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Chargers, Joey Bosa reach record extension, 2020 Breakout Defenses (Football 7/30)

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Chargers, Joey Bosa reach record extension, 2020 Breakout Defenses (Football 7/30)

"What's up everybody welcome to the fix podcast guess sports daily NFL podcast I'm Brinson I'm your host in his Thursday July. Thirtieth we're getting closer to football happening. We think. It looks like it's going to happen and to talk about some defenses some break out defenses the man who I believe has correctly nailed multiple breakout defenses over the last few years Brian McFadden be Mac. What's going on buddy was doing I'm doing great. We let's see two years ago. You had the bears before they even traded for Khalil Mack. I don't remember who you had last year but I want to see him as the titans at Titans. Yes or maybe even the steelers I don't know. Well, you know everybody every picking the steelers. But I I was I was really hyped about the titans defense. I'll give the same production the bears defense. GIG was two years ago. But still it was still a real good unit. Yes sir. Yeah, and by the way. 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Wednesday night, Tuesday night excuse me the chargers announced that they were signing Joey Bosa to a huge contract extension five-year extension worth a hundred and thirty, five, million with one, hundred, two, million dollars guaranteed. By the way we'll talk breakout defenses after post but the thing with posts, it'd be Mac. He reported to camp to the charges at like eight PM, which was like he had five minutes to go before he was gonNA lose crude season, which tells you that this negotiation probably came down to the last minute and finally Joey were. We got it done. You can go to camp don't you hoes yourself over in the setup they can find you you can lose cruces and etcetera etcetera go let's get the camp you got paid and. This is kind of an easy contract for me. I'll give Joey Bosa whatever he wants because I think he's one of the five best defensive players and football. Yeah financially, it makes a lot of sense as well. the highest paid player on that team from last year is no longer there in Philip Rivers, you'll beloved NC NC state wolfpack player from a player. Remember it. He's no longer there. He's an Indianapolis you didn't Pay Melvin Gordon. So clearly, the funds were available to be able to give. Joy this big big deal deserving deal. I mean what? Just a week ago we saw myles Garrett, you know reset the defense of market financially. With twenty getting twenty, five, million per year they were able to top that adding two more millions of joy boasts he's getting twenty, seven million dollars per year. That's the premium position because of what they do they chase down the most expensive physician in the National Football League in the quarterback position right? We we know how important quarterbacks are especially in that division. The is West they're chasing the best that it's in the League right now, twice a year they see him impact mahomes you can't put pressure on these quarterbacks especially a guy like Pat Mahomes you said no chance. So everything about this deal made sense from the football standpoint financial standpoint as well. Yeah it looked like so guaranteed signing and I'm using these numbers seventy, eight, seventy, eight, point, seventy, eight, even million dollars dollars's fully guaranteed signing. Are you surprised at a team like the chargers who I mean the moving to a new stadium but they're sort of desperate to sell tickets they don't have a ton of fan a big fan base out in Los Angeles because they just recently left from San Diego they just still up rivers are going all in on tyrod Taylor and then of course Justin Herbert after that. Are you surprised in the middle of a pandemic? They're willing to fully guarantee seventy eight million dollars to Joey Bosa. Now. It makes sense it makes sense. So I don't know exactly what Myles Garrett got to sign I. Think he got like Ryan Speaker million fifty million. Signing sign. Yeah. So what they needed to do was to make joey in his camp. Comfortable they needed to trump everything that myles Garrett just did with his his contract negotiations with the browns and they were able to do so. So yes, they basically went over myles Garrett total contract they went over myles Garrett guaranteed contracts to went over his guaranteed at signing contract. It makes is they're not really paying a lot of big players. Keen, Allen is getting paid pretty well he's. Up He's up in a year like. Is Your whose contracts are coming up enjoy both is twenty five years old and one of the best pass rushers in the league already. Look at the Myles Garrett deal and you have to think that myles Garrett people knew that Botha was working a deal to. Like the browns or the Browns knew that Joey Bosa was going to get a contractor. So if the browns wait and wait it out Garrett and Joey Bosa signs deal Myles, Garrett is going to want more than what Joey Bosa got. Now all of a sudden the myles Garrett deal to me looks like it makes a lot more sense in terms of how it's structured in what they gave him because they knew this Bosa deal is coming down the pipe and they wanted to lock him up before. because. Then you go to the season Myles, Garrett. I'm looking to play this year and then I'm GONNA demand way more at least more than what Joey Bosa got. So I think the Gary this is a the browns win on this deal because if they wait gets more than both a and vice versa I think, right? Yeah. It's always a nice man up mentality. Especially, if you consider the elite player and both players are considered top tier guys in my in my opinion that position I think this was very huge for the browns to do. As well, because I don't I can't remember the last first round selection the browns were able to lock up. Maybe Brady Right. About that about. All the number one selects a select the players the browns have dragged overlaps for years before myles. Garrett. Contract with that set organization. Okay. So thinking about that I know I I'm trying to think of the last one was two thousand and nineteen other than have one wouldn't be eligible anyway eighteen Baker Mayfield award. They are they eligible. There's always next season because. Off Season. Two thousand seventeen Korey Coleman nope. No. Any Shelton? nope not Yogurt Johnny L. Nope. NOPE Arkadiusz Mingo. Note trail in Brandon Weeden no bill Taylor know. Haden get a contract from the browns. He did. He did he did right. So two, thousand and ten. Was the last time the BROWNS had A. First Round pick make it to their second contracting before that they had a Mac and Oh, nine and Joe Thomas in seven Brady Quinn was also. A you know what you need. Think about this that as well a lot of it raise you mentioned. A lot of names you mentioned we'll didn't even get a chance to fulfill that rookie contract. Were caught trading. Yeah. Yeah. Cut or traded. That's how that's how you being terrible for for like ten years in Saugus. Recipe to be bad. That's how you'd be bad. Yeah. All right. That's that is fantastic stat. The charges have been better at it. So Joey Bosa drafted he was drafted. Third. Overall man. Ramsey four. Zeke five is that right? Or is it the other way around? Anyway? When are we? Third. Overall in the two thousand and sixteen NFL draft when the charges were still in San Diego has forty sacks in four years has only hadn't played. Only played two full seasons he held out his first rookie year waiting for money and then suffered injuries in two, thousand, eighteen. But man when he's healthy twelve and a half and eleven and a half sacks tons of quarterback hits thirty, one last year eighteen tackles for loss last year sixty, seven total tackles at Fort Campbell. He's he's a he's a pure pass rusher and I remember coming out of the draft coming into the draft and coming out of college higher state. People sort of complained Joey Bosa might've might. He's got a very high floor but I don't know if he's got a high ceiling. That's crazy talk like this guy is still just scratching the surface of what he can do like I think he and Myles. Garrett both fully capable of putting together a defensive player of the year campaign in twenty twenty. If we get a full season and if that happens in this contract is not gonNa look like a steal but it's GonNa. Look like a really good value and I think that the chargers are smart to go ahead and pay the now and Bosa. I would guess probably willing to hold out heading into fifth year option. He's pretty that whole families like very stubborn about contracts. And they know they're worth right now you had all the leverage don't come into his fifth year clearly you know he's a top tier player at his position plays a premium position in like I said when you moved on from Philip Rivers was getting twenty plus million per per year. The funds were available. The funds were available. So I love their defense I think one thing that I hope. We can see from the La chargers this year will. Is for them to be able to make it out of camp healthy I mean it seems like every year they have in unpredictable injuries to key player going into the season. Zero James last year the year before that I think it was hunter Henry they have been so unlucky when it comes to going into the season healthy. So they gotta find a way. Mitch or revamp the training staff and I don't want crap on a doctor who works for a team but like. Like I will I'll bet you any amount of money that the redskins have less injuries this year than they have the last five years because they totally redid their training staff. Now this is a weird weird year. Maybe that's a bad. But I would think that if the chargers reported their training staff, they would be Egypt they just always hurt always. Hurt going into? season. Crazy and that's why we've seen so many slow stars from the charter can't because a long time going through the they're missing a key player. So defensively, that's what they're going. They had on another reason why this deal with Joey Bosa sense we don't know exactly. How, the office will look tyrod Taylor I expect him to be the week one starter you know but the facilities what they will have to hang their hat on being able to have a guy like Joey Bosa don't forget about Melvin Ingram Right Melvin Adrian does a great job getting to the quarterback they also added Limbaugh Joseph I. Love at signing. That's a huge signing. He's he's a every down type of defensive. Tackle he's of quality ones suffer. They had issues stopping the run over the last few years in the defense saw I. Love that signing as well. Because this is going to be the key for that team to be successful, and they've done a great job going into this season signing up their best player. Could the chargers be breakout defense who? Called the tease keys be back right. We'll tell you after the break. We all have been craving, the return of sports. Well, football season is getting closer and closer. So fantasy drafts are getting closer and closer you need your prep, you need your breakouts. Do you want your daily fantasy football talking best analysts in the business check out our fantasy football today podcast fantasy football today is in its eleventh year we've been helping listeners dominate their leagues for more than a decade. You'll laugh you'll learn. 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So for instance, we don't WanNa pick the forty niners the four dollars breakout team last year because they figured you'd Ford but you can't pick the four nine patriots I don't think you pick the steelers are the bill withers the Ravens Ravens Yeah Maybe I I think I think the chargers could I think chargers could potentially be the best defensive football and if that were to happen, it would be a breakout but they're just a top defense I don't think that would qualify as a breakout. I agree I agree I like the charges I think they will be better than what they were last year especially the healthy I remember they didn't have during James to solve the season off last. So that was a big big. BIG MINUS when it comes to production now they added Limbaugh Joseph his junior. So I like the charges to have a real nice stout defence but I'm not quite ready to put them in that category to be my breakout candidate I. I will take the chargers just to finish the segway, I will take the chargers. As a breakout candidate because I think that when you look at what they have put together with his team and you mentioned James That's that's critical like losing derwin James last year at the beginning of the season. Completely, disrupted what they wanted to do and. The defense is built around Derwin James that's data Jeremiah of of NFL media said, he thinks if you put all the safeties everything safety in the NFL on a draft that Dermot James will be the number one guy on the board for all thirty two teams. That's a that's a pretty bold statement and I guess the main guys GonNa Disagree here. But I with Dj that one like I think I think when you look at during James what he's able so I guess there was it s you guys are tough for you here. What are you? What do you make I? It's not so for me I seen during James as a true freshman down football field documents. She was. Absolutely ridiculous like he did. He did all he could play everywhere he if you lined him up at defensive end. For. The entire season he'd twelve sacks. I had a conversation with Mike Tomlin Apple Derwin. James. Rick Freshman season and I was in Pittsburgh he basically said d'oro will play another down and he should be a top ten pick. And he and he felt that draft somehow he got. How crazy thing one thing that I love about Derwin in that argument that statement you said Daniel Jeremiah Jeremiah came out with as far as grouping all the safety position all the Satan's right the thing that I love about. Derwin. He is a dog. He is the guy you want to go into war fight with your coming out on top with him. He loves the game. Secondly, he loves the game like no other. He's passionate about the game and his effort he plays with a relentless style and it doesn't matter where you line them up on the football field. He is going to make plays in. He is so smart he is a savvy player so he has a brother shoulder game, right? athletically he's one of the he's a freak. AETNA say position. And he's a guy that has that. That old man Mike Tyson mentality I'm walking in wearing I'm not saying anything I'm putting you in the mouth. Everybody's GonNa plan until they get punched in the mouth. So his rookie season. He had one hundred and five total tackles three and a half sacks six quarterback hits thirteen passes defense three interceptions, and somehow didn't force a fumble but I mean like the guy he's he packs the stats sheet and he does it in a way that impacts the game. So when I look at this chargers defense and the reason I think they could be the best defense in football. So you lock Joey Bosa, there's no concerns about him holding out and missing time because he wants a new deal he's locked in you get sixteen games from him. That's huge. Melvin Ingram as you point out across across. The other way he's in a contract year. So I think you'll see a motivated Melvin Ingram rolling in two thousand twenty because he wants to get paid and it's his last bite at the apple probably at thirty one to get a a legitimate legitimate contract on the interior I the limbaugh. Joseph a huge ad because it takes the pressure off of last year's first-round pick Jerry tillery in two thousand and eighteen third pick Justin Jones they don't have to be the guy in the middle now you have but you have nice rotation of three guys that you can bring in there to try and Take Soak bodies, and get single. Single team for for both in Ingram. In the Secondary Madeira and we talked about at length like he's just a monster and you have Casey Hayward who ended up being a steal of assigning by Tom Alaska free agency Chris Harris got free. Agency this year it'd be motivated and you have desmond king who can rotate around play nickel and can play safety. Harris can play safety like there's a lot of malleability in that secondary and then adding Kenneth Murray and they give a lot to trade up to get him in the first round but now you have A. True Stud Middle Linebacker. That is what the defense missed the last few years and they stay healthy. Be Matt. I really think that they have enough talent every level to be dominant dominant defense. I don't disagree with you I. Don't disagree with you because they have number. Their best argument is they can get out the past right and I can tell you this much one name that you I'm glad you mentioned his name if tillery can just find the light just a little bit if he could just he's a massive individual. claimed, the life. And also their plane a legit for three skiing this year. So these guys are putting the hand in dirt and their dignity cleats in the turf and the firing off. So that's the first element you needs to be able to have you put pressure on these quarterbacks. Secondly, can you cover? Guys in the back in that could cover the front in the first level guys in the third level guys work hand in hand they put pressure on the quarterback got guys that can cover then secondly, the second level guys I think that's the biggest question mark I have with the chargers defense the second level guys, which is the backers, the backers. Kenneth Murray is adult kids Kenneth Murray Manny in Oklahoma all he did was tackle you fly he flew around you always number nine in a highlight or around the football he loves the game as well. So I'm right there with you. I think the charges man I just I want to see him the healthy I just want to see the chargers getting out of camp. Healthy They can. They're going to come they WANNA raise a lot of eyebrows not just in the division of the National Football Three, hundred, twenty, five total tackles for Kenneth. Murray. Thirty six and a half tackles for loss over his three years at Oklahoma nine and a half sacks to like he's. Little more versatile may remember you're talking the Turtle Games was forty Turtle Games I mean this guy you're tackle machine. If they're healthy I, I really think they have a chance to be the top defensive football but I don't Wanna I don't WanNa. act like it's a huge breakout because I think the expectation for this team should be a top ten diva. Bottom half lead defense disastrous season. You've got some teams a team in the same division actually that. Be a breakout and the Denver broncos is this is this your twenty twenty bears pick like the? Team makes it hugely. Okay, my twenty, twenty bears fake in. Will represent his two years ago. I picked the bears have a breakout year before they even. Trade for clear Mac and we knew and we saw how that twenty eighteen season came to like Chicago but. The Denver Broncos, they're my number one breakout. Very, same same same guy coordinating the defenses the Air Vic Fangio of course, the head coach but he's still a hand in hand with the defense and let me start with this. The reason why I think the rock was will have a huge breakout defensive year. Is When you look at how they finished the season last year, they played some of their best football in their final six ballgames led by von Miller in that six game stretch I think he had four sets so they finally. Understood what was expected of them as defense played in a new system, a new style of play being able to get the chemistry together they finished the season playing real good for off. Secondly I think that momentum will carry into this season, but when you also add a healthy Radley chump. pair him up with von Miller people sleeping von Miller. He can still dominate a ballgame. He's still dominated a season but now he has the ultimate healthy Robin von Miller is Batman. Trump is robin and those guys go hand in hand. So talking about the first element used to have a successful defense, can you put pressure on the quarterback? Those guys can't get it done those who guys can arguably the best dual of pass Russia's in the national football? League This would you rather have von Miller and Brett just for twenty twenty will say von Miller and Bradley Chubb or Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram. I would say that it's Better Pass rushing do alcoholic missing. The San Francisco got both in Florida you wearing. Who that's a tough right there who raised twenty twenty I'd probably go Bosa and Ingram, but I wouldn't so. Jobs. Coming off the ACL and bounty. I think you're right like von Miller Ryan. Wilson Dennis Top ten pass rushing pass rusher list. I think von Miller. was. Enough. Yeah. He did I tried to jump on. Ryan about this. You destroyed people those. Comeback, but I think like I think. This is a good chance at vons in his last year with the broncos. If he doesn't have a great season because his the way that his contracts sets up, he has two years left get out of it after this year. So I think he's going to be really motivated to come out and have a big season. Of course you just saw what? Bosa and Myles Garrett got so you know going to be motivated so. And I think I based on. What happened with Chubb last year I think I I second that with you will I think I would take that dual out in la La land with the chargers but these guys are not a pushover at all right job in von Miller and then secondly being able to add they basically gave. The Tennessee Titans. A snickers. Bar. Choir Derail Casey who might be? Defensive Player. In. Years but he oh. That's what Mike how, who, who, who, okay. That deal for tendency to get what they got in return to ship Durell Casey Zipper who's going to be a huge addition as well. Similar. The thing I love about your team team the similarities are there right. Joseph in the middle who can make those pass rushers even better because they three US bodies. So durell Casey's added to the forefront on that front, which will be huge expression for guys like Ryan Miller and Chop and then you get the secondary. List. Created for peanuts to. It's crazy AJ. Bouvier you add he's going to be motivated. He Still GonNa play Kareem Jackson has really excelled at the safety position is Yada talented guy I think having a veteran presidents opposite him aid you can help him but I really love Justin Simmons. And Simmons King go he king go I mean he is an outstanding the finger. He's a cover guys not like he's a box guy he can do it all and he's been able to do over the last three years. I just don't know why they didn't go out and give him a nice big time contract but you better believe he's more motivated than ever because they tag. So he's GonNa put up numbers and one of the. unsung heroes for this team potentially. Bryce. Callahan, that's what I was. Looking I don't. He get hurt he got hurt but. He never plants yet he? Like. So, in the FANGIO system, but obviously, you want to have pass rushers and passer key but like the safety and the nickel position feel like they are really important for how Fangio wants to operate and Callahan was Kelly was his guy in Chicago. wicker basically. Yeah. Yeah. He brought him over from Chicago paid them real nicely as a nickel God godwit just. Unlucky when it came to the injury standpoint. So he could be a unsung hero for their defense, but I love I love their defense. You know in the half the concerns about the second level guy, the backers, the inside interior backers. But outside of that man because you've got guys like von Miller who's motivated Bradley Chubb and we saw what kind of have those guys did 'cause when they rotate right so. Crazy last year I think it was like five games in the broncos didn't four games in the bunkers didn't have a single sack and it was just sort of your thing that happened you get onto the fastest start you get used to system in year to year two is key I think as well like you. You don't just pick up a total wholesale defensive. FANGIO's overnight right I take it took time. It s what you remember. The first thing I said about this deep height, the final six ball games where you really started to see things show up and I think that momentum in knowing and understanding what they're supposed to do what Kerry, into this season especially with high abnormal this season has been. So that's my number one breakout defense. Number two, I, agree with you I. Agree with you completely that. There are a lot. Maybe the schemes are different Denver in sit in Los Angeles the chargers just the setup like you have questions about the linebacker spot up but the. Secondary's loaded though I mean. I it's it's clear that those two teams have a lot of interest in trying to slow down the Kansas City chiefs as as they should. Right. As they. Should. Be. Relevant you've got to be relevant division absolutely. So you're number two breakout defense. Let's go to Indianapolis. for multiple reasons number one, let's start off with the personnel and the defence. especially with you know, they had what they have on the Front member I number one requirement for potential good defenses candidate put pressure on the quarterback right that left side of that defense the line is going to be hail. DEFOREST buckner. Justin Houston. Just, Houston man kids will go right and you add the forest buttons so that for that forefront of that flint, they will make everybody else better I love that addition adding the buttons of the forefront they gave what a first round of for him, which makes sense because clearly. All to a forty niners. Price for doing business for getting deforest buckner. Exactly. Exactly. So that makes sense. There is limit man listen. He does everything right? Everything second quarterback creating turnovers, anti He's just a football players very instinctive. He's still continue to grow and develop these rates, hit his peak years not that he's GonNa huge once again, especially if he's healthy and coming off Nova. Darius Leonard, I love this like he didn't I guess he made the pro bowl last year but he had a down season one, hundred, twenty one tackles five sacks, seven pass defense two forced fumbles, five interceptions, and he did that in other games like that was a gown. For. Good. People keep sleeping linnet they slept on his rookie year. Then they say, well, he had a down year those numbers you just read off to us. That's a great year. People keep sleeping on various little like he's very comfortable mattress. No, he's not A. His uncomfortable sleep on that match. Stop Sleeping on ill and a guy like Darius Leonard to. You go to South Carolina State. The culture criticized and they took him in the second round thirty six overall related so. You take a South Carolina, state linebacker thirty, six dollars kind of crazy. The. Guy's always going to have a chip on his shoulder like I think always a Carolina State and play your whole college career there. You never forget the fact that you never like he didn't get. One big time recruit obviously because he went to South Carolina, state's chip is going to be there if you really sixteen games should be an all defensive player of the year candidate. Let's it. I'm part of multiple fantasy leaves just like you are and there's a league that requires you to get a date defensive specialist. Guy I go get almost every year because he put up numbers, you know what? I mean based on the numbers you just read up to us and Anthony Walker. Kicking go as well. He's a great great connell partner, for Darius, Leonard at the linebacker position for that team. so He's attacking machine. He's got that loves the game of Football. No one is really talking about his name, but he played a big time especially in the absence of winning when he was injured last year the named I WANNA see show up for this defense especially in the in the secondary will cooker me cooker. Cooking, to go his rookie year, I mean we thought well, he could be the next great safety. Ed Reed injuries, I mean injuries hampered him never kind of got back into that flow of how he was playing his rookie year. This has to be the year. For Jordan brand clear me cook it's Taibbi on the show up is show out throughout the entire year. Give us the same flashes you show your rookie campaign and I think he was solidify that different expectations I have for them as secularly outside of the roster rottweiler really about the difference. that. Division right in their division, the AFC south is not like they're pulling against a lot of explosive offenses. You Got Jacksonville rebuilding. You Got Tennessee Derrick Henry. You Got Houston the Shawn Watson Bass Harvey a Deandre Hopkins to. That's probably the closest thing to an explosive like office in their division based on the personalities in the DNA of the other offices I, mentioned and their lives and opportunity for this defense the put up major numbers in the stat sheet throughout the season because those officers they will see twice a year. Yeah I would I think the and I don't WanNa get too hyped up on the colts because. You know the fell Philip rivers stinky like now. You have you have a soft spot field rivers his entire playing career sued everybody rally was chargers Fan, and now everybody rally is a colts fan 'cause he's. Not, really into the panthers we're just GONNA. Why don't you look over be right shoulder what does that behind you? Your right? Yeah. My ratio is yes giant stated. No, I mean look. Somewhere, in fact. There's a Philip rivers plush toy. You gotta get the new one. You gotta get. My wife got me that for. For Christmas one year my birthday one year. But like I think when and the other thing too about this call seem that people are forgetting is that with their offensive line with Clinton Nelson empty because some Brain Smith. Philip rivers comes in they're not gonNA try to run this high octane offense in my opinion needs to it'll be a run heavy team, the draft Jonathan Tailoring the second round Marlin Mac, and the finally deal nine hines going to catch a bunch of short passes. I think and if you do that, you can put your defense in an advantageous position the Matt Hebrew by the way. Came over from Dallas Win Josh mcdaniels was hired by the colts. He was going to be Josh mcdaniels DC Bonito's loved him and mcdaniels bailed. Could've left and he decided to stick it out and he stayed in he stayed in India and he's been the court now I think three years because that's a long. Yeah three years and this defense has just gotten. He's made a lot with with kind of a little like some younger pieces and some he's gotten the most unlimited obviously but I think that addition of deforest buckner like now you could just see this defense just take off and just in Houston maybe has a rejuvenated season. You'd like to see a little bit more off the edge I, think in terms of pass rushers to to consider this A. Like an elite defense but I think it has a sleeper chance of making a leap because there's elite talent at every level. In a year ago. He didn't play bad football I. Think they finished what number sixteenth and total yards allow, which is not bad. Originally Defense I would say they have a better roster coming into this season than what they did last year with that unit finish. Sixteen. So for me, it's not when I say my expectation, the coast I'm not expecting them to be top three, top five unit but I think they can get in that top ten. You know what? I mean they could potentially be right outside the top you. No I think they have a chance to be tough I. think it would be unlikely their top five. This is super bowl contender. I'll tell you that much. But to your point, see guys like bobby ochre Ricky, who's now in his second year rock n now in his second year. At Xavier Roads and roads wasn't good last year we don't need to sugar coat it, but he is he is a pro bowl. Caliber player and if you can get back to playing the way he played early on in. MINNESOTA. Car. Career Willis at is a second year player. There's a lot of young talent on this Russell which. Leads you to believe that maybe a breakout could come. I was sort of look at the teams in see who else would really qualify I. didn't I didn't honestly see A. Like a ton of other I, love three picks we've got here. With the buccaneers count as a sleeper who can take a leap forward. I mean. I think with Tampa. They did well, last year was style run run defrays. So. They were like a lead. It's up in the top number one gives the wrong but. The concern I have with Tampa yes. They were terrible against the past last year they could be a bit better but playing against drew brees Matt Ryan twice a year and you struggle against the past last year might not give you an opportunity to jump in that top twelve, top ten top five range you talk about some of the other defense that we mentioned. To report, I gotTA I. GotTa sleeper for a top ten defense top. Ten Defense I think is. The Philadelphia Eagles. They had deriously in the off season. Nickell Robey Coleman. So, now you're secondary is audibly better. Show has to be better off. And I think if you get a full breakout season from Derek, Barnett which is sort of like well coker. Our they drafted maybe even back to back it was it was. It was those two marshon lattimore whatever everybody the wide receivers in the running backs and that two thousand, seventeen drafts and lattimore. Barnett and me cooker all fell down to these teams. Value or net is due for big breakout season. They have me Jackson John Hargrave and Fletcher Clock Fletcher Cox on the Interior in India Brain Graham Josh Sweat sweats of Fourth Round pick. Your Sake I like I think there's a lot there that could kind of create a defensive line that pops the way it did when that super bowl in two, thousand seventeen and if they are that good upfront on defense, then that secondary in my opinion, we'll be automatically better. So I sort of a sleeper they've been there before but the formula is there for them to replicate the success that we saw previously and another one within a division. I just thought about what about Washington only. Real. With with just the past Russia's alone right. So Ria has Russia's I mean they they have the depth I mean clearly it's going to be a big plus for that defense enough you'll be. Added Fuller. Get can get full of back. So I think that's a deep was could be one of you reckon with as well. That's a good point and Ron Rivera defense actually surprisingly was not twenty-seventh. When he got to Carolina. Did interest wasn't that good the gate, but they didn't exactly have. A Honda players. If they were Charles Johnson was their head Greg Hardy should be they. They had they had some pressure on trump but not not in the way that Washington does Washington it has a stacked. Front with. San Francisco East. That's exactly that's a good point. East but you could see you could see them kind of break out your mantra sweat last year two, thousand, two last year's first round pick Doron pay two thousand eighteen first-round pick Jon Allen two thousand seventeen first round pick chase young. So on your defensive line you or consecutive years of sweat wait. For a first round picks, I invested players and. We Count Ryan Kerrigan WHO's a first round pick in two thousand eleven, which is crazy and then Matt. Is Who's been great for the fifth round pick in two, thousand, sixteen. So. If that group can get pressure yet with Landon Collins and Kendall, fuller on the back end Thomas Davis older but he knows the system and that'll be that'll be easy transition. Yeah I think that's a great call for. Be a top ten defense. More warm down. There they just was so bad last year I think they had no other choice but to improve but I think there will be. A pretty good defense ripe. On the cards Oh. Yeah. I like that call to Arizona. I mean not they were bad last year but I tell you what? Tell Jones has been doing the great. Is this a good time to promote any any future? Evers or is that? Wraps. I think he's still but. is coming so it's come to so would I look out for builder got? No question big time announce but we'll. WHO's been more productive than Channel Jones the last two years he doesn't get the law that he should for the stats he puts up. So you look you look at the cardinals. Chandler Jones. And they added I think this is big for channel chance to you add Jordan Phillips Co repeating as. Free Agency. Now, not like huge signings but this essential, Steve Time to get sort of a veteran and you get the most out of them on the defensive side of the ball and you can see again you lock up some blockers are going to slow down the Ron. You're GonNa let Chandler Jones a cut loose off the edge they get as as sevens with the first round pick people were worried that he'll be Buchanan two point or something I don't think so. Versatile. He's GonNa move around. Campbell Jordan Hicks, they added that look Campbell two. Weeks. Bowl. Yeah. Plays a real good football as you also. Yeah. Yeah. He Buddha Baker environmental with could think you take a step forward in his second year Buddha Baker Bekker's. Baker it reminds me of Bob Centers. He might not be as explosive explosive as Bob Sanders our way he tackles. The physical nature he plays with reminds me a lot of Bob Sends. That's I like pet I mean that's a Two Great. These four total I one of the table and then the eagles. I like these Washington in Arizona deep sleepers because they'd sleepers and the thing is if either one of these in this weird season with now, we had an extra playoff spot i. mean if either one of these guys have, we have a second year quarterbacks like if either these defenses take a leap forward and the quarterback takes a small step forward. I. Mean Washington make a point I. Know Nobody thinks Washington can be a playoff team, but it's not impossible. It's not impossible. It's in that division. In that division, that's the thing that division be wide open outside of. You. Know who knows what would happen with thousands? Struggles to adapt in Philadelphia didn't solve the White House of cornerback problems. Washington would have an easier task in the division then Arizona. has a better makeup on the office right now agreed you know what I mean they have better. They have a better. Offense on paper, but it's going to be a fight weekend and we got in the NFC west. I can't wait to see but kinda remain Murray and I I really I was hyped about high late last year on I think this year adding the Andre Hopkins in some of the other pieces they added man valve is like just get a tag better off is going to be hot powered as well. So but yeah, I think. I think Washington's defense in Arizona defense could could could be in route to do some real good things right. So sleepers should be taught half the league maybe ten and the Denver Indianapolis. We think take her or Brian McFadden at be Mac underscore sports off on twitter watch on CBS sports HQ, and again as we tease on the lookout for future endeavors feedback, it's always fun to chat with Buddy. Yes. Thank you say. Hey. Friends I met Alfred I'm Chris Hainer together were the Russell buddies a podcast going into the fun parts of professional wrestling. 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The Lightning Round Podcast #201: The podcasts greatest hits

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The Lightning Round Podcast #201: The podcasts greatest hits

"Hey everybody garrisons to hear lighting around. podcast we're doing a special episode today kind of a bonus episode because last week we did the two hundred episodes soad's we did it live. We had some issues but still we got through it. That is out so if you WANNA listen to that you can. We did that live together but today we're going to be doing a best of lightning round podcast now. A lot of people during leading up to the week and a couple of days after her episode two hundred people were getting nostalgic and talking about their favorite episodes their favorite bits. That have happened how they've been here from the beginning. All the fun stuff that we've done here on the lightning round. PODCAST and I thought it would be nice to re air. Our best of line around podcasts. which we did for episode one hundred There's a Lotta great bits here. A lot of things that people were talking about and I thought why not just rare it and everybody can listen to it and enjoy it again Dan. This is the greatest hits of the line round podcast. A lot has happened since episode. One hundred obviously and a lot of great bits but There's a lot of good stuff in this so I just thought as a bonus episode before we wrap up the game against the chiefs water throw an extra episode out and have you guys enjoy it so this is it episode episode two. Oh one this is the best of the lightning round podcast throughout the show. Today we're showcasing some of the best moments of one hundred episodes lightning round podcast. This one is from our Christmas special entitled the indeed who stole Christmas every boy and girl in San Diego like Christmas alive but one owner who lived in La Hoya did not dean spanos hated the fans the whole football season. Now please don't ask why no one quite knows the reason it could be. Because his head wasn't screwed on just right it could be perhaps apps that he and his sons weren't all that bright but I think that the most likely reason of all may have been that. His Wallet was two sizes too small. Whatever the reason his account or is Ken? He stood there on Christmas Eve not knowing how to win staring out from his office with sad sour frown. Seeing all the charters charters fans. Happy Mingling around town. What's with all league? He's snarled with a sneer. He detested every single. Bit Of this holiday. Cheer Tomorrow Is Christmas. How can I make it less pleasant than he growled thinking of giving the worst Christmas present? I won't make a decision and keep the fans second guessing for tomorrow. He thought everyone in San Diego would be stressing. Why for fifty five years? I've put up with this town now. I must stop this chargers fans from carrying but how he got an idea a terrible idea. Dean got a painfully terrible idea. I know just what to do. ooh Dean bubble that his throat and he penned his idea for getting the chargers fans goat and he chuckled and collect. What a sneaky team trick? They'll never forgive me. Ah Look like such a Dick. All we need is a single reporter to us and it will all come together. After the chargers lose quickly he found a desperate aspro local hack instead of pine a motion to stab fans in the back he planted story about leaning towards. La Knowing chargers fans will wake up up to the news the next day. Not only that Dean wanted to throw in rebranding hoping no bulls fan would be left standing. He decided to go for the big knockout punch punch and do the one thing that would make every fan lose their lunch. He then yelled. I know how to ruin Christmas forever. Dean began to light up. He thought he was clever. I've I've got it. He exclaimed much to his like. Here's a four year extension for milk. Joe Spike you finally burnt it to the ground once and for all now. There's no reason and for them to follow football. Christmas morning has come the city glowing. Everyone feels the holiday. Cheer even though it's not snowing the kids are all excited. Did opening the last gift Dean sits alone waiting for the emotional shift. It's about that time. Let's hear them grieve. They're finding out now that the team gene just made leave on Christmas morning. I know just what they'll do. Their mouths will hang open a minute or two then the boys and girls of San Diego. Dago will all cry boo. That's annoys die simply must here so he paused and dean put a hand to his ear but there were no tears. Here's of fear and those screams of terror. He opened his computer embarked. This must be an error. He started his monitor and dean popped. His eyes vinnie shook quote. He saw was a shocking surprise. There was no backlash on this Christmas. AM The city wasn't on fire. The streets were filled with mayhem. Every San Diegan was happy. Just enjoying the holiday celebrating Christmas in their own special way. What he hadn't realized was the people of this beach town had been beaten up for years ears and had once worn a frown but today was Christmas? And at this point no one cared. This was the news that everyone had all prepared and dean stared blankly mind line. Moving real slow stood puzzling and puzzling. How could it be so I said I was moving? I would change the name even extended McCoy that lame in brain and he puzzled three hours. Till's puzzle with Sore Than Dean Thought of something he hadn't thought before maybe Christmas isn't about the final score for Christmas. Perhaps a little bit more people only care about players the memories. Maybe it's not about the name. Maybe it's not all about me and what happened then. Well in San Diego they say that Dean Spanos finally realized the fans one that day. The most weren't there to say they were witness legacy has it. Every chargers fans still had I know after what's unfolded. That bid is a little hard to swallow to follow that up. Here we are unloading deservingly. So on the SPANOS. What does family and their complete incompetence Philip rivers and Antonio Gates don't deserve this the music No no not that one. Play the music it. It must be nice to bore into a real estate empire and handed the keys right. NFL Franchise without earning. A nickel the spoils that came along with. It must be nice knowing you can screw up everything you touch is an NFL owner. Waste the careers of several hall of famers never have to worry about losing a dime or being held accountable for the people saying ego. Have dance around this topic for years for the time has finally finally come to stop beating around the Bush. Dean spanos is incompetent. It may seem harsh. But what else do you call a man who butchers nearly every football and business decision which he's faced rivers and gates don't deserve to be chained to an inept owner like Dean spanos. Frankly none of the players this faith but the fact that Philip rivers and Antonio Gates must suffer through it and the twilight of their careers is downright criminal. This man can't get anything right. Not even the most basic decisions refused to settle petty differences between Jason and Marty Schottenheimer. After fourteen into season he replaced Schottenheimer Turner. He waited two years too long to fire nor orb and now seems destined away the year too long to fire Mike McCoy and that says nothing of how he handled the relocation lesson two thousand fifteen not only did he wind about not being the stadium. Deal done in San Diego during the darkest political periods in history of our city. But he actually planned to build a new stadium in Carson on a dumpsite and share it with the raiders. All while hiding behind Mark Fabiani who should by the way Ba- fire the second dean announced the team would be seeking solution. San Diego what you've failed to realize is it. No one likes you not the politicians stonewall last year not the loyal fans. You seem intent on alienating every chance you get not the local media certainly not the NFL owners you were so convinced with hand you Carson on a silver platter. Well they may think you're a nice guy. But they clearly don't trust you as operator. Ironically Dean. Your franchise quarterback is quote a multiple times. He has to laugh to keep from crying as charger. Fans we echo river sentiment because every player who's ever Jermaine impact on the city is chased town or city's heroes impact. Our community are shown the door while you sit atop you're laughing stock of a franchise force former former charters outlook junior CEO Dany Tomlinson Rodney Harrison. Drew Brees Eric. Weddell Vincent Jackson Louise's Vasquez Darren sproles and Michael Turn. Don't even get me started on. The joy voted the bottle. Only deemed could possibly butcher contract negotiations with the number three overall. Pick when the length in value of the contract is predetermined he can claim to his offset president. All he wants the bottom line is he's chief and petty and saw more value and strong arming first round. Pick in getting him into camp. How's that working out for you? Dean supervise Antonio case don't deserves. They don't deserve a ham. Fisted owner like Dean in spanos would put his children in key positions of the chargers franchise rather than higher actual employees who have football experience seeing John Spanos simply flee growing up around. A football team does not make qualified to work as a football executive anymore than watching movies makes me film director or having a checking account makes me qualified qualified to run a bank. Tell me how John spanos coming straight out of college graduating with a degree in business give him any qualifications to become an NFL scout. Also how does a father other holders son accountable when he repeatedly fails at his job. The answer is simple he promotes. What motivation is there for John? Spin has to perfect his craft when his father other repeatedly ignores his shortcomings and continues to move up the corporate ladder as chief. Justice is failures in the draft. Aren't enough he's also responsible for hiring. Mike McCoy talk to lessen. In fact John spanos hired Ron Woolfe to help with his last coaching search and ultimately decided to hire McCoy against wolves recommendation because John Liked Mike. We'll Ron woolfe recommended. Bruce Arians the chargers have GM that waste their future by giving draft picks. Treat up for the wrong guys to Celescu is traded up for inside linebacker. Anti Tayo who hasn't played a full season in his career and is currently replaced by better rookie. Fifth Round Pick. He Trades for Virginia. Talk Show who is currently the third outside linebacker on the depth chart again behind a fifth round. Pick chargers traded up for Melvin Gordon. Giving up more picks for a running back who didn't score a single touchdown and his rookie season. How about wasting draft picks on guys like Dj fluker over star to layer De'andre Hopkins trading up for Anti anti-takeover Kwan? Short or lady on bell wasting a draft. Pick on Steve Williams. WHO's not even on the team anymore? Trading up for Jerry. Talk to you over. Jarvis Landry or Allen Robinson choosing Chris Watt over Dante Moncrieff. John Brown wasting draft picks on marrying Bryson Tevin wreaths. Who didn't even make camp training? Melvin Gordon over. Marcus Peter's or choosing Craig Meager over Henry Anderson and David Johnson how to US goes free agent signings gems like Derek Cox Donald Butler Jacoby Jones Donald Brown stevie Johnson Jimmy Wilson Trevor Robinson. Dwight Lowery Orlando Franklin Glenn so tell us goes draft strategies have paid off his free agent. Signings haven't paid off and the chargers are officially trending in the wrong direction. And a Mike McCoy is still the head coach. Mike McCoy is turned. The San Diego chargers in a monumental failures McCoy has mismanaged games. The clock Tuck game plans and players if a football team takes on the mentality of their coach. It's no wonder this team has been ethically flat over his tenure. The chargers are soft disorganized organizing completely incapable of closing all characteristics. They've clearly taken off from their head. Coach McCoy keep telling us that. It's your fault. The team just needs to keep grinding grinding. Find a way to fix it. We'll become painfully evident. That you can't fix it because you have no idea how to spare us your spineless decisions in your scripted press conferences you're clueless facial expressions your overwhelming enthusiasm for field goals. Your failed attempts at being quite with players injuries. And the shotgun draw and do us all favor and emit that your way in over your head. This is widespread incompetence from top to bottom and what this team's teams brass's done to this organization's players is downright criminal. Philip rivers doesn't deserve this Antonio Gates doesn't deserve this and chargers chargers fans you don't deserve it either. Do you remember the most interesting man. In the world commercials from Duckie's well here was our spoof with Mike McCoy as the least interesting arresting men in the world from the folks and brought to you the most interesting man in the world introducing the least interesting man his favorite color his bauge wants to boomerang rang and it decided not to come back. His favorite kind of cake is risking his favourite spotify plan. Vist is elevator music. He likes saltine crackers for the taste. San Diego chargers head head coach. Mike McCoy is the least interesting man in the chargers aren't always down thirty two three going into halftime time. But when they are he kicks field goals. We'll be what's best for the football team moving forward from the least interesting getting man in the world to the least liked bit we've ever done. We did our own version of Johnny Carson Segment Karnak this Garner in Jamie McMahon and. I don't care hair. I stand by these jokes that I wrote one hundred percent we will do it. Old benchmark now wants done by the Johnny Carson show show it's called Karnak so in how this thing will work. If you're not old enough to remember in this goes over your head we can give you a little brighter here in front of us now. Right here are sealed field envelopes and inside. These envelopes are the questions to answer. No one knows these questions but Jamie will be able to to predict the answer. So Jamie's going to give me the answer of what. The question is sealed in this envelope that nobody's seen is going to give me the answer and I'm going to read back back the question so sit back open your mind and enjoy garnic in Jamie McMahon you so partner give me the first answer. The first answer is the holy roller the holy roller. Okay probably referring to the Immaculate Deception that controversial game winning play by the raiders. So let's check out. The Holy Roller opened the seal. Seal them now. What does Philip rivers called the van? He drives to church in the moving on here. The next the next answer is off to a rough start here. The the next answer is nineteen sixty three. That should be easy to hear. The chargers won the AFL championship. Let's see here. That should be easy. How does chargers owner Dean Spanos camp to ten 1963? The next answer is falling star Star Star. Where'd you call Eric? Weddell in this stage of his career as we move move on. The next answer is Big Ben Rob Gronkowski and Mike McCoy's favorite pairs of shoes big Big Been Rob Gronkowski Imag McCoy's favourite terrace. You've been Rob Gronkowski and Mike McCoy's favorite shoes. The question is what is the clock a jock and crocs the next question is take the money and run take the money. Run A famous Steve Miller Song. This should be pretty easy to but I've been wrong wrong each time. The question is what did Donald Butler Sade whose agent after accepting his contract with the chargers. The answer is Yamba Juice Jamba juice John villages named Joey Bosa agent Brian. I- ropes next employer. That's because he's the next answer then. The next answer is Louis. CK Joe Camel. And Melvin. Kevin Ingram Louis. CK Joe Camel and Melvin Ingram name a joker a smoker and amid NATO Ker. I know that song was GonNa wind up one of these jokes Melvin Ingram His weed is potent. That is for sure last but not Li spill last answer is catch. Twenty two catch twenty any to catch twenty two. What do wide receivers do with one hundred passes thrown by Zach? Men Burger catch twenty two Z's terrible. We've done a lot of song parodies. He's on this show over one hundred episodes here are some of the best that will do visit the football team moving forward gotta find a way to win football game which better job. We didn't didn't get it done. We're GONNA continue. You're young and you thought you had some answers and you don't just. It's a long season kind of credit for the effort. We're invaded every position every week Uh there's too many computers these days this is Jamie is love story. The chargers season and before you listen you just now. There's bad words in here so listen to this recording. Fuck that you drafted those guys. That's wrong goddamn and fall. They continue to put these guys in positions that they can't succeed in the biggest examples. Donald Butler he's on the field he can't see on the field. Get them on Google. Who Little fucking ground? Little thing to lesko completely fucked this roster that that front seven is bullshit between the fucking case when a mole Do you know what they did on Sunday. And this went across a fucking line if the charter scored two touchdowns charter fans get a free jumbo. Jack they fuck fans by God. Damn are you kidding. Me Chart your mother mother fucker. I might be the only person back. I'm sick your shit already. Yeah but that is such a distant fucking memory this letter burn. Burn this thing to the ground. Are you fucking out of your mind guy that we've been touting little bit as the chargers seventh round pick the rookie Danica Adema Clark. And he's the one who tours acl. Yes and He's going to miss the entire season as well. So let's let's take a moment real quick and remember Donovan Clark. I'm a big Fan Donald Clark. Who looked really really good at the beginning of rookie communication and I think you should start remembering his name now? seventh round pick Donovan Clark. And all through training camp disguise just stuck out in fact Easter on the veteran shortlist more to the ground twice. He's had two pancakes in cakes. On Sean lists more. I'm telling you the more I watch Donald Clark the more. He looks like he could be the best. Backup Offensive Lineman at the chargers. Have Right now. He's progressed better than Turk looks. Better Than Harris did better than burwell. What have I been telling you guys is about Donald? Clark that's Dude Dharma Clark Look Great. His first game in preseason is he not the best backup lineman the chargers have right now And of course. Here's here's my song. Parody of the Garry shandling show shortly after Garry shandling had passed away. This was on our mammoth defensive. Line draft show last year. That needed a break break in between all right. Let's defensive ends and though it's a long show I guess it's time for a little later intermission so we'll be back. This is as began her mission. Lightning round hand or mayorship. Yes show Braun long so we decided to make a stopping point. Almost halfway finished you either get this reference is from the Garry shandling show sham recently passed. So here's a little Omar. Hbo Wash the Larry Sanders Show. Now this was a bad idea. Probably should on this advanced. Get the show defensive tackle. Sorry all right. Let's talk about some defensive tackles as has the man who was featured on ESPN. By Max Kellerman for his work on Joey Bosa. I think it's important for me to introduce these next clips. It's the journey through our love for Joey. Bosa beginning in September. Twenty fifteen with Hashtag blow it up for Bosa and leading us all the way through his rookie season. Take Care Bye sheet right now. You can tell me where the coach at this point. Why don't charter just lose out? Season's Leeson's already over. There's nothing left to fight for. Go ahead and try to get the topic and get a Joey Bosa in this draft class a difference maker a let's go Hashtag blowed for both of a Hashtag down with the tank something. Let's get this going. Let's get the best player in this draft. Yeah I'd be happy. Definitely I mean both my number one option for the chargers so yes I would be. I'd be happy with any scenario that gets Bosa and lightning bolts for sure at dealing crispin. Who on his his team? Would you want to keep going forward. Hashtag get down with the tank. Hashtag blow it up for Bosa. I hope those catch on I see I keep popping up eh every week blown up for Bossa down at the tank but for me. I'm definitely team Bosa. Hey just a one man wrecking crew. I mean if you saw what he did Illinois on Saturday today with one arm. WHO's pushing off on their ass? I mean he is just a difference maker and I love him so I'm definitely Joey Bosa so I I like both have been and saying all year that he's my number one guy and that's the guy I want them. The chargers take number three just successful in the run game as he is a pass. rusher wins with strong hands. You mentioned his hands always always keeping himself clean. Generates power all done at a high level Bosa is a technically sound player who plays with great motor and generally just out works out. Muscles Offensive Lineman the combination of power technique awareness preparation. NFL ready. And I think it will translate into a difference maker by love pretty pretty much everything about his game. We're on the exact same page and I didn't think we actually we're going to be you'd come down on both little bit. Who is the number one guy on your draft board if you wear? The San Diego chargers offers. It's not popular but it's still Joey Bosa. It's really yeah. I know it's not popular. I might be the only person still on the Joey. Bosa trained. Well I think Jamie might be too you but everybody's everybody's off. I don't see how he fits on this team. So what will jamie do Jamie. Because he understands that defenses are built from from the inside out is going to shake Joey Bosa he is going to knock concern himself with a one game suspension. You can say I. By the way uh-huh I'm not gonNA concern myself with a one game suspension. I'm going to concern myself with the best defensive Lineman in this draft class Bosa Bosa. I'm doing the Bosa shrug if you can't see but this is the first guy drafted by the chargers who got the lightning round. podcast Casteel of approval the man that we advocated a blow it up for both for all season long. The chargers selected defensive end. Joey Bosa with the third overall pick and for once they got it right. Jamie say hello to the people all the way from Minnesota. Hey everybody he's He's stuck the whole team left. Minnesota Jamie still left at his hotel. I I must tell here in Minnesota and I couldn't even go to the game. I was travelling during the game. So but I'm here for a week and he's also here for the lightning round podcast and today. Hey like I said is a good day. It is a Great Day Story Day Day in which he has returned of of course that the lightning round podcast started the blow it up for both the campaign. We were some of the given few who pushed the chargers draft. Joey Bosa over Jalen Ramsey Oliver deforest buckner over on Stanley and he has now signed with the San Diego chargers. Jamie goes up the best defensive lion in the draft by far the most technically sound explosive with this first step just Abreu bullies guards left and right. It's a great day added on the roster. I cannot wait to see this plan. Lightning bolts a man. WHO's GONNA make core allegiance job a lot easier? A man who's an underrated run-defender the nobody wants to talk about everyone's to talk about that spin. Move that bull rush his nasty hands but he's GonNa help out pass rush run game he's GonNa GonNa help it. All Joey. Bosa has signed with the San Diego chargers after eighty four long days the holdout is over. The holdout doubt is over. The show is over. We all witnessed Joey Bosa greatness right right. The Prodigal Son has returned joey. Bosa era rain. Bosa is the captain. Now let's let's talk about about the day. We all had the pleasure of watching Joey Bosa at both in Denver of course ass winter you and Jamie getting matching Bosa Shrug Tattoos. I don't know about the shock tattoo. I was thinking maybe ninety nine on my on my right shoulder. Do you think people think that's. Jj Watt of course. Not The ninety nine here. This is the nine. It's a great idea but I don't think we need to put both on our body to remember how much we love boasts right. I mean we don't need to be reminded how right we were about now. Absolutely we will never ever forget that and neither will you listening. No we won't let you never with the third pick in the two thousand sixteen. NFL draft the charter select. Joey Bosa Joey Bosa the the name. The defensive rookie of the year Bo says the Third Charter to ever win the award joining Leslie. O'Neal shod Marian. Joey Bosa finished the season with ten a and a half sacks both posted the most sacks by an NFL rookie since two thousand eleven which were the second most chargers rookie. He finished the season with at least a half sack in each of the final six games. which is the longest stretch by any charters players since Marcellus Wiley Bosa? Total forty eight total tackles forty refi. Pressures Nineteen tackles for loss fifteen. QB Hits to passes defense and one forced fumble. He became the first player. Since Elvis Doom reveal oh the post a pair of two south performances in his first three. NFL Games he was also named NFL. Rookie of the month twice was the pro football writers defensive rookie of the year here. The chargers co Lineman of the year and was a fourth alternate for the pro pro. Football focus rank Bosa as the fifth highest defender collecting more pressures. The first twelve games than any player in the last eleven years also graded as the thirteenth best path rusher in all of the NFL. In Joey Bosa did all of This in just twelve games. Aw Aw Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast. It says here in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is it's all spoiled. Every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too fashionable pants. We Warren Middle School. We also do talk about college football every now and then. Unlike mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early. And unfashionable pants. That coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken can subscribe for free on apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP. Hello Listener I'm Sean. Rama's firm host of today explained. Vox is is Daily News. podcast every day Monday through Friday my team and I look at what's happening in the world. We pick one essential news story that defines our moment and asks smart people to help us understand about twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start or end your day subscribed today explained for free on Apple. podcasts Hyde casts or in your favorite podcast APP. It's from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network speaking of Jamie timing us. Here's our Halloween special. This is the lightning ending round. PODCAST haunted how This is the Halloween intro. The lightning round podcast Welcome to the lightning round broadcast on did house. were all your nightmares. Here's come to life. I will take you down these dank dark halls to each room. That is scarier than the next. Now please with me one hundred houses I was a kid. It's been awhile since I've been getting you going to jump out these rooms. Now the first stop on our frightful tour is the hoover optimistic chargers fans enter Carter's Belco sixteen super bowl bound. That's what we do bolt up. Melvin Gordon Beast Antonio Gates about a break todd. Record Holt Up Melvin Ingram going to get sixteen sacks baby corby Jitka have sixty runs stops. This defense is going to be a monster. Nobody's going to score Ronna. They're gonNA be style pulled up baby. supermo Free Island Alien Receivers Super Opole keen announce GonNa Catch one hundred twenty passes for three thousand yards. Rivers is GonNa go for six extols in them like four touchdowns. Nobody's going to be able to stop this offense denzel permits going to be styled he's GonNa have ten sacks ax variet- he's the best man. Ten picks easy nobody can throw in wease shutdown corner probowl way eh and that was terrifying. I tell you I'm sweating bullets over here. I've never seen anything quite like that before. I didn't want to spend another minute in that room. I'm God we got out of there as quickly as we did. What's next? Our next stop is a room with the four down sequence in Denver from from the two yard line. I don't what's so scary about this. I've already watched this four down serious like three times already. It's not that scary. What houses scary? I don't getting own own. Repeat Jesus chargers path to go and get touched down here with two fifty four to go first and goal at the two trip formation to the left APPs. McGrath the tight end on the right side Gordon over the right shoulder of rivers. WHO's fading back lobbing endzone incomplete borden in the backfield? One on the play clock back goes getting rushed about to get hit. GotTa get rid of it. And he took it incomplete at the right pylon getting chased by demarcus ware. Clocks almost down rivers has football getting rushed zipped to the corner of the endzone incomplete no flag looking for gates. You had first and goal at the two they have cast on every play. Nothing's happened yet. Lake Block at one rivers has football getting blitz. Throwing endzone batted down and a quarter. Turn it over. The chargers have to go and get touchdown touchdown here with two fifty four to go first and goal at the two trips. Four Mason to the left McGrath. The tight end on the right side Gordon over the right shoulder of river. WHO's fading eating back lobbying endzone incomplete? Well I'll never wash that series again. Nope I definitely had enough of that as we continue our tour we now venture to. We'll place where it though person wants to be. It's the Garrett's pretentious musical. This is where he drones on about. Komo news the thing about vinyl that makes it so great. Y You have to listen to vinyl records. It's fully analog. It's fully losses. It's how artists intended music to be listened to. That's how they put it out there. They didn't want to crush down to an empty three. They wanted that full body. They wanted that warm. Sound put on your headphones put it in your speakers. Drop that needle down and listen to that. Vinyl listen to the full array of sounds owns all around. You open up that jacket. Look at the liner notes. Look at the artwork. It's how music is supposed to be listened to. It's not this tinny crush rush down music it is a full. I don't think that was so bad. That was off for you. freaking kidding me. I don't get it. WHO TALKS ABOUT VINYL? That much got a pompous ass bow. Let's enter a maddening place. This is the Jamie is always right. Room let's see how long long it takes before he tries to big time. I was right about Bosa. I told you the best hands in the draft told you he had the best footwork in the draft. I told you nobody can touch him. I told you time and time again. You build a defense from the inside out. Look what happens when you draft the defensive end who can get to the quarterback my God. What if the chargers had gotten him on the field at the right time? What if they signed him in June and he'd been there for training camp and the preseason preseason and the first four games I told you the charges were cheap even? ESPN agreed with me. They picked up my article. They did a whole segment on me. I was in the Washington Post. Okay so that's the worst. I might go back to the four down series rooms. That's how bad that last year was. No that was awesome. You know what you're talking about about. Let's keep going now. Keep walking and enter into a room full of nightmares. This is the Mike McCoy press conference mark where he spouts his cliches and you will do best with a football team moving forward clear. Doing what's best for the football team to win. We gotta find a way to win that football game. We just gotTa do a better job. Eleven guys doing their job better. We're GONNA continue trying it out. That's what we thought was the best interest of football team in that game. Everybody doing their job right. You gotta put players in a position to succeed and they they do their job. We have our players are kind of credit for the effort. We didn't get it done. Just keep by playing the game the way we WANNA play it. It's a long season. Everyone on the football team room for improvement was an instinct. Initially that I said kicked a field goal. Let's do what's best for this podcast and get the hell out of that room. I'm sorry what is that room over. Thank God this last room will conclude our Artur and is the scariest of them. All you are now entering the Dean Spanos is the owner of your Fi. Rip Football to room. I don't I don't understand. There's just mirrors here. What is this week? We live this every day. Dean is the owner of our favorite football team. This is real life I'm Brian. And lastly we end this hundred episode with the biggest thing we've ever done. It was our serial parody the investigative report of WHO Killed The chargers twenty fifteen season straight years the federal tendency because there are a lot of games. Here that are trapped games. That could go either way. Autism invested into Melvin. Gordon seems like he's really the linchpin the keystone of the receiver to see how hard he runs and where he can take. The chargers in twenty-fifty my prediction for the chargers Sandiego is south end. Denver's for we're your stranglehold on the division winning eleven games or so and ruling the AFC west for the first time since two thousand and nine spoiler alert. The chargers are my surprise pin the from studios in San Diego California the lightning round podcast cast the chargers. Two Thousand Fifteen season told him one episode. I'm Garrett Society and I'm Jamie Hoyle Every Sunday for the last seventeen weeks we slowly washed the demise of the San Diego chargers we tried to get to the root of this unique case. Jason investigate what exactly happened to the chargers during those sixteen games we had to ask ourselves. WHO's to blame? WHO's at fault I want? I want you to think about a team those projector for the playoffs a popular pick to win the AFC west the super bowl sleeper now fast forward to the end of the season. The chargers among one of the worst teams in the NFL currently being mocked as much as the browns the browns could it be all from head coach. Mike McCoy was it. The players was a professor plum with the candlestick in the dining room. Was the general manager Tom to lesko. Did it. Go higher than that owner Dean Dean Spanos. We set out to find answers to the all important question who killed the San Diego chargers. Two Thousand Fifteen season to understand. Stay on this story. We have to start at the beginning and the story starts in February. Two Thousand Fifteen land transaction deal that would allow an NFL thile stadium to be built in Carson closed this morning so the D.. For the one hundred fifty seven Acre space which used to be a landfill is now controlled by the city we have Carson and they will lease it to the stadium. Authority in the stadium is in fact built their meanwhile eleven more acres were also sold to a group that's owned jointly by the chargers and the Raiders Carson together. That's what they're calling this effort a plan to build a split you stadium in Carson to be shared by the now San Diego chargers and now Oakland Raiders and the mayor says the chargers had been keeping the stadium. Deal a secret for months as the mayor of San Diego Kevin Faulkner is scrambling to formulate a plan for a new stadium. William Dean Spanos. Not so subtly leaks teams genius. Plan to build a new stadium on a dumpsite in Carson with the raiders in his infinite wisdom. The fashion of big business himself decided the best way to build political. Will and fan support for a new stadium. In San Diego was to not only build a stadium on a literal dumpsite and the armpit otherwise known as Carson California but enter. Enter into a partnership with raiders. Owner Mark Davis in order to do it was it a bad omen. Maybe the first step and killing the season perhaps perhaps but we need to dig deeper with the future of the franchise very much doubt doubt and fans already feeling uneasy. News broke to the charter. Said worked out top prospect quarterback Marcus Mariota and Oregon and were entertaining trading queries for quarterback Philip Rivers rivers. Makes Sense Right. I mean what better way for football tuna market itself Amish relocation speculation the drag the franchise quarterback Republican prolonged trade speculation. We didn't know any better. We'd say the charges were trying to piss off their families from their. We fast forward to early early March and the free agency signing period which the chargers entered armed with plenty of cash and a multitude of holes to fill for for once. The chargers were aggressive. And at least on paper productive new coming out in January we had some some team needs needs. Some areas of improvement were looking for Bob. Tackle was it was a crucial spot for a key. Position came with a free agent. You know he was best left. Tackle tailable really on the market brandon. Flowers I think universally is one of the you know one or two top corners available in the market this year and We're lucky enough to get him. Back in office of line has been an area that we want Improve on and Orlando Franklin was our our main target through the whole thing special teams my two years here. We just haven't been good enough returning kicks and punts and A position that area that we had to get better at and You Know Jacoby became available and Jacoby is You know it was one of the better dual returners kicks exam points in the League after a busy and fruitful free agency period Thom Tillis goes anointed. A hero hit bolster the offensive line with Orlando Franklin. Joe Barksdale added a game breaker on special teams. Jacoby Jones resigned. The likes of Brandon Flowers and King Dunlap success. Town is a buzz with excitement. GM GM Thom Tillis gone. Looks like a genius. This is where we should have noticed. Something was wrong. Charges a small clues but excitement from potential. His team blinded us from what was right in in front of us. It all started with. Melvin Ingram introduction proud to see it in my introduction much from the my roof was touching. I came from the chargers outside. LINEBACKER released a track entitled intro under the Moniker White. PC on soundcloud account while digging into his rap past we found white PC stood for young paper chasers. which was the record label? He released the song it wasn't until the fifty one second one where things things took A. Turn Remade Foca. My weed is in no time for that was my word is smoking. My weed is potent no time for joking not uncommon to have we'd references to rap track except for the fact that he's employed by the NFL that is against substance abuse policy. Not only does he snitch on himself but he then proceeds to say no time for joking as if to say seriously I smoke. I'm not kidding. I consume marijuana regularly. Ingram has never been caught. What if that is indeed the case but just one of the early warning signs? This team may be slipping Zun after rookie not inside linebacker Denzel Paran steps out of line during chargers. Ota's but it wasn't on the field that got the young buck and hot water see see paramount had been limited in ot as because of a hamstring injury but he then chose to attend a charity. DODGEBALL game dodgeball fun. Competitive Van van. If your San Diego Charger Denzel Perryman a big no. No the chargers second round pick took part in a dodgeball. Charity event with teammates over the weekend and his coach was not not too happy about it. A pyramid has been limited in the team's workouts because of a hamstring injury. So Mike McCoy wasn't thrilled to see. The linebacker exempts himself playing dodgeball. Aw McCoy told the San Diego Union Tribune. It's been discussed. That's all I'm GonNa say I'm disgusted with him. That's it got to get past these tests here before you do all that stock. Luckily Perriman appears to have made it through the dodgeball tournament without aggravating. His sore happy. Why was he played dodgeball? When he supposedly too injured to play with his team? Who wouldn't talk to a man that attended that very dodgeball? Game Coach Samuel Anders. Who is adoptable expert enthusiast? I former Pyramids Dr Coach at Helix High School in San Diego California now coach Anders. Can you tell me your background. I've been a physical education teacher for twelve years. Here's the captain of the back. toback extreme dodgeball league champions. The dodge fathers in referee when we don't have a dodgeball practice. Okay so you were at that. San Diego. After school starts dodgeball archibald tournament when Denzel Primary was playing right yes I was. I was doing some scouting while I was there as an expert on the sport. Do you think the movement from Denzel that day that maybe he was injured through look like his hamstring was bothering him look. I've been doing this a long time. Okay I didn't get the nickname long shot for nothing. Denzel used the jumping split the jump off and did what we call a barrel roll to dodge three consecutive balls on the sequence and then got up and eliminated his opponent for the win if he was injured. That's quite a series but I've never seen it done before. So while we aren't insinuating the Denzel Perryman faked an injury. What we do know is that at the very released? The moves he was making that dodgeball tournament could not have helped his pre existing injury just another indication. This coaching staff did not have a good grasp on its players. Thinking yourself guy raps about smoking. Sticky ICKY Yicky another plays a game kids play on the playground. What's the problem problem and onsite smoked weed? Zandt make him guilty of murdering. Hey you may be asking. How'd you pin this on the coach? You can't just be a case of a few bad apples well. A larger crisis arose another chargers this practice another day without Eric. WEDDELL teams post safety missed the first day of the final week off. Ota's on Monday sessions. Being Voluntary Weddell isn't subject. The discipline then came the Eric Bockel which depending on who you believe was either a case of Weddell simply simply overvaluing himself or the chargers refusing to negotiate with their all pro safety regardless Tom to lesko allowed this to get ugly fast as well as agent took to social media to point out how disrespected his seven million dollars. A year safety felt how poorly the chargers were spending their money and that Weddell was done as charter coach. Mike Coordinator hold a closed-door meeting in which he told the team news time to quote move on without Weddell so that does time to quote not focus on players who don't want to be here and quo clearly missed mark based on the number of players who couldn't wait to just the contents of the meeting to local media probably not a good indication of my McCoy's command in the locker room. San Diego coach. Mike McCoy is adamant about not talking about little or any charge or not attending pencil. Tackle Corey leads defense. Having to work without its captain significant. It's not really a distraction. Prestigious said I'm pretty sure he's working hard somewhere getting in shape. Weddell is ticked off because of his contract situation is entering the final year of his deal. The chargers despite saying otherwise earlier in the air interested in offering an extension heading in the training camp and important headline was then right tackle. Dj fluker as possible. Move inside decide to right guard with the new edition of Right. Tackle Joe Barksdale. The team denied fluker shift to guard but they did push a different agenda they announced. Dj fluker fluker looked to be in quote great shape an interview with Dj. He revealed he was down to three hundred and forty five pounds and feeling more comfortable. The most suspicious part of this story. Dj fluker played the twenty fourteen season at three hundred and fifty pounds meaning from the chargers last game on December knbr twenty eighth two thousand fourteen to May tenth two thousand fifteen when the article was published. fluker lost a grand total of five pounds. Sounds in exactly four months and thirteen days to get a better understanding of the magnitude of this weight loss. We called the top sports medicine physician at Johns Hopkins. Dr Michaela Quinn. Hello Dr Gwen. This is Jamie we spoke earlier about getting your expertise on a case as we're working on. I'm about to go into surgery. There is a football player specifically an offensive Lineman who lost five pounds in a little over four months. Would would you consider that extreme. Would you categorize that as a lot. Hello why was fluker loss of five pounds in four months story wasn't meant to be a distraction to hide the fact that this team knew it wasn't going to be any good well. The preseason further cloaked dilemma facing the chargers. The offense looked dynamic with the offensive line playing with a mean demeanor. Rookie running back. Melvin born orange-winged. Promise to see me. Johnson adding a new wrinkle to the offense. The defense looked aggressive with exotic blitzes. Getting pressure not seen around this team quite some time but more importantly the team came out of the four preseason games primarily unscathed by Andrews. The team was healthy. Take the pieces in place. And then the lions came to town for week one in San Diego Rush while pattern Eh. Stevie now San Diego knocking on the door and a touchdown and then Stamford earn looking for golden tape. But that is incomplete lion. Sports defined George is trying to solve this one away. It's Danny woodhead charges and winning winning this one coming all the way back now. Let's head to Cincinnati the bengals coming off a big win over the raiders in Oakland. Back home taking on the chargers came back to win big over the Lions and we wonder saying Dalton but good in week one although drive stalls here punting we know what Joni right right. Well it's because it's a huge key now drops the punt recovered by the bengals and now they are in business. I was a big win for the bengals. They moved to two and zero with the twenty four nineteen victory over the chargers. Bolt Sarnoff sees one after grinding out. A hard-fought come from behind win against the Lions fell flat in a twenty four to nineteen loss Cincinnati. Wish they turn the ball over three times loud four SACHSE. Philip rivers coughed up. One hundred seventy five rushing yards to the bengals in other words. They're overwhelmed on both sides of the ball. Were not able to match the Bengals athleticism or physicality body in all three phases in the game while most coaches would see this as an opportunity to reconsider their game plan. Mike mcquay took a different approach preparing his team for the Vikings in week. Three rivers. As the Mike Zimmer lead defense five times in his career last week in Cincinnati provided a bit of a dress rehearsal for what this churches offense will. CD The bengals still employ. The Defense Zimmer broad there as coordinator for six seasons of the rivers US met the preparation this we got a bit of a carryover the over there actually able to take into the game plan. Bring it here to Minnesota a rarity in this week to week. NFL football coach decided to recycle the same in game plan for Minnesota the following week following the loss against the vikings charters gotta win against the Browns and week four and they could have used that victory in one of two ways mm-hmm they could have either use it to help. Bolster their confidence as a team and use it as motivation or lose twenty four to twenty two final title as the steelers winning with Zeros on the clock and lose. Oh it was knocked away on fourth. In Gaul. Murray's Randolph and rivers cannot believe it and the raiders and win it thirty seven twenty nine Raven second win of the season and the chargers. Here's the Milwaukee yet again lose four thousand twenty three rivers. Just throw it all. That's bad football like there and lose again thirty three two three breathe bolts and lost six in a row now to eight and things are bleak. The chargers chargers owner Dean spanos still has foot out the door and San Diego and halfway to La. Thom Tillis was big. Free agent. Signings are by all accounts. Not Panning out. Like glueck skywalker to an ad at this machine was moving forward who might require roped by the legs and brought it to the ground effected a team sixteen losing streak leaked outside the chargers Rogers Park in negativity resonated with charger fans. Here's one glossy eyewitness account. This is my dad man. The things I I saw seaman for like a month and a half I Washington slowly died. Like a guy with diabetes congenial and eat doughnuts. What you know what you're doing this wrong? It's GONNA kill you. She just keep doing it doing it. We just have to sit and watch uh-huh like death by don a tough time breath with most chargers fans sick with team's performance as far they finally manage a win in week twelve against the Jaguars but for head coach. Mike McCoy it. It serves as his breaking point warning. The following audio may be disturbing to some people to awards. Didn't love you if you guys after the game if I didn't do it that's why no honestly situation got. Some guys are laughing. Inherently we're having smile it's nicer smiles miles while again isn't it. It's always nice and smile in here within a long time when walls. What you're hearing is the early signs of a psychotic break break maniacal laughter ramblings of a Madman Guy? WHO's cracking under the pressure shortly? After can't handle the heat from the media you walks out after being questioned about a punt returner. We're going to do what's best for the football team to win. Yes move I will do. What's best for the football team? Moving forward like every other position on the football team. We're going to do what's best for the the football team at every position every phase in all three phases gadget. What's best for the football team off early desperately wanted to go This time in our investigation. We knew things were dire the curtains of fate. We're starting to fall. The chargers were on their last breath breath but the whole atmosphere had changed their auditing was palpable. It felt like the chargers were hiding something and then came word art general manager Tom to Lesko at signed a contract extension tossed cosigner three or sanction the prior to this season which was never reported to the media. If ever there was evidence of complete dysfunction this was uh frankly. We aren't sure which part of this makes the least amount of sense was it. The three year extension for the architect of the worst offensive and defensive lines FOOTBA. Aw the fact that. The team felt the need to hide the extension for five months or the decision to leak while the team was amidst one of its worst seasons in franchise history very unfortunately for Charles Vance has just another day at the office fans family. This brings us to the Miami game which at least appears to be the final chargers home game qualcomm while all the bolts put on a show for their fans. This particular game was about so much more than what happened. On the field it was ultimately about the emotionally draining end of an intense love affair between fans and players about confusing and heart wrenching. Goodbye and about the side of the stadium negotiations and PR campaigns that is so often forgotten if not ignored altogether the human side charters continue to lose and ultimately die slow death lane cheat death by thousand cuts which brings us to our original original question. Who Killed The San Diego chargers two thousand fifteen season? The major suspects we asked was own Dean Spanos. He left a distraction of the move l.. A. Ring throughout that building plus. He's the man who hired both Lesko an McCoy or was it. Gm Tom to lesko majority is free agent acquisitions in Pan out his first round pick. He traded up to get Melvin. Gordon almost broke the record for the most touches by rookie. Running back without scoring a touchdown or was it charters head coach. Mike McCoy of all the suspects he certainly had the greatest means and opportunity the tank this season as the head coach he was after all responsible responsible for the feeble minded and recycle gains each and every week the failure to manage his players and the clock and the steadfast refusal to take take any chances whatsoever I guess at the end of the day. NFL players just don't respond to or slices Capri Sun and participation trophies. It seems they need to see results. which is the one thing? McCoy hasn't delivered on a consistent basis. We're we're the players guilty. Will they just not talented enough. Thus US making them what the record says they are wasn't the incompetent owner general manager or the inflexible head coach or was was the team. Just not that good but then we thought he just made a question of war but rather so there. It is some of the best moments lighting around podcasts. Through one hundred episodes also Jamie and I have been together in-studio looking at each other for I think ninety seven or ninety eight episodes Jamie took a vacation in Idaho. One one time and we had to do it remote and another time. He was in Minnesota on a business trip. We do it remotely then too but ninety seven I think. Maybe you've been in Idaho twice. I can't remember but ninety seven or ninety eight episodes where we've been here in this room together looking at each other. Congratulations one hundred episodes. I wouldn't have done it with anybody else. Congratulations Buddy it was a lot of fun. It's quite a ride. Yeah and thank you every single one of you. That's listened past present future. We appreciate every single one of you. We wouldn't be doing this without you. The feedback has been incredible throughout this one hundred episodes even the negative. When you hate things we said and hate the things we've ripped players about and even the great things like people talking about how it's cheer them up dark times and Brian Families together father sons listening together career and It being a ritual that. It's all been incredible. There's been some real inspiring things that have been said and we appreciate it. We've put the we put in the effort for you guys. I so thank you so much for one hundred episodes for the hundredth time Jamie where he out on twitter at lightning underscore around. I'm accurate sixty. We love everyone of you thanks everybody.

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Better Rivals Ep. 278: The Nick Bosa Scouting Report

Niners Nation

36:35 min | 1 year ago

Better Rivals Ep. 278: The Nick Bosa Scouting Report

"I remember the rules drink whenever someone says Joey Bosa dear God, I only have one beer in here. Welcome. This week's edition of the Niners nation dot com. Rivals podcast. My name is Oscar apprecia- and this week. It is the first of at least two episodes covering the NFL draft. It is the first round that is Thursday night. And whoa, man. Did we get everything we expected we would get and with me this week to tell us about his favorite flavor of giants milk. It's David Newman. David what's up level giants milk? Yeah. I mean, I don't know that I want whatever milk. The giants are drinking good. Some giants milk is gentlemen, Gettleman has no idea what the hell is doing. Its would you drink your milk in a big gulp? Just a giant big gulp? I'm saying maybe so forty Niners. Select Nick Bosa defensive end out of Ohio State shocker. I know it's shocker, but you know, what if Callum was going to go first overall Niners did not get a king's ransom to trade down. This was one of the. Options. And honestly, this is exciting because we're going to give you a full scattering report of Nick Bosa in this week's episode. Well, the first of two episodes over the course of the draft, and we're going to go back to the same breakdown that we had last year, but we were breaking down prospects. More in depth. The first thing we're going to cover is there profile, then we're gonna talk about production. We're gonna talk about where the player wins any potential limitations. And then we're going around it out with projected impact for Nick Bosa because this is I mean, this is yes expected, and yes, it's something that we I mean, I'm opted in the espionage in mock draft, and it's expected, but it was expected because for a long time this player was considered the best player in the NFL draft. Yeah. And I think that's I mean, I think he's he's very clearly to me the best non quarterback in this draft. Right. So I think once you remove quarterback from the equation. It was really a two man race between Bosa and Quinton Williams is the best player here. I think this just made a lot of sense if you're going to stay there. Right. We've talked a lot about. About some of the value that you might be able to gain from moving back. But if you're gonna stay at two and pick a player with only Cuyler Murray off the board like this just made too much sense. You have a very very good prospect at position of value. That is also a position of need. And so just kind of all of those things aligned in so, yeah, I think it's a kind of a no brainer selection. If you're gonna stay there too. And John Lynch in his press conference said that Nick Bosa was a player the forty Niners coveted for a long time. You're bullying right now. What happened on the Twitter's raiders took her running the raiders are on fire tonight? So the other thing about this episode, ladies and gentlemen, is unlike our other episodes there live things happening in the draft while recording. What picker we at right now. So that was twenty four right now, we're so the raiders just took a Josh Jacobs man running back Sullivan. I way way to spend first of two to your first two of three first round. Because I mean, they got Clinton Cleland feral or. Or four. Yeah. Which was I mean, like I said on Twitter, we would have given him. Eric Armstead for a lot less. And so what happens, but let's get to Nick Bose's athletic profile because it's when you look at his profile. It's one of the things that edged Russia's really need to have to be successful. That's not the say that you won't be successful. If you're not an athlete, but chances are if you're a good address Scher, it's because you're a solid athlete and Nick Bosa is the eleventh best athletes in this draft class. He's a better athlete than seventy four percent of the edge players in the NFL. So he clears a very very important bar his physical skills or simply not a limiting factor. And then it goes to technique, right? I think this is something that we're continuing to learn more about and how important is it. Not just I think for for most all positions really at this stage, you know, with with maybe exception of quarterback and a couple others. But we see that it is very important kind of across the spectrum positions. And. I think even beyond that there are few where it is really important to have certain athletic traits. And I think edge rusher is one of those you want to clear that athletic threshold it just. It's tough to take a chance especially high in the draft on an Ed river. That's bad athlete. Like, you just don't have many of those guys at pan out. And so while yes, he he may not be the athletic freak that a player like Montas sweater. Rashawn Guerrier Brian burns might have been like he is well above the threshold of athlete that you wanna see for for a quality player. No surprise, very similar athletic profile to his brother, Joey Bosa. So yeah, I think you know, he clears the bars that you want there. Everything looks good in that stuff shows up on tape. Right. We see that athletes translate on the field, which of course, is the most important thing so person thea froylan of Freeland froylan, not sure, but names are thing person the Freeland of NFL network. She points out that Nick Bosa ran the short shuttle in four point one four seconds and had a ten yard split on his forty yard dash of one point five five seconds. Both of these numbers beat the combine results. His pro brother, Joey and per froylan Freeland. I'm just going to mess. It up. Either way doesn't matter. These tests have been more correlated to NFL defensive end success than the full forty are dash which makes a whole hell of a lot of sense because it's the short area quickness. It's getting off the line and Nick Bosa is very good at those two things. Right. I think that's actually one like I think probably overall Joey Bosa maybe a little bit more, well rounded athlete ending change might be a little bit better for him. But that one five five ten yard split is something's apparent when you look at it really kind of drilling on the third downs where he's really looking to get off the ball quickly right in obvious passing situations. You do see that first step. Quickness is really good any covers a lot of ground in his initial few steps in his rush. And I think that's something that we see reflected in that tenured split other player on the forty Niners offensive line that compares physically to Nick Bosa contagious street. Forgot about him. Didn't is that. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's going to be there doesn't ring a bell star. He's a player he exists and he is on the forty Niners. In addition to a whole bevy of first round picks. I don't believe you. Well, keep drinking your beer. I'm gonna go ahead and just say Joey Bosa drink. All right. So let's get to production. So production is another area that you are looking out of your top prospects to have because if they have physical talents while you expect those physical towns to shine especially in college, and that's exactly what Nick boasted he won on over twenty five percent of his pass rush attempts in college that was the second highest overall and as a true freshman if you just look at his true freshman play he had a higher pass rush win rate, then Brian burns Cleland Farrell and jock guy. Man. I did it again Jakab lights. Okay. There you go. He had this past season. Right. So I think from from production standpoint, there are very few players that have been able to match the the overall level production when you look at their entire career at least since we ever been grading college football like which goes back to the twenty fourteen season now so in that timeframe over the past five seasons. I mean, really the only player that is a top prospect because you get some players from smaller schools that kind of dominate Ronning Bingham is a guy like that. Like the guy that he's second to in that win rate is Bingham because he was just kind of demolishing these tackles that had no business blocking him. But you look at kind of the top prospects that when at the top of the first round here. I mean, it's boatswain Myles Garrett are basically the two guys that are at the top of our grading system through the five years that we've been doing this. So really across the board everything that you'd like to see you mentioned the win rate, which is. Fantastic. Just to kind of put that in context. Usually you're you're looking at a win rate in kind of the upper teens. Yeah. Your best players are really in that like upper teen made in nineteen percent. If you're really really good you'd like top twenty. Yeah. Like a like a fantastic season. It's not something that you would like maintain right over a long stretch of time. But maybe your best season it reaches twenty or a little higher. He won on over a quarter of his pass rushes over his college career. So I mean just a phenomenal win rate. They're not a lot of cleanup pressures. So you look at the raw pressure total sometimes that can be a little misleading. You we see things like like, Vic Beasley is a good example of having seasons where he had a lot of pressures. But the way he got those pressures wasn't really indicative of his ability as a Russia. Right. It was it was situations where he was left unblocked or. Things that we're the play broke down that made it easier for him to get a pressure. A lot of that from one of the reasons why we weren't super high on his Iki lonso right because this Iki Lana sack numbers and Zach numbers beguiled his pass rushing ability because a lot of it was cleanup stuff. But when you look at the overall pressures that make Bosa had that wasn't the case only eight hundred nineteen pressures clean or cleanup pressures, which means that he was earning all of those pressures because he's just Dame. Good at football. Yeah. I think it's I mean, that's that's basically like he is really I think one of the top prospects at the position to come out in the last few years. I think there's there's not a lot to point to. That's that's really wrong with his game. When you look at when you look at his hand size, even though he's not a quarterback. Let's take a look there from an only five tackles in his three years at Ohio State. So he is on the opposite of the Solomon Thomas spectrum when it comes to missing tackles, which is good because of course, forty Niners missed one whole hell of a lot of tackles, basically all. Across defense. But Nick, both are not going to have that problem. He's got forty Niners. You could say might have had Solomon Thomas size hands when they were making that selection. Didn't quite get everything that they were hoping for. Now, I'm just imagining the gecko with Thanos within glove. Just like that's Solomon Thomas. That's how we're going to fix. All this just put little stones give on. That's right. Let's do it. So where does Nick Bosa win? Well, he wins with his hands. Because he is an absolute technician when it comes to keeping tackles hands off of him, the one of the top things that you look at. I think the I think this is tough for college. Prospects is going because you don't often see guys that are very refined in this area. A lot of times. This is something you're pointing to is like, okay, you show some flashes things, but he needs some polish, right? He needs to be able to continue to work in this area boats. Probably among the more refined prospects in this regard that we've seen come out in recent seasons. I'm just very good. Not only from kind of a variety of moves. But I think is timing is very good as well. So one of the things that you'll see when he looks to kinda shoot his hands out and meet the tackle the timing of being able to recognize when the tackles trying to punch and get his hands on. Him and be able to knock those away or get a hold of them know, go into his pass remove at that point. Is is very very good. He rarely see him kinda shoot his hands late or be able to react to what the tackles doing late. So timing is very good there. And then, you know, again, once he actually is going into his pass rush moves you see this kind of more refined hand usage and more variety of moves with his hands than you're used to seeing with college prospects entering the NFL. Now, he does have a preferred pass rush move, and he calls it the side scissor. And effectively you're chuckling. It sounds gross than it is. But it's just it's just what he does his hands. So effectively as the tackle gets ready to punch, stop laughing. Just what Joey Bosa more. More. So right as the tackle gets ready to punch, which is really a move. That's meant to knock the defender. Of course, both is able to swipe the hands away as the tackles leaning forward. And basically in that moment when the tackles like, oh, no I've made a terrible decision and they're leaning forward over their hands. And then contemplating the nuances of black holes in the Higgs both on molecule both has already around the corner, and he's able to get past the tackle absolutely clean without getting stopped or impeded on his way to beating up the quarterback. So it really is. That's has to move. But he's still even though he has to move, and it's very very effective. He's still able to win in multiple ways. If that doesn't work, right? And I think that gets to what's probably my favorite thing about his game. Which is what we'll call pass rush plan. And so kind of the thing that I'm referring to when when talking about that is it's not just, you know, necessarily like predetermining like I'm going to switch up. My moves this way. Right. I think it really all comes down. Onto your ability to recognize what the tackle is doing with his set. And then have a move that corresponds with that. Right. I have a way that I can win based on what the tackle is giving me here. So if the tackle is cheating inside a little bit. He kind of wants to lean heavy on the inside. I have the outside move that I can beat him with if he over sets beat him to the outside a few times now, and he's really looking to get wide and take away that outside move. I'm able to recognize that quickly. And I've got the inside move to counter. Right. If he leaves his chest opening got his hands out widens. He's got that there. I've got the bull rush that I can go get my hands and his chest really driving back. So it's it's the ability to recognize what the tackle is trying to take away and not only and being able to do that in time. That's quick enough that I can react to it. And have a move that. I can go to that allows me to win and get to the quarterback. And I think that's something that he does better than any other player in this in this draft class Bosa. With an outside move every eight point eight snaps, and he won with an inside move every seventeen and a half snaps in that inside move is really really devastating shell on the NFL network broadcast pointed out that his inside move was really really nasty, and he's absolutely right. His his ability to move inside. When that tackle sets too, far the outside is absolutely devastating. And this was one of the reasons why we liked him more. So than someone like Josh Allen. Because Josh Allen was probably a nudge, better of an athlete overall. Not even by a whole hell of a lot. I think it was. Not by much when you look at their spark scores. But when when you look at the ability to have a tackle take one move away and then counter with something else and still succeed. That's something that Josh Allen didn't do overall repeatedly on tape and Nick both when we get to his refinement is a pass rusher. I mean, he's able to win inside outside. He's got to go to move. But even if you take away that move he's able to counter with a lot of things. And I mean, it's really it's exciting. I know that we probably would have preferred a bit of a trade down. But this is one hell of a consolation prize because he's really really good. He's great not just in this draft but across other drafts, and he does the things well that project well to the NFL, and I mean overall, I probably couldn't be any more happier than a trade down to the Niners ended up with someone like make Bosa. Exactly, I think, you know. And this is something that we talked about a lot obviously leading up to the draft. But there's always a lot of value to be had if you can trade down from one of those top two picks, right? The opportunity to accumulate a bunch of. Picks and get more opportunities to select players as always very enticing in something that every team I think in that position should consider. But obviously not everybody's trading out of those picks. Right. You're gonna you're gonna sit there and you're gonna make some picks. And if you do that you wanna player that's worthy of that high selection in it's again, it's a matter of the prospect being good enough him plane a position that's important. And actually having the ability to come in and help your team win games. And I think that's something that both does bring to the table again. He would be a good prospect not just in this draft class. But in any draft class that he were to enter he would be a top five player. And so I think that's the guy that you feel excited about if you're gonna stay up there and not look at the trade down scenarios. That's the guy you wanna feel excited about I mean, he he's the next of all the things that you want out of a pig in this area. Right. He is just like you said he plays a position of value. He is incredibly good at that position value. He had collegiate production. He is an athlete. He takes all of the boxes and he's a forty Niner. And so when you look at his limitations, right? What are the dings on some lightning Bosa? Well, I think you've got to start the section out by pointing out that Robert Sala absolutely cupboards covets coverage from his linemen because nose tackles and coverage are exactly what you want to do. So we have no other option than that. He's gonna drop Nick both in coverage repeatedly. And I don't know that that's really Nicklaus strength only three covered snaps in his entire college career. Because what the hell they're doing with defensive linemen which the Panthers played defensive back. That's basically all I've got for you. I mean, you know, it's it's tough. I think you'd never are many. Yeah. You never wanna come in. With with the impression that a college prospect doesn't have place to improve or anything like that. It's not it's not that. And he by no means a perfect prospect in. Isn't a player there's zero chance that he's going to fail. Right. It's we're not saying any of those things. But when you look at his game at the college level at least like he does so many things like the best thing about him is that he does so many things well and there's just no glaring weaknesses. I mean, we mentioned earlier that he had the second highest pass rush grade in this class behind run behind Bingham. He has also the second highest run run defense grade, which again, we're not gonna talk in depth about run defense. It's kind of a secondary thing compared to pass Russia at the business that you can do it. But he does it. He does that at a high level too. You're not gonna point that two point to that as a weakness. So yeah, I don't know really where you're going with his game. I think the only thing if I was really really looking to get nitpicky would be that. Okay. He's not the super high end athletes, not the Myles Garrett style athlete and have obviously the injuries. I think is maybe the thing that people would point to. So I think if you're someone who's. Not super excited about this Bosa pick you're probably looking at one of two things one of which we try to stay away from. But I think we'll address on this show, but the primary thing I think is that he is maybe considered to be injury prone, of course, in college. He suffered a bilateral growing lower Donal injury. Which basically means he messed up some shit on both sides of his growing slash abdomen. And from all accounts, though, this is not an injury that lingers, and the the number one thing, I think that we forget about when it comes to the combine are those medical checks, the medical check a super important combine, and this is where the doctors are take these players through the paces put them through their own version of physicals and are able to get data about that player's potential re injury risk, and you've got to think that the Niners have good enough doctors to be able to identify whether or not this is going to be an issue. Now, they've got a whole new medical squad to be able to do this kind of stuff. Right. So it's not an injury like a tendon injury or no cartilage in your knee kind of thing that could potentially be. Longterm issue. So you've got to think that all right sometimes injuries or fluky football's dangerous and the nature of his injury is not one that makes you think it's going to be chronic or repetitive type of thing. Right. And that's really the the only thing that matters guys are going to deal with injuries in all likelihood, and you just want things that aren't ones that tend to linger in. Yeah. Like, he's by all accounts. This is something that it's healed three to go shouldn't be a problem going forward. And that's really all that you can you can hope for and I mean, if you're super on the fringe, you might think to yourself like oh he gave up on his teammates by not playing. But I mean, I know we're not trying to go, but not not yet doesn't matter. But there is something else. That's happened recently that honestly, I kind of wanted to stay away from a couple of news stories recently wanted just kind of brought it back to the fore. And that's honestly as politics he has made some waves about being kind of pro-trump, and then deleting those tweets, and now there's a couple of stories about how he's followed a couple of white nationalist Twitter handles and has for years. And one of those account specifically has thrown up why nationals hand signs they support. The proud boys, which is an extremist group that have been banned from several social media sites and Twitter handle that follows defended the Charlottesville white supremacist protests. So, you know, all of those things I think pulled together I understand why people are a bit concerned because if it's just he's a conservative news pro-trump. Well, so what you probably work with about half of a workforce that your company that's pro-trump it that's just the way of the world. And that doesn't mean that someone is not able to do their job or is not necessarily a good person. But the whole white supremacy thing, I think as different level that like gives me a bit of pas, maybe right? I think that's that's kind of the key part. Right. I think we don't have necessarily a ton that we wanna get into here. I mean, we don't like to get in the habit of judging the character of people that we've never met, you know, I think that's something that we see a lot around draft time and a lot of it. Is a lot of bullshit, honestly. And so I think a lot of it is stuff that doesn't matter. But yeah, I think some of that stuff does seem to cross a line that you're not totally comfortable with you know, you don't want somebody that is kind of publicly advocating for some of that stuff, which is tough. But yeah, I think the important thing is whether he can come in and be a good teammate. And if you can get the acceptance of his teammates. Obviously, we have outspoken guys. It's not just like Colin Kaepernick wasn't the only forty Niner that had public views about this kind of stuff. I mean, you have Richard Sherman. That's their that's going to be in the same defensive huddle as him. If he can win. The acceptance of those guys in everybody in that locker room is comfortable with who he is a human. I mean, that's the important thing that is going to determine whether he is a productive player for the forty Niners. Ultimately can't be a good teammate. I think by all accounts, the answer is yes. And if that's the case, and he's respectful everyone else in the locker room. I don't know that it's an issue their way, but let's get to his actual projected impact on the football field. Because this is where we get back into the super exciting stuff because there are now five first round defensive lineman on the forty Niners. And there is a lot of capital in the front seven. You've got defor. Eric Armstead deforest Buckner Solomon Thomas and Nick Bosa that is first round offensive lineman in consecutive drafts. It's a lot. It's a it's a lot. I mean, one of those things isn't quite like, the others. It's a lot of talent there. I think you immediately go from what was one of the worst Ed groups in the entire NFL last year to one of the potentially one of the strongest. Yeah, I think again for all of Ford's potential flaws like if easier number two that's still pretty good. Right. I didn't get and I think that's kind of where we expect him to be with with both maybe not in your one necessarily. But you know, if they're going to be there for any length of time together, that's kind of how he would expect things to go. But I think the the addition of Bosa really has the potential to set default up for success. So I think one of the things that that is concerning. So, you know, if you look back at Ford, and and kind of the things that we were worried about by adding him and trading for him. It's that he had one really really strong year production, and that was it that was the only time that he's been able to produce at that level in his career. And then when you look a little bit closer at that one year. You realize he was set up for success? Like yet more favorable situations to rush the passer, then basically any edge rusher in in the league. And so look at the talent that it had around him Chris Jones, and you look at Justin Houston, and you think to yourself. Okay. Offense of lines have to account for those two. Yeah. Hopefully Ford can win one on one. And especially if he's gonna win with speed all of a sudden, you have a great situation for him as seed, and that's the thing. So that's that's what we mean by favorable situations is he had a lot of one. When opportunities where he wasn't getting help from anybody so union, we PF chart every single blocking interaction on every play. And we conversation like every interaction like dude walks up. And it's like, hi, how are you doing? Let's have a conversation. Let's shake hands. Yeah. I mean, it's you know, sure something like that. But but so we were able to see basically whether defenders are getting one on one opportunities whether they're getting help whether that's getting chipped off the edge. So we can see basically how many oftens players attempted to block them on any given play. Whether that was an actual block that that was their assignment kind of fully responsible for him or whether they're just trying to kind of help and make it more difficult for him in some way in. So when you look at it from that perspective he again had among the more favorable situations of any Ed rusher. So what you're trying to look at if you're the forty Niners as well. We want to put him as close to that position as we can to help recreate those results. Right. And so I think now you're at a spot where you have to force Buckner, you have Nick Bosa, and if you put those guys on the same side of the defensive line, and you put Ford in the opposite side, like the offensive line is going to have to slide their protection toward Bosa Buckner, and that's going to be something that. Create more one on one situations for Ford. So I think you're really looking not only you're getting very good player and Nick Bosa, but you're potentially helping to maximize what you can get from your acquisition of deform. And to me, this is going to be a really interesting kind of scenario where you're looking at front seven versus coverage because there is I know that PF they very much think that both are important you have to be able to rush the passer. You also are it's incumbent upon you to also defend the past because that's the most valuable plan football. But there's a about which one is a bit more important and the Niners have absolutely double down on the front seven being more important. And they've they've got a lot of resources in that front seven not just in draft capital, but also in paying players like quantum Zander. And so I think ultimately it's going to be really interesting to see how that defense shakes out because if they are able to take a huge leap in terms of defensive production. Then it will be really really interesting to see how they do that. And I do think that. Defraud is probably going to regressive it because he's he had absolute stellar season last year and maintaining that pace both in terms of sacks. And in terms of just absolute pass rush win rate is going to be difficult. But even if he takes a step back. He's still going to be a very good player. And if Nick Bosa can help them do that and to force Buckner can do that. I think that overall is an absolute net win for the forty Niners and something they're going to need in order to close out games because they're not going to be good enough to blow out teams and blow out teams consistently. So they'll probably be in a lot of really close games, and they're gonna need someone to help close those games out when it's a one score game four point and game three point game or something. And they're going to need some kicker not named Robbie gold in order to win the game. So it's going to be something that I think is important and it absolutely can unlock the forty Niners defense in a way. They haven't had in a long time. Right. I think in this kind of gets into looking ahead today to the dry. A bit. But coverage is still something, right? That they need to be. I think that one hundred percent over the rest of this draft needs to be the primary focus they need to be adding players in the secondary. And looking for ways to improve from a coverage standpoint there, I think in a very good spot. I think this first round is played out about as well as it could for them if they were gonna stay at to take Bosa, right? There is we're at right now pick twenty seven is the last one off the board which was Jonathan Abraham from Mississippi State, go into the raiders not a single cornerback off the board at this stage. So everybody that we've discussed all the top three Cornerbacks, greedy. Andre Baker Byran Murphy, some of the next year prospects that we like guys like the Michigan player Justin lane in long. Right. Just base then lane long love. Yeah. And then you've got guys maybe even the third round there guys like Shaun bunting that we talked about during the last episode. So there. There are players that I think that they can go and get and they should look to get multiple options from from that they need to find something that can hit. And I think that's really the key. Because we saw last year. You know, you look at where d- Ford was coming from from the chiefs, and they had all the players you mentioned, right? They had Houston and Chris Jones to go with the Ford. There had one of the best pass rushes in front fours in the NFL and their defense was still horrible because they couldn't cover anyone. So it is very much you need a little bit of both. At least like you can't be so bad in coverage that your path rush doesn't have time to get there. So you still need to work at improving in that area. If you can get to even an average level of coverage, then you're your front four that you've spent so much money and resources on has the best chance to really go out there and have the largest impact. So I think yeah, that's really what we're looking for day to is to go out there, get some coverage ability or so what would be your pig. In the second round, then because you've got a lot of people available. I mean, you've got basically this all the wide receivers available, and you've got really has a corner. I mean savage was taken which was someone that we were crush on. Just because we liked his game in general, but bunting is still available and you still have just about all the corners available. No, literally, all the corner. Yeah. Not a single corner. So we just had another pick Jerry Tillery went to the charges at twenty eight. So right now, we're at the final four picks of the first round the go here, probably after we finish recording not a single cornerback. I mean, I think if the Andre Baker, greedy Williams's there at thirty six you go going after one of those players would you take one of those players over your over like AJ Brown. Yes. One hundred percent the reason that receiver. I think was in consideration thirty six is if these Cornerbacks corners went in the first round, right? If suddenly, you know, your top three top five guys were gone off the board at thirty six. Okay. That's probably a spa. Where we can get some better value receiver. And we start looking at that deep group that you have on day two there. But no question all things being equal. You need coverage far more than you need another wide receiver. And so I think yeah. Especially if some of these top guys are still on the board there. That's that's where you need to be looking at thirty six. No. Honestly, I can't that. I disagree too much there. I think you go coverage you go corner. And you go with the toppers on your board. And I think for us. It was Baker and I could easily see that team going with greedy, especially because he's got more of that profile. I think that the Niners want to go after. But the that's that's where I would go. I would go corner value. That's where you get rally. Right now things are looking really, well, I mean, only two defensive backs total of gone, and savage and Abraham. So I mean, those are both kind of box safeties positions that were not really looking for quite as much as we are cornerback free safety. So I think yeah. They're they're on the even Adderley, you know, if you do get a run of Cornerbacks here. Like at Baker greedier bull run on people. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Exactly. You know in the next what five six picks here before they're up again, I think Adderley in conversation there. But definitely they need to be looking secondary with thirty six as last thing before we go where there any surprises so far in the first round. Oh, man, Cleland feral going number four overall to the raiders was just complete shock. I think Jones Daniel Jones. I mean, I know that you weren't surprised like you literally yelled out the name right before the Commissioner red card, and you weren't tipped on Twitter or anything. But for me. It's just like really Gettleman really like are you are you this bad at this got? Yeah. I think that was again kind of leaked out that that was who they were looking at. And so it wasn't a surprise. It was just more of a kind of head scratching moves. That's where you land. You would. I'd rather have Daniel Jones and saquon Barkley, then I don't know say Sam darnold, Josh Allen. But neither here nor there. I think looking at some of the other ones TJ Hopkinson going eight is a little surprising. He's a very good player prospect Lafayette, man. Everyone's like, oh, you know, what tight end from Iowa draft him don't care, which one that one. Okay. Let's go that might not even be the best one. I think the Texans taking tightest Howard at twenty three is a little bit. So I mean, Alabama state. I know like people liked him kind of more of a sleeper prospect. I think taking him as the third tackle. I believe off the board. Here is a bit of a region is just I mean a team that so desperately needs offensive line help it's such because there wasn't a ton of value at often at tackle really the best center when they had a rough go like the guy that they apparently wanted was Andre Dillard from Washington state who was maybe the best passed protecting tackle in this class. The eagles traded up one ahead of them to take him. I mean, I believe John Taylor is still on the board from Florida. He is I think much better prospect than then. Well. Part of their problem is that they can't scout sublime into save that life. Yeah. The only thing that would make that team. Any better would be Tom cable whether offense of line coach, all I know the last the last parting first round note here is the raiders had three first round picks. They use those first round picks on Cleveland. Title it for not even close to the second best edge prospect in this class. They went with a running back at twenty four and Josh Jacob don't tell me running backs don't matter in a box safety at twenty seven in Jonathan ram that. Hey job when everyone's zig zag. All right. All right. So that about does it for this quick recap of the first round pick for the forty Niners. But we will be back tomorrow and breaking down all of the day two selections with the same kind of rubric that we use for this breakdown. We'll talk about athletic profile production where that player wins any limitations and their projected impact. So thanks for tuning in. And hope you'll have fantastic first night of the NFL draft. And as always go Niners. 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Jovana Zora available and the ball or welcome. For more information for the Corolla drinks and visit Admiral dot com. Genial break. All those crazy. Gene, grad dropping. News with Gina g. The news with Gina grad this half of the show brought to you by legalzoom dot com. Adam and stamps dot com. Inter animas. Well, all right, Gina. Well, he start off with some sad news. But Tim Conway senior the comic actor best known for his work on the Carol Burnett show. He died Tuesday morning in Los Angeles eighty five he'd been suffering from a brain condition that forced his retirement in recent years. He played the oldest man he played Mr. Todd bowl whose accent was inspired by his remain mother. Yeah. He, of course, Dorf on golf endorphin everything he was no Haya native. He was a three time. Emmy winner was all the wacky. Disney movies dumpling. Dumpling is. Well, of course, we know Tim Conway junior. So I had a thought I was hearing about this. When I was leaving the house this morning, and I don't have these starts all the time about people pass away like door. Stay and I was like well there you go. But I don't like living in a world with no, Tim Conway. I just say beloved part of my childhood, and he was always there is one of these guys. It's always air. And then you got then I got into middle age, and he's still there. It's just always there. And always funny I worked with his son. Of course. I've met his father and he's just dry and sarcastic. And so funny, I text a little bit with Tim Conway Judy this morning. Of course, this is a this is a devastating day. It is. But you know, he added five relationship always had a great. I mean, he was unstoppable for fifty year dementia. The they're very private about it. I don't know. But it doesn't seem like it. I mean, he was giving quotes and stuff up until recently. And I think he won for his his guest role on thirty rock when he was on. He was so great that old out of it. You know, old black and white movie star that would just wander the halls of thirty rock. I don't know if you guys remember that. Had such a great show. He said, you know, he's wandered the halls all night. And Liz lemon said are you? Okay. Was anyone even here's like, no. I wondered the all night and the only person I ran into was a really depressed, lesbian who is calling O'Brien. Why? She's so sad. My favorite line. So he will be missed. He will. Well, Fox News reports that thousands of residents in northern California may be threatened by flooding due to weaken levees caused by the homeless encampments that are on top of them, the encampments have popped up along side of the levees and Sacramento county, and they're creating damage the flood control structures, basically because people are digging into the levees to create a flat surface for their tent, and is very very dangerous, the manager of the levees said that the holes are often, but we're going to have to go full vermin mode with these people we need to get crop dusters. Just load them up DVD strife these ways it's not the way to hand too much. There's no more. Hey, give them a voucher to TGI Fridays. Come down from their encampment the hill like wait a second because the councilman there has a different idea. He says he hopes that educating the people that live on the levees with the problems. They're creating will cause them to leave voluntarily is not going to happen. We're having a problem in this nation, which is we have to have rules, and then we have to enforce the rules, and we're doing a thing where we go. Well, we have rules, but sometimes we enforce them. And sometimes we don't which is which is a big time is a big issue. And so it's like if you own a house, and you'd like to build something you have extra rules that didn't exist twenty years ago ten years ago fifty years ago, and they're more rules than you could imagine. And then there's lawlessness which is what's going on in the hills of Hollywood hills Seattle and an all over the all over the all of the country. So you can't have a facade as a society of. Hey, everyone in downtown and everyone in the staple center complex, you have to pay twelve percent tax, which is a security tax, which we put toward. Blah, blah, blah, and a Levy for this and you have to comply to everyone of these handicapped codes, and you can open up because you know, when I was talking to Jimmy and Adam Perry Lang that a stake. They have a steakhouse and LA, and it's great, and I was eating there like on opening day. And I said when you're going to open the window because they wanted to have steak sandwich. A walk up window like, you know, stick Stick's images, and garlic or tofurkey. I can't remember. But anyway, and he said we can't open the window. And I was like well why not because they need the fly fan that blows air out, whatever when when the windows open, sa- flies don't get in. But it's like or there's a guy on the sidewalk just selling ghetto dogs right in front of that the city doesn't care about. So you have to work it out and the problem with compassion. I'll tell you the the next motivational book, the problem with compassion, people stake compassion for something else. When a coach as I guys we don't have to do too many laps like it's pretty it's over eighty degrees outside you think he's a nice coach or compassionate coats. He's a coach's team is going to get asked handed to them on Saturday. That guy has to the drill sergeant has to yell. One more push up or yell at you were trying to climb that that rope. Or that cargo like we need that. And that's not it's not being mean, it's actually what you have to do with kids. What you have to do with pets with you have to do with animals which you have to do with with marines. Young green marines or young football team or or band a marching band, like whatever it is. You got to you got to work it and the politicians of turned into sort of compassionate, folks. It's kind of a bummer the homeless guy waiting to go. Aroused him. Get him up, moving whatever. Fine. You don't wanna do it? It will get more and more and more and certain point. You're not going to handle this through conventional means like you could have handled it through conventional means eight years ago. Some dude goes asleep on the sidewalk it's in front of a store the cops come over. They go him. And you can't do that. We're gonna put you on a bus and taken to the shelter. Whatever. Whatever it is conventional. Now, there's a sea of people they're all over like Seattle. It's all over the hill. They're just like there's no more greenery. There's just homeless guys like just all bivouacked up in the hills. And you're not gonna just have a couple of cops show up and guard fell. Let's pack it up you do something big. Well, speaking of those numbers, California, the byplanes come in with. California leads the nation in the number of mated homeless people estimated over one hundred nine thousand as of last year, and we're super impressed by overcrowding problems here. I'm not I mean, what I find interesting about that headline is the exemption, and maybe I'm wrong. But is that most homeless people uneducated, and therefore -education we'll told this problem. You know, what I mean fiscal education like mental illness drug don't fill don't build the, you know, your your educational you providing is. Educate them as such because most people who are homeless over sudden age have functional education levels, all maybe not GED's or whatever, but you can read you can read and write and converse in. So what are you providing them that is going to help with these problems? It's all addiction mental health and addiction problem. There is seems to be there's no such thing. I- part of the promises got damn experts who aren't experts who paint a picture like this of mother three and she's living comfortably and Sherman oaks. And then she gets a divorce in the husband loses his job. And now they're sleeping on the street. Like, that's not how it goes. It just isn't, you know, why have you ever heard of that have you ever seen that now ever without severe mental without addiction or mental impairment who is on the street physically. And you do hear stories like these rags to riches stories where she fell on hard times. And she had to live out of her car for six months, but she's not living out of her car. Now. Run. We hit these horrible speed bumps, but we don't stay in them. It's a diction, and it's mental illness, and that's it. Well, you mentioned Jimmy Kimmel. And I don't know if you heard this yet, but Jimmy has signed a new contract with ABC to continue hosting the late night show for another three years somebody. I sent a text saying great. I think I'll means I'll be in the show at least nine. But I think the record it's fifty something appearances on it's not because I'm a great guests. I'm nearby, homey. Well, your drops out because this will make him the longest running late night talk show out. I think with at three years of of the current people that are testing deadline. This will keep him hosting his twentieth season. Well, this Rabi of old. Well, he's he longest now. Anyway, right leg longer than Leno and. Well, think about it. I thought I thought Lennon was twenty three years or something like that we look into but they're dead line and make the longest neck something. And then a bonus plus Nicholson the twenty plus three years he left for ten minutes. Yeah. On the air for consecutively for different networks. Well, he's the longest running guy now 'cause yes long as everyone else's on the air. And he's on the interrupted. They'll never catch up to him. It was twenty. I was looking at it. Doubling down was looking at it. I was like on till so weird. How how old I am? But on till his contract extended for till two thousand twenty two and I was like fifty year contract. Two thousand twenty feels success. I had to do the math because three year with Stu thousand twenty two future. Logan's run now. Yes, he and this is us they're getting those three or contracts. Thirty years from the sixty of the nineties, right? I don't know Jack Parr, and then and then from yeah is this is the crying show. We all know it. I think we just got season one and two and people just like that's the American crimes. Exactly what it is. You're right. All right. We'll max paddle up. It describes it as breaking the record for the deadline said, and I believe this is deadline. His his show is the longest running late night talk show. But that's that's that's yeah. That's not the record longest running must be active then yet, but including Conan who is at all those shows it's like the nineties right now, it's barely manvier. Manby or with the man come on. So good news for Robert Kraft. A judge granted a request to block the release of that not safe for work video surveillance cameras in a positive cock block normally have such a negative connotation. But once in a while, there's a happy ending. Oh, happy happy. Happy cock block. And this is it. Yeah. Those those cameras were installed the orchids of Asia day spa reportedly captured Robert Kraft paying cash than receiving rub and tug prosecutors charged with solicitation prostitution remembered, not human trafficking, as we were originally led to believe I don't wanna get into semantics. But is there such thing as a tug and rub 'cause I feel like I could really enjoy my downtime my factory period. Like, my whole thing. If you've been physically a rub and tug I'd be lame. They're kind of on a needle what admitted eleven going for the door. Do I have to make a move to the? Doug. I in rub now, that's what I would like that makes way too much sense, how relaxed or your after you have the tug also like a happy, but not the ending. And there's no pressure and there's like what's going on. When we make the move and Wendy's kick in. Any of them? Massage. That's a great idea. I'm talking. Yeah. So he he wished to introduce the clips the prosecutor as evidence against the against craft s this never done the rub and tug the tug. And rub but Brian veer you're not a smokeless cigarette. Like, there's some byproduct there. How do we? We worked at who. You're talking about him. I've been Jim Jordan, probably dip Norton. It was Bill Nye the science. Oh, yeah. I one of those astrophysicist remarking how quickly the artist swooped in. And just got it all up in a towel and move right on. Yeah. Well, you know during season to the man show, we did manifestations invented the Bally's Ambani's. And we all know people think I'm kidding. No. I am not. Ed if organises playing done then. Okay. Meanwhile, there are rumors that these videos such thing I- in a world where everything right? You know that the ask ask it the toilet seat liner, sir. Kind of doughnut with the same material. You know, what I mean, just one home in the middle and. Like one of those priestly collars from the. Days. You know, what I mean just? Yeah. On the wall like on the wall in the in the rug. Pull it off into sort of slighted over dog cone. Yeah. Well them really dog cone. But it's like the same thing as they ask ask material the one hole in the middle. The dicky. Over. Yeah. The Dickie go over your, you know, Bip. Yeah. I'd say I'd say it's the same sort of size as the toilet seat liners just a hole in the middle. It's just you know, engine a corner put that on rips it off the wall and be like two and a half inches. Yeah. But you see here's the stay on Gina. This is going to be on shock tank next year. And it's. Well, I'm beer DASA. Ten percent for my quota half. I'd have a small medium large. But I don't wanna shame. Okay. I don't ashamed. All the guys know, look, I'm holding up in my fingers, and I'm a carpenter. I know well when I'm holding my thumb and forefinger is an inch and a quarter. Most people's honcker would make it through their generous the more you give outside of that. We're spillage the more spillage juris so purpose. I would say you'd rather keep it keeping tight you could make a little Cording action on that parts that had a little, you know, all the perforation tear for extra clean a world. Like anyone if you guys ever go look at an open house, that's an decent neighbor. It's like oh, put the booties. No. Pretty used to it. There is no different. They're shown. Rotate like those dining tables. What was it called lazy? Susan like, a relish dredge Doggett pointing on that rotates. And then. Perfection. I like that. Sorry. This guy had. Helfman? She broke down in a Boston courtroom on Monday and pled guilty for her part in the collagen mission scandal, she actress breaks down killed are. They really breaking down the piece of glass in the show, kind of summing tear, you know, that can cry like that. Shane they're professional cry. Very extreme ways to. That's my point. We would have to do that. We're not thespian. Yeah. We're not award profession where she can be like in a trailer screaming at our assistant that you're worthless. Khan, and then she can walk out and hug her fake special needs child and start crying on demand. Yeah. She's that good. So I don't trust her. Well, the judge might not trust or either because she admitted to paying fifty grand to have her daughters SAT scores boosted and through the tears. The actress revealed that her daughter has suffered from learning disabilities throughout her life. In a statement, Felicity said, this I am in full acceptance of guilt, and with regret and shame over what I have done accept full responsibility for my actions and will accept the consequences that stemmed from those actions. Prosecutors recommend autre have we seen much of her daughter. Laurie Auckland daughter. So he's everywhere. She's the big she's public figure entries, but he's a kid in college still has the college revoked admission or she well her specifically, I'm not sure, but a lot of those kids got frozen from the scandal. Unfailing those kids had they made they didn't it'll probably miners anyway. Well, or close to William H Macy was not there. The prosecutors recommended four months behind bars she's sentence. She'll be sentenced on September thirteenth. I don't care. Just I'm consistent. I this. I know we get in this whole class thing. These poor black guys delta dime, bag, whatever. Now, it's your turn. Whatever I've said the same thing about them. If you don't harm anybody. There's no physical salt is no property theft. There's no, I don't care society. Like if this person lived next door to you, would it impact your life at all answer be. No, then good no prison time. I don't want anyone incarcerated came Fazli. Yeah. Do something. This is all just a big deterrent right to break. These. I guess I would just if I were mossy mo- which is the husband of Laurie locking liner. My biggest beef wouldn't be what about. Fake in this or Photoshop and this or crew teams are scams or how did you get busted? I'd be like we it cost us five hundred grand. And she spent fifteen grand I were sitting the same fucking courthouse in the same school. How did this happen that she paid pennies on our wives are five hundred and hers team? There is I'm the victim whoever paid five hundred zero real victim. Because obviously for fifteen could've got the same thing for both in the same play. Like what kind of discount was going on? Let's when you go to the restaurant, you get the surface. Someone gets salad. I why did they pay five times as much the services are? All right. You can Photoshop for the crew team or they can have someone go and take the test with Ryan. And that explains the Cobb salad is six fourteen bucks and the surface, eighty bucks or whatever. And it's five times six times. Whatever I'm talking fifteen if I paid eighty five or oh five we wouldn't be having this conversation five hundred thousand dollar for what a fucking Photoshop session at the Y. Speaking of why why? You should be on council this ever happened. Like surreal victim here. Ladies in general. I just wanna see that family like that conversation happened in an Indian immigrant family for the kid comes back. I need five hundred grand to get into Harvard. And like no way, we might. If you have five hundred grand you have five hundred grand worth of tutors to get him in the regular way. Oh my God. I just talking to my daughter about my son is in like, I don't know the dummy classes, and that's a special needs. What it is. He doesn't care is that the problem is he doesn't care. So the only way you can get them to do people to do stuff. She got a shame shame. There's no stigma anymore because they don't call the dumb, people classes or. They don't win. When I would in those classes are anyone's that. There's a lot of stigma and a lot of shame. And you didn't do it. Now everyone's in the Dumbo class, and they're all forty pounds, overweight, and nobody cares anymore. Just like the dummy class. I. I care. So the problem is you guys don't live in joint families. That's what it is. The parents you have to worry about scarring your child, right? So but in India, we live in these big join families where it's your parents. But just like nineteen other people within the same compound who will be real with you. Who? He also like Indian on coups and aunts, and you're stupid. You know what I mean? Yeah. About this kid gloves in adjoin families, send them over. Pat Cash prize winner, and I'm like, well, I Brian. Christ. If that's your bar. You do podcast ball, Brian. I know, you know, shame. No shame a little shame. Shame goes a long way. All right. Let me tell you about stamps dot com. It'd be a shame. If he didn't get stamps that com. Save time for your small business. The hassle of the post office buying print Fischl US postage for any letter any package with your computer and printer and with stamps dot com. You get five cents off every first class stamp and up to forty percents off of priority mail. We it here we have the. The scale here because up to eighty pounds. It's a nice piece. It's not junkie. No wonder over seven hundred thousand small businesses use stamps dot com right now got a special offer our listeners get a four week trout plus postage and a digital scale. It's gotta stamps that com. 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She's forty four years old ten men see sparks fly Kate split with her husband and the Costa, of course, Jon incapable co-star in two thousand nine Kate bliss date debuts in June and she's been on. She's been on the apprentice she's been on with the SARS celebrity wife. Swap. She's she's making the rounds. I don't. We're not I don't believe anything. I see more. I used to love. Now, I used to believe God watch reality shows like, oh, that's what's. That's what's happening. But now, no moss. I don't have that feeling anymore. I love how you're innocent all this stuff on TV. And then you talk to us about marriages. Like, you know, we get kind of made fun of because we have a range manages. But that's literally every single American television program isn't episodic filmed arranged marriage. How do you see in the documentary? Meet the Patel's, I have great it is it really really shed some light on things that we do not understand as a culture. I've I've said from doing love line with Dr drew for so long. I've said I think an arranged marriage is a higher batting average in terms of longevity because people seek out the numbers folks that, you know, the daughter of the alcoholic Mary's the alcoholic abusive alcoholic that what is traction. You know, now, I wonder if dudes look it up mex- paddock gay marriage longevity. See dudes are the legal through. All the reams of data on that. Ream. All right. No bell. Here's how we work. Here's guys were. It's an aesthetic. There's like elements of mom and history and growing up, and if you're ritualistically Beuys bit for regular, dude, just like an aesthetic like I'm attracted to her and she's not a shrew ain't so she's marriage. Material. Women have many other components involved with the traction because really from there for them attraction is well beyond an aesthetic and into a whole fair, monal, psychological. Whatever ability and you make bad decisions based on someone being bad to you at some point or trying to fill something that can never be filled. The relationship never worked. If you took two dudes to dudes are probably just all find the best looking dude hilt find the best can do. We'll we'll come together. And and that lasts I work for a gay couple. They had separate bedrooms. They were they all live the dream live together west West Hollywood, you know, they probably only had about twenty four hundred square feet. But man, they. That separate bedrooms. I built Ron the head gay. I built him. I built him a bed. He said what you build one for John John's bad like, and I was like, I didn't know that's how were you guys just slept together. Ron his past. So get were together to the end. I do believe. So they broke up and Ron owned this really cool restaurant on the west side Colton muse from a million years ago, I used to work over there, but they have separate bedrooms. And there is no friction. How were they older an older couple because that seems to be more of a little bit? But yeah, it's a it's just a lower impact kind of relationship and obviously anecdotal, but I know a lot of couples a lot of gay straight. And there are plenty of gay couples male couples that are totally fine with kind of stepping out of the relationship, and there's all kinds of rules about it. And it's respected. It's fine. I don't know any female male couples that are fine with that an open relationship. Be out of town or we don't bring him here, whatever. And I know I know multiple couples that are, but I think that's a guy wiring, right? Yeah. I just think. With arranged marriages. I think it's just a higher batting average. For working out is insane. Is it sounds like you've never even met the person, you don't know the person. But better because when you pick yourself, so many people are so damaged that they make bad. And I think the ruling on that was when you first meet or for the first few years of the relationship. You're happier when you pick your own person, but that often ends in divorce, and it's the opposite with a range marriage where it's kind of weird at the beginning. And then it goes the distance to. I mean, at least the modern arranged marriages, and when I do show like a lot of Indians will be arranged marriages. But these a twenty five year olds or thirty year old. So it's not an archaic system of arranged marriage. That's brought them together. What they says. It's kinda cool because usually attraction will prevent you from making a good decision, especially within the female tikey, right? Here's a good guy. We are compatible. Here's all these qualities that I want, but this man is attractive. Let me go with this other man, right? I know people in range marriages who just purely compatibility and then five years into the arranged marriage. They're starting to fall in love with you know, it's kind of like a I don't know an Uber drive right in where some somebody else's driving destination. Selected yours in the back. Like, what is this button to how can I mess with this person? What are his particular eccentricities? I think that's kinda cool gets to say I fell in love with my wife or my husband like nine years after we got married. That's kind of cool because usually the other way around is usually the other way. Around over somebody else. Right. We have some data twenty seven percent of same sex marriages devolve dissolve and twenty eight percents of the same of heterosexual. So there you go. All people. Well, speaking of affairs in relationships in case, you're wondering if your relationship survive, an affair, maybe don't hear about the case breaking up as much. On man who gets the me out who gets about part. It's just we're talking about kids and houses assets. I'm sure they've other asset ask. Okay. So according to a new survey most relationships cannot survive in a fair, and it's funny. We were just talking about that. So we'll see if these numbers add up the survey of people admitted to cheating while in a committed relationship found that fifty four point five percent broke up immediately after the truth came out thirty percent, try to stay together. But they broke up anyway. And only fifteen and a half percent survive the affair whose job is this this like the fantasy rotate this. This. They're like this is what I have done. Calm. In may two thousand is is you have to go and talk to unhappy people per month and find out what split them. Dudes stepping out women still do that. It's not that yet they fair. So she live like that far. But also, the affair. Yeah. But also the fair this even says, oh well over half, the people the second it came out that they had the affair. They were out of the door. So if you run back home ago got I did something I'm so feel guilty. You're not gonna survive that one. Yeah. And then women always do that thing where they go. And I can't believe you pick Nancy from the officer something, and it's like, well, what am I supposed to leave the country? Like who would I be having an affair with? That would be okay with you. You know what? I mean. It's gotta be a neighbor. It's of course, it's one of your friends or it's your sister. Somebody. The wells really gonna be I wish I could bang total strangers outside of the country. But I can't I'm not up today electric put it covets see every day, by the way, I have never heard this phrase before and it is so lame. Have you guys ever been like on a plane going to a bachelor party and heard the phrase wheels up rings off the hell now? Thing you've ever heard. Yelled wheel. I obviously wheels up a million times off. Now, that's the part. I was in lake havasu doing a man show pet and big guy named Doug got drunk who worked with us any kept saying, we're driving Fatos from have sue. And he kept yelling wheels up like four AM Icho, bursting everyone's yelling wheels up. So I have a little bit of. Be here. Predated the rings off or not everyone had a cell phone or something something like that. My flight hill for this on Amazon this eight three eighty where they have like a little boss action hang double decker hub. And there was a bachelor party on that. There was just plain. Coming late guy got arrested as soon as he landed like they opened the door and I saw like FBI agents and like six cops. And apparently this guy got fresh with one of the hostesses like I think three hours into the flight, and then was handcuffed foot thirteen hours. Our flight from Dubai to LA just sitting there in handcuffs thirteen hours landed FBI got him and just took him away. And then I saw the FBI agent. Wait, just kind of take this guy away. And then come back and be like, nobody does other guys in this bachelor party. So then they wouldn't got these other four guys. And I guess they will drug tested and that whole thing happen. But they will there's a legit party happening. Wow. Did you hear them or see them? Did it seem like out of control? I mean, I was Brown and have a Bill to an FBI and just went back to my seat. Not inquisitive nature. There was no curiosity. I just kind of asked one of the else's. What happens is like he misbehaved. And there was a marshal on the plane. The sat him down. I misunderstood international flight. Oh crap where you able. But during the flight, you're able to go up to you, can you can go to the ball. And these guys, you know, I mean, the second seatbelt sign came off these guys with dad drinking champagne, and you knew it was four or five guys headed for ROY strip. Right. But I think so the wolf of Wall Street. And that was what happened? So funny, the three eighty that's the new double decker because when I was a kid that a seven forty seven and that had the second smaller one spouse, but had the pub there back in the seventies people hanging around the plans video game. Yeah. All right. Let's bring it home. Gina grad. And that's the news wheels up rings off. Oh, you said rings off. I meant rings like ring like shut your phone. Betting ring of good, boys. Yeah. I thought she meant no cell phone. Oh now that that part of the Totani pictures don't document this. Take the wedding. We're not advertising marriage. Let me tell you about Castrol edge, heat, friction viscosity breakdown. Rob your engine and maximum performance. Friction results in loss of performance up. The ten percent Castrol edge engineered with fluid. Titanium technology physically transforms under pressure. Three times wheels up range off times stronger discussing right down and leading full synthetic oils. 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Great new names, I love Jonathan Chichibu name Mussa Lonnie list goes on and on the British off. Ferguson. The top the leaderboard for us and NFL or name sports. Name the debris cash off for the most sort of like on the nose describing. But I also. Feel like his mom was going for that brick Ishii. She wasn't you know, she didn't think she was gonna get an accountant. She wanted a rugged a rugged individuals to British ause at the top of my professional sports players list. But in terms of civilians, Doug DeLuca going to school with a gal name net Chila. I don't feel in the civilian department in the class we have different categories classmate category. There's on TV category of professional sports category. Nut Chila Chila. Can't beat new Chila. How does one spell that? I'm trying to imagine it. I'm surprised that we signed off as a society on apostrophes in names thing weird. In the realm of Doug DeLuca and people of color. I'll never forget Doug DeLuca is a pies on from Long Island, or whatever he he's a fun guy. But anyway, he did work for the black circus. There was something. There's something called the black circus, and he worked as a active or something for the black circus for a number of years and Jeff Ross one day when we're talking about Doug DeLuca going to work for the blacks circus. He said, oh, you mean the greatest show on earth? We laugh. Jeff Ross joke. Jeff rosca. All right. They Seattle Seahawks. Have new safety. You ready for this one? Go ahmadi. Ooh. Tanja your question. My favorite name combined with face in pro football history is owed assist drunk ball with that big food main chew. He with those those sad is that he had on something Otis as stroke. Otis sister was bald when bald meant something. Yeah. Right. And they're great. They're great. Great footage like an also Otis. He would play and it'd be there were no domes in his head, which esteemed. Yeah. Ryan off Otis systems. Head Gary behind the glass. Otis this from the vest that would be my personal favorite the weird paradox of buckets, whether or not that's a cool name or weird one to have for one of the most fearsome guys in NFL history. Can you pull up Joey Bosa because as I say about Joey Bosa ace, and I want you to get a look at them and see if you agree the Los Angeles chargers high end defensive end Sastre on the other side of Melvin Ingram. Another great Joey Bosa looks exactly like what somebody named Joey Bosa should look like at a motor that kid. By the way, I about big noses Joey Bosa has one of those. But he definitely looks like a guy would be named Joey Bosa. I like in terms of pass rushing Outside Linebackers or defensive ends. I would hope that everyone had a motor. If I pay seven million dollars order back. It's always code. You don't hear motor when it's applied to to a black, man. It's always a white guy who has a high motor. That's the thing. There's Joey Bosa. Yeah. Joey could he have been named Vic maybe would be acceptable Bosa, certainly. Yeah, he's his name couldn't be Seth. That's for. Sure now. But it could be a Chad Bosa interesting, so okay, Ugo Ahmadi is one but then from the world hockey get a load of this one Kappa Kako. Acco woke aggo in the last five years. Amadi and Capito Kako her right? Why you can never call. What team does Capito Kako? I'm not sure exactly. I know he plays. I became aware of him. Because someone dropped me a line to make me aware. I think he's an international kid at this point. I think it's like a nineteen year old Swede or fin on the national. I'm one of those kind of teams. Yeah. You could never call one of their games. Finish. You couldn't call a game with Campo caq because lie because it'd be fine when he was on the ice, even then on the ice there'd be one guy handling the puck going down the middle. And you'd be like Capela Kako following the play Cafo Kako. He's disley. What's his no scored but cap carrying name guy. But is there to greet him and high five oh now Capela Kako Zoff the ice? He's watching intently look at Campo Kako on that, wait a minute. He's going for Gatorade. Squeeze bottle cap Kako. Now, he's standing up to recognize someone in the crowd. I don't know what's going on the ice. But cap Kako Capela Kako appears to be moving towards twelve zero route to guy named Hiroto to I don't know Ugo Ahmadi or Capela Kako are as good. I leave it to you to make a decision a couple of years ago. I really am. Not sure I don't know if he's done with his eligibility UCLA freestyle some more time. So so Jamaa. Oh, so soja Mahba. What's this sport football running back? I think he may be let's say a mall and Dave damage cheque's. And I'm close gase. Whatever here, we got actually hit it, Gary. Really? Yeah. Amadi? Capela kako? Guy. I don't know. I think that makes the case that's almost unfair to poor Google Ahmadi. But you can't stand up against now. That's an original film. I like so so. Through life. Dylan's got a big nose hot chick entry. Yeah. I mean, we got a couple here. Now, look there plenty there's plenty of dudes. Like, I mean, there's plenty of plenty. And plenty of big schnauzer studes. I mean, what's his name? God Liam Niessen is like guys considered super hands. Got a big old Shah, right? Where the female ones, we got Oma Houma Thurman. That's a big nose. I it's funny. I've always said she that is one about ten fifteen years ago. I felt like the entire universe. Fellas was in on all of whom was the goal to to me. I never that was always lost on me for some reason tall blonde built well super attractive kicks a lot of ask that as well. But I know she has a unique knows. But this big. Know, you're talking about beak you're talking about a honker you wanna speak. Yeah. Penelope cruz. I was thinking about Penelope mouth. What about cat? Deng's cat dinning come on significant never got past or tits. Go gene kits back Ashini up. Again. It's like, you know, when you get in a Vegas Otell. That elevator doesn't go to the twenty-seven floor. You gotta get. That's how I am a cat denting inner tips, I just go just go up and down the elevator that gets their face. I elevated. Nice quilt quick little punctuation there. Listen, I think we've covered it all today. Well, no Dylan Ren says otherwise be contentious. But Tom Brady's wife has Shaw's. That's a good one. Can I say if it's well defined like sort of pointy and has a purpose to it. We'll we'll give it a pass. It can't be just sort of schnauzer. The key is the sort of big nose and glasses schnauzer versus the sort of angel fish NAS this streamline what viable Brits break it down. Just the next hour get into that. This is just the start of the conversation. This is not punctuated by a sniff and and end of conversation. 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BONUS: Inside the Super Bowl Circus

The Lead

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BONUS: Inside the Super Bowl Circus

"Yeah so it's Super Bowl weekend and that means that the host city Miami. Amy is a full-blown Madhouse. And so we decided to send at my trusty co host could beat the down to check it out and you know to go to the game on Sunday so today a on the lead. We're going inside the super bowl circus from wondering and the athletic. I'm under SCELZO. It's Saturday February. First and this is is the lead it felt like something great was something of emotion and in the past because I love. This isn't a story rear view. The athlete it stays with hair beat the Davidson host of the lead. Every day we strive to bring you compelling sports stories from around the world and we couldn't make that happen without the amazing local national reporters orders at the athletic here on the lead. We can only bring you one story a day but the athletic can keep you up to date on all the teams and leagues that you care about their. There are no ads. Pop ups or Click Bait just great sports writing that digs deep into the story behind the story get exclusive player profiles deep dives lives on analytics team power rankings and fantasy sports insights from our team of more than four hundred writers each subscriber gets a personalized feed of daily stories on your team's live. QNA's with your favorite writers original podcasts and more subscribe to the athletic for less than three dollars and fifty cents per month go who the athletic dot com slash the lead thirty. That's the athletic dot com slash. The lead thirty to start reading today are either. So where are you right now. I am in my the hotel on South beach just about two blocks from the beach and it's really lively down here man. There's like music and a lot of hogging a lot of traffic And a lot of people here for the super title and you've been spending a lot of time on radio row. I can you just explain what exactly that is. Radio row. Is this beautifully chaotic. Nick place with like five hundred just hundreds of local and national radio stations mostly doing live shows and they booked former players. They book celebrities. They book other athletes come their shows but they also just like you're just pulling people who were just walking around like you're just walking around like Derrick Henry passes by you know Super Bowl. Week is pretty a chaotic and radio row is is really indicative of that so yeah I mean it. It's the type of place where you do just bump into all sorts of people and I hear that you chatted with former super bowl champ and noted eccentric Martellus Bennett. Please tell me how that went Yeah Martellus Bennett. Former Titan won a super bowl with the Patriots is just a really interesting eccentric. Guy Retired in two thousand eighteen while he was on a spiritual retreat in Japan and basically said that like it opened his mind to the fact. That football wasn't making him happier fulfilling him but he also added that he's never really been a big fan of actually watching football. Wash worth really don't like I'm a reader okay. So a lot of retired athletes that actually the I've never watch sports play. I'm and I like to play the game to wash game. It seems silly and then even even watching now I was like what the Hillary doing out. There it's just so crazy that people are out there run into each other like that. Why don't you already collected those checks? Man I'll click the chicks still thinking these things and one of those guys now. Every time I finish my why about doing this is all right so clearly. He's not GONNA be watching the game on Sunday and it sounds like that was a a common theme among a bunch of the players that you bumped into. Yeah I talked to Saquon Barkley star running back for the giants And he said if you did watch he'd watch on his TV but he he probably won't. You're not going to watch the Super Bowl If I do watch I might watch it on TV. I would never actually go to the go home Monday. Wake up lift because I was and I talked to. Joey Bosa La Charger and older brother of forty niners rookie. Nick Vosa playing on Sunday. Joey said that he doesn't usually really like to watch playoff football. Either usually avoiding watching football because it just puts me in a bad mood. I'm honestly I don't watch any playoff football when it comes around because like I said I'm not it doesn't make me happy to watch teams play. What I wish shows does plan but to wait? So does this mean that. He's not gonNA be watching his brother. Nick play on Sunday. I think this might be the exception. Okay all right. Well you did run into to one guy who is definitely going to the game. Yes so Marlins van was there and I. I don't know why we expected anything else Marlins man is a I believe he's a lawyer And he's just a really big sports fan for Miami and he just shows up at hundreds of like major sporting events wearing bright orange. Miami marlins gear so he was at the Super Bowl and he claims that he's been to twenty seven of these twenty seven super bowls. And this'll be my twenty eighth and when the playoffs started I wanted to teams. I was opening the Kansas City would make or San Francisco. I never thought they both would do it. I will twenty seven super bowls. Which one is your favorite? That's a great question Super Bowl three. It changed history. That's the one where the colts played in Miami against John. Amos jets the colts also in one thousand nine hundred. He was at Super Bowl three. so He's been going to these things for like fifty one years. I have my doubts man. I found an interview from two thousand seventeen in where he also said he'd but to twenty seven super bowl so it might just be a number that he that sticks. He's in the time warp. All right so I assume zoom there're also tons of fans from both teams all over the place down there. Yeah lots of chiefs fans Definitely a lot of niners fans as well the chiefs fans were a little bit louder. Most of the places is that I wet and I spoke with this. Chief's fan named Danny in the clevelander. which is the bar on South beach when that's actually where I ran into Sikwan Joey Bosa But I talked to this. Chief's fan named Danny the clevelander and he was. He was pretty nervous about the game. I'm pretty nervous. Honestly how are you. Oh handling those nerves with this modell. Am I right hand right now. It's working for me. That's about right all right. So any other athletes or celebrities. That you've had interesting conversations with down there. Yeah you know. I talked to Steven Jackson journeymen NBA Player. He had some really really poignant things to say about. Kobe and Steven Jackson talked about where he was when he heard about Kobe. I was at home on on facetime with my my younger brother. Trying to get some secrets to chili recipe and I was making Chili and My phone's vibrating and vibration vibrating and I don't uh normally don't get twenty messages. At one time I looked at one and Somebody said Israel and Click back checking my phone click again as I said I imagine. tevi troy is Kobe is this happened to Kobe. The and I just screamed. Kobe was like A walking God to me. I didn't think anything could happen to him so to hear that I went into the shack. Shut down for two three days and I honestly still don't believe it. I still feel like you know is is not real but I just feel sorry for for his family and other families because a situation like that you know you never know if you'll come back from it and have there been other outward displays of support for Kobe down there. I mean I imagine it's on a lot of people's minds eight. It comes up a lot and I. I was talking about this with some other writers at dinner the other day. And there's this kind of prevailing sense that this is going to be the super bowl that's remembered for being overshadowed by Kobe's death everyone's wondering what tribute we're definitely not attribute of some kind to him at the halftime show and during the game. Probably at the beginning. It'll be interesting to see but yeah people are definitely talking about it here. All right and any last Interesting tidbits are stories to sure. Well you know the sports betting conversation comes up a lot and I was talking to Darren. Rebel and Chad millman from the action network. A couple of old school sports business heads. You know just talking about the more absurd Bets that happened around the Super Bowl and the one that always happens every year is what color the gatorade will be. That is poured on the wooden coaches head and told me an interesting argument. About why the Gatorade it would be clear the trainers when it comes to the gatorade not in life but when it comes to gatorade are inherently lazy and they want to do the lease work they can and when it comes to the gatorade orange and clear require no mix the colors at that mass level require a powder mix so they don't want to start they just want to get it out in the canisters and move on with their day so clear or orange and then Darren rebel was weighing in with what he thinks. Eggs is the odds-on pick red is the favourite which is weird because in the past seventeen years since people will pay attention to read is never been dumped on the winning coach. But obviously it's the the The colors teams and yesterday purple was the least favorite and someone on twitter mentioned. They were going to do it for Kobe. And now purples both the favourite. So that's another way in which Kobe was on people's minds are at the well have fun down there. Enjoy the game and We'll check in with you afterwards. Thanks man should be fun facial listening. Everyone enjoy the game as well and we'll see on Monday

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Producer Bill's PITCH IT ON THE PODCAST without PITCH(ing) IT ON THE PODCAST!

Johnjay & Rich: After Words

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Producer Bill's PITCH IT ON THE PODCAST without PITCH(ing) IT ON THE PODCAST!

"It's a great time to get a great deal on a new car when you get approved for an auto loan from Penn Fed our powered by truecar rates as low as one point three, nine percent APR new vehicles finance for a longer term to lower your monthly bill plus take up to sixty days to schedule your first payments join Penn Fed and together we'll keep you moving forward. Anyone can apply visit Tampa dot org slash auto or call one, eight, hundred, two, four, seven, five, sixty, six to perceive any advertise product you must become a member of pen veg insure by anyway. You got to list or afterwards podcast in in this afterward, podcast producer bill wants to know who the girls would catch jerking off camera. Really. Kind of a weird late bills going around a weird fantasy. That's what happens in this podcast. So it was kind of mature and then we are going to get to a segment we want to do but then we don't do it because for legal reasons. That's going to be furling. So that's our afterwards podcasts. It's the show after the show. About the show. John. Gene Rich present afterwards suggests rolling. It's time for PODCAST podcast producer bill in here to pitch on the podcasts correct bill I have so much stuff for you. Your cows. pod. Sorry I just had a bite of the most ginormous grape I've ever seen. Graves. THOSE COSCO grapes no now fries. Yeah. What are you GonNa Pitch on the PODCAST. So much stuff I have so much stuff to pitch on the PODCAST One of them I need audio clips. So we're waiting on those from Joey Bosa ready will love the that are you do you have the audio on? Okay. Until then until he gets audio? Yes or no? No, we're not. Okay. So so that's that's what I'm GonNa Pitch but there was there was something that I thought would be found the new story with this Jeffrey Toobin Guy. From. CNN. Okay. So this guy. is on a zoom call. Okay. So he's he's on there with his colleagues and then they to take a break. and. So he thinks this Jeffrey Toobin Guy, he thinks that. His video is off in his Mike is Muted and he decides to take another call which was. A phone sex call variety. And then he starts whacking it. Oh, right there. Somebody cuddled and even move away like the laptop or phone camera doesn't like I mean, it's not a wide screen shot. He doesn't even just like slightly move over I. Feel like he must have known he wanted everyone what happens. He says, he doesn't know a the people on the on the on the call on zoom call acted like they didn't know. Anything was happening and then someone took a screen shot, but this is so the guy's suspended. So many things that that we can talk about with this guy But I was I was thinking. All right. So let's say the judge, Henry Show our zoom call. All nine of us on a zoom call. So question for Kyle and Suzanne and Delaney. Can you please rank in order I'll hound the men on the judge and Richaud which ones would be most likely to just start husking the corn. In Ball. And thinking that they're not on the call oath either not on the number one is obviously John, Jay John would be I. Agree. Yes. All the time and then he's not very good with technology. Exactly. Choice. Across Delaney I'm. Tour. Okay now, number two is where things get a little. Things get a little bit. I swear. I mean I totally agree upon embarrassed. Voted for to vote number two as well. There are in fact. Getting sightings that'd be like because here's the thing too about that. See is CNN reporter. Yeah. So so he was with his colleague so I mean, so he's jerking off that means he's got suspended someone turned him in like he got in trouble like I would think if it was nine of us and I caught and I was like I took a call and I start jerking off, you guys would be like dude. And I'd be like Oh my God. Please don't tell anybody in. We'd be cool. That means something when you guys betray me her. That's where I think is interesting who on the show would betray? Shot you guys we could. Yeah like I would be John J then of course, grant and probably bill maybe Joey then I think it's a tie between rich and nick last. That would put nick left. I Dunno richest very shy like he doesn't even want to like have shirt offer shorts on around anyone even like yeah. So He's all fours anal. Spread Open. A hotel. I say survey around the room who would betray the show member who turned into A screen shot and turn it in and be like. Look you happen John He, needs to be removed immediately. What happened somebody turned into CNN Guy Right? If you're five nine colleagues, well, it's you know that that's the debate right now did the guy do something wrong? Is it sexual harassment? Well. That's an interesting wrong. She took a phone call, right? So it's not it wasn't like a paid like he wasn't jumping on like porn or something like that. He took a phone call phone call got sexual right with somebody who's dating or seeing or something, and then it turned into what it turned into the are could he sue them for spying on him during the break? No. Because he entered the zoom call as a work meeting at that point you. Yourself as if you are at work in a meeting other breaks down on some calls that long of a meeting yeah. They do that like in some school sessions to by the way I don't think anybody would. Betray me because if I got caught doing that, let's on Wednesday get caught on zoom zoom coffee. We all after as is often it would make fun of me. If he got dramatic, it probably show content the next day. So I'd throw myself onto the bus I might take I might take a screen shot just to have that face like. Small you can't even see. Fisted. Of His. Garage. By. Even zoom. Zoom. Now. Kyle ranking number three, three third ranked me number third. Yes. racy number three, number three because we already have seen your erection. That's true. Yes. But I don't always take care of it. No but that's the only reason why. You're. Either yeah, yeah you got me down his three is that. I agree with list Delaney three three. Again with the grand. Place. What else is going on? Joyce's audio in. One of them is. There's only one is another to. Rock pre. What is there one or two? Wrong Now there's to there's the original version and then my version. I see your version I don't see rich shaking said very violently right now. It's all right. So why does that I can tell you that I went the other day to get my son, some golf clubs. Day before yesterday these custom golf clubs. and. It takes ten, ten, fourteen days again done and they called me yesterday of the clubs are done Whoa Whoa. Wow they get done so fast well, they she texted over a word that I see all the time, but I really do not say it be spoked. nope. I'M GONNA say it and I'm I'm probably a Gamble I'm right. By said, she said. You were put an Aq-, faster. Thank you comedian to put in the queue fats whatever's Donald Smiley face something and so we got done fast. So she said and then she goes when you come pick them up, is it okay if our social media team meets you So they put on social media whatever right sells like yeah, that's fine and so we're GONNA, pick them up today, but there's just so much going on today. Sidonie, exactly like I'm GONNA. Be. stressed out already because. When we went and got golf club that was like a three and a half hour process and I'm hoping to pick up the golf clubs. It's not that long right because it should be she said, right like, are you picturing a what if they have to come in and then test every club again? Yeah. Because it's wanted to go and get the clubs and open a mobbing Oh. My God is amazing because in an apart- town by three or two different parts of town. And got to resign his. Walk Through van. Exciting Is Jake pumped really pumped. Really. But now have this feeling that I'm gonNA. Be. Golfing. Hey. It's a good time of year to get into it because at least it's just really nice outside hanging out with the kids. That's cool. Week. We golf all the time during the summertime I mean. I'm not I. Mean I only cough with my kids but He loves to Gulf JOEY GOT him. No. Minor. That's what I was saying. I thought audio. Do what we were hoping. We can play yours though. This guy other stuff in it music. I wonder if it leads to people come together if it's cool. I don't know if it's. If it's considered to be a parody. Now now. Okay. Well. So we should have played it if I fifty what just pitch. Because should off the land catch. Win. So. Do it. We thought this might be funny. You. Yes we just do it. It's five fifty at eight twenty. I WanNa hear your story unless that's the three three unless we do this this, this is a three two three. Four next week. Fine for three to three. Yeah. The Strip for three to three right now. But we. Also podcast. nope. Inside talking. PODCAST. Doesn't matter now. Here's. Here's why it doesn't work as a thirty three hour because Halloween right No? No no no. No because. If if this works if this pitch works then there's more coming, there's more to it, and so if you record it as a three than, let's just make it not work and then there wouldn't be coming and then it would work. Well, that's. Configured this. was my idea it's going to work. Okay. Let's go come on now. Joey was still only have the one version. Just, the one. He said there's only one version. Okay. It's just one look at his face look at his. There's more but they just have to be created and I think Joey's waiting to find out if this is going to be a bit or not. But anymore. Why go to all that work? If this is going to be a failed bid got it. Fresh. Frankfurt. Am I right or wrong I'm I. Think I'm reading Joey's face and I think that's what he's saying frustrated like why would I make anymore if this is going to fail because then I would have just wasted all that time Gilan in. The Promo podcasts as you can't play audio that belongs some copyrighted audio, right but bills record audio we could play it has music behind it does it does. Any kind of music, right? Okay. All right. So we'll wrap up the podcast them. Let's. Let's do it. Let's do your bit live on the air today or tomorrow morning. Okay. Let's do it at eight twenty. Okay. Because there's a reason why okay. All right cable do your bit at eight twenty and then we'll do kyle bit right now or three, two three. Still Okay. That's the podcast hit. That means I'm leaving a whole lot. It's a great time to get a great deal on a new car when you get approved for an auto loan from. 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Barstool Rundown - October 8, 2019

Barstool Rundown

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Barstool Rundown - October 8, 2019

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Better Rivals Bonus: SB Nation Mock Draft

Niners Nation

17:52 min | 1 year ago

Better Rivals Bonus: SB Nation Mock Draft

"Hey listeners we're in the heat of one of the greatest sports events of the year. You guessed it March madness. And the best place to stay on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage. CBS sports HQ, what is CBS forte q. It is the free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans. Just like you from nonstop highlights to news and analysis. CBS sports HQ got you covered checkout. CBS sports HQ. It is always on always free not to pay subscription fee or have an expensive cable package. Download the CBS sports app on your phone fire TV Roku or apple TV start watching today. Welcome to the Niners nation dot com. Better rival podcast. My name is Oscar operate and this week. It is a bit of a bonus episode not a regular episode. But in fact, something a little different from the norm. We have a special guest with us this week. Kyle Posey new editor of matters nation dot com. And we're going to talk a little bit about the Espy nation mock draft Kyle. How's it going do? Oh, man. How about you? How are you doing? I'm doing swimmingly. But let's talk a little bit about what the hell you're doing here. And let's talk about this mock draft a bit because it's the espionage in mock draft we were able to pick a player, and now we're gonna talk a little bit about it. But for we get to that. I kinda wanted to let the folks know who you are why you're the editor of Niners nation and kind of wear what your background was. Yeah. I mean as great obviously, a lot of guys have no idea who I am. I came out of the blue. But I mean, I've been around just the football community for quite a while. I in two thousand and thirteen was my very very first start introduction Espy nation on the. Chargers website. So as I was pretty pretty heavy into the chargers stuff, but I'm always been in drafts. And watching other teams the NFL watching free agents in so when this position opened up foods decided to move on a one of the the head guys reach out to me and said, hey, man, why don't you you're interested in writing about the Niners? So just went their whole interview process in just sound like it was a good matchup really liked with the forty Niners are gonna do. They like, you know, some things I'd be able to go maybe more of a football Centric site. So that's where we're at right now. We're just kinda roll with the punches as goes now. Of course that stated for Chila he was the longtime editor of Niners nation. He started the the board really back in the days before I got acquired by SP nation. And and I'm glad that he is he's a friend of mine, we we've hung out a few times. And I'm glad that he's gone to better to bigger and better things. But it was it was a little interesting having a chargers fan a reform charges fan. We'll call it come over and tackle some of the Niner stuff. So what how? Are you going to manage, you know, dealing with your own wrongness on a daily basis? How are you going to manage that? So it's perfect because in two thousand sixteen one of my favorite players in the draft was deforest Buckner, and I actually had Buckner rated higher than Joey Bosa which was probably wrong. But still I think that that's probably accurate. Now, it feels so good to be on the right side of. Always finding the silver lining. Cal. I like it. I like it a lot. Well, this Espy nation draft project. It really is just kind of a mock draft with all this nation sites where we get to pick a player, and it goes in order. So the Arizona Cardinals pick I and they picked Cuyler Murray. So then we get to pick second. And there were no trades. I think that was one of the criteria for the mock draft. And so with the second overall pick Kyle who did the forty Niners pick, right? So no trade. You gotta stand Pat. And this is pretty easy for me. And there's some there's some really good players in the draft. But before I was going to take Nick both just because that is the best player available for the best fit and complements everybody else the best. So it just makes too much sense to pass on new Bose layer. So I think on obviously, if you've listened to our show, you know, that that probably if we had to stand Pat at two and Bosa was there at two he's the pick. You got a lot of fans saying that Quinn them Williams, though is best player available. You go at best player available. Why didn't you go with someone like when William's question? I think the world of Quin Williams, by the way, I think he's going to be very good. And I also think that just a duo of him and Buckner would be deadly. But also think that going it just gives you a little bit more flexibility, and you have Buckner. So you already have a dominant inside force. You have speed coming off the edge and both isn't speed. But he's not like pure power either. He's just a little bit of everything in now. That's what it just gives. You that consistent edge threat opposite of default. So he just made a lot of sense. He's just a really really good football player in the type of consistency that the forty Niners need on defense. You know, I to think that couldn't Williams is probably going to be a fantastic prospect. But when I look at the the positional value that edge gets you the ability to get to the Pasha from the edge edge pressure is a little bit more valuable than interior pressure. When you look at its effect on the game. Both of those players. I think would be good. I think if both of weren't there, then Clinton Williams would have been the pick. But you look at someone like Nick Boza, and he has all of the. Things that you want out of a prospect coming into the NFL he has production. He's got the physical traits that you want and he plays a position that's a little bit more valuable than than Clinton Williams. I mean, his production and his ability to dominate tackles at the collegiate level was I mean, he's just so technical. That's the word that kept jumping the mind when I would watch tape on him is he's such a technician he would cleanly win and cleanly defeat blocks regularly. And he did it with hands that it was inside move to do with outside moves. And it's that kind of stuff that thing that I think projects really well to the NFL, and I think it's going to give the forty Niners are pretty dominant defensive line one that can help them close out games. Yeah. It's not just him being consistent like him consistently winning. I think it's him consistently winning so fast. He's always one to buy. That's what it seemed like he was always getting past guys in a hurry and the quarterback how to get rid of his lot sooner than he wanted to. And that's exactly what you look for in in defensive end. So coming off the edge. Yeah. He's going to be a he's gonna be pretty tough to stop at the next level. Charles MacDonald did a really good piece where he talked. He talked to the different prospects on the edges pashas instead of what's your favorite Goto move. And I think Nick Bose's was that the kind of double hand sweep where he just completely moved the tackles hands off of his body and allows him to get around the edge or do what he wants to with those tackle. So I think if the Niners end up with his pick it'll be fantastic. But then the next question that lots of fans are not going to have is. Okay. Then maybe deforest Buckner. You know, what what do you do where do they line up? Right. That's the question. It's like well where does he four lineup. Does he play as he play whatever I think fans that have listened to the better rivals podcast know, that we don't really think it matters all that much because you play seventy percent of your defensive snaps nickel. But I I I'd love to hear your take on it. Where would you ally? Now, the pieces at the forty Niners have on the defensive line. So what what comes to mind and me when we ever talk about defenses third downs. That's. All that I care about. I don't care. What's going to happen on I intend because the majority of time like you mentioned they're going to be in these passing situations probably upward SU seventy percent of the time. So what I what I think this does is it just gives you more flexibility. It gives you the ability to have Bosa Ford Buckner all lineup on the same side of the center, which is pretty dangerous, and you're gonna get a one on one situation in somebody's probably going to win. So that's that's what I look at it. Like, just the the ability to be a lot more creative on defense than you could with Quinta Williams who again, we I think we both agree is going to be really good. But both just allows you to do more. Was there any other player that you considered taking second overall knowing that Murray went I just just quitting Williams? Honestly, I do think they are going to be some very productive edge rushers that are, you know, after both of, but I just think that he's technically technically speaking like you mentioned his. Hands. You're not supposed to be as proficient with your hands. As he is he to be able to have not only go to move. But to be able to counter off what officer tackles can do just or what your initial move is a lot of guys can't do that for him to already have those type of moves pretty impressive. And that's why I went with him at number two. What about you? Would you go in a different direction her who else? Would you give thought to at number two? I think at this point. I I really wouldn't give thought to anyone else. I think the other person that's buzzing in this area. If you've been following the forty Niners is Josh Allen. And I think Josh Allen similarly will probably end up having a a decent enough career. But Derek class ended a really good breakdown of him for football, outsiders, where he outlined a lot of the same concerns that I've got with him, which is that he does win at a really high rate. And I think that there's something to be said for winning at a higher rate at the NFL or in college winning at a high rate, full stop. I think is important to note, but at the NFL level, I think you've got to have. More than one way to win. And Josh Allen has one way to win which is with speed to the outside. And then he can he can win in the NFL that way, but when you've got tackles who are super athletic, and we're going to pass at him in a way that's going to cut that off. What does he have is a counter he can develop a counter shore? But he didn't show that in college. And we know that if you do something while in college the chances of you doing being able to do that consistent Llewellyn the pros only increases, and so when you look at someone like Bosa his ability to do all of these things right now means that he's probably not gonna have a problem transitioning to the pros. Maybe Josh Allen will. And maybe you know, when you go against more athletic players. He's not gonna be able to get around the edges frequently. And so that's probably why I wouldn't consider him because I do think Clinton Williams is a better all around prospect along the interior because Williams isn't just good interior guy. He's like one of the best interior prospects to come out in the draft in in a while in a very very long while probably since maybe Dominic ensue. At this point. So so that's probably why would only really consider those two players and Josh Allen is just kind of a tier below considering their no-trade downs. Because I I would love to be able to trade my way into a lot of picks. Would you say that the recent draft picks just the recent investments would hold you back from, you know, considering Williams even stronger because I I actually totally agree. I think that Williams is very very good. And man buck Buckner is really good as well. But if not, you know, if not for maybe the last couple of picks, a hassle be sitting in your mind there. But again, we he's he's obviously he's a said you don't have to watch fourteen games to understand it. He's really really good. I think that's a really good question. And I'll tell you Kyle went I I like before I watched any tape on Clinton Williams. The thought of drafting another interior linemen another three technique that could maybe rush the passer from the. Inside it made me physically sick. It was like odd. Again, really come on. This is this is now four years in a row where you're going to throw resources at this defensive line. And it's not like last year last year the defensive line did well, but it's not like it was a a world stopping defensive defensive line. But man after I watched some tape of Williams, I just I got more and more convinced that he could really help this team along the interior. I don't think it's much of a concern go to draft Williams because I think that you need a rotation on defense. And I think this team really values the front seven as the thing that makes her defense go more so than I think the secondary, and you can take issue with that. But I think that's just what the team believes. And so I don't think it's a problem at all. I do think if they were to take Williams it's a little bit of an admission that's almond Thomas probably isn't going to pan out. But it's better to admit. You're wrong decision and move on than it is to hold onto that wrongheadedness for for too long. Just just out of stubbornness. So I wouldn't mind it wouldn't. Give me pause, but but that's just because of the type of project Williams's, but let's let's not make this show. Let's just one more thing about Bosa if you'd identify what your favorite thing was about watching poses tape. What would that be probably just hands? And the one thing that I gravitate towards in. Why am more out than in on? Josh Allen is because I do believe that you have to have you have to be able to use your hand, you have to be able to counter off of whatever move that you're trying to do. And it's going to take you know, guys at aren't able to that just win one way. It's going to take them longer to adjust Lauren longer to get used to the game. So for me, it was pretty simple Bosa is just proficient with his hands. And not a lot of guys are that are coming out. And there's a reason that he's gonna go this highs because of that so him him being that good with his hands tells me that he's going to be really good early on in the NFL, which matters. How are you? You know, for me, it really is his ability to adjust to what the tackle is presenting to him. I think that's a really difficult thing for players to do on the fact that he's exhibited that ability early on in his collegiate career is really promising for his projection to the next level because it's difficult. I think for for pass rushers to have a move in their head and then on the fly think. Nope. He's setting a little too deep for me to actually run outside. I'm gonna counter inside and Bosa showed the ability to do that on a film repeatedly. And that's really really exciting because it means that he's likely to project. Well, it's why he's clearly the best pass rusher in this class. And I think it's why he's going to be if drafted for the forty Niners. A fantastic addition to this team and one that's going to allow the Niners to do like, you said some really creative stuff because you could overload Armstead and Buckner and Bosa over to one side, and then have default Ford as a wide nine on the other, and you can run a lot of stunts. You can isolate players you can do a lot of really unique and interesting things with. Those defensive linemen and when someone gets tired now, you sub in Solomon Thomas. Now, you have actually a rotation of players that you can get after the quarterback. And I think that's a really exciting place where the Niners to be. I would say one last thing on Bosa bringing up stunts a lot of people don't know how to run stunts the right way, those he's a legit team player where where he will like get a piece of the office of Lima to free up his teammate. And that doesn't happen a lot, but both is really selfless. And that's in that regard. And isn't he kind of like more athletic than you would think because he's not a bad athlete when you look at his poetic testing and the combine he actually tested out fairly. Well, he was just outside of the top ten in his class. But he's a seventy four th percentile athlete in the NFL, which is plenty good over the bar. Just just a notch below Josh Allen. But when he would try to get through a lot of that muddle in the middle if he's running an inside stunt, you think it's going to fall over and then he doesn't get through the line. And it's still able to chase down the quarterback. That's the kind of stuff that I think is really really good yard agree. And. Just that. I think that kind of speaks to his motor and just as effort as well. But one of the not it's funny that one of the Knox is he's not he's not Khalil Mack athlete level of athlete, which is pretty silly. Yeah. I think you just got to clear bar, right? You don't wanna be a below average athlete? You don't wanna test like in the ten th percentile once you're into like that sixty seventy percent how area you clear the bar and the rest, then is on you. Because being a good athlete doesn't guarantee your success. But it's rare that you find a really really good kind of amazing player. That's a bad athlete. Totally after I wasn't that. Does it for the the kind of pick recap? Kyle. It's good to have you on even if it is a bonus. But I'm sure we'll be hearing a bit more you on the podcast as we get into the season. Absolutely. Looking forward to take her. Hello. It's me Ashleigh Carmen. I'm Caitlyn to and we are the hosts of the virgin podcast. Why'd you push that button. It's a show that hard weird occasionally dumb questions about how your tiny tech decisions impact your social life. So we're asking questions like how do you choose your skin tone emoji? And why do you delete your tweets every episode? 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Week 7 NFL Week in Review & Monday Night Football Preview

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Week 7 NFL Week in Review & Monday Night Football Preview

"Over at banged the book dot com. We are your one stop shop for sports betting news and information my week, nine college while Paul ratings have been posted over there, don't expect this to happen again. But the Pala ratings place suggested that the bottom of last week's article went nine and oh, so hopefully wind up with some similar luck here this week, but the college of all power ratings are updated over there as well as college football opening line report by World Series preview between the dodgers and the Red Sox also up over there along with Parker Michael's daily and Joe picks couple of good NBA previews. We've got, you know, I'll have golf up here later on today. NFL opening line and later on will have more NFL and college football stuff. As we go throughout the week, it's definitely keep it tuned over there at bang, the book dotcom, lots and lots of great stuff going on. Don't forget about those free pick contests as well. Our sports worker views. You know about that promo code over at the sl sportsbook bang. One hundred good for one hundred percent deposit match bonus over there. Very, very busy. Any time of year college basketball editor the slate Mary soon here as well. You wanna have multiple sports books to shop around for the best lines, the best prices, the best juice, all that type of stuff. If the sl isn't one that you have, you may want to consider giving them a look to guests on today's program. The first one Mr. Joe Everett from draft scouts and insider football for NFL week, interview and Monday night, football preview, jaws going today. Man. Not bad, not bad, starting to tighten up the bolts and get get a few things figured out in this league. But yeah, there's still a few mysteries out in the NFL, but finally getting a grasp that seems there were a lot of things I can't figure out about the NFL this year. I mean, obviously everyone knows my super contest record is not great, which is certainly disappointing, but you know, it's amazing and I was talking with some people yesterday, you know, so many games now coming down to kicks, whether it's field goals or extra points. Obviously, once again yesterday more boneheaded coaching decisions, you know on Tampa Bay lot of late game stuff there that didn't make a whole lot of sense settle for forty yard or where they had two or three time outs could've moved it closer to the goalposts settled for the forty yard or and miss it, of course, went on a fifty nine yard or in overtime. Once again, Jason Garrett having no idea how to manage the end of a game. It's mad that you know it's hard enough to beat the NFL wouldn't. You've got. Deal with incompetent coaches, and then you know you've got bets relying on the right foot of kickers. It just makes it that much harder. And that was more frustrating. Oh, yeah. I mean, just beyond the coaching just the kick conundrum. I I can't imagine what it's like for some of these players, particularly the Lyman who were just battling snap, the snap just taking a beating, and then it comes down to the right or left, but of of a place kicker that plays, you know what? What would it be? Eight, nine total plays out of that entire game. What stake did he have in it so that that question comes into it. But yeah, I just can't get over at Jason Garrett still having a job and you know it's noticeable everyone making fun of him being the Clapper. How many times have you seen him clap the season. I think words finally gotten to them. That's like, dude, not only are you losing you look birdie foolish clapping consistently throughout everything so much so that you think he boards the plane flap. And so I think it's finally stopped on that, but what hasn't stopped these terrible decisions thing is finally come to a point where. Jerry's gotta question. This whole tenure finally put it to an end. Yeah, we'll see if that winds up being thing. I mean, you know, again, it it just and I was talking with some buddies yesterday when not watching the game, it just blows my mind. We're talking about billion dollar industries, and you have people in decision making capacities just consistently getting this wrong. It's just, I don't know, it's it's crazy to look at it. And you know, again, I mean it it makes a tight NFL market that much tougher to try and beat. So let's see if we can beat the market here tonight. Giants taking on it. Lanta giants. A super contest play for us in a couple of our entries little bit of a wind value grab in with regards to that game. The super guy that's line five and a half market opened four and a half. And now we've even seen a three and a half creep onto the board there at pinnacle. So you know, Joe general context clues into betting market. We talk about, you know, looking to see if we can pick something up from the line movement or the line itself. The giants have been kind of a train wreck throughout the season. Obviously, there's a bus. Going out with ally manning Odell Beckham, not happy, sequential Barclays been really good, but a lot of people wondering if the giants maybe should have gone with a different approach in the draft. And here they are in the face of all of that taking money tonight in a primetime spot against Mattie ice at home and the Atlanta Falcons pretty interesting line movement here to say the least. Yeah. And I guess the explain it, you know, they can't lose four in a row. Can they will? I'm here to tell you they can. They're on the road there. They still don't have anything figured out. I think psychologically this team is a lot of I'd miss shocked. Sterling shepherd starts by just going out and lashing out like that. He never did anything like that or Oklahoma. I've that I can remember. I mean this this pretty much a good kid. I don't know how this has happened. It's like, oh, Dell is sort of a bios most this leaked into shepherd. I know they're that they're tight, but and that's some of the things you see this happened that has to be going on the locker rooms boggling my mind. But what still is head scratchers Shurmur not being able to figure out protections and you know, I know they've had to shift or flowers out and get rid of him flat out, but still like you made your changes. That's one of the things Shurmur is so good at is just teaching his quarterback. How. Manipulate it pre snap. And I think that's why they had so much success in Minnesota. It wasn't a talented that offensive line. I'm here to tell you there's still bad in Minnesota. That's why they lost that game in buffalo. They just could not block anybody. And I think that's where sherman's talents lies. So I've got to think of that that will be figured out. And if if you're going to get figure out this the team, I mean on offense, the problem's been ally. It's just I believe it or not. He can throw a catchable pass on time when he gets those clowns shoes that, but that's been the problem. I think the lack of pass rush for the falcons that's for the giants could have some success. I mean, really it's a mash unit on defense. You're looking at two healthy corners. They got, they got a hell of a nickel, Brian pool, the kit from Florida. He's, he's like the last one left as far as tone center for that secondary with count o.'neil out of there. I do like because e, but really it's a lot. A young guys and then the linebacker you that's that's where the real difference is Evan Ingram. I'm not sure if he's a hundred percent, but he's back from that injury. He should eat with this group of backers. I think we see a lot of short passes that I don't know how many big plays are deep shots we're going to get. But I think if the giants are smart, they'll nickel and dime two thousand's the death. They're just mixing the runs with that fee. Nom rookie. They've got think everybody knows his name. So you know, you'll see the big plays by suk-won. He needs about ten to thirteen touches, and you can guarantee two of those are probably forty plus plays, especially against this this defense. So I think you know, maybe a yardage prop with sa- quantum might be smart way to go because one big play may just gets you there rather too, because it it will be high, but still, I think Evan Ingram will be a difference maker here in just situationally, like I said that Shurmur is on on notice. To here. It's not just the players that that he's got to get some things figured out. And then just as a team on the for their manhood now. Three losses at a row and not only that there is too much down on that side of the ball. So they have to score not just win score. If they don't score against this serious problems, I don't think, oh, does going to just resort to attack in a water cooler that may be something larger and more ominous. So and I think that it's real, there will be an agenda, put some points up, I think, for the giants. And then on the other side, this kind of standard operating procedure for Atlanta gonna see Sark's little version of the west coast lot of Julio early and often, and you know, just flashback old-fashioned SEC, battle Florida, Gators Jenkins, Alabama, Princeton, tied Julio Jones. I mean, that's the good as it gets still. I mean, Jack rabbit can still play. The giants are running more a little bit more than usual man that I see. So maybe that benefits Julio enough. I know who it does is they don't use zone that rid. Early probably has another game that rookie has been hot for him. I know he's injured but he and sununu their dinged up, but they're gonna play. So they've got their three wide set that that'd be that'd be an issue for the giants. And then they've been using a lot more Austin Hooper last few games. So at as a tight end, I don't know how they match up with him. I mean, I just can't help flashback to the preseason. Alec Ogle tree getting burned up the same off, David joke hoop of the Browns for that. That touchdown, no, it's preseason, but I know when somebody can't run and Ogle tree didn't have a prayer catch in joke who in Hooper's no stiff. So I think they have problems there. I think south is get up on the board here and you know me miss smells and over in this one I hate Surtees in because some of these play calls he he hasn't red zone. But I, I really look at a scenario just too much talent to mess up here. I've said there about a few teams, and I think that the Atlanta off. Offense is that there's just so many pass catchers, and then how Well Matt Ryan, I, I don't want to put too much pressure on him, but at home in Atlanta, Matt Ryan, a totally different animal. You get them on the road and some adverse conditions or apparently in the state of Pennsylvania, but it in that numerous eighties been stadium so far, so good for Matt Ryan and the offense. So yeah, I'm looking at a high scoring game. I don't like aside, but I'm I've already took the little pretty early and I'd take it again. Well, like I said, but we've got some some investment here on the giants from a super contest standpoint. I don't think I'll have anything going out with this game tonight. Lots of question marks on both sides, especially for Atlanta now without devante Freeman, do they work ITO Smith in a little bit more? Do they actually figure out how to use Tevin Coleman correctly, which is something that's Sarkissian has not been able to figure out here so far. But then on the other side, you know, the giants. I mean, if the giants can't move the football against the falcons defense with all of their injuries, who can they move the football against? Well, they do it against Washington next week. I don't know after the bye against inferences. Go maybe short week against the buccaneers. Maybe the giants have some opportunities to get the offense going here, but obviously a bad showing here this week, lots of questions on a short week, even more calls for manning to lose the job, even though they don't really have a good back-up plan to ally manning. So this is a game where you know, even if you don't have activities in it. I guess there's a game that going forward. You didn't kind kinda take an extra look at. Of these teams Sieving and find some reasons to be on or against them or Joe. Let's recap what we saw over the weekend here and we didn't get to the chargers last week on the show. We had a lot of things that we were trying to cover and I didn't wanna keep Kyle hunter on hold for too long. So we'll talk about the chargers here as they pick up the win. First of all credit to Mike variable. I think going for two was the right call there. Don't take this game to overtime. Go ahead and go for to see if you can win it. They didn't win it. It is what it is, but I liked the ballsy -ness of that. Call there from rebel of at the chargers do pull off this win, you know, ten days on the road couple of wins. Now they get a little bit of downtime. If it wasn't for the London game, I don't think they would want the buy because of how they're playing right now. But this book's a team that has a legitimate chance at being that wildcard or maybe even winning this division. If Kansas City's defensive shortcomings come to the forefront. Yeah. And I think you know, they're sitting there right where they want to be at five and two, but I agree with you to do you go for the wind, their river, you. You don't give Philip rivers. The ball back is the decision he made their rivers was type in hot at the end of that game, like with some of these connections. And that's where he can just get in a rhythm and he doesn't need that much time. I forget what it was. Twenty eight, maybe twenty six. I don't care twenty what that's enough time for rivers in those receivers right now. Terrell Williams is the threat. There's something going on between he and rivers. He's turned into the the go-to guy the it's just they've got a great chemistry. He's got too much length in those hands. But another thing, the coaching staff early on figured out something that titans coverage. I ended up, you know, way too early watching all of that London game and they had some good information or just as scouted the heck out of it. The boiled debt film down on their corners. Playing the inside leverage and the first play one deep right to the outside, like they knew it was coming. I don't know. It is a corner while you're trying to work your man, like just leaving the outside open when you're helps inside you play outside anyway. Yeah, I think right now that that game early got out of hand. They still got caught though is there's still problems on this defense. It's just I consistently look where they are. No, it doesn't help anybody out to talk about next year, but injury front, what they've sustained already hunter. Henry is one heck of a diet in just won't see him this year. Joey Bosa hasn't played the variet- that the other corner from TCU that kid is he's just been marred by injuries, but yet he won't play that. That was, I think, one of the best corners, everyone gets Casey, Hayward, all the bub, but there's a lot they're playing without. So this really they've, they're doing phenomenal where they are. Organization. And by the way last week there, I'd say one of their best defensive players didn't even play with that late Hammy I think hopefully they get that sorted out. But I think all three of those receivers are playing so well, Keenan Allen's just ridiculous. Some of those basketball moves he's making within his routes, the shimmy the it's just hard for any corner to keep up with that improvisation and Mike Williams. If he could just stay healthy for this whole season. I think it'd be a personal victory for the for the chargers organizations just not to get anybody with another season in the injury, but I thought like or a lot, the low key move in the off season too. I don't think anybody gave him credit for going out and getting pouncey center, but that's rounded their line out. They've finally got some depth creative playcalling some sometimes to creative of flashback two weeks ago they, they ran some flea flicker all the way to the white outback two rivers and. I just don't like club foot rivers, having to run around on a on an option like that. That just doesn't make that that's bad personnel. But outside of that, I think that Kenny whizzing hut. I'm not nuts about the the whole coaching staff, but what what into kneeland he's doing there. He's surrounded himself with good assistance, and that's that's how you get it done. He delegate a lot of your work, two guys that have been there before and had head coaching jobs before, which is the case with both of these cats. I think they've had some really good wins do their credit. And fortunately they do have some debts in the secondary. They Desmond king that not only is he played well in the absence of Rhett, but they've finally put him at kick returner and he's not fast. I mean at Iowa, I know if he won the Thorpe award or not, but you know, definitely all conference, but he has a kick returner just even watching that last game. He just makes the first guy miss so consistently. He's just got a knack for it. This team's got. A lot of good going on with it just as far as good juju and Joey Bosa eventually we'll shed that Dag on walking boot and that is I don't think there's a doubt about it outside of Philip rivers, that's their best players is Bosa. That's the guy that changes things for game planning, flat out. You know, the old saying coordinators lose sleep. Well, they frigging do. I mean Joey Bosa just new Newman ore from Lord of the rings. Like he's just like a regular human just built bigger, faster, stronger. And once that cat gets back there, that's going to change some things for the chargers. And yeah, this is another case. There's there's an over load. Finally at talent, and maybe those chargers. It's finally their season. Unfortunately, for people in San Diego. They're gonna have to watch happen. But I, I, I liked where this teams go, and I'm like, you said they're, they're just they're pouncing on that wild card. I in Kansas City should fault or they're they're poised right where they want to be. Well, of course, the chargers head five hundred and forty one yards against Kansas City in week. One badly outgained the chiefs, but the chiefs head, you know, a lot of things kinda work out in their favor and that game. Unfortunately, when those teams play here on December thirteenth, it's Thursday night and it's on the road for the chargers, so may not be able to put their best foot forward in the rematch against the chiefs just because of the situational spot. That's another thing to keep in mind here to the chargers note to play at Pittsburgh at Kansas City. At Denver, they host Cincinnati. You'll sit say having to come across countries a little bit of a tough spot for them. But the this scheduled for the chargers, particularly in the month of December, very, very daunting. So they should get both back after the by. Then we'll see what happens with them as they go forward there. But Joe, let's take a look here at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And of course I watched all of this game going out with somebody to watch the Browns, and you know it was it looked like it had the chance to be a route in the first half, and obviously it was at sixteen to two score. Or going into the intermission other problems made some good adjustments. Tampa Bay didn't really adjust all that well, and that kind of speaks to the coaching staff and the problems that they have their particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Now in their defense know Gerald, McCoy, no Vinny curry. Quantel Zander gets hurt just before halftime. So ten bay was dealing with some pretty significant injuries in this game. But you've talked about defensive concerns for this team for a while. Oh yeah, it's just scapegoat firing that that's just terrible. I think what really happened you hit right before the end to half the worst possible scenario they may have won the small battle, but the war has lost quantum Alexandra doors, ACL or pop is a Killys, whatever it was. I saw it in slow motion it something popped in there, and he grabbed the back of that knee like a sniper shot him I, it's I hate to see because the whole team knows it like they know it's over for him out out there for the rest of the season. He's not to a second year contract yet. This is crushing personally for this kid and he's one of those spark plugs, man. He's real leader out there, alpha dog type. He goes hard all the time. He goes hard and practice. He sets the standard for the young players, and the vets is just such a unique guys guy, man. I don't know how to say it, but it's no coincidence the Browns off. I don't think it was just second half adjustments. I think that that. Sap them of a whole lot of confidence, and I just, you know, you lose one of the fastest linebackers in the league, said it before. It's your defense. Gonna play slow when you lose that kind of speed. And I love Labonte passion bucket, David, but he's not the same player and they don't have a replacement for Alexander in coverage. The ad in McCoy not being out there, like you mentioned, really Carlton Davis is just getting placed in there. I don't think he's playing well. He may fit whatever scheme they have in mind, but I don't think they've got anything fixed its players still. It's not play calls when it boils down to it. And this war of attrition is real for that bucks defense there. So gonna miss Quon. It's not even funny. I think on that side of the ball, it's it's already in the books, I guess, with the overs that have been hitting for that side of the ball. I mean, I don't wanna dwell on the bucks. But yeah, I think James did some things. Well, it's just the bottom lines. They're going to have to outscore a bunch. Of teams that their defense is going to be in a bad way the going forward here. And I guess I dunno plant cincy at the defensive could be had probably score on them in an offense that should hit Tampa for thirty burger. At least I, I really think that bad things on is if I had to tell anybody that. But yeah, it's not looking good for the bucks. No, and the bucks have missed quite Alexander before do to injuries and different things, and they have not played well when Quantel Alexander hasn't been out there in David's also guy that has a little bit of an injury history as well. So now you're really on staying ice and this is the team that didn't have a whole lot of defensive depth anyway of, but losing Quantel exander certainly big deal there. I mean, you knew right away the way the players kind of came together a little bit that it was a bad state of affairs, and he goes, we find out and we'll probably find out from MRI results. What thinking about an ACL is that you generally know pretty quickly. So it certainly seems like that. Reverberated through the Tampa Bay locker room before they even came out for the second half and you know, defensively, they did cave there, especially as the Brown's got more plays with Alexander on the sideline. So different AFC north team here that Baltimore Ravens and look, we had the ravens in the super supercar does we're finding ways to lose now in this thing, Jay, Justin Tucker misses the first extra point of his career, two hundred twenty two for two twenty two. Before that misses the PAT ravens lose by one in regulation to the states. And of course they gave up seventeen points to the saints in the fourth quarter of this game. So a game that they should've had in hand, let the saints come back in the fourth quarter, then missed the PAT can't even get into overtime. So for Baltimore, tough pill, the swallow. But you know, unlike some of the other teams that have had some of these devastating losses here lately, you think Baltimore is still in pretty good shape. They're a good team and I don't know about that kick man. That's the strangest thing. I don't believe in supernatural, but that's one hell to slice something took that ball, and you look at the flags on the post and the prosperous, man. They weren't even moving. The one on the left is glued to the bar, but one on the rights just got a little flicker. So I don't see across win. Some took that ball, and that's why Justin Cocker's is almost popped out of his head, I think are we at Halloween yet as l. I was asking myself at that kick that was strange looking kick, but this was gonna stink. And really, I think they're fortunate to be in and honestly, you got for the start of this game and I'd watched all this. The saints went on a time, consuming ten minute drive. I, I was amazed how fast this game got the halftime because they just sapped the clock. I think it was almost Sean Payton trying to play the ravens style against them. And that's, that's one thing. Almost turn it around. On the saints. Here there's some over experimentation going on. In this case, I'm health thing is just I'm pulling my hair out there having run the option at the end of that ten minute drive and it was his fault. They think he's the special player, the some multifaceted genius. Well, he's the one that didn't press the interior Fender to draw them inside before you make that pitch outside of free up your pitch, man, that was poor play and he's never ran the option. It BYU's never done in his career. I don't know why they just think he could just magically figure it out over the course of two weeks of practice and play against one of the best defense in the league. It's this whole mad scientist. Sean Payton thing is going to catch up with him as sooner or later and it burned their bread there. And I think eventually, you know, case on who is a gunner on special teams, he was injury prone. It'd be y you, he's gonna get knocked out. I just I never wish injury on anybody, but the saints are just asking for here because Humpty Dumpty eventually is gonna fall off. That wall. So that's that's one free freebie for you there. But back to the ravens, I think just that I like what they've done the way they've composed this team is free agent wide receiver core that's panned out real well. I'm a huge personal fan of John Brown Pittsburg state. That's Pittsburgh without an eight show. Perfect combo. It flat goes deep ball. I mean, when cool Joe has the time he can uncork a real nice looking deep ball. He's just gotta get those stork legs. Right. And and once he's pointed up, it's it's really nice thing to watch and John Brown, I think combos with that so well and what he does is what what will head will Brandin cooks does for the Rams you know, like at what Josh Gordon's supposed to do for the for the pats. It's just a free up the rest of that offense. And I think that's working to some extent, but the really the move in the offseason you gotta credit Ozzie Newsome. I don't care what he's doing on the field and maybe he's just running read options, which is also kinda dumb. You're putting. Lamar Jackson in there, and basically the entire defense knows it's going to be a run, you know, you're not passing and it's still kind of making it work, but just the presence of him on the roster has forced Joe flacco in the hit the best shape of his life. I think he's more on point than he's been probably since that Super Bowl run the miracle run the gun on that contract. I this, that was probably the best move the entire off season outside of getting wink Martindale from the Broncos. I think what he's done with Eric Weddell and the understanding they have together, he's Inc Weddell. I think into the game planning, you watch on the sidelines. They are just attached at the hip Martindale and the two of them. So I think we already knew this about Eric Weddell. There's a future in coaching if he wants it, he's he's just such a smart player in the reason he's been in the league from Utah as he's been leaked for years just because he, he knows everything. He knows personnel as defense he hadn't played and on the the the fact that man. They still got to Alzheimer's there on Baltimore in Weddell and t- sucks. I don't know how because playing this well, at the end of his career to put this on somebody, but check him and what is he taking? I want some of it and as long as they got CJ Moseley I forget when we did it, but there was a segment we did like non quarterbacks that I think changed the lines. I think mostly is one of those types. He's just such a dynamo and coverage. Just there's a strong team and I don't know what the look ahead here is, but the Panthers ravens. I know that wink Martindale knows a thing or two about old Norville Turner. So that's definitely a coaching Ango I'd consider going forward in the Bronx a, sorry, a Baltimore Ravens team. I'm not afraid to back even after a kind of deflating loss. This is still a pro squad, great coaches. They're not gonna die. Easy. Well, on the ravens only allowing four point eight yards per play to that potent new. Orleans often. So again, and loss a frustrating one at that. But Baltimore, at least defensively played really, really well in that game for the most part on Sunday. How about the Jacksonville Jaguars here? I mean, man, I I don't even know where to start with this team. I guess we could start with Blake Bortles getting benched and Cody Kessler throwing the ball thirty times. We can talk about how this defense is regressed. We can talk about how Jalen Ramsey is no longer able to run his mouth. I don't know where you start with Jacksonville, but this is a dramatic turnaround. You're talking about a team that very well should've beat New England in the AFC game. Last year did beat New England this year and did so in dominating fashion. And since then it's been a train wreck. I love Jalen Ramsey quiet as a mouse now. So much talk before it said you set yourself up for that sometimes. But I, I heartily to quote Doc Rivers when he coached the LA clippers, it's no fault in that horse voice. I mean, I don't want to put this all on. Blake Blake's made some Bonet plays. There's no doubt, but how about two huge drops on third down by Keelan Cole who had been playing really well in the just it's this bottom is blonde. They're not blocking anybody. You could Chuck this whole game up to. We can't block cloudy AJ Ken data position right now. I think Parnell's a stiff and then Josh Walker just shouldn't be out there that I hate to be jerk. My maybe right now he develops into a player later, but it's just too early. They're missing camera Anderson so much that left tackle. And I think they're also banged up that no. Well, the the big free. Agent money guy. He's playing her, then they got another. I think lender also playing hurt both those guys limited on that on the practice report all last couple of weeks. And that's it. You know, join the club? No one else can block clowney either. I don't care if that, you know and it's not. I love how people wanna associate this with Leonard for net. They don't have their identity and that's why they traded for Carlos bring Jim Brown out there. He ain't blocking clowney either. That's the right now. It's just there to volatile team to get behind. Can't back them and looking ahead, they got Philly. I'm pretty sure they can't block Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham or Derek bar net of I'd taken under on that. For fact, right now, if forty or anything, but this team needs to buy week in the worst way, man. And I guess combo this whole game watched, but like they need to come to Jesus moment like in just before this game realized they can't block Fletcher. Cox, we're gonna throw a bunch of digs screens dumps check downs in a hurry up offense and ditch the run flat out because we can't get it done. I, if they seriously think they're going to go up against philli lineup, I formation hat. On a hat man up. They there for themselves right now. So like I said, I don't care who's in that backfield that Adrian Peterson as a rookie probably going to have problems behind this line. And I think that's the Texans. They may have won this game and but that's they're, they're really shaky up front and I just hate the just listening to these stories about lots and taking that bus instead of the plane due to pressure air pressure from the flight. I mean, it's that bad and you're still going through games that is that's on women of prayer, man, JJ watt, bad back clowney, the trick knee. How long does the Honey badger last? This is another team. I, I'm just going out look ahead here, man, but like they're going to Broncos in that altitude with Watson and that lung thing, I that sounds like a recipe for failure there. This was watching that Texans Jaguars gained like I, I only watched it on the a condensed version. In, but I'd still like that thirty minutes back. Oh, I mean, yeah, I, I don't blame you. You know. And one of the few good calls I've really in the supergun as was to take Houston this week because of those costs are injuries for Jacksonville, and that's the thing it was. Jacksonville defense is still very talented. It is still very good to Shawn Watson guests. He's hurt, but twelve of twenty four for only one hundred and thirty nine yards. But he only got hit once. And that's the problem for Jacksonville. Right now, they're losing the battle in the trenches, very badly weakened and week out. They can't block anybody as you mentioned. They've got a lot of injury concerns, but also this is a defense that lives on playing that base defense, press coverage. You know, they kind of limit the big plays almost as well as anybody in the league does, but they don't get after the quarterback. So they give having all these situations on offense. They get these negative plays get behind the chains. Well, that puts a ton of pressure on your defense when you're not able to flip the field, you're not able to sustain any kind of. Time of possession. The defense is really being asked to do a ton here for Jacksonville, and it didn't last year, but Bortles was at least competent for the most part last year when four that was out there, they were good, but ultimately their offense of wine was healthier, and that's the problem for them right now. So as you mentioned, you know, next week taking out of Philadelphia team that can wreak havoc there in the trenches doesn't matter this games in London or not if it's a pseudo home name for Jacksonville, you know, I've liked to play Jacksonville in that one game. I think I've done it eats the last three years in the super contest. There's no way I do it this year. I mean, just what you said from a matchup standpoint. Jacksonville can't keep a quarterback upright. Can't get a push in the running game. How are they going to do it next week? It's Philadelphia where the probably the strongest part of the Philadelphia team is that front seven on defense. They, they need to seriously do some soul-searching themselves scouting. Like I said, I don't wanna. Everyone gets the run. They always wanted to say, you know, every coach starts off a press conference where we need to stop the run and it really run the ball. Well, I didn't the gold win, though. Bottom line at the end of the day, I, they have to really approach this as more of a pickup basketball game and things have to happen on an internal clock and quickly. And like I mentioned, just some dumps check downs or your friends and test those linebackers test. The secondary on the parameters is that that's where I go. Unfortunately, you're basically asking, Blake Bortles to win another game. It's it's. There's trouble in paradise that's for sure in Jacksonville, Joe ever from draft scouts and also insider football. I, you've written here recently. Do you wanna put our listeners towards or anything that you're working on. Keys, the coaching search article last week that is getting finalized and also the weekly ID peak column. We're getting at the halfway point week eight on the horizon. It's even more crucial now moso than ever have your by week replacements. So waiver wire call that includes eighteen. Defensive players comes in handy. So that's where you want to get inside or football dot com. I guess last thing I'll ask you about here Joe real quickly. Then since you mentioned the coaching coaching search thing in terms of the college guys, Lincoln Riley, maybe Jeff Brom is kind of put himself into that discussion now as well. Who do you think would be the most likely and then subsequently the most successful college coach to make the leap to the NFL over the next two, three years. You know, I don't think that Weaver to last chocolate chip that that's something that's still like has got a bother him as such a competitive guy, but you took the words right out of my mouth. I think the only reason Lincoln Riley leaves Norman there. There's you don't leave Oklahoma, Sooners type job. You go to like another division one unless it's, you know something prestigious, but I think he's, he's getting meetings with all these NFL guys. All these other coaches want to know why so successful. And I think that's half of it like you're not seeing normal offense as much anymore. And like things that used to be trick plays like these, they call them aren't PEOs, but it's basically your option play with these. That's now a standard and a staple of the offense. And like, you know, we're basically the league seen a lot more big than offenses and now now a lot of the same results. But yeah, there's a reason a lot of NFL people making. The trek out to Norman to talk to Lincoln Riley. 'cause like he's just changed so many players just even what he was doing at East Carolina, just groundbreaking, and that's there's a big reason why you'll Bobby big time. Big game Bob step down. It's like this. This just too much talent here was Lincoln Riley like, I'm need to step right out of the way and let this guy do is thing. And yeah, I would be surprised if he stays in Norman, what these for -tations from the league. The I think the league's to intrigued and right now, heck fans know his name at the a big PR move like, well, let's let's just say it Tampa Bay one foot out the door, Dirk Qatar. What about Lincoln? Riley? Jameis Winston, Mike Evans, Ronald Joan. That's a lot of firepower for little Lincoln to get started with. I'm telling you. I mean, I think I said this before Baker Mayfield got drafted that that fit makes a ton of sense in Cleveland to be back with Baker. You've got a guy, Hugh Jackson who hasn't really proven. A lot at the NFL level. So that would be the one that I'm kind of thinking, of course, as a clevelander or a quasi Browns fan when I'm hoping for, but man should be very interesting to see as we go forward here. Make sure you fall join Twitter at Joe, w Everett, Joe. Appreciate your time as always thank you so much, man. We'll talk again next week. I looking forward to.

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The Lightning Round Podcast #162: Bye Week Listener Q&A

Bolts from the Blue

1:00:19 hr | 2 years ago

The Lightning Round Podcast #162: Bye Week Listener Q&A

"This is the lightning round podcasts with your host GARRETT'S, the N, Jamie voile charges. Go. Welcome to the by route pissed the lighting around podcast, Jamie Hoyle who's tweeting at lightning underscore around. I am Garissa STI at Garissa STI on Twitter, and we are taking a whole lot of questions today. We're gonna fish out our record predictions after the bye coming up. So we're in dive right into it. But we have a totally different format. I am out of the state said country amount of the state, I'm traveling Jamie, and I could not hook up to record together. So we record separately. So we ended up doing was taking all the questions we got he's going to answer one. I'm going to answer one. We're just going to go back and forth answering these questions that we got. So just know that Jamie, and I aren't together for the first time ever. According this podcast. We're doing it separately. He's according questions on his in Amer corden questions on my end. And let's just go ahead and get into it. The first one is from a caller named Jason a write in around Jason year, and my questions kind of a long one and one no matter how much I watched games. I just can't seem to figure out is what is happening with the turtles corners. It. Doesn't seem like is like the regressing or that. They just don't have it anymore. It just seems like a lot of technical stuff is going wrong. They don't know how to set the edge anymore with their tackling. They were really good at last year. They can't get their head around. The find the ball. They always seem to be in position. But they just can't seem to they can't seem to get it done and wanted to hear your thoughts on wanted kinda get another opinion on it. See what you guys maybe think is happening whether it's from coaching or scheme or maybe just not the same players as they were last year. Thanks for the podcast guys. But for listening. I think there are a lot of a lot of things that play with the charter secondary the season. The first is obviously early in the year they were really struggling to get pressure on opposing quarterbacks. So as a result of that the corners rest cover for a long time. And as we know the longer a corner has to cover the harder becomes to his job. So there are a lot of guys getting hung out to dry being asked to cover for four or five six seven seconds. And that's just a very difficult task with an F L wide receivers. I also think there are some issues with gusts scheme early in the year. I think they were backing off quite a bit giving big cushions and not just giving big cushions. But expanding those cushions as the wide receivers got into their routes. So for example against Kansas City and against the Rams, we saw them giving eight to ten yard cushions. And then backing off on top of that because they were worried about getting beat deep because they don't have the fastest group of. Corners. So that was giving the opposing wide receivers a lot of room to operate underneath. And it was creating a lot of opportunities for them to make plays in that five to ten yard range where the corners are backing off and essentially content to allow these guys to make catches in front of them. Because they're trusting their ability to come up and make a tackle. I also think that as you watch this defense the cover three scheme has some weaknesses. It's a lot of zone. So you're really inviting defenses to make plays in front of the secondary in front of the linebackers even behind the linebackers because you're trusting people that come up and make tackles after plays are made and they've had issues tackling. And I think they've also been hung out to dry quite a bit because they've got some linebackers who are so focused on stopping the run that they're biting on pretty much any play fake. They're coming up hard two or three steps and they're vacating their their their zones their transa- drops. So in a lot of cases these corners are letting guys go through the middle of the middle of the defense expecting the linebackers drop back and cover the linebackers dropping back and covering, and then of course, we also know that Jalil die is not doing his job picking guys up on the back end making tackles. He's having a hard time making decisions and closing ground and taking good angles and he's getting beat. So I think a lot of these things are contributing to the struggles of the charter secondary. I think the overlying factor here is once they resolve the pressure issues, and they started getting more pressure on the quarterback. They're just they're really worried about getting deep. I think they got spooked by some of the struggles they had with tyreek hill last year. So coming into the year whenever they see speed receivers on the outside their backing off giving them room and try to keep them in front of them. And the result is they're making plays in the middle of the field and the corners really don't have an opportunity to make those plays. They've been better in some games. I think they were good in the Browns game. They got their hands on some footballs Nachson balls down. They had much tighter coverage. It was harder for the Browns to complete passes against Tennessee. There were more bunch formations. So they were giving cushions because they didn't wanna get rubbed and picked and it was allowing the Tennessee receivers to get into the routes and get a little further downfield. So I think those are some of the things that are happening with secondary. And why why the corners are not playing? Well, it does also look like Casey Hayward might be step slower. And it just looks like I don't know if it's missing the training camp. In the offseason. But it just really looks like Trevor Williams is not the same player. So a little bit of regression some schematic issues some issues with missing Joey Bosa, and I think the team and the players hope that a lot of this turns around if when they get Bosa back they start getting quicker pressure and the corners will be able to be more aggressive now. Here's a question from Justin who called in and left a message just in from Guangzhou China. I was wondering if you guys could rank Thom Tillis go and the job you think he's doing as a GM in the past. You've suggested that you didn't think he is doing such a great job. I'm a big fan of his I think split together really good team. But yeah, if you could give me your general thoughts on where he ranks as far compared to other GM's or on a scale from one to ten. Thank you. Great job loved podcast by some gonna do a letter grade for Thom Tillis go because I think that's a little bit easier to grasp and when you look at this roster where SIS today there are few holes for the charters need to upgrade. But I honestly I think it's been awhile since I've said only a few, you know, when I was going through and thinking of all the trades charges could make the trade deadline. There isn't a lot you can think of defensive tackle. He can think about a tight end to take over for hunter Henry while he's out for the time being free safety, obviously linebacker, there isn't a lot of positions of need. I would also like to say for the greater Tom to Lasco. It is always fluid. There are moves that I questioned like drafting Melvin Gordon that have worked out or a move likely re-signing Joe Barksdale at the time and that just kind of fell flat. So these grades are always changing I feel like I've been kind of hit or miss with Tom to Lasco. But as the roster sits now, it's hard. Not to be impressed. Drafts have been good for the most part except for those third round picks. There's been some real hits some real MRs. There aren't any backbreaking contracts that have kind of hamstrung this team, which I think is very impressive. Give you can count Trump's Benjamin. But that's not really backbreaking and listen to let's go always gets guys affair deal. Any almost never overpays. And he's always good for a late infre- agency gem like Mike pouncey this off season. He always gets one of those. So with all that said, I think with Tom Lasco, I would give him a BB plus only because I think he holds onto guys a little bit too long. Travis Benjamin, Joe Barksdale, maybe even me Bain guys, you could probably have cut already don't kind of wasting away on the Rosser a little bit. And I also really don't like his don't give should attitude about safeties and run stuffing defensive tackles that irks me because they continue to be a problem. So I think that keeps them out of being an a but BB plus could fight for a minus. Really? But I'm gonna give them I won't flip flop. I'll give you one b plus he's done a real nice job as a GM. This roster is impressive. And it's you know, if not. Piece or two away from making a real deep run the playoffs. So this next question comes from somebody who didn't wanna leave their name. And I understand why the question is. Can you guys have a moment of silence for Mike McCoy's coaching career in the NFL? Thanks well in honor. We're not doing a moment of silence. No, but honor Mike McCoy, we will bring back Jim that we made here on the podcast while he was still coaching the chargers. So here, you go milk those Mike, this one's for you. From the folks brought you the most interesting man in the world. Introducing the least interesting, man. In his favorite color. Wants to boomerang and decided not to come back. His favorite kind of cake. His rice game. His favorite. Spotify plan is elevated music. He likes saltine crackers changed. San Diego Chargers. Head coach Mike McCoy is the least interesting, man. The chargers aren't always down thirty two three going into halftime. But when the are he kicked field goals? For the football team moving forward. The next question is from Oscar from Costa Rica, he says, I know it's not usually Thom Tillis was way to do business. But do you see the chargers making a trade now while you're listening to this podcast? This is the official trade deadline. He might be listening to it after the trade deadline, but we recorded earlier than that. So I will say and predict let's go does not make a move the pretty strafford cash. They have a little over two point five million dollars. They'd have to make some cuts some trades. Probably some contract restructures just to get under that to take on another contract. I don't see let's go doing that. At all. So I say, no, the charters will not make a trade at the trade deadline. The next question is from John who's British bolts on Twitter and John says, hey, guys, if you were to trade a first pick for one player who would you choose? And why? So that's a good question. I think if I was looking for one player who I know is out there who would. Make sense and fill a need for the charges at this point know going back to the conversation about the corners. I think the one guy who I know is worth the first round pick who you're gonna have under contract for a couple of years, assuming they could fit him under the cap and in a perfect world everything worked out by naturally. I think that would be Patrick Peterson of the Zona cardinals Peterson's one of the best corners league. He's twenty eight years old signed fry believe two more years playing an exceedingly high level. He also has the ability to come in and return kicks and punts. If you want him to do that he hasn't done that as much in recent years because they want him healthy to play corner in Arizona. But there is that option maybe a wrinkle maybe throw him and does back in a couple of key punt situations to see if you can get the coverage, lean one way and get a big return out of it. But I think you know, bringing in a guy like Peterson would be huge lift for the secondary. Take a lot of pressure off Casey, maybe allow them to lighten the load a little bit on Trevor see if they can get him corrected by reducing some of his snaps and really just bringing a playmaker. The secondary a secondary. At least from a cornerback perspective that's lacking playmakers. So that's the guy that I will go for. I think that's solves a big need for this team and would make a lot of sense if they could make the finances workout this question is from Jared Hendershot, he says I was expecting equa have a massive showing on Sunday. But only a mass three point five yards per carry. Is he strictly Rb to change of pace back or the titans that good at offending the run? What are your thoughts? We kinda talked about it on the last podcast. But I don't think the charges were fully prepared for the future back that week, or at least that's how it appeared. Wiz had done a really nice job with Gordon running motion, keeping those opposing defenders honest. They also created some creative opportunities for Gordon to get the ball through the air. There's a lot of misdirection. We saw a lot of sweeps tosses. We didn't see a lot of that at all with that color. The basically has ran up the middle of the majority of the time, and that's not really his game. So that was a game plan issue for sure, and that's not just because I'm a fan of Ecuador and know I've been. Pushing Ecuador's jokingly saying he's Rb one. But look, very good. And if you use his skill set he could take advantage, and they just didn't do that against the titans. The next question is from Francis Tondena, and he says great show guys. Always look forward to listening to the pod. Whenever show drops. My question is with the atmosphere of the fans in the London game. Would you be mad if the chargers potentially moved to London they would play in the atmosphere for every home game and most likely be supported by all of London. I don't think I would mind because they gain such a following. So I'm a little torn on this question to be perfectly honest with you Francis. I think it'd be great for the team to have that kind of following. And there's obviously there's obvious benefits there. I think the idea of moving team to London is kind of premature. I think there's a lot of traveling with that. There are a lot of logistical issues that need to be worked out with that. And I'm not really sure that moving team to London make sense unless you are moving in division or and or maybe creating a whole new conference in Europe. So that you can consistently play games in Europe. And you're not having to travel back and forth from London to the states on a weekly basis. I just think. You know in terms of the players bodies and traveling in jet lag in the logistics and the expense. I'm just not sure it makes sense and perfectly honest with you from a selfish standpoint having the team leave San Diego move to LA was hard enough. If they were gonna move anywhere. I would want them move back to San Diego, obviously for selfish reasons, I'm not saying they're going to move back. So before anybody gets their panties in a bunch and says, they're not moving back. It's working in L A. You're crazy. Stop being salty. Whatever all that garbage. All I'm saying is if they were going to move, I would prefer back to San Diego. I'm not sure from emotional standpoint. I could handle another move. And frankly, having them move what five thousand miles away to London feel like it would just move them. One step further away from me, and maybe maybe my interest will wane a little bit just having them so far away. So. So for me, you know, what I be mad if they moved probably I don't think I'd like it too much. I understand the the benefits of having a larger fan base and having some rabid fans. I'm just not a fan of football in Europe. I know the NFL's trying to push that. I think it works on a novelty basis. I'm just not sure it works. If you have one team out there who has travel back and forth between Europe and the states on a regular basis. And obviously. I just don't want the moving again. It was a lot to go through the first time. And I'm kinda just starting to get back to normal with them. And I just don't want to deal with another move. So no, not for me. No move for me. I will pass. Thank you very much for the question, though. This is from Vincent he says incredibly premature. But as of right now at this point in the season who would be your pick for charters overall ofensive in defensive MVP most improved player and most disappointing for offense event. I think it's easy. It's Philip rivers. Melvin Gordon is definitely in the conversation. But this offense is nowhere near what it is right now without Alcaparras tan number seventeen. So Philip rivers offense of MVP, and to be quite honest. He should be in the conversation for MVP of the NFL for defensive MVP. This was a little bit tougher. But I might have to say Derwin, James. He's been a little quiet the last two weeks, but he. He has just shown out. He's playing his one of the better safeties in the league. He's been very good. And I think he's been a very very bright spot on that defense. Adrian Phillips deserve some love. Melvin Gordon has done enough to create some pressure. I think he's getting a bad rap right now. But I'm gonna go with James overall MVP gotta be Philip rivers easy. Most improved. The most improved player on this roster is Adrian Phillips last year. He did find a dime. Linebacker. He deserved to be resigned this year. I don't know how you take them off the field. He deserves that spot. He's earned it. He's been very good last few weeks and pretty good throughout the season. He's been really good on special teams throughout the whole year to most is appointing I guess, you could say Casey Hayward. But I don't think he's been he's been disappointing. But not as pointing to me as Trevor Williams, I think Casey Hayward still made some plays. But Trevor Williams has been a very. Disappointing player this year. You know, they're one of the better CB duos in the league. And here they are. They're not near that right now. So I guess you could say, hey, we're Trevor Williams most this appointing, but I also have to say another gal throw in there. Chris leandra? Where's he been? He was supposed to be Chris McCain. Chris McCain went silent through the last half of the season. But at least he had five sacks to the first half. Unless Chris Landry going to do the opposite. And get collect five sacks here after the bye, but he's been really disappointing. He deserves to get his snaps cut. And I had real high hopes fries were shell too at defensive end. He looked good preseason can't say, I'm thoroughly disappointed. Like, I am with Chris Leandra and Trevor Williams, but I'll say Trevor Williams the most sappointing so far this year next question is from Alfred and Alfred says, hey, guys, I've asked this question a couple years back. But I don't think it's easy to answer. Now with how balance the team looks. So two minutes left in a game. Seventy five yards to score with two timeouts and a touchdown wins. It would you rather have the chargers. Offense trying to score that touchdown or the defense trying to stop the game winning touchdown. That is a tough question. And I guess there's a qualifier here. Right. I think the qualifier is is Joey Bosa healthy because I think if both healthy and you've got both Bosa and Ingram coming off the edge. You've got file on creating pressure up the middle. You have the opportunity to bring you know, Derwin James or Desmond king off the edge. Maybe even a Kaiser white off the edge something like that out of the slot. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from SP nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart it's smart as a show about people doing things that for some reason or another same smart at the time. Those things might include doing a little cocaine and driving a bike up mountain or I don't know maybe racing one hundred miles per hour across the country in the middle of the night with no one's permission or even stealing a bat from an empire is room in a major league baseball park, check it out. And if you like it Tele friend, I'm Spencer hall, don't do anything smart. I think there are a number of ways to create pressure speed things up maybe force turnover. So both healthy and the defense clicking at all cylinders at the end of the year. I'm thinking I probably want the defense on the field. But right now based on the way the defense is playing right now and based on the way rivers is playing and the number of weapons they have especially Melvin Gordon is healthy. I would think I'd want the ball in rivers hands with two timeouts. Granted it's been a while quite a while since we've seen rivers lead you know, clutch fourth quarter game winning touchdown. He's had a couple opportunities last year in particular. You don't thinking of the patriots game. I'm thinking of the Jacksonville game. Some opportunities to bring the team back and he's come up short. He's turned the ball over in some situations. He just hasn't been the clutch guy that he was early in his career. So i'm. A little gun shy and having the ball in his hands in the fourth quarter. But with as well as he is playing right now and is sharp. He is and the job he's doing getting the team into the right plays and getting the ball on the hands of the right people. I feel like this is a team. This is an offense that we can trust to get those seventy five yards with two minutes left and two time out. So I guess kinda convoluted answer I kind of went in both directions. But both if both healthy I want the defense on the field. But right now with both of not being healthy things being equal all things being equal the way the defense is playing I would take the offense. All right next question. Hey, guys, so might have an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sold on badgley? And hope he is our answer to the kicking conundrum. Every one of his kickoffs came up short not only that but they were low enough to allow the return to get a running start catching the ball the results speak for themselves and for the second week in a row. The defense had a defense short field almost the entire game to me. That's just not a feasible model for success. Yes. Especially against better teams that will take advantage making makeable kicks his great. But we shouldn't be so jaded that we allow this to cloud our judgment. What are your thoughts? Great job on the podcast this year. I look forward to it every week. Thanks, not is. Well, isn't it funny or I guess not so funny now this all stems back when the chargers released Josh lambo, and the reason they released Josh lambo who's because young coup was better at kickoffs. That set this whole kicker carousel emotion. And now we're having the same conversation. We're badgley isn't doing very good and kickoffs Sturges Sturges making his kicks. I'm not sold. Either. The kickoffs were bad Linda dress that after the game badgley had five returns and both games this year. So he started to five terms last two games. He also didn't kick them as bad in Cleveland than he did in London. And I know a lot of people were speculating that might have been a game plan thing. But that's not what Lynn indicated after the game. And you basically have a choice to make hopefully the choices and keeping to kickers. And that's obvious an option, but either you see if Donnie Jones can handle kickoffs, which I doubt or you surrender feel position for points with badgley or surrender points for field position with Sturges. I'm not entirely sold them badgley. Only because the kickoffs obviously, he's been perfect so far, but I'm still willing to give them a couple of weeks for saying, hey, what are we doing about this kickoff situation? Because also the pun kick return teams weren't very good. The last few weeks either for bachelor so that doesn't help either. Next question is from Mike in Australia. Mike says, hey, guys loved the show. And I look forward to it every week. Derwyn James has been an absolute beast for the chargers and must be the steel of the twenty eight teen draft. How do you think he's looking for defensive rookie of the year honors personally, I think it's a lock if he keeps balling out the way he has been thanks guys go bolts. So here's my thought on the on the rookie of the year award. I think right now they're really four guys who are at the forefront of the discussion based on the way they're playing through the first half of the season. I think those four guys are obviously during James with the impact he's making and coverage as a pass rusher and run support. He's been fantastic the sack totals are higher than you'd expect from a safety. He doesn't have a whole lot of interceptions. I think he leads the team type the team lead in passes defense, and he is among the team leaders in tackles. He's been very good. But he doesn't have. I mean if. If you watch them on a day-to-day basis, you understand how valuable he is. But I'm not sure he has the sexy county numbers that you would want in terms of tackles sacks interceptions, and that may change. But right now, even though I think he's at the forefront with with three other guys. I'm not sure that the numbers are sexy enough for him to get that award. Even though he's probably deserving of it that could change, but the other three guys that are on that list. I think our Darius Leonard the linebacker from Indianapolis who was one of my top linebackers draft last year. I had him as a sleeper as a potential second or third round pick. Just really love the way he covers ground and makes plays. Leonard has four sacks. He is leading the league tackles, and he has been a huge impact player for that. Indianapolis defense. Granted they are rebuilding. They're probably not going to make the playoffs. They will more than likely finish with losing record certainly probably know better than a five. Record. So he's guy who's kind of at the forefront right now, and might even be leading the pack just based on pure production. But you figure that team's gonna fall off in the second half of the season. And as the team falls off his coverage will fall off. He will not be at the forefront of the discussion because people were forget about him playing Indianapolis. So I think his chances slip as a season goes on in the team around him continues to lose. I think Denzo word is in a similar situation. He's tied for the league lead interceptions that he's in the top ten and passes deflected. He is one of the I think he's a number five a corner on pro football focus right now. And he's been very very good out of the out of the gates. But he plays in Cleveland. They are they have a losing record. Unless they have a huge surge in the second half of the season. And he does some really special things. I think even though he's very good and playing extremely well. I think it's likely he will slide in the discussion as well. Just because he will not be getting the coverage that some of the other guys will. So I think he slides, and then the last guy to I think is at or near the forefront of the conversation is late and Vander the linebacker from Dallas his numbers are not as great, but he has been playing for Dallas who will more than likely be in the hunt for a playoff spot in a very weak AFC east for the majority of the year unless the eagles get really hot down the stretch. And if you're playing in Dallas, you're playing in the middle that defense, you're in the middle of a playoff run. He's going to get a ton of tackles as he plays, more and more and more. He will make some plays. He's going to stand out and you're gonna hear his name billed as the season builds just because he's gonna get a lot of the credit. For the Dallas defense if that team stays in the hut. So I think the first four guys that first group Derwin Vander, ash, Leonard and Denzel ward, I think there's another cut of guys that are right behind them. Probably includes Bradley Chubb, Jessie, Bates, maybe one or two other guys. But I think those guys are really kind of on the outside looking in Chubb had a three sack game early in the season hasn't really done much sense Bates has been good in coverage has been around the ball a lot. But he plays Cincinnati team that will more than likely fade as a season goes on. So I think his chances will slide even though he's been very very good my number to safety, by the way. So in my opinion, I think this award probably comes down to late Vander ash and Durham James, and I think it comes down to who makes the most splash plays down the stretch. And who does the most put his team in position to make the playoffs? So. If Derwin continues the rush the pass rush the passer the way he has been and he makes a few big plays in coverage. Maybe force turnovers down the stretch and key games. You know, he could really put his name way ahead of the others. If he comes up with a couple of big turnovers, maybe the the Pittsburgh game or the Baltimore game. Maybe Kansas City at the end of the season. So he's going to have an opportunity in the last three or four weeks to make some splash plays and really separate himself. And I think Vandereycken will also be in the same situation. So is it a lock I don't think it's a lock. Does he have a chance? Absolutely. I think he's probably gonna finish the season in the top. Two or three voting. And like I said have a really good chance to push himself. Into the forefront to the top of that board to the top of that list. If he closes out the season, really, well and particularly steps up and balls out in Kansas City against Baltimore or against Pittsburgh. So those are his opportunities to shine and really separate himself. Good question, though. Thanks, Mike next question's from John Doe, which is acute name for whoever wrote this. I you can do whatever name you want, which I guess is why you put John Doe. But why not just put your first name come on? We wanted to who you are John Doe or stain animus. I don't care. I know the team is winning and it's not really a big deal. But I would like to see keen and get the ball more. What do you guys think about that little tantrum through against Tennessee? Washington point live Geena felt like he was open. But he's only open 'cause rivers. Let the ball go early to Mike Williams over the middle for quick hitter. Rivers made the right read Mike was opening tight quarters, and it just hit off his hands. He turned his hands wrong way. Try to trap it against his body. Not. Oh, good should have been caught and rivers put it on them. Now if rivers had thrown it away or made some ill advised throw, I get it. But everything through that process was right. Except a result Keenan was wrong for that. You shouldn't have got upset, and I understand it's about competitiveness, and he's manned up about it. He went on Twitter and said, hey, that's my fault. I shouldn't have done that. And he knows he was wrong for blown up like that. And I respect him for saying. So and acknowledging it q now in is nineteenth in league and targets, but he's kind of taken aback seat the last two weeks because the place from the outside receivers, Tyrone Williams, Mike Williams keenum, we'll get his I'm not too concerned about kin and not getting the ball enough. I have an inkling that John Doe. You own Keenan on your fantasy team. And you're probably playing PR wanna get him some more targets, but he'll get his next question is from Ben Brown. And Ben says, how would you guys great Anthony land a year and a half in the chargers are now fourteen and five through. Their last nineteen games. And those post game speech is from the from the chargers Twitter getting ready to run through a wall. But it seems the chargers are just a few weeks away from dominance and can't quite get over that hump. What changes do you think link could should make to get this team to play at an elite level? So the first part of that question is how would you grade him a year and a half in? So if you're looking strictly at record wise results hard numbers, I think you know, he's fourteen and five over his last nineteen. I believe he is fourteen and nine overall to stuff the top of my head twenty three games in fourteen and nine so, you know, he's over five hundred and pretty respectively over five hundred and they've been on a real tear for the most part sense. You know about the middle of last season. So he's got them playing pretty well. I think from a record standpoint you'd probably give him a solid B. You know, maybe it'd be minus with the own four start last year. But I think if you look at some of the things that you need an elite coach to do some of the things a coach needs to do to put his team in position from a game management clock management kind of perspective. I think there are still some shortcomings there. I think the clock management is a big issue. You know, we've seen him struggle to call timeouts like in Tennessee game. They really should have started using their timeouts earlier when it became clear that Tennessee was probably going to score and said, it was bleeding the clock leading Tennessee bleed the clock out and leave no time. I thought they also wasted two timeouts at the end of the first half against Kansas City when they are against Tennessee excuse me when they had a chance to possibly go down and kick a field goal before. Halftime. We've we've also seen other instances of him really struggling to manage the clock at the end of games and at the end of half's. So I think is clock management's probably a c c minus somewhere in that range. Maybe even give him a D And some in some instances gay management in game decision making. I think there are some weaknesses there. I think he's really inconsistent with when he's going to go for it. And when he's not gonna go for it. There are some games where it seems like he's trying to make a point early in the game. And he's gung ho and he feels like he's got to win the game. And he's he's taking chances on fourth down. And then later in that game when they really need a fourth down conversion he's punting from the thirty five yard line. So he so up and down. And so in consistent with those play calls that are with those decisions that I think that's another low-grade probably in that C minus d range as well. If not even a little lower. But one thing that I do like that he does. And I'll go back to a positive here is I think. He and his coaching staff for the most part. There are some exceptions where it's not the case. But for the most part they have done a good job of putting their players in a position to succeed. You know this year, they're taking more advantage of Tiro Williams deep they done a good job of. They've done a good job of getting Melvin Gordon involved in the passing Gabe. Over the last year year and a half particularly in the middle of the field against linebackers, which is tough match-up for any linebacker. You don't want defense. They're trying to keep during in the box. They've really done a good job of bringing Darius file on a long and finding ways to get him involved in the past rush. Whether it's from the inside or or as five technique. You know, they bring in phoen- they moved to left guard. They put him in a position to succeed. I think I think there are a lot of examples of guys that they have they're bringing guys with specific plan for them and putting them in a in a position to succeed with how they're using them. And I think that's those are those are good things. So overall if I'm grading him. I think even with the fort the fourteen and nine record to start his career. I think there are some things that still need to be worked on there. Still some things that are some slight red flag. So I'm gonna give him. I wanna give them a gray. But I'm going to give him a c right now. I'll give them a strong see because I think that there are some things he's doing really well. And there are things that he's not doing as well that that about the kind of not necessarily cancel those things out but make them a little bit less. Impressive. In terms of what changes, do I think should need to be made to get this team to play in an elite level this year. I think there are a few. And I think a lot of them are personnel. Type changes on the defensive side of the football in particular. First of all they've got Joel dia playing in a position that he is not suited for. I think we all knew that going into the season. There was kind of a. I guess we'll call it a cautious optimism for lack of a better word that maybe he'll figure it out and be a good free safety. But Jila dies not an NFL free safety. He's kind of an average strong safety. And they've got him out there on an island in the middle of the field. And he's just terrible. And I think they need to hold them accountable. I think it becomes more and more difficult for the team to hold anybody accountable. If they've got him out there taking bad angles missing tackles blow and covered assignments leading guys run by him. He's just been brutal and something needs to be done to fix that. And I think they're a couple of ways that they could address it. I don't think they will. But I think they could. They could flip flop heaven Derwin and have Darren at at free safety more. I don't like that idea. I think during his so much better in the box just in general and so much better on the box and a die that I just want him closer to Leonard scrimmage where he can be more involved in the game. But that is an option the other option would be to figure out some sort of rotation with a racial Jenkins and Adrian Phillips both of whom played pretty well in recent weeks and are deserving more snaps you could kinda rotate those guys back there, depending on whether you're in your base defense, and your sub package might look a little bit something like. For example, Adrian at free safety in the base defense. And then when you're a nickel and dime. You walk him down in the box. And you bring Jenkins in for free safety something along those lines. But they need to hold you'll die countable. I think the other thing that they do they need to figure out a more clearly defined role for turn Awo. Sue, obviously second round pick. You'd like to think he's gonna make a big impact. He's hardly been on the field at all outside a special teams this year. He played four snaps total in Tennessee, which is kinda shocking in a game where they needed some pass rush, and they needed to kind of speed Marriott up and he still couldn't get on the field. It'd be nice if they could figure out a way to use him to get after the quarterback, whether it's with his hand and the dirt or standing up and get him, you know, fifteen to twenty snaps moving him around giving him a chance to make some plays. They need to get him on the field. I think another adjustment. Somebody else that needs to be held accountable is Kyle manual. He's been pretty good against the run this year. But they've got him on the field way too much and teams are picking on him in again as a in coverage. And I think that's something that we will see more of you know, Tennessee didn't really do a lot of it. We didn't see the raiders really do any of it. But as we get more and more into the back half of the season. You can bet. The Steelers are gonna take advantage of it. I would expect the Seahawks. Try to take advantage of it. They seem to have a really good fuel for the charters coverages and how to attack it. That's kind of concerning. You know, I would think Kansas City, obviously understands that attack it playing the chargers frequently as they do. So that's something that also needs to get adjusted. And I think they need to take a look at Trevor Williams. I think he's not played very well. He's looked kind of indecisive and slow as confident as he was last year. He just doesn't seem to have that same confidence. You know? I don't know if he. You know, took it easy this this off season or it was a preseason injury. That heard or whatever the case may be, but he's just not the same guy. So they need to get another athlete on the field. They need to get some length on the field some speed and they've been doing it. But I think you might see more of Michael Davis in the second half of the season. So those are some adjustments to look out for I think they also need to have a focus on red zone. Scoring scoring touchdowns that is in the red zone. They're gonna have to make a decision on the kicker. And I also think they need to be better on third down. I think is a get start playing teams like Cincinnati in Baltimore, and Pittsburgh and Seattle and Kansas City third. Converting on third down. It's going to be paramount. Because I think they're going to have a harder time. Converting some of these twenty plus arts Blache plays that they've been getting against the Browns and the raiders and the titans of the world. So they're going to need to be more consistent and move the ball. More more methodically and convert third downs. Which is something they've not done. Well and from a red zone perspective. I think they need to do a better job of getting the ball in the hands of their best playmakers. We've seen them scheme plays for Tonio gates who is probably the fifth or sixth Beth best option on this team right now we've seen them scheme plays in the red zone for Virgil green, which has not worked. Find ways to get the ball Keenan in the red zone. Find ways to get the ball to Ecuador in the red zone. They've done a good job of getting the ball to Gordon. I'd like to see a little bit more of tyrel. We jump balls tyrel and Mike in the back of the end zone and the red zone just to mix things up there little predictable. And it seems like they don't really know what they want their identity identity to be in the red zone. So I'd like to see them work on that. So that's an idea of some adjustments. They can make in the second half to take this team the next level. This question is from ally. Hey, guys love the show. My question is do you think the charge will be able to resign Joey Bosa? The first contract was a disaster. I'm nervous that he might wanna go leave and play wherever his brother gets drafted. What are your thoughts? Why I'm not concerned about the second part? Nick Bowes is going to get drafted by a bad team. He's a top five pick at Oliver's, probably one. But he'll definitely make a case. And I doubt joy wants to go to the Browns or whatever terrible team is up there colts. I don't see that happening. But I think you're concerned about the charge reciting Bosa is true because I believe it to the team really fucked him over his rookie contract and wonder if that has lingering effects, I think about that a lot. I mean, Joey Bosa family got involved. It was a mess and the same team employees will be working with him on his new contract too. So. It's not like you got new guys in the house new faces to work on a new contract. You gotta think the feelings will come back up. But I'm sure Joey and his agency. No, it's a business. The charge will have the opportunity. I think with how this team is going, and the fact that he's been able to see the success with Ingram on the other side team is probably favored resentment is point. And you know, Tom plus was going to get him a fair deal. Joy is going to get a fair deal from Tom you always gives it to him. But the question is will Joey try to break the Bank. I'm not sure Lesko breaks if Joey wants it all, you know, if I'm Jim I'm giving, Joey whatever he wants to be honest with you, obviously, not anything. But. Is a guy. You gotta keep I think Tom glasco will be aggressive. But I do wonder if there are lingering effects from that rookie contract Bockel and the next question is from Luke and Luke says it seems to me the snap count for the linebacker group outside of Denzel paramount is pretty interesting. Why do you think the team continues to limit the wo- SU who had forced naps last game? And what do you think? What do you make the other linebacker snap counts compared to how they had been playing? Thanks love the show. Luke. So the linebacker snap count. I think is really Benard necessity. They've had they've had detailed Brown on the field with with Denzel Param and Kyla manual quite a bit in base defense. When Brown has been healthy we've seen that start to shift a little bit. I don't think Brown is playing all that. Well, he's not that great against the Ron and he's had his issues against the past. And we've seen in some instances we've seen Adrian Phillips walked down into the box and play that will roll both of the base defense and the nickel linebacker role. And frankly, I really think if you're looking at who's playing the best over the last three or four weeks, I think you could make a very strong argument that Adrian Phillips is the best linebacker on this team right now. So and that that includes that includes ends Opara pyramid. And I think we've even seen in some cases, especially against Tennessee. There have been instances where they've had Adrian Phillips playing the mic. So they're getting him on the field. They're getting more. Snaps. They're getting closer to Leonard scrimmage, and he's making more place and that has really benefited the defense. I think from a new Oeser standpoint, you know, I'm not sure what's going on there. If I had a guess, I would say they're not comfortable with the way he sets the edge against the run. Even though I thought he looks apprising Lee good doing that in the preseason. It just seems like they are weighing more comfortable with Kyle manual, and they are perfectly fine. Letting him get picked on and coverage if it means having him set the edge for a couple for handful runs every game. So it just seems like they're not comfortable with the most they either don't trust him and coverage. They don't trust him. To set the edge or both because he's just not seeing the field. He seen the field on a handful of third downs where he's been able to apply some pressure. But I would hope that his role will expand one way or another in the second half of the season to help them. Get after the quarterback a little bit more, particularly Joey Bosa doesn't make his way back as as quickly as I think he will. And I think you hopefully, we'll have some changes with the linebacker snap count coming up because hopefully 'cause you're white will be ready to go after the bye week or soon thereafter. And if that happens, you know, we could see a lot more nickel packages and dime packages, white and Phillips out there together, just because they're both so good and coverage, and I think white is going to get better and better against the run as they go. So that's my thought on the linebacker group. And again, thank you for the question. Luke this questions from Preston Walker. He says, and it's a long one. So I've been thinking about this idea ever since the charters moved LA I was born in. As in San Diego watching the chargers same here. It wasn't really that they moved or were they moved that irradiated me. It was what they were called, Los Angeles and San Diego had a number of sports rivalries. There's generally some animosity between the fans it was a slap in the face to every San Diego fan. But I realized I know how to make it all better while keeping the team where they are the so Cal chargers like the Golden State Warriors. They would represent the rest of the southern California with or without LA who aren't going to the games root for the chargers. Anyway, charter fans would love it compared to LA San Diego residents who have tickets would still drive to Carson LA doesn't care now and won't care after the name change as the top chargers gurus universe. What do you think? Go bolts press. Walker top end charters gurus. Awesome. Because I'm here to determine all good idea. It works for me. It's better than Los Angeles coma. So Cal chargers. I'm with it. I have spoken and last question here is from Daniel Glenn. And Daniel says the past few games are a very different story of Cleveland, Tennessee, San Francisco makes him very reasonable catches exploit are blown coverages. Take advantage of the great field position. We give them consistently on a special teams on special teams, by the way. Daniel think he could probably add the buffalo game to that. Because they they've dropped a lot of balls and the chargers boo covers in that game as well. Anyway, the rest of his question is to put a quite simply how good is his team will ABA will the compete win against good teams that will take advantage of those little mistakes, or will they disappoint if they have to go through can't Kansas City or New England. Should they make the playoffs or should? We just be happy. They're winning the games are supposed to win. First of all like, we talked about on the last podcast. I think it's encouraging that they're winning the games are supposed to win. Because in a lot of a lot of cases, they're doing the little things you need to win for the most part. And if they do those against teams they're supposed to be hopefully, the thought processes those things carry over against the better teams as well. So taking care of business when you're supposed to take care of business is a good thing. And it's something that you can hopefully build on in terms of how good is his team. I think that's a fair question. We talked about it on the podcast last week. I think they really the chargers really have not had that like chest thumping. We have arrived kind of win. I think. You could make an argument is Tennessee or Cleveland their best win. I think Cleveland was their most impressive win in terms of the way, they tore them apart and just killed them in the second half. I think Tennessee's probably the best team they defeated so far in terms of being a fringe playoff contender. But again, no real, you know, chest thumping, you know, this we've arrived. This is the one this is how we know kinda win. So I think it's fair to ask how good they are and Willie hold up in the playoffs. I think we're gonna learn a lot about them in the next few weeks. You know? We're gonna get into record predictions here in a minute. But you know, they've got Seattle right out of the by couple of weeks later. They've got Pittsburgh Cincinnati Kansas City in Baltimore stacked up one after another. So I think we're going to get a really good feel here in pretty short order for how good this team is and how they're going to hold up against good football team. So I don't I think it's a to be determined. I think they are accounted team. I think they're playing pretty well for the most part right now. And I think they are a good football team. Are they great? I don't know yet. I'd like to say they are. But I'd like to see some more tubes. I think they do have some things you need to clean up. And I think things are going to get much more difficult in the second half. So we'll see how they hold up that. Does it for the questions we are going to now do record predictions and for the record predictions? I will start Jamie will follow me. And as you listen to these. And if you're a fan of score more any listen to score more podcast doing. Fictions week by week in projecting. It out is a lot easier. And that's why I'm undefeated so far. So these are probably going to be different for the score more podcasts. So save your energy. Don't tell me about how I predicted at different online around podcast because I'm projecting out. So here we go week nine they traveled to Seattle after the buy tough place to play charges arrested. But for some reason, I can't think they win this game. I don't think they pull it out. I think they lose week nine against Seattle. Seattle isn't the team. They were their defenses nowhere near the legion of boom. And I understand that. But being on the road in Seattle in that stadium with a quarterback. Like Russell Wilson who I think can make a couple more plays the Marcus mariota. Did. I say Seattle takes vantage. They win that game week ten they play at Oakland against the raiders. That's a win. I got. A charge winning that game. And I think that's obvious week eleven they travel back home, and they are playing the Denver Broncos for week eleven I've got them winning against Denver. We're still trying to offload players quarterback questions almost started Chad Kelly. There's a lot going on there charges win that game. Then they face Zona, which is a very bad team now. And I think they win that game too. So they've won three in a row. And if you look at the schedule the chargers can get past the ATL here, there's a chance for them to be nine into before travelling to Pittsburgh to play that game, which might have some playoff implications. But if they can get past the ATL getting Oakland, Denver Arizona, kind of ramping up to play the Steelers might be good for them. But my scenario here, I got them lose. Going to the Seahawks. So lose week nine win against the raiders win against the Broncos win against Zona than they travel to Pittsburgh. And again, I think with that environment in Pittsburgh. I think it's going to give the chargers trouble. I think they lose this game week thirteen at Pittsburgh week fourteen. They play Cincinnati Bengals who are a more improved team better than most people thought they would be this year. But I still think the charters win that game. Then for week fifteen there at Kansas City on Thursday night. It's all about the environment so far and he's predictions. They can't get out of Seattle. They can't get out of Pittsburgh a hard time against Kansas City with Mahomes rolling towards the end of the year. And this game's probably going to be for the division. I think Andy Reid in the chiefs will be ready for the chargers, and they lose that game on Thursday night then week sixteen against Baltimore in prime time, which they flex now. This is a very interesting matchup. I think he's going to be really tough for the chargers to pull this one out. The ravens defense is really good. Their offense is in great. But this is the swing game. This who go either way, I got the charters losing against Baltimore. And then their finale week seventeen at Denver. They win charters finished ten and six probably good enough for a playoff spot. They finish five and four after the by not great some tough matchups. These games can go either way. So let's hear Jamie's predictions. So talking about the second half record predictions. When we did our record predictions before the season started. I had the chargers going eleven and five and I don't have my list in front of me. So I don't know exactly who I had them losing to. But I think if I'm not mistaken, I probably had them five and into the by. That's my guess whether or not they beat the teams I thought they'd beat. I'm not entirely sure. But I think I probably had them somewhere in that five and five and two six in one area. Just because of the schedule they had to start the season. And I think they get a big test out of the gate. You know, they go into Seattle Seattle has the number one pass defense. They have one of the best rushing offenses in the league. And they have that fantastic homefield advantage with twelve man where they are loud. And they are loud all game long, and they really make things difficult on the opposing offense. And you know, we have a time seeing the chargers struggled against plays in on time. They've had some issues with false starts and pre snap penalties when dealing with a lot of noise. Luckily, they have a lot of practice with these these silence nap count being that they basically play on the road every week when they're supposed to be at home. So I think it's going to be a challenge for them. I can't remember if I had them beating Seattle. Or not. I just I have a feeling they're gonna have a hard time with the crowd noise. I really do. I think it's gonna be loud. It's gonna be uncomfortable. They're going to have some issues getting play calls in. I think they're going to struggle with Flo. And they're going to have some false starts delay games. I think it's just going to be a very difficult environment. I think it'll be close. I think that pass defense gives them some problems. And I think the charters probably lose in Seattle. It's probably close. It's probably a low scoring game. I think it could wind up playing out a lot like Tennessee game. Did just just have a feeling about this game that it's not gonna go while I feel like the Seahawks have a really good feel for the weaknesses in. The chargers coverage schemes they know how to attack it seems like they always find big plays against the secondary in the preseason and regular season. And I think the running game is going to get a really good test this week or the running defense. I should say is going to get a really good test this week. So we'll see how it goes. I think it will be a good game. I think it'd be tight. Moving on. I think they beat Oakland not really concerned about that. I think they'd be Denver might be of relatively low scoring. But I think it'll be a good game from charges perspective. And I think they will win obviously have been beating Arizona don't think there's much of a threat. They're Pittsburgh game. I kind of went back and forth on that. Not. Really sure how good Pittsburgh is. But it's on the road. You know, you're getting into that November December timeframe their I it's early November. It's going to be cold. She'll be loud, it's gonna be really hostile. And again, some of those issues with the coverage schemes Steelers love to throw the ball around. I feel like Todd Haley is going to have a good idea at attack those coverage scheme, so they're gonna really need both back in that game. If they don't have both back in that game. I think it's a problem. And I've got them losing in Pittsburgh, probably another tight game. Maybe a little higher scoring. But I think they lose in Pittsburgh. I had them beating. Cincinnati. I have them losing the Kansas City until they prove otherwise as much love the pick them against Kansas City. I just don't like the match up of Anthony Lynn against Andy Reid. And I feel like there's so many weapons on the Kansas City offense. I think they're getting their defense into shape. And there's just something about Philip against that defense just makes me uncomfortable. And I'd love to eat crow on this. I'd love to be wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I have been losing that game. And then moving on to finish the season. I have them beating Baltimore because I don't trust of Joe flacco. I think it'll be a tough game. Just because Baltimore's defense is so good. I think their pass rush will give the charters a lot of problems. I think Baltimore will probably make some plays in the passing game. Because of the way they stretch the field. But I think the charges win that game ultimately, and I had them beating Denver in Denver to finish the. Season. So they're five and two. Now, I have them going six three down the stretch. So I still have them finishing eleven and five kind of back and forth on the Seattle and Pittsburgh games could easily see them. Splitting those two. But I think eleven and five is reasonable predictions. I'm gonna stick with that. I still have them. 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OITNB Episode 76: "Charged Up"

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OITNB Episode 76: "Charged Up"

"If there were world record progress delay of game it would go to twenty twenty. But even though the NBA had a break, your business didn't you have to keep moving and that makes hiring more important than ever indeed is here to help right now indeed is offering listeners a free seventy, five dollars credit to boost your job post, which means more quality candidates will see it fast try to eat out with the free seventy, five dollars credit at indeed dot com slash SB NBA this is their best offer available anywhere. Go right now to indeed dot com slash SB NBA terms and conditions apply offer valid through September thirtieth. And Welcome to the orange new black podcast I'm your host as Boogie my co-host Zim was unable to make it. So I'm flying solo today, but we're here to talk about week one, and one thing that I wanted to do is definitely do a preview of the bingles and chargers. Now I know that you guys know that we pretty much have the bengals inside, but I really wanted to get the chargers insight. So I had the pleasure of speaking with A. Straighter, brighter by the name of Fernando Ramirez. Thankfully Fernando was able to stop by we were able to talk things, bingos, rush chargers. So I hope you enjoy this in take a listen. All right, welcome everybody to new strap city a die hard youtube channel for diehard bingos. Fans I'm your host as Boogie and I'm I'm really excited about this guests that we have today. We're bringing on Fernando Ramirez of the sports illustrated world. He covers Los Angeles. Offer those that are not aware of you of of his work, a Fernando just give them a little bit of insight to what you do. Well, thank you for having me on I cover the chargers for sports illustrated I've been covering the team since I think Tom Tillis and I got there at the same right around the same time in two thousand, thirteen I was just doing some intern stuff and I was around the team and I got no guys like Allan Melvin Ingram and some of these guys and Once I graduated I got a job with NBC San Diego worked with them for three years and now. At sports illustrated just started about a month ago. So the teams familiar I'm familiar with the team, the teams familiar with me. So yeah. A little bit of the work that I've been doing lately is just because everything going on with Covid we don't get that one on one interaction anymore. So it's a little bit. I'm trying to do a little bit more feature stuff some of the fans. Because they don't get to go to practice, they don't know who the players are. You guys are. So I try and write some of those stories you kind of get them familiar with the players try and get them inside scoop. I mean honestly reporters like me or are the is for the fans. So we're there we're trying to get them the best possible coverage and that's a little bit of what I do. Right, right perfect and that's why we want to bring you on. Because you know like you said, you guys know the pulse of the team there's no one that knows the team more than you can, and especially in these situations, you literally like with them, not having fans at games and stuff like that. You guys are literally even closer So the first thing I don't want to talk about I know that intern and got familiar with the team. It was it was a disappointing season for Philip rivers last season right and we kinda felt like you outside or looking in I kind of knew that there was some. Friction there because he really didn't want to move all the way to l. a. and he just didn't have a great season last season. So he ended up moving on from the chargers. But what what really happened with Philip Rivers last year? Was it just a five time kind of caught up with them was this just not you know the perfect merging more a what was your opinion of what happened with Philip Rivers last season I truly think it's a little bit of everything I mean, yes. Like you said Philip was Kinda. His time was coming down the chargers needed to move on it was time but. It was a little bit of like, yes father time is starting to catch up with Philip rivers but the offensive line also was was kind of a mess Russell Luke Kuhn missed a couple of games due to a pulmonary Due to a pulmonary reason, and then you had some guys going down with injuries. They're just Mike. Pouncey left after week He got her after week I think. Four or five. So it was just it was just the perfect storm of everything that could go wrong went wrong. The charge actually were in a lot of those games last year and it was one of those things where you're like, okay they're in these games they lost a lot of one games and it was because Philip rivers were making a mistake late at times it looked like he was just chugging it into the ends are chugging it up there and it would get intercepted and you're like what going on and it's it just did not look pretty last year and I I just think that both. The Organization and Philip Rivers said it was time he was on the PAT. McAfee show the other day and he said that he noticed that a chargers Kinda wanted to move on get somebody young and that he thought you know what? Maybe it's time for me to move on as well and and try something else knew and he moved his family out. He moved his family to Florida and then he was kind of like, okay. We'll let me see what happens. Will somebody like me does somebody WanNa, pick me up. And indicate colonies like, okay. Let's move. We move all those ten or nine kids up to Indianapolis. Go to any. To Florida to Indianapolis. So That's not easy thing to do but But honestly, like it was just the time for the chargers to to get something new and then obviously the scheme Anthony Lynn I think wanted athletic quarterback i. think he wanted somebody who can move in the pocket do quarterback rollouts do. A lot of different stuff and that's what we have been seeing from the team The media has during practice they've been moving tyrod Taylor around Justin Herbert obviously can move and eastern stick moves. They're moving them out all around the field having do rollouts come out and stuff. So you can tell that this game has changed now that because I mean Philip rivers those old school stay in the pocket, take the heads but released the ball and all bad. So Yeah No, it was just it was one of those things where it was time in both Philip rivers and the charges in. The correct thing. They both said, hey, were deciding to part ways? No said he said. What happens does a good it was a good ending to a great fourteen to six or fourteen year with him under center sixteen years of him being with the organization ending to a relationship. Oh Yeah. Definitely that definitely put a nice bone. So you kind of brought up a justin harbored and tyrod Taylor and I've been watching some hard knocks. I've been watching hard knocks Los Angeles, and obviously with this draft with us picking borough, there were a lot of people that were also torn between two and Justin Herbert at some points before we really got into it. Like. Early on, you might not have known but early on a lot of people were Lincoln Justin Herbert to the Bengals I let s played out differently and for what I've grasped at least just from hard knocks is just in Herbert has an amazing arm. He's super talented way. It doesn't seem that he's ready yet it I think from some of the clips that I watched. Guys on defense where saying that he was kind of giving plays away and stuff like that, and obviously Anthony Lynn has come out and said that tyrod is going to start this season What are your thoughts on what tyrod Brusett a table, and is he going to really be the legitimate guy for all season or is he just kind of a stand in until just in Herbert, can come in next year and take the reins and what are your? Opinions from what you've seen from distant harbours will well first and foremost tyrod Taylor's on one year contract. Well, he's got a two year contract last year. He would be a free agent going into this off season so that honestly it's going to be a mystery to a lot of us if they're going to be willing to keep tyrod, signed him to a new deal after this I. Think it's GonNa I. Think it's GonNa come down to what happens this year. If, the charge ended up making it to the playoffs they go deep they beat and see, and that's what I've been telling people. I want a coach chargers first round matchup or something just to that love to see that dynamic but obviously going to that if tyrod takes them to the playoffs, he's healthy. All Sixteen Games I think the charges will could explore maybe franchise tag them for one year, and then keep him one more year to see what happens But just in Herbert is the future of this team Justin. Herbert. Is a quarterback who, yes, he's made mistakes, but honestly, he's growing from them and you can see that out here I. Think IF if they would've had a full off-season, I think this truly could have been a quarterback battle but because he didn't have the off season because everything was via zoom, he wasn't able to really fully compete just because right now he's learning the basics and that's what the charges are doing with all their rookies they're learning the basics are learning what's the difference between the NFL and and college football I mean I don't know if you saw on the clip Pep Hamilton who's been a great signing for the charged when he when they signed him I thought, wow this is an incredible signing just because you know what brings to the team but If you look at it like Pep Hamilton goes like dude, these defensive Lineman or as fast as you not is true these are fast I. Mean Joey Bosa is crazy athletic Melvin Ingram is crazy athletics. So these guys are as fast as you and justice understanding but one of the things that Justin does is he such a smart human being that he understands what he's doing wrong. He understands mistakes that he's making. So that is the the the thing about him is that he's understanding what he's doing is looking around he's like, okay, I miss this but I got this but I didn't do this but I did that. So he's honestly he's learning from his mistakes which. Is the best thing that a rookie could do I think honestly the best thing for him is the Richard this year not play I mean the only way I could see him playing is one if tyrod Taylor is injured during the season or if in the final game of the season, the chargers basically they're out of the playoffs are in the playoffs, but they can decide to rest some of their guys. Then I can see the chargers throwing them in their kind of like what Kansas City to Patrick mahomes throwing them in there the final game. Hey, rookie go out there learn what it is. It'd be in the NFL and let's see what you've got. And but yeah, like you said Tyrod tyrod. Justin has a huge arm. He he is. He's honestly impressive like there where we rose out to the right and he'd like makes it throw off his back foot like throwing it and you're like Oh, my God that was a sixty yard pass. Obviously, it was might have been incomplete but you're like Oh my God. This kid has talent this kid has. What it takes to be a quarterback yes he did give stuff away but you know what actually episode where he was giving away through was a runner-up path when Lin told them keep that team energy for it I would I would like literally close my eyes and listen to his snap counts you could tell he was doing it the same. He was a run He would be loud if it was a pass it was loud so Each time that he did it, it was perfect and. I could tell he really learned off of that. So honestly Kudos to him and he's learning. But yeah, like I said I think it's it's going to be a redshirt year for Justin Herbert. No I think that that's a great way to do it because with you having a veteran like tyrod, there's no better person or environment for him to grow up in because he came from that guy who's been a guy that's been around the League has been on the super. Bowl winning team has set in the room with Joe FLACCO and guys like that and I think that that's the perfect environment for him because obviously, like you said with and everything, it's just really strange off-season. You just WanNa throw him in there. do those circumstances when you have a veteran there obviously, the Bengals we're just have though Joe Borough in there because there's no way we're GonNa Ryan Finley out there we. but that kind of brings me to another thing that you kinda brought up at our another thing that we've kind of heard an off season. With Darwin James and I'm I'm a huge James Guy Because I used to I live in. Florida. Orlando now but I used to live Hassi very familiar with. The Florida State seminoles and I really wanted us to draft there when James and where you guys jumped up are you guys picked him? I was like Oh man, they're getting a great player and obviously he's been you know massive than NFL obviously a top one hundred player. But he goes down last week for possibly the season and then you've got Mike Williams. Another guy that I liked coming Outta at Clemson that I wanted for the bengals and he goes down what? What is the impact of those injuries because as a Bengals Fan, we've always had major injuries happened like Aj going down and stuff like that, and that's really hurt our team. How do those injuries really impact the chargers this season and going forward Heels charge in are kind of mirror of each other. Really is always happens You know what? Mike's Injury was just like he comes down on it and what cardinals didn't show you is all of us like the media we were talking Chattanooga and stuff and as soon. As. Soon as Mike is down the field, it goes dead silent and everybody's like Oh crap because as. I mean I've I've been around the charges for a while. So I remember when Ryan Mathews Tour his Oh my God I can remember he's collarbone he tour boat like he tortures called on his left side and then his right side I think on different season. So I mean you've been around that stuff in your own. And obviously as the media Wego as the chargers, let's go to worst case scenario broken all around but it ends up being just a shoulder injury which It's funny. We talked to Shane Stike in the offensive coordinator this week and he said Mike has to go in week one with the mentality of he's GonNa play. So that led me to believe that he might be a possibility that Mike does end up playing in the game. What might brings is something different that I don't think I mean we've seen with Julio Jones and all these other guys but I truly do think Mike is one of the top ten one of the top fifteen top ten receivers in the NFL just. because. He does. So he when the ball goes in the air and tyrod said this, it's an eighty twenty ball like Mike goes up there. I. Don't know how he does it and he just comes down with no matter what who's guarding him what's going on with him? So it's honestly He has a great skill set that you don't see in a lot of receivers. Now because I think the NFL is turning into more shifty receiver guys like Keenan? Allen. Who are great route runners who deceive you with their heads and? And they have great hands. But Mike is one of those old school, throw it up to him and he'll make the he'll make the catch. So that's what I asked him the other day on Mike. And Mike are the gain and the gang of offense her of receivers he's like, oh, totally he's like he goes up there he grabs. He's one of the best down the field receivers and I'm one of the best inside receivers where I can shift I can move I can do a lot of different things and And I can, and I'm elusive and on my no, that's definitely the best way to describe both of them so. Hopefully I mean for those guys Mike comes back and he's able to and he's able to play because I wanna say there's a huge dropoff between Mike and the next guy. But I will be It will be difficult for them to beat Cincinnati if Mike there and then when. When when you think about it two straight years of injuries and like you said like he's talented I mean hell has a media person I love watching her when James. That's why I was excited to see this was like okay Derwin with this all the town charge have on defense I was excited to see him but this is the craziest part of the whole thing Derwin James Enjoy only been on the field together for twelve games. In three years. And that's like, yeah, you're just like Oh my God like those like because honestly, if you look at it Joey, Bosa is one of the best defensive ends in the in the League Derwin. James Best safeties and you're not able to have that dual out there. So it's one of those things where you're like, golly like why can't we just put it all together and see them both on the field at the same time but Be I note Derwin reminds me a little bit of teen when he was first in the league first year boom everybody's like Oh. Wow. Okay. Maybe they have obviously a third round pick. Our DERWIN is a first round pick, but Keenan was hurt for two years. Two straight years you're like Oh my God no Keenan. Allen could this guy that had all that talent and just can't put it together then keenum put together three straight years restrain. Pro Bowls yesterday gets rewarded with a brand new contract. So hopefully during can rebound the way Keenan did and show everybody why he's one of the best safeties league because honestly it's defense isn't going to be fun to watch with our obviously they saw immense talent they have a lot of talent, but without genuine Jesus adds a whole new. Dimension to this defense definitely. Definitely. So you kind of talked about Kinna I personally was A. Fan I think like you said, even following him in draft that year I thought that he should have went in the first round but obviously, not yet injuries in college stuff that kind of pushed them down and I honestly wanted the Bengals to take them and we ended up taking Jones as one of his teammates but I just knew from day one that he was he was a special. Receiver. So obviously, like you said, he's got the big contract. Some people were surprised by that because it was twenty million, a year of do you think that I personally think that he was desirable at the contract but do you think that he was desirable the contract and do you view Keenan Allen as a top five receiver because most people would say since he's now the second highest paid receiver? Those expectations are going to go up. So what's your opinion on Keenan Alan from a contract standpoint and if he is tough. I do believe that Keenan is top five being we haven't seen a receiver Keenan and a while. Keenan's different US more of like you'll beach like I'm telling you I watch his footwork. That's. What I'm watching that will more at the Games I have my binoculars and I've watching Keenan, Allen's footwork when releases off the line of scrimmage like it doesn't matter you put Brandon Browner a big old cornerback against him and Keenan just so elusive that with his footwork, you'll be able to beat them off the line and it's just one of those things where you're like, oh, my urine all because of what he does he's elusive he has his numbers. The only thing is that last year. Phillips shruggled the team struggled and that obviously Keenan Allen is dependent of the quarterbacks of quarterback struggles obviously keenum's GonNa struggle but even in such a bad year that the team had five eleven keenan silted up, really good numbers of being is that Keenan doesn't score a lot of touchdowns. He scores six can like in the last three years. He scored six I chance I need to the last few seasons. So that's one of the reasons why a lot of people are like, Oh, well, Keenan's player. As to who are the guys that we talk about Julio Jones Jones in Atlanta he went to a super bowl. Recently, you talk about when obviously I mean Yeah Julio Jones one of the best receivers in the league what he does is incredible. Then you go and you look tyreek Hill tyreek hill one miserable Asher I recall is a big play a guy he's flashy he's very. And that jumps out to you Jean is like not I don't want to say that he's a hard worker. He's the one that digs like he just does everything and The team hasn't one recently. So obviously, you don't think about kidding Alan because you think Oh, well, if a team is winning, that means top receivers doing well so Keenan was regarded. As a top receiver, the year that they went twelve and four, but two seasons in between he hasn't been regarded at because the team hasn't one. So and that's what Casey Hayward and Chris Harris Junior set. When you win, you're seen as a top player. Why don't you? You're seen as an underrated player subpoenas looked at as an underrated player because of that. But I do think Keenan's He is a top receiver I think he's Mike what he does and then another thing is is. is receivers coach Vilma Geoghegan he tweeted out Keenan blocks, and that's the thing like a lot of receivers I'm not saying that a lot of retrievers don't block the waken blocks is nasty goes up. He gets re right like an offensive lineman right in between the numbers and we'll wrestle cornerback down and that's something that you see typically from a Lotta received a lot of receivers will run up and they'll be like, okay cool. Like just hold each other right here. Let's. Teaming up, grabs you in between the numbers and you'll try and cake you which I said you're just not seen from a receiver. So I think when you talk about all around yet Keenan Allen is a top five receiver. He was deserved of this money and it's going to be really interesting to see how he takes his game to the next level. Because if you look on his instagram, he's been working hard this off season. He he said Yacov is going on, but I still need to work i Sony to prepare myself to take my game to the next level. So I think he has done that. Yeah definitely I like I said I'm a huge. Fan going back even before he was drafted there. But. Wasn't even. Though I love the way, he talks on twitter. Like, I'm not gonNA keep quiet anymore I'm a top five receiver like youngest playing and I just started laughing on my team in. That respect. Exactly. Yeah definitely. So Before, we get out of here. I definitely have to ask you what are the keys to the game for the chargers in order for you guys to come in and get a week one win against the bengals. I think the coaches have kind O- Melania, pat talk about it the other day, and it's and this is for the whole season, not just against the bengals but getting to the quarterback charge the chargers dot limbaugh Joseph he is a he is a huge human being and I. It's funny because I wrote a story the other day about the different adjectives that his teammates have been using one I. said it refrigerator with legs guys have been a mammoth of a Human Joey Bosa call on the strongest lineman he's ever. He's ever known Semtex v the left tackle was like dude I. got matched up against him. He just like push me back I'll. got a little nervous off of that because they're like Woah left tackle shouldn't be getting push back like that. But Lindvall, just humongous the thing is. When you look at it, the charge getting constant pressure from the edges, you never get up the middle. So quarterback can step up step in and boom with why the charges got. Limbaugh Joseph is because they want the guard and the senator be pushed back into the quarterback and the quarterback be suffocated by all the pressure that he just falls right into Melvin Ingram are Joey Busse. So I thought it was a good signing another guy that you're gonNa hear about his Justin Jones he's the the other defensive tackle he has been putting in the work this off season and Joey Bosa Lindvall Joseph Melvin. Ingram coaches have been telling us about him. He's a good against the run defensive tackle but they think that he's put the tools together to be a good pass rushing defensive tackle. So the team is very excited about him and I think that that's going to be one of the keys. The other key is, how is this charger offense GonNa? Hauer they're going to be able to play together with no off season I, mean the. The talking to tyrod Taylor it seems like being here lash really help them understand a playbook and he understood the offense got to know Keenan Allen Gotcha no Mike Williams Hunter Henry often it feels like they're going to be very comfortable. I think if he would have came in this off season then it would have been a little bit tougher just because he's a new quarterback coming into a new environment but I think tyrod. Antena be interesting to see how the and operates of the offense can be what a lot of people believe. It's going to be our offense You throw the of the bucky now and Mike Williams Hunter Henry spread it around and everything than the bengals defense IBM for tough day but I think the bengals are down trae Wayne's if I'm Right. Yeah. So It'll be tough for constrain obviously Keenan. Against each other for year for a couple of years now. So I think that whatever corners lined up against Keenan might have a hard time keeping up with him. Just, because of like I said the elusiveness speed the way he shifts and everything but if the chargers offense can be high-powered and do well, I think. They'll be able to come out with a victory but everything I've been seeing Cincinnati is no pushover even though people predict them to be foreign twelve and eleven whatever. I know the charger not going in there thinking there's going to be easy Cincinnati since he's tough and. Nobody seemed Joe Borough and that's the funny part. You don't even have practiser Film, of Joe Borough. So that's that's the one thing that you're like Oh my god I wonder what that'd be so interesting to see Joe Borough and in his first in legit in his first NFL game against The chargers defense, right? Oh. Yeah. I mean I. I would say that most people in Cincinnati definitely worried about Joey Bosa and like you said, Melvin Ingram had defense allowing because like you say it, it's funny to you said it earlier because I've thought about this because I had a friend of mine. That was chargers fan is going all the way back to win. They were in San Diego these teams really have very much a lot of things in common like is it just like their mirror images of each other like you say struggle with injuries we have like the worst look like I used to think that the bengals were like the team that had the worse look and then I met a charges fan and I had to learn about everything that you all had been through as well So like you said, he's Bad. Going back to two thousand, Thirteen playoff game I thought, oh, the bengals are gonNA blow these guys out on. Okay I can start. Asian see where I'm. GonNa go Yup. nope. nope. Vacation for you. You had to go to Denver the week after. One of those. Hanging up day. I. Guess we'RE WE'RE GONNA continue that I thought the bengals all the time they they were gonNA blow the chargers out. One I was like, oh. Wow Mike. What is still have I still have nightmares Danny woodhead and like Ryan Braun taking off again. In. The. Definitely definitely. So before we get out of here, I want to say thank you for. Giving us your time and stuff like that. But I wanted to open the floor because I know you're probably interested in some bengals stuff. But so did you have any questions for me in terms of like questions that you had about the big ones going into this game? Joe Mixing just got a new contract, right? Yes Joe. Mixing? He's been. He's been pretty solid for the bengals. Cheers hasn't he yet? Joe Mixing has been very good. So, there's there's two factions of our fan base. There are fans I would probably say that they're in the smaller minority. There are fans that were just like Oh. You don't pay running backs look what happened to look what happened to all of these guys around the league. You don't pay running back. There's a lot of us that were happy me included about the. Extension because Joe Mixon number one, he's a great running back. He he actually doesn't get I think the credit he really deserves because of how bad how bad offense line was like if you look at his numbers at the beginning of the season, it's like a miracle and when I talk about that, I mean the first half it's a miracle that he rushed eleven. Hundred yards behind that line but I think the thing that is even more important I witnessed this person when I went to the game he is a guy that just loves football like no matter what's going on even when we only were winning two games last season, he was a guy that was always energetic and he really kind of became a leader for the. Team and I remember at the game that I was at unfortunately, it was the forty niners We've got blown out for the game. He's the one coming over to the crowd and pumping everybody up and he's just got this energy about them. Let's just infectious that this guy loves football and he's ready to rally the troops and we've got a lot of guys that. Aren't like they're really good on the field when when I said I mean like Aj Greens and Gino. Atkins. But they're not really big vocal guys like they kind of lead by example, and they're not gonNA kinda rally the troops and stuff like that, and even any doubt until the sense he wasn't really got at really you know commanded the locker room rally guys up. But that was Joe Mixing. So I think a lot of it is not just a he's a running back but he's low key. Now that we have borough, he's kind of stepped in aerobic before that he low key kind of the leader in the locker room. What. EXCITES you about. Joe Borough. I everything about job I may I don't I? Don't mean the down Andy Dalton or anything but from day one I kind of looked at Andy Dalton as a guy who was a quarterback that's just as good as what's around him right. So if you surround him with great weapons, he's going to give you some solid play but went one of those guys like Aj Green Goes. down. Or Tyler effort or any of those guys goes out he's not going to be the same guy. He's not a guy that can win you the game. He's not a guy that inspires confidence when you're down by multiple scores, Joe Borough I think is a guy that number one inspires confidence his attitude just just attitude like before we even had the first Greenwich he had a rough. Day Similar Justin, Herbert who's throwing interceptions getting back in the next day he's like the first guy in the locker room I guy on the field and he just completely torches the defense without having a AJ green or any of his starting receivers, and when I saw that it was just like man this guy, this guy is crazy and the fact that they're also trusting him to make. Changes on on the fly like if he goes up there, he's allowed to audible I think what's so impressive about him is his I q half he's picking on things and I heard guys like Aj Green even came out and said Joe is going to be great for the next for ten years which I thought was kinda crazy because it's like you know he's a rookie. This is Kobe we've only say Certain stretches but I think based on just going back to college and everything you just Kinda get this confidence when you're behind Joe now, we have to see this stuff happen but from what I've seen with like fans that have going obviously fans aren't allowed at the scrimmages but in Cincinnati, there's literally a bridge worry about this. Especially when it comes to Bill Belichick, there's literally a bridge Canetti that you can sit on and watch practice. So a lot of fans have have actually watched him from there in said that he's thrown nothing but dime. So I'm excited to see that because we've gone from a quarterback that relies around everyone being around him and guys that we've had around him haven't been the healthiest on. So Jonesboro to meet what excites me about him that he can raise the level of guys around him if they go out similar to. Philip rivers. Might I add you know when and Allen and guys would go down. As a Jew to coming out and catching two touchdowns on. So that aspects of it definitely intrigues me. I think if he wins you guys are Super Bowl instead of just lighting a cigar lighter with like. One. Hundred hundred dollar bills I think that's how. You would definitely do it. Oh, definitely. They would. They would worship him here forever Oh my God. For. Sure. For sure. Hey, I want to be respectful of your time. Fernando. So thanks for coming on. But before you get Outta here, let Bengals fans and just people that are watching this in general show we'll get some chargers fans on here. Let them know where they can find your stuff 'cause it's really quality stuff I appreciate it. Yeah. It's a sports illustrated just put charges on there and it'll take you to my site obviously on twitter at Real F- Ramirez I'll be doing some stuff this week. About Joe Borough and just how the chargers might attack him and everything. So definitely be on the lookout for that and I honestly I appreciate you having me on the show and and you want to have me on I'd be happy to do it. Well, that concludes our show. Thank you guys for tuning into Orange is the new black podcast. Be Sure to subscribe to this podcast name since he jungle Angura PODCAST, platform store and Be Sure to follow me on twitter at new stripe city follows him as. Being to follow them on Instagram at Zim. Underscore. And follow me on Instagram at Shrimp City, and then you can also find my stuff on new stripe city on Youtube. Let's going to be it for the show hopefully to bingos get outta this week one with the win I think that they could but as usual will leave you guys who day.

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AP Laboratory - Patrick Mahomes' year, NFL opt-outs, Joey Bosa, Tedric Thompson (Ep. 171)

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AP Laboratory - Patrick Mahomes' year, NFL opt-outs, Joey Bosa, Tedric Thompson (Ep. 171)

"Everybody thanks for joining. US Today. Swanson business the Arrowhead Pride. Laboratory it's the Wednesday edition. and. It's been a very expensive day for Patrick Mahomes. We're GONNA, talk about that and more and here to help me do that are my dear pals. I find him on twitter chief in Carolina. Mattie Lane. Milliken I'm doing. Well, thank you for asking I. would like to congratulate and say thank you to all of our fans decided to hop on twitter. Try to get Craig South Renaissance Man Verified. If you haven't yet please jump on that, it was a special gift to him. So if you follow me on twitter, you now know why just like Ben Niemann? Who is number fifty six craig style was celebrating his fifty sixth birthday on Monday. It was a happy day. All he really wanted was to get verified and get that blue check mark on twitter were almost there guys I can feel it. We are so close please let them know that at barley hop needs the biggest blue checkmark that they can find. I'll let you guys in a secret here. These guys thought my birthday was last Monday. If you go back and you listen to the podcast Mattie as intro ing me and I'm waving him off because I'm saying, no, it's not my birthday because it wasn't. So matty started interim me and then pivoted into this verified bit that I also hate. So please stop sending me and tagging me things it says save on the fly it was very radio. Why was like a decent? Wasn't a great save it was okay like I think people listening to it. We're probably like. That's weird but I still think it's an adequate job from a Mattie Lane doing that I personally listen I'm not sold. It wasn't actually Craig's fifty, six birthday at this point in time like I think there's a giant mystery on this, we do need to get Scooby Doo and the gang. This because I think there is a chance the craig style did in fact, hit the big five six just like been Neiman's Jersey number as they share a birthday I think it's quite possible. Do you know what? Patrick Mahomes Royal Jersey won't be five six, but it might have to be five four because that would celebrate super bowl fifty four and the royals they might be able to sell mahomes jerseys now. Because Patrick Mahomes. Is a part owner of your Kansas City royals at I could not be more elated, Craig what a day for crate for Patrick mahomes buying the royals and he's got a new whip. I mean might do this is this is the year of Patrick Mahomes. Now, let's let's be careful with that Ferrari eight twelve super fast that he's driving right now who knows it? He bought that we don't know that Clark didn't call a dealership down the road and say, Hey, this man, save me a Lotta money and signing bonus this year we wanNA keep him happy. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA go ahead and buy him that for. All right. That's my wild theory that I've got out there. But yeah, Patrick Mahomes. Share, of Kansas. City like I, mean. If, you didn't think that he was you know part of this town you know Ford Ten or twelve years however, long contracts is going to take him in Kansas City. This is just further proof that he's here for the long haul. This isn't a short term thing for him. It's and I mean I I made the joke earlier build the statue now like. This town loves him already it's, not GonNa Change it's only GonNa get better build the statue now. So we can get pictures of him when he's young standing next to it yet if you're a cheese fan or Patrick mahomes family, you can be nothing but absolutely excited for this because for the simple fact that craigslist said like, Jack, he signed the ten year contract which should make you feel pretty comfortable but now he's going out of his way to. Kind of submit himself from the community. He is part of the city of Kansas City. He is now a part of its history and everything with the sporting history at the very least, and so you feel good and like Craig, said, make the statue already get it done get it over with yet it's only a baseball team. But at the same time he's winning super bowls for the real sports team so we can all be happy on every level. This is a second level. mahomes buying the royals is just a different level of. Commitment to a community that I've ever seen. It's it's unprecedented like everything about this dude has been unprecedented this point in his career. But this is this is. So special. How committed he actually is to this city and it's just. I there's not very often that you can say it's more than more than just about the paycheck obviously, Patrick mahomes getting paid half a million dollars, but the structure of the contract makes it very friendly for the football team to pay the best player in the world. Do, but also have the flexibility. But this dude is actually committed to this city. He wants to be here for the next twelve years he bought part of the team, the baseball team next door he's going to deliver this city and NBA team he can run for the governor of Missouri Someday and win. He can run for the governor of Kansas, he could run for president and I'm pretty and he would carry Missouri Carry Kansas. There's no doubt about that. It's so cool to see Patrick Mahomes. Say He's really committed to this city. Say He really loves the city and then show the kind of love has for the city by doing things like buying part of the royals. Mattie you say we have breaking news and this is not exactly the chiefs, but it's AFC west. So I feel like it's relevant the chargers and defensive in Joey. Bosa have reached an agreement for a five year one, hundred and thirty five, million dollars extension that seventy eight million dollars fully guaranteed at signing a hundred to guaranteed. It's an NFL defensive record that is A. Lot of money going to the not as good Bosa locked up for five years in four arrival of the chiefs and the biggest. This is partially breaking news for our podcast here I, just want to get your guys thought like, what do you think about Joey Bosa? Bing across from the chiefs for the next five years on the biggest defensive and contract in the NFL fairly. That man got paid more than Myles Garrett that doesn't make any sense to me like that. That baffles hundred. Dollars guaranteed here guys. That's myles Garrett. It's a better football player period, I think he's a significantly better football player even so I, I mean, if you're a chief's Fan, yeah as long as Mitch Schwartz's around, you're locking up. Joey Bosa that's good. I'd keep him he in. You know wherever the chargers are going to play after they move 'em because they still have no fan but keep him with that team because that's that's I mean he's a he's a really good pass rusher but I frankly that's a lot of money to tied to a guy that. Isn't the same kind of impact player, some of the other guys getting paid around him. Okay. So they chargers just committed twenty. Committed to Joey Bosa for the next ninety. Games. How many of those is he actually play? I don't know he's got an injury is. That's like I think about that like also like. I know I know that they don't play the same position. And always pixelated that maybe he'll play the same position but this year. I would rather have Chris. Jones at twenty million dollars a year then Joey. Bosa twenty seven, million dollars a year. I think Oh. Yeah. I. Don't think that's particularly close for me. I like yeah. Yeah. I know they don't play the same position but like I I I think hands down like. Br reached in well, you're looking at some of the inflated contracts have happened. Is Joey Bosa the second best player his position no. Oh so Chris Jones is arguably the second best player at his position so. Period. It's not equivalent. Oh, man that's unbelievable. Frank Clarksdale looks really good right now. Really good to Marcus Lawrence and Frank Clark both signed big contracts last year and everybody kind of talked about how big of contracts were some people thought that both of them were not great. Both of those contracts look absolutely outstanding right now I don't think you can see here no matter what your opinion is of Cork or demarcus Lawrence and say that Joey Bosa hands down heads and shoulders seven, two, billion dollars worth a year better than them. Yeah, they'll steal blue this this knocked my socks off a little bit what we're four years. Three years removed from the chargers not even wanted to pay him his rookie asking price, and now they're over here literally opening their wallet and their friends wallet in their uncle. Wallet for him to take whatever he wants out of it. It's just a wild terming good for the chargers. Fans that now that the team's going to be completely invested in Ron not like a mom and pop's organization. That's a lot of money for a very, very, very good defensive end that is not elite. chargers fan. Is Very. Excited to have Joey Bosa. chargers fan. Everybody. Bake you for dropping in their Matt Mattie, Lane Credit Mattie Lane with this news this he broke it before twitter. Of course, you know One of the other things we're going to talk about is starting to see the wave of opt outs that are coming through the national football league players making the decisions for their health for their family. Recent parents making this decision. To forego this season opting out really before the seven day window or that that really is supposed to happen with when the collective bargaining. There's guys making this decision now what do you think about all of it? Mattie, and in where do we go from here I think we have to start with our home team here the Kennedy chiefs we talked a little bit about Clutch Assembly earlier this week about him being on the chiefs. Now, the reason he's on the chiefs is because Laura. Duvalier Tardif decided to opt out the season. So he could go help his community using his medical skills performing as believe in orderly. They said, I can't remember exactly what they're calling it worries from but essentially his doctors using his doctorate degree he is going to go out he's going to help us community. He feels like if he's putting himself in danger should be there. So Kudos to him like that's a round of applause for L. bt for making that decision for not just himself he just. Listened to his heart and did what he had to do. Hopefully, that's the only chiefs opt out. We did just because quite simply it makes your football team a little bit worse when guys decide to do that and I'm not holding it against them whatsoever if you don't feel safe being around, you know the covert virus or anything like that. Please don't go to your job if you don't absolutely have that goes out to NFL. Players but you look at a team like the Patriots they're. Losing like twenty five percent of their starters who decided to opt out and get more power to them. But that's a lot of talent that's just going to sit out this season of football because of what's going on. So hopefully for the cheese, their plan has been approved by the NFL hopefully, nobody else decides to opt out this point in time you can keep the full roster together try to repeat but yet there's a lot of guys making that decision right now for themselves and their family. And yet for the Patriots as Patrick Shown Dont`a hightower brandon bolden marcus cannon I mean those are not small names. Those are big name players for them I. There's a couple of others that have you know Kinda backed out so far Eddie Goldman for the bears as big name Starla to delay for the bills is a big name, Andre Smith for the Ravens. So I mean this is not going to be a small thing and we're not done the the clock starts ticking on the deadline for this when the. NFL and the NFL PA had their agreement seven days from. Then that's when the deadline is that you have to. You know basically put in for your opt out I think we may see more players coming down the line I think we may see more changes and this is going to affect not only the chiefs but the teams that they are playing so far this year it's going to be very interesting to see over the next you know eight, nine, ten days whenever it is that they get this thing done. I, it's going to be very interesting to see who all ends up opting out of this twenty twenty season. and. I. Don't want to hear one person. In, my mentions complaining about a player making a decision for him and his family you're I I can't I frankly guys I don't care if Patrick mahomes decide to sit the season out I. understand it would ruffle some feathers. This is put yourself in that position. If you're if family was in a situation, where is high-risk, which by the way, a large faction of the NFL is qualified as a high risk player. A high risk individual in this structure in which they've negotiated I believe I saw something seventy percent of players fall into some of the high risk categories it's you've got to make these decisions for for your family. You got to make these decisions for your own. These are all human rights. So please just don't don't get your feathers ruffled. If someone of significance on this football team decides to make a move please don't just just respect them. As human beings. As as the same way, there's families it's not like you're immune to any of the stuff that we're all dealing with in our society just because you're a football player. All right. We're going to take a break and we'll be back with some depth chart competition that Maddie wants to do right after this. I remember I used to have a history teacher at Ucla who said to us that there are times when you could feel the fist history tightening around you. Thought about that. She was talking not long after nine eleven but this is another one of those moments is a hinge moment in the American democratic experiment. The entire globe is battered by the current virus. We're dealing with some of our oldest moons in this country on top of entirely new technologies, and it is a crazy time. 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Don't you just lay out what you want to do here this isn't a competition in any way shape before this is just three good football buddies coming together to predict the final fifty three man depth chart of the Kansas City chiefs before training camp really gets on the way you know it's a little bit of an advantage this year because there's only going to. Be, eighty guys at camps. We already got a few cut downs and I mean to pull the curtain back. We talk to each other a lot would we're not podcasting is a lot of our choices are going to be the exact same. So we have not talked about this at all off the podcast you're going to get this all wide. So when we do disagree it is going to be bare knuckles, blood sweat and tears put into this debate we are going to fight to the death until we decide who is making the AP laboratory Kansas City cheese fifty, three depth chart every single position. There will be a championship bill involved. There, there will be a belt vault anklet but. Wasn't in for this before but now I'm super in I'm going to witness Craig legitimately perked up. When win with the mention of a championship belt was thrown out there Okay. So all right. WE'RE GONNA go ahead and start with the running backs to make this football team and you you have to do number and you have to do the names. I'm going with four running backs and I didn't feel good about it. Butts Clyde Edwards Layer Damian. Williams De'andre Washington and Daryl Williams. The only caveat is I. Think I think Damian Williams could be traded in if they trade Damian Williams, they're not replacing with Darwin Thompson they're keeping three and they're using that extra position to help solidify a different spot because there is a very tough choices on this fifty three man roster for me. I am going with five on Nisa. Collided Layer Damian Williams. Deandra Washington and Darwin Thompson and Anthony Sherman those all my. Sherman he is a running back can't. All right. Fine. I got five through. There okay whatever he gives a give the man some love I know. You gotta put them somewhere. I think that team will keep as many of those guys as possible. Especially since the only one of them that hasn't been around this organization over the past year is the rookie first rounder that's definitely making the team I just think that in a season of potential upheaval if somebody tests positive somebody has to sit for a couple of games, I think going to the well entrusting running back that has been around for a year is going to be more important to this team. Kit who was your third running back? Uh Technically De'andre Washington. So for me I have running back. One is Clyde Edwards dealer running back to is Damian. Williams running back. Three is Daryl Williams. That's I think with the first big difference comes I. Think I'm higher on Daryl than these other two guys in terms of my depth chart, and that's simply because they trust him so much on third down, they put him out there over Leshan McCoy, Damian Williams a ton last year on third downs mostly for his blocking, but he shown the ability to catch passes they've run. Big Daryl Williams down the seem thrown him. Football's fifteen twenty yards downfield. He's trusted there. So I have him as the running back three I would have deandra. Washington. Right after that Anthony Sherman at fullback I don't have Darwin Thompson making the teams I think Craig's alone on that one and my simple. My simple reason is for the fact that Darwin Thompson is should be receiving running back with his skillset. He should be a good receiver he's not. He only runs flat routes in still doesn't get very many targets. Ninety. Okay. I was probably seventy percent of his receiving yards came off a screenplay. The only screenplay I saw him run in the last five games of the season against new, England that was seventy percent of his receiving yards like that's just not repeatable. If you can't be receiving running back when you're open space running back kind of player I, just don't think they can use him. I think the Andre Washington's a little bit more proven in that regard. So he gets that final spot to be because I think the chiefs will keep four true running backs. They always suffered injuries eighty reason, but very clear that he likes bodies at that position. I think I think the Andre Washington's your third down Guy more dynamic pass catching ability although I think clydes probably GONNA wind up getting some of that too. But I think you. Designate guys like you're kind of. John Washington? Dare Williams's my four but I think he's going to be the special teams guy I think he's going to be a you WanNa roster him I think you need to roster darryl is because he is a he's capable of a lot of different things and he's probably one of the better pass protectors on this roster and he's a good special teams player or a capable special teams in probably more than the Andrea Washington but. It's kind of a moot point honestly between three and four but I do think both of those make it for different things. I I do think the DRE. Washington and Daryl Williams is the battle for me like I think that they are be three for rb three. Yes I I've got. Darwin. Thompson is our before. I don't think he's necessarily competing with them I think. That's one of those. Listen this guy's an athlete. Let's try and keep him in the building another year. See if we can get a little more out of him like not willing to give up on him just yet. That's that's my logic behind it and between De'andre Washington and Dare Williams, it's I'm going with the guy that pat has played with before and I think. That's absolutely I now that Craig says that it is in kids point to Daryl Williams Deandra Washington are kind of competing for third down running back reps win both running backs and edit them or probably better third down running backs already as so is weird but Israel is that really going to be a defining factor I'm still with Daryl Williams ability to be pats protector. In having the trust of the team already but I get Craig's point years if you're if you're going to get rid of one of them, because they're fighting for the same position, keeping your draft picking Dr Thompson around make some sense. I'm just not willing to flip it around yet because Darwin Thompson I just don't see him do anything better than anybody on this Rosser. We liked Darwin Thompson coming out to. We fifth round grade on and he wound up going in the sixth or seventh. And there's so Darwin Thompsons was some of the most fun tape to watch as a rookie or as a as A. Junior at Utah State. But there's just so many lapses with him in his rookie year that make me doubt if he's ever going to make it Patrick mahomes through on at the back of his head in the AFC championship game because Darwin wasn't right and then later in the game, you're going to see an article have working on an pride. He ran angle route was wide open after communications really great design Darwin, Thompsons Wide Open and Patrick Mahomes doesn't even look at him and Patrick Mahomes work to the backside ex immediately and it was just like, nope, we're good it just threw it. He threw it to Sammy. So I I don't have a ton of over for Darwin Thompson there is still a lot of hope for Darwin Thompson out there. I just don't see it. I just can't see it the way. Some other people do. All right. Wide Receivers to make the team Mattie laid out for us. I think it's pretty obvious. The I watch Iverson be tyreek Hill and we could break these down into positions. Would you want to go through your list here guys but I'm just GonNa keep it a little simple for now tyree kills number one Sammy Watkins is number two. He is. You'RE GONNA play your ex wide receiver position though like he is your guy on the Whitest scrimmages, your possession receiver that support note for here in a little bit. Wide Receiver three demarcus Robinson. I still think he's trusted a little bit more than the other guys on the roster this point in time he plays on the outside a little bit better because tyree kills kicked into the slot. So often wide receiver before McColl. Hartman Wide Receiver Five Byron Pringle I think pringle has a good edge to make this roster because he's the only other guy that can take. Sammy. Watkins role, he's the only other X. wide receiver they have anywhere on the depth chart and that's it. Five wide receivers. That's where I draw the line that sounds not like not very many. The chiefs did that last year for multiple weeks they only had five. You get specialties contribution out of the final three guys you're. So I, think you're giving special teams players and guys to help the offense. And those five that they kept last year those same exact five and I for all the exact same reasons I won't blame the point I'm going with the exact same five I think that it's fairly clear on this. They didn't invest heavily in the draft trying to get you know a guy I I think that you know we we like collage lip some a little bit but I still think that he's destined for the practice squad I don't think that that's a guy that's necessarily somebody that they've gotta protect. So I'm going with those five same as Mattie. Guys, we have more breaking news here on the AP, laboratory Oh, my goodness, her per friend of the show Tarez Paler. The chiefs have agreed to a deal with seahawks safety former. Crc Safety Tedrick Thompson. ooh He's a younger guy too I. believe. He hasn't been a league that long I'm trying to. I'll want to kind of look up his contract but like feels like so initial reaction was excited because I liked him his first couple of years in Seattle. He kind of started losing opportunities. Next reaction after I got the excitement is one thorn hills recovery not where we want it to be why are we considering adding a safety? So late in the process, well, because our Armani watches extremely replaceable. and not very good at football. Rodney. Clements is the facility on I. Hope that's the case but I just think that that is a thought that crossed. My head is now that they are getting into the building, one thornhill is coming off an injury. They are now getting into camp are we may be about to get a little bit of news about where he's at his recovery I mean one torn hills in the building, right? Don't we want the one hills in the building. Do they They typically allow injured players to come in at the same time as QB's rookies if he's been in the building that would be an indicator for sure in federick. Thompson. Is Free Safety like that. That's what he is. So this is not like all we got another box guy they this is this is a deep safety type out. Now to be fair though. He wants really the only guy that they have. Correct, correct I mean they they play. Oh, I need this couldn't it could be it could oh, sorry go craig. Yeah. They play a lot of split and Dan Sorenson plays deep in some of those split reps they they had. You know Kimball Fuller Jordan Lucas dime reps playing those those split Debretts bribes as well. But yes, most of the time it was one up top there I think federick Thomson from a roster construction standpoint makes a lot more sense than a minor watts. I think there's a little bit more versatility and flexibility in your secondary if it's Tajik Thompson instead of our money watts also. Tetra. Thompson doesn't stink. No like this is a this is a nice late season signing. I'm kind of I didn't know he was on the market frankly. It looks like I'm trying to do some research on the flyer but I mean he's only twenty five years old. This is a young football player who Beyond. I just didn't last beyond his rookie deal and he might have been a cap casualty I'm learning here as we're kind of just picking things up here. I believe he went on I r during the middle of last year, and then he was just released afterwards. That's that is the case. Will they traded for Quadra digs from the lions wants Thomson I was injured before or that happened after waited for another shaky. They traded for another safety. So they had Bradley McDougal end digs playing safety Tajik Thompson. Got Hurt at some point in time. He was then cut I. Don't know if there was a reason or not. But he he earned starting reps with that team playing that Centerfield role in the Seattle seahawks cover three. That's what he was good at in college that is a skill set the chiefs really only have one safety excels out on four hill. I just find the timing really peculiar if you didn't think Armani Watts Rodney Clemens where you're next. Safety you've had a Lotta time to fix that right now as everyone's coming into the building camp and maybe it's not one thornhill maybe somebody's about to opt out maybe the chiefs heard that somebody's deciding that they don't feel comfortable playing the NFL season who knows I don't know it's just it's the timing to me. It could be watts it could be dancing warrenton like those those types of guys would would make some sense as a guy that Tetra Thompson who come in and be asked to do a similar thing it was a labor surgery. That he had, and just for reference, the seahawks were trying to trade him before the draft like that was very public knowledge, and after the draft they went ahead and they released him The report was that he could probably be had for a late round pick and nobody took the bait to take on his two point one, three, million dollar cap hit. So that's a decent sized cap hit for a guy coming off of injury I would guess that the chiefs probably did not invest much of anything intead Rick Thompson but I do. Wonder if this is part of the money that they have cleared because L. D. T. has opted out of the season, they did get a little bit calf relief. There may be the chiefs felt like this is a position that we were looking to try and get some guys and give us some little won- Thornhill Insurance. In case he's hurt or you know having compete with Armani Watts? Whatever the case may be having that money. Now maybe they saw an opportunity to go out and get a safety that could maybe contribute four Steve spagnolo scheme. Well, again, like I said this is like one really the only guy. As a deep safety that they really have on this roster. I liked I liked the idea tedrick Thompson on this football team Mongolia And I think it's good value this late I don't want to look into it too much Mattie your instincts have been right on a lot of stuff like this so you might be honest something here. But overall I just think this is a really smart move and I wouldn't be surprised if you know the dust is cleared. You know the chiefs have a little bit more clarity a little bit more cap space. They've Gotten Chris, Jones done. They've gotten Patrick Mahomes dine maybe now they're just kind of playing in the waters. Now they're looking around at some these guys in some of these guys are looking for jobs and opportunities, and now they have a little bit because I bet you, he's not counting much against the salary cap. You know he's a vet minimum type player right? He's my guess is at the very least. This is really good depth really really who depth guys like the chiefs made to excellent moves this week between Colucci Assembly and Tedrick Thompson those are both excellent late July moves. Right and obviously there was one of them was a direct response to the news Laurent do very nature and Eve. I don't know if I looking into it like this one there I could be wrong but I just I think this is just a this makes sense. safeties the worst position on this football team from a debt perspective I think or one of the worst like. It because I that sounds crazy to say 'cause they have three good safeties but one goes down there screwed and Rodney Clemens was probably going to make this team like they typically keep that many and he had a real shot to make this team. So that's that's something that I mean Tetra Thompsons a better player than Rodney clements. and. He's a better player than Armani Watson. It's even close. Armani watches has been put on notice. That's what that tells me or Mattie could be right and one of these safe Jesus getting getting. Let go. Or getting like is is not is opting out the season like I think that's a very real possibility or one thornhill I mean there's a lot of scenarios in which they can happen insulating yourself at safeties not a thing anyway though it's GonNa be interesting to see. There's like the next couple of days I'm very interested to see if there's any you know news. Because of this, you know the if this was a response to something. Yeah. That's fascinating. Should we get back to what we were talking about or? I mean it's up to you guys. I figure if we keep talking long enough, we're going to get our third piece of breaking news on this podcast. We probably will probably going to find out what safeties opting don't do that. We're we all wide receivers making the football team? You were up to wide receiver Craig and I had tyreek Hill Sammy. Watkins Damarcus Robinson McColl Hardiman Environ pringle in that order as only five wide receivers making the final fifty three man depth chart. I. Think there's six but that was before the Federal Thompson News. I just think because of the nature of of what we're about to experience and I think you know that she's probably WanNa make sure that they keep some receivers you know on the roster because of you know the covert issues and all this stuff that they're going to be dealing with. I think I I don't agree with it. I think geared dealers the football team. I I do I, think the six wide receiver is Gary Dealer. And I'm not gonNA like it and Dave Tobe is and I just I I think GEHRIG. Six receiver. Tie Hill Sammy Watkins McColl Hartman's my three right now I believe he's going to overtake demarcus Robinson I. I. Don't feel great about that. One that one's a little tighter from you demarcus Robinson Byron Fingleton Derek jeter are let's let's do tight ends real quick I wanted to say. Real quick on the gear thing. No I think the special teams aspect makes tons of sense and I almost went with that too. However my up was I think there's a lot of defensive players on this roster that play special teams and I this data pricey. Allow the special teams contributions coming from at I was looking through the whole fifty three. I wanted to put on there for that reason, but the more I looked I think you can get equal special teams play from guys. They can probably provide more to the actual often slash defence part of the football that was the only reason I kept him off that specialties contributor because I think they have defensive backs that can do the same thing. What what what tight ends make the team Craig I think that. Three tight ends or making the team here and I think it's Travis Kelsey obviously I think it's elder. They love him and I, think Nick Kaiser just because they somebody that they can have as a more traditional blocker. Ricky Seals Jones is more of a move tied in the had that in Kelsey yelled or can get get up and go a little bit as well. He's kind of a hybrid Guy Nick Kaiser's more of your traditional pass blocker type guy. So I think that in that situation having some twelve and thirteen personnel looks with Kaiser on the field not a bad idea if you've got him as a blocking tight end, this is where my roster. Gets a little bit weird. This year guys because I have four tight ends making this roster in that is wild I have Travis Kelsey Diani elders tied into Nick Kaiser's tied in but John Love it I don't think that she's had to go and I don't know how you slide him onto the practice squad at this point in I think he's going to be useful specialty. He's obviously more of an age back if you WANNA put two fullbacks and carry him as an extra running back and said a tight end where he's actually going to play that's. Fine. However you want to do it but this is part of the reason I wanted to keep only five wide receivers. I think the chiefs are going to find a way to keep both Kaiser and love it for their football team. Kaiser helps a little bit more traditionally right now especially with the elder not being proven yet love it's a guy that you still have to work in a little bit more I just don't think the chiefs are ready to lose him and he goes to the practice squad. I. Don't think they're going to keep him going forward. Mattie, how many quarterbacks do you have making the team? We will get there when we crossed that bridge kit. I'm just I'm trying to count up all these players. On offense, you know that they need five offensive linemen, right? Just. You're like you're like vs with the salary cap, you'll get a roster spot you get a roster spot, you get Russ, I'm trying to just do like. This is this is wild me I have to. I had to account for everything going on and I made my decisions based on what I think will happen because of covid and I went with two tight ends and Travis Kelsey, Diani elder are the two that make it. I don't feel great about it. I honestly keep on Kaiser I know that there's fans of his So keep an eye on nick in that in that role potentially is tied into or tied in three and maybe the cheesecake three. ICM keeping two for now because I think there's just other decisions that they're going to have to make and this whole thing this roster construction has wild. You're willing. Both of you are willing to lose John Love it I mean because that's essentially what happened right Oh, I'm not willing to. I don't I don't Think I. Oh, wait Craig I'm not willing to I just think the chiefs will be willing to. I, look here's here's a look at it. Mattie I think there are some guys that I don't think I don't think there's going to be a lot of teams taking each other's players and I think there's going to be. This is a unique situation where a lot of these teams are going to have their. Players hold up. And probably not a lot of guys jumping other teams, I think, John Love is GonNa wind up on the practice squad. I think Darwin Thompsons GonNa wind up on the practice squad. I think Jordan do is GonNa wind up on the practice squad just see you know there's some other guys like that. Well, and this could be a cody tells and situation where I'm overvaluing a player that I've seen play for the chiefs a little bit and John Love here, and the guy that I liked some of his films baby, the NFL won't like him as much but you look around the NFL if teams are looking for fullbacks, they're looking for athletic mismatch h back types from what we've seen of John. Love he fits that mold if. A team is going out to search for a full back because they don't have one. He's the exact type like in from all accounts, he crushed interviews, he's very good football high football character. I would just be scared to try to slide him onto the practice squad. I, would probably keep him over Kaiser if I was getting rid of both of them I just think Kaiser helps a little bit more right now I just wanted to clear up if you guys as you know losing love it or if you thought the chiefs would be okay losing him. I think the chiefs are playing some calculated bets and expecting to be able to keep some guys normally what it. But also in a perfect world or in a different World Matt Moore's not on this roster John. Love. It probably is in my world Anthony Sherman's gone though. And my world, it's time to move on from Anthony Sherman. All right. That's going to do it for the Wednesday edition. We will be back tomorrow with the AP Laboratory, best of the Super Bowl and then from the podium on Friday. Thank you guys so much for listening. We'll catch.

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"Hello. It is Thursday July thirtieth I'm currently on the plane back from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Tux is ready to go for the weekend. Enjoy the hell out of the conversations we had today lot happening in the sports world can't wait to hear your thoughts on a tweet me up that McAfee show tweet all the boys. If you enjoy this show, please tell the friend if you it does act like it never fucking habit. Of You have the great. Thursday in the history of Thursday's. Let's get to the damn thing. Zeno, let me know. Do we have our mystery colour yellow? Do we ever yes? Sir. Mr Patrick Mass McAfee in a plush hotel somewhere probably upwards of eight hundred dollars a night. That what's up man? How welcome to the show? I don't know if there's any hotels that are in Pittsburgh Worth Eight, hundred bucks a night but things are going well over here. I wish my Internet was better I would have been able to do the show today but we tested it this morning and it is God. Awful. So at any given moment I could crap out but boy, it's fantastic to speak with you Mr Aj Hawkins following along yesterday while I traveling with the show in somebody described your face as home plate. Anything more accuracy. For hosting while I'm not. As. Pretty good man I don Hey I never all this like this phase in jaw talk about me. I'M NOT I. None of this ever happened to I. Met you Pat. So glad I'm okay with it I don't care I can handle it. Well, it's because you're John. Line. Is something that men desire eilly netting I said, it was like a shovel. You know because that is what it's like. It's like a shovel because everybody knows it whenever. I go through my diets phases I get real fat, and since Um Irish, my neck because the largest thing I just can't come one big blob like Shrek Sir but I'm always looking for that JAL line and then you you just have this. In the person on the Internet yesterday saying looks like, Home Plate I've never heard of the more accurately described cruciate you for hosting my show. You've done a great job people seem to love it and there's been a lot popping off in the sports world. Aj a lot off. So much and we got jet passing coming on here at ten forty today. Did you see what was going on last night with Joe? Kelly in the astros like what happens in abroad yet to wear your masks in get Nebraska umbrella the other team I watched the manager in the empire battle right I mean I see I could see why people on the show get it wrong with or not centered on the thing now because I'm that guy this. On. Match. Man. Yeah. Okay. I watched the different pirates manager in the empire get into it in. They clearly were yelling at each other put the masks on. Then he put the mass on the nose comes popping out and I don't know much about covid nineteen. I don't think anybody does but you can get him with the snot rocket to from what I've been told. So I believe. Any altercation because there's going to be flare ups, there's GonNa. Be You now in sports there's going to be moments where people want to get a little bit angry with each other especially when throw throwing ninety six mile an hour fastballs behind people's heads now warranted by the way warranted I enjoyed that moment he told him to shut up afterwards his face with the OH. I liked it but I think we expect a lot more out of that for the Houston Astros and I. Think everybody potentially thought that covid nineteen was GonNa make these pitchers forget about what happened down in Houston turns out. That's not accurate in old Mr Kelly Derozan. Hey, you did I forgot actually added some speed Dornan's Corentin de me and Henry Roan Gardner tighten that son of a bitch up a little bit and I'm head Hutton all day of night you need to know that. He will it got me thinking about hockey there's some exhibition games that have been on our hockey players allowed to fight in the Nhl they they addressed that yet. Well they do a face off to start each period, and if the puck goes in there, literally bent over kissing each other I if you take your gloves off in your trading blows with the dude, like don't you think that's Maybe. That's just not the best look during covert. Everybody knows you stick Clot. Short everybody knows what you do whenever you get into it on on the I said my ducts bash brothers taught me that back in the day and if you WanNa go and deck hockey I will go I'll swing stick by I'm not dropping it I feel like I had bigger brain and everybody else but potential assault charges come alongside that hockey is one where they are going to bump into each other a lot with their faces expose So I think they kind of lead the way but if you're in that bubble where nobody has it I feel like you're gonNA save. So I've been saying this about the NBA and the lesson the MLS has done such an incredible job. The NBA is such incredible job, the NHL, all these bubble leagues have done such a a fine job of being able to quarantine in sequester their players away from this bitch covid nineteen. So I, think the players in the bubble are going to be a lot more comfortable with potentially mixing it up and throw it. But like the MLB especially day after the marlins sink. POPs off. I would assume they're looking around. They got no idea who's got covid nineteen who's he doesn't have it. And they're probably going to be a bit more precautious just like the NFL I disturbed me NFL is going to be a lot more precautious than these bubble leaks wherever comes altercations and arguments. Hey, are you excited before we went to break I teased or secondhand I guess Lebron made the announcement. He's not going zero dark twenty three, zero. Yes thirty whatever he does during the playoffs this year because he needs to stay in contact with his family because he'll be sequester way for possibly three and a half months are you very excited that Lebron is not doing this not doing his normal playoff routine and is going to affect his on the court play. Yeah to be honest I. I didn't like anytime. He did that zero dark twenty-three or whatever it was because I don't like when people change anything. You know I don't like when people change anything if this dot to the dance, you know while you're dancing, keep it there. That's why I always had the upper body of an adolescent everybody knows that whenever I was in college I didn't have a great upper body but I had legs a Greek God, and then when I got into the NFL the same damn. Thing and everybody was like you know you probably get in better shape you should stretch more and I'm like, no, I'm not gonNA change anything. So anytime, he would change his social media habits I always thought it was potential be for the worst but Lebron James obviously was able to battle through and I liked the thought that we're going to get a little bit of an inside glimpse a little bit of an inside peak on what the brand looks like whenever it comes down to pressure time I I've been following. By the way I'd never followed the broad james on his screamed what like two days ago? I guess. So this kind of a big deal, I'm happy he's not just gonNA disappear on me at this point, but I don't like people change anything at all. So I didn't Love Zero dark twenty three is a theory It obviously want some things for him, but I'm saying to follow along. These these hub-bub players the amount of. Behind the scenes access we're getting through social media is awesome they normally in back in not normally. But back in the day, you would have to bank on whatever media person that was allowed in there to tell us what's going on in these bubbles who's important news, not important news driving the fact that we get a chance to see literally everyday life for all these athletes is. For Instance Pittsburgh Penguins are playing tennis yesterday about a COUPLA hours before they're playing a terrible flyers I got a chance to teach two Swedes Play Tennis Burns Arana, didn't love that we lost flyers again it didn't matter but I liked the two boys were out there swinging the racquet around a little bit like these. Are I like to Lebron sticking with it and I liked organic chance see everything going on in there yeah. I don't know who it is. There's probably a couple players doing it in the NBA but. It's popped up on my apple TV YouTube feed life in the bubble. Do you know Have you seen any of those guys are showing when their golfing their fish in doing all kinds of stuff it's pretty sweet to see like these guys are trying to make the best of it. I mean they're in a good spot. They have a lot to do if you're in the NHL though do you feel? Left out that you're in Edmonton or Toronto. I mean from what I've been told by everybody that knows data and I, think we do have some Edmonton fans. So they've heard this before I've heard Edmonton's is a a stink fest a nightmare in Staten Island of Canada is what I've been. Now Toronto looks. Awesome. TORONTO. Looks. From the inside look that I've seen it was like a little baby Toronto in there with Toronto. Maple. leafs floor decorated it all they got golf simulators in there they got everything going on there, and so I I'm not sure I've seen anything out of Edmonton but who cares because the champion of covid cups coming out of the East? Anyway. So the Edmonson thing is all just a to do for nothing because there's up there skating on ice sleeping embeds that are in hotels locked down in a bubble in a city by calls adopt for nothing because at the end of the day Pittsburgh Penguins are going to slice dice triple Dijk knuckle block their way to a never covid, Cup Championship Wilson. Yeah I. Agree I. Think. But I just I'm reading this on the outline Zito sent me says report that marlins outbreak happened because they left their hotel in Atlanta to have a good time air quotes what what happened and how much personal responsibility these guys have because that's going to be the NFL like it's all on the players. How do you once you're in the Pacific? Yeah, we're pretty good. We've got a good protocols once you leave and you go home it's on you to try to make sure you don't infect the rest of your team. A Atlanta do. You know I mean magic city liked. What's that? I said that they go to magic city. I would assume I mean I'm Cheetahs Downer as well. I. Believe there is a Bevy of options for you down in Atlanta and I put out tweet last night begging for all these said adult ballets or other clubs that are available to go ahead into just shut the doors to these athletes for the love of sports shut doors down there in Atlanta. But you've got a Lotta old whites to going on twitter talking about how these spoiled little brats. They're on the they're getting a chance to play. Out their dreams and all they have to do is just for a couple months lay low. It's like think if you're twenty three years old twenty, four years old and everybody has said this every humanist said they feel invincible and you listen to what the original stats were about covid nineteen. It's like young people are okay. So there there's this initial thought I would assume from a lot of younger players and I think it's good for the NFL what happened with the Marlins to be honest now granted. Every player opting out of the Patriots Organization is wild. That's going on up there I, do not know now their star players opting out what the hell is going on. What did they know that we don't know in by the way getting offered six figures just chill I guess is something that some players are gonNA. Take ten times ten but the I think there is a heightened awareness on the players that the onus will be on them to kind of lay low. This is on you we all very much understand that if you're the healthiest team and you don't have tobin, you're going to be the team that wins in the end because that's a real thing in the NFL. If you're healthy at the end of the season, you're GONNA win. Now we're in a time where is long as you stay away from that Ronan ditch. And you don't lose half your roster for two weeks. You're probably GONNA win in the end. So I would assume there's a lot of conversation about from the veterans on the team talking to the younger guys on a team. Because by the way I was one those younger guys that probably would have had it been talked to hey fat legion not to be an idiot. Okay like I understand, you're potentially seeing an opportunity to go boom. Have a good time here. Maybe go shotgun a beer here or maybe one thing here but then put a mask on afterwards. Need you not do that Megyn, lock it down. So I think the veterans on a team have to have a big deal and I think the Marlin situation has is A. Perfect example for the NFL teams to be like look what's going on Miami? Marlins. Yeah. They stink they're not GonNa win it anyways but they almost shut down the entire MLB. We can't have that happen for the NFL and most importantly, we can't have that for this team because we need everybody to be able to field a team at the end of this entire thing. You mentioned the Patriots. And you're saying like what? I saw your tweet I think what does Bella Check No like this He. What how is he become that much of like a mythical figure to where he has six guys opting out and everyone's like Oh why don't we have more guys opting out like other if you're a fan of another team? What do they do? We need some of our guys to opt out so we can open up some cap space and figure something out and try to follow Bella check like think. What do you think's going on there? Why? Why so many players I. Guess Right now it's early on opt out. Of New England. He knows everything. I have no idea. Last night. I'll tell you gay here in Pittsburgh brought some vitamins had a four hour private plane delay. Have you ever heard of that I know because you pay an asinine amount of money to not have that happen. So I mean yesterday was a long day. Got My body measured. Maybe making a change to by the way to my Tux thanks for asking AJ I. Care the I've been doing a lot of thinking about this though I've been doing a lot of thinking about this. There has to be something kokin. It's just if there was anybody else. You'd be like, okay those players tape playing for that person those players plants that organization those players now precautious because of their worries of covid nineteen or whatever. It would just make too much sense. But then whenever you hear the greatest dynasty in the history of professional sports in their veteran players popping out at a certain amount of time in you know they have a salary cap potential issue and you know Ernie Adams has that big ass brain in top of the stadium owners thinking in I kinda watching down on. Everything and Bill Belichick, is a guy who if there's something in the rule book can get dance around. He will. He was the first guy to start really abusing formations to get players that aren't in eligible positions eligible I mean there's been a lot of rules that have been changed strictly because bill, Belichick has exploited the rule book and I'm not saying Bill Belichick football coach tries to do that. Every coach tries to do that but it feels as if the Patriots are always Y- organization that finds a way to. Get through a situation and exploited to benefit themselves the most and it's not every other team wishes they could do it but bill belichick Ernie that entire squatter always able to do it. So whenever you see Dante our Patrick Chung, all these other players you're like it's son of a bitch knows something somehow his only have to pay them half their salary this year, half the salary neck like somehow in the rule books like Asterix numbers or letters e in some guideline that nobody has read it's like if a player. OPS out at the beginning, but then ops back in six days. Later, your salary cap triples like that is what I think could potentially be going on in I. Still. I still won't believe that he didn't cook this all up somehow until there's a statement may be two years from now that he didn't this all up. No matter what happens I think it's all BS. He's like a magician and mistype world. We all know that in Adam Schefter with that tweet, he said I was talking to an NFL official they said. Talking to an NFL official said listen. Bill. No something. That's how the whole world feels and it's gotTa feel damn good that you're that good that everybody thinks you're just cooking the game at all times no matter what happens with your team back can I ask you a question please I think jet passed and supposed to be show four minutes ago. But yeah. Yeah. That was I was going to because we have to drop. Aj to get jet and AJ back on together. Oh smarter. A Dick's see by the way. Good magic by you. Say. We're producing shows over here. What do you think about Joey Bosa highest played high paid defensive player of all time though. Skinny Becker that's. That's that's a new guy. Hey. Surrey, how's it going? Bobby are I saw that on the youtube feed yesterday because I didn't know how you guys were setting up was falling along. A lot of people are saying, WHO's skinny? Replacing Z., what's going on like? No, this is actually all-terrain seats time to shine with nobody Joey Bosa is such a classic situation of not only east coast bias. But maybe if you go to the chargers, you kind of just get forgot about teen and Allen has been talking about this on the twitter because of lack of respect he's been shown wider CBA world, but if you think. About Joey Bosa in all good. He's been in all the stats are coming out for how good he's been. The last couple of years PF has gotten on board. Everybody's like this guy's been the guy. This guy's been get in my eyes the boasts are for the niners is the of it's a game changer I completely forgot that the godfather or the the mafia enforcers grandson that I came into. The NFL from chargers was the guy. So him getting this massive contract hundred, twenty, five, million biggest defensive contract in the history of the game following up after what? myles Garrett just got a couple of weeks ago I'm happy for I'm pump form in for me. I think it's a reminder like eight. This boasts a family place. No Games on the defensive line in Joey needs a lot more respect. But until they win some games, I don't know if anybody's going to do that. But good for Joey, locking it down. He's got a great shoe game always as Jordan cleats on and now he's secured the bag I wonder if you'll be able to buy a baseball team now like some other guy that just got broken in half that's absolute. WHO's GonNa, make more money, the bosses or the watts. Feels like the bozos feels like the boast is a probably GonNa make more money just because Jay Jay's a little bit older. So he doesn't have a chance to maybe cash into three more times like Joey will. He'll be able to get at least two more contracts. Now, granite that ultimate tags show we don't know the. Ultimate, jags. That watch family could be raking in Patrick mahomes money with that ultimate tag show were not one hundred percent. Sure. But if you go on the field, the boasts there's are both so young. I mean they're going to be able to kind of re up two to three more times. Jj has already had his big contract. I'm sure he'll get another big one somewhere but open for short amount of years and then he'll be out there. But if you add in Derek what special teams thought full-back, maniac may be that third contract might be able to put him in there but the bosses if you can get to the past, the passers going to get paid k. the quarterbacks going to. Get paid he touches the ball every single play. If you can affect a quarterback, you're going to get paid defensive ends corners. You're going to get gas money as well. So I think they are set up for the long haul here for the absolute cash-back brinks truck, and here's the first play a payment for the godfather enforcers grandson, Joey Bosa with the with the Patriots stuff and all those players ought to now do you guys think there's any chance that because they have been doing virtual meetings from the Gecko that they've kind of known who was sitting out for a couple of weeks now and that's why right off the bat everybody came out and was talked about. What happened to jet? Squeeze them in there but for some reason I'm using this camera follows He used an answer, his email address was wrong or something I don't know. You just get yourself to the wrong camera. I mean that's wall in my defence. It does say Zito on it and I saw my name not pressed. Is Actually me right here? recipes to jet I assume he's been pretty aggressive here aj I would assume that these players did not make publicly that they were going to opt out before it officially came out. I. Don't think in the zoom calls with the Patriots they're talking about doing it I assume some of them might have told bill that they're thinking about it but I don't take the rest of the team new that it was happening you. Know I don't think they maybe a few players here and there you know in their texts and back and forth you might say, Hey, man, I don't know if I'm GonNa make this year I got a I got a newborn or I got other issues. But yeah, of course they had to consult with Bel check in with. Other front office people but now I. Don't I think the majority of the team probably found out just like we did when they put it on twitter we saw it on TV, you know how we talked about this with the NBA players were to opt out Adam silver came out and was like, Hey, listen if players opt out there will be no punishment they'll be nothing like that going forward. Could you imagine these football guys that are making decisions whether they're coaches or in GM's have to act a bit different but coaches who were just all they love his ball, this entire Tova nineteen quarantine all they wanted to do was watch film and run people through drills induce of in. Now they're learning that some of their players are like opting out because of safety reasons. precaut- reasons whatever reason that. is going to be something where I understand the message is going to be hey, by the way congrats to the NFL PA for negotiating his six-figure payout. If you choose to opt out the NFL PA doesn't get a lot of credit for things because the NFL PA normally drops the ball in situations players getting a hundred and fifty thousand dollars somehow in the NFL green to that if you don't play. Is Why and I heard even more my. Pat Hey. Alone though alone they take it out of your next year contract. Okay. So it's not that big is Ernie interest on. Them. To. Do a million dollars next year eight, fifty. If you took the one fifty and opted out this year and you weren't high risk. I'll tell you what zero percent interest on that loan. They're not a bad thing. If you can get it, you know maybe getting a small family house if you can't at this point because that's really what it's about but you know sometimes you GonNa Rob Future you for present you. But so maybe it wasn't that good deal I. Guess Maybe I should take back that the damn fell PA. We do though, pat if you're a if you're a bubble geyer, you're somebody who probably wasn't going to make the team. Guess what you opt out now you take one fifty you don't have that contract to take it from the next year. Yeah especially, if you think there's a chance but if you're younger and you don't have credited season or something, you don't get it. So I mean there are stipulations on whether or not you can get in there or get out of there that the coaches though think they could get their hearts are a little bit for players that have opted out just football geyser like Monroe in this together, we're all going through stuff the fact that you're not here really disappointing, but we'll get back to it next year like, yeah. Okay that there's going to be. I understand that the right thing is be like, well, you shouldn't judge anybody for making decisions for their family for their health and I agree. But I'm just telling you from the humans that I have encountered. That are potential football coaches. I don't know if that's how they are. Passing guys, guys. Jet. What's up, boys. A jet thanks for coming on joining AJ awfully late but that's probably on zero. Not on you. We appreciate you are the stories that the MARLINS got infected by this down in Atlanta when they want the magic city and saw working in work and is that true? Or do we know anything on how this is all about for the MARLINS organization because they're the only ones that have a failed test in the MLB the only want. As, much as I would love for them to be true because it would be hilarious I honestly don't know I've heard the same things that you guys have read on the Internet, and there's all kinds of speculation. But I think you know in instances like this it's almost like the public wants to blame players and throw them under the bus and I just don't think that's fair. I don't think it's right and if it turns out to be true, then they brought it on themselves but I have absolutely nothing to to confirm the idea that they were out running in eating lemon pepper wings and That's why this happened. Jet What about the what happened with Joe Kelly last night in amazing. The whole situation thrown behind him and then him career going back and forth are is major league. Baseball GonNa have to do something drastic to to stop teams from thrown at the Astros. Or fighting now. I don't I don't think so I I feel like you know coming into the year you know there were bets being taken or the Astros are GonNa be hit more than any team in major league history. I. I'm not GonNa say this was they completely isolated incident but I think if anybody was going to throw at the Houston Astros it was going to be the dodgers. I it's it's funny of course that Joe Kelley wasn't even on the dodgers team in two thousand, seventeen that law he was however on the Red Sox team that lost to them. In the Division series and Joe Kelley has a long history of getting into fights. Let's say, I, mean, you remember in two thousand, eighteen against Tyler Austin. Who is a big dude like six two to forty looks more like a linebacker than he did baseball player Austin charges amount on Joe. Kelley. Joe Kelley just gave him the whole like come on. Let's have it at it and ended up like wrestling tyler awesome out of the ground and throwing a couple of punches I'll be honest I thought what he did. Yesterday was wrong I don't like throwing guys. And Joe Kelley didn't say that he was doing it intentionally of course. Doesn't it a slider? Head. What's that? Wasn't it? A slider breaking ball almost hit him in the head? No I. That's the the the curve balls the one that almost take Carlos Correa and the had. But the ones Alex Bregman was ninety six like sort of behind his neck. That's just it's dangerous when you thrown into the guy's head and. Is As. You know as as bad as what the Astros did was I personally do not believe that having a hard five ounce projectile thrown at your dome is is the right recourse and and something like I just don't buy baseball vengeance are they the and with all I think is kind of stupid and we should have happened. But Hey, you know watching Joe Kelley like traipse off the field and and give the sad face to to Carlos Correa and watch again yawn after throwing behind Alex Bregman. Joe Kelley is Joe Kelly's interesting calf. Jet I believe that's why you cover baseball and I play baseball you know that. For, vengeance for sure I you know I have. That makes two of us who don't play baseball. So. Hang up on them. Check the stats, Bob Right, fielder, second-place Frontier League team, Washington wild things I don't have to rub that in your face you know you're a baseball expert but. The vengeance thing I was falling along with you and I saw you have to you I tweeted about it. Then I was soon, everybody came after you in the baseball world cow, that's not good for the game. So then you had to clarify that you have always had to standpoint that you don't like people throwing people say it's probably smart but let's talk about something that happens in baseball. It's GonNa. Happen in Aj and I, talked about it a little bit ago. Are there rules in place for disagreements like we saw the pirates manager in the umpire into it and they both fixed their mass, the actually mass out of his back pocket if players were to fight, are they do they have to put their mass on before they? Each other has been talked about or is it like hey, let's try. To avoid disqualifications all that we can. No, it's in the protocol pat saying essentially, there will be severe repercussions for teams that fight with which leads me to believe that there's still a chance that there's GonNa be some discipline after last night's game I if only because on the same day that the marlins outbreak jumped to seventeen people in the organization the answers and the dodgers were not promoting social. Distancing, particularly, well, I getting off the bench and congregating like they did on the field there I. It's it's the kind of example, baseball doesn't want to see set but the fact that there wasn't a, you know a a knock down drag out You Know Pat McAfee Adam cold donnybrook style fight is is leads me to believe there's probably not going to be disciplined in this case. Hey. What? Face Ball. My head I'm throwing that at your face. I. Did. I I listened Pat You are you're an Alpha and I understand that that's going to come out of you I. I tend to have some more restraints and perhaps that's why my football career ended before it even started I listen I I, respect the hustle man you gotTa do what you gotTa do. Top Tangle. Sorry about that. What's Adrian? Sorry Last thing before we go and you you call Pat, an Alpha is GonNa let him just cruise through this day? Feel so good about himself. So I appreciate you really boost in boosting the young guys spirit before is big wedding. Comes this Saturday as well but what about Pat Mahomes? He's an owner of royals. Do We know how much? What kind of percentage do know any kind of cash he threw down? You have any idea. I doubt it's a whole lot. I mean I think just having Patrick mahomes associated with the chiefs like with the royals rather If I'M IF I'm John Sherman if I'm the owner of the royals, I give Patrick Mahomes chunk of the the team for a dollar just knowing that he's going to be in Kansas City for the next decade plus. To be. We're up against a hard out buddy. I'm so sorry thank you for your time. Hard. Where we ask came back up at the top of the hour reduce get jet my bad stay on the line I got. Exponential. Hand signals thrown my way from multiple different people in the studio impact. But Hey, we're back. Here we go the show. Thanks for coming back I believe jet has a hard out eleven as well. Cathy. I. Wait. Here's here's here's the thing I. Love this show screw it. Let's do one more question. Here's my question. Rob Manfred did not look like a stooge in his first comments about the entire Marlin situation he kit hammered home. How players safety is the biggest important thing how do you think the MLB the Emma P. P. A. in the entire league have to come together after this Marlin situation and I assume the NFL's to the same thing. But kind of pointed this situation and say, Hey, this can't happen anymore who's going to be doing that how is this GonNa fall out in has rob Manfred taking a turn may be looking like a leader in this entire process. I'm not GonNa go that far yet. But because I think it's incumbent ultimately on the players on the staff on the people who were out there on a daily basis and they're going to be protocols put into place. You know I don't think players are going to be allowed to leave hotels on the road anymore I think it's just GonNa be like if you're caught out there will be disciplined from the team because I think teams understand the ones that stay healthy are going to be the ones that went and that's clear with the marlins right now who probably weren't GonNa win a whole lot this year anyway but they've lost. Team guys out of the thirty three who were traveling with the team that's an enormous amount, and they're gonNA have to fill them in with minor league is and Minor League free agents. guys who simply are not to the caliber that the guys who are on the big league roster are. So it's You know I think it's it's ultimately going to fall on the people who are there every day but the protocols that are in place need to be respected needs to be observed, and frankly I think needs to be a little more stringent than they are right now because baseball can't afford another outbreak like this and if it happens to a team like the new. York Yankees of the Los Angeles dodgers I think we're having a whole different conversation right now. Yes. That is correct. Jet I know you're a busy man we see you everyone on the TV. Thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it. We'll talk to you again soon. Take, care. So. Sorry to interrupt. But. I need to talk to you about something. That's really awesome. Changes, constant. But these days it feels like there's something new to grapple with every day we may all be adjusting to this new normal, but it's still stressful. It's important to talk about it and seek support. 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So you just absolutely slaughtered it in. That's why you're an amateur. This thing may begin to become a professional that is something I would never ever do I have looming owed on backs. Let me cut you off real quick. So you WanNa meet we had jet called in like ten forty nine wanted me to drop him at ten fifty three. Now. So you know classic professional host move would be as the radio show is ending its first hour. You say, Okay jet passing conversation will continue youtubecom former slash the Pat Mac show for our radio listeners which we appreciate in abundance. You can either go over there to watch arrested or we'll see you at the top of the next hour where jet passed in will probably be mid sentence. Let's get to know I. appreciate it. Thank you. I learned something here today that was never a thing I. Know I get sometimes I get distracted by using their flexing into your your phone because you see yourself on the screen it's the most like hopefully there's nobody that gets carsick or sea sick watching this because the amount how you have Bob your phone around that hotel room. It's unbelievable. Say. Kay You I didn't say other people are saying but I'm going to say we have to set up something a little bit different I. Guess This is not easy. After I. Should lay down just got some water. I don't know if that was what that was. I was choked to death but you have to maintain a certain part of the thing here. It's not easy being a guest on this. Is Dead Center on your phone? You're good I. believe that's the way to. Think about it. You need to prop your phone onto something just lean it against something on a desk. Hotel, by the way I just WanNa. Let everybody know unlike the Marlins okay. I've been locked down in a hotel whenever I'm not where I have to be. So I'm trying to do my part on like the Marlins have been, but that's a mobile. Don't what he's talking about. That's to traveling go. Is What he's referring to if he's saying that players are going to have to be lockdown. In their. In their hotels, which by the way I thought was going to be the rules originally that's you some mobile dome so easy it's all going to have to do that and what's going to happen when players or home the people that are living at with at home. Are they also lockdown because can't somebody that you live with go to the grocery store it potentially suck face with the Deli person who has covid nineteen Tom home. Maybe touch you, and then all of a sudden you have covered nineteen and then it doesn't matter I don't. I'm pumped to see how this continues to go but it is promising that only one team in the MLB. Only one team has a failed test. Even for all, we know about cope nineteen. You would think that the phillies would be a problem because they're even sharing the same diamond, the same baseball as the marlins the none. Of them got it. So I guess there are some past to success at the NFL's looking at, but that's always been my big questions like who do so the people that live with the players they also have to commit to this thing to this is a family affair full friend affair fool roommate affair. This is an entire commitment and to be honest if I was in the League, I would want media people to try to explain. That this is not an easy task to be a human who's just lockdown while your sport. But now that I'm outside and I just need football to happen like these players need to tighten. Okay. Players need to these players need to understand it. Your happiness does not matter can get your ass out there on that diamond out there on that field hate each other and then go right back home and put a gas mask on Laremy. You're right and and the thing that you're going to have to do I understand there's probably not going to be fans that most of these games maybe there'll be some what do you do when your family wants to come during the season like your parents are aunt and uncle cousins? Are they not gonNA become an NC in their their son or daughter cousins whoever like you think? People are gonNA tell their family. Hey, stay away. Don't worry about coming here for the weekend. Yeah Tell Your family you hate 'em k. tell. You GotTa do what you gotTa do. I don't know and even works from an actual human standpoint and that is always forgotten when it comes to professional athletics is you never forget about the human that's inner because the amount of money that somebody's being paid because of the dream situation that they're in. But when it comes down to these types of guidelines and protocols, you have to think about the human that has to execute it in for the MLB for these marlins players, what they probably been lockdown. Maybe Lebanon's lockdown life for a couple of weeks. Now, maybe a month in one night, they slip one night there like Twingo Bingo Bingo. And then all of a sudden boom nightmare catastrophe. If he happens out of nowhere, that is just it's GonNa be a case study. It's going to be a talking point for everybody else and I. think that's why everybody very very intrigued to see if any of this works out but I a lot of hope that the NFL is going to be able. To get this done because of the pictures that have been coming out from training camp with the Glass Windows Inbetween Lockers Bill rivers rocking the colts helmet. Look good was wearing a hickory shirt good pandering by old Phil but I saw the inside of a lot of buildings appeals like they're doing everything they possibly can and get this done but it's GonNa. Be. Tough. With humans anytime you have human air possibility guess what happens human air I mean that's just what happens. We'll just the numbers think how many players on each team, how many support staff are on each team that can just mess it up for everybody on that team all it takes is one or two guys to go out there and I. Know the NFL has things in place on what you can get punished for what they can find you. If you're at a place that is ten or more people if it's a bar setting or whatever. There's all these different things put in place. But yeah, I guess you're I think you're right though when you say whatever happened to the marlins right now. That's the best not not the best possible but it's a great like wakeup a reminder for all these other leagues and all these other athletes I came man like you guys WanNa play right? You play you get paid. A lot of guys are are motivated by money you WanNa, get paid you better stay healthy and not go take unnecessary outside of this saw this facility. So I think maybe some players are scared straight a little bit from all the what happened the marlins and see and like okay it can happen we can still continue now the marlins aren't getting back on the field for what another five days or something maybe but why He's not playing. He I. Don't know they that that didn't make any sense but the the Yankees are playing Baltimore tonight now instead for two games. So the let's four games they'll have to make up against the Phillies, at some point that I wasn't really sure on the logistics of that either. Tight. Great Chair I know. I know. Are you going to space? Have you seen that chair that he's sitting in writer? No, I want to show me. Ask. What does that a game chair? You Bet fits the back in a neck grade next still a little sore. So it's nice to have some lumbar support here. Next door because Adam Cole shoved me. Oh did he punk you to now? Now's perfect time. Now's perfect time for you to apologize for saying what you said to me on my show on my platform on my network. You're right Pat I do I need to take this time I need to apologize you I am sorry I'm sorry Adam Cole came into your studio and you being the Alpha decided to take a step back and be the Beta that day and say you know what? I'm such an Alpha. I will let you out with me. Is built that we'll see this clip continuing. Knows that he can hang up all he wants it doesn't matter. So pat was the bigger man that day as the Alpha leading saying, you know what? I don't need I don't need the limelight I don't need to look goodness misencounter I'm going to step back I'll be the Beta here. Adam Cole is obviously out Alpha in me and I'll just let him go about his weight. I'M NOT GONNA do anything about it. So Pat I, apologize I give you a lot of credit your bigger man than I am Aj you. Still. Me Son of a bitch. If that was an apology, the Hell's wrong with I said I was sorry Multiple Times directly to Pat. No, it was a backhanded. Sorry. You know what you were doing you son of a bitch. Connor so Yeah it's going on what's going on. Your Joey Bosa question earlier just got me. That Joey Bosa question was a terrible brain for my but real quick with Joe Kelly thing apparently the last thing he said that what caused Korea to walk over was Nice Swing Bitch was there ever one thing that you heard on the field that caused somebody like to flip that switch and be like Oh that that's it I'm going after that guy. Man There is I'm trying to think of specifics. There's always. There's not like unwritten rules, but there wasn't a whole lot ever talked about like people's family life like no one really mentioned wives or kids or anything on the field, but guys would. I can't think of one thing that would make a guy freak out. Honestly I'm trying to think right now the top of my head but I, never I never really saw anything like someone say Nice Swing Bitch. That's not good. That's not gonna make anyone go crazy. I might laugh at the guy he said it to mean but I don't know like guys have seen anything other sports where you see someone just all of a sudden lose their mind and freak out will you play with vaunt as perfect? What did people say to him that the made him? So upset nothing the referees would make him upset that's Baez new. Like s the thing once you've got that. Once he got labeled whatever he was what kind of player he was if someone caught mccurdy player and he's GonNa cheap shot people the refs were looking for a man and wrestled tell him before the game during the game and then other teams would mess with them. It always try to goad him into doing something in trying to instigate things and he knew going in coaches tell them you understand that and sometimes man who was just tough teams. Mess and then refs will jump in on it and I think the reps are what actually turned make a lot of guys go crazy. If something is called something called or they feel like they're being treated unfairly compared to other guys. So he's just a moron well, I'm not saying nick well, there was the AJ Green thing with Jalen Ramsey I don't remember that I don't know what happened there but man AJ is such a quiet professional guy. That doesn't say a whole lot just goes out and dominated every single day in practice in every single game when he lost his mind on Ramsey like what happened here I don't know what was said. Did you guys? No? No no I don't think it ever came out. Yeah. No clue. I I the only thing I heard about like cornerbacks talking trash with Richard Sherman saying like very, very complicated words because he went to Stanford obviously big old. The only thing I heard from my corners in the courtroom Finnegan, Andre? Johnson never knew what was said in that exchange either. I don't know if it was even one thing it's just whoever WHO MAKES THE FIRST MOVE to turn this into a physical altercation after the snap like that's the thing like if someone starts to make a move the other all art well, I'm not going to sit here and get punked on the field. I gotTA figure this out. That's usually what happens and what gets it going, and then all the other people joining because you want to help your team mates, you don't want to see this happen, but it's I don't know I can't think of one thing. It's nothing big said it's usually something that happened like you. You pushed him late right after the whistle and you or you continue to do something. Here's someone just a past and continues to push somebody later, block them an extra second half after the whistle for the first three quarters of the game guess what in the fourth quarter someone might get fed up and start to fight with that person that's what I see happening. But Hey, I know we're going to go to break here now just because Powell that's back never mind we're not going to a break. I'm not doing any breaks for your radio show. Radio show. You know what? If you're a radio listener? We may go to a break time or not. But if not good youtube dot com slash something for. I must have lost service there I'm sorry I must lost some service or did I miss the best part of my apology y you hung up. You called me a Beta in them my my service dropped out for some reason, and by the way you know what's after Beta whenever people been calling me Alpha is cock and I wasn't even going to let you slipped on that road house. Service dropped that good hosting there though youtubecom foresee Pat McHugh show during the commercial break I'm sure this conversation will continue. Yet, we'll see I was saying you, Alford the. By taking a step back in that altercation with Adam Cole so I was giving you compliment. I'll say I didn't get to hear because my service dropped out and we talked to early that the reason why I'm not hosting today's because I don't have good enough. Wifi could drop out so I didn't even get a chance to hear you talk about how I'm such a Alpha and that's kind of a shame. I appreciate your apology. It was insincere. But like what very back handed it was fake. Yeah. It was it was not super condescending it was fake. Prick. Seriously, Hey can I ask you a question? Their win. So enjoy both gets paid literally like right before training camp starts and he rolls in the locker and what's the atmosphere in the locker room when he walks in rummy holds up. A dollar understood that. Let me hold a dollar. Okay. What? I I think I was kind of old school. Them hold a dollar because I moved quickly to let me hold ten. K. You know. I moved that to from a dollar to ten K. but I think teammates are pumps. Everybody wants to see everybody get paid like that is something that's very interesting although contract negotiations always get for people and it can get a little bit personal and I guess some players if doesn't get like that. But inside that locker room when somebody gets paid, everybody is happy for them because that's ultimately the goal of playing professional sports. So I would assume there's a massive celebration in that locker room as soon as bozo walks in there I assume there is more than a couple care hide it get. It's come in from whatever pair of shoes he wears in their first day because he's got great shoe game but there's going to be over well overall excitement from people for their teammate getting paid and you don't even. As somebody that has to cover this now from a objective standpoint, know the big brain in the locker room you don't even get into the old well since he got paid now there's no salary cap la for me to get paid like that doesn't even cross people's minds even though people think players are very selfish and everything like that. The initial thought is good for you man I'm GonNa try to get like you you are you are you own earned you deserve it, and now let's go ahead and get a championship. So people know that our team exists. And we we haven't had break yet by the way. So if you want to break feel free. Throw throw yet it. Hey We're GONNA go to break here. Right now we'll be back in the other side eleven thirty eastern we will have Jay Glazer but pat nice conversation will continue. Where do they go to not to continue on this conversation? youtubecom forward slash the. Alpha Alpha Alpha. Dot Com. Thanks guys. We'll be right back in the other son Pat and I will continue on Youtube. That what's up? On break yet aj let let the radio clear now. And clear. Just spoke through the radio break, there's like local station identification that goes path. What's up? and. You'll be alright. You'll be okay pat. Don't worry. That's the first time ever. I've done this show and some of an break. WHO said that Zito by the way I see doing full production producer he was counting down the seconds until the hard out that you blew through at the beginning of the hour in a now he's like, Hey, we haven't gone to a break and we have to do that Zito and you in your own kid. Trying to Washington DC. Doing a great job man I feel bad. Zina's gotta run around like crazy when. It remote like this Oh Zito great work I don't know. I. Tried to throw it to break earlier as I was going to break. You pop back up on screen because you said your connection came back. I couldn't hear you because my connection was bad. So that's on me. I interrupted you but you know what? Adversity J. Ever heard of it. Life is not about what happens. It's how you react you what happens and that is on a poster in this hotel saying on in right outside by the way. Gentlemen streaking of. indie. tonight I'm flying back tonight. So I'm actually just collecting the talks today I to go into this morning and get one final little touch up because you know we did some change but I'm flying back tonight with talks in hand ready to say I do I, do I do I do. Everything going on right with the whole wedding I know you had a change of venue and date a couple months back. Sam. My. Lady has been a hero time. She's had to now granted. We obviously 'cause we're getting married. So a lot of we talk, but she has handled a lot of the you know planning for this said weddings that were supposed to take place. So from what I've been told. All systems go we are clear for takeoff. We are ready to have a great night I've been getting. A. Lot. Of texts from people. About when I need to think about during the day because I guess a lot of people have told me that the wedding will fly by. So make sure you enjoy the moment enjoy your bride 'cause everybody gets tries to talk to their friends that are in town. We don't have as big of a gathering because of this cove nineteen bitch but I'm pumped for Sam to get a chance to enjoy all of hard work and putting this wedding together and I'm excited to you know have a bride after this weekend in this toxic that putting together I I think I'm a look eight. AM. Look like one of the mouth is you were talking about you call me earlier crash does she know what your? Tux looks like there's going to be a surprise to her. Now. So I guess she supposed to know what it looks like but since I was a to see any of the fucking dresses, she's wearing I've decided no, you don't get to see what I'm wearing either that's just that's just the game we're gonNA play and I know Alpha move. You're just you're asserting your dominance once again. While and also just pettiness. Could have been very easy easily showing her it does it doesn't matter but since I don't get the chance to see the dress I, guess that's a big moment like we get. We have a a I look that's going to happen on Saturday where I get to see her for the first time in dress before we get married. People told me that that becomes a bit emotional. Now, let's remember I did not watch any Disney movies as hi or so a lot of people think that I potentially missed out on a lot of emotional development, but we will learn a lot this weekend whenever I seen my incredibly beautiful lady dressed up to become a McAfee pumped up about it a we got Jay Glazer at eleven thirty. You'RE GONNA hang on here and we can talk to him together. I think I think my thing is I think I gotta go. What are you going to talk about? What should I talk to them about you tell me? About that absolute buzzkill fucking news drop that he really. Got To do it. I know you requested him to be your guests on the show So I'm sure you have a question but you. Are. We live no where it'll be. Five fucking. Because, I remember that guy's bucket. Must be big news remember that that was a big right welcome back this. Show I'm Jay we're back from break for the radio listener's we've been keeping this going on. Youtube I'm joined. Currently still by the PAT McAfee, the ultimate Alpha will be getting married this coming Saturday he's looking forward to it hell Jay Glazer joins US alien that might hang on but he claims he has to leave the room. I do not believe him I think he can make it for eight to twelve more minutes. But now welcome back to the you know welcome yourself back to the radio listener's. Well Hey guys I missed yesterday want to be honest I. I. Tried to watch his show couldn't do excels in sky I tried to keep up with it afterwards but I was too busy doing a bunch of stuff to lock in this topic. So I missed the listeners I'd miss the viewers I missed the conversation with the boys hey, with the boy. A. What was the guy's name was the players name that Jay Brian our. It was Brian Allan. He Plays Center for the rams super the way if Brian Allan opted out. No. True No von Miller, was like the next day if you remember correctly. Ian Rapoport just took a dump on Jay Glazer the next. Miller have until the nineteen but some. You'RE GONNA, get gotten his game. You just gotTa Get Yours morning you've got though and I think that's the message you got to say Jake Glaser. Hell? Yeah. Would didn't have you had J. on said he had that news dump. Now Alex Oh. I thought you did maybe you tweeted about it. You said Jay redeemed himself with some other drop he had. Oh Yeah. What is that? He about he did something he broke some news and I said Jake lasers back baby and he re tweeted it and then I got a bunch of tweets. So it was like, no, he is not. So I still not one. Hundred percent sure of Jake lasers back in the game. But I, do know that Jay Glazer decades in decades of hard work in Intel should not have been ruined by one terrible news break that he teased for forty eight hours. But it sure feels like that's how the Internet reacted and I think you as an upstanding journalists have to talk to him about that. Or ask why I think he was he was trying to hype up a new show that Fox was doing to didn't announce the news on the show. Yeah, he had Internet show they were doing and You know that's always good. It was it was all bad. It was all bad jake lasers guy and I'm sure he has a lot information particularly about how the NFL has been talking to the players here the first day training camp they just got tested. They're still having virtual meeting. So then I guess tomorrow the detested again anybody has two negatives can go in. The building get to work, and then they'll get tested every other day for the first couple of weeks. I'm assuming Jay Glazer has something about the messaging that has been sent from the NFL to the players about this Marlin situation maybe some more players potentially opting out why they're opting out. I think Jay Glazer will be a wealth of knowledge here for you and about. Our. Clock, doesn't work whenever you use your facetime sideways. What is that all about this thing stinks Six minutes since five minutes almost J. J. schedule is going to change a lot because I don't know about you an Indie Jay would go to a ton of training camps and hang out with the head coach is all the time I'd see him with Mike McCarthy in Green Bay three days. I saw him in Cincinnati with Marvin. Lewis. Tight. With so many coaches. Drop. Your phone like, do you feel bad now for bad mouthing all your guests that can't figure it out their phone situation. used. To think people were just the dumbest ever like you'll figure out your phone figure out technology. But this is impossible because I have to stay like this if I want to say in the camera frame because got pillows and a bed. But I don't talk about situation. And I'll talk about problems I talk about solutions, talk about answers, and that's what we're currently doing right now and get a little bit of an Echo 'cause I'm screaming the other side of the room right now but I think I found the solution here. This isn't one of those beds turns out that you can jump around on it and the piece a glass of wine on the other side we'll stay standing but yeah, you're. The Jay Glazer handshake or is not going to happen this year. So we'll. He still have this insider his Intel doing zoom calls with all these people to get information from them. There's a big question is well, how much is this changing his profession which he is in we made fun of him rather hard for that entire Brian Allan Guy or Bryan Johnson guy what's his name Brian now and you got Brian Out I knew that backup center for a team that we know about the. He has done great work giving us information. And I think he will drop some information on show but this changes all aspects sportsman. People can't meet with players obviously, they have to do it via zoom. The players have to now watch everything that they're doing. Tobin nineteen is obviously affected the world. Fashion. Carry a lot of people going through things anybody that gets a play sport for living in the middle of this pandemic is obviously living drain. That is true. But there is a new set of circumstances and guideline that everybody has to adjust not be exciting here what J. Glazer's doing to do that? What do you say to people that think the on the field product? Is GonNa be sloppy and not look like it normally does. Listen I watched my and they look better than they've ever place. So. They bad but it is so much about what the penalties last night by the way round a sixteen Columbus Crew Minnesota whatever their team's name they went to penalty kicks last night Minnesota has been practicing those Columbus not congrats through Minnesota soccer team over there that moves on the MLS has been exciting I. Don't know I think it's better question for you because I've always talks about how first couple of days of training camp if you have a new offense or younger offense, the offense gets crushed in slaughtered by the defense because defense is since the beginning of time Sebolka get ball, that's all it is in the first couple of. Days of training camp on a very regular occasion, not when Payton was there because at cruise around for a long time, I was always like well, here we go. We're going to be putting seven thousand times this year we can't move the ball at all but then after a couple weeks happened, the offense finds a little bit more rhythm. They know a little bit more plays do that entire thing with this season and they got forty eight days to kind of figure it out and strengthening conditioning and padded practice. They won't have any preseason games. Do you think it's going to favor the defense early like it does what training camps? Yeah, it might favor the defense early but honestly, like once you get into game action like regular season Games. It's football's football man like in especially they have a six week build up where they do like the workouts. Then they go to kind of Ota schedule and then you have training camp yet won't be preseason games, but you'll have enough was on one scrimmage into the the toughest thing. Getting into a game is when you're first like real live action in a game happens in preseason lot. You're like, oh, there's no one blowing the whistle like this guy normally you ron defender and you kind of either tag off or you thud then your first time you're so much more tired taking guys at the ground. That's what you realize. You have to chase the ball that much harder to get them down sometimes you forget yeah. There you go like they wanna to see you throw your arms and thud the the backer receiver in A. Game All it takes a lot more energy. Great tackle. Would you wouldn't you get more tired when you would get into the regular season a preseason and you're like, Oh, I got actually cover this point now just GonNa stand here and watch this beautiful thing I was so thankful for the regular season because we'd have bombs blocking for me in preseason anymore I was so much happier and it was like, okay, this matter. So for me I don't even like to have these conversations because to be honest my position is nothing in comparison to everybody else's position. When, it comes at training camp the dog days of training camp like I didn't mind training camp like it's kind of cool kind of getting away. I'm kind of hanging out by the lobby but hangs out with. We'll do a little tim robbery building of go meet with the fans of science monographs for like four or five hours I'll eat some food here. All right like training camp for me was just one big social gathering. You know it wasn't that bad where everybody else obviously has much different. Aspect of, but when it comes to level of play for me when regular season heightened up a little bit, there's always something in your mind like, okay. This matters you know like, okay, this matters this matters this matters as much as you try to be professional when I was like I have the mindset like, okay. Practice reps are it's like in practice I would try to put myself into a situation where it's like okay. Here we are fourth quarter were up six. All right let's figure that I. Would always try to do that and I think that's what the great still having been. A Terry can do that. Jim. Called always talked about that's what Peyton was able to do but there's something to regular season that just means so much more and especially now I think maybe that first game or two, there could be a situation where guys like Oh damn. This is real. Oh Damn. This is real here. We there might be that moment of like all right we got actually get to this thing. As XENA. What's the? What's our progress on Jay Glazer If you want me to call them on the phone right now, we call them right now on the phone or Looking. Why because. This is your. This is what you WANNA. Do you wanted to interview? Hey let's call him on the phone so we can keep pat here. We can why by hat crooked is this my head or the hat that's a good question. Little slanted the hat or we can hang up one of you do a three time facetime. Hang up on me. So my connections better you got all right. Here you go. Man Oh man. Magazine show I'm. Supposed to be hosting today though. So the fact that I'm here is kind of ESPN Lena Hotel in Pittsburgh awaiting the final alterations for my Tuxedo because I'm getting married on Saturday to love like. I've been masked up out here in Pittsburgh I've been in quarantine in his hotel I to be honest going a little bit stir crazy but but for the wedding. Steve Dot for. For the wedding I'll be back in studio. Tomorrow we have some great Gas Pierre McGuire will be joining us from bubble. I do believe. So we got some good stuff popping off in right now I mean get ready to have your eyes blown in your ears mesmerized not only is AJ hockey super bowl champion joining. Mayton. But also a man who's an insider's insider man at ten tenets rates any story that you could possibly fathom the man who broke the news of the first ever covid nineteen case in the NFL Ladies and Gentlemen He will we what are you wagging you're. Not yet. Compliment Jay Jason. I'm birthday. The Path that I? Did I see the sandals given free money again, tomorrow night Oh thank you for bringing that up dumbest dumbest campaign in sports gambling history. We started this in Indiana with the colts and saints, and then we did for the IU do game. It's called the spread the love campaign. Now granted when we first did it, they had only every two hundred fifty bets. It would gain a point on the spread and we got the coats up to like plus fifty nine and by the way they almost lost. then. We did the purdue game and we got the Indiana up to like plus one hundred and something in a fifty dollar. Max. Bet Now we're doing it for the return of the NBA tomorrow night this spread the love campaign is every single state that is legal for Fan does sports gambling every twenty five hundred batters picked the Lakers in the spread the love campaign it goes up a point the Lakers started at minus bore. We're at even money before we want to bed last night. So ten thousand people already are in on it. This is team bedding to the NTH degree. We're in this together to take down band. So if you obey obeyed in state, Defendu operates in, we need you because this will be a lock fifty dollars in the pocket for everybody that gets in there. This team betting we need to do it now speaking team betting, here's a man that I'll bet on to break news if I need some news to be broken, not only is eight Jayhawk Super Bowl champion here is supposed to be hosting my show so I'm not sure why I'm doing this Hits Berg right now but joining us now you're insider's insider from Fox Sports Ladies and Gentlemen Jay Glazer. So pattern. You're. Married. Going on. Over there. Saturday I'm getting married my final alterations to my talks are being made on picking that thing up this afternoon and going right back Indianapolis Jack I got two words for you e- Lok please. Take welling advice from the dude who was married for ten months. I got all the answers true story. For ten months. My friends at my wedding had a divorce pool. Rendezvous Barbara ten months. The knows. My friends are Jag offs clearly. Did you make it. Are you still married? No ten months. Since the point story. Oh my God that's less than I think hey, I, think Vince Vinny Chase from entourage was what he got the force I think in like a week aside from that you Kim. Kardashian Kris, humphries? I mean. This is a record Jay, that's an absolute record. Why really got divorced only so rendezvous would win. Ten months. Thin been on the. Front of the Euro. You know how to sacrifice their wedding. I let's get into this because you are a good friend in your friendships are what make you basically such a weapon in this industry in this world what have you been hearing from NFL teams about what happened with the Marlins. Have they instituted anything with the MARLINS or is there a lot of conversations we need you guys be locked down on your houses like how were they going to handle this? So we don't have a Marlin situation in every single NFL locker room locker room and locker rooms. Everybody's on top of each other. Look her obviously using this as a teaching tool to tell these guys. Do you guys have to police your shelves and you know obviously different baseball around each other every day football you'll have that week breaking between if there's an operate or something happens, but the problem was sportsman whether it's off. The last last-second figuring stuff out happens all the time. We've had all this time of year in the NFL and they go down to less it always. This it's with everything that's sports leagues. With they do. There's no. There's no normal anymore. There's no normal. So that's our new normal. If that makes sense probably doesn't. But as a result. You want to be proactive as you can't I. Don't think anybody knows really what to be proactive. So. Whoever's the best? Reacting. Right. I think have somewhat of the leg up if you will. But I mean look at the Vikings did all this put so much time and effort and then Air Guy Eric sugarman. Getting the. So there is is much want to say, okay we. Got All this stuff place. We have this guy spearheading it. Then he gets it how do you? Prepare for that A. J. how does this change your schedule? I mean I know I was telling pat before you came on you. You'd be riding in in head coach's car wherever whatever team I'm odd you such tight ship with these guys you're over the locker room traveled around all over the place. Are you still going to be able to have that access remotely in for yourself with the rest of the media like how are they gonNA handle this year. I am not going to go more training camp tour this year to. Look forward to. Seeing you. had. Also. Take my little rescue with me. It was awesome I'd so much that might going to do it this year because just so many protocols after you go through to get into each facility. So I'm going to do a lot of what you guys are doing. A ton of face time a lot of some, some some a lot of phone calls I'm going to have to put in the same out work. It's just going to have to be virtually I doubt man I got no choice right? We can't. Here's the bottom line. We will get through this because we own the choice. That's our only freaking choice to get through. So. Whatever we have to do to adapt, we can't shit in bitch about it and say Oh my God always since there's change that's not going to serve me or anybody else that he purpose we've just roll with an adapted as fast as we can. An. Out Make It work for. US. Better than it has in the past. I don't know if it'll be better than it wasn't a pass. So. I don't want. That way I like that you're doing that I got I'm going to play games on my own I gotTA, make it that way. Hey However, you got frame Ajay, it will always work. It'll work out because it always has to literally because we're just living this life. So it always worked out. Let's talk about the Patriots Organization here. And I honestly I think that something is up here. Now I just and I am not the only person there's been people that have been saying, Hey, what does bill belichick know about the rules of contracts during this obstacle thing house he doubling is salary cap. Guys opt out his he telling people to opt out. Is there any truth to that narrative that bill belichick in Ernie Adams or puppeteer in this entire opt out to make their team in a much better position than they were just a couple of weeks ago Got Cameras and other guys Cova testing centers. Got As many conspiracy theories with the Patriots this as you do you know the the government list but man, if they're gonNA have guys down I, don't think it's going to be guys like hightower. It's Starting tackle it's. I don't know what's going on over there because I I'm looking at. The Patriots, you don't want to discount anything you definitely don't, but I don't think there's any hidden rule here, the checks all a look if it is. Framed. Will pick up on a pretty quick. Do. The same thing. Yeah what what? Okay. So what do you think the Patriots? Do they have this cap space? Do you see them going out there and look guys we had Michael Bardi on yesterday and he said. Like clowning is not a fit for the Patriots but what about a Guy Clay Matthews when bill trying to bring him in Seattle but you don't get a lot of cap space for guys like that. You can go after place. You know they're not going to be huge money guys a couple of guys out there on the street that too. But you free up cap space it. SPLASHES, they make flashes the other way they don't. What makes me crazy bring people in you know they're usually want. Train. You know doing crazy things like trade Chandler Jones and not miss not business. They traded writing Boston Minnesota. They're not the ones who go out there and a little and. Pull Jamal Adams pepetrated. Cam Newton for million bucks nowhere six days he was unemployed, which by the way is exactly your point about a splashy opposite direction as opposed to dumping money. They actually somehow spend less money than every quarterback the cowboys have on the roster for their starting quarterback. Let's go to your quarantine Jay. We have to talk about it. We have to talk about it. You put a forty eight hours keys or up K on breaking this. Is that a situation where Saudi was going to be bigger news than it was or is that a situation where people are being disrespectful and they should have been disrespectful you. Disrespect. Me Care less. No look the I regret how it went down. I regret. Al. Apple without a doubt. but it wasn't you know. I'd sets up because you know we're talking about and I was like you like, no, it's not. It's not that the way my words came out completely wrong. I wish I went not. Look I was having worked twitter I. Wish I went on twitter earlier that day. I wish I said to the world what I said to you number? No. When I said it was. A big news story national newstalk met news national news now and. Again but bright side, we're going to do it for the show. For the Fox show. So it's not like I was going to reveal on twitter, but if I had to do over again, I'd say Oh my God this getting out of control. Is going to look bad on him. Bounce, it's GonNa. You know. The Nation out there. So let me just tell everybody what it is. It just got away from it. I regretted I definitely wish it did happen that way but but that was the night before on radio and they've got Ra- laughing about what I have the next day. So no no. It's It's. It's a national news tour serious when I experienced a minute serious rush do. It's serious. But it came across like no no this is really serious. Huge breaking news imagine just the whole thing got away at what point during the day and like. Getting, out of control. This Going to go over well, trying to get people like man wave maybe she just released it. I was actually getting ready for an MVP session. So like crap man I'll just. Start, adopting some other stuff of bets and. Like I said it just Kinda. Got Me there. But Man I wish it didn't happen that way. If I had quoted I'd let Brian Allen And you're GONNA give dot every once in a while Jay that's the business. In the fact, by the way that not only you owned it but moved on all the work you've done outside of football reporting and that's just going to be a glitch in the Matrix. No big deal no big. I mean rap dunking on you the next day with Miller Kinda route but I will say I'm happy you own. This I was I was texting you. Like what is not, but it's not, it's not. Everybody thinks it's not what everybody thinks. Like I said I was going to come out of wish we share our text of the whole world. So we didn't have the situation I. Feel bad for Brian. crapped on as if you like wasn't a big enough name like. That part of it also, but you know. What was what I wish people got missed Back then like grinding, even understand like what the symptoms mets trying to do the to shed light on what the symptoms we're trying to do something good. But it ended up being bad the way I handled it jade is older you hesitant. Next. Time you have some big breaking news that you're just GONNA dump it. You're not going to hype it up. When it comes to code. Yeah. But if I got something that I have to wait so you guys. I worked Fox News Sunday it works for TV shows so. Stop and every year my career I'd have to wait for Sunday breaks up I can't break it Thursday Friday and I've lost so many stories by haven't away functionable. Sunday. That's my job. That's why I have to do and a lot of them. Thank God man. They held, which is Great. So The problem is. You lose those stories halftime. Be You know if my? Gaza home get like five guys at Fox they're like you're crazy. We don't. Do this. And I've lost a ton of those stories just because I have no choice but to wait till Sunday. So it's still my deal now. I know it's not going away. We'll do it. You only reason I didn't do it then is because we agreed for doing for the show I didn't say, Hey, Brian and he's like Out Twitter when it came to something like that wanted author where we decide, we're going to do it. Jalen let's talk about your show has there been conversations about how the show will go this year because that's show is obviously I've gotten a chance to see that said I got an tour with a bunch of other people that want to contest to get a chance to go in there. I've seen it. You guys are all kind of a big family atmosphere to be family group. Have you guys been figuring out how you're to go about doing the show and as a follow up a let you go on this run a little bit since box nfl Sunday is not happening this Sunday. If you WANNA break any news, you can do that now. To. McAfee. IS A. It we're going to make joke but I can't do it. Without that out there. Let's. Let's here. This guy came to all of us on Fox News, Sunday. They have like six Super Bowl rings. We have like twenty eight weddings. Really. The AH. Up One and ask him. That my best Massachusetts wedding. Horse best man speech in the history of life. No Man now I left the wedding it was it was awful. It was. Just. I- Napalm the. Wedding. I medical jokes that I did realize that Ended up being true had no idea. How long filming it he's like. Oh I god. What is? Not The worst thing I've ever said and you. Didn't end up going great man, but we recovered from brothers do. Aj Jay we I think we need some video you need to release that video that'd be breaking news apart. We'll how he's how we'll put how we notice if we get him on the show, maybe he plays for us but last question for me I know we gotta get to a break here in a second but hey, Kabibi just engaged she. How excited are you October twenty four th at fights actually happen. Yeah. About. I know he worked for Bell Tour. Your. May enthusiasts could be man his double-leg down I've never seen I mean shoot across the highway for you and take you down to. That's the thing. If He can say on the sure we can get them but man, I've never seen anybody be able to stay on their feet people stand there people could be because he decided to let them stay on their feet otherwise he can do whatever we damn please with you. You said about Fox. talker producer. Bill, bridges. We're still figuring out because what's great about us and obviously we are we gonNA show man we don't Hersh. We don't meet. We have one meaning we can talk about fake rehearsal and we just go you know. Each Other family. Best Man's each other's wedding godfathers, our kids, and it's A. Special Different not sure how we're going to do it yet because obviously, we can't have all of us together on the football field all of us together. We got to keep our chemistry. I'm sure going to keep our chemistry across each other, but it's still something that they're working out at like I said, I think nothing is normal anymore. So somehow we're GONNA have to make our new normal just as good as will. Look Good luck with that Jay we appreciate you joining us can't wait. Break next we can't thank you enough in hopefully hopefully, you haven't drank all those bottles of wine sitting right behind you there. I'm big. Court. A court door. corked org. Wow I love Alec the throttle bottles, but I'm not that much of a court Dork I. Respect everything you've got going on ladies and gentlemen, your insiders insider from Fox and Baladora Ladies and Gentlemen Jake Glaser. Thanks. To a break here, fade away to a different screen pass where where are we gonNA break but if you just WanNa break yeah. It came out of nowhere at forty seven. The fuck of you guys been doing back I couldn't tell you. I I I've been looking around this room I've no clocks anywhere around me right now. So the only one is on my phone sits on facetime pop for whatever reason I I enjoyed talking to you could tell you could tell there was some nights thereafter that Brian Allen News Wpro for he was not thrilled to be Jay Glazer I bet yeah it's real nice that he showed you know big big regret just because obviously it didn't turn out how he wanted to. Would you ever do something like that in your life show regret when I ever join anything like that I don't even know how to spell regret so. Aj Hawk Fun fact. Once what's on your dry race board? Becker Corner Hawk phone fact Aj once left a liquor store carrying ten cases of Bush heavy beer. Is that true. So. wikipedia. He's muted your. Kentuckiana. You'd himself but he can carry ten cases of bushes. Cases think about that five arm sweet Jesus that's a record of some sort. Still. Muted J I mean you're still muted. Now, he's good. I'm good I. Think I'm good. I was just talking to j on the face time that we've stayed on. What's going on because he was just staying there stare at the camera was just me and him Hey Man I think. Radio. Show what to break with the Youtube still live I'm not really sure what we're doing he. got. A notification. Oh, man. To join this. Zito production baby he felt terrible about that. Brian Allen reaction was obvious I kind of feel terrible bringing it up to Brian Allen to. I. I think. I mentioned a UFC fight and not a thing. was that all about because he does work for ballots or so I guess we get here to be on him, but he is denied that started introducing MMA training to football players. Yeah and I believe me I know I see him on the Desk Bell Tower I. Knew We had a bell shirt on but I think he's your free talk about all. Just the one company you work for. His belt or really think you're going to compete with you. Now they can't i. mean they know they know overtake them but they want a chunk of the Pie and bill tour is backed by Viacom. Endless money so they can they can throw. All innocent Sylmar. You see that dog. I didn't see it. Do it again accurately that's what's GonNa fucking happen. You you. You know you know what I mean her back. Are you three? Five, four brings. To want. Are, welcome back all the radio listener's hopefully you were tuning on youtube to to follow are a the end of our interview Jay? Glazer. Is the PAT MAC show I'm Jay Hawk sitting in for him we have a few minutes left is still with us from his hotel room in Pittsburgh pretty spacious hotel room for some reason laying on his stomach staring into the camera all day. On my God but he is currently trying some form of karate. It looks like on his bed. With what's up? It's going on Aj thanks for having me. Thanks for hosts and you've done a fantastic job can't thank you enough for stepping up here with the boys. I'll be back in studio tomorrow. So go ahead and take some time off maybe hang out with the kids. But thank you for everything that you've done and what a wild being sports hijack. What time it is are we doing? We're doing maxine hope tomorrow we. Yes. Let's do it. What tons are hard out Z. We have woman it love goes one minute. Pat. What do you got one minute? What are you have some inspirational haulers? Sometimes when you're waiting for a private plane, four hours, five hours to fly you to get your Tuxedo perfectly altered for the wedding that you're going to have this weekend to marry the love of your life. You have these deep conversations with yourself. You say, Hey, pat how did we get here? Hey, pat. Why are we your? Hey, pat. Why do you keep saying your name and say, Hey, to yourself, and the reason is because at some points, you have to look in the mirror to look inside and say, what are we going to do with our lives today to make us better? Today, for instance, I decided to ron pass karate kick a pillar to I decided to talk to Jay Glazer. I got to talk to. Aj Hawkins ahead the mindset that. Is Better than yesterday into tomorrow. Tomorrow's tomorrow will be better than today. So whenever you look in that mirror and use to that. Tell you? What? Just went. To. Cut You off. Sorry. I was trying to cut you off I. figured it's your show. You know when your heart out is you've been doing this show for two years. Apparently, you do not have a clock. Aj fucking clocking. Ryan that about you scan that hotel room I'm guessing there's a clock somewhere I just look, but it's actually it's off though. Over there because I am plugged into plug my phone. For this show that you were supposed to host today Jay. I you we. So your radio show is off right now pat it's just the the youtube stream and you did leave us with a pretty inspirational. chows I was just getting going though the home plate face was just starting. You know like I i. don't know where else was did I. Don't know what the last chapter that was gonna be but I was excited to get there. Just like everybody else was I'd assume and I'd say there it is right there Bingo. Eight. Does look like your face. I'm starting to see it. I'm starting understandable the hair especially. All. Right. I'm done with this show. That thank you for joining your own show today. Have had fun last few days. I know you said at eleven twenty two you had to go it's currently eleven fifty five. Thank you for staying. What does I don't know what you're what you delayed what was going on. Maybe you have another private jet delay. That's the only reason. Able stay with us. Thank you. For coming on the show today appreciate you know I just wanted you to kind of sink out there with just Jay. Glazer. It would actually gone much easier if it was just me because he wouldn't have the back and forth and I'm getting my ear that we're going to talk radio break but we're staying on youtube all this situations happening I don't WanNa, cut j. off and hey, we're radio is going to break guys you got but continued your great chat like I wouldn't get into that to the jungle show business. What have you learned? Have you learned that I make it look incredibly? Is that what you've learned? Your Great. What you do, I'm not saying you're not. Here, amazing. What do you do it just in studios? Lot Lot. Different when you're in studio, you know you when you're going to break I just don't I don't want to be rooting cut people off in it just for the radio listeners. Well, you don't have clock in there. You don't have to look at the time is that what it is internal? Wouldn't Know is not going to carry them all the way to the break. What'd you say? Stinks. That's the problem you haven't figured out that when we talk at the same time, it mutes me. I can't hear what you're saying. Well I'M WANNA facetime from outside. So it's not just like picking and choosing I mean it's it's normally probably just going with whoever but I want to let you know I think you've done a great job last couple of days. Now the voices in your head telling you like, Hey, we gotta get to a break. Hey, we need this this maybe throw a youtube so we can promote that a little bit because they're watching as well. So it's remember them. That's stuff is all things that you'll be able to deal with but I think you've done a really good job harm series. It makes no sense to me why you don't have a job at one of his main networks, but I'm sure fucking excited that they haven't hired you man. Jay. Jay. Neck. Hey. This is what I have the most fun doing. That's a big reason. that. You do. I forget who I was talking to. About it within the last twenty, four hours towards somebody that's a hotel or somebody at alteration place. Though like when you go on ESPN? Fox. They've established their network here for so long they have rules, and if you break rules, you gotta go through this person this person this person. Like this is my network I guess so. Like if somebody breaks the rules I have to handle that like I'm the one that has to be like, Oh, you can't fucking sue that like is that what I'm supposed to do is that if we continue to grow here, which we're going to try to do obviously we're GonNa try to add add shows I. Don't think I'm going to add people to. The office because I just don't know making somebody moved Indianapolis to create content would be weird but I think we're gonNA continue to add shows to this channel like I'd like to be live throughout the day because I think you know I think we can all offer an alternative sports option for people to cover. Now we don't have highlights or anything like that. But when somebody fucks up on there in my the person going to have to like do that like I'm the person to hang on this network. We'll do that is that what I'm going to have to do because I feel like that is potentially. A weakness of mine felt like people you can't say something to do something. That's the tough part about being the boss. You're going to have to make the tough decisions eventually and you know like you're already huge in what you do and channel and everything that you've built. But if you do take on more things, you take more people someone's GonNa come on and say something on a show on your network where you're going to have to publicly condemn them be pressured to fire the person. By the way I am huge you're right. Boys we have a we have great breaking news. Out Positive Breaking news that the for the second straight day no one on the phillies has tested positive for covid nineteen ninety. Five all base they were squeak dancing with death there with the marlins there whenever the MARLINS had seventy five people get cozy nineteen the phillies somehow playing on the same diamond with the same ball in the same park at the same time as a team those having killed in nineteen outbreak manages to have nine shot to the phillies shot cove in nineteen deciding that they don't want. To Infect Philadelphia phillies locker room or Dugout. In sucks for the Marlins if they continue to be the only team that has anything go wrong this is positive though this is good stuff. This means if you're around covid nineteen, it doesn't necessarily guarantee you're gonNA have it and that's good news for the NFL in by the way that's good news for the world baby. Here we go. Here we go. The show is over PAT. What are you got next today? I gotTa go pick up my thing. The whole thing. So the next time I leave this hotel I will see my entire toxin, its entirety. Good for you well, I know I'll be I'll be talking to you tomorrow but. Hope everything's going well hopefully. Sam. is in too stressed out maybe you're taking a few things offer plate a know she has enough to deal with already I hope your point wait. I'm. Not. I don't is that I've. Whenever the other night. She's gone through a checklist of all the shit you know. And I had no idea what any of it was like most like seventy percent of it. I had no idea what's going on like with the details the finer details she's put together here arches net the Napkins fucking every it's like. It's insane and then we went through pictures of our grandparents. The other day, there's GonNa be pictures of people. We wish were there and stuff like that. It got real emotional I. J, have you seen pictures of DAD's mom. Yeah, it's been a little while but I've seen a few. See I. I don't think I'd seen them in. Maybe someone as a kid but we here's like ten pictures of my dad's mom they. My Dad's mom passed away when my dad was seventeen. So my mom never even met her and then there was pictures of my dad's mom's mom and dad. So like I got a chance to like see like ancestry dot com basically the last couple of days because Sam has collected all of this. So it's like it's been a really cool emotional last couple of days but SAM's been the MVP by far and I just hope she says, yes or whatever onsite Saturday because if she decides to say, no I mean I would like to tell her now because spry watching like you wasted a lot of work so. Just think about saying, yes, you know that'd be cool. I think it's a safe bet she will say, yes I well, planning a wedding. By yourself, which is what she has been doing pretty much is already enough. Adversity and so much difficulties. Three times three different weddings, different locations, but then. You GotTa finalize everything during Cova didn't follow protocols and do all that and and try to figure all those things out I mean. I don't know that's more than a full-time job that's brutal. So credit is. She's a bad ass. I'm very lucky. The things that she's very good at I. Think yet emotions caring putting things together stuff like that I am not good at at all. She's the perfect Yinzer Mayenne and. It all comes to be on Saturday and hopefully mytalk Spitz and hopefully looks good hopefully. Hopefully, we'll see. fucking met what's going on dog? Nice. You look. Pretty. Good. It's off color. You. Such a bag of bones you should have seen him stumbling in this morning. I thought he was going to throw up before we came in here. He looks sober I thought. So now it's 'cause you know he did something before he came in here well, all you smoked vitamins. Not True. Cocaine. Couple smelling salts as well. I mean the kid is off his rocker today. You're by the way look at you. Feel good. It's like the best I felt in threes. All the Patriots quit feel good on just because we already knew an and now we have so much cafes. We're GONNA bring back probably to leave Logan Ryan bringing Everson Griffen, and we might as well go get Timmy Jernigan to if we don't have linebackers. Stacked up we'll be fine. Hey very till who cares. All the players aren't playing. Let's go. Bill Belgium Omega Work Aj. You're the greatest I got do my thing Thank you for cover me cover my ass last couple of days. All right. Appreciate. You man appreciate you you guys back in. And I'll see you guys tomorrow. See Boy. Safe travels. Oh Tie, thanks. Just hang up. Minimize Voice. Yeah The pilot we had. One of your favorites. Yeah. Captain Booze bag I heard yeah. Soon as he walked now granted. I mean the traveling was a fucking nightmare. But when he walked in, I, knew we're okay and I was pretty pumped that they're still the rule that I would not playing with you because I knew your reaction to him flying us would've been bit negative and we did need that four hours in that thing. 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Slash Pat and enter Promo Code Pat Twenty to save twenty percents off your fracture glass sprint. We. Thank fracture for sponsoring this podcast. Now we have to pivot to the college football world. We have an absolute legend, a man who has coached now in six different decades lice sport of football. In this man's name are synonymous national champion. Now, the head coach of the University of North Carolina Tar Heels Ladies and gentlemen they handsome the young the incredibly good dancing. Mack Brown. Gadji doing good there until you got incredibly handsome and dancers. Credible now, hey, everybody knows that that video that came out of you dancing in that locker room was next level magical and you had some rhythm in their coach. You had some rhythm in their got better. You GotTa get better at the end of the year. So made progress I told the guys. Okay. You've embarrassed me and my wife said it's the most embarrassing thing. Anybody's ever done nationally. So at least you can help me so we got the mop. MOP BETTER THEY I don't know if it's the mob of the ball, but you look incredible with it. Either way go ch can we talk about how and I said this in the introduction you that seat coach if you could see this or not coach look at you you're five and look at is. You. Know you hey. Well, you're amazing. It's been very nice to meet you this last year because I got to work with the crew that you worked with the year before whenever you're still retired as opposed to going back and coaching at UNC and I'd like to talk about your work at UNC because you've been able to turn around that program very quickly. But let's go ahead and take a trip back a little bit when I introduced you, I said this man is coach football in six different decades. That is something you're football guy through and through everybody that's ever played for you. Love you. Feel. Damned. Good. But let's talk about your time at Texas because that's where you want a national championship. What was it at Texas that you had that incredible Ron and then you decided to step away was there any big reason behind that or is it just you felt like it was time? I did feel like it was time sixteen years as my wife says, four presidential terms at one school anymore is a long time. Lou Holtz told me when I was a young coach five years is long enough sevens eternity ten is way too long. I want and sixteen and and I think I was worn out. Because I hadn't had a break for thirty one years and there's no sabbaticals for head coaches. So if you could just take a break for a year like I had a five year break is such and did TV and had fun doing it. But I got my energy back. I got to see things from a different perspective from the media saw. Thanks from a different perspective and coaching a saw so many games, I saw practices, and as the head coach at Texas you don't get to do that. You stand your little bubble and and you're worried about recruiting. You're worried about the same speeches media gets tired of you. You get tired of them. They've heard all your stories and they don't laugh anymore. Sometimes. It's just best for all parties to move when I when I got there to ask coach Royal Legendary Coats. The stadiums named after two successful. What Texas he said there's a lot of diversity here. Coach. He said you got national media you got local media you got faculty that grassroots you've got. Boosters, you got billionaires said, you got high school coaches morning body else in the country and and then you've got ex players and then you've got a people that just move in and become Texas fans and he said it's like the BB's of been in a box no boxes drop the beezer scattered all over the room. He said your jobs to get the baby's back in the room and I had them in the room for about twelve of those sixteen years. The last four add some BB's bouncing around we'll. Get A job with it. So it was just time for somebody else to step in. Do you think you potentially and nobody will doubt your love for the game but do you think you had to kind of reinvigorate your love for football after sixteen years at one place and kind of getting more I? Don't WANNA say worn out after thirty one years of coaching. But do you think you had to kind of step away to kind of find that flame again for the sport of Football? I asked coach royal why he quit he won three national championships acquitted fifty two. and He made a statement, pat that's really good for for all of us. He said the the winds became a relief and the losses became devastation. He said I had no joy in my life. So we're twenty, five and two and eight nine we play for the National Championship we lose to tech with three seconds left number. One in the country will lose Alabama. Houma lose our quarterback after five plays and a mad. And I'm frustrated. I'm not even happy with the team they won twenty five games and they lost to. So I kinda lost to a was and gone back down I'm enjoying the guys. Enjoy in the day to day with them and I am joined doing what I got into coaching far, and that's the mentor young people in. Our coaches are younger than I am a mentoring are young coaches and it's fun. It's fun because I had all these older guys, mentor me and that's a Gif knack and give back to them. I got a chance to call a couple UNC games this past season I got a chance to go into your hotel and kind of see the energy and field of the vibe that UNC team and I obviously wasn't called covering college football before last year. But whenever we wanted to the UNC game and I looked and I kind of knew about the UNC tar heel football program into their whenever. We walked in that hotel that I time. It felt like a very different vibe in there and then obviously Sam how your freshman quarterbacks unbelievable. But it felt like the entire team had this belief like, Hey, we can be a good squad. You kind of I don't WanNa. Say Flip that overnight, but it did feel as if Mack Brown shows up team gets competitive all of a sudden. What was the first couple of steps get that team to kind of believe in buy in that they could be a good squad. Pat Larry Fedora did a good job here in the last couple years he had a bunch of injuries to quarterbacks bunch of bad luck and it just didn't work. So well, we had to do is number one gets a communication level where the players. So we walked and said, what are you? What's wrong? But why are you losing? Tell us why you need food stinks we'll fix the food. that. Every day on the training table, which didn't help me the way I look. sally and I went in eight every meal the food wasn't good. We said this is unacceptable in that lettuce older. I'm not eating that pick it up, get it out. So there's some credibility there with the players. Then why don't you go to your players? Lance. We don't like what's in there here notepad down what you want. We won't to Papa shots what kind. Down, what kind you want, we'll get you to papa shots, you use them, I want you in their. Coach, we don't like those video games yet. Tell me what video games you want. But I want you in there and I want it clean. What's wrong with your dressing room? I said you left your stuff Leeann ramble coach we it doesn't have a filter system in it. It's are closer dirty their wet there. Okay. We'll get you new lockers help design them. Wow here way won't in this locker what coach we'd like another outlet for our iphone and one for our computer. That's good. We got it. What else? Well, some of those sit up straight we like to have ours. Afraid, clean it up. So what you have to do is learn to communicate with young people and they say there's generation gaps. There's not there's communication gaps and and you got to be able to talk to people in my Gosh I didn't lose my building talk for somebody that I like. And then you bring a certain amount of credibility with a hall of fame when you walk in that room. Because they all want to win they all want to plan the NFL they all have fun I want to be taught, and then what you do, she build up that trust you build up that respect and then we have a common purpose and our common purpose of simple pat we WANNA have fun which a lot of people aren't doing right now in in sports there's too much pressure and they're miserable they're worried about losing getting fired or getting a better job I none of that. I don't have to worry about any of that stuff I'm here I'm here as long as I'm doing a good job and happy with it. So have fun. Secondly we want you to graduate that's what you came for. If you're not good enough to play, we'll try to find something for you to do but graduate. That's what she came for, and if you get that, you're a success and then thirdly we want to prepare them for for life after football because that's really really important to us and and then last we WANNA win all games and bid we'll say are you going to be next year? You thinking when I said all of them. If, you're not going to tell your players. You can win all on why going to say let's see. There's there six we can't win. Six that we can't win. So let's don't worry about them. Now you WanNa win all that's your goal. Let your job. That's like the classic whenever a media person a quarterback like do you think you're an elite quarterback and what does he says now I'm terrible. Struggling. We'll get slapped out of the locker room. If you're GONNA say we need you to think you are the guy and I said this after meeting you for the first time in that. Production me. I said to my boys actually I was okay. Never understood why the Mack Brown hype was everything. That was during those years. My West Virginia team that I was on I just rode the coattails of very talented people like we were a good squad right but the Texas. Everybody. was getting hyped up Kinda like the Santa Mossy I'm like the hell with the coverage of Matt Bradley I. Am Sick At this and then I had one conversation with you and I came out of that room and I was like, Hey, mack brown is the real deal dude that guy is the truth and I think after listening to you speak for that first time but in private conversation and also here I could see how you can make basically anybody want to run through a wall for you coach that. Thank you. We also have three basic principles that are not that hard to go by. And if everybody would do this, we wouldn't be having the issues and our country in in my estimation fair. We talk about injustice if you're fair, you don't have injustice. Be Fair to everybody all the time secondly be consistent. People want to know who you are. If you're this way one day and this way the next I want I want to be like fifty first dates. Our our staff to know what I'm GonNa do and why I'm GonNa. Do it all the time they're going to be included We asked the players all the time. What do you think but then I've got to make the final decision and then lastly always do what you know is the right thing to do. If. You do that. You don't ever have to second guess you don't ever have to look back. So we fair be consistent and do what's right and Life's not that hard when you when you do all that. Kids by and they know what we're going to do. And we have a leadership committee on I'll ask. Them. For. Discipline. Give me your opinion what what you want uniform. Do you WANNA wear? You won't go the movie Friday night or not I don't care I want you to win. Tell me what you do. So they come up with a lot of the ideas that steer our program. Coach Hey, there's not a lot of coaches like you and it makes a Lotta sense why everybody talks the way you talk because whenever we traveled around and met a Lotta coaches and also experience and things like whenever I heard you talk I was like there's a reason. This dude is the guy in the fact that you because a lot of people can talk about it right. But can you actually walk the walk and whenever we talk to your players? They're all like Mexico's dude he he literally we said something he gets it done but the expectations are still high and accountability still a real thing and when you have that especially with young people, you're GonNa have success what are you? Talking about doing the right thing and we had reggie Bush on probably a month ago. So and and we were talking about his heisman being taken away and how the committee or whatever then came to Vince, young and proposed him having the heisman did he talk to you about that and did you guys talk about doing the right thing potentially in that situation? We did what? Vance was better about it than ours Vance said the you know if Reggie loses the Heisman, they give it to me I say, don't don't say no yet. Big And events that no. I I didn't win it coach. He won it. he deserves it. If they take it away I don't WanNa, be a second choice and good for him. So again though I think it's what pat saying guys. You've got to have a relationship with your players that you can say anything you want without hurting their feelings because if they know you care about. When I first married sally she she said you're to direct this is the first six months not already been divorced I. didn't need it again. I think I. What do you mean I said I love you very much. I'm never ever GonNa say anything to purpose we heard your village. So if I say something and it's not what we say in you are living every day. It's what people here. I'm Tom. Gills. Say Well, that's not what I said. That's what you heard. Well, I told her and this is what we tell the players. If I say something that hurts your feelings come and ask me. I didn't purposely hurt your feelings you misunderstood. So comment come back to me and ask me what I meant not what you heard that literally happened in the studio yesterday coach I, don't know if you saw it I got I got a couple of us from guest on the show yesterday but I do WanNa talk to you. About Sally Your Wife, because whenever we were doing the production meeting, it was like a more personal conversation because you and Adam a meaner tight and you and tight in the production crew. If felt like and Hasselbeck are actually like sitting at a family meal almost at the time and it was it was very cool to listen to you talk about your wife I'm about to get married next week any. Any. Tips guides to make this last forever and hopefully not mess it up completely which I feel like I have a strong chance of doing yes. Well, PAT number one congratulations. Elated. So you you you prepared for this new what you're looking for at this at this early age in your life. Thank you and I would think that Yes, ma'am. I like that honey. Ought. Oh boy. Do I love you. I'm about this I call my wife at least once a day sometimes twice just to check owners see how she's doing. I call her before I go home every night to make sure she knows when I'm GonNa get there. Are I'll text her and say on my way BA five minutes. and then like I said I've said I love you you're a great friend of mine. So let's Dome Let's don't fight. You don't ever fight it. It's not worth it. you. You have discussions and you can have fun discussions and don't ever go to bed mad and don't ever fight of pick things that are really important to you to share whether. But if it doesn't matter, let let her have. Lost just let it go and and it works better. Yeah. That's what I can't wait to do with that master. Marriage Man Back Brown I appreciate that let's talk about an interesting conversation though that might be a little bit of a fight and that's current college football setup. Now, we've heard the big ten talk already and I think they did it from a business standpoint. They said we're going to have an interconference games and then PAC twelve allegedly cosigned with that and then. The SEC, they've moved all their sports from the fall except for football and you haven't really heard anything from the ACC yet. What are you hearing in? This is obviously an insane time to be alive. Even if you've been coaching in six different decades, what are you hearing what are the thoughts and I would assume that your opinion is carrying heavyweight in these conversations? PAT Number one I was feeling sorry for Myself Spring get Sarah players who has no spring practice we were young. We need to look at all s and and again you'll you'll find this with your wife. Sally said we've got people that are sick and dying all over world. We got people that are losing their jobs wind up people that can't they can't feed their kits. So let's help the the world get back. And then football takes care of it south. So so what we've been doing San I, it sounds like washing your hands social distancing and a mask is really helpful. You want your kids to go back to school. Let's do it. Don't like it. It's not our norm. But let's do it. I just walked out there with our players with a workout and they're having their masks on they didn't like. I said it doesn't matter you earl. I got one too I. Like it no, but I wanNA wear it. No is it less comfortable? Yeah. But if you WANNA play and. Then what we've gotta do is then we go back to school with our kids and our grandkids, and then we feel more comfortable and then we've got football. So John Swab, the commissioner has been working with the eighties and they've had input from the coaches and the president's, and I think we'll hear something from the ACC by the by the end of this month. and. We've all heard all the models. I am feeling like I know. PEOPLE WANNA play. there's some people that say it's not to the kids to bring them back. They WANNA play. I mean they're they're watching this morning they're competing and that they'll do anything to get on that field. So we've got a lean on our medical experts to make sure we're safe. And is that wearing a mask is that six feet apart? How do you do that play football while I'll stand there long when you get through with play get up let's where shield all the things that we're trying to figure out through the medical people give us a chance to play and play safely. So all of us WanNa play let's all do our part to play. And then for the kids, we've gotTa make sure that the kids the coaches, the fans, the media the the first responders, the essential workers at the Games are all safe. So that's what we're working on right now. So people that say, why don't they say something? It's so fluid because this virus is so different they find something every day. And I'm trying to learn as much from our medical people as I can and I'm just preaching I felt like a first grade teacher. This morning said, pull up your mass. Apart that's that's part of the new normal for us to play football us what we're going to have to do because we have to get through a break on Radio I. WanNa, ask you one more question that we you stick around for a youtube show. Yes. Okay. Let's get our. We're in a break for radio that was rather quick I. Think we've probably missed that great hosting Pat Thank you. Goats last question here and thank you for spending so much time with us like I think a lot of people who might have known about you got a chance to know about you a little bit here are GonNa love you impossible not to whenever you whenever you're done here in North Carolina whenever it is, I would assume your lease GonNa Finish out maybe ten more years who knows what you're GonNa do but Sam how this young stud, you got Amazon young group you got to really do some magic with North Carolina. Will you get back into TV? We maybe run for president. What are you going to do? You're great on television coach? Pat I learned that Right now, all of my energies are here and there in coaching and I can't look at what's next. Because I want to coach and I've already gotten out once I was so lucky to be on TV and had so much fun and as you met with your crew last year. So many great friends even today. At the atoms call in the game a today I think maybe the talks. In Chicago for Fox, can you imagine how cool is that for him being from Chicago and I just I'm so excited for him So I loved it it. It would be something I would look at obviously but I'm planning on doing this as as long as I'm happy and as long as I'm successful doing it. So I don't want to think about what's next done that my whole life. I haven't stayed in the moment. I've always been what what's next? What's better? Where am I going? What am I doing this isn't good enough. I'm trying to enjoy the day and that's some advice I would give all younger coaches and people really is don't always be looking for something better enjoy where you are because you don't get this day back and you don't get this experience back. So enjoy the experience and I've never done that well what I'm really trying to do that now. I'm going to push for you to be President I'll think. Kim. CATTLEMAN head coach Other University of North Carolina Tar Heels Hall of Famer. National Champion and legend, and Football Mack Brown. Oh. enjoyed that moment. Thank you. Go to the best man. He's a legend show. Unbelievable. Shoes I came out of the production me now is. Hey listen. I might have been one of the guys who was like all right enough a mack brown and you see it on the Internet, right? Even whenever we call it the UNC game now granted Adam Molly and Mac are very tight end the production crew because he was literally doing the job that and Hasselbeck game and took two of us to do what he was doing, but we come in there and do it and. 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Show on Fox sports radio. Welcome to the program. It's hour to on this Tuesday in the Danettes. Dan Patrick Show. We'll talk to the Lakers. Guard Alex Caruso. He'll join US momentarily. The Lakers wrapped up the number. One seed win over Utah last night. Joey Bosa the chargers defensive end will join US later on and Mike. Tyson will join us in a little more than an hour watching a lot of basketball last night. You Got Rockets Blazers coming up tonight. Your calls are welcome. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address DP. Dan Patrick Dot com twitter handle at. Dp show say good morning to our radio and TV partners. Mclovin the poll question before we get Alex. Caruso the the Lakers. It's hard hitting as you would say. Would you take a punch or Mike Tyson for a million dollars? Fifty eight percent of our audience is crazy and said yes. Let me start there with Alex. Caruso would you take a punch from Mike Tyson for million dollars? Alex fifty eight percent of your listeners avenue ever taken a punch. I think the last bist by problems maybe third or fourth rates while stay out of tend to stay out of the scuffles but I I. I weigh my mental health. I in dollar amounts Lot more than a million dollars. Have you ever taken a charge in the NBA? That you regretted where you said. This is going to hurt yet. There's been a couple on some on some some big guys I took when last night. You weren't George Just I just don't wait as much as bugling smaller. Tv feel pretty pretty big. Compare the averaging the out there unsmiling who came up with your nicknames. You got a few got like a an encyclopedia of the I would say mostly Lakers fans just over two years onto that got started this year. They turned off when I was there full time. They got the seen firsthand. What FAVORITE ONE Probably the crucial one just because the play on words name shuts is Kinda destined but bald Mama Mama and Bald Eagle. You're okay with those. What are you GONNA do? I doesn't sound like you're okay with those two. What are you going to do again like the fire dragging or something like that? When did you know you could play in the NBA? On those the two years onto the first two years to contract with the Lakers was figured out. Get out get playing time. You're in there based on injuries or bodies our down just the man is is out there out have a couple of plays. You're they're shooting possessions. more out there. I was just it really comfortable. You know you catch up to the speed of the game and then things start to slow down for you. When has Lebron ever yelled at you? I don't think so I'm pretty good. Yeah I think that's a good i. I tend to hold myself. Pretty standards so If anybody needs to correct myself it's usually young me. What was your welcome to the NBA. Moment feels like everybody has one good or bad You know I don't know if that actually I have I haven't go one. It was We're playing. We were playing warriors before they broke up the ban into it was it was. Klay Steph Katie. We're playing a game in. That point are Lakers teams are back. Court was me as it Thomas in the zone out to match up after time out and I'm doing the mental checkers appointing masterpiece. Not Looking like okay. That lives me with was Over the best just like just taking the new normal like full court pressure Ball round realize that did he say it out loud or just I will say I home. I only one pursued a tough shot over so I feel like that was pretty neutral. Neutral encounter. Yeah but you were really good defender in college. I mean you came. Lotta steals and opinion. I'm a really good defendant now. Well I don't know if anybody's a real good defender in the NBA. It feels like the way he's guy score who has who's tough match-up though when you go. This is not going to be fun. I mean you got the easy ones right like like Luneau stuff the stuff. You can do the basketball so under shoot It's it's almost like people root against them just because he's so good it's like what do you. WanNa make him do Alex. You can't let him shoot threes if you let him shoot. Three's going to put sixty on. You know we've seen that so many times and it's and it's a lot easier to say that than the do that but I think you just you gotta live with him. Get into the paint in creating for others are taking those little tough mid range of floaters which he's more than capable of making a name given the thirty six points so it's a it's kind of a lose lose you just to do your best in in in frustration. And he's so physical too. I think that's what people don't. It's a tough thing. Six seven new eat makes the setback Shoe jumper for most people. So that's that's a really tough one dame's a tough one. Danso is Rangers Unlimited in history. Really really quick so those are tough from obvious. Ones that Colli even even Paul George mean most of these guys. That are tougher guard. They're the ones that can shoot from thirty feet but also take you to the room who talks the most to you know? I really don't I really don't hear too much. You know at least least not towards me. I'm not a I'm GonNa Trash talker myself once a about halfway through my college career. Kinda Kinda dial back on that. It was slowing me down. I didn't have a very good Mental Edge while I was trying trying to talk trash Not a guy who can perform do that. So I'm I'm a high my teammates up instead my personnel. He's Alex Caruso the Lakers guard. He's partnering with Small Stars and they have a new short. That came out. Taco Tuesday where his small stars teammate join teammates joining for a weekly meal in fun? The sharable video here. Explain what you're doing with this. Yes basically have a little fun with the the plant TACO Tuesday Allama video out my social later today that Allah though explain it all a lot better but small stars basically. Just it's the twenty first century collectible right. It's a it's a a foot. Tall has a little magnetic basketball bigger than in your your normal collectible item or Bob. Way like that. I have a couple of them that the they sent me in when I took it out of the box I was surprised at how big the actual collectible was. But it's just a really really cool way for for basketball Mba favorite player eighty Brown Damon Johnson. The other ones that they're they're starting out with just a really cool thing to Kinda you Kinda Shea Fan I went to I went to Crusoe bobblehead doll working on. Organon crossing my fingers going down now. Lebron know that you've hijack Taco Tuesday I don't think he did. I think borrowed it. I wouldn't say hijacked I'M GONNA leave that up to you when you tell to Lebron because bigly his collectible that dinner so you know it's like part of him was was there too so we got the release basically you Mr Sister's wedding because of course we're in the bubble. What do you get your sister when you miss her wedding championship go? That's what I said that's ever pay that right. Yeah that's the best gift you can give her on the on the bus in the parade. We'll call you. Could you answer this honestly even though you're his teammate if I said WHO's the MVP the NBA this season loaded question? I would say well. Okay if I took Lebron off the ballot them who is not vishal. Lebron I I think it has to be John Okay. I think I think John is is a is a phenomenal player. In stuffy does night in night out. He's he's the mismatch. I think that's the way the League's going where you have a big six nine the seventy foot winger or post-second angle shoot. Get to the rim play. Make the League's turned into. Even you see we got to on our team. Lebron in that's a luxury every team has to have one. Now he's doing it at the highest level and Lebron at his age and I had Damian Lillard on a couple of weeks ago and he said he's still the MVP. He's not what he wants was physically but he is so smart. What is it about him that you're on the floor with him that he has this basketball? Iq That's through the roof. He just I. I've always prided myself in having a bass like you rub in. A real heavy player can kind of see place develop for the happen Being around him into especially him but also John. Rondo those two guys on the same team. It's some of the film sessions in some of the the conversations. They have in practices. Shoot arounds about how you -sition somebody put somebody in a certain place on a play. They see stuff on a different level. You know it's been a it's been awesome for me to just be team agency that process. See how they mentally worked through stuff? Just because I'm such a basketball junkie. You know that kind of stuff gets excited but you can't even you can't even speak to how he's plan at his age but then you match that. How smart he is. I think that's how he's able to keep the story. You're going to tell your grandkids or kids about Lebron. Probably his work ethic probably probably how a that's going to be my like my pillar as a as a father is work hard and you can do what you want your liking. That's kind of how I got the NBA play-off stain is working through it and moving around him. That do more than anybody I know. Is You stem. I in the gym last leave. He's getting treatment stuff like that. That's that's who he is. Have you been invited to his house for Taco Tuesday? We have not been out of the house long horns I know but prior to quarantine he had Taco Tuesdays. And you never never made the cut across almost intimate sex today a little. What do you do today? You don't have game till tomorrow. Yeah we hang out now. I might might go to falls in the range. We gotTA team meeting late this afternoon. So sky find stuff to do a black box with the teammates is. It's a before we started playing games out for sure. Go out and play before golf. Nubia Navy second one but we got back to back coming up medalla back. Lebron play golf. I don't think so I don't. We got a couple of guys on the team trying to get insult. Get into the game played with played with. Jr Lodger was really good. I know I know coups in jail goes told me they want to go to the reins worried. I'm worried about Javale McGee on the driving range. Alex you'll probably see it in the next give the pitch one more time for Taco Tuesday. Let people know about a Tuesday? So I'm doing the video. It'll be out on my socials later today in. It's just it's just a fun little Little Gab about me and small stars coming out. My Teammates Davis James. Are these replicas China's reputation it's just his fund video promo in the small stars campaign? Well congrats it's been fun. Ride here I'm sure for you. And Good Luck. The rest of the pandemic appreciate that. Were a lot of fun with it. It's a it's interesting but we're GonNa get the thank you Alex every stage out me on Alex crusoe the Lakers guard Taco Tuesday. I I would have run that by Lebron I think. Just just give them a heads up. Brian get a little territorial there. Yeah I don't know maybe it's the opposite. Maybe he's in business with Lebron because that's a that's a good place to be yeah. I could tell that he didn't like the Bald Eagle and the Bald Mamba. I don't think anybody wants to. He just turned twenty six. And of course we hold onto dear life with our hair and to be twenty six. And you're out there and you're losing your hair and people calling you. The Bald Eagle. The show is pretty good off the lake. Show Joey Bosa will join US coming up a little bit later on and Mike Tyson in an hour from now let me see Salmon Nebraska Sam. What's on your mind today? They have de got a bad connection. There Sam callback Tommy in Kentucky joins us. Hey Dan Hey Tommy well I just wanted to call and tell you thank you. Get the satellite off all that you make good. Yeah way back when I call on June eight. Now explain that when you called in. What was the story you told you did you get was that where the wife got rid of. Somebody's golf clubs. I'm assuming it was her husband's golf club worn it out of the House for. She didn't exactly explain why she warned them out of the house. I same in the husband did something they shouldn't have. I ended up getting of Calloway irons and wedges for fifteen dollars whenever I did ask her. Well why are you saying them so cheap? She immediately died. Into series of expletives on the radio thank you tie. Thank you golf balls. Hit Him Strength. Another little fun fact for you. Okay I was. I was actually on the course that day on the fifth hole whenever I called in and I told you W my story on the various scientist I. I'll never forget it June. By the time I made it around the par three on the seventeenth. I got my very first one so forever for me is. We'll go down as a great day. One dancing me some golf balls and two. I got my whole worn and they worked out. I got a case for my home and one ball and it was a crone off service ball. Just I don't want to stay. Here's has the DP logo awesome. Thank you Tommy and congratulations. Tommy knows how to tell the story there unlike rick in Hawaii last hour and then Mike Tyson eight the Double Caesar Salad and Champ said. Where's My red plate and then champ said I want it now? And that's when the war rick telling his story where he waited on. Mike Tyson thirty years ago. He's been waiting to tell that story for thirty years tough crowd. Yeah Workshop on the road. He should've said got to cut this down a little bit. Well anyhow make a long story short. I leaned over and said. Would you like some fresh cracked pepper on that salad? Boy The look me when you end the story that you meet Mike Tyson. He's with Arnold Schwarzenegger Stevie Nicks of fleetwood. 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Assume that you'll pick up the check No at least this dinner it was. I guess it was probably the last split. We're GONNA do a long time but if you and your brother go out who's picking up the check up. Probably make him. Because I know it's coming Saddam in the future so we'll go back and forth house this off season been it's been long you know Kind of weird thought uncertainty. It's will nerve wracking not known whether you're you're to get a season or not but I just been staying focused staying on my training and just felt like an extended offseason with the note with not as to break it up. It's you work out by yourself. Now Nick Nick Okay. Do you haze him? Do you beat him up. Like big brother does to a little brother for the those days are long. When was the last time the last time? Gosh allow while ago. Once the the size difference slimmed-down Gummer. So it's not like like the GRONKOWSKI's it feels like those guys are always you know? Hit each other in the groin and beating each other up wrestling and stuff like that. I think things things would get a little too serious at this point. How many teammates you stay in touch with your during the offseason. A decent amount Just check check out on how they're doing. Throw some texts out there They're all busy all busy doing their own thing. Spend time with their family. But let's just another doing well facetime a few guys pretty often. When can you explain how? Nfl players get paid. You get paid in the off season so it is it's break broken up in signing bonuses and Roster Bonuses than then obviously your game checks every week you know talking to my financial adviser you get a better answer to not try to to not censor that but Yeah it's it's paid out. Every I think two weeks very game check lets you pay taxes on whatever state you played in so let's hope it gets better every time you plan away again obviously in. California for new but have you ever gone to the ATM and just like just punched in the balancing courageous to look at it and go while for the fun of it? Not No not really I mean I. I'm pretty relaxed. Spender by like I mentioned. My financial adviser really likes me. The most Food so well sometimes ringing up the post made Chef so pretty much. What my biggest spending is is on food. What does have you been to the new stadium in? Not since it's been finished but I was there. I was there at the end of the season last year and it was pretty incredible. What will you miss about the old stadium that you played in last year? Not much to say the grass. I like buying on grass so preferrably rather than turf but you know only going to be very times of game so three times a year. So what was your reaction? When Philip rivers went to the Colt said I mean GonNa miss them his presence in our locker? I'm in such a great leaders. Obviously great talents but I think he looks. He didn't look too bad. When in that Jersey reveal the other day on I saw the Colts Element and cultures? Look National? Yeah he looked okay. You know all of his kids names. No no I'm not going to. I quizzed him on at one time. I think it took him a little longer than I thought it was going to their. I when you were miked up that game against the Patriots what did what did you say to Brady like. He has to frustrate you because he gets rid of the ball so quickly. You guys had a little bit of a conversation. It's just funny beaten guys and then you're getting back there in two seconds of the ball's already gone. These are not walking off the field so just had stopped in the ball so they dislike me on the bug. Stop giving here so fast. I won't have to. Do you ever get him that game. I don't believe so. What's the game prior? You keep a list of who you've gotten no no not really but I think we'll check in my head. Maybe can you ask for Jersey from a quarterback after a game this year old? We're not allowed to do. The Jersey Trades this year. So but yeah you could. You could ask anybody. I'll have him I I I am not the one usually asking. The trade Have a few state teammates to Alignment Chris. Long Traded Jerseys with action Gypsies Guys but at the end of the game the last thing I wanNA do squeeze out of that and I need about three people. That helped me was so. That's the main reason why don't I wondered? Why don't they just cut you out of THAT JERSEY? But have you ever used scissors? Jerseys road the other They'll probably charge me six hundred. Hey It's good to talk to you. Congratulations and if you were going to tell the. Nfl About Chase Young. What would you tell posing quarterbacks? What to expect? I think you've already seen with the last couple of Dan's can do so. So beware what's your brother. Do Better Than You. I think he's he econo- uses power a little bit better going to focus on trying to China. Without incorporate that ullmark game this year mole is trying to around guys and usefulness but. I think I need to use my power a little bit more or less juices allowing as just powering and slipping right off. When they're breaking down so I think definitely used to spend. Well you go back to that super bowl loss. What role did you play after? He lost that game. The niners lost that game just Just trying to support him and I wrote the team bus of him a now we got you. Okay yeah battery just up Yep you've got enough money to buy a good battery. Come on come on Joey. So you're on the niners team bus. I just wanted to spend time with them and time to about because I mean I wanted a memo. How will he did and how I mean? He couldn't have done more to help the team win there And they have a great team that could be back next year but it took him a while to this day a time highlight on TV. Or anything I'm like that. Get shot but it was just a big group. Hug Our whole family after the game. Volunteers or it was just so close. We've so the Jill you go back to that third down pass from Mahomes tyreek hill in your brother gets there a split executive that changed the game if he's if he hits? Mahomes they don't complete that sorry to bring up but no no I mean he lose. It's true and it's tough but I mean looking back at that game. He really at believable game. I'll get a much mark. Thank at the end of the game. The lions can get a little lazy like ours does with the guy like mahomes you let them out of the pocket once he's GonNa on a Chabad so and I mean that happened a go. Buy Yourself something. I something suggestions are. You're watching guy. I bought a watch once. I got drafted and I hardly so. How about a photo? I think I'm going to get the Florida. I don't know Ma well. Here's the thing. Though Joey. The best two days are the day you buy it and the day you sell. It suggested to get a membership with the boat club. Then that's what you should do. Yes yeah do that or maybe just get like a kayaker something to start with you one step at a time. I'll get a little thing. Yeah congratulations and thanks for joining us. Great to talk to you. Thanks for having me okay. That's Joey Bosa. He's now the highest paid defensive player in the NFL five year extension worth one thirty five. You feel obligated to buy something right after you sign a. I don't think you want to buy a boat when you have more money than you should. When you're supposed to buy vote right. He's got silly money now. I know but I would only want a boat. If somebody would be my captain if I could have somebody pilot the boat. If I could have a chef and I could have somebody skipper then I would. I would love to have a boat but I don't WanNa boat I like. I like looking at the water. I don't like being on the water or in the water really no. You don't like being on the water. I like being near the water. Yeah but not like on a boat. No no no. Don't need that. Don't you think it would be so awesome? Like sail across the Atlantic Ocean or something if I won the lottery. That's what I would do. Well like Jerry Jones Yacht that would be fun or if it was a yacht that had a helipad like that kind of and then sail across the ocean. How awesome would that be yeah? It's like a floating hotel. Yeah that would be so sick. It would be awesome. I'd be all in favor. Yeah I've seen some of those shots they basically do everything you can to make you as far away from the water as possible. They built a house with windows. And nobody's outside everyone's in Cabana rooms. But I don't WanNa have a just a small boat about big sail boat with a sail. It and Anna Chef I want to get to some. I'm not one that just goes. Let's just sail. I could see though if I was the captain of that ship and was like sailing. And then you get out somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic. I might have a panic attack at some point. You're just looking around there. He just see clouds. That could that might me out a little bit. That's where you need the heliport where I can get off this thing. Yes I've seen enough movies. That never ends. Well there's always always a threat a squall right around the school. How about what are those guys who sails around like to do the challenge like alone? You know no no. That's a lasting. I know that there's no no Oh Salmon Nebraska called back. Hey Sam got a better connection. Yeah sorry about that Dan. I was actually in Iowa earlier. I'm back in home where civilised civilizations that I have an NBA question for you So it's probably safe to say like Lebron the last decade of hoops. Maybe maybe you could say look. That's to Kevin durant three. Maybe who knows but I was wondering who who you would think is going to own. This decade You said you're not really going to tune in to tonight. Jaanus on like a random night must be but I was wondering who do you think is it GONNA be like. Jaanus Muka Xilai on someone else. I was just wondering your thoughts on that all right. Well thank you SAM. Thanks for calling. I can glide your bank in Omaha. The Greek freak is spectacular. But I don't know if he's he's tune-in factor worthy if he leaves Milwaukee and ends up If the Knicks or the Lakers or something like that then he might be more of a tune-in factor. Were the player but it comes down to. Zion is always going to be there as long as he's explosive than having you know dunks Luca is going to be a tune-in factor for variety of reasons Trae young might be there. You have the older guard there with Steph Curry. Who's still if Steph Curry's playing I'm watching Katie is kind there. He's not exciting. I mean nobody hits the eighteen foot jumper like Katie. Does who else somebody. Demar to Rosen is holding on for dear life with the mid range jumper. There's going to be photographs like us from now where you're going to have somebody shooting mid range jumper and people are going to go. What's that like? People took mid-range Jumpers back. Then yeah yeah they did. Do you. Think the Spurs saw. Marta rose inside. He's he plays in Canada. Here's a mid range. Nondescript game he doesn't dunk a lot he's not really a talker. We gotta go out and get that guy. Yes that's our guy the mid range jumper but Katie Katie. And there is. You can take advantage of defenses because it feels like it's either inside all the way inside or three point and you have all this space there to play with with the mid range jumper. Demar Derozan doesn't shoot threes. He shoots less than one a game. But Katie is not tune-in factor. I think Kyrie had a window where he was really interesting to watch. But am I missing anybody here that you look at and go boy? That's tune in factor worthy trae. Young a better team would certainly help. I find him a whole lot of fun to watch glove in two years. It'll be this decade of Mani Bates. Nba that guy who decided to go pro the other day like two weeks ago we were talking about the number one recruit his highlights or create. We like youth potential. Like what's next and I just don't know with the basketball player in size and ability to be able to shoot and and so you're seeing when somebody's seven feet tall and they're shooting three pointers that you would think the concept is not smart basketball because you want the seven footer underneath the hoop but basketball just been turned upside down and I don't know I feel like somebody is going to counter attack the wave of three point shots and that is you're going to have a big big man lineup and you're going to have to guard those guys now. The rockets are still gonNA shoot fifty or sixty. Three's again because they're going to do the math on if we make twenty. We're going to do the math on if we were making two pointers as opposed to three pointers. And that's what the rockets are all about. But not everybody can shoot well and I think that that's the misconception. You Watch. Aau Games now. You Watch pickup games now. Everybody thinks that they are a three point shooter. And they're not obviously I mean Steph. Curry changed the game. Because you don't have to be big you don't have to be physically imposing don't have to be able to jump high if you can get your shot off from three point range deep everybody in their minds like you know. I can identify with him. And that's not the case. He just makes it look easy all right. We'll take a break here. More phone calls coming up and Mike Tyson in about a half hour from now here on the Dan. Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to the Dan. Patrick Show podcast be sure to catch. 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And you gotta be very diligent in policing this and teams policing this and players policing one. Another Keith in Virginia joining say Keith. What do you have for me today? Hey but but I always wanted to do that. I I just WanNa offer a comment real quick about Players to tune in four. I personally I would watch Kevin Durant for the person to see someone. Seven feet tall is able to put the ball on the floor and shoot from anywhere on the court and also You know he has a little controversy with him throughout his career so to me it just makes it feel like that you know he's tuning word. They a lot of these. I feel like a lot of NBA players. They don't have any you know possess or anything that makes me want to like you say early. Deter the tune into them but like Kevin Durant Steph Curry Lebron. I feel a little players that you know over the years. They had a little controversial out off the court. That makes you know interesting. You say I wanNa Watch and see what's going on with this guy next and plus we like winners you know. Fans like winners and For guys who can do all this stuff and don't win you know it. It kinda makes it like you say early. You know you don't want to tune in for it so thanks a lot man all right. Thank you Keith. Durant with Kyri could be interesting. I was more of a tune into Russell. Westbrook and Oklahoma City. And you know even in Houston not as much now James Harden is a tune in player. But I'm talking about younger players because you know what is hardened. See thirty somewhere around there. Kevin Durant at his age. Lebron is still there's a tune-in factor for Lebron. But that's just because I've always been a fan of just watching him his basketball. Iq He's playing for the Lakers. You know he's playing in big games and just the historical prospects of what you're seeing with. Lebron yes mclovin. You can't Russell Westbrook credit for bringing back the mid range now. Wow so he's play. He's leading team right. He's playing unbelievable. But yeah but what's going to happen in the playoffs? They're just going to make him shoot. Mid-range Jumpers last night. The Lakers made forty one field. Goals Twenty nine of those were in the paint. Nine of them were three pointers. Three mid range jumpers. That's it and you know the the game evolves in different styles. It used to be. If you watched the Portland Trailblazers Seventies as fine a team basketball as I've ever seen the extra pass. They just played smart basketball. It wasn't a individually talented team yet. Bill Walton and Maurice Lucas Lionel. Hollins Johnny Davis Bobby. Gross Larry Steele. You didn't have great. You know all the big names. Mo- Lucas was a great player. But in Walton was an all time player near a hall of fame coach and Jack Ramsay but just passing the ball making the extra pass. Go back to the Knicks. Back in nineteen seventy the extra pass. Then you had the two men game in Stockton and Malone did a pick and roll for almost twenty years and nobody ever stopped it now. We're going to everybody's shooting a three pointer. It something else will happen on. The game will change. I don't win and what it will look like but it will. Change Harden will be thirty one coming up this month the end of the month. You'll be thirty one skipping Texas will join US hi skip. How are you may skip first of all two quick things I GOTTA? Throw Marvin under the bus. I mean that's ridiculous and take a call from Hawaii three. Am what did he think he was going to get? I used to live in Maui for six years and I'm telling you the only time I heard this show live. I was matched so that was ridiculous. Take that call and then secondly I get my name's skip as skipper twenty five years I I Ran powerboats and High-speed series on San Francisco. A love the water. All right. Well thank you skip may hire skip by win. The lottery can be my captain already. 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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: Off Day Debrief loves the Chargers after MNF

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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: Off Day Debrief loves the Chargers after MNF

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Let's talk about Monday night football because it was chargers it was Saints Really Entertaining Game The Saints Ultimately Get the Win Thirty to twenty seven in overtime. There's a lot to get into this game. Let's go for a look at it from the saints point of view. I know Michael Thomas in this game because he's essentially suspended for punching team-mate in the face, which is incredible and I had been really down on the Saints Offense Without Michael Thomas I was not. Impressed with drew brees they're all he wasn't throwing the ball deep down the field. I just didn't like what I saw from them but last night they looked a lot different I was very impressed with the saints offense. She'll go the other way round I. I still don't think I'm very encouraged by drew brees I think it's a common theme maybe even from this week alone in the NFL that you have these older quarterbacks, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, and we'll get to some of those later and drew brees and these guys are starting to show their age now obviously, he did enough but the team back in position to win the game but this is a lost that game. Necessarily about the end they that's a game they should have one more comfortably. You know if the saints were truly for real now, of course, there's there's some good position here. There are three into I'd said earlier in the year when you kinda ask me like how much are you concerned about the saints? Do you think they're still going to win the NFC South? Yeah. They're in that mix that I. Mean I don't feel as great as this team still as I did heading into the season still don't think they're this really legit super bowl contender because I don't think juries is really GonNa get better as the season that's going on goes on. That's not something we've seen usually gets worse than his arm starts to fade even later in the year and and to me that we're seeing that noodle arm again. So, here's my here's my thing. I because I know that we're GonNa talk about the forty niners and I know you're going to hammer me because I said said that they were the second best team in the NFC which clearly I was wrong about. I think that I screwed up I have been grading these teams on style points in pass fail business and I agree that the saints have some warts but I think all the teams have some more essentially and I'm I'M I'M GONNA. Stop grading them on how good they look and just start grading them on whether or not they get the job done like, yeah. The saints can't do everything on offense drew brees is not going to be bombing it down the field like mahomes but what they do do well or what they do do they do it well, so I have to give them credit for that. They got the win, they beat the chargers team that is no pushover I know there early in their development, but the charters are a good team and They can't do everything but they have strengths and they maximize those he I left this game feeling better about the chargers though honestly just because of the dental and the promise we're seeing from Justin herber throw he made I mean. Four touchdowns last night zero interceptions, and really he just got screwed over by kicker 'cause kicker misses the extra point early in the game via makes that you know it's not a game at the end. They don't need cake for overtime. And again, obviously the field goal at the end of the game. Fifty yarder that herber gets them in great position to kick because he throws that great past Mike Williams down the sideline and Mike claims mosses. Marshon lattimore over here. I love that by the way, there's nothing better to me as someone here's another eagles reference freeze stats, but the counter on we should have accounted for this I. Just Love Terrell Owens like when he came to Philly and just love the idea that this guy can be blanketed by like multiple players doesn't matter just throw the ball high and and he can make a play on it and I love to see that mercy that was awesome by Mike Williams to set up that go in. I. Feel like we all knew that was going to be missed when Michael badly or so they say Michael Badly said he calls himself the what was it nickname here? The Money Badger? No that is not. You cannot make up the name for yourself first of all sorry, that's and then also Make stats. Up Stats. I'm kidding I know. I know you didn't know the story I know the story are you make up your nickname care either like? It's really bad and so that's the charges should have won that game now they didn't, and they also didn't deserve to win it in a sense that they're conservative like trout. Hey, about maybe trust your rookie quarterback is really good Anthony Lynn like they were so conservative with the game plan. Eighteen Russia's for twenty yards on first down. So they're shooting themselves in the foot when the run clearly isn't working and they're making it harder on their quarterback instead of making life easy for hey, he's really good about maybe throw the ball on first down. What are we saying this show? Do the thing. The thing that works right what works is Justin Herbert and it like you were talking about with Mike Williams, it works well, because Herbert does not seem afraid to throw the ball down the field and that matches up with William Strength, which is contested catches going up and getting the ball it's worked well for them. To me, this season is already a success for the chargers because you know you found a guy, you have a quarterback that has arm talent that has a willingness to be aggressive with the football like you found your guy. That's awesome. So however, many games you win this year is great but just for overall kind of team building perspective I feel like the chargers are in a great spot you've got your quarterback, you've got a young wide receiver. Number three, you've got your pass rusher, you have Joey Bosa you just locked him up, bet is huge. The hardest parts get on your team you have already now it's just filling in around him when a new you can use free agency you can use the draft, you can supplement what you already have. I think the chargers are in a great spot honestly the only thing I don't like about the chargers that play the chiefs twice a year. That stuff and although they did hang onto overtime earlier in the year with her breaking his first NFL start like. Basically. Notice. So at least there's that. Yeah I guess it's kind of just like do we trust answer Lynn here to be the right guy you know if if we're gonNA see this kind of conservative play calling if the team is going to need to be poor I think the talent there's good. I think. They're general manager. It's Kinda underrated Tom Toms let's go here I. Think he does a good job with that team. Yeah. So I I agree with you. It's kind of weird to say because they lost three, one four they're they're kind of out of it but I just feel very encouraged by the chargers. I have the nineteenth power rankings and they have had their then there for a couple of weeks. Now because they've been losing like being encouraged by the way, they're actually playing these. Games, they're just not finishing, which is a chargers result, but you know the they actually have hope for the future now with some of these young guys. Yeah. I agree with your criticism of Anthony Len he doesn't blow me away by any stretch they to me he's like totally average. NFL coach, they could do worse than Anthony Lynn but I think they could do better. If you look at the chargers history, it is weird. They almost always have a franchise quarterback, but they don't win super bowls. It's it's super weird like Dan fouts awesome quarterback, right? No super bowls. They had drew brees for a little while the had filled rivers for a little while adamant back to back with those guys like they never really have a horrible quarterback for an extended period of time. But they also don't win Super Bowl. It's like the only team that can say. Maybe Herbert will finally be the guy or maybe he'll just be the next one in line of this guy who's there for like years it's crazy to think along rivers. Is there I mean he was there for like fifteen years or more a longtime and the crazy to have that kind of. Longevity when you're not winning the big one given all the pressure, there is to know to have success. And I know everyone has said this but I have to say like imagine watching Justin Herbert and practice and tyrod Taylor. In practice and thinking we're GonNa go with Toronto Taylor like he's a better. He gives us a better chance to win in what Universe is that possible? And then also where the team is timeline, wise like are they what are they gonNa really do even if Taylor might be slightly better in theory than than Herbert if that was your thinking heading into the like what are you going with that? Like you're not GonNa win your division you know that So, why not the Guy Anyway and especially be showing this much promise. So. Yeah I, think they have a good one Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert's interesting because every year we get these guys on a draft twitter column out draft witter here that like they hate these quarterbacks, they're starting quarterbacks they hate like Josh Allen Even Carson Wentz. And they just like there's this opinion out there like that these guys are GonNa be terrible they. There's no chance to succeed. They're going to be overdrafted. GonNa Bust and they come in and it's like, wow, they can actually play the jump. So I think that's kind of funny. How those kind of players come in every year in end up being a little bit better than some of the scouting community expects them to be. And I have to say I was nervous about Herbert. When I was producing pro football talk, which is you go eagles references, I go pf t references apparently but we talked to Herbert at the combine and he did not strike me as a very assertive guy as a as a guy who could lead a huddle. He was very sort of quiet and didn't really seem like a leader. We asked him who his favourite like who do you admire who's the quarterback you WanNa be like do you know who he said? No Joey Harrington once. Because he'd never left Oregon. He said Joey Harrington and everybody on the set and everybody in the control room. Let out an audible noise like. Your Guy. Joey Harrington. So I was just like I don't know about this guy. This guy doesn't seem like the man but I mean on the field he's throwing darts all over the place. He's that West. coast. Cool. Tim I think is what you might. Maybe that's maybe I'm perceiving it as where he doesn't seem to be rattled he's pretty composed and so maybe he's not the most Alpha guy but sometimes it's fine. Make. Sure you don't miss our next conversation by subscribing to the SBA. NFL show wherever you get your podcasts.

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HOUR 1 080420

The Dan Patrick Show

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HOUR 1 080420

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Sit down to chat with the cultural innovators in magnates shaping our future from the CO founder of the Black Lives Matter Movement to the former CEO of twitter join US each week as we discussed, the insights and critical advice shaped all of their lives listen to the art of the Hustle on the iheartradio, APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on. Fox Sports. Radio. Welcome to the program. It's hour. One is Tuesday Dan, and the Danettes Dan Patrick. Show. Mike Tyson joins us a little bit later on the chargers defensive in Joey Bosa, the Lakers guard, Alex Caruso and you can join us as well. You can email tweet dial up Marvin there to answer your calls say good morning to chat row tyler the moderator. You can watch on YouTube dot com slash the Dan Patrick show and of course, radio affiliates numbering three, hundred and sixty two around the country. A season on the brink was a popular book on Basketball Coach Bobby Knight. It was written by John Feinstein, but it would probably be the perfect title for the twenty. Twenty baseball season. This is truly a season on the brink. Things feel really shaky now yet the marlins covert outbreak last week the cardinal stepped up this week there the story, their series against the Tigers postponed because thirteen members of the organization tested positive. I love the baseball's back and the league should be in great shape with the Yankees and dodgers looking like they're the two best teams in their respective leagues but two weeks in. It's hard to enjoy it because it feels like this is. Not Day to day, it's our to our where you're just not quite sure I. Don't know how close the Commissioner was to shutting down baseball after what happened to the Marlins and now with the cardinals and maybe you know those are the two hiccups here I said at the time when the marlins happened maybe that's your hiccup and baseball will learn from it. The players will learn from it and then you have the cardinals situation. Now you can argue although it's a moot point that baseball should've tried to establish a bubble like the NBA NHL. Nothing you can do about it now. And you just have to limit your exposure and hold everyone to a high level of accountability Derek. JETER. Is the CEO of the Marlins and he at a press conference yesterday where he talked about his players who tested positive he wanted to make sure that people understood what was fact and what was fiction. And our review was determined. We guys lead to get coughing to get close guy left to have dinner at teammates house. There were no other guests onsite. There's no salacious activity. There's no hanging out at bars clubs running around lab. No running around the town boil down to Miss Jacobs was guys were around each other they got relaxed in their let their guard down they were getting together in groups. They weren't wearing masks as much as they should have been warned social distancing everyone was getting went the whole spring training two point on on thousand in the entire traveling doing that not. That address What's been addressed with the Marlins and then you had the cardinals and then there were reports that they were going out to a casino and then their series shut down with the Tigers and it goes back to what I said when the MARLINS had their covert outbreak, you're not to have teams play sixty games not everybody's playing sixty games. It's going to be based off winning percentage if you're going to get into the playoffs but understand this. Baseball from what I'm told, they don't care about the regular season they're gonna go limping crawling, scratching into the postseason because now we've gone from ten to sixteen teams in the playoffs and that's where the money is. They're using sixty as a hey, we're gonNA kind have season here. We're going to have everybody ease in get in shape and then we'll have postseason. It'll be a hell of a postseason. We're GONNA have sixteen teams in their. Bottom line is that's where the money is. You do have this. Cove outbreak that you had with the Marlins and you have with the cardinals and what that does to the other teams as well who were going to have games with them? How do you make them up member the seven inning if you're GONNA do double header, you have two games that are seven innings I threw that out. Somebody told me is, Hey, you might keep an eye on this. The next day baseball goes up and we're. GonNa to have doubleheaders and they're going to be seven innings I was joking about it. It just feels like this is. Very reactionary with baseball. It's just not well thought out. The only thing that's thought out is sixteen teams get to the postseason. Let's hold on for dear life we get to the postseason, make our money, and then we'll try to regroup next year. That's the feeling that I get with the way this is being handled right now this program is brought to you by these great wireless ear buds. The way to go there called Rake on Ari y con get fifteen percent off your rake on by RECON. Dot Com Slash Patrick that's by RECON DOT com slash Patrick also looking at the offensive numbers in Major League Baseball Here's some numbers that jumped out at me. The baseball batting average right now, all teams combine his to thirty three. All Time, the lowest in any full season nineteen, sixty eight. That's when they raise the pitcher's mound that was to thirty seven and that's when he had denny maclaine winning thirty games. Bob Gibson had the famous one point one to Yarra. And keep this in mind. We don't have pitchers hitting this year. This should be a great year for hitting. Batting average should be a whole lot higher but instead it's lowered the home run rate is down from last year, but it's still the third highest. All Time strikeout rate is the highest it's ever been. Twenty four percent of all plate appearances result in a strikeout. That would suggest a geyser swinging for home runs more than ever. Of the strangers stats as well. The Colorado rockies had the second lowest era among starting pitching staffs. So you're GONNA have a lot of anomalies aberrations here with this sixty game season, and we've already seen some of that so far. But hopefully. Cardinals and Marlins in that sends the warning to everybody else around Major League baseball it just feels like they're holding on for dear life. Holding your breath that you're gonNA make it through the regular season here but I do think the commissioner is. If, we have another one of these. I don't know if baseball can survive it. Because you're gonNA, make a total mockery of the regular season, and maybe we already have but to try to get fifty games. is going to forty five. Is it going to be winning percentage And from what I was told yesterday by a source baseball doesn't care. They just want to get through this. They just want to get to the post season 'cause because he heard me yesterday and I'm going well, you can't do this. Everybody's not playing sixty games it's not a level playing field and. Sent me a text after the show goes baseball. Paul didn't care about the regular season. They just give a sixteen teams make sure the dodgers and Yankees are in we're fine. Now, I don't know if that's what the commissioner said, but that was what my source said. Baseball doesn't care about the regular season. Hey you play fifty, four games you played fifty eight you played forty-seven. What's your winning percentage? I'm the MARLINS. Just, say play anymore I. Think they are a two and one. They qualify for the postseason right now. mclovin do you have a poll question for me today by the way it's interesting guest list. So Mike Tyson's going to fight again Tyson will join us in the final hour. He's also involved in Shark, week? He's fighting a shark now I think. I gotta ask him I have no idea in Tyson's going to join via zoom. So that'll be entertaining Joey Bosa. The chargers defense been just signed that record breaking deal Alex Caruso, the Lakers Lakers beat the jazz last night. So they secured the number one seed in the West. I. Mentioned This I. Think Monday. And I was wondering is that a positive? Maybe it was last Friday is it a good thing that the Lakers are going to be the number one seed? Because you're GONNA have probably less time to prepare for your opening round opponent than anybody else because you have all these teams jockeying for that eighth seed. ARE THEY PLAYING MEMPHIS is new? Orleans. Is Portland going to be there is somebody dropping down that we don't know about. You're not going to be able to prepare. Now you might say, well, come on, you should be able to put away those teams Portland Portland there. Portland will be a difficult out I. Think for the Lakers. But they had the number one seed in the West there's no homecourt advantage though all you get is, hey, we're the number one seed in the West, and then you're consolation prize is going to be somebody that how prepared or you're going to be to face them in the opening round. But. Watching last night when they beat the Utah Jazz Anthony, Davis played great and. Put up some big numbers there and beating. Utah so they're the number one seed Caruso will join US coming up a little bit later on rockets trailblazers coming up tonight that is spicy. The NFL sets the OPT out deadline that'll be on Thursday now, this has been going back and forth, but it feels like every week, the NFL and the NFL players association is signing a new contract. Or there's an addendum to a contract and now your deadline if you don't. WanNa, play this season. is going to be Thursday. We've yet to see that marquee name say I'm not going to play. Now the Patriots have quite a few players obviously, that will hurt their depth if an offensive lineman or defensive linemen bows out nobody's really noticing. But if you have a wide receiver running back quarterback who decides not to then that'll get headlines but Dante hightower not playing for the Patriots. That's a big deal. Now. He's not a marquee name, but that's a big deal. And I think if. Pro Football is able to get past Thursday and you don't have any more key names. They'll feel pretty fortunate I think like they dodged a bullet here mclovin what do you have for me today? So how big is the Astros for twenty twenty, major league baseball season big huge show overwhelming shouldn't even go through the world series and I'm speaking as a phillies fan because the marlins screwed their season and they finally get back in there to play Garrett Cole last night. How is this fair? If the Phillies win, the world series, is there an asterisk? Not Exactly. Not, happy by that's probably not going to happen, but it feels like the competitive balance is really moving a I think your best teams are still going to be your best teams but. I mean. It's unfortunate that you're not going to have a true even a true sixty game schedule like. We had problems it was sixty games and then all of a sudden it's like. I'll take fifty. I'll take forty. Because that's baseball's mentality and I'm not. I'M NOT GONNA be a stickler for details this entire season. Sports has an asterisk attached to it for twenty. Twenty. Not, just baseball so. I don't like it but I have no other option here. Who Am I complaining to? mclovin I'm going to respectfully disagree. I think the NBA does not have an asterik competitions. Amazing. It's even better than it was were they got boards has an Asterisk, right but the entire season of how we've had to adapt the players in a bubble all of those things it's not a negative that there's an asterisk there it's just. You know make sure you remember what this was all about fifty years from now. People are gonNA. Go wait what happened in sports. Way. Basketball went into a bubble. Like we're that's what I'm saying there's an asterisk because we've never seen anything like this and it just denotes. A CRAZY SEASON I I've said before if the Lakers title this year. That counts as a title. And you don't have home court advantage it's even tougher to do what they're doing or if the bucks win it. And if you win the baseball season okay. If you're playing less games than somebody else. Are we going to go I mean. It's not going to be an asterisk like the Astros had. But I think we're going to look at it and say, maybe not legitimate. Maybe a little less. Yes mclovin. But wouldn't it be fair to put NBA MLB into two different categories like you can't put an asterisk that totally different feel like the non bobble sports are so different than all the NBA doing everything right and they're they're definitely not natural. It's the basketball we've seen but mclovin I'm not attaching it to the NBA season but MLB does get. Yes. They do because we don't even know if they're gonNA finish. How about we do how about we wait until everybody's done how about can we finish twenty twenty mclovin? Can you allow me to do then I've just mad about the phillies but good luck with that the quality of NBA play. I'M NOT GONNA complain. I got I'm fine with it at guys. Don't look like they're in great shape. Zion doesn't look like he's in great shape at all but he was impactful last night and I can't help. But think back to the game against Utah when they opened up the season if you're on a minute restriction, use him in a situation where he's going to be more valuable. And three minutes, four minutes, five minutes, three minutes, and then you lose the game a close game to Utah Jazz you could be to in one right now and you beat Memphis last night. That's how that's who you have to beat. and. Zion looked really good last night. As far as the numbers, he doesn't look in shape and that's the only thing that worries me is now you go. Hey. We gotta have him out there. It looked okay. Play Twenty, five minutes. If you're if you're GONNA have a minute restriction than stay with the minutes restriction. I'm fine with that. But I don't want I don't want the coaching staff or Front, Office go. Put Him out there as plan well, keep him out there. Still can't go from fifteen to twenty five that seems like a pretty good jump there but they did get to win last night a much needed win and putting a little bit more pressure on Memphis Yeah Paulie. I guess I. I don't get Pearl off saying is he saying that the quality of play in basketball is better than the quality of play in? MLB. Yes overall. Yes. Now Basketball NBA The scoring way up that means nobody's playing defense. No, they're shooting. They're all in their little homecourt. They are all shooting the lights out there playing. Great. Yeah but there's no defense being played here I think I think I think they're very comfortable in this little court and they were playing excellent excellent offense I don't think it's just black defense. The baseball players are in their home parks and the baseball players. There's no competitive balance because teams you're getting all screwed up by this corona virus, they're all over the. GotTa sit out a we imagine that there was a series of rainouts in baseball. You can say the League is tainted if there are three days of rain outs for the mets and they didn't play for three days a week later, which are going to do that doesn't mean the League is tainted the level of plays even the playing field is even baseball it's even in the NBA. NBA is not having the troubles, but the quality of play I don't think differs between the two sports. There's no way you could say the Phillies, marlins cardinals have the same chance that the teams that are playing regularly they. Be disrupted right. The NBA removed teams from having a chance. You know they they removed teams from even being factoring into play. They removed teams from the season doesn't put an asterisk on this said that all the teams are being present playing in the NBA. Little quiet you I know I mean obviously, the teams are there out of the playoffs I know they're out of the playoffs, but this is still the regular season MLB. Didn't say you know what? The rockies weren't that good last year. So let's leave him off the sixty game. Ron, let's let's take the phillies out because they've sucked the past five years. Let's let's take them on. What are we? What are we arguing here like I got? No, but we got caught up on the asterisk with the NBA and I said it's not with the NBA. It's the entire season because this is unique will never have a season like this the equality of baseball they just started. The quality can't be as good as the NBA right now because baseball is so in state of flocks that you don't have teams we're not playing at you know we had A. series that was scheduled, and now it's postponed and then we don't even know marlins aren't gonNA play till Tuesday. Aren't they going to put out a minor league team to they're they're not going to be a real team? Aren't they having all their backups probably so? But baseball. The quality of play is not going to be on par with any of these other sports with hockey. You know football football comes back I. don't see that because games have been postponed teams have been decimated teams have been decimated here. And plus look at all the injuries that you have with pitchers. You know the braves just lost. Their star Pitcher Mica Sirocco. I mean that guy. He's great and they've lost him for the year with the Achilles injury but. It's you know baseball is going to be on. The just odd that there's no consistency there and. You know watching last night with the Yankees. Garrick they should just give Garrett Cole the Cy Young. He might be seven Oh and be the CY young winner. But yeah, it's it's just going to be that it's a strange season but quality of play I'm not getting caught up on quality of play I. Think eventually we'll get there and when the game's really mean something because these are regular season games with the NBA Regular Season Games with baseball once you get to the postseason, I think you'll see a different competitiveness that intensity there. So I'm not GonNa Complain Not GonNa Complain will come back we to come up with a poll question. I'll let you. Yes. mclovin Fund Mike Tyson poll question to get off this not fun debate. Let you in Pauley go back and forth during the commercial break there and what happened. All right. We'll take a break. We'll come back Tyson's in the final hour of the show, and we'll settle on a poll question got a couple of stats day. It's twenty after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. 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Already this might not seem like big news, but it is it will be big news coming up next year at the NFL draft, the University of Minnesota Wide Receiver Rashad Bateman announced that he is foregoing his final year of eligibility at Minnesota to focus on prepping for the twenty twenty one nfl draft. Let me refresh your memory on this kid third team all American last year first team. All Big ten big ten receiver of the year considered a first round draft pick. Now, you've got a couple of players here. Alabama's got to players. devante Smith and Jalen Waddell who are going to be first round picks Rashad Bateman. Justin Ross Clemson got injured. You got jomar chase at Lsu. This has the makings of being a great and we just had a great receiving draft this past year. But. MINNESOTA. Hasn't had I don't know the last time or how many first round draft picks they've had. But Rashad Bateman is the real deal and he's decided he's not gonNA play this year and he's going to prepare for the draft. All right mclovin poll question we're going to go with. That's an interesting question. If you're a top NFL president, say even a quarterback would you play this year? Would you just shut it down for the draft? If you think you're already graded first round. I just need I. Don't know what's going to happen. and. There's part of me that would say you know you're with your team so you play. But if I'm getting advice from somebody saying there's no reason to go out there and play. and. I think you're going to see a few more players do this I don't know if this is going to be you know we're going to open the doors in it's going to be a tidal wave here but now he can signed with an agent you can start to work out. And he's going to get paid. I'd have to know a little bit more where we're going with this if I want to risk this but. I think you're gonNA find some players who are just gonNA. Say This isn't worth at year. Yes mclovin. Is a little like the bowl game thing like Nick Bosa sitting out or Christian McCaffrey might be. Might, be I I was thinking the opposite remember four years ago we were in a tizzy when Christian. McCaffrey skipped a Sun Bowl, an exhibition event just to to be ready for the draft. Now, we have players leaving before the season starts and Nick Bosa left. Halfway through the season I had no problem with Christian McCaffrey sitting out a bowl game because it was a meaningless bowl game at that position as a running back. You only have so many carries in you and I had no problem with that whatsoever Yama Club. A by whatever you're ready, we have a series of random polls including a Mike Tyson one that got this side of the glass arguing big time. Is it going to upset Mike? We're not. We are not allowing you to even bring it up to Mike because if he ever got a hold of it could end up happening and we don't want that. Okay. This is all todd has been doing today is his Mike Tyson impersonation I said. I'd prefer you didn't do it too much here. I don't know if I were to come with you really tough interview the pussycat interview they ask like the easy questions about talking about you. Talk about my fighting career and why people feel okay. What do you have clubs? So we were debating, would you take a punch for Mike Tyson for a million dollars and three of the four immediately said no once at yes. Where is the punch? He gets punched wherever? What what if I just sat him me in the arm? No it choice he can. Yeah, you can't control you can't. You can't say where to punch you. Well, I could say to Mike Mike I'm going to split a million with you. I'll give you five hundred thousand hit me in the arm. Let's say you can't do that for the rules. Okay. All right. I found a loophole here. No, he might take that. But he he gets a punch you and he wants to prove something. He's GonNa. Treat you like Marvis frazier would I take a punch from Tyson for million and he's got boxing gloves on August boxing gloves. The normal kind, not the sixteen inch. Twelve inch. Whatever? That's. Six, hundred of those. Big Ones I I would be fine with that but I'm changing my answer now. Can you guess which would said yes. Yeah Paulie definitely. The apple absolutely a million bucks. He's GonNa hit you. He's going to knock you unconscious. You really won't feel the pain of just be a blackout a couple of hours Lee. He will wake up and you go boat shop and I mean, yeah, you're going to have a broken orbital bone or Your damaged hearing damage permanent but million dollars for zero work and being knocked unconscious. I've been knocked unconscious before by punch and it sucks. But there's nothing on the other side of it. Yes. Tom What if you don't wake up a few hours and he can't just you in a certain party to skull where he kills your your in some kind of coma for a long time I don't know how great that million dollars is at that point Fred vegetables state. Police wife knows the risk and she's fine signing off on crm said go for it. Yeah He. Said, you don't have to get any money going there she's. Yes mclovin. Are we what are the tax implications? Is this a million tax free state tax going out of Florida you down to Florida to get punched? Would you do it in the state of Florida mclovin. I'm not doing it all. Oh, probably just said Oh. Yeah. You lose your hearing forever Polish only got one good I by the way. And I didn't get a million for that. It didn't really bother me but you're not going to tell Tyson which ones your bad I because you don't want him to hit you in the good I I got a fifty fifty. Yeah. Seton. No No. There's. There's I would do a lot of things for a million dollars but I don't know that that's one of them actually. Now, I wouldn't do it. Because Tyson always talked about hitting somebody in the nose in driving it up into your skull. Now Not I'm good. I'm not going to get my boat. I'm good with that. I I would. I'd rather be able to not have a boat and just have a normal life than to have a boat and me. Hey. Hey got a nice bump. How'd you get it? Wrong. No nobody cares you mumbling over the waves? Just hit those horns all. What happened to? Oh. I didn't realize that's. GOING TO SCRAMBLE YOU YEAH That's how Paul is going to sound. Good Tyson to hit him a Paulie What we have on the rundown today well, wrong. It's like after twelve years of Paul challenging people to wrestle and tackle and all this is the one that only goes wrong. Club. The next logical question in a poll done before off Tyson would you face chat to for a million dollars a big face to? Remember when Mike did it and we went, oh my God what's happened to Mike and now look at the number of people who do face tattoos. I saw where Cindy Crawford Son has a tattoo under his I. I think it's I misunderstood he put misunderstood under his I. Post Malone with all the tattoos he's got on his fate. Yeah. He's going big. That's I. Love seeing the updates on his tattoos because he's like I just love to know the process of where he's like I needed this big battleaxe. Or whatever he's got, you know like, yeah, what what was the decision there? There probably wasn't. What happens is always know what you want before you go into a tattoo parlor because if you go in there and start looking through books, you're GonNa end up with something you're probably going to regret. I'm not saying I'm just saying. Hey No I need this towed sitting under mushroom. Need has perfect. Yes cl-. Actually show you reaching up for some male the other day I saw a little butterfly they're. Back. Very Pretty. Yeah thank you. Thank you. Used to be you got tattoos but you would hide them not anymore. Like. How could cindy? Crawford And Randy Gerber. Who I think is probably a billionaire by now or something like that. He wanted a busy with George Clooney with that Tequila and their son is misunderstood. Misunderstood, but you don't have to put on your face is faced. Should say my mom's hot. Misunderstood. Yes mclovin. Can I really serious poll question Oh. Oh, we're going to get serious. Okay. The question everyone's asking today. Okay I'm GonNa give you one junior who's playing well in the bubble of start your team Michael Porter June twenty to thirty seven points last night for the nuggets or Jaren Jackson Junior who's averaging close to twenty seven a game for the Grizzlies I walked Jaren Jackson Junior. The third last night. You got to add a third for those guys. I know and Michael. Porter he had the back injury I. Think he might have been the number one player coming out of high school years ago. Then went to I think Missouri is brother also went to Missouri, and then the nuggets drafted him in the first round but they knew that he still had back issues like the nuggets drafted bowl. And he had foot issues, but he played in the bubble couple of games and he's actually look pretty good manute bol son. So they take a chance on a couple of players there but Michael Porter Jr. and it looked okay Yep. Oh. Yeah I watched a little bit in the preseason looks. He looks pretty good. He hasn't played much since they got in the bubble and he can shoot. He can shoot from three. He was at Oregon I. Remember he's like seven to he's out there and almost feels like he could go from the three point line and just like fall down and almost have a layup like he's just so long a finger roll. Yes. mclovin are these bubble adjusted evaluations Michael Porter skirts thirty seven like. Career high and you're like, okay. These guys are scoring huge numbers. Guys we don't know like like our Guy Oh Indiana. TJ Warn only thirty four last night. So what are you go from fifty three to thirty four? So they don't have all the depot Malcolm Brogden I think is just coming back. They don't have some bonus and TJ Warren is dominating in the bubble. Crazy. Yup Oh Michael Porter is an interesting case because he was a huge recruit when he went to Missouri I think he played three games there. Then he's out for the season a back injury they drafted anyway he doesn't play a minute as a rookie. He started a total three NBA Games in his career and three college games in his career in a three year span though. But everyone says he's as unbelievable prospects. His NBA career is already as long as his college career exactly game was. Yeah. But he put up thirty seven in twelve last night he's twenty two years of age. There's so much young talent in the NBA. Because they come in at eighteen or you almost forget about them so they come in and you go. Oh Okay Dallas drafted Luca trae young going to. ATLANTA. And then we sort of move on from them like two or three years later and you go how old is Jared Jack He came in at eighteen he might have been seventeen when he was drafted but he's only twenty years of age he put up thirty, three, twenty, two and twenty one in three bubble game so far from Memphis but. In the NBA in good hands is far as young talent coming in you just hope you're able to get somebody who can be the face of the League or faces of the League and Lucas going to be one of those faces trae young might be one of those faces Zion's going to be one of those faces. That's a pretty good starting point when you have three guys like that who are under the age of twenty two. Very promising Alex Caruso the Lakers guard will join US coming up. He stayed in the bubble didn't go to his sister's wedding. What do you get your sister if you don't go to her wedding? Because, you're in the bubble, maybe give her a championship ring. Joey Bosa, the chargers will join us in Mike Tyson will join us as well. Rick in Hawaii joins us on the program. Good. Morning Rick, how are you? Hey. Dan. How are you? Good Sir. What are you have? Hey. I've got a great Mike Tyson story seeing as he's going to be on the show later and this goes back. Well, probably I, WanNa, say somewhere around thirty years ago when I got the chance to Wait on the chap along with a party that included Don King Arnold Schwarzenegger Danny Devito Stevie Nicks. Robert, Kennedy Junior, and then the champ as they insisted that he'd be called that that night and the champ had to handlers with him who only actually did not even allow me to speak personally to the champ. Everything had to go through his handlers and so Rick. Call Him, Mike Tyson. You don't have to call him the champ anymore. It's okay. Don't don't worry about your safety. Well back then. Me My safety was endanger because they insisted that he just be referred to as the champ. So when it came time to order dinner, everybody was ordering and WanNa got to the time for the champ to order. All, he wanted was a double Caesar Salad maybe he was in training or something. So I figured I would bring the Champ a Caesar Salad. As the first course and then bring 'em another Caesar Salad at the second course. So when I talked to his handlers about doing that one of them, all of a sudden got rather angry with me and basically said, but you don't understand the champ wanted now. He wants it all now. So well, everybody was having their APP. I just brought the champ, his double, Caesar Salad which he promptly eight. Well. Thank you rick. I was hoping somebody was getting punched. I was hoping a little bit more rick than any eight the Double Caesar Salad, the irony is almost dinnertime. Happy historic. I thought maybe Stevie. Nicks of fleetwood Mac was going to be involved in this namedrop. Yeah. I got to veto in there and it ends with eight the Double Caesar's No, and then I brought the desert fritzy. Boy Long. Story. That was very. I think no Khuttan then. For. Why is it? When people say Long Story Short? It's a long story long. It's never a long story short they know subconscious is to go on. with, somebody goes a long story short I go no long story long. Take a break here play the day is coming up. And maybe some people have some. More, Mike Tyson stories, they'd like it to champ did and. Annatto vs Oh. Boy What They Marvin, can you tighten up the? You know the call screening there you left a thirteen percent and I said Mike why not twenty percent so the champ sorry champ needless to say. Then, they left the restaurant and they went home. Holly story that's True I. don't even like to take care player coming up next here on the Dan Patrick. Show thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Has the largest prison system in the world and some cases capital murder cases just preventing a death sentence and getting life without parole was a win people just want justice so bad that they're willing to accept everything face value when they need to really look deeper and really stand up when they hear about an injustice happening season two of sworn is underway and it's available. Now listen on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm John Horn host to the podcast Hollywood. The sequel on every episode, we're challenging producers, actors and directors to tell us what's broken in Hollywood and how they'd fix it. Here's producer aver name unending systemic racism. Is, not, enough statement it's not enough one black executive is not enough to is not enough. Your accompanying must look like the real world and we're tackling other problems like keeping everybody safe onset and fixing Hollywood's broken GIG economy. 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His body bill he looks like he's going to be really big really strong and I know Luca. Is Out of bounds but I mean job around might be the best out of all of them. He's not but he's a lot of fun. Thank you Jamie. I mean Lucas putting up historical numbers here. I mean. These are unheard of numbers. And? You know being you've got to be a bigger market to that's GONNA Jamaran being in Memphis but he's a fun player explosive player going to be the rookie of the year and might develop into that face of the faces of the NBA. But they're all, they're all. So young when they come in eighteen nineteen, twenty years of age you know go back to when I was growing up guys would get into the NBA they were twenty, two, twenty three. They were more of a polished product because they had played college basketball. You know a lot of these young kids they're coming in. They're learning to be a pro. They're learning to have a Polish game because they've come from Aau one year in college at the most and coming right in, and it takes a while Garnet while it took Kobe while those are two of the greatest players of all time. And you look at what they did their rookie yours look at what these kids are doing their rookie years. Zion's rookie year is averaging twenty three. Garnett eight points his first year. Now, Koby was coming off the bench. These kinds are putting up incredible numbers at Young Ages Yama Club. There was a funny thing in that Grizzlies Pelicans game. How many do players were? It was grace in. I even Grayson Allen came in. There he is. He's played great. Apparently really effective. He was covering JJ radical it was like. You know that me more spider-man's like it spider-man the same. No they're not the same player, but people are twitter were noting that the most Likeable Guy Zion and Brandon Ingram JJ radic are all out of Duke where it's the bad duke is well, people didn't like Jj Radic at Duke but they've changed i. don't know what happened with that. Because I think that people thought okay. They hated Duke and J. Redick was the face, Sedukh? So you. By proxy, you just hate Jj Radic. A He's one of the greatest shooters. Ever. And his his ability to shoot when he was in college like when you make shots and you're not even sure if it went through because nothing it didn't touch anything. He was one of the pure shooters in college I'd ever seen and you get to the NBA and then we kind of move on we go all where's JJ radic he's planned getting some minutes here. He's made the playoffs every single year he's been in the league. He's a great shooter and has become. A He's had very good career. I don't want to say great and his won anything, but started out slow and then kind of found his rhythm. I don't think he ever made an all-star to yeah I. Think we'd like Jj redick now because he reminded us when college basketball player stayed for more than ten seconds even though he's not that old he played in early two thousand guy stayed even two years. Yeah there there's always been that run of players and then all of a sudden and I brought this up last year. I said America's embraced Duke. And who would have thought that that would ever happen because Zion Williamson. You didn't root against him. But it felt like if it was Christian Leitner JJ, RETTIG can run down the list. Greg, Paulus WHOA Jr.. The worst. The full for. Why do you hate? WHOA JR say all those guys. Throw. Donald Shire also face seem gives us Shire face John Cherry. All right. Alex Caruso the Lakers guard will join US coming up Joey Bosa all of that next hour. 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"In order to create change you have to get uncomfortable, joined the breakfast club for a special conversation with conservative radio host. Rush Limbaugh. Why are we having this conversation with someone who's historical viewpoints differ so significantly from ours, and who we represent it because the dialogue has to be open beyond who we know or who we talk to every morning. Listen to the breakfast club on the iheartradio, APP Apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening to the best heard podcast. Be sure to catch US live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio nfs one. Find your local station for the hurt Fox sports radio, DOT, com, or stream it live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching heard. Is the best of the herd with Colin. cowherd on Fox sports radio. Here we go. It is a Tuesday. We are live in Los. Angeles and my hair is a mess. This is the her. Wherever, you may be an however you may be listening iheartradio Fox Sports Radio NFL one listen folks between the lack of haircuts, the lack of hairspray in our building and the lack of makeup. This is what you get from me. No more apologies. This is what it looks like when I get. Joy Taylor's joining me going natural. Yeah this is I'm not apologize anymore. There's a guy in callow la. It's a big. He's Ron. Howard friend, Bryan Glazer who's got the spiked up hair. It's kind of his trademark spike. I'm considering it. This is what my hair does. When Jersey Shore. That's the summer's almost the laundry tanning workout. Have Okay this. Folks is all I got, and if you're listening on radio, go ahead, watch TV. Make Fun of me on F s one good good avenue today. Emotional few couple of days I do. We are one hundred days away from the NFL today. For the record baseball going to figure it out. It's a stall optics and cosmetics here. The the players and the owners it's on the owner's hands now figured out for one hundred days away from football. And I was thinking about Dak Prescott. I'm just worn out on Dak Prescott. I'm just worn out. I think he's good. Not Great I'd franchise tag him I think. The Franchise tag is built verdict Prescott. But it's funny. Because I saw a story yesterday. I just didn't think yesterday we couldn't get to it. And there was a story about Dak Prescott, and they talked about the history of the franchise tag and every time. A quarterback gets franchise tagged. They. Don't stay with the team. Because there's it's a different thing with quarterback. You can franchise tag a receiver tight end a center, a running back a safety and they can be like pro bowl. And it's okay. It's like okay okay. I get it I. Don't Love It. But, quarterbacks do not like to be franchised. In fact Howie Long, always jokes. You can't have STU to star quarterbacks in the same room. There's not enough oxygen. Because quarterback the only position in football. There's really one guy per team I mean there's a backup and stuff, but there's there's one guy you can have six receivers, three tight ends, five corners, eight linebackers, and every offensive lineman's got somebody ready to go once you've got to aisher. Knee is a starter, but at quarterback. It's your team. Tom Brady wouldn't allow his backups after winning super bowls snaps in practice. That's how competitive there. I mean NBA stars. They need each other. And Baseball everybody welcomes in this new star Pitcher, but in football one quarterback for roster. That's really the guy or is all sorts of cats and dogs living together. And so I looked this morning at all the quarterbacks who had been tagged. It's funny. The Steve Young here. Kirk cousins drew brees Peyton, manning and look at the teams that franchised and Peyton manning colts, and a few years laters in Denver and drew brees, chargers, years later, and then Michael Vick with the Eagles and a few years later. He they all leave. And it's the engagement ring. The Franchise tag is the engagement ring of sports when you don't give a date. You know. Here's the ring. When are we getting married soon? I promise. Is there a date night yet? I'm working on it date. Other people knew. Little resentment I, mean you you like the idea now San Francisco would Jimmy Garoppolo he had only five starts, they gave him one hundred, thirty, seven million, so they gave him a ring and a date and set a wedding in the same day. Garoppolo Love San Francisco. They love San Francisco Dak Prescott like. When's the date? I've been here long time. You can't just give me the ring when when's the wedding? A lot of games. Times DAX won the division and quarterbacks get very sensitive. Remember Kirk cousins in Washington remember that reaction to kirk cousins because he got franchise folks, he's like a fourth rounder. They had rg three and here was his reaction. I've always said this. What happens the players you know? They agreed to the franchise tag. And generally. Owners beat players in all sports with negotiations because thirty two billionaires coming for the same worldview, and they all want the same thing more money bigger chunk of it players. They're seventeen hundred NFL players. They're all kinds of argument over different stuff for a veteran player. I just don't WanNa. Get hit as much for a veteran. Offensive Linemen I don't want practice. The owners will always obliged the players on less practice, less hitting giving more money. So owners always have an advantage over players. Older players just want less practice. They got thirty million in the bank. That's enough. They like to hunt fish Gulf little. They don't need zillions of dollars to be happy. The got their kids. They've got their wife. They teach their kids football. There with their kids. They're happy. Football players are happy. I don't need a billion dollars. Give me twenty million in the bank. I'm good. I'll go back to my hometown by Nice House next to a lake. I'm good. That's a lot NFL guys, and that's why owners generally beat players players after they play, disappear and play golf. Hang out with their families. Do their stuff in their local community. Maybe teach football. Billionaires want more money. I think is actually. The perfect franchise player. A I like him. I don't want anybody else to have him be. He Kinda regress last year and see I. Just want one year with a super bowl winning coach. It may have been the coach. Not The quarterback! But he deserves no. You Watch him last year. His salary wasn't his contract. Last year is GONNA be up at the end of this year, and that's why. He didn't look good, and that's why Franchise Tag. There are nine quarterbacks in the NFC alone. You can argue are more talented than deck Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson Carson Wentz drew brees. Tom Brady Jared Goff Matt Ryan, Jimmy Garoppolo Matt Stafford you can argue. are better than deck. Not Saying they are, you can make the argument. And here's the other thing to think about the NFC half. Half. Of, the starting quarterbacks in the NFC have started, a super bowl deck has a single playoff win. If Nick foles wins the Chicago job, my guess is he will. Brady Breeze Aaron. Rodgers Russell Matt Ryan foles jared Goff Jimmy G.. Many of them young have started in a super bowl. Players agreed to it. Players don't like it and quarterbacks are deeply deeply offended by it the engagement ring of professional sports. You give the ring. You don't give a date and quarterbacks don't like it. But I do think for TAC. It's fitting. Speaking of the Cowboys Troy Aikman talk yesterday now. I've always had this thing about the cowboys because their games are on television and I did this kid. The cowboys were popular when I was a kid. Now there are other teams in the NFL that felt almost as popular. The steelers were great in the seventies, the niners in the eighties, but the Dallas. Cowboys didn't get the label America's team like last year. They've had it my entire life. They've been called America's team forever. The Star in the helmet when I was a kid. And? Cowboy players because they're on television every week. You know what they make you see him on commercials. We always elevate how good they are just a little bit. We give them about fifteen twenty percent of love that we we wouldn't give a great player with Jaguars or the titans or the chargers, so troy aikman yesterday was talking about how good Dallas is talent. is here's Troy Aikman. The team that that really needs to go prove it out there on the field, and and they're talented enough. as I said earlier comparing the cowboys with the other teams that we cover across the league. I saw virtually all of them doing the Thursday night package as well as the Sunday package for rocks The cowboys are as talented as as any team in the NFL is very few coaches. I believe that wouldn't have swapped teams with the cowboys because about how talented they are so now they've got to live up to that and and and it's hard. And that's my question. Aren't they? We sure. So, I thought this morning I'm going to list the ten best Dallas Cowboy players. Two of them are really unbelievable could be the best player in the NFL position Zeke the running back. ZAC Martin Right Guard those guys are arguably the best players in the league. Then there's four guys I like a lot. Jalen Smith Tyron Smith. He's getting Amari Cooper. demarcus Lawrence I like Amari Cooper better than most. I get to seven. It's late vander. Mega talent, but hurt a lot. I'm not sure who eight is. Michael Gallup. Maybe. So I got seven guys in seventh I worry about health. Let's just take the team. Nobody talks about in Los Angeles. The chargers enlist their ten best players. Joey Bosa Derwin James. Keenan Allen Melvin Ingram trae Turner Mike Williams Casey Hayward Hundred Henry Chris Harris. Austin is ten. He had ninety two catches, eleven, touchdowns, and almost sixteen hundred yards as a running back, he was the best receiving running back in the league. Desmond King doesn't make my top ten. He was a pro bowl corner. All pro excuse me which is. Actually better. He was all pro corner last year year before eighteen. Twenty eighteen desmond. King doesn't make the top ten would be Dallas as best corner. In fact to show you the gap between the chargers, and the cowboys and I have the chargers finishing third in their own division this year. Casey Denver chargers. During James. Casey Hayward Chris Harris. And Desmond King. Would all start for Dallas in their Secondary Desmond Kings, their fourth, most talented defensive back. He would be Dallas his most talented defensive back in a passing league sort of matters. And Dallas doesn't have a pass rusher like Joey Bosa. And not nearly the receiving. They don't have the receiving death at all. And the chargers also have an elite. Elite tight end and that's just the second team in Los Angeles. Nothing troy but I tend to think we do this a lot with the cowboys. Is if you see something Bob Gibson's a legendary former major league baseball pitcher top ten of all time he used to say. You know pretty girls and bake. Great baseball catches the last. C is always the greatest. You Covet what you see. You see more of the cowboys than anybody else. They're on television every week. I. Mean Networks fight over? Fox NFL network Monday night football cbs all the every time. The cowboys are on so when you see something over and over. You tend to be oh, that's great. No, it's just the last great thing you've seen or the last good thing you've seen. I'm not saying Dallas doesn't have talent. I. Don't even think they're close to the chargers. I'm not sure there the rams. I definitely don't think there is talented as the Eagles Do you, am I wrong? When you see something all the time and you know what they make and their elevated by media. There's this misconception. Dallas is super talented. I don't think the top five team in the NFL, I don't think they have as much elite talent as Cleveland. I don't think they're close to Kansas. City San Francisco. New Orleans. Or Baltimore I don't even think they're close. Maybe I'm wrong. These shorter catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific Cam Newton remains unsigned as coach said it's all health. Let me let me just say this about the health thing. A lot of times, people just don't want to be honest about stuff until they make excuses. It's like back to the engagement thing well. We'll get married over time if somebody's India. Here's the ring. Let's get married. The whole thing about Cam Newton's health. Don't forget Joel embiid. was defined by getting hurt. He got a Max deal. Joel! embiid played thirty one games. Because, he couldn't stay. Healthy got AMAC deal why. There's nothing else like him on the market Aaron. Rodgers gotta Max Deal Office Second Collarbone Surgery. Carson Wentz got a deal. After back to back years and Philadelphia, he couldn't finish the season physically. There's bidding wars. For Leonard we came up with a term form load management. There's bending Moore's Anthony Davis. They'll be bidding wars. He can't stay healthy. You have Patrick Mahomes Lamar Jackson Russell? Wilson was on the market. We talk about Health Ron. Rivera saying. The only reason can get can't get a job. It's health. No, it's not. That's just not true. We're giving people athletes. One, hundred, thirty, one, hundred, forty, one hundred fifty million dollar contracts. Anthony Davis struggles with Health Leonard Aaron Rodgers Carson. Wentz Joylin bead was defined by injuries. Sixers like we'll pay for them. There are so few transformative athletes when you get them. You just pay you worry about the injuries later you figure medical staff new stuff down the pike. We'll just keep people healthy. Here's the reality about Cam. He's not as talented as everybody thinks. If you go, look at Cam Newton since the Super Bowl season, he's got an eighty two passer rating. He's completed fifty nine percent of his throws. He's a five hundred quarterback with sixty five TV's and forty four picks. That's what he is and Ron. Rivera is not a bad coach. Some of those years were Christian. McCaffrey DJ More Curtis Samuel Greg Olsen people who are on the market. They would get multiple bidders. TRAE TURNER PRO bowl guard. He's there's players everywhere. That's why Matt Rule took the job. He's like Oh. We got players here. Just give me a quarterback. We were making excuses on this. The health thing is a bunch of nonsense. The coach of Washington us to coach. Cam He went got his backup. Who has not half the town of Cham? Why is this cams not as good as we think? Early in his career when he can run, wasn't as banged up. There was something there. A lot of people in the league were still like yeah, can you win long-term? Okay, but since we're super bowl average. You've ever that's what it is. I. Don't buy the health stuff. It's like saying you see it all the time in Hollywood. Robert Downey career. There was drug use bad behavior. He's talented you just. You just use pay Robert. Downey we. We've seen this throughout the history of Hollywood. There's all sorts of actors who have had problems there difficult. I mean the Russell Crowe Stories. He's difficulties throwing phones. He gets jobs. because. There's so little rare top of the market time. That you just roll the dice on it. He's got a temper. I nobody's talented well. He's heard a lot of talent. She's difficult. She's talented. That's that's every industry I've ever worked in. Every industry everybody I've ever worked in. If they're talented, you find a way Cam, just not as talented as everybody thinks you. Lamar Jackson rips up his knee. Nobody's bidding. Patrick mahomes already been banged up. You think nobody's bidding. You just find a way to get him. One more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like the first things I, my friend Nick Right is joining us via our global satellite network brought to you by Mercedes, Benz, the best or nothing a by the way I do think. The NBA's GonNa get going. There's a bunch of different formats. Going on I, joked yesterday. It was one of my calling right Colin wrongs when I first saw Zion play I, said that's what a star looks like the smile, the power the dunking the personality, the size the force the shoe controversy. Do you think the NBA? Looks at these playoff formats and consider getting Zion and that's why they go to twenty or twenty two games. Oh I think he's certainly plays a big factor and thanks for having me on Colin enjoy I think he's a factor here, but the NBA has got to be careful because if they just left it, as is either one through sixteen or the top eight each conference, it's the same sixteen teams, and that last team in the West is Memphis some wall. MEMPHIS doesn't have star appeal or sex appeal it. Has John Mirant? WHO's The I? Think the second best rookie going to win rookie of the year and be a guy who's going to be one of the faces of the League, and if you try to arrange it, so he's out in. In that sounds great, if the Pelicans make it, and it's probably not terrible, if Portland makes it because they Damon Cj, but the other teams that are have the same record essentially as Portland New Orleans are saying Antonio and Sacramento and if you end up rejigging the play offs, and you remove job, who will be a star, and you end up with Spurs in the playoffs, and by the way I expect the Spurs to be as prepared as any team post pandemic because they pop. That's not exactly going to create the buzz. You were hoping for so if you have to wait a year on Zion, so be it remember the NBA had to wait two. Two years for Lebron to make the playoffs they ended up being just fine, and by his second year in the playoffs he was in the final so I I don't think you need to try to manufacture a star. Because I am, we'll be star. Weather's in the playoffs or not. You know there's a couple of cowboy topics. Troy Aikman said something. Yesterday and Troy knows a lot about the sport, but he said I think you could trae Dallas's roster for anybody's in my argument is we covet what we see and you just see more of the cowboys I mean. Nobody knows class Campbell class camels, great football player. Nobody watched it. Nobody watched jalen Ramsey cory. Gardner minhsiu actually has better numbers than Baker Mayfield. Nobody watches them play. My argument is the second team in Los. Angeles the chargers, their eleventh. Best Player is Desmond King. He was an all pro corner in two thousand eighteen. I think Dallas has a really good roster holes at Center cornerback safety tight end I don't think it's an elite roster, do you? Well I. DO think it's an elite roster. Your point on the chargers as well taken. It's why the chargers, but had it all set up for them. Just draft Isaiah Simmons at six Sign Cam Newton who I know. You're already sending to retirement. And you can really maybe even challenge the chiefs, but I listen I don't think Dallas has the roster one through fifty three that Baltimore does that potentially San Francisco. Does that New Orleans does but aside from those handful of teams, I think certainly to through fifty three. They do I love the edition of Gerald McCoy. Everybody likes CD lamb. You listed the other star guys they have to me, Dallas is question what will determine, do they win nine games or do they win? Twelve Games are these things can take a full step forward this year from a guy who, somewhere from the ninth to the thirteenth best quarterback in football, to where he's firmly entrenched in that Upper Tier and how big? Big of an upgrade. Are you getting from Jason Garrett to Mike McCarthy? If both of those questions are answered positively, then I think they can be a twelve win. Football team you I. Heard you mention that you like phillies. Talent more I couldn't disagree with you more on that. We've been done billy's talent for three years now I feel like ever since they won the super bowl I'd like to see show up, but I do. Trust wins more than back. It's up to back to prove me wrong on that this year. By the way I'm looking at Peter King, top thirty two teams. He'd listed every team in order. Kansas City one the good teams. You get the bad teams you'd get. He loves the raiders way more than I do, but then I like Denver more than anybody. Do. You have a team that people think is average that you really like in the Nick Right one through thirty to listen it. So yes I got I got a few I agree with you. He's a little too high on Oakland I. Totally Disagree With You. On Denver Denver is going to be a three or four win team this year, but the two teams that I think when I did my playoff big surprise. People is I have Miami being the last team in the playoffs in the AFC joy Taylor good for your hometown team or your team. I feel like they're gonNA. They'RE GONNA win nine games, but the team that I think can be excellent this year and be double digit compete for the Division in a very tough division is Chicago. They won eight games last year and we're live for the playoffs late with Mitch Trubisky quarterback. Now I'm not a big Nick Foles Fan, but at least Matt. Nagy isn't going to have to call plays with one eye closed by what is quarterbacks going to do and I feel like we've seen when you have certain teams get. The spirit sucked out of them by quarterback. Play. I. Think that's what happened to Jacksonville a couple years ago. We just if the other team gets to fifteen, we're finished and so I think the defense which actually add some bad turnover luck. Last year they were less than the league and fumble, recoveries or interceptions. One of the to my apologies for not remembering I think it bounces back so I think Chicago could actually be a very good team this year, and by the way you know I, think he has kids. CLEVELAND WAY TOO low. He has Pittsburgh way too high. I would flip flop those by the way last year on this show. Show you predicted. Buffalo is your surprise team and you were right, and you make compelling argument finally. You were very outspoken. I think we all were Lebron. James actually followed you. Re tweeted you on social media, you know about the situation with George Floyd Minneapolis and about what we're seeing in America I said yesterday I'm seeing ninety nine percent of protesters are doing it right. They're loud. They're angry. Their pain and their peaceful I think there are group's small separate doing some looting, but it resonated with you on many levels and. I can almost see when I look at you today. This has been a rough week for you. Yeah well I mean. Listen I I'm all right. It's been a rough week for America you know. Twenty twenty has been a long decade, and we're five months six months into it and so. There's a million things could say on this. You're right Aydin impassioned plea to White America yesterday about responsibility in this moment. I don't need to reiterate that here. People can see it on twitter if they'd like to. But I do I will say one thing I didn't say on the show yesterday. which is the focus and what I would consider the almost the sleight of hand that is going on by? The media putting a disproportionate focus on what is being called writing or looting when you are correct, the vast majority of these protesters are incredibly peaceful and many many of the dust stops have been instigated, and we've seen it on camera by the police, not by the protesters, but if I may use a Colin Coward style analogy if we want to focus on the looting for a moment if you invite me over to your house, and I bleed all over your carpet, and in fact, I intentionally spray blood in a few places and I'm sure it's a very nice ten thousand dollars carpet. That seems outrageous by me. But if it's because you shot me, it's pretty offensive that you're mad about the damage to your carpet. And if the next they were still were like well, nick got shot, but gallons carpet got ruined. I'm going to be a little angry because it was like Yo. Why are we talking all about the carpet? I feel I feel very badly for the small business owners, and and I'm not minimizing that, but that is not the subject at hand here and every minute that is spent concerned about that is a minute that is not spent. Trying to get to the root causes and the root issue here which state sanctioned police violence, particularly against minority communities, and as long until we are comfortable, having that very uncomfortable conversation, and actually trying to make proactive changes to address it. Unfortunately a lot more carpets are going to get blood on, and and we're not going to actually move forward in that regard, and so that's what I would say. If I get on a lighter note. Can I say one of the things you? Go! You had a great tweet a few months ago in the midst of the pandemic sang once. Everything opens back up. You're going to tip like casino gangster. Because, you're friends in the food service industry. Can we add an addendum to that which you and I are going to start appreciating our hair? More, ever have an advocate for higher pay for them. Because my God you and me are in rough shape, buddy. I'm worst, said fatigue by the way. Don't take it personally. You get up at three in the morning. I couldn't do what you do, so I would I would be. My middle name would be fatigued, but it has been emotional for all of us. a dear friend Nick Right. I love having you on the show, buddy. You to talk to be sure to catch live additions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern not am Pacific on Fox. Sports radio affects one and the iheartradio APP. Peter King came out, and it's a simple thing, but it's fun. He ranked. All thirty two NFL teams now. Obviously, we all kind of agree on the top four, three or four. We all agree on the bottom for five. But it's interesting to look at Peters. He likes Tennessee is is number seven? The raiders are number eight and the are ten, so I was GonNa say I'm this is his power rankings so I. I don't like. The titans nearly as much the raiders, nearly as much and the steelers nearly as much so let me just discuss those teams. Why don't I like them? The raiders. There are bad defense. They have I. Think easily the worst defense in their division Vic Fangio. I think we'll make Denver's defense even better this year I think the chargers get Derwin, James Back have remarkable secondary pieces and to pass rushers. I don't like the raiders pass, Rush. I don't like their defense. I don't like the Karma and the relationship. GM cars and quarterback I think is tenuous, and frankly no team to relocate has won more than nine games in that season. In its new location since the Super Bowl era. As far as the the Pittsburgh steelers, I think the division is significantly better. I think Big Ben is thirty eight years old has never been known is a great off season workout guy. I don't think they elevated their team in the off season Eric Lebron's Nice player at tight end I don't think he makes them significantly better. I still have concerns about the details from my Tomlin, too Big Ben. Big Spots I'm selling some steeler stock for the first time in my life. And I don't buy. Tennessee I thought it was sort of lightning in a bottle a magic season they lost one of their best offensive tackles. They lost one of their best defensive, tackles and drill Casey They were hiding Ryan Tannehill last year, and their two playoff wins. He threw for one hundred sixty yards combined I think they were hiding him, and if you look at that roster outside of Derrick Henry if I say name their elite players I. Just don't think they have many. I liked the coach. I like the GM. I like the system, but I just don't buy them as an elite team now Peter also has. Has Three teams lower than I do. He's got the Eagles fifteen. The broncos twenty and the browns twenty four I. Like all those teams more and here's why the Philadelphia. Eagles I think they're owner. Their GM, their coach, their quarterback are all aid a minus. They've made the playoffs for three straight seasons and what I like is they attacked there to weaknesses? CORNERBACK was a struggle Darius sleighs a top five corner. They went and got him still surprised. Detroit gave him up and to Sean Jackson comes back at wide receiver alshon Jeffery comes back, and they addressed it with Markey's good one in a trade and Jalen Rieger from TCU. In the draft they addressed their perimeter spots, which were both weaknesses. I love their line. Play their GM their coach, their quarterback in their owner, and I believe leadership wins in this league as much talent. The Denver Broncos they're my shot team. In the League Vic Fangio never has bad defenses for very long, and they started playing really good in spots last year. They four for their last five games. They lost many of their games. Five of their losses were one possession. They've upgraded with Pat Shurmur, not a head coach, but a great coordinator and I by drew lock. I thought he had some gunslinger. I think they have the underrated tight end wide, receiving running back corner the NFL. I like Denver a lot and finally the browns. There were six and ten last year and I thought they were the worst team in the NFL. They had the worst tackles in the NFL I. Think Cleveland has made major upgrades at both tackle positions and coach and coaching in this league feels like it's over fifty percent of the sport and I. Think Freddie Kitchen is a nice guy, and he's a good dude, and can coach, but not a head coach in the NFL in the AFC north I thought he was over skis I said it when when he was hired. And again I think he can coach just not a head coach in the NFL maybe a college coordinator. Before last year was an NFL position coach. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon. Eastern, not an Pacific in this business, some sometimes I know the athletes I'm going to bring on my show, but most often I do not. We have a handful of people at this network that we employ and we were. Part of the team. But Stephen Jackson was one of those athletes I had watched them. He was a tough guy. He was a rough guy and I first time I invited him on the show. I had no idea what I was up against her. In for and I connected with him, I thought he incredibly authentic. I thought he was so real. I thought he was outspoken. He didn't really care what I thought about him. Or what others did and in my business I think it's rare when you find people that are loyal to themselves and honesty and be damn with everything else, and it's one of the reasons we keep inviting Steven Jackson back on the show. But. We invite him back today. For another reasons. He was a childhood friend of George Floyd. and He's been front and center nationally on this story and I want to bring him in via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So. First, of all I, appreciate it. It's been an emotional time for you. Let's start from that point. You and George were childhood friends. The age were you athletic? Friends explain to our audience, your history with George who was murdered last week, by a police officer in Minneapolis. Thanks for having me gallon. Again by the twenty twenty three year relationship I was playing basketball my teenage years. He came down. The pulled out the Texas, which is forty five minutes from where he lives in Houston with a friend of mine, telling and tell you already told me at Homeboy, Houston, that look just like me. We might have the same dead. and. telly brought him down and our first two world, when we say, which was Julio Daddy who did, and because because we looked at much light, and I think the fact that we live bed much alive We had some of the common goals. We kind of live with the same at the time I was in the streets, allowed at the time and. We just bonded. We protected each other. He supported me and everything I was doing, and he was just a great France somebody always at my back. When you say he's just like you. What what what I mean, you meet a lot of people. Why did you remain close? What? What was it about him? Well one thing about one thing I love. The bottom was where the only deaths between me and him. We come from the same areas, but I have more opportunity to him. He was a it was a it was a top tight end and it takes. They lost in the State Championship. He was also good basketball, so he had opportunities sports, too. He had a chance to go. He just didn't get opportunities. And Floyd was just the guy who wanted protective provide everybody, but everybody He's one of those guys especially in basketball. You meet a lot of people that abuse your friendship at times when he needed thinks he didn't even call me because he probably called me a month before he wanted to call me again when he did call, he called me for clothes for a job interview or something that his mother needed. Most people call you just to try to abuse your friendship because they know you're going to give it to him. He was one of those guys that genuinely supported me. Only call when they need so. The video is outrageous and it's disturbing for me. After you saw the video for the next several days. I know it's a personal question. Did you sleep? How difficult how pain, how difficult was it for you? Is it? It's still kinda crazy. put a whole world to see my goal like that. I still obsesses always time after but. is. It. I I've gotten a little sleep. The first couple of days I did sleep. but I'm not I'm not even I don't even know how I feel when people accident I can't give him my answer because I'm not about how I feel. This this position fell out with with this happening to my brother, my brother getting murdered and I'm embracing it so I'm not. I hadn't really thought about myself since it happened. Put myself on the front line standing for my brother and every time I think about it. I get right getting multiple, but. Is I. Don't I don't think that's NAPA goal because everybody's saying. What's your reaction to America's reaction to Georgia's death? I love it. I Love The fact that Colin. You know this I've told somebody from heavy rains that I love men I mean so I love the fact that everybody stand with me because they know that I'm standing for them. I'm not the type of the black man that says black people in Asia and I ate everybody else. No, I love being black and I love being black I, but I love everybody as well and what they are afraid of. Standing Together for the right cause with scattered scared of US standing together side by side, and love each other and show, we can stand together to get things done, but right now they want us to divide, and that's what they scatter. In I've said I've overwhelmingly seen peaceful protests, overwhelmingly ninety nine percent, and then there are separate groups, and they feel separate from protesters that they take this opportunity and you know they do what they do and their stores and there's fires. Does that bother you? Or do you think it's part of the process Do you think it's disrespecting George's legacy? What do you make of the occasional burning car and the store situations? That was that wasn't him. I always say I. You know I'm. A OF MINNESOTA had to respond that way. Minnesota had to respond that way. It's a it's a line cases that still haven't been a lot of families and mothers that still have no answers for their size being killed. It's not just my brother since I've been here. I've learned about at least three others size killed by police and they still haven't gotten ounces, so it's Minnesota had to respond that way everywhere else. I think they win a little bit too far. Far Yet, you should have went down to police. Stations used should've went down and a protest, but it should have been peaceful especially in Atlanta. Black be basically built Atlanta so we don't need to tear it down. I live in Atlanta so that they really make. No sense in Florida would want people terrorist up down. He will love you while you only everyone everybody to support each other, and that's what I'm GonNa do. I would imagine you've had a lot of people because you've never sought attention since I've known you, and now you're at the center of this and you're clearly comfortable with this. Lebron reached out I. Know that. Have you had a lot of people? Different people politicians athletes reach out to you. Have more people. Reach out to meet in my in my whole life. A lot of people but it's it's. It's good because they listening and they all won't change, but it's time for not to just call me and say you want change. You gotta stay with you guys down the side of me. Anybody could send me a text. Anybody a damage. Say I support U.. S. Alcohol Cool, and I'm even talking to my athletes and my friend has around the world the. Is Easy to send a text, but guys like Jamie. Fox showed up. Guys like Karl Anthony towns showed up. Guys like Bundy and traded true showed up. You know so guys like rush. White showed up so certain people showing up to Meka Mallory, a lot of people showed up and It's not about saying you with me. You have to be over side of his stand with me. In your life and I asked this joy and I have talked about this and I asked I asked every athlete this. This is a personal question. You don't have to answer it. But in my in my lifetime when I have asked executives athletes. WHO ARE BLACK IN AMERICA ABOUT Driving and seeing and being dealt with differently than I have been I mean I get tense when I'm pulled over. A but I I am overwhelmingly. I can't even begin to talk about this it's. Irrelevant on this topic about police treatment in your life. Do. You be as honest as you can if you would about. You've been pulled over how you've been. You're a big athlete. You're a big strong athlete and when you have been pulled over. Do you think it's fair? It's just 'cause. Do you get anxious? How do you feel? I think the reason why I've never done with because of my hometown. The most of the police that's in my hometown grew up in that area. So they know us all and I think that's that's what keeps us from having these situations Ripley's. If if more states would have police that grew up in this area and policing the they grew up in. They won't. They won't have access like this. Because they know everybody a lot of times, you get these ex. Ex military guys, ex skinhead gas. They come in and. And be policed. You put them in the area. They don't. They know nothing about and these are the things that happened, so no, no I've never done with it. Because a lot of like I, said most of the police they CA- came watch my basketball games. They knew my family are. They went to school with my family, so it was no, it was no need to hounding like that. If I was doing something wrong, they can just reach out to my article somebody. They went to school with so I never with. So you have mostly in your personal life. A positive relationship with law enforcement no question. Yeah anybody in your family law enforcement. No. Actually online. My Article Margo was a was a co for a while. I think he's still not mistake Malcolm Shell. You have been thrust into the forefront of this and it's interesting because I I think you're one of the more real people I interview. And you feel it. You feel very comfortable in the space. Are you surprised a little bit? Your Comfort being out there with this I don't consider political. It's a it's a humanity issue, but you've embraced it. You've been comfortable you've been. Are you surprised for you at. How you've handled it. Obviously, you're in deep pain clearly, but are you surprised? That you want to speak to people you get up in the morning and you want to address this. Work through to reason why people shouldn't be surprised. the Bra Detroit and Strip club in Indiana. I've always been my brothers, and I'm not surprised. This is my heart I actually care. I've always actually cared about people. That's why I. Say stamp everybody so I didn't ask for this role college I didn't ask to be here. If I could rewind back at my brother back and not be here, I would take it, but this is what it is. This is reality and I think a lot of people following me because. I'm representing what the world has lost, and that's common sense, you know the world's definitely lost Commisson and people know I stamp everybody. Massol, I love everybody at my heart has always been in the right place and I'm embracing I'm not running from. Stephen appreciate you doing this. At first I didn't know. I didn't know if it was appropriate to bring you on I. Think it is and I appreciate you spread the message and. You know how which I? Found Out I. Am of you coming on our show? And next time I. Hope it's better circumstances but I appreciate it. Man. 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2019 NFL Re-Draft

"Hey guys still hear me. And Lindsey Jones are going to be redrafting. The first half of twenty nine thousand nine. Nfl draft in a minute. But I just wanted to remind you if you are not already aware tune into the last dance a behind the scenes look at the one thousand nine hundred Chicago Bulls Dynasty. Yes it's been moved up. The series begins this Sunday at nine pm. Eastern on ESPN and you can listen to the RAPA podcast hosted by Jalen and Jacoby. The immediately following the broadcast is presented by state farm an at and T. It's available wherever you enjoy your podcast. Check out the last dance and shake up the bill. Maher show in a moment all right joining me now as promised from the athletic by friend Lindsay Jones Lindsay. How are you surviving quarantine as well as we can drop down three year? Old is an adventure well. Nfl teams are going to be going undergoing an adventurous in. I know it seems like it shouldn't be harder to draft over as call than teach children. But here's where we are the. Nfl is struggling with the technology. They have to deal with in advance of twenty twenty draft so to give them a little bit of help. I thought it made sense for you and I to go back and reject just the first half of the first round of the twenty thousand nine hundred to prove that you can still do it without having thousands of people in a room or underneath the blasio fountains. Yeah I think I think we can handle it. I mean we're on the phone. We've got our computer. I think I think these guys are going to be okay. And they're all of these concerns except for a little bit with the IT technical security issues. But otherwise I think they're going to be fine. I mean I think at least thirty general managers are going to be fine. A couple of teams. I'm a little concerned about but I think the majority of faculty five I think mostly fine except they'll be one team not even like the giants pick but they'll be one team that just like their Internet connection will stall and they'll be stuck with twenty five minutes here so I'll give an example my prediction of a team that something is going to happen. It's the Broncos because we've got John elway on a conference call Kind of wrapping up free agency a week or two ago and it's like he was calling from Mars almost no reception. You couldn't hear anything Franken's PR was fantastic and went back and re asked him the question but it was. It was a little rough so given given that the issue you had with his cell phone affection at his home and their history with issues with the fax machine. They're they're my ticket struggle with technology. I forgot about the fax machine situation. Oh man or Elvis Doer Ville. Fortunately I don't think there'll be any taxes involved with the draft so that should help but you know I think they're my wildcard team for a club that might have some issues with technology like that. I'm excited I'm more excited for this draft than any draft in recent memory. But like I said today we're going to go back to twenty nineteen the first half of the first round and we are going to redraft. The I sixteen picks of that round to see what's changed over the course of the year last year. We all felt really confident that the guy has taken at the top of the draft where the best players now. Not so much. I have some players from later rounds. Poppy into the top sixteen here. There are some players who could be you know. Go from being sixth or seventh round picks to possibly being first rhinos. All looking at here in this first sixteen player discussion so Linzie. You're the guest. Let's start with you. Let's start first overall pick. Who Do you have going to the Arizona cardinals but the first pick well? I think this one's going to start off kind of boring because I think they made the right pick. I think even with hindsight Kylo Murray was the pick then and he should still be the pick now For everything that they were doing Philisophical with the coaching staff. That they haven't played I think it was the right move and if they were doing it again today I think he would still be there guy. I mean I guess the one you know sliding doors type of universe thing is if they decided that they could work with Josh Rosen and then they dropped Nick Botha but I think it's Cuyler I. I have a really hard time making an argument for anybody other than Cuyler Murray. Yeah I think it's both sides and I think I'm happy picking Cuyler here for the cardinals interesting. Because it wasn't like he had a spectacular season you know but but the offense did work wasn't like it was a disaster by any means but I don't know I mean what do you think. Do you think if you had to grade. Tyler's first year. It exceed your expectations that it meet your expectations was below your expectations. Where did it kind of fall? Yeah I think I think it's somewhat exceeded my expectations. I mean I think my my expectations for the cardinals overall was pretty low. Just based on the talent level across the roster a lot of the defensive deficiences they had I had a lot of questions about their offensive line But I think it works. It worked. Well you know and I think that they're going to try a lot of things there in Arizona. That might take a little bit of time to work in the NFL. But I'm excited that they're doing it. I'm excited that there's some new innovation But we're that there's a college or an. Nfl coach was such a heavy college. Background was trying things and doing things that most teams are not. So He's the right guy for that coach with Clusky Very And I'm just. It's been really exciting to watch this off season of them continuing you know. I I guess my my my thing is that I. I always just WanNa see a coach. General Manager Organizational Philosophy completely in line with who their quarterback is and who. You're going to be very clearly know who Arizona cardinals are and what their offense of identity is and you know for me that means it's working jack. I think that's fair to say And I do think that we're GONNA see a lot this year from Calamari. I think if if he has you know kind of an okay year. And you're too. I think you might be a little concerned after they did at Hopkins the Second Year of the system. They have Kenyan drake for a full year. Hopefully the offensive line isn't going to be quite as bad as it was two years ago. And it's still a lot of struggles last year but I think he's he's well positioned to kind of take that leap in near to that you would hope for the second overall pick I mean. Is there any reason to anybody but Nick Bosa now? There's not I think for every other team on this list. I have multiple options except for the niners. I just. I think it's so clear that nick both Is the right guy for them and just go back and watch basically all of their postseason games. He was a monster. And you know it's crazy that I just back in August being worried about him because he you know. He hurt his hamstring. I think the first day of training camp and missed a couple of weeks and said Oh. Is this guy going to be injury prone and then here he is like you know rising off the field like the undertaker in a in a playoff game and he very if the niners had won the Super Bowl. You could have made an argument that he should have been the. Mvp of that game Can we get here that postseason? I mean he's only GonNa get better he's GonNa Pass. Joey Bosa pretty quickly. I think as the Alpha male and not family He Yeah I. He's so good and the niners. It's unbelievable to me that the niners got him. It's still pretty crazy. That with the all the other high tech's that they were able to have over the last couple of years but you know they accidentally tanked twenty eighteen. We're able to get joey or get Nick Bosa. Do you think that t? J. Watt has passed. Jj Watt at the Alpha male with a family. Now I don't think so really yet give him a couple years sow just to do what was pretty good last year. He was very good last year. Then JJ got a couple of days. You've got a couple of defensive player of the year awards though that is true. You know. He's still has. He's still a ways to go but They had a family versus. The family would be a really fun. Reality shows that we have this summer. When there's a sport. Are you listening? May I hope so? I really hope so case. Let the first depicts. I think are pretty obvious. And you know you could have gone those with the first overall pick. I wouldn't have blamed you. I think Murray's the guy for me it seems to be the guy for you but I could absolutely been Bosa I maybe that changes things around. But here's where I think it's interesting because now we have the jets with the third overall. Pick they chose Quinton Williams gwyn Williams had a pretty anonymous and he's not even in the top sixteen for me When it came to this redraft I think he's going to be a fine player. We just he didn't show anything in the year one on a team that show anything really as a whole for most of two thousand nineteen. So who do you have the jets taking with the third overall selection? So I'M GONNA have the jets thing with defense but I'm having them go with Outside linebacker Josh Allen Okay. I think it's the best the best rookie pass. Rusher outside of Nick both Last year he was really really effective for the JAGS. I think he could fit kind of any any scheme and I would love to see him there with With the jets with some of those other places that they have in place and they really need that kind of like yes closed her. They need that kind of guy to be. Couldn't really was not that guy for them. So you know of the guys that was available You know I really liked Josh Allen and I think you know. He was a hypic already. I mean. He went seventh last year. But I think if we're rebuilding this that you know maybe some of the questions that chain about him. I think were unfounded. You know they can some of those like well. How much does he love? Football kind of questions and I think it's clear that he wind loves football and to he really really really good player and we'll probably be a good player for a long time. So that's where I'm going with the jets at number three. So let me ask you now be questioned that will rain for years to come in the NFL. If all thirty two teams got to pick between Josh Alma quarterback and John Edge rusher. How many are choosing the quarterback? And how many inches in the address? I mean probably more of them are gonNA choose the quarterback because teams. They're just so enamored with quarterbacks especially big tall white quarterbacks really strong arms so I you know I probably teens the way that they are constructed now and the decision makers that in place would probably still go quarterback but Maybe like twenty twelve twenty for the quarterback twelve for the pass rusher. I think that's fair. And I mean Josh Allen. The quarterback had a good year so yard out of the question. This could be a real dynasty for two players with the name. I think we're going back to the Alex Smith. Who is the tight end with the bucks as far as high profile quarterback and I profile player at the position with the same name so an exciting? How we had the Josh Allen Guarantee here in Denver with the two Brandon Marshall. Oh that's very confusing for a while. Even though they never played in Denver at the same time but it was pretty confusing and and still is confusing for largely for the linebacker brandon. Marlon gets more of the the messages that are intended for the receiver but Yeah actor that's funny so here my third pick for the jets. I'm going out of the first round. Ooh already going out of the first round. I am giving them. Aj Brown and the reason. Why go there jake? Brown is because he look awesome. Last year was phenomenal. And it might not be sustainable. Just be that Ryan. Tannehill had the year of his life and Nj Brown was on the other end of those passes but he looks like a a man among boys like he looked like he was just one of the most impressive players in the league with the ball on his hands last year. Catching balls twenty five yards downfield. He was a force of nature during the second half of the season. The jets. I mean yes I agree. They need to pass rusher for sure and they tried to sign. Anthony Barr to be that guy in it they did and then the kid but this eighteen that repeatedly has struggled to find weapons. Were Sam Darnold. Jamison crowder was fine. But Quincy Nuwa got hurt That's been hurt twee last three years Anderson this year and we don't know they're gonNA lose rb Anderson. I think this is a team that even last year even after free agency was done and even after the draft done kind of felt like oh they need to more for Sam Darnold Levian bells on enough. It's offensive line is still a mess. The receiving core is still mediocre. I mean when you're counting on Chris. Herndon the BA impact. Tight end bike. He might be that guy but we just don't know so I think if you know you're going to get that. Aj Brown from twenty nine thousand nine hundred. I think the jets have to take him. Because I think you have to get that weapon in place. Where Sam Darnold just to not only improve Dr but also just to evaluate him just to get a sense of whether he's GonNa be your guy for the future. Yeah I I agree. That he was on my list of other options for the fair but Yeah and then it was You know I'm not so sure about the receiver moves that they made free agency so yeah haven't haven't got around. There would have been made it a lot easier. I think maybe lobby Andersen go. There was trading her. Yeah Yeah Three. So Yeah Yeah. We won't see something for Sam Darnold because this is a make or break year for the jets quarterback at four. I had Josh Allen. Go into the raiders. I think it's the same sort of thing. The raiders diggity big year out of Max crosby on the edge of draft Colin Farrell. I just think Josh Allen Explosive. Pass rusher to the point you said earlier. I mean a guy who I think you know on Jaguars team or would have been easy not to care for. It would have been easy just to kind of be anonymous. He was an impact pass. Rusher and I think that's a really good sign for his future. But who do you have? Going to the raiders at four. So I actually had. Aj Brown so we had earth and are raiders. Picks flipped so I think knowing what we know now about how the twenty nineteen season transpired. They very clearly needed a wide receiver. you know. Dot Class April. They thought that they were Antonio Brown. Clearly that didn't happen I think they would've been much better suited to have. Aj Brown rather than Antonio Brown's so That's that's who I had them going and we texted a little bit last night as we were trying to. You know as we're going through our less than we although we we don't know each other's picks but no we talked. I asked You I did ask you do other. The rest of their picks still stands so like the peck say made in the late around and I was thinking specifically about the raiders. And that's crosby and like if they could land price later and get the production that they got out of hand and they wouldn't have needed to use their first of three first round picks on a pass rusher so that's why I went Offense and AJ Brown. It wasn't interesting so are stop at the athletic did A redraft twenty nineteen a month or two ago and our beat writer Bhaktapur. Shake up here for which I thought was a little interest. You know it was a little wild Yeah I mean I I get the idea that he's such an important part of their offense and you know the best rookie running back of last year. But I mean he better be. Jim Brown wanted to to running back. Number four is kind of where I'm at now. It's a big ask of any running back to the fourth overall pick. I will say I mean. I think there's a chance I'm not going to spoil anything but there's a chance Max crosby comes off the board in the top. Sixteen somebody alert. Yes alerts. So yeah so we split. At Brown Attach Allen there between three and four th Appendix J. Brown was the best receiver to me. I thought it should have been the offensive rookie of the year. I'm not upset that he didn't win but I think he at the very least should have been in that conversation. What's going five Tampa Bay? I have them taking Devon White. I have them staying with the pick. They made in the actual draft thought. He had a great season. That was much improved. Defense kind of lost in the shuffle of James Winston and the Jameis Winston Sokha when it came to giving the me another team of pick six. Start the game every week but I think he did a really good job and I think someone who the bucks can build around on that defense. Yeah I'm the same way there. Devon White was one of the the the redraft Pixie or to. Just stay with the guys that they had you know. I think you're this time last year there was also a lot of talk and speculation that they might go pass. Rusher there Debating whether or not they WANNA take Josh Allen for example somebody like that but ultimately knowing what we know now Shaq Barrett ended up being just fine more than five there. So you know drafting a linebacker light was was the right call And I think it's still the right call. They think the other possibilities as if they maybe would have gone offensive. Line could've offensive line there But I you know but I I think it's the right call and they. I think Jason Light would turn that card in five seconds or call more zoom it in whatever it is the new and and in a matter of seconds this year if they had the chance to redirect I wonder is it going to be just like like. Is there going to be like some kind of protocol for getting the pin? Yeah I mean I think there's a couple of different ways that they can do it. They're all going to be directly connected to the League office main computer for getting the call in but they all also have a cell phone to call directly to There's one person I believe office and Pete Peoria believers his name That if all else fails if like the the the zoom or the Microsoft teams or whatever it is that they're using somehow sales that they can call directly to this guy and get their pick made which is how we can assume that the general manager of the next on our list is going to be doing it. He's going to be calling hardline hardline with one computer. Yeah Nice paper binder. He had he had the biggest. I've ever like you know like like when you go like high school. Teachers would be like. Oh you have to get this. Is Binary Blake? I'm never going to buy into that. Big This was three times as big as that. Binder was insane. The size of the it was like three phone buckwalter many of our listeners. Remember what a phone book looks but yeah I mean it was. It was massive. So what is he going to do? I'm sorry we're totally going topic here but to draft night. There's like four minutes left on the clock and you know one of the scouts is running a name by him and he's like flipping through pages licking his fingers. You dig back all the way to the WS or whatever and try to bring. That is exactly what is going to happen. I don't see where that would be surprising in the slightest. Honestly I'm happy. He has a binder. Happy it's not a big filing cabinet of stuff. It's pretty remarkable that we're giants at any sense of their social media. People they live cam on. That's all I want now. You Really Shave alive. Cameron Dave Cattleman. Well we should get to the giants pick which is going to be. Daniel tuned in pick for me and then like I think he's. He's not I'm not. I'm so thrilled about his potential. I still think he struggled in a lot of ways in two thousand nine hundred eighteen but man. The giants need a quarterback and I think he's the best one available In this draft class at this point yeah and I actually like him better at six now than I did. A year ago I think the redraft or if we're getting to change anything about what happened to the twenty nine off season is that I would have changed what they did with ally and how they handle the. Eli and not who the actual traffic was sense that that would be my redo there. But I still think it's Daniel Jones. I think you could. You could maybe try to go through. Scenarios advocate where. They really needed a quarterback. So you know to take our MINHSIU I mean. I guess he was the second best rookie quarterback last other than cuyler. Murray but I still think that that's maybe our reach actually definitely a reach you know and they also have you know obviously so many holes in so many issues and somebody questions about why they're dropping is they are this year so you could make an argument that they should have just taken the best available player right down you know they could have had. I don't know who else does but we will get letters Mush Oliver but I still think they are who the giants are what they need. Daniel Jones is still the right guy there And maybe in this sort of redraft knowing what we know now. They wouldn't have gotten his hand for immediately. Yeah that's true that's fair and you know they could've traded down that's that would have been the fair thing with eighteen that has not traded down somehow in fourteen years. So you know maybe you're allowed. I honestly one year. Where trades are hard. Yeah I'm going to start calling people you know they're gonNA get low level scout in another organization to approve a trade and then run out of time on the clock in this their pick. That's that's what the giants would you in this situation. Okay I will say from this point. Four eight Oh hold on valve. We didn't bring Abby Joe Judges Dog who all right. This is my favorite story to come out this week. About draft crop is that Joe Judges. Dog is the only one who knows what's happening with. The giants dropped plans because she sits with her head on his lap for fifteen hours a day. So if there's any team who's going to have a dog make a pick and maybe should let the dog make the tickets. The giants again giant. Social Media. You should have a at least one shot of happy. The dog or like coach row on Abbey the Abbey the dog. I WANNA see abby watching film I WanNa see you with one of those in her paws. Go into the film. That's exactly what I WANNA see. Maybe they're torn between two guys like draft Pick A and B. They can you know. Give her to bowl. The food allergy goes to yes WEIRDO. You have ideas today bell. I mean we are going from being football writers social content creators for the New York giants which is an interesting path for us to take but Yes I will say from this forward. I have no more picks that were made by the original team. Everyone from this point forward is a new selection which I think is better. I mean I think these picks were fair but this went forward number seven with the Jaguars team that has a lot of needs. The you know to your point. Who Do you have some taking with the seven section? So I'm going to have them take all of her okay Taco. Who Fell. Yeah they do love. Defensive Lineman Obviously Josh Allen who they took last I I think if they had a chance to take John challen again. They would've taken Josh Allen Again But I you know the the board is the way it is. I have been taking at Oliver who I think was really underrated as a rookie in Buffalo. you know didn't just probably the position that he plays and exposure that buffalo gap. Sometimes I think he didn't get enough attention but I think he's GonNa end up being kind of the defensive line star out of this draft class So I'm going to have them going at Oliver. I did think about Menchu. They didn't think about it but I'm not having them take guard. Their shoe in the first round. I think they probably could still get him a little bit later. I think two or three years probably work Gardner when Shula. After the first year taking a lot of sense I mean at offer. I think there's a guy like you said who really only played about half the snaps in Buffalo. But that wasn't because he wasn't playing well it's just because they rotated there guys in and out and I mean he was. You know from the first week on impact player on on one of the. League's best defense is and I think you know maybe little unfair to judge him by the Nick Bosa standard where it was like. You know defensive player of the year candidate but I think a guy who looks every bit to be you know sort of one of the higher percentiles of what we might have expected coming out of school. I'm a devastating interior disruptor I went with Devin Bush of the hat where they're going to the steelers who I think looked really good kind of struggled a little bit towards the end of the year in the second half they gave him a few steps on third down but I think a guy who you know great instincts a guy who by all accounts looks to be the next great steelers linebacker Absent playmaker in the first few weeks of the year guy who was recording just intersections. Every week it seemed like I think a player who you know the jags did. They signed shepherd. I think if I could race that move and happened grabbed and Bush. I think that's probably a better fit for them. But I see your point about adding another defensive Lineman I mean they do. You need a defensive tackle after the moves they've made this offseason so Coming in a bunch of different ways but I think that makes sense. I think adding a defensive piece of that core because barely even though they were one of the best defences in football and came within a quarter of you know dragging Blake Bortles to the Super Bowl in foxborough. That defense has mostly gone any if you can get straight and it's going to be even further away from the defense a couple of years ago so pass scary. Imagine like the niners. Having one of the league's worst defenses two years from now and having seven eleven players on that defense gone. That's that's what happened with Jacksonville. And yet all the people there who well not all the people but a lot of people who felt that defense that almost got them to the super bowl are still in charge. All the people who took all the first round picks not workout super well besides Jalen Ramsey who forces way out of town. You know you're Leonard. Fournette senior Blake Bortles. You're not they fowler's those you know those people are still there and hey it's nicer dude again. Yeah like we had fun that one ear. So let's let's take four more years to get back to that point we'll see. I don't know but it's nice work if you can get it for sure. The BILLS BILLS. Picking with the nine hundred. I'm sorry are you gonNA get a call? Yeah that's fair I don't want it. Forgot the lions that they're going to be better this year. But who do you have to why it's taking so? I have the Lions Going out of the first-round from last year and taking chase which. Oh who ended up with the Patriots because we all know Matt? Patricia LOVES NOTHING MORE THAN PATRIOTS. Guys guys fit the Patriots Culture and so why not get a guy that the Patriots wanted? And he's also Michigan Guy. I think he did a fifth what they need. You know just the clearly need a lot of defensive health even though they did Patriot flowers last year. I you know I'm having can get I'm having them take the most patriots guy on the board a year early because you know. Let's be honest if Matt Patricia. Bob Quinn get their careers extended their they get their You know get another contract and don't get fired after this year. You know chase when adventures going to end up as a lion at some point just having them do it right now in our redraft. There's plenty night I just picture. They have like you know the Patriots Roster Whiteboard and just when they come free and just who they're going to target it's it's sort of staggering at this point. Just the idea that they're running kind of patriots by and be like you know bill. Belgium doesn't want him but he's still get enough to play. Yeah we want that guy. He's good I repair. I also think he's a really good player and yet the question coming into the draft And he's he's really like ball and God knows allies really like cool players so you know I think I think it would get allies and you know what the lions need to keep a really popular local Guy Home and that makes sense. I went with that Oliver here To the point for which I with Oliver. I think just you want to add an impact piece on your defensive line. I mean they just their masks. They need pieces everywhere on defense so. I think just adding the best available defensive player which to me at that point with Oliver Thought made sense for what the lions needed to do. But I you know I think whenever you think any of the pieces who were left. Could be an upgrade for the giants. They need literally literally everything I mean. Maybe they don't need a quarterback at this point but they just traded away their best cornerback so probably a good sign national unity. Cornerback what am I saying? They need everything they need. Every Fisher on Defense. Okay bills at nine the lions but the bills at nine. Who Do you have Bill Stadium so I'm going to have them taking wide receiver decay. Metcalf was the you know. I think they very clearly have been in the market for wide receivers. You know dating back to when they had you know. Antonio Brown for an hour in the nineteen off season you know Sunday. They'll be thirty thirty about that. Probably by the way Tony Brown you think about how much like now that we are in quarantine. How much time outside of quarantine you wasted or I wasted last year writing and thinking about Antonio Brown going to like five different teams for real. I know So yeah but very clearly. They've been in the wide receiver market. And I think he came back. He showed his rookie year at Seattle is that he's not just a workout warrior and that he's actually a really really good football player so I'm having him as the second receive retracted after. Aj Brown. And I'm having him go to Buffalo. I have the same logic but have nightmares the bills taking Carrie Mclaren where I feel like you can. Make a think exceeded. My expectations exceeded a lot of people expectations. And as you know physical force it. He was playing with Russell. Wilson and Terry McLaren was playing with Twain. Haskins and case. Keenum notice respect to those guys. But they're not you know. I think he's an author. They're not they're not on the same level as maybe the second best quarterback in football I think that McLaren on a different team would have been like national. A national highlight from last season. He was an absolute freak and had honestly a lot of places where he got open and his quarterbacks could not get him the football for what would have been a long touchdown. And you know. I think he's GonNa keep struggling with that. I think that offense is still going to be a work in progress but I think he is a guy who you know on the right team would be you know being seen now as a immediate superstar as opposed to kind of a guy who you know if you were stuck washing watching Washington games last year like you happen to live in the DC area guy who just flashed if you were playing fancy football or daily fantasy football on the right match ups or if you were unfortunately watching the occasional Washington game here and there but I think a guy who right right offense would be a absolute superstar already. I like it. I'm a I'm I'm okay with that movie. Yeah and you'll probably see Terry maclaurin on my left fairly shortly so we have the Denver Broncos hear at ten because the steelers in this scenario do not trade up so then Bush off the board of the steelers. Don't get their guy. They stayed put. Sorry who was a ten. It is the Bronco Coast. Okay right yeah yeah. It is the Broncos like last year. They traded back the steelers went up to Bush. They're the broncos traded. Doc took no offense just I got. Yeah no you're fine. We're we're on track here so you WANNA go first to the ground case. Sure okay so I have some taking and this might be a controversy. Pick taking joint Haskins Hari. This is in part because I want you to answer this question because you live in Denver area. You covered the Broncos for a long time. You are on the pulse of the fans are thinking and Denver. Why are we sure? Drew Lock as good. Like five games. Drew Lock Against Pretty Bad. Competition was enough for us to think he's the guy we're going to build around for sure like is that not to make a point about eight lakh to be a great quarterback after five games. He's not but he's by far closer than any of the other options that they've had since two thousand fifteen To being that guy you know. I think they're They really like everything that he brings. I think they like the complete package that he brings in terms of how his teammates respond to him the way that he works What they saw from how he kind of attack his rehab would. He had his wrist injury. That kinda size item for half of this year you know. I think they were way too conservative with him. Last year In terms of you know they probably could have brought back a little bit earlier and they didn't they end up playing a couple of games with Brandon Allen which still can't believe. That was the thing that happened last year. but You know I have you know they. They looked at Haskins last year You know they brought them in. They could have drafted him last year. You know I think they. They could've had him last year and they did not. I don't think I think drew lock was higher. I don't know the sure I'm trying to remember but I don't think they had entire on their board last year. They had drew lock. I do remember my favorite thing about that was Haskins when he does his top thirty visit. he came to Denver wearing a John Jersey that was like what his his choice of attire that he wore And I don't know. La was like flattered by dot enough for that was odd Odd or not so you know but I I like the idea of them taking Haskins you know. I think that they will take if we're redrafting. I think that they take a quarterback in the first round but I think they take to lock base. They are free or just you know. I was based on who they are. Who is still running that team? What they're looking for out of their quarterback. I think that they don't wait to take drew. Lock they just take him there at ten and make them their guy right away even though they had already traded for show. Which is another thing that happened. That seems bizarre to me that Joe. Flacco looking at Broncos Forum last year two things I will say number one. Do you remember when Nick when Joey Bosa went to the browns for his pre-draft meeting and he was in sweatpants and the browns were offended by him wearing sweatpants his draft meeting and really all he is is just way ahead of its time. Yes wearing pants meetings. I feel like if it happened now. We would be like. Oh Man of the people love to not like years ago it was like. Oh you defended the browns wearing sweatpants of course because he had a promise from the chargers and didn't care because the browser ever going to get to take him. But we didn't know that at the time number two to your point and I know I have to say this twin haskins six foot three drew lock six foot four true. I mean every inch account when it comes to Denver Broncos quarterback really. It really is true. Okay so eleven were sorry I just have to circle back to the joey both pants and this is why the browns or the Brown they fall to the guy for wearing sweatpants and Bill Belichick and the Patriots Have Patriots because they drafted Rob Gronkowski even after he decided to take a nap in the middle of history that if a player if a guy's really good you take him regardless of what he wore or whatever kind of quirky behavior he had a nice pre-draft visit. Are you listening to be honest with you at this point long? God and that was like three years ago. That was just to be fair. That was many many years ago at this point so the Cincinnati bengals cannot do worse than what they actually did. We don't know what to Italy is GonNa be as a prospect but he missed the entire season with an injury so anyone they pick who actually plays is a plus. Who Do you think the bengals would take at eleven? I'm going to have them take and I always mispronounces namely the elderly Jenkins Elton tickets. Okay we're again on the same page. But I think you're right. I think Elkin Jenkins is the appropriate way. I always mispronounce his name and I feel really bad about it because the yell at the beginning just throws me off but I think that they knew that they needed offensive line. And I don't think they were wrong to drop off into line and I think Jenkins was the best rookie offensive Lineman So I I happen going there although I was debating going there or going Defense and taking thornhill. The safety blended up with the chiefs because clearly the way that they've attacked read. You know until he got hurt at the end which to mazing that they were able to thirty census kind of able to recover and yeah we actually pretty decent and good and the Super Bowl without a guy who had ended up being. You know one thing a really important part you know secondary especially as they push in December so I was going back and forth ultimately I you know I have the bengals being kind of boring bengals and taking Jenkins but I think in a redraft situation. They'd look really hard at some of these back. Yeah I think that's totally fair. I have them taking an offensive lineman to and I just think for me. The best offensive lineman out of the Rookie Class. And this is you know splitting hairs. I don't think it's it's clearly one or the other. But I I haven't taking Eric McCoy The Saints Center. You had a great year and billy. They drafted on the first couple of years ago has not panned out McCoy. I could've played guard if price happened would have moved. Prices opposed to movie McCoy but they need offense. I'm in pretty much. Everywhere and McCoy had a great year for the saints who stepped in from week. One wasn't immediate starter held off northeastern who they signed originally to take over for Max Unger who had retired and just looked like he has a five year. Veteran from from week went on had to deal with drew. Brees getting hurt. You introduced from quarterbacks in there anything you could have asked for. I think he held up against and had a great season so same idea. I just think different offensive lineman but Jenkins makes total sense to I mentioned. Are The athletics redraft earlier? When I kind of Pan Vicks pick so our beat writer. J Morrison in Cincinnati and the redraw. He the bengals still taking jody Williams. Okay his argument was that How bad they were and you know kind of just like accidents. Tanking was worth it to end up with a number one overall pick this year so that if they were redoing it it would say just still be bad. Take the guy who isn't gonNA play and end up with a number one overall. Pick for twenty twenty that a really good idea. Can't I'm like I didn't think of it? That's all that's perfect. So that was that was Jay's In genius idea there and it's hard to argue with that logic right. That's really fair is hard to argue with that much it. Yeah that's a really good point. the packers and in twelve eighteen. That make the playoffs. Pretty happy would figure with the guys they take like one or the other selections are GonNa show up for me a little later on but I have them. Taking Noah fan the broncos tight end because I look at they needed receivers for Aaron Rodgers last year after Davante Adams they different guys Allen lazard stepped in from out of nowhere and they meaningful role but Jimmy Graham Grandma's not his old self. He was not even the guy he was in Seattle. He was an anonymous player making a lot of money and I think given how desperate teams are tight ends. Help given that. We've seen you know that market really teams are just absolutely Jimmy. Graham Gano tournament this year and Jimmy. Grandma's useless last year. Or How did the bears watches? Green Bay tastes and say yeah. That's the guy we WANNA give a two year contract with a lot of Garib guaranteed bunny tail. Yeah with a no trade clause. That's that's the craziest part of it's it's been no trade clause and you know there's no really impressive tight ends in this year's draft so I think the packers would consider pay. Let's get no offense. Let's get Aaron Rodgers now even if it is going to be two tight end sets with with grandma and fan. I think that's fine and I think that's going to be the guy who built around in the future when it comes to that tight end group and I think you know we saw you know off and on. They had some injuries. But I thought Noah Fan you know flash some pretty impressive plays for for the broncos this year. Yeah for sure. He got better as his as his rookie. Year went on a little bit. Some rough stretches with some drops early in the year but yeah I mean he's now very much part of the young offense of core that the Broncos have so the way my board has fallen though I'm going with Terry McLaren there. And when you said that if you know. He was in an offense with good quarterback He would be like a ridiculous star. so yeah. Mclaren's for the packers in that's redraft and man. That would be fun. That would be much more fun than watching him with Wayne Haskins case keenum. That's very fair. So the dolphins or thirteen. Maybe the other team that might qualify for the tank philosophy as they didn't have tanking throughout pretty much the entire twenty nine taste and until they accidentally got good over the final month of the year but needs pretty much everywhere. Who Do you have the taking at thirteen? Yeah I mean I think I think Christian Wilkins was fine for them there But in this redraft I'm going to have them take. Brian Burns pressure who got In Carolina I also looked at some defensive backs. They're you know one thornhill again Djemalidine But I'm going to happen. Taking Brian Burns is kind of the of the guys who are left on the board. The best rusher available. I haven't taking. That's crosby where Mexicans was a fourth round pick and maybe the numbers aren't going to hold up but again they need help everywhere. I think adding pass rusher place to start. Even the lack of quarterbacks available this may be one of the white receivers maybe decay metcalf or deebo. Samuel or Marquis Brackovic sense but I thought adding pressure makes sense. They added a bunch of young guys this year to kind of hope. One of them turns into a impactful. Pass rusher crosby wasn't impactful. Pass rusher in your one so I think I didn't cross you make sense. I actually have the Falcons at fourteen taking Brian Burns right after this. I thought Brian Burns honestly the first month of the year. He was as good as nick. Bosa he was phenomenal. The first month of the year any kind of slowed down after that panthers defense really sort of got lost in the weeds and really struggled but I thought he was. You know he was playing phenomenal football the first month of the year. And I think a guy who you know as we sort of. Look at this this twenty twenty panthers team and kind of figure out okay. Who's going to take a step forward and who's going to impress. I think Brian Burns is one of the guys who people are him. He could be one of the better. Pass rushers in that conference this year. So conversely we moved to the Falcons at fourteen and I have Matt Mack. Crosby going so clearly. Yeah so so yeah. I've gotten back crowd there. They very clearly need pass rushers in Atlanta And they should have taken. They should've taken from last year. And you could make the argument that they set. The thinking was right there last year with going ofensive line heavy and they just had some really bad. It's bad injury luck and that you know Chris. Lindstrom will be the great player their long-term for them but immediately I think tops Russia would have helped better and yes Max crosby. That's that's my guy for Atlanta instead. Yeah what do you think of? The rumors of the Falcons are considering trading up. I mean one hundred percent believe it because that's what Thomas from trump does does he. I mean he's one of the most active General managers in terms of trade and especially in trading up and and aggressive traits up. You know he's not just the guy who's GonNa like move one or two spots. I mean he will if there's a guy that he really wants to aggressively to what it takes to move highs so I'm not surprised at all that they're being very active and that they will be active So at this point I'd be surprised if they don't if they stay put where they're at but I just you know that he was not one player away I feel like I think they need a lot of help that I mean they every year. It's kind of like okay. If these six defenders to stay healthy we're going to be great and then you get hurt or or struggle or you know aren't very good and then it's like. Oh well loops then. You're playing guys off the street. Who aren't up to the task. And then if anything I feel like they should trade down but I think to your point. That's just not what Thomas Dmitri seems to do or think. Yeah I mean. To Dana's he's GONNA trade off. I mean you know. I'm not saying they're going to go all the way up to two or something like that but I would. I would be surprised if they don't if they don't make some sort of move up the board if they move up to. That would be crazy train. It'd be really fun though. It would be fun. That's true I want. I really want GonNa be awesome there. Oh sure it's great grady. Jarrett signed me up to like. What are you look at? What can they traded away their second round pick like they have to give how many first round picks what they do to make that. Happen Jones. I don't know that I never hear all into the wacky trades. We don't need to throw out your cowboys. Trai SCENARIO AGAIN. But very very logical trade for the cowboys. I've offended that you just otherwise it was I that was so funny about that is that I had so many cowboys fans angry at me. They can do think that Prescott socks. He's so good. I WANNA Stack Prescott. The cowboys should pay DAK PRESCOTT. A lot of money. But they haven't and I don't why it's not like prices go down. He's not getting cheaper. He's getting more expensive when Patrick mahomes contract DAK Prescott asking price is going up and if the cowboys don't want to pay the price that he is asking for now they're not going to like it a year from now either. So if you're on that that path and you're in that Kirk cousins scenario where you were just sitting there saying hey to franchise tax. I'm good I can go with free agency after these. Tv deals you want to make a trade. Now I'm not saying cool living off his like Yo. Yeah Cool Living Off his yogurt endorsement money and Mike host and Co host dinner parties for money. Like he's fine we we. We both had some pod with coverage fans as we cowboys had a rough week. All right. It's a fifteen. We have to Washington football team. Who Do you have them taking? I had a really hard time here. And they they need a quarterback So I had. I'm having them stay with Haskins adult. Love it. I really really really hard time. Here I put or Cherry Maclaurin if available but already put the Maclaurin off my board. He's not available. I mean maybe I'll come askins. He played better last year. But I think you start to figure that Carmen. She's going to be available in the second or third round. Yeah you know what I think would teams are looking at quarterbacks. They're always looking at what's their ceiling. And you know maybe half concealing his physical feeling higher I don't know I mean I. I like mintues a player better right now but I don't know I was. This is one that I had a really hard time. Which is why I I stuck with Haskins. Kind of like with a shrug emoji. Yeah I think that's fair. I think that's how they approach their team. Sometimes it's Emoji I went back and forth. I went back and forth between Josh Jacobs here and Deebo Samuel or became calf and the calf. Because I just figure Samuel was really good but I kinda feel like they needed or he needed Kyle Shanahan. They got the most out of him as a runner Which I think added significant value for him and I don't know that Washington would be in position to get the most out of deebo Samuel and his sort of unique skill set whereas became like a big strong receiver. Like he's easier to sort of game plan for then regained for an offense than people. Samuel and then just as good as Josh Jacobs was like. It's just value like I'd rather have a wide receiver letter runningback. So I think they need help on offense pretty much everywhere it could have been a spy for Jenkins it could have been a spot for TJ Hopkinson who would have a great Europe. Got Hurt and tight ends are so important but I think mechanics since you're adding a receiver to an offense that just needs help and so many different places that I don't hate that so last week. So it's you know it's very different now than they did a year ago. So I'M GONNA go. This is my one that I'm going like deepest and the draft. Pick here guy who moves up the most And I'M GONNA have them take J. Greenlaw the linebacker? Who's with with the forty niners? Who I think was really really good. He was on all the. You know the all rookie teams and everything. He was just round pick but he really became kind of this huge important piece about niners defense and knowing what we know now about the panthers defense and who. They need them. What type players? They need Linebacker it would be really really smart. Move there and I think he's I think he's a lot better than a fifth round pick. I'm having them that. This is my kind of my wildcard going way. Off Of what the the initial draft look like. But I'm GonNa have them take drudgery? Ma Be happy that makes sense I they have needs everywhere and defense so I see linebacker making sense I went safety darnell savage or the packers I think a guy who had a really impressive season injuries kind of slowed down a little bit but I think the guy who stepped in and looked like he belonged on a you know eight average. Nfl average defense. I guess for most of the year. I don't WanNa talk about the Niner's game when it came to. What defense did but that's a separate conversation? But they did cut eric read. They do have needs in the secondary. I think savage just gives them a playmaker and kind of a you know a leader. I think in the secondary the last year and hopefully guy who they can grow with. I think the team that you know kind of wants to build a defense that is up to their standards over the next two or three years. I think if they don't have burns wind up going elsewhere in both of our dress having savage kind of like you know a building block in the secondary which I think is a good place to start. Maybe he can be there Jamal Adams and become there but yeah cracker new leader like you said so. Yeah no I like that and I think we're kind of on the same page as you. They are completely changing their identity on defense return. Luke keithly the Post Boutique era though Yeah they they need some really young good defensive players personality so I'm okay without the condition. I thought there was offensive. Tackle Andre Dillard. I guess you know. I don't really understand their moves that they've made their this season. Yeah trading away trae Turner. I didn't really get that but So I could see them. Maybe we drop situation that they would have taken a pigging on offense of tackle there. It feels like a good place at sixteen to do that but I think defense is. The rate is the way to go such talking about the panthers and we're finishing up. Do you have any brief thoughts about the Christian? Mccaffrey Signing Yeah. I mean generally. I hate that the side of China running back two years before you have to. It's like they had to pay somebody right. I mean they have to have send that message to the rest of their roster to their fan base sixteen million if a lot but he is a really special and unique player. And I don't think we can look at Christian. Mccaffrey strictly running back Lens. And that's why he got the money that he's getting She told me twenty three which is like I mean I guess you know I guess you know trying to remember exactly how todd Gurley was when he got his extension two years ago. But you know we had to win the all decade. All Two thousand ten came out last week. We were doing roundtable discussing you know the clutch for like who's outside of what you know. Patrick Mahomes pick somebody to make the all twenty twenty team. And I I went we Christian McCaffrey. Even though I think it's extremely risky to pick a running back for something like that. But based on the fact that he's only twenty three years old right now and you know even if he's only house you know if it doesn't how they super long because he's a running back even if he has five or six good more years he's still in his twenties but I mean good for Christian. Mccaffrey to get to get that sort of ninety this early. You know he's going to be able to get another big deal. Probably you know by the time. Twenty six or twenty seven You know it's risky history. Shows that it's not going to pay off but you know at some point. I think they have to pay somebody. And he's the right guy to pay based on who they have left. I think I'm pretty analytics friendly. I think I'm someone who you know as opposed to paying running backs and I think in the long run but chances are they're gonNA regret paying this much money when they did but the thing I would say is like number one like how like. What can you ask him that he didn't do like? I think the the issue is once you pick him in the first drown if he fails the new screwed up and if he succeeds on you're stuck paying like you don't have a choice like I don't think they could credibly going. Start Locker Room and say hey look you were you know. Basically the entire offense last year and by the way. We can't pay you because running backs through kind of made that bed. You have to do that and then on top of that you know. I don't think this should be the biggest thing. But just if you're David Tapper and you're taking over this football team and you're looking at who the popular players in your organization. I look at you know who who. Who's jerseys are the fans wearing in the crowd? It's Cam Newton. He just cut leukemia. Just retired and Christian McCaffrey. Who here. We're not going to pay like you know I I just The big picture argument makes sense. I don't think Christian McCaffrey is going to be an exception. But I think once you got to this point you don't have a choice. You're stop like you have to pay the Guy. Because at the end of the day like like you create a scenario where if he was gonNA play while you have to reward him and they did and they paid him top of the market money because he's been the best running back in football the past two years so. I can feel right and Kim you of four hundred to. We're going to pay him at some point and it's better to just pay him now rather than go through let him hold out write this op these if there is an off season or have a very messy potentially hold out next year late exactly. So it's just you know you can. The big picture make sense. And I don't think you can stay McCaffrey. Mccaffrey is is definitely more of a receiver than any back. We've seen sign a contract in recent years but it's just there's not an alternative at this point. I think I think once the Bucci pick him in the top ten. You're stuck so we will see you. Don't drop running back from the top ten. Yes exactly why you don't take Josh Jacobs with the fourth overall. Pick which I feel fairly confident that nobody's GonNa take a running back in the top ten this year. They've got him and that's the top ten pick I you can never. Hopefully I'll be will overrule him. It'd be the Golden. Retriever would never dropped a running back in the first round. Abby could be a better GM if they get out of the question better than another conversation for another day Lindsay Jones Osa pleasure to have you on the show. Where can people check out more of the work you do over at the Athletic Dot Com? We've got a three month. Free trial going on right now so come on over. Read Oliver Stuff gained burglars. Draft Guide is insane and awesome so read it and make yourself show some smart during your dinner party next week awesome. Well Lindsey so pleasure thank you so much for coming on all right. Thanks so much to my guest today. The Athletics Lindsey. Joe's pleasure to have Lindsey on and we're GONNA come back next week another podcast for you. Probably pre-draft show if. I'm planning things right now but still a lot of stuff to get to and more. Nfl content to come in the weeks ahead. So Hooper staying healthy staying safe out there. Hopefully we can kind of distract you for a little bit with some. Nfl Talk but more of that coming next week. Thanks so much for listening.

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Gold Standard Ep. 1 - Kittle and 49ers still moving slowly on contract

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Gold Standard Ep. 1 - Kittle and 49ers still moving slowly on contract

"What is up everybody? Welcome to the very first edition of a gold standard niners nation podcast. I'm your host, Rob Status Guerrero alongside Levin Black, and we are very excited soon, be bringing you the latest. The forty niners. We've got a lot of good things lined up for this podcast. Levin, how you doing? I'm doing good been. Really. Slow off season, but we're getting close to that actual season hopefully. Normally, I would be saying I view in the air, you could smell it. It's time, but it's just feels different this year because of everything going on what we're still going to try and bring you obviously the best possible forty niners coverage Just really quick want to give you a quick intro to who we are I was at ESPN radio for about five years I worked on. On Mike and Mike then for the last five years, I was with pro football talk with Mike Florio producing his show, and while I was doing that last year I was a part of the forty niners webs on podcast, and now I'm sort of leading things here on the niners nation podcast side of things and the the sort of my experience eleven is basically king of the north. I'll take that. That's actually. My brother would be disappointed to hear that because during the so quarantine, he's been growing out his hair and facial hair to try to look like Jon snow, but I'll tell you. I'll let him know that that King of the north is reserved already. I'm grateful Lavon was with me on the forty niners web zone podcast and I'm grateful that you decided to follow me here and become part of niners nation. I couldn't pass up the opportunity to continue to burst your bubble. Thanks. So yeah, that's basically the show in a nutshell. Is I get crazy about things and Levin makes fun of me for and tells me why I'm vastly overreacting. Or why you shouldn't like. Madden. Football. which yeah, you're crazy about it's coming out pretty soon by the way, but we're looking to build a great lineup for you. Like I said, we want to have a little bit of something. No matter what kind of fan you are every day of the week, we're gonNA have different content whether it's reaction to games or film breakdown a reaction to the press conference each week, we wanna be your goto place for everything right and gold, and that's why we are the gold standard podcasts so. Now that we've got that out of the way, let's get into the meat of the show. Three things that we're gonNA talk about in this episode I, more news about the George Kitto contract. His agent says, there has been quote minimal progress in talks with the team Steve Young things. This year will prove if the forty niners are for real and can be a contender going forward and last, but not least von Kindle. How look so far? What? What are the teammates saying about them and basically, can we believe it at this point? So let's dive right into it. Levin Kill, and the forty niners have not been moving as fastest. Certainly, some of the fans want with the contract talks. Every little bit of Info we seem to get from. Mike. Silver puts these negotiations in sort of a negative light. Where do you think they are with Kiddo right now? Where do you think it goes going forward? Well. Recently, I learned some things that I can't. Share publicly the kind of changed my opinion. I'm. All. I can really say is I more firmly in kittles sight of this. Then the forty niners, which is kind of surprising because you would think the forty niners would step up and basically just pay the man. What? Just just tell us just you and me. Yeah because it's not really my info to share somebody told me, and this is why you should take it with a grain of salt. We all know this niners regime is very tightlipped So I'm not saying one hundred percent, it's. It's the way it is, but I was told something that was told to somebody else from somebody who had no So take it for what it is, but I am much more firmly in Kittles side of it. Do. You think that most fans will agree with you like I think that there comes a point where even though everybody loves George Kitto like at some point does begin to turn and the fans start saying, Hey, man, the niners WanNa make you the highest pay tight end of all time and they think you're great and you want more than that. You're being too greedy. I think if they got all the Info at least from what I've been told, they would side with Gidel but it's also close enough to where it could be spun and depending on how it comes out and who tells what? If it ever comes out It could also go to the niners. I have no idea what you just said. I'm saying there's some finite. It's more in the. Details of the negotiations of Wyatt goes to kill them in the grand scheme numbers. But. I. Feel like that's never really gonNA come out, right? Because they're going to end deal done eventually, and then there'd be no reason for any of it to come out or they don't get a deal done and the forty niners are going to be in full spin mode at this point, trying to paint George Kitto as greedy gusts. And people are going to not believe anything coming out of. Kittles Cam. Yeah minute. It really goes two ways when it comes to this and it's that he get straight, he gets a big contract from somebody else. Now, the one way that this could go to the capital side is if the contract he signed with the other team is lower than expected and they go. Well, if that's what he got, why did niners give it to them? Not One way that I could see kiddle looking good in this, but I mean I I do think something gets done. The both sides are content with because. This more. So than a lot of negotiations that get to this point. Both sides are better off together. KITTLE is going to give more opportunity. He's going to look better have more of a chance at a hall of fame career being paired with Kyle Shanahan meanwhile. The niners very much need. George biddle, especially, his blocking in the run game because he makes an outside zone blocking scheme so much better. Here's a one thing I don't get. Kittles side, and this is according Mike Silver is pushing the idea that great you WanNa. Make us the highest pay tight end. But we're more than that. We're more than a tight end and I would argue no at based on what? What is it tight on? Have to do catch the ball and block really well, and kittles awesome at both of those things. But isn't that what he's supposed to be? Awesome. What is the argument that he's more than tied at? Because you don't, you don't find guys who are not only one of the best blocking tight ends in the NFL. But also one of the best receiving tides Y-, you guys who are considered potential hall of famers in a Travis. Kelsey. Who is a tremendous receiver and a below average to average blocker depending on who you ask, it's very, very rare and I would argue at this point in time, he is probably the most complete tied in. We've ever seen because we've never seen a tight end who can block this well and received this well, which is why especially your? People who studied game film? In the NFL rave about him so much because on film he does stuff that no other tight end has been able to achieve. But those are still part of your job as a tight end like he's I. He's not doing anything that. Tight ends don't do. He's just doing the things they do really. Well, you could say that for any position Patrick. Mahomes, isn't doing anything quarterbacks aren't supposed to do. He's just doing a lot better than anybody else me. What are they doing moms? They made him the highest paid quarterback ever. So there you go. Got I don't know. Obviously, I want you to be a part of the team I bought a kindle Jersey. Last year was the first forty NINERS JERSEY? I've paid for. I bought in years from last one was a Frank Gore Jersey so that I'll tell you how long ago. It's been stipe. Wada Jersey I, want them to get this. But. You know being in this business now for fifteen years, I also kind of side with. If. They don't get it on like they can win without him. They'll find a way they can, and that might be where the niners sitting that they. Hey, we add the offensive genius of a coach who can manufacture offense and he doesn't necessarily need and all world tight end. That's more of a luxury than what's necessarily needed in this offense and to be honest if this drags the season. And somebody like Brandon, ao looks like the real deal kit alluded a little bit of leverage because Shanahan an even more. Hey, we don't necessarily need him. We can find somebody who's good enough a tight end. And we now have their receivers to make his offense go. Do you think that there was a little in the back of Shanahan's mind like, Hey, let's sign Jordan Reed. If things are crazy with kill I, mean, say what you want about read. He has injury issues for sure concussion as but he's talented. He's a very good player, not saying George kittle. But I wonder if Shanahan's like I can take a guy like Jordan Reed and put up similar stuff to what George has been doing. They'll be a hit in the run game side of it, which is obviously. Much more valuable to the niners than almost any other offense because they run so much especially involving the tight end being part of where the whole is going to be. But yeah, I mean I would say that that was the small part of the signing. I think a larger part of it was the niners want contended contingencies and quality backups anywhere. They can get it due to the unknown of Kobe. What happens George Gidel. Has To, quarantine for two weeks. You. Don't WANNA have a rookie low round draft pick. And a guy who's not really a receiving Titan, you know you want that back. and. We're going to get into sort of where the forty niners stand in terms of dealing with Cova this season and something Steve Young said that really I thought kind of crystallized. where he thinks the forty niners are and where they could go in the years to come that and more coming up after this. Support for this podcast comes from state farm with pricing. Great rates, state farm, is the real deal when it comes to home in car. Insurance. State. Farm agents are in your neighborhood ready to help personalize your insurance and you can manage your coverage, pay your bill or even file a claim right from your phone with the state farm mobile APP visit state, Farm, DOT com today to get a great rate without sacrificing great service that State Farm Dot Com when you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm is they're. All right. Next up, I want your take Levin on something. I saw from Steve Young. He was at a virtual event to honor the late Great Dwight Clark, and he said quote that will be tested this year and it will be fun to watch regarding the forty niners whether they can repeat. He said because if they can withstand that scrutiny in that intensity, that's when you think, oh, we're going to be great for a long time because that's a big filter, a big hurdle to get through. If they can do it this year, you gotta think that they can do it every year for four or five years now. The niners will definitely be the hunted and not hunter this year. Do you think that what Steve Young said holds up if they can do this year that they will sort of established themselves for the next five years as one of the elite teams in the League. I, think it could. It's obviously one of the most difficult things to do and Steve would know he was part of that seventeen year run of ten plus wins every single year for the forty niners, and that is like I said a very difficult thing to do, and we have seen time and time again in NFL, history teams come up they. They get a twelve thirteen when season. Maybe they don't quite make the super bowl like the niners dead. But they they make some noise. They're young everybody says, Hey, this is a team to be reckoned with for years to come, and then for one reason or another, they break apart and they only only ended up having one or two years over a five year period where they actually even made the playoffs I mean it. It happens, and this is the year that will kind of answer that question for the forty niners, one of the things i. I thought was interesting Kyle. US check said on. Tuesday, he pointed out that so many parts of this forty niners lineup are so versatile that they basically have a team full of interchangeable parts. So if something did happen with with one of the running backs and covert or maybe one of the wide receivers that there are so many guys that sort of have redundant skills that they can sort of keep the train rolling a little bit I. Actually thought that made a lot of sense. Yeah. It does and I, think that's part of that is by. By design, and we saw that a lot last year I. mean how many different positions on the offensive line briscoe play and it's already been talked about in training camp that he is still getting some work at center and tackle even though he's expected to be the starter at guard, and it's because they know if there's an injury there, he's GonNa slide over. But you know say there's an injury to mcglinchey or train Williams briscoe would likely move over to tackle because it's the more important position and somebody else would plug in the guard spot so. The niners are aware of that, and I, think that is one of the things they look for when they're drafting for that positional versatility. One of the guys he mentioned was Jerick Mckinnon and I feel like we've we've been on this train before Levin like I, I keep hearing about Jerick McKinnon, how good he looks and how good he of big A. A party can be in this offense lining up in the slot catching balls out of the backfield. All that stop and Juerg McKinnon has not played a single snap for the forty niners in two years. Are you buying jet stock right now while I'm glad you said jet stock because you said train earlier. Okay, and it's not a train. It's a jet. But a I would say, I'm making a small by I. Do believe that from what all the all the players have been Kinda raving McKinnon looks like the real deal he's not been hampered. He hasn't really lost anything due to the injuries, which is certainly possible. We've seen guys who have. All this talent, all this athleticism. They have a couple of knee injuries and they come back and everybody's older finally healthy, and then you see him on the field for the first and you go there. That's not the same guy at certainly seems like jet is the same guy as before which was a guy. They had an off the charts spark score and was a guy that was able to be A. Maybe not a dynamic runner, but a dynamic receiver as a running back, and that is really big for Kyle Shanahan. We we saw in the past where he said, he had all these plays designed for jet in the passing game that he had to rip out of his playbook when he got injured that first year. So, if he's finally out yet to big thing, but we all know his injury history. So I want to buy in because of what people are saying, but this is more of a I'm going to buy a small amount. I'm not buying it. All the niners are buying stock in two rookies, and you've talked a little bit about Brandon and also divine Kenley and something else you Shek said on Tuesday that I thought was interesting. He pointed out that. So, many of the guys are coming back that they're not starting from square one with this offense, and even though you might think that would be tough on a rookie use check basically said when everyone around you sort of knows what they're doing already one, it puts pressure on you to figure it out, but also it helps you figure it out because. The water's not muddy. So to speak, you can look around and other people and see what they're doing, and that will help you figure out what you're supposed to be doing and I never thought about it. That way 'cause I always thought, hey, it's going to be tough for the rookies. Sheridan system is really difficult to learn Yada. Yada but juice kind of gave me a little different perspective today, and now I'm sort of more optimistic that these guys can contribute right away. Right I. Mean It. It's almost like having a teacher's aide but having multiple of them when you have guys who have multiple years in Kyle Shanahan system. Or an Robert saunas system, they can help you almost like a teacher's aide. Hey. If you have a question, Hey, if you're walking into you not hundred percent sure they receive or next to you saying it this you know or whatever, and it certainly helps you and. In this season coming up where you could see a lot of guys playing that otherwise wouldn't do to covert reasons. It could be a really big advantage for the forty niners and no preseason game kills me because part of me is like Oh. That's so bad for these guys to knock it that experience. Is. Like. S. Jalen. Hurd is not going to get hurt and a preseason game. This year trend Taylor's knocking. Re break his foot. You know like I'm. Part of me is Kinda like. Keep these guys sort of in bubble wrap until week one, and then we'll roll the dice and take our chances. Right. For once we're actually see these guys on the field assuming there's not a training camp injury which they're limited to a certain extent on how much they can be doing together. So, there's less chance of an injury but. You're going to see her on the field even if he eventually gets hurt on the real field, but you're going to see those guys and that's exciting because we haven't seen those guys I mean. We've been hearing what this year three now on the jet hype. This is your to on the heard hype. This is year three of going and we'll Trent Taylor was Jimmy Garoppolo favorite target. He could be a really big key to the niners offense. Well, now, we finally get to see it on the field assuming all those guys make it, which I think all three of those are pretty safe bets a little more on Kin, law. Because I've seen a lot of praise from praise of him from Eric, Armstead, nick, Bosa sets of nick both said, he's a good kid which is funny because both of the age difference between them is like twenty days literally. But I'm trying to be cautiously excited here because I remember last year. The praise for Nick. Bosa was people were going not saying the same thing. He's really good. He doesn't look like a rookie which I've heard people say about kin law. Am I crazy. If I start to think like, Hey, maybe this guy could be an impact player. You're one erling. It's crazy to think that, but I do think it's People should maybe temper their excitement and the reason I say that is not because I don't believe in him not because I wasn't excited to watch the film on him when he was coming out and the niners drafted him. But because a lot of that praise is saying while he's a huge guy, I'm so amazed at how big he is. While defensive line isn't necessarily about size. A lot of it's about technique Minero. Donald is not the biggest defensive tackle. He's actually on the small side for defensive tackles. He dominates because of his burst and because of his techniques. That is big as anything. So. I'm Kinda I, had been seen that hype and I I've been kind of trying to keep my mouth shut about it because I don't want to squash people's hype dreams when there's been so little going on, but a lot of the hype has just been about how big is. That doesn't really mean a whole lot. Levin Black Rusher of dreams. I will say the one spot on the niners defense where I feel like you could run was up the middle, and that's where buckner was I mean that was his spot. So if Kinloch, can at least be a more stout up the middle, that'd be something that I don't think it's crazy to think that it would be an improvement over over deforest buckner. And I wouldn't necessarily say deforest buckner was the reason the running up the middle was able to be done. A lot of injuries on that other defensive tackle position for rundowns because obviously armstead rotated to the outside on rundowns and arms dead on the outside. For obvious. Rushing downs is phenomenal in that role because he's really big for defensive end and then you had nick Bozon the other side. Well, you're not. You're not running that nick, Nick Boza, you're running away from him. So the obvious answer was go. Go right up the middle and with the niners being in the white nine technique, it's easier to run up the middle. So I know how much he's going to help in that regard or the other guys coming back healthy. Hopefully, they were injured last year, the defensive tackle position because part of it is just by the way in which they line up. There's not anything you can do about that. Yeah. Wouldn't it be terrible if the niners defense was just as good as they were last year. Okay, go ahead and run on on the niners. See how that works out for you in the offense is going to score on the other side of that. That's the thing when you're a really good team, a lot times you're leading and the other team can't really just run the ball. Yeah. That's an this niners defense is so set up for that scenario like that is exactly the game. They WANNA play get a lead on you early and then you. You have to pass the try and catch up that defensive line in that front seven is just gonNa just gonna eat because that's exactly what they're designed to do. Especially, if D, Ford can play more than twenty percent of the snaps right it. It reminds me of a team that dominated throughout the two thousand and I don't like to throw it out there because I quite honestly hated this team because it was the local team when I was growing up. and. I got sick of hearing all their stuff and they ended up on the winning one super bowl but. They very much are alike, the Indianapolis. Colts of the early two thousands they WANNA get a lead and when they get a lead, they got Robert Mathis and they got white for any coming off those edges and good luck holding up when those guys can just speed rushing come at you or do you do the patent spin move white for any? If you give a green light Nick Boza, Andy for coming off the edge good luck, and that's by design, you get dominant edge players and you have a good offense. There's GonNa, be a lot of games where you're playing with the lead and the offense isn't going to have a chance to come back on the other side. The crazy thing about Bo says, he doesn't have a patented move, isn't a patented spin move? He a wins every time. Let's. His patented moves being a man child being more. I'm a guy is just from top to bottom. There's no weakness whether it's you talking technique or his body. You know he's not. He's not somebody that's all his strength in his legs or all his strength and his upper body in. If you get low on him, you can move him. He doesn't have that He. He is somebody that literally. Since, probably birth has been getting molded by his family of football people to be what he is. and. Did you see that I don't know if you've seen any of the quotes from him? Basically, he's like I've been doing for the past six months is working out. I didn't have to worry about like the combine draft proper. Any of that stuff. He just basically been like in a garage somewhere working out with Joey Bosa every day and he he said himself, he's been working. Working on stuff and he knows last year, he said I would win a lot of my rushes and I still wouldn't wouldn't seal the deal wouldn't get there for the sack. So he knows exactly where he needs to improve just picture him like in a garage like rocky style training montage day for six months, and if he's better than he was last year I mean look out. If. Last year was a nick. Bozo. Out a whole lot mean. Man, I want some of those genes cause. I don't work out and I. Don't look like that. Do you think latch years the worst Nick Bosa that will see. No I mean, we had all it. It's possible, but he had a year where. From a lot of the people were saying, he shouldn't be in defensive rookie of the year conversation. He should be defensive player of the year conversation. You people have down years. Injuries can happen the console you down and he's going to age. So it's not the worst we've seen and I think he is a guy. The niners are GonNa make stick around for ten years? They're gonNA pay what it takes to keep that guy around for his entire prime. You know. Wouldn't we have said about George Kettlebells to where we are. Time will tell. Time will tell and I i. think it's different having an offense of coach who is very confident in his ability to create offense regardless of what players. Yes. I mean Kyle Shannon. The guy that came into his first year ago, and yeah. Sure. I'll roll with Brian. HEUER's my quarterback. That has to be part of it too. Though, right? Like Shinhan is not breaking down, John Lynch is door pound the table saying we gotta have this guy, get this done whereas you're saying, you think for Knick Bosa, he would because he's like you can't manufacture a Nick Bosa you either a born with this ability or you're not whereas he thinks he can sort of jerry rig things for the offense. I think there's only two positions on offense that, Kyle? Shanahan would say I'm going to pay if I get somebody of quality there, and that's your offensive tackles and your quarterback. That's. That's a unique situation. I think and. I will say, everybody's saying all the niners gonNA, extend juice. I'm not one hundred percent convinced. It depends on what his numbers because I think there are there at a different stage. Now, they had the luxury of paying that much for a full back in the past the there at that point where they're not, they don't have that luxury anymore and they're gonNA have to make some tough. Tough decisions, and that might be the one that make. But I do think Kyle Shanahan prioritizes if I get good quarterback, I'm not letting them go and if I have good tackles, I need them for this offense and because he does have a unique offensive tackle, he needs somebody that's not only good. But his athletic enough to be running down the field and blocking due to his. One more thing. You just made me. Think of I know we didn't talk about this ahead of time. So we saw the niners give up pick to get drunk. Williams? We saw the niners give up to multiple picks to get Emmanuel Sanders. Given the fact that we don't know the state of football right now just on. Tuesday. The big ten said, there's not going to be any football. The PAC twelve says, there's not going to be any football. There may not even be a college football season given that fact. If, we get two, week, three, week four and something's missing for the forty niners. Do you think they're more likely to try to pick for next year just because you know? Who knows what the draft is? GonNa be an scouting situation is going to be so they may do you think they'll say, hey, we'll give you a second round pick or maybe even a first round pick I. think it's a little bit more likely, but you also don't WanNa. Just assume that the draft is GONNA be bad. I. Mean. I think every team, every front office has a lot of confidence in their scouts in. It's not like missing one season changes. Everything that you've seen before. It's not like you know, say basketball where. That one season might be the only season that guy plays in college. You got other years that you can look at film and. Yes. It's a disadvantage. If a guy didn't play that next year, you know you can point to Joe Borough nobody thought he was going to be a first round pick prior to the season and he ended up being number one overall. But some film out there. You can get some idea and I think every team has confidence in their scouts, but I will say. Or argue that the PAC twelve doesn't even play football anyways. I'm a big ten guy. So I got say that I knew it was gonna be a pack of. Waiting for it. Yeah, take that I. Know Niner fans are by enlarge packed twelve fans, but I grew up ten country. So I know what real football's like. They ain't going to be playing real football is all. 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REShow: Joey Bosa. Hour 2 (10-29-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Joey Bosa. Hour 2 (10-29-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcast and podcast one okay this is a thirty second commercial title and I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you but please stay with me and just fifteen minutes you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance this company's been offering great rates and great Sir Joey Bosa when he joins but go for it is our poll question that we've been asking brought to you by our friends again at capital one When John Bell who has responded to the trade rumor conversation on twitter we'll get to that tweet in a second and friendly him the exits are here here here every okay there you go so the late add you are going to try and open savings or checking account don't go anywhere except capital one because they offer savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimum zits banking Ryman that with him not a chance okay not doing even though I'm feeling good about my wolverines Jerome Bettis is going to get a hat from us that I got us so is on the air live from the at studios in beautiful lovely on the Los Angeles California We've got a late add is Joey Bosa from Los Angeles chargers he'll be joining us in the middle of this hour and I will say this right here and right now there's no way and meanwhile de'andre is tweeting out a videos of himself as the blue genie from Aladdin right now is Halloween costume spend some time this week to make up that says I should've Gone Michigan he's gotTa wear it on the field at Notre Dame with touchdown Jesus behind him that's coming it's going to happen and it's delicious away in the NFL gotta get get good in is repealed see if a deal gets made and there's a lot of names that are out there including a late add to the rumor mill today they gave for Laremy Tunsil but you gave up once for Laremy Tunsil to protect your quarterback to find somebody liked the Andre Hopkins's a difference maker at the position you are our guest list okay just had our of the Monday morning quarterback on our show talking about everything going on with the trade deadline that is just three hours getting set to go to London this weekend I'm calling his game if he's still with the Texans so that's what I'm looking at on my phone so I guess you never had sorry for all the numbers and in five four three two one amount of time our number two are the rich Eisen show sources telling him bengals making a quarterback change after the bye week Andy Dalton to the bench Ryan Finley gets to go and he had a great I don't think they're doing I who knows what the bengals are doing and that's boy that's part of the reason why we asked our poll question which I think I'm going to ask just delicious and news just out of Cincinnati what's the news out of Cincinnati Chris on their by week. What's going on Tom Paul sorrow NFL network and Deandra Hopkins is apparently in the ether who he that they're taking calls no plans to trade him long chase young leads the way fifty percent Joe Borough second twenty six percent to twenty four everybody sleeping onto it unless we asked this question sleeping on a guy he's been the preseason we'll see what Zack Taylor can do them so trait Ambi you don't trade A. J. Green right now do you trade Andy Dalton intern from Capitol on one of the best needs savings rates in America to what's in your wallet what do you have over there Christopher who you taken first overall next year's NFL draft to Joe Borough Chase no plans until play throws a one at you how is your plan what's the plan I know they need to replenish to that he since he sliced up Georgia a couple years ago on a scene that's why can't stay healthy he's got injuries last two seasons is to be acquired by a team that has a coach that's not going anywhere an offensive system that's been entrenched that can be taught to him or feels that I'm taking the approach of no plans but we'll take the calls right see if you blow us away go for it Chris y but e let's ask this question maybe in two weeks if they beat Lsu we'll see how that goes or we'll ask it again and see if Joe Borrow wins it you know if you if you take in this show you know where big rose and fans here I still my I think they've honestly if they if they want to Ryan Fitzpatrick just starts throwing five interceptions in a game or gets hurt I don't think you're gonNA see him for the rest of the season Andy I just don't think Rosen deserves a chance fortunate development for him what's going on Miami unbelievable there's a lot going on Falcons released Matt Bryant you could still vote on this correct got I don't think his lunch changes if his uniform changes very concerned by the way Don Boyer he's still also have two hours left here and Orange County California has been hold on forbid let's take his phone call here on the rich Eisen show what's up Andy Mr is in our you suited to him and he gets he just he's there I don't think anybody's going to acquire him and say you are star from week one next year I think that's that's an UN sob on bells react reaction twenty six minutes ago was hey guys So I need some help should I have a Burrito or sandwich for lunch he did throw out doing fantastic so my take him dolphins should take chase young and then get them linemen and give Rosen the chance boy you know we I'm saying what they have in Josh Rosen why are they not playing them I mean write your own eight now so you have to figure out benched he's such a great guy he is it is his thirty second birthday wow like he new England patriots you've got the Houston Texans who take on New England on a Sunday night football at home in week thirteen they don't have jj Watt I don't know if you think get to my four downs here Chris we have that Lebanon Bell tweet again he's he's been out there today Monique Meta who's been covering the jets if he's the guy unless they've already figured out your own seven pardon me and and you give them an eighth loss but it's coming no I I you know I I don't I think that ships unfortunately sailed for Josh forever today in New York City he threw out there what rich Simeoni who's been covering ESPN the jets for ESPN for while he says that the jets are again ever had that on their resume. Wow analyst says we all know hasn't won a playoff game because the last quarterback of the coordinating producer just let us know it's Andy Dalton's birthday today no way Happy Birthday from Cincinnati Bengals coaching staff Andy Dalton you're break that's why the Ravens have got to win this one they would be just a game behind New England with that twenty thousand votes did he set the deadline for Eastern now this headline in the he just waiting for our standard twenty four hour changes teams eight wins right now no other team in the AFC currently even has six the most wins any other team has had in the AFC else are currently having five wins they don't face the Patriots at all so a team that currently has five wins with an opportunity to take on the more and I think the dolphins if anything they need to get linemen anyway no matter who they pick for a quarterback thanks for the call appreciate it what Rosen needs Sunday night football Seattle's at San Francisco on Monday night football those are some interesting dates to circle right now then fast forward a week see currently because they haven't either played eight games yet or because of injuries in the case of the Kansas City chiefs is five that's it and the chiefs are current house in other words the one seed and home field advantage throughout the entire AFC playoffs could be on the line on Sunday night out a poll question on this Burrito or sandwich do you have a preference sandwich you yes oh Sandwich only pulling twenty eight percent right now wow seventy two percent burrito with the five and three they do take on the New England patriots later on in the season when they go visit New England in week fourteen the Indianapolis Colts does not once we're done with the regular season week fourteen is pretty darn big you've got the forty niners you've got the forty niners at the king on Seattle at home on Sunday night football they visit Dallas Week Sixteen is huge folks you got one big one per day because that's when Saturday football new England to now lose four times over the last seven games for you to have New England come visit twelve week dozen the packers are at San Francisco and week twelve finishes up with Seattle at Philadelphia on Sunday night football is this huge just absolutely huge you're probably sitting there saying thanks rich appreciate you're going out on such a very Catholic there but here's where I'm backing it up patriots had Roland Saints and then on Sunday night football Seattle's at the ramps by the way how big was that kick that Greg Mix missed because if he had made it the rams would currently sure that New England visits you in January if they don't win it New England's nine and all your five and three and union they have the ability to go ahead and beat New England and then make sure that New England loses two more games so they could use that tiebreak to make your New England has to visit them tiebreak in their back pocket Baltimore you WanNa go to the super bowl this year you would be who've yourself to win this game and make football that's how huge this game is second down down all right well we're looking over the steering wheel at the second half of the season right now winner go home or important for one of those teams it's San Francisco at Seattle that might have to be an NBC game as I'm currently looking over the steering wheel it's just maybe starting this week or even with Patrick mahomes coming back to beat New England later on this year and then make sure that New England loses to more time so they could exact that eighteen hot take my fourth down take ten when team is not gonNa make the playoffs in the NFC so here's some key dates for you right now week ten Minnesota's Dallas on like you could pick up the flag on an offensive pass interference but they don't pick it up and this week in Indianapolis Frank Reich challenged a pass interference starts week sixteen the rams at the forty niners is a Saturday game then a Sunday game fresh I'm imagining late in the window no through eight weeks but that second third down don't even try reviewing replay anymore just don't do it don't do it I mean it's they actually instituted one it was the first one in five weeks so I I if I'm a coach and I it's not called or it's called I'm moving on cowboys at Eagles in week sixteen and then on Monday night the finale of your Monday night football season is Green Bay at Minnesota Nice game and then one guy for the last two years understand why people have gone to sleep on this guy there you go I don't understand why you didn't highs mania has won a national championship since six and to the seahawks will be five and three completely reverse than the situation behind San Francisco right now then you've got week fifteen the rams after here we go down I down Sunday night football for week number nine on NBC between the Patriots and Ravens we sense about cody sensabaugh the broncos grabbed him no flag right challenged it the actually put a flag for pass interference the replay for an AFC championship game somewhere. The fact that Kansas City did last year didn't work out anyway Kansas City have the horses with Matt Morgan at the NFL just wants no has no interest in doing anything with replay on lasts as egregious as last year's NFC championship game and the a home for Buffalo but after that a Thursday night short week game home against Pittsburgh for Miami at Pittsburgh home for Cincinnati Hey that everything's swirling around the team right now but my fourth-down heartache the Cleveland browns will win their next six games in Kennedy Bengals when a playoff game is on CBS it is not named Tony Romo Gary for four downs here on the rich Eisen show hit it Mike delightful downs with rich around the soft part of their schedule coming up and I said even with them coming off the bye New England obstacles finding the Cleveland browns even the way the browns looked in New England is call it was non as a non call one placed on the field via replay and with ty Hilton on a crossing route is is that this was not at all the way it was discussed with us in the media throughout the the the summer and and to the credit I think of the NFL they tightened let's take a look at some key dates that are already emerging in the national football conference where things are very very tight I've already said my previous four downs it could have been last week that attendance doesn't finish up but that's a big game on Sunday football reason why is if Seattle and Philadelphia don't win their division that could be a tie-break as to who makes the playoffs and I missed a ton of kids coup okay so they're going with them there's a lot going on but there's no trades just as no big trade and Landry's guy over the Middle Cleveland browns she win the next six games this isn't so damn hot belittlement of bolts here on instant replay with pass interference but it's just not happening and the reason why I'm saying that is we saw another one last night where it looked if Bosa of your Los Angeles chargers wonder what he thought of Mitchell trubisky taking a knee with forty-three seconds left bet you didn't expect that eight four four all right you know I think I'm GonNa back your play in follow the action on this don't follow the action your final NFC currently right now we're going on the show steering wheel key date might be game to fifty six when you're looking at week seventeen bet no w. two two three eight six six nine to receive your fifty percent welcome bonus don't sit on the sidelines this summer for Major League Baseball to the women's ag your online sportsbook experts Joey Bosa will be calling in shortly but let's take some calls here on the program John in Long Beach California just heard me World Cup and all things UFC bet online dot ag has you covered visit bet online dot ag and don't forget to use the promo code podcast wine bed online six straight really that's their next six they should win them all buffalo's tough but Baker Mayfield needs I'm moving on right now and until the League configuring John Comparison on Monday night football last night until the league is all buttoned up all on the same page right now as to what WanNa go let it ride each game with you here all right we'll take your phone calls including I'll take your phone calls including that of one her so I appreciate your support but you're way off patiently John John the Denver broncos okay the Denver is the only quarterback in the history of the NFL to have started a season eight and now and now to start a season onate unbelie nobody's aw win their next six games all Lori Okay we're taking on next up in Denver what Brandon a hot plank take or backley cake tank okay for ease my way into it reverting wiser I said this a couple of weeks ago and I'm going to back it up IC- after that you should be able to beat Pittsburgh a couple of times with Miami in Cincinnati winless teams on the other side of that I mean that's honestly John Broncos can put together four quarters we know that for sure okay they beat the the they beat down the bears right and then they went ahead and you've got pardon me the Denver Broncos went ahead and they've got Cleveland coming in they took care of Indianapolis for almost all the whole game go for it your phone calls when we come back this summer there's only one trusted place that lets you get in on all your favorite sports betting action that online DOT AG sign up today wake-up dangerous when Josh Jalis chosen six picks afternoon strolls into town wakeup dangerous final dealt Beckham Unleash Myles Garrett Oh man out there in Cleveland named Darrell Writer I'll give you shout outs and she gave me a shout out on your twitter feed about the six game win streak I just mentioned for the rest of two thousand nineteen certainly saying I'm saying that would before Joey Bosa call in and about a few minutes time I'm not gonNA definitely not taken that Bay I'm going to say it's definitely happened a free account at Bet online dot ag and use Promo Code podcast one for your fifty percent off welcome bonus or text bet now two three eight six six nine that's and I said a couple of weeks ago when they were a mere two and four going into their by week that I'm okay with the Cleveland browns still still okay with the Cleveland Bliss again to the point where the rumors were hot and I think Joe Douglas did reach out to Daniel say why don't you leave what you're doing come aboard with me and let's be my my VP. Amy took care of Tennessee not the the bears I understand they could do that but you should be able to beat them with a with a quarterback who has never started before then buffalo coming in is issue comes back in week ten in after this game and Denver Kareem on joins Nick Chabot should hold onto the football and the backfield Jarvis they haven't won more than four straight in the expansion era last time they won five zero Belichick was the coach in ninety four have to go all the way back to nineteen take a hot take plank saying that the turn turn your radio down John just heard me say that that the browns are GonNa win is going to be on tomorrow's show he couldn't make today show of because he was doing his move the sticks podcast and he is tight with jets general manager Joe no I know I'm certain thanks for the call John I'm I'm Gonna I'm GONNA retire from making friendly wagers I mean that's that's a that should be done that's six wins I'd be willing to make your friendly wager you know we could do a that's why I made it a fourth down heartache yeah it's hot and after I said that I appreciate him listening out there I saw on twitter he's a radio hot take plank did you write down those words you don't miss it I didn't off the time just terrific eased into it you said fourth-down heartache then you said the plenty on is that his name Brandon Allen Allen never heard start that's a win then next up for Cleveland after that this one concerns me home against Buffalo risk for over seventy five years in anytime you need help you can speak to one of their trained specialist twenty four seven the company is Geico go to geico dot com today so maybe going to be trained and Robbie Anderson I just don't know how much longer I can hang on with these guys it's tough real tough Daniel Jeremiah Jersey let's take your phone call what's up Brent Dan I'm totally with you on your heartache I got a two hundred dollars bet with a friend that they'll make the playoffs so really need that six in a row there seventy two the last time the bruins won six in a row that's why it's a hot take that's why it's a heartache Brenton pack your drinking some cooler I don't know where you got it from that this team finishes five and eleven given everything that's going on it will be okay but I'm just calling because I'm a I'm a miserable New York jets fan and it just feels like the same Ole jet they're listening to calls for Levian Bell Zero what he got from John Well I'M GONNA CLEVELAND Browns Fan since Jim Brown carried the ball and with all due it is and what it isn't as a coach I'm just avoiding it get to fourth-down Mike you walk it over work down hot we get that problem solved this off season everything else is secondary that's what he tweeted out which means either Joe Douglas believes the same exact thing or is talent my vp of player personnel a he said the jets should have one priority right now fixed the L. collect as many assets as poetry and they lose that one and suddenly they have a better draft position than the same one when team because they lost that one win team up to get across the finish line that's how you tank and the jets should've out tanked the dolphins by ruining their borne out of the mononucleosis situation leading to the u the man point from Sam Darnold and my fourth down hot take I believe in week three after the disaster on Monday night football born out against Cleveland that the Dolphins Front Office has removed so many players from this roster that leaves the team shorthanded enough okay football broadcasts well at any rate I set after that one that the jets should out tank the dolphins feel that Sam darnold would not regress into absolute a pool of water then than they should do it if somebody's going to call them up flying with US exactly but I say it with a germ of you know what I kind of can see this happening and I kind of believe it all I'm saying is there still time the jets play next week the dolphins by giving them fewer and fewer bullets of ammunition figuratively in a game where when it all comes down to it like it did in Pittsburgh last night they don't have enough get his best as great as he is for for the team we haven't seen somebody that talented at that position since Curtis Martin and if he of that sort of stuff completely agree with you thank you for taking my goal Brent and again when I give a fourth down hot take plan sitting there first overall and trading to away to somebody else and met all the draft picks for it so get rid of Lebanon Bell lose the rest of them and build up the offensive line and out tank everybody go get chase young or eight away all of the tool bounty and get a million draft choices if you're planning on trading levy belt you might as well just a nuclear crisis out indefinitely graphic that will live as long as seeing ghosts for this poor kid what a graphic by the way to espn Monday in a deep end of our business pool a lot of people that that that you know I know I sound like an airplane pilot and you have a lot of choices at this time of day and we appreciate you the matter how much these players and coaches of the dolphins want to win and they do want to win they're not taking once told me Ball Front office tanking it is presented with tongue slightly in cheek flailing that stuff that I wouldn't ordinarily say but I remember the US president but there's president Adams in the back end of this defense that should go nowhere and I think I speak for every jet Fan and when I say that I will take a break Joey Bosa of the Los Angeles chargers when we come back football season is here and it's time to dominate the competition step in from the UK and say we're taking a car keys away here the jets owner is focused on that's part of the constructive my four downs that my fourth down I dipped my toe in hot hot take pool when we are as you know in this business tells me this guy so coffee he wants to hide his strength no matter the matchup RJ's got you handled with topnotch analysis for the best nfl picks and with your fantasy picks and RJ bells dream preview on comcast sports net is your secret weapon victory I said the fact they didn't run enough in week one go the whole distance I'm like that I'm like that voice from the corn cow with test yeah so according to the rich Simeoni he's reporting three hours to the deadline help make this show possible so thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting now back to the show welcome back to the rich Eisen show kind enough to statistically was speaking in that sense when you were lining up in Chicago I just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast certainly couldn't do this show without either of you and I wanted to remind you that prior to this one is this yeah I'd have to say that this one this one probably takes the cake here why is that around now is that true or not I don't know very optimistic download RJ bells dream preview every week on apple podcasts and podcast one dot com hey let's Agilis chargers he is Joey Bosa here on the rich Eisen show how are you joey I'm good how are you I'm doing fine I I am doing absolutely fine everything seems to be great in the Bosa World Huh you can support my sponsors by going to my show page at podcast one dot com clicking on the support this podcast button and there you'll see all of my wonderful sponsors that I'm all out of that subserve that's absurd now that's where you got to basically step in from the UK well I mean and again it's interesting that I will take get a perspective from somebody on the other side of the line and certainly somebody whose job it is is to disrupt plays that the coach Matt and he thinks everything is on the table for the jets you know being available minded except for Darnold Adam and Quinton Williams no one is untouchable including Oh Joey and time's ticking down and the bears took a knee did that surprise you honestly I these days not bad this weekend is this the best weekend you have had what what's the best weekend football weekend you you as the Bosa brothers of had China I didn't really realize how much time was left I see that tennis -ssume that it was uh I don't know if that's trubisky decision or what ever made the decision but I guess they probably could have attacked it a little differently compounded by what was happening to your team in the previous weeks leading up to that it was just tough because you know I felt like we Nigeria I mean before we get to the whole demoralized sense I guess then when you realized after the game the situation I guess in which Nagy said and this has been a part of the conversation Chicago since is that everybody knew that they were going to run and that would lead to a loss of yardage that he didn't want to all in on an off day in between winning in Chicago at the very last second and getting set for none other than Aaron Rodgers to come into the house of the loss my mind hoped and thought that the game was at that point and it was tough then obviously with addition of weeks prior and the things that now down to the last seconds because they were I I was I was just so demoralized that they got down the field field goal that I wasn't it's closer and have a little little better shot at making it but I guess that logic makes sense when and then when you say that you were kind of demoralized over the did you say something yeah okay yeah I mean so no championship belt if you put them down on the ground nothing like that I don't know maybe maybe a little something I'm usually I'm usually not saying much cubeys but I rogers deserves a little bit of respect Louis Charges He's one of the most fearsome pass rushers at several levels of of pro football is he's as he's shown from the Ohio State University to now the lawsuit packers and Aaron Rodgers what challenge does he present to you joey I mean I think everybody knows the channels he presents in his arms fact that the chargers had gotten as far into your territory as they did did that was at just the general situation of the game or was that just I think he's the clubhouse leader in that

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