5 Burst results for "Joe Inglis"
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"joe inglis" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"What do you guys think of them kind of committing to this build for seemingly another year? The Lonzo Ball injury, I think, is really hurt them. We don't really talk about that enough, but anyone have any strong opinions on the bulls. They weren't going to, they have no reason to lose, right? Because that pickles Orlando. So they didn't have to tear this whole thing down. I did think there'd be a market though for Caruso, like Caruso has two years left in his contract. It's very manageable money around $18 million combined, I thought they could probably get a first round pick in exchange for or 12 seconds. That's the new one. I just like, you know, I don't know what Chicago's endgame is. Like, Lonzo Ball's got one of those injuries. We start to think like, is this career ending? Because they don't even know what's wrong with him. Yep. He's in a weird position. It's like, he hasn't walked up the stairs and boosted is doing what vucevic does, which is play well in his contract year. So I don't know if I give him money this off season. They're staving off what feels like the inevitable, which is a rebuild coming to this team and in a market like this where you could probably have gotten something for Caruso. I probably would have pulled the trigger on something like that. Yeah. It made way more sense for them to do. I completely agree with Chris from the standpoint of. Yeah, bottoming out completely might not be the move because you can't benefit from it with your own pick, go get somebody else's picks then. Because you've got several guys on this roster, I would say, certainly Levine, which was the name that started to float around. I would say with an hour or two left in the trade deadline a lot. It did never sound like they were realistically shopping Derozan, but if they had made that known that they wanted to do that, teams would have had an interest. And then that's not even mentioning Caruso who has a great value contract. And other guys like javonte green that, you know, guys that can help just 6 and 7 guys on a roster that could help any contending team. They've got a number of guys like that on this team. And they don't have their own pick to use. They're kind of seem like the exact sort of team that should be trying to catch some of this in. It just doesn't make sense to me. And really, I feel like there was one week during the season where everybody in mass was saying, trade your guys, they were on a losing streak, they'd lost four or 5 in a row. And then they won three or four in a row, and it gave them seemingly just enough confidence to kind of stave off that conversation a little bit more, but them and the raptors have basically been in the same spot all year. That's why it was so surprising to see them do nothing. The one distinction I'll make, though, is this. And I'll just say this too. As someone who obviously is not a fan of any team, no emotional investment in any team, as a neutral observer, the most frustrating thing is watching teams that just don't seem to have any particular vision or at least not a vision that actually makes any sense, right? There's only more frustrating than watching a team that keeps trying to do the same thing and is satisfied to be on the treadmill of mediocrity, right? The wizards are incredibly frustrating. The bulls are now in that category of just, I don't care whether you win or lose. It doesn't matter to me, but what are you doing? I don't get it. The Toronto raptors at least. Here's the distinction. The raptors have upside. Their guys are younger and more promising, and if Scotty Barnes makes a leap, they're in business because the rest of those guys are all pretty good. Wherever they go with it. But the bulls, that team's already maxed out. Yeah. And demar Derozan's older. And Zach lavine's flaws aren't changing any time soon. And I didn't really like the deal for vucci in the first place. He's not changing any time soon, but all of those guys individually have value to someone else. Right, exactly. And yeah, so like if there was ever a time to hit the plunger, this would be to do. This would be the time to do it. On the subject of the pick real quick, yeah, they owe the magic because of the votes trade. They do the magic they're picked this season. This June. But it's top four protected. Now, they'd have to do, they'd have to do a tremendous tanking job to end up with a top four pick. But remember, the lottery ads are a little flatter and teams have been jumping from 8th or 9th or wherever to top four. There's at least a chance if you do decide to tank that maybe you keep your pick. It may end up top four and you keep it. Not a bad outcome. You're probably losing it anyway. So losing more games and then ending up with like the 6th pick and losing it. All right, whatever, you were gonna lose the pick anyway, but losing more games right now by dismantling the roster would at least have given you a fighting chance of getting a top four pick that you then keep because of the protections. This path doesn't have any upside. So that's the problem. Yeah, I think we're on the same page there. We lost Chris mannix, by the way, who had to run for the end of this podcast. Just want to let people know in case they're wondering why we've iced him out. And just banning him. Rohan was controlling the call. Like I say from the 92 Dream Team, I said it's not gonna work. If mannix is on the spot, we're almost done here, but I want to bring up one team who we have not talked about over the course of the 90 minutes on these two podcasts. And I'm kind of sneakily falling in love with them. The Milwaukee Bucks at Jay Crowder in one of those take every second round pick we have trades. Looking on comparing their team from last year's playoffs to this one, when they didn't have Chris Middleton, they presumably will now go into the playoffs with a healthy Chris Middleton. Joe inglis, who I think has had some nice moments for them, looks pretty spry coming off his ACL injury. Jay Crowder, who I think people have been so quick to say that he's not a great three and D player that I think he's, I wouldn't say he's become underrated, but slightly underappreciated. I know people are like, he wasn't good for the suns last year. I think he's still a very underrated team defender and can help them in a lot of ways. Gives them some lineup flexibility. Are the sons kind of sneaky winners here? The bush. The bucks, yes, sorry, the bucks. I like the Crowder move for them. I mean, it's weird because I feel like we're always on the sliding scale of how much your second round picks worth. And so does see teams dealing with 5 of them for a J Crowder or in that wiseman deal as it relates to Gary Payton and everything. Look, you're not really, if you're the bucks, you're probably not taking on the salary. It takes to go use those picks anyway. You could use somebody like that. If you look at their team this year, up and down their roster, one Bobby portis has been hurt, and I think they've taken a little bit of a hit from their bench because of that. But really up and down their roster, their starters have all shot between 37 and 40% from three. Their bench is underperformed. Everybody on their bench basically has been shooting below average from three, including port is, I think. So in light of that, going to go get a Jay Crowder who can maybe give you some production if he's even just shooting his averages from three, which have always been basically just average or slightly below. He gives you a defensive presence. I laughed when I saw shops. I think say that he was like a cultural fit for this team because I immediately thought, yeah, he has the same tendency to annoy opponents just like Grayson Allen does. But he actually does seem like he fits a team like this. He is a very good kind of PJ Tucker ish sort of player, not completely because PJ Tucker will play 5 for you. I don't really think that's Jay Crowder's role. But I do think that he could potentially fit this team. I'll be honest and saying, I was a little bit stunned that he went this far into the season without getting picked up by somebody. So I think it's a perfectly fine move for the books. Yeah, I mean, fine is the word I would use, right? Like, okay, yeah, nice move. It doesn't blow me away. It's fine. He hasn't played in a very long time. So we don't really know what kind of condition he's in or basketball condition he's in. He was not great in the playoffs last year. His three point percentage has slipped a little and in the playoffs last year was bad. He shot 30%
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"joe inglis" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"So Chris, what do you make of their offensive struggles? Are you willing to chalk it up to, hey, they need their guys back or are you now in a position where you're maybe worried about Milwaukee? So I'm going to put a lot of it on just they have the 5th worst offense in the NBA. Right. So you mentioned before those Tom thibodeau bowls, which I always thought that they were really interesting from the standpoint of they obviously played a lot of time without Derek rose. And they held their own, you know, largely because of what you pointed out, they played their best players long minutes, even when rose was out, which was risky given that rose might have gotten hurt for that same reason. Anyway, you know, they could hold the fort for just long enough, but then I've always wondered, and there's not really a way to determine it definitively. But I've always wondered if when a team goes without a guy for so long, then they finally get that guy back and then they're right back out of the lineup again because they get hurt or because they like physically aren't right. I've always wondered if that kind of like it would be like if you ran a marathon, you get to the finish line and then when you get through the finish line, I actually got another four miles coming around. Like that has to be just kind of like, God, you know, I'm tired, I'm exhausted. And I think the bucks have enough defense to stay competitive and win a lot of these games. But one, Giannis can't play every minute because butt is not going to butt is not going to be Jason Kidd here and play his superstar 8 million minutes. If anything, we've seen the opposite in the playoffs before where he's subbing on us out with like two minutes left in a game to get him a breather. But I just wonder on some level are the guys exhausted from trying to hold down the fort for so long with that Middleton. Also Middleton is like the most traditional star have, really. Right. Where I just kind of feel like creating Giannis is capable of doing it obviously is a great passer, but he's got deficiencies that make Middleton the more dangerous player of the two. In certain moments, which is why that's stupid thing a playoff run or two ago where we were like, you know, Batman and Robin, but honest is Robin. You remember, so but if you have to have those conversations, there's obviously some truth to it that Middleton is just the guy that he's more of a mid range threat. You know, he's more of a three level scorer than Giannis. So I think that that takes a toll. I mean, if you look at it just on a base level, the role guys, a lot of the bench players have just not shot well this year. Bobby portis has had a perfectly fine year, but he's shot 32% from three. Pat Connaughton normally a very good three point shooter, one of the ones they rely on the most as a role guy shooting 31% George Hill 31%. Joe inglis, who's new to the rotation, but like his playing 20 minutes a game, 31%. So Wes Matthews 31%.
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"joe inglis" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"We have another signing. Chris, this one is going to just, it's going to frazzle your brain. Robin Lopez has agreed to a one year deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers. And that is not a team that I expected to be interested in Robin Lopez. Shout out to Robin Lopez for staying in the league. He's awesome. It's always fun having him around. Yeah, the Cavs. I did not anticipate them being in the business of wanting to get another center. A low post center. But you're not scoring on the inside against this team, I guess, is what's happening. So shout out to them for that. I have another team that I want to throw at you real quick before we go. Don't know if they're a winner. I don't know if they're a loser. I have no idea how to assess their off season. And frankly, if I were a fan of this team, I would be a little disappointed. And that team is the Milwaukee Bucks. Okay. Interesting. I'm not going to say that they've messed up. None of that. But just like bringing everyone back basically, right? And adding Joe inglis, I saw that with the mid level that they had access to, I believe. Someone that you're definitively not going to have for probably what the at least the first half of the season I would think. Yeah, that's a really interesting one. Just what were your thoughts about the bucks and I guess in activity? Yeah. Or just throwing the text payer mid level at Joe ingles when you're trying to win a championship again. A day one signing which I get it, if you're completely completely convinced he's back healthy, that's the sort of thing that there's a couple of things. I wrote the piece for us. I think every team that was in the playoffs once they got knocked out, we kind of did a post mortem on. At SI, I was responsible for doing the one in the box. And it was interesting because on the one hand, you have to pick out their flaws on the other, you're keeping in the front of your mind like they did not have Chris Middleton in a 7 game series against the team that ended up representing the east and the finals. So it's like they weren't that far away. They could have won the whole thing this year. They could have at least won the east. It's pretty easy to see how they could have won the east. Had they simply been healthy. That said, they're largely running this back plus Joe ingles, which is an interesting concept. Like engels could be great for you if he's healthy. He is getting older. So he's not, he's never been like a really athletic player.
Celtics Beat
"joe inglis" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"I think there's an argument that could be made that, you know, someone that isn't like amazing defensively, but it's a little bit taller and a little bit longer. I find that's okay. I don't know if Duncan Robinson is the guy, specifically because I don't know where his coffins is at. After watching him that last series against Miami was like, man, what? I mean, they weren't even playing him unless they were desperate. And it was like, all right, let's see if Duncan's got anything right now. And when Tyler hero wasn't playing, you know, it was like, let's see if he can recreate a little bit of the hero magic, but he just couldn't do it. So it's like one of those things where ideally like if that person wasn't great defensively, but was either a and knock down shooter or B a good one on one scores slash creator. I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of defense to help out the Jays either, get a breather and they can control the offense for a little bit, or B, make life easier for the J's when they're on the floor at the same time because the spacing will be better and the attention can't solely be driven towards a J so I get the point of that, but I think there should be just a little pushback on that because not everybody's going to be an all world defender. This team is loaded with them. It's amazing how they be able to build this team. So I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit defense to get something else. But I would say if they can't create the half court and they're not knocked down shooters, then yeah, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of less like they were on some all world defensive player. Yeah, I need my guy to be a representative on defense. I mean, I think I do stuff knowing. I think he agrees. I mean, it's okay if not all world. I mean, I am so out and Duncan Robinson. I can't even tell you. I want no part of him and it's not just for his competence issues because I think that the potentially have a mini Duncan Robinson on the rothstein already and same houser. I'd rather the same housing gets a run, honestly. I'm fine with that. I know it's not the same guy, but he's a reasonable facsimile if he could get some minutes and get some confidence. I want no part like a ramen. I mean, his defense aside, but yeah, I think like a Norman Powell, something like that. Somebody who we actually plays defense and can also shoot. I'm much more interested in one of those guys. It's an interesting question of how big a guy has to be or how not bad at defense. A guy I keep thinking about is Joe ingles. Joe inglis isn't like a great one on one defender, but he's like a pretty smart team defender. I think if a guy knows how to play good team defense, they can fit on this Celtics team, like with all the switching and the fact that Robert Williams is like a free cooking cover insane amounts of ground..
Wendell's World & Sports
"joe inglis" Discussed on Wendell's World & Sports
"You know once the game starting everything to serious he's to be Pretty good to be ready to go and the team also played a first grade game. Without the course devon booker through holiday khris middleton. Who last time. A jack were playing. There's something called the nba finals. So they won't be around for a for a couple for for a couple of minutes. As i mentioned before to snap a two game losing streak engaged against nigeria and australia. Should we be losing games of any kind to nigeria debatable. Man the bailable. All australia's a good team australia bill. Before an exhibition game last time. That coach popovich was coaching a international team. Now that team didn't have kevin durant damian lillard bradley beal others that team had Kimball walker and a couple of others. But joe harrison a couple of others but i mean australia's a team. You gotta remember patty mills. Joe inglis aron baynes. They've all played nba basketball. They've all been fixtures in the nba. Joey was scared and nobody dependency scared. Patty mills will an nba championship. Point with the san antonio spurs. Joing was important player for the best team record wise in the nba. This past season showing was ain't gonna be in awe of kevin durant damian. Lillard plays against those guys years after years. Just speaking about lillard other player from the western conference plays against those guys anywhere between three to six times a year. He's not going to be like. Wow i'm playing against the united states Wow we the nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety-six the influx of foreign talents coming into this country and coming to the nba and if done well in the nba as scared of us the that aura that the you say team had and these players had where yeah i was like. Oh wow we could plan against. Michael jordan larry. Bird magic johnson. Patrick ewing david robinson. Scottie pippen wow amazing. Always see those guys play on in highlights in this danielle in nineteen ninety. Two minutes minutes sky in. Give a shit about us anymore. Yeah i mean would. Would it be disrespectful with a shameful. Would he be villain number one. If joe ingles came in there was like caring. Durant will bitch right player. He's a little bit. You know we we can take him. We can kind of deal with him. Daimler do ship on my mother. Fucker convenient thirteen denver. For god's sakes he's scared of him but he ain't going to be doing ship for me bradley beal who get the fuck. You know what i mean. Would you blame. Joe ingles in these other guys were played in the league for years from these other teams. I mean that used to be.