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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

03:57 min | 11 months ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Games. Over a hundred yards multiple touchdown so Slowing down is going to be key. So i'm putting the finger at troll admits for guy that needs a big big game absolutely. I saw that in your article. That ran on thursday for on behind the curtain dot com. Some good sighting steel gates tweeted that out of espn incredible work by waller. Let's talk about him quickly before we get to our game picks it. How if you're a football guy. You're collegiate coach whether you told you offensive line or not. You clearly know about the game of football. If you were defensive coach of any magnitude how are you. Schematically trying to take wallet. Let let me rephrase. I put waller in with a digs. Just like you antonio brown in his prime. You can't stop them. You just wanna slow him down. How are you doing it for the if you're the pittsburgh steelers defensive coordinator so thankfully. The raiders. have a bunch of injuries that we briefly touched on so kennel steelers played a little bit little bit easier in their kind of perspective on depending on what side he lines up on. I would like to have a devon bush. Joe schober kind of shadow him i just depending on what side he lines up on depending on the linebacker that follows him around but then also have a safety over the top. Probably trela admins in this case to let me. It's patrick roman. Who do his thing just being able to have. A two bracket coverage him is going to be key tackling him before he can get rumbling. Basically the key. This one here is we know. Dare carlos throwing the ball out of got nineteen targets and one which i believe leads the entire. Nfl for target. So he's gonna get a healthy dose of the bull his way regardless And he has a six seven frames. Who's going to catch the ball we. We don't have anyone in defense that can cover some new six foot seven it and run with down the field so he's going to catch the ball. The trick is getting him down. Second hands Limiting him to less than ten yards per target. That's that's to be the game plan. Just don't let him beach. Over-the-top going long runs amick mitchell to tackle him when he gets the ball in his hands and be the most you can knock it out of his hands a better but just with his frame and how talented he is. You know he's gonna get his. Oh getting him to the ground is the biggest key nineteen targets. I can't stress how crazy that number is in in the on week. One the steelers targeted deontay johnson. Ten times in some fans are thinking about. That's incredible nineteen times it's unbelievable. Let's talk about the steelers receiving options quickly which receiver and there's well let's pass catcher. Let me throw tight ends into the mix if you were to predate one. Pass catcher for the steelers. That's going to show out against the raiders who you got. This has got to be the week where one of the tight ends kind of explode just the way. The raiders. defense is kind of set up. There's some pretty decent quarterback play but the middle of defense at maybe. This'll be coming out. Party for pat that i think ben only him one time against the bills. I think this a game where you should get a healthy dose of the titans over the middle We know far music. Got to the greater percentage snaps. That tight tatum spot. So i would point to the big rookie. Your penn state having a big game but it really comes down to ben actually throwing the ball. And there's a conversation. Jeffrey benedict and i had no. You're gonna be the steelers. Have kind of get might help rob with having too many targets because it seems ben has to distribute the ball amongst what six people seven people He's got fear on his guys are gonna get the bulk of the targets so i think for the really deserves kind of a good look and a healthy dose of himself against the las vegas raters. Absolutely and i'm i'm gonna go and chase klay pool. I think the clip will prove going up. Overture davis white That really nice catch on the sideline against the bills really opened things up. I think they're gonna do that early and often. Look for chase cable. Have game now. Let's get to our game. Picks i have to recap last week in case you don't know this Others how many do we have here..

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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:04 min | 11 months ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"It's going to open up the run. That sounds counterintuitive. But that's how the steelers are going to have to approach. Defense is going to be aggressive. They're gonna load the boxing. We're going to take away. Your little dinky dunk passes and we're going to stop the run at the same time you're out to beat us down field if they can do that. Early najji harris. Ken break big place young. I definitely a definitely after watching. The raiders run defense last night. You know they gave up one hundred eighty nine yards to the ravens on the ground which granted lamar jackson. You know. plays a big factor in that. It'll be an interesting battle to see. The steelers are young. Upfront against the raiders. Offense raiders defensive. Line that at least for right now appears to be we against the run. The ratings do that to a lot of people very true very true. Yeah i i was twenty. I was reading an article about it. And i put like talking about the run defense and i'm like looking at him like yeah i mean i. I'm worried about it like you know. The raiders has never been a strength of them going back to last year. And you know to then see them. The another team had success at it but yeah the ravens are whole nother animal. But i am curious. You know after watching guys. Like yanni. Gok way max crosby Football is there a matchup. All you think that the raiders have an advantage of on the edge is out there the edges is where they're going to have the match ups when you think about who the steelers are deploying on the interior. You're talking about their strength is going to be trae. Turner right guard kevin dotson second-year player. It left guard in kendra green. Believe it or not is holding his own. Even those center round pick out of illinois at center but jupiter core for who is slated to be left tackle went back to his position. He played last season at right tackle. Dan moore junior fourth round. Pick rookie left tackle. He looked like a turnstile a couple times against buffalo. If they're going to attack the steelers it's going to be on the edges. That i just feel like that's where their weaknesses lie. You don't yes you can get pressure up the middle. I'm not saying that they're perfect in that area. But if the if there's a matchup issue it's going to be on the. It's going to be on the edge primarily against the rookie left tackle. But dan more improved a little bit in the second half. But it's yeah if you're looking for an advantage there it is awesome. I tell you what hopefully yanni gotcha stays healthy than. It's ready to go because it was fun to watch on. The raiders. Finally have a pass rush after about three years of of just crying over coolmax so i'm excited to hear you say that it might be facing. Some weak tackles next week. I'm excited now but yet sorry. Sorry for your your part map anyway. Let's all right. Let's flip sides sides of the ball here. The steelers defense topped bonds juggernaut. I'm just curious. How do you tak attack them. Like where have you seen. Teams have success against them. Obviously it's not very often but is there a weakness in this the defense yob yes yet to be very calculated with how you do it though. the steelers are elite in on defense. And i'm not saying that as a home or anyone that watches them play their talented from top to bottom and i actually would say they're. This defense is better than last year's and last year was a top three unit when you add devin bush back who towards acl. Early in the season you bring in joe schober good coverage Linebacker in the middle. You bring in melvin ingram Who is still wreaking havoc. At his age. I still can't believe you're just sitting there as a free agent known wanted him. Yeah alex highsmith second year. pass rusher. T. j. watt is a freak. We know that and he deserved. Every bit of that contract he earned the rotary clun. Yes In any of guys i came hayward who he gonna just goes under the radar but he dominates. I mean you go back. Don't want something fun watch. Go back and watch the steelers bills. Just go on the bills of the ball. Watch game hayward completely steamrolled offensive line. Heaves living in josh allens lab. It was fun to watch. But if you're going to attack this dealers defense you have to get him in sub packages and you actually want to run the football and that's not easy for a lot of teams to do you have two very talented offensive line. That can you don't need those extra blocker so if you can go to four or five wide forced the steelers into their dime. That's when they can be run on. They were run on in the waning minutes of the game against buffalo. I'm not really gonna count that as kind of garbage time but still in the past under teeth butler defensive coordinator. That's when the steelers have had issues getting those linebackers off the field. They bring in an extra defensive back they go light. You've if the steelers opponent whoever that is in this states the raiders if they can run the football in those packages. That's how you slow down the steelers by controlling the clock keeping the defense on the field. And you wear down the pass rush. Because that's their that's their calling card is getting after the quarterback. I mean you bring up a pass rusher. You brought up guys like nova england advertisements. So i'm kind of curious you know. Obviously probably the biggest subtraction are lost for the for pittsburgh defensive. Probably just raw has to be but depre- so i'm curious you know what are they kinda missing depre- in what are your thoughts on like. Melvin ingram now is heisman replaced replacements sounded pretty high on week one was any indication. The answer to your question about bud. Depre- what are they miss answers not much. I mean between ingram and highest midday. They were putting pressure on the quarterback end debris was a good player. I'm not here to to say anything bad about him. But those two guys in having the the trio of what ingram and in highsmith in they rotated them out so that everyone stayed fresh. It was something the steelers fans haven't seen. Because you always had watt depre- and even before that you had guys like lamar william james harrison. Joey porter clark. You always had those two book ends. Never three now. They have three. This is unique. And mike tomlin on tuesday even said that you might even see a situation where all three around the field at the same time. That would be exciting as a steeler fantasy. What they do in that package. We haven't seen it yet. But still melvin. Ingram has been in. Mike tomlin in training camp. Cottam a bully and he is. He was literally bullying the offensive line of the buffalo bills. Which isn't a bad line. By the way he's again at this steelers didn't blitz in buffalo. I think they've let's twice. And they were all over josh allen the entire game. They've got pressure with their front for like that. Was it but a year you bring up players lost in my opinion the player that they missed. The nose isn't bud. Debris is mike hill in the slot. Okay and mike hilton who went to cincinnati. He was a slide. Cornerback he was an unbelievable blitzer off the edge he knew how to time the blitz. I mean almost to perfection. They have not found that nickel cornerback. They disguised it in week. One with a rookie seventh round pick traynor would make if patrick played in the slot a little bit. They definitely mix things up in the slot. I don't think they have their answer. I don't think they will mike. Helton is probably the biggest loss dealers have had on that defense. Believe it or not so. I'm curious than you know as far as Attack in secondary no. I kind of think of the guys like joe haden makeup. It's patrick that you know maybe cover up some of the flaws out there that you're talking about so is there. A matchup in the secondary Raiders wide receivers to to sealers. Db's that you think might favor the raiders would be maybe a hundred renfro in the.

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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:35 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Coming at you with the report that the pittsburgh steelers have made a trade going into the twenty twenty one regular season. It is friday. September third when this trade is being reported. It was first reported by. Nfl networks in rappaport. the steelers are acquiring cornerback. A kello witherspoon. If i said his first name correct from the seattle seahawks now witherspoon has not played in the regular season with the seahawks. All he did was was signed with them in the off season and he played in a couple of preseason games this year for them and this is an before being traded to the steelers. We do not know exactly what the trade entails. We don't know what the steelers have given up. There is one thing that we actually do know that the steelers are given up their likely. Losing what would be projected fifth round compensatory draft pick from from this year because when you trade for a player that is that is a compensatory free agent that signed with someone else but you you get them via trade than they count into the formula. That's one one factor that that that's coming in. Let's just look at a little bit of what we know about witherspoon coming in. He spent four years with the san francisco forty niners. He was drafted by them in two thousand seventeen in the third round his rookie season. He wasn't active for the first four games but then came on came in and played for three games before starting the rest of the games for the rest of the regular season in two thousand eighteen. He actually played in fourteen games. Starting twelve of them but ended the season on injured review on injured reserve with a sprained knee and in two thousand nineteen he Witherspoon was actually inactive for a stretch during the middle of the regular season and in two thousand twenty. He missed a couple of games early on with a with a hamstring injury and then was inactive for three games in the middle of the season. Now those three games in the middle of the season was was basically due to what coach shanahan was saying a need for someone who contributed more on special teams to be to be active on game. Day that's he was a game day inactive for three weeks in there but then came back and played well so much so that if you are into pro football focus scores witherspoon actually had an eighty point two overall score and twenty twenty which was in the top five of quarterbacks last year and a great coverage score he is a player that has some experience playing inside also experienced playing outside. Not sure exactly what the steelers think they're going to be doing. They're much more of a coverage guy than someone who's like a a run defender or pass rush specialist. Didn't i mean. I think he had in his four year career. He's he's only had according to pf three plays where he where he rushed the passer. So that's that's not much so it's not like he's coming in to where he would be more like a mike hilton type of corner. Let's talk salary for a moment because granted it still. It's one o'clock on friday september. Third when this podcast is being recorded so we don't know the details yet but here's the salary implem- implications that we would see so far with the steelers because witherspoon signed a one year deal for four million dollars but two point five million was given as a signing bonus with at one point five million dollar base salary in a in a typical move. The team had signed him. They would be on on the books with a salary. Cap everything with that signing bonus. The only way that doesn't happen is if it's part of the deal for example when the steelers traded for for joe schober part of the deal was that the jaguars paid basically half his salary. I mean exactly half a salary when you everything into into consideration so therefore he counted much less for the steelers in the salary cap especially after they did a did a restructure. What's going on here. It all depends on the deal that it works. That they work out with the seahawks. If the steelers don't take on any of that signing bonus then you're talking one point five million dollar salary cap hit for twenty twenty one and he's also a free agent at the end of the year unless he works out a longer deal with the steelers. Don't know if that's something they would do now before the season but at the same time if he's also a player that that laughed after this year he would be a compensatory loss for the following. Year is is how that would go so. That's a little bit of what we know. Let me give you some stats. I'm gonna do my best to try to try to give you some of these some of these stats for for a kilo witherspoon. He plays played in forty seven regular season games. He started thirty three. Yes four career interceptions. Two of them came in his rookie year. He had one last year a nas at one in two thousand eighteen. That he returned for touchdown doesn't have any sacks. One hundred seventeen tackles in four seasons according to pro football reference and the the most he had was thirty seven in any one season. If you look at the at the advanced statistics when you're talking passing and coverage in twenty twenty he was targeted thirty. Two times with nineteen completions. That's a fifty nine point. Four percent completion rate. And that's actually the highest in the last three years because pro football reference only goes back three years with their with their advanced statistics because he was fifty five point. One completion percentage in two thousand eighteen fifty six point six and twenty thousand nine hundred fifty nine point. Four in twenty twenty so under sixty percent off three years did surrender was credited with surrounding touchdowns according to pro football reference only two and twenty twenty six and twenty nine thousand nine and seven and twenty eighteen The the biggest thing is. I was trying to find a little bit more. Pass pass defense. In his past defense he has twenty four passes defense in his four years. If you look some of these stats differ a little bit when you look at other places. Because they're all subjective and not official by the nfl if you look at Pro football focus and what they had. They had him surrendering three touchdowns last season on a second. I'm reading it backwards. I was. I was looking at the years in the wrong order. It was to last year and seven the year before so exactly how the steelers are going to implement him into in coverage will be interesting. He did not line up much in the slot last year. He only had three snaps in the slot but he had twenty snaps in twenty nineteen in two thousand eighteen. Each In in in the slot position just based on pro football focuses alignment that they had him credited for their so more than.

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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:21 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"All of training camp Last season was very. He had kinda hit or miss. You know you have some good games Early on in the season and the steelers kind of abandoned the wrong altogether but he hasn't been available this other training camp. You know they always say your best abilities your availability and he hasn't had that and so when you think about nausea harris and the way that mike tomlin and his offense is like us the running back he wanted to get all the carries until he literally need a break and so far in training camp. It's been anthony mcfarland second-year back to maryland. It's been getting the carry And then you had thrown kaelin balaj. Who's kind of a journeyman. Now is breaking several. Nfl team. he has been playing well. He's been getting rave reviews. Mike tomlin. i'm not sure. How many running backs. They're willing to keep it right now. Then he smells the odd man out into people wanna talk about you know projected yard i. I wouldn't expect much from benny's now if he makes it interesting. Jeff hartmann upon the cart and joining us here on pushing the odds so when you look at the defense obviously tj. Watts had just an incredible star to his nfl career. But who else has flashed here in training. Camp defensively pittsburgh. Well i mean. I think if you're looking at outside linebacker dalek. Highsmith your Last season he came in and looked good spelling depre- end or what he can rush from both sides and now this year everyone expected that big sophomore jump. And that's exactly what he has provided us for now granted. It's a small sample size and it's a preseason but in my opinion you can glean something from the preseason regards to you are dominant. Even if you're going up against the backup you're gonna make them look silly and that's exactly what he's done i think he's going to be an impact player. Everyone thinks you know was out free. How's that going to impact tj wide. I think. Alex is an melvin ingram. Let's not forget about him. He's healthy and looks really good. they're going to be able to counteract you know in in kind of place but the as a combination. I think the pass rush russia's still going to be unbelievable you you figure to it'll be back hayward Lulu upfront you. Throw in devon. Bush is going to be back at inside linebacker. They pick up. Joe schober the secondary look solid outside of the fact that you know steven delton spot is going to be vacated it. They're not sure what they're gonna do their In my hilton spot those spot. They're still in the secondary kind of up for grabs other than that. I think the defense could be better than last year. What concerns you on this roster. What part other than the offensive line is there. Another area that you're concerned about for the steelers. Yeah it's dead opposite corner of joe haden we know. Joe haden is joe haden and opposite him. You have to ask yourself. Who's gonna take that steven nelson role so they signed cam sutton to a two year contract this all season. They like what he brings extremely versatile former dime backer in south packages and now. They're not sure he's going to be the outside. Is he going to move in to the interior for the dime like he typically has. Who's gonna fill a nickel spot like the cornerback position. on i it's it's just a glaring concern right now on the defensive side of the ball i again. It's not so much that i think it's going to be a weakness or an achilles heel for dealers it's just it's just not decided yet and it's going to be one of those camp out. It's gonna go all the way through friday night when they go to carolina. Jeff you mentioned carolina on friday. The steelers are one of the two and the cowboys who will play the traditional or old traditional four preseason games this is number four for them on friday. Any idea what the plan is going to be. They're gonna play anybody of note on friday. I wouldn't be shocked if players like on the offensive line gets more repetitions together Someone exact enter that. I mentioned only played twelfth now in week. Three for the steelers. It's only week to the nfl. Preseason he played twelve snaps. Before coming out i would imagine they want to at least get him a couple here a couple of tries to get him reactivated But other than that. I wouldn't expect to see ben rothlisberger. I wouldn't expect to see a joe haden cam hayward and if it's patrick some of the other ones that have been given off the first two preseason games. I wouldn't expect it mike. Tomlin has been very mum on this. He's not willing to say then is going to be out or ben is going to play. He's he's always saying we're just gonna take a day at a time. You know the coach. So i'm not sure what's going to happen. I wouldn't bank on any starters playing if they do for very long friday night. Jeff the steelers have their bye week seven. Those first six games for the pittsburgh steelers one. How do you feel about in to. What's a realistic number of wins for pittsburgh in the first six with the first day everyone talks about the way this season end. I'm a feeler scheduled rightfully so it's kind of like a murderer fail to me. That just makes the first x that that much more important They have to play the six games. Well i would say that. They have to be foreign to at worst in my opinion after his first six. And that's not easy. It's a tough schedule this year. it it can be four and two at the by fans should be happy and then they should be ready to go for post by But then again steeler fans and he talked to bring off the bye at all. They're gonna talk about twenty twenty and other by got all screwed up because of the titans and they're gonna say well who goes of the by. We'll be so that's true too. But ultimately i think that foreign to three and three would be tough to come back from But you know what it you just never know. I mean i always point to last season with the dallas cowboys. That game in dallas is really going to be you know dak prescott versus dan rothlisburger. Well we know what happens with daqing completely changes so Looking at the schedule. I think that i have to take advantage of it. Baltimore minnesota tennessee. Kansas city cleveland. Baltimore is the last six that you're referencing. That's going to be really really hard if you go. Four and two at the top. How do they end the year in those final six games. Well the way that they've been ending seasons under the mike tomlin regime will ask teams and especially the way twenty twenty ended if they could just be five hundred zero six. I think that most dealers. And let's say you have that i like it. We'll take it and hopefully the rest of the season one good enough. But that's good enough for a playoff spot You know if you get better than five hundred. I think you're your clicking your heels and you're extremely happy but we all understand that fans and it's not going to be easy. That is a really really tough row. To hoe civil. It'd be interesting to see how that plays out. Jeff great stuff. They've coming on really appreciate your time..

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"joe schober" Discussed on Pushing the Odds with Matt Perrault

Pushing the Odds with Matt Perrault

04:21 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Pushing the Odds with Matt Perrault

"Throw in devon. Bush is going to be back at inside linebacker. They pick up. Joe schober the secondary look solid outside of the fact that you know steven delton spot is going to be vacated it. They're not sure what they're gonna do their In my hilton spot those spot. They're still in the secondary kind of up for grabs other than that. I think the defense could be better than last year. What concerns you on this roster. What part other than the offensive line is there. Another area that you're concerned about for the steelers. Yeah it's dead opposite corner of joe haden we know. Joe haden is joe haden and opposite him. You have to ask yourself. Who's gonna take that steven nelson role so they signed cam sutton to a two year contract this all season. They like what he brings extremely versatile former dime backer in south packages and now. They're not sure he's going to be the outside. Is he going to move in to the interior for the dime like he typically has. Who's gonna fill a nickel spot like the cornerback position. on i it's it's just a glaring concern right now on the defensive side of the ball i again. It's not so much that i think it's going to be a weakness or an achilles heel for dealers it's just it's just not decided yet and it's going to be one of those camp out. It's gonna go all the way through friday night when they go to carolina. Jeff you mentioned carolina on friday. The steelers are one of the two and the cowboys who will play the traditional or old traditional four preseason games this is number four for them on friday. Any idea what the plan is going to be. They're gonna play anybody of note on friday. I wouldn't be shocked if players like on the offensive line gets more repetitions together Someone exact enter that. I mentioned only played twelfth now in week. Three for the steelers. It's only week to the nfl. Preseason he played twelve snaps. Before coming out i would imagine they want to at least get him a couple here a couple of tries to get him reactivated But other than that. I wouldn't expect to see ben rothlisberger. I wouldn't expect to see a joe haden cam hayward and if it's patrick some of the other ones that have been given off the first two preseason games. I wouldn't expect it mike. Tomlin has been very mum on this. He's not willing to say then is going to be out or ben is going to play. He's he's always saying we're just gonna take a day at a time. You know the coach. So i'm not sure what's going to happen. I wouldn't bank on any starters playing if they do for very long friday night. Jeff the steelers have their bye week seven. Those first six games for the pittsburgh steelers one. How do you feel about in to. What's a realistic number of wins for pittsburgh in the first six with the first day everyone talks about the way this season end. I'm a feeler scheduled rightfully so it's kind of like a murderer fail to me. That just makes the first x that that much more important They have to play the six games. Well i would say that. They have to be foreign to at worst in my opinion after his first six. And that's not easy. It's a tough schedule this year. it it can be four and two at the by fans should be happy and then they should be ready to go for post by But then again steeler fans and he talked to bring off the bye at all. They're gonna talk about twenty twenty and other by got all screwed up because of the titans and they're gonna say well who goes of the by. We'll be so that's true too..

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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:08 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"The pittsburgh steelers played their third preseason games the twenty twenty one season their first at heinz field. And the first one to see almost all of the starters play today we will look at what the steelers showed us and their matchup against the lions both the good and the bad. I'm your host jeffrey benedict. Welcome to the cutting room floor. An last week show talked a lot about the inside linebackers then at heinz field this week we got to see devon bush and new steeler joe schober play together for the first time as a pairing. They showed promise but also showed that they need more time than bush still needs time to get back fully from his injury and get up to. Nfl speed joe. Schober needs time to get accustomed to his defense to the steelers defense and his new teammates. Bush looked a little rusty. Like you would expect. He had a few plays where he approached a gap in the run game wrong. At least one time. He overran a play shumpert for his part. Look slow on his reactions and his assignment something you expect when a player is thinking about their role on a given play what their assignment is instead of. Just being able reaction la- relax employees. These are things that are going to work themselves out. These two guys need time. Need time in the steelers defense and they need time together. They're going to be all right. Now in bush and schober off the field they were replaced by roberts poulain and marcus allen those who played the rest of the game that was the steelers played. Four linebackers devin bush. Joe show bert roberts lane and marcus allen buddy. Johnson didn't play on defense at all. He only played on special teams where he does has looked good and he made a tackle in that game. Roberts spelane looks like he's locked down the job of the number three linebacker after you know. We thought he was going to be the number two guy. He's moved back to number three with the addition of schober. And i like him a lot better in that number three linebacker role. Marcus allen looked good. He has looked a lot better than he looked last season in this. Preseason he's really good in coverage on running backs and tight ends and even when he's thrown on a a you know a depth wide receiver. He's looked good He also has improved at hud. Blitzing where the steelers you know if you're on the running back especially if you're on the running back and the running backstays into block the is covering them turns into a blitzer and adds into the pass rush. Marcus allen is looking good there we saw him with a couple of pressures and with half a sack in this game. I think marcus. Allen is leading the battle to be the number for linebacker over buddy johnson over any of the camp bodies over anybody else. I think it's right now. It's devon bush. And joe schober is your starters. You've got roberts splaine as your number three linebacker and i think marcus allen is really solidified his hold on the number four linebacker spot and that pushes buddy johnson to number five on the linebacker list. Now the steelers generally keep four to five inside linebackers and forty-five outside linebackers for usually right around nine linebackers. Total is what they keep and that fifth the fifth at each position either position. Normally you've got you've got four outside linebackers four inside linebackers and then usually you get one more either outside or inside linebacker. Who's mostly gonna play special teams now with buddy johnson being fourth round. Pick and frankly he's looked good. He's looked talented. He shows a lot of promise he's just also showed he may not be ready for. Nfl snaps right now. But he's not. He's not ready to be a player. You rely on marcus. Allen roberts plane. They're ready. they're ready to be that player. So while buddy. Johnson really isn't one of the top four inside linebackers. He's a fourth round. Pick who shown promise. He's playing on special teams. He's playing while he had a special teams tackle against the detroit. Lions i think buddy johnson makes squad as the number five linebacker with a bit of a redshirt season. because i mean he's a fourth round. Pick any looks good and he looks like what you want to be like next year. He could be an upgrade on both splaine and marcus allen the way he looks right now he just needs experience he needs that seasoned to learn to grow. By the end of the season he could be moved up into a higher tier. The right now. He's not there by his promise. Says you can't really let him go. Which means for me. Seals are keeping five inside linebackers. They almost have to you. Can't you can't send your number four linebacker off the team. you're not. you're not cutting marcus allen. You're not cutting robert spelane. You're gonna keep them. You're going to have to keep buddy johnson too. What stands out to me. In that is we're now looking at if we're keeping five inside linebackers. We're only likely to keep four outside linebackers and three of those are set. Tj what's gonna comeback at some point. They're going to pay him. He's going to be he's going to be back playing for the steelers. Not just practicing by himself. Alexander smith has looked. Phenomenal and melvin. Ingram is a lock. He's our number three guy and he looked really good against the lions which is also allow the steelers to ease. tj white back in if he sits out most of the preseason you know if he misses if he misses the whole season they can still eat him in to game action. Because they have melvin ingram behind those three why highsmith in ingram the steelers have two young edge rushers who are competing and playing well in jamir jones and quincy roce. Now the buddy johnson marcus allen situation. Where really buddy. Johnson's almost locked to make this team as the number five inside linebacker in his all night opinion guys. This is what i'm seeing film. And this is what. I'm picking out from the roster not i don't have insider information here. I'm not claiming what the steelers are going to do. This is just how i when i look at it. This is what i see is. You can't let marcus allen. Go you're not let roberts bolongo buddy johnson. You've got to keep it right you. The ceo's almost half to keep five inside linebackers the.

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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:04 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"He's better at that are so for me what we're looking at. What steelers debt. As they got an upgrade on roberts blame when it comes to play down and being run stopper they got an upgrade roberts filleting in terms of calling plays and knowing the defense and adjusting to what the at you and they got a guy who can cover and maybe blitz. There's gonna be some interesting things were that we're going to have to see play out like for example. Joe schober was on a terrible defense. Was he targeted less. Because the guys around him were worse than so he was just not the easiest guy to pick on right or roberts. Blame was often hey who he had a target. You're gonna target that backup guy who's never played. Who has you know before last season had exactly one snap on defense and his career so yet he got targeted more are are you gonna see where maybe joe schubert in this defense puts up better stats you know per target. Maybe he gives up fewer completions and so his yards per target. Go down in this year. Maybe we see joe. Schubert is actually a really good blitzer and his his rush percentage in his pressure rates. Go up or maybe we see. That's not a strength of his. And roberts blaine is just a better blitzer. That joe schober. Who knows there are some leeway here that we're gonna have to find out we're going to feel out how schober fit specifically in this defense. Statistically wise like what his productions going to be as he changes roles from from. You know the jacksonville defense to this defense. But really if you watch film. He's very similar to robert splaine. So what you saw the good of robert spilling last year with a little better run stuffing That's what i expect from. Joe schubert this year which is great. That's an upgrade. That's a that's a great addition especially for the for the cost. They got him for so two round out the show into our last little segment here on go through the last rest of the position. We spent a lot of time. Joe show burton inside linebackers. How he fits in devon bush gonna be your number one linebacker if he's healthy. You know there's a chance to steelers really are trying to limit his snaps early in the season because he's not one hundred percent yet i would understand the case or if they just say hey you know what we're we're going to give you a little break. You played a ton last season or give fewer snaps. But he's your number one linebacker eastern over one linebacker show. Joe shelbert is good and coverage but there's people out there saying he's better than david bush coverage in that's just simply not true. Film does not back that up numbers. No back that up. It's just it's not true Joe showers can be number two and he's playing a lot. He's gonna play a lot. He is a veteran of the group. He's going to be that you know the the voice in the helmet. He's gonna be the guy with the green dot he's going to be calling the defense colin adjustments which is good. We need someone who's really good at that. We haven't had someone who's really phenomenal. At that sense james farrior. He might be the best at it. Sense james farrior left and that would be a significant addition to our defense in no other way. is joe schubert. The equivalent of james farrior. That wanted to be clear to say that in case people here that wrong thing. I'm saying joe schober is that good. He's not a but he's going to be the best. Probably you know that that calling captaining the defense. The james farrior dick from a linebacker position. He's probably be the best sense. James farrer left that we have doing that specific job behind him. Roberts he's he's like joe schober and i would not be surprised if they wanna give joe schober to a break. You know it would be probably like in nickel. Where roberts billion really fits in. Well roberts plays a great fit in the nickel defense At at inside linebacker. I would not be surprised to see him there where he can add his blitzing to the pile. Then you have some interesting players behind there. You've got ulysses gilbert the third. You've got marcus allen. And you've got buddy johnson buddy johnson the rookie draft. He looks good. He is more of a thumper he's going to be that guy who can who can mix it up in line take on blockers stuff to run. He's not bad in coverage either at least at the level he's playing now which is kind of the second to third string Players for the other team is what he's been facing and he's shown pretty. Well they're ulysses gilbert. The third loved what he showed as a rookie Loved it his first preseason. He looked dynamic. He got injured. He's a series of injuries. And he has he hasn't really developed and in fact this season you know. I'm still looking for him to get back to looking like that player. He looked like when the steelers had just drafted more. He looked so impressive. I don't know maybe his injuries means he's never going to get back to that ply being that player right now. He's in a battle with marcus allen. Just make this roster bush over explain are gonna make it a buddy. Johnson is is going to be very hard to knock out simply because he is a rookie and he is looking. Really good. Just not quite. Nfl for snaps on defense radhi. He looks like a guy that next year could really take a huge second year. Leap marcus allen. Played really good in very limited snaps against philadelphia. He is not anyone you want to take on a blocker. He is just get swallowed up by blocks but in space and particularly Like a dime back role where he is taking on where he's in coverage on linebackers and coverage in zone. He's really good. He showed some fantastic aggressive defense on running backs against philadelphia When he was in there against a pretty good rookie gain well for For for philadelphia. Who's a good receiver. he did a fantastic job manned up on him really fantastic work. He knows the defense. He's he's got the the i q side down..

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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:59 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Same were the players involved and their personalities and how they on the team and all that stuff are involved a you can just sit there and look at their fit They would have been better off switching. Vince williams and joe schubert because joe chauve is a better fit in my opinion to be next to devin bush whereas what they wanted was more of a vince williams next two miles jack. So that gives you an idea. Why joe schubert is a great pickup for the dealers but also not the biggest loss for the jaguars because he didn't fit what they needed. So who is joe. Show over whether let's let's take a look at it real quick right Job has played a lot. He's been to a pro bowl and he's good across the board. There's not a lot of weaknesses when you look at his physical profile right when you look at his size his speed agility if you go back to the combine and look at those numbers. He's remarkably similar to roberts fillet. He's the same height they're roughly the same speed agility He's he was bigger. Then spelane coming out. When roberts plane came out of college he basically really needed hit an nfl weight room. And he'd right. So the difference. Between shelbert and roberts d'alene physically and their athleticism is very small schober. It's a bit heavier on his frame. Still i believe now than than Robert spelane is and that helps him in the run defense when you look at his film and you look at his stats. He reminds me of robert splaine. Just a little stouter against the run partly because he's a little bigger right if you look at their coverage stacks even if you look at their coverage stats from last season okay. Schober played a lot more then. Spelane did He was on the field for five hundred coverage snaps. Okay all this just just a disclaimer. All of these all these stats come from sports info info solutions Through their data hub tool. It's a free tool on the web. You can look that up but Joe show was on the field for five hundred coverage snaps where he wasn't rushing right where he was in coverage he was talking to forty. Two times gave twenty eight completions. Two hundred ninety three yards Came away with three interceptions. And one defended pass roberts blame played significantly less. He was on the field for one hundred. Fifty eight coverage snaps was targeted. Twenty three times gave up ten completions. For one hundred seventy yards had one interception three defended passes. Okay what does that mean. Well we can start with Robbers lane was targeted. Fourteen point six percent of his time on the field. Joe schubert eight point four percent us lane only gave up four point six five yards per target whereas joe shelbert gave up six point. Nine seven They both gave up right around ten yards per completion Splaine just had a much. Lower completion percentage against the shelbert dead. If you combine all of that you look at the non of yards. They gave up per cover. Snap roberts plane is point. Six seven yards cover. Snap joe schober is point. Five nine a little difference not ally there And spelane got two more passes went his way. He had one interception in roughly one third the snaps that joe schober got three but explain defended three other passes whereas joe schubert got to three hundred options and only defended so he both defended four passes. Which means blaine had a much. Higher percentage of targets that went his way that he enter the he. He broke up that he actually defected. Another part of splaine game that is considered one of his best attributes is his blitzing right. He does the. Ceo's call hug blitzing where he's on a linebacker that light or he's where he's a linebacker covering running back in man that running backstays in the block. He transitions into a blitzer. It's also the steelers deal with play action if you watch a play. Action pass and roberts is made up on the running back the minute. It looks like a play act like it looks like iran. He is charging that running back. He's going right for him and when he sees at the play action pass. He's still going for that running back. He's still going and they have to break off into coverage if the runningback changes routes Or if the running back turns to like help block someone else you blitz the quarterback if they turn him block you. Then you're match. You know you try. Beat him in and get in there. But that is how the steelers negate extra blockers when you keep an extra blockers to help block. T. j. watt cameron heyward steph onto it by debris alex smith when when you keep an extra guys to block those guys roberts blamed roberts d'alene rushed on fifteen point one percent of pass coverage of a pass plays. He was in on and he had an impressive. I mean ridiculously impressive. Forty two point nine percent treasury. That's incredible when he did a hug. Litz when he was that guy adding onto the blitz. he got pressure schober last year. rushed around eight percent of past about the past place and had a really good twenty three point three percent pressure rate. That's good splaine's better. So in coverage shelbert is a more proven a more reliable guy. The roberts spelane but if you look at joe schober and you look at roberts fling when he before his injury when he was playing his best. Football of two thousand twenty. You're talking about a very similar player. You're getting a very similar player again. Joe show bert is proven. He's done this year in year out and you may have heard The seals are talking about him wearing the green dot calling the defense. He's that guy that you want calling the defense before like. Oh does that mean devon bush. No it just means. This guy is better at devon bush than that specific skill. call the defense colin adjustment. Seen what the offense is doing. He's better than devon bush at that specific skill and really if he's better than he should do it right. Whoever's the best at it should do it if he's better than bush at that then yeah don't why would you have bush do it. Just because you're like oh bush was are. He's our number one linebacker. Well he's still our number one linebacker. Just joe chauffeur's gonna call the defense.

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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:41 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Of the cutting room floor. First half we went over. What we we did an update on players. I talked about in a previous episode and we discussed a bit about the inside linebacker position in coverage. And how we're going to judge. Preseason basic basically saying. Don't judge devon bush and roberts bullying too harshly for how they played in philadelphia inside linebackers put in situations where they are on an island with athletic tight ends or wide receivers are going to get the they are going to be the mismatch on the field. That's that's not how the defense works in actual games. So now we're going to talk about the inside linebacker position and we're going to start with the big news the dropped during the preseason game at philadelphia and that is the steelers. Acquisition of joe schubert If you if you don't know that the steelers traded sixth round pick. Jacksonville is paying half of his salary for the season and he also redid his contract. Move some money around If you if you want to know all the details of that goto behind the curtain dot com. David dave scofield Those great articles on that he does a great job breaking down how those contracts workout and how they impact team in the salary cap and all of that stuff but basically for less than two million dollars on the salary cap this season which is a tiny hit and a sixth round. Pick next year. The steelers got joe schober for this season. If they wanna keep him after the season there he's got some pretty big numbers is numbers are not small so Yeah it's it's. He's unlikely to be a long term solution unless he is really just that good that they said okay. He's he's worth paying. You know eight million. I think it is for twenty twenty two so for the steelers. Getting joe shelbert. And when you look at the deal people are saying well. Kevin colbert just absolutely flees the jacksonville jaguars on this deal and we wanna look at that. Because oftentimes when it's like whoa. How did we get a guy for this cheap. You end up finding out you know what you got him that cheap because he's just not that good or or you know your your overvaluing them you know. Maybe it's not just the other team undervaluing him. Maybe you're overvaluing him. So let's give why he went to jacksonville. invited fit. Jacksonville has a linebacker miles. Jack who's of top athletes absolute stud in his athleticism and he's also a really good coverage linebacker and he's good at running. Hit football what. He's not great at is taking on blocks and run stuffing. If you can force the play outside he's gonna write him down if you can you know if he's in coverage he's he's incredible really good linebacker in coverage so the jacksonville jaguars are looking at this. We need to pick up a run stop. We need a guy next to him that can take on. Those ron stuffing abilities while still being able you know to be in coverage some and so they went and grabbed joe. Schubert who with the browns had had really good numbers for high tackles tackles for loss. The great you know Pf grades against the run and it was also in coverage. They paid him a big contract to be the guy next to miles. Jack who will allow miles jack to play strengths and really come into his own and be a top tier linebacker. What they found is that they did not get the player. They thought they were getting Basically job is not that run. Stuffer that you know the thing. Vince williams. He's not vince williams. He's not that dude is going to be like. Yeah you know i'm gonna. I'm gonna take on offensive lineman of beat them in the run game. I'm going to stuff a fullback in the whole get off of him and tackle your running back in the backfield for loss. That's vince williams. Right joe schober. Not that dude. He's much better in coverage than than than williams was and he's good run in run defense but he's not a run stuffer. He is not a guy who's going to free up mile jack to not have to to really worry about you. Know taking on blockers of being that guy in the run game so he didn't work out there and he had a big contract and basically the way it was up. There was a lot of guaranteed money for this season. You know when the new the new people came in took over the team. New coaches new systems. Everything you've got a lotta money locked into this player this season that you can't get out from under next season a season after that. His car pay is big enough and he's not worth it to that team. That has now suddenly young. He's not the guy. They thought they were trying. They were trying to get next two miles jack so basically they were going to cut him. He's gone either way. He's gone after this season. And so they were able to dump half of that money onto the steelers and get rid of him okay. That's basically what they did. They dump the player and dumped half. The salary on the steelers wasn't a great move for them. But it's understandable. Now what he brings to the steelers talk about this way all right. So he wasn't the guy they wanted next two miles jack. Let's compare miles. Jacket devon bush and for the sake of argument I'm just gonna let you just consider them to be roughly equal in overall talent. Blessed miles jack is is kind of like eighty percent coverage focus. Twenty percent run defense right. He's guy you wanting coverage every play and not really run defense ever whereas devon bushes closer to balance. He's he's really good and coverage but he's not miles jack level right. He's really good. But he's better against the ryan the miles jackass so even if if we consider the two of them even jaclyn miles jack would be the better coverage guy. Devin bush would be closer to balanced and better at run stuffing than miles jackass. Meanwhile the steelers had a guy. Like vince williams. Who if you're gonna if you're gonna do that. Same kind of percentile breakdown of run versus coverage on defense versus coverage. Vince ways would be like eighty or higher percent. Run defense and twenty percent or less in coverage While joe shelbert is more balanced so basically if before last season both teams had been smart. This has been like a madden kind of franchise..

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"joe schober" Discussed on The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

07:36 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

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Yes ten twelve pacific standard time so one one three three three eastern okay. One two three eastern i. Well we're going to get to nail meal sokha. We're gonna talk about her first some more. Nfl talk and you know we've been talking all day about the rookies and who look good and whatnot. Let's focus in on trevor lawrence and jacksonville because you said that the team looks really bad so far this is going to be detrimental that stump his growth. Cj if if you know what. I mean if the offensive line's not good if they don't have good players. Is this going to be a work in progress. Or somehow they're going to surprise the world and win the division. They're not gonna to win the division. That i i believe. That's going to go to the indianapolis colts or tennessee. Titans i i think that's obvious to anyone that watches football the jags. They're just you know they're fighting uphill man and they had the first pick for a reason and trevor lawrence is going to help that franchise in the future but they had the number one pick because they were an overall bad football team just traded joe schober to the steelers wanted better defensive players and so there for sure fighting uphill they. They need players in need a lot of good players. Trevor lawrence will do as part but it's not gonna be enough to quarterback they take too much blame with things go bad and they get way too much of the credit when things go. Well that's for sure and the nfl. That's one of the biggest things. It's like a quarterback who won a super bowl without thrown a touchdown and then he gets all the credit and cameras on him after the game. That i mentioned tom brady. And the aram okay. I'm sorry i'm just saying no question. I should have known it was coming with really sad at tj. Your way back gets gets way too much credit right. Shouldn't defense give credit. Sometimes you know what it is. It's this what happens right. They lose the game. He doesn't have enough help. Man offensive line didn't block receivers can get open and then when you get that help. It's all man. Did you see on my hair. Just throwing lasers in receiver in and they don't even bring up the receivers making great catches. They don't bring up oftentimes line protecting like his life. Depends on it. And that's that's just the nature of the beast. The media has created put the quarterbacks on a pedestal. Because you can't win without one but football is the ultimate team sport. It's the ultimate team sport. It's eleven guys that relying on ten other players. Those guys right. You can't anything without him. I my right and major away when you on when you up to play up to the plate right. Tj to hit. You know what. I made you against the pitcher. Those other guys playing. But that had nothing to do with you and before you could be great receiver and if the quarterback didn't have enough time to get you the ball. You won't get matters of doesn't matter greatest quarterback but if you don't have time with row and your receivers can't catch it. Does it matter not so that. That's why football is the best game in the world. Because it's the ultimate team. Sport you reliant on your teammate to do his job and you're not checking the see doing it you just know he's gonna do it and vice versa. And so snug like man. Isn't that never be a game like it again in. It's not like nba. Get a bottle of brian. Or kevin durant. Sega doesn't work that way in. Nfl right so so. Are you expecting so seventeen game schedule. Gimme a jacksonville. Your feel for them. Do you have any feel for. Are they seven and ten is worse than that. Six and eleven. Are they closer to five hundred. How much can a star rookie quarterback and even know urban meyer. A legendary college coach and had a lot of success is a big difference in the nfl. We've seen.

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"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:23 min | 1 year ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"During the steelers. Preseason game against the philadelphia eagles. But it's official now. Joe schober was at practice on sunday and he was there's a lot to decipher into diagnose with this acquisition in a lot of questions and so the question on the table is what does joe schober mean to the steelers. Twenty twenty one defense. What does he bring. well i broke. Cindy two categories the knowns and the and so we're going to break those down in the were also at the end towards the end of the show. We're going to talk about predictions myself. Dais go days not gonna join me but he gave me his list. We're going to predict 'cause people forget this tuesday. This is a new role in the nfl every week in the preseason they cut players down one at a time like five by five by five until eventually cut down to fifty three so this tuesday by four pm. The steelers have to release their list of players who have been cut in. We are to have to cut five guys. We are going to predict who those five players are. I've already seen the list. They're very different. I'll get to explain myself. Dave maybe a little bit but not so much and we'll see who's right and who's wrong. We'll see i don't know but let's get back to schober. That's what everyone probably wants to hear about. They wanna hear me talk about the fact that this is now a known commodity. We're no longer talking about reports. Were talking about a trade that happened. We know details about the trade in of itself so the pittsburgh steelers sent a sixth round. Twenty twenty two. Nfl draft pick to the jacksonville jaguars for schober in just on that. Just that alone. A lot of steeler fans rightfully so. We're thinking this is a really good deal. Good deal for the pittsburgh steelers in then and i even tweeted this out on my own you can go to j hartman h. a. r. t. underscore. Pita if you wanna follow me on twitter. I was driving home on friday. And i'm listening to the pat mcafee show on sirius. Xm radio and he had ian rappaport on ian rapoport was asked about this trade in rappaport said that as of now we meaning the insiders. The nfl insiders. The rappaport solicit rose the jeremy fowler's etc we have not heard of the jaguars picking up any of show birds actual contractors. That was rumored early on schober was owed seven point three million dollars this year from jacksonville and there were rumors that the pittsburgh steelers were getting. Help that jacksonville was going to give them help. It is now being reported by several different sources that the jacksonville jaguars indeed picked up about half of show birds. Twenty twenty one salary in the steelers were able to convert the rest of that early majority of that salary into a signing for schubert which decreases cap had even more. We don't know exact numbers just yet but as of right now. It is estimated that he's not going to cost them very much money towards this twenty twenty one salary cap good news for the steelers and it just makes the new even better so when you're talking about how the majority of steeler fans heard this all while the steals only had to give up a six round pick in two thousand twenty two for jobs you can come in and possibly start right away. Great move then you find out that the jaguars are going to be picking up some of the bill all my gosh even better news. Now just so. We're all clear. Let's keep this in mind when we talk about the twenty twenty two. Nfl draft. Michael beck road. This article for the website. The other day. I want to reiterate here in the audio platform. The pittsburgh steelers have already traded away three picks from the two thousand twenty two. Nfl draft. So we know that. He sent a fourth round. Pick to the miami dolphins in novels when they treated back into the fifth round to get isaiah louder. Milk outta wisconsin. They send a six round. Pick to jacksonville. You santa citron picked jacksonville and then they also traded a seventh round. Pick to the new york jets when they got avery williamson the one good news and the good thing here to keep in mind. Is it so far right now as we sit here right now and i spoke with dave scofield about this. The projected competence compensatory draft picks for twenty twenty two have has the steelers receiving a third and a fifth when you think about while they could have two third round picks. They could have to fifth round picks. Sure they don't have a fourth but they have that extra pit they can always move around. They can make some trades but they traded a lot of their second day three picks away. If you're someone that values those picks you're going to be kind of depressed. I'm not one of those people. I'm more of the people that say. Hey i want more day. One day two bakes. Do what you gotta do make it happen so far. They've done that unless the picks don't come back the way. they're projecting. the steelers should be just fine. If you're worried about the draft picks in the future should be just fine but let's talk about schober. I wanna talk about before we go into our first break. I want to talk about the fact that there are certain aspects of joe. Schubert's game that knowns. They're not a mystery they're not. Oh my gosh. What is this going to locally housing. They're unknowns occasion. We need to talk about these in in factual a factual stance meaning. I'm not saying why wonder if or what are they going to do. What's this going to look like. No these are things that we already know. So the first is that he is a veteran. He is played in the national football league for six years. And it just so happens. He said this after practice when he met with media on sunday that he has played for six years and he has been in six different defensive schemes during that time period that is. It's it's really horrible. When you think about what a player has to go through you never have the continuity of knowing the system and coming in and only having to learn the new wrinkles and additions that they put in but it also makes him extremely knowledgeable. He has gone from three four schemes to four three schemes to different responsibilities to me. This known factor that he is a veteran. I don't need to look at tackles and sacks in pass breakups that doesn't matter. He's a veteran and he knows the game a football. He's been around the block. I guarantee you when he came into practice on sunday on saturday by the way he just couldn't practice so he was meeting with keith. Butler and jerry olsavsky. Hey in talking with a lot of players. There's probably situations where in jacksonville maybe they called a blitz or a coverage jet coverage jet dog. I don't care. We co everyone but in pittsburgh they might call it blue zone. I'm just making up words here. People you know what i'm talking about though is just a matter of terminology. It's just a matter of them saying okay. I know what joe schubert. I've done this before i did this. In cleveland i did this in jacksonville. And he's able to just mentally work through the process faster faster than someone. That's like a rookie. Who's coming from four years at a college in they're not running pro schemes in terminologies. Totally do knew. The playbook is totally new. This is a known in a benefit of having someone like. Joe schubert on your roster. He's also really athletic. When you see pictures of my saw someone on twitter is pretty funny. They said schober looks like the dad of one of the players. He's yes he he doesn't..

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"joe schober" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

01:49 min | 2 years ago

"joe schober" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"Browns star for the fight at the end of last night's game with the Steelers Cleveland Browns defensive lineman miles Garrett calling his actions a terrible mistake in a statement apologizing to Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Mason road off for striking him in the head with his helmet in a brawl near the end of Thursday night's game Garrett's teammate Joe Schober spoke with SiriusXM NFL radio Friday saying the team is standing by the former first overall pick we have to take a take the consequences on the chin and we are going to do that way I can make it before then I come into this for him he's not going to use the from self care now suspended indefinitely for the remainder of the season he won't be reinstated until meeting with commissioner Roger Goodell says the Browns defensive lineman partnership with adidas is up in the air the apparel company telling fox news they're looking into the events that occurred during Thursday's game man apartado fox news a third consecutive California governor blocking parole for a follower of Charles Manson governor Gavin Newsom reversed a parole recommendation for Bruce Davis now seventy seven for the nineteen sixty nine slayings of musician Gary Hinman and stuntman Donald Shorty Shea it was the sixth time Davis was recommended for parole but blocked by a governor Davis was not involved in the more notorious killings of actress Sharon Tate and six others that same year pearl panels have repeatedly decided Davis is no longer a public safety risk citing his age and good behavior but like its predecessors Newsome said Davis remains too dangerous to be free research suggests YouTube trailer views can predict how well filled us in theaters independent to tracking website box office report analyzing YouTube views of official movie trailer pages and fandango movieclips over the last two two years comparing them to fill the ticket sales opening weekend the data suggest YouTube may be better at determining how well the film will do in theaters in studio reviews ox krystin Goodwin Marvel's Avengers end game the most viewed trailer history according to The Hollywood Reporter with two hundred eighty nine.

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"joe schober" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

02:14 min | 2 years ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

"They overloaded one side on balance both will tight ends the Steelers did this come to the right when they do that the brown gold over for what that means is only a two guys and one back or to the weak side it's so you have a man for man it's a great opportunity running the schools do that the one week and have a nice pick up seven or the first shot gun second in three for the Steelers lost hand off its Connor planters foot and gets dropped with the line of scrimmage Sheldon Richardson was a war and Connor in Richardson exchanged words as Conor popped off the ground in Richardson laid on its thirty three a little bit of wrestling down there and neither guy likes it it starts with so the rich and try to push Connors often wants nothing to do with it but good job by the fish is not enough to throw a flag to separate them three receiver set to to the right one to the left turn to Smith used to buy himself to the left of the model for the formation really seven open the Steelers face of thirty three and take twenty six your want to leave got to step on the Christian religion and not enough on it it is in the direction of the okay Johnson incomplete pressure from Joe Schober and Rudolph had to get rid of it the brown during heavy blitz team in the third in medium down and distance as third for there to put up two backers of both a gap in this time Schober comes off the sun out outside office of right engine bull rushes the running back right into the lap of Rudolph in his arm gets his your time throw response will be for your attendees connection of the season eighteen of nineteen the kid is screwed to the left duration scene from the Snapple candidate to the whole the very it took a while there was a bit of a joke there was a good thing it was a bottle by the holder didn't get it down please it was off to the side and then a little bit of a shake what Davos dealers do not put points on the board and Cleveland is got a.

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"joe schober" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

01:30 min | 3 years ago

"joe schober" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

"This is the most wonderful time of the year the NFL is underway MLB playoffs have started and NHL hockey is back. it also marks the season when Americans be guns begin storing all their fat for the winter. mostly in their necks Sean in Ottawa. we don't hibernate we don't store fat. not next fat not backs fat not gotten fat. not as fat. we don't store fat for the winter which is naturally fat. well maybe not naturally fat which is fat. your Vance mac transgression will regret that mistake for the rest of his life Sinai ray we're grading the time he accidentally sent that telegraph to his boss instead of his girlfriend Mike actually not I ray. sent a telegram to his boss instead of his girlfriend I never got a telegrapher Mike nor any note from Pony Express. there is not that old. not young. it is not that old not telegraph old. why when we come back. I did spend the entire open on that game last night believe it or not I've got a lot more to get to. Joe Schober joins me next. they say hello to Casper mislead company with outrageously comfortable products to help everybody sleep and live better from award winning mattresses.

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"joe schober" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

02:26 min | 3 years ago

"joe schober" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"The building tonight watching his rams take on the Cleveland Browns with your father and his call for the squad profiled as well yeah I saw a poor with Paul Warfield down on the field before the game or for a long time my dad in a long time you with the Cleveland Browns all favor. golf on first down floats it'll it'll catch is made by brand cooks of the forty yard line voters up the right side of midfield and the Browns territory the forty nine twenty four yard pick up before Joe Schober can catch up with Brandon cooks to bring him down a last on the ram said the ball they got the run game going a little bit with Todd Gurley than the play actually started come off for that night time another naked that's an open receiver Brandin cooks force down instead of the forty nine. early the single back two receivers left single wide right off under center this time it gives to girly starts the left side then jump cuts it back to the right down to the forty four yard line diving forward for five at the end of the place and it's second down and five you know one of the keys of this game for the Browns will talk about it beginning of the game was they had to dominate the Middle poor of this rams offense of line and now they're not doing that show Richardson we haven't mentioned his name at all good job we we haven't talked about him give credit to Brian our center the Ramseys door nice job second in five of the forty four girly again the single back golf again under center golf shirts gives the girly went right now back to the left side the runs right into the waiting arms of Deborah Lawrence the first your band from Auburn. low man wanted Lawrence was the low man on that tackle bringing girly down to forty one. third down and now for the rams. the girly has been active tonight thirty eight of the forty seven staff what that question with Todd Gurley once he help feed only average sixteen touches of the last nineteen games. thirty two at the forty one empty backfield now golf. moves girly to the slot left side on thirty two with the forty one shop and snap Browns rush three offense time throwing all the build up to the twenty five yard line and Cooper cut down to the twenty words first down for the rams they pick up twenty one on thirty two thousand I believe will throw right there third do you think they're going to run the ball you know just to play it safe. golf.

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"joe schober" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

03:57 min | 3 years ago

"joe schober" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"I don't need to see UCF and Michigan in Washington. And I'm watching these games. Why don't I want to see Alabama crushed three teams instead of just one? I don't wanna watch Alabama blow somebody they let Oklahoma Twenty-eight nothing. What would they lead Washington UCF? Michigan. We gotta get do you want sports to be on the NFL's king because a regular season matters and the play offs matter and the Super Bowl matters. That's why the NFL surpassed the NBA in baseball regular seasons. Too. Many games playoffs. Too many teams than the finals are good college. Football needs less of everything. Fewer teams going to bulls. Fewer bulls not eight but just four maybe two teams in the playoffs. Short. A catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not AM Pacific with that. We go to senior NFL reporter Monday morning quarterback. Former patriot beat writer at the globe Albert Breyer via the coward global. Satellite network. Let's start with Antonio Brown yesterday. Big Ben kind of threw him under the bus said, you know, I call text doesn't return it. So to the team mates, obviously, big bands got his own drama and things here that are tough sometimes to put your arms around one of the Steelers do with AB are they trapped with his contract Albert, this is a complicated. One because they they love his work ethic. I mean, I talked to somebody in the building yesterday said this guy is the hardest worker on the team and its by such a wide margin. I don't even know what was number two. The flip side is that you don't know what you're getting on a day-to-day basis. I don't think they'd trade him. I think they view this as part and parcel to who he's been over. The course of the last few years, obviously this happening during week seventeen. It's not ideal. They know exactly what set him off. And so whether or not they can manage it going forward. We'll see. But I certainly think the value he has the Steelers is greater than the value. They get out there for him. Zinc. A lot of teams look at this and say, you know, what he's a great player, but at the price tag, it is age on everything and do it. It's just not worth it for us to go down that road. Okay. Jetson Cleveland having opening I'm going to go old school Mike McCarthy's winning coach. Everybody bailed on Andy Reid. And he's now the number one seed in the AFC, I'm not convinced that big twelve coaches coordinators. Everybody all these hotshots, and I got. Nothing against cliff kings, adding he's very clever. He'll do very well. At UCF stays give me your thought process on the jets and Cleveland with darnold Baker. They need to get it. Right. Yeah. They both have great opportunity because this is one of those rare situations where you've got young quarterbacks on rookie deals, and so if you're in competition for coach you can sell that to that coach. And so if Mike McCarthy's out there, you know in the New York Jets are in competition with say the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to to get Mike McCarthy they can say to Mike McCarthy. Hey, we've got Sam darnold. Donald do. We have Sam darnold at twenty one years old. We have him for the next three years on a rookie contract. And we have one hundred billion dollars to spend. So you can have play a big part making up the team around him. I think with the Browns it it's more than just Baker Mayfield. I think it's the makeup of the entire team. And they're in a critical juncture with a lot of their young players, right? They probably have more under twenty-six town than anyone in the NFL. All right now, go down the list Myles Garrett low Larry ogan Jobe Joe Schober Denzel award Djibril peppers Jarvis Landry. There are a lot of good young players on that team. Nick, Chubb, David Joe coup, they want to teach her, and so that's why I would not be surprised if they go and get one of these big time program leaders from the college level, you're not going to hear a lot about it until it happens, and maybe they strike out on them. But again, you know, the name I've continued to hear connected to that one is Iowa State coach Matt Matt Campbell. And so thinking one case you're looking for a guy who's running NFL program and can be grown up in the room. That's the jets because you've got so much work to do on building the roster..

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"joe schober" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

03:46 min | 3 years ago

"joe schober" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"Okay. Jetson Cleveland having opening I'm going to go old school Mike McCarthy's a winning coach. Everybody bailed on Andy Reid. And he's now the number one seed in the AFC, I'm not convinced that big twelve coaches coordinators everybody all these hot shots, and I got nothing against cliff kings, branding, he's very clever. He'll do very well. At UCF stays give me your thought process on the jets in Cleveland with darnold Baker. They need to get it. Right. Yeah. They both have great opportunity because this is one of those rare situations where you've got young quarterbacks on rookie deals, and so if you're in competition for coach you can sell. All that to that coach. And so if Mike McCarthy's out there, you know in the New York Jets are in competition with say the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to to get Mike McCarthy they can say to Mike McCarthy. Hey, we've got Sam darnold. Donald do. We have Sam darnold at twenty one years old. We have him for the next three years on a rookie contract. And we have one hundred billion dollars to spend. So you can have play a big part making up the team around him. I think with the Browns it it's more than just Baker Mayfield. I think it's the makeup of the entire team. And they're in a critical juncture with a lot of their young players, right? They probably have more under twenty-six talent than anyone in the NFL right now. Go down the list Myles Garrett low Larry ogan Jobe Joe Schober, Denzel award Djibril peppers Jarvis Landry. There are a lot of good young players on that team. Nick, Chubb, David Joe coup they to teach her, and so that's why I would not be surprised if they go and get one of these big time program leaders from the college level, you're not going to hear a lot about it until it happens. And maybe. They strike out on them. But again, you know, the name I've continued to hear connected to that one is Iowa State coach Matt Matt Campbell. And so thinking one case you're looking for a guy who's running NFL program and can be grown up in the room. That's the jets because you've got so much work to do on building the roster. I think in Cleveland a lot of the infrastructures already in place, which will give you the opportunity to bring in a guy in project a guy into the role guy. Who's a good teacher and has some experience building appropriate was a story this morning that comes out speaking of diva wide receiver Odell Beckham junior who increasingly looks a little fragile. We know he's gifted there's talk the Niners would be interested. Which is interesting considering the pushback with Antonio Brown that you know, the diva wide receivers had a bad month in this league. Dea by the giants are looking to move Odell for the right pieces. I think the giants have earn a position right now where they need capital to go again go and get a quarterback whether it's this year next year. And so I. Think they have to look at all their options to to build a war chest. So they go on strike if they do like Dwayne Haskins or Daniel Jones or one of the quarterbacks this year, or if they need to build that war chest for the future. So they have the sort of capital in twenty twenty to go and get a Jake from or to a Tunga below or Justin Herbert. And so I the next couple years are all about finding the next guy there and go del Beckham is one of the most valuable assets they have on that roster, and he's even more valuable now than he was a year ago because you have him signed for the next few years, and people don't think about this piece of it, Colin the market for non quarterbacks changed after Odell Beckham signed his deal when Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald did their deals and so the numbers for L Beckham, it looks expensive now and a year or two it's not gonna look so expensive anymore. And so I think they look at oakdale Beckham is a potential chip a guy that you could move where you say to yourself over going to have a young quarterback in here. And it might take a year to for us to get back up on our. Feet. What is owed L Beckham realistically going to have left when that young quarterback is really ready to play in all pro level..

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