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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 124 Pick 6 Ep. 5

The Tim McKernan Show

22:19 min | 2 years ago

The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 124 Pick 6 Ep. 5

"Yes, yes. Welcome into another edition of the Tim occurred and show on the inside jail podcast network from the home loan expert dot com studios. I am your host Timothy, Michael mckernan and today the homeowner expert dot com. Studios are on the road in Las Vegas. I am in Las Vegas for my birthday, fun and games, and it's only fitting that we're doing our sports wagering podcasts from Las Vegas where I feel like this week, free money in honor of the late great. Joe Straus could be given out courtesy of the Colorado Rockies just absolutely shipping this week, and I wonder if they will continue that to the dismay of cardinal fans through the weekend. But that's the one play that I've been observing. I've been in Las Vegas going, oh God, even though there were like minus two hundred for the marquess start on Wednesday night. I'm like, it's kind of falling into the category of being worth it. Not only are they winning, they're winning big, sweat free. So hopefully on this podcast, we will give you some sweat, free wins as well. We did have somebody last week of the three of us producer Joe and g unit, and I'm going to be representing their picks for them this week since we don't have three people on the phone while I'm in Las Vegas, we did have one person of the three of us just go on a heater last week, and it's the same person who started off with week. One going one in five g. unit went five and one. It has restored order last week. This guy might struggle with college picks, but he knows his NFL. I've never been around somebody who who struggles in college but can figure out the NFL. But g unit is picking NFL games at one hell of a rate. He didn't have any NFL games to work with in week one. Then he gets some NFL week too. And he goes three and one week two on the NFL in week three. He struggled a bit in went one two. That was the infamous double five star lock on the chiefs Steelers under. I think he was just I think he was under the influence of something on that play. And then last week he was to at o- on the NFL but five and one overall. So he is well above the fifty five percent against the spread profitability Mark on the NFL. And I I to tell you something when g unit makes an NFL play. At this point, I might little small taste on it as well and roll with him. So with that all set, we will have the pics of producer Joe of g unit and myself here on pick six as we are in the home loan expert dot com studios, Ryan Kelly is the sponsor of our studios. And if you are a fan of the podcast with the interviews on Monday, Gregg, anger, our guest this week, Darren Pang coming up next week, make sure you support the sponsors. If you enjoy questions from the audience, everyone in this day, make sure you support the sponsors. And if you enjoy pick six, make sure you support the sponsors three podcasts per week here on the Tim Carney show the sponsors make it possible. Ryan, Kelly is the home loan expert dot com. If you're in the market to buy a home, if you're in the market to refinance, just go to the hormone expert dot com. You'll see two tabs on says by one says, refinance you click the one that works for you and off you go. And the next thing you know you're doing business with somebody lied. Oh, is going to take great care of you and save you money. Enjoy the shows support the sponsors, Ryan Kelly on board with Ryan Kelly morning after four years now. And he's been with me on the Tim mckernan show for here approaching our first anniversary on October. First, Ryan, Kelly, the home loan expert, the sponsor of the homeowner expert dot com studio. So this week, we don't have a Missouri game. They have the BI week. So the way that producer Joe g unit and I will handle it is we'll make five picks as opposed to our four in addition to Missouri game and our locks, and it's five picks plus a lock. So g unit had the. Big week last week he went five and one. I went three and three producer Joe went to and four both g unit. Now I one our locks. I was on the Missouri over that covered. He was on the Panthers minus three that covered producer Joe was on Manchester United and something called wolves. And I believe that's a Selena Gomez song. That's where producer Joe moves his money and that did not cover. So if I'm not mistaken, producer Joe's humming along at a twenty five percent clip on his locks, he's twelve and twelve on the year overall, I'm eleven and twelve two and one on my locks in g unit is thirteen and eleven, but one in three on his locks bizarre staff there to be over five hundred overall. But one and three on his locks. I dunno role with the guy on his what does that NFL plays. That's my official recommendation. So he leads things off and let's talk with you. He's going little little heavy on college will start off with this one. He's on techs, getting three and a half against West Virginia gangster Pete. I will yield to you back in the studios. If there's any line changes on these as I recite them, I'm on will open up your, you're on it. Yes, sir. Is is three and a half actor. It is. Okay. So g unit has three and a half with Texas Tech, getting three and a half against West Virginia, earn Lubbock. He is on South Carolina, getting one at Kentucky, and he is on BYU plus seventeen and a half, Washington BYU winning it Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago getting seventeen and a half at Washington in the NFL were Jeevan. It rules the world. He is taking the colts minus two against the Texans us taking the buccaneers, getting three in Chicago against the bears. And so he is on three college games to NFL games and I'll deep tease his lock because we'll do the locks all at the same time. He is on the NFL for a lock. So g unit, Texas Tech plus three and a half, South Carolina plus one BYU plus seventeen, and a half the colts minus two against the Texans and the buccaneers plus three inch icago taking on the bears. There's g units, five plays normally once again, one Missouri play Missouri off this week, and then four plays before I like this week because Missouri's awful, do five and then a locks that's genius. I here is where I am for my plays this week. And let's start with this one, Arkansas? Yes, Arkansas. The same team that lost at home by I don't sound much against North Texas, their own three against the spread Texas AM. It's three in August. The spread law of averages are coming into play on this play. I am taking Arkansas. Plus twenty and a half against Texas am. I am taking Kentucky minus one against South Carolina little surprised to see g unit taking South Carolina there. I believe in Kentucky. I think I've told the story on Kelly morning after this week I saw gave the Armand tweeting out after Kentucky beat Mississippi State last week, in Lexington, something along the lines of Missouri fans already marking up the Kentucky game as a win. I would pump the brakes and I'm thinking to myself boy, if you're a Missouri fan counting, the Kentucky game is a win. We haven't been watching Kentucky play, so maybe Kentucky's doing it with smoke and mirrors, maybe Florida's really, really, really bad, and it doesn't look as good and maybe you know, Mississippi State was overrated, but I buy into Kentucky and I will take Kentucky at home against South Carolina will lay the one point and then also from the world of college football. Whereas g unit was. Taking Texas Tech plus three and a half. I'm on that game, but I'm on the over of seventy two and a half for West Virginia and Texas Tech over seventy two and a half, and I am on the Texans colts over a forty seven. I in -ticipant that to be one of those shootout kind of games. So I love the fact that that number is only forty, seven. And then I'm also going in another NFL game, which is very rare for me. I'm on the cardinals and bears over and gangster Pete. I think that's it. Thirty six. But if you wanna correct me, let me get which game is it? Arizona shouldn't be zone in the bears, Arizona in the Seahawks. Thirty nine thirty nine zone in the Seahawks thirty nine. That is my play for this week. So Arkansas plus twenty and a half against Kentucky minus winning kind of West Virginia, Texas Tech over seventy two and a half. I Texans and colts over forty seven and cardinals Seahawks over thirty nine. Those are my plays producer Joe. Let's open this up and see what weird soccer games we're going to be looking at that are minus one seventy. No soccer. That's. You know soccer this week I'm looking produce jobs. Pick pay out, isn't upset. I would've would've lost money on that. Play Syracuse is getting twenty six. Unlike g unit producer, Joe does not let me know who these people are playing. So I've got look it up myself. Syracuse playing Clemson producer. Joe is all in Syracuse. Syracuse is undefeated and they are at Clemson undefeated Clemson, and they're getting twenty six producer. Joe is on the orange. The Orangemen producer, Joe plus twenty six. Of course. There's a Georgia Georgia state or Georgia Tech play that goes without saying block that up every week, Louisiana Monroe in Georgia state are playing, they'll play in front of friends, family and the over on that one is sixty two producer. Joe is on the sixty. One. Oh, it's lowered to his favor. He's got a few lines that are incorrect. Oh, which adds two year when g unit. Now your suspicions of what goes on with producer Joe's operation. He's to Monroe Georgia state over sixty one. So he gets a point in his favor there from what he sent to me. He's on Tennessee plus thirty one and a half, but I was looking this morning. I think that number thirty and a half now, correct. That is correct. Thirty and a half a season playing Georgia. That's thirty and a half, so producer Joe's on Tennessee. That's an interesting one to me. I was considering including Georgia and my plays. I could see that being in the high fifties and Tennessee scoring something around ten producer, Joe is on Penn State, Ohio State over seventy and a half, and he is on South Carolina, Kentucky under fifty one or one and a half. That's fifty one and a half. Okay. South Carolina, Kentucky under fifty one and a half Penn State Ohio State over seventy and a half Tennessee getting thirty and a half against Georgia, Louisiana Monroe, Georgia state over sixty one and Syracuse at Clemson and Syracuse getting twenty six, your judgment and producer Joe's other place. So they are all in. 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Or you can give them a call three one four eight eight nine zero five zero three three one four eight eight. Nine zero five, zero three. Here's the thing that I think I'm going to try and drive home the most. You have a variety of elements that are going to set you up, whether that be current cash on hand savings account for a one k. investments, whatever the case might be, whatever assets you have, you have them. There's also a good chance that you don't have it all organized. And so that's one of the things that Mark Hanna is going to be able to do for you enter in the numbers, and then you can say, well, here's what I'm thinking. And then he can tell you how close you are, how well ahead of the game you are or what you need to do to get out of the game. That's what he's going to do for you. Evergreen us. He l. dot com. Three one, four, eight eight nine zero five zero three, Mark, Hanna, evergreen, wealth strategies. I've gotten to know him here over the last few months and I I don't hesitate to let our audience know about him as well, because I know he's a good guy who can help you out three one, four, eight, nine. Nine zero five zero three or online at evergreen s. t. l. dot com. Marquette evergreen wealth strategies. So are lots of the week. I'm the only person above five hundred with the locks that is that is is especially considering g units, mounting, Sunday charge. After that opening the Bockel I'm going the one in five because since the debacle of one and five for g unit he is, let's take a look, twelve and six. I mean my God, the then sixty seven percent against the number so but he's one and three hundred locks. So what does g unit have for you this week? The man is on a heater in the NFL. He goes back to the NFL and I am looking out on where the raiders stadium is being built here in Las Vegas just on the other side of the interstate out by Mandalay bay. And that is why g unit, I think because he knows where I am. That's why he's taking the raiders minus three against the Browns, the raiders certain. Really not a team getting much compliments from around the country with regard to John gruden's first few games in Oakland, they played some good teams. No question about that. They've played some teams with winning records, fell to the Rams that thing was close before the Rams Paul, the way they had a win in Denver that they blew right in the final thirty seconds. And then this past week, the surprising Lee undefeated Miami Dolphins, they were right there to win that one as well before the dolphins pulled away late. Well, this time it looks like g unit thinks they are going to get it right, even though the Browns are currently America's team with Baker Mayfield g unit doesn't see it happening, and he's got Oakland minus three against the Browns as his lack of the week, my lock of the week is a game that I've already mentioned it a game. It's already been picked and I don't like it, but sometimes it's going to happen. I really don't like it. I'm ingredient with producer Joe, but with him on a play and that is the Ohio State Penn State over. Over seventy and a half. I love this game. I think that this thing is is going to be upper eighties and and I don't know how it's not unless there's some kind of weather situation that I'm not aware of scientists state that one just being absolute. Somebody could be in the fifties type of game. And I don't see how it's not so state Penn State over seventy and a half. It's not producer Joe's lock. It's my lock, Ohio State Penn State over seventy and a half and producer Joe. He's got a lock, and there's some value to the producer, Joe Locke fade. You just have to know what the wolves are order to do that. But this week he is not on soccer is getting extra pizza. There is no soccer. He's fading k. state might be something to be said for that. I think people in -ticipant case date being one thing and so far they don't look like it. And now Texas kind of looks like a decent team after the odds start to their year by losing it Maryland. Texas three in one case state to and to it's a two thirty starts Saint Louis time and producer. Joe is on the longhorns minus eight and a half at k. stay kind of an obscure play, I think. But I'm anxious to see if it works out for producer Joe. He's got Texas minus eight and a half. So g unit on the Oakland Raiders minus three against the Browns. I am on the over of the buckeyes and Nittany lion, great weather about half great weather in it's it's at Penn State, right? Yep. Sixty seven and sunny. And and producer, Joe is on Texas minus eight and a half against state. So there it is. I am anxious to see, you know, last week I was, you know, I was. I was I was in a prime position gangster Pete to have a monster week, taking a look at the plays. I have battery against yours. That was that was a half point cover, Alabama was covering until like the final two minutes the under. I think the, I think the biggest bad beat of the week was Wisconsin Iowa the under on that. And and Wisconsin scored two late touchdowns. That thing was that that was that was in the category. We're not even sweating it. And then I look at the final score and I'm like, what in the hell happened? Wisconsin tour too late touchdown. So that one losing was on Ohio State minus thirty seven. In fairness, they got a very late touchdown to cover that number. They were up by thirty six and they got a touchdown late. So I was able to get that one. And then a play that I think was really just a square public play that I look back on with some regret because sharp money was on Michigan state. I took Indiana in Bloomington, getting five and a half, and that was that was a, that was one I regret. I don't regret the Wisconsin Iowa under. I don't regret the Alabama minus twenty six, but I do regret the Indiana play. I gotta be better than that. And then Missouri Georgia was my over sixty four and a half that was my lock. So I feel like I'm starting to get my bearings by being in Las Vegas. I think I'm close to where the sharp money isn't it via. Beyonce. Most I should have a lovely week, so ideally, all three of us start getting going here, but Jiyun units on a heater it at this point you can. I think you got somebody you can follow with g units NFL place because this guy's on a heater here with his NFL place. That's that's for certain. You didn't have any NFL and we won and that's where we have problems and ever since guys been sixty seven percent against. That's pretty good. Hey, James Carlton. James Carlton was out here in Las Vegas. I actually sat a poker table. James Carlton a couple nights ago three one, four, nine, six one forty, eight hundred online at Carlton insurance dot net, and James just has a really good thing going. And so for me to recommend James Carlton to our audience, it's really easy because James Carlton is now somebody that I contact when I'm having insurance questions, and I'm having transitions when I need to get something insure. James call is the person that I work with three one, four, nine, six, one, four, eight hundred or online at Carlton insurance dot net, whether it be for your home, whether. Before your car, whether it be for life insurance, he's the person and I'm telling you is somebody who's dealt with a variety of people in my life that there is a difference and you just don't understand it until you actually get on the phone with him and his staff, and you go, oh, this is nice. I'm getting an Email back immediately. I'm getting a phone call back and beating Italy, and these are huge investments for you, and he treats them that way. And that's why he has the staff that he has. James Carlton specialize in customer service and he specializes in saving you money, three one, four, nine, six one forty, eight hundred or online at Carlton insurance dot net. If your insurance cost an arm call James Carlton state farm as always very grateful to all of you for listening. I actually had somebody I woke, I have no idea how I did it because I usually I'll tell you something the prostate is is is a harsh mistress. And as I'm now forty two years old and I wake up in the middle of the night and have to piss. And then it's like, oh, I can't fall back asleep. So I woke up at five Las Vegas time, seven Saint Louis time, and I'm like, oh, let's go do it. I'm gonna be up at five, and it's going to be miserable. And then I was able to fall back asleep and God bless America. I'm recording a little later because of that about tell you this while I'm out here. I really like rolling with the great g. you'd on his NFL player. I think this guy has got something going. I have no idea how he's figured out the NFL, but I think he's got something I might have to go downstairs and put will action what Jiyun it's doing on his on his place. So all of our listeners, I'm glad you're starting to get some some ROI from at least one of us. Hopefully all three of us can get it going, and thank you for listening to pick six. Thank you, our sponsors, Brian, Kelly, the home loan expert dot com. Thank you to James Carlton. Thank you to Marquette, I've evergreen wealth strategies. Thank you to Johnny line off and Johnny Llandough. Chevrolet online at twenty twenty four, seven line dot com. And of course, I too. Seventy and Washington, Elizabeth, and Steph called camp of designer, heating, cooling, online design, air service dot com. As always thank you for listening to the Tim mckernan show, and other addition of pick six is in the books. This has been the tip of credit show on the inside SEAL podcast work from home loan expert, that kind of students.

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Texas politics: Twilight in Austin

The Economist: Editor's Picks

09:29 min | 1 year ago

Texas politics: Twilight in Austin

"The United States. Texas politics. Twilight in Austin. Humboldt Republicans are trying to maintain their longtime grip over the Lone Star state by focusing on bread and butter issues. The key to understanding Texas is the state capital in Austin. It is there that legislators meet only every other year to pass new laws and set the state budget. The elegant domed building is several feet taller than the capital in Washington. And that matters to Texans gun owners with a concealed carry license can enter through a separate security lane and do not have to go through the indignity of a metal detector as Luli journalists. Do the capital is built of pinkish granite, a suitable material for a red state now facing the prospect of diluted Republican influence after years of pushing to the right on social issues and immigration, Texas, Republicans have shifted their tone during the current legislative session. There's been a rush to the middle explains. Jason Szabo of Frontera. Strategy. A lobbying firm evidence of that lies in the list of priorities presented by Greg Abbott. The recently reelected Republican governor his emergency items, which he wants the legislative focus on include financing public schools, paying teachers more reforming the property tax regime funding for special education and expanding access to mental health services. How unlike the previous session of the biennial legislature in twenty seventeen back then Republicans passed a hugely controversial immigration Bill giving loin forcement offices, the right to stop people and asked to see papers confirming their citizenship. Some compare this action to proposition one eight seven an anti immigration Bill that passed in California in nineteen Ninety-four and turned Hispanics. In that state against the Republican party, another contentious legislative item that session was a bathroom Bill designed to regulate where transgender people are allowed to pay Mr. Abbott declared it a priority at the time though, ultimately it with after opposition from businesses Republicans have moved over to our issue set. And the things we had been talking about says Manny Garcia, executive director of the Texas Democratic Party culture wars is still playing out in this legislative session, including over abortion. But they are fewer Republicans are not talking about divisive social issues anymore. Says Joe Straus who served as speaker of the Texas house for a decade before stepping down in January Republicans moved to the right to win primaries against other Republicans. But now they face more challenging Jenner. Elections today. There's more fear of the November voter than there is of the primary voter, but there's fear of both says Mr. Strauss, there are several reasons for the Republicans change of tone and approach but the twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen elections are central to it in twenty sixteen. Hillary Clinton lost Texas by the smallest margin of any democrat since nineteen ninety six in twenty eighteen when Democrats picked up twelve house seats and two state Senate seats, many right wing Republicans lost what were thought to be safe districts or one by slim margins than expected this had more than a little to do with Beto a rock who was challenging Republican Ted Cruz for the US Senate, although he lost Mr. rook helped get many down ballot democratic state legislators and judge. His elected. Donald Trump is also cast a shadow overstate Republicans. The worst thing that ever happened to Texas. Republicans was the election of Donald Trump says Mark Jones of Rice University in Houston. Mr. Trump has alienated many white Republican women in Texas and has also pushed away Hispanics who account for around forty percent of the state's population long after Mr. Trump leaves office demographic change in Texas will continue to exert an influence on the fortunes of Republicans as the Hispanic population grows millennials vote in increasing numbers and people continue to move to Texas from other states, bringing their more liberal politics with them, according to a recent poll by the university of Texas and Texas Tribune more Texans say they would soon a vote for a candidate running against Mr. Trump, then re elect the president. Showing voters that they can bring about change on bread and butter issues may help Republicans fend off competition in twenty twenty legislators are broadly in agreement that the state needs to do something about property taxes which have risen considerably as Texas's economy has boomed and pushed up property values. Texas does not have a state income tax. So it relies disproportionately on property taxes to fund schools because the property taxes are very transparent Levy voters frequently complain about their high bills. Mr. Abbott has suggested capping the rate by which local governments can raise taxes at two point five percent without a special vote today that threshold is eight percent. This is probably just a starting point for negotiation. But how the state will manage to reduce property tax growth rates while doing more to. Fund, public schools equitably and boost their performance. Another legislative priority is unclear restricting the ability of local districts to raise revenue when they have so few other sources available to them could damage the state's educational prospects in the long run. The property tax issue points to a broader theme in Texas politics. The clash between state and local control in theory. Republicans tend to be in favor of light touch regulation and leaving governance and policy making to local authorities. But as cities have turned into democratic bastions and forge their own liberal, visions for the future. Republicans have changed their stance for example, last year, Austin and San Antonio passed ordinances that require employers to offer paid sick leave. But a Bill making its way through the state Senate would hamstring cities ability to set such policies much is at stake. If Republicans lose the state House, Democrats will have a stronger influence on the redistricting process. A democrat controlled house would presumably not agree. With a Republican controlled Senate plan in another twist next year's election will be the first when straight ticket voting that is taking a single box to vote for every candidate from that party on a ballot is eliminated. Thanks to efforts by Republicans in the previous legislative session candidates will have to compete more on their own merits rather than rely on party loyalty this could contribute sometime between twenty twenty and twenty twenty six to the end of the Republicans twenty year dominance of all statewide offices. According to Mr. Jones of Rice, University, Democrats, certainly banking on it this week Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US house of representatives traveled to Dallas and Austin and declared Texas ground zero for democratic efforts in twenty twenty Houston is one of three finalists cities. Applying to host the twenty twenty democratic national convention if selected it would further underscore, the Democrats strategic embrace of the state many awaiting to see with Mr. aerobic will run for president joining Houlihan Castro, a fellow Texan and former mayor of San Antonio to compete for the democratic nomination south by south west a popular convention in Austin, beginning on March eighth is set to draw other democratic nominees including Elizabeth Warren and Amy klobuchar who are hoping to drum up support those visiting Austin will find it nearly impossible to ignore that prodigious dome with its faint glow of pink.

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Ross Ramsey on Texas politics and Mike Bazar talks technology

Other Side of Texas

54:07 min | 1 year ago

Ross Ramsey on Texas politics and Mike Bazar talks technology

"With so much content whipping around out there. There's only one storytelling platform that helps you keep calm in. Stay informed, and inspired. And that's flip board flip board. Curates the world stories so you can be smarter in your work life in play. Choose from thousands of topics to personalise flip board and get the latest stories from the best publishers and experts delivered to you twenty four seven when you see stories that you want to save or share do it. We do and tap the plus button to add them to private or public collections. It's that simple used by millions of people every day as well. As other side of Texas, flip board is how people move themselves in the world forward. Get started. Now, flip board dot com. Only. History has in place only this out of texts. Justice rules case, they don't like it down love it. They say, we're all round all the subtext is all re rule. Hey, thanks for tuning in and tell friend that you hang out right here. And we're glad that you're here on the other side at Texas on your host Jay west, Texas, Leeson we kick off again broadcasting from the studios where buddy Holly became famous come racer car wash studios. Racer car wash voted Lubbock s- best wash for five years running. Stop into one of five convenient locations across the hub city. Four the best wash around guaranteed racer wash dot com. Lots and lots to get in with two day. Ross Ramsey executive editor of the text Tribune's going to join us. And we're going to talk about the money side that the legislature things that we want you to be interested in and be paying attention to the differences between the incoming house speaker. And or the new house speaker we should say now yesterday. Dennis Bonnin becoming the speaker of the Texas house in the differences between he and the old guard with the Joe Straus former speaker of the house, and how can you do what you what you're gonna hear so much about. And if you've not already is fixing school finance in Texas in how the Robin Hood, and how we take money from districts and put them into other districts, and how the whole thing's underfunded that seems to be indicative from administrators down to your local property taxes. And why you're paying so much of those property taxes? I believe. The state pays about thirty five percent. We pay fifty five percent. That's why the rates at the schools. Stay the same and the taxes go up year to year because more money is being taken out, but they have not pretending to fix that. With some extra money some five six billion dollars at least approach fixing it would get in with Ross Ramsey. Also, did you know that now you can have Alexa with your toilet? If you to drop seven grand on the toilet an immersive experiences what they're calling it all sorts of tech stuff aka televisions. And while we need to get rid of those end user agreements on all the dumb apps on our phones in different applications within applications Facebook and otherwise on the who still playing farmville, but my bizarre bizarre solution. We're go from toilets to tell visions to end service agreement. So. All that the head for you. As we roll along here on the program. But this is where I want to start just as we all predicted six months ago, just as we all predicted Beddoe Rourke for president in cliff Kingsbury to the NFL as a head coach. Some of us saw the bed thing. I remember calling it saying is he running for senators he running for president. But now it looks more and more like both of those scenarios could come about. Neither is confirmed at this point. But. Start Beddoe a roar. Who is getting this from politico getting a significant lift in early nominating states of South Carolina in Vologda with operatives in both states joining an effort to draft Rourke into the presidential campaign. Yes, it is January two thousand nine and yes, we are talking twenty twenty this as a Texas angle on it. I usually try to stay away from national politics. But this is of some intrigue Boyd Brown, a former South Carolina lawmaker and former Democratic National Committee member told politico on Monday that he will become national senior adviser to a draft Beddoe campaign. Meanwhile, the group was expected later Monday this being earlier this week to announce a hiring of political consultant as Nevada State director, David sawn-off served as communications advisor to Nevada State Democratic Party during the two thousand eighteen midterm elections. And was deputy chief of staff to somebody in California teller Jones who worked as a chief strategist for Joe Cunningham's stunning upset victory in a congressional race race last year. We'll be the group South Carolina's state director in ficials said they are interviewing strategists in Iowa and New Hampshire as well. All seems pretty serious Brown. A former member of the state representatives in South Carolina served as state chairman Martin O'Malley presidential campaign to. And sixteen so that didn't go. Well, the former Maryland governor announced last week that he will not run for president again in twenty twenty. Oh, so did go. Well, I'm sorry. I thought oh Meli lost my bed. Brown called Aurora a quote rock scar comparing him to Robert F Kennedy and his brother, Joe, if Kennedy when a once a generation politician comes along you've got to support him Brown said so it seems like the old guard Democratic Party is saying he's not prepared those of us who've watched no that he came within. Just under three points. Ted Cruz in Texas in red, Texas, and that seems to be the pedigree. That will be crazy town to watch forget the politics. I'm just talking about the political theater of Aurora running a national campaign in the sort of pop phenomenon he'll be across country be intriguing to watch and the contrast with Donald Trump. Now, listen, I wanna say this again, I'm taking some liberty to talk about national politics. Call me crazy. But I see the memes in I hear the tag lines from Donald Trump in they work pretty effectively on Elizabeth Warren, for example, a polka Lahana's the mean one Neo somebody took a Elizabeth Warren twenty twenty and said one twenty twentieth for her ethnic claims of native American origin, ethnicity. I don't think I don't think that I think it's gonna make some people on the right chuckle whenever he does that to a roar. But a lot of political consultants this is their thinking, especially with men they want somebody who middle aged women in. I'm not being deprecating here. This is the political thought if you can get middle aged women to say that somebody who wants to be my son or one of my sons friends that has a lot of staying power. So I don't think that that necessarily rings true for Elizabeth Warren at least with middle aged men or elder men. But I think that there could be a lot of sympathy in that to say, I think Aurora could could actually be one candidate against whom he could provide some Teflon, it'd be hard to put a lying Ted descript or on him or little Marco Rubio the things that you say Donald Trump during the past. I think that I. I think that he could the lock abilities. So high with Rourke that he could fin very well against those sorts of ad hominem attacks from the president in a reelection campaign. Going into twenty twenty. Now, what we also thought was true cliff Kingsbury, which we didn't. It's just crazy to think that you know, they lost a Bailer in them was out his job. And now we're talking about cliff Kingsbury in the pros this from Knicks shook NFL dot com. The saga cliff Kingsbury continues to evolve there's on the cardinals are interviewing the sought after assistant on this week for their vacant head coach position, according to NFL network insider, Ian Rappaport who tweets there is on. The cardinals are interviewing former Texas Tech coach in USC offense coordinator, cliff Kingsbury for their job and done the New York Jets had also expressed interest in Kingsbury as a head coaching candidate Rappaport. Added that gang green interviewed the coach on the jets gang. Green interviewed the coach on Monday USC Abed name gangrene USC hard Kingsbury as its offense coordinator in early December. He still employed at the school Rappaport reported there per team official, and that was a lot of the who raw earlier this week was that Kingsbury would have to resign in order to take. These other interviews kings vary spent apparently, he's not Kingsbury spent the two thousand eighteen season at Texas Tech. But he was fired after five and seven season Kingsbury, then accepted the position at USC. The former air raid Slinger served as offensive coordinator at texting during the height of Johnny Manziel mania before taking the post at Texas Tech. He went thirty five and forty and six seasons at his almo- mater. So I think some weird levellers correlations between Kingsbury. In Aurore, not just in their physical appearance, but they are new generation leaders in. It's it's quite something to see those two stories side by side, especially if you're in west Texas to go from to go from tech to the pros is not been something that we've seen before. But could very well be the case kings vary in light of the Mahomes intrigue in the in the pros could become somebody who puts out more Mahomes in Kingsbury even said. It was if he had had Mahomes for one more year, he would not have been fired from Texas Tech. But this is a little, you know, I've had some things in the past couple of weeks have shook up, and and I just whenever there's crisis. There's always opportunity, and it's in those crises, and how we respond to them that that, you know, not only is legacy made a statement made about us. But it makes the medal of who we are in. You know, my hat's off to Kingsbury that you know, as soon as that news came down. He decided that he could do other things he had enough capital in his character to know that he wasn't just stuck in one position. He could go do something else. And that's what we do here. Ravon man things don't go. Well, we'll just figure something else out and. That's kind of a west Texas ethic in really appreciate seeing that about Kingsbury. So but oh for president and Kingsbury for head coach in the NFL. See how that shakes out get in with some shaken out with Ross rinsing, my political counselor coming up and then Mike bizarre. Great show ahead for you. Stay right. Where you are. You're listening on air back about ninety seconds. Listen on podcast, just go through a quick good country music, Texas country music break in get back in right here on the other side of Texas. We'll be right back cross that old. Aw. Some. Jags. All stars up in the sky. So. Jags. Here. He is with us this week as he is each week. He is executive editor of the Texas Tribune Ross Ramsey Ross. It's all kicked off and the greatest show on earth has just down. Here we go again, commence you ready for this. Yeah. I think this one's interesting. You know, sometimes you get a session that starts with a bunch of hype and a bunch of noise and a lot of energy around whatever idea came out of a previous election. You know, last time when the legislature was here, they were the Republicans had a pretty sizable majority and read their election results as a mandate for social conservatism, and they came out with things like the bathroom, Bill and sanctuary cities. And some other things this time is a little bit more subdued, and they're and they're talking about, you know, sort of normal stuff of government budgets and property taxes and school, finance and such. Here's my let's go big picture. And then we'll get into what we're actually supposed to talk about. Here's my deal is it I think it's going to be subdued in this legislature. And then the next legislature, but once redistricting done and people begin to believe in mandates again was safe districts under. New gerrymandering or redistricting whenever you might call. It things will hype up again, it sounded about just might begin. We'll take no these things do cycle, you know, in voters. You know? I I like to say that the most fickle people in politics or voters, they flip flop all the time. And you know, you get a period where voters are saying, you know, we want you to get serious. And then you get a period where voters are saying. You know, let's do some flashy stuff. And right now, we're in a serious moment. And I think you know, I think part of this is we've got a couple of problems that are real straight up things government ought to handle whether you're a conservative or a liberal. They ought to do something to get the school finance formulas, corrected whatever you think that means and they ought to do something about property taxes. I think you know, that's one of those things where that's those are both pretty bipartisan issues and the voter discomfort with those things is pretty high right now. It's also I think, you know, on some level. I think it's a reaction to. Washington. And what's, you know, what's going on with the Trump administration and congress and how they're behaving, and I think a lot of people, you know, further down the political line here in state government or sort of like, let's just ignore. All the noise at the parents table and keep the kids table kind of civil and get some work done. Yeah. Well, let's talk about those series issues, the Texas commission on public school finance issued a new report and you've written about it. Ross. Is it possible to do school finance reform without money without new money? You have to have a lot of money to do any kind of rebalancing. So if even if you don't want to spend any more money on public education in total after you're done, then you're spending right now if you want to rebalance things and lower property taxes are lower the share that local tax payers pay and raise the share state tax payers pay your shifting tax loads. And you're saying, you know, I need the state to have this much more money to spend on education. So that the locals can spend this much less money, and it's a giant piece of the budget. And it costs a fortune to do anything like that. So even if you didn't want to increase overall spending if you wanted the state to carry more of the load that would cost a lot of money, you know, the other way to look another way to look at school finance is their re fiddling with the outdated formulas about how do how much do you spend on particular kids have an average kid, and I spend X. Mount of money on that kid over here. I've got a kid with special needs, and we need to spend a little bit more, and that's called a weighted payment, and they need to redo all that waiting, and that means that they're gonna take money away from some things we used to prioritize and put them on things that we now prioritize, and there's a, you know, pretty good political fight in there. And again, it's a lot of money being shifted and it's expensive. So when we talk about formulas Ross, I remember talking to Bob Dunkin about this one time these formulas it didn't like a cheat sheet. It has a bunch of variables in it in questions. It's literally hundreds of pages are these folks ready to really go through hundreds of pages in this legislature. You know, I it's it's easy to say, no, you know, most legislative things though are handled by relatively few people. There's one hundred ninety one people in the legislature, and you know, at any given time they're doing four or five pretty complex things writing a budget is not nothing. It's a thousand pages long. It's you know, over two hundred billion dollars. Now. That's that's kind of tricky. But there are you know, a dozen people in the legislature who are really really good at that. And the rest of the legislature just trust them to do it. And you know in the same thing's true on school finance? There are you know, a relatively small, but you know, pretty deadly. Gated number of legislators who are for all their politics and everything really good at this. And who really understand this? And you know, the people who you know, Bob Dunkin was one when he was down here. The people who get down in the weeds and handle that stuff. I think they've got the capability to do it, really. The question is whether they're two questions when you do something like this. Do you have enough money to do what you wanna do? And can you line up majorities in both the house and the Senate to do what you wanna do because there are always when you're rebalancing in particular, if I'm if I'm taking two dollars away from you and giving two dollars to me, I'm gonna be happy. And you're not, you know, aligning the politics of that are pretty tough. Let's get into do. They have enough money on the controllers end. There's new money all of a sudden in it is just assume that that. How much is it in is it assumed it's going to go towards school finance? Yeah. The second question's easy. There's no options that really apply. I mean, we have to see how the house and Senate right there. I proposed budgets, and where the leadership is. And then you start talking to members, and you know, everybody has different priorities. Some people want to spend money on mental health services. Some people want to spend money on public education, someone to spend it on property taxes. Someone to spend it on hurricane Harvey. There's a lot of competing priorities, the controller came in and said that the amount of state money available the budgets got state money in it and federal money and some other sources the amount of state money available will be up eight point one percent, which is better frankly than than people thought, it would be you know, I was talking to a lot of people who really watch this. And they were expecting smaller numbers. But he said, you know, the legislature is gonna have about nine billion dollars more to start than it had before you're going to have to subtract out what they have to. Spend to bring the current budget into line, which is going to be two or three billion dollars to catch up with Medicaid payments and things like that. And you're going to have probably five or six billion dollars to figure out what to do with, you know, that could be used for school finance that could be used for this or that and the other thing, and then there's the state's savings account that you know, the economic stabilization fund or the rainy day account is going to have fifteen point four billion dollars in it. So there's a lot of money there. The legislature has real bias for spending that money on one time expenses and not ongoing expenses. But that could be used to take care of a lot of the hurricane Harvey problems, for example, because those are just one time expenses, so they're they're in comparatively good financial position again when you take on something like property taxes and school, finance, though, you're talking about billions and billions of dollars and even when your budget looks pretty good. They're going to have to do some scratching around to find the money to do to make real significant changes in those areas saying money's used from the rainy day fund for hurricane which soons like would. It's made four about how much money have you heard a number toss around how much money the the Harvey aid needs. You know, the first number that comes out is about a billion dollars. And you know, that's that's what they're spending so far. But one of the things that hurricane Harvey did was wipe out a lot of property and a lot of businesses and homes that were the tax basis for a lot of school districts in the coastal area of Texas. And so keeping those schools open while you rebuild everything is going to be expensive on a kind of a cash flow basis. They're going to have to spend money now that they will eventually recoup later, but probably not in the same budget. So there are a lot of expenses there that they haven't totaled up yet. I've I've heard some speculation about what Harvey will cost in the six or seven billion dollar range. But the federal government's expected to pay the brunt of that. So, you know, state officials are looking at a billion or more which is a lot of money. But in the in the scheme of things, it's not as bad as it could be. Me whenever we talk about this five to six billion. How exactly when that be spent on property taxes, and we all get in a check or how does that work? What, you know, the I did, you know broadly. Speaking is that you know, if the state spends more money on public education than it spending. Now, then local school districts really will be able to lower what they spend and in so doing we'll be able to lower property taxes right now. The the state covers thirty five percent of the cost of public education and local school districts cover fifty five and a half percent. And the federal government covers the rest if you level that up just make it. So that the state and local shares are both around forty five percent. Even doing that costs about five point seven billion dollars. It's just a lot of money. So the assumption is that the rates tax rates at the school would drop with more money, right? That the schools would have to spend would be required to spend less if the state picks up. More of the load and by doing that they would be able to lower their property tax rates. But that would probably come with condition that they have to drop their rates, right? Yeah. It's tricky though, because the state constitutionally cannot Levy a property tax and that extends to it only has a certain amount of power to tell locals what to do with their property taxes. If you if you give them too much instruction, you're basically in charge of the property tax and being in charge of the property taxes against the law. So you Ricky you better do it, wink, wink. You kinda you kinda do it in a way, you know, what they've done in the past is they do it in a way where they say, look, you guys theoretically, can do whatever you want with your local property taxes. But we're only going to help you if you do this. Okay. And you know, it's it's basically worked out it. You know, it's a screwy way to pay for schools. We have a we have locally run schools that are financed in part by the state and the rules come from some combination of the state and the local schools, and you know, everything involved in it is some kind of handshake really good stuff with Ross Ramsey. I wanna ask you. We've talked about budgets this whole time. Pose safe, people aren't interested in budgets. What gives Ross, you know. Everybody hates math class. Right. It's the the budget is, you know, it's an old cliche. But the reason it's a cliche because it's true. It's the main policy document of any government. If you want to know what governments about what it's doing. You look at where it's spending its money where your, you know, settled line where your treasure is, your heart is where your heart is re your treasure is, and you can tell from looking at a budget, if you can sort through all the numbers and things what a government is. Is about and what it's doing. But because it's not just spelled out. We're going to do this. We're gonna do that. Because instead it says we're gonna spend money on this and not on that. And it's all in technical terms. And everything is just you know, so complex that, you know, most people just sort of trust them to do it and wait for you know, signs of trouble. And absent those signs of trouble just assume everything is going fine. But in fact, we all kind of react to budgets. Well, after the fact it's hard to you know, it's hard to watch them. And so because it's hard and because everybody has other things to do most Texans per, you know, frankly, most Americans don't watch the budget writing process because math is hard. And it's kind of what you're talking about school finance Ross or just a few who know how to do it in the few in. This instance, are meeting for six months every other year right now. Well, and then you. You know, you go to them. And you say, you know, what are you doing school, finance, and they start to tell you all the details, and you go, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Just fix it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's exactly how it shakes down. I think a little more attention. This time around though, a real quick. I want to ask you, what do you expect the differences in Strauss leadership in Bonn and leadership to be? You know there. There's been a lot written about their different styles or different, you know, they have different personalities. Joe Straus is kind of an introvert and Dennis bond, and is not an introvert Bonnin is a over his years in the house has proved to be really adept at sort of the way the legislature really works. He's really good at. Looking at something on the floor of the house and kind of telling how it's gonna go. He's a, you know, the term I use for it is you good mechanic. He knows how to get things done and knows how to get things through and knows how to get people lined up. And that's one of the reasons he got his speaker votes lined. We're gonna see when he names his committees. You know, some some days after you know, you get elected the the house comes in. Everybody swears in you, Alexa, speaker, and then you wait for the speaker to name who's going to be chairman of these committees who's going to be on these committees. And that's where you really see the first sort of policy imprint and I sort of you know, what we know what we expected, and now we can see some of what we got who's he going to name in charge of the budget committee, who's in charge of the committee that writes taxes, you know, who's in charge of the committee that sets the agenda for the house, you'll see all of those things and you'll begin to get a bead on Dennis bonnet as a voter in the house. He's been relatively. -servative republican. But like I say he's always in the middle of the fight. Sometimes on the side you want him on sometimes not. But he's one of those people who is always in the middle of things, and I expect we're going to see Dennis bonds hand on a lot of things as he goes forward as always he's at Ross Ramsey on Twitter every Monday Wednesday and Friday in new peace. Their new analysis piece, Texas, Tribune dot ORG. Thank you so much Ross. Thank you, buddy. We'll talk to you next week. All right. With. He threw the sound hailstones. We have with us now might bazaar the bizarre guy in Lubbock bazaars solutions get into some tech talk. What's going out there and technology? What's going, right? What's going wrong? And I don't know. We might actually have some good news this week on the things that are going, right? How are you? Mike. One good, sir. You is my Twitter safe. Your tweet. Well. I think so they're they're talking about Twitter might ahead of second data breach. 'cause they had a big one recently. But there's been a lot of news about it twitted being pretty quiet. So we'll just say yes until we know different. That doesn't sound like a good plan. Mike. Well, are you saying just assume the best? Well, sometimes, unfortunately, some of this you have to assume the best if you don't know you're going to keep using the service, right? I mean, I guess that's the that's the kicker. You can't stop using Twitter. I mean, that's us communicate and get your word out and all the other stuff. And you know, unlike say, you don't stick a bunch of personal stuff all over it. So you're probably in a pretty good spot. Do you have any New Year's resolutions? I ask you that. Because one of mine is to give people the opportunity to to allow people the opportunity to meet my worst expectation and a say that now because I don't know if I'm gonna give Twitter that opportunity or any technology. I think when it comes to people people give them the opportunity to meet my worse expectation when it comes to technology I'll trust God. And Bram cattle. Probably gonna you know, my New Year's resolution is honestly, it'd be more purposeful and more present in in whatever it is that I'm doing right? It's easy to get distracted by phones, and technology and other stuff these days. And so it's so I'm trying to be more purposeful in present in whatever moment, I am in. Wow. Just got deep there. Mike was our. Let's talk about purpose in present. We got bigger badder TV's coming out. We do. So everybody's thinking I need to go. Get my four K TV. That's the big Christmas gift and Consumer Electronics Show is going on right now in in Vegas anyways. They just releasing eight KTV's. So you're four K TV is now crap apparently, and you're going to need eight Kate TV and everybody who's resisted just has a plain Jane, ten eighty p TV guess as living in the dark ages. Well or their of the curve because they can just go get an eight k now. What's it skipped four K and go straight to eight so funny? So it'll be interesting. It wasn't even gonna look right, Mike. Like is it going to look like you're actually there? Well, I mean, it's funny 'cause I already feel like sometimes with four K and HDR and all the fancy whatever if you get the right setup. I almost feel like watching TV is looking through a window. You know, I mean if everything is the top quality. So we start talking about AJ. It's like at a certain point. I think we're gonna hit a who cares. Mark. You know? I mean, a real I really do. I mean. Great. But it's an AK TV, but can your I even tell I've not worn makeup before never have done television. But I would think eight K I wouldn't even use makeup. I would think they'll be able to see it. Well, and and the crazy part is now if you see like with or K, especially as as broadcast, even if you don't have a four K TV is the broadcast cameras and other things got better, you notice a lot more like reporters hair out of place, or you know, they'll be it's not all the time. But they certainly have to pay attention to it. And they used to be that it wasn't because you couldn't pick up individual string strands of hair, you just couldn't see. But now, you can see that guy's hair is not a place. He's got a bunch of stuff sticking everywhere. I fortunately involved. So not have that problem. Yeah. Well, you know, how much is one of those bad boys costs. How much is this gonna be crazy expensive? Right. And it depends on what it is. And everything else. LG released a two hundred nineteen inch TV that covers a whole wall. And I'm not trying to dodge. Here's Dowling than a I think that was just a four k they just went really really big. But I haven't seen a lot of the pricing any of this stuff. But I gotta think that it's going to be outrageous and was funny as my my eleven year old, and I were talking this morning briefly about not even remember how it got to it. But I still have a plasma TV and it's hanging over a fireplace. And when the first fifty inch plasma came out. I was working at best buy at the time was in college, and it was ten grant. And and that was on sale. Like, it was you know, between ten and twelve thousand dollars for a pioneer plasma. And now they've all come way down and Nike bypass many anymore. But now I was walking through Costco, the other day for twenty six hundred dollars. I think it is you can get seventy five or eighty five inch four K TV for the prices of all come way down. But I would guess that it KTV's are going to be, you know, eight nine ten thousand dollars. You know, my brother is a missionary in. I think this is we're having this conversation about rapid changing technology in some years ago. He was in west Africa in children ran up to him in said an asked is it true that in America? You throw your TV's into the ocean in Michael was really startled public question. But as he began to think about it. He was thinking about the big tube televisions in how they aren't used anymore in these kids have probably seen pictures of discarded and put on curbs and everything else that hell to them that would seem extremely wasteful to us. It's we gotta get with the technology. Yeah. It's lived its purpose. So out the door goes the craziest thing I have seen you. And I think is the coolest feature to come out. LG is now releasing you will soon soon as you know, air quotes here. I don't know what soon as be able to buy a roll lable screen. And so what they're talking about is like you could have a box on your mantle and hit a button, and your TV would unroll out of the box or have it at the foot of your bed or whatever. So looked like a piece of furniture that you hit a button on the TV unrolls out of it because it can roll it doesn't have to be some giant piece of furniture. I think that'd be kinda cool and allow people to hide TV's and do some stuff, you know, like some projector action without the projector. So let's get into the really cool stuff. When technology can start to stink. Also, there's new new toilets that have Alexei in them. Yeah. But Koehler has released a new toilet that they're calling a fully immersive experience, which I think is just a bad way to reference a toilet. But it's colours new me, and you and I to dot O intelligent toilet. And it is going to have ambient lighting voice commands and Alexa, built-in way. It's new me. How do you smell it? And u m I k. And. Yeah. And so you'll be able to guess sit on your toilet. And maybe put a TV in there. And then you could tell Alexa to see ring doorbell ring released a new people doorbell, which is kinda cool little when people knock it'll turn itself on. It's totally wireless and that that'll be cool tonight. You can sit on your toilet and has maybe a TV where your mirror is or something. And and ask your toilet to tell your TV to show you who's at the front door. I mean, I have on my phone right now, though. But you got to touch it. You'll be able to talk to your TV knocked your toilet. They don't want to be touching a bunch of things. So yes, you know, the only thing I could think and maybe they'll do a shower head or something eventually, but you know, you have your best ideas when you're on the throne thinking her in the shower now, you just, you know, hey, Alexa, making note and. Record your greatest thoughts. I guess. Well, we're greatest thoughts. But also be recorded. I mean on the toilet in the shower. But let's lead it at the toilet. You know, we all know that Amazon's listening so is this is this like the beginning tier job at Amazon that you're on toilet duty. You're listening on. It's all supposed to be a I. But what's interesting to me about it is, you know, Amazon has to listen to all the time. Right. I mean that's same with Google same. But any of these smart home appliances that you can talk to because I have to listen for the keyword, and they've already been legal cases, where police have tried to get recordings. There was a guy that was murdered in his house. He had an Alexa, and there was a big law lawsuit because Amazon didn't want to give up the data. Right. They wanna protect the data not because they don't want to help solve crime. But because they have a reputation to try to keep of we will protect your data. You know, when all costs kind of thing because people are starting to want that more and more. So it's interesting to me is is you start to put these devices in your toilet. And in your bathroom. You literally have nowhere now that you will have privacy because it could be recorded and in the worry to me is more hackers right? What happens if a hacker gets connected to that device, and they can hear what's going. On on. And I have no Mashal secrets, but you start talking about, you know, there could be I don't know. They've put a smart toilet in defense contractors house, and that guy's chatting them Chinese connec, it, you know, I mean, it sounds far fetched, but that's gonna be mission impossible twenty seven, you know, they're gonna hack the smart toilet to to figure out how to infiltrate the Bank vault. I mean just is on thinking about it. We've got the election in the kitchen and journey. Not had an argument the other night in L that would make for a heck of a YouTube viral. I mean, it wasn't of much consequence with the magin. An argument of consequence being leaked could some problems even even taken out of context. And then you could use it in destructive, you know, smear campaigns for public office. Whatever I mean, it get those recorded. That's it and the more you put it out. The scary part is and we'll just touch on as quickly is they're doing these things called deep fakes anybody wants to Google deuce more. Maybe. We'll talk about it next week or something, but deep fakes they can take snippets of your voice, and then they can train AI, and it can sound like you and they're doing the same thing with movies. So like they did one where they took the new haunt solo movie and they put Harrison Ford useful face over. And so it's like an eight minute video this guy made retook all these scenes, and instead of the current actor for the soul movie. I forget his name. It's Harrison Ford a younger Harrison Ford pasted over the top of them. And you'd be hard pressed to know that it wasn't real. Deep fate Bill. Good takes here with Mike bazaar bizarre solutions. So we get onto all these devices and we download these apps in their free, but nothing's free. So what's going on with these in service agreements? Yeah. So the Weather Channel is currently getting sued by Los Angeles County because they say Los Angeles County says that they Weather Channel misrepresented, essentially what data they were taking and what they were doing with it. So they were profiting off customers data specifically for the Weather Channel, it was geo location data now I haven't seen all the details. Because it's just kind of you know, overview articles that have seen at this point. But it brings to me the whole. The just the whole conversation around privacy. And how many times have you installed an application it pops up an end user agreement, and they even make you scroll to the end now to hit. Okay. So you pretend to read it, but you scroll through the ten thousand pages or ten thousand words, or whatever it is in who'd accepted you move on. They literally could be asking for your first point child, and he would have a clue and and not that even if you did sit down and read all user license agreements that sillage legal jargon, unless you're a lawyer. You probably don't even make sense of it. So the concern that I say that, you know, normal people can do is one don't use apps or keep apps that you're not using. So if you don't need the app, don't install it just because and and what's interesting is we got our kids ipads for Christmas there on a great sales. We got our two oldest, ipads and have used the parental controls. We've talked about to lock it down. And so every time they want install it up. I get an alert, and I look at some of the games they want to install it. I'm like, why do you wanna play this game this? I mean, it has a ton of reviews. It seems like a legitimate game. You gotta tell me why before I'm gonna let you install it. Will it looks neater? I wanna see what it's about. And you know, and there's a part of me. It's like, no, you just you don't need that app. And so what I would say is make everybody's New Year's resolution. You know, something to do in January because an easy thing is in Facebook. You can go in and they have a privacy section that you can go check. It's like a privacy checkup run through that make sure your privacy settings. Right. Make sure everything's is private is you'd need to be obviously, if you do stuff like you do where you're public. You're going to have a lot more public posts than somebody who doesn't. But make sure you're checking that you can go through your apps that have connected to Facebook. And if you aren't using those old apps like you don't play farmville anymore. You played it twelve years ago when it was cool the good. Go. Go disconnected. Right. But that's the problem is that all these people have played these apps and whether it's an app on your cell phone app. Connected to Facebook app on your computer, and a tablet those things have the rights that you've given them, and they will continue to collect the day that even if you're not using them. And so if you're not using the Weather Channel app, you moved on and use, you know, channel twenty eight or channel Levin's weather app, or whatever. Then get rid of the Weather Channel app. Right. You know? And there's no reason to have it if you don't use it. And if you use it great this fine, but go check the security settings. You know, there's things you can do like on iphone specifically, I think you could do an Android. I haven't checked recently. But you can go set it where like the American Airlines app is is one end weather app. I do this as well. I use weather underground. But I go in and specifically set it and say, you can only use my location when I'm in the app, otherwise, you don't need to know where I'm at. And so the American Airlines have is really great because I can open it up in DFW, and it pops up my location. You're right here. Here's your date. Here's food. Here's whatever. But it doesn't need to know what I'm doing around town in Lubbock or if I'm not traveling or whatever, I don't I don't care. And so that's the kind of stuff that I say it's a good to go do that privacy checkup ago, remove all that and and again, just pay attention. I installed a flashlight app once or almost it and it asked for my location data, and I was like, no why does the flashlight app need to know anything on these knows how to turn LED on and off on and on your phone though. Does your phone? No your location or does Google. No, you're loc- because everything when abrupt pull up Google and start trying to search something something locally thinks that I'm in Dallas because I've won't let it no my location. Yeah. So if you have that don't know my location, and that it can't use your location. It will actually try to pick up your location based off of your internet provider based on searches and history that you've had may do it off locations. Sometimes like when you're connected to suddenly, I don't know if anybody ever has done this research for something locally, and it gives you results in Taiwan because suddenly corporate offices over in Tyler or Saint Louis, and so it actually Google thinks you're coming out and Tyler because the way you connected that one time it doesn't happen all the time. But occasionally I'll see that. And it's probably just the way that the the data got routed that one request. And so again, it's it to me. It's it's it's the fine line. There's certain things that are more useful when they have more data about right? And so you're willing to give that up because you open up your search terms or automatically local for you. And it's more relevant, and, and that's helpful. But there's always a trade-off. They're all making money. You are the product in. You are the you know, the what they're they're selling everybody else. So the more data you give to them the more data. They have the more one you can pitch. You lose that data. They could leak it hackers or whatever else could happen, or it's just, you know, data breaches, no thing or having a more and more. And you just want to be careful about it. It's the same reason. I don't save my credit card information on any websites. If I don't have to you know, they wanna save it because it's easy. But if my credit card is there, and they get hacked it gets lost. It's less convenient for me to have to type it in every time. I go to that website to buy something. But I know that they aren't saving my credit card information. And so I'd rather have that slight inconvenience then have a news article that says, you know, whatever website got hacked. And then I roll my eyes and go crap. I gotta go get credit card. Well. Well in better never give your credit card number while you're on the toilet. Because you're going to have one of those lilies. That's I don't know. If I will it's real it's the new me toilet goes for seven grand nine if you wanted and black. So I I don't think I'm ever going to have seven thousand dollar toilet. I've never even seen like toilet. I haven't either I with Devon thousand dollar toilet. And I think I've been really content life not sitting on a seven thousand dollar toilet. I'm sure that comes with like purified water filters. So that doesn't hard the hard water fluoride and everything man. He is Mike. Bizarre things with Mike bazaar televisions? Toilets and get rid of those old apps might bizarre. Thank you. Thanks, sir. Appreciate it again where they can reach you. Yes. So bizarre solutions. It's bizarre solutions dot com. Be as E A R or give us a holler at eight o six eight five three seven seven five seven. He's the tech guy. He keeps us all we know the demos. And we know a lot of folks are interested in tech. And that's why we take time and talk with Mike czar about it. We'll talk to you next week there, buddy. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it stick right with this coming up a few notes to close out this edition of other side be back about two minutes from now. Yes. All those bills all the stuff. You don't want to throw in the trash. He hadn't shredded. You just wanted to get rid of it. Take it down there. Lubbock foul room. Tell him. We said how to here on the other side at Texas. We've had some great conversations over the past couple of weeks. You can find those anywhere. You can find podcast just go. Search other side of Texas, and you can listen to Ted Mitchell last week a really candid interview with the text take chancellor Lubbock county judge Curtis perish. And then even into this week. We've had Garza county judge Lee Norman, John Gibson and democratic chairman Lubbock county democratic chairman in a good solid conversation yesterday. If you've got stories or interviews that you think that we need to do things to look into it. You think would be other side of Texas worthy. Folks that we need to be talking to. Jay at other side of Texas dot com. That's J A Y at other side of Texas dot com. And that's really the bulk of the program is on when again with interesting people talking about things that matter is you think about where you live in about your place. And if you've got some of those folks, I'd love to have some suggestions from you always looking for more folks to be a part of the conversation. So I'm headed to Austin about to peel off in head out to Austin and go speak at a conference with Ross Ramsey in Harvey chrome bird crop, recon bugger Berg of the corm report. And Ross Ramsey Texas Tribune going to be talking about the governor's. Well, we're gonna be talking about urban counties in unbecoming about urban from a rural perspective Reuven is judge perish has referred to Lubbock county, not rural not urban. But certainly rules. Outside of it. No candle guard gates around the city of Lubbock end. We'll have more to talk about. I think one point of conversation is going to be a proposal that if taxes go up more than two point five percent. There has to be triggers a rollback election in which county city, whatever entity has to have a rollback rate election in there's lots of ins and announced to that people who support it say voters ought to vote and the people who don't say that's not enough margin. As you heard a judge Norman say there are times in which commodities raise rise and fall in. They need more of a margin by trusted elected officials to make those decisions than just a two point five. It's an urban problem. Many rural say so solve it in a urban way in. It'd be interesting to see. How that bears out here in the next legislature? Glad to be a part of that conversation coming up the rest of this week. You've got we're gonna be talking got my buddy Brandon Darby on in. We're gonna be talking about some quite frankly, populism in populous takes on a Konami and that Tucker Carlson piece. It's gone viral. Will have plenty to say about that coming up in the episodes ahead. So when till then gonna get home gotta get home, a great, great family, above average dinner waiting for me in hope that the same is true for you as well. Ravon buddies Ravon, we'll see you next time right here on the other side. It's really. 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Special Edition: Texas Speaker of the House with EXCLUSIVE interviews

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Special Edition: Texas Speaker of the House with EXCLUSIVE interviews

"It was threes and cold and Dallas when I made my getaway. I ran a cold front when I gave my truck. Barron down thirty five with one thousand on my mind. Forget the race minden open space de that city. Well, hey there. Howdy. Hey, we talk about a lot of things we've taken you through regular gate. Through regent gate. And now, we turn our attention to the Texas legislature a whole program today about speaker of the house, if you're listening and other sides at Texas rural representation matters in the state that's becoming his last Tuesday showed more suburban drawn whether that be democratic or Republican and lots of times. I say this generally, but not all the way folks may not care about their place. In a suburban context. Maybe it's a cold sac that they live in for fifteen years in all they're concerned about is not necessarily the survival their place, or you know, there's independent school district, but their property taxes, and we have more broader concerns, and who the speaker of the house is in Texas matters a lot in that regard. So we're going to focus this program on the speaker of the house glad that you're with us right here on the other side. I'm your host Jay west Texas Leeson raven on from the studios were buddy Holly became famous the racer car wash studios voted Lubbock s- best wash for five years running has been racer car wash. Stop into one of five convenient locations across this. Hub city for the best wash around guaranteed racer wash dot com. Your thoughts on the text lines. We roll along eight zero six seven four five fifty eight hundred corn report editor Scott Braddock will be in with us. Lots of developing news throughout the weekend. And then into today again the week after the midterms win twelve house seats in a hundred and fifty member house switched over to Democrats lots of urgency throughout the weekend for price thought to be. A considerable for lack of a better word a significant figure in the Texas speaker of the house race withdraws on Sunday. And we've got four price in exclusive interview about half an hour worth of four price. They're out of Amarillo. And I think those of you who are listening west about thirty five especially north of I twenty west of thirty five will be interested to hear what four price has to say a candidate for price. Also, Scott Braddock of the corn report coming up here in about seven minutes from now, here's where we stand. Don't reiterate this because I get listeners who send me emails and ask me questions because they don't follow. What's going on in Texas? You've got a hundred and fifty member house, and you don't elect a speaker popularly. None of us cast a ballot for speaker. We may cast a ballot for someone who could become speaker. But that speaker is elected from within the house itself. And so as it stands today after last Tuesday, you have eighty three Republicans seventy three Democrats and today. Denis bonnin. Was had had a press conference. He's a Republican out of Angleton. In folks. Listen, I'm still on the fence. I right before the program. If you're listening live, we started a couple minutes late because I was on the phone with a very credible source who said that John Sharp was walking out a Dennis bonded office today. The who the presumably speaker of the house, Texas AM chancellor, John Sharp was walking out of dentist bonds office today about noon clock. He had a presser today at three o'clock that John Sharp. In. So there's lots of mixed you you'll hear for price. He'll he'll make an argument in something that we pre recorded about an hour and a half ago say that Dennis bond is completely open to vet school. Of course. No deals can be made. That's illegal. But his indication was that Bonnin would go with the house on it nod obstruct him as a matter of fact, help people who were advocating for the vet school so much to get into. But rather than me tell you about Bonnin, we're sitting here in two thousand eighteen how about you listen to Dennis Bonnin out of Angleton. This was his press conference today. We're gonna bring you that audio as cues up here. Here's Bonnin walking to the podium in a believe you or about. Out to hear shaken hands. Dennis bond. Here. It is. We're here to let you know, the speakers Rice's over in the Texas house is ready to go to work. I'm very proud. We're gonna release here in a moment. One hundred nine names of my colleagues that have signed on to support me to be speaker. Don't worry about that number one hundred nine though, all one hundred and forty nine under other members are going to be a part of this house whether their name is on the list today or not is unimportant. We're going to be the house. When the house stands together. It does great things in this Texas house is going to do great things. We stand ready to work with the governor. And of course, we want to work with our friends and partners in the Senate and the Lieutenant governor. So with that we will keep it brief this is simply the beginning. But I'm honored to have the members that are here with me today. This was done on incredibly short notice. And they're showing up means a lot, but we're excited to bring the house together to be unified and to do good work for the people of taxes. I'll take one or two questions, and then we're going to move on. This is Scott Braddock. I'm glad you would ask me that. You didn't ask me that before you printed that I said, I wouldn't. But I made it very clear. Hold on to clarify. What Braddock had just asked him. And you'll hear from Bradburn just moment this where we'll pick up with him bonding his been on this side or that side. Lots of contrasting reports. Whether or not Democrats would get committee chairs in Bonnin context swipe at Braddock their bonding kind of firebrand in. That's what a lot of people have concerns with bonding about just giving you the news views and issues here that matter here's the rest of bonds response on the thirty first of October that I will honor the tradition of the house of being a bipartisan chamber, and I'm committed to continuing that legacy of greatness that makes the Texas house stand out from other legislative bodies around the country. There's one other question. Yes, sir. The number one priority will be decided by the members. But having talked to numerous members I can guarantee you that priority is school finance. It is time Texas took on the challenge of fixing our broken school finance system in the Texas house will be leading with all of us to get that done. Thank you very much. We're going to release the list of the hundred nine members and we look forward to working with y'all moving forward. Thank you. So there's Guinness bonnet and here you, and I are we're going to bring you eight listen the most listened to media platform in west, Texas. Glad that you're rolling along with us. Whether that's live or on the podcast gonna go make a little bit of money here. Get back in with Scott Braddock as we give you exclusive coverage of the speakers race. Of course, as I mentioned earlier will have four price in after Scott Braddock stick right with us here on AM five eighty loving. On. Each and every week. We have our friends Scott Braddock of the corm report right here on the program. And is there not a better, Tom? I don't think I've looked forward to when your segments more than I do right now. Scott Radic, thanks for coming on as always brag on Texas. Absolutely. Of course. I always look forward to it. I look forward to it of you know, immensely every week. No matter what the topic is to see, you know. Well, but today, this is the speaker addition. Other son at Texas. We just play we we make our chat and we played the audio. I'm told in four prices following you in a prerecorded interview. We did can't earlier today. Four will make the case for listeners. He doesn't make the case. I asked him monitor standing was before he in you guys corn report, broke it. I believe yesterday that as of yesterday what about one or two PM central standard time? Bonn, Dennis spun and head some forty votes today. He announce that he's pledges today a hundred in nine we just listen to the audio. Just talk us through the last twenty four hours Scott Browning been very interesting to watch a couple of the candidates for house speaker dropout including Phil king and four price and then tan Parker earlier today king and Weatherford in Tampa. Of DFW lower amount in up in Denton county. All right, and they had been running for speaker for quite some time. Phil king was one of those was running for speaker not long after Joe Straus at announced his retirement about a year ago. And all of a sudden there was this momentum. There was a meeting of some Texas house members a couple of weeks ago in which we had reported there were somewhere between thirty and forty Republican members who were trying to figure out who they would support for house speaker the name that emerged from that meeting was Representative Dennis bond and the Republican from Angleton he was not in attendance at that meeting. That's our understanding, but it is worth noting that Bonnin on the last campaign finance reports was giving money to Texas house members at about the same rate as other announced speaker candidates that was before he has announced nothing wrong with that. Of course, it's all disclosed. But it it tells you that it sounds a lot of folks around here that he was. Thinking about running for speaker long before he actually announced and it was not the case that some Republican members simply got together and asked him to run. That's the way it was portrayed that they had asked him to run. And then he said that he would pray about it. And then he decided he would run it doesn't look that way. But regardless he came out today said he had one hundred and nine colleagues who have pledged to support his bid to preside over the lower chamber in twenty nineteen when you say you hear that you played audio. I assume you that you mean, you were playing audio from his press conference earlier today about yeah, he comforts shirt. He hits it. And it was a short press conference. There were two questions. One of them was asked by myself. We'll get to that. And just second. What he had said was that look there's just forget the number one hundred and nine he said don't worry about that. I have one hundred and nine pledges, but the truth is all the other one hundred forty nine members of the house, you know, besides himself that they are all going to be part of the house, whether they're Republicans or Democrats. He also said that he was going to keep a commitment to bipartisanship as a legacy of greatness that makes the Texas house stand out from other legislative bodies around the country. That was his quote the question that I asked him was whether or not he would commit to appointing Democrats too key committees, which has been a tradition in the Texas house, which is also something that makes the Texas legislature stand out from other legislative bodies around the country, and he in his answer to me. He did not say yes, or no he didn't say for sure he was going to appoint Democrats to committees. Although he did say that he is committed to keeping the Texas house, basically be a bipartisan institution he says. That's a little bit makes. Okay. Scott Brad against Scott Braddock on Twitter. Yes, sir. Tell me what prompted your question though, because. I'm gonna get into the firebrand nature of. No, no question of didn't ask for a reason home hold on. Let's let's go to Y U S that question. Yes her. So the reason I asked that question is because members of the Texas legislature have been telling us at Korn report that they have heard a couple of different things about that that that for some members they have heard from Bonn and from his allies. But there would be no Democrats who would be appointed to chairmanships. And then there are others who have said the exact opposite. So we simply wanted to have him on the record about that key question. And you know, it's also interesting that after chairman and said he was going to release one hundred nine commitments that speaker Joe Straus did say that he also supports bonds candidacy now, and so it will be interesting to see what the folks at empower Texans have to say about his candidacy now that Strauss's. Wishing support. Yeah. That diminishing influence, I'm gonna to ask you. Let's let's go off the beaten path. He bring up you know, Howard Texans. This is how I characterize empower Texans to a local audience. Now, the the spokesperson for empowered Texan slandered. Bob, Duncan this is when you heard that Bob Dunkin good local reference financial descr that he was that what we heard in the beginning. Was that Bob Duncan was ousted by the board? Regents that takes tech because he misappropriated phones or done something. She heard that was Michael Quinn Sullivan. The yester- hoax person for Boston Tim, Don who heads up in power Texans. What's way? Do they have at this point? Do you think that they're concerned? I think that they're sway is in flux. It's not clear, you know, there were chief organizing principle for years has been opposition to Joe Straus as speaker that is what the financial funders of of empowered sites, including Tim done and the Wilkes brothers from Cisco Texas that's been their main main objective or their main objective has been to get rid of Joe Straus, Strauss left on his own terms. And so now you have someone coming in who does have the backing of Strauss. Although we should say in fairness that did not appear that Joe Straus was trying to help on and round up members for his candidacy. It looked like Strauss. I came on board after the the after the list of one hundred nine folks have been released read about the same time. So I if so so as far as where they're going to be on the bombing candidacy, they have not really taken a strong position. In one way or another, and maybe they will in the in the near future here. Yes. Scott Braddock with us here. We wanted to queue up the video or the audio that runs his video on the computer here and the other side studios, but U s question of Bonnin in Bonnin replied, I think Curtly would be a good a good to. Yes. I wish that you had consulted me or talk to me before you ran that piece, but people will hear that in its bond and taking on the press. Yes, there's a lot of concern about well on one hand you got a guy in Bonin din. This phone who a lot of people think will be good formidable force to the Lieutenant governor. However, the Texas house speaker's role is to represent the chamber. Into consider bills within the chamber in how they move through counters appropriations this set and the other. His response to you. I think demonstrated in like, I don't want to overplay it. I think this was like fifteen percent bonding like gone and can get really fired up. There are concerns that Bonn could really lose his cool within the hundred forty day legislature. What do you make of that? There are some questions about chairman bonds temperament. Yes, he he was a little Kurt with me. And that's not a problem. I can take it and I've known Dennis for years. So like you said that's Dennis bond ended about fifteen or twenty percents. And maybe not even that, you know, he he can't get very fired up in the past. He was part of the speaker Straus team. And as you know, as part of the team one of his jobs was to be the attack dog when it came to the Texas Senate, particularly when various pieces of tax legislation being debated between the two chambers. You know, look, I mean Democrats picked up seats in the Texas house in the Texas Senate in last week. So. Action but Republicans maintain majority's and fairly comfortable majorities in both chambers. And so the reality is that it's not really, and this is always the case j Leeson when we get down to it. When we get down to the business of Texas. You know, since Republicans have been in charge, and by the way, it was also true. When Democrats ran both chambers of the Texas legislature, the real conflicts begin to be about the house versus the Senate, the Lieutenant governor versus the speaker, and you know, when those don't agree on something a lot of times, the governor who would step in a governor Perry was very strong in that role. Governor Abbott has not been as strong in that role of sort of refereeing the action between the two chambers. And like you've got to very strong willed people in Jenin governor, Patrick and potentially as the speaker candidates Dennis bond. It'd be does actually take the chamber the sparks could definitely fly. We'll see you say if I've talked to people today who say this is a done deal is it. If or is it win. Well, it's about fifty seven days until they actually vote for speaker. I've been talking with some folks this afternoon about speakers races in the past. And for decades. This is the case for decades. No one has seen a speaker's race be declared over by so many people, you know, in November in early November. And so there is a ways to go here. The house members could could obviously change their minds. But right now Dennis bond is on track to be the next speaker of the house. I think that's beard who is who who were still candidates on the Republican side. Who who do we have left? Well, Phil king dropped out. And for the price dropped out. Travis Clark dropped out this afternoon. Are we left with anybody? Where's Darwin Darby, drew Darby has said to be out of the out of the running? I I think for the most part he we had reported earlier in the day just to be clear about chairman Darby was that our sources were telling us that he had a told the folks of those house members who heads committed their votes to him that he said they were free to do whatever they would like to do. So it does seem that his candidacy is over as well. Okay. Again effort on that. But I'm gonna ask you this question. And now, we're getting into political weeds. The Republican caucus decided just after the session right on the heels of the session that the Knicks speaker Ryan after Joe Strauss's announcement that didn't expect her would be elected from the of course, there is no caucus jail. Right. I mean, if somebody defied the caucus they have to vote on this on the floor. But at the caucus would decide the Republican caucus would decide who the speaker was in. I've heard from members today in limb give you a couple of things that they're Friday. Secret meeting friends are Sunday. There was a Sunday Sunday secret meeting was run by the very folks who put forward the the rule in here. Let me being candid drew Springer dozen boroughs of Frank no longer with us Ron SIMS. Means a couple of others and boroughs. I don't know if he's the caucus chair, maybe he's acting caucus chair put forward of rule that we were going to have the next speaker run out of the caucus. But then they did when I've heard referred to today is an indoor on the interim their own rules. They defied their own rules and came up with bonding who had not made the pledge that's to be at that point. Exactly in that. I've heard terms like this fruit of poisonous tree is not admissible in court, but this is going to bear all sorts of bear bed fruit down the road. And also another analogy I heard today that I really appreciated is. If you're charged was keeping the hin house. You should not be looking up chicken recipes in. Meantime, a lot of Rinker within the house. I would think. Yeah. About how this process was run a process. It wasn't a process, but it's still a process. I think there's a lot of grumbling. Look the reality of what had been put in place for the Republican caucus was not that they were going to elect a speaker within the caucus. I think that's a narrative that is out there that is is it's it's up there for a reason because there's never been a process set up by the caucus before to formally endorse a candidate. But what the caucus is still on track to do is endorse. A candidate for speaker. It looks now like that is likely Dennis Bonnin. But yes, all of this action that we've seen up until today comes before the scheduled meeting on December first of the Texas House Republican caucus to get together and go through their process to endorse a candidate for speaker of the Texas house. There's a lot of chatter in Austin today that that has now. Been rendered irrelevant. Although we'll continue to monitor the situation and see whether that is really the case. Like, I say there are roughly fifty seven days to go before the entire body actually votes on who the next speaker is going to be so things still could change. But I do think it's fair to say right now that bonding is on track. Yeah. Last one to you hear Brandon can loose. You've got her further. Details it listeners need to know. I'm told that around noon today is what a lead within the program around noon. A lot of the conversation. Here's vet school in. Let me clarify this again for listeners in for you. I think that there's a fair debate to be had about the vet school in in this the necessity of another public institutes of higher education in Texas providing event school, albeit a large animal that school in Amarillo. Then is I think I think even Bob Dunkin would concede that that was a factor the largest factor in his housing for Texas Tech is he's big issue is the grounds up here. Okay in. That's why I bring this forward. I'm I'm not here pounding on the drum for the vet school, but just covering it. One kind of then you have to say the vet schools considerable factor in the region right now. Yes in I'll talk with four price about that coming up. But I think it is Morton. Scott Graddick that I'm told that it noon today ahead around noon, John Sharp, walked out of Dennis Vons office in a grin in now that might have been employed nickel grin or gratifying grin or whatever. It might have been what what say you Scott Braddock on Dennis bond in Texas M in what's become this huge issue here in west Texas in Upper West Texas on the vet school, or like, I'm not gonna speculate about John sharps brand. It's a it's it's a it's a good question. I'm not saying that it's not. But, but I do know that John, Sharp and bond and have been friends for a long time. And so I went on and and he had a conversation about him a potentially being I'll try to be that big of the house. I'm sure that that was a very positive conversation. I think that folks from all around the state need to be on guard about what the. Priorities are going to be of the Texas legislature, considering this fact, Senate governor, the speaker if it is done spun and the governor all three of the governor speaker and Lieutenant governor would all be from the Houston area. They would all be basically from Houston, and that's not a partisan thing. It's not an ideological thing. It's just a question of what does that mean? For folks in Lubbock. What does that mean for folks in DFW, San Antonio, east, Texas, west, Texas, etc? It's it is a consideration. You know in the past. It's been the case that the Lieutenant governor, and the speaker, and the and the governor would all be from different regions of the state and not necessarily by design. But it it is a factor in the way that things are prioritized around here. You know, I'm told right now that. Drew Darby has withdrawn has sent word oaks of encouragement to din, the spun and from good to get clarity on that very reliable source. But here I think that what's important is that folks are learning for the first time that the speaker of the house, the Lieutenant governor the governor the big three could from the same region. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and look, you know, me I mean, Houston guy. But I think it's it's worth pointing that fact out, you know, in the past, you know, just in the last session. It was the case that the speaker and the governor Lieutenant governor would not all from the same city. You know, Joe Straus from San Antonio instead. So in in different parts of the state have had their chance at having the speaker's office be occupied by somebody from those parts of the state. And so may now may not all be big Houston game here. We'll see. Well, what might be my favorite contribution by you? Scott brenick editor of the corner report. It Scott Braddock on Twitter. This is this has been your right on top of it. We appreciate you chum. Then let us know what's going on at this very hour down there in in the capital. What keep it covered for you? Jay. Thank you know. Right. We'll talk to you next week, Scott Braddock foam along. Great follow keeps us informed in the go-to quickey break. You don't wanna miss four price out of MURILLO on his way to an event. It Texas ain't him. Hey, just going to hear it here. First from for Bryce, keep it. Locked in be right back. Hey, did a pre record with four price out of him or widely? I mean, here's the deal. I say this often, but on a continuum of how much disdain or like a politician of. Here's what four prices reputation is. It's hard not to like four to. I really like four he defies a lot of. Today's disdain for politicians guy that a lot of people like even if they disagree with him. He is four price on the Morello. Appreciate four price making time to come with us here on other son at Texas. I did get an Email this weekend about. Why so many emerald politicians in all say this they outside of John Fru low. If you wanna talk about other sons of Texas in make it a product that people in North Texas in east, Texas in south, Texas, you gonna talk to kill soldier, you gotta talk to Jones Smith, you gotta talk to Joan furlough because excuse me, four price. Yeah. You gotta talk to those guys because they moved the needles in Texas politics in four price bowed out on Sunday. And I think a lot of people would say turn the speakers race in Dennis bondings favor. You can hear him on that matter and more right now with four price on the line. With us is state Representative chairman out of the eighty seventh district Texas house district state Representative four price out of Amarillo for price. How are you? I'm doing. Well. Jay, how are you? Fair to Midland. I could do without all of its north wind blew in the from your Amarillo down here without any precipitation. But the cotton farmers appreciate it. And I'm sure so here's the deal for here's where I'm going to start on. Pre-taped show with Brian Mudd came back ABC affiliate here in Lubbock on Friday in which in aired on Sunday morning at eleven thirty four price in I'm going to start here on the program. I questioned the wisdom of some in west Texas, backing a state Representative out of Angleton down on the coast one who I've been told by your peers some of your peers that is against a vet school in then not within an hour of that program, airing the tech start flooding in the the tweet start flooding in that you have bowed out of the speakers race in have Becht that state Representative out of Angleton Dennis bond until this what happen for price. The well first of all J, thanks for having me on your show. And thank you for the time. The speakers raised process was inside full. It was interesting. Learn learn to great deal about my colleagues and their districts, and really it's an experience that I I thought was was well worth the effort, even though my my big came up short as of you know, this this past weekend talking to this orders that I have colleagues mine in the house and really taking a look at the race overall trying to take some emotion out of it. And look at the the landscape is objectively as possible, I came to the conclusion, and in many of the folks that support me came to the conclusion that chairman him was was in the best position to work with us to to unify the party in the house and build a broad coalition of of members from all over the state, you know, and. Physician himself to to be a leader in a position of strength. What they brought basis support in the body, and we felt like that was really important in in. So, you know, coming to that conclusion I had multiple conversations with with Dennis in. And we we talked about you know, what that looked like for both of us, and you know, stuff decision to make but he's a very capable leader. I don't believe he's against the school. Certainly talk to him about issues important to the region in the entire state and remain very confident with his vision for the house and issue. She wants to prioritize the next session. And as you know, since that point in time, I guess you released his list of one hundred nine names today that support his candidacy and that includes members from rural Texas urban Texas every region of the state, and I think every member of our our. Paint and on in south plains delegation. So I think it's it's an exciting time for us in the house. This is a fluid situation it all comes together and and does over quickly. And you know, we still have to go through the caucus vote on December first in the actual floor vote on January eight, but I fully expect for chairman bonds be four price with us. Now, the Merill mini. I mean, the Amarillo globe news is done the series on how you could be the speaker of the house eventually in the house and went to ask you a couple of follow ups with what you just laid out untold that since you're since you're nounce -ment on Sunday four bone, and that you were going to go out, and you were going to back bone and that the number was somewhere between. Forty to fifty on bonds list since then it's jumped up to winnow nine some would say I would do from that for price that you were the threshold that you you throw in your name in completely legitimate ties. Because you know, we talk a lot about state politics on the program in you carry a lot of weight in Austin when people saw your name, and it's not to throw shade on Zerwas or anyone else. But when they saw your name that kind of release the floodgates you disagree with that? Well, I, you know, I I think the numbers, you know, in the the events speak for themselves. I I don't know that I can personally, you know, take credit for that. But I mean, the re the realization that I felt like I could work with Dennis position him as a very strong and capable house speaker is just a decision that I came to, you know, with with the fashion council some of my colleagues, and certainly we we want what's best for the house. And so often, you know in in these matters. I think it's it's difficult for people especially to candidate to see the big picture. Maybe swallow your your pride or and fishing or whatever's driving somebody, and actually, you know, try to try to help our body in and we need it. You know, we need that right now is as bad as ever. So you know, that was a just a calculation and a decision, you know, that you know, I think was was made not. Only at the right moment in time, but delivered in the right moment time because a lot of the candidates had you know, supporters and everybody seems somewhat frozen. You know, you know, with regard to, you know, move in their their efforts, you know, forward. And so I think that, you know, very likely did kinda removes the log jam and folk started to understand, you know, our caucus votes to you know, a couple of weeks away and sessions right around the corner. And they started looking at speakers Ray. I mean candidates you may have momentum and then who they surround themselves with and what that means. And so I just felt like it was the right time to do that for a whole host reasons. And again, I'm, you know, very confident with decision that that I made let's go to the caucus vote for folks who are not attuned to Texas politics. The body is one hundred and fifty members in it's one of it is in my view. The most significant capacity in which voters do not elect a leader. It is up to one hundred and fifty state representatives to come up with their own speaker of the house the caucus towards the end of the last session. I believe or maybe just after the session introduced that the next the Republican caucus the next speaker of the house with Republicans being in the majority at that time ninety five and that's dropped by twelve since then, but the majority the majority party effectively would come up with its own speaker four person ask you about this Dennis Bonnin many win or you usurp that process in people who backed on early. They've been called back benchers by some to be Frank revenge of the nerds by some coalition who got behind bond an early Republicans that day. Didn't play much of a factor in a Strauss run. How Joe Straus run house and bonded? Not taken the pledge in many say that Bonnin did in in in Durant were the people that were promoting on that you were playing by the rules for price of what was laid out in. Then there was an interim by the very people who put forward this new rule that he had to be elected within the caucus. He had not signed that pledge. Do you feel like you were taken aback by that? Do you feel like there's some questions within the caucus going forward given that I think it's pretty empirically evident that he wasn't on board with the rule, then he got on board with the rule once he had the forty or so. You know, it's a it's a new process for the for the party in the caucus. And and certainly there was a lot of the bait last, you know, year about whether or not we'd actually even employ a cocky spoke process for a nominee to move forward from the party. There are certainly good points in in soft points that are made, you know, in favor against the process, but we did have one put in place, and you know, what happened I guess on that Sunday a couple of weeks ago when a group of members got together, and you know, more or less drafted Dennis to, you know, to to run or basically, you know, said they would support him. If he did was was a little surprising. I mean to to number of us because one we didn't know what was going on into when it occurred. I think you know, everybody was hearing that the votes were significantly higher that you had you know. Forty forty five even fifty people saying that they they wanted him to to run. And so, you know, the the the reality was is in most cases when news like that breaks. You know, the smart thing is to not get panicked, but to to let the dust settle and see exactly what was true four. Thanks number was smaller. Lemme lemme just delve in here. Sure. That time you'd sign the pledge but bone and had not is that accurate. Yeah. That's correct. Right. And so, you know, I mean, I I think that there was nothing that was going on, you know, and I can't really seek out occurred who's in charge or what occur because I just obviously wasn't there. But you know, the fact is when the dust settled they had you know, somewhere between twenty and thirty members that that wanted him to run. And so he subsequently did file, and you know, the the process that went down, then is not one that you know, I can really speak to in terms of what happened because I wasn't there. But what I'll say is, you know, every speaker. Candidate that files is out trying to you know, solicit support give members into their camper tent, so to speak to to tell them, you know, what their vision is and hope that folks, you know, support them. So, you know, I I'm not really a fan of of secret meetings, and you know, that this and that and that's happened though. Right. Yeah. It is. I mean, I think I mean again, I wasn't invited. I wasn't there. So you know, I can't I can't say what occurred because it was surprising to me. But you know, I don't I don't I don't hold that against Dennis. And you know, I believe that by evidence, you know, today. There's a tremendous number of house members that do want, you know, him to to be elected speaker and in so, yeah, there's there's definitely flaws in our process, and maybe the rules need to be clear about what folks can and can't do or shouldn't shouldn't do. We're still going to go through the caucus process. There's still two other candidates in the race in the Republican party. And you know, my, my guess is, you know, they will they may take it all the way to the caucus and put their, you know, candidacy out before the body and give their speeches and everybody'll take a take a boat. But you know, the the the way those votes game came about I guess is something that I think folks will be talking about. For a while. You know? Folks within the legislature. Yeah. Interesting to everybody. But I think members will be. I think it's important phone the legislature. Like, I do when I've come to learn is that the lingua franca in the legislatures trust, and there are some questions after all of this. We're with for price state Representative out of Amarillo of four. I'm going to ask you this. Because you're an elected official. How old are you? I'm fifty one. Okay. So a lot of time. I. You know, say this in I'm asking you hard questions, but is somebody who watches legislature, really respects you and your cynic cohort. They're out of Amarillo for your stolid governing. That it's to me. It's not a matter of if it's a matter of win in that depends on how long you wanna stay in this game. I wanna come back to that here in just a moment. But let me get my ADHD under control in ask you about the you mentioned to candidates. There's soon the race. I seem you mean, drew Darby Travis Claudy, drew Darby, downing, San Angelo. You both have a lot of mutual interest. A lot of people would think that you and drew Darby are on the same page you both through your names in the hat. Four speaker four price to me was their reason. Why you couldn't support drew Darby who announced before you? And have you had conversations with drew Darby sins? I have I've talked to drew quite often throughout the whole. You know speakers race period of time. We are. We are friends. I talked to drew frequently laptop him, you know, since I made my nounce -ment. He was one of the first phone calls that I've made to reach out to him to let him know what I was doing it. Why? And it really, you know, it's hard not to take these things. I'm sure personally. But you know, I did explain to him about, you know, how I felt like either of us if we didn't budge, you know, the supporters we add, and, you know, some of whom you know, if I got out of the race my support him, but others would go elsewhere and vice versa. I'm sure you know, made sense to me to support the candidate. I felt you know, had the best position or positioning to unify our body and move forward to be able to get most of the Republicans and most of the Democrats under the same tent. Because I think you know, if you can elect a speaker like that from that broad base of support among the members, you will put them in a position of power that won't be exploited in chamber or outside the chamber, and I explained to drew, and and you know, I'm sure, you know, he might have it might have had a different opinion. But you know, I just felt like Dennis was in the best position to achieve that result. And get their the way I think speaker should get there. And so, you know, Wynans party winning the minority party getting a coalition abode than and moving the body forward, and drew, you know, very respectful. Understood my analysis. I can't say totally agree with that. But he was nothing, but professional and kind, and yeah, we talked quite often leading up to that day. And we're on a panel here together ear next few hours. So you know, it's it's it's tough these things they're like any other race. You have a lot of. Vested in them. So it's it's hard to bring him to closure. But it's politics. We're all gonna move forward. And do what we think is best for region in the entire state. He is four price in Amarillo. A couple more things here chairman. I'm want to talk about you talk about unity in unifying the body. I've been told numerous times that Hugh is well as Darby have had the option of a large contingent of the Democrats, you know, sixty seven may be somewhere north of fifty five, and then you bring in contingent of Republicans, which you know, maybe twenty twenty five more twenty five in the you had you coulda pulled the lever in had the same press conference today with the majority your support being Democrats four price is. That true in. If it is why did you choose not to pull that lever? Well, I heard that too. And and as I said, these these races are fluid they change, you know, you know, every ten minutes, and certainly when I started the race. I made it very clear that that I wanted to to win if I could win the right way. I didn't want to win at all costs. Right. Well, like well, in my opinion, the right way to do. It would be to absolutely win the support of your own forty and Santa majority or the whole thing. Well, at least a majority. I mean, our caucus pledge is a little more restrictive in that to be the nominee. You need a minimum of sixty percent. But you know, it's important to me to at least hit that water mortgage of half. Because I think the majority of your party needs to be supportive of your candidacy if you're going to be effective as a leader. And then I also feel like you need to have a broad coalition with you supporting us from the minority port because that's important as well. And, you know, most of the legislation that we actually moved through the the process, it's not highly partisan stuff. It may be urban versus rural regional or berry or you know. Do it's language, but not the highly partisan stuff. Did you see and hear about on the news? So, you know, I feel like to be an effective leader in lead a well-functioning house. He need to support, but you need to gather at the right way from from all these regions and in both parties, etc. Having you know, the opportunity to win it, for instance, with sixty Democrats, and and, you know, you know, less than two dozen Republicans is not in my opinion the right way to win it. And I think that that speaks. Would be fighting that the the problems that go along with that the moment why none would find off the right way for price. Well, it comes down to to you know, who can achieve it and who can achieve it. With whom you know what I mean? So you can't do these things by yourself. And so, you know, like, I said the right ways to to elect somebody in a position to get the largest number of Republicans and Democrats, and I'm built like that's where Dennis position themselves. Very well. No sue do. You think? Look, I know that Joe Straus is somebody who you like personally in you respect shown, let's say professionally even though you're citizen legislatures, but the knock-on Strauss in quite frankly, the fodder foreign power Texans, which slandered Bob Duncan. Make no mistake about it. There. There is always been that. He was elected by Democrats is that what you were trying to avoid in doing it, quote the right way. Yeah. You know, in a sense, that's part of it not not really all of it. But I guess the reality is there's a lot of members who feel like that's one headache that you can easily avoided. You know, just the the narrative that you're not even supported by your own party or something like that. Which again, you know, when when speaker Straus was elected back in two thousand nine the body was seventy six seventy four news actually elected by LeMay shin. Even though I think the the the Genesis or catalyst brought that to bear was was more Democrats than Republicans back in online. But you know, I think folks wanted to avoid in say folks, a lot of members a lot of Republican members certainly wanted to avoid just some of the headaches and issues that go along with being elected in the manner that folks have you know, tried to deem for, you know, void it. You can definitely afford it. Okay. We're almost done with you for price. But this is just intriguing to a lot of people who. Attention state politics, which is listeners the most influential form of government in your day to day life. Tell me about the commerce whatever you can say to me the conversations with Bont. I've had people who've said look for price would not bow to this race. If the vet school were not a primary concern, tell me exactly will tell me as much as you can for price about. I wanna to say assurances because that would be a legal, but tell me was he willing to back the vet school. Well, I I think Guinness is very much surprised by some of the you know, comments that that I made aware of and people, you know, both in in your media market in mind, and and certainly cross state who have an interest in what happens with this issue. I told him I said, you know, the the narrative out there and the perception is you're the best. And I said for me personally. That's a big issue too. Big issue in the region that I represent it's big issue be at home, which big issue for you know, tech. And I said chancellor is just been out interesting. Okay. Sorry to talk to you. But now you're affected Bob Dunkin was affected -ly outed over it. So if you weren't interested in it before everybody is now, so go ahead with Braun is on it. Now. Well, he's he's. A fan of chancellor fun gain. He's. Okay. And and. Are you there for I know that you're driving down speaking the vet school for price on his way to a panel on nowhere less than eight AM campus tonight, Texas Tribune panel. But go ahead. You're reception was breaking it. Yes. No sorry about that. The the reality is, so I you know, I wanted to know just you know, if if that was true, and he said he's not against the best school. He's he's opened any of the issues that we bring before the legislature with regard to operational funding, and certainly wants to learn more about you know, what's going on. This isn't an issue. That's been you know, front and center in his house district or or any issue on a committee that he's been chairing or involved with? But certainly is something that I've spent a lot of time talking to him about trying to educate about let him know the perspective of of our area that the skin in the game. So to speak that the the folks in my. Hometown put into it. And what that looks like for our region state and the entire country. And so I'm confident confident and very comfortable. You know, obviously, he's not making any promises or anything like that. But what he is doing is saying this is my position he has never taken a vote. It would be injurious to the best school in the past. He's never, you know, hourly or or even privately to my knowledge done anything that would damage that. And so I'm I'm gonna take him at his word, and I'm I'm comfortable with his position on it. I don't think that he is from as familiar with some of the the details of that issue is is we all are because we're so intimately involved. But I do feel good about the fact that he is not an anti best individuals. Okay. Four price you sitting here. Fifty one years old. I've said not if but win have you had any incomer sations about bonding about effectively turning over how much longer? I was how m- how much longer will you serve in the house. That's up to the voters in house district. Eighty seven. I am certainly thrilled to have the opportunity after you know, the reason election to go back to serve the district to serve the state. It's a real privilege, obviously, DC yourself. Another decade, two decades or. To me on. I I can't predict what happens beyond the next legislative cycle to be honest. The next two years after every session. In fact, I was in your studio j I guess it was after the last session driving home from Austin with on with Karen recorded, or you know, what was on your show. And you ask me if I was planning to run again, that's probably the worst time to ask a legislator. He planned to run again. Right after the session ends so tired out here. But of course, I said I was planning to we had talked about it as we do at the end of every session. I I don't wanna make any commitments or decisions, you know, about what we'll do say two years from now about filing and whatnot. But I'm as long as the people want me to go, and I'm affected and enjoying it. You know, then then I will pursue it. But if any of those other things don't don't seem to be in place, then you know, be time to to wrap it up. But I. I'm I'm really looking forward to this session have every intention to do as much work as I can to make it productive crush. Hey, a couple of things about Amarillo and people ask me, you know, we're working hard to get the show syndicated to emerald because spend a lot of time on you guys you and your cynic cohort there. But I'm writing a piece right now. And I'd like your feedback on this. The state didn't turn purple on Tuesday. It turned Emory. Oh, a play on Merill, of course. But but but but I look at this. And I would think that you count Charlie Garin is a friend in certainly utterly cynical ally. In the house folks, like Charlie Garin walkaway from the races thirty thirty five points in the Metroplex if I can. Yeah, I think I would qualify him in the Metroplex, but some of his tea party free. Adam caucus cohorts either lost or won by two or three points. I think what voters want right now or competent a bull. Legislators who can work across the aisle, but still take their sinner right-center lift stances. You disagree? No. I agree. I think, you know, citizens should always want their their house members and cinema members to represent their districts, and do it rationally with confidence, and, you know, the state once folks that have, you know, the capability and the intention to keep, you know, open mind on issues do their homework and their own due diligence on how decisions should be made. And certainly not just vote a certain way on any given issue because someone or some third party, you know, tells them to and I'm not saying anybody's doing that all the time or anything like that. But what I am saying is people want effective competent people in. Positions of of representing them as the state legislature. And so I think, you know, now more than ever when populations are growing, and people may not know their house or Senate member the way they used to or have that you know, kind of relationship with them. It's very important for the house and Senate members to be very competent and worked really hard at it involving themselves in their district and getting their their work and message known to their voters and citizens that they represent making sure that their accessible. So I think folks like Charlie do great job at that. It's no surprise me. He one great big margin. And I think folks respect it. I think they they see him as somebody that will listen, you know, and make the best decision, regardless of what you know. The bill. You know, authors, you know, city origin is or region. They're from party, they belong to you just won't get good legislation in place, and you expect people to take solid boats based on on how they value. Wait a minute. I I think he's a good example of that. And I think other members are two and a half close races. I don't wanna say if I had a close race doesn't do that. But folks need to really pay attention to what this last election signal. And I think you know, we will when do you think it signal for price? Well, certainly the state's changing, you know, in some regards, I think obviously more folks were registered to vote in participated in the process and we've seen in midterm elections. And that indicates more engagement think folks are divided you know, to some degree across the state with regard to certain candidates certain races, which which trickle down effect other races. No question. But but yeah, I think what we learn is. You know, there's. No substitute for for good, solid work. You know, getting out and knocking doors meeting voters being transparent being accessible having a record that folks can understand and look up, and you can explain it's it kinda, you know, it's not it's not any secret how you are successful. I mean, I think if you do a good job it's easier to keep your job as been close out with you here for price pre sheets you making Tom I know that you're going down to am and people will have different an adjectives for a nimh within this an EMMY listening audience, but. You know, I've been asked so cloudy Darby or price who's the best candidate in. And I said, you know, different things about each of the three of the four. But here's here's a comeback to with regards to you. Go talk to somebody and ask them what they're passionate about in with four price. I think like maybe in the top three would be room mental health like who says that who who do you know that in their right mind a play on mental health. But I think tow law the people here, even though you bowed out of the speakers race. And it sounds like he bowed out with an understanding of where things were headed. I won't say an agreement, but a good understanding of how to work together with the presumably speaker bond, and nobody knows what's going to happen. But you may. Be one of the only people around working on issues that most folks don't see. But we'll begin to appreciate over time. Do you tend to keep on track with initiatives like rural mental health and in others? Absolutely. You know, the the panel I'm going to speak on tonight is entirely focused on rural issues, and you know, while the the population centers get a lot of attention. Most of Texas is rural Texas, and you know, we need adequate healthcare, we need resources, and and good transportation, we need quality schools and all the things that that I think are so important to to making Texas, Texas and retaining its identity. So absolutely that's my intention. I, you know, I'm I'm, you know, so proud of the last session with with regard to legislation like telemedicine Bill and the behavioral health bills that I carry because it benefits folks, surely. In urban areas, and and you know, highly populated counties, but it also levelled the Plainfield, and we made sure that we've benefitted counties that were small in population than had no resources and made those those resources that that the legislature provided accessible small rural communities, and so that is something that I will work hard to improve no matter. What position I'm in? No matter what committee serve on or chair. So yes, I said that will not change. Jay, the the the fact that I'm I'm really enjoying working to represent the interests of smaller rural communities across the state. It has significant importance to our economy and communities all over the state of Texas. So I intend to continue to do that regardless of what committee I may serve on her chair. Or what position I'm in? It's going to be a priority for me. Well, he is four price state Representative out of Amarillo. Four. Appreciate you taking some some questions here. He's on Twitter at four because he is Walter what the fourth promise after Thomas the fourth. All right. Four price Texas on Twitter. Thanks for time, buddy. You bet enjoyed it. You'll have a good evening. Okay. You too on the line with us is. So that there with four price clues. Yeah. Out on this edition of the other side and Texas. Hey, listen. I gotta get home. God getting home above average family in great dinner. Well, I great family above average dinner waiting for me. Also, your fancy football J boys in need kindle. For the forty Niners quarterback excuse me, the tiny end and Odal Beckham and Robbie gold to go plus forty in my fantasy lead tonight in order to win. It is one of my side. I ate do to keep saying to take my mind off politics just moments. So I don't wind up. Mike some crazy like some other crises Iman, listen to or follow on social media in radio in really appreciate if I can just take a moment. People have reached out to me they've gotten some Nielsen ratings, and let me know that they marched us up is they're five to six pm. Listen, we are closing a little bit late to hope that we brought to you so radio worth listening to. That's certainly always in the first among mind the. Forefront of my mind, I should say that we wanna put together radio program that you would wanna listen to on your podcast and otherwise in you would share with your friends. So until tomorrow I wanna sign off four Scott, brenick four four price. Thanks for this is dishing of the other son, Texas. We'll talk to you tomorrow right here on in from the historic studios here at AM Bob eighty and look forward to being with you begin right here. From. Right here. From the studios were buddy, Holly beginning. Thanks sam.

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Monday 6/3/19 - Sports Betting Is Legal (ft. Joe O)

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Monday 6/3/19 - Sports Betting Is Legal (ft. Joe O)

"I ain't Bank today is Monday June third Chicago dog walk guests of the day is Joe Straus key from six seventy the score. Gio first and foremost, it is great to have another. Saint PAT's guy on the show. How are you? Yeah. That was a long time ago. What's going on? Eddie thinks. It's a great day in the state of Illinois. The last few days, it's weird. Seeing that about how great things are going right now down in Springfield. I know. Yeah. And if you don't know what he's talking about where looting to sports gambling, is not legal in our state, right, you. Yup. Oh marijuana to marijuana to. Yeah. Little tried note. Did anything else happened besides those two because I feel like obviously, those were you know, front and foremost on the on the poster there. Yeah. There was there was a lot going on. They had to pass the budget as well. There was minimum wage is going to be fifteen bucks. There was a lot going on in Springfield. And that's why ended up being there for so long day to day I didn't know what was going on. I got a couple of days at the hotel, and it was okay the spring sessions going into the weekend, which rarely happens had to get another night, and then I had to get another night, but we were finally able to wrap things up on Sunday. Thankfully, and it wasn't even close Eddie, it passed with flying colors since it went into the weekend, they needed to get three fifths of the vote and on the house side, it was eighty seven to twenty seven and then on the Senate side on Sunday, forty six to ten Super Bowl twenty coming through so so Pritzker. He let it be known that he wanted sports betting. And most of the state got on board. So we're going to have it pretty soon. Yeah. They just kind of filed along with their any doubt, though. I know like last week it sounded like it was going classic Illinois getting a little greedy there where we want to twenty percent of the tax on sports betting. When I think Vegas is a little over six percent. Right. But I mean it seemed like such a no brainer. Like I was there ever a point I guess where it didn't seem like it was going to happen. Yeah. Talking to state rep Celeski on Saturday night after their vote about the whole process in used to bring me behind the scenes of what was going on and not to get too much into politics, here, it just based on the people that I was talked to in the capitol building. My biggest takeaway, Eddie was governor prescriber, like him or not voted former not anytime. There was any sort of an issue, he stepped in and he smooths things over you. Wanna make sure deal got done. We heard on Friday night, mayor lights. It was upset that there would be sports books at the, the venues like Wrigley or soldier. Field United Center if they go down that road because he was worried that it would take away revenue from her mega casino that she'll get somewhere in Chicago. That's also part of this deal. I, I was nervous on Saturday when we were waiting for that house vote. But once I saw eighty seven twenty seven, and I was walking back from the capitol building to the hotel. It just kinda hit me like, wow. They're really going to get this done. The Senate votes going to be easy. It's just a matter of time were you sitting in like we're able to hear people's like pros and cons on it. Yeah. Yeah. They have the gallery up top. So the floor is on the third level of the capitol building. And I got I got up to the gallery. So I was looking down on everything that was going on. I, I gotta tell you. I'm not that much into politics, honestly, and I was learning a lot of this on the fly. But I had a ball this weekend. It was a lot of fun. I can you give me a look? What is it like to spend a week in Springfield, now how many shoes did you have? Was a miserable. I did sex, a co worker of mine, producer Adams Trzcinski, he grew up outside of Springfield. Like maybe one hundred miles from there, just, you know, all cornfields, but he, he would talk that would be the big thing you go to Springfield for the city was like, how did you live here? It was so different. He had just we're not used to that. I grew up in north west side, just like you. You did. And, and I've now live in the south suburbs. That go downtown for work every day, just I wasn't too used to. It was quite different. I did have one issue because everybody told me that it had to go get one. So I made sure to go to Darcy's pints on Saturday night as a little celebration because I knew it was going to happen. I never even knew of a horseshoe before I went down there. It's like essentially people don't know. It's when it's like open faced burger with fries on top of it with cheese on it. Should you can get whatever meat you want? I guess, okay, the it starts with Texas toes on the bottom, then some people get burgers. I've heard buffalo chickens. Really good. Then you got that and then he just pile on fries. And then this cheese sauce, all over the top, and it goes all over the size. It was pretty good. But I hated myself when you're done. Yeah. I, I hear you. Well back to the gambling Jill. The go through Springfield, definitely gonna horseshoe, whatever. So you, you who is approved right now. And when is this going to happen, a lot of people is it really going to happen. Their goal is February, I think I heard or is or is there seemingly possibility that we can have some sportsbook open here wants college football kicks off? Nobody's approved right now. So the part that's up in the air, which, I don't have any experience with is how quickly is the gaming board. Going to hand out these licenses, those that are going to be applying the existing in new casinos, we're going to be getting the race tracks and the seven sports venues in the state. That's where it's going to happen right away. So I asked sit rep Celeski throughout the process of had him on score a few times, just what, what is the timeline if this works? You get this done by the end of may. When arena, C sports books, and he was very conservative. And he said they were hoping like you mentioned February like around the Super Bowl and the. The other day, I got an interview with Senator link it. He was the main sponsor on the Senate side. And I asked him the same question he said, well, once these licenses go to the casinos that go to the book, they're going to be working twenty four seven to make sure that they're up and running for bears Packers week one in the NFL season in for college football. And they don't time is money. They don't want to miss any of that he thinks are going to be up and running in September when we start football. I mean, that should absolutely be the goal. I mean I, I would not. I mean, well, what has to happen say, do you know how is it going along a New Jersey? Like is that seemingly possible or center link kind of I mean is that lofty expectations? Well, what we're probably going to see is was talking about the horse tracks for a minute, though, partner up with some of these gaming entities that have experienced with this setup some sports books out, New Jersey, so that's what I expect to happen. I don't since the models already out. Out there. I wouldn't think that it would be too complicated. Now once they're up years. A confusion, Eddie, some people think. Oh, can I only bet when I'm there, how they set it up is, you've got to go to the track casino, sports venue? You register in person, then you're good to go, you can make the posits from your couch, and you can make bets likely on an app from your phone at home or at the bar wherever after that, you just gotta go that one time. And then you're good. That's crazy, 'cause I keep bringing it up how I don't know how many people are actually going to transition to this. I keep forgetting about that angle that you're going to be able to make sports bets from your phone, and this is going to be that easy. So it's that's where it's going to get kind of dangerous, because are you going to have to put that money up front, like, is it going to be kind of, like draftkings and fan duel? We're going to load your account. Do you know how it's gonna work? Yeah. I like bravado like the offshore sites. Okay. That's that's how it's going to work. It's not going to see. That's why the bookies will still be in business, as you know, is because they give credit upfront so you don't have to deposit a bunch of money and then make that sale. Let you make Bech right away. Up to a certain point. But here's the other part in the casino is big here Betty, because so once the racetracks, we all know that they're going to get sports books. It's going to help them, they'll probably be open year round. But another part of this deal is they can get one thousand two hundred gaming positions. So that means it's basically going to be a casino and a sportsbook at the race track. That's so there's actually going to be tables. They're yes, they're going have table games and probably slot machines. So okay when I say, tw- twelve hundred gaming positions, a lot of people don't know what that means. I was told that it's places to gamble the riverboats that we have right now. That's their limit. They have twelve hundred gaming positions. So that's how much that they can have track and all the existing casinos with part of this deal. They can now spanned up to two thousand positions. And Joe, there's really hurts even more about me. He would be knocked out like, I'm all may just missed the boat. How did they not? I guess it's Illinois. But man, if they could have just hold on a little bit longer. I know them about more. I mean Hawthorne holy shit. Like these guys like they hit the lottery like that. That was the lottery, right? Yeah. I was talking to a bunch of people that are at Hawthorn day were having a party last night. Let me tell you this is gonna this is going to be revived the horse racing industry in Illinois, and the person's are going to go way up for the racist. Okay, one second. Let me stop this interview with show, real quick to talk about. JP. Graziano JP Graziano. Is there? The new sponsor of the show for the foreseeable future. I personally am very excited about this is where I used to work there over located on ninety one west Randolph in the west loop. I worked a couple blocks away from there. And JP's was always that place. Or if someone went without you, you're like, what the hell man, you know, got to at least take the orders down. You know, the lists were as long as a CVS received the people who wanted to sub from there, because the places that there's a lot of great south place in the city, but JP's is my personal favourite. So I couldn't be happier to have them on board. And how about this, because their partner with us, you're going to get a little bit of a discount, go online online orders. People didn't even know you could order online over there. Konta middleman, get rid of those, those third party sites to order from and just go to their website directly to get ten percent off. If you enter the code dog walk besides that how about this. You know, everyone goes in there that give you the, the punch cards, you get nine sobs, you get the tenth free or maybe ten subs. You get the eleventh free say, Eddie -centia. Tell MRs, gee, that's the best part to, you know, it's so homey in there you go. See MRs Graziano there at the back and she, you know, she'll your short baby a couple of pennies maybe a dime. She'll let you go, because that's just kind of the people, they are over there, telematic, essentially, give you an extra punch on your sub card. She'll get that free shop a little bit faster and this week, especially this week, they're going to be celebrating their eighty second anniversary. So on Friday, the first eighty to customers that walk in are going to get a free cannoli. I don't know who's gonna argue with free cannoli. I know I sure won't. So go check out J P Grazziano located on ninety one west Randolph and go get your subs, go get your free, cannoli this Friday. All right back to Joe. That's awesome. That's great to hear. Have you been in touch with any of the casinos, you may be any the Caesar awards ones, or rivers or anyone like that? I have not yet, but I'm definitely going to start to reach out and talk talk to them about a time line. And what their plan is, is your models at they're going to be following because I'm also curious about that. But I can't see you talking about throwing away money from the state for so long by letting people just bed off shore and Costa Rica elsewhere. I just can't see them, you know, twiddling their thumbs in wasting anytime here. They've got to get this up and running as quickly as possible, and there's so much excitement, even this news going down on a Sunday in Springfield. I felt the buzz throughout the entire state. No. There definitely was a buzz this whole weekend. I would say who's who's upset I read something about draft kings fan. Dole is there anyone else who's kind of on the outside looking in or wasn't happy with what happened? Yeah. Jackie is a fan. Fan Diller mad. They can partner up with one of these casinos racetracks. But the compromise that they, they came up with in their fight with rivers casino is they can partner and they can get an online license in eighteen months. So there's going to be these three online licenses that go up, but they won't be available for a year and a half for twenty million dollars a pop so that is going to be a huge fight who's going to get those three online licenses from the gaming board. Other people upset I on the floor yesterday at the Senate. There was one person that stood up, and it was Senator over vice, and the rest of the gallery was literally laughing at him and then Senator link he had the closing remarks. He brought it home. You might see the clip, it was on the news last night is very emotional. He was working on this gaming Bill for fifteen years, a well respected, man, and just he brought. The house down. He got a standing ovation. And then they went to the vote, and it's like boom, forty six to ten. It was awesome. Wow. Why was that guy? Upset like what was his main reasoning over vice he was just pointing up, but he was saying, oh, this is good old, Illinois. I wanna know exactly where all of these dollars are going. And, you know, we need to be careful about where the money's going, but it's going to be capital for the state. So this really came together at over the last couple of weeks. Thanks to the hard work as I mentioned earlier with governor Pritzker against it. It's a talking to people behind the scenes, and what everyone kept saying was. Wow. It's really nice to have a governor with a normal personality that wants to get shit done. Yeah. Wow. Shallow to JP. Then man, it sounds like he really pulled some strings and kind of not even pulled some strings this kind of made. Sure. That everything went smoothly. Yeah. Man. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm sure you'll be doing some shows from sports books. This fall, we'll be there. We're already we you know, we got emails soon as it went down. We've got we're getting the wheels turning on how we could kind of getting on this as well for sure. All right, Joe. Thanks for coming. Is there any other thing that, you know, kinda you want the listeners to know that to kind of look forward once this thing goes legal, there's been some confusion about the tax rate and we met I think we mentioned that it was at fifteen percent. That's where they ended up and some people are concerned. Well does that mean I have to pay fifteen percent of every bit? It's not what that means. It just means that, that's what the sports books are going to have to pay fifth-biggest taxed on fifteen percent of their revenue. Now it's up to the books how they want to set up the bats, but they're going to be fighting for customers. The sports bettors out there. So I think they'll be posting minus one ten lines. No. That's good. Then that's definitely good to hear that. We're going to be coming out of our pockets. That's all that matters. Right. Yeah. Exactly. At least I hope so otherwise, they're, they're morons because why, why would you bet somewhere if it's going to be minus one fifteen twenty. Yeah. No point at all. All that's for sure. Joe? Thanks so much. Where can people find you at Joe? Oh, six seventy on Twitter and Twitter. And then you're hosting six to ten pm and six score. Yeah. When the cubs aren't playing catch me catch me on the score. It's monday. So tonight I'll beyond after the cubs angels game likely seven to ten. Awesome. John, thanks again. Man, I appreciate it. You got nine everybody. That's it for today. We will cut you tomorrow.

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 141 - Young Pageviews - Part 1

The Tim McKernan Show

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 141 - Young Pageviews - Part 1

"Yes. Yes. Welcome in to the Tim Kernan show on the inside STO podcast network. I am your host Timothy Michael mckernan. Follow me on Twitter at t- mckernan Facebook, Timothy Michael mckernan, even though I've maxed out on the friend thing. And I I don't know forty eight hundred of the people in friends with loved to know them. All I would love to know the Bill follow Tim mckernan show on Facebook, the TMA fan pages where I most active. I would say just cause I enjoy the non anonymity of it. Even though I know there's probably a few hundred fake accounts on there either way to Tim occurred and show in it's from the home loan expert dot com studios, Ryan Kelly. This is a unique one today, brother. This is a unique one today, comma brother, and I'll tell you why tell you how it all came to pass. But I I gotta tell you what we got going on because I'm fired up. I am fired up about what we have going on. And I think you're going to be fired up as well. This podcast is going up. Usually it goes up on Sunday night. And you can be listening to it. Whenever how you might be listening to this like in March of twenty nine thousand nine for all I know but Sunday night November fourth two thousand eighteen so a lot of people wind up listening to on either Sunday night when it goes up or Monday morning or Monday on their way, home from work, whatever the case, but whenever you're listening to it. But here's what I'm telling you. If you're listening to it pre November twelfth I've got the place you need to be and I'm super excited. I was already excited about it. 'cause we're we did this just Doug Vaughn. And I did this in a got a great crowd and a great turnout, and then Joe buck, and I did this and it got a great crowd and a great turnout. And so Now, Dan McLaughlin, and I are doing it. And we might do a series of these like once every quarter or something like that. Maybe one a month. I don't know. But once baseball season rolls around Dan's, obviously, got very little free time. But we're doing this on Monday November twelfth it's presented by bud. Select and it is the Dan McLaughlin, and Tim occuren- QNA at. The improv shop, which is just east of the grove in Saint Louis and it doors opening at five thirty, and we have a special guest to whom you can ask questions because it is a QNA and our special guest. And I don't know if we could have if you would have said you can pick whoever you want in Saint Louis sports world, and in this person will show up and the audience will be able to ask questions at this particular moment, Saint Louis sports history. This is the person and we've got him for you, John Zale. He will be there incredibly kind of, you know, whether you like him you dislike him, I'd like to think you would agree that it's cool of him to do this for him. It's in part because portions of the proceeds from the event are going to three little birds for life, and he he really is truly into charity. And so he said. The Danny said, I'll be there. I got this one thing, but I should be able to get there at six thirty. So we'll have him on for about a half hour on the stage. And it's not like this is like a five hundred person room. It's it's it's it does not hold, you know. So there's limited amount of tickets, and as I'm sitting here recording this intro another order came in. So people are going to be getting these tickets. You can get them at event bright dot com. That's vent. Bright dot com. Type in Tim occuren- and type and Dan McLaughlin type in John Mozelle ach. It'll pop up I've tweeted out the link, I'm a t mckernan, Dan McLaughlin at Danny Mak. Tv. He's tweeted out it's on the fan page. You can find it end. You'll for real was airlock when we did the Joe Straus golf tournament earlier this year. He did it. He was kind enough to play. And it was so cold. It was like for real we teed off twenty six degrees. It was snowing that morning and it was late April in April nineteen and not only did he play. But he then stuck around to QNA at west. Country club that night. And the thing that stood out to be kind of like got in a way. I hope nobody's recording this because he saying some things that you know, I think he's saying because these people spent money on the Joe Straus charity. And then if it didn't have the context people could go with the you know, it was very candid. And so I imagine you're going to get that candor at the improv shop on Monday November twelfth. So the I'm looking forward to it. And I here here's the thing. It's not just me and McLaughlin are gonna take your questions, and we'll give our candidates for certain when mo- is done at around seven. So we have a half hour with him ask whatever questions you want people always say medium this town, soft. All right. Well, here you go your in. It's and here's the deal. It's a fifty dollar ticket. And what that gets you is not just entry. It also gets you doors open at five thirty Nana mama's pizza online at N A N A M A M A S dot com is going to provide pizza. That's all included in your ticket. Obviously with bud. Select is the presenting sponsor you're going to have drink specials. The doors open at five thirty Dan, John Zell Aachen. I will take the stage at six thirty. And we'll probably go until around eight or eight thirty and just be asking whatever you wanna ask about. It's a free for all. So I love doing these things my brother, Kevin he started up the improv shop, and I'm really I often really proud of him. He's incredibly talented, very smart guy. Good guy, and this is his place. And and now he's opening up another one in Kansas City. So he's got a whole thing going on. So it's cool to be able to have this kind of intimate venue. And and we're looking forward to doing it. So go to event for event bright dot com. Get your tickets, it's not like they're going to be around forever because I know how many reversible, and I know how many the room holds. And if you want to have the opportunity to talk with John Mozelle Aachen, ask him questions, we're asking me in McLaughlin questions you're going to have that chance. Plus, you're gonna have food included non anonymous pizza so good and bud. Electives presenting. It's a whole thing improv shops can be fun night Monday, November twelve event bright dot com. And in addition to that, we have the Bud Light is presenting hockey nights with Dan, McLaughlin, and me. And our first one is Friday, November twenty third the night after thanksgiving at enterprise center, and it's the blues and the predators. I mean what a perfect game. I mean first off so many people are in town. It's the holidays, you're hanging out watch Missouri Arkansas during the day fill in tiger during the day, and then you shoot on down to the enterprise centre brother, and it's not like, Dan. And I got a couple of seats next to daddy. Padre. We've got our own penthouse suite. And what your ticket will get. You is all of your food starting ninety minutes before the game about gourmet food. Like, it's not like, oh, yeah. I know what you're going to get Tim. I'm going to be able to walk through and get a hotdog and Nacho chips. I've seen this before. And then like some nondescript meat. Will be there with a guy the carving station. But it's not going to be that good. I've seen the song and dance. I'm not interested. That's fine. Don't be interested. Not a lot of room anyway. But if you are interested, it's gourmet food, and we have our own private bartender. It's presented by bud. Select it's going to be a pony, and you can get your tickets at event bright dot com for that. So when you go to a vet bright dot com, you're going to see two different events with my name, Dan McLachlan's name. Make sure you go to the one you went or go to both of them for that matter and enjoy the fun and games because that is coming up, and we are certainly looking forward to it. That is on November twenty third portions. The proceeds from the event with John Mozelle ach, we'll go to three little birds for life. That is a charity. I have been working with for almost six years now because my health scare was in November of two thousand twelve and that's when I started working with them. And it's the way I describe it to people it's like a Saint Louis based make a wish foundation for young adults with cancer. And the reason why I made my story public was because. When that happened to me. I was in my mid thirties. Just turned thirty six years kind of thinking. Yeah. You know? I mean, I'm I'm fine a cough. That's what I thought. I had and the next thing. I know doctors telling me I have one fomer. And fortunately, it was a misdiagnosis. But once that happens, the world's never the same, and you feel partially guilty because you got out of jail free, and you also just feel incredibly fortunate. And so there are a number of people. Of course, you don't get that good fortune. And a lot of them are young adults and people talk about pediatric cancer often times people older with cancer and they pass away but young adults. What that does? Of course, not only physically, but also your family members. That's the thing that stood out to me most from my experience, and then also financial element of it. And that's what three little birds for life is therefore so that's who we're working with on the QNA with John Mozelle Aachen, Dan McLaughlin, presented by bud. Select on Monday, November twelfth event bright dot com. And then we have the event with the blues and the predators. And that is with portions of the proceeds going to the special education foundation who Dan McLaughlin has been working with and that goes back to when he started his golf tournament fourteen years ago. Dude was in his twenty starting charity tournaments. How about that? God bless him. And so that's what portion of the proceeds from the the the penthouse suite. We'll go to Dan. And I'll be there hanging out. Obviously think my wife Anna Marie will be hanging out. And then this gentleman might be. But it's only because he would be in town, and he would be able to do it both because of his job responsibilities while he's in town with his family and our guest today. And I hope he can't. And after you hear him on here. I'm imagining you're you're going to hope to be able to meet him to his name is young page views from from barstool now his real name is Ben Freedman. But I I I'm so. Impressed with this guy. And I don't think he's he realizes what he's got. And I say that with the utmost sincerity, giving you the background on Hollis interview all came to to to pass. I don't even I for. I don't know how he I popped up on our radio show the Ryan Kelly morning after as we're in the hormone expert dot com studios, but John Seymour, our producer at the time said, hey, there's this guy from Saint Louis who works at barstool. And I think the Londe offset sponsor the podcasts at highway two seventy in Washington, Elizabeth Noam. And and so we want to get him on. I said sure whatever immuno in barstool, I have the utmost admiration for what they have built. How can you not even if you're like, oh, I find the content to be inappropriate, whatever. Okay. It's fine. But it's built it's built an empire and incredibly loyal following and some incredibly amusing content. So yeah, let's have him on on the radio show. And I didn't know who he was. I just knew he's from Saint Louis, and then he comes on like this dude is so good. And I thought to myself honestly, as somebody who had been operating radio stations at times over the last eight years, I'm like how did I not know about this guy? How'd I let him get out of my grasps because I would have loved who hired because I'm gonna tell he's sick talented. So we had communicated and I wanted to get him on the podcast, and you know, he lives in New York City works barstool. And he texted me he's on the runway at LaGuardia hadn't of Saint Louis on a Friday night. And he said, hey, man, I'm gonna be in town if you want to get together because together I said, yeah, let's see if we can make it work. Well, we had the watch party for that. Oh, just Jim dandy of a game with Missouri and Kentucky's Saturday didn't work and I texted him. I said would Sunday work, and he said, yeah, I can push my flight back to do the interview. So then now I gotta ask gangster Pete to come in on a Sunday. And I got asked Nick yell to come in on a Sunday. He's the video for Pete the producer, Anna my fuck. I hate doing that to people. But sometimes you gotta do it. They were complaining completely cool. And they're like who you interviewing and I said young page views, I love young page. She's like a really look at you fan, boys. I had no idea they were so excited about coming in on a Friday or Sunday, excuse me, not a Friday to interview young page views, and I had no idea I walked in. I see him in the studio. They're already wait in here. And I I'm sorry about having you come in on a Sunday. No can't wait to meet him. But I also realize the number of people listening right now are like I don't know who he is familiar with barstool. But I don't know he is. And then I know there are a number of people who are not familiar with me in any capacity, but they're familiar, of course, with young pages and barstool and they wanna hear him. So we got a couple of new audiences here, either new audiences young page views or you audiences for this podcast. Welcome aboard. But I love doing long-form interviews, and I think got I don't know what the longest one is at this point, we've gone long with some politicians we've gone long with the cardinal general manager, we've gone long with the cardinal president of baseball operations, we've gone long with Mike Metheny, the former cardinal manager long with Gary Pinkel. I mean, we've had US senators. I mean, we've had we've news anchors the personalities, whatever. But I used to go. Okay. Was that a new record when we went like an hour and forty five fuck that we have the new record in the new record was only stopped. Two hours and forty minutes because I had to piss it got to a point where I had to piss, and we had to stop the interview, and I realized podcast, and I could have gone. Hey, boys. I gotta piss I'll be back, but we'd already gone two hours and forty minutes. And I'm like, I can't we can't you gotta flight. And I got a one year old. So we gotta we gotta pull the plug on the thing. But this guy I mean, I'm telling you he's good and the people at barstool have a great one, and they have a number of incredibly talented people. But this guy is instant offense. And it's so good that for the first time in the Tim occuren- show history. We're going to parts I think it was gangster Peter said this was like a Joe Rogan podcast 'cause he goes like two or three hours all the time. That's what it is. But we usually go about ninety minutes to max hour and fifty I think is the long before this. But since we went nearly three hours or doing two parts, and I'd like to think after you hear part one you're gonna be like, yeah. I totally get it. I can't wait to hear part two. That's what the boys are like. For sure. So they definitely two parts. So what do we have for you? You're gonna go. Yeah. I want to hear about barstool. I love barstool. What's it? Like there. You're going to hear all that. We get into like the as he calls them, the hit pieces that barstool seems to navigate once a month or so and there certainly was a recent one and he wanted to get into XY hurt us talking about them on the radio show. And he wanted to get my opinion on its we certainly talk about that. But what do we lead with? What do we lead with? Well, I went to the university of Missouri journalism school. I didn't graduate in graduate. I have eight hours left, and I just don't know if I'm gonna I'm gonna knock those out. But one of the things I learned while at the university of Missouri journalism school was to never bury the lead. And so when you're sitting with young page us in the home loan expert dot com studios, and you have an opportunity to ask him anything. What do you ask? I. The question has to be what's the deal with your reporter with adult film, star Lahaina roads? That's how we start our conversation today here on the Tim mckernan show. Our guest this week young page views of Saint Louis presented by Mark Hanna of evergreen wealth strategies online at evergreen STL. Even if you've never heard of the gentlemen, settle in. I'm telling you kind of like I say about Mark Hanna give him a phone call. You'll be happy that you did check them out online at evergreen, S T, L dot com or give him a call. Because I'm I if I could I would say here, I'll put you up a bet this that you're going to be happy. You give him a call at three one four eight nine zero five zero three or online at evergreen S T L that com to get your financials right to get you organized a lot of people want to do that at the end of the year. People have young Tykes like me they start setting up a five twenty nine for. The state tax deduction. Do it with Mark Hanna, and I say do it because I'm so confident. Well, I am so confident in this one, and I know gangster Pete Nick would vouch for it as well that you're gonna want to settle in for this. But even if you're like, yeah, I know who Mike Mulvaney is I know John Zelic is an Gary Pinkel is. I know Keith kachuck is I don't know who young page uses. You're gonna know young page uses and you're gonna be happy that you listen to him, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for part one of my conversation with young page views of barstool sports here from the hormone expert dot com studios on the mckernan show. All right. We're going to lead with Lana roads. Because I think that's where you gotta go here. All right. So I have and I was saying this these well, not not Nick, the wonderful videography both. These guys are huge fans of yours, by the way, appreciate that. Because it's a Sunday when we're recording this thing, and I texted them both last night like at ten o'clock and go, hey, young page views is available to do an interview on Sunday morning. I feel fucking terrible about asking people to come in on a Sunday. And they're both like can't wait can't wait to me. Him. All right. Great. So they're happy to be here. This isn't like some random interview that there. So leeann pizza over we're doing that watch party for the Missouri Kentucky game, one wonderful, wonderful festivity. And and somehow I guess the topic of Lisa an comes up do your. I'm sure you're familiar come on, man. Should have prepared a trivia. But to see who who would fare better in the porn trivia, we may have to do. So at least ends on the show every Friday and she's coming for events, and she'll casually DMZ nothing creepy. I mean, it's in writing. But now when I see a Lisa and video pop up. I can't watch it. You know what I mean? And so I and so we were talking about yesterday, but I've known cayden cross for like a decade, and we're like friends, and and so when I see an up and coming starlet who I don't think she knows about I then like feed them to her and Manuel the power couple San Fernando Valley. Yeah. All that's the plow hawks favourite. And then two months later, I'll be scouring the internet. And sure enough man wells banging away on the girl that I found while scrolling along and Saint Louis, and I feel like powerbroker that's like Magic Johnson this right there. That guy's got to give you a committee. So with Lana roads about I don't know what it was at this point two or three years ago. Yeah, I'm scrolling along because I am the talent finder here in the mid west. And I say cayden, I said, I got a new one for you. I mean, I add Christy Mack. I had August Dame. I mean, I'm you know, this is I'm the scout. There needs to be a documentary. And I said, I got a new one for you. Lana roads, and she goes already had dinner with her. And I know she goes she's going to be an absolute star. You, sir. You were starting with this. We're not even start with your background when I start with barstool or starting with Lana road. You are the conduit to Lana roads for all Saint Louis ins as we. That's like such a weird title the whole. But it is true. I mean, the same kind of thing happened. I was doing some scouting and meet guys like menu. We're we're film guys. We were gonna be in the film room making sure like nothing surprises us. You know what I mean? You don't want to be out on the field and see something you've never seen before. So I was doing some scouting in. The same thing. It's amazing. What you said that was literally my same thought process. I saw the video and most of the time have chicks that hot. You're like this is going to be some sort of software like fake thing where it's not like, you know, real scene or they're not it's like a solo thing. I'm like this chicks too hot, right, right? Next thing. You know, I watched the scene. I wish I knew the name of it. I don't know the names because I go on like thumbs though, the real names of things it just like, you know, description whenever so you need, and I watched this video I sorta guys taking back. It was like legitimately must be what it's like when they saw like Michael Jordan play the first time in like high school, and they were like, oh, no, we got something here, you know, like in the scouts like he calls, his buddies that you're not going to believe this and his buddies that come on man, I've seen like, you know, a million talents. Come through am my intern last summer, I had internet. I think it was his first day. Right. God blesses eighteen years old, and I came to work, and I said, dude like this. This actually my be messed up. He was eighteen he's he's couch kit. I feel like desire. I said dune you're not gonna believe what I said why saw them in. And I thought the hottest sports are I've ever seen in my life. I didn't show him to be honest. But I did tell him. I was like, bro. I'm I came in think like it was his first day on the job the intern house like you got to find something to do for a little bit. Because I gotta figure out who's chick is what's going on. So I looked it up and says Lanta roads and Mike. All right. I gotta remember that name. I start googling. There's nothing on her. It was right at the beginning. Right. She didn't have a lot of stuff out. And I was like is a classic case too. Good to be true, Mike. She did one video this is foreign or something. Oh, no. So I came I on right? And I had that video like on a tab for like probably three weeks. Does you know like you don't wanna lose it? Because once you lose it. It's gone. Then next thing, you know, I told him I this is kind of like a lame thing. And I do have a girlfriend so this very that. But I told him I was like Joe like this might be the girl my dreams, I'm gonna marry his tick, whatever it, which is not in the first thing you see when you see go having sex on camera. On the net. You maybe shouldn't think that. But that's okay. I was so taking taking with her next thing. You know goes a couple months later, and I was a huge appreciator. But in private I didn't say a lot. You know, I wasn't really tweeting out like my favorite porn stars at this point. So my friend caves the okay, his name's KFC bar. I don't know. He just Casey, radio course, and fight Oberg. Another degenerate who follow bergh's, my boy, we got a lot of ANC INCE of seeing this guy named k Markle. We kind of have this underground network. You know what I mean? It's kind of a little hush hush thing. And when we see something like that. It's like dude you got to check this out. You know, what I mean, like Scott carrier pigeon type stuff we're not like so next thing. You know, I was sitting in the radio room because they got a film still seems all the time in office, which is a drag because not a drag. But I don't like having the the weight of like anything that happens. It's like, why did we why don't you? It's hard to get one hundred people in office and never miss anything. So I always got to be roving around whatever. And I got a guy that helps me with it now. But anyways, so I was in the radio room. Plus side of film associates as you get to be in situations. I wouldn't be in if not right? I've been Cavs with Dave in big cat and Erica talking about things that I wasn't supposed to hear whatever. Because you're in there in these situations. It's very cool. Like, Pat McAfee things behind the scenes that would have never had a chance to do. So in this case, I was standing there in five auxiliary. I don't think we can do it like Kevin was like, I we're just gonna have to scratch it. I was like what are you guys talking about, you know, they're my friends and Mike terminent it was there on a break of the radio. Some you guys talking about like, we got this views porn-star. I don't know what you're talking about are on the podcast. But I don't think we can do it. I was like who is it. You know, I was like trying to act who was like, oh this chick land rose. I I swear to God. I almost fell over my knees are weak. I was like what you say. Because it was one of those things. I didn't know they knew about it. Because there's so many podcasts barstools so many things going on like, I don't listen to really any podcast. I listen to spend sugar sometimes because I'm like hockey fan. But I was like what do you mean? Talked about it. First of all I was kind of like shook like hold up, man. Like, you guys like this chick is like their way bigger than you know, they like cook me in a heartbeat. You don't start talking about her because then you're gonna feel so they said, yeah, we talked about on the podcasts. Awesome. Akira who's a good? Friend course, one of the nicest people as you said like it's weird. You see people on the internet before beforehand in certain positions, or you know, what I'm saying you meet them in like, they're the nicest people in the world, and they can't use it anymore. Never ever ever. A sister to me. Now could buddy like, I know her daughter, you know, L text with Manuel like, hey, what's going on man? And so weird thing and they'd pops up on my laptop gotta get away weird. Like, I almost don't wanna meet anymore because it really is your library painted. Yeah. Like my dog about a month ago recipes and also text me like that night. And I was like fuck, man. Like weird emotional like it's like what's going on, man? Can't be like now on like thumbs Eli like three AM and I see like Austin. I think about my dog died and like what the fuck, man. That's messed up. Sorry. Is that okay? Absolutely free for all. I know. I know this. I may. We're seconds away from discussion. Double penetration already see it coming. That's a great point. So anyways, I told them I said I looked at him in the face. I said Kevin if you don't interview land rose, I don't think I'll ever speak to you get him. Like, I don't know why not going on your so Lanos. She's a big talent. So she she picks the rules. Right. You know what? I mean. It's like if the guy's a big draft pick. He's like I don't wanna play here. He doesn't play there. She said I wanted to the interview at six AM on Saturday morning what? Because she had let's say an appointment at sapphire a business meeting at sapphire all night. She's she wanted to come straight from the club to do the interview, you know, that's their schedule and Firebird love them to death. But he's not a guy that's gonna wake up six AM Saturday morning. That's just not his MO Casey was like it's going to be tough to explain to my wife and kids. Hey, I'm gonna go interview a porn star at six AM on Saturday. And I'm sitting there, I'm sleeping on a foods on time and this rats nest department, and I said boys, Mike, I think I got. Man for the job. They were like they were like, why don't you do it like like flippantly, and I was like a Mike. I'll do it. Now. I felt like like in those army briefings when they're like we we need like a seal team like to go in and rescue someone in nyc someone's I'll do it and I was like all right. There's the mission. So they tax also all this stuff. They're like is going to be six AM mind, you I don't wake up early ever. But I was like this is fun. So I set it up. I'm deathly nervous, right? I'd never met any stars at all other than also who. But she's like I met her under the pretext of like someone I worked with all right? When you meet them in different settings, very weird. So we set it up all this stuff. And like, I didn't think no offense to land. But I was like no chances chicks shows up like, yeah. No factors usually about eighty percent minimum at six AM hand or night. Like, and I didn't know any of her like have it. She actually like doesn't really drink like, whatever they I thought, you know, this. She goes to the club all stuff is going to be no chance, but I'm like I'll wake up with not to go back to bed not big deal. So we we set it up this Friday night. And I'm sitting there, and I had this guy. Devlin who works for us in this guy. Take I Andrew who runs all stuff. 'cause like we're they said, we don't even give fuck if you do the pocket, I just wanna meet or whatever. But I was like no I'm going to interview or whatever because I didn't want to be that weird. You know, that's H U or good. That's weird. You know? So we go and we were like prep in. We're like what are we going to do? And I'm like, you know, I'd never really interviewed. Anyone I'm trying to think I interviewed a couple of guys the shark week. Like, my next one is land rose, Mike. What you ask a chick who? I just saw got fucked me. What am I gonna ask her like oh that hurt? So we go, and I remember it was like eleven at night. We're like play we're pregnant like it was like like some sort of like test or something knows like the weirdest thing. We're going to do this they slept there. Because at the time one of them was living in Brooklyn never. So they're like, they're they were like, we will not miss this. We're going to sleep at the office. I was like, I gotta go home. Do some more research last minute. I went back to my apartment, and it's also one of those weird things, you know, I've been watching videos for months, so then when you know, you're going to meet him like changes the scenario a little bit. You're like, ooh. Like, you kind of playing it out in your head a little different. You know what? I mean when you're watching 'em like so I did a lot of research that night went to bed pride three or four conceive. Very nervous woke up six am. I'm my I kind of hope they cancel you know, what I mean. It's like when you have a big like speaking thing like, I hope the teacher calls it. So I walked to the office. I got Dunkin donuts. Nice gesture. Gallic buck class, man. I'm like, I don't know. So luckily also came with her well rebelling. Yeah. And she's kind of serving the agent throw. She's so nice, and helpful like, I've never seen a more down to earth person as crazy as it is. So she was with her, and she'd text me, and she's like we're running a little late in my that stand. No shit. So I get there in like now, I'm like, what am I gonna do? Not just going to sit at my desk. Even on a mainly our offices setup. The elevators that are like right in front my desk. Looks at him. It's six am the lights are off. What am I going to be there? They know why. I'm there. You can act cool. I'm like, hey, guys who've been waiting there six I brought some doughnuts was like, FOX. So I put my stuff down, and I went downstairs, and I acted like I wasn't there. Right. So we can see where the elevators go up on the thing. It says like a little number. So I was waiting and waiting. Finally. She was like, oh, we're here. We're are. You also. Oh, sorry. Like, I'm just getting their come upstairs, and that way it was like a little easier. Then I walked into it. So I walk in. And like it was so weird, man. It's like pitch black at six am she's in sweatpants sweatshirt, and I'm like, it's just so mind-bending to see someone real life like that. It's so weird. So awesome, so normal. So the second that like we. Start talking. I was like, oh, I gotta go to the bathroom. Like what the fuck you gonna be my only mono doing leave right now. I'm sitting here by myself. And I love Landon. But she's not the biggest conversational kind of. She's quite so I had it scintilla time. I still do shot of divorce and next thing. You know? I was like do you wanna see much in Chile and she's night? Sure. Impression impression. We don't have a lot in common. Like, what am I what else? Are we gonna talk about choosing? She doesn't know like Aaron Rodgers is like she doesn't watch sports. Anything Kaga girls? You not. Yeah. That's I mean, it's tough to carry Mike. So like this where we do the rundown. Like, yeah. I don't know any of this stuff. So I'm like anyways. Here's my rat. Mattila? She's just like petting it. And I'm just sitting there. What the fuck man because thinking to myself, what are you doing, you know, like six AM six or sitting here? So in like, the weird thing is you've seen her and the most, you know, graphic way possible. And like, I looked it up. You know, what's? Whereas you from whatever not going to be like, so you from the Chicago. Serial killers was like so like how sapphire psych good? You know, like we just sat there. So we did an interview with your best. You did your best. It was like it was fine though. It wasn't like weird. But it was a little awkward. So do the interview. Also, we went downstairs, this guy devil. That was helping me he was sleeping, and I was like should I do you want me to wake him up on my that means, but I think it would make day. She gets in was on this beanbag. She cuddles up with them this dude man, and this dude injure to who like these guys were completely had no idea. What's going on? They wake up she's like snuggling with them. And the look on their faces men. It was one of the most stunning days. They'd just like, it's probably would seem God is like, you know, when you like sleep and you wake up two lane roads. Like literally touching you like cuddling. It was crazy. They were like excited about that. So I was like is like when these guys came in at ten it was like, hey, guys. Thanks for coming in at six on a Saturday. But I feel. It's pretty even. Snuggling cuddling road. They were like, no problem like anytime. So anyways, we do the interview it was fun. And we took pictures afterwards is a great photographer. And next thing. You know, it looks like we're like boyfriend girlfriend. She's like Lantis taking pictures of their hands on me. And we tweet him out. Whatever I was like, I didn't know what the session would be people went crazy. Right. And like they're like, oh my God. You're dating land roads, all stuff my girlfriend. She wasn't that happy with that. She's not a fan of she's fine with it. But she's not, you know, no, one wants to see like if I saw comments of her with that Manuel Manuel being like, oh, you guys are so great, and I will be living. So it's fair. Anyways, we do the thing. And she started following me. She was sold like shoot on social media all this stuff. So it started building up all of a sudden we were kind of like France somehow in the weirdest way. So then a couple of weeks ago. Actually, this is in about August. I get a DM from win rose. I'm like. What the fuck going on? Right. She was like asked me about helping edit video. So she's like, hey, how do you do this on like premier whatever? And I was like what is going on? Like, you're asking me like look at YouTube do door. By heading stuff. So it was crazy. Next thing. You know, she's coming back to New York. Of course. Everyone tags me whenever she's coming down. So long story short. I I don't even know why told the whole interaction thing I loved it. I don't even more either way she it became gone with thing. Right. So as you said when you meet someone in real life. I'm not looking at him like sexually. It's weird. It's very weird. And like, so everyone started making a thing. Oh, you've Cecil Rhodes all this stuff. And I was like it's good for like business as dumb as that is like it's a brand. Like, look we're talking about it right now. It's crazy like whenever I go on any podcast. Anything people are like, oh, tell me about land roads. So I was like I would always talk about it. More is good, right? But then people started thinking, it's like weird, whatever they're like, oh, you're cysts. Like, this guy's accessible in roads. Jag off. My no, you won't believe this. But I don't lack it to land rose every in like, no one will believe me on that. But I'm like, you know, you can't. It's a weird thing. But they're like buddies. Yes. Can't think it's just so weird. I don't know anyways. So then one time, and this is like, I don't even know why I'm saying this. I'm so stupid. But my sister came to the office in she doesn't I don't think she looks like people are like, oh is that lane roads. Then they're like, oh, your sister looks like I don't think she does. But someone said that and then they're like, oh Dave was like on the run out. Oh, your sister looks like your favorite porn star. So then they're like saying that and I'm like hold up. This is now being taken out of context because I don't even wack to her. She's my friend. It's good for business. She moves the needle in. Now. People are saying like, I'm in love and my sister. So it started taking weird turns. Right. So it was like I couldn't escape it at this point. So then every single time she would come up. I get a million people tag me. Oh, here's your girl in and then a million people like, oh, here's your sister, or whatever. And I was like so that's like actually pissing me off. So I started getting mad. So then I would start blogging every lane road story. Right. So like when she lost her Instagram. Crying video we play that audio qu. Quite often. I mean, there's that's not even my favorite. I think when she got a dog stolen the best thing. Don't you think? What about when she fell into the Tampa Bay? Are that is actually funny fall into the Tampa Bay? There's a lot of stuff and the good news that working with Aasa. It's like being with a like NFL like. Ballers like when it's like being getting the real stores, you tell us stuff of what really happened. I'm not. I don't have anything on that right there because I'm not trying to so. Yes. Did not fall into vamp? Obey. It's not my business. But I think there was some stuff going on. There's a lot of different counts. And I did. So this leads me to the second time. And I'm telling the worst jumbled thing, I think this is the greatest thing. It's so ADD. It's the best. It's the war. Can't pin thing. But usually stop me if I'm being officers outstanding. Anyway inside on Lanta roads falling into Tampa Bay. So she hits me back up. What she me? Right. And I'm like, yeah. Like get premier like she's millions of dollars in like, you can probably hire someone to edit where you landed. But here's how you do it, and whatever, and I was that didn't offer at enforce. That was a big thing that would've been one on your life. Hey, like can edit like so you like you interacting with me? Like, oh, let me like edit a video of you bang to you for you to edit things. She really wanted to learn she actually was like asking what programs? What this and that? But I was gonna say, oh, why don't? But then I was like come home and have for you Dave for good for you. That would have been bad. And now by your reactions, I'm telling that is good. You chose wisely, sir. Your first things like, oh, let me just help out. And then I was like don't do that. Like, imagine my girlfriend. She's like, what are you doing like on editing for this girl who doesn't like me? That's getting banged another too much. I wanna do that. So anyways. So she's coming back to sapphire. And everyone's tag me so idea, and I was like, hey, if you're in town, again feel free to come by the office, whatever and another misconception about porcelain that I'm sure you know, we're not talked to this chick when I talked to any of them. I'm so like conservative the other side of like any bit flirtation. Yeah. People like oh. Yeah. Yeah. Who you d- inland? No nude legitimately. I'm more terrified of them than any girl lives. Every do tries to hit him up. Yeah. They've heard it. All you can't first off. I'm married. Secondly, she knows you have a girlfriend, right? And then third would cadence cadence will sometimes tell me some of the things that are going on behind the scenes, and they're like the furthest thing from hot. And I'm like, all right. Tell me that it's ruining. I'm just telling you. That's what's going on. Right. We she had an accident during an agency. And I'm gonna wanna know right now. I don't want to know it ruins the whole thing. It's legitimately like people. I just want that to be out there too. Because people like everyone the only thing with talking to porn stars dealing with the making content out of them people love to look down on it somehow like like. Absolutely. But everyone's like oh union as if you and I are the only ones funding billion dollar industries. Crazy people were oppressed. People repressed I have friends that that's girlfriends told me one time. Well, like, my I'm not almost said his name. Oh, he doesn't watch porn. I don't let them whatever. I'm like, I got bad because he's probably watched more than me because he about it. Yeah. Like, it's crazy anyways. So whatever people like to be like, oh, you, Jim and our creepy. No. No, no. I'm terrified of light any. So I'm like, I'm literally like the Siri like automated message. Hi, yes. Thank you. Don't say anything. So she was like, yeah. Sure. Whatever I'm like, I'm I think I'm friends with really this point, Mike. She's like, gif course. So she's like what time this day. I'm like, sure. So next thing, you know, like she's just coming by again. I'm like to comes by see you like, you know, when you meet someone famous and you're like, oh, a met them. But they don't really remember you. That's what I thought about her. And now, she's I guess sure. Whatever I'm like, I think not only did she remember me. I think we're like friends now all this stuff. So I've been blogging her all year. Right. And I don't think she watches this podcast. So I don't really whatever I don't ever want to be talking on two sides of my mouth. But there was some satires my boss, like, she's my friend. But when she did the like kind of friends steals the dog tweets, I don't know. There was I was making. It's funny. No. But I was taking a dead serious. Those who are not familiar with the tweets the back is I'm sorry. What the back we we were aware of. Well, I'm aware of she lost an award. I think in Tampa what had to be in Tampa. Yup. And this is this is when I was texting with Kate about it. And I go wanna roads like is tweeting out shit saying she wants to be clear that she didn't fall into Tampa Bay. And I'm like like, she's issuing statements about falling into this large body of water. I fuck happen. Because you won't believe it, you know. And so there was that. Okay. So we have the falling into Tampa Bay. We. Often play the audio Instagram being deleted. She wigs out. What is the thing about the dog steel, I'm sitting up at night? And I followed her when she followed me. But then I on because like on followed her when she didn't follow me. 'cause like I don't wanna be the guy. That's just creeping on were following her. And then she was I on. I guess saw that picture, and I know you have a girlfriend. Yeah. But I saw that picture. I'm kind of like, I feel like wanna of dig young page view. It's stripper syndrome had a play the he would do that with a guy who right sixty and three hundred fifty pounds. But I know shit. I look at that picture of mine, and we kind of up on you in that picture. Yeah. Like also, I would tweet stuff like something. I was like, oh, my family is gonna love you at thanksgiving. And she'd be like ha like, oh, I'm vegan. So make sure it's I don't worry. Like, I'll get the like tofu whatever we were like it was like, but once again see now, this is how men Br like man brains are so dumb. I could speak to you and say she's stripper syndrome like faking it, and I still in my head of mine. Yeah. But she did say. Did ever end much of that picture? So anyways, like literally, that's what I was thinking. So anyways, she started founder, and you never know. I mean, these porn stars a lot of them. They'll say some wild chanson times, I'm not trying to disrespect, but they sometimes like also is very like on the other end of spectrum where she's like the most normal person. Some of these girls will just blast off. Crazy also has written a book that like was in sanely success. She's so smart, she's like businesses and style fucking I need to get like I work for her. Okay. But so anything she told me she's like all right like. She she started tweeting, right? Lana. Lana starts tweeting. And she says what kind of friend steal somebody's dog. And it I I'm like this is just in. She's just add nowhere to the world. It was about eleven thirty five at night. And I just I'm like sitting up on my see this, and I'm like damn as deep. Lana. We're kind of friends steals a dog. I mean, you feel me that's probably a bad. That was my first answer. I was like probably a bad one. You know, like I was like what's next? He starts going off. She's like, I told you that you could watch my dog, I'm bought food. And now you steal it. Like all sub tweeting is that what's going on? She was yes, she was going on a rampage. So basically, the story was a friend of she flew out paid for all this stuff introduced to the industry Stoler dog. And that's something that I gotta be honest. I don't know anyone that's cool with that. Somebody's died. That's a bad, man. That's like gangster out of all the things you can do to someone. Right. You can't steal the dogs healer. She's holding captive. So now is this a stag star? Who would no I think she's I forgot the name but lands also big about she's like, this was the biggest thing to happen. So this girl, you know, what? I mean. It's like it's like when dre gets in a rap battle with some like little, dude. That's like the best thing to happen. It's absolutely launch down. Right. So this girl was like loving it. I think I've I was out the dog. But anyways, so starts going off. So I've logged it I was like what kind of friends feels like always like said for the love of God will somebody please give land roads the dog back. Right. And you could say there was some satire to it landed my friend, and I do think she should get a dog back. But that's a fair question. I was like all right. So people thought is very funny because it's like we started. I started blogging. Every ports are stories. If it was like a dead serious like news event that was happening like when she did. My friend. Well, kinda my friend the Nate, you know, of arsenal Nate, whatever he blog one about a Rhodes. She came back from injury to do AA no mending on the same day. I'm sure you're familiar a historic. That's that's that's the Jordan flew game of bag industry. That is tell me like not sound fun. So anyway, he blocked that making fun of her, and I became like the land of like PR person. So then when the Tampa Bay thing happened or didn't happen. Whatever went on. I was like did barstool Nate drive the mcdavid of dick into a downward spiral. Whatever. I'm like he started my we don't need. This is like a talent. That's you're wasting like why would you do that? So I came to a defense, and I tweeted at her I was like Len like stay strong. And she was like, thank you, whatever. So I was like all right now, I have to defend the wall, whatever. So every time this would happen. The dog the Instagram might give land roads are integrating come back. So people would kind of like love that and also page, views wise, like those it's crazy. Like you said everyone acts like they don't have their horrified. Those blocks do so many anything they've been amazing. He's asked there's a formula to it. It's interested in it. They just won't talk about it. Right. Like, but it was the note like it was probably one of my it may be my highest pace law. Get a lot of ro Tampa Bay know her doing the instability, and such like, somehow, it's crazy. It's like what is that about my work? So whatever the case may be she kind of became friends, and she's like, oh, you're like my mouthpiece like taking care of me in the media. And like not a lot of media like I don't know barstools media, but not a lot of places like cover porn-star fights. I think I maybe I was like the number one land of roads. Like news source of like. Nope. This is not what happened like let me tell you like give her dog back, whatever. So when she came back, right? It was Thursday night. I had this guy because ever on the whole outdoor thing. All fishy stuff. I had this guy in. I don't wanna say what it is. But he's like a high level like was the editor in chief of this like, really, big fishing magazine. He does. All these TV shows, and he like came in for meeting, whatever coolest guy and my. Hey, man, I'm Mike. Really sorry. I actually I gotta run right now, we have a guest coming in whatever. So he's like, oh, no worries man. Like, you know, his nice guy. He's like, oh, you got coming into my. She's thinking actress, whatever, you know. So we go down to the lobby. I'm like walking them in. She's walking in like seven inch heels all he looks like what he's thinking. It's some random girl. She's like, hey, what's up, and he's like, no. Introduced. This is my friend, you know, she prized even know like, there's fishing magazines, whatever so talk like the world's out of collided with that is crazy. So anyways, we go upstairs, we do the interview which leads me to the next point. She told me like after all these things I covered I went back through like thing by thing on my blogs was like tell me about this. It was minutes like sit down with the porn stars will ever get like, I have the info on her side. She's never told. She said she's like I've never spoken out about this. Whatever I'm like about the allegation that she fell into Tampa Bay. There's a lot that. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to say names, but Adriaan Chechik another pretty big. She was at war with right allegedly. That's who was in this incident, where I guess, you know, first of all she made it very clear as shitty award show. So as Lanta PR person land has mouthpiece, right? It was a bad show. We didn't even care about to begin with. So then I guess, you know, imagine this you get a bunch of girls who are like already kind of mercurial talents adjective talents. And I really like, you know, bland people. I think that's fair. You get them in a room. You start drinking, and then you have a ward given out like girls already hate each other sometimes like separately just from my getting in fights. Now, you're going to be like this girl's better than you. And it has to do with kind of looks, and like whatever you could see how tempers flare. So so Adriana one right and land law. I believe so and you know, they're kind of to say they're kind of like K D And LeBron type thing where they're more talents. And next thing August, they were own van, hypothetically, I don't know. I don't know what I'm supposed to say. But from the land roads PR side, she was I think she fell out of the van or was being dragged out and she was reaching back into try not to fall accidentally scratched Adriana in the neck. She was more just like, I think she was talking or crying and kind of came out the wrong way. People started trying to conspiracy against her try to make it look like she attacked her pretty down dirty dog stuff. I don't like. And next thing. You know, all these girls are tweeting. They got in a fight. She was trying to kill her choker. Good news. It wasn't. She was just like had her hand on her neck, and I guess there were scratch marks. So I mean big misunderstanding stand. She was falling out of a van and she reached back, and she got Adrienne checks neck. And that's where the scratch marks are coming from. You know, from my understanding, and listen, I got the interview wanna put out soon we're supposed to put out when it happened. But like we're doing it through Casey radio all this stuff. But it's coming out. And I may have had those details wrong. But let's Landon was not a fault. These girls are jealous conniving. And I gotta say I stay with laying on this one shoe. You already loyal soldier. There was a lot of Tampa Bay allegations and stuff about the actual body of water. I don't remember in the interview. But I don't think she said anything about that. So she does not deny that she fell into Tampa Bay. I honestly don't remember. Because when I was doing the interview I wasn't going to be like. Yeah. But what about that? How do you? Explain the kind of doing like just on the details. Bannon in grabbing on Adriana checks neck. You know touch. I don't know if you grab that sounds a little aggressive. I think it was an accident. More of like a hey, congrats on your ward. A whoops. I miss your hand. I don't know what happened to me that seems a lot more plausible than whatever. The other people are saying, and it was like if the blues do like a PR fees like by the blues, they're not going to be like skewer in their players. So in the interviews like, you know, what all sense in the world of me. Let's get to the. I'm not I wasn't really doing too prying questions. So maybe if like Asia on Chechik PR person wants interviewer, they can ask those questions, but that's not my. Rose guy. My role is let's let's get the story out there. The right store. How does your girlfriend feel about your report with Lionel roads? Honestly, honestly, she like let me say this to I love Lantis. She's great person. Like, I wouldn't want to date lane rose, no fence to her. But like, I'm not some guys are comfortable with that. It's like an entourage like vincis. I don't care how hot my girlfriend is. I'm just not comfortable with her and six other dudes hot take alert. Let me just tell you we take. So. Get too hot. But I'm not cool with that. So as much as everyone likes to my think, my girlfriend knows I'm not like looking to get married to land. If you're coming with Lanta roads, and you're sitting on the couch next year girlfriend. She does not go untilt about it. She well, she more Chirps me. Like, I was like oh shit. Like, wait, Rojas psych. Don't fuck like which is like fair. It's a fair spot. Right. She can't I don't know. But honestly is like corneas. The sounds like I hate being like this. But it's like it's good for me like every controversy or interaction. I have like she moves the needle, no matter. What? So why would I like shut the foot like if people think I like want to date or whatever it's like, I don't like let that happen. You know, like, it's good public. So it's hard for me. Because like, I think my girlfriend understands like when I did that Casey radio. So you get like two thousand followers in a day from me talking about interviewing this girl, which in the end benefits, my girlfriend had some level. So it's like how can she be that mad about it? Now, if the business part of business would absolutely think about actors, right like if actor had. Girlfriend. He's trying to make big. And then they're like, you gotta be a love interest with someone on like a movie, and you're going to get you're like you're going to get way bigger, you're gonna get more roles. Whatever it's tough for them to be like like hate that. Like, you kinda just have to like not grow up. But it's like that's just part of the boys. Gotta be done all actors entertainment, like not entertainment like we're all just trying to like make funny things and get people's attention. So that's kind of all it is. I think she knows that. Now, would you want to hang out with her probably not is she like asking me updates for known without it. But she's cool. She is long as if I started like really like flirting with her something like I think she'd be like that's enough. That's enough. Think about what we're talking about here. Like, I was deeming any like different chicks, you'd be even more. Right. You know, what I met us the girls part of your content. Right. Like the like some college chicken. You would be nuts. Right. Understandably so fair enough. I can't I had no idea. There was all this to it. I was like, yes. Seems like Lana put a nice picture out there. The to you crazy. Oh my God. This went like, you'll be captors deep. I'm very bad at telling sink store. No. I mean, the details so help you're enjoying the conversation with young page views. If you're a new listener to the podcast, welcome aboard. If you've been listening to all the interviews pick six questions from the audience. Now, you know what we do? And in our our sponsors make it possible. I can't get in a spot where I'm endorsing somebody who I don't believe in well for the last year, I've believed in James Carlton, and in part because I had an emergency situation with one of the companies cars for Iggy that I had to work with James Carlton. But then when I worked with James Carlton, I go, and there is a difference. I've been talking about it. But I've been working with somebody forever. 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His name is Ryan Kelly, and he is the sponsor of the studios here on the Tim Kernan show now back to young page views. So I gotta ask I've got to ask. I don't know you're friends with off boys. Right. Oh, I saw Harry a Friday in hockey bread. When he was before those are they're just bathrooms this podcast. Yeah. They're just happy. Good people. I've never really wand off. Yeah. We played in high school together. And like so you went to Whitfield. All right. And then where did you go to college? I went to Lawrence university in Wisconsin. It's like a small d three school tiny hockey purposes. Yes. So my parents my dad like they they wanted me to go to college straightaway. So like as a non hockey college. So so in hockey has, you know, some people no like juniors, you know, you like go play after high school. You can get a better deal D one or whatever if you're really good. You don't like you can go play in highschool point college. Yeah. I you know, I had a I was a good player. Whatever I'm not anything you say people are going to be like, no. So. You can't when you're right. You're right. I love playing hockey. Sometimes I'm better than others. I don't know. That's hilarious. But I was like all right. My dreams play. And then it show as anyone I didn't make it. So just case if you guys missed that part. I'm not, but the dreams alive, you never know the blues. Yeah. Call me. Absolutely. Might listen to the show. So anyways, I will play for free. So anyways, they were like all right? I got an offer from D three schools. You know, I was kind of looking at a few of them in one was like you can play here. My parents were like, go straight to college. Don't go to juniors whatever I could've told around in like was I good enough to play D one in some world say I go to juniors to have a huge year. Maybe have another under the right circumstances. You never know. You know, what I mean, it's like or I could have gone gotten scratched gotten hurt and never played anything. So it's like, it's just tough. So I went to Lawrence, and it was a tiny school the hockey. Like was we were good. But we're not like we when national championship type of thing. But it was one of those things that end up being a blessing in disguise because you never know where you're going to end up and going to college like at eighteen ended up being huge for me compared to some of my friends went, you know, you go play juniors to go to college twenty one year old. Yeah, that's a different experiences. Like, my my perspective on the world eighteen I was so like wide eyed and so excited that colleges them fun thing in the world to me because everything was exciting. Like, I was playing with guys twenty five seniors that have played for our three years juniors. I'm with all these guys are like my big brothers. I learned so much stuff. So it wasn't glamorous thing. I didn't put up big numbers. You know, when you're eighteen planning. It's twenty five year olds. If you really good maybe like, I didn't put up big numbers, whatever. But ended up being one of the most fun things of all time. Weirdly, like, I can't point to you. And be like it's the best school because of this because it's not no fence Lawrence. It's not the biggest school is not the biggest party, whatever. But I had fun. I'm grateful for it. So I don't know for years and Greg. Yes. So so then what do you do you come back to Saint Louis? So after that in in college, I'm the biggest person that's like I'm not gonna say didn't believe in the real world. But like I was in denial. That's the word. I was looking for the whole time. First of all when I'm in high school in like Brown when I go to that show. Like what what do you mean? Like, I never was going to have job in my mind. I'm like, oh, good. Like, maybe if I don't make any show have to play in like Europe or something that sucker the H L, but come on, you know, so then zoos you get to college and you can scratch and you're like sitting in the stands and you're like damn, dude. I might not. That's like and you're like, no big junior year. Nope. And then all of a sudden he's like it's like oh shit. So my freshman year, I get to college. And this was right win MAC Miller. Sam Adams all the white rather started coming out. So I'm sitting there, dude. I'm like this is going to be easier than I thought I don't even make the Joe I'm just going to be famous white rap. I started. I started making music right it, it's so fun. I still love like music is so much fun. Imagine you get a b- like I download off YouTube. Right. A bunch of wines about how the coolest and the bent all this in like if you listen to some of them talking about like driving like Farrar like what was I talking about? What is the thing? When you don't have like why in rapid is it like I'm sitting there. I'd be eighteen years old sitting in Appleton, Wisconsin, like I'm pulling up in the Homer, like whatever what are you talking about? I it's so fascinating like real rappers. Do it like people talk about stuff? They don't have. It's a crazy. Popping NASA's fades. What's so? Anyway, that's just a little like. It just hard to comprehend when you look. So anyways, I started making music and in college is tiny school all this stuff. I kind of had the syndrome of like, no one ever told me like, hey, dude, you suck like some people do. But when you're so sheltered in a small school suck as a musician anything. Okay. Like high school like even Whitfield's like great place iphone, but it's not as much of like Parkway center. I went to before that there's what like two thousand kids you're like of an in the Mason, whereas Whitfield like you have enough space to be your own personal stuff. So I was like in my head and Mike out Sidney Crosby. Now, I'm going to be like MAC Miller. And next thing. It's like I never had a time where someone was like like, for instance, we go on these a few things for barstool like we had this tour last year. I go these big state schools. Penn state. We went to Alabama few weekends ago. You really know who you are when you're there. You're like, I am nobody like there's a hundred thousand people your piss ant. You know what I'm saying? Like, you realize that when I'm never in that scenario, I thought. The man right, which is a blessing in disguise because like I had no self awareness. But I thought I was great though. That's now nice figured it out. Yeah. I suck at this. I'm gonna fuck. So it was kind of good. So I started rapping I started making music. So then I was like NHL is for the birds like you had to practice. I'm just going to be a famous rapper and then like to around it's going to be easy money. So I made my first song made music videos on YouTube. You can find it. I'm not gonna put out because it ain't the greatest thing. But it's called catch me if you can. And I was robbed. I was down onto the arch. All this stuff going Nellie, bro. It was. I mean anyway, and it wasn't like so I had made some songs that were like party songs that were like kids could play. And that's like that's one thing. This was like a like, I'm hard. Like, check me out. Look, how tough I am type thing. It's just a tough balance. When you look back your life. You can't you can't know what you were going to do back. Then that's the tough bound when you look back. And it's like, hey, man. I tried it. So I put this song out everyone at school. Lot of you will make. It fun of me, which in retrospect row, I would have been making fun of me so much. So they're making fun of you or you like the fucks wrong with these people. This is real ization who is this is fucked up. Welcome to the rap game. Those are the haters. Only people that don't like music or just the haters. They're trying to keep you down. 'cause you're getting so big. That's what I was thinking of Mike where were you getting big now? My head. I don't know. But I mean, I'm like man people hitting back Miller. People eight Drake might look this people. Make fun Drake. Of course. They're gonna make fun of me. But then it was like, no, they're just making fun of you. Because like you suck. But like, you know, what I mean? So then I started making more music, more music, whatever. So that was like my thing for college and like to I'm not gonna have to worry about after this. I'm in I'm finished college. Like, I remember distinctly in my brain being like fuck, man. This is so fun. Like if I don't come back from junior year. Like like, you know, I'm like I'm gonna have to be on tour. I'm not gonna be able to go to college. I bless my heart. I dead serious. They were starts like maybe I'll finish it later in life like back to school. Rodney Dangerfield thing whatever. So whatever some getting to the end, the college, whatever RAB game not for me nicely. Put not music, videos and take six months on them. They get five hundred seven hundred fuck, you know, what's going on like. Any one of these is going to be the one, you know, it's like whack-a-mole I'm going to get it. So anyways next thing, you know, I did graduate which was just a day ahead. Not prepared for tough. You know, you're like standing there in the robe, and you're like shit. I didn't think I was going to have to do this. And now, I got nothing so come home. And I told my parents, my listen, I need six months to focus on music as if like in college, I did anything but sit in the studio that's all I did like so that my dad was like, okay. Like, you can do it. And I cried I remember I was in the studio that call him before I left because of course, I stayed at school like two weeks extra to finish my mix tape, my whatever. So crying was like thank God. My parents recognized my dream, so I get back from college. And it was maybe a week before. My parents are like get a fucking job. I wake up at like noon. I'd be like sorry. Sorry guys was writing lyrics late last night, whatever. And then I'd like go to the park, and then do whatever and like it legitimately. I it was like an hourglass like they said six months to work on music like they would help me whatever. And it was the shortest thing all time, which I can't blame them part of me. It's like you guys went back on the deal. But it's also like when you're like a parent, and you see your son, you just pay for like college. They're like, hey, man. We'll do the south like we'll send you to college. He comes back. He's like, hey, guys. You guys keep the noise down at like eleven thirty. They're cutting the grass it might. Hey, guys. Actually got a big studio session tonight. So just keep it down. I see and I was going on trips and stuff. It wasn't like I was like the way like literally like going on flow trip, and I was like out with my friends, and I was like so understand my so I went I interviewed a million places. Right. As was twenty fourteen. And I was like I did not want to go get a job in like, a, you know, sitting office all this stuff. It was like the most terrifying thing to me because at that point. I thought I was like admitting that I wasn't going to make like a lot of stuff is funny as it is when people play juniors for longtime or even like when I was in d three whatever the dream is alive. They call it the dream and hockey same thing like music. I was like the dream is dead. If I give up on that and go do something else, which I do know isn't true, plenty of people work jobs, almost everyone who's famous was working jobs while they did it. But I was like I can't do that. But I had to like get something. So my dad would be they have like customer services done this whole. My grandparents everything it's like family thing. It's like in my bones. So all right. I went on monster dot com or indeed. Or what's the thing? I don't know whatever one of those jobs jobs customer service. So I go, and I started interviewing I had finally my parents I had to go to my grandparents house to go do it. Because my parents are going to kill me. Right. I was like I literally was hiding and I got like fifteen interviews. Right. This was maybe September, October whatever and I had it lined up. I was so proud as like, hey, get off my back. You know, like look at us. I'm doing my thing. I show up to these interviews, and you know, as you can tell like casting, call stuff on monster dot com is not going to be the most glorious thing when you get in. So I show up. There's like twenty five people in the waiting rooms. They you'd go in like who are you over like, I'd like plead. My they'd ask you questions like was trying to do the right thing. And it was one of the most sobering days in my life because these jobs like they were like, and they won't even call me back and anything, and I'm like, it was really like depressing because you can't always have yourself in this elevated light everyone kind of star. Are of their own movie. I feel like no one's like I'm just a bum. And these were like bummed things. Like not that any of that's wrong. They treated me like an idiot, which is I was like fair enough. But like I went to all these places and they were like in danger office buildings like in the middle of nowhere. Like, it would like renting sweets out of a whole thing. And I couldn't even get a job there. Now, it's like, oh, man. Like, this is messed up. So then I actually had interview with riverfront times who is like, obviously, pretty big. What would you say top three paper in Saint Louis top two? I mean, it was like a reputable I was like, oh, man. We're going gonna be doing like seller. I so in my mind like once again, I was always too scared to officially be like, I wanna write are. I wanna be the guy who's like you're selling. So I was going to do ads sales for them. Right. And I went through all the interview process, and they actually were like do you want to like you want to work here? It was like I had offer and it was more money than I'd like not a lot, but I was living at home for zero dollars. So I was like I'm going to be Richard ever. And I was trying to talk myself into. With all this stuff. It they're in the loop. I'm pretty sure right now. I live pretty far from there at the time. And they like, you gotta be at seven whatever, you know. I'm like, I said sleeping to noon like writing radical night fog at like that seems really hard. And everyone was so proud of me, my grandparents everyone had done ads. You know, they it's not like uncommon thing. A lot of people done it. And I was like my my girlfriend told her parents they're like finally Bennis job. Good job will stuff. And then eventually I was like I couldn't do it. You know? I was like I cannot do it. Because I don't know what it was. But it's like one of those miracle things that like in like that is a good job. Like, I I probably should have taken it all things considered. But I just felt so weird. I'm like I cannot because like I would have had no time to do anything else. This was a real like big boy job. Right. And I went back on the unemployment, you know, a gay on employment. And I said, no everyone's like, you're such an idiot. What are you doing? Like, you can't you can't be unemployed and say no to job like, it's. Crazy. So I ended up working for a guy. My dad has so they make like customer service training videos. Right. His which I've starting people dig him up all the time. A caller on thing. But like I've been people like tweet him through him like sky looks like, you know, I was a customer service training actor so he had done a shoot. With one of these directors down off grand like I told her, and I was like I'm just going to be whatever I can learn about shooting, videos, whatever because my whole thing was like, I'm just going to shoot my music video. So anything that I do is just like intil that blows up. So I started working as that. I was basically if I may know money like very little they did pay me. But I was like chump change, whatever. But I was living at home, whatever. And I just learned about how to make videos. How could I make music videos with the lighting? What cameras what how do? You edit all this stuff. And I was like fascinated every single day. I'd go home and Schumann videos. I shoot him on the weekends my girlfriend, this why when the land stuff understands my girlfriend filmed, my music, videos, my mom would fill my music videos. You wanna talk about a sobering moment here life. You got to be a rapper talking about all these aren't I don't have and how much swag I have. And how many? Girls. I get and your mouth in the lyric in your mom's behind the camera. I swear to God, you cannot have a more serious moment in your life. Then when you look, and she doesn't want to be there looking mom. She's like if I don't help them. Nobody. And she's standing there filming literally holding. I'd be like mom, I like this. This is the shot. You know, I'm trying to lineup. Go dance around about this seat. I actually like it kills me that I don't have someone else filming that if I had the video someone and we'd be like public, you try to go to cool places to look cool in my mom is filming. So it was the gutter duty as far as trying to be cool. It's bad. And then I'd go home. She's like house my house my shooting. I'm like, then you're trying to be a cool. I'm cool rapper and like mom thought asking me about this like you're gonna make not cool tough in like, you know, blowing up it was so bad. Oh, man. So anyways, so credit like I was getting a lot of us. But in my mind, I was good at like engineering. What would get used or what like the ideas? Right. Like, I studied music industry, everything every. Every music person that came out of my it was kind of like a business. You know, you look at the market. What's working? What's not there, whatever? And then like little Dicky came out to you know, that like the this guy's a little Dicky's literally everything I was trying to do. It was like I told him. It was like you were in like your hut like making a bomb like the union bomb like fusing, you're learning how to do all these manuals. And then you look on the news. And you're like you see. This built my mom like I'm in here in the woods like and I'm telling you knew no one cared. But like, I'm not tell you. I don't know. My sister, watched them my music videos. It'd be like, hey, check this out at something. Right. Then no one cares. So I see this guy doing we'll take you all these people. And I'm like, oh, I was mad. And this is the best part. I'm so mad at this guy in my dad knew my dad looked at me. He's like. Little Dicky, man. Tame literally my dad be emailing. Look how good this video. I know how good it is. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm like. So. Happening. People are gonna m I am in. And I would look up stuff like a man like to chains like thirty eight. He didn't blow to thirty two. This is my it could happen. You know, I got plenty of time. So anyway, always a good thing to think when you're trying to do something I got six seven years to make happen. So no. So anyways, I was always trying to like think about what would work what would work because to me it is kind of a binary thing somewhat. I know some people like do and this is business. This anything. This is radio, you know. But to me it somewhat of a binary at least in this day and age a lot of times, music wise, you need some sort of like viral or big moment. Most people I would say they go big or like look at like sports. It's very tough. If if you play in the HMO for like seven years, it's tough to be regular NHL player people pencil stuff all the time. So I was like the fact that I'm at zero right now, it doesn't matter because as soon as the switch, flips whatever. So I kept making them. And Meanwhile, I started reading barstool in two thousand nine my dad used to try to. Tell me by two thousand and eight thousand nine your dad was telling you about my dad had a friend. I believe that was from Boston or something that told him he would show me this guy out president stuff. I was like dad what is this shit? You know, your shows you something I'm like, it was an also Barsa with like the girls smoke shows, whatever it was weird that my dad like he would send me an article and I'd see like these hot chicks. And I was like I'm like dad, I don't like the shit. Stop sending me these weird hot girl website. Like, I don't want us to be sending me this. What I mean? I'm like seventeen years old. It's weird. So I've been reading it everyday. Like, I'm telling you obsessed because and this is not anything about the truth. Borsa was literally like what I learned humor on like kind of like all my friends like hockey guys like everything that we were Dave and all them like Barsial was like better than what we were. If if that makes sense like what all how my me, and my friends talked like the lingo the way we thought about stuff he did it to like the better degree. You know what I mean? So I was obsessed with it. And and at some point and you become obsessed. Okay. So two thousand ten was my dad's are telling me for years. I would I want to go back to my old Email and find it I've tried, but it's like, I don't know the logging all this stuff. He would send me articles like two thousand eight thousand nine so two thousand ten was when I started reading every day when I was going to college right because kinda wanted to be cool and for some for some reason, that's when it stock right? And I've searched from those like like bars posters in two thousand nine. So like, this is all true. So out. Would read every day. And that was back when now we have a million bucks a day. Right. Dave would right? Every day. There'd be like eight blogs, you know, ten blogs. And it was you read every single blog like if he wrote like three paragraphs now, it's like the only not must watch. But like, we know there's certain stories that people just if you don't care about it. You're not going to click on it. This was in the time. Like wooded KFC say about this. You know, like you wanted to get the take of like, and that is still true for certain people. Like if Dave Baker KFC blog, you wanna see what they say. But if I'm writing about like antelope falling down mountain most people probably just watch the video and click, but that's the nature of the internet. Now, it's more of a views big number game. So anyways, I'd read every single thing. I was obsessed with it went to college. I've a lot of time sitting in class at night, everything I read every single thing. So I started becoming like not a professor. But like I knew every storyline. Every video like almost to the point where now, I know these guys have to act like I didn't 'cause it's a little much. Like big cattle turt- me, and it's hard for me to like make fun of him back because he knows that. I studied as entire life for like five years. So it's tough. So anyways during this time or back to back to two thousand fifteen now, I've been reading barstool nonstop right Twitter, everything like every tweet big Aetna mate. I've read every single one. So I was like I knew them more than they knew themselves like in a weird way. Because when you're in the position as you know, like when you did it last yesterday. Right. You don't even remember what he said because you're living when you're watching it I can quantify like here's what you did. Right. So I know what they did. I was studying him. So as we get to this time, right? I'm back and making music videos and I worked for a year twenty fifteen at that production company. Right. And I was getting guys caught like, so I'm seeing these people do the acting, and I just want to be in front of the camera all this stuff, but I'm terrified because it's like not terrified because I wasn't ready for it. You don't want someone to be like, you're not good or like, oh, you're you're a behind the camera guy. You're. This like I was like fuck, man. But like in my head every shoot we shoot every week, and you'd have these actors, which no fence now bums, like, you know, local commercial actors on the low end are always like the greatest actors, and I'm sitting there getting them coffee in like, you know, helping them like whatever like picking up their trash, and I was like fuck like I need to like be these people or bigger, you know, I'm like it was so frustrating 'cause in my mind, I always wanted to just like make stuff and have people care. What you say? Right. So I would make my music videos ever. But it was always kind of like behind the scenes like I wasn't like going out one thing that I think I was bad at is putting my stuff out there. Like, you see certain artists they're like look at us. They're out on the street. They're handing out stuff. I was kind of like mysterious. But not because it was like cool mysterious. It was like I was afraid to put it out to anywhere that wouldn't like it. So I showed to my family, friends, whatever. And that's the only people that had ever heard of what I did. So it's tough. I wasn't growing whatever. So then twenty sixteen comes around. It was kind of like a year. Internship, kind of so wasn't like a full-time employment. So we get it was supposed to be done in December. And I just didn't say anything he's kept working there till like March. And like finally, they were like, hey, can we have a meeting with you, whatever? And this lady I talked to her textures. She's a nice lady of all time. She's like, so Ben he said a year, and it's now March, so I think couple of weeks, I think we'll be your last day, whatever. And I'm like, what do you mean? I'm like, oh, no not in a bad way. But like, it was a year thing is, you know, she was like if you want to keep doing like it was fine. Totally like part of things basically like it's like the end of a summer internship. I was basically stay until fall. Okay. Like because I just had nothing else. I didn't know what I was going to do. So I was like fuck, man. Like now, I'm really, you know back in the same spot. So, but at this point I've worked for a year, my parents family, they know I'm not a complete bum leg at least. I've had a job. You know what I mean? So. So I started I had a at the places working. We had a drone, right? So I started messing with it. Whatever I was like, I had a friend. That was doing it. I'd seen people online whatever Mike you can new drone videos for money like Ariel of houses real estate. Now. It's pretty common at the top fifteen twenty six as just coming up. So I bought with like all of my money. And like the good news was I wasn't getting paid a lot. But when you live at home like I eat, my mom, eat eggs for breakfast. My mom bought from the grocery store. I the dinner. My parents like they'd get me something pocketing like ninety five percent of my pay. Which was now that live in New York makes anyway, so next thing, you know, I bought a Drome a my my buddy names, like, very, entrepreneurial hustle. He's like do just do it just like commit to make a website start doing free videos, and I was like all right. I'm all fired up right start doing drone videos. I film them out film everyday. Like, I was the best drone pilot, not like to be cocky, but I took pride in it. I would film three batteries morning night. I could zip. It in and out of the studio, whatever. But as you know, being a entrepreneur most of that is not learning how to fly a drone. It's getting clients. You can be the best guy Louis those people most real estate agents, the only ones that really cared about it enough already had people that were like opens the idea and the people who didn't like I've been selling house like this for thirty years. I take a picture people. Come. I don't need your stupid drone video in my friend that I went to college the to this kid was making like they would go down to Miami. Do these ten million dollar houses? I think he was making like two or three grand video, and they would go down for a week like five houses day, whatever you can add up. He was paying his tuition in cash. So I'm like, I'm like, dude. This is it, and it's a, you know, you're you're not working for anyone you're so I was like this is what I'm going to do. And I still didn't have to face the music of like sitting at a desk, doing whatever. So couple months into the drone business. I had about zero sales which is tough all his stuff when you're making zero sale as your own. Boss. So I would go on the internet, whatever. And that's another thing where I was. I was good at being shifty. Like, my parents. I'm like I'm looking for clients like I go to Starbucks, and I would Email people, but I was really just buying time to not be like scrutinize my, hey, like stop. I'm trying to book these drone video. I'm going to the park the think about new ways videos, so I'll go everyday fly. My I was kind of my own schedule. And is also in part, my take I launched to listen to every episode like that was like that time. Just remember I remember that the first episode with air horns everyone's so Alison to it anymore. 'cause like now, I'm with them all day. I get fights with Hank every day. So I can't like whatever. So. Next thing. You know, I got one client, and this is like my friend's mom would like a clothing business, and it wasn't even really drone as more like filming on a tripod. But it was like I was like all right. I'm getting up steam, whatever I think she felt bad for me. Honestly, she's like all right? And I went to stay at his house in Chicago. And she was like, yeah. I guess you could film this. My awesome some clients. Like, I'm I'm moving and I had a few realtors. They're like, yeah. You know like it was dry. So now get into like September October or no, yeah. August-september? I took my own pilot's license. FAA certified pass the test is very hard. You have to like know everything like airport, you know, like the altitudes. Everything's very hard. So I took it, and I'm like all right now, I'm gonna be legit because there's that was the excuse like, oh, well, I don't have the official license. So I can't get that many jobs as soon as I get that. And it only opened September first. So I had the whole summer to prepare for the test. I was just a master at like not facing the real world. So Finally, I get the tests still no. Drone, videos, whatever and my girlfriend likes. She would come to Saint Louis, this whole time most supportive like she's stuck me through everything. But there was times where she was like so like in during this whole time, making music, videos, all stuff, she's like, so like, I believe in you, and you're going to do it. But like you might have to get a job. Just in the meantime, she was like how are we gonna live she she graduated college and got a job right away. Like, no one person. And she's sitting, you know, come visit me, I'm like in my boxers like all day, and she's like can you like maybe just try, you know, when I'm like, baby. Like, would you believe or not? You came. Yes. I do. I do like them. Just trust me. I'm going to make it work. You know, even though she's probably like, what are you going to do to make it work because they're not doing anything? So eventually I was sitting there, and I had a few. I put this album out that I've been saving like year because once again, you don't put the album out. You can't officially have it not blow up. So I was sitting on it for like two years so September twenty ninth of two thousand sixteen I put this album out like heritage, folks. Let's go we've been waiting. It's time for the big time. It was like, you know, the kind of thing where he said, and you guys probably know this because you weren't pretending that you're gonna blow up like he always tells the story where like the last time he went to the mall before college dropout came out. He's I'm not going to be able to do this anymore. And I in my head. I'm like, hey, man. You know? It's gonna be fun to play mentally while. I can't put it out crickets. Nobody cares. I mean, it was like literally nobody or like they're like ten people waiting for this shit. Oh known was waiting to. No one was waiting like that. Let me be clear there was when I say, yes. Ten people tend to be with my friends like to this pretty good, man. Like, I loved it. And then they'd played it like their pre-game, send me videos, and like, you know, feels good. But it was ten people that were like obliging, they weren't like fun. You know, like no that never that's still has your artist's name, by the way. Oh, man. I went as Ben Freeman for awhile. Because that's another thing. I was like I don't have to have a fake name. Like, I'm gonna do it like me, you know. But then I started. So I had a tag, you know, like Rick Ross like me back music like all give like tag, my girlfriend recorded twenty twelve. It was like it's freely baby thing, I'll play it for you. I'll give you an MP three. That was like my name. I thought I don't know. Listen credit. I at least tried. But hey, man, it is what is so. Anyway, it's tough to let go into your dad like I play hockey. It'd be like my dad's friends, we're like successful business people. And I'm like, yeah. Like you got to check on my song. So I'll go on YouTube. It's freaky baby. And it's called by God champagne or something. So I put it out nothing. So I started this is like the first time that I really was like all right, man. Like, you know, you look in the mirror and after seven years of all that was the first time, and I was like all right? So I used to walk in the. Woods every day in the morning. Which was I wish I could do that. Now, New York, and I was sitting there, and I just have to find a way because I would make songs and I'm like I'm going to get this on barstool. I loved Barzel, and I was making music, but I was like I have to do something that they will blog. Right. So I had to do I had made music videos before the hadn't do it. But Finally, I was like I'm going to do so Caleb at the time this dude, who's now, my friend another thing where it's like embarrassing where you're friends with someone now that you were like authorizing not idolizing but like trying to get their tension desperately. So he was like the music guy. You know, he like, I don't know Ivan whatever, but he would like podcasts have a lot of rappers on it, whatever. So I was going to make a song called like something about Kayla Presley in the name because I'm like, they're bloggers. They're whatever he will pay like for the love of God, at least they will see this. You know what I mean? So that was like, my engineering of like, all right? They'll he'll at least blog it like, oh someone made a song called me. I'm like, I'm I have to get on Barcelo. And in my mind, it was I'm going to get on Barcelo to blow up as like music person not to get a job, which of course, my dad was like, hey. Moron. Like, you should try to work there. And I was like I was too scared. You know was intimidating place to like try to work at because you think they're going to be like you suck. You know? Like, those guys are Dave is very funny. And like he knows what's not funny immediately like in. He'll tell you like. Yeah. That's just not funny. You know, what I mean, so terrified? So I was walking in the woods crazy enough October twenty seven twenty six teams yesterday. Not like I went in the woods yesterday and did the same walk to commemorate. But anyway, so this is my own weird OCD of like that kind of stuff was walking in the woods. And I had a line where I was like I feel like ours. Like, I'm really like young patriots in two thousand five because I Dave David page views, whatever you guys familiar with that. 'cause people think I made of that name that was like his name Davey page views, and I was like the same way that Dave in two thousand five with barstool like there was no indicator of success at that point that it was going to work and now he's like at so that was like my line, whatever. And then in the woods it just click. I was like walking. I was like I should make a song about that. Like full. Caleb offensive like Dave will pay attention to. So I wrote the entirely so the thing I was like oh shit. Like, this might be like crazy. Like, it's crazy how that works. But I was like I've so obsessed with barstool. I knew all the jokes all the storylines that the leagues were easy to come to. Because all I did was reversal all day everyday. I'm telling you, I read every blog like, maybe not read the entire thing. But I would skim it a look at like videos read, everybody combustible. So I wrote the song that night recording. My mom's car, I was like oh, man. Like most of the time when I'd have songs, I delay delay. I knew this was different. Because I I never just went and did stuff like out always like delay record records next week. It's going to be huge. So I did it then I was sitting there. And I was like I came home. I told my dad was like, I think I changed my life. I think you know, and he's like our high buddy he's heard that shit before. It's like eat, your broccoli tonight could good jobs, and you know, and I was like no data my dad trust me. This like, you know, he's like he's like thinking about like the seven. He'd drive me to something to fill me like at night. And I'm like. Bliss like, honestly shower to my mom dad because they have a lot of patients for someone that maybe didn't deserve all business. But so venture I was like then I was like dad like classic, Mike. It's not just the song. I'm making music video you know, like and at first he's like just put it out like stop at the always get mad. And he's like, it's always one more thing. It's always one more thing. So whatever he helped me and because he was such a barstool fan. So he helped me with the video. So we made this video whatever, and I was waiting to it took a while to edit like we had like all these scenes, I was like I'm going to reenact every barstool moment because I knew reverse engineering of this like what does barstool like you have to know the inside jokes. You have to know like the history of it is kind of like we cover stuff, but Barcelo is kind of like the point of it isn't just to cover the news. It's like two. Really just like it's almost its own show. You know what I mean? So like stuff happens throughout it. But it's like more like how like the manhunt thing with the Boston bomber like the fact that David big we're up all night on the police scanner doing it is the story. Not just that. There was a bombing. You know, so it's more of like the context. So I knew that they had to know that I knew that they were hiring because it was like they just been bought earlier that year sounds like if I like put all these elements together, it's pray together gonna like it. So I put it out November fifteen and it did well like they post on the site. KFC Rome was the first one to respond shout out the road who did not have to do that. Who's now? One of my good friends. I love him. But KFC responded next thing, you know, Dave tweets, and he was like this is the fire jam which obviously I knew Dave like he is his own like biggest PR firm. So like I knew if I made some that about him. He would like respond to it at least. And then the fact that he was pumping it up because it was kind of like in to him that was kind of all. Like part of the plan. Right. Like, it's like, I knew he'd pay attention, whatever. So he's pumping it up, Casey all stuff. And I'm like I was sitting. I was in Chicago visiting with my girlfriend, whatever she's at work. My job bless her. Parents on sitting in my underwear and their guests room all day, dead serious like editing these videos when I dropped it. I was sitting I might have been naked in bed under the covers in my laptop. Like, what do you picture when they do the like a blog of blogger like memes, or it's like all the shifts like literally in bed propped up against the thing. Like so put out and I'm like, I swear to God. Like this one of those things that no one can ever like see because it was like cameras over. I literally fell down when I saw it on the front page bar sports. I saw my face. I I know I'm like being like whatever I'm sorry for like talking so much about this. But like I literally fell down like I was like. Legitimately was like, oh my God. Like, it's the first time in my life like after all these music, videos, all this shit hockey owes things. No one gives a fuck at all in. Finally, I was like this is the idea this was going to happen. And I look, and I see all these tweets the tweets are one thing, but Twitter, you know, you never know what's going to. And I see from Brussels sports dot coms. Like, this is the fire jam young patient. And it's me, and my parents basement we film that and I'm like legitimately, dude. I've like I don't do drugs. It must be what it's like to be on like acid. I could not believe what I was saying I fell down I call her look, look more. So like, I'm on there. Like, whatever stunned, right? So they did the radio show that day. I'm not saying whatever code people called in. And we're like, what do you think this Davis? Like, oh, like, whatever. He's like, I don't think he was trying to get a job. I think he was just trying to like, you know, some rap guy looking for some burn. That was his exact words, and I was like fuck because my dad's like dude you have to get a job there like also because he's like what else are you going to do? But at the time, I just wanted to get big whatever. But in retrospect, one music video that was a barstool parody probably wouldn't have done the job. But anyways, so it had more views than I'd ever mom talking. My my videos, get four hundred views real talk first day that like hundred eighty sometimes whatever decide fifty thousand views from the time I posted it to like dinnertime, and I'm like, I came into scribe to you. What that's like, you know, what I'm saying? It's like you can't process your brain. I'm like, oh my God. And honestly, it's almost underwhelming because it doesn't feel that much better. Because you don't even know it's like it went up five hundred at a time. It's just instant you're like, so I saw the power of the platform. And at this point, I'm Mike. Oh my God. I have to get on the somehow. Right. So. I had like a couple of people were calling in. He was like, oh, I don't think whatever. So I tried to call in. Luckily, the phone lines didn't go through probably wouldn't have got the job if I'd gone through if you'd call them to the radio show. I mean, I don't know if I was like, hey, what do you think? And I agree with you. Honestly, think about that. Like, the mystique of who was this kind of helped me, right? I didn't do it on purpose. It was like who's this? Crazy. Holy ruins the perception of if you like pimping your own shit in trying to be like, what do you think? Like, can I get a John Doe? You're done legitimate. They need to come after you. I was in the audience has to want you. Yes. One hundred and like, I was actually Johnny Llandough who you mentioned earlier talk about like he was there when it was like who would help me whatever he booked drone video to do. You know, the lot and everything and like that actually is a car, you know, they can use in their commercials. I think that was a good video. I did. I'm not saying, it's charity. But who was there to buy one from me when no one would he's like, all right? Let's do Germany whatever. So I was coming back from Mondo. Off. And I was calling. This was the next week. Same thing. I would call you could see my phone every single thing was the barstool hotline couldn't get in. So Finally, I had the idea before I made the music video separately kind of odd deficient everyday to like, I'm obsessed fishing. All that like, that's my favorite thing in the world. So during my time of underemployment droning, I'd go drone lakes, and then he was like fish. I thought of our saw doors, or this is my niche because you know, they have people to cover hockey, they got business right way. Not at the time. But like if way bigger people than me, cover hockey, so I wasn't going to get in like that just being funny. Like, you got to be funnier than Dave big, whoever that's a tough or two. And I was like I can do outdoors at the market. It's a thing that no one has like once again, I was like reverse engineering like if I'm Dave. And I'm hiring people. You got to have something. That's we don't have an here's what I can do. So I'm like, I can edit videos. I can shoot them. I could be on camera. I can write please. So I started making stuff, and Dave followed me this was. Thursday. I put it out believe Tuesday Thursday, which to me when someone follows you on Twitter, Mike, he's gonna start nothing. So I messaged him in our thought he was going to respond to I've never been more scared in my life messaging L president after I read every single blog. He wrote for seven years. I had this whole thing. This whole spill nothing. Right. And I when I sent it we went to golden corral had never been. There was like kind of like whatever we can say going crowd. I'm the whole time way from my phone off. He respond to weeks. Go by message. Again, I kept making like other videos. I may like a cartoon all stuff, Mike, please. Let me just have interview. 'cause I'm like if I get in front of him. I can tell them what I wanna do whatever finally after three weeks he responded to. So what do you wanna do come in for an interview? I mean, I'd send him twenty messages begging. He their New York. I'm like I will fly there tomorrow. Whatever. Like, and I'm like, yes. Like with like a yet. What do you mean? So then I'm like, yes. Like, I will come whatever. Like, and I had a whole stick. Wasn't like being this thirsty. I was like like the show's coming to New York. I gotta whole stick like trying to be barstool west. So enduring this time I'd been filming outdoors stuff like Lono park. Like not that we know that's not exotic. But like anywhere. I could go to the zoo. All these things I was like standing next to elk like, those things that lone oak are nice. They should Gord me. I'm like doing man on the street with all the stuff. So I've been building up videos. I went to Florida talk about like, I would go on these trips. I'd have three hundred dollars in. My Bank had booked the flight for like two twenty and like literally eat off like Kraft singles, and like it was such a non sustainable way of life. But anyways. So finally, he was like, okay. Next Tuesday works. It was a Friday. So my next Tuesday like my old brain of like not ever wanting to face the music all he means next week Tuesday. I got plenty of time. I'm shoot these videos. Finally, I was like, dude. It's this if you miss it and he met this Tuesday. It's like, you gotta go. So this was Friday. And I was with my mom was filming me doing these animal videos, another sobering moment. Run like L. Yeah. Like, david. She's like what did he say that? On like, I'm trying to be cool. So I got my friend, Jamie. Who's one of my close friends? I saw unless I and I was like dude we're gonna drive to New York because I knew the whole they liked the story Mike, I'm gonna drive them to make a documentary about trying to get a job at bar. So which they all barstools very interest no-one done anything like that. There was no behind the scenes, there's no nothing. It was still kind of a wild west. All right. Here's our sopranos moment for cutting it right there because we have part two coming up. Now, you might be mad at me. You might be mad at me. But there's still another like hour and twenty minutes or hour and thirty minutes to go with young pages. So I set at the start it's going to be a two parter and the next part will air week from Sunday, which would be November eleventh. Now, you might be listening to this post November eleventh, and you're like, oh sweet now, I can just go right into it. It's kind of a Netflix thing. But we released new interviews once a week. And so we this is our first two parter and your. Page views goes into his interview at barstool, and then the barstool environment the barstool controversy. We have a conversation on the stories that are written about barstool. So all of that is coming up in partout with young page us very grateful for him coming in. And and I think you will enjoy partout as we get into his interview barstool and how he got the job and now his time up there, and then, you know, obviously barstool favors for some as a source of controversy. So you'll hear that coming up in part to thank you to our sponsors for making the podcast possible. 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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 212  QFTA

The Tim McKernan Show

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 212 QFTA

"Yes. Yes. Welcome. In to another dish in the mckernan show on the inside S T L podcast network from the home loan expert dot com studios. I am your host Timothy Michael mckernan. Look who's on the ones and twos. Everybody's gangster Pete. And he waves and we're back in studio together Pete for tuna and feels good man are good. Knowing goodness of your face. Yeah. I think you're being serious, right? I don't know why. But I appreciate it back here in Saint Louis, and I will say that just real candidly. And it's got nothing to do with. It's got nothing to do with Saint Louis versus like Palm Beach county or anything like that Florida. It's just I hate the cold so much that that's what I dread about leaving. It's not like, it's all I mean, hell, I'm see my family and friends and my guys here on the show and all that stuff. Plenty of restaurants that I'm looking forward to getting back into in Saint Louis and baseball and golf here and blues playoff hockey. I love. But I just like because last April when I came back with so cold on my mind. I'm like, oh my God. It's going to be thirty degrees. And while it's certainly not like seventy five or eighty with no humidity. Like it was there. It's bad. It's not bad. And so, you know, I'm back. And he he no matter what within a month. It's going to be pretty good. And and that's the best time. But the weakest sports that's coming up. I love like if I is. And I love college football. And I might love college football more than anything at this particular moment because it doesn't necessarily rely on whether or not Missouri is good. I love watching college football either way. And I don't really feel that way about any of the other sports with the exception of golf, but I don't have a localized interest there. So I look forward to next week where you have cardinal baseball going on blues playoff hockey going on in the masters. It's for me the best plus, psychologically. I was so no that the warm weather's coming in. So that's my reason for being being on a high with regard to that. Now for those of you who are TMA listeners. I know an it's certainly a focal point of a number of the questions today for questions from the audience for the first time, I believe now if somebody wants to crack me on this. Like, buck Swope would know the answer immediately. But I think for the first time since the cat was let go in two thousand seven January of two thousand seven which we've talked about quite a bit on questions from the audience. And I think we were talking about on TMA last week. Actually, we have a spot here where somebody we all want to be on the program and somebody who wants to be on the program is not on the program, and that is the plough hawk and in that is of course. Oh, I don't even know what the right way, it's a bunch of words, but the, but candidly, Pete, and I were talking before we got got going here from the home loan expert dot com studios now reunited in Saint Louis Ryan Kelly online at the home loan expert dot com, all my word rates low. This is a Dame changer. This is a game change. Whether you're gonna refire you're going, you know, what we're going to buy a house, and then you're going, oh, maybe we ought to expedite that process. Do so at the home loan expert dot com, the world has changed over the last couple of weeks, and it is a to your benefit if you are buying a home Ryan saying that they're getting rates back in the threes that they can lock in the home loan expert dot com. But now that we're United we're talking about and in real candidly. And I know now this is kind of like a a charged word we'll say hot button, but a charge word. And and so I'm careful when I say it, but but Brill, honestly, I if not in the clinical sense, but just mentally and emotionally, I'm depressed. With the plow hawk not being part of the show. And there's really nothing else to say outside of that. I am truly innocent. You know, it's now been it's been a week actually since the whole process started. But you know, we've done to TMA's at this moment without him. And listen the guy who's filling in for Lucas is a great guy. I would I would buy stock on Lucas as far as just because he's got great head on his shoulders. Good person, you can tell he's smart and ambitious, and I know a work hard. But you know, the plow boy was a big part of this show. And and there's there's there's no way around that. And so that's a there's a void of void from drop standpoint. Avoid from his personality standpoint. Also, we just all really liked him. You know, we with this with this group of six people as I always say, it's not like we hang out. I don't know. I guess Peden Iggy. And the plow boy played golf together. But you know, it's not like we all go. Hey, let's or you going, right? You wanna get drains? It's not the way that it works. Probably like most people in there. You know, thirties forties. Fifties sixties sound like they're hey out working together, the Suming that they are, you know, at least some of them are married with kids or in relationships. The case might be so whatever, but we all really good group. There's there's no problems and really over the course of the fourteen years of the show approaching fifteen in July, Dan, July, we really rarely have had that situation, which is probably one of the reasons why it's been going on for so long. So this is I mean, it's a it's a kick to the balls or just no way. No way around it. And gas repeat don't wanna put you on the spot. Plus, you probably don't feel like you may have the equity that I have in order to comment on the situation. I in you know, so I understand that nor do I wanna put you on the spot anyway. But I know we feel the same way, and I know dog and the cat, and he feel the same way, and so candidly, that's that's that's that's the perspective. I'm I'm in or coming from as I do this questions from the audience, and I know a lot of people who are TMA listeners who also listen to podcasts. That's where they are as well. I told the plow boy when we were talking on Friday, and I was under the impression I knew he just to give some background. He texted me on Friday morning it like six twenty six thirty so half hour, forty minutes before the show to get on the phone, and I had a feeling I knew what that was going to be about because I've been through processes with employees before even though he's not my employees. I kinda know the the tells not the. Hi, it's Phil Ivey. VS reads here is pretty basic stuff. But. I got on the phone and he said, hey, I got another job. I hate this. I'm so sorry. And it's like apologizing dude everybody gets it. And even if there weren't extenuating circumstances. How big of an asshole would IB or anybody be if somebody on the show had an opportunity, you know, that would make them happier considering their circumstances. Whatever it would be, you know, like if all of a sudden, take your pick of anybody on the show and their income can can go up substantially and somebody on the show would be like well fuck him for for leaving like real wood that really happen. Like extirpate? Listen, I think the world of you, you know, that I really do. And you know, if you were to tell me right now. Hey, somebody's increasing my income by twenty five percent. And I'm gonna go do it. Like, what kind of asshole would I be? I if I'm not even your employer. But Secondly, because you're producing the show that we host, and I would be upset about it. Like, I I'd like that would be really odd. I guess that goes on. But I just that would be like what what up fucking prick you made it really clear that if anybody has an that is better for them. You hope that they take it and run with be happy for them to anything. Also, by the way, I think it reflects well on the show not that. That's the main reason, but I think it reflects while on the show if somebody in starts making more money doing something else whether that's in radio or else. Elsewhere, you know, I mean for as much as we bust producer Joe's balls Preuss. Joe's doing well. Finan gay is is an attorney. I mean, that's what he was doing using law school or going to law school when he was on our show. So I, you know, I'm I'm happy for the plow Hockney didn't need to. But anyway, when we were talking we didn't even talk about it on the show that day because I'm like, he'll he'll be doing. You know is he's putting his two weeks. In. And so he'll he'll be able to talk about it on the air himself. And and we'll be able to say, thank you. And we'll miss you and all that stuff, and you know, probably pop up here and there on the show, and that'll be that. And then it changed over the course of the day, and then we were talking on Friday afternoon. And I told them I said whenever you announce this. However, you're going to announce that you're no longer going to be on the show, and it's your announcement to make and I'm not getting involved in it because it's your life and your career, and it's how you wanna handle it that you're going to experience a rush of ego amid talking about like like how egos normally I'm talking about like the biochemical scientific element of that. Which is ego a feeling of importance that you probably didn't realize existed. And so therefore, you will not be needing any narcotics this weekend. You're going to be good because you're going to experience this rush. So I knew that was coming. I did not expect nor do I think he did at all nor whose parents who are active on the fan page. How big it has been? I didn't expect that. And you know, I don't know there's there's so many different ways to to to take it from there in one sense. It shows how popular the show is which I realized can come off as self indulgent. But I am, you know, I think we're all aware of our place in this. Which is we are a part of something not the reason for something. Now, audience members may think I'm the reason for it. Or may think Doug's the reason for it or take your pick of whomever. You know, Iggy stock has skyrocketed recently. But it's the group, and I always include the audience in the group, you know, so but the plow boy was a very important part of it. And and you know, I mean, just being I can't I can't not talk about it. 'cause it's what you know, when I sit here, and I talk, it's what's on my mind. What's on my mind? And it's been like I said the process started a week ago. And it's it's still on my mind. And I I just I really like the guy, you know. I mean, I really lied. You know, not that. Because because I think it's healthy to get sideways and by sideways, I mean, but heads and then talk about it not like have people motherfucking people behind people's back. That's different kind of sideways, but he just he wasn't somebody butted heads with he'd get. But it not that that would be wrong. If you did he just, you know, and he loved the show as we love the show, he loved the show. So just real candidly since I know I'm seeing what the questions are this week whether it be on the fan page run. My my Email and also people wanna talk about so we're not going to sit here and like act like it's not, you know, someone's going on people are fired up about. So, you know. I don't know. But I mean, hey, you know, I want to come in here. And it's like I always say questions from the audience is therapeutic. So we'll we'll engage together. And I know there's some questions on it. So I'll, you know. I also I think most people. Understand that you know, we're also navigating a unique spot here because it's a situation. I have with with John Hadley who said blame me blame me, you know, he over and over again, he said blame me, I'm like, okay. I said, then what do you want me to say on the radio? And he goes blame me. And I said, okay said some seven to ten when techs come in when emails come in and phone calls, you're comfortable with me be not like, censoring them. Not. He absolutely goes. It would be wrong. If if I told you to do that because I know he's an important part of the show, and I know you guys all like him. And so and I'm like, okay. So then this certainly that that that that has come to fruition. But it, but in our private conversations, not that I will go into like, the the detail detail detail because I know that's not it wouldn't be right. 'cause it's, you know, not my. It's not I am not a his employer, and I am not the employee, and I I don't I I'm still not one hundred percent sure on everything that that went on that led to everything. But I you know, I made it clear I disagree with this to be real concise. And then also was open to trying to figure out a way to still make it work. And for the first time, you know, kinda laid out on the TMA fan page, and it's only in it's a part of me was like I was place mentally and emotionally. I might not still be in the strongest place, mentally and emotionally about it. I think I'm better than I was Saturday though. It's a combination of things led to it. First off the plow hawk thing. Being a number one. Secondly, you know, my family would just did not want to leave Florida. We knew. What was coming Amine? It's not like we were under the impression. Oh, we can stay there. Forever. We we know the situation, and that's that's a sad thing. Plus, my parents were supposed to come down. And they didn't get a chance to come down. So that was really unfortunate. That was one of the main reasons why I do this is to have time with an Imerys family and time with my family, and then that didn't happen, and that just a sad, and and then also our basement flooded, and we thought and that was just up like a minor thing. And then we get back to Saint Louis and Anna Marie is dad kind enough to pick us up at the airport. It's like, I don't know what time we land like around to Saturday afternoon. And he's such a good guy. Her parents are such good people. So lucky that he said well have you talked with Jim Jim Rogers from restoration one who has been just beyond helpful in this situation in gyms big thing was because this all started last weekend. He wanted to have everything done. And so we walked back into our house. And even though we knew that there was an issue that it would be just like nothing ever happened when we got home that was just like his thing. I mean, just like just like just incredibly kind gesture, and and then he gets over to the place on Saturday morning like wrapping things up. I guess the only thing that wouldn't have been done where a few spots in the drywall that had to be ripped out. And then repainted the paint wasn't done. But other than that everything have been the same. And then it started flooding again in a new spot. And so my father-in-law's telling me this, and we're driving down, you know, back back to our house. And I'm just like oh my God. I'm already I was telling my wife is we were driving to the airport to fly back, and we're monster rush manure you're transporting two months of living. You have a one year old and we're running late and you have the plow hawks situation. And I told her I said just so, you know, I am in a really dark place right now. Mentally and emotionally and been just as an FYI. It's like I was screaming or yelling. I was just it was just super quiet. I said I'm just not good right now. And I like like an like an a. I'm sure there's been other times. But it reminded me of the the Albert PU holes thing in two thousand thirteen which certainly it's asked about a lot of questions of the audience in for legal reasons. I don't go into maybe some day. We'll maybe like the thousand podcast. I'll do that. Just go K fucking. Maybe there's a statute of limitations. I have no idea. But will trust me. It will absolutely not be worth the squeeze. But boy, people would hear some interesting things. And in this case, that's where I just was just like can't sleep. I can't think it's owning my soul their situations here that people have no idea about and even though, you know, they're seven thousand people on the fan page in maybe of that seven thousand God, if a thousand post, I would be surprised, I know they're plenty people because they Email me, and they say, I don't wanna post and I want to get called a lemming. I don't wanna post I loved what you wrote. But I don't wanna like it because then I'll get called lemming, which was an odd. Thing that that is even a thought process, but it exists in people, Email me or me on Facebook. Or whatever about it and e- that that that I was getting blamed for the plow hawk thing, which just like. And again, you're talking about a handful of people, but it just gutted me, which I'm not proud of saying because I need to be stronger than the at but I'm pissed for. We're always attempting any way to be as honest as possible gangster Peter RA leaning in there where you leaning because you wanted to talk or you weaning, and because he wanted to hear me talk about this. What's going on with you? I just picked up tell. I was just agreeing with you. I mean, obviously, you have a lot more time with him. But I was just bummed out all weekend. Like was just weighing on me like has out and about people like, dude what's wrong with you. I'm just like I was bummed out, man. Oh, well, I get it. Yeah. It's it's a minutes. Just it just, and it's it's it's it's it's a short term thing. That's also long term thing. And there's all in the other. There's there's a lot more. And and the thing is there's a lot more. And I think a lot of people on TMA aren't even wear of some of it because I I tried to. I don't know what the right word is. I guess I'm like foreman. So to speak, you know, but I'm not the employer, and I don't have those powers. I think at this point the vast majority of people know that, but I also know some people don't so there's there's that I can't. But it's like, do you really think that I didn't do whatever? I could try and stop this from happening. And so as an example. I see that. I'm going to get a spot where I would be saying to could be some not saying too much, but I could be saying too much. And that's the thing. I'm trying to navigate this thing. But either way, you know, there have been a number of circumstances over the last seeks ties right in with my son being born. Actually, it's always very easy to remember. So eighteen months nineteen months in which for lack of better term. I've taken a bullet in order to keep the thing together. Whatever the bullet might need to be. That's what I have done. You don't publicize it? Because if you're doing that, then people go why is that why did you even have to do it in the first place 'cause then at least a whole thing. So you have it's it's a weird spots. And I think that's why it reminds me of the pool thing because the public thinks one thing, and I know that it's wrong. But I can't. Say anything, and that's that. Really? That's a weakness for me when people make things up about people in general or when I see a mob coming after people. I don't like that. I don't like it even if it's like to my benefit. I just don't like it, I'm in general, anti mobs. Now, some that doesn't mean that the what the mob is upset about is not an honorary 'cause I'm just not on board with mobs in general. And and so having been on the receiving end. And again in the case the plow hawk thing. It was minor thing. But to be accused of either being the one that did it or being complicit or not trying. I'm just like, wow. That's just factually inaccurate in the people who are in the no no that Helen plow hawk knows it. But you know, if it's still I gotta be better than that. So you combine it's, but you get you get over that the night. So I expressed in a post kinda laying out and still not everything gangster pitas. You certainly know. Now. Not everything but going back to two thousand ten let's go through the last ten years of like how many times there have been situations where to my surprise, and candidly, just flat out disagreement other stations have wanted to hire me, but not the whole show and I disagree with that. I mean, I'm really disagreement from a sincere place. Like if you want to start building a show around me. That's fine. Let's see if we can work that out. But in the meantime, let's also have TMA, you know, I'm happy to do two shows Faulk five years ago. I was doing two shows and running the radio station. So it'd be willing to do it. But you know, it's it's happened to few times here. It's happened three times in the last ten years ten thirteen and sixteen in which other places when they knew that I could go we're trying to hire me, but they didn't want the whole group or in the case like two thousand ten when we were doing the morning after at thirteen eighty. It's not that KF an as we were thirteen cavernous didn't want dug in the cat. It's just they only had an opening. I guess I don't remember who's doing mornings for him doesn't matter. But they only had an opening in the afternoons, and they want to be in the afternoons and thirteen eighty a place. I look as John helm camp was running at the ownership group was really good John helm camp by. No, I say his name like everyone was um talk about he was the general manager. He's great guys no longer in radio. I mean, just like the finest human being, you know, for real and he's like super religious guy. And I'm obviously not in a pervert and all of those things. And yet, we just we despite the fact that we were different people had a great relationship in this mutual respect, we still talk. I think the world of the person, and but they were in a spot where they could not pay me Doug in the cat anymore. Couldn't pay us. And they weren't like fuck you. We can't pay you. They were like, I'm sorry, and Tim, I know you have. This offer was an offer to afternoons a CAF s and from what I was making it at thirteen eighty it would have been thirty three percent pay increase plus a contract, but I wouldn't have been able to do the show with the guys because Doug in the cat of their TV jobs. And so that is so held camps offer was and he got this authorized from Simmons media which owned the station that we can stay. And then we sell the advertising. And so I had the infrastructure with inside us T L which had only essentially been selling girl next door parties. I mean, we sold banner ads but shit. It wasn't, you know, sound like you're making a huge living off that. And and so I remember the situation. I remember what the mass still with the math was I know we know what we were doing as far as a monthly revenue standpoint. And then I knew what we had to break down. Like, okay now, I gotta make my radio living. Plus, I got to pay the cats. I gotta pay Doug. I gotta play pay producer Joe's. I'm sure I would have some other expenses, and I thought to myself. Okay. Here's the number. Now, this number is greater than two times that which is our best billing month. Or the show ends. And I am the one with the risk. And I remember this. How about this? There's a fun thing that be really gives should maybe people should I don't know. He's just stories but helm camp because he wanted us to do it so badly he floated us a healthy amount of money from his own account. Not Simmons his own personal account in order to help us get off the ground. And so while Ammon after I made my decision, obviously, he did that. But I just remember the situation. And and I remember asking my dad, hashtag, you know. Tim's dad hymns dad gets them. All jobs, whatever it is. Makes you feel better. Nepotism. I said what would you do? I said I got this over here. But it ends the show, but it's guaranteed money. And I got this over here. It keeps the show together. But I don't know if we're going to be able to do it. And then that means I'm not making a living, and Doug and the cat aren't making what they were making. And then the show still ends, and he's Tim either both shit holes. If you're going to be in a shithole, I'd rather be in control my own destiny. So I would stay at thirteen eighty but I'm like, wow. And that was essentially the beginning of inside us in the program. And so that was the first of multiple sacrifices, which isn't it's not it's not a roic. But I only tell the story. Like, okay, hold on a second. Here. I have done stuff. I just don't I I just never gotten into the spot of going. Hey, look at me everyone. I did this in order to keep this person here. I did this in order to keep the show together. Right. It's like, okay. Well, if you're if you're going to say that I didn't that I don't do shit, which is kind of would be an odd line to take. But if that's the premise the now here, here's here's a list of some things, not everything because I get into everything then we're going to get into some stuff's where it can be dirty laundry in a mattress air, dirty laundry. But here these a lot of these bodies are already buried, so we can kind of talk about him. So I don't know that that that that put me in a bad spot, then we get home and then so Saturday night. Jim Rogers and his co worker over at the house. You know, we talked to them they leave around five five thirty looks like the waters under control. We have no idea where this other leaks coming from. And I mean, I was I was kinda like to have a day I flew back on Saturdays. I always like to have a day in between. And then we can kind of try to get our lives back in order in Saint Louis and Annemarie goes downstairs to like something that we had shipped back. She's putting a carrier whatever in your suitcase back. She goes downstairs, like eight o'clock. And you know, we thought that the water was under control. And she goes the basement is absolutely flooded whole basement now it's coming in from everywhere. And the basement was just finished within the last eighteen months. And so it's not like, you know, it's just like, you know, concrete, and and I go downstairs, and it's an inch to two inches deep. And I mean, God bless Jim Rogers restoration one holy shit. Like like, I'm texting him like he on like, dude. And he goes, I'm on my way. Like, oh, my it's not now at this point nine nine thirty in. This guy's coming over to my house as it turns out it was his birthday, by the way. I had no idea. And then he's like, I don't know. You know, he's not plumber. I don't know what's causing this. He goes. But if you can get a plumber over here, we need to figure out where it's coming from. Otherwise, this thing's going to be you know, completely destroyed because it just it was coming in. Now, it's coming from everywhere. And I call this plumber and God bless him. John Dawson, he comes over at ten thirty eleven o'clock. And even though the some pump was making noise like you put your hand on that. That pipe. It's vibrating. It was it was it was shot. And and that was the that was the core issue get that tended to me. Now, this is three days later, and they're still water in the basement by we can now begin the process, but these people to help, you know, I mean, my God, I can't say enough about him really can't. And and so, you know, you wake up son. It's like okay now, I gotta do the show tomorrow. I know the audience wants us to talk about it. I've gotta talk to station management on how they want me to handle it. So that was something that was incredibly important because listen, you know, you can any I I would like to think that people would understand. But if you don't you don't, but hey, I don't own the radio station. I don't manage the radio station. And if the ownership or management of the station doesn't wanna talk about even if I wanna talk about it. I am not going to do that you can say, well, you're plus that's fine. You know, I mean. I don't know if you regularly commit in support nation at your particular operation, and you have a wife and a child, but if you do tip my cap at gangster shit man, but that's just not the way operate not just because of short term. But you just don't want to become one of those people in this business in particular, where management at other places ownership at other places, go. Oh, yeah. That shows greater that person's talented. But you know, we know he's a piece of shit off the air, and we can't trust him to to you know, by by. So, you know, but again, if you would if you would've fought the power, you know, Chuck, the then then good for you. But you know, I I got I got I got a I got a I got a color inside the lines on what ownership and manage wants now to their credit. They're like, yeah. Talk about it in talk about it. And I go Kay. What can I say blame me? John Hadley said blame me my move. So play me like, okay. But then I got I still feel I got to tell the story. So I told the story from what I know and. But either way, and that was great that we were able to do that. And then people were able to the event, but it still doesn't change the fact that the Pablo boys not here, and I know some, and I had some people go, listen, you know, I love the plow boy too. But the shows about you, Doug, and Jim you dog and Charlier you dug in Jay or whatever combination. It is or Jade, Charlie and the cat or J J dug in the whatever it doesn't matter. And and I would say, yeah. It to an extent. But still I wanted to key part, you know, and it's a key part who's been on it for five years and also on air. Plus, the drops are such a big part of it at hurts. And it's a void. And again, it's something gets Lucas is like the greatest I'd hire. Lucas and a heartbeat to be bought a business that I was operating. But it's like the reason why the show works is variety. There's always personalities and they kind of worked together. So had that Sunday the basements. It is him. And we. Won't be in that basement for God only knows how long I still have to unpack. And I'm just in a dark place, man, I'm gonna dark dark place. A now I don't want to overstate it make it sound. Like, it's like, oh my God. This guy needs help dark place. But I'm just not in a good place. And when we'd already from weeks been dreading, you know, the inevitable March thirtieth or March thirty first when we would, you know, come back to what we figured it would be twenty five degree weather, even though mathematically that makes no sense. Although it was twenty six degrees when we teed off for Joe Straus was golf tournament on April nineteenth last year. So it can't happen. But then you throw in the plow hawk the basement and then yesterday tending to that for the first time yesterday being Mondays I'm talking and and my wife, text me and said well for the first time in his nineteen months. Our son is sick. And he is projectile vomiting, and I can't I can't stop it, obviously. And he, of course has. No idea what's going on. But he can feel when it's about to happen. And then he starts crying Xenos is about to happen, which then just like rips, my heart out is I can't do anything. And you know, I come home and just seeing my son makes me happy. It's an automatic elixir as I'm sure many parents can speak to and and he's being playful, and we're playing around, and then all the sudden I spot the Tel and a Mike. Oh my God. He's about to throw up, and then it starts up, and you just Yuki your feel horrible crying. He's sad about it. And he loves to play outside and he can't play outside and he's starving because he can't keep anything down. And I'm just I'm already not doing well. And now this that's that's that is that is the mindset in you know, what an it's it's funny. These people who are so kind to come over to the house and work on work on it are all listeners as it turns out and. And they'll be like, I'm sorry. This is going on. So I know you have so much going on with the show. And I'm like, yeah. You know? And I appreciate that, certainly. But everybody deals with stuff. You know? It's not like, my son is the only son who is sick. Or my child is the only child who sick and my basements. The only basement that's floods and people are, you know, a mom, the only one dealing with situation it at work, you know, so. Kind of. I I am one of the only people, however who lives in Saint Louis who just spent two months in Florida. So, you know, you kinda kinda balances out, and and you know, fuck may for for complaining. I guess I'm not really I don't think I'm complaining. I'm just telling you what my mindset is. And I'm I'm down. I mean, there's just no way around I'm down. I'm down about it. Because I view the plow hawk as somebody I could have wound up working with on a daily basis until I stopped doing this. You know, at some point Doug is gonna stop at some point the cat's gonna stop. Then who knows what my I might. I might be out of radio within a week. I have no idea. But it, you know, and just really all right? We'll move into Jupiter. It was great here loved it. But, you know, love Jupiter so move down there. But. That I really thought as long as I be doing this the plug somebody could be working with and therefore working with obviously longer than Doug or or the cat. And again, I guess we also want to look at the just the math on everything. And so it's like, wow Impala. We're talking about is the dude I've kind of looked at my maybe working with Uber. Another twenty five years. He goes at least I'm going. Well, I mean, you have to do the math on me. Now, you know, I don't know if I'm going to be doing this my seventies. But. Who knows I mean producer Joe got wacked in? I think August, I'm sure he would immediately know on if he listened to the podcast August or September two thousand six and. And he was back with us producing in. When we started, you know, the morning after thirteen eighty in September two thousands. Who knows you never know? I mean, you never fucking now why that you're told that when you start out in this thing to never bad mouth people. You know, who are still kind of in the in the game. And and you hear that going up like your twenty one twenty two twenty three. And then all of a sudden now you look back on it with twenty years ago. Wow. Isn't that the truth? And you never think it which is why I told the plow hawk and he would have handled it this way. Anyway, I said. Don't bad mouth now again your life. And all that is I'm just I'm just telling you, you just give your side. And, you know, stick to what you consider to be the, you know, the situation and don't like coal name. And I said, you know, people love you people like you and respect you. You'll be fine. There's no need because you do that. Then it kinda can call her the message. I know it's tough because you fired up. But so I don't know there. It is. You know, I'm sure I'm gonna open up my Email here. And I know there's a bunch of questions about it. And so on and so forth. But. You know, I don't know. This is a different kind of questions from the audience because it says Israel can't like seven to ten I can kind of turn it on and turn it off. And honestly, that's one of the things that I wrote I said I mean the plow hawk and I knew about this last Tuesday, and then we wound up hosting a show together with Iggy. But no, Doug. No cat. No sorry. The cat. No, charlie. No, jay. And and I don't think anybody in the audience could have ever guessed anything was going on and people could God. That was pretty good. You got what I would say. Yeah. I guess it was. But I don't know how many times I've hosted a show where there's all like burning around us. But we just for those three hours were able to block it out. And do our thing part because it's like an escape a positive escape. And so, but it's a it's a tribute to the plow boy and egg that we were able to do that thing, you know. And then did it the next few days? And I knew on Friday when I'm doing the show because of probably told me he was leaving. I knew that that was you know, that he was going to be leaving did. But I thought he's gonna be leaving in two weeks. And then in the back of my mind, I was still hoping somehow something could be worked out. But either way we didn't talk about it. And if you go back and listen to Friday show, there's no way you could could go something's going on with Pablo. Have you never know? But hell we've had spot take your pick of things, and you wouldn't know, and you still don't know because we keep it in the room. But on this one I can't keep in the room because they're actually something Lee something has been done. It's public, and so people people are fired up, and it's flattering that people are because a lot of time on the fan page on emails that I get it's it's names. I recognize honestly people, I know, but it's names I recognized because I've seen them post. But in this one it's bring out people. I don't even recognize the names. I'm like, I don't know the hell this this person is, but this person certainly fired up. So so there at all is do with it. What you want? I know it's going to be a theme of a lot of the questions. Ironically, a question that I thought the world of last week. I'm curious when he sent it was TIMMY recaps. Okay centered on Thursday. And so you kind of know the time line of everything now. And I just was like this is such a great question. But at the time, honestly, I didn't think the plow hawk was going to leave the way we had left things on Tuesday after it all started up was he has well, I just want to let you know. I'm gonna I'm gonna I just because the circumstances I'm gonna I'm gonna start looking for another job. But I don't know when it'll happen. I don't know what it'll be. So I just want you to know. Well, you don't own me anything here. You really don't. You. Gotta take care of yourself. And you gotta take care of Madison. And whatever you do that's in your best interest. You have my support period. That's what what the fuck else. Would there be you know, give me give me at least three months, even though. I don't pay your check. I mean, what kind of a hassle? So, you know, I just I in part of music, hoping somehow it'd be remedied, and you know, everything would be cool. So TIMMY, recaps sends this Email, and I haven't read it since he sent it. I just remember that he sent it. I'm just like, wow. This is going to change totally now when I. Read it for questions from the audience. But I remember thinking it was really good. Hey, I hope this Email finds you. Well, I have a Hodge podge of recommendations topics and questions, which I thought might make for a thoughtful questions from the audience content or just worth considering. And since I haven't read it since I read it the first time this gonna make sure I'm staying within the one lanes here, but I the recommendation, I came across an interview focused internet show the other night and thought of you, I know you get into the weeds a bit on interview styles and formats much like Seinfeld enjoys breaking down comedic bits. So like any other healthy and functioning adult male? I thought of an AM radio host. Thank you. Timmy, recaps. I digress. The show's called hot ones, it's packaged in twelve eighteen minute videos based around the host the interview or the celebrity the interviewee in varying degrees of hot wings hot wings. I realized that sounds a bit gimmicky. But the added variable of having these celebrities struggle with the spiciness of the sauces seems to disarm and allow for them to let the guard down. There are several seasons of the show. Oh and plenty of gas, which you might like actors athletes comedians immediate figures. Enjoy I have never have you heard of this gangster, piano. I you're like Johnny podcast too. So. All right. Let's good recommendation. And I remember reading this last week. But I guess I kind of it's a long longer Email. So I guess glossed over that. But I do remember the Seinfeld enjoys breaking down comedic. But it's thing. So okay now, I gotta go and watch it or listen to it or the owners. As for the questions and topics. They're purely being brought up because it might make for some interesting content. I by no means I'm trying to get into your personal coach things if it's something you would like to keep under the proverbial cap. So feel free to disregard a repackage number one from the outside looking in setting aside, the potholes that occur from unforeseen or unavoidable circumstances, there's a lot of irony in this thing being sent when it was you seem to have a loyal team behind you and around you, although you are no longer the boss per se to what you do to what do you credit? The loyalty of your team plows e Iggy Peter Jennings. Doug, the cat as the station around you operates differently. You continue on a path with consistent solid people around. You is that a byproduct of your hands on hands off approach to managing again, knowing you aren't the boss per se or has it been organic at the core of the question. What is your thought process, and the culture you've created within the four walls? Of your studio. I'm huge on managing my team with a shitload, of empathy and understanding around my expectations and boundaries. So I enjoy breaking down the strategies of others. And again, this was sent last Thursday. Oh, it looks like about twenty eight hours before the plow hawk posted that he was no longer on TMA. So to me recaps, very intriguing that you had the intuition to ask this or perhaps just a coincidence. I don't know. But that's the truth. I'm looking at the time stamp, and I do know that it was sent before that all happened. Even though I knew that that was going on. I also thought there was a chance that he was not going to wind up leaving. That was my hope even though I knew that he was going to be looking for another job after everything happened. So the quick answer on that is seeing how TV stations I worked at and radio stations. I worked at before starting in satis T L. Operated and not across the board. But just certain things that I knew drove employee's up the wall, I knew not to do that. And that's it. Now, I think. I don't think I know actually because it has to do with me. So therefore, I can speak from that confidence level that oftentimes I get compliments that are really overstated because if you were doing a ranking of friendly personalities of the six people and TMA and for the sake of discussion will include the plow hawks Dylan TMA, I would be sixth. I would like to think and it's not a shot at anybody else. Maybe we're all tied for first on this one. But when it comes to being fair and honorable with my word, I'd like to think I'm at the top of the list. And again, that's the in all other five guys might be there too. I'm just saying I know that when I say, I I'm so conscious of making sure that I deliver on it. Or if circumstances changed that I try to find a solution to try and were especially if nobody's at fault in a situation. And I think it's actually hurt me. Because now people I think when things happen like what happened with the plow. Boy, they turn me like, Tim, fix it. And. I'm going. Well, why aren't you asking Martin or Frank or Doug or the cat to fix it? You know, because we're all in the same spot here. As far as our roles at the station. We are hosts, but there is a perception because I operated a station from thirteen through sixteen and entitle I was operating the station from part of sixteen through month and a half of seventeen that I'm still operating the station or can and you know, it's not accurate and in. But it's a it's a weird spot. They still try to still make things work. But I also recognize because I do it to that. I mean, how look at how elections are one that like the friendlier or more, quote, unquote, relatable, just become theme on the show or likable. I guess person becomes the person who wins, even if that person isn't necessarily the most qualified. Fide? And I'm not saying that means I'm the most qualified is just I recognized that because I'm more introverted in kind of like uncomfortable with. I don't know what the right word would be like, I'm uncomfortable. Like, I would do anything for nobody to know who I am. We put it that way. And I'm sure that time has coming very soon, by the way, I know it's coming at least, I think it is. But yet be able to make large amount of money. That's what I that's that. To me is the win. I think I talked about this last week either on the air on questions, we audience was playing golf us from guy and he's like this, dude. Or no, what would you do? If you want seven fifty million dollars. I'd be like, oh, it makes sure that might turn. It would handle it. I would no one would have any idea that I have that money on like like a party in the park strategy like new money, you know, like, oh, look get my, you know, take your pick of whatever. Absurd car and drive around liberty. No, I have money by whatever. That's that's that's that's my own personality. But yet on the show, my personality might come off differently. So for those who listen to TMA, and then they like want more TMA with Q FTA. They're like what the fuck is this, and I get that. But I've always said when people say I got to do a show or something like it's gonna fuck people up because it's going to be totally different than what they think it's going to be. But now as I've done it for I guess eighteen nineteen months, I guess when people are like. Taking it in. And that's why there isn't necessarily an automatic crossover with TMA audience and the TA or the Tim occurring show interviews because it's it's different. So if you're like in the TMA steps like what the fuck is. This is just Tim dislike babbling, and so it's difference. I could see why you would like loved he may but not like this or like this and then to go so he does show radio show. Let me listen to hang a what the fuck is at radio show guys totally different on that. Then the truth is they're they're both obviously me it's just when I'm like kind of by myself. It's more introspective. So you know, going back to TIMMY, recaps question. I don't. I don't think at all actually that. I am as good as I oftentimes get labeled as a manager of people. I just don't think I'm as bad as some of the things that we have experienced over the last, however, many years, and then you know, you include Doug and the cat with TV experiences like me. And so you like I said, I'm just conscious of not doing the things. And these are these are kind of like basic things to their their their way. You would just ways you treat people? They're not they're not like, you know, Tim, analyzed this number and then he saw this opportunity. And then we saw the stock go twenty percent because of it. That's not what it is. It's it's more about. Yeah. It's five o'clock on a Friday. I'm not going to send a manifesto. Pretty basic. So it's more about not doing things, you know. I realized it's the weekend. And yeah, I'd like to talk about this now because it's on my mind. But you know, what I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna pass on that. And I'll talk to the people on Monday about or whatever. And again that that can't be absolute because sometimes things happen. But you know. I encourage vacations vacations I feel like so often and this has any plan. But a lot of you are picturing it at your place of work where there's like vacation shaming. I think it's an American thing. I think it's so unhealthy. Certainly long emails on a Friday at five or motherfuckers. But but like oh taken a vacation area. You know, like that asshole who walks up to you in the office you. I. I want people to take vacations. I want them to I encourage it. You know, so, but but still I think like I said, I think for me I other said this on T America FDA last week. And it's kind of coming full circle. Now, I think a real unfortunate thing that happened was my income. I contract. I don't know. What the right word for it would be not being redacted. There's no word for it. And then people knowing what my contract was led to some people being mad. Because they viewed it as apples to apples with while. He's a host how come I'm not making what he's making. And and the reality is I was being paid for leaving nine twenty bringing the infrastructure that we had built at nine twenty and all the accounts as in the advertising dollars over. And that was my value, host wise. You know, that's that's that's subjective. The dollars those were objective. So I always go back to that stuff. That's why I don't get mad about math. And and that's the truth. And I, but if I could go back and do anything that because it just changed, and I know it did. And I know nobody talks to me about it. But I, you know, I'm aware of it. And I guess sometimes it gets brought up kind of. Whatever not nee conversation way, kind of you know, back doorway. So you know that that's that. I think changed things in June of two thousand sixteen when that article came out, and that's unfortunate. But what I, you know? So it's because the I actually I actually really don't know why I just know it did. And so that's something. That's. You know? But, but you know, when I when I have had a chance I can think of one conversation fairly recently where we kind of got into that. And I, you know, I know, you know, is something that bothers a certain kind of, you know, couple of people who might not know that I know how much bothers them. But. You know, I we're not we're not talking apples to apples here. And when I did. Create nine twenty rank create nine twenty but switched the format to nine twenty and had to guarantee bird Kaufman. I thought it was three hundred thousand dollars not as I always say now that we have that sitting around putting our house because we my wife, we were the guarantors, you know, nobody else was running up to put their signature on that. But really wanted to work there. And it ran very smoothly. It really did. You know, it it it made money we had a great relationship with the owner. And you know, it was a it was a good situation. Fortunately, the the the price that we were paying changed materially for the airtime, and it became a problem. And that was one of the reasons why we were looking into our free agency had that not happened. Who knows what happens, but that happened? So that's why we were on the move and able to move and and moved and why always talk variety station. But you know, I had to cut that check. I was wanted to cut that check. Nobody else did Nord. I ask anybody else too. But that's that's entrepreneurial adventures. You take on the risk. And then if it fails, I get shit on. And nobody goes hates him. I know you and Anna Marie now don't have a house, but you know, I was making this much while that was going on. And so I'm gonna I'm gonna float you, whatever it's not the way that it works. Nor would I have wanted that because I took the risk. But that also means I get the reward. And I just think that that's that's something that that changed but pre that. In two thousand up until then in two thousand sixteen I think people appreciate it. What is what is truly hands off? Because what am I what am I going to do? How am I going all these people who are doing shows knew how to do a show? What am I going to do and on top of it? They what we do with him. As just a totally different thing. I'm not gonna I don't need to worry about that. What I need to worry about is managing the business. And if there is going to be drama, keeping it out of the public having conversations ideally face to face. But if they can't be face to face, at least over the phones, you can hear vocal context, and and try and eliminate it. Satisfy the issue in whatever way it can be satisfied with it means parting ways with somebody or changing something fixing something, whatever. And then. Okay. Well, here we have a plan. And this is how we're gonna handle it. And again, I don't cite us. But to me somebody who really is running a business. Well, you have those characteristics. But they're also able to to monetize it effectively. And that's why I just think I'm just not that great. You know? I can I'm good at the content part of it. But I need somebody who can go. Hey, you know, they can run it. And they can be respected. They be I don't really want people to be people's friends per se. But they can think of ways to monetize and keep coming up with kind and lead. That's that's you know, but not lead because they have a title, but lead because people want to follow and now because they're following because they respect him. And it's just kind of understood that they will follow them because they trust them one of the greatest compliments I have received while the pool halls thing was going on. Now, I know, you know, whatever. But, but I am seven to talk to the staff behind the scenes, and I told the story and Brian burrow will may rest in peace said he goes, you could have both of your hands in my two back pockets, and I wouldn't know what the hell you're doing. But I would know you would have my best interests. And I'd be like my God that's coming from you, especially, you know, a veteran respected nationally person. I mean, what it's like what's my favorite compliment I've ever received. I don't know. I don't know how long it went better. And I'm just like, that's that's awesome. So I guess that that that. That's that's it's flattering and people say it. It's just like I look at it. I'm like, yeah. But I think we can do better as far as generating revenue and a better margins. And I think people can do that better than me. So, you know, that's that's how I view it. And I know that's not what the question was. But truly like the the concise answer is I saw people do things wrong, and I just knew to do the opposite. And that's it. That's actually it. That's actually that's truly at again. And it's not like I'm doing a flawlessly. Like, I said, I think I could put up on a pedestal, and I don't deserve it at all. Really? It's just I happen to do it. But I'm certain other people have done it. I don't think I did anything here. Really that fascinating. Let's see if there's another one that I'm going to get into our own. Let's see I really liked this one. And I. I wanna I wanna get into. I think it's it's rock solid. Hot take about the constant. And it's all from to me recap Samy Mahat take about the constant condescension online targeting takedown culture in general, divisiveness specifically online, obviously it is easier to be a wise guy online because of the anonymity and the lack of accountability. But I think there is more to it at the root. I think should so polarized right now because there is no longer that general assumption that the person on the other side of the discussion means, well, it is just assumed that every comment or wise crack is coming from a place of malice and people are so online today that nobody truly knows anyone anymore. If the people with whom I converse daily are literally just an avatar or profile pic as opposed to someone with whom I've golfed had a drink or met for a meal that I'm less likely to give them the benefit of the doubt over a slip of the tongue controversial opinion or a wise crack, which can be perceived as an asshole statement, this is inevitably led do online personas having to. Costantly add qualifiers through their search in such as respectfully with all due respect, not to be a dick. But and it was all the divisiveness people are becoming ever more offended in ever more guarded. Nobody's willing to overlook anything. Because everything can be viewed as a sniper. And in my opinion. It's fucking crazy and scary, and it's dulling conversations which should be talked about. I think if we are to move past it, which I honestly think we can people need to become more selective in where they choose to address issues. Not everything needs to be the hill upon which you're willing to die the ground war against this shit. Can't be one if every item of every scenario leads to a Twitter rant about how societies promoting piss poor behavior. I really liked that. I really liked that's against our people for I wax on it. You have any thoughts on what? Timmy, recaps said to you. I agree. I I really liked what he said about not every hill. The hill you're willing to die on like, I feel like sometimes I don't want to write anything on the fan page because I know somebody will die on every hill. And it's just going to become a big thing. You can't just. Say your piece and be done with it. You gotta get in a fight and defend it to the death. And I'm not interested in that. I've got better things to do. I think my perspective on it is is colored by my experience with message boards. And it was such a negative experience that I automatically which was a flaw jump to a conclusion that a shot is like a an attempted a death blow. Whereas sometimes it's just like, oh, Tim pokes fun at himself. So I'll poke fun here. But I also know part of the success of the show is that people feel like they know us and. You can't have a show that is essentially based on personality 'cause it's sure as hell isn't based on knowledge, and it sure as hell isn't based on you know, breaking news that you then. Push back or retract when somebody plays along with that personality. So that is a flaw. But you know, I was having a conversation with a listener. And I don't know if this listener when acknowledge it on Sunday. And I said, I'm really confused by the obvious element of again, you're talking about a handful of people on the TMA fan page who clearly are not fans of the show. But they're on the TMA fan page. And I'm just like, I don't get it. And like, it's obvious and like a few. Like, I feel like want it to fail remedial. And it's like so obvious. And then I'm like, why are you like, I don't get it? Like, I don't I'm trying to think of like, I don't I don't know. I'm trying to think of something that wouldn't be political. So I can tempt to relate better. I don't even know the answer that you might know something I don't like the day that I don't know. Like, if there was an people trying to push religion on you. Okay. That is fine. Whatever religion it might be. Well, I wouldn't be on their fan page right there that would be a really good fan page anyway. But, but you know, I mean, it's just I okay. It's not my bag. You know, why was the fan of the show before I worked for it? I would never have gone on the fan page to make fun of the people of the show that I like to listen to. Yeah. I always found that as odd. So, but, but then it was I gotta pull up this Texas change because it was really it was you know, if this person wants to say that he was the one in the text exchange all yield. But I don't. To name the person's name just because certainly wasn't for public consumption the time, and we were having to it was like a long two hour long thing. Let's see he's like you and resute. Oh, and Glover should do a podcast on this. Because I know resute, oh, I think we talked about this when he was in here. You know, like like people who hate him but live for the show, and I'm like ads. I don't I don't. I don't understand. I wonder how that happens like hate listening. I guess it's like certain teams. So I wish I could find the text. He goes it comes from your because it comes from your favorite movie, and it was the scene in private parts Howard Stern movie in which they're going through the ratings, and the I think it was the GM of the general sales manager goes his ratings are up. I don't understand his ratings are up people who love him. Listen for forty five minutes at a time or something. I'm paraphrasing the scene, and they as yeah. But what about people who ate him? He goes they listened even longer. They listen for an hour at a time. You'll have makes no sense. It was I know. But I'm looking at the numbers. And it's kind of like when he told me I'm kinda like I just got like seven go. Yeah. I it's part of the game. It's part of the game. I just have to accept it. I can't heal it. It's not like I'm going to change anything about it. You know, I it. It'd be one thing if I'm like fuck if people found out that I had the plow boy fucking. At his salary cotton. I got a problem, you know, or whatever, I know the truth, and it doesn't matter. And then sometimes you cannot fight back. And then it becomes oh. We know that we rattled them. He doth protest, you know. Now, we got him. And so so then it's like venison. You can't wait is truly you cannot win. But then also. You can't. Not communicate with six thousand nine hundred people because there are one hundred people who you know, or like wanting you to fail or hate you or whatever the case might be. That's fucked up math. So, you know. So I think so so I'm coming from a play I'm coming from a PTSD sort of spot with what went on with message boards, and particularly in saddest. He'll message board. It got really bad. And and I look back, and I go why fuck didn't I dislike block people are shut it. Like, what was I doing? And so then now it comes up again. And I'm like, you know, what I mean? Fuck it. Okay. Then no matter what they're going to Buchan obsess. So who gives a shit, you know, if and then it's like ten guys talking to each other and dislike rooting for my failure than. Okay. I mean, what am I okay or hundred or whatever it is then so be it. You know? So I'm coming at it from a different spot than where you're coming at. We the question to him because I have some history that goes in when I talk about this stuff most people like what the fuck happened here. And you know, but it was like, you know, nine ten year thing, and it was you know, it just I I don't I don't know what I would have done different. What I would go back and do differently. Maybe I guess just blocked people. But I was it was important to me to allow people to feel like they could express their opinions. But I always say that when people go, and then when I delete something or something gets deleted by Facebook. And ain't even know that it got delete whatever what about the open. Marketplace of ideas that they use it against me. And I go with the open. Marketplace of ideas is an expression of opinions not the ability to make up things to fit in a Genda, you know, or just make up something about someone. And so. That's different. And I've been clear on that. That's like my hypersensitive spot. But if I were to attempt to strip that away, I agree with the premise one hundred percent there have been a number of people who not a number because it was only like a few on Friday night with a thread saying that I was at the blame or that. I should have done more when they're like going home. I guess you guys didn't know the conversation. I had with mandatory I said, I will pay the difference on his salary. But whatever nobody knows that night at that wasn't the time to get into that. I didn't know that. There was going to be a time. But since it was, you know, portrayed that way. Or because I was in Florida. That's why it happened is if like, you know, like, I'm it's impossible to have a conversation. I mean for fuck sake, I hosted one radio show and to podcasts from Florida, you know, but it was just one of those things like oh fuck him. He's and Florida's. This is our way to finally bitch about one guy's way. And a number of those people. Like almost every one of them actually have since reached out via Email and apologized and said, you know, what? Now that I've become aware of what you wrote and some new information, I was outta line. And I apologize, and it's like, that's it. That's all it takes all takes. And it's a weak spot. Because now, you know, if you polish is ninety nine percent of the time, even if I'm like, how you kind of dick for the last seven months, but okay, that it's you know, that that's enough because I just don't I don't want to fight these battles. And have these online enemies already got enough. And it's it gets into a spot of being dangerous real dangerous. I'm telling you like there's so many stories from the radio stuff that people would find interesting and people say you ought to write a book. But I'm the stuff that actually I think would freak people out more is the like the on the message board people in the like stuff that's going on with social media and popping up at our house or going into medical. Records. I mean, it you just wouldn't believe it. And I I also know it's kind of like I had somebody who owns a business Email me. And this is kind of the price you pay for on your business like allies. Unfortunately, I did that I don't even own this business. But this kind of the price you pay and I'm like, yeah. It is. But you know, there aren't you own business? That's one thing. But like the public element of it is another thing. And that's why. Oftentimes, I feel like I might be quicker on the trigger. Then I should be. But it's because I don't want to allow the fan page become what the message board became. So I'm more proactive on that than I was in the message board. But if you strip that away to what you're asking him. I couldn't agree with your premise more. Because it's like when these people reached out to me to whom or dislike, you know, is you know, like, I just like these guys fucking hate me. I have no idea why I don't even know him. But whatever it's like, I'm not used to that that happens. It's just you know, I'm just like, it's you know, what a bizarre I have. No, I know want. I wonder what it is that they hate is like their perception of my politics for religious, and they don't like that. I'm not religious, even though I don't shit on religion. I don't know what it is. But a hate me so fine. And then it's like, oh, then they jump in on the. Yeah. I believe the Tim could have gotten kept the plow boy, or whatever he shouldn't have been in floor. Whatever misled okay? Were those those those you know, if you're going to add onto that that's that's a different ball game. That's because it's just factually inaccurate. Our now are like now, we're using our disliked like try to justify something that, you know, if you really think about it, you really think that like, okay. If you do I'll give you ten to one odds on it, you ten to one minimum bet hundred dollars, and we can. And then we'll go then. And now see if I can get permission from the station to go through Texan emails, and and I get to keep fifty percent of the station gets the people's like a great. And then you'll see exactly what happened. Maybe people do that. Because I wanna know. I dunno station might not be on board with it. But I'm like, yeah. That's how comfortable I am with the whole thing. But in general, yes, if people knew each other, it absolutely wouldn't happen, which is why the fan page in general is supposed to be a place where you don't have fake accounts. Even though some still slip through and then they're like sleeper cells. I notice that was a big thing on Friday when the Planck made it's like all these people starting out all these number of people I've never ever seen post before. And or like post all of a sudden. Whereas like, yes, I've been waiting for like when the pools thing happened. There was a guy. This is a true story. I don't know if bucks folk can find the audio, and I don't know if I read I think, I read it. Who said you mocked my phone call into the morning grind in two thousand four five. And I have been waiting for this moment for you. I swear to God this happened. I swear it happened. It hundred percent happened. And I thought to myself holy shit. This is at a level that I and it's like and then internally I'm like, yeah. I got you know, I mean, I know I'm getting I'm no I'm on the front lines begging the shit, except I know what happened. I know all kinds of details on it. And I know that I don't have anything to worry about. But I know I have to dance. So I got so minutes it here and dance. And I'm dislike. Wow, man, that's being eight years, and you have been listening and hoping that something would happen because you're mad about the way handle one of your phone calls into the station. Wow. You know? And you just I can't wrap my mind around it. So your premise is one hundred percent accurate. Tim bery caps. I agree with it. I don't know what the solution is. I feel like the TMA venture people get to know each other in the kind of like, oh, yeah. I that guy and his political takes I fucking hate him. But he's a good guy. You know, it's like when people dog how do you let Doug and his political tastes like I it doesn't affect me. I don't Doug's a good guy. I don't give a shit. I obviously disagree with him on a lot of stuff. But it doesn't like is Pete knife set a number times Doug is the A plus person to work with you know, he's going to be here. You know, he's not gonna bitch. You know, he's going to do the job at a a plus level. You know, I mean, you know, and I know he's a good guy is family loves him. I mean, so we disagree on politics. Who the fuck cares? Is that matter? I disagree. My parents on politics, you know, whatever. So anyway, great question. All right. I've gone I've gone. One Email this has been horrible hosting and I haven't even looked at the fan page awhile. Well, we got a lot of questions. Let's see I will try to stick with the theme. Ever considered TMA employed live event, maybe at your brother's place would love to hear some of the stories in that setting. That's from Paul rose on the fan page. Yes. Doug, and I did that actually couple years ago, and it like, I think it sold out quicker than me and Joe buck and me, and Dan McLaughlin, and John Mozelle ach. And that was kind of a whoa moment. See, I certainly would do it. The thing is is like a lot of these like people want to ask these things, and then, you know, people would be recording. And then you get into weird spotlight. We can't like we're still not nece bought where we can talk about some things, you know, or I can I guess I can like the pools thing that I always go back to say, that's like one that will stay with me forever. Be obituary probably. But I mean, it's like what's the point of getting into it? Get out of that or stuff that you know, whatever over the last few years that people would want to get into. It's like like, you know. Of course, we know what happened. But you know. So I don't know. Like, maybe it can be understood that yes, we will talk about TMA two thousand seven through two thousand twelve thousand thirteen that way, we conclude the man and woman. And we'll do that. I don't know. Maybe we do that. I'd be interested. Sonos? Maybe we'd be it's a good idea. Paul because I think kind of the statute of limitations would would be up. Let's see who. And where it is the whole hashtag or quote, unquote, unrelatable come from can't tell you. But yes, one person got that going behind my back, and it was not anybody who works here, by the way at all to be swear, my mother's life in cases. Like, I'm like protecting. That's a hundred percent. Sure. Do you know where it comes from gangster Pete now? I have no clue. Really? I've heard you say, yes, I haven't I didn't hurt anybody. I thought it was said by somebody else who somebody and I'm just like, wow. You know, but there's kind of a doctor Jekyll Mr Hyde thing going on with the person who said it. And anyway, that's what it is. And honestly to me recaps, and I had a DM exchange about this like a month ago about it because he kinda sharp shot me on something on the unrelatable thing. And I deleted it. And he's like, hey, man. If you got a problem with you reached out to me, and I said, listen, I. On the unreliable thing. I gotta be honest. It really does bother me. And I don't want to allow that narrative to continue to be out there because it really it pisses. It pisses me off in part because it's like it's like if it were just like like a listener, I don't think it would piss me off. But you know, it's it's a different circumstance. And and so again, it's not anybody who works here. Swear, my mother's life swears worse worse where a my mother's life. Be the first one to tell you. It's not like the cat was thinking. It was a good idea in two thousand eighteen when I was going to go down there and do the show he thought it was going to be a whole thing. And then he came back like that wasn't that bad user a couple of days. And then this this one my God, we have any issues like aunt even have one. I never wanted to say it was like it was no hitter. They want to say anything now anytime now he had no issues. There was no delay. Right. It sounds like you're there. Right. If you didn't say, no, no, no, no. Right. I know. But last year, we're on wireless this year. We were direct into the back of those router. And it was it was an MG. No Blasi, our engineer who's awesome set it up. And so it was it was more on proof to allow me to do it. But anyway, at the fact that the reason why that one gets me going is because the it stems from my contract being public. And then like I said as opposed to like this upstart this guy took a chance he left TV, you know, and started this company, and man, I'm pulling for him since like the, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh he did. He's making this. You know, now now, I don't know. Now, it's now I've gone from Poland form him. I kinda wanna pull him down. It's it's the that's the thing. It's why who says you always want to be a five this. What is this your boy Rogan? Did he say this Holly Randall, I don't know? It's better to be a five than a ten or a one. If your quarterback the point the pull you down, you know, if five you just kinda can fly under the radar so. Yeah, that's it. You know, I've whatever we've all been through shit all on own toy about radio. I'm talking about all of us in life. And I just I think my commitment to work played a role in getting divorced eleven years ago. And I was doing it again is through two thousand but when my wife got pregnant, December two thousand twenty sixteen and then when we thought we lost Jameson couple of weeks after we were like, oh, my God, you're pregnant we were told we couldn't have a baby. And at that point. I'm dislike I know that the stress that I bring home plays a role in her stress. And if what if my stress led to yet, another miscarriage NAS losing this baby. I just that was it. I'm just I'm like, that's it. I can't do it anymore. Can't do it anymore. And if that may whatever man whatever was going to happen. Then so be it. But I that was it. Running the station into into shows. Ridiculous. I don't even know what the hell I was thinking it wouldn't even cross my mind now. And and then also, I I, you know. I just it just didn't it just it just didn't matter as much candidly. And that was before he was even born now that he's born out even greater perspective. But I'm sure like any of you who are parents. It's like if like when it's going bad and man has been going back over the last few days, and it's not just all plow because I laid out at the beginning of the show. When I see him. It's an elixir. It's an automatic rush of happiness. And when I'm thinking about this or that or my moves so to speak. I think about him, and it's an I'm and I'm a selfish motherfucker, I am a selfish motherfucker. But it's like, that's it. That's that's that's that's that's it. I I will suffer for the betterment of my son. And that's not that's not even specific to an event. It's just that's just the way that it is. And I'm sure anybody who's a parent knows exactly what I'm talking about. And if somebody would have said this to me two years ago now. Yeah, I guess I don't know doesn't really sound all that great to me. I really enjoy hanging out with, you know, porn stars in Las Vegas. That's kind of where I am. But yeah, it's a different mindset now. So it's I have the ability to do the show from Florida. For spring training. And it certainly is is, you know, it's it's about being with, you know, ideally, my family and my wife's family, and they're able to be with their grandson. Because you never know when that is going to end. And so we'll always have that. Now, two years. And that's why part of the reason why I was in a bad mood down. Because my parents didn't get a chance to get there. And that sucks that's one of the reasons why, you know, work hard to try to make this thing happen. And then it didn't have them. It was great to have amorous parents. They're like I said, I have a great relationship with them. But that that sucked an insight who knows if I'll be able to do it in twenty twenty. I mean, the fact we've done at two years, you know? And then no matter what Jameson school here in a few years. So, you know, there is a cap, you know, either I'm not living in Saint Louis anymore. We're down there at that time, or we just can't do it any more. Or maybe we go down there for like a week. But it's different. And so that's why I do it. So when it's called on relatable, I understand. But. You know, it cuts both ways. The cost I pay for this hashtag UN relatable thing is that my. Professional life is like TMZ fodder for Saint Louis. That's on relatable. I would imagine. But it's not talked about these pets person. You started. And. You know, it's it's not it's, you know, like, I said my contracts out there. Some of the details were inaccurate. But either way ballpark idea of what I make at least from this particular job, obviously involved in some other things too. And it's not like, I'm a multimillionaire at all or a millionaire that matter so, you know, it's not like it's like, oh sweet will head on down Jupiter live there. It's no cost, you know, with or whatever it's Nichols to us. That's not the way it is. It's a calculated going. You know, what I just don't know. We're going to be able to do this again. But yes, the unrelatable thing comes from. Yeah. Well, he's living in Florida. You know for two months, and I just don't think that plays. Well, with the audience really mean is that really it's it's the it's the kind of the the ambition stifling perception of success hating shit. That goes on that I talk about so. Yeah. That gets me bandy. So anyway, hope they gave you the background on it. Let's see I will attempt to answer. One more here. I like this delay tactic. A lot of questions about the plow hawk. And that's what I'm delay tactic. I don't the answer to like take your pick of any. I don't know what the future holds. I just don't. I have no idea. I know that his relationship with everyone. I think across the board. But I guess I can't speak for. But I know on TMA for certain is a great one. And so the door is always open from TMA standpoint for the plot hawk, you know, but you know, TMA does not operate everything the amaze its own show. So you know, that's not our call on things. But we think the world of him and who knows what would wind up happening. Let's see this is a good one it somewhat. It's somewhat gets into the area that I kind of want to try to women even though John heavily said blame me blame me. So I can you know, I appreciate him saying that because it would have been weird if you don't say anything about it. And he's like that. Would be ridiculous. If you don't talk about it. So I appreciate him. This do you think if the plow boy would have been given at least one farewell episode. The backlash toward Hadley would have been minimized. Yes hundred percent hundred percent. And I've voiced that as well. You know? But when I voiced I think, I think some people wanna hear me screaming, and and so therefore for screaming, they're like, well, he's not really upset with the way I handle things. I try to anyway to try to handle things is more of a, you know, let's think through it. Okay. What if we do this? Okay. We'll do this. Then this is going to happen. And then if that happens, then it's going to cause this to happen in this might happen. And is it worth even allowing that to be a scenario by doing that? And then you go back to. Okay. Well, then what if we did this, and then you start there, and it's so fucking nerdy. And that's where I am. And so that's how I operate. And I think a lot of you would as well, maybe all of you actually do. But here it's your fan of something. And. So it's like when you're talking about the cardinals. But if you worked at the cardinals, would you be on Twitter like, you know, posting the gif I post of Mariah Carey throwing out the first pitch at a raise game anytime. Zuma throws you probably wouldn't. So it's a different deal. And I understand that in fuck anything. I love the people are passionate about it. Okay. Not my God. It's some point. Nobody's gonna give a shit. You know, either all be dead or nobody'll yesterday. Didn't show him doing? It's going to happen. One of the two has to happen. And and both are high probability of in play. We no one's a lock. So you want people to care, you know, and people care, I didn't anticipate at this level. I knew it'd be huge. I told that story at the beginning of the whole thing. I think I had the plow hawk been able to announce on his own whenever he wanted to. And I was thinking he might do it on Friday like when we were doing the show. I didn't know I didn't really want him to I didn't tell them. I didn't want him to. But I didn't want to why. Because I was like last week and down here. Dealing flood bag and Saint Louis, I got to pack up and fly back, and I really don't wanna have to, you know, especially if you know, it gets into the weeds, but it's his life and his career and his decision, and I totally understand it. And I'm going to support him. You know, I conveniently is certainly not at the top of my priority list here. And then it got to a spot where he was like I gotta say something now because I'm not going to be back on the air. I'm like, man. Now, it's not unheard of jobs. Where people say I'm done in two weeks. And they say, okay, then, you know, then just turn in your stuff now. And you know, and I get that. And I I might have had that. Maybe I don't know. I don't know if I ever did. No. Fortunately, haven't had a whole lot of people leave the things that I have been charged over the fourteen years, but inevitably it happens. And and I just yeah. I do think it would. I think would have changed. I think it would have changed because people would have been able to hear from him hear from him directly. Hear his voice as opposed to read words, which then includes context, and so yeah. But the station has its reasons, you know, I've made it clear I disagree. But that doesn't mean that like John Hadley, and I are at each other's throats at all we just, you know, John disagreed about plenty of things. But you know, I'm just. You know? And I don't know. Maybe it's because you know, growing up my dad would get so fired up and still now would get so fired up. I mean screaming, and he would bring it home. And we'd just like we we as kids. We couldn't talk about it being my two brothers. My sister wasn't born yet at this time. But we just like, okay. Like the houses now under siege. And until he calms down which might not be until tomorrow. This is this is we just gotta like hideout. You know, it wasn't like he was like violent that screaming so pissed off about work. So I would hear these names growing up, and I don't know who the hell they were. And I'm dislike, you know. And so I have an aversion to screaming, and I don't know if that's programmed in me because I hate it so much as a child or I've come to know, which might be somewhat poker based because you kind of focus in the process and out the results like I can scream all day long. It doesn't it might give me like the short term. Rush of a few people going good for U Penn Salvini thing if anything that might make it more complex to try and fix things. So that's just not my style. But you can disagree and disagree a few times and then stop things from happening. And then you get them fixed. And you have a good work. Relationship. It's it's like working with it. You know, Democrats and Republicans disagree with each other. But ideally, the reaching across the aisle, try and make things work. So yeah, I mean answered question. Yes. Denno? My answer is. Yes. And I I don't know if they anticipated the the backlash I didn't anticipate back backlash. I don't want. But else could've I'm talking about. I knew the re backlash. I didn't know that it would be at this level. So anyway, there's your theme for today think that's an hour and twenty minutes of of introspection, we thank all of our sponsors, Ryan Kelly, the hormone expert dot com sponsor our studios, Mark Hanna, evergreen wealth strategies, James Carlton, Carlton state farm insurance, data boys, James bent, help during this flood situation. Holy moly. Three one four nine six one forty eight hundred. I'm texting him on Saturday night is water is just pouring into our basement. And I said, I don't know what to do. I'm kind of at a loss. Do you have anybody that you know, that can come over here as a plumber and try to tell us where this water is coming from? And he goes on a flight right now a land in thirty minutes, and I'm gonna come over. And I'm going to help I go. Wow. Dude. I I can't thank you know. But. The era outta control. Thank you. But that's just not going to happen. I just need a plumber phone number. I don't need your gentlemen for offering. That's the kind of guy James Carlton is it's kind of business. He runs a young guy too. So you can get on board with him. You know, you kinda got your person for good three one four nine six one forty eight hundred or online at Carlton insurance done it can recommend enough. And then of course, Johnny Landau Chevrolet how to seventy in the Washington, Elizabeth exit wound enough, boys. Great people where we get our cars. All we're going to get for now on land off cars, it just the way that it is. And there dot com. Chevy find new roads and designer heating cooling online at designer service count the number one train dealer in the midwest. It's hard to stop a train. So there it is questions from the audience kind of a plow hawk thing in kind of a social media theme. Maybe agree. Maybe a disagree Email me t- mckernan inside a steel. I come if you haven't listened to the atom long interview this week. Did you want you? If you listen now, it's great. I loved it. I I love that interview. But I know I say this about a lot of interviews. So it's kinda like boy cried wolf, but I'm a golf nerd so as totally into. Yeah. I've had a few people go I don't like golf, and I just loved it. And I think the thing that stood out about it was it's like, oh, I get why he successful because he's just so even keel the right temperament. Oh my God. Just like, yeah. I know almost eight years, but it was fun. It years on the mini tours. It was fun. I knew I was going to make the PGA tour hundred like what in the world. Telling Frank Cusimano because Frank son played against him. And he's like, yeah. I mean, just like the confidence, you know. But it wasn't like. Yeah. I'm so great. It's just like I knew it was moving the right direction. And I guess that helps when you got Phil Mickelson behind you and your putting fifteen feet for the PGA tours desert. Classic. And you think it g wow. Yeah. Big time recommendation on that one. All right. Thank you. Everybody for listening. Thank you for being on the ones and twos. I'm Tim mckernan. This has been another addition of Tim occurred show on the inside us steel Pakistan from the homeowner expertise studios.

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 145 - QFTA John Mozeliak's Comments About Lambert

The Tim McKernan Show

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 145 - QFTA John Mozeliak's Comments About Lambert

"Yes. Yes. Welcome into another dish, the mckernan show on the inside of steel podcast network. I'm your host Timothy Michael McCartney. We're in the hormone expert dot com studios, and it's questions from the audience day. And I love questions from the audience day as I say every time we have questions from the audience day. It's just me in the microphone Jack just me in the microphone, Jack and got some good questions today. So I'm looking forward to getting into them. And and I guess for those of you because it seems like the the vast majority of the questions that I get are kind of Saint Louis region Centric and both of these questions that we are going to attempt to Akyl today are Saint Louis region Centric, so for those of you who like that. That's what you will get this my opinion inevitably it will lead to some Banti ISM it in. And I think we'll get Bantea some from quote unquote, both sides, although I'm not necessarily talking about democrat Republican. I'm just kind of talking about like factions of Saint Louis so to speak so it's a no win play. But that's that's fine. I'm essentially a gentleman who exists in my base. -ment? So these are my opinions, and it doesn't mean that I want to attack you if you don't share my opinions, although I imagine I'll get attacked because you don't share mine, but that's the nature of the piece sometimes and social media and impersonal conversations via Email. So it goes either way I'm glad that we have the opportunity to discuss them and in do so in an unfiltered manner, and it's all provided because people like Ryan Kelly, the home loan expert dot com who sponsors the podcast and has since the very beginning. Thank you Ryan Kelly. Thank you for making this podcast possible podcast. That has doing interviews with what I would say are pretty big name guests in the Saint Louis area and even beyond Saint Louis this week and last week of the rare to part of the first ever to partner with young page views, a Saint Louis native, Ben Freedman of barstool, and and coming up Wesley bell, the newly elected Saint Louis prosecuting attorney, Dan, dear door, the pro football hall of Famer slash broadcaster. Along with a bunch of interviews here with it at this point. We've talked with damn near everybody that I've wanted to talk to and we started the thing, you know, ranging from governor Jay Nixon Senator Jack Danforth Bill the wit, Tom Stillman two hall of famers. Whether they be members of the cardinals or blues or soon to be hall of famers in the case of members of the St Louis Rams with Isaac Bruce. So the producers of the program have done an incredible job. And we have those for you every Sunday night. And then we have the questions from the audience on Wednesdays. And then the pick six podcast, which is our football picked podcast. And even though I kind of you this the podcast is like, yeah, we're just guessing and flipping coins, and hitting I gotta tell you something not because it's me. But because I've got a guy who legitimately studies the stuff I'm like sixty one percent. I think against the spread. And I went six in this past week and producer. Joe went six and this past week and even g unit and now. There is a fade g unit t shirt out there. He went four and two. So now inevitably what's going to happen. Now is that we're on this heater of going a combined show sixteen in two and Joe, and I go a combined twelve know that we will have a disastrous weekend coming up, but Joe's like fifty six or seven percent against the spread. Now, sixty sixty one percent against the spread. That's that's really good. But again, I want to make it clear. I got credit my guy because I you know, one of my picks was Kansas against Kansas state this past weekend. I wouldn't know the first thing about picking Kansas. But hey, he's been on it. God bless him guys on a heater. So anyway, there's the schedule here on the Tim mckernan show. And now we're doing a hot stove show with Dan McLaughlin once a week. It's a separate project. But you can watch it on Facebook live, and you can watch it on periscope on Twitter, and we'll do that twice a week starting in spring training. But once a week now through the end of January and with this off season having so much anticipation and some. Anxiety. I think for cardinal fans. I think it's a good thing that we're going to be doing this because there seems to be news throughout the course of the off season, and Dan, and I will be able to break it down and chats with people on Facebook live and on periscope. 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It's it's one of the podcasts here on the Tim occur and show the Tim occuren- endemic Laughlin QNA presented by bud slick with John Zarrella in this gentleman road on the fan page. I'm usually a lurker, but I have a mini rant based on the discussion about the lack of Lambert flights being a possible small contributor players not signing with the cardinals. And this was in reference to what John Zarrella said he talked about the airport being an issue specifically. And I think in a way it was kind of like a throwaway comment, but he did say that it would help if there were more direct flights, and there was a reaction from the audience when he said it kind of like laughter and like, oh, man. I can't believe he said that. And this gentleman says I've heard this lack of direct flights. Brought up a number of times over the years on the show. With regard to your average person flying. Does don't get this complaint at all in the past few years? I flown direct. And then he. This a number of cities where are these mysterious cities that people can't get a direct flight to hate on Lambert main terminal you want for being a ghost town late at night from what I can tell south west is thriving here. Opening more and more gates in terminal two, and they have a ton of direct flight options are people just dead set on flying American or something and then get upset when they don't have a direct somewhere. They wanna go or they booking last minute. And the director sold out to the TV networks force employs take the cheapest possible flight option, which ends up being the one with two layovers direct. I just don't get the complaint otherwise. So I appreciated the way he phrased it because he you know, I mean, so many times we're talking about a topic. We don't know so much, and I think when you're coming from a place of seeking an answer or seeking information. Your question will be received better if it doesn't come off with some kind of what you usually see on social media. No at all. And then like an attack on either a person or. P a group of people who have one view that you don't particularly share. So I appreciate that. And is somebody who with both TMA, but I guess more. So with this podcast have been who's been lucky enough to interview, you know, government leaders in the area. It's a conversation. That's come up a few times here on the show regarding Lambert. I I know recently, I can't recall with whom but I feel like I can picture the person the privatization of Lambert, certainly being a topic. But Lambert is was Joe Straus may rest in peace when a his favorite topics. So here, here's where I know that I'll lose some people. But but it comes from a good place. And then I'll then I will give you my a response to what the gentleman wrote because I spent a good amount of time on it, even though I know it won't be received real well in L explain why don't think it will be received. Well, so here. For whatever reason. And I don't know why this is, but the way things are at this particular moment in Saint Louis history, and it is in my opinion, substantially different than thirty years ago. And then if you wanna take thirty years off that and then go back into the fifties substantially different from where Saint Louis was we're in a weird spot because as I've said a number of times, I would by Saint Louis if it were a stock at this point, and there's two ways to take that in both ways apply to my statement. You don't buy stock. When you think it's value is at its highest that would be a bad by you buy stock when you think it's valued its lowest, and then therefore it has implied value. And then also if you believe that the stock, of course is going to increase in value. So part of it is an acknowledgement that the stock value is low. And then also the positive is is that I think it is going to turn around in some capacity. It's in part because it can only get better. But another I just see things that I think are positives. You know, I saw an article wish I could pull it up. And maybe I can because I think that there's some value to it. And that is a list from the Brookings institute that America has many highly inclusive digital places, but fewer also inclusive of America's many highly digital places, but fewer also inclusive. These eight cities have the best tech opportunities for women minorities and workers without a college degree. And it cites a number of cities in Saint Louis is one of those cities. So my whole thing that I keep going back to with startups is the tech startups. Now, it's some people pulling out his twos. When. They take off then they relocate and leave Saint Louis, but I think that that is a very healthy situation for our region that that is considered nationally in perhaps globally something that Saint Louis bringing to the table. The other thing that I think has great values that people acknowledged now in Saint Louis, not everyone but saw MC knowledge that we have problems here. Then you have a faction of people who just go. Oh, it's just invoked hate on Saint Louis, and then just kind of dismiss it. And I would point out that at this point. If you think everything here is going great. But that's great. I just think that most people would tell you that in I'm talking about people in whether it be business or politics that that is not necessarily the case. But despite that, there's this odd thing, and it's kind of gone on over the last fifteen years or so that if you're critical of something that means you don't love it. Now, I would suggest that if you're critic. Title than that means that you care. So with regard to the specific question, this is what I what I would say. And what I did say in my response personally. I thought there were two super candid moments from John Moselle like Monday night, number one. When he said build a wit was not happy with him with regard to finishing as the bridesmaid so often with renewed a free agents and then number two when he brought up the issue with Lambert outta nowhere. Now, I've asked the question about Lambert as to why it's an issue because while it's a combination of depressing in one sense. But then like, sadly, convenient that there aren't a bunch of people around when you land in comparison to other top twenty five markets airports. It's something that gets brought up often by business travelers and people who are not from here, but who fly here now it's easier to make fun of the criticism and dismiss it because that is worked so well for us here. In Saint Louis over the last few decades as we've sword behind Indianapolis and Nashville, but in hosting a show in which we discussed the issues why they're deemed problems. And then when having these people on the show, see what they gather our solutions. It's something that I wanted to get a better idea on why it's a problem in some people's minds. So in looking into it for the average, Saint Louis who flies more for pleasure than for business. You would never really think much of it. You look at the south west schedule. That's what most people I think do at this point is that's certainly the main air airline in Saint Louis find the route with a few stops. Best departure time and least expensive fair. And then you hit click, and that's how the vast majority of non business travelers myself included travel in and out of Lambert really have for the last decade. Plus now going back to two thousand when I was working a Cam Lovie for five years, and we were travelling with the Rams and the cardinals and the blues and Missouri and Saint Louis U, and they would be in the NCAA tournament. I think if I had to go back from memory. I would tell you that I flew non southwest flights more in that five year period then southwest flights. And even though it was only thirteen years ago. It seems like a totally different era. But it was it was a totally different era. And so there were a couple of times that I can specifically recall for blues playoff trips one in the year. They win the presidents trophy in two thousand when they were playing the sharks that we had to fly through Minneapolis to get to San Jose. And then we had to in two thousand three when they were playing the Knox we had to fly through Phoenix. So we're going all the way down to rezone to get to Vancouver. And so, you know, the the those are two examples, and so yes, I realized you could certainly fly without question can fly. I don't even know where you can't fly from Saint Louis. The issue is the direct flight. The usher the other issue is the. Options so therefore from a timing standpoint and an airline standpoint. And then if you're a business traveler, or if you are an employer there are a number of people who travel so much for a living that they at that point have the ability to sit in business class refers class. Now, this is where we get into this weird thing, which will actually be my second question for questions from the audience today regarding I don't know what the right term for it is. And I know this one I'm really going to get hate on. But I feel strongly about it. So we'll talk about it, which is like this anti success sentiment, especially for young people in Saint Louis where if like you're doing well for yourself you almost have to hide it. And then the people who actually aren't doing that great. Somehow kind of go rap game on it. And then start flashing in. It's almost like ambition initiative are discouraged here. And I don't get it. And it's not by certainly everyone. It's by a sliver. But yet, I notice it, and it's an. Odd thing. Whereas like, there's a population of people in Chicago, you think about it for examples is a near example. And now, I'm being told about Kansas City, where it's like it's like encourage, and it's like, it's like the the in thing to do is to, you know, get out of college. And then like, you know, do as well as you possibly can you know, and in having an heaven certain amount of pride and trying to create or be an entrepreneur. And then if you are successful snout like you have to apologize with with a sarcastic, hashtag blessed. So so we'll get into to that element of it. But that's a factor because why well if you fly southwest there is no first class. There is no business class. And I don't personally give a damn about it. I just don't wanna middle seat myself at this point with a one year old. It's not like, I'm flying everywhere. All the time anywhere. It's it's not a big deal for me. But I'm looking at it from a regional standpoint. And that is a legitimate issue is somebody posted in this thread. Let's see this gentleman does not live in Saint Louis, but he's a Saint Louis native. And he said we have international companies in Saint Louis travel for companies like Emerson is a major major problem. But I mean, if you're going to isolate it in John Mozelle accent regarding agency, I personally am surprised to hear that. Because if you're going to sign an eight figure or nine figure contract, you're probably going to be flying out of spirit on your own plane, or at the very least on wheels up or net jets. And you're not going to be really worried about flying commercial. But if you are trying to find family in, you know, it can it can be you know, it can be quite an odyssey at times because you're probably not going to have the vast selection of non stops that you would have from other top twenty five markets. So when I laid out that case, you know, I listed the top twenty five markets in the country in in some people. And I and I say the stuff like secondhand because when you're in television as I was at the time, you know, what the the markets. Because that's what you're doing for a living. You know? So it's like, okay. When I started in Little Rock, it's market fifty seven I had an offer from Monterey, California. Also as a first job it was like Mark at one fifteen at the time Austin at the time was sixty and I would imagine or Austin Texas shooting up those rankings Saint Louis is Mark montavani said when he was in was number ten as far as market size. And this wasn't that long ago. Saint Louis is now number twenty one. But I list the top twenty five markets in the has nothing to do with airports. It's more about region's population size. And when for those of you who have traveled in these airports. It's New York L A, Chicago, Philadelphia, Dallas, San Francisco, Washington, Houston. Boston Atlanta, Tampa, Phoenix Detroit. Seattle Minneapolis Miami. Denver Orlando Cleveland Sacramento, Saint Louis, Charlotte. Pittsburgh Raleigh-Durham and Portland. I would imagine most of you would agree if you do travel that Saint Louis options in comparison to those other top twenty five markets would be on the low side. Side, they have multiple airports, and there are more multiple some have airports, but multiple airlines is what I meant to say. And then therefore with multiple airlines you have options than also options outside of south west you have the ability for business class. But even if you're not flying business class, and you're flying coach to not be pinned in on. I want to fly nonstop. It's got to be at six in the morning, or it's got to be an eight at night, or if I am gonna fly from Saint Louis to take your pick of not Chicago or Dallas or Lanta. I've got a stop in Chicago Dallas or Atlanta in order to get to X Y or Z again. This is not an across. The board statement is a question brought up by with John was brought up with regard to Lambert. So I went on to say those of us have been to some of these airports listed above in part one. We might say things like shit hole or Denver's airport is so far from the city but specific to what the complaint is from business travelers. Okay. That's that's I think to me the difference here. Because is is guy. Just like travelling like, okay? We're gonna go to Las Vegas for the weekend. It's like, okay whenever we fly we fly. But if it's business or if you are the actual business in your flying, your employees or your flying people to Saint Louis, it's an issue. And so even though the the original question was regarding Mozelle X question. He said the average traveler, but yes, that's the average traveler, but that's not what we're talking about here. When you're talking about what Mozelle ox bringing up the difference between these markets and Lambert Airport is the option for multiple airlines direct flights. So if you want to dig it down further, and this would fall into the category of my second question, which personally, I think hurts Saint Louis in some capacity, but for those who are able to fly first class or business class. You do not have the option on south west, which is the main carrier in and out of Lambert. And finally, you have nearly no direct international flights from Saint Louis. Like literally now that the Icelandic flight is going to be going. Away here in the next couple of months few even wanted to count that. So I'm only speaking for myself on this particular point is someone with a one year old and who travels to one of three states, and that's about it. I'm quite happy with my three hour nonstop to Las Vegas via south west or the nonstop options to West Palm Beach Fort Myers. The only other place we really goes Hilton Head, and that's just not going to be ideal. No matter where you are. Because Hilton Head is a very small airports here, either flying into Savannah, Georgia, Charleston and industry having nature of the beast, but the beast, but the criticism of Lambert is not about an individual's pleasure travel so much as it about business travel. And this is my analysis. The discussion with Mozelle lock came up when I asked him about Saint Louis being a destination for big time free agents now, so I asked the question who have been the biggest free agents to come to Saint Louis over the last few years. And I think we would agree if we're talking last few years Dexter Fowler. Now, what happened with extra Fowler? He didn't really want to come to Saint Louis per sources at least in comparison. Jason to what I think were San Francisco and Toronto as other major pursuers at the time. So Saint Louis had to give him the extra year in money to get it done after eaten at a meeting went to the national's for king's ransom. I believe that similar Christian yelich this past off season two off seasons. Go the cardinals preference was at a meeting. But then the nationals paid the White Sox and prospects of price at the cardinals. I don't think we're anticipating being the cost of getting Atta meeting. Do. I think Dexter Fowler had hesitated about Saint Louis because of the airport. No, I think for someone who's going to make nine figures or close to it. They went to live and raise their families in a city that matches the lifestyle they want for themselves and their families. And I completely understand it and for many who make that kinda money. It's going to be a coastal city or a major growing city. And that is why asked the question lock. That's why I wanted to see if like Saint Louis perceived reputation when you're digging down to do I wanna live there or not is a factor in the cardinals not landing the big name free agents over the last x. Amount of years. I never thought that the airport figured into play. So it was surprising. When Mozelle I brought it up. Now, of course, ironically with regard to Fowler. The reason that the TMA fan page broke the story that he was coming to Saint Louis is because one of the members of the fan page actually shot a picture of him in the cattle call line for a southwest flight from McCarron in Las Vegas to Lambert with regard to any solution, which is what separates the men from the boys and those on the sideline from those who dare to step in the arena, I view it as a chicken and egg discussion. In addition to our conversation on Josh Holly last month, we had lunch Jack Danforth asked me this incredibly open ended question that I made reference to earlier on a podcast, which was so what do you think of Saint Louis, and we laughed about how vague the question was. But I'm sure that was his intent make it open ended. And I expressed the same optimistic view that I shared earlier that startup companies have found a welcoming welcoming climate in Saint Louis and a young creative class. Many of whom are not from here will. Only help the region he agreed with that part. But he said it concerns him how many of the big companies have moved out of the region over the last couple of decades and talked about how not only those companies are important from a tax standpoint. But also the domino effect. It has in other words as recently as the eighties and early nineties yet people that many of our parents can cite as the people who you knew would represent Saint Louis New Yorker LA when shit was going down, and they would take care of business for Saint Louis. The name Bob Hyland is one that I'm familiar with. My dad would always bring his name up Danforth did as well at lunch, and because he made his Mark in the industry in which I work. I'm certainly familiar with his name. Although I never met them in Highland. Ran came a wax. And he was just an absolute force both at came wax in leader in Saint Louis amongst others. And that goes back to a common I often make when we have this discussion on the podcast regarding the void of leadership in the region. And it's it's a it's a rhetorical question. And I ask myself the question, but I mean, who do you think it is deal? Is it lie to Cruzan? Is it Steve stinger is it? Governor Parsons Senator blunt is it soon to be Senator Holly. I mean, you get the idea as I'm listening, those people, I don't think, and it's it I know it can come off as a shot it's not intended to be shot. But as I give those names to any of those inspire, you I mean, honestly, do they I I think in an probably in some cases, you're kind of cringing. And so there's there's there's my point the league leader doesn't have to be a politician Highland. Wasn't a politician. However, you want to have someone who gets things done and speaks on behalf of the region for the greater good in Danforth's contention is and was that Saint Louis had with these business leaders, we had leaders and now many of those businesses are gone with fewer business travellers. You have fewer flight options going back to the chicken and egg. If Saint Louis were to have what had had going as recently as thirty years ago. I'm quite certain the flight options would be better at Lambert. But it's economics. There isn't much of a demand. So there isn't a supply now specific to it impacting baseball's elite free agents, I think it wouldn't even. Crack the top ten on why they would choose the city over Saint Louis why because a fly private, but I have never run a baseball team and tried to sign require David price. Jason Heyward, Giancarlo Stanton. Or even had conversations about why they are considering another city over Saint Louis. So I have to yield Mozelle ach a person who has done at new actually brought it up and from my standpoint, the bigger issues or these two number one the amount of money the cardinals willing to put on the table and number two the individual and what the individual once in the case of the four biggest names to choose Saint Louis over the last twenty years when they could have gone elsewhere McGuire admins, Roland holiday, they all had kids and worth the latter portion of their career now, of course, most free agents are going to hit the market at that time. That's the way the system works. But for those wanting to raise a family, you often hear how great Saint Louis and on top of it. If you're looking at McGuire ninety seven Edmonds in two thousand role in two thousand two and holiday in two thousand nine the team was winning at a level that they are not now when Maguire came team was one win away from. Playing in the World Series in ninety six an Edmonds came here, and he didn't sign immediately was traded here. But then he loved that group of players in two thousand and obviously they won Rolan came here. The cardinal's gone the playoff two straight years and holiday comes here in the cardinals great team in two thousand nine but they just faltered in the postseason getting swept by the dodgers. But to get one of those players and look at a big time player choosing Saint Louis you've got to go back nearly a decade holiday. And that's why I think the free agent element of this off season is so intriguing because I think for some Saint Louis since consciously or subconsciously a big time player choosing Saint Louis over all of these other bigger cities are growing regions would be a boost for the morale of the area. It won't get us more flights out of Lambert, but it would be some form of win. And for those of us who live here, we know we have some legitimate issues. But we also have a lot to offer in the great news is there's a recognition of the problems now and a desire to actually get to work to find solutions. And that is the first step. So I welcome your thoughts on it. And I know it can lead to long emails, and when you send a long Email. I sincerely I do. I read it. I really actually enjoy reading them because almost every one of the emails that I get they're not like the kind of like motherfucker emails that you would usually get like when you write a column or something along those lines or do a podcast, even though I know that the opinion might not be popular. Because if there's one thing that can get people little upset it's criticism Saint Louis, but if it's one of our own doing it, it's more welcomed than if it's somebody who's not from here, which, you know, take it or leave it. I just believe that to be the case. So they're plenty of flights out of Saint Louis. It's just the majority of them are southwest flights. And and then it also limits nonstop, and then of course, there are no first class or business class options. So, you know, the tough thing is is then you're getting into talking about. Money and or socioeconomic economic status which then gets me to the second question. I wrote earlier in in that manifesto regarding the airport about the first class element. And and then that led to somebody writing in you said that you think that's a bad thing for Saint Louis. We pull it up. What did you mean by that? And so this is some I've talked about it with a few people. And it's a weird thing. And it's it, but it's I have to tell you. It's something I feel strongly about, but it's an odd thing. Because it I just know I just know it's an odd thing to talk about in in probably zero upside play. But it's something that I speak about often. I spoke about it when I was in my twenties. And now that I'm in my forties. I still speak about another words the goalposts don't move just because my demographic has I'm going to continue to get older unless there becomes some kind of Benjamin button phenomenon, but it's not going to change my mind on this Saint Louis is going to prosper when Saint Louis has a young in vibrant, professional community. And right now for many young professionals if they do go to college and graduate from college coming back to Saint Louis, even if they are Saint Louis natives and their families live to Saint Louis is now. Not necessarily what many want to do. It's not to say all I think you probably if you were taking like university of Missouri graduates. I would imagine the percentage would be higher. But if you go to a school outside of the Saint Louis area and just for the sake of the discussion will include Columbia, Missouri in there more often than not you will see people spend their twenties in take your pick. Chicago, certainly I would imagine it would be number one. But I would also include Denver Dallas, some New York some L as a Miami. Whatever the case might be. And so the QNA on Monday night with John was airlock after missile-like was done, Dan. And I were asked some questions one of the questions was about the S. And the reason why I am. So I don't have any so high on but excited about the LS is because so often you have a younger fan base. And it kind of becomes a social event for younger people at some. Of these MLS franchises. And listen, I love the cardinals the cardinals Hawaii got into broadcasting. But I mean, you know, if you if you do watch other games in baseball in compare the crowd at Busch stadium to you know, certainly Wrigley field would be an easy example. But you know, you're picking a variety of other. And it's just it's a little more energetic. And that's just because Saint Louis is a little older. It's just the way that it is. But again, I know saying this is going to piss people off, and it's one of the things like, but but but the goal is to have the conversation and at the risk of having an honest conversation comes criticism, and I'm fine with that. I shall take it, but I feel strongly about it. And one of the reasons why the morning grind, which was the first morning after was formed was because I'm sitting here at the time twenty four years old, and I'd be driving into work, and I'd go my God. There's not anything on in Saint Louis that caters to a twenty four year old. It's it's just like for it's for older people. I thought it was really odd. And I'm like, this is the twenty first market in the country. So my premises young people. Now, there's some slivers of young people certainly having a Mazda representation, but they're like slivers of the community. I just feel like young people have either been ignored or young people haven't really had their voices heard or tempted to have their voices heard as a real force in the region. I think it's in the best interest of the region for that to be the case. And that now I still say even though I'm now forty two years old. And so when I look at for example, Chicago is an easy example or Denver, or as my making reference to what Senator Danforth said, he sees Kansas City, and you go my God. And then now, it's Indianapolis and Nashville Louisville what's going on what has caused it. And there's certainly a lot of political factors. Whether it be with the mergers in those particular areas or just the job opportunities in the dollars that are there and the job market in those particular places that. Separated? And I understand that. But one thing that I just I've I've, and it's an odd thing. And in a also wanna make it clear because at this point is the father of a one year old. It's not like, I do not like those kind of like, you know, charity events that are really like, you know, social events under the guise of charity of at type thing. Let me get my picture and being alive magazine type thing that's not my bag. So I'm not going to this stuff. And so it in some corners. You might go out Tim, I think this is outdated. I don't think this is the way that it is anymore. And if that's the case that is great. But from my perspective in talking with people who I would consider in the demographics so mid to late twenties about this. For whatever reason. And I don't know what the reason is. And I welcome. A combination of either theories your thesis or just flat out disagreeing. It is my feeling that there is a healthy amount of. I don't know what the right word the right word for it would be. I'm going to give it a good long thawed. Let me give it a good long thought. It's like the Doug von library pause. Pushback. Subtle pushback against ambition for young people not on why that is. But I just notice it, and I'm not talking about like, you know, like one of the running jokes on the show, which also certainly outdated is a reference to parties in the park, which I guess still goes on. But it's this thing in Clayton since some of your priority familiar with it where it's kinda like young professionals get together. And at the running joke was you know, talking about how much they make and even though they're living in like a shithole apartment. They're driving a BMW three series to try and pick up that's the game. And so I'm talking about. The climate slash culture, providing encouragement slash. Right word is reward. But a, but a, but a culture of you know. Smiling upon those who are giving it their all as entrepreneurs at or coming up with innovation and technology. Now, again, I'm talking about startups in some capacity is being a positive here. But I'm talking about throughout the region. It's like, oh, he got a Mercedes or oh, she thinks. She's so good now because she's making whatever. And so it's like getting hated on as opposed to man now see that he or she can do that. I'd love to do that as well and not be miserable in my job and just kind of like sign off on the rest of my life. And and listen there are circumstances. That people have not everybody's in a position to be able to do it some people have families, and they're just not in a position to be able to take a chance, but I'm talking about in general. Culture of wanting to see ambition, and I feel like that that is lacking in Saint Louis in comparison again to when I'm looking at his other top twenty five markets gangster, Pete you're sitting here. But you would fall into the categories gentlemen, with an MBA absurdly more well educated than me, I do not possess college degrees. I'm curious to get your thoughts on this. What do you think? Do you agree with this? You disagree with us. I wanna have a conversation with you as well and a half yawn. There. Nurse. Nancy? Hi, tom. What do you think? Well, I think that a lot of people would come back if there's more opportunity, I think the opportunities lacking unless you're in certain industries now do you feel like that ambition is in some odd way kind of pushed back for younger people. I don't see that. I think that it's more of people that act like that just aren't happy where they are. And that's how they deal with it. What do you mean people who act like what people that act like ambitions, not cool? I think that's just because they don't have anything going for him at the time. Gangster Pete much more direct than me. Thanks for much more direct than me way. Coping with it. Yeah. I don't. I don't know. If I see I don't know why it is. I just feel like it is. But I wanted to see if I, but I see here's the thing. I had the conversation with other people, but those people aren't in broadcasting, so they're not going to be in a position to say. In an even me being in broadcasting knowing that it's going to get hated upon. It's like what's the upside and talking about it? But I wanna have the obvious honest conversation because in a way, I think ties into the airport things at ties into the business thing, I think you have plenty of people in Saint Louis with money. It's old it's old like. I was texting with somebody somebody who actually people would. No, I'm talking about not just like friends of mine. I'm talking about people in Saint Louis, if I said the person person doesn't live here anymore. And this person was saying, I gotta tell you because I love my hometown. But the perception of Saint Louis from people here is that it's old money with some real racial issues and talked about the racial issues quite a bit haven't really gotten hated on for that. I guess that's good people at least acknowledging that exists which is good because you have to acknowledge a problem in order to start looking at us Lucien, even though I have no idea what how how you actually solve that problem outside of just. Attempting to to not be a big shouldn't be that difficult. But I know it seems like a like a longer longer putt these days, but but with regard to the old money thing. It's like, yeah. Why would those who kind of have everything that they want here when I, you know, see change because it's a it's a great spot for them. Yeah. I understand that. I don't I don't necessarily even fault people for that. But I'm talking about people coming along in that new money like, you know, again like flashing and showing off that you got this. And you've got that that type I think is oftentimes that's not that's not really the people who necessarily have it. They just want the attention, which is a totally different thing. Maybe they have the money. But there that's other whatever that's that. I'm talking about a those who actually have and this isn't by the way, some passive way for me to talk about myself at all again, I'm. Forty two. I'm talking about people in their twenties or thirties for that matter where it's like me. Good for that person. Yes. I never really it's human nature in some capacity to have some form of jealousy. So I understand that I understand that psychological element in the discussion. But I'm talking about essentially a young professional class in the market. That's what I'm talking about. And how it is lacking. And so that what happens is you may have people who do move back here after college. But then go my God. The the circle so to speak is so small you're nodding you agree with this. The the circle here is so small that you know, I wanted to live here. But my God, I think I'm gonna move to Chicago. And I it's like more than two hands. I could name so many people who've been in that category or Denver, whatever the case might be. And I don't and I don't know what the solution to it is. Because again, it kind of goes back to the airport discussion, which is chicken and egg. And and it's certainly it's certainly because because it's not an every it's not an all it's not a one brush for you know, the whole region. That's not what it is. It's just it's it's a noticeable difference. And whereas I made note earlier that my travelling these days is limited with having son. And of course, the year before my wife being pregnant the entire time. And even we did travel was pretty much all we did was go to spring training, and we'd go to Las Vegas. So it's not like, you know, mom removed from when I was bouncing from you know, whatever NFL. L city NFL city are MLB city. I'm abuse it or NHL city shells city, whatever and seeing it, but at the time, it just it just stood out to me that you know, there's there's this twenty something and thirty something young professional class that I don't feel like we have as much of insane Lewis is a chicken or egg. But either way even if it is chicken or egg for those people who have done something or for those people who are trying something even if they don't work, God bless them for giving it a shot that it isn't necessarily as encouraged here, and even to an extent pushed back now, Pete, I guess is that it's more like hater type shit, which might be the case. I don't know. But it's like, you gotta be like conscious. Like, yeah. No. I, you know, I don't want to say I live in this municipality. Because then it'd be like, oh, you think you're so great because you live in this municipality, and it's like, I just lived there. I mean, you know, and it's an odd thing or you drive this while I drive this because I had that. And it didn't really go great. And like this car, you know, it's it's just an. Odd thing in. I don't end in a sense. Maybe it's it's just an overall humility thing, which I think is positive, but it's humility if it's for your own doing it's hate if now you're focusing on somebody else's doing. So that's that's what I meant. When I was talking about, you know, the the the the airport element, which was yes. For for the average traveler Suming, you're flying domestic it's. Yeah. It's it's inconvenient in the sense that you have one airline for the most part for the most part, and therefore you're gonna limit your choices and oftentimes that airline has stops. But yes, of course, you can get to take your pick of whatever whatever distant domestic city. You can absolutely go there. However, there there is a there is an entire population in the United States of business people who part of their job is that they're just on the road. And it's not just the people who are constantly flying. And therefore time is of the essence not just for meetings, but also to have their personal time with their family, but I'm also talking about their employers and the cost and then the time that they have their employees out in the road or they want to bring people to their their headquarters. And so if it is incredibly inconvenient to do that or it's like, oh, I'll find a Saint Louis like oh shit. It's going to be a whole day long thing that to me is relevant to the discussion. And I think is more of the issue than the quote, unquote, as the gentleman who posted the question asked the average traveler, I would consider myself the average traveler, I don't have to fly everywhere for my job I will fly here and there for vacations, and so therefore it's kind of like, oh, well, I guess it means we'll check in early today role. That means we'll be checking in late because we won't get there until six o'clock, and oh that sucks we got to fly through Baltimore to get to. You know, spring training, even though it's in Florida and seems to make no sense, but that's gonna save us one hundred fifty dollars. So that's what we'll do that is just kind of air flight out of Lambert in two thousand eighteen and most of us are just kind of used to it. But picture that you're not flying to wherever for vacation or you are the employer, and I realized there probably a lot of fortune five hundred CEO's listening to this podcast, but you're going, okay. We got a send this group here and we've got to get them there. But then the next day we have a meeting here. And so we gotta get him there. And then if it's your flying through here, and you're flying through in these people are used to flying, and they have, you know, hundreds of thousands of reward points, and therefore they're flying business class or first class from the case might be then it's an issue. And then what happens is we say, oh, I class hashtag blessed. Go fact yourself, well it, but it, but it's a real thing. Now, are you shaking your head? There you agreeing with me, I can't tell what you're doing here. It's tough to play poker with the whole hat hashtag blessed and all that it's just real gnawing to me. So. So you if people act like that, they're they're removed from my circle. I just don't you? Are somebody's type something hashtag bless your out. Yes. It's like what's the point? Like you. Obviously don't really care that much about me. You wanna see me do? Well, that's what I'm getting at the whole thing. It's the core at that. And if you don't feel that way, then you're not really, my friend. And then why do I care about what you think about anything? That's just how I think gangster Pete extra Pete much more direct. Maybe you should host questions from the audience, I'm rambling day done. You would have been done. Let's because you don't like how long ago because we got to go do this other show, but but you're much more interesting. I don't know you're kind of direct. I like it. But I, but, but, but you know, it's a weird things again, I know in gangster Pete. And I do have to jet is because we're hosting the well, Dan, McLaughlin, either hosting against repeats producing the hot stove show. And so we do have to go. And so we're working on this whole new thing. And maybe it'll work maybe it won't. And that's just kind of the way it is both Peten. I think in certainly McLaughlin would fall under the umbrella of being entrepreneurs and part of the deal with being an entrepreneur is inevitably you're going to fail and you're gonna fail like there's no way you Batta thousand. I'm sure some people have Batta thousands. So I should say there's no way but inevitably in order to really fire bullets in trying to have something work. You're either going to initially fuck it up, and then have to make it right or it's going to fail that's part of the deal. But as the great Michael Scott said when quoting Wayne Gretzky, you have to shoot in order to score. You miss one hundred percent of the shots. You don't take. So that's the nature of the peace. And what I'm saying is. I want more people in the region in particular young people to be encouraged to take shots like from my standpoint. I love the fact that I have no idea what the fuck I'm going to be doing it. A couple years. I love that. Now. I also know that there that would scare the shit out of plenty of people. And in part of the deal is is that when you don't know, and then you have a family, and that's an important element of this. And I don't want to dismiss it. Maybe maybe people thought I used to dismiss it. Maybe I was dismissing it before I had a child now that I've child so I'm part of the club. So I certainly considered to be relevant and by that I mean a relevant factor. Not e- relevant. But I love I love that. It's like, okay, we could still do this. You know? I mean what we're doing here today. Pete Nye McLaughlin, we might be starting some kind of big project or like two months, I got fucked didn't work. But at least, you know, we tried it. And here's why it didn't work and the you'll gene will learn from that for the next project, whatever it's price you pay. I mean with with running radio stations are operating programming and inside us yell. My God how many shows have we come up with? And then a lot of them just didn't work. But you know, I came up with. One with the help of some compadres in the cat and Martin Kilcoyne thirteen fourteen years ago, and sometimes all takes his one. But you got you gotta take your shot. And that's what I'm saying. I just feel like oftentimes the climate here is non-conducive perhaps more from a cultural element by that. I mean, other people hating on success, and or ambition. Maybe it's not the Embiid that's headed on so much as the byproduct of a successful ambition. And then if people don't handle the success as well. But I'll tell you this. It's still one of the like Randy Marquel who owns the station he laughs about it. He laughed about any lasts about one of the worst moments of my career was when the while. I mean, this was before the post-dispatch wrote about it was when the details some of which were reported inaccurately one of which that I bought into caffeine us. I did not buy indicate us, but that in order to get the deal done. Randy offered me part ownership of KFI us a couple years ago and was published in in some Br. Broadcast trade magazine. And I'm sitting at the Venetian playing poker tournament on. Okay. Got the deal done. I got a couple of weeks. Here doesn't start for a few months, and I can relax with my wife and enjoy myself and an hour and a half into the poker tournament playing very, well, I should note and have a nice big stack and my phone starts blowing up and I looked down. And it's all of these people go and the details your contractor online, and what in the hell is this? And and then of course, you know, some people are like I can't believe DNC's wrote about it. Once it was out. And you know, it was it was out. And I figured he was gonna write about it. So on it's in the Saint Louis post dispatch, and like the articles titled the million dollar man or something like that. Like Jay, Randall junior was calling me million dollar baby for a couple of weeks until I finally said Jennings. If you could please stop, but it, but but the, but then people in like my peers in this business now it became, hey, hey, you know, like a fuck him. He does that pervert show. He doesn't. Go to Busch stadium or enterprise center, or whatever, you know. And then it's like, and then it's a whole thing. And I'm like, you know, the the some of that's accurate some of it's inaccurate. But then it's like, I can't go. Well, that's accurate. I am actually making that. No, that's not accurate about this. Because then it's like I can't talk about somebody's like blowing in the wind. And it's like, well, how come he's making that, you know? And it's awful. It's an awful thing. It was awful. It was it was truly awful. Like, I said Randy thought, it was funny in we we did laugh about it in the sense that I thought it was funny that he thought it was funny. But I'm like, dude. This isn't funny as socks and this is going to be an this is going to stick with me forever. This will always stick with me and on top of it. It's just it's it's that's KF an ass. I we also have inside T L Pete McLaughlin, an eye Nick gale, we're all working on a whole new project. They're all kinds of things. And sometimes you have good months and quarters and years, and sometimes you don't you know, you you have a house. You have Lowe's part of the game. But you wanna take your shot? And so I'm just I'm always four I'm telling you, I e even. If you go. Wow. What a terrible idea that was and how big a failure was that? And I'll go. Yeah. But at least he or she took the shot. God bless them. You know, because it takes a great amount of courage to go out on your own, especially if you're putting your own money that you've saved or you go to a Bank and get a line to start something up and take it. I take an idea and try and run with it and build something. I mean, that's essentially how this country was built. And so I have a great amount of respect for it. I'm in listen, this this is like an finish up with Dennis Miller rant and not the Dennis Miller of two thousand eighteen Dennis Miller of nineteen ninety eight. I don't know what happened. And that is I could be wrong. That's just my opinion. I could be wrong. And I know it's going to it. It's not intend. I'm involved. It's a podcast. It's not like I'm trying to get some audience or something like that with the the radio show or Twitter. I'm just giving you my honest opinions because this the Maceo lock Lambert line got such a response. And then it led to all of these different layers of it that I'm giving you my perspective on it due to to go straight to what he said regarding the airport playing a role in free agents. I can't imagine. When that's the case at all. But the shit. I mean, he brought it up. I have no idea might just make a joke who knows? But then it got into all these topics regarding Lambert in the whole thing. And so what winds up happening usually I find is that when I'm talking to people who have either lived in other cities or currently living in other cities or who do a lot of traveling. They agree with me one hundred percent. And then the people who for the most part have not traveled, and it's not because I'm as Pete loves hashtag blessed because I got to travel to all of these places. I didn't do it. It was my job. It's not like I was making so much money that I'm like sweet RAMSAR plan in San Francisco. Let's fly on out enjoy it and stay at the Ritz. I was flying out there because came over he was paying for it that you get to see other cities and not just San Francisco caliber cities. And so you get to see what's going on around the country. And then you compare it to your hometown, and you go, okay. Wow. It seems like we're behind here. Why is that? But if you have that conversation, and I did have that conversation to an extent when I was in my twenties. I had a lot of older people. Of course, go fuck you. What are you know, are they would, you know, just like dismiss it? And here we are fourteen years later, and I'm not surprised by it because I felt very strongly about it in two thousand three four five. I was right. But that's not like a that was an obvious. I was right. You know? I mean, sometimes these things are quite unlike. Yeah. Eric writings scumbag, you couldn't tell you voted for an okay, I mean shit. I said the morning after the election. I said you guys can focus on Donald Trump while you want. That's fine. Plenty of people are other people are absolutely thrilled. But what concerns me is this era grinds guy 'cause I can tell us guys just to sleazebag. He's going to be a problem. But I don't go, man. Look at me. I'm very intuitive. I'm like, that's that shit was obvious. So Saint Louis falling behind in two thousand three two thousand four two thousand five in Saint Louis having issues in two thousand eighteen these to me things are very obvious. I don't think I'm some wizard, but I also know saying it is unpopular, but I. Think in order to to improve we have to have the conversation. So this is really like at the at the foundation of it. Why that is? But perhaps I'm wrong. That's why I'm saying perhaps, I'm wrong. I think that the free agent situation with the airport is is irrelevant. But I, but I also think Mozelle IQ might have been making a joke or might have been talking about baseball players families coming and going on Saint Louis, maybe he was just because he travels a lot. He's like God that sucks. I gotta fly through two cities in order to get to here there. I have no idea. But anyway, there it is there at all is this. You're welcome to agree. You're welcome to disagree. You're well in I enjoy a good conversation as I was saying earlier long emails, and because we are working on a variety of things. I don't have the time. Oftentimes specially attempting to be a good husband and father to write is much back. But I really do read them. 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Mike Leach to Texas Tech has legs + Congressman Jodey Arrington on cotton and going to the minority

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Mike Leach to Texas Tech has legs + Congressman Jodey Arrington on cotton and going to the minority

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So we'd trying to talk about the news views and issues of the region that matter. Our friends Scott Braddock, let me take a little side sidetrack here are prince Scott Braddock is not going to be with us cannot deliver Braddock on Texas today because he has kidney stone in a hope is just singular not plural. A kidney stone may be stones. And is there in a in a hospital all our best to Scott Braddock? But his segment last week was in flake, oh in so we're going to replay that for you coming up a Scott Braddock and then about thirty minutes from now you'll hear from. Lubbock west Texas, congressman Jody Errington will get into the things that matter to the listening audience, but this is where I want to begin the speaking of Texas Tech athletics. Folks, if I had been given a big been brew for every time, I've heard the name Mike Leach today in connection to Texas Tech and the potential ousting of. Potential to probable ousting of cliff Kingsbury. I wouldn't be behind this microphone. I'd be face down in a bar ditch somewhere not raving on with you. Here's what we know. Now. My best in the worst the weekend. And I'm going to discontinue into best going through Monday night. We are about an hour in two hours and ten minutes away from kickoff of Pat, Mahomes and. The LA Rams in. I'm going go ahead and just count that as my best of the weekend. The twins my twin boys. They're flag football team law. So I'm gonna go and say my best of the weekend is going to be the Kansas City. LA Rams game tonight. But the worst the weekend Baath for whatever that cluster was in Manhattan, Kansas in I think a lot of you would be listening with your own. Abol stripper wherever wherever your right now. You would agree that what happened in Manhattan Kansas against Kansas state on Saturday was the worst twenty six. Look, I get it. I I'm on the politics for cliff Kingsbury because we're clip took up in where we were at that time was an absolute cluster. Fifty yard Lon. Tobby Ma biggers Tom Tupper Bill. A big problem. I think UT university Texas Oklahoma university you win one of those two games with Alan Bowman edge quarterback. But I don't know what you say about what happened in Kansas Kansas state in Manhattan on Saturday. I consider myself to be a friend in hope that he would say the same a friend of Mike Leach, he's been on this program. I like Mike Leach a lot call me a liter call me whenever you may. I think he's a genius. And we've had other people on the program who said as much a Sam Gwynne. Come at Sam Gwynne if you will Sam win wrote empire the summer moon perfect pass, and is is a scholar an academic, Anna gentleman. But has a lot of good to say about Mike Leach? Now, he said what he said about his boss, quote, unquote. I get that whole argument. But I will tell you that I've heard Mike Leach is name continuously over the course of the day. Now, am I going to make this issue into a into a region gate issue? Now. Now. I don't think I will. But I am telling you that I hear Mike Leach is name more than I would've Sumed. I would have heard Mike Leach is name. For a potential replacement for cliff Kingsbury. Now, here's where we stand right now. If Kingsbury were off it would be about five million dollars twenty four and five million dollars in that doesn't include buying out his assistance, but with a base of about four million dollars, and then four point one million dollars in twenty twenty you buy out the difference in that's four million dollars for cliff Kingsbury, and I've been absolutely astonished over the course of the day. Former foes of Mike Leach, the Leech your crowd, and, you know, Minnesota pejorative against a lot of people have all of a sudden mellowed in. I think that tends to mellow whenever he's got his team in a position to be in the college football playoffs. And some are beginning to warm up to him. Now why? We've had a lot of conversation on this program about hotel. Hotel revenue taxes in what that kids. What that could mean? Now. Here's what we do know in this is based upon the Lubbock avalanche journal last weekend. I'll just simply read here M E in you can read between the lines like if you think the the proficiency of government should be to be handled given a dollar in turn it into seven dollars. There's no place who does that like Lubbock Texas hundred percent, no doubt. Local hotels in I'm quoting from Sarah, Sara self brick article here in Lubbock Gabala insurance. Lubbock hotels are saying a similar trend said, John Osborne. President and CEO of this at Lubbock supply of hotel rooms has increased thirty percent in the last decade. Demand has increased thirty five percent logo kills were ninety six percent occupied during the weekend of September twenty eight through twenty nine when tech played its first home big twelve conference game against West Virginia. According to data provided by visit Lubbock. Ninety six percent the highest demand. Four rooms in the month of in the month of September reached a peak this year Osborne said on par with busier months in the year, total lodging revenue topped eleven million dollars that month. This is the first year revenue has hit that marquee said in that is happened for times developments in the city entertainment education, healthcare in particular will continue increase Amanpour accommodations. He said Osborne said this year's coming to Lubbock because Texas Tech remains benefit to the entire economy. Quote, anytime yet people coming to town going to a game they're excited there with friends and family they go out to eat in shop. Those things have an impact on our community. That is so positive. So I come down with the math on it. If you're going to depart with cliff Kingsbury, this point four million dollars, a lot of people would say who we like in a he haw since we we. But you have to look at the broader side of it and say that we're in a seat now. Now, what about the two million dollars that Mike Leach says is claimed by him and a lotta when I hear right now is that there are some donors whose. Rears chapped by some claims Michaeli two million dollars in the scheme of things. Now, I don't wanna be the guy whose like will, you know, just rave it raise it in private money. But whenever you do the math on hotel, motel occupancies and the economic impact. If you're a big tech donor. You have got to begin to say, maybe that makes a lot of sense guys got his team in contention there at Washington, state and Pullman. In it couldn't make the college playoff. How big because here's the for me guys. Here's the big still. I tried to explain them eleven year old daughter how before she was born in maybe a year in her life. You watch Texas Tech. And there was some like trista going through your sternum that hey, Email. Some Phil Collins do digital don't bone. I can Bailey. Come and in the air tonight. Is some rude is being made at me right now. But you knew that there was something coming in with this team. There's not that something coming. But if you've got people buying hotel reservations in coming to town thinking there's something happening. Then that's something new that something we don't have now. In. I get it cliff. Kingsbury is the most quarterback snake bitten coach that's ever coached here. His quarterbacks have fallen by the wayside one after the other after the other. But I've just going to lead with this that there is a lot of premise for the Mike Leach argument in I would expect that to make do in the days to come. And we'll see where the chips fall, I know that there are a lot of donors who are absolutely oppose. There are a lot of donors who were all in on Mike Leach. Admittedly, a to go back to term from ten years ago. A liter sitting here, it seems that there are a lot more Leisure's than there used to be. And we'll see how all this fleshes out. We got some prerecorded Scott Braddock in then we'll get him with congressman Jody Errington. Probably start airing ten on the Leech question. There will curve ball out of the gate it wherever you are at the gate stick with us right here. Be right back on your on. That'll. Texas. Not title one. It's Lubbock foul room dot com. We change those things up. Daniel we change up the reeds providing safe and secure document storage in shredding services to Lubbock in this round the area since nineteen ninety two for free in hassle-free estimate. Call our? Call our friends at Lubbock foul room dot com. Eight oh, six seven four four seven six six six two day, our friend, Scott Braddock his out with kidney stones. Ouch. Ouch. But in his stead, what we have here is rerun from Braddock on Texas last week, and we'll just cute up here important because we're talking about the Texas speaker the house in for those you who are just new to Texas politics, super important issue will queue this up as Scott Brad, call last week, listen closely, my friends because this is what matters if you're on the other side on each and every week, we have our friends Scott Braddock of the core. Report right here on the program. And is there not of better, Tom? I don't think I've looked forward to when your segments more than I do right now. Scott Graddick, thanks for coming on as always brag on Texas. Of course. I always look forward to it. I look forward to it. You know immensely every week. No matter what the topic is to see, you know. Well, but today, this is the speaker addition of other side at Texas. We just play jet. We we chat we played the audio. I'm told in four prices following you in a prerecorded interview. We did can earlier today to a four will make the case for listeners. It doesn't make the case. I asked him you're standing was before he in you guys corn report broke it a believe did as of yesterday. What about one or two PM central standard time Bonnin Dennis bond and head some forty votes today. He announced that he's pledges today a hundred and nine would just listen to the audio. Just talk us through the last twenty four hours. Scott Braddock been very interesting to watch a couple of the candidates for house speaker dropout including Bill king and four price and then tan Parker earlier today. Phil king Weatherford in Tam. Of the w in up and Denton county, and they had been running for speaker for quite some time. Phil king was one of those was running for speaker not long after Joe Straus at announced his retirement about a year ago. And all of a sudden it was this momentum. There was a meeting of some Texas house members couple of weeks ago in which we had reported there were somewhere between thirty and forty Republican members who were trying to figure out who they would support for house speaker the name that emerged from that meeting was Representative Dennis bond and the Republican from Angleton he was not in attendance at that meeting. That's our understanding, but it is worth noting that Bonnin on the last campaign finance reports was giving money to touch US House members at about the same rate as other announced speaker candidates that was before he had announced nothing wrong with that. Of course, it's all disclosed. But it it tells you that a lot of folks around here that he was. Thinking about running for speaker long before he actually announced and it was not the case that some Republican members simply got together and asked him to run. That's the way it was portrayed that they had asked him to run. And then he said that he would pray about it. And then he decided he would run it doesn't look that way. But regardless he came out today said he had one hundred and nine colleagues who have pledged to support his bid to preside over the lower chamber in twenty nineteen when you say that you played audio is that you mean, you replying audio from his press conference earlier about. Yeah, he sure he hits it, and it was a short press conference. There were two questions. One of them was aspirin. I get to that. In just second. What he had said was that look just forget the number one hundred nine he said don't worry about that. I have a hundred nine pledges, but the truth is all the other hundred forty nine members of the house besides himself that they are all going to be part of the house where they are Republicans or Democrats. He also said that he was going to keep a commitment to partisanship. As a legacy of greatness. That makes the Texas house stand out from other legislative bodies around the country. That was his quote the question that I asked him was whether or not he would commit to appointing Democrats too key committees, which has been a tradition in the Texas house, which is also something that makes the Texas legislature stand out from other legislative bodies around the country, and he in his answer to me. He did not say, yes or no. Didn't say for sure he was going to you know, point Democrats committees. Although he did say that he is committed to keeping the Texas house basically be a bipartisan institution he says that's a little bit. Okay. Scott Brad against Graddick on Twitter yester-, tell me what prompted your question though. Because. I mean again into the firebrand nature of no question of. Hold on. Let's let's go to y you asked that question. Yes. Her. So the reason I asked that question is because members of the Texas legislature have been telling us it corn report that they have heard a couple of different things about that. That that for some members they have heard from Bonnin and from his allies. But there would be no Democrats would be appointed to chairmanships. And then there are others who have said the exact opposite. So we simply wanted to have him on the record about that key question. And you know, it's also interesting that after Cherban's and said he was going to release a hundred nine commitments that speaker Joe Straus did say that he also supports abundance candidacy now, and it will be interesting to see what the folks at empower Texans have to say about his candidacy now that Strauss's wishing support. Yeah. That diminishing influence, I'm gonna ask you. Let's let's go. Off the beaten path he bring up you know, Howard Texans. This is how I characterize empower Texas to a local audience. Now, the the spokesperson four empowered Texan slandered. Bob, Duncan this is when you heard that Bob Dunkin good local reference financial descr that he was that what we heard in the beginning was that Bob Duncan was al-said by the board regions that takes tech because he misappropriated phones or done something shit. That was Michael Quinn Sullivan. The yester- hoax person for Boston Tim done who heads up empower Texans. What's way? Do they have at this point? Do you think that they're concerned? I think that they're sway is in flux. It's not clear, you know, there were chief organizing principle for years has been opposition to Joe Straus as speaker of that is what the financial funders of of empower types, including Tim done and the Wilkes brothers from Cisco Texas now that's been their main main objective of their main objective has been to get rid of Joe Straus, Strauss left on his own terms. And so now you have someone coming in who does have the backing of Strauss. Although we should say in fairness that did not appear that Joe Straus was trying to help up on and round up members for his candidacy. It looked like Strauss. I came on board after the the after the list of a hundred nine folks, then released read about the same time. So if so as far as where they're going to be on the bond candidacy, they have not really taken a strong position. In one way or another, and maybe they will in the in the near future. Yes. Scott Braddock with us here. We wanted to keep up the video or audio that runs his video on the computer here and other side studios. But U S question of Bonnin in Bonnin replied, I think Curtly would good a good edge to wish that you had consulted me or talk to me before he ran that piece. But people here that in its Bonnin taking on the press. Yes, there's a lot of concern about well on one hand, you got a God and Bonnin din, the spun who a lot of people think will be good formidable force to the Lieutenant governor. However, the Texas house speaker's role is to represent the chamber. Into consider bills within the chamber in how they moved through calendars and appropriations this that and the other. His response to you. I think demonstrated I don't overplay it. I think this is like fifteen percent bond like bonding can get really fired up. There are concerns that Bonnin could really lose his cool within the hundred forty day legislature. Would you make that there are some questions about chairman bonds temperaments? Yes, he he was a little Kurt with me. And that's not a problem. I can take it and I've known dentist for years. So like, you said that's Dennis bonded about fifteen or twenty percents. Maybe not even that, you know, he he can't get very fired up in the past. He was part of the speaker Straus team. And that's you know, as part of the team one of his jobs was to be the attack dog when it came to the Texas Senate, particularly when various pieces of tax legislation being debated between the two chambers. You know, look, I mean Democrats picked up seats in the Texas house in the Texas Senate in last week. Election, but Republicans maintained majorities in fairly comfortable majorities in both chambers. And so the reality is that it's not really, and this is always the case j Leeson when we get down to it when we get into the business of Texas since Republicans have been in charge. And by the way, it was also true. When Democrats ran both chambers of the Texas legislature, the real conflicts, the gin to be about the house versus the Senate, the Lieutenant governor versus the speaker, and you know, when those two don't agree on something a lot of times governor who would step in governor Perry was very strong in that role. Governor Abbott has not been as strong in that role as sort of refereeing the action between the two chambers. And like you've got to very strong willed people in Virginia governor, Patrick and potentially the speaker candidates Dennis Bonham, it'd be does actually take the chamber the sparks could definitely fly. We'll see you say if I've talked to people today who say this is a done deal is. Is it st- if or is it win? Well, it's about fifty seven days until they actually vote for speaker. I've been talking with some folks this afternoon about speakers races in the past. And for decades. This is the case for decades. No one has seen a speaker's race be declared over by so many people, you know, in November in early November. And so there is a ways to go here. The house members could could obviously changed their minds. But right now Dennis bond and is on track to be the next week or the house. I think that's fair who is who who were still candidates on the Republican side. Who do we have left? Well, Phil king dropped out. And for price dropped out. Travis Clark dropped out this afternoon. Are we left with anybody? We're guard. Guard Sandor Darby Darby is said to be out of the out of the running. I I think for the most part he we we had reported earlier in the day just to be clear about chairman Darby was that our sources were telling us that he had a told the folks those house members who heads committed their votes to him that he said they were free to do whatever they would like to do. So it does seem that his candidacy is over as well. Okay. Again effort on that. But I'm gonna ask you this question in now, we're getting into political weeds the Republican caucus decided just after the session right on the heels of the session that the next speaker right after Joe Strauss's announcement than expe- would be elected from the Ecorse series. No caucus jail. Right. Emmy, if somebody defied the caucus they have to vote on this on the floor, but. At the caucus would decide the Republican caucus would decide who the neck speaker was in. I've heard from members today in let me give you a couple of things that there was that Friday secret meeting France Sunday, it was a Sunday Sunday secret meeting that was run by the very folks who put forward the the rule in here. Let me being candid drew Springer dozen boroughs of Frank no longer with us. Ron Simmons routes a couple others and boroughs unlit. He's the caucus chair. Maybe he's acting caucus chair put forward of rule that we were going to have the next speaker run out of the caucus. But then they did when I've heard referred to today is an indirect on the into round their own rules. They defied. Their own rules and came up with bonding who had not made the pledge to be at that point. Exactly in that. I've heard terms like this a fruit of a poisonous tree is not admissible in court, but this is going to bear all sorts of bear bed fruit down the road. And also, the another analogy I heard today that I really appreciated is if you're charge was keeping the hin house. You should not be looking up chicken recipes. In the meantime, a lot of rancor within the house. I would think. Yeah. About how this process was run a process. It wasn't a process, but it's still a process. I think there's a lot of grumbling. Look the reality of what had been put in place for the Republican caucus was not that they were going to elect a speaker within the caucus. I think that's a narrative that is out there that is it's it's other for. Because there's never been a process set up by the caucus before to formally endorse a candidate. But what the caucus still on track to do is endorsed candidate for speaker? It looks now like that is likely Dennis. And but yes, all of this action that we've seen up until today comes before the scheduled meeting on December first of the Texas House Republican caucus to get together and go through their process to endorse a candidate or speaker of the Texas house. There's a lot of chatter in Austin today that that has now been rendered irrelevant. Although will continue to monitor the situation and see whether that is really the case. Like, I say there are roughly fifty seven days to go before the entire body actually votes on who the next speaker is going to be so things still could change. But I do think it's fair to say right now that Bonnin is track. Your last one to you hear brenick unless you've got her further. Details it listeners need to know. I'm told that around noon today's what a lead within the program around noon. A lot of the conversation. Here's vet school in. Let me clarify this again for listeners in for you. I think that there's a fair debate to be had about the vet school in the Nisa the necessity of another public institutes of higher education in Texas, providing of at school, albeit a large animal that school in Amarillo that is I think I think even Bob Dunkin would concede that that was a factor the largest factor in his housing for Texas Tech. It gets you. Big issue the grounds up here. Okay in. That's why bring this forward. I'm I'm not here pounding on the drum for the vet school, but just covering it like. Then you have to say the vet schools considerable factor in the region right now. Yes in all talk with four price about that coming up. But I think it is Morten Scott Radic that untold that it noon today ahead around noon. John short walked out of Dennis Vons office in a grin in now that might have been a political grin or gratifying grin or whatever. It might have been what what say you Scott Braddock on Dennis bond and Texas AM in what's become this huge issue here in west, Texas and Upper West Texas on the vet school or like, I'm not gonna speculate about John Schroder brand. It's a it's it's a it's a good question. I'm not saying that it's not. But, but I do know that John Sharp and Bonn and have been friends for a long time. And so I went on and and he. Had a conversation about him a potentially being attract to be that big of the house. I'm sure that that was a very positive conversation. I think that folks from all around the state need to be on guard about what the priorities are going to be of the Texas legislature. There you go to be on guard says Scott Braddock, and we'll hold it there. We're going to get in with our friend. Congressman Jody Ellington coming up. Ask him a couple of hard questions. But you say right where you are Arrington coming up right here on your other side state, right? 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They made with people all day. Yup. And that's what you have to do. Br I know that you've had meeting stacked up. We appreciate you making time. Congressman here's one store. I'll look at the map in. I I try to calibrate red and blue. A lot in correct me if I'm wrong, really. I would appreciate you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here's my sump Shen red cotton by in large is represented by rid representatives in that on the house and the Senate side if that is a correct assumption. Jodi, Errington and you being in the cotton metropolis. I mean, the Kuttan episodes. Yeah. The epicenter as gonna use like some some big bucks store terminology there. But you are in the cotton epicenter. Hell huge. Is it now that the Republicans of loss house that you in chairman Conaway? Mike Conway jot cotton into the form Bill under title one. Now that we see the blues and let me just lay this out. The blues. Vine large corn and dairy. Would there have been away for for cutting in losing the house to be under title one being the farm Bill? You know, it's good analysis, and I agree with you. And no, it would have been a very I think it'd been to people price if even we could get an ago, she to deal with the Deary guys, obviously that theory was part of that discussing hard to be quesion for permanently scoring title on. But no, we we, you know, it was a blessing in terms of the timing might being there gonna Wayne I'm saying the run up the table to be able to get that in. I just don't know we could reduce you to then I'm just grateful that it's there in holes implying, and it's law today, regardless I mean, we hope to get it from what they feel it. But but regardless of the outcome. Whether we got that Bill done on time, we get it down the next couple of weeks, which I believe we will or whatever the case cotton is restored to. And one, and it's the seed in land in it's and it's better of fix quite frankly, you think that the form Bill will get done. Lots of people say it's going to push off in the congress. Why the optimism? Well, because I've I've met with my Conaway in and he and Colin Peterson democrat from Minnesota. Who's a ranking member soon to be chairman in the hundred sixteen congress on the house side have finally agreement and this is a big breakthrough and they sent a consensus basically draft Bill to the Senate, and you know, Colin Peterson the good guy, and he and in the chairman of gotten along theory. Well, right up until the point that Nancy Pelosi put out orders, look democrat was allowed to vote for the Bill because of the work requirements stamp it Saturday, it was a midterm election political gamesmanship play, but kinda win is pretty conservative moderate democrat. And I'm not surprised that he and on away. Have found a path forward. Now, the question is what would be stamping out. Do it seems like he's running the Senate side Senator Roberts. I'm not very happy with the Senator deterement of Senate side because we have the majority in the Senate. We don't have control of it. Because of the sixty vote rule. But Jay, I mean, we have four corners of steel you got the House Republicans, the House Democrats was Senate Republicans incident immigrants, and we sent him without a single democrat because we believe so strongly that this wasn't opportunity to reform the welfare program of snap. The Senate did nothing and so just took the leg out from under us, and they made it almost impossible for my Conway and all on the house to negotiate much out of this nap program. I think it's gonna play out better it probably and improve tidal warning crew. Conservation and other components. But you know, if I just don't think getting a whole lot out of the snapper form, which is titled for so that's that's positive. I can't imagine. Now that the house is put a bipartisan piece of draft legislation over in the Senate. They're going to let this go any longer than a week or two, and I would be surprised next week the deal next week congressman Jody Errington making time with this year, the snap program, essentially think what we mean is food stamps. Is so to credit or discredit or whatever you wanna make out to be Pat Roberts is settled along that there will be no deal based upon snap. What's the political thinking there? Help us out is we listen to this got guys out there on the bowlers nail. Congressman you got a lot of people interested in agriculture. Why is Roberts made it a non to talk about snap in this conversation? You know, it's a mystery to me because I understand that we're not gonna get all the reforms to snap to to the food stamp program that we would like as conservative who happen to believe that it's actually the compassionate thing. Not just the right thing to do to incentivize people to work who can not those can't. But those, Dan. And I'm I just it's mystified by the fact that there was nothing put in there. I here's what I believe. And I I I'm sure Robert centered around which is good man and a decent, man. But it was weak. And I think I think it was more about expediency to get a farm Bill done. So you can check a box and put skin on the wall and saying man, we got the twenty eighteen Bill, and I would say it's much better for it. Strong out infrastructure. It's it's more flexible for first time farmers, and and it's got the right of best men into broadband for access to internet. It's a much more reliable safety net. So it is a it is a very good piece of legislation to be proud of. But when you're in the Republican majority and people elected conservative too. To to not just do part of the job, but do all of the job in terms of of making good legislation out of any anything. We're working on. But especially something that represents eighty five percent of the farm Bill funding or seventy eight million dollars a year. So I still just disappointed. I think my Conway's just done everything we can to drive some some effort my all of the parties negotiated negotiating so that we had some semblance of performing the food stamp Romo. See what happens? But again, I'm not I'm lacking breath on that one. Let me ask you this. Congressman Pat Roberts of Kansas up for re election twenty twenty. That's when his Nick Senate term foles in let me just thirty the curve ball here. Congressman do you think that it's that he saw the tea leaves, and Kansas Kansas could turn quite a bit purple within the two thousand eighteen election that he wanted to hold the hold on in tried to appeal to the middle to the political middle in Kansas is that what prompts all this. Well, you know, he didn't survive in politics this law being dummy. I mean, he's probably made those calculations. I don't know how much longer the guy has to serve in Senate. I not sure I think this'll be last form Bill and again, I'm not making any judgment on him as a person. But I just think it's unfortunate. It's I don't know if it was I think it's expediency, but you know, maybe there was political accusation. But I'll tell you this. We didn't have the time or the space. Or the oxygen in the room during the capitol hearing in the midterm elections to take this to the public. This polls about eighty this about seventy five percent across the board Republican democrat, independent people. Whether you're whatever your party preference Americans want other people were capable able bodied adult Americans to work in order to receive government assistance. And and so if we had the runway in the time, and we didn't get caught up and wrapped up in the midterms, and and the sort of all political theater, we could have taken this substantive argument to the American people, and I think President Trump would help us in places like well whether Michigan with Heidi with. Stab an hour or whether it's Kansas with Roberts. We would've taken it to the people. And and I'm convinced that when they knew what was going on. They would've put tremendous pressure on the Senate to do something something reasonable like what my Conway proposed in. What we supported in the house just twenty hour workweeks or volunteer week or training weeks, twenty hours breakable buddy to dealt. So it's hard to believe that we can't get that through. But it tells you to me just how the established welfare culture is in Washington. Let alone the entitlement culture, we have in this country. And it's sad. It's importunate. And I think it's aiding and abetting that culture by allowing this program to continue with that reforming it, but I'm not gonna tie up the farm Bill. And the farm policies and safety net on account of food stamps is much as I'd like to fight this for another several months or year, if we had to it's not worth it because we've had too much drought and cost and fall out from trade, and they're just been too many curveballs grown to our producers than they need this thing, they need to certainty, and I'm gonna I'm gonna stand and be candid with those who were gonna push this farm Bill over the line. I'm telling you, I've been tell you right now, I'm not voting against the farm Bill. That has the things that we need for west Texas to thrive and prosper, you you went into Heidi Heitkamp, and I think that you just got the word Heidi out before you win. But of course, she lost there in North Dakota some writing that. You and some other Republicans on the wall. Yeah. Well, we saw we saw you of them. And and I think that on the sell side or we should be. Where we we have some points on the house side or flip Democrats and Republican and then ultimately, obviously a thirty plus a margin. Now, the house with Democrats having the majority, but yeah, the Senate. I wish we had this margin. J the Senate when we passed the healthcare the ObamaCare repeal where we fully repealed and reformed healthcare not just the individual mandate, which we put in the tax reform Bill if you remember the famous dumbs down from John McCain, we were one vote, and that's when we had fifty one majority now, we'll have fifty three. So, you know, you just you don't know what it could have said as you just do, you know, we got it out of the house. We did what we thought was right? I remember the conference leadership in the house saying, you know, I was I was demanding that we put more pressure on the Senate. I remember people say, well, that's not really keeping with sort of custom and decorum congressional decorum. We sorta let those guys do their thing we do our thing. And I said, I don't know about y'all when I go back home, not many people make the distinction between house and Senate. They say. Congress isn't doing the job congress worn to Corum. Yeah. Take me into the room. Joe Harrington take me into the room the night year staff is punching out the numbers in look out alluded this before on the program. I know that you had your district. Pretty well nil down in the reelection that you were out doing what people who want to Spar to leadership do and they go out in the campaign for other, folks. And you were you were doing both this same time, you're pushing the clutch and the gas that same time and. All it to say take me of the room whenever you fund out that the congress has lost the house that al-sudeiri you're gonna have to go and count the figuring out where the paper clips are the minority side for where the offices on how disappointed where you that night. Did you cuss? You know, if I thought it would help that probably would. But I don't think I think I think is much as I was cautiously optimistic we had a chance because the Tommy was so good day. I mean, the policies that we put in place, we're worse. You're seeing did cuss. No, I think I just sat there in in a to b break I had mixed emotions because I we won by fifty percent margin, not not necessarily because I hope it's because the folks in west Texas think we're doing a great job. And that we're being good voice for them. And that, but I know it's because we are in many ways the last bastion of of principled red hot conservative, even in the state of Texas. We carried Senator Cruz by what was it? The seventy percent win margin in my district Thornberry's in Connolly's. So I was proud to have that be reflected to my peers in congress of the values in the core beliefs of the people of west Texas at the same time, you know, we lost. People that were friends of mine that I have tremendous team for and in a good relationship and friendship. And so, and then there was the the notion of Pelosi having the gavel, and I don't have much hope for constructive governing. Maybe they'll be some pockets of that on the VA and other places, but I see a lot of it -struction. I see more cabin all, but just you know, chapter two three and four mostly to the top the president. So I mean, it was just a it was a night that you should be happy that you one and that the people of your district are placing their confidence in you again to continue as their Representative at the same time. You know, Jay, we spent a lot of time and effort to raise about a million dollars for people around the country. And that's I don't know if that's ever been done before in west tech. But we had a lot of people from around this district. Who believed that that that when you are in the district is conservative is hours when you have a safer seat in the general. We've gotta do everything we can to help keep the majority, and I traveled around the state, I traveled beyond the district and and look. Selfishly? I mean eight that's good for the cause. It's good for our conservative agenda. It would have been good. If we kept the house. It's good for west, Texas because we sh- we demonstrated leadership and we made the sacrifices to do that. And as I've said to you before. And I've said to you your audience, we have to be leaders, and we have to be in leadership because we can't just be vote and make a difference for rural America and west Texas and all that's good about west, Texas. So in some ways, we're setting the table for us to hopefully in a much stronger leadership position coming in when we do get the majority, and look I was the only Republican freshmen at a Texas now, they're five new freshman coming. So, you know, we also moving up in that regard to so not always lost. We'll find to be productive with the fan. The policies we put in place, and we'll get a farm Bill done, and we'll continue to to to to be leaders in our conference. But. So congressman doesn't not give you more weight now to say, you know, a million dollars. Let's put that up his precedents. But also who delivered the votes for Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz did not have the commercials on in the major metropolitan within the triangle DFW Austin to Houston that he had up here. And does it not give you some weight in congressman with some of these some of these larger Republican senators to say, look, we aren't gonna do the school choice thing we're going to do rural investment because in in rural infrastructure, we're going to look at this farm Bill in we need your attention here because you would not have been here without districts like mine in Conway in Thornberry cetera. Then they give you ground on that front as well. Absolutely, it absolutely strengthens our conversation with look, I Senator Cruz is is a is a friend. He's been a guy that I've enjoyed getting to know better. You know? You know, doing professionally now known as Brennan colleague. I mean, I sent that article that the printed that talked about that seventy percent win margin coming out of west, Texas. And you know, I'm gonna make sure that we continue to remind when we have conversations leading up to the farm Bill which could happen in the next week or two. So yeah, I think it's drinking our hand because rural Republicans they carried the day with closing carbon the swing states, and I told that to the president in a respectful way every time I met with him. If you recall, I kept saying rule, America's for you arms. Rangers. Don't forget our guys. And I I you know that that's certainly going to be a similar mantra and a similar message to who my cynic kind of lakes. Yeah. I think it does. Okay. Well, I think he did a good job of in the sooner view, a critique you a good job of of couching your disgust whenever you out that you'd lost the house, but he'll that's what longtime receive Jodi Ellington. They look at it. And they say, we'll we'll see what happens next summer. Well, if my mom ever thought, I costing she listens to you. Religiously seem like come up here. Slap me around in front of my, you know, grown grown men and women college. So I'm I'm I when for the record I didn't curse I just I just felt a little ambivalent that night emotionally. Okay. Mom. Well, I'm sure they she'll here that hear you say that thank you to that message Errington. And also, I want to just ease anything as we get off with you here. I told you that since you text messages said that we won at the auction that our elementary school. Russell Wilson a memory here in Lubbock. We won the the luncheon with the congressman I will not send the four year old in for you to monitor him at the chick fillet playground. It will be the eleven year old girl in I'm really look forward to her having lunch. Well, respectful, and it won't be nearly the trouble you the head with Charlie on the playground. Well, I look forward to use your good family, man. And your kids are good kids. And I can't wait sit down. And just listen it's been it's been what three years day since again. I I bet and got to know each other maybe four years, and we've talked a lot about the things that you're doing the things that that I'm able to do now thanks to the people west, Texas. And man, we were finally in a place where we can we can make a difference for our folks. And and the people that don't don't have the voice that they ought to have. And it's it's kinda neat. How it's all playing out and even at election like listen, how Republicans are kind of pulling more than their way doing more than their share. I don't think we're not gonna take full advantage of that. But I'm proud to be from from from HALE county like you, and I'm I'm Pat to be voice. For west exit alongside the likes of my Conaway. So God bless you, buddy. Thanks for the time. And and then take it easy on me on the the the restaurant don't go fancy steak house or something like that. You know, public servant. I'm pretty sure that it's going to be a a hamburger steak at Bruns. There is congress hearing didn't think for the time. But all right. You to go west Texas hill Kelly forever there. He is congressman Jody airing. Tune in sick, right? They're going to break down. Breakdown. On the other side. Beddoe twenty twenty. Awesome. Erik statesman saying. At least an opinion piece. We think he's going to run. What do you think about daylight savings when they get into that is well tomorrow, but for now, I'm gonna get home. I gotta get home. We got Mahomes day night football coming up Monday night football, Patrick, Mahomes versus the LA Rams in London. Good stuff waiting for just love that. My boys are twins twin nine year olds or out of school right now, we can go home, and we can watch that. So. For my above average, family and Massari my great family. Great family. I did say my great family in above average dinner. Appreciate you. Tune in to this edition of the program. It gets your thoughts. Anything we need to be covering J at other side of Texas dot com. 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The train shed at union station hair saloon for men and you'll receive the perfect haircut complimentary beverage relaxing shampoo. Hot Towel and amend complimentary shoeshine all for just twenty two dollars hair saloon for men. It's our weekly weekly visit with Derek Gould of the Saint Louis Post dispatch and St L.. Today DOT COM and Derek there is so much to get into And obviously a a lot of it would be concerning normally at this point what. The cardinals may do and Nolan. Aeronautic will get into that and what His transpired with a trade with Tampa Bay. First and foremost has to be The Hammer came down on Houston yesterday. Aj hinch fired Jeff. Luneau fired There's there's obviously a scandal in in terms of stealing signs and how that reverberates throughout the game time will tell and they're still more to come just your initial thoughts and what happened with the Houston Astros reading through the the the release for Major League. Baseball I thought it was interesting. Like you know I I understand the school of thought. I'm intrigued by that. Major League. Baseball forced the Astros hands with the firing right. So Major League baseball suspended hinch and Luneau for the next next season for the entirety. This season starts their suspension started immediately and it went until the day after the twenty twenty world series and I wonder if that effectively actively fired them. Because how do you run a team for an entire year and and team assurer era major league baseball that the GM isn't involved that the manager isn't involved. Managers are jetted from Games all the time and yet still are somewhat involved in them. They just aren't in the dugout and we know this and we've seen examples of it. You know not everybody puts on a fake Moustache and returns to the dugout but their influence influence is there. How do you assure Major League baseball that these suspensions are good? They're the really if you pull that thread too far The answer is you. Fire Them And I thought that aspect was really interesting You know it's a steep penalty. I thought it was interesting. The investigation allegation said that you know. Look they cooperated with the investigation. they did not find that Luna was at fault for this. There was a definite sting In the release of the Houston Astros Culture. Which is something that I've written about in the post-dispatch That we you know. A lot of people have talked about in baseball. The you and I have discussed disgust. you know what kind of you know were they the villain of baseball and where they comfortable with it. Where did they like their win at all cost attitude? You know the whistles and all this stuff And then came the comments and you know loons comment was sorta like sorry not sorry. I didn't know what was going on. Have a good time with of your little game. I'll go on and make him a lot of money elsewhere Hinges public comment. His statement was a lot more apologetic. And you know sort of I was in in charge of this. This went on under my watch He did not mention And maybe should have but at least it's out there that he mocked this at one point in time. Remember he was asked directly about the whistles an assigned stealing and he basically made it a joke and no joke man. This this this is now. Come down hard on you. Not I don't think I think he'll be back in the game. I don't know if Luna WanNa be back in the game nationally in both. These guys are done now. No I don't think inches I I mean I don't I don't think so You know I mean I think I mean he's really well regarded In in baseball. We we've seen people take tumbles we've seen players with a lot of talent get suspended and return We've seen people like that. I'm Alex Cora's whereas name was in the investigation report. Eleven Times okay now. No penalty came his way in this one. But that's not because he's not gonNA be penalized. That's because there's another investigation with the team. He runs I think if there's a uniformed member who comes out of this and you you wonder like where does he fit in baseball in the future. Man Alex Cora's in a bind. I was Gonna go that direction but there's so many tentacles to this some of it relates. It may be to Saint Louis into that but Do you think it taints the world championship that they picked the dodgers. Yeah absolutely an but but I am not one that they should vacate it. I don't I don't buy that I don't like that. I don't like that idea at all. I don't think there should be a blank. I don't like the college football does that. I don't like they college basketball does because we all saw with our eyes who won. You can't erase history. What you need to do is explain history like you know let people know? Oh that like the astros of two thousand seventeen you know whenever we talk about them as a world series champ. Let's tell the story of what then followed That's that's my view of history is like I don't I think you should you know lacquer it over by erasing it and saying Oh. The dodgers are World Series Jim. They're not. We watched. That happened. Do you you think that this punishment fit the crime. Is it hard enough. No what would you have done. Or what are your colleagues saying to you about that. Well I haven't talked to too many on my. I read some this morning but I haven't reached out and talked to him. My My This this obviously is somewhat. I mean is it. It's not on my beat and it wasn't you know and I asked you write this assignment yesterday so I haven't really reached around and talk to a lot of people we will this spring. I will today you know to be candid it Try Be honest with you that I haven't done but I have read a lot. A my initial reaction was does it fit the president that the that they set for the cardinals right okay and so does it well. I think you could argue. It doesn't Now it's important to note. The Korea was Banned for life from baseball because he did not cooperate with the investigation Atlanta's general manager was banned for life from baseball after the investigation education into how he used international money because he did not cooperate and misled the investigation. In this case there weren't any banned from baseball because they cooperate. It's okay so that's in line with the president. What gets me is this is when the cardinals were punished? They gave picks to Houston when Houston's punished they lose picks where those picks going isn't. Would it not be president for the Astros to give picks to every team. They played at home in twenty seventeen or lease the teams they played in the playoffs here. Two Picks Yankees here are two picks. Dodgers yet really stinks. You guys didn't advance in the trophies in Houston. Go Get your another one you know. I mean that. That's that's the precedent right and I wouldn't have I wouldn't have balked at that would baseball Would I mean with the with the other teams have an issue with that maybe be but you know there were teams directly impacted by the Houston Astros actions just like the Astros claim. They were directly reckless impacted by the cardinals actions and those teams did not get restitution in fact those teams were told. Don't comment under penalty at that. Doesn't that seems awed. Blues fans joined the Party all season long at hotshot sports bar and Grill and one of their eleven area locations rate food and drink specials available during every blues game team. Is Your home for Blues Hockey Remembered. The Blue scored five any game. This season you get hotshots legendary tacos for one dollar each the next day. Find a hotshots near you at hotshots shots net dot com proud partner of the Louis Blues. I hope you know about this. Sh- nukes rewards. If for some reason you don't wear have you been the whole city has been downloading this if you chinooks rewards member you're going to earn points and the next time you're chinooks. You can use those points for money off digital coupons on the items you want most download those chinooks rewards boards APP. Get the APP that gets you for fans that are curious about Jeff Albert. Yeah He was with the astros in two thousand seventeen. So is in the minors I. He's in the minor leagues. Yeah Jeff Albert. Can you explain what his role was with the club at that time with Houston and twenty seventeen in two thousand seventeen and then how this may be trickles down to him. If at all Jesse clear that thing up and gives him info on. I'll do my best. You know in the whole whistling thing thank him. I asked him about it because he was with the team. At that time he was in the majors. He was one of the hitting coaches with the Astros in the majors at the time of the whistling Allegations nations and at the time of the Employees taking photos with the perception that they were trying to steal signs. And then they're really awful. You know double agent defense where they're like no. We were trying to defend against our science. Whatever I mean? This is a that that that is a that is an eye roll with a gravitational pull You know so Albert was I asked him about it and you know he said he did not I mean what's he gonNa tell me but he said I did. Not You know I was not involved in that I was not part of that. This was my role. My role was scouting and prep and work in the cage. And you know really kinda getting. Um I'm transfer pitchers and a lot of things at the cardinals hired him to do which was advanced a work on the use of tack for swings the use of tech for approach and then the use of advanced analytics for scouting okay so that was his role with that was in eighteen. Twenty seventeen he was in the minors and he was doing a lot of the same stuff. Nurturing minor league hitters and preparing them for big league get Bats big-league approach. What kind of information What kind of fundamentals do you need in your swing? How do we measure your swing? Whether that's launch angle old awar- exit velocity or any of those things. How do we work on that okay? That was his role in two thousand seventeen which is which was the thrust of this investigation negation There was an element of twenty eighteen. Brought into this would overlap when he was there and the Astros were found to have you. You know been in violation then as well He participated with the investigation. Major League. Baseball at LE- I believe met with him at least twice. certainly The cardinals were aware of this The cardinals met with Albert. Asked him what he knew. Just along with Major League Baseball asked him what he knew Yesterday when the Fennell you know when the when the final report came out I reached out. I'm I spoke with somebody in the know From Major League Baseball not attached to either team Who was aware of the investigation and all the different corners that looked into and I asked is Jeff Albert facing future punishment or is his name going to be tied to any of this and I was told no I was GONNA say? He was cooperative And that he was helpful and that he does not face anything or not being tied His name I've read the through the fantasies name in there. I was told his name was not expected to be in there You know so you know but he he has you know he has cooperated throughout the whole thing couple of guys and we mentioned one name earlier. that I think it's fascinating what happens now with Alex Cora. Yeah Yeah and the other one would be Carlos Beltran Yeah To Gaza Karnal ties absolutely and Carlos. Beltran definitely corre. Maybe a little bit most feel. Don't probably know his cardinal tie. Well Beltran Let's start with him. I I think it's fascinating that here's a manager. Now of the mets urine in that public of an area of our country in New York in the media is going to be all over that team with that team and he was a player on the two thousand seventeen in Houston Astros And they've tried to make a and I say they major league baseball on this investigation. Correct me if I'm wrong. More of a look at those that were in uniform as a coach or manager not necessarily the players getting hammered on this well that's the bounds of the commissioners. You know scope exactly of influence. That's right what happens though as we move forward with this and Carlos Beltran arrives in spring training. And he's going to explain it. He's going to be asked about this nonstop. It's going to be a fascinating corridor there on the east coast of Florida because you got Beltran then cardinals marlins and then astros nationals. Yeah and you you know the mets have a stake in this issue or at least have questions as you know. Is it revolt the cardinals do they've been told not to comment on this mind. You Just like other teams. Have I don't think bell Franken's skate with the notion that like we'll major league. Baseball has told me not to comment on this. That won't last very long. So they gotta figure out something there at the Matt and then you go down to West Palm and you got the reigning World Series Champs that team they beat in the world series. Mind you the team. They beat four times at home to to win the world series and the Astros who are facing this and now are I mean. They're staring down. Not I mean chaos and also so possibly the end of a really good team That has to recover from this and maybe has a lot dimmer future so I think it's an an interesting quarter. What Beltran faces fascinating? I mean the reason why players aren't mentioned in this is because you go through the Union to punish players right it it is a direct line for For Major League Baseball to go from the Commissioner's Office to punishing owners. Front office and coaches and staff that is a direct line. Do not have to go through anybody you think. Alex Cora survives us. I'm well he's man. I mean he was in. He's a coach so no no no. It's I don't know how his punishment isn't going to be more severe and the like we talked about. At the beginning the punishment was such. It's that it set the stage for the firing. What was cranes boast to do? Hey Geoff take a year off right you know go you know. Go and go go find an island somewhere and You know we won't talk to you for I mean I'd I don't know how that would operate. I agree you know I can somewhat somewhat see if an owner were suspended for your because we saw that how would they operate But a general manager of a team and a manager Wick would if hinch serve this movie. Come back as manager. What about the guy who served the whole year? What about Sean Payton? No in the NFL when he had his deal. Yeah yeah that's a good example. Yeah that's interesting interesting games. Yeah it's a little different. It's a year I mean it's it's different sport by Yang. I'm yeah survived it Yeah and thrived arrived yes and do well. Yeah that's a that's a good example I don't know what do you think. Do you think that they that hinch come back. I do think that. Aj hinch will. Oh come back to the astros that have been very tough I think he'll be a man I mean. I think he'll be a bench coach. Maybe a manager somewhere absolutely. I think if you're the owner You've gotta take this in and it had been already addressed. And then obviously they didn't pay attention to it or wanted not to pay attention to it now and all of a said you're doing what the commissioner said you can't do right If you're Jim Crane I think is only option was to handover. Yeah and just try to move interesting. Yeah I think that's the only way you can do it. Even though that those two guys have been instrumental in getting them a lot of wins and probably making Jim Crane a lot of money But still still you gotta do what you gotTa do funny. Because he saved he might have saved the money That he was fined five million bucks. No I know but like now he doesn't have to pay hinch that in the next contract. Now he doesn't have to renegotiate Lou now for his next contract. Well now you're GONNA have to pay somebody no but it can be lower right right. You can go get like some guys who are really eager to be first timers who do you go get I think that's fascinating to you. Almost have to get somebody that has no ties really believe so you think so. I like this bottom and I think his time is I mean win. Is he going to get a chance. And I'll tell you the other guy that I would love to see. Get a chance as Moyes Moyes. Rodriguez goes is St Louis Service. Yep He's GONNA surface as a GM candidate not not absolutely. I don't know if if it will be with Houston because of what has transpired inspired and rest Raya and I don't you know I don't know how. And he had nothing to do with it but he had nothing to do with clear. Yeah Yeah but the just the connections are raw between these teams not right Mo- you know met with crane we go we we can get in the way back. Machine backed William. I remember. Remember years ago Mo- interviewed for the GM job in Houston ripe when he was assistant general manager with Karnal so and then John Mosaic Mo- After two thousand eleven while he's trying to negotiate the deal with poodles steps aside goes and meets privately with crane and stumps for Luneau says. This is a guy who can lead a baseball ops. This you know gave him a recommendation. Luneau thanked Mo for helping boost his chances there. Because you remember I mean there are a lot of people that were like equaled Luna. Oh you know what what fracture did he create. What the cardinals is he going to be a fit the scouts you know with the whole common Joe Straus on the late Joe Straus wrote that story about how scouser calling him Harry Potter and asking you know when it was he gonNA show up with his Wand Neil Mozilla to his credit? He lost an employee but he went and talked to cranium. Animals like this is the guy you're getting. This is what you know so I don. The tensions are raw and then and then of course what happened. Was You know Houston tried to poach so many of the Astros Or I'm sorry. The Astros tried to post so many Arnold for an office people At one point time moe was like this has got to stop you know enough already and one of the guys that he put the you know. The firewall between I mean actually pun intended the firewall between Houston and then was Chris. Correa you said you. Can't you gotTa stop hiring these guys now. And how far does this go right. Like like even the Orioles have to answer a question right because their front office was pulled old from the success of the twenty seventeen Astros right and their front office also came from the two thousand eleven cardinals else. I would think that the one of the first conversations that is going to be in major league club houses this spring including the cardinals is gentlemen. This is how we do business. And I I'm not GonNa say it's going to deter every single player or coach or manager whatever but man the you can't draft picks her so valuable now in the game and after what's been handed down and after the commissioners come out and drop the hammer that it's going to be addressed immediately about cleaning all this stuff up none of no more. Hey you know this and and I think you just put it really well that that this is how we do business There's another phrase for it but that isn't that a conversation. Tony would have in spring training with the clubhouse something along those lines. Here's where the edges are. Yeah here's how far we go into them. And here's where you cross them for me. How far do I was thinking about this today? I mean isn't one rank something he articulated with technology. The way it is today. Oh it's different. Yeah I'm I'm wondering Even back let's say ten years ago. How much of this kind of stuff was going on? I mean video is such an important part of the game. Yeah it just is what it is is now but With cameras in stadiums and I any stadium go to every games on television. Every guys getting looked at on video I am curious. Assist to how far this goes beyond two thousand seventeen. This is the example because now it's been proven But how far does this go back. And and who else was involved. I mean you have the Pandora's box being opened up around Major League baseball that will go. Well beyond Alex Cora Carlos Beltran. What's possible I mean there's been the question of the guy in the white shirt certain Toronto You know the rockies had issues at their ballpark right Phillies of twice. I think it's the phillies twice with the binoculars. That's might appointment You have than they have Boston with the apple watches. You know Latte Two years ago no eight. Was it this past year. Was this past year. Spring Training The Car Major League Baseball came through and outfitted the catchers and pitchers with apple watches. You know for bullpens and they tried to see if that is a way to create a direct line for signs to limit like if those two watches are the only things that can communicate with each other. You know is that a way to avoid. Signed sealed was cumbersome They were trying to well. How about Yati going out and not much was made of it but there have been times that he goes out visits with? The pitcher goes behind the plate and doesn't put a sign down. He's doing that. It's for does it all the time and you know I mean Pittsburgh I used to be but here there's a there's a difference though it. Can we be honest sometimes. It's defensive alignment. It's it's it's you bring the guys and you say. Hey here's this. Oh yeah yeah as but I mean no but I mean the way. Pittsburgh was stealing signs okay like or the cardinals perceived them to be seen so whatever whatever we're supposed to say That was different. That was a runner. Honor on second base. That runner had earned second base. He had gotten to second base and he was giving signs back to the hitter. I remember problem with that. There was nobody on. Oh do you I do remember. I was trying to look back Automated Been Milwaukee or Milwaukee so that was the question with Milwaukee right okay was in the and and that was my understanding. Is there nobody on my right about that. I think you are. Yeah but Pittsburgh. It was with a runner on base a point we said boy that's interesting. He goes buying the Platon. Doesn't drown down here. Yeah they just kept going. It was in Pittsburgh when he stopped giving signs An remember who the picture was on the mound. Yeah Did he stopped giving signs at all and Clint Hurdle. And all. That's an all those folks brought it up But it was when a runner was second base and then he just did it for the remainder of the game. I know there's a lot of fans that are listening to this. And they're saying argh get to Nolan. Aeronautica kill we want to see this guy play third base interview today and a Guy said what do you think about that I. I don't know you're you're talking about everybody's talking about it. So what are you here. What's the latest on Nolan Auto? Yeah I mean you know the the interest is there from the cardinals point of view You know and the and the the riddle is also there. I mean you know. One of the things that W- We know from trade discussions right as its behold as corals have to figure out like the rockies trying to measure what's the rockies motivation here rent are they trying to understand his value is or now is are not pushing to be out is that is that what the bind the rockies are in or are they not interested in moving at all and they're just going through this dance you know two maybe peas him for a little bit and then get into spring training. See if all as well You know as a team you gotta look at that and go okay Well then how aggressive can we be you know. How much energy should we spend on this And how tricky is that. OPT OUT CLAUSE. Can you talk to Erin Auto Can You you talk to the Rockies to give you permission to talk to earn auto about that opt out because what the rockies want in return And what a team like the cardinals finals will be willing to give pivots entirely around that. Opt Out I know that the cardinals are not real keen on adding thirty five million million dollar salary to the next year's payroll to the year after that payroll You know so they'd have to come to grips with that is. Is this the player ear that they stretched to do that on. What kind of bind does that? Put them in Two Years From now Jack Flaherty you know real well. I mean a year from now now when Jack clarity hits arbitration in two years from now when he starts you know you either have them on an extension or you're like getting punched in the gut for his cost And other players to Hicks You know all those guys are on deck for arbitration. So how much do you want your payroll for twenty twenty the two Isolated around two players. I mean that would be fifty one million dollars on your corner infielders I I. I'm just going to throw out there. What do you think spring training hits? Is he a Saint Louis Cardinal. I think he's Iraqi and Spring Training To Start and then we see not exactly who is pushing this if he is unhappy If he does not want to be there then I think it it pushes now I it could be this thing who knows I mean a candidate imminent in talking with people. I'm not sure they know how fast this could move But the sense is that like look you know. Oh his eagerness to stick around I mean. Twelve months ago he agreed to an eight year. Two hundred sixty million dollar deal did not want to go into the market SOFRI agency as a place that was basically you know an a frost zone And said I'd rather stick around and like what we got going with the rockies. I mean you look at the comments. They were like this team built a win. There was a lot of optimism. Does one year undo that maybe maybe he was disenchanted after one year. But you know what at some point in time that's going to have to reveal itself and it couldn't spring what do you think it would take to get them I think it would take this goes back to the rockies. His motivation I'd like to. I mean really like to know what they're trying to argue they just wanted to divest themselves of a salary So that they can then either save money or a pivot and keep Trevor Story Do an extension with him Do they just want to dump salary. Allah the Marlins and then the deal looks like Stanton. I don't think that doesn't seem to be them Do they want a quick reset which would mean SORTA like what took to get Goldschmidt where there were major league players involved players that went right into the major league team. or do they want the control and they plan a rebuild And that means they want talent from a few years down the line you know it. It does seem like you know that they're going to ask for the world that that that's the rockies Mo on that's a where the cardinals have had issues before Come into a deal with the rockies. They just don't seem to connect on what's reasonable on the rocket from from the Carl's perspective the rockies ask for unreasonable But they're not gonNA talk flaherty in that deal. They're not GonNa Talk Dylan. Carlson that deal You know if they talk Nolan Gorman then he's probably going to be the centerpiece of that deal if they talk Andrew Kisner then you know there are at least now in a position where they could probably have that conversation You know the the if they're gonNA talk air some Baiter in that deal again the cardinals. And that's the one that like if the rockies were to talk I mean it makes so much sense for the rockies but you know he Carl's have the depth to have the conversation less so today than they did fourteen days ago but they could could C- c- like at least the trace outline of where the cardinals would like to go with those conversations in terms of. Yeah you know naming that that would be that again goes goes to the fact that like you know one of the things is when you see trade deal. Speculated like always look at it from both sides and like what does a team get out of it. It you know like Like the rockies are trading one of the best all around players in the game if they go through with this they're gonNA want certainty in return turn and they're gonNA want control in return. You don't package together four guys who don't have an everyday role with the cardinals and say because I recognize. Is there names here you go rockies. Now they might work out they might not the Iraqis aren't GonNa do that rockies. We want this to work out. Look I mean again. Look at look at the trades that it it took to get a SUNA and You Know Goldschmidt or even like look at the trade for Stanton or You know sale AOL or any of these other like superstars that have moved. There's a sure thing in each of those deals sometimes to Sure things so you know when the Marlins Got Santiago Contra. They knew what they were getting. You know turns out he was there. All Star Rep and everything like that. But they knew what they were. They knew he was a sure thing. Same with Carson Kelly and Luke Weaver now some of them have approved upon it but they at least knew what they were. If you trade some of the names had been kicked around out there to the rockies which one is the shirt the thing which which one which one's the everyday player which which one's the the certainty for the rotation man you have to keep that in mind the trade with Tampa Bay A lot of people looked at the lefty they came over and say oh you flip them What was your take on the trade? Well that it fit exactly really what the cardinals talked about doing all. It was finally like the deal that they were talking about doing Dan. You know they enter the winter and they said we WANNA turn are out outfield access of right handed batters. We WanNA turn them that depth into Things we need and and where that might begin is lefthanded depth. They don't have a whole lot of left handed starting depth or pitching depth for that matter They've worked worked on over the last year year and a half Obviously they drafted Zac Thompson Onto Kentucky. That was one of those best available and thinking as he was left. Economy moves on. They traded for Genesis Cabrera from the same team You know that was a move to create to add some depth Justin Williams left handed hitting outfielder. The only one on the forty man who wasn't a switch hitter? You know so you know you can see how they wanted to improve this and they said that You know then they end up turning a Dole Solas Garcia into cash because they have to create room on the forty man. Well that didn't do it You know they tried to engage teams in talks about tyler. O.`Neil and you know the rays had talked to them about Jose Martinez. I believe as far back as the trade deadline with an idea of D. H.. In with him being the D. H.. I'm so you could see how they were Sort of canvassing teams who wanted right handed hitting Alfie. Texas was the top one And Ordeal H.. And trying to get the lefty the matches and then they go and get a top prospect in exchange with us. I think it's interesting that the corals have now traded three right right handed hitting outfielders from their forty man roster and have yet to add a player for twenty twenty. Does it And we'll wrap it up with this question. Does it give you any clarity. In your opinion on Dylan when Carlson or Marcello fitting into the opening day roster for the cardinals does not does does not at any to me enor- to Nor nor when I checked around I mean the I mean Dylan Carlson. There's two thoughts on this right. There's like the public comments. And then there's the reality -ality is that the way to phrase that okay so the public comments are don't put a whole lot on him don't you know. Don't build him up. So if he doesn't make the opening day lineup or the opening day roster auster on that. It's a failure that that is definitely part of what's driving their comments. They're not gonNA over hype him. They're not GonNa cop you know say we expect them to be part of the season they want. They want to create a thing where he is competing and he overtakes and but if it doesn't happen that he's not like I failed older. I didn't reach their expectations. Okay right so it's managing expectations with their public comments. Internally there like this guy could storm his way into to being the starting outfielder and we need to be prepared for that. We need to not have a roadblock in his way. This is the talent coming busy weekend. We got the winner warm up winter warmer hard-nosed Caravan get the writers dinner and still some tickets available. Yeah Metro Ticks Sto BWI DOT ORG That's the website so other place you can go and get tickets big night Sort of the the evening that announces the arrival of baseball season The Red Shany's award for lifelong commitment to baseball going to certain hall of Famer. Ted Simmons and the The Branch Rickey Award for Innovation Baseball. These are two two are two signature award or really proud of him Going to Bill James. Who Even in our conversation here today? You know you probably recognize how we we talk differently about. Baseball in the game is played differently in the game is managed differently and certainly the business. Baseball is different because of Bill James So he's he's coming in To receive the brand new and many other things clarity's baseball man of the year. Paul Goldschmidt wins. The Darryl kile award voted on by his peers. Miles Mike Klis will introduce as Paul Goldschmidt so that should be a moment and then we have some other things. Extra hour will be there at the dinner. I'm so first time players showing up for the dinner and and Some guys who have made it a habit to come to the dinner going to be there. Awesome and the gold glove Go on and on the actual gold glove will be there for Colton Long. The actual manager of the year award will be there for my. She'll she'll receive it for the first time in Saint Louis and we hope he keeps it in time to go to New York And then Those lots lots to happen. Thank you sir. Yeah Yeah. Jim's actually looking forward to this Elsia warm bright you got it. I'll see you then. And then at the the writers dinner on Sunday excellent.

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The Economist - Editor's picks - Mar 9th-15th 2019

The Economist: Editor's Picks

31:18 min | 1 year ago

The Economist - Editor's picks - Mar 9th-15th 2019

"March ninth to March fifteenth two thousand and nineteen four the economist. These are the editor's picks every week in this program. We present a communist editors sunny Minton better selection from this week sedition of the economist newspaper. Are covered. This week reports on the new scramble for Africa, the nineteenth century contest was for land and plunder the Cold War. One was over ideology today countries, including China Turkey and India are rushing to strengthen the Matic strategic and Commercial Times drawn by Africa's growing population as much as it's results from twenty ten to twenty sixteen more than three hundred and twenty new embassies was set up in Africa improbably the biggest diplomacy boom ever, foreigners are building ports and factories selling insurance and banking and bringing technology for mobile phones and e commerce the foreigners expect to do. Well from all this, but Africans themselves could do best of all. Also in this week's editor's picks, Texas politics twilight in Austin, humbled Republicans are trying to maintain their longtime grip over the Lone Star state by focusing on bread and butter issues. And Russia Putin tries to build an internet as Russian television viewers shift online the state tries to maintain control. To hear every article from this week's issue of the economist. Subscribe now at economists dot com forward slash subscribe and get the full picture. Leaders. The new scramble for Africa. This time. The winners could be Africans themselves. The first great surge of foreign interest in Africa. Darby scrambled was were nineteenth century, European colonists. Carved up the continent and seized Africans land the second was during the Cold War when east and west vied for the allegiance of newly independent African states the Soviet Union backed Marxist Thailand, Sweileh Medica, propped up despots who claim to believe in capitalism. A third surge now underway ease more benign outsiders have noticed that the continent is important and becoming more so not least because of its growing share of the global population by twenty twenty five the UN predicts that there will be more Africans than Chinese people governments and businesses from all around the world are rushing to strengthen diplomatic strategic and commercial ties. This creates vast opportunities if Africa handles the new scramble wisely. The main winners will be African. Themselves. The extent of photo. Nick, gage -ment is unprecedented. Start with diplomacy from twenty ten to twenty sixteen more than three hundred and twenty embassies were opened in Africa. Probably the biggest embassy building boom anywhere ever Turkey alone opened twenty six last year. India announced it would open eighteen military ties deepening to America and France are lending muscle and technology to the struggle against Jihadism in. These Hal China is now the biggest arm seller to sub Saharan Africa and has defense technology ties with forty five countries. Russia has signed nineteen military deals with African state since two thousand fourteen oil rich, Arab states are building bases on the horn of Africa, and hiring African mercenaries commercial ties are being appended as recently as two thousand and six Africa's three biggest trading partners were America, China and France. In that order by twenty eighteen eight was China. I India second and America third. France was seventh over the same period. Africa's trade has more than tripled with Turkey and Indonesia and more than quadrupled with Russia trade with European Union has grown by modest forty-one percent. The biggest sources of foreign direct investment are still firms from America Britain and France about Chinese ones, including state backed outfits are catching up and investors from India and Singapore on eager to join the fray, the stereotype of foreigners in Africa is of Neo colonial exploiters interested only in the continent's natural resources, not its people and ready to bribe local bigwigs in shady deals that do nothing for ordinary Africans. The stereotype is sometimes true far too, many oil and mineral ventures, doughty corrupt African leaders of whom. There is still an abundance can. Always find foreign enablers to launder the loot and contracts with arms from countries that can little transparency such as China and Russia often murky three Russian journalists were murdered last year while investigating a Kremlin linked mercenary outfit. That reportedly protects the president of the war-torn Central African Republic and enables diamond mining. They're understandably many saw a whiff of old fashioned imperialism, however engagement with the outside world has mostly been positive Africans foreigners build ports sell insurance and bring mobile phone technology, Chinese factories anythi Opie and Rwanda. Turkish Airlines flies more than fifty African cities greater openness to trade and investment is one reason why GDP ahead south of this harder east two fifths higher than it was in two thousand sound macroeconomic policies and fuel wars also helped. Africans can benefit when foreigners buy everything from textiles to holidays and digital services. Even so Africans can do more to increase that share of the benefits. I voters and activists can insist on transparency it is heartening that South Africa is investigating the allegedly crooked deal struck under the previous President Jacob Zuma. But alarming that even worse behavior in the Democratic Republic of Congo has gone on probed, and that terms of Chinese loans to some dangerously indebted, African governments are secret to be sure that a public deal is good for ordinary folks as well as big men voters have to know what is in it. Journalists such as the Kenyans who expose scandals over Chinese railway project at a big role to play. Second Africa's leaders need to think more strategically Africa may be nearly as populous China bought it comprises fifty four countries not one. African governments could strike better deals if they're short more unity. No, one expects sadness continent that includes sport, Anna kick, battlezones and prosperous democracies to be as integrated as Europe, but it can shouli do better than letting China. Go see eight with each country individually behind closed doors, the power imbalance between save China and Uganda is huge. It could be reduced somewhat. With a free trade area own African regional blocs clubbed together after all the benefits of infrastructure projects spill across borders. Third African leaders do not have to choose sides as they did during the Cold War. They can do business with western McCreevy's and also with China and Russia and anyone else with something to offer because they have more choice now than ever before. Africans should be able to drive harder bargains and outsiders should. Not see this as zero sum contest as the Trump administration when it pays attention to Africa. Apparently does if China builds a bridge in Ghana an American car can drive over it. If a British farm invests in a mobile data network in Kenya. A Kenyan entrepreneur can use it to set up a cross-border startup lost Africans should take what some of their new friends, tell them with a pinch of salt, China argues that democracy is a western idea development requires a farm hand. This message dot appeals to African strongmen. But it is bunk. A study by Takeo Masaki off the World, Bank and nNcholas van Davar of Cornell University found that African countries grow faster, if they are more democratic the good news is that as -cation improves and Africans move rapidly to the cities, they are growing more critical of their rulers and less frightened to say. So in one thousand nine hundred seven. Seventy percent of African ruling party's one more than sixty percent of the vote. Partly by getting rural chiefs to cow villages into backing them by twenty fifteen only fifty percent it as politics grows more competitive voters clout will grow, and they will be able to insist on a form of globalization that works for Africans and foreigners alike. United States, Texas politics. Twilight in Austin. Humbled Republicans are trying to maintain their longtime grip over the Lone Star state by focusing on bread and butter issues. The key to understanding Texas is the state capital in Austin. It is there that legislators meet only every other year to pass new laws and set the state budget. The elegant domed building is several feet taller than the capital in Washington. And that matters to Texans gun owners with a concealed carry license. Kanada through a separate security lane. And do not have to go through the indignity of a metal detector as Luli journalists. Do the capital is built of pinkish granite, a suitable material for a red state now facing the prospect of diluted Republican influence after years of pushing to the right on social issues and immigration, Texas, Republicans have shifted their tone joining the current legislative session. There's been a rush to the middle explains. Jason Szabo of from Tara. Strategy. A lobbying firm evidence of that lies in the list of priorities presented by Greg Abbott. The recently reelected Republican governor his emergency items, which he wants the legislature to focus on include financing public schools, paying teachers more reforming the property tax regime funding for special education and expanding access to mental health services. How unlike the previous session of the biennial legislature in twenty seventeen back then Republicans passed a hugely controversial immigration Bill giving law enforcement offices, the right to stop people and asked to see papers confirming their citizenship. Some compare this action to proposition one eight seven an anti immigration Bill that passed in California in nineteen Ninety-four and turned Hispanics. In that state against the Republican party, another contentious legislative item that session was a bathroom Bill designed to regulate where transgender people are allowed to pay Mr. Abbott declared it a priority at the time though, ultimately it with after opposition from businesses Republicans have moved over to our issue set. And the things we had been talking about says Manny Garcia, executive director of the Texas Democratic Party culture wars is still playing out in this legislative session, including over abortion. But they are fewer Republicans are not talking about divisive social issues anymore. Says Joe Straus who served as speaker of the Texas house for a decade before stepping down in January Republicans moved to the right to win primaries against other Republicans. But now they face more challenging Jenner. Elections today. There's more fear of the November voter than there is of the primary voter, but there's fear of both says Mr. Strauss there several reasons for the Republicans change of tone and approach but the twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen elections are central to it in twenty sixteen. Hillary Clinton lost Texas by the smallest margin of any democrat since nineteen ninety six in twenty eighteen when Democrats picked up twelve house seats and two state Senate seats, many right-wing Republicans lost what with thought to be safe districts or one by slim margins than expected this had more than a little to do with Beto Rourke who was challenging Republican Ted Cruz for the US Senate, although he lost Mr. rook helped get many down ballot democratic state legislators and judges. His elected. Donald Trump is also cost to shadow overstate Republicans. The worst thing that ever happened to Texas. Republicans was the election of Donald Trump says Mark Jones of Rice University in Houston. Mr. Trump has alienated many white Republican women in Texas and has also pushed away Hispanics who account for around forty percent of the state's population long after Mr. Trump leaves office demographic change in Texas will continue to exert an influence on the fortunes of Republicans as the Hispanic population grows millennials vote in increasing numbers and people continue to move to Texas from other states, bringing them more liberal politics with them, according to a recent poll by the university of Texas and Texas Tribune more Texans say they would soon a vote for a candidate running against Mr. Trump, then re elect the president. Showing voters that they can bring about change on bread and butter issues may help Republicans fend off competition in twenty twenty legislators abroad Lii in agreement that the state needs to do something about property taxes which have risen considerably as Texas's economy has boomed and pushed up property values. Texas does not have a state income tax. So it relies disproportionately on property taxes to fund schools because the property taxes are very transparent Levy voters frequently complain about their high bills. Mr. Abbott has suggested capping the rate by which local governments can raise taxes at two point five percent without a special vote today that threshold is eight percent. This is probably just a starting point for negotiation. But how the state will manage to reduce property tax growth rates while doing more to. Fund, public schools equitably and boost their performance another legisative priority is unclear restricting the ability of local districts to raise revenue when they have. So few other sources available to them could damage the state's educational prospects in the long run. The property tax issue points to a broader theme in Texas politics. The clash between state and local control in theory. Republicans tend to be in favor of light touch regulation and leaving governance and policy making to local authorities. But as cities have turned into democratic bastions and forge their own liberal, visions for the future. Republicans have changed their stance for example, last year, Austin and San Antonio passed ordinances that require employers to offer paid sick leave. But a Bill making its way through the state Senate would hamstring cities ability to set such policies much is at stake. If Republicans lose the state House, Democrats will have a stronger influence on the redistricting process. A democrat controlled house would presumably not agree. With a Republican controlled Senate plan in another twist next year's election will be the first when straight ticket voting that is taking a single box to vote for every candidate from that party on a ballot is eliminated. Thanks to efforts by Republicans in the previous legislative session candidates will have to compete more on their own merits rather than rely on party loyalty this could contribute sometime between twenty twenty and twenty twenty six to the end of the Republicans twenty year dominance of all statewide offices. According to Mr. Jones of Rice, University, Democrats, certainly banking on it this week Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US house of representatives traveled to Dallas and Austin and declared Texas ground zero the democratic efforts in twenty twenty Houston is one of three finalists cities. Applying to host the twenty twenty democratic national convention if selected it would further underscore, the Democrats strategic embrace of the state many awaiting to see whether Mr. aerobic will run for president joining Houlihan Castro, a fellow Texan and former mayor of San Antonio to compete for the democratic nomination south by south west a popular convention in Austin, beginning on March eighth is set to draw other democratic nominees including Elizabeth Warren and Amy klobuchar who are hoping to drum up support those visiting Austin will find it nearly impossible to ignore that prodigious dome with its faint glow of pink. Europe. Russia. Putin tries to build an internet as Russian TV viewers shift online. The state tries to maintain control. When the Soviet people turned on their television sets on August nineteenth nineteen Ninety-one. They knew there was an emergency. Every channel was playing classical music or showing SWAN LAKE on a loop a few hours earlier Mikhail Gorbachev had been detained during an attempted coup as the Soviet Union, crumbled, the fisa street battles unfolded over television towers to take the Kremlin. You must take television said one of Mr. Gorbachev's aids, but -demia Putin took note he began his rule in two thousand by establishing a monopoly over television. The country's main source of news. It has helped him create an illusion of stability and whip up and Fuzan for his foreign wars. But the Kremlin's most reliable propaganda tool is losing its power. Russian pundits have long described polity. Ix as a battle between the television. And the refrigerator that is between propaganda and economics. Now the internet is weighing in. According to the lavar dissenter an independent poster Russians trust in television has fallen by thirty percentage points since two thousand nine to below fifty percent. The number of people who trust internet based information sources has tripled to Nelia quarter of the population. Older people still get most of their news from television. But most of those aged eighteen to twenty four rely on the internet, which remains relatively free. Youtube in particular is eroding the state television monopoly. It is now viewed by eighty two percent of the Russian population aged eighteen to forty four channel one. Russia's main television channel reaches eighty three percent of the same age. Group bloggers have overtaken some television anchors Yuri dud, a YouTube journalist who interviews politicians and celebrities such as Alexei navalny. The opposition leader gets ten million to twenty million views per video much more than any television news program, even Dmitri Castilian have the state television. Propagandist in chief felt compelled to appear on Mr. dude show news is the fourth most popular YouTube category among Russians after do it yourself music and drama, Mr. Novell ni who has become a dominant political. Voice on the internet has two YouTube channels one of which has Dany news programs in the past year. His audience has doubled. He has two point five million subscribers and four point five million unique view as a month is weekly YouTube webcast is watched live by nearly one million people by comparison channel one's main evening news show is watched by three million to four million people. The Kremlin is desperately looking for ways to control the internet. The government is trying to work out. How to turn the internet into a television says, Gregory a small of an expert on the Russian internet King's College London. This he argues would require not only strict regulation, but control over physical infrastructure and dominance in providing content last month, the Duma preliminarily approved a law on digital sovereignty which tries to separate Russia's internet from the global one it wants to criminalize anti-government messages online in effect, reviving laws on anti-soviet propaganda, yet controlling the internet will take more than a few laws. Unlike in China where the ruling party built it's great firewall by the early two thousands in Russia. The internet was a freeze own both. In terms of content and infrastructure with hundreds of private service providers in the early two thousands. It became an alternative to state dominated television. The Kremlin did not spot the threat. Indeed, Mr Putin argued against regulating the internet by the end of the two thousand however, online activity spilled into the real world during a rash of wildfires. In twenty ten thousands of volunteers used crowdsourcing sites to respond to the crisis. This to asthma fog us that this self mobilization instilled a sense of agency in ordinary citizens while exposing the government's shortcomings a year later when the Kremlin tried to rig parliamentary elections sites such as goalless ovoid activated. Thousands of volunteer election monitors who. Who recorded widespread violations in the wake of street protests. Mr Putin unleashed repression both online and offline including denial of service attacks on websites new regulations and prosecution of activists in two thousand fourteen he declared the internet a CIA project and demanded that national internet firms move their servers to Russia. The Kremlin launched groups of cyber guards to search for prohibited. Content and tried to hollow out the volunteer movement by replicating, independent crowd sourcing sites with its own it even quipped polling stations with webcams not to increase transparency says Mr. Asmolov, but to create a semblance of it. It also deployed an army of trolls to flood social media with derisive and inflammatory messages. The government pressed Pavel doer of the co founder of v contact you a home grown social network to divulge user information to the FSP the state security service when he refused. It made him sell the firm to Alicia was of a loyal oligarchy who owns mail dot. Are you a big Russian internet business? He contact you remains Russia's top social network, partly because it offers pornography and pirated content last year. Mr. Osmonov signed a two billion dollar joint venture with Alibaba a Chinese ecommerce giant, unlike Mr. Dur of Mr. Manaf had no qualms about giving uses data to the security services, which has led to a series of arrests. According to Gora, a human rights watchdog Russian prosecutor's have initiated one thousand two. Two hundred ninety five criminal proceedings for online offenses and handed out one hundred and forty three sentences since twenty fifteen the vast majority originated from the contact your pages. This heavy handed approach has alienated young internet uses more recently. The government has changed tactics. Instead of persecuting uses it is establishing greater control over internet providers. New legislation on digital sovereignty will oblige them to install surveillance equipment that can be operated from a single control center. This will allow the state to filter into net. Traffic isolate regions or even cut off the worldwide web throughout the country in case of emergency. The government showed it can cooled off individual regions from the internet during recent protests in Ingushetia, but replicating China's great firewall may be difficult says Andrey sold it off the author of the red web and an expert on Russian internet surveillance rush. Is more integrated into the internet's global architecture. Its biggest firms like Yan decks have servers abroad while global giants such as Google have servers in Russia. Most importantly Russians have grown use to sites like YouTube, which is a big provider of children's entertainment. Banning established platforms like YouTube or Google may be technically possible, but could be politically explosive last year. The state regulator tried to block telegram a messaging service developed by Mr. Dora f- for refusing the Russian security services access to encrypted messages. This inadvertently crashed lots of services, including hotel and airline booking systems, which like telegram relied on Amazon and Google servers. It also sparked some of the largest street protests in year's telegramme is fighting the effort to block it and for now, it seems to be winning not least because many government officials use it. But Mr. sold it off argues that the exercise served to intimidate big platforms into cooperating it showed firms such as. Google and Facebook that people in the Kremlin are mad enough to bring down the entire internet. If necessary he says. Last year, the Russian regulator, find Google five hundred thousand rubles that seven thousand six hundred dollars for failing to remove banned websites from search results the number of requests from the Russian government to remove or block content as exploded in the past two years the repressive digital sovereignty. Lou already endorsed by Janda and mail dot argue two of Russia's largest firms aims to increase the Kremlin's power to cajole and the tactic of persuasion is partially working. Google's latest transparency report shows that it satisfied seventy eight percent of Russian government. Take down requests in the first half of twenty eighteen Mr. Novell, knee, complains that YouTube wrongly removed a paid advert assessment for his protest rally last September at the requ. West of the electoral commission and says it turned a blind eye to the Kremlin's use of boughts to drive down his videos ratings and stop them from trending. Applying the new law fully, however might be like smashing a computer screen with a hammer. The Kremlin will have a switch to bring down the internet. If a political crisis erupts, but few ways to prevent it from erupting pulling the plug to block. The protesters message from spreading would be the most powerful message of all in nineteen Ninety-one almost no one had internet access that everyone knew the country was in turmoil. When they turned on the television and sore nothing, but SWAN LAKE. 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The Tim McKernan Show: Pick 6 - Ep 1

The Tim McKernan Show

27:10 min | 3 d ago

The Tim McKernan Show: Pick 6 - Ep 1

"Joe. What. fuckers Joe Recording Right I. Think we should be recording right out of the gate with this because the best material. Were is the opening. All, right well, welcome back G unit producer. Joe, we have been picked up for a third season by inside STL enterprises. They just forgot that the football season started and so pick six begins in week three. It's funny. It's funny that you say forgot the pick back up I was playing golf with a gentleman last week and asked, Hey, are you guys not doing pick six this year? And I was like Oh shit I forgot all about forgot about two. Yeah. The world's upside down. Yes. So I'm not really Yeah I don't view is the similar football season as we have in the past g unit had you've forgotten about it? You probably didn't 'cause you're probably betton like crazy. I. I. I. Hear G Unit Oh, now now now. You're on. Can you hear me extra pitas on the ones and twos? Yeah. I'm definitely betting. It's good to be called back gopher third season I. Guess I had forgotten about it wasn't the. Most amazing thing is no one including the people who are talking right now on the show gangster pete on the ones and twos jamming a producer Joe or myself no one in the audience for. Here. Contacted me about it and so I'm just like I'm going about my life. I'm not thinking about I didn't even know Joe I was in the pro shop about to play. And I'm like fuck, Notre Dame's. Playing Duke can't even ordering was playing this year. I think only one college football game all year. And that was that first weekend in Kansas loss to some directional school something or other coastal. Da School. I was on Alan you're hundred. Plan on plenty. I guess that's A heater yeah. We we've been talking about some of the pixies have been making and boy is he really laser done right now i. am going to this year I'll make my own picks. Nice. gangster pita said the feedback it's amazing. You guys get feedback I. Don't the audience does not contact even the my email address is the one that's out there for contact me but people talk around me they don't talk to me. It's a very odd the gangster Pete says the people have requested that I make my own picks not just read the weatherman stuff that's right plus I mean the ran was great in two, thousand, eighteen, nineteen. It he's he he had regression so to speak their regression and we tend to expect lost a little. The mean was significantly lower than you believe the I've I just hope for his sake that he was just making picks and emailing them to us not actually betting on it because if so it was it was a tough winter. Sick He plays bookie for somebody who who gives him picks and then pizza's place them just taste it. Hopefully the weather man's got a guy. Gotten, rich off Letterman. So appeal wants to participate this year as well. Since pizza on a heater, maybe maybe somebody can emerge I'll all I really advocate for is the sweetheart teaser G Unit you you've gained a following for what androgynous enemy fighters when we don't really know male or female. Read some me hurts picks and then Joe picks over on like man. Manchester. United. And that's pretty much what the podcast is in addition to discussing Iggy who I wanted to bring on this year but. You need somebody else who does nothing? Nobody you say somebody else who that insinuates that there's already somebody in the first place who's not doing anything. Oh, I guess on this show everybody does actually do something he would not be able to fit in all that well because you know we expect you to contribute in the way that would be deemed responsible for an employee but you know I liked it. He takes I think his sports takes he hasn't really watched sports. That's why. They're generally pretty entertaining like the Hawk has passionate takes. Sometimes, I'd have to go. God Doug I can tell Doug's looking at instagram or texting came lovie. This is how this is how I will host the show. Got To. Dog. Spends time instagram. Really. Yeah well, I mean. That's just because he's on instagram mean browsers. Taking there I think. You know like, no, he tunes out like when I'm reading an email that clearly has like teetering on the brink of getting the station's license pulled and Doug hasn't stopped it. He's he's texting or looking at something or reading an article somewhere. Like there's post on infowars up. That's the. So. So that's what's going on over there. And so the Plow Hawk would give sports at in some time he gets fired up and a lot of the audiences love that shit you know and so I'd be like shit nobody else is paying attention and so I gotta be the one to correct them and I don't want. Him But he said some things that are factually inaccurate. But Hey, at least he gets fired up you know Doug in the catenary just Kinda like, yeah. You Know Tyler O.`Neil out there Dexter Fowler Harris Invader can't get worked up about it because it's just kind of awful so. IGGY doesn't really wash sports. He said he's watched two innings of the cardinals this year he will cheer against Missouri but my guess is all of us here on the dais in producer. Joe. On the phone lines. will be cheering against Missouri on Saturday night because. I guess you're right. There is one who may not but who also see it as a potential in honor of Joe Straus Hash. Tag. Free. Money. Situation So here's what we're going to do. Six picks six picks per person We are recording this at eleven twenty two, I have a lunch I have to get to. It's only a couple minutes from here so I but about twenty minutes so I told you unit. Who Likes to drone on about the reasoning? Why the Carolina Panthers the Second Coming of the seventy two dolphins that we gotta keep the reasoning rather brief Now Have Pete we have four people picking. So it gives us a chance that one of us can get on a heater and G unit one last year and finished fifty three percent against the spread was that the deal that's right. That's right gradually. What are we playing for this year amongst us? Joe, I think maybe you should pick since. We've since one. Well. He's wanting to know how much I'm willing to donate. I as far away as possible but sir last year you and I played for five hundred a piece, right? I know it was a couple of hundred I think Why don't just go to fifty a piece pots thousand and That's that's fine. I'm down. I'm down saving now. I mean we play for? Sort of two thousand dollars in the pot. and. Are we going just total wins and losses this year are we getting into the money line bullshit again with the anti? Money. Line Bullshit. Yes. Just two wins and losses I just wanted itself has can be. hosted. Put a limit on the minus one twenty that's what we did. Here's minus one twenty was his. Favorite is you can go nice. All right. I think we you know what unit I think we have a show. This is why inside Board renewed us and then they said. We WanNa, renew you guys. But kinda like when when Danny Cooksey showed up on different strokes or Oliver showed up on the Brady Bunch. They said we need somebody to kind of spice it up and that's what gangster Pitas this year I'm these right. To Bone. May He rest in peace? All right. Well, we drew straws in the Green Room and our new picker this year our our engineer producer gangster Pete will make the first pick says we broadcast from the home loan expert Dot Com Studios Ryan Kelly Joe was climbing four mountains and four days about that I heard that I think you were talking to him last week that it's it's quite remarkable as we are talking here on Thursday the, what is it? The twenty fourth he is embarking on mountain number one he's actually You can follow it on climb for the kids. Dot Com is our studio sponsor here on the Tim mckernan, Show Ryan Kelly, and refinance with them. If you haven't my goodness, you can save you some money, the home loan expert dot com, or if you want to buy a home, the home loan expert, Dot Com, Ladies and gentlemen his first year picking his third year as a part of the program. It's gangster Pete. Gangster Pete the floor is yours. What's good fam-. Dislike to start off by saying. This just tries to agonize the audience. Amazing thing get. Just like stop saying I'm nothing special. Just a guy don't bet a lot of money on picks. So I'm going to start out with the SEC. Pics then hold the Antioch. I pick is the Kentucky wildcats plus seven and a half. They got their whole offensive line back. They've got three stud running backs back Auburn lost four defenders, the NFL control, the line, and they're going to stay with the Auburn Tigers I, Pick Kentucky plus seven and a half. Next pick. Stand in the SEC Florida fourteen against Ole miss all I gotta tell you Pete Icu to thirteen and a half and I know I'm doing favor here. But I see for thirteen and a half. All right I'm on the right side. I think you just gotTa half point I don't like to drivers especially now that you're actually money's in here. It's kind of Nice. Yeah. Well I mean, I'm a gentleman in that. Almost last in the SEC and pass. The got a whole new coach offense system Florida is tough on both sides of the ball I. Don't think would be ready for him the first week season so Florida minus thirteen and a half and. Then we're going to go to the NFL and I have a super chalky pick. I know that the unit is on the other side of this one. I'm going with the pack plus three and a half at New Orleans. Just the. Pack is looked awesome Aaron Rodgers isn't worried about ladies anymore worried about playing football is nice. Take go pack go sports talk radio taker that relationship off by the way. I don't recall. I don't know who who's the better because you say plus three and a half because I'm only. Delivery Amman I was. Danika Patrick Libya Month I think MON MON MON was better than him, but he's probably better than Patrick. I. Enjoy occasionally Sapphire play. That's what I was under the impression which to me increases stock Yep Joe you're right it's plus three now. It feels very good when you would correct me last year. All nope. Let's plus three the pack the path and going back and forth. That's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. We're moving lines again. Yeah. I checked that line like a half an hour ago. Well, that sucks but okay. Hon feels. Nets Fun. Right here on the PODCAST. Next I have the ravens minus four against Kansas City I think the ravens will be much more motivated in this game since they lost a tough one to Kansas City and they didn't get it done in the playoffs last year so I like the way they're playing right now I think he's GonNa play a lot better than they did last week but I, like the Ravens to win at home versus the chiefs. That is not a chalky pick. Next I have the steelers Mars four against Houston. Houston's been terrible on offense that hop I think they've only been. Called that Inside the ten yard line like three times all year. steelers are tough on defense big Ben at home is tough. So I'm taking the steelers Myers Four. And that are my those are my five picks got Florida minus fourteen Kentucky plus seven and a half packers plus three steelers minus four actually much thirteen half third G unit You are the defending champion. And is now your time to shine we're going to hear a lot NFL's my guess. You know a lot of a lot of disagreement here with with old gangster I'll start with Minnesota Vikings plus two and a half versus the titans I really loved plus two and a half line generally in the. NFL especially for a home dog and the reason is because I think the public loves loves that that Hook on minus two and a half, and they take the favorite because they got the field goal. In this case, I can't see Minnesota going Oh, into Mike Zimmer historically maybe three, three, Owen three historically he he's the second best covering coach in the NFL behind ballot check obviously but. I just can't see it in underdogs at home and titans coming off a bit of a lucky one. I think I think Minnesota does it plus two and a half I might even by the half just to be safe but I think Minnesota beat them by two touchdowns next game. Kansas City plus four at Baltimore completely disagree with with gangster on that I can't see mahomes losing more than field goal and speak in a field goals. How `bout that fucking kicker for Kansas City I mean if this game were to come down to it, it's in the bag. I would take Kansas City money line because I think the win but they're not gonNA lose by by more than a field goal I'll take him plus four. Next game also against gangster, Pete. This saints minus three when I saw this morning was minus three and a half which I didn't like as much because I think it may be close but seventy four percent of the public is on the packers and I just think the packers are overrated They haven't really. Played any crazy opposition yet and their main wide receiver devante Adams who I actually met on to win the league MVP took a floater at the beginning of the year. For a couple of Bucks Down at plus ten thousand, he's questionable with a hamstring injury. So I gotta go saints at home especially coming off that tough loss in Vegas I look for them to win the game by more than field goal next one Houston Pittsburgh over forty five. Not, the exact opposite of Pete. My reasoning is kind of the opposite for his Pittsburgh that I like to Shawn Watson to wake up we gotta remember here that we had no preseason games. So when you lose a weapon like the Andre Hopkins, it's going to take a few games to get to get the offense grinding like should be diop the what is called Yeah D. and D. Hop obviously averaging more than one hundred with Arizona I mean he's he's he was the biggest weapon I would say in the NFL last year and and I think he is again this year so they lost him but the Shawn Watson, a winner. And they've only put up a few points in these in these first few games. So I think they're going to break out and same with Pittsburgh there plane way down they've played to shitty offenses. So they've just Kinda grinded out winds putting up you know in the twenty s against Denver and They're both gonNA break out This game's going to be high scoring and last one Dallas Seattle fifty-six under? Pretty much for the same reasoning but the opposite I think everyone has these last few games in their head with regard to the high scoring game. Well, what do they both have in common? Their high scoring. No, they both played the fucking falcons. Oh. That's another one of my points. Yeah they played the Falcons would just legendarily bad defense I think I in coaching don't leave that out you made their coach may not last the season but that defense I think we could really be in line to see something special from the Falcons this year setting I mean records for for how bad they're going to be. So yeah, you're absolutely right Joe you nailed it. They both have the Falcons in common and I think the GONNA probably be bad up to fifty eight or fifty, nine by kickoff. So you may WanNa wait wait on it but fifty-six under right now is my fifteen. G unit is in the books producer. Joe. All right. Well, I, only got one college football game all year but I nine, six and one in the first two weeks of EPL. That's a fifty six and a quarter percent is that Auburn. What that at soccer? Yeah. That soccer that includes one Bundesliga game Geyer Munich last. Bundesliga second. Just the first of I was playing with some guys talking Bundesliga yesterday. Cosmic. CANTINA. You plane. Playing I was flying pickle ball on Francis Park. Okay. Do you guys have over there too all right. got to I think they're gonNA add two more. You know Joe this might be a game should pick up is is it is fun I had a lunch in ten minutes I'll get to the all you'll be. All right. Then I'll rush through this and I I'm I need to go Bama minus twenty seven and a half I feel like four or four touchdowns as plenty I. Don't know much how much higher they'll go that. But I think they're going to absolutely destroy Missouri F-, next football game I'll lay three and a half with Tennessee at South Carolina South Carolina might be as bad as Missouri as this year. and then I will take Syracuse plus eight against Georgia Tech as my three college games. I'm going to go over two point, seven, five goals with spurs new castle. That's minus one ten. So that's in play. I'm going to go over two and a half of Crystal Palace. Everton. My Five Games Alabama minus twenty seven and a half. Tennessee minus three and a half Syracuse plus eight over of Spurs Newcastle two point seven five in over of palace and Everton at two and a half are those games on Saturday the two point seven five. Well, it's Asian. Handicapping Asian American plays well, no, it's really called Asian. Handicap. Not being insensitive. Week. After one episode in season three. Racist Diatribe out. Handicapping Holy Crap People Ryan. Employees. Into that today. So if you bet one hundred dollars on it, you've got a bed at two and a half and you've got to bed at three. So it's fifty dollars a piece. So if you go over the two point, seven five and ends up being say three nothing you win fifty bucks and your other bud is a push is how it works out and how did we figure we're and calculate that as a half a win I that's entirely up to you guys how you want to handle it. Well, if we're going to have the We got to have some rule with it I know that because that. By the way Spurs in Newcastle is on Sunday Everton in Crystal Palace's on Saturday just accordingly for those of you wavering on it, I'll let you guys figure it out. But in the meantime, it's great to be back to be making picks and not just reading the weather man's picks. These are my picks Louisiana Tech minus twenty three and a half against Houston Baptist didn't know they had a program I feel like they won't be able to cover twenty three and a half there's. Trouble with them Tim. Baptists. A little bit I know you got another another juggernaut on her hands well, I'll be. Fine. I see that there's a Max of two hundred dollars on on the site for this one so I feel. The reason for it I'll take smu minus thirty four and a half against Stephen F. Austin Joe's GonNa. Tell me though that they have a bunch of five star recruits apparently you even have Austin I I don't know anything about Stephen F. A. estimates. Tournament every year. That's correct won't impact football however. So on s M You I actually I'm going to make NFL and they're going to be probably the square EST picks but I'm still going to do it. I mean, it's a square festival. Probably be shaking your head since you're the the Jimmy the Greek of course if. Not. Necessarily of history of of America but right but I'll go with Las Vegas, the fighting raiders plus six and a half against the Patriots do you like that? I feel like it squarely I like it and I don't think it square really. Yeah. I feel like it's so scary. But okay I'm taking the raiders I'm taking the bills minus two and a half against the rams. Squaring I like that and I think that is the exact opposite of square. On the rooms I'm I'm in my own head right now the public's on the ram early. I mean the pills are legit. We people are no good. Okay I do want to know if the rams are though I, think that they could be legit but I don't know the rams look a lot better than last year their offensive line's push. They're able to do more stuff with their offense and I will go with the eagles minus four and a half at home against the Bengals for my five pick. So I actually went with three NFL, which is just not my style but I looked at. You know got raiders plus six and a half bills minus two and a half an eagles minus four and a half, and then because I see the bets capped two hundred dollars I went against Houston Baptist apparently a mistake. with Louisiana Tech and against Stephen F. Austin with smu. 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The exact same thing he's located in webster groves his numbers three, one, four, nine, six, hundred, forty, eight, hundred or you can go online at Carlton Insurance Dot Net and they have this going on right now he has exciting news to share for the Saint Louis Area State Farm. has filed a rate decrease with the state of Missouri James Confident that state farm with the best pricing the he's seen in twelve years, and perhaps in their history mean there's never been a time for our listeners to take a look if they're not currently with state farm and the good news is interest for those looking to change their coverage current customers will be seeing big reductions in their renewals as well. James Carlton Three One, four, nine, six, one, forty, eight, hundred, gangster Pete it's time for your lock of the week. Just secured tickets to this game so I'll be in the house at Bama at Mizzou. and. My lock of the week is Bam is twenty seven and a half. I think that by halftime or be able to get out of there and get to, which is in time to get a burger zoo have named starting quarterback. They got cova problems the covered bear when drink got there I think next year they start to turn it around this year is not Bama Rolls, Royce half. She I got the same pick. And I don't think I. Need to add anything I. Think it's GonNa be bloodbath. I hope he has. Preacher Jim. Chester united what were they going tim? bluster. Teams in the League. I'm going. Over two and a half man. Right being walk. Brighton and Hove Albion that is a six thirty. Over on Manchester United over two and a half I gotta do it. I do WANNA do well unlocks of the week I take him seriously and I just have no idea how Missouri, stays with the towns of Alabama. So it's we're doing the same at least joe varied it although we already I didn't even know Manchester United was playing and Manchester just united over. So there's no surprises in our lives. We're all taking Alabama minus twenty seven and a half I bought tell you something if Missouri covers a lot of people in this area who are GonNa Oh, they're man money. Matthew I already, double mats can I ask you what that means I mean nobody knows who you are anyway outside of the few of us. So it doesn't matter I really WanNa know what that means. I wonder what you're betting because I I get pissed if I lose a hundred bucks I, really do a couple hundred bucks. Okay. All right I think it's more than that. It's disappointing that you're lying to me when no one who was actually talking to gangster before this and I said maybe I should make this my biggest bet ever outside of being in Las Vegas you know just fire through i. mean just because I think you should be able to buy something Nice after after this game your reward. Yeah. I just think it's going to be a probably a fifty point game I kind of Alabama score like in the forty nine rain I just don't know how Missouri is GonNa put up anything that would be know close to that. So it it does strike me as the same kind of deal Nick Bolton Verse Bama Me and it's just a I mean I don't know I'm I'm confused by the line unless there's something weird. But yes, I'm with you guys on it. Hey Jim Rogers of restoration one central Saint Louis saved me when our basement flooded man is he good people I'd like to recommend him to our audience restoration of central Saint Louis is the name of the company restoration one of central. Saint. Louis DOT COM, the website, the number one restoration one central Saint Louis Jim Rogers is his name and his phone number. If you're not having any home damage right now save it three, one, four, eight, five to six six or go online restoration the number one of. 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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 139 - QFTA Media Bias v. Profit

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 139 - QFTA Media Bias v. Profit

"Yes. Yes. Welcome. In to another dish of the Tim occurred show on the inside S T L podcast network. It's questions from the audience day. Always enjoyed talking it over with the audience just kind of BS ING or mind expanding. I'm expanding my mind, I might be destroying yours. But I like the questions and this week, I'm even more enthused. I always look forward to doing this episode. I like to pick six especially that now that we're actually winning MMA thirty and twenty two on pick six fifty eight percent. The spreader fifty seven point something we wound up to fifty eight percent. So I enjoy doing that. And in the interviews are are always great. But this is where I'm just kind of sitting here and being so I look forward to it. So I'm enjoying it. And and we got some good questions this week so questions from the audience the potus, but I want to let the audience know about a couple of things that we have going on, Dan McLaughlin. I guess it's. Three things. And and that is the following first off we are doing a Saint Louis sports QNA's presented by bud. Select it is Monday November twelfth and it is that the improv shop. It's Dan McLaughlin. I taking your questions we might be in the process, and I kinda deep tease it here. So follow me on Twitter at team occurred in and on the TMA fan page, and the Tim occurred and show Facebook page, we might be having a very special guest to add to the evening, and we would announce that in advance it wouldn't be like a surprise thing. But either way I would tell you this. The tickets are fifty dollars portions of the proceeds are going to three little birds for life charity that I've been working with about five years now and that ticket gets you all you can eat Nana mama's pizza online at an A N A M A M A S dot com. Not a momma's pizza starting at five thirty drink specials at the improv shop, which is located just east of the grove, and then Dan McLaughlin, and I and possibly special guest or two. We'll be taking the stage at six thirty taking your questions. So I would really cause I kind of have an idea, but it's not one hundred percents. I don't wanna say it of who the special guest is going to be. It would be worth it to get your tickets now. Because once we announced the special guest, I have a feeling the tickets will be gone. It's not like this is a five hundred person theater. So it's the improv. Shop Monday, November twelfth the tickets are available on event bright type in Dan McLaughlin. Mckernan they'll pop up. You can see the links that Dan, and I have tweeted out as well fifty dollars a person. Plus, it gets all your food and drink specials. So that's presented by bud. Select then this is presented by Bud Light, Dan, McLaughlin, and I are doing hockey nights. And this will be the first one is at the enterprise centre for the blues and predators the night after thanksgiving Friday, November twenty third and this is also with portions the proceeds this one's going to the charity that Dan has been working with almost. For twenty years, which is amazing because he's still a young, man. But that just shows that he was working with charities even in his twenties, and that is the special education foundation. And so what it is to three hundred dollar ticket you go three hundred dollars what in the world. Well, it's not just a ticket. It's a suite with me and Dan McLaughlin. Also, I guess I should say possibly special guests on that as well. It's November twenty third the sweet opens up at the ninety minute Mark before face off and all of your beverages, all of your food gourmet food. Also, all of your drinks. It's they're all included. It's all there in that goes all throughout the game. So it's an old-fashioned pony show. So you're in a suite you're with me, and Dan, McLaughlin, and an all your, food and drinks included. And it's all, you know, the bartender our own private bartender. And all your food going the whole time ninety minutes before the game. That's a that's a nice situation there. So we're really looking forward to doing this presented by Butler. But but light and again, Dan, Dan, and I have been tweeting it out on the TMA fan page as well. It's on Twitter, and again that is on event bright, and you can get there by typing in our names annual see it, and there are limited monetary it's on this. So if you do wanna go make sure you get your tickets on this because it's not like we have three hundred seats for this one. So that's coming up as well. And then finally, well, we're going to do a spring training trip as well. But we're not we're not releasing that yet. But also, Dan, and I are going to do a show on Facebook live and on Twitter the hot stove show. And it's presented by mattress direct. And once a week, November, December January we'll be doing a hot stove show where we take audiences questions and. We're on Facebook live and on Twitter. So you can watch it anytime you want and then we'll put it up on respective respective podcasts. He has scoops with the anti MAC. You're listening to mine. And and you can listen to it whenever you want. But you can watch it as well. It's presented by mattress direct. And we know the interest in the cardinals right now is so high Dan, and I certainly have our perspective. So we're looking forward to that as well. So it's all coming your way, all these events all of these shows and probably more. But that's what we are here to let you know about today. So there it all is if you want to go to these events event Brighton and the show will start next week on Facebook and on Twitter. So there at all is okay. It has been covered officially now. Okay. So questions what questions you have? 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Ryan Kelly and his outstanding staff at the home loan expert dot com for all your refinancing needs and your home purchasing needs. It's Ryan Kelly online at the home loan expert dot com, the studio sponsors here. We'll start with this one Tim. I greatly enjoyed your discussion of media bias in last week's Q FTA. I'm curious your thoughts on a couple of questions. I find myself debating regarding the media number one. What do you think the primary mission of media companies should be to report accurately or as a business to turn the highest profit possible can accompany do? Both or are these goals exclusive from one another I that's from Brad. And then I see as a few more here. But I'll start with that. Because I want to make sure I attempt to answer the questions number one. I'm if there was one thing that I really wanted to get into when it was when we decided to do the podcast, you know, more than a year ago. Now, I feel like one of the most important issues facing the United States in twenty eighteen media. I also am aware that coverage of the media is something that kind of to my surprise. But I'm aware of it. And it's a fact is something that fascinates people. And so I guess it's a good business model to discuss it. But that's not why I would be discussed from talking about it because I think it is so important to point it out, and maybe that's a direction I should go. Maybe I should add a podcast. The to the rotation. Just just pointing things out that I see is being very obvious. And and it's it's not like, this is exclusive to take your pick of whatever outlet. You don't like this is this is it's it's from doll, very transparent and plenty of I'm sure there are plenty of other things that I'm missing that. Some of you might go. Will you miss this one? I also think sometimes people think there are biases that don't exist, and since it's a topic that they're I believe there's interest in. But I also think it's an important one to point out the manipulation that is going on and often such a subtle manner. I suppose I in my opinion, it would actually have, you know, some some impact for the greater good as opposed to for example, pick six which historically up until about two weeks ago was costing people money by listening to. So that's something that I that legitimately. If you said, what is the topic you'd like to focus in on the podcast that would be it. It wouldn't be like, you know. I mean, listen, I'm intrigued. By the cardinal offseason. Take your pick of whatever sports topic any topic. Really if it stimulates I'm in. But this is the one that really gets me going the most to the point that I actually stopped following media outlets on social media because I I saw what was going on. And it tilted me. So even though I was quote unquote, getting information I would see what they were doing, and it would irritate me so just for happiness purposes, and it stopped following them. So with that all set the question, which is a great question. Brad. What do you think the primary mission of media companies should be to report accurately or as a business to turn the highest profit possible can accompany do both or are these goals exclusive from one another so in a utopian world and utopian world. He would be lovely if you could maximize profit and quote, do the right thing I'm doing a lot of quotes today. But. Realistically. I don't think that that is what's going on. I would imagine that is an applause line that I know I will get applause on because everybody would agree with that. Because liberals going. Yeah, exactly take your shots at Fox News and conservative going good. Yeah. Take your shots at MSG NBC, and and CNN, and that's not what I'm doing. I'm just simply making the observation that that, you know, I think people see a business model, and they are executing upon it and that business model is to maximize viewership. And so from that standpoint, in my opinion, I've noticed what's gone on here over the last. I don't know. But I'll put it to you this way. I'm of the opinion that CNN saw Fox News is success with making Barack Obama the topic from two thousand nine through January two thousand seventeen and said we're going to do the same thing with Donald Trump. And I don't. Think that was what was going on before on CNN? Now, you might disagree, and that's fine. And then you can send in whatever. And we'll, you know, most likely agree to disagree. But maybe would provide some examples, and I would okay fine. But that's my that's my opinion. And then I saw therefore I feel like it's become a business model. And so at this point now, whereas I used to look forward to watching news coverage, I have more or less tuned out. I suppose I feel like they're anchors or reporters who are not playing the game. But for the most part, I've tuned out because for the same reasons it's frustrating to me. Now what it should be? Well, I mean, it's a company, and so ideally, it's it's doing good and doing the right thing all while making money. The issue is I think these companies have found by catering to the bubble whichever bubble it might be conservative or liberal. And then simply presenting stories that either reaffirm alread already preconceived politics notions. Or presenting stories of the day in a way that skews positively for the people that the audience likes or negatively for the stories that the audience doesn't like then that's that's what's being done. And the loser. And the whole thing is the American public. And I just don't know. I I don't I don't know. I don't like when people say all politicians of the same. And when I say, that's a lazy statement. I know that can come off the wrong way because I'm sure a number of people who have said that are listening, and it's not intended to be shot per se is I just don't I just don't agree with that. You know, if you wanna take somebody who is on the right, Jack Danforth, I would say certainly would not fall into that category from my standpoint. And if he wanted to take somebody on the left, I would say Barack Obama doesn't fall into that category. And I realize I say Barack Obama, and I immediately like upset a bunch of people. But you know, that's my perspective as far I'm John McCain. You know, I get when I'm looking for. I'm talking about looking for the greater good. I'm not necessarily talking about policies. And that's why I don't think they're all like, and I think just casting aspersions on everyone is a disservice. So with. That all out there. It would be ideal. If people simply do report, but that is not what is going on. And. Maybe I should maybe I should just like you. Here's here's five things. Like at the end of questions from the audience five things that I noticed on this accounts tweets, her Instagram posts and discuss this is what I think they're doing here because I it's so it's like my God. I'd have like ten a day just pick the top five because it's so constant the next question was I I would argue that right now the median our country's not a trusted institution cannot be fixed. If so how I am of the belief that the media's responsibility is the unofficial fourth branch of government is vital to a healthy functioning democracy, but between enemies, the people from those on the right to those on the left criticizing President Trump at every turn fairly or unfairly it's incredibly unhealthy environment with no improvement side. I'm curious your thoughts cover improve. I honestly don't know if I can give you a positive uplifting answer on that. I let me put it this way. I don't think I think it's something with time. And I don't know what's going to happen. That is going into that turning. Because there's so much money in doing it the manipulative way. And so therefore doing it down the middle and simply reporting is not profitable as profitable. And then Furthermore, even if you are doing that, you're still if somebody doesn't like the story, they're going to fake news or dull, that's typical left-wing right wing media. And so I don't see I don't see a reason for thinking that all the sudden it's it's going to turn around. So I hate to say that. But that's how I honestly feel. So that's why I think it's such an issue. The only thing I can do is is give you my honest assessment. On next statement is on a non question note. I enjoy the podcast, you're episodes. Public officials are fascinating. I don't understand. Why more don't want to do long-form interviews where they can thoroughly explain their positions on issues as opposed to the short snippets. We are. Usually stuck with Q F T A is always thought provoking and pick six always entertaining. Even if the pixel don't go as well as you guys hope, thanks for reading on Email be well, that's from Brad. I have to tell you. I got I got to set the record straight on the picks. Listen, I don't know what I'm doing. But I am thirty and twenty two against the spread and producer. Joe's five hundred now g unit struggling, but you know, thirty and twenty two against the spreads pretty damn good and five hundred's, not bad either. So Brad, I need I need to correct you on that one. But the rest of the Email, I'm on board with all right next up here. Let's take one from the questions from the audience on the fan page and a bunch of come in. I just posted it right before going into the homeowner expert dot com studios. Joe Straus once asked who is a leader in the Saint Louis area, the panel couldn't name one. I believe Jay Randolph junior said buzz Westfall was the last energetic charismatic leader. Is this part of the problem in Saint Louis that there has become a vacuum of leadership? How do you fix? Something like that. It's great question. And it's something that I continue anytime the topic of Saint Louis comes up the state of Saint Louis, and then my answers, I don't know. But just because my answer is I don't know that doesn't mean that the answer is. No. So I wanna make sure I I that I don't know. And you know, that to me is is is one of the core issues. I know this my dad talks about how you know back in the day so to speak Bob Hyland being one of the people. But that there were is he would call them movers and shakers in Saint Louis who would make sure that Saint Louis was taken care of. And that just does not exist anymore. So I also think what? Yeah. I can I can't name the person. But there's a person, I know. No who I think very highly of. And and I'm quite certain also that it's not like our politics are in line. Then that's what I go back to its somebody acting in what they think is the greater good. Even if our politics are different. That's that's who I want an office because there are tells that I see where I go. Oh, this guy. Oh, I see what he's doing I urge she she's doing, and it just I know that I can't feel good about voting for him. Because. You know? I don't like like I mean, Eric writings in. If you've listened to the show for a long time. You know, this isn't an after the fact thing ice Eric writings for my money. And I said I said at the time screamed to me as one of the most dangerous politicians I had seen elected to an office since I've been able to vote so you're going back to nineteen Ninety-six. So this is before everything, and I understand and number of people who were upset the morning after Donald Trump had been elected president, we're focusing on that. And I recall saying, you know, that should be a wakeup call to a number of people in the country that they're bubble is not the entire country. I said, however, the Eric rights thing really scares me because I felt like Donald Trump is kind of here. He is in if you like it you like it. And if you don't you don't air greitens was here. He is. He is not who he's acting like he is. And he's going to do whatever we can to get to the White House, and it's like watching house of cards in real life. So the reason I bring that up is this person. I think very highly of and I said, you know, what about running for office? If you like you would, you know, but I don't want to put my family through it. I wanna put my family through don't wanna go through the song and dance. Don't wanna put my family through it. So my premises. I think there are a number of people who would be great leaders male female, black white gay straight. Whatever the case might be. But because of the game you have to play they don't wanna do it. And it's our loss. But then that goes back to I think in large capacity the media, which is why needs to probably be a bigger focal point. So to answer the question. I don't know the answer that doesn't mean that there is not a leader or people who are emerging as leaders, but for my money, there isn't somebody who obvious in other words, Steve stinger, light accrues in would be the two most obvious in the Saint Louis area, and for my money that wouldn't get my that wouldn't get my vote. I in in, you know, I'll say it. It's not because he was in here. Because if you listen, you know, that I have Democrats and Republicans in and I just asked questions and have conversations. So I'm not trying to advance any agenda, and we tried to get Steve Stenger at and he never got back to us. But I think I think it was a real loss for Saint Louis marked montavani didn't win. I'll say that. I feel strong on that. And that was very disappointing. That was very disappointing. Let's see do you think Saint Louis is going to become what LA was from nineteen ninety-five two thousand fifteen NFL owners in bad situations are going to use moving to Saint Louis as leverage for convincing their current cities into financing new stadiums. Also, do you think that the NFL really wants to be in the twenty first market as bad as the leaked info suggested to two parter start with this one? My answer is no I do not think Saint Louis is going to become what LA was from ninety five through two thousand fifteen it's an instant call. No. I just don't think that it all so I I I I'm sure you would like an elaboration on it. It's just as simple as Saint Louis does not present the threat that LA does. And that's to me that plus it's not like Saint Louis has a building. That is absolutely one hundred percent ready to go and the public financing plan. That's sitting there waiting so it's not that LA did until cranky privately financed it. But so there's that. And then do I think the NFL really wants to be in the twenty first market as bad as the leaked info suggests. I have to correct you there. This is one of the things this isn't a media thing. But it's just a, you know, part of social media in two thousand eighteen and really probably for years before twenty teen and I speak. I've spoken to it before where people have premises that aren't necessarily accurate than they build arguments off of the inaccurate foundation of the premise, and so the quote unquote, leaked info is not leak. There is no leaked information in. There was no suggestion. It was a reporter who does have a report with Josh crock saying if I were Saint Louis on impera phrasing. I would be talking to the San Diego Chargers. But that was you know, that was at now do I think there was significance to it. Yes. I do are the LA chargers too. I think there's significance to it. Yes. I do. But I, but there was not like it was a leaked information or a suggestion that the NFL wants to be in the twenty first market. So I appreciate the question. I just Sagredo with the premise. Let's see. Oh, I like this question. I just don't have an answer off the top of my head. And if I would have seen it beforehand. What was the when was the last time a public speech or performance, truly moved? You. It's like it's a shame that my answer. I know is going to automatically be killed by certain portion of the audience, which is such a shame. But I mean what I mean, this is how I feel Brock Obama's final speech before he left office. I felt like was Jordan over Russell to win the ninety eight finals dislike. Yeah. Did it again? And I just told him as a person necessarily entirely policy-wise as somebody. I would consider a great leader, and it would aspire to and I just automatically know a bunch of you don't like that. And you know, it's not like I'm saying, how do you not see this? What you're what are you doing? What are you doing voting for? So and so that's not what I'm saying. Just for me personally. So I'll go on the other side of the aisle because I feel like you have to do that. Even though I don't have to do that. The John McCain documentary so Brock Obama's opponent in two thousand eight the John McCain documentary, it wasn't a speech, but. For whom the bell. Tolls is the title of it. It was out this summer certainly available. You know a net flicks. I just I watched that. I'm just like God. And the reason why admire amusing these two people as an example. It's not limited to that. The question was when the last time is because they do things and are able to do things or are willing to do things that I just know. I just couldn't do what John McCain did in Vietnam. First off serving a number one. I have an incredible amount of respect for that. But secondarily, you know, what he endured and then coming back and doing a number of things out of principle. I just felt like he was a man of principle, which is why I was heartbroken when he selected Sarah Palin, his running mate heartbroken. It was an et tu brute moment, but I guess sometimes people feel like you know, what you gotta do. What you gotta do in order to get elected. And then. We'll we'll do. Right when we get into office. You know, but I found that to be incredibly inspiring. And that was I watched it before he passed away. I'm sure it's happened. Other times. But I guess in one sense to shame that I can't necessarily think of one off the top of my head in recent years against repeat anything that stands out to you that I might be. Missing and recent times as far as a public speech or performance, the truly moved me. Anything move you. Nothin' pitch out. Nobody going you liked when Missouri covered against Wyoming. That might be the last time anything no pitch out. 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As tough as Texas

Vox's The Weeds

38:31 min | 2 years ago

As tough as Texas

"Just excited for the first time ever people caring about amid terrible exit. That's what Donald Trump does to mid midterms. He makes them sexy again. Terms grading. What I'm to another special midterms episode of the weeds on the vox media podcast network. I'm Matthew yglesias here with Ellen Nelson and tear golsen two of the superstars of the vox congress team, which is also the vox midterms team because. When people came and the midterms are about who will serve in congress. So it's a, it's a natural synergy. And we're going to talk today about the great state of Texas, which for the first time in a long time is become a sort of high profile battleground state, and it's all thanks to the sexy charisma of better work PetO arc, right? Yeah. The Leica people seem to really want to know more about his. I mean, he's so this democrat, where's he from who's better congressman from El Paso, Texas. So it's this west Texas kind of ice lated district. He is a progressive. He's not shy about that. People didn't really know about better work before this year. He was kind of like a rank and file democrat, he didn't. He wasn't like making fireworks in the house by any means, but he has decided to live kind of long shot bid to. Unseat Ted Cruz in the Senate, and he has made himself relevant and because the race has suddenly become very competitive and he's raising a boatload of cash. Yes, that too. So here's a gambler. Right? Like he got into the house by challenging an incumbent House Democrat, yes. He which is unusual where like, not that many members got there by knocking off an incumbent of the same party. Right? So he's he's in a hurry, right? He could sat around and I'll pass. Oh, politics. Waited his turn, but like he, he wanted to one and then he showed up and he's a backbench House Democrat, which is extremely boring job to have. If you ever get speak toback bench House Democrats. But at the same time, like it's a safe seat, right? So like the sensible thing to do and it's Texas. So like the sensible thing to do if you're a democrat with safe seat in Texas is till I sit around. I might try to chair committee or do leadership or something like that. But instead he's running against cruise and like what gives anyone any sense like that could work? Well, I think when he first got into the race, everyone thought it wouldn't work. And and then all of a sudden, I mean, Ted Cruz is incredibly unpopular. He has a, he has a pretty bad reputation of just being unlikable and Beto kind of brought the Blue Wave to Texas like he kept showing up in different parts of the state where you wouldn't think democrat would bother showing up that his whole thing is that he's driven to every county in the state. He has like bipartisan relationships with another Texas Republican will heard that they've kind of was a moderate Republican. Yeah. Who's a moderate Republican who he's kind of used to show that he can. He can bridge divides in the state. And he has just made himself someone that you cannot ignore like he's in your face all of the time. He's all over social media. I mean, he's like the thing that always got me about that. Oh, from the beginning, it was just like he's constantly like filming himself, like for Facebook, live like an on Instagram and on social media. Like I feel like every moment of his life is like taped and broadcast to this wide audience, and he's like, he's like a cool guy. Yeah, right. I think is like integral in some ways. Understanding he's to be up. He used to be a punk rock. He was in a band as Republicans tried to shame him by his punk rock days and his photo of him wearing address right there was banned shaming. There's like a video of him, skateboarding in the what a burger parking lot and take cruises vary. I mean, you don't want to exaggerate it because like Texas conservative state, but but Republican senators don't have a lot of good things to say about Ted Cruz Ted Cruz in twenty twelve ran a couple points behind Mitt Romney, even though he didn't really have an opponent at all. He's a kind of dislike, -able character and better very likable. He's like the kind of politician that like people like want to think the best of him and he kinda like shrugged off this like drunk driving thing. Yeah, he that I think ordinary circumstances might have bothered people, right? I mean, he's very kind of the way he reacts to all of these attacks about him, kind of being cool kid who got into trouble. Is up front about it, so and I m p at people do shrug it off there. Well, we'll see if Republicans shrug it off a Democrats. But I mean, I think it's clear right if you're just assessing like better work as a politician, right? Like key may lose this ways. In fact, you probably will lose this race, but he is going to do better than like earlier Democrats winning statewide in Texas, right? Like like if he loses, it's going to be because most people in Texas are conservative Republicans, not because there's like some problem with that. Federal frayed I mean, the biggest Democrats in Texas will tell you that it's not a red state. It's a nonvoting state, but having Smith of Texas Tribune told one of our colleagues, Dylan, Scott at FOX, a smart quote of full fine. If it is a nonvoting state and it's red state will, then it is a red state. That's just the reality. So it is very likely that oracle lose, but the polls are showing that if he does lose, he'll probably still lose by a much smaller margin than Democrats typically lose the seat and that could have a huge impact for other races in the state. And it could really help Democrats kind of rebuild their infrastructure in the state. And that's a bigger trend rights Trump won Texas. And it wasn't that close, but it was much closer than it had been in twenty twelve or two thousand eight and Texas was suddenly closer than I. Oh, and closer than Ohio, which had been traditional swing states, right? So like this was a. Place where in two thousand sixteen Democrats had made some substantial gains and where trumps brand of politics seemed less popular than mitt Romney's or Jeb bushes. I mean, Democrats have had waves of hope for Texas going back. I think I remember in the two thousand two cycle they had what they thought was like a like a dream ticket in Texas State, wide races and everybody lost. I mean, I guess primarily because Texas has unlike most red states takes us both huge Latino population and some really big cities in Dallas and Houston. So those are like the building blocks of the Democratic Party is like non white voters in big cities. And then also in Austin, a very large college town. So it's like the main pillars of like a Democratic Party win are of there, but then they, they lose other races very badly well, and of course, especially in Austin, I wrote about this back in. The spring, Texas Republicans gerrymandered Austin with an inch of its life to make sure it wouldn't. You know that such a blue progressive city wouldn't have much of a chance and sort of making a dent in the states overall electoral chances. So awesome is it self is split into six different congressional desserts. Only one of which is represented by democrat Lloyd Doggett, and there have been numerous court cases about the Slyke, but some of this is by design. There are definitely like liberal pockets of Texas that just don't have the voting power of of rural parts of Texas, but also just like there are a lot of people in world, Texas and they are very conservative. Yes. I mean, like that's sort of been the issue here, but so what? What's the over crews campaigns like been going to out there? Are there issues? Are there the, what are they doing? So Ted Cruz his whole campaign is that he is the. True conservative that can win Texas in Texas is a red state in its conservative. That Beddoe is just clearly too liberal for a state like Texas. And when you listen to a debate between better or content cruise, you cannot find to two different candidates. Like it's a really stark divide between these two men when it comes to immigration. Ted cruises not for a Pat citizenship. Better orc is when it comes to healthcare better wants to move towards a single payer system and Ted Cruz wants to repeal ObamaCare. It's like every single issue that you come to. There's a stark divide. And what we're seeing is that they're focusing a lot of the attention on turning out voters further base, so you you see Ted Cruz kind of going toward some more Trumpian conservative angle, and you see bet are really kind of strongly signaling to people of color in the state during the debate, every chance he got he. Talk about racial injustice and police brutality, and those were kind of his main priorities when he was explaining his worldview. So I mean, what about this idea that a nonvoting state? Like, what does that mean? I mean, it means that people don't. So Texas has one of the lowest voter turnout rates in the country. So it's like thirty percent of the electorate is turning out till lex statewide white seats. And one of the things that was kind of interesting was back during the March. Primaries, like people were looking to see if turnout was going to be like incredibly greater this year has like better was running and it wasn't right. Like it was kind of like it was normal normal. Right? And, and of course most local scientists will tell you don't read the tea leaves of turnout in primaries for the general, but I was one kind of data point of like, is the energy different this year, and it didn't seem different in the primaries Nelson member, but a lot of it has to do with the fact that the biggest population for. Example, twenty sixty like the biggest group of Latino voters were not voting Asia, very young, and the biggest group of white voters were really old. And so like really old people vote all the time and really young people don't. And so those are just kind of the trends that Democrats are facing when going into November the villa, Tina Turner. Question in Texas in particular is important because to have a realistic view of what it is, right? It's you, you look at the Latino share the populations quite high to the electorate is very low, but some of that is because many Latinos in Texas are not citizens and many, the Latino citizens, Texas our children. So actually, you can't do anything to boost that turn out. But then on top of that, just like nationally, I good set of correlations about this African Americans and whites turn out at roughly similar rates among white people. College graduates turn out more the non graduate. So if you take education. Into account African-Americans, arguably voted higher rate than white people, but Latinos, it's opposite, right? It's a low educational attainment group. And then on top of that, it's a low turnout group and that's true in Texas, but it's also true in Florida. It's an in California and like Democrats have talked a lot about this. I feel like in the past fifteen years, but they haven't really done anything. Yeah. And it's been kind of interesting for me to see because I just a few weeks ago was out in Nevada covering the Senate race out there. And that is an example of state where the state party has really mastered the art of turning out Latino voters. And that's like the Harry Reid machine, but it's driven by a lot of grassroots groups that are, you know, run by Latino people in the community as people like numerous people were telling me it's run by people of the community for the community trying to turn Latino voters out and they are good at it and they're trying to increase it this year. But the thing that they. Told me, and you know, this makes perfect sense is that you have to be organizing all year round like it's not. You can't just like, all right, if you months before the election, like Gago DR get out the vote efforts. It's like you have to be in those communities every day all year round and the infrastructure Nevada is is so good. And it's been around for such a long time that they have this down. But I think in a lot of states like Texas, Florida, California, it's just that either. This is not as big of a priority or people just sort of haven't kind of gotten this down the way that people in Nevada. Have you have to remember in Texas? Of course, there's more grassroots energy now, but I mean, the Democratic Party has been kind of really like running thin for a long time. They didn't expect someone like better or to come in and do well. So did come to a shock to everybody. Although this is where I will say like energy really is different in Texas. My wife's parents live out in town called Ingram incur county, which is very conservative part of the state. Then also sort of. Typically for Texas, like not that politically mobilized. It's like both overwhelmingly Republican and also not really contested and also just have never like I've never seen much signs actively or anything out there. But when I was there over the summer, I actually saw bunch of better work signs some signs for for Joseph cop, sir, who's the house candidate there? And then also, I mean to be fair, like I saw signs for Ted Cruz and it is both more democratic signs, but also more Republican signs. You can see that there's a contested election happening, which I hadn't been the case in the past, but also like there is now a Kirk county, Democratic Party. You know, in the party has a new chair and they have a new website and they have a list of precinct captains and like they're not going to take over the county government. I think Trump won. Seventy percent there, but there's like there are people doing things right, at least organizing and preparing. Yeah. And you know, also like every vote counts where it's like even Cobb, sir, is I think probably gonna lose. He's a long shot house challenger, but like there are bluer parts of that district than this one, but like they have people on the ground everywhere. And for whatever reason like long-suffering, Texas Democrats have decided to kind of pop their heads over over the whole. Although I think it's gonna be sad when they lose also talking to Republican tragedy in the state and industry publican observers in the state. They are also noticing this in in panic illiterate like they, somebody told me that he's a Republican strategist based in Austin. He was like, yeah, there's yard sign panic, Alva, read, and then the Republican party has better signs or every right. And of course, I don't think that will do to like signs don't vote, but at the same time, it is a new. Notable trend in the state people always freak out about yard signs, man, we'll so I should say, you know. So your sense is interesting because there was a people used to always put out yard signs and then the Obama campaign in two thousand eight, I think, came to the conclusion that yard signs where we're useless. And then the Clinton campaign in two thousand sixteen, we like double down on this new anti yard, sign conventional wisdom, and they like barely put out any yard signs and stuff thing. And now there was a whole new literature that says that, no, like yard signs actually make a huge difference. I feel like being in New Hampshire, like being from New Hampshire and living in the state for a long time, it's just like yard, sign, fatigue, every few years. There's so many of them. That's the thing like in a in a conventional race, like both sides have a lot of yard signs in which case like you know, you don't. It's only having thousand seven yard signs as opposed to nine hundred ninety. Eight makes you win, but like unilateral yard signing, I've been commenced like it turns things around. And so they, they have to fear the bed signs, science. I also understand why someone like Beto would go full yard sign because I mean his biggest problem, this whole racist, nobody knew who he was. And so he just has to get his name out in Texas, a really big state and you're not going to meet every single person driving around. So I get it. Okay. So I think we should take a break and talk about the significance of this energy for some of the down ballot races that are maybe more actually viable for Democrats. I wanna tell you another podcast out there a call TED talks daily. Great podcast. You know what's giving you insights from a lot of really interesting people. Interesting figures around the world. They got an episode right now that's about day Andrea Salvador. This sustainability expert working in North Carolina and alleviating the cost of energy for a lot of families right now. So many people face the choice of pain for energy paying for other necessities like Pederson food and she is working on a multi strategy is going to address the home energy forty -bility gap in North Carolina, but potentially throughout the country in the world with community solar and other kinds of solutions. So Texas, in addition to having the Senate campaign that has gotten a lot of hype, but that remains heavily Republican-leaning essentially just like a big state that is full of house races, right? Where you know having just like people involved at the top of the ticket might help might not l. I think you you've reported on on some of these these wages and and we're talking mostly in the in the suburbs of the big city? Yes, right. Exactly. I mean, so sort of similar to what you see elsewhere in the country, but Texas has a bunch of big city. Yeah. So I think that they're map has expanded honestly, I should probably check in with the Dietrich and the Texas Democratic Party to see just how much the map has expanded. But when I was reporting back in March, they were three key districts. They're hoping to unseat incumbents in these districts. They're also a few open seats that Democrats are hoping to to take as well. But to the three big ones are the seventh congressional district, which is a big area kind of suburb outside of. Houston, the thirty second congressional district, which is again a suburb outside of Dallas. And then the twenty third congressional district, which is right of the San Antonio area. It's this huge district on Texas western side, and it can come his a big part of the border. And that's the one where the incumbent is will heard, who is sort of this young, moderate Republican African American used to work in the CIA. I mean, I think that the conventional wisdom is that's the one that's kind of flipped the most from democrat to Republican over the years. So that's the one that Democrats kind of have the best shot of winning back. So in all of these three districts, there are young people of color running on the democratic side. So in the twenty third congressional district, we have gene Ortiz Jones who is Filipina LGBT a veteran, I think used to work in the Obama administration in the the district outside of Dallas. If calling Allred, who is a former NFL player, which is is great and in Texas, which loves football and also civil rights attorney African American. And then in the. Outside Houston, Lizzy pedal Fletcher, who is a longtime attorney in Houston as is running against John Culbertson. And then of course, there is Jay Hagar, I think in Texas thirty one who has another young female veteran. So there are a lot of, you know, like young dynamic, diverse candidates running and and the other thing is that again is we were sort of speaking to like the enthusiasm for people to run in Texas. I mean, Donald Trump like elsewhere in the country definitely spurred something for Democrats in Texas, where for the first time in twenty five years, they were candidates running all thirty six of the state's congressional district. So that just speaks to the energy there. This the, the Collin Allred seat in particular. This was the one that Clinton actually, she narrowly won the district. We'll all three of these are the ones that Clinton narrowly want. That's why they're at the top of the. But I mean, Democrats literally didn't have candidate in that house seat in two thousand sixteen, right? So it's like to have. Quality candidates. I think all these people are and you don't even someone. I think we've finally got a poll out of the race Hagar's running in and she's like losing terribly 'cause it's actually very, very red district, but like she's a good candidate, right? It's like for the first time they have a sort of an embarrassment of riches to an extent, right? Like they have some good candidates just running districts that are hard to win and in the district's that they might win like they also have good. And during the primaries, it was like fields of like seven candidates running, like you said this like incredible like number of people that were stepping up to compete for the nomination. You've also had to give credit like heard in particular. I think like on paper seemed like incredibly incredibly vulnerable, but has held up sort of decently by, I don't know, like being a good candidate himself. He's among this kind of moderate Republican class that's actually not to hit hid. His district, right? But also benefited from the fact that we were talking about sort of enthusiasm and also traditional low turnout in Texas. But what's interesting is that Democrats have sort of looked at charts of Texas for years and sort of said, like, look, if we could mobilize, let's population like we could be, you know, incredible gains here and they have sort of mobilization like they hadn't had before. But when you look even just at the at the swing, like where did Hillary gain ground in two thousand sixteen versus where Obama been against Romney. It was actually primarily in those suburban districts. The seventh and north of Dallas rather than in three grand valley were heard is running and sort of an issue. Immigrants have a couple of California seats as well that like the the backlash Trump isn't located exactly where people had maybe like thought it would be right. I mean, right? We talked about women last week and it's. Like college educated women have been like the epicenter of Trump resistance. Yeah, absolutely. Do that that you know, like back in March, I think that if you talk to Democrats in Texas, certainly or or just political observers in Texas, they would say that hurts big border district was the most likeliest to flip just because historically, it's been the most likely to flip, but no, I think you're right. I mean, in in Texas and around the country, you know, Democrats are looking at these suburban districts where it is a lot of, you know, sort of moderate, maybe independent or moderate Republican voters that voted for Mitt Romney in the past and and maybe kind of held their nose and voted for Trump in two thousand sixteen. But really, you know, especially among women and we're seeing poll after poll showing this huge gap. I mean, CNN had this poll yesterday showing women. They had pulled much, you know it was like sixty three to thirty three percent saying that they were gonna vote for the democratic candidate compared to forty five percent of men saying that they were more likely to vote for the Republican. Antedates. So women across the country are driving democratic enthusiasm and favorability gains for Democrats and Democrats in particular, really are looking to these suburban districts to see if they can win over kind of moderate women who hate Donald Trump. I wanna do something about it. So even further down there is the state legislature, right? And I think it's almost more attainable in a way where so because there's so much enthusiasm for a better Aurora at the top of the ticket, a lot of Republicans are worried. That's that energy is going to go all the way down the ballot either because in Texas, you can. You can vote straight on the ballot. So they might just take democrat and everybody will go for them or even pedal might make Republicans reconsider and and go down the ballot themselves. So of course, Texas is very strongly Republican controlled. They have super majorities in both the state house chambers in the control, the governor's mansion. But at the same time. There three state Senate seats that are viable for Democrats to win back. And if they do that, then Democrats win some veto power in the state and also in the state house, the house speaker, Joe Straus, who's kind of this like dying breed of moderate Republican in the state is retiring. And so the state is gonna have this speaker race in the state house and their Ted. So seats in the state House Democrats could win, and they're never gonna get them Geordie in the state house. But depending on how many seats they win there, they could gain more kind of bargaining power to get a more moderate speaker in the state. And that was how Strauss came in speaker. Right? Was he? He's a Republican, but he got in over a more conservative Republican basically with the votes of democrat. Right, exactly. And yeah, and it's, it's probably Democrats biggest fear in the state to have a more conserve. Tive state house speaker Straus stopped a lot of really conservative legislation from going through like the bathroom Bill, for example. And so there is there's a lot of room for Democrats to have more bargaining power and to prevent Texas from going completely conservative in the coming years on the state level. But yeah, that doesn't actually as exciting as like, awesome that, but it's more clinically, but it's actually more important right? I'm always on the state legislature, train. Not as like a sexy topic as the Senate seat, but. One of the top of the ticket matters because like actually something tedious, like do Republicans have a super majority in the state Senate or just regular majority has a lot of impact on people's by. Right? But I think that doesn't necessarily like get people like out of bed in the morning, right? Whereas like taking on like comically evil, Ted Cruz is is siding. But like Mike, get you vote for your state Senate race. But I mean for Democrats, if they can get their voters to to vote because of comically evil Ted Cruz than they can set themselves up for success down the ballot. So take he is toughest Texas. Yeah, that ad that Richard Linklater Adwa so good. So this is an ad. It was just really making fun of Ted Cruz because tankers once upon a time was running as like the true conservative alternative to Donald Trump. Right, right. And like I mean, it feels like a million years ago, but he like, what did he do like really beat him up? Like he called his? I think he called him his wife, like unattractive and he, he called him lion. He called him lying Ted. He really went after Ted every possible way. And then Ted didn't really endorse him and then ended up endorsing him and now is like a huge Trump supporter. Like he went to the Republican national convention and refused to endorse Trump bright told everyone you have to vote your conscience. Yeah, by the crowd and almost seem like Ted Cruz was going to be there was this courageous figure. Right? And then at the insistence of his donors, he like endorsed him late in the campaign French judicial nominees, right. Well, I mean, you gotta remember all everything that happened in two thousand sixteen happened in the context of people assuming Trump was gonna lose, right, right. But then he won, you know, so that changed everything. But most of the like anti-trump Republican senators like only humiliating league started groveling before Trump after Trump. Actually one but crews started early after gone after him and also after after Trump being such a like jackass too, right? Yeah. So there was an ad for better Orrick that was basically poking fun at the idea that Tex edit. Ted is too tough for Texas because he couldn't stand up for firm self life. Somebody lifts no majority of the day is Ted Cruz toughest taxes. Come on somebody call my wife dog and said, my daddy was in on the Kennedy, says the nation. I wouldn't be kissing their ass. But I think like the biggest criticism of crews that you use to hear from Republican senators. Right? Was that like Ted Cruz wanted people to think that like he was so much more conservative than like all the regular Republican senators, but it actually what was happening was that he was pulling pointless stunts to advance his own. Nate, right. That's why like it was Lindsey. Graham at one point was like, if you murdered thinkers. Yeah, nobody would prosecute kilted crews on the Senate floor. The Senate would not rescue. Thank ridiculous. And like, that wasn't really because Ted Cruz Lindsey, Graham had like big disagreements on. Issues? No, it was. Ted Cruz was kind of like conservative, like he did. Did these like theatrical conservative stunts and it drove people nuts and everybody's understanding. 'cause like there's other very conservative senators, right? Like you have like James in Hoff's and whatnot. Right, right there just quieter about it. Well, and they're more. I think they're more effective rightly really will informed conservatives didn't look at Ted Cruz the Trix and say like this guy is really advancing our cause right. This was like Ted Cruz was trying to get elected president right as like really pissed off his workers and this back and forth with the Trump with like he's completely immoral to like, I'm Trump's best friend is like the same thing. It's like a ambitious guy in a kind of. I mean, there's nothing really wrong with politicians being ambitious, but also people don't like, and the results of this thing is to. Fold like one in the state of Texas people know exactly how they feel about Ted Cruz. There's no, like I'm not sure you either really like him or you really hate him. And in this past year, the other side of this is that Ted Cruz has been a lot quieter mostly out of a function because Trump is president and it's hard to kind of out Trump Trump, but he's also kind of played that inside game a little more. And I think that's why Republicans in the Senate are even willing to kind of come out for him at this point. And it was important play on his part where he realized I need a little bit more help here and you to be a team player to be a team player like it's not. It's not often that you see Ted Cruz in Dianne Feinstein, like working together on a Bill, and that happens here. He's trying to become a if people don't remember. This was back in twenty four tnr. I'd like Ted Cruz pretty much personally engineered dislike brief government shutdown, right care. Red green. Eggs and him on the Senate floor, and we haven't seen that right? Like everything that's been sort of contentious inside the Republican caucus. He's been like not involved with. Right, right. Like I neither way he's trying to make people like him. Right? Like hurricane Harvey, like he was all over that that was when he was trying to make a name for himself. It was very clear that he was trying to play to his state team player in the Senate. Not make a lot of noise and it's, I mean, he knew he lost favor. Directly, the new sort of mellow Ted Cruz. I don't know if I'd call him mellow but could ever call Ted Cruz mellows different. But you know, like he's not. The way he campaigned in the primary would suggest that like when Trump starts messing around with trade, the maybe Ted Cruz, it'd be a defender of like free trade orthodoxy and would take the White House on, but like he hasn't really done that. Right? Or the way he did a lot of other stuff would be. He might be like leading the charge to like shut the government down because we got to build the wall. He's not doing that either now. Right? So it's like even in polarized times, it's like there are things Republicans disagree about and like take crews used to be the guy who was like if there was going to be a fight, he was gonna pick side in the fight and make sure everyone was paying attention to him right now. It's like the opposite, right? He wants people to pay attention to his hurricane work. Exactly whether that has actually gracious itself on on the voters remains to be seen definitely has helped in for his his rep in Washington, I think, well, it also just like we -ality that I think we're publicans have realized like they actually. Lose this race, right? And they really don't want to write you can have your feelings about your fellow members. But like when it comes time to like contests control, it's like Mitch McConnell today was like shutting down all these complaints who at least mccaskey yet. Right? Yes. 'cause like last week, I bet he was super, no it with Lisa Murkowski now he wants to maturity in the Senate, right? He doesn't want Lisa Murkowski become a democrat, right? So. Okay, so let's just before we close out, where does this race actually stand cruises Chris's up cruises up the polls, kind of got very tight a month ago. They've kind of winding out again, so it is not out of the realm of possibility that could win, but it is unlikely that that I guess we should say, right. The other piece of context for this is the twenty eighteen Senate map is really, really bad for Democrats, right? You know, in the house, it's like there's a bunch of district's. We just looking at it. You're like, yeah, democrat win here. Right? So you give it your shot. You look at the Senate map and. It's really not like that. Right? Like Nevada and Arizona are both like sure, maybe. Yeah, I think Nevada more so than Arizona, but those are those are good places to go. Right. But then you look beyond that and it's nothing that pickup opportunities very long shot pickup opportunities. If Democrats hold all their red states, which. Then the other pickup opportunities are Texas, Tennessee, and Mississippi. Into in Tennessee. They have a candidate is Phil Bredesen's good recruit, but is like old time blue dog democrat from the 'oughts. So he's not somebody who people get excited about and part of the Texas enthusiasm. Right. Is in a different map when you had like seven pause, -able pickup opportunities, people might not be like so interested in the shot. But like while it's a super long shot, it's also sort of the best you can do the same time. The fact that democrat is only within six points of an income it Republican in Texas is that's something to be talked about. It is. It is no, right? I mean, it's an interesting, but I mean, I've seen a lot of second guessing on, right, like why are people giving all this money, right? And like, but like the reason they're giving all this money to him is that it's kinda close and also like, where else are you going. Going to put it. It's all well and good to say like, oh, Tennessee, but like a work has a campaign that is meant to appeal to a national national fired up, right? Yeah. And he is testing this theory. It's kind of like we do have these two different case studies. It's like Tennessee, you know, bread hasn is running as this super moderate blue dog dab. I mean, he came out and was like, I would vote for Cavanaugh that I was in the Senate last week for an better work as testing this complete other theory by appealing to the democratic base. So we, we're going to have these two kind of like case studies and twenty eight teen and maybe all these owners super amped about the state house races. Yes, that's it. Outer state donors are pouring money in because they're really concerned about who is super majority in the state Senate, but see you who have listened to the weeds. You are now woke your hip to what the real stakes are here. Joe stresses successor super majority in the state Senate couple suburban house races, maybe maybe the Senate. So thanks a lot, Ellen tire for breaking that all down for us. Thanks as always to our producer Griffin, Tanner, and the weeds will return on. Fred. Coming up. We wanna tell you a little bit about a great new podcast from FOX's sister site eater. It's called start to sail all about sort of under preneurs small business people operating the food sector. It's super interesting. Check it out. Hi, this is Aaron patinkin CEO of unle, and I'm tasha case CEO of cool house and together or the co hosts of start to sail. 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Breaking the news in Lubbock, Vet School and ReagorGate

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Breaking the news in Lubbock, Vet School and ReagorGate

"It was threes and cold and Dallas when I made my getaway. I. Cold front when I gave my truck. They're down thirty five with one thought on my mind. Forget the race minden open space de that. Hey there. Howdy. Thanks for tuning to your other side of Texas guys. Listen, boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen. A lot headed your way. I don't even like we are going down a dirt road. And we're about to through the steering wheel out the window. We're going eighty and I don't know where this program's going to land in the end because I thought I just thought that I knew what this show was going to go on today and then four clock came around and things just went beserk and with regards to what's going on with local politics. What's going on with state politics out some of that stuff's being run from here? Lots of scoop coming up for you here, and that's not even counting. What we're going to get. It into towards the end of today's edition of the program. And yeah, we got some rigor dykes. That's what we got. We got some rigor dykes regular gate stuff scoop going on as well. A man. My phone is on silent. And it's already flashing. We'll get in you wanna get in with this edition of the program. Eight oh, six seven four five fifty eight hundred that's eight six sim four five fifty eight hundred with you here. J west Texas Leeson broadcasting from the racer car wash studios racer car wash voted love excess wash for five years running stop into one of five convenient locations across your hub city, or maybe you're visiting the hub city over these next two weeks. That's another subject is anybody quantifying. I'll get back to the racer ad. Is anybody quantifying the economic impact of the next two weeks in Lubbock in which you've got the university of Texas. I you've got Oklahoma. It's going to be too great weeks. We're going to pull off one of those games. But man, it's going to be pandemonium here money yelling. Jim beam in otherwise right here in the rural metropolis. Racer car wash best wash around guaranteed. I use them you should too racer wash dot com. So let's just start off with this. I try to hit you get with you you and I hanging out here. I tried to give you the straight line. Try to give you the skinny I'm not listened to the advertisements in. You'll see me even sometimes oppose advertising. They're great advertisers know that there are a lot of folks. Listen this show, listen to the podcast in. I don't do this show on anybody's behalf other than my own because I feel like I didn't do this show. I might go nuts from Tom, Tom. This is constructive in you to be original smart and funny about things that that I see issues. And if you think back. I broke the news on other side of Texas that the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization act of two thousand eighteen something none of us think about an FAA reauthorization in a flyover state, or at least a portion of a flyover state right here in Lubbock or leave. It included a clause that said an amendment in the end that was signed into law that you cannot tax rental cars that are on airport premises or permited by airports, if the money in the revenues are going for projects away from the airport. I brought that and took a lot of heat that I didn't know what I was talking about. I was to bit radio guy. But hey, listen my west Texans. Just hear me out. I don't hit publish on my stuff. I don't turn on this Mike unless it to say what I want to say and less on. I'm absolutely sure enough. I'm not sure I'll raise a question. And then I'll go answer the question. mrS Leeson bless her heart. You know, whenever I got into this. I said, you know, it's no big deal just an hour. And you know, there's a little bit of prep, and then it's done. It's not done because they're all calls after the show the techs customer that I try not to read actually uneven ugly mailbag in speaking of we are not gonna do best and worse today because there's just too much in store. I'm laying all that out to say to you. Then I've been critical of one side of this issue. And they have shown me improved to me that they can overcome the rental car tax problem. If indeed, you know, it's going to go into federal lawsuits, and there's going to be all so worse case scenario, they have proven the me that they can overcome the rental car problem based on loan on hotel occupancy taxes in I was looking through numbers before the show. And I think they could overcome that based on the number two loan in even there. Eight hundred rooms about to come online in Lubbock. I think they're asked on rental cars can be mitigated by the current numbers. And especially with the numbers to come. Now to get in what I wanna get into four. We have Braddock Scott Braddock Braddock on Texas coming up in the next segment. Politics, especially Texas politics. I'm cynical b-a-e-n. I'm also loving it. I love Texas politics whenever you hear somebody. This is a cynical side have name in make a claim you can expect the opposite of that group. So they're always great consultant driven names Lubbock taxpayers for accountability. Now, if you watch cable, Fox News if you listen to some radio. Maybe on other stations, and that's not take dig. But I'm just laying out that their TV commercials radio commercials in a polemic throw three musketeers plethora of signs you've got to begin to ask yourself. Who's behind the group that calls themselves Lubbock tax payers for accountability. And there are a couple of other questions who beyond who why. And what's their alternative? Now. This has been a group that doesn't have a face. There's been nobody come forward in say, I'm leading this group. Other than a treasurer who became treasurer last Friday morning because the other treasurer backed down now, let me get into that accountability in a direct claim of count ability or an indirect reference to accountability in Texas politics is if anything an oxymoron in this is certainly the case with Lubbock tax payers, four accountability. I went down to Lubbock county elections office morning in got their filings pack treasurer filings, and what it shows is that there is a Charles hor grow otherwise known. This Charlie may be CJ Hargrove who was treasurer this pack. They fouled on October nineteen now his wife, presumably, I'm told his wife Lindsay was the assistant treas. Juror. Put a call into Lindsay today. Have put some. Put some messages in to Charles, Charlie CJ. But because on October twenty five last Friday morning, we're broadcasting on a Monday. The treasurer was changed for the accountability group looking out for fifty million dollars. Well, why why was the candidate changed or why was the treasurer change? And I'm told this. I'm told that Charles Charlie CJ, whatever we'll just call him Hargrove is the nephew of former state Representative out of Lubbock coral is it Carl is it representing proceeded. Bob, Bob, Duncan with us all genuflect, January ninety seven through two thousand ten. He is the nephew. I'm told of Carlisle is it the other guys the new treasurer. I'm also told that Hargrove's step down because he said, I can't go along with the tactics or the aims of this group. Now Hargrove you're welcome to come on and dismissed me, otherwise, but the other guy has worked Carl Isaac campaigns. And that's a great way to keep your name off of something that you don't wanna be associated with now all weekend. I've been told that Karl is it is behind he's leading the ring effort here with Lubbock tax payers for my whole point is if these people I wanna know who you are if you call yourselves accountability and want to know why you're taking the position you are. Because you are the defacto opposition party in this or the opponent in this in what's your alternative? My phone all weekend. This is Carl is it you gotta get Carl is a cold is it last night. And I said Carl is it are you a part of this effort? He told me despite presumably his nephew of former campaign worker and Carlisle now a lobbyist of ACL ACLU of Texas. I'm just reading off a few of these SAS institute, Texas council a community in H M are sinners Inc. There about. Eight eight nine of these could read through Corliss at told me, I don't know who runs that. I have no knowledge of it. I'm paraphrasing. He if I could quote, it was I don't know who runs it. I intend to give them a check though. So former campaign worker. Nephew. And why the nephew dropped off still unclear? That's what we know. Right now about Lubbock tax payers, four accountability. Seems they want accountability for everywhere. But what they're in for again. I raise rental car question. I'm raising the accountability question. Sick right with us going to get into some bread on Texas. We only take about ninety seconds worth of commercials. Be right back with you here on the other side. Let's do forty on this tightness. This segment of the program. Brought to you by title, one Lubbock digital real estate and title escrow, company, title, one committed to providing you with the highest level of communication and service from the time the contract opens and till it closes CO title one conserve your realty consumer in lending needs at title, one dot com. It is Monday boys and girls, which means that we get in with the editor of corn report dot com. Braddock onto Scott Braddock Braddock on Texas got Brenna Kelly doing. Good. That's very interesting response. Are you doing? Good. Actually, I've I've I've been I've been in that spot before to got how're you doing? But Brian not say exactly, but I mean, you've done radio before a lot of stuff rakes in. Then it's like we were going to and we our listeners. You're listening to podcasts. There's some rigor gates stuff that we're going to get into believe you me, but an hour before the program phone starts blowing up like it was blown up this weekend. With regard to Carl is it. And then my phone starts blown up about something else in. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for that by the rigor gate. I have a I have a role in some of the. No, we got the rigor gate reggae playing in the background. So brenick. I wanna get into bed in cruise. But I say this, and we get new listeners constantly, so let me lay out the groundwork. There are three leaders that three leaders of. Of texas. Government are affectively. Yes. The governor the Lieutenant governor who presides over the Senate the Texas Senate, and then you've got the speaker of the house who presides over the house one hundred fifty members of the house thirty one in the Senate. Whether might call your beats, Dan, Patrick, I think the odds seem to be in Patrick's favour the incumbent in a lot of problems in rural Texas with Dan, Patrick, especially with without Shire's in school funding, and the lifeblood of any community these look at that just like that elite my phone my phone still blown up a turn it on over the break, excuse me. But a lot of questions about sounds today. I think it adds to the program. It's exasperated. But I think it has to my hair right now. Like, my hair really can look like it hit. It can look like a Chia pet only. It's Brown and grey. And that's where it is. Right. I'm losing my mind. So that layout. Let's do this together. Take a breath. Though, the speaker is up in the air. Governor is going to plaster loopy Valdez, and Dan Patrick is going to have a good run. But might call your presumably Dan, Patrick bright in. So then look at the Texas house of representatives that has gone out of it's way, I think in recent sessions, of course, they meet for one hundred forty days every other year, they convene in January that house has gone out of its way to be Pru. Other side of Texas now. I think there is a speaker's race now. Because we had Joe Straus step down a new speaker race underway. It's all this is my first speaker race to cover its speakers rice for a lot of people to cover. It is wide. Open speakers race in in decades. Yes. So. You know, you've told me this many times offline site people off line, but I will cite you here. There's what you expect in. Then there's what you don't expect tell us about what happened last night, and what began to happen or what the result of it was. Well, it's very interesting. There was a meeting of some Republican members of the Texas house last night in Austin. We got word about this. And put out a report a corn report dot com last night. Of course, my phone was blowing up just as yours was with folks asking what it all means. But there has been sort of a Malays if you will within the membership of the house when it comes to the speaker's race because for months, it doesn't seem there's been a whole lot of movement. You know, we've had various candidates who had announced said they're running and they're visiting with people talking to the other members. Because one thing that you did not mention in the lead up to this which is. Significant is that while the governor and the Lieutenant governor are elected by Texas voters. The speaker is elected by the members of the Texas House Republicans, and the Democrats the liberals and the conservatives and the moderates everybody in between and in some ways because the statewide candidates like governor Abbott, and the tenant governor, Patrick are really elected within the Republican primary in March because you know, it looks like this year will turn out the same as many cycles in the past where the real election of consequence in this state is in the March primary and not in the November general election. We will see how it hands out, of course, no predictions here. But like you said it looks like statewide Republicans are gonna win their races. So the way that the speakers elected as unique it's among the members if the ultimate insider's game, and that's why my phone's blowing up in your phone. Blowing up because 'cause a certain extent, you're quite the inside or their j Leeson, and I gotta tell you. And I it's interesting. We are told that about forty members of the House Republicans met in Austin to talk about who they think the speaker ought to be and the person they came up with is not an announced candidate for speaker. It's Representative Dennis bonding. There's from south east, Texas. He was the chairman of the ways and means committee whenever you hold on. Whenever you say southeast. You mean on the coast Angleton right like Easter mangled, Tim south, Houston yester-. So not just southeast but a coastal Republican. I guess. Yeah. That's fair. So he represents part of Rosaria county, which is the Houston, and he has been the chairman of the ways and means committee. That's the tax Bill writing committee, very significant, and he has in the past done battle with the Lieutenant governor with the Senate when it comes to the issue of how to address skyrocketing property taxes in the state, it, it's of course, something that all voters are concerned about, but there's major disagreement even within the Republican party about how to address it. We can get back to that. But in the insiders game, you have had certain people and legislators from your area. In fact, I would say Representative Dustin Burrows was said to be instrumental over the last year in trying to set up a process by which the speaker would be elected by the members of the Republican caucus your listeners. Remember this because they are among. The most informed in Texas. And we've talked about this stuff. They did set up a process the Republicans did to choose an endorsed candidate within the caucus. And there is a meeting that supposed to come up after the election, which of course, has not happened yet. But a meeting of the caucus after the election in which they will get together and indoor sa- candidate, and while Representative boroughs, and others were very interested in pressuring other Republican members to sign a form pledging that they would abide by that process. We're told that Representative boroughs and others were meeting in Austin last night too. I think you could argue circumvent that process and try to pick someone who they came up with was Dennis bond. Very interesting to people. So what are the consequence of this? Hold on this be clear. Yes, sir. I'm a I'm a concrete thinker, not an abstract thinker. But. Rule was laid out. I'm told by boroughs to have the speaker elected within the Republican caucus in the house. And yet a speaker candidate who did not sign that pledge has been decided on by at least forty I'm told that maybe closer to twenty seven of the folks that met within the last twenty four hours. Yes. Okay. That's right. So they met and they came up with this person. Dennis bond who has been in the house for longtime veteran member of the house, and he's said to be mercurial somebody who is you know, has has a has a hot temper at times all the member of all the members of seeing that. But he's also a respected member of the house. But you have other candidates who have been announced as you know, and you were doing quite the impersonation earlier drew Darby from west Texas for price from west, Texas. You've got Tam Parker from the DFW area. And you did have John's was who is from the Houston area. And also feel king from weather for these folks running for speaker who, you know, just in fairness, I don't know that they really have had a str-. Strategy so to speak, you know, in trying to become speaker other than say that they are in announced candidate and visit with the members of the house, which is something that you need to do. Because again, those are the people who will make this decision the members. But I'm not sure that you know, they've had a specific strategy to try to get this done in. This instance, it looks like members came together with a strategy. Although it's not clear exactly whether they really have as many members as they say, they do because they've not released a list, we were told that as many as forty members got together at this meeting last night to talk about who the speaker is going to be. But there has been no list of who those speakers are due or who those members are produced for us or anybody else. And so I think in the last twelve hours or so there's been a lot of internal talk among members of the house about whether this is something that is a real play for the speakership or something that's going to unravel. I can tell you. Without naming names on this that there are some senior members of the house who were misrepresented in their intentions. There's always a lot of misinformation that gets spread around among the membership and lobbyists in Austin when there is a power struggle like this. But some senior members were said to be defecting from one of the announced candidates, and that was simply not true. So what may be the consequence here j Leeson is that there may be this push to try to get this gentleman, Mr. bond and elected speaker of the house, that's sort of unfolding in front of our eyes. But what may happen is a backlash to that? We're other Republicans who maybe are not supportive of this move will get their act together and come up with a strategy to try to get the person that they wanna see elected in those would be either. Among those announced candidates that we mentioned or maybe somebody else. Okay. So we have Scott Braddock on this show. Because of his political dexterity that we can get into not just what's going on within the beltway. But what's going on other sides, Texas, and I'm gonna follow that with a couple of things. It was was it. Not the speaker pledge presented by Representative boroughs. Yes, sir. Okay in I'm not look. The audience is to wide at like, I know the listenership that we have on livestream in. Then what we have especially with the podcast in DFW in Houston. And I don't sit around at least not in recent months since the re the gates that we've gone after in the investigation. It's not mine to to sit behind this microphone and go after one member in particular, it is this member that put together the pledge now Bonnin has not signed that pledge bond in from the coasts in Texas has not signed that pledge. Now, that's on top of that what's problematic here in the wake of region gate, Scott Braddock, and Scott Braddock on Twitter is that I'm told. Leading up to this program. At least the last hour and a half before the program when we air five PM central standard time members telling him by members. I mean state representatives telling me that Bonnin is a hard line. No now, you say southeast in I see coast. But I think whenever you say southeast Jay. Jay, Jay, I think your state to say nowhere near Lubbock. Well, so it's out these Texas don't belabor that point. You know, what ten hours from Lubbock? Yeah. It's not the regionalists in me. That's coming out here. It is the side of. Shall we say the Aggie war him? That's coming out in me that Texas him has absolutely opposed to Texas Tech having of at school. Maroon highs in that state house, and it would make sense if I wanted to be speaker to say, there's no way that there'll be a vet school again leading up to the program members reaching out to me saying how in the world are we pledging support four Dennis Bonnin in he's against enhanced maybe bun and made it deal. Maybe a deal went down last night. Braddock? I don't know. But for now when I've got members telling me swearing up and down is that bond and said, effectively, there's no way in hill that there will be a vet school in Amarillo. So help me with that help me help me try to go through all this wise Bonnin being supported by guys outta here. If that's the case that he's against bets. I've got to be honest with you, you would need to have the Representative from the area on the air and ask him. Fru low or borough. Well, it'd be either any one of them who would might support someone who's nowhere not from the area, and is said to be hard line against things that are good for your is through low to your knowledge whether. He is not one of these members. Okay to my knowledge. No. But I am. But but I am told that on good already. That Representative boroughs is. Okay. Scott brenick corn report editor just sit here. All be very interested. Follow up on that. If there's follow up. You're on the other side, Texas there will. Absolutely. Four to. And so I appreciate in corn report leading the way in that reporting. You can follow corn report again at Scott Braddock on Twitter. If you're not on Twitter, yet, just get one. I know our demos, I know people are on Twitter, but some of yarn you need to get on and tell you breathe a sign up, you know, but, but you know, you get what you pay for. Man. I, you know, I think it's interesting because real produce same thing Braddock, but go that's that. That's right. You know, you do have so much jockeying for position that goes on. There is a sentiment in San Antonio. For example, they are very disappointed in the fact that the speaker of the house, I I can't see any scenario where the next speaker is from that part of the state, and whoever that person is who whoever's holding that gavel wields a lot of power, and they're going to make, you know, big decisions about the kinds of things you're talking about and a whole lot more. I think that right now that what the members of the house or thinking about is whether or not the speaker is somebody who is going to be conservative be Republican. But also be somebody who is willing to say no to the governor and Lieutenant governor at certain times when it comes to issues like the school vouchers, which you talked about public edge. Education funding school, finance and all of that. And so and look a reason that there is a reason there are three of them. Right. There's a re- there's and there's a reason that at a fundamental level. It's not something a lot of people think about there's a reason there's an odd number of them that there are three three big leaders because that that way if you have one who's independent, then you have somebody who can break the tie were were simply say, no when there is something that a lot of folks think is bad for the state, prime example last year was the bathroom Bill, and you saw the way that that played out the house exercise conservatism, but also exercised and embodied independence. Scott brenick with within series. We close out taking a little bit long. Hope you can delay dinner for just a little bit Scott Braddock Quinnipiac coming out today. Let's switch gears Beddoe Aurore they had him down nine in. Now, they have him down five to Ted Cruz, your take they're very interesting of, you know, these polls have been, you know, the varied over the last few months, we're doing the summer you saw that. There was a much more competitive race in the state. And then we saw more recent polls that showed nine or ten point race. And now you have one that's five point race. Obviously the poll that's going to matter as the one that people are answering right now as we speak as they early vote have noticed there's some slowdown in the early voting. Of course last week, we saw with elections administrators said were just presidential style levels in early voting. And I'll be going through some of the numbers a little bit later in depth. But you know, just a few stats voters voted Republican primary with no democratic history. Have about an eighty four thousand voted vantage over voters who voted in a democratic primary with note Republican history over one third of the early voters are voters who did not vote in the twenty ten or twenty fourteen midterm elections. So that tells you that there are a lot of people who are voting for the first time in one of these non-presidential years, which is very interesting, and when you remove the ballot by mail voters from the equation voters age fifty fifty nine make up about twenty one point five percent of the votes cast, so far I and for the younger voters, they only make up the ones that are about twenty to twenty nine of those are in their twenties make up about nine point four percent. So that would not seem to boat as well for the Democrats. Look, this is as we started talking about here at the at the outset it's still a Republican state at least among those who. Participate in voting, and it was telling somebody earlier today, this phenomenon with Beto Royd people are so excited about this guy pumped up they're going all these rallies all across the state. It's kind of like they have had you know, lightening strike, but I'm not sure they're able to catch it in the bottle. We were we tried to get better a roar on this program. He was in Lubbock today had to get to which falls on the schedule. The Senator Ted Cruz will be in Lubbock better rooks opponent being Lubbock on Halloween tried to get him as well all the latest on Texas politics. If you're interested in it, and you know spa virtue program yacht. Be follow at Scott Braddock on Twitter and corn report dot com. Thank you, Scott Braddock. Thank you. Lisa. Always look forward to talks and everybody knew that you were come on show today. In so down the awesome way in some phone blew up. I you to blame for at least thousand news strands of gray hair, Scott bragging, I'm here to help. All right. We look for you being helpful next week. See then Scott. Jay. Thank you. Hey gonna get out with Scott Braddock and get into comeback around to some regular gate. I know that some view many of you are falling. Listen, we let me I'm not gonna talk about in the next segment, but I am going to tell you that we have an amazing story coming on the regular gate front in something that is gonna be popcorn worthy. And we're gonna get in to that. I think maybe this week the beginning of next week. But my goodness if things couldn't get worse. They're about to get more worse far worse as it were stick with us right here. We only do ninety second commercial breaks. Hope appreciate that. That's what we try to bring you here on this program gonna go make some money with some great sponsors. Check them out right here on the other side of Texas. So back to where we were. This audio then apparently takes place, according to the Lubbock avalanche journal March two thousand seventeen. Now. And the vent back in March two thousand seventeen shall we say the audio still believe is from January two thousand eighteen post in by the Lubbock insurance, and they have the transcript as well. What we played for you. The now infamous when you got audio that minute and a half came from when the same virtual meetings, led by Bart rigor, where he the the object of his consternation was a manager in plain view. I'm told who failed this film this on in this audit in had to go raise twenty five million dollars did Bart regular again. How lose investors Phil? I don't know. But I'm just laying out to you trying to put two puzzle pieces together here say that what we released was the audio in which Bart regular was inflicting upon a plain view manager. What was followed up on apparently? Still on his mind in January two thousand eighteen. Nearly a year later in this audio beam. So if you so here's the problem. I heard Texas only take you on a ride produced second it at Texas Tech. I took in I'm going to be really transparent with you guys. Not a big drinker wasn't a big drinker in college. But. I took an addiction course at Texas Tech. And we use a three hours every Tuesday know, we go into this addictions course, and people would get up in like whenever you wanna get up in say something before public before the public about when a your wrong-doings misgivings. Like applaud that. Thank you. But when you get up and you go through the vacuum bag of what's going on. Then that's not helpful to you or the audience when we go into big detail on what's going on in would go through. This course in often somebody would come forward because it wasn't addictions course, in for whatever reason I was monitoring in family studies majoring in journalism, but there would be these people come forward in. They would go through like essentially, beginning drink recipes like he'll I'll have an old fashioned in, you know, telling you how that's done. I never drink as much in one semesters, I did in the addictions courts in Carl Anderson. I think the world of him. I don't think that was his intention but anyway, back to the subject hand just stick with me. What Carl I remember one time in Carleen Orson venerated in Lubbock, Texas Tech. He said this you can be a whole. In stop drinking, and you'll still be a hole in. I thought that was really important here because there's a a bigger defect than just chemicals within one that needs to be corrected now. If you heard our audio. From mid early two thousand seventeen in that tirade with Borrego going off on. Apparently, I'm told the manager in plain view. In. You didn't think that he was already the aforementioned part of the human anatomy for him the double down on it in two thousand eighteen early two thousand eighteen take jabs at his investors, essentially calling them incompetent with whom he raised some twenty five million dollars and then taking jabs at Lubbock. Again. The problem is not the pride. The problem is deeper than that in. That's when I see there. So tomorrow, we're going to try to do or maybe Wednesday. We're gonna take some time plays. Some of this audio back toback Daniel. Yeah. You you've got some work to do. We're going to bleep out the audio with AJ complete side by side. And then work on our other developing Raygor gates story and bring you some good stuff as the week goes along in. You know, the case is going slow. The rigor gate case. But. That doesn't mean that the stories in. Here's the problem for Bart rigor is that a lot of his former employees film Bolden now. And they're talking more and more in we're going to get into some of that stuff and more, hey for this edition. Holy cow. The hour is already passed. No best and worst for this weekend. I don't have time to get into and worst here. Even though I love my kids. I love my Roscoe Wilson kids, I loved being roscoe's scarecrow. There are fall festival. Our public school. I've got to get outta here. 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 Lubbock County Democrats look forward + Atheists want to pray publicly in Lubbock

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Lubbock County Democrats look forward + Atheists want to pray publicly in Lubbock

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And as always telling your friends, that's what we rely on here. Just friend the friend and word of mouth on other side at Texas wherever listen from. We appreciate you tuning in as we broadcast live on AM five eighty Lubbock. The most listened to platform in the region, perhaps the state whenever you count for all you guys who tune into our podcast pre sheets doing that. I'm your host Jay west Texas Leeson rolling along here from the racer car wash studios. Racer car wash voted love expense wash for five years running. Stop into one of five convenient locations for the best wash around voted the best wash around. Bob years in hub city, guaranteed racer wash dot com. Like coming up in this program. It's going to be a conversation Thursday, John Gibson, who is chairman of the Lubbock county Democratic Party gonna be joining us. What's the way forward? A lot of folks who are interested in listening to that is in John Gibson in studio. Get him just a moment. But here's one where we when the kickoff today, the atheists in the city of Lubbock gonna give the invocation. On Thursday night at the Lubbock city council meeting. This from Casey be d Lubbock read some stories. I like kacie b slant the best because it sets me up to hit some T-ball home runs here on the program. Dateline Lubbock, the Lubbock city council agenda Garner's some attention at times. But this week. It's not for what's on the agenda tool. Be speaking during the usual time of prayer known as the invocation. It was announced last fall at a local atheist group would be given would be giving the invocation sometime in January of this year. And now is set in stone that members of the atheist community of Lubbock that's an official group. I've not looked up on Facebook. But it's the atheist community. A Lubbock will be speaking before the city council. Members this Thursday. He'll be led by their communications in public relations director, Tracy benefit. Now, let me go out on a on a branch here in say, I bet she doesn't get paid very much as I say about liberals in the city Lubbock the chairman in studio may disagree with me more aborigines in Lubbock than there are real liberals. And I would think even the less atheists in Lubbock, but Tracy benefit to do the invocation. Quote. We know there's a lot of people in our group who have lost everything when they come out as atheists. So we want to de stigmatize what it means to be atheists said benefit benefits said she will use the time to invoke ideas, invoke invocation. Invoke ideas. Quote, we are most mostly going to be talking about how we need to come together. As a city, we are the friendliest city in America eight that's what's on the billboards can't descru- Benfield there. We need to think about every minority in Lubbock in thinking about how we can work together. So. So every minority is being carried under the banner of the atheists getting the I don't know what how minorities I'm sure if I reached out to a few of them. They would have a problem with being represented by the eighth easiest, but that's what benefits says we need to be thinking about every minority in Lubbock and thinking about how we can work together. The option of having an atheist give the invocation was announced back in the fall. This has had mixed reaction. Now, listen, it was announced back in the fall that the option would be open. I think. In call me whenever you may. But I think the con- the constitution of these United States gives that option I think that that was announced like way back in the eighteenth century that that option would be open quote. It doesn't really stick within the definition of an indication because it is calling to someone else. If you don't believe there is someone else than you're speaking into the air said Jeff MC Reich, pastor of wrought city church. Jeff mcbride. Following local politics as I do fancies himself on being a political thorny on all things. God centered MC right saying that they're just going to speak into mid air. But I don't know how wrong he is there than I wanna read the rest of this. And we'll break it down benefit explained that an invocation doesn't always mean. Prayer quote. Most people are familiar with a prayer being an invocation, but in invocation doesn't mean prayer those words aren't synonymous an invocation simply means to ask someone or something for help mayor Dan pope emits, it was even a little confusing for him. Quote, first question was I really don't understand who atheists pray to but the more I looked into it. My intuition is that constitution protected their rights in the end. He hopes the community finds a way to accept it quote. I think part of west Texas of part of the west Texas value system is that we are not judgmental. We take care of our neighbor. And we love our neighbor, whatever they may believe they Theus community of Lubbock will give the invocation coming up on Thursday, forty eight hours from where we broadcast live here. Thursday at five fifteen pm couple of things to riff on here. As I look through all this. I don't think that benefit is wrong. I think that she is right in that in imitation means to ask someone or something for help. That's intrinsically what an invocation is to beseech or invoke someone or something for assistance or thority. But. An atheist which means a non theorist someone who doesn't believe in something higher than they must be praying for ideals or principles or whatever the case might be. I know a lot of people who treat treat the constitution. As though were God that they're praying to thing or something not someone, and you know, listen, I'm pretty devout guy. I've got my shingle on the wall. I'm. I've done my theology degree in its Wesleyan, by the way. Methodists Wesleyan, but more Wesleyan Methodist, I don't wanna get into the weeds there. But I sat through a lot of public prayers in gotta tell you. I mean, just being honest with you raven on with you. I hear a lot of public prayers and lots of times, I'm holding my hand my head and my hands in ring among thumbs. Because once you get into public prayers, you get into the weeds of the Olivetti, and is as a Wesleyan as somebody who's trinitaria n- if we're gonna do prayers in this country. You know, I don't believe that the country was founded as a Christian nation. I think it was founded by people who had here to Christian principles, but Yay. Get in the public prayers. I think that there's a reason why we stopped doing it. Because I've heard a lot of good Baptist kids give a prayer before the football game. But, you know, also heard in those Baptists kids prayers is a lot of adoption ISM subordination ISM monarchism. And if you don't know what any of those 'isms are just go Google them. For me. The belief is. That you've got three persons of one substance in that's trinitaria, Missouri. That's the nice seeing creed. Those are the classical creeds, but you can hear a lot of prayers in here that Jesus the son of God is something other than the father of God in that creates a problem in. So I was talking to a the earlier who said no is there a law that says you can't have more than two invocations like maybe we can back up the atheists here in have our own invocation. I don't think that there is a log ins that. But how many people do you want giving invocations at a public meeting where all you want to get done is just the agenda that to me is the issue is. Well, okay. So you're going to have atheist prey than the Mormons prey, then the Jehovah's Witness pray, and then a Catholic pray and then the Baptist. Pray just to make sure that you get it all covered over. I don't blame the love, and I don't understand the voter cycles. And this is something that Ross. Ramsey our friend from the texts Tarim talks about I don't understand why there's not a bigger uproar about this. But the same time I'm glad there's not an uproar about this. Because nobody wants to go to a city council meeting and listen through thirty minutes of invocations. I don't for atheists. This is what I will say this the old far side cartoon to fleas. Standing somewhere one standing up against the follicle a hair follicle that looks like a big palm tree trunk coming out of the body of something. In one flea looks at the other fleeing and says, so he really believe there's a a dog in. That's what I think I think it takes a lot of faith to be an atheist, and whatever they might say, whatever they might invoke. I'm sure that they're going to invoke principles in for us to have the the better graces of one another. I'm sure that's the route that they're going to go but new day in Lubbock county in the city of Lubbock that eighty eight Theus get the invocation to invoke something or someone for assistance or authority look forward to hearing what they have to say, they're at the Lubbock city council. Somebody else who had looking forward to what they had to say. John gibson. He is Lubbock county Democratic Party chairman. We're gonna have a good conversation coming up those you who younger like I am wondering what's happened in two thousand eighteen is there even the possibility of viable two party system in Lubbock in the surrounding area. John Gibson, somebody good to talk to about that. We'll be in with John gives about ninety seconds from now stick with us right here on the other side of Texas will get him John. What? Some. The Jags all the stars up in the sky. So. In studio with us. We have John Gibson in. He is the Lubbock county democratic chairman preciado him making time to come out with us here. John gibson. Your your debut here on the show, tell us how your I'm doing good. I was on the road yesterday. And I missed your show has Daniel the millennial gut near the new digital studio. Or is he he's working on his working on? It is em- process right now some things to do in and out. Appreciate you checking on the progress of the show Daniel is in process, and if he's listening let that be motivation to Daniel that listeners are wondering what your progress is you got the ipad over there. Yeah. I need some the second generation. I have no third. I have no idea. I think it's the second. Yeah. I'm terrible with names. And so it helps if I've got notes. Yeah. You got twelve inch. That's when I run the program off of okay? Yeah. Got mon. But I got it in the a defender there. There by author box because I don't have young children or you don't have young children. I do so. Okay. So there there's a point of mutual concern. John weather people going to do let me give you my breakdown. My breakdown is that in you, disagree with me as you may. I think if Beddoe Rourke had not taken some unprompted unnecessary stances. He could have become the next you Senator now people read into in because he lost by less than three points. If he hadn't taken the stand that he did on the flag and kneeling at the flag. Then I think that he could had a lot more people come his way. But that was easy Pickens. Ted Cruz ran as ruthlessly in west Texas in rural regions of west Texas during Sunday night football, Monday night football of a a veteran who. Lost his legs stand for me. Stand. For me took a lot of cues that made me wonder is running for president as a run running for Senate. But we're guardless of that he still lost by less than three percent. I would think that as a chairman of an I'm just gonna say, you're chairman of the eleventh largest county in Texas. What your folks feel like in what you alike is the way forward, they're given the progress unprecedented progress since the state went Republican well first off I think there's a difference between what Beto did. And what some of our local candidates did. I mean, we gotta be honest locally. We didn't do probably as well as we would have wanted to given the fact that but oh made the showing he made you talked about Beddoes success or lack thereof barely missing out. I don't think there's ever any one thing that causes a politician to lose an election. There's usually multiple factors. I have complained some about this with respect to bed. Oh, I think that had he done what what's called the hero's journey. You do hauteur and fifty four county tour and got all these different counties. And then you come out of it, a new person you come out of it. And you say, well, I visited the cotton farmers in lamesa. And I learned this about. About this. And so now, here's my new policy point on this or I went to the timber farms and east, Texas, the sawmills, or whatever you come out of that. And you change your policies somewhat. You don't have to change a great deal, but you change somewhat that would have been beneficial. I don't think the the whole standing for the flag, and that sort of thing, I think that that would have cost him votes on the democratic side had he changed positions on something like that. But the chain. That's my question though. Joe that's just he didn't change. No. He took an unprompted stance. Right. And it it excited a lot of people. I don't think you can fault him for that. I think there's there's a lot of people on our side that were really invigorated by his stance. But I'm saying that had he gone and taking a taken a stance after doing his two hundred fifty four county tour where he says okay now, for instance, I'm gonna go ahead and vote for the farm Bill, even though the rest of democratic colleagues aren't vote for the farm Bill, for instance, that might have gotten him some. Or favorite west, Texas, didn't right? But he didn't. That's what I'm saying. Okay. You know, there's things like that. There's things like I know that millennials like to drop f bombs right and left, and it's cool for a millennial to do that sort of thing. But you know, it doesn't cost you votes to clean up your language. You don't lose anything. But you see that more as a liability to him than the flag stands prompted when you're only talking about losing by three percent. Every little thing counts. You know, you're talking about something with the flag that might have been a a a it's one of the things that you're gonna make a break you, and I don't think you're gonna get a whole bunch of Republicans to go and say, oh, you know, what I'm gonna vote for Beto. Because now he's or because he's taking a position with the fruits of the flag that I like that's the hard core. Okay. You're talking about the interest people. I think for the interest people you get some little a lady in Arlington, Texas, for instance, who's about. To be in a nursing home. And she hears this drop an f-bomb. She may like him. She may go boy, he looks like like, you know, Bobby Kennedy, and I like that guy. But then he says something that offends her will then she's not gonna vote for it or maybe post. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Pose? And and that's just sit you got west of I thirty five where he struggled. I think there are some people within the Democratic Party who look at it and go, well, he didn't get enough Hispanics out. Well, okay. Yeah. That may be one factor too. There are all kinds of different things that could put him over that three percent fresh oil. No, no one single factor. Did it for him? But there are a number of things could have tweet. My view is Hettie tweaked that children fit four county tour and heady cleaned up his language a bit. It would have helped me to make the case for him with with my contact with the people that I regard well in the circles that I run if you've got somebody who's out there dropping f bombs it gets really really hard to go to church and say, hey, this is this is the guy you need to be supporting people are turned off by that. Even though they may like the message, even though they may like a lot of the things he saying it's hard to get over things like that. Yeah. So John Gibson who is the Lubbock county Democratic Party chair. He came in this role. How John e been here since ninety three. So a lot of millennials. You could say I've been here longer than you've been alive. Yeah. But you came in. Roll hal. I sometimes question that myself. I have always been politically active in the sense that in the local people here know this. I was the youngest person ever elected to a countywide office in the Harris County GOP Harris County Republican party that was back when I was in college, my wife, and I were married at the time. When did you get elected to I was the I was on the candidate selection committee. Okay. So like, we've got this guy that we recruited run for district judge there in Harris County that he went on to become attorney general, and and you may know him, Greg Abbott. He's now in the governor's office. You know, that's one of our recruits Ted POE who was recruited for run for judge. And then he was congressman Dan Crenshaw just took his place. I think I'm I'm terrible with names in Crenshaw thinks dozen the patch cabbage. Anyway, did that head sort of a falling out in the sense that? It's the same thing everywhere. I think with the GOP too far to the right? They get a little bit. Theocratic all or you know, you get into these kinds of things where it's just pretty hateful and ugly. And I didn't like that. Anyway, came up here for law school American meal, shoe gal, and she insisted that we come here for law school and bought a house. And so that tied to Lubbock to where I wasn't going to leave and my wife has happy with that. And then in the meantime, I really wasn't really excited about the Republican party here in town because it seemed to be the same way what I'd encountered in Houston and was voting democrat democratic because that was where my values seem to be going. And then over the years, I've just been more and more to the point where I felt like I really needed to take more of an active role in the political process, and excuse me, I got involved the Lubbock Democratic Party. And like I said, they sort of know my background. And so everybody knows that. I'm something of a centrist when it comes to comes to democratic values and principles and whatnot. And and the party faithful here elected me chairman. So that's how you got here. Yeah. So here, so I wanna do only take a quick break. And then I wanna get him with you on what the way forward is. We've just talked about Beddoe in his imprint and the sort of gains that were made gains that and maybe disagree with me gains throughout the state, especially in suburban and urban areas, but not felt here. So maybe in suburban and urban areas they feel like it's best to go further into. Democratic platform dogma, but can Lubbock do the same in still get some results will give them with John Gibson on that is he takes drink water. We get into the break. You're listening to other side of Texas about ninety seconds. We'll be right back with you KRLD. Love. Do the sound. Jones. Fans knew. Have on the air with us. John Gibson who is the Lubbock county Democratic Party chairman people take offense to. Democrats being called democratic they to say, the Lubbock county democrat party talked to us about parlance there. I have no idea where that comes from people. Tell me that Rush Limbaugh is the one that started that I'm old enough. I remember the world before Rush Limbaugh. And and back whenever I was in college, the professors would complain about that sort of thing. I don't I really complain that it should be called democratic or democrat both. Okay. Because unlike what a lot of Republicans believe when you go to college, and you're in the political science department. They aren't all raving liberals, you've got conservatives in the political science departments to and I would have conservative professors that would insist that you call it democrat, and I'd have liberal professors, call it democratic you insist on just whatever comes out of my mouth grad democratic I get some of my some people will will correct me at times because I happen to make the mistake of saying. Democrat at times, but democratic Democratic Party. I I don't say democrat party at that sounds kind of silly. I would say Democratic Party. I mean, but it's it's semantic quibbles. I don't I don't get caught up in those kinds of games. Yeah. Okay. So I tried to get you caught up in that game. But you stiff arm there, John Gibson. But you are an attorney sure. Yep. Okay. What do you practice worker's comp? Okay. So guys mostly guys getting injured out in the oilfield. I've got an office. No Desa, and I spent a lot of time out. No Desa, but I love Lubbock. And this is where we raised our family, and this is where I wanna live. But yeah, the injuries the work is out in out in the oilfield. So so, but also you run out of DFW as well from time to time. Yeah, I've got an office in Fort Worth too. So okay. That to say, we don't have just some schlumpy sittin here. You know, it's not like it's not like there's a guy who just ran for Democratic Party chair who doesn't really do anything. I mean, you're an accomplish your accomplished within your profession. I'm. I'm blessed to have good clients that have given me some good cases and had some good success with that. So what's the way forward? John. Are we going to see the Democratic Party because you know, I say this all time we rave on in the program in always say, I'm non adherent. I'm not a devout adherent, I vote Republican, but I'm not a devout adherent to either party. And I think a lot of people listening program. I'm thirty nine people who are younger than me who if we go through and we look at the demographics and who's listening to the podcast. I think it'll show that the not devout adherents either in. I think a lot of people are wondering what this Lubbock county Republican party do. Now, we can critique Beto all day long. But in day moss by less than three points. Does the Lubbock county Democratic Party look that is cute run further to the left. Or run more to the middle. You know, I don't know with respect to the state party. I can tell you that here locally. I think that one of the reasons why I got elected was because I am more of a moderate. And I think that we were elected win. I think June. I think okay. So this is before all the November hullabaloo area. Yeah. But anyway, yeah. Here. Locally the problem that we have is. We've got thirty percent versus seventy percents. I mean, that's just the fact and we can slowly over time road that thirty percent or erode the seventy percent and gain numbers off the thirty percent. But what the Democratic Party here is primarily right now as a watchdog for the Republicans. And so yeah, I want to see my Republican legislators do well because I live in this community. And I like you I'm somebody who believes in the politics of place, and I want my Republican legislators to have success for the south plains. You know, Bob Duncan. I know Bob Duncan. He's a he's a good guy thought he did a really really good job state Senator is pointed at his campaign side. Yeah, you've got you've gotta sign here. There were times when I disagreed with what Senator Dunkin might have have, you know, legislated. However, I appreciated the fact that he was a statesman. We have local politicians that I don't believe are in the same class as Robert Duncan. And so therefore, it is the it is incumbent upon the local Democratic Party to hold our politicians feet to the fire and say, look when you go to a league of women voters breakfast, and you say that we don't really need to pay attention to renewable energy, for instance, when for crying out loud who said that. One of our one of our three put it that. Okay. One of our three said, we don't need to be paying attention to renewable energy fossil fuels is is where we're going to focus our attention. Okay. That's fine. But that's that's just. That stupid. I mean, Lubbock has more sunshine and more wind than probably anywhere else in the country. And why are we not going to go and pay attention to renewable energy in this area? The reason why that's important is tucked any millennial, and they're going to tell you man, my future's at stake. You people aren't paying attention to global warming and my future's at stake. And I wanna party that pays attention to environmental issues. Well, democratic party's gonna be paying attention to that. And but here locally, we're going to be holding our local politicians accountable win. They don't engage in that politics. A place, for instance, and pay attention to renewable energy here. Fossil fuels. You know, if you're down in Odessa fossil fuels are important fossil fuels aren't important in Lubbock county. That's we're the we're the pump jacks going low accounting. You don't see any what you do see your win meals, and we need to be paying attention to renewable energy here in this county. So anyway, like, I say. And I think that one primary function that we need to be engaged in is holding our legislators feet to the fire and making sure that they are engaged in politics place. The other thing is is I'm a generation xer. I'm assuming you are to somewhere in the. You know, my generation is nothing more than a placeholder for the next generation the millennials are gonna come along. And what we're seeing you. You had the the professor from tech last week that was talking about southern politics. He didn't talk about generational politics. And we were in the middle of a generational shift. Where a lot of new issues are coming up with millennials that need to be addressed. And one of the things that we need to be doing here. Locally is we need to be recruiting good candidates candidates. That are have character charisma, and competency, you might have seen Claire mccaskill have the interview on. I think it was dateline couple months ago where it was like the exit interview. And and a lot of the people in Democratic Party were pooh-pooh in her responses because she's more of a conservative democrat, and she was complaining about the Democratic Party saying we pay attention too much to identity politics, which I would agree. We do we need to get away from identity politics guards. What in what regards? Do we pay too much attention identity politics? Just speaking personally and not on behalf of the party. I was a supporter of injury white. I thought it was silly for the for the powers that be done in Austin to look at the at the ticket and go. Wow, we got a bunch of white, you know, bunch of white man on the ticket. We need to go out and get somebody who isn't a white male. Well, you know, we saw what happened with Luba Valdez just got a bum. Steer ward him, the texts monthly round of the poorest run campaigns. But still within thirteen points, and I will concur with you there chairman why? Still within thirteen points. She still came within thirteen points at sixteen points. Well, no, I mean, she got trounced by thirteen points, L K. Well compared to Wendy Davis. It's pretty good. I mean, that's my standard there. That's a last serious quote unquote serious candidate. And I appreciate you corrected me. But but again what we're talking about there. If we're talking about the entity politics run campaign. He even ran ads from this radio. They never asked me for permission. But they ran ads. Yeah. My show about what a disaster. She was right. No. I saw the ads. No. But that shit that was identity politics get away from the identity politics. Let's get character, competency, and charisma. Let's get candidates that have those characteristics. And who cares if they're black white Christian, Muslim, Brown, Latino, whatever whatever is praying. At the Lubbock county or Lubbock sitting, you know, if they got character charisma incompetence more power to them. Let's get them regardless of their gender. Any of that kind of stuff? We need candidates that have those qualities, and so part of what I have to do is is I have to identify those people in our community that have those qualities that also have the same values that we have in the Democratic Party, and we need to you know, we need to be encouraging those people to get involved and growing those people within the democrat. So you just said you personally speaking is that not a feeling within the the mainstream of the Lubbock county Democratic Party. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I'm giving my personal opinions. And I'm not speaking on behalf of the of the party proper. You've had meetings since the election. Sure is that a fair sampling of what you're saying. No, that's that's my. Personal tirade that. I just went on. Yeah. That's not. So then I would think you as chairman or saying, hey, guys, we've got to begin to appeal to the middle. We have an opportunity here. And maybe that is or is not being hurt. Lubbock is a very unique place. It's it's it's a. Lubbock presents a number of challenges. We had one candidate in the last election who was dyed in the wool Bernie Sanders. Democrat we had another candidate who was more of a Jon tester much more conservative democratic candidate. Our are Bernie Sanders candidate lost forty percent to sixty percent are Jon tester style candidate lost twenty five percent to seventy five percents. But to be fair. Yeah. That wasn't just you're Bernie Sanders was in Lubbock, right? Your tester was in seven different counties. One of which was Lubbock county in that just a sliver. But the thing is is when you talk to the when you talk to the party faithful and party faithful are always the people who are going to be all the hold on. Let me just because what we're talking about his drew Landry right now. Okay. The tests candidate, right and everybody knows that that district is takes tech terrorists in it. Takes six rural counties to devastate. Right tech terraces in everybody knows anything about Lubbock. He might be listening. Suddenly tech terrorists. A lot of tech administration. A lot of tech professors much more nuanced area in just two. It's like a peace symbol. It comes down nineteenth university to Indiana intakes out like a peace symbol out on the south loop. And then takes in three counties to the west three counties to the east, right, but okay that for context go ahead to me if I'm. Lubbock county democrat. I'm not looking at sixty percent versus seventy seven because those districts are weighted in in a fashion that don't lead to the sumptious that might be being made. Well, I think that some people in Lubbock might look at this and say well are Bernie Sanders. Style candidates did so much better that where the party needs to go. I would argue that. Instead, we need to be looking at Beddoe and look at how Beto did statewide, and we need to be saying that here within the rural metropolis of of Lubbock we need to be fashioning a candidate that can win locally more in the style of a better Rourke, then perhaps a Bernie Sanders or Octavio always want call her Octavio detail because huge Houston Astros fan and Octavio doto tell with Astro. We'll see what whatever. I o c. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, but yeah, I would like to see us move in more of a of a moderate direction. I don't think there's any secret to that. But at the same time, I do see why there are people in within my party that are more of the far end on the left. You know, a lot of people have been getting left out in this economy and. And even then it just like, I'm literally rolling my fingers through my hair is say this. Yes, you're my head saying there are classical democratic issues public education agriculture. Yeah. Medical access to health care. Right. The classical that you could run on run on strongly unabashedly in leave the Cussing to the side leaves the flag kneeling to the side and gain a larger audience. I one hundred percent agree with that get anything else we need to get in with you how I mean. I could talk to you about politics for hours. But but no there's nothing you'd have to miss a couple of your commercial breaks or something we can with. So how often do you guys meet in? If people are interested in joining in with the Lubbock county democratic process how. How can they do? So well with any to do is they need to go to our website or you can find us on Facebook Lubbock Democratic Party on Facebook. And just messages, that's easiest way we meet quarterly, plus a few more meetings throughout the year. In fact, we've got a meeting next Tuesday at seven o'clock if anybody wants to show up it's over the Democratic Party headquarters is over behind target on the south loop useless there in the little office park. That's there. So just cross to the south from the science spectrum right right right directly behind the science spectrum and fifty s fifty yard line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, John Gibson. I appreciate you coming out and fill in some difficult questions. I wouldn't expect less from you. But I appreciate you doing that. Thanks for having me. I think that you're willing to talk about issues in ways that others aren't in. We appreciate your time going to get into a quick break here. About ninety seconds. Get back with you here on the other side of Texas close out the program tell you what's going on the rest of the week cliff Kingsbury gonna be head coach of the Zona. Cardinals was is happening get in with that and more as we roll along here on your other side. Yes. Agreeing though. Great conversation there with John Gibson Lubbock county Democratic Party. He is not a crazy, which is why he makes an appearance on the program and just hear the guy out in if you're about place above party in the wanna know what's going on John Gibson's. Good guy. Preciado him come in. And quite frankly, taking some fastballs. I appreciate him VM willing to do that in. If there are people within the Lubbock county Republican party dwindling and membership. I'm glad for them to come on as well. Help them glad to help them with their membership. I know that I know that the Lubbock county Republican parties like in full fledge moderating force, and maybe their pride isn't so bad that they can come on the program and have talk about why people all of a sudden they're talking about place in while. They're talking about fiber fuel in. And the food in just glad to have yawned because the old sticking points old talking points aren't working any longer the segment brought to you by Lubbock foul room, providing safe and secure documents storage to Lubbock and the surrounding area since nineteen ninety two for free and hassle free estimate. Give Lubbock foul room, a call Lubbock foul room dot com. Eight oh, six seven four four seven six six six today. Today, the Texas house names Dennis bond and new speaker on opening day this from the Texas Tribune. Gray fog descended on awesome Tuesday morning, but the scene inside the Texas capital was one of colorful festivities to Mark the first day of the eighty six biennial legislative session. Give props were there. Do this is Cassandra Pollick? Edger welcomers Walters. Excuse me. Alec Samuels ima Plata f- there at the texts Tribune amd, perhaps the heartiest celebration took place in the Texas house where lawmakers walked in hollered after the and unanimous election of state Representative despondent as speaker. Baden's election marks new era of leadership in the lower chamber for the first time in a decade, the Angleton Republican. In that's important Angleton. Because now the big state the big three are from the Houston proximity. The Lieutenant governor the governor and the speaker of the house Angleton Republican replaced. Former house speaker Joe Straus who announced in October two thousand seventeen they would not seek reelection. Strauss's San Antonio Republican was elected in two thousand nine held record tying five terms in the house is top seat. Five terms in tying. With mabul. We hear me pound Muhart. Pete laney. Whereas Strauss was known as a mild mannered leader Bonnin has developed more of a combatants reputation in the house. He seemed to lean into that perception in his remarks never seen the use in sugar coating things, I am a direct. I am direct in. I am problem-solver while makers praised his leadership ability in a series of speeches preceding, the vote state Representative Sephora Neha Thompson, a Houston democrat with forty five years of experience in the house juris standing ovation for her remarks enrich, she said Bonnin quote. As learned the ins and outs of the Texas house as well as anyone I've ever served. The new speaker pledge to keep the Texas legislature from getting quote caught up in things that don't lend to real results in quote, hashtag bathroom Bill. He named public school. Funding is his top priority. In addition to school safety, combating, human trafficking and reforming property tax collection. He went so far as to replace the drinking cups in the house members lounge with one's reading quote. School finance reform colon the time is now in quote, you'll be reminded that every day bond and said bonds election was hardly a surprise. He was announced here. He first announced he had the votes become the next leader of the lower chamber in November working behind the scenes to assemble the transition team into our staff to assume the speaker's office in closing remarks after asking for unity amongst house members. He gave a tearful tribute to his father recalling some advice from the elder Bonnin who passed away in two thousand seventeen let's be sure when we adjourn Sanni die. That's the last day of the legislature. We leave this house and the state better than we found it. There's a saying we have in Texas is Texas goes so goes the nation. Governor Greg Abbott praised him. And then there were other scenes in the Texas Senate, which were less important, shall I say in not of course, they were important but less newsworthy as what went on the Texas house. I wanna go on record in say, I'm rooting for Guinness Bonnin mall accounts rate, man, great leader. And may he give his members in that let in that branch on that floor the ability to vote their districts in may they both their districts ever, boldly, not for political favor, not four getting points on scorecards, but doing better made they to tag onto Dennis bond and leave their districts of better place in they found them may they do just that eight. Tomorrow on the program. We've got Ross Ramsey. He's going to cover all the scenes and sites from today. Also, our friend might bazaar. Did you know that they're putting Amazon Alexa and toilets now not into Elit, but toilets said are quipped with Alexa. This is one other nations hate us in. It's why we're so great. We're gonna get into that with Mike bazaar into the scenes and sites from today with our friend. Ross Ramsey going into Thursday and Friday medicinal marijuana discussion with Brandon Darby as well. As on Friday. We're gonna get into some rural populism if you've not seen just Google Tucker Carlson monologue, and you're going to hear him talk. Give critique of the establishment Rockefeller in Republicans with whom against whom I revolt daily on this program. And I thought that good monologue. Don't agree with all of it. But agree with a great bit of it. There from Tucker Carlson, and you can find it there as you Google it. We're going to be playing some sound clips from it coming up on Friday. But for now God to get home gonna get home. Great family above average dinner going to watch us some red raiders tonight in excited to do just that number eight taking on Oklahoma Braschi eight you listening to the program. 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Amanpour: Will Hurd, Isha Sesay and Richard Florida

"It's an edge of your seat. Thrill ride that will change overseas forever. The Movies Sundays Nine PM on C._N._N.. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses visits any today at Xeni Dot dot com slash C._N._N.. Hello everyone and welcome to on for his. What's coming up president trump lights dangerous fuse in a time of racial division telling Congress women of Color to go back home but why is his party staying mostly silent? We'll heard Republican. Congressman from Texas joins US then Oh five years since Boko Haram snot hundreds of Nigerian schoolgirls from their dorms journalist Aisha say with a new book about how this happened and why about half the goes remained captives plus seeing being the future of our cities are too is if you speak to Richard Florida editor at large of city lab welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christiane Amanpour in London today the trump administration is filing regulation that would make it much harder for migrants crossing the southern and border to claim asylum. It comes just after U._S.. Immigration and customs enforcement began raids targeting some two thousand undocumented migrants. It's a move the president had been telegraphing loudly only to be dramatically the overshadowed on Sunday when he himself used what many believe to be some of his most racist rhetoric yet tweeting that four democratic congresswoman of color should go back to the places they came from leaders abroad and at home. Um have condemned the message here in the U.. K. The British Prime Minister Theresa may call the comments completely unacceptable House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said make America great again has always been about making America white again again. Two four in question are Alexandria Akhazia Cortez. Yana Presley Ilhan Omar and Rashida to lead the only one not born in the United States was Omar who moved there when she was a twelve year old Somali refugee few gee. I spoke about all of this with Republican congressman will heard his Texas district abuts much of the southern border with Mexico so immigration policy also literally hits Home Congressman Heard Welcome back to the program. It's my pleasure. It's always it's always awesome beyond chatting with you. Well thanks congressman and I obviously want to start with the controversial nature of president trump's tweets people are calling it racist a firestorm. <hes> you know lighting a fuse. It's really hit a nerve even over this side of the Atlantic so just to remember what he said. He said they originally come from countries with governments are complete and total catastrophe. They should go back and help fix the totally broken crime infested places from which they come that is aimed at four freshman congress people. Nancy Pelosi is called xenophobic. How do you describe that? Do you call it xenophobic. Do you believe it's racist. I I think those tweets are racist and xenophobic. They're also inaccurate S- The four women he's referring to or actually citizens in the United States. Three of the four were were born here. It's also behavior. That's on becoming dean of the leader of the free world. You should be talking about things that unite us not divides us and also I think politically it doesn't help a while you had a civil war going on within the Democratic Party between the far left raft and the rest of the party now they have circle the wagons and are starting to protect one another. We can disagree without being disagreeable. I don't agree with many of the things that they're talking about and Nevada or proposals that they're putting forward but that's where the debate should be on not this not these other issues. I can. I ask you why you think the President keeps doing this kind of stuff making controversial comments on twitter and stoking certain flames I mean do you think the president is racist well. You'd have to ask him those questions but the comments were indeed racist. Look I'm the only black Republican in the House so representatives I go into communities that most Republicans don't show up in order to take a conservative message and when you have this being the debate that activity becomes even harder and the only way we're I'm from Texas and are we say if the Republican Party in Texas doesn't start looking like Texas there won't be a Republican Party in Texas and I think that goes for the rest of the country so this makes it harder in order to take our ideas and in our platform to communities that don't necessarily identify with the Republican Party so now let's talk about the other big issue and that is asylum and immigration and detention and zero tolerance policy and all of that so what about now the administration has petitioned to make formal. It's been talking about for a long time and that is almost no asylum in the United States except virus third-country sure that that proposal was announced announced this morning <hes> I do believe that our asylum laws should be tweet. I think this move is probably going to get a challenge in courts. This is something that I've said if we're going to tweak our asylum laws or Meyer asylum laws it needs could be done in Congress and we need unfortunately there are people that are taking advantage of our asylum laws. One of the other things that should stop happening is we should stop treating everybody. That's coming into this country illegally as if they're an asylum seeker and not everybody is actually asking for asylum and when the asylum laws are being abused this hurts the people that actually need asylum ause and when you look at our immigration courts I'm somewhere around. Eighteen percents of people are the ones is that ultimately when they go through the immigration system are they in immigration court system ultimately gets get granted asylum and so those are the folks that are being impacted. I do believe it's time for the House and the Senate in a bipartisan way to try to address some of these issues. I have some proposals out there but again I think this recent move is likely to get challenged in the courts so from what I hear you saying you don't support this new regulation Russian asylum laws is just one piece of the problem. The real long term issue here is violence lack of economic opportunity and extreme poverty in the northern triangle. That's El Salvador Guatemala Kayla and Honduras <hes> we should have a special representative for the northern triangle. That's a senior diplomat appointed by the secretary of state who should be working on coordinating the strategy across the U._S.. Government with those three countries but also work with the Organization of American States work with the International Development Bank of this crisis is not just a problem in the U._S.. And Mexico. It's a problem for the entire Western Hemisphere and we need to get the entire Western Hemisphere involved and I think that starts by creating an in essence a Marshall Plan for that region to address those causes that's where we should be putting time and effort and and the other piece is human smuggling in if you're coming through our southern border legally you've likely paid seven thousand thousand dollars to human smugglers and we're collecting information on phone numbers and data on those human smugglers but the U._S. intelligence community is not doing enough in order to counter that we should be dismantling the infrastructure that these human smugglers Mugla have put in and guess what they're making more money because they're bringing more people in and so we need to be addressing that and working with our allies and all those countries view that and I have a bipartisan piece of legislation that we're actually introducing today <hes> with Abigail Spangenberg Democrats Virginia to to say we should be prioritizing making counting human smuggling and human trafficking a national intelligence priority congressman. What about the ice raids? I mean I can see you pushing back on quite a few of these controversial issues that are coming out of the administration this huge drum roll to what we were going to told her to be mass deportations some people might have thought that was tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands thousands but maybe only and I put that an inverted commerce two thousand but it doesn't seem that that's happening first and foremost do you support the notion of is doing mass deportations so there are about nine hundred thousand people in the United States who have gone through their higher immigration hearing and have been ordered to be removed from the country by judge so ultimately the United States we should would we should be enforcing our laws but because we're dealing with this crisis right now at the border we should be having all of our resources on the border to deal with the current crisis. We don't have enough folks in is we don't have enough folks in Border Patrol. trope we don't have enough folks in H._H._S. and so we should probably prioritizing our resources to address current problem and I actually believe we should be getting to the point where last in first out of the people that that are more. We're recently trying to come into the country legal and should be deported. We should focus on them. I this is to have a long more of an impact in those countries where they're ultimately coming from and we also need more immigration judges <music>. I've tried to increase in. There's a there's also a nine hundred thousand a person backlog in our immigration courts and the average the average time it takes to get through these courts is over six hundred days. Am I tried. I do increase the number of immigration judges in a recent appropriations bill how we fund the government and my friends on the other side of the aisle voted down. We need more resources in in order to deal with the problem that we're seeing on our southern your congressman a lot of the issues and a lot of the questions I have raised I see you pushing back against what might be called current trump Republican orthodoxy and you do seem to be out of step with that sort of certain strain some of the Republican Party. I just want to ask you a couple of questions on this. You know there's a recent Texas monthly profile on you that said many conservatives have come to see you as guardian of the soul of the old patio the old soul of the party Joe Straus Republican former speaker of the Texas House said I think he's exhibit A.. In Texas for what the future of the Republican Party needs to be do you see yourself that way and what do you think think these old timers mean by that. What are they yearning for a while like I say I'm the I'm the face of the future Republican Party and in the future Republican Party? We're going to solve problems away. We've often solved all of them. In the past we should be empowering people a not empowering governments when you look at independence and conservative Democrats in the United States. They're concerned where the direction of the Democratic Party is going and our opportunity. The is to is to appeal to those folks and twenty twenty about a third of the electorate is going to be under the age of twenty nine when you go back to to to Ronald Reagan he won the under twenty nine vote by like thirty points. It's <hes> I think we can compete in these areas on. That's what I've demonstrated in a truly fifty fifty district might my district Hillary Clinton won by four points in two thousand sixteen and in the most recent election of that to award beat Senator Ted Cruise by five points yet. I continue to to survive in Lynn partly because you know I try to have a message that is reflective of where the majority of country is a criss crossing a district like mine. I'VE LEARNED WAY WAY MORE UNITES US than divides US and so I try to talk about those things and ultimately Rashawn I I spent nine and a half years as an undercover officer in the professional intelligence officer my entire adult life has been about collecting information and articulating that and so I'm gonNA use those skills and those things I've learned and try to solve problems not resort to political rhetoric and so that's how I've been able to perform and be successful well I mean and you have just laid out exactly the case that some people are making for you particularly your background based in facts and evidence and intelligence and then deciding on solutions and actions rather than just rhetoric but again I want to ask you because you do you stand out you are Republican. I guess I want to ask you first. All you yourself surprised at one. Some people might say is a bit of a moral failure or a little craven of so many Republicans who simply have not stood up and said anything about President Trump's what you've just called racist tweets well. It's concerning to me that there are people that think that's okay. That kind of behavior is okay. <hes> I've learned that you know my dad always taught me when I was young. The one person can't fool is the person you're looking at in the mirror in the morning <hes> so be honest a treat people with respect and say what you mean and that's how I've always I've always pursued thing and then also trying to articulate alternatives initiatives so mine goal is to be an example and ultimately. I think that's what I'm trying to do but you gotTa have to ask some of those other folks but it is something that we should look at is why in twenty nineteen and do we think it's okay to say some of these things you know. This is one of the things I learned go into you know go into to Church on Sundays and no I don't care which faith you believe in <hes> there's some you know story to this point and when when Jesus was asked what is the most important commandment he said the love thy Lord Guy with all your heart mind and so but he said equally as important. It's a love your neighbor like yourself and I think we need to we need you remember a more of that and I think it would be better off. Let us get back to this truly appalling situation at the border. We've had you know people from within the system are reacting against some of the more draconian measures undertaken taken by this White House whether zero tolerance whether it's all sorts of issues the sensors and all the rest of it and now of course it's about the children who've been put into you know unconscionable conditions in the united the states of America including in your state this was in Clint of course and we have had vice president pence visiting recently and seeing some of these literal cages which overstuffed with people. There's a little bit of the Pool Report says the stench was horrendous. The cages were so crowded that it would have been impossible for all of the men to lie on the concrete. When the men saw the press arrived? They began shouting. They'd been there forty days or longer. The men said they were hungry wanted to brush their teeth. Sweltering Hot Asians regarding cages wearing face masks. Mike Pence said he wasn't surprised it shows that the system is overwhelmed. I mean you know yeah it is but isn't that cruel and unusual punishment for these people well. I was just talking about Clint Clinton my district. This is a facility that I've been into in border. Patrol has been saying this has been a problem since back in two thousand fourteen gene this issue of the unaccompanied children these are children of coming to the United States without a family member. This has been a problem since twenty fourteen and so so border patrols and saying that you've had the Department Department of Homeland Security Inspector General Issue Report back in May talking about current facilities and then you had an issue as a follow on report on July third and so these facilities were not designed for how they're being used clint for. I specifically was designed to temporarily house one hundred seven people at its height. It had seven hundred children under the age of eighteen in that facility. They can't handle that is needs more resources H._H._S.. Eight <hes> health and Human Services is federal government entity. That's responsible for caring for children. They need more resources so many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle one vote against giving resources to these entities they wanNA vote against increasing immigration judges and then they show up to a facility that they are all saying is not designed for this and want to be outraged. That's the problem. We got to solve this issue. I'm H._H._S. has new facilities taking care of unaccompanied the children and right now they're getting when they received them to when they get placed. It's about forty five days. That's a decreased from. I think it was ninety a number of months ago. These are facilities that I'm just came online others one in my district that has about two hundred on children. I've sent my staff down there to inspect it once. It became online to make sure the kids are being cared and fed properly but this is a symptom of a much larger problem and that larger problem we already talked about what is the root causes in those countries asylum laws being abused a human smugglers increasing their their activity. Those are the things that we should be addressing a rather than having using images as political legends against this Justin images real problems. This isn't just an image. This is an actual fact and reality who are later I've been but I mean the children then let's talk about the children congressman. It was a lawyer a whistle blower. She decided decided to go to the public because it was untenable. I just want to know whether you think that that is cruel for those children and that this administration has exacerbated this situation is all very well saying that the centers aunt designed to house is this number of people but you know this is what happens when you separate children from their parents and don't let them go to that to that carries who already in the United States right so so I've been cleared family separation we're conflating several issues family only separation and I've been very clear you should never rip children out of their their family members arms that was a terrible policy. It was policy that many people stood up and was against but but you have an unaccompanied any children a problem which is different these are kids that are coming here and they're not with a family member and trying to get them place with someone who is actually a family member and not going to take advantage of them if they placed that's the current situation and. A place like clamp and yes nobody should be in these facilities for any length of time. Let alone children and these are things that shouldn't be happening and we end the only way you're going to solve this problem. Is We have to make sure that the folks within the federal government have the resources to deal with the current problem and that we're addressing the root causes and not exacerbating a don't treat everybody as if they're at asylum-seeker that's increasing the amount of people that are having to be in our custody deal with these root causes. This is how we're going to get through the current problem. We're seeing a dip and people coming here illegally in May just because usually in the summer are you see a dip receiving our allies in Mexico having to deal with this issue as well. They're taking separate KRISTAPS. How long that can continue these are the questions and then also we need the rest of the Western Hemisphere to get involved in trying to deal with this problem and a huge problem? It is Congressman Bill. Thank you very much for joining me always a pleasure to be on so from that really appalling situation with children are the southern border we now turn to a story about children. There's been buried by the relentless pace of U._S.. Political stories five years ago not many people would have known what or where Eh Chebet was a small town in northeastern Nigeria it was catapulted to global infamy in two thousand fourteen by a disaster and a Hashtag. Here is a reminder of what happened. I covered from head to toe. Dozens of mostly Christian. Girls were forced to chance from the Koran. This was the first glimpse of kidnapped shoebox schoolgirls after two hundred seventy eighty six was snatched from their school dormitory by Nigeria's Islamist group Boko Haram that loosely translates as Western education is forbidden fifty seven of the girls managed to escape in the hours that followed the rest remained in captives of the gunman under the Hash tied bring back our girls that plight spread like wildfire on social media from Malala Yousafzai to then first lady Michelle Obama Obama who said she saw her own daughters in these girls two years later a red glimmer of hope for some of the families as C._N._N.. Obtained an exclusive proof of life video showing fifteen of the girls it took who two years to get just twenty one of them released after negotiations between the government and Boko Haram. I should say was there for C._N._N.. When they reunited with their families in Shibam but for so many parents herons there was still only heartbreak the piercing screams of mothers realizing that indeed they are not to be reunited with the users on this day which is ten what should have been an overwhelmingly people went into pisses sweet one more than five years on one hundred seven girls have made it out of captivity one hundred twelve still missing and as the campaign to free them fades with time endless grief for so many the families now journalist? I should say who you saw in that report has just written a book on the girls is called beneath the Tamarind tree and it follows her time covering the story as it hit global headlines and it's unprecedented access. She's had to some of the kidnapped girls and I should is joining me now from New York. Welcome to the program. Thank you Christiane so I just from the from pick up where we left you in that little report their Eh you know time is moving on lots of parents have been deeply disappointed still in grief and suffering. Do you see any possibility that this is going to be resolved. All we really no hostage to time. Racing the urgency. I think to some degree we are hostage to time raising the urgency and Nigerian government that is beset with a multitude of problems not only are they battling Ling Boko Haram which one faction is now aligned with Isis and continuing to terrorize Nigeria Chad Niger and Cameroon but also that the other issues such as kidnappings that have basically proliferated across Austin north west of the country issues to the cattle herders and farmers in the middle belt and the Niger Delta so the Nigerian government has a number of issues on its plate but there's also just an issue political will here Christiane in the sense that as you well know from covering this at Ah at the time that these goals come from poor families from the North out of the way uneducated and they just on scene as a priority to this government and as far as they're concerned they've done what they can to bring <hes> a hundred and three of the Gulf back the four others escaped and for the rest. I think there's kind of shrugging of shoulders was denounced me perfectly honest so let me ask you then about the girls because the book I'm going to ask you why you called it beneath the Tamarind tree but <hes> the girls it was very rare to see girls abducted by these Islamist groups and it's I found it very interesting that you call this having talked to a lot of them a crime of opportunity absolutely I think that's one of the the biggest misunderstandings about what happened because from the research I've done in speaking to the girls when the men arrived in the school that night they set up on the goals with the host of questions about brickmaking machine about feel they about food and where that whis kept and when it came to actually move them when they said actually leave the school compound and let's step out because they were burning the buildings there was a conversation that a number of the goals told me about and the conversation was essentially should we take them or should we put them in the burning rooms and kill them so there was an actual debate so they didn't come with pre pre organized plan if you will bill to take them and that's something I never knew until I did the research for this book and I hadn't known that either and I I find that really really interesting and just to go back to the slogan Boko Haram Western education is is prohibited is forbidden is unclean. That's the basic concept I mean it sort of circles back to your connection and your interest in this because you spend a lot of your youth in Freetown Sierra Leone your mother is from there and education education was a massively important vehicle for her and for you not to end up poor and potentially subject to this kind of captivity absolutely inner and I say that to people who continue to ask that question. Why is the story so important to you? Why does it seem so personal too because I say but for the lottery of life but for the fact that I was born to educated parents? My mother was born to poor Muslim parents. My grandfather was a religious it just manny had multiple wives. He was on educated. My Grandmother was on educated. She sold goods in the local market in the town which was very similar to cheat OC poor <hes> no no plumbing no power in most of the houses this but my mother despite not having you know examples of educated people in her family went on to be very educated have a patient English language linguistics and to run for vice president in Sierra Leone because of her accomplishments moments. I have the life I have and I understand that the goals in Chibuto will on the same path. My mother walks a path of becoming educated and transforming their lives their parents and potentially their children's lives so this really hits home for me and it's very clear because as I say the strongest passages are when you talk to them and you listen to them and of course the parents as well and the families as well. There's just want to read a piece a little a little piece of what you wrote wrote about your mom and and circling back to these girls everything in Sierra Leone's Patriarchal Society Directs Women and girls to be quiet docile and subservient to men but with Cadi as my bul those norms never infiltrated my childhood so card is your mother and I wonder whether when you're talking to these girls did you get a sense that that patriarchal direction of subservience affected them when they were kidnapped apt or or do they have more of a fighting spirit. Do they resist what what what. What did they think when these guys kidnap them you know that it's really interesting because on the one hand yes they are children from the northeast see so there are a product of that Patriarchal Conservative society so even when you meet them now if there is an elderly male in the vicinity or speaking to them as soon as they meet they kind of cut see they dip the has is a sign of respect? They do keep that. Is You know down to the ground they do still have some of those traits but for all of that when they were in captivity Christiane what is remarkable were the acts of defiance and the way they pushed back back in the moments that they found this untapped bravery if you will to say when can we go home. You said we would be able to go home and you're holding us. Why are you holding us? Refusing to bathe became a kind of personal act of disobedience keeping journal some of them were able to do that some snuck away with bibles and continue to practice their Christian faith even though they will warn that if they were caught that could lead to horrible consequences it. It is remarkable that in the midst of that culture of subservience they still held onto to their strength. They still held onto each other and you know they didn't just capitulate and that again truly truly surprised me and hasn't been told as part of their narrative. I still find it extraordinary. I mean obviously we're focusing on those who still captive but as you said I think you said one hundred and three how many how many actually escaped so the Nigerian government so there are hundreds and seven girls who are out now the Nigerian government negotiators released for one hundred three of them four of those goals escaped on there must have been really difficult. I mean what did they tell you about actually having the guts to get up and run away now for the book Einon speak to goals who escaped off the being in captivity I spoke to who escaped in the hours after the abduction and so for those goals one of whom jumped off the truck as it entered the forest forest and another girl who ran away when they stopped for their first rest break you know it was incredibly terrifying for them and one of the things they kept saying was even though they knew there was a chance that they may die that if they were discovered covered if the captors caught up with them they would be shot and killed. They decided that they would rather make a break for home tried to escape and at least give their families a chance of finding their dead bodies then potentially being held captive and their families never finding them and again I I think one of the reasons I won't is right. This book is because there is a kind of normalizing of tragedy and pain from the African continent and so for the abduction of these goals Dell's as much as people were shocked. There's also a kind of well it happens in Africa. Lots of bad things happen in Africa and I want people to understand the bond between these these young people and their parents I wanted them to understand the loss the grief and when you speak to the goals they so vividly tell you about the anguish they felt at being taken from their parents and why some of them chose to Ron. Tell me about the title in the Tamarind Tree in the title so beneath the Tamarind tree and this again is is indicative of the process of getting them to open up to me. I spent many many months while over year doing research and going back and forth to Nigeria and speaking to the girls and it wasn't until twenty eighteen having already started the research for this book basically fully and consistently at the beginning of twenty seventeen it wasn't until twenty eighteen that they opened up and told me about the moment they arrived in the forest in some visa at the book or Haram Cam and they were they were told to get out of the vehicles and to go under a tree and I remember thinking what would you mean go under that tree I several times and they said there was this giant Gargantuan tree that was so overgrown with leaves and fruit and bowed almost it created something of a hoop skirt because the branches hit the ground and they were told to part the branches and go under the tree so they'll basically hidden beneath the tamarind trim any surveillance or any military operation to try to get them. Thanks let me ask you about one of the MOMS Esta you you focused on now. She had a particularly tragic situation because we have a video her girl at least in this propaganda video said that she had converted to Islam and she wasn't coming home. What kind of a tortuous sort of emotions did you encounter with with the parents interviewing ESTA and every time I speak to Esta it is it leaves me so incredibly pained because even speaking about it now because high level of anguish and what it has done to her family is just so so difficult to bear witness to Dhaka's had daughter here that we see in amongst these goals <hes> <hes> she was the youngest of the goal is to be taken? She was fifteen about two ten sixteen and she will shortly turn twenty one and you know for Esther as a again. One of the things I do in this book is trying to tell the stories of these goals as as gulls as their favourite possessions and that the habits and hobbies and Ducasse was very prim and proper child to cause no trouble and was really just the focal point of the family she she was going to go on and get a degree. Her mother played all our hopes and her child going off to university only for her to be snatched by Boko Haram and the families just broken she she can't sleep she can barely each developed an ulcer. She has high blood pressure and they're just utterly distraught seeing that video with her daughter saying again one doesn't know whether she said it freely but it's a propaganda video regardless hearing her say she doesn't want to come back that effectively. She's with believers doesn't want to come back to to nonbelievers broker heart. You know it'd be hard but I- message to a couple of days ago about the book and I said You know my hope is that this will recharge the conversation about the missing girls and she said God will make away one day for my child to come back well. That's faith. Isn't it and I should've thank you so much for reminding everybody that so many of these girls still remain in captivity of course we say that it's important to remember the story story is far from over five years on one hundred twelve girls on missing still and their parents as you just heard from Isha Sesay Suffo- endless hot break guys are terrible taking care of their health. Whether it's a knee injury bad back or something worse guys usually more comfortable rub some dirt on it than seeing a doctor. I'm guilty of it myself. The same is true for erectile dysfunction studies show seventy percent of guys who experienced he don't get treated for it. Thankfully Roman created an easy way to chat with a doctor online with Roman. 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He's a professor and also an author and he says America's biggest divide is not red versus blue but rather city versus suburbia arguing that where we call home is one of the most crucial factors affecting affecting where we sit in the social ecosystem he joined Walter Isaacson to math out the state of urban hubs today from income inequality too big tech your great urban studies studies scholar and you helped invent the notion of the creative class and how that was going to revitalize American cities explain what that original notion was so here's here's where it comes from. I I was born in Newark in late nineteen fifties. I watched Newark decline and decay so the city jobs in industry move to the suburbs. I actually witnessed the national guards tanks in the street. When I was a young scholar? No one believed that cities could come back so flash forward now. It's the late nineteen in eight thousand nine Hundred Ninety S. I'm living in Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh. Was it hard by deindustrialization what could begin to revive cities. What I began to see was in places like New York in San Francisco at a time in Boston? There was this group of people scientists technologists knowledged startup people artists musicians professor types who are coming back to CDs. I couldn't explain it. That's where the idea of the creative class comes from when we put the numbers to it about the year two thousand what we found is this group of people which was less than ten percent of the workforce when I was a boy grew to a third of the workforce and in big cities these scientists techies business managers knowledge workers and artists were now thirty three forty forty five percent of the workforce so that is the creative class and it is the force like it or not for good in bed that has revitalized many of our cities and because they moved into the urban core more than they would go to the suburbs. I think what happened really is that I wrote this book in two thousand and two so it's quite a ways time ago after about two thousand this. It's urban revival just goes on steroids and these folks begin to clustering cities not just because they like cities not because they just have parks in amenities and universities and coffeeshops what the economists have found is the city's they're clustering and cities uh-huh drives economic growth increase innovation and productivity but they don't clustering all cities now they had gone into many cities but they tend to cluster in these superstar cities like New York or Los Angeles or London in the U._K.. Or these big tech hubs like San Francisco or Seattle Adler Boston or maybe Washington D._C.. Got To push back from people like Joel Kotkin who said okay. It's a great theory but the numbers don't show the data thought that people actually are moving to suburbs not cities. What was your answer that it's funny because Joel has become come believe it or not a great personal friend and we have had some of the most vicious fights but I told him I literally said Joe? I've learned about as much from you as I've learned from anyone else. Look the creative class can thrive in suburbs and we did the data later we started with Metros right these suburban urban agglomerations when you look at the data there are some suburbs you know even in the outskirts of Detroit suburbs Royal Haute and Birmingham that have very high clusters of the creative class. I don't think it's an either or it's both but here's the point it's not ah everywhere in certain suburbs in certain cities. It's a certain big cities. It's uncertain small cities and it's where those places have the attributes that can engage this clustering. You began to see after the rise of the creative class came <music> out some of the downside of the sorting in America. So what did you do so me and a guy named bill. Bishop actually worked together he wrote this fantastic book called the big sorts. We were intended and explain what that is about. The big. You're watching is the idea that in America this is way before trump that we were becoming more divided not only red and blue we were sorting into specific kinds of communities that engaged US economically but reflected our political and cultural bias and that those divisions have now we were talking about this in two thousand and two. We're expanding over time and I think neither one of us. Certainly I could never have anticipated how big this would go. So what happened was when you mentioned I took some great criticism as you do. When you write a popular book people read it and it criticizing I learned from that but the world changed the world that I was envisioning of optimistic rosy eyed revitalization coming back to the city in in an open minded environment became very one-sided rich people highly educated people move back to cities and parts of cities? Not all cities became gentrified colonies in our cities began to split apart these happened on steroids beginning in two thousand accelerating accelerating after two thousand and ten the reason I came to this as I was living in Toronto where I still spend a good part of my time and it's Crazy Crack Mayor Rob Ford got elected and I was thinking in Toronto Toronto the Good Toronto the place that has a healthcare for all that has invested in transit at least up to that point that had safe streets no gun very little gun crime. Why would they elect this populace before trump because the creative class my creative class was colonizing the inner city <hes> taking advantage of the great locations close to the university close to downtown making money off their housing as it went up and the working people and the people worked in those low and service industries were being pushed out and our community just like our country just like America was becoming more and more divided that that's what I see as the contradiction of the creative class lead to a greater inequality of wealth that became part of the resentment we actually documented this in two thousand and two in two thousand three for for essays? I wrote for at that time the Washington monthly you could see these creative cores in San Francisco in Austin and Seattle in Boston and New York inequality was the greatest in the nation but when I came to write about this in the sequel book the New Urban Crisis What I found was this contradiction the more diverse the more dense the more innovative the more open minded the more liberal and progressive more votes for Obama more roads or Clinton whatever the more inequality segregation and that contradiction was what I wanted to fly because of the big sort because of the sorting of spy economic status by class position by level of education where becoming a very sorted country in which the advantage folks cluster they can be urban and there's still many many advantage folks in the suburbs of New York in the suburbs of California in the suburbs around Boston we can sort into urban centers in suburbs but the places we sort into become so darn expensive you know look at housing prices in New York or San San Francisco or Los Angeles that less advantaged people lower skilled people working people are pushed out so tell me about the book then that you tried to explain that problem well walking back of your earlier book. I don't I don't think get so much of a walking back is recognizing things have changed recognizing some mistakes that I made and really trying to interpret the world as it evolved and you here's what it was. It's kind of track the ARC in my life the kid born into the older crisis in Newark in New York City for declaring the city drop dead. You're in bankruptcy go away and a crisis of failure. A crisis of complete and total urban failure accompanies moving out people moving out a whole they called it in urban studies hole in the doughnut mhm then to see this revitalization com slowly at first and then the floodgates open after two thousand but the new urban crisis isn't a crisis of failure ironically enough its Chrysler of urban success. It's a crisis of urban success. The more these cities attracted attracted talent the more they had attracted the creative class the more they gentrified the more unequal they became with other parts of the country and within themselves so and what I argued in the book is the Norman Crisis Isn't just a crisis of cities when you see it play out on the electoral map in the divisions of this country which you know so much about it's kind of a crisis of our moment of democratic capitalism it really is how do we put these two parts of our economy the creative centers and the rest of the country back together Kennewick so what should we do about gentrification well. I think look there's a couple of things that people are policymakers and academics and thinkers are talking about. I there is no doubt that we need to build more housing where we need it. Not Out the far-flung excerpts we need to build more housing in the core and in those old suburbs which have the single family homes that can be identified to do that. We've got to liberalize our land use restrictions number one. Some people so called market urban is as to why Meyer a lot think that's sufficient. I think it's necessary but insufficient. I think we've got to commit to building affordable housing in New York. Now we have a program in this city where if you're going to build a new tower I forget the exact fraction but it's between twenty and thirty percent of those units you can't buy out in that new tower that new luxury tower have to be devoted to affordable housing. We have to build more transit to connect people out in those suburban areas and especially those close in suburbs and densify around the clubs and I think the last thing we need to do which which few people are talking about Walter about a third of us now in America have the great good fortune to be members of the creative class. We make a pretty good amount of money. Even the artists and cultural workers never mind the scientists and techies more than half of Americans work in low-wage edge crappy precarious service jobs condemned to a life almost disadvantage almost poverty when we decided to build the middle class in this country. We made manufacturing work good work. My Dad used to tell me he worked in a factory. He started that job in the depression Russian when it came back from World War Two F._D._R.. The new deal his job became a good family supporting job. You could buy a house in the suburbs. Put My brother and I through college. Service workers can't do that today. They are working with Karl. Marx was back to life. You would say they're working in misery did substance conditions. We need a national effort to upgrade the fifty percent of low wage service jobs in food service preparation retail work office work better the backbone of our economy but if people are thinking further and further into poverty. Do you think in some ways capitalism capitalism is broken when it comes to a market economy and said he's like that well in my field my field we have a long tradition of Marxist postmarks analysis and a lot of critics come from that hard night they want to invasion. I and I learned from these people particularly guiding David Harvey Who's absolutely brilliant but there's a hope for a kind of socialist utopia that doesn't come so pragmatically. Yes capitalism is broken. What do I believe? I think we have to go about fixing thing it. How do I think we can fix it if we could just empower our CDs to begin to address these problems and why I think it works is because C._D.'s are engaged suburbs? No matter how gentrified New York or San Francisco become they're still poor people there are ethnic and racial minorities. They're still progressive political actors who act on politics so I do think our cities are going to be the place. They're going to be the laboratories of democracy that figure out a way to create a new social compact that can make this kind of capitalism work. I I shudder. I think what the alternative might be but if we empower cities would that leave. Some people like the people who live in suburbs are exurbs or the countryside leave them out. I think it might leave people in the reddest parts of the country out but but here's the way I figure it and I've I've talked to the leading theorist of this about this both on the left and the right look. We don't agree on many things in this country. We don't agree on gun rights. We don't agree on women's rights. We don't agree on gay rights. I could go down the litany and already state state. Preemption is taking a lot of those rights away. Explain what that is well states you know across this country are are saying because they're run by rural and suburban my jar Majo- majorities. We're going to prohibit you from acting to control guns bill peduto. The mayor of Pittsburgh who's a good friend of mine has several pending civil suits and maybe a criminal case and give them the Pennsylvania state government that says he's acting too quickly on gun control gay rights or another one minimum wage minimum wage is another one although we've seen more red states interestingly enough at least be able to raise their minimum wage somewhat so I think this is happening. What what the best theorist of the so called federalism you know the United States is a federal system where we can adjust the relationship between the federal? The state and local governments say yes Walter. That's a risk in the short run yes Richard. That's what brisk in the short overtime though these states and cities have to compete so what's happening in Georgia now under the threat of these new women's rights bands and gay rights man the Hollywood companies are saying we're GONNA have to pull the films that are being made in Atlanta. We're GONNA have to bring them back to a city that doesn't impose that so the theorists say this competition for economic growth what the same thing I see when I go to Texas the business people are saying to the governor stop it. We can't attract Amazon H._Q.. Too if you keep up this kind of red state looniness in terms of social policy so the theorists believe that this competition between jurisdictions may lead to some places running to the bottom in the short term but over the competition will lead to better outcomes when you look at the big sort that you and bill bishop talked about one of them is the cities that have become enclaves of creative people and then the area's just around him you look at Austin Texas going ninety percent Democrat and same with Houston but right around ninety percent for trump a we dividing our country based on the new urban elite versus the rest of America. Yes it needs divides or fractional big word big word FRAC. Don't they occur at every scale they occur between the coastal elite places like New York Boston Washington Card in the southern and Northern California Los Angeles San Francisco and Seattle but then even within those places those divides replicate. I mentioned Toronto earlier Toronto's a very progressive place. It's a very blue place but even within that there's red and blue liberal-conservative away I like to think about it is the knowledge economy. Creative economy is very spiky. Tom Friedman had a wonderful book. That said the world is flat for for many things manufacturing simple services. The world has flattened completely but within that flat world that Tom explained so brilliantly there are these spikes in what happens is these spikes take on a different character a different economic character a different political. Oh character in a different cultural character and the backlash is not so much about the economic inequity. It's about the cultural norms and values. If you live in an urban center you tend to not want to have guns around you. You want safety. You want to be open minded to all those people who are contributing to your economy. You want to be pro immigration and for women's rights because women make up by believe it or not more than half the creative classes made up of women just like more than half our economy. Oh we'll population made up of one but to create a class as much greater numbers of women than say the working the working class but if you live in one of those places in the outlying areas and you're white middle aged man you feel threatened you feel threatened by diversity you feel threatened by women you feel threatened by the fact that women and immigrants have gotten in your view a leg up you feel threatened by the sexual and gender revolution and creates that backlash backlash is not just between parts of the country. Yes it's between parts of the country but it's with in parts of the country as well so in other words between counties and parishes or something where you have people are very comfortable diversity very comfortable comfortable and creative a knowledge economy and people who may feel that they're being down upon by the elites and so we have a divide in this country but it's not the old people get mistaken. It's not the old north-south more south divide. It's not a frost belt sunbelt. It's not an East West. It's a new kind of divide. It's very spiky. Big Word Very Fratto very concentrated but I think we're about evenly split. There's about half of us that are populating one and that takes the creative class and some of the new immigrant groups and about half the country populating another and sometimes we live quite close my here's an interesting fact though there's a brand new study out that I found so amazing in it heartened me for a moment in time others. There's viewers may think are dark. This was a group of political scientists to know a ton about the big sort that we've been talking about and who studied the sorting of Americans not just Americans they looked at the most sorted of US highly active Liberals Rosen highly active conservatives on national issues which we've talked about gun control social issues women's rights abortion. We are worlds apart when they pulled those same people on local issues. Do you want your economy to grow. Oh do you want good schools and they went down to a I'm giving big almost complete consensus and that gave me hope that when we're closer together and focused on our local communities and get out of this chamber this Echo Chamber of national issues. We're focused on hometown. You know Mike Bloomberg used to say you couldn't tell if the mayor's you what was it there's no liberal or conservative Republican or Democratic Way to pave the street or did you pardon yeah thank you Walter Sudden no party and I think that really is the case you know I right when I meet mayors and I work with laudanum. It's very hard for me to tell and it's very hard for me to tell who's a republican or a Democrat so I think that when we look at the local issues and get out of the Echo Chamber of national issues these these these high potency nationally shy take where a lot better solve our problems and so what policies would you do to try to knit the fabric closer together so I don't think we can I think we're really divided and I think divides gotten worse over my way you know and I'm sixty ish years old. I we're going to have have to realize that we are best served by living together is to America's and the way to reduce this. I think trump proves how problematic the imperial presidency. We knew it people like you and I knew it but until you had someone who really wasn't up for the job you couldn't see see it now. You can see how problematic that institution so what we do is take our federalist gift this distribution of powers that we've dialed up right over the past fifty years since the dialed up the power the federal government and we begin to dial it down. No we don't give all power back to the communities and I don't mean just the cities we power back to the suburbs in rural areas we give them their tax power back. We give them their economic power back. We enable them to build their own and we enable them to create the kind of cultural context you know look here's a statistic mystic about twenty percent of us live in urban areas. I forget what it is. Sixty seventy percent of US live in suburban areas and the rest live in rural areas the overwhelming preponderance like where we live we vote with our feet in America vote. That's the big sort is we vote with our feet to be the kind of places that reflect the cultural and social political context. We Wanna live in so let's not avoid that let's not spend every four eight years screaming and yelling at one another. Let's admit that we are two or more countries and let's live together peacefully. Let's create united. Maybe not an united CDs OF AMERICA UNITED COMMUNITIES OF AMERICA UNITED PLACES OF AMERICA. It will be perfect but it'll be a lot more riposted resilient because we're much more successful when we district powered any kind of system than when we concentrated and I think if we reduced a stake around these national issues we'd have a somewhat better chance of being able to get along Florida. Thank you thank you great to spend time with you and and hope does spring eternal. 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Part 3: Steve Haskin, Seth Merrow

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1:01:04 hr | 5 months ago

Part 3: Steve Haskin, Seth Merrow

"Steve Haskins is joining us. Another -nother Wednesday visit for Haskins. And so because it's a little bit You know unusual to have Steve on a Wednesday. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA reach into the the mystery category for a conversation Steve. And you may know what's coming if you're listening to me and said but if you weren't you don't where did that come from it. Just sorta happened it. It was part of a pedigree conversation and I said you know what I'm bringing this up with asking he. I'm sure he doesn't have anything in particular that you know. The Arkansas Derby draws Sunday will next week will handicap Arkansas Derby. But I figured you didn't have anything really in mind so I've got something for you that I know you're gonNA love. What would you like to know key to them in Kita dement one of my Well as a senator Grafstein he obviously was one of my one of my favorites and a half brother to Fort Marci was. He was one of my favorites other than they beat. Damascus A- every any other day. He was one of my favorites favorites. That wasn't one of my favorites when he ran against. Dr Saghir. Renew your win. But he just kept he just kept running and running Thing is is that in Fort March four months winds up being a champion three years apart he just kept running and just kept getting better and better and he was strictly aggress horse but they were really high on him. In from the start in fact I just recently wrote a column about About the nineteen seventy-one showdown between re Re ballot sexist between. We've orgin number two CA and number two count and he was He was in he was in the race and you don't people people realized that he had a heck of a rivalry with Ridge. It was a strange rivalry because a lot of times one would run one would win and the other wouldn't run well so they didn't run one to allied on occasion but they did run against each other ten times and River rigidly one six out of the Out of the ten. But you know I went to I. I remember going to the track to Ecuador to see to keep them in in his career debut. 'cause I was really looking forward to him. And you know. These are the days when we used to go down to The Rookie Barn at Belmont and visit with my k. Who was Elliott Burch Assistant? And you know you know when you know arts and letters and then it was created in Fort. Marcy had some guests had so many good horses back then I was really looking forward to his His debut and he was really bad. He was odds on in the race. And I you know everybody knew all about him and he got in outraged by Riva Ridge. Who WAS COMING OFF? An atrocious career debut but he was thinking about leverage is that he was very timid. Voice didn't like to be around horses and he got bumped at the start and he just chucked it he just he just didn't run a lick so they made keeping them into the you know the heavy favorite race And two of them when you know when hadn't had most of the way and and we've reached wound up Drawing away and beating him nobody knew what the time how good leverage. What's but the thing about kidding? Double completely different. Yeah we've Ridge was sort of a more of a Gazelle like skinny type of Horse Very Plain Looking. Lapierre's keeping them in with an absolute classic course she was like Richard Stone Reeves painting absolutely absolutely gorgeous gorgeous and hells himself really Wrigley had had a Lotta class and he just you know he said once in a while he you know he would disappoint like I in the preakness. Even though he finished ahead originally was third I remember there was another race where he ran against When he was a two year old and allowance race he actually ran against BBB Yup and he finished third to him and be and they finished exact same order they would finish next year in the preakness He got he got good later in the year. One He actually you know he wanted allowance race and he wanted to be a garden state. Prep that garden state always had preparation in the race. It was just allowance race but It was they had to go genius. Prep and it had a garden state. Prep and he you know he wants. He warned that which put him in the garden state. But that was the time where you know it was all about Riva Ridge. Georgia's numbers Capt. We've originally established at that. Point is by far and away the best two year old and number two camp was absolute super horse puppies and is good at T. Rowe campaign is any Philly I've ever seen and You know catered him in he ran. Okay I mean he ran. He ran a decent third number to count really should never run away. She run a week before he wanted me. Guardian and they ran back in a week. Which was ludicrous. And we've Ridge one You know won fairly easily. But leverage came back and he wanted to ramps and and then I remember as a as a three-year-old took him a little while to get going. But you know he. He wasn't ready for the Derby because he just wanted to derby trial And anyone Then anyone allowance race the again it was a pregnancy always had to prep the week before the preakness prep which was just an allowance. Waste but Remember Gula had running. Bozo had won it and came back a week later and won the preakness But then it preaches came up sloppy that year and of course we rich couldn't handle it and BBB wound up just going through the front and and stealing it. But I remembered man I remember going to the track to see Just keeping them in the wizards and he ran a tremendous race and in their speed. They beat icecapades Everybody Remembers ICECAPADES. Snap flu brilliant course And then he and then again disappointed in the Belmont. He didn't run well in the Belmont. We've reached went one one that result by himself but then they Then he got really good. I mean he really really develop late in the year and he started L. E. Purchase. Never you know never one to shy away from running free worlds against all the horses he random in the Brooklyn Handicap. Any wound up And he was he was a pretty good price. Remember what he was but he was a pretty good price And any wound up for. He wanted to winning that race. Y- beat some really nice horses and in a big field and then he brought up to Saratoga. They ran against older horses again in the Whitney and he won. That one is going to lead. And I'm I'm trying to think you'd be them. Some of allowed was in that race. It was third pursue. Next he'd be tunics. Jerkin source me. If he had beaten autobiography and West Coast Scout in the in the Brooklyn. Autobiography would come back later in the year and absolutely trounced him and we rich in Jackie Cocoa Cup When it was when he was running two miles but then we came back and won the travers. So I mean to win the Brooklyn to Whitney and the travers. So you know as good as Riva. Richard had been winning to lecture the Triple Crown You know Richard that point had been basically ruined by Bloomberg Penny tweeting. 'cause after he won the Belmont stakes. The three weeks later was in California in back then it was very send a East to California is the Hollywood Derby and and he had to carry one hundred twenty. Nine pounds had run his guts out in that race to win by neck over some pretty good footing bicker and another horse called. Finally that he's just all out to win by giving away like fifteen twenty pounds to some of these horses And he and he really was. He was never the same that race. Just absolutely gutted him so many at running monmouth. Indicate the tasting after that supposedly. He was drafted in that race. Depending tweety suspected and everybody suspected it and actually ran You Know Ram blood tests on and it came. It came back with With with a tranquilizer but it was it was it was after the race and the traces were so minute that they they really couldn't do anything about it and then nobody took any action. But you know we just random very very dull race there but anyway that said up That set up the battle for the championship in the woodwork. Which was a mile and a half back then and And Birch like. I said he always did strange. Things going some guests who was his big Three phillies that year He summer guests in the Woodward. And we've ridge just once again didn't didn't run race and And keep it wound up winning any beat summer. Guests was wound up being disqualified so then they had one final battle in the Jockey Club Gold Cup but again leverage was not a two mile horse even though to kept running two miles. really wasn't even a mile and a half force even though he won the Belmont stakes races where those like American favors Belmont and he just went out there and set a slow pace. And you know it wasn't. It wasn't the greatest field Beater evening an immediate. Nice agreed. Rehearsing r-retain you. Who was another son of grass dark but he was. He was so-so or putting a distant joy. Reid Ridge won that race. 'cause you just went out basically in and stole it. But he wasn't amount air force and he wasn't through Mile Awards and heard biography of absolutely destroying both of them. One by fifteen lengths Anyway but you know by winning. The Woodward kidded him in took the three zero titled away from From Riva Ridge and then Then continued as a four year old. They ran The book handicapped. When we've Ridge set a world record and again it was just save it in the race but wound up on the porch and tried to run with Reba rich early and that was when he ran the Brooklyn amount free sixteens and And we've Ridge wound up winning in the again a photo by for against tonight then or who used to come from like twenty lengths out of it every race and he was flying at the end of that raised. It wasn't good horses that crap. Ten Tam in that race and then team was very very good. Horse wind up winning the Met Mile and actually was second to run the winning. Un underclass and Secretary the second to secretariat when he broke the course record in the man of war he. He's very versatile. Really Small Black Horse but boy can he run and then You know and then like everything else in his career. He comes back in the Brooklyn Handicap and he goes to the front opens up a gigantic lead in that race and Held off to night. Who was flying again from way way out of it. So he wound up winning that race. And then they met the big race to reach for the last time in the In the Marlboro Cup and of course. We all know what happened there. We've Ridge was second and keeping them in just never ever ran and then Eliot Berk tried him on the grass and he was up to track. He's he just went sour at the end of that year. There's less to racism. Kidded him were were terrible. But you know I mean the UN was just You know stab distant crime. Do something different with him. But he wasn't He wasn't aggressive even though was Even though his brother was but unfortunately he ended up this year. He ended his career with poor efforts. But you don't want as best as he could be. He could beat anybody and and like I said that was an excellent excellent crop horses. You know whose name didn't come up here. I'm looking at some charts. I got my. I got my racing manual out. Knowle's say well Nola Hodgson. Yeah he was he was. He wasn't a picture of later on Nola. No but the first half of the year classics though was a He had a tremendous closing kick and he would be in the triple crown races. You know he'd be flying at the end of those races and think he went into. I think he had won the Arkansas Derby and Louise United Serbia absolutely absolutely dead For for homer purdue. Yeah Yeah I I remember Was owned by Joe Straus. If I remember correctly I remember. He has like Orange Silks. You're unbelieveable. Jr Strauss absolutely okay. You're unbelievable who who bred them. I don't know I don't know what it wasn't Strauss. The knuckles The knuckles brothers knuckles. Oh really okay No but But he had a tremendous closing here early in his three year old year. He was closing in in every race. She was very Very good horse but now I mean it was It was it was really an excellent excellent crop. You know when you throw it when you throw in there when you throw a ten Tam in there and and you know it was unfortunate for Perea that you know he just hit that preakness sloppy sloppy track and just couldn't get hold of but again they may be kept making mistakes with With Riva Ridge finally realized he didn't like the it didn't like the SLOP and that's wedding scratched him from the Woodward and ran secretary and unprepared secretary who you talk about bounces by the way back that nobody knew what a bounce was. Can you imagine now having a horse? That was sick. And he missed the travers. He was out for several months. Would've virus and nobody knew if he was going to be able to come back and make the Marlboro Cup. She comes back offer. Layoff it not only now wants to Marlboro Cup. It's such a world record in the race coming in and then they run a back in two weeks. I I can't even think what what kind of a buyer he would have gotten in. That ball was like a one twenty seven or something like that. Or what is the federal grants the Serbs number would have been like a minus five or whatever and then he went back to the mile and a half gophers. I mean they just I mean really I mean it was great but she was so inexpensive still green at the time and Lucian lowering. Should've known better You know maybe a certain himself. I don't know who's decision was but they. They ran secretary and River Ridge in so many races. They shouldn't have and then and and I think you have to secretary gets beat by prove out in the Woodward stakes. People don't realize by the way he got beat by by prove out number one. You realize you're not in that race and he wasn't supposed to run in that race because Prove that had run twenty seven times in his career running one stakes race chesapeake handicap at Bowie. And was out of the money he was all he had was had never. It never worn over mount sixteenth in his life and coming off the Alad Jerkins decided to run them against secretary at amount of half coming off a mile and a sixteenth race should buoy. And he you know he had worked with him and he always liked. The buddy just kept working with the horse so many problems you log in all the time and and Jerkins just kept Just kept giving them all kinds of inhalers and nasal stuff and dandelions and I mean he just any kept changing his bed and he put run out. It's the opposite way. He did everything he could possibly do with that horse. And I remember in the Marlboro Cup. You know I mean secretary looked like he was going to you know Should mean the Woodward you know nobody knew about bounces back. Then everybody figured secretary going a mile and a half again the Belmont after what he had done the first time. So I remember being out in the back at Belmont Day and they showed the The Marlborough on the TV monitors in the back by you know by the pond. And WHO's watching it there but Allen Jerkins and Jack Dreyfuss watching the race so I'm standing. I'm standing next to them watching it and I remember after after the race was over if secretary at one Allen Jerkins turn Tend to Jack Drive. Says what the hell are we doing in this race? Any which is very typical for valid Jerkins and then he goes out and you know track detractors off and you know secretaries league and and prove out takes back off the lead. It sits off from the court approaches. Goes right by him on the inside. And he grew up in wins by four and a half lengths and people realize by the way that at Allen Jerkins not run prove out in that race invasive. What a bad race secretary ran coming back two weeks off a world record okay. Prove out. It's not in the race. Secretary wins the race by eleven lengths and runs the second fastest mile and a half in history Belmont. Secondly to himself he finished he finished. Eleven links had cougar so upbeat who to hall of. Fame two hall of famers in that race and he ran the mile and a half to twenty five from four. That was the second fastest mile and a half. The secretary so secretary would have won that race by eleven lengths in the second fastest mile half and it would have been like. Oh secretaries just like the Great. Just to be the greatest. So what did they do because originally secretary was supposed to run in the war so they run them in this race. Fifty gets beat. What our Solution Lauren. Do you put them in a man of war. Anyway which was like I. We look a week or ten days. Later and secretary breaks of course record going a mile and a half there. So which sets a world record amounts thirty runs the Woodward stakes they run into Woodward's stakes and ran second in the second fastest mile and a half in history of Belmont and then he sets a course record going a mile and a half into man of war stakes in the span of twenty three days. I mean people always look at secretary you know in his career crown but I mean improve out went on and ran in the Jockey Club Gold Cup Jerkins work work them a full mile and a half and then and then blew them out in a race by giving them a a two mile. Two Minute Lick at the end of which he worked half a mile and forty seven or so and then he goes to miles runs. We've reached into the ground running some of the fastest fractions in the history of the two Mile Gold Cup. Was You know I mean fractions? Were like two three seconds. Faster than in Kelso's record so what does prove out do is that he he loves. Any bounces off the rails. The Quarter Pole outcomes in loud at runs run had one travers run second huby in the two Mile Gold Cup distance. Always prove that just runs off and wins wins the race by almost five lengths comes in the last quarter in twenty four and change and Wednesday second-fastest two miles behind Kelso. I mean people wheels. I approve out at the end. The unbeatable it was that was ever going to be pretty. He had that horse. So so revved up because he had great in the Senate he just had so many so many problems. That's why King Ranch got rid of him. but But like I said it was just unfortunate. It's just too bad you didn't Didn't didn't you know retain is forum. He just he other than that time at Saratoga. Where he wanted to. Brooklyn Whitney in the travers. He never really put too with three really really good races together but on his best day he was. You know he's a brilliant he'd to run right on the lead or just just off the lead and you know he he could he. He loved the mile and a half when he beat when he went when he beat leverage but now he was He was very good. Hordes there so it just listen and when he beat river into Woodward to secure the real championship was off to i. I don't know if I forgot. It was sloppy muddied but they called. They called it sloppy. Yeah it was sort of. It was sort of a fast sloppy track. You know it wasn't like soup or anything like that Withdrawing out type of soapy track but again we really didn't want to go mountain want to slop Saudi random. They ran him in that race They randomized race anyway but but then they may damage and the thing is I spoke to petty tweety and she she she Humidity humidity take screwed up. We should have much much better record. But that's a rivalry. People are really know about ten times a year. Seventy to everybody and then of course secretary it was. The worst of the year is a two year old that year. You know the kids would have been the year that year. Obviously if he didn't get trounced by autobiography by Martin his height at then I mean yeah he had obviously he was you know he wound up with Sam and so many good horses and he was just really really becoming an elite trainer. He started he had upset. The suburban handicap was a German bred. Horse its stock but he He had some really good horses. He had maybe he took a darby. Dan castoff was another grouse stock named Prince Dan to California when the sandy the handicapped with You Know Punch. Your Martin was Was He was here? He was really top one or top trainers in the country that point but he had ordered biography he had him really primed in autobiography tissue. Love two miles and the other two really really didn't rob it. There's some believable. There's so much in here and you you hit on a few NOLA Hosei is gonNA capture my interest. The you know with my with my horses the time for got the series that I wanna do and speaking of the people. I'm talking about that. You can't catch another horse. By the way people realized every JOKES ABOUT LEVERAGE. And everything you know. Yeah you get help save. You know meadow stirred and everything that you want to talk about. Maybe maybe the most forgotten horse ever that same year but better stable had another horse that year named Upper Case. Win The Florida. Derby and the memorial and everybody's forgotten about him like he never existed so metal medals able to really good horses and early in the year. I mean they were. They really weren't sure who's actually more of a classic horse was obviously was the two zero champion with. Moore was more brigand but you know he. He had gotten beat early in the year. In in the slop of course they went up running them in the everglades When he won he won the Florida Derby and then he comes back and wins the with memorial and everybody thinks wow But I think he had heard after that and he was really he never did anything after that but there was another worse that year. That wonderful Mingo which was which was the big race in Florida that year he won by ten lengths and sometimes you see him in pedigrees to his name was. Hold your peace sure. Who's a very good horse? He wanted he wanted to Flamingo to here by ten. So when you went went when you look at upper case so everybody's forgotten about nobody remembers Hold your patient. Nobody Remembers Nola Hassi. these were big of a really really good horses. And there's other words that people forgotten voice that he won three major stakes. When he wasn't within states he finish up to track. It was inconsistent. What you've ever seen as it was. Somebody middletown stables English. Free Techs until you catch was in that garden state stakes to He he actually was the horse. That was That was flying at the end of race. He he ended up. He went up second in that race but he's the one that won the The Mamas invitational which is now the high school when we rich supposedly withdraw winning the Ohio Derby. But he wasn't he several really big races back then He was again. A come from behind was but there was some races where he just run around the track and do nothing but some races. You just never knew when he pop up and and Shoots race and he had started off at the Old Liberty Bell Park Kid one. You know something they had small stakes as to your as a two year old but You know on his best day he was He was a pretty good choice to he. Just didn't have many of his Many of his best days I mean you know think of it. You know the more I keep thinking of of some of these Some of these goods that year and it was some really really good wishes the white lease had worked for Penny Brennan. Cloudy Dawn. Who was who's also towards but I believe it was third. I didn't even certain Leverage Belmont. But he had he had run into Mama's invitational too and he was he was a closer he was You know he ran into Belair folks really big strong doc. Almost black Black Horse Really Really Nice horse but then retain was green tree like you said grouse talk really well bred or Sudan Second Weaver. Belmont that another that year. Who's good at the end of the year won a bunch of stakes the end of the year? That William Hacking Perry had named forage who Another strikingly beautiful forts? Run to winning races. Like I said last year like the Romer Discovery. See those kind of racist but he was he was always right there at the end of the I mean a lot of good watches mentioned. That's if you had people don't even think of 'cause they think of was secretary was the horse of the average won the Derby and the Belmont stakes and then you had sex with no secretary career but It was it was it was it was fascinating following those horses through Florida and I said well those Florida horses really weren't around. That's when we started serving himself and team started getting really good so I'm trying to think I think that's about all I can remember. Now this is. That's that's the idea I mean there's so much here and it's GonNa trigger some other conversations and I no La- Hosei and happen to be you know brother of Soy Numero and numerous no was I. I was the first second crop is Damascus and I remember. He wants he wants. I started by like seven ranks so brilliantly brilliantly fast horse never really turned into what they what they thought would but he was one of the first really really fast and the funny thing is is that Damascus. All these precocious two year olds. That would come out and win. First Time outs. Dr Fager. Who stole horses stuck out good later in the year and I would go on a wait until they turn horses. She never produced any really. You know precocious daily precious But she was accused even better Scratching out but But they'll not NOLA was Was a very very fast horse. I choose me I was very fast or the opposite. Hoc- It was a company behind to it. Well and I'm just I'm I'm also discovering I'd seen the name but I didn't know I don't know much at all and I just reached out to Dale Romans homer Pardieu who who trained Them and Veteran by that had a tremendous career grab born basically born across the street from Churchill and Hot Walker and became an exercise rider and had a company of not only not only. Did he win the Louisiana Derby and the Arkansas Derby with no he? He did it a second time. He did it a second time with a horse that got hurt and didn't make the Derby as it happens a few years later. Cl- clever towels in one thousand. Nine hundred tell was a very good horse television. Excellent horse. He he actually he actually turned out to be a really good at ransom. Huge racist thirty two later in the year won. The futurity is a two year old. Yeah but he but he but he turned out he. He ran some huge races. He was running in the Mid West And ran for big races. I think he runs. I think he might have finished. Second in the Travis that would have been that would have been seventy seven. Seventy seven seventy seven seventy. I thought he was like. What are you like Seventy seven. I can't remember what he I thought. He had run. A hit run a big race in the summer but he wanted you want to be he. He won a bunch of racists You know maybe in the Mid West Maybe the American Derby and those kinds of races but he was he was good he turned he turned into very you. Turn to very good horse now. We're going to do like you know. Like I said he was not a hot say he was a Was a veteran already. Hit that time. Well we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk. I reached out to Dale. Romans and I said WHO? Who Do you know that that can tell us about homer Pardieu and he said Tammy's Dad Bill Fox said Bill Bill knew really well? So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA slip this in. I mean th there's you know there's almo rate name it's a tremendous day. Absolutely anybody ever sounds like Kentucky hard. Moody's over I love it. I Love Steve. This would this perfect. Well yeah there were columns and they're great. They're terrific you know so just help. People Escape You know I just think thirty Thirty Question Trivia Quiz that like nobody got anything they were so obscure. But I didn't make him. I didn't make the questions for people to actually try and get it because the thing is you questions. People automatically run to Google. Which is not you know. What's the fun in that. These were questions that everybody should not new study questions. Symbols people didn't get more than two or three right but the purpose of it was to supply the answers to make them really really interesting. Like things you didn't know about racing. I'm at could've could've written them. I've interesting facts but I put it in question form But it was just it was just kind of obscure things that people could not look up on Google. I love it and I saw the headline and I haven't had a chance to look at that yet. I love it. That's great. Yeah but like one of the questions that That nobody got was who was the first horse to be to go off as the favorite North Triple Conway races and when none of them this story that nobody nobody nobody would even know but I I? I remember following the triple crown. Mike at George Airy. It's not that that long ago and wasn't his the we're we're does. He was the favorite in the Derby that that's coming into one and then and then he was the favorite in the preakness that personality one and then he was but he ran. Everybody ran well and well enough to be saving the Belmont. And Sean One. That's right which gave shake with. No I Y- well actually. Her Jacob just died earlier that year so he was actually responsible but John. J trainer became one of the few trains in history to win. Two legs triple crown with two different horses person that he trained personality and High Echelon Nice but that was and and. I that year. That's commander that's coming. Dust Command. Let's commanded won the derby that year running very impressively WANNA walk by himself and he had won the Blue Grass stakes at thirty five to one and He was like before. Charismatic won the Kentucky Derby he he was he was the last horse before charismatic to win the Kentucky Derby who had previously running a claiming race. The only difference is charismatic. Run for sixty two five. That's right and dust. Commander ran for seventy five hundred derby like he probably made twenty five starts but he popped up out of nowhere. In the blue grass stakes just out of nowhere and And won very impressively came back and won and after winning winning. You're thirty five. Twenty comes back in the In and wins the Kentucky Derby again and that started the That started the whole. I'M NOT GONNA call it a dynasty But it was that whole you know the Robert Lehman and vernal even of you know from their came. Run- busty run and and Bob Stasi master Derby and all all of sources but it was just focus in. I don't know why we came up with him. But the one of the funniest things was that you know nobody. Nobody knew how to react because nobody knew who Robert Leeann was and he accepted the trophy the Derby. And Yeah the Kentucky hard boots when you go up there. You're you know you're supposed to be humble. Just the greatest moment of my life You know at this moment. I've been waiting for Robin Leeman. Gets up there. And they they interview him after the race and the S. them so feel like the win the Kentucky Derby and he said I it was good. He says you know he says China's good is big game hunting though so I saw now because he's the gray the Kentucky Derby but now everybody knows that he goes out and kills what kills animals in our base. If he said that he'd be lynched. If that's true but Winning Derby was not as satisfying as And then later on. He wound up explaining because then when he when he when he had run dusty run and mass adobe those horses he bred and he says he couldn't. He couldn't get any satisfaction from just commander because he didn't breed the horse. Then he wanted he wanted to having a big beautiful farm in Kentucky and well you know who who who was you know who they bred John? Henry Kaimuki bread farm about that. So so some really Some really good horses and also also the seventies you know master Derby you know he's running you know you'd run big races Was running against forego and you know one a whole bunch of big races won the preakness Run dusty run of course would have been a tremendous source of reading run come along the same year slew and wound up running second to Seattle slew. Two or three wrecks triple crown and then finished second in the Should be one of the drivers and got disqualified People forget about run dusty run. He was good horse. They put up a what's called Jetski. Who was a mid West Tours and So that was That was kind of a strange Kind of a strange Derby Seattle slew was already gone. You know he was gotten sick. And you know we have to that Effort at California Debacle. So we run was left finally without Seattle slew and finally was able to win wins. The crop gets disqualified roundup forget. I'll never forget Robert. Lehman Swim Big Game on you. Know you get more satisfaction for shooting elephants Irvine And Win the Kentucky Derby. Well there's only really one. There's really only one unsatisfied. Derby winner The Derby winning owner we can think of subsequently so That that's a rare. That's a that's a that's a rare occurrence for a few minutes. Now I know all right. So that means a third. I wasn't even thinking about Gary West. I I'm I was thinking about somebody else. That was snarling. Thirty seconds after he won the The after he'd WanNa Kentucky Derby Save Quite. Nobody myself included nobody. Nobody would bother talking to them. Nobody knows that Steve this tremendous and I appreciate it and we'll be looking forward to To Derby talk next week. Of course it'll be the Arkansas Derby Kentucky Derby. I don't care running Arkansas. Especially if they can get we're GONNA get a lot of they can split that race. It's going to be like me like going. Ebbets field is the kid for a doubleheader double. Well you might see if it if it was going to be day night. The be a separate admission background. They didn't have that now. They do that the fans over there as well. No like what's his name anyway but you know it was. It was Yawkey. It was Tom Yawkey. Who thought that that that split the day night doubleheader for separate admissions almost? I'm almost positive you look that up. I think I gotTA think if I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I think Tom Yawkey created that. GotTa remember I. W I remember my first doubleheader who's the Brooklyn dodgers at ebbets field against the braves remember. Joe Adcock. Hit Three home runs the second game. I ever went to my life and It was a double header and remember sitting upstairs behind third base. And every time I looked down Joe Adcock who's rounding third became correct dot saying okay after that but they love to love doubleheaders Yucky Stadium doubleheaders. And you know game is over you sit there and have some talks and wait and wait for the place to come back on. Again you know it was great loved That was fantastic. But you remember. Remember the famous quote from Ernie Banks Right. Let's let's play two. Yeah let's break too. I mean it's perfect. My Dad My dad tells me about a doubleheader ebbets where I think preacher Roe I think Oh my God I think I think preacher Roe. I think he's I think my father said he did one of the first games the maybe the first game ever saw any any and it wasn't and it was double header and preacher Roe through. I think I think he set a one hitter at if. I'm not mistaken to look that up preacher Roe about that well. That's when that well my father's ninety ninety one so yeah but aged. Derby's giving it's GonNa be like a double header. It's going to be great. You realize by the way which I should wish you a very happy. Araf grafted thank you you too. Best of luck Thursday Thursday night tomorrow. Night with an offensive lineman or they go with one of those speedy Henry Rug so one of those fast wide outstanding. Then they need a wide receiver but they also need not law station. Peter so they they. They need an offensive lineman. And there's some. There's some really good ones this year. so be interesting. It's going to be one of the two. They gotta pick either offensive often. He's tackle or or one of those. I'm here so many good wide receivers this year. I mean this is a great class. Oh there are so many good ones member named Michael Pittman by the way from southern cal. Bobby goes around if nobody snacks. And but this guy is gonNA be He's GonNa be Great. It's always what you get. It's going to be weird. It's a little different right. There's going to be doing from his basement. Pretty funny at Walter. All thirty two teams all set up in their Dan's basements with TV screens and monitors glitch. You know and you can't and you can't get your picking time. I'm sure they'll be and I'm sure they'll be Apparently liberal on that part of it who knows maybe the thing will be great. It's a great draft here so fascinating. Who's going to do what I mean. I can't wait now. Should be good Steve Let me get Seth Merrin here. I got fifteen to say. Hi to seth and this was really fun and I see people that were loving the key to the mint and I got I got. I just got a picture of Nola. Jose a color picture from Leslie off. She was there as a as a schoolgirl. Shows Yes sir absolutely you? You hit it off one hundred percent right. Believable sort of us like a star on it Stars on the sleeves. Yeah I'll put it up. I'M GONNA PUT IT UP ON. I haven't seen I haven't seen the Hussy securing probably forty years. It's coming your way as we speak Steve asking everybody. We're GONNA stay right here. Because Seth Marrow is standing by and rather than eat up three minutes with a break and and since actually top of the hour we we played our our exit music anyway. So perfect. And here's a chance to get seth in here. Talk a little Tampa and whatever else. I mentioned that Seth has been sending out daily His his decamping missives. Good morning the morning to start the week a little early doing mostly Wednesday through Sunday. A little early to get into finally Yesterday with that the pick cried mandatory and What a couple of picks for me and a couple of winners and then the third one shot which you know. I had written in my comments that that was what I thought was the toughest race in sequence. You looked at that horse and it was play. I'm not read boarding. I didn't have it. It would push for me but it was one of the horses. You could have made the argument for in a tough race. That if you were if you were gone a lot thinner like I'd say a couple of winters top picks for me and I'm sure they were for other people to maybe a single in one or two of those and that was the toughest race you could have included towards. I mean it wasn't one of those thirty five. It was twelve to one on the morning lies. Thirty five to one shots that you looked at it and said Oh discourse come from. I mean it was tough. It was it tough for us but there was enough there. Class wise and there was some races underneath the world's Day so it was usable and and it was one of those that again had stat courts lost. I got up. I would have been happier a lot. More people would have been happier but given the money that was put in the pool. I think a lot of people walked with fourteen thousand dollars so well and yeah there. There's one hundred tickets punch plus tickets out there that they come come back and that's nice to get that kind of money into circulation especially you know under these circumstances and you're you're you're not saying anything out of school let's go places Was A was a crazy wind price. Given that any sheet player Let's go places was faster than shady lane who was four to one so you know on. Third Graph. I absolutely now. You have to eat and you know you have to swallow a very very low percentage connections and there was there was more not to like than to light but as they say if you'll go deeper could've made the case well and one of the listen yesterday we said do with Nick Tamra. We said you know if you can afford to hit the button. This was the place and. I'm sure that some people did it that way. Because as you reference. You did have frank that Frankie Doro at three two and magnanimous at sixty five and the two of them you could have really leaned on and so you could have spread in the more you know in the more tricky spots the first leg of the fourth. It was very approachable. And when you handicapped it you could feel that and that it was absolutely worth playing and even if you know even if you struck out and got knocked out in the I had that terrible dazzle man ended up with traffic Probably you know was in in the midst of a winning rally. You know th that's part of it and the adjustment seth that everybody's I brought it up again with Chris Qatar lack this morning. Everybody that plays bigger racetracks in a circuits even the B. Circuits. They're all learning and vision. Seeing the visuals on a five eighths racetrack. There's very few. I mean the some of the some of the fair racing in places like that that are you know. Five eighth ovals. There's IT's new to a lot of us. It is crazy to look six furlong race. They're starting from the top of the stretch mile racetrack on three turns it is you do have to adjust a little bit and kind of figure things out. I said they'll be weeks ago when we're talking about some of these smaller tracks I over the years of handicapped. A number of them for protein and whatnot I like them because as I said that. If you get out of your comfort zone a little bit I think it helps your handicapping. I think you have to kind of refresh your handicapping thoughts a little bit and especially the smaller track like that. You have to modify a little bit as well so I think it helps the handicapping a little bit as I get out of the comforts. All occasionally well It Tampa though that is your wheelhouse and I didn't expect to print out races five through eight but I gotTa tell you the more the more I look this morning I realized this is a really good sequence and I know that I saw that early this morning or late last night. You circulated your analysis. Let's give everybody some insight to the late. Pick four Tampa today. We'll do it just want to go back to race for though 'cause I I will say racist two and four off the turn. The others are on so far. Check the scratches a few go to race. Moore's off the Turkey. I'm going to stick with my topic. There twenty one backyard Tommy proctor. Second Time Starter. Just GonNa take a little. Roll the dice you because there's a little bit of breathing. It's interesting that horse's name Tina TEPA This is linked to that one. That horse won a couple of weeks ago. Sprinting on the dirt One hundred here Thursday. Yeah Yeah it was just recently And so this one I liked the switch to the mile on the grass but again we're getting some class relief in the second. Start with the sibling. Having on the debut on the dirt this one if you watch the first race just seemed to be out for a ride so price it just wanted to toss that out there in the fourth Louise Backyard but moving on to late. Pick for Fifth RACE KICKS OFF. Claims going six and a half. I have a two six four and wanted in the pick for. I'll go to deepen used to in the six to two Shug when the career debut Look pretty good at Gulfstream and February costume solid by a number the foul up. Just a little bit of a head. Scratcher you know had the trouble lines is agitated. So I guess we'll give an excuse there. But then he come across state to try Lesser Optional claimer. I get back to that. Career debut looks like the one to beat but legacy Azteca editorial. That went in Bennett. Camacho seems to be a good one. They claim the horse a couple of back and tried this company. Last time we had an okay third saw throw that one in the mix as well so again I have a two six four and one but on the court. I'M GONNA use the two in the six Moving onto the sixth rate. Ten Thousand Dollar Open claimer and again this one as now anyway still terp four seven one eight. I'M GONNA use the the Four seven and one Crown of joy on TAP. I think the horse will benefit from the seasonal debut at been up in the northeast most of the Latter part portion of last year monmouth the meadowlands turf me And then came down to street. Park West in November laid off from that November start until Towards THE END OF MARCH. Come back wasn't much but again it just looks like one baby primary source to to get the season started. It was against a little bit better so little classically Garrett onboard. We Crown Julianne tap in Talia in the second spot Has again been racing to get like the topic against sixteen claims but a more consistently over the past few starts at is the kind of competitive so it gets a little half step a classroom. We I think will be beneficial and Durban Tried this China. Company at Gulfstream back in November has gone through Park West. Hasn't been seen since then quite a couple of statements stakes races at colonial before that And then the four and five starts back Gulfstream last summer those were okay against. Maybe a little bit better so again. This is the horse making the seasonal debut but I thought that was a bit of clash here. A little bit of back. Class that Just was made the horrible too hard to ignore and Santino jumps on board. So we'll go three deep in the second leg again. I have four seven one and eight but on the pick for him when he used a four seven and one should you should not an MTO but The six Let me see those other. Three they all come out the six to twelve looks like the twelve is running yes. You're you're absolutely right. Six eleven and thirteen or out In rate number Seven seven three seven three eight. May maybe specials going seven furlongs fundraiser is shut brings the first over Honor Code. They paid six hundred fifty thousand for the source at Keeneland September. Two thousand eighteen. Obviously that notable Okay with the win early types. The Dan produced a couple of siblings. One call go another one named sweet legacy both of those took a couple of starts to win. And that's maybe a concern that maybe the source would need to start the two because again the two siblings One of them ran fifth in the debut and then one ran eight in the debut and then put in a couple of subsequent wins but the championships over for twenty thousand main special curse to To Tampa I think means this ought to be well met in. The debuts. Read on top seven eighths when when shook debuts them at seven eighths he's telling you that by all rights the horse needs longer Sugars that a a fairly notable some some some of his better horses over the years that You know we're going to be to turn types. They debuted at seventy and successfully in a lot of cases This happens to be you know. Aspiring was by seeking the gold solving there. There's there's nothing but long-windedness in here in Crete and You know doesn't hasn't really hasn't really lit up the board in the mornings at all. I mean I. I don't see a fast work and I. I only see the couple of spotty gate works. You know I I kinda like to see a a gate work with a little bit of speed and I don't know I I I to siblings took a start to figure it out but I found it interesting. That he you know. He's over twenty thousand dollar purse to Tampa. That kinda stuck out to me there. I don't know what's in the book you know over Golf Streak at seven furlongs. Maybe that's exactly what he wanted But I've got to go three deepen regardless so I I also sense. Justice for Mike stood on. They pay three hundred fifty. This horse hasn't quite lived up to it yet but the debut was a parks last July. The comebacker was April first so may benefit from that move forward. Blame the cake interesting. This is New York bred Debuted Saratoga free in Wilkes. The debut effort was pretty good. Just missed their the foul up not so good but this is a horse bought it. Ocala last April and I always liked it when those two year old sale runners come back in the summertime and validate what they showed at the salesperson with nine point four at the sale last year. So I'M GONNA look for this. One tomato comeback is an approved three year old. So again I have that seven three six five six seven and two but I'll use the five six seven couple of couple of quick notes too and here The mentioned earlier this morning. South when I said You'd beyond we'd look at this sequence the four holy cross in Hemingway and he has one this winter with a couple of second time. Starters and this Horse Rian evenly in the debut and I I would not be surprised to see holy cross. Jump forward in here and Then there's also on the outside I wanted to mention the second time starter from Michael Tomlinson. Who is captain? Billy Roy a cowboy cow. That's a half to the very nice Jordan. Any that Tomlinson trained for the The the Willy William Kinder- The breeders So there's there's a lot going on that seven. Give us the eighth eighth grade. Optional claimer non winners of one and you may be able to tell me this I mean I eight five six four. I'm going to use all four of those in here I have the top somersault. This horse debut is very good. One in the debut then tried to dirt still in good second trade stakes company on the grass last time going longer And we in third. But that's good debut sprinting on the turf so I don't think because it's going to be any kind of an obstacle so somersault on top. It's probably uncle but I'm dropping this one for the tag because the conditions are I think the horse could go under the non one or one other that I mean. I looked up the conditions and wasn't in the book. It was in added overnight. Grace this But I think the Horse could run for the allowance conditions so that they're coming dangling horse with attaching. Yeah I understand. You're running OUTTA racetrack ear. Okay River Hof also coming out of mistakes strike and quickly you one for me. Last time I just have to look for that one to improve on the second starts at six and four and again I'll use off. I just put up just re tweeted. Seth's sheet from today thanks to Chris. Ca- TO LACK P said Steve. And Seth Talk to you in the morning.

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 172 - QFTA The Weatherman

The Tim McKernan Show

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 172 - QFTA The Weatherman

"Yes. Yes. Welcome into another addition of the Tim mckernan show on the inside STL podcast network from the home loan expert dot com studios. It's questions from the audience Mike commitment in two thousand nineteen to this podcast is to make my intros brief. That's it. I feel like I go on too long. Maybe I'll react more on the back end. But I know for when I'm listening to a podcast. I dislike to hear him go right into it. So I'm gonna go right into it. That's what I'm going to do. You know, what it is? It's questions from the audience. You sit in the questions, I answer the questions, you can ask whatever you want. I anything anything I'm liking. I'm like encouraging essentially more. I don't know if he'll answered questions you have nothing to lose fire your bullet, and you can post them on the TMA fan page in the threat of questions from the audience, or if you want your privacy assured, Email me t- mckernan inside T, L dot com. Let us go right into it. For twenty nineteen. I'm going to start on the TMA fan page and somebody says, well, the pick six podcast continue after football. Does the weatherman do college basketball? The pick six podcast will come to a conclusion with the final podcast leading into these Super Bowl regarding college basketball, candidly, and this is the approach that I have for the podcast in general. But you know, now that we're entering into our guests or a year and a half of the podcast nothing wrong with restating it because as I understand we're getting new listener. So just to give you an idea on the podcast since it's my own little world, I own I think it works best. If I'm in. Gauged? And if I'm not engaged, then it's going to be like a crappy radio show. So in order for me to be engaged has to be a topic that I find to be intriguing and even though I'm not a regular listener of Joe Rogan. My understanding of Joe Rogan's podcast is it's its first off it's incredibly long, it's essentially daily and you'll look at the guest list and often times you'll have no idea who the people are. But he does such a great interview. And he's so into the topic that you start caring about it. It's like it's like the greatest compliment from my standpoint. Anyway, you can give to an interviewer is like I said this to Joe buck, for example, with his interview show, there'd be somebody at the Abby Wambach stands out to me is one of his guests where I'm like probably not going to watch this one. But he did such a great job of interviewing her that. Then you're interested in the show. And so from my standpoint part of it is my own selfishness in that. I don't wanna talk about stuff I don't care about. And then secondarily, it's in the best interest of what I think. Is the business which is to not do a show or I'm just like, okay? We got this person. I know some people care even though I don't care so all the smell, and I wish I felt differently about it. Because it certainly shortens up the already brief Saint Louis sports calendar. But at this particular moment, I just don't get into college basketball. I don't I don't know what tell you. And I'm not talking about like this moment as in. I'm recording this on January second twenty nineteen. I'm talking about like the last five or six years. And I the only reason I say six years is because Missouri was a number two seed in two thousand twelve but honestly, it just isn't for me what it was. And I feel like that's the case for a lot of people. We were talking about the bragging rights game, and how the wife of interest there and some people say, it's because Missouri. No annoying been that great. I just think college basketball's a whole is just it's just not captivating people like it used to maybe that will change. But as it is right now, I don't care. So therefore, unlike college football, I can't. Give you a real perspective. Now, if if the weather man is like, I love college, basketball and kill it. I'll just sit here and like regurgitate his picks. But I can't give my thought process. And so, you know, I might as well this tweet out the weather man's picks and going about my day. But I we haven't talked about it either way. Another question came in about the weather man in the Email. Let me read. Okay. Hey, tim. I'm late to the party with the weatherman. What is the backstory with how you started using his picks? Did you find him? Did he find you is the fan Pinner is he a tout guest repeat? What is tout mean? Are you familiar with this term? Really? I've never heard that term. I don't believe he's a professional gambler saw of his Tony laruso each day. The last one I. But the weather man is certainly somebody who studies at like crazy. And for those of you not familiar 'cause I'm sure some of your gamblers, and you're like, yeah. Just don't listen to pick six podcasts because we do three a week. We do the interview the picks we do the questions from the audience when you pick six and the pick six podcast was the brainchild of gangster. Pete who has been listening to stuff for a long time before he was working with me. And he's the ad. It really liked the gambling podcast. You enjoyed it last year because you're picking the big games. But a lot of the times, you guys just didn't have strong feelings. So it's kind of like, yeah, I'll bama's Plan Colombia, and I could certainly see Alabama covered, but I could see clumps ago on covering. I dunno. I guess I'll take Clemson. So this year we actually went into it. And I think it worked I think it worked incredibly. Well. I'm sure there's some things I know there's some things that we can do to make it better. But when it gets down to it would would have people want on people want to be entertained, but people really want picks that they can bet. And Jo's picking g units picking. And I'm picking at the start of it. We pick just games that that we liked, but we made the agreement that we would pick Missouri. No matter what. And and I think the first couple of weeks I made my own picks. And then the weatherman who is a weatherman in the mid west. I don't want to give away his identity because he is on television. Not that he would have anything to apologize for if anything he seriously could have his own thing going here with how well he picks games, and how much he studies it reached out to me, and he was just kinda like giving his opinion on things, and then he gave a few picks. And then I realized I'm like man this guy was right on like seventy five eighty percent of his picks. And since Joe g unit at is said, okay. We're each going to put five hundred bucks in and whoever wins will therefore Nadda thousand dollars unlike on a roll with this guy, and then he just went he just went bat shit. If my math is correct guest repeat might be looking. I believe he is forty seven and eighteen since week eight forty because he lost Mississippi. So we were five and heading into New Year's day and lost Mississippi State, so Mississippi State against Iowa so forty seven and eighteen is a percentage of seventy two point three against the spread since we eight and I think so many people run around and talk about their winning percentage. But it's not documented that I feel like I'm talking about writers podcasters, or if they lose they don't talk about it. And so it's kind it might just become white noise. But this is real, and I have it in front of a spreadsheet, and we obviously have been documenting throughout and for the year were sixty six and thirty seven which is a winning percentage of sixty four point one. I mean, that's just nuts. It's it's absolutely nuts. And I guess if I had a regret it's that I didn't bat all the time with him. And that I would also then. Put my own pets in there. And then I would screw it up. I mean, you're going to get some raw. It's it's it's it's part of the process, but again, it's sample size. That's that's the thing that and it's tough. It's a trying to think of a game that got people going on. Oh here this one Oklahoma, Alabama and Oklahoma was like plus four fifty give or take on the money line. I think it eventually dropped plus four hundred but it was plus four fifty. And so we were having the conversation on the pick six podcast, and I was talking about it on the TMA fan page. It's not as simple as who. Do you think will win? And I tried to explain the stuff. But I also understand that I used to think this way too. And then if you start explaining it some people can like get fended now, they won't say that they're offended. They'll just be like, oh, he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. And it's it's just it's just not. It's it's simple math. It's op it's operating off of probability. It's got enough. I used to fuck it up. So I'm just telling you that my win rate in both poker and sports gambling has improved when you view things from probability standpoint. So let's just say we'll call Oklahoma of a plus four hundred is to make the math easier. So what that is telling you is that straight up. Do you feel like if Oklahoma and Alabama play four times that Oklahoma wins one of those? And if the answer is yes, and I'm really simplifying here. Then then at that point, then you have value on four to one. It's that's. The math of it. Now, if you think absolutely not then there's no value. I wouldn't necessarily recommend betting Alabama's money line. But if you didn't away the fourteen points good for you you one because if you laid the fourteen points, you didn't cover it's like a poker hand, you know, you might be behind, but you have as five of spades. And there's a king and an eight of spades out there and the guy you're playing against bets. And then you're like, I'm gonna come back over the top and push them all in, and yeah, he might have you know, ace king. But, you know, mathematically, first off there's a chance I can get him to fold and then secondarily, so I have value on I have percentage of winning the pot by him, folding, whatever I allocate to that probability. And then I also have the probability that I can win the hand. And if I can do my poker math correctly got. I haven't done it so long holy shit. This just hit me right here used to do this stuff. Like, my sleep. Oh god. What is the math? You're you're about fifty fifty. I think so the maybe not I don't know fifty five forty five. But either way you have the implied odds of the player folding. And then you also have the chance of hitting another Spade on the turn of the river, and then winning the hand. So that's that's that's how you calculate it. And that's how you win. So there's there's math involved, and that was horrible explanation of it. And it really tells me that I really should not just go out and play poker recreational anymore because I've clearly lost it. But, but that's that's the that's the element of it. So one of the things that I was doing during bull season. And I loved was, you know, for example, you're trying to find the middle, and I really feel like, and I don't know how you guys feel about it. And I bet a lot of people don't do it. And then about a lot of people are like, dude, of course is live betting. First off you get you get a sense in in the bowl season for who's there. And who's not Purdue, for example, would be an obvious one. They got run off the field. You could see that coming a lot of people. We were on the over on that one. Anyway, when auburn's beat the hell out of him, but you can see who's into it. And who's not in rarely over the course of bowl season. Did it like materially change in the second half from what was going on in the first half a couple of recent examples in the last twenty four hours as we record? This would be Penn State and Washington, but I think part of that was because Kentucky and Ohio State got up by so much, but you try to find a middle. So I bet Oklahoma state plus ten and as the game progresses. The next thing. You know, Missouri is down, you know, a hell of a lot of points, and you can now bet Missouri, and I got Missouri at five and a half. Because I live bet it and Missouri was getting five and a half. So now at this point the worst case scenario, you have is you're gonna push because you have to bats. And let's say each one. For one hundred bucks. And the worst case scenario is you lose ten bucks. But if Oklahoma state, for example, wins well, how Oklahoma state wound up winning they wound up winning by five both the bets one Oklahoma state plus ten and a half, of course, one, but Missouri plus five and a half one. And so I did that with Kentucky and Penn State but Kentucky before the game. There was an opportunity to do it last night with Texas Georgia, and so you can see these edges. You can also see it with totals in a big way. And so from my standpoint, you know, I'm getting a little more into it. I'm still not like betting a bunch of money, but but because you can see edges, and that's where so it's like, yeah. You might not like doubling down on eleven but mathematically you'll come out ahead. And you'll remember the ones where you get shipped on it. But mathematically, you're gonna come out ahead doing it. So yeah, you're gonna push some. But you're doubling your money with a risk of losing nothing unless you're going while. I already have one hundred bucks in my pocket. Now, I'm risking that hundred to win. Two hundred now, I don't know. I I'm I'm on board with it. And I like it, and so that's one of the things and again, it's not it's not real exotic. But it's just another way to increase your win rate. So the weatherman will be the first one to tell you what happened. This year is not something that you can expect on regular basis. But he did have it this year Andy killed it. And and we will certainly invite him back to have him on the show actually to discuss some of his strategy with his success. But he'll be the first one to tell you. There's no way that he can expect to be sixty four percent again next year. I mean if that happens for real he needs to needs to make this a regular job. Ryan Kelly is the sponsor of the studios here on the Tim occuren- show. He's online at the home loan expert dot com. 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It's just I didn't even think anything about Kansas City until I got the university of Missouri. I didn't think anything poorly. I didn't think anything positively. I just didn't think about it. It's like, what do you think of you know? I don't own Cincinnati. Are. I dunno cardinals go there. I don't like their ballpark. They. Struggle with pitching skyline. Chili Bengals don't do. Really? Well, by don't know. That's that's what I tell you. I mean, it's just like I don't a fuck them. You know? But for whatever reason, I became aware as a freshman at the university of Missouri. This is nineteen ninety four ninety five that there was like this thing with some Kansas City towards Saint Louis. I'm like, wow. And then I remember covering a few things in Kansas City, and Kevin Keats men who hosted sports talk radio there. And I still believe he does like part of his thing was to like shit on Saint Louis, and I'm just like Accu magin like hosts showing Saint Louis and like spending time on Kansas City to just be the weirdest thing and the Kansas City people go, well, you guys are obsessed with Chicago. And then I go net. Really? I mean, you do a survey of like ten thousand people in Saint Louis and see how many tell you that Saint Louis superior city to Chicago. It's or even think anything of it like there's a rivalry with cubs. But you know, Kansas City ins have a rivalry with the Broncos and with the raiders, but I don't know if it's really over Oakland or us Vegas or Denver. Whatever it's, you know, I don't know. It's it's a very odd thing. So I asked him about it and Gabe gave his explanation, and he said, he didn't know anything about the rivalry until he got Missouri. So he felt like it was you know, it was something that incubated in Columbia. So here is what I got. I got an Email here that I thought would be helpful from an explanation standpoint, just finish listening to the Colonel listen through the duration. Gabe, didn't say the word fuck enough to answer your question. I believe Kayla. Mu now has paid weekend anchors. I did the Sunday. Now, this is this is his background. Let's see I tell the story much better after a couple of crown royal's. But here's my theory story of Saint Louis and Kansas City. It's number one. Big brother little brother complex, Saint Louis was once a top five city in terms of population Olympics world fair to major league baseball teams until nineteen fifty three in the world's largest brewery, Kansas City didn't have pro sports until the sixties and was known for the stockyards and barbecue Saint Louis dropped out of the top ten in population in the sixties while Kansas City grew in eventually pass Saint Louis as the state's largest city, not counting total metro area number to Kansas and Missouri. This does play into it with Lawrence being in on the fringe of Casey's DNA number three the I seventy series. This was the hero Shema of the Kansas City, Saint Louis relationship background. I grew up in Perry, Missouri population, eight hundred thirty nine halfway between Hannibal and Mexico and liked all Missouri. Sports teams except the big red being Catholic and having a Catholic captain America quarterbacking America's team I was a Cowboys fan. Plus they were on TV all the time loved watching the royals because they're on TV more in the late seventies. As. The cocaine cardinals couldn't make the postseason but went to four to five cardinal games. A year as opposed to royals game. Every couple years two hours from Bush from the K George Brenton, Keith Hernandez. My favorite players growing up is a freshman at Mizzou in nineteen eighty-five with the cardinals postseason run. It was amazing. I pulled the three oh. And my first semester met kids from Kansas City who didn't really hate Saint Louis, but they weren't fans I loved everyone then the series started. The cardinals took a three one series lead and cardinal fans were bandy and then the crater happened. I was dating a Kansas City girl. We went to a costume party as doctor and nurse the night of game six I asked if there was a TV at the party. And she said, yes, as it was a Casey Centric party. I thought all would be well, then Dinkins your happened. He was fucking out which rang out over the royals. Cheers. He was totally safe. Dude, said some baked fucker from blue springs, and I yell out or are you fucking blind. Now, the nurse had a Dylan Harper quality to her and I was. Looking forward to playing doctor later as it was our fourth date, and it was taking time to cross home plate. She asked me to calm down. I took a deep breath and said fine then after a couple couple of cocktails. She starts like it's graphic. She keeps saying he was so safe. I finished my beer. It was some cheap. Shitty. Cake beer. I said later in left left her at the party and went back to my dorm. I got so hammered on Seagram seven and mountain dew during game seven that I kicked something outside lost it somewhere in greektown. My birthday was coming up in a couple of weeks. So I asked my grandmother for new shoes. Hashtag blessed. I didn't talk to many Kansas City FOX for a couple of years. I was almost over until they started openly routing for the twins in nineteen eighty seven. I met a north county jail in eighty six and we're still married eventually got over. It was happy for the royals recent success, Missouri. Blood runs deep even living just across the river in Quincy probably more than you wanted. But there it is happy new. Year. Hey, Brad, Pitt was three hours short and he turned out fine as well. You can use that pitch to learn him onto the podcast on that comes from Bob. So that's what I was wondering if like started with the eighty-five thing, and then Kansas City one, but it was a win with an asterisk, and it was their only world championship. And so maybe that was what was going on. I don't know. I really don't just know it exists, and it certainly exists more on that side of the state than than in Saint Louis, and I don't know how to explain it. But I gather that Gabe sees it as being from both sides, and you know, and in like, I think some people are irritated when Saint Louis don't acknowledge that it's a rivalry. But I don't really feel like it's a rivalry. And that's not a shot. It's just it's just it's not now if the cardinals royals were in the same division, you know, or Kansas City at a hockey team in the blues, and the royals are the Kansas City NHL team were in the same division different ballgame, you know. You know? But it's just you know, I think if anything I think Saint Louis of like Al Gore to Kansas City, Kansas City is moving the right direction. So the whole Kansas City thing, I don't understand it. But I do think I think he hit the nail on the head that the the World Series of eighty five probably was the thing that that lit the fire on it, Marquette, evergreen wealth strategies, defined sponsor of this podcast and the person that I would recommend you get on board with online at evergreen, S T, L dot com. I met Mark last year and have gotten to know him. And that's why I recommend him wholeheartedly to our audience here on the podcast, Mark Hanna, evergreen wealth strategies. Evergreen S T L dot com. Marquette of evergreen, wealth strategies. Let him help you plan your financial future you need it. It's something that I needed. I wish I had known him back then. And now you can get on board and experience what I've experienced with him as well. Marquette. 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Speaking on behalf of others. So that's just that's nothing to do with you, Danny? No, you're your gentleman is just in general. It's like when somebody has a weaker argument. They go will have have we heard an explanation for this yet? And it's like, you're saying you're saying have I, you know, have you guys had an expert? You know, that's the thing. So anyway, I I am of the opinion that the momentum of the Missouri season. Which I in the pick six podcast last week said, I thought was really an odd thing because I think Missouri won one game was Missouri and underdog Pete against Purdue or they favored I think they were favored. Yeah. I guess I can pull up my spreadsheet from pick six. So if I'm not mistaken, am I missing something. They won one game as an underdog. Yeah. They remind six and a half they were underdog against Georgia, obviously and underdog against Alabama. See who are they getting one point against we have a Missouri getting one, South Carolina. They are not a dog there. My my point is they won one game where they were an underdog. And and then there was this weird thing, and I don't I still want all of us about and it's in. It's like I like it in a way because I'm pissing everybody off by saying it, but nobody is really saying this at least nobody like gets paid to do this stuff, which is odd to me. And then it's like when so then I think people get caught up in the bubble. So that we really do. And it's not a shot at anyone. It's Joe Straus was willing to give an opinion that wasn't popular. And it's helpful because it keeps people grounded. Yeah. I mean, they beat Florida which was a great win. But then they'd be Tennessee and Vanderbilt and Arkansas in who in the SEC wouldn't have been able to do that. So it it got really like overvalued. And but but so so both like the hardcore Missouri fans who are like hypersensitive, especially Saint Louis media critical. Fuck you fuck you. Okay. That's that. But that's. That's saying they're got overvalued. But I also would say if they have Emmanuel hall for the full game they win just like I would say that they beat South Carolina, and they beat Kentucky if they have him for a full game. And I think the I think that's important to note. Yes. Once again, I think Barry automate some odds tra- TJ moves it clutch times, which is a concern. But from a macro perspective where the program is now versus last year or the year before it's clearly on upward trajectory, and so I signed the sun bowl and two thousand seven as what I'll focus on. And that is Missouri. Lost the two thousand six on both wrote a big lead against Oregon state. And I'm sure some very fans perhaps some of the same people who are saying that killed their momentum by losing to Oklahoma state were freaked out by that loss to Oregon state. And I'm sure by the time they kicked off against Illinois at the dome. Home you weren't going. I hope the Oregon state hangover from the sun bowl nine months ago isn't lurking. Don't even thinking about it. I think people want to over overvalue these games because for them. It's really important. But the reality is unless it's one of the CFP games or the tradition of the Rose Bowl their their games that guys are sitting out at this point their revenue generators for the markets that host them for the TV networks, which is mainly fueled by gambling same thing with Monday night football in the NFL. But because some people really care about them as fans they want to act like they're bigger game. And that's fine. And it's great. I'm not if you do care about it. Good for you. But let's let's not if Missouri would have beaten, Oklahoma state. I'd be saying the same thing with an I'd be labeled a hater or whiner cry babies, Missouri fans like to shit on people who don't share their their echo chamber views. And and it's just it's not real Missouri, beating Oklahoma state wouldn't have helped them in two thousand nineteen in Missouri losing to okay. Home doesn't hurt them in two thousand nineteen and yeah, they would finish the season ranked what does that do for you it in the in the whole scheme of things, and that's gonna like rattle Kate, but in the whole scheme of things, Missouri had two great wins in twenty eighteen beating Florida at the swamp and getting Kelly Bryant, and from my standpoint, that's infinitely more important than what they did it the liberty bowl in a game that you know, you had people either hurt on zuri side at people sitting out on Oklahoma state side. You had both coaches making weird decisions you had Oklahoma state's quarterback leading hurry back in the game. So from my standpoint, I just don't think it matters. I know that's like an unpopular opinion. What what does matter is the, you know, they're two games? Missouri loss you, sir. I don't know which one you would say they should have won the most out of the Carolina Kentucky and Oklahoma state. I think I would say Kentucky. But certainly they were all there, and they were all essentially decided on the final play, even though the Oklahoma state game was like a minute left. And in in the two games of Oklahoma state and Kentucky berry and just made some really odd decisions. That are the I just I don't know how to explain it. And that concerns me because going into twenty nineteen I will have much higher expectations for Missouri than I did for twenty eighteen and so much of that is the schedule and it's favorable, and they will be playing a premier program to open up the home schedule when they host West Virginia after going to Wyoming to open up the season and the schedule then lines up with five straight home games. They really have legitimate potential to do something. Great. And I'm excited by that. But you know, the bar. Needs to be higher as opposed to going. Well, you know, these these kids they, you know, they inherited something that was really tough. And now look where they are. Okay. But they just lost to a team that was six and six going in and they were ten point favorite. And there's one win out of the whole season. That you go. Wow. I didn't expect them to win that game the rest of them. They were favorites and usually pretty comfortable favorites. So I, you know, I don't know. I'm kind of confused by the swings. Because some of the people who wanted him fired immediately after the Kentucky game, then we're holding people accountable after they won four straight to end the regular season. And now they're back on man. I don't like Barry Odem, and he's just never gonna and I'm right where I was in general that still makes some in game strategic decisions that I wonder if he's gets tight but overall berry Odom remaining the head coach. Of missouri. At this particular point is in the best interest of Missouri's long term stability because you're not getting into the business of firing coaches every two or three years and on top of it. If Barry Odem gets it going berry Oldham's a guy who's going to stick around Columbia potentially for his entire career. Which is my standpoint what it's all about. And I live jitter could see that happening. And that opinion is the same before kickoff in Memphis on New Year's Eve calling time out to kick an extra point to make it a nine point game in a high scoring game in the fourth quarter is I have to tell you to truly is one of the more fascinating things I've seen from a management standpoint in college football. And there were number of people. I follow on Twitter who I think people consider to be respected continental. Like the carnival Barker hot take people, you know, that we're going. Oh my God. What's he what's he doing? You know, like was it a mistake? And either way even if it wasn't you just call the time out to do that. But either way the thing I in general is moving in the right direction and just that losing to Oklahoma state doesn't change that for my standpoint. Do I think he is going to lead them to what Gary Pinkel was able to do which is conference championship games? I'm not sure of that. But I certainly have higher expectations in two thousand nineteen than I did in two thousand eighteen and so much of that's about the schedule. The other thing that I would say is from my standpoint that was the game for me where I saw drew lock make plays that. I was just like, wow. You know? I mean, there's a third down throw that he made that was just absurd because of the way he was running out of the pocket. The angle he had to throw the football the coverage for the receiver and the little space. He had to work with between the coverage and the outbound sideline was incredible. And then on the final drive where he got lit up. It was able to complete the pass. I mean, those were some big time plays. So tip of the cap to him in the comments he made after the game. I thought were first class as well. So, you know, overall, I think there's going to be a great deal of enthusiasm from Missouri football greater than there was going into this year, and you know, and now it's up to them to to perform, but I'm fired up for it. So I personally Danny disagree that there's now, you know, negativity reminded us of the issues they had throughout the season the coaching strategic things concern me. But again, I just don't Emmanuel hall doesn't get hurt. I just don't think that that. I don't know if it's a game. It's such a huge factor. His his presence James Carlton of the Carlton. State farm insurance agency is a wonderful sponsor of this program. And that is online at Carlton insurance dot net Carlton insurance dot net, James Carlton, three one four nine six hundred forty eight hundred three one four nine six one four. Eight hundred or online at Carlton insurance dot net. I think the world of James so much. So that I have switched to James Carlton to handle all of our insurance as well. If you're insurance costs leg in an arm. Make sure you call James Carlton state farm, three one four nine six one four eight hundred his attention to detail is incredible three one four nine six one forty eight hundred James Carlton, Carlton, state farm, insurance Carlton, sheri- dot net. All right one more question for questions from the audience. Let's see. How do you see college players sitting up? We'll games affecting bowls in the future in combination with the college playoff expanding to eight the coming years. Do you see the lesser bowls dying to diminish participant perception and therefore losing sponsors? Got a good question. Yeah. There's like I said it talking about the Missouri thing there's this thing. And I don't I don't know if I like if I could like delve into the psychology of it. I think it's because for some people bowls mean the world I'm talking about fans. And then therefore it pisses them off when other people don't share their excitement, which is like I'm like, I'm excited for the av ns. But I know like there's no one else in my social circle who's excited for the fans. There's probably no enlisting to this excited for the VN's. My wife is not excited for the fans. I'm excited for the ns then people shaming me for liking the sex awards. Does not dampened my enthusiasm for the fans. I don't care. So if you really got into the liberty bowl. And then somebody goes, I don't fuck it. Like Stingray was texting me. So what do you think? And if you go into the game, do you wanna do a post game show? I'm like, no, I don't really I don't really care. I don't know. What to tell you? You know? I mean, I, but I know if you live in the south bowl seasons accused deal, and then some very fans go see. That's the problem. It's a loser meant to Emily. I don't know. What to tell you that? If you think that that's the reason why Missouri football hasn't achieved greatness than okay? It's a fascinating perspective. But if that's your line of thought to focus on holding fans accountable for not going to bowl games, you know. Great. Maybe you're right. I personally think it's not accurate. But maybe that's correct. So is the I think what will happen. I certainly think it's the solution with five conference champions, and then three at large teams becoming the college football playoff. And then seeded by the committee, and that will be it. And I think that will be at for a long time using the bowls as the quarterfinals and the semi finals and a rotation for the championship game location that now you have an objective way to get in. And you still have the debate that makes college football. So unique whether you like it or not certainly is different that you're sitting there going will Notre Dame shouldn't have gotten in Georgia should've gotten in or UCF. Okay, UCF loss. Well, Georgia should've gotten in the Georgia loses. Well, still Notre Dame shouldn't have been in. It's like, well, it's results oriented. So here's how the process works. You play your games. You went all your games and you've playing in one of the big programs like Notre Dame you're going to get in. And personally like I said back in October. I thought UCF should have gotten if you win all. Of your games. But I also recognize the argument. Well, they didn't play anybody. People say Notre Dame to play Notre Dame beat Michigan today. One at Virginia Tech Notre Dame won at USC. I don't know what people want they want. What fits their narrative? If you're SEC guy, you say Georgia should get in. If you don't necessarily like Notre Dame. You say Notre Dame shouldn't have gotten. And then you see them get beat up by Clemson. And you'll see the proves it. Well, like two weeks ago, Missouri fans Purdue is one of our best wins Purdue gets the shit kicked out of them against Auburn while. Okay, fine it and it just changes based on the phantom. It's like talking politics. It's such a it's it's a very frustrating discussion. I cited Todd Firmin's Twitter timeline. The sports gambling. I always out on the show. I liked quite a bit. But he tweeted out after Georgia lost, Texas, anybody who thinks that this performance by Georgia shows that they're not one of the four best teams in the country is an idiot. And I'm like what the hell is that? I mean, they have three losses, and you know, I think you can make a fair case that they're not one of the four best teams in the country. And then what's your argument? Well, if you don't think like, I do you're an idiot. Okay. And then earlier in the day when Ohio State was beating the hell out of Washington twenty eight to three at the time. He tweeted out boy house state fans have to be kicking themselves. What happened against Purdue? Okay. But I mean, they nearly lost at home than a Brassica. And they were very fortunate Maryland's quarterback threw a bad pass to wide open receiver in Maryland. Otherwise, they would've lost that one as well. So you know, how state didn't come out of this thing completely unblemished as well. And they lost by twenty nine to Purdue would Alabama had that you just had a year where you had to teams that were heading shoulders above everybody else. And that's just kind of the way that it works. And the Georgia thing fascinated me because I'm like if you're watching this game. This isn't the two of that we've seen for the vast majority of the season he's clearly hurt. And I'll tell you something regarding the Clemson game coming up thought, it was an odd answer that he gave right after they beat Oklahoma that his ankle just is not right. That's a factor, especially against clemes. An actual defense. So otherwise, I would be I'd be on Alabama. But now, I'm telling you that guys not right and people old Jalen hurts is just as good going. I don't think he is. But maybe you're right either way. That's what I think will happen with bowls. And I don't think that that is going to diminish bowls in general because I think when it gets down to it. I mean, people are sitting at home they're off work and they're betting on games. So they're going to have ratings, and they don't know who the hell's in there. They learn and it's like I'm not going to bet on this game because Oklahoma state's top two players or sitting out or I'm not going to bet on West Virginia and Syracuse because will Greer's not playing so that's not going to change. And then for the hard core fans and the boosters, and if it's a good location people are gonna go to the polls, which then makes money for the city, which makes money for sponsors. Which is what this whole thing is really about. I guess before my time going to a bowl was something. That was reserved for the best of the best will now. More than half the schools, go to polls the thing that bothers me is that the standard of the sixty seventies. And eighties of you. Go bowl. You had a good year is still being used in twenty eight teen when you can win against a bunch of bud asses and have six wins. And then call it a successful season. I just I disagree with that. Like the thing when Barry Odem job was being discussed after the Kentucky loss while if they go to a bowl, Missouri doesn't fire coaches who go to bowls. Maybe that was the case like in the seventies and eighties. But that's not what's going on here. Everybody can go to a bowl these days. So I don't I don't see. I don't see the bowl going away. I just don't and this is coming from somebody who's not a bull fan, but I loved watching for the purpose of gambling. But I didn't go you know, what? Now, I think Georgia's a bad team because they lost their last two games. Or now, I think produced sixty points less than Auburn because motivation is a real factor which makes gambling on these things. So. Difficult to do because you're trying to handicap and intangible that's why live betting on them has value because you can tell early on often times who's there. And who's just like, we don't really give shit. We're treating this as vacation. So that's for my standpoint, I love that. But as far as being like some canonization of a team or program. Listen, I'm sure Kentucky fans are feeling really good about themselves after beating Penn State. I just don't know if it's going to impact when Missouri and Kentucky get together in Lexington later on this year. So that's where I am just like I said son bowls debacle in two thousand six from his URI, and they had one of their best ever in two thousand seven, and I don't think anybody was thinking about the sun bowl, and Illinois kicked off against Missouri at the dome, you know, nine months later. So there's my bull perspective in some autopsy, I suppose on the two thousand eighteen Missouri season, which I think illustrates progress and the whole scheme of things. Mike, Judy presents sponsor the podcast. Johnny Llandough Chevrolet spot. For the podcast Ryan, Kelly, the home loan expert dot com, Mark Hanna, evergreen, well strategies and James Carlton of the Carlton insurance agency sponsor the podcast. It's the Tim occurred show on the inside S T L podcast network from the home loan expert dot com studios.

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Danny Mac & Martin Mailbag  December 11, 2019

Scoops with Danny Mac

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Danny Mac & Martin Mailbag December 11, 2019

"Well we can finally say it. The scoops empire has a home and now we are doing it at the podcast center at scoops incorporated. You thought that Martin Martin Kilcoyne that we would have An empire and it's not quite an empire but it's slowly getting there he's got swag folks coming to a store near you soon. He's got hats and shirts. We've got cables microphones. Even phones. People are going to have a phone anymore. I got phones The podcast center will be able to go on the road. We're going to be able to do this Wherever we may be and I'm looking forward to this or we're going to take this is probably we're going to take a burning Panga for you and and the empire took a big step on Tuesday because I'm at Ferraro field. It's the idea of the Missouri Introductory Press Conference Mary Mary after noon. Meaning 1205 on the Tiger Network. And while you wait don't forget one eight hundred cat hat. Hawes that I said the press conference was not official until Mike Kelly said that but then in the QNA each reporter is supposed to say their name and their affiliation allegation. That's right so it goes around the room. Smith was air for scoops with Danny kind of the post-dispatch and Kansas City Star. And then this young man said I'm here with scoops with Danny Mac. CNN moment man instead of ESPN or Fox sports or CNN. Simply I even said he goes. I'm with a Sdn what scoops. Danny Mac oh the SDN empire guy like that SDN blazing on the warrior SDN. I really liked the Lawrence taking pictures and I'm wearing sweat. Sweat a Hoodie. Yeah you let pants. I took my dog to get cleaned so I've got dog hair. You're on me you kinda thuggish thank you look. I was going for you know last week we talked about that we were going to do a rams review like we were in the mail bag. I believe we were knee deep into male right and then we said we got a lot of male but we also need to get to the ran right and if you ever wanNA email This particular podcast Dan at scoops with Danny Mac dot com Dan at scoops. Who Danny MAC DOT COM? I also WANNA mention by the way. Ted Simmons goes into the hall of fame and January. You worry eleventh the NCC s we have a big night. Raise money for the National Children's Cancer Society and we'd already booked Ted but now ted is now hall of Famer with Ozzy Ambience Stage Mike Mike Show. We'll be there should be a fun night. NCIS DOT org one of the great sponsors. This month on scoops with Danny MAC DOT COM But I wanted to make this solely about. `Bout the rams I I have had so many people. I know you had this to about what has happened. Since why did it happen. And some of the back stories behind the Saint Louis Rams when I say Saint Louis Rams Martin Kilcoyne in your station was intimately involved with the rams having carried them. Mm for so many years What comes to mind when you think about it? Well I think on the relationship the Fox to head. It was a good relationship with a lot of people watch even when they were bad. And this is the misnomer with sports ratings and you guys deal with it at Fox Midwest. Oh the numbers are down. But they're still big numbers huge numbers. Yeah and so. That's what I let me just interject. They I shouldn't have brought that up this last year. I I read an article that said well numbers were down at Fox Sports Midwest. But they're still number one in baseball. The numbers there's across the board were down and we still were huge zoo. Is it relatively speaking. We did pretty well anyway. Glad solve the merry go round round in the booth because we had that way so yeah I don't know if they did so anyway the relationship that Fox and the rams it was a good one in my boss at the time Spencer Koch worked hard to get the most most of it because we were your quote home of the Rams every game being on almost every on Fox so on the whole is good relationship a lot of great people in that building I think sometimes sometimes you and I get on Iran we forget there are a lot of cool people players. Ray Mommy their great times in Saint Louis there were in. They were too few and far between but but a lot of great relationships So the RAM era and it ends up now being kind of a blip in history but it was twenty one years and some some of the bitterness as to how it I'm not bitter at all danced better under slightly bitter slightly upgraded the doctors have upgraded into the slightly better kind of four. Now I had one person emailed me and said the way they look at in granted they're probably more upbeat positive person than your eye but they said hey the least we did. It was a bad deal but at least we got twenty one years of NFL football that we wouldn't have otherwise had. I haven't heard that from too many people but the expense of the taxpayers to build a building that apparently wasn't suitable for the rams so it came at an awfully big cost. I'm saying IT'S A. It's a small segment their bill and Melville or whoever was emailed. Me May just be one person but I think the bitterness of how it ended is still there rooting against the team. I don't really care. I don't pay attention that much if they win or lose right but I think the lawsuit and we sort of touched on this I think and this is where the male L. really got heated up last week knee-deep in the mail bag and I think we ended up talking about the lawsuit because of the great piece written at Espn Dot Com. That's sort of stoke the fires everybody the on. Well wait a minute. What gone who cares? Wait a minute we might get some money out of this. Oh wait a minute. It's not just us saying you screwed this up royally it's it's other teams that are now chiming in so I think we do need to kind of quote move on about certain things but not when it comes to being Rondo onto wasting money in it seemed like the League and other teams are kind of all say now what you do. How do we get one now? Why they're because they're on the hook and win- EH teams and other people get on the hook and money's involved they say now? How did this happen and why did it happen? And did we do the right thing. It I mean on the surface if if you're an owner you're you're dealing with so many different things right you're dealing with your own team your own community your own employees wins and losses and they say hey by the way. Everybody's GonNa make a ton of money money and we're GONNA move this team at you know it's not going to don't worry about you. Your stuff is going to be fine. And we're GONNA screw this community in the city and this region but hey that's that's okay you're gonNA get your check and everybody goes ok but then all of a sudden when you have a lawsuit coming and it's starting to affect the bottom line in the league in the League is getting awful publicity. What's going on now? We got a problem. And that's what's starting to happen. Finally I would say this to the another blessing in disguise was the rams making it to the Super Bowl because then for two weeks the eyes of the sports world for the most part were on the rams and then because of that you're going to have what do people people in Saint Louis doing. What do they think about this? Oh by the way. Wait a minute what how did that happen wait a minute. Let me read that relocation letter. Oh that's terrible because most people didn't pay attention if you're outside of Saint Louis you don't care you don't care team moves you move on but when it affected other people in the NFL. That's when you had your problem. And that's when the attention got put on the spotlight of dem off and cranky and the disingenuous manner in which they left this town and I think there are plenty of people in the know who will say that it was a dog and pony show Eric Grumman. who was in charge of in charge of the league's potential moves or relocation? I forget his title but our old friend Joe Straus referred to it as dog and pony show so on the stage at the okay then peabody Opera House. I believe we're all surrounded you there. Then I was there that night and then went up and interviewed air groomed from the League after and I said many have called it dog and I don't do dog and pony shows you know whatever but Forget where I'm going with this now but I think people people that were watching it even within the Rams Billy said this is because you know we're gonNA people at the NFL network said. They're going to ratchet sorry guys they're gone like so many many people knew that it. It still had to get done. But it was the league's intention and Stan had the money to pull it off so like then. Why are we having a stadium? Committee and I believe peacock was even told by some people. You know this is a little late because you know. And he's like well. It's not too late. We still got WHOA. You mean. It's too late but people at ram spark we're already of the mindset were gone. Don't worry we're doing inventory in the summer of Twenty fifteen so I I think that the charade that went on in the money that that was spent and lodges political wrangling even to get judges to agree to last minute deals remember trying to get the Amarin to move the thing on the land like wastes the NFL. Just sort of like screwing with everybody. And I think that's why the lawsuit matter so I I did get an email from well. I got multiple emails about this. PODCAST and one was very very passionate was Dustin Def- Ronco hopefully. I'm saying that right. And he listens to your podcast with Bernie and panger loved the stuff with Tony. He said he grew up in Saint. Louis he's now living in Minnesota and he said I cannot help but try to understand in this. He said you know they. They used taxpayer money. And it cost over billion to build a Minnesota and that's where this individual Li lives now. my one question Michelle smallman moment of one zero. One had a conversation with Bernie Miklos on her podcast about Kraken. Goodell calling him and telling him that the move was one hundred percent false. Wouldn't that be the evidence in the lawsuit. I I can't answer that I mean it could be hearsay. I would imagine or they could just deny an. It's not on the record but to the bigger point we all all. We're being told those kind of things and those are the kind of things that are being brought to light now. Not just from goodell or dem off or cranky or you know. I put a lot of Jack in in this market. I mean give me a break and the disingenuous manner in which they did this and then shoved it in the city's face. That's the bigger issue. I think that people have a problem with I've been told by People Martin. 'cause they know how passionate I am and I mean well meaning people. Dan is switching from slightly bitter. I've got him back to bitter. Okay the deal has move. Well they would tell me you know you need to move on and I would say well. I understand where you're going with that but but I'm from here I I've been born raised here. I grew up in the city limits. I'm raising my family here. It's tough for me to move on and with four kids in my oldest watching him cry the the night they moved only time. I've ever seen him cry seriously. He was a baby cry. But that was it never cries And and we used to enjoy going down in those those games and now that that's been taken away from him or his kids for no apparent reason other than greed and that's all I say that bothers me and that's why it's tough you have to move on. It's real tough for me and I think it's an emotion. A lot of people had say. Oh my God I love Y'all and even if they weren't good it was an experience absolutely love tailgating whatever. The experience was none of that matters in the lawsuit. Those are the emotions of the city. But you could be a person who feels that way. Say We tell me more about this lawsuit and get excited because it's not going to right a wrong but at least the league that Kinda just tramples cities and people is being sort of checked on all of this and now there's according according to ESPN DOT COM and it's very believable. Almost infighting where other teams are kind of annoyed with a wait. A minute and by the way Stan you agreed to pay our legal fees. Remember when you sign that in and that's how talking about earlier. Yeah and it. But so he's in charge of all their legal fees which is going to get really expensive but then this lawsuits going. After the relocation fees season each team got thirty to thirty five million so now the teams are saying okay. We don't have to pay these legal fees but this is annoying. They're asking for my phone records from the summer of two thousand fifteen. They no like headaches. These people don't usually have to answer to anybody so it's a headache and then on top of the legal fees at stance paying this money that the city and the county of Saint Louis is asking for. Hey wait a minute. That's that's our money. So it's gotten I think it's led to more infighting and it's put the spotlight on them thank God. ESPN DOT COM to that in-depth peas working working on it. Even the money quote and the money scene where Stan at the coffee shop in Malibu Goodell insane I have to step out. Yeah you you know. Get the reporters said we had that as a piece for like two or three years and never never fit in one of our stories so I would like the they they have really been monitoring that story for a while. What do you think I'm GONNA throw some names out at you and and just give me what comes to mind or maybe a story when you think about it? But I'll start with Kevin having dem off and awkward would tell anybody no we're not leaving it's it there's no chance and of course. I went through his twitter. Feed and made sure that people knew that it was disingenuous Januarius and it was When you think of Kevin Dem awful comes to mind I've always called him smithers because it's the simpsons character to Mr Burns kind of does the thirty worked for the guy who's really in charge? I think all along we wondered you know to be trusted is probably too strong from the early the days when I was around him he was sort of place their Bob Wallace. Who'd been a longtime executive? I think quit more or less. Because he said you know I'm not GonNa let let him run the building. I've been in the League for thirty years. And and John Shaw Team President New Demos Dad and kind of placed him in there I get along okay with them. There was are falling out was well before they laughed and it really never change. I was doing the preseason football which Fox had the games and it was a chance to do play by play which I'd always always wanted to do but preseason football is not exactly an easy thing to jump into an have now. It's hard the ninth receiver exactly comes in and then the tender always changing guys in in and out so sort of a mess. But I was happy I got the chance to do it. And in the spring of twenty eleven now spagnolo had been there for what two eight years I guess and just kind of slowly getting rid of longtime employees which does happen but I thought it was happening too frequently like every you know Todd Hewitt got a lot of attention. He was the equipment manager. I knew todd. They fired him. Yeah Good Viana Guy Exactly and then a chief Linda who had been the security guy. It was just sort of like this idea that spag acknowledge what really bothered me is that he was given all this power. winsome games right but then John Oswald who was there travel coordinator the nicest guy in the world. We'd do anything for the organization. Well Spingola didn't really have a place for him and so they told them a next year. You know you're not in charge of traveling on chart so he's like okay. What should I do? And they didn't give him much to do and then a year later they said well. You know you're not really doing anything so we don't need you and I just thought it was cruel and even people that worked in that building and this is a really long answer but this is to my hi De ma relationship on the radio that day Frank Cusimano brings it up and Franks doesn't throw which part the firing of people brings up the John Aswa and this is probably like in the middle of March or April during the football Sharon and so it just Kinda got me fired up and we just kind of say good? God's Bagnall good fine people win some games you know we just just went on this rant so then I get a text that afternoon or evening First of all I went and told my boss Spencer. I said you're going to get a call from from Demo. He's not gonna be happy but we said I'm sure it'll get back. Everything gets you know everything back to everybody and he said you were wrong. SPAGNUOLA didn't and fire Oswaldo. I did any sit in the future. If you're GONNA TRASH NAM paraphrasing loosely. But he said if you're going to trash the coach and the G. M. Billy Danny who. I thought the two of them that were on a power trip my spags and demanding he said in the future. If you're GONNA trash all these people please include me and I wrote back will do do and that was that was it that was it so Spencer said I don't think happy with you. And to his credit we went and had breakfast or lunch or something. I forget what I watch or something sponsor and potentially a mantra. Yeah we should get them. Edit that out yeah go go to hotshots and get the The Burger in the egg sandwich and he should've been well he wasn't worth worth. He wasn't worthy of Huchon. How about that? So we're about it so oh this guy so we're sitting there talking and he said listen. You know the problem is you're the home of the rams you at the coaches show the preseason football and then you're on the radio trashing us and I said no trashing the specific the topic. Not About play calling or even you know it was about how people are being trio and I have a problem with that and he said we need if he were sitting here he did Mitt. This conversation took place is he said we really need more of a cheerleader. And he said I like humor and I like your style. But that's not gonNA work if you're going to be closely affiliate with what we're doing and it's a conflict adventure sports dreicer channel two. I can't I can't do that for you. I sit for four nights in August. I can't just for the rest of the year not have opinions or you rip things or what. I can't do that and at the time he said well. We're kind of like the Indianapolis Colts and Sam is going to be our Payton. He said we're about to take gough. And this. We gotTa have people on board like we said we're about to take off. That was the twenty going into two thousand eleven. I don't do. They go to and fourteen. I think too you started out. Oh I was thinking that they might go over. I can't remember the exact math but I think they went to and fourteen and I and I was let go. There's only if I've ever been fired. They just didn't have me do the games anymore. And there's no Andrew Solano started doing the Games and he's known Kevin for a long longtime. I just saw him in Chicago problem with him. He's probably better than me. It doesn't matter but that was the end really of me and him. Having a normal relationship was over over those comments and I just said Hey. I felt emancipated. I'm like if you felt I should be a total chilly in the coaches shows. You have to you know play footsie a little bit. Yeah drill the guys. Although Fisher to his credit was asked me anything you want but that was my Kevin after that it was all a little bit tense. How about Stan? Kroenke Craxi almost no dealings on my end. He does have These are just. I'll give you my opinion on these people but my personal dealings he he has a pr guy named tomato. And I would email him twice a year. Hey We'd love to Probably not gonNA happen this year. You know thanks for checking in. Hey We'd love to sit down. Understand hits the ramp station. This is before things go. How could he not visit with the team that You know the channel carrying the team or the network that's paying billions of dollars and and try to at least connect with the fan base. I mean if you and I said let's get bill dewitt on the phone within the next hour we'd have them Dilmun we'd we'd have I'm sure Caroline Kendall Bats. Jim Cavanaugh. Tom strunk we'd have them. I mean that's a done deal and I think it also speaks to especially as it got a little and closer to move but but going away from it but early on like. How hard did you try and win a granite? He's not a good talker. That's for sure and the only time I think I talked him for more. Within ten seconds was in Foxborough. He took possession of the team in the summer of Twenty Tan. And we're in Foxborough is Bradford's first. Start as a I guess starting Huby and John Shaw who never traveled but was in Foxborough for John. What he is saying? Martin Comedian knows stand and I said not really. I've tried to get to know him. and Martin this is Stan. He's the fulltime owner now because he had been. Yeah that process to replace chip and Lucia and he said well Mr Shaw. Here's WHO's the reason I'm illegal. I would all Mr Shaw. Yeah words that I've never forgotten because John ended up sideways with Yawkey is what time and and ended up being a charge. We always a charter friend of the Spanish anyway. Dealing with stand directly never have other than those minimal exchanges but I think as an owner And my my colleague Charles Always said the reason cranky sucks is because he's an owner who wants to make it a business and the guys who just is one a win and have fun. Don't really look every month at the bottom line. At what point did you think this is it. They're they're gone. I honestly because you you were connected with people down there. Yeah I honestly I always thought there was still a chance I even though you heard. Everybody said they're gone. They're gone even going into the the final muddy to Houston. I thought it was probably a long shot. Always told they had the votes to stay at the the the good majority of the the owners did not want to go until Jerry Jones got involved and then that was it. Yeah I mean I always thought it was a long shot and I had that from a reliable person. Yeah I think I wasn't for until it was official. I wasn't sure they were leaving but I wasn't stunned. That had happened the way it did in Houston. Although it's really weird how it played out and almost like the secret ballot was always their plan. Like let's just get through this charade and I remember interviewing spanos in the lobby of the night before and I said is there a scenario. Where where you in Karachi could go here what he's like no no no we have the Carson project that's all we care about it the Carson projects okay yeah and yet they end up and ended up at fellows after all which? Maybe they deserve each other. Absolutely I thought going down there. This is probably the end. We gotta be effect with my boss. Audrey pry right which I said. I think we need to photographers. She said we'll wise and I said when this thing ends I might need one down one hallway me another all way. Yeah chasing people literally literally because if this goes down. It's a huge store in Turk- credit she said sounds good and we sent her two best guys and we were chasing people Jason Demo off. And you couldn't really get the stand that's always the problem press conference severance but I just think rocky is a business and people told me Rams Park. He has an. I don't know what's all you know myth. And what's reality reality. But they said he gets like a sheet every month and it lists everything that he owns rams as one piece of the wineries on their real soccer so he gets in Colorado although yeah teams there even though he doesn't quote own them remember that show. Yeah yeah that was really jam him up but he gets in at the bottom of all of it doesn't say they're in first place in the Pacific Division. It says how much they made or lost that month. That's the spreadsheet he gets on all of his entities and even even the Jerry Jones a terrible owner. It's been proven in Dallas. Good making money. I guarantee he looks at the standings. I like. Are we in second place. Third Place. Sure I think we just got an owner who you know to his credit. I guess help bring him here but who just didn't really care about making it work here long term. I know a lot of people that would be. You're listening to this or saying alright. What about San Diego are not San Diego? The La chargers were here net. They could be on the move or with the NFL. Say to this lawsuit lawsuit. Look we'll we'll settle by relocating a team or giving you a team would hear about that. Most people have said if it's been mentioned and it's been real like flippant like well. We could get the charge. I don't think there's any real traction there but weird or things have happened and keep in mind in this league. The colts in Rams Georgia's old husband. And I'm thinking of the Earth as owned the rams and I forget enough for a Rosenbloom own the Colt they traded teams. Right like EH trade. Oh sure is crazy as that. Sounds now so anything's possible. But I don't think the league really even though the lawsuits a nuisance nuisance. I don't think they really want to throw Saint Louis a bone. I don't think and I think they want to be in San Diego desperately. They want to be in that market. The hate the fact that didn't work could they go back. It would have to be a billionaire that get rich panels. He's more. I think he might be more despised in San Diego then. CRUNCHY is here. He might be the way that went down. The fact act that he was trying to get public funds for stadium when they were real. Kind of Brash. About we're out of here in San Diego California unless you have a Stan Kroenke that stabbed Eh to be somebody who says I'm GONNA come in and make it right for my point. Is I think the League would rather try and save the San Diego market then throw Saint Louis a bone. I don't Oh no if the appetite is there any more for the NFL. In this town. I I don't know. I think that fans were gravitate and go back to it and there'd be support but they're always speed that thing in the back of people's minds when are they gonna move or are we doing everything right. Is Everything going. Okay in one dollar down there since it's still that same league league. I don't think in our lifetime. I really don't think it's ever not in my lifetime. I think it's ever going to happen. You never say never right. I mean that's never say never. I don't think it's ever going to happen if it did. It would be a fascinating study. How many people say Hell no because the appetite is from the casual fan? I think there's still an appetite for the product and I've always said and we're all guilty. I mean I I love some of the Games they love the game. Hate the League and I've said that many times where the Games on a Sunday of it's known in Saint Louis and Fox News got the packers hosting the Eagles. Yeah I'm probably going to watch that game. which probably makes me hypocrite for all the times were mad at the NFL? So I think people still have an interest but in terms of like supporting it or if it would be a fascinating study of even if we had one game like. Let's say next year. Eight Saint Louis. You're hosting yes that's classic and it's going to be the bears and chiefs at the Dome and come on down now with bears fans its use fan show probably bad example. Yes but Saint Louis fans if you had a team. I think it'd be tough to get everybody back. I remember when the cardinals left. I used to go to those games on Sundays. And I think they there was like some exhibitions between the cardinals. If memory serves correct and the rams and I remember member going down to Bush stadium and watching those because it was football. I didn't understand I was a young kid. I mean I didn't understand the business side of it like I do now and it just makes me sick to my stomach like my wife. My kids love watching the NFL. My oldest does in particular. And she's like you need to take into a chief's game or something I said I'm not spending a dime on the NFL NFL. I'm not doing it if somebody would give me tickets. I would do it and they're going to have to pay for my parking and I'm dead serious and that's that's the mindset I'm talking about. I think a lot of people would say I'm not gonNA give him a dollar now going down there so even if there's a portion that says God I really Miss Football I really want to have it back and hey they gave us a charter. Let's make this work. We don't WANNA look bad in there is again. I just don't think there's enough that would sell it out. I don't think it would be a runaway hit so that time has passed and the big big winners for the blues were big winners and some people who were on the fence about hockey had kind of disposable income and maybe decided to get into that and then the Milan I think as a league. You GonNa take a while but I think at some point and maybe in our lifetime maybe it's in thirty years that the MLS their stock is higher than the NFL because of the injuries and lawsuits and all I definitely think participation in in the sport of football I don't think I know the numbers way down. We down for sure. It's not to say hey that you wouldn't have enough people to that. Played it or had interest in it that you're always going to have that But to the to the point that all these kids are on Saint Louis and other cities cities are playing soccer and if the competition gets better at the MLS level which it is and they marketed. Properly here in town which they will and they're gonNA keep it here because they're Saint Louis INS and they care about the market. I think it's got a chance to be huge in this town. I really do because it's a young person sport. It seems like young people gravitate for whatever reason to that sport. You're always going to have the soccer fan. Saint Louis is the soccer capital if you will of the United States so there's that already born inbred soccer fan here but as young people see it and then experience a game. I don't know if you've ever been to a game. It's it's fun. Never been there great. I mean it's A. It's a tailgate the wearing a scarf But I think they're going to be finer in all of this. I think the fact that it's downtown and younger people be attracted I. I think that's a win for the the city so long term. The Rams Story. I think that's a big part of the lawsuit is people just want. The story told properly so it's not just oh Saint Louis you losers you. You couldn't keep a team right and it did have with the big red but I think that's the narrative didn't go to the games too bad saint Louis and people people just want the truth being told I think that's the number one thing we're very parochial and we're very proud to be from here. We kinda take care of our own and I'm not saying every city doesn't have that feeling too. There's a lot that do but when you're in this town in this market we're very proud of where we're at and You know it's tougher an outsider to come into Saint Louis at times it depends on how they embrace it. We seem to know had embrace people. Sometimes I do. I think it's great when out of town people invest in our town. Why wouldn't we help them? But my point is with this is that it becomes a situation. Where if you in it? I've said this from day one if an owner or a group of people that have an interest in this town if they show just a little bit of love you're going to get it back one hundred percent from the fans. I mean hundred times. What they give they're going to get back and that's the way it was? I think one but to your point about crowds thank character had this in one of the notes that he brought. I mean he's all over it but two thousand eleven cardinals are making that run. There was like a Sunday game against the rams the rams out drew the cardinals and the rams are awful in two thousand eleven as you pointed out earlier the the support was there. And that's the thing. I think that really bothers people people. It's like wait a minute now. This team was supported at one point. They had the worst five-year run in the history of the League. And it's still selling out that that kind of stuff needs to be told and I don't think it has been told and that's what frustrates a lot of people. And I think the rams would like to say well the dorm experience a terrible dome was terrible and it was not a great football experience but when you had a really good team nobody noticed. Dick for meal talked about that. First playoff game against the vikings he said known Isaac's going down in straight up and looking at the video board watching himself run on waving the noodles in the crowd. Any said I've never seen anything like it loudest place or seen. The building was just fine when the team was good everywhere and so that narrative narrative also I agree. It wasn't a great football experience so the team had to be good for you to be really excited about going down there and then by the last year and a half the specter factor them. Leaving 'cause a lot of people not to go at all I think that's the main thing is tell the story the way it was told. This is the rams organization with them off on our station. Say we're going to London for you. Know a couple of games here and the people that well. Why are you going to be great for everybody like why is it now? I was told him but it was at least twice the revenue for a game. They would try. Were there so it made financial sense but again just tell the truth and say listen. This is a big win for us and we can do a little more with that money or whatever but it to say this is exciting. Saint Louis was what finally wise. Why is exciting? Here's to find a question in as I mentioned before you're still tied in with some of the folks out in La that were here in Saint Louis and Yeah less so than ever but yeah What do you think the the end result is with this lawsuit and what happens with all the different things that are pending right now with that? I think there'll be a settlement settlement and I didn't think early on. I thought it would just get swatted away in the NFL and their powerful lawyers did the city of Saint Louis. Those lawyers are going to settle. I don't know man I I think they wanna take this thing maybe to the end. Yeah I think it's going to be a couple of years by then we'll be at the UH SDN studios yes we will and the high rise downtown sandwich elite I just feel like it'll like these guys these billionaires they don't end up in court they don't end up to pose. I mean I'd love to see all of that. I just have a feeling that there might be a number. They get to they say all right they made him sweat. They pissed them off and then they finally had to write a big check. If Stan personally right it in the League says standing to settle he'll give you one hundred million then they might leave the low end. Yeah I don't know but I just I do think it'll be a settlement at some point but that's going to be a couple more years I bet. Just drag it out as a fan or you said football you just like whatever I'm I'm over it you know I'm over it. I'm not sad I I do miss the building the thing I loved about the NFL Sports Guy Covering it was the bill. I love the game being Sunday. And it's always talked about and went crazy and on Monday go. What were they thinking? This is the worst call ever and about wins ego. WHO's coming it down? Oh the Ravens. Oh they got zone Joensuu and you really had this build up to who they're going to match up against and we had a lot to really good shows. I think that pre game shows and we break it down a lot of great eight people even like Lovey Smith. When he was on the Mike Martz staff would come on our pre game? Show you know our plus before the game and the NFL. Nobody's available on a game day. Yeah and and he told me he said Martin. I want to get better at doing interviews and being on TV. He knew what he wanted to be was a head coach and part of it is media and we had a a lot of fun. I mean travel. I was thinking to Bryan Burwell. You know five year anniversary of him passing. We did a lot of shows from the road. So there's still a lot of great memories mixed in there. Yeah but but I'd say in my over it. Yeah it doesn't keep me up at night right. I'm not on. Dan was what bidder slightly better. I'm probably ambivalent at this point. I think for the station. It was lost at least a million dollars a year Fox to he's added riot. What I was told is loosely? The number of the impact. Well that's the other thing too. The the the tentacles of an organization city. It's not just a pride in the things that go on with it. In the fact that the avid team but the jobs and the charities that they supported noted that are just gone boom. Snap of a finger audios and even the players that were here that were involved in charities that were making millions of dollars and then in had pet causes not pets but maybe some but had charitable causes they believed so you lose that base every guy. Who's on the team? That's quarterback and he makes five million and he gets involved with your charity or the running gags ten minute he gets involved. You lose that I mean and those are the lawsuit. But that's part of the disappointment. Sure Hey this is fun do we read. We did read some mail I. I'm obsessed with the male. Dan Lewis had a bunch of male common had a bunch of emails. I should have done that but this guy reached out to me and and mail in twitter and I thought I need to do that. One in I did cover a lot of what the questions were that were coming in so yeah I think it's a fascinating story in the fact that there will be told I think in full especially if if the lawsuit is settled. Then at that point you say if you're a reporter you're saying and I also said five minutes ago this the final thing but if you're a reporter you say well why did you settle a lawsuit. What was in it and why you know in you dig it up and then all of a I said when that comes up at least for me I would feel better? I as a Saint Louis Guy if people knew what the hell happened here that would make me feel much which better over the situation still bring football back but at least it brings some of the pride back in. I don't know prides I worked. I have pride but I just I'm from here. We didn't do anything wrong. It was saddled with a bad time bad lease stupid lease and a bad owner the worst in sports he is the absolute absolute worst and it was a terrible combination and unfortunately it happened right here and I think if you need any more validation you look over at Arsenal and those fans I tell you they they are more than anybody in the US. So he'll I mean they over there we've had guys on the radio to who were British that follow this closely. That are just irate. That he owns their team and again back to the bottom line. Being the most important thing it's written about in the London tabloids money is Trent taken out of there and sent to Kroenke sports enterprises enterprise or whatever the wording is yeah and they go crazy say no no no spend invest in the team and I know he spends money on the team but they have to lead a fan once they have a lot more angst anger over crock yards. So that if you say no no this is not just little Saint Louis. Violence are over themselves. Now this is a pretty bad aren't just ask the folks over in London. Hey this is fine. We'll do it again next week. If this is the cliff. Klavan am I am. I am and your cliff. Why do I have to be clicked? I can't be Sam Malone on. Yeah Okay Dan you know I mean welcoming everybody to the scoops empire. I'm Sam McLaughlin your pseudonym on the road. I'M GONNA call the team hotel tell. Is there a Sam McLaughlin there. There's a lot of guys on the road. A little different names WanNa know what Dan's is. It's Dan McLaughlin and nobody's looking four. No no one bothers me. I don't get the an Caesar Sedan. You good to see a Lotta guys. A lot of guys put their you know. Put It on the phone or are listed as a different name but this day aging to say. I don't want any phone calls because the people trying to get a hold anyway or call my cell phone. So that's your you're right. You can't get through because doing the Tony Talk many times. He's at the hotel with tax. And we'd say you know ruin the desolate. Well who are you looking looking for room four. Oh to Tony Rusen hold on. He was no ma'am. I WanNa talk to him. Hey pick up. We're in several a text to answer your phone. We're calling I. I got one final question all right if I was to ask Tony The reuss in your tone God's I walked into this. This is good and Hey Tony Tony. How are you guys midler? Today it's kind of a dumb question. Dan Well I always ask you anyway but you in you and I been through that. That's even though I'm not managing anymore. I'm still obsessed with us and that's how it answer. Tony I go okay. Tell me. We'll play the game. You know I was just talking with Martin and killed Kilcoyne Guy. From Channel Two SCOOPS HOUDINI MAC dot com is a dumb ass. Go ahead He was curious your thoughts. They were just talking about the rams and you around the Rams had little success little down little ups and downs of failure. You used to mingle with the coaches some of the players They're they're kind of fired up about this ram situation. What do you think this is? Tough dog is things. Keep things from California venture go back so so. I know that I end but hold on Tony but you went to Boston and much of your time was spent on the East Coast are on the road with the Red Sox. Correct me if I'm wrong. No I disagree why he's at because that's the way I want it okay. Well let's get back to the original question as as a tough outbreak so religious sports town but sometimes Dan what's that phrase it hits happen with the little S. inverted They just it just happened. So I mean I really WanNa pick sides you know. I'm really more Patriots Fan. Really you and Bella checker still that close. Yeah Yeah I mean stutter. What kind of things do you have in common That's vibrant personalities More than anything lively breast conference. I mean you really do homework by Dave Jim. Hayes would interview On a post game or if he would have a one on one with Bill Belichick how do you think that would go Well about Jim Really affair because I didn't like him but is that right. I thought you guys got along. Okay all but he changed. His name came to the cat so he just did that to get to me. I can't be mean to a cat. Yeah so I had no choice. House are going great. Thank you a lot of great programs. Working to vets. We got a lot of great. Get Online are F- Dot Net Final question if I may Tony already over You're he you're doing a podcast. I heard a lot this summer with with Martin Kilcoyne Two part question really number one. Did you enjoy it. And and your thoughts on how Martin the handle it. Should I have to say so. You're now I think he's really brilliant and right just looking back on it. I got paid aide so he was really. I just think underrated smart guy. You know to be honest. I don't know why you didn't do what you're doing a mets. I think it'd be really good checks clear for you Tony. Yeah Yeah so a lot of great stories credulity to check it out. You know friends at Tony. They talk about all the time. It's so unfair. But I was with Isaac last night so I'll be. His hair was fantastic. But I think people forget you know the deep purple drummer and that's not token when he comes the ballpark. And that's a big deal. So I appreciate any sarcasm. Tony and Martin thank you again. I I just think this a really talented guy you got you can just hand microphone back to Martin. I appreciate it. I'm probably GONNA get a Texas. I'm guessing Tony it'll be downloading the entire back. I think we're safe all right. Although he would listen I will say listen to the segments back. Yeah Yeah and he would have me email them and say what did we cover hover. We want to write down so he he didn't want to repeat it stories. I love this is fun. I Lo- I love Tony. All Elbow said the invitation is not that good in. It's all in in good. Could good intentions. Well if you have a question for Tony of the Dan Scoops with daily Mac Dot Com. I'll bring it up next week. Thank you Martin. Thank you Dan.

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