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Ep. 766 - Sexual Insanity

The Andrew Klavan Show

46:29 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 766 - Sexual Insanity

"The New York Times a former newspaper has set off a bomb shell with a new report of completely unsubstantiated rumors of yet another absurd sexual allegation against Supreme Court the Justice Brett Cavanaugh. The report of the factually empty gossip was such a bombshell that blew several times reporters out of the newsroom and into a vast darkness of journalistic malfeasance where were they floated desolate soul destroying moral vacuum along with most of the Times editorial staff according to the allegations. Someone said someone said something about out something else. Someone might have said about Justice Cavanaugh. No wait sorry. That's James Taylor Song now wait. That's actually also the New York Times piece. Although the Times did not supply the lilting melody or soulful blue slash country vocal stylings of Mister Taylor at his extraordinary artistic peak time story alleges and I'm not making this up that some guy I saw Kavanagh's friends push Kavanagh's penis into the hand of a woman at a party at Yale. The Penis later returned to Mr Cavenaugh by his friends who said they'd only bartered as a prank. The allegation was alleged in an alleged book by some alleged reporters for the Times newspaper but in the book the woman in question says she has no memory Marie of the incident a fact that was left out of the original time story which is both an astounding act of corrupt journalistic malpractice and standard operating procedure at the The Times Democrats immediately reacted to the fact free third hand rumors by demanding Kavanagh's impeachment in a statement by female make believe Indian presidential candidate who asked to remain anonymous while she was degrading yourself by spreading baseless calumnies quote is unfounded. Slur is just one more unfounded slur to add to the pile of unfounded slurs. I which magically become founded once you buy them up high enough unquote mobs of hysterical leftist females immediately gathered outside the Supreme Court shrieking believe all women while simultaneously making that utterly impossible trigger warning. I'm after leaving and this is the Andrew Klavan shop taking all sustain. You should see tops live easy to see it. You know I often tell a story about a young couple who lived across a New York City Street from me when I was young on myself and they put their bed by the window and they left the window opened often at all times of the day I could see making love to one another with enormous vigor and creativity tippety. It was shockingly raw stuff difficult not to watch one day. I remarked upon it to the live in girlfriend. Who would one day become my wife? I said look at this. This is downright pornographic the graphic and she said why what's pornographic about it. We do all the same things they do. which was to me a revelation revelation was this the inner life makes everything worthwhile while the I is pornography may be true love to the soul we humans live a deeply material life but we live at a spiritual level whether we want to or not this is one of the most confusing and confounding aspects of human existence our animal selves provide us with everything that is based about ourselves? Our bodily functions are raw desires disease Z's and death but there are also at the core of our nobility. What is there in human life more beautiful or poignant than the site of a mother with her newborn child? It's an incredibly human thing and yet is not a human thing at all. The same phenomenon happens at every level of Mammalian life. What makes it so amazing for us are God given and godlike consciousness of of its depth and meaning many people throughout history have sought to remove the animal from humanity and leave only the mental or spiritual behind religious celebrates who seek to leave desire behind philosophers who elevate thought over every other activity or scientists who seek to handover central bodily functions like birth to machinery sorry to leave us quote unquote free to pursue are quote unquote higher callings? I've always wondered though what is the good of improving the life of man if he's no longer man when you're done with them. Clearly the higher wiser more vital most human answer is to immerse oneself an animal life in a completely spiritual way some hedin. It's believe hedonist. I believe that this means experiencing physical pleasure to its depths but every time they've tried this seems to result in disaster the abuse of the week by the powerful I suspect aspect Aristoteles Christianity comes closer to the truth when it advises us to apply the moral sense that holds us to the virtue between extremes and looks to God to supply meaning depth and joy to both the pleasures we have and the restraint we need to make those pleasures moral that path is both straight and narrow but one one thing seems clear especially right now in this present moment if you step off the border of the straight and narrow path sheer madness wise beyond and we'll see why in just a second but first let us talk about light stream and you know flight stream. You know why I love Games because I like you like everybody uses credit cards without now thinking about him. I use credit cards without thinking oh it's actually money then at the end of the month is funny. 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Dot com slash Andrew subject to credit approval rate includes point five percent auto pay discount terms and conditions apply offers are subject to change without notice visit light stream dot com slash Andrew for more information information. I always wish every time I read that. I wish I had one of those fast readers. Who would take me through that but I but I don't just stumble through it on my own? I'm still in New York waiting to do the roast for Ben Shapiro which follows hard on the roast who's roasted last night. Somebody Alec Baldwin roasted last night. it's a little harder to roast Ben because he's an actually really decent human being but we'll do our best and I'll be as nasty as I possibly can. Let's let's start this story with this time story which is an amazing piece of self-destruction by the New York Times is in keeping with what they're doing now. Everything is get trump. Everything is destroy conservatives. Everything is lump conservatives with trump and just page after page about how trump is evil. What a terrible thing he's done to his will never recover never mind? The economy doesn't matter never mind the fact that we're not at war never mind the fact that everything is actually going pretty well at the New York Times. Donald Trump is the devil and they cannot stop attacking him and part of him is of course the appointment of Bread Cavanaugh to the Supreme Court with you you know not wishing anything bad on Ruth Bader Ginsburg but very possibly another Supreme Court pick coming up so they're getting all the more hysterical about it so so they're a book is going to come out. I think coming out tomorrow it's called something like the education against Brett cavenaugh written by two New York Times reporters and so they run this thing a new story and you all remember how they tried to get him with Christine Blazey Ford and he'd done this horrible thing when he was eighteen or seventeen or sixteen years old whatever it was house and now they say they've got a shocking new sexual allegation that when he was a yells in the eighties he was at a party and I guess the ideas he was naked and some of his pals shoved him into a girl so that his penis touched her hand. You know this is written by Robin Pogrebin Kate Kelly and we'll get back to them in a minute but this source is well look Mollie Hemingway and carry Severino wrote this wonderful wonderful book justice on trial. I read it. It's I I recommend it highly. It is deeply deeply researched all about this attack on Brad Kavanagh where came from and the strategies that we're using all this stuff and so here's molly talking about the the way the Times reported this allegation so there is this book coming out on Tuesday. It's written by two reporters who were actually kind of involved in anti cabinet. effort is probably the best way to put it. They were reporting on it for the New York Times. They were pulled off their beats to help because they both had backgrounds privileged backgrounds where are they had intersected with. People who were in the story and Robin Pogrebin went to Yale with cavenaugh she actually bloomed with one of the central figures who coordinated anti Cavanaugh Ebina efforts she lightly discloses that in her book and now they're out with a book and carrying I I've been reading it just finished it and they also have an essay where they they claim that there was another allegation. left out of the essay. Is that there that the claim that was made is actually denied by the alleged victim they put in their book but they didn't put that in their essay which is causing some people to question their journalistic ethics. This is amazing stuff. They did put an editorial note. After twenty four hours of enduring the wrath of human all of all humankind they put an editorial note mentioning that the woman that the the woman who is supposed to be at the center of this doesn't remember this is she doesn't say it happens. She's not she's not denying issues such remember something like that ever happened which is pretty amazing easy not to leave that I mean that is an amazing piece and you have to remember the big thing. The big take on this is widened the F. B. I. Research This but you have to go back and remember that the whole thing thing was about delaying the Cavanaugh acceptance was delaying putting him on the court so that hopefully something magical would happen they would find the trump was actually Vladimir Putin in disguise you know they would actually get to an election and vote him out of office something anything to delay so they kept pouring things on kept asking more more and more things kept moving the goalposts and finally the Republicans agreed to let the FBI investigate the two most believable allegations the Plessey Ford Allegation Asian and one other allegation they investigated those no proof that they had taken place and this came in and it's obvious nonsense now here's Carrie Severino the other author of the Book Justice on trial talking talking about and this is amazing talking about the chain how this piece of an intelligence how the story actually becomes a story how the sources pass it along. What's so funny about this? Allegation is the incredibly you can. You waited nature of it so what they really have is to Senate staffers. Who say ah that's dire told them that he heard from a woman that at a party ca that when we're everyone was maybe drunk? Kavanagh's friends pushed him and his Genitalia Inter her now. What's crazy? Is it just the story itself. Is I mean if even followed that that's impressive so many links in the chain and the the part they leave out his that this woman apparently has told her friends that she doesn't even remember it in style himself and the women are not speaking to co Pogrebin and Kelly so this is eighteen. It's not even like third hand fourth hand account of an incident that even if it happened happened as it is described sounds like it was Kavanagh's friends who were the wrongdoers here so it's it is a very bizarre thing to try to hang your hat on as a new allegation ah on top of which star who they referred to as this kind of just a well respected you know guy he runs a he runs a nonprofit and they say oh he's a well respected. He was also a on Bill Clinton's legal team where they were defending him against charges of sexual malfeasance seasons with Monica Lewinsky Sire is on that legal team and on the other team against him Brett Cavanaugh never mind that so they've got these two reporters one one of whom was involved with trying to take down cavenaugh. They've got a source who isn't talking to them. Who says that who was on the Bill Clinton team against a Brett cavenaugh plus it wasn't even from the source? It was two people to AIDS telling them that the source said that this happened at a party to a woman who doesn't remember it. I mean it's not it's not something you scroll on a bathroom wall. This is not a new story they should make it into some place supposedly as as terrific traffic journalistic venue as the New York Times. Let's pause just a minute because then I gotta get to the funny part I mean this is already kind of hilarious but I'll get to the funny part in just a minute but let let us talk about ring ring. Is there to help keep you safe and it really does. It really does give you peace of mind because you can talk to anyone who comes to your door. You can see him on a camera. Look look at your phone. See Him talk to them. Find out why he's there what he's doing there and and check out what's going on at your house. 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That's ring dot com slash Cleveland for a special offer. Additional terms may apply like for for instance. They may want you to know how to spell Klavan. It's K. L. A. V. A. N. So that's the story we're dealing with right. Is this complete work of nonsense and of course the left goes crazy. Liz Warren says she tweets out last year. The cabinet nomination was 'em through the Senate without a thorough examination the nation of the allegations against him I mean that's other garbage. Confirmation is not exoneration and these newest revelations of disturbing like the man who appointed him cavanaugh should be impeach each Kamala Harris I sat through those hearings Brett Cavenaugh wide to the US Senate and most importantly to the American people he was put on the court threw a sham process and his place on the quarter's an insult to the pursuit of truth and Justice and here's Julian Castro what's happening right now with Donald Trump and what he's doing and the presidency and what happened with this cavenaugh process is that they're completely undermining our democratic process and the necessity to go by what is truthful and honest especially when you're talking about somebody's sitting on the highest biased court in the land that is supposed to be the ultimate arbiter of what is right and just and what came clear. What's become? I'm clear is that that he should be impeached. The house absolutely has the ability to impeach him. The question would be what the Senate would do and you know I wanNA know at this coin why why did the. FBI Not Follow up on all of these leads that they have they didn't lift a finger to investigate it and if they brock walked they did bring some of that information to the attention of some of those Republican senators why those senators say anything is utterly ridiculous. I mean would you would anybody investigate. Instigate this. Anybody can say anything about anybody and we know the left does this. They did it to Clarence Thomas and they continue to insist and make movies about the fact that this was true when when even even if everything Anita Hill it said about Clarence Thomas was true it would have amounted to nothing a little bit of irritation a little bit of course a few course remarks it would have amounted to nothing Clarence Thomas. There was never an allegation clarence. Thomas Heard Anita Hill's career she followed him around. She followed them from place to place because he was helping her career and grooming her and the idea that he did any of those things is completely unsubstantiated but even if it weren't even if it were and I feel that personally I feel that way about Brad Kavanagh on blazes four to by the way I mean this is I know an unpopular opinion but I feel if he did something Jerky in Highschool even if he acted up active wild in college no I do. I feel that that makes disqualifies him to be a great judge in the Supreme Court. No I don't and I mean I have I listen to I have dual feelings about the metoo movement in in general I you know I want ladies to be treated like ladies and Gentlemen to be gentlemen. That's a very important thing to me a very important value to me but I'm GonNa talk about in just a minute once the logic of that falls apart art. You can't blame people for behaving the way people behaved at a certain period and then going back into time and saying well now. We're going to prosecute you for things because or mores or morals of change that's absurd on top of which the whole thing about Cristina blazey forward. Is that like her allegations were not that believable or unbelievable at all. It was like somewhere in the past. I don't know where something happened. Even other women you know obviously left wing. Women went out immediately with this incredibly stupid logic of I was tacked so I believe her which makes no sense whatsoever but other women said I remember every detail of what happened to me when I was attacked attack and she doesn't remember anything and she didn't plus on top of this. This is new also from federalist with where Mollie Hemingway and carry severino work within days of Kavanagh's confirmation to the Supreme Court Brett Kavanagh's father was approached by Christine Ford's father of the golf club where they were both members Ralph Blazey Ford's father went out of his way to offer Ed Kavanagh his support of Brett Kavanagh's confirmation to the Supreme Court says Christine Place who Ford's father saying he was glad he said I'm glad Brett was confirmed in the com- The encounter immediately caused a stir at the close knit private golf club is staff and members shared the news. I don't know if this was my daughter. That's not what I would have been doing if I believed her and it made me feel it certainly suggests that the father had doubts about the allegations and thinks she may have been making some of this up so I I have to report reporting the reaction of the Democrats I have to report the reaction of the media. Which of course is the same thing but it was interesting on the on morning? Joe Joe Scarborough had on a I don't know what his name was kind of. A media commentator Joe Scarborough like treated it like it was kind of his his his pal the New York Times had had gone astray they'd gone astray as opposed to the fact that they do this now. Every single day I mean this happens to be a particularly egregious example sample of it but they're newspaper. Reporting is now simply an attack on trump. It's virtually hate speech against all conservatives is not trying to get the news subjectively. It's not trying to tell all the news. That's fit. That's vistaprint and Joe is sad and I could not believe the New York Times would write this piece without that information contained in it. I are you surprised a twenty four hours was twenty four hours went by before before they clarified that fact and let me just ask also or producers just put in there that is Max tire may be respected but what is it not relevant to know that he was opposing counsel on the other side of Brett cavenaugh and the Monica Lewinsky Wenski legal proceedings. I don't understand why they didn't put this information in the article that strike you as strange yeah. That's certainly good context being provided here about starring Joe Right we were talking about yesterday and we're puzzled and remained so that if the woman involved saying that she doesn't remember that raises some questions actions about the peace. Certainly I'm not going to the New York Times is made their own editorial judgments about what should be included but just taking a step back beyond this one article. I also also just want to read it. Underscores flashpoint the cavenaugh hearings were and remain and we'll be going forward. It's Kinda strange that they don't know I can imagine why the New York Times would do such a thing. I can't imagine how they could have made such a mistake. Maybe it was the drugs. Maybe you know they. They took something for a cold old had gotten their head. Their heads got stuffy. You know it must be something it must be. There's got to be a reasonable explanation. Why The Times would unleash a rabid attack on a Supreme Court justice? They don't like without checking the facts. I mean what really there's gotta be some other and then the commentator I love the way he goes like it just points out. What a flashpoint this is it? He points out that these guys are coming liars. That's what it points out just say lie to get what they want. They lied to get power. They lie to get the to keep control. The Supreme Court for skirl reasons in the first place because they've transformed the court into an agent of change. They've transformed the court from people who kind of call balls and strikes strikes. The UMPIRES. were out there saying get. That's constitutional no. That's not what the founders meant. You don't like. It changed the constitution. They've changed it from that too. Yes we interpret this to mean whatever we want to mean. It's Thursday nowadays are standards are such and such. It doesn't matter what Ben Franklin thought it doesn't matter Thomas Jefferson thought it matters what we feel in our hearts parts is right. I mean Anthony Kennedy who is a judge a lot of the Times but he drove me crazy with this stuff like well. You know we feel the dignity of gay people and therefore the Constitution the two must mean them. Do we have the absolute right to be married in absurd that is what the left turned the court into it wasn't supposed to be that it's not supposed to be that now now and so that's why they fight so desperately for it but let's get a little bit of a more measured a Mormon measured reaction from Msnbc where the com- grownup goes these this is the guy named Jason Johnson Who Lord Love Him is a journalism professor. There's the mysterious debt. We don't know where that went wrong. We have no idea where that went. I I don't know anybody who spends that much money. On national six make any sense to me then you have the thousands of legal documents right things that he wrote the Bush administration that Republicans wouldn't turn forward then you have a history of sexual so I said last year joy. I've never heard of a guy who's a one time rapist. I've never heard of a guy who's one time sexual assaulter. I grew up with guys like this. He's former around this area right. He's the fifth guy and again great okay. He's the guy who comes in after everybody else encourages them. You can get away with he's been pretty much covered his entire life and now he's on the Supreme Court where he can move that same despicable Sajjan. It's the attitude that he's gotten away with entirely cowardly life to the greatest massages of all which is the price United States journalism professor. What's recently Morgan the university? I can't remember the name of the University Journalism Professor Yeah we can tell we can. I can tell I grew up with guys like this. He's the fifth guy in a gang rape. and you know that that's somehow is worth saying on on TV unbelievable. It is unbelievable stuff the hatred but but you know the thing that gets me about it is of course there is the Clinton hypocrisy that Clinton who was very credibly accused of rape who was obviously a serial cheater serial adulterer adulterer. Obviously a deep died liar. I mean looked in the cameras that I did not had sex with that woman when he obviously had I mean this is a guy who lied. He perjured himself he was accused of rape nothing from the left just defense okay typical politics suddenly when they think they've got something that they can get the their opponents with They're going to use it to the hilt. Okay I'll take that as as typical politics but it also brings out the fact that the culture the culture that could have created a party where a guy was standing around naked is not conservative culture. It's the left's culture the left did this every step of the way it's the left who told women that they were the same as men fishes enjoy sex the same as men. It's victim blaming if a woman gets a drunk drunk out of her mind at a party with men and then wakes up with a stranger insider. That's you know that's just victim blaming to point out that it was unwise for her to get drunk the that absolves the guy it doesn't but it's still that it's unwise to get drunk in the same ways unwise to walk down a dark alley at three o'clock in the morning. Even though it's the muggers fault when he attacks you know it's the left that created this culture entirely and it's the left that still seeks to raise the differences between men and women and makes it absurd to have rules about sex right. I mean if it men would have different rules about sex if women had the same rules as men that that's exactly what's happening at a drunken party where everybody he's running around and you know with close half off and is drunk out of their mind. That's that's women acting like men right and this is basically what the what the left has been selling women are the same as men except when men are women than women are so different you have to cut off your Dingus to be one of them but then suddenly you're a woman. It's madness. It's madness. If you don't start with the animal facts of life than you deal then you can deal with the problems they come up. If you start with the animal facts of life you deal with the problem up there are two kinds of people men and women. They're very very different. Their physical bodies their brains. Everything about them is different. They built for different things. Why because nature doesn't care that you WanNa be a ski instructor? structre just cares that you reproduce it doesn't care if you want to paint the Sistine Chapel it Jus- cares that you make more people and so it has created us for that fact and so surely Orley surely the instead of eliminating that and try and instead of trying to erase it what you do. Is You deal with it in a moral way that is who you humanize your animality that is how you humanize the physical facts of your life and that's what human life is about that is what human life is about. It's not about eliminating the physical facts of your life. It's not about only being a brain. It's not about living celebrate unless you have some specific reason to live celibate. It's not about any of those and it's not about like turning over to robots and sheens to do the things that human do demons do is about living the life of an animal human in a spiritual way if once you stop doing that the only other other choice is the kind of madness. We're seeing now it is it's like a sexual disease like a sexual pathology where everything having to do with sex is screwed up everything having to the sex is madness. Why because we've lost the basics basic idea well? Let me stop for just a second and talk about vistaprint. You know I finally did get my cards cards. 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There's a guy who was a the clock for his name. Was He died. September third. He was an abortionist in Indiana he lived but he had a place in Illinois and they went to his house and they found two thousand medically preserved fetal remains found on his property pretty this look the Gosnell case he was keeping souvenirs. He any preserving them right. These are medically preserved. Fetus fetal remains that he was keeping on his property he performed abortions Indiana with women's health clinics he lost his license. The state suspended his license in two thousand fifteen after two people accused him of performing abortions worship thirteen year old girls without properly admitting records to the state's Health Department so think about it from it kind of shocked when you hear that when I first heard it that I thought wow that's really shocking and ugly but why is it shocking. You know a doctor a guy who it is a medically trained doctor can do pretty much what he wants. That's a job in demand and people can do it and people can choose the kind of doctoring they WanNa do if you choose to be an abortionist into to do it because you like it. I mean you could make the argument that you think it's an important thing that has to be required but there are lots of important things treating cancer is important treating all kinds of diseases uses important. Why do you choose abortion? 'cause somehow you'll like it. You'll like doing that. Who Likes doing that? You know I mean it's like it's kind of it's a kind of sickness right and I think that it's just there's even story out. I mean I I hesitate to tell the story. It's so horrific there it was a Missouri tried to put a ban on abortions at or after eight weeks of pregnancy right but federal judge has temporarily blocked that from being implemented because he says he thinks it's unconstitutional and he says it's GonNa take a while to work out and similar laws have been struck down in North Dakota and Iowa however the judge allowed allowed one portion of the policy to take effect a ban on abortions based solely on race sex or diagnosis indicating the potential for Down Syndrome in other words. If you find out it's a girl and you WANNA boy. You're not allowed to have an abortion how they can tell that's your reason. I don't know planned parenthood vow to fight to block that portion of the law to a planned parenthood chief medical officer for planned parenthood of the Saint Louis Region Calling Mick Nicholas said although we're grateful today's ruling allows us to provide care to some missourians we will continue to defend the truth. Every reason to have an abortion is valid reason so there's a new this is from from life news. There's a new report that people were kind of monitoring read it. You know a social media place. Social Media Site and people are talking about a fetish for getting pregnant and having abortions is a fetish for the sexual fetish it. My girlfriend enjoys her pregnancy. This is a quote from read my joy friend my girlfriend enjoys her pregnancies and she enjoys the abortion for data to abort is between twenty and twenty four weeks of just station. Another person wrote that this girl is with a male partner who is just like her into breeding and they have been practicing their fetish for quite a few abortions and you read that you think like Oh my God. This is people have a sexual fetish for killing their fetuses but why not why not everybody enjoys something. Some people enjoy serial killing. Some people just enjoy cereal. What's the difference? What's the difference once you lose? The idea of human life is a spiritual enterprise based in material real fact once you lie lose the idea of human life as a spiritual enterprise located in material fact you have lost everything thing and you've gone mad you're going and so this is a country society has gone insane in many ways. One of the things we have to remember is that at a community a society a country a nation a world can go mad and be perfectly happy while it commits fifty million abortions in here and you can do it. We've done it. I got to say goodbye to facebook and Youtube. Come on over to daily wire dot com and subscribe and then you can be in the mail bag. Yeah you can get the leftist tears. Tumbler is ten bucks a month one hundred bucks for the year and the most important thing. Is we get your money so come on over the daily wire dot com Tom you know we're talking really what we're really talking about. Degrees Tahiliani the idea that things have a purpose when you were into that purpose you get you get it right and listen. The Catholic Church works on Telly Biaggi when it comes to Saxon they say sexes for having babies is for procreating therefore you shouldn't use any birth control and therefore gay relationships are always wrong. I have a different view of Kellyanne believe sometimes if you're a person who can't reproduce if you're a person who can only love a person of the own your own sex. I believe the technology according to Aristotle permits you to do something to us something for a good purpose. that is outside the immediate purpose so the example I give is if I carry my computer and someone tries to Mug me and I hit him over the head with my computer. That's not what the computers for but that's a perfectly valid thi Laos as for the computer so there were many different ways to do this but you have to do it. You have to do it at some level because you can't know what a thing is good. I if the thing is good if you don't know what you're supposed to do with it you can't if your life is good if you don't know what it's for you can't know if your body is good. If you don't know what it's for all everything you know she has Lewis said even corkscrew you can't if a good corkscrew until you know what is four and so this is the logical way to look at it and this is why you know the idea that you humanize nice things by using the moral sense has been abandoned by the left because it's so hard so difficult to do and it restricts you and it means. You can't do everything the one that always bothers me more than anything anything is race the left as far as I'm concerned is now operating at the level of toothless clansman you know one of those guys and a CD pool hall who talks about race and everything is race and all blacks and all about the blacks in his whole I mean they're just doing it with the whites and they think that makes them better to me. It makes them exactly the same I in my imagination the New York Times all the left is just a toothless guy who meets in the at night with a mask on a sheet on his head talking about race because thinking about human beings as entirely as what they're races. We really even a little about what they're racist. It's degrading. It's degrading to you it's degrading to you and you know what I don't do it. I don't do it when I say that I don't mean Oh. I'm like pristine. I have not a racist bone in my body. I don't mean that at all. I don't mean that at all I in the same way I lust after women but I don't go after them. Because I'm true to my wife I all kinds of crazy thoughts all kinds of thoughts that oh I don't act on them. I I set them aside. I live according to my lights not according to my flesh. I don't live according to the dictates of my body. I live according to my moral lights because is that is to me that makes me a human being so now as the the fallout from the last debate has been really fascinating the last Democrat debate. They're all going after after Joe Biden they since he's weak they sense he can't win. He's too goofy at this point. He can't remember anything he can't be make sense. He can't make an English sentence and so now they're going after him. In terms of race okay do we knucklehead row setup because I think we should start talking about this. At knucklehead row the OP-ED ED page of The New York Times darndest uh-huh so Charles blow the most aptly named Ed writer on Knucklehead row and one of the chief knuckleheads because he blows he he wrote a piece Joe Biden is problematic and he talks about the moment the debate which I noticed too 'cause I had a totally different reaction to it. The moderator asked him the asthma question. She quoted something he had said in nineteen seventy five and when he was asked how to deal with segregation in schools and he said I don't feel responsible Biden said back in seventy five. I don't feel responsible for the sins of my father and grandfather I feel responsible for what the situation today for the sins of my own generation and I'll be damned. I'm the Fifield responsible to pay for what happened three hundred years ago and the questioner said You said that some forty years ago but as you stand here tonight what responsibility do you think think Americans need to take to repair the legacy of slavery in our country and I immediately thought just say no joe say none none because none of the people who held slaves here. None of the people who were slaves is here we have to do with the moment he what he said before was true but instead he made that stupid comment about teaching people to use the radio and the record player remembered him sound like one hundred and fifty years old instead of only one hundred twenty five years old and he said you know we've got learned. Teach teach black parents basically to go home and teach their children things so Charles blow says his language belies a particular mindset one of liberal of a particular vintage in other words. He's too old on the issue of race. It is paternalistic and pities. It sees deficiency in much the same way that the conservative does. I don't know who he's talking about there but I guess it's the conservative Charles Charles Blows Imagination says it response as savior rather than with savagery. That's what we need in this country. We need more savagery their thing we are missing in this country as savagery so he takes after him and it's just it's funny that he blames this on age because I think he was telling me Joe was telling the truth back then and his lying now he's lying now when he says says Biden is trying to make it up and he's trying to relate to black people which is always hilarious and he he's at a pool and he talks about a an inner city pool well he talks about how he was a lifeguard at this pool and he faced down the evil gang member corn pop the evil corn pop in here's Joe telling that story worry about his life and corn pop was a bad dude and he ran a bunch of bad boys and I did he back in those days. Shy things things have changed one of the things that used if you use palm eight and you hear you had to wear baby cap and so he's up on the boardwalk enlisted mess it. Hey Esther you off the board. I'll come up and drag you off well. He came off and he said I'll meet you outside. My car was mostly these raw public housing behind it my car there was a gate out here. I parked my car outside. The gate and I said I'll be waiting for your birth. Three guys straight razors not a joke. There's a guy named bill right mouse the only white guy and he did all the pools he was mechanic and I said what am I gonNA do. Come down out here in the basement where mechanics we're we're. We're all the pool builder is used to be chained went across the defend and he cut off a six foot length of chain. You follow up you walk out with that chain and you walk their car and say you may cut me man but I'm going to wrap this chain around your head. That's Joe he gets the guy. The guy is I hate to see them lose because he's GonNa leave all the humor out of the Democrat line but then he went out so he we went out to corn pop the evil corn pop and he apologized he didn't apologize for telling me to get off the board. He said he politics for calling him. Esther Williams was famous swimmer earn movies and that was the end of the fight so there's Joe relating to black people he's going to need to do it. He is the most popular Democrat among black people because they consider him. I'm an ally black voters because they consider him an ally because he was with Barack Obama and obviously he in Alabama got along. He was a loyal loyal vice president into Obama. Although Obama has not endorsed him and I personally think he's being hung out to dry and he's done for but we will see still again it is it's an amazing thing to watch the left. They have been doing this now for over a decade to reduce themselves to the level of clansman by their absolute obsession with with race which is not at all not at all taking the human body and transforming it through the moral view. If you have a moral view you understand that you have to love your neighbor whereas yourself you understand that you have to treat people equally there. They think that they're fighting racism but they actually just continuing racism. I'M GONNA have to wind wind down here because we're running out of time but I I want to go to a final reflection which is still in the same kind of vein what I've been talking about in the Wall Street Journal last last week they had a an op-ed by a guy named Stanley gold far he was associate dean of curriculum at the University of Pennsylvania's medical school and he says a a new wave. He's still at the medical school. This new wave of educational specialists is increasingly influencing medical education. They emphasize social justice as it relates relates to health care only tangentially. He says the emphasize social justice that relates to healthcare only tangentially this approach is the result of progressive mindset that pours hierarchy of any kind and the social elitism associated with the medical profession in particular these educators focus on eliminating health disparities and ensuring that the next generation of physicians is well equipped to deal with cultural diversity which are worthwhile goals but teaching these issues is coming at the expense of rigorous training in medical science. The prospect of this new politicized medical education should worry all Americans says meanwhile unconscious cardiologists surgeons and other medical specialists are in short short supply the specialists were produced must master more crucial material even the less and less of their medical school education is devoted to basic scientific knowledge of this country needs more gun gun control and climate change activists medical schools are not the right place to produce him well the left went nuts and the medical people went nuts on twitter and and they've piled on the distorted his argument according to The Wall Street Journal. They said that he believed the doctor shouldn't have opinions about political issues but that's not what he said he he said those issues shouldn't interfere with scientific and clinical training essential to producing doctors who can serve patients. The most disappointing response came from from Penn Medical School which the Dean Larry Jamison j Larry Johnson and senior vice deans Suzanne rose sent a letter to students and faculty. It said this please know that the views expressed by Dr Gold for farm in this column reflect his personal opinions and do not reflect the values of the Perlman School of Medicine we deeply value inclusion and diversity is fundamental to effective healthcare delivery creativity discovery and lifelong learning we are committed to ensuring a rigorous Ariston comprehensive medical education that includes examination of the many social and cultural issues that influence health from violence within communities to changes in the environment around us so so a complete fantasy a complete cloud based idea where you float around and you worry about what your gender is and what your Pronoun is and what the weather's like and who's what corporations destroying the weather and don't fix the cancer that the guy came in with and don't listen to the complaints that he has and don't look at the symptoms and learn everything you can the disconnect disconnect between the physical and the moral the disconnect between the physical and moral makes people insane that is the way it is way too Luay to use your animal life to its fullest is to apply morale albumen morality to the animal body and that is the idea that will give you a beautiful life and we'll take you home to the life beyond all right. 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The Mueller Report Cheat Sheet # 960

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The Mueller Report Cheat Sheet # 960

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan Bongino, by the Dan Bongino show police, Joe, how are you today? Happy Wednesday morning Daniel good to be here. Brother, not happy. Now. I'm tired. It's not happy. Tired? I tell him these cases wherein me out. Is it not happen at ways, it's mentally draining? I gotta tell you, folks. I'm getting tired of this back and forth with these nonsense with these imbeciles on social media, Email and elsewhere. These people don't understand the grave situation. Where in throw everything that's going on right now. I mean, we are facing probably one of the biggest constitutional crises in our in our Republic in modern times. And there are people in the media like this, lunatic jerk. I don't even know trying to keep this somewhat family friendly. Joe Scarborough this lunatic on MSNBC comes out yesterday and says, hey, man, all the spying was done by the book. Yeah. Yeah. It was done by the book to communist manifesto. That's the book you're referring to you dope. I mean, I can't believe how many people are skewering. Their reputations are taking like shish kebab on open charcoal. Flames skewering their reputations for the rest. Of their lives to go on the record on their own television shows and defend the defend the police states when they know all of this is going to come out in the long run. It is just stunning. It is stunning. How many people who want you to take them? Seriously. Rachel, Maddow, Chuck Scarborough. Or Joe Scarborough, Chuck's Cobra was a guy in New York. Joe Joe Scarborough that Brian Stelter Costanza at CNN all these lunatic conspiracy theorists. Who are I mean, drew burning their reputations in an open garbage can because they just can't get past. The fact that Aren JR. Man, bad. We don't like Trump. It is disgusting. Oh, sorry, folks. I don't really open the show like that. But I I'm really I'm not lying to you. Is this show is ROY motion show. There's no teleprompter. There's no scripts and get what I got every day today. You got a little bit of anger. It's funny. I was just reading on Facebook some lady said can you talk a little lower on your show? No not today. It's already may wanna be fast forward to tomorrow show while waiting for the Muller report to come out tomorrow that's going to be huge. That's going to be a big show. Here's what I got for you today. Rant over. I'm going to prep you for what to see in this report. What to look for? There's a scam. He's pulling I'm expose the scam for you. Don't worry. I also want to get this tax stuff. And some Bernie stuff to show you what hypocrites these Democrats are. And how little they know in this black hole of knowledge a living. All right. Today's show brought to you by our buddies that Genucel this we love Genucell in this house. They make the best products for skin everybody in my house uses it, my mother-in-law. 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Genucell works for men. It works for women divers altering twelve hours or less and Genucel immediate effects is also included free order now get free three day shipping. Text young two seven seven four five three or go to Genucel dot com. That's Genucel dot com. All right. Let's go. Give me something to get me. What I'm going to start with this first because I don't know how long this is going to take its import the Muller probe is going to drop tomorrow. The Mahler report I should say covering his witch hunt. This disgraceful stain on American history probe of a president for a crime that never happened. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're a regular listener to the show, and I cover this. This is this is where I'm going in book to my second book on this exonerated, the failed takedown of Donald Trump, and this please pick it up you've been really helpful in helping us get an idea what the preorder is going to look like. The whole purpose of the Muller probe. Ladies and gentlemen, is for Muller to keep the attention on Donald Trump. And this is I believe what is reported is going to say keep the heat on Donald Trump keep the heat away from Hillary Clinton, the DOJ and others. And the purpose of the Muller probe was to keep it open as long as possible to keep said he'd on Donald Trump now to keep the heat on Trump and to rescue the reputation of department of Justice and FBI we track in Joe, please tell me is the audience this make sense because what I'm going where I'm going to go with this preparing you for this drop tomorrow, you will be more prepared than anyone when you're done with this show. We'll makes sense if you don't understand that I will Muller probe has to rescue the reputation of the DO and keep the heat on Donald Trump. How will they do that the reputation of the department of Justice in FBI, they won all in on one particular thing to save themselves? What was it? Hey. You put me in a better mood. Good. I was really dizzy blanked off. Whether you get it when I got on the air, really fear. Joe Scarborough Saint fan everything. The buck. Yeah. Joe, okay. You smoke in bonds in your office. Joe is here as you would make a hidden hidden hitting the skunk weed in the office, the chocolate, Ty, what are you doing back there, folks? I think that was when I was a kid my neighborhood. I did not drug. So listen kids, if you're listening don't do them. I didn't do. But a lot of people around me did New York City. I remember all kinds of funny names. Yeah. I'm sure in the music field. Joe you have no experience with this. Dude. Yeah. I can only imagine what Joe stories we may have to NC seventeen chill for that. So this guy he was a music. That's the way it looks like L A and the author stand. The FBI based its entire case on the dossier. That was planned be okay. Plan b for them, not the FBI with the Obama administration in general, the larger picture plan was to spy on on political opponents, Mike Flynn and others using human assets, the phone Halpern, others unmasking, basically wiretapping people and misuse of the NSA database that was their original plan when that broke down Devon newness talks about a well, I talk about playing, but he calls it the legal spying. So the FBI needed. Now illegal reason with a lot of that broke down because people started to say, hey, what's going on over here with the NSA database? I think they were afraid of whistleblowers they wanted to put a legal face on the spine. So they go to the Pfizer court. They go to the Pfizer court with this Russian collusion fairy tale that comes from one spot sorry for rehashing this, but it's important and one spot only Joe Biden math one spot only one spot only. Hey comes from the dossier. I'm putting up four fingers for you audio listeners. So for Bob Muller to rescue the reputation of the FBI that sunk their legal Pfizer court spying sunk their reputation into the dossier Muller has to do what? He has to put some teeth on the dossier and make it appear semi-legitimate. So that later on his buddies and pals in the FBI Komi Baker remember Muller's career insider will look like, well, this was just an honest mistake. We got a warrant to spy. It was a credible source and Christopher Steele and information just turned out to be bad in the end. But look in the end, we eventually got some really bad guys in jail. I wrote it down like this the FIS as plan b the dossier is the Pfizer Muller follows the dossier as a roadmap. That's the whole point of book to how Muller and their final chapters. How Muller follows the dossier like a roadmap to rescue is buddy Komi in the FBI to make it appear that the dossier had some meat on the bone. Okay. Is that makes sense? Yeah. Yeah. You're cool ombudsmen Joe. And it's just too hard. Oh. All right. I just I haven't got an e mails where people are confused in a long time. So that's why I rely on. And I know some of you, and I understand you say, well, will you repeat yourself? I do I get it. And I understand that ladies and gentlemen, but I do it. So when you leave this show, there's no doubt. So I believe the mullahs report which is going to drop tomorrow, then Yana is going to cover two basis base. Number one is what I just described. It is going to be a report that tries to legitimise the dossier. That is illegitimate. It is going to do that by making the people in the dossier and the spying component seem legitimate. Because the people they were spying on were really bad guys. Okay. Secondly, the new standard the Democrats have put out for information that will be in this Muller report. I have no doubt is well, it's going to contain a lot of negative information about Trump, and we should use that negative information. Wow. That's hysterical. Joe negative information is the new standard. Are we serious negative information? So just to be clear. There's no probable cause to charge him with a crime, the Trump team and Trump himself ready collusion. Right. How do we know that? Because there are no one was charged with a crime for nobody popadopoulos. Not Flynn Cohen. No one was charged with conspiracy to collude with the Russians on behalf of the Trump team to overthrow the results of the election or toss him in a cast. Nobody was charged with that. So there was no evidence of a crime. So the Democrats who can't let that go will say, well, if there's enough negative information we're gonna use that I find this hysterical. Why Joe because Jim Comi gave July fifth twenty sixteenth speech about Hillary Clinton and our Email scandal that was about twenty straight minutes show of negative information about what Hillary did how they used horrible judgment. How they set up a private server in the original speech, they talked about her emailing Barack Obama from foreign soil that was wiped out later. This is all Joe gave information. Yes, sir. But notice how would it's negative information on Hillary and democrat cronies we're supposed to forget all of that dole. Ju- worry. That's not these are not the joy, you're looking for. This is not the negative information. You're looking for. But when it's negative information on Trump, then yes that negative information as Kostel should be used for impeachment. Character assassination should be used for repeated political attacks. The Muller report will serve up. I'm sure a bevy of negative information not related to any crime whatsoever. If I investigated, Joe Paula or anybody else with the assets applied to the Muller. Prob- I assure you, I'd find negative information. To definitely the question is was a crime committed and the answer is no. So when you're friends bring up the negative information standard, you should ask. Well, there's a negative information about Hillary count. What about the negative information about the Trump Tower meeting where the people that showed up had connections to Hillary Clinton and people weren't that's negative for that matter? No, no, not that negative information. Now, what about the Ukrainian lawmakers, sir? Hey, Lukashenko who Nellie your admits? They were getting information from fusion GPS while they were under contract with Hillary. In other words, the textbook definition of foreign collusion. What about that then negative if no that negative information doesn't matter either? This is your answer. I'm setting you up crowd ball ground ball, bugged, you go. But you want to keep the bat they descend to the bad high. When you're bumping it's important if you different low you'll pop it up. I love baseball my favorite keep DEP. Remember catch the ball with the bat. There you go. This is a bunt member. My big fat Greek wedding. It's a bunch of cake. A a bud member that about what members they bring you bundt cake. I love thought what's up? This is a bunt when they tell you. I let full of negative information. Okay. Great. So negative information is all the new standard for destroying the character. Let's go down the list Hillary connections to the people and Trump that Trump Tower means that matter on that do you cranes? What about that? What about the Hillary Email skill the stuff that came out with that that scandal that was Obama what about Benghazi IRS fast? Various that was all negative information. No, no. No. No. None of that matters. Moving on. That's the Meghan of information. I'm telling you heard it here. I you're going to hear and you're gonna laugh now I had a bunch of information in there the second point on. This Muller report is going to be to character. Assassinate people involved in the largest components of the scandal to rescue the dossier in the reputation of the FBI. Let's go to this Paul Sperry piece. I in real clear investigations. Let me say see we're working on a trick. Here. My wife, and I my. Nice my wife, and I were engaged in verbal judo before this Paula the lover it at that. But she's mad at me right now, Paula how married are you me at a scale of one to ten. She's a fifteen I'm not kidding. By the way. This is a real show. This is a real husband wife duo, very upset me. But we work in on a sign because sometimes when we do this stuff, I don't give the proper queues. So this is my sign. Why folks if you're missing this on audio YouTube dot com slash bunch of one more time with his on swing? So she inside it was right up there. You like to sign. Yeah. This is not a comedy show today. I'm sorry. I'm just really fired up about all this crap. Gone mean, it I'm really upset, and I've tried to put on a good show for you the room, I rage. It's burning in me. Right. Yeah. Thank you you like so real clear investigations, Paul Sperry. A terrific researcher. I highly recommend you follow him on Twitter. He has this piece up the GOP fears Muller's collusion bias lives on in a final report. I've told you from the start the whole purpose of the Muller investigation is the cover up all this nonsense. Right. So Sperry writes in the piece that they're afraid that it's going to be tainted. And it's going to be tainted in such a way to make this collusion story appeal reappear real why Joe because remember defies is plan b the dossier is the Pfizer. If Muller can make collusion at least appear real in his report, it will make the dossier seem somewhat credible and save the reputation of the F B. Okay. Sperry writes in the piece, I nip it. There you go. Now. Everybody is going to wait for the sun. Okay. Senior Republicans committees on Capitol Hill or reviewed some of the same evidence Muller's investigators have examined complain that the special counsels team of mostly democrat prosecutors have shaded evidence charging documents filed against a number of Trump associates for process crimes on related to collusion mostly lying to investigators to suggest the broad conspiracy. They say that the special counsel and prosecutors misled the court, and we go and the media by among other things editing the contents of emails listen to this gets great to cast the sinister shadow on otherwise innocuous communications among Trump advisors. And by omitting exculpatory information, why that was a really. Long way of saying the Muller team or a bunch of hacks that are fabricating a story out of thin air about Russian collusion selectively using emails, and when the Email say the opposite of what they want you to believe that Trump colluded with the Russians what do they do they leave those emails out exhibit one? Here we go. George Papa D Papa diso Papa D is the key. I did the sign sign sign. They cite. Here we go about popadopoulos. In charge documents against popadopoulos quoting pulse. Berries piece. This is fascinating. They cite charging documents filed against Trump advisors. George popadopoulos Michael Cohen, and Lieutenant General Flynn is examples the indictments that were made by the mother team are very questionable, and there's pieces of them that read like Russian spy novel said Republican Devin newness, the top Republican on the house Intel committee. This was done on purpose. He added to create a narrative to make the American people think as they were indicting these people that this someone had this had to do with collusion with Trump campaign and Russia, what is newness referring to at one point in the charging documents. There's a footnote that sites in Email with pop mentioning popadopoulos or and mentioning low level campaign surrogates going Russia. Russia's tries Tucker Carlson to watch out. Joe? They got him today. God him. Bingo. Win a win a chicken dinner in the charging. Document for popadopoulos to be clear. There's a footnote in there about low level campaign surrogates in other words, popadopoulos going to Russia. That's it Joe. What else we got it collusion? Stun maybe go hook line at secrets efficient Poland here. We got him get him in. What's the problem with that? Well, what's left out of the charging document an Email from the Trump campaign saying we won't be doing these meetings forbidding them from going to Russia? Yep. Dude, dude, dude. This is what I'm talking about. Let me have set my buddy to seventy nine too busy brings this up. All the time. Ladies and gentlemen evidence. Does not mean a crime was committed. Okay. Right. Can we be clear on this? That's why it's called evidence and not proof. Joe simple question. I'm going to go back to why this matters Republic and how disingenuous this Muller scam is okay. If a Bank is robbed in your neighborhood. I know where Joe lives and Joe is near that Bank. And the time it is rob would that be considered evidence that you could have robbed the Bank could be. Yes, yes. They could be correct now is that proof beyond a reasonable doubt or evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. That you know, there are a lot of reasonable doubts, right? Joe could have been going to the supermarket Joe could have just been driving by while the Bank was robbed. If we find out later that Joe in fact has receipts that he was in the TJ Maxx down the block at that time. It was just passing by and is on video camera timestamped in the TJ Maxx, while the Bank is being robbed. There is evidence show was there at the scene of the Bank robbery and evidence suggesting joke, didn't rob the Bank. Thank you. Now, do you think you put you do you understand? Now, why negative information? Neg. There's information about Trump is not a standard negative information. Meaning was that George popadopoulos is in some Email chain about low level campaign surrogates going to Russia. Wow. That sounds pretty negative. You're trying to prove Russian collusion until you read the Email with the Trump campaign telling them, we're not going to Russia, and you're not either. We will not be doing these meetings. That's at the evidence. What they're stand. Now, why the Republicans are worried? Folks to be crystal clear, nobody rational in DC on the Republican side or even a rational democrat. If there is one left anymore his worried about Trump collude. There's no collusion. It's dead. Forget it's not going to happen. Don't worry about that. That is not going to be in there. But they are legitimately worried that the mullahs report is going to contain evidence entirely out of context, context matters. There was a mugging on Armacost corner. Joe how to do it? How do we know because he was home at that time? So what does that mean? Well, he was in the area. So no, so we're five thousand other people, but how to be Joe because I think he colluded with the Russians. What are you talking about? This is what Muller is doing. He is painting a picture for you pretty pretty little tree like Bob Ross. Put a little lake little river for his cautious or the waterfall member. Bob Ross little rushing over there yet. Rush said right, Bob solar Muller is the Bob Ross of federal prosecutors little low level campaign worker right over happen campaign. To stop. You're gonna make me laugh. I was more fun. But I was at a bad mood. I'll make me laugh. Okay. So just style back a bit here. What we're talking about again, two things in the report negative information out of context, which I wouldn't be surprised about it all and efforts to rescue the dossier. Popadopoulos portion of it is going to be an effort to rescue something other than the dossier. The popadopoulos portion is going to be an effort to rescue the DOJ the FBI or because we're not sure who was managing this the international Intel community that actors friendlies with the United States from their entrapment scheme using Josef Mifsud against popadopoulos. Paint popadopoulos is really bad guy that way when it comes out that friendly Intel agencies. We're trying to entrap George popadopoulos on behalf of the Obama administration Intel officials and others who wanted to make them look like a bad guy to destroy the Trump campaign and paint them with this Russian colluded label that didn't that was nonsense. If we can pay pop it up. Listen to Muller report is a really bad guy. We will rescue component one the entrapment scheme. Component to that needs to be rescued. Is going to be the spying scheme, which intersects with Carter page and the dossier. They're not discreet elements, but somebody initiated this human spying scheme. So again, I'm telling you the Muller report. I find it highly likely based on Muller's previous behavior in charging documents that the second component of this is going to be to paint Flynn as a really bad guys. Well in his report, he prosecuted popadopoulos, he prosecuted Flint now, we're basing this and sperry's piece is about Mike Flynn on sperry's peace and his reading of the charging documents, which we've covered on the show before remember in the charging documents for pajamas. Hold that up there. Hold up, the first thing and the charging documents for popadopoulos. He doesn't mention that the, you know, the emails about don't go to Russia. Look what happened with Flynn? From the peace. Republicans say the special counsel also demonstrated collusion bias and its complaint against Mike Flynn. Former prosecutors say. Muller charged the retired general with lying FBI investigators about his conversation with the Russian ambassador during the transition, even though one of the investigators Trump critic Peter stroke, quote had the impression at the time. That Flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying. According to the FBI's own internal documents. In fact, former FBI director James Comey has said Flynn provided truthful answers and wasn't intentionally misleading. Investigators on January twenty four twenty seventeen when he was questioned. Folks, we sensing a little bit of a pattern here. So popadopoulos gets prosecuted by Muller for nothing related to collusion. But writes about a whole bunch of ridiculous Russia nonsense, and the charging documents unrelated entirely too misstatements to the FBI popadopoulos made in there. He leaves out the scope Atari information telling popadopoulos, oh, there's not to go to Russia. And he repeats the exact same pattern with Mike Flynn. Now would pop it up. They gotta keep the heat off the entrapment. They tried to entrap him with Flynn. They have to keep the heat off the human spying component. Which was being. I've no question anymore was being managed through Stefan helper, a noted informant for the CIA FBI that appears has a bug in for Flynn. I don't know who puts them up to it. But as far back as twenty fourteen appears to be informing on Mike Flynn who is a noted critic of the Obama administration and their policy on Bo terrorism and the Iran deal. They have to pay Papa D is a bad guy. Because then they can say what Joe well, we were trying to entrap them because we thought he was Russia. He was dealing with the Russians they have to paint Flynn as a bad guy. Why were you spying on Flint using a human intelligence s a spy? Well, he was a really bad guy. Joe? So we just had to do it. Okay. Cool. Watts. Watch for this in the Muller Muller report watch for how they write about popadopoulos watch to see if they include the Flynn, the fact that the F B, I didn't think he was lying even though they charged with lying watch. How that is all magically left out. It's not information watch. If you don't know that the negative information is spin left out of context, you'll be under the assumption that this isn't some way damaging in Email to set up a foreign meeting and Russia isn't even damaging itself. It's even less damaging when you find out the campaign said, we're not doing those meetings. I got one more here for you. Get to this ad. These are great companies or here with us. They love to be here. They love to talk to you. And I like work with today's show. Also brought to you by buddies at policy genius. He believes already APRIL's crazy time is a habit of getting away here. 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They say Muller used the so-called Moscow project talks Trump's hope to build a skyscraper in Russia to connect Trump directly to flatter me or Putin during the campaign while withholding from the court details that would exonerate Trump of such collusion. Again. Another example of them painting Cohen and his role is a middleman. Coens on a good guy, by the way. I don't trust Cohen as far as I can throw them. And I couldn't throw him far. But they're trying to paint cO. It is some kind of conduit between Trump and Vladimir Putin, remembering the dossier Coen's, the guy who sets up the payments for this whole scandal to get the DNC emails from WikiLeaks and the Russians and the payoff these key figures in the Russian government. It's all fake. That's the problem. So Papa D. They got to save in trapping. And the reason for doing it with Mike Flynn. They gotta save themselves from the use of a foreign spy. Wow limits. A bad guy with Cohen, they have to save the dossier. Cohen is a key figure in the dossier. And I will say it again, the FIS was plan b. And the dossier is the Pfizer in order for Mollah to save their reputation. He has to put meat on the bone. He has to show Cohen is a really bad guy who was working with the Russians and had deep connections of ladder, MIR Putin, what's the problem? Joe? They didn't have those connections in the pulse. Berry piece in the show notes is a hilarious part. Whereas. The Muller team junk emails to Putin. Folks. It was it was like an online dress that went to the basically like you Email in the White House with the public Email address sounds like they were very they were like this show. They were really coming. Couldn't even get in private Email address for anybody in the Kremlin. Oh, wow. Was he was he in deeper what he was like the Sammy the bull. John gotti. Are you kidding me with this stupidity? So the point of choline is mother leaves out in significant charging documents the fact that all of these communiques with Russia about building a project over there one. We're totally legal. There's nothing illegal about a real estate developer building real estate in Russia or anywhere else as they don't skirt the law here, and that's not what anybody's alleging that's never been charged. And even worse making it seem like there was some back channel as pulse. Berry says in the piece he quotes an inside over there's absurd Cohen had such a backchannel Joe that they had an Email like, hey, Email us at info at White House. Whatever. You know, where that goes in the circular fall somewhere, right, folks. There's no backchannel. This is just Muller trying to rescue the dossier. It's sad. It's pathetic. It's pretty gross too. All right. Let me move on. Because I really hammered this over the last few days. But I think now if you really pay close attention to that, you know, exactly what's coming negative information, which you should respond back immediately. While negative information is not criminal, correct? Because if that was the case Hillary Clinton would be jailed ten times over also negative information. Followed up by scope attourney information means that the negative information wasn't really negative. Wasn't. You didn't do any of that homework. Did you get ready and read it for how it tries to paint a picture of Russian collusion that doesn't exist? There was no back channel. There was no Russian that met with popadopoulos agent of the Russian government. Mike Flynn was spied on. He was not connected to the Russians. He was not compromised by the Russians. This is all made up. It is a hoax. Ran a big one. You know, I just realized I want totally out of order for the show. So Paula will go back in order now. So not happy with me at all. Now that I went out of order. She's probably even less happy with me. It's like the war of the roses in here today. Remember that movie? Oh, yeah. Was that? Kathleen was that. Kathleen. No, no. That was the lady. Yes. It was Kathleen Turner, Michael Douglas. Yeah. We're the roses. Yeah. I remember that movie. That's what it's like in here. Today's a little rough. We're going to have to draw a line don't they draw a line down the middle of the house. From what I've just kidding, folks. It's not that. But just messing with you. It's you know, I gotta get Nabet because I'm. Right enough may complain. Bernie Sanders, and I told you I had a few more cuts from the disastrous townhall for birdie now for FOX the ratings were through the roof. It was the largest view down. All I take on any network, and I thought Bret Baier and Martha McCallum did a pretty darn good job. Listen, I don't say that. Because I worked there. I thought they did I wouldn't be using the sound bites. Otherwise, my show FOX doesn't tell me with the put on his show. There was one outstanding one. I thought was really classic when they McCallum tries to pin Bernie down a why he such a grotesque hypocrite again on taxes. He wants everyone else to pay more taxes, of course. But he doesn't want to pay him this as a good one. Asking you about the wealthy and how much higher you would make you said joint agreement seventy percent. What would your number be campaign two thousand sixteen? We talk about fifty two percent. All right. So pitchy percent. So would you be willing to pay fifty two percent on the money that you made you can volunteer? You can send volunteer to we how the. In your. More Kawano huge. If you make more money than Ryan. Well, tax and she's not running for pros big. We're gonna fight for well talks. And we're going to demand that we end the absurdity where major corporation after magical. But you know, what? Tax Bill, but you walk defending families like the corporate. Louis like the coke brothers. Get billions and billions of dollars in savings. Dotty is absurd. Trope watts to repeal the entire state tax you tax breaks for billionaires. You know, the question many questions. Listen, we wanna get subsidies. We wanna get deep and the audience has a ton of questions. You know, there's this cat my gym, right? This is cool guy. But he's like, I don't know he's sixty or so he looks younger than that. But I'm guessing he works out a lot, and he must be like a ballroom, dancer or something like that. Because he's always in there with one of those like unweighted bars, and he's always doing like, some odd, not a dancer. I'm I'm as flexible as a fire hydrant, I couldn't. Although this guy no says identify my wedding. And did a good job. There's significant portions of my wedding. I do not remember I had nothing to do with the alcohol. I'm just saying someone told me I was good dancer. Paula was I good dancer. Yeah. She says I was excellent. I don't remember that much but the guy in gyms dance. He does this these really smooth to and people watch him. Sometimes why am I bringing? Did you see Bernie dancing? Morton McCallum asks him a simple question, Jude while she doesn't call him, dude. But I can tude you're proposing. A fifty two percent tax for millionaires who are a millionaire. Why not just pay the tax retired about the coke prowlers? Let me tell you about Donald Trump. It's a matter of fact, I saw this movie once when I was a kid old yeller. This was a really good movie. Cisco neighbor gave it to thumbs up. It was the story Bernie what the hell are you talking about? I asked you a simple question. Are you gonna pay tax rate? You want the other millionaires like you to pay? Let me tell you about the burgers at McDonalds my corner, they are good burgers. Let me tell you. They put extra pick. Calls on McDonald's. Burgers on the corner. Yeah. There's is a good burger. I don't want to be told McDonald as a bad Berga. Bernie come. We're going to try this one more time. Okay. You are suggesting millionaires like you limousine. Libs and limousine conservatives to you are suggesting they should pay a fifty two percent tax rate. Are you gonna pay that rate and lead by lot to-? You Marta, you make more money than I do Marta Martin with a great comeback. Hey, Bernie, I'm not running for president. And I'm not suggesting a fifty two percent tax rate. Knuckleheads marta. Let me tell you about the coke brothers. Yeah. Or are they the Koch brothers? I don't know because I have a hard time, spelling they are really bad matter of fact, a coke brothers. I saw this guy one time what at a brothers. And I wanted a backhand. And I couldn't do it. Because it's a guest the law mater, Marcus got to be looking at this guy. Like, I'm sorry, folks. I'm enjoying this. Bernie Sanders stuff way too much. That was the worst answer I have ever and birdie takes this town hall was a huge success. Let me just put a little meat on the bone for you on like Bob Muller putting fake meat on the fake bone of the dossier. Speaking purely. Ideologically? What we stand for him what the lip stand for. We conservative Stanford economic freedom. We believe taxes should be collected and paid for it to pay for constitutional functions of government that there's widespread disagreement on. I mean, excuse me agreement on. Our military. Our military. Maybe the courts, I don't think we everything should be taxed at the local level. But you get the hand. There's no Apocrypha see there. Liberals want a tax to pay for economic growth. They want taxes to pay for schools. They want taxes to pay for everything your healthcare your retirement via social security. Yet. Liberals don't want to voluntarily pay that what's my point here. My point folks is there is no hypocrisy with conservatives. We donate extra money to things like charity and things like that. Because we believe it is a net. Good, my wife, and I thank too many of you by some of our products out there, especially some of the shirts. We we sell it a website. We donate all of our proceeds to charity no-one forces us to do it. It's not written in our contract with the t shirt company. We went up nor we looking for anybody's Pat on the back. We do it. Because we genuinely believe it will change someone's life for the better. We've joke. I know. Joe gives a lot of time to church. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to Joe if you're with it, if you're not you can you control the podcast, you can go out yourself school, but just tell policy she cut it had a video. But Joe donates a lotta time church. He's a performer in a lot of time. I know it's time because sometimes I talked him and he's tired on Monday. Nobody forces Joe to do it. Nobody. He does it because he thinks he's creating a net public good. It's a spiritual experience. He wants people to feel the tunes. They don't wanna have to pay someone. So Joe does it no one forces them to do it. My point here folks is the liberal philosophies that government is a public. Good government should pay for economic growth should pay for your retirement, you pay for your school should pay for your hair care should pay for your toenail care your healthcare everything because it's a public good. So why don't people like Bernie voluntarily give extra money like conservatives due to charity? Why why do they have to be forced? I. Bernie has to be forced how do we know? Because Martha asked him if he gave the extra money over and he wouldn't answer. Well, not give extra body. Let me tell you about Burger King. He doesn't want to answer the question. Because he's a fraud. You're not a fraud. Be proud of that. You know, what's also fascinating. One more thing in this ranking a couple of things here. Jim sorry. They constantly. I played a clip awhile back. No, Miki constant other liberal who was on Tucker Carlson show, who I know more. I'm gonna say person, but only personal for it. But I know from FOX he's not personally, but she said something interesting sick. Well, these individual choices to pay more taxes aren't gonna make a difference. Ladies and gentlemen, the whole world is individual choices people in government who vote vote individuals that they don't have a collective hive mind, folks. So what you're saying is individuals won't make a difference because they can't be trusted to do the right thing and have to be forced to pay higher taxes than why are the same individuals when we elect them to government. Why can they be trusted? If you can't trust individuals. This is the sound of me scratching my head on the YouTube. Have you? Do you understand how every argument liberals? Make is just dumb. You can't trust individuals to pay higher taxes because they won't do it. Why? Because they're bad. Okay. Well, who makes the choices on the tax rates and covered individuals. I thought you said they were bad. No, no. When they get government or good. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Thank you. Thanks for clearing that up fellas. All right. Another gem of a Bernie moment. This one is this. I heard this and the car I was in the car with my daughter. I think I was with Isabelle my daughter, and I said to Isabel did you hear what he just said. This is Bernie Sanders. They're asking a question about felons in prison voting this answer. I'd say shock you. But giving his Bernie it might not. Murderers, and rapists or themes, try molester should have the right to vote from prison pushing this was in my state. Recently research. It turns out that our constitution in the state of Vermont for hundreds of years. Everybody has the right to vote. Okay. So I think you make this division. If somebody does something terrible, their rapists, murderers, we send them away. Sometimes we sent him away from life. But I also think that integral to who we are as Americans about what kind of terrible things you you're paying the price. Maybe you're jail for the rest of your life. But you have the right to. I'm not kidding. My looked at my daughter. I said is about did you hear it? He's you said is Pollock get his about is this chief she in. I'm not making this up. I I said I turned to in the car is did you hear what this country said this guy wants murderers and rapists in prison to be able to vote Joe has this guy taught this to. Yes, are the murderers, rapists mode. There's a what did he say? By the way, this is. This is not who we are. Yes. No it. We are not murderers, rapists, birdie, Bank, fully that's a very small sliver of the population. Who says not who we all stopping murderers and rapists. No, wait is birdie. Murderers, rapists, felons in prison. Don't get the vote. Joe has he thought through the potential conundrum that may be here Imos prisoners can vote and prisoners, by the way who largely have to change their residency requirements because they're in prison and are all populated in one specific area. Say they're in a prison in western Maryland area. Joe's familiar with with prisons. You would have a bunch of prisoners. Some who don't even didn't even grow up there who are in jail who can vote on the local policies impacting their own sensing elsewhere. Oh, isn't that a great idea? By the way, a lot of these prisons are concentrated minority communities. How does that make you feel don't worry folks in minority communities? The Democrats are in it for you. They want people transplanted into your communities in prison. Murderers, rapists to be able to vote in your community. Good job. Well, done Democrats way to be in it for the little guy. Oh my gosh. The knucklehead wishes I wanna is about to do a guests appears. 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Get in the way of telling us, how sees a real warrior for the cost. She ran Amazon out of New York over a tax break. And then the story the story describes excuse me book company. She was. And in this book company, she wanted to get a tax break. So you don't like tax breaks unless they benefit you. But again, the AFC support it doesn't matter. They were tweeting me all day 'cause I have it up on dot com to this is Parker. See Adam son's a big company, and she's small company in that tax break is different. Yeah. Okay. Whatever did you find you. Keep telling yourself that that makes sense to you. I'm very short does your skull. What is that about four? There's your skull your skull protrudes out to here. You gotta go. Marshon helmet. I got this laser thing. Right. That helps me with my joints. Maybe this laser thing. It's like this help your brain activity to right gosh. I mean, he to rescue brains matter of fact, we take a beat twelve Charlotte. That's the beat the vitamin twelve. I mean, maybe it'll save some Noorani after listening to Bernie. We're on a roll today. Joe? Yeah. I got an Email some supporter of the show was like man, I love your show. But he thinks the UT thinks the mic the Mike here. He thinks that distracts from the show. I don't think it's the real, Mike. It's not like, rob, folks. This wire goes to an amp and we record the podcast audio different. That's why it sounds different the podcast for the for the videos right here. You see this little thing here. Sometimes you can see it. So it's not a prop. This is how we do the show. And I'm sorry. If it bothers you a little bit, but he thinks some YouTubers don't like to see microphones. Hey, so I love you too. But it's part of the show always has been. All right. Final story today. CNS news, which there's some really great reporting this story in the show notes bore taxes theory breaking out Joe the misinformation on what's going on with tax policies countries, legion here's a piece by Terence. Jeffrey who does a lot of phenomenal work on this topic Joe hundred? And fifty million people filed their one hundred fifty million let me just say this correctly. There were a hundred fifty million tax returns filed right in the season. Fifty million a third of those filers paid zero dollars or less than income taxes? So ladies, you want to be clear because you burn it. We're gonna pay the. Yeah. The rich are not paying sure it is on the poor. Actually, Bernie, a third of people are paying no taxes at all. Listen, I get it. I know Bernie's you burn field field burns. I know you're not interested in facts and data. Okay. I know that but to the same people out there. Listen to my show, a third of people who file taxes or third of the filings are no tax liability at all. And a snapshot from this piece describes it right here. Thirty three point four percent were classified is non-taxable returns meeting people who follow them pay zero dollars less. Here's the kicker. It gets better at the same time. Joe eighty percent of all income taxes. In other words, eighty cents of every dollar of income taxes paid that year. Where paid by tax return filers at adjusted gross incomes, one hundred thousand dollars of your gut tough pay your fair share? Okay, Bernie, so people who make one hundred thousand dollars or more are currently paying eighty dollars out of every hundred dollars in income taxes. What is your fair share? Bernie. Let me tell you a story. I have this nail clipper, and this will clip a nail like no tomorrow. It's got a little thing on the side for the ladies a little blue for the jets. And if you get a hangnail, this is the nail clipper for you. Birdie you ever going to answer the fair show? Let me tell you about this remote control. This will control. This TV just one. Oh, all right Bernie. Thank you. Okay. Clearly, not going to get to the fair share thing. People making over one hundred thousand paid eighty percent of the taxes. Another portion of the back. Snippet from it. This was that. No, no. That wasn't sorry. It was all two point say see, I'm confused on my wife. I'm confused. My wife who was already a fifteen and is clearly annoyed at my Bernie Sanders. We may be implying this often. To the chagrin of Betty on another piece. This is that this is the tax misinformation segment Matt Palumbo. My resident fact checker Bongino dot com. Read wrote, a great piece will be the show say please read it please supporters work, by the way, he has a book coming out. What's the name of his book? Oh, man, Paula you remember the name of his book. I forgot the name of it. Hold on, folks. I gotta look this up because you please support Matt. This is a great book Palumbo. I'm actually looking up now in Amazon is it. It's really fantastic Palumbo. See what comes up spy gate book. He helped me research with whole lot folks. Listen to it's not a live show. But I treat it like a should just give me a second. Because this is such a good book. And I wanna give this here. It is here. It is the book is called the bunk. This shattering liberal is it is available on Amazon. This is an awesome book. I've previewed a copy I wrote the forward go check it out the bunk by Matt Palumbo if you ever. Wanted to the bunk arguments by liberal friends. This is the way to go. Matt wrote a great piece most Americans believe this liberal lie on tax day. Well, he covers to specific things piece. Number one is that well, we didn't get a tax cut. The Trump plan basically screwed us over we're in the middle class. And we're we're we're poor. We didn't get a tax cut that is not true as Matt points out in the peace and does a really good job. He's read it a better way to look at the Trump tax brackets, and how they affected the rich and poor would be to look at how it changed the distribution of taxes before the Trump tax cuts the bottom eighty percent of earners paid roughly thirty three percent of all federal income taxes, but ladies and gentlemen, they received thirty five percent of the benefits from the Trump tax cuts. The bottom eighty percent received thirty five percent of the benefits despite only paying thirty three percent of all the taxes. The top one percent pay twenty seven percent of all federal taxes but only received twenty one percent of the tax cut. According to the center left leaning tax policy center. The only. Who ended up paying more to the Trump tax cuts with those weather deductions capped at ten thousand for state and local taxes those caps affected eight percent of tax payers, but most still saw that benefits from the tax cut. Folks, if you don't think you gotta tax cut. The probability is you are wrong. The probability is high that you have been misled. Second point that only the rich benefited from this Matt brings up in his piece, which is a good one as well. I'm sorry. He's talking about the misinformation campaign now, I want to show you how the left is actually celebrating the misinformation campaign to get people to believe a few things what we addressed in the CNN piece that the middle class bear most of the tax Pertz, not true the upper middle class and the wealthy deal. Secondly that the that the poor being raked over the coals by our taxes. And it's not true. Fifty percent. Thirty percent of tax filings fifty million of them show, no income, tax liability at all. The income tax Trump cuts by Trump only benefit the rich. Not true just showed you that. Again, how the largest percentage of the tax benefits went to people at the bottom of the income spectrum there eighty percent at the bottom eighty percent, not the top one percent. But look at this tweet by noted propagandist than gas lighter, Mattie. He glazes who blocked me on Twitter, which is cool. I block everybody in the universe to at times. Mattie, glaciated vox vox with V not f-, not FOX vox, this is a left leaning site. He's proud of himself. John harwood. NBC guy tweets wonder, the Trump GOP tax cut is so unpopular just seventy percent of Americans think their taxes were cut. That is not the case folks, the overwhelming majority of America's got a tax cut. Listen to Mattie, gracie's, Tweety, seventy celebrating this show. Nobody likes to give themselves credit for this kind of messaging success, but progressive groups that are really good job of convincing people that Trump raise their taxes when the facts say clear majority got a tax cut. They love it. The left is celebrating the fact that they lied to. You remember gas lighting is? Gas lighting is telling someone ally, your taxes weren't cut saying confidently. Everybody knows your taxes weren't cut and then repeatedly saying it while isolating people from the truth. The truth is the overwhelming majority of Americans upwards of eighty ninety percent of them did. In fact, get a significant tax cut when you isolate people from the truth, and you don't put that out there. Of course, they're going to believe your gas lighting lies. All right, folks. Thanks for tuning please. Again, pick up a copy of match books. So I think we want back and forth on the title of few times. And he's just putting the finishing touches reason. I couldn't remember it. But it's fantastic book the bunk this he's a good friend. He writes, great articles on the website to bunk this available on Amazon by Matt Palumbo. Go. Check it out this all kinds of tidbits of information. Like, this you need to debate your liberal friends prior to twenty twenty election. Hey, thanks again for tuning him. The visuals on this show. Maybe a little different. 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Ep. 828 - Sharptons Democrats

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Ep. 828 - Sharptons Democrats

"President trump attacks Al Sharpton so Democrats rushed to his defense. The media continue to push the trump is racist narrative and we preview the democratic debates tonight. This is the Ben Shapiro show sorry for the late start guys but as it turns out when you're on an internet company one of the things that you need needed Internet we did not have that finally we have achieved connection and now we begin okay so the big story of today is the continuing fight between president trump and pretty much everybody. I think it's fair to say at this point. President trump was at war with Elijah Cummings. You'll recall that over the weekend. The president went after the city of Baltimore. He said that it was rat infested. He said that it was terrible. Place to live all of that is kind of true and everybody went nuts. This was obviously racist. How could the president ribbons we legit Cummings Cummings? How could the President Ribbon to Baltimore and then people were like Oh yeah it's Baltimore and that city is not well run and the riots they're like four years ago and it has some of the highest crime rates in America and it has tremendous pockets of poverty and people living in absolute penury and rundown conditions people who are trying to displace in their home water to fire hydrants? Just the day can live in these derelict houses so kind of trump's not wrong as an enemy music no no he no tenure that Racist Racist is to criticize Baltimore Racist to point out the Baltimore is not a great place to live and doesn't matter that trump has said before that New Hampshire was drug infested then if he used the word infestation that means he was referring to black and Brown people when he said that no people wanna live there he didn't mean that people are actively moving out and that as of the last Census Baltimore had lost population nation as it has been doing for decades know what he meant was that everyone who lives there is not a human being in the media painted this ridiculous narrative okay so then the president decided to open up his guns on on another front. He decided to go after Al Sharpton so today the President tweeted ever yesterday. He tweeted out quote. I've known for twenty five years is all because Al Sharpton decided to go to Baltimore Baltimore because this is what Al Sharpton does Al Sharpton is basically a we the people concert at halftime of the Super Bowl in nineteen eighty-seven basically just parachutes right into the center of a controversy entre mercy and then he stands there and goes give me money that is L. sharpens routine. He's done it for years. It's Donald Trump tweeted out. I've known L. for twenty. Five years went to fight with him. In Don. King King always got along well. He loved trump he would ask me for favors often. AL is a conman a troublemaker always looking for a scar something talk about the fact that president trump does not see the contradiction between the first half of his statement and the other half take we are best friends uh so he's a piece of crap and always has has been and continues just doing his thing must've intimidated comcast N._B._C. hates whites and cops now. It is fair to say et. Al Sharpton is a conman a troublemaker always looking for a score that is exactly what Al Sharpton is. Al Sharpton is the worst Al Sharpton is a pile of race baiting garbage he has been since he jumped onto the national scene. How bad is Al Sharpton Robert F Kennedy Jr. who has no right winger once wrote in his diary quote Al Sharpton has done more damage to the black 'cause than George Wallace his suffocated the decent black leaders in New York his transparent venal blackmail and extortion schemes taint all black black leadership R._F._K.? Junior trapped in a buffoon who gave them the creeps and then because Sharpton was given all sorts of media attention then R._F._k.. Junior backed down when the diary became public public then he called him an extraordinary national leader over the past decade which is the way that all of this works always is always works where where you criticize people oh correctly and then the media go crazy and then back down well. Trump is not one for backing down on all this the reason that Sharpton ended up with a primetime spot on M._S._N._B._C.. If you you go back is that in two thousand eleven M._S._N._B._C. President Phil Griffin decided to hire Sharpton after Sharpton got into a spat with young Turks host Chink Eiger who used to have a show on M._S._n._B._C. M._S._N._B._C. and eiger accused Griffin of Kowtowing to the White House Ray and then Griffin touted Sharpton said I've known Reverend Sharpton for over a decade. I have tremendous respect for him. He's always been one of our most thoughtful and entertaining guests and thrilled. He's now reached a point in his career where he's able to devote himself to hosting a nightly show. His show has never gotten anything close to good ratings ratings in a second. I WanNa talk about exactly how Al Sharpton was revitalized in the American public because he was basically out of the American public I for a couple of decades there because everybody knew what con Manny was and then he was restored to a point of gory by none other than Barack Obama. We'll get to that in just saying but first president trump he tweeted out if the Democrats are going to defend the radical Michael Left Squad and Kenya Lives Baltimore Fail it will be a long road to twenty twenty. I'm not sure where he's getting the King Elijah stuff. I guess that's his new nickname for illogic by the way it's pretty well respected acting on both sides of the aisle as somebody who at least treats Republicans with some modicum of decency trump tweeted if the Democrats are going to defend the radical of squatting he lodges Baltimore Fail It will be a long long road two thousand twenty the good news for Dem's that they have the fake news media in their pocket. Okay fact check true on everything except for the King Elijah thing everything else true president trump has gift his gift that no matter what he does Democrats will oppose it as I said yesterday on the show. I have a three year old. My three year old refuses to eat the way that I get him to eat is by saying to him. Do not eat that. Donald trump basically does that by just saying that he doesn't like something he'll be like cancer. It's the worst I hate. Cancer been fighting against Canton Malet L._A.. Democrats would be like cancer. How could you fight against cancer? Why would you fight against cancer cancer's? The best pancreatic stage four cancer is the greatest whatever trump trump attacks Democrats decided to defend now. They're defending now. They're defending Al Sharpton. The New York Times headlines All of this this way trump widens war on black critics well embracing acing quote inner city pastors so obviously this is racial thing. It's not just the trump doesn't like Al Sharpton and doesn't like you Elijah Cummings and this morning by the way attacked Mika Brzezinski and Joe Joe Scarborough went after them brutally has just reminded my staff that morning Joe and psycho this is his nickname for Mika Brzezinski which is just delightful that the president of the United States just 'cause people people psycho just reminded my staff that morning Joe and psycho where with me and my room at their request night I wonder Hampshire likewise followed me to other states. Don't don't watch oh but heard me Kosei. I asked to preside over the marriage not true. Does anyone really believe that they were married by Elijah King of Baltimore Okay but last I checked Mika Brzezinski Pretty White Joe Scarborough Pretty White so I'm pretty sure that is not in fact a racial attack. Nonetheless The New York Times Times says it's all about race Peter Baker Maggie Haberman reporting president from widened his war on critics of color on Monday with new attacks on Reverend Al Sharpton now. Why is it that it's always critics of color? Why does it have critics? He Attack Nancy Pelosi. Yesterday he attacked Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski or both white today but apparently trump only attacked black people. I mean you'll you'll have to forgive every other Republican candidate in two thousand sixteen for thinking differently. 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Nobody's GonNa believe you anymore but according to the New York Times in a third straight day of broadsides odd sides against black figures MR trump denounce Mr Sharpton on twitter as a con man who hates whites and cops and again a sales representative Elijah Cummings in his baltimore-based district drawing rebukes from Maryland Republicans Republicans as well as Democrats Mr Trump's determination to intensify the fuhrer rather than move on guaranteed it would continue to dominate the political debate in Washington and force many of the president's fellow Republicans Publican's to choose whether to stand by him break with him or in the case of most find a way to keep out of the discussion the president linked to clash with Mister Cummings to his earlier demand that four democratic congresswoman of color go back to their home countries and cast it in electoral terms well. No that's not what he did. He did not hearken back to the go back to the home country's tweet he you just said if the Democrats are going to defend the squad and Baltimore. It's going to be a long road to twenty twenty. That part is true now. What trump is neglecting to mention is that while a lot of members of his base are sort of cheering during this sort of thing on he does have to win some suburban women that would be a useful thing and you know what suburban women find off putting the president lashing out in every direction like a caged Hyena I I it's not a good book for the President of the United States so well? What he says about Baltimore is true and what he says about Al Sharpton is one hundred percent every sort of way true? Is it a good politics. Is it smart politics. I don't think so particularly now I guess the what trump is going for here is that it's year and a half out from the election and hopefully by the time I'm the election things will have died down but the quotes will remain forever because all the Democrats came out to defend L. Sharpton all of them universally see you had Kamala Harris defending Al Sharpton and she tweeted out the Reverend Al has spent his life fighting for what's right and working to improve our nation even in the face of hate. It's shameful yet unsurprising that trump would continue to attack those who have done so much for our country. Al Sharpton has done zero things for our country his done an incredible number of horrible things for our country. Al Sharpton is a blot on our republic public in terms of politics. He is just the worst give this is a man who's involved in inciting a program not once but twice once in Freddie's fashion mart and once in Crown Heights will go through all of it. This is a man who has injected himself into every race debate in the United States for the past several decades never to the positive this is a man who who created one of the worst rape hoaxes hoaxes in modern American history and slandered a prosecutor as a rapist for no reason other than his own self aggrandizement a man who earned his living by shaking walking down company after company on the basis of false accusations of racism and yet every Democrat is out of the woodwork defending this guy so I guess if the strategy here is that we'll get to use these quotes next year in the election and maybe it's a strategy or it could just be that trump is a creature of instinct and he says whatever he feels is on his mind at the time because here's the problem if this were all strategy edgy than you would imagine that a year from now as the election approaches trump would quiet down you really think trump is going to stop this stuff before the election or do you think that he's just going to continue to ratchet it up and alienate a lot of suburban women as I've been saying for this entire election cycle if trump's shuts up if we duct tape him if president trump duct tapes himself and goes down into the basement of the White House and watch a shark shark week stormy Daniels pornography until the election the dude will be president forever. If he continues to talk you will remind people that he exists and that's a problem because what twenty sixteen shows is is that if it's a referendum on Democrats Democrats lose what twenty twenty one twenty eighteen showed is if it's a referendum on trump and Republicans Republicans lose so trump's job now is to make this a referendum on Democrats which requires to Democrats to be crazy check and donald trump to not be the center of attention giant Fail Anyway the Democrats come out out in full force for Al Sharpton Elizabeth Warren tweets out the Reverend Al has dedicated his life to the fight for justice for all this is so sickening. It's so sickening. Al Sharpton is an unrepentant anti-semites. Al Sharpton is racist a real racist guy have proof of this Al Sharpton is one of the worst public actors of our lifetime most host black folks in America. Do not see Al Sharpton is a true racial leader. They may see a tax on Sharpton as racially motivated because the media have taught everybody in the country black white and green that any attack on somebody who is quote unquote a black leader even if that black leader's a bad person like Al Sharpton must be racially based campy based on the fact that Al Sharpton is garbage human nonetheless. I don't think most black people in America when they look for leadership look to Al Sharpton his a media appointed and self appointed arbiter of race in the United States and here are all the the Democrats coming out to tout him specifically. We know why this is happening. Right is happening for two reasons one to attack trump too because Elizabeth Warren thinks she's going to carve into the black vote The Al Sharpton and calling out these ongoing attacks on people of Color as Elizabeth Warren and then Joe Biden got into the act so Joe Biden should know better but of course he doesn't because Joe Biden for all the talk about Joe Biden being moderate not really all that moderate he's moderate when you look at the other Democrats which is like saying that Trotsky was moderate compared to win. Joe Biden says the Reverend Al is a champion in the fight for civil rights. The fact that president trump continues to use the power of the presidency to unleash racist attacks on the people he serves his despicable. This hate has no place in our country. It's beneath the dignity of the office kind of ironic for all these Democrats to be talking about the evils of hate well touting Al Sharpton while Sharpton himself responded he went onto and sharpening could not be happier happier about this right. I mean this is sharpens thing. What Sharpton is looking for is the spotlight trump just gave it to him? Basically we all now live in New York City Circa Nineteen ninety-one. It's donning outing from Queens versus Al Sharpton that is what our politics has become one second. WE'RE GONNA get to Al Sharpton response to President Trump and then I want to go through sharpens record. Just you know who the Democrats Democrats are. Defending today I these days a lot of workplaces offer employees. Some pretty nice perks so for example we only chain up our employees six hours a day. 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We've got to change our target where we start challenging the Republicans particularly those up for Centigrade. Is this year that you're going to stand up and really deal with the head of Your Party Donald Trump or oh you are the one that's going to suffer the consequences and make him to his own base inconsistent but use that to go after the senators and the Republican leadership that have line giant. He's while he's peddling racism and dividing this country we leading here everything is that Al Sharpton keeps tweeting pictures of himself with trump and from keep saying best friends with Sharpton and we hate each other. It's hilarious. It's hilarious because they did. They walked in the same circles in New York City. Al Sharpton tweeted out he put out on instagram. Actually a photo of himself said this is a two thousand six photo of Donald Trump at the national action network convention in New York in the photo. He's telling the Godfather of Soul James Brown and Reverend Jesse Jackson Jackson why despite the fact that marched on him throughout the years respecting my work now. I'm a comment and troublemaker. That's why he came to my events. You'RE RIGHT MR president. I'M GONNA keep making good trouble against racism and people like you normalize it but you're gonNA photo with him. You had them at your event. So on one hand you have trump going out sharpens. The worst also used to hang out together all the time and on on the other hand. You have Al Sharpton going. Donald trump is a racist and brutal and also we used to hang out together all the time what in the world also I will note here that Joe Scarborough sponsored a resolution condemning Al Sharpton back in the nineteen nineties for exactly the race Baiter and conman. He has now Joe Scarborough. Tout's that their friends what what has changed about Al Sharpton the answers absolutely nothing absolutely nothing has changed that Al Sharpton nonetheless you have Sharpton on the rampaging. What trump is doing here would make George Wallace blush really really? We've heard the George Wallace comparison a lot with regard to president trump. I don't like a lot of president trump's racial language. I've condemned it when he says something that I think is bad but George Wallace I maybe should spare the comparisons of president to George Wallace for the people who stand in school school door houses right that that school house doors the doorways blocking it segregation now segregation today segregation forever. Maybe should save the comparisons to people who are like forcibly in favor of state sponsored segregation Asian not for a dude who mouth off those talk radio caller navy that but al Sharpton says no no he's just like George Wallace a consistent pattern and a deliberate Britt political strategy that would make George Wallace blush. Would this president's doing. I remember as a kid I just become director of Operation Breadbasket New New York. George Wallace ran in sixty eight. George Wallace didn't do some of the thing that that in the campaign George Wallace was a terrible gosh stood in the door to university I Alabama but in the campaign he tried to dress it up more than what we're seeing this president well you know Kevin Known really not actually George Wallace again segregation Asian yesterday segregation today segregation forever no and as far as people who are racially divisive. I'm sorry Donald Trump does not come close to Al Sharpton. He does not now. Let's go throughout sharpens record since he he's apparently a person of justice and wonder according to M._S._N._B._C. and N._B._C. News apparently he is a person who has fought for justice for all according to Elizabeth Worn. He's a person who's a a good friend of Joe. Biden and Comma Harris Gate Al Sharpton is one of the most despicable people in American public life and has been for years. I used to run an organization called truth revolt. It was specifically specifically designed as a counter to media matters. Media matters is a horrible left-wing organization and all they do is they spend their days listening to conservative shows and then trying to drive boycotts against advertisers unconservative shows even those advertisers don't endorse the message they just want access to the audience and the advertisers advertise on a range of products. That's what media matters does so we decided added that we were going to launch a counter to media matters called truth revolt and we were going to go after advertisers on left and teach the left that this tactic amused on both sides because mutually assured our destruction. We said openly. We don't strategy but we'll do it. If you guys keep doing this routine. The first person We targeted was Al Sharpton why because Al Sharpton is the worst and it is inexcusable inexcusable inexcusable that M._S._N._B._C. found it necessary to put him on the air now they can do it. There are private company and my general perspective is if you actually don't like Al Sharpton. Don't watch your show and I'm not really going after advertisers other than to prove to left that this thing can be done on either side. I said so at the time with that said Al Sharpton is the worst he's the worst is so according to Stuart Stevens over at the daily beast this is circa two thousand seventeen. He goes through what Al Sharpton has done quote. The TAWANA Brawley case as the captivated New York in the late eighties is shocking reminder of the toxic mix racial exploitation and personal ambition can produce the New York Times and Retro report have just released a new fifteen minutes documentary on the despicable host hoax which should be required viewing for N._B._C.. News executives are heavily invested in rehabbing a key culprit of this loathesome episode. The Reverend Al Sharpton Upton Bradley was fifteen years old in nineteen eighty-seven when she was found in her hometown of wapner falls New York with K._K._k.. And The N. word written on her stomach her jeans burnt in the crock feces in her hair and her tennis shoes sliced open. She said she'd been abducted and raped by group of Whiteman. A trio of increasingly prominent and radical New York City black activists represented her and her family early attorneys Alton Maddox and seaver Mason and Reverend Al Sharpton Bradley told them a cop had been one of her attackers Sharpton named that officer is Harry Chris Junior a police officer from a nearby town on who committed suicide shortly after Bali was found Sharpton also named a local prosecutor Stephen Pagonis as one of the attackers offering no proof no none Brawley and her at her advisers refuse to cooperate in any way with the prosecution and it's team sharpen says that was the decision of the warriors when asked why Bradley's team would not meet with New York State Attorney General Robert Abrams Sharpton said it would be like asking someone who watched someone killed in the gas chamber to sit down with Mr Hitler Sharpton later accused Ryan. Who's the veteran prosecutor Jack Brian of kicking a blind man in a scuffle with demonstrators Ryan was nowhere near the scene? After a six month investigation a grand jury found the entire episode of been a hoax Bradley had defaced herself itself to avoid the wrath of her stepfather after staying out late to visit a boyfriend sharpton was found guilty of defamation in a lawsuit brought by prosecutor Stephen Pagonis Kate. Hey let me let me give you a clip of just to Al Sharpton was at the time this is from Morton Downey junior show and this is Morton Downey junior on Morton downey junior show. This is Al Sharpton screaming at a member of the audience that that person is a punk effort and the F. Word is a is a slur for gay people. It is in closer again. Get One thousand nine hundred seventy two two so I mean that was Al Sharpton and not much has changed about Al Sharpton except that he's gotten a little bit more subtle. He said of Assistant District Attorney Pagodas what we stated openly even pagodas did it if we're lying to us so we can go into court with you improve you did sue Sousse right now and and then Pagonis soon new lost it was just the beginning I'll sharpton also had an active role in the crown heights riots of nine hundred ninety one on August one thousand nine hundred ninety one at tragic accident left seven-year-old Gavin Cato dead this according to truth revolt searching for an Alad many in the community blazed the place the blame for the death of Young African American Child on the Jewish driver of the car and the Jewish emergency responders who failed to revive the child some discontented members of the neighborhood proceeded to exploit the situation bank urging violence culminating in deadly riots leads the death of Jewish community member Yankel Rosenbaum who's repeatedly stabbed in the back and beaten by a group of young black men shouting kill the Jew before as the riots continued Sharpton yelled quote if the Jews want to get it on tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come on over to my house a few days after the death of Rosenbaum at a eulogy of K. at Kato's funeral these rights continued for the rolling riots he said quote all we want is to say what Jesus said. If you offend one of these little ones you gotta pay for it. No compromise no meetings no coffee klatch no skin and Ingram one banner at the Rally Red Quote Hitler did not do the job this is. This is who Al Sharpton is this is who Al Sharpton was and didn't stop there Al Sharpton at Freddie's Fashion Mart railed against quote unquote white interlopers what happened there there. There was a a chain a little strip mall that was owned by a black church. The Black Church rented it out to a Jewish guy. The Jewish guy sublet it to a to a store and then raise the rent after the church raise the rents on him Al Sharpton descended on this on this store Freddie Fashion Mart and and he declared that white interlopers were trying to take over the property even though the property was actually owned by a black church and all of that ended with a crazy person trying to burn down the place in killing several people bowl he that he's just he's garbage okay. He's been garbage his entire his entire career his not once actually made America a better place not once that's who Al Sharpton is that while Sharpton was and what's amazing is how Sharpton was brought back back into the fold so for long time. Al Sharpton was out of the public eye. This is why I say when people say the president trump has racially polarized the country president trump has not calmed racial tensions in the country that is for sure his commentary is not helpful but if you WANNA talk about rising racial polarization in America Barack Obama was responsible for a lot of it he absolutely Louis was Barack Obama came into office on a wave of enthusiasm for the idea that he and his very personage was going to help bridge gaps between black and white that he was going to help he was going to help conciliate the conflict over race that his rift our country for hundreds of years. I mean that was his promise right. We're not black white. Were the United States we're not red states blue states that was his routine and then he came into office and one of the first things that he did presumably in order to buy a certain level of legitimacy with certain activists is brought into the fold people like Al Sharpton. This is from the Wall Street Journal Circa Two thousand ten quote Obama's new partner Al Sharpton Peter Walston writing with his wavy font and medallion necklaces the Reverend Al Sharpton Famously Confronted government officials on behalf of black Americans now he has found a new rule telling black leaders was to quiet their criticisms and give the government a chance President Barack Obama has turned to sharpton recent weeks to answer increasingly public criticism in the black community over his economic policy. Some black leaders are charging that the nation's first African American President has failed to help black communities hit hard by the downturn leaving party strategists worried that Black Democrats will become dispirited and and skip November's congressional elections Sharpton has emerged as an important part of the White House response on his national radio program his directly rebutting the president's critics arguing. Mr Obama is right to craft policies aimed at lifting all Americans rather than specifically targeting blacks when recent on air fight with cavs Smiley a prominent talk show host and Obama critic who so heated did it is created a small sensation among black leaders Sharpton told Smiley quote the president is not need to get out there and do a we should be doing. He argued that expecting Obama to become quote a black exponent of black views. I was just stupid because it would create fodder for conservatives looking to defeat legislation that could ultimately help blacks Sharpton said it was a double standard for Tavist Miley and other critics next to expect more from a black president than they would demand of a democratic white president. The Wall Street Journal reported at the time twenty Her given his racially polarizing history and efforts by Mr Obama's two thousand eight campaign team to steer clear of the civil rights leader but Sharpton could help ensure the blacks remain energized energized for November's election an important task in a year that finds the democratic base to be less enthusiastic about voting than are Republicans Sharpton had been to the White House five times since since Obama took office sharpens radio program has become a friendly place for administration officials to address black leaders Obama wooed sharpton he made Sharpton prominence again and then Sharpton Upton was given a show on M._S._N._B._C. and that was Obama picking out racially polarizing not just racially polarizing a race baiting garbage human someone like Al Sharpton and revitalizing his career and making him an important person again a person that Buddha judge has to visit in order to get the blessing of the woke pope over here right he has to he has to go get the blessing of guy who does not represent the black community Al Sharpton Does Not Represent The black community Jesse Jackson does not represent the black community in fact. I think it's fair to say no one represents the black community because when it comes to the black community everyone there's an individual just like nobody represents the quote unquote white community or the Hispanic community when people say that Al Sharpton Sharpton is a black leader. All I can say is show me the size of his his support base. I I'm not seeing it it but it was Obama who decided to bring bring Sharpton back into the fold and make him a thing again. Randall Kennedy Professor at Harvard. Law School was black. I know Professor Kennedy. I took one of his classes. When I was at Harvard Law School Oh and he and I disagree about nearly everything but he's a reasonable human being he wrote a piece in September? Two Thousand Eleven for the New Republic called the Sharpton Renaissance how the Reverend's reputation got refurbished rubbished quote. There's a time not long ago. When the dominant arbiters of public opinion relegated Al Sharpton the outskirts of serious respectable discussion sure he was a fixture on the Ebony magazine list of the top one hundred black Americans sure journalists called him when they need a provocative quip sure Democratic Party politicians courted him but the rebels unmistakably relegated to the Black Ghetto of celebrity journal celebrity activism? No one thought to ask his opinion regarding issues other than those perceived as directly pertinent to aggrieved blacks the difference accorded by establishment bigwigs stem spend more from fear of his ability to cause them trouble than respect for his skill and envisioning positive initiatives among wait opinion leaders who was widely seen as the very embodiment of a race hustler a living version of Reverend in Bacon. The demagogue that Tom Wolfe concocted and his novel bonfire of the vanities there was alas a basis for this negative impression but now says Randall Kennedy Sharpton has risen above the confines of a strictly racial niche and emerged as a person of far-flung and real influence his prominence in the American mainstream from his appearances on the Sunday morning news network programs to a favourable profile on sixty minutes a laudatory coverage in Newsweek and now zone Primetime Sean M._S._N._B._C. is partly by did ambition persistence skill and an appearance immunity to embarrassment but it is also due in no small parts to sponsorship of President Obama and this is what happened here. Obama was alienating Jesse Jackson and he needed Al Sharpton Sharpton to close that gap. That's one of the things that happened in two thousand eight Jackson didn't like Obama Obama went to sharpen since Obama's victory says Randall Kennedy Two thousand eleven sharpton has not only been an unequivocal cheerleader. He's been a vocal critic of blacks on the left who complain about Obama's priorities appointments and methods Sharpton his acidly and repeatedly rebuked example cornel west one of the president's most esteemed African American detractors in that way Sharpton performs the valuable service to Obama validating his ratio Bona Fides when West Smiley maxine waters among others draw into question Obama's commitment to black folk sharpton is on hand to refute them. The president has rewarded Sharpton handsomely for his services when seeking to display attentiveness to black concerns he includes Sharpton among the leaders he purportedly consults his invited Sharpton to the White House for numerous events including putting his birthday bash. The president's Patriots has has played a key role in the renaissance of sharpens public image so as we say when it comes to racial polarization nation in the United States the media didn't take any notice of this Randall Kennedy did the Wall Street Journal did at the time but it was Obama who restored one of the great race baiting Griffin's in American history to to a point of central contention and now apparently it is a point of hot controversy to criticize Al Sharpton and point out exactly what Al Sharpton is if Democrats want this. This is what Democrats bought you WANNA know why racial polarization has been growing in this country it didn't start with trump and and ain't gonNA end with trump so long as the media continue to rehabilitate pieces of crap like Al Sharpton Get. We'll get to more of this in just one second Democrats defending anything trump opposes first. Let's talk about how you can actually get food more easily so right now. 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Her job apparently involves helping sponsor resolutions in favor of boycotting the state of Israel that resolution by the way if it were carried into effect it has no legal effect if it were carried into effect would actually be illegal under federal law because federal contractors are not allowed to discriminate E._d._S. is discrimination therefore if she were to legalize discrimination it would be invalid anyway. She has a piece in the Washington Post today. Talking about what a victim she is because trump has attacked her. It's so terrible but she she is standing up for the Truth and Democrats of course are rallying around the squad. They're rallying around anything that president trump opposes president trump could come out against cancer. They would rally allie around it. He could come out against diabetes and there'd be like you know what what's abolish insulin. It's time in diabetes has to have its day according to Rashid it to leave. He said the values I hold. You're not in line with those of my home state of Michigan. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are grounded in the values of equity justice respect for each other. I was elected to represent the city city of Detroit and Wayne County. It's remarkable time in our country's history when the president is hindering our desire for universal healthcare lower prescription drug prices equity in education and stopping the for a profit schemes that her children and communities such as mine with every hate fuel tweet he gets us off track as we try to hold him and his reckless administration accountable Yada Yada Yada Yada and of course I the Democrats continue to rally around now Sharpton and retreated to leave and I guess the greatness of how Baltimore has been run. That's been pretty fantastic so instead of actually instead of actually tackling what trump is saying about Baltimore for example or explaining the president trump doesn't have any solutions for Baltimore. He's just now the off which is actually what happened there or that. The squad are too radical which Nancy Pelosi is trying to say two weeks ago instead the media have decided to rally around the trump is a racist narrative because they're they're really familiar with. It is like an old standby and there's certain quarterbacks you know they're going to call a run on a particular play 'cause they're uncomfortable with the thro well that is the Democrats at this point and that is the media media. They're uncomfortable with throwing the ball down the field risking it all on policy or on a rational conversation instead they're just GonNa go with the run which made him a couple of yards and a pile of dust and the run is racism so C._N._N.'s Don Lemon. Yesterday he talked to a black pastor who met with president trump so trump met with a bunch of pastors from the Inner City City and Don Lemon says this black pastor is godly. How trump attacks people of color? I'm I definitely recall Don Lemon asking Barack Obama whether it was godly for the Reverend Al Sharpton to be visiting the White House after you know inciting a couple of riots allegedly here is here is Don Lemon though doing this routine you know I know it's hard for you. You think it's hard to believe that trump is racist but he's repeatedly used racially charged language. He consistently attacks black and Brown elected leaders does not just attack black people he attack anybody and you know it as a man of faith as a Christian. You're saying he attacks anyone. It sounds like you're condoning attacks. Is that or godly. I'm just stayed in a statement of fact. I'm not condoning anything I'm stating a statement of fact president in trump does not pick the people attacked because of color. He attacked anybody. He feels needed one hundred percent true but I love Don Lemon now doing this religious routine. Well you know you know. Is it godly when he had tax bill was godly when Barack Obama decided that he was going to slander the officers of Cambridge Massachusetts was a godly when he welcomed Al Sharpton Upton back into the good graces of American society after Al Sharpton had helped set set off racial conflict conflagrations on repeated occasions. Don't worry guys. The media is biased. You WanNA medium BICYC- is C._N._N.. Had A panel yesterday talking about Baltimore and someone pointed out he didn't Bernie like Rip Baltimore in Two Thousand Fifteen and talked about how third world country and everyone agrees totally different 'cause that was Bernie man and burnished a good guy but trump's a bad guys when trump rips Baltimore totally different senator <hes>. I'm I'm sorry John Let me let me show you this tweet from president trump. He says Crazy Bernie Sanders recently equated the city of Baltimore to a Third World country based on that statement. I assume that Bernie must now be labeled. A racist just as is a Republican would determine standard there is a difference of course and look. I think everybody should be focused on helping people in the inner city of Baltimore. Get the help they need people would like more jobs. They'd like healthcare. They'd like all sorts of benefits that the government could certainly support but there is a commonality in a pattern with president trump here and I think that's important context. Oh there's a difference. No we're not going to explain the difference. We're just going to say that there is a difference and then everybody sort of just accepted as road that there's a difference that when trump says that Baltimore's Moore's bad place and when Bernie Sanders that says the Baltimore is a bad place totally totally different they mean two totally different things and this is all of course pushing a particular narrative Trevor Noah who who again is in this running gun battle for unfunny EST person in America occasionally. He's funny so he is still running. Well behind Samantha B who I think has his runaway. I mean she's like the secretary of on funniness on late night T._v.. But the Trevor Noah says you don't have to be a genius to know what trump means when he talks about Baltimore really spell it out for me trevor. This language is part of patent right president trump always uses the word infestation when talking about people of color almost always use it. He said illegal immigrants are infesting in America said Congressman John Lewis's Atlanta district as crime infested and that the squad must go back to their crime infested countries like you don't need to be a genius to see what trump <unk> is implying because he's not subtle person okay so here's the thing as I said yesterday he called New Hampshire. Drug infested New Hampshire is whiter than any blank piece of the paper you can find it. Is there one point one percent of the population of Hampshire's black so when he said it was drug infested with you talking about black people at what what did that mean all of this has meant to drive the narrative and the narrative is the black people are under threat Democrats want to portray that narrative despite the fact that we have record black unemployment despite the fact that blacks in the last several election cycles have outpaced the percentage of the population in terms of of the voting population what they want is for black people to feel under threats that black people turn out and vote against President Trump duplicating the Obama twenty twelve coalition rather than their turnout in They should because you know if if America is in danger like who you think is going to be impacted the most by whatever racist policies you know whatever policies that at a press whatever policy that marginalized like who's next to be in concentration camps in America. It's not going to be white people. I don't think so if we if we if we know what's good for us we will definitely go <unk> out there and vote but I don't think anything wrong with making sure that the Democrats have a black agenda Charlemagne the God says this is the narrative that folks are seeking to push and why don't people trust the media because this is not true. Okay this narrative that president trump is attacking Scharping sharpens black or attacking Baltimore because Baltimore's largely black city is not true trump attacks anybody nobody who annoys him. He does it all the time. I also don't believe the media because the media are basically willing to say anything about anybody so for example the media have been pushing for now about a week this idea that that Mitch McConnell Cocaine Mitch's actually Moscow Mitch these actually working for the Russians why well after the Muller hearings which were giant Dud Dud for the Democrats. I mean a giant for the Democrats. They immediately pretended that they were shocked to find that the Russians had been hacking the election had been involved in hacking during the election and they were involved in trying to manipulate people during the election and so then they took a bill the past the past only one Republican vote in the house when they tried to have it declared into law in the Senate by unanimous consent and Republicans had no Mitch McConnell said no sorry this was a controversial bill. It was a controversial controversial bill because usually voting provision in the United States are left to the states. We've already spent something like three hundred forty billion dollars on election security going into upcoming elections that was passed by Republican Senate. Hey and Mitch McConnell connel for holding up a bill that has a lot of specifics that are controversial including the use of paper mandated paper ballots as backups for example. There's also mandated particular particular uses of Federal Authority over state elections. Republicans generally have opposed this because how state elections are run is generally up to states not up to the federal government in any case Mitch McConnell was it's called Moscow Mitch by Joe Scarborough and this became a thing that he's actually attempting to shield. He's actually attempting to shield the Russians that the Russians can continue interfering in our elections nations right now. Trending on twitter is Moscow Mitch MIC treason. It's just ridiculous. I'm sorry it's ridiculous. Everybody knows this is ridiculous. Who has half a brain? Here's McConnell McConnell defending himself regardless of WHO's in the White House regardless of which way the political winds are blowing. I have consistently treated Russia like a threat not even under a Republican Administration I spoke out when I was afraid. The U._S. wasn't doing not to stop the erosion of democracy and rule of law in Russia so much fun. I don't WanNa take the time to respond to critics in the media when they have no clue what they're talking about this modern day McCarthyism is talking and damaging because of the way it warps our entire public underscores okay and that of course is exactly right. It is ridiculous. Do you really think that Mitch McConnell is a Russian tool or the Mitch. McConnell is ignoring election security because it some fealty the trump. It's ridiculous again. This bill only passed the house with one Republican vote. It was not really noticed because Democrats passed it and nobody assumed it was going anywhere. Democrats oh crafts then presented it as though it was some sort of bipartisan achievement and then look at Mitch McConnell standing in the way standing in the way of election progress running state elections is the responsibility of states and localities this is true under the constitution and this has always been McConnell's position which is why I can't I can't find her. I've asked Melt Melt Multiple Republican senators about this not one Republican senator opposes McConnell on this not one sorry McConnell support who is three hundred eighty million not billion in aid to election security funding that passed passed Congress just a few months ago he supported bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee investigation into election interference that produced an alarming public report last week. This is exactly like when Democrats claim there's a crisis and then they pass and then they propose a trillion dollar bill that doesn't solve the crisis Republicans oppose it and then Democrats say the Republicans refuse acknowledge the crisis. It's exactly the sort of the same sort of idiotic virtue signalling you see what the green new deal climate change. We're all GONNA die in ten years and if you don't pass this meaningless meaningless bill and vote for it you're a bad person it comes up for a vote not a single Democrat votes for it but the media been touting this the media been touting this Moscow Mitch nonsense pretending that it's real it is not real it never was real and yet they suggest that we are supposed to apparently respect their take on it. Somehow I have my doubts and meanwhile going into the debates tonight I first round of the second debates hard to figure out the term these things because now they're eighty three different rounds of debates but it's the first round of the second debate tonight and Features Elizabeth Warren and Baidu and Bernie Sanders and be in bad. Oh who else Buddha judge adjudged to okay so it's the all white people ate the only question about the debate. Tonight is whether Bernie Sanders is able to defend himself against Elizabeth Warren worn has been making slow but steady gains means the only way that one of them becomes challenger to Biden is if one of them loses. This is highlander. Now only one can only one can rain so we'll see if there's any sort of conflict because here's the fact according to new polls Joe Biden has restored his lead so it seemed after the last debates that he was starting to sing and then Joe Biden went back to his original strategy which was disappear and let what the other Democrats Act like idiots and he started to gain in the polls again according to Emerson poll. He's back on top at thirty three percents thirteen points ahead of Bernie Sanders. WHO's at Twenty Eighty Percent Warren at fourteen percent sanders has gained five points since Emerson's last survey? Kamala Harris has fallen four points which there was a reversion into the mean for Kamala Harris she had a big bump and then she started to drop again. She was not able to build on that momentum because she is mechanical nate silver. Yesterday the pollster compared to Mitt Romney and that I think is kind of fair that she sort of checks a lot of boxes for Democrats but she doesn't enthuse anyone the only other candidates about three percent were mayor Buddha Buddha judge at six percent and Beta at four again. I am astonished by the amount of media attention Buddha judge has gotten to receive six percent these polls Buddha judge does not have apparently the any breakaway quality that has allowed him to climb he sort of reached his high point a couple months ago and it's been again reversion to the mean ever since morning. Concerts also has a survey survey today that shows Biden at the top with thirty three percents sanders is again second in this survey so that's been consistent with eighteen percents and worn at thirteen and Harris twelve so sanders is is showing a little bit more durability than I thought he would at this point. I thought WHO's GonNa slide into oblivion. We'll see tonight if Elizabeth Warren is able to put the hit on him and knock him down a couple of bags. That's what she needs did you because both Warren and sanders are not going to survive to final round. It will be one or the other okay time for some things I like and then a quick thing that I hate things that I like so you're talking about. Climate change is talking about climate change so a lot of folks on the left are very focused in on climate change as a key and important issue. I'm not averse to discussing climate changes to key and important issue if we do so in a rational no way what I'm not going to do is humor the idea that the world will be on fire by twenty one hundred that all of the coast will be under water that we are all going to die by twenty one hundred if we don't do anything to stop climate change in the next twelve years I do not buy it. I think that there are mitigation efforts that can be made things like Geo engineering that can be done. I think that there has been talk. There should be more talk of deregulation of the nuclear power industry which is one of the easiest ways of producing energy at cost effective method without increasing carbon emissions but in order suggest the actual damage. You have to go about it in a rational way so there's a great book out by William Nordhausen from two thousand thirteen. It's called the climate casino talking about the risks of climate change and trying to assess what those risks czar because very often what you hear from the left is this definitive. Here is exactly what's going to happen and the answer is you don't know now it is quite possible that something bad is going to happen. In the future. There are tipping points in the Environment as William Nord House Nobel Prize winner in economics last year talks about their tipping points and we're not sure whether tipping points are where for example the ice caps start to melt a lot faster than they were. If you reach a certain level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere there's talk about a certain level of ocean acidification that is I unable to be recovered from or sea level rises over the course of the next five hundred years. You have to sort of number ones determined timeframe number two you have to determine what exactly the modeling shows about at the time frame so they're models that show the twenty one hundred there'll be warming about two degrees Celsius which is about six degrees Fahrenheit. Let's see yeah about four degrees Fahrenheit rather or it could be all the way up to six degrees Celsius. Sorry it could yes it could be up to six degrees Celsius which of course would be the upper end modeling. It's pretty unlikely that happens but it is possible the best kind of average scenarios three degrees Celsius by the end of the century which means six degrees Fahrenheit which would be a problem but it would not mean that ocean levels rise by thirty or forty feet as people keep saying right. This book does a good job of breaking down. What exactly are the rewards and the risks over time time he suggests a carbon tax as a possibility? I think it's going to be very difficult to implement a carbon tax on a global scale which is what you would need in order to actually affect climate change agent any real way otherwise what you get serious free rider problem where the United States imposes a carbon tax like Europe has and then starts importing oil from other places and also China China and India just keep producing carbon emissions to an extraordinary extent the fact is that as North House points out also whatever future problems we're going to deal with Ross are going to be dealing with an economy economy that is completely different by twenty one hundred the centers of power going to shift in the world economy back in to back in nineteen hundred. Would what anyone who predicted that China was going to be a world economic power or that Russia was going to faded into oblivion oblivion. You can't predict what's going to happen in the economy this book Luke does a good job of trying to reasonably lay out the case for what exactly is happening with climate change what the economic costs are going to be of climate change how we assess those what we should do about it. What what we can do about it as I said I think there needs to be talk about Geo Engineering I think there needs to be talking about building seawalls mitigation? I think that there should be talk about international national agreements but those international agreements have teeth and if those international agreements are not reachable than destroying the United States economy so that China and India can catch up with us and free we ride off of our own willingness to cripple our economy seems like a very very bad idea is when people say they're easy solutions to climate change. The answer is yes if you could wave a magic wand I'm for their would-be but in a world populated by real governments in real people not so much the Paris climate accords were complete waste of time mainly because nobody was abiding biding by the Paris climate accord's the number one reduction in carbon emissions by country has happened in the United States since the Paris climate accord and since the pull out from the Paris climate accord by President trump so that international agreement didn't mean anything China signed it and then kept emitting like nobody's business so again I think the book is well worth reading the climate casino risk uncertainty in economics for warming world by William Nordhausen actual reasonable take on the issue as opposed to the climate catastrophe catastrophic thinking you see so often okay time for a quick thing that I hate aid okay so ted. Cruz was at L._A._X.. And there's this new thing on the left where if you are if you see a Republican public supposed to be right this Republican in public this gives you some sort of virtuous signaling points. It is stupid and irritating. It makes the country a worse place. If you want to his office in protest do it. If you want to sponsor some sort of rally outside the Capitol building do it if you want to harass public officials in a public place simply because because they happen to be standing around an airport this makes you jackass. I wouldn't do the Standing Democrat. I don't think many Republicans would frankly and if they did. I think it'd be a nasty thing if you're not asking him a legitimate quick question if you're not a journalist WHO's trying to get an answer for example if you're just there to bother him and yell at him then this makes you a bad person and it makes the country a worse place because we at least have to you have common spaces that we can share if I have to bring security with me every time I go to the airport because I'm afraid somebody's going to punch me in the face that doesn't make for a better country and if I'm there with my wife and kids in a public place in Europe costing me to scream me. This fairly definition only makes you a bad person. Here's a little bit of the tape awards. The people were standing there shouting at ten Americans silent and there's a bunch of them and it turns as into like quick social media mob everybody bringing their cameras woo. Look at us. Look at our courage Americans no-one silencing. You're standing there screaming in the middle of an airport like jackass now. There's Ted Cruz being very polite because this is what Ted does in public now the fact that none of these people wanted to have a conversation or discussion they just WanNa yell at Ted. Cruz demonstrates zone virtue signaling garbage. I want to make the country worst places a pretty good way doing it already. We'll be back here later today with two additional hours of contents otherwise we'll see here tomorrow to recap those democratic debates. I'm Ben Shapiro. This is the Ben Intramuros show the Ben Shapiro show is produced by Robert Stirling directed by Mike joyner executive producer Sir Jeremy Boring senior producer Jonathan. Hey our supervising producer is mathis glover and our technical producer is Austin Stevens edited by Adam Sigh of its audio is mixed by Mike Coral. 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We're talking about the Up here we're talking about the Joe Scarborough story now what's happening with that is I didn't know this and of course they don't want you to know nobody's GonNa say and kind until it comes out and Joe Scarborough as a congressman Republican in Early two thousands two thousand one whatever. He had a a big aid winds up dead behind his desk in his office. And I'm going that very much seems curious but it could be set up and you're GonNa and if kind and you're going to be in your European now aren't you. Yes and boss I am you know. So what winds up happening? He goes liberal. He joins MSNBC and he's up. There is Republican congressman. And you know morning coffee with Joe of whatever and his Co host is Mika Brzezinski which is debris new Brzezinski Mr Super duper globalist of whatever him Henry Kissinger and rockefellers. Nee them those Trilateral Commission was all part of presents. Keys thing with his book that he wrote in seventy or so that between two ages. America'S ROLE NEW TECHTRONIC. Errol this technocracy everything. His daughter Mika is his co host and now his wife and the find out that this this shift has changed. You know scarborough all of a sudden. He's on with the program after this. It makes you go I'm going to all moment exactly. I mean you've got a guy who's a Republican for six years who all been. There's the scandal and he decides right before he's resigned. Spend time with his family and then the death and the death all gets covered up and he goes but it seems like you ought to making deal with the devil that all this will go but in return you will have to join and yet be protected by the group which is what. What is the name of that movie again? That really ticked me off. You made me watch it. I keep forgetting the name. But I've blocked it out of my God one the one that the one with the satanic cult of like you know we're just showing the whole the the lead up the Jeffrey Epstein in the rest About shadow. Something of Jeff. Yeah it's a great. I highly recommend it. Just watch your blood pressure. I think you plan Democ the movie Dot Com. It's it's going thing starring Mike very well how you descend at all your friends man on the mail it's sort of like bad baxter's fantastic so anyway but this but this is it's just stay with the concept and I know it's like why are we talking about from MSNBC host. I because the president just tweets storm yesterday about it which the larger issue which we'll get to but I just wanted to point out to think about it. You've got a guy that that's accused of this and the whole thing gets shut down and the whole story gets swept away and anyone that brings it up. It's conspiracy theory and people are shut down and anyone that brings it up his fired and that's a whole nother story. I won't go into all the different people who have even Democrats who may be. There was one guy who was a famous Democrat Blogger. He was on. Msnbc was actually a regular guest and when one of the Republicans was was accused of something or maybe apparently may have been a democrat. It was like some regular story of two thousand ten and this blogger. That's the ports. Msnbc just happen to brought up in a kind of an like the twitter discussion online just happened. Bring up how Joe's case you know was brought up and he just brought up. As an example of how Democrats and Republicans supposedly treated differently now. He was coming at the point of view that Republicans are Hypocrites and Democrats are all the all the the the are always. There are always innocent. So that was the point you brought up. He was trying to defend Democrats and he brought up. Job was unfortunately handled microorganism just by mentioning that just mentioning it. He was banned for life from as from. Msnbc just bringing it up in its offense of Democrats by bringing up. Joe's case one Klein who who is this he was a south send. You the link was. He forgot his name here. Who was who was a well known he still is well known blogger for Democrats and was he was a constant guests on. Msnbc deep you mentioned jost one time even when Don Don brought it back out and we WANNA make sure everybody knows. You don't do that exactly. So that is the level of what these people are and it seems like that once you get caught. And that's that's the bottom line. These people want you to have dirt once they get dirt on you or they make you get on you or you admit to dirt on you. Then you're part of the club. Because now they have something over you and for those of you that slew can't figure out why Donald Trump is such a threat is that they have no dirt on him. Whatever dirty had talked about on the Damn House burned show thirty years ago? They have nothing on him. And so this is why. It's so powerful. What he is all these other for these groups in a matter. How crazy that. You WanNa get into conspiracies with it. But I'm telling you it's always about how much leverage they have on your regardless of Party so anyway I wanna move ahead so what happened was Donald Trump last night decides to bring the up and he of course he calls Joe Psycho. Joe Joe Joe Scarborough. Is this PAG line. And this is what he tweeted out of the blue he says comcast should open up a long overdue. Cold case against Fico Joe Scarborough. I know him and crazy. Mika well use them beautifully in the last election result them nicely. And we'll stay on the record that he is quote nuts now who says this this? Donald TRUMP. He just tweeted this yet last night. He's bringing the whole thing back up. That's why I'm bringing up today. So he has made this front and center this entire case that no one's allowed even talk about otherwise they get shut down and now trump is worse this old thing out but we have to get to the punch line here so again. He's talking about crazy Joe I dumped them nicely for the ratings. I'm sorry and says I will never going to minute. Man The segment. I'm going to stay on the record. That he has quote nuts. So of course. I'm sure next press conference will bring it up. But his last tagline of his tweet is the best he says besides bad ratings talk forget the fact that he murdered people and everything else on top of that. He's got batteries fan ratings radio anyway. There's a lot behind recoverable bad ratings. Yeah exactly so. There's there's he's definitely obviously. He's moving this at the spotlight. The question is why is it? The fact that he's trying to get maybe continue the food fight wild while the country's fighting over food shortages whereabouts. About what about the governor's on whether to open up or not is a thing that distraction from krona virus on purpose or in this salvo of really the fight of q? And many other emails than tweet I sent you. Ernie of Donald Trump has been hinting the last week or so that things are about to change and basically it's like the revelation is about to come. Is it just as a? I mean it's just trying to throw red meat to his Beza gray awakening talk awakening. It's building up. I mean it's getting to where it might be time. You know that this is what they needed. They needed to understand. What was their plan? You know because that was kind of thing that You know one of my sons and he goes dad. You have to be aware yet to be paying attention up to seed one now. One you put up on the podium trouble famous like choir I it hold my cell four one one is a free APP for Android and replaces government control nine one one cell phone one allows you to preset a group of friends or private organizations to show up at any emergency sell for one. One is a nightmare for the state because it proves their so called services are needed. 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We have to talk about the Biden deal and the Democrats throwing him under the bus. That's going to be about is trump. I Biden. Thing is that was I. Did you watch it the not no I? What a what a joke. This thing has been from the beginning. It's all about Hillary. I don't know what everybody's smoking you know. Now there you're going to have a it's just gonNA be a male in electric APPs of Hillary's selected. I mean you know I I while while. Wow you know the thing is this same is almost like an echo of what I said about about Bernie Sanders. Want him getting in. Because we're a after after Bernie's heart attack and the same thing with with Biden. The race is not about fighting. It's the race is going to be who he picks his VP. That's GONNA be the puppet master that will be supposed the president or at least the personal it's going to be his Dick Behold into DMZ to to the DNC. I still think a perfect person is Kamala Harris for them. She is dial hold. Donna Headline Breaking News Breaking News Trump in Phoenix today. Oh I heard that might actually honeywell where my kids work. They're gonNA I bet he talks to them. They give a little. You know little meeting. Confab wonder if fee-based GonNa wear a mask you know they they they're gonNA go. Yup Yup Yup my daughters and daughter-in-law sons and their baby Gilder Honeywell Aerospace they. They're essential so they they're getting already. My this year has been telling me about. You know the prep for last couple of weeks or something. They've known that comes. Trump GONNA go there and thanks for making masters I I'm actually waiting for him to sell Red Maga- masks online. I know they'll do away with this mass thing pretty fast. After that. I guarantee that they go. I think he's winning again. I mean there's nothing else. He's he's showing the policy in the confusion of the left. If you think about it regarding the states when when it came down to should he shut the states down? What did he do? Granted kind of confused them with the laser with the cat. But he ultimately said it's the tenth amendment now he doesn't take amendment but basically stay twice. He Senate to the governor's up the governor's the of shutdown what the left say the left said. Oh my God how come. He doesn't act on his dictator impulse and force all the state's shut down if he really cares about what did you is. He declared a national emergency and that is a trigger that in legislation on the states here in Arizona. At least is what triggers a whole bunch of easy. We get to do emergency. Kind of whatever governor thing. And that's why they're on his ass if you're not going to do a shutdown or mandate whatever's if even had that power that's another thing but exactly exactly exactly but but the thing is when we came down to shut the state's down he ultimately you act notably left. It's at the state owned immediately declared a national emergency data. What gave set this all up all this FEMA CRAP? Gay Power to FEMA agape power to the state because a lot of when they had h one n one ten years ago is exactly the same thing they needed to have a declaration of a pandemic h one m one obama whatever that triggered all kinds of powers of the governor. They didn't get it unless he did it. Somehow you know that declaration of emergency is really what they needed from trump and he did it all right polling taken. We'll we'll poke point with that but what I'm trying to point out on. The other side is that at the end of the day. He I mean he to you. The end of the day is triggered. Fema and I'm not downplay that but he wound up leaving it to the governor's to ultimately decide up to shut down the economy's where's the? Where's the liberal media was saying? Why aren't you wire to forcing them to do it? The irony is they. Were trying to force them into the trap that that that this guy's a fascist dictator and of course if he did do what they claimed that he should do then they would of course turnaround call him the fascist dictator. But he didn't know compromiser. What he did is he. Got The deck. Let me finish. He did the declaration. The thing was is that I am of the opinion that the Mo of trump for the past. Oh my God. I can't believe no one else would have survived. This crap for the past four years is that he he to go along he seems to be influenced by Vanity and EGO. He seems to be playing along while the whole time. He's trying to give them just enough rope from the HANG HIMSELF. He put them up on the podium. He allows them to do their stuff. He surveilled your bail out here. You Go. We're going to track all this money. We're going to see where it goes. We're going to see you all and it went to the Kennedy Center and you fired all the musicians and it went to the DNC. I mean you know all this stuff I go. Why would he do this well so he could track it? He could trace it Dude Bill Gates and Fau. You're going to do whatever boom it's going to be front page news so I'm seeing the benefit of the way that he's doing this but they keep thinking they got him or do they have them. I don't know what mean is finished. My point I I I respect what you're say I get it. I'm talking more of how the media's bring portrayed and how the average American seeing this and the fight between Democrats and the Republicans in the governor's all of us trying to talk from trying to starting doing superficial perspective. We'll just leave it that way. I don't argue this point right now. Just want to get the point out of how the media's a is the consistency that trump looks like so when when it came to shut the states down he left it to the governor's okay. Let's forget the FEMA thing from it. He left it to. The governor's puts a figure it out with the media. Said how come you're not forcing them to do it. Well he didn't want to go down that path. As as as as the president that precedent no pun intended. Now when it came to opening the state's aim everything was it was backwards. The president again was consistent and said well. I didn't force the governor's to shut down. I'm not going to force the governor's to open up for back to the states and th- amendment and yet the media turned around and said how dare you try to force all the states to be open. Who Do you think you are a dictator? You know it should be for the individual governors and then of course he hadn't that press conference which was brilliant new said fine good. That was my plan all along. I just told you people with the cat laser. Of course the states can all each each side and then the Democrats went went bonkers and said. Oh my God. He's playing politics. He's putting all the blame on on Democrat states sunny. I'm just showing that from the average Democrat watching this. They have to start getting confused of what the actual principle is. You know as if they even have. I've libertarian confused. You know exactly you know. Of course. They're confused. They don't know what the hell to do. I've been talking to you know. I talked to people in the liberty community. That's influenced by social media there. Yeah but yeah but my friends all say and kind of official the crust and science kind of crap. And I'm going. Wow Wow I've seen the same thing you know. The same thing happened with you know Waco Oklahoma City nine eleven. Your last tarp thing. It's it's it's just this this mind screw and before they just had broadcast media then it went into You know they still had Kennedy infiltrators they go to the different group. They they got a machine to try and confusion or something. Conspiracy Nut Barney Miller of trilateral commission of you guys are crazy back in eighties. You know what I mean. I mean it's just a US media while now social media man they got inside your head. They know they can tailor the message to mess. What's important to you you know. What is it that triggers? You and I'm going damn but the inoculation against that unless you're inaugurated and your brains you know is the inoculation against that is just critical thinking of kind of finally the cognitive dissidents break away. From what the Hell and when you don't have a job and you're going hungry and you've got your check everybody else did of all of a sudden you're going. I think I'll just open. I think you're not doing it right. I think I don't get the Barbecue. I can't go to the beach. You Know Notre violent light kill viruses. I mean it's just all the simple stop. Then you find out that like Planned plan the Plan De Plan democ movie Dot Com you know. Why is it that you know? We got James Corden all time Richard Grove and and Dr Judy Mike. 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There's a search bar up there. We've been improving our search engine to slot back in stuff going on a lot of people don't know about but you put in Operation Mockingbird and you let it search and it goes through all four hundred whatever thousand headlines that we have on premiums Phoenix. Four hundred thou- going through everything narrow it is now. I can include any words all words. Exact match Israeli Blah Blah Blah Blah. So here we go operation. Macabre is live and well do propaganda bill resurrects as operation mockingbird. I didn't remember this one. The new counterfeiting information no countering counterfeiting whatever forty and countering information warfare act of sixteen s twenty six ninety two now foreign countering. Foreign propaganda differ may disinformation act. See it's always opposite or wherever they call it you know and The CIA operation mockingbird the same kind of thing. It's the new The US Ministry of Truth and what they've done it was illegal for the Pentagon or military or the US government to Propagandize the American people. That will you propagandize Germany Austria? Whatever all you want but it was illegal to do it here but now they're like yeah we need to do it a little bit and counter you know the fake news of France or something. Operation Mockingbird was fully implemented a program to spread this information throughout America Media C. I. A. Director William Colby testified to the Church Committee. That over four hundred. Cia agents active in the US media to control what was reported through American mainstream television. Newspapers and magazines four hundred. Cia agents now. This is his testimony before Congress in the church was filled. It's filled you actually watch it on Youtube. Early documentaries man here. What are we see this little thing here? That means it's up there forever and always click that but you see I'm you know. And now they call it The new one it's a US ministry a truth. The bill is currently being reviewed by Congress. Us government is added again. Same dirty tactics and Nicole. War Irritation from their bag of tricks dusted off repackage and presented to the public as a necessary means for national security. Once again the free press is not only under attack it is being used as a front for propaganda war just like all wolf warfare that people pay the price did this past. Oh care doesn't matter. They're doing it. I mean if they can nate then they are a well so so they are not so one of the reasons are bringing it up. I know long-term listeners to the show obviously know about it. They're like dogs called Tuesday mockingbird but we also will people only China to the trump report and I just kind of kind of you know. Let's speed them up and have them understand with this whole this whole war. That's been going on this information war yet to give out stones on that Didn't start with Donald Trump for as many people out there that were killed only the only in the last five years or so starting to understand how the media cynthia wine and they started asking themselves. We'll did they just suddenly start lying to me since since Donald Trump grant like. Where did this come from? I know it's hard for you. Ernie to touch us that and I'm not trying to be funny but I mean for a lot of people out there. This is new. It's sort of like when they. I realize the reserved the problem and just being deep members. Oh here's his rookie. Going to my point. No let me put this in their operation. Mockingbird WIKIPEDIA STARTS OFF OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD is alleged large scale programme wikipedia cop there. Cia YOU'RE THERE. It's not alleged it's stipulated admit okay. It's practically it's in the records on film so so when I'm young to is there's so many people that are new to this. There's trying to figure out a long. Has This has had the impact I've been up into the system and they don't know and of course may start talking to people it's got PBS. Now trying to kind of Redo history saying well to the Russians. And it's this over here. Cnn or Fox News and it goes round and round. The thing is people have to realize that this modern information war started before many of us. We're we're we're actually born in the nineteen fifties. After with into the beginning of the Cold War. The Cold War really began with new technologies. Not just the bomb but technologies in television. The coming cable all of this sort of thing. They realized that things are getting so big as far as communication streams. So it wasn't just two or three networks on the radio but back then it was starting to larger with actual video with television screens and people sitting in their house and suddenly they had to come up with a much. More a insidious way to control people so the point is mockingbird knocking for those who don't know that is the genesis of all of this. Because obviously you know I mean I mean a propagandist around there for like eons but the modern propaganda war began with mockingbird and all leads what we have today the only differences. It's starting to be exposed now. People are starting to see it for the first time. It's not just cracks like like Ernie and myself and Freedoms Phoenix people who are considered conspiracy theorists all. This time. You Know Jeffrey Epstein didn't tell them stuff by saying that was not going away you know. I'm not even sure. He killed himself Halloween. Oh you were even dead. You Know I. I'm like whatever nothing. It doesn't matter all that stuff there. So always justice there no justice you know there. There's only just us. We need to read take our own minds away from them. Quit having them influence us so much. We just go yeah. He's not even dead now. So say general opinion. Screw you. We don't care. We don't pay attention to the media and pay attention to the government to. That's our win. The governess let better. Let's I want him the room. He better their ruling me wrong. I want new rulers. That's the problem that that that that that that that is the problem. Quit begging for better rule you. There is no better rule you than you guys just so stupid but that realization is coming all of a sudden. Now you have hunters out there going you know what a hunt for Sport. You know that skull. He'll eat the brains man. I mean we we food. We're going to get out there and get some and under all of a sudden we find out this one thing. I love this stat. There are ten times more hunting license possessors in America than there are all the army men in the world ten times and they're all snipers you think you're going to win this by force of arms. Hell no they have to do it with a biological warfare. They have to do it with psychological warfare. You have to do with economic warfare. They're not going to take over the people that is not going to happen and going with your guns to Capitol Hill and give me permission slip to open row. Be Mad screw them. You don't know what the how it's not about asking permission. It's just doing it which we are doing straight up. Wickenburg restaurants just opening route tone. Apo- out there pay pal screw it. They're just opening like screw this man. That's the leadership. That is what you need to do. And then when they come shut you down and kick in this get a try. I want to try. Let's get all this on trial. They're just seeing how much you'll take and then I want to see the judge rules in the government's favour of Yeah we get the order you that you can't do commerce kind of order for a health of you know all the powers of the people go away and goes all the government win. There's a national emergency when there's national security involved with health and welfare and all this other cost to health and welfare with the health and Welfare America used to be freedom and I go. I want that discussed all. I'm afraid they'll say I don't give a crap. What they say doesn't matter what they say. It's what you think you know. All you gotTa do is just have general public opinion. You're my opinion. Is THEY SUCK now? What next now. I am just so sick of this but while earlier starting to see what what you've always talked about which is Be The end of nightmare on ELM street. Where all the sudden the way you stop Freddy Krueger is just stopped worrying. You turn your back on it. And all of a sudden he has no power which is actually how the movie ends and the same thing here. Exactly he's got that far. But if you saw on Fox News they had to give the Guy Credit. He's Barbara's and ex-marine Jones two or three barber shops and he's like you know what I don't care if if I get arrested. I'm opening my barber shops and he went on to CNN. And it was interesting. How the host and him were having two completely different conversations. I mean it's astounding. See how different that that that we are. She could not rapper head around why this guy was saying. I don't care about the fines. I I am knocker. Always GIVE UP. Give up my liberties income and the rest and she couldn't wrap her head around. Yeah hip but put the state is Tony. You can't aren't you afraid you're going to get a fine what happens. Then he's like I don't care I'm an American like it was amazing watching these two butthead. So often with you opened up the pupil airplanes and forty four with the people to famed or glory. That is powerpoint Angora got time to go overboard after whatever you know we're still making progress. Congress kilogram three figure out damage. 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That's according to to Western officials who cited an intelligence assessment that appears to contradict claims by both president trump at secretary of state. Mike Pump Pale quoting Western diplomatic official. We think it's highly unlikely it was an accident. It is highly likely it was naturally occurring and the human infection was from natural human animal interaction. Cnn adds that the countries in the five is intelligence. Sharing Coalition are coalescing around the assessment meantime the US has yet to make a formal assessment public Ainu analysis of the death count from unknown causes indicates cove in nineteen deaths. Numbers may be incomplete which has implications for the process of reopening states like Ohio recent. Cdc Data Indicates Ohio overall death rates are flat not so in New York which is seen them double so far this year policy analysts. Lauren Anthony with the center. For community solutions warrants out assessment may be overly rosy because the Buckeye state is lagging behind on reporting its data. We're likely looking like Ron Trend. Because the data isn't accurate. And so what's going to happen is wants to date a catches up. We're GONNA see these numbers. Change the data show a three fold spike in the number of deaths from unknown cases in Ohio for the past four months at the says it could indicate clinic. Didn't know what hit them at first asked testing ramps up in the coming weeks state will be better able to determine the true cove in nineteen mortality rate of Americans facing a series of barriers to voting in Montana's upcoming primary election. Eric Take it off. Explains due to Kuban. Nineteen all Montana. Counties are providing vote by mail. Option mercy McLean. Head of Western native voice says this presents the first challenge for native Americans on Reservations. The overwhelming majority of whom have their mail delivered to a post office. Box because of the virus. Mclean says there are health risks with giving folks rides to ballot drop-offs post office which can be miles away last leave. The new ballot interference protection will prevent groups such as Western native voice from delivering more than six ballots at a time curtailing common practice of ballot collection in native American Communities About New Appearance Protection Act and cove it and vote by mail. It's a triple whammy on our communities and the right and access to vote McLean says. Her group picked up more than eight hundred ballots. In the two thousand eighteen election balance will be mailed on Friday for the June. Second primary dishes. Pms The LGBTQ community faces special challenges during the covert nineteen crisis. These challenges are the focus of a series of virtual town hall to start tomorrow night. The events will be a forum for the LGBTQ plus people to bring up the issues. They've been facing and brainstorm about solutions. Nicole Crystal President of the group still bisexual is a CO leader of the out for Mental Health Task Force in Los Angeles. She says the state home lockdowns are especially tough on. Lgbtq plus teens you know we have a lot of LGBTQ. Youth are duck every day now at home with families that don't accept their sexuality or that they are closeted to that can create a lot of trauma and a lot of anxiety. I'm Suzanne Potter for Mental Health. Task Force includes multiple groups including health access California Equality California and the California Lgbtq Health and Human Services Network cove nineteenth spreading like wildfire among poultry workers President Donald Trump has issued an executive order giving Agricultural Secretary Sonny Perdue Greater Authority to handle the response to the global pandemic. Arkansas is home to several large chicken suppliers employing thousands of people including Tyson foods senior staff attorney at the Southern Poverty Law Center. Sarah rates says the order does not force plans to stay open nor does it require close plans to reopen. When it does do is it depends a very strong signal that the administration has the back of the companies and we'll support the companies and everything that it can to prioritize the supply chain over the people who actually make the supply chain gun according to the latest data from the CDC nearly five thousand cases of Kobe nineteen had confirmed about workers in one hundred fifteen meat and poultry processing facilities across the country. Finally Mark Richardson tells US Arizona. Consumer groups regulated power companies to use cost savings from lower power demand during the pandemic to provide emergency aid to ratepayers. The coalition is asking the Arizona Corporation Commission to prevent the state's largest private power utilities from using funds already earmarked for future energy efficiency programs to pay for a proposed emergency customer. Relief Package Diane Brown with Arizona. Public Interest Research Group Education Fund. Says that would only provide short-term benefits. They could hurt ratepayers in the future. We hit a hot summer run in a day at home or modified stayed home. Order is in place. It is likely commercial. Electricity demand will drop their zone. A public service in Tucson electric or projected to save millions of dollars in operating costs due to lower demand. Aps said they will discuss a variety of plan options with the commission at Tuesday's meeting mark. Richardson reporting keeping a safe distance. Remains the by word this is Mike Clifford public news service. We are enlist your support and online at new service DOT. Org You guys. It's wreck ten type. 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Eight hundred four to six to three zero one. That's eight hundred four to six twenty three. Oh one leaving sports with Rick Tiddle Rick. Tittle is a genius. The best show ever. He's so wonderful she show ever. He's so wonderful. Awaiting Sports with rick tittle key so handsome genius. Welcome back to the show. Rick Tila with you. Coast to coast around the world on American Forces Radio Network County from a house in the Oakland area. Great to have you with us. It's also great to Welcome Boxer Anthony. Durell a guy who was a two-time. Wbz Super Middleweight champion. had the tidal Last year and previously And Twenty Fourteen and twenty fifteen. But he's here to talk about how he's helping out with his hometown people in Flint Michigan. He's going to be participating on. May ninth in a live. Sports ultimate fighters champions three match on the PS four. They'll be doing that on twitch With some other participants as well Anthony. Welcome to the show and Flint Michigan. We already know very well about the water and it is a national embarrassment. That American citizens have to have water like this. Oh Yeah and then throw in the pandemic which has hit especially hard and I guess that's the genesis behind this project. Right definitely definitely. We're trying to we're trying to still work through to defend I know a lot of people you know. Being laid off and companies are not donating like they could business double and so. We're doing something from home where everybody is safe. And everybody is still in there and and the conference of their home so we can do better by the people around here and and do better about a world man. This is just not here Paying this is a world thing you know because one person do it. Everybody probably jumped online and do the same thing now. How are your video game skills because as we have found out in these pandemics there are a lot of great professional athletes? That are lousy at Video Games. And then a few are really good. What how are you Your skills on the PS four. Doing well I play a different game I haven't played USC that much. I play but I'm a boxer so if I have to stand up in brawl. I'll do that if I don't know any takedown throwing punches. So we'll see we'll see on a ninth and and see how it goes. I know some people like you say I really gamers high game. I play call of duty. Oh me too. Modern warfare you on that right. Yeah I am I am Yup I play that I. I have flown with them. I'm not doing it for living for thing other people but you know I have fun with it and I do play every day with yes. We are birth of a feather. Absolutely Anthony Tell US Keita's tell us a little bit more about flint. Because I remember seeing Roger and me which was a great documentary done by Michael Moore. It was his first big film. And you know. He's from Flint Michigan. Because people have told me that flint gets a bad name. It's it's not as depressed as people. I mean there's a big difference between you know we're Henry Ford lives but just give us a little thumbnail. What Flint Michigan means to you. means a lot like you say it's not a bad bad area like everybody. Everybody thinks Because water it's it's bad everyone is not and that's not the case. It's eighty percent of the water. Pipes is fake. So we're still looking to get the other twenty fifth but we come together as a whole like we've been doing. I think if wanted to succeed you know like the whole city succeeded. And that's that's how plenty isn't always been certified One person you know can't get everybody happy and that's what. I'm trying to bring everybody up with this event. I mean I'm just I'm just happy to be in a position that I am right now. to even do this the weather for you know my boxing or anything like that. I would be able to do this but I'm having to do it like I say Flynn is a it's a great city I was born and raised here. I still live emissions. Still live close to point And I'm still trying to give back you've been through a lot obviously We know about the the cancer that had which was you know obviously about as scary as it gets and then you had a terrible motorcycle accident as well but is that it's sort of like I remember hearing Draymond Green saying if you can survive saginaw you can survive anything that has to do with that Michigan toughness. Is that why? You're so resilient I think so. I think a lot of people come out of Michigan Is Is is you know I think we have to work extra hard To get to where we wanna go to where you know. We'll succeed at in But is Michigan. I think what a Great Lakes I it's something about it. There's a lot of great athletes will come out of Michigan and I'm just proud to be you know phone here. No doubt about a couple more questions. For Boxer Anthony Durell the boys and Girls Club and Flint has had to lay off a lot of its staff and this is not uncommon all around the country during this pandemic. But you think about a place where kids can go to stay out of trouble to stay off the streets and also to get tutoring and so I know they're in desperate need of people and you know not even computers just somebody on the phone who can help these kids in class. And that's another thing the boys and girls clubs GONNA benefit from this right definitely definitely. That's what boys and Girls Girls Club about. No helping a younger fortunate even like like you say somebody to talk to when they're having problems where they need a big brother. Big sister figure you know they can go to the boys and Girls Club or even that off a little steam That's what therefore you know. They're there to help the kids and help people that. Can't you know get the attention like they're supposed to and I like. I said I'm just happy to be partnered with well. I'm always interested in in boxers who come up and I. I'm much more into the sweet science that I am into UFC. Honestly I'm in my fifties so I grew up with boxing. Mma but when when you were coming up and you know you were undefeated for years years and years and then to to finally lose that first match and you're like what eight years into your career does. It is the kind of thing you like. Hey you win some you lose some or was it just devastating moment for you because I just so I just thought I would lose. But you know you take the ones with loss. Voter implies Somebody Great Lost it. It's time to come back after Faucet that defines you and I think I came back great. I wanted to lose it again but I still know where I stand in the division in box. I'm still there. I didn't get another shot at entitled. Doesn't win another title. Just odd depends on opportunity that I get to win that title But like I say you take the ones with the losses and you keep pushing for. That's what you WANNA do. And and that's what I did. I push forward and Gotten Championship last question for you. What was it like and I know you. And you're like me and my little brother only a year apart but Andrea. Your older brother. He goes to Athens. He comes home with an Olympic bronze medal. I mean how how surreal is that for you and your family. But I can't say window because I think you win third place but you get living. Oh it was good. I thought he talks but you know like I say it is. Loss became world champion himself. And things that you know we're okay with one of the good guys want to get back. One of the gap through the community that we live in that we came from do better by this representing flint representing the United States. So well we've been speak with Anthony. Anthony Durell WANNA remind everybody and this is GonNa be on Saturday two PM to six PM eastern go to twitch DOT TV slash flint tonight once again twitch dot TV flint. Fight night and You can check out. Participants like Anthony taking place plan Ea's UFC three from their PS fours. Offer good caused Anthony. Congratulations on everything. Really appreciate you and the way you give back and hopefully we'll catch up down the road man appreciate you having me on on all right. Good stuff I'm rick. It'll take a quick break. Come on back you gotTA open segment If you or a loved one is suffering from physical or emotional condition that has left you unable to work then. Listen carefully take this number down. Eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one. That's eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one when you call you'll speak with a social security disability expert and get a free evaluation to see if you may qualify for disability insurance benefits from the US government. 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If that sounds fun it wasn't but they they had a staff of a lot of FBI. People foreign born Irish and one of them was father burn and he goes Halley. My friends or office and he would shake your hand and he would try to break every in your hand which I didn't think was funny at fourteen. Like why is this priest squeezing my hand as hard as he could discuss and I go. What are you doing? I always treat my friends their office but only after Thanksgiving we came back. And I heard about this. 'cause my little brother you're behind me. You got thrown out of his class because father said did you have Cherki for tanks giving you have Cherki for Thanksgiving. My brother Said No. We had taken out. Qatada cloth anyway back to Jordan. We got to see a little bit into the gambling reputation. Ooh The one thing that the golden boy Jordan squeaky clean image remember the Jordan rules came out and oh Jordan. Oh he said. Don't pass the ball to Whitey. It's it's not that bad. I wouldn't either. But the gambling thing it was nineteen ninety-three and became front page news that he was seen at an Atlantic City casino the night before game two of the Eastern Conference finals against the Knicks took a little trip down to. Ac didn't play well in game one which Chicago lost and then game too. He kind of burned out down the stretch and the Knicks took too seriously. It didn't matter. They won the series but the media connected the dots. Jordan must've been tired from an all. Nighter wasn't the first time a gambling headline was hovering over. Jordan's head to WHO BECAUSE He previously had paid a debt of over fifty grand to a drug dealer slash. Money Launderer who he later. Had to go to court to testify against guy named slim but Does that mean Jordan has a gambling program Problem it's I think. Ridiculous assertion that people make then and now. There's a devastating like gambling. And then a problem. It's like Oh Ricardo has a video game problem if I never shower and I let my fingernails get like Howard Hughes and No humans ever talked to me because I have clockwork orange. My eyeballs know everything in moderation. Plus he had a lot of cash so you say how. Can YOU LOSE? Fifty thousand dollars gambling. Because that's like fifty bucks to him okay. He's beyond rich and he's competitive as competitive can be and gambling US something. Millions of people love to do. And you're supposed to do it within the confines of what you can afford not screwing up everything which sometimes it's a fine line to walk was Jordan ruining everything Let's see now. He was not ruining everything. But these are the type of things that Sam. Smith's Book Corus Sam Smith in 'cause I don't think you know of Jordan rules. The book was not a hatchet job by the way Sam Smith being interviewed. Now he's got. This sort of trevor was the guy's name on the giants he's smiling. He's not smiling. It was just. It wasn't a hatchet job was behind the curtain. Look at Michael Jordan. The old be like Mike Gatorade Guy. What's really like but Jordan was not used to negative press. He had good relationships with reporters. You know it's Funny Lynn. You hear about you know Jordan San Pointing at reporters insane. I got you reports. Used to be much more powerful much more influential back in the day. And it's because this is all we did. We read the sports page. What I was hosting this show. If I didn't have the sports page in front of me when I first started I'd be like Oh. How do I know what's going on? You know we just read everything now off the Internet but these guys held a big rap specially in their towns. And you know there's no social media back then there's a carefully crafted brand image. A image and Jordan was able to with David. Falk shape that image. Just right which reminds me now of Kevin Durant not play style and they both have rings but durant is one of those all time great players as I said there's Jordan and everybody else Brad Pitt but to say the least he's quite touchy about what people say about him and the differences social media is around now so durant. Here's everything about himself and he's insecure about it and he's created burner accounts and he's you know. There was a kid in his dorm. It was eighteen years old saying yeah I gotta say Durant when it comes down to is not clutch. And then he's like why not? Why would you say I'm not clutch? Like oh my Gosh and you think about Michael. That whole year fills not coming back then. Jordan said well. I'm not going back and fills not coming back so every day. Are you not coming back? Mike? And He Kinda Smile and Laugh K next question. Durant got asked that twice and had a baby about it because durant was in a walk year and one time it was Ethan Strauss and another time it was Mark Medina and then he's like he told the media grow up never that his famous grow up speech. I wasn't there for that that day. Not beat writer. I was there for like playoff games. Because he was asked twice and one of them was after a trade had gone down with the UNI brow and Sago. And now we hear this now. You're gonNA join the Lakers. He says grow up and then the Knicks. Oh they've freed up some cash. There's no more porzingas. So you're going to the Knicks grow up. Jordan was privately stewing obviously about things but he was more stewing about stuff like Clyde Drexler. He enjoyed her the same. He's like were this same. I'm offended by that time. He has it over on Jordan. No he doesn't and Jordan says my fame. It was good at the beginning. Anytime people talk about you in a positive way and it's great to hear those comments but now that you're on a pedestal. It's just not the positive talk. You're hearing your some people taking shots at you and that really changes the whole idea of being out there for people to see now. Do you remember the seen where it showed Jordan in his hotel room smoking a cigar? He goes this. This is my only bite you know. The second he got off the Elevator Blah People. Just dying like leaning over the railing. Please look at me touch me. Sign this oh my gosh so you can say maybe durant and like the fact. That steph curry was getting attention when he was getting attention. I mean when people if somebody suggested pippen is actually better than Jordan is right now humanity. How Livid Jordan would be but you can bet if twitter was around in nineteen ninety there would be plenty of Laker fans who would be saying Magic's better and I mean it's just it would be so stupid like it is now I mean we. We see it in real time. This isn't the type of where we're going to go back and say you know what. Maybe the pet rock wasn't a great idea. We know now that twitter stupid so it's in real time Gavin. That's how it is right now but in defensive durant he's a human being and we all are sensitive to different things. Bam. Our JIRA is scared of snakes. We all have our own things and so kids doesn't make Kevin Durant a bad guy because he doesn't like hearing criticism and his knee jerk. Reaction is not to turn the other cheek or to just let it go so Jordan had again on. This one guy wrote a book. Oh golfed with puts picture on the cover. Look here's me Jordan. Golfing scumbag could come back little sailing fix a and the house where the promise to vote. I wanted to ask why this is Karen. Lyle of Sport Talk. And I've been having a continuing conversation with Sir Robin Knox Johnson. He is in Portsmouth Hampshire England and of course I am here in the San Francisco Bay area in California the United States and we have been discussing the time at sea and also gardening. You were actively involved in saline an ocean graduate. You know I went to see when I was in the brain and we had the mess fantastic training. I mean those days Britain had eighteen percent mentioned ships had a really good system setup for it and I say safe for the next twelve years and then the truth around the welcome that but after down The whole system is changing and I didn't like the way it was going side if the sea and I will Sabrina on the handle with a bunch of friends and student nature. But you know it was it was. It was time to change. Things are changing the British match Ramos collapsing. And it wasn't a good time to that. Because you're going to be made redundant so I'd probably pick the right time to get out but after that I buy raced was in business. Obviously dog societal. I still like racing. Side kept on racing on one around Britain race twice. I was in visage Doubles Cup team. The whitbread race. I beat Frenchman in both leagues. I A lend. I went to do other things like winning. The Multi Hull will championship. I was just racing because I love Gracie I might pull wife just to put up with it. Got Me was just say the garden needs supposing out you say reducted okay. I better do this. You like gardening. I love gardening was nothing desert to me watching. Spring would have been starting to grow. And what you wanted is coming out looking at this. I of cobbing. I didn't bullets with Pity crime didn't hear it. It's the city two thousand people and the yard ready with about three square meters garden. But I'm proud to advertise dog night nurtured. What I'd really like is lot more space to grow up more clouds. Thank you sir. Robin for that level chat this past weekend. I took a tour of the San Francisco Bay and my sailboat. Sandpiper and spotted three signal flags C. G over one on the port side of the San Francisco Yacht clubs mass those familiar with maritime history know that this configuration states. I will stand by to assist you. The San Francisco Maritime Association hopes that yacht clubs around the world might also fly these flags. I will stand by to assist you. That is a great message. This is caroline of sales sport. Talk a all right. Thank you for that and welcome back to the show Rick till with you. Coast to coast around the world on American Forces Radio Network. It's Tuesday at nine. Forty am out here in California. And that means sale sports talk DOT COM and Always Co hosting the segment with me. Is Karen Lyle also at her home in the East Bay? How're you doing? Karen has to go out and have carried out the ocean on the on. My boat is less weekend. You got to go out on your boat okay. I think I caught the end of that. We do have a guest. So let's bring her in its. Pm McDonald MacDonald is epidemiologist and the senior director of applied research at international Twenty five years of experience in this field of public health and PIA. Thank you so much. How does How are we dealing with the pandemic when it comes to the sailing world? Thank you. Thank you for having me so being a sailor myself I've had pretty minimal experience. I did some sailing in high school on the San Francisco Bay but That's pretty much my experience with dealing though I come to it more from the epidemiological standpoint of disease and how it moves around the world and move through populations and interestingly the history of infectious diseases and sailing goes back a very long time so I suspect that boaters and sailors have more experience with the concept that the general population today are having to learn intimately so examples include isolation and quarantine. Those are things that go back deep into the history of sailing imports whereas those might be new terms for some of the more landlocked book Not GonNa McDonald's wife killing nineteen so different different from pandemics of the path. Yeah that's a good question. And many people ask me as an infectious disease epidemiologist. Is this really something worrying? Is it something I should be concerned about the world overreacting to covert nineteen and I can tell you in in Twenty Five Years Doing Infectious Disease Epidemiology? This is been one of the most frightening things that I have seen. And it's really something that continues to keep me up at night and I can assure you that. We are not overreacting at all in tears. Why the the novel Corona Virus that Causes Covert nineteen disease is totally new to humans lethal pathogen? We're all susceptible to the virus as far as we can tell since we've not been exposed to it in the past. We also know that it moves to one person to another quickly and efficiently and we're still trying to figure out exactly how it does it and under what circumstances the other scary thing that people can infect it before they even know they're sick so that's called as symptomatic and that means that someone can walk around feel fine and actually be spreading the virus from one person to another the other. Scary thing is. We don't have a vaccine earliest. Vaccines could possibly go into study in humans in early twenty twenty one that means that they get studied in humans. We don't know and we won't know for quite a while if those vaccines works so there's multiple different vaccine candidates but if they work and when they work and when they can be produced in a way to actually make enough for for various populations across the world that also is very much to be determined. The other thing is we don't have effective therapeutics so if someone gets sick we don't have effective way to necessarily treat them and then there's still so much we don't know about the basics around transmission epidemiology clinical treatment and other things so that's a really terrifying claims to be starting from and that's what makes us pandemic particularly scary. You mentioned Ports and how in the old days this is how you know a lot of transmissions took place as sailors bringing it in a lot of times Unknowingly to a new place around the world and we know the stories about being at sea and the privations and the starvation and the scurvy. And they didn't know why there was scurvy and it turned out it was just a lack of vitamin C. And so a lot of things these things in your field people had to learn the hard way and a lot of them were sailors. Weren't they yes? So it was interesting back and even look at the word. Quarantine Quarantine is actually derived from the Venetian dialect and it refers to forty days and comes from the early thirteen. Hundred ships were required to lay anchor for forty days prior to the crew being able to go on land and that was to prevent the plague the black death moving from boats into port and so that notion of quarantine and what that means the sailors have been managing and working and figuring out how to live on ships isolated for forty days in a port waiting and that is a very new concept for a lot of people but again even the word goes back to the earliest days of of trade and travel and both well not McDonald right now. Just I'm just GONNA give you a case a case it's happening right now in in in the world is that there are maybe two to five hundred votes that are in different parts of Different Oceans and the Caribbean Sea in the Mediterranean and Indian Ocean that need to come home to Europe and their small boats. They're not coming all at the same time. They have sailors on him. Any hurricane season coming up in those hurricanes those boats can be cat. Five lives can be lost and none of these sailors have had an opportunity to provision. Because they didn't know that covered nineteen. What's going to happen now? I realized that this is something where we we. We're GONNA have a long-term planning is going to have to happen for these coming years. But what what types of things could've could've a government report take into consideration You know for the sailors who are coming in from your perspective and expertise. Yeah so this issue. A boats and people moving around the world and and really not cruise ships. We're talking about smaller basketball. So there's there's issues from both sides the people who are coming into port. They'd been to other places. Maybe maybe not. Let's say they've been on the boat for fourteen days and we know they're not infected with the corona virus because they haven't shown symptoms for fourteen days which is the incubation period for the disease. So while they they become into port. They're bringing themselves but they're also bringing their sewage. They're bringing their sewage into and that needs to be managed we do. There is knowledge that there could be virus shedding in sewage. So if they've been sick with Cova nineteen or other diseases that can transfer via sewage. There is an issue of the sewage. Potentially being contaminated. Let's say that the people are fine and they come to report if they're moving is they're coming into a port where there is a lot of transmission of the virus within the community. It's quite dangerous to go on short. Because they're susceptible was likely and the people on shore may or may not have the disease and the virus and the spreading to be able to spread to the people while they're getting gas or getting food in the stores and that type of thing nonetheless. There's gotta be a safe a safe. Irv Way to do that kind of business. Because voters are experiencing the same thing that people living on land are experiencing in terms of being into get provisions to bring them home so I think moving bullard grocery stores and gas stations and other essential services are working very hard in the various countries to figure out how to do business almost as usual but with the the Interventions in place to minimize risk to both those who need come into the stores or get those services as well as to protect the employees of establishments. We're GONNA have to get creative and think out of the box and how to do that kind of stuff safely so I think voters have similar issues as the general population living on land. And it's a new way. We're going to have to do business for a while when you you know. There's a lot of blame game going on right. Now which is probably counterproductive. We should put all our focus into stopping this right now but as someone who's been doing this your whole career and you've seen a Bola and Avian Flu. Sars Zeke and all this stuff could could you see this coming or could you. At least see. We're not going to be ready for this. If hits in earnest like this yes so I've worked for a long time in public health preparedness. Those don't ethically internationally and the all of us who work in useful to know that you know just the same. If you live in California you know there will be a next big earthquake. We know that there's no way around that fact. We hope that that's going to not happen. And we use a lot of denial. The convince ourselves. We'll be safe if it happens. The same is true of pandemics. We know that there are certain very dangerous pathogens that we do not have effective treatment or vaccine those include things like merce which is the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. Which is has its corona viruses. Well we know that we know meet the virus loss of fever and there have been NGOs and government consortium to are working on developing vaccines for those customers diseases. That don't impact a lot of people. A lot of pharmaceutical companies than vaccine manufacturers are not interested in in those corona virus. Really comes out of nowhere because I I shouldn't say nowhere. Corona viruses were thought to be innocuous because they do 'cause traditional colds during the winter season so ten to thirty percent of all winter colds come from various forms of krona virus. Those are not thought to be lethal but stars is a corona virus. Immerses a carnival than those popped up in The two thousand and those were the first instant of a deadly weasel to human corona virus. And now we're seeing the next iteration on that the thing there's a lot of Things about this virus that are surprising and the fact it is so new and so widespread is really. What's up ending our public health system so in an in an outbreak or epidemic. What happened to one place like bullying West Africa? The rest of the world was able to support the response to a bullet in West Africa. Because we didn't have that going on in our countries but in this situation where the pandemic and it's it's impacting all countries. Pretty much at the same time. We're not being we. It's very hard to help others. And we're all scrambling for the same equipment like the You know personal protective equipment like masks and hospital Captain Gown and respirators were all scrambling for the same stuff and there's issues with the supply chain. Most pharmaceutical products and and and even treatment the ingredients in most of our pharmaceuticals come from China and India. So when their supply chain is disrupted that has a ripple effect on the rest of the world in terms of us being able to do healthcare as we know it. So there's those kind of issues that are very dangerous but but I would have thought I thought our next big challenge as a global community was actually going to be some form of pandemic influenza so influences one of those that we have seasonal influenza. That's more traditional. Sometimes it can have a higher fatality rates than other years. But we have a vaccine for that. It's not always effective but there are new forms of influence. They get mixed and matched with animals and humans mingling together. I thought that the pandemic would be that. I thought the most next week talk. Pandemic would be one in the form of influenza so the fact that it was the corona virus. That is a surprise to me fascinating stuff from Dr Pierre. Mcdonald's senior director of applied research our international doctor. Thank you so much for your time and What you're doing for all of us and hopefully we'll Maybe catch up in a better time. Thank you thanks for calling epidemiologist to ask these kind of question. Yes and Karen just in ten seconds. How has your John Out on the bay? I had five hours playing out in the ocean on Swells that were far apart and pleasant right before the fog king so I to get back inside the gate before the king. Alright Karen thank you. We'll talk to you next week. Sports Talk Dot Com. I'm Rick Tuttle. Come on back. Are you over fifty? Would you like to get up to thirty three percent more income in retirement than call now for this free book? Annuity do's and don'ts for baby boomers from a leading financial firm on maximizing your income in retirement. That's right free. 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It is highly likely it was naturally occurring and the human infection was from natural human and animal interaction. Cnn as the country's in the five is intelligence sharing coalition or coalescing around the assessment meantime the US has yet to make a formal assessment public. A new analysis of the death count from unknown causes. It accounts cove nineteen death. Numbers may be incomplete which has implications for the process of reopening states like Ohio recent. Cdc Data Indicates Ohio overall death rates are flat not so in New York which is seen them double so far this year policy analyst. Lauren Anthony with the Center for Community Solutions Warns At assessment may be overly rosy because the buckeyes state is lagging behind on reporting its data. We're likely looking like RON trends. Because the data is an accurate and so going to happen is once the data catches up. We're GONNA see these numbers change the data show threefold spike in the number of deaths from unknown cases in Ohio. For the past four months at the says it could indicate clinic. Didn't know what hit them. At first as a testing ramps up the coming weeks the state will be better able to determine the true Cova nineteen mortality rate native Americans facing a series of barriers voting. In Montana's upcoming primary election. Eric it off explains due to Kuban. Nineteen all Montana counties are providing a vote by mail option. Marcy McLean head of Western. Native Voice says this presents the first challenge for native Americans on Reservations. The overwhelming majority of whom have their mail delivered to a post office. Box because of the virus. Mclean says there are health risks with giving folks rides to ballot offs or their post office which can be miles away. 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They don't you. Administration has the back of the companies and we'll support to companies and do everything it can to prioritize the supply chain over the people who actually make the supply chain run according to data from the CDC nearly five thousand cases of Covy nineteen have been confirmed about workers in one hundred fifteen meat and poultry processing facilities across the country. Finally Mark. Richardson tells US Arizona. Consumer groups want regulated power companies to use cost savings from lower power demand during the pandemic to provide emergency aid to ratepayers. The coalition is asking the Arizona Corporation Commission to prevent the state's largest private power utilities from using funds already earmarked for future energy efficiency programs to pay for a proposed emergency customer relief. 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Thank you for that. Welcome back to the show coast to coast around the world on American forces. It's our pleasure to welcome Marshall to the show. His new book is called both feet on the ground. Marshall is an extreme endurance athlete. He's done a lot of things that people might say are crazy. He would say are great and now at this book. Marshall you're saying not only is going outside good for you physically but it's therapeutic As well mentally. It's the whole deal you're saying right. Yes that's exactly what I'm saying You know I I like Certain things like Air Fire water in how we can connect with that so you know with the elements of the Earth as well within the book what I do is I talk a little bit about how our food is sourced. I talk about that but yeah it's very healing to go outside as as we have discovered particularly With the covert nineteen. I saw a study of the other day and I believe the number was ninety three percent and that was the amount of time the average human spends at least in the Western world spins indoors. I I wouldn't think you fit into that ninety three percent what would it be your percentage of having a roof over your head day in and day out. Well I would say maybe a third of the time when I'm sleeping Of that I try and be outside most of the time and particularly like doing extreme events of course being outside because it helps me connect not only with the earth but you know of course myself what is it about I mean. You've you've done things like I mean. First of all climbing Mount Everest that would be in and of itself the adventure of a lifetime. But a for a guy like you. That's just one little box that you tick and you just go onto the next thing. What what is it about you that you'd think Is the Serbian Hillary? I'm climbing it. Because it's their type situation you don't not so much. I think it's a personal challenge. But it's also a creative challenge for me to just create new things My basis for running of course and then I got into adventure racing like the challenges and so on so forth but the mountaineering I touched upon that because that was a dream of mine since I was five years old to climb Mount Everest so I don't want to say you know was something that I wanted to tick off Because you know. I think that's disrespectful to the mountain and I know that sounds kind of Corny but You know it's just kind of you know who I am. I disliked things that are challenging and challenge myself and low and behold the I find going outside brings me inside To what I made of and I discovered peacefulness also very interesting. And can you share? Your experience will quickly. Because I've been seeing these shows where I mean it's hard enough just to get to base camp and then you have to have everything. Go right and the timing has to be perfect and the storms. Come with no warning and I saw this thing the other day where these guys looked like they were gonNA have their window to make it but there were some Weekend Warrior type climbers who were blocking one of the the ladders and the timing wasn't working out and the base camp told them. Look you gotta come back down now or you're GONNA die. I mean what was that. Like for you at the timing and everything having to go just right well. I climbed with Russians from the north side. The Russian or north side is a little bit more technical in literally the camps were so we just had one camp and so we had to draw straws and we were just outside of good weather window however So when we started out on that morning summit morning You know here. We are at twenty seven thousand feet and I climbed with another person is is name was David the Angelo and we just had a very narrow window and it was storming. There was thirty mile an hour winds There was another group of Italians that were just in front of us and because the weather was so bad. It was supposed to clear up supposedly. It was so bad that nobody from the south or the north side got out of their tents except us to climbing groups the Italians and us so there were six of us on the mountain total. We got up to the top. The window opened up. We had about an hour of good weather where the sun actually came through and then on the way down at started dumping snow and we had six feet but You know I had a good experience. Of course I'd had a lot of experience with the ECO. Challenge is doing work Traveling with crampons so on and so forth The altitude was the most most technical difficult part of it But you know when I got to the top rick what I felt was just extreme gratitude for about twenty thirty minutes that we spend up there and then it got to be just a little bit creepy. I mean you're thinking to yourself because you pass bodies on the way up and some of them are still clip to the ropes. Six died That year when I was going up so Before me so it's it's kind of creepy place but you really have to keep your wits about you more than anything and just be confident that you can succeed and what you put your mind to and if something happens That is out of your control you know. Take for instance. The weather comes in. You. Just gotTA BE SMART You know what's more valuable getting to the toppers saving your own life. That's absolutely amazing. And you know you've you've run across the Gobi desert you've run through jungles and in Fiji and it just reminds the bill bryson line that he said he wants ran through spiderweb so big that it was more like someone throwing a net on him. Have you ever had any problems with a perilous situations? Then he critters and your travels you know not so much out in death valley. I've run into you know Scorpions and things like that. I did a a circumnavigation where we dug cashews and we were totally self sufficient went around death valley like they were. Scorpions there Although they didn't bother us unless you get them in your sleeping bag or crawling your shoe or something like that But we've been pretty fortunate. Nothing and we'd been paddling out on the open seas and things during the Eko challenges There's been spiders and snakes and things but you know if you pay attention there. Most the time. They're more afraid of you than you are of them. So you know nothing nothing that Out of the ordinary I suppose Besides the fact that we just saw a lot of you know very different animals different places. Okay very cool finally both feet on the ground reflections from the outside I know you've done so many speaking engagements and try to take what you learned and persevered through your experience and put it into the just the corporate world but into the everyday world and we really need advice like this in these times when people are cooped up and losing their minds so what. What will this book bring to the every man? Well I think it will hopefully will molded that. Motivate them to not be afraid of going outside trying something different to persevered through whatever it is that they challenge that they face but mostly to get out there. Find an inner peace by going outside Getting out on the trails and so on and so forth and I do realize that you have to be safe. Of course you know by wearing masks and so on and so forth but You know it's very important to pay attention to that but you can get out on the city streets and maintain a distance and things like that. But you can. All you have to do is get outside even for you know fifteen minutes to thirty minutes in. It'll it'll give you a piece and retain your sanity. WanNa make sure that everybody checks out Marshall or new book go to marshal or a dot com but of course big hit with this first book running on empty. This one is called both feet on the ground reflections from the outside from DNA. Looks Marshall congratulations on another great book and Hopefully we'll catch up down the road on them. Okay thank you I appreciate you. Having me on the show goodstuff open lines next. I'm Rick Tuttle. Come on back on sports by hi. I'm Dr Robert Clapper Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at Cedars Sinai Medical Group in Los Angeles California dedicated to your health. Your life and your sports as a weekend warrior. You know about sports injuries and pain exercises important element in keeping your body's core in good shape to minimize sports injuries. 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You meet her at a bar and in the morning I just figured she was a raging alcoholic God I wish you would try and slap Rick Kittles Mama's space he would clown you are getting line to get clowned rekindle with you and I believe unless we get some flakes and I mean that of course the most loving way This is the last scheduled open segment so feel free to participate one. Eight hundred eight seven a play and ESPN is bragging about the Jordan thing. But they're also bragging about they have K B O Games. That's right kittles body odor and the Korean baseball organization. They are bragging today Well it already got played a one. Am Colorado and Eduardo Perez? John Chombiono Cal Peterson Jessica. Mendoza they're all going to be doing these from their homes but that was on at eleven o'clock here last night one. Pm or one am eastern and tomorrow at five thirty am eastern. Two-thirty tonight. Right around the time I go to bed literally another game And if you're into it then you're really excited right but you figure like I don't want baseball for baseball sake or maybe you do. The thing is there's only ten teams and maybe you need a little thumbnail on who you should be rooting for. I don't have a team yet. Maybe after we go over this I will the Dussan bears those so. That's the team. I know the best. They're the first established team the first champion in league history they started in nineteen eighty two they also are the current holders of the title and a bit of a powerhouse and they the Korean series which is their world series. They've been in six of the past seven and you might be called a front runner if you pull for debt bears. That's okay by the way. They're young pitcher Lee. Young Ha twenty two years. Old is a rising ace. Then the other team I think gets a lot of player the Kia Tigers and they get great gas mileage and they're also a hugely successful team. They've won the title eleven times. Think about this. They've been to the Korean series eleven times. There are eleven. No Jerry Seinfeld George Kramer. Eleven in Ohio is pristine beyond belief buffalo bills like that and blush title in the last ten years was three years ago the top performer last year. Pitching wise was tigers. Left-hander NAMED YOUNG JOE. Yong who through to a two two nine The LG twins all these teams have formed an eighty two and that's otherwise noted but the LG twins of course Kia obviously the car company. Lg is The Electronics Company. And they're just named after the Minnesota twins. That's already too boring for me. The Lahti giants Cao's original six NHL. And they're the lovable losers. Apparently they're the most popular team in Korea and they've only won two titles in their history and so they are the least successful of the original six and they finished dead last in the league last year they only won forty eight games but if you do have strains and a team maybe like the the fashion because they have. This kind of throwback San Francisco giants type of Not had the hat is a G. It's not an SF but they're definitely orange and black and I like the fact that they have the Kappa logo and Kappa the Italian company which has a man and a woman sitting back to back. And maybe they're nude. Maybe they're not. You can't really tell but I remember I was wearing a tottenham kappa check to a youth soccer game and one of the DADS said that joke. It's pornography you're stupid and I'm not going to remove it but a passionate fan base remind you of the cubs lovable losers. Of course then. They started winning so by the way the giants mascot is they call the adorable Siegel. And it's a little bird the beak and he's got white hair coming out from under his giants Cap. Why it's a seagull with the giants. I don't know but then again we have Lucille because pure thirty nine then we have the loose ale that I saw getaway from a place in Chinatown. We have the Samsung lions original six. They've been to the postseason more than any other team. Twenty seven times. Not titles like Yanks They have eight Korea series titles though that is the second most they went to dominant stretch beginning this decade. They won four Korea series in war in a row. Eleven twelve thirteen fourteen and then ten fifteen book ending it. They lost but they haven't called five for the playoffs in five years and the lions look almost exactly like the Detroit lions which is weird. The Hanwha Eagles came in in Nineteen eighty-six and the Hanwha Eagles were the very first expansion team and K B O. They have not won any playoff series in thirteen years. And since then they've only qualified once things have not been good but they have a very passionate fan base. They had a little bit of success. In early. Two thousands they are nicknamed the dynamite bats not Hanwha food bats or ozzy. Osbourne Bat and Hanwa's reputation is for explosives hitting K S. K Y Verne's or dragons without arms. These guys came in in two thousand and they started off the season. The best team in the entire league. They blew a seven game lead late. They finished top with the deuce on bears. They went to the playoffs and they were swept in the first round there player. There is a corner infielder named Jong Choi and last year. He hit two ninety by the way in his fifteen years. K B O. Three hundred and thirty home runs and exactly one thousand. Rbi about that and then a couple more teams you got the key wound heroes which came in in two thousand eight. They were third last year behind S. K. Induce on they made the Korean series but fell short for their first title ever their mascot is T- okeydoke Dory which means Mr Jaw. It's a guy with a big jaw. I don't know what the cultural ramifications are about that but there are two major league prospects on that team shortstop named Hocine Kim and outfitter named Chung who Lee. Who will be posted this winter by the way the guy who lead in home runs last year is on that team building whole park. And he is an expert bat flipper and then they said a couple more the NC diagnose. Dyno's have some really weird dinosaur mascot the massacred the mascot. The main one is dandy the tyrannosaurus. They've got a couple of good young players best position players they're catcher named Yuji Yang and they have a great young pitching Chongwu coup. Who's only twenty three and then finally the last team is the K T whiz which is going into their fifth season and they stink. They have done nothing in there. I for years. So here's an opportunity to get in on the ground floor if you want that. Now if you're into the MERCH game you might like their hat. But they have a couple of horrifying demons and ghosts as their mascot. Which I don't get but they do have one kid and I mean kid. He's twenty years old. He's an outfielder named bake whole Kong. Who a lot of people say is the future of the League and guy who was rookie of the year last year and Making his debut against the Lahti giants going three for five with three home runs. So what team would I want the Wiz now? It sounds like the dyno's the heroes? The Wide Verne's the eagles the lions giants that twins the Tigers the bears. Do I WANNA be a front runner? Honest opinion is I don't like any of them but me maybe I'll take the dinas just because they're so stupid I don't know I can't say I'm on board with any of them but baseball's on ESPN. They will remind you that I will talk a little hockey on the other side. 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Get it out. Here's a Patrick Who Cares about anything else? When you've got rick tittle on the radio. I know it's so true. Welcome back to the show to the with you. Coast to coast and around the world on American Forces Radio Network. We like to check in once a week with our friend. Bruce Marshall he has the gold sheet for all your prognostication needs down in Las Vegas but we use the segment to talk about the National Hockey League and Bruce Right after we basically got off the phone last week the NHL came out with the twenty four team playoff format. That's been floated. Nothing is of course going to happen. Just Yet but we have to find out when the precise date of the transition is the phase. Two we know that the DNA the NFL's going release a schedule. Major League. Baseball is close to releasing something as well. But what do you think about a twenty four team playoff format? I'm okay with it Rick. I mean it's it's different. It's it's a different situation this year is you know and You know maybe that's what's required to get this stuff going again this year There is some precedent for this if you remember the NFL. Back in nineteen eighty two loss. Basically half of it to work stoppage that you're Doubled the size of its playoffs for that. One season and one-season only Sixteen from eight to sixteen back in nineteen eighty two So it's not unprecedented for them to consider for export to do something like this and this is certainly a You know he's he's situations that require something different to be done so I I'd be I'd be whole heartedly for though I'm I've got a pretty low bar to clear in that regard wreck. I'd be happy with any sort of hockey or NBA or baseball right now. So if they WANNA THEY WANNA go eighteen. That'd be fine with that but that's not well. The AP was reporting that maybe they could do a pod city in Edmonton and Toronto but then the PM. Justin Trudeau said basically Great but any foreigner coming into Canada is going to have to follow the quarantine protocols and so that's the thing to remember about hockey is is not only. Is it a union full of international players? I mean fifty percent basically come from outside North America but it's it's a sport in in two different countries with different rules to yeah and and the international thing makes it a little bit difficult right now quarantining. So that's why I don't think Any I mean even if they decided right. Now we're going to do this The mechanics to to put it together. Probably mean that they couldn't start until June one anyway. my my gut feel is that that's just because of the logistics involved in because of still a lot of the unknowns That June is probably certainly early June. It's probably too soon if they are okay. Doing this in July and August I and that's an I could sorta see. Mlb taking off right around fourth of July. Anyway then I think it might be doable. But it's GonNa take you know at least three weeks or so. I think To get physical logistics ready get the teams to play and all that and And yet they. I mean it's still just talk speech and actually get into the mechanics of making it work. It's GonNa take a while to put it together if they don't start it by July at the start of July. They might as well. Just wait 'til next season because then you're pushing to and it's doable. I mean this. This is ended up effectively being in the summer break. Although at different can't really go anywhere for these teams but I mean they would have had that much time off but they tend to get back on the ice so July August September as the you know the sort of a roster shakeups the team changing free agency and all that compressed and then started mid you know made our. Tober in November perhaps but They're gonNA have to juggle it but I don't see any of these sports before July really getting going. That's the best case scenario you know and I think it's also a jarring reminder when you see some of these athletes like if you look at yours rock and you know. He's at a hockey now. But this guy was such an enforcer over the years thing most remember him with with Edmund Ten but a couple of days ago posted a picture of himself in a hospital bed you know on a ventilator with the big smile on his face they said he has cove nineteen he's asthmatic he said. Hey all fight it off and it's You know you think about big tough strong guys this. This guy was about as big and tough as it came and the good news is. He's sitting there smiling face. He looks good. But it's still it's jarring to see one of your own laying in a bed like that so I'm sure for the players that was maybe a little bit of a wakeup call for them. Yeah it is and You know it's GonNa be a bit jarring and I think that's the other thing too You're talking about Active players at this stuff and if somebody's tested with it and even if his team is I mean you could. You could have a a player. They're going have to through the summer if they do get back in July or whenever they're going to have to be testing the active players and if one of them comes down with the corona them You know he couldn't play. But then you think your whole team's to be quarantined so there's a lot of. There's a lot of delicate things that have to go on here. Short-term I mean let's hope you know down the road here that they can figure something out here. And the whole and in the fall to the social distancing Alex longer that endures the more disruptive everything is going to be and I live in place here in Las Vegas. The better start asking itself some hard questions if it wants to be viable in the future You know Never mind go nights. It's just Las Vegas and general social distancing if it is a permanent thing Kills Las Vegas? Kills me so Let's just talk. This is just a short term fix here but short-term made is what it is so that's what the NHL He's other sports have to Kinda figure it looks like the NFL's put something together that makes it a little bit of sense But what's the those are also mostly outdoor stadiums. Indoor activity be a little bit different. Come more questions for Bruce Marshall in Vegas with the goal sheet about the NHL. On Friday. The Deputy Commissioner Bill. Daly sent a memo to all the teams. Espn got a hold of it. And they're reportedly targeting June five draft. Which is three weeks before the schedule draft which was supposed to be on. June twenty six and twenty seventh in in Montreal because the League points out that if the season resumes and runs into the summer that they'll have a very short window of time to prep between a draft lottery and the draft itself hearing that the NHL is enthusiastically in favour of an early draft. And they think it's a great opportunity to get fans reengaged for who've been missing hockey for for six weeks and you know you get to junior talking about maybe up to two to three months but I think it's interesting when you hear about you know. Mlb pushing back their draft the NHL is pushing up their draft. I think it's a good idea right for just as reasons you said. And the reasons mister daily mentioned that because you know it does. Kinda put hockey becky out there. If the teams figure they can still do a decent job with the draft and doesn't change how much they were the mechanics of it too much other than maybe the you know the one venue thing but There were like the NFL. Yeah I think I think it can do you can. They can make adjustments with with timing and all that Because of the situation right now listen to the drafts and in general throughout history you know I'll referred back to the NFL. I mean it's the NFL draft. When I was growing up in the sixties and rick they helped draft even before the NFL merge was for the regular season. And I mean it would be in November and December. You'd have drafts. And this was the league's warning and even right after the merger. I mean drafts are usually held January right after the Super Bowl. So you know. Lately they have been here at this late April. She just had two weeks ago. So that there's nothing etched install when you have to have a draft and it's you know in the NHL just a couple of weeks earlier than it normally would have been. I'll be no season going on at the same time so it's different but I applaud the. Nhl Wants to do that. I feel for it for sure now on the NHL they have fifteen lottery teams and the report is that they're gonNA use point percentages amassed until the League shut down on March twelfth to figure out who they who those teams are and then the other picks they save will be at the League's discretion which is very open window You'd think they would just go by by record so There's going to be some some complications. There's still some questions about how they're going to draft day trades for the NA for the NFL draft day trades. Were just about as normal as they as they always would but it would be but I think one of the more interesting things is the fact that daily said that the teams will be more prepared for this early draft than they've ever been and on the one hand you'd say well You know you're doing much quicker but on the other hand. They've been sitting on their hands for six weeks. And while you don't scout personally right now at least you've got some tape on these guys so I guess I guess I understand. But what do you think about the league's discretion to determine the other spots? Somebody's mad that I'm sure and I don't know if they can cover the something perfect i. I think that that one's GonNa be a little bit up in the air. I would be with you. Just do you know the whole thing. Points percentage thing and just do it as a shutdown Like the other point you make is you're right. They've had not much else to do. The last seven weeks or so so certainly able to pour over the draft stuff more southern normally might have been. You're right about the traits players involved. It's hard if that usually happens during draft at the seasons technically still going on. I would hope by June five though that they would have. I'm thinking is right around. And they can announce when they're gonNA reap starting and maybe it's going to be July and there will be a little bit of a rush for any interest so and all that stuff happens. I think it'd be good and then finally you know as they say you you know Vegas better than anybody and we know how important the casinos are to the business and the casinos. Of course you could say on the one hand. They are already kind of a petri dish because everybody is so jammed in there. But what what is what is. We've seen like these McDonald's hall and we'll say we're GONNA put these little spots where everyone stands six feet apart how you GonNa play blackjack. Six feet apart. Have they come up with an in scenarios like No they haven't yet but I mean they're talking about re possibilities reopen and all of these guidelines there keeping people this much apart that would be economically devastating because people listen. It's human interaction that makes the hotels and casinos in particular the main appeal of it. And what you've done is take human interaction home in a way. If you're going to implement all these things maybe have some of the stuff short-term but it can't be a long term thing And it's it's most people in Vegas for Leisure and when leisure becomes work That changes the dynamic as well one of the thing about Vegas to this is a major convention city and if that whole industry sorta of dries up and there's every indication that probably will at least a major hits Las Vegas. It's GonNa take a huge hit with that. They are looking at it even when they opened this thing up and I've talked to some people in town here who were just dense about this think. Oh Yeah it's GONNA BOUNCE RIGHT BACK. No it won't and For drivers walking come here is much safer be doom and gloom about it but Las Vegas is one place that is really going to have to figure this thing out or it's going to be a lot more trouble for a longer period of time and the gold sheet. What's going on? Well raped like you and everybody else are some games. Otherwise I'm just putting some stuff up there some nothing and working in a few other things but until some games come up won't have too much game is to talk about but we have some good read stuff up there some good stories in my draft which was The preview which end up pretty good picked the first time. Pretty good but We talked about what the teams have done off season up to that point. So it's a good week and Y- yeah gold sheet DOT COM. Make sure to check it out bruce. Thanks for the updates France. Stay safe down there. We'll talk to you next week. Okay Ricky thank you all right good stuff. I'm rick we'll take a quick break. 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Twenty twenty by clifford apparent blame for Kovac nineteen continues to bounce one way and then another CNN. Reporting Intelligence. Shared among five is nations indicates. It's highly unlikely that the corona virus outbreak was spreaded result of an accident in a laboratory but rather originated in Chinese market. That's according to to Western officials who cited an intelligence assessment that appears to contradict claims by both president trump at secretary of state. Mike Pompeo quoting Western diplomatic official. We think it's highly unlikely it was an accident. It is highly likely it was naturally occurring and the human infection was from natural human animal interaction. Cnn Adds that the countries in the five is intelligence sharing coalition or coalescing around the assessment meantime the US has yet to make a formal assessment public. A new analysis of the death count from Unknown Causes Indicates Cove in nineteen death. Numbers may be incomplete. Which has implications for the process of reopening states like Ohio recent? Cdc Data Indicates Ohio overall death rates are flat not so in New York which is seen them double so far this year policy analyst. Lauren Anthony with the Center for Community Solutions Warns At assessment may be overly rosy because the buckeyes state is lagging behind on reporting. It's data likely looking like Ron Trend. Because the data isn't accurate. And so what's going to happen? Is once the data catches up. We're GONNA see these numbers. Change the data show a fold spike in the number of deaths from unknown cases in Ohio. For the past four months at the says it could indicate clinics did know what hit them at first as testing ramps up in the coming weeks. The state will be better able to determine the true cove in nineteen mortality rate native Americans facing a series of barriers to voting in Montana's upcoming primary election. Eric Take it off. Explains due to Kubin. Nineteen all Montana. Counties are providing vote by mail. Option Marcy McLean Voice says this presents the first challenge for native Americans on reservations the overwhelming majority of whom have their mail delivered to a post office. Box because of the virus McLean says. There are health risks with giving folks rides to ballot drop offs or their post office. Which can be miles away. Lastly the new ballot Interference Protection Act will prevent groups such as Western native voice from delivering more than six ballots at a time curtailing common practice of valid collection in native American communities the Bell Appearance Protection Act and covert and vote by mail. It's a triple whammy on our and the right and access to vote McLean says. Her group picked up more than eight hundred ballots in the two thousand. Eighteen election. Ballots will be mailed on Friday June. Second Primary. This is PMS. The LGBTQ community faces special challenges during the cove in nineteen crisis. These challenges are the focus of a series of virtual town hall to start tomorrow night. The events will be a forum for the LGBTQ plus people to bring up the issues. They've been facing and brainstorm about solutions. Nicole Crystal President of the group still bisexual is a CO leader of the out for Mental Health Task Force in Los Angeles. She says the stay at home. Lockdowns are especially tough on. Lgbtq plus teens you know we have a lot of algebra teacher youth that are duck every day now at home with families that don't accept their sexuality or that they are closeted to that can create a lot of trauma and a lot of anxiety. I'm Suzanne Potter for Mental Health. Task Force includes multiple groups including health access California Equality California and the California Lgbtq Health and Human Services Network in nineteen spending like wildfire among poultry workers president. Donald Trump has an executive order giving agriculture secretary. Sonny Perdue Greater Authority to handle the response to the global pandemic. Arkansas is home to several large chicken suppliers employing thousands of people including Tyson foods senior staff attorney at the Southern Poverty Law Center. Sarah rate says the order does not force plans to stay open nor does it require close plants to reopen. When it does did you is it. Sends a very strong signal. Administration has the back of the companies and will support the companies and everything that it can to prioritize the supply chain over the people who actually make supply Chambrun according to the latest data from the CDC nearly five thousand cases of Cova nineteen have been confirmed about workers in one hundred fifteen meat and poultry processing facilities across the country. Finally Mark. Richardson tells US Arizona. Consumer groups want regulated power companies to use cost savings from lower power demand during the pandemic to provide emergency aid to repairs. 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Jeff Fahey who's nice enough to join us on the line right now. Jeff what what is it about this role that drew you to it? Because I know you're in a place where you know you can say no to projects. So what was this one that you said yes. I'm going to do this. Well thanks for having me on me. I appreciate it And the the reason for this well first of all the producer Rick Doug. Dale is an old friend and He introduced me to Daniel. Alfredsson director When they were working on other project but he told me about The the The trilogy that they were putting together Based on the the three novellas I thought I found it fascinating for number of reasons. First of all that it would be it would be shot in Europe and have a european-style approach to these to these films but also the fact that they were doing three films role. I'm giving you the attraction for me. aside from character and and the story mine. I I've always found it fascinating to to work with international groups Which this in particular. What rigged up pulled off on this. You know and I'm sure others have talked about it but you know they shot these three films back to back all films trilogy. And I think there's something like ninety six speaking roles from four different countries and a cruel of over three hundred from eight countries and you know they film in four different countries Slovenia wages Soviet in Belgium. So that alone. I've found fascinating because I'd be working with people of all different styles and approaches from the actors to the crew of some top director. And then there then the story itself I was attracted to the to the intrigue of the The style in the filmmaking. As I said I think this I kind of look at this as an intelligent Stylized thriller and So that's that's a number of the The many attractions I had to this. Yeah no doubt. It's got that kind of Eerie Scandinavian of Continental. You'll yeah I got to looking into your background. It's pretty fascinating when I think about your household and upstate New York and Fort. Fourteen kids and your family and at one point you you just took off. And then you up in a kibbutz in Israel where you usually don't think about Irish Catholic kid at a at a Kabul. What was it that? That's wanderlust that you had. I think rick it's the same thing as years later how I ended up in the industry I left it in early age and hitch a cross Canada from buffalo across Aghanistan up until To Alaska to go and find work on the pipeline back in the early seventies and then one thing led to another. I just traveled the world. And I think it's that same adventure that Brought me into the industry into theater and film and dance and so on and I still have that I hope to feel that I still have to have that. Approach that that energy and excitement of going into each one of these projects and I'm still on it right. I mean I'm sixty seven but I feel like I'm going on twenty seven th and ready for the next adventure no doubt about it and I know you also spent some time but what was it Oh Six oh seven and Afghanistan and you were trying to help out with the schools there and helping orphans and in cobble is it sort of your citizen of the world view that you kind of have of yourself and then of course the the opportunity to give back that driving you rick that all these places that I gone. Pass through on the hippie trail if you will back when I was a hippie and travelling the world And working odd jobs different places and then going back to these places later and seeing them when they were they became a war zone or a conflict area and then a post commentary It it's just a I. It's still new. A lot of people in these different places and watch them go to go through their changes and I got more involved with each area in which I still am in the Middle East and still involved with Afghanistan song. If you don't mind rick I actually would like to take this opportunity to give the. Us military shout out because Over these years and all these places have Ghanistan and in the Middle East and I couldn't have done anything that I did as as helping build these orphanages and And working with Dave Logan Ization without the military and and the US military international not very nice but in particular the US military so I just wanted to shout out there which I didn't realize I mean I didn't think that until you just reminded me of it but Those cats have done some great stuff all over the world in a big way and humanitarian very. Well said you know. I'm always wondering about a person like you and your career you've done so many movies and so much TV Do you ever change channel some night just sitting back on your couch and you see yourself and you say I don't know maybe about like no recollection. But you're like I forgot. I did that will actually quite a bit. I mean I I hope it doesn't sound arrogant or Unappreciative but I've been very fortunate to work nonstop for years. And you do sometimes forget about something or you. It remind you of of a time you had and different people that You you worked with a lot of Have passed away over the years and Do you think of the Great Times but yeah I do an answer your question. I do pass through the channel sometimes in Reminded of something Yeah but also it's what's fascinating is I've been able to get back to feed or over these last ten years and So I'm going to jump into that myself if you don't mind but I'm looking forward to getting back to London to the West End and Because a lot of the actors I worked with on on this film We'll all of them are from and the good to can him again. You think about Phoebe Fox whose talented and beautiful and is there a better name for an actress than Phoebe Fox where you could be a painter singer? An actress Yeah no that's great name was wonderful. Wonderful cast of people so talented. You and so generous. In in the way they all worked well. I want to remind everybody that intrigue. Oh some Aria. It is available today. It's premiering on demand and digital. This is of course from the author we said on Nassar. The the director of the girl who played with fire. It's great stuff. You Got Andrew Buchanan. Of course you know him from broad church Phoebe Fox aforementioned in our guest thank goodness in Americans in there the British or taking over the world. Jeff Fahey congratulations. Congratulations on the movie. And hopefully let's get down the road man. Oh great thanks. We're in One last shot up go bills. Buffalo bills very is alright shout towards the buffalo bills. They are a playoff team. I'm rick it'll come on back sports byline Hey travelers do you want to save money on your next flight? Then pick up the phone and call. That's right call because the best prices are not online. They're with smartfares. 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Sounds Laura's bigler down I wish you would try and slap Rick Kittles Mama's face he would clown you thank you for that and welcome back to the show the with you out in California but around the world on American Forces Radio Network. It's our pleasure to welcome to the show. Screenwriter Caitlin Moran Her new movie how to build a girl from. Ifc films is going to be available on May eighth and She Not only was the screenwriter. This is based on your own novel to Catlin. Welcome to the show. And what's that like to take a novel and then turn that into screenwriting? Because I know those are two completely different disciplines aren't they? Yeah and I you know I gave package at all. I didn't even these so class Being I think confused me and then you like that crime anytime And then I remembered that it was just on based on my life Which meant I was and parents ended ends with meeting me so After the initial today's crying managed to pull myself together in content that script that British bulldog spirit mustn't grumble right absolutely. I was fueled by team cigarettes throughout the Nice thing. Two weeks that complaining well the the main character is played by Beanie Feldstein which is a departure because it seems like all American actress roles are played by British actress interesting. That you have an American come in. And she's great. She's very talented. But I just think about the black country dialect like you could say. Will she tell? She's from Walsall Sandwell Dudley. Was that something you had to get down just right. Oh absolutely I mean th the beginning very very keen to get projector dream was to find. I'm disturbed talent and this massive break because if you're big Teenage all you probably haven't been given a major role because tend not to be many films about about that teenage working go But the thing is I've I've been he that when we get a role even British actors find the Midland's accent really difficult and it's a tricky one to do. It's not one that usually sort of in the in the toolbox of talents So it would have been difficult for anybody and beanie students. And it's the point where she moves to the Midland's for two weeks and the lived in a flat and went on a budget And that's the kind of dedication that actually I think projections would have shunned mainly because they know what will grant like whereas beanie was less a Brennan the innocence and students self intimate with that. She was influenced so for you. How often did you get out to molly new? And DID YOU HAVE STEVE. Bould posters up on your wall. I'm GonNa go just spoke a you know. What about the world I am a woman and an overweight woman so everything to do with sports terrifies me and whenever the wolves are playing at home we would not to meet the hands because there would be dozens and dozens of people walking around in Bartenders. T-shirts shocking stabile. Stevie bowl and we see it then people So the and move the plane. We'd stay at home thirty good now. It's interesting to you. Think about how kids today in England and they want to go to uni or not it used to be oh an a levels and now it's all about what is the big transformation with that. I'm educated so that was the one thing we didn't bother putting in the film because My speaking would find the too complex but my parents decided they might not. You thought that they were gonNA take them all my siblings in school that teaches a home. the made a big difference Enrich education news is that it used to be taken free. I'm thinking university pudgy. And a nine you have to pay for it which was kind of Rustling the cost here no end. Because in the middle class and rich people can afford to university But Yeah I have no idea about exams when my my children recently started having to Gps's a-levels and they'd come and go. Can you help me on? I like I really. Can't I have no student things? They teach have changed the way the mets lifetime. My only to you is simply learn to do English very well. And then when it comes to mathematics you'll be rich enough to hire accountants. And Max. You very good. We are speaking by the way with Caitlin Moran how to build a girl from IFC films available on May Eighth. So let's talk about. You know this is your life your novel your screenplay and they say the main protagonist is you what what does the story entail a little bit more deeply interested tonight. The film is so second. That based on the ninth until I became the H Sixteen. I was working for the the crash just over at called and I joined the paper. I was a child and join the paper that we stopped by much older than you were very cool and when I joined the paper I was just fan. I just love music. I'll just sent it citing. I couldn't believe that people were not allowed and thinking about their feelings and looks at cool and so when I joined the paper like anything and it was gradually sort of made clear to me by these older men. That was not the way that he was supposed to and think about music. You're supposed to be cynical especially destroy many bands possible And that was. Your job is to be cynical and weighs he's suspicious events like they might be trying to do something with it. You should put like keep them in check and it took me a long time to realize. But that's not what I'm Mike. That's not how people listen to that. Isn't you should write about music. So the most beautiful thing you can give you the world rather than something done and destroy. It is two point two something he loved and got. That's pretty tell you about stuff and so that was Virginia. I went through as a as a teenager writer. I'm the reason that we started justed excited to Mexico now because now every teenager has a platform where they can write about things but and social media. And we'll go to we get through executive spending we go and such media first time and we can just things and get. Here's my back system. A picture of my talk and and older cooler more cynical people have gotta be smells yet unit tacky and graduate you'll probably public it becomes awkward most cynical and snarky yourself and got around to talking things being horrible about them. An Indian team has to learn that. That's not a great way to communicate and it doesn't make social media great place and if someone attacked he really huts you and you have to. Have you know the strength of character to go? No I'M GONNA be an optimist. I'm going to be joyful. I'm going to write about things like and I'm to try new stuff I hate and that's why I was so excited to assume because the story that I went through which was starting to guy soon nineteenth nineteen to publicly. Teach us to be a nicer person. Everybody does that mean very interesting. And I think about music in England and and they for a small country have contributed so much you think about the the rock bands and the seventies and Then punk in the late seventies early eighties and of course the the British second invasion after the Beatles in the eighties with the the new wave. And then you get into the nineties. I mean it's just. It's such a rich rich history that you high and What were some of your favorites when you were writing about them. Did WE LOSE? Hello all right. I think we lost catling Catlin. Are you still there? But I'm back. Oh you're back just one final question for just think what the rich fantastic history of British music from the Beatles to punk to to new wave. What were some of the things that really spoke to you and that you wrote about? Oh God huge radiohead find radio on They moved me impulsively I always love side. Bands and a Boise subsumes entry. Just a couple of times these these side that And He'd be like a torch poet who's actually when people I've ever met Courtney love with messy my mind. I wouldn't spend twenty four and Seattle a couple of weeks before like he's about to die and we spent told that when the time and she gate crashed. Polity did you got into a fight with a man and the end of it she was like you should come over. Meat cuts like Kinda. You'd be fun beach meat. Cook and I was on T. tied on T- jetlagged. That'd be playing point. Cook that in the future and obviously a couple of weeks later he. He's got another big lesson. Then which is whenever you get off if you want to be cooked. I always say yes. Never do they just took only say yes immediately. Well if it means anything to you. My My go-to Karaoke song is a creep. That's that's my ultimate Speaking of radiohead. Wow can you do the full taking you go that high? Oh yes she's done. Oh Yeah don't make me go. They're going to carry the me. My go-to is weathering heights by Kate Bush and usually by keeping the pay me cash money to stop. I'm thinking the next thing that sometimes they thanksgiving trump's new arm game wrong though she is Caitlin Moran the movie how to build a girl starring the highly talented and Hilarious Beanie Feldstein. It is available through. Ifc films in just a couple of days on May eighth and we have been speaking with cotton the pride of the black country and the pride of Molino Goes Steve Bull. Then Caitlin Moran congratulations on your project. And let's catch up on your next one shelley nice and thanks Take care of yourself. 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Make this free call right now to learn more eight hundred four zero three five nine one to eight hundred four zero three five nine one to eight hundred four zero three five nine one two. That's eight hundred four three fifty nine twelve. What kind of music do you usually have here? Oh we got all kinds. We got country and Western Rick tittle eight two hundred chicken wings at Momma's house last night now. Back to fat boy. I'll that is so messed up stuff. I'll tell you what that's the kind of thing that really cooks smug. Whenever that means we'll bring in. We got him. Welcome back to sports byline a USA coast to coast Boorda border and around the world on American Forces Radio Network. It's our pleasure to welcome win stocks. He's the CEO of Collegiate Star League. Csl and wgn which is world network and those are both organizations which are trying to create spaces for amateur sports players to compete. We'll get more into that but women huge news. You guys have partnered with talk. That's gotTa be thinking about how fast that APP is exploding. That's gotta be a huge breakthrough. Congratulations it's been a great partnership. They had seen the the opportunity to take their platform and engage with a whole new. You know you know their their audience is really millennial and Gen Z. And and But it's like can look at The content that's been posted Really there's not much in the way of gaming or sports in and around yet they a appreciate realize Sports and gaming enthusiasts players fans are amongst the most engaged in the on the planet and really It's not only around competitive Aspects of of what we do with collegiate sports. But it's also a contest for posting short-form videos around Sports play around Around Gaming Finding you meant to be fun and entertaining and light As as are the other The other content that they that they generate so so really cool. And you're right. You know the time. I got that platform exploding. I think I just read two billion downloads in the last Thirty days so It really is an amazing Platform and we're to be part of the part of the aroma. Yeah and part of their realm will be the first ever Tick Tock Cup Sixty K. Prize pool around four sports games. How is this competition? GonNa take place. we start the registration's going on right now We start The actual Tournaments start this weekend. We kick everything off on. May Nine and they'll play off to To champion and each each one there will not be live events that In which these combinations will be all online programming. Obviously with the with the Kobe and and every just about every single live event being cancelled or postponed. we're following suit job but it's it'd be really cool Our reputations are going through the roof and got to cut off a couple already But but it's It's it's a great job. Great set of competitions. The the other thing that tick tock is doing for us is the the The players teams that ended up winning in being in the in the combination They'll get scholarships you'll get money to support their at their educational expenses As a result of of doing well in in our tournament not just and not just in our tournament but also the the short-form post video postcomm contest. I've mentioned There is prising associated with that As well so so pretty pretty cool Endeavor and really get great great insight On behalf of Tick Tock to To to attach the what we're doing leisurely mentioned collegiately the Star League something else that you run Has It's just growing and growing at universities around North America trying to create these treatments for College Students. And whether it's legal engines Counter Strike Global Offensive Super Smash Brothers. What HAVE YOU I think the sports realm is fantastic. Not just because of a video games but let's face it you know you're not six to two hundred pounds. You're not going to be on the football team. So this gives the opportunity for a lot of people who are highly skilled and video games to still compete. Represent their universities. That's Louis you know the other great thing when and this is we just announced this this morning. I'm not sure if you've got This release or not but we we have every year our grand files essentially the collegiate Final Four for all the different leagues we have. We have a variety of different fourteen differently. Solve the course of a year that we operate Every one of those leagues has two divisions an elite division we call the Star Division and had a more open Division copy open invasion but event. It's meant to be more. Infamy are more social more casual and our elites team Teams compete in our GRANDPA's. We just we had to go on. Pause because of everything related to cope we were due to have a live event in Las Vegas at the at the very cool hyper x arena But that obviously also went on on pause. We had to wait until the dust settled because kids aren't on campus. They can't get to the rigs they can't get to their their normal Gaming machines and we were worried about competitive integrity but we worked all that out just announced today that we're going to host now the grand finals but do it all online The dates are now May Thirtieth and thirty. First where where? The teams are competing for. Two hundred and fifteen. Thousand Dollars in scholarships Thanks to sponsors like hyper wrecks and game stop and If us Twitches of big partner are as a content brand called checkpoint. Xp On campus which is part of the Beasley Sports Empire All supporting us and and bringing Not only not only money and funding to help the students defray their their cost duty scholarships but also Promotion supports Putting putting the best players putting team in the teams in the limelight as they look to to to build their personas outside of collegiate and and potentially even on appropriate. So so we're It's a really fun space for us. We've we've got a big hand in building. East sports In the US. And we're looking for you know partners like pick. Talk that to to broaden the exposure to broaden the awareness of of Cleveland East sports and the importance of clearly sports in the overall ecosystem of Of of these sports couple more questions for WHAM stocks with collegiate startling world gaming network and you think about wgn and how you partner with a lot of high profile companies we've seen professional sports in NBA and NFL owners. Buying into some of these teams. I know your big with some. Nhl teams like the the blackhawks the leaves and the flames. Is it the kind of thing to where people see someone who's smart with their money invest and then realize I better get in on this? I mean it's just rising exponentially isn't it the the great thing about these pro teams and you know it in this time as everybody's saying they they don't have anything they have no broadcasts they don't have live events though stadiums are sitting empty and and they turn to us and the praise that's being used as replacement programming that that we offer their fans an opportunity to not only to watch events around say the NHL game or or Madden Oregon to game but actually compete in them and and are the work you mentioned with the Blackhawks and and maple leafs have been Big Partner of ours As as have the Canadians and the and the plane the Winnipeg jets we build Through our online tournaments platform we build fan engagement events That Amalgam Amalgam is not only our base of players when this in this particular case the NHL Video game players but then bring their fans in as well Maple leafs done a remarkable job. Last three years bringing their fans To our event and I mean when I need not I mean it virtually But then the last the last three years. Every one of these has culminated and big live event in in Scotiabank arena where which is a maple leafs home venue. So it's a great This is not not only just fan being able to sit back and watch their favorite players. you know compete on on the ice either in a real way virtual way but now they're party experience they're part of Being involved in a competitive event. So so we've and we've done that with NBA with NBA teams with Ma- major league soccer teams with with Major League Baseball Teams As well as a number of NFL team. So it's a it's a it's a great dynamic and in this time while there's so much devastation or around the world This competitive video gaming now is center. It is. It's not just these sports. It's real sports and and that is a that is a A dynamic out that's here and it won't it will not be I now. J. This is the. Genie is not going back into the bottle to. It's a great time for Competitive Video Gaming As as an building the awareness around not not just in the US but on a global basis and then finally you know someone's listening and they say look you know I I like plan. I like playing with my friends. I'm not good enough to go professional and fact I kinda stink. I wish I could just do this. As an amateur and you guys are there for them as well right. That's correct we We are the one thing about sports is. You're seeing it develop a it. It got top heavy pretty quickly as elite. Teams Leagues Watch me Call Duty League. Legal engines the franchise model Nba Two K. Now the new Flashpoint League which is competitive Counterstrike in a League format It's it's very it's very it's a it's a great thing is it's a very aspirational layer. Everybody who's clued into each and seeing it now but but it but it also clarifies so much about what's missing sports and that's a true path to the pros true funnel through developmental ladder that enables players. They want their aspiring to get better. You know how. How do they do it thus far? If you look at the the many pros that exist one has has the same story. Everybody a clawed their way to the pros give him just a ton of credit when there was no structure do it on their own but but we believe that the more structured there is just as with traditional sports The more organization there is more structure. There is the bigger the panel of the more people will our understanding. Exactly what it's going to take to get complaint to point the this notion of about if you think about traditional sport you've seen this this pyramid it's the top one percent that are the pro players they take an NBA. It's the top one percents Or basketball take the one percent there. Nba players the bottom ninety nine percent of the aspiring Pro players that's ninety. Nine percent is who we address our programming to our events the content that we create Helping them get Get find away way and again if they're if they're aspiring to be better We help them get better through. Not only sure. We'll get gaming Events in and Tournaments but also on clear. Decide if you're in college path Can help you in in a very similar way. Stocks Collegiate Star League World Gaming Network Ceo Remember the Tick Tock Cup and also the grand finals coming to the CSL. The University tournaments the finals may thirtieth and thirty first. Congratulations on everything. Let's let's talk again down the road man and stay safe and we'll see you then. I look forward to a wreck. Thanks for having me on. And one way to say safe is to keep gaming there. It is keep gaming twenty four seven. I agree with you. I'm retired. We'll take a quick break and we'll come on back on sports byline. 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Pete was too smart to deal with expos equipment manager John Silverman so Bryan Greenberg. Who worked in the visitor's clubhouse did it he took me into a room a door to the left and underneath tarps. There was this machine. This guy was saying rose of Cork his bats for twenty years. The Guy said nobody checks on him because he's a singles hitter so then they went out to this Greenberg guy and he said I can't really answer those questions. I can't really talk about it Pete. Rose can't win even in a global pandemic. You're going to have some schmuck say. Oh Yeah One thousand nine hundred. Four was corking bats. Maybe he did. Can we leave? Pete rose alone. I don't know I'm rectal. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you tomorrow at nine. Am Pack Time. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network line at Hartland. Newsfeed DOT COM. 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We've got raw from last night to talk about money. The bank is coming up on Sunday. Yes last night's raw wasn't the go home show for money in the Bank as David. I struggled to try to remember who is in the women's money in the bank. Eventually figured it out. Thanks to the magic of wikipedia. We could talk about all of that here today on the show guest coming up today so it will be your opportunity to join us and talk about whatever is on your mind the phone number one eight hundred eight seven eight play one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five. Two nine. Is the vote number text messages? Forty five seven. Eight zero seven five six. I am Brian at Wrestling Observer. Dot Com at Bryan Alvarez on twitter. Of course you can listen to us every day on. Sports byline. Usa. You can watch us live in free everyday. Twitch DOT TV slash video links to both of these are on the front page of wrestling observer DOT COM. We've also got news on some postponements. 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I am hoping that it will be up and running here very very soon. I see the lights going on actually right now so we may be close to being back live onto which again but in the meantime. I just barrel on this show. Of course you should know anyway. If you can't see the video you can always listen to us on sports byline to the link on the front page at Wrestling Observer. Dot Com. So that's something for the future there but anyway the news here for today the post money in the bank episode of Rob. And of course. It'd be next Monday. We have got edge rain your and Becky Lynch appearing next week they actually said the return of Becky Lynch. I could've sworn she was on the show like a week ago. Maybe I was wrong for some reason. Like if you if you miss a week of raw you it will be advertising. Where returning on the next show. I'm not quite sure why. Edge inaudible be there and apparently they are still feuding. Even though the last man standing match occurred at Wrestlemainia and seemed rather decisive. But I guess they're going to. They're going to keep working with each other so they're going to be on the show this coming. Friday Sonia Deville Mandy rose that is not a pay-per-view match after all of that build. They're doing the match for free on smackdown so you can look forward to that. And I don't even know why because if you look at the lineup for money in the bank I mean we got to money in the bank matches and both of those are going to be simultaneous. They're running at the same time. So even if that thing goes in our you've still got two and a half hours of pay per view time left based on how they pay per view and there's only four matches right now so why that match has not been added to the pay per view. Why that's being given away for free on smackdown. My presumption is it's because the rating sucks but as we've learned. I can't even tell you how many times like if you don't announce a match on national television a week in advance then. It doesn't really matter all that much. They didn't so like if you're following social media I guess if you're watching raw I guess that's an announcement but the smackdown viewers don't watch raw. They know nothing about this so I don't know what's going on but that's the story of this show on an average day. Mike what's happening? Not a whole lot. Is Everything getting settled over there? And I I don't know what's going on. I'm trying to run a show here. I can't do ten things at once. Only five you do Alvin. Jobs are thank you. I appreciate that so we've also got and this is very interesting and it'll be more interesting tomorrow when the rain comes in or later today. Unfortunately we'll talk about it tomorrow because we don't get until literally second show goes off the air but we got smackdown doing record lows on Fox. We got raw doing the lowest in twenty five years on Monday like these. These raw smackdown ratings are collapsing. At least at least Awa Annex t they appear to have like they appear to have bottomed out I mean. We're we're I think we're we're going to remain for those two shows and I actually think they'll be up this week because they got too. Big Show's coming. But Ron smackdown are just. They're sinking like a stone and at the same time. This is brought to my attention yesterday. Look at how many specials they're getting on. Espn and Fox this coming weekend. Fox At eight PM WILL BE AIRING WBZ. Greatest Ladder matches. Saturday may ninth matches with the Rock. Giana Sina the undertaker Steve Austin Edge. Listener. I gotTA sneeze good. Bless you is allergies are killing me leshner Randy or Roman reigns Charlotte Flare Becky Lynch and many more will be hosted by Michael Cole and Corey Graves. We've had we've had like wrestlemainia airing on. Espn we've had this show and despite ESPN and Fox airing so much w programming during this pandemic like the ratings are still at all time lows. That's Kinda distressing. Think about it. Why is this not helping? Why would it help when whenever they ever aired anything on network? Tv and actually headed help to be honest with you. I mean the big event you know what I mean. When when do you go back into his wrestling? Made an impact. It never. Has You know so. I'm not really surprised that the ratings are what they are. I don't know whenever I should actually has anything to do with the other. I mean even in the best of times smackdown with a microscope and a big target on it. Because wrestling doesn't do good ratings on network. Tv They can fulfil demographic but their overall ratings are never good and the demographics attached to those ratings for advertisers are never good so. I'm not surprised with this at all. I'm also not surprised that they are providing programming for these places that don't have any and they can put every- networks special on Fox that they want right now. The product is cold and even if it was at its best it would still have its issues on network. Tv So when times are bad it just makes it even worse than. I'm not surprised at all. You know the the tail wags the dog when it comes to to wrestling on TV the interest level just. Isn't there right now. So just putting it on network. Tv because it's Network TV isn't going to be something that helps it out at all. Well we're all back up and running now on twitch and there was barely a connection issue at the beginning of this show so all is well. I was actually very very worried. If rob had been the producer it would have been like. We have no video. No lights but jared never makes a mistake so think things weren't working at noon. I thought I thought somebody died but apparently everything is alright. So that's very very good to know by the way I read the lineup for that Wwe's greatest ladder matches. And I wanna read it one more time because I got two point to this year Fox Height that the Rock John. Cena the detailer Stevenson Edge. Rock LISTENER RAINY EARN. Roman reigns Charlotte flair and Becky Lynch will be featured on this special. They said Roman rain they said the name Roman reigns which of course is very interesting because I was bombarded with feedback last night about how. Wwe has essentially written. Roman reigns out of out of history. Marcus here I'm not a big Roman reigns fan but W we trying to raise him from their history is completely ridiculous. The Guy has leukemia. He has the right to not wrestle during the pandemic and put his immunity at risk spurs person. Here it's funny. How both debit me? Nay wwltv told their talent that they are not forced to work during the pandemic but one company is sticking to their word and the other is being petty with the company's top guy. The Roman reigns situation exposes. Wwe furthermore of how terrible workplace. It really is Brian. Timothy says why is WWE SO petty? Vince is basically mad at a guy for thinking about the health of himself and his family. Yup that's what happened ends new fans. Apparently that they would Both can't believe they would do something like this. And they literally are editing video packages to change history to make you think that like it was like Seth Rollins Seth rollins pinned Roman reigns at that one Wrestlemainia we cashed in and they changed the video to make it look like he had beaten brock listener and that was last night during the money in the bank for those who may have fast forwarded through those things the money in the bank moment that they put on before. The main of with drew McIntyre Murphy. The money the bank moment that they decided to show from Wrestlemainia. Two Thousand Fifteen shows that seth rollins is sliding the rang delivering. A curb stopped brock listener. And then from there. The you would figure that seth rounds had pin brock lesser. No of course pinned Roman reigns. That was one of the big deals about that wrestlemanias so he pins Roman but when he curb Tom's brock the screen goes blank. And you hear a three count there dude to be fair when somebody's hurt when they want you to forget about somebody they bury them and they will not mention them and they become a ghost but in most cases. That person is injured physically. It's not a situation like we have with the Roman reigns but no there's a difference here so if they want you to forget about somebody find. Just don't show the footage. They don't mention their name or whatever they are re writing history to avoid showing. Roman reigns on television. Do you realize someone? This sounds absolutely horrible. But it's true the last guy. They rewrote the last guy. They wrote history killed. His family. Roman reigns is trying to protect his family and they are writing him out of W E history. It's it's mind blowing at appalling back in a moment of his life. Imagine this is your money and someone wants to take it from you. Who Is it the IRS? They want your money and guess what they can legally take all of it if they want. Remember they sent you that letter that said hey always a bunch of cash and we're going to take it from you. So what do you do fight back? By letting our team of experts at tax helpline work it out with the IRS. So you can keep your money and we're good at what we do. When you hire us you'll get a team of guys on your side. It not the laws and we'll fight to save your money so if you owe the irs Tana cash and you WANNA keep it call right now and learn for free how we can help you. Put it back in your pocket. 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Money goes to buying trees and doing habitat restoration restoring green spaces taken out invasive blackberries and such and restoring salmon streams etc. It all goes to work outside. Tools trees etcetera. So the link is up on my twitter at Bryan Alvarez. We appreciate anything that you can donate. My wife runs a nonprofit and today on twitch all Cheer Money Anything. We make on cheers. I will donate one hundred percent of that to wail scout today. So in fact I'll donate double that amount today to whale scout so whatever whatever you can spare in cheers. We really appreciate it. I believe that I deserve more than I've got already just because I buried rob but that's another that's another story entirely. Somebody in this chat needs to tell me how cheers work. I don't even know. I just know that they work somehow. Now you rob out there. What's rob doing instead of paying attention to us on the Chad? He's pimping his show where he's going to eat hot food with Tony. Have you seen this hematoma are gonNA eat food together on his show? Hot food kind of shows like a video show with audio shell. Rob sent me this information. I need to know more Patriot or something like this. I need in L. Plug it because Tony's involved we'll see that one figure you know makes you got the right address for that guy. Vince McMahon is his sociopathic person. Says that is all that's from l? Well that's true. Probably Person says according to me. The Shield. Only had seth it. That's a hell of a group. Look let's there's somebody in the forum or chat that is like well. They never raise. Somebody Mystery Look I. I'm not going to say that. This is not a special occasion here but as soon as they felt as though they lost control of rock or as soon as they did lose control of rock instantly they made randy or in the youngest champion of all time as soon as they fall out with somebody was who was at. Aj Lee or whatever it was where they had to take the the longest title reign off of her and all this stuff they do spiteful stuff like this all the time and would somebody is hurt. They are masters at making that person. Disappear they will strategic. You're you're absolutely right. But I mean Dina. Rose went to the other company. This guy went home so his family would be saving into south. That's exactly that's exactly right and they. The perception is when they do this advocating right now with the situation as sensitive as it is with the situation that he's in. Yeah I mean this is obviously going to be pointed out to people so they we'll see what happens subsequent ones but if this is a continued regular thing I probably somebody may WANNA start asking questions. Just because it's again the circumstances behind him not being there seemed to be rather noble on the surface. So if there's an issue with him over him making this decision and they're going to take it out on him professionally. I would say that would be a reason for a to to cause an alarm. Bill I would figure says to think Vince. Push Roman is the guy for five years. They fed him everyone everyone and now he just does not exist scares me? Hey if you haven't if you haven't seen it yet watch vincent the NF then a couple of weeks ago then you'll really be scared. I'm not kidding dude. I I know I if you watch that and then you see this and it's like do this guys running this company into the ground I might add. But he's running. This company Roman reigns has leukemia. Everybody you know listen. Vince has never said anything. Publicly ABOUT CORONA VIRUS. Because they won't say the word on television and Kevin Dunn and all the top brass and I shouldn't even say anything but like the fact that they the fact that they didn't cancel Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia at one point. If you think I'm exaggerating I'm not the only thing on the planet earth that hasn't been canceled yet and it took them forever to cancel that last smackdown. You remember the story of the last smackdown. I'll tell you very quickly. So they were going to do a smackdown at the little caesars arena in wherever was Michigan or whatever and they started telling all the wrestlers on Wednesday that the show was going to be at the performance center and so the local news reported that the show is not going to be at the Little Caesar Center. It was going to be at the performance center and so we reported because a the wrestlers had been told and be was on the Damn News we reported the show's going to be the performance center on Friday. They went out of their way. To Send out a release stating that in fact it was going to be at the little caesars arena. And no they did not say that. Despite reports of the country the show has not been canceled. The the release literally said it will be at the little caesars arena and then of course the next day they announce. Oh it's not going to be the little caesars arena. It's actually going to be the performance center. They waited till the very last minute kicking and screaming to cancel these shows and then of course once they cancelled the shows. I mean as much as they could. It was just business as usual. We're going on run live every week and no matter how much criticism they were. Just GonNa pretend like none of this. What does that tell you? What does that tell you? What does it tell you when they do that? And then they get mad at Roman reigns because he has leukemia. He has leukemia. He'll be battling it for the rest of his life. Okay what does it tell you when they get mad at him for going on? You know what it tells me it tells me they think this whole thing is bs it tells me they think this whole corona virus is just. It's just the flu. Maybe it's not even as bad as the flu. Vince is out there. He's seventy four seventy five years old. He's running around like a crazy guy at all. These shows not sleeping. I mean what it tells you is. He doesn't take this seriously at all. That's why he's mad at Roman reigns right. I do the math. It's he doesn't like sickness says it is. He doesn't like anything that screws up an infects snow globe and Roman shook up a snow globe by deciding to make the decisions that he has to protect himself in his family. And that's it's a simple as that and you can't. You can't do that Vince. World because germ stone exists there. None of this stuff exists there and I I look. I guess he can handle the idea of not showing up for work because you're afraid of catching a cold. Because I'm sure that's how he is mentally doing this you know that he's not sick. So how can everybody else be falling sick? They must be week. I don't know what's going through Vince. Mine you know not a psychologist there. But you know with how this is squaring up and how he is presenting Roman reigns or the lack there of of presenting. Roman reigns says does say something about a minute person here says. Do you guys replant the blackberry plants? No they're invasive species we pull them out and we put in native plants. Nelson says gotta by Kane Mask. Filthy is probably too late. But my wife's mother SOS and so she made a whole bunch of masks and she says or anything else you guys want patterns or whatever. I suggested a big happy face and next thing. I know they've got one of those. Wbz'S SELLING IN A. Brian Mask slipped to these masks. And can you imagine walking through walk into the store wearing something like that but hey there available right now and I believe. Let me find the thing that they've got here. Believe that all proceeds okay so non-medical. Wbz themed facemasks are now available for preorder. One hundred percent of the net proceeds are being donated to charity. 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So they're doing their cause Doing their part as much as they want to do it when it comes to to helping out groups in this time of need for says. I like the mask idea. That'd be hysterical at a store with the brave face do it. You have children screaming and crying and running from you bud. Hey look if. There's the one thing if this can help anybody. Wwe's main demographic is old people who does not seem to be airing all amass out in public right now old people so if they can reach anybody. They're older demographics so they actually put on a mask. That would actually be nice. Is The guy who ate. Sneezes should be happy for guy staying home to avoid being sick. Well Dude you can be sick as you want. You better not sneeze around him right. Well I guess how likely is it that the Roman history racing is a work? I mean is five percent. Is that even possible to negative percent? I mean come on minus five stars you can do. This percentage the guy. 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Live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper Vivey on the sports byline broadcasting network in the show right Alvarez here wrestling observer live among severe also of wrestling observer dot com. What a what a world we live in a wwe. Twitter re tweeting Roman reigns just now how about that. Well it's a couple of hours ago so apparently tonight on F s one Roman reigns best wrestlemainia matches. How about that? So there you go. Wwe Universe can relive some of nature boy ric flair edge listener and Roman reigns best matches tonight on F S One. They heard you boss. Well I mean. They didn't because before we show but as amazing that after all of the controversy Israel of sudden he's he's everywhere now he's all over F S One. That's nice and is at is lovely. Now that is that's lovely all right if you WANNA give us call here today. One eight hundred eight seven eight play. One eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine text messages for two five seven eight zero seven five six six Brian at wrestling observer. Dot Com at Bryan Alvarez amazing. It is so amazing that today. There's a special on. F S One Roman reigns is going to be all over it and he's being used in the advertising today and they're tweeting about it today man last night they just couldn't put him on that. Russia they've literally had to rewrite history and video package crazy. Crazy is everybody keeps pointing out to you. That was a f s one slash Fox tweet. It was not a wwe tweet so now. Roman reigns Roman reigns. Roman reigns tweeted tonight. Four wrestlemainia main events cutlass memories and they re tweeted. Roman reigns they did. They're nice enough to hit the re tweet button today. They give it a little a little heart next to that to give it a like and also w. e. themselves Forty one minutes ago. Which was in fact during the show added his name to the tweet about the best wrestlemania match tonight on. F. S one. Well there you go now. We can't use any of this for a youtube clip. Here's how can I guess because whatever we want that's true who sets those up by the way who chooses Ryan rose? I talk to Brian. Brian rose chooses all of them. I have I have sometimes. Sometimes I'll say you should put this one out but it's it's rare. You asked me something particularly good over anything not usually go. You know. People are just independently working and just coming up with things and all that yes. Actually I mean this is. This is the easiest workplace on the planet in the sense of averages just does whatever they want for the most part. That's saying I mean they'd like the best way possible we've never had a zoom meeting. Never had some sort of Wacky skype meeting where we all sit down and have a meeting like everyone has a job that they do at everybody does it. And every now and then a problem comes up but for the most part like everybody does what they need to do. And that's it like you treated like you know with anything. We should do. The big audio nightmare. What should we do in essentially was To put this in wrestling terms. You basically just said go get over and that was pretty much about yes. That's the way things should be. Go get over. I don't script anything for the big audio nightmare. Thank God really my God. Besides reading off a script always terrible. Anyway people shouldn't do that. It sounds a natural. It sounds terrible. Don't do that never do that. If you're doing a podcast any of that's uptake. That advice don't just read stuff directly off a piece of paper. It sounds terrible. Monotone awful out some passionate about what you're saying some Inspiration Bible. You're saying be a little bit more like Bryan Alvarez. Just not all the way Bryan Alvarez. Nobody needs the second Bryan Alvarez Spurs near says. I can't wait for tonight's Brian Vinnie. Show with the WRESTLEMANIA x seven special any infamous. Austin. He'll turn people say it's the best wrestlemainia ever so should be lots of yes. Retro Rod Nitro is over but tonight on the Brian Vinnie Show. It is in fact Wrestlemania x seven and. I do believe that the plan is to just continue on. We will cover. Roz invasion leading to the end of WCW at survivor series. Technically WCW isn't really dead until survivor. Series so I think we're in Duvet which may mean we might have to do. A few weeks of doubling up because as a result of the corona virus. It's no longer nineteen years ago this week. And that might confuse people so tonight for sure wrestlemainia seven and we will continue on from there They say you're going up until the consortium I guess I guess was funny. Actually is because of the delay W W died at the end of survivor series. That was really like the big blow off but I guess if we're delayed it's possible that if we just started today we would go until the end of twenty twenty and so the worst year in forever. Wcw would last through this year and then twenty twenty one. We just all start over again. I love that idea But then you had to relive all those years of the late. Wcw Why would you WanNa do that what you want to go through that process of WWF? Own E W slash. Wcw Go through that entire time getting more emails here. People think that this is a a work with Roman reigns. It's not a work and let me explain something to you. Okay this is. This goes for every crazy conspiracy theory in the world and for pro wrestling. The reason people come with these conspiracy. Theories is because it just doesn't make sense to them. The real story doesn't make sense. My Gut tells me her. Just doesn't make sense okay. Just because some doesn't make sense to you and your gut doesn't mean that it can't be true. Okay I realize it's it's mind blowing. The Vince McMahon would right Roman reigns out of history because he has leukaemia and he went home during a pandemic. But you know what this crazy stuff happens all the time like. It's Oxfam's razor. What is more likely that it's a work in. Wwe Or that. Vince is out of his mind. Well quite frankly over the last decade or so Oxfam's razor. The most likely scenario is Vince is out of his mind. So now it's not a work. It doesn't even make any sense. Some sort of work where Roman reigns going to put his life at risk and come back. While he's battling leukemia he's GONNA come back in. The middle of a pandemic doesn't even make any sense ridiculous that makes less sense than what they're actually doing is. Achim have a razor. That's the name of the team that's where they got it. All comes razor a common reservoir like yeah I really. I didn't even put those two together there. Who came up with that for them? Was that Paul owering hollering. Not sure who else would come up with that one? But which one is hurt right now. Is it razor? Remember either way. They're raised from history. See how quickly that'll happen. But they're not changing history so they don't exist not doing video packages of stuff they were in but somehow taken him out of it not yet. Although I'm not I'm not trying to defend WSB BELIEVE ME. I'm not it's just I am not. Nobody should be overly surprised that they're doing this. You can add an extra. Give Him some extra credit points because they're doing this at a time of a pandemic and he's got leukemia but this is not out of character it is not out of style for them. This is one hundred percent how they've always operated. They have never had any care of history. And when you fall on the other side of what they want history to be in that moment because that will change well to they'll make things disappear all the time. So I'm I'm really not that shocked by this again. If you want to give them some extra points for the the lack of you know or theme that their crafts for doing this right now while he has. Leukemia is one thing but this is not a surprise for says he knows the script promos all had the risk is worth the reward in every promo so bad. Yeah that's W E. They brand everything. That's the tagline. The risk is worth the reward. Now this is listen okay. I'm all for the idea that there is a grand prize and wrestling. Okay the AWA title the I W. GP title. I guess the the universal title but the problem is there isn't one price. There's like ten prizes okay but I mean come on like the idea that this is getting the title. You need a briefcase. Which almost but doesn't quite guarantee you the title. This briefcase is more valuable to these men and women than potentially their lives. That's that's the promo like I could fall off the building and die but it's worth it to get this briefcase. What look maybe Ray knows Because he was out there cutting that promo about it being the risky worth the reward. Maybe he heard Alastair Blacks Promo earlier on and he realizes everybody's made of rubber. I guess because Alastair Black decided to say that through by the way when did elster blanket of fog machine and on the soundtrack closet? I had said that. I don't know about the soundtrack but he's had the the dark gloomy for awhile. Well they took the chair away that we had to stand up during allaster black by the way else are black. Did Not say that he would get up. He said you better hope. I don't get up so even her black knew that. If you throw me off this ten story building I could die and not get up as he could be big show now up here for the main event last true. I will say this. Okay I will say this as preposterous as this is okay. I cannot wait for this match last night when Dave said like. I'm not excited for the pay per view. I'm the opposite. I thought. Listen Bro. Okay the rest of this show. I don't care about but how in the world can you not be excited for the money in the bank? The actual money in the bank match. There's going to be twelve wrestlers men and women's starting at the bottom of a ten story building and they got to fight their way and destroy everything and they got to get to the top of the building and then they got to climb a ladder and then they gotta get the briefcase. Okay I know dies because they taped it like two or three weeks ago so I can rest assured that no one's actually gonNA fall off the building on accident. We're not GONNA have an own heart situation ear that that makes me feel better. You know they're gonNA have to have some wacky spot with the men and the women which could even more wacky. Because the men aren't allowed to hit the women women can do high spots on the men so some woman's GonNa do some high spot on some man in an office setting. I mean come on. How can you not look forward to this? Watch would be awful but if it's awful. I'll complain about it afterwards right now. I'm excited and I can't wait to see this match as it stands right now. Then what you're saying. We can get Dana Brooke Otis Interaction. This is possible. Yes so you know what rain? The reindeer and edge suck was two guys going for forty minutes six men and six women fighting throughout an office building up the stairs and ny. Jax I guess could try taking elevators which she said last night like I'm GonNa get in the elevator or something like that. Somebody was going to get an elevator but like you know the Elevator. Like someone's going to get in the elevator. Bits get stuck Daniel Bryan. I mean come on the pine whether he should get in an elevator and he was wondering how this whole thing was going to break down and they're going to be some things breaking down. That's that's for sure. Yeah it's IT'S GONNA BE FASCINATING. Because because she had knee surgery and if she doesn't get in the elevator she has to climb ten stories to get to the top of this thing. Thank God for her sake. There's post production because I don't see her winning a race to get to the top of the steps no offence to her but Yeah so I I. I don't know with post production with all the bells and whistles with them. They're going to do some sort of gimmick fall or something like that. I'm very interested to see how this thing is going to be. Turning outside for those people who are bored by the idea very surprised but oh come on get out of here. I can't wait for this. That's eight look at the rest of the show with what's on there and with the field these shows right didn't even know what's on the rest of the show. I mean how could you not be everything on that show? I'll get you cited for icy okay. So we got here all the women and men that are gonna be fighting at the same time in an office. Building Oscars Shannon. 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Ms Morrison forgotten sons and Lucio's party fatal for the smackdown take titles rounds out the Shell. So that's our lineup for that to in the bank show coming up on Sunday thus far I mean they've they've got to add more. I think unless that money in the bank ladder match is going to be two hours. That's I tell you what I wonder if they give that a lot. More extra time than usual because of I hope not. I hope not hour and a half. Maybe who knows? Maybe we'll see but anyway that's lineup. So check that out as noted tonight the brain of any show wrestlemania x seven. And tomorrow we talking about everything by the way the rating. I'll have that up momentarily. We'll see if they hit a new all-time low and man watching watching that show last night. I would not be surprised if we knew all time low and then tomorrow we'll talk about alliance for Awa and annexed on Wednesday night. And don't forget if you're a subscriber to twitch DOT TV which you can do by the way for free with your Amazon Prime Account details on my twitter at Bryan Alvarez. Vinnie and I will be doing the money in the bank post show alive for subscribers on twitch dot. Tv more details about that coming up later on the week but a lot of fun stuff. Check it out that Sinn. Everybody thinks Mike is always callers and listeners. Everybody Studio we'll talk to you next time. Wrestling Observer live. You're listening to the hot land-use Feed Radio Network at live dot hotline Newsfeed Dot Com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram's going Castrated v. Twenty whitecliffe apparent blame for big nineteen continues to bounce one way and then another CNN reporting. Intelligence shared among five is nations indicates. It's highly unlikely that the corona virus outbreak was spread salt of an accident in a laboratory but rather originated in a Chinese market. That's according to to Western officials who cited an intelligence assessment that appears to contradict claims by both president trump at secretary of state. Mike Pump Pale quoting Western diplomatic official. We think it's highly unlikely it was an accident. It is highly likely it was naturally occurring and the human infection was from natural human animal interaction. Cnn as the country's in the five is intelligence sharing coalition or coalescing around the assessment meantime the US has yet to make a formal assessment public. A new analysis of the death count from Unknown Causes Indicates Cove in nineteen death. Numbers may be incomplete which has implications for the process of reopening states like Ohio recent. 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Government Shutdown Day 17

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09:37 min | 2 years ago

Government Shutdown Day 17

"I. For the next is Iraq where we take just ten minutes to get you smarter on the intersection of tech business and politics sponsored by X Broadway. I'm Denver MAC on today's show. Facebook complains about its media coverage, and what's next for Sears, the first the federal government shutdown? So we're now in day seventeen of this thing with President Trump and congressional Democrats battling over whether or not they'll be funding appropriated for border wall. And that also means we're in day seventeen of hundreds of thousands of government workers going without paychecks trash piling up national parks, all sorts of federal approvals from new food products to initial public offerings not being granted and then pending disruptions for everything from tax refunds to stamps and for context, please. Remember, this is not at all normal. So in history, they've only been nine other times at the federal government shutdown for five days or more. And only one other time in the past twenty years if things don't open by Friday, we tie the record set in one thousand nine hundred five. If it lasts a Saturday. This one would stand in a league of its own and to be honest. There's not much cause for optimism. So President Trump has dug in his heels on the idea of five point six billion dollars for a border wall. And it doesn't seem to matter that the White House hasn't said exactly where it would put this wall or how it even gets to a specific number given that Trump keeps vacillating between the need for a concrete barrier or something made of steel slats or even the vice president Pence reportedly offered Democrats deal for only around two and a half billion. Nope. Trump wants what he wants Democrats. Meanwhile, aren't moving either. Instead, the house plans to offer as Lucians this week that would reopen all government agencies except for homeland security, which is where border protection sits. But there's no indication that Trump would sign such bills and history's any guide. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell won't bring a vote on something. He doesn't think Trump will sign the bottom line is always broken. But this is the difference between a flat tire and a busted. Axle when the auto repair guys out sick. Everyone agrees a fixes needed. But no one has a clue on how to do it in about twenty seconds. We'll go deeper on the shutdown with Xia executive editor, Mike Allen. But first this Tf X Broadway is bringing Times Square into the digital age. The project will be a powerhouse for event activation with a forty six story. Tower wrapped in LED screens, a luxury hotel experiential retail space and time squares only permanent outdoor stage. Learn more about this breathtaking platform at TSN, Broadway dot com. We're joined now by axios executive editor Mike Allen, so Mike you're in Vegas this morning for the conference, which means I assume you flew there were there TSA delays there weren't, but what a conversation about it here. Dan. It's something that's really breaking through in America. I think it was about way story for maybe the first ten days and now day seventeenth in one week really started to kick in and the stuff gets real as they say this Friday yesterday on meet the press, the president's acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, who's doing the job of the president's chief of staff said that if this isn't resolved by choose day that then that's gonna mess up the billing cycle of paychecks. The would go out Friday. So in the next twenty four ish next thirty six hours or or Metalitz throwed in a way that had had not before Friday. President Trump had a press conference, and he expressed optimism. There was going to be negotiations over the week. End. And maybe something would come of it, it appears that nothing came of those meetings. So is there any real reason for optimism right now that the government will reopen not only after Tuesday, but really anytime in the foreseeable future. We've known each other for a long time. I think that you know that I'm always up mystic. Not this time. There is at most one person in America. He's close to being solved. Maybe the president recently someone inside the White House told me that the president really believes he's winning. But Dan, I bet it doesn't look that way to you. It doesn't look like anyone's winning to be honest at this point the Democrats in theory. The house is gonna vote this week to reopen all agencies outside of homeland security from your perspective will Mitch McConnell bring that to the floor and bring that to a vote on his side to make Trump veto it or is he just going to ignore it altogether. Are right now that that will not happen. What does he had over the Christmas break when he stayed in the White House, what have gone to the capital of the rotunda? When the. Other congressional leaders were up -cation and said, I'm here. What's the Goshi eight? Let's make a deal. I mistake here by people inside wished that he had done something like that might have given him some leverage, it feels very much the Trump shutdown President Trump in that Oval Office meeting. He said two liter Schumer now speaker Pelosi said, I don't know hold my breath, and I'm gonna turn blue and they said, okay. And that's kind of where we are. You wrote over the weekend that from your perspective, the one thing that could change not just the narrative could actually potentially change the White House and Trump position on this is more and more and more stories when people do start losing paychecks and the paycheck really doesn't start to come in. And people start missing their rent potentially being victim and up, you know, in food blinds and stuff like that. That could be the thing that changes it is that you're feeling that. That's really the only thing that could break this impasse, which would basically make Trump back down Republican sources think that this pain is going to excavate quickly, especially if we get into a situation where we're in a payroll psycho. Where people are actually not going to be paid right now. People are on paper working not for money or at home be for load, maybe getting the money later, but getting the money later, it doesn't pay the rent that could make a big difference people in America with paycheck to paycheck, and most of the people who serve us in our government or serve government buildings as contractors don't make a lot and the president at that epic cre- wheel and some people called it devil-may-care. I called news conference at the president had in the rose garden the other day one of the reporters asked him a good question. They PLO would you say to a government employee who is working without pay. And he said, well, I'm gonna pay you in secure borders. Well, that may be great, but secure borders. Of course, do not buy shoes for your kids or like give them money for their field trip. And that's where we start hearing these stories, I think specifically from the military, I think Pacific from Trump country from red states from heartland state that foot Republic. Think 'cause instantly make a big difference? I remember the Josh green book about the campaign the two thousand sixteen campaign in there. He quotes him number former Trump adviser who said that it was number and Roger stone who came up with the idea of the wall really isn't demonic device to remind Trump to talk about immigration and to talk about border security, isn't as strange to you as it is to me that the government is now shutdown over something that was really just kind of a cliff note post it note during the campaign, and how it went from that to something tangible, so true. And by the way this morning on morning, Joe, Joe Scarborough Seinfeld suck down down about nothing. But usually shutdowns have very specific pinpoint being debated here. This abstract the ball, the president keeps changing his definition of what a wall is. And I can tell you that people inside the hill, the White House do not know how you solve this. No people keep saying on TV you can't just be a little on each sad. I think you can I think you can mess around with a deaf. Initiative border security is and maybe come up with something. But it's hard. And some Republicans were telling me g I don't see how we sold this short of the big deal. And Dan, I think we're gonna hear a lot about this today's app. So the big deal would include Dhaka big deal would include some protection for the dreamers came into this country as citizens, but that's months away. There's a supreme court ruling in between that and it's part of what I think a lot of people are complaining is the sort of callous way, the president has talked about this just throw out this could go on for year or years. We'll couldn't. But if you're a federal employee, and if you're really struggling, and if you heard that that might hit you kinda hard my gallon executive editor of axios the normally optimistic except for today. Mike, Allan, thank you very much and welcome back. Thank you. My final two right after this every day four hundred thousand people pass through Times Square and soon titans of the digital economy will have a new way to reach them. TSL's? Broadway is a retail playland designed to host fifteen million visitors every year. With interactive retail, live performances, food and beverage service and a luxury hotel. Learn more at TSN, Broadway dot com. Now, it's for my final two, and I up Sears, which Reuters reports is preparing for the worst. Hiring liquidation firm in case a can't finalize a rescue deal. With chairman Eddie Lampert liquidator called Abacus has done worked for Sears in the past. But this would be to sell everything left all remaining inventory, plus even things like store shelves and lighting fixtures. We should know more tomorrow when Sears Lampard's firms appear in bankruptcy court finally NBC's Dylan Byers reports that Mark Zuckerberg and other top Facebook executives are quote fed up with the antagonistic coverage by the New York Times. So I this defensiveness isn't surprising. No one likes to be regularly hammered in the press. But the reality is here with great power comes great scrutiny and complaining about media coverage doesn't stop that media coverage just after President Trump, and we're done. Thanks for listening to my producers, Adam Grassi and Tim show. Vers have a great national bobblehead day, and we'll be back tomorrow with another pro rata podcast.

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62 Trump: You Make My Dreams Come True... Trashing The G7, Trashing The G7 and..

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31:47 min | 2 years ago

62 Trump: You Make My Dreams Come True... Trashing The G7, Trashing The G7 and..

"Welcome back to the rest in culture, folks, and one of you for being here today. And as always if you wanna reach us, you can reach us arrested culture radar at g mail dot com. Got an interesting show lined up for you. We're gonna talk about the latest numbers on kids separated from their parents. Roles are going to talk about the FBI just crack Coen's encrypted messages on his blackberry. Well, Trump hate to BUSTER balloon here. But you really don't make my dreams. Come true. Not really. Quite the opposite. In folks. I wanna thank you for the listen again today, and that music is from of course, the song you make my dreams come true in its from the phillix Phillips FOX band, and you can find the Phillips box band and the entire clip of this song on YouTube. So look them up, but Trump you don't really make my dreams. Come true. But if I didn't give them constructive criticism. I think it's constructive, right? I mean, I'm not Saint he's got a big caboose or anything like that. Or you know, talking down. I try to keep it constructive. But if I didn't do that. I mean who else would I mean, really the Republicans? Look the other way it is all except the ones that are leaving. And you know, who they are. We're talking about Senator corker Jeff flake and John McCain. But interestingly enough folks today Paul Ryan, who's also packed his bags as we know not seeking reelection today. Paul Ryan just admitted that he is not comfortable with zero tolerance Trump policy that leads to parents and children being separated. And he said today that legislation is necessary. Presumably to stop the practice of declaring immigrants, even those seeking. Silence from being declared criminals, and by declaring them criminals, which as we know allows immigration officials to separate the parents from the minors, declare them criminals, and then you're you're just dealing with animals at that point. Right. Anything goes what you've declared them criminals for seeking asylum. Well, we know it's wrong. And I I swear it so wrong that this inhumane treatment is it's going to run folks against Donald Trump in the long-term. He's not going to win this method of his immigration battle the way that he's carrying this out anyone with a heart in a conscience. In empathy doesn't want immigration done this way. And it's gonna hurt 'em. It's gonna hurt him in the long run. If you're listening, Donald you heard it here. But did you hear today folks that the count of kids separated from their parents now totals two thousand two thousand kids? Well. That's just criminal folks. And that's how you turn it. And that's how you're I mean, really if you wanna think about it. That's how you turn people into future terrorists. Trump must know the recipe here because when you diabolically separate kids from their parents knowing that chances of reunification are slim to none that they'll ever see their parents again, you wounded you've basically wounded these kids at a very early age in without parents or a similar support structure. These psychologically wounded kids. They're gonna face. Uphill battle in life. I mean, I'm not telling you anything different. Like, I said before we've all been kids and to be separated from your parents. I mean, psychologically wounded, and I'm just saying folks that tell you create the conditions the very conditions where these kids are gonna turn to gangs life, a crime or worse. We've always been taught that you should treat people how you want to be treated, and if the shoe were on the other foot, folks, I wonder I wonder how they would feel about it you give respect and you get respect. It's it's not complicated. Well, it so easy to become numb to all of this. I mean, we hear at the news day in day out. But these are real lives that are affected in not justified for the the next day or two for for life. These are real lives that are being affected here. And. For me. There's so much Donald Trump. Does they keeps me burning from within? You know, the just the the anger that I feel that this show is a way that I can sit down and I can spread the gospel. If you will on what he's doing and why it's wrong why it's wrong. And just today on morning, Joe. I don't know if you saw today but on morning, Joe, Joe Scarborough, he lit that flame in my heart again when he compared the methods used by Trump's degration policy to the Nazis, and I just wanna say, absolutely. I mean, Joe you're spot on. This is something that the Nazis. Did we know they did this they separated families, and then they gassed them to death because? This immigration tactic. That Donald Trump is is doing right now this immigration tactic, which he thinks is I mean, and he said that it's basically trying to dissuade them from coming into our borders in applying for a silent. Even this tactic has more in common with the Nazi regime than it has with our country. The United States of America such keep pushing that Joe we need more pushback and evidently the White House. Here's it. They're complaining about what you've said. But it's kind of they hear it. It's in one side LT other type of hearing. And you know, you just really make my dreams come true, folks. Donald trump. I mean, oh, well, I mean it just it's endless. It's just endless. But hang on there. I'm going to be right back with something else. Well, folks. Whoops. I don't know if you heard about this. But Michael Cohen is going to earn the nickname of flipper. That's I'm gonna have to call him flipper. Remember that show that was on TV? Wow. Flipper flipper flipper. What a show. They called him flipper. Well. We'll lives in a world full of wonder and old Michael Cohen here. I've got some interesting stuff today. You know, the FBI just recovered seven hundred thirty one pages of messages and calls from Michael, Coen's blackberry. That's that's a lot. And I'm sure there's going to be more coming out. This is coming to us from Gizmodo dot com. And other reporter is AJ Dellinger this came out today June fifteenth, and the article goes into say that the F B, I just got its hands on a whole lot of Michael Coen's encrypted communications in a letter submitted Friday today, the United States attorney's office revealed that it obtained a treasure trove of messages and call logs from a blackberry that belonged to Michael to president Donald Trump's personal attorney. In according to the letter, the FBI they were able to recover seven hundred thirty one pages worth of conversations from encrypted messaging services. And evidently, he was using something. What's app? What's app in another one called signal. Which it submitted to be reviewed as evidence the FBI did. And the agency was also able to reconstruct sixteen pages of documents that were discovered in shredding machine. When it executed that search warrant all the way back in April sixteen pages, somebody painstakingly put those back together. Oh my gosh. What patience? What patience? It would take. Wealthy FBI has still attempting to extract information from a second black berry that was taken during the sweep of Cohen's home, his office and hotel room and the US attorney's office didn't provider nest minutes to how much more information may be coming from that device, but it did note in the letter to the judge was Kimba Wood that it recovered approximately three hundred fifteen megabytes of data from one blackberry. And the government was advised that the FBI's original electronic extraction of data from telephones did not capture content related to encrypted messaging application. Such as what's happened signal. The letter stated, but the FBI is now they got it. They give enough time. The FBI come up with it. And that's evidently, exactly what they've done and the information recovered from the blackberry was handed over to Cohen and his team of attorneys on Friday today. And he'll be given until June twenty fifth to review all of those materials and claimed protected status on any of the messages protected status client, attorney privilege that kind of thing and those claims will be reviewed by the special master Barbara Jones, who is retired judge that's been assigned the case. So the FBI's latest recovery adds to the already massive pile of data collected from Cohen's devices and iphones in an ipad, a total of two hundred ninety one thousand items were collected from those devices, and it just goes on and on and folks in a wet if that's not enough on Thursday yesterday. Michael Cohen asked to California judge to issue a gag order against Michael avenue. Audie who we know is stormy Daniels lawyer because Michael Cohen claimed that it was depriving him his talk. Michael app. Noughties talk on all these different shows was depriving him of his right to a fair trial make him stop it. And meanwhile, today Trump said that Michael Cohen isn't his personal lawyer anymore, and he's not spoken to my goal and a very long time. And that he Donald Trump had done nothing wrong as we know he says that every chance he gets. But Trump did say that he always liked Michael. And that is sort of a kiss blown from afar. Michael cohen. But is that to be enough to keep Michael from flipping? I always liked Michael Donald Trump said I always liked Michael is that going to be enough to keep Michael Cohen from flipping. Well factor this in folks when we're talking about Michael Cohen flipping up to now Coen's three man legal team that he's got current reviewing the information the FBI gleaned from rating his home his apartment and his office part of these legal bills from this three man legal team. And sometimes even at work guys on the team, depending on what data they're looking at. It's all well, not all of it's being paid. But a large portion of its being paid by the Trump family in according to a New York Times article on June thirteenth Cohen is disputing payment to these lawyers, and he plans on firing these lawyers after they wrap up the review of data from the FBI raid. And again, this was eight boxes of paper. Now, we're up to about thirty cell phones. According to the New York Times, thirty cell phones. God. I've said this before I mean, you don't have thirty cellphones. If if you're just doing your daily business, it's hard to have thirty cell phones. I mean, you don't have thirty cellphones unless you're up to no good. No good. An addition to that he's got pads and computers. And as we just learned today that also clues encrypted communications from the blackberry that were just cracked. Oh, boy, it's really going to we're going to see some stuff here shortly. I think for Michael Cohen. But what grade timing? Really? I mean, if he's gonna flip. If Michael Cohen is going to flip. He fires the Trump paid attorneys. He cuts that line, you know. And then, you know, then he flips. It. Sure feels like it. I mean, it sounds like it's going that way. I mean, what a bombshell that would be what of bond show. My gosh. Oh, well, hang right in there. I've got some more stuff coming right up. Well, Donald Trump. If you're wondering what I'm doing here. I'm just kind of club clubbing down some of my green tea glove in that down in normally it's it's normally coffee, but again, this is a little bit later. It's getting later. So it's green tea, but Trump head a really busy week last week. I mean, he was spinning round round here nonstop he he started off with trashing the G seven our allies. And did you catch all of that? Oh my gosh. I've never seen such drama why on the drama. Why does he have to be so dramatic? I mean, I don't get it. Why all the drama? I mean, come out here to the mid west Donald Trump, and we'll show you how to tone that drama down. We don't do drama out here. For the most part. Do you have that dramatic Senator Stephen King? God don't get me. Started. But oh my gosh. The G seven trashed the meeting. He basically trashed the meeting. And. Then you've got his advisor Larry cudlow last Sunday. He accused the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of undermining the US and its allies with common city made at the g seven summit Kudlow said it was betrayal. And that's what he said on the state of the union and even Trump then lashed out at Trudeau for what he said were false statements had a news conference in said, the US would not endure endorse the g seven communique. A joint communique from all the nations he would not endorse it. We're not going to do it just because it would traduced said, and it's kind of on clear, which of Trudeau statements. Trump was calling false. We do know that Trudeau said in the news conference Saturday that Canada will move forward with retalitary retaliatory measures on July first in response to the Trump administration's decision to impose tariffs on steel aluminum imports from Canada, the European Union along with Mexico. So they're gonna move forward. Here we go. They're going to move forward with their version of the retaliation. And just and said just introduce said that I've made it very clear to the president that it is not something we relish in doing. But it's something that we absolutely will. Do Canadians were polite were reasonable, but we're also not going to be pushed around. In with that my friends. That's exactly why in how trade wars don't work. They become a tit for tat scenario with each side, ramping up the rhetoric, and the trade were escalates and consumers always lose and the Donald Trump. These consumers are voters when you make them lose. They're not gonna forget it even angle Merckel of Germany said on last Sunday night, we won't allow ourselves to be ripped off again. And again, we will act to. You know, trade wars American consumers, they're gonna end up paying more for goods, and they're not going to forget it. When I go to the polls American farmers lose because the tariffs are too high and raise the prices of their products, and therefore they make their products too expensive. It's a lose lose situation. Folks were hitting right in that direction. Just like the Titanic. Everybody loses in a trade war. So that statement from Justin Trudeau is all it took to get these kind of statements from. Trump's administration, you know, his advisors and one of the statements was Trudeau did a great disservice to the whole G seven. He really kind of stabbed us in the back Kudlow said, and then cut low went off, and and you know, unfortunately, he had a heart attack shortly thereafter, he's still kicking. But just about blew a gasket. Then you've got another one. That's not enough. I'm not even bringing up Rudy Giuliani that but you've got Peter Navarro who's Trump's trade advisor? I think he's a nutcase. He directed a series of stinks. Stinging comments at Trudeau on Fox News Sunday life Sunday. And he said, can you believe what he said there's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages and bad faith diplomacy with president Donald J Trump and then tries to stab them in the back on the way out the door. Yeah. So Trump trashes the g seven meeting in at the same time Russia in China, folks. They're meeting at the same time, and they're basically slapping each other's backs on Hello west and their allies or enter freefall. And folks, I think at this moment there, right? I mean. The allies. Basically, it's it you can call it a free fall, and according to axios dot com while the g seven meeting was being trashed by Donald Trump Chinese leaders sheaths Jinping and Putin from Russia met Beijing, and we're having a big laugh about how the west and their allies are in freefall, according to axios. Both Putin in z are surprised and shocked by the repetitive of the US decline. And Russia and China are looking to take advantage of the Trump lead mayhem. It's that bad, folks. Our worst nightmares of Trump dissolving are friendships forged over one hundred years. It's all coming true. And then as we know Trump went on to meet with Kim Jong UN of North Korea. But if I may I second here folks, if I can just assume the personality of Donald Trump. And although it was great. I just have to say L, though, it was great that he at least Trump's at least sat down with Kim Jong Hoon. I will say that. But if I can assume. The personality of Donald Trump. What would John l- Trump have said if Obama had done this? What would he have set? Trump would have criticized the whole meeting with Kim Jong own as a nothing burger with. No beef remember going back. I mean, some of you may not remember or have been around during this time for him. But if you remember back the late eighties. Those those ads for Wendy's those ads when they had Clara Pelter looking at a big fat bun. In nothing was there. I mean, she saying where's the beef? Remember that wears leaf. Yeah. Donald trump. Where's the beef? What the heck? I mean, the whole agreement lack substance it was full of holes on any verification of denuclearizing North Korea. And basic, basically so full of holes that it won't hold any water. I mean, if there's anything to clap about it's basically just that the two are simply talking. Yeah. That's good. But it that's it. I'm sorry. But that meeting was yesterday's news. We're going to bang on Scott Pruitt next. He's coming right up. Just hang on their Scott Pruitt. I'ma bang on you something fierce. Yeah. Scott Pruitt, you making my dreams come true too. And I don't know if you saw it. This is a new report from the New York Times today June fifteenth. And. Kind of an interesting, you know, it just never ends. It just never ends with this guy. I mean, how much is it gonna take Donald Trump? How much how much more are you going to have to hear about Scott Pruitt? And you keep looking the other way yourself on everything that he's done how much more is it gonna take? Well, according to the New York Times today, June fifteenth senior staffers at the PA frequently felt pressured by Scott Pruitt to help and personal matters in obtained special favors for his family with one staff for noting that Pruitt has a clear sense of entitlement about the perks. He should get as cabinet member. He feels entitled to this DS, folks. And here's the list, there's three things from the New York Times. The first one is Mr. Pruitt shortly after taking the EPA job. He reached out to the former speaker of the Virginia house of delegates seeking help for his daughter. Mckenna. In securing admission to the university of Virginia law school of law. William hell, the former speaker. Appears on Mr. Pruitt's IPE official, by the way EPA calendar. And he confirmed in an interview that he was approached by Mr. Pruitt and subsequently wrote a letter to the school's dean on the daughters behalf nasty. I mean, just pulling strings all over the place just because he can't I mean how much more. And number two. Scott Pruitt was getting his daughter an internship at the White House. An internship at the White House. Good night. In separately. At least three EPA staff. Members were dispatched to help miss put obtain a somber a summer internship at the White House. The both current and former staff members have said and Kevin chimps ski who was Mr. Pruitt's deputy chief of staff for operations until February when he was fired recalled a conversation last year when Mr. Pruitt instructed him and other top aides to see what you can do see what you can do about getting an internship for my daughter, which is by the way, highly competitive and prize post in Washington and surprise miss pro was selected as an intern last summer. The third point tickets to sporting events and FaceTime with players beforehand. Mr. Pruitt also had a staff include various sporting events in his schedule which included bring his considerable considerable EPA security detail with them the current and former aides have said among the sporting events helped arrange for Pruitt among the sporting events that aids helped arrange for Mr. Pruitt to attend were to Washington nationals baseball games, including one on July fifth when they negotiated access for Mr. Pruitt to the team's batting practice before scheduled matchup with the New York Mets, according to e mails obtained by the Sierra Club. Thanks for taking my call this morning, if we could range for administrator Pruitt to come to batting practice before July fifth game that would be wonderful Madeline Morris than an EPA aide wrote an Email to the nationals vice president for. For community engagement, Gregory McCarthy that would be wonderful in general, the what Scott Pruitt's doing here folks in general. He's trying to leave the lifestyle of a person whose net worth is many multiples of his he's he's about as should be, you know, just middle class. I mean when you look at it. He's just simply middle class. But he's trying to lift lifestyle will the person who's net worth as many multiples of his according to aides who spoke to the times Pruitt told them that he expected a certain standard of living. I can to a wealthier Trump cabinet members gave the impression that he saw them as footsoldiers achieving that lifestyle. The problem here is that is noted in the article was that he's not a billionaire. But he thinks he is. He thinks he has, you know, it's just it's just itchy. I mean, no matter which way I look at Scott Pruitt. It's revolting. You know, it's it just turns your stomach in all Republicans. They they just seem to look the other way. They just look the other way like they've always been doing. They just stick their head in the sand. Go ahead and do that if you must, but it's not going to end until some Republican stand up and say they've had enough of Scott, Pruitt and deem him to be fired demand him to be fired. I mean, he he needs to go. And folks, here's another great deed that Scott Pruitt is doing right now. And this would came out just yesterday. And Scott Pruitt is putting a legal proposal on Trump's desk. Actually, he did that day. He put a proposal on Trump's desk to date at your manically skill back Obama's regulations on water pollution, and you know, it just continues. If it's got Obama's name on it till matter, how common sense it is without even looking at it. They just wanted to go, and here's one that he just put on Trump's desk today to scale back Obama era regulations on water pollution. In folks, this is a significant rollback in both size and scope in on Monday. This coming Monday, look for this one. Scott Pruitt is expected to publish another major change. And he plans to gut Obama's rule to reduce client warming pollution. It's going to be a rule to reduce climate warming pollution from vehicle tail pipes. And you could look for that bombshell coming out on Monday. Well, well done you little toad Scott Pruitt well done. Oh my gosh. Kind of reminds me of the three stooges you know, what you know, better than that. Scott pruitt. Do I know? Yeah. Get ahead of here. We'll folks I'm gonna leave you on a good note. We've actually got I don't know if you saw this this came out actually on June six, and I've been meaning to kind of throw this out there, but something something encouraging here, and this is coming to us from Melissa Healy wrote this article from the Los Angeles Times, and it's called a cancer breakthrough. That is encouraging and it's cold immunotherapy many of you know, what that is in its writting patients of advanced breast cancer. And I'm just going to give you the pertinent bits of this article here, and you can look it up more detail if you'd like, but in the all all hands I'll effort to harness the powers of the immune system to fight cancer. Scientists have reported that a new approach has eliminated all evidence of advanced stage breast cancer in a forty nine year old woman who had run out of treatment options only forty nine years old. The patients complete durable cancer regression Fulda single infusion a single infusion of her own immune cells, which were painstakingly chosen for their ability to recognize fight her tumors. And then expanded into an army of nearly one hundred billion identical cells. So they found the ones that were fighting her tumor, and they expand those into a hundred billion identical sells more than three years later. The patient whose name is Judy Perkins is not only alive, but she seemingly cancer-free according to a report published last Monday in the journal nature medicine. And she says, I've definitely hit the jackpot here. Judy Perkins said yes, you have Judy aim. We're happy happy that you have. And I hope this holds a lot of promise for a lot of folks out there. It's about time. It's about damn time. And Judy is a retired engineer from port Saint, Lucie, Florida. Not too far from where I'm from down in West Palm Beach, and she's out there. They shore in a kayak. She's having a great time and she's smiling, and she's cancer free. So let's hope this is something folks that you know, we can point to to save some lives. We've all lost somebody from from cancer. No doubt. Maybe this is something that's gonna turn the pages. Interesting stuff. Well, folks, again, I wanna thank you for listening to us here, and again, we'll be back here shortly. And again, this is the you make my dreams come true cover, and it's from the Philip FOX band, you can find him on you. Who? Sorry, YouTube you can find them on you. Thanks for listening. 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Washington Post Fact Checker Glenn Kessler on Trump and the Truth

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Washington Post Fact Checker Glenn Kessler on Trump and the Truth

"Three. Can. Major, yes, CBS yes, I. Welcome Major Garrett from the nation's capital major fantastic. It's the takeout major with CBS. News, chief Washington correspondent later. That's nonsense Major Garrett. Welcome to the rivers part of my broadcast week. I Major Garrett host and creator of this amazing program known as the takeout where each and every week we are two things. What are those two things relentlessly curious, steadfastly, non ideological. And working from home last week working from the office Oh back to the home set here in the dining room. Glenn. Kessler is our special guests this week. We're going to have a conversation about facts fact, checking and the forty fifth president of the United States Donald, trump and right then and there facts fact, checking donald trump, that's a mouthful all by itself with many implications for accuracy for fact, checking for truth in this country, and for the journalists who try to run those facts to ground, or bring them to the audience, their audience with as much clarity and context. It's possible Glenn is the author along with his partners the Washington Post. Salvador Rizzo and make Kelly of a new book called Donald Trump and his assault on truth. Glenn. It's great to have you with us, thanks for joining us. Glad to be here. So. I want to start this conversation not about the book, but about presidents and their relationship to the truth. I haven't talked to the President Meeting Donald Trump about this personally, but I believe those around him. Think about truth in this way. Oh come on other presidents have told lies, and they've been bigger lies and people have died. Because of those lives or people kept dying because of those lies, and whatever donald trump does or doesn't do as a troop. He hasn't killed. Anybody and people have died in the numbers that they did under Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon. and. He didn't set up a pure of Bureau of truth to push out propaganda and pass addition law like Woodrow Wilson did. So He's a piker compared to his predecessors again. I'm not sure that's exactly how they would put it, but I think it's in the general ballpark and I think you might agree responded that. Well. I would respectfully disagree with that. Basic. Assertion. I mean every president lies. There are lots of reasons why presidents lied. They sometimes do it for national security. They sometimes do it to protect themselves from embarrassments, Still Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky they sometimes do it because they're trying to sell a program. You think of you know. You want to keep your doctor you can. Keep your plan, you can keep your plan that kind of thing. What is unique about trump and I have covered every president since Ronald Reagan ev course studied previous presidents before then. What is unique about trump is that he misleads, says false things and lies about just about everything on a regular basis. He, has he before? The Corona virus struck He had pretty good economic news. He would mislead about that. He would routinely inflates by six hundred thousand. The number of jobs created in his administration. And I think what is you know? Part of the reason why we wrote our book was to year. We have been fact checking the President Day in and day out. and. We have this greatest database which at this point has. More than nineteen thousand claims in IT but to see it all in one place in the read through and look at how on just about every issue you can imagine. The president is not taught, told the truth about himself about his enemies about his policies. I think it's for many people would would be. It will be actually shocking the CFO, in one place. For sure? And how comfortable or uncomfortable are you Glenn with the Word Lie? I've never been particularly comfortable with it. Lie Means you have to get into someone's head and you can say they knowingly said this. Knowing that was false. And one of the unique things about President trump is I actually think he often believes what he's saying, even if it's completely contradictory to what he said the day before. Is Very situational. He lives in the moment. And so? We. We said it was a lie when he said he didn't know about the payments to his alleged paramour well, he was recorded on tape. Talking about those payments. That's pretty definitive trump that he should have known it was. You know the. Yeah, not the truth, but another thing you know what he I mean years of us an example of a policy issue He has routinely inflated. By fact of ten or twenty, the number of jobs that could possibly been created by the business deals with Saudi Arabia. And One space of five minutes he went from six hundred thousand jobs to a million jobs. But he. And when I looked into it I got I got obtained a list of all the deals in a lot of them were. You weren't. Hadn't come to fruition, and the numbers were much smaller talked about, and in fact, most of those jobs are being created Saudi Arabia, not in the United States, but I think he's convinced himself that actually he has achieved creating a million jobs with Saudi Arabia. Even though it's not that at all, and that's one reason why he continues to not punish Saudi Arabia for the brutal killing of former college alcocer so. You know there. You see actually a policy implication from the president, believing something that is not true, and even though our fact, check the number of times. He's not going to believe me. He's going to believe himself right and their implications from that exaggeration, and or that misstatement that carry great weight back to our original conversation about well, these lies are possibly innocent as compared to others. You would say in that instance. Another is no, they're not. Exactly, and you know and you know. Wouldn't you question? has anyone died because of his lies? Well, you know his his statements about the crow virus where he. Downplayed it. To such an extent that the United States was caught flat-footed by the emergence of the virus well in. One could make a case that. More people have passed away from the virus because the United States is not prepared. So, is that new tribute at to President Trump's rhetoric? I'm not about to do that, but there are certainly people that might make that. Linkage there others in the trump world and I'm sure you've heard this as well because I'm sure you get more feedback even than I do on these kinds of points, and we can talk about that, but during the campaign of two thousand sixteen throughout covering the presidency. Part of the feedback is he's an exaggerated. Everybody knew that he said it in his first bestselling book in plain English, that he's an exaggerated that he is a marketer, and that he grabs publicity and use it to his own advantage. That would be their context point one context point to is, they would say you guys don't get. Every time you chase one of these facts and prove it to be misleading or something, you're giving more publicity the thing he wants more publicity about. which is his way of manipulating? You guys without you guys even knowing it. Respond to those too. Well I think it gives a. Little, too much credit to the pro, which is what people around trump do of course you know that as well as I do right right, but then giving him I'd say that's giving them too much credit I bowl east president of the United States. There is a baseline standard for the for the credibility of the President you know if he's misleading the American people on a regular basis that probably means he's mis- misleading. Other, foreign leaders, in fact, we have evidence from sane things that are false to foreign leaders mean he wants admitted. He got in a big fight with Justin. Trudeau where you said. Of course you have a trade deficit with us. When he admitted you know in a recording relator obtained. He admitted actually had no idea, but he couldn't possibly imagined that there was a surplus true was like. It's a surplus guy so. So. Then gets to the basic credibility of of of the president. So if if members of Congress can trust, twenty says if other foreign leaders can't trust what he says if the American people can't trust what he says. That's a problem. And you don't really expect a president to routinely mislead on so many. Ways. I mean the other thing is. He's trying to get a gets us the right about these things. I don't know he'll talk. Glenn I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Have you think about that because I need to jump to a break? I major with Glenn Kessler. The book Donald Trump and his assault on the trip back. From CBS News. This is the takeout with Major Garrett. Welcome back in a special shout out to our audience, listening for the second week on Sirius Xm Channel One twenty, four fantastic on Sirius Xm and to all of our terrestrial radio stations to most recent KFI and being my hometown of San Diego, and Katie, k. and Pittsburgh great to have you on. The takeout radio network, and for those of you who are early adopters on the podcast platforms. We know and love you same thing on CBS Glenn. Kessler is our special guests. Donald Trump and his assault on the truth on truth is the book. Can, class'll is the head fact checker for the Washington Post. He also works with Salvador Rizzo and Meg Kelly. That is the. Team, so I set you up, Glen! You're chasing these things thereby amplifying what he says and he's basically using you to his own publicity devices. Well I don't really accept that either he. The fact checks when we say hey. It's four Pinocchio are worth rating. This is false doesn't really help them in terms of getting his message out. I fully admit that. Not, everyone will buy our analysis, or they will look at it through a partisan lens view. These fact checks like little. Paper boats I. Put on the river and they go off and who knows what people do with them. And there is so. Studies have shown that when people who support Donald Trump. Read fact checks that they come up way better informed about what the truth is, but it doesn't necessarily changed your opinion of the president. and in fact The Washington Post. We we did a poll last year where we replicated a question that was asked fifteen years ago. where we. Republicans Democrats independents asked. Is it important for a president to be honest and trustworthy right in fifteen years ago, seventy percent of Democrats, Republicans and independents. Said yes. When we redid the poll with the exact same question. Seventy percent of Independents and Democrats still said yes, but forty nine percent of Republicans said yes, then that's statistically significant, and it suggests that they understand the president is not telling the truth, but because they supported politically, they decided. That's not really important attribute for president. Any right I want to ask you about something that I wrote about in my book. Mr Trump's wild ride and reflected conversations I had was many trump's supporters in two thousand sixteen, and it went something like this. I know he's not factually accurate, but he speaks larger truths or truths that are more important to me. He's onto something that's bigger than the Washington power structure or establishment wants admit, and when I would ask for specifics, the first thing almost always was immigration, the importance of a border wall to them trade, and the hollowing out of the manufacturing sector of our country and getting tough with China, not just talking about it. And I came away from those conversations with the general assumption that they're feeling was many politicians were factually accurate, but misleading them about their intention, trump was factually inaccurate, but honest about his intentions, and they were willing to take the ladder, and we're sick of the former well. What do I look at it? As part of trump's secret sauce for being elected in two thousand sixteen. was he said things that a lot of his core supporters already believed to be true. But previous candidates would say it because they actually knew they weren't true. so for instance trump would routinely say millions of illegal immigrants are crossing our border every year now, a more conventional Republican. Candidate Mitt Romney or Marco Rubio. Wouldn't have said that because they knew it wasn't true, they would frame it wage of saying. Adl Illegal Immigration Asleep the worry about we have the crackdown, but they wouldn't say something so demonstrably untrue. But trump was saying it. Millions of of illegals are crossing the border. It sounds like finally. There was a politician of telling the truth. And some of his more controversial statements, all fell into that room. Another example is his claim that thousands of Muslims for watching the fall of the trump towers cheering in New Jersey a Jersey City. The Twin Towers Right Right Dour, yes, and. Again no factual basis for that. But Trump He didn't back off. He doubled down and there were many people that believe that to be true already so again he was. He was saying false things, but they felt true to his supporters right I remember. During the two thousand sixteen campaign. I did several stories on whether or not he actually opposed the Iraq war. And I got a ton of criticism from trump's supporters, saying you just hate him. And I'm like no I'm trying to find out exactly if what he's saying today comports with what he says. He said back then in most cases it didn't. Right like I said he's completely situational. We looked into the Iraq. War thing to there's nothing indicating opposed it, but. You feel stick with the script. No matter what. So when I was in college, I had a beloved professor named how lister. He's passed away, but he was instrumental in teaching me some of the fundamentals of this business and this great phrase that I've never forgotten. That's not just a fact. That's a true fact. And what he meant by that was look. It can be a fact that somebody said something. It's a fact that somebody said something. That doesn't make it a fact. You've got to check that thing that was said. And go deeper. What is your assessment of what fact is and how you know it's a fact. And how does that process work in this work that you Salvador rezoned? Make Kelly do. Well. It's an interesting question. Being you know the the the fact checker. The the column at Washington Post, we use statements by politicians as a jumping off point to right deeply about complex policy issues. And one of the reasons why we started the trump database was a lot of things that trump says, or can be dismissed very quickly as factually wrong, not particularly interesting, so we didn't want to be bogged down with chasing the latest tweet. At, distracted from our. Core mission which is to we explain complex policy issues. Do. That's the rationale behind what we're doing what we didn't realize was. Trump would start to say so. Many things on a daily basis of were wrong that the database became this all consuming project. But ideally a fact is something. It's not really in dispute and part of the The tricky thing with politicians is they're often trying to sell you a policy and the just tweaking that. Statistic just a little bit to make their policy look better or to make the opponents policy look worse. And you, we try our best to. Dig, through all the data and talk to the experts come to conclusion is a real advocate of readers. You're confused about this. Year's the closest. We can come to ground. What's the, Pinocchio? You made a reference to it I want to make sure audience understands exactly what the Pinocchio is. Well We have what is the Pinocchio Scale? How we rate the politicians as the accuracy of the politician statements I. It's like a reverse restaurant review four. Pinocchio is the worst. It's a whopper. A goes to three Pinocchio. It's sitting in this mostly false to would be halfway through one Pinocchio. Unfortunately, we don't give very many of those. Bother wreck. It's in the ballpark mostly true. It's slights shading, and then the usually we will give something called the Japan checkmark, which means it completely factually true, and we reserve that for a claims that are unexpectedly true. Politician says the sky is blue, but we okay, that's an interesting fact check, but suppose they said the moon was made of green cheese and we determined that was true. You'd say well look unexpectedly true. Agenda checkmark. And I should know we if a politician says I messed up. I made a mistake I made an error in tells us that we do not award the Pinocchio it's. were. we're doing it. The shame people so of a politician admits error. Nokia's though it's often hard for them to do that. Has the president of the United States this president ever received the Japan checkmark or come remotely close. Oh interesting question. I believe on occasion he has maybe once was in the campaign. But I'm sorry. I monitor the presidency. Okay, very good very good so Glenn on the other side of this break we're going to play some sound bytes from you and I'll give you the page citation from the book and you have you describe some of the things the president said, and how we said them, and we'll go through the fact. Check on that. I major, Garrett. You are listening viewing and thoroughly enjoying the take our special guests Kessler of the Washington, Post, the Book Donald Trump and his assault on truth back in a second. Speak! From CBS News. This is the takeout with major. Garrett Glenn Kessler Special Guests Book, Donald. Trump and his assault on truth Glenn I want to play for you. Some sound bite from the president. This first one referenced in Your Book Page Eighty six October twenty eighteen about US steel. Steel is now building seven plants. The steel industry has literally revived. Helping plants. Seven plants eight plants how many plants? Actually the number was zero. The number that number of growing I think at one point got to be nine plants. and. You know us. Steel is a public company. If they were doing such a major expansion, it something that would have been announced publicly. And the president claimed he heard this in a phone call with the head of US steel, and There was some. Reopening of A section of plant that was already operating that sort of thing. But it was just it was just a fantasy, and the interesting thing of that was US steel simply would not talk about it. They didn't WanNA get crosswise with the president, so they just maintained radio silence for just not going to answer this question. which from a journalistic point of view is not one of the more complex questions you've ever put to anyone Have you opened six or seven or eight or nine new plants? Exactly exactly, this is tough one. I got the I. Recall I. Don't have it in front of me, I. Recall I got a statement. That was very obscure, but I said. I wrote. Basically they're saying the president is wrong, but they don't want to say it in so many words exactly all right I'll see another example for you. This is from January twenty twenty about. President Obama and the Iran deal Oh. Baba, gave me one hundred, fifty, billion, one point eight billion in cash. Got Zero Zero. Zero. I'd love to have that money back a lot of money. One hundred fifty billion dollars President Obama paid and one point eight billion in cash. Whoever saw million dollars filed up as a promotion in hundred dollar bills a lot, so that is I think it's fair to say Glenn One of the President's favorites chestnut of his. It rolled out a lot. Give us the fact. Check on that okay. There are two elements to that. There's one hundred fifty billion. This was not money for Obama to give you know. Obama along with the. United States along with. Six other countries Russia China. United Kingdom. France Germany negotiated agreement about restraining the weapons nuclear weapons program of ran. As part of that, there was an unfreezing of assets that. Iran had. The blown to Iran that belonged to banks overseas, none of which were in the United States. And you know the one hundred fifty billion is the far end estimate of what that those assets could have been worth the US Treasury action, said it was about fifty billion, the Bank of Iran settlers about thirty two billion. you know a lot of it was? Stop can things they couldn't unravel anyway, but it was never money that Abacha gave your ran out of the US. Treasury. which is what it sounds like. It was always yeah, always as we could've used that money, but oh, it was never hours the give. It was frozen Iranian, money and The. Know Anyway just one of his favourite justices. You say, but it's completely false the one point eight. One point eight million in cash that had that's a separate thing which had to do with the release of some hostages and Iran, one of whom was one of my colleagues at the Washington, Post and There was a separate longstanding disagreement between Iran and the United States about a deposit ran had made states for some weapons back when the Shah Ran. The country right and we canceled the purchase as a result of the Iranian revolution, and the subsequent taking American hostages held the money. And Iran always said you can't hold that money. You never gave us the weapons. Penalties and interest accrued. This was an international financial verdict. ministrations previous to this one had ignored, but didn't make it any less valid, and the eyes of the Iranians and in this context negotiation was one of their asks. Right exactly, and so you know. Technically. The the resolution of this a money issue was not connected to the release of the detainees, but it did turn out that the plane for Yes, carrying my colleague did not take off until the plane carrying the cash showed up in Tehran right now. It's one of those it's one of those diplomatic artifices, but again it's it was money to the United States owed to Aram. Precisely and for those who are fascinated about that conversation, and it is exactly that a fascinating conversation go to take out PODCASTS DOT com scroll through archives, and you will see a show. Devoted to that conversation with none other than Jason Resign. Who is the colleague that Glenn Kessler is talking about last one This is about Chicago and Afghanistan all over the world docket about Chicago. Afghanistan is a safe place by comparison. It's true, not true right right. Well, you you just of these apples and oranges, kinds of things I, mean you comparing a? City to entire country, so they got that problem right there line. Maybe we should. What's equivalent to Afghanistan Maryland or something like that is so? Basic problem but there were in the same. Service Chicago is a high homicide right, but the number of people killed in in Chicago is far less than number of people have been killed in Afghanistan of the same period of time. I mean if Ghanistan is a war zone. It's not the same as Chicago precisely, but that would be an example of the president. Using something he knows is false to amplify something that his supporters believe is fundamentally true Chicago's a dangerous place out of control and badly ship. Right because guess Chicago they're. RUN BY DEMO it's run by Democrats right. Right. Exactly exactly so. When you think about the. You mentioned this earlier and I want to drill down on this. You said you don't want to chase the things that Donald Trump says. That are not linked to kind of substantive policy. Does that take away. A third or a half of the things that you could fairly say about the president or untrue that he says. or Maybe something like you're sparing yourself ten percent of work I mean how does that? Influence your daily or weekly or monthly workload separating it on policy as opposed to something that just a misstatement, exaggeration and or untruth. Well, it's. Really done the math and I have to admit that sometimes. We simply have to backtrack such as when yesterday. He falsely suggested that this demonstrator in Buffalo was somehow you part of a staged operation? Make the police look bad or when he said Joe Scarborough, the MSNBC hosts had possibly you know murdered. His aide who also suggested was maybe his lover, so things like that. You kind of feel like you have to weigh in. but because the danger of not fact, checking them is that they can take on a life of their own. Right and we all get there's that. So you WANNA. Stop It. NIP IT in the bud in some cases also. The scarborough thing. He said at a dozen times, so we. You know we wanna know when things are being repeated in what looks like a deliberate effort of some sort of propaganda So that And, we do I showed. We have this week because of Donald Trump we created a new category, called the Bottomless Pinocchio again to deal with that question about ally, and this is a where we identify a statement that has been deemed. Either Three Pinocchio. Four Pinocchio False and it's been repeated. Twenty or more times, so therefore we have, we can say you know. The president really should know better. But he's now. Keep saying it, so that's that's an maybe. A different way of saying line because again. We can't get inside his head. But do now nearly forty statements like that where he really should know at this point. That's the voice of Glenn. Kessler Washington Post. He works with Salvador Rizzo, Make Kelly on the fact, check team, book, Donald, trump and his assault on truth stay tuned for segment for Jessica. Birds from CBS News. This is the takeout with major Garrett back on CBS. Sirius XM radio radio stations around the country, and of course all the best podcasts platforms. I Major Garrett this is the takeout are continuing conversation working from home? Not doing the show the way we usually do Glenn and I would much rather be in a restaurant. Having an adult beverage well all speak for myself having an adult beverage and a meal Glenn. We'll get around to that. We'll get to that at the earliest opportunity I promise you. The book Donald Trump and his assault on truth Glenn Works Salvador Rizzo and make Kelly they are all together. Authors of this book does the White House get in your face about this process, or does it not care Glenn? You know generally they don't really respond that much to us. They sometimes they engage a sometimes. They don't I mean some just decide. It's not worth. Trying to I guess defend the president They've never really said anything about the database with its nineteen thousand claims they've never. Disputed that or Questioned what we put in there. The president. He seems bothered by the Pinocchio He's about Twenty Times now. He is talked about how he hates. Getting, Pinocchio, And if we and whatever to Nitpicky, you know if he's ninety nine percent right? He gets a parochial and he's called a liar so. He's clearly noticed in itself, not true. Right exactly. Has the president ever cited your work about somebody else. Yes, constantly aid if we give four Pinocchio of. Chuck Schumer. I Gave Four Pinocchio Schumer for a statement about the tax bill, trump trump trump trumpeted that. Quite a bit, and then when we gave four Pinocchio Adam Schiff, the his peach Damasus he could not stop talking about it of course at one point I think. He said he got ten Nokia's not for CRA Nokia's. Back to the exaggerating meter, which is. Word I just invented. It applies. As you know long before Donald Trump this whole idea of media fact checking was scrutinized by those who brand themselves either ideological or partisan conservative saying it is disproportionately hard on conservatives and Republicans and lighter touch on Democrats slash liberals. I'm sure you've heard that criticism. Evaluated? Well I don't I don't agree with it I know that Brock Obama was not happy to get Pinocchio either. And I'm sure that White House did fight you on those Oh. Yes, yes, euthanasia, all. I'm guessing. Yes, exactly. I would be up until midnight getting. They would like if they thought it was going to be even to Nokia's I'd be midnight. Were they say here's another professor you can talk to. Here's another person that will back us up and. They took it very very seriously. And I always say between the two political parties. They're exactly the same way in this core thing. This core element. If they think it will give them a political advantage, they will exaggerate. And it's that's the nature of politicians. As I. DON'T THINK WE'RE EASIER ON DEMOCRATS THAN WE are on Republicans and I can tell you the the pushback we get from. Some Democrats is sometimes even more intense than anything. We ever get from Republicans I was of subject of many critical articles by Bernie. Sanders supporters We tend to give Bernie a fair number of Pinocchio Switch. They seem to incorrectly believe was because we were. You know doing the bidding of mainstream Democrats to try to bring down Bernie our corporate Democrats or something like that right we were. We were just trying to stick to the facts. So we're, we're the subject of criticism. No matter WHO's oxes being gored right, you mentioned before we went to break something that because of its frequency in Joe, scarborough, case or because of it. Surprising nature this accusation about the seventy five year old gentleman in buffalo you felt compelled. To fact, check both quickly summarize those cases, so those who are listening can understand the work you've done on both. Okay, in the case of Joe Joe, scarborough when he was. A member of Congress. Twenty plus years ago, and he was actually hit announced he was going to retire one of his aides in one of his Florida offices a had A. Had something like a brain aneurysm or something like that and fell against. A. Your desk and was found dead the next morning. And interestingly. There was some people on the left that tried to make it into some sort of conspiracy involving Joe Scarborough and trump years later as now picked it up and suggested this. A cold case needs to be investigated. by all accounts he you know it was thoroughly investigated by the police. There was no foul play. Joe Scarborough was hundreds of miles away. He barely knew the woman. And yet trump suggested that he may have actually been somehow romantically involved with her, and this needs to be investigated is just ask him. Questions is kind of the way that the White House defends his statements on this, but actually we live whole chapter book about trump and his enemies, and how he goes after people that he thinks have done him wrong. and we don't have scarborough. That's a recent development, but that's typical of the way to President operates and this gentleman in Buffalo. In Buffalo. Apparently, the president was watching an episode on one. American news network which is A. A! Tiny little network to the right of Fox News, and they air all sorts of strange, often factually inaccurate reports. And they ran a report that was based on a blog post by an anonymous person that were suggesting somehow this seventy five year old man who was. Knocked over by police. Critically injured was somehow using. His cell phone is a kind of police scanner to. You know in working on behalf of at the Feta. It's pretty deep into conspiratorial reads and again it's kind of shocking. President would even raise this issue and tried to promote it. And, it's that kind of thing that sort of sounds an alarm within your team. Hey. I wonder. Do you struggle with the idea? Oh, this is so. Outside of anything that is remotely factual. We shouldn't waste our time on it or do you say no? We have to, because it is so far outside and we need to try to tether it to something in reality. Well there, there have been times when we've said No. This is so far out of line. Jump worth we really are already five articles in the Washington Post website dealing with this, and then we regretted afterwards because it becomes an issue so I felt in the case of the Buffalo Man. It was important to get something down so that we could refer to it. In the future of comes up again. I've gotten kind of a sixth sense of when trump is going to. You know it's not a one off thing that he's going to actually. Make an issue out of it so I kind of feel like this might be a case of that and gaze of your scarborough obedience now a dozen times you said it. Was, a case of we've got to get this down for the record because it looks like it'll be a bottomless finocchio. Very good, that's the voice of Glenn Kessler. He and his team Salvador Rizzo, Kelly the authors of New Book Donald Trump and his assault on truth for our radio audience. Sadly, we have to say farewell. Those on podcast platforms NC bsn stay tuned for the takeout I'll take a special where I'm going to answer the question for your kids. If you WANNA, grow up and be a fact checker. How do you do that? We'll talk. About, that on the other side of this break, I major Garrett for the radio. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week. From CBS News. This is the takeout with major Garrett or takeout take especially. L. Major Garrett Glenn Kessler The Washington Post our special guests. He and Salvador Izzo and make Kelly. They comprise the fact. Check team at that August and important American newspaper, and they written a book. Called Donald Trump and his assault on true so Glenn! How does one grow up to become a fact checker? Well. We all are in this business, but I mean you're the. Capital T. Capital H. Capital E. With quotation marks around. The fact Checker! Right well, it's not necessarily something nice set out to do. I've. You know the post had created the fact checker. In the two thousand seven campaign was started by a former colleague of mine, Michael, Dobbs. Correspondent he was between books. Twenty eleven I revived it 'cause it was deck was only for the campaign I. That is a permanent feature. The editors asked me to do it. I think they chose me, because I'd cover all sorts of at cover just about every building in Washington. I spent nine years as the State Department correspondent for that. Congress I covered. The White House I. Mean we sat next to each other and use gentler in the capital. Down on absolute, so I knew where all the. Bodies were buried, so and we're. The reports can be found, and where you can run these things to ground. That's the that's a phrase I've mentioned before, and people may not know what I'm talking about, but in the trade we talk about running facts to ground. Right so process. Right Ed lots of contacts lots of sources. I had. I had done fact checking during the presidential debates. There was something I propose to the post when I came. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight so I didn't two thousand I remember having funny phone calls with. Ari Fleischer. and. The Gore people were crazy about them. They were so upset that I would say was wrong and Ari would call me up. Say we don't really care. Right which goes to this under thing I'm GonNa talk about which is. This space in American politics. It's always been there. Perhaps it's larger now than ever before I don't know. But where people say okay, those are those facts, but I have my beliefs, and you can have your facts, but I'm entitled to my beliefs, and I can vote on them and the ninth thing you can do about. It, we're not trying to challenge people's beliefs, and in an oh my feeling like I said defect checks. It's up the people with what they what they take away from it. And what they do with them, and how they integrate what we disclose the facts in terms of their own political behavior. But they ideas like. Let's have a common base of truth and understanding. Is My? My feeling is if you're if you have to manipulate the facts in order to sell your policy then, maybe there's something wrong with your policy, not a problem with the facts and if One of the problems we've increasingly face in the United States in this very partisan age. Is People aren't even operating off the same factual basis. There's one narrative and there's another narrative and the two will not meet up so hopefully we are there to help people on both sides understand well. Here's some ground truth and from there you can. You. Know, decide what you want to do with. The ask you something that I'm really really genuinely curious about which is. To what degree do you and your team operate under a fierce deadline pressure one of the things that's become true in our careers Glenn. And the digital revolution is deadlines are not what they used to be. They are so much more rapid. The pressure is so much more intense. and I wonder if there is something about this work where you have a little bit of latitude to say no, we we need more time. Yes, definitely definitely you know we don't publish a fact. Check to. It's ready. We try to have at least one fact check day, but we don't Nestle. We don't abide by that. and. You know we I refuse something called. Live fact, checking you know. The president is making the speech right We only will lie fact. Check things we have previously fact checked. In the case of trump, it's relatively easy because he often says many the same full range over and over again. But we're not gonNA necessarily fact checked Salim on the fly. If we can't run down to that, point will say you know you're gonNA. Have to wait a day to find out if what was said in the democratic date was correct. Because, you know we need to actually check it I right. With a with a with a trump speech in live fact checking, you might just do what you might find in end notes or a bibliography it'd. Right right. Have this database. So. Go searching. Said this much before. I would be remiss if I. Let you go without asking you the three threshold questions. We've each and every guest at the takeout table or takeout work from home table. So in whichever order you prefer most influential book in Your Life All time, favorite movie or one of your favorite movies, and if you're going to indulge yourself musically, what kind of artist are Sean? What are you most likely to listen to? Oh okay well musically I basically listen to the Beatles. Never progressed from the wrong. So beautiful songwriting there some fantastic. Exercise Music. It's just every Beatles album ever put together. So I. Guess Me James Rosen. Yes, exactly. And Favorite movie I. Guess I will fall on the Godfather or citizen Kane one of those two. Not The post. 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Debating the New Hampshire Primary

In The Thick

37:32 min | 1 year ago

Debating the New Hampshire Primary

"Ooh Hey what's up. Welcome to in the thickness podcast about politics. Race and culture from a POC perspective. And I'm and pillow. It's a special Monday. Drop ahead of the New Hampshire twenty twenty primary election. which is this Tuesday day but before we get to that I lo just a reminder? It family. We'd better see you in Mississippi we've got to live shows and podcasts cast workshop. We want to see you there. And the first week of March we want to see you in Detroit for another live show so check out our social media and today's episode show have all the information to RSVP okay. Let's move to another state a little bit north of Mississippi Julia. You you were in New Hampshire just to clarify that demographically. It is actually whiter demographically than Iowa but we are talking about the POC. Vote in New Hampshire. We're going to get to that in a second. But who do you. You drove over the border line from Massachusetts to the New Hampshire. And you're GONNA give us your hot takes on Friday's debate. I loved your ratings. They were kind of adorable power. Rankings your power our ranking. I'm going to trademark those race. Did come up for a good portion of the debate but aside from Andrew Yang it was an all white stage so he kind of made you feel like wow it would have been interesting to hear what's on the candidates of color had to say about reparations voter suppression and in the case of Andrew Yang you know. This claim that universal basic income would solve the issue of racism. Oh alright that got US side center. He said just just letting you guys know I I mean economic empowerment. Yes but it's not gonNA solve everything after Pete. Buddha judge performed well in Iowa wasn't surprising that Elizabeth Warren Enemy Clova Char went after after him. Clova Char started criticizing Buddha judges electability by pointing to his lack of political experience. Warren took issue with his answer on the issue of race The moderator from ABC News Lindsay Davis Pushed Buddha judge on the fact that racial disparity in marijuana arrests in south bend. Indiana in his city went up during his time as mayor. You know was there a pressure from him to say we want. We want better numbers right right. Buddha judge kind of skirted around his answer and Warren made it clear. That race shouldn't only be brought up when people are talking about criminal justice. Thank you you for that in so many cases of incarceration disproportionately of black and Brown Americans. Were the incarceration. Did far more harm right. Hello how do you explain the increase in black arrests in south bend under your leadership for marijuana possession. The overall rate was lower. There was an increase the year before you were an office. It was lower once you became in office in two thousand twelve. That number went up in two thousand eighteen. The last number of years here that we have record for that number was still up and one of the strategies that are community adopted was to target when they were cases where there was gun violence and gang violence which was slaughtering so many in our community burying teenagers. Disproportionately black teenagers. We adopted a strategy. That said that drug enforcement would be targeted in cases where there was a connection to the most violent group or gang connected to a murder. These things are all connected. But that's the point so we're all of the things that need to change in order for us to prevent violence and remove the effects of systemic racism. Not Not just from criminal justice for more economy from health from housing and for more democracy itself. Senator Warren is that a substantial answer from their judge. You have to own up to the facts and it's important to own up to the facts about how race has totally permeated our criminal justice system for the exact same joins. What was it like to be there can you you just give us like you know the vibe the feeling just give us a four one one? It was in Manchester New Hampshire there obviously national local media. People don't understand as well That that part of New Hampshire's part of the Boston market so there is a lot of Boston media so I I got a lot of colleagues which is great but in the end and I think what I got from talking to people and reporting and that Bernie Sanders is by far consistently very likely. We're GONNA win this well. I mean I'm not making predictions but that's what people are saying and a lot of that has to do with Interestingly his outreach with connects voters am I right even you have yes. You're absolutely right in one of the things that I had an opportunity to connect with Jeff Weaver Weaver in the Spin Room. He's sanders a senior adviser because that Friday There was a release by the UCLA. Latino Policy See in politics initiative that look at voting data from Iowa and it showed that Sanders won over half of the vote in Iowa's top thirty ready to high density Latino caucus locations so basically thirty two sites. Were there are a lot of Latinos in each of those sites so I asked weaver whereafter. The debate on Friday like about the study and whether this was a strategy for the sanders campaign and this is what he told me early on in the process. we reach out to Latino voters both in Iowa and in Nevada. We've been reaching out as well to Latino voters in California and other states during the last campaign we saw tremendous explosion support for Senator Sanders among Latino voters all across this country. I think that his own immigrant story connects with Latino voters I think in many ways Senator Sanders talks about the America. Sure that people who came to this country thought they were coming to and it's an aspirational community. That I think really you know They really like Senator Sanders Message. So Winning Latino voters a very important part of his primary a strategy. But let's be clear. You know. Latino voters largest racial minority now in the United States of America typically underrepresented represented in the general election pool voters and we think Senator Sanders strengthened. The general election will be able to bring out a large numbers of Latino Voters Latino Support Maria as a political journalist. When I was looking at the cycle again and I know about you but when Sanders announced again there was a little but like why? Are you doing this right. But there's a lot of Latino and Latina support for Bernie Sanders in places not just this California like eight is an explicit strategy. And I'm seeing that loyalty in a lot of places and it's real so I just need to step back and sort of like the reporting I've done. I was skeptical. But I'm Kinda saying now it's like I think we shouldn't take it for granted. I I think it's real. I think it's fascinating. Actually you know when you think about the fact that the Latino Latina voter is perceived to be socially conservative somewhat what but politically progressive. But then you also know that twenty five. Let's say percent that's a rough Latina's voted for trump You've got this strong. Evangelical thing going on that is very anti abortion but at the same time you've got this really intense radical radical wing of Latino Progressive Politics that comes from Latin. America is a part of the experience of Latin America. And what I want to know is like who in Bernie campaign like really understood this and crystallized it and said we've got to get the ground game first of all from what from talking to the centers campaign and talking to people have been covering it and also just I voters in general. It's younger. It's definitely younger. And what you're seeing is like. Yeah these younger like let next like voters who are telling their like parents will meet Bernie but you have to say one of the senior advisors to the campaign his name is Chuck Rocha and Chuck is from Texas. He's Latino he is part of the inner circle what he told me via twitter. And there's reporting on this as well as that. It's not being seen as a separate thing. You know what I'm saying like Latino campaign strategy is not separate. It's not like a little like you know you have your main campaign. Oh and here's the Latino outreach it's integrated into the private years weaver who is a white liberal man. Give me an answer so quickly. Like he didn't even know who this reminds me of. What Matt Dowd Remember Matt Dowd? who was the chief? Strategist for For George W Bush and all he did was to you. Think about how to get the Latino Latina vote which George W did at about thirty thirty five percent and he did very well a super super good and if you have that and you understand it and integrated it can in fact be the difference. Here's something interesting. You know my Latina Women's group they have this fascinating. What's up going through all the debates bates and towards the end surprise surprise many of them were saying that they were liking clovinger? I was going to say that that was the big takeaway of my reporting on Friday and also following why she did first of all I think Loescher did a fantastic job like fantastic well. She was very strong strong. I mean here's the thing you could say what you want. Everyone went after Bernie about like the question about. Oh it's a socialist and everyone kind of backed off and Bernie did a really good job like And he's doing a good job and let you gotta be on us. He was consistent. I mean people are fawning all firm on Morning Joe Joe Scarborough right now is like fawning it over him. So that's like Doodoo right but amy Klobuchar did really well at least saying hey. I don't stand for socialism or or Democratic Socialism. So I'm going to give you a different option listening to this about meeting the moment and my first thought is. I'm a fresh face up here for a presidential -sential debate and I figure that fifty nine my age is the new thirty eight up here. The second thing I think about is this and then is there. You go meeting the moment meeting the moment. We had a moment the last few weeks mayor. And that moment with these impeachment hearings and and there was a lot of courage that you saw from only a few people. There was courage from Doug Jones our friend of Alabama. Who took that tough? Oh there was range. There was courage from Romney who took a very very difficult. Though there was I read today about the tenant curnow curnow intimate and being escorted out of the White House when he took her it. But like you said Pete as you're campaigning through Iowa as three of us where jurors in that impeachment hearing you said it was exhausting to watch and that you want it to turn the channel and watch cartoons it is easy to go after Washington because because that's a popular thing to do. It is much harder as I see centers chicane in the front row such a leader. It is much harder to lead and much harder to take those difficult positions. Because I think this going after every single thing that people do because it's popular to say and makes you look like a cool new cover over I just. I don't think that's what people want right now. We have a newcomer in the White House. And look where it got us. I think having an any closure if you look has been tracking walking has been trending up the last couple of days in New Hampshire. That's all everyone's talking about. And what's crazy about this all media in Massachusetts and New Hampshire gotTa Remember That Elizabeth Warren is a Massachusetts senator and she had Massachusetts like elected officials. There who knows where she goes but watch out for Amy Klobuchar I on primary night on Tuesday. Night in New Hampshire. That's all I'M GONNA say. Thank you for doing that. For driving across state lines. It was not that far. It's only an hour and ten minutes. You know who's great. So that's that's why I'm saying thank you for doing. You're like yeah. Yeah like I do that all the time. It was good. I also checked out colleges for my son so I turned it into I was like well. Maybe you should go here. Play soccer but listen. I WANNA turn a little bit to the primary race in New Hampshire which we said is. Is this Tuesday so while I was there on Friday before the debate repeat I had the chance to interview our good friend. He's kicking butt for. CBS News as a political correspondent. Ed O'Keefe Ed has been on in the thick before we both know very well just because people are going to be like. Wait Eto Keith. Yeah he's Latino okay his family's from Central America and he's always consistently reported on the community and is doing it for CBS right now. He's doing a fantastic job so it was funny because I looked like a podcast guy because I had no no makeup or anything like Ed shows up. And he's about to go on television like in an hour and he looks fantastic but I met him at a local hotel lobby which is basically the debate bait headquarters of all the media and everyone who was. Everyone was in that hotel in the lobby so I asked him. I asked Ed where New Hampshire stands in the shadow of the Iowa caucus chaos. Because like you said Mighty New Hampshire is even whiter than Iowa. According to the census that's ninety three percent white and it's a state still with a lot of significant political power. No major party nominee in modern American history has won without coming first or second in New Hampshire's there's primary which is wow so I asked ed about the PC vote and this is what he told me. I don't think we can assess whether this whole diversity argument women was as valid or even more valid than it has been in the past this time until we see how many African Americans Latino Americans is Asian American show up in bigger states where they actually can throw it elections either way and demonstrate that they were the deciding factor. There is evidence because of the work that they were doing that on the margins the micro targeting the sanders campaign did in Iowa towards Latino households in places like Des Moines Muscatine actually probably saved them from placing definite second. But that won't be an issue here in New Hampshire and we'll see how everything plays out going forward in Nevada and South Carolina And you know the I think the other thing to keep in mind is as you know as you talk about all the time. We are not monolithic. Black voters aren't necessarily monolithic. Either and so you know they're gonNA WANNA be with the winner and if Bernie or Buddha jets comes out of New Hampshire and wins uh-huh what's GonNa Stop Black Latino voters from looking at them and saying okay. Look you may come from a very white part of the country but on paper. You've done this or that Ed or you've said this or that or you've done these things and I'm okay with that because ultimately last I checked like one hundred point. Five percent of Democrats wanted to feet president president trump at all costs and so if the party ultimately pick somebody. They're going to go with that person. So talk to me about mayor the buzz since so you literally went from Iowa to like New Hampshire. You're on the trail and there is momentum before the primary like the Boston Globe poll like he jumped twelve points which was incredible. Let's talk to me about what you saw in the last Week since Iowa. He's made the point that you know. There's a lot of intrigue for him. A lot of interest that existed in Iowa paid off barely but it paid off and that he had to put points on the board to start convincing. Everybody else and I know from having talked to New Hampshire voters not just Democrats but independence too because remember member in New Hampshire. Independents can jump in on this and they have said. I'm intrigued by this theory or the concept of thirty eight year old small town mayor. Our military veteran who yes sold by the way is married to a man and if he can do it in Iowa. And if you can do it in New Hampshire you know He. He may be unstoppable at least until he hits the Mike Bloomberg brick wall and it's similar to what Obama used to say which is just vote for me and helped me win and the skepticism episode will disappear. So I think the surge here in New Hampshire in the days leading up to the primaries driven by that and I said we're okay with this and so they're going to say well maybe we are too and look at what's going on in Washington as this caucus and primary season plays out you have all these. Old Politicians wins literally acting like children in some cases swearing at each other questioning their faith ripping up documents in front of their faces and he was thirty eight year. Old fresh-faced guy out here who reminds voters by the way that every time Democrats have won the White House in the last fifty years. They've done it with a fresh face. WHO's younger and hasn't spent much? It's time for if any in Washington and I think a lot of them are just go. Oh He's got a point so he's hammering that now in New Hampshire. Yeah and he also in this state more within an Iowa can hammer his military service. This this is a state with a high level Compared to others of active military service and then veterans and so having the endorsement of a group vote vets which is a popular veterans organization and having them out actively campaigning on his behalf is a huge huge asset. That he didn't play up as much in Iowa But he definitely can to his advantage here. So New Hampshire is GONNA matter. Where does this go next? I I mean obviously the the primary is on Tuesday but like how big is a win in New Hampshire and then is it going to be seeing sort of the classic momentum if you start looking at pre or what what do you think that necessarily because merge incredible operations in Iowa and Hampshire but less so in those other states he's spent considerable amount of time in South Carolina to try to boost is numbers with black people but not as much necessarily Nevada whereas sanders inviting especially have spent a Lotta time there and so it could be a real test for Buddha. The judge coming out of New Hampshire to sort of say you know does. My win helped me in Nevada and South Carolina where Mike is going to have to hustle over the few days that remain between between the two states to actually get something done and it'll be Biden's last opportunity if he can't make it happen in Nevada and South Carolina ten. Pack it up because ran out of money I mean last reports said he only had nine million dollars. That's like Jeb Bush level problems for you there in her because a member Bush came out of the twenty sixteen campaign big name recognition Asian. Look good on. Paper was doing well and pulling for awhile but then suddenly couldn't raise any money when he got South Carolina and lost. He had to drop out because he had nothing left. Could Happen Abidin as well. So so it's critical for everyone but certainly whoever emerges from here. Victoria's especially if it sanders Goes into the next two in very good shape. The question though. Thanks to Mike. Bloomberg is who really is viable in fourteen big big states on March third and who can afford to continue racing to that into those contests in California alone Texas North Carolina Georgia Arkansas Alabama Mississippi Virginia Bunch of states stay tuned northeast. Very few people can afford to do that. Bernie Sanders is one of my bloomers definitely other and maybe but only if he keeps winning. I mean what what he's saying it's it's hard to hear in some ways because he's saying like unless Y'all show up there's a certain level of irrelevancy. Yeah I you you have to show up you. You have to show up and it's going to be with your body. It's going to be going and pulling that lever and I think that that's it's a very important takeaway like we can talk all we want. But if you're not registered and you're not showing up then all his you know who cares right first of so. I just need to step back money. Because he's so damn smart he's on the campaign trail he understands the complexities of this. The fact that I can ask him that question in a place where it's New Hampshire. I'm he knew right. He knew that it. It's not just like ninety three percent white and and their pockets and I'm GonNa say this straight up money. If it wasn't for Latinos in Iowa Bernie Sanders would not have gotten the delegates and probably would've finished a distant second in the delegate count if you look at the study that was a strategy. And that's why he did so well in Iowa. Ed O'Keefe did say something. Yeah regarding Buddha judge that I just WANNA say he said yeah all good until he hits the Mike Bloomberg brick wall yeah So Mr Jones you know who is with Trans Lash media. One of our one of our all star said people are not talking about my Bloomberg. It's the only thing that's going to be talked about in a month breath or less so I just wanted to put that out there and ed it's got a good sense of it and I was just happy to connect to them journalists journalists and I. It's just really good. That we have a smart Latino Latina and journalists of color who are working in the mainstream there are few and far between but the ones who are there You know go to do that. Work because getting in those stories on the air where they're able to analyze the pse vote is also really really hard. Julio and I'm here with Eric Dill what's up. Hey Julio what's up is that I am feeling threatened because I'm wearing my favorite theater native. It's an essential if you want to be fresh all day long. Of course I know you love native because it's entirely Vegan with ingredients you've heard of before like coconut oil and tape butter and it actually works. And that's the great thing about native. It comes in ten cents. My favorite is coconuts and Vanilla. I feel like a Pina collided during the day and it lasts all day long so for all you listeners. For twenty percent off your first purchase visit native Deodorant Dot Com and use Promo code in the VIC during checkout and there's no risk trying it because native offers free returns and exchanges if you're in the US so again for twenty percent off your first purchase visit native deodorant dot com use Promo code the thick during checkout so before the debate last Friday. I love this. This is awesome moment. Can I say like this is something that you get a group of nine New Hampshire. Latino Latina political organizers and leaders. We're all GONNA get together at a Mexican restaurant in Manchester New Hampshire hello. I'm so happy that we're going to be able to share some of the conversations that you had add so Eliahu who is e e was participating in the nineteen sixty eight Mexico City student protests. Yup Alright all right so no spring chicken. But he's still out there. He came to the United States thirty years ago. And I love the way that he told you that. He got involved in New Hampshire politics because of the rise of white supremacy in his town of Hudson and so he helped to form better relations between the police and the Latino community as a result. He's the chair of the Latino Caucus of the Democratic Party of the State of New Hampshire so go Alejandro early handroll. Let's hear what you have to say. So all the campaigns has been talking with me because they want to our reach into the Latino community but at the same time than they dog with me I believe they don't really see the power of the Latino community totally no there. We say looks like for Song campaigns than is something that is really need to be invested because we are yourself you and that is a big mistake because we are not a yes the number you who compare the number of Latinos with all their estates. Yes we are but we can make the difference and also how we vote. have an impact on Outside of New Hampshire so for example with these. Bob Are happy now In the car because what happened is what is growing here is going to have much more impact. What is happening is now on the last moment I have seen gene more activity Tober to reach the Latinos? No they are not really working well that there is a lot of composite materials in Spanish. Somebody told me the other day. Do you know Latinos are there is. They are America's sees as opposed to speak English. Speaking list is a process. Anita roses awesome take time and that is not the same to speak. It'd be able to around and speak about something that understand profoundly political campaign so he's insane that this campaigns and they are not they are not giving materials in the Spanish. See something that really made me mad. Yeah Alejandro will. His story is incredible. Let me just say one thing about this conversation which I talked to them for fifty minutes. I'm actually GONNA try to edit it and put it up on one of our Fudo media properties because it's too good conversation but at the same time we wanted to share some of the highlights so besides Alejandro which I was like just just to see him I was like with history and then it's like you're not giving this to me in Spanish. I'm angry I was just like go. Alejandro Ruth Yeah. Because you're out there in New Hampshire Mexican second man Jesus fantastic but another person that I truly loved around the table. Her name was Alexander Rodriguez Murray and she talked talked about the dangers of Whitewashing New Hampshire so Alexander she's the regional organizer for a group called writes in democracy. She's an immigration activist from Miami but her family moved to New Hampshire when she was five years old. Her Mom is an immigrant from Nicaragua and she remembers the time when when her mom became a citizen and her dad is a first generation Russian immigrant from Scotland. So let's take a listen to what she had to say and New Hampshire because it's so small we have a greater opportunity for democracy and to be able to represent our solves. Our state houses like the largest body of Representatives in the world I think proportionally and our communities are small on close together. So it's harder for people to be racist when they have to see you every day and I just think there's a big opportunity movie here in the state for us to like game power and control and be able to you know pass legislation. We need and want because it's just easier for us to get those positions and also me Hampshire accepts. A large amount of refugees and immigrants and national on Manchester are incredibly diverse cities. And it's kind of whitewashing to just say like Oh. The whole state is White Latinos. Tina's aren't here one. There really is like a big percentage in certain places so props to New Hampshire but actually it's the third largest parliamentary tree representation in the world not the first. But you got a New Hampshire. I thought it was fascinating. What she said about the whole like it's small? Oh and you can't. It's like if you're going to be raised. I want to be right there. It's just like you can't hide. I think that's why in the thick is such an important part of people's lives across the country country because we actually recognize that. You're they're doing this work. You are not invisible to us and the people listened to us are interested in learning more about you outbreak. Like what what are you doing. Why because these are distinctly American stories so there was this other really great person that you met? Its Panos Enrica Cardona. He's LGBTQ Puerto Rican organizer in New Hampshire in two thousand seven at the age of nineteen. He became the youngest elected official in the state. He's now the chairman of Lakonia Democrats and he's been canvassing for Bernie Sanders catalyst moved to New Hampshire when he was fifteen from Massachusetts when he became homeless check this out he was an LGBTQ CO chair for Obama in two thousand and eight and lately. He's gotten quite a bit of media attention because he is hosted the nearly thirty Democratic candidates in his house by coming to my house having food at my house Hosting people in the yard up to nine hundred people one event and really. There's a fine line between pandering and of course there's feeling the pain of our ethnicity of our culture and our struggle. You know we're not just it's not about race for us is about the struggle of being Latin And coming from places where poverties beyond something that we in America cannot understand so really. It's for us to teach which I feel that we've been doing a really a good job but there's very few candidates that I feel truly understand not just making material in Spanish and pandering but also truly learning about our culture in the process for me me. I felt that the minute that it was it came down to about Puerto Rico. I felt that nobody could speak more about the colony status of Puerto Rico Than Bernie me sanders. So when I when I got to know him I never really thought I was GonNa Fall in love with him. As a candidate. Hillary support in two thousand sixteen at which I knows shocking to a lot of people but when he started talking about Puerto Rico the way I know Puerto Rico that is to be land that is to know our heritage that is to know Oh our culture and our struggles what we face some of US face death threats. Some of US have phase domestic violence abuse. These are real struggles in Latin America. So I want candidates that really understand not just print material pander to us but actually understand the struggles that we suffer. You know what I love about. Godless is that he embodies intersection your sexuality yes and the focusing on class so rare we bring it up a lot. Let me tell you about Carlos really quick so he he showed up about a half hour before and I showed up a half hour before. Because I don't want to sit up. Check out the space. So first of all I said we're the to Puerto Ricans that come to things early and he started telling me his story before and I was like blown away by by what he said and I just couldn't believe like people need to understand one thing about New Hampshire. Lakonia is trump country country. And here you have this teenage gay. Puerto Rican man who won and just clarify Carlos Twenty nine years is old now he just emanates confidence and just leadership and power but my Maria the last thing. This is the the thing that I felt at the near the end of the conversation. That just like really when I was recording it and people around the table like everyone paused and it was. What's Sebastian point this who sanders delegate as well he shared and he's approving immigrant who is undocumented until two thousand and sixteen? I'm going to be the only one at this table. Be Brave enough to. I want to express my gratitude to president trump for one reason and one reason only stable you know. We have a younger generation unreachable. Now getting involved in New Hampshire also Latinos. You don't see that often. He has messed up his Gorman so much that he brought up a whole different generation getting in both Alexandra young you know young activists myself manny people running for office. I respect on the next election for the New Hampshire area is going to the More people like US running. So that's something that I believe. You missed up blue. You got into you know multiple you know by now. We say that a lot and I do think that there is something that happens. When you're I mean? Our lives are impacted by politics. And when that happens things like for me in this this country it started with Nixon and the impeachment and the Vietnam War Watergate. You know all of that just touched me and even shaped you yeah. I wasn't a citizen but yeah I became distinctly involved politically and that never change. So these are the historical moments that will change people's lives and that that conversation in New Hampshire has fueled me again in like you hopeful it made me hopeful and I just want to say it you you have all these people are like we understand this New Hampshire but this is our state and we're going to try to help it and we're GonNa try to impact it and I'm like good for you one last thing. I want to say about this I I need to personally. Thank New Hampshire State Representative Mantius. beat the forgetting all these voices together I literally. Dm a week ago and said. Hey I'm coming up and really I WANNA talk to leaders thank you manny manny incredible story. He's from southern California. He identifies US Shikano. He came to New Hampshire to work for the Hillary Clinton campaign in two thousand in fifteen and southern California. Boy He stays in the state. Like the coldest flippant state in America after the two thousand sixteen primarily takes exchanges. You're like we said he said I'm GonNa bring some people he's like. I thought it was going to be like three Maria. Nine people showed up to record nine people. You know what I mean. It's hard and record them while you're eating duck goes which you say. We're legit are they. Were awesome well thank you for that. Update it before we end though what the Oscars okay I just had to. What some seventies do we used to watch the Oscars because of the political shit that was gonNA come down on the Oscar size late sets off you guys parasite one parasite won a non English film? I I like to thank everybody. Who's been supporting parasite and who's been working with parasite and who's been loving parasite? I it really really really want to thank our Korean film. Audience are movie goers who's been really supporting all our movies and never hesitated to give us straights for opinion on what they feel like. They're movies and made really never able to be complacent and kept pushing the directors. The creators keep pushing the envelopes envelopes. And without you our Korean feel margins we are not here. Thank you very much I know but I was asleep by them and I'm really the happy that that happened but I'm just like out. Do there's one more thing you guys. Yeah happy anniversary to us. Happy anniversary to us because we are four years old yeah. 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Moscow Mitch

Mueller, She Wrote

32:32 min | 1 year ago

Moscow Mitch

"This <music> hello and welcome to the daily beans for Wednesday July thirty first two thousand nineteen today we talk about privileged families taking advantage of a loophole to steal grants from students in need a police shooting case underway. That's getting no coverage California Governor Gavin newsom signs of the new law requiring the release of presidential tax returns for the primaries the first night of the debates and Moscow Mitch. I'm your host A._G.. And with me today or Julius Johnson enjoyed Cockburn Hello Hey guys. How're you guys doing good well? How are you? I'm well as well well. Thank you yeah we did Beach Dog Day Dog Beach Today and <hes> so we've got some sun so I'm feeling a little tired and <hes> and <hes> and then <hes> we cleaned our house today so that's nice and so then I felt it was necessary as probably take a shower because I was so grubby that I felt uncomfortable in my clean house. Else was a good day to get out. I'm glad you got to the beach. I was biking around the Neighborhood Beautiful Day yeah yeah. It was nice so thanks for that weather for San Diego. We pay high rents for that so I'm glad we got it for a little bit. WE ARE SMACK DAB in the middle of the debates and we record before they err so we're going to add so. We're going to do our news and then we're GONNA take break. Watch the debates. I'm gonNA live tweet them. At the at daily beans pod not the daily beans at daily Jelly Beans pod. I keep getting that messed up <hes> and then after that <hes> I'm going to record like a wrap up of of the debates gates and we'll stick at the end of the show so you make your show a little bit late tonight. Patrons sorry about that. It's still going to come out in the morning for everybody else. <hes> do you guys have any ideas about who's GonNa win. Even before we start wars no Brown who said Warren Yeah Cool I agree <hes> there's no brown candidates right commas tomorrow Yeah Julia and Yeah Yeah Yeah Definitely going for Warren. I think warrants GONNA win today. Yeah me too. I Agree Warren Yeah. I'm hoping Buddha judge can have a stronger showing this time. He was pretty strong strong in the first one but I I would like for him to really come pulled out about race sort of thing. That's kind of what I'm looking for to <hes> Oh can appropriately address yeah. I wouldn't even know how to do that so I hope someone's on how to do it or watch in the hopes that he will handle it gracefully incorrectly yeah and I was thinking like some of the fringe candidates that aren't really making waves should just come out and say I'm the only thing I'm running on an to unseat trump. That's the only reason I'm doing an F. Russia in a yeah and not know homophobic way right just in. I don't feel like doing tonight way true and I I really think I I just wanted that other but you know I I really think that okay. I just feel like they have to do something me. No major or noteworthy or something and that's something no one's tried yet. Everyone's trying to run on the issues. No one's running against trump except maybe Tom Steiner yeah but he's not even on the debate stage. No one's running. I mean motions like Ooh there could be like a catchphrase like they're running on the issues and not the tissues Oh you know they should that address like the racist comments recently in the fact that Republicans are saying it's not racist like we need to apparently go back into finally racism right because everyone's sort of nitpicking picking can Joe Biden for example about his bussing answer and <hes> about the crime bill and unintended consequences of that three strikes rule how we have so many non violent criminals in prison in most most of them are people of Color and disenfranchise people who then again don't have the right to vote anymore because of all that and then here we have dude in the White House telling people people who color to go back to the shit holes they came from and it's like I understand that you want Democrat against Democrat in the primaries but I want some candidate to just stand up and say are are you missing the bigger picture we have a racist rapist exchange that middle letter for whatever you like in the White House and <hes> and we need to beat him the end in policies are important of course but I do crave that to someone just address. The Big Grace's elephant in the room. You know like just call it out and then go on with Your Plans Republican Elephant Nice Warren go on with your plans because I mean policies are nice but none of it matters unless we get trump out of the White House totally yeah so. Do you feel like they're going to stray away from asking them a lot of explicitly race-based space questions just because there are no representation of any people of color like adults tomorrow question but I I do think they will probably ask like Bernie and and Warren like what are you going to do for voters of color or people of color because the kind of and Buddha judge especially because they need to prove that there's like zero people people of color for Buddha judge and not very many at all for sanders and so that's something that they would have to rectify there was a poll that came out Quinnipiac poll that came out trump trump eighty six percent of black Americans will not vote for trump. Thank God so four percent said they would yeah. I met one of those guys Yeah Yeah with the Baltimore comets to I mean they really could address some very relevant things right now. Just briefly it does seem a little bit weird to me though that it's kind of like nick asking a question that would warrant the perspective of a person of color to check things. They might say up there yeah tonight too so n._F._l.. Obvious Kala did a really good job of that the last time where she said as you know the only woman of color exaggerate now. I'd like to address your question about racism right right exactly so it's weird that they won't even have anybody that could even provide that actual perspective Combi let you finish energies have a personal. There's no colleges run across the stage every once just this week or that would just make everyone feel small insignificant. I never run and we're going to end the conversation before starting emails. You guys have a lot of news to get to so let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes notes all right guys. Let's kick off the hot notes with a story from PROPUBLICA. What good journalism they have here they about privileged families exploiting exploiting a loophole Jordan? What did the journalists at Propublica fine yes so it's in Propublica Illinois specifically? They're uncovering that there's a group of wealthy individuals individuals basically they're. They're on a cohort or anything. It just happens to be wealthy white people presumably I don't want to say I'll white people but kind of kind of people <hes> that are using the loophole of essentially letting their kids in their junior and senior year of high school <hes> effectively not be independence anymore so they can file for financial aid as an independent which is giving them themselves or whatever I don't know I hesitated to say emancipate because I don't know if it's exactly Manson patient the process says that they're going through but there are transferring them over to a grandparent or an aunt or someone that doesn't somewhere on social security or whatever that doesn't have the kind of money that their parents have right right so they're claiming themselves as being financially independent and because of that they're getting all of these extra grants scholarships resources because they're doing that and they've gone through and seeing that there's been a lot of cases between January twenty eighteen and now it's like over forty cases or something of this and this is just in Illinois and the people some of the parents are doctors their lawyers there one is like an assistant superintendent so these are not low income come families in a lot of The suburban high school called someone out of university who had sent an invitation to one of their high school students. That's about to go to their school an invitation into an event that specifically tailored for low income students and they were like this person is not low income. Why did they get this invitation and they said Oh we'll because they're they're on our list of people that are basically like struggling financially and see I couldn't get aid because my parents made too much money <hes> and <music>? I'm totally fine with that because this aid is finite. It's capped so if you are getting it someone else's not and it's different from the V._A.. Because a lot of a lot of veterans are like I don't want to sign up for my V._A.. Benefits because I could be taking away benefits from somebody has worse off than me but that's not how the V._A.. Benefits work. It's not like Pie. Everyone is entitled to if they are disabled <hes> in whatever way to get their compensation for that but this is a finite pot of money and and it's it reminds me of there's two things here first of all that sucks because it's a finite pot of money and it reminds me of that movie Solman Oilman where he took a bunch of tanning pills to odd to look like he was black and scholarship for a black student before the black girl who fell in love with I'm found out about it. She was mad and he couldn't figure it out until she explained. I was up for that scholarship and I didn't get it because they gave it to you at the last minute Jeez and so the I mean this isn't that particular situation but he kind of is and the second thing. This is why education this is. Why wish needs to be lowered? There's why education needs to be cheaper. If we look at the larger picture here people are cheating and fighting to get an education that should be afforded all of us at no cost yeah I don't at least at a lower cost right and I don't I agree Lina <unk>. I definitely do not doubt that some of these families that are doing this legitimately need more aid schools are so fucking expensive yeah and the threshold isn't high hi. It's not like if you're a millionaire you know it's my parents who were you know blue collar workers a steelworker and a Kent County or Asto no county clerk recorder working to maybe middle class jobs and they made too much money for me to get financial aid so yeah. It's it's. It's it's it's complicated and it's weird for everyone. The core of this problem is the massive expense of college and the huge debt that we end up in at the end of it <hes> <hes> regardless but this is also a shit. It's a Dick move is a dick move but again yeah. It's like sort of I I mean we could talk about it forever rattling. It's a huge dig move and I bet there are people that one hundred percent could easily pay for it and they're just just the there. Were a few that that you're like. I don't know the percentage manager. Whatever but <hes> also this week <hes> Julie's a big story? That's getting small coverage involving police shooting here in Oklahoma on yes so <hes> this was because in two thousand sixteen eighteen Alfred along go was shot and killed by police officer in Oklahoma named Richard Gonzales and this week the trial of the only trial that made it to court regarding his incident and began and it was filed by his wife daughter and sister Lucy who witnessed her brother's death and along those death or I'm sorry Orlando's death and the filming of it brought San Diego uh-huh into the spotlight of the black lives matter movement which is why it's Kinda weird that this trial hasn't gotten a lot of media attention but supposedly the lawyers on both sides don't want to taint the jury pool. Change your favorite word yeah but <hes> I think it needs attention I do yeah we did get some some attention when it happened at least here in San Diego go I don't know how it was received across the country but yeah because he was having a mental health issues and and we've actually done a couple of things since then to ensure and in fact <hes> <hes> our <hes> marketing manager -sarily Steiner is is working on a program to be at these responses when cops are called and there is a she's a less clinical social social worker and there is somebody with mental health issues so that they don't face this because I think he had a vape pen with him and they thought it was a gun he pulled it out and point. It was a gun but he was going through a breakdown. Yeah yeah sister was like He. He's not dangerous. He's just having you know. He's he's having a mental breakdown he needs he needs help. Helping US healthcare. He needs mental health care and this shouldn't happen and <hes> you know. I'm I'm. I'm interested to see how this trial goes. Does <hes> so you know. We're definitely GONNA keep our eye on it but I I felt like it needed a little more coverage definitely getting sorry by tainted jury. I don't think I will I think <hes> the reporter who's been covering this. Her name's Bianca Bruno yes. She's I think a local reporter too but she is the one who tweeted about this and you've got a lot of attention and yeah I really cool it. She's following this and just needs more attention. That's all yeah. We'll definitely keep your. We'll keep you posted its. I mean the trials already happening so it should be over the week next week. Yeah so <hes> stick around <hes> next week and we'll tell you what's going on with that and then guys this week California governor our Governor Gavin newsom has signed a law that will make Donald Trump ineligible for California's primary ballot next year unless he discloses. I think six years of his tax returns five years of his stature to a lot of the tax returns federal tax returns the law took effect Tuesday and it will spark a high profile court cases trump's lawyer. Jay seculow has has promised to sue many feel if it succeeds it could set a precedent for other states to put weird requirements on candidates <hes> I don't see it that way because you and I have had this discussion about court cases and the precedents they sat got in how they're not blanket precedent. It's more specifically about tax returns. In the California state primary. I kind of wish that he would have done state tax returns in order to run in the state primary. It might have been a little more secure as a lawsuit because I'm all for this. I'm all for the transparency and you know because people were uh-huh. Oh what about Dem's I'm like all dems disclosing their tax returns and cool and yes and I want this transparency but yeah you also have to be careful. People think it might right encroach on the constitution that says you only have two three these three criteria to run for president but that is the federal election that is the federal general election and not California primary. We run our own primary. Hi Mary so we'll see how it turns out in court. I texted Renato Mariotti about it. <hes> that's <hes> the host of the on topic podcast former Federal Prosecutor cuter and he says it's a complicated issue. If it's an additional qualification added by the state it's unconstitutional because you can't add additional qualifications to be president but there's is a very good argument that it isn't a qualification because anyone could meet it just by releasing. It's just like forcing candidates to turn in signatures to be on the ballot that makes sense. Another issue is whether it curtails the First Amendment Rights Have Republicans. <hes> does the law tell them how they must pick their own nominees. It's complicated. No one knows for sure her <hes>. I don't know what the G._O._P.. Do in response personally. I'm all for transparency so that's what Renato says I concur with Renato Sergei response. What if they didn't file their taxes they should all have their taxes right but with that somehow make them not like all eligible? If someone's like I ain't got it broke the law aw yeah yeah so. Let's find out because I remember there. Was this headline I saw in this on this topic that said it might affect some other candidates but I didn't read it yet. I'm just curious about what they can mean by by that. Yeah I don't know what do you think do you do. They should be forced to release their tax returns to be on the primary ballot. <hes> I mean I also I'm just a fan of the transparency and I don't really see what someone truly stands to lose by doing it unless they're already a criminal kind of course or someone. That's kind of one of those things where I don't think it's like a huge invasion of privacy really and I've noticed it. Most Republicans think that we want this so that we can prove he's not a billionaire but but that is actually has nothing to do with it. First of all we already know is not a billionaire and we got We want to see if he's beholden to any enemies. That's basically it and you know what is he laundering money is he is. He not paying his taxes is he. Is he dodging taxes. Those are important things for Americans to know I think especially since we already have all these breadcrumbs about how many times he's claimed bankruptcy and all of these things so it's like I would just I would love how yes he's still sits. There totes this image as like the wealthiest man in America to see how oh you got to point B yeah. It should be interesting and one last thing late breaking last night in New York federal judge dismissed the D._N._C.'s lawsuit which sought to hold the trump campaign and wikileaks liable for the Russian election hacks <hes>. I'm not mad about this dismissal. Basically the the judge was citing the first amendment and this goes back to when assange assange we found out assange was brought up on charges of espionage for his two thousand ten dissemination of what Chelsea Manning stall and the difference is is he didn't he but he helped steal it right did he then he should be charged for that but he shouldn't be charged for the dissemination or obtaining it <hes> because that's what journalists do whether whether he whether you want to call him a legit journalist or not that's not defined by the law you'd have to do that and now we're parsing things that could set precedents <hes> <hes>. I think that you know if you if you help steal the the shit. If you hack the shit then you should be charged it was the Russians hacked and they were charged if you receive it and disseminate it if muller mugune comes in to your Ecuadorian Cat Chamber and hand you a thumb drive with a bunch of hacky females on it if you receive it and disseminate that actually shouldn't be illegal it treads a little bit on the First Amendment and I not for that <music> so I'm I'm okay with this dismissal. Yeah me too totally all right well that was easy arguments from the peanut gallery. I think there is something to be further looked into in litigated <hes> because it's like it's still something still doesn't sit right though right that like wikileaks could walk away for that entire situation squeaky-clean but it might just be the case that that's how it has to be for us to uphold First Amendment Rights Yeah agreed. We have to really protect host so do they have like <hes> like a wikipedia style donation thing on their page because people could boycott that you need some kind of consequence consequences if it works the same way otherwise we would just go in and I'll change the pages and money. It's free speech same argument Ron Paul Offspring just keeping that sign alive libertarian funded one hundred percent gosh all right guys. It's time for a social media call to action all right so an OP ED in Washington Post. This Week is making Turtle Dick Mitch Super Sad and the story says Mitch is standing by trump up in refusing to lift a finger to defend against Russian election interference in two thousand twenty because trump can make or break any other legislation Mitch Might WanNa Pass. He doesn't seem to want to bring anything to the floor for a vote these days the Washington Post article didn't even mention the two point five million dollars McConnell accepted from lend Levada Nick nor did they mention <hes> his Deripaska reach around when he voted to lift sanctions on the oligarch so he could get a giant Russian aluminum plant in his home state and no homosexual shaming on the reach around. That's just a friendly gift a- anyone can reach around. Yes exactly thank you. I just wanted to combination yeah those emails though not not a homophobic comment just a favor but regardless of those things not being being mentioned in Wapo trump called the Washington Post a Russian asset and this is a signal to me that someone is leaked some of the F._B._i.. Counter intelligence findings to trump saying he's an asset because his M._o.. Is that once he finds out he does something wrong. He accuses his opponent of doing the same thing. Yeah can't spill asset without mass asked hat Russian asset and morning Joe Morning Joe Joe Scarborough <hes> has coined the term Moscow Mitch and according to The Washington Post and now it's trending on twitter so please had to social media and keep Hashtag Moscow Mitch on the Charts I love that we should like do a little experiment and try to get a bill bill. That's pro Russia on the floor and C Mitchell vote for that like Russia is awesome bill. Go yes this is we are putting the bill forward that says we need to hand the overall of our internal polling data to the Kremlin. Oh yeah that's so curious about what she's a little test bill yeah yeah he'll be tempted. You know he will really sweaty betty. Yeah holy crap all right guys. We'll be right back in one second. Thanks for listening to the daily beans the new morning news podcast with swears if you sign up and become a patron and not only will you get ad free episodes are newsletter and research notes presale tickets for live shows patronage for our other podcasts muller she wrote and access to our private social media community but you also get the daily beans the night before it's released to the public plus your contribution goes towards health benefits for our staff that is until we elected Democrat and realize Medicare for all. Thanks again for listening and please subscribe wherever you get your podcasts daily be live lover. She wrote Hey. Hey guys welcome back. It's a g hear everyone's left <hes> we've finished watching the debates and I just have a couple of things I wanNA talk about really quickly first of all <hes> <hes> C._N._N.. Shouldn't do debates anymore. <hes> I really didn't like the way that they structured it. I didn't like their questions. Their questions were G._O._P.. Talking points for the for the most part <hes> you know for example when <hes> they were asking about whether they want you know. Did you want to decriminalize the border. You voted to decriminalize the border or whether they were asking people who wanted Medicare for all will you you know how do you feel about throwing <hes> union workers off their health insurance and it was just really <hes> contentious. I think they were trying to start fights. I don't appreciate it. I prefer <hes> the M._S._N._B._C. Format not much better and I think it went on a little bit too long. But of course there are ten candidates. It's hard to judge. I think there were two clear winners tonight. I think Buddha Judge Warren I thought Warren was going to run away with it. Buddha judge was really really amazing tonight as well <hes> so I'm just going to go through here. <hes> my quick ideas about each of the candidates that were on stage tonight I there was bullock. Oh look <hes> and there's no sex pistols. Album called never mind the bullocks and I think we can do that here. I think he's gone <hes> he got no applause after his closing statement sort sort of a centrist <hes>. I don't think he's going anywhere after this Marianne Williamson dark horse of the night super surprising Sherpur big lines were no walk hawkiness radical truth telling governing philosophy love wins <hes> we have to look at the causes and not the symptom she wants to talk about moral leadership. She's the one who can beat trump with that kind of <hes> philosophical leadership <hes> love governance situation and it was awesome to listen to her talk. I'm going to miss her. She did get applause has <hes> for her <hes> closing statements and she did get some wild applause when she started talking about <hes> environmental racism and how things like the Flint Water Crisis Listen <hes> climate change you know more like impact communities of color and disadvantaged communities more than they do the rest of us. She talked about how where she he grew up. In Grosse Pointe they would have never the flint water crisis would have never have happened there and that's just something that got a ton Bad with questions about race and racial racial issues in the country <hes> I think she'll stick around a little bit longer than the others. Marianne Williamson might hang out for a minute to because she did she did is really well tonight. But I think Delaney Tim Ryan Hickenlooper bullock or Gone Club. I think might stick around for a little bit but like I said she's still having a really hard time. <hes> <hes> answering questions about <hes> the racial injustices <hes> in America and that's probably going to be one of the major things that <unk> <hes> the twenty twenty campaign is about a bed. Oh did well but I wish he was running for Senate. I have big hopes for him but I think he's better for Texas than he would be for America so he he actually got a little applause on his closing statement there was there was silence for for quite a few of them. A Buddha judge like I said tied for the win knows zingers but he had some amazing <unk> moments first of all his moment on structural changes like making Washington D._C.. Estate giving them statehood so they can have proper representation in Congress and talking about restructuring the Supreme Court art so it's not political I think what he wants to do is add seats to it <hes> to be more representative of of the populace because it's been at nine seats for an our population has grown. I can't can't remember the numbers but it's crazy. We should have more people on the Supreme Court <hes> so I really like his structural ideas there to enter a lot of the problems in the country he's still having issues with the racial divides but he answered those questions much better this time than he did last time and but hit his moment was his address to Republicans in Congress risk it was so great he just looked at the camera and he said I have it right here. I wrote it down one second. He said <hes> he looked right in the camera when the sun sets on your career and they're writing your story the thing you'll be remembered for is whether in this moment with this president you found the courage to stand up to him or whether you continued to put party over country he got wild applause for that. It was a great line. It was a great moment for him <hes> so I appreciated that and then moving on to Warren Winner <hes> I think Lee tied for the winter she had plans she had details. She got interrupted a lot but I think it's because her plans are very comprehensive and she just didn't have the time with nine other people on stage to go through them or with the time restriction so hopefully in the next debate. She'll have a little more time. She had the line of the night. I thought when she just jumped right in and off the top of her head said I don't understand why anybody goes through all the trouble running for president of the United States just to talk about what we really can't do and what we shouldn't fight for and that was great. She got the applause of the night line in the night. It was fantastic. She got a good closing statement. She got big applause for it and and finally <hes> Bernie Sanders who was solid is angry and he was energized. <hes> he's on message. He hasn't changed his messaging. Since the sixties <hes> he had a good closing statement <hes> he got a lot of applause in multiple appro applause breaks in his closing statement so it feels like if I were just going by audience applause that M- that maybe baby sanders won the night but I really think that the <hes> the to look out for here we're Buddha Judge and Warren <hes> I might put him in a three away tie but I just think he was kind of repetitive. Although Warren repeated herself <hes> one or two times as well but for for good reason <hes> there was one one really funny moment I think he was talking to Tim rhianna bullock or one of the one of the Republicans on stage when he threw his hands up and whoever was arguing with him. I'm just going to throw your hands up. He goes yeah do it again and he threw his hands up. Everybody laughed. It was really funny. <hes> Warren might have made a tiny mistake and that might have put her down a notch. She would have been the clear winner. I think if she hadn't yelled at the audience <hes> she at some point she was trying to finish an answer about a personal story about a father of <hes> in a family who had <hes> L._S. and how they were struggling with pain your health care bills and they let's cut her off and ask a different question or ask another personal question. She responded to it and then I want to go back to talking about Eddie and the audience laughed and she got really mad at him and this isn't funny and I was like Whoa <hes> but you know I mean not me you know maybe that shows her fighting spirit spirit or her ability to be tough <hes> because I know the you know a lot of people with optics about <hes> you know can't a woman. Can we elect a woman president we did by the way twenty sixteen by several million votes but you know sometimes they gotta go out of their way to to prove that they're that they're tough but then of of course you have to walk that fine line as a women because you can be perceived as <hes> Schill or Bossier bitchy or whatever the fuck. I don't know it's it's terrible that we even have to have have those discussions at all. I don't think that we should <hes> can they shouldn't be considerations but anyway that is kind of blue little wrap up of my of the debates but I really don't like the way C._n._N.'s handling. I'm not looking forward to tomorrow night. I will watch it but I just don't like the way that they're posing the questions they seem. I don't know like they're trying to like. They're trying to pick fights between candidates and they're using G._O._p.. Talking points and we don't need that and <hes> you know warn brought that up on several occasions. Why are we even using G._O._P.? Talking points so I think you'll see that a lot when you watch the debate coverage but anyway <hes> that's my thoughts before even watched any any of the analysis on it. Those are just what I'm thinking so guys. I'M GONNA sign off right now. We're going to get to the wrap up of the show and I will see later all right guys. That's our show. How do you feel I feel good yeah? It was a nice day wasn't too bad. I thought it was going to be crazy. Tuesday Newsday there wasn't much it was just like wall-to-wall debate coverage emerge so we're able to <hes> pick out some of the other stories we thought would be important to you and bring them to you so thanks for that. Julia said that <hes> that's a really interesting. <hes> case that we're going to watch in Oklahoma and Oh yeah Jordan. Thanks for that that PROPUBLICA wow. I can't believe they uncovered that yeah. I'm sure it's asking every state. That's the other part of that stories. It's like being covered in Illinois that probably happening everywhere yeah that was still in there was already how many like over forty cases between January twenty eighteen and now crazy all right so <hes> vote blue and we won't have these issues to even worry about guys you have any final thoughts <hes> oh I have a correction from yesterday they <hes> about the Gilroy shooting the only found one shooter so far there was actually no confirmation of shooter yes so it's just one guy who actually might be a white supremacist because is there was a social media account that posted that seems to be on his behalf but I think it was posted after he died with people like freaked out about what that was about but <hes> yeah could be very the surprising if he was it was just a very all right message and yeah so that's just your typical. I guess <music> suspect now. It seems like an thanks for that correction. Yes sorry to have a sad note but yeah debate days are fun. They're getting the air yeah curious to see how much control stuff comes up down. It'd be interesting tonight on stage for sure tomorrow too right yeah. That's usually something they bring up on both nights but yeah I'm I'm looking forward to it and we'll be live tweeting it from at daily beans pod so check that out <hes> you actually probably aren't going to hear this time in fact the next one but guess what I did and if you WanNa go back and read them Kubo all right guys. Please take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. I been a G. I Binge Lisa Johnson. I've enjoyed and coburn learn. Them's the beans the daily beans produced by A._G.. Featuring to Lisa Johnson and Jordan Coburn and

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Morning Joe 10/25/19

MSNBC Morning Joe

42:34 min | 1 year ago

Morning Joe 10/25/19

"The trust me up and a lot of heavy to the age said you'll be wearing a bulletproof vest yes you are going to the world series on Sunday while paying tribute to a great man it was a real tribute it was historic in the sense that Elijah Cummings was the first MSNBC political contributor Rick Tyler Joe in Meeker off today as they attend the funeral of Congressman Elijah Cummings later this morning in Baltimore due to a criminal investigation news was first reported by The New York Times review is being conducted by Connecticut. US Attorney John Durham according to The Times this movie armor under his jacket good morning welcome to morning Joe it's Friday October twenty fifth I'm Willie geist president trump as you heard there attending the world series on Sunday if there is a game I have I wanted to start with you because you were at that beautiful memorial and the Capitol yesterday for Elijah Cummings where you saw Mitch McConnell Nancy Pelosi Mark Meadows both sides of the Reverend Al Sharpton also with US senior adviser and move on dot org an MSNBC contributor Korean Jon Pierre and Republican Communication Strategist AC news confirming that an investigation into the origins of the Russia probe closely overseen by Attorney General William Bar has now changed from an administrative review durum the power to subpoena witness testimony documents to convene a grand jury and to file criminal charges as the Times notes the opening of a criminal investigation testimony a day after we saw thirty Republicans storm the hearing if the testimony of wait a minute let's be more life Elijah where we can be civil the President George W Bush eighteen years ago during the world series a month and a half after nine eleven throwing a dart down the middle while wearing and five the nationals get ended before then with us this morning we've got former Treasury official and morning Joe Economic Endless Steve Rattner the president of the Council on Foreign Relations and author of the book disagree but come together to on a statement who really served this country never giving up his principles but learn how to relate to others and I think it was the African American elected officials to lay it state in Statuary Hall and to see Mitch McConnell and Schumer and Pelosi all initially we were there tomorrow his past and his funeral as I said we'll be later this morning down in Baltimore we'll go live there a little bit later in the show but we want to begin with and debate rather than get into such disparaging kind of spiteful behaviour and in two zero trump thought it was a day that he lied you would've wanted on world in disarray Richard Haass Republican strategists and MSNBC political analyst Susan Dell Persio the host of MSNBC's politics nation and the president of the National Action Wedding and he and I work together so the family at us there and Paul Ryan sitting with us it showed the best in the country when people can so a Giulio explain if you can what exactly John Durham has seen from the time he initiated or since the time the Justice Department initiated this administrator view about political bias is this being used as a tool from this administration to go after people who the president believes are against him who are part of the deep state Barr has lost its independence and become a vehicle for president trump's political revenge that's bringing NBC News correspondent Juliet Ainsley who's been covering this story accommodate the secret service their job was to protect me and therefore I wanted to make their job easier not harder and so I put it on Shen of this becoming a criminal inquiry or possibly because it already was a criminal inquiry criminal investigation now we're finding out but what exactly pushed it like Carter page and now we're asking those same questions is there enough information for this to go to a criminal investigation so again we're back in the same spot is likely to raise alarms that president trump again is using the justice department to go after his perceived enemies at this point it's not clear what potential crime derm that led him to believe the F. B. I. had acted improperly it's not clear when the change to a criminal investigation took place House Intel Committee Chair Adam Schiff and house judy in May to make it change into a criminal investigation which has of course wide ranging implications for who he can talk to what he can gather the evidence he can seek resume here this is someone who investigated CIA torture. He's done investigations into Mafia rings but there are a lot of questions and people I've spoken to within the FBI we'll be a reluctance to be involved in those investigations because if that person wins you could be called before a grand jury on the grand jury piece on the idea that you can now subpoena indicating and a J spokesperson declined to comment federal investigators need only a reasonable indication that a crime has been committed to open an investigation a much thing is the same questions we're asking about this investigation or the very questions that the Durham investigation set out to answer about what became the Mueller investigation we're talking completely different category and allow them to compel more information dig deeper than they could say when you just put this in the camp of the Inspector General at the justice they say there can be a chilling effect and they're worried that the next time they are asked to investigate any kind of campaign especially someone who may go on to hold federal office that ACID DOJ official about that WHO said that John Durham really always had the power to compel testimony simply because US Attorney but it doesn't seem that he has been this question it's true it shows the priority that the Justice Department is putting on this investigation rather than handing all of this often John Durham it's clear that the attorney general at this point it was more voluntary but because it's a criminal investigation they can now subpoenaed testimony subpoena witnesses and panel that grand jury which will put this into a having to ask a lot of questions about our justice department and investigators and whether or not they are free from bias we'll say John Durham someone with a pretty stellar from being an administrative review to a criminal investigation we're not clear in the Times doesn't lay that out there reporting either but Willie what's very ironic about this entire lower standard than the probable cause required to obtain a search warrant however there must be an objective factual basis for initiating the investigation Amir Hunch cities this as a top priority and not only has had they been cleared by people like the Italian prime minister saying there was really nothing here to see we saw the White House last week George Job and one with great responsibility where he is traveling around the world as you point out to personally investigate a case tells you declare that that was not the case that the Italian government had no role in this but again extraordinary that the attorney general of the United States of America's flying to Italy to look in is insufficient that is according to DOJ guidelines the administrative review of the Russia probe began in May you'll remember after attorney general Bar said he had conversations take up dirt on his political opponent Joe Biden so this investigation could not be seen in a vacuum it is something that this administration is using to ended this investigation into the two thousand sixteen campaign interference were quote treasonous he said that earlier this year William Bars working here on behalf of president trump there department who is also doing a review into the questions this is pretty extraordinary that the Justice Department has moved this as a top priority now of course attorney general bar himself not just John that is also a Russian story there was Russian interference in the campaign it was systematic The campaign the trump campaign unwittingly the president's phone call in Ukraine that this was all to get to the bottom of launched the investigation get to the bottom of the two thousand sixteen election the two thousand sixteen election results for whatever reason because it speaks his legitimacy and he he wants to just blow up and someone on the trump campaign was tricked into giving information you had the prime minister of Italy Julia coming out at a press conference on Wednesday to publicly and and because of that that somehow justified the president getting involved in having that conversation with the president of Ukraine that ultimately led to him asking Muller's investigation to put the Justice Department or his and I would say the president's particular spin on an investigation he gave it to the White House before anybody else had talking about a predicate John Durham went out to see if the FBI had enough information if the Justice Department had enough information to seek fiso warrants on people era has been traveling the world looking into this places like the UK Australia and notably Italy because they think there's some link there to a conspiracy between the Italian government muller the White House has disputed parts of that obviously but is the Justice Department saying that what this investigation revealed is in fact false I it was laid out in the Nunez memo this is the idea that people within the FBI used that steele dossier as a reason to there's no other way to put it so well there's only one reason attorney general bar who's supposed to be managing the Justice Department which is fairly low defy all sorts of priorities and then of course what is at the heart of now and impeachment Acqua Rick Tyler this is another case where the the Justice Department in this case it Fiso warrants that would be a surveillance weren't on Carter page that then went and opened this investigation they're also conspiracy theories that they're looking into the is but also Republicans in the House and the Senate this week have answered president trump's call to go chase down theories that he has remember he said that the F. B. I. Agents who has been largely disproven about George Popadopoulos and whether or not when he met with professor named Joseph Masud whether or not that was actually orchestrated by the coordinated with the Russians you have a Paul Manafort who was the campaign chairman who is now in jail for his connections with questions but during this entire course there has been no evidence that these warrants were in any way fabricated in fact I should just point out in order to get the investigation is that right because I don't see a lot of disputing of the outcomes and the findings of the investigation you had the Intelligence Agency of course you had robber Ooh all the facts that we we know that happened in the two thousand sixteen election results which was there was Russian interference not you're creating interference the president's obsession and that's what's going on here and remember Bill Barr was the one who came out after the Muller investigation to systematically undermining so he went out in advance early days there were many people who came through the Justice Department who sign their names to this it's not like this was all in the hands of one person or one up political affiliation President and his campaign did not collude or a conspiracy with the Russians. They're not disputing that at all what they're going to as a Republican talking point that we've heard over the past two years Jerry chaired Jerry Nadler responded with a joint statement reading in part these reports if true raise profound new concerns that the Department of Justice Under Attorney General William chance to look at it and it's set there for days of spinning by the White House and the Justice Department to put a particular of framing thing of what the Miller report was and so that is now happening again so Julia let me just clarify one thing this is an investigation into the origins of the vector general who has been looking into this for over a year we're still waiting on those results and then you add on top of this now criminal investigation into these very same willy as we've been reporting there are people within the CIA and FBI some low level people whose names have not risen to the top of this investigation who have been lawyering up in anticipation can that rather remarkable press conference from Chief-of-staff Mick Mulvaney used the Justice Department investigation us what John is doing as some kind of justification here's what Senator Graham had to say about the new measure yesterday give president trump these rights that every other president she ate the impeachment inquiry as well as provide president trump with quote due process to include the ability to confront his accusers call witnesses on his behalf and have a basic MR resolution slamming house Democrats impeachment inquiry the five page measure co-sponsor by majority leader Mitch McConnell Accuses Democrats of violating due process so just that it was not well predicated it's exactly the former Willie they haven't disputed the findings at all in fact especially because the ultimate finding was at the a warrant you have to have a judge sign off and we've been able to see from those fiso warrants that those in the early days before this ever became the Mueller probe standing of the accusations against him it also requests that Republicans be able to quote participate fully in all proceedings and have equal authority to issue subpoenas Publican senators seven have yet to sign on including senators Susan Collins Lisa Murkowski and Mitt Romney so Susan this is of a piece of what Republicans have been doing this do that the priority it is it doesn't seem to be William bars priority though maybe this is the president's priority he has he is obsessed with look into quote get tough and fight for him yesterday he took to twitter to praise House Republicans for being tough smart and understanding after a group that was ambassador Taylor so I'm not sure they're very effective plus this is the wrong kind of messaging they look like they're trying to disrupt and not let the process they're trying to delay things it's not working we ended up when they delayed the testimony of of someone they created five hours where all we talked about it is even continued during the trump Justice Department or Julius Ainsley explaining complicated story very well thanks so much Julie meanwhile president trump has spent the week urging week you had on Wednesday you had the House Republicans with their Domino's pizza stormy in the secure room and yesterday this resolution where Lindsey Graham who understands better sure committee which is really important to keep in mind as he's out there trying to make friends with the president again because Senator Graham was outspoken on the presence why are we going through all of these different measures if there's nothing to hide if there's no reason to be afraid of the facts coming out so clearly they're trying to hide something Babacan Congressman storm the secure room at the Capitol where an impeachment inquiry deposition was taking place and hours after that tweet from the President Senator Lindsey Graham introduced nations when it came to Syria and now he's trying to figure out a way to kind of mend that fencing look good in the president's is yet once again because the deadline to run a primary hi is George Popadopoulos has claimed but this isn't the only investigation they've had into these questions House Republic Republicans have looked into this as well as in Russian Ukrainian politicians it just goes it just goes on and on but there's no reason bill bar would ever be involved in any particular case unless it was consider Senator Graham has not yet asked I think that's probably his deadline but what the Republicans are trying to do especially in the house are just disrupt and Amine when you're a kid and you do something wrong you distract your parents because you know if they find out what you did wrong you're going to be punished and that's the behavior we're seeing here had the Republicans get equal time to ask their questions the president will have his chance his day in court so to speak to present his point of view and this is a totally normal and appropriate I were interviewing key witnesses behind closed doors or into a summary released by grams office the resolution calls in the house to hold a floor vote that would formally speak and you have a president who basically doesn't believe in any rules trying to completely undermine it because they don't like the substance of it they talk about the process all the time because they know the the processes and procedures and comportment of how you act this president and I did find the the storming of the of the skiff quite remarkable state and then you have the Justice Department now looking into the two thousand sixteen investigation itself these three pieces coming together to sort of change the conversation that's exactly us going with the Pizza Party and yesterday Lindsey Graham's resolution followed meetings with the President United States where they went ineffectively took their orders and said we're going to do this and he said I mean it's almost comical if it wasn't really tearing the fabric of this country plus a third of the people there then house members were allowed to be inside the he or Bill Taylor's testimony they don't WanNa talk about that for obvious reasons because this damning to the president usually when people distract because they can't deal with the truth at this is part of the process that these interviews and private and then you have the hearing in the Senate running interference for the president and he's Lindsey Graham is also the head of the would be more these protests these guys who spent their life arguing against guys like me protesting now you have a pizza protests in the middle of testimony the money from Bill Taylor has been when you put together these serve three prongs the House Pizza Party and then you had of course yesterday Lindsey Graham with his resolution condemning the entire inquiry that are part of this impeachment inquiry that also includes Mike Pence's brother he's part of this hearing as well it includes the Republican leader sitting there together and morning Joe Joe Scarborough mic and I was sad with the family we invited Congressman Cummings officiated over there and I didn't say to him what I felt like sandwiches hey man I got to throw the pitch you know you wear the bulletproof vest generally thought it was very important get him guys said as much on twitter I mean they're just out in the open explicitly acting on his behalf the outlook it's quite extraordinary we have a president who doesn't seem to have any respect for the normal ah back in the ninety Clinton how would you have reacted I think he would we're doing this you'd be beaten out of the resolution is backed by forty six in the house so it's all their outcry is a total and complete joke and this is the GOP hypocrisy that we're seeing right now and Richard let's get to some form argument at all you have to do is look at the polling the polling the country is moving more and more closer in historical fashion to to Nixon Clinton have had and take a vote to allow the house to be all record authorizing this this is a rogue action by single committee Oh forward meaning what do you have to hide and right now it looks like the Republicans are trying to hide a lot of these all have something in common none of them are talking about the facts or the evidence look the the evidence is overwhelming in this case and so what Republicans are doing is they're making a process argument which is a failed houses and by the way the Republicans never give Democrats the right to issue subpoenas where they're in the majority so this is all this is all being played out exactly I think by hoiles rules Abscissa what's going on there especially since Bill Taylor's testimony is extraordinarily damaging to them Korean this has all been a week of tells about how damning that test of our our life that we've come to this just underscore a couple of things I said there will be public hearings in the house right it's just simply depositions the beginning of a process as the rev hearings more those nearly fifty Republicans that are sitting all that that are part of the impeachment inquiry that signals three committees to where Democrats are right which impeachment inquiry and we see it more than fifty percent in most of the polling here's a thing as well when you look at the House and the impeachment to storm with pizza and you hand hearing I mean if that does not make the American people say wait a minute what are we hiding you would would would take over and ask the questions you can't have it both ways so steve these both of these incidents the House that has never done impeachment inquiries before and I think it's dangerous to the presidency tried to interfere with the help of policy in your wheelhouse secretary of State Mike Pompeo was in his home state of Kansas again yesterday sat down for an interview with mcclatchy Wichita Eagle and the Kansas City star which he mostly deflected questions on Ukraine and Syria Bill Taylor told Congress this week that he sent you a cable on August really dry hot windy conditions yesterday we had two big fires the tick fire is the one that's just outside of Santa Clarita just north of Los Angeles this one died down a little bit not you're right we're going to talk more about Syria and just a minute still ahead on Morning Joe Congressman Tim Ryan who ended his bid yesterday for the president of the United States the Ohio Democrat joins US anyway less than a hundred one percent loyal you're you're then and rex tillerson territory or genetic territory or some territory where essentially a you're beginning to be on the banana peel so what you're seeing from Mike Pompeo is the calculated decision that he is going to be there one hundred percent or one hundred percent secretary out for these local interviews where getting crushed by local reporters happening Nashville last week as well but what do you make of the questions he was asking his one of his principal tasks which is to defend his own people and he's taken tremendous heat forward and rightfully so he hasn't you know this is the opposite of Tammy Wynette he's not standing Ashington right now I'm not sure if there's any safe spots for the secretary of state let me ask you a question is a guy who's been in these rooms do you think he believes what he's saying when he says our reputation is fine it's better than and now it is flared back up overnight winter now gusting once again to forty to fifty miles per hour it just jumped highway fourteen the highway's closed now in both directions and there are lihue graduated first in his class at West Point he was the head of the CIA he's now secretary of state he's not he's a he's a professional my own also now beginning to take on a lot of water as as secretary of state and so he's got a problem when he goes around the country you got attack when he goes around the world so other than straight ahead but first here's bill with check on the forecast bill good morning to Willie and once again California's to focus of just these epoch fires that continued to burn in the US in light of the presence treatment of the Kurds is that undercut US credibility the whole product of your questions saying the word of the united inches he knows better but if you're going to work with this president there can't be you one bit of daylight between you and the president and if you're in US and the problem is again you it's not just the credibility of the country that gets weekend your own credibility I think that's where he is right now the job requires total oil willingness to answer them in an impossible situation which he's put himself in he wants to give unconditional support for the president if he does that he clearly fails turns to the President Look I came here today to talk about workforce development came to talk about the great things that are going on here in Kansas what good really is the word of the US apple area this was one of our NBC photographers that was trying to get to the heart of the fire it was moving so fast at jumped highway one forty eight that they actually had to stop in turn around no mandatory evacuations that are in effect with that fire the other big blaze yesterday was that Kincaid fire this one was further north up in wine country and just north of San Francisco north of the as men or women so there's that and to argue that you know you sh- reliability and credibility are stronger now than they want to two and a half years ago that's a talking never been he he's a smart guy understands the world do you think he believes what he's saying no Mike I think I think he knows better this is go that way all morning long and then we're GonNa do it again on Sunday and then we're going to northern California six million people under a high wind watch and they think they got a hundreds of point but that doesn't pass the laugh test obviously obviously not so that's what he that's where he is but he's taken on mixed metaphors good morning Joe we'll be right back hi it's Katy Tur WanNa keep up with MSNBC while you're on the go subscribe to the Msnbc daily newsletter get the best of what you've missed during this unprecedented era of news text Msnbc two six six eight six six to subscribe eight I'll give you a good example is much more respected today than it was just two and a half years ago Richard might be time for the State Department to stop putting the Middle East and we have allowed it to be disbanded just like happened in Czechoslovakia exactly the same thing history will repeat itself Asia Prime Ministership of England within a year of Saturday that agreement Germany invaded Poland and World War Two was under Tennessee and Ohio Valley as we go through Saturday and then Sunday that soaking rain moves to the northeast so keep that in mind for all of your plans you know including the world dozens maybe even a million people possibly preemptive power outages because of that event they say it could be the strongest winds over the season that Sunday the other huge story this big rain you can see why they're so we continue with the story today we have extreme fire risk in southern California these winds are GonNa Forty to sixty miles per hour starting now and then peace in our time he's holding up the papers right there and he was then reelected a include yes more troops and battle tanks a senior defense official tells NBC News that President Donald Trump was briefed by top officials on the importance of that's GonNa move through areas of the eastern half of the country all weekend long we have flash flood wash from Louisiana through Mississippi and as I mentioned that rainy weather is going to move from today to the goal in nineteen thirty eight British prime minister after getting promises from Hitler comes back and he says there is the Kurds we have abandoned them they're being slaughtered by the Turks and we have given a measure China's GonNa come against North Korea's GonNa come a guest this is Pat Robertson comparing president trump did Neville Chamberlain on the seven hundred the president of the United States comes on the air and he said I have a peace treaty the Kurds had the best army to defend for freedom in the to keep those fields from falling into the hands of Isis the Pentagon says the US will reinforce the area with quote Additional Military Assets Defense official tells NBC News For this move was to get the troops out of Syria American troops in to end endless wars now we're sending troops in to protect the oil fields helped me sort this out you can't during the oilfields so they cannot be seized and used to fund isis terrorist activities. Richard this in my brain a little bit I thought the entire rationale away as I look what's happening in with the Kurds in the Middle East it is a replay almost word for word club yesterday multiple defense officials tell NBC News US forces have been ordered to prepare to provide security for oilfields in the eastern part of Syria. I don't always work out well but you anticipate while if we do this then what and this is an example of what happens when you again you you may tell you have telephone calls and you make its Improv we're safe the Turks are out what we've done is set in motion a chain of events with all sorts of knock on consequences and that's one of the beliefs of them and again the bigger cities and so the the the concept is is legitimate but as Richard said there's no process and also as we sit here at the moment those fields producing twenty five thousand barrels a day of Oil Ah Steve Correctly says minute capability to produce this is such a twisted now policy that again is has no one no one should see reporter Syria and I promise you I'm sitting here right now Russia is going to come against this turkeys come against us about well this is what happens when you make foreign policy on the fly without a process one of the reasons you have an interagency process you have National Security Council beating is that you're never surprised at least your concerns if you kept isis in prison which by the way the Kurds were doing there was no no problem with the oilfields for keep a small number of American troops there the Kurds and when you improv you constantly get surprised and that's that's what you have here it is true is true that there was a time when the oil was helping to finance I suspect series there it looks like we should be okay the rain to be ending in DC by the time the game starts there if we do get a game Sunday Chicago you're GonNa have a soaking rain on Saturday be prepared Italy different it's the first administration in post World War Two American history that has put American economic and commercial interests in a narrow sense ahead of strategic uh I didn't support it but again commercial access to oil was never the goal again it was it was a war you may people thought it was misguided I think for good reasons they thought so but again addressing the president directly so Rick Tyler the problem though I guess is that the decision has already been made so Lindsey Graham can go into the White House and unroll the maps and explain to the president commercial exploitation but because it was a major strategic asset we didn't want Saddam to have his hands on so much of the world's oil and even the Iraq War Two thousand three hours taking issue with his foreign policy and making the inconsistencies of apparent that causes real problems for trump's I think politics spells trouble for the White House and I think when you have donald trump and those around him watching a Pat Robertson Lindsey Graham day after consequences are us standing in the region and the world so the idea that we're going to reintroduce of small number of soldiers to guard some small oilfield foreign policy is consistent but it's an it's consistently incoherent I want to ask Richard Haass because I take in many ways is worse than never the only thing that American foreign policy this narrow capitalist enterprise in my expansion almost never is but what's one of the many many ways this administration is fundament I would say it's money I wanted it's mine it's funny I was involved in in government during the Gulf War were getting we wanted to protect the oil goals saying the complete alarmist kinds of stance about what Donald Trump is done in many things but for him to be that adamant I mean he's not being you know just gentle about it he is coming straight at the president two or three times of it is is something very troubling for them 'cause Pat Robertson is a very well regarded figuring that particular world I don't agree with Pat Pulitzer Prizes to people they got it wrong okay all these people for doing it from the New York Times which is a fake interest and ahead of humanitarian interest this is

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Moscow Mitch

The Daily Beans

32:32 min | 1 year ago

Moscow Mitch

"This <music> hello and welcome to the daily beans for Wednesday July thirty first two thousand nineteen today we talk about privileged families taking advantage of a loophole to steal grants from students in need a police shooting case underway. That's getting no coverage California Governor Gavin newsom signs of the new law requiring the release of presidential tax returns for the primaries the first night of the debates and Moscow Mitch. I'm your host A._G.. And with me today or Julius Johnson enjoyed Cockburn Hello Hey guys. How're you guys doing good well? How are you? I'm well as well well. Thank you yeah we did Beach Dog Day Dog Beach Today and <hes> so we've got some sun so I'm feeling a little tired and <hes> and <hes> and then <hes> we cleaned our house today so that's nice and so then I felt it was necessary as probably take a shower because I was so grubby that I felt uncomfortable in my clean house. Else was a good day to get out. I'm glad you got to the beach. I was biking around the Neighborhood Beautiful Day yeah yeah. It was nice so thanks for that weather for San Diego. We pay high rents for that so I'm glad we got it for a little bit. WE ARE SMACK DAB in the middle of the debates and we record before they err so we're going to add so. We're going to do our news and then we're GONNA take break. Watch the debates. I'm gonNA live tweet them. At the at daily beans pod not the daily beans at daily Jelly Beans pod. I keep getting that messed up <hes> and then after that <hes> I'm going to record like a wrap up of of the debates gates and we'll stick at the end of the show so you make your show a little bit late tonight. Patrons sorry about that. It's still going to come out in the morning for everybody else. <hes> do you guys have any ideas about who's going to win. Even before we start wars no Brown who said Warren Yeah Cool I agree <hes> there's no brown candidates right commas tomorrow Yeah Julia and Yeah Yeah Yeah Definitely going for Warren. I think warrants GONNA win today. Yeah me too. I Agree Warren Yeah. I'm hoping Buddha judge can have a stronger showing this time. He was pretty strong strong in the first one but I I would like for him to really come pulled out about race sort of thing. That's kind of what I'm looking for to <hes> Oh can appropriately address yeah. I wouldn't even know how to do that so I hope someone's on how to do it or watch in the hopes that he will handle it gracefully incorrectly yeah and I was thinking like some of the fringe candidates that aren't really making waves should just come out and say I'm the only thing I'm running on an to unseat trump. That's the only reason I'm doing an F. Russia in a yeah and not know homophobic way right just in. I don't feel like doing tonight way true and I I really think I I just wanted that other but you know I I really think that okay. I just feel like they have to do something me. No major or noteworthy or something and that's something no one's tried yet. Everyone's trying to run on the issues. No one's running against trump except maybe Tom Steiner yeah but he's not even on the debate stage. No one's running. I mean motions like Ooh there could be like a catchphrase like they're running on the issues and not the tissues Oh you know they should that address like the racist comments recently in the fact that Republicans are saying it's not racist like we need to apparently go back into finally racism right because everyone's sort of nitpicking picking can Joe Biden for example about his bussing answer and <hes> about the crime bill and unintended consequences of that three strikes rule how we have so many non violent criminals in prison in most most of them are people of Color and disenfranchise people who then again don't have the right to vote anymore because of all that and then here we have a dude in the White House telling people people who color to go back to the shit holes they came from and it's like I understand that you want Democrat against Democrat in the primaries but I want some candidate to just stand up and say are are you missing the bigger picture we have a racist rapist exchange that middle letter for whatever you like in the White House and <hes> and we need to beat him the end in policies are important of course but I do crave that to someone just address. The Big Grace's elephant in the room. You know like just call it out and then go on with Your Plans Republican Elephant Nice Warren go on with your plans because I mean policies are nice but none of it matters unless we get trump out of the White House totally yeah so. Do you feel like they're going to stray away from asking them a lot of explicitly race-based space questions just because there are no representation of any people of color like adults tomorrow question but I I do think they will probably ask like Bernie and and Warren like what are you going to do for voters of color or people of color because the kind of and Buddha judge especially because they need to prove that there's like zero people people of color for Buddha judge and not very many at all for sanders and so that's something that they would have to rectify there was a poll that came out Quinnipiac poll that came out trump trump eighty six percent of black Americans will not vote for trump. Thank God so four percent said they would yeah. I met one of those guys Yeah Yeah with the Baltimore comets to I mean they really could address some very relevant things right now. Just briefly it does seem a little bit weird to me though that it's kind of like nick asking a question that would warrant the perspective of a person of color to check things. They might say up there yeah tonight too so n._F._l.. Obvious Kala did a really good job of that the last time where she said as you know the only woman of color exaggerate now. I'd like to address your question about racism right right exactly so it's weird that they won't even have anybody that could even provide that actual perspective Combi let you finish energy have a personal. There's no colleges run across the stage every once just this week or that would just make everyone feel small insignificant. I never run and we're going to end the conversation before starting emails. You guys have a lot of news to get to so let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes notes all right guys. Let's kick off the hot notes with a story from PROPUBLICA. What good journalism they have here they about privileged families exploiting exploiting a loophole Jordan? What did the journalists at Propublica fine yes so it's in Propublica Illinois specifically? They're uncovering that there's a group of wealthy individuals individuals basically they're. They're on a cohort or anything. It just happens to be wealthy white people presumably I don't want to say I'll white people but kind of kind of people <hes> that are using the loophole of essentially letting their kids in their junior and senior year of high school <hes> effectively not be independence anymore so they can file for financial aid as an independent which is giving them themselves or whatever I don't know I hesitated to say emancipate because I don't know if it's exactly emancipation the process says that they're going through but there are transferring them over to a grandparent or an aunt or someone that doesn't somewhere on social security or whatever that doesn't have the kind of money that their parents have right right so they're claiming themselves as being financially independent and because of that they're getting all of these extra grants scholarships resources because they're doing that and they've gone through and seeing that there's been a lot of cases between January twenty eighteen and now it's like over forty cases or something of this this just in Illinois and the people some of the parents are doctors their lawyers there one is like an assistant superintendent so these are not low income come families in a lot of The suburban high school called someone out of university who had sent an invitation to one of their high school students. That's about to go to their school an invitation into an event that specifically tailored for low income students and they were like this person is not low income. Why did they get this invitation and they said Oh we'll because they're they're on our list of people that are basically like struggling financially and see I couldn't get aid because my parents made too much money <hes> and <music>? I'm totally fine with that because this aid is finite. It's capped so if you are getting it someone else's not and it's different from the V._A.. Because a lot of a lot of veterans are like I don't want to sign up for my V._A.. Benefits because I could be taking away benefits from somebody has worse off than me but that's not how the V._A.. Benefits work. It's not like Pie. Everyone is entitled to if they are disabled <hes> in whatever way to get their compensation for that but this is a finite pot of money and and it's it reminds me of there's two things here first of all that sucks because it's a finite pot of money and it reminds me of that movie Solman Oilman where he took a bunch of tanning pills to odd to look like he was black and scholarship for a black student before the black girl who fell in love with I'm found out about it. She was mad and he couldn't figure it out until she explained. I was up for that scholarship and I didn't get it because they gave it to you at the last minute Jeez and so the I mean this isn't that particular situation but he kind of is and the second thing. This is why education this is. Why wish needs to be lowered? There's why education needs to be cheaper. If we look at the larger picture here people are cheating and fighting to get an education that should be afforded all of us at no cost yeah. I don't know at least at a lower cost right and I don't I agree Lina <unk>. I definitely do not doubt that some of these families that are doing this legitimately need more aid schools are so fucking expensive yeah and the threshold isn't high hi. It's not like if you're a millionaire you know it's my parents who were you know blue collar workers a steelworker and a Kent County or Asto no county clerk recorder working to maybe middle class jobs and they made too much money for me to get financial aid so yeah. It's it's. It's it's it's complicated and it's weird for everyone. The core of this problem is the massive expense of college and the huge debt that we end up in at the end of it <hes> <hes> regardless but this is also a shit. It's a Dick move is a dick move but again yeah. It's like sort of I I mean we could talk about it forever rattling. It's a huge dig move and I bet there are people that one hundred percent could easily pay for it and they're just just the there. Were a few that that you're like. I don't know the percentage manager. Whatever but <hes> also this week <hes> Julie's a big story? That's getting small coverage involving police shooting here in Oklahoma on yes so <hes> this was because in two thousand sixteen eighteen Alfred along go was shot and killed by police officer in Oklahoma named Richard Gonzales and this week the trial of the only trial that made it to court regarding his incident and began and it was filed by his wife daughter and sister Lucy who witnessed her brother's death and along those death or I'm sorry Orlando's death and the filming of it brought San Diego uh-huh into the spotlight of the black lives matter movement which is why it's Kinda weird that this trial hasn't gotten a lot of media attention but supposedly the lawyers on both sides don't want to taint the jury pool. Change your favorite word yeah but <hes> I think it needs attention I do yeah we did get some some attention when it happened at least here in San Diego go I don't know how it was received across the country but yeah because he was having a mental health issues and and we've actually done a couple of things since then to ensure and in fact <hes> <hes> our <hes> marketing manager -sarily Steiner is is working on a program to be at these responses when cops are called and there is a she's a less clinical social social worker and there is somebody with mental health issues so that they don't face this because I think he had a vape pen with him and they thought it was a gun he pulled it out and point. It was a gun but he was going through a breakdown. Yeah yeah sister was like He. He's not dangerous. He's just having you know. He's he's having a mental breakdown he needs he needs help. Helping US healthcare. He needs mental health care and this shouldn't happen and <hes> you know. I'm I'm. I'm interested to see how this trial goes. Does <hes> so you know we're definitely gonNA keep our eye on it but I I felt like it needed a little more coverage definitely getting sorry by taint the jury I don't think I will I think <hes> the reporter who's been covering this. Her name's Bianca Bruno yes. She's I think a local reporter too but she is the one who tweeted about this and you've got a lot of attention and yeah I really cool it. She's following this and just needs more attention. That's all yeah. We'll definitely keep your. We'll keep you posted its. I mean the trials already happening so it should be over the week next week. Yeah so <hes> stick around <hes> next week and we'll tell you what's going on with that and then guys this week California governor our Governor Gavin newsom has signed a law that will make Donald Trump ineligible for California's primary ballot next year unless he discloses. I think six years of his tax returns five years of his stature to a lot of the tax returns federal tax returns the law took effect Tuesday and it will spark a high profile court cases trump's lawyer. Jay seculow has has promised to sue many feel if it succeeds it could set a precedent for other states to put weird requirements on candidates <hes> I don't see it that way because you and I have had this discussion about court cases and the precedents they sat got in how they're not blanket precedent. It's more specifically about tax returns. In the California state primary. I kind of wish that he would have done state tax returns in order to run in the state primary. It might have been a little more secure as a lawsuit because I'm all for this. I'm all for the transparency and you know because people were uh-huh. Oh what about Dem's I'm like all dems disclosing their tax returns and cool and yes and I want this transparency but yeah you also have to be careful. People think it might right encroach on the constitution that says you only have two three these three criteria to run for president but that is the federal election that is the federal general election and not California primary. We run our own primary. Hi Mary so we'll see how it turns out in court. I texted Renato Mariotti about it. <hes> that's <hes> the host of the on topic podcast former Federal Prosecutor cuter and he says it's a complicated issue. If it's an additional qualification added by the state it's unconstitutional because you can't add additional qualifications to be president but there's is a very good argument that it isn't a qualification because anyone could meet it just by releasing. It's just like forcing candidates to turn in signatures to be on the ballot that makes sense. Another issue is whether it curtails the First Amendment Rights Have Republicans. <hes> does the law tell them how they must pick their own nominees. It's complicated. No one knows for sure her <hes>. I don't know what the G._O._P.. Do in response personally. I'm all for transparency so that's what Renato says I concur with Renato Sergei response. What if they didn't file their taxes they should all have their taxes right but with that somehow make them not like all eligible? If someone's like I ain't got it broke the law aw yeah yeah so. Let's find out because I remember there. Was this headline I saw in this on this topic that said it might affect some other candidates but I didn't read it yet. I'm just curious about what they can mean by by that. Yeah I don't know what do you think do you do. They should be forced to release their tax returns to be on the primary ballot. <hes> I mean I also I'm just a fan of the transparency and I don't really see what someone truly stands to lose by doing it unless they're already a criminal kind of course or someone. That's kind of one of those things where I don't think it's like a huge invasion of privacy really and I've noticed it. Most Republicans think that we want this so that we can prove he's not a billionaire but but that is actually has nothing to do with it. First of all we already know is not a billionaire and we got We want to see if he's beholden to any enemies. That's basically it and you know what is he laundering money is he is. He not paying his taxes is he. Is he dodging taxes. Those are important things for Americans to know I think especially since we already have all these breadcrumbs about how many times he's claimed bankruptcy and all of these things so it's like I would just I would love how yes he's still sits. There totes this image as like the wealthiest man in America to see how oh you got to point B yeah. It should be interesting and one last thing late breaking last night in New York federal judge dismissed the D._N._C.'s lawsuit which sought to hold the trump campaign and wikileaks liable for the Russian election hacks <hes>. I'm not mad about this dismissal. Basically the the judge was citing the first amendment and this goes back to when assange assange we found out assange was brought up on charges of espionage for his two thousand ten dissemination of what Chelsea Manning stall and the difference is is he didn't he but he helped steal it right did he then he should be charged for that but he shouldn't be charged for the dissemination or obtaining it <hes> because that's what journalists do whether whether he whether you want to call him a legit journalist or not that's not defined by the law you'd have to do that and now we're parsing things that could set precedents <hes> <hes>. I think that you know if you if you help steal the the shit. If you hack the shit then you should be charged it was the Russians hacked and they were charged if you receive it and disseminate it if muller mugune comes in to your Ecuadorian Cat Chamber and hand you a thumb drive with a bunch of hacky females on it if you receive it and disseminate that actually shouldn't be illegal it treads a little bit on the First Amendment and I not for that <music> so I'm I'm okay with this dismissal. Yeah me too totally all right well that was easy arguments from the peanut gallery. I think there is something to be further looked into in litigated <hes> because it's like it's still something still doesn't sit right though right that like wikileaks could walk away for that entire situation squeaky-clean but it might just be the case that that's how it has to be for us to uphold First Amendment Rights Yeah agreed. We have to really protect host so do they have like <hes> like a wikipedia style donation thing on their page because people could boycott that you need some kind of consequence consequences if it works the same way otherwise we would just go in and I'll change the pages and money. It's free speech same argument Ron Paul Offspring just keeping that sign alive libertarian funded one hundred percent gosh all right guys. It's time for a social media call to action all right so an OP ED in Washington Post. This Week is making Turtle Dick Mitch Super Sad and the story says Mitch is standing by trump up in refusing to lift a finger to defend against Russian election interference in two thousand twenty because trump can make or break any other legislation Mitch Might WanNa Pass. He doesn't seem to want to bring anything to the floor for a vote these days the Washington Post article didn't even mention the two point five million dollars McConnell accepted from lend Levada Nick nor did they mention <hes> his Deripaska reach around when he voted to lift sanctions on the oligarch so he could get a giant Russian aluminum plant in his home state and no homosexual shaming on the reach around. That's just a friendly gift a- anyone can reach around. Yes exactly thank you. I just wanted to combination yeah those emails though not not a homophobic comment just a favor <hes> but regardless of those things not being being mentioned in Wapo trump called the Washington Post a Russian asset and this is a signal to me that someone is leaked some of the F._B._i.. Counter intelligence findings to trump saying he's an asset because his M._o.. Is that once he finds out he does something wrong. He accuses his opponent of doing the same thing. Yeah can't spill asset without mass asked hat Russian asset and morning Joe Morning Joe Joe Scarborough <hes> has coined the term Moscow Mitch and according to The Washington Post and now it's trending on twitter so please had to social media and keep Hashtag Moscow Mitch on the Charts I love that we should like do a little experiment and try to get a bill bill. That's pro Russia on the floor and C Mitchell vote for that like Russia is awesome bill. Go yes this is we are putting the bill forward that says we need to hand the overall of our internal polling data to the Kremlin. Oh yeah that's so curious about what she's a little test bill yeah yeah he'll be tempted. You know he will really sweaty betty. Yeah holy crap all right guys. We'll be right back in one second. Thanks for listening to the daily beans the new morning news podcast with swears if you sign up and become a patron and not only will you get ad free episodes are newsletter and research notes presale tickets for live shows patronage for our other podcasts muller she wrote and access to our private social media community but you also get the daily beans the night before it's released to the public plus your contribution goes towards health benefits for our staff that is until we elected Democrat and realize Medicare for all. Thanks again for listening and please subscribe wherever you get your podcasts daily be live lover. She wrote Hey. Hey guys welcome back. It's a g hear everyone's left <hes> we've finished watching the debates and I just have a couple of things I wanNA talk about really quickly first of all <hes> <hes> C._N._N.. Shouldn't do debates anymore. <hes> I really didn't like the way that they structured it. I didn't like their questions. Their questions were G._O._P.. Talking points for the for the most part <hes> you know for example when <hes> they were asking about whether they want you know. Did you want to decriminalize the border. You voted to decriminalize the border or whether they were asking people who wanted Medicare for all will you you know how do you feel about throwing <hes> union workers off their health insurance and it was just really <hes> contentious. I think they were trying to start fights. I don't appreciate it. I prefer <hes> the M._S._N._B._C. Format not much better and I think it went on a little bit too long. But of course there are ten candidates. It's hard to judge. I think there were two clear winners tonight. I think Buddha Judge Warren I thought Warren was going to run away with it. Buddha judge was really really amazing tonight as well <hes> so I'm just going to go through here. <hes> my quick ideas about each of the candidates that were on stage tonight I there was bullock. Oh look <hes> and there's no sex pistols. Album called never mind the bullocks and I think we can do that here. I think he's gone <hes> he got no applause after his closing statement sort sort of a centrist <hes>. I don't think he's going anywhere after this Marianne Williamson dark horse of the night super surprising Sherpur big lines were no walk hawkiness radical truth telling governing philosophy love wins <hes> we have to look at the causes and not the symptom she wants to talk about moral leadership. She's the one who can beat trump with that kind of <hes> philosophical leadership <hes> love governance situation and it was awesome to listen to her talk. I'm going to miss her. She did get applause has <hes> for her <hes> closing statements and she did get some wild applause when she started talking about <hes> environmental racism and how things like the Flint Water Crisis Listen <hes> climate change you know more like impact communities of color and disadvantaged communities more than they do the rest of us. She talked about how where she he grew up. In Grosse Pointe they would have never the flint water crisis would have never have happened there and that's just something that got a ton Bad with questions about race and racial racial issues in the country <hes> I think she'll stick around a little bit longer than the others. Marianne Williamson might hang out for a minute to because she did she did is really well tonight. But I think Delaney Tim Ryan Hickenlooper bullock or Gone Club. I think might stick around for a little bit but like I said she's still having a really hard time. <hes> <hes> answering questions about <hes> the racial injustices <hes> in America and that's probably going to be one of the major things that <unk> <hes> the twenty twenty campaign is about a bed. Oh did well but I wish he was running for Senate. I have big hopes for him but I think he's better for Texas than he would be for America so he he actually got a little applause on his closing statement there was there was silence for for quite a few of them. A Buddha judge like I said tied for the win knows zingers but he had some amazing <unk> moments first of all his moment on structural changes like making Washington D._C.. Estate giving them statehood so they can have proper representation in Congress and talking about restructuring the Supreme Court art so it's not political I think what he wants to do is add seats to it <hes> to be more representative of of the populace because it's been at nine seats for an our population has grown. I can't can't remember the numbers but it's crazy. We should have more people on the Supreme Court <hes> so I really like his structural ideas there to enter a lot of the problems in the country he's still having issues with the racial divides but he answered those questions much better this time than he did last time and but hit his moment was his address to Republicans in Congress risk it was so great he just looked at the camera and he said I have it right here. I wrote it down one second. He said <hes> he looked right in the camera when the sun sets on your career and they're writing your story the thing you'll be remembered for is whether in this moment with this president you found the courage to stand up to him or whether you continued to put party over country he got wild applause for that. It was a great line. It was a great moment for him <hes> so I appreciated that and then moving on to Warren Winner <hes> I think Lee tied for the winter she had plans she had details. She got interrupted a lot but I think it's because her plans are very comprehensive and she just didn't have the time with nine other people on stage to go through them or with the time restriction so hopefully in the next debate. She'll have a little more time. <hes> she had the line of the night I thought when she just jumped right in and off the top of her head said I don't understand why anybody goes through all the trouble running for president of the United States just to talk about what we really can't do and what we shouldn't fight for and that was great. She got the applause of the night line in the night. It was fantastic. She got a good closing statement. She got big applause for it and and finally <hes> Bernie Sanders who was solid is angry and he was energized. <hes> he's on message. He hasn't changed his messaging. Since the sixties <hes> he had a good closing statement <hes> he got a lot of applause in multiple appro applause breaks in his closing statement so it feels like if I were just going by audience applause that M- that maybe baby sanders won the night but I really think that the <hes> the to look out for here we're Buddha judge and Warren <hes> I might put him in a three away tie but I just think he was kind of repetitive. Although Warren repeated herself <hes> one or two times as well but for for good reason <hes> there was one one really funny moment I think he was talking to Tim rhianna bullock or one of the one of the Republicans on stage when he threw his hands up and whoever was arguing with him. I'm just going to throw your hands up. He goes yeah do it again and he threw his hands up. Everybody laughed. It was really funny. <hes> Warren might have made a tiny mistake that might have put her down a notch. She would have been the clear winner I think if she hadn't yelled at the audience <hes> she at some point she was trying to finish an answer about a personal story about a father of <hes> in a family who had <hes> L._S. and how they were struggling with pain your health care bills and they let's cut her off and ask a different question or ask another personal question. She responded to it and then I want to go back to talking about Eddie and the audience laughed and she got really mad at him and this isn't funny and I was like Whoa <hes> but you know I mean not me you know maybe that shows her fighting spirit spirit or her ability to be tough <hes> because I know the you know a lot of people with optics about <hes> you know can't a woman. Can we elect a woman president we did by the way twenty sixteen by several million votes but you know sometimes they gotta go out of their way to to prove that they're that they're tough but then of of course you have to walk that fine line as a women because you can be perceived as <hes> Schill or Bossier bitchy or whatever the fuck. I don't know it's it's terrible that we even have to have have those discussions at all. I don't think that we should <hes> can they shouldn't be considerations but anyway that is kind of blue little wrap up of my of the debates but I really don't like the way C._n._N.'s handling. I'm not looking forward to tomorrow night. I will watch it but I just don't like the way that they're posing the questions they seem. I don't know like they're trying to like. They're trying to pick fights between candidates and they're using G._O._p.. Talking points and we don't need that and <hes> you know warn brought that up on several occasions. Why are we even using G._O._P.? Talking points so I think you'll see that a lot when you watch the debate coverage but anyway <hes> that's my thoughts before even watched any any of the analysis on it. Those are just what I'm thinking so guys. I'M GONNA sign off right now. We're going to get to the wrap up of the show and I will see later all right guys. That's our show. How do you feel I feel good yeah? It was a nice day wasn't too bad. I thought it was going to be crazy. Tuesday Newsday there wasn't much it was just like wall-to-wall debate coverage emerge so we're able to <hes> pick out some of the other stories we thought would be important to you and bring them to you so thanks for that. Julia said that <hes> that's a really interesting. <hes> case that we're going to watch in Oklahoma and Oh yeah Jordan. Thanks for that that PROPUBLICA wow. I can't believe they uncovered that yeah. I'm sure it's asking every state. That's the other part of that stories. It's like being covered in Illinois that probably happening everywhere yeah that was still in there was already how many like over forty cases between January twenty eighteen and now crazy all right so <hes> vote blue and we won't have these issues to even worry about guys you have any final thoughts <hes> oh I have a correction from yesterday they <hes> about the Gilroy shooting the only found one shooter so far there was actually no confirmation of shooter yes so it's just one guy who actually might be a white supremacist because is there was a social media account that posted that seems to be on his behalf but I think it was posted after he died with people like freaked out about what that was about but <hes> yeah could be very the surprising if he was it was just a very all right message and yeah so that's just your typical. I guess <music> suspect now. It seems like an thanks for that correction. Yes sorry to have a sad note but yeah debate days are fun. They're getting the air yeah curious to see how much control stuff comes up down. It'd be interesting tonight on stage for sure tomorrow too right yeah. That's usually something they bring up on both nights but yeah I'm I'm looking forward to it and we'll be live tweeting it from at daily beans pod so check that out <hes> you actually probably aren't going to hear this time in fact the next one but guess what I did and if you WanNa go back and read them Kubo all right guys. Please take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. I been a G. I Binge Lisa Johnson. I've enjoyed and coburn learn. Them's the beans the daily beans produced by A._G.. Featuring to Lisa Johnson and Jordan Coburn and

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Day 1,406: Biden calls for unity as Trump pardons Flynn and attacks election

The 11th Hour with Brian Williams

48:59 min | 2 months ago

Day 1,406: Biden calls for unity as Trump pardons Flynn and attacks election

"And good evening once again day. Fourteen hundred six of the trump administration. Fifty six days until inauguration day. It's been eighteen days since the election was called for joe biden and on this day one. Our nation lost over twenty two hundred people. What a contrast between two men the outgoing and incoming president donald trump in the space of a little over twenty four hours pardoned a turkey and a guy who committed a felony while today calling for the outcome of the election to be overturned. He said it out loud. Joe biden on the other hand gave what was billed as a thanksgiving address to the nation. Exhorting the american people to join him in fighting the virus and not each other or call for resilience while noting how tired we all are in the face of this battle against an uncontrolled. Pandemic countries grown weary of the fight. We need to remember at war with the virus not with one another now with each other. This is the moment or we need to steal. Our spines redouble our efforts and recommit ourselves to the fight. So hang on. don't let yourself surrender to the fatigue. I know we can and we will beat this virus not going to lose this war american holes fast and conviction that out of paying comes possibility out of frustration comes progress in out of division unity as the transition moves forward. Both biden and harris will receive their first presidential daily intelligence brief on monday. More cabinet nominees also expected to be announced next week. Politico reporting biden appears to be leaning toward appointing obama national security adviser and democratic party veteran. Tom donlan as cia director. Which brings us to today's rather predictable development concern concerning trump's first national security adviser. Michael flynn lied to the vice president and the fbi about his conversations with russians than who pleaded guilty twice. flynn also initially cooperated with muller's investigation as expected trump. Did pardon him today. Posting this quote it is my inexplicably capitalized. Great to announce the general. Michael t. Flynn has been granted a full. Pardon congratulations to flynn and his wonderful family. I know you will have a truly fantastic thanksgiving the justice department which had been trying to get charges against flynn. Dismissed in court. Said only learned of trump's decision a day but in the spirit of attorney general bar called the move and appropriate use of the president's pardon power earlier on this network of former. Fbi counterintelligence official had this to say about this. Pardon the president who claims he's a law and order president has just said in this. Pardon that it's okay to lie to law enforcement even if you admit you've done it so we need an attorney general who actually is about law and order. We need an attorney general. Who understands that. America is his or her client and who therefore relates to american understands what we've been through as a country in the last four years and irony of ironies. Sally yates the former. Doj official who. I sounded the alarm to the trump white house about. Flynn said to be on biden. Shortlist for attorney general as all of this unfolds. We can say yet again tonight. This virus is at its peak in our country right now. The new york times paints a dire picture of the surge noting that for the first time since the virus erupted in our country. We've added over two million cases in the past two weeks. Washington post adds to the story noting the daily death tolls reaching levels. Not seen since early may today as we said over twenty two hundred new deaths were recorded in our country new. Cdc forecast estimate the total of two hundred ninety four thousand cova deaths in this country by december nineteen yet despite pleas from officials and health experts to stay home. Millions are traveling for the thanksgiving holiday. Weekend politico says trump officials and the biden transition team today l. The first of several meetings about the vaccine and dr fauci said he's already reached out to biden's chief of staff now that he's allowed to. I've been in contact with ron clain. Just touching base with me telling me they'll going to be talking about this very soon now that the transition is in process. The pandemic is still taking a heavy toll on jobs. Weekly jobless claims total just over three quarters of a million an increase from the previous week. Tragic especially at this time of year with all this going on the outgoing president remains laser. Focus not on jobs or the pandemic mind you overturning. The results of an election. He lost today. The trump campaign touted pennsylvania judge's decision to issue a temporary order preventing further action to certify that state's election results pending a hearing more on that with the state's second senior official just ahead and trump's lawyer rudy. Giuliani was front and center today at an odd event that was billed as a hearing by republican state lawmakers on alleged election irregularities. No one was under oath. Of course it was held in a wyndham hotel. Ballroom in gettysburg trump. Who was rumored to be planning to make the trip with rudy and attend in person instead. Phoned in to the gathering to make more false claims about winning swing states like pennsylvania and for that matter the entire election. This election was lost by the democrats. They cheated it was a fraudulent election. We have to turn the election over because there's no doubt we've all the evidence. We've all the affidavits. All we need is to have some judge listen to it properly without having political opinion or having another kind of a problem because we have everything. Trump indeed invited some of those same pennsylvania state lawmakers who took part in that gettysburg gathering this afternoon to the white house. Tonight to be part of an indoor gathering on thanksgiving eve. It's a lot but with that. Let's bring in our leadoff guests on this thanksgiving eve. Peter baker chief white house correspondent for the new york times who along his wife and writing partner. Susan glasser is the author of the new bestseller on the life and times of james a. Baker the third jason johnson a campaign veteran and journalists contributor at the grio a professor of politics at morgan state university go bears and dr kavita patel clinical physician and former senior aide during the obama administration. She is now a nonresident fellow at brookings and his among our medical contributors. Well good evening. We certainly appreciate the three of you helping to tell our story here as we begin the hour peter baker. I'd like to start with you. And your beat kind of split look from the president and the administration today. This type of pardon is the type of pardon. a departing president makes though you wouldn't have known that to look at the rest of the campaign infrastructure. There was rudy. This time rhody with the matt finish non-drip appearing in gettysburg pennsylvania at a hearing. That was not a hearing in a hotel ballroom to argue for overturning. The election something we heard the president say out loud today so peter at long last. What is the state of the obama presidency on this thanksgiving eve. Well look at this point. It's just shouting into the window. Means you to sit in a hotel ballroom complain about the election all you want. But that's not going to do anything to overturn it in the this process is basically on paths to being resolved. The swing states are certifying. The elections his own administration is ascertained. The joe biden is the legitimate winner. And therefore deserving of the transition resources provided by federal law and everybody else except for president trump and his team is moving on The rest of the world is getting ready to deal with vitamin The new president naming cabinet officials senators are getting ready for confirmation hearings for Biden's choices and everybody is focusing on the holiday and on the bid You know Pandemic were seeing spiking at this terrible time except for the press. And it's it's it's qui- quite Stretch now you're gonna see. I think it's not only hard. You're likely to see what we're hearing from. Our our our sources inside the trump circle is it Almost certainly going to be on the way over these next some days With a lot of people who are seeking them hoping for them hanging out shingle waiting for them but one of the big question is whether or not the president tries to even pardon himself. You'll see him laying the groundwork for this with kind of hearing you saw today about how he's been cheated he's been robbed. He's been gypped he's been The system is rigged against him. You can see in effect a narrative that he is is laying out there. That might try to back up. The idea that he himself would try for the first time in history to be the first president to pardon himself or any Crimes you may or may not have committed against the federal government and to my friend jason. I'm aware muscle. Got the best of me and i asked our friend peter to sum up the state of the obama presidency obviously mistake. Obviously we all need time off which were about to get but it does. Bring me to my question. Do you talk about biden's remarks today. Tone and tenor and how familiar they were how we could trace them back to. Let's say forty four of our previous presidents. Brian joe biden has very successfully. And i this was even the case before he officially won the presidency of laying out a sort of tone and groundwork for we're going to get back to work we're going to focus on organizing this country and trying to put people back into the lives that they had gotten used to. I have loved the fact. Brian and this is something because it's a prevailing theme. I think it's one of the number one reasons that he's president the current president donald trump's management of covert open the door for joe biden and come in and he started this months ago when he said look. We're trying to shut down. Cova not shut down the economy and when he says look we're going to war against cove. We're not going to work against each other. I think the rhetoric of warfare whether it's the war on drugs or the war against terror whatever. The rhetoric of warfare has always been the kind of thing that rallies americans together so. I think that that is a very good and a very effective rhetorical technique. The question will be as to whether he can rally republicans around the kind of money and resources that are going to be necessary to establish these changes but again. I also like the tone that i've heard from like we're gonna move ahead whether trump helps not we're going to move ahead where the republicans helpless us or not and i think he's going to go through with at least in the first one hundred days once he's in office and jason while i have you let me take one more to your accurate point there and that is all. The verbiage biden. News today was on the table and available to the incumbent president. We can beat this. Who's with me. We've had greater challenges before were the united states of america after all instead. He chose denial. Yeah well yeah. The current president is responsible for where we are now. His undoing politically was his inability to manage this issue and again his his son has gotten sick and herman cain and the fact that donald trump isn't just responsible for over two hundred and fifty thousand americans dying from cove it also probably directly responsible for so many people in his orbit continuing to contract cove and him not doing anything about him not even facility than the resources necessary to make these kinds of changes him not even saying. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw pictures of trump having thanksgiving meeting with his family tomorrow with all sorts of people running in and out every single doctor in the country has told us not to do for safety. Joe biden isn't just laying down the groundwork for how he's going to behave. As a new president united states he has set a contrast donald trump about modeling decent behavior. And how you select your administration how you organize things and how you behave in order to help a country through an unforeseen pandemic but a solvable one with a proper behavior and discipline and now the only actual doctor among the four of us and that's dr patel of this pandemic is at an alarming point and dr. I don't know if you're aware every night for the past several weeks we have. And there's no pride in this we've been able to come on the air and say the virus is at its peak right now. That's because it breaks every day's previous records. And i'll ask you what i've asked doctors for the past several days. Is it a given in your line of work that what's happening now. Thanksgiving with families gathering will lead us to a grim and dark set of circumstances and a potential bump in deaths and hospitalizations. Just in time for christmas. It is brian and it worries me because where as you point out not just in time for christmas but we're getting into a season where i think critically speaking we've got healthcare rivers. My brothers and sisters are literally giving their lives right now. I don't know how much more they can take. I we are all trying to figure out how to navigate with the next six to ten week. Look like and i'm ecstatic. The biden elect administration is already getting in the room and getting the planning going. I know what that looks like from the transition from bush obama. And it's a lot of work that brian. This is not just hobbling all records to be honest with you. This is breaking the back of the healthcare systems that we need day open day alive and vibrant and these are the same healthcare workers brian. Who are going to be involved in. Getting the vaccine out so they are not looking at holidays of loved ones. The way we are they're trying to think about dane alive. The make sure they get us through. Twenty twenty one and so i just hope you know. Listen bryan you've been doing this reporting every night. I really hope people tonight. The pawns wherever they are are to do what they can to stay. Say and i mean eh that their lives are on line and so are some of my friends who are doing this and hospital absolutely and thank you for adding that dr. Peter go to return to the naked politics of this moment. We do after all have an incumbent. President still trying to overturn the results of an election. Tim alberta picked up this. He was reporting about the situation in michigan and got this quote attributed to the president. I don't get it. The president said venting confusion and frustration. All these other republicans all over the country. They win their races. And i'm the only guy that loses. What is the president missing here. Peter well what he's missing isn't back that he has separated himself from other politicians for four years actually longer than that. From the time he started running he had made clear. He does not see himself as a republican or a politician. In general he is an outsider. He is somebody who is disrupt the system In some ways his nomination his presidency was hostile takeover of one of the two american political parties. That's the phrase by the way. Hostile takeover jared kushner uses. And so you know. It's not surprising that it will make a distinction between him and other republicans. It doesn't mean that they rejected All of his policy doesn't mean. They rejected all republican policies. A lot of americans still believe in the things that the president stands for but they are As they have told us in the voting booth they were disappointed in his handling of the cova. They were disappointed in the way he has tried to divide the country. They were disappointed in his twitter Style they're pointed in the various ways that he has been accused of of misconduct. And i think that it's not surprising that people could make a distinction between one and the other jason. I've got something to play for you. This is former congressman and host of morning. Joe joe scarborough with nicole wallace earlier whether you like susan collins or not. The people of maine elected her. By nine percentage points they voted for joe biden by nine percentage points. They gave republicans. I don't know how they gave kevin mccarthy's house more seats but they did. They wanted to check democrats and they want a joe biden in the white house to check republicans. So i have confidence that you know. There are still some people in the middle. Who will work with. Joe biden whether it susan collins or whether it's lisa murkowski or whether it's mitt romney on the republican side whether it's joe mansion mark kelly was governor hickenlooper on the democratic side. I believe there. Six seven eight people of goodwill that will work with joe biden and will actually forge a consensus. Oh we can finally get things done in washington. It's been a very long time. Since we've had regular order and enable the pass bills domestically that actually could move this country forward into the twenty first century we are we are stuck in this this partisanship and we have to move forward and do it and i think joe may be the perfect man for the perfect time to work with republicans and democrats alike. Hey jason i wanted folks to hear that but former congressman really know how to talk. So i'm tight on time A brief reaction from you will that give people hope no look. I love jodi death. But that's not gonna happen. I don't know where this mysterious gang of eight is that he thinks is going to appear that republican party under mitch. Mcconnell has made it clear that they want every democrat to be a one term president and trump can be mad that the country is just not that into him but they're still republicans who are living off that trump is base which says destroy anything. Joe biden wants to do there will be no peace. There will be no comedy. It will be a battle. The moment joe biden ascends to the presidency and dr patel. Same rules apply. I have seconds remaining. Should the number one focus of the incoming administration be getting the vaccine out and getting it into american arms absolutely and at the same time reassurance that we can help people get the economy out and the two. Go hand in hand. Allow me to wish you all and yours. A happy thanksgiving along with our. Thanks for helping us out. This thanksgiving eve pekar. Peter baker jason johnson. Dr kavita patel greatly. Appreciate it coming up for us. The lieutenant governor of the commonwealth of pennsylvania has a few things to say about the incumbent president's claims of voter fraud in his state. He's standing by to join us and later down ballot. Democrats had a rough election night. Now they need someone to lead the effort to keep control of the house in just two years. Who would want such a thankless job. Well the front runner is standing by to talk with us. As the eleventh hour is just getting underway on this busy thanksgiving eve. Way are not here to curse the darkness. We i light a candle. I'm chuck rosenberg on my podcast. The oath i talk with people who served with integrity honor men and women who liked the way. Our conversations on the oath are thoughtful civil respectful essential. We bring these leaders in their struggles and successes to life season for the oath returns on wednesday with former. Fbi director. Robert muller your. I thought thanks in rinker is your men. I keep my men safe. I was there to take care of harmen. Join me for season for the oath and msnbc podcast search for the oath wherever you are listening right now and subscribe new episodes. Everyone's hey everyone it's true mainly msnbc correspondent and host of the podcast into america. Kamala harris made his three as the first woman. First black and south asian vice president elect in this week's episode explore the little known story of place that shaped her identity the rainbow side. It was a black cultural centre in berkeley california. That opened its doors in nineteen seventy one and welcomed the likes of james baldwin nina simone shelly chisholm and a young black and indian girl named carmela. Wasn't there's one person that looks like you but here you have a building full of folks in various areas of expertise who had performed so well and done so well sir for into america wherever losing now and subscribe. Election was rigged. And we can't let that happen. We can't let it happen for our country and this election has to be turned around the president speaking via iphone today repeating baseless claims of voter fraud at a stage so hearing with pennsylvania republicans in a hotel ballroom. President said out loud over the phone he wanted to overturn the results of the election. The timing is curious. Pennsylvania officially certified. It's election results for joe biden today. Judge there issued a temporary order preventing quote further action to certify results. The attorney general. Josh shapiro responded by posting quote. This order does not impact. Yesterday's appointment of elect ors we will be filing an appeal with the pennsylvania supreme court momentarily with us for more john fetterman democratic lieutenant governor of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. Thank you so much for being with us. We realize you've got a lot on your plate no pun intended. What in you know what is going on in your commonwealth tonight. What's what's going on. I mean it really the same thing that's always been going on with the election. You know This amway convention slash carnival barking and snake handling at the. Ramada doesn't change any facts about joe biden winning it. And there's no additional voter fraud. Aside from the two cases that i've been talking about for the last three weeks there is actually nothing new under the sun. Joe biden wine. And what's curious. Is that if the rest of these down. Ballot races certified. By november thirtieth. We will have house opinion. House and half our senate terms expire. On november thirtieth. So there really is no endgame or getting these results turned over this is regarding your state your commonwealth You took an oath of office to hear a guy like rudy fly into your state and make claims of sweeping massive voter fraud must piss you off at a very deep level is it. Take take seriously because no really takes you. Know mr giuliani stereotype. Everyone knows how this moving on. And like i said it's it's it's bad. You know like weird pyramid scheme. Marketing thing at a all room at the ramada and and like this wasn't an official function of the pennsylvania. State senate on the on the president of the pennsylvania state senate there is no no nothing official about this this was simply just some weird rallying in a hotel ballroom designed to spread more information. Because that's all it is. All they had is lies. They've had over three weeks now to come up with anything concrete and they have. Where's the where's the voter fought not one single case of voter fraud. Aside from the to establish cases in pennsylvania which both involved republicans trying to vote for trump with the relatives whether they were dead or doing well at least. You've got republican lawmakers at the white house tonight where they make the covid fresh. They'll becoming back home after that gathering this evening. How does this year opposition party the repub the republican party in pennsylvania. After this do you think they'll be healthier or poor for having been dragged through this process in some cases helping lead this process. I understand there's elements in the republican party that need to pander to this to this lunatic fringe. Death cult is part of the republican party. Now and now. I hope we had a good time at the white house. It's not going to change anything. So this idea that they have somehow uncovered any fraud or there wasn't any fraud is absurd. The governor certified the presidential election results for joe biden. Back can't be changed and these down ballot races if they're not certified we don't have a house or our state senate and those are controlled by republicans. So they're literally trying to make the argument that there was fraud with joe biden's race but my race that was there was no fraud in my and that ray so it's absolutely no basis in reality but that's never stopped them from lying but again we have long past the point of turning our backs collectively on this. This you know yelling fire in a crowded theatre when there is no fraud. It's absolutely ally. It's not a dispute. It's an absolute lie. Designed to damage the american franchise in pennsylvania. It's not going to change anything because we all know that. Joe biden is the president elect no matter how many like i said amway convention. They have in hotel. Ballrooms across pennsylvania avenue want to ignore what is the actual lead story in pennsylvania today. I'm very sorry for the game postponement. I am so looking forward to seeing those quarterbacks opposite each other. you're steelers are tannen. We get to see it on sunday. Were knocking on wood. Everybody's healthy Thank you very much. Lieutenant governor the commonwealth of pennsylvania. John fetterman for joining us. Happy thanksgiving to you and your family as well. Thanks for having Yes the steelers are undefeated so bad that we have to be thankful for for sure. Got that going for you. Thank you lieutenant governor. Coming up for us no pressure. Our next guest is said to be the front runner for job among his fellow congressional democrats that his party is hoping we'll be job that averts potential disaster for them in the midterm elections again. No fresher last night here. We featured an interview conducted by axios with congressman cardenas of california. He's in the running to head up the d. triple c. The democratic congressional campaign committee hugely powerful within the house because of its recruiting function and fundraising only problem was year humble and bumbling host made it sound like he already had the job. Somehow when in fact house democrats haven't voted yet and went in fact a good number of onlookers contend. The front runner for the job is democratic congressman. Sean patrick maloney of new york. He's just been elected to his fifth term in a seat. He originally flipped in a district. Where trump won but where the voters liked maloney's message and split the ticket and so with apologies for getting his irish up. We are happy. To welcome congressman. Sean patrick maloney back onto the broadcast tonight. Congressman you're good to come on thank you very much. Is it a and overstatement when you read the political politico headline that this job is the job needed to avert disaster for the democrats and further. Tell the good people watching the package of life experiences that you would bring to the role as opposed to your friend and former classmate and colleague in the house. Well look i you know. First of all i don't. I don't accept the premise. That democrats are somehow or on their on their heels. Twenty twenty two. I think we have a message and a focused on kitchen table issues. That mattered most american families. Whether it's the pandemic or health care or jobs are good wages. I think we can. We can fight this battle and win it. I think we're going to have a popular president and the places we need to win. That's great. i think we're going to have a recovering economy and god willing in the rear view mirror so i think execution is not And whether the cockatoos is me or my friend tony communist We're gonna make a little history in terms of inclusion in senior house leadership but more importantly we're going to have someone who internalizes all the voices of our caucus develops a battle plan and and wins and that is what i'm offering to my democratic colleagues If they give me this job we're going to hold this majority and you can write it down. Okay you know. The math is steep that. You like your chances. You know that speaker pelosi. He's gonna get handed. The slimmest majority in decades you know what happens in midterm elections with newly elected presidents. But your point is that in the places where they love them. Some joe biden. You guys feel you can run up the score if you change your messaging and perhaps present a different face of the democrats in congress. I think it's too soon to make specific events like that You know. I ran the after action report where we were at a similar crossroads. We listen to all the voices developed about a plan. We won forty seats. I didn't do that ben. Ray luhan did it speaker. Pelosi did it. A lotta great candidates did it but we were able to architect the strategy. We can do that again. The fact is is that we are much more instinct with the everyday needs of working families like the one. I grew up in Then then the reading. And whether they picked my friend. Tony cardinal or or or. Sean patrick maloney a. We're going to link arms and go forward together because the red team is coming for all of us and we're not gonna let that happen. We are going to support this new president. We're going to develop a positive Kitchen table agenda around people's jobs and health care and and and and things like you know getting kids back to school and opening our businesses responsibly. And we are going to offer solutions and if we have to execute better and communicate like human beings well so be it I'm not i'm not. I'm not afraid to speak my mind. And i do believe that there is more opportunity than ever. This is a hopeful time as we gather around the thanksgiving table. And look how. Close close council horseshoes not in control of the house The republicans are acting like they one we have the gal the end and and yes a little closer but they failed and they failed. They gotta beat for the white house. They got speech for the house Mitch mcconnell better. Watch his back He he he's got to get out of the stone ages and start offering solutions now because there's a pincer movement that's going to happen between the united house democratic caucus and strong new president. And i'm excited about that final question and it's the dicey kind are democrats ready to own. How much damage. De-fund the police did as a phrase as a movement to races all over the country and to candidates and incumbents that nothing to do with it. Well i mean let's be careful first of all. The democratic house majority is not responsible for that rhetoric in fact no one's responsible except the minneapolis police officer who murdered. George floyd and a lot of people thought that was wrong. And we're right to point out the his historic and systemic problem with racism in america. And i think that about racism counts to a lot of my neighbors even though trump district and of course we're going to support good police but because there are our voices that call for for things that we don't support or because our republican opponents want to lie and caricature that And we should not confuse that with what we support if it falls on us to get what we actually believe in out better That's fair but don't blame us because they're lying about what we stand for. My goodness the fact of the matter is is that we held control of the house and and there are a. There are many things that we can do. Better lord note in the digital era in organizing and the community and addressing You know the the complexities of the many latino communities that differ in south florida or the rio grande valley or new york california and yes You know the justice and policing act named after george. Floyd is a good piece of legislation. I was proud to support it. In my trump district. I won by double digits for the third time in a row. That's a tall order as a gay guy. And i think we can communicate and win and stand for something so i'm not gonna run away from trying to change what's wrong in america just because of budget people on the red team we're gonna lie about it and caricature it and i'd ask that you not adopt their language. No i know. I was asking because it had been a fixed to candidates who had nothing to do with the messaging and some of them very little to do with the movement. Your house colleague. Max rose down in staten island. It got hung around him in a very effective ad campaign that he tried to counter but Too late this necessarily means we're going to have you back on to continue this conversation The man the latest casual knows count as as the front runner for the d triple c job. Our thanks to congressman. Sean patrick maloney. Congratulations on your re election. We wish you and your family. The happiest thanksgiving thanks congressman for coming on thank you. They said coming up for us. We'll talk to the noted historian who famously said just weeks ago. Our country has just survived a very close call even with all the damage. Still being done. I had to describe president obama and one word just kept doing a word. Word empathetic tough pragmatic. Calm the minute sir. Well no. I'm not gonna say that on tape. Nice guy complicated wisdom with compassion. That will be steady. I would describe rock. Obama single word. American people asked to describe the former president. And let me explain. Why what that's from beginning this friday. This network is presenting a multi part primetime documentary series on barack obama and his legacy as told by those of us who covered him those who know him best. Those who worked for him served alongside him. Let's talk legacies with the most quoted man on this broadcast the celebrated author and presidential historian. Michael beschloss his latest work is president of war. It is part of what long ago became the beschloss shelf in our house Michael great to see you. Thanks for coming on. I was thinking of you today. Vis-a-vis a photo. I have ready to show you and our audience fairly well known. As the last time our country had five presidents in the oval office and the big deal when this was published was that to the far right. Jimmy carter was a man apart. He was the which doesn't belong in. Why in this photo. Because he is different fundamentally in so many ways from his colleagues but go forward from this. Can you see donald trump pun intended standing for this kind of collegial event. This kind of post presidential tradition. No i can't. Brian and the main reason for that is that as tonight. Donald trump has virtually no relationship with any former president. He's john them he has said he doesn't need to go to them for advice because their failures and i think the result of this may very well be in the future that when there are gatherings of former presidents. He will not be there. That's what happened to richard nixon after his resignation from the one thousand nine hundred seventy four until his death. Nixon was never included in a republican convention. Nor did he attend inauguration. I haven't had a chance to debrief you after your comment that you made on this network when the outcome of the election became apparent. You said we come close. Tell our audience what you mean. Well i think. American democracy went through a near death experience. I think donald trump has been elected to a second term without the constraint of having to run again you would have seen authoritarianism in. This country tried in a way that we had not seen before. There were a lot of hints of it in the first term and i shudder to think what it would have been like especially in a second term when the senate was still held by republicans. Who even at this point after he's loft lost the election are amazingly deferential for the families have been affected by this virus even for folks who will gather tomorrow just as couples missing. Their kids missing their extended family. This is a dark thanksgiving. But i also following you on twitter these past several days. You've been chronicling. What was happening. What was thanksgiving nineteen sixty three. Like just one. We think we're living through a dark thanksgiving ourselves in this country. Well american emotions had brutalized by the assassination of president. Kennedy was forty six years old something that people had not seen in their lifetimes the assassination of a president especially one so young with young children and image after image of his widow who is thirty four years old. Jackie has two children caroline who was six years old and john who is three on the day of his father's funeral. That was the kind of thing that americans had not seen before. In retrospect all these decades later. I think americans look back and say that in all sorts of ways. America has never been the same since. And let's end this segment where we started. You can use more than one word but especially in hindsight that four years on the trump presidency has given us. What's the first draft of how you look back on. Barack obama as president. Well look what his contemporaries of just done this month. They just elected his chosen vice president joe biden by millions of popular votes. People are voting for barack obama with their feet. And i think the result will be important for him because no longer. Will you have a president. Falsely saying for four years when i came in after obama is heritage a mess and falsely saying barack obama was spying on me and all the rest. You'll see a president of the united states. joe biden. Who treats barack obama with the respect he deserves will welcome back to the white house for the first time in four years hang his portrait hang the portrait of michelle obama and i think the full circle will have been completed and bronco baba. We'll get the kind of hearing front of history that he's deserved since he laughed but because of the last four years has not got happy. Thanksgiving my friend to you and yours my friend. Thank you happy thanksgiving to your family. And you brian michael beschloss our guest tonight coming up for us for the few the proud the brave. Those who are traveling to be with others on thanksgiving. We have a guide how to stay safe if you must right after this. Hey everyone. it's chris. As you know these days i find it helpful to just take a step back from the day to day onslaught of news and take a broader. Look at the issues. I haven't had time to cover my tv. 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Support for impeachment grows after Mueller testimony

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Support for impeachment grows after Mueller testimony

"Cars and Jerry Nadler Represents Ground Zero the nine eleven attack on the World Trade Center occurred in Jerry Nadler's congressional district Jerry Nadler was the first elected official to raise concerns about the toxic fumes that first responders were exposed to and the rubble of nine eleven when they were trying to rescue people buried under the debris including in some cases their friends and relatives Jerry Nadler was a co-sponsor of the nine eleven victim's compensation fund bill which President Trump signed and into law today in the Rose Garden working told a new lie about nine eleven because Donald Trump cannot speak about nine eleven with outlying we will show you the new lie that Donald Trump told about nine eleven today at the end end of this hour and remind you of his other vicious and pathological lies about nine eleven we will hear Jerry Nadler's reaction to Donald Trump's latest fly about nine eleven when he joins us as our first guest tonight he was last year a month. After the Democrats won back the House representatives and a month before he took up the gavel of chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. My first questions to Congressman Nadler back in December were about impeachment and my first questions tonight to Chairman Napa will be about impeachment in his twenty sixth year in the House representatives. Jerry Nadler has become the fourth chairman in the two hundred six year history of the House Judiciary Committee to to be handed the house judiciary chairman most solemn duty and heaviest burden to consider whether the hustle representatives should impeach the president of the United States yesterday. Chairman Nadler said this we are investigating whether to report <hes> whether to approve articles of impeachment. That's that are before the committee when we will make that determination you would think if donald trump was going to spend the weekend attacking a member of the House representatives a chairman it would be the chairman who has announced that he is investigating the possible impeachment of the president but that is not who donald trump chose to attack this weekend he chose to attack one of the three chairman of the three most important committees that are investigating Donald Trump and the trump White House here they are at a press conference on Wednesday after Robert Muller testified to the House Judiciary Committee and then the House Intelligence Committee chaired by German Adam Schiff terminal the logic cummings was also at that press conference. Even though Robert Mueller did not testify his committee that day because Chairman Cummings is conducting multiple investigations of Donald Trump and the trump administration and the house oversight committee turn Cummings last week. Let a committee committee vote to authorize subpoenas for senior White House officials communications be a private email accounts and messaging applications including the electronic communications of the president's daughter and the president's son-in-law who have been repeatedly a using private email for government purposes for which Donald Trump and everyone supporting his campaign last time said Hillary Clinton should be locked up that was the basis of their locker up chant surely Donald Trump does care care about his daughter being exposed for doing a much worse version of what Hillary Clinton was accused of doing by using private email for government communications but Donald Trump cares much more about the possibility that he will be impeached still he chose to spend the weekend attacking Elijah Cummings Not Jerry Nadler the president fired off tweets about chairman comings and his Congressional district calling it the worst congressional district in the country without saying what worst means what could it be about illogic cummings that makes Donald Trump Wanna spend the entire weekend attacking him. Why Not Adam Schiff? Why Not Jerry now what is it about illogic Cummings awnings what could possibly be leading off our discussion? Tonight is Democratic Congressman Gerry Nabet of New York. He is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee Mr Chairman. Thank you very much for joining us again tonight. Thank you and let me just start with what we all saw saw the president do with Elijah Cummings this weekend in this tweet ramp on and on what is your interpretation of that interpretation is it's it's racist and discussing and discussing thing attack and it was designed to whip up racist sentiment which the president is hoping to basis reelection. You've been watching him here in New York since he got in trouble with the Justice Department over racial discrimination in housing practices his father <hes> there's no surprise to you. I don't think in any of this does it look to you like this is the campaign. This is the trump presidential campaign. <hes> try to not don't leave a single racist possible. Vote certainly seems that's a very large wjr part of the of the trump campaign making no attempt to reach out anybody behind his his his so-called base his base. He is betraying his base in terms of all the economics. He's handing you know he's opposed to minimum wage in Greece opposed with any kind of health and safety regulations for the Working People. He's not bringing back manufacturing jobs. He's doing everything against their interests but he is appealing to People's native is and that's what this whole immigration things all bad is appealing to People's native ISM and their racial show another prejudices. Now you've said over the weekend and you've said since since Friday that the committee is considering articles of impeachment are these the articles that some members have introduced and tried to bring to a vote in the house some have been referred to your committee said since well before Friday he finally picked up on we said it in the notices for hearings we held back on July twelfth yeah there there are articles of impeachment that referred by various members that we're introduced by various members of the committee. I'm sorry of the House several months ago that referred to the Committee and obviously we are investigating all of the president's crimes and violations the constitution and we we will present them to the American people and we will do what we have to and we will then consider whether report those articles of impeachment or some new articles of impeachment which we may draft for ourselves to the floor and you said essentially that or a shorter version of that in legal filings seeking the underlying evidentiary material material in the mall report so you're telling judge <hes> that we are considering the impeachment of impeachment procedure against does president so. We need this information yes so we need this information. We're a grand jury information. You can't get the court of Appeals and in Washington ruled that you don't have inherent right the grand jury information unless you come within one of the statutory the exceptions one of the statutory exceptions is a judicial proceeding in impeachment is a judicial preliminary through judicial proceeding and we've told the court that we're in that we are investigating possible oil article one remedies and possibly possibly <hes> recommendation of of of impeachment drizzle of impeachment articles to the floor and on the same basis <hes> we're going into court this week <hes> <hes> to to enforce subpoena against Miss <hes> former white S. Gansel Mcginn and we'll be telling the court that <hes> the enforcement of that subpoenas absolutely necessary in our investigation of possible impeachment articles and when we first discussed us in December I made the point that basically and introducing introducing the here is the person's GonNa have the unique power to initiate impeachment proceedings and as you've pointed out over the weekend. There's more than one way to do this. I think a lot of people have fallen into the belief that the entire House has to pass a resolution resolution asking you to start impeachment or authorizing you to it. That's one way that's a version of that has happened in the past version but also just start at yourself. Well there have been impeachments have been started in several ways. Even the Nixon impeachment the house <hes> directed the the Judiciary Committee to do an impeachment <hes> investigate impeachment articles that six months after the committee started doing that yes there have been number number of impeachments where there has never made made such a vote impeachments various judges that went through with the community on its own initiative and we certainly have ample power to do that and we're doing it might might that be the way this if this moves to formal <hes> consideration of articles of impeachment where are in okay go ahead situation of articles of impeachment among other remedies is no such thing as formal consideration. We are considering we we are investigating the actions of the president we have impeachment resolutions on filed the committee we may introduce others and at the conclusion of our investigations we will either vote on those impeach and resolutions or go not maybe we'll vote on essential or something but we're all being considered now so in other words. This looks a lot. This could look a lot like the legislative process might on some sort of a criminal justice legislation moving through your committee which is to say you're investigating some kind of criminal justice reform and after having a bunch of informational hearings about it at a certain point the chairman just comes out with basically a schedule saying we're going to have a vote on these reforms on a given day so essentially we could at some point down the road. <hes> have a day where Chairman Nadler announces that he is going to schedule a vote on two three for whatever it is articles of impeachment on X. Date at time release those articles and and that will be the moment it's well that'd be the moment for the vote yes right but the but everything leading up to that is what people would think of as as an impeachment richman inquiry. Well people can think what they want. Everything leading up in that is the process that leads up to possible voting on articles of impeachment we have to you know we've accomplished several things I think number one last week with smaller hearings <hes> despite the press is saying well he wasn't the Rockstar and so forth. That's not important what's important is that we broke the logjam of the lies being told by the attorney general by the president that the findings were of Muller report with no no collusion no obstruction and total exoneration all three those are not true. The mother report found after investigations very clearly that the Russians attacked our our democracy that in order. Ready to help the trump campaign that the trump campaign welcomed that help worked with the Russians formed their messaging strategy around anticipated releases of information stolen by the Russians at certain periods as of time that the president lied to investigators and lights the American people that he told other people to lie to investigators all of those very serious crimes of obstruction of justice so you now have the report and I think this word will seep out that they found very serious evidence a very serious crimes by the president when president plus they're working with the Russians to subvert an American election which is another serious crime and we we have to look into this now. We have to lay out more evidence before the American people. We have to get the witnesses. The Mullahs report is a summary of what other witnesses told them we have to get the same witnesses Don mcgann hope Hicks Corey Lewandowski and other people come in to and testify. We are breaking the law Jim. This is what I allegations is designed to do to break the logjam of the administration. Doing what was unprecedented. Deny all congressional subpoenas denying all information Nixon did much less than that in terms of proposing subpoenas and that was article three of the impeachment of Nixon this president set right out front. He's going to deny all subpoenas but we have to break that logjam and we were in the strongest strongest position of doing so when we can honestly tell the court we're doing so for the purpose of considering how to discipline the president whether we need whether we should vote articles of impeachment more and more members of the house want to move into away vote on articles of impeachment. We're now up to one hundred what well over one hundred nine something like that today. There seems to have been significant movement since the Muller hearing what what what is the what is the point into this counters there. Is there a spot. We're going to get to in that number where something changes in the dynamic in the house well. I don't know that the specific number is that important but obviously the more the more members of the house say that we we should vote in articles impeachment or even just having a an inquiry the more the easier it is politically to do it now. This should not be political issue but it is political to some extent because it's not traditional national but it makes it easier and it shows the increasing number of members who have seen this serious nature of the allegations of the series evidence here and also we've seen in back home that people are paying attention are getting more involved in this because ultimately the American people. If we're GONNA vote articles of impeachment the American people have to be in a position to support that Nancy Pelosi seems more reluctant to go in this direction than the new from my observation having worked in the Senate for a committee chairman. It is common for a leader of one of the bodies to be a slightly different posture on something then a chairman that happens in multiple directions all the time. Where do you see yourself? Interns say the lawsuit that we brought last Friday to get the to get the grand jury material the less that we're bringing this week begins testimony and if we break mcgann we'll get everybody else's testimony because the same legal issue they could not have been brought without the strong support of Speaker Pelosi they being brought by the House counsel which is office which is controlled by the speaker not by the champion judicial every committee and Speaker Pelosi is just as determined urban to hold this president accountable anyone all right. Let me just go to something before you go. which is the president's nine eleven lie today? I JUST WANNA show this to the audience before we discussed. Many of those affected were firefighters police Lisa offices and other first responders and I was down there also but I'm not considering myself. I responded but I was down there. I spent a lot of time down there with you. Since September eleventh we <hes> that was the an audience that had a lot of people who were down there. <hes> none of them clapped for that indicating that they don't believe he was down there and some of the people who were there told the New York Times after it's no he was not down there. I was there not all the time I never saw him there. <hes> I thought would <hes> with the federal government did in the aftermath of the nine eleven disaster was shameful. I fold no-one for working on the pile without proper respiratory equipment the first three days when he may have been saving people in the might have been people still buried there but after three days it was a clean up not a rescue operation and you had the the head of the EPA and the mayor of the city New York for that matter assuring everybody there were safe to breathe and we knew perfectly well. It was not S. H. B.. I always telling people don't send your kids back to school. Don't go to work there. Don't work on the pile because what made you think that at that point well because you went down the down there you smelt smelt while you smelled it obviously but you saw the dust all over everything you knew that they had to be as best as that'd be fine part of concrete the first two days that they were saying that the safe debris. We really didn't have the scientific data we you just said suspicions after that. We knew they were lying. We had the scientific that we had environmental groups telling us and people were being told you could save to work. They're safe to go back to school there. It's it's safe to work on the pile. It was yeah I it was not only unjustified was manslaughter manslaughter on the part of the federal government and the mayor of the city at that point to to allow people to tell people it was safe when we knew wasn't safe and people are dying and we'll continue to die because of that today term Jerry now. Thank you very much for joining us. I really appreciate thank you and when we come back we have new polling tonight on the eve of the next Democratic presidential debate and later Mitch McConnell is very very upset and he went to the floor the United States Senate to talk about the comments that he has found so upset hint those comments were not made by Donald Trump. Hi It's Katy Tur- WanNa keep up with M._S._N._B._C. While you're on the go subscribe to the M._S._N._B._C. Daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed. During this unprecedented era of news text M._S._N._B._C. to six six eight six to subscribe Donald Trump won the electoral college with Russia's help as the mullahs report shows and it seems Donald Trump wants Russia's help again for his reelection campaign and that could be why Dan Coats now that he has left the director of National Intelligence will be replaced. If Donald Trump has his way by this guy you manage to violate every principal and the most sacred of traditions about prosecutors not offering extra prosecutorial analysis about potential crimes that aren't charged so Americans need to know this as they listen to the Democrats and Socialists on the other side of the I'll tonight N._B._C.. News is reporting that there is no legal record of Congressman Radcliffe participating in any terrorism prosecutions when he served in the Bush Justice Department in Texas even though the cars wins website claims he quote put terrorists terrorists in prison. If Donald Trump manages to get Texas congressman John Ratcliffe confirmed by the Senate as his next director of national intelligence the president will continue his record breaking pace of a pointing inexperienced a an utterly incompetent people to his administration and his cabinet joining us now is Brett mcgurk who served in senior national security positions under presidents Bush Obama and president trump. He is also a senior foreign affairs analyst for N._B._C.. News and M._S._N._B._C.'s also joining US Democratic Garnishment Seth Molten from Massachusetts a member of the Armed Services Committee. He's also a Democratic candidate for president. Let me start with you and your reaction to the possibility of Congressman Ratcliffe is being the next head of the intelligence operations of this country. The most important conclusion of Robert Muller's investigation is that Russia attacked the United States and what John rackliff did to earn this nomination donation is undermine Robert Muller in the United States Congress. He's playing politics with a national security issue and that is the last thing we need a director of national intelligence who we should have is someone like will hurt fellow congressman who actually had the courage edge to ask tough pointed questions about Russia whether Russia will will infiltrate meddle in the twenty twenty elections Rubber Muller said Yes they will and oh by the way will hurt his also a former C._i._A.. Officer he actually has a background in intelligence which this John Ratcliffe does not but he didn't do anything that hearing that please the president that's right and so once again the president is getting rid of people who will tell the truth and replacing them with people who play politics. This is a national security issue. This is why we need to take on Donald Trump as as commander-in-chief not just as president but as commander in chief in that in this race. That's what I'm doing in this presidential race. I actually think it's where donald trump is weakest. It's also just fundamental to our national security. We need to show how we need to keep America Safe Brett. This happens only if the United States Senate confirms the President's nominee but this senate has not been requiring much by way of qualification for trump nominees well. It's interesting and I I very much agree with the excellent points to seth just made but there's a statute here for y disposition was craters created after the attacks of nine eleven and the First Section of the statute that creates the Oh deny says the director of National <hes> intelligence shall have extensive national security experience. That's a statutory requirement so that's something obviously by the Senate is going to pick up. I just want to echo what set said. This is such an important position. I mean I've been multiple meetings in the situation room and what the Director of National Intelligence does is. He frames the meeting at the beginning of each meeting. It is the Odeon I that office that principal who basically lays out the facts of the situation that the president and his advisors have to decide and these are the most weighty consequential quench matters our country faces such as a and you're sitting there with the real hero on your set a sending men and women off to to foreign conflicts so this is an extremely consequential appointments and I think the Senate has some real due diligence to do <hes> listen to what John Brennan had to say about this no sense that trump is looking for somebody to speak truth to him about all of these challenges around the globe that really threaten our national security and Mr Ratcliffe does not give me any confidence. Sit All that he's going to be able to direct men and women of the Intel's community to do what they need to do. At this troubling time set it may be all up to Mitch McConnell. A lot of things are today's world which is why we got to get rid of Mitch McConnell <hes> but you know bread is absolutely right. These are national security issues and one of the things that is true about any leadership position but especially President United States. Is You have to have people around you who are going to tell you the bad news. That's a quote from John F. Kennedy. He said you've got to have people who are going to tell you the bad news tell you the truth and not play politics with something as as as as fundamental as keeping our country safe and these decisions about whether we put young men and women into combat combat and whether we respect the work of our intelligence professionals who are risking their lives every single day to keep us safe every intelligence agency in the United States government concluded that Russia attack the United States but we have a president who who would rather trust Putin Dan Coats. I don't agree with them on everything but he was willing to stand up to the president and tell the president when he was wrong. That's obviously why he resigned. I'm not sure John Ratcliffe will do the same breadth. There's a lot the jobs in the federal government that where you can install as the boss someone who has no idea what they're doing or even someone who has bad intentions but as long as that person is surrounded by people who do have honorable intentions do you have experienced and do know how to control the ball that person at the top can sometimes be rendered harmless. Is this one of those jobs. I really don't think so. This is not the kind of job where you can kind of learn on the job I I mean the reason that this job was created is that this is the job that prioritizes that collects and that sets basically deprioritization of all the intelligence coming into the U._S. government from sixteen different intelligence agencies and basically delivers the presidential daily brief to the president every day so it is one of the most important jobs in government. It's in the shadows that statute I mentioned says at this position shall not sit and the executive officer. The president is supposed to be independent because you have to do exactly what's this seth that said <hes> tell the president the truth when I was on the National Security Council to President Bush spending some time the Oval Office. I asked his new chief of Staff Josh Bolten you know any advice and he said Yeah tell the president the truth in five minutes every morning. That's what you have have to do to protect the country. That's what presidents deserve and obviously. I think there's some pause about this appointment and I hope the Senate the Senate does this job with you here as a member of Congress two things I want to touch very quickly impeachment. You've already said you're in favor of absolutely in fact I was the first person this entire presidential field to not only come out in favor of of having this impeachment investigation but actually actually voting for it and Congress back in December of two thousand seventeen and I understand the political arguments for why it's tough on the politics are difficult. I get the fact that the polling is not with us yet but how much is doing the right thing by the constitution the constitution that is sworn oath to protect and defend. I didn't swear to protect and defend the politics of my party or the politics of the two thousand twenty election I swore an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States and that's what we have to do here. It's up to US Democrat now to uphold the law to have this impeachment inquiry because the laws actually very simple muller made it clear that he didn't think he could prosecute the president but if the president breaks the law you hold impeachment proceedings. I don't know why Democrats are so afraid to do. The oath you took is to defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic is is donald trump in domestic enemy of the constitution. I think he is and when you have a commander in chief. Let's just a present but a commander in chief who's more interested in listening to Russia than our own intelligence it professionals. What message does that send to a country of of people who volunteer serve at our military people like I mean Brett Brent was our man on the ground in Iraq for many years? That's how I got to know him and he he is working every day to understand what we need to do an incredibly difficult place like a rock. What does it say to him if he believes that? The commander in chief won't listen to what he says because he'd rather listened to the political interpretations of his new Director of National Intelligence. That's what's at stake here. That's what's at stake in this election. It's why we need to take on Donald trump not just as president but has commander in chief. I believe he's been derelict in his duty to keep this country. Safe cars molten gets the last word in this discussion Brett mcgurk. Thank you for joining us shit and when we come back we have new polling tonight in the Democratic presidential campaign on the eve of the next debate and later Donald Trump's new lie about nine eleven. We will take a look at it. We we will analyze it. We will take a look at what we can. We think we can see him thinking when he's telling that lie a new Quinnipiac Yeah poll shows Joe Biden returning to a strong lead in the Democratic field of presidential candidates and that poll Joe Biden has moved back up to thirty four percent. That's up twelve points in the Quinnipiac poll from earlier this month Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren Orne is in second position in that poll with fifteen percent. That's a one point in the last month. Kamala Harris is at twelve percent and that is down eight points from the last Quinnipiac Poll Bernie Sanders is in fourth position in the poll now at eleven eleven percent down two points from the last Quinnipiac poll and Pete Buddha judges that six percent that is up two points from the last Quinnipiac poll today Senator Harris released her own Medicare for all proposal that is of course different from the Medicare for all proposal introduced by Senator Bernie Sanders in the Senate that is co sponsored by Senator Elizabeth Warren and Senator Kamala Harris unlike Senator Sanders Plan Senator Harrison's proposal would reserve <music> a role for private insurance as Supplement to Medicare Elizabeth Warren is also with a new international trade plan today would she discussed during a town hall in Toledo Ohio. We've had a trade policy basically for decades and it kind of boils down to this do whatever the giant multinational corporations want America to do in Warren Administration you who's GonNa be in the room to negotiate. It's going to be Labor. Small businesses environmentalists people care about human rights after a break we will get into the presidential campaign with near attendant and Jonathan Kaye part. We'll be right back today. Presidential candidate Senator Harris was asked about Donald Trump's weekend of racist attacks on Congressman Elijah Cummings. He is doing what he has done on from the time he became a candidate which he is trying to five this country. He's trying to divide this country. He's trying to say it's US versus them that is not reflective of a leader and certainly not an American leader but the American people are smarter than that I believe in the American people and we know that that's not reflective of who we are. We know that the vast majority of us have so much more in common on what separates US Djurgarden discussion now is near a tendon. She's a former senior advisor to President Obama. She was on the staff of Hillary Clinton's first presidential campaign. She is president and C._E._O.. Of the Center for American Progress Jonathan Kaye parts with us. He's an opinion right for the Washington Post and M._S._N._B._C. Contributor near as a presidential campaign veteran. What is it like on the eve of a presidential debate? When a new poll comes out that kind of reshapes the whole standing of things well? I actually think despite what the polls say what was clear from last <hes> the last debate is that you have to go into the debates and and really try to meet your campaign goals. which is I think for Mris candidates is to show that they are ready to go toe-to-toe with Donald Trump Kamla did that in the last debate <hes> I think she'll have opportunity to do that in the coming days in the next debate but I think each of these candidates tomorrow and the next day one a show that they are ready not not for the fight they will have with Democrats truly with to prepare to actually take on trump as we see today is really streetfighter? Jonathan your reaction to the new poll well. It is kind of interesting that ah the vice president vice-president Biden has gone up but that Senator Harris has gone down as the poll showed minus aid but I looked at the fine print at the bottom where you have the margin of error and I went back to the Q. Polls announcement cement press release about this poll and it's plus or minus five percentage points on a sample size. It's just about five hundred five hundred sixty Democrats are lean Democrat and so that's a very that's that's very volatile aw and so I think going into I mean seeing these numbers. It gives you sort of an idea where the races but with the margin of margin of error that big and a dropped so big for for Senator Harris and for some of the for some of the other candidates I I think the race might be a little a little closer to what the old numbers were but going into this debate these debates is the same as it was going into the first set of debates and that is vice president. Biden is the front runner in this campaign. He has Straw is very strong support and to nearest point tomorrow. All the candidates are going to have to make the case but especially the ones on the stage with Vice President Biden on the second night are going to have to try to do things say things that dampen his support or at least make people give them a second look and near one of the very important elements of this poll which is actually consistent with many other polls and that is the question of Donald Trump definitely vote for donald trump thirty two percent consider voting for Donald Trump twelve percent which would put him up at a maximum to forty four percent and then this stunning number. Amber definitely not vote for trump fifty four percent near as you know and campaigning the hardest thing you can possibly try to do in campaigning is changed the mind of someone who says I definitely Lee will not vote for you. Yeah I mean this is this is a war flashing red light for the trump campaign and I think honestly one of the reasons why Mitch McConnell doesn't WanNa pass an election security bill is because because I I honestly believe they think they need outside help for this because a fifty four percent do not <hes> will not support really under any circumstances is really a problem for any campaign and I want to underscore one additional point when you look at the numbers numbers actually forty nine percent of white voters are saying that they will absolutely not support him and only thirty eight percent are saying they will support him so after all this racism where a lot of pundits said Ed that it's actually going to help him with white voters and it's actually you know super smart ploy to to invoke his base. What you're seeing is that he's actually repelling a majority of the country from his divisive have racist rhetoric and you know I think the challenge for the trump campaign is donald trump himself in the person that he is is just used to dividing and not adding? It's you know playing this kind of us. US versus them politics which I think the country is hopefully very tired and Jonathan. It seemed <hes> the president his campaign this weekend was he doesn't want to leave a single possible racist vote for him behind yeah. It's stunning that a man who burst onto the national political scene by questioning the the citizenship of the first African American President who announced his campaign on June twenty June sixteenth two thousand fifteen by saying within the first two minutes that Mexicans were rapists the idea that there were more stones too intern is incredible so this weekend was just bizarre and bananas a house to describe near attendant. Thanks for joining US tonight really appreciate and when we come back Mitch McConnell is very very upset. He had to go to the Senate floor because there was something he desperately needed to talk about on the floor. It wasn't legislation that was comments upset Him and it was not something president trump's Mitch McConnell rush to the Senate floor today to expresses outrage over Donald Trump's racist weekend rant against Congressman Elijah Cummings. I there's something I need to address now. It wasn't the trump weekend of public racist rants that didn't bother the majority leader of the United States Senate one bit he didn't care about that hasn't said a word about that. Here is what Mitch McConnell felt he had to urgently address over the last several days. I was called unpatriotic. Uh un-american and essentially treasonous by a couple of left wing pundits not me not guilty didn't do it. The smear that I am unquote a Russian asset ran in the opinion pages of the Washer impose. The accusation that I'm quote on American was broadcast on M._S._N._B._C. This this is the state Mr President of left wing politics and twenty nine thousand nine. No it's not the person who called Mitch McConnell un-american on M._S._N._B._C. on Friday which provoked Mitch McConnell to go to the Senate floor today to complain about about it is not a left winger. He is a former Republican congressman. I WanNa talk about Moscow. Mitch Moscow Mitch says it's a hoax how can Moscow Mitch so so willingly turn a blind eye. Moscow Mitch Wild even let the Senate take a vote on it is on American. He's Moscow Mitch. Joe Scarborough called Him Moscow Mitch Sixteen Eighteen Times Friday morning when I was watching morning Joe Joe Scarborough was objecting to the very same thing that Washington Post columnist Dana millbank was objecting to in his column entitled. Mitch McConnell is a Russian asset then a millbank is not a left-winger Dana millbank is not a partisan political columnist then a millbank who has now found his way into the congressional record through Mitch McConnell's Complaining Speech Today said that Mitch McConnell is a Russian asset because he his blocking legislation requiring presidential campaigns to report any offers of assistance from foreign governments to the F._B._I.. Then a millbank wrote this about Mitch McConnell. Presumably he thinks whatever influence Russia exerts over U._S.. Elections will benefit him. He's up for reelection in two thousand twenty and his party so the lesson of the day is do not dare hair call Mitch McConnell a Russian asset or un-american or Moscow Mitch because if you do he just might repeat some of your words into the congressional record where your words will live forever trump. Did it again today. He did what he always does. When he talks about nine eleven he lied this time he told them new lie and the proof that it is ally is right there in the video recording of what the president said the proof is the silence after the president said it a silent that speaks the truth to the president's lie today Donald Trump Profane Louis and falsely tried to include himself among the very brave people who went to Ground Zero where the World Trade Center once stood and expose themselves ourselves to the toxic debris there that made so many of the first responders fall? Ill some fatally you. Here's president trump reading his teleprompter today at the bill signing of the nine eleven victim's compensation fund a bill. The president did absolutely nothing to help pass. Many of those affected were firefighters police officers and other first responders and I was down there also but I'm not considering myself myself. I responded but I was down. There spend a lot of time down there with you. Since September eleventh we have lost more than two thousand first responders survivors to nine eleven related cancers and illnesses you notice it's when the president goes off his teleprompter that he adds his grotesque lie. I was down there also but I'm not considering myself a first responder but I was down there. I spent a lot of time down there with you and that statement was greeted by silence from the people in that audience who were down there. If Donald Trump spent a lot of time down there with them they would have applauded instead the people who know the truth were silent Richard. All's was a deputy the chief with the New York Fire Department on nine eleven and was in the Rose Garden today. When the president lied to his face he told The New York Times today that he spent many months at Ground Zero and he never saw Donald Trump all's told the times he had vivid memories as of other people being there like Democratic Win Carolyn Maloney who was one of the sponsors of the bill that the president signed today but Caroline Maloney's office said that she was not invited to the White House bill signing? This is what makes Donald Trump such a pathological liar that he will lie directly to people who he knows knows the truth. Now we're going to run that video of the lie once again so that you can watch the pathological processes he goes through and I think what you will see on his face in the small space that he leaves for applause is the very quick realization that he is more likely to get booed for his deplorable lie and so he chooses to race on to the next next sentence in his teleprompter. Take another look. Many of those affected were firefighters. Police officers and other first responders and I was down there also but I'm not considering myself oh I responded but I was down there but a lot of time down there with you. Since September eleventh is not the worst lie. He's told about nine eleven his worst lie about nine eleven was ally he told only twice in about a twelve hour period area and then never told it again and the fact that he did not tell that lie again today is further proof that it is ally and it is a lie that he got away with because when you look at the lists of trump nine eleven lies that most news reports have assembled assembled today this lie isn't on most of those lists and so it remains the great forgotten trump lie about nine eleven in the South Carolina Republican primary debate. Donald Trump told the lie that he lost hundreds of friends on nine eleven. How did you keep us safe? When the World Trade Center World I lost hundreds of friends? I immediately tweeted that that was ally when when I heard him say at that night in the next day on meet the Press Donald Trump reduced his lie to quote many many friends I was there I was many many friends in that tragedy and I immediately tweeted that that was also ally and Donald Trump never said it again. Donald Trump lost zero friends on nine eleven Donald Trump attended zero nine eleven funerals zero not hundreds zero and and if Donald Trump had attended even a single nine eleven funeral if Donald Trump had lost even a single distant acquaintance on nine eleven you would have heard about that today. If Donald Trump lost many many friends on nine eleven you'd have heard about that today so Donald Trump's silence today about about his own lying claim of suffering the loss of hundreds of friends on nine eleven proves once again that he was lying when he tried to steal the grief of the people who lost loved ones on nine eleven and make that grief his own and it proves once again that Donald Trump will lie to anyone at any time in any place on any occasion no matter how sacred or solemn about anything I I'm cater and I'm Jacob Sober off. Katie are teaming up for a special four.

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Ep. 551 - Racists, Rapists, and Murderers

The Michael Knowles Show

49:36 min | 8 months ago

Ep. 551 - Racists, Rapists, and Murderers

"Joe BIDEN INFORMS FORTY MILLION BLACK AMERICANS. That if they support our president they ain't black is Joe Biden. A racist is Joe Biden rapist. Democratic Representative Ilhan. Omar says. She believes the woman accusing Biden him sexual assault but she's going to vote for Biden. Anyway and president trump accuses. Msnbc's Joe Scarborough of murdering staffer. Some heavy stuff to start the week Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles show. Are you all heard? The clip is Joe Biden. A racist does the word racist even mean anything after fifty years of being totally abused by the political left. We will play the clip for you and then we will play all of the many many excuses that the left is making for Joe because you know of course they are Joe Biden on this show with the radio character. Charlemagne the God and the interview was actually going fairly well. And then Joe Biden. Made this now infamous statement that if you do not know if you're gonNA vote for trump or for Joe Biden. Then you ain't black. I tell it if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for mayor trump and you ain't black so listen to what he's saying. What you saying is actually a little bit more radically than than what some people are suggesting. He's not saying that if you're a Republican in your black then you ain't black. He's not saying that. If you're not going to vote for me then you ain't black it actually even further than that. What he's saying is if you even have the slightest question as to whether or not you're gonNa vote for me if if it even enters into your mind that it would be possible to vote for a Republican. Then you ain't black in order to be authentically black. According to Joe Biden you have to be unconsciously democratic unconsciously. Left-wing obviously that is absurd the the craziest image of all the most absurd image of all is that Joe Biden. One of the whitest people that has ever walked. The face of the earth is now telling someone like Kanye West that he is not black telling someone like Tim Scott that he is not black. Telling someone like Alan West. That he's now black. The list goes on and on the left immediately started making excuses for him. Close Your eyes. Imagine what the headlines would look like if a Republican had made a similar statement. Could you imagine right? You would be wall to wall coverage outrageous. He has to resign. This is like David. Duke is running for President Right. That's that's what you want. But because it was Joe Biden a Democrat or the headlines. Cnn WOULD BIDEN. Said was outrageous but some say so was the reaction some say that a who is some is some is some the nickname of John Blake. Cnn writer is that that seems to me very likely or not. Even John Blake the writer but whoever the editor is the wrote that headline this is something that the left always does when they get a bad series of headlines and they want to counter that narrative they say okay. Here's the headline. Yeah that's really bad. But some say it's not that bad and then the some who say are always just the left wing journalist. You're writing running the headlines so that CNN you get from. Vox Do Joe Biden's you ain't black comments ultimately matter no of course not. If Joe were Republican they would matter a whole lot but now do they matter. No now this is the Clinton strategy. The Vox the vox headline is what you would always from the Clintons. Which is that the Clintons would have some scandal and then they would just immediately Tampa down. Say this is old news. We mean it's old news scandal happened yesterday. Now it's old news. That happened yesterday. Today's Today it's not a big deal. Move on the organization move on dot org the Berry prominent. Left-wing organization was founded to to get the Clintons through the impeachment. And they said well look we gotta move on this Old News. No big deal doesn't matter nothing to see here folks. That'S VOX DOT COM. Did and then. My favorite one came from the most ridiculous of all of those newspapers. The Washington Post Democracy dies in darkness this headline on an article by Jonathan Kaye. Part come on Biden's you ain't black comment was clearly a joke. What was the joke? I saw some people in social media to say this that Joe Biden was joking and so therefore it's not an offensive comment. What's the joke? Look I'm I'm perfectly willing to give people grace if they're telling jokes. What is the joke? That black people have to vote for Democrats is that I guess. That's the that's what he's saying. The joke is black. People can't think for themselves. The joke is black. People need to vote the way that this white man tells them to vote. That ha ha. Isn't that the joke? Look Laura Yeah I know I. If that's the joke I get the joke. But that's what is offensive. I so It's not a joke. I mean a joke requires a setup. Punchline and joke requires some humor. That's not what Joe Biden was. Joe Biden's point was was pretty blunt. Which is that if you are black. You must vote for Democrats and if you don't vote for a Democrat you lose your blackness that the and this is the kind of ideological point that they come to. Somehow there is a difference between being racially black and being politically black and the one. That actually matters more is whether you're politically black regardless of your skin color. This is the precise point that was made by a New York Times or not just a New York Times writer a woman who just won the Pulitzer Prize for that sixteen nineteen project that completely anti historical trash that the New York Times is using to try to rewrite American history. This woman's name is Hannah Jones. And she said basically what. I just said she said quote. There is a difference between being politically black and being racially black. I am not defending anyone but we all know this and should stop pretending that we don't so she is defending him and it is a repulsive comment. What she's saying this is what ideologies do this you know. I. I tried. Try NOT TO BE TOO ideological on this show. I've point of view I have a vision of the world but I try not to be ideological and the difference is this what ideologues do. Is they prioritize their ideas over reality so when reality comes to contradict their ideas they they don't deny their ideas they deny the reality. This is something you would hear as a kind of joke about ideologues. They'll say who cares if it works in practice. Does it work in theory right? It's all about prioritizing ideas of reality. When the two conflict they go with their own theories and this is where we see identity. Politics really delve into the realm of the absurd. The idea here. Is that if you are say Tim. Scott right a republican black senator. You're not really black. If you're Clarence Thomas Rhett. You're a conservative black jurist. You're not really black. I mean sure your skin is black but blackness is something deeper than skin color it is according to the left a political ideology and so so Bill Clinton right very much. A white guy is the first black president in certain colloquial understanding. Sarah Palin is not a woman. I once kid you not. I read a gender studies paper. A published academic gender studies paper. That denied that Sarah Palin is a woman because of Radiology Because Radiology is conservative. Or her I guess her philosophies conservative or her lack of Ideology Is Radiology Rick Grenell. He's the acting deny he's a homosexual but he's not really homosexual you see. According to the left he possibly really be a homosexual because he is more conservative. He's not a leftist for the for the left. Black is not a race it is an ideology one woman is not a sex. It's an ideology. Gay is not a sexual preference. It is an ideology so leftist men can attack Phyllis Schlafly they can attack in coulter that's fine. It's actually feminist to physically attack those women because they're not really women and if you attack them you're actually the real feminist and Kanye isn't really black. According to this ridiculous idea you know a lot of people came in and defended. Joe Biden even more is it ineffective strategy is Joe Biden really racist. We'll get to that in a second. I though I've got to thank our friends over at Euro. You know it can be very frustrating when your wife is being slow and taking forever to load and maybe you've noticed that with a lot of people using the Wifi these days that tends to happen well. I've got a solution for you. Eero is Wi fi that your home deserves. If blankets your whole home with fast reliable Wi fi not just inside but outside too euro. 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But you gotta use this URL to receive this offer. Eero Dot Com Slash Code Knowles. So I don't know if you remember Sheila jackson-lee she is a democratic congresswoman. Not One of the most impressive members of the House of representative. But certainly one of the most entertaining at and Sheila jackson-lee is a black woman and she rushed to Joe. Joe Biden's defense. I don't believe anyone who saw that exchange would in any way suggest that anyone is blacker black or less black that exchange was ingest on second thoughts it could been on a spoken different than African Americans are truly one of the most astute political groups in this nation and they know what is best for them their children their families their elders and as relates to the generational divide if you will or the unity of such those who are millennials are clearly and what I would say to you is that that was not what the vice president said in terms of those words. What what I would say to you is that is not what the vice president said using those words what I would say to you is the words that you heard. Joe Biden say those are not the words that he actually said I think they are. I'm pretty sure we have the video and you can replay it. And that's what he said she ends this really rambling incoherent nonargument at the very end with the point that you made at the beginning. Which is don't believe you're lion ears. He didn't really say that she opens up she is. I don't think anybody was talking about how someone is more black or less black or not black. And that's exactly what they were. That's exactly what Joe Biden was talking about. And what he said and we have the tape and he used those exact words but her strategy probably a smart strategy here is just deny it. Then say a bunch of words that don't have any meaning next to one another and then move on right. That's the that's the VOX DOT COM strategy. It's the Clinton strategy. That's what Democrats do all the time. And it's an effective strategy. This whole thing is an effective strategy. You know the the line itself only occurred to Joe Biden because Black Americans vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. So it's a sort of polite joke among the left right if you don't vote for Democrats you're not really black. We're going to rescind your black card identity. Politics has worked very well. It's a very very strong motivator. It has forged this reliable political voting block. It's not as though black people always voted for Democrats not as always voted for Republicans. Before that there was a time at which the black vote was was a little more divvied up. Now it's pretty solidly democratic because identity. Politics is pretty strong. If you're told what Joe Biden is telling them which is that not only will you lose policy or two if you don't vote with me but you will lose your vary identity then. That's a pretty strong motivator to vote a certain way and this comes alongside a long history of Joe Biden's stupid and offensive comments on race. I marched in the civil rights movement. Martin tens of thousands of others. He had not actually during the civil rights movement and kept telling the story and he come out. The civil rights movement is one of those guys that sat in and marks and all that stuff a his age went back to say look he was in office marching for the idea that science out MARCI. They'll put you all back in chains for kids just as brandon just as towns white kids off all of the the Biden Commons visit of. I think the one that hits you the most is hey look black. Kids are poor. Kids are just as talented as white kids. You're you're conflating a few things there. So Joe Biden a racist. What does that even mean anymore? What does the word racist mean after the left has used it as just a synonym for people who disagree with us as just a synonym for bad is just a synonym for not leftist. Does Joe Biden hate black people. No I don't think it's black. People does Joe Biden make offensive comments about black people yes. He regularly makes offensive comments about black people. Do you remember when Obama Ran. I I am. He said. All the the first articulate. Clean GOOD-LOOKING BLACK CANDIDATE. That's a that's a fairy tale man that's almost verbatim when he said you know He. He makes these offensive comments. A lot does Joe Biden. Take the black vote for granted. Yes does that make him a racist? I'll leave you to decide because the word has become very ambiguous. Here's what we do know. The left has spent the last eternity smearing everybody to the right of Hillary Clinton as a big okay and so I'm less interested in the Joe Biden story per se. I'm more interested in how we react to it because the minute that the right does anything even close to the same accuses are opponents of some kind of bigotry with a lot. More evidence by the way we're told that's out of bounds. Only the left is allowed to do that. Not The right. The right has to shut up and take time and time again. The left is allowed to fight with every single available tactic and the right is supposed to tie one hand behind our back at least and trump is rightly sick of this so now donald trump is just coming out swinging. He's encouraging claims. That people are racists rapists and even murderers should the right. Take the gloves off. I think the right absolutely should we gotta be careful not to go too far. There was a big attack that trump leveled over the weekend. I think it's not necessarily in the totally right direction. But it's pretty funny because it's GonNa make Joe Biden Sweat. We'll get to that one second. 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Joe Biden may not remember but we so conservatives are against putting criminals in jail. Now is that the idea. I don't like this Ad. It's in a way a devastating ad right. Even Dan to the very last part where the ad says Joe Biden may not remember. But we do. Joe Biden doesn't remember what he had for breakfast this morning but the point of the we agree with that. Now we see. It's very conservative now to not throw criminals in prison. I don't think that's conservative. I think actually we should put more criminals in prison. I think we have too many criminals on the street. And that's what most conservatives thought until it was politically convenient to attack Joe Biden. Not Not a great way to attack him. I don't think if it works tactically fine. I understand their tactical considerations here. But I think it's GonNa hurt us in the long term. We we gotta be careful not to when we're leveling these attacks and taking the gloves off. Let them come back and swing around and hit us again. We gotta make sure that these attacks are clean and they don't back into a corner. The left is really good at this. The left is really good at not necessarily taking a stand with the left does. Is it just criticises? Rated deconstruct was hear these kind of terms in the left wing academy deconstruction criticism. Critical theory you just attack your opponent without taking a stand yourself. What I don't like about this Ad. Is it backs us into this corner of saying? We basically WANNA spring criminals from the clink. I don't want to spring criminals from the clink. I want to attack Joe Biden but I want to put myself in a where I have to defend something that I I can't defend a a good example of a of a solid wild crazy attack with the gloves off. That doesn't back you into a corner is actually another one. That trump lodged over the weekend. This is one of his wildest attacks ever and it was against Joe Scarborough over at MSNBC president trump tweets out this comment about Joe Scarborough. This was in response to a tweet. That said trump calls for investigation into Joe Scarborough for the murder of a staff or in two thousand one more on that. In a moment trump tweets out quote a blow to her head body found under his desk left. Congress suddenly big topic of discussion in Florida. And he's a nutjob with bad ratings. Keep Digging US forensic geniuses you madman. You are accusing your political opponents of murder. But it's a pretty clean attack actually. I'm not I'm not saying I'm defending the attack per se. But I'm defending the tactic here because Joe Scarborough. Every day goes out on television even to the three people who watch it and accuses trump of all sorts of crazy things and so now trump is swinging back and saying. Oh Yeah. There's a lot of open questions about how you may be murdered that staffer. I'm not saying that there is evidence that he murdered the staffer. Here's the story may two thousand one. This is five months into Joe scrubbers fourth term in Congress. He announces all of a sudden that he's going to resign and he says he wants to spend more time with kids. It's kind of a strange excuse. You hear this a lot from politicians who are in scandals because if he wanted to spend more time with his kids presumably he would've thought about that five months earlier and just not run for a fourth term then a couple months later July twentieth two thousand and one one of Joe Scarborough's aides Lewis Claus was found dead from a head injury in Joe Scarborough's office in Fort Walton Beach Florida. Then this is according to Joe Scarborough at the time allegations spread all over the Internet that he was involved even though it looked as though it was an accident. I do want to be clear. There is no evidence that Joe. Scarborough murdered his staffer. There were rumors at the time that they were having an affair. All sorts of stuff. I mean this is according to Joe Scarborough himself and just grow even joked about this on another MSNBC show hosted by the shock jock. Don Imus occasionally. We're GONNA try to help you and you've just right Charles. You've got to listen. Tell me what I needed to know. You're doing great. I mean don't be afraid to be funny because you are funny That was you know I ask you why you want in Congress. You said You'd have sexually and turn and you had to learn. Sounds pretty risky to say what are you GONNA do? So you can be very good. Were actually like Keith Olbermann. I like Is on Doing great good work out for you to be good lineup. And the guys at NBC had women BC. Looks like they're going to the stick with us. Okay so he jokes about it. Here's my take. Do I think Joe Joe? Scarborough murdered his staffer. I think I think the idea that Joe Scarborough moderate. His staffer is at least as plausible as the idea that Donald Trump has secretly been a sleeper cell. Manchurian candidate for Moscow all along all these last forty fifty years that we've known who he is. Here's my take. I think that the idea the Joe Scarborough is a murderer is at least as plausible as the idea. That Brett Cavanaugh is a rapist. Here's what I think. What's good for the goose is good for the Gander? And if the left is going to reshape our politics two now primarily base itself on insane ridiculous preposterous radical personal accusations against people. Then I guess it sure would be a shame of some of those accusations. Flew back on the left. Wouldn't it here's my take. I mean what what trump is doing here. Even though he's talking about a very serious issue is actually engaging in a little bit of levity in politics right because the left is saying with a straight face he's a Manchurian candidate for Moscow brick Kavanagh's was a rapist and things very seriously and what Donald Trump does. He goes he goes. Oh Yeah. Hey Joe Scarborough's a murderer. I don't know I'm not saying anything. It's just you think he might be a murderer. He's actually sort of telling a kind of political joke and then the joke is getting these self serious leftists to go even more apoplectic. I think that levity is okay in a time where people are way too self serious in politics and where where one side gets to level outrageous accusations but then the minute the other side does anything even remotely resembling that. It's a national disgrace. Okay and I also think that there is nothing virtuous about one side of the political aisle completely unilaterally disarming. I don't think there's any anything virtuous about the left being able to use whole host of tactics and the right having to tied their hands behind their backs and I in particular don't think that's virtuous because the left is not virtuous. The left is vice. It is vice mobilized in politics and the right for all its many flaws is actually attempting a sort of politics at virtue and so. I don't think it's good for the right to be handicapped and for the left to be able to do whatever they want. Nothing good about that. And I'm glad that the right is fighting back but I want the right to fight back. Smart. I don't want the right to fight back in a way. That's going to hurt us in the long run. The you can't expect the left to play. Nice or fair or even stick to its own rules. It's not going to happen. A great example of this of tangentially related to Joe Biden comes from Ilhan Omar Ilhan Omar part of the squad the radical leftist freshman congresswoman. 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I will vote for him and help him. Defeat trump do things at the same time. I do believe read. I do think Joe Biden is a rapist. That's what that means. I think Joe Biden sexually assaulted that woman and I will vote for him. That's the level of partisan commitment. We're talking about. That's that's what Joe Biden talking about when he says if you are even slightly questioning whether you're gonNA vote for me. You're not black. That's how deep this identity goes that. Ilhan Omar would vote for someone she believes to be a rapist because of how deep that identity goes you are not merely going to crack that kind of insane identity politics with slightly better arguments war slightly better. Fine Tuned Policy Prescriptions about entitlement reform. That ain't gonNA work okay. The way that you're gonNA crack it is by using all the tools available to you that includes cultural tools that includes the mass media that includes certain policy arguments that includes shaking things up. Okay the the old strategy of getting that perfectly precise totally pure tie one arm behind your back on politics that that is not going to that has failed and that is going to continue to fail. And it's GonNa make problems worse you've got to get creative guy. Like trump is is a change. Agent is an agent of chaos in politics and so with all that creativity and chaos. We've just got to make sure that we set ourselves up well in the long term. You GotTa Win Short Term Victories. To because if you lose too many short term victories there isn't any to think about speaking of consent. We will get to a wild story out of a local news channel. That brings up a lot of these questions about sex and rape culture and and modern love. But I I've got to thank you and I've got to share some very good news. You remember we had a few weeks ago. We had the double tumbler. Promo you sign up for daily wire. You didn't just get one leftist. Here's Tumbler which is essential. But you got a second do I have. I do have a second. You got a second leftist. Here's Tumbler these days. Becoming more and more important well I got good news. The Double Tumbler is back. But it's only available for our most exclusive membership to your all access. The all access membership here as premier level of membership. You get everything right. You get more of Ben Show you get. Qna's you get exclusive editorial articles yet an ad free website experience to get any better. Yes a can you get to tumblers very important. Daily wire dot com slash. Subscribe there right now. Join all access. Get fifteen percent off with coupon code. Knowles candidate view. Les What is it? Daily wire dot com slash subscribe coupon code. Knowles say fifteen percent and allow me to save you from drowning head on over to Delaware DOT COM. We'll be right back with a lot more so there was a crazy crazy story over the weekend and it tied in with this this kind of consent that were talking about. I mean just think about the terror. Read story thing about how crazy this is. You've got a woman who is was Joe Biden staff who is certainly much more credibly accusing Joe Biden than anybody accused. Read cavenaugh. And you've got some people you'll know saying yeah. I believe her but I don't care. That is a keen level of partisanship. You now have the mainstream media. This is a piece in the associated. Press trying to figure out how do we? How do we finance the Alano Marengo? How do we say yeah? We believe her because we have to believe women because that was the position we backed ourselves into but also we want to keep voting for Joe Biden the way they're going to do that. It's actually pretty. Brilliant is now being shown on the pages of the Associated Press. What they're going to do now is imply that this woman is a victim imply that she's a little bit crazy and then conclude that she's not a victim of Joe Biden but she's still victim so we can feel sorry for her and take her seriously. That's what they're doing. Now is quote Biden accusers. Life marred by abuse and financial hardship. One thing is clear in the complicated. Sometimes contradictory and often chaotic chaotic story of terror. Read her life has not been easy. Wow see what they sandwiched in there. It's complicated and it's chaotic. And then right in the middle sometimes contradictory so they don't believe her. They don't believe her but they want you to know that they take really seriously even though her central claim they don't believe because it's contradictory. They don't Acre but her life's not been easy. She's a victim. Her earliest childhood memory was being abused by her father. She told her former husband a man she would later leave after saying. He abused her to okay so she got this abuse. But now we're seeing pattern right. Starting starting to question this pattern. She was also child a big dreams of being an Olympic skier and studying acting juilliard. Before developing an interest in politics she was hired in one thousand nine hundred for low level staff job for one of the nation's highest profile senators at the time Joe Biden less than a year later. Read said she was again. The victim of abuse assaulted by in the Hallway of a Senate office building an allegation he vehemently denies so is the is it real or is this fake story is not what the story is suggesting. She's crazy but she's had a tough life and then finally at the end inconsistencies in her accounts have also complicated matters. Defense attorneys are now reviewing whether she may have testified falsely better education credentials in multiple domestic violence cases. The Monterey County weekly in the New York Times first reported. Let's be very clear here. There are many fewer inconsistencies in terra. Reads account than there were in Christine? Blasi Ford's account routine Blasi. Ford couldn't help but contradict yourself. She contradicted herself on when the alleged assault by Brett. Kavanagh happened where it happened. Who was at the Party where it happened? She contradicted herself about why she installed door in her home which she said was related to the alleged assault. Though there was no evidence that ever happened. She contradicted herself about her fear of flying. She contradicted yourself about everything. We don't even know if this woman met Brett Cavanaugh and yet you never saw any articles about the inconsistencies in her story. You're hearing now about terror. Read because they don't want to deal with this issue. They've backed themselves into a corner. And this this does tie into it in a way unrelated story but the underlying sexual politics is still there. This story out of a local news channel. A girls being interviewed corona virus. And why she doesn't wear a mask when she's out at the park and then out of the blue some guy walks up and kiss her and the guy finishes kissing her and she's got butterflies. She's she's like really enjoyed this kiss and it's a funny little news story and the news plays at all well and good right wrong. I feel as if mass are not one hundred percent in poor aunt. I feel as if if a spontaneous kiss from someone that she doesn't know my per second with my dog. That's insane right. Yeah he saw having met just minutes earlier. Jillian McCowan says she's the kiss we asked Jack. Ring the man who initiated the kiss. If he's aware of all the risk of kissing a person you don't know during a pandemic you worry about possibly either of you having contract me passing not not right now but what a great story what he great amid all this stupid political news on a great story. Which is I guess these to admit when they were walking their dogs probably flirt a little bit then. She's being interviewed on camera. And this guy thinks it'd be kind of funny flirtatious to walk up and while she's on camera give her a kiss and then this great moment when he pulls away she looks like she is just floating on a cloud. She's she's giggling about it right. A friend of mine tweeted out this video. She said a woman needs a man like a fish needs a and then just that clip right. That's the that's the old line from the feminists and Gloria Steinem. Women don't mean need man and then you fast fast forward to this and this woman's like Gaga over this guy kissing her so sweet story. She walked away. She goes text me. That was that was fun right. Do you know that we now live? In such clinical sterile humorless culture that the news channel that aired that segment a segment. That was so charming. I thought it was fake and staged. They ended up having to apologize. Because according to this news channel with they just aired was basically tantamount to rape a follow up on a story that aired last night on TV news at eleven thirty and historian social distancing. We include an interview with a woman park during the interview. A stranger came up to the woman and kissed her directly on the lips. Our story then focused on the dangers of kissing stranger on the lips during a pandemic it was wrong to air. This video video demonstrated nonconsensual behavior and downplay the fact that what occurred was simply unacceptable and offensive. It does not meet. Cd News editorial standards and we apologize. Oh my gosh this is exactly what we were talking about at the top of the show this is. This is exactly what we're talking about on the racist rapist. All the kind of hysterical claims this ideologues do they have their ideas and then there's reality and when their ideas contradictory reality the ideas have to win. The ideas have to clobber reality. Would anybody look at that video with anybody? Look at that interview and say that guy raped that girl. The Guy who kissed the girl on camera he raped her no least of all the woman. The woman is the text me. Thanks for that kiss it ties in you. Know there's a statistic college campuses that one in five or even one in four. Some say women are raped on college campus. Meaning that Harvard Yard is more dangerous for women than downtown flew right. That obviously isn't true. One of the places that that number comes from is a survey that was sent out. It was conducted by activists feminists to get ascertain what happened in people's sexual lives and concluded that one in five or one in four women on college campuses have been raped even though the women themselves did not think that they were raped. The women who does actually happen to disputed the ideologues interpretation of their situation but the ideologues always have to win likewise considering the other side of this if Joe Biden actually did what he's being accused of. I'm not saying he is. I don't know that I believe this woman but Ilhan Omar says she does believe this woman and with this woman said is that Joe Biden sexually assaulted her even according to that description. Joe Biden can't really be a rapist and therefore Ilhan Omar could endorse him for president because Joe Biden is a Democrat and jet. Look Democrats. Don't do that sort of thing. Left-wingers that's the sort of thing that milk toast. Federal judges like Cavanaugh. Do but not good. Democrats like Joe Biden. Same thing with the racism did Joe Biden a racism. Did he make a racist comment on that show where he said if you don't know if you're GonNa vote for me then you ain't black? I guess you know certainly by the left standards. That would be considered racist. But it can't be racist if Joe Biden does it because he's a Democrat if you're black person and you vote for Donald Trump or you still a black person. Yes of course in reality. That's true but not according to the ideology and for the left when the ideology and the reality come into conflict the ideologies got to win. I mean consider. Consider that famous photograph from World War Two. Vj Day victory over Japan Day when the sale comes back in there in Times Square and he dips that nurse in their kissing. This is one of the classic photographs ever taken so embodies the spirit of the country and for at least sixty years after probably set sixty five years after that photo was taken. It was considered this wonderful moment of relief of love of victory right but then starting about ten years ago people started to reinterpret that image and say that was an image of rape of sexual assault. Seriously that's that's how this is disgust among the left. Would anybody look at the image of the sailor kissing the nurse and say that's rape no of course not but according to the ideology is so they have to deny the physical reality and go with the ideology? You see this not just in the realm of our sex politics. You see this even when it comes to something like run of hours. Times publishes a incredibly demagogic emotionally manipulative. Peace over the weekend but you know. Hey that's the New York Times. This is an editorial. It's it's technically a news story really. It's an editorial though it signed by the New York. Times called an in calculable loss talking about the victims of Corona Virus America's fast approaching a grim milestone in the coronavirus outbreak represents one of nearly one hundred thousand lives lost so far but account only reveal so much memories gathered from obituaries across the country. Help us to reckon with what was lost so just from the very beginning. The headline is not true. Arabia's what the headline is say that the loss is incalculable. And then they immediately give you the calculation they say about one hundred thousand people and they list all of these people in the article so it is calculable. Now I guess the point they would say as well. You can't possibly calculate the value of human life. Yeah of course I I certainly agree with that but then then no calculation involving anything in the social sciences as possibly useful right because I guess the only calculations that you could then really calculate would be purely abstract ones like mathematics. But the minute you bring a human being into it then it's incalculable. According to The New York Times or it's calculable and they're just being demagogues. Sure you can say there's no to quantify a human life. Yeah I agree but we still have statistics right. We still have death. Statistics Crime Statistics Health statistics. So we do calculate them in some way but they're trying to prime you up for this emotional manipulation then they start listing people right so they'll say auditor and Silicon Valley Patricia Dot fifty seven say a little bit about her great grandmother with an easy laugh. Mary Ann Krueger. Eighty five Kirkland Washington. It's really sad. And you just talking about people who who died and you'll see all the various people there then you get to the sixth name on the list just number six Jordan driver Hanes Twenty twenty-seven of Cedar Rapids Iowa so twenty seven not a lot of twenty seven year olds die from corona virus. Do a little quick little. Google search turns out. He didn't die from Corona virus. He was murdered but now in our kind of quirky calculations of this virus where the numbers keep changing. Sometimes they go down. Sometimes they go up sometimes. The criteria get a little bit different sometimes thousands of people who weren't even tested for the virus or just added to the death roll number six on the New York Times emotional manipulation list was just murdered. It's just sad to be murdered. But it's not corona virus. An autopsy has ruled the death Jordan as a homicide. His body was found in a vehicle in a wooded area off of I three eighty on March twelve details regarding the homicide. Aren't being released. The journalist who I don't know who put this together because it's just signed by the New York Times. They just googled covid. Nineteen Corona virus or something like that and then because in this guy's obituary it said that his funeral services were delayed because of covid nineteen. She just added him to the list. How many people is that being done? For how many in one day in New York they had I think thirty seven hundred people to the death count who never tested positive for coronas. Did they die from coronavirus? Maybe I don't know but the people who added their names to the list don't know either but this is the trouble we were told. According to the main model that shut down the entire world the two point four million Americans. We're going to die from corona virus rumor and that that didn't happen good. Thank God him so please. That didn't happen but it wasn't like it was point for them was two million or one and a half million or one million or five hundred thousand now. The numbers have been way reduced. I think now we're at about as the New York. Times says about one hundred thousand deaths so even if it's two hundred thousand doubts even it's twice as much as we see now which seems unlikely that still see. It's an over magnitude less than they initially told us so. They've got to build and build and build. They've got a craft the narrative even when it contradicts the facts and they will do this on any issue from race to rape to murder to pandemics to anything. We have got to fight against. That is an irrational way to conduct your politics fine. The solution to that is not going to be giving the slightly more honed in arguments. Oh if we just improve our argument by two percent then finally will will win back the culture. No WE'RE FIGHTING. Much more difficult adversary. We have got to be creative in that as well. We've got to use all the tools at our disposal. Sometimes that's levity. Sometimes that's history. Sometimes that's a humor. Sometimes that's a personal attacks. Sometimes you gotta do that. That is what is at our disposal. We've just got to make sure that we don't back ourselves into a corner even while we start fighting a lot. Big Lesson of the trump era is to free ourselves up. Use the tactics at our disposal. That's going to be chaotic. That's going to be a little bit crazy. But if the only way that were possibly. 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Shaq talks about LeBron as an ambassador of the game, the coronavirus, his daughter's dunk and the national debate about Red Vines versus Twizzlers

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Shaq talks about LeBron as an ambassador of the game, the coronavirus, his daughter's dunk and the national debate about Red Vines versus Twizzlers

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There must be some ponding showing here. Welcome into the show. What's going on to a musical? Oh Man Okay you want. I know she want. This sounds very somber wants this usually politics oh NFL player. I don't even know your name. You stupid mother. Oh my gosh what are you doing? What are you set us back fifteen years? Look choose your president. Don't care doesn't matter to me. But don't get up there and say he's the first black president. You don't do that stupid. You must have wanted to go viral. What at Ct? Whenever the they call it football players get into your brain. Don't be I don't know your name and I hope the world never knows your name. That was the dumbest I've ever heard in my life. Stop to music. I don't know who is I. Don't either I have no idea what you're talking about shocking. Beato yeah pedo. Who is it that he's talking about? The story tells you know as much as you do somebody was. I guess they were interviewing. Somebody hate call. Donald Trump do the first black president. Trump has some black people in this area and they were taking pictures shucking jabbing around. Yeah and this. Nfl Exit Appel place at Donald Trump. I JUST WANNA say you're the first black person. Yeah exactly Kamal Bro Former NFL safety. Jack Brewer during a roundtable discussion with the president at the White House. Stop it look I've ever get into politics goes again. Who Am I to tell you to choose this guy that guy not in the business in other words? You're not as important as Lebron on his. He says he's too important. Not Tell US opinion. I I will give you my advice on stuff like I see how it works. It works but I'm not GONNA say don't go don't use jargons don't use. Don't use a Johnson Johnson because they had to cancel else's that's not that's love it. I don't do that. I'm not listen. I'm shack high profile. But what makes me better and smarter than you in making choices for your life. Steve Kerr says you should shut up right now. Gregg Popovich says they're smarter than your different. I love it I love it. You're smart because because you don't consider yourself where you have to lecture people on how they vote how they have to live and that's awesome if many other in the NBA and the NFL and everything took your advice because you know yes. Because even though I'm check it's a guy that office right now. We're missing Vicki. That's the way smarter than me and probably only makes fifteen. Thank you very much appreciate you acknowledging that as a guy at the bank that makes water more money than me. It's guy at the tire shop who has much more knowledge about or sports history than I do. So therefore just because I'm a social media celebrity doesn't mean I'm well versed at telling you what to do so again this guy. Look he's your president and look I met Donald Trump. I Know Donald Trump. He was nice to me. But I'm not going to be going back and forth on this and that guy my style good but I'm just saying I think it's one sack man why you Our beloved is. Because you don't feel that you're smarter than the room and have to lecture everybody on or believed that on Social Issues. You have the only write opinion. Anybody who doesn't share your opinions wrong and I think that's why your beloved because you're not one of these a holes who says oh I know better and if you don't vote this way you're an ass and if you don't believe this way on this opinion that shack that's why your beloved people all the time when police issues on a mobile that because John if I grab your hand you flinch resisting right. I didn't know that you know grabbed twin away. You grabbed my hand. You're trying to arrest me. You grabbed my hand and a Yank it away thus does listen right now. That never knew that this was this and so I don't even get into the bag was oh you support the cups yes I do. I support everybody that protect him. Serve Cops Marines Air Force Navy while you're while you're beloved. I think it's wire beloved. Were thank you when people get to know you. Then maybe they talk very l. Let's get this thing in what we were talking about. Little Snide sub commenting there on broad on on liberal. Look Lebron Sim alone. No no no no no no no no no no no no no. No nobody's bulletproof. Nobody GETS TO BE Free of criticism. Nobody gets free criticism. Nobody's free of nobody's free. Criticism grew up with US so John. Moran obviously spectacular be dog how much the NBA wishing he wasn't in Memphis. Because this kid is he's meeting you want you could almost say the same thing about Zaylon. Nba Want Him in New Orleans has nothing. Here's here's Lebron talking Saturday night about Jamarat. He says whatever you need on or off the court. I'm willing to help them okay. Well that's great. That's fantastic that's exactly. What an ambassador to the game does okay. Then Sunday we assign Williamson and James in the game and James Asked about mentorship and he launched into an answer ballots his job to pass onto the game to the guys that are coming in after me but guess what he acknowledged. Lebron went on Saturday night to acknowledge the young players in the game. Who are GonNa who are like the stars like he said John Rant Trae Young? Luca Danni skips I on. He didn't even mention Zaire. All right. Well here. Let's play the here's bell and kiss the ring. I mean well. Here's a listener right before we get in. Here's the cut from. Lebron obligation is my job to pass on the game coming in my responsibility. No one told me that responsibility. I'm able to give my wisdom and passed down while employment around from Plano is my job as the game is giving me. So much of this is is my responsibility community by to say know. Why would he do that? Why he's playing buddy guy again. I love the I love his answer there. I love and I love the fact that he's trying to help the next generation purposely left out Zion. Yes I don't think so. Well he did last night. You're being bought last night last night. Did his words very different. You're being biased. Because you have a problem with talking about Lebron just because when women just because the way you started the show today couldn't have been more delicious to me because you're exactly the opposite. You guys are you. Guys are the two sides of the coin. You don't you don't consider your opinions about issues to be the end all be all and so you stay and exactly the opposite of you shake. It's exactly the opposite that guess. What for some that's appealing. Maybe that's appealing to them. I don't need to be lectured by Lebron James and I would gladly debate any one of these issues that he's so learned on. I gladly debate any of them on anytime he wanted. The music WHATSAPP. Bobby Brown does his parague. And guess what it's my prerogative to call them out on the bull-crap got it so there it is. I mean giving him as an his cabinet ad is trying to figure out what would issue here. What do you mean with the issue? I mean you think he you're saying that you think he purposely left out Zion Williamson in that statement. I think that there was some. I think there's a not Zion not kissing the ring. I don't think he has to kiss the ring. Eva What do you make kisses the ring? I think these are just young dudes who looked up to Lebron. And he's lending his help and his advice if they need it. I think that Lebron James is doing an amazing job of trying to help the young players. I do believe that you know who said the same thing. Lebron said the other night Carmelo Anthony. He's a veteran. He's a future hall of fame. He also said that is what I hope. They're not listening to Camello. I'm just being honest. Why not because Carmelo's I'm not okay? Everybody's talking game. That's a John Crazy so care around. I love it though. 'cause you made my point for me at the beginning of the show. Stop the music album here you go on. I will say I hear you. I'm GonNa get it K- you sick bastards. Oh wait a minute. We're talking about okay. I'm on social media and they have clips of people sneezing and rubbing them on the elevator keys. Why have clips people sneezing in a certain country rubbing it on the damn? Wait a minute. What country. I'M NOT GONNA say it. They have to have clips. I'm going to find the clip. So you guys talking about. They have clips of people sneezing and put them on the keyboards at banks. People sneezing pulling down the MAS- sneezing in the air and running. These are so sick people. I'm I'm going to find the clip right now. I've never seen anything like this. Coroner of is. I'm not really fully script on who the coroner or whatever whatever wait a minute. It's the corona virus or coronor virus core. Noroviruses is very deadly. We haven't even gotten to the point where sharks ahead of the curve. This is the next evolution. They've told shack though. That's what's coming. Okay flu how bus for your shack. Do you know how many people have died in America since the beginning of flu season this year? Now this is late October. Two today over forty thousand people confirmed forty thousand people. Do you remember any paranoia. Turn it on the news at night and going another four hundred people died today of the flu in America. No no you didn't and guess what when we past ten thousand deaths fifteen thousand deaths by the way we've lost over eighty thousand Americans. Last three flu seasons. This year is a real bed one. We never saw this. Because you know why because everything's gotta be gotta be politics. It's gotTa be somehow. This becomes a political issue. This is something where people are making people paranoid and guess what be diligent be smart but most eighty some percent of people get corona virus. They heal without anything but just letting it ride out. They don't get any medication. Heal without that Minnesota something like the Florida. Yes it's very same way. But they're worried about this one because they just have never studied this particular strain before and I just being diligent folks but if you weren't worried about the forty or fifty thousand people who have been dying the flu every year in America. Why are you freaking out over this? Because you're being told because it's on the news down because people are saying some talk slowly and people are trying to make it into a political issue which is disgusting disgusting. I got a text now from Shaquille. What now what? What is this clip from the New York Post a New York Sick Wuhan Man purposely coughs on hospital staff China's Corona virus? Okay well then. He needs his. He's at he's at the what looks like the check in desk or something. They're crazy okay. Any decides he's going to pull his mass down in cough on the people behind the desk very class. Would he do that? I mean seriously what kind of what kind of monster does that have to people in the world do with it. There's one shot hit New York Post Shock. Have you seen those video? Have you seen those videos? Now that are going viral of like you're in the supermarket and someone comes up behind you and lecturer go. Yeah Okay Racism. There's no I'm just GONNA turn around GonNa Punch you. I'm GonNa Punch you out of instinct because I sometimes I've had people jump out at me and I punched because stop but my instinct is free. Doubt the someone's coming up behind me like that whether it's an elbow to your to your face whether it's a punch whatever it is I'm punching. I'm not turning around and looking at you and going. What are you doing usually when we scare you on? Halloween you end up on the floor. Yes I'll go. Oh My Gosh. This is not going to happen. I'm those things Jack. If anyone ever tried that with you what would happen? We're going to be on. Espn Shakban Shack Shack. Lazy Guy Still based on. Espn Worldstar Hall Star. Hypocrisy and I won't get charged because that's the soap. Okay what is it is right. That is I mean that is the that is the one the one. I see every whereas the people putting like buckets on people's I see that one everywhere. I don't understand how someone walks up to someone who's not paying attention in Isle of a store and there's like three people on the island. They'll have buckets. And they put a bucket over someone's head and then they all put buckets on their own heads and all take them out of this kind of funny though just to see the expressions on Serb. Crt for the braves was doing it. Okay that's really part Florida okay. That's little weird. That's a little weird Speaking of random funny things did. We had briefly. Mentioned your fall. The other night fell again. This is crazy what happened. I was watching the Bruce Smith thing. You remember that when I was watching it and I just are leaning and then I was backing up in. Nfl DOT COM for laughing at people. You're backing up into it. Very town us. No I was never that. I'm a giver not to take always been a giver shack. He always been a giver. Everybody always noticed that about the other one. That was all over the place. This week that we had to bring up a couple more things but Myanmar's dunk. You're almost down on a on a ten foot rim. What's going on their motions. Close really close and super competitive. You know what I love though the the part of that story that I love the best is the brotherly love brotherly love when they were young. They used to argue and fight Something called suck punishment was that made them hold has put a sokolac-han tied around the risks. American hold onto. I love that I love that. I love that just because I love. The fact is a brother can support sister. See that's beautiful. This is how we will settle all arguments on bucking kincaid. Moving the now. There's going to be a sock. Get socked stock handed. I don't mind that that's a really neat idea has she. Has She thought about what she's GonNa do where she's GonNa go or anyone stop. I don't worry about that right or not. What she's a she's a An eighth grader. Right she'll be a freshman. I mean seriously. Hey are you like. They haven't reached out to eighth grade. Kids before I mean honestly I honestly think it's it's back off of back-off children a little bit like honestly like can we? Can we let kids be? Can we let kids at all be kids anymore or we now have to go to eighth? We have college football. Coaches offerings a scholarships to seventh graders and sixth graders at some point. Can we let our children be children or is that off limits anymore? Is that an odd opinion like I think is that like is that the strange opinion. Now that that it is that we want our kids to grow up really really fast. Now let's not do that having a any idea. I don't know maybe I should say it's not time to think. Well let me when she gets into high school when she gets into high school and she starts playing like this though. People are going to start knocking on your door. And maybe you can kind of see won't have to go to. They'll come to her so they're gonNA come to her. So let let God let her bake just thinking. Oh my God these people You started a national debate this week. Shaquille O. A Red Red vines versus twizzlers. So Lebron is eating red vines on the sidelines. Note who's not who's eaten twenty twizzlers. He's he's eating red vine. Somebody had a bag of a red vonts first of all black people. Don't know a red monster. I don't care what you're talking about. I've never I'm forty seven is this. I've heard of them. I've never seen it seemed never heard of red vines. Her twizzlers twizzlers to the worst ever made with the black ones. Don't ever make those black like licorice matter. I don't think this is fair. You do that. Black twizzlers disgusting and Black Jelly beans yet. Ain't get rid of that to really. Yeah they. They're terrible really George. Okay John Over. The game of pool was racist. Now I did not know. How is it racist because why do I won't listen controls all the other boss and if you hit the blackball in early you lose well and you? You Ain't got a big time by the White Mellow Karachi's in colored rob come on now blackball in early. Lose 'em over guess what it's don't don't don't try to take my childhood awful and turn them into something that's dirty as this. National debate raged around red vines versus twizzlers which I couldn't believe there were so many people online that love and defend red vines. Because I didn't know that that was like a really popular. What is liquorice? What is it shock? What do you what is liquorice? Just black is it. Wax Is it is it. It shows like what harmless looking at its sugar. It's but I mean I. Yeah I don't know what it is I with you when it comes to rave is a twist. I don't eat neither one of them so it really don't matter. I'm not a big fan of wisdom. Allie was so. Here's some of the debate that raged this week surrounding this. Do you twirl your spaghetti or cut it twirler. Twirl twirled worlds. What did you just say? Check never eaten spaghetti with white people. Guess what the restaurants ones rednecks. Why White People KOSH SHACK? I will take you in South Philadelphia. Someone will cry and when they hear this. They're going wait a minute now. Shaggy use a spoon to to tore your spaghetti. No is it because a lot of the a lot of Italians will will use a spoon along with therefore poodle. They'll do that. I'm not using more than one that. Guess what it's fine. Just don't do do not under any way shape or your scotch tape. Showed that redneck man with the scissors. All over the place this week for Scopus Spaghetti was so charming and I'm like why are we? Why are we celebrating? Just this why. Are we just celebrating? Nonsense this is what we did. It's unbelie chocolate. Chip cookies are Oreos show. I love the national debates and I got a cookie. All Orioles led the Norio over the best. Guess what I liked the all of your book. I like the Yellow. What do they call them? The Yellow Warriors. They're not lemon now. They don't have a lemon filling they have the regular filling but they're the they're yellow ones honky or it's Bonilla. What are they go? There are my absolute favorite. If I see those they'd be my favorite. Okay absolutely. Do you fold your pizza. Nope CISCO YOU don't you only fold you. Only neopolitan type pizza regular slice of pizza still. Let's until on science two of them went about a couple of weeks ago quote. We've never had any here in the studio probably won't go do some John All right. Well that's what we would love. Would you please bring some coming on the show gear? Do you put ketchup on a hotdog. Yeah right must earhart. Please hold that wanted to fight you like soccer and no Benazir Glass Sauerkraut. Yes thank you must be a black thing. Sauerkraut Blake Sauerkraut on Ohio. Yeah Brandon copy. I like your old man. Yes we do know people straight up. They wanted to fight me about putting ketchup on a hotdog. People were like no mustard. Goes ON A hot dog? I gotTa tell you that I don't how much is how. What do you mean how much? How much is it to depart cheap? It's cabbage that has been. Isn't it just pickled cabbage pickled period and I can tell you this? Your House will stink. If anyone see my mom would cook it and I I swear I could smell today and a half later Sauerkraut God. I hate him reasoning state to the same thing. Well no it's not something but Collard Greens do the other one. The jumped out was coker. Pepsi Coke. I grew up on pepper in the South I grew up of. I grew up in the northeast. I go to a classic Coke Chick-fil-a Delta Waffle House I love Delta. I love Delta Shack Coke or Pepsi yes see I'm with you I. I think it's a New Jersey thing Pepsi products. Come on no Kremlin and stuff but it's all right. We'LL WE'RE GONNA move on here too tax from the show in a second. But we would be remiss if we did not mention the largest person on the show turns forty eight years old on. Friday really good law. Happy Birthday Shaquille. O'neal yeah man. That's awesome what you're doing. None who you doing well Robin Brandon. I do have a show on Saturday. I should come check where Somewhere and wait a minute. I didn't hear that right. Y- Brandon and a rope to combat show. Why should I 'cause it's GonNa be a bunch of kids and you don't like that head beggar music wait a minute? Why would you say that because you could come on now? What are you talking about? You know it came in a three piece talking about details unbelievable pretty WANNA go alone looking right now to look outside of the funhouse. Been One of your shows but believe musical believe musical and put a google. What time I'll go on an eleven thirty one? Anyone Ralph David Abernathy Ball. Kano's Stomach Yup. Oh Yes town then okay. John John John. Thanks you for the invite. It's the type of music town. John is officially out. I am. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA answer text to the show phone here in just a second. Hey everybody have you been listening to us about manscaping? I know you've been finding out about them. Let's take your ball seriously for once. Would you? How things looking down there fellas? If you think manscaping is an important. You're probably only Rosie Palmer five sisters. Let's be honest. And guess what they're getting tired of you two. They're probably cheating on you. Hygiene and cleanliness matters guys and you need those engineers tools for your family. Jewels from our great friends at Manscaping. Yup manscaping forever changing the grooming game with the perfect package three point. 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Check your bowls will thank you all right and we're GONNA use of texts from the show. Love this idea. If you didn't know yes prank call in call. Yes I want you to. I want you to say that you guys probably plane. And his service sucks. Okay mccollum. Oh you call them up. I'm ready. Oh robs going to call them up. Here's take the view details. Who's known as a pilot going to say what's his name is. Paula How yes. Okay wait a minute. When did I fly? She were working. You flew with a friend and just say netjets better. Your service sucks. I can tell everybody know number two flow issue again private. But there's nobody serving you drinks or anything. 'cause I'm trying to think of other things I could say. Well it is so ugly ugly. I speak to Al Pallet. Police can help you take a message. Which is what is your name. Mike. I'm Mike. How are you here Dick PRESIDENT OUT OF ATLANTA. And we used your service on Super Bowl weekend and I really need to get in touch with al. I just got A. I got a report today. From my investors. We had a private jet from L. A. Miami and we were referred by Jewish Phil. And I gotTa tell you we`re. I'm very very disappointed here in the reports today and they said they had a terrible time service was they said in the girl you put on their flight was damn ugly and and I mean and I'm supposed to be entertaining my investors high profile guys. I'm bringing them in for the Super Bowl and you're getting jo Jo. The dog faced girl to to to to service their flight. Jewish Vilson me still. Yeah you know. The guy went to jail for stealing money. Al Knows L. KNOWS WHO Jewish villas and when Al gets out of his meeting. That'll be me and I want to do more business with you guys. But I'm very disappointed. Disappointed did you book directly with Allah one of the other brokers that took care because this is one he really he. He assured me that this was going to be like special. And I don't know what the guys were expecting. But they weren't expecting that Utah. Gay callback you got it. Thank you buddy. Thanks for your time by the way how come. She's gotTa Be Monique. Though that was that was pretty good face. I took the dog faced girl. This one guy can't even can't even get with his wife anymore. Holy pictures off on their face. That was not in the tax. I hope he calls Jewish philly was like I. I gave him the hotline number here. So we're going to see. If he calls we may enter up the show back. That'd be Lancer text to the mint mobile show phone by the way. If you want to mid mobile dot com slash shack. They will cut your phone bill to fifteen dollars a month. You get to keep your number. You get to keep all your date all that stuff. That's a great deal. Fifteen dollars a month from our friends at MIT mobile. Just GO MOBILE DOT COM slash. That is really really good. Man The number of the show phone by the way if you do want to text it. Four seven zero four four three fifty nine seventy three is our show phone. K- from the six go ahead check. Oh I have no idea would require work and I'm doing enough of that so I'm good. A- just said our friends at MIT MOBILE. You mailed it in the mail trying to do something great. Blame it on man you mailed it and I did. Just take responsibility my fault. Of course. God's sakes all right so from the six one six. How does shack come up with all the set lists for his DJ sets? And how do you even have time to work on them a thousand songs on my USB drives? Because I'm good at reading the crowd so if there's more be dogs in their struggle hip hop junkies classics racially profiling your crowds right. And if there's more kids in there I just WanNa Bang Up. I got hit him with the Bengal music. So I never really have a set thing. Wouldn't WanNa play you know good thing about Dj. Nows all the music you have. The temples are there instead. So you're just master temple also but I never go and say armour-plated set 'cause I did that one time and I bombed really it was a it was an Amazon part and it was like play on those guys like that and I came implant Cardi B. and guys now. Yeah getting up and leaving. I didn't have no the music honky. Mcconnachie yeah I can imagine fun from the 520 was criss angel. Levitating over your house real. Yes he put. Someone knows and I could see here. What happened license? Joan get knocked out smelling saw something but he puts me rape drug wasn't any white such a new. I couldn't move. I couldn't move your staggering. All right wow. I think he did. Okay did you. Did you feel violated afterwards? Of course make sure okay because we have a lawsuit here we can really cash. I'm confused as to how this relates to him. Levitating over your house move your tricks. He knocked me. Oh okay so he. He roofing incapacitated you somehow. So you couldn't see the track. There's something wrong with this thing is something wrong with that. But we don't know what figure it out sort of like opposing centers to the last couple of years. They use the same stuff. Some of those games George from the six one nine that would be Sandiego. Wants to know. I Love San Diego if you had to be a head coach of an NBA team. What team would you want to coach between those players? Like Steve Kerr Gold say worse. So you'd want to coach the warriors. Of course coach. Good team is what he cooks. Are The warriors a good team they will be listened? Wants to come back. I was going to be all over. Oh Man Okay and guess what? And by the way they're going to get like a top pick in the draft to yeah to join that crew. Which is the rich getting richer. Really this one is for beat dog. Actually Oh and of course. We'll get his name. The guy gets Shaquille Jabari it's from the two four eight Taylor Taylor rooks or carry champion away on on this too. I'm going to go. I'm GonNa go Taylor rooks you're crazy. Carey campaign is has always been my women crush Wednesday. Okay Love Keri champion a debt. But I'm gonNA tell you There were I. I think Taylor rooks look slightly better. Slam IS CLOSEST TO CARRY CELL. Phone styles hotline. Okay but carries amazing. Don't tell you what you know about the car career Taylor. We'll we'll both but you both all right okay. All right I love this her next Her next GIG has that been made. No Okay I want to hear what it is all right. Oh he's really cold really. Oh No no you gotta answer. Just tell them Jewish L. coach. I'm not sorry. Oh no only because beat. Oh Two Shaq. She said you could not often. Do you get dissed too the burner you've been you've been you've been sent to the burner fund has been set to voice conversation while Jordan. Peele has done it again. What do you mean? Candy may know? Forget the candyman by the way. Tell me about that. It's called hunters is about a group of people store now. But you know the Nazis all in one night awesome. You Watch the whole thing also Zanjan. Abbas honor is also go back to Chino hills brew. Okay tell me about the candidate. Say FORGET TO CANDYMAN. Forget again now. Want to know about the candyman. I should have been the candidate. Also you saw. Oh Yeah I'm SORTA okay we need. We're GONNA star Candyman on with us to pick the candidates that creepy guy out of Houston a guy. You say. Candyman say his name in the Mirror. That's three times a little little. We need a. We need a big black. Jason look a Mug up stabbing copying serial killer names first of all the candy. Man was the serial killer out of. Houston thinking about Freddy Kruger. No there was a series taker and there was no they came out of Houston Dean. Arnold Corlett you're thinking about the really thinking about real life. He was in American Cyril V. We're not talking about some monster. This guy was a monster. Two zero killer misdirection. Just don't say candy man in the Mirror. Our is it three. Oh It's five three. You guys got gotta be five. Everybody else was three complicated. That you guys are math. Challenge all right last one Texts to the show from the five six one. Do you think Tom Brady is leaving? The Patriots after that video surfaced of him this week at a basketball game saying he wasn't GonNa stay. I don't know I just know that in this game the organizations could be very unloyal. Saddest Day in my life. Believing was Michael. Jordan led the Bulls Saturday. When I left the Lakers or one out of Miami. Because I already knew of Jordan could be dealt with anybody could be dealt with so I knew my day was coming but when Jordan went to the left and then when Patrick Ewing left the knicks. I'm like man mine was Dominique. Dominating Glamour Nubia on. There's no loyalty in this game. So I don't know what they're GONNA do. But if I was the Volvos Mr Crap I I I'd give tyrod whatever. He wants out of respect him. He's got to six rings. Expect John K. The thing is utter respect. You can't just re-signed him you got it. You got to get more weapons on our side. Okay listen reside him. Get another young quarterback under him with similar skills. And then just you know supplement some amend some money and then finally when when. Tom Is not as turning more then. We'll just push 'em Tom Comey. Because you just can't forget about what the guys do because listen. If you get rid of time you started from the bottom. Tom Is by the way I have it on. I would say fairly good authority. That the this stuff about him. Going to vegas all all just chatter real. It's all that it's all just chatting so we'll see it. That's Tom to the Titans. So the titans titans will be the place where he could potentially puts them over the tight. Good good all right Text to the show phone. If you've got to send US text four seven four four three fifty nine seven. They're tired of each other. Who Bill probably I think so and I don't blame either one of them and I don't think it means that they hate each other anything I think they're just probably they probably you're just not now is about. Who GETS THE CREDIT CORRECT? I'll about that. Unfortunately how much show? No no exactly right. You do what you gotta do to keep them around but bill smart. He knows that it's nothing against Tom but piece have to start on. Thinks he's GonNa play forever and Tom Remember. He wanted Garoppolo to be as quarterback. The bill was ready to move on from Tom. Two years. I think you keep Tom Brady one until he's dead and six. Yes until he's off the field. Tom Brady on that field. Man brought you six rings six not like a championship or two six. I sat around all right. Well look I got nothing no love for Tom Brady. But either way. Let's go on this by the way to do. Is the final week of borderline. What before the playoff start march madness next week march and I can't wait to roll helped my borderline bitches theme song for this year's borderline bracket so view this next week for the start of the borderline bracket But I do have some good ones. We'll see if any of these last few can sneak into the playoffs. We're GONNA start with mode. Are G mail and Ataman our facebook. It's from the steam room which is Ernie and Charles. Barkley's PODCAST chuck is talking about Joe. Borrow who apparently had small hands does its lands. He did okay. So this is what Chuck's advice was. Joe Borough listen. I just want to say this Joe Borough listen. I made it my life with nine inches joe last. Uh Charles that all right around this one's here's is just funny. It's an easy targets Bernard are g mail. It's Stephen. A Smith who the question I take was what player under twenty one? Are you starting a team with? He's very big on Jason Tatum. We all know look at Donges play. We know what he's been doing since he was a kid. Ladies and Gentlemen Jason. Tatum is twenty one years old. My God is he coming. Oh my well wait a minute. Though he is in serious that he seriously he he he doesn't really believe that believe were. The tatum will be the guy. You'd build the teamer and Tatum is a baller okay. I like Jason Tatum a lot. But would he be? Where's he on your list of young players you'd build around. Would you build around him? Aja Jamaran Jamaran. Okay trae young or trey younger. Jason Tatum Jason Tatum. Over trae you will. I love trae. Well WELL LOOK. I Love Jason. Tatum was better than both of them. Wow what speaking of trae. We didn't talk about him in Aretha yeah you see that. He nutmegged them Saturday night. That felt very ninety. Nba Love the fact though that a recent gives them a face and trae took it like a man and a reason delivered a man and they didn't have any they didn't have any problems and afterwards they're they're dappled down. They're fine like to me. That's the way the game supposed to be played. Get a little physical and if trae wants to do something and someone else wants to send a response good for them. Good for them like both of the way. They handled that problem. That was awesome but nutmeg in a Guy. Can you imagine nutmeg check? You would elbowed him in the face with. You would've let there would have been an elbow to the face. Maroon felt like by the way and then we got a couple more here. This one came to our g mail. It's from a just a terrible. Msnbc show called morning. Joe and morning. Joe Joe Scarborough complaining about politics and he has just a greatness here. Just it's like he'd been doing nothing but studying twitter for like three months and they were playing to the titter. Twitter crowd now. The problem for Joe is that's a whole other aspects. Fiance is right next to him on the set so as he works with his fiancee. Okay by the woman the woman he's coming to marry Mika his co host he was thinking and Mika many mornings maybe that was why was distracted. Oh okay just our last one this one comes to us from Allen Energy melts from wgn news. They're playing a sound bite of an officer who founded gun wedged inside a woman's but wait a minute. How serious gone into her rear end. Breeze a five shot revolver was loaded wisden the crack of her buttocks caboose pistol. Everybody it's not worth people. Don't get the tried. It think boots machine-gun last from wgn in Chicago. Yes Oh my God. More time. It was a five shot. Revolver was loaded wisden the crack of her buttocks caboose pistol. Everybody know work that book. Don't get the credit. Think boots machine-gun kid that's awesome by the way. Wgn News for those. Who Don't know him watch this one. It's the superstation Chicago. Those are watch their news. It's a very loose news clearly. It's a very fun to call a double entendre. Ya Kidding that might be a triple. Gosh aw does this. Week's additional of borderline bureau. Of course. You're what a tease for black entertainment. And I won't say that would be black. Entertainment Television said Ben. Okay so why so? Why only John robbed on this but think about to be racist? Why are we only knew? And why are you talking about bet online? Oh I thought it was be tim. Sorry because later John John Robb for bt look dogs get down get down with your favorite Sitcom dog one. Oh six at park is going to be looking good John. Hey also getting real and just saying. Hey that's the best robin advertising alert. Well the bigger black to show us the way descript here stop listening to the black community. People have now bought be. Oh we're going to change the way you think about the Black Community. In today s we can be dog shack and be dog. We'll learn more about different kinds of music. We've changed some of the programming and March arrived right. 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We have not played a round of this game in quite some time. I want you facetime. Decided ready to check it out with you if you're new. The shack cast game called Walmart or Waffle House. I'm going to read you a completely insane. Ridiculous thing that happened and we're GONNA make eye contact the entire time and it is up to you guys to determine if it happened at Walmart or if it happened at a waffle house the two places in the south that are prone for the weirdest crap on the face was having trouble facetime. Oh yes because. You're busy googling. The question got a show sheet in front of you. You be cheating. They give me the face time even know where he is. He sounds like he's ever google in right now. He's at his Google machine as Mike Francesa with. Hey check the google machine in Google. Put that in the Google and see that. Look look all right. Well busy he's busy. Everyone's farting around. I guess I'll start because I'm not going to sit here and wait for everybody. I'm a runner. He's already was okay. I will know he paula. Jones can keep talking sexy shift job. You were Let's see okay. Are we going? I see you you can see there. We go all right here. We go ready all right story number one customers at this location and Arkansas. Were more than grossed out. When they discovered two employees had turned their section into a makeshift hair salon ignoring customers while soaking their weaves and buckets of hot water and doing each other's makeup did the makeshift layers. Salon owner a waffle house. It happen at waffle house or a walnut happened at Walmart. Johnson Walmart Shack say waffle house that Nastiness took place a waffle house. Oh My Gosh. They were food. Mattel you are no buckets of water. Yeah getting a book at Walmart and the bathroom. A bucket of water story number two. A woman at this location was asked to leave after escalating. An argument with her ten year old daughter who was playing with a magic eight ball at the time her mother decided to freak out because it was quote sorcery and a tool of the devil and smash it on the floor before they were asked to leave. Did that happen in a walmart or a waffle happened a Walmart Walmart. Because where would you get a magic eight ball at the brought one in with you? And it's a tool of the devil. That is what the Not The the eight balls. Not The tool of the devil. It's the OUIJA board. Do not bring a wage board into your house or works. It's got one somewhere. Get it out of your house now. It's a box somewhere to get it out of your house. All nine brothers devil bureaucracy. Alcohol we'll have like a sound all right story number three a mother and her eight-year-old child were asked to leave dislocation after an employee was repeatedly called pardon. My language of by V eight year old shelled. The mom went nuts when they were asked to leave but let the left before police were called did the eight year old with the foul Mouth Cossack. An employee of a Walmart or a waffle house saying waffle house. Wells Noah and Walmart one blogger. I'm both getting a point very late. Shacks logic one all right here we go stores in the studio with you does on Jerome. So it was up. Wait a minute. There are animals mounting each other. In this picture yes. The Lion Zebra might aware. That's okay so shack office there's a I thought it was shocked Prom night. Hells at call Derby. Thank you Mary. Dermot Lion Mauling showroom looks like he could ball today looks good looks real good cardio every morning our there we go tell you what all right. Let's go to. Where were we hear? Story Number Four. What do you have up in your face their shack? He's got the sheep shoot okay. Things seem to be going well John. This wonder what you're doing on facetime story for things seem to be going well at this location until the customer remarked. They were quote feeling sick. They then threw up on an employee who threw up on another customer. Who Thrill up on another customer. Paramedics were called as a precaution. Did the PUKE on you puka. Puka another person happened at a Walmart or a waffle waffle house waffle house. The way people barf aroma gave really was. It was a Bar Rama and it happened at a waffle hasn't vomited because somebody else vomited. I'd never have made me close to clean up. Go Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah yeah all right. Story number five another seemingly. Normal night was interrupted as an employee's phone continue to ring over and over and over until in front of customers. She finally answered it cursing out loudly. Who was ever on the other end of the phone and hanging up in returning to work did the woman who answered her phone curse. The caller happened in a Walmart or Wal Mart Walmart Going Walmart. Dogs that happened at a waffle house waffle house. Waitress gossip never missed it both at the same time. I can see him this time. Okay here we go story number six. A blind woman at this location was using her disability to her advantage as she rolled out the door without paying when customers followed her to her outside to stop her. They witnessed her climate newer car and drive away Walmart Line. Woman Air quotes roll out of a Walmart or a waffle. Nobody's nobody's risking going to jail over waffle house. All right well She both Russia rolled out of a walmart kitchen and she wasn't online. I think the thing so. We'll wait a minute. The why do they Braille on drive-up? Atm's Oh you never know you might WANNA wheel up and get some money in the way wwl away rhyming up in a car and you're blind they have bought next time you go to the McHugh go. There's there's Braille on that machine. Why would they have that has to know where to where to lean? We already see. Here's why do they have locks on twenty four hour convenience stores now? We're just GONNA go in this startled. Sissoko all right here. We go do that. Why do they well? We already do? I do now so now. This is my day when I went to white people do all right story number seven We always seem to have these stories from the restrooms. Always like something. Don't restroom either. Place in this night was no different. Customers reported a loud moaning coming for the bathrooms was doing only to discover a very drunk couple having sex on the floor. They were asked the house. I hate that you're both right but it happened to Waffle House. And she was scattered smothered and covered. I don't know what she was covered. But Yeah Oh you're is six five shots terrible on the floor of a waffle. WanNa walk into sneakers? I don't WANNA walk floor by the way. They just had sweeps in February. The news sweeps. Yeah and you know the worst. The worst bacteria that you find is the square underneath a urinal can't dirtiest place and what happens. Is we step in it as men and then we take our shoes off and they were saying watch. The bottom of your shoes is covered with just terrible. Bacteria LIKE BATHROOM. P and gun. So they're saying because you stand in it if you use the urinal you're standing in other people's like drizzle and everything to be careful thank you thank you for dressing. White shoes dudes. I have this came up. All Right Harry number eight we like uplifting stores in this Florida location has employees. That always wait for quote the Bumblebee to arrive. She's a seventy year old plus woman who only comes in at one thirty in the morning and his that always dressed head to toe in a full bumble bee outfit when asked why she wears it. She's given every employee a completely different answer. Do employees wait for the Bumblebee? Roll up to a waffle house or a Walmart Walmart. Oh sexton Walmart John. Waffle house clue. The bumblebee rolls up to a Walmart. Missed why we don't wear the same thing to eat every day. What do you mean? We don't cause deadly assistant. You think it's a system of woman that dresses like a Bumblebee. GotTa be okay. So she's like a carpenter. Be This is like I guess they'd be a carpenter. Be there to bump. Bumblebee wouldn't be assistant all right right. Let's go here. We go story nine. Normally you don't have to pay a cover charge to get into this location except for this one where one night very drunk man claiming to be a bouncer charging people five dollars to get it. We'll talk until the police were called to remove him and they escorted hollow murderer waffle house. Shacks is Walmart Johnson. Swath wow so. Let's get John Back in. This game happened in house. Oh here we go. We're going down to the wire here. Ice Dancer I seven. Six hoosier leading. Shaquille O'Neal finally a pissed off. Customer return to dislocation. You're being asked to Walmart all right. Read the whole question. A pissed off customer returns dislocation. After being asked to leave and this time he returned with a shotgun unfortunately a little old lady stopped him at the door scolded him like a small child and took the gun away from before say waffle house. I have to say I have to say it. Shag got it on a blind guests. Though it was the greeter at Walmart always ladies ladies at the door. We have graders. We agreed on the DUNWOODY. One Johnson Charles could be me Walmart waffle house. John Hume Kim me. And you lose regain and why animals right all right man and saw that is a wrap. I am excited to find sponsorship next week on the show play. Aw here we go. We get disconnected us. Even though we'll we'll later it's a big podcast with shack gmail.com. Send US your submissions and love people text in the show. Also give you the text show. Four seven four four. Three fifty nine seventy absolutely awesome. 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Morning Joe 3/13/20

MSNBC Morning Joe

55:05 min | 11 months ago

Morning Joe 3/13/20

"Anybody right now and yesterday anybody. That Megyn task is to test. We there there. They have to test anybody who wants a test can get a test. Is that consistent with what you know? It's not consistent right now. That's obviously the goal is to be able to get testing for everybody who wants to be able to get it and to be able to get it in multiple locations but that's not accurate right now. Stop seeing young. People should not say if you wanted to touch right now. A Republican senator would like the president to stop lying about a national crisis the top expert on diseases. Meanwhile is calling the government's response by its proper name. The system does not is not really geared to what we need right now. What you are asking for that is failing and adapting. It is a failing. Let's admit it the idea of anybody getting it easily. The way people in other countries are doing it. We're not set up for that. Do I think we should be yes? But we're not Dr Anthony. How she will be our guest this morning on morning. Joe Good Morning and welcome to morning Joe. It is Friday March thirteenth. And what a week. It's been Joe. The past twenty four hours has put the United States of America in a very different place very different places. Been a lot of cancellations. A lot of sports cancellations and and yeah it's very disconcerting. Local state of lot of Americans The local states of emergency. That's in place. I didn't want to touch on a few things. I was a terrible day on Wall Street but am starting to see recognition areas that there hasn't been recognition in the past. And that's a really good thing. Willie we we. We saw senator say no. You can't get tests right now if you need them. That's important that that the truth start being told like that. Dr Falcone said the same thing yesterday said it was a failing last night. Sean Hannity asked as our secretary as our win kin every American. Get a test if they WANNA test secretary as our refused to answer. The question is being asked Martha McCallum earlier in the evening on Fox News. It asks the question. What about ventilators? We have a shortage of ventilators. How are we going to fix that in the person that was her guest? Just spouted off trump talking points saying well. This is why Donald Trump's doing such a great. You know that was the talk from last week. It seems that there is an understanding. There is a series and this this pandemic is serious. At senior citizens are endangered that millions of lives are endangered. And if we get ahead of it if we do better than we've done over the past month we don't have to look like Italy. I saw that yesterday Willie actually in a very depressing day on many fronts. But I saw that as a silver lining without question without Question Society States Local Government. Schools are taking this seriously as possible and it serious as is necessary right now. We've talked about this for a week. Now that we have to sadly look past the President United States who in many ways has his own interest in mind. We saw that when he misstated three different things during his prime time address. He didn't talk about testing. We have new reporting that I know because going to get into a second that he wanted to slow down the testing a little bit or not introduce new testing because he worried that those big new numbers of cases might hurt his chances at reelection. The country is doing the right thing in spite of its president right now I gotta say that's another thing Sean Hannity. Of course you said a lot of things last night most things that he said. Last night I disagreed on he. He was bashing the media pretty much nonstop but but obviously it's a free country but he also talked about how this pandemic was serious and said it was legitimate. That people were concerned. That testing had not gotten out there. Yet I mean this is what a pandemic one thing. The president said the other night I really agreed on was. We're all in this together and I hope the president of the United States starts acting more like we're all in this together but if it if we can at least have the same set of facts to start from which is we are in the middle of global pandemic. This is frightening. This is a real danger door for senior citizens in our grandmothers or grandfathers mothers or fathers which certainly sounded like that last night on Fox News. There was no talking anymore as there had been on some shows about hoaxes and media hoaxes but if we if we can have a debate on how to best do that right. Is it bands? Coming in and out of this country is that this is Blah is long as we're debating the same facts and everybody is just interested in one thing and that is beating this pandemic. Yeah well that's a good step forward for us as a country and the prevailing prevailing question. that that really stands to be the number one question for the entire country right now is how is it possible? How is it possible that? In some cases desperate people cannot get still. Can't I have you know Willie? We've got a good friend. And he was exposed to corona virus and try desperately to get testing. Couldn't do it so that's say. Just send him home. And he's he's counting the days he's you know he's gotta be locked in lockdown for the next four days separated from his family because they don't have a test to tell him whether he's he's positive or not so he's going to be off of work for about four or five days and people who work for him are not going to be getting a paycheck. This is this is being repeated across the country in Ohio reports. Are they only have fifteen hundred at guy in the entire state of Ohio in California Gavin? Newsom said you basically sent me out copiers without eight. Yes you gave me test. Kits did you. Don't have the chemicals to actually make the test kits worth a damn well this. This is what we really need somebody in as our. It's not as their he needs to quit. He needs to go home. He needs to play tiddlywinks or wiffle ball or whatever as our does when he's at home and we need to get somebody in there who will answer these questions. When are we going to get the testing kits win will old elderly? Americans be able to go in and get a test win. They wanted test to know if they're safe or not. What doctor Crouch you said yesterday. And we'll ask him again shortly here on this show is. We're not set up for this and the question is why is the wealthiest country on the face of the earth? Not set up for this. And you're right. That's the protocol people are getting New York and in cities across the country. Don't come into an er. Don't go look for task because we just don't have them go home isolate yourself. Drink a lot of fluids. Taking Ibuprofen treated like you've got the flu and just stay away from other people. That's the best we can do right now and of course me he. Yesterday there were reports in early on the president and want the testing process to go forward because he didn't want to get the positives because he knew that if numbers went up it was going to be bad for his reelection campaign. I trust that we are well beyond that. I trust that we are beyond that. But if we are beyond that we need a federal official that works for Donald Trump's administration to step forward and give us a time line. When are we going to get the tests? How quickly will our mothers and Fathers Grandmothers and grandfathers get the test? When can our children who may be testing positive for the corona virus? When can they know whether they are not so? We don't have to self quarantine them and keep them away from their parents and grandparents. It's a lot of questions legitimate question. Let's give you a snapshot. Now of how much the rapidly spreading corona virus is disrupting almost every aspect of public life. Maryland Ohio Michigan and now Oregon have ordered schools to close statewide. Kentucky's governor has recommended closure stopping short of a mandate the cities of San Francisco and Houston have also closed schools. West Point has told cadets not to return from spring break on Monday there will be no school or mass for the archdiocese of Washington. Dc THE MORMON CHURCH HAS CANCELLED IT services worldwide in the sports world. Major League Baseball has delayed opening day while suspending spring training. The National Hockey League has paused it season. The NCWA has cancelled march madness. Nascar races will continue without spectators while formula. One has cancelled its season. Opener live nation and eighty g. The Nation's largest concert promoters have suspended all towards Broadway Carnegie Hall and the Met Opera. Have Gone Dark as new. York joins five other states in banning. Large Gatherings Disneyland Disneyworld Disney cruises and Universal Orlando theme parks have shutdown late night. Tv shows have suspended production. Jimmy Fallon Stephen Colbert and Seth Meyers. Hollywood has postponed the release. Dates to potential blockbusters the latest installment of fast and furious and Mulan in the race for the White House the president has halted his campaign rallies. While Sunday's debate between Joe Biden Bernie Sanders has been moved from Arizona to CNN's Washington studio to cut down on travel which brings us the stock market. And its worst one day drop since black Monday in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven exactly one month. After the Dow soared to an all-time market high by one measure for total stock market value gained under president. Trump is now gone. The day started with the Second Circuit. Breaker triggered this week after the S. and P. plunged more than seven percent just after just minutes after the opening bell causing a fifteen minute trading. Halt the Fed tried to ease investors as the markets began to slide by pumping one point five trillion dollars into short term funding markets. Over the next two days however the day continued on a decline the Dow plunging over twenty three hundred points drop of ten percent while the S&P and the Nasdaq both sank over nine percent. Let's bring in some of the best voices on this topic. Former treasury official and morning Joe Economic Analysts Steve Rattner an NBC news senior business correspondent and MSNBC anchor. Stephanie Rules Stephanie. You Look Stephanie. At the Fed did yesterday they've pumped one point five trillion dollars and the market kept collapsing. it was last week. I guess that the Fed cut rates a half point to also tried to stop slide. The slide continued investors. Are They not sending the message to the White House and the world that this is not a financial crisis? This is a health care crisis that is causing a financial crisis. Stop throwing money at the problem. It's not GonNa fix it. You've got to fix the healthcare crisis. I because all these markets crashing. That's the fever. That's the symptom of the underlying disease. That's absolutely right Joe. What the Fed did yesterday wasn't was different. From a rate. Cut The one point five. Trillion is really to keep lending going to make sure we don't run in to a banking or a funding issue but something to remember when you see the markets tank like this. It's because we're finally actually addressing this health crisis and in order to address it you basically have to put the whole country. We're putting our economy on pause or asking every American to sort of change almost every aspect of the way we live our lives and the sooner we do that the sooner we can get to the other side of this. I mean there is positive if he looked to China this morning. All forty two of the apple stores are reopening. You're seeing in South Korea. Those numbers start to go down. So the positive is now that we're actually assessing and addressing this risk at least from corporate America than the sooner we can do that and send everybody homesick until they get better then we can come back because fundamentally the economy is much better shape than it was in a wait and you said it exactly right. This is a health crisis turned into a financial crisis. That's very different from where we were no eight. But you know Steve Rattner. The problem is right now. We don't have testing. Americans can't get tested because we we have a president and a CDC that is botched this from the very beginning so until we get that testing until we know how widespread this pandemic is in the United States of America. We can't start figuring out when companies are going to come back online. We can't start figuring out when people are going to start filling into stadiums again. We can't figure out when they're going to start spending their money can't again can we know. Of course we can. I think you talked about a health price. Financial CRISIS IS ONE CRISIS. In between which is an economic crisis the financial crisis we're looking at is really a reflection of what's going on in the economy. This is very different than eight. Oh eight was a financial crisis fundamentally more or less healthy economy and financial crisis here. The economic crisis is that people have basically starting to stop work. There essentially economic activity is me just read off dropping at a dramatic pace and that is going to come at a huge cost to our economy. When I was on the show I think three or four days ago. It looked like there was maybe sixty five percent chance of recession. I think today it's well over ninety percent. The BANKS THE BANK. Economists are all taking down their forecasts very substantially J. P. Morgan is predicting negative growth in the first quarter of negative growth in the second quarter. You can't have this much of a succession of economic activity without having a major implication for the financial markets which obviously see recession. Have the markets overreacted? Or not or not. I think certainly part of what's going on in the financial markets reflect a lack of leadership at the top a lack of testing kits a president who goes on television to try to reassure the nation and the stock market immediately rolls over. There's really no sense in the in the Wall Street community that I live in. There's no sense that there's any leadership here he plan for how we're going to get out of this and that's why you see them on the market in this panic stage. Will it stay that way? I don't know it depends a lot on what happens in Washington and the last thing I would say. Is that when you have a recession which we will almost certainly have you need to react to that and you need to provide. This is where Washington has a job which is to provide support to the economy. And this time. They're talking about a bill and watching at the moment. Which is a completely inadequate bill to address the broader economic questions. It may address sick. Leave or this or that. It's not gonNA stop the recession. We need a major piece of legislation out of Washington and given the gridlock. That's been down there for four. Years is absolutely no sign of that happening. Yeah but inuit concerns me. Is that everybody's talking about and I watched CNBC YESTERDAY. And there are a lot of people on there talking about. We need the federal government to provide this stimulus plan. We need the federal government to provide this this plan to workers. I mean yes. We need to figure out how to provide economic relief but again. You're just putting a bandage on a much bigger problem. That's going to continue to fester until you take care of the underlying problem. We need somebody telling US why. We'RE NOT ABLE TO GET TEST KITS TO AMERICANS. Were not able to get accurate figures on how widespread this pandemic is. We're not able to predict where this pandemic is going to go in the coming months until we begin the testing consistently. And that's that's what is so frustrating to me right now is everybody's talking about putting together packages For Economic Relief. I the problems are going to continue until we take care of the medical issues underneath and bad starts with testing. Joe Joe actually sounds like the biggest investors in the market right. Now we're not talking about economic stimulus. The two things they are asking for are the number of tests of vaccine and simply. How many people here have you remember? Dow futures plummeted right onto the president spoke because the first thing he was talking about was how much better we've done than Europe. How many less than Europe remember it was people overseas? Who are waking up to that going. Sorry you have no idea how many people have who have it. You haven't even tested everyone. Yeah the markets are like the rest of us like people they want to know what the hell is going on where the end of this says. Let's also bring in Ian Bremmer. He's president and founder of Eurasia Group and Foreign Affairs columnist and editor at large for Time magazine. Good Morning I'm even talking and writing a lot about China Steph. Just mentioned that the forty two apple stores in China are opening again. Maybe that's some kind of a signal that progress is being made. What has China done? We know that they've hidden a lot of the numbers. We know there's corruption there. We know it's a different kind of society than we have here. What is China done to begin at least to get its arms around Corona Virus? That maybe we can learn from here. Well they mishandled this desperately at the beginning as you say but but since then the recognition that Xi Jinping had personal vulnerability in not reacting effectively corona virus led to an extraordinary amount of direct quarantine over seventy million people in the most severe quarantine surveillance state that we'd ever experienced in the history of the world as a consequence of that their new cases are now down to virtually nothing and a double digits on a daily basis compared to the total of almost one hundred thousand that we've heard and that's meant that their economy has started to restart. It is restarting more slowly than they would have liked precisely because they don't want further outbreaks. And that's going to have an economic implication the other thing I'd mentioned more broadly what's China doing is. They're responding with propaganda very effectively against the United States inside Chinese media the amount anti US propaganda you're seeing is immense compared to when we had the China deal with the United States when they were being much money based on what it obviously started there. So what's the anti us? Based on the Americans going out and saying well this is the Wuhan Flu. It's the China flu. You're seeing that from the Republicans you're seeing that from the trump administration for president trump himself and also with some of the talk of well. Now this is going to bring manufacturing back to the US the Chinese the official spokesperson of China yesterday came out and actually floated a conspiracy theory that this originally came from the American military in Europe while the Europeans are looking at the Americans. And saying how dare you announce our ally announce a travel ban of our citizens before you even tell us before you even quoted. They condemned uniformly. The Chinese should go into Italy a member of Belton road and said we're going to provide you with a lot of medical aid and you actually see the plane showing up so when we go to China and say things like we want you to help us with Wa in three and six months time. The Chinese have made immense ground. Final point here. Steve talked about how we're probably entering. Almost certainly an economic recession. Right now the of this is a geopolitical recession. We don't have the ability to respond according to fashion. We'VE HAD TO G zero summit so far emergency of the finance ministers central banks. They've come up both times and said they're monitoring the situation. There's no emergency G. Twenty. There's no summitry between trump and the other leaders that lack of political resilience is an immense problem for dealing with this globally going forward. You don't even have the ability here to come to some agreement as to what we would do let alone with the rest of the G. Twenty medical system is in dysfunction. And that's affecting the market no question. I just want to very quickly. Underscore one thing you said. China did respond effectively after botching. A little bit at the beginning but they did things that we cannot do in this country. I think they quarantine hundreds of millions of people. They got everybody cellphone data. They tracked every used their facial recognition technology they put. They put people on lockdown whether they liked it or not no process. They just did it. And that's something that we both don't have. The tools to do nor the political will to do is the restart. That's happening in China right now. We talked potemkin villages. There are potemkin companies. Where the local officials are very scared about not having any new cases so they'll set the electricity going they'll get the trucks going. They don't all have workers so again the startup and China's GonNa take some time. There's one point though. Remember what Joe is saying. We first started this two days ago. We had members of the of the media telling America. This a corona is a hoax. It's a conspiracy theory to president. Who saying you should go to work a week ago. So we're a far cry and that we at least have to acknowledge this and tell people what to do. Yes I understand that we are at the furthest other stream and as I said before. There's no doubt in my mind I can't quantify it. The some percentage of what's happened to the stock market is a lack of leadership. Confusion lies untruths being told at the top but meekest civil society. As we've said and state governments and local governments have filled the void at this point. We all make you hear time and time again. Steve said that some of this is on the president. Of course a lot of it is on the president right now because again what you here. Time and time again is is markets need transparency. They hate the unknown. As we've been saying this show for a week. The president should deliver the worst case scenario. And say this is how bad it can get and this is what we're going to do to try to prevent that from happening. Markets is Stephen Stephanie. And everybody else knows a lot better than me. Markets then can count that in can consider that can make their decisions and if they get the bad news then then they'll prepare for that and then the markets will slowly start moving up again. They have still not been given that. You have to ask the question why that's not happening when you go. Why are there still not enough test? Because some markets can't make calculations on when companies are going to be back up online until they know how widespread the viruses since this started since this started testing has been fundamental and for some reason even Dr Fouled. She says it's a complete failing you have to ask. Why at this point? Why are we in this situation joining? Hey everyone it's Tremaine Louis. 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The roller coaster is not any easier to stomach now than it was two years ago. Each week we're going into America to tell voters stories. He's doing the best he can for the country. Because doesn't mean that we should use on might've you can find new episodes of into America and your feet every Thursday to subscribe search into America. Where you're listening right now. Joining us now from the White House. Nbc News correspondent Hans Nichols and senior writer at Politico and Co author of the playbook. Jake Sherman Hans will start with you. Are we getting any answers why? The president just tweeted seconds ago. All red tape is being cut. But he sees we blaming a lot of this on the Obama administration on their response to h one n one so. When I walked in this morning the lights were on upstairs. The White House. That's always indication that we could be hearing for the present late last night. He was blaming. Joe Biden this morning it seems more a general critique of the Obama Administration he is indicating these things that some magical solution may be happening with the FDA and that all red tape will be cut. They do have the ability to waive some regulation. So that's where the president is rhetorically this morning We still don't have any answers really on whether or not. The president's personal physician is going to order a test for him or you can get a test last night. We heard from Dr Raji saying it's all up to the president's personal physician because the president at least those in his inner circle have been exposed to those who tested positive for the virus skies. Well the the president has been. I mean you hearing one congressman after another one official after another. That is self quarantine. Tainting Governor Scott. Now Senator Scott from Florida has done that because he had contact with somebody who was a carrier the president where we saw the picture yesterday. I believe. Wasn't he next to somebody who who is a carrier as well. So you have United States senators that are self quarantining for an isolating themselves for having contact even less direct and the president has had several people. I'll yield my time to Stephen Stephanie. On what the market reaction would be. Should the president announce a self quarantine? But I suggest that it would be pretty dramatic messing all of this. They you know. The White House is clearly on political footing. Right they they. In some cases they treat it like a public health crisis and other times especially from the president. They're treating this as a political matter. The market react and the reaction to that across the board Would be substantial so. I'd imagine that's playing into their calculus on whether or not they are at least announcing if any internal tests on a vodka and or the president guys again. The question is though how much worse do the markets get if God forbid? The president had corona virus. Because he's had these I party contacts in these spreads it around to other people. I mean there's a reason people self quarantine and I do agree. I completely agree. You don't want the president doing that it would be. It would be tough on the markets bite. If if we're telling senators and congressmen and telling others as well as citizens to self quarantine under those circumstances a very worried about the president right now all right so jake Sherman. Congress obviously has power to try and help people who are suffering through this crisis. I would think they would not go home on their weeklong recess before getting it done. So what's going on? They're gonNA pass today a pretty sweeping bill. You guys alluded to it before. That's going to among other things institute. Free Corona virus testing around the country. It's going to make sure kids who are out of school get school lunches but denied as you guys. Also alluded to the sweeping package. That people might be expecting from Congress partially. Because they're going to have to do this in bites. I mean they're doing this against the backdrop of spreading crisis which they have no idea. How big is how broad. It is how how impactful beyond the markets are on global health. Just one quick thing. The President alluded to red tape being cut. We have some of those details in playbook this morning and the FDA is going to allow a public and private labs to begin testing in New York. They're putting someone in charge of testing a nationwide. They're allowing testing on private lab platform. So they are doing some things to cut back on the red tape but I make this point playbook this morning and I think it's important to keep in mind the rest of this year the next five six seven months Congress is going to be wrestling not only with the public. Health fallout from this but the economic fallout. And I think I in my conversations yesterday and the Capitol members of Congress believed that they're going to have to bail out airlines insurers hotels mortgage lenders student debt people with student loans. Who CAN'T PAY STUDENT LOANS? The expectation among senior members of Congress is that this is going to be a very costly broad and expansive endeavor Hans. Let's go back to the White House Speaker when you on a question. I still haven't really got an answer to. Maybe you can help me out here. We have the opportunity to get test kits a month ago from the World Health Organization. We would already be up and running would have all the data. We need to do as many tests South Korea's doing every day ten thousand every day. That's about all we've done in total why. Why did the White House say no to the World Health Organization Test Kits? Which would have alleviated all of these problems and we would know where we are. The markets would probably be thousands of points higher and Americans would have a grip on whether this is going to be a serious as many believe it is. The answer is probably somewhere between Hubris and the sort of the protocols that you have in place for testing Americans so you've heard over and over again. The president talking about how we are the best response. We have the best healthcare system. He's just contradicted himself this morning though and he seems to be attacking the CDC in this tweet. That just came out three minutes. Go let me read it to you real quickly for decades the CDC Gov looked at and studied it's testing system but did nothing about it But a pandemic would never happen. They hope he's going on to blame. President Obama guys. It can't be both the United States can't stand next to CDC officials and talk about how great America's healthcare is and talk about the response. And then wake up on a Friday morning after all this market turmoil and decide that the CDC is the culprit here so they're going to have to reconcile some of this rhetoric and we may get a chance to talk to the president later on today. He's got a meeting with industry executives at one thirty here at the White House skies. And and part of reconciling this question Joe. I just wonder it's safe to say that. The president has not been clear every step of the way on testing. That's actually generous on my part. Is it fair to ask like the Mullahs report like Ukraine? Where the White House worked to squash information to keep people from testifying to redact things to make sure the information is out there if this information about testing is threatening to trump's presidency. Is it fair to ask that? He is putting off the inevitable. Perhaps this administration put off something that was fundamental that could be in place that Dr Foul. She calls a failing complete failing. Is it possible this administration did that for political reasons? Wrote should look into it Npr actually had a report yesterday that there were political calculations. President want the numbers to go higher because the higher the krona virus numbers. The more would hurt him politically in the campaign. But you know I think most Americans right now that have loved ones that they're concerned about say let the politicians and let the historians worry about that in the future. I think Willie most Americans right now are concerned about what the White House is going to do now and I mean let's a we have heard this corona virus. This pandemic is dangerous. It's bad but it's not. It's not the killer pandemic that many have feared for a long time. There is the possibility I mean really. I think that maybe we can cut the red tape that took so long that caused these delays. We can cut the red tape and be better prepared for the next pandemic that comes along because there will be another pandemic coming in the next few years and it may be far more deadly than the corona virus where you can't just isolate people and it magically goes away. The President says the frustration. You here in some of the officials and the doctors voices that red tape probably should have been cut back in December and not. Now we're having to shut down our our society to prevent this from spreading further. Jake Sherman hurt Senator Lankford. We've heard other Republicans come out and say no no. The president is wrong about this. You can't get a test whenever you want it. We've seen Republicans. Do the responsible thing many of them Lindsey Graham and others and quarantine themselves. Are there any of those people? Because we've asked this question this now become moot over the last three years. Is there anybody around the president and tell them? Hey Stop Man. But are any of those people like Lindsey Graham those Republicans in Congress that you cover their close to the president who can prevail upon him and and tell them how serious this is and you know this morning continuing his. What about is what about Obama with the H One n one. What about Joe Biden? He was doing that again yesterday as well. That's not helpful right now. This is a serious moment in the country. Needs him to lead probably not Let's just be honest probably not. I mean Mark Meadows. Who's now his chief of staff has quite acute sense of the politics of this all. And maybe he'll prevail upon him that. This is an important instance. I think what's really useful to think about? Is how limited. The president's involvement is in actual things that might help the economy and this public health crisis. He's had next. He's not called the speaker of the House once he they've not spoken. Vice President Mike Pence it presumably is in charge of a kind of government wide effort to to combat this Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Who should have no involvement because these the secretary of the Treasury not? Hhs Secretary or anything like that is the one negotiating with Congress. Donald Trump is basically at this point of figurehead for better or worse In this instance. It's it's amazing to see that. He's just become a bystander. As the New York Times put it a a passenger in this car while the rest of the Administration. Does the actual work needed to govern? And and that's why there's a deal today. Because Nancy Pelosi and Steven mnuchin spoke eat times yesterday on the phone and policy could work with Mnuchin via she considers him an adult and won't speak to the president. Bush has next to no relationship with them. So no I don't think I don't think I think the president feels besieged. I think he feels under fire and he needs somebody to blame. Who Cares about what the Obama Administration did here? I mean he's been in charge of government for three years. And even the Obama Administration. Did he could undo so I just I don't really understand I don't understand it and I don't think many Republicans I speak to understand it a really care what he has to say about the Obama Ariz. See you're at the New York Times? Maggie Haberman Peter. Baker have a piece in the Times this morning saying the president has become a bystander to a crisis. Politico's Jake Sherman. Thank you very much still ahead on morning. Joe We'll talk more about the global impact of the spread of Corona virus. What the United States can learn from Italy after leaders put the entire country on lockdown. We'll have a live report from Rome. Plus as we mentioned we will talk directly to Dr Anthony. Fao Cheat a member of the White House. Corona virus taskforce and one of the leading infectious disease doctors in the world. You're watching morning Joe. We'll be right back. Hey Guys Willie geist here. This week on the Sunday. Sit down. Podcast I get together with one of the biggest artists in the history of music. Should Nyah Twain. Get our conversation now for free. Wherever you download your podcasts secretary. As our has not always given the president the worst case scenario of what could happen. My understanding is he did not push to do aggressive additional testing in recent weeks. And that's partly because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of Corona virus outbreak and the president had made clear the lower the numbers on corona the better for the president better for his potential. Re-election this fall over one hundred and thirty two thousand cases at the corona virus and nearly five thousand deaths in one hundred and twenty three countries have now been recorded. France is closing all schools as it prepares for a quote Italian scenario where the death toll has surpassed thousand joining us from Rome. Nbc News Foreign Correspondent Matt Bradley Matt. What's the latest on the ability to respond there? It's a really difficult situation here. It's really stressing the health system. Here you know the health system in the north of Italy where this is really hit the hardest. It's quite sophisticated. Kind of belies. A lot of the stereotypes that this country didn't have a health system that was adequate enough to meet the challenge. The health system in the north in Lombardy where which Milan is. The capital was very prepared. It's one of the best in Europe. It ranks right up there with Germany or the UK and they're still really really struggling and we're now well into this. Massive nationwide lockdown in which the government of Italy has said that sixty million people across the country need to stay at home. And that's why you know it's almost noon here in the center of Rome. And if you listen you can't hear anything. It's totally silent and that's really surprising. For this city. It's chaotic dynamic city. And now it's on complete lockdown and know. It's a chilling really chilling scenario. We spoke with some people yesterday who were walking around who are getting fined by the police. I spoke with one gentleman. Who was the chef at a restaurant? He had just lost his job effectively that morning because he works in this restaurant that has been shut down all of the restaurants bars cafes. Most businesses have been told to stay closed so he went to his restaurant to try to rescue thousands of dollars worth of food to try to bring home. It was all going to go to waste and he decided to stop the street and snap a picture of how vacant street was. The police came up and they had some words for him. Here's what he told us. The police find me. How much did they find? Sixty euro will maybe eight. Zero depends on the Oscar my certification of what? I work wedding. Yeah you need to have a paper telling where you work where you're going Limitation of your freedom. It's ugly so this limitation of your freedom. I mean we here. We are able to walk around on the streets because we've gotten a permission slip from the police but for most people they have to stay at home you know. This gentleman was fine. A lot of people have been fined but the government has also said that. If you resist that you could face up to three months in jail now. We spoke with the Ministry of Interior. They said they haven't actually imprisoned anyone violating the lockdown. But I think that as this goes on as it goes on and on and on weeks and weeks we're going to start to see Italians Resist and then we could start seeing some real police action. The mood has changed in the last couple of days. And we've seen more angry confrontations between the public and the police guys so Matt Joe. Scarborough here we. We've seen pictures inside of a Italian hospitals emergency rooms and it looked like it looked like war zones. They were doctors having to basically perform triage decide which patients had the best chance of survival and leaving. Those who didn't to die. Has that situation eased up at all or are they still in a constant state of crisis? That situation is getting worse. And it's a warning for the rest of Europe. We're starting to hear actually this cases in Germany just spiked. You know a couple of days ago. We had heard the Germany beating the curve that they were the ones who were successful because they had gotten out in front of all of these cases will now. That doesn't seem like it's the case thing. Is that once? This virus insinuates itself in a small segment of the population. It really is very difficult to stop and here in Italy. We have this experiment with radical measures to try to control the spread of the virus. This huge unprecedented lockdown the worst since World War. Two and it's still viruses still spreading. So it's almost as best efforts to stop the spread of this virus. The most severe might not help if the medical system is already overstressed and if the virus has already spread to a certain level and that's what the mathematicians are modeling. It's going to be really hard to stop once. You already have a couple of cases and that's why president trump's effort to try to block travel into the. Us is unclear whether that's GONNA work because they're already are these cases virus cases in America. You can't necessarily stop what's coming. Guys Yep. Nbc's Matt Bradley in Rome. Thank you very much it and I just want. Underline things really quickly that are important for viewers to get out of what magic said the first one is of course that this virus is is extraordinarily difficult to contain even locked down the numbers continue to grow the emergency rooms continue to be in a state of chaos and as he said one of the best healthcare systems in Europe one of the best healthcare systems in the world also talked about mathematicians being able to model the spread of the virus. They have testing so they have mathematicians. Scientists healthcare officials that can actually do those models and predict. What's going to happen next? We don't have the testing of the United States. And the reason I keep repeating that this morning is because until we get testing until every American is able to get tested and instead of so few then. We're not going to be able to model where this is going next. And if we can't model where it may go next. We're not going to be able to bend that curve. Downward and protect senior citizens protect our loved ones. Protect those who are actually the most disadvantaged when it comes to healthcare really well put on another country hit particularly hard as Iran in fact satellite images suggest the regime. There is digging mass graves as long as a football field to handle the bodies of victims. You would think it couldn't get any uglier than that. But our next guest says the United States has had an even worse response than Iran. Joining us now. The director of the Harvard Global Health Institute Dr A. She's Shy. He is practicing physician and also professor of Medicine at Harvard. Medical School and says America's Corona response is quote unmitigated disaster that the administration has brought upon the population so doctor. Let's start right there. Given what you know about the data of how this virus moves and how the United States has responded what Phaser we in and where are we headed? Good morning so that it's very painful for me to use those words The federal response really just has been a fiasco We've had two months. I think Joe's been this point all morning. We've had two months ago ready. And we're the only major country in the world that cannot test people far more readily than we are South Korea doing more tests every day than America's doing has done all until today so so things really are a mess and the problem is we have fifteen hundred cases. Sixteen hundred cases. That's who we've identified my best guess and this is a gas because I don't know week or we're not doing testing my best. Guess is there are many thousands of Americans infected maybe ten thousand or more Americans infected And we can't really. We can identify who they are. We can't take care of them and we can't Testing based strategy to get ahead of this virus and so if Americans if your viewers are wondering why are schools shutting down Y Our sport events cancelled. It's basically because the federal response has been so poor that we're now stuck with these very extraordinary measures which we hope will help. I think they will help But boy are we behind the eight ball on this and I can't believe we're here One more quick thing you know the president's tweeting about the CDC the CDC is the best public health agency in the world period. We all around the world we looked the CDC. This is not the fault. The problem here is that the administration has been trying to downplay. It has not taken this disease seriously. A week ago the president was saying this is nothing you not much worse than the flu. While the rest of us were screaming that we are headed for a world of hurt and the public health people have been ignored. Dr Falcon has been ignored until recently. So we've got a real problem ahead of us. Dr Willie geist appreciate you being here this morning. I think the question most Americans from the outside who don't work in the world of medicine have is. Why can't we get these test out? This is the United States of America. We've got innovators by means of production. Industry things quickly. Where are the test? We got news that the Cleveland Clinic is rushing at. Its Own test now at twenty four hour test from the Mayo Clinic. For example these other entities are stepping into the void. Here but why can the United States not quickly produce these tests and get them to the hospitals? That need them so low A. T. almost two months ago W. H. O? The World Halter musician put out a test. Kit Sixty countries decided to take it. We decided we weren't gonNA use it. Joe TESCO okay fine. We wanted to develop our own. That's not that's not crazy. We've got a lot of capability But it's been one failure after another and and look. This is not about red tape. There's always red tape and everything and the whole point of leadership. It's a cut through the red tape not two months later but upfront and so now we're playing catch up. We have the most innovative most dynamic scientific community in the world. I think we have a phenomenal health system but our government has been impeded to that has not been helpful. The FDA has been stopping labs from producing the test until very very recently. Why why is that? I don't I have to tell you you're going to have to ask the administration. I am baffled by this. I've been talking to my friends at the at the FDA. They don't understand the decision making that's happening at the at the senior most levels It is really baffling why it is that the administration you know there are theories like while the president doesn't want to know how many cases are well you don't WanNa know doesn't stop the virus from spreading and the viruses continue to spread across communities in America and deciding that we just WanNa close our eyes and pray that like this will go away isn't a strategy. It's not GonNa dr where you were seeded right now. You're surrounded by some of the finest medical institutions in the world in Greater Boston. Yup and yet you go fifty miles west of where you're seated it. Mimics much of the country in terms of medical facilities in terms of places to go to seek treatment. What do we do about that? Let's talk about where I'm seated in Boston. Some of the best medical centers the Brigham Mass General these great academic centers if I develop symptoms corona virus today and. Let's say somebody who was at high risk if if the question is by called up my doctor today in Boston and said I need to be tested or my doctor thought. I needed to be tested. Can I get tested? The answer's almost surely not we have so few tests. That very very people are getting tested. get fifty miles out. It's so the doctor. Dr Joe Joe Scarborough your are. Are we making any progress? Have you heard an administrator? I mean I understand. They botched things. I understand it right. But I'm not hearing as our is or was asked last night when they're going to get test to people. He refused to answer the question. On Sean Hannity Show. Do you have any evidence that this White House is moving towards getting testing to Americans? So what the president promised several weeks ago? If you WANNA test you can get a test. We'll actually happen. Look Vice President pence a week ago. Ten days ago even remember now when has been promising a million tests are going when I talked to state health officials and when they're trying to make plans for what to do this week and next no one knows where those numbers are coming from. No one knows when those are going to be arriving. And everybody's now starting to build their own tests because there is no faith that the federal government is going to be able to deliver on the most basic thing that Iran and South Korea and Taiwan can deliver to its people are federal government continues. Not Do so. I think there's just a lack of faith that when the vice president says we're going to have a million tests. Now look if Dr Tony Foul G. Says we're going to have a million has believe him because she has more credibility than anybody else in American this issue but I the political leaders. It's hard because they've promised this to us and they're not delivering all right director of the Harvard Global Health Institute Dr A. She's Jaw. Thank you very much Very very hard to hear some of this. It is it is already here and it was hard for him to actually say it. He's headed hurting. Have to say that and and this is not like we see rattener. It's not like we lack the technology. We obviously may lack the will in the White House to get sick. Americans tested still. We lack the will in the White House. I think it's also a failure throughout the government in many ways you heard you heard the doctor talk about the. Who tests that? We decided not to take for whatever reasons we produce. The test didn't work and so on this is this is where we look this. Can you trace some of this back to the stock market? This is a lack of confidence in this government and his inability to even the simplest things like etta tests kit out and it really is quite remarkable and I think the responsibility really goes certainly starts at the top but I think it does. It does go fairly far down in our government in Joe. Just use the word we lacked the will also lacked the ability. And you might remember Steve Bannon. When the trump administration took the White House talking about deconstructing the federal government deconstructing the existing apparatus government. Do you think that this is partly maybe mostly what we're dealing with now? The deconstruction the destruction of government. That helps people you know. Actually I think you're GonNa find that our institutions is still pretty capable. I think there's a lot of resilience underneath the top of leadership in the US government. And I think that's why we eventually do get our act together because you've got states you've got mayors you've got corporations and they have the architectural work under a providence. We don't have trust in our leadership an absence. We really didn't want to have a crisis under this administration and we got lucky for over three years. Then get lucky this time but let's not forget that trump tried to cut the CDC in every budget that he is. I know unfortunately stopped but he was also tried to do so many things with so many strongmen leaders around the world. Think about the Russians. He was stopped. I mean the story of trump. How many times. He's made efforts to shoot himself in the foot. Both domestically and internationally right shoot. The country in the foot and was unable to because the institutions are actually surprisingly resilient and. I think that at the end of the day that will be the story when we look back on this despite all the pain. We're feeling right now. That will remember. I hope so. Ian Bremmer and Steve Rattner. Thank you both so much and coming up. We've seen a stark contrast between what president trump and what top health experts are saying about. The Corona virus will talk to infectious disease expert. 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WokeAF Daily 4.29.20 - Black Lives Don't Matter

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WokeAF Daily 4.29.20 - Black Lives Don't Matter

"Only Good Morning folks and welcome to woke up daily with me. Your Girl Danielle Moody here. Live from my bunker if I sound a little bit down. It's because I am last night. I was watching the news and while hard stop there you can understand why I was down but it was watching the news and the beat with our melber and they threw up a an incredible graphic that really struck to my core The graphic Red Cova nineteen has disproportionately affected African Americans and it lists out some of the seven major areas. listing out the percentage that African Americans make up of the population and then the percentage of deaths and I want to read you a few Washington. Dc African Americans make up forty five percent of the population. They're making up seventy five percent of the deaths. New York nine percent of the population. African Americans make up nineteen percent of the deaths. Louisiana African Americans make up thirty three percent of the population. Sixty five percent of the deaths Michigan. Fourteen percent forty six percent of the deaths Missouri. Twelve percent of the population African Americans. Make up forty four percent of the depths. Wisconsin seven percent of the population thirty nine percent of the deaths South Carolina twenty seven percent of the population fifty five percent of the deaths last night. I tweeted and I asked this question. And it's one that I really want everyone who is listening to okay. F on a regular basis To think about if these numbers reflected how the corona virus was averaging white people. Do you think states would be rushing to reopen? You think there would be protests about. Stay at home orders. America always finds a way to remind us. That black lives do not matter. I read those statistics and my heart is extraordinarily heavy because it is always so unsettling depressing startling. Just how little white people care about black people's lives and how much they do not matter. Black folks will care for your loved ones in the nursing homes. That you shove them in and beyond the front lines at the grocery stores janitors cleaning up your hospitals caregivers. Mta bus drivers subway conductor's it's like we're invisible and the only way that you know that we're there is because you're putting your foot on our fucking backs so that you can step up one more wrong and I realize that I really am starting to believe that this country is just don't I don't know if it's ever GonNa get any better you know if you're a religious person maybe you're clinging to scripture in this moment you know if you're a person that doesn't have any faith if you're an atheist you know maybe this the way that humans are treating one another Right now is just you know further proof right that there is no God when I think about what. This virus is making us all see. It isn't just the disparities right. It isn't just the fact that American American exceptionalism is bullshit and that so many areas of our society are broken from our healthcare system to our education system to our economic system. It's all broken and I don't think that it ever occurred to me really genuinely right because I believe in democracy and I believe when I tell you all the time that people really do have power. It's why end the show each day with power to the people and to all the People Power because I believe it. It's not just a mantra. It's not just something to say. But when I look at these numbers and I think about the systems the systems the systemic racism and oppression that is oh apparent and I think about the faces of these white trump supporters screaming about their fucking rights and their liberty wanting a fucking haircut and walking around with ar. Fifteen and gas mass. And I think about the black people that are probably dying alone in their homes because they don't have healthcare right and Or going to a hospital and being told that your symptoms are not that bad so then go home and then you go home and die and I ask myself truly like when is the Arc GonNa Bend when you think that in times of crisis that people band together but what I realize now is that if these numbers if these were white people there's no way that trump would be rushing to open the country. There's no way that these governors in some of the hardest hit places would be thinking about reopening when we still don't really know how the actually works in moves we know that it's killing black people and left the next people and the elderly and I realize now that they're all people that Republicans feel are dispensable and our don't really matter anyway. Why do you think for years? We've had to chant black lives matter because they fucking don't why do you think that Serena Williams most famous athlete in the world? She's given birth in a hospital a couple of years ago and she's telling the doctors and nurses that she has a pre existing condition. A clotting problem and that she is on medication for the treatment of blood clots and that she could feel that she was losing breath and she had to be her own advocate and get the treatment that she needed. But if she wasn't Serena Williams she would be one of the one in five black women that die from giving birth in the wealthiest and most industrialized country in the West. How is that so I just realized that in the rush to reopen that Republicans in these conservative White folks? Don't give a fuck about who they're trampling on the faces that I see outside of these stores that are screaming and banging on the steps of City Hall to get in. They look like Lynch mobs. They might as well they might as well be saying death to black people. Death to the poor death to the Latino community you know if you are a religious person. I genuinely ask you to pray because I don't know what's going to happen to us. We have a white supremacist in the White House. They are currently people children in concentration camps in this country. We haven't even been talking about. How the corona virus outbreak is faring in these detention centers. We've talked about prisons. We've talked about nursing homes but no one on major news. Networks has talked about the detention centers. Which were already seeing outbreaks of the regular flu? That was killing kids. I don't know what this moment is supposed to teach us. I honestly I am losing my grip. On what the lesson is supposed to be and I constantly say that when we're looking at trump all you need to do is follow the money but you need to follow the money any need to follow the racism and you need to realize who the Republican Party and White folks think are expendable and who. Isn't those numbers. I don't give a fuck if you're black or not. They should be startling. Because you're not fucking immune. I don't know why this virus is ravaging my community. I you know I know intellectually but in my heart. I don't know it's like how much more can vulnerable populations take you know? How much more does this country want us to bear for their economic prosperity right? The building of this nation was on the backs of enslaved Africans who gave their fucking lives for railroads and buildings and plantations and agriculture industry. And you're asking us to do it again. Some four hundred years later without even fucking flinching. It's disgusting it's despicable and it should be fucking called out on a day to day basis every hour every God Damn Day. It isn't just about reopening the country. It's about whose lives. Are you willing to sacrifice in order to do it? So say fucking loud. Just say that black lives. Don't matter just say you don't give a fuck about immigrants. Just say that. Latino community doesn't matter because this rush to reopen. That's exactly what it is about. You want US black people brown people once again to lay down our lives for your enrichment. That is the legacy of the trump administration. And you know what it's baked into the foundation of this country. Trump didn't make up racism. He just exploited it. I always look forward to welcoming back to walk a half hour Wednesday contributor author Jonathan. That's all of dying of Whiteness and the Director Center for Medicine Health and society at Vanderbilt University. Jonathan Welcome back every day I always. I look forward to Wednesday's because I have the opportunity to chat with you about so many things that I think that we are missing in this moment of the Kobe crisis and just the crisis of this administration. One of the things that I want to talk about today is this continued war that the trump administration is waging against the World Health Organization. We know that they have already cut funding in the midst of a global pandemic to the World Health Organization. I also want to know. Where's all that money going that we're no longer sending to them because it's not showing up in the states and it's not showing up. In our stimulus packages that are dried up as quickly as they are disseminated You brought up an interesting theory to me as to why there is. This continued drum against the World Health Organization. And it's not necessarily what we think. Tell me what what you have found as you've been researching What's been happening right now? Well thank you. That's a great way to begin the conversation. Let me say first of all that. In a time of global pandemic you need a global corporation. We've seen this again and again and again over the course of this crisis and other pandemics You need as much global cooperation as you possibly can. Because countries need to be only sharing information and sharing knowledge but also coordinating their responses or. That's the virus doesn't flare up in one place and then they another place more vulnerable. That's really what the World Health Organization does it's an organization that coordinates activities and it's been Very active really from the get-go really from the very beginning of this of this current virus crisis has been sounding the alarm vocally on for a couple of months. When the trump administration wasn't even paying attention juice I'm an has been coordinating research Kind of an umbrella organization corporation on everything from masks to vaccine research And so why in the world but anybody would have went up and that an an and that's what we're seeing with. The trump administration is that trump. I kind of caught a lot of people by surprise cut funding to the World Health. Over in his ation. But that wasn't enough Now they're trying to strip All any kind of resolution. Take the hotel clerk. Innovations name of everything and the we'll hope it goes Asian again overseas a lot of efforts and so what the trump administration is trying to do is is kind of go around. Who by funding a bunch of different smaller initiatives? That may or may not be politically motivated. Sounds familiar. That's also what they're doing in the United States and really kind of append any kind of centralized authority. I mean we can talk about it in a little bit but it's really gone to really appalling levels. Some I have a lot of friends have her work with the. Who scientists who robbery. And I can give you a few examples. I'm and so. Why would we do that right number? One and number one is that it's a deflection right. Trump timing again has been trying to say. This isn't my fault that somebody else's fault he's very good at passing the buck I it was the China Virus Now you've noticed you're not really using that language anymore but he needs kind of an kind of voting rights and and the other very often as a racial is other and so two. Who with a link to the world that likes to Europe with conveniently person of color who are kind of easy of image to convey? It's a very easy. It's very easy kind of Boogeyman in Iraq Now I'm not saying that. W razors perfect. It's a very large multinational organization And you know it had some problems earlier with the with the Volta Crisis for example where it was Ju- slow but that is not nothing the case here and again if there's some other organization that has reached in all of these areas You know bring it on that. They're they're really and so that's number one is that it's very convenient just election for trump. But we remember to the DOJ Jonathan because we know number one. We know that Donald trump consistently defect deflects from his wrongdoing. We know that he consistently will find the most marginalized group or or the right racial tone right to hit in order to get in order to draw attention away from his failings around America's response to cove in nineteen and the fact is right that at the same time that he's blaming the WHO we're learning from the Washington Post through the presidential daily briefings that he was being briefed about Colvin. Nineteen back at the end of twenty nineteen in December. And so how is continue to allow him to get? I mean he's using the same goddamn playbook it's not like he's trying something new and the playbook works right. It's it's not my fault. It's somebody else's fault somebody else's not somebody who looks like me. It's not an organization. That looks like us. So he's creating these categories of self and other and and and it's effective apparently with good numbers of his vase now without knowing anything about what the WHO does or doesn't do You know doesn't realize that the. Who is warning the United States from the very beginning about this virus? I'm and not only that. The United States wrote many of the rules governing. The center does so all these rules. That trump has now protesting were written by us as the third thing. Is You know. Who doesn't really have any actual power? It doesn't actually make anybody do anything it's like it's like the host of a cocktail party for all the countries right and so in a way trump is making. It seem like the. Who doing all of this evil in the various other show doesn't actually do anything right. It's like the United Nations or other kind of basically happening right and encourage courage this cooperation. Oh my God what. What do you need more than anything? Is that right now? And and so you know again. If there's this kind of go it alone mentality. We see the same model in the states. Actually rare you need a kind of uniform response because this virus spreads everybody's not working off the same playbook and so undermining the centralized authorities creating the conditions of racist which then gop kind of moves right into is exactly what it's doing on on the world stage The other important thing about the WHO? He's I encourage people who think w show some kind of evil empire just to look on the. Who on a website? I'm with the. Who does is again. It's coordinating vaccine response. It's doing a lot of very very very important. Reports about masks about antibody testing where it brings together the world's leading scientists. Another important thing. That's who does. Is it organizes efforts and places like sub Saharan Africa where the virus is really going to be a major issue and also. There's a lot of other illnesses like malaria sub Saharan Africa. And so in a way. What it's doing is trying to coordinate responses. So that so that they aren't major outbreaks in very very vulnerable countries. I'm countries were most people are not right conveniently and all and And also because I'm because the risk of of other kinds of illnesses there are ones that really shouldn't be forgetting about so this fact that this is an organization that also deals with with South America with immigration with Africa that might be great red meat for for trump space but ultimately it's short it's literally a looming disaster in terms of just what what's going to happen on other continents and also what's going to happen to. I mean a pandemic means everybody in the world's facing the same crisis And so it's it's really. It's completely completely upsetting. I I mentioned before that I had a couple of examples the WHO for sample had a massive Kind of all hands on deck and Bringing together all the all the vaccine. Scientists sold a vaccine trials. Everything like that The US didn't even send anybody into other jobless Switzerland so and so did us didn't even spend anybody from on a government role Bill Gates was there But nobody from the. Us government can't even though the the the Us Console in. Switzerland is right next door to show effectively and so the all. These other countries are moving at lightning speed. And it's leaving the United States behind. Because we're not for not cooperating with the idea here right is my assumption is that America is not cooperating right now because of trump and the Republicans concept of isolationism right. They have moved us away from collaborating with our allies from working in lockstep and coordination on issues whether it be right now in the midst of a global pandemic whether it was climate change any of the weather's trade any of these big the understanding the concept here is that we have ceased to be an island upon ourselves for generations at this point but trump's idea of making America great again was essentially burying our heads in the sand not caring about or paying attention to or participating in let alone leading any of these global efforts right and so because of that we there in this particular moment no one is even looking for our leadership because we have become so deficient in that on the world stage over the past three and a half years. The world is just moving without us really. I mean it's such a massive advocation of our global role not just as leaders but we're both citizens and so really what's happening. Is that the rest of the world. Just moving on I mean th th the draining of authority and has it's unprecedented particularly from where we were a couple of years ago to now in terms of all of these issues not just science and development public health and just being a moral voice in the world. It's it's it's really gone away and it's GonNa take a lot of work to get that back I mean. Can you imagine it played during World War Two? We had acted this way for example. We we'd all be living introductory rule right now. I mean we we and but that aren't like in so people always think that I'm being hyperbolic but aren't we like aren't aren't we in this? Aren't we under trump? Aren't we living under the most oppressive regime? I mean the rest of the world is watching in horror and also deep sadness right over the loss of what they thought. Right was this idea of American exceptionalism. Like look they always route this young scrappy country right. Relative to other nations in the world has been able to be a global power. But they haven't done so on their own we've done so with the with the understanding like you're saying of our role our ability to collaborate our ability to build right together and yet here we are now and so my fear is one that we are not looking at trump's deflection. In the way that we should be. We're not talking about trump's deflection in the way that we should be. We're not equating. What is happening right now with the world or with the World Health Organization to his perpetuation of white supremacy right. We're not look. We're not connecting the DOTS. How do you think that we begin to connect the dots and when I say we I mean Democrats? It's it's so hard right because trump has this bullhorn right now and so we can't see I mean. Loss of Global Authority is something that people may or may not care about But the other part is that the the domestic implications of the failure of leadership are profound but But they never seem to fall back on trump. I mean closing the borders having no immigration on screening multiple kind of crises in in other countries. But it's also causing a lot of prices points in the United States farms for example. I read this morning that there is a shortage by one hundred thousand workers on many farms and for people who kind of picked produce. The people need and fruits and vegetables. So it's It's going to create a food crisis for example our immigration policy And so the fact that The fact that these things are happening because of these horrible GOP policies within create the conditions of despair It never we never ended up closing the loop right. We ended up playing events Because trump is out there saying aren't protecting America and then he'll stick the you know over there so food on the table back on the Democrats when really resulted from his administration's policies So it's it's tough when he's got this bullhorn right now and I you know I again. I think it's important for the Democrats to seize the initiative. I think that there is a kind of larger more argument to be made about what happens when the US leads world which we have clearly lost. I think that you know. I think that there needs to be a very aggressive kind of economic of message from from the Democrats which is a unifying economic mess as raising with they can go on the offensive but it's hard because every day. Of course trump comes up with something more outrageous it. Just you know you have to eat. People feel like they have to respond to every day and they probably do but it does make it hard for me. Ariston catch if you were whispering in the ear of the Biden campaign right now which you know. I gotTa tell you. I don't know where they are right. I I really don't and I'm paying attention like you are to the news every single day and I don't know what they're doing so if you were to whisper into the ear of the Biden campaign on this particular issue. What would you say that they need to I would say W W td which is well hunter? She was understood. Ismaning right he would be using the It would be seizing spotlights. Every single day He would have a counter guy every single thing that was happening big kind of critique now I understand it's hard because there's a real reluctance to There's a real reluctance to kind of hundred mine of of a leader during the war. The war effort and things like that. But it doesn't make any sense to me why the Democrats haven't created their own kind of counter press briefings You Know Ma. Massive show of leadership. Here's an alternative vision. Maybe they're waiting for some later date and seeing how this plays out but I would say that just have to be ways to kind of seize the headlines for they've abdicated every single headline trump and and i. I really think that there needs to be a massive push to not just like. Here's our economic plan but actually in specifics figure out ways to to create a kind of counter narrative which really has been has been absent. Maybe again maybe. They're waiting waiting waiting for twenty two more. I'm twenty two million MORE AMERICANS TO FILE FOR UNEMPLOYMENT. Are they waiting for For the number of Corona virus cases to double to two million in the United States the number of deaths to double to over one hundred thousand I. There is no like the present to take action. And yet you to your point. I'm looking around and I'm saying why. Are we the only ones talking? Why isn't there a press conference every single day but other than governor Cuomo Governor? Cuomo to me. New York is the only person who has a counter punch and point and conversation then Donald Trump does he is literally the only Democrat that has to be the model in particular I mean. How can you channel that? It's it's just. I've been waiting every day for that to happen. And there's also a lot of right now democratic infighting that I find concerning kind of re re-litigating the primary And and so in a way now is not was not the time for that. The stakes are incredibly incredibly high. I think it has to be top down. Here's the coherent message. Kind of thing but I do think that I initially. I thought that the governor Cuomo was modeling what the Democrats were. Were then going to start doing a party and I it for me. Is You know I I mean. Hopefully there's a plan but I I personally have not seen and and again the open the paper any day. Every single headline is trump. And so there has to be a better strategy for you. Guys you're saying doing doing the CUOMO strategy or nationalizing Harkin nationalize the CUOMO press conferences. Something like that. I just you know I I am very worried. I'm very worried that Democrats are kind of resting on their laurels. And think that. Oh we'll we'll just let this play out. We'll let this plane this plane nosedive right and then people will wake up and be like Oh. I'm in this. I'm in this mess. I'm in this situation. Because of an imbecile in the White House. Because of his lack of globalization his lack of understanding his basic inability to understand facts and science. And that's why I'm here but to the point that we may before we even started. The interview is that that's not what the poll numbers are saying right. And so if you have this rabid forty percent of the population that will literally follow Donald Trump off a cliff and you don't have a counter narrative to this idea that opening up the economy is more important than saving lives that the quote Unquote pro-life Party has become the death party willing to sacrifice whoever and whatever in order to make a buck literally. If you're not doing that then where do we see ourselves in November? I wish I could talk to more political consultants. Obviously because You you know you and I have real conversations but I've been asked and number of media conversations what people ask me like. What deaf number would it take for? Republicans to turning on trump. Because you know we're we're GONNA have some very we have never wanted terms of death for from corona and the numbers are GonNa go up is the state and you know ridiculously reopened with no plan. And I keep telling them. There is no such number but that's a liberal fantasy to think that people are going to change their mind. In fact the more more desperate people people become because of trump's China's policies for they're gonNA follow trump if there's no alternative narrative and so in a way it's not like just letting the numbers speak for themselves. It's GonNa work. It's GONNA make people more ideological racists more More you know more willing to follow him because they don't you know it's hard to see that he's created the conditions of despair. Which then he drives from his whole playbook in my book rightness. I showed a precursor to that that basically people were dying from not having the affordable care act and made them more against the affordable care act because of the racial script that the GOP. But over it at all about the Obama and obamacare. And I think we're seeing that again and again. Now it's not like people are just. GonNa wake up and I think the Democrats should not be wait for that. They should be very clearly articulating. A Better. A better path forward. And also you know highlighting all of these problems and the other part of this is what we were talking about with the Health Organization which is trump is a master of destruction. And then all demagogues are. It's not my never my fault somebody else's fault and he and he picks the right target every time for for his base. He picks a target that morsels all of these underlying racial ideologies of these Biases fears. And so there's also just this continued to flex and narrative of nothing ever being my fault and picking just these kind of Straw man race alive Straw then Organizations like w show you know things like that and so in a way until the Democrats can Steve to counter narratives. And I think that we're just we're just leaving this for for trump. Well Jonathan. We're GONNA continue as always to keep our eyes on. All of the new said is unfolding. But I have to tell you that you know just a few days until May I'm not feeling very good about where Democrats are in this moment and the the idea that we're just playing this waiting game it's either we act or we're going to witness not only our demise through a very vicious virus but through our political ineptitude and also just. There's so much pain and suffering and loss right now. I've spent the week going to you. Know Zoom funerals last week. I mean there's so much to steer right now that I think a you know people need some hope right now and so in a way that I think I really do think there's an opening Not just you know politics just life. I mean there's there's we're we're in a moment of crisis remember number of trauma and we need some awful. I hope we'll continue the conversation as we do to try and figure out exactly what that path forward is because like I keep saying time is of the essence Jonathan and Mezzo. Thank you so much for for your conversation and for your contribution to walk. Afc daily on a weekly basis. We appreciate you so much. Thank you thank. You always excited to welcome back to the show. Kurt Bar Della no is an MSNBC MORNING JOE NBC News and USA Today Contributor. And I'm lucky because he is one of okay fs contributors as well current. There seems to be pivots happening in this White House. And one of them notably yesterday was the of the doctors at what was not labeled a Cova de briefing that we have come to know but the ramblings were still present but Dr Falcon. Dr Burkes were missing. We're being told a reports or telling us that they are no longer going to have a public facing position that they will still be attending the meetings behind closed doors but that the president and the trump administration are making this pivot towards hard reopening an economic all economics all the time. What do you make about this? I think that what president and his allies have finally. I think realizes the current virus isn't something that you can be with lies. It's all you can be with hyperbole. In tweets in bullying and all of the things that we've seen trump users prevents throng has presidency to overcome a mostly self inflicted challenges in this case that that doesn't work because this virus is spreading. Its its death. Toll is escalating in no wishful thinking or delusional. Thinking can change that and so rather than talk about the medical and health realities virus I think the president and the Republicans have now decided that they are going to pivot away from The medical facts and focus instead on the economy and even still trying to advance this blame China narrative to try to distract away from all of the failures in competencies that we've seen so far from the president the fact that are states Republican governors. Who are now moving to reopen their states and relax social distancing guide on the NC of any medical healthcare professional. That's aware of what's going on right now tells you that they are. We more concerned with the public optics. Public health advocates a huge risk. This president and these Republicans are literally gambling their entire political future on the idea that if they let people out right now the one else is GonNa it sick. That virus will start spreading Even more widely again that are asking their their supporters to put their lives and the lives of their families in their hands. And I just think that's going to end well based on everything that we know about this grammatical health standpoint. I love the fact that you use the word gamble right because I honestly do think that. That's what they are doing. They are gambling right. They are putting all the chips on the table and they are basically saying they are willing to gamble the two to three percent that scientists and doctors have told us are at risk of death right if contracting this virus that they are gambling on the fact that those people are expendable and that the majority of Americans will be happy with going back to work even though they don't know if they will fall among two three percent or even if they don't meet their maker that they won't be completely and totally impaired by the virus in hospital for a month at a time or in quarantine for for weeks at a time which has been known to happen with this virus that we're still learning about even the protesters. There are signs that say you know. We shouldn't shut down the economy for the weakest among us. I saw that with my own eyes. What is that say about a party that has been based around being pro-life when they're willing to sacrifice two to three percent of the population? Now I want people to understand because I've been talking about this on woke af for quite some time that if the country is made is the population in total is around three hundred twenty eight to three hundred and thirty million people. You're talking about sacrificing upwards of six to eight million people in that two three percent. This isn't that's that's six to eight million funerals six to eight million families friends and loved ones that will have to bury a loved one. Because of this decision how do they? How do they rationalize this? You know it's it's like everything comes down to. I think you're commish of economics in class warfare. I think that if we've seen time and again throughout this entire period of time that disproportionately people of color are the ones who are suffering the most low income economically disadvantaged families that are the ones that are bearing the brunt of this and we know that this is the people that Republicans don't care about at all they don't give a shit about these people yet And these are the same people that they target with their with their with their racial profiling policies. It the same people that they They call people from Schiphol countries yet. have no problem with white supremacists. Tally instigating things against this community. Of course they don't care if they go to work die They view them as A. It's almost like extension of servitude. A that that to them to the to the White Party. these people are the they are truly an engine that makes her country go. They do all the things that allow these rich entitled. Ceo's to to to have their private jets to stay in their vacation. Homes to escape the realities of of this virus. They don't care if they send those people to work at the slaughter because to them they're just an expendable cog in the wheel of a of of of their economy. And you notice I don't see Donald trump up there with all the masses. Oh that's right yes and how this rallies right down down with social distancing up with viruses even the Miller or Kaley macaroni or or Kellyanne Conway and Mark Meadows. And all of those people that are making these policies. I don't see them hanging out in crowds of people so long as always it do as I say not as I do. And if a couple of million people will have to get get sick and die in the process to trump. Oh well that's okay. We'll just replace them with other people doesn't matter but you know current apart so a part of Donald Trump's base is those wealthy elite one percenter. Right right the people that are. They're not going to have to sacrifice themselves or their young or anything. They're going to stay up in their ivory tower while everyone else on the ground does their bidding right in order to enrich them. That's how capitalism works in America but another part of trump's base are indeed the white workers right. Didn't he ride into office on this on? The the myth of the aggrieved white working class. So why do you think that these people are willing to sacrifice themselves for what they perceived to be the greater good? That's what I don't understand. This has always been the great. I think scam of Donald Trump. The idea that this billionaire lives in in in these in these towers were his golden toilet seats and all of that that somehow he is the the the the man of the Working Class. The patron saint of the working class saw it. It it it it. It's the clearest example of people actually voting against throw self interest that I have ever seen and for for that Middle America southern America White America. that celebrates trump. They somehow don't seem to understand that if they actually do what he tells them do. They're going to die. If you inject yourself with bleach it's not gonNA end tool for your and I I pay had against the wall honestly when I see that Fox News audience You know this white audience cheering and and and and hollering and Hooton for Donald. Trump won the things that he is prescribing. But kill them all and they are the ones who are going to experience hardship if they go back out there in places like Georgia or Wisconsin An Texas. They're they`re. They're putting their own welfare health in harm's way thinking. Oh there's no way that Donald trump or these governors would ever tell me to do this if it would hurt me so They like to make this almost a mocking type of all those liberals are always crying and whining and they're afraid we're strong and we're toughen. We got our garden our Second Amendment our freedom fries and that's going to be enough to stave off this endemic Which again if if Tom Hanks can get this is Chris. Cuomo can get this If no injuries alma if celebrities deeper all right you can get it. I don't understand how anyone else thinks that somehow because they carry a gun that's GonNa make them from the suddenly. That's I mean it it really. I am always dumb struck. By the way that that sect of trump's base unwavering base thinks about themselves. It's like as if they think that their whiteness prescribes them with some type of lottery ticket that they're sitting on that they're going to be able to cash in at some time now look white. Supremacy is real and like and in some ways is currency but when we're talking about a global pandemic that actually doesn't see borders right. That doesn't see age. We were wrong in the beginning when we said that it only was going to affect the elderly. Yesterday I heard reports about a twenty four year old woman who was pregnant who they were. They had to have an emergency C. section. The baby survived. The Mother did not and she was twenty four. We've heard stories of the first child that has died from the corona virus in the United States. That was five years old right so we know that what we initially thought is not true but the numbers do show us that it is disproportionately affecting and killing black and Brown people. Do you believe that if those numbers were not like? Why do they believe those numbers right that? Oh it's only that. But they don't believe the overarching numbers. That fifty five over fifty. Five thousand people have died in the United States in the past two months. Right even Tucker. Carlson got on air on Fox. The other day and said the economies are reopening in some states because the virus is not as bad as we thought is close to sixty thousand people dying in two months. Not that bad again. This is a reminds me of the response that we saw drastic difference responsibly. Saw when you hurricanes devastated San Juan but then when they came and storms taxes right and for trump the Republicans. It's well this is really hitting New York and vic cities and urban areas. It's not hitting in their minds. Oklahoma or Arkansas or or or South Carolina or Alabama If it were I guarantee you if if six deaths of corona were were white people in America they be approaching this whole whole lot different And and you see just in how they're reacting to this and the and the type of protesting you're seeing people in like Wisconsin You know in Georgia in this. You know our rights versus. There's the victim and tell us what to do. You all this nonsense you. It's totally driven through a racial Lens. And I think that if the situation were reversed it would be dramatically different You know it's it's always easy to be cavalier when it's other people's lives always easier to be dismissive on. Its own those other people over there not here and the irony of courses by rushing out there prematurely they're putting themselves at tremendous risk Of having this happened to them of having how it spread in highly populated like New York And places like Maryland That's going to happen in Jordan. Wisconsin if they foolishly go out there and act like nothing is going on. There's no harm to be out here. And they'll heavily themselves to blame. Honestly they blame themselves. Kurt we we know that. Oh of course not it will be something else. There's always an excuse. Always a reason not to Hold Donald Trump accountable. And I think that the one thing that trump keeps doing though that is beyond stupid is putting himself center having these these press briefings In in in giving the American people a daily reminder of who is in charge right now you know during previous crisis. You'd never see deliberately. So the president of the United States Front and center every day during the Curio. Bola they'll president Obama's eight for very delivered only two or three times because they wanted the medical professionals and scientists center and drive the response. Not The politics of it and here. We've seen kind of a reversal of that script. And Donald Trump making himself. He took a a a two day. Break for these briefings. We'll call it Before he couldn't help look back out. Her pregnancy began together so he is setting himself up failure by making himself the face of everything as he can't help themselves because he's a narcissist but also when this thing go south mobile right of course it will. I mean it's science because it's IT'S SCIENCE. It's a certainty. It's not a matter of if it's going to happen in the state of Florida or the State of Texas these places that are beginning their reopenings. It's just a matter of when and I think that you're gonNA see a huge backlash in the hall when this go south When people went out there 'cause they they. They thought that it was safe because their political leaders told them so and it turns out that they all get sick and die You know the the blood of those people will be on the hands of Party so let's look at a piece written by Morning Joe Joe Scarborough in the Washington Post this week. The cost of trump's deadly state of denial. And you know in the Peace Joe goes through essentially a time line right. A time line begins back in February when I mean excuse me begins back in January when he writes this trump said the corona virus was quote. One person coming in from China quote. We have it totally under control. It's going to be just fine. But the president's intelligence community had been warning him for weeks about the about the coming threat when he made that spurious claim he goes on to talk about in February. That trump predicted that the virus would go away by April. Well at the end of this week we're going to be in May right in trump. Send this it's like a miracle it'll disappear. Joe says that reckless prediction also came weeks. After the White House staff warned the virus would imperil millions of Americans lives while costing the US economy trillions of dollars. He calls about talking in this piece about trump's magical thinking we hear other Republicans come out in defense of this president and saying will. He is a cheerleader. He is about optimism. Is this optimism. Is it magical thinking or is it stupidity or a combination of all three well? First of all I. I've never heard anybody. Donald trump is an optimistic guy. This is someone who we use and weaponized. Paul fear is a racism to advance or radical in racist agenda imposed on the most vulnerable in our society the optimist about Donald Trump Secondly Joe's right that that that basically donald trump has been bumbling his way through this entire process frantically searching for some sort of a message that he can hold on to try to avoid. Accountability AREN'T THROUGH. Avoid being held responsible all while also trying to stave off. A you know Joe Biden who is appearing stronger stronger every day. I think that the idea that anything trump does is actually truly thought out deliberate. Is I think we've seen time again that that that's not true. He is an impulsive person with the with the impulse. Control of a six year old in he just doesn't says whatever comes to his mind at any given point in time just again the other day the fact that we started the day with the White House saying there's not going to be a press briefing. We got through the day and then all of a sudden you know what we're gonNA doing in the Rose Garden as it turns out you know. And when he made those absurd comments about legion disinfectant. It was will i. You said it then it was well. Medical professionals are arguing studies. Then it was. He was joking he was our attic about it. They changed the story so many times in just one day. You can't even keep track on bit. When asked her just because again he said for the second time that he takes no responsibility when asked by a reporter. Do you take responsibility for the fact that poison control boards around this country are excuse me having to field field thousands of calls about whether or not they should papa tied pod or instead of wiping their surfaces with the clorox bleach maybe wipe their bodies with it thirty people. There are people around this country that again believe everything that he says and he told the reporter. I take no responsibility again. So how do you put yourself like you said as the face of this pandemic the things that you are offering have no scientific and medical merit whatsoever? People follow that get sick more people die but you take no responsibility for something that you've made yourself the face off. How does that work? You know. It's the same people? Ironically enough that follow this guy who also doubt you know the science of Climate Change People who are routinely used to not who following our guy doesn't know anything about fact or science and who doesn't place a priority or value on untruth. This president WHO's told Gordon. Ten thousand lives since taking office any lies. Everything about the is trivial is crowd sizes at inauguration which really cares about that You know to the very important such as our public health during carnivorous. But when you follow a guy who just lies as easy as it is the brief Yup this this. This is what you get you know. It's it's clear that his following they don't care about the truth they don't care about fast They don't care about honesty if they did. They would've voted in support of Donald Trump Throughout his entire political career here. So it's like you get what you asked for sometimes in life and you know the the people that support him in blindly follow him and the people who enable helmet defend him You know they're they're about to find themselves in in a world of their own making and ultimately it could cost them their life. You know it seems to me that the only thing that trump cares about is the election and money right in order for him to continue to secure the bag as the kids say he needs to secure the White House and in doing so doesn't care about who he's putting in harm's way so long as the gamble pays off because trump has been gambling his entire life. What do you think about how November looks? At this moment there are polls that come out that are still coming out. Some have his approval rating up. Some have them down most have biden ahead. Some have trump ahead. What is you know every week? I'm going to ask you. What's your prediction based on the bullshit? That has happened this week off and where we will where we will end up but in in the recent polling what are you what do you think how do you? We're GONNA fair. You know I think if you if you look at where things stand at this moment. You Know Biden. Violence has an eight point. Lead over trump among twenty twenty zero election voters by two trump forty four Very rarely in any. Since the beginning of the trump presidency ever see the president break Above really forty five percent which is incredibly troubling for incoming president under even the best than serious. You know there's even a slightly larger university self identified Republicans who say that they vote for by about one time Which is When you look at the you know people forget that trump. And he's still lost the popular of three million votes and and it was against the candidate. And who forbid or worse? There is no Republican. Who would who would vote for Hillary Clinton for a myriad of reasons that's that's different this time And you know there are Republicans you know and and even though it might only be one ten if that actually happens in November that's enough to change the election frankly and then when you look at the Independence Biden has a double digit lead in this Hagman over over trump for for the better part of the year at all hypothetical matchups You combine that with the fact that trump's approval rating on his handling of the current upper outbreak has has has basically been training our now. There is kind of initial Sapporo leader Bass earlier. Which is what people do. But now that's going back down onto the forties again and the interesting thing is You know it'd be number of Americans who actually watched these briefings has been declining over the past at Wo- coin I think it was something along. The lines of fifty four percent. Said said they watch it And in about two weeks ago that number was sixty four percents so we've seen a ten percent drop in viewership of these briefings and just two weeks in because people are just. I you know again the matter whether you like the president fell your I think people are. They're not getting what they need when it comes to public health information And things you need for your kids who are sitting right there with you by the way because there's no way you can go. I think people are are changing the channel a little bit now and I think that benefits Joe Biden. Well we will see current bar gala. Thank you so much for joining us and giving some insight into the Republican mind like do I appreciate you so much. You have yourself a great week. Stay healthy and will autism. Talk to you soon. That's it for me here. Folks as always power to the people and to all the People Power get woke and stay woke his faulk and remain healthy and safe as fuck.

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Noah Rothman on the "unjustice" of social justice politics

The Ezra Klein Show

1:10:25 hr | 2 years ago

Noah Rothman on the "unjustice" of social justice politics

"Low often Klein show on the box media podcast network. I have had a week. I've had a week something I've not talked at all about on the show is my wife, and I have been pregnant, and I haven't talked about it because it was just too personal. And I didn't want to jinx anything or say anything. I don't know. It was too much. It's all been too much. But I had a whole set of ideas for how the show would go when we had our baby I was going to save up a bunch episodes and get guest host to do a bunch of episodes. It's gonna be really smooth. And then we had our baby six weeks early. We had a bunch of health complications. And that twenty four hours thirty six hours was the scariest hours of my entire life. I've never been through anything like that. And thank God. My wife is healthy, and our baby is amazing. Everything people say about what an overwhelming experience. It is is true. I bring up some of this for two reasons. One is that it was such a comfort to me to read the stories of parents who have their children early who had premature babies and everything was okay. So I want to say aloud that this happened to us, and at least so far. Thank God, it has been. Okay. But also because I'll be off the podcast while I've been on paternity leave for a week. Now ahead, the Kelton and Furman and Sullivan episodes recorded before this happened, and I'll be off until about the beginning of April. And I've got great guests. We're going to be on the show. I've got and they've got some great interviews lined up, which I'm actually very excited to listen to and we're gonna put up a bunch of favorite episodes of mine. So they'll still be podcasts coming out every Monday and Thursday, but they will not beat new podcast by me because I'll be doing something that I have never done before which is being a father. So thank you for being here. And thank you to my first guest host. Jane Costa who is interviewing Noah Rothman. Hello. I am Jane Costa. And senior politics reporter for vox with a focus on the GOP conservatism and something that I have been interested in is the ongoing conversation about quote, unquote, idendity, politics and social justices taking place among conservatives and on the right? It's a conversation that has a lot of different pieces. It's a conversation that is deeply tied to contemporary politics. And moreover, a view of many on the right that the left is using quote, unquote, identity politics cudgel against the right and some of the right are responding by embracing their own version of identity politics, and we're seeing that kind of indie formation of the identity in right so to speak. So to talk about all of this. I thought no one would be better than Noah Rothman, who's an editor at commentary magazine and MSNBC contributor and author of unjust, social Justice and the unmaking of America, which was released just a couple of weeks ago. And during our conversation, we talk about identity and identity politics, the history of identity, politics, so identity politics and race and racism have worked concurrently and concorded Lii. And I think it was a really interesting engage in conversation as always you can reach us via Email at as recline show at vox media dot com. Once again that is is reclaimed show at vox media dot com. And here is Noah Rothman, Noah, Rothman, welcome to the podcast are you for having me on grade? So I I would like to start by noting that we have spoken about this book before. And in fact, I am actually referenced in the acknowledgements full disclosure. Yes. Yes. So I wanted to go back and talk about the chapter that I reviewed do your do you? Remember a conversation from November twenty seventeen it was thousand years ago. There was on Email. So I'm sure abra trail serious. Yes. So one of the things that we talked about. And I think that is something that has come across in conversations. We've had about the book and the conversations you've been having about this book, more generally. And I'll read you my Email. It was on a specific chapter in the book truths entrance. Russians going to get you my thoughts tonight right now. My thoughts are that. It seems more boilerplate unless thought the modern social Justice movement is infested with cultural revenge is who obsess over restoring what they that which they perceived to have been lost. And I asked what was lost? What did say black trans women have in the nineteen sixties to which they're clutching desperately? And then I also put it out a use had said something about real forgotten America. And I said you're way better than this. What do you mean by forgotten America, which one is that where is that? And I think in the conversations that you've been having about this book, and you've been having conversations on MSNBC and in a lot of conservative podcasts because I know you were on. On Ben Dominic's show over at the federalist you I feel as if there's a fundamental difference in a fundamental divide. That's taking place right now in reactions to your book, and I think it has to do with not just your book, but the entire conversation of quote, unquote, identity, politics and the social Justice movement in general, so I wanted to start with why did you write this book? And for whom did you write this book? We'll just briefly address some of the stuff that you talked about their forgotten America as it were as something rather disdainful of it is notion that is appealed to by individuals on the far right and the far left to justify a grievance politics. The notion that they have had something robbed from them. And that they must appeal to a strong hand in order to restore it. It's a paralyzing construct one that isn't based in reality and justifies a program that I think is actually detrimental to the social fabric. Why I wrote this book, and basically the idea for it came to me because it's a lot of conservative bloggers are hostile towards quote, unquote, identity politics, which is. Catchall broad catchall contains multitudes of terms. But generally is that it does incompatible and a lot of ways within a gala -tarian ideal to which America expires aspirated sentiment that may not necessarily be achieved, but it is worthy aspiration than the less. And when I was in Ukraine, monster junket, I was there, but the imitation of government pro western government retreated to eight conversation with the chief prosecutor, and he was explaining to us rather pointedly why it was not in their interest. And then certainly not in your interest to prosecute individuals who are implicated in violence in the my Don revolution on their side. And why would you want us to the are on our side? This is no kind of Justice that I'm familiar with. This looked a lot more like revenge and tribalism, and it struck me that this was pretty much identity politics in practice and alternate theory of governing organization societal organization that has conflictual in many ways with the notion of objective. Individualized Justice that we see practice in a courtroom. And that's where the social. Justice phenomenon sort of came to me as more looking like, an identity, politics and practice that is antithetical in many ways to the conduct of Justice as we understand it today a much more collectivized tribalize vision of Justice. And I think it's a dangerous philosophy when I hope to combat just to make sure that we're all talking on the same terms when you say the term identity politics. What do you mean? Let means just about everything, right? I mean class race demography accidents birth individualized, and a collectivized of self expression, and as duck about in the book this book is not an attack on self actualization or racial awareness to argue from that position would be to argue ignorance, and I don't argue that this is about a a governing philosophy the notion that you can apply entity politics in practice and create in out of it that resents individuality and meritocracy that the notion that you're accidents. Birthplace you want? A course in life. That has many ways predestined that individual age. Is a lie and from that springs a lot of notions that I think are quite dangerous like the idea that demographic separatism is good explicitly in order to prevent social discomfort and that color blindness in institutions is naive at best and dangerous at worst. And to me these are obstacles on the pathway to addressing real discrimination institutional prejudice, which personal which exists. This book is not an effort to litigate legitimate grievances. It's an effort to litigate illegitimate efforts to re to address historical grievances. The cure for the ills of bigotry is not more bigotry, and that is what so many social Justice advocates on the right and the left prescribe. So who for whom is this book intended, because I know that this is, you know, I read about conservatism, and the use of the term identity politics is something that has come up specifically among conservatives over the last couple of years, and I think that that that has done two things one it has inherently racialist that term. And I thought it was interesting that in in your discussion just now you use. You mentioned class. And there was a discussion between a Heritage Foundation fellow Tucker Carlson talking about how identity politics is bad. And that class-based organizing should be the future of the left, which I thought was an interesting argument for many, different reasons. But it's also interesting how the idea of identity politics as being separate from class that I think that that's been something that Bernie Sanders has talked about the idea that you if we had a class based argument that would include everyone, and that what is good for African American workers is also good for white workers. And you actually see that a little bit in a Jesse Jackson's Nitra native four presidential campaign going back a little bit where he talks about how, you know, white farmers and black men living in urban environments are dealing with similar things doing with similar struggles. You know, we're all struggling. So I believe the quote is we're all kin. So what did you include class as kind of a gatherer in within identity politics because identity politics is part of the human condition, if you were to say as as individual tribal affiliation goes, I mean, that's just something that's ingrained in the human mind that goes back to the original survival instincts. And it's probably something that was an evolutionary trait that helped us servive to argue against it entity politics in all forms is to argue against the tide your that's not achievable the the notion that class I should replace identity in general race. Demographic traits have was the Marquis ideal and it's been somewhat MS not replaced, but I guess subsumed in a new MARCY ideal, which is the notion that is at the heart of the the the theory of intersection -ality that all conflict disparate or otherwise stems from one individual source in that is race demographic traits identity, originally in Marxist notion, it was class. Is the is the originator of all conflict, and as as a way to unite disparate grievance politics into one movement, it's useful. But as we've seen with the women's March, it has a tendency to tear, these these organizations that use it as an organising principle apart because it prescribes seeing your allies on this on your side as sort of a degree to when Doreen another as also presser because they have benefited in some degree or another from some historical privilege with thing know it or not there's nobody who is going to be in the room. Who is it was the perfect intersectional of victim. Everybody shares some traits or another that are perceived as historically beneficial or otherwise. And that's part of the reason why the women's March movement embrace these people with no constituency whatsoever because to abandon them would be till legitimize the prejudices against which they claim to be struggling like for example, convicted cop killer Asada core who's living as a fugitive from Justice in Cuba or the minister, Louis Farrakhan. They're there. Constituencies are so small that it would have been than official to dissociate but intersection has rendered the the sister soldier movement. Obsolete. You can't do that anymore because you are abandoning a fellow member of this cause and it's counterproductive. So I wanna push back on you a little bit because I I actually met with a doctor Kimberly Crenshaw a couple of weeks ago in New York or she was at Columbia University at Columbia law school, and she is credited with if not necessarily inventing the concept of intersection Allie of kind of public publicizing it and her nineteen Eighty-nine paper. She was she, and we had a long conversation about this which will some day turned into a piece she was talking about specific examples of how for example in say the nitrous century, south white women were protected from rape. Black women were believed to be unable to be raped because they were not in some courtrooms considered to be shape. I know black won't so technically, you could not force a black woman to have sex with you because they were not believed to be chaste and printer also uses the example of Sojourner truth, legendary black feminist who gave the famous speech because her experience of femininity and womanhood was that of being born a slave and having her children taken away from her while she was talking to white feminists whose experience of discrimination was on the basis generally of their sex. They were kept to the separate sphere. They were, you know, there was an understanding that like white women needed to be protected and cherished, but also kept from say writing on trains or appearing in public without a guard in some ways. So when Crenshaw was talking about intersection out as she was talking about how no one is just one thing. And I think that that's something we've noted but. But I think that it's worthwhile considering that she was talking about using intersection out is a prism to think about discrimination in law and thinking about how they're I think in the paper, she references a specific case in which there was no means by which black women who at the who were experiencing both racism and sexism within the workplace could you explain that in a courtroom audience because there were no legal protections on the basis of being black women. And so I want to challenge you on this idea of intersection because I think that it's actually extremely useful way to think about discrimination, more broadly because discrimination happens in a lot of different ways to a lot of different people. And I think to me intersection -ality or thinking of that as a prison, but to think about discrimination is useful. Completely agree. This is in the book explicitly. That as a an academic concept on the way to think about how prejudice manifests in the real world in American particular. It's a perfectly valid notion. And in fact, it's extremely helpful as an organizing principle for a political cause which is a different thing than an economic theory. It has a lot of drawbacks. And we've identified them one of the one of the truths that identify in that chapter on truth that frustrate social Justice activist on the right in the in the left to no end. But which is demonstrable and should be agreed. With is the notion that there has been racial progress in this country over the last fifty years, and I think going back as far as you went. I mean, it's sort of self evident that we have come a little bit further in understanding sort of thing. So when I was talking about this book recently with some people who were pushing back as you are one of my interlocutors was a young woman lesbian graduate from Brown. Recently, steeped intersection -ality, and she described it as something that was self empowering because it was a way for her to think about not just herself. But her peers, and and she applied it to a gay bar. And which she felt empowered in the spaces and how she in thinking about them in their structural way helped her to navigate her life in a way that was self actualising, which is also something that I support. And it struck me that she was really just talking about how she felt more at home in non-sis hetero normative spaces, and that is not exclusionary. They're not segregated. There's just a different way to think about the people in those spaces, and that's distinct from what we are seeing in a lot of ways on campus, which has abandoned some in which is migrating into the real world, which is abandoned the notion that steeping your cell phone in in the in the color, college culture, rather, and the and the thing that you're studying and complementing that with a lifestyle choice around it, that's sort of been abandoned in favor of something that I can't think of calling anything else other than segregation spaces that are exclusive to one demographic or another in order to prevent social discomfort. Quote, unquote, uncomfortable learning that to me is not a productive way in order to advance the kind of dialogue that you. And I are having. I I would I think that when we're talking about segregation. I think that it's worth noting that segregation in general is imposed from above, and you I think that there there are times and spaces for people to you know, to self organize, but I think it's from below. That's an important distinction. Yes. I am interested to know why colleges have become such a center and especially specific colleges because I know you reference the Yale Halloween incident, your f- rinse the university of Missouri. And not just it's interesting. How those have become their specific examples of colleges going too far that have become almost hit you graphic on the right that they're just something you you can reference them while most people in general, perhaps a lot of people listening to this podcast may have gone to Yale. But I. I did not go to Yale and in general most people do not go Yale. And so I understand the importance of I've talked to other conservatives about this that this idea that college campuses are kind of the laboratory for what comes later in kind of in common cultural conversations, but college campuses are also where people are one in college. So they are generally between the ages of eighteen and twenty two which is not as we have learned recently is not always our tiptop time of human development. But also, I feel as if there is a sense while talking about colleges a lot we're getting away from how most people experience these issues that talking about something that happened at Yale or at evergreen state college. Or at the university of Missouri is not talking about college campuses, more broadly. It's not talking about community colleges. But it's also not talking about the experiences of most people, and I think that there is a tendency on the right to extrapolate. This is happening at this small campus that you've never heard of. But this is what the left is doing. So what are your thoughts on the oak? Why is kind of the idea that social Justice Runamuck on college campus? Why is that such a major theme on the right because I thought it was interesting. You also mention later in the book when you talk about, you know, William F Buckley and kind of William Buckley's battle against the John Birch society, you talk about how he in order to get people on his side before he kind of announced he wanted to get rid of the berkshires in some ways, he talked about denigrated popular media, and I feel popular media and college campuses have long been kind of hobbyhorse cudgels among many on the right? And I was interested to kind of get your thoughts. Why the focus on college campuses? So there's a lot on pack. There said a bunch. I. You write that? I think that there is a valid criticism of the right that they overemphasize the the activities on college campuses among students. However, this is not a book on college campuses. It takes take some evidence from what we're seeing percolate on college campuses. But the book demonstrates, I think as much as can be demonstrated that these ideas are migrating into daily life that they are affecting how businesses structure themselves how capitalism operates market forces operate how people interact in their daily life. It has transformed academia, but it was also transforming politics and virtually every aspect of society, it is more paramount, and and more prominent on college campuses among students, but it is exclusive to students were also talking about administrators faculty. So it's not as though this is limited to quote, unquote, kids, we're talking about adults and the phenomenon if we choose to ignore it has migrated off college campuses into our daily life, and in particular, I think that one of. The some of this stuff is pretty heavy in this book fact, most of it, but there's a chapter on there and just of how gullible these ideas make people and how willing to be manipulated by. For example, brands, the social Justice nostrums, are this is not politics large doesn't have anything to do with legislative affairs. It's not about the constitution. It's not really about history. It's about performance of politics, wearing your politics, quite literally on your sleeve in your shoes, in some cases. And that is what led to the phenomenon of what we've seen now as woke capitalism. Cap brands that have embraced cultural grievances, not really politics per se, but they masquerades as politics and people love it on the right and the left they adore it. And I fear is that it's because it it gives you the opportunity to act like you're participating in politics that having to do any of the real homework. So you're engaged in politics by buying a buying a shoe or a particular toothpaste or something like that. Because it's displaying the kind of politics you want to see and the detriment there is evident in. Phenomenon of fearless girl, which we saw the statue down in lower Manhattan that was feted by democratic politicians as a real challenge to the patriarchate Bill de Blasios said that men were really offended by this. It was hard to find them. But he was sure they were very offended by this day. Just relating to be very upset allegedly offended quite a lot of thing. It turns out though, that this this allowed the the sponsor State Street global advisors to his escape a lot of scrutiny that it deserved. If you looked at some of its pamphlets when it was talking about investing to women, for example, it just appealed to Ross stereotypes said that you really shouldn't think too hard or use big worse. Basically, you know, just appeal to emotion when you're talking to female investors, which is a negative stereotype. And eventually we saw after department of labor audit that this firm had been systematically discriminating against female and African American employees settled to the tune of five million dollars. But the statue just the deference that display to social Justice nostrums allowed it to evade the kind of scrutiny that it really deserved from the kind of people who are very attuned to this kind of thing that's manipulation and gullibility. And the people who want to see this kind of change in the world should be aware of the fact that they are being manipulated merely by tugging on the heart strings and invoking social Justice axioms. Today's episode has show is brought to you by the British stream pitcher, the British stream pitcher, it filters instantly as you pour. So you never have to wait for filtered water and one filter replaces up to three hundred single use plastic bottles. You can feel good about using it as well to get great tasting water fast. And you keep hundreds of plastic bottles out of the landfill. So by British stream pitcher today at Amazon, WalMart or target. So I want to back up a little bit because we talked about the idea of identity politics, and there are two points in which you talk about American political history identity politics on page, two thirty two you right? It's not uncommon to hear young social Justice advocates accept as fact the idea the American political history history in general really is just a story of identity politics. But you do make the point earlier on page thirty three that identity politics in America is not new that has always conflicted with the founding ideals of the Republic and the contradictory. Notions of a gala -tarian slavery were baked into America's founding documents. So one could argue that American political history is in some ways, the story of identity politics, because I think that it's been so interesting for me learning more about the founding fathers, how that conflict some of them had to wrangle with it. But at the same time Thomas Jefferson was completely fine with advocating for equality and Justice while also believing that black people don't need as much sleep. And that black people will never come up with good poetry because though they are sexually ardent. They can't understand love. And so I would argue that the history of America is inherently a history of identity politics because very few other countries have attempted to bring together, so many different groups of people, you know, you avoid in some ways politics when you have a society that is made up of largely one identity, and then you start breaking down into kind of what we saw you and your references in book like the centuries of European wars that were largely about people who looked who basically were different kinds of Catholics or different kinds of Protestant. So I would be interested to know if identity politics. It's not new and it's of baked into what America is why is it not? Then the American story in general. Well, it's not the American story in general, obviously, there's there's multiple strains as you say and in that chapter history chapter. So I'm trying to get at how somebody in the early Republic would have seen identity, and they simply would not have seen identity in the way, we see identity. So it was politics. But not that we would recognize, and they would think of it more as sort of Republican virtues and much more ideological even though it had a completely different definition the colonial period. So they would not necessarily view while they were, you know, steeped in politics that wouldn't view it as such because they wouldn't have seen African Americans as an identity or even a race people. And I be Ryan Deepal who descended from the barren peninsula who were populating Central America. You know, they were engaged for example, during the Venezuelan revolution for independence. They were engaged in. As for as historian, kellyn fix Fitzpatrick demonstrated. They're engaged in sort of support for this revolutionary struggle in the revolutionary struggling in and of itself was was demonstration of sort of a higher plane of thought among certain factions in the in the early American post, colonial period, but the identity aspect of that was more anti-catholicism like the the people who were frustrated by that and didn't trust the the Venezuelan revolutions just really thought that Catholicism was incompatible with republicanism. So it was less about identity as we see today's Kim tone and demographic traits and much more about religions, you say density, but a different conception of it. So it's modern social Justice advocates have a real problem with the notion of the American founding ideal because the American founding ideal this pure, -tarian ISM has never been realized. I said that you've misunderstood the word ideal ideal is something to which you aspire. It's an aspiration it's not something you will ever achieve. It is merely something to which you should aspire towards. And that doesn't because you fail to achieve it that doesn't render the ideal bad or wrong or failed. It simply means that we are human beings. And we were imperfect practitioners of of the political arts. I think that when Stacey Abrams wrote about identity politics for foreign affairs. And she said that identity politics. It was not something that minority groups chose. It was something that was gonna foisted upon them. And you talked about this a little bit in the book when you talk about the civil rights movement. I was intrigued because I think that a lot of the pushback you've been getting is that calls to for one thing. People have been doing identity politics, not even just in law or in how Americans have actually lived, but in political campaigns since time immemorial that identity politics specifically appealing. Two white identity. Politics has been something that people have been doing, you know, both Democrats and Republicans for half a century. You know, you want? Yes. But I was mostly referring to you know, before the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four which is the primordial form of entity politics. Exactly, exactly. And I think that there is a strain of kind of reaction to your book that or when conservatives talk about identity politics at all that identity. Politics becomes a problem or objectionable when non white people are doing it. And I think that that's something that I've spoken with a lot of conservatives about who obviously disagree with that. But I'd be interested to get your take. Because when you see someone like Mark Lilla or others who are you holding up say Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton is examples of presidents who looked past identity when you look ahead Clinton support of say that particular brand of welfare reform or kind of the toughness of the war on drugs kind of war on crime. So to speak, you see an identity politics element to that. And how that was pitched to white audiences as opposed to non white audiences. So I would be interested to hear your response to kind of it seems to think a lot of people that conservative concerns about identity. Politics are conservative concerns about non white people thinking and talking about identity instead of aspiring to a version of color blindness. That somewhat argue renders what is interesting in different. The patchwork of America renders that moot. I think are pending with a broader brush than his fair to be honest conservatives improperly understood, I think rejects the kind of exacerbating of differences, along identity lines that the the right does and in general, the broader, right, which isn't necessarily conservative as you know. And this. Is an argument. This book is an argument favor of consistency. It's rather versus in that sense that if you're a conservative who thinks you're picking up a red meat book, and you're inclined to support some of the the the ideas about identity that are embraced by folks. Like Tucker Carlson on Fox News, and you're going to be very disappointed because this is an argument against a lot of that stuff identity. Politics is conservatives have always known as a very powerful organizing force, especially the brand of it that preaches victimization, the notion that you are not in command of your own destiny. And that there are forces at work that are ill defined in an omnipotent unseen that have taken from you that which should be restored. That's a powerful organizing tool and in Republicans in the age of Trump has discovered its power, and the the effect that it can have on the electorate, I think this is an extremely dangerous point of view and just because we rail against it on the left doesn't mean we should adopt a brand of it for itself. So this is a look in the mirror the extent to which the Republican right not necessarily the conservative. Right. Although some are tempted. It have embraced these ideas. I think they're dangerous, and this is an effort to call that what it is. So can you explain a little bit more? You make the point that that grievance culture is philosophically alien to conservatism, but it is not alien to conservatives. Can you talk a little bit about that difference? Because I think that that is something I've been reading a lot about conservative populism thinking a lot about conservative populism talking pretty much anyone who will listen about conservative populism. It's the wave of the future. It's everything's going. I think I you know, I want to explain a little bit more. Have you explain a little bit more that conservatism and people who think of themselves being conservative often, hold very different positions on specific issues. And I think this is one of them, and you saw this a little bit during the Trump campaign that part of the Trump pitch was more or less than implicit argument for a welfare state for white people. And that this would be. The time to kind of settle grievances that some white voters had with black lives matter or this idea that an African American president somehow made whiteness secondary in some sense. And so I'm interested because you make this important point about conservatism. But can you talk a little bit about that difference between kind of conservatism and conservatives because while it's again to conservatism, you're seeing more and more people who think of themselves as being conservatives, and who think of themselves very much on the right really leaning into this kind of identity driven argument. Well, I mean, I think we risk overstating than the level of how implicit these contentions were Donald Trump ticks of Chen in this book for failing to properly condemn racism when he was presented with pretty easy opportunity to do. So and therefore justified in legitimized some. Pretty ugly elements that came to the fore as a result thinking that they're noxious ideology wasn't as a marginal. As they had previously believed it to be and he deserves castigation for that. However, if we are talking about rallying behind identity as opposed to the allergy then you're going to have to indict literally every political movement that is symbols of fifty plus one coalition in one sense or another as racist. And I'm not prepared to do that. And I don't think that's true. The voters who rallied to Donald Trump who perceive themselves to be members of his coalition share a lot of disparate traits. And I don't think any of them would would necessarily say are all of them would necessarily say they are risk or even are unconsciously receptive to racialist arguments. And I think the left sees a lot of racialist arguments, in broader terms in uncharitable fashion, and a lot of ways they can have a tendency to over inflate those arguments, and especially when we're prevent presented with somebody like Donald Trump who is so. Explicit that we don't have to divine his intention in a lot of ways. We don't have to go through dog whistles the dog whistles have been subsumed into a much broader call to action. And so if you're talking about, for example, if you're if you're painting, the brush tunnel Trump's winning coalition of voters, for example, many of whom were previously democratic voters dented in class terms and a divining in their consciousness, some kind of latent racism that to me is prese crafts mysticism. And I think it's it alienates members of the of the American political class voting class who you need in order to form a governing coalition and a lot of and this is again, not an argument for ignorance, I think we only have a conversation and identify some of the ways in which perhaps we haven't thought about the ways that we think as being racialist, and that's the only way to do that is by having a dialogue. But I do think the left goes a little too far often explicitly. Saying that the entire coalition of Trump voters, many of whom share a lot of disparate particularly socio economic traits. Our members are energized by racial animus than argue in the book for this is not fair and not true. So I'm at that point in the book, and you talk about the Trump campaign evidence that white racism remains a potent cultural force, but the Trump presidency has shown it is not a dominant cultural force. Can you explain that a little bit because I think you make the point about how you know the courts have checked the Trump administration and the Justice department is still somewhat going against negative discrimination. But I would argue that people have been extremely angry at the courts for attempting to say, stop the, quote, unquote, Muslim ban and Edson that there is potency still matters, obviously, yo- dominance is different term. But I'd be interested to hear you talk about that. Because I think that