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Greatest Sporting Villains

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Greatest Sporting Villains

"Yes. Head in the game. Just. Hello, everyone. I'm Jamie laying and welcome back to head in the game. Now this week we have another special episode few hot on the hills of last week's team of the century, which, by the way, you can still download, of course. So I won't give away the winner. This latest episode focuses on the dark side, the greatest, not so great villains sport now over the last couple of weeks, you've been boating, for the rogues rascals wrongings of sport. And we whittled your selection down to the final ten now along side me is one of the true goody goodies broadcasting. She looks at me with so much love every single time. She sees me, she quit athletics. Just so she could work with me. It's true. She also claims she would have had a career in football if she only knew how lucrative the women's game would have become Rachel string. That's just so typical of me, I meant in terms of I look any sponsor. Oh, I could have gained best that you actually sent me a message of the day saying, don't tell him. I said, listen, she said point the way I could have been the most epic foot blur, live. And then I did send you. Of me playing. But boy, it was awesome. Yeah, yeah, my sent you. The video of me throwing the javelin fitful meters, one hundred eleven to hold the record at school. So there we go right before we introduce, I guess, we're going to hit from voice with the ultimate list as voted by you. Now, remember, we've bought some names from pole, there's no room for drug cheats. It's all about on field, bad behavior. And transgressions this is the greatest sporting villain. All-time ten thanks Jamie in no particular order here is the greatest sporting villains top ten Sergio Ramos more red cards than anyone in alita, half a million people signed a petition to have him banned, Mike Tyson, the self-proclaimed baddest man on the planet. I and Mike off part of event Holyfield's ear. Josie Marino, the self-proclaimed special one became more popular the longer. He was in the game. Petulant rarely magnanimous and the worst crime of all cynical negative football Dave. David Warner his band for ball tampering with sandpaper was the nail in the coffin nicknamed, the bull, this sledging went beyond. What is regarded as acceptable, not a guy, you'd want to mess with Diego Costa, once through his own spit at the F O mentioned Sergio Ramos, Brandon cheat for diving switched from Brazil to Spain treachery Diego matter. Donna his hand of God, probably the most infamous weld Cup crime. His Radic behavior have made him, both hero, and villain. Joey Barton a disciplinary record in the English leads that are second to none Roy Keane. Who can forget, he deserted his teammates during a weld Cup campaign and his infamous clash without Inga Harland Floyd. Mayweather, both one of the great son. One of the villains of boxing. Why his love of money is nickname is money. His ego his trash talking one to admire unload in the same breath. And finally Luis Suarez half are half. Cannibal banned several times biting his deliberate. Hobble in the World Cup broke in hogs a serial Daiva found guilty of racially abusing Patrice ever, and that is the greatest sporting villain, all time ten so that's the talk turn as voted by you. Now, do you agree with it? Which names should have made the final ten but didn't who will have the juice of being voted number one. Now time to introduce hug s. It's welcome back to ESPN's Steve shoulders h Saunders Lou. Hey confused, a YouTube brothers. I, I don't think so. But maybe maybe I mean, I think that the similarity ends as soon as you hear or see us to maybe. Rachel not related. Why have you seen the film twins? Wait. Wait hang on. You're pregnant. Definitely. Gee guys best that's going to throw me off the whole different they do because it'll be old. If you are brothers both work for ESPN be strained. When that still think we'd be alone. Just inspires younger brother happens all the time. Okay. Rachel fine. I hear what you're saying. Okay, guys, you had the ten as voted on our ESPN Instagram Facebook pages, we had lows ventures any names. You're surprised didn't make the list to. There's a couple from tennis won the original boy, John McEnroe. He's a whole new stunt. He created an entire career for himself. I've lost kind of how many adverts that tackling TIMMY might even want to recreate McEnroe's most famous line I can do for you right now, if you want, you cannot be serious. That's pretty. Pretty good doing what I can do. Everyone can do that. Another line can do more quits. If you forget, the only Wilkinson commentary as well that completes the hot the hot and every time it'd be on the show as well. Thirty seconds to go. This is the one it's coming the jelly Wilkinson. He's dropping cloudy this, the clip show now. Jamie does. What I do. It's my talent. But going back to McEnroe. It's so true. He was sort of, in my, he's one of the bad, boys. In sport in general. He was one of these people who just didn't care about the rules. He was so wanting to win. Does that make a bad boy? If you just don't care about anything else, and you just want to win. I think that a lot of people are on the list are not on the list hot. Exactly, it was that moment of I need to do something to win McEnroe. He says himself that he lived on the field of losing. And that's what he did when he was scared of losing. He would unleash this way. That's the difference between curious and McEnroe's McEnroe had so many wins through his career as one of the great tennis if you look at carry-ons, he's been in the quarterfinals of destroyed him once with a once, and that's it, Joe Macken, rumors endearing, bad guy because you'll okay he was he was that he had that will to win any did win curious just acts like he does. And there's no end product there. That's why I'm surprised MacIntosh should be on here as a purist bag. I list, I think. Alot of the time the public forgave McEnroe 'cause he would win things as well. And Kelly needs to do that for people to see a Motors, a villain rather than just a bad guy. The will Wimbledon all the time he just you walking boss, a court, and, you know, curious is playing that because there's a little shouting and loads of events of fanatics cheering around. But even with even McEnroe has said that he's the craziest I've ever seen. It takes one to know. One was going clever because he made it Parviz persona. So he'll go in adverse and he will play up that and you can kinda okay? He might be that on the copies able to recognize it. He's in on the joke and I didn't think curious would quite on the same joke about how he behaves at the moment. So maybe one day he'll do that. But right now, he doesn't okay? I want to say I'm a Chelsea fan runs veins. John Terry, where do I start? Okay. There's a few things that's happened over the years, that he probably has hasn't been favor with the mullet people. One of the big ones is when he at she will his food team kit lifted the Champions League trophy when he was actually banned. And then the other one when he was banned for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand that loss on especially is pretty horrible. The full kit thing I remember reading something that was in the regulations for that competition that year. So cherry ended up getting of. Bad rap for an unfair reason. I've never been a fan of him, but no, I'm not gonna say no. If you look. So I was going to say the captain leader legend, banner has always infuriated me about John Terry. And I know it's not his fault, but whenever I've heard a Chelsea fan defend. John, Terry, just furious me. So I think that is more. Why feel like he's Villanova? If that's just me, I'm fascinated the John Terry was stripped of the England captaincy twice. Go from you can't be cops and again to our okay? Come back into away. No, no. We were right in the first place. That's pretty spectacular. Steve coming in. I love that. I think is kind of John Terry's matured, and now he's going to Aston Villa and he's doing really good things maybe changing players such as Jack relation. We will know what he used to be like that famous picture in the paper of him, laying out IB. So he control from his experiences, teach the younger generation coming through, you know, I'm going to give him a clown. You see you touch on something I think is central tool. This particularly team sports the villains of people that other teams love to hate. And so people love to hate John Terry, because he was playing for Chelsea and Chelsea fans. Loved them a nose Aston Villa everyone who probably John Taylor's at Chelsea's. No. He's all right. Guy. He's cheeky as well actually wrote him, I left, my phone on the side, and I came back to load of different Sylvia's of John and every other player in the dressing very much. Name. John kerry. Okay. But it's interesting enough about this whole villain list before we get into more footloose and things like that, is that, you know, if you look at something WWE, the people who love the most the people who are absolutely loved, or absolutely hated. So you kind of want to be in the middle, you kind of want to be fitted. And speaking of another footballer teary on deliberately handling the ball against Arslan. I remember that really clearly because it was probably one of the first Twitter controversies that ever happen, because it was right. And not late two thousand nine part where Twitter kind of exploded, and people are getting used to all and Twitter went into meltdown, because he denied Ireland chance to kind of apologized and wanted to make up for all kind of consoling the Irish players going off. Can't believe happens like no, you did it. Everyone just before the world of fear and everything else. So every single person in the stadium studios around the world, watch it on TV every single person knew that this was a false result. And it was nothing. They could do it. That was the Fusco bit was everyone was like, oh, that shouldn't happen. But FRANZ have gone through, I think actually signed up for Twitter because of that. I remember trying to work out how to out someone and all of that stuff. I think it was same thing. I still I'm still like twittering. Is it twist to it? King. Twitter. Gonna make jank you Rachel them. I just didn't I held it back about Twitter that, you know about ten to. Another one St. Smith. Australian captain -bility boy, not boys sandpaper saga in his pocket against Africa Smith, as the captain, kind of took the full, but it was so David worn, or he was the ringleader in the whole thing came up with the idea should Cameron Bancroft to do this kind of thing, the win. Which will play the was the Bancroft and Smith took the Foley had to do the press conference after after the session to explain what had happened David Warner was nowhere to be seen, and I think that's reflected on our list, another person who we have mentioned who has to be mentioned Conor McGregor. Anyone Connor McGregor ever. I love that song. Sorry, I'm interesting mood for fun. Profounder that doesn't. Back in the day. Simple. To dismiss Warner split here. I almost feel like if you're going to have Floyd Mayweather analyst Conor McGregor Fettes, very similar guidelines that tour that the had prior to their, their fight was once the more disgusted fakes his sporting world. He crossed the line many, many times against each other. And then you have the fight and you get to the end of you go I was all just a big game wasn't. It was just a big act. On of money. If it so fairplay to them folks seeing to a lesser degree mixed martial arts. They kind of play on that you mentioned WWE earlier told him Gregor is perfect, for that because I think he knows exactly how to sell a fight exactly what to do. And I don't agree with Stephen said it was pretty disgusting stuff. That was going on. Then it made people want to watch it, and it was actually a bit of a false ical fight. But for some reason, everyone was like I've got to see this is the biggest sporting event ever watched it, and I've just been played. I saw Eddie Hearn, who is big promoter in boxing. He spoke about that fight. He said two things firstly it's the biggest scam that any sport has ever seen. But it's also one of the biggest genius things to ever happen sport now and also going back to another is that I wanna go with you got Eric Cantona Zenit, Dan, those to cancer during the flight kick into the crowd, and sedan giving headbutts do they count as bad boys? Was that just out of passion? Is that what do you think of Madison gains? Yeah. I think these two fascinating because the Dan, if you actually think if you take the head away, I coming single thing, as it did that. Was council was maybe a bit more on that edge. But still, he was unbelievable plan. He may be bit more arguments for the rest of something, but as players they were amazing. And that's why those two moments stick out so much because they were so crazy, and they were so kind of out of what we expected to be the norm, maybe, especially with the Dan and a World Cup final. Kansas fascinating, actually, because if you go back to his time, earlier and his career before he joined up with rally stocks and he was a real hot head his career was kind of swinging around a bit unfair. Gi got him to to concentrate for all, but one game where he kinda lost the plot against Crystal Palace on concrete fun. I punt on talked about seagulls and trawlers one more. We have to mention our Ronnie O'Sullivan. Okay. The Babbo Snooka Nate. What do you think about Ronnie? Well, the fact that you can say, there's a bad boy of snoot. We need to on yourself. I mean, he made you wanna watch Snooka if he played, I was never really that into it. But if he was playing I would say, well, I'm gonna watch yourself when I think he was one of those guys that just kind of people associate with the sport and always will, and he had to be that way. If he was any other Snooka play you wouldn't really care. We still stuff. We did was quite little Chris. I mean, I've seen him just quick games in the middle of them because he wasn't a win. Which is obviously not a sporting into do you talk about it, and you remember mental thing with him. He was always talking about like the demons that he hasn't he was kind of playing. And so, I think that's reflects in what you said, they just can't quite handle the pressure, and again had these moments of madness and you didn't quite know what you're going to get from him. But I do know now that he has really kind of tried to change things up. He kinda quit smoking and drinking. And he's now says he's teetotal and his love of running is trying to change sports definitely an hats off to forever to me has done. But you're still liable to start playing lifetime to deliberately miss a black. Bowl when he's on a one four seven he's, he's that kind of comic books of stuff, people will turn up and watch that, because they don't know what's going to happen next whether or not you want to stake, your reputation, some late run elephant is, is another thing you know, you it's, it's a difficult one for the sports governing bodies, for example, to try and get the best these guys sell to sport. In the way, when these guys go off the Chris such storm our own and they sell tickets. I wait for the Bob Obama tan. I am excited for we saw in the office before we left there with the mini golf championships. The niece. It's a very important stick. It was the crazy story sorry championships. Not to be confused with many Gulf, which is completely. Way, better crazy not lovely note. Let's talk about the ten that did make the list now we have Sergio Rimas Mike Tyson, Jose Marino. David Warner Diego Costa, Diego Maradona Joey Barton Roy Keane Floyd. Mayweather Luis Suarez. Now, all the any names that surprised you that are in the top ten. I think that's a pretty solid list. There's arguments for a couple of disgust and the all kind of share that same trait of just being on the edge the edge of only gonna go off. At this moment are the are they going to plead great? And this this game on gonna win this championship. You know, they've thought ability, and yet if not little Caddock to Florida. I agree with Stephen in the sense. I think everyone in, you could make an argument forthwith Diego. Costa may have come out for some of the other people we could go in. I think Costa abound, reputation, I have a little problem with Costa. I dated someone wanted to then told me that they slept with Diego Costa. And it really. It really is. Yeah. I was like, oh, really okay. And they said there's a problem and I went. This one. I have no idea what you've done. I know. Sorry, it's really put me off. He's just a bit of a brute. The one that go away that you could have been married to this all because of Diego Costa, change, my opinion. I think he's definitely in them. I wanna ask you, Diego Maradona really villain. Yeah. Percent. Yes. So Google less knows feel free to stop the podcast. Now you can come by it's fine. Golfing, Google monitoring nineteen eighty two red card and they can come back. And then once you come back, Google monotone culpa del Rey, and then come back and then work out with is basically the two most ridiculous red cards. You'll ever see in your life to the listeners who don't have Google, what happens. So what are the red cars, so and nineteen eighty two phase of the World Cup Argentina Brazil quite a big game. Brazil three up vote five minutes to go mount on a takes exception to challenge of one of these teammates. And just basically kicks the opponent more or less, where you would have liked to have kick Diego cost when you found out. Let's go. On the other one, I neither one is a complete meltdown where there's a fight going on the some sort of Maili going on on the pitch. And then monotone a- who instigate the whole thing, manages to kind of fly kit someone right in the face and not clean cold. It's genuinely amazing. And this is it barbaric violence that you cakes off as well. So yeah, he's a bad guy. Forget your hand ball in the World Cup. That's nothing to what monitoring do you find interesting. Is that all people who related football in this, you know, in other one is Jose Marino hero to villain? I prayed way he manage Chelsea people loved, and they really liked him. He's the only manager on the list, does he deserve to be in the top ten I would say, does, I think I think he was such a big influence on the Premier League and European full of the last fifteen years, and he cultivated, the image himself. He's interesting because I think it shows that this temperament has a sell by date, if you're not winning anymore, you suddenly have to reevaluate when he was doing it with Chelsea, the first time it was great because he was like, Ferguson, Ferguson would be. Certain way, but United win and gloss just came off Marino. And he kind of he just looked outdated by the end a great point about winning. I remember Celtic plan portal and the UA forgot fine of two thousand and three juicy marinas portal team. And nobody really knew vote portal at that time they hadn't beaten Manchester night. Each year Old Trafford, for example, it was some of the most cynical playacting and rolling around and just general cheating that I've ever seen in a major final porta one and so always forgiven. Two thousand five he is banned from the dugout ban from communicating with Chelsea to champion's league much with bio Munich. So he hides in a laundry bin gets into the dressing room and gives team talk that way. And it's kind of funny genius. Oh, that's funny that Manchester United getting beat by everyone. It's not as much fun. You also shouldn't forget as well as time. It Real Madrid when he was up against quality, boss. Luna really descended into some really nasty stuff. He poked Tito Villanova in the eye that was over. He did also go into the, the comedic villain side of things never forget, into beating boss Alona in Barcelona. Get the Champions League final, and he runs around the pitch on up in the air around the center circle just and the new camp is literally about to riot. I think of that point. I think that was the stupid thing with. Marina was he do stuff like that? And then do behave like he did it Real Madrid quite personal with some of his players as well. Which I think crosses the line, when he actually publicly kind of cool some players out. Kevin quite over when he was in charge. It unites people, Luke shore poke, and I think that just I was the markets while if you want something, set your players, you say behind closed doors, and you don't to publicly humiliate them, Romans with awesome anger, for example, really personal. So you'd even turn on rival managers. But a funny thing is there's a postscript because no both finger on marina road of work. They're not managing clubs anymore. So both working for TV broadcast in the same studio pecking over the Trump is league finals all is forgiven. Sorry nowadays, it's proven that if you're nice, it works, but I like yoga and club, the nicest manager, seemingly the nicest manager ever whatever just done just on the Champions League. It's almost like marina style of management style of play. 'cause from Vigo Nita, he was kind of left behind an interesting thing was that his style of football was being left behind when he was at Chelsea. So for them to then get the mind United job to what he there was an inevitable conclusion. And he's nowhere really to go. No. It's a fascinating situation for Klopp, and Guardia. Those guys play such a good style of football. And on that side of the they're both very likeable people. So then that's where the whole game has shifted in very short time. Just going to put out. I'm looking down this list, ten other any girls. No, no, no. I usually complained. On these lists today. I'm loving it wouldn't have gone to. Well, if there was suddenly eight women in the village. I'm trying to wrack my brains. And think of anybody the I could put in spin question movie monthly I'm not saying that ABC's she's unbelievable athlete, but Serena Williams, but she comes villain. There was that stuff at the owner say a straight open lost you. I mean she, she sent to the same kind of lightning rod of all of these players. Lighten enroll where everyone's attention is on them. They're almost wanting something to happen with them. And it's a big thing. We'll ever do does this kind of ripple effect the, you know, the world starts to take everything they do is ten times bigger than than another player might the some talk ten Lewis WADA's is one of those georamas another where Costa again another where you just can't. It doesn't take much to set all off to carry us you mentioned him a little bit earlier. Something about having a hot head in a sport. That just kinda makes it more exciting. I think you need to have it. If everyone is so nice and fine and just wants to plan it. So little about the game. You want some with the depression. He wants only screamer on the court. You want someone who's going to be smashing wreck it up. I like it. I like it to this apart of me that really is kind of fun of Nick, Katie. And I don't know whether I'm affected by a really good friendship with the and anyone who's friends with Audie money with me, whenever he does have one of his misdemeanors. He's always on the back pay. A newspaper and people then become intrigued about him and the spore you never gone. It's one of these four majors, people can achieve into watch. What he may or may not do an associate's style. You know, he's he's rogue. He's cool. He's on orthodox underarm serve as cool. And he's on this current as well. I think he needs to refine it. But someplace if you took this away from the that'd be nowhere. They don't play without that security oversee. He needs to roll it back. But Murray if you remember Murray, he the stuff his career was not a hot head in the same way, kind of, had to learn how to channel the anger into the talent. The curious hasn't been do that. But that's just being Scottish. Stephen states of the stew, if you white meal get me an iron brew. Also. We're gonna tend to cricket David Warner. Now he was wrong, and even before you met into tempering with the bull wasn't he, he sledged? He went beyond the marquee, like heroes, isn't it? Great to have a pantomine villain within the sport. Dow one's a really fascinating one because Warner came to head from the hole sandpaper controversy and he was the instigator of the whole thing. And that was just kind of the tipping point of them just being a bit too. I wanna see enabled by everyone around him by stealing cricket by teammates by the IP L giving them two point four million dollars for playing this kind of thing. And I think this is a trained for, for these villains as well as the, the have a low of people telling them how great the are until the moment where the overstep the Mark if you look back at David Warrener's press conference once he gets back to stray off, being suspended by Israel, and cricket and important point, as well. Bind by cricket board. He wasn't bond by the IC, but he was bombed by the cricket board for not cooperate. And then for Tacoma, but when you look at his press conference, there's a really human part of you to take over. And goes you know what I feel Saudi foot him and that was weird that everything they got on. I actually felt Saudi, I guess he had the nickname, the bull and change. Little bit now. Mellow people have changed it to the Reverend should I. I'm going to. About if you watch David Warner the ashes or the World Cup right now. He will be mouthing off to every single person and it won't be something you'd hear reference judge. I wanted to say something on David welna the mango in a fight with Joe route twenty thirteen walkabout. How'd you get? How do you get in a fight with Joe root? Villainous thing I've ever heard. You've never walked into walkabout Steve's on. Shane Warne used to open mouth alone, and be a bit of a bad boy of cricket. But in this sledging Wednesday things, I think it's part of the sport, quite like it. I agree. I, I like anything that makes it a bit more interesting, especially in, in test. Cricket when you hours, you need something to spice up the game. Sometimes if you don't get in the crease. That way. Now going onto kind of the more aggressive sport books now. There are two punks on the list. Mike Tyson Floyd money. Mayweather. Now, I'm not surprised that Tyson's on the missed Advanta Holyfield biting, the air his aggression in the ring, but may wear the merits talked him villain status. If you look at the list of people may with a foot in his career, even if you take McGregor away from that which I didn't think was anyway, proper flight. He often would fight people later than he should have done in the patio fight should have happened about four years before it did by the time it happened. He was interested in the money I think it only went ahead because everything that he wanted patio agree to they had an awful fight. That's not important, but they had an awful of the end and he could have been so much better to me. That was always on may weather in the way he approached the fight. That is definitely fight fines. Don't forget that he ducked doctors historic opponents and wasn't really prepared to put that undefeated record properly on the line. But the trash talking with just a bit too much. I mean some of it was really distasteful to the point. Point where he wants through has father, Jim and cold said to him. You're nothing but on explosive cabdriver his own father, but, you know, moving on someone like Tyson, right Tyson. It was honestly terrifying. Going against Tyson in the ring was actually it was scary. Do you think, well, the other thing is well is he was marketed as the bodice Mylanta planet, and he kind of became the caricature of in the end some of the stuff that came out with after fights and Glasgow would he? He said he wanted to eat Lennox Lucy's children. Children. What's the real problem with that? I remember I was a lot younger when Tyson Holyfield happened and Tyson bit Holyfield's ear. And it was one of the first time I'd ever sat up for a pay per view right through the night and it's like a right of passage a young man. Staying up to watch the box until five year. I will still have the newspaper clippings of that don't know why. I have kept where are they frame? Someone folded up next to my love letters. I is a bizarre place to put them. We'll Tyson I think is there's a generation of people who have grown up him being in the hangover. He's soft spoken guy, who if you actually listen to him, talk about how he was. He's very apologetic about it. He's very philosophical belts it, and that's the interesting when he's I think him Myron donor the oldest two on this list. I think when you get older if you're able to a bit like we spoke about Joe McEnroe kind of self deprecating, or at least talk about how you were appreciates it. Maybe it takes some of that villainous status away from your tiny bit, Tyson is somewhat of a villain. But I just think that he just was an out an out fighter. He's genuinely box office as well that he was, he was next level in that sense. Tyson doing anything was nineteen years, older heavyweight champion nineteen completion of his knockouts on YouTube, which if you watch you I'm sorry. This must be this must be. Dr there's no way this guy went through people at this. Unbelievable. Nice brown. There's an underrated Tyson moment somewhat forgotten Tyson moment as well. Which is not only did he bite Holyfield's ear. He bet Lennox Lucy's leg. Press conference just pretty nuts. On the biting theme. It's a nice segue into Lewis Juarez, though. There's three footballers or more recent footballers on the list. I'm talking about said you're almost Lewis Juarez on, of course, Diego cost a Jamie's favorite guy. Which of those is more of a villain loose Ladas play strong, and not less being said your Rama's. He's really great records. He is the most carded player and Lalita. He's the most carded player effort in the Champions League. And he's the most Cardi player ever for the Spanish national team. What's a hattrick doesn't intent? ESPN's magden. He an article as well about rambles and just basically how unpopular he was. And so that's kind of worth a read is what if you want to remember that moment? Is irrelevant. All right. Do you remember that moment? L classic o Roma's versus Bosso messy with the boo. And Ramos just takes out his back legs kicking him and then called his trade off. I mean he just didn't cat seems to do that. Champions league. Final lost year. Just awful guy. He's oversee out there to cut Mosa, and that was the end of his Champions League lofta. What was it not about twenty minutes? I ten minutes or so in that. Yeah. That's the first thing thing with Ramos. If you if any other player in the merger team it done that I think he was still said, always, but they would have focused on the fact that silence out the game, the Ramdas did it. And he got up and kind of you could see on his face is like not to upset about that going off in your head. You're either he did that on purpose people believe that because it was him. And that shows you how much of here's the fact that you would attribute malice to that sort of situation, whether or not he did it did mean to we also can't forget, okay. Not have anything in Costa, because he did he wants through spit Sergio Ramdas. Come on. During that was forget tackling. Forget the red cards throwing spit is business. How'd you even throw your speed? I don't know but cost can do it. But also he switched from Brazil to Spain. Did that is does Judas to the absolute extreme? I hate Diego Costa. You have good reason. I just think it's switching from two teams. I mean, you've gotta stay loyal to your countries, they low team. Switching that it's just wrong in my opinion. What do you think? I mean people switch teams all the time in which country lines is just what happened. So I don't know. That's really something that we can kind of say he's been four. We wouldn't have a curricular rugby team either. Okay. Maybe nitpicking. Africans irishman. We'd be Suarez is a fascinating one because his rap she is probably one of the biggest on here. You've got everyone remembers the Chilean e black but he bit to other players in his career. And the crazy thing with Kelly was the in game. He then started holding his teeth as, if he'd been somehow injured by the. He's looking into it with that. And I was so angry. There was over see the whole thing with Patrice effort racially insulted him in a game, and then they played the next year swears fuse to shake every hand as if he's been wrong, as if it was his fault that he'd so if ever had shaken his okay that's fair enough. Like forgive Suarez something refused to shake his hand back which was outrageous. And then we talked about Maradonna earlier, famous hand of God Soir as prevented gone. I think from going through to the semi finals in twenty ten pretty awesome. John heads down Suarez just basically punches, the bull away. And then John misses the penalty and Suarez's on the sidelines. Cheering goes in the tunnel, which is we sorry, I'm gonna mention w one more time. Vincent Monroe, a bad guy. Would respond to read cardinal Cup phone. That's like genius. Bad guy writing, but yeah, you only have to look the Champions League semi final boss loom against them and loose. What is was doored by Liverpool funds, and then had the temerity, scored against me, celebrate, and then he's to them, and he gets booed, and it just goes to show that, if that played for you. It's great if I played against you, you hate them as such a fierce passionate goes into guys to mow names on the list, Joey Barton Roy Keane. We haven't mentioned yet Nate. What do you think? Jerry button is just a guy who was always assumed to be a bad guy when he was playing two thousand four stub the cigarette out a teammates, I, which is pretty pretty bad. If we're talking about that. He also assaulted another team main two thousand seven twenty twelve finale, you did the Wairoa impression earlier, but the star of that game earlier in that game, he gets sent off for, I think he elbowed teve then tried to head company then tried to kick guero. So he kind of went for everyone, who basically was. Wearing a city show that point so he was pretty bad. I want about Roy Keane. I would one hundred percent on I'm an interest town phone and came was one of our worst-ever manages, and I like you with the cost, I just can't get past that I'm completely biased. Stephen should take this objective, Twitter few well as fascinating as well, because Mick McCarthy was kimes manager two thousand two World Cup keen, stormed to refuse to play because Mick McCarthy didn't know what he was doing the sensually so keen, went home and walked his dog. Well, well, Ireland try tip progress through the three welcomed actually had a good tournament even without him. And he was comfortably the play time. But also become forget that horrendous tackle he did the Crear ending tackle did on alvian Holland. Yeah. Way. Then emitted pretty much that he did on purpose because the year before there's about attack on him. And he was told to get up, and he had done wasn't that right by Harland wasn't injured in badly at the service career. Yep. He went to get Holland got him. And then he wrote a book civil per Bod guy behavior. So we both agreed these people should be on the list. Yes, yes. Yes, sir. All right. Gentlemen. Ladies, it's now a time to find out who is the number one all time sporting or not. So sporting villain, now, here is the lovely voice with the bad boy countdown. Here we go. Number ten David Warner number nine throw it may weather. Number eight Diego. Maradona number seven Josie Marino number six, Joey Barton number five Diego. Costa number four, Mike Tyson, number three, Roy Keane. Number two Luis Suarez and number one is Sergio Ramos, guys. What do we think says you're almost list? Number one, says you're remers Steve. What do you think just the deserved I think he fits this Bill really well in the? He's, he's a podcast. He does all of his stuff on the field is kind of, like he doesn't leave transgressions that just help his team win in that kind of is the point, he, he doesn't all because he wants to win. It's not it's not desire to win that takes them to those places. He will get deliberately Saint off, so he can serve suspension. Dead game. That came to thing. Yeah. Respect to Sergio Rommel's well done, but never bit someone once times. So I would swear as above him, I agree with you. You know, you can get a bad disciplinary record for just being quite harsh defender. But biting someone once twice three times, however many times, you do it, it's pretty bad. So I would swear above the and I'm gonna put it out that David Warner number ten no as bad as Joey Barton. I mean, that is cheating to the next I'd be fascinating to see this list to gain after the ashes of David Warner helps strata when they're not might change people's opinion. I mean, Louis WADA's was a hito to live Apu fines about three months ago to them the ones interesting as well. I wonder how many people have pre she ate the scale of what he and Smith and bunker of didn't crickets very technical offense. When you say they a people say, well, okay, so it's not as obvious as cheating as say, Maradonna punching the ball over Peter Shilton. So maybe that is downplayed a bit, but it was him trying to get an advantage on another team. So I think that might downplay a bit. I think maybe Jay Marinez well seven maybe he should inten- like the only manager on the list as well. And we were kind of saying. Just about his personality in the end, and how he kind of spoke to different players manages, okay? There was some times when he was a bit reckless. Maybe when he was in his tangible area by think maybe he should have been further up list in terms of top ten nine or something rather than areas at seven tournament month. Just United took away from some villain character because it's almost like people at. Yeah, but that really matters like, yeah he was. He was seen as the best monitor in the world. And he's doing all these things that were kind of over the line at times. So, so, yeah, I agree that Marino's possibly lucky to not be highly Dona should be in the top five. I'm just going to put it out that hopefully in my opinion should have made number one spot, Costa. He is just a horrid, horrid person, Jamie have been married and have kids by now. And that's why I like it. I just think he is. I think he's a villain. I think that he's not nice and governed if I have met Diego. So I would just go. Hate you. Right. That was the talk ten calmed down as voted by you. However lazing it wouldn't be a head into the game podcast without my favorite part of the show. Yes, you guys ready for this. Yes. What is it? The head in the game quiz voice. You better be ready. Yes it's the head in the game. Quiz, Stephen Nate Jamie, and Rachel. Are you ready? Okay. Guests I let's go to Nate true of foles, Mike Tyson famously raised racing pigeons, but also had a passion for musical theater once. Dishing for the musical Hamilton in New York true falls. Best bonkers enough that it's true. It's full. If he did that you'd have to give him the job, Steve before becoming a professional fighter Khanna, McGregor worked isn't a Tristian tro foles, go true. I'm afraid ESPN on doing so. Well today, it's foles. He was a plumber. Jamie. Yes. Tough tackler, Roy Keane, was once on the receiving end of a punch in the face from bus, Brian cloth, after he under hit, back, backpass, true or false else. It's true. Today finally to the lady is right. Rachel Sergio Rambus the scene read more times than any other alita. And as a both fighting fan often waves matador Cape to celebrate wins cheering. Cheering is correct. Oh man. Here we go. Multiple choice. Nate Joey Barton type not recently, but his stack do ended in a thing song, the local pub, the Abroal on a beach in UK. See a game of naked five aside d all of the above. I think all of the above it's a brawler beach in thought it was gonna be the brewer by the other two. Bad locked down zero out of two so far. Diego cost attempted to wind up stoke defend Iran Shawcross by a repeatedly, pulling his shorts down of corners, be pointing TEZ armpits and making a bad smell face see blowing kisses to him, d all of the above, as dago cost go up the all the above. It's actually be pointing to his armpits and making a bad smell face bad luck. Okay. Jamie after meltdown at the Italian Open, fiery tennis plan us through what onto the court must abusing the empire Italian for Bowles be a chair in a bottle of water. See Charon record de Oliveira above a chair in record is correct. Hey, Rachel Jane very well head in the game team. Not so, well, the SPN. Here we go temperamental and somewhat hungry. Footballer Luis Suarez got into trouble age sixteen in Uruguay when he a bit aligns men be slapped. Feno plan for a few depositor him. See head butted the referee d put a potato and the exhaust manages car, refusing to play him. Well, I would have wanted the oil for Bob option. But that's not that I mean. No. I'm going to go slap to play palsy, nerds, headbutted the resume. Jamie's in the league. Rowntree. This is for everyone. They said what fit in the blanks. Okay. I correct answer wins. Josie Marino once said, if they make a film about me. They should get blank to play me. Oh. Yes. Sorry. Name your day. Okay. Board of his own brilliance. This one's from Ronnie O'Sullivan looking for blank is the only way to motivate yourself looking for blank is the only way to motivate yourself. Anyone perfection that was Steve wasn't very stand. Finally, a point to mow trash talking boxing legend Floyd Mayweather junior show. True motor St. when he claimed, I'm just an American walled. Harry. On giant Stor. No can't you say here, gangster boy kid. I'm just an American. Sweet dream. Yes. Don't worry about it. That one. I, I will. Put it onto the crowd question, Jamie. You've won by a distinct mile final one. This is good old Maradona the ever controversial Diego made the statement. There are hundreds of blanks playing football all over the world. I'll give you a clue. He's referring to a player. There are Essy's. No, apparently no Ronaldo's think English Rooney's, Rachel, there are hundreds of watts. Beckham's is correct. Afraid to say he's Jamie. The rest of you. Well, what more can I say? It's over. Hey, voice. Yes. Whatever. So that's about all this week. Now. Don't forget to give us a review and subscribe, it's free. So, of course, the easiest thing to do. Join us next week when we look ahead to the biggest baseball much ever seen in the UK when the New York Yankees take on the Boston. Red Sox kinda wait for that, right? Until then keep your everyone. ESPN head in the game.

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Bruce Bochy a Manager Again

Giants Splash

25:11 min | 1 year ago

Bruce Bochy a Manager Again

"Expectations are sky high for the as this year especially with the Houston Cheating. Scandal potentially opening path for the as to win the division. I am Susan's lesser. You can follow along with all the as developments throughout the season on as plus hello and welcome to the giants splash. I'm John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle and we welcome Bruce. Bochy to the PODCAST. I caught up with the giants three time. World Series Champion at Scottsdale Stadium before he left for Tucson where he will manage team France in a world baseball classic qualifying bocce touched on a number of newsy subjects including his views on the Astros signed stealing scandal his new role as giant senior adviser and witch former giant on his wbz roster. He calls our Babe Ruth so last year about this time. Maybe a little earlier you. You're announcing that the two thousand nineteen season afterward would step away and it was kind of out of respect in many ways for Farhan Zaidi. Who's coming in so the story line wouldn't go on during the season if I'm not mistaken and this year you've you've Kinda step back a little bit out of respect for gave Kappler to let him do his thing it is. That is that accurate on both accounts. Yeah I'd say that's accurate you know at the time To step back for managing that was at the end of the eighteenth season in Larry. Nine on what a meeting there. So good idea. Thinking was wasn't home after that where for how became president. But that was part of my thinkin along with a lot of things. You know moving. Leo Laborer under new leader was going to be. You know he should be able to pick his manager but it was more where I was as far as where my head was. You know it was time. Okay no but there were lots of reasons that would just one part of my thinking and so I made that call. I didn't know when I made the call that I was GONNA receive. Say Answer that I did say at the end. But from the other clubs. That was humbling but that was not the plan. The plan was more to lighten the load on everybody. Looting Larry. Fara the players and myself having to answer a question every day or you coming back and so but you know been done and I'm in a good place now and Enjoyed my time ears. Ring Training Watching these players I was GONNA come a little bit later so last thing. I want to be with any kind of distraction in unanimity. They need their their time and space. Will Your presence can only be helpful and as a new a senior adviser about that What what is your role and Who you're out here watching the Games as we speak on Backfield Scottsdale Stadium watching batting practice? Joey Barton Billy Hamilton and others but what? What is your role in? How do you see this playing out? your hopefully Found different areas would ever foreign for home like my plan is to worship pub and had my evaluations of amassed. Again give them. I thought so insane with Minor League side. You know pretty much. Every day had been going over there washing their guys to I need to you know. Get to know the whole system and This year I'll be going to all the fields and not just watching the players and put a face with the name you guys have heard about but Enough I can be a sounding board for the players coaches managers You know that that's what I'm hoping anyway. Then that's my job and So it's hopefully be an asset to the organization in this role and now I'm in a new this new territory and you know dusty did it last year. I remember talking to him last year. And and guys who have done this they all say well. It's it's an adjustment but It's been good adjustment for me. Factors perfect office. You know to come here and spring training and not have any thoughts of Jalis. Thank you did decide and tough. Decisions will with those but Young planning everything. It's been bad to be honest. You know become here watch baseball. Yeah that's cool and also to check in with some of your Your Your Marquee guys over the years you know from from Crawford and belts to buster and Pablo resigned and hundreds back after a year and Texas kind of different to see them in a from a from a viewpoint that you're not used to usually you're up close now you're Kinda seen him from afar. Yeah it is and The and that's been good. I've enjoyed seeing them you know in a little different way as as you just said that you know and I thought it was time for for them to hear new voice and as could be good for them a new manager almost completely new staff with exception of Ronnie. And so they'll go. Here's new ideas. Good fresh ideas too. So that's not a bad thing for them now. We're coming up on some news involving yourself as the manager of team France. You're born in France. Your father got served in the army the US army and you're born there and when he was stationed there and so you have roots there and your name. The manager of team France for the World Baseball Classic. And that's starting up right. Now you're heading to Tucson And you're GONNA it's Kinda cool because it's it's a family affair speak of your father and the reason you have that opportunity to run. The team is because your father was stationed there and now your brother Joe is going to be benched coach with the team and your son. Brett is is going to pitch. I mean how cool is that It's GONNA be. It is the real fun time for all of us. Obviously we we want to win. And that's that's our goal but you know they have bret back in the dugout with me and had my brother in the dugout. Who's never been dugout with me? Except for when we literally as only time I ever played with me four years older than me and you know and always looked up to him. He's my big brother older brother new such a good baseball player You know I just tag along and now the have him in the dugout slided. This were a big reason. Why May I had connection with France? I don't remember much about it. In fact Joe. My brother remembers lot more about at the May he. He was a little bit older when we lived there. But you know when we talk. I said you know my if I can help promote develop baseball in France and That's great. I've been there since I left there when I was a kid. You know my wife and I have made the trip there but You know planning on going back. And I'd like to go to the KADEMI and promote baseball in France. Well that's great. 'cause IT Fred will pitch for the team and There's a possibility Alan Hansen who you had a couple years ago had his best year in the big leagues under you an infielder with Toronto last year in trying to make the Seattle Club. This year he may or may not play but How much do you know about the team? And how will you suddenly take over a team and know the strengths and weaknesses and write out a lineup in rotation? I mean this has got to go quickly because you play Germany believe on March thirteenth. Right I really have nine days to get this Squad ready in I don't know anything about them. I'll be honest. I mean they. They talk to me a little bit about the players. But I haven't met them and it's hard to go on somebody else's evaluation when you don't know them either in and how they evaluate so this dip apart in an example. Is You know Pat Burrow who scattered for us after a while when he'd said something news actually you know what he saw player. What was Mitt? There's some unknown here. Kinda reminds me of that movie that dirty dozen and if you remember when they got you know now call these guys misfits. He had you know. They're not playing professional ball. Some are from Venezuela there from all over there not just French player but they do qualify because their parent was French or nay or somewhere along the line so now we gotta take them and get them ready for tournament and try to beat Germany on the Third Game. So we got a lot of work to do men so Ford made them tomorrow morning where we'll get together at the meeting and go to work. Misfits can be a good then. I remember that two thousand ten club that was a compliment when describing those guys You want it all if I remember ten twelve and fourteen. I Dunno of your favorite in any of those series. You're used to the underdog role irrelevant. Underdog role and prevailed With the underdog role in won three titles. And now you're probably underdog again but this is at a different level. Could your experience in that role. Help you in these situations Hopefully you know we We'll be talking about some of that stuff. We went through with the players Alan Hansen for example. And I'm hoping he goes. He's like our Babe Ruth because he's a professional players so he's an hard my order and my hope is hope is he does make it. We should over sure and a couple of days with the you tried to draw on that experience of you know I'll be talking to the players about some of that stuff but you know what it's It's going to be about work in about putting any effort is no easy way to get these guys ready. You gotta get down get after and is a double elimination and its Six teams and to advance. I believe For France Brazil Germany Nicaragua Pakistan and south. Africa's that right right. Yeah Okay we'll have more of our conversation with Bruce Bochy including his thoughts on the Astro scandal right after the. Hello Heather Knight. Hello Peter Hart Lab. You may have heard from the east coast media and even the White House that San Francisco has literally become a toilet and we completely disagree. The big event podcast is becoming total. Sf and we're going to highlight what still great about San Francisco will interview colorful character share history pay tribute to our favourite. Sf movies and just have fun. Listen for the cable. Car Bell Total. Sf wherever you get your podcasts. I think it was one of your most emotional days as a manager. In all your years was calling your son from the bullpen and him trotting out and you actually give him the ball. The pitch and big league game first time in history. A father gave a ball to his son to pitch in the big leagues. It was John At. I'm getting motion. Dugout a man I got was nervous too but You know and I I did. Time did not realize that never happened in history. The game and that even booed me way more but You know I wish you love your son but You know I know what all he went through. I wasn't drafted high school with Kansas In having Tommy John and We drafted omen End Up being closer rich men. We put a great numbers of Marlene. So this was earned. This was not because he might son. That's the tough part about being the son of and manager or somebody in baseball. Mant answer that question. But the numbers prove that Are Have the evidence that he earned that but still you know to have matt on the mound and go have so many memories of took him through his journey to get to. That spy is pretty special. Yes because special. You have You know your son your brother. I Bet your dad would be proud of this of what's coming up here seeing the the next generation and beyond The in part of this special event and in your father was kind of instrumental in your life. Brought you out to Washington senators game straight. Bribe Ri- right you. If my dad was here he would say no. I'm managing your your gear. Coaching on the basis. I know him because that's what we do. And you know. He coached armed forces and our army teams on base. He was code head coach Then he would be proud. You know you've done my generation my son him and Joe. My brother there so And you know. I'm sure there'll be times when we think about we'll sit around and talk about them and how much he wished we which he was there to see this now. I I don't think you're a big fan of the twenty eight man rosters in September I think he like If I'm not mistaken when the new rule instead of having as many as forty I think twenty eight is the Max You know but I obviously bret earned his way to the big leagues He had some special numbers in the minors. But maybe moments like that and rewarding guys who paid their dues in the minors aren't Possible anymore. What word is that true with John? Mortimer you know bread may not gotten okay Coupla call-ups he probably would not be honest to me. You know I I don't think he was viewed as you know the next the next two or three top guys be called up. And you know I've been in in that situation yet these guys but they go through minor leagues and the schedule that they have to deal with the money that they make you know indicated adventures thirty days in the big leagues. That's something you can never take away into makes everything worthwhile and so it's going to cost some players as that's my position on this Now do I think it should be forty dollars to me? But if get to the point where teams in contention gardeners you look over there. They would have about forty guys then. That's too many but I think twenty eight. That's you know that's tough for those guys. Now you know the hope for them get called up. Its duggleby as big as it used to be. You Know I. I haven't heard any commentary by yourself on the The Astro scandal linked you win the championships and ten and twelve and fourteen. The astros wanted in seventeen and technology has advanced so much. And we've gone so far since then. What what was technology like back in ten twelve and fourteen versus what it is now or at least last year. When when you manage. How far have we come to to see a team like Houston do what they did get in trouble for all cramming John in this game and really the last five years pro bowl how? How much has changed in two thousand ten now? We still had analytics. We've used a lot of our stuff. Computers and opposite. We didn't have the ability to do a Houston. Was Doing Avenue cameras out there. Whatever but you know. That's you know. I think that suitcase with any business You know it's. It's our games that Mike Gaza of the business world and And so as a matter of time before something like this happen it really was. It's unfortunate You know what's really sad about this whole thing you know. They won the world series and seventeen. But now that's a hard rain to where it's hard and say. Hey you know I was world champion two thousand seventeen. Because now it's been tainted as much as they say it has been you know still tainted now who's to say how big a role was overstated. And all that I. Nobody knows you know the whole story but but it's almost like the baseball gods are saying. Wait a minute. They're slow down on this. They punished us a little bit. Well when you were managing before this came out was was. Was there a belief by the Astros or any other team that that stuff might have gone on and it was. There always a defense mechanism to to try to overcome any Possibilities teams stealing signs with technology illegally. Yeah Yeah there's always concern No some point. They have to relay it. So that that's what you're trying to look for in We're always on alert for any kind of whistling or noises or an ice to honest to God truth to three years ago and I'm not saying they used them. I said you know it's going to be a matter of time for someone has buzzer or something on them. You know you know because you look at where we were with technology that obviously every team was capable of doing that if they want to do it now what we don't know who else was doing and right now you don't know and that's the thing but I can tell you there were other teams. Were doing some things or trying to do some things. You just don't have the evidence. O or how far they went with it or they actually used it in games all this stuff. It's it's been going on in the game for a long time. And maybe not quite to this extent but I remember playing the cubs you know in nineteen seventy eight and we had to go through these really complicated signs with we. They have been authors in the outfield. But not just stare Saint Louis Colorado pronounce technology. That's leading the way from Wrigley Field. You'd never know I mean like the old Polo grounds. There's so much out there That who knows where they might be hiding a camera So there's been a lot of talk of removing all technology in game for player access. Like why do you use it during the game? Use It for the prep-work pre-game but don't have any access during the game. Just play the game or would you be in favor of that or or like totally okay. No question to play the game you know and there were times when of course like every club regards you go back and look at their bats. Whatever no-one I would take it away. You know just to try to get two guys back playing the game you know. Sometimes I just felt it was a distraction. Y'All have to go out and play defense year and they're looking at video for five minutes and then you got hit the field. They're coming out. Scramming find their gloves and everything. Well I can focus be where it needs to be some Now I would be so much for not allowed technology during the game yet. I mean that might be coming given what we're seeing here Well John and I'm being honest this is not. I don't want Monte Old Guy you know. Hey you can't do this. Do that at the great for the game. I think we're all learning how to improve. Make plays better whatever but at the same time you know. It's you don't WanNa make the game less entertaining. That's that's my fear. Sometimes when when we're slowing down in You know we're putting stuff up there. The fans don't even know what it is. No when we came up you had its. Rbi's an average and granted is up more numbers in there. More important than adequate average fan wants to see a baseball. Yeah you know. Now it's it's it's GonNa grow and and that's that's great but this this don't overdo it you Were contacted in the off. Season about by the number of teams asking because there are quite a few opening sort of managing. You respectfully said you wanted to step back in twenty twenty and that's what you're doing and now you're a special advisor with the giants now. The last time the giants hired a special adviser was Baker and now he's managed to the big leagues and You know so to ask the question which you probably have gotten before but not twenty twenty but beyond twenty one twenty two whenever you see yourself. Managing again in the bigs. Yeah no I've been asset a lot. You know it's a hard question to answer because I don't know how I'm GonNa React as we get into the season how much I'm going to miss it or one to get back. I made this decision. I'm good with it. I'm thinking about managing right now but You know I may hit me to the point where I'd say cop man I just miss it too much. I love to have another opportunity. I don't know I don't but I met a good place now. I can tell you that and but dusty. I'm happy for him and I know He really wanted to get back to manage. And so some fortune. What happened with silver lining on this dusty used? Get a chance to manage again in a really good team. Is He. A Hall of Fame Manager Bruce. He he never won a world series and it seems like sometimes. That's the prerequisite for a lot of managers You know he's up there among the leaders. Oh probably get to two thousand now. That he's back in. The game is amazing. You see anybody else with two thousand there in the hall of fame. But for whatever reason padlock etcetera a world series title has escaped his resume. Yeah and you know. I don't know how they decide. Managers it's the wearing a little different for me dusty with what he's done he's impacted game and even throw in what you know good player too. But it's pretty good numbers and you're right. He's get two thousand wins and I know this. What's driving me wants to win a championship? Yeah I think he he look as body of work is when percentage. He's really good teams in in a look at me. I've beds. Why hasn't gone? Well met them up years with some things with yeah to me when I looked at some of those managers advocacy of. They're looking good bruce. Thanks so much in good. Good luck in the world baseball classics again. Your new role with the with the giants or Gionta. Visiting this gives me good memories. I'm sitting down here and it's nice here and we're in the shade watching BP his new complex you know. Aaron Spring Training what I had This wouldn't have happened to. I covered you back in. Yuma Bruce when you're catcher with the padres in the eighties at the the Ray kroc complex in Yuma Arizona We've come a little ways a long way. Thank you for listening to this. Episode OF GIANT SPLASH HENRY. Shulman and I will continue providing podcast throughout spring training and into the season. The giants splash production of the San Francisco. Chronicle support the splash and all of the chronicles great journalism by signing up for a chronicle membership at SAF chronicle dot com slash pod.

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Dynasty Values, Sleepers and Busts - Hitting Prospects

Stealing Signs

15:56 min | 1 year ago

Dynasty Values, Sleepers and Busts - Hitting Prospects

"All right. Justin pseudo scout doing. I'm doing fantastic led to be here for our listeners They may not know this. But we are actually recording remotely tonight and many people may think it's because the corona virus you know they say. Wow you sound like you're in the same room but no justin lives in Arizona. Of course. Yeah I mean you're down there with the with the prospects. Of course you live in Arizona there in the backyard. Yes there in. The backyard hopefully not tied up in the backyard. They're just about the ballpark. It's in the basement in the closet. O. G. C. You Go And I'm up in the Pacific northwest but we are a little bummed out about a baseball suspending. The season delaying the season Justin I talked about it and said you know what it doesn't matter. Baseball will come back. We still have information that you want to have to win your league. So we're GONNA do it so you ready to do this. Justin yes I'm GONNA START OFF. Where do use the same format will use before? Who's top contributor? So we're looking at over the next ten years and your Dynasty League for these four categories who. Who are you going to go after my top contributor is Louis Robert and you're GonNa look at me funny or are you going to look at your whatever you're listening to this on and say well did you? Just tell me Tim that he was going to be a bust. I did however that was for redraft. Now if you think about this You know a redrafted. Were really talking about one year but men. Oh man if you invest in Lewis Robert now and you are patient. You'll rewarded handsomely. He just needs to figure things out. And he's understand. Hit that off-speed stuff and he's going to have the opportunity to learn in the major leagues and you know. He struggled a bit in the minors. He had some injury issues but boy when he figured out he went bonkers and I think over time though for talk in four years six years ten years. This is a name that we're GONNA be talking about over and over and over again. Luiz Robert. So that's my top contributor for Your Dynasty League. Yeah that's a good one in fact My top contributor on the same team. I'm going with number. Three overall. Pick and last year's drafts with the white sox first Baseman von. He's got some easy power Looks like he's barely swimming in the PAT and the the ball jumping right off of it. I also has an excellent hit tool which is something that I'm very partial to even over the easy power that he has you know he won the Golden Spikes award out of Cala. Sophomore year. Actually thought he was going to be the first college player ever to win it twice. But a big reason why think that Vaughn's can be the top contributor is because he is truly in a tier of his own when it comes to first base prospects how I mean He. He's so far ahead of anybody else. That's in the minors in place. That same position to where you know I. It's as if autism tier one and then it just keeps down to tier three or four. It's like that you know there's a lot of talk about Spencer Torkelsson coming out of Asu and in this upcoming draft. But I would seriously take Hindu Vaughn over him and I tell you a less. Someone else comes out of nowhere. It has meteoric rise. There is not anything else in the pipeline. You're going to want to aggressively draft him in dynasty because in White Sox know what they're doing with the first baseman you know they had a poll connor for a very long time over there. Who'S ABREU STUD? I actually think that Andrew Johns couldn't be the next guy well so we. We kinda made all our windy. See Defense Feel Kinda Sad On a redraft episode. Now we're saying but wait the white SOX Noord they're building up there and boy. I wish I was a white sox fan now. That team looks awesome. Yeah the future looks very very bright for the south siders. Good for them good for them. That's right so now let's move over to the value. Picks so this is a this is a player that you're GONNA get. You could pay good money for but you know you're going to get good quality results out of it so it's a it's a good value. It's it's going to be a more a a safer bet. If you will justin who do you have your value? Pick you know. I think that you're able to Get Tyler Stevenson. The catcher was Cincinnati. Really late he's got some good average tools across the board and the miners. He's consistently had a low strikeout rate high walk rate It's got a little bit of Pop. I think that he's going to give you about a dozen homerun under so he's GonNa hit around to sixty. You know what I mean. That's not a whole lot different than an modern day. Buster Posey you know what I mean I think even in Redraft Leagues I would be taking tyler. Stevenson over Posey. Who's average into seventy and six home runs over the past? Two seasons I think Stevenson could exceed that I think that Their current Backstop Tucker Barnhart who only bad at two thirty one last year. He's not much of a challenge for Stevenson to overtake this year. So we hit with the vodka. Moose Suarez Casts Janos. He's not one of the high catchers on prospect poured. But that's why I'm putting them into is the value pack. I think he's I think he's going to give you something. That's a fantastic pick in. I just I made sure I wrote down a star next his name so now that you're not set check him out so that's really good In a good thing I started out saying that we live several states apart because my value pick is also a catcher and I picked adly rush men of the Baltimore Orioles. Now this is a switch hitting catcher with identical lofty swings from both sides of the plate. This is really what the fantasy God's envisioned for the rarest of all creatures and offensive catcher right. Now many will say well Tim. What about Joey Bart in effect? I I really kind of thought. Well maybe Joey Bart will will give you the value back that you have to pay for Joey Barton. And he's really good but this really isn't about Joey Bart or well. I guess maybe it is because all I hear is about as Joey Bart Really. He's he could be something special joy part in probably will but he's not going to be as specialists adly and when you have an opportunity to get a guy that can do it all offensively. I mean he plays in the American League. He's GonNa be playing a tiny ballpark. He'll get the opportunity soon even if it's not this year it's definitely going to be the year after and if you can lock down a catcher position and it's going to work for you for the next seven to ten years then you definitely want to do that. And so I picked Adly Richmond as my value. Pick Yeah I. I agree with that He he's got a bright future with them big catcher You touch on him in the Al. So hopefully that will prolong his career allowing him to d. h. every now and then maybe later on in is career depending on how things go throw them out there. I. He's actually the one that took Golden Spikes Award from Inter von last year and Now is for a reason. Ellie Rodman E. It looks like the total package the the the M- our with power that everybody's been waiting for the marrow with power. What you last year was. Hashtag played badly for Ashley Right. Right one for Utah. Wally badly and the orioles definitely lived up to that one. Yeah yeah the now moving over to my bust and my bust is not one player. It is almost all of the top fifty prospects in any list. You're looking at right now. I mean prospects will break your heart. They say that that gamblers are addicted to that moment. Right before they lose and I swear that you and I just in her dicta the same exact feeling with prospects. I mean if you love fantasy baseball you know it's true. You know it deep down your that. Most of these guys won't even be in the majors. In five years some will be platoon players and some will be utility players. And it's what makes prospecting so damn fun and so damn art. I mean if we took let's take a look at the prospects from twenty ten so the number one ranked prospect in two thousand ten in most Lewis. Was Jason Heyward. Oh ouch yeah. Yup Stephen Strasburg has turned into a very very good picture. was number two Giancarlo. Stanton alright some really good years there. Buster Posey Brian Mattis Desmond. Jennings Naphtali Felise Pedro Alvarez and Justin frigging smoke. So there's some good ball players on this list right at talked about Stanton and Posey Strasbourg and when any of those players are healthy they definitely gave you some really great seasons when healthy. Yes but what is Justin smoak done for any of us over the last decade? He had one season. That's it yeah. I think that we have to remember. You know listening to US understanding how we break down. The players is so important because a lot of publications out there. You'll start to see the same scouting reports on a lot of these things and you just have to go deeper and you have to dig deeper and you have to understand what the underlying skill set is. I think we knew that Stanton had the power and when we start to see him put it together with Bat. The ball we said that's a guy that is going to be good but Justin smoak was just a power hitter. Who looked like a baseball player? So I that's my bust. Justin is essentially almost everyone on the list. Yeah unfortunately you're right. My kinda got a thing. You know with a prospect to th two thirds are going to. They're going to break your heart. You're correct I know I can see your broken heart right now. I see it. I've gotten a lot of them so My my bust. I'm actually going bobby. Witt second overall pick last year by the Kansas City royals. So Gosh I mean this kid here is was so much. Talk about You Know Trevor Story comps and how freakishly athletic. This kid is true. Shortstop massive offensive potential. So this kid goes to the Arizona. Rookie League alright. Where he's meeting his seventeen year old teammates or fresh off the airplane from Venezuela and the Dominican and he hits a robust to sixty two with a six seventy. Oh P. S. R. A. So this is going to be the easiest to League. He plays in. This is the guy that the royals pick second overall. And he's setting a six seventy S. That's not good at all He didn't walk very much Strikeout rate was a little high for me. I'm really concerned about the BAT. I think that Him Ebbing these second overall pick pedigree and a lot of hype COM coming. Fresh off last year's draft. I I wouldn't touch it. Do you not a believer in major league baseball. Bloodlines apparently not Although his dad at a nice seventeen she's in career so But I I am willing to bet that. His Dad ended up having a better big league career than than okay so All right so that was your bust. So sorry about that junior But WHO's your sleeper? Who who who was everybody sleeping on? Or maybe doesn't really understand that this this players can be as good as you know that player's. GonNa be you know. I was very high on Vidal Brouhaha. I was very excited to Get to see him play in the Arizona Fall League last last year. Use the best player that I saw. Wow this kid is a freak athlete. He's got more power than he gets credit for. He plays very hard. I mean I I love his all around skill set man I tell you what I looking at a stats watching them play. I think you could look at a Three hundred average ten home runs forty five stolen bases and being short compact. He's bill like Iraq. I I seriously compared to what Tim Raines. Wow that's who he reminds me of short billig Iraq Market Down Vidal Brew Hon-. I don't know where he's going to play. I watched him play shortstop he meets. Max Defensive Moves over there You know so. It's going to be there if it's going to be second based or center field. Obviously you want him to play in the dirt. But Vidal Brew Hon-. I think a lot of people might be a little sour on him because he's not like a thirty home runs threat. But Damn just kids a baller. I dig him. That's awesome. It's I love to hear you say that and I I I love when you play in the dirt to buddy that's This is fun playing in the dirt with you talking about prospects so by sleeper. That that this kid this child this seventeen year old has been comp to Mike Trout and Bo Jackson and Mickey Mantle and Justin. Do you know what this kid's minor league stats are. No you can't because he has none. This teenager is nicknamed the Martian because of his other worldly skills this he seventeen and he's nicknamed the Martian because of his other worldly skills by sleeper. Is Jason Dominguez The New York Yankees? Pick this kid up when he was I don't even had his driver's license at this point. But this is a player to dream on. I mean the the variability is so wide right. Now that's why Mazza a sleeper the Yankees. Have them if you don't have him in your league? There's someone who will very soon you need to make sure it's you if nothing else it's like It's like instead of getting one lottery ticket. You've got a thousand lottery tickets. They're still a small chance that he hits but boy there's probably a little better chance he did and I can't remember. A player has been calmed to Mike. Trout Bo Jackson and Mickey Mantle. And if you look at him he doesn't look seventeen a he looks like twenty two so I don't even know what's going to happen when he gets man. Strong so Jason Dominguez Jamais not. No he spells his name. J. A. S. S. O. N. If you're searching form get him now be the study your league owning before anybody else does. Yeah you're right. It's been a little while cinch Heard this much hype around international signee. That was this young Un assessment has had a lot of hype Coming out of Cuba before Oakland signed. But man this this kid for being as young as he is You're absolutely right. There's so much talk on him and From what I'm hearing Scouter Raven over. What the quality that. He asked beautiful. Well this has been fun. I'm glad that you're doing well. You do and safe and You know I know. A lot of other stuff was being suspended. But I'm glad we didn't suspend this and we're continuing to give the knowledge to our fans justin so you have yourself a good night. let's go Let's do this again. Maybe we can look at some other things in the minor leagues As we wait for the season to start what do you think? It's right so a lot of fun to be had have yourself a good night. All right thank you.

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Mourinho's Tottenham Blow Another Lead

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Mourinho's Tottenham Blow Another Lead

"Welcoming soleil sedition. Espn afc thomas joining the cpi by shack. Heslop and later on in the show. Julie amaral won't be here to talk about that huge game between severe and athleti in league but for now we welcome in native new is with us and i know slightly disappointing for some frank. Leboeuf has a shirt on as he joined things off in the frame. Yeah needle the big story today spurs being rubbish again they manage a two two draw away against newcastle to one up Going into the last stages of this game council. They're getting the equalizer and thoroughly deserving of name spurs considering. They've still got something supply but they still could get into the top four specially chelsea dropping points yesterday but again they just fall short really did and to be honest. I think we need credits newcastle. The fact that they will to down the pushed and pushed and they pushed an overall that football's been criticized a lot recently. But i thought he did well in this game. And they took it to spurs and the spurs side of the moment. It seems like one day they look good side the next day look distinctly average is. I think it's a big blow for them because going into the game knowing that you could be in the top four by the close of play should have been a big multiple. Franck would say but unfortunately for them they didn't they send you didn't show such big occasion but i think it kind of shows between now and the end of the season these games against teams who down on the boston. We're going to be tougher than people realize because desperate times down there and then east many points as possible. So don't expect to get anything if your best since birth. Today in some ways they look at it. They came away with a point yet. That's a crazy thing to say considering other say big opportunities going for you. That's the thing isn't a frank as much as you you to credit new call so good fighting spirit after a horrible few months. For them for tottenham hotspur where they very much got a chance to go into the champions and we. This isn't the first time we've seen this season. Thank conceding in these matches. It's embarrassing isn't it. It is it is but they're not the only one because we're gonna talk about chelsea and so many other clubs davenport unity and the miss it and this seems to be To become an average team at the same time showing that the the the other team is becoming a great team there is no consistency during the season for most teams so maybe must of them except maybe mississippi and the little bit manchester united but otherwise it's ups and downs for for most teams. And it's funny that because we're very happy with the way that we're playing very defensively at the beginning of the season. But they were speaking to each other. They were working hard to other. They were consistent in the way that the way we want to see them playing at the. We're having results. And they were consistent when they start playing. What you studied to play offensively. They lost all those things became image individuals. Were making the difference. And it happened to kane and i will add dumbly all burke today and a little bit reese as well but otherwise. The other players looked support. Devon sanchez was lucky. Lost his food bowl and of this limit of that makes an average performance with the very result in the end of the day so far behind where they should be absolutely. And here's the thing as much as you want to. Credit new costs of show good fighting spirit. I think that freeze almost suggests that newcastle only started to plea or take chances once if on themselves. Don't i thought newcastle was about two teams pretty much from the opening whistle. Gail should've should it. Pat an open totally left out. Then brought a good a good save your resists before newcastle even scored and then spurs equalised treat after throughout newcastle mystique. And as this game progress. And i watch his game the thing for me that that stood out despite spruce having by far the better players individually thought. This game was all about newcastle times. Making mistakes defensively. That's defense has a mistake in a new show that on then going forward. I also a lot of times. Strikers gotten each as we so when they had good opportunities the ended up being their own worst enemy on and this is a team that very well could have been off in the bottom three. Come the weekend results. Where when that weight. I know you take that into consideration spurs players newcastle dominating. From pretty much. The opening whistle all the way through to the end. These to sharing the spoils on you sit back and you have to ask yourself. Did this. team rouge outcoached. Jim renew which in a sentence seems absolutely ridiculous. Even considering but it's the truth was just simply that poor. They were fortunate to get a point just from isaiah marino. Off of the game nate him. And i just wanna get the psyche if you were in that locker room and you heard your coach when artist in the past. You've been so good at closing out. Gangs what's changed. And he said saying coach different players. He's he asked me way. Words and again i think every time. There's a millennial speaks out in the open. I think as a play you have to ask yourself is what he's saying correct or not i think if he's if he's leveled criticism at somebody and and it is correct the place and she doesn't have any leg to stand on but in some cases you know play is very rarely going to criticize. The coach coach always seems to get the chance criticized player and is going to hurt your pride. But i think the spurs plays note themselves. They've been putting out. The season. essentially haven't been acceptable even today to take a two one lead. You not playing. Well you still to close the game out. So i think it's right to be criticized. But i just don't ask marina with the europa league debacle of thank everyone onto the past. Didn't make any of improvement happen again today. What he's doing isn't galvanizing. The side isn't making them any better. Just short tagged not necessarily no not necessarily know because i think going into the next games if it puts more pressure on the players and i think for some of these plays with their pride. At some point. They will step up. I think they know that in two three weeks time there's a league cup final and the pressure is going to be really on for them because if they don't do well in their relying on like what they got for the rest of the season. This is a big sense of pressure. Jobs as i'd into that hoping that that's going to spark within his team and he could do the opposite and say nothing and just accept it but then but those plays that. Maybe that's when they'll they'll just roll over but if they get people that pull this sleeves up then maybe in the future. They'll be all right because let's be very very clear for disappointing. As they've been this season they could have been in the top four but today at this moment in time so clearly for his been as he hasn't actually been tragic. Y'all voice rubbish league. Everyone's got problems at the moment. You look at everyone around chelsea exactly and that. But like i said. Like i said my piece before playing against the team on newcastle negates. The team might fulham brighton. And someone these tough games this part of the season because those teams they know that they're running up opportunities to climb up the table. So with that in mind spurs have this game will probably hard if the spurs and they played say crystal pilots who higher open the table. I guarantee it spurs marina spoken. It's not new is so how are they going to react to the chance. Probably midweek and they've got finally three weeks. Frank how would you react coming out and saying little. I'm brilliant play rubbish. Nothing to do with me. You have a no wonder why does stay too long in every club. He's been too because players. They're going to start to going to stop hating him. And that's the reason why you know he doesn't stay long. What the players because they are in eagle and not be as high as as marinas ego but they haven't eagle and they say okay. We're going to show that that we are better than things and we're gonna make sure go away after that. So i'm sure the tottenham players they're going to go for it they gonna try to win. The league cup butts simply is going to speak out and say we don't want to stay with him we don't want to we don't want we don't want somebody who just trash us and things the best in the world we don't want to work with those kind of people and that's the men. Bb marinas problem issues since he's been a coach and the state. What two three years most. That's what it is. Thanks to self censoring friendly. We appreciate disney. Wakeup appreciative can't go any shot against goals again. Today if you re in the only thing that's keeping you. There is a sense of loyalty to the club is nothing can. If you're a spurs. Can you really blame him. I know you can't listen. I applaud players when the show the sense of loyalty club. For whatever reason because it's so rare into game but truth be told if you re kid and you're looking at spruce objectively. You are trying to decide where my career goes from here. Where do i find. Silverware is nothing of the club right now. That says your own course to deliver civil in any money or significant silverware in any manner. You don't see the spurs team being on cost to win the premier league anytime soon you know spurs gotta champions league final a couple of seasons ago but that ride no seems by far the exception than the rule. You don't see it happening again. So if you're ricky in this in this. Climate of there are very few were class strikers. Very few available. You don't eleven. Dr going anywhere ailing haaland you talking about two hundred million and then this hurricane does your sense of loyalty. Really keep you at spurs much longer objectively. And i'm not spurs fan. I don't see it as we mentioned before of missing the opportunity to move up to fourth after the debacle At stamford bridge chelsea. Just taking a look at how things stand regarding the odds to finish in the top four. Not we talk about that win against brighton earlier or later on less you feel should be okay but everyone now. It's just so much falling over themselves. And according to the bookies it will be liveable who will make it into that. Fourth spot ahead of chelsea west ham and spurs native. Do you agree with that. I consider it to be honest. I consider some of the troubles which they've they feel like they're a distance away now looking at the way. They played against arsenal just yesterday. I thought they look really good and obviously with with the makeshift makeshift sense partnership. But they looked like they were role in the some people. Getting confidence again overall dominates an awesome side which over the past few months of like it's upside to play against so that's a positive sign for them. But i took the say but the question i was gonna ask you guys was when you look at the spurs team disregard. The manager do think spurs team. Who should be in the top four anyway saying we talked about liverpool coming off the back of the seasons which they've had i think they'll find form and i do well but like like i just said do you think the spurs squad is is a force based based on the other teams causes. Well we spent too much first and we have to move on looking at liverpool line fixtures. City chelsea frank. What went wrong yesterday. It was of course is first fee as coach and boy was inappropriate feet. Yeah yeah. I'm not sure about the second year. 'cause on juggled cer. I don't agree with the with the rep. That was on decision and it doesn't mean that you have the right to lose five to tom. Because you you you played ten against living and you you are chelsea and you. I think it was a horrendous depending from from the chelsea side Lack of mentality. And i didn't like the plate. You can make a mistake and on that race for the fourth place. That's the only one and only first and maybe last week you can. You can afford if you want to finish the last four in the first four story so the have to react and didn't lose for fourteen games in a row so you can accept one deficiency but that's the only one the already after react. He would still be incredible escape for west brom wouldn't if they were to avoid relegation but results very much going newcastle's way today managing to get that draw against manchester united brighton. Meanwhile and the moment off safe but of course losing against manchester united today two goals to on brian with the league in either coming back greenwood with the winner late native. We've said this about a lot and not particularly pretty but they do show great. They do show the act to fighting something deep down when needed. Yeah that's that's exactly right. I think if it wasn't a season like manchester city right now would be a true title race on. Because i think it's called the second door this stuff. I think they've lost one game out the last twenty four which is exceptional but it still is a distance atkins wasatch winning more games. And that's much as united really you know they find ways to win. Games is never truly glamorous but they do keep winning they do keep and dookie winning and obviously this is well seems like long gone but you can still try and find some form. I think napkins on thursday defense in the league. That can feel positive. But i'm should involved in tiso races and maybe in the future they will be but that are on now for as much as say. It hasn't always been pleasing on the show the level of sale. Which maybe they haven't had for a few years now. And that's i'm going to in good stead in my opinion. I don't see you tonight. Penalty shah big talking point. I was. If i was. I was i. I think without question Well gets position on. Tommy and i think when i as a striker when you have position you'll suddenly benefits don't so for instance outside of the box you always tell us when across the defendant because the owners then becomes on the defender to avoid that contact otherwise you visit freaking of maybe sending sending-off etc etc in this instance that close to goal. I think we're back has position and mark. Tommy on maguire. Excuse me and i know. The onus is on him to avoid that contact which doesn't think he leans into back slightly and as a result once he catches the ankle which puts well back off hot to be a penalty for me. Frank good explanation from from shock. But i want to agree with him. It's not because you slack you touch a player that's automatically you deserve against you. I think well back mris the ball. Es bullying is food and he misses it yet. We see my wire of is his hand on the on well big shoulder but he doesn't mean that because of that well back mr for me. I think mcguire clips well backs ankle on that forces. Well back to almost kick into the floor is known about the shot on the on the hand on. The shoulder is about the clip on the ankle. And that's what causes well back to missy ball. Well i didn't see that. I saw the replay and i clicked on me but for me was an abuse a really. The interpretation of the we seem. We seem penalty for less than that. And i agree with you and it could have been penalty. And i wouldn't. I wouldn't have said it's a scandal but for me as a former defender would say that maguire doesn't really touch well doesn't touch enough well back and i see well beck having the ball and for me. It was more well back missing the bolden than misha pushing him to miserable. You have the deciding. Vote and them yeah. I'm trying to decide to team. Gore from team. Shocker as is the case it's like it's a really really tough call. I i i kind of agree with to elements here because i think mcguire maybe has touched him but i still believe that anyone could have scored and i think the fact that he's missed the ball he no i think he knows that he should have scored that wherever that contract situation was and he's cry for the penalty as a secondary thing. So i can see. I can see why wasn't given but then in the same breath. Maguire is so lucky to be on the wrong side of the defender to maybe touch him and then from to miss the ball. I'm not not get the penalty against you. Those are all the starshine same time so i if they gave the penalty i wouldn't have complained but then insane breath the rest. That is no parents august. We are probably didn't have enough to just take what that means. The bottom of the table chef night of course are done west brom despite that win against chelsea fulham as well losing today against aston villa puts him in a lot of trouble three points of newcastle newcastle. Also with a game in hand we just reminded extra time has always available over on our youtube channel. Be sure to go and check it out. Good news today. Eight thousand fans will be allowed at wembley for the counter about cup final. Of course it's a match you can see live on. Espn poss- manchester city against first coverage of that match. Saas eleven thirty eastern. Do own or read your home. Share you and i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com fingers in spain today severe beating atletico madrid by one goal to nil the perfect result for both barcelona and real madrid at is blown the tiso race wide open. Don't forget at the end of july athletic ten points player. The top of the table with a game in hand. If boss salerno wins tomorrow that is down to just one point. And he's turnaround of events giovannini keeping an eye on this game severe thirty deserving in the win at least look like a team knew exactly what to do tactically team that was coached and on the other hand. You had madrid teamed up over the place. I thought it was an absolute may look like. We're not really sure what to do. How old they were playing with. The formation was simoni changed pretty much everything. When rent unloaded came off after just half an hour the subsitution in the second. Half taking off to lima an attacking player. When you've seen it in again that you can. You can drew. I guess you can take your point but you could have tried to win it and you replace him by dove. Yahoo pure defensive midfielder made no sense whatsoever to me and in the end via go that deserved really well work as well and it's not for kuni out right back to let bike and that was. That was the kind of thing that we used to doing whatsoever. And the whole ninety minutes korea had the big chance to level the game the end gills seen time and time again. This season in these big matches athleti continued to get it wrong and that's going to kill him and the league in the classic wash next week and hoping between between between madrid and barcelona and then they can go and beat. Bt's and then try to get that margin a bit higher up at the top because if there's a winner in the cusi co and they don't get three points against batiz then shoe store and i think that team though they get behind one of the two others that i don't think that will come by because they clearly lost love confidence. I think they've lost confidence in themselves. And we saw that chelsea fox put it in chimpanzees where they were really below pine both legs. But i wonder if they've lost confidence with simona. Because you said again he's takes wrong. He's decision making during the game. Were wrong again. And you really want to restore cookie or someone you guys. How you feeling about your manage getting wrong every single time in those big games and think all the naughty thing you said about ronald koeman and he could leap pass alone. its legal. You know what i would love to go similarly to find a solution to the problem is having knob change of tactics. Like kundi kumon we. It was not working. Let's be honest we were. We were right to criticize because he was not good enough. That change of formation three the back with funky the young in a hybrid position half amid fit midfielder harvest to bag. Having more sense central striker really missy road that would perfectly the two wing box in alabama and diced perfect and went down to kumon forgotten. And now we don't decide him anymore but you're right you could go and win this one. Which would be an incredible achievement. After how they were up to december really before siemian rene he needs a of cooman eureka. Moment where hang on a minute. This is what we should do and things will improve better. But i'm not sure simoni right now. Dying him go away from that game unfortunate. We've got to cover as well. We'll happen between these Valencia diabe says. He was racially abused. Half an hour into this game told his teammates. They walked off together. The game was then. Stop for a moment. And this is what jose guy valencia defend had to say what happened during that time be told us he had a racist in. So so we all went off the pitch. We were told that we had to play. Because if we didn't they would take the three points off us and maybe we'd be more points Diabe asked us to play on. We wouldn't have done so if he hadn't done so he said he wasn't in the right state of mind playing his his devastates trump can't spanish. Fa coming out and saying that nobody actually said look. This is what's gonna happen you can have three points deducted they just suggested this was the protocol. The saddest thing shortly. Shocker in all of this is dick. I'll be in the stands watching the game. Heartbroken to see valencia valencia. Job points in that they do first of all whenever we talk about these incidents. I'd like to talk about the most positive takeaway from what you saw the if if you could find on. That is valencia standing by their teammate plaza. Black player in that gesture on you. See the rest of the team. Take the field in support of you in that moment and in that i think it encourages impose. Not just you. But that's entire gesture. My who is my belief is that valencia are stronger unit as as a result of it but that it shows the challenge with dealing with onfield racism in an environment where hundred percent of the proof is on the victim. You have to somehow prove that. You've been racially abused without there. Being the mirrors shred of a denial. Let's take the rangers into slavia prague. Recently there was a witness another of the rian players heard the abuse he would report it and while we will investigate there will always be that there will be that continued. Dote a because. It's your teammate. On that is that is ridiculous. Nature of this scenario. He'll that the abuser will always get away with it. Because of that guys point or maybe to the spanish every point that this is a protocol they is supposed to be protocol about how you d would racist abuse and what places supposed to do and what teams are supposed to do so to how would formally or informally sent of alexis. If you don't come out is going to be more than three points again. Kind of goes against all of the discussions that we've been having around this issue for quite some time on the responsibilities of the of the league of the spanish f of wafer of for and we are still having these seem roundabout discussions and ultimately xuzhou abused bearing the brunt and it seems to be the person who's abused then. It's all up to him. What happens next which seems a strange situation to being considering just on for all emotional stress. Surely there needs to be a protocol if this happened. Exact ex- wines eight. The question is what should exactly. I'm this is i think the game has led to self down for so long because one hundred and one percent of the burden of proof is on the victim on the other side of the coin being a black player. Next black player myself. I am yet to meet a single black player who will accuse another professional a racial abuse without him being suited. I am yet to meet any professional. Who will walk off the field before the end of the game. If they don't feel warranted you have seen professionals stealing field. I've nine ten fifteen nil and see that game on. I am yet to see a professional decide that you know what. I don't like how this game is going thirty minutes and i'm going to make up some kind of false accusation against somebody else so and force everybody off the field. I just find it a ridiculous addict position to still be discussing and made no real effort at addressing the issue in twenty twenty one check. I thank you very much Just a reminder that there's plenty of content over on our youtube channel. Go that and subscribe no matter where you are during the masters the masters using the flexibility of a hybrid cloud with ibm to share the tournament with fans around the world. The masters is wherever you are learn more at ibm dot com slash masters. No doubt where the big story in francois said this weekend. Psg losing one against leo. Meaning the little three points clear at the top of the table. Joe's what happened but things. Good things if you look at it. From the point of view were very tactically. They were well organized this on day. Only sean target for most of the game. But they were very efficient in everything they did on the other hand for. Psg there was a lot of bad things too predictable the way they play with the ball. No enough intensity name was backed by as we said before really in terms of match fitness because played for two months and we saw it because when he saw much fitness struggles. The team becomes predictable because every time the to neymar bay. Can't really make a difference because you sure much fitness. And then when you miss the chances that they hold so hard on neil one down. Then he gives you another defeat. Many defeats now for put schettino defeats for the season. And don't really have the has not because three points behind lead with seven games to go frank name grabbing the headlines for the wrong reasons. Yeah exactly. I can understand what drew says a is fitness. He's not as the top. We doesn't mean that you have to misbehave. Have to realize that players they're gonna dig under look for you because they know that you're going to react and that guy is not learning fast enough. I think i. I don't know if he's going to no one day and you can see every time that he has. He has a players coming. Who's coming to him is going to react immediately. I would have loved to play against him because every time i play against him to going finish ten against eleven. It's too easy. And he's a top player. He has the talent that he has but that problem he got so many yellow cards and even peppy the the former real madrid players as less europe than him. It's impossible to ever curry like that. And you just come back. You make stupid mistakes. You get two yellow cards red newark news so you don't get your fitness back for the maybe the game on wednesday. That guy is just a spoiled brat. He doesn't show a does he's a grown up and he wants everybody to take care of him because he's a talent. It doesn't work that way. You have to prove your talent. You have to prove that the respect everybody knew respect the football and he doesn't he's twenty nine years time is running out thus for sure listener franchi's right. Of course it's too many red cards now. To the point he goes into for two years so the first yellow could have been read when he pushed amounted the captain in the face. That was very kind from the referee. I think to only give a yellow. Then he gets the second yellow the argument with which continues into the tunnel. The dressing room they have to be separated etc. But the there's been too many red cards this season so what should be just one one much ban at the weekend against could easily become now because he had some suspended games that he would have been banned for before the two or three much. Which again for a disaster for him for fitness wise is a disaster because the two games coming where he will play out of fitness. I'm not sure how much he would have. An influence on those games media should be this fine the leader for. Jeez so. It was a dramatic afternoon. Really we're talking buying gaming amendment joe's just regarding their reports that there's contract talks have been halted by team. Yeah we're not really sure i'm saying is all agreed and just waiting for the right timing to announce it upon as he's been injured so you don't really want to do it that way. Now he's red card is hard to announce something like this now and maybe they are maybe question marks on his side. Maybe the new. Psg side things that we we don't really know we know brief yet over. Why the contract negotiation. Who were so they was done. That's what we were told we four six weeks ago and still hasn't been announced nothing has been announced. So maybe there's actually you write an issue somewhere whether that's on. The club on his part is the reason why they haven't announced it yet. Of course as you mentioned for. Psg next champions against defending champions by munich via munich. Sixty four on joe's. May i put my house on by me. I can't say and i haven't seen enough from. Psg this season suggest that they can get anything out of these legs and you would be right against. But if he's from the first in barcelona or even the game against the own which was maybe the best game of the season with intensity that the high praise the counter praised. Very fictive in both boxes. Kidding about the is as to who again is clinical more than he was on the weekends. Then they have a chance by. Don't have lived here. You don't have variety maybe losing variety. He's bigger than than buying losing live on dusky but would be willing fit. Garesh karen kimmage against than alone. Gay i guess but peers. You will have to have two games almost perfect. If they want to go through is not impossible. Of course they would have to pay farmers better than what we saw today. We know they have to play pat and frank. We know they have to do it over the two legs. The big question is can they have. They got the character within them to put into big performances. Against one of europe's best they were capable of being great against your and and the first league game against the bustle and a because of two reasons because the play together because they fought together and because verity was in the middle of the park moore. Variety won't be there on wednesday. And i'm not sure we should against lille the capable of fight of being able to fight together and you know i wouldn't put neymar in the first eleven because he's out of shape because it's going to create trouble because it's not it's not gonna work defensively and you can play with four offensive players against munich away from home. It's impossible and the first choice of the four that you have a front for me would be obviously nemo to be put out. Because is no ready. Do you agree. Jews won't happen but the out much fitness of course mosey cain despite how having it's not long ago and had the mario and then by far fitter fitness for much fitness more than name. Our name is the most talented of them. Four and and and you cannot play for a game like this because he can play. But i don't know what should you can do. Should you move to a four three three and maybe drop mosey. Ken and play by central. Who can run in behind highland from munich and how you don't have variety but three quite defensive midfielder for the first leg to be against kingston. I think for me. That's why we do. With very tempting of changing his mission to go with the three three to be more solid in midfield and use the pace of mbappe essentially not how wide like like he would normally do jobs the most donna. Sorry sorry. i'm sorry. But if i don't know i just wonder why which came if it was to babysit name and the rest of the of the squall because it's obvious to everybody. I live in paris. i took too many parish fan. Andy fed up with name or they really question. The do to see particularly is a real leader. Because out of shape because they played by munich. They don't play lille. They don't play barcelona the play volume munich. The defending leaked champions league champion. They gonna play because he's just talented and we all know that is not enough to be only talented. The because only talented because the most pay player has to play by name. I don't know why. If i'm a coach i will have a discussion with the name. Listen to me man. You know radio you shape i wanna go i wanna go through. I wanna win against miami. Nick and i don't think you ready for that so i'm going to be on the bench. You all coach or you babysitter. I just want to know. But then how do we see those above portraits. He no reacted that decision jewels. That's right and listen. This is what happened. Spurs qualify for the champions league final in one thousand nine hundred hurricane. He's not fair staff defined. He's your best player. He's the final a new base. Lucas neurologist you hahtrick in the semifinal second leg to get you to the final this. I think this is what football this happens in. Football your best player. Where he's fully fully much or no will play. This is a babysitter. No baby manager manager. Everybody would do it. And i think you know we'll do it again and and you're right dan. There's of course a question mark over. How qatar would react if name who could play who is to play. Not much feedback to play left on the bench by put schettino. I'm not sure they would like to own a lot. More of course from gills on the latest version of the cabinet gills. Podcast but drops on monday so much for discussed be sure to download it. Hi there this. Is julie foudy with my co host lentils owie from the podcast laughter permitted. And we're here to tell you about our sponsor ally. Lynn and i are actually customers ourselves. And that's why we're pumped to have teamed up with ally from the very beginning in jules. I think it's safe to say that. 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My friends do your banking online with ally anytime anywhere. The name is the mission. Ally is your financial ally. Let them make your money. Work smarter while you get to play which for me means more time to surf and hang with my sometimes. Adorable kids visit a. L. l. y. Dot com slash savings to learn more ally bank member. Fdic that's it the of today's show. Thank you very much to everyone who is being on but be sure to stay tuned for extra time. Well we'll be discussing amongst other things that photo that the leboeuf posted on instagram eighteen welcoming sedition of extra time. Thank you very much field tweets. One subjects is very much dominated a lot of questions that we received today shocked with means. Studious native is with us. House as frank leboeuf. Who posted the picture on instagram. Look ladies and gentlemen book. Frank just give us some insight into this picture. Where is it all you wearing. Anything below the picture line. Why okay that was at the gym. Yes yesterday and It was up to the gym. In fact it's risking room. And i was wearing shorts rights and And that's my hand sticking pitcher wondering. I'd i love i love. I love the the shade of the of the teacher and the body. Just saying that if you keep on working out you cannot results. That's that's good nate. I'm gonna follow suit this week. Absolutely not no currency franken. Maybe i'll post but for now i'm just gonna keep on that israel. We see stevie ought to be checking. You must say made me feel Given that when it gets your usage could be The locker room like tuning out there manager does training and meeting different just going through the motion surely must be happening at spurs with marina one hundred percent one hundred percent. Now you can't you can't escape it once was like one or two people might have a bit to send but it tends to be people playing but when the people who are playing start to lose a bit of trust in the manager you start to see it. It doesn't feel the same when you arrive. You being told to do tactics doesn't feel the same. You go out to a game. Things aren't going well. You don't have the trust that manages gonna do something to change it and feel like it's the players almost versus the management and when that's the case things never seemed to go well and they don't last very long so as far as i go now i think they're looking out because they can still win something but if the talent was less than i in this season would be complete write-off native i was listening to an interview with joey barton talking about his time at pr and how much he hated. Mark hughes you must be next time. What was that dynamic to be. Honest is great. They said that. Because i hate to joey barton so he was all the same stuff he he's he's a very. He's a very unique human being and i stress. You need in fights. We'll call him. We'll call mom. And i really like my but some people do. Wow so far. As that goes he had his own ideas and he would suggest things do certain things and he wasn't always a popular thing or a popular person and he was inside the dislike. Everyone's but like i say in the same breath was doing the best that he could. And as far as nancy goes wasn't much reason to hate him and not time tactically or whatever. You can buy shoes. We bought these monitoring now. And i'm sure he's He's finally understand that. Maybe it's a bit trickier to pass on a message. To twenty five plays as opposed to be the one player who sometimes criticised criticizes the manager for pretty much every single day in training for a whole season because nathan. They were talking about and getting sent off in the in the big game against manchester city. And they were saying that he just went straight to the back of the bus basically didn't interact with anyone because he didn't want to celebrate mediocrity. You didn't want to celebrate surviving relegation. Then you almost go into and five percent me now serie so a lovely evening honestly these are the things you like which are hard to understand him because he does have those damn visions but the fact is he was planning off and then that last game of the season we'll plan to stay up and when you do stay you people would lose their jobs if they went down not just plays but staff cleaners people working in the cafeteria about type of thing so it mattered foot. Some of those plays they had never played at the highest level before so even finishing seventeenth was the highest position. That have a finished in. The car is so when you think about it you need to have. I think within football the more empathy have the more you can. You can enjoy and understand what's going on but he's obviously driven by whatever he's driven by the master is you never finished them. It's all four. Don't think finish top six. And he's probably been relegated four times as well so even though you don't want to celebrate seventy five bet you didn't celebrate finish in the bottom. Three moving on should alternative. I don't think you will. I think i'll tattoo will at least next season and astle rightly an improvement. And that's where he'd be judged but to the to the To the pointed question also awful rainy paddock and gen jen. I was telling you. Good friend of mine is a huge austin on june. The i techs. I'm like awesome planted deeper. It'd been attempts now. I don't know where he is to be nice because he's london but that was just my in just watching a game. I'm thinking awesome even tried to get to the half yet and i'm that speaks volumes when your club with those i'm bishops. You guys have where you are right now. Your club with those. I'm bishen put things in please. To maybe make a better renovate next season. I knew come up against still defending champions. We're having an awful time and that's how you play. I think rightly. Ask questions of touchup. But he'll be given at least next season tied to them. Nato who is the most improved player in the premier league. This season while. Oh my goodness. I will say look show would be now. But he's he's he's been a few years and obviously he's had his issues but there was one point when he was he was very good. But i'd dominic albert lewin because then he has gone by never really being spoken about being a toddler this year when when he doesn't play forever it's and i think there there are poor aside so for that to be the case for england. Now i've got to put him in conversation at that look shows playing for england as well now named him. Yeah and he was doing it before whereas was not to be really really really interesting. I can't wait to meet you in person. Kind of way. Sounds layla threatening and sack of the conversation camera. No joey joey join bari with her new friend but the definition of improved. It doesn't if good in the palestinian rubbish you judge on how well you were this season. Two loss and luke peanut different player. Isn't he. okay so thank you. So who do you think the most in free play in the jimmy johns child. Yeah very only contribution frank. Would you like to contribute. Also we'd be my friend. I would love to Is the right spot but What about what about mao. No giant previous good law season. Frank honey comes to you. And i know you'll became come on. He became better improve comfort. That was a question. Improved know bring through last year. Whatever native secretly celebrating when esguerra scored the last minute winner. No absolutely not absolutely not if you look at the video put my hands on my head because i thought we were going down in that moment and for the equal opposite so they've scored the winner and they're they've won the league in the last minute last minutes off the season for as i thought we were down in the last minute the season so i was devastated but twenty seconds later when i saw everybody else celebrates it on our bench and with our way funds stadium there was a sense of relief and to go back to what i said about the joe biden thing. Nobody will celebrate now. We were relieved. The difference between audrey during the city one biz as they had champagne. So let's just put into perspective. It was a relief to be staying in the premier league. That's that's the biggest thing. Frank do you think that dhabi's football rivalries have lost their true age and face this now compared to past darby matches as opposing players and now hugging and bantering with each other definitely definitely We could could feel the aiders Around the Around the field Well these series is special. Because you don't have defense so you don't have the pressure of the fans on top of it that he's true that the players don't really cared before game where they don't we were at the time we don't talk to each other because we want to create that die kind of feeling that we are ready to die for the clever ruffling. Four and i played the classical I didn't play. The derby was chelsea because the real derby with his film was in championships. But up against wimbledon i played londonderry's leads needs as well. Yeah yeah it's yeah. That was that was that was pretty intense. But you know the the deal. Austin dot com. I don't feel the same kind of pressure between the players. And and the fact that they hate each other going to fight for the fans and manchester debbie as well liverpool against manchester. It's not the same is not the same. As before i don't know i think dhabi's to have real value in the game. I think players just brush it nato. Such show hansson okay. I think i think it depends on the because say for the the north london one that seems to be based on pretty football. But there's some places where you'll go and play with. The quality of football is the main thing. Like if you watch a new customer versus sundell and game from times gone by those games aren't about maybe five hundred passages about the commitment and you representing the people in the beliefs of the tame. Same for the cost darby and things like this. There are certain games when you play for the club. That is the most important game and as a player. You can never escape. That was just the dhabi now. Yes it's a big game but it's one chance to get three points in a season where you're trying to win. A league buzzer saying some of the places. It means everything and overawe there are still some good dhabi's worth watching final question. brings up. You'll questionable temperament made him just saw the video of your fights with ebron him image in. Mls well happened this unless be very very clear. Let's be very clear. I just like to post did on instagram. so it's not real wars. Nothing going on but in that moment one big difference found between them. Less ambien in england is always. There's a level of respect between players but it doesn't matter how good somebody is. The fact is if you play against them as your team versus there's and he crossed the line in my opinion on the pitch that day. I mean he tried to come into our dressing room after the locker room after the game. And he's tried to basically little boy me says icon. Calm down yet. Fear fears because we just lost the game and in the nature news in the last minute basically. So i wasn't happy so i politely politely asked him to leave the dressed in the locker room as quickly as possible and please go to his section and he got a few words back in essentially. I tried to put market down to show that this are so this is our team. You don't allow somebody to walk in just because they're a big star because of the matter is they're still the opposition. I think about any kind of change. The tell for the club was then because they understood that even though as i say he's the probably the biggest star in the league at that time it makes no difference because you've you've all the right to be on the same field as them so treat yourself respect and don't be won't all over. Where does he stand on the momma scale for my goodness gracious me. He split him into can look at his football and achievements his personality and football football achievements ally chocolate. He's personality literally mom and for me. I'm not interested one that we don't have former. Do we know we don't you. It's like a yeast extract that they have really. He's not how anybody can let. Horrible stuff waco frank. Did you like it when you lived in england. Did i like the mom might. Did you ever happens at all of himself and not for to shock. Go ask the is another level. Thank you very much for that frogs. You see it on your screens tomorrow. Like mama you love or hey do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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ExtraTime Radio: Fireable offenses and RSL/NYCFC

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ExtraTime Radio: Fireable offenses and RSL/NYCFC

"I don't like this business preaching to fans. Calm down. Greg soccer. It's soccer. Anything about. Porch. Got a lotta doesn't matter of you in the stadium watching the guy's good guy. Just not good. I don't know if you're you're pigging New Year's resolutions. But you don't wondering if maybe you pledge to come out of your shell little bit in two thousand fifteen his meal. From New York New York. You are listening to time radio siriusxm channel ninety four and MLS soccer dot com. I am Andrew we and the recent sad sad day actually sound very cheery. And I I was I was going to explain why you're cheery. Well, maybe you. Say it's a sad day. But here's the deal. It's a great day in New York City. It's sunny, it's warm outside. The birds are singing, it's raining a little bit rain at all never raining. Josh is the guy who will be canned after this show. We're going to say goodbye, you know, we'll have a good bye beard, go off into the sunset the guy the gasman Goss. However, you wanna put a you're gonna lay yourself to a small little tumble of red wine. No, I'm not coming to celebrate. You this is your downfall. We might as well explain it's a big show for us leaving because we had a great show. Kyle beckerman interview completed we did the whole thing. He. Great. As always you. Let us it on his his new book club venture that I suggested that he's definitely not going to do. He just read. Some Ernest Hemingway Beckham is the get of the wheat with ourselves NY. She if see over the week free Jason Kreis return reach it's the get of the weekend. And then we hit stop on the recorder after a great interview. And it just went straight downhill, and who do you blame that on the producer guy originally the running the knobs? Controls a sound engineer. Yes. The sound engineer. Look we had a Greek Kyle Beckman, we'll do our best to relive it. And then we'll, you know, we'll put together a best of the gasman for next episode. I hope it's recording right now, quite honestly, that'd be great. I think our listeners should also chime in as to whether they think this is a fireable offense. They are as much part show has lost a great interview. It's their show. And if Simon Borge does anything fireable fence, or I you can also chime in on that as well. Be very interested to hear your take on that Simon's looking a little bit less. Sure. Sivan rather enjoy more of a dicta- to'real. Yes. Yes. I think that's that's the position. He failed us you absolutely ever been fired from a job. That's a good question. Now at two have been fired. Now, I have don't last line since that's not sure that isn't true. But I had a good time. Exactly. And I've been everywhere because I've nine part time jobs at the same time. I had one instance where I missed a day of work because literally wasn't on my calendar. I know I was mortified and they asked me if I wanted to continue and just never responded, and they never put me back. Yeah. So that that that right? Oh, they don't go down on the reference. Never respond. Oh, no. It's just the moment of just walk away. Because Sabi once the moment goes have you ever been fired from a job? Yeah. Multi IRS cooking the books. I will not say where it was. But I was fired three days into the job. Can I tell you this can I get Odin I'll tell us. No. And then I use my political ties to clearly in Malta to get back into the job. I was gonna guess it was like something where he was like like Brooks brothers as a seller and he was just like incompetent. But like his dad's friend owns the place. I think it's much more nefarious than that. First of all silence, dad, probably doesn't own guy. No guys who Brooks brothers stores. Is that class war? Bottom line. David, Danny to know what it feels like to get fired. I believe you should get fired for this. I want our listeners to tell us whether this is fireable fence. I I like the idea you wasted. I'm going to do we're going to talk right now. I'm gonna cut this off. All of the week is going to be whether you should be fired. And I like the idea of all of this. Because if I don't get fired I'm still here. But if I do so easy to sue you guys over put it out there on television radio publicity experts to it there. Look, there's less Simon. We're going to talk about what a cow beckerman said. Hopefully, we'll do him Justice. But before we get there. Let's start out with the game on Wednesday night sporting KC, four New England to Dave make sure you make good points here because this is for you a big win for sporting KC. I don't think a lot of people saw this coming. They had a lot of injuries on the back line people wondering what is up with the tack? We'll dumped wire find himself who is this Christian guy. And he's just a flash in the pan turns out, he's not he gets a couple in this game harbor with a penalty. I wanna get your opinion on that college. Just the second Simon and Dwyer with an amazing goal. New England got run over in a sense by a you know, a couple heavy bits of pressure from sporting KC. I don't think it was all game long. Although this game was back in. Forth. Is this a sign from Casey? Or is this off night for New England. I think it's Kansas City's attack finally come together. I felt. Dom Dwyer has been off most games Christian has been off most games today on that day, they were firing altogether. And I think they were all high quality that dumped wire was a high quality finish the Christian Neth Heather was hike. Finish numbers is a quality player. I mean, he's a guide Liverpool. Went after him for a reason. I don't think the quality's ever been in doubt with it's the consistency. And then he'd do it in the preseason to score two games to one game and then disappear. And the question becomes consistencies the issue for all of the attacking player any fail Hubbard they all came together on. But is it going to be in this game? Are they going to be able to find ways where one guys on the other guys aren't and they can win a game? Or does it have to be that everyone comes together for that one game? And they just hope that they get in the playoffs and that's a playoff game. Look when grabs Lucy comes back. I think you look at that front line. And all of a sudden it got it got a lot better benefit Hubbard behind pulling the trigger. Sunny, must've are starting to show that maybe he can be the answer defensive mid which they haven't had since. Zero so left you put Naga Marin between that's good on the other side. I wanna know about this PK simonize Sumed. You watched it being replay guru here for me. This is never ever a PK and explained to the listeners house Dom Dwyer's in the box. He's turning he's he's on kind of the side of the box. He's headed toward the line. He turns away from goal to go the opposite direction Consol vase. He does get an arm on his shoulder a little bit off balance, but Dwyer's up and playing again as if nothing happened almost immediately. If there's any disadvantage, it's completely fleeting. So well, I felt that solves got a touch on the ball. But look as a referee in that moment, I think you have to say is it are you calling advantage or not? And is it a foul? Absolutely. It's a foul now. So then the next step is are you calling an advantage and the referee here did not he felt that Dom Dwyer was ham. Enough that didn't make any point to call advantage at that point. That was a foul if that happens in midfield. It's a foul. No, I agree. But it doesn't allot that I guess this isn't a good way of arguing this. But I think this is a lot that happens in the box that would be a phallic midfield isn't. I think that goes back to what we were talking about when we had a referee episode, and that is game management, and almost like a common sense factor. You know, what I mean, like if it's not a clear penalty, and you're just saying, okay, that's a foul midfield. Therefore, this is a penalty. I don't know that that logic for me matches up. I still think that the rules are a little bit different in the penalty years, and they should be because that's a game changing call what you're asking. Is you want to hit the ground to hit the deck? 'cause if he falls on your here with Dom Duarte, Sean if he falls are okay with the penalty, then okay because the play's dead at that point. But I Don to our for staying on his feet, and then you see Jermaine Jones in him. Yep. And back and forth afterwards. Jay heaps, head straight. Down the tunnel after abusing the the fourth official. I mean, this this changed the game. It was just before half. I think we want referees to call penalties. Even when the players stay on their feet, otherwise you're encouraging a culture where players go down easily agree because then otherwise, not only do they go down easy. You're asking the player to self referee, which I think has always been an issue is oh you did such a good job to stay up. It shouldn't be his job to decide whether to go down or stay up should be his job to play and the referees job to make the call regardless of how the players will your was Simon. This was brought Dave around. Yes. I don't know that this is a clear foul. So that I'm fine with the staying up in Dom not going out. I don't know if it's a clear fell. It's the hand on the shoulder. And that's the foul. Okay. I think what happened here is. It's a makeup because there was an issue with a little bit before dumped wire got called for a couple of files that were similar in which he gets his arm around Germain Jones, and he wasn't happy about those. So for me, this is a call that's made from the calls made before it. Anyway, I don't agree with it. Jim. Jermaine Jones in this game. By the way, didn't look like centreback. He had some serious issues with sporting Casey's front guys. We'll see what happens with him there. Let's move onto the weekend. This was a good one. We're not gonna get a US open Cup travel. Yeah. We probably should be. S open that the third round is set. What is it may twenty seventh when we played the big game matchup that ever to be looking for is to yoursel pro teams. Sorry, use L teams. I'm still living in Simon Borg's nineteen ninety eight that'd be being alias embers to Yasser timbers to Seattle. Sounders. They will go head to head in his third round. That's a big matching to not there. Now, I went and watch their game. It wasn't very well played. But jersey express played very well. Congratulations to them make sure to look it up, go on US soccer dot com. And there's a game near you to go out a fun tournament. Red bulls to went out and so two LA galaxy to. I mean to me you can't go out if you're those two teams, especially from those two markets, also what go down to inferior competition. Well, I don't know that you can from lower Lear competition because you've never seen them play. But what happens is you have to teams that a large part of their roster week in and week out his MLS players loaned down. And if you're put on the bench for US open Cup game your Cup tied so the galaxy and the rebels aren't going alone. There molest players who have been playing for for some of them week to week for these teams who plays from red gills to no one came from the molesting. And so it was all players who are on their US roster as well as some kademi kids, they two sixteen-year-olds on their bench. So it was more of a developmental roster. And especially for Los it's a little different for red bull suit. This team's never played together before. So this is their ninth game all-time they've never played without the MLS guys. So it's still a coming together process. Here's a little new. On that front had redwoods to one. They would've faced New York Cosmo's. Of course that won't happen. New Jersey express will the game was supposed to be played in jersey, though, it was supposed to be played in Newark at the New Jersey institute of technology out there. I was about to say hall. You don't have to say. Yeah, that's true. It's a good point. That will not happen. There was some talk on Twitter about perhaps the Cosmo's quote unquote buying the game. And maybe the express selling the game. Well, that's not supposed to happen in the US open company more. It did not happen. It's going to be played at the Cosmo's ground because NJIT is going to be under construction next week and therefore is not fit for a US open Cup game. So the Cosmo's ground that's actually Saint John's university, you know, what they clean former stomping ground and the start of the career Simon hell board L. I dunno. I had to go pick up his middle name. Let us know. What you think is middle. Name might be. I want guesses on that one. Anyway, let's get onto Friday Columbus, Chicago is going to start. This thing off on union at eight pm. Eastern. And I look at this game at I is this. I wonder if it's a rivalry. And I don't know it just hasn't gotten kind of the buzz that a lot other games have even Toronto. Columbus has gotten the buzz. There's been travelling fans big numbers from Toronto even a little bit of animosity. So I mean, you're the expert here they haven't had a buzz back in the day lost. I think it needs to regain its suppose needs to regain its buzz price. What has happened for to regain suppose? I think it needs these big game speaking. Yes, this is a little bit early. So it's not a huge game. I'm going to shoot out a tweet actually see what people think about this one. See we can't get some crew fans in Chicago fans. We'll revisit in just a bit. But the big news. I think around at least these teams for me is Mike McGee. This is a former most valuable player it seems like he won't be back this week. But it'll be back next week. We'll talk a head a little bit where will he fit in in context of this team? So I'm gonna love David com. He's not coming out of the lineup. I love David Perry. Ship. Kennedy nica, usually. Kuoni Hannity really because I was going to say I think that he could be the guy that comes in for Mike mcgee's at his best. He showed it during that NBC's. He's in the box when he's the final touch when he's the finisher. I don't think kids that guy. And I don't think with a calm on the field that you need to be the driver. So to speak of the pace to me McGee comes in off the bench for either Maloney at attacking mid or for ship wide, mid that's us McGee at least for the first month. Yeah. I think it's probably going to be tough for him to start in the beginning. But between ship Ivana Nikkei and McGee. I think you have three players for two positions, and you can kind of rotate because I don't think ship right now. I think ships struggling week to week having to be the guy, and I think it would be good to be able to release a little bit of pressure. He's not being asked to beat the being asked to be the guy. But he doesn't have to be the guy who else David ACOM is. But outside of David. Maloney's not right now, you have Maloney on the ball a common the ball so ship has to wait his from what he has to wait his turn on the ball. So he's not going to dominate games as he did when they didn't have Maloney aura, calm down. I'm in between both of you. And I'm not the calm lever. That both of you are I think he's really explosive things. Really exciting. I think right now, he's he's Dominic d'oro. He's a guy who runs away from everybody and doesn't have the final product in the bucks. So until he gives me that final product I withhold judgment on him. We'll see what happens to Mike McGee. Let us know. Fire fans. Let us know crew fans what's up with this rivalry does it manifest itself in the stands. Do you guys have rivalries on Twitter? What do you how does this work because this seems like the rivalry that both teams would latch onto there's not much not much else to turn off seventy four points between the two of them Chicago fire game enhance his into Holi within four points of each other offer position look Ellie galaxy not in the playoff now playoff field right now. They are going to host the Houston dynamo. Ten thirty eastern on Friday. Also in was I mean to him. Yeah. You've been a little bit mean here. But the people at home decide whether or not he keeps his job. I'm currently tipping toward the Dave camp. Of course. You guys, you know, it's it's a friendship thing. So, you know, I don't know if I have to tell you about friends if you invited him on your vacations, maybe your camp style. So I mean is going on vacation next month where we're not exactly sure he won't tell us. But I'd love to hear your guest said LA hosting Houston. And I have this. I always look at L A. And I'm like are they they play bad. I think is Bruce Arena. Just doing the Roper dope. Is he just like he just trotted out there? Trying to get draws trying to play the game safe. And they're going to turn it on in the second half of the season. Or are. They actually not that good. And right now, I'm wondering if they're not that good. I know they don't have Robbie Keane. No. They don't have seniority won't be there till July. I know they don't have Omar from week to week. But when those guys come back is this team really going to be good. Are they really going to be top of the Western Conference quality? I think so I think Robbie king changes. They're holding remains to be seen. What kind of impact even jarred has? But we've seen what Robbie Keane does to this team is movement. He comes back into midfield. His post play all seen Robbie Keane with Marcello service and Landon Donovan. I I know what you're saying. But we did see him for little bit at the beginning of the season. And they weren't great. But they were better offense ity. And I think that you know, he's still going to be able to play. Well, I think also he's a big key for jesse's artists, which we talked about I think he unlocks him. And it's not just those guys Robbie Rogers and done of intimate hurts your body who sits playing left back, which no one's comfortable with. I really don't think Tommy Meyer had a tough game. So there's a lot of missing pieces. And if anyone in the league can turn it on later in the season is Bruce Arena 'cause we saw with the starts few times that they start MLS place low, and then he's able to turn it on and get his team going at the end of the Stephen jurors will be a big piece for them. I mentioned service you will slot right in their next to Janina you'd expect. Here's the thing. The only fourteen games max, according to my calculations with Gerard and regular season. If he comes in from the very beginning of July, his first game could be although I think the the window opens up on the. Eight, but I believe that's out of contract players. So we'll see what happens with all that I'll get some clarification on that here soon, but it could be either July fourth at home against Toronto, which would be a massive game or the seventeenth at home against San Jose. Both of those big games for LA. So keep an eye on going forward mentioning Toronto. They're going to host Portland five eastern on Saturday, and they're going to do with Josie out. He is out for four to five weeks. According to the club a strained hamstring where we heard that one before how will they cope looks like who's going to be up top. It's Luke more probably. But I think it should be robbing Finley. I think it should be Robbie Findley with the sorry on Jackson on the wings Robbie Finley clearly as a winger sorrow, I think brings us spark when he's in the game. This is a team that's probably going to have to be solid at the back of they're going to get results with Simon's about to jump down my throat with Josie hours patiently with Josie. I mean the way it's been already they haven't been that explosive from for the most part, which is going to have to be solid at the back. They're going to have to defend. With numbers to do that. And they're gonna need Jamaica, a sorrow and maybe Bradley to give them a spark individually to get goals. I would love to see bright Deke though, regain. Gosh man, leaving forgotten. Your is not in my I don't think he's even their Nigerian international is at San Antonio. I they might be able to recall him, but I'm fairly certain bright diga to me is the player. I would like to see Luke more and Robbie Finley are, of course. Excellent players, but bright decays speed is movement is run behind pair that with Juvan co. I think he could be he could be dangerous and take advantage of the opportunity Toronto San right now is Michael Bradley will be moving up the field. He's going to be an attacking midfielder for them going forward at least for now. So that sounds like a bad idea. I think it's more more. Explain explain I think that there's this German coach who coaches with one of the national teams in cockatoos tried that and we've seen how it Michael Bradley is phenomenal. When there are runners in front of him. Michael Bradley doesn't normally create with his feet. He creates with his vision and ability to slot passes into areas that defenders don't anticipate he needs runners. In front of him the farther forward, he is the less players. There are in front of him for him to me not already go through this one the national team played how well Michael Bradley played. And how how we found finally found his position in a diamond at the at the top of the dime. Ed, according to Greg Vanney, it will be a diamond I don't know about. I worked perfectly okay apps absolutes here. Maybe not your best route. I I'm not sure I agree with that quickly. We forget the games one Mexico friendly when they tied to two and the game preview prior to that. Which was that? I don't know you tell me everybody around these played. Well, he was good against Turkey in that position. But most of his telling balls came from a little bit more withdrawn, and you had guys like Fabio Johnson making runs that he can put the ball into. We will see what happens. It's a big gaming. It's Portland on Saturday. Of course, maybe the biggest game of the weekend for personal standpoint. In y CFC are cell NYC headed to Utah. They will take Jason crisis too. So he's Richard into his roots? Here's what he had to say about it. A lot of incredible memories. There a lot of very very close friends and special times, it will hopefully be great occasion. I'm a little more focused on the match. Obviously. Maybe if we were a team of the top of the table right now, we could talk more about reminiscent and the beautiful fair. It's going to be this is right. Where the? Eckermann interview would have dropped David. We're going to have to recap this thing. So what did we take away from? What would it Kyle have to say let me get my dreadlocks on? On don't do this. It's bad enough. What are you gonna do you gonna put drugs onto? Becker what okay. What do you make of Jason coming back? What's the? Nah. It's just like, you know, me and him are broS, and we just hang out, and it's gonna be great. And we're just looking play just play soccer. Yeah. We're gonna kill the cow beckerman. I'll look. Here's what Karl had to say. He wasn't. He's not that focused on this game. I think both he and crise can see in both of them. Look if we were at top of the table right now, we could focus on reminiscent. What else are they going to say clouds? Speak players. But the other thing I think is interesting is he brought beckerman into Lynch pin of his team. They've been together so long, and we could see now it's har- saying this no one else being able to hear the similarities between their personalities and how competitive they are and how focused they are. And that it's not going to be an emotional. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be different they removed too. So you don't have the same kind of emotion a year and a half later than you do the year after he leaves immediately would have taken the helm. I think it's a different story. Who's more desperate to beat the other team Kreis beating rail Salt Lake or beckerman beating Christ oursel- really, you think so. It has to be ourselves. Because I think they have to with the way this season started. They have to prove that they're better than what Christ left for Jeff casare has to prove that what he's building is better than what crisis building in that. They they had the head start and they need to show that they're the better team Christ. So I mean, you got to believe the competitor. He's cry agree Salt Lake to say look at what you're missing out on. I think the desire probably more. It's not that. They let him go. Right. You know, they wanted to keep him. It's not that crisis. Like, oh, you guys didn't respect. I mean, they tried everything. They could I think he wants to be at the end of the everybody does. But when the whistle blows. He wants to be the one that smiles and shakes Jeff SARS hand and says look game knowing that he want anyone in that position and picture yourselves. I would love to be able to show my other team. I made you I made you I come into your house. I beat you. Because I made you here's here's here's what Beckham. Say that that's you Beckham and did say in this whole thing we didn't trust the system with Christ until we won that Emma's Cup in two thousand nine and I think that this team from nine to thirteen is going to be forever. Underappreciated molest. It was practically in all sorts. When you go down the roster. Every one of those guys is an elite player in MLS. And that's why they were so successful. It's a little bit of time for both right now. Now beckerman did say it's a new chapter. He didn't say we started over. But he said it's a new chapter here. They have the base to build on it allows them to probably keep their head above water. But we've talked about it. We know Joao plot havi Morales, Chris Schuler. They're such big keys to what they wanna do. And all of them are missing at the same time. And it's just made a tough to try and start this new style. Four three not exactly working the way, they want it to of course, Jason cries going up against the new style new Team New formation of his own York City of C visiting are so watch that one MLS alive on Saturday night. That's all. This when we come back. We will turn our attention to Sunday what's up on soccer, Sunday less. Want to hear from you? Your encourage to even extra time MLS soccer dot com for tweet at extratime radio with any comments questions oriented. Uh-huh. Fail and England. Extratime radio. Back. Now, an extra time radio with guys seven, pork. David Goss, little guest DJ action. I think it's something that we're gonna make permanent here on each year. You bring it back in Sean Francis. You may know him as the off side rules. Also is the former MLS insider this is from him on Twitter. We'll get to Bruce McGuire suggestion that will be do Nord for those internet nerds, not the common folk, I know. Aiding some people and then you're dropping. Little boozy of you trying to. On his harp. Should be insight soccer job trying to file people into different different different folders here. You know, there's the boozers the good ones and the nuts. Good ones in the common ones. We're gonna have everybody in for this one citizen Email shoes, the tweet tell me why you should be our guest DJ. It's no longer going to be up to the three of us except for maybe on special occasions, but I wanna get when we have to play Greece. Right. You wanted to this? Oh, let's get into soccer talk. That is real tough. We coming up here in the second segment gonna talk about Sunday. I soccer Sunday that is both these games on Fox Sports one. And then we've got a little bit to talk about when it comes to the allocation list and fantasy transfers is something that came off a Twitter that Iran with we're gonna have a little bit of fun with. Let's start with that first game on Sunday, New York. Red bulls hosting the Philadelphia union five PM eastern on Fox Sports one. This is a little bit of a burgeoning rivalry. But I wanna bring it on this note. We'll get the game in just a second. We had kind of discussed maybe the similarities and differences between that twenty thirteen DC team the one that had so much. Trouble was historically bad. And this union team. Trevor bond responded, he said guys, I'm having a hard time seeing many comparible aspects between the two teams aside from the US Open Cup runs. Philly lost. When the wheels were falling off while DC one at all DC was committed to a vision that contained been Olsen. Philly really behind Jim curtain. I think it's a no additionally DC stockpiled picks allocation and knew how to rework retrieve draft at a time when they had to make it work without a viable DP solution. Sons have been do deserve better. He says sometimes tearing down is the best way to build it again stronger. So I kind of think that the Trevor's suggesting a rebuild on the Union's part. But like on grounds is not comparable to Bengals Bengals at that time that they were having a tough season. It was the personality. Ben alsan. It was what he represented his love for the club. What what he had accomplished what he represented as a motivators has a man definitely wasn't with respect. He had of the players, and I think Jim curtain in in the larger Specht has the respect of the players. He has the respect of the fans he's already had somewhat of a body of work that we've seen based on last year where he got the group together. I think right now, and we discussed last show, I think he's had a string of bad injuries. Here's the thing consistent lineups. But I think that comment here and all the things you talked about were intangibles tangible. The question is when you're building a team when you're building a squat is there one thought process, or is there multiple people saying I like the way everyone has a different theory of the way the game works. Everyone wants to put together a team the different way, they value different qualities in players. Is there one guy in Philly who's putting together a roster that fits together is the question? If Ben his point is in Bengal, sit in the bed, you they had in twenty thirteen. What what did you have to hang your hat on? Then you do. Here's what he's saying. He's saying that there was a vision. And that vision, that's the vision. That's coming to fruition. Now, they go out and get all these American players. They say, you know, what we're missing visiting. I know I know him after sure, but you have to get one person who has the vision and at the same time, we talked about it, actually. Wolter can work together. Test obviously him and Olsen are the ones. And now one person can do it. But they had a ton of allocation coming up they had the top draft pick by winning the the open Cup. They had another opportunity to get a lot of allocation money to go to to get even more. So they were a bad team that then all of a sudden had a lot of room. And what did they do? They went out, and they signed guys that I think a lot of people thought were being overpaid for what they were worth. But they were veterans of MLS, and it's been successful. That's what they went out. And did they had the opportunity they had the openings? I don't know what the tools are that Philly has to go about your co beckerman say or we recapped I guess that. Look, it takes a it takes a moment of actually winning for teams to come together. You don't convince guys until you win. So I think Curtin had a little bit of that last year. And that's probably what's put him into this year. That's probably what got him this job. I think he needs a recreate that those guys around him. It's going to be tough. This is tough game for them quickly. Actual thoughts on the game. New York has been a little bit. Stagnated. They haven't been the same kind of force that were at the beginning of the season Philly, of course, getting that last second win in my fantasy video this week. I picked a shutout for the red bulls. I don't think Philly have got the attaching horses readily also going to be missing Vittoria as well as Gaddis Williams. It's going to be suspect line. I do believe. So it should be good for for the rebels to take advantage offensively. I think it should be a big day for them at home. Look the rebels. You said they're not a sparkling as they were in the beginning of the I think the results might not look that way. But they're play has been pretty steady. I would they were good against Dell. So they were they just didn't just couldn't get the goal. So they clearly the favorites in this game. But I think Philadelphia slowly coming together. I wouldn't be shocked if there was a surprise. And all right. The second game on the night, San Jose hosting Orlando. This one's Levi's stadium, which is a little bit interesting via of course, just opening up this year, but they'll be in the big big building seven. Pm Fox Sports one. And the big story from this one clearly centers run, Chris Wondoloski. He is on the hunt for one hundred goals he wants to be the ninth molester to join the century club. And the incredible thing about Wando is that if he does this. He does this in this game says he say he does this in the next like five six seven eight games. He will actually be. I believe the second quickest MLS player to one hundred goals who was the first I'm gonna little trivia question for you here. Dave yet like deer in the headlight headline Landon. Donovan no, I'm sure Simon knows. Right. You know, the first the guy who got one hundred I two quick twelve and Taylor twelve and Carlos reason, not even in this hundred club bug, try really back to the vaccine ninety eight. He will he will very quickly. Yeah. Taylor twelve and scored one hundred in one hundred seventy four games, unfortunately for him his career cut short at one hundred one goals as really tough stuff for him. But one does at two nine right now. And the most incredible thing about Wando is it he's actually scored almost all those goals since two thousand ten and that's been one hundred fifty six games. So that's ninety two at one hundred fifty six those ninety two goals thirty more than any other player in that period. Are we underselling Chris Wanda Laskey somehow, someway, because I think people still put caveats on his career? Oh, you know, nothing to something twenty fourteen World Cup. But this guy has been by far maybe even the most efficient goal score in MLS history. Certainly since two thousand ten what happened at the twenty team World Cup. Sorry. Are you gonna play dumb? Yeah. This guy already on thin ice. I know I'm going out in a blaze going on a blaze of gunfire. I think that the reason Chris wand the ski may be gets short shrift is because of the national media. I don't think the national media puts him on the same level as the big as the as the other big stars in MLS. And I don't think that's because of lack of performance. I think it's because you know, media get behind the land of the world Clint Dempsey's of the world. The media saw the stars. I mean, why are they behind Clint Dempsey because he perhaps as the captain of the national team? You went over head success. Kind of the flag for you. What else can do? I don't know the end. I think also a lot of the guys on the list and a lot of guys talk about that have either have played a lot of finals or like you said plaguing Europe one Laskey has the one supporter shield, but they never made it ten them Taylor. Twin was in multiple Cup finals. These are the guys you. Talk about because they were there in the big moments won the Lao skis mainly been in the regular season, which doesn't discount it anyway. But in terms of having the buzz around on the big national, such when we compare them to Taylor won, the Laos Q Tillotson the national team career, obviously, I guess one Wando has the on twelve men, but I guess you're right on that one in terms of MLS. He's gotta make a final or to none. So far this list in case, you know, from with it Landon. Donovan number one. Of course. Jeff Cunningham Marino onto rows off Jason Kreis who was actually the first one to get to the hundred club. That's big stuff for him. Dwayne do your sorrow who just retired. Of course, twelve and Buttle Chris Wondoloski on the bottom of that list. You have to expect he may even have a chance to challenge anonymous, depending on how long he plays Donovan up there with a hundred and forty four goals one does at ninety nine. So he would have to go for a little bit longer to be productive. But perhaps a chance to do it. Let's move on just a little bit. We're talking about big name players. We're talking about maybe guys who played overseas and. And that got me to the allocation list somehow some way through the Twitter wormhole this afternoon. I was just thinking about things to talk about. And I threw out a question that essentially was if you could invent immolates transfer no women on anything price. acquisition mechanisms here in MLS, whatever it may be you just get to assign one guy to one team who would it be. And the first person that responded was. I apologies. If I if I do not say this because midday heat, and he is a DC fan US men's national team fan. He said, but Doria to DC, and that immediately turned me to the allocation order, and I we haven't really paid enough attention to this. And specifically the allocation list, so Doria DC that's a good one. I think I'd better places I would send one hundred but we are going to send some gifts from DC United swag. Congratulations. Because we come in in the gave us his opinion one hundred because he was the first to pull the trigger. Look, I give things out for whatever. Whatever whatever might pulls my heartstrings, and this did so I'll hundred I'm gonna go through a list of guys with you guys. I'm interested to know where you would send them in this allocation fantasy world let's start with Dora. Where are you gonna go? Is it going to be DC go Portland port for playing this? Okay. I think he'd fit the kill a porter system. And I think the fans there have been clamoring for US national team guy for a while now. So okay what about? What are you sending had sent him to Houston? Let him play in that center midfield role behind Barnes and Kubo are Barnes and Bruin. And I think he'd create a lot of goals for that team. And then you get a lot of goals coming in late into the box. Okay. I said Orlando maybe like a replacement for Malino. He's the guy that talks in brick Shays the north-south guy at maybe Toronto. We all know Toronto need some help on the wings. And I think can pick to all right? I picked one I'm gonna go Orland. What about Tim ream where we send in Tim ream? If he comes back to times player that you're at Bolton TSE defenders, and they need versatility. He could play center back and can play at fullback. And so that I think would be huge for them, and why CFC Stokes the rivalry with the red bulls. The extra dozen they need centrebacks. You would stoke you would stuck that was on my list. But since I can only do one team. This is dreamland putting them on L A think about Tim ream on the left Omar Gonzales on the right LA's cycled through centrebacks. There could be the best centreback Tim in MLS moving on the beard. Tim how're? He's not playing for the us national team right now. But still would be at the top of the upper echelon of keepers, if not the very very best whereas ago, Simon let's mix up the order Philadelphia union gold Versi is now race let him go. I know he's still up from both of us. My number two that I'm not allowed to have wasn't why CFC just because him in in New York. And you mentioned stoking the rivalry. I think I think Tim in Brooklyn with that beard, and the silly flat bear bills he wears fit. I'll send DC United swap with Bill. Meet Sinn sin to Everton wherever peaches and Tim Howard gets to take over. Geoff Cameron going to Simon again revs. Let them go home. God. I gotta go to you first anymore. Yeah. I say revs I say, it's not this year. And we don't need Jermaine Jones. Right. Jermaine jones. What I'm saying is your main Jones who knows what happens with him after this year. His contract expires all of a sudden you have a younger local version. Jeff Cami can play centreback. If you want to he probably prefers the play in midfield thing about Scotty Caldwell in Jeff Cameron for the long term. Are you gonna go ribs? You got something we can do doing dream right wherever wherever you all segments. I said I haven't doesn't like show some people to badgering Hiller. I'm Simon borger. I tend to Vancouver and they'd win. I think within a year. I think if you bring him in at all. You bring Jeff Cameron centreback for Vancouver. And they win CC L. They have all of the attack pieces. Put him ex Austrian land Laba in front of them. I'm kind of liking this convincing me they're gonna shut and you're saying that Vancouver. All they need to win. C? C L is Jeff Cameron. I'm saying Jeff Cameron would help them do it. They would win L. That doesn't mean they can't wait dream. So he can kill it. Seriously dream killer over here feminine Johnson where we send him silent. Dc united. They need to left back. You're gonna play and you're gonna plan back. He's not. Starting play where I ask him to play. He's playing a leftback and fantasy world Simon pork. Where you said I'm going to send him to Orlando and replace Kevin Molino in that midfield as well. Give them another attacking option a little bit of speed. Why are you replacing them? So you have never coming back from his injury. Clearly, that's back. But you know, it's good. Then you have a good rotation there one that I was so excited eventual. Oh, yeah. Was coming to that was that was saving that for Simon that was Simon's desert, his his, just desserts. I pick out a PD doesn't what do you think? What do you think it? Here you go. I again this. It's really agree. And I think there's only one place you can send a player like Julian galaxy, of course, replacing Landon Donovan on the left wing. I think there's no question about it. He wants to put him in the most high-profile sitting. He can I want to send them what coach would really mold them and really get his hands into. I want him under Dominic Kinnear in San Jose. See that might not work out. Tommy Thompson Julian green wing options there citing fan. So why do we think that here's a real question? I would love to see how Julian green comes out. That's what I'm saying from under Dom can you Don fantasy? Let's let's removing you from the fantasy world. Let's say Jillian green does come to MLS starter. Because I went through. I went through all the teams. I went through all the towns there were not many that. I said, yeah, he keyed in that team. I believe he's a started. Gimme a team that you think I mean, I think. You could start for LA think he could start for LA right now he could start or so over Jared Ellen. Right. Okay. So Jared Allen has two good weeks. And you're onboard Simon Jared. No, no. I was going to let you drown. Offensive drought on that one. No, I think there are a lot of teams that he could come in and start for. I think he could potentially battle with Finley and Maram even know in. Talking about has given us so many so much grounds to it's been a tough show for them. I mean, we're just throwing out the Lou just in case Julien greens looking for a fulltime pie to move in with him. Maybe roommates scenario how about this last one I asked for for dream molest fantasies. Here's some of the ones I got from folks on Twitter. This is any player. No matter what Andrew Sullivan says Gareth bale. The Dallas is gonna put cat steel on one side Gareth bale and the other that feels like two left footers though. So that's tough. Yeah. We have an appearance for airborne, Dr boring. I don't know if you ever saw that picture on Twitter, if you haven't go check it out. It's it's terrifying. Footy KP who actually inspired this footy Shaquir? He's secure the Swiss international or Joey Barton to Portland. I'm I think Joey Barton could actually be an interesting one security just be great on the field. But Barton would be crazy. He's an exhausting personality. He is he's I had I had done fall. On twitter. Really it had to happen. Patrick Daggs time to Philly because we need at least one soccer player tough times for Philly fans. Obviously, Chris happe- also with Phillies Super Mario. He's sitting that way Scott Keith he says, sin big salmon Andy Carroll to the Rapids in a few years that one I was interesting. I don't know where that one came from see. West Ham fund, Colorado has this big love with Irish in UK strikers right now, they're rumored after another one that just got Kevin Doyle. So Andy Carroll study network. We had on the show a little while back, and then the best one I got Michael d on Twitter pep Guardiola for Sigi Schmidt, but only for Cascadia matches. We matches up with Caleb porter. That one was by far the best one. I would be interested in seeing that one that would be some juicy drama for sure that's a let's move onto the mail. We got some good stuff coming right up, including Simon's one liner on David from the last show. You're encouraged to Email extra time MLS soccer dot com, or tweet at extratime radio with any comments questions oriented. Sms? Kigoda money. A lot of that. When you don't play Vancouver like has and the extra time, they give me. Back. Now an extra time radio seven hour. Gic that music was brought down waste and quick. I was trying to leave it up. So maybe some of it would force through your multi veins just comb you use. I haven't Simon still bitter over your messing, the lot show issues with the shows that there's something I need to sit you down, and you need to watch a commercial because you shouldn't cross the line because right now you're crossing the line bullying. There's some bullying I will. I will carve lines into you. That's what I'm. Oh. Wow. That is that is going far over the edge on that massive attack from do nor Bruce McGuire. Remember, if you wanna be our guest DJ, we're going to we're going to ship this out to other people hit us up at extra time radio. Minimalist soccer dot com. We mentioned in the first segment this this idea of a rivalry between the crew and the fire, and we gave our sides on it. And then I put it on Twitter and crew fans went absolutely crazy. They were not they're not happy with them in and read. I didn't realize that there was this much animosity between these two. And now, we don't know this is a small sample size. There seems to be a large animosity from one side. Yeah. We don't hear much from the cruel that we just did know from Chicago. Yeah. That's what we did. Just get a tweet from the mid and read ninety seven says. Yeah, we hate the crew. You know, we like your Garrick, but background with them is not good. But the most of it they're all coming after bridgeview that seems to be a big thing they say there is no team in Chicago. There's only a team in bridge. You even started hashtag for this three one two for crew as see they're trying to lay claim to the city. The first tweet we got like a minute after we sent it out was picture of the Michael Jordan statue in front of. I don't know what it's called anymore. The United Center wearing a Columbus Crew scarf. So. And photo shopped it was real pretty Sherry Photoshop job. If it wasn't it wasn't what what's the what's the rivalry? 'cause you you know, these two teams need to meet an important game is what it comes down to you. We've heard about the rivalry heard of the rivalry. We've heard of the travelling fans, but like they need to meet an important game in a game where you know, maybe a playoff spots on the line open Cup. I think they've come across each other before it's just like what they need. We talked about one the Lao skin eating the big game to kind of elevate him. This rivalry to elevate itself. Needs needs a big big state games. What's one from back in the day old man Borg since you've been around since day one that doesn't help you with that? That was really really like heeded back then, but that's just like faded away. Well, sunny, I need to tell you that back in the days is definitely not what your dad sounds Graham. Happy WinCo or something. This is unique unique experience Dallas Chicago was really heated back in the day. We're talking late ninety s Dow Chicago there was bad blood. But because they had playoff matches that they face each other for couple years in a row in the playoffs. And so that was that was pretty mean spirited stuff. That was that's the one that really stands out to me. Yeah. The dust Chicago still called the brimstone Cup people might be scratching their heads. What's what's up with this? Dallas doesn't have any sort of flame in there. It used to be the burn, of course. Since old man Borg is here giving you a history lesson. This might have to be a recurring a recurring thing for us. We bring an old man Borg tell us about what happened years anytime around money. Youngins butterscotch is we should when you rub my knee. Weather's weather's weather's. Yeah. That's what we want those little hard cast. That's that's the stuff right there. We're moving on Marlin Gwenda and craft in Maryland as he says Kyle beckerman hometown and tough day for for people associated with Kyle beckerman, including us. He says guys I've been busing my brain about what term to use for rivalries in MLS. He refuses to use Darby derby Farber Furby, he's not gonna use any of those. He says he's in American history. Major is a ton of useless knowledge about history. So he's reading a book about Andrew Jackson's time at the White House and Suzy saw the word he knew it would be a perfect fit dual doing has a long and rich history in America from Jackson doing while in office of the Cowboys of the old west like soccer Doolan came from Europe. Unlike MLS doing could go either way on any given day now, I know the word itself isn't flashy, but it fits perfectly in terms of two people or teams going at it usually for pride. So he's suggesting like the Hudson river dual or what would it be there's Atlantic? Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think do? So I'm not looking it's not looking happy about this also left out Alexsandr Hamilton when talking about famous duels just saying that's a Oldman Oldman Gossen hearing bringing us with their heels and saying no to duels. I I'm not opposed to it. I'm not like probably leading the charge in the front of it. But I I like it. I like the concept behind it. Okay. I think we're getting away from rivalries or Darby or derby because there are names brimstone Cup. There's the Atlantic right, Chicago, Chicago, Columbus one, I don't know. I don't think we have one. We didn't get you on Twitter needs a Cup. Does. That's another one four get at us. What it is. Oh, really doesn't have any. I'm not gonna tell. Oh, that's that's not very broad is it what it Simon say. Last week. I think Bill Carroll's about to remind us. What does it Bill Carroll? Red bull's section one thirty two. Thank you. Simon. For minding me of say, my father always said to me about life get your helmet on and get into the game. After Davidson for the third time. I don't know you said get your headset off and get someone else in here. I was laughing so hard I had to pull over the entire show. The boys were all over you about being off your game. And you still came up with a great one liner so debut going to take you're gonna take your your headset off and get out of here with that rivalries called. Absolutely the show down to give it to actually don't know. Just so this was this was just a teasing. I'll tell you. I'll tell you on Monday morning, if I still work for you. That's what you would do. This thing doesn't have a name. You say it does. And now you're lying going to go out with a lie. A lot to think about for us today with with the show new directions. We don't know what's going to happen here. Either way think we gotta we gotta take off. We got in this now for the guys Simon Bork thinking, I am Andrew we'd be make sure you tune into the action this weekend. Thank you for Kyle beckerman for speaking to us whether or not it worked out perfectly or not a massive game on Saturday night between oursel- in New York. City of see I'm sure we'll talk about it on Monday until then.

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Chronicle Subscriber Zoom Q&A, Part 1

"The season is on hiatus but as plus is still going. I'm Susan's lesser of the San Francisco Chronicle and even though I'm sheltering in place I am still bringing you news about the days and Major League baseball players like Marcus Simeon. Hey seuss Lazardo. Aj puck are handling the shutdown and how the crow virus crisis will change the as plans when things get back to normal if they do as plus on your favorite podcast APP. Hello and welcome to a combined. Addition of the as plus and giants splash. Podcasts I'm Susan Lesser The chronicles as beat writer Henry Shulman who covers the giants and I took part in a wonderful chronicles zoom subscriber event. And we decided to bring that to you today. John Schultz is sports editor at the chronicle. Thanks for joining us today. For this chronicle subscriber event we're joined by as beat writer Susan Saucier and giants beat writer. Henry Shulman And you're probably all wondering what we're doing with the no baseball around these days and a surprisingly it's been pretty busy There's lots to ground cover and a lot of questions We hope you're all staying safe insane and Hopefully this baseball chat will give everyone a little slice normalcy So just a couple things before we get started. I will be reading questions that are submitted in the chat. So go ahead and shoot off any questions you have for Henry or Susan In the chat there and we will and and You know anything about teams what life as escorts rider is like Or or what have you It's a it's a free for all so With that Elvis. Kinda GET. Things started here with a question Will will lead off with Susan and Henry. Answer to you know. This is such a strange time. When was the last time that I have? You have gone this long without watching live baseball And how are you doing that boy? Wow mean since I was a small child who lived on Guam at because last time with this long without watching live baseball. 'cause we got everything very tape. Delay back in the seventies. I think it was Like a week delayed something like that in my mind but yeah definitely that long since like nineteen seventy-one big. I go back to the strike in ninety. Four ninety five which You know it was like this. They were showing old games on. Tv and I you know boy that replacement ball we were. GonNa have in ninety five. That would have been something else. But it's weird weird feeling. It's you know what's weird feeling that that job you know the amok. It's light outside when I'm done work. I'm working on my house just like everybody else and it's light outside. I'm either on the road somewhere covering a night game or at the Ballpark here. I don't know what to do with myself. Went six thirty or seven o'clock and it's light out about a strike here. 'cause that's the one year. I was covering the NBA full-time so it's to me. It's like it never really the strike. You're never really happen safe to say it's a it's been an adjustment You know it feels like ages since the souls shutdown even began You know if you guys can go back and look at where things were before before. Baseball shutdown You know that this was going to be a you know a big year. Different ways through both the giants in the as You Know Henry. What what was you? Know for all this shutdown What was kind of the big extra for the giants this year? What what kind of stories were you expecting to be writing about? One of the first things. That sort of comes to mind is that this was going to be gave capital's first year as manager and he didn't have a very good cue rating coming into the season and I think everybody was wondering what it was going to look for him him to manage the giants after Bruce. Bocce was in that chair for thirteen seasons and we got a good glimpse of what is style was like sort of interaction with the player interactions with the players in his coaches. And all that but we are. I mean it's a lot different. Coaching managing spring training than it is in the regular season. And I think that Susan would agree. I think that nobody really expect giants do much any any winwood Rabi And it was really really a waiting game until guys like Joey Barton Elliott remotes. And some of those guys would come up and plus waiting to see You know if if guys like Maurici Ubon or Tyler Rogers or somebody who got up looked last year for the first time a do it for real for all season. I and when one funny thing and I'll throw it over to Suzanne. I'm not funny but I mean I flew home to San Francisco on the ninth of March for my break. I get weak break. Just like Susan does and By the time I got I had no idea that a week later I'd be flying back. Just pick up my stuff and drive it home. My Week break has been What about seven eight weeks that this was seven weeks. Earning my thanks to my broken ankle and yeah they were. I think all of you know the coming authors second consecutive ninety spin. We Season Two playoff appearances and they felt like they were in good shape of this year. really aiming for the division title. And that's what everything was about to rookie pitchers was ARDO and Pumpkin How they would help? What was looking. Like one of the American League's best rotations. Before this all came to a screeching halt and Matt Chapman and Matt Olson just continuing to get better and better Mar Simeon establishing himself. Maybe he candidate as felt great about where things were headed so You know it's for them. I think they still feel like if they're a season played of any sort of like their chances but the window is like most teams isn't necessarily extremely big and they have nine financial constraints that might make it even shorter so this is a season. That's important for them for sure. While in a Susan you played perfectly into the first question we got here and it's a it's a big one. So what this question is Melinda Brunettes? What's the latest word on baseball? Might be played and if it is played. Where's it going to be played? Well thanks to the question Linda I've been writing about this fairly extensively all different aspects of it. I think right now the thing looks like what is most likely that baseball in the union and are kind of zeroed in on if there is baseball is claiming in Arizona with all teams. I'm not quite sure exactly what that would look like. Initially some of the things kicked around included soul corentin away from families or players up to four and a half months with that does not sound remotely to me But I think theoretically you could probably play as many as three games Ah Day in that indoors in the stadium and then you some of the Spring Stadium Stadium sites for other Games. It's going to be awful hot if they're planning on playing there in the middle of the summer That tiny gains could be interesting so doable with a lot of obstacles and of course the main thing is safety and I'm not sure Iran's I'm not sure. Experts are convinced him not sure. The majority of players convinced that under the circumstances right now that things will be safe. I have a story coming up sometime in this next week about baseball in specific sanitation issues. There's so much spitting and became skies licking their fingers constantly. Is that issue? Does that happen? Change along with many other things that every sport is going to have to deal with Including right now. Physical distancing is just. It's not possible in sports including baseball. Maybe tennis or Ping Pong or something like that. You can safely physical distance Even baseball you. You can't do it. They were talking about having instead. Dugouts having players sitting in a stance. A Guy's GonNa stand on per space. I face not going to be six feet away from us. He slides into second. The second basement isn't going to be six feet away from him. It's just not a catcher. Still GonNa be right next to each other. The catchers really Brian L. Players and visit extended. I I think that would cover. Everybody needs to Czech Republic catcher shirts before they go on to do anything but right now it's very early stages I like the fact that their hands. That's great that's what they should be doing. They can think through all sorts of different things. But I don't see me thing right now that's workable I just think I really don't think we're going to have a baseball season this year. I agree that it's it would be a thirty team. Arizona thing I think Florida came. They came up with idea of fifteen and Florida's fifteen in Arizona. But I think that was more what the players who train in Florida wanted because they could be at their own facility. That's not workable the spring training sites where they could play. The Games are too far apart. That's the rainy season. There's a reason the marlins and the raise play in a dome stadium but they wanted to have a spring training in March and then a season starting June. I I mean that's not going to happen. I'm they're lucky. If they by September we can have something august-september and by that time I think John as ideas probably more likely. There'll be some sort of like thirty team tournament Sort OF SURVIVOR ARIZONA. To get down for the good down to the world series champ with okay so as for this to be wounded their best potential squads in have that be the way that they miss out on the postseason. Song. Just ask the one thousand nine hundred eighty one. Cincinnati reds out worked out for them Some older folks might know the reference but in one thousand nine hundred one. They had to have split season because of a two-month strike and so they decided to fairus way to do it was just declared the first half champion of where it stood at that strike and do a whole second half from scratch Zero zero just like they used to do in the minors you know the first half champion versus the second half champion and the reds ended up having the best overall record in a bait in the National League but they didn't win or come in second in either half so they missed the policies and follow up question here from Tom Miller. That's a pretty pretty intriguing writes that With the possibility of MLB Games being played without fans. Are there any ideas about bringing in fans virtually Some way for players to get fan reactions even though they're remotes Is there anything that we we've seen or heard about any rumblings about what that that experience might be like if possible in any of these scenarios that have been proposed? I've not heard anything unless you. You don't always pipe in crowd noise they do it in. Nfl practices to kind of replicate. The what the what is going to be like in Superdome or whatever. But I haven't heard anything. I saw some Chinese teams are using robots in this council. Jim Not surely approximates cutouts would be good. Yeah actually experience But I assume that there would be some sort of ability has banned moments baby film fans and fans on the big tour boards in between innings Have remotes sort of Hookups for fans to kind of watching a zoom setting. And maybe even somehow show that on the big screen during the game on the islet imagine that there are a lot of minds working on ways to at least try windfall people even after the best thing I heard was actually making the players so you could actually hear a player throughout the whole game. I think they would have to have every fan sign of parental consent form just to watch a game on TV yet. Henry Shellman John Schultz and I will be back in just a moment with more of the chronicles Zoom Subscriber. Event Stay tuned. Hey Audrey Cooper here editor in chief of the San Francisco Chronicle and we've ramped up the news coming at you from fifth mission except not the physical that the mission since. We're all working at home. The fifth mission. That is our flagship news. Podcast were interviewing anyone with anything to say about the corona virus so that you have the latest information as soon as we know it so check it out. Fit The mission. Wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the San Francisco. Chronicle Zoom Subscriber Event with me Susan Susser Henry Shulman and Moderator John. Schultz the chronicles sports editor. Sticking with the AIDS here Susan Rich asks does this. You think this helps or hurts the as stadium ever well. It's on like everything essentially Which is an. It's not going to be helpful for their time line. Depending on her lawn everything goes on a right now that they're waiting for the environmental impact report Which is John But it's being tied up a little bit of litigation of Addis Pretty much come to a halt and there needs to be public hearings on the Er before things progressive and of course there are no public hearings right now. So unless they figure out a way to do those In some sort of Zoom Paul or some other sort of room remote way. I don't see where they're going to be able to move forward very quickly this summer. I think that that two thousand and three time line is probably very much effected the as a been quiet about it because they like everybody else. They don't know exactly what's happening or what. The time line is war with public officials near may not be able to do with some of those things They're waiting on litigation. They're hopeful that at some point. Maybe that there could be something that gets moved along. Maybe they can cut some corners time-wise elsewhere but I I don't see it. I think probably adds another year at least in process and Another question here We have Related to the shut off and the A and the as Susan what do you think? What do you think not playing or playing a partial season? Does remarks Simians chances of an extension. You it really. There's so many factors that play into that The most significant obviously when it comes to as in signing marcus any until the long term extension is the fact that they are also looking mats and trying to get long term extensions with them and and the overall cost of the three of them that makes semyon a little less likely however if somehow the finances of the game are impacted. It's such that Semyon is convinced that the best deal. He might get instrument as right now and want to get some sort of security for As come up with at least a decent package before all of this he was certainly looking after finishing third in the in the MVP rix something. In the Order of seventy eighty ninety million dollars maybe approaching one hundred million his agent probably would have you believe but certainly significant worthy asep ever paid anybody the most ever paid with Eric Chavez sixty six million in two thousand and two so he would have been breaking a lot of as financial records. I don't know exactly helping look financially for the game or for the players or what individual later thinking but I know in the as talked to San about an extension. Two years ago there were fairly close to doing so it. Thanks to Come together at the very end. Obviously I think some of the cops that his agent was looking at people like to Anderson. The Ace learned quite close enough so there was a little bit of a break down. It was clear. Are Marcus broke his wrist and a lot said around the game. You know what he should assigned deal because of the security. This is why you do those things so like this with a pandemic might change people's thinking when it when it comes to long term deals right and You know sticking with the roster talk here Henry. This is a question from Sam Pasco. He asks our the giant. GonNa recover from letting Kevin Palomar Walk Great. But he's no superman. Well first of all I want a compliment. Rebecca how well? Her baby is bathed and high rich waltz. We have render. I hope you're doing well So question Really makes an assumption that I think a lot of fans make. Which is that the giants Really Care About Winning in twenty twenty. They don't I mean they. They say they do. They're going to go out and try and win every game imaginable. Because you don't go out to lose but yeah of course chemical is going to have a better year than might are Mike Pence. God forgive me. A hundred hundred pants But you know that's not the point The the giants would have had to spend nine million dollars at least to get Alarm for another year And they they're only spending both at three million dollars to get pants and yes they have a lot of money but they still have a payroll and they wanNA use six million dollar difference To do things like the trade they made to get. We'll Wilson from the angels who was a first round draft pick and in return. The giants agreed to take on Zach ozarks twelve or thirteen million dollar contract and just release them and you know if you you sign a guy for nine million dollars he's GonNa you're signing a guy for to play one hundred fifty games one hundred forty games get five hundred six hundred at bats like he did last year. You're signing hundred pounds to do that. You're signing hundred pants to maybe get two hundred at bats or two hundred fifty at bats and then you start looking at the outfielders that might be part of your future and they get those at bats instead it so I think the fans Not maybe irrelevant now with the The shutdown but I think fans need to have a different mindset. Don't think of the giants as trying to compete for a playoff spot. Don't think the front office is going to build a team as if they're going to try and win a playoff spot. That is absolutely not. What twenty twenty would have been about and with With what twenty twenty would have been about as you're saying earlier you know what would mark Gig Gave cavilers first season as manager. We've question here from Clifford. Waldeck WHO ASKS Henry? How's your relationship with Gabe? Kaplan he caught a lot of flack when he was first elected Thanks for the question. I have a good relationship. I think all the media have a good relationship. He tries to Foster that I mean he's a he's a good politician any wants to have the beat writers like him be on his side. We're not always going to be on his side. We're going to question him about some of his mood on. I think he's happy. He's not dealing Philadelphia media anymore. Because they you know sort of like New York media It's much more competitive market. And people want to be a little more edgy We're trying to tell a story of. Sometimes the reporters in part of the country are trying to stir things up a little bit more than we do and probably deserved And we we enjoyed so far talking to Gave and at the end of each day in spring training we would Have our one daily media briefing with him to ask him any questions about any players in the workout and We we spent a Lotta time after those things just talking about restaurants an when our thoughts are on various things in the world and You know so far Soga Susan. I'm getting a lot of Questions about your ankle good. I need to get some water. Can you tell us about how your higher recovery is going Yes so for those. Who Don't I broke my ankle on February twenty nights playing risky I don't recommend it earlier. Ankles are really important so it's been a long slow road. I needed surgery on March fifth and played in nine screws put in. I start limiting limited grain last Thursday and I can now walk with the locking boot without crutches. Some swells up a lot And my goal is to get onto Fair awfully did this for years before I did it so I can bounce everything off her and I know after three years. She's still not one hundred percent right. She's not running it. I plan to be running within six months. So it's given me. She's lots of information angles or about skiing. Yes I uh skiing claim to be back eating. Yes I also Skiing in January so John John here has forbidden meat from writing dirt bikes either. Yeah those accidents us. A real fear of the bunch is anybody. I asked about John's feared that is his actual beard. It's not like a quarantine period is not not clean-shaven before this all began If anyone has any questions on beard care to the chat I could I could potentially answer some remark. Deputy reminds me of the fake one that Brian tried to buy in life of Brian at a market when he was running away from the Roman soldiers. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? That's that's that's what that beer reminds me. Eleven days worth of food in their get gotTA stored up somewhere. It's a drastic times calls her call for drastic measures Seen a few questions in here. this one for Henry both Henry and Susan Howard players staying in baseball shape What are they doing during the layoff and I mean are they. Are they in communication with the team? Are they getting strict guidelines or they kind of free wheeling it How's that what are you hearing about how that's playing out quench? David costs and I saw it from someone else. Okay that's a great question of if you're listening to me on. Kmby are about an hour ago. I answered it Because it is on a lot of people's minds and So yeah the players are in I wouldn't say constant communication I would say regular communication with Kappler that not not just Kappler in the coaching staff. But also the strength and conditioning staff and the nutritionist that the giants have all those folks are trying to gather information on when they might think baseball will come back and try and keep these athletes condition so that when there is a spring training again and if there is one that only three weeks You want these guys to come in even in better shape than they do when they come in for a six week spring training. I mean the days are long gone when you guys would come into spring training looking like Belarus the squared and then used at six weeks to you know to get fed. They're usually fit when they come in. They have to be in shape to play games in a short while so that that does involve whatever workouts they can do individualize workouts given their Quarantining scenarios Whether the pitchers have somebody to throw to Things like that and You know then the nutritionists are talking about. What kind of food to get an actually. The giants. Nutritionists are actually sending food packaged food or having packaged food sent two players. Don't WanNA think about it. And then they just eat everything that that is sent to them because it has the right nutritional balance so yeah I. I'm sure it's the same with the as it's a lot of communication. Yeah you know. The as have been very specific about not giving recommendations of any kind to their clair's. They want them to feel that. They can stick to strict physical distancing which some workout facilities and even just like catch your radically That might violate some some of the physical distancing recommendations. I have to say almost every pitcher is working out editor facility. They have to keep their arm strength up or they have catcher talk to. Hey SEUSS Lazardo last week. And he's working with Mike Fires in an empty field in the middle of nowhere in Florida They're they're working out together with a trainer who brings some stuff and I think they feel like because they've been in quarantine they know each other pretty safe but I have talked to sommes players. Who are working at it facilities and I'm sure quite a few of them are I read that might Mike Trout in Albert working out together so I think there's some interesting combination of of guys are figuring out ways to to stay in shape as don't WanNa tell pitcher even that they have for prince because they don't WanNa be in a position where somebody winds up coming up with a positive test and says well you're the one that told me that. I had to go through open session and I put myself my family at risk. So they've steer clear that there's a lot of communication certainly a lot of advice for they are not someone them what to do whatsoever. Thanks for listening to part one of the San Francisco. Chronicle's zoom subscriber event and joint as plus giant splash podcasts. I'm Susan's lesser for giants writer. Henry Shulman and sports editor John Schultz. We will be back again next week. Our producers today were King Kaufman and g Allen Johnson and thanks so much to Christina Nori for organizing are very special event. Thanks for listening. He's plus is a production of the San Francisco Chronicle support as plus and all of the chronicles journalism by signing up for Chronicle membership at SF chronicle dot com slash pot.

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Chronicle Subscriber Zoom Q&A, Part 1

Giants Splash

27:11 min | 1 year ago

Chronicle Subscriber Zoom Q&A, Part 1

"The twenty twenty baseball season like all sports is on hiatus that we at the chronicle know that you still want to hear from giants players coaches managers and other baseball newsmakers on the giant splash. Podcast on beat writer. Henry showman colleague John Shea and I plan to keep you informed in print online and here on the splash especially on the important matter of when baseball will resume the giants splash available on your favorite podcast APP. Hello and welcome to combined. Addition of the as plus and giants splash podcasts. I'm Susan's lesser the chronicles as beat writer. Henry Shulman who covers the giants and I took part in a wonderful chronicles zoom subscriber event and. We decided to bring that to you today. I'm John Schultz is sports editor at the chronicle. Thanks for joining us today. For this chronicle subscriber event were joined by as beat writer. Susan slaughter and giants beat writer. Henry Schulman And you're probably wondering what we're doing with the no baseball around these days and surprisingly it's been pretty busy There's lots to a lot of ground to cover a lot of questions We hope you're all staying safe insane and Hopefully this baseball chat will give everyone a little slice normalcy So just a couple things before we get started I will Be Reading questions that are submitted in the chat. So go ahead and shoot off any questions you have for Henry or Susan In the chat there and we will and and You know anything about teams. What life as a scorched rider is like Or or what have you It's a it's a free for all so With that Elvis. Kind of get things started here with a question Will will lead it off with Susan and Henry p one answer to You know this is such a strange time. When was the last time that I have? You have gone this long without watching live baseball And how are you feeling that boy? Wow I mean since I was a small child lived on Guam. I think is the last time I went this about watching live baseball. 'cause we got everything very tape delay back in the seventies. It was late a week. Delayed something like that in my mind but yeah yeah definitely that long since like nineteen seventy-one think I go back to the strike And Ninety four ninety five which You know it was like this. They were showing old games on. Tv and I you know boy that replacement ball. We're GONNA have in ninety five. That would have been something else. But it's weird too weird feeling. It's you know it's a weird feeling that that job you know. I'm luckily light outside when I'm working on my house just like everybody else and it's light outside. I'm either on the road somewhere covering a game. More at the ballpark here. I don't want to do with myself when six or seven o'clock and it's light out strike here. 'cause that's the one year. I was covering the NBA full-time so it's to me. It's like it never really the strike. You're never really happened. You did trust me safe to say it's It's been an adjustment You know it feels like ages. Census soul shutdown even began You know if you guys can go back and look at where things were before before. Baseball shutdown You know that this was going to be a you know a big year. Different ways for both the giants in the as You Know Henry. What what was you know before? All this shutdown. What was kind of the big extra for the giants this year? What what kind of stories were you expecting to writing about? One of the first things. That sort of comes to mind is that this was going to be gave capital's first year as manager and You know he didn't have a very good cue rating coming into this season and I think everybody was wondering what it was gonNA look like for him to manage of the giants after Bruce. Bochy was in that chair for thirteen seasons and we got a good glimpse of what his style was like. Sort of interaction with the player interactions with the players in his coaches. And all that. I mean it's a lot different. Coaching managing spring training than it is in the regular season. And I mean I think that Susan would agree. I think nobody really expected. Giants do much any any win would be gravy and it was really truly destroy like a waiting game until guys like. Joey Barton Elliott. Rama's since some of those guys would come up and plus waiting to see If guys like Maurice Yo Ubon or tyler Rogers or somebody who got look last year for the first time I could do it for real for all season. I and when one funny thing Throat Order Susan not funny thing but I flew home to San Francisco on the ninth of March for my break. I I get a week break just like Susan does. And by the time I got him. I had no idea that a week later I'd be flying back. Just pick up my stuff and drive at home my week break than what about. Seven eight weeks was seven weeks. Earning yeah thanks to my broken ankle and eight were I think all of you know the coming off of their second consecutive We Season Two playoff appearances and they felt like they were in good shape for this year. really aiming for the division title. And that's what everything was about a two rookie pitchers was ARDO and Pumpkin How they would help? What was looking like one of the America's best rotations before this all came to a screeching halt and Matt Chapman and my Olsen just continuing to get better and better Simeon establishing himself with maybe candidate use felt great about where things were headed. So you know it's for them. I think they still feel like there is a season played of any sort of like their chances. But you know this there. Window is like most teams isn't necessarily extremely agony half nine financial constraints that might make it even shorter so this is a season. That's important for them for sure. While I'm a Susan you you played perfectly into the first question we got here and it's a it's a big one So what this question from Linda Brunettes. What's the latest word on baseball? Might be played and if it is played. Where's it going to be played? Linda I've been writing about this fairly extensively all different aspects of it. I think You know right now the thing that looks like what is most likely that baseball in the Union and Our Highness Geraldine if there is baseball is claiming in Arizona all teams. I'm not quite sure exactly what that would look like. Initially some of the things around included Quarantine away from families players up to four and a half months which that doesn't sound remotely world to me But I think theoretically you could probably play as many as three gains Ah Day in that indoors and the stadium and then you some of the Spring State stadium sites for other Games. It's going to be awful hot if they're planning on playing there in the middle of the summer That tiny you've gains could be interesting so doable with a lot of obstacles and of course the main thing is safety and I'm not sure I'm I'm not sure. Experts are convinced him not sure majority of players are convinced that under the circumstances right now that things will be safe. I have a story coming up sometime in this this next week about baseball in Pacific sanitation issues. Because there's so much spitting began skies licking their fingers constantly. A is that an issue. Does that happen? Change along with many other things that every sport is going to have to deal with Unclear right now. Physical distancing is just. It's not possible in sports including baseball. Maybe tennis or Ping Pong or something like that. You can safely physical distance Even in baseball you can't do it. They were talking about having instead of dugouts players sitting in the stands guy's GonNa stand on per space first baseman snuck only six feet away from A. B. Slides into second. The second Baseman isn't going to be six feet away from him. It's just not a catcher. Still GonNa be right next to each other and the catchers really the brunt and accent I can cover. Everybody used to Czech Republic catcher shirts before they go onto but right now it's very early stages. I like the fact that their hands. That's great that's what they should be doing. They can think through all sorts of different things. But I don't see anything right now that's workable I think I really don't think we're GONNA have a baseball season this year. I agree that it's it would be thirty team. Arizona thing I think Florida came. They came up with that idea of fifteen Florida fifteen in Arizona. But I think that was more what the players Who trained in Florida wanted because they could be at their own facilities. That's not workable the spring training sites where they play. The Games are too far apart. That's the rainy season. There's a reason the marlins and the rays will play in a Dome Stadium but you know they wanted to have a spring training in March and then a season starting June. I I mean that's not gonNA happen. I'm they're lucky. If they by September we can have something august-september and by that time I think John Shades idea is probably more likely. There'll be some sort of like thirty team tournament Sort of survivor Arizona to get down for the good down to the world series champ with okay so as for this to be wooded best potential squads have that be the way that they miss out on the postseason August Just ask the nineteen eighty one. Cincinnati reds out. Worked out for them. Some of the older folks might know the reference but in one thousand nine hundred one. They had to have a split season because of a two-month strike and so they decided fares way to do it was just declared the first half champion of where it stood at at the strike and do a whole second half from scratch Zero zero just like they used to do in the minors you know the first half champion versus the second half champion And the reds ended up having the best overall record in In the National League. But they didn't win or come in second in either half so they missed the most and a follow up question here from Tom Miller. That's pretty pretty intriguing. He writes that With the possibility of MLB Games being played without fans are there. Any ideas about bringing in vans virtually Some way for players to get fan reactions even though they're remotes Is there anything that we've seen or heard about any rumblings about what that that experience might be like if possible in any of these scenarios that have been proposed? I heard anything unless you have. You always piping crowd noise they do it in. Nfl practices to kind of replicate. The what what is going to be like in the superdome or whatever. I haven't heard anything I I. Some Chinese teams are using robots. Cancel Jim not really approximates cutouts would be good. Yeah actual experience but I assume that there would be some sort of ability has banned moments baby film fans and fans on the big the scoreboards in between innings. Um have remotes sort of Hookups for fans to kind of watch zoom setting and maybe even somehow show that on the big screen during the game and I would imagine that there are a lot of minds working on ways to at least try windfall people even in the best thing I heard was actually making up the players so you could actually hear a player throughout the whole game. I think they would have to have every fan sign of parental consent form just to watch a game on TV. Yeah that's that would be tough. Henry Shellman John Schultz. And we'll be back in just a moment with more of the chronicles zoom subscriber event. Stay tuned Hey Audrey Cooper here editor in chief of the San Francisco Chronicle and we've ramped up the news coming at you from fifth emission except not the physical that the mission since. We're all working at home. The fifth and mission. That is our flagship news. Podcast were interviewing anyone with anything to say about the corona virus so that you have the latest information as soon as we know it so check it out. Fit The mission. Wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the San Francisco. Chronicle zoom subscriber event with me Susan's Lesser Henry Shulman and moderator John. Schultz the chronicles. Sports editor. Sticking with the as here Susan rich asks does this. Do you think this helps or hurts the stadium effort. Well it's on like everything essentially Which is an. It's not going to be helpful for that time. Line depending on her lawn. Everything sign right now. They're waiting for the environmental impact report. Which is done But it's being tied up with a little bit of litigation of Addis Pretty much come to a halt and there needs to be public hearings on the Er before things progress and of course there are no public hearings right now. So unless they figure out a way to do those In some sort of Zoom Paul or some other sort of remote way. I don't see where they're going to be able to move forward very quickly this summer. I think that two thousand and three time line is probably very much affected the as a been quiet about it because they like everybody else. They don't know exactly what's happening. Or what the time line is for what public officials may or may not be able to do with some of those things They're waiting on litigation. They're hopeful that at some point. Maybe that there could be something that gets moved along. Maybe they can cut some corners time-wise elsewhere but I I don't see it. I think it's probably adds another year at least in process and Another question here We have Related to the shut off the A. Mba's Susan. What do you think? What do you think not playing or playing? A partial season does or market Semyon. Chances of an extension. You it really. There's so many factors that play into that The most significant obviously when it comes to as in signing marcus any until they are long term extension is the fact that they're also looking at Matt's and trying to get one term extensions with them and and the overall cost of the three of them that makes semyon a little less likely however if somehow the finances of the game are impacted. Such that S- Semyon is convinced that the best deal he might get instruments as right now and want to get some sort of security for And the as come up with at least a decent package before all of this. He was certainly looking after finishing third in the in the MVP risks something. In the in the order of seventy eighty ninety million dollars maybe approaching one hundred million His agent probably would have you believe but certainly significant whether the ace of ever paid anybody. The most ever paid was Eric Chavez. Sixty six million in two thousand and two so he would have been breaking a lot as financial records. I don't know exactly helping slip financially for the game or for the players or what individual later thinking but I you know when the as talked to about alarm extension. Two years ago they were fairly close to doing so. It thinks that Come together at the very end. Obviously I think some of the cops that his agent was looking at people like to Manderson. The Ace learned quite close enough so there was a little bit of a break down. It was lamarcus broke his wrist and lot said around the game. You know what he should have signed that deal because of the Security. This is why you do those things so like this with a pandemic might change some people's thinking limit when it comes to long term deals right and You know sticking with the roster talk here Henry this is a question from San Pasco. He asks our the giants. GonNa recover from letting Kevin Palomar walk. Pence is great. But he's no superman but first of all I want to compliment. Rebecca however baby is bathed and high rich waltz. We have a ringer. I hope you're doing well So question Really makes an assumption that I think. A lot of fans make Which is that the giants Really Care About Winning Twenty twenty? They don't I mean they. They say they do. They're going to go out and try and win every game imaginable. Because you don't go out to lose but yeah of course chemical is going to have a better year than might are Mike Pence. God forgive me. A hundred hundred pants But you know that's not the point The the giants would have had to spend nine million dollars at least to get Polar for another year And they they're only spending both three million dollars to get pants and yes they have a lot of money but they still have a payroll and they wanNA use six million dollar difference To do things like the trade. They made A to get A. We'll Wilson from the angels who was a first round draft pick and in return. The giants agreed to take on Zach ozarks twelve or thirteen million dollar contract and just release them and you sign a guy for nine million dollars. he's GonNa you're signing a guy for to play one hundred fifty games. One Hundred Forty Games get five hundred. Six hundred at bats like he did last year. You're not signing hundred pounds to do that. You're signing hundred pants to maybe get two hundred at bats or two hundred fifty at bats and then you start looking at the outfielders that might be part of your future and they get those at bats instead. So I think the fans not maybe irrelevant now with the The shutdown but I think fans need to have a different mindset. Don't think of the giants as trying to compete for a playoff spot. Don't think the front office is going to build a team as if they're going to try and win a playoff spot. That is absolutely not. What twenty twenty would have been about and with With what twenty twenty would have been about as you're saying earlier you know what would mark Gig Gave cavilers for season as manager. We've question here from Clifford. Waldeck WHO ASKS Henry? How's your relationship with Gabe? Kappler caught a lot of flack when he was first elected Thanks for the question. I have a good relationship. I think all the media have a good relationship. He tries to Foster that I mean he's you know he's a good politician. Any wants to have the beat writers like him be on his side. We're not always going to be on his side. We're going to question him about some of his moves on. I think he's happy. He's not dealing Philadelphia media anymore. because They you know sort of like the New York media It's much more competitive market. And people want to be a little more edgy We're trying to tell the story of Sometimes the reporters in part of the country are trying to stir things up a little bit more than we do and probably deserve And we we enjoyed so far talking to Gave and At the end of each day in spring training we would Have our one daily media briefing with him to ask them any questions about any players in the workout and you? We spent a lot of time after those things just talking about Restaurants and what our thoughts are on various things in the world and You know so far so good Susan. I'm getting a lot of Questions in here about your ankle. Good I need to get some water. Can you tell us about how your higher recovery is? Going yes I for those. Who Don't I broke my ankle on February. Twenty ninth playing hockey. I don't recommend it. Apparently your ankles are really important so it's been a long slow road. I needed Surgery on March fifth and had a plate at nine screws put in I started limiting limited grain last Thursday and I can now walk with the locking boot without crutches some it swells up a lot And my goal is to get out Fair off lead this years before I did it so I can bounce everything off her and I know after three years. She's still not a hundred percent rate. She's not running at. I plan to be running within six months. So it's given me. She's me lots of information angles or skiing. Yes Uh skiing I plan to be back being yes. I also Skiing in January so John John here has forbidden from riding dirt. Bikes any other accidents. He's a real here at the bus is anybody. I asked about. John's feared that is his actual beard. It's not like a quarantine period is I was not I was not clean-shaven before this all began If anyone has any questions on beard care to the chat I could I could essentially answer some remark. Deputy reminds me of the fake one that Brian tried to buy in life of Brian at the market when he was running away from the Roman soldiers. Does anybody know what I'm talking about acid That beer reminds me eleven days worth of food in their get gotTA stored up somewhere. It's a drastic times drastic measures Seen a few questions in here This one for Henry both Henry and Susan Howard players staying in baseball shape. What are they doing during the layoff and Are they are they in communication with the team? Are they getting strict guidelines or that kind of free wheeling it That what are you hearing about how that's playing out reading. David costs and I saw it from someone else. Okay that's a great question of if you're listening on. Kmby are about an hour ago. I answered it because it is on a lot of people's minds and So yeah the players are in I wouldn't say constant communication I would say regular communication with Kappler not not just Kappler in the coaching staff. But also the strength and conditioning staff and the nutritionist that the giants have all those folks are trying to gather information on when they might think baseball will come back and try and keep these athletes condition so that when there is a spring training again. And it's you know if there is one that only three weeks You want these guys to come in even in better shape than they do when they come in for a six week spring training. I mean the days are long gone when you guys would come into spring training looking like Babe Ruth squared and then used at six weeks know to get fit. There usually fit when they come in but they have to be in shape play games in a short while so that that does involve whatever workouts they can do individualized workouts given their Quarantining scenarios Whether the pitchers have somebody to throw to Things like that and then the nutritionist. Talking about what kind of food to get an actually. The giants Tristesse are actually sending food packaged food or having packaged food sent players. Who Don't want to think about it. And then they just eat everything that is sent to them because it has the right nutritional balance so yeah I. I'm sure it's the same with the as it's a lot of communication. Yeah you know the as have been very specific about not giving recommendations of any kind to their clair's. They want them to feel that. They can stick to strict physical distancing which some workout facilities even just like. Catch your radically That might violate some some of the physical distancing recommendations. I have to say almost every picture is working out editor facility. They have to keep their own strength up or they have catcher Lazardo last week and working with Mike Fires in an empty field in the middle of nowhere in Florida They're working out together with a trainer who brings some stuff and I think they feel like because they've been in quarantine each other pretty safe But I have talked to sommes players. Who are working out of celebrities. And I'm sure quite a few of them are I read that Mike. Mike Trout in Albert. Mobile's working out together so I think there's some interesting combination of of guys are figuring out ways to to stay in shape as don't WanNa tell pitcher to even that they have for prince because they don't WanNa be in a position wire Somebody winds up coming up with a positive test and says well. You're the one that told me that. I had to go through open session on myself. My family at risk so they've steer clear that there's a lot of communication certainly in a lot of advice. They are not mind what to do whatsoever. Expert listening to part one of the San Francisco. Chronicle's zoom subscriber event and joint AIDS. Plus giant splash. Podcasts I'm Susan's. Lesser for giants writer. Henry Shulman and sports editor Schultz. We will be back again next week. Our producers today where King Kaufman and g Allen Johnson and thanks so much Christine Roy for organizing are very special event. Thanks for listening. Giant splash is a production of the San Francisco. Chronicle support the splash and all of the chronicles great journalism by signing up for Chronicle membership at SF chronicle dot com slash pod.

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Farm Director Kyle Haines on Prospects' Challenges

Giants Splash

29:46 min | 1 year ago

Farm Director Kyle Haines on Prospects' Challenges

"Does the anticipation of another desk lunch of baby, carrots and ranch dressing. Keep you up at night. Here's a cure, extra spicy and New San Francisco. Chronicle podcast by me Soleil how? Justin Phillips. You can subscribe to extra spicy now on apple, spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi Everyone I'm John Shea of the San, Francisco Chronicle and welcome to the giants splash podcast. Our guest is Kyle Haines the giants director of player development who knows all about the top prospects in the sixty man player pool, the seven players drafted and the six who were signed as undrafted free agents. Kyle speaks of the challenges facing these young players without a minor league season, and what the giants are doing to keep them in baseball for. Thanks for joining US Kyle and we're we're. We're talking about today. The giants suspended workouts at Oracle Park. As we wait for tests from the weekend, but. Baseball is a major challenge these days and I'm wondering how you're doing. No first of all thanks for having me John. I'm doing good. I think we're all navigating just such an unknown. Environment and and world and his. You know it's like any other trying time. You just kind to navigate it the best. You can then come out at the end You know a little more comfortable so. Just very uncomfortable times and baseball's not immune to that, so we're all doing well and and. I know We're just getting through it the best we can. You and I guess the best part of Your Day is actually the hours at the Ballpark when there's baseball, but if I could but jump jump right into what people love to talk about, and that's Mark Luciano and I know you love this kid Actually. My final player interview in spring training eighteen year old, but seemed so much more mature got all the tools shortstop six to? He said he two hundred pounds now, and he was added to the sixty man player pool. I thought I'd give you a chance to offer some glowing comments about Marco Luciano. Yeah Nah. He's very naturally gifted kid and we're obviously very excited has been you mentioned his maturity? you know it's It's easy to get excited about Marco for sure and I think the the most exciting time for us. You know being able to get him in a low. Pressure situation, and just you know adapt to San Francisco and the ballpark can being around our major league veterans, and our major majorly coaches and you know having our minor league soccer minor league staff here in San Francisco in him, and this this is just great one that he's playing baseball working out, but number two is that he's able to to experience San Francisco experienced ballpark and You know hopefully become comfortable in this environment so that way someday if if he's ever called up here to the big leagues and in the near future there, there's a few less You know shocking. Thanks to him such as. Being the time in the city and I I'm the ballpark and things of that nature and seeing that third level now so. Maybe he's a little more. adapted to the environment. Well. You get to see what we don't get to see because the media allowed into the ballpark during these times during a certain. Segment of the day, so the earlier group, which includes all these great prospects come and go before we arrived, but I've heard some great things about Luciano at the plate and some of these other kids. How's he looking at the Big League ballpark? Yeah. He's looked great He looks strong healthy Some some of these guys. You just don't know what they were able to do. When they're home. He was able to still stay kind of working out back in the Dominican safely and you know some guys had very little or nothing, and some guys had a lot and. and. He did a nice job. Stand ready so He looks really good. honestly I think it's been. It's been great to see him out on field moving around. Excited to not only here, but also maybe get him to the the taxi squad site. Even work with more and. Being around these veteran players and picking their brain is going to be something that helps them a lot, but easily great so far and you know I'm hoping that at some point, the media's going to be able to get in and out you know. Watch him out on the on the field. Move around and and kind of get more first hand experience on the the. League's have been able to see for. A year plus now yeah, that's happening soon I hear, but there's also joey. Barton. Elliott Ramos and Patrick Beverley the first pick in last month's draft. These are all players. Invited into the. Sixty Man Pool Louis. Toribio, right yes, only be the one who gets the least pub of all those I mentioned How tough is it or was it easy of a call to have those people in knowing that? Some of them wouldn't even play in the big leagues, but it's just about advancing their development. What went into the decision making to keep those kids as part of the pool? Yes, I think. You know it's. It's never an easy decision to leave the people off that. We left off. That doesn't exclude them from being added at some point, but. At the same time. I think it was a no brainer that you know. Some of these young kids near the developmental reps in the experience that came I think in a perfect world. They'd be playing in their minor league cities right now, but with the. The minor league season, being cancelled and the uncertainty this fall about whether you know we're going to be able to do much with our our young minor-league players. It was important that that some of these guys got out and played a Patrick Bailey who you mentioned. Obviously, it's important that we learn him and he learns us that we can help them. Grow, but also he missed all fall. You know there situations like he missed the fall because It NC state because he had a yeah, I believe it was like a broken jaw right, he couldn't. He couldn't play, so he missed fall Baldwin into spring and spring got cut short, so it was important that he gets back on the field and his his getting some developmental reps, because otherwise he'd be almost a over a year with very little playing time if we would held off if if some happened in the fall so. that goes for Joey and in Romo's as well So you know Joey had stints cut short last year with a hand injury, and you know getting cut short. This year just just seemed like it was not going to be healthy for Joey so You know we made the decision to to go ahead and far on obviously when it through, and we picked a few guys that needed this, and obviously there's a lot more than these guys need it, but we only had so many spots. Yes, we can have joey. Bard is kind of a shame. You mention the injuries and now this. Not exactly the. The course that Buster Posey took a tenor twelve years ago. you know there's so many comparisons being drawn, but in his case only seventy eighty seven plate appearances above Class A and they were all AA last year. Never in any and AAA. So that was the idea going in for him to open in the League's. We were told, but but now with the shortened season and. You know the fact that sixty games at the big league? And he'll be developing, but also perhaps available. Who knows they have the universal the h this year? What do you see what bark could do for this team or this organization in twenty twenty. Yeah I mean I think in some regard. Joey probably could help the major league team. You know some regard that We also want to make sure that were were not. Cutting developed short so I think there's always gonna be that tough. Call about. When is the right time? To make sure that Joey is ready for the for the major leagues and ready to to be the best version of himself that he can be when he does. Get there and. you know I think that's going to be a debate probably all summer long to be quite honest is. A win is the right time and. It'll vary day by day, and that'll be a decision nine so. Far. Scott era, and and gave Kappler and others that will be bouncing off each other all the time so. you know there's no doubt that Joey could help in some shape or form probably right now but at the same time we also don't want to stall joys development by you know wanting to see him just in in the big lakes before he's ready. Okay makes sense and Far Hans, Eighty! Said something I've never heard before. You can never have too. Many catchers never have too much. Catching and I knew that about hitching I didn't know that about catching a sure enough. You Have Bailey. You have bark and you have posed in the big leagues. All Star and three time World Series Champs, so that's a pretty deep position in this organization now. How do you see that playing out with two catchers who are elite elite prospects And you know well decorated and on the fasttrack, maybe not to the big leagues, but maybe one day they'll be teammates with the giants. Yeah itself. These things have a way of playing themselves out and. you know who knows probably it seems like. We're looking towards A. Universal D. H. here soon probably, and you know honestly. Personally I kinda I. Kinda liked the national. League style. Not because I like watching pitchers hit I just always like how the pitcher spot is always seems. To interact with big innings and ended up playing apart and and you know creates a lot more of a jockey, but you know we're looking at that D. H., and and as we get the DA with buster and enjoy both being right handed hitters and and Patrick being switch vendor. There's ways to be creative to probably get enough playing time for all of them. This needed when that time comes, and you know these these situations tend to work themselves out and. Having too many good players. Is that good Crompton half? I San Francisco giants, obviously not the fairest thing for for those guys, but I think. Instead of looking for someone who's just adequate, enough and one of them each. You know having having too many good options to pick from is never a bad thing. We'll hundred bishops was your first round pick last year? And what is new with him? He tested positive for the covid before the sixty man pools were set, so he went into quarantine. What's his situation now in? Could we see him soon? Situation Analyses. His home and it will his home in Arizona currently. Corinthian making sure, he gets through his health protocols. The way supposed to he feels great. Talk to him pretty regularly I and He says he's feeling great, and he did the right thing he you know he. He knew he was exposed to someone who did test positive. He tested himself. What, while I was still feeling great, and and the test unfortunately came back positive, and he reported it right away, and He decided to. Shelter in place there, so he didn't expose other people and He very easily could have been greedy and hit from it, and and you know something like that, but instead he knew what the right thing to do was. He's feeling great. He's doing great. He's just unable to. Leave until we get through this. Protocol for for positive case and. You know I think the plan would be that once. We can get them cleared. Get Him healthy that we we can maybe somehow get him some register ups in if it's here if it's in Sacramento in that time or is. Okay and there are. Players who you know, some pretty big time prospects who are not on the sixty man pool Shan't Jelly set corey. Alexander Canario and many others How how do you monitor them? How do you know that they're doing what they need to do? and. How tough is it that they're really going to miss a full season because they're not part of this at all? Yeah, so I mean. We're still hoping for some fall. first of all which obviously get a lot of guys, some help with with wraps if possible, so we're still crossing our fingers on that as for Alexander Canario were actually gonna go ahead and add. He's San Francisco right now waiting out is intake testing just to make sure that when he arise that he's completely clearly. Of the nineteen and and he's feeling strong before he ever enters the stadium, so it's a process that every single person including myself as went through and Sometimes it can be a little slower He had to fly all the way in excetera, but he's. He's GonNa Join I. I believe here soon. and You know further pitching. I think it's. It seems like You know one one area that we really leaned on is trying to make sure that the position players are here getting as many development arrests they count on the field hitting and that the the pitching prospects than are much more able to stay. Home is still working whether it's in San Francisco locally where they're at so I know Sean is working really hard I. Know Seth Working Really and others as well that we haven't mentioned. On the pitching side, so I'd say in general, the the pitching prospects are are kind of guys that guy from sixty man through unfortunately, but we also feel like. They're development. Can still taking steps forward all much easier than the position players? Will have more of Kyle Haines right after this quick break. Does the anticipation of another desk lunch of carrots and ranch dressing. Keep you up at night. Secure Extra Spicy and New San Francisco Chronicle podcast by me so Leho the Justin Phillips Look. I I thought I was going to have to go defend ranch wholeheartedly right now, but. I see what's happening. I'll chill. I'll be cool. Leave it for next time. You'll hear that and more slander every week. Subscribe to extra spicy now on apple, spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. How serious do take those rankings? Because the giants are higher than I recall at covered the team for a long long time, and they've gotten a lot of twenty five to thirty twenty to thirty somewhere on the back end, but the you know the way you're drafting bringing in the international talent. You seem to be rising on the charts. Yeah, no, we're very proud. Obviously it'd farm system. One of our goals is not to not to win. The farm system rankings the win in the big leagues, so I think our hope. Is that You know we can. We can translate a Lotta. These guys and it won't be all of them. hopefully it all, but you know you can't count on on everyone turning out, but. You know if you can create a good. depth pool of talented players in. You got better odds of creating that next. Wave. Home grown talent or Or players that you know can can help at least challenge other players for jobs. and. you know obviously when you're when you're competing for so hard baseball. To build a good farm system because you're always needing to trade for pieces, otherwise, you're just living in free agency, and then you never pick in the draft so it makes are really challenging on the teams who are consistently winning to never make mistakes almost in any traitor or in in the draft, which is or the international signing period, which is really tough. It's tough to do you're GONNA make mistakes on kids this young but You you really, it's hard, it's it's really difficult to win an pharmacist at the same time, but that's up. We're GONNA TRY TO DO. We're very proud of our farm system, but. The bottom line is. We got a lot of really good players. The players deserve the credit obviously our our coaching and some change some player development philosophies has really. Helped a lot of those in between prospects like Louis Toribio at some of the Canarios who are. Signing. But, you know players make price, so the the talent of the players makes us look really smart the minor, leagues. The draft held last month we spoke about Patrick Bailey of NC state at number one, but a couple of other guys who really jump off and you took seven picks in five rounds because of the supplementary picks. having lost Madison Bumgarner and Will Smith. But Casey Schmidt Third Baseman closer out of San Diego State and in the fifth round. Kyle Harrison local kid out of Dallas. L. Lefty who was targeted for Ucla but seems like he is going to turn pro, but what about those two guys? Casey seems to be just a Jack of all trades baseball player. Great Kid I recently. Met Him during his physical role, briefly helped him sign his contract and see my great kid barely excited to get started. He's going to be a third base only for us so even though he did pitch I college team and was a closer i. he definitely probably has the talent to try it, but we really believe him as a third baseman and You know he's just a baseball player. That's that's the best way to describe them, not just Cornerman to. Only a defender only Henry can probably do anything on the field that he wants to do. Defensive Third Baseman who who should be able to hit and you know it's our job. Fire development is to to bring out the most that bat and from all indicators is. He's going to be a really good defensive third base from the first days in our system. Obviously he's got a press throwing arm ninety five off the mound so That's that's a good thing and then from the from the bow. We think there's a lot more there and a lot of good qualities that are there, and it's our job part of to make those things come out China. And then Harrison. Yeah Harrison Young high school left-hander with plus deal for pitching Plus Command Hum, he's already got a good good fastball. Low Nineties maybe can bump it up a little higher fee needed to. Good slider with a lot of potential on it with good command. Feel like we. We got a great prior there. Hopefully he's he's still still got to. Finalize details signed but You know when that time comes we. We feel really good about the player that we're gonNA. Bring in. And being a local kid to help. Support, the the the bay area and have that. Local. you know feel to. The team is always an added bonus. will at and then after such an unusual twenty twenty and so many ways the draft is only five rounds, but then the opportunity to sign anybody UNDRAFTED free agents is what they're called in. The giants picked up six of them. What is it five college kids and a high school kid from Washington but There's there's some intriguing talent in. They're just going down the list the pitcher from Illinois. Tie Weber the outfielder from North Carolina Central carter-williams Will Johnson pitcher from pepperdine. Read our Baca a catcher from Alabama another catcher, from USF here in town Robert Emery than high school kid from Washington and outfielders tyler foreigner. Might address a couple of those including the emery catcher from from USF, and and what went into those signings and woody like about these guys. Yeah No, we. Can you Michael Holmes isn't amazing job administaff. amazing their preparation for the draft, and then that helped kind of bring these these names to the forefront. Of. Guys that we wanted to target You know some teams. these all these kids eligibilities left to some shape or form, and and obviously with the drafting. Bonuses, Being Limited I think a lot of people expected. This should be this amazing amount of talent. A lot of guys could go back to school so i. think we really just narrowed it on a on a on on specific targets that we really valued? Instead of signing guys that are not going to get a try because you have Canarios. and. Guys like that. Who Luciano's who? Who are going to play next year and instead of signing guys that are are not going to get playing time. retargeted the ones that we really wanted in pursuit, those heart and yeah mean we feel very blessed to get the guys we got and I can legitimately say everyone that we signed was a priority target for us. to some degree and it was. Identifies as scouts people that you know we we really needed to have. the our back. Who you mentioned? you know he was a huge priority for us. took a little while. Off Jeez I'm going to. Bet. Half to answer that question. It probably was over. Twenty of thirty teams were pursuing him and. You know he's a catcher utility guy can play. Everywhere does a little bit of everything and we were. We were extremely excited about him, and and I don't want to single him out because I could talk about all the guys because a lot of the guys that we did pursue as well that we have as priorities did return to college, so you Kinda, tip your hat and you know they take their education serious. And they went ahead went back and they have another shot of next year's draft, but. yeah I. Mean I think there's some gyms in there? I know. I was excited about each and every one of them personally but you know on Robert, emery. We would be a fool to ignore what he did it at USF and and how good of a curry had there, and and not to not the key for feet and far Hans saying. Too, much catching his. We'll we'll inert let them enter the system and and see how he plays from there, but we're excited to have the local kid who had a very nice accomplished career USF and Very, deserving of signing with his hometown team. In. Deep. You know everything about the minor league you had in camp in February, and March and multi most of those are now off. The away from the game or doing things on their own in the game, but just not at Oracle Park with the other prospects, and now you have a whole new list of draftees and undrafted free agents. That you haven't had in this system, but now suddenly are joining the system. How do you monitor those guys versus the guys that you know that you've had in the Organization for a year two or three compared to these folks? Yeah! I mean we just compare the best became We're standing contact with them. We're trying to get video from the ones that are working remotely. From what I can. You know it's tough. It's tough. Evaluate these guys. Do we get them side by side and? And really see how they they compare to each other, but. you know we're just doing whatever we can at this point Some guys are progressing really well home gain in velocity, and really working on things that some guys are are kind of their growth, more stagnant so we won't really fully know kind of the effects of this this layoff in midseason. Maybe until next late next spring training after we gotta get guys all the same do and your same thing goes for the non-draft free agents. The drafted players where you know. They missed a huge part of their college season so. They're missing used development when those as well so There's still a lot of unknowns to be the now with with our players. The players that we recently signed. Sure before we sign off here I-. Jalen Davis so an intriguing I i. hear nothing, but good things from far Han from Gabe. And he did it all in triple A. and we saw a little bit in the big leagues. But how good can this young man be? Yeah I. Mean I think the sky's the limit? He showed us that last year between. The twins and AAA and in Sacramento when we made the trade there. He looked fantastic, and he got a brief a cup of coffee their in the big leagues, September and now he's got his feet wet and hopefully now he's ready to take off and I think he's kind of really came into his own last year, and and figured out a lot of things, and the hope would be that he's able to take those that he figured out in Aaa year and took a huge step forward. Announced Transition those to the major leagues which is easier, said than done, but you know now he's. He's got that rookie status already over with then called out he's. You know he's no longer having to carry that burden of my ever. GonNa play in the big leagues. He's He's played in the big leagues. And now it's just a up to him to go out and. Take advantage and seize the opportunity. That's that's in front of him and I think he's. The same player that we saw last year than he has a chance to be a a nice starting outfielder for us for a long time. Well Leslie Imagine how tough this roller coaster emotionally has been for you. Let alone the players, but how how have you dealt with it? From watching these prospects and spring training to having the game, suddenly shut down in mid March, two monitoring all these young players over the past few months to finally bringing them. Here in San Francisco and You know to to to monitor their progress, but I'll you know also to monitor those who aren't here? How's that gone for you? Because it's just a crazy twenty twenty for everybody, but you're overseeing the farm system and that's a whole bunch of people. Absolutely it said I mean I'm not. GonNa lie. It's been overwhelming at times for a lot of but you know this is what we do. This is what we signed up for and especially myself where? I think Mike Tyson always said everybody's got great plan until you get punched in the mouth and in a way we've been pushing her mouth by the by the pandemic here as far as plans go for the minor leagues and how we're going to operate. You know it's A. Big Part of what we do is being reactionary to problems that you can't predict and these these. This is a huge huge problem that we could not predict, and we've just been very reactionary and It's definitely not been easy. It's not been cleaned. It's not been perfect, but we're doing the best we can. I know that and I will our farm system and our coordinators and our staff How well they handled this whole situation. Our players I would put off up against anybody how we've handled this You know imperfect situation We're never going to handle it perfectly, but we're trying to handle in a very. Messy. Situation that the best we can, and we know we're not perfect, but you know there's there's no way to planet. We don't know the rules. what we can or can't do, and we're just waiting a lot and trying to plan for things. We don't know if we're allowed to do in the fall for example but. We're just doing the best we can. It's it's been a mess. We know we've made mistakes, but at the same time we'll put the. The way our staff in the PD side Zach handled the situation against anybody very proud of them. Well, that's great. Kyle! Thank you very much I want to. Thank you for your honesty and your time, and your thoughts, and the best of luck to you in the team moving forward in these challenging times. Thanks for having me on John. We're we're excited watching baseball I. Know It's tough Fra so everyone right now. It seems like everything's. Every of news is negative, but. You know I know I was in the ballpark today, and and everyone's looking at each other, but you know I know everyone in that ballpark safe as we can be, and we're safer there than we would be in a grocery store somewhere so. we're just excited to get on field and play some baseball and. And maybe gives some people back home. Something to watch and feel good about other than just Washington the negativity. That's just surrounding our lives nowadays. Thanks for joining us on the giants splash podcast. Henry Shulman and I will continue bringing you podcast approaching the start of the scheduled twenty twenty season. The giants splash is a production of the San Francisco Chronicle podcast producers King Kaufman and Allen Johnson. The theme Song Batter Up was written and performed by Lauren Gold and Ray East Louis support the splash in all of our great journalism by signing up for a chronicle membership at F Chronicle Dot. com slash pod.

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Touching Me, Touching You

Giles Coren Has No Idea

25:13 min | 1 year ago

Touching Me, Touching You

"Isolation tank week forty seven. Now you said a very interesting thing. Yes and even more interesting thing morning right. His you have been exceptionally bullish about our isolation lifestyle marvelous wonderful. I love it. You were really really. I don't have to see my friends. I don't have to go to any boring offices. I didn't have to review any stupid restaurants. Have to go on an airplane identity. Go and do stupid trouble shows that I hate I earn my salary anyway writing my columns and doing podcast and stuff like that. I get to teach the children in the mornings. Get to the heat in the afternoon. We could luckily meals from scratch. Brilliant and you have actually held very good to that to that. Optimism held very good. Sorry you have actually kept up that optimism momentum until yesterday when we were on all one daily state sanctioned woke up the day when you said to me and you said I think I can have another conversation with. You didn't say that did you didn't say in a mean way. Thank no it was because become for walking. Hempseed he planned. We're going to walk through there. And then pick cricket with the kids and the kid starts to climb a tree and I know come on keep on walking. Keep on marching excited. No way that is and I just so I said No. It's it's we're going to do the half an hour you talk to you again. Thank thank I can have another conversation which is absolutely on huddle. All you want to do is about until today. It's all about me. It's about you by not to have a conversation with you. I've caught up to where you were in July. Two THOUSAND TEN THREE MONTHS INTO MARRIAGE. I Find E. Finally you must be really happy. Giles's finding me and is nothing to say it again morning I was is at right on gop says and get dressed and you shouted upstairs after me. I'm impose I've only slightly bored because I sort of got everything done so I write three columns a week. I do a radio show and podcast. That's probably all told about twenty five hours work or twenty hours but not even and I and the rest of the time. I'm trying jogging normally. I'm trying to TV. Show do other things not doing any of the other things being home all the time. I have to fit that in with socializing which we don't do. I'm so on top of everything that this morning. I had to put Casper pet. I was up at six in the morning prepared. Ready to you'd never think of this thing to preparation but it does and then you end up set to get dressed and you were doing school today. Yeah me and I just thought to go going to do for the next. I won't be the book sooner. Yeah I was bored I was born said it finally getting to you which I thought was quite interesting. That's an interesting subject. I've also felt that. Have another book on Hamster Teeth. We live four minutes five minutes from the heath. We've tried to vary it by stopping walking up there but driving to the heat to a different bit of the heat and walking in a different way as does yawning. I'd say apologizes. Just want people to know that this is this is some people like comedians at the moment at a struggling to perform these online things that John Oliver the English comedian presents that show in America. He was asked. What's it like performing big line in the Times today? What's it performing without an audience? And he he was also in America and he said Oh. I started my career in England. I'm used to telling jokes to know laughter. It'll not only do. I have no laughter for my performances. Such as they are. I've got my wife owning my face. Sorry yes you reported your afternoon walk. You're bored with loading the DISHWASHER showed. How can you even do this discussion online? Luckily your new hire someone is nearest as you are. Okay so I thought that might be is fuck off by the way one thing tension to what you said to what you said just before. I'm code maybe could be a global numerical phasing array. You can tell us a corona virus lockdown because every pencil in the house has been chopin self and all the colored pencils over. Everything's been redone with the shavings. You must have enough to make a cap bed out of it. In my new Helix Pencil shop. We wrote three pencils and Electrical Jayme winding winding. I had to. I HAVE HAD ELECTRIC PENCIL. Shoppers in the parks. They break and you. Obviously you've got this far without me. You'll be wanting some advice you. What about these sharpened pencils not taking God? Never take off as a text from our producers saying shows up. Okay how can you do if if it's not clam to the table because you put it out like that and then you you do that? And then he pushed the pen on. Oh my Christ extraordinary. What a shame. This isn't a video podcast of La Cart because then we could just watch. Sharpen pencils enact tip read. We just listeners. If you're struggling to get your stationary surprise from Amazon. May I recommend getting from Viking direct whether it got everything you could possibly need for your pretend time? Schooling setup can be. Yeah we will not me. I'm very absolutely amazing. Grace MO MIGHT BE K. Show you could. I bet in these times of people being could you could do a people. Just sharpen pencils supposed to be topless right top the pencil job. How how you'll find me boards. I think okay no I think too. I think possibly bit boring also bearing in mind that we do have a new column starting this Saturday in the magazine where my restaurant Relaxing Times magazine this Saturday? Times magazine in the double spread where might double page spread where my restaurant review used to be anymore because there are no restaurants because as kitty would say of the Enviros? Which is our favorite joke. We go for walks. We will go for Pizza yes owner. We can't because they're all shot because of the Iran. Yes there's a condom now which is about school. Splendid ISOLATION IS DIFFERENT perspectives spend. It is burnt. I actually said it should be called to relation question mark but Nikola is the Saturday Times magazine when I sent it to her and I said do you think we should call it. I think we should call rented isolation question how she thought I was saying what you call it. Spend it `isolation and that the question mark was attached to my question rather than the name so the Collins sprinted isolation I wanted it to be called splendid isolation. Was this done over. The final is a was gone. Email Nikola deal as we know who is editor has no thoughts so whatever she accidents. They were Microsoft dawn and into the country and find seventy thousand copies of the times and put a question mark. I'm not allowed out. Okay so look so I just think so. We've got this new column starting. Which is you and me. The first one is like in the country or in the city which is better. Yeah I know I said. The country needs to carry on from their thrash. Out Like My. I'm bored either. Okay here. My neck side. The bugle crime is on the UP. A Van Gogh for stone disease. Now well my friend who's equipment direst rose about different. My friends had bicycle stone. Becky was a criminal bias that she defends criminals and she said that crime is definitely. There's there's been no flannel though to shut up and also in the paper yesterday that the story about a van Gogh food stolen from a museum. Wallet was shot because of the Korean Avars K. So I thought you a fun piece might be all the crimes that you giles. Ah Planning to commit during the Korean virus. I don't think I don't think stealing a van. Golf is as bad as the people stockpiling hand Sanitizer Gel and sending it the fifty two Butler Amazon. Which is an awful lot of anyway. I think there's a worst yet the crimes I'm going to commit. I think I've got better stuff with his talking about. Crimes is a funny thing that I thought. Will you be Jack Greenish? The football played bring in a few times and Captain Invest Villa Rumor to begin to Manchester United Eighty million pounds. He was stopped by the police car and his crime was he was going to see a mate and I just thought I became saying Manchester. United Transfer is in jeopardy eighty million transfer to man united for for this is in jeopardy because he went out to see a major in the north with crash. Aston Aston Martin's while while drunk the days when Joey Barton play with mighty would get banged up for street brawling. They will alcoholics. Drink drugs all the time. Time harassed women the full getting done for sexual assault and rape all those kinds of things. We're now we've got to a world which is so puritanical. I'm that Jagr is jeopardises his career by going out to see him make picks and people and they said how do we know he wasn't going to a party pictures in the press showed him wearing one house slipper and one slider because he literally got so important he put to mismatching shoes which football do not do if they're going somewhere with is going to be birds and cameras and stuff and I just thought it was sort of funny because normally fuller someone else. Put your shoes on for you. That's exactly yes exactly. And then we'll football is just life is running around. Is Bad for being stuck at home? Footballers have to us in the morning. Two hundred in the afternoon the rest of the time they play video games and yeah someone else brings. Donald trump who them because I whistled. Football's all sports a incredibly tragic live. This is going to be a column because the shape of the football is going to be really fact an unfit and out of breath and I have long argued that hyper fitness was bad for football the syllable that I used to love the nineteen seventies when football is were fat. The fat off door's always anyone go. He's fat he's round bounces on the ground. Sami League Stamkos fags and they used to smoke and drink. And then they played quite creatively and then football is became bitter bitter bitter they could run and run and run and I was saying if you want to watch men being fit running much fucking athletics. Football is meant to be about Giza's right having fun with the ball. I think when we come back the football as we're GONNA be twenty stone. We're going to let James Corden and Johnny Vegas. We're going to be a very different thing. We see that buck crafts. They can't quite get there little shorts or shocking. Absolutely fucking Smith. Can You Imagine Harry Tape Hurricane? People joking about him being like the young Henry. He's going to be old henry the I mean he when he led the nine in. The two thousand. Eighteen looks quite fun. Who else was just just fact. Ferrets much to go running messy mess. He's quite tubby. Anyway I mean He. He's anyways Peter Crossword game fast. Appeasal football no really anymore. So that's funny. Garin coastal be Celt. He's very handsome angering Linda. Jerry is doing unfurling instagram recipes cooked reveals to you and I wanted the crispy nookie he's the stories are all. Here's the thing that I thought I've noticed I might be wrong. I think people are posting on. Instagram is the current of is going to be end of instagram. Instagram was just a boasting format. It is just boasting format before the virus or people did the made the people who were on holiday. Those ones where you get these post which said good morning full stop and it will be a sun setting over the sea and or in the morning. Get NOT A bad place to for the daily Commute. Were on a motive. Got Into the office early someone with a laptop with you know on the Table Mountain in South Africa just showing off. My life is better than yours. My wife Betty this data everywhere and the swing squeamish that was in the world about climate change wasn't reflected and we used to have this. We have quite a lot of rich friends who are always on holiday all the time having an amazing time. That's all stopped because they're not allowed to go away and if they do and they awesome and then I think the impulse to show off is being removed a little bit. Because we're all supposed to be in this together and not having a better life and I've seen rather distasteful ones from people I know. Live in beautiful houses in the countryside. Not a bad place to the isolated quite early and they got a lot of fuck off. Yeah so I think it's also people used instagram. Their food look how beautiful. It generates restaurants like seventy percent of all instagram posts. That's gone then. People were posting the food that cooking at home and now that was so aware that people have no food me. We'll have those people who stockpiled food. Just take videos and self making these delicious tougher food they start. We suddenly realizing these are the ship bags of course a problem. Suddenly if you're not posting holiday snaps if you not posting meals and all the style. Instagram is very very difficult for them as well because people on blind class so if you noticed a dropping off of replacing Atlantic there was one very bad taste one from a Danish at my entire demographic would they work they work or how many kids. They bought obsessed by groceries. Style influence a blogger. Whatever and she's asking the countryside in her beautiful house and Janet pitcher powered some shining. She's wearing some chanel jump. Seizing not a bad place to be isolated on I just went on. I mean it was just so too hard bridge success with a Kado slots and WHO's got which go. High street shops has still go eggs left. And at what time do you have to be that have to get to get them? I'm just I'm just saying to myself is this. Is this making better? People officer is it making. Is it finally the equality that we ought to have instagram? Was this place where you boast about. How much bet your life is us? That's what it was for and that's why it was so discussing. Twitter is where you go on to be a smart awesome. Tell everyone that you think the same things as you that they should die. And instagram's your Halo. My life is better than you and I think saying. Hey Look my life is better than yours it we which is Jesus told us not two thousand years ago but we forgot. I think the creative arts is reminding us and I don't think there's anything left present for Instagram to do to go on instagram. And say look. I'm as ugly and poor and as bad cooking as you. Yeah yeah that's a fucking social media that's just an eternal truth. Bring found while to sell stuff. I think maybe it's the incident that's good will be interesting is the end of instagram. That's a particular column. Although that could also be for other column in the magazine. The one we write together. I can do yes. It is and you could do no. It's not in weeks to come. You slightly irritatingly every man. Yeah well now I got nothing no no. I know but you have been doing the homeschooling apart from yesterday. You've done. Having listened for mostly mostly we got two thousand fucking eggs. Yeah eggs of brain cross just nipping off at ten minutes comes back with bags of eggs. Dwells picking somebody it's true you know it's true panic yesterday about the loaf of bread spills the big reserved for Teddy Natalie. Tokay veteran gales and I voted for more than T. the Milton's brought inbred. Oh it's the EU Brown already funny until you go into the president. 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Ep. 30: EPL Weekend Review (f/t Spurs vs Chelsea) and Champions League Matchweek 5 Preview

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Ep. 30: EPL Weekend Review (f/t Spurs vs Chelsea) and Champions League Matchweek 5 Preview

"Sam's army. We are back satyrs back soccer's great soccer's glorious. There's a lot of soccer talk about people. It is Tuesday November twenty seven and this is thirty. And I am Sam and you Mike or Mikey? Mikey was just good to have it back. There was a couple of momentarily Saturday when you're watching. You're just like the next international break isn't for four months. You just got a little bit of a little bit of a chubby and. Just excited. Yeah. It gets you excited. And then you see Paul moss running around and just fucking around for livable. And you're just like oh my God. This is why hate myself because I love this so much trouble Lord out there that was so frustrating. It was just funny because that was the moment for me when the day started where it was like, all right? We're ready like soccer's back. Let's do this. And then like two minutes in I thought that like wash should have had a penalty against Liverpool, and I was like screaming and being like fuck this. Fifty four minutes in two percents. I'm I know exactly what you're talking about. We're gonna get. Yeah. We'll get. Fuming? I was fuming. We'll start with a couple of top stories. So there's two of them. I would say there's Coppola Doris, and there is US mail soccer player of the year. So let's start with down urge Tina. What what could have been the showcase for South American soccer turned into an absolute farce this weekend. Argentina's should be embarrassed herself. So we're talking about River Plate and voca juniors in the second leg they're going back to river up tied to to it should have been just an absolutely incredible game. It should have been just everything that that that you you know, that you dream about insider and instead it got completely ruined by poor fan behavior. And by. You know, like questionable decision making part of the thirties and federations and just everybody everybody in their in their mothers, just you know, sort of culpable of this. It's a black guys in. I mean like what were the third the thirties? I think are the biggest joke here because what are you doing? You know, not put putting them in a boss that you could just throw a Cam through or whatever people probably throwing rocks, and there was tear glass. We're throwing everything. But like, you know, how do you not have a more a safer bus for these people that are going to be traveling in? How why is it completely like, you know, covered in Boca stuff, excuse me. So they, of course, fans know who it is and everything I mean, it's just like. I don't know everybody's to blame here. My big might the big thing. I saw a couple of weeks ago was that in Boca stadium. They changed the Coca Cola logo on the advertising board because they hate read so much they won't allow any red inside the stadium and that just gives you an idea when you saw the practice the practice venue for Boca before there's booms thousand people like you need to understand that what you're dealing with is. I mean think about like Cologne an arsenal a few years ago with with the hooliganism industries for a Europa league. Clash like the security was less severe than that. And this is for the what would they call it the Fennell? No like, they were calling it like the final finals, and they still treat it like a match week twenty four away to stoke like Rb like I just don't I don't understand how. You can let your nation be reflected in such a negative light there needed to be more precautions than new to be smarter options. But I mean at the end of the day this game, we talked about the passion as if it was something glorious and romantic for a while. And I think that we were kind of knowing the the the true hostility of it like how dangerous situation actually is. And you know, it's it's it's pretty bad. Just shameful sexy. Yeah. There's a thin line between passionate and anarchy. Characterize it on Instagram. And obviously, they they went too far one way, you know. Yeah. Basically arche. So now, they don't know win the game's going to be played there. I heard I heard Miami was actually I would love to hear. I would love to hear about it after. What happened? I would love to hear about how the game went after with with a full replay. They just put it on TV. No, no fans. Nothing fans. They don't they don't even tell us. What's happening nothing? That's the only way that will actually get played probably at this point. Yeah. So we'll see it's just just turned into a big big time forest in really, really bad. We talk about bad years for the men's national team in America. But Argentina brand took a hit this year in this could have been real crowning achievement. If not at least a redemption, but no more. So we'll see how that goes second story the US men's soccer player of the year, which the five candidates. I'll read a mosaic. Stephan met me as go Weston mckennie. Tyler Adams will trap are the five candidates. You'll notice that Christian pulisic is not one of them, which is pretty noticeable. I did not. I'm sure pretty much everybody. Did you know when you said before the call you would vote for nobody? No. I would probably lean towards gashes. I'd probably lean towards. Lead toward Stephan. If I was a completely unbiased person, but goalies are the worst and they're barely even like soccer players. So it's hard to consider him like a part of the five. So I would actually probably lean towards mckennie out of the other four. For this. Do you know the votes those players, probably I suppose coaches and players probably I have no idea. Yeah. I mean, I think it's probably gonna go to Stephan. Just because he was a name you hadn't heard of before the year started as a men's national team future goalkeeper. And now he kinda owns it. So I think that that just goes to show his talent level, and he's one of the few players, and when you talk about this award. It's that progressed their stock where their status within the team the most and two for me are him and Tyler Adams. Yeah. I did too. I think McKinney. Yeah. He was a he was a name. And he was like, wow. Every we love. Schulkin? But the fact is going to actually being a part of a real conversation is a big step forward. I can see that. I just think he's taken way more strides in his club career than he has in his international career. And I think that we way that a little bit. Tyler Adams for me is just an exciting future player for this team. And it's clear to everybody. That's why I think he might garner. The votes he has the highest ceiling other than McKinney probably this group, and then I would say Stephens, probably you're safe. Joyce still can't believe the politic wasn't top five. I mean, that's just one of those like, hey kid. Now, we expect you to be this. Right. It's like one of those things where LeBron they're just tired of giving Brown than BP award. I mean, we get compared with six Brown if you'd like. What if our best athletes play basketball than well? I don't think. Lebron's miss the playoffs. Okay. Shut the fuck up. Well, so so your vote for nobody. Or are you going to now I'm gonna go Zach Steph? Okay. I think he'll probably it to. So there there's your top stories. We will now move to EPL. So he'll going on as always, but we will start with the big game of the weekend. The London Darby Spurs hosting Chelsea, I guess you hosting be double. So this was just a straight up spur, you get you get so self deprecating when you have good weeks as a team you're like my team. I mean, I, you know, I don't feel comfortable with success. Clearly, it's in my DNA, which makes me a perfect Spurs fan. So this is I mean, speaking of that this is a one eighty for that because this was a complete asshole perfect game Spurs best game they've played in a year, multiple years. They just just him. To Chelsea Dido behind the woodshed and spanking shit out of so to get this out of the way, I Martin in the referee. He did not give penalty when he absolutely should have one fourth his brain does not work. Very well. And he absolutely filed in has are in the box. It should have been unbelievable. Martin Atkinson such a Thuat. It was it was a it was a horrible call. So Chelsea fans are right to be aggrieved about that. However. And you know, there's some games or something we're a play like that could change the game or whatever. Absolutely not Tottenham was already winning already dominating. This game was just it's Chelsea was lucky to only lose two in. If it wasn't so wasteful. Yeah. You know, he finally got a goal which which was a such a good goal. It wasn't nice school. And it was just good to get him on the off the Schneider as they say, but he was wasteful for awhile. Yeah. But you know, our. Finishing wasn't the greatest. But everything else. I mean like we every time you touch the ball. You were you were creating a chance. Yeah. I mean, we'll both. That's what happens when both teams sort of, you know, trying to press the other one and really try and go at the other one it just it just didn't work for Chelsea. I don't know what happened with their midfield. But I have this season. Their midfield is incredible their midfield got dominated by Ericsson deli son. Dyer supporting in the back like they they just got. So I gotta say his Oko had a good game have been given him shit, however long and he's played better lately. But this is definitely his best performance. Probably for Spurs period. Chelsea I don't think I think this game said more about Spurs and. Reinforces what I've been saying all season started. I was starting to let lack confidence in my own words. Spurs ceiling is a lot higher than a lot of people seem to think I think this was more about Spurs and it was about chosen. I think it was a reality. Check for Chelsea confirms that they're not going to be in the conversation with Liverpool city, but I don't think it is some sort of like sky's falling. And Chelsea is like not a really good team. I think they just had a bad game. They played a team that was as good as Spurs of been in. God knows how long now that we're finally healthy. And we got all these guys going forward. I think they run a new they ran into a buzzsaw, and and it showed. But I don't think I don't think this is some sort of red flag for Chelsea's future. Credit words, do I mean, I can't say anything negative about the performance. He will made a big save as well. I'm just excited. Starting to get confidence in him right before we play. As you root scored late goal that didn't mean a whole lot. I'll tell you for all the talk about your genial. I saw a lot of side-by-side statistics with him. Grant shock the season. They were pretty jarring. Georgina is I mean, they're playing Kante very advanced or genius sweeping up. It's almost like they gave way they gave away. Contest perferred position. Almost in a way that bombing Nakas at where right where you push one guy somewhere else because having to on the field and like the better one being a little uncomfortable. Makes you a better side or something like they're not playing contained your genial correctly together. I think caught as a little too far forward, and that's leaving Dovid Lewis. Just vicks. He had a rough game. He he got out of the way of Kane's goal. I mean, he legitimately got out of the way of Kane's goal. He somehow managed to stay in the vision. But you know, got out of the way the ball. And that wasn't even his worst place. Worst play was on Soanes goal sunny like win around or Gino, and expose your genial. If people thought that Georgie new ahead, like a weakness clearly his speed. He is so slow. Sode ran right right around him. And then David w Lewis comes running at him and takes like. White. It was like eighth grade defending. It was just like what the fuck are you doing man just completely whiffs and then sun scores one on four. It was a great goal. But I mean that's fifty percent on David Lewis horrible defense and being slow as hell and to get your point. I don't know if there is a way for Georgina Kante to play together. I don't know if there's a way to play them more correctly. I just think they play the same position in one of them is sort of going to take that you know, there's so much air out there for a six, right? And yet, I don't know if they can have them both which which was the the concern going into the season whether bringing Giorgio and you knew he was going to be saris guy. Whether that is going to be a problem with content and clearly is so far. Yeah. I mean, we're talking about one game. They have been great. But he did it looked like exactly what we're talking about. It looked exam. Like two players trying to be jammed in the same position. And it just not working out. Like it just didn't feel right. They didn't have a midfield presence. When has had the ball. He felt like he was on an island. They just didn't have whatever Chelsea seems to have to me the field. Just look big for them. Like they were leaving way too much space deli. Allie was on another plant planet in terms of his physicality decision making. It was fantastic. Cain was affective. And son was dangerous. I mean that was as good as time's gonna look also soco was terrible. It was I would get go. So far to say is was actually good in this game. Which is probably the first time. I've said that and. Don't say that I- credit. I gotta give a little credit. So yeah. So so it's sort of a good news for Spurs. It's definitely, you know, if you're gels that you never wanna see your team get absolutely work like that, which they absolutely were. But you know, I think it's a one off I think Chelsea will be okay. I think so too one of these teams are title dinners for the record. No, I don't either. But I'm hoping Chelsea falls into that three or four five battle, right? As opposed to the locked in the third as a lot of people seem to have them or even people have higher fighting for the title as a couple of weeks ago. So I think right. We can dispense with that conversation. Finally, I had I had the better for a while. Test before we get to Liverpool. And you know, we both have a lot to say about that game. It sounds like let's go through. Through the scoreless draw United in palace real quickly. Not much not much to say. Other than the post game press conference, which was telling for me because usually Josie comes out he's combative, he's throwing people under the best left. And right. He wasn't doing any of that. He just looked like he was resigned to this result. And like he just looked like us out of ideas. And that that's a problem. You know, I mean, this is this is the Josie who. You know? He's the guy that always has answers for everything whether they're right or whether they're on. I don't know. I don't know if he's this. This was a red flag for me like he might be sort of scarily close to being at the end of his, tether, and might be it might be. I know that we thought he bought himself a ton of time by beating eventers in the Champions League. I'm sure I'm not so sure he he just seems like he is out of ideas. He seems like he's run out of guys to throw under the bus the players responding to tactics anymore. I just don't know where they can go from now. Lynn guard marshy Al Rach furred Sanchez Lukaku all these players when he needs a goal. He throws Fellini up. Tweet like that's your strategy when the chips are down. You're just going to try and hope it up to fillet. Like, are you serious strategy? That's your Jesus strategy. I mean, that's that's exactly my point. That's a symptom of symptom one a of just having absolutely no idea how to figure it out with this team of of they have Tony talent in he just he's he's he's that guy in a relation. Got because he can't really break up. So he's just gonna act like a total, dick. He's trying to get his parachute. That you break up. What else is he doing? Yeah. He and Woodward's just like, Nope. You're gonna fuck and stand here. These guys you are going to stand right here for the rest of the year. I think the the big problem for United that they pro almost certainly don't have a plan b because is shown time and time again that there completely clueless when it comes to important decision. So yeah, I think that's Neo award. Their nail your not. Arson vigor. No, I will fucking kill myself. Well, let's go to wingers old team. Yeah. Sanchez would love that. Yeah. That would be great if he hasn't gone through although he's going to city suit. Anyway. So it doesn't matter born myth and arsenal. Interesting game fun game actually fun game to watch pluses and minuses for both teams. I would say beating born with is nothing to sneeze at for our snow at you know, at the at the cherry stadium. So it's a good result. It wasn't beautiful any stretch of the imagination. I am refinery figured out. How to use message does ill which is not use them sit on the bench. And you know, I don't know. What do you think that's a strategy that can continue or is this just a now problems problems on the horizon? Now, there's a lot of stuff going on with the club Emory statements on a bunch of players after the game one of them being they had a whole arsenal that whole digital cover. And I urge you to look at it where they had swipe ups and stories and tweets about why didn't we select Medved Ozil? And I think that tells me a couple of things one that was on board with whatever we're trying to do right now to the five in the back was more of a symptom of the leftback. Causing is a fantastic wingback. He's a great wingback. He cannot plan a back for and when he's your only healthy leftback, and you're going away to aside that has very good power. And Ryan Frazier's a hell of a winter. I don't want. I would have died if I saw colossus lined up with Ryan Frazier for ninety minutes like I would have been very very upset with that. So I think that the back five was almost a symptom of coaching directly to the opponent's style, which as an arsenal fan fucking love that I haven't had that New Year's last night. Honestly, the last time I remember at arsenal team being lined up to the reckless combat against an opposing opponent style was on January eighteenth two thousand like it was fifteen and I only was my birthday, they playing Manchester City, and they lined up with Kaku on sent his together for the first time, and they want to know plan just a counter style. So like we rendered never did that an Emory finally took a chance. Coaching directly to an opponent style. So I was happy to see that. Also, Bobby playing central forward love that. I would love more of that. He can just find a goal, right? Like, he's never going to overwhelm you with things, but is moving in the boxes so effective. And he's so good and quick getting those balls that you know, overall. It was a very stressful day. Yeah. Menu three points, three points. And I think you're being fanciful about being on board with this. But I do agree about me up. Top is great means that is not their or unless you can figure out a way to play them together. Which I would think is totally doable. Except I am ready. Doesn't seem to agree with me on that. I don't know if I'm saying that right? But he got a nice assist. I believe on the Obama and golden. Yeah, he did. And the statement from Emory on arsenal on Oziel was that he's not cut out for certain away trips. He's an integral member of the squawk question. His manhood is what he did. Now. He's not physical. He's not physical. He's not fiscal not physical. Are you like it's not like Bournemouth is like this isn't stoke two point. Oh, we're talking about Boardman here. I mean have you seen Simon Francis Francis? Simon. I don't know what whatever you want those. Guys, those guys are, but the I mean born with is not incredibly physical team, and we're coming off of a break international break, and then you got to walk over on Thursday, and your Oprah. I mean this Ukraine about it, by the way, you cranes under martial law. So I hope we send nobody. Well, it'll be interesting to see I think I think the. Not playing could be an issue in the long term. I think. What you can't find a way to play like that. And bobby. That was hurt. Well, was he also? So he was yes. That was that they're both healthy. And I didn't think that I really think that I really really did. I promise you not misleading. But when they said that that wasn't playing. I was like oh shit. Something must be. Okay. So wins away. Wait. I think at the end of the day. You know, I think we should point out that one of the goals was an own-goal for arsenal. And what a goal and was it was also born with got a I believe a perfectly good goal rule off for off side. So. Yeah. It was close after I'm just gonna throw a little ashtros in there. But winds a win on the road. Good for arsenal. So now, also Ryan Fraser. Yeah. I love Ryan Frazier. I could watch him play every single week. I mean born with is fun to watch. He gets the ball. And just pumps those legs drives at no matter who it is. Like a like a Scottish trae ori- type. He plays a similar style. But control. No, he's he plays a lot like trying to think of a comparison. I guess really really poor man's has where it's like the short choppy steps and like just driving from widespread from wide areas, the same style, they're not the same player the same style. The same stuff just picking a diminutive people like him saying, they're all similar based wingers strong based you got a lot of euphemisms for short midfielders. You. I've accumulated quite a few do. So we'll go to watt for Liverpool which we've touched already. So so and ended up being three zero win for Liverpool which. I mean to say that that scoreline flatters Liverpool is a huge understatement. I don't think I've ever closer three zero game. So what for as you mentioned served a penalty in the fifty four or fifty fifth minute. They probably should've gotten it. It was neat. Yeah. I mean, it looked like a looked like a penalty mean there's there's I couldn't tell how hard he actually the defender hit offered player. But it did look like he hit him in the knees about challenging manhood about this John Mazas not within twenty yards of any decision. He's ever made. Marble ord? He's like a little tub large running around out there. Yeah. He he screwed that one up, and we're just not there. He just position. And he got that one wrong. Although you would think that given the angle that the two players were at the linesman should add perfect few of that. So a lot of people screwed that one up. I was so mad didn't give it. So then Liverpool sued after got a go on a double nutmeg from from Sala. And that was you know, it went one nothing and they ended up winning three nothing on two late goals. The scoreline obviously, flattered liberal liberal to to a great great extent here. But again Liverpool just keeps on winning Hebron. Keep it on. I will say a couple of things about them. And then that's it. The four two three one was Shakira involved with that front. Three is a very intelligent signing. I think he is a player that plays with quality when he surrounded by quality. And he's like nothing but dangerous since he got there. He seems to connect to stoke Nola. No doubt. Yeah. I just think that that that front three was so good last year connecting and slowing and play together. And he hasn't hindered that which I think is a big testament to him and his ability to adapt and stuff like that. Also every time I watched Sela anytime he gets remotely close. He scored the ball. So I'm done thinking that that's not going to happen. And then my other Henderson is quite the. I don't understand how he stays on the field. Most days we're only didn't in this one did get a red card near the end. I get that. But like I feel like that wasn't a very atypical performance. I don't think. So at all, I think he always he's like in Fernandina that you know, they pick up a yellow card game. And they sort of told the line on getting a little too aggressive. And both of them are good about knowing where the line is not overstepping. But right. It's it's not hard to accidents. Cook cross that line like you did right goal by Alexander Arnold as well. Yeah. England have an outside back who doesn't know how to hit us up seriously. And him or really, you know. I didn't even know we had it in his bag. I didn't know tribute it either until receipt. So long story short what for is number one a tough team to pin down. But they also are a tough team to play against it seems like they play up to their competition. But they also have tendency to play down. Liberal just keep winning. They do it in a way that doesn't give you confidence that they're going to stick around with city and yet they just keep doing it. So there's good and bad. There depends. If you wanna look at it glass, half, full or. Empty? Last game. We will talk about in depth. I would say is full of Southampton out of nowhere. So big question coming in was whether the tinker man, the new coach was, you know, he's been a miracle worker for LeicesteR whether he was going to work his miracles and fix full defense and the answer. So far is absolutely not because conceding two goals to Southampton. His like conceding two hundred goals to pretty much any. Oh, my God, you're being so made as AMT. Oh, but I'm just being honest. Their offense is like it's anemic is I believe the word I was looking for Lameck Nimick. The medical. I just don't think that he. He did in a way clearly made some changes because Fulham was doing absolutely nothing going forward in their last four or five games. And you know, they looked dangerous up and down the field. We should they. They should just be going for it all the time. Right. It's like arsenal. When I said at the beginning just say fuck defense. Let's just try and go out for people which. Heart attack. I'll have a fucking heart attack. If they do that, the only other thing, I will say is gotta give me tradit-. Alexander means Richardson credit was great. He was the difference. He was honestly the difference in this game. Yeah. I would never call him like a clinical finisher. But. You know, he he put everything away that came to them. And also I like look for chances to praise Metra rich 'cause I'm pretty sure guy that like scours Twitter in his off time in like makes a list of people that he's gonna kill in the summer summer break. You know, having out there mutual. I'm a big fan. You scored some goals love it. This is my first my first little finally feel good about being a huge Ryan Cecil John fan moment in the season. He had a great pass. I will say right before he made that pass. He just completely like dribbled off his knee. And like it just went in the right place. I mean, there was a lot of luck involved up until the pass. But the past itself was really nice. I think it was the first goal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was some. Little blazer. Like, okay. I guess I'll give you credit for that. He was label. This sets an exciting young player coming in. And I don't know whether he's best as a left back left midfielder left winger. Anybody those which there's you know, there's something to be said for the flexibility of being able to play all those. But it's almost like he's not good at any of the right, right? If you got four positions zero positions type of thing. That's that's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah. Well, he's still got that speed which you can't teach. So and he would start at left back for arsenal right now. So that's okay. He might fall. That's why we're looking at it. We weren't anyway. So that was a phone game though, south ham, of course, needs to get their shit together. Scores the first goal, and I immediately think finally here we go. This is going to be a day. And then it it ends not that kind of day after I predicted full of with and I saw south court goal in the first ten minutes off. Doc back so show a little backbone to so fun game. It was interesting game. We'll run through the rest of the game. So Everton card if not much say here good for written for taking care of it. But like one zero over the Bluebirds is not much to aunt home. No less. It's not really much. This is up for this up for most forgettable game of the season of the day or of the weekend for sure of the of the season. I don't know there were there was like that three week period where Southampton we just didn't even their existence. Yeah. I'm not sure those games. I forget exactly they're already white cleaned. So good for the Toffees winds win right in LeicesteR felt like one of those typical long hard slog that Brighton was gonna come away with a one zero win. But then especially well, actually, especially after Lester picked up a stupid Redcar, James Madison. Who's been great this season? I'm big fan of is. I'm not a big fan of his. I like I like his game. Obviously, I'm not a big fan of flopping which is what he got the red card for after being on a yellow. But credit to him. He came out on Instagram, and it was like. Yup. Fucked up. Nobody nobody likes it to see that Baal, Josh. So at least credited for that doesn't make up for the horrible floppy did and all that. But ruled by bright was going to hang on for the draw or for the win. But then late late penalty a legit penalty. They gave up and Vardi scored it. So you know, one one was a fair result. I guess especially if you're going to give up a goal while a man, not a good look. Brighton are still having a quietly having good season the twelve fifteen points. So that's only three by Lester twenty five points to safety. Not far. They will feel like this was two points drop, though up a goal up a man stuff tough to to to go down that you always do the offer the result before the day. What do you say? I still. Yeah. One one probably probably would've take it. I think to one was exactly the prediction. I had no big deal. West Ham city, really nothing to say about this game total annihilation just pray over city plays as they're just too fucking good. I think I called this one exact he might have. I think I said it was like two zero. So yeah, you did say two zero. I said that this thing could be over fast. It will. It was third sonic goal. Was maybe the funniest the hardest. I've laughed at a few weeks when I just was like laughing at them, just ping. It was just like going from winger to hold her ping diagonal to winger like Zion texted me breakers side, texted me, so mad, and I would actually like to read this out loud. If I could. One said, I'm fuming. This is at ten forty in the morning. I'm feeling man city scores the exact same goal every single time caps. And I can't understand our professional football team cannot stop them when they do the exact same thing over and over and over again, he he goes on it infuriates me low cross the wing and goal literally the same every time take out a winger for Christ's sake. Do you think that you can beat Joey Barton twice with the same move? You'll never run again every put the Buddha dear shin. So that is living as Zayas friend at ten o'clock in the morning. I was mad on his phone, and he was talking about Joey Barton, which is just. I was a little hung over. And I'm getting text about Joey Barton, while I'm yelling at John moss. And I I'm enjoying this. This sport being back. Yes. I am. The answer's yes. You take the good with the bad. Yeah. I love his Abbott that that was crazy next up. We got wolves hunter sealed. So hunters field came away the two zero win on the road at wolves. I don't know, man. Was like goalkeepers and like women. I just don't understand what's going on with them. They're like I can't wrap my head around him. They. They just lost it away. It seems like you know, they started the season they were controlling the ball possession. They just look like a real good team. They knew what they were doing there. And they just seem to have just forgotten how to play soccer. I mean, like Huddersfield I believe had more possession than wolves in this game at the Mola new the less. I mean. I don't know what's going on. Goals. I think you and I probably could've talked about this game. Like, can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. How does field? Is more equipped to survive the the length of season like this then wolves I think we got so horned up on wolves at I believe, I was warning people. Like, I believe I was one of the people that were saying this. This is still a promoted side people were like can they finish eighty can they like they're still not as deep and as experienced as a side. That's normally able to stay. Those are the questions whether they're bringing all these Portuguese guys in whether they would be able to hang with the physicality of the you know, what people always say thing is that a lot of Portuguese guys were on the championship team last year him physicality that and that is arguably more physical than the. Well, yeah. But it's not the physicality. It's the speed. It's the it's the week after week of just top sides like. Yeah. And this. A bad sign if they're already having trouble. And this is November normally around the February-March times when teams don't have. They don't have a goal score. They don't have a young that not young. They don't have an experienced goal score. Right. They're like Chelsea only nut nearly as good. They're relying on unproven and very highly rated young players, but that that doesn't usually go well in the Premier League for thirty eight games. They they need to figure out what what the issues are. And pick them up on the other hand, we gotta give credit. It was. It was good game for hunters field. Your boy, the bald Ozzy bulldog. Aaron Moi got both goals so credit credit where Credit's I was just waiting to see if you got there because I don't wanna sound like a beaten jealous. I know how much you love him. The diminutive was the bulldog guy. I fucking love him. So credit to two hundred field for rolling it out and last but not least arguably not least Burnley Newcastle which actually wasn't terrible game on Monday. So credit to Newcastle. That's three straight winds for team. I believe zero coming into that three games. A nice turnaround credit to Rafeh for I don't know pulled his alchemy. They control their own destiny to make Eero lake place. Now, so reluctant Newcastle. Mike Ashley controls that. Not not a good sign for that. But the Joe Hart Twitter. It's just it's crazy. How many goals he's conceding this season without really them being his fault? He's not bad win win at city. He gave up so few goals, and they were all his fault. You know, they're all from catastrophic errors as you know, is reputation got built. Well, this is the karma. It is it's weird. And they got so many wins back then and other getting obviously, no wins at all. Yeah. It's tough burly Burnley is in a tough spot right now, they sort of were worried about this. When they did the euro the quick little Europa Cup of coffee, whether it was gonna ever very they were very easy side to see slipping down to the fourteen tonight teen range, though, there are definitely in trouble. They're gonna have to it's not a it's not a club. That spends a lot of money. So you know, it's up to Sean Daish too. To find rings out. So there we go. That's EPL. We will do quick lap around the world. We will start with Spain. There was one great game Athletico hosting Barcelona which we thought going into this would probably prove whether number one there was going to be a lowly title race. And number two, whether letty will be the, you know, the the favorite to overtake Barcelona this year, I think we proved that there will be a title race this year. I don't think it proved confirmed that athleti is going to be the the number one contender severe might actually be just as just as good if not better. But it was it was a good game. It was interesting game. One one draw. It looked like it was gonna be the typical one zero Diego Simione strangling the shit out of the game type thing, and then Barcelona got sort of a lucky goal dim ballet got a goal that hit about fifteen people before going. But you know. Barcelona came away withdraw which is tough going down and letty. It's it's not easy to a lot of teams. Do not get that that equaliser so credit them severe want. And so actually severe is now in first place in Lalita, which it should be a great great title rice looks like which is great more than we can say for for England at the moment. Although hopefully Liverpool stick around for a little while. Big big story, though. I think maybe even bigger than let it go and Barcelona's rail Madrid who cut their asses handed to them. What is going on by mighty Eibar Saturday morning. What is going on there? I mean, if so they won these games under Salah after Laurie took over but quietly they were giving up like fifteen shots the game. Even in those games that they were winning. So maybe he was just, you know, this is just sort of hypothesizing if you will. But like maybe just sorta got some good bounces in those games and got the winds because there he is not fixed their problem before you give up three goals to bar. That's a problem. You score zero goals-against. That's a problem. Benjamin Dale, we're both terrible in this game. I don't understand how this team is gonna like. I mean, it's got to be his art, right? Well, there's there's a lot of smoke there. Whether there's fire we'll see there's and has our is not he's not throwing cold water. The rumors. Leave Chelsea at some point. Okay. My big takeaway from this weekend is that as much as hyped up Italy as being one of the most fun revival leaks. Spain is a lot deeper than they've been in recent memory. Yeah. And maybe that's because of the big to coming back to the pack a little bit more. So than the other. Yeah. I can see that. And also Athletico was able to hold onto players like grease Mon and that doesn't happen saying Germany. You don't hold that. You don't hold that guy. Yeah. So the the ability of Simion athletic co two. Not have that flash Monaco season in fall back. They've now strung together for close to a decade. Coverage is a rich and Stoorikhel club. And to see guys stay there just helps the league general. So I'm happy to see Spain. Where this. Yeah. I don't think about sticking around after this year. I'm guessing that you wear. Yeah. But you know, two years ago, he was sort of you know. Dancing around it this summer. I think he was one and a half feet out the door, and he got convinced to sick around. I think he's going to be going after the season, but it is great for this season. And you're right. The league title race should be a lot of fun and let it go is better tonight than Madrid. And this showed that they can't beat Barcelona easily could have come away with that prototypical one zero Diego Simione. Win Germany buyers. We it's like the feel like deja over again, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here and continue to get my same defensive buyer Munich. You you are you not are you there? Basically just keep doing this to you where you say they're going to win him you. So you can come out in tie for to something called for Tuta three two three. Yeah. I mean, it was a lot of fun to watch. But like unless you're fired pin? Of course, you know, another round of rumor, I blame the co vetches security job security after that blame the kids. They're not pretty, but neither was that. Neither was that performance. And this was an home. They gave up three goals to something called for two at home. Okay. Here's my winning campaigns. Like, of course, here's my one word justification for this result. There is not. That's good because I was gonna say whatever, you're smoking. Let me get some of that Byron's in trouble. A great one. And like I said before they're just aging. That's that's a good explanation. They got a new coach. They have not done a good job of recycling youth and talent and. They're in trouble. Aside with. Boating, and Soula and Oliva and chemic- and Noyer and these intelligence smart defensive players can be giving this many goals up. Three goals. It's it's. It's fucking for to Duesseldorf reduce for two. What do you have to say JR. Walk in and say, you're fucking Byron Munich like she's clean it up. Yeah. You'd think that kovic would scare the scare something new. I dunno. I think that they need to hire new warn up. You are really are you like meal works agent. Now, I've never heard anybody. What is the game more than you? I get I get fifty dollars every time. Somebody mentioned Neil Warnock on a barstool propriety. There you go. You're three hundred dollars up right now. Just for today. So Byron's trouble on the other hand doorman wasn't pretty, but they gotta done against minds. The only really thing the reason I bring that up really is just to say Pocatello alka Seir is continues to be fucking unreal. The guy doesn't start and yet. He so when he gets in the game he scores like a goal ten minutes. I think I just did the math if he played ninety minutes all season he would have almost four hundred goals right now. Wait. Why aren't they playing him on ninety that? Now. Now. I mean, if it if it works, I guess you just keep us. Slam on ninety and your win every game. Her second minute. You gotta bring him in the second. Don't wait for the seventieth. Bring him in the second. It's like an ultimate team. When you when you're players have good chemistry. But then the minute the game start yourself a man because then it doesn't matter. Anyway, bring the guy in two minutes. Falco alka. They're the guys just on fire. You know, what you know what he's the exact player team. I parcel owner really needs. I mean shit. What team doesn't need about Sarah? And how. Let a guy that is clearly this talented, and he just signed another like the Jillian year contract. They're like maybe just an extra motivated coming out. You know, coming out of Barcelona like that people forget he was in a massive goal drought with Barcelona. Massive like historic goal drought. Just saving them up. He apparently has all of the right now and definitive is like. Like like member we were talking about the win against against Byron. When he like made he he stared Noyer in the face. And he was like you're gonna flinch first down. Yeah. Like he is. So unbelievably confident right now like he gets anywhere in there. And he's like, yeah. That's exactly I need to put this to go on the net. Like, he. No aegis feels the game. So well right now. I mean, he gets twenty twenty minutes game in scores. Two goals a game. So yeah, it's it's like it's like he's the Jamal Crawford of the Buddhist Lita Jamal Crawford. Wow. A throwback Maruti's playing Michigan. Guys, still wear the headband. Know what that's weird. So italy. Let's Malone best game in the weekend. I'll call interesting game wasn't wasn't highest quality. But Milan finally opened the scoring seventy th minute own-goal and lots yo push forward and got an equaliser in the ninety four th minute. So, you know, pretty exciting game. Yeah. But and yet they're still up there. So it's an improvement from pass seasons. It's a good side. It's not a bad sack. Really do like that team structure MLS there's two games with semifinals or the conference finals. I guess you call them or we could just call him the the championship in the third place game. You want to term it. So Atlanta spank the shit outta red bulls three zero and the big question. Everybody was asking whether Armas fucked up because he can you know, red bulls have been a pressing team all season and they've beaten expectations left and right. They won the supporter shield over Atlanta. The team that everybody thought was a better team in them. And yet the enormous comes out and red bulls, basically, sit back and try and keep the SUV. Anyway, just try and keep the score close. Go back home and win it there. And they just got pummeled Atlanta played a great game three zero. That's just it sucks. For red bull fans. They've seen this movie before they win the sport or shield every other year. And then of course, they come up short in the playoffs. It sucks. I remember. So Kemar Lawrence was on the podcast couple of weeks ago. And you could tell from from everything he was saying how much more important MLS Cup was versus support shield. He's I guess we're shows. Nice. But like. I can't I was going to do Jamaican accent. I can't do Jamaican exit. It was just so much more important you can tell and yet here they are again up shit creek three goals down everything everything going against them. And back home for Thursday's game. Now, the good spot to be three nil is probably the worst. I let goal or result you could possibly have lightly worse than than two zero and better than four zero. I would argue no four zero as far Celona. The the Joseph Martinez celebration of putting a blunt out that was hysterical. Love that. And the only takeaway for may from this game is just how amazing how lucky we are to have land as soccer city. Yeah. Oh, cool there pre-game Tif or whatever it was. It was pretty awesome. They are so cool like that environment is special truly special. And it seems as the expands these new areas have these kinda fan bases built in. I hope we identify right. Get more like Atlantic this city. I didn't know how much land United needed to existed my life until these last couple of years. Yes. Cincinnati's on the horizon, and they send into they seem like they had their shit together as well. So they'll be a good addition as well. But I think that Lanta also deserve credit. They've put a lot of legwork in. They put Marchetti, Mike. And they've obviously, you know, this is from soccer, which is they've obviously made some smart moves on the. Talent identification as well. So they've just done it. Right. And they're good spot to win MLS Cup. So it all. Blows my mind it blows my mind. They don't fall through and win this thing. It'll be huge disappointment huge disappointment. I mean, almost as big a disappointment is like, you know, rebels not winning it yet again now worse than no actually their expectations, especially now, especially three zero you have to finish. I think what it would actually will be interesting is that rebels have one choice now in the in the second leg S to go after it. So that second leg could be interesting. The it'll either be this is going to get like really interesting and really exciting or really out of control like the first fifteen or twenty minutes of that game. So that that that'll be a game worth watching on Thursday. The second leg, I would say I would say. I would like to make a prediction gambling that this game will. End in a draw. Low-scoring high-scoring to to. I think the mid-atlantic gets one. It's going to be like fuck. And then they're going to like, I think I think red bull makes his interesting for about fifteen minutes. I think there's an early goal and you're like, wait a second and then Marrone, just ripped your heart. Outer Martinez one of those two those two I mean, you'd have to pay twenty five million to get the Param. Might. They got they got a lot going on there. If you ask any MLS players played against the gal on what they think of him. And we've done it. I mean, these guys are like, oh, no this guy's chance. Like this. This is he's one of the most incredible players that ever played him less. I mean, there could be some big. So you see the rumor about Zach seven getting bought by city for ten million or something like that. Yeah. So like there could be some big sales from MOS code with Martinez and Elmer own and Martinez is going to go. He's square. Scorer. He scoring in Papua Alkaser rate. Well, you know, scores you cannot put you can't put a price on that. If you get a somebody who can score goals, and they're informed. Somebody's gonna by January. There's no question about it. No question about it. And I hope it somebody. We like. West ham. Out. Over it'd be sweet tea three. He's just looks like he looks so unhappy and miserable. He looked just looks like he wants to be at L AFC like already. It would be like, you know, LA environment. I'm sick of this English. You know, whether shit sporting Kansas City in Portland, there's really nothing to say. Well, this game is prototypical first leg, you know, both teams cagey as they you know, neither one of them wanted to give up a goal. I think maybe post was hit maybe two posts. But really there was not much not much going on in this game. So everything to play for the plus side back in Kansas City in the second. Yeah. Place in a very good result for Kansas City in Portland. Yeah. I don't think they'll be unhappy with that. I don't know if old either to be honest, all yeah. Exactly. So there's there's LS four you let's run through Champions League. We have Champions League coming up. This up sewed Champions League is back after coming off the international break now having like Champions League in her life. It's just like a a real one eighty there. Not getting late. It's like not getting laid for like a year. And then all of a sudden Nevin the hottest streakier life for two weeks. It's like you. And as soon as you start having sex again right lesson. I don't know that L Erica. About with that that crop duster on your on your lip. This is actually shaved it. So this is just a residue. I think I think it's just permanently the color of my upper lip now. So we get so just to give you the quick let's let's do a little rundown where we're at with fruit Champions League right now. So we're six games in to the group stage. We of two more or way, though, four games, and we have two more games to go. The only team strangely enough to qualify so far for the knockouts Barcelona. So there's only one team officially qualified. That means fifteen slots are still up for grabs with two games to play. So let's run through the eight groups real quick and give you the sort of status update of the groups a group, a almost Donen dusted dormant athletic or almost through essentially at this point groupie Barcelona's through as we said inter in Tottenham or fighting it out for second and third are they? With listen, buddy. And that was any other team be what has said it was through. No, no, no, no. Because there's another there's another situation. It's very similar to it. Then I'll get to it. And third is you know, AK third place being the proletariat parachute. To the Europe relief. Nobody wants so droop. See is the most competitive, and the most exciting group of the mall pretty much strangely. Strangest say at this point, but all four teams ever chance to go through. But Napoli and Liverpool six points. PS G is on five points and shockingly enough Redstar is unfair points given their win over Liverpool that nobody can really explain a couple of weeks ago. So liberal would have been speaking easy liberal would have been on easy street had they just won that game. Now, they're they're real dogfight. So what could could've shoulda. Group d portfolio and shocker running away with it group e Champions League barred which should not be confused with their stepbrother Bundesliga buyer. Looking real good along with I IX. Both teams are sitting pretty in group e f city are on the verge of clinching Leone. So this is another situation just like group B so Leone are in pole position second place, but Hoffa Gnheim are not dead yet. And they have games against shocked. Our city city being the last game where they will have already clinched. So I think often Heim is still that's exact same situation as Todd him because has Barscelona in their last game in Barcelona will of clinched. In fact, they already did. So oftentimes Leone both we've mentioned this before in our soccer nerd segments. Both teams have been a lot of fun to watch. And should be interesting to see coming down the stretch. How that goes in group f in groups group G rail Madrid and were handed golden tickets to the DACA, what's by UEFA Lona at at the top by by getting this group that was just embarrass. Passing -ly week and the group H you've as our nine points looking good United's on seven points. Both are in pretty good spot. But Valencia is nipping at United's heels at the moment right behind him. So they some of these groups are basically done like group as done group dis almost done group. Jeez almost done. But then there's then there's other groups that have allowed to play for. So what we're going to try to do with this preview is we're going to focus more on the games that actually matter in the groups that are still competitive rather than going through them all in boring everybody to tears, so we're going to skip over for the most part games like Roma hosting around Madrid. Even though it's it's an inter- entertaining game. It should be. Anyway, it's interesting game. Especially since both. These teams have sort of been foundering in the domestically. So they both have reasons to play and reasons to to come out strong. But it's not that interesting in the Champions League cents because both them are sitting pretty. The group. So we're going to focus on the ones that are more competitive. So Tuesday will start with Leone hosting city. I guess you wanna just sort of throw one or two things at each other that we think are important sitting might not control the pace of play in this game. They didn't the first time. Right. So I think you if you want to see city at their most vulnerable if you wanna see city outside of the Premier League and watch a team as talented as graceful as them get actually pushed by competitive international side. This is a must watch it. Yeah. And it's it's it's a sneaky. Yeah. It's a sneaky, entertaining and probably competitive game. Yeah. As you know, the Frenchies snuck up on us up on city snuck up on everybody in the first leg when they beat city in Manchester. No, less grass. And now they have to go there with that chip on their shoulder, and they have a point to prove. Yup. So Leo and Leland's a lot of fun. You know, cities a lot of fun to watch just because they're so goddamn good leones phone because they're just so young naive. They just don't know any better. They're just getting, you know, throw the kitchen sink at city so much money. There's so much money on that field. He had the on side money to be made. I was gonna say money to unrealized unrealized money. Other side is all spend money. Right. If there's I'm gonna I'm gonna go with so I'm not gonna say cities like a, you know of total lack in this game. I mean, obviously coming off that I like Leone's show that they have they could be like the Liverpool of this season where they sort of the antidote to cities quality, but saw sort of on the fence until I heard this this came across this video on Instagram, which I'm gonna play you real quick. Let's see. Did you see do you? Do you know this is now? This is a rap by Memphis defy that just came out. Now, he's like, wrapping. I wish I wish you could see the video of this. He's got like a big old Segard as the as the Eiffel tower right by. And he has like this cowboy jacket on its. Memphis deploy. Dr dre. Okay. I'm done with that. I saw this rap video from from visit by when I was trying I came across it just what I was trying to decide who who in this game all in on city. Now, let's no way that. That. There's no way Leo's wooded this game. I think if nobody rapper puns with his name right now. Memphis, DP forty. I don't I don't know how I'm going to have to go take the Twitter later. But my God, Dr drags self. This makes me even more convinced and my initial assertion that medicine I was going to end up having exact career trajectory of Ricardo harassment. Yeah. Yeah. There you go bad. The same guy. Yeah. I rap songs and he just dropped. Lapped right now. Oh, did it. Did it really? I have to run it through jetski page views rise, or whatever it was like on the same level as that. I feel like God. What did we do it, buddy? I. Yeah. So I'm going with city based on that alone. Go said, okay. I'm gonna go with Memphis by this one. I'd say, but I will say that Leo definitely up a shot fun. And I hope they come out to that. And also, the two games in the group of you by United believes group, H I could be wrong that I know we just talked about it. So I should be able to yet. So it's group H so you've host Valencia event would do a huge favor for United by winning this game. I think they probably will too. There's there. I mean, you Bay's good form Roddy score goals left at right, or at least left of. I think. Letsie hasn't been that great in in low IGA, they played okay in Champions League, obviously. But I think you've as a at home there's going to be a there's gonna have to quality for Valencia. I believe I was saying that United should drop down a third to try to win you're up up. But at this point. I it's probably too late. If you've I win that game it might be United. Because United plays young boys. So they're just there's no reason why United should win this game or lose this case. Sorry. I should lose this game. I mean, there's just none. They've way too much quality. Young boys is not good this year. Right. The only question is whether their head is just too fucked up whether to fucked up in the head right now to win this game with felony and just kick it long every single time from the first minute say fuck it. I would honestly enjoy that game so much. I would just laugh the whole time. I mean, it's not the worst. If you got Lukaku, you know, boxing, guys out and full eighty looking for him. It's not like it's the worst Strachey in the world. That's right. But you have all these, you know, talent that you've rash for you. Got more Seattle, you got Pogue wind, and that's your strategy doesn't work. You don't have a strike. And we talk about Lukaku all the time. His finishing anti clinical anti clinical as they come. Why still think United win this? Who would you rather have your team Lukaku Virata? Cheese. Look. Okay. He does things off the ball that Murata doesn't. You could basically say that they're finishing a wash. When you said off the ball. I did it. I did picture that goal for Belgium when he'd made all those rods bell those dummies without ever even touched on the ball. Yeah. That was a really good call. So I'll give you that point Sam. Yeah. Obviously, you're your most effective when he's not touching the ball at correct? You are correct. It's a it's a little like the Gerard. You know, look painting every week. Good scoring. He did score a goal. Good for him rate goal. Greg of a header those the one thing he can do best in the league from that area. Yeah. Do you think United don't win this game? Or okay. Yeah. It's not going to be pretty, but it'll be win. Wednesday. Let's move to Wednesday with the better games are so PS g hosting Liverpool. Definitely the biggest. Probably the biggest definitely the sexiest game of the match day. The so PS g come in well rested. So they said Imbaba they set neymar over the weekend that may have been because they were both injured. So, you know, they're hoping that they're they're ready to go for this game. If they're not that's going to be a problem. Big problem. Since they are, you know, they had they had trouble with Liverpool last time with all their players Liverpool continued to struggle on the road, though. And that that watt for came certainly didn't exactly do anything to give you a lot of confidence about Liverpool's road form. I know it's three zero. But that was as we talked about, the the, you know. Closest three zero cable you'll ever see these lap cider. I should say anyway. So I don't know I'm leading towards PSG this one. I want to go with Liverpool because I think they have the better defender. Maybe the best defender in the in the world. So I'll give you that. I will say that. These teams feds are washed for me matter who's playing. I just think Liverpool is not up to the quality that top-quality guys, but they're deeper side, and then the midfield, obviously, it's to be just a bloodbath because of the size and strength of the players there. So I just go the back lives who's back. Why would I rather have? I'd rather have Liverpool's. I still think PS. You know? Liverpool on the road and PS g with Cavani neymar. I know they hate each other. But with them both there. Fight last week. Would they sort it? What he threw the ball out of after mar by the way, nutmeg the hell out of people are mad about that play. It was in the Uruguay Brazil game. That's what you're talking about. Right. Yeah. We're we're neymar did a pretty nasty little nut Meghan karate. And then of course, rolled around like he just been posted the face, but he did foul Cavani did follow neymar at it should have been. It was a call. It was called as a follow as rightly but on Instagram. I put the highlight up there and everybody was like, oh, not even falls foul. So neymars reputations. Clearly proceed to in that respect. But they're the Cavani grab the ball. Like sort of threw it out of and like any tried to help he wouldn't get up. And it was just a whole. I don't like genders. All of this. I just don't like you to. It's awesome. Mazing it can't last long term. But photo airs, it's so much fun. So you leave Liverpool. I lead PS G. And that next week got ton of inner which is almost as big. It's nowhere near a sexy. Is as Liverpool NPS g but it's just as big in the sense that you know, this this make or break for especially for Todd him in this game loss in this game. And see well Champions League season is completely over. Even a draw. I think we may be eliminated. If not little illuminated, we're really on life support. I think draw were mathematically not eliminated. But this this game will finally answer the questions that historians of arguing about for years. Boy. Would the fifth place team in Italy beat the fifth place team in England. Ballsy ballsy thing say, no, you're you're you're getting me riled up ahead of the Northland this weekend. Which I appreciate respect. It is funny coming from the fifth team to the third place team at the moment. S-class is not always a reflection of form. Okay. Okay. I've been saying. Got it backwards. I think it's four always isn't a reflection of classes that what it is. You're you're talking way above my pay grade. Well, this should be good game. Spurs company off we've as we talked about the best performance. They've had a long time. Inter has not looked. Well, they've looked okay domestically. They've won some games and won some games going away. They haven't looked great though when they've come up against good competition. And I would say I would argue the Spurs are good competition. We'll see we'll see who the defense is for Spurs because if fourth is out there, I will be nervous as shit, hopefully, hopefully, Toby yon tongue it or ready to go or maybe even Sanchez. How do you feel about team selection in this game knowing that it's a stretch to get three points and being wedged between two hundred are yet? It's tough with Chelsea inter in arsenal week. Really do you wish that I came alley weren't starting all those? I think they have to I think they have to start. I I've I've I've of the pinion that too much emphasis is put on sitting guys for really big games in small stretches of time. I get it. If it's over the course of say a month or two when you're like repeatedly playing like weekend mid week with meek it weakened. I can't say we can mid week weekend mid week, you know, doing that over and over and over and over if it's if it's a one week stretch like this, especially coming off of international break where they got. They got some they got some time off. I think I think it's a good time. If there is ever a good time to play like a stretch with Chelsea inter an arsenal. This is probably it. So I'm not too terribly. Concern. I mean, obviously at forever not have to play these three teams a row. But as it is I've okay with it. I think that you know, guys that are delis age and canes age they can handle it. They should be able to handle it. So. Yeah. I'm talk. I guess I've talked myself into it. No, it really helps canes been healthier to shut up. As you said, at least, he was, you know, at least he did his business this weekend. Timid Lewis enough to get a goal. Definitely God that guy was so bad. I got so many tweets from Chelsea fans about him at rightly so he was just so bad the famous, quote, he's like a child got a hold of controller. If he I don't know why sorry keeps. I guess we'll we're off topic. But that's whatever he's so bad. At least at least when he goes into tackles. He just like gets out of the way of everything whereas like fourth like goes in and just tries to clean everybody out this coming this company. Sunday is going to be a battled between who can fuck up the most Foyt former staffy, I mean my. I mean, my you weren't going to be stuck with staffy. My hope is that fourth is not out there. That's what she your squad. I'm just like crossing my fingers like we have all these choices, you know, the tongue is back in training. So hopefully, he'll be ready. Toby is apparently healthy. You never know. Sanchez may be ready at all, but you can even play dire back there one year ago to this game is when Mustafay scored that goal and played fantastic on them. And now, I don't even wanna see him anywhere near the club. We'll get we'll get to the north London pre previous suited off. So you think Tatham or inter who you got in this game? I think it's going to be tough for him to get anything more than a point just based on the tough schedule and endures ability to just like they wanna Cardi flash. You know, how he can score those flashes. Yes, I know all about that. That is just done. Like, he's got a rep your heart out hate to say it to you. I think that I think we would have a difficult time winning all three of these games. So I wouldn't be surprised if we win one and lose one against inter arsenal. Oh, that's that's me DO taking my bias. I'm just being unbiased with that. I do think that Spurs win this game though. I think at homes, quote, unquote, at home, we could we could run out of steam for the north London Darby, we could we could be, you know, a little off the pace by then I think we're still going to be okay for this game. And they look so good against Chelsea with all those offensive players. So I'm gonna go with Spurs. This one close one won't be it won't be, you know, three one asking like it wasn't as Chelsea. But I I like Spurs to win this game. Okay. And I don't think it'd be asking like it was what messy came to town. So it'll be a good game. That's right. I mean that was an has kick the score was like almost the draw. You know, sometimes before. Match scorelines you almost quote. I actually veered off of it. Other Gable mentioned just because you know, Redstar they've put themselves in the conversation. So at least have to mention it. So Napoli is hosting Redstar on Wednesday red stars barge their way into the discussion by beating Liverpool credit to them. So let's just give them a little credit say that they're close with. I don't think there's any way they stick with that laughing Napoli spank some this one. I can't believe they have four point. Yes. In this group. I mean, this group is tough. So I credit. This must be how teams internationally feel during while cups when America gets out with four points. Yeah. Probably they're like how fuck. Who the fuck is that? Well to credits star. So that's it unless red star the other games, you are unless you wanna listed the Memphis pyro up again, I think that's all we got at the moment. I think we should use that as the Trump is. Evan get it in there. So there we go. So that's it guys. Thanks for joining us again. We'll be back on Friday with a fun weekend. Preview of a rather big game or two maybe some surprises up our babies some surprise, we're working on. So thanks for to date. And we will we'll talk to you on Friday. Take care guys. Yeah. But million. Eight. Talk. Bye. Bye. Ford game is complying. Only when I. So noon. Stay home about them next. You don't wanna see flex? Fine. Mim lavish Beckley. Seven four hundred.

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Farhan Zaidi on the Giants So Far

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Farhan Zaidi on the Giants So Far

"Does the anticipation of another desk lunch of baby carrots and ranch dressing. Keep you up at night. Here's a cure extra spicy and New San Francisco Chronicle podcast by me Soleil how? Justin Phillips, you can subscribe to extra spicy now on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi Everyone I'm John Shea of the San Francisco, Chronicle and thanks for joining us on the podcast. Our guest is far Han Zaidi. The giants President of baseball operations and he shares in our wide ranging discussion his thoughts on manager Gabe Kaplan will touch on the dodgers series the fast starts by Mike Disrupt Ski and Donovan Solano the slow starts by one hundred pence and Pablo Sandoval and what's up with Joey. Bar. Enjoy. Well, thanks for joining me for Honda. Days. They didn't well, thank you wanted to ask first of all your impression so far I, mean the offense has been impressive in in many ways including the ability to come back from early deficits never a good thing but the rotation wasn't all that efficient early on you know, and then lately with Cueto in Guzman in La, very promising the defense has has been down obviously leading the majors, Nares and There are some fundamental issues but you know there's been good in bad and as we sit here, the giants are seven and tents just wanted to ask early impressions or we're at the quarter or at the quarter-point. So it's not that early I guess. But so yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. It's it's been a mixed bag. There's been things we've been really encouraged by certainly like you mentioned the offense, the offense overall but also the resiliency of the offense to come back in in certain scenarios obviously Solano has. Done an amazing job Put Up. Use numbers and gun lot of big. It's for us You know defensively look, we're not a team that has a ton of teams speed. We're not GONNA have a ton of range in the field but I think. An aspect of defense that's been. A little disappointing and has shown up in some Big Times in certain games is you know some of the fundamentals you look up on Donna Roster we've got a lot of really sound veteran defenders who you know will make plays consistency consistently in the field and You know unfortunately, you know in a couple of spots the defense has been noth- a little bit and you know to your point on the pitching staff the rotation is really coming together Guzman's starting in L. A. Like. Invention was phenomenal and Johnny really battled in and did a great job keeping that offense off downs, and again you know those would be impressed start against any team but you know lineup like added particularly impressive in obviously, Logan webs done a really nice job for us, and as those guys Kinda get stretched out more and you know we're able to build up their pitch counts I, see them taking on more a load which I think will. Help alleviate a little bit of what the bullpens. Done and had to do so far. This year we've got a younger bullpen and I think we need to get a position where we can protect them a little bit and so we're we're clearly moving in that direction and there's a lot of positive sides on the pitching staff as well. You mentioned Mike Aski- Donovan. Solano. Wow I mean too bad. There's no all star game for these guys this year they've been on fire yet yeahs earning the everyday status after proving himself last year including reverse splits and all his defense anywhere album. So Lonzo pretty much his way into the everyday role this year I mean. What would you say about them in particular and who gets the credit for fighting these guys? Obviously, you dealt for it. Stransky brought in a lot of but I mean, there's there's a larger crew involved too right. Yeah I mean I would say that the credit goes to these players because you know were sort of in a situation where you know pretty much any organization baseball probably could've acquired them and You know the fact that they you know took on the challenge ahead of them and if both improved in really measurable ways I I really think the credit goes to these guys and you know not only are they doing a great job carrying the offense but They're they're kind of an example of I think the way we want our team roster to operate, which is it's sort of a meritocracy I mean these guys. have. Pedigree but you know they they earned a spot on the roster You know we actually. Platoon yes. Last year's heart is that is to believe in certainly Solano started Austin platoon role but they both demonstrated that You know when you make the most of your opportunities, there's a chance for that role to grow. So I think those guys are you know grey models is go through the season and other guys get opportunities that you know you can expand your role and get more of an opportunity if you're able to take advantage of the opportunity that. Will the optics didn't look all that great. Over the weekend you could have beaten the dodgers two of three least. but just wanted to ask about Gabe Kaplan. Okay. First Year in San Francisco two years in Philly. He's replacing the legend obviously botchy hall of fame but the pitching moves over the weekend if I may Friday Marga. Through four you gave up to three homers and then went back out there hit got hit a hit a couple of guys walked a guy then came out and went on the injured list the day with the shoulder in a cueto the next stay five Hitless, and then all of a false behind hundred pants I hit, and then we found out later was told lister that was bothering him but still he was in to face Turner who it's three run homer giants win but. Great Relief The Sunday Guzman Electric stuff eighty pitches. One battery under the seventy comes out. stuff was still eric seend rogers came in second straight day after a great two inning Saturday in policy face two straight days at the home run and. Giants lose but you know and also the mound visit mistake which he owned up to as metal screw up but. Your observations especially with fans maybe not too happy with some of the moves. Through the first. Couple of. Weeks. Right I. I I think that's a fair description of what happened over the weekend and I think it Kinda demonstrates that a is under the microscope a little bit and look let's face it. You you know when when you? Make a pinch have moved. You know even the best hitter in the world is going to make an out sixty, sixty, five percent of the time and does that mean that you were wrong to make the move you know that Sh- that I think you know remains a question on the pitching side when when you take a picture out a reliever comes in and you know gives up the big homer or gives up based runners. You know it's hard to know what the pitcher that was in the game would have done. It's hard to know how the rest of the game would have unfolded but you know I I think games under a little. Bit of a microscope because of some of what you do in Philadelphia and also the fact that this is a roster that is going to have to be managed pretty actively a we've got You know on the position player side we've got some platoons have actually been productive for us and you know like we talked about with Salon. Yes. Guys have the opportunity to earn more playing time, but the platoons have have worked well for us in in a Lotta cases in on the pitching side certainly early in the year, there's more of a burden on the bullpen like we talked about I think that's going to be eased going forward but You know some of that has resulted in going to the bullpen. I. Think before. You would necessarily want to do it in a perfect world and and Kinda just talk about each of the three scenarios over the weekend and with sharp we had no indication of any kind of injury shoulder related wise going into that game and obviously he didn't. have his best stuff. He was Kinda fighting his way through it. I know that gave an shark have had conversations about shark wining the ball and wine to go deep into games, and frankly in that situation you know I know that crew talked about it on the broadcast like at some point you're in the first game of a three-game series against the the dodgers you've gotta go to Houston play three more after that against tough lineup and Whoever your starter isn't that first game even if he falls behind, he's probably got eat up outs in. And Save the bullpen a little bit. So I think that was the thought process on shark. Kwena One you know frankly I think it was a tough call because you know. In a Lotta ways Cueto still had a no hitter when he gave up that. to Turner and certainly pits the Bellenger carefully in walking him but he had just gotten you know mookie Betts out that in a big out there. So you know I think that was another case of a veteran guy who has had conversations with manager about wind the ball wanting to get through innings and the big out and ultimately it still judgment call and you leave a guy in an e gives up a homer and you're going to be a judge for that. That's that's the gig of being major. League manager and then yesterday with Guzman you know I think that was As much as anything just a vote of confidence in the bullpen recognizing the job that Rogers had done the day before and I I know people will make the point while they'd seen him a lot submarine Guy by you know, he was also one pitch away from. Getting out of that any, and if that last purple had had a little more break on it, probably not having this conversation but Big, takeaway is you know Guzman over the last two starts has shown really impressive start the stuff the stuff we saw from yesterday I think as well as he's throwing the ball careered. So I think that'll certainly earn him You know more rope the chance to go deeper into games going forward. Obviously. You Be Kershaw on Saturday slater to home runs yeahs hit one rare by left me. But I guess it goes without saying you totally support gave Kappler stand by him You're all in him be and the guide of bring the giants into the new era. Yeah absolutely, and you know as we've discussed we you know we have a roster. That's GONNA. You know require some active management and that puts the manager under the microscope I. Mean you look at some of the wins that we've had this year and he's done a great job navigating You know some late any situations and really helped winsome some games for us and you. Know sometimes you get your hand caught in the cookie jar that's what happens when you go to the bullpen. So you know I think the big thing John as we year is were seven ten week easily won one or two more games. If not more feel like we should have a better record than than we do and I think that's an indication of our optimism going forward but. As Bill parcells quote goes you know you are what you your record says you are right for seven and ten. So we have worked. Yes. Not hundred pants. Pablo. Sandoval five titles between them. Teen leaders very likeable people among teammates among fans I'm sure management but You know you're trying to get younger guys playing time how long of a leash might these two folks have going forward because they're batting averages not? Indicative of their career marks. Yeah. For sure I mean it's a tough one in in a suit shortened season like this where you know these guys have thirty at bats but like you said, were past the quarter mark of the season. So how do you balance those two things and I think you're seeing some adjustments as the season goes on you know Wilmer Flores was a guy who initially leave. You'd maybe playing a little bit more. Against Left handed pitching has done a nice job and. His role is expanded in You know he's going to be there more against righties. and other guys who are struggling maybe their roles get reduced a little bit as as a result I mean to your point those guys are great in the Clubhouse I think we're we're still seeing signs of them. You Know Pablo had a couple of good bath yesterday worked. Hunter you know had a nice single the right field in the game on Saturday. So you know we're seeing some positives but to your point, you know it's it's getting relatively deep into the season and at some point. Cap The hitting group you know and the entire coaching staff is GONNA feel like we've of got to go with a hot hands. Okay who speak in a positive you pulled up to recent raids. Sunday with the White, sox. Lewis Day who's and outfielder of many. Talents number eleven prospects with with with them, and it said that you know he might be among the top twenty with you. Good defender Speed Power big home run in the futures game of one, hundred mile per hour pitcher, and that's in the wake of another trade. When you sent Billy Hamilton for the mets for the pitcher Jordan Humphreys I mean these are possible impact guys at the future, right? I mean these are the the fan base has been was pretty impressed I. Think with these two trades could you speak of them? Yeah. I I think. You. Know we we we've talked about it. I mean we are in a position where especially with short season with sixteen teams making the playoffs we really want to keep our eye on the president into your point. You know we've got guys like Pablo and Hunter Grahn one year deals in. They're just here to help us win games right now there's. No you know it it's all about the president with them. But at the same time, we have to keep a you know our eyes open for opportunities that that may develop to acquire guys like humphries in embassies, and frankly some of that is just coming from the roster constraints. The teams are facing trying to get through this season with forty man roster. We've had a lot of injuries you dealing with sixty men player pool as opposed to just having you know you know dozens of players available in the minor leagues. So I think that's creating some options which we're going to keep our eyes open or and You know hopefully, these guys can help us in a future. PASAMBA in particular as A. Guy Who's been a top hundred prospect that are really good season in two, thousand, eighteen, thousand injuries, last year, and the white sox credit. They've done an amazing job developing young outfield talent Lewis. Robert. Some of the other guys that they have and that made a expendable narrow organization whereas you know he could get a real opportunity with so certainly excited him. You're listening to Farhan Zaidi giant splash. After this quick break I'll ask about Joey Barton stay tuned. Does the anticipation of another desk lunch of baby carrots and ranch dressing keep you up at night. Here's a cure extra spicy and New San Francisco Chronicle podcast by me. So Leho, the Justin Phillips look I thought I. was going to have to go defend ranch wholeheartedly right now but. I see what's happening I'll I'll leave it for next time. You'll hear that and more slander every week subscribe to extra spicy now on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. We couldn't have a podcast without a joy bar question. And I understand Joey and Patrick Bailey are just catching Sacramento but also played some first base house up going and is it because Posey's coming back next year and this is a way to get one or both of those in the lineup next year. Right I it's it's You know the certainly a lot of factors at play and You know the first and foremost thing just focusing on Joey is just his development and making sure that we push the button He's ready and I've spoken about this. Some publicly look at guys like. Mogi Bats and Mike. Trout and those guys had five, six hundred at bats in AA. AAA you know I think back to when I was in la you know some of the. you know call up decisions that we face with guys like cory seager and cody bellinger. Those guys had six, seven hundred at bats it at the Dublin AAA level before we call them up, and at that point, we were wondering whether it was the right time. It's not joey's fault I. Mean he battled injuries last year in unfortunate lead with what we're facing this year you know I still view him getting important wraps because he's facing. Good kitching in Sacramento. Guys like Derek Gee Angie Suarez. Those guys were with the taxi squad right now but you know he had the opportunity to face those guys as well as other guys that are AAA big league pitchers, and I think those are valuable wraps and I've heard You know a little bit of the rallying cry like what are we asked to lose and what we have to lose is. Putting Joey Bart on a career path that doesn't allow him to get the most out of his ability what we have to lose his a calling him up. You know maybe a little too early having him struggle having that impact his confidence and That's the last thing we want to do, and frankly would rather be you know a little bit late on calling him up in a little bit early on calling up and You know that is not to suggest that we have any. Notion of what the right time is. You know that we're waiting for a certain day or that we wouldn't do it by a certain time. But we're just continuing to collect information and. As much as anything you want feel like when you call him up, it's absolutely the right time, and if he starts out over twelve for over twenty, no one's going to say, Hey, we call the sky up too early we're gonNA feel like this is the right time. We're just GONNA keep running him out there and when we get to that point, we'll we'll see up here in the meantime I think we might have put to rest the thought that the giants were holding them back for service time issues to get that extra year because at seven days of come and gone a long time ago but. Anyway speaking of Sacramento you. Made a point. The great thing about a minor league season is facing so many other teams and so many other countries but I just I've always wondered about this. How can hitters you're mentioning and all the others benefits? At these alternative, US alternate alternative sites when they keep seeing the same pictures over and over. Right, I mean I look I guess that's sort of how we really prepared for the season our interest james sort of the same thing I still think it's meaningful anytime. You know you're facing you know AAA Major League caliber pitching on a day in day out basis i. mean we got. A number of guys down there, you're not going to be facing the same pitcher or pitchers every day. So I I, think there's some variety and look every at bat is different every time you face You know somebody like a Derek Rodrigez. He's GonNa throw different pitches. You're gonNA sequence differently and you as we know that there's just no substitute for that. It's not like that in practice it's not like hitting off of a pitching machine to be able to face quality measly 'cause you day in day out basis is is the is the best way for dyson developed get over the final of being the big level so I think. The the the point that you raise is valid but look at some level even at the major league level. In a year like this year where we're so were playing the same teams over and over again, it's very regional schedule like saint. Over get a decent amount to so it's all relative. I can't help but notice that there have been no postponed games in the National League West. Or American League of all the postponed games been in the central in the east in the cardinals and Marlins have been a mess and I mean, does it signify anything about how careful you abandon these other teams in the West I? Mean, I, applaud the giants. For, continuing with their schedule and not. Getting caught up like so many marlins cardinals did of because that really costs the team, the organization and the fan base. Yeah, you know I, it's such a tough environment out there because you know I have friends who live you know contracted the virus I'm guessing you know people that have even people that are being really careful you know and and not doing anything they're not supposed to do I mean, I know people that haven't really been out of the House and somehow they got it whether it was from a piece of mail older You know who knows so I, you know I for me personally tried not to be critical of any player organization that that that had the sprout up because let's face it. It's just ubiquitous in society right now and you know there's It it doesn't. You don't have to be a situation where someone necessarily did something wrong I mean that said I think we are all really proud of our players, our staff how careful they've been how seriously they're taking this you know the leadership of the Teen Austin's later are player Rep You know I think they have the right perspective about this, which is. Look we know that some of this is out of our hands but everything that's in our hands. We're GONNA do the right way. And that's really carried throughout our organization. We've you know instituted family testing You know employees testing even beyond what's required by Major League Baseball and You know just feel like a lot of those measures you know it's it's a, it's a credit to our ownership who? Encouraged us to invest in in testing and make sure R- environment as safe as possible. He sure Farhan you you've been very vocal supporting the black lives movement. We've seen and read your statements. We see and hear your words on the scoreboard before every game along with Kappler's and. Jalen Davis's Yastrzhembsky's Renewals Why do you feel the need to be expressive? You know there's a there's obviously some. Broad things on in society that you know I'm happy to comment on but you know as much as anything. You know I I, guess hearken back to the bill parcells quote. You are what your record says you are I mean you can say this in the realm of diversity as well. You look at the number of African American players that we have at the major league level of the amount of African American managers coaches, Front Office people weaken trot out every excuse in the book about why that is but you are what your record says you are in an industry you know we have to do better and so that's Where you know some of these stick to sports stuff doesn't resonate with me because you know where big industry and you know we have a really important place in society and I think we have to get our own house in order and that's why I'm proud to be a member of the giants organization that to your point is making our support for the black lives. Matter Movement very visible you know, and then from a broader societal perspective I would say the same thing that You know there is a clear need for change in society for a greater sense of racial justice and You know I've learned that you know when you're in a position of leadership in and you have a voice, you have a responsibility to speak up and you know some of the comments that I've made over the last couple of months I've been surprised by you know some of the feedback I've gotten you know recognizing how important it's been people to hear me speak out people in the giants organization other friends that have were acquaintances from around the game and it just. Makes you realize the responsibility that you have even even more than you realize I mean I've made this comment before You know certain things that might have happened in the past you know that I found troubling might have just texted a couple of friends in said, hey, this is terrible. Did you see this you know but then we're just all operating in our own echo chambers in and you know I think we all in the society that we're in right now in some of the challenges that we're facing have a responsibility to speak up beyond those individual echo chambers. We've seen the numbers, the players. African Americans Y- eight percent logo north of that at least on the opening day roster last year, you know the nineteen percent in nineteen ninety five to managers dusty Baker Dave. Roberts. A. Major League Baseball is doing some things that youth initiatives the RBI program. You know I've interviewed Tony Regan's and tyrone drugs both hired by MLB to help bring in more African Americans at different levels but Y-. Particularly the giants I mean you did interview African Americans. To be your general manager and manager I mean just the top of my head Billy Owens and will venable for instance I mean they're qualified. They're good. They're still looking for for those gigs of why aren't we seeing more decision makers in decision makers at at at the higher levels in baseball including on the giants and I mean, why don't the giants have that presence? In upper management or for that matter, even on the coaching staff, which is very diverse otherwise right. I you know I. Think that to that process, the GM process manager process, and for us, it was important that we had multiple You know for lack of better word diversity candidates and that this wasn't just you know. Checking the box next to a we you know we interviewed one African American person for this job and one for that job So that was important to us in the process I mean, you know we have prioritized becoming more diverse as baseball operations. Groups that certainly includes not just increasing the number of African Americans in prominent positions, but the number of women as well as the. Other groups and people of Color it. These are all really important initiatives for US and again I I. You know we we hear this a lot but I, there's great resolve in this organization to do better and I think to your point John One thing that's been A. Hallmark. Of the giants organization and a real positive has been the stability of the leadership. We had a lot of people in leadership positions for for long periods of time and You know I think that's one reason why diversity is not maybe as reflected in our leadership but I know all the way to the top of the organization to Greg Johnson and Rob Dean. This is a priority and For Larry Myself as well we're certainly going to make it a priority going forward. Okay. Maybe a couple more I. mean you're coming up here at facing the Houston Astros I mean they're a different league but you are with the dodgers in seventeen, the world series seven games, and you had personal stake in that series What what is your thought about the Astros scandal including in regard to the years you're with the dodgers would kind of made a difference. Can we just go back to talking about Joey Bar? I You know look I, it's tough I. I would echo a lot of you know what dodger players have have said, which is the you look back I mean that was a heart wrenching loss. You know you know in two thousand, seventeen I think it was one of the best world series ever played it went to seven games. There is a lot of close games. There are a lot of Java And you know you you. You're always going to have that what if in your head, you know and that that part of his is tough and obviously for me, I've left the organization you know. So that kind of chapters closed for me I think for. Good number of guys that still with the dodger organization I know that there continue to aspire to win the world series and I think that might help them get some closure on it but you know for any of us that were, there are no longer there I think it's maybe even a tougher cult swallow. So you know I know as an industry. We've turned the page on it and I think MLB's done a really amazing job especially lighter the pandemic in and some of the issues that we have logistically ballparks right now feel very confident that this kind of thing isn't happening anymore and that's really important. But you know I would be lying if I said that you know personally you didn't. News coming out and You know just feel like you know you. Maybe you were there may be cheated out of something that's the tough pill to swallow. After the Astros, you play the as and you an organization for for a long time. That's how I got to know you many hours ago and I mean, you were there through the fourteen and You know on your watch and Billy's and David Force. Everybody's what I mean. Meddlesome. From the two thousand twelve drafter chat pender and Sean Monnaie from the two thousand thirteen drafted Matt Chapman from the two thousand fourteen draft. Then you go to the dodgers and you're there for years but you know there was a trade made with Frankie Montas hadn't laid Oakland richhill judge radical. So you have an attachment to delight of the key players on that team and of course, with Billy, Bean David Four. So many others it's a stable organization over there. So I wanted to ask you how how much you follow the team what do you think of the two thousand twenty as a? Young they win every day even when they ball. And and how do they keep doing it? With that budget. Yeah, I mean again, you know we talk about the spill of the giants organization it certainly true with the as to you know you may know that Billy's longtime assistant Betty Shinoda recently retired and You know I got invited to her retirement party and I went you know had a chance to you know, and this is obviously pre pre march pre covid. But at a chance to you know, need a lot of people that I worked with the as left. He said I left there two thousand, fourteen six years ago now but it's just a really stable. And Look I. It's amazing how well the as playing house or to quietly do of the united your type added we're talking about in the bay area but you know I think it just goes to show that you know the success that Billy David Bob Melvin the group there has I think. It goes a little bit under appreciated with the challenges they face. So it's been fun I know it's going to be a challenge for us next week when we face them because you're right they do seem to win every day but that's that's you know it's it's a it's a fun bragging rights series for the bay area in general and you know for my personal relationships with Billy David of the other guys they're. Going to be the same kind of stakes involved. Yeah. Yeah. Well Light. Let me just throw one more in if I could. Bruce, Jenkins wrote over the weekend. Campaigning to keep those keep the wall closed out there in right field at the ballpark of the ball seems a little better. If indeed, that's a reason the ball travels a little better but we would that be a consideration I know that not hill gang is is quite popular out there but do you think it affects? The wind patterns and therefore the flight of the ball or in could that be on the table for for leaving? Yeah. I. Mean I. Don't really want to speak out of turn Ballpark Kinda decisions or a lot of people would be involved in those but dancer the question. It certainly, a plausible theory for me but I think about you know we we made a number of changes to the ballpark obviously putting the bullpens out in Centerfield You know I think anytime you chain structurally the configuration of the Ballpark you know wind patterns are so complicated. It's really hard to know how things are going to effected. So if if if some wind pattern expert came in and said, putting the bullpens in in Centerfield has increased, the carry out to right field would believe it I'm none of us really know any better so I think. Between the you know changes made in center field. You know not having fans at the park who knows how that affects affects things in the aerodynamics So I think that could be due to a number of actors I. Think we're open to anything I mean certainly I know our players have been very happy to see some that carry out to right field, and hopefully we can take advantage of it at these tapes we have coming up. We'll forearm. Thank you so much for this and thanks for your honesty and willingness to address all these topics much absolutely. I wanted to again. Thank far Hans Eighty for joining us on the giant Splash podcasts, Henry Shulman, and I will continue bringing new podcast as we ventured deeper into twenty twenty season. The giants splash is a production of the San Francisco, chronicle podcast producers. King Kaufman and Allen Johnson, the theme song. Batter up was written and performed by Lauren Gold and Ray East Louis support the splash and all of our journalism bite signing up for a chronicle membership at S F chronicle dot com slash pod.

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Talking As and Giants at the All-Star break

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Talking As and Giants at the All-Star break

"Hi i'm susan's lesser and i'd like to invite you to listen to my podcast ace plus it's safe fun look at the oakland a's you could hear the personal side of many of these players coaches and team officials plus analysis every week on a's plus hello and welcome to a joint edition of be eight plus giants slash podcast i'm henry showman the giants beat reporter for the san francisco chronicle and i'm chronicle endlessly thank you susan welcome well we've reached the all star break of the twenty nineteen season and we have two teams then find themselves in entirely different places now the listener seemed to enjoy the joint podcast we did the winter meetings back in december so we thought we would do another one and talk about the giants in asia at the midseason point in in this special episode we will get started right after this a henry showman back here with susan's lesser on me joy age plus hand giants slash podcast ensues and one thing i noticed that's funny were recording us a couple of days actually before the break 'em and i noticed it at this point aides are exactly nine games over five hundred the giants are exactly nine games over five hundred so we got some pretty good symmetry going here i mean under five hundred they're the giants what did i say that's not thinking i think i know the rents are nine nine games under five hundred eighty eight or nine games over and disrupt or roaring start a but deejays really that i wanna start off with deejays because he aged have been playing good ball i saw a couple of games when i filled in for you against the raise not too long ago in an i could see the da's made quite a push year in the last three weeks or so what what's going on there i know a lot of it is the starting pitching which we never would have guessed the beginning season you probably remember even as far back as the winter meetings when we were talking into really felt like they needed the starting pitching they'd really you know but block mike fires back after a non tendering him and they're bringing marco estrada who's been a non factor because of a back injury and that's pretty much it you know they they signed brett anderson he's been terrific 'em will fat okay edwin jackson they got back he's gonna be a factor there they let him go so it's really been kind of a piecemeal rotation a little bit like last year mike fires in a bunch of other guys come on really strong a specially you know in the wake of frankie montage who had been there lease suspended for eighty games that the rest of the rotation is just kerry right on as if you know nothing had happened in in there just fine the email ray for the rotation is right around three think three two three something like that are this giving up two runs or less seventeen times the last twenty three games they're they're really a really a strength of the team i never would have guessed that and of course the flip side if the bullpen has been a problem ending never would have guessed saturday even though of course i think everyone knows bullpens are very hard project from your teeth ears tier going information about recordsetting bullpen last year to really a tough one this year i don't think anyone saw that coming yeah you know i i was actually a there the day that montage scott suspended a covered that game for you will today hey i covered the game that he pitched and then i covered the day after an you know that's one of those things that you you think right you're you're first impression is that that is gonna be a killer and i made this point to some summation folks a back then that in twenty twelve well the giants lost milky cabrera to that suspension a to the drug suspension for the rest of the season a and it happened with six weeks left to go in the season in the giants were sort of middle of the pack right then and they held a meeting after that meeting they just sort of decided that we can win this thing without milky cabrera we're were good enough to win without him so were all just gonna come together you know the whole next man up thing i heard the term next man up a whole bunch of time with a times would be as a in it it really seems to have come together and it's just weird out at worst in baseball isn't it yeah really has had a similar situation in two thousand twelve with bartolo cologne and at the same time they also lost brandon mccarthy you know hit in the head by a line drive they had a couple other injuries in the rotation i brought up a bunch of kids dan straight alienated griffin same guys like that and they kind of sales right into the postseason even without the so it can be done and right now they have guys stepping up their that lucrative giants i promise giants listeners the one final had real donald trump who else was they were expecting to get hey seuss lazardo into the rotation who is gonna be in right after the all star break no doubt about that and now he's got elapsed rain starting to wonder we will see him this year but you know these were looking at like that's almost making a trade right you're bringing a a rice out lefty a top prospect in the game a right around mid season that could be a big lyford team in now i think there'll be get lucky if they get back in late august early september timber a and that that's a potentially changes the dynamics little bit but shannon i might be back sometime in a in about a month or so so that so that's good but yeah it's it's been a strange way so you just never know with pitchers there's injuries there's weird stuff suspensions you wanna see from you're ace you know montage was looked like he was gonna be deejays all star and now he's on but that is showing some fortitude here now do you have to tell me what's going on with the giants 'cause i have not had to fill in for you on the giants yet and all i no from across the day as they struggle the score the score runs a and they've got some interesting guys who might be available fia trade so i think that a you know in the next month or so we might be talking about maybe eight looking at some of those those guys over there interesting guys in trade i never really thought about that yeah well you know the giants we were really out of funny week here on just before the allstar break the giants just all of a sudden a went on a fourgame hitting rampage they they beat the diamondbacks at home in the last game of the last home stand then he went down to san diego where they've never really played well and they just they just want the pod raised they ended up scoring a i believe it was forty a ups right thirty runs in four games games in and now i've got people on my twitter timeline going hey you know what were only six and a half out now you think there may be a will will be buyers at the deadline instead of sellers at the deadline and a i i you know i i have to go they were all hold your horses there's a little bit 'em so i mean the giants definitely are hitting better the giants are definitely a becoming a more interesting team to watch alex dickerson who came over from the pod races has really been a shot me arm a bait pitched a lot better in june and they did in in may in april or may specifically they actually had a winning june crazily enough but you know the giants are still a you know the giants still struggling and they they came home from that a that great threegame sweep of the padres raise an a baby they got they got beat nine before yesterday by the cardinals in the in the first game of the homestand so yeah there you look at the numbers six games out six and a half of the wildcard but he looked like every team in the league is ahead of them in the standings except he a the marlins and believe it or not the match so that brings us you know we talk about a trade deadline just like you were looted to giants really have to be sellers i would think i mean unless unless they really think they can win next year and they wanna sign some of these guys do extensions extensions a they have a lefthander by the name of madison bumgarner a they have a left handed reliever by the name of will smith who has not blown save you twenty two twenty two as a as i say this they've got a couple of other pieces an man a you know we've been talking to you and i've actually talked about this at the winter meetings using the the prospect of the giants and aids could actually do a trade now that a you have a far hans heidi the former aides a front office it's executives running the giants she still very close with billion david and all those guys could you imagine the age actually making a run for madison bumgarner and what i man i think it's a little bit of a long shot as they he's has not made a major deal for a starting pitcher since two thousand fourteen kinda remember how that went to deal with great other john lester holt maybe a little less so a bunker teenager at least in tricked given their needs giving the montage suspension then shit a the fact that far han is over there a i i kinda like it a at the madison bumgarner cubs with that sort of ferocity on the map you know he's a leader he's done it he's been there he's a competitor i i think he could fit in very well i wouldn't even have to move threatened to nicer him but i think it would be tough i think yeah it's funny because a lot of the players actual all the giants players actually lives out in contra costa but i don't think he's one of them's got magin if they traded somebody who lives in contra costa could actually shorten his commute 'em you know i i think i think i know what you're saying i i i mean the ace modus operandi has really been a if you'll pardon my latin attempt of their ammo hey there you go the demo has really been the bolstered the bulk and we saw what they did last year with all these big all these big time arms they brought in from the bullpen a you think maybe will smith could actually be a more realistic a a target earlier age well i think warm hendrix emergence and now he's an american league all stars have yesterday a i think that probably loomis fat possibility i think things are committed now the hendrix's the closer and if it's not him it goes back to training who is as everyone knows has struggled this year but what he did last year i guess him certainly at least a little bit of a benefit of the doubt if deejays word i have a need there on an end i think hendrix becoming the closer in training trevino being sort of seventh eighth inning guys it goes back to being a little bit a you know sort of a a better situation laid out seventh eighth ninth they they know their roles a etc i still think dealers were left i don't think they need to spend big give up you know a major prospect for a bullpen arm i think i'll look for you know maybe i left hander that's probably the biggest need not a closer a but maybe a situational lefty and not have to spend the farm did you like yeah you know will smith i mean he he's a lefty you can get righties out as he's shown throughout his season here is the giants closer but i mean i think that far han views bumgarner an as smith as a couple of good ships tips a an you know they're both free agents at the end of the year so that always kind of raises eyebrows of any acquiring team a but you know there there's so many teams out there who are age situation and who knows by the time you're you're listening to this podcast is actually could be in the second or even i think even the first wildcard yeah right i know i go back in that first wildcard spot yeah so you know you you you never know i mean a and i and i see that you know you about i dunno six and a half something like that behind the astros in a you just wonder if they might be might feel that a i mean they could might wanna make a run at the division i mean think that's possible an end the reason i ask her where the giants perspective 'em is a i mean you know they look bb asia have had a couple of wild card games they haven't worked out well you need that one pitcher to go in there and pitch a pitch that wildcard game 'em and you just wonder if i mean you think they might wanna you have a shot at it going through the division i would love it at actress are so loaded i think realistically look at at the astros in their roster and a and think like that's gonna be tough but you know it's not comparable doctors are the best team on paper in the league really to my mind i mean there's obviously the yankees and the red sox have some very very good rosters also but the astros are are really set up for a nice run to the for the regular season in the end in the postseason but yeah sure everybody you know yes i've had terrible experiences and in the two wildcard safe in the so they would love to win the division it just would be a big call it you know this is why you know again in two thousand fourteen years made the move some arja in jason hammel in a obviously john lester for the postseason the specially lester and that didn't that didn't work out so a you know there's there's no guarantees that would allow it wind up winds up being a wildcard situation to and they even the guy on the mound they want in leicester and it doesn't work out there would have been really well set i think in a wildcard situation with frankie montage so yeah yeah garner is much more of that kind of guy in has the track record a tad mike fires has been pitching a couple of other guys that you know if i were available in pitching well sean mnaya maybe a i think they might feel okay yeah it's going down the cost that's what it's gonna be the cut his buddies a little bit of a break and then it doesn't a cost and say you know really topflight prospects are too i think he would consider it a and yeah wow well that's a good transition into you know far han an end bumgarner so i i don't know that he's gonna give bumgarner way even though he is a rental this is one of those situations where a the giants could hold onto bumgarner if they don't get at least if they don't get at least equivalent of a first round type prospect they could hold onto bumgarner a and a given the qualifying offer which will be about eighteen million dollars which i think he would be worth giving the way he's pitching lately 'em and then just take the drastic now you can't do that with will smith or a kevin pull are a you know anybody else like that that you might trade it's funny that you mentioned some arja a good a good transition is well into the giants rotation a in the giants rotation has just a you talk about the the giants at the first half that's been a story because they really haven't been as good as a one would have hoped i think going into the season the feeling was at the giants would struggle they hit a i think that's what the front office new but their struggle the pitch really has been a little bit surprising bumgarner 'em was not exactly bumgarner and if you look at as a you know old old school stats 'em you know they're they're not as good as you as you might as as the old days on some arja just has really never gotten it together although he's pitched better lately and i think one of the stories of be the giants firsthalf is that they really given to youngsters tyler beatty sean anderson a un opportunity in in as you know susan when you're when you're in a situation where you're not gonna win and you're you're going to start a rebuild 'em or you know even if it's a short term rebuild or a long term rebuild 'em progresses measured by how much you're young players could actually get into be the big league roster and actually contribute end up i think the giants have a keeper in sean anderson he was acquired in the two thousand seventeen deadline deal or noon as an immediate twentyfour twenty fourteen first round draft pick has finally started to show signs that you could be a contributor at the age of twenty six and a you know there there's a pitcher at the you know very well i think if he was mbh rotation drew pomeranz who is just not has just not cut it the giants a another guy you know well 'em is a pet venditti the switch pitcher 'em he's really been in the minor leagues for all but but you know almost all season and then derek holland a was reassigned per seven million dollars and now he's a long reliever and the reason i brought those three guys up derek holland drew pomeranz impassioned eddie worthy only three major league free agents are hans signed 'em in a they they've all underperformed and i think that's the story of the first half although he's brought in a bunch of other guys a in in maybe some subordinate rolls on that that have done really well 'em may i think you know far are haunting maybe a little bit better than i do what you know what do you what do you think personality wise says he's gone in come into this situation he's he's made a few signings that that having worked well and a you know now all all of a sudden a you know he he's had a scramble of at forty three players on the giants roster i believe a forty four players on the giants roster in the first act you know far on i know you don't know what's going through his head right now the personality wise what would you say well anyway he's gonna take the long be there but he likes to tinker you know his brain is really active a i don't wanna say he gets bored easily it's not like he's just you know it kind of make making booze for fun or anything like that i think everything's done a were sort of long term view but i think incremental moves are the way they ace tend to get better you know obviously they don't have the big payroll and just go out and buy pieces or a in the giants harm system might not allow that the giants to go out and make some big trades in you know in terms of getting better but i think you know she is going to look at this trade deadline i think very much as what is this gonna do down the line and i think this is where we were gonna see i think what he brings to the giants because i i think you're right i think i don't think he's just gonna go out and necessarily move madison bumgarner just to move them it's gotta make sense so that's that's gonna be really really fascinating you know we've talked about will smith i should just dismissed will smith out of hand because we have closure at remember last year they did bring into closures in your extra million in fernando rodney so it it's not out of the question i entirely a but i think those news when far han knows what that's where you're gonna see and in the meantime it's it's gonna be little incremental things and sometimes a little incremental things you know because they don't cost you a lot and unnecessarily do much in in or you know potentially or are you were what were talking about now it not not active is as had been hoped yeah i mean i i keep bringing up alex dickerson but here's a guy who's a two plus player an they got 'em for basically nothing in a if he stays on the field i mean this is a guy who's got some socks from the left side that 'em you know that a behind the giants really don't have i mean branded belt a really has not been the power force that that he has been in the past she's done a great job of getting on base but he's actually been there leadoff hitter against right handed pitching lately an i mean that that to me maybe the consummate far hans heidi move a looking for undervalued a players who can help you down the line to their their their moral lottery tickets and really that's what moneyball was all about right everybody talks about on base percentage in an analytical staff but really moneyball is just about finding undervalued assets in baseball the way you would find undervalued stock in by it in in hope it goes up right end yeah and if you do enough of those you know an they're not costing you much any sift through them a two thousand twelve days is the the perfect example i think everyone knows that far han was responsible from pretty adding brandon off a brand a mosque comes up in may wind up you know being one of these top home run hitter state you're in and really key piece in that drive to the post season in two thousand twelve but you know in in spring training he was just one of you know six or seven minor league free agent when they brought in a bunch the the metrics at these days they thought you know hey we might hit on one of these guys they hit on a couple of among one homeless lafayette a huge season i think he's a before last season made a very under the radar minor league move to get ramon laureano riano is now looking like you know one of the better young outfielders in baseball an that was exactly what we're talking about these looked at a system that had tons of outfielders and picked off one they thought had eight a big up potential upside but who had underperformed the previous year there's the sort of things you're gonna see far han doing and you make you make enough of those you tonight wind up with some very useful player she adds three four useful players that way you got yourself maybe a pretty decent roster in the draft as well i mean and i got i gotta say right off the bat that a you know bobby evans a last draft with the giants last couple of rats were much better after after he and john bar had some support graphs now you're looking at joey barton elliott ramos in the minors who are both could be coming fast a they have a pitcher named sean shelly six eleven i think you'll be tied for the biggest pitcher in the majors a when you get up here and you know the he signed some international crossings swimming deejays have done a lot better than the giants international prospects a they got marco lucy on a mark martin luciano from the dominican alex ferrario and some others in and i think that far han had a draft this past year which is interesting us a i don't know if this ever at if this was his modus operandi again mike were latin within days but 'em you know the the giants did drafter need what the very first pick a in a very hitting oriented draft they got power hitting lefthanded outfielder in honor bishop from arizona state but a lot of other picks the giants made were just basically trying to boost up the middle talent just get the best athletes you can catch her second base shortstop centerfield and then and then did it again during a hearing the international signing period 'em so i mean a hit i mean you recall i mean is that something is that like a billion day force thing to where you just you just see them 'em maybe not go after the best athlete available at particular positions but just trying you know is is that a big thing the whole up the middle i think that's one of the reasons he was drafted cuyler murray first last year a you know best they thought he was the best available athlete in the draft and as it turns out he definitely was destroyed and it'll be scoring touchdowns pretty pretty sure well so yeah i think that's very much deejays a with guys have been doing the last couple of years but you know they used to go out and get somebody say like a cliff pennington with a high draft pick you know a solid college a infielder but not necessarily the most first overall to be kinda guy now there that i think they are really emphasizing athleticism and they've been doing a lot with international drafty international draft they they a over spent a couple of years ago to get lazarie dormant tariffs is coming up through the system he's now at stockton a looks like he could potentially have a a decent features a big leaguer a end as they were then sort of under a limitation any limitations last year this year they were back to their full spending amount and they made one of the biggest splashes in international drought a signing period with a by getting robert costa who is i think people might remember a couple years ago the braves got a a reprimanded for some irregularities swiss international will prospects he was one of them he was fourteen at the time he is now six oh good lord a sixteen year old shortstop in any as a sign him to a a deal over five million so i think these days are very much focused now on international waters i have been scouting it very well and i think to in a really nice job there and they're not afraid to go to go big and make big splashes there and it's you're exactly right it is they athletes up the middle shortstop center fielders in particular the and focused on yeah you know this is interesting i mean this i mean i really have a preconceived notion of what we're gonna talk about but you know talking to you for the perspective of somebody who has known far han from a baseball since a lot longer than i have i mean i've known him personally for a long time a you know this this is this is quite interesting and i do think the giants 'em it's not gonna happen this year i i really think that the giants still don't have a these guys really at aaa 'em except for i mean they have some guys at aaa that i hope we will see by the end of the year and maybe a week and a wrap this up here by talking a little bit about what we expect a c m in the second half as we move forward a male sperm divided up into two you a section is i think trades an end otherwise and i think just retrace standpoint we've alluded to it the giants are i think are gonna try to get value for their two biggest pieces will smith in a madison bumgarner i think they're also so i'm gonna try and move some lesser pieces the get some organizational depth they have some guys who we talked about it you know in the giants context on on my podcast and in my stories and on social media you have guys like you have other two other relievers tony watson in sam dyson who i think are going to be a very much coveted 'em you have kevin lara who you've seen a lot of you know any american league and and he came here in i mean he's not a great hitter statistics wise but a he all of a sudden has become a one of the best a run producers the giants have you have joe panic who's not had a good year 'em you know all of a sudden you have stephen vote a guy you know extraordinarily well would be a great clubhouse guy on in a you know so i think you're gonna see a lot of activity a trade wise 'em i think that if they could actually swing a bigger deal fur pieces down the down the road involving some of their own controllable players i i think they do it but i don't think you're gonna see that kind of deal in july and then from the non trade perspective giants wise a i think that i think what i would hope to see you know what i think the fans would oversee is you have a lot of veteran players who were were under performing forming now and i and i talk about drew pomeranz a as an example mark melanson in the bullpen a joe panic in the infield who's the world series a twenty fourteen world series ring bearer i think what we'd like to see maybe is that some of the backups a in some of the guys who might be able to help the giants in the future are given more playing time maybe they call up a connor minister the rotation maybe they give donovan solano more starts at second base a maybe a even they break i mean they just brought up austin slater a one year stanford spoke 'em which he said with the rich in a one on one of those stanford focus who's come up in a you know a down a real good job in a short period of time and i think that you maybe maybe it could be a situation where we just see a little bit more of the future they give the fans a little bit more hope for twenty nineteen 'em even though the giants aren't gonna win they're still gonna have to sell tickets in the winter so 'em why don't we turn studios in let me just ask you first of all trade deadline what should we expect well i i do think that both ten is gonna be the distrust i i wouldn't rule out a starter they they really don't have any need for position players they're they're pretty well set there a catch catcher who is kind of the the weak spot or the season in a big question mark and right now they have for producing options there and when nick hundley comes off the rl they're gonna have to make a decision because three of them were out of options so bad that i think will probably likely see a left handed reliever added the guy i would really like to see you know hey will smith it'd be great if they could do it without giving up too much but the guy would really love to see a sean doolittle that might be it might be a little bit of personal bias there who who doesn't want the best packers and the game back back in the bullpen but yeah i think that's that's probably gonna do the extent of it and it worked to work very well for them last year so i i see maybe the same script this year yeah so that's interestingly the giants could actually be more active but that's really a a symbol of a of how how welby asia put together before i ask you about these other a part of the second half i did want to mention i kind of looked up just it'd be prepared to talk to you and i saw the the giants is a team are hitting to forty seven isn't that chris davis magic now but let's stay with us is magic number and you know what we should talk a little bit about chris davis a let's talk about he obviously has been extrordinary pretty i saw her you know one three years now at the hitting to forty seven four years in a row which is insane i he moves off there's no doubt about it you know since he ran into the wall making in a really really terrific catch in the end i wanna emphasize that 'cause he gets dangerous defense i think a little bit unnecessarily he's not about outfielder just cr a miss a great match goes into the crowd thanks aside he has not been the same since then i really don't spend you know stint tony i l a and i think he feels a little bit better but i don't know if he's pressing a or if he's just out of sorts or something maybe a still a un issue there with his you know bleak hit the side whatever that's it certainly is people know from a power hitter you were generating that power now tree work in when there's something going on there hip side oblique anywhere in there it's gonna make it a little more difficult a i suspect i am not a doctor that maybe there's something to do with that a or maybe it's just that he is trying so hard he has not homered a cincy eighteenth he's got he's just gotta hit a couple cincy injury and he looked out of sorts you know he's still contributing he's you know he drove winner run his first game in seattle he's he's especially when there's runners on base you know he's picking up hits here and there and he's so important to the tino you're still winning despite the fact that he is not showing a lot of power which i think is a you know very encouraging pretty but there are going to need him to be the guy they expect him to be in the second half and what is there is there another is there another option for dhs they want it to arrest him a little more i am not not really you know tickets they could work some of their other a a regular is in there on occasion but were special stephen piscotty out probably a good month a that is you know that's what they need me chris davis to be chris davis and he's just not right now and i couldn't tell you what's going on a he he's he's just out of sorts he's off i don't think he could tell you what's going on whether it's pressing or or maybe something physical or or mechanical so yeah that's that's i think becoming coming potential growing concern it's being you know a little bit in the background because there's been winning yeah well you know if the red sox fall out of it there's always jp more okay no i won't go yeah just conclude a what do you looking for in the second just in general generalities pretty age where we have a second half much like they had last year they need to keep winning series which they've been doing here for about a month and that's exactly a the world did things last year they need chris davis to be christova stick it out a little bit in the bullpen andrew rotation which has been i think maybe overperforming given expectations they're they're gonna have to keep keep keep doing that in hopes to get guys like maniacal and lizardo into its end you know when the bullpen at some point they might be adding aj pollock in drug cotton which will be interesting so they might even look at it as like we don't have to go out and do anything super splashy from a bullpen standpoint 'cause we could have a big lead dominating lefty aj pollock throwing dinner to here and there in the end a you know a right hander with a nasty little change up coming out of the bullpen okay well i think that i think it's fair to say that nine games over five hundred a it's good at this point they probably will need to be a little better than that to to make the playoffs i think the giants if they could somehow get the five hundred by the end of the season a after they potentially trade a madison bumgarner and will smith would be considered a great success 'em i think i believe i believe there are people who watch both teams and i heard from some of them so i think it'll be a fascinating second half both teams in susan i wanna thank you for joining me on this joint podcast ended up maybe we'll do it again after the trade deadline that's a great idea maybe i think we you and i might be talking centering the trade deadline i think i i thought yeah that's true that's true mobile app will keep the dialogue going out of the ethics are heading thank you for listening you know susan i will have a lot more podcast as we move into the second giants splashes part of the san francisco chronicle podcast network audrey cooper is editor in chief if you liked the show we love it if you subscribe to it wherever you get your podcast and if you have a minute or two and give us a quick review that helps us build are audience so we can keep growing follow 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11: Angelica Carrillo, Mexico - Queen Park Rangers, London

Far Away Fan

49:28 min | 1 year ago

11: Angelica Carrillo, Mexico - Queen Park Rangers, London

"I'm Angelica. I'm from Mexico City and then crazy QPR supporter. I health everything is good I'm glad to be speaking to you. Great me too I. Know We had some concerns about the time difference, but thanks for accommodating me now. Thanks to you because they know it's quite lay over there. It's going to bed. It's just wilted in mental. Things mixing good. Things are quite crazy. You know because. We're still in lockdown and or numbers on coronavirus are going up but you know many people have to go back to work last week so things are going back to normal slowly but hopefully will get better soon. Well apart from the okay. It's been raining a lot which is quite unusual for us. It's OK okay okay. The last time we spoke you said that you were going to start working this week or get up. Yeah. Yeah. I'm back to work I've made some of my students last week needless good. It was weird. You know we are doing it online. So it's so it's never the same well I think it's been quite good and until now so I'm we're starting anew some new courses next week it's going to be a lot of work, but I think it's GonNa be good. Just, want everyone listening what it is that you do. Oh Yeah I'm a I'm a university professor used to say I'm I'm a teacher? That's what I do. I teach film analysis the signing ovation journalism. Citing the recipe. Yeah. You told me that you love it. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a marvelous work you know What can with steel into a privilege because there's have you know euro with learning it doesn't matter if you're the teacher of the student. So it's a it's a great profession and my students are great. Sometimes Sometimes, we have our difficulties of course but it's. I really enjoy it. Yes. And delicate for this podcast I'm GonNa Start with the most important question. How and why Juliette? it's actually quite funny because I have a little friends from the UK mostly from the north of England and They support Manchester United and whole city and Liverpool and that I logo stamps that I have to say that I I love the Premier League and all the English team sexually except Chelsea, of course. But I will with me and bury from London Kiss it's marvelous thity I've been there five times I think on the I was Trying, to find a London team too. But it was never going to be Chelsea art analyst I been very fond of them or like I like them in the wake West no way full him I mean I was just not happy with any of them. So I read on a on a magazine that Robert Smith from the cure was QPR's supporter. And I have no idea whatsoever what QPR was I was like the what's this team I mean it didn't. It was like a berries more team to me. So I asked my that if he knew something about them my dad was a very big fan of Liverpool and he loves football. I mean football around the world I. Really Love This. So. He told me that he knew what Qbr Walser say it's Queens, Park, Rangers, and he told me that A player he used to follow from Northern Ireland Alan McDonald used to play there and he told me that he actually sold him at a thirty six world cup. Play an ing weather Lahara so was quite weird because it was like you know he's really good player. So I started to Luke the history of QPR and he'd was like a very long. Club you know. Wolf founded in I it has to be eighteen hundreds something like that. So. and they never won anything. You know the history is like maybe they were on the qualifiers of the FA Cup, they won the late one time. It was really odd because they wasn't big winners. and that kind of appeal to me. It was like, okay. Probably many people love them. I was really wrong about that. So I say, okay, I'm going to I'm going to support this club. It's GonNa be Weird enough because I'm never gonNA be able to see them play and they're not gonna be on television so it's going to be really really trailing but I'm going to try it so I decided to to start to follow them And this was like twelve years ago. That's when time So but yeah, that's how it started actually. It's fantastic because. It's quite weird especially when there's a team that you the share language use ensured the location you know it's quite difficult. So I will fill him berry alone being the QPR support in Mexico his actually none of my friends knew them. Or what's. QBR There, most of them are interchangeable. The you know the team was too small for them. And I started to Luke to some fans around the world and I discover Acute Pr Toast Open Lars Nice started to listen to it and Actually. The the reason why the first reason an the life felt part of the family of the cure family. Yes. Listen to them. I wasn't able to watch the Games but I will listen into them with a little the freshen token about the team and I was like, wow, I've wanted to be like them one day. Sullenly, and we started to to catch more primarily games around here in Mexico on the when when they when they went up in two thousand eleven I was able to watch a few games on television it was. A. Big thing for me because I was very excited about it and when we went down to a relocation, it was like Oh my God I'm never going to see them again was depressed. Because everybody Safeway okay. This showmanship is fantastic. You know you're gonNA love that it's okay and it was like, yeah, we're GONNA to be able to say to see them. So so I went I was quite a sad but then I discovered that could watch them overseas. So now I do it every every week so I'm happy about What's the Games now? Because the. Cotin Hasek something called the up close bonds. So it's a strip shen and you can watch it online it's marble. because. I feel like I'm there. So I'm really grateful for that. Because I didn't knew existed actually my friend Allen, who is a reporter from Northern Ireland he was the one who told me that this assist domain I think it's quite expensive. Well, it's worth it because you're going to be able to watch every game. So so I listened to him and I did it. Is Great I. Wish we could get the championship. We don't get it. You know I think in Mexico we might have a couple of games of through skype. Okay. Just, a couple of games so not not many of them. I love how competitive the championship is every week. The table just shuffles completely it's not like the primarily. There are no large gaps week on week. You don't know who's going to be there and amazing. I. Love It. said in the first time, I will bury worried about. You know I'll go into the championship. Relegation is always dramatic and all that. BULB TO BE FIREARM KOI. Happy with the championship because as you say, it's quite competitive on all the teams are in a very similar position you know with. With the same level. So it's quite fun to watch the Games. So Yep, even so I think. While, watching QPR's quite frustrating sometimes about. All. The Championship. Really it really is fantastic. So so yeah, I enjoy us. History of the club did you end up spending a Lotta time researching it? Yeah actually I think this is gonNA sound like I'm a really crazy girl goes. When and one Tony? Fernandez was to the team. As a chairman they may have distinct goal the four year plan that was the for your plan to take the team to to the primly. Unto you know support them financially and the laptop and they release DVD. I d. the rest delight got DVD and watch it and I watch it all the time because you know it's How this team? Was Struggling. With. Money with you know scandals from old. and. Suddenly became very strong and they came to the Premier League and while Tony Fernandez was like a hero to all of us with QPR. Things personal decision now. But I know it was like a like a story of a team that was really struggling. Well the came very strong and that's that's amazing. I know I mean. Seems like Liverpool castleberry amazing stories will keep your husband too. So so yeah, I'm quite happy to go. Through researching about the story of the history of the club. Of being able to develop a you know. This crazy love for the team. So so yeah, I really enjoy it and I tried to read this much like on about them and all that. I'm actually the oldest memory has to be the. World Cup I was just two years old but I remember quite well, that was just wearing nappy. Nursing but just wearing the nappy on my mom used to put me in front of the television to watch the Games because My Dad was traveling a lot because work we're leaving in this southeast of Mexico place gold Morita and she put me in front of television. So I could watch the Games 'cause my dad might be in the game because he was able to watch a menu of Mexico Games during that workup. And I remember just standing there not knowing what was happening both people shouting of the name of a Mexican player that became very famous that it's. Will Sanchez. So they used to shout Google and I was like very happy because. He was on on screen. So I think that's my first memory, and since then I've never been able to the watching football men or have been into football all my life when I was accused was the little girl that was a writing all the statics about the the game. What's crazy but I think twinkie. I found some comfort on football says he was like every time you support the team, you have community so it will a special because. You know I will seem to reading an into films into literature and all that kind of things when I was a kid and there will be weird but the full was something that kept me close to people so so yeah, that's that's why I love it so much. So the League it's quite crazing We have a teams with a lot of money they're able to buy players from France and all that they have an infrastructure that it's amazing and we have smaller teams now the arnold able to do that. But the League is competitive I think it has a very nice level We just started again last week since go with. It's just going well, no. Actually, we have a scandal F- one of the owners of the. Teams. It's going to prosecution because of some money issues. So. Yeah. Football's kind of thing in. Mexico. You know a lot of money it's going on. So so yeah. It's It's a goodly I. Enjoy it. It's it's not as good as this championship. I enjoy it. I watched on Netflix. The CDs with the Maradona in Mexico have you seen that? Yeah. Is it always that crazy or is it just because? Of Maradona? I think it was just because of Madonna goes his very loved in Mexico his you know like I don't know if he's even bigger bigger than Pele. To Mexicans but Marlowe nights like an idol so So, yeah when he came to work with. It well, you know everybody waits absolutely crazy. So yes, probably was because. To who is your club legend at definitely McDonald Because I've I've seen him play in tape you know. Obviously not life and he will from stick wasn't absolutely great player and he did a lot for the team and definitely allow McDonnell is my. My Club legend thought. To be fair, I have to say that stumbles also has a very. Important place in my heart a actually soul stand the first time that I went to seek you pr live of look to throw the wolves during stumbled game. So it was fantastic to see how everybody on the club loves him out so much the family has been so close to a team all this time. So so yet our mcglone alums thunderbolts I have to say that they're absolute leads to me, and even if I if I get to see them play and if even if they are from another era, you know and of course I love the same because of Alamodome also I wouldn't say any their name I'm quite obsessed with it. and. I also have a very. Very true love and the love to the players that I started to watch in two thousand and eleven. Hill. has a very, very special place in my heart his Liverpool and I adore him on the he. He's always been very nice with Pr Alejandro One hundred four lane from Argentina. He's a fantastic man I. Don't know I I. Love Them. We'll go. To blue he'll deserves a bit praise or the dame of the up. That's actually a very difficult question because QPR funds her quite fair with their players but. I would say probably Jamie. Because he was fantastic but he never got the. Legend. Title you know and the. Think probably him but I. Loved Him I've never met a Cuban fund that doesn't like marquee is just that he wasn't label of them. I would say I think sculling obsolete gave us a all effort I mean he just left QPR here. I I saw him every every my doing one hundred percent of efforts and the he will I mean sometimes who wasn't great but you can be great all the time I'm on. Yeah he he got the me though. Harsh treatment. So so to me yet when he went away from Kupwara was very south and very few people were saying they were a feeling bad about living and he I think he this out some other place in our team I've never seen a player doing so much for the team on the pitch I mean, maybe he was not a guy does the used to talk too much used to be you know on spotlight? But I think he deserved better. And he's now it's underline I was reading. Yeah he is. Yeah. But I don't think he's got a chance to play he. He joined just. When was January? were. That's probably the recently is because he's very laid back. So probably that's why he's not getting a chance on the team and the I think he's a great player I mean, you know sometimes the player this not just Cristiano Renaldo. No it's not. Always, this big star The good players are also the ones that give old old their efforts that the gave one hundred percents. So but yeah, he has to do more noise we heard. Young players you're looking to see moral in the. I'm definitely Ilias Chair because I think he's going to be brilliant. I mean history young he fought he has very good condition his dedicated he of so I think it's GonNa. Be Great. I would say very s too but I his going no, his going 'cause he's fantastic player. So I I know that are high for him. So I think he's living QPR. because. I'M GONNA say Chelsea. And because you know it's a London thing and and if we're. Actually! I mean it's nothing wrong with Chelsea on the pitch I mean players and all that. But. I don't know we have a lot of history with. John Terry who is a big? Chelsea figure is gather beary BABB history bad behavior and I think he'd be are going to be able to forget that. So so yeah, I think Chelsea definitely an, but we also have arrivals on the championship and I think we with brand for his way don't get along quite well. So yeah, with within London teams of its biggest rivals, but the rest are okay. What is it about Chilean dictator Because I, think Chelsea and send the organization that it's quite. You know they have a lot of money. they sometimes I'm not saying all the time, but sometimes, they look a bit like mercenaries like players. Dot. com. For All of US money than go out on the next season and that the team doesn't have very deep tradition or players that stay long. Of Goals from number, it's an exemption you know from. Has Been. A great player for Chelsea and is now the coach so I think. He's respectful when We with team old up both when when the teams. have this kind of money. You know history becomes Berry Weird because it's all about the money another about. Fashion about the team. So I think that's why because QPR it's about passion Chelsea. It's about money I mean yes. please. Chelsea fans dome hate me. The But that's something that I feel that is different than the championship teams. I feel. It still a rich league by most standards. It's village, League but the teams are built around community and things like that and this was something I wanted to bring up earlier as well when I was growing up in all those years, it was always loftus right i. mean that was the stadium and it's no longer call. That is now. Now now they're Cayenne Prince. Foundation. and. Okay. That will Very harsh debate about this because you know many of US steel goal, it love to Froth but this snow though disrespect or anything I think is just because of the tradition Cayenne free sprints from foundation was You know the the owners were looking for charity. To name the the the football ground after charity and the they actually made the bowl with the with the supporters and all of that, and the campaign fall from Dacian was the winner and I think it's very You know you know it's a very good calls. So cayenne Prince. Was a young man that was mortar. So they took his name to do this combination and I think that's very something very lovely to, and so we took the the name of the stadium and It's weird. I I have to admit it. It's weird salt because we were very typically left Troth. I think it's an honorable thing to do to name the the stadium institution that it's doing great work. So it's alright and nobody nobody gives you a bad luck. If you say look to throat. So it's Ok yet but bad smell became friends foundation stadium. I love that it's very noble thing to do especially when you have a team like Ukiah and generations upon generations nor does love destroyed and we sometimes get very used to holding onto these traditions I was reading about it and I think it's a wonderful thing and I think that it's a very bored move I'm sure most people especially, some more defend would not have liked it. But at the same time I think it's a very, very noble gesture on the part of the club whereas definitely unto refer in the beginning I think men and some people were like, oh, we're going to look to throw anyways but with most of them, most of the funds how quite happy because as just say this club is very concerned about the community and. they've gone a little grade work not just with the confrontation and you know I don't know if you heard. But when the Grenfell Tower could fire a QPR be some full bowl match on benefit of the victims of Grenfell because spoonful is quite close to to look the truth. And they were very concern them very. You know supportive of the community. So it's a fantastic seem so so yeah, I'm happy would within the name. I told you that the first time that I felt part of the family was through listening to keep your podcast open all hours I started a great friendship with one of the guy from the book dust or full Fini. And he's from Northern Ireland to were always too small. So of course, going to England in two thousand and seventeen. So he he say, well, if you're going to be here, you have to seek you arc. So he got tickets for the for the stumbles game. It was from dusting I. Get to meet him finally in person and to me some great friends in the Allen. And Unwin became even closer because we were a good friends and so on and they say please come back soon. You know this is GonNa be from tested on all that. And but after two thousand, seventeen, my life came apart. and very harshly because Man My dad was sperry. He'll. He was diabetic but also in his last time he suffered from. Prostate cancer. So it was quite devastating because he will swell on one year after he will. Vary very lucky number about shape. he actually. died two years ago so. A very, very harsh time mom was. Going to the hospital all the time I was Berry Berry you know going insane with all of that. And Poll told me in other you should come to them We're GONNA find a way to make you feel better. I want to go I don't know if I'm going to be able to with that I want to go. And suddenly, I decided that, I I wanted to go. To Northern Ireland do some shooting a short film I. Want to go to Belfast for all my life so i. decided to do it. And I am I will seem by to to a game, but this away game of Sheffield United Ground. He was great because we went on the train to suit the game we lost like we always do. A great experience and the I one with my friend Cindy who is fantastic. Great person and When we came back pulled, ask me if able to go to the training ground. To the cumulus training ground. For the day I was like training ground like why? As a yeah. Sure. I mean whether it's Qbr is you know I'm GonNa say yes. He told me what's what was going on? book I receive an email rely was staying in London from Paul Morrissey who was doing the QPR median old up, and then from caroline shade who was the assistance of the manager of Steve mcclaren to tell me that Steve mcclaren was inviting me to the QPR, training ground to meet the players. Now whilst like. What It was like, how is this possible because? As you say. In Mexico, it would be impossible to me your players and to have lunch with them and all that. It's like you would never think of that. So I went to the acuity are training grant who who was quite five from what I will staying. Close to Heathrow Airport. On my own. It was very weird. I was very nervous. I didn't know what to do and they told me you ask for Caroline Shea she is GonNa Take Care of you and I, I came to the ground to the training ground S. for Caroline and she say you are among jurors So. We're going to trade you like You know you're GonNa have whatever you want. You can meet all the players. You can stay here as long as you want they show me the whole You know the whole stations where the local the locker rooms, all all the things that were going on there and then. Curling told me you come here. If you have Cabrera share the whatever they're gonNA sign whatever you want. They're going to be here with you and he was like This is absolutely crazy. I was like I. I give him believe he actually was like a drink troop. To all to be too. So. Yeah. It gets me. They'll the players and I. Have to say I was I. AM particularly grateful with Heroin Hale who he's from Spain actually we we did some Spanish token a little luck and he was pumped stick with me but Joe Lonely and or goalkeeper. I actually had lunch with him Yeah. He's a fun festive guy. So it was a really really really extraordinary day and. I was like I couldn't believe it lets you know like it was very, very strange. And Like. My heroes and then here with them. I will say able to hug just one by the way. So you're an and they were all very, very great with me and I've met Steve mcclaren. He was very funny. It was a great guy with me. So we took a photo. It was fantastic. So. It will somehow unbelievable day. And I just realized that QPR. Chilly Dubious very. Often because they want to the community growth. I remember that they emailed safe wearing biting you because you know you've been through a lot of times. So we want to make you feel better and it was like you know. Your football team is telling you that it was unbelievable. Yeah, it will. Expediency. The Life Damon will definitely and It was too weird because. I miss the oral local game that was the next day but I was flying to Mexico. Actually Carolina told me you know you have my phone number. So if you come back to London Jesus come again come to come to a game. You know you're very welcome here. So it was like these crazy absolutely crazy no other team in the world would do that. So very, very grateful with all of them will pull a Fenian with full Morrissey with Caroline Shave with Steve mcclaren of goals that he's not coach anymore but I love so. I love that and thank you for sharing that with me because You don't this is this is where. It stops being about just the game you know these these clubs and what they mean to us and how. Invested. We are in them in moments like these. When they it's it's a long distance love for a lot of us but it moments like these. It's love that reciprocated and you're overwhelmed by IT I'm a win way by the just show everything that they do in. Like you said, it's something that they do quite regularly wore recommend was surprised because I tweet the pictures after after my reunion with with the guys with the team Annette everybody all the supporters were like your partner for family you're very welcome here. No. They're very warm people. So QPR plans on the football team mates. Let's take the football staff are amazing. So yes, it's I'm very proud to be a computer courses before I feel quite honored to be to. even 'cause we've talked about this the time it. Happened that you're a far away funds they could say like not your another fun you know. Like who are you kidding? You're in Mexico, you're you're QBR support there but. They were very, very, very welcoming with me all of them, all the players, the staff Ba- finds all of them. So the keep analyst fantastic, and the Cuban community across the world you know of any other fans from other countries while Yeah I know the QBR funds wealth his famous of Sebastiano. CFM Argentina. And Jacob tingle from Texas poll from an MBA see QPR, there's a little Funds in New York. So so yeah, and I know anti from Finland and more guys from Sweden. So yes. Yeah. The QPR community is Cresa big yeah. That's amazing. We also told me that you have a friendship with one of the band members from. Stuff. Yeah. Yes. They've just quite weird because James if you're listening to this I'm sorry I'm a big fan of starsailor There are banned from Leeann they used to be very big in the early two thousand. And he's the from the lead singer is Liverpool supporter his very into football. we can lead to greater monster believes closer to Liverpool. So many people toward Liverpool, the other members of team of the Obama thing they support. Mon-, united in. But I, you know I've been following James for all. Seventeen years something like that. And last year, I get to make an interview with him. for a Mexican medicine 'cause they were finally come into play in Mexico City. And it was great. Chad was fantastic interview. He was very comfortable locals very happy with it. And after the the GIG, Mexico City I went to see them. So many people that are going to say I, went to stalk them. And when when I was in front of told me, you're the girl who supports qbr What? Esteems walls seemed Walsh's may either. He was telling me that. You say why? So it's it was quite funny and he's a great guy. He's a very down to earth guy his fantastic song writer. So. So yeah, we have communication and and we. He only knows that I exist because I support gop are so yeah. How did you find that out? Because of my twitter picture. G. Yeah 'cause 'cause we follow each other on twitter on We have a long story actually is at some of my students may the video for one of his solo songs a few years ago? So we've been in contact through twitter for a few years and. He never asked me before, but the moment you so me and I. You are the girl who supported. QBR. So yeah. I think he was very intrigued. A game that lift you disappointed and a game that lift you in. Game that left miss appointed has to be that game against months hippie when Joey Barton got send out with the red card after punching aware on the face. I would punch aware on the face to. Enjoy through the player that I, love but There was a lot in the game paroles. and. that. You know it was it was. So frustrating and disappointing and Man United Man City where fighting for the for the title through the game and it will you know like, I, hate to bargain for for that sent. because he left us very vulnerable. And Yeah I just had that moment in my mind you know like it's printed over there. So yeah, that that should be the gained that I remember and the mall the most. And The game that makes me happy. Game that makes me happy. Well it has to be obviously when we got up on the Bobby, some more outscoring or winner no that that moment was fascinating and. Will. Crazy. So yeah, that that's those are my my ups and downs from Qbr. It's funny that you said that because ups and downs ups where the season. I think it was a thirteen place on the championship thirteen. Yeah. Yeah the. Actually the last game of the championship was quite enjoying because You know we were the local table we weren't going down going up so we were all chilled out. So he was good. Enjoy the game. So yes, and some well, very often when I'm watching the game some very concerned and very worried at all we're going down. This is horrible. So the last game was very, very good for. Telling you I find I, get notice. Yeah. It happens to me all the time that no mother. No matter what I'm nervous and last last season was horrible. We were always worried about relegation. It didn't happen fortunately But yes, you feel like you're losing your life every game you know like Oh, you know those triple in has to be hours and when they're no, it's very, very frustrating I, get nervous every every they. Yet have a big collection of scarves I think I must have around fifty. Yet most of them from English teams. Some seems from Germany and a from. The Netherlands hurry didn't say whole than other lands and. Teams, of course, I think the weird. This one should be the signed. Paulie one from Gemini. And the you know yeah, have I think it had scarves for all the Premier League teams in some championship scenes like Wigan whole. Obviously I have like ten from QPR. And Southampton. Yeah I have quite a lot. So how did you start collecting them? I mean, Qb, can understand will end the others I I have a dream that will you know when I was younger that I wanted to to To Open A pub. With the full. Football team. So So I felt that it would be a great idea to have all describes the wolves. So that's why it started the collection, but I never got the book so. I mean you still can. Sure. That's amazing. You should have told me this earlier. I'm crazy every. Every town that I said I. Go to the football ground or to the shop and buy. SCARF. So yeah, I'm friends. If they go to you know some holidays they bring this car from their local clubs and all that. Yeah. That's lovely. Wow. That's that's amazing. Fifty scowls is new small collection. Now it's a really big collection, but I should stop because I don't have place for any. Anymore. That was GONNA be my next question. How do you manage the space? Now it's crazy I know I know. No. No no, it's. It's It's it's no small feat. Fifty fifty scarves. That's quite. either. The only one that I'm missing it's quite weird because when when I was in Belfast. I order Glentoran scarf mentor on, team from its Belfast. And I want to see them play by the way. in, but I didn't want to to loose it because I was going to be traveling. So your there if to my friend's house. That wasn't whole when she was going to see me in London I told her when you come on, bring me this car it's GonNa arrive to your home to your house and that. They'd stupid scarf arrived to today's later. When she often done. So, and she later send it to me through mail. Well, it got lost into male. So I'M GONNA I'm GonNa, GET THAT SCARF-FORM A. Kid I wanted to be a journalist and I think many kids want to be in journalism their smoke. but that I wanted to be journalists because I heard about the troubles this big protest conflict between Catholics and approached them to Northern Ireland and I grew up watching films about about it. What in the crying game from new Jordan who also fantastic saleman? It's the one of my favorite films. And I started to read a lot of Northern Ireland history an Irish. History General and I always wanted to go to buffalo. The first time that I will say able to travel overseas ideally went to both us because it was also be scared because the IRA will still active. Well, they faith I. Don't know if it was true but they didn't didn't want. So it took me. The first time that I've Wilson both the sick to tell us on sixteen I think and I've always been obsessed with with Oliphant the culture, the music, the cinema football us. Oh, the football team. I the one to get into politics, but it drives me crazy that they sing the got side of the Queen Anthem it I. Just don't get it but people from northern Lamar going to hate me after this. So it you know it's very intriguing place and They have a little history. It's a beautiful place when I finally got to to go there at discover the belt festive. So fantastically, Beautiful City was fell in love with it I want to leave their one day. It's my mind and I hope our achieve it. So Yan. I don't know the music of Ebola Wissmann into political music so you know and. They actually the northern. Irish Charts from the national football team, it's very very similar to the Mexican shirt. So it's always been like that crazy connection leg or teen tober close the first time I went to Ireland to their publica fireman somebody told me that Irish Mexicans were quite similar that we were warned people. From the people. So I have very close I'm very great Irish friends and I dunno I just love the culture and I have a very, very strong respect about it because I think it's not easy to to to be come to the by the. So, yeah. It's flushing so and the fact that my first QBR friends left from. Northern. Ireland what's crazy to was very, very weird. So yeah. Yeah, that's that's my thing with with Northern Ireland. Jillian, and I hope I hope you do realize your dream and able to leave this someday. Thanks I. Hope I hope I. I. I get to and if not, I will go to do a PhD over there something. said. something. Do Yeah I I will look into it before the coronavirus crisis and I'm quite sad that Everything went a bit crazy about. I will try to look for in the next few years. So. My favorite question you said, you been a Fan Bahamas no are trophy S, but I'm going to be more strict with me and I'm GonNa say Ab Years Okay because there were four years of. Crazy. It's been a long journey to. What has it meant to? and. It's a very tough question I would say that it means a lot because It's not easy to be in Mexico and to have all this particularly all taste in music and failed in football and being on your own with nobody else likes the same. You know it's very, very harsh. But when I found QPR when when I found the QBR supporters just realized that A. Lot of people. Feel. The same about football of cinema about music and that wish her interest. And we could be and we could be very. Good friends with them. To me it means that I found a community to belong. To belong to you know 'cause it's It's very weird to be on your own. Cheering. A team from yourself in Mexico, city when everybody else is. Just. Asking was that team won the QBR means I mean nobody even knows whether t knees? So. To be a Qbr Fan and to me has been like found in family a foot away family but a great hamill you ghosts have to say that particular if saying the poll are take a Ni- a full atmosphere me so so it's been mental to me. It really is like a very important part of my life smelled like Hobie. So so yeah, it's it's full of meaning actually occur. Angelica. Thanks so much coming on Broadway Fan and discussing your Joni of Cuba with me and Philo to you. It has been fantastic. It was a real pleasure I. Hope you had some fun with. These? I hope that you can visit Cuba again and I wish you the very best and what you discussed earlier about maybe a moving to online someday. It will be really great. 'CAUSE numb would be just around the corner. Yeah. Thanks again and thanks you. Thank you. Bye Bye. Have a good day. Thank you. Well, how was it nice? Hi thank you for downloading. Fun I, just like to ask you if I can do. Great to show. Help introduced us to new listeners. and. You can also find us on instagram and twitter at far fan bod. That's. Fan Mode.

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Will There Be Major League Baseball in 2020?

Giants Splash

31:27 min | 1 year ago

Will There Be Major League Baseball in 2020?

"Hello and welcome to the giants Flash. I'm Henry Schulman. The giants beat reporter for the San Francisco. Chronicle joined today by my chronicle colleague John Shea. We're GONNA talk about some John. Comments by Governor Gavin Newsom last week about sports in California it could be interpreted to mean there will be no baseball at Oracle Park in two thousand or the Coliseum for that matter John and I will talk about the ramifications of that on rebuilding team plus John has an idea for a thirty team playoff if there actually is a shortened season. We're going to get into that and a lot more first of all I just WanNa know John. How our how are you holding up in the Hiatus Howard? How are you and your family? Your resume era All well yeah might. My High School student here is going through classes as if it was a real class setting and it's pretty impressive. How they do that so you can hear the lectures. You can see the teachers. You can tune in with all your classmates and been getting killed with homework good. Yeah and you know we. We've become zoom generation at the chronicle to we you know like everybody else. that That's a company that that becomes very important nowadays with that with that technology I should also point out. You know For those outside the Barry we've had now three straight days of rain and I pointed this out on twitter the other day that You know if there were baseball and you know it would be like a minor problem but We probably would have had an opening day at Oracle Park on Friday and then rain outs Saturday and Sunday. And maybe tonight's game would be in jeopardy too because of this because of this rain But you know the the bigger issue. Obviously while the big issue in the world is is really the health and safety people during the corona virus. It feels weird sometimes to just talk about sports in this regard because they're not critical to the big picture but so many people. Are you know care about sports? And as I mentioned in the introduction last week President Trump Held a conference call might have been. Saturday a conference call with all the Sports Commissioners Talking about bringing sports back to America after The the virus is contained and. He said he hoped that the NFL season starts on time. In September when Gavin newsom was asked about that at his daily press conference. He said he doesn't see that happening. And if there's not gonNA be any football or at least with people in the stands in September that pretty much means there might not be a baseball season At all and I mean there are various variations. We're going to talk about like just for instance playing without people are playing in neutral sites but I mean hip have you kind of wrestled with E. Topic the idea that there might not be any baseball at all in twenty twenty six ball to be perfectly honest. I don't see how there could be baseball in twenty twenty I. I just don't see it. I mean the president can say what he wants but every community is different. Obviously but we're talking major. Metros were talking you know Just Not New York and San Francisco. La but also Denver and Kansas City and everywhere. In between I mean these are these. People are standing next to each other at work still whether it's restaurants or You know the public gatherings of some type which you know we're we're still frowning upon and it's listen I mean. Can you imagine not just forty thousand people standing side by side but twenty five men in the Dugout? Her bullpen standing side by side. I mean it would not up to Korea standards in terms of testing. There's no vaccine We're talking about One positive and then all of a sudden everybody comes off the field like we saw in the and in Japan. Yeah well in Japan and it happened with a hunching tigers with three positives on one team and so delayed that. And they're going to give it a whirl in Korea there little further ahead of us in terms of testing and the numbers are way down compared to where we are They got ahead on this early but But but listen I mean it's it's you know half the people I don't know the numbers but those who carry don't always have symptoms so I would you know the you're a second baseman shortstop might be carrying it. But you don't know your Turner double-play your high five and coming off the field. And I just don't see it Henry. Do you see baseball in the twenty twenty year. I'm beginning to think there won't be Another jarring thing that was said Was An article that Ken. Rosenthal put out any athletic with some of his colleagues. And you know. We've we've heard about this notion of playing baseball in front of no people in Maybe even in neutral sites like maybe having the whole season in Arizona there are eleven ballparks in Arizona. If you can't chase field and all the Spring Training Park in theory you could have twenty two teams playing at the same time and then have some night games with The other people playing but can actually said that this is something that's been tossed around in baseball but if you're not going to bring people together In a stadium to watch baseball number one like you said the players could be in jeopardy number two. These players would all be quarantined. I was the idea in one section of Arizona. Well they're going to be living in hotels and the people are going to be working in hotels and going home to their families and coming back and So they are going to have to get on a bus with a bus driver. Who's going to be with his family or her family. And then having to come back so are we gonNA have to quarantine bus drivers and desk clerks and and the like it. It just seems to me that while the notion of playing with nobody in the stands is you know I mean it's it's an interesting idea If if the fans are in danger of getting sick it it seems like you say the players are still endanger of getting sick and I know I mean. I hate the idea of not having baseball again. But you know maybe it is the best solution I mean. We haven't I mean nothing has upset baseball world. War One didn't eliminate baseball world. War Two didn't eliminate baseball and it it might take a pandemic like this to to eliminate it and I I I root for it. I root for it to come back. I root for some of the other sports. You know. I'm I'm finding it hard to believe. Just like you and nine eleven was just set back one week. Right Right In fact that was the year of the diamondbacks and and Yankees Mr November Derek? Jeter bonds. You know it's seventy three home runs but you talk about empty stadiums. Ye- baseball the take money from TV. That wouldn't be a major setback for them when they mostly speak of money Because it's like we talked about plane in Arizona. These are only eight or nine or ten thousand seat facilities anyway but speaking with a couple of giant pitchers who actually played in that two thousand fifteen game in Baltimore that was played with no fans the only one in history because of civic unrest in Baltimore Jeff Samardzija Kevin Guzman but Samardzic told me says I wouldn't recommend it because so much baseball is your you know you feed off the energy of your fans Even if you have eight or ten thousand in the crowd Maybe Tampa Bay right Kennel. Stick it back in the old days but You know forty thousand thirty thousand San Francisco. Now you feed off that in that that that sorta there's a reason you have a home. Field advantage or homecourt antigen basketball but Guzman said that it was the only time in his life that he didn't play in front of Fans said even at t-ball your mom and dad show house. I you know I. I don't know that I agree with Jeff on that. Just didn't mean to interrupt but I mean I think that people can get used to anything I mean. Look at us. We're all getting used to living our lives inside our houses and not going to restaurants and not going into offices. I think we could get used to that. I think the players could get used to that and I think they could be convinced that while they're missing something with having fans not being in the stands It would be important for the morale of Americans who love baseball so much or football or or sport for that matter but like we talked about in the beginning to me. It always it all comes back to safety. You're exactly right in the Gavin newsom. Actually said it's You know it's not. It's not going to be Sports and then society. It's going to be society than sports. In other words. People are going to have to go back to work. I the hospitals will have to get more normal. I in then and only then. Can you talk about you? Know playing ball That is all secondary as I keep going back to Buster Posey in his final interview and Spring Training. It says You don't let let them figure everything else out first and then they can figure out baseball that You know what I but you and I were there. The final days in Scottsdale and You know just just going back to baseball for a moment It in again like Boise and everybody else in the world says it is secondary but but I really would have liked to see this team. Henry there's so much to look forward to. I mean we invest a month of month and a half of our lives they do. Everybody does fans just to see what this team could do with the new coaching staff And you know the core guys were were healthy and mostly raking in terms of the hitters Crawford and Posey You know Crawford doesn't usually start off so well but he was hitting almost four hundred Longoria was playing well. belt was getting his game at margin was looking good so much better than a year ago. And he's coming off the shoulder. Cueto coming off the Tommy John. A day before You know the announcement that there would be no more baseball Cueto's named opening day starter. And Yeah but beyond all that I mean you had the young guys like that. Do Van and you Stransky the first time they were gonNA play a full season and maybe dickerson was going to be healthy. And two guys that really stood out That I recall the Darren rough and you know who played in Korea. The last few years big home run guy. He Hits a Monsters Zach Green as well so the how the how the bullpen of laid out That was the really the unknown who was going to be the closer of anybody. Who's GonNa be the setup guy so those last two weeks out as you know Henry? There's so much news that we that we weren't Able to report on because it never happened but the roster break down the lineup options Who's GONNA lead off? How much was Posey GONNA play Maybe we would know more about Joey Barton whether he was gonNA play some first base in Sacramento. But you know all those things that are on. Hold for quite a while. Yeah the the one thing I think about in terms of the giants that we are going to talk about baseball. If you're a rebuilding team like them on one hand you're not going to be hurt too much by Guys with long term contracts who are part of your future losing a year because the guys who do have long term contracts on the giants were sort of nearing the end. Anyway what I keep thinking about is there's a rebuild and going on and it goes beyond just seeing whether bark could play first base. I mean you know without baseball you have joey. Bard is not going to get the reps behind the plate Elliott Llamas is not going to get the at Bats Seth Cory and Shawn Jelly or not going to get the innings and you wonder if the entire rebuild is going to be put back a year and again. I mean I. It's weird just to talk about this stuff in light of people who were dying but the people are interested in this Is it going to? Is it going to set their The rebuild back I'm doing a mail bag and I was taking questions on twitter this morning before we started recording. Somebody asked me if hundred pants will ever play. Another in a get. Another at bat for the giants. You have a bunch of guys like that who are either on one year major league contracts like like pences or Gassman And then you have guys like you mentioned like rough Who are are you know? Were here on. Minor League deals and We spent a whole spring training writing about these guys. And if the whole season is lost it's GonNa be it's GonNa be a bunch of history of what we saw what we could have sought totally wiped out and It's just weird. It's just weird to contemplate all that We're GONNA have a draft. That may only have five rounds in it. I mean it's GonNa be something unusual that we we've never seen and and you know even if there is baseball it's going to be. Let's say somehow they come up in July August with some sort of way to play a shortened season that extends out into the winter or whatnot. It's it's going to be different and You actually you wrote this before I kind of the severity of this became like in full view and we really started to realize before nuisance comments that maybe there won't be baseball this year. You wrote about an idea you had to sort of jump. Start the game and Pretty fascinating weren't you talk about that and I just did a talk about question May I ask you? May I ask you to explain what it is that That you were writing about you. Mean the playoff format out. Yeah so I can go now from glass half empty the glass half full and suggests there will be baseball right and if there is I just wrote about this the other day and I just made the point that said you know why narrow down your playoff teams. It's it's the right time to bring you know Positive Vibes and joy and hope to every market so. Let everybody in the playoffs. Let thirty teams in the planet. Let the giants in the playoffs. No matter what their record is so you know I suggested I said well listen. Best case scenario I'm guessing if You know we flatten the curve. A little bit more and testing becomes more of a reality for all And and we get behind this a little better than then. Suddenly say okay so. Let's start in August. Let's have little spring training in July Go Back to Florida go back to Arizona and make it work again. You know who knows right but if it did why. Not This format Arizona teams you stay in Arizona for two months. You play their same with Florida. You have fifteen teams. You could play each other four times in come away with fifty six games over two months and then you know you're gonNa have your final standings and that's going to you know help Base to the playoff format. And you know follow along Henry. So here's the formula We all know the world. Baseball classic has pulled play so in Arizona with fifteen teams could divide those fifteen into three pools and then You you have around Robin. So you're playing five games and from those five games. The top two teams will advance to the next round plus a couple of wildcards So you know so. It's two four six. Seven eight teams are left. So now you can go into a bracket you know Like like Like the March madness right the NCWA. So the top. Two teams in every pool advanced that six plus two wildcards. That's eight so now. You're down to some festive fives. Well the first Besse five will give you four teams neck specified will give you two teams right so those two teams would In Florida and those two teams in Arizona would have a best of five at where the diamondbacks play in the marlins play their big league. Ballparks right so now you're down to to have a world series best to seven. Where do you play well? What's in between those two states where you could bus and not fly Omaha? The Rangers are opening an all outside. It's got a roof It's not that close to Omaha. Might be though Arlington Texas. You know there was supposed to open a new ballpark this season. Open it with the world series. So you do the math So everybody is in the fewest games. You could play his for the most. If every series went best defied five the best seven seven the most games. Replace Twenty six year in and out in a month and You know again. This is A lot of high hopes but Just a chance to be creative with the format to be all inclusive. At a time. We're all inclusive. Is You know this could be a good thing. Well I WANNA ask you but I I have some thoughts. I have some thoughts and I'll get. Why don't we get to do a little break here? And we'll get to them right after this and we show them in here with John. Shown on the giant splash. We were just talking about his sort of world baseball. Classic plan to have a season we in Florida and Arizona had a round robin than have a elimination brackets. Then have a final four in Texas and you know when I read the story and hearing you talk about it you could. You could have a situation a crazy situation where maybe not one of the elite teams ends up winning the World Series Championship. Maybe a team. That has some Some younger pitchers who just happened to get hot or few guys who get hot over a one or two month period. We've seen this a lot in baseball. Where you know some somebody at the beginning of the year hits Twenty five twenty twenty. Five home runs by June fifteenth and then is never heard from again The I mean you given any thought just speaking by the local teams first of all about how the giants as might do in a kind of tournament like that. Well Yeah Well. First of all You said well why have a regular season The one thing I didn't mention his Imply if you're GONNA play four games Just have to be hot for a week to advance to the final sixteen. You're you'RE GONNA imagine some teams to well. What if what if you know? What's the tiebreaker will? The tiebreaker is a regular season record. That's why right regular seasons important And then if you have identical than its head to head or whatever you know so you could break it down. Any number of ways Yeah The the as have a a wonderful young rotation It's it's not like it's not like the fourteen world series where Bumgarner is going to carry you because you're going to have to win You know some some games maybe three and on and you're GONNA be playing every day so it's not like bumgarner come back and you know pitch three times in in in pool play You're going to have to be deep with the rotation and that might be A giants weakness going in Because who knows about that rotation beyond some Rjr even Cueto You know the number five guy Acl surgery right. I mean not that you wouldn't be the number five guy pool play 'cause it's only four games but but yeah I. It's it's just the hottest team as we all know. Ten twelve and fourteen giants. How many times were the giants actually favored in any of those series zero? So it's so it's a matter just getting hot at the right time you look back at two thousand Ten and how awful they were in August and say this is just a rotten team and then let's combine the first game in September and they just had a great month and then that carried over to splendid October and that over to three championships and in five years so Yeah maybe the best teams you know as we know what? The dodgers every year Or Not GonNa win it all and and by the way. Mookie Betts. Is he going to be a dodger? I thought he was trained at the dodger he might not ever play with the DOT com. That's an amazing. I mean that's an amazing aspect of all of this. Is that when I if whether the season is lost completely or partly You'RE GONNA HAVE YOU'RE GONNA. We'll have had trades like that where the dodgers actually gave up some decent prospects after the whole mess with a three way. Trade with the twins they. They gave away a good young shortstop good young catcher to the to the Red Sox and they could get zero games out of Mukhi bats and I don't know I've seen some speculation and that's all it is that That the giants could could make a run at bats. Now who knows maybe he feels an obligation to sign with the dodgers after they traded for him maybe You know he just likes being dodger for whatever that is in twenty twenty and But the giants are a team that does have financial health. That can weather Something like a full season closure maybe more than some other teams not just because of the wealth of their partners but because of their business plan because of the revenue they generate from The new project they have going on in peer in peer forty eight. I'm sorry at lot. See so lot a you wonder if Even if the giants rebuild his set back that maybe This might be a time for them to strike and maybe get some of the free agents. They might not be able to get otherwise in the army. Now we're really kind of talking and fantasy land here Because there's so many variables in this but Could you imagine them going after? A mookie betts are like that and then just sort of fill in with the young guys as they come in well if they're going to go after. Bryce harper can go after everybody and have a history of pretty much gone after everybody but always finishing runner up right now and sometimes. That's that's been a good thing because The guy they wanted for big money didn't necessarily pan out One of them is with the Yankees right now but You know it it's You're talking this roster and you're talking obviously twenty twenty one and maybe a sad thing about this is is The this was going to be a year that the posies and Crawford's Longoria isn't belts. They're all going to try to prove themselves under this new coaching staff. And now they're going to be another year into their thirties. So we can say all you want about Joey barred and these young guys well. They'll have their day. But how much time do these other guys? And that's that's the thing you know in baseball. See the owners last week right when the when the owners and players got together the Union and ownership got together mapped out. This this deal I mean I think the the owners made out very well First of all they don't have to pay four billion dollars in salaries they settled on one hundred seventy million to be spread among the thirty teams which is low less than six million per team. That's on three or four percent. Yeah three or four percent of what payroll would have been. Yeah Yeah so And not only that now. They don't have to pay all that money with you. Know Forty rounds of the draft. It's just five rounds like you said and it's not a all the money isn't even upfront like generally as with these bonuses for top draft picks. It's it's what is a hundred thousand the first year and that's going to be staggered and deferred over the course of a few years. I think the owners made out nicely. I mean. They don't care about service time. It doesn't matter if they're getting a year older but players who have this little window of opportunity in their athletic careers are losing a year and those north of thirty it. It's it's really painful. I mean they're all very rich and they've all succeeded in life athletically that this is really meaningful to them You know finishing Strong finishing careers on top. Doing all those things but but now that's going to be stripped from them and you know again we always go back to. This is so secondary you don't even see it in Review Mirror baseball but but Posey in Crawford Alcott. Their contracts are all going through twenty twenty one Longoria through twenty twenty two so this was going to be a big year for all those guys and now I don't see it happening at all. Yeah and you know You could talk about How pitchers will have fewer innings in their arms and heaters would not have had the rigors of the the twenty twenty season. But you know father. Time really has an effect on bodies as those of us who have had a lot of time in our lives and you can work out as much as you want to work out. You're still going to be a year older. And I I do WanNa use that as an opportunity real quickly to plug the story you wrote on. Sf CHRONICLE DOT COM. It was in the paper About a day in the life of Brandon Crawford what he's doing now during the during the hiatus and how much he's working. It's really incredible I I wanted to close with something. You just alluded to About the owners and the players talking together I think that the one. I don't even want to call it a bright spot because there's no bright spot to this but the one effect that could have a positive outcome for down the road. We were looking at a very contentious new collective bargaining agreement negotiation with the players and the owners after the twenty twenty one season ended. I mean for the first time since one thousand nine hundred ninety four ninety five strike. We've heard On bling that who they might actually be labor stoppage because the nature of Free Agency has changed. I mean it's it's shifted so much towards the favor of the team With with the way things are done now in front offices metrically and whatnot. It almost seems now like it would just be a sort of a industrial suicide if you'll pardon the term to had any sort of labor stoppage even if they play a part of a twenty twenty season or all of the twenty twenty one season. It almost seems like these. These people are going to be forced into a room and Given the reality that the country has been through something really tragic and Something that has really affected the economy in a bad way. It needs baseball. The players need the owners. The owners need the players in. I'm just wondering if it's possible that the agreements that they've made so far in the amount of time they've been talking about everything for not just for the economics that they've decided in the short term but what a season would look like if it came back what a spring training would look like. They've been in the room together. Figuratively I presume Talking about this maybe we get a New Labor Agreement Sort of Just for the sake of the health of the industry For you know from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty six and get this settled out with without a work stoppage. Since we've had a work stoppage now you have any optimism about that. Oh Yeah I mean. Can you imagine one game being missed because of a lockout or strike under you know this climate or environment? I absolutely not I mean to the day. No the owners remember the players might not but ninety four ninety five longtime ago but some of these owners were were still around including the giants guys They lost a lot of fans because millionaires couldn't come to an agreement with the billionaires on how to divide all their wealth. And that sort of what this is about you know whether it's the extended arbitration rules or whatever all that stuff is really meaningless At the very least they could just you know maybe just a shorter deal instead of five years. Call it two or three. Just move on And and sign off find a a a deal so there wouldn't be any labor strife or Harsh words between each other. I mean you and I both covered the ninety four ninety five Strike and it just went on forever and it was an embarrassment on both sides. And you just don't WanNa see that again for one day in this environment because if you do you would lose millions of fans again and You know fans need baseball baseball. As as an escape as their fantasy land as their diversion. Now more than ever. And that was the case after like you mentioned the world wars after nine eleven and and on and on so Yeah I don't see that as being an issue anymore. You know that used to be you huge headlines. I mean what we considered fake news then is is just no longer You know a speck of Y- importance date based engaged on the reality of the Times. Yeah now week we could talk about the impacts for an hour if we wanted to. But why don't we cut it off there? We're going to have a lot more. Podcast down the road And just for now. Let's just hope that What we're seeing in the news. The last twenty four hours that maybe The effects of the virus or not going to be as bad In a lot of places as maybe I thought and let's just hope that everybody just gets healthy and we can return to our normal lives soon and I wanNA thank you for joining me John. Thanks a lot in yourself and everybody listening. Be Safe Okay. 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59 - Premier League on NBC Group Chat Episode 8: Trivia!

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59 - Premier League on NBC Group Chat Episode 8: Trivia!

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I will bend me one hundred bucks if you followed that by saying. Don't tell anybody. Thanks very much ed saying. Dta joined the goal was an accusation. That I try just as expensive good level not straight loss origin of get harder questions came. Listen must see. I know the this teenage singer Songwriter. Mosse won four. Grammy Awards busiest ceremony including record of the EH album of the year solid. The I'm best new office teenage singer. Songwriter ramblings this ceremony. What is being really honest we honest? I feel that feels. That feels good to good show. Good show you. You've got a young daughter. Listen you know I know she sees into moment you got it. Yeah that's it. Let's go go go to be honest. In Boise. We lose a point. They should lose a mustache things. Billy Irish and Irish boy of the album round round about Privy League. So I let me just give you round one final schools team. Gb With Five Team USA with two very much Omega deals with I know okay. Let's go so we started laughlin with the team. Gb So it's nothing with Team USA. Question Number Rubio musty. And Kyle. There are five cups. Minute Penn. There were five clubs who have each been relegated from the Premier League full times name those five powers for sure throws promised West Room. How many how many times have renegade walk? Slow Times nor Polish West Room north notice. Good borough I mean nothing is though Middlesbrough Times so we feel good with three. We need one more right into my five cops. You'd be school times. What would was primarily or or relegated. General move we got. We got now captain who've regardless no rage West Ron a chance to steal backs he didn't GonNa cops this so they get full. We just go get the one problem in the Sunderland. Tom I mean. Shout so nuclear Newcastle you please comes in four minutes. Brisbane. I can think of three minutes but by the white and might be Middlesbrough Ninety two the first guy. Ninety seven hundred guy. Did they got relegated again. Early years ago seasons must be of got relegated during our coverage once one year so three more times for that. I'M GONNA teams backs rhyme teams that if I do have to get old fried to get all five and then I would say if you got any of them wrong. Say That whole thing is wrong so that everyone to do their own five. I'm you only have fifteen seconds to get any charm. Submitters Bahraini foreign. Have you got your five five zero. Soon we go age soon. Middlesbrough West from West Brom Middlesbrough College. Route Norwich Quest Frawley all you happy with those five you counsel Asking you advise seconds. Are you happy with US five? Oh thinking for this timeframe says what your tongue quiz earl earl take it. Take it home. I got going what we go. Come rats off massive very around two from team. Usa GP this full is the oldest scorer in the history of the primarily. Who is it? If you would like a hint. Now let me all over else gonNA keep his up the hit anyway. You Have Integrity Decker. This phone forward is the oldest scorer in history of the primarily who is a very bay close to knocking. No hint of the hinterland. Rebekah name the child after it. That's that's a that's the definition and is not thinking that they look Becsey's did print you primarily this primer league. He's a full of a fool which everything is when Abbot get sharing sharing in. I think there's somebody else played for. Bradford who was the guy that played for Bradford up from new best? I mean he looked about sticks. They didn't they actually twenty eight on the score as we said oldest score coiled. Gile your question you can go and get it kind of is now isn't a number and we'll be in a second whereabouts. Whereabouts are we thinking. Come on Global Players Shepherd United States back in the day or Wimbledon. Now he wants a book but it could be any player right. Doesn't have to be so they guys the first the B. old when he has to be forty I mean Sheringham was forty so he has to be possibly even forty bomb. Does Dean seconds to answer. Plays worn off in forty years old and scored a goal in the premier league. Sh- Any can you think of anything other than Saudi sharing now note expediting sharing announcer Teddy Sheringham at the age of forty years. Two hundred sixty eight days is correct. Got All easy you just give them the trophy. Maybe my back yourself decker. The was the final goal was primarily Greek anger westbound on boxing day. Two thousand six he. So I'm trying to withhold his God okay question of this former defended the team. Usa is full defender. Who played for four different clubs throughout his career at school? The most own goals in primarily history with ten name plan. It's wrenching you hang on. Plays for four different clubs in his career at school. The most goals in permanently history with ten goals recommend not full premier league core for different clubs for different primarily clubs Karan's so he played Chelsea Leicester than trying to school so he two weeks. Let's else transplantable Lakeville. Who Does sale some not? Perhaps she'll try going. Think County scored a few Jamie County school to view but not as many as for four didn't play for four nine hundred by the clothes but Gary K hill now. I am placing of Joe. That was only puffer. Three your team seconds please. Sinkat Brunton clapback. Yeah incorrect tons. I steal the light. How it's just what we think about this league. Did you school not primarily? But did you school books obviously yeah. Don't the without question correctly scored the best goal? I think in Burma. Hey Doni Richard Richard Dumpster. Don't be a shout going Richard Gas. My guess we're shout so how. `Bout you ignore. I don't know I remember seeing him on some like ongoing thing in it again this. 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And Patrick Liacouras Ou- May Kyle forward question for round two and it goes to team. Usa that has been five goalkeepers in primarily history to score a goal hanging name. The five goalkeepers Tim Howard Tim Howard. What was the question again? Begs sorry that be five? Gawky present property history to score a goal men in the five. Keep us the Tim. Flowers got one for Blackburn Rovers. Schmeichal school Tim Flowers a bit now earn. Kick him on using one at stoke jewelry. Schooling was outlets. Tim School it's Doug. We'll definitely scored. I know the crazy. Sound Robinson. Thing the spurs keeper. Ask a trout each school with big money. Massive FIS kicks miles. I remember goalkeeper scorn on on a on a corner kick Michael Cooled off Michael Sunny. We got too many to move. Sorry back and he was four ridiculous ridiculous. A hard question by the EMI. If you've got so far no waiting system to the challenge team how it tastes Michael. Pool Robinson guys goalkeepers this is just I mean this is just a shot in the dark getting threes and grabbed ten seconds adding wanted impressive getting three incredible five and boss decides to these school Rob Van Vander Song. Just remembering that Bahrain. Ah just walking back as they scored on his goal is he who foster schooled off the name. Crucial Hara tough tough question. I see a goalkeeper bad with this feet scoring in my head. I can't remember who that was always soon. School Denison ignored you feel his muscles bigger. So right we go tim. How is Michael? Cool Robinson Addison Alison Incorrect. Charcoal team cancerous. Deal you guys. And he says your personality is against boats in Tim. Howard Dean Robinson tonight. I think Sullivan that rings. A bell was one recently when the last seven years where it was after about ten seconds of the game. I think it was either at Stoke or South. Harrison was the ultimate rich sunlight that got scored on a got. He got the ball back from the kick-off or something bit boot to destroy away. Went sailed way. Grenade sounds plausible feasible now delayed or more. So if so robot rinse visit shop the rubbings about fluid Howard Schmeichal Bartsch Sullivan Robinson. You'd be wrong about John. Hart did Joe Heartsore One West Ham scoring. I heard about it if you did tim. Flowers Yeah but Blah remembrance going go up Blackburn now clean near the drove his car into a pool again. Go for that on lot. Five when I push Michael. Hasn't he also now? He's scored is going the championship in the Prem. I can remember but he did sign a shirt for for Orlando. I'm to from that. One is gets Yeovilton. It's Robinson Neil Sullivan. An Arctic orage teams. Got Three correct. The nominating autocorrect Thompson speech. Michael Full Robinson Tim. Howard Brad Friedel. I think the one that you might be thinking about honor all baggage not own. America goalkeepers all right by the way just because Americans we question round two two team. Gb there talking of unwanted records as we work latches gets a crush Wednesday county in two thousand seven eight record fewest points in the primary season. How many points did they went? Eleven Yup Angels Yup Yup correct to point of Rainbow in easy question. We got signed goal is number. You actually got three goalkeepers you didn't get five nine yet allowance number of points for every scene that was ever a relegated to the quizmaster is neutral on down the middle. He started being a UP. What was the chances of USA? Get into eleven points it or they're going to fight the regular reason because often around to the points right now off team. Gb Ten team USA full one young team. We come back because I need no one to close my laptop. Needs TO GET ONE QUESTION. Rod Thing Twenty years ago right when I loved him team. Usa now wrong now sought goes down story turn point. He's t GP cry. 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We were quite the whole culture. Lessen the outside British go on final answer was British. Beck's Iraq yes members. Now we'll play seems wholly Obama. Mathematically safe lots not over yet okay. I'm being told on not supposed to give the explanation at the bulk of about so unjustified to give you the name question to team Ruben Ruben. Kyle is this American origin bench superglue. That's so American. The American Yeah American night sleep the glue. Everything super do Great Glue. Windy which should be great. Great we also we also a lot of things. I wouldn't right which call it glue to get this wrong. Then you offered it wars. We've got a chance to get a point. Round is buried. Close that what you're saying could be Americans have we're GONNA. We'RE GONNA go to be jolly good when functional functional blue but we don't like to brag about. This has written all over it. You say bax corrective soon question. Three Seiji not stop over's arlo. No one knows what those that was. 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Talking As and Giants at the All-Star Break

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Talking As and Giants at the All-Star Break

"I'm joe garagiola from it's all political. I'm trying to interview every democrat running for president but that would take years. That's okay. We have a ton of great stuff to talk about. Listen wherever you get your podcast because it's all political hello and welcome to join edition of the ace plus and giants splash podcasts. I'm henry schulman. The giants beat reporter for the san francisco chronicle and chronicle speechwriter seasons lesser thank you susan isn welcome well. We've reached the all star break of the twenty nine thousand nine season and we have two teams that find themselves in entirely different places now the listener seemed to enjoy joy the joint podcast we did from the winter meetings back in december so we thought we would do another one and talk about the giants and as at the mid-season point in in this a special episode and we will get started right after this hi greg thomas travel editor at the san from cisco chronicle and host of the wild west podcast if you like getting into the outdoors and exploring california wild west is a great listen tune into here exclusive interviews with the world's top adventure venture athletes like rock climber alex hahn old who came on to talk through his incredible free solo climbing el capitan in yosemite big part of the film is like the whole love story with my girlfriend and all that but i hadn't even met her when we started listening wherever you get your podcasts wild west henry shine back here with susan's plus around the joint as plus and giant splash podcasts and susan one thing. I noticed that's funny. We're recording a couple of days actually before the break and and i noticed that at this point the as are exactly nine games over five hundred the giants are exactly nine games over five hundred so we got some pretty good symmetry going under five hundred. They're for the giants. What did i say did. I say you're thinking. I know that brands are ninety. S yeah the giants the doctor nine games under five hundred the as nine games over and this were off to a roaring start but the israeli i wanna start it off with the age because he as have been playing good ball. I saw a couple of games when i filled in for you against the raise not too long ago and i can see that the the age of made quite a push here in the last three weeks or so what's going on there. Were a lot is the starting pitching which we never would have guessed at the beginning of the season. You probably remember internet's far back as the winter meetings when we were talking to really felt like they needed starting pitching. They'd you know they brought mike fires back after non tendering him and they're bringing in marco estrada who's been a non factor because of a back injury in that's pretty much it you know they. They resigned brett anderson. He's terrific. <hes> we'll sat okay andrew jackson jackson. They've got him back. He's going to be a factor. They let him go so it's really been kind of a piecemeal rotation a little bit like last year mike fires and a bunch of other guys and they've come on really strong especially you know in the wake of frankie montage who had been there elise he can get suspended for eighty games. The rest of the rotation mutations just carried right on as you know nothing had happened than and they're just find your way for the rotation is right around three three to three something like that that they've given up to once or less seventeen times in the last twenty three games. They're rural area that they're really strengthen team. I never would have guessed that and of course the flip side is the bullpen has been the problem and we never would have guessed that even though of course i think everyone knows bullpens are very hard to project from year to year to year going from a sort of a record setting bullpen last share to really a tough one this year. I don't think anyone saw that coming. I was actually <hes> there. The day that montage got suspended suspended <hes>. I covered that game for you. While the day i covered the game that he pitched and then i covered the day after and that's one of those things that you think right your first impression impression is that that is going to be a killer and i made this point to some sommes folks back then that in twenty twelve the giants lost milky cabrera brera to that suspension <hes> to the drug suspension for the rest of the season and it happened with six weeks left to go in the season and the giants were sort of middle of the pack right dan and they held a meeting after that meeting and they just sort of decided that we can win this thing without milky cabrera. We're we're good enough to win without <unk> out amp so we're all just gonna come together. You know the whole next man up thing i heard the term next man up a whole bunch of times with the as <hes> and and it really seems to have come together and it's just weird how that works baseball isn't it has had a similar situation in two thousand twelve with bartolo cologne and at the same time they also lost brandon raina mccarthy hit in the head by line drive. They had a couple of other injuries in the rotation. <hes> they brought up a bunch of kids dan strongly in griffin and then guys like fat in a kind of sailed right into the postseason even without them so <hes> it can be done <hes> and right now the guys stepping up the one that we'll get to the giants pomace giants listeners <unk> conroe bummer for the latest was they were expecting to get hey seuss lazardo into the rotation he was going to be right after the all star break no doubt about that <hes> and now he's. He's got a latte strain. I'm starting to wonder if we will see him this year but you know these are looking at like that's almost making a trade right you bring in a lights out lefty atop on prospect respect the game a right around mid season that could be a big lift for a team and now i think they'll be get lucky if they get him back in late august or early september <hes> and <hes> that that's <hes> potentially changes the dynamics a little bit but sean might be back sometime in in about a month or so so that so that's good but <hes> yeah it's. It's been a strange s._a._c. associate. You just never know what pitchers injuries. There's weird stuff suspensions. You don't wanna see from your a pseudo. Montage was looked like he was going to be the as all star and now he's on but the years selena showing some fortitude here now. Do you have to tell me what's going on with the giants because i have not had to fill in for you on the giants yet. All i really know from across the bay as they struggled to score. The score runs <hes> and they've got some interesting guys who might be available via trade so i think that <hes> you know in the next month or so we might be talking about. Maybe the the as looking at some of those those guys over there interesting guys in trade <hes>. I never really thought about that yeah. Well you know the giants. We really had a funny any week here. <hes> just before the all star break the giants just all of a sudden <hes> went on a four game hitting rampage. They beat the diamondbacks at home. In the last game of the last one standing they went down to san diego where they've never really played well and <hes> they just they just want the padres. They ended up scoring <hes>. I believe it was forty. Four thirty runs in four games and and now i've got people on my twitter timeline going. Hey you know what we're only six and a half out now. Do you think that maybe maybe <hes> we'll we'll be buyers at the deadline instead of sellers at the deadline and i you know i have to go hold your horses a little bit <hes> so i mean the giants definitely are hitting better. The giants are definitely becoming more interesting team to watch alex dickerson who came over from the padres has really been a shot in the arm. <hes> they pitched a lot better in june than they did. In in may and april or may specifically they actually had a winning june crazily enough but but <hes> you know the giants are still the giants is still struggling and they they came home from that <hes> that great three-game sweep of the padres and <hes> they they got they got beat nine to four yesterday by the cardinals in the in the first game of the homestand so yeah you look at the numbers six games out six and a half of the wildcard but you look like every team in the league is ahead of them in the standings accept the the marlins and believe it or not the mets <hes> so that brings us. You know what we talked about at the trade deadline just like you alluded. The two giants really have to be sellers. I would think i mean unless unless they really think they can win next year and they wanna sign some of these guys to extensions. They have a left-hander left hander by the name of madison bumgarner <hes> they have a left handed reliever by the name of will smith who <hes> has not blown a save twenty to twenty two as <hes> as i say this. They've got a couple of other pieces and <hes> you know we've been talking. I think you and i've actually talked about this. At the winter. Meetings susan the the prospect that the giants szenes could actually do a trade now that <hes> you have a far hans zaidi <hes> the former as front office executives running. The giants sees still. I'm very close with david and all those guys could you imagine the as <hes> actually making a run for madison bumgarner inward. I can't yeah i think it's a little bit of a long shot have not made a major deal for a starting pitcher. Since two thousand fourteen remember how that went and it was great the john leicester deal. Maybe a little less so bumgarner got at least intrigued given their needs given the montage suspension. <hes> the fact that far han on is over there <hes> i. I kinda like it a plus. We all know that madison bumgarner cubs with that sort of ferocity on the mount. You know he's a leader he's done it. He's been there. He's a competitor. I think he could fit in very well. <hes> didn't even have to move so that would be nice for him but <hes> large. It'll be tough yeah. It's funny because a lot of the players actually a lotta giants players actually live out in contrast but i don't think he's one of them. Go imagine if they traded. Somebody who lives in contra costa could actually shorten his commute. <hes> you know i think i think i know what you're saying. I mean the as modus operandi has has really been <hes> if you'll pardon my latin attempt of their m._o. Hey there you know the the the m._o. Is really the most of the bullpen we saw what they did. Last year with all these all all these big time arms they brought in for the bullpen you think maybe will smith could actually be a more realistic target for the as well i think hendrix emergence urgence and now he's a an american league all stars of yesterday. I think that probably limits that possibility. I think these are committed now to hendrix's the closer. It's not him it goes back to china who is as everyone knows as we struggled this year but what he did last year <hes> gives him certainly at least a little bit of a benefit of the doubt if the word have have a need there <hes> and i think hendrix becoming the closer and training trevino being sort of seventh eighth inning guys that goes back to being a little bit it <hes> you know sort of a better situation laid out seventh eighth ninth they they know their roles et cetera <hes>. I still think yours look. I don't think they need to spend big. Give up you know a major prospect for a bullpen arm. I think they'll look for you. Know maybe a left-hander hander. That's probably the biggest need not closer but maybe a situational lefty <hes> and not have to spend the farm to do it. Yeah you know wilson the i mean he he's a lefty. You can get righties out as he shown throughout his season. Here's the giants closer but i mean i think that far on views bumgarner and as smith as a couple of good ships and you know they're both free agents at the end of the year so that always kind of raises the eyebrows of any acquiring bring team <hes> but you know there's so many teams out there who are like in the a situation and who knows by the time you're listening to this podcast the as actually could be in the second or even i think even the first wildcard right back in the first wildcard spot yeah so <hes> you know you never know i mean lean a and i and i see that <hes> you know about i don't know six and a half something like that behind the astros and <hes> you just wonder if they might be might feel all that i mean they might wanna make a run at the division. I mean you think that's possible and and the reason i asked for the giants perspective. <hes> is <hes> i mean we looked at the age of had a couple of wild card games. That haven't worked out well. <hes> you need that one pitcher to go in there and pitch <hes> pitch that wildcard game <hes> and you just wonder if <hes> i mean you think they might want to <hes> you think they have at shot at going to the division. I would love it. You know the astros are so loaded. I think realistically realistically the as look at the at the astros in their roster and <hes> and think that's going to be tough. It's not comparable. The <unk> are the best team on paper in the league really to my mind. I mean obviously the yankees and the red sox have some very very good rosters also but the the astros are really setup for a nice run to the regular season and in the postseason but yeah sure everybody you know these have had terrible experiences in in the two cards. They've been in the so they would love to win the division. It just would be a a big hall. You know this is why you know again. In two thousand fourteen the os made the moose marga and jason hammel and <hes> obviously john lester for the postseason especially lester and that didn't that didn't work out so you know there's there's no guarantees that was allowed wind up winds up being a wildcard situation to and they've been have the guy on the mound they want in leicester and it doesn't work out there would have been really well set i think in in a wildcard situation with frankie montas so yeah garner is much more of that kind of guy and has the track record. Nobody abated dr. Mike fires has been pitching a couple other guys. You know if luzardo was available in pitching well sean and i am. Maybe i might feel okay. It's going down the cost. That's what it's gonna be wants to cut his buddies a little bit of a break you know unknown. It doesn't cost them sit. You know really top-flight prospector factor to consider it and yeah well. That's a good transition into a far hunt and bumgarner so <hes>. I don't know that he's going to give bumgarner way. Even though he is a rental this is one of those situations where <hes> the giants could hold onto bumgarner are and if they don't get at least if they don't get at least the equivalent of the first round type prospect they could hold onto bumgarner and give them the qualifying offer for which will be about eighteen million which i think he would be worth giving the way he's pitching lately <hes> and then just take the drastic now. You can't do that with a will smith or a kevin pilaro lar- of you know anybody else like that. You might trade. It's funny that you mentioned some arja gets a good transition as well into the giants rotation. <hes> in the giants rotation tation has just <hes> you talk about the the giants at the first half that's been story because they really haven't been as good as one would have hoped hoped i think going into the season. The feeling was that the giants would struggle the hits <hes>. I think that's what the front office new but they're struggled. A pitch really has has been a little bit surprising. Bumgarner was not exactly bumgarner and if you look at as you know this old old school stats <hes> you know they're they're not as good as you as you. You might as the old days <hes> some arja just has really never gotten it together although he's pitched better lately and i think one of the stories of the the giants ci- first half is that they've really given to youngsters tyler beatty and sean anderson an opportunity and as you susan when you're when you're in a situation where you're not gonna win and you're going to start a rebuild or you know. Even if it's short term rebuilder a long-term rebuild the progress as measured by how much a you're young players can actually <hes> get into the big league roster and actually contribute and apt. I think the giants have a keeper sean anderson. He was acquired in the the two thousand seventeen deadline deal for for nunez and immediate twenty four twenty fourteen first round draft pick has finally started to show signs that he could be a contributor at the age of twenty six and <hes>. You know there's a pitcher. <hes> you know very well. I think he was in the as rotation drew. Pomeranz who has just not has just not cut it for the giants. Another guy you know well is a pat vendetta which pitcher <hes> he's really been in the minor leagues for all but the whole season and then derek holland was resigned for seven million dollars lurs and now he's a long reliever and the reason i brought those three guys up. Derek holland drew pomeranz n._p._r. Affinity were the only three major league free agents insofar hans signed <hes> and <hes> they they've all underperformed and i think that's the story of the first half although he's brought in a bunch of of other guys <hes> in in maybe some subordinate roles <hes> that that have done really well <hes> it may i you know far far han. Maybe a little bit better than hi do up. What what do you what do you think personality wise as he's gone and come into this situation. He's he's made a few signings that that haven't worked well l. and <hes> you know now all all of a sudden <hes> you know he he he's had to scramble a little bit forty three players on the giants roster. I blew a forty four players on the giants roster in the first half you you know far on. I know you don't know what's going through his head right now but personality wise. What would you say well. He's going to take the long view there but he also likes to tinker. Are you know his brain is really active. I don't wanna say he gets bored easily. It's not like he's just you know kind of may making moves for fun or anything like that. I think everything's done <hes> with sort of a long term view but i think incremental moves are the way the as tend to get better. You know obviously they don't half the big payroll will they can just go out and buy pieces or <hes> in the giants farm system might not allow that the giants go out and make some big trades in you know in terms of getting better but i think he was going to look at this trade deadline. I think very much as what is going to do down the line and i think this is where we we're gonna see. I think what he brings to the giants because i think you're right i think i don't think he's just going to go out and necessarily move madison bumgarner just to move them <hes>. It's gotta make sense so that's that's going to be really really fascinating. You know we've talked about will smith. I shouldn't just dismiss will smith out of hand because he as havoc closer at remember last year the as did did bring in two closers in your familia and fernando rodney so it's not out of the question entirely <hes> but i think those moose i went far <unk>. That's where you're going to see in the meantime. It's going to be little incremental things and sometimes a little incremental things you know because they don't cost you. A lot aren't going to necessarily do much didn't enter potentially are what we're talking about. Now it not not as high as had been hoped yeah i keep bringing up alex dickerson but here's a guy who's a two plus player and they got him for basically nothing and <hes> if he stays on the field i mean this is a guy who's got some sock from the left side said that <hes> that <hes> beyond the giants really don't have branded belt. <hes> really has not been the powerforce that that he has been in the past. He's he's done a great job of getting on base but he's actually been there. Leadoff hitter against a right handed hitching lately an emmy that that's me maybe the consummate far far hunt zaidi move <hes> looking for undervalued players who can help you down the line. They're more of lottery tickets and really that's what moneyball was all about outright and maybe he talks about on base percentage in an analytical staff but really moneyball was just about finding undervalued assets in baseball the way you would find an undervalued stock doc in by it and and hope it goes up right and yeah and if you do enough of those you know and they're not costing you much and you sift through them <hes> two thousand and twelve with the as as is the perfect example. I think everyone knows that farhan was responsible for the as adding brandon moss <hes> brandon moss comes up in may and winds up being one of the top homerun hitters that year in and really key piece in that drive to the postseason in two thousand twelve but you know in in spring training he was just one of you know six or seven minor league free agents and they brought in a bunch that that the metrics with the as they thought hey we hit on one of these guys. They hit on a couple of them. One of them was mafia had a huge season. The amy's before last season made a very under the radar minor league move to get ramon. Laureano laureano is now looking like one of the better are young outfielders in baseball and that was exactly what we're talking about the as look to the system that had tons of outfielders and picked off one they thought had a a big up potential upside but who had underperformed the previous year. Those are the sorts of things you're gonna see far hunting and you make you make enough of those. You can wind up with some some very useful player. She adds three or four useful players that way. You suddenly got yourself. Maybe a pretty decent roster and with the draft as well and i got i got to say right off the bat add that <unk> bobby evans <hes> last draft with the giants last couple drafts were much better after after he and john barr had some support graphs now you're looking at joey barton elliott roms in the miners who are both could be coming fast <hes> they have a pitcher named sean shelly us six eleven. I think he'll be tied for the biggest biggest pitcher in the majors when he gets up here and you know that he signed some international prospects that's wanting the as have done a lot better than the giants the international prospects <hes> they got marco luciana ziana <unk> michael luciano from that mannequin alex canario and some others and i think that far han had a draft this past year which was interesting to us <hes>. I don't know if this ever if this was his modus operandi again my poor latin with the as but <hes> you know the giants did it draft for need with the very first tick in a very hitting oriented draft they got power hitting left handed outfielder in hundred bishops from arizona state but a a lot of the other <hes> picks giants made were just basically trying to boost up the middle talent just to get the best athletes you can catch your second base shortstop center field and and then did it again during the during the international signing period so i mean i mean you recall. Is that something is that like a billion. I'm dave force thing too where you just you just see them. Maybe not go after the best athlete available at particular positions but just try and you know <hes>. Is that a big thing the whole up the middle thing. I think that's one of the reasons he is drafted cuyler mary i last year you know best. They thought he was the best available athlete in the draft it and as it turns out he definitely was right and you'll be touchdowns for the as pretty soon well not so yeah i think that's very much the as <hes> as have been doing the last couple of years <hes> the you know they used to go out and get somebody say like a cliff pennington with a high draft pick a solid college <hes> infielder but not necessarily the most overall tools he kinda guy now that i think they are really emphasizing athleticism <hes> and they've been doing a lot with the international draft the international draft they overspent a couple of years ago to get last reto armenteros coming up through the system and he's now at stockton <hes> looks it's like he could potentially have a decent features a big leaguer <hes> and they were then sort of under limitation spending limitations last year this year they were back to that are full spending amount in a made one of the biggest splashes in the international a signing period with getting robert poussin who is <hes>. I think people oh might remember a couple of years ago. The braves got reprimanded for some irregularities swith international prospects. He was one of them. He was fourteen eighteen at the time he's now six award a sixteen year old shortstop in in the as a signed him to a deal over five million so i think the the as are very much focused focus now on international waters and have been scouting at very well and i think doing a really nice job there. They're not afraid to go to go big and make big splashes flashes there and it's you're exactly right. It is the athletes of the middle shortstops center fielders in particular that the ace have been focused on yeah you ah this is interesting. I mean this. I mean i didn't really have a preconceived notion of what we're going to talk about but you know talking to you for the perspective of somebody who has known far han from baseball sense. It's a lot longer than i have. I've known him personally for a long time. <hes> this is this is quite interesting and i do think that the giants <hes> it's not going to happen happen this year. I i really think that the the giants still don't have these guys really at triple a. except for i mean they have some guys that aaa that i hope we will see by the end of the year and maybe <hes> you know we can wrap this up here by talking a little bit about what we expect to see <hes> in the second half as we move forward word on militant divided up into two sections i think trades and and <hes> otherwise and i think just from a trade standpoint we've alluded to it. The giants <music> are i think are going to try to get value for their two biggest pieces will smith and <hes> madison bumgarner. I think they're also going to try and move some lesser pieces pieces to give some organizational depth. They have some guys <hes> who <hes> we've talked about it in the giants context on my podcast and in my stories and on social you'll media you have guys that you have other to other relievers tony watson and sam dyson who i think are going to be very much coveted. <hes> you have kevin polara are who you've seen a lot of the american league in and he came here and i mean he's not a great hitter statistics wise but <hes> he all of a sudden has become a one of the best <hes> run producers the giants. Have you have joe panic. Who's not had a good year. All of a sudden you have stephen vote a guy you know extraordinarily ordinary well it would be a great clubhouse guy on and <hes> you know so i think you're gonna see a lot of activity trade wise <hes> i think i think that <hes> if if they could actually swing a bigger deal for pieces down <unk> down the road involving some of their own controllable players i think they do it but i don't know that you're going to see that that kind of deal in july and then from the non-trade perspective giants wise <hes>. I think that <hes> i i would hope to see what i think. The fans would hope to see issued a lot of veteran players who who are under performing now and i and i talk about drew pomeranz up as an example marlon in the bullpen joe panic manic in the infield who was a world series. <hes> twenty fourteen world series ring bear. I think what we'd like to see. Maybe is that some of the backups and some of the guys who might be able to help the giants in the future given more playing time. Maybe they call up connor menez for the rotation. Maybe they give donovan. Solano more starts at second base <hes>. Maybe they even they break. I mean they just brought up austin slater. <hes> one of your stanford folk <hes> with he said with derision. It's one of those stanford folks who come up and <hes> you know done a real good job in a short period of time and i and i think that you know maybe <hes> maybe it could be a situation where we just see a little bit more of the future to give the fans a little bit more hope for twenty nineteen <hes> even though the the giants aren't gonna win. They're still going to have to sell tickets in the winter so <hes>. Why don't we turn this to the as and let me just ask you first of all trade trade deadline. What should we expect well. I do think that bullpen is going to be the the thrust <hes>. I wouldn't rule out a starter. They don't have any need for position players. <hes> they're they're. They're pretty well set there. <hes> catch catcher who is kind of the the weak spot earlier in the season in a big question mark and and right now they have four pretty decent options they're and and when nikki haley comes off the i l. They're going to have to make a decision because three of them are out of options so yes. I think we'll probably likely likely see a left handed. Reliever added the guy. I would really like to see harry will smith would be great if they could do it without giving up too much but the guy would really love to sean too little might be might be a little bit of personal bias there who who doesn't want the best talkers in the game back back in the bullpen breads yeah. I think that's that's probably probably gonna do the extent of it and it worked. It worked very well for them. Last year i see maybe the same script this year yeah so that's interesting lead the giants could actually really be more active but that's really a a symbol of of how how well the as are put together before. I ask you about the other part of the second half. I did wanna mention. I kind looked up just to be prepared to talk to you and i saw that the giants is a team or hitting two forty. Seven isn't that chris davis magic number. This christova says magic number and what we should talk talk a little bit about chris. Davis talk about he. Obviously he's been extraordinary for the ace for more than three years now plus the haiti to forty seven four years in a row which is insane he goes off. There's no doubt about it you know since he ran into the wall making a really really terrific catching and emphasize that because he gets dinged for his defense. I think a little bit unnecessarily. He's not about outfielder to see arm makes a great catch goes into the crowd bangs his side. He has not been the same since since then utterly spent a stint on the i l. <hes> and i think he feels a little bit better but i don't know if he's pressing <hes> or or if he's just out of sorts or something maybe is still a an issue there with his you know the oblique the hip the side whatever that's certainly as people know from from a power hitter you're generating power absolutes work and when there's something going on their hip side oblique anywhere in there. It's gonna make it a little more difficult. <hes> i suspect i am not a doctor that maybe there's something to do with that or maybe it's just that he is trying so hard he has not homered <hes> since the eighteenth <hes> he's he's just got a couple since the injury and he looks out of sorts. You know he's still contributing. He's drove in a run <hes> the first game in seattle. He's he's <hes> especially. When there's runners on base you know he's picking up hits here in there and <hes> he's important to the teenager still winning despite the fact that he's not showing a lot of power which i think is <hes> very encouraging but they are going to need him to be the guy they expect him to be in the second second half and is there another. Is there another option for d. h. If they wanted to arrest him a little more out not really <hes> you know that could that could work works some of their other <hes> other regulars in there on occasion but especially stephen piscotty out for probably a good month <hes> that is you know that's good. They need me chris davis to chris davis and he's just not right now and i can tell you what's going on he. He's he's just out of sorts. He's off. I don't think he could tell you what's going on whether it's pressing or or maybe something physical or or mechanical so yeah that's that's i think becoming potentially growing concern. It's bean gene. You know a little bit background because they've been winning yeah. Well you know if the red sox fall out of it. There's always j._t. Martin okay no. I won't go there so throw yeah just to conclude <hes> what are you looking for in the second half just in general generalities as to what they need to have a second half much like they had last year they need to keep winning series which they've i've been doing hair for about a month <hes> and that's exactly <hes> the way they did things last year. They need chris davis to be christova stickered at a little bit in the bullpen open and the rotation which has been. I think maybe overperforming give it given expectations. They're going to have to keep keep doing that and hope to get guys guys like manila and lazardo into an you know what what the bullpen at some point eight days might be adding a j puck in cotton which will be interesting so they might even look at it. It is like we don't have to go out and do anything super splashy from bullpen standpoint because we could have a big <unk> dominating lefty a._j. Puck thrown in indian or two here and there and <hes> you know a a right hander with a nasty little change up coming out of the bullpen okay well. <hes> i think that <hes> i think it's fair to say that nine games games over five hundred <hes> it's good at this point and they probably will need to be a little better than app to to make the playoffs. I think the giants if they could somehow get to five hundred rid by the end of the season <hes> after they potentially trade <hes> madison bumgarner and will smith it would be considered a great success <hes> i think i believe i believe there are people who watch both teams and i've i've heard from some of them so i think it will be a fascinating second half for both teams and susan. I want to thank you for joining me on this joint podcast and maybe we'll do it again. After the trade i a good idea. Maybe i think we might be talking during the trade deadline. I think yeah yeah that's true. That's true we'll. We'll have keep the dialogue going out of the epic all right. Thank you susan. Thank you for listening. You know susan then. I will have a lot more podcasts as we move into the second half as plus part of the san francisco chronicle podcast network drea. Cooper is the editor in chief. If you like at this show we'd love it if you'd subscribe to wherever you get your podcast and if you've got a minute to give us a quick review that helps us build our audience so we can keep growing follow me on twitter <music> at susan's lesser support as plus and a lot of great journalism with a subscription to the san francisco chronicle. There are print and digital editions find find out more at san francisco chronicle dot com slash subscribe.

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11: Angelica Carrillo, Mexico - Queen Park Rangers, UK

Far Away Fan

49:28 min | 1 year ago

11: Angelica Carrillo, Mexico - Queen Park Rangers, UK

"I'm Jessica I'm from Mexico City and then crazy QPR supporter. I health everything is good I'm glad to be speaking to you. Great me too. I know we had some concerns about the time difference, but thanks for accommodating me now. Thanks to you because they know it's quite lay over there. It's going to bed. wilted in. Mental. Things mixing. Good. Things are quite crazy. You know because. We're still in lockdown and or numbers on coronavirus are going up but you know many people have to go back to work last week so things are going back to normal slowly, but hopefully will get better soon. Well apart from the okay. It's been raining a lot which is quite unusual for us. It's OK okay okay. The last time we spoke you said that you were going to start working this week or trend get up. Yeah. Yeah. I'm back to work I've made some of my students last week needless good. It was weird. You know we are doing it online. So it's so it's never the same well I think it's been quite good and until now so I'm we're starting anew some new courses next week it's going to be a lot of work but I think it's GonNa be good. Just. Want everyone listening what it is that you do. Oh Yeah I'm a I'm a university professor used to say I'm I'm a teacher. That's what I do. I teach film analysis the signing ovation journalism. Citing the recipe. Yeah. You told me that you love it. Yeah Yeah It's it's a marvelous work you know What can with steel into a privilege gets There's have you know euro with learning it doesn't matter if you're the teacher of the student. So it's a it's a great profession and my students are great. Sometimes Sometimes, we have our difficulties of course but it's. I really enjoy it. Yes. And delicate for this podcast I'm GonNa Start with the most important question. How and why Juliette? it's actually quite funny because I have a little friends from the UK mostly from the north of England and. They support Manchester United and whole city and Liverpool and that I logo stamps that I have to say that I, I love the Premier League and all the English team sexually except Chelsea of course. But I will with me and bury from. London Kiss. It's marvelous. thity. I've been there five times I think on the I was. Trying to find a London team too. But it was never going to be Chelsea art analyst. I been very fond of them or like I like them in the wake West. No way full him I mean I was just not happy with any of them. So I read on a on a magazine that Robert Smith from the cure was QPR's supporter. And I have no idea whatsoever what QPR was. I was like the what's this team I? Mean it didn't. It was like a berries more team to me. So I asked my that if he knew something about them my dad was a very big fan of Liverpool and he loves football. I. Mean. Football around the world I really love this. So he told me that he knew what Qbr. Walser say it's Queens Park Rangers and he told me that A player he used to follow from Northern Ireland. Alan McDonald used to play there and he told me that he actually sold him at a thirty six world cup. Play an ING weather Lahara. So was quite weird because it was like you know he's really good player. So I, started to Luke the history of QPR, and he'd was like a very long. Club you know. Wolf founded in I it has to be eighteen hundred something like that. So and they never won anything. You know the the history is like maybe they were on the qualifiers of the FA Cup they won the lake one time. It was really odd because they wasn't big winners. and that kind of appeal to me. It was like, okay. Probably many people love them. I was really wrong about that. so I say, okay, I'm going to I'm going to support this club. It's GonNa be Weird enough because I'm never gonNA be able to see them play and they're not gonNA be on television. So it's going to be really really frustrating but I'm going to try it so I decided to to start to follow them and. This was like twelve years ago. That's when time So but yeah, that's how it started actually. It's fantastic because. It's quite weird especially when there's a theme that you the new share language use ensured the location. You know it's quite difficult. So I will fill him berry alone being the QPR support in Mexico his actually none of my friends knew them was like or what's Qbr? There most of them are interchangeable world the you know the team was too small for them. And I started to Luke to some fans around the world and I discover Acute Pr Post Open Lars Nice started to listen to it and. Actually the the reason why the first reason an the life felt part of the family of the cure family. Yes. Listen to them. I wasn't able to watch the Games but I will listen into them with a low of freshen token about the team and I was like, wow, I've wanted to be like them one day. Sullenly and we started to to catch more primarily games around here in Mexico on the when when they when they went up in two thousand eleven I was able to watch a few games on television it was A big thing for me because I was very excited about it and when we went down to a relocation, it was like Oh, my God, I'm never going to see them again was depressed. And everybody Safeway. Okay. This showmanship is fantastic. You know you can law that it's okay and it was like, yeah but I'm GONNA be able to say to see them. So so I went I was quite a sad but then I discovered that could watch them overseas. So now I do it every every week so I'm happy about. What's the Games now? 'cause the. Cotin Hasek something called the up close bots. So it's a strip shen and you can watch it online it's marble sexually. I'd say like I'm there. So I'm really grateful for that. Because I didn't knew existed actually my friend Allen who is a reporter from Northern Ireland? He was the one who told me that this assist domain I think it's quite expensive. Well, it's worth it because you're going to be able to watch every game. So I listened to him and I did it. Is Great I. Wish we could get the championship. We don't get it. You know I think in Mexico, we might have a a couple of games of through skype. Okay. Just a couple of games so not not many of them. I love how competitive the championships every week the table just shuffles completely it's not like the primarily. There are no large gaps week on week. You don't know who's going to be there and amazing. I love it. said in the first time, I will bury worried about. You know I'll go into the championship relegation is always dramatic and all that. BULB TO BE FIREARM. Koi Happy with the championship because as you say, it's quite competitive on all the teams are in a very similar position you know with. With the same level. So it's quite fun to watch the Games. So Yep, even so I think. While watching. QPR's quite frustrating sometimes about. All the championship. Really it really is fantastic. So so yeah, I enjoy us. History of the club. Did you end up spending a Lotta time researching it? Yeah. Actually. I. Think this is GonNa sound like I'm a really crazy girl goes. When and one Tony Fernandez was to the team as a chairman they may have distinct goal the four year plan that he was the for your plan to take the team to to the primly. UNTO, you know support them financially and the laptop and they release DVD. I D The rest delight got DVD and watch it and I watch it all the time because you know it's How this team? Was Struggling With money with you know scandals from old. And suddenly became very strong and they came to the premier. League and while Tony Fernandes was like a hero to all of us with QPR. Things personal decision now. But I. Know It was like a like a story of a team that was really struggling. Well. The came very strong and that's that's amazing. I know I mean. Seems like Liverpool, castleberry amazing stories will keep your husband too. So so yeah, I'm quite happy to go. Through researching about the story of the history of the club. Of being able to develop a you know. This crazy love for the team. So so yeah, I really enjoy it and I tried to read this much like on about them and all that. I'm actually the oldest memory has to be the eighty six World Cup I was just two years old but I remember quite well, that was just wearing nappy. Immersing but just wearing the nappy on my mom used to put me in front of the television to watch the Games because My Dad was traveling a lot because work we're leaving in this southeast of Mexico place gold Morita and she put me in front of television. So I could watch the Games because my dad might be in the game because he was able to watch a menu of Mexico Games during that workup. And I remember just standing there knowing what was happening both people shouting of the name of A. Player that became very famous that it's Sanchez. So they used to shout Google and I was like very happy because. He was on on screen. So I think that's my first memory, and since then I've never been able to watch him football men or have been into football all my life when I was accused was the little girl that was a writing all the statics about the the game. What's crazy but I think twinkie I found some comfort on football says he was like every time you support the team, you have community so it will wear a special because. You know I will seem to reading an into films and into literature and all that kind of things when I was a kid and there was a bit weird but the full was something that kept me close to people. So so yeah, that's that's why I love it so much. So the League, it's quite crazing We have a teams with a lot of money they're able to buy players from France and all that they have an infrastructure that it's amazing and we have smaller teams. Now the arnold able to do that. But the League is competitive I. Think it has a very nice level We just started again last week since go with. It's just going well, no. Actually, we have a scandal F- one of the owners of the. Teams. It's going to prosecution because of some money issues. So yeah. Football's kind of thing in Mexico. You know a lot of money it's going on. So so yeah. It's it's a goodly I enjoy it. It's it's not as good as this championship I, enjoy it. I. Watched on Netflix CDs with the Maradona in. Mexico. Have you seen that? Yeah is it always that crazy or is it just because of Maradona? I think it was just because of Madonna goes his very loved in Mexico his you know like I don't know if he's even bigger bigger than Pele. To Mexicans but Marlowe nights like an idol so So. Yeah. When he came to work with. It well, you know everybody waits absolutely crazy. So yes, probably was because. To, who is your club legend at definitely McDonald. Because I've I've seen him play in tape you know. Obviously, not life and he will from stick wasn't absolutely great player and he did a lot for the team and definitely allow McDonnell is my. My Club legend. Thought. To be fair I have to say that stumbles also has a very. Important. Place in my heart a actually soul stand the first time that I went to seek you pr live of look to throw the wolves during stumbled game. So it was fantastic to see how everybody on the club loves him out so much the family has been so close to a team all this time. So so yet our mcglone alums thunderbolts, I have to say that they're absolute leads to me and even if I if I get to see them play and if even if they are from another era, you know and of course, I love the same because of Alamodome also I wouldn't say any their name I'm quite obsessed with it. And I also have a very. Very. True. Love and the love to the players that I started to watch in two thousand and eleven. Hill. has a very, very special place in my heart his Liverpool and I adore him on the he. He's always been very nice with Pr. Hundred. Four lane from Argentina. He's a fantastic man I don't know I I. Love Them. We'll go. To blue feel deserves a bit praise or the dame of the up. That's actually a very difficult question because QPR funds her quite fair with their players but. I would say probably Jamie. Because he was fantastic but he never got the. Legend vital you know and the. Think probably him but I think everybody loves him. I've never met the Cuban fund that doesn't like marquee is just that he wasn't label of him. I would say I think sculling obsolete. gave us a all effort. I mean he just left QPR here I I saw him every every my doing one hundred percent of efforts and the he will I mean sometimes who wasn't great but you can be great all the time I'm on. Yeah. He He. Got The me though harsh treatment. So so to me yet when he went away from Kupwara was very sad and very few people were saying they were a feeling bad about living and he I think he this out some other place in our team. I've never seen a player doing so much for the team on the pitch. I mean, maybe he was not a guy does the used to talk too much used to be you know on spotlight But I think he deserved better. And he's now it's underline I was reading. Yeah he is. Yeah. But I don't think he's got a chance to play he. He joined just. Generally We're. That's probably the recently is because he's very laid back. So. Probably, that's why he's not getting a chance on the team and the I think he's a great player I mean, you know sometimes the player this not just Cristiano Renaldo. No it's not. Always this big star The good players are also the ones that give old old their efforts that the gave one hundred percents. So but yeah, he has to do more noise we heard. Young players, you're looking to see moral in the. I'm definitely Ilias Chair because I think he's GonNa. To be brilliant I mean his young he fought he has very good condition his dedicated he of so I think it's GonNa be great I would say a very said to but I his going no, his going 'cause he's fantastic player so I I know that are high for him. So I think he's living QPR. Because I'M GONNA say Chelsea. And because you know it's a London thing and and if. Actually. I mean it's nothing wrong with Chelsea on the pitch I mean players and a up but. I don't know we have a lot of history with. John Terry with a big. Chelsea figure is gather beary babb history by behavior and I think he'd be are going to be able to forget that. So so yeah, I think Chelsea definitely an, but we also have arrivals on the championship and I. Think we with brand for his wisdom get along quite well. So yeah, with within London teams of its biggest rivals but the rest are okay. What is it about? Chilean, dictator. Because I think Chelsea and send organization that it's quite. You know they have a lot of money. they sometimes I'm not saying all the time, but sometimes, they have like mercenaries like players dot com. For All of US money than go out on the next season and that the team doesn't have very deep tradition or players that stay long. Of Goals from number, it's an exemption from. Has Been a great player for Chelsea and is now the coach so I think. He's respectful when. We with team old up both when when the teams. have this kind of money. You know history becomes Berry Weird, because it's all about the money another about. Fashion about the team. So I think. That's why because QPR it's about passion Chelsea it's about money I. Yes. Please Chelsea fans dome hate me. The. But that's something that I feel that is different than the championship teams. I feel. It still a rich league by most standards it's Village League but the teams are built around community and things like that, and this was something I wanted to bring up earlier as well when I was growing up in all those years, it was always loftus, right? I mean that was the stadium and it's no longer call. That is now. Now now they're Cayenne Prince Foundation. And Okay that will Very harsh debate about this because you know many of US steel goal, it love to Froth but this snow though disrespect or anything I think is just because of the tradition Cayenne free sprints from foundation was You know the the owners were looking for charity. To name the the the football ground after charity and the they actually made the bowl with the with the supporters and all of that, and the campaign fall from Dacian was the winner and I think it's very You know you know it's a very good calls. So Cayenne. Prince. Was a young man that was mortar. So they took his name to do this nation and I think that's very something very lovely to, and so we took the the name of the stadium and It's weird. I i. have to admit it. It's weird salt because we were very typically left Troth I think it's an honorable thing to do to name the the stadium institution that it's doing great work. So it's alright and nobody nobody gives you a bad luck. If you say, look to throat. So it's Ok yet but bad smell became friends foundation stadium. I. Love that. It's very noble thing to do especially when you have a team like Ukiah and generations upon generations nor does love destroyed and we sometimes get very used to holding onto these traditions I was reading about it and I think it's a wonderful thing and I think that it's a very bored move. I'm sure most people especially, some more defend would not have liked it. But at the same time I think it's a very, very noble gesture on the part of the club whereas definitely unto refer in the beginning I think men and some people were like, oh. We're going to look to throw anyways. But with most of them, most of the funds how quite happy because of just say Club is very concerned about the community and. they've gone a little grade work not just with the confrontation and you know I don't know if you heard. But when the Grenfell Tower could fire a QPR be some full bowl match on benefit of the victims of Grenfell because spoonful is quite close to to look the truth. And They were very concern them very. You know supportive of the community. So it's a fantastic seem so so yeah, I'm happy with within the name. I told you that the first time that I felt part of the family was through listening to keep your podcast open all hours. I started a great friendship with one of the guy from the book dust or full Fini. And he's from Northern Ireland to were always too small. So. It's going to England in two thousand and seventeen. So he he say, well, if you're going to be here, you have to seek you arc. So he got tickets for the for the stumbles game. It was from dusting I. Get to meet him finally in person and to me some great friends in the Allen. And Unwin became even closer because we were a good friends and so on and they say please come back soon you know this is GonNa be from tested on all that. And but after two thousand, seventeen, my life came apart. and very harshly because Man My dad was Sperry L. he was diabetic, but also in his last time he suffered from. Prostate cancer. So it was quite devastating because he will swell on one year after he will. Vary very lucky number about shape. he actually. Die Two years ago so A, very, very harsh time. was. Going to the hospital all the time. I Will Berry Berry. You know going insane with all of that. And Poll told me in other we should come to them We're GONNA find a way to make you feel better and? I want to go I don't know if I'm going to be able to with that I want to go. And suddenly I decided that I I, wanted to go. To Northern, Ireland do some shooting a short film I. Want to go to Belfast for all my life so i. decided to do it. And I am I will seem by to to a game, but this away game. Sheffield united, ground. He was great because we went on the train to suit the game we lost like we always do. A great experience and the I one with my friend Cindy who is fantastic she's a great person and when we came back pulled, ask me if I was able to go to the training ground. To the cumulus training ground. For the day I was like training ground like why? As a yeah. Sure. I mean whether it's Qbr is you know I'm GonNa. Say Yes. He told me what's what was going on? book I receive an email rely was staying in London from Paul Morrissey who was doing the QPR median old up, and then from caroline shade who was the assistance of the manager of Steve mcclaren to tell me that Steve, mcclaren was inviting me to the QPR training ground to meet the players. Now. Whilst like. What. was like, how is this possible because? As you say. In Mexico it would be impossible to me your players and to have lunch with them and all that. It's like you would never think of that. So I went to the acuity are training grant who who was quite five from what I will staying. Close. To Heathrow Airport. On my own. It was very weird. I was very nervous I. Didn't know what to do and they told me you ask for Caroline Shea. She's GonNa Take Care of you and I I came to the ground to the training ground s for Caroline and she say you are among jurors guest. So we're going to trade you like You know you're GonNa have whatever you want. You can meet all the players who can stay here as long as you want they show me the whole You know the whole stations where the local the locker rooms, all all the things that were going on there and then. Curling, told me you come here. If you have Cabrera share the whatever they're gonNA sign whatever you want they're going to be here with you and he was like Jesus absolutely crazy I was like I I give them believe he actually was like a drink on troop. To all to be too. So. Yeah. It gets me. They'll the players and I have to say I was I am particularly grateful with heroin hell who he's from. Spain. Actually we we did some Spanish token a little luck and he was pumped stick with me but Joe Lonely. And or goalkeeper I actually had lunch with him Yeah. He's a fun festive guy. So it was a really really really extraordinary day and. I was like I couldn't believe it lets you know like it was very, very strange. and. Like they're my heroes and then here with them. I will say able to just one by the way. So, you're an and they were all very, very great with me and I've met Steve mcclaren. He was very funny. It was a great guy with me. So we took a photo it was fantastic. So. It will somehow unbelievable day. And I just realized that QPR chilly dubious very. Often, because they want to keep the community growth. I remember that they emailed safe wearing biting you because you know you've been through a lot of times. So we want to make you feel better and it was like you know. Your football team is telling you that it was unbelievable. It was. Expediency Experience Life Damon. Will definitely and It was too weird because. I've miss the oral local game that was the next day but I was flying to Mexico Actually Carolina told me you know you have my phone number. So if you come back to London again, come to come to a game you know you're very welcome here so it was like these crazy absolutely crazy no other team in the world would do that. So very, very grateful with all of them will pull a Fenian with full Morrissey with Caroline Shave with Steve mcclaren of goals that he's not coach anymore but I love so. I love that and thank you for sharing that with me because You don't this is this is where. It stops being about just the game you know these these clubs and what they mean to us and how. Invested. We are in them in moments like these. When they it's, it's a long distance love for a lot of us but it moments like these. It's love that reciprocated and you're overwhelmed by IT I'm a win way by the just show everything that they do in like you said, it's something that they do quite regularly. Recommend was surprised because I tweet the pictures after after my reunion with with the guys with the team Annette everybody, all the supporters were like your partner for family. You're very welcome here. No. They're very warm people. So QPR plans on the football team mates let's take the football staff are amazing. So yes, it's I'm very proud to be a of courses before I feel quite honored to be to. even 'cause we've talked about this the same it. Happened that you're a far away funds they could say like not your another fun you know. Like who are you kidding? You're in Mexico you're you're another QBR support there but. They were very, very, very welcoming with me all of them, all the players, the staff, BA- finds all of them. So the excuse analyst. And the Cuban community across the world you know of any other fans from other countries while Yeah I know the QBR funds was his famous of Sebastiano CFM from Argentina. And Jacob tingle from Texas poll from NBC QPR. There's a little gear funds in New York. So so yeah, and I know anti from Finland and more guys from. Sweden. So yes. Yeah. The QPR community is Cresa big yeah. That's amazing. We also told me that you have a friendship with one of the band members from. Star. Yes. Yes. Just quite weird because James if you're listening to this, I'm sorry I'm a big fan of starsailor There are banned from Leeann. They used to be very big in the early two thousand. And he's the from the lead singer is Liverpool supporter his very into football. we can lead to greater monster beliefs closer to Liverpool. So many people toward Liverpool the other members of team of the Obama thing they support Mon- United and. But I. You know I've been following gains for all. Seventeen years something like that. And last year I get to make an interview with him. for a Mexican medicine 'cause they were finally come into play in Mexico City? And it was great. Chad was fantastic interview. He was very comfortable locals very happy with it. And after the the GIG, Mexico City I went to see them. So many people that are going to say, I, went to stalk them. And when when I was in front of told me, you're the girl who supports Qbr. What Esteems walls seemed Walsh's may either. He was telling me that. Like. Say Why? So it's it was quite funny and he's a great guy. He's a very down to earth guy his fantastic song writer. So yeah. We have communication and we. He only knows that I exist because I support gop? Did you find that out Because of my twitter picture. G. Yeah 'cause 'cause we follow each other on twitter on We have a long story actually is at some of my students may the video for one of his solo songs a few years ago? So we've been in contact through twitter for a few years and. He never asked me before but the moment you. So me and I like, you are the girl who supported Qbr. So. Yeah. I think he was very intrigued. A game that lift you disappointed and a game that lift you elated. The game that left appointed has to be that game against months hippie when Joey Barton got send out with the red card after punching aware on the face. I would punch aware on the face to. and enjoy through the player that I love but There was a lot in the game paroles. and. that. You. Know it was. It was. So frustrating and disappointing and Man United Man City where fighting for the for the title through the game, and it will you know like I hate to bargain for for that sent. because he left us very vulnerable. And Yeah I just had that moment in my mind you know like it's printed over there. So yeah, that that should be the gained that I remember and the mall the most. And The game that makes me happy. Game. That makes me happy. Well. It has to be obviously when we got up on the bobby some more outscoring or winner no that that moment was fascinating and. Will. Crazy. So yeah, that that's those are my my ups and downs from Qbr. It's funny that you said that because ups and downs ups where the season. I think it was a thirteen place on the championship thirteen. Yeah Yeah THE LA? Actually, the last game of the championship was quite enjoying because You know we were the local table we weren't going down going up so we were all chilled out. So he was good. Enjoy the game. So yes, and some well, very often when I'm watching the game some very concerned and very worried at all we're going down. This is horrible. So the last game was very, very good for. Telling you I find I, get notice. Yeah. It happens to me all the time that no mother. No matter what I'm nervous and last last season was horrible. We were always worried about relegation. It didn't happen fortunately But yes you feel like you're losing your life every game you know like Oh. You know those triple in has to be hours and when they're not, it's very, very frustrating. But yeah, I get nervous every every they. Yet have a big collection of scarves I think I must have around fifty. Yet most of them from English teams. Some seems from Germany and a from. The Netherlands? Didn't say hold on another lands and Mexican teams of course, I think the weird. This one should be the signed Paulie one from Germany. And the you know, yeah, have I think it had scarves for all the Premier League teams in some championship scenes like Wigan whole obviously, I have like ten from QPR. And Southampton. Yeah. I have quite a lot. So how did you start collecting them I mean QB can understand will end the others. I I have a dream that will you know when I was younger that I wanted to to To Open A pub. With the football. Football team. So So I felt that it would be a great idea to have all describes the wolves. So that's why it started the collection, but I never got the book so. I mean it you to can. Sure That's amazing. You should have told me this earlier. I'm crazy every. Every town that I said, I, go to the football ground or to the shop and buy. SCARF. So yeah I'm friends. If they go to you know some holidays they bring this car from their local clubs and all that. Yeah. That's lovely. Wow. That's that's amazing. Fifty scowls is new small collection. Now, it's a really big collection, but I should stop because I don't have place for any. Anymore, that was gonNA. Be My next question. How do you manage the space? Now. It's crazy I know no no. No, no, it's it's It's it's no small feat. fifty fifty scarves. That's quite. Either as an Only. One that I'm missing. It's quite weird because when when it was in Belfast. I order Glentoran scarf mentor on the team from its Belfast. And I want to see them play by the way. in but I didn't want to to loose it because I was going to be traveling. So your there if to my friend's house. That wasn't whole when she was going to see me in London. I told her when you come on, bring me this car it's GonNa. Arrive to your home to your house and that. They'd stupid scarf arrived to today's later. When she often done. So and she later send it to me through mail. Well, it got lost into male. So I'M GONNA I'm GonNa, GET THAT SCARF-FORM A. Kid I wanted to be a journalist and I. Think as many kids want to be journalists when they're smoke. but. I wanted to be journalists because I heard about the troubles this big separatist conflict between Catholics and approached them to Northern Ireland and I grew up watching films about about it. What in the crying game from New Jordan? WHO also fantastic saleman? It's the one of my favorite films. And I. started to read a lot of Northern Ireland history, an Irish history general and I always wanted to go to buffalo for. The first time that I will say able to travel overseas ideally went to both us because it was also be scared because the IRA will still active. Well, they faith. I don't know if it was true but they didn't didn't want. So it took me. The first time that I've Wilson both the sick to tell us on sixteen I think and I've always been obsessed with with oliphant the. The music the cinema football us. Oh, the football team. I the one to get into politics, but it drives me crazy that they sing the got side of the Queen Anthem it I just don't get it but people from northern Lamar going to hate me after this. So it you know it's very intriguing place and They have a little history. It's a beautiful place when I finally got to to go there at discover the belt festive. So fantastically, Beautiful City was fell in love with it. I want to leave their one day. It's my mind and I. Are. achieve it. So Yan I don't know the music able Wissmann into political music so you know and. They actually the Northern Irish. Charts from the national football team, it's very very similar to the Mexican shirt. So it's always been like that crazy connection leg or teen tober close the first time I went to Ireland the republic firemen somebody told me that Irish Mexicans were quite similar that we were warned people. From the people so I have very close and very great Irish friends and I dunno I just love the culture and I have a very, very strong respect about it because I think it's not easy to to to be come to the by the. So. It's So. And the fact that my first QBR friend left from Northern Ireland. What's crazy to was very, very weird. So yeah. Yeah. That's that's my thing with with Northern Ireland Jillian and I hope I. Hope You do realize your dream and able to live this someday. Thanks. I. Hope I hope I I I get to, and if not I will go to do a PhD over there something. Said something. Can Do, yeah I. I will look into it before the coronavirus crisis and I'm quite sad that. Everything went a bit crazy but I will try to look for in the next few years. So my favorite question you said, you been a Fan Bahamas no are trophy S, but I'm going to be more strict with me and I'm GonNa say, Ab Years Okay because there were four years of. Crazy. It's been a long journey, Cuba. What has it meant to and. It's a very tough question I would say that it means a lot because It's not easy to be in Mexico and to have all this particularly. All taste. In music and failed in football and being on your own with nobody else likes the same. You know it's very, very harsh but when I found QPR when I found the QBR supporters just realized that A. Lot of people. Feel the same about football of cinema about music and that wish her interest. And we could be and we could be very. Good friends with them. To me, it means that I found a community to belong. To belong to you know 'cause it's It's very weird to be on your own. Cheering, a team from yourself in Mexico City when everybody else is. Just asking was that team won the qbr means I mean nobody even knows whether t knees? So. To be a Qbr Fan and to me has been like found in family a away family. But a great hamill you goes I have to say that particular if saying the poll are take on a Ni- a full family. So so yeah, it's been mental to me. It really is like a very important part of my life smelled like Hobie so so yeah, it's it's full of meeting actually occur. anjelica thanks so much coming on Broadway. And Discussing Your Joni of Cuba with me and fellow to you. It has been fantastic. He was a real pleasure. I hope you had some fun with. These. I hope that you can visit Cuba again and I wish you the very best and what you discussed earlier about maybe a moving to online someday. It will be really great. 'CAUSE numb would be just around the corner. Yeah. Thanks again and thanks to you. Thank you. Bye Bye bye. Have a good day. Thank you. Well, how was it? Nice. Hi thank you for downloading. Broadway Fan. I just like to ask you if I can do. Great to show. Help introduced us to new listeners. And you can also find us on instagram and twitter at far fan bod. That's. Fan Mode.

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2020 Reaction And 2021 First Look

Fantasy Focus Baseball

51:47 min | 10 months ago

2020 Reaction And 2021 First Look

"The final episode. Due. To. Twenty twin. Is Right. This is the final episode. Welcome to the fantasy focus, baseball on a beautiful Monday afternoon September Twenty Eight, twenty, twenty that was seeing interesting cockroach slayer myriad fantasy leagues, Kyle Soppe. He's underwrite a researcher and producer America cargo just happened to be here and listened to the sweet songs that Tristan sings on this show before anybody else. Basically Kyle on I, get to hear this. I and I we love it and we hope that you listening to our show love too and and right just attrition you're doing a fine job. So this was your best year yet singing you were a top ten player reiter option when it came to singing this season. I was Burgo Monte from September fourth powered as opposed to through September third believe. Before that. The day that I wrote that blog entry saying sky can't play. And for the next two weeks he was was he the best player in Vanity? He might have been there. You want the insanity numbers because I dug him up before. On September third. Adalberto modesty through thirty seven games played with slashing one seventy, nine, two. Oh, nine to thirty one hadn't homered had three rubies. Eight seals runs and was not even in the top five hundred players on the player Raider and from September fourth on he was not only the number one player overall in fantasy it was by roughly twenty five percent over the number. Two player slash tooth excuse me three, seventy, six, four, twenty, four, seven, zero, six, in twenty, two games. You homered six times nine, thousand, nine, hundred, sixteen steals. That's nine more than seven more than anyone else had and twenty two. What are we believe any ended up at number twelve option on the player which means that I have to include him in my top seventy five now. Like what we do with this guy I honestly when I wrote that blog entry, I felt pretty good that this was an undisciplined hitter with no power couldn't stay healthy and then he goes and he's the best player and fantasy in the final three weeks I where are you going to rank I visit look there's a lot polarizing players and fantasy and the first two rounds. It'll be trout Yelich But after that man I don't know if there's anybody more polarizing the modesty, I don't know where to put it where you putting. If I was guessing today in the ranks I will have hopefully shortly eighty, five to ninety, five I. and. I don't feel good about that. I gotta be honest with you. I don't feel good about that because I don't know that I, WanNa play or who is that much of a a drain on your fantasy numbers I mean did you know this Guy Rain was number one in the last three weeks? I don't know if. That's the thing. I would argue he took you down I would argue he took it. If you play in a traditional Rodeo maybe, but you didn't have them in for that week. No one had set the male only leagues I. Don't think anyone had him in for that week, and if you're in a head to head I, think in a mixed league, you have a man because of the stolen basis he was still leading the majors. The steals on. September third. A negative to earner and play reiter numbers in all of the other four categories. With you I just I. I don't know I don't know what to do with them but I feel like I'm GonNa rang a better than you. Now because what we've seen what he can do if you remove me from some of these players and what you know about them like if we just if we just discussed Yeltsin trout based on this season if we just discussed. Shame beaver based on this season. It'd be like a lot of these players will be different when it comes to modesty there's nobody more polarizing. That's how we start today's show rap I. Don't I don't think there's a thing on that with him. Though, by the way you gotTa talk for the Non Road People. Not Good in anything else without a good option because nobody that's the one six. Because the solid basis don't matter as much in points the walks mad. The lack of walks matter more. but. I, mean, if I ask you, is there any player next season cable stealing fifty bases? Is Is it he want he creates her maybe I mean. You know what? If we think modesty fifteen home runs with those fifty steals. And then round six or seven way too late. This is the thing if I could promise that he'll stay healthy and give you the hundred and sixty two game schedule is fifteen homers fifty steals in pretty much nothing else but that's worth a lot. All right. What should we discuss today show? Obviously, let's look at the play Raider I have rankings in part. I did a top twenty five last week overall. So you leaks I didn't. Well. You want ladies and. You're giving US credit, but you shouldn't you did the guys at work I did win a league I want our newly. So I was happy about that We'll get to the other stuff the expert leagues a little bit later on the five player. Shame Bieber and Jose Ramirez a pair Cleveland players are the top two options although I'm looking at it now and Ramirez finished fourth. So something must change bieber one trade Turner to teast three Jose Ramirez for. You did you watch the last day tree? Her six RB is so he moved all the way up. By I've got that's number one for next season, which is I. Think it's fair not indefensible, but others might have somebody else certainly could have trial you have yellow you could have know tease you could have the top pitchers if you want honesty unbelievably finished twelfth what is your biggest surprise here? I guess in the top ten because all these players were drafted in the first. One hundred picks yeah. I, think all these players were top hundred pick some of them were obviously top first. So a bray wasn't darvish wasn't, but they were still like top picks. Of the top ten, I think I'd say that you darvish surprises me the most. You might expect me to go with Totti's because I didn't rank in this way but health does play a major part of that one Shane Bieber you and I both liked supported why we thought he could. I thought he would statistically regressed a little bit but he made even more improvements. Darvish I think is the only one that throws me off because he doesn't give the volume and you and I we have to talk about just the fact that we perceive that he's not even be aged that he is at this point if he's not a two hundred guy generally speaking to the error, it's tough to see him getting in the top ten but that's how truly good. He was I mean he made a consistent cy young case all of two thousand, twenty second hand has some interesting names as well. We're starting pitchers Bauer. Ada Garrett Cole might beat out Garrett Cole about that. A couple of closers show up Liam Hendriks Brad hand voight made it and then there's Marsala zone as the number thirteen option on the player Raider one spot ahead of one Soto now Soto at a monster year our more stolen bases than we expected and he won a batting title and Zeus still beat him. But we're not going to rank that next year we're going to rank. Top Five Uzun is going to be like around four or five. Is that fair or should we expect to do this every year now? I think we should give them more. Positive assessments than we do, and that's what I'm talking about the fantasy communities whole players. He seems to get an unfair shake. They had some injuries that kind of clouded his outlook especially the first year in Saint, Louis I do think that he is a bona fide top twenty fantasy after the without question the reason I would take soda. I is just the stuff that he is doing. It's such a young age and I probably have that sabermetrics bias that comes into play here where I'm not applying traditional Rodeo to my. Thinking I'm applying sabermetrics thinking to it. I actually think there's an easy case to make for Juan Soto being the number one pick universally next year, which I'm at thought about to be honest with you and I ended up. So my rank is republished Friday WanNa give them all away because we want people to read it but I already said best number one I have sold over four ahead of trout who I don't have in my top five. Do you agree with that Or is say a case to be made for. I actually would agree with that. And I know it's a huge swing and opinion from a couple of weeks ago when we talk about it but the more I look at this, I think it is a top four tier of in some order a Kunas Soto teasing and bets I feel like trout doesn't quite get there and it's might gut telling me that I suspect you're right about the stolen basis and that that is going to matter more for me even in the stats in the projections than I think it's going. To and that trout really belongs in that next year and you and I talked a little bit about this. When you were putting this together is that I liked that you went with this angle of a tier four and tier three. It feels right now like that's the way twenty twenty one is going to start. It's quite a change in your mind like did something happened in the last two weeks or did ideas can I couldn't convinced you I don't convince you of anything. So what happened? You're just now convinced trials knock on a steel basis, but we don't have a guaranteed Soto will still basis either and he just happened to steal I, think six this year but that could be three. I just when I compared soda trail, not only eight years younger I see the same power I see a higher batting average and a few more steals. That's why what was sort of over trout, but it seems like a big adjustment for you recently. So a lot of it has to come down to. Their awards on every one of these players except potentially for one and that is Soto I would argue he's the one where I would not overly criticize him other than he's not a big base stealer But there are little things to chip away at for each of these players and trout's case. It is starting to bother me that he's on a team that's not as competitive as it could be that he has missed a little bit of time as. You've you've chipped away thinking here that he doesn't steal basis quite as much as I would like, he doesn't play quite as many bases as I would like I questioned whether the angels are going to be all that much more competitive next year whether that's going to turn the lineup over a lot and giving runs in Rbi to the level that I would like it. To. It would I can make you the trout at number one case but I don't think that's a slam dunk anymore I. think There are there are as many as seven players who could warrant that pick but I don't think he's one of the better ones where is starting pitchers and up you think in your rankings, will you have degrom coal or bieber around wine? In a standard ESPN league, which is ten teams. Other were talking your points leagues different in a poisoning. I've all three starting pitchers somebody top ten I I might drought I don't think I'd have trout number one in points league I think I'd still have to go with Soda. He's an extreme walker. Soda might be my number one, pick a points league. I may be close with him. Best certainly would not be Konia. I would not bt's so that's interesting points they we should discuss points league since it's espn standard as well but. To that if you'd like well I mean I'm looking at the top ten points options, Freddy Freeman was by far the number one hitter. In points leagues this season and I would argue there's no reason to think that that's going to change I mean he's going to change up betting what are you at three, forty privacy that again. But Like why you can take Freddy Freeman over trout next season in points league or Rotor League, and it's Ok it really is. But the catch here where if you try if you try to make the trout case at one, I mean travelers twenty-first in fantasy points one hundred and eighty seven were talking that's four, sixty, four points off a Freddy Freeman space looking at the other guys who are at the top level you're looking at about thirty points off that, and it's that year-over-year. We are still seeing the elite starting pitchers dominate the top. Ten advantage of switching. Bieber Yu Darvish Trevor Bauer Nelson lament was the number four pitcher in terms of vantage points, Jacob degrom getting coal, which supports the idea that Colin degrom still should be topped by picks without question reportedly, I could still easily make the case for you know depending on personal preference for me. It's still coal that you take one of those guys with the number one pick before you would take a header. Bryce Harper, edged out trout in points leaks about that. That doesn't show me. To offer Arthur Walker and he's still. Being caught. He scored runs he stayed relatively healthy. You know I mean trout if tre plays the final two days of the season, maybe pass it. I don't WanNa read too much into it. I just think that that you know bryce Harper's little underrated frankly as a fantasy option I have in my top twenty. Let's move on. What else do we talk about my top twenty starting pitchers and my top twenty closers and I think we did that on the last show we probably don't need to do that. You had again but but you asked a good question there I want to circle back to. The starting pitching strategy and a traditional Roller League wrote totally I mean I think that? Group Graham Call Bieber in the same spot and I ended up putting them at eleven twelve thirteen not to give it all away. But that's just because personal preference. If I'm in a draft, I basically decided you know what? I'm not even positive a- this but I decided that's my break point where I say okay and it's probably before I probably would take the before Yelich by the way too. I just don't know what to do with. Yelich. I I you know he just regrets in so many ways in twenty twenty, the ground ball rate, the fly ball he still hit baseball's hard. But this was a terrible season for Yelich and still they fly off without ever having a day where they were over five hundred nice job feelings. But I think a push came to shove I might take one of those starting pitchers over reality in a row. I definitely wouldn't points but I mean I think it's more going to be really important next season trying to make sure you get at least. Probably two of the top sixteen starting ventures, I think that's where the tear ends. And I. think that's the key takeaway here. So the final tally for this year was forty forty era qualifiers. That is an all time record low forty era qualifiers off the leader in innings was Lance Lynn at eighty four. If it project Lance wins innings over a hundred and sixty two game schedule, he's a two, hundred, twenty, six, thousand, two thirds. But if you look at the guys behind him, there aren't all that many would have easily gotten beyond the two hundred threshold. The volume pitchers are declining and you still have bieber up there remarkably darvish show I talk about a couple of minutes ago was among the leaders Garrett Cole remained in the top ten trying to grandma's twenty twenty-first an innings. I think that the ace caliber players make a very compelling argument for being taken in the first round but I'm probably with you I probably am resisting in attend team or if I possibly can I think that the deeper the league, the more likely I'm GonNa Inch Spotter Lance Lynn by the way did some reparable harm to fantasy rosters in his final adding and the season whereas managed that here throw a hundred pitches the matter how many runs you allow my goodness. I. I had such a terrible fantasy baseball weekend across my lease. It wasn't just lean. It was Ariza volume. The League in laborer was set Lugo Kyle Freeland in the first two innings. I. I lost I don't know how many I didn't even look again mean Karasu on the League but the point is like I had a terrible weekend although we should look ahead now. We talked about when we take our first starting pitchers. When I get the closer rankings I noted, I couldn't even find five closes. I really truly trust for next year I've never seen it this bad. Now, you know maybe by February I, I'll feel better about the closers but are you going to address closers differently in twenty twenty one are you going to take you know? A couple of guys earlier than you would because you can trust leave Hendrix Josh eater or the Yankee closer or you're like me you're gonNA take them around fourteen I actually think I leaned quite a bit more you as far as today stands for twenty twenty, one strategy I actually do think that this year supported chasing saves a little bit on the waiver wire on using. It. Didn't work out with a couple of cases the first one I think it was James Korean check it know you could use the metric indicators to take is who could move into closers jobs and I think you can build a bullpen that way and I think it's going to be the wiser way for for twenty twenty seven Williams Milwaukee Korean check of Cleveland maybe Jordan Monarch Toronto. These are the guys that I kind of exalt above the rest drew pomeranz. I'm probably likely to take these guys over. like A. Want to say bad closer like. Hector narrow range. Not Presley probably a top ten guy I don't know. Like, who is a definite closer right now but you think are like kizlar probably somebody like data or milan-san. If he comes back to Atlanta we these guys, I don't remember necessarily bad. More season strike as a bad closer bad fantasy closer. Tight taper off I. Still Think we'll be the best example here saying say all right. Roger my clothes getting thirty saves I might take Devon Williams and Chaco but. Because I may not believe the Taylor Rogers really is the closer a year I think. I think. The takeaway here is you mentioned Harris. If those are the closers available around twelve even then I don't feel excited to take them on on a little more lukewarm even on that tier of closures today than I was. Seasons past I mean what a nightmare season this was for closers right? I mean how many outs Coleman up number three closer Trevor Rosenthal number four trevor. Rosenthal of all people. Do you think the closer by committee we saw this year and it was absolutely the law the. Most widespread usage I. Is that The feud is that the future the position or do you think that this was just an unusual here words springs a little bit back the other day I mean I think Tampa Bay should try to do what they did next this year next year. You know so I mean, Nick Anderson, we're going to rank as borderline top ten relief pitcher, but you might only get twenty, twenty, five saves. Now the question then becomes the. Tampa. Goes deep into the postseason here using that strategy. Are we going to get copycats because I think that could actually come into I. Guess It depends on roster size next year to some degree doesn't it? Yeah. I think it'll be twenty six, but we don't know yard. Yeah you're right we don't. I I will not draft Kimbrel what else? And he was pretty good down the stretch but I don't blame you save the playoffs and we should note well, we'll get to that. Later on that, you can plan Klaus. Let's bring in Kyle now through some. Trivia, and then we're GonNa House Brown I'm sure we'll have lots of do after that. Direct. Route is function is not easy. Usually, we just brush it off or blame ourselves saying things like else my Mojo or we avoided altogether with excuses like I had a long day at work or sorry honey I'm just not feeling it with Roman. It is easy to talk about it with healthcare professional who can prescribe real medication. It's simple safe and totally discreet with Roman. You can get a free online evaluation ongoing care for ed all from the comfort and privacy of your home healthcare professional will work with you to find the best treatment plant. If medication is appropriate, Roman ship it to you with free. 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Of course, I want you to name the one that is not. Johnny pods cannot be answered multiple Trivia questions within one calendar year to law. Can't be von Hayes because he didn't play last year You brought US full circle circular. Modesty because he didn't it through seventy five, quite certain of that. Also I. Think he was on a majority. Finish here I. Mean I have a couple of against this year I mean. But we'll get to them a little bit later on. Let's do some. Hash browns now kyle options, lots of questions and. Thank you to everybody who sent them in all along what he got. Now, we've got a great fan base and we appreciate them sticking with US Rashit as a ten team keep releases ob quality starts. He wants you to rank these options for him. Hoskins Baya's lament incorrect SCO. play every day until the final two weeks when he couldn't play anymore fleet blue the playoff spot not I'm bitter or anything women fun watching this week even if they got swept by the dodgers but alas. I can't. I can't take hoskins over lament even in an on base percentage lake while lamented Lameta top you can make a case of the top ten starting pitcher right now. You can I don't think either is this going to rank there but you can make the case where did I? Couldn't a bit far from there I mean. Let me. The Not even the ceiling. The relatively mystic outlook is still going to place them in the top ten. while. So my number ten starting pitcher was Lance Lynn. But I think Metal Lance Lynn Island in Lebanon will net fourteen. So yeah, I. I can make the case easily for lamenting the top ten. I would take here I if on base percentages of thing. I don't know how could take how I could take. You really take hoskins over buys, but I guess OB peeling don't you have to? I mean you're looking at the guy who's three three, sixty on the low end and three eighty on the high end versus one who is on the low end he's this year's to thirty eight on the high. Andy. Was Three, twenty, six, I mean that does have an impact now granted. Is Ken steel basis more than he did this season. Well, he's only eleven. Point here stole eleven bases in two, thousand nineteen, and if you take batting average out, hoskins is the better value here the same power. Actually I think in an on base percentage league or a point I think hoskins Carlos Santana are ahead of of your by is now. How about that I think I'm with you I think laments the class of these four. I, do think it's close between the other three. I'll actually make the case for Carrasco Rasco also had a statistically excellent season he's also. I know the injuries and absences and the like. He's very consistently in the games that he gives you he might well be. Three behind hoskins here by four. We've got consistent listener of the fans show. He wants a rundown of how you guys did Italian Labor and what did and didn't work from US strategy perspective. Dresen you talk about this how did you do those leagues and? Is there anything I think was important is not just in general what worked at didn't but like what changed? Either that we think is GONNA be changeable next year like did you change a strategy that you're going to keep using in future seasons? Now did you do in those links? I hate to give the cop out answer here. We drafted before the pause, right? That's why I don't think anything's relevant to. This is no no and. The fact of the matter is this I finished sixth and Labor Al.. Larry Scheckter one lael congratulations to Larry in that one in towers finishing ninth and Fred Zinke one that one congratulations to fred way did draft before the pause. They were not relevant players, but I did lose a couple of players for opt-outs. There was an influence on transactions in July after we came back and and I understand the reason for it. There was way that we would have been able to get that group together to redraft those teams but it it influences any takeaways I have. There's no strategy I can gleaned from drafted happened before the knowledge we had and in Labor skates, we had absolutely no idea what was coming was coming. We knew that that stuff was going to get tricky. But not to the level that it did. Well, I question is did you learn anything this season that you will take into next year's Tau or labor, or any other drafts? That's actionable. Yes. There was one have to spend in Fab on free agents you cannot throw zero dollar bid which means when you run out you're stuck and I lost that league a couple years ago because I ran out of funds and I did also have some unfortunate injuries injuries. At the wrong time and ran out of funds I will be making sure that does not happen. Again, know your rules. So Derek van riper of the Athletic One, my tat league I was either second or third I look but he won by a lot and then in labor unbelievable unbelievable finish here it was a three way tie at a very low eighty two entering the last day on Sunday and then with three or four other teams all. Within two or three points. So any of like six teams could could've one now of course, I had a bad someday I, finished six I could have one if Sunday didn't count but congrats Derek Cardi. Our former colleague of ours who had a great season and he made a nice comeback and he won i. You know in terms of fat budgets Yeah. Usually Save Mine in both those leagues networked out the season but I don't know of any. Next season in fantasy is going to be like the twenty twenty season and going to be more like two thousand nineteen but with fewer home runs and more strikeouts. So that's another thing that I should've asked you. There were fewer home runs per game. In this short season, we don't know what the baseball was like nobody was talking about it. But when we project for twenty twenty one, I'm GonNa, Sumer, knocking GonNa Project. The crazy home run totals that we did in twenty that we saw twenty nineteen but with a universal designated hitter and you could argue all you want they're going to have a D. H. Next year never letting pitchers bat again We're quite certain it's going to ask. Yes I. Think is the most likely of the new rules to be when we project ahead. Now you know like I didn't the American League of a lower earring nationally season less like Chad is correct you are correct. As a matter of fact, I wanNA take this opportunity to tout the frankly amazing work that our colleague Todd Zola's doing with regard to this. He has already been starting to look into some of these implications for next year including looking at projections using a not using the D.. H.. It's going to be interesting how this shortened season influences are projections for next year, and as I said, you'll follow him. He's going to have some some good content for. I. Don't know how he's GonNa do projections because. I can't wait to see what he's doing because I have no idea what he's doing but I when I'm projecting individual players, I'm basically picking and choosing what information from twenty twenty I wanNA use which you really can't do projections. But that's how I'm doing it. I basically decided that I think Yelich bounces back but Kris Bryant is not like I don't know why I even doing some of this stuff but. Go ahead I'm GONNA give you a nugget here for this one that that he had pointed out is that there is a difference between the divisions in terms of the way the baseball appeared to play I don't know whether that means a different baseball was used, but the fact that the statistics were so markedly different between, for example, the east the. Central. There's an analysis that should be done. That's a fair housing baseball did that they use a different different necessarily understand that the divisions the fact they separated them have statistical impact. Next year like the reds have to face the no east of the NFL west to. Play you know the the central. So it's GonNa. Affect their numbers. But, but I think that that is going to. Cast some sign of some sort of Judgment on the twenty twenty statistics as far as what we take away for twenty twenty one and that's that's the kind of stuff. I find interesting. He's looking into fair enough art. What else? Dave onto who improved their dynasty stock most during this irregular season. Improve. Their stock the most I mean obviously, we look at the player. Rafer. But I don't know if Marceau's really improve. Is All that much because we have a decade of knowing what he is I mean frankly. I mean Trevor Rosenthal it's going to be hard for somebody to improve their stock he was out of baseball. So. We Daniel Board is it closers that we look at and say they improve their stock the most because like when I look at like Kyle Tucker I thought he was going to be pretty darn good. You know. I guess some degree but I I always we knew he was going to be good. He just wasn't good last season. On a Gara- Crochet what is he next year? Amazing. The the kristel concert is. Right. I. Think. He should be what makes me curious as one if the ceiling for next year is that he is in the range of early Chris sale as a starting pitcher and the low end is he's a dominating relief pitcher, which is really not a bad basement. Yet he has some nasty he has some stock. And nobody was thinking about and that's that's the kind of guy where he's going to be very high pick in in the it would be a shame if the white SOx, I don't WanNa say relegated but I will, if they relegated him to a relief role in twenty twenty one when they could get one hundred fifty per typically great innings of as a starting pitcher and we say, great he wouldn't pitched five innings last two weeks I mean I don't want to assume that that awesome. Next year Amini should be got nasty stuff. But if he if we re told in February that he's going to be a starting pitcher, don't we have to think about him as like a top fifty starter the way we do nate Pearson and Kopech and other guys who or Mackenzie. Gore. And Look. This discussion is bordering on absurd. We are jumping way ahead of ourselves, but this is a dude who just walked straight out of the draft in a pandemic year her and has put up lights out stuff to the point that I actually think Rochet crocheting it'd be the difference maker Pearl White Sox team otherwise looks. Bad in my estimation, the past two weeks. What if they do advance they go deep in the postseason. He's a major force I locked K. Rod, for instance, Storage Regis back in two thousand two that's going to have some huge waves fantasy and it certainly should from the dynasty dynasty perspective because again he's going to be in the draft for a lot of these people. Two more names for you. Joey Barton Jazz Chisholm. I don't think anybody really believed either would reach the majors this year they advanced their careers significantly. Yeah. But Bart didn't hit or walk. How much do you read into that? When you're when you're thinking about league INNOC- format and you see I play a little bit in the majors and play not well, we bart three walks in forty one strikeouts in one hundred eleven plate appearances. That's bad. There was a shortstop might have been a rock you came up late in the house was to Lewinsky who bad forty slow to ninety, two, in two, thousand, six man I'm old and we thought all he's not that good and the next year twenty, four homers about two, hundred, ninety one and he was a top five shortstop. I don't WanNa make that mistake on Chisholm. Bar because they played and Mackenzie Gordon not play. It's unfair to judge these players offer such sample sizes and then give a break to wonder Franca McKinsey core because never debuted. You know what I mean. Joey Bard twenty-three. He had twenty two games of AA experience nothing higher than that. And, he was thrown into the major leagues unexpectedly due to injury in the middle of a pandemic I'm going forgive him any of the misstep so far this year because the pedigree's great I look catchers take awhile to arrive on your. Molina took what seven years before became the superstar that he is nowadays. Your I think he deserves. By the way, your answer to this question was different than mine because you were talking about players being debuted into a dynasty league. So ridiculous for me to save Marcelo Zona in that vein, you're talking about somebody who's aren't need not in the league. That's why Crochet so interesting, which is fine. It's. Trying to bring us a little different ask famous. GonNa throw you another one who falls a little bit in between here because he did play and he was great there's a lot about could Brian Hayes did for the office month I will admit that I am extremely surprised by his production this month I did not expect that he was going to be this good with the bad. Especially power I expected the defense would right I mean if you're talking about rookie third baseman Alex was still be ranked etiquette Brian as and fantasy, but not that much I mean these these Pennsylvania Third Baseman and only one of them staying at third base in future seasons by the way. We says with pride. At five the ages. I can Bryan Ryan Hayes I mean or and Bom I. Don't think we can rank either them as top ten third baseman next year. But I don't think the either going to be that far off how many third baseman have to be ranked In the top hundred Ramirez Machado Mayo is start taking surveys eligibility. Does. I don't know that he played there at all ever is in Vlad lost is so Denver's is another one. They might both. Has Awaiting. Soir atop third basement I didn't go. The combined might actually beat top ten through basement entering next season. There are people who are going to jump on that Bandwagon Brian Measure it's Rondo like I'm trying to think of like is that wrong to rank them? So well I mean Odin you have ranked your top third baseman at the end of this season. And will be deficits over the you know like. Yeah. Krizner. Chris Brian Looks. Made to some degree route remember that on Tober I you have to, you should really be leading on your gut you need to make your calls on players and decide how far you're going to push them towards their ceiling. Hey, ceiling puts them in that top ten. If you're if you're a believer, you should be drafting in that way. I. Watch people do this on those early NFC drafts you both in the first pitch conferences. Watch people take these prospects early if you believe, you should be doing that and I left that up my hesitation is that he's a Pittsburgh hitter in a ballpark that's not friendly to power and he was advertised as more glove than bat. So how much adjustment to the pitchers make him next to me expand next year's top ten third base Ramirez Aaron Nado Machado Devers Bregman rundown that six guys that are in my top twenty five. Chapman and Brian and Suarez I think right now all three would be ranked ahead of bone and can Brian Hayes. and. Then those guys would be next like when CADA DONALDSON Muncie snus. No. Lost it. So they're not top ten third BASEMAN, but they're close they're top fifteen MOCATTA was terrible this year now maybe that was the virus. Yeah I see the path you're looking at here and I I don't think objective. I want I want to three one more name. Want I want your perspective on one other I was impressed by trevor, Rogers. Just? Don't know if there's a path to him being fantasy relevant a standardly what does that? What does that to you? Not, relevance in a Standard League with you. But when we're talking dynasty on going debate to the Miami, landed not expecting what do you think this is this is the Miami left. You debuted any did not pitch well it a lot of strikeouts. Ballpark. Do think that he's on. On. Par with. Any of these dispenser Howard Nate Pearson Kopech. Types but. We do think this strikeout lefty who could be matched freed two years though you're saying. Could be yes. There's adjustments to be made. The reason I throw him here is I also didn't expect a pitcher like him to the pushed into such a relevant role to the to the level of a marlins are considering him as a four or five if they go deeper in the playoffs. All right anything else. We'll one last question from addy wants other than the obvious. Mindlessly who do you think will be the toughest Blair to rank. The hundred for redraft next year. well I, mean trout Yelich bellinger providence reasons. Glad Vlad. Guerrero Junior. ME. Either, you believe a lot of people don't believe anymore. They just don't a now he he played great in the final two weeks. So he really helped his cause a little bit. But if you tell me lad is, is somebody's number forty and somebody's number one twenty I can't argue with either one next year. I probably haven't seventy, seventy five. I'm going to throw Joey Gallo here. And maybe he doesn't belong in the top hundred and that takes out of this. Well it's more that the ceiling is definitively top hundred. It's probably even borderline top fifty. But. How optimistic are you? If you this is the thing the toughest fighter rank has low end that's out of the top hundred. Right. But he can if the Omron's anybody that's capable of fifty home runs even if they've got to ten is a potential top fifty player so Really. Gallo is one of those guys always say just forget his twenty twenty just forget. It happened I don't even care what he did because I know we what he's done in past seasons I don't like it that much in a in a standard Rodeo. Batting, average matters but yeah, Gal is GONNA I don't like man. I don't know if gal makes my top hundred or not. But that's like I would take flat over. Mellow. Than a similar guy at the same position, you mentioned before and we talked about it enough. But Pete Alonzo describes another mentioned here I mean that's a guy who could fifty home runs again, it will be my third round that's for sure but. Fourth or fifth where you rankings going to be very important July late forties. Probably More likely to get Alonzo, remind US your next year neither. I'm not getting. Answer I take my back. Well, I I I. Just I don't think Lonzo is a guy. You can trust to fifty and I know we can't trust modesty to do that and I wanNA protect batting average batting averages the category They're going to be they're both going to be on. My do not draft list I don't WanNa give that away sex eight months in advance or whenever has to write it but I guess it's not. By five months but I would guess pretty heavily here that Moncey and Alonzo probably on that do not draft list gallows probably on it. Kenley Jansen probably on it. I know you always have Kenley Jansen left first closer on it but. You know. So I guess Hendrickson hater off to be on there. Will you rank eder over Hendrix again or a hater over everybody else again. I don't know. I think. I. Might Have Hendrix over here now. On my to that's that's going to be close when I'll be taking a closer look at that. All right. So that's if aspirins. What are we going to do next answer Trivia next than we have our world series picks we should do those. Let's do that now so. While a year. Tristan Yours and mine were posted at SPN on Monday and I took Cleveland you took Minnesota people can read that and then Kyle Boring, took the dodgy on to win. I yesterday I went against the Yankees and around one because I I don't think that's wrong. I don't have either. The three of us are very bullish on the Indians that we should be not only do they have arguably the best pitcher, but I think they have. I think they might have the best bullpen. You can say Tampa but brad hand career check are amazing. And I think. They have Carrasco put could use a volley in the bullpen. Police Act was great if they go to game three who the Yankees after knocking game to an end Cleveland against Tampa either candidates beatable I mean, yes. They have a lot of pitchers and really didn't score any runs this past weekend against them. But like Jose Ramirez door can carry a team I look at Tampa Bay's offense. There's nobody wanted fantasy when I did so I did rankings for postseason pools and by the way that took five times longer than it didn't every past season because it five times as many playoff teams. Ranked five hundred players like. And we ought to be doing a playoff pool by Oakland. Ranked God how did these teams win that money gains would no offenses? Anyway. As a little ran. To the team I, picked to win the world series. If you look at their offensive numbers hitting was nowhere near what was perceived to be they were home run oriented the twins but didn't produce a lot of runs and certainly doing a lot of batting average. We should know there is a game at ESPN. If you want to continue to play some fantasy, it's called playoff classic prophets throughout the playoffs multiple choice like, for example, one for the wild card round, which these players record the most extra base hits during their wildcard series Jose. Abreu Matt Olsen Nelson Cruz or luke void we have a group. If you play Hispan- plowed classic. It's six Oh one zero baseball of the space between the numbers and the letters I have joined and I kyle joined because he probably set it up and. I've already done by first round and I'm hoping to win though I feel like I'll finish second and anyway if you. been calculating all of his picks very carefully throwing it in their two minutes before the deadline. Win that. Does a lot of these. These a lot of prophet ones I'm not good at those never twenty twenty backwards. So that means you're really good at. Like you're thinking anyway play ESPN playoff classic. If you dare let's answer some Trivia now because I'm not sure what else we have to do on the show. So what was the date question Kyle? Reset here there's one player that hits all these threshold since the all-star break of Twenty nineteen they will not be considered in fantasy first round for twenty twenty one. Sense the twenty nine, th all-star break ten steals fifty extra-base hits to seventy five batting average. A player that hit although that will not be considered in the first round Meksi's. Tristan you WANNA go first. The first came to mind was Jonathan VR. That is incorrect. I never thought about this guy's got on the first guest how anti climatic but no my I wrote down to players and their names Robert, but they don't. You. So I wrote down view VR and Kevin Pillar. Man Okay, you got it. Work having long ran. He ran it. And and when we heard their names rhymed I'm like Oh as long as it's not with tristen gusts and I'm Golden Mike Maybe. It's a brown in Tyler's on the mill. You wrote that that the player played with multiple team so I was just thinking. Yeah. Exactly. That's why the other guy who was cameron maiden but I think I'm thinking of the eighteen to nineteen I. Don't think they've been played enough. But yes, I was thinking of base stealers and and the reason why I knew that are I I was going to use a lot of my fad budget in an old labor on Kevin Pillar and then I wasted on cleven during their loss anyway. If I wouldn't have mattered because I mean every pitcher got last weekend but yet there come. is going to be next year. He's not going to be on the rockies or Red Sox I. Don't know where he's been but. Batting average the problem but. He hit two seventy five in that period Seventy three thirty this season didn't. I feel like how you're disappointed that we got this right Now I'm glad you're you end I, know like they ban me from wrestling trivia, questions the football because they weren't getting them often enough. So you guys have. Years have held your own for sure I'm sorry. I've been there. I just don't want to say anything about the Dan, but we're pretty smart when it comes to base right now is. Kind of tough with the football questions and when we get those like angry. Any trivial top put you on the spot after about the past into grabbing it's. Even, obvious question. Well I can't tell you when the next time we're doing a show is but we will let you know on twitter Kyle will. tweet if it's if it's in October, we don't know if it's winter meetings. If it's February we are going to try to stick together here the Three Musketeers here, and we want to thank you everyone who has listened to download it i. don't care which but the people that are fans of the fantasy focus baseball you tweeted us and gave us credit over the weekend for helping win fantasy titles and winning titles not easy. But you're the guys who really and Gals who did the hard work we just talk and we appreciate everybody who it's gratifying. You know it's humbling. Right Tristan. I mean we love fantasy baseball doesn't always loves back but it's great to know the people actually foued listened to some of our advice we entertain we inform and we hope to continue doing this again in two thousand, twenty, one interest in any final thoughts from you. Yeah we without question we have to celebrate the fans and the listeners of the show especially in a pandemic year they carried us through the show the entire season you think we did it. They did it they listened and they tuned in when we had no games to talk about and to the initial since were throwing thanks to the friends. Let's thank you lied to. He came in and he was talking movies with a stirring the entirety this summer we had things to fill space with and to enjoy baseball even when there wasn't baseball I consider that remarkable and I say Kudos, the fans and to June and the Kyle. Carrots it's through here too. That's another thing. You deserve a huge thanks for the show. I. Your guys coattails I'm just along for the ride I love what you guys do. It's it's been a fun season. It was such a weird season start to finish but. The constant was the two of you talking baseball twice a week I loved it was compile. You learned how to be a producer for us I think you. Look he's the VR. The show except that he didn't stink the final two weeks of the that's over two, seventy, five for sure. Jonathan Vr I. wanted to have Labor Oh. I got to say thank you Eric, because I do it every year because he deserves it for for driving this year because I don't know how you keep that stuff organized in your brain Eric. Remembers absolutely everything and he gets all the Trivia questions. Right there's a reason it's all right up here organized in a way I. Had to grow my hair because I have lots of secrets in my hair in my head. Protected. I thank you. Tristan Jimmy do a great job here. I mean I don't prep but I, know you do and It's. It's a do a great job on this show and thank you for your friendship both all of us I mean, this was a lot of fun this season and I don't know when we're GonNa do it again but please listen to our friends on the fantasy focus football podcast. 'cause they're going through the next couple of months and they do it a lot more often than we do on this show and. allow support there in a lot of listeners and they do video and they would they film it live and all this stuff it's it's crazy how much work they put in the meetings and livestock and all that, and basically three of us were just signing on with two minutes to go before the deadline and hoping that squad cast would work and you know generally was me you didn't have a good connection because I am a terrible connection in my house to the point where now I mean the hallway but Yes. Thank you. For. Instance. With my little things, it's something like that I might grilled chicken sandwiches I'm eating well kid. was. We made it through it season. Thank you to everybody for listening. Thank you to kyle interest in. Am Eric have an awesome playoffs and we'll be back with you as soon as we can. Long I. Think he stole I've found an abacus curse and. Its eyes are just very life cycle and what does it? Head. Keep Spinning. ooh, that is scary. Really scary. Missing out on GEICO's easy to use mobile. You can manage your fico policy whenever Larry. Looks Clean with another doll? We can just bury deep in the ground. Happy gyco wing download the industry-leading GEICO APP today.

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"Thanks for joining us. It's the rising postal post cost. I'm bruce. Vincent and unto lighted joined this week by two of the wise owls from the racing. Post football desk in dan child's and chris rivers and making a second appearance. Welcome to call monaghan from potty. Powell who've is also his own tapes plus all the latest betting on a full weekend of parental reaction. Unusually condense two days. We got six games on saturday. We've got three guidance. Kicking off unusual time of three pm. That one ever catch him and we got four games on sunday. All live on the box. Action does come thick and fast. We've got more midweek primarily next week is wall-to-wall stuff and boy. Do we. native. 'cause there's not one else to do okay. We'll start off with the first of the ten currently games this weekend. Twelve thirty at goodison. On saturday on bt sport everton versus new castle. I should think a lot of punches were if the standards are home win and if they do what price can they get caught. Bruce are one to two new kessler. Six to one on the draw is fourteen to five. Thank you very much countdown. You kick us off here. Do you think everton are the proverbial home bank here. I'm not sure along with the process. Is i just feel. I watch a lot of this season. And i'll think folks positioning in. That might be like a few more points tonight. Probably should have On the i mean against leicester in the weight against the same. That's you no jamie varsity. And they think he's a real big clashes go golfing ship before halftime yet. Still really hanging on really to get one on jordanian so the never somebody i would say new call or an easy say the will not against they don't score money guy who's on already by losing rambunctious thing is evanston showing that she go to school for about a shot of zone what newcastle seem to be changing their strategy a little bit sleepers took to the pitch and we did see against leeds. Nazi one the shot down twenty sewer line against leeds. I mean before you probably expect shot stats video hawaii round and leads to win the game. But that's a raw go back in what. I was giving a much with threats upfront. Southern school here in new costs as well but not able to play post teams to sco for damning christie. If you look at newcastle reputation alone they they'd probably almost a minus points marooned at the bottom. It's ever been such negativity out. Say who halfway through the season. Six points clear of relegation appropriate could probably find a few more examples of it. Seems to dock newcastle. This kind of feeling that they should be higher up the table than where they normally find themselves in. An steve bruce's has been doing. A good job is now on the worst run of his career is the longest winless run of bruce's career. Eleven games in all competitions now and so you can understand why there is a lot negativity i mean. You have people braving the weather last saturday night. Turning out james's part with banners calling for bruce's heddon exciting know the newcastle fans have really the hump if they've gone out in the middle of january two to display those banners for me in this up more so a little bit of trepidation when it comes to sort support supporting everton fully of gone for them to be ahead at half-time as my best even money through thing that's a decent one because they do tend to start games pretty well everton. They're averaging nearly two goals a game. In the first half of matches at this season and new newcastle only scored one away goal in the first half of games all season long. So that the notoriously. Slow starters. As dan mentioned they did have a lot of shots on goal against leeds but leads concede law shots on goal and therefore that might be a bit of a false stats. To put too much way in everton look pre sound defensively against leicester and they get up delayed decor back for this game will provide a bit of a buffer in front of back four so in terms of everton to be ahead of halftime. I think that's the way to go. bruce could be gone after this game. Essentially i'll tell you what i've heard it all now here. We are in the midst of a pandemic vote. We talked to stay done. Spread the virus and people. Going out of their homes to congregate on wavebands asking for football manager to be set. Grow up. call what you make of this game. Yeah well see. I'm going to go with everton minus myself. Six to four just think newcastle. Look a little bit. Obviously drained physically emotionally never tough game for everton against leicester in mid week. We'll last play into newcastle hands. A little bit. I don't see at goodison such a place to go. You need a lot of heart to get results there on under everton minus one i just think enchilada has improved them so much. I mean he's a pre. Here's a proven track record. But they just look at our side and they have a little bit more conviction that getting over the line that hamas rodriguez obviously was a really good player for them. At the start of the season. He went to the quiet. He's he seems to be on form with us. Go against leicester a couple of in the fa cup as well so and uncovered lou and buck amongst the goals as well after that brilliant stars. Well so i take the starts going for everton at goodison park. I just think you have to be in a good frame of mind. Go there and get a result. And i don't think the of okay and don't forget with handicap betting if you got to is what it means that win the game by two clear goals while we're on the subject of newcastle columbine traits. Light is betting is on next premier league manager to go. I'd imagine bruce heads that market doesn. He does yes. he is eight fifteen to go next as well Like when your colleagues just mentioned there. I mean this could be. This could be on the back of an everton defeat. This could become an as close as one day. More than an sure. Steve bruce when he was watching the news during the week when we saw frank lampard. I'm sure he was nervous enough watching it. While while the prices we got in that college interesting market. Because i think he's sure. I think the ashley is nothing if not loyal and then nor in the renovation zone. I'm not sure he's going to be a rushed up to four k big check to get rid of him. So who else might we be able to back here. Like we say bruce. Eight to fifteen. Steve rooster favourite data. Chris wyler five hundred grand potter. Five to one. And roy hudson sixty one and of course big sound fifteen to at sixteen bar quickly bringing the leads for very quick line on sacrifice bat called nine hundred pounds fans and really turning on a thing if they lose against wolves is really going to intensify the pressure. I mean i've got bruce. Very very short dan. What you think yeah. I think he's show he saw these properly. If you don't actually you know your customer base this size the season six points above the relegation far away from os just thinking only just gone in there you can get some clubs up mike an emergency appointment and he's clearly gone wrong if westbound thing. We're going to get really anyway. A couple of more defeats hawaii. Thinking that i might end to plan for the next season. Marshall light seattle dodgers the mindset to get the championship. Chris juice any value in the race. The young with donna. The look of allardyce to go next their next two games absolutely vital west brom it's fulham and then sheffield united if they weren't pick up a win from either of those two games as you say it could well be that. He goes out the door very quickly more to protect this reputation. I've never been sacked as premier league manager perhaps More than anything else. Okay fair enough. Let's move onto the first of the three three o'clock games. So as parkinson's skype sports and it's palace versus wolves call. Kits showed beckton patty power. Yeah crystal Are fifteen to april. The draw is to one. Wolves are thirteen eight. What did you think chris so tough one to call this one at neither decided in particularly great form right. Now you've just mentioned bruce palace fans getting hunt with Hodgson and rightly so. It's one win. In the last twelve league fixtures and those have come against bottom two sides. Sorry to wins in the last twelve league fixtures against west brom and sheffield united. And thought will preside looks a little bit disinterested the other night against west ham but then you look at the wall side of things and there without winning seven games picked up two points from the last eighteen available the shutdown chelsea the other night but it was a very negative display and that leads me towards thinking. There's not going to be a lot of goals at selhurst. Park on saturday have gone for both teams not to school That bites landed in five of the last six meetings between these two sides and all of those games of featured under two and a half goal so history would suggest it's not going to be a thriller so park you leave my wolf. Aloni might not never ever disinterested chris permit show. He's as long as he's moaning and complaining refuse always interested. He's always. I mean it doesn't always happen for him but he's it a promise you so okay anyway to get what you were coming from a. I wouldn't expect it to be through. Would you expect it to be throwing a call. No i wouldn't really under two point five goals as four to seven. I like to look at. It could be a draw here. Don't what was really really hard to play against. Under to be fair to crystal palace. They were beaten the other night by western deservedly. So but the plane well and after have to remember is really really good at the moment and the punishment toe-to-toe for for spells in the match with donald donaldson to them. And i think it looks like a potential role here as well. policewoman stores. Around two to one. Bruce so like the look of incensio. You'll police do is because that's quite sure. Dan shards of any hope for this one. Would they have bruce. Saw sport with palaces against bush dahmer white rump. A free to now flat better for west fairly comfortable winners that the warriors The goal was to conceit now not too long ago there was a seven against liberal three on the west side. It's not really like tomkins. Missed the game in the wake. The show where he's going to be you know valuable off in the school hours ago. Bought a bike is a while. he's also. I think both teams better her sex game five on up because of that in the fridge. Matt neal chelsea even other they lock. Obey the more likely to win. The guinan palace. Tomkins was a crucial absence. Southern hopefully backpack hitting the snowball of missing around so The kids dangerous also three called man city versus sheffield united. Sheffield united produce. That phenomenal shock on wednesday at manchester united. Now they go cross demand city. Can they do the same. They're going to be a huge price is on sky sports. Just how huge price are they call. While they're one two nine. Bruce sat on to shut the united. Sheffield twenty two when the draws eight to one and what you think will. How can you say another shock from the blades call. I don't think so it wouldn't shock and manchester's enough f- for the week fairplay sheffi nine. But you just have to be scared of manchester city's form at the moment eleven games on the bone spruce and they don't look and stop by the big february coming up with their fixtures of the big fabric coming up with the going in there in the best possible shape as well and it looks like the kevin debris an injury has come at a decent time. They've been able to replace him. Catania fire firing the men as well. So they're just looking very good place. Bruce for the fixtures tacoma. I don't see a shock here and it's interesting because you know there's been a lot shocks issue column. We're looking at a table with nine hundred and actual fact. You could outright betting in the cold light of day the bootleg is think vice cities. You know to lose isn't it. What's the title betting yes. Oh muncie are one to four. And of course that would have been updated their sport in the back of united's loss and to sheffield nine a potato one to four liverpool thirteen to two united eleven to one spurs twenty to thirty two one on chelsea hundred fifty two. It's a big grimness. Isn't it dan in so much. Those were expected to relate citing title. I suddenly once a four shitty. I could you argue with those odds and be we'll lay shorten even further after this game short any off. This guy is just bill in that just expected to win comfortably. I think the key is going to be a big febreeze. Been mentioned little spurs weave in the timeframe having the broin was expected to be out. That could be interesting. So and good rushing the lesser teams guiding into the big games about you. Firoz absolutely crucial. So you fast. The comfort is going on skydived. Odyssey when you lay bought ten points the more. I mean such front runners but the insinkerator how they've turned it around them because it was pokes starts the sees muslim. It just the same as fit and sharp as they were watching the game. A- manchester the neo now and it was just on the city. I just same fitter and sharper and whether the the pandemic in the show preseason the united scientific of it might be. That's the case but look not shoppoing the rush on election of that year. That's back to the was a to chelsea where they won that game. Free one brilliant first off and i are marilyn value is tricky off with three nail five to one. Just think you want to. You know put putting bashar. I've been doing that against. It will give huge a think. Survival kit is a better part of a pot dry really. I mean you look at points. They're going to need so he's point. Lead star foam tweet now. The end of the seasons down but might be surprised sued before the end of the season chris. What's the mind united. Oh they got a little bit lucky share food. United with the winner took a deflection. Live trouble caper anyway. But you not to cry a lot. It was a pretty heroic rearguard action. Wasn't it in jag. Alka who i think made his debut for the plates twenty one years ago at the heart of it all it was. It was a terrific performance is very much like last year's chef huge. But is there any hope of flop here. I think it's very unlikely. Go agree with the guys that they're not going to be able to pull off to shocks in manchester as you say still jaggi alka thirty eight years young produced to remarkable performance today and they. They were really depleted shepherds united. They couldn't fill their bench for that game and it really was probably the biggest shot. We'll see this season They do get john. Egan back for this game so they do have another option indefens- because i'm not sure jaggi orcas legs could do another against the top side like city but as he said they have shown a bit of bit more fight of late. I think it's three wins in the last four matches in all competitions now for the blades. So they'll show in signs of life. And as dan mentioned it's tough to find a better value in this game of comfort under two and a half goals city no actually put too many teams to the sword at home. This season only three out of ten league games have gone over two and a half goals of kind of just done enough to win. Games against the likes of brian and fulham who down at the bottom with sheffield united and as is already been mentioned. They won't have to join us for this match and jeffords it might make life a bit tricky for them so just thought under two and a half goes eight to five offer. Just be value based on. What's gone before. I've just checked back. What price schiff oud. United were man. United only ten. And so on. I i kind of twenty one jobs. They have okay. Well west brom and fulham lockdowns at three o'clock and that's on bbc so it will be the most watched guy in the weekend with highest quality. But it could be pretty exciting and it's also fairly close. As far as the betting goes call. Yeah so west. Brom bruce day are twenty three to ten thirteen to ten on. The draw is twenty one to ten a tough punting test dan. You have strong. Not showing the. I think the prices are the match win processor about roy. I think fulham all snotty more likely to win the game. Thought they think he'll be really ready to not attain scores. Many goals both got fifteen goose They say that ready tells you about. The topic is gonna face which quantity tap monitors lineup to say to you. Know to applies on the wings to sean and that's career rebel schreker robinson but says it was a you know. I actually blown away in bring a bodily on a half times. I think he's going to look at here. Even that's fulham. We've got the better. We'll have a chance of winning night's gonna fade into link a low scoring gyn and that means the draw for me is probably going to be value rush on to many people. Take issue with that chris. If you angle forest equality fulham in this one under the favourite cinder. Perhaps a little bit shot in in some regards. I just don't like what west brom producing right now particularly at home that conceded twenty two goals at home in the last five matches. Four of those have been under allardyce. Being touted as pep guardiola's defensive coach in waiting wasn't here before he took this job at west brom so i really don't like what they're producing right now up and quietly quite impressed with fulham one defeat in the last six away from home. The could've one at brighton. last night. They have one clear off the line. Right of the deaths So they were perhaps a little bit unlucky there. And i think they've got a bit more quality about them. Ruben left his cheek. Looks good in midfield at the mola look men and even cavallero i think might just give them the edge. Sworn but it's gonna be tight. I think it's going to be a close game i agree with you. I really like what donald it kind of looked to three games in that they were going to be this season's whipping boys. But i think he's done pretty well. They're made them talk doesn't approach and there's a loss slayer in there you know and they play without fair. I like for the month. I stay up urge. you think they can boost their survival hopes car. Yeah you really do. I've full winners well. I echo everything that you have said as well as scott parker deserves praise for making them so hard to beat and just with what west brom of served up in the last few weeks or not. They're not watertight at the back. That don't have the firepower really to go. And i just take park guests at this one over the line which would obviously be huge in terms of their survival hopes. It was a good point. Losing was on thinkable for fulham against the bright in usa. And i think they'll come here A good mindset and yeah go with the away win here. Yeah okay interesting stuff and also very interesting. I'm sure will be five. The five thirty kickoff arsenal versus menu. It's on sky. Sports cortex through the latest betting. Yes so arcelor are nine to five monday night. At our seventy-five bruce the draw is twelve to five very looking forward to this disaster or getting their act together. Were apply mobile at that. Shaw candidate bounced back. Chris rivers a very difficult question to answer. I think bruce. I'm leaning towards ass. No because the available but i think could be a gateway. Do respond quite well. I thought they played really well in the last away. Match in the league liverpool probably should have won that game and they do ten to raise their game for the big matches. This season having said that they haven't quite got their noses over the line very often have they. They've been involved in three goalless draws against big six sides arsenal of any conceded two goals in their recent matches. I think he's last seven games of the only conceded to and they look pretty good against southampton the other night. They should get back here in any for. This game is a big part of their attacking mentality despite being a left back. There's a chance of bamiyan comes back for this one. The could hand odaguard a run out as well. I do think that the odds kind of pushy towards arsenal even with the united on this long unbeaten run away from home. I think bruno fernandez not playing particularly well at the moment and when he's not playing particularly well united do struggle jus think bruno fernandez could be flat track bully chris i just seem dominate against average and bad teams really not playing against the bet size. Not there's a logic that because when you play against factual position is harder to look good. But i don i spent one or two big games not just looked Looked sure about you yes You could be it could be onto something. Look in the results against the big teams. This season hasn't always done it and it's tended to have been in games away from own way. United have fallen behind so often this season that they've had to push fernandez a bit further forward any said the freedom to do it more so big tests performed is. I think this game because arsenal of look solid defensively. And i think with thomas potts in greenwich jacker midfield that they could dominate. That midfield if if anandas is on top of his game okay. Chris is an arsenal fan. Be very that was unbiased fuel. He goes for us. Know is a man united vanity. It's gonna give us on buzz listening to these notes. Before watch night's. Watch bruce. So i just have to hope that last night we could just put a line century. That one eager saucier has always managed. And it's a signature move to back with a decent performance after a dreadful ones on figures can happen. Just just like the look of ot score and united to win this one here. That was what i was feeling. Think there has been money Bruce for are in the top four and the definitely improved and there was not selected but their win at southampton eight. Do open to last night. I thought of monday night. We're in a much better place than i taught both score any united win. Looked like what i he's you know we have to. We have to just hope. The last night was just a flash in the pan but they were dreadful. It wasn't good Down there should be some time. Shouldn't yeah offense. Y'all snow were quite strongly at shit. A prices off it has been a. It's been happen happened. A abide result for lots heart games of what them and offered impression may as the team. So i've been nicknamed log green. Not sure these a lot about the gaming oversight to watch what i if i caught. You mean an all out traffic out here in the state as well one at art in saudi then single injured off the woods. He's back out. He's was very You know improving saying that flow. Even now is come in an airport. Southampton sock is looking. Great smith is coming up primarily. Well they're gonna push thing also possibly thought for and you're not it might could end up looking over his shoulder in the big names in the league i haven't won six matches against the big so Of if you also an extra days rest which how awesome okay chaps. That will be an interesting guy. And i must say saccharin smith row who. Dan mentioned there to smash implies earth in. I've been a big part in astles revival. The final game on saturday takes place absent. Mary's it's focus on sky itself ends versus aston villa and again an even karnik game as far as betting goes call. Yes so some hampton bruiser seventeen to ten villa or six to four and the draw is five to two i will stick with you for the first stab at nailing the result. Yeah to really tricky one this. I've been seesawing all morning on this simple. I'm going to just put my head just above department here. I'm going to go with aston. Villa win hair just thinks that slightly off in the last couple of weeks and you have to remember united. We're off yesterday. This these teams are playing twice a week. This forms erotica the tiredness coming in. I think that hunting possibly like danny ings. For example you know. He was red hot before he got Positive test he's been in office since so just just goals in the villa side. Every time i watched it. I surprised me even even last night. Dominated possession against bernie bernie were in really good form turf war really hard place to go. Villa dominated possession and had ten shots on target compared to at bernie's five. I just think they were looking to lose last night. And i think they're good on the road just like jack really ships conquered over. How good he is This season under the something that just. They're they're astonishingly go. This year couldn't agree more. They realized on a phenomenal job. Then approaching this game but still can't quite get my head. Villa being favorites awaits south harrison bus. Oppose when you look at what they're achieving the action form this year. We you know we have to start believing. Don't we are not price on. I'll find villa as well. I think the key is not select about their performance. Brady chic nine for finally and i caught is not defined the gripe but he can have have. The old off by defensively. Actually improves a lot of the season. Advise law watkins's coming in at the graham ground. Running greatest has been outstanding. I bought before the season. That's my difference. Well goalkeepers improved as well birth of just think that now or seem brought to be a part of injuries call will appears to the injured list before that the guy against all through the second time against lost three one retired or thoughts and the into young result with injuries. I've got a guy coming off spill. Who scored looks a lot stronger at the moment. the saints. We haven't had too much unity and hall mitzi harmony even with the selection so far but can we get three votes for aston. Villa chris rivers yes. We can I did write my notes on this game before their match against burnley. But i think if you dig a little bit deeper into the guys of already mentioned nick. Pope was inspired last night. For burnley engulf kept out villa. They up sleep peppered. Him and the previous away defeats before that were against manchester city and manchester. United and villa against city ran city as close as anybody after in their winning run. I thought they were really good in that game. An unlucky to lose controversial opening gulf of facility in that one and let dance mentioned. I think something's not quite right at southampton now due to injuries and other bits and pieces they took danny ings off the other night against arsenal after us. Got the third goal. And he bemused. And i'm not sure how that's going to sit with. Him is now one winning seven in the league for southampton and just sliding towards villa. Who had this great defensive record away from home before their their recent troubles. That game against burnley is a bit of an anomaly. And i could see them just edging this one. So yeah. i'll go with biller as well. Three votes for aston villa. That wraps up subsidy. Let's do sunday next. Everything is better when it's bigger party. Power same game. Multi allows you to combine a number of selections from a single match into one. Big bet. Check out the same game multi tab and get building your bet terms and conditions apply eighteen plus dot org four combat's racing post weekend football postcards with bruce millington dentures. Chris rivers and powell's call on. And let's do the four premier league games on sunday. Then we'll see what the let's fancy elsewhere. And we'll get the naps but will start stanford bridget. Twelve o'clock on sunday chelsea form with a new manager burnley with their old manager who is still getting a phenomenal shoe. Now them a brilliant. Three two win over veteran mid weight means that the chances gunned down pretty much nil and they'll fancy following up on that here. I'm sure what price are late. Call to get three points from stanford bridge at burnley. Seventeen to two bruce chelsea. Open up a one-two-three in the draw is fifteen two four sentencing to burnley don charts. Does that do for you know for. I mean you can't make a case for them. You know the fact. I've already wanna live. And i wanna ask wins big six clouds that the difference in quality hero. Obey to my show chelsea. You tend to get a bit of a post you win. A new manager comes in know. Point and i experienced a manager. He's got he's even though the result was against we'll never know. There was a carnival a bit of a reaction in performance. I think at the most chump is irving we admire. It's time before these are shots. Get converted only finally look to stay in the game as long as possible. Be i defend your date. Opiates chelsea. oh we'll get the job done so i just did to bushes shot with a choke. See under three and a half older. Even okay can you. Where did you stand on. Onto as opposed to land power to significant upgrade. A slight upgrade noah. Gray told what you think. A significant upgrade to call a club to league final. I mean i talked to judge in terms of they. You know the the domestic full for hans because the opposition is y- shy wait mean compared to land powered bicycle broke. Someone in there was six. We didn't really if you look at. The statistics moved all be a fool. Spot i've in some very good lung disease. A fair enough. Chris rivers before we get your chelsea burnley result. Same questions you do. You think to will improve the blues. I think he will think he's got more experiences. Dance already mentioned until i was a big problem with lampert when he took the job as the only at one year championship experience behind him an authority go a bit of a free ride through last season. Due to the fact that chelsea had that transfer ban. I think to will come. In and hail really of relish the chance to work with team burner and kaia habits and a few other plays christian pupils secretary knows his time percy dormant changed shape as nina and. I think he's going to change the shape of the chelsea side. I should say. I think you will get the results from them is a bit of a small sample size. Just going off the wolves game but they dominated possession. I think that the results will start to come. May be starting this weekend. Just talk us through the the fundamentals. Very basically chris of that formation change. Yeah you went. Well he started out with three four three deneen than he was playing a couple of tens behind giroud upfront It was a real change in shape. He went with a few more experienced players. As well as telco silva the back in jerus- lead in the line and you can understand not given the form that your roots bidding this season. So it's going to be difficult for time. Abram mesa amount maybe to to force their way back into the sides and that will be a concern for them with the euros approach in and he will change up a little bit Change apple. I should say. And he's not. He's not quite got the star players that used to habit. Psg name marin kilian mbappe to fall back company certainly got plenty of quality in this chelsea. I do me have been underperforming. When lamp was in charge interesting. Yeah i mean. I think the one fundamental things done is he's realized of. The abraham is off to a one of lamps. False was the gave him far too much chance instantly. He'll he'll reap benefits from that. We shall see called. What do you make of this game. Yeah well i just think that. Obviously the new manager benz is a huge thing in football burnley. Really hard to beat at the moment playing. Well good win for the mid week just starting with chelsea though on the back of these players are auditioning such a front of their new manager. And of course. I just fuzzy. Chelsea on data as well as just tight pitched stanford bridge a distinct that they'll shade if mostly and i think there was. He only had one training session before the wolves much. I think there were were small positive. Certainly in the way possession as you gentlemen have just a little too. That's the way he's a. He's just changed shape. I'll be interested to see the first eleven on the stick and with the same attack as well. So there's lots of intriguing much to watch the next month ahead with chelsea said to see how thomas to go but ultimately i think he's a good manager. Okay we move onto the two o'clock. I'm less diverse leads. It's on sky. And how do you patty. How bad hair call. Yes so lester. Are four to five bruce leads. Three one drawer is fourteen to five. I can't knock that forty five less journeys actually bigger out there with other firms. Chris can you deter me from a decent thump on the. Fox's no i think lester the weekend in the premier league okay i'll put your name next to it. If he'll go wrong. I really liked the fox's thought they were very good against everton for large parts on wednesday. And how jamie saudi been fair. I think they probably would have won that game quite handsomely. They soar off leads really easily in the in the reverse fixture By four goals to one in the end and they're playing pretty well at home right now. School two or more in in for the last five at home in this is a league side who these hate to hear it. But i still think they look a little bit tired of towards the end of that game at newcastle newcastle and. They just concede far too many chances. They've conceded twenty one goals away from home. This season and the keeper is always busy lead. United and i could see less to win. This won quite comfortably of just soft boosted the price for listed to win with over one and a half goals. Eleven to ten at. I think this might have a few goals in it. Mainly going in the back of the lead united net. Excellent good. I'm glad to hear one endorsement. I get to in -dorsements with leeds. Here i'm going to go with leicester as well. Four to five just been impressed with them of lakes like pretty much. Most people and james madison harvey at the olive goals in them as well. And we nova jimmy. Vardi is on the sidelines. But they still have to firepower and harvey burns madison. I think they just have to have goals in the at this last or side. So i would i would. I would eat up. Gobble up to four to five. Lester us by dan. If we're going to be slightly ten prior enthusiasm we want indeed to be fit because as you said earlier in. The show is really influential playoff disney. Would you still be less here. I think a good charleston. Dedi cook miss out. Let's see the comments that a guy in the session before halftime and nothing could be k. Actually here and i'm gonna. I'm gonna actually. I will lead to win of value a. It was an interesting on bathe eight. Ten gandhi started Lester of twenty three points ten guys. He hasn't explained. Points is a big difference when he plays and when he thousand foot in weekend off. We come on yeah. They made a big difference as well. I really did start to the lot better when he came on. So that's inacio perceived quality being out for less there's always Important and a wilkinson. He did not consider. The everson had noted coronel knew that now primary central midfield something a bit but we can never to him. I actually all leads a little bit busy period lightly. My elton is a free weekend certify topics it you call one site on. I'm doing okay when the season about well might be like to do something as well as from an al-qaeda intriguing at four thirty again. It's on skies pose west ham versus liverpool western plan. So well they've really become a terrific side. Liverpool are desperately trying to rekindle the spot that city of have discovered an capitalized on calico bounce. Back here after pretty ropy run a full. Most lights expecting call. And who do you fancy three. two one. four. To five of the draw is fourteen to five to the tough games keep coming for the really is a tricky fixture list for them in terms of this much hair boutiques going to draw pill to me certainly at seven under two point five goals around eleven to ten but i like michael antonio anytime thought he was really looking against policy to not to at least score a couple of key hit the work a couple of times he missed a sitter as well to he looks dangerous against the kind of ropy kind of liverpool defense. So he'd be one that i be keeping an eye on two tough games. Keep coming for for liverpool in europe and club. I certainly do. Dan officially tough. I mean how impressed with what what moyes is done. They see extremely impression are kicking myself really are the a couple days ago. Yeah think you sometimes get ahead. 'cause it's west sign that the the bubble's gonna up. You've got to look real man. Look i will find out how offensively while they're structures going forwards power him coming back on. He's been really important. Get back to fitness rooms now. Coming in to look for in a bit of a spot for them in there as well boeing's already could season an aunt she thinks you know you sings the line. Time me or a big pro. Gotta go with end to win the game. Eight extra days rest as well. Which is he's now still got lots of injuries. Knocking around henderson. Mike combat you know for the game wherever he's going to be. I would apply comeback from injury and play too big game in in Sean spicer who knows you. And i think Would like defensive or go with you all the way there. And i'll tell you what dan roisin unsuitable great so engine. They give the tain donelly weaknesses. You look for the sorry defense midfield. The there aren't many witnesses. That this chris. You're going to be opposing liverpool. Yeah we'll be. I'm not going to be as brave as you guys. I think for the the drawer in this one. At west time play liverpool quite well in terms of recent meetings liberal to come from behind to win the last two games against west ham and at the game at anfield thinking had they had a bit more luck. Wests time i think they were at without antonio that day. That they might. Well have nick. To appoint from game amfiled Just don't know whether west the caller against the big sites to to overcome them yet in a sin the likes of chelsea manchester united recently. Get the better of west time and david moyes has never had a great record against liberal. Boise wherever is being wonder whether some of these things will come back against west ham as well as i've been playing enjoyed watson from west ham of late. Did you say about antonio. I think he's a fantastic player to lead the line and will give the liverpool backline a few problems but i do think liverpool's quality will see them take something from this game arcade and finally as far as criminally goes this weekend seven fifteen sunday night live on sky sports brighton versus spurs call. What's the latest from petty powerfulness. The bruiser twelve five spurs or eleven to ten and the draw is twenty three to ten and back with mr charles. To go first daniel beloved yeah i splurge actually corporate price share it. So you know. It's against all surprised. When i saw on hopping it sir looking in the see that you think i'm being so he should push the air but now i think spas i've got the bad plies in the key areas of the pitch long as liberal gyn relatively on skype injury wise so they should get the job done even as there is a bit more strengthen debt by through now our file on wick but he looked a sharp as he has done since he in a humidity does happen to kind of sonya. You're still a good company. Brought season on the behind three wins. All season has always been a record has been rightful for a long time like continue to recite about voter time. But sir you know have issues in both boxes real near mark pilots get fouls not many also elsewhere offering the top score apart from him in the league is i only to goes beyond siwa especially. Yeah that that they're in danger of kind of born the thing they way out that division prettily but ineffectively. Can you give any chart said chris. It's tough to make an argument for the as dan's already mentioned that home records absolutely appalling is new winless in fourteen home in the league. I think they're only victories is in the cup against blackpool did not go any kind of momentum behind them at high when the big six rock up at the amex stadium the tend to get what they've come for arsenal chelsea manchester united. Real one at the this season did manage to hold liverpool to a drawback. Can't see them doing the same against the spurs side of Decent away record in the league the season for best away from home that's conceded that the fewest goals on the road. In the league. And a conceit tottenham picking up the three points you looked at the price and thought i being silly am i missing. Something with the spurs eleven to ten per as long as you can uncover any Any problems i think. That's that's a decent bet to have my. The thing is called. As dan said they even if taught them all to pick up a couple of injuries. This huge depth scored isn't as scott covering pretty much every single position. So you with tournaments welcome. Yeah i agree. I think i think definitely one thing that josie deserves credit for as well as their debts. The season in key positions just looks lot better and we might even see 'em what even make it a little bit of a cameo i and this much but i do go with spurs good on the road record. Eleven of their last twelve their undefeated on the road. And i like brighton. I like what the tune. But i just don't have the firepower and i think I think spurs a collect. Three points Josiane patty power renegotiation. Negoti added did if if putty assigned good marine cooking. Okay thank you very much. That is the premier league action wrapped up. Let's see what else the boys fancy just jiffy here at patty power. We're the home of the money back special with incredible offers every single week. Check out the website or app today. Terms and conditions apply eighteen plus begun dot org. Welcome back we've seen inset set coming out with that louis. Sorry welcome back. We've heard what the lines fancy for the ten. We can primarily guns. Let's see what else they think. That might be a bit of value. Further down the league's and maybe also in europe. Dan charles. what do you got for us. My friend fancy in the championship. Stike plop to Elisa hottest nothing to ten about a little bit of a dodgy. Ron lightning lot drawers. One one one last ten league games but i don t come back for the the narrower to wonder if eight to what fully on television statement fleshes come back into the saudi makes a big difference about from. Don't wanna miss. Owed the setup they like go against google pup aussies by the side now and live it very very well as well looks good addition of against that how does field. What seventy injuries. At the moment us choice filled his characterizing. John poke fats affected and big toggle allows five games in competitions. You know for the that button free will guys might get dragged into. Relegation bows dan. You say that my friend kareem who is a huddersfield seasons. He killed her not that she's this season but the point is he goes every game and he he thinks his new managers the greatest thing since lie spread and he sent me a screen grab of the stats for the defeat against bristol city huddersfield. I think they wanna coon account thirteen. Twenty nine six. It was incredible. Bob you you you against that. The risk boxer already got who they are chasing the game so yeah they're going to likely to be more dominant when they choice in a game by look very watching. The highlight shaw. Very shy kid. About one of the goals i can say. It was a poet in and pursue. I'll show a very similar to sing. What foot and they wanna push names for the plight season siwa. Many nice likes the back from the last me. I've also got a fancy from the championship as well qualified. Look swansea to win at rotherham at five to four really impressed with what steve coupe is doing with swansea again after. They made the playoffs as a rail outside. Lassie's their walk. Chris team manages better than swans if they have banned one. The has been a few but it's not been trying to move very substantive really good and they're they're lovely starts watch only here. Maybe carlos carbon. How you might say wasn't the best appointment burr. I think you're right in saying that. They play keep that same system in how they play. That brendan rodgers really introduced quite some time ago. Now and they they have done really well with cooper he's got excellent contacts. Get in place on loan to From premier league sides via his stint as the england under seventeen hundred nineteen head coach. Was it and the play really well again at the minute. They did They held to a draw in midweek when they're down to ten men which is no mean feat because brentford been going well and they go to rotherham who've been poor home of late that form one of the last five swazis away forms pretty good nothing five four good price also quite like severe when eibar even money in in la leaguer as well severe going great guns at the minute. They scored an amazing goal by the way is was checking out in the copper dowry amid week great team go front to back it was well worth Search that one and they play an eibar side. You've got the worst home record in laliga. The season winning ten only scored five times. And i think even money's a decent price with severe to win that. Thank you very much indeed. Chris co what we got. I do not give your nap away. I won't give away or just I like the look at the canaries. Norwich against sprint brenda lunchtime kick off in the championship. Leaders there four to five boroughs lost Three hundred last four knowledge of one nine of twelve games in all competitions their impressive the one of the riverside as well back in november one nil so no complications. Therapy like the forty-five about norwich. Well it's funny. You should say that. The call. Because i wanted the regular host this show giant rave who is pretty not is number. One fan said you poison. Ford's five normally know. He can never hear of defeat even last season they still feel. I'd stop about my but hated me. Slide careful here he said because pook might not be fit so that might be something you might want to check before you lump on a four to five by did agree with you anyway. Those are the other tits. Let's get the weekend nets now. Takeaway steve palmer is will not be right then. dan charles. You can start going to go down to lead so so foot two. I'm gonna guy for our sofa just in in saudi plow place in league to mind but they're very ambitious club. They're going to be solved in those. Those taught free vices showtime that transfer market recently got pull coach on live fleetwood probably got so long relates to if you'll pliers fight a much higher level than just think that They gotta be pushing into that free album citing the hoffner soon it will also Cheltenham choosy apply of hope. Sir avert she. They'd run winning the last seven games. One clean sheet season. That was the only against grimsby already. Pull shot so that the offense record is the worst in the region's sofa a kite. Thank you don. Knapp spurs are that leaves your clear on at leicester fence it. Chris or you might have something else. I have looked elsewhere. I've gone to leak one for this oxford to beep fleetwood oxford the form team in ligue one right now that won the last five scored sixteen goals during that run and the absolutely flying at the minute. Society started the season really poorly but slowly climbing the table. And i think we'll probably finish up in the playoff places. They're taking on a fleetwood side. Something doesn't seem quite right. Not one since joey barton left the struggling for goals. That's coincided with chet evans. Going out the door at fleetwood as well and it's been pretty good at the back of late of won the last three at home. Two nil and i can see them. Shutting out fleet in picking up a result again splendid. Thank you very much. Chris and call what she'll best bet the weekends according to minds. But i just think lester five to six against leeds on sunday. Two o'clock bruce. Just too juicy to ignore. I know indeed is a major doubt for the game and still fancy rogers just tactically to have this tabby else in his pocket for this much as well. And i say harvey barnes humans madison's goals away from party in this lesser team. And i just think it's too good to ignore to cluster. I'm with you on that okay. So the net. 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Prememento #127: Season 4 Episode 6 - Stuart Pearce

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Prememento #127: Season 4 Episode 6 - Stuart Pearce

"You can just feel the details. I can feel extreme moments. And if you don't want to. Put these together and get the feel of a person. I'll tell you honestly I will look if we have. Fifty nine percent win ratio and the primarily. I'm not. Playing. Mind Games I'M TALKING ABOUT FIGHTS Discussion Never Pixie bulleting. What is he doing the work? That's what people's vote trying to pinks and climaxes. To get let down by officials you know role on rail whether I'll be too old to see. But that's why you need the. I prefer to speak, speak. In. Big. Trouble. The Best I can say. Describe. Off. What was Really. Good. There was a moment when I think about whether, I'm going to go the usual statements with which generally don't tend to go anyway. It's almost as if. I've got these days. The half biked might be slow to kill ten or twenty minutes while we get through at least the first one bay may be two of this podcast. You should see what's on the cutting room flow on one of the reasons why I wanted to speed through this intro it's because, of course, simply of the Tom Kerridge. Obviously, the Kuroda virus and the not being able to go into football grind full potentially the next fifty, seven thousand years. But still we do have all major annoyances on the MOINA, annoyances. Moina annoyances even in regard to the schedule which still have to deal with international football. For today's in Troy he's international fobel underrated. Now owned the race it I think it's no longer as much the pinnacle as it was before especially, the English receptionist that playing for your country should be the highlights of your career and you should cruelty the splintered glass and snake pits and also start where the longtime ago. Yes and that kind of transition parliament's objections to the price as kind. Of the death of there's a whole variety of reasons full. That's funny. Enough one of them's called if the ease nowadays of seeing football from of a cup chance of a national tournaments affiliate, generally we seem old football dad full. The full that we see hasn't been fantastic. I do have a theory about so I'll just get a lenient on this in terms of the what they the. Into football has gone through a solo vehicle or saw coals of being really really really important and not as important. Do think specifically England, a reached a little bit more important, and I think we're going back the other way. Now again, I think Clo- football impotency influenced by how good your own t miss if you teams don't particularly right than you don't prescribe as much imports to the whole team good that it becomes the most important thing in the world as regards. England and. Imports be downplayed a bit I think the facts euro twenty twenty didn't happen as some of the reason I was thinking about actually because. I disobeyed we'd. Down with ten I think also types of the football on offering the first international break from England wasn't particularly great I saw childhood obstacle which said that this was the worst England team since of the Graham Tyler which I was sluggy Hauch I you go through a whole series ago. teams have we had. Since then but I think also in elements of its especially a battle like in the last time things dangerous. The F. I was promoted English football by introducing more restrict quite system in the primarily homegrown plays private league is an organization is having none of it. Inevitably, you end up in a situation whereby the pool of Plas- isn't quite as good because the top league is required to places much value and it's all development. The difference between the grind tidier in the current here is tied era. The top was predominantly all English, are we were still crap? Hat, this cyber more seriously, which is the when of English football is good or whenever the England football team is good. International footballers whole is not very good. That leads me to my second point, which is a thing Michelle is now suddenly shit again. Does that mean the international masterful is going to be good again. Spanish Buddhists have to wait and see types I think. From such from European perspective if you cannot, what's a high quality football a day of Champions League match or of Standard European qualification match that's going to be Champions League. We've had this conversation before very many iterations off the podcast in the sense that. Don't think you necessarily subscribes Siri to the time to create new joy do but I think at least in the light knowing t's definitely in the mid two thousands the champions. League you saw the woke up as the top footballing competition while I mean is that like marketing question was is international slowly underwrites it now, which is everything call near the Wa or even started his podcast as a joke about look how much of a bud is about international food and? Generally speaking qualifies unfriendly. Friendly's friendly's. Quite Vexing Oh in terms of my official rankings after the Champions League in terms of actual quality in actual enjoyment. When get to knock out stages brought below dot es woke up football you don't get welcome football without international football. Yep. Is True and will copies still a pinnacle. It's just the pinnacle loves the Problem Nas wife seems to think it's not great the differences. In England Games and example, and a game for you clock. So in the grand scheme of things, what's probably more important game a League Cup second round game, all a nation's league much routes is probably a nation's leave much but I did it for various reasons watch either of England's recent games in the nation's league but I did sit down to enjoy the cup second round game between veteran burn. Tons of clothing, country, loyalty, average game, warden, nothing game, grand scheme of things. You've you're always more likely to advocate are more than what's seen as a average international and I think it's partly because you know otherwise. Popular opinion most of the time we all lucky if you ought an England fan because most of the time we're going to be qualifying for tournaments. So you can kind of in your mind generally bypass cod qualifies you might avenue. Virus game where you lose to somebody who you should at least a but generally not Johnson, you're going to be the World Cup you're going to be the Rois. So he skipped a couple years qualifies that just sit down for the business end of tournament wears well depending on what League Team USA. Pool. There's no guarantee that is going to be something better at the end of it when we were younger generally tended to get said solve on. A graph of apathy within soybeans overall the aussies apathy with England. So it within specific clubs but movie younger, you would get the big clubs that would generally tend to have the majority of the England players and I don't think they destroyed to didn't care. It was just a case of dot was the white walls and then you've got to the golden generation as you are a very tate devoid. Playa said felt up all the vices of the topography. Such comments afterwards studied the Chelsea Plaza Lou who blasted. Players all kind of out backs up attitude. So people have argued is one of the reasons why not golden generation didn't actually. Achieve Anything, then within not though you hud those clothes but you also Hud plies applied full other clubs in the Premier League I'm because of the level of talent applying waste, there was a certain level of reverence there aside life of always good as well. I'M GONNA use Villa's the puffing example and I'm not trying to slack federal off but there was a competition for prices there. The you're the bottom end of no one below villa was getting a shot at the England squad I think it's to go generation was because we had outrunning Europe and English tree in the final for X. Amount. And they were a Liverpool arsenal menu. Think Chelsea reached a final not era, but they were bubbling under. Your being competition. So as all my favorite golf goldies pies at the top of your, we need to bother anyone else and he probably signed terms of being team to being the vice accessible in our lifetime are being teams. Weather was a mix applies if the devoid in they said since as split in terms of the top division than what you're saying is the. The Fun- biases domestically, all not really seeing any these players on a diet, diabetic tweet, Isis, and so therefore, what you would have had on a might be fifty fifty style in the nineties of Lower League lower division funds watching these pliers in two, thousand six, the devoid between the fan vices was even to a lesser extent bomb off of the premier league not summed up on the. Facts for two thousand six, which is always uses the ultimate example of England Selection Fair Will Cup cancer woke up if I woke up with Steph Fountain at the top scorers announced that has no chance he would have been in that school because he was Austin at Ben Gut Satis, lots of rapid thousand thousand. That was the ultimate example of that big lebas this being or will it? Good we're not just doing this for the sake of it. We are doing this because of very specific reason. This is the program that podcast is true Quigley along saw out of ours always in a five say someone from the game number one in the second season, we went from twenty and eighteen, Twenty Dante. All I bought of incarnation the last year, we told the story of. The primarily through ply themselves and this time around we are going one step farther on looking at the men behind those plies on the stories with the clubs the most associated with therefore everything you've heard up until this point has been a setup I wanNA kick things off properly boy a Musky the same question I asked every single podcast what is your general consensus opinion of Stuart Pearce. Go. Reaction Ready Day much. Achieved the laws apply at Gosawx as a manager because he was a great by any types of the determination, which is always good attribute that was going to bit the second storage almost the exact opposite of his England plank rid which most look fans you know terms of momentus moments in our lifetime pierce is probably if you're gonNA tonight Ted is in at least two of them. One good one bad. I was a good one is probably in more top dollar that Scott, how highly Schulman's regard caught even the consciousness as manager he added international management career which completely forgotten about he went on for a lot longer. Before how to look at the research? The wreck lectures once Oldman we did terrible. Oh. Yes. So much. So honestly now completely forgotten even to charge of an England game as caretaker manager I didn't. Run, three hundred defeat to pollen some sexual I was one amazing stuff from that, which is the idea that he's in doing. So became the most capped England player to manage England. Sunday, not lever can anytime soon but here's the thing all to suggest which is given the situation rounding on same the time I want to just point to. A manager coming in in Law Mazi. March February. Other. No it was like that year euros dot year. Couldn't stu of the job that particular point towing a name we moved on from there just giving that summer because he's already doing something that's Amore Anyway. Well couldn't have done much worse. I mean we could have gotten downtown groups is I guess but you back at it now you ask the question of did the England team progress of the Roy Hudd should I. Think mice people are GonNa. Say. TIMES, of the way in which by Ryan's could go wrong. If student pays would about the same manager rule run at the England job hunted, you would probably have much a yeah a conversation. But then almost as allude to those slide, veges suggest the peers mud the just as bad as Hudson. If not worse, it's an interesting wife of history because if pay. Get seeing the job fulltime there's no chance south guy gets after ultimately the question of voice you it pays didn't get the job he got another job and looking back at the old is more frustrating and really bizarre given you come to think of it in the he was given the task of caretaker manager of England for one game but yet should piss got a really. Interesting job, which was he took charge of Great Britain for the Olympics. So thankful I can say one of two things on one hundred dollars can go. Okay. He didn't getting job because she was the manager of Blackburn Olympics on the other hand occupy I. Why didn't he do bugs for? And then we re evaluated from there. I would have been able to prepare Olympic team properly if England would have gone deep in the. Euros. It was probably not if he would have won the Olympics I think the amount credit I would have been a bank for subsequent devas will have been grinding increased. He wins the Olympics do you not think this is Lloyd. Question, how does he not replace? It should immediately found simple facts at the time. Hodgson was seen as having two days in jail. I mean I'm not GonNa say it was a universal opinion and it was a spirited traditionally before for most of the guy hanging off penalties and that losing. So if yours masculine user pedal is you like, Okay Yeah, you got past speakers about his that would have been a climate I. think if he would've won the Olympics feasibly, it is unfair of me to suggest that he could have been both England participation in the euros and starts Jalali. until pretty much the end of July. But you're not gonNA find as an F. I on the ordeal that you're going to get knocked out other he said do bugs. Yeah anytime. It was literally possible to do by. Could've caught, fly back free weeks to get from my cut it. So it is possible types of the mental kind of tall. It's just all managing in a big tournament audio. Good. It's Olympics especially with the home situation. Brilliant. Great bread does the thing as well is it would have been slowly disrespect for to just go. Yeah. This manage England he's GonNa Minded Gina. Yeah. Especially because of. Out? The constitution team? Shall we say I played with frozen that over whole nations? He weren't particularly happy. About the arrangement in the first place. But yeah, I've of the perception of this is an aid. Even, the majority of the plas data out being leash would've been held or. Of the country. So I didn't get swept up with Olympic fever this particular parental a watched might be too if the games but I never really got sense of what was going on like what do you remember about this? Was it like a big deal? Did Anyone Really K. was a thing that football told? Tight rated about it I think it was because Great Britain got tally. We applied massively well for most of it, which on its own does disqualify. Great Britain or England team from achieving called states as you most of what we are employed most of the Games those all at first before the tournament about the makeup of the team there was a feeling of wherever this was based on everything. Apart from hosting of wit if I ever or wearing a deep tournament, this is our types that it wasn't really much of consideration really of what the group stage should be. Because in terms of I've group Senegal Uruguay Ui year, we're going to. Answer did in terms of group stage I mean wait be. So an element of dot really pints much tension. is expected to get out. So then you end up next round way career a Finnish female. Career, she's going to be played resilient. A qualified is going to be great sal guess ready for that, and then he was a bit of a other. Sight Show Joe but? A combination. Of England penalties. Stupid. Do Macci Yourself. I'd have also a Pob as you mentioned on Cudi and manage. The National English team. and. The Olympic tape was because there was a tournament weighing plight that was a acceptance, the any English plan it was not national team for the euro's wasn't going to be Vicks, but I think there is an element of why Gossip is because if say he played in that team most of the plaza member and I say most of using rate liberally well, plas- he would English gigs, Wisconsin, another pool of Shem Ironman, but Benedetti plight. But if not, I've got squad list, it brought to me and stop patsy but it would put me a black piece of paper and said right down the tape I wouldn't go anywhere. Really I think because that wasn't the stop. The economy. Has Been. Quietly removed the consciousness because we didn't win. Wow, we have been good team anyway. So what was all the fuss about sets to gently rushed? The COP also picks was successfully Nova Sport. So we did do is I will allow this one even with the England team in in the euro. So detained implies out there is still kind of feeling Gov slacked off scarlet. Really. Must have been a young kid at Scotland, Del. Lap Front, our Ramsey's in that squad. Neil Tyler before they used as experience for twenty sixteen. So it's it's not bad team you look. With the benefits are good, he's Going to win the Olympics. It's an interesting one because the two unique opportunity a tone but it did seem to at the very least underlying eight thing. All Shoe it pays we said he was going to get the England job, but he's in the settle and kissed Gripe Virgil because he's the England on the twenty one much. I feel very long period toy, N-, and this is a really interesting period in time. For Youth football spine in the latitude thousands set the deck full cat. We've got all these kids coming through on wish she toxically William Have Everson, and then jump in twenty ten. When Oh actually you know are we should all kids the coming tour and in around this time the were of to really to this day. Actually I have a spot for England on the twenty one side always tie between we're. Going to try and go on and do something versus everyone any good gets immediately catapulted into the first episode. Bashir pace is front and center full fashion. You tournaments of England qualifying for the under twenty one's versions of the euro, the World Cup, and it comes down to this days. What do you want from you under twenty one team? Do you want them to progress international sodas quickest possible you want to? Get used to winning things to an interesting on his well especially when we're talking about this international break with the nation's league, because nations league was coined of developed to ally Java nations, it's to give them a chance to win and the question you go yourself fees do you want to put football is in a position to win? Would you want to put football is in a position to the game of? I of England House, the twenty one level as you play for the national team, you know pacing the body of the never come back. Yeah. But some it's been a situation where I never played for twenty one. So whip straighten whereas maybe coaches with even wide resources than us in terms of plus when it comes to a big tournament, they will stop the deck. Do think you should apply the best under twenty one team what do you think you should just let the ply have the experience Staying but the reality is primarily bay clubs. Planning Champions League IT Talks Pressure Plaza get up. Lie Out because the power dynamic Sweden prevalence. Is Pretty much solid. Privately calls the shots the romantic in me says, you've played by state I've into practical side of me says, the apply you stay because that's winning coach. Health Center vitamin even intensive at this period. When Pierce was in charge, he got to a semi-final in a final scene is progressive I was we're on the cusp of something whereas recently when we run as good luck under seventeen under eighteen to nineteen, that's all the level of won the World Cup for. That at a few of those plaza beginnings, a maker impact, and you know it'd be too simplistic to say of which. Is Rain which case because Guardia City is been responsible for developing English players even cloth has been responsible for developing English class as a simplistic as forest. I do think everything that we've been speaking about those come to a head in Tom's of strip searches module a career in the two thousand and knowing under twenty one European Championships Germany England four. Now I'm GonNa ride off a applies always making richards. Nedeau Manoa caring gapes. noble sable caught James Milner. Very, very good solids primarily professionals the Germany team, and again I'm not halting Mamo Noah. Drum. Boateng Benedict Toy is Matt SOMOs Semiconductor Mazza also, and that doesn't even going to contemplation two of the three goal scorers that day if you look at the legacy of the plies, the named in Germany so it sometimes it just comes down to WHO's got the ban applies about yet, and if you wagon guy free that fooling length fourteen new played on that day, how many of them went to be truly great players one out of the impact on the top level winning trophies and being parv great teams want to if you being extremely generous you. Jeremy. Out in the world cal, how one Champions League? The were in grapevine same dorm and team that I suppose the element of economic do what you covered the pleasure golf and also team is more divided manager being played in that fight of most of you probably say fabulous determined work hard get stuck in, which is a traditional English way applying is fortunately not traditional way of winning major told them Ashley in the Grand Scheme of things. So I think even getting smashed in the fine at the time I'd I'd say particularly diluted the reputation well evidenced by the fact that he went on begets mentoring. Planning fix also talking about when the credit in the bank began to run out as it were. We got back to the tournaments in two thousand eleven and got knocked out in the group. That was the weight of. this whole idea of a discrepancy between international football up a toy was playing random friendly's will run them teams, buses plying team self respect to quality all ever happened was the team's issue beat we should bait teams we shouldn't be we didn't. Not Two thousand nine we have some good results but I in terms of the heights of expectation it was in two, thousand, nine years he said he was seen as the peak two, thousand eleven slightly betsy would be sliding more disappointing the way panned out. You got to a final said, it's a bit of credit in the bank as it were, and then you're gonNA get tape. At. Hours disgrace on when I went into the store over there. And then we lost every. The fact, he wasn't a very good group in keeping twits. Leonen Game Okay and then the over two games Norway is route. When you look at the squad again I, remember the time thinking Oh we got a good team now looking back now the squad it's not great but then that's a limitation of. Under twenty one squad it's of gets pit. Best is a bit of a live. So diverse in terms of the past, because the manner of the axes, kind of wherever is wrong the feeling of we're going backwards but dot com total wipeout in terms of Bundler spin around voice any so long you gonNA keep guy before eventually say you need a good to great? Very good excellent word you want us to get consistent tournament wins out of the squats that pays out other things criticism or a particularly outrageous led to say in the annals of managerial history not going to go down is great. Excellent. You look in terms of. Did A. K. hasn't good spells also kind of cloak not going in exactly in the best circumstances in the world ever. Was the phrase is it making silk s man for most people got pigs there you go. Now with a big, it's not meant to be a massive criticism tonight. You'll. Great it's funny actually when I started this asteroid your at least just the that he might have been in contention for the enjoying twelve, and then when you look at just Berry, Dior Day that he's actually not very good with England. One talent but we're GONNA have to move on to he's choke primarily create. Yes. We've come this far into the parliament of hocus without factually touching on an actual premier league game should pay actually managed to primarily teams and knowledge demise not one but two league teams. Both of them is particularly interesting parts of the history and if you listen to this podcast before and also as well if he's not gathered the fact that we've been doing this to this point, we go from the end of their primarily credit to stop. So that's what. We've been doing much in the way we've been negative. So I fall sure paces last game in charge of I primarily club as the phone game off two, thousand, six, two, thousand, seven spas against Manchester City spas managed to win two one at White Hart Light. It's not the game he might be thinking of, if you have a brief recollection of the history of this particular fixture, you'll be thinking of the I'm Web scored a goal that Spicer's the Champions League. This is slightly less consequential. It's just Roy Keane. UNDENIABLE DIMITAR BERBATOV SPAS to. Emil in Penza school is before half-time which illustrates the era of Manchester City. We are at this particular tour. You can't really have too many complaints I mean grow in is. To go home and comes in on a free Daba comes in on a free Michael Bull comes back. Up, period, in Penza came in on a free, you call really have tuned complaints if you guide socks after that no, it terms of. Some of the stats we mentioned the previous incarnations podcast. They don't score a goal home after New Year's Day for a grand total of Ted, which is a lowest in top-flight history. Tour breaking records, and in terms of use the results have lock five-match losing streak from the second half John Rita Milla. March. But then we free games out four to five much of being run I mean they wouldn't let games away from home. Obviously. Not scored I, WanNa get credits bull home drawer against Liverpool to end up streak that momentum doesn't carry on again, the seasons unfortunately, they lose four out of the last five tricky. Lose weight asked no lose hosts might UNITED LOSE TO VILLA AWFULLY? Obviously have tricky game gets better as you mentioned but even. Those kind of results are usually leaving you on a tiebreak. Yes. Sacks I think it's a case of where you all away your ambitions are a club and it's easy to look sixty nine and go. Oh well, they're ambitions were higher in there so. This obesity to be under performing but. Over back into a lot of city seasons. When is this? The performing I'm not sure is I think in terms of when you look in terms knows cold heart starts it while it is for. Book. Here's the situation time whereby they had some money and it usually wasted on a big striker stepped forward this season Bernardo Corradi. Did nothing and decimated that transport budget apart from that they were scrambling around but you're looking in terms of overall performance and if they are under achieving I mean they come forward. With forty two points which they have streaks of losing games. And if Ronin sold applies in the team, the goal is exerted on the plaza came in for. Mark Rich Shits even island Joey Barton this done Donnie meals fish done. Johnson traveled sinclair. So it's not right thing. Is it a that should not score home goal for half a season pretty much probably not. Reliable of anyone won't be for I. Don't think we see something stutz on Sun teams and he slowly. The, some things that will never be broken and when I saw things, I mean Dhabi's points to record the bottom Chelsea's goals tally conceded in four or five, and as such I'm not entirely show the not scoring hung goal in half per se he's A. Republican. Well, actually she also moines iskoe's can only be just as simple Cumana soy that doesn't score on goal from November on woods. Yeah. Got Renegade but you take us style windy you took it away you say is fourteen or Forty points is that the limit of what that team? Could have achieved is that all that team could have expected This is nice looking in terms of the teams he'll come to both the. Season where reading tight the League by storm and I've got boss and who we talked about bridge ago nations. Then not team. History had been do better than sissy it a top flight, for example. Portsmouth had money obviously by is folded real fake money start coming in even though it could be Middlesbrough a couple of the. Different stories but I still think in terms of that title was still a slight under achievement with the team that they had even though I'm not saying was a championship winning side or company side or even a European qualifying side i. mean it's always a case of aggressive green on the other side. Well, these teams on good as us, historically doing k., and then you throw in condit a stats about the yet get a go live in terms of fans can usually puts up with more if they see their team sern positive style of play or progress being made runs like that quickly dispelled. Optimism. That may be The fan base, but it is a case for pay estimator around safe. I would have had the money that I'm not surely followed. The next occupant of the hot seat could've done a bad job similarly could say to the under twenty one jobs. If I had a fool plethora of eligible players, I would have done a bad job but I think the reality that limitations in both of those jobs by the end. But that was not over achievement or there was not hit the ceiling attention achievement. It's an odd one because for club like Manchester City you we can only. Talk about historic context within the last ten years of money unmitigated success and dive down what they've done on such a grand scale. But like for as much as everyone looks to Taipei of Manchester. City. Prior to old Mona the still historic club their club to which he would go the performances within this time on par maybe slowly under when you look at it and you go looking at finishes of Fulton on fifty and off suspense No they're all funds of clubs these days to go lola L- Manchester City Fifteen, sixteen years ago we used to finish positions but. They became the team they became Nye the head of the history of the hunt, and at this point, this was. I WANNA say Guzzi go because he clearly wasn't but h one of the better toy NHS wealth identified degree without combat because in terms of. Natural seeding but we talked about the run in the lower half of two, thousand, sixty, thousand seven, which lost his job. But you go in back in terms of a run at the end of the previous season, I five or six where was in charge is near before season they gonNA run of their last ten games will lose nine. Ted I mentioned the one game. They won bulb. As mentioned. You're looking for progress you went into the suburbs second full season. Okay. Got Benefit the Dow. We ended dreadfully book. We showed enough in the first half of the season to suggest that maybe something there, and then asleep does need to be mentioned that they have to sell Shaun wright-phillips for big money in between those two seasons. But there is also a familiar pattern that season of not having a lot of money wasted most VILNA strike. He doesn't end up doing a huge amount but party bystanders city that's probably has become a bit of a cold here I suppose in some of this is the point I was trying to Mike Cohen. You said, you disagree with me, which is the sense. The city that we know now modern died and they have some implies the have one exponentially more than attain particular era but and again I'm going to slowly time by the case loudly further to previous era but someone showing Goto is much more of a figure of, Omega reverence than. Someone like at inject for example, who we spoke about last season podcast it's two extremes really guys said was that when things were really. Gets. The credit for kind of going back through the ranks because he was there at the end of The journey in terms of Premier League return outscoring goals shekel you probably doesn't get the credit. He deserves because he was in a great team he will winning things and if you'll not Sergio Guerrero potentially overlooked in strong involvement in terms of this of middle period, that's what made. This is exactly the middle period of the took it is. But in terms of did this team deal, it could have done even though I think the ball was massively high intensity. First full season of ship is in charge you pick in the best in Levin in terms of available to David James. Eventually Been Sold Danny Mills Richard Dodd, SUV undestand. Steve Jordan. Trevor Sinclair Jerry Baden Cloudy Rain Kiki Musampa the raw for South and Andrew call is up a great team. Is. Losing Nine Games out ten coming fifteenth in the League Ny you look in times of the of teams that were in and around them at the time they come just below middle spur again show I don't see Charleston. How'd that period whereby they were challenging a bit higher off the table but know tens of wage income above the ball I'm not saying it's like massive underachievement they should have been qualified for Europe but I think he was called a period whereby the treading water canterbury but not because it was especially in those two seasons was ariffin teams I think in terms if. See teams when they came up, the hat attacking flair may have been slowly worse overall soon. I think it's consistency of quality the C team play with that kind of initial period roughly the same maybe Saudi back you could sight but I think that was kind of a dead no expectations or I would. But City if you about to stall primarily been do law got relegated in slowly fossils acres dot says when really bad because got relegated again. Then, caught about the great build up. So an element of we're back in the league, we kind of where we belong as it were and is the overlooked. Period in terms of returned to league. Big Money, but it also looks at the fact that God yet expectation. But yeah how could there been any good united didn't have the money even the millions of the first period of big money. But there was all meister tolerance of being average because they've been outreach before even the new kind of expectations we're not team. I should've been slightly higher looking back now I mean at the time he caught a thing they were rubbish until they had money. They were, but it could have been slightly improved I think and I suppose it was adamant pay. Sat from Stacey ended up having a gangland manager reemerging the Olympics there's those expectation of city on he so we're not really going to. Worry too much about that Book David, reason element of yet having the greatest amount resources in the world, but not managing them to the full potential but they had moved in to the new state after come with games at in terms of season revenue, they did have in terms of income. This placed in the League and audio doesn't necessarily translate to income coming in and they were probably spending some money towards the stage of etc but I think that was described to slightly off in us. I think he's interesting We've arguably the same point from very different angles in the sense A. Little looking for them to reach result in more and might be more perception of them is to look at them from a team that's come from slowly less until the over the cake of the journey that made in terms of like that so much. The Dogs Book Nice still had the Sun Starts Reuss is take the point the we've both troy tonight but I think we did not. A previous season regardless to his one thing that we cannot overlook. There was one thing that we cannot miss the one statement Dole instance with which would be one of those stereotypical podcasts of primarily triple wasn't this great when this happened last game of the previous season two, thousand, forty, thousand, five stupendous needing to win the game to get your painful throws divy giants from. There's almost ingenious plan and it would have would have been for that. pesky Kit missing the penalty the press you kid being rugby follow party who's ever referred to as a kid. Simone one INSENSATE settlers. It's surgically I almost feel representative mention it. Both has today mentioned Hammy Tomes has has I ne- manager done something that of the ordinary in an actually law of heard of instances and I've seen instances myself with manages my own club, the plight goalkeepers in midfield jury friendly's but a game of sort of level of this consequence it's a choice i. think the fact that when he came in, he had a really good record or you suggest in the It could do no wrong or at least the failing of Tom and he's UNMINED wall. He would do might come off I. Think he got himself into position whereby if it doesn't end up in an absolute disaster in terms of the midfield economy losing possession on the half-way line and Middlesbrough gun-free school as long as terrible doesn't happen the fact that it had a good run before went, you could say nearly paid off. Credit. In Bank to go up, that's just outside the box maverick faking that we need Robinson you've caught center what on the bench what why? The hell out you bring if pisses decision lead to object garbage can see to in two minutes because of divy con- control the limit failed. Danish the worst decision, anyone's ever mind and we'll tell him on it would be held up on a pedestal for one reason if divy James Shall, we say leads to a penalty. He's actually converted and that's led to an opinion which is revealed in a very different way. This is in the middle the two very much in terms of what we're talking about times of paces. So of fight, the following season is needed this. So therefore what you're less with these, it's almost comedy, but the end of the day is more of a cliches is nothing I think the fact that even with the missed penalty, any opportunity to qualify for your mistake on life, which is at that stage was their highest yeah. No. The research respect to fight the devil. So that kind of has called it a feeling of if only we'd had this for the season definitely go potential with this team. This is where we should be aiming for it. Goes out of wacky story. Vote does potential shouted a factor wasn't about team and he did you know who's the one penalty miss away from qualify for Europe and nobody even higher in the expectation would have been the this could have been followed on during the course of the season you intend to replace. Kevin Keegan he only life looked intensive muncie history did Piping Ralph near bring buckle up in the first place and so at the time pays comes in almost seems like a seamless Transition Times A. Good. Idea at this point in, Tomah. Would say in this season we disposition specifically I don't think anyone could have thought it would what this world button. Conduct Muncie pat himself on the back thinking of course, gotTa work. But we had the foresight and a great player. Great. I should agree. Budget and we were able to jump on that by confessed. Unfortunately, the found biogas didn't end up taking them to the places that they wanted to be taken unfortunately. But for a while they was looking like it was going to be a at dynasty cutter Satan Open. For while the England. National sets of agreed as well. So at. This point Thomas Chief is it signs. It was very much Shane, and this is more to do with the Danish media is quick to leap upon any manager especially, this particular period of time way that was very much as such phyl who's the next five as it's going to be saying, it's GonNa be some on the plate for fog as well. It will be if someone that was like might be applied for another manager that was very influential manager in English football and fit every single much of that criteria in terms of he was a good Playa. He had the connection with funds on the results much that Tom and they didn't in fact, he was an internal appointment in the Senate Saving Coche. And as well, always house. Internal promotion can be used to demonstrate that you have a plan in place in terms of not just developing that playing site, but also the coaching site as well Prior to Managing Muncie managing England Great Britain all not making a kind of bullshit and such freeman exactly what you would expect. But in terms of several out a good stop and there weren't quite the array of toys to play with, they could have done i. think it was a case of those limitations on a managerial level. It's not what briefs expose. You know it might somebody was terrible. It was a clown owens and sometimes it's difficult to evaluate somebody falls in that middle here in terms of if brilliant. Any wait to forty chievements. Somebody's useless. It's pretty easy to mock enough. They got his demonstrating violence. When somebody you you have no particular vested interested failing and you want them succeed and they've done some good stuff and. Bad stuff it is. Difficult. Convicts which to play enjoyed it a he'll stop. But what we live on this podcast is talking to the funds also terrible segues that genuine comedy at breakneck speed, and we'd I genuinely had such a huge response from Manchester funds that we've got separated into separate segment. So I'm GonNa Festival to me now in a very different location probably just pissed, but we'll see what they had to so. It's me you've already heard exactly what we had to say about strip out Manchester City book. Intimated, just a moment ago I. Significantly. Inebriated. No, that's not the point. The point being we had such a big response to what we that for Strip pissed and kept coming in as we were doing it. So I've got a point to a couple of paper and a couple of things that we saw wrong and fundamentally the reasons we do this podcast is to look with the club that we all not necessarily part of and find the emphasis. So this is unbelievable. Honestly fussed off, we have to give a Mossy shoutout to David Mooney who has written books on bunch of city does BBC Five Live as a podcast with the athletic and the blue. Moon podcast a blue moon podcast and he's at David Mooney win. The we're not the ones that would dad this is literally and also as well to this. is on coming at this from a very of big nineties Mer, and with the mind I have a very of vivid image in my head of much city, and that's not the case the idea the start of the nineties. He's a big reason as to woj Manchester City. We're in the place by world in the mid nineties as I remember them and I'm going to read the vitamin you mentioned the relegation in nineteen on six but. LemMe Self Comission mistakes might sitter Situa. No means a great team in the early nineteenth, but there were consist of having promotion one, thousand, nine, hundred finish fifth in Nineteen ninety-one above Manchester United v again in nine hundred, ninety two in terms of like being one step away being that close as it were because we've set this in different situations of the podcast, the legacy, the Manchester not didn't of having was not set in stone bilateral. And so this. And again back to reading vitamin culminated in twelve pay two swells not backing to read it began a spoil of appointments and sackings a swells as ice did Francis Lee Become Chairman Alan. Ball's appointment was a disaster tichy roaring free with fifty five senior pros in the books. All primarily wages about to go into the third to that's coined off where Roy at least in more memory pick it up. So the reason for that is very obvious when you go back now and get an fast forwarding that forward in terms of what was going on at city at the time, the money becomes an issue again for sure pierce because at that time, there was no. They spent nothing in two, thousand, four, two, thousand, five year before Pierce's appointed and eight million into forty thousand sixty spoilt the show more phillips transfer, and then that final season, they spent four million despite another four million going in class house the entire town was the netspend was minus twelve million you can wind up with a very specific squad did not particular point in time the was a complete lack of interest in city funds because the conclusion was, this is as good as it gets. So they burned through the usual suspects getting on that new manager bonds every two to three seasons, and you know that's very much in keeping with Piss was there and Bart's boy even thought PAC's plummeted bic. Andrew Cole put in a transfer request Lifa Portsmouth before the season started. None of this mitigates type again, reading for him, but he was the cheapest and safest option, and that is a very big indicator of a club as it was tournament. Also, in regard to we mentioned join the segment the day, the weekend and other teams were finishing with much assistance on also spoke to probably going to get this wrong in terms of pronunciation Kartik Krishna on he's on twitter at K. F. L. I. and. Goes into similar things in terms of die. How'd real problem with we can join the payers tenure some awful performances ans again mitigated financial circumstances. The walls three one win against Fulham in the two, thousand, six, two, thousand, seven, hundred, and that was an important victory at the time but he says he has the variety feeding the point was maybe they'd be better off in the championship and seeing negative football with tinge use of violence typified by Ben. Thatcher. Who We also did a podcast about. Last. Year coalition to thoughts and it's a very different soit to the Soit, the pace inherited the manager previously they have which we will again be covering on a future podcast. But in Tom's of positive the audio the you get Martin Petrol on the lawn off the heels of having one of the worst teams to watch in memory and angel mark. Phillips comes back. So in some ways, two, thousand, six, thousand, seven was a necessarily bottom to hit to build buck off even though not necessarily getting. Ready to just being at that level and then balancing back in obviously those stories of the basketball that we didn't touch upon which when you're looking at is a neutral is hilarious informed theory book. You don't necessarily walnut from your money, but like I say we had so many people get back to us. So many things and these just a sample of the things we want to mention some of the real absolute in terms of feedback that we've had the pinnacles a thank you everyone who spoke. To us and we're going to kick this off would carry on with the rest of shoot. This is torn in the Premier League after all that being said, we still one more period and this is coined of bittersweet in the sense that this is the only to talk about this particular team. But if you look at all criteria we says with which is that we talk about every club in every era in the premier league there aren't many managers because Oh by in Tom's of nothing forest but. Should pass in Nottingham Forest. There is a very big a very strong connection there and is to it son decoy unfortunate. The he falls on ice specific period of time but I will say this is the Nottingham Forest history is so convoluted that's a slow step too far but I forget the the when they are done after this come up again. Stop on this show dynasties knows absolutely all sorts Iguana site a team. Would six games all season one of wishes the opening day by GonNa Sixteen Game Run without a win and they come bomb. You think yet is an absolute car crash off season. But then when you look at it, the other way they finished on I four points, which is more than boy expecting those numbers by finish seven points of safety really with the goal difference which considering coming ball is a million miles away. I'd also the fact that still roundabout eight games to go. They were outside of the bomb free. It was just a fortunately in the last ten games. They didn't even ask that as we like to give you the inside in football if you don't win games. You know going to do very well in terms of there's all sorts of reasons go into in terms of thirty, one free games I usually teams who stay up it is based on having solid informed. So you always in the middle of catch-up situation also season where things saunders is blind still. At the end of the season where in terms of thinking though comeback of wide elites villa ninety five, and that's it. But also to season wet when you hear Vanoy don't comes in this season, you automatically think because the overseas and you have. You must have come in weight as schilling go on strike immediately. Becomes in the end of the season for Celtic last four off million. I mean I think he's scored one in not run. Also they spend one billion pounds on the set of forward Ian Thomas more it comes from trauma goes down animals. I've never heard of those plays and also speaking of send me regular skits. We have on pretty preceding carnations of the podcast going into the chairman with great names history. Oh. Yes. I remember this the chairman of forest season was a gentleman called irving cold icicle right lane. Well, yes the. I'm, GONNA pay with my strategy side to the sun degrees which should pass on these corn. But in terms of the forest sparking to, as I said before we saw this. Day He's reputation and legacy is to assault Detroit to the point largely, which is hilarious. So I did the res I- photo that is constantly posted in regard to strip has dotting forest Dhabi county relations I. If you look at the photo, it looks a pass as. Kissing the Dhabi county budge and vice anytime soon, things are in Fudd. Photo is Sharon and you wouldn't think anything more of it without any prior knowledge publicity. What it is is again, he's wearing a dog can't show denise is nothing afforest show and he's kissing the nothing of always like literally pulling out from under Nathan Kissing the voice budge he is very much. I. Legend in the sense the we don't necessarily get in the modern Di di purely nostalgia full not just nothing forest is for what we talk. About the starts talking about the style is podcast podcasting air of a specific ply way Diouala of a level above and anyone that was pretty much involved in your not six for me takes on both level and for this particular Tain Club, etc. But in regard to his managerial period, which very small section that we're looking at it, just go onto, manage them in the championship and we could talk about this for very long periods home he begun. For another hour we literally about to wrap this up at this particular point in time. But if you look Ischia Pacers record in the championship as encapsulated in the, he stops really really well on the old tiles off and the reason element to suggest that he is one of the epitome of comes in 'cause everyone g doping going again, and then can't really do anymore after that. He's a great joy to come in for six months but. Realistically speaking you know not necessarily planning for the long time and there are reasons for that because obviously when someone comes after six months and does really well, you want them to jail for a long period of time but aid English fobel dare of tactics, which we've not very spoken advice todd days because there aren't ready thought much to talk about it and it's just a case evoke derosa on people understand the no will and knowing football. On the stunning football and being able to comprehensively tell that to other people and get them to do that in a very specific way that you want. They're all very different things and I listened to Stuart, Pearce talk and he would might me run to break we'll but it wouldn't might me about football and so within that I always think that like he's so steam in one ago at both decided God I talk necessary think of him as Gary Casper off of the primarily game. 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