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"joe lockhart" Discussed on Slate's The Gist
"The explicit nature of the show. but i'll just tint that you know what you're in for making this an implicit explicit. It's friday january twenty second twenty twenty one from slate at the gist. I might ask. Senate will take up the articles of impeachment four trial on a timetable decided by chuck schumer with some input from one assumes president biden putting want them to interfere with all else he has to do or undo senate minority leader. Mitch mcconnell was saying hey wait until february and schumer said february's fine but not too far in february eighth schumer explained his thinking on the floor of the senate today. I've been speaking to the republican leader about the timing and duration of the trial. But make no mistake. A trial will be held in the united states. Senate and there will be a vote whether to convict the president the ex-president so make one mistake. I guess the question of whether to try the president and win is largely argued on moral or emotional grounds. But i really think it has to be calculated on intellectual grounds. Does he deserve the trial and the possible punishment of disqualification from office. Oh yes very much so going to say a lot more than that but will or maybe when will a trial run down to the benefit of the democrats which i don't really care about per se. But since they were the only ones pushing a sensible agenda to combat covid and all the other things as kennedy would did say you have to think about an impeachment trial and if it could hurt the overall agenda. This entire thing is a cold calculation on trying to maximize the politics of the moment to get. This vital agenda passed. So i guess. I've just given the intellectual calculation. Will it work won't work a little bit of emotional valence. If you wanna think of it this way. I sometimes think an ask myself. How much or even did the last impeachment help. The democrats did think it helped in one way. In fact this way necessitated the impeachment. Get to that in a second but remember the impeachment non-conviction it just never came up in a debate. Never came up on. The trail was never cited as evidence to possibly convince one voter. Who is able to be convinced which might have been just one voter. You could argue. In fact plausibly that impeachment plus the not guilty verdict back in twenty nine thousand nine actually gave trump the gift of citing it as an example of persecution actually emboldened trump tact even worse. I personally don't by that. I mean it's true. Trump did side at often as an example of persecution and he did act worse but not because of the impeachment vote. He's an incorrigible and incorrigibles. Aren't going to be dissuaded. By anything than actual force or force of law and so. Here's the one way. That impeachment did help the democrats it quelled. What would have been a riot among democrats to not have. Impeached would have broken the party. So pelosi impeach party was placated and everyone could go ahead and never once mentioned the results of it on the campaign trail this time around. Have a matrix. I do actually do jotting down some notes. I have on one quadrant trial plus conviction that i have trial plus no conviction then i have no trial which of course means no conviction and xed out that last box because there's no such thing as no trial but conviction we dwell on the quadrant of trial plus conviction which to my mind is pure upside. It would be great if trump were banned and disqualified from holding office again. But you have to think of the trial plus no conviction part. What are the upsides. What are the downsides one. No trial the democrats just bringing the articles. What would happen then. Tried to plot some things out. I realized that. I have no firm inclination this time around last time i was so sure and it was true that there would be no conviction. I thought wouldn't help the democrats. But i kinda thought they had to go through with it. Anyway that's seems to have been what happened this time trying to make up my mind. I do think we're going to get a trial pretty clear about that. I don't think we're going to get a conviction and when that happens. I kind of think it won't change much about politics but you know i could be wrong. Luckily i'm not just relying on my instincts my inclination. I am fact-finding. And that is why. I've invited our guest joe lockhart on the show to talk about these things with after that. I will spiel as i do. I am want to do on the gist. I will spiel imagining a country. That embraced masks. But first he is a former clinton advisor and spokesman for the white house. Joe lockhart is here to talk.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on How The Heck Are We Gonna Get Along
"That The in the long term. I think We will remain a two party system and we'll have fringe parties. The patriot party will be a fringe party. Kind of like the. You know the george wallace party of nineteen sixty eight and the the two parties will be the republican party which will look a lot like the moderate democratic party now and then you'll have the progressive party that is going to look a lot. Like what bernie sanders and Aoc our democratic socialism. And i i don't use the word. The way republicans do which is You know a much stronger. Safety democrat moving to the republican party. To because it's i that's right that's and and and and it won't be called the republican party. I think you you know the labels will change. But the there's there is no stopping the progressive movement among demographics in this country. You know i think donald trump got. I can't remember the number but it's something twenty two or twenty three percent of people under thirty not. They're not all of a sudden gonna decide. They're against gay marriage when they turn forty or they're not all of a sudden gonna decide that they think climate change is a hoax when they turned forty five. You know it's so we are good. We are becoming more progressive and the parties will have to adjust. So i think you know the what's left of trumpism and the.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on How The Heck Are We Gonna Get Along
"Destroyed by fox and the right way. She's ends news. And you know and fox fox was in an untenable position. They could move to the middle or further right. They've moved further to the right to outflank. Go in and newsmax So it's is an open question And you know the the the what What makes me optimistic is is is biden his The best suited To be president right now What makes me pessimistic is He may not be able to do it. Joe you're making me feel better well at you know. But the fact of the matter is can't then. Our system is fundamentally and Terminally broken and we will to realign our parties and politics You know that if republicans can figure out and get their head around the fact that the country is changing demographically And they need to appeal to different groups except for high school educated non college educated whites and you become you know true conservatives again but you know with with hence progressivism then. We'll have a strong two party system but if they follow the path that they have been on since ninety since two thousand tan of manipulating the system and doing everything they can to hold on to power to keep that grip on sort of you know white rule in this country And minority rule in this country There's the system is going to overwhelm eventually. Well you know what that's it's a. It's a perfect segue. I know we don't have you for a minute or two longer. But i wanna we do ask our listeners to send in questions. We do fire round of questions. We didn't have as much time to get them for you this week because it was a busy week but we did have a few come in frank from bridgeport connecticut asks does the patriot party. Have a chance or will it. Just guarantee democrats the next three elections and you're talking about the system Frank is curious about whether or not this is going to be a third party option all of a sudden. Well we talk about a third party all the time and it never comes to pass on the other hand. I don't think we've ever seen a party as divided. Has the republican party is now. I think if you look in the nineteen seventies and eighties. The democratic party had divide not quite as sharp And you know one of the things. That bill clinton will get credit for in history is bringing the party back to the center and making it electable nationally again well. I don't have to tell you in the nineties. You had a pretty strong third party candidate in. Ross perot got an. He didn't win electoral votes but he certainly made a made a dent in the percentages and and he was not quite as strong personality. Donald trump is so leading if the the fact of the matter. Kind of the transformational presidencies Involved third parties. Ronald reagan was elected in large part because there was a strong third party candidate. Bill clinton was elected by and large because it was a strong third party candidate So i don't. I don't diminish the importance of these third parties. I'm talking about. Institutionally i mean will we have you know congressional candidates in every congressional district. Will you have three choices. Most of the time instead of two. And you know my guess. Is.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on How The Heck Are We Gonna Get Along
"That The his his party the democrats in congress. are supported and their views are reflected So if he went out and said we shouldn't have a trial that would undercut the majority of his party. So it is. It is in the end good policy and you know bill clinton used to always say that good policies always good politics and in this case Good politics Can lead to good policy You know sort of the democrats to go do their thing on the hill however he feels about it. is important because he needs them He needs them to get behind his agenda to get things done. And that's i mean that's to me that's in the within the parameters of what is normal acceptable politics as opposed to what we saw over the last four years. Who's going to be his bigger problem in congress. Do you think it's going to be the right or the left. Those who i mean he. He's someone who's known as a dealmaker right and someone who wants to work across the aisle assume he gets ten conservatives ten republicans to side with him on a particular issue. Does he lose more democrats for that. I mean we are. We have become so polarized. Who do you think he's gonna have bigger more trouble with the mitch. Mcconnells of the world or the afc's it. This is where i think. There is a parallel to The clinton administration and the answer is it depends on the issue. It's a one week. It's going to be with progressive democrats. One week it's going to be with you. Know very conservative republicans. See it when. I say it depends on take trade Biden's a free trader. He supported The tpp trans-pacific partnership Most progressives don't support that most republicans do and you know this is where you put the country citrus. I and try to managing her way where you can get a majority because you think it's right And say to your party when when there are people now with you i. I'm with you most of the time. But i'm not with you here You know it's the the difference and know at some point we're going to have to stop comparing everything back to donald trump but the the primary difference here is biden has a set of ideas that he believes her good for the country. Trump had a set of ideas that he thought were good for trump. And that's the difference so the politics trump was playing was by definition Destructive because he didn't care about the right the politics i think biden will play and manage at the end of the day are about what's good for the country and you know politics is politics. That isn't going to change. It's not you can't you. You can't take the approach of. I have the best idea. And if you don't think it's the best idea you know. I'm not moving on this because you know it's i'm the smartest person in the room and we'll we'll just wait to the midterms and that's that's not how it works that way one. I won't compare them to trump anymore. We'll step past that and then we'll go back a little further because what what you were just saying at the in there about not not necessarily wanting to negotiate as much feeling. You're the smartest person in the room. It cetera sounds a little bit more like the person right before trump. And i'm sitting here as you're talking and thinking okay. Let's go back to president obama. He was not necessarily known for his outreach to congress he had his reasons i think he was a wonderful president but that was not necessarily his strength. George w bush a didn't reach out the congress that much and beat it to because he had his party in control of it for a good portion. I go back all the way to to when you were in the white house with president clinton and president clinton was probably the last president. We had.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on How The Heck Are We Gonna Get Along
"Hope that people who were watching her speak and as at listening to her would understand okay. She can't quite say specifically what the president plans to do when it comes to iran. Because they're like us that they're moving parts here and she has to be circumspect with how she expresses that there are times when it like the dance. I don't buy it because one other question. She had trouble with not say she had trouble with but one other question that she didn't quite answer directly last night was about the president's position or feelings when when it comes to the senate impeachment trial whether it should be how the president president trump former president trump should be hand held accountable In the senate how president biden feels about the progress when the trouser start etc and she sort of acted. She sorta gave the answer. That you know he's going. Leave that up to the house. And the senate joe nobody in america buying that president biden doesn't have an opinion on that i mean seriously he's got an opinion. So what's the do i was the reason i answered so i don't want to pretend to know the i'm gonna i'm gonna pretend i know the answer and i and you know it's what makes the job heart is there's often crosswinds and conflicting Agendas i think again in my heart of hearts i think joe biden would say i don't ever want to hear the name. Donald trump again. We don't need to try him. We don't need to You know let's just move forward. That's what he wants on the other hand. The people who got joe biden elected want him on on trump. they want him on a spin And for again for good reason. So i think you know and i in that answer. I think she accurately and that's her job. Where joe biden this. Which was i am not going to be the cheerleader for this. Because i'm not sure. I don't want it to get in the way of my agenda on the other hand. This was really serious stuff and i. I'm not going to dismiss you. Know what eighty one million people think that i. I didn't get here by myself. i got here. Because they put their faith in me And you know. I think his view is again. Her job is to reflect his views. I'm just going to stay out of this. Doesn't that that win it started. I mean everything you just said. And i don't know joe biden like you do. Just pretend i think i know. But that's why he got elected to because we all have so many of us believe that we kind of see his heart like that. And i think what you just said is exactly what i imagined the job. The joe biden. Immagination is thinking two but isn't there a point where you just say that of spinning i mean is that is that sort of parsing words carefully choosing a how we present this so that we don't really upset either side is not kind of why people don't like politicians i mean isn't that the antithesis of what we need now is people.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on How The Heck Are We Gonna Get Along
"Is authentic to him. That's what he's. I've known him for thirty years. I that's who he is A times he's pollyannaish but That the the word i wrote for the speech was that it was authentic. It was just pure joe biden and those are the best speech you know. I went into it myself thinking. Gosh we need a. We need to ask not type line and we didn't get one of those soaring rhetorical flourishes necessarily but after it was over. I thought but you know what this is. Sort of exactly what the country needed right now. We didn't need some soaring rhetoric. We just needed someone to shoot straight and it felt like that to me. No we you know. We occasionally right soaring lines for bill clinton back in the day and he didn't like soaring lines. They didn't work for him. He liked to tell stories And you know. The punchline does not necessarily ask what you do for your country. It's you know he likes to explain. Things had bio obama was a soaring guy. He could you know he could build you up and make you weep But that's not by and it wouldn't have worked for him right did you. Did you get a chance to watch the press briefing last night with jentzsch. Did i did. Jan jan is a good friend of mine. So i was I sent her an oath. Basically said i think i was more nervous for you than you were. She certainly did not seem nervous. I mean jen. Psaki is w well. I know where i know her. Well for the first five minutes. I could tell but After the second question you could you could watch her. She's got a lot of experience. She briefed through the state year. She did campaign beyond gesture campaign stuff. i mean there's nothing quite like.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on How The Heck Are We Gonna Get Along
"Do you hear it. it silence you saying. Oh yes i hear it too. I have missed it after four years of relative chaos and rabble-rousing from the white house. The news over the past few days has been well. President trump called it. It's been relatively boring after fifty years in public service and three attempt at the presidency. Joe biden was sworn in at noon on wednesday and almost immediately he began. What's it called again governing right by eight pm. On wednesday evening president biden had recommitted the us to the paris climate accord's reversed several aggressive anti immigration policies extended the moratorium on evictions and foreclosures and released an exhaustive and detailed plan for combating the cova crisis and yet still the only sound out of the biden administration was the voice of white house. Press secretary jen psaki. She delivered the first regularly scheduled. White house press briefings since march twenty nineteen. I mean what is even considered normal anymore. I'm play can and this week. Politic on welcomes an expert in white house operations and communications. Someone who truly understands how to get a sense of calm in the midst of chaos. Joe lockhart was the white house press secretary for president bill clinton as an expert on presidential messaging and tone. I'll ask him. How did president biden. Do in his inauguration address how should president biden handled former president trump. and how should the media and jala heck are we going to get along low. Joe how are you. it's clay good. I am i'm well. Don't you feel like a sense of i mean. Is it weird to not have to worry about. What's on the news right now it's You know it is a You know it's like losing a limb. I can still feel the itch. you can't scratch. Yeah you're you're like you know it's the pain is still there but you can't see anymore and it's just gonna take a while i think for everyone decompress And i think biden is smart. Stay really busy because It's going to take the reporters allowed to readjust to someone who's not up there you know spouting nonsense everyday. It's like i said somebody yesterday afternoon. It's almost like not to make things about me. But when i ran for office i remembered the day after the election when i had lost. I woke up thinking well. hell now. what do i do. and it's almost like. It feels a little bit like that that you know twitter marriage no reason to check it. Headman reason to check twitter and a while the news. I don't feel like. I need to refresh every ten minutes to see what horrible thing may be happening. There seems to be like there's an adult or four in the room that are handling things. And and i'm just i mean i was a joe biden supporter have been for years. I've loved joe biden for years. But i feel like he.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on Words Matter
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Trump and his physician deny he had "mini-strokes"
"The president's tweets today regarding his health again, he says this was driven by Joe Lockhart Bill Clinton's old press secretary speculating about strokes and the president saying, no, no series of mini strokes apparently in the last thirty minutes or so he's tweeted again. On this subject. So he's really through his tweets amplified whatever lockhart was saying there you've had statements from the White House on this today can you shed any light about what's going on there as the matter of health on one hand, but there's just a matter of what is going on in the White House right now when it comes to this subject. This is purely driven by the president. The president as we discussed earlier had a trip to Kenosha that his team believes was a good trip in a good message for him in he overshadowed as he often does that trip that message by becoming obsessed with something that was not even on Cable News that was basically that was not reported it was not in. Michael Schmitz very good book but the idea of mini strokes was not in the book was a single tweet by a former press secretary under Bill Clinton. The president he got obsessed with it. He had his White House. Put out a statement from his physician. He tweeted about it again he's the one who purely injected in into the media today and it's also Worth noting there's more than a little hypocrisy complaining about speculation of of his health speculation about someone's helping you're not medical doctors of course irresponsible. But that is exactly what president trump did in two thousand, sixteen about Hillary Clinton in it's exactly what he's doing this time about Vice President Joe Biden. So you're seeing here a president who doesn't seem to be able to. Handle, a dose of his own medicine
"joe lockhart" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"My name is next and then On the teenager who was defamed by the media after an encounter with a group of protesters on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. Last year, I learned what was happening to me had a name was called being canceled canceled. It's what's happening to people around this country who refused to be silenced By the far left. Many are being fired, humiliated or even threatened and often Media is a willing participant was a sand man. Hey, same sand Man examined last night Republican National Convention Night number two. Course he's the teenager. He mentioned it at the Lincoln Memorial. There was a confrontation between him and this is the Native American. Fake Military activist Nathan Phillips, Guys, a complete scumbag, and there were also also some other crazy lunatic protesters there at the Lincoln Memorial, and just, you know, the media completely misrepresented what was going on between Nick Sand man and this thing. This Nathan Phillips guy had a drum in his face, and Nathan Phelps was looking at him like smiling. And everybody you know was all this eight vitriol because Sandman was marrying a make America great Again Hat, right? And you had every news network, with the exception of Fox and one America, ripping this kid, calling him a white supremacist, calling him a racist, threatening violence against him because he had a smirk on his face. Everybody from Bill Maher to Elissa Molano to CNN all ripped on this, dude. So what did he do? He lawyered up and he beat the Washington Post. He beat CNN, and last night he appeared on CNN wearing that Maga hat and it was beautiful. Victory for the sand man last night. Good for him. I mean, not the most dynamic speaker. That was one of the things I was worried about. Would it be that it was maybe a little slow, But I think he got his message across the land. And the message was when I got to take this canceled culture anymore. I didn't do anything wrong. And you remember they were. It wasn't only Sandman. I mean, there were other. There were people calling for Doc's ing of all those students that he was standing at the Lincoln Memorial with that the confrontation right that disgusting. Ah, display of humanity by people that had really no idea or context for what actually happened or what went on. I think because he wasn't you know. Dynamic speaker. I think it actually played out better. Maybe because normalized right? He looks like everybody's normal kid in the neighborhood, right? Maybe he looks or acts like your son or your nephew or somebody that you know somebody that's not a trained politician. I didn't expect him to go up there and go full Guilfoyle and scream and throw his hands up in the air. But this is a normal high school kid who was Being just taken to the wood shed by major cable news networks, TV host celebrities and mohr and for him to stand there, you know? Looking like victory on CNN, knowing that they had to pay him in the settlement. It was absolutely beautiful, Undisclosed settlement, By the way, I mean, we heard reports that he sued for what? 250 mil, right. I don't know how much you got CNN settled, They settled, Um and CNN's Joe Lockhart. He is one of their analysts on CNN. Joe Lockhart. He put this tweet out last night quote. I'm watching tonight because it's important. But I don't have to watch this snot nose entitled Kid from Kentucky. So you take that you take with what bed? Midler was saying on Twitter last night about Melania Trump there it ISS that is your peaceful, tolerant left. They expect the Republicans to be one way and they name names and they call you every ist in the book. Racist, sexist, Whatever. They are worse than anybody. The Hollywood elites, the folks on CNN. They haven't learned anything. They don't wanna learn anything there more deplorable than anybody in this nation, but because they have a platform, they think they're better than you. They project their worst qualities onto us, because that's what's actually wrong with them. I mean, the fact that bed Midler Called Melania Trump in illegal Alien last night. Can't believe that illegal aliens on stage made fun of her about her broken English when in fact she speaks six different languages. This tells you and I really just tells you all you need to know about people of that ilk. Now, let's hear a little bit from the first lady because she spoke last night, she was the closer. It's kind of a long speech by Melania. Some say might have been too long over 20 minutes. But at the very end, I don't know if anybody else caught this. I took this as a shot at Michelle Obama and her speech a week ago taken. Listen, as you have heard this evening. I don't want to use this precious time attacking the other side because, as we saw last week, that kind of talk only serves to divide the country further. See, I don't know. Maybe it's me. I took that as a shot directly at Michelle Obama and her really divisive speech that she gave last week at the Democratsconvention. Yeah, I could definitely see that. I mean, there was a speech. It was a speech that appealed to Two females last night. That's the one thing I noticed that, you know. She made sure everybody knew that. Look, I'm a mom. I'm a wife. I'm a working Mother and I support my husband. She did call him a. Not exactly. He wasn't a quote traditional president. My my husband's not the court traditional president but which I thought was the funniest moment of the line of the night because.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"Put on the Red Maga hat one more time. For the cameras. Now, do you know what Joe Lockhart tweeted about that young man's speech? If you don't know who Joe Lockhart is. Don't worry. I'm going to tell you, but here was the tweet. From Joe Lockhart. I'm watching tonight because it's important. But I don't have to watch this snot nose entitled Kid. From Kentucky. Joe Lockhart. Was the was the White House press secretary. For Bill Clinton. Joe Lockhart is a Democrat with a capital D. He had worked his press secretary for Mondale, Dukakis. Was an adviser to John Kerry. This guy's a big deal in the Democrat Party. Joe Lockhart now works. On CNN. Evidently. Joe Lockhart is now a CNN contributor, and he called this young man whose life Was destroyed by his network. Must not knows entitled, kid. From Kentucky. That's Joe Lockhart. Look him up spokesman and communications consultant best known for being the 19th White House press secretary from October 5th 1998 to September 29th 2000 during the administration. Of the United States President Bill Clinton. The Democrats are so filled with hatred. And rage. Right now and make no mistake. It's fear. They're in there in a full panic. They? They have a very good sense of what's happening in America right now. They've got a very good grasp. Of how the American people are responding. To diners shitting, minding their own business. Being told. Raise your fist in solidarity with black lives matter or we're going to screech at you, and we're going to threaten you and we're going to taunt you. This is not gonna end well for them. And one more note about Wisconsin before we go back to your phone calls at 806 55 might There's a business owner. Local business owner who's his whose business was completely destroyed, gutted, burned to the ground. By rioters and protesters, many of whom, incidentally in Kenosha, Wisconsin, are coming in from Milwaukee and Chicago, according to news media reports. Here's what this business owner said. This heart broken and I've seen too many videos. I don't want to play them all for because they will break your heart business owners who didn't do anything. What if they do? Run? What did the used car dealer do that had his business burned to the ground of Sunday night or Monday? What did this guy do? Listen to this. Morning..
"joe lockhart" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"So that and in the twenties and thirties now support with African Americans unbelievable in all we had to Joe Lockhart or C. N. N.'s Lockhart Dershowitz's argument what you hear from is what you hear from Stalin Mussolini and Hitler what did you make when you heard that I mean everybody did respond to that sort of thing wait what just what to teach yeah I mean haven't having worked in about a dozen campaigns there is always the sense that boy if we win it's better for the country but that doesn't give you license to commit crimes or to do things that are unethical so it was absurd and what a what I thought when I was watching it was this on America this is what you hear from some this is what you hear from most so anyway chair from the far from him learn from all the authoritarian people who rationalized a zero in some cases genocide based on what was in the public interest it was a startling and I still can't believe he went on the floor of the Senate and have made that argument wow John Berman fake news CNN you know same thing there too Dershowitz arguing for unlimited presidential power blows your mind is being attacked by everybody everybody I can't stand the fact that he's the is that he has a different thought I know when you don't when you get away from that group think man all you're not a good liberal anymore you deserve to be excoriated for that it's really sick and it's ugly and it's twisted but it's all too common by the way they're doing everything they can to stop Bernie Bernie is not pulling away in Iowa and in New Hampshire they're all afraid and let's see if they try to screw Bernie again that'll be interesting I think I was the only one that stood up for poor Bernie and what he's doing Michael Bloomberg's trying to buy is where he got a Super Bowl ad out about guns okay good luck if you think that's gonna ways of the former liberal New York City mayor but we'll see what happens president I saw the president's Superbowl ad on a lot of talk about it yet it was on and we go thank but I'll let you watch it during the Superbowl are we got a lot coming up all Carter page file the loss will get the details next we got new tape from James okay if we got all my friend Burgess in today preview the Superbowl is going to run for Congress in Utah that's awesome two hundred fifty million customers major software company spanning fourteen years now reportedly exposed.
Doctor says Trump's trip to Walter Reed was 'routine'
"The White House tweeted a memo from the president's doctor navy commander Sean Connelly he describes Saturdays hospital visit as routine the president didn't have any chest pain he said despite speculation nor was the president treated for any urgent issues he said the reason the trip was capped off the record scheduling uncertainties the White House said the president just wanted to get a head start on his annual physical but Joe Lockhart president Clinton's press secretary tweeted his disbelief saying he didn't go up there for half is physical Rita folly Washington
"joe lockhart" Discussed on Words Matter
"Welcome to words matter with Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart. Welcome to words matter. I'm Katie Barlow. Our goal is to promote objective reality. As a wise, man, once said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not their own facts. Words have power and words have consequences. Joe and I are thrilled to welcome. Our next guest and milgram began her career as an assistant district attorney in the legendary Manhattan District attorney's office in two thousand one she went to work in the criminal section of the United States, Department of Justice's civil rights division where she rose to become the lead federal prosecutor in the nation for human trafficking crimes during her time at DOJ an was awarded the department of Justice special commendation for outstanding service and the director's award from two thousand seven to two thousand ten and served as the fifty seventh attorney general of New Jersey and she currently serves as a law professor and distinguished scholar in residence at New York University school of law, and is the co host of the cafe insider podcast with people are and milgram, welcome to words matter. Thank you for having me, and thanks so much for joining us. I think what the lawyer start though two years room start on this. And then I may have a political question. Or to put you? So we want to kick off, talking about a couple of cases, that have recently been decided in the southern district of New York, and in Washington DC, by district court judges responding to congressional subpoenas for Bank information and accounting information on the president of the United States, and some of his businesses both the southern district judge Rama's and in Washington DC judgmental said congress is absolutely allowed to investigate this request this information and knock down any of President Trump's lawyers attempts to quash those subpoenas, but wanted to get your read on those opinions, and what's next I think you're completely, right? Those two cases are unbelievably important for where we are today. It's almost worth taking one step back, though, which is to say that congress should never have had to gotten this infront of federal judges in order to have the administration and the president come to congress and give testimony and provide documents. This is constitutionally required. There Coequal branches of God. And it's extraordinarily to me, what we're saying, which is the president just basically saying, we are not giving any information. We don't agree with what you're doing. We don't like the way you're doing it. And so you get nothing. That's not the way our system of government works. So these cases, you said it perfectly one, judge in DC, one in York have both said congress gets information, and it's worth just on one of the things that judge Mehta said, which I think, is so important as it's impossible that the United States Congress would have the power to impeach the president, but is not able to investigate him. And I think that sort of sums it up in my mind where where the opinions are now the president's already decided to appeal the writing in DC case, I think they'll appeal the southern district judge Ramos's opinion yesterday. I think will also be appealed and that was the Georgia van Capital One decision saying they have to provide all these financial records, but to me, it is so incredibly important, we're talking about the financial records of the president were also talking about what was publicly reported recently that the president has three hundred million dollars in debt. That's an. Extraordinary amount of debt, we don't know who it's too. We don't know if they're foreign governments involved and to say that congress and the American public doesn't deserve to know that which is essentially the arguments that the administrations were making. It's just completely wrong in my view. Hey, let me ask you to hypothetically step into the role as chief counsel for the speaker of the house. Hypothetical law school. I back to ask for a former press secretary, I rules, you never answer hypothetical but now I'm asking not answering. So give me a sense of given all the issues involved is there a way to stack these things up the because there's there's six or seven cases now. There's been some movement, for instance onto yo Jay and the house intelligence committee. There's the New York state legislature passing a law. There are three other committees. Looking give me what you think is the strategy for stacking the sequencing so that it's the most advantages for getting the information or is this just throwing things up against the wall and seeing what sticks? So that's a great question. It is can I say both? And maybe to answer without ical. But the first thing is that, you know, you wanna get in front of the best judges who are going to be receptive to your arguments, and that could be any judge the cases gonna wheel. And so, I don't mean to suggest you wanna political judge wheel you mean it's random. It's random and what I mean to say is you want to judge, who's going to, you know, take the facts and evidence and who's got a real quickly and who's gonna be receptive to hearing arguments in my view on the law congress wins on all of this. And so all you want is a judge who will call this. You know, you're looking for judges. We'll call it straight down straight down the line in accordance with the law, and the constitution. It's a little tricky when you start thinking about what the administration is doing because they are blanket, people call it stonewalling. I think it's beyond stonewalling. I think it's it is obstruction of some sort, which is they're just saying we're not giving you anything, I think congress needs to move to put themselves in a position to litigate, every single one of those, and which ones go, I it's always best to have your strongest cases go. I I've done. A lot of test cases when I was prosecuting human trafficking, prosecuted, the first case under a lot of the new statutes that were passed in two thousand and we would have loved to have had the best case we did not have the best case, but we still went forward because we felt it was the right thing to do. So I think you wanna pick the strongest case, but I wouldn't hold back in litigating at this point, because it's not also clear, which cases will move the quickest one thing I'd say about the litigation peas, and we shouldn't have to use the courts away, we're using them. But my view right now is it's clear we have to use them. And there's no other way, the president is a bully and like all bullies. You know, if you give them half your sandwich, and they're not gonna eat the other half. You're always wrong. They always take both apps. And so the only way and the only reason there's been any movement over the Mola report is that they were willing commerce's wanting told barring contempt. And so to me, I would gate on all of this, I would pick the best cases I think, though, that even picking the best cases doesn't guarantee that they'll be the first ones to come out. Is it -secutive privilege demonstrably harder to fight? Than your basic, constitutional oversight responsibilities of the congress. The things that the first to have looked at I believe the reason why the financial stuff should move quicker is there's no argument for executive privilege there. And so there's no basis to deny any of it, and that's why though should move quicker in the court, the executive privilege cases, I would also litigated on those because what's happened? Now is this sort of blanket almost preventative way, that they're saying, everything is privileged right now under the Muller report, all of those documents are privileged, and they did that just that they had the opportunity to come back and argue this privilege on page ten or on page twenty whatever that is, there's going to be litigation around executive privilege with this present because they're claiming it for everything everything. And there's no possible way. That's right. Not everything. First of all, is executive privilege, second. You don't get to blanket walk in and say, we're not giving you things. But here's the problem and you guys know this the problem with executive privilege is that the administration then comes into court and says, here's what we think is privileged. The congress comes in and others. And say here's why we don't think it's privilege and then the judge has to rule on all of it, and that's more cumbersome intakes. I think there's a lot more time involved in that kind of litigation. So let me switch from hypothetical your counsel for Nancy Pelosi to your the legal handicapper what would you guess is the first thing that will get to the highest court in the land, which, you know, which one of these cases, if you had to guess, and then predict what the dynamic within the court will be on that. Tricky questions. So I think it's tough to know what the court takes I because I think the financial one of these financial cases, whether it's Missouri Georgia Bank, Capital, One. And how quickly could this move as I think could move fast? So I wanted to ask about that, because there have been these two schools of thoughts among prosecutors and lawyers. One is that they're drawing this out? This is going to be a long slog through the courts. This is gonna take forever. But the other side is saying, actually, there are ways to expedite this and cases of national import will move quickly and even yesterday, Trump's lawyers filed to expedite the case in DC. And I suspect that the DC circuit will grant that they've been granting a couple of expedite cases lately. So what do you think about the trajectory and how quickly it's all going to happen? One of the things that's really important about the DC circuit, and they have an approved yet, this expedited briefing, schedule, and hearing schedule on, the Missouri case. But it looks like they will and that would get that done in July. Right. July twelfth I think by the end of briefing, and then an oil argument, it's really faster. It's really fast for federal court. What what's important though is that I think they did it because the judge said, you've seven days. Yeah. Right. You have seven days to appeal this, and we and this needs to be expedited, because every day, it's not as hurting congress. And that's very similar to the opinion that came down from judge Ramose, and so judge Ramos, did the same thing, seven days and this has to be expedited 'cause it's hurting congress. Now, I think the second circuit in New York. The appellate court in York will do the same thing and we'll expedite. So I do think that courts will make an effort to move these cases quickly. I personally think there's no reason for them, not to go quickly and the courts for them to be effective as a Coequal branch that sort of deciding between congress and the president. If it takes them, two years, it basically destroys everything, there's no possibility to have that to have that enforced that the Congress's Coequal branch, and it would be atypical for the DC circuit, because they traditionally, actually pause oil arguments or conclude. Their oral arguments may so that they can get a number of opinions out over June and July. So having or argument on an expedited case for the DC circuit in July would be extremely rare. This is all rare and then remember that after those appeals go through the, the DC circuit or the second circuit. That's when let's say that they, let's say they uphold the district courts which my view is under the law. They should uphold the district court findings. Let's say they uphold it then Trump can petition to the United States Supreme court to take the case. The supreme court doesn't take every case..
"joe lockhart" Discussed on RobinLynne
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"joe lockhart" Discussed on The Right Time with Bomani Jones
"That's my goal to junior i'm jason fits the right time on espn radio news pierre an app it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless pests phones best networks no contracts mike when i what i've break into this he feels like deflate gate all over again i mean obviously were not lawyers but more having these conversations about legality and process that's what it comes down to it we continue to talk about process but ultimately through this process that they're they're fighting this is sort of what was collectively bargained i can't rat my head around and and again with neither of us being lawyers i can't write my head around why this is going to have a different result than prior appeals have had but i understand at some point that the players association's job as the union is to do everything in their power to defend every one of their players and you notice it's all happening very publicly you could basically what's at the core of this and now the nfl is come out and said and this is odd joe lockhart the nfl spokesman came out and said this morning that it's unequivocally absolutely false that roger goodell was not made aware of roberts findings in the investigation the idea result direct quote the idea that this was a conspiracy is false the credibility issues were addressed at length in the investigative report kia roberts or cairo albert's points were made very clearly the hundred and sixty page report included a fulsome description of the credibility problems abol tiffany thompson and his eke you'll it so as the in the simplest possible terms the nfl pa is saying that the nfl conspire to knowingly withhold this information from the commissioner from our committee involved in this decisionmaking process and left this out specifically so that they could cast down judgement odyssey even though roberts who interviewed the witness said that she would recommend knows nobody zero games no suspension in this as voice could not be heard.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on The Right Time with Bomani Jones
"That's my goal to junior on so fits the right time on espn radio news pan app it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight top wireless pest phones best networks no contracts mike when i when i break into this he feels like the flake it all over again i mean obviously were not lawyers but more having these conversations about legality in process to be that's what it comes down to it we continue to talk about process but ultimately that through this process that they're they're fighting this is sort of what was collectively bargain i can't get my head around and and again with neither of us being lawyers i can't write my head around why this is going to have a different result them prior appeals have had but i understand at some point that the players association's job as a union is to do everything in their power to defend every one of their players and you notice it's all happening very publicly you could basically what's at the core of this and now the nfl is come out and said and this is odd joe lockhart the nfl spokesman came out and said this morning that it's unequivocally absolutely false that roger goodell was not made aware of roberts findings in the investigation the idea result direct quote the idea that this was a conspiracy is false the credibility issues were addressed at length in the investigative report kia roberts or cairo roberts points were made very clearly the hundred and sixty page report included a fulsome description of the credibility problems 'able tiffany thompson and as he kyaw it so as the in the simplest possible terms the nfl pa is saying that the nfl conspire to knowingly withhold this information from the commissioner from our committee involved in this decisionmaking process and left this out specifically so that they could cast down judgement odyssey joy even though roberts who interviewed the witness said that she would recommend knows note zero games no suspension in this his voice could not be heard.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on First Take
"It's hard to see the fairness the notes weren't even available she wasn't made for cross examination she wasn't made available for that when her testimonies that keep the entire thing hard to see fundamental fairness however the flake gate was a knockout win for the nfl i don't care how many round you went along the way max you know in boxing if you knock your opponent out the end it's a clear winner and then deflate gate with tom brady the nfl scored a knockout win and fundamental fairness is whatever the nfl says it is basically so i believe the nfl has all this power to win a legal case and so the only place can win is in the court of public opinion and by filing it this early i think what the nfl pa zeke jerry jones are trying to do is influence herald henderson's outcome nut to reduce it to maybe get it down to two or three and hope jerry in the nfl p eight take it to make all this go away and before you respond really quick basically with joe lockhart it said the nfl spokesperson the findings were not based on the testimony of one witness that this was based on frenzy experts in that information now he was mentally what they came up to their conclusion sure and they're going to say that they are gonna say they took everything under consideration oh it's this is all divisive how we cut in this whole situation is is in the fell against the players in the players are sitting there watching this i don't care what player it is 1600 players are sitting there watching this situation take place was zeke and they're sitting there say this could easily be me and this is the control that info has work we go back to the cba and we can see this is safely roger goodell has all the power and that's the biggest situation where happen but the nfl these get out of this business i mean the perception of the nfl word is right now is get out of his areas of investigation.
"joe lockhart" Discussed on Jalen and Jacoby
"Obviously no suspension and then there's this reading appeal by ezekiel elliott that appeal will be heard and then there's been some news leaks some news leaks of various different things that seemed to be disparaging to try to discredit the accuser the nfl released to this statement sustainment from joe lockhart executive vice president of communications quote over the past few days we've received multiple ports of the nfl pa spreading derogatory information to the media about the victim in easy kill elliott discipline case it is a common tactic to attempt to prove the innocence of the accused by discrediting the victim in this case mrs thompson miss thompson would coming forward to report such abuse or not these tactics are shameful efforts to shame and blamed victims are often what present people for coming forward in the first place to report violence and or seek help in the first place this is an interesting interesting thing that is happening and one thing that needs to be made very clear is whatever you say about this person whatever text messages see said we all read the text messages it does not in any way shape or form change the fact that he may or may not have assaulted her like it really doesn't matter in his point that's where all was gone and this story is like holding a loaded twelve gauge because soak it fired there are so many different ways to unload here's where i wanna start.