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Flores homers to help Giants to 4-2 win over Astros
"Logan Webb allowed two runs over 7 and two thirds innings as the Giants beat the Astros four to two. Webb needed 46 pitches to get through the game's first two innings, but then he faced the minimum over the next 5. Giants manager gave Kepler. And he continued to attack the strikes on with his full mix and got ground balls. The game for us was efficient and even with some of the early mishaps I thought. Kind of locked him in a little bit, so really nice having for him. Joey Bart finished two for three with an RBI double for the Giants while Austin slater added a pair of hits. Alex Bregman homered for the Astros. Adam spole in Houston.
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"joey bart" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"I definitely remember. I covered it. I noticed that one of the potential candidates to hit 30 home runs is not Joey Bart. Grant. At least not the one that you mentioned. Talk to us about Joey Bart. What do we make of Joey Bart at this point? Because he was a child prospect, he debuted, he disappointed, it didn't matter for a minute because Buster Posey was not yet retired and had an incredible season. Then Buster Posey famously did retire and Joey Bart's been the guy, and he's someone along at like a 90 WRC plus. So what does the future hold for Joey Bart? And what is the organization sort of view of him at this point? When he was coming up as a prospect, you would have these, well, he's going to be an all star level catcher. He's going to, these are his strengths. If you have to compare them to another catcher, well, Mike zino's right there, Mike sanina was drafted third overall, Joey Bart was drafted second and at the time that was not very exciting if you wanted to get excited for Joey Bart. You're kind of like, well, Mike sanino, he had a couple good years, but the contacts not always there. Oh gosh, that can't really be his ceiling, can it? And I think it is. I think that comp existed for a reason. I think it's always been too obvious to really, it's almost been like too good to be true, too obvious. Like that is such a perfect comparison and comparisons don't usually work out like that. But I think that's the ceiling. I think Bart's gonna hit 200 with two 80 on base percentage, and maybe 20 home runs and play pretty darn good defense. And that's gonna be his ceiling, and that's fine. That's good. Zunino has had, you know, pretty decent career with some good seasons. He's made an all star team. That might happen for Joey Bart, but I think the average Mike zunino season 200 average with a slugging percentage just over 400. I think that's what you're gonna get from Bart and that's fine. It's just expectations were a little bit different at one point. You don't have to convince me that Mike's then you know is good. That's fair. You mentioned Brandon Belt a minute ago. He's no longer here. We're down to one big league Brandon at this point. And Jesse Thorne and friend of the show, in our Facebook group recently, he made the point that it was handy to have Brandon Belt around because it allowed you to filter out a certain sort of fan. If you were talking to them and they maybe had to lessen lightened opinions of the value of branded belt, then that kind of calibrated your discussion. Kind of told you what sort of fan that was right earlier wrongly. So can you sort of sum up the branded belt experience now that it's over in San Francisco, just his legacy, what it was like to cover him and maybe appreciate him more than some segments of the fanbase did. Yeah, that was a weird time. It's just Brandon Belt making people mad. We will never not be funny to me. He should not be so divisive. He's your gregarious. He's funny guy. He's produced well. He has a place in history with the team. 18th inning a home run, he has two World Series rings. He should not be controversial, but he was, and it was, it had a lot to do with expectations again, he was supposed to be this top top prospect. Maybe as good as Will Clark, perhaps, and he comes up and he hits 9 home runs his first year. He hits 7 home runs a second year, and then he never got over 20 home runs a year after year. It was 17 home runs 12, 18, and he would always get hurt, and it was always getting hit by baseballs or knees, or just getting hit by hard objects in the head and stuff like that. And he had this body language that to the untrained eye looked like he was slumping his shoulders that he just didn't want to be there or I don't know, and then he had a fatal flaw where he would take a lot of cold strike threes and you go, come on, you got to protect that's like the classic, you know, you're an old school baseball fan. You gotta protect. Brandon, come on. It doesn't matter if the umpire is wrong. You gotta protect this is all very amusing to me because giants fans en masse, they love JT snow. Just love JT snow. To this day, JT snow this, JT snow that. He was, you know, a good giant. He had all of the same issues that belt did as far as he didn't hit a lot of home runs. His on base percentage wasn't as good as belts, but for whatever reason, if it's the body language, it's I don't know, but belt became divisive, weird as heck. Where does heck? Yeah. And the other Brandon, the one who's still there, Brandon Crawford, he turned 36 last month, and he had sort of a strange off season, and that for a week or so there. He thought he was moving to third base, which was obviously an adjustment for him, although he seemed to take it in stride, or at least publicly, he said, you know, he was looking forward to the new challenge and the right things that you sort of say, although having spent his whole accomplished career there at short, probably there was part of him that resented it. But I guess when you bring in Carlos Correa and a player like that, then you kind of understand at this point in your career that it might be time to move aside, but it turns out he's not moving aside. So is he still good at that position? He's only a couple of years removed from his last gold glove, the metrics were sort of divided on him last year. And obviously the bat was maybe the bigger problem in that that was way down from the previous season, which was just a huge year for him. So how much does printed Crawford have left? He played his best defense toward the end of the season. There was a road trip in September, where he was amazing. It was, it had a throw that he made from deep in the hole that was his hardest ever tracked by stat cast. He was just all over the field going to his left, going to his right. And I will agree that the eyeballs in the stats, they told a different picture earlier in the year. Okay, you know, he's lost a step. He's solid. His hands are still, you know, the great, but he doesn't have the same range. He's not wowing you as much as he did. And for whatever reason, toward the end of the season, you saw that again, whether it's a, I don't know what the explanation would be. I'm not a very good baseball analyst, but something changed. And he looked like the Brandon Crawford of old. I don't know if that's going to translate to a better defensive numbers in his age 36 season. I'm not sure what to make of it, but I will say that for a couple of weeks, he looked like the Brandon Crawford of old. I want to talk a bit about the rotation now and I think the way that we want to enter this is to talk about some of the additions that the Giants made and they strike me as perhaps highlighting different strengths of the organization. So let's talk about Sean and I and Ross tripling. What are your expectations of mania? Because I feel like the Giants occupy this interesting spot where we have seen them be able to help guys in a meaningful way, but they haven't been doing that sort of adjustment stuff as well as long as some other teams that we tend to associate with having good player dove that's able to fix guys. So how do you view the mania signing? Is this like a fun test case for them? Do you think that he is going to stick with them the whole year talk to me about Shawn maniac?
Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"joey bart" Discussed on Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"Talked about what you would give your significant other and you said him like, look, this is the big splurge that you're going to do. And you mentioned a $100 and my first thought when I saw that was like no, that's not a relationship I've been in. A $100. Yeah. Okay. What's up with that? Taylor's laughing through her laughing. Everyone's laughing at me. Here's what we do. My wife and I splurge on each other for Valentine's Day for birthdays and Latino things throughout the year. For Christmas, we do the best we can to keep it pretty tidy in that respect and spend all of generally speaking the bonus money we get from ESPN on all of our friends and family. So what we usually do is keep a pretty tight budget when it comes to giving gifts to each other for Christmas. But obviously, I can't get her nothing. I want to get her something pretty nice of high quality, a gift that keeps on giving for lack of a better term. And in this case, foster, I'm giving my wife a Brandon nimmo, and in this case, my wife is actually the Toronto Blue Jays. Here's where I'm coming from. So over the last 5 years, since the start of the 2018 season, Brandon nimmo owns A380 eight on base percentage. That's a 5 year sample size, only trout. Soto Freeman Harper and judge Tony better on base during that time. And I'm confident that he can stay at center field based upon his constantly improving metrics. And in the case of the Toronto Blue Jays, the fit is just obvious. Last year they posted the lowest platoon advantage rate, 31% of any team in the last 40 years. They've got no left handed punch in that lineup. They've already moved on from chaos for Hernandez. I would be comfortable giving my wife, excuse me. The Toronto Blue Jays, 5 years, and something like a 110 to a $120 million for Brandon Nemo. What say you? Yep, I think that's a great call. And I think you matched the team. I think that team has more need for a left handed hitting center Fielder than any other team. You know, it'd be interesting to see if that's where the Met stick their elbows out and say, we're the richest team in baseball. This guy came up in our organization and we want to keep him gift to his significant other would be Xander bogarts. I'm fascinated by his free agency because as you know, the Red Sox in their contract talks with him in the spring offered him a one year extension, which would have given him four years and $90 million. In talking with other teams and talking with agents, there's an expectation that zander Bogart is going to do really well and if he winds up getting a deal in the 150 to $180 million range, if I'm in the Red Sox leadership, I'm asking the question, wait a second. How did we value this player 90 million, which would be about half of what he might get in free agency, it would be a tremendous mistake, it would bear that out. I think by the Red Sox and how they handled those talks. What do you think? Buster, there is no front office right now that makes me scratch my head more than Boston Red Sox. They mangled the Vander Bogart's situation. They've mangled the Rafael Devers situation. They had previously mangled the John Lester situation. This is Mookie betts previously way bog. And obviously different time and different place. But if we're just going to go through the list here, right? Not to mention the fact that they viewed Trevor story as a 9 figure player that you Tommy famished them and were trading for in a contract year. And they for some reason traded for Eric Hosmer. There is absolutely no connectivity between anything that they have done over the last year and a half or so. And I understand that right now that fan base is incensed. They have the right to be. It seems like their ownership cares a lot more about their soccer team overseas than it does the Red Sox. They're acting like they're a mid market theme. Their families keep their fans want to see them win. They're not doing anything right now. They give me good vibes. We get two minutes. Let's go two more gifts. You say, if you're giving a gift to your aunt Helen, which you want to respectful of the gift, a good gift, but you don't want to splurge, what would that be? Yeah, she's really hard to impress. I mean, she comes from money. There's a pretty significant sized trust here buster, the origins of which are somewhat unclear. So you have to do a lot of research to make sure that you get this right. I am giving my aunt Helen. Zac eflin. And in this case, my aunt Helen is the Baltimore Orioles. Does that guy's going to pitch next season at 29? Over the last three years, he's made 41 starts and in those. 225 strikeouts against 45 walks. That's a 5 to one ratio. And over that time buster has fit, his fielding independent pitching is about two thirds of a run better than his ERA. That's because the Phillies D stinks. Meanwhile, the Baltimore Orioles defense is a lot better. I would be comfortable giving Zac when something like three years and $45 million expecting him to be about a number three starter for me. And if not, I know he can be a lights out back end of the bullpen guy which he showed at the back end of this season for the Phillies. Yeah, he could be his generation's Charlie Morton. I think he could absolutely step up. I think your numbers are right in line. I think it's a great pick for me. It would be catcher Mike zunino knowing how he has worked with the Tampa Bay pitching staff. I really like him as a player. You don't have to spend a ton of money. And then last is the gift that you would give at your office Christmas party. What would that be? Buster. Keep in mind, this relationship is not great. The person that you drew, they have very questionable political views. You've overheard them question things that you've worn to work on a couple of occasions. So you're not thrilled about this drawing. But you have to get the thing right because you're doing this as a group and you don't want to be made fun of. I am buying this annoying colleague of mine. Omar narvaez and in this case, this annoying colleague of mine is the San Francisco Giants. Narvaez, I think, is a really underrated free agent right now. He's the number four pitch framer in baseball across the last three seasons. During that time, we've seen Brandon Woodruff and Corbin burns thrive with him behind the dish. I think that has to count for something. He didn't hit at all last year, but he has been on balance about a league average hitter. I view it as a nice platoon option with Joey Bart. And look, obviously, San Francisco giant fans won't be thrilled if they sell you all more narvaez instead of Aaron judge, but I actually view this guy as a really valuable potential year or two player for somebody and who better than the San Francisco Giants. The Giants for my annoying colleague. Nice. I got Zach britton. Who could feed on a number of different teams? He's coming back from Tommy John surgery. He's a great pro. He's got great natural movement on that sinker. And he is a reconstructed elbow. So that would be a guy that I think at a low price would wind up giving you a great value. All right, how about? Thanks for doing this. Good to talk with you. And we'll talk to you sometime next week. Later, friend. Bleacher tweets already buster bleacher tweets, four Thursday and bleacher tweets are brought to you by Dr Pepper at a college football season without the delicious taste of an ice cold Dr Pepper the one fans deserve.
ESPN FC
"joey bart" Discussed on ESPN FC
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VSiN Best Bets
"joey bart" Discussed on VSiN Best Bets
"The Giants are going to be able to get to them a little bit more in this bite. You do have 8 San Francisco Giants line up there. So it rakes in the top ten in terms of runs per game. They do a very good job of platooning even though they don't know the supreme bats out there as warmer Flores Jack Peterson, both of these guys will be able to provide between 16 and 17 or more on speed, both of these guys in between about 8 to 50 to 60, but you do have good balance up and down the line of JD Davis. They wound up picking up at the deadline. He, Evan Longoria, both of these guys able to provide right around two 45 Lewis Garcia, Austin slater. Strata in between about a two 62 two 70, so they've done a good job of making sure they don't have too many anti air quotes here at dead bats out there and Joey Bart, who won it starting out the year. Not so great. He has really been able to pick it up since he also breaks his way right around at two 85 for the Arizona Diamondbacks. They do rank in the bottom 5 in terms of batting our job what I will say about the earth and I am back is that the average a little bit less than all broad per game at home. Meanwhile, more like 1.3 runs per game when they are on the road with Christian walker, being able to be the headliner for this. He has to be able to provide 27 home runs as far as the season, but he said to be cursed and Kelly, Sergio Alcantara, you're able to go down the line Jordan luplow with guys and you get two 26 or lower for the CB dof. Emmanuel Rivera, who's been a really, really good ever since the air is a Diamondback spot of picking them up. It ain't games going into yesterday. You wind up having four bombs and one sitting at three 57. So that has been nice. You've got Jake McCarthy who's been able to ride around two 60, but ketone Marte of the Marte birte suffered a hamstring injury in the team series against the car ride rocky. So that's a little bit of an issue there as well, neither of these four pounds are too good for these San Francisco Giants. He saw off John braby, Charlotte Garcia, camilo de vol, giving you a sub three three ERA, but when you get entered out of the Rogers company, not so great in for the years and Diamondbacks, the injury to Kyle, Nelson, as one of hurting them quite a bit as really, other than Joe Manchin and Kennedy, you don't have anyone that you're able to trust their Mark lansen, Noah Ramirez, maybe I'm posting up north of four eerie, Chris davinci has come back. He is not looked so good either, so I'd rather be on the side of the San Francisco Giants as a result, set them as a minus one 29 favorite. They want to make my Donald 7.7 very picture friendly ballpark out there in San Francisco. I think the Merrill Kelly is going to be able to deliver a good start and I do think that the ball is in play, gotta be gone the way of our good friend junior is a little bit more so. Looking at the under to go along with the giant science 65 9 66 on the main board the Tampa Bay Rays at the road face off against in New York Yankees. Nests or Cortez is going to be going for the Yankees and Jeffrey springs is on the bump or Danbury.
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"joey bart" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"That was it. But he did not allow a batted ball with a hit probability or expected batting average higher than two 50, and if you combined all of the expected batting averages of the batted policy allowed, it only adds up to four 80. So he was like sub 500, all his bad balls combined through 7 innings. So he had a real chance, I think, of being the first or at least no one had done this when Sam was reading that article of having a legitimate statcast no hitter there, which would have been a lot harder to do than in actual no hitter. So that would have been pretty cool. I'm sorry that the rains came and spoiled that attempt. So can I be like a bummer? Yeah. So we need a way to adjust the expected batting average stuff though for direction, right? Because this is always, this is always the failure of individual batted ball event, X batting average. What a mouthful that was. No wonder no one wants to talk about stats on a broadcast. You sure have to say a lot of words because the ex batting average doesn't account for directionality. And so horizontal spray direction. Yeah, it takes into account the lift. The launch angle in the vertical direction, but not in the horizontal direction. So but now I want someone to find the closest with that sort of taken into account because you can look at stuff and be like, oh my God, like it's so low. And it's like a number. It's not that it's meaningless. It's just that if you want to confer a specialist status, you got to do a little work I would imagine. Yeah, right. So he had thrown 87 pitches. He could have kept going, would have been fun. But just generally like putting that aside, the resurgence of hunter green, it is interesting. It is counterintuitive perhaps that seemingly the way to unlock hunter green's abilities was to have him throw fewer fastballs. The hunter green who is famous for just throwing a 104 whatever his fastball has been pretty hittable, not a lot of deception seemingly. And so he has tiled back the fastball, not necessarily in terms of speed, but in terms of usage. And has been thrown secondary stuff more. So even for hunter green, who has maybe the fastest fastball, certainly one of the fastest, even he can benefit from throwing more breaking balls, which is something you've seen leaguewide. It's like he's a microcosm of the majors, basically, because the average fastball velocity keeps going up and up, but the fastball usage rate keeps going down and down because breaking balls are really effective. So even hunter green had to mix things up a bit. And particularly, you know, he is, I think, a great reminder that in addition to there being breaking balls, which are just effective on their own. It is useful to have a complicated understanding of fastball utility, right? It's easy to see villa like we see out of hunter green and be like, oh my God, it has to be amazing. But maybe it's about shape or approach angle or you know, there's all kinds of other, you know, like three years ago we were like, there's nothing new to say analytically. We were such dummies. There's always something new. There's always something new under the sun, isn't that nice? Yeah, and maybe you're looking for smaller and smaller edges. I don't know. But there is always some new frontier. And also, Joey Bart, the Giants top prospect at one time and replacement for the retired Buster Posey. He was demoted. He has not filled Buster Posey shoes, although those would be difficult to fill. But that just made me think a little bit about just the range of rookie performance because a lot of highly touted rookies who have made the majors this season have struggled, notably, raid and in varying amounts of playing time. So adley Richmond, for varying degrees of severity, right? Adley Richmond's hitting one 43 two 26 one 96, 62 plate appearances. I don't think anyone's worried about adley regiment. But it is interesting how some players, no matter how talented and polished, they undergo an adjustment period. And others do not. So Richmond is struggling. We've talked about Jared kelme and all the issues that he went through. And there are other guys that, you know, CJ Abrams is another one who has not hidden his major league playing time this year. I guess Spencer torkelson has been somewhat disappointing, you know, a lot of those like, oh wow, this guy's arrived and then it's like, and other guys. It was my greatest sound effect. But other guys, maybe there's an adjustment period where they start out slumping, but then they get it together, like Julia Rodriguez. Maybe had umpire calls going against him, but he has turned things around and now he's maybe the scariest hitter in that Mariners lineup. When you say that, that doesn't sound like much. Yeah, no. But he has been legitimately he's been legitimately very, very good of late. And I think when I left to go deal with some family stuff, I think he was leading the majors in stolen bases. Is he still? Oh, wow, I didn't even look, but he has 17 of them. Yeah, sure as well. Among qualified here is I can't imagine that there's we need a different word than qualified because it makes it sound like I'm saying something mean about those guys. Sure, I'm not, yeah. He just sure leads the majors and so on bases like that, Julio. So he slipped initially, but then got it together and maybe you could lump Bobby witt into that group where he started really slow in his pick things up somewhat. But then there are other guys like Nolan Gorman was raking in triple-A and then got up to the majors and continued to rake. Or like Jeremy Pena, who was one of the best players in baseball, this season, not just one of the best rookies, but one of the most valuable places..
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"joey bart" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"They were pretty, they were pretty busy in the bay. All right, strength, sweetness. I mean, their strength is that they're the Giants. Like I don't know exactly how to say, they have, you know, if you look at Ross or resource, they have four platoon bats in the lineup. I mean, the natural assumption is that they can whatever they did last year on that. They can do again. I don't think that's wrong, but I also, I don't know, last year did come out of nowhere, right? Yeah. So I guess I have a lot of questions less doubt more than just questions about whether that stuff holds, right? Evan Longoria had one of his best seasons of his career at age 35. Brandon Crawford had one of the best seasons of his career at age 34. Brandon Belt had a great season at 33. And when you talk about the age in the Dodgers lineup, Joey Bart is younger than anyone in the Dodgers lineup, but everyone else is gonna, you know, I guess tyro Strata is younger, but everyone else is 28 plus. Right. I don't know how you their strengths and weaknesses to me are so intertwined in that it's either going to be a strength or a weakness. And I don't know what it's going to be at this point. Has not learned its lesson. No. Well, maybe you shouldn't have, right? Maybe the wrong lesson to learn is, hey, the Giants are going to break projection systems more than any other team has ever broken them. And each year, right, right? I mean, when you have a team that is that much of an outlier. And I know that there were hints of it in earlier seasons, whether it was some of anxiety's smart pickups or the strengths of the world or in 2020, the offense in particular really made some strides and it was the short season, but still. And I know that there's a story that goes along with it and it's a somewhat convincing story in that you have the giantess coaching staff in the majors, right? No pun intended. You just have so many major league coaches. You have Brian bannister, whose work that I have followed and admired for many years. So it makes sense, but you don't know how quickly to admit them to the club of teams that you think, oh, they're great at player development. They can get more out of players. It's like, you talk about the raise or the Dodgers or maybe the Yankees, at least with certain facets of the game right with pitchers or with hitters. And now I guess you have to include the Giants in that conversation, but it's still really one full season that they have done it and they did it in such a dramatic and fun way. And I think by the end of the season, our doubts were assuaged about whether that version of the Giants was good. I mean, by the end of the season, I was not thinking, oh, this is a fluke. I was thinking, well, this team is good. I don't know how, but it's really good. And they're underlying performance was there too. It's not like one of these teams that just wildly over performs its run differential or something. This was a team that had good underlying numbers, too. And now it's just, can you do it again? And also, can you do it without at least some of the players who were there last year, most notably Buster Posey, but, you know, with that and with everyone getting a year older, you'd have to be somewhat skeptical. You don't want to be burned again by the team that fooled everyone, and yet you don't also want to just jump in with both feet and say, yeah, I guess the Giants are just going to be 20 to 30 games better than the projection system say every year. I think that's really well said. I mean, it's funny because we wrote Ginny sterile wrote an article before last season that said like likes likes the Giants because I think we had 11 hitters projected to be league average or better. You know, I think it was the pitching that maybe tripped the last year, but regardless, I mean all those reasons you said it's not, I don't mean to take anything away from them last season because they were the best team in baseball last season. They were like they earned everything they did. It wasn't like a fluke performance, you know what I mean? But the question is whether everyone can kind of do that again or whether everyone needs to, I suppose. Look, you can tell me Darren ruff is a great hitter. At this point, like I buy that, I watched him a lot last year. He's just a very good hitter. You know, the question to me is whether like Evan Longoria, again at age 36, can do this again. And that's something I don't know. You know, I buy Brandon bell. There are guys that I buy into and then there are others around like, I'm not necessarily doubting. That's the question to be answered, and it might be that the answer is yes, but they had so much go right kind of all at once. And it's not that any individual, one of those was fluky or unlikely or anything like that. It was the collective of it happening altogether, I guess, was part of what stood out to me. But yeah, it's very hard to figure out for me. Well, and there has been meaningful attrition on this roster beyond whatever regression we might anticipate for them. I don't want to give Joey bar to hard time, but the drop off from last year's Buster Posey to Joey Bart is meaningful. And I think that this organization has shown that they do not always have a tremendous amount of confidence in Joey Bart. So, you know, I think that there are reasons to look at this team even if you do buy in and say, like, yeah, they seem to have really demonstrated some acumen in terms of not only their player dev, but how they construct this roster and deploy it, and they seem to have goodbye in and all of that stuff. You can say yes to all of that and still think they probably won't do what they did last year, and I don't think that that's knocking them. I still think they're going to be a really good team, but I think you can look at it and go, eh, it's probably not last year. Right, yeah. And the non projection, the thing that a projection system is not going to get either is if you said, where there is a weak spot, I think this front office will find an effective solution. I would buy that wholeheartedly. I mean, this front office and coaching staff is very, very good. And I think you can have a lot of confidence in them. If Jack Peterson isn't hitting, like I don't think they're just going to keep doing..
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"joey bart" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"We did hit 12 more months and 77 games and there's some EVs to back up some of the things he does not in the sense that he has real power, but at least he has sneaky pop and the ability to impact a baseball when at times before his religious kind of a slap and dash got. And so the fact that he's doing that and to absolutely no cost to whatsoever of the incredible contact scale, I think, really speaks to something. We talked about the catchers at the top of the list, there's also a catcher toward the bottom of the list just at one 13 Joey part of the Giants. And he has, of course, been thrust into a pretty prominent role this year because of the retirement of Buster Posey and you noted in the blurbs that this could be a big make or break year for him. So what are some of the concerns? And what is still the upside? Did anybody take Johnny parida in your minor league free agent draft? I don't think so, but maybe we should have. Oh wait, maybe I did. Did you? I took a giants catcher. Ah, okay. All right. I don't remember now. I think I took it because I was like, they're not keen on Bart. I think that's what I did, 'cause I historically, I'm really great at the minor league free agent dress. Anyway, yeah, like in addition to Joey Bart swinging and missing a ton. And some of this stuff was already present in the profile, right? But it just would start to be on the phone with baseball people. Made it sound like the Giants didn't really value Joey Bart very much. Based on some of the tones of trade discussions and stuff like that. So if this guy does the zanino thing and to this point he is tracked almost exactly like that where he was thrust into the big leagues prematurely because of other circumstances. Like this guy was just in the big leagues for a little while in 2020. So, you know, is there going to be some late career bouncer where he starts getting to more of this power? Maybe. And so maybe he doesn't end up having like a Nino trajectory things end up being very good. But there's real risk around the hit tool now. He's just in that Corey Lee Dillon dingler bucket where we're not confident that they're going to hit, but they do so much other stuff. But I do think that this catching situation in San Francisco with casale, who I also like and Bart, and then yeah, Johnny pareto, who's run, strikeout rates in the low teens, basically his whole life. He's been was traded from the cubs to the Red Sox at one point, signed as a minor league free agent with no Buster Posey in San Francisco. I will have my eye on Johnny pareto during theoretical big league spring training coming up here. Just because I think that this is an interesting mix that still has some volatility. Yeah. It's fourth round minor league free agent draft pick, Johnny parade it to all of you. They didn't 40 man Ricardo genoves, right? Like there's other stuff happening here. That indicates they don't have a third 40 man catcher right now. I do think parade has a chance to work his way into this mix. We still have half an off season ago. Don't remind me. I'm curious and if you can pull the curtain back a little bit and tell us which of the guys who either made this list or maybe were left off, generated the most internal disagreement between the three of you and then also maybe represented the broadest range of potential future value tears externally when you were talking to team sources. Who would we fight about? I'm higher on CJ Abrams and Kevin. That's true. I think that we're talking about plus plus run and real feel for contact plus still room on the body performed okay at double-A as a 20 year old, then got hurt. If you want to say that we're too high because of some of the risk related to the injury and the loss developmental time, I'd buy that. But I really think there's still so much more raw power coming for CJ Abrams and he's going to play somewhere up in the middle. Don't know if it's going to be shortstop. I don't think it is. He's definitely gotten better there, but the guys who tend to stay there aren't the ones who we have any doubt about. So he's one of them. Yeah. I'm the guy who hates queen priest or more than the other two, quin priester's fastball is sixto Sancho's shape, but 6 or 7 miles an hour or less. And so it's a real scary, scary pitch for me. He's trying to mitigate that with by developing a cutter. But his fastball shape just terrifies me as to his ability to even get to the big leagues at this point. I think I was more willing to take a long-term bet on Christian pace than the two of you guys and I'm probably also a little bit higher on just the guys I've seen a lot in person and tend to believe until like Kevin Alcantara, mostly Kevin akin Tara and the other the other two cubs kids, I think maybe are in that mix. That's probably about it. Priester was definitely a hot button issue for a little while, and there were times when there were various shortstops who ended up littered throughout the 50 future value to your close to 50th overall who at times we wanted to 55 and like really amp into that top 30 area. And Jeremy Pena was the only one of that group who ended up sticking Kevin thinks that Pena will get you a little bit more power than I tend to. But I think that's largely the crux of it. What's the story with Jason Dominguez, who I feel like even non prospect people know Jason Dominguez and his record breaking baseball card sales, but he's number 73 on the list. He's actually your third ranked Yankees prospect, which doesn't seem to quite match some of the hype that's out there. Is that just a product of the fact that he's 19 and a young 19 and you have a 2025 ETA on him and that's a long ways away? I mean, it plays a big role. I mean, this is another high variable guy, and he didn't live up to expectations when he finally played, and at the same time like living up to the expectations that he had were impossible. You mean he's not actually Mickey Mantle? If he played like Mickey Mantle people, oh no, I thought he'd be better than this. This would be all over his ass. And so yeah, the body has changed in a way that was not good, but it looked better during the second half of his season. And it's just like this variability and we talked about this on the episode I did two musical there, but like he's 73 now. If Jason Dominguez is number 11 next year, I'm not going to be shocked and if Jason Dominguez is none the list next year, I'm not going to be shocked. You know, that's the kind of variability we're talking about like all the tools in the upside are there, but at some point when you're talking about prospects, you have to stop talking about that because they have to do something. And he just didn't do much..
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"joey bart" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"That could be a wife out pitch. So not only is his is Fastenal view of rising I don't have a young age. But he has the wife out breaking ball. Where? Let's say his fastball. He's been right. You know, isn't what they want to be on an off day. The advocate was gonna have it. He has the pitch where you can go. Okay? My fastballs not doing today. I could get you out on what this pitch consistently. So that's obviously exciting, very, very young guy, and you know, it's someone that they zeroed in on before the draft and couldn't be more excited to have him in the system. I'm curious as to your perspective on on how the Giants are just treating the farm system at this juncture If I recall correctly and last year, obviously, we didn't have a farm system, at least in the structure that we well know. But in 2019 the first year for anxiety, it seemed as if the team was extremely conservative about call ups and Moving guys from, you know up a league or even down a league that they really wanted to keep guys in the same spot for an extended period of time. And then this year, you know, they sent a lot of guys too. Leagues that seemed lower than the talent level that those guys probably deserved at the beginning of the season. Are you seeing that Zehme level of conservatism? Are you still seeing a conservative nature or have the giant started to speed stuff up a little bit here and give guys some more promotions a little bit quicker than in years past. They start to speed it up for sure. I think what foreign message was pre season, especially with not having a modeling season last year was, you know, it is probably gonna be conservative. Early on. You're going to see a rama in double A and everything, But you know, I thank you. For them. It was It was very much about. Hey, prove it. Prove yourself kind of thing. Which this other wrong with that and you're starting to see. Come, Especially some pictures started to call it up. Whether it be high a double a Sam along off in Sacramento now, so they're starting to speed it up along. You know, I think again, the message very much was very clear to the players as far as You know, you might feel that you deserve a level up. Show us, you know, give give us a little bit of sample. Give us a month show us and you'll be up there. So that's that's what right now. I think it could be honest with you after it for a year away. It probably was the right message and started to prove out, right? You know, I think a guy like Ramos, He's been up and down in a very Pitcher Friendly lead a very pitcher friendly ballpark and now started prove himself again had a big night last night. So again, you know, there's nothing wrong with that message. Another Irma Side of caution after what a weird year Last year was going for yourself and those pictures are starting to do that right now, so they're very much going off of like far, Hunt said The plan was most likely going to be the preseason. You mentioned San long. He was the talk of spring training, at least for a couple of days. What kind of a role do you think you'll have it? Do you expect them to get called up this year? And what kind of a role could he fulfill for this Giants team if he does I think that we will see Sam Long and Sam. Just so this year he's someone that with his stuff that I think that he she can provide multiple rules. I think that he could be a starter or a lever. You know him. Users have started this year in the minors. He really impressed an enrichment. I mean, so the guy that I think it only 15 innings he had over 20 strikeouts. He only walked a handful of guys. Hey, rightfully again. He earned his promotion of the soccer man. Oh, he has a picture of Sacramento yet. But again, like you said he was the talk of the town in spring training. Not just for his great story, but going. This could be a big league arm. You know, 25 years old last year out of nowhere, you know another signing where you go. You know whether we need a Balkan arm later, a lefty out of the pen. Well, whenever we need someone that stretch it out out of the pen We're going to make spot starts. He seems like someone that's on the trajectory before we know it can not be in second now but to be in San Francisco. We'll talk about Joey Bart a lot for obvious reasons. I don't believe he is the top prospect, at least not according to Major League baseball. These one of the top prospects in baseball just shows how loaded the Giants farm system is. He's been absolutely ripping it in the 11 games. I understand that he has a bit of a groin injury now but again Really good in Triple A. What did they send Bart down? What were they looking To get from him. What? What did they need to Seymour of at the Triple A level and 11 games probably isn't enough to show all of that. But ultimately, you know is he doing are from your perspective. Is he doing those things? Yeah, I think again it was more a tightening and up of, you know a few things that you need to fix last year. A few things that you know, maybe he wasn't comfortable with. Last year we saw he had a few swing changes and spring training that I think really, you know, made him or loose of the plate. I think you had quietly. A very good spring. And like you said, you know, it was almost like The hype machine. When way more towards Luciano Way more towards Ramos, and he's quietly had a really good start in Sacramento before Hey, had to be show for a little bit. So again, you know, I think it was getting comfortable with pitch calling, getting comfortable with multiple different kind of pictures behind the plague, you know, laying off the pictures in the dirt. Storming up the strikeouts and increasing the walks. Things like that. You know, it wasn't anything big. I think it was just, you know if we can get him this daily experience working with the coaches and Sacramento both behind behind behind the plate and at the plate, it's only gonna make him better for the long term, You know, because they did feel that he was rushed. And now you think you could get a chance to go. The pressure's off. I know where I am right now. And then once I'm gonna be in San Francisco, I'm gonna be fully ready to be there to make Real impact. So it wasn't anything one specific big. We gotta fix this mistake. It was more. Let's just get him ready. Where he gonna have the kind of impact we know we can have. We have any reports on how well he's catching these days? I mean, there's there's certainly some concerns last year for how he caught a game and I don't see him being in everyday first basement. I don't know what his role is. I don't know if there will be a D. H in the National League by the time he gets called up, but If he is to be a catcher. He's going to have to improve behind the plate and calling games. You heard anything regarding that? I'm really not heard it. It's been positive, only positive. And, you know, I think that we do sometimes have to remember that with him. His game calling Daddy Day did you know has the mistakes with Lot of the woods with a Johnny Cueto. What's right, be easy for you. Right, Harry. There's a young guy for such a 50 outline of a picture. What Johnny Cueto for that for that, To be kind of your first taste of the bigwigs can't be easy. So again, That's where can you go back to getting that daily experiencing and get the most daily arrest with multiple different kind of pictures? The triple A low level, whether the starter reliever Lefty righty it only better for him, But, yeah, I mean, it can't be easy. Your first taste of the big Hey, here's Johnny Cueto doing 16 chimneys and pause in the middle of his, You know, routine, so that can't be easy. Everything that I've heard of things Good. Um I think that he had a very strong arm that's very big bodied capture. It is someone who began calling games even at Georgia Tech, which which isn't.
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"joey bart" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"What happens when they are unable to knock those mistakes out of the park by opposing pitchers? They didn't get many opportunities to do that this weekend and Only two home runs were hit, and they were basically, if not totally inconsequential. Do they have somewhere else to go when the home run ball? Is that there or is this just who they are, along with a lot of the teams in this league? Well, you know, I think that a couple of the personnel that they have are missing and they just want that Donovan Solano. He's a guy who's very contact oriented. They don't have time in the Stella. He's a guy. They love his own base ability and his contact skills. So you know, Yeah, when? When? When you get guys like an Alex defense and hot? You know, he's gonna He's gonna help you win Ball games. Beckett in the long ball. You know when you have it, Darren rough in there because bringing belts out now he's that same thing. I mean, you are going to be a little more home run reliant just based on his personnel. Happens to be so you know, it's it's hard to say, Well, you know when we get to that magical day when everyone's back off the injured list, and you know, every team kind of goes through that exercise all year, But you're never gonna be 100% health. But, yeah, I would agree. I think we see advantage team that has been a little older, a light on the home run ball. But you know what? I even look back at the Dodgers series and I see a positive from the way that they attacked travel balance. I mean, they certainly didn't do damage against him. But it's hard to say you're dominated by a pitcher when he's got to go close to 100 30 pitches and he doesn't want to the seventh inning, so they stay put up a fight still have competitive plate appearances against him, and I think if you're looking for a positive that's probably a good place to start. Exist. Funny. I like I love offense. And yet to my favorite guys in the club this year are just in offensive funks. Beyond belief. One is is Caselli. The Giants decide they want to go kind of catch and throw priority it with their second catcher, but man, cacao and Castle. He's great at it, but he's hitting a buck. Oh, too. What with the 2 64 on base. I mean, I know they surprised by that are or is that gonna force Joey Bart to the big leagues in the next week or two? How do you evaluate that and then talk man. I watched talk mint, and I'm like this guy's a good player. And he's a good fielder, and he's a smart player, and I think he's hitting 2 11 and and it just and every time I see him, he seems like he's got decent at bats. It's the best looking to 11 I can ever remember. Give me your thoughts on on those two guys, because Like both of them, and I think they're both contributed a lot. But man, those off those those those averages are putrid. Yeah, and before he got hurt, warmer Flora's to is the guy who hadn't done a whole I was just starting to maybe turn a little bit of a corner. Um, you know, which which has been been tough, but you know talking about. I think it's a guy you know is going to give you a good professional at that, and he's gonna be a guy who will. We'll see a lot of pitches. Um, but, yeah, you really can't. You know, scheme your way on base in this league. You're gonna have to get the fastball. You're gonna have to hit pitches in his own eventually to be successful, You know, I mean, you know, we know that on base percentage is more important than batting average and just not making it out in general. But You know, they think it's in there. They think he's going to be fine. Hey, I didn't get a chance to play a lot with the Yankees, so I'm sure he's still probably feeling like he's in spring training mode a little bit, Um, but I'm sure he's gonna get a lot more opportunities. And and and then with Cas Ali. I mean, you gotta feel bad for the guy there in Cincinnati the other day they want to 19 runs. It's a long game. He's got to catch the whole things They want to keep buster fresh for the Dodgers the next day. And what does he do? He gets smoked real boys on the funny bone by a pitch, and he strikes out against a position player to knock his average down to one or two. I mean, it's like, forgot just like he needs a three up three for four day with double in a coma or something in the worst way right now. At some point, we'll have to dig into how money to Elevens. Larry actually remembers, Uh, e think that would be an interesting statement. Uh, now I'm surprised you remember that in 9 to 11 doesn't even stand out anymore. How many to 11 during the league Right now, Probably 50 or so to 11th or less. I mean batting average. I know. Batting averages anything anymore bags, but people do realize. The batting average, the higher your batting average, the higher your on base percentage like that A batting average can actually help your on base percentage. People do realize that, don't you? Yeah, I think so. I hope so. It's kind of it's kind of part of the math equation. Right? Um, but you know, you would get guys I think of Miguel Tejada. Use a good example A guy who could hit 3 30, but he'd have a 3 40 on baseball. Yeah, you know, it s so it's like, Well, you know, is the batting average really that important when when it's really if he goes in a slump And he's never getting on base. Basically. So, you know, you have those players who kind of have a little bit of a downside to that, but no, I I get that. Yeah, I totally get it. I agree, And that's why it's just so amazing What Buster is doing this here getting like 37. I mean, he's doing it in the context of nobody being able to hit for average anymore, so Um, And I think part of that is just the fact that he can cover the plate again. He's healthy enough to be able to end He's talented enough to have an adjustable swing recon cover. Ah lot more of the strike zone. He doesn't have a groove swing, like so many hitters do these days. To where they could be pitched you and yeah, I mean, if you want to go watch a good hitter. I mean, just go watch one of Buster's it. That's and maybe we'll get back to the point where we have, you know, Buster Posey's all around the league, but right now there aren't many of them. The pitching. Let me ask you were about a third of the way close with third of the way through the season now, so I think at that point you can kind of you could tell who people are curious in your thoughts on the starting pitching outside of Logan Web the got Would you got disco funny yet? Cueto and God's been Is there are these guys do you think this is who they are, like? Can they pitched this wall throughout the season? God's Mum's the one guy look and go. You know what? I'd be surprised if he falls off it all. I think this is who he is. He's established that over more than just this year now. And I think he's going to be. He's like a front of the rotation guy. The other three, do we Me, Quito. Yours were about injury. But do we know about him? I mean, would looks really good and disco find looks really good. He had the one bump, but I mean, he's been really good since Do you expect that it? Is there any there? Any stats out there they look at and go regressions coming or how do you view it? I think there is gonna be some aggression coming just because they've just pitched the lights out. I mean, you know, so good s o. I think even the transfer office will be like, okay. We know it's not gonna be, you know. We're not gonna be swimming in this much gravy all year. Yeah, Yeah, I agree with you Look at Kevin Gausman and he's got he's got that look of a guy who's gonna be inside out of balance and You know you guys healthy, but, you know, it's interesting to see that again. The doctor's approach. I'm just cool, funny guy who's out there pumping strikes and they knew it and it's a good vantage of it. Well, you know, our other team's gonna do that. Is he gonna Aspect. But you know what? That his stuff? The stuff looks good. Johnny Cueto sitting 94. He's the guy who's out there improvising. It'll be interesting to see what they do with the Scott casting your spot in.
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"joey bart" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Is ah, great help here as she Via her Twitter account at Susan Slusser. She's chronicled here over the last hour. The moves the Giants have made. And, uh, Maybe if we think about it real hard That'll give us some indication is what the Giants will do on Saturday with either their starter or there. Uh, It's by bullpen committee deal. So about an hour ago, Scott Kazmir was scratched from his Triple A start and Sacramento Nick Tropeano. En route to San Francisco at basically the same time. The Giants announced a few minutes after US Susan dropped that via Twitter. The Giants announced that Nick Tropeano was added to the roster We mentioned Camilo Dove all has been option out. So Scott Kazmir. Was scratched from the start. You think I'm maybe he'll pitch on Saturday in combination with Nick True piano, but Gabe Kapler said about half an hour ago. No decision has been made yet on the starter or starters for Saturday. So what do we know? We're probably no closer to knowing anything about Saturday. Larry now than we were before I started mentioning any of this stuff. But what we do know is that Curtis Sally who must have felt like they were picking on him yesterday with baseballs, and she had to wear a couple of them, Curt Casali. Backup catcher of great value for the Giants. He is okay. So the idea that Joey Bart would have to come in and Caselli we get put on the I hell. That has been put to bed. So that's the only solid thing we know. Kirk to Sally. He cold. Who's gonna pitch tomorrow? I don't know. Available. Yeah, but you don't want it, so I'll do it, But it's interesting. I mean, it's like maybe It's kind of depending on what happens tonight on with. Yeah, maybe. Maybe Tropeano. Usually Tropeano is gonna be there tonight. Um damn, and he's been He's He's accelerated his owners. Well, that in San Francisco right now? Yes. Oh, maybe if they don't use Tropeano out of the bullpen tonight, maybe he starts tomorrow. Or maybe the plan is to go with Kashmir, the veteran against his former team, the Dodgers, Um, you know that that to me would make a lot of sense. I don't know how he's going down there. I know that Carmen is was, you know they were talking about condom? Inez, who's a lefty? Who could be a Saturday option. But he had a 15 pitch inning and inning of relief. I believe yesterday. So that probably takes him out. And then you mentioned the kiss Sally thing I mean, make us Ali looked like he was in a world of hurt yesterday that the one off the elbow that he took looked like it really hurt. I mean, He grunted like it hard and in the ball and what a weird angle it came straight down, and I can't like it hit something like maybe actually the actual bone, but, um, they pulled Joey Bart from the Triple A game after five innings yesterday. And the thinking was maybe Kasatka. Sally would go on the injured list and they need to promote Bart. But clearly, that's not the case so Um, you know, I mean it, Z one. I'll say this. It's interesting. When you look at these the injured list for both teams, I would say, without counting that the two teams giants and Dodgers have in the neighborhood. Of 25 guys on the deal. I think that's a ton man. That's a ton of guys on the debt on it. They could entire between the two teams. They have an entire team of guys. That are injured right now. Interest in L. A has got heart. George League Baseball this year for everybody, especially muscle pulls soft tissue injuries, that kind of stuff. Yeah, So I mean, it's like, and it's no, It's funny. It's like no longer about how deep is your 25 man? It's really about how deep you're 40, man. You know how how how many got and you're going to stay on top of it. I mean, you got I mean, it's a day to day thing with this sport like this with all these little muscle poles, and as you said, soft tissue injuries, and then you get hit by pitches and things that happened in the game, and then just things out of nowhere like we saw. We saw Flores trying to go first to third and it was pretty clear is as he hit the second base bag that he didn't have the same Getty up and he was grimacing. And sure enough, he was, you know, put on the list so You know, it's just it's Z A. You know, a lot of stopping and starting and sprinting and that kind of thing, and it just lends itself toe muscle pulls. But really, it's just the Giants first grow around as far as their first tier of starters, I think is good enough to compete all year long if they can maintain even just a Some, you know, moderate, You know, health and moderation. But if it gets too like, you know, your ninth 10th 11th 12th 13th starter your Oh, God, Yeah. You know when you're down there, they don't l A has got more depth than the Giants and the Padres do, too. So hopefully the Giants can can cobble cobble this thing together and not have Ah lot, Maura injuries from here because You know they're They're really usurping whatever depth they have, and you don't see them. If there's Total disaster scenario presents itself where you just start losing start after starter you don't see the Giants even if they are in contention. Here in the next couple months. You don't see them going out and Renting a guy or, you know, spending prospect. Capital to get a guy to come in, too. Maintain a level of competency to possibly get them into the playoff mix the wild card or you know the best case scenario. Winning the division. It's just it's not I don't know if it's like this success that the Giants have if we're kind of seeing it all the way through to the end. I don't know if it's necessarily arrived a year early or late the time early, but it's clear that the plane is eventually I don't think it's that far off. You start to get some of these young guys here in the mix that we've been talking about for a while to trade. Any of them obviously would be. It's not gonna happen. It would be foolish to do so. But I just don't see them. You know doing that to maintain Um, uh, but a certain amount of status quo with what they have going on right now. Yeah, I think I think it's gonna be. You know, they're going to make those moves on the margins and they're gonna They're gonna know everybody else's roster. And, um heck, we just saw the Diamondbacks today at a player and send out a pretty young, talented reliever that they signed from Cuba. Yohan Lopez, Katherine's 90, You know, seven miles an hour and It's those kinds of guys you know under. The Giants haven't made a move for him, but I would imagine they're gonna desk..
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"You know, every time he every time he plays, and so I'm all for it. I'm all for it. This is the version of Buster we're gonna get. I started thinking about, like next year. Like you know, he They do have an option to pick up his contract next year. I don't know, miss. I'm getting way ahead of myself here, but I think it's 20 something million or they can buy him out for like, Yeah, I'm wondering if you know their payrolls so manageable right now. I wonder if he continues approves like that. You just pick it up. I know. I was thinking about that the other day. Um Or is it a situation where you just talked to him about restructuring, you know, And you know, you kind of have to You kind of have to look at it is Joey Bart's the next man in line. Probably the next man online and he's already breaking and triple A's are you doing here? We figured he probably would do is hit. The minor leagues just didn't his ropes. But do you really want to just Blockbuster go this year and give Joey Barton the job next year that I think that's the big question. I'm talking monster continues to play like he is right now. It's healthy. Um, if this is what we're going to get from buster this whole season. You can't let you can't. He can't play for another team. Did you let him go? Right? Yeah. You know, it's just a question of what's the right contract Worry. Where do you feel like that? You know how long can you sign up for because you know buster problems, but I don't want to play as long as he's going. He's feeling healthy. You know, I wouldn't you I'm saying he could probably play three or four more years, and with that being said You know, not not really getting into the numbers, but then solidifying him is the whole of hammer of teaching homeless families, so and I'm sure that you know is a giant fan and this giant from office they like Buster to play his whole career in a giant uniforms. So he's making. He's making their decision very difficult. Right now, I think A sport is the numbers go? I think it's one of those days you restructures deal you sign up for maybe two or three years. I don't know the dollar amount on that, and then he can kind of You could bring us jellies, Barton, you can kind of phase him in, you know, somehow some way. Um, but I I don't I don't want to see him go, so e think they gotta figure out? They've gotta figure that out visiting 3 74 and getting bases loaded doubles in one, Nothing game's in Cincinnati. So it's just fantastic. So I'm gonna Castillo is another thing that I just I felt the mention of, but he understands this is that You know we're talking about his offense. But there's nobody better behind the dish either. And we're talking about how how the starting pitching how good they've been this year and how the bullpen really has kind of come back from Some tough outings to build. I've got like yesterday. You know, um, you know, piecing together with nine ounce yesterday. I mean, um motels doing some good things, but just be able to do that. A lot of that has to do with the trust you have in your catcher. Um, the fingers. He's putting down the confidence that he has behind the plate, just building saying the right things. I mean, Now that kiss Ali and Posey go upto Logan Web, You know, after two starts, and it was a pick up the pace after the first inning, you know, and all of a sudden he goes out there and shoves the rest of the game. And that That carries over into a really, really good outing against just Maddie the other day because he does pick up the pace. So I mean those those things that they rookie catchers. They just don't it doesn't they don't pick that stuff up. They've been don't really in. Plus, they don't really have the credibility at To really talk to players like that, because it takes time track record and experience to build a trust Those guys something, um what he's what he's done with the pitching staff they share. It goes unnoticed to most people, but not for me. I mean, I think that's where he has made mean value comes into play. It's a great point. And so stay Buster stay and whether it's an extension or contract pickup will see that is the season marches on and see what Farhaan does with that and get ready. By the way, if you're Jones and all this talk is making you Jones for some Giants baseball. Guess what? 9 35 this morning. On the game is, of course on candy are one of 45 and six cities could be John and Dwayne on the radio call. He had Kaiping. Yeah, typing Miller, Um, and because of the YouTube game, That's why that's happening. So I'm just sports. Bailey will not have the game. All right. You know, you can listen to on the radio, which I would probably Dios if I had a choice, said Sean said. Very good man. Check it out on YouTube. But, um But yeah, it's an early one. It is an early one to get away and they fly back to face the Dodgers. And before I ask you about the Dodgers, just one thought on this. I mean it. Something as magical growing up. You're always since you remember Billy White shoes. Johnson growing up. No hitters were magical things, man that moved Children and baseball fans and I got a fallen out of my like on the no hitter as Halloween candy..
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"You had a split. They were lucky to get a split to be out of it with you. Well, I I really believe that should've won three out of four of those two games. In between. God's been just pitched a hell of a game. They just couldn't get enough Rice for bottom. I'm sorry I would not have put him out there. In the ninth inning. Godman. Yeah. No, he was pitching. Yeah, but he was pitching fabulous. And the two hits that Gino he gave up was a ball that was outside the zone it Frasier hit. And then it was a hit and run or straight steel in Newman caught the pitch almost on his fingertips. Hey, still had life I would have kept him out there. He was pitching very well. Low pitch count. On D. He's one of your top pitchers, so you've got to give those veteran pitchers a chance to finish those games. I hope they go into this in Cincinnati, learning the lesson that forget about thinking about sweets. One game at a time. One. You know you're the best man. That's exactly whatever coach would say. Forget about the four game series. Win one at a time. Good stuff. Gino. What do you got going on tonight? You know, what do you got going on? You got a barbecue or anything? Go on Gino, South City. It's like winter time in South City today, that's called It was overcast all morning. All right, Bill. Take care, my friend, You know, Thank you for the call. Let's get to Bart in Hayward Bart a little happier today than yesterday. I don't know if you remember me Yacht Bell. I used to speak to Marty all the time. And I want to say something to you stuff. I want to say one thing. I'll start with this. Baseball is a great sport because the way I looked at it It's really a chess match. You know? Of course, you're gonna agree with the managers and this series made me so happy to be not only a nationally extent but a giant 10. Look, Discrim ski. Don't forget. He just missed the home run is last sit back before he blasted that one, right? Yeah, well, he hit that ball to left field. I went all the way to the warning track, Miss one. And then he hit one. Yeah, I'm going to tell you something. I had to have a feeling that look off course of previous call, said one game at a time. I've being a baseball fan. I would be so happy even if the Giants won a wild card at surprise of brace for world these, I think they have it in them. They got the pitching. Right The way I looked at it, Okay. Starting pitching is a plus. All right, They may be beat up, but don't forget place can place generally come back. They got some young ones. Now they got the veterans. That I like Posey, teaching the catchers and let me ask you about catchers off course, poses a veteran that great future Hall of Famer totally agree what she had the catches them theirs are selling selling. Now who do you in your opinion is a better player. Him was like guy who has my name for the last time. I forgot his first name. Oh, Joey Barton Jo, Joey Bart. It will not come up and back up. They want him to be the first string catcher. He's in Triple A right now. Doing very well. Scott again, you know 304 100 bats. He's on the radar. Also. A couple other got Chadwick Trump down there. Hey, was up last year, But you know what? You gotta tip your hat to Kirk Caselli, A guy that plays maybe once every four or five days he gets in there and he really controls the game and communicates with the pictures. His batting average is down. It's tough to play, you know a couple times a week, and I just think he's both these catchers are so valuable for the pictures of the Giants. One last thing I want to say, because you say you have a lot of calls. I really appreciate you taking my call him. The guy that takes your calls are actually remembered me. And once I spoke to you were derived a blue asking Fighter who? Who's toughest stop bad awards that he faced. And, you know, I saw you pitch once. Well, that's good, Bart, Don't go that far along down, Barco. Go long, long, long time ago. Come on, now. I don't know how old you are, but I'm 61. I'm going to tell you something. Let me tell you very quickly to cut to the chase. I've been found. Baseball sits up four years old and I told my grandpa P and my dad The same players Come back year after year. That was before you don't free agency, Curt Flood what he did. Okay, but I'm going to tell you I love the game and I'm going to say Go giants and let me tell you I'm going to predict here. My word on that was today state. It's May state May 16th Bert State. Look, I'm gonna speak to you again and predict. They win a wild card this year. It least I'll be satisfied. I'll be waiting. Barred. I'll be waiting for you. I'm in a market in my book. I may 16th Bart said. He's that the Giants are gonna get in the playoffs. Okay, Bart, you're on now. Man, Your honor to it. Thanks so much for taking my call. Have a good Sunday. Appreciate a Reagan. Tracy. How are you? Are you off the ledge? Alleges. I just want to know. I just wanna make sure you're okay today, Ray, You're okay. Today. Yesterday you were fired up because they lost that game because I have in the last two days. Listen the game today and I'm pretty close to it. And I wish I could see it on TV. But I can't because I have a wife like I understood anyway, away from that, so I listen to read. I got a good radio and you've been else so My comments on that would pitch very well. Excellent. You know it does. And then the defense of a giant played very well. Uh, you know, always to the IMF. You all feel And then also with the Yes you can't take anything away from Pittsburgh because pitching They played very well. I really I was surprised at how well they their pictures through their bullpen was pretty good. Richard Rodriguez. They're closer. Shut him down. Adam Frazier boil Boy. He is impressed. Me is their leadoff hitter. A couple guys in that lineup. But again, you know, you look at this team compared to what the Giants haven't Everybody's like that should have swapped him. Well, good for that. Good idea, But they're out there trying to beat you, too. And the Giants is came up short and two out of the four games. Take the split, and now you're going into Cincinnati. That's what you've got to think about going back to a night game. Goldman Goodman Goodman, Gausman Guardsmen. Yeah, one year advance one year people just saying that we should keep him in there because it is pitch count was low. You still throwing strikes and I think he should Memphis the game. Well, he did. He got in through the eighth, and he started the 19 and gave up. A couple blew Pitts, who was 1st and 3rd. And then they brought him again through well, he only had 96 pitches when he came out of the game for 70 M for strikes. We had a lot of a lot of effort. No, baby bell went away. They posted him and him and Alex Wood and decent. Funny. I've been stellar. These guys have been consistent. They've been going out their battle in every game. And you know what? Johnny Cueto is going to get better. We just gotta let Johnny get back in the Toon and Logan Web. He's all right. I mean, this is a good starting five and Major league baseball in the giant fan should be happy with this. The suit. Efficiency must know we're doing something. Hey, listen, there is no pushover. And what happened then? The team that we play or any blade are not push over the man. What? What? What? What The records are because they're professional players..
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"Him missing on Wednesday. Those your half past headlines. Now back to the Tolbert Kruger and Brooks T. K B on KNBR 1045 and 6 80, ft sports leader. Welcome in our Giants insider Andrew Bag early of the athletic bags is joining us is August Do on the Omagh guest line bags. We appreciate it, my man. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? Fine, um way all seem to be of the same mind that for the sub coming Giants season. You know you You want to see definite progress. Don't want to see any regression but part of their progress is he want to these young guys that we've been hearing about for years? You want to live to start to contribute and and start to contribute in a big way, if possible, and I bring it up because I want you to tol spend on something you tweeted a few days ago where you said The foreign said that Ramos was on his way of making his debut is debut in 2020, and because they didn't have a minor league season. That was that made that difficult, But this year, the Giants are going to place prospects conservatively at the outset. But they won't hesitate to promote aggressively and I think of your Giants fan and you want to see Elena Ramos come up. That sounds like good news, because if he's if he's In some way, shape or form ready. They're not going to say Well, these little bit more seasoning. Let's get him up right now this year. Yeah. You know, I think you could sort of you could sort of window people in the giant sister in the two categories. Right? You've got your Elliot Ramos is in your Marco. Luciano knows 100 bishops and the people have made drafted. They're in the course of development, and I think if all goes well, you could see some of those people were almost maybe at the top of that list. Joey Bart in the big leagues at some point this season, and that's graduating sort of the wave of people in their system. I think you've got the people that they've acquired or people who are, you know, a little older, but still, you know, could be breakout. Candidates are still haven't had that opportunity to maybe, you know, be the next Mikey Stransky, and that involves your jail in Davis's and, you know, players like that Lamont way that they just acquired. So I think they're trying to keep the opportunity open for everyone. You know, That's why you didn't see them sign a George Springer because you know you don't want to give a five year contract essentially locks down a position when they're like, Hey, it's incumbent on us to keep the avenues as clear as possible for people to establish themselves. Whether they're people in our system that we think could be real haIf hyah! You know, motor players that could be franchise anchors like like a chili, Bart, or whether it be guys who you know, you know, could be the next Mikey Stransky and I think they're going to try to. Hopefully, By the end of this season, they'll be getting some contributions from from each of those buckets. You know it's gonna be. It's gonna be an interesting year. I think Ramos is gonna be fun to watch. You know if he can be over the oblique, which sounds like he's had kind of multiple oblique polls if he could get beyond that injury. This guy might be he might break the famine in Giants land as far as, uh, outfield coming up in the farm system. What are you hearing The bags about Ramos. As far as defensively, is he can he I mean, he thinks he can play center field cannae every day in the big leagues, or is he more of a right fielder? I mean, that's what scouts will tell you that he's got the body type that's going to play better in a corner, especially write jokes. He's got a good arm. I mean, you never want to back away unless you have two from a player, whether it's Marco Luciano is taking it shortstop or or Ronald sticking of center field. This. This is an organization that's got a lot of guys who can play in center, but they don't really have, you know, in established center fielder and Mauricio, two behind it, I think a better job than anyone could have expected. It just sort of becoming a center fielder last year and ended up playing out there a lot. We know Mike. He screams. He can play out there. We know Austin Slater can play out there. But we also know that you know, it's it's kind of glaring when the Giants don't have you know somebody who's At least the average defensively in center field. We've seen it whether it's seen an angel Pagon late career or Denard span, or, you know, you could go down the list. Go all the way back to. You know when they signed him, Roberts. So, um, you know, I do think that's an area that they probably organizationally don't really have right now. Same same true with Connor Bishop. People of scouts will say that he's He's a big guy. He probably would would profile better in a corner. But, you know, I think they've got a lot of people who can kind of play their part time and right now they'll try to piece it together. And, you know, they've got a Stephen Duggars as well that they no complaint. Very credible center field, but they're waiting on the bat to come around. So, um, you know, and perhaps Dylan Davis that Z a place for him to play. Because he can also play a little bit of center. So all these guys that they work flexibility they want to be able to say, Hey, we can stick you almost anywhere, but at some point you need you need something more than a guy who could start once a week without being exposed or we'll go there on the double switch. You kind of need someone who could take charge and then every player at that position I would imagine Du Bon is probably the guy who has the best chance to do that. But But yeah, that's that's sort of where they are. What about the pitching staff bags over there? That's obviously a D m curious what you think of the pitching staff and we talked about you know the following years, when they may spend that big money. We always talk about position players, but maybe it's pitching that they Go after. That was kind of the Cubs thing, You know, just bring up all the young hitters and then go after pitching and they're in the fridge and market. Try to go that route. How do you think the Giants go about this? E? I guess it depends on how good they think the young guys are. Because if they all hit well, then they're great. It's like, okay, we got all these positions covered instead of half of them hit, that'd be awesome. But what about the pitching staff this year and then and moving forward? Yeah. I think you nailed it with with what the cubs have done with. The Astros were great example..
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"And not so much like. I don't even think that's the biggest question like pretend like relevant to success for the Giants. But I do think, if poses good or opposes the Posey. We were used to seeing for so many years. Obviously, the Giants are in a much better situation. I think the better question is like What are they looking for? Like you can have your expectations for like we need him to to put up these numbers. But what does he need to do to help this team be successful? He's gonna play Gold Glove defense is just what he does behind the plate. I don't know how much run he's gonna get it First. There's a lot of right handed bats. There's there's no reason for Buster Posey to pick up the first base and spent this year. No reason whatsoever. So the question I have is, Does he end up in a situation like we're watching Warrior basketball right now? Second warrior reference of the pot by the way today. Steph Curry Looks like he's more fresh than we've ever seen. And Draymond Green looks pretty good, too. He had a four game scratch over the last week or so. Re and 50 assist his legs look good. I think there's something to be said about guys in the N B, A who play year after your deep into the playoffs, putting a lot of extra miles on those legs. The same can be said about Buster Posey in the postseason. For that stretch of years, he comes up in 09 sure, at the end within 2010 in May deep into the postseason, win a World Series 12 the exact same thing 14. Same thing, 16 the same thing into the playoffs and all of those times. I think you said this last week outside of the Grand Slam off from that late. Oh, so there's not a whole lot of offensive calling cards for Buster Posey in the playoffs, So it's all about how he handles the staff how he handles the defense, how he calls pitches and maybe unrivaled by anybody in the game today outside of Yadi Molina. In ST Louis Buster is the best catcher of this generation. So for me, it's about where he's hitting in the lineup. What are your expectations for the offensive production? So I don't know if he's gonna be like Is it gonna be Steph Curry fresh because he's had this time off, or is he gonna be that hip is just is just still not what it used to be. You know what I mean? I'm really Yeah, I'm really fascinated because I believe it was. Nick Hundley, who said back in 2017 when he was first playing with the Giants came into spring training and said after Hundley had played it course field in Colorado that if Buster Posey was a Colorado rocky, he would win the batting title every year. He is that type of a hitter. He is that type of knowledge plate discipline, ability to go the other way work with what pictures are giving him and he just wasn't healthy enough in 2017 or 2018 2019 to really do much damage. And now that he will have this year and a half off in between serious baseball competition that's putting stress on his body. Will he return to that level? Where you know he is a 300 hitter? He is a 3 10 guy. We know he's not gonna hit 20 home runs. That's just not happening. He probably won't play enough to hit 20 home runs, Will he? Catch 100 games. Well, it only be 81 games. How quickly will Joey Bart working the next? I'm really fascinated. See all of us, and I think we're gonna learn. Ah, whole lot. In spring training about what Buster Posey is capable of just based solely on where he isn't lineup how often he's playing. If they've got him going back to backs. It'll be interesting to see Adam. I want to move on to pressing question Number two, and that is speaking of the lineup. Speaking of where Buster Posey's hitting. I do believe it'll be much lower this year than it was under Bruce Bochy is the Giants lineup better? Against right handed pitchers or left handed pitchers. Keep this in mind against righties. You'll see Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt, Tommy Lost Ella Alex Dickerson. Maybe new trade acquisition. Lamont weighed against lefties. It'll be Donovan Solano, Donnie Barrels. Wilmer Flores, Darren Rough, Austin Slater and Marie She. O D. Bon. What's funny? Is there so many guys and this is far Hunt's plan and we see this with the Dodgers. You're going to see it with the Padres. So much versatility is what makes them attractive. You can mix and match now I do think When they have the left handed lineup out there against the left handed pitcher. They're gonna miss the designated hitter more than some other teams. I think not having for having the ability to put Wilmer Flores that there is an extra bad not having a guy to put have the ability to put Darren rough necessarily out there because Alex Dickerson probably going to start left and that comes back to my left fielder situation with you is if he was the opening day left fielder last year, and if They have a right handed starter for Seattle on opening day. You should see Alex Dickerson in left field, right? Who's the Mariners? Ace to the Mariners Have an ace? Who's on the Mariners. That's the very question like Is this strange? Gorgeous? Still up there now he actually just kind of minor league deal with the Reds. So, Yeah, they're most prominent player for the last few years, getting a minor league contract in Cincinnati. That's when you know you have built a juggernaut, a team that has produced so many so many incredible players. I mean, we're talking. You know Alex Rodriguez and Omar Vizquel was up there. Randy Johnson's up there. Ken Griffey, Griffey's You and your radio Martinez bread, but nothing to write home about. You know, the greatest single season team of all time nothingto write home about anyway, when it comes to the success of this lineup, I really do think the right handed hitting line up against the left handed pitching is going to be the team with the most success. Donovan Solano. What we saw from him last year is gonna be huge. Brandon Belt was awful against left handed pitching last year didn't see a bunch of it, but under I think was under 1 30 against lefties. So I'm or intrigued by the guys that were brought in last year that we saw success from Mikey, as is going to be out there against lefties and righties. I really like the idea of Darren rough planes from first base against lefties and getting a chance to hit. Maybe you put a guy like that, like Wilmer Flores over a third. I think the deal doesn't play who doesn't play first base on this team? If Darren Rough, Austin Slater, Brandon Belt, Tommy Lost Ella and Wilmer Flores and Buster Posey all had first baseman's mitt. Question in spring training question is who doesn't get to play against the left? Which right handed batter you leave it out of the line up against the lefty. I got a place later. I gotta play. I probably more issued a bond for me to bond may be the one who he may be. He may be the only guy capable of going to shortstop because you really gonna trust a guy named Donny barrels to go play with the glove shortstop right now, after all the years he made last season, So what you're telling me is with these burning questions. I've got no answers about burning. That's the issue. This is this is back to your home. Which light up this better. We like it so funny, I think last year we spent all if we were doing this podcast one year ago today on February 11th 2020. And by the way, what? We had no idea what was coming, right? Yeah, no idea. Not only that, Not only the covert 19 pandemic was coming, but the Darren rough exist. Turn Dr Existence by the way we were looking at, like, Yo yo. Omar Sanchez will be out there at second for the Giants. Billy Hamilton Center. Exactly. So, the burning questions in February much different than the burning questions at the end of march, right?.
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"What are your expectations for the offensive production? So I don't know if he's gonna be like Is it gonna be Steph Curry fresh because he's had this time off, or is he gonna be that hip is just is just still not what it used to be. You know what I mean? I'm really Yeah, I'm really fascinated because I believe it was. Nick Hundley, who said back in 2017 when he was first playing with the Giants came into spring training and said after Hundley had played it course field in Colorado that if Buster Posey was a Colorado rocky, he would win the batting title every year. He is that type of a hitter. He is that type of knowledge plate discipline. Ability to go the other way work with what pictures are giving him and he just wasn't healthy enough in 2017 2018 2019 to really do much damage And now that he will have this year and a half off in between serious baseball competition that's putting stress on his body. Will he return to that level? Where you know he is a 300 hitter? He is a 3 10 guy. We know he's not gonna hit 20 home runs. That's just not happening. He probably won't play enough to hit 20 home runs. Will he catch 100 games? Well, it'll only be 81 games. How quickly will Joey Bart working the next I'm really fascinated. See all of us, and I think we're gonna learn. Ah, whole lot. In spring training about what Buster Posey is capable of just based solely on where he isn't lineup how often he's playing. If they've got him going back to backs. It'll be interesting to see Adam. I want to move on to pressing question Number two, and that is speaking of the lineup. Speaking of where Buster Posey's hitting. I do believe it will be much lower this year that it was under Bruce Bochy is the Giants lineup better? Against right handed pitchers or left handed pitchers. Keep this in mind against righties. You'll see Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt, Tommy Lost Ella Alex Dickerson. Maybe new trade acquisition. Lamont weighed against lefties. It'll be Donovan Solano, Donnie Barrels. Wilmer Flores, Darren Rough, Austin Slater and Marie She. O D. Bon. What's funny? Is there so many guys and this is far Hunt's plan and we see this with the Dodgers. You're going to see it with the potteries. So much versatility is what makes them attractive. You can mix and match now I do think When they have the left handed lineup out there against the left handed pitcher. They're gonna miss the designated hitter more than some other teams. I think not only for not having the ability to put Wilmer Flores out there is an extra bad not having a guy to put have the ability to put Darren rough necessarily out there because Alex Dickerson probably going to start left and that comes back to my left fielder situation with you is if he was the opening day left fielder last year, and if They have a right handed starter for Seattle on opening day. You should see Alex Dickerson in left field, right? Who's the Mariners? Ace to the Mariners Have an ace? Who's on the Mariners. That's a very question it like it is a strange going to still up there. Now. He actually just kind of minor league deal with the Reds. So, yeah, they're most prominent player for the last few years, getting a minor league contract in Cincinnati. That's when you know you have built a juggernaut, a team that has produced so many so many incredible players. I mean, we're talking. You know Alex Rodriguez and Omar Vizquel was up there. Randy Johnson's up there. Ken Griffey, Griffey's You and you're doing Martinez bread, but nothing to write home about, You know, the greatest single season team of all time. Nothingto write home about anyway, when it comes to the success of this lineup, I really do think the right handed hitting line up against the left handed pitching is going to be the team with the most success. Donovan Solano. What we saw from him last year is gonna be huge. Brandon Belt was awful against left handed pitching last year didn't see a bunch of it. But under I think was under 1 30 against lefties. So I'm or intrigued by the guys that were brought in last year that we saw success from Mikey, as is going to be out there against lefties and righties. I really like the idea of Darren Rough planes from first base. Against lefties and getting a chance to hit. Maybe you put a guy like like Wilmer Flores over a third. I think that doesn't play Who doesn't play first base on this team? If Darren Rough, Austin Slater, Brandon Belt, Tommy Lost Ella and Wilmer Flores and Buster Posey all have first baseman's mitt. My question is spring training. The question is who doesn't get to play against the left? Which right handed batter you leave it out of the lineup against the lefty. Gotta place later. I gotta play. I probably Maurice here to bond for me to bond may be the one who he may be. He may be the only guy capable of going to shortstop because you really gonna trust a guy named Donny barrels to go play with the glove shortstop right now, after all the years he made last season. So what you're telling me is with these burning questions. I've got no answers about burning. That is the issue. This is this is back to your home. Which light up this better. We like it so funny, I think last year we spent all if we were doing this podcast one year ago today on February 11th, 2000 and 20. And by the way, what? We had no idea what was coming, right? Yeah, no idea. Not only that Not only the covert 19 pandemic was coming, but the Darren rough exist during rough existence. By the way we were looking at, like, Yo yo Omar Sanchez will be out there. It's second for the Giants. Billy Hamilton Center. Exactly So the burning questions in February much different than the burning questions at the end of March, right?.
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"Crowley. He covers the Giants for the Bay Area News group carries nice enough to hang out with us on the home against line here in the Tolbert, Kruger and Brooks show. Carrie, We always appreciate the time how you doing, man. Um, well, especially now that baseball's coming back looking forward to head on down to the desert soon. How are you guys? We are doing fine and we share your sentiment. You know what baseball's here? Let's go ahead and get it on. Unfortunately, it sure seems like When it comes to the National League, a specific in the National League West. We kind of know who the big dogs are gonna be the Dodgers and the Padres. But I don't think that's gonna make this giant season any less interesting and Intriguing is the rotation eyes that the not necessarily the biggest issue on this team, but is that something that really needs to be sorted out and hashed out in spring training and when we get answers when we get so once we get to opening day? I think it's certainly the biggest concern right now, Rod and you look at the rotation the Giants are planning around right now. It's Kevin Gosman, Johnny Cueto, Anthony DeSclafani, Alex Wood, and then a competition for the fifth starter job. And right now you look at that and say the front runner. Is Logan Web, but I would not be surprised at all if they added one more major league free agent Edition. Maybe swing a trade somewhere with using their excess infielder BOPE in depth and potentially signing two or three guys to minor league deals who can compete for jobs in the rotation like they did last year with Trevor Cahill. Thais Ross few years before that, with Derek Holland just because Go from 60 games to 162 games is a monumental challenge in itself to do it with the rotation. The Giants are trying to do it with where you've got a number of guys who are trying to come back from bounce back seasons or coming off of injuries. I mean, that is a really, really difficult task, not even to mention the division that they're in. Center field. I mean, they were rumored to be after Jackie Bradley Jr. He still hasn't signed. It Sounds like he wants maybe a four year deal or maybe a five year deal. I don't think I can't see them going that long with him with all the outfielders they have. In the pipeline. Where do you think they stand with Bradley? You think they're out? You think they're still monitoring? You think there's a chance? It seems like everybody's kind of blocking it and a long term deal for him. Yeah, I would imagine they're monitoring Larry. I don't think that anything is likely. And I wouldn't say that they're probably even in on Jackie Bradley Jr at this point, especially after the addition of Lamont Wade via the trade with Minnesota and trading Sean Anderson to get the left handed hitting center field prospects. But I think that they'll move forward with Tommy lost Ella being the left handed edition, the bath that they were talking about that they were looking for, and I think that list l A in the infield really does compliment some of their other left handed hitters. Well, you looked the lineup. They could have against righties. You have less Stella, you have Alex Dickerson, You have Mikey Stransky, Brandon Belt. That's a really tough quartet of hitters to navigate through and then in center field. I would say that Marie she had a bomb is probably the front the front runner to get most of the playing time there, but expect way to compete in spring training. Maybe Steven Duggar will find his way into the mix. He's still on the 40 man roster in a few years ago, the judge, we're very excited about him, and so I just think that center field is no longer as big of a priority because they did address that left handed hole in their lineup by adding less Stella. Carry. Which one of the young guy is, Uh, you are most likely to come up and play and get some games and some of bats or some endings this year. The really tough question to answer, Tom because all of the young or damn it answer. I can't answer it. Well, all the young really exciting guys gonna be playing in San Jose, it lo Wei and Eugene it Hi, eight this year, and so you're going to see Marco Luciano Hunter Bishop Louise to review you're gonna be hearing those names all season, but they're really not gonna have a chance to impact this Giants lineup if there was one guy Who I said by the middle of the summer or the end of the season. If he really had an opportunity, it would be Elliott Ramos. And, Of course, Joey Bart's going to be in the mix. We know that he'll probably start the season in Triple A, but eventually he's going to be in that tandem with Buster Posey. But Ramos is the guy who they're looking for. To make major strides. I'd say, probably double a triple A first half of the season. They have to add him. The 40 Man roster by the end of this winter, anyway, so you might as well take a look at him at the end of the year, particularly with the power production. He can give you to see if he can still be that premium center field prospect that they were hoping for when they first drafted him back in 2017. And so I think that hopes were pinned high on Ramos right now. We're talking Giants with Terry Crowley, who covers the Giants for the Bay Area News Group, a group led by the San Jose Mercury News. Carrie is joining us on the Omagh guess line. Do you think the Giants are going to out of necessity have to spend Portion of the beginning of the season..
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"They're going to make a trade where they flip prospect or young hitting for prospect or young pitching, and Joey Bart could be one of the guys going the other way. But I think at some point they're going to make one of those deals that's gonna balance. The upper levels of their system out a little bit because they don't have that balance right now, and it could be Joey Bart, but you know, we all knew from watching him last year. The only reason he was in the big leagues was because it was the only place that he could get some meaningful development. Um, you know, we saw that he's got a lot of work to do on both sides of the ball, especially with play discipline. And you know he shouldn't have been in the big leagues last year, but it made sense for them to do that, And now he's going to go to Triple A and that I think it was pretty obvious was going to be the next step in his development path, But you know, it's e think they like the player. They say they like the player. You make a good point that He wasn't drafted by them, and, you know, he doesn't really have the on base strikeout to walk, type hitting profile that they generally value in in a hitter. So so you know, but but, hey, it's on them to develop him and into tournament to that kind of header. If they can do it, and that's that's going to be part of their challenge for their player development staff. So, um, you know, I think that if there's something that makes sense that this offseason or this spring or whatever That would require moving Joey Barton. I think they consider it. I absolutely think they would. I don't think that they're looking to trade him at this point, but I think they realized that there is a decent chance that he could best help. Them move forward in their sort of organizational restocking. If if he's moved to for somebody else, That definitely is a possibility down the boat. You know, fellas, I don't know if you see that seen this yet, Right? Don't know if you saw this come across, but I'm just seeing right now. Come across Twitter that It says the Giants are close to a deal with the veteran infielder. Tommy Lost, Ella. What? What do you think it was Stella, who can play? What Second place Third Pretty good offensive player was with Joe Maddon in Chicago, then followed Joe Maddon tow the Angels Theeighties traded form at the end of the year, and I thought they were really keen on re signing him. But that would be a really nice pickup. If that, indeed is the case. What do you guys think? Or what bags will? What's your first thought? He was the guy the number one free agent out there that I thought sit for them and because they need someone who could be sort of a lefty compliment for Longoria for Solano, Um and he's somebody who led the majors in strikeout, lowest strikeout percentage. When we talk about how many words are real where Joey Bahr, it doesn't really fit. What they value in the hitter. Tommy was still it does all that perfectly exactly what they want. The guy who gets on base doesn't strike out and has some power and it's been emerging power and you can play multiple positions. He is the perfect guy and I thought he was going to be their number one target. Um, you know this off season, so I'm not sure who is reporting that something's close but have says they're close. Got it. Got it? Well, he's He's the number one guy. I thought that he is the guy who really stood what they needed in the near term. All right. Well, sounds like you got a story to go get so we're gonna let you go. But Andrew back early of the athletic your time for your perspective have made the show better. My man. We appreciate you be well. Thanks, bags. Good stuff, man. Thank you, brother bags our can be our and sort of yellow. Still, it was good for the FDA is when they got him. Yeah, he Wasit down the stretch, So it's a player. Yeah, man, I think it's a very good fit for the Giants. And once again the A's day, Rough day for the little guys go. The more things change, the more they stay..