12 Burst results for "Joe Haines"
The Red Box Politics Podcast
"joe haines" Discussed on The Red Box Politics Podcast
"That it would be very difficult to get the same amount to access whistle-stop toll of the dirty dozen subject. What caught at this well. Prime minister's you covered starting with howard mcmillan Of his extraordinary to to me. Remember in nineteen fifty nine. When i went up talks with the freshman's for it was the day after the nine fifty nine general election and there were all these young tories exulting in the fact that how mcmillan had won a majority of one hundred and there was the poor old labor party and they had their first meeting. That was happening that weekend which is called labor psychologically happier in opposition then a week later. Prime minister helmet mellon came up and told to the oxford union. And he did the. He's extrordinary thing where he talked about what it was like. Fighting the battle of the the first world war where off his whole class at baillio at the end of the war of twenty of them he was the only one who survived and the vote tears to my little. Did i know ten years time. I would be married to his granddaughter so i got two million quite well and talked to him about television and what it was like appearing on television. And he's he said for people of my. It's so difficult because you're used to going and making these big speeches and there's an audience and a crowd barracking dot com whereas when you're on television it's like playing tennis. No ever comes back to you. As how will wilson and he was someone who completely got the idea of spin imagery and people might think is new inventions. Our new labour. David cameron thing but his entire sort of folksy beach was basically a bit fake. Or is it a bit yeah. He smoked a pipe pond. Television goes away from the camera. I'm gerald kaufman. Who was his press secretary camera labor. Mp said that he had first met howard wilson in nineteen forty eight and he said our wasn't after that taught himself a sense of humor. He was the most boring speak. I had ever and wilson was very good with equips and the good good lines. How wilson sore himself. As britain's john cheryl kennedy jfk great loving for for president. Kennedy and wilson arranged for videos of kennedy's press conferences. Which were kennedy was a master of a political. Would at the press conference. I'm wilson studied these Press cops and was very good himself at behaving a bit. Like president kennedy. I have to say the most extraordinary story for me in the book is about our wilson if people think infighting number ten is bad these days the plots to get rid of marcy williams is one of the most extraordinary stories of all. They're not call the spin-doctors she. She knew more about image making than almost anyone. I never met and she understood exactly how to try. And get wilson at properly over on television when came back to power in nineteen seventy four two of his chief. Aides were rather jealous of marcy williams. Hold over harold wilson one day. Wilson's private doctor. Dr joe's stone said marcy is a very bad influence on wilson. He he's not as good as he should be because he's ruled by marcy williams. I get rid of her on her daughter. I could prescribe some pills. And then i can feel do the destitute so he was. It was wilson's private doctor trying to get wilson's two other top advisors to go along with it with a plot by the done in st joe haines. The press secretary was ridiculous the headlines the headlines well most extraordinaire reminded that bitter in-fighting number. Ted is not necessarily a new usa. What about. Jim callaghan places. Howard wilson in number ten dim. Kelly was was interesting characters as prime minister. I'd had a run in with him very early on in the early nineteen seventy s. Before he was prime minister. I wanted him to come on the program and he decided not to and he said that he would arrange his deputy to come on. He was up on secretary. And i said well. That's very kind of you to arrange that. But i need to be able to choose. Who just it's your right to to Declined to come on. And he sydney said this the cohort. I think you understand. I know some pretty important people in the bbc. And if you don't have my deputy then career. Pbc what go very far since kind of hand threatening and some years later. When i was making a film about callahan is asked him about his bullying and he said. But i never bully. Who's not my own equal. I sit hang on you. Prime minister was a political reporter producer. And he said yes but you went to university. didn't you. And he never forgot that he left school at sixteen and never went to university in always thought that there were people who had gone to university especially to oxford who look down on him and then i was the callahan gives white ted heath at reading art my senses of all the promises. He was the one who found trickiest to deal. Teddy world probably the most tricky prime minister. I had to do with this extraordinary way of trying to destabilise you before you even started the interview. I remember he once said to me. You got the usual list of boring questions afraid. So and at the end of it. I felt the interviewer gone rather better than than i expected. I said did you think it was boring as infinitely more irrelevant today. Yeah he just a very tricky tricky counter in contrast to barbara thatcher who my sentences. Your interactions with margaret thatcher. They bought it on flirting at times. Who mrs thatcher was an own mix often when you would go into number ten to do interview. Mr cockrel come to you and what. A lovely tie is quote intimidated to such as their since holding. You're already. She's a great deal less popular than.
Behind the Steel Curtain
"joe haines" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"Look outstanding throughout training camp and the preseason and know what tj walk into the inside linebackers steals are greatly improved in the middle of their defense. What was probably the weakest point for the steelers. All of last season that inside linebackers against the buffalo bills. When i believe is ulysses gilbert the third marcus allen where the steeler starters In in the middle of the defense there and the bills really pick them apart now. The steelers have devon bushing. Joe schubert starting off this game. This is going to be an entirely different over the middle much. Better group The steelers have in this game. Then they did a year ago against buffalo. Of course the cornerback spot. The brand new corner kilo witherspoon. Not sure if he's going to start right away on the edge or how the steelers plan on kind of rotating it but factor matters. Joe haines going to be in the lineup Witherspoon of course is now on the team. James peers healthy cam. Sutton steals have got some guys at corner. Are they as good as last year. Oh of course not. They lost even nelson and mike hilton but still got some dudes at the corner spot and then it safety. Mika fitzpatrick trail admins. And then they're backed up by what carl joseph now. Which is a definite upgrade over. Sean davis and that's kind of reserve type role and then trae norwood behind of its patrick. Which i guess jordan dangerfield would have been his backup so the steelers are definitely looking good especially depth twice on the defensive side of the football so not only. Is this team better coach. But i honestly believe they have better talent. So i'm i'm pretty darn excited for this for this game for those two reasons alone and we'll break things down a little bit further in the second half of the show and try to look at the other side of the coin but for right now the pittsburgh steelers your training in a very nice direction as they prep for the game. The buffalo bills more live mike action will.
Behind the Steel Curtain
"joe haines" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"You're probably going to see him in a couple of films. I can't do all the film rooms about cam hayward so you won't see every week. But if you want to hear more about cam hayward check out my twitter check out here. We're talking about cam hayward this season. Because he is phenomenal. Is one of the best defensive lineman in the league. He's an all time great. He's a future hall of famer. And he's one of the best defensive lineman to play for the pittsburgh steelers that's cam hayward anyways behind cam hayward again this time to it didn't play. We saw came here and tyson hollywood. The starting the third defensive lineman was chris worldly that's to be expected and he played good. He's not having a good preseason. Chris warmly looks more at home this year. He looks like he he understands with going on. He's he's better with his teammates behind him. Again and raimondo. Behind him again with henry mondo. That's number five. That's your fifth defensive. Lineman when steph onto it returns to the field having one. Does your number five defensive lineman steelers keep six sometimes seven defensive line. I could see it being seven with a seventeen game season but it could also just be six. There's no guarantee there's a seven spot for that number six defensive line spot. The last spot guaranteed to make this roster. You've got isaiah bugs. Carlos davis and isaiah louder milk fighting for that spot man that is a battle to watch in the fourth preseason games because these guys are fighting each other but they're also fighting defensive backs they're fighting buddy. Johnson who's trying to be the number five linebacker inside linebacker. They are fighting those guys just to make the roster that is position to watch in the fourth preseason game isaiah bugs carlos davis isaiah louder milk real quick for the show. Let's get to the defensive backs. Joe haden back. Joe haines out there. Solving problems is another thing i talked about. I'm getting a film room up on this. Those little routes drag routes going to the right quarterback scrambling out to the right. They'd been killing all reason. We've all seen it. Tight ends beating linebackers Slot receivers beating the defensive backs. They're getting out there. They're making these plays had into the right. The quarterback scrambles out to the right and they throw those little passes and they're beaten all sees ultra season. Jonatan shows up. They try to tie. Joe haden nearly took that ball. Joe haden jumped that ralph. Joe hayden is still joe haden. He makes a world of difference on this defense. He is so important. The steelers defense. He is an mvp candidate. Mvp candidate for this defense simply because of the role. He plays in the fact that when he is out it exposes the linebackers. It exposes the the nickel bax. It exposes that entire side of the field. It weakens our run defeats. Everything gets worse. When joe haines don 'field joe hayden looking like himself. Fantastic author back minkah fitzpatrick making patrick plane. And he looked good more than that his partner in crime. Terrell edmonds is his sidekick looked good with mak- fitzpatrick back trail. Edmonds is not a star player. He is a good sidekick and with minka fitzpatrick back. Hey guess what. All edmonds looked good to He's going to be solid for us. The other story. The defensive back room is the nickelback battle which right now is campsite inside inside james. Peer outside that is not ideal. Cameron sutton is not the run stuffer. He is not a blitzer. He is a deep coverage guy. James pierre is vulnerable to speed guys on the outside you are going to see this team struggle a bit if that is all they have at the nickel position we were looking at kind of a rotation maybe with antoine brooks junior and arthur millette. They're both hurt right now. The weakest link on this team right now is the nickel corner and what that is doing to cameron sutton. Who maybe the second week is link in this defense right now is cameras sutton look for the steelers with a little bit of salary. Cap left to be watching. Who might be cut. What teens might be willing to part with who people teams might be willing to move on from at the quarterback position to solidify that spy. That is it. That's the last thing we talk about the day Thank you for tuning in to the cutting room floor..
Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"joe haines" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Figure. I've never i've never. I went to fourteen training camp. I've never had a training camp and was there wasn't at least one fight possibly three four normally give between offers a defensive line. Those are the guys that get into most because those are the guy. That's all hitting at least what i mean you run around you know guy so but you bought sometimes got get the best of you. You like push him but is normally the db especially you running back to coach saying okay. We take it nobody to the ground. And there's somebody do something cheap at four under running back to the ground okay. Don't worry about that's started up. You just witnessed in those remarks a coach on the edge. A coach knows what's coming this. And i think it's a coach who has never bought one hundred percent into derek carr his quarterback and he knows he's got to overcome that and go forward and show real progress and this year they got to get better defensively. I mean they got they got some clouds. Offense was jon. Jacob a pro bowl player waller to tidy in good we have in the league. They got speed it the wide receiver position. I like hundred renfro as a slot. Receiver can take the top off of it. They grew okay. Yeah i'm a fan. But i need to see something issue. Okay no tomorrow. One of the greatest fighters of our generation puts his legacy on the line as many pack. Your battles welterweight world champ. Denison grass in the title fight of the summer live on paper view so by now on the fox. Sports app and that fight is also featured on the free to play fox but super six apps so scan the cure code below. Answer six questions about the fight for your chance to win. One thousand dollars best. The lockdown altered lawsuit that long and guys in the latest poll from ten. Nba execs and scouts. The wizards got a vote for the best move. By trading westbrook while the lakers got to vote for the worst off season by acquiring the guard. Despite this the lakers still got the most votes to win. The west still got two votes to win the title behind the nets who got six the bucks and heat also got a single vote to win it. All shannon. How confident are you in the lakers. Winning it all with westbrook. I think i've said this before. Skip i don't believe it's a natural fit but i believe that after having the conversation that a d. lebron rose had they're going to be willing to sacrifice contrary to what people said. I heard a lot of people say carey. And james harden is not a fit is not going to work and they sacrificed eagles. They sacrifice shot attempts and it worked. I believe this is a very similar situation now. Obviously james harden has a better shooter. The better shooter than rust. But i believe they can make this work. I'm very confident. The nets should be favorites because they play together. Although they haven't played a lot together these guys have never played together. At least they've got nine ten fifteen games up under their bill and so with that being said. I'm competent that work. I'm very confident. They're coming out of the west and my very very confident. We got cases on that right Okay okay you say no you know. This is a enthusiastic as before. Dwight howard is back. I like the bitch. I liked the guy that we got. We have shooters and kendrick. Nunn can shoot the ball. Defense like ellington. I'll like a trevor rees dwight howard. I like with the lake of done. Obviously the wait now. You remember your first point. Lebron lebron james is no longer the best player. Anthony davis didn't even get a top ten rating russell. Westbrook is terrible. So there's a little super team now so we ain't got also where we win gobi spectacular. Glad you wrote about attention. Thank you very much skill. you'll go. I didn't say anything was waiting for you to continue to shoot yourself into the foot where where you don't have much of a foot okay. My turn. I was highly amused when i read in this whole that. That one was this eastern conference executive. He voted for washington's having the move of the year in the off season for getting rid of russell westbrook and i applaud that because it was a sweet move by the wizards and the quote was the eastern conference. Executive says they were trapped now. They have flexibility. Do a fact that they don't have this giant anchor hanging around their heads giant aims. Did they make the playoffs hooded. They make puddle executive. What are the likelihood. That the washington wizards make the playoff without russ because they made the playoffs with russia. So what's the likelihood they make the playoffs out. Russ i think they got a good shot with lady and kuzma and casey ep. Okay also mantras. What about the myths. So you like the math right. You like the books tim or what you think about the The heat you like them in fact. This poll loves him. Because of the cholera calories like a runaway best moves. Do you like you like to halt or you don't like him anymore. What about like you don't like them anymore. I think they're factor. Yeah fails going to do anything. Maybe maybe not. What about the sixers like them. A lot one two three four five six. That's seventeenth right. yeah. I can see washing. The eight seed got it. Okay now. so here's the movie of the year says one eastern conference executive to get rid of russ and now you have to figure out how to play with russ and they're all kinds of quotes in this poem about russell westbrook just saying that. I'm sorry but here's one. This is a western conference scout. Saying look i'm trying to give lebron the benefit of the doubt on this but what they could have done. I just don't see the fit working out over the course of a season. I'm a huge westbrook. France says the western conference scout. I just don't like the fit when we first talked about these speculated move added westbrook you condemned and said not only do you not like the fifth but this is a no go to think about what i prefer buddy. He'll show premiered berta hill around. Lebron james not now shooter can also put the ball of the floor but he's a catch and shoot. The shooter is going to get wide open. Looks like he's never ever seen before. Yes i would like that bit better. But i'm not the one they gotta play with. Russ lebron says we can make this work so we could make stand by what i said. Dinner schreuder was a better fit turned. Eighty four million dollar for million dollars. That's a whole nother story. But dennis shooter is a much better perimeter defender than russell westbrook ever thought about what what about. What about the you. Who told me they'd be better. The balls or the wizards pretty close up in chicago. Get that acu okay. So you're trying to discredit. The wizards was to discredit. But i tell you what's obsolete one of the best moves that nobody's really talking about but we talked about we when it didn't go in great detail. The patty meals padded meals is not gonna mr shot. Joe skipped remember. Joe hairs joe joe. Haines couldn't miss we showing dorothy shot up. Shot up shot. Will he did win. The three point shot he been here gives the.
Behind the Steel Curtain
"joe haines" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"Thirty three in two thousand and eight. He made a pick six to beat dallas. Like this is the kind of player. Joe haden. Ken be is much better players into shea. Townsend ever was right joe. Hayden is like you play them starting quarterback until he can't play that in and then when he can't play that anymore you put him in the slot and there you go. He plays that for a bit and then use done you. You keep him because he can do that. Similar to how hines ward went out in his old age you know like he he can still get it done Joe haden doesn't depend on his speed. He's guy. I only say he has not the old man savvy he knows how to get away with fouling people without getting caught. You will see him hold people and it doesn't look like he's doing anything but you you get a close up and he's got like their jersey like death grip on it. He's holding he's just like no. You're not going there like what the rest like unseating thing. Joe haines do like joe. Haden get it done. He's fantastic leader fantastic guy. Everyone loves him and when he goes and he he needs to. Pittsburgh steelers jersey for people that don't think hayden's hall of famer. I feel like his contract. Extension will probably look for something like three more years. Get him to fifteen years for a corner to be good for that long. Like to think of the great corners of the last twenty years like durell rivas the first one that pops mind what was his. What was his top like four years. He was unbelievable for four years. Richard sherman five and a half maybe when olson done. He'll have fifteen years and from the way he's played. It'll be fifteen solid years that that's one of the reasons why he'll have a shot. Also he's joe. Money for reason This next contract will make him. The highest paid defensive back in the history of football for career earnings. Expect this guy to be making a really debilitating salary cap number. We'll be surprised if you took a pay cut as well. Do you think you'd be making the same amount of money is now. I don't believe he will. I don't actually think he he will. I think i even think with this statement. He's kind of having the steelers bit of leverage on that contract. Say hey i know what you want to retire steeler. You're going to have to do something for us. You know you've made you've made your million dollars. You made your money. Yeah how to be a rookie that year before that That railway cb cba came down. Oh man that must sting for that rookie class the next year. I can't remember what it's switched over like twenty eleven. Maybe but what what. It just kicked to the wallet. We've gone from a top ten. Pick making one hundred million dollars to like thirty still a lot of money. I would love million dollars but still. That's a considerable drop off. But joe haden yeah he contract to hopefully soon to be completed like honestly i think we can probably get him five or six year that low and that would be phenomenal. It can't get along with that and the salary caps going to grow exponentially each and every year from here on out this year stadiums will be full again. The revenues up these new tv deals. I'd be shot. I know. I know the league set the cap at two hundred eight million dollars as a as the ceiling for this hour of next year. It's gotta hit that. I'd be stunned then. I really would be stunned. So five million dollars for gallon johann. Yes sign me up. I know we're rapidly approaching the top the hour here so two things down for the show. I'm gonna throw some of the competitions in training camp thus far. And i want you to give me who you think is the kind of clubhouse leader here for first and foremost the backup quarterback spot. Who would you say at this. Point is a qb to in pittsburgh mason. Rudolph is is number three. The dwayne askins or is nice football. Okay could only. I expect it to stay that way. Through the end of the season. I think they have more of a longterm plan for haskins than a you know. Get him go in this season kind of thing. Plus that are af- year. That's the steelers. Get them for as well. He's gonna cost peanuts next year so he'll be back just before we move onto the next guy. Josh dobbs could the steelers hang on a four. Could it be that vet practice squad edition and just hope. It doesn't poached. i don't think so. We'll really wow around sort of buddies as one of the things. They like him. So i bring him into camp. Give them a shot. Let him show himself. He nobody else's picking them up like let let him do something. Let him show that. There's no reason for them to in you know another devlin hodges type guy. they've got the depth. They need right. Gotcha now these other ones. We can go through a little bit faster here. Because i think there is a lot of spots still up in the air inside linebacker number three. I think it's gonna end up. Marcus allen really numbers don't like it Yeah but in gilbert ends up playing himself into the doghouse he always looks flashes and then other things he just doesn't have it so i think i think that will go. Probably yeah for me. I look at. I think the steelers are gonna go rookie heavy this year. I think buddy. Johnson ends up as the third inside linebacker. That's my opinion would be nice. It would be nice We certainly need it nickel corner. I think they're not going to do what i think they should do. But i what. I what i think will happen is probably millette. I think you're the arthur take that over. I've not sold on antoine brooks yet. He is he has some liabilities. People thought mike helton wasn't good coverage mike. He'll a lot better coverage than what we're going to get from from a antoine brooks junior. Kiss a fun one. Hopefully jeff hartman's tuned in hunter. Do we have to punters. Who's the other guy hill. Envy press see this year. I tell you why. I'm pressed on presley. Harvard not to put the cart before the horse. But a pressing hard makes this team. If steeler nation doesn't make him the pro bowl punter. I will be so disappointed in you. I'll be leading that charge pressing her own all the times all the votes. Who's the defensive lineman that's getting cut. Ooh that's a harsh one of. It's it's a tough question. We've talked about it all off season long. I'm sticking with bugs. That's someone's kinda like jumped at me for saying that. But i still think it's going to be isaiah buds. He took that stupid penalty he does those boneheaded things all the time like i think that some baccalaureate mondo still play special teams carlos davis looks good monday motto was also the first guy in art. It was him in a. What's his face. Chris warmly. Yes yes and louder mic. Looks good yet. I gotta feeling it's and you know what i wouldn't shed a tear i think i think they're smarter Like football iq on that defensive line. And that's that's the way i go about it. I'm really kind of lost one. I know andrew. Wilbur threw it in the live. Chat their butts a wide receiver five slash kick returner punt return. I think all things relative there rarely mcleod's and take any kicks. I know he's still listed as the returner but could matthew sexton be the guy. Could someone else be there. I know abuse. He's been turning some heads. Gosh there's the other receiver whose name is blanking knee right now. But the steelers kept kept him around off. Johnson yes. Recovered recovered a fumble. He did that was a beautiful recovery. To as those those make a mark. Man those make mark roberts bylanes stuck around May that's a tough one. I would love. I'm gonna probably go with sexton. I think you'll shot to.
GSMC Football Podcast
"joe haines" Discussed on GSMC Football Podcast
"The dallas cowboys will be facing the pits. Berg steelers man two teams a lot of fans People were excited to watch like the two. The two teams that have That are tied for the most super bowl Are they or are. They tied for second have five or one anyway. They're up there okay. 'cause i mean. I know tom brady's messed up a lot of statistics before tom brady. Guide dog is pittsburgh and the cowboys. Okay these two teams going at it. Tonight i will definitely watching. Can't wait to just sit on my couch. I'm really not going to be doing anything else. Take no i talk to you about some things we saw but know of course preseason. We're we can't expect to see too much. They're not gonna show their best play as they're not gonna risk anybody that you know is gonna risk any Injuries with that being said a couple of notable players that are out for sure or maybe questionable mark cooper's for the dallas cowboys is out tyron. Smith offense tackles questionable. Demarcus lawrence Demand for the dallas cowboys is questionable. Dak prescott quarterback for the cowboys is questionable. Well in pittsburgh side. They have a dax. Raymond tied in who's on injury reserved Pat for me month for me. Muth who is questionable in demarcus Ac at quarterback who is out all right Both of these teams men have a two they did. They got something to prove as you know the cowboys. Debt guide his money. The cowboys have you know. Got this and crazy. Offense got themselves new defensive coordinator. Make sure they can make up for the defense To go for at all Pittsburgh steelers start off the season so amazing last year Mike tomlin has extended his contract with them. Which you know the the pittsburgh steelers very loyal organization I believe they'd had like three quarterbacks. I mean three quarterbacks. Three head coaches total since the early nineteen hundreds or somewhere like nine hundred and sixty i i mean i know that's not early but i just it in nineteen hundred longtime which a lot of teams. They've had three in the last three years. Okay but yeah both of these organizations are up for you know shooting at their chance to make it all the way. Home okay A big pickup for the dallas cowboys was a rookie. Mike mike mica pearson Right there at middle linebacker think is hoping he can fill in that issue there while we're talking about these two teams. Let me give you. Their schedules Cowboys their precinct. Schedule are going to be playing Steelers this week. next week. they're going to be playing. The car knows Dna texans than the jags. They will kick off their official season. September ninth On nbc seven thirty pm huge game plan at the super bowl. Champion buccaneers all right. That's it's going to be a game to watch man following that man the rest of their season. It looks like Chargers eagles panthers giants patriots. Vikings broncos falcons chiefs raiders saints washington giants washington cardinals eagles. So yeah it's a solid very very solid schedule for them to make it you know for making it happen their team stats They were two hundred sixty yards passing passing yards per game which put them at eight rushing yard. One hundred eleven point. Eight seven points For you know points per game where averaged twenty four point seven which put them in seventeen points against away. I'm sorry the twenty four point seven points against them put them seventeen and then Points that they put up twenty nine point six fit with having their quarterback bag man as soon as he's healthy i wouldn't be surprised if that is somewhat similar. Remind you what. They're rosser looks like they have dak prescott starting them off but of course it would precede. We're going probably see a lot of backups. Backing him up. Our gary gilbert been nucci and cooper rush Ezekiel elliott in his backfield with tony pilot. Right behind him in. Everybody knows how impressive twenty poverty as he. Probably the most notable backup running back in the game Like i said amar cooper's out but behind him as cedrick wilson We also have cd-rom. Michael gallup blake darwin also leading the way as the starters on this team Don't be surprised if you know a tight. And you see indulge schultz. Aaron parker noah brown to see what everybody can see their about off. It's of line is back intact to be honest. I think they need to play starting Preseason just to get back into the swing of things really feel comfortable in tyron smith zag marginal collins all these injured guys Definitely need to Fill it Demarcus lawrence like i said is questionable but behind him is doors armstrong And then you know at linebacker. Like i just said mike. Parsons rookies needs to be Gebreel cox that they is. He's gonna be out there. Jalen smith needs to pick a back up. Trevan digs donovan wilson. Demong take qazi. Anthony brown all of their defensive players really needs to be planning to preseason not too hard but at least half the game just to get in the wraps of things switch into pittsburgh steelers. Let's talk about them. They're starting playing the cowboys tonight. Then they'll play. The eagles lines in panthers to wrap their preseason. They opened up at. The bills are dow on september twelfth. yeah really seeing them open against the bills. I think that's really the major game for them. Although i can't wait see what they do here. But as far as officially fool starters twenty two starters going against the bills is a good start because that is a team that you have to beat if you definitely plan on winning a championship after that following them. They play raiders. Bingles packers broncos. Seahawks brown's Bears lions chargers. Bingles ravens. vikings titans chiefs brown's finish off with the ravens. I just love how the rival spe- in games man the winter home but he But yeah one of their notable pickups this off season in the draft is niger. Harris last season debut much didn't have much of a running game so they're really hoping that they can lean on nause to make it happen to me is very well. Very good poised Rookie running back very diverse in woody can do To be honest. I think a lot of people look at him as like an album chimera. I think that's what we're planning to see from. At least that's what he gave us. He would give us a a lot of kamera esque Movements and plays when he was in bama so we're gonna continue that into the league if his offensive coordinator smart that's how they're using them But yeah man. Let's look at their chart. Like i said we're talking about the preseason. Preseason you are gonna get a lot of backups. Especially when you're starting quarterback has proven himself and he's up in aid he needs to really be out there being rothenberger start off Came back to do another year for the pittsburgh steelers. Even though the president of the organization said this might not be his last year behind him he has mason rudolph. Who took over for him while he was gone injured. Dwayne haskins pickup that they got this off season from the washington football team and josh dobbs that they got years ago and somehow he's sitting all the way at the back of depth charges snagging better who knows Like i said nashi smith the rookie. Definitely want him to get acclimated comfortable with that real. That real deal football in a fail feels like no more of the college bamboo stuff where you guys are dominating. It's a walk in the park. You coming out of the game Bought a second quarter starting receivers. Juju smith schuster chase klay pool. Deontay johnson Tied in eric. Brar are these all are very reliable individuals but behind them or Solid guys hoping to make their sean in his preseason so that they got what it takes. Jane's washington ray ray macleod cody white in pat Firm youth. You know that that name again. That i struggle with Offensive line solid. We go back to defense. They did lose bud depre- but they still got tj why who which is arguably the best Deion of in the game Statistically our defensive lineman in the game statistically okay After what he did last season. But would you have him out there. I probably wouldn behind him. You got cases. Marsh got haney Henry moto isaiah. Bugs chris warmly. Those guys are probably going to really be trying to get it out there. Get it on alex. Highsmith start at linebacker with devon bush in robert spilling who knows. We're going to go on there. They did pickup. Melvin ingram the third though So that might be someone. We'll get to see Duke it out joe. Haines still there though Starting at cornerback. We got james pierre behind him that you might pick up A lot of work in this preseason. I had approved. We don't see it solid. it's it's on both sides. This is the curtain that was handling their business last season at the beginning of the season when i believe they went with eleven. Ino- does as far as they were in the beginning of the season last year But who knows. I mean like i said stat. Wise they they got a lot no one. They didn't have one thousand yard rushing last season nor did they have one thousand yard receiving last season. So if that's going to happen. I think is gonna pick up this year Microfiche patrick as safety. And he led them in tackles last season.
GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast
"joe haines" Discussed on GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast
"You have melvin ingram. The former pass rusher for the chargers he signed with pittsburgh. The pittsburgh steelers so he'll be going to pittsburgh. I do like the move for pittsburgh. I think they definitely needed to address the pass rusher situation. Obviously you know they lost by duprey you know. They needed somebody to replace that. And i you know. Obviously melvin. Ingram is definitely older than bud duprey and you know he does have an injury history so there is that is something to keep an eye on. When you're you know looking at the defense. Listen i think when it comes to the steelers defense you know. it's going to be one of the defenses. Taking on one of the first defenses taken off the board as usual. i mean. There's still going to be a sack machine And that's definitely something that a lot of fantasy players are going to want. I think the problem with the steelers is obviously their secondary. And you know they do need help at the cornerback spot. I believe you know. Obviously they make fitzpatrick. And you know he's just. Starting joe haines getting older You know so. The the secondary is really. What's going to be the problem for the steelers defense. So you know. We'll see what happens with that. I do like the signing. As long as he stays healthy you know could definitely help the steelers out. And also vince williams the middle linebacker for the steelers. He announced his retirement. So the series. You're gonna look to fill that void You know in the linebacking core. But really i think the major problem with the steelers is going to be there or an issue is the secondary i think. Really what the problem is going to be. i think. of course they're seven gonna be fine Like i said melvin. Ingram stays healthy. This defense is going to be really good. So i think really. There's i mean. I think the steelers defense is still going to be. One of the first defense is taken off the board..
Behind the Steel Curtain
"joe haines" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"To step up against the run as a backup edge rusher guys on the roster and it's one of the big things i think all steeler fans should be concerned about the season they haven't found that guy moving back off the defensive line and into the linebacker core one of the big things we need to point is if devon bush's healthy and if devon bushes a capable of playing throughout the year of course. We seem kind of his twitter escapades. I guess is one way to put it where he's kind of in one sense. He might be trolling fans just kind of going off. The deep end with his crazy tweets and whatnot not to get into too much but of course he he just goes on and on but it seems to slow down recently. Maybe he was just trying to make people talk about them. I'm not one hundred percent certain on that but possibly that could be what was going on there but of course. He's coming off an acl injuries. Well his health is a pretty big pretty big thing. Steelers defense was dominant in those. What i seven games regular season. They were still really good after that. But both debris devon bush. We're healthy on the field. Steelers swarmed the football day. Where great if devon bush returns to form and continues his progression upwards. The steelers have a very very good inside linebacker in former michigan wolverine past him. If he if he can stay healthy there is still the spot beside devin bush which raises a couple eyebrows number. One vince williams. Of course the steelers released him but he signed back in a one year veteran minimum deal just to remain with the steelers likely to end his career. As a pittsburgh steeler with twenty twenty. One most likely being the final of those seasons of the vince willing mira if he starts to look his age of course we know the steelers love putting their linebackers and terrible situations been to williams has been tasked with covering receivers struggling at it. Because we know it's not a strong suit yet. The team continues to do it but again. He's another year older He wasn't scooped up us cooped up off the street for any a nice amount of money so there is some recent. Be worried about vince. Williams but still have some guys to try to spell them Depending on the situation but felix age that could be a bit of an issue for the steelers. Hopefully vince williams can kind of continue to be that That field record field general that he has been in recent years. The other guy that you kind of have a little bit of concern about is robert spelane. Of course it's kind of hard to judge his effort in the playoff game because he was definitely playing hurt. I don't think he was absolutely ready to take the field one. The steelers play the browns in the wild card game. of course he's nursing that knee injury So we struggled struggled against the pass. He struggle against iran. It was by far from his best game. But if roberts bullying takes a step back and looks more like that practice squad guy that he was in tennessee and his first year in pittsburgh. Then there's definitely reason to be worried Split had a couple of huge splash plays last year which rocked them up a lot of the fan rankings and that positional depth chart but he still a guy that was an extremely raw talent and hasn't done those things over an extended period of time so s- to prove he can do that Cudi potentially To plant vince williams as the starting. I'll tell her inside. Linebacker beside devon bush possibly but that will be a question that will be answered training camp and really beyond that so hopefully split can continue his ascent up the depth chart and continue his way. The nfl ranks really because he did show some flashes but if he takes a step back all of a sudden the steelers might not have a guy beside devin bush and once again another hole in the defense moving outside to the defensive backs one of the big things that we touch on. Of course joe haden. Who's entering the final year of his deal. Joe haines been are honestly the best corner. The steelers have had since they signed him. What five years ago. Now if he can continue to truck on at the ability that he's been playing the steelers will be absolutely fine but if he starts to show his age which is something. We'll have to ask now until joe haden really shows age It's a question to bring up every single off. Season No matter how annoying that may get because once again he is a corner north of thirty now and he's been playing football for a very long time so if he starts to shows age or slow down a little bit then there might be some concern at the corner position and really there is a little bit of concern as we sit here right now. We do not know if cameron son or james peer. Whoever is the true answer at that. Other cornerback spot. I know both those guys have shown flashes in the past but now the first time you them will be asked to be the starting outside corner for the pittsburgh steelers. This is pretty big tall. Ask out of anybody to step on the field after being a backup for a number of years And prove themselves worthy of being a starting corner in this league kam-sun struggles that could that could be kind of a nail in the coffin situation. We've seen the steelers. Have some bad quarterback play before. They signed. Joe haden and then signed steven nelson. We know what it's like. We noticed like to have such a glaring hole in just teams lining up their receivers on that side of the field and just taking advantage of poor cornerback place though the steelers cannot afford that they need. At least eighty percent of what steven nelson was last year out of sudden and peer. Which i think is absolutely doable. Heck they could even match the production of steven nelson from a year ago. But they need to be able to do that over. Seventeen games so that is a pretty big question. Mark as well Another spot staying in the in the corner field. That nickel cornerback spot. We don't know who's going to be The steelers really only signed arthur malaysia. Who right now is listed as a safety on the steelers site And they signed a bunch of safeties and corners In the undrafted free agent market kinda desperately looking to see if they can find the guy that can play nickel. Who knows if they did. They tried the best of their ability to bring some names in. But i don't know if that's enough. I i wouldn't anticipate mike helton levels of production Out of any of these guys really. So i if they can just be good enough if they have to change the position and that's something the steelers to but it's something the lookout for is what they can do with their nickel corners. And the last spot. That i think is important to bring up is At strong safety and terrell edmonds of course last year throughout most of the season trill edmonds was a tight end shutdown guy. You're saving tons of compliments before kind of the end of the year. Kind of Taking a step back to a certain degree which really kind of hurt a little bit and once again kind of put that knife in the back of edmonds from steeler fans that have been calling him a bust from day one he needs seventeen straight games plus playoffs of being that tight. End a racer to kind of prove his worth. If you cannot do without the steelers will be in the market for another strong safety net next year because once again they did not pick up his fifth year option. The third time they've ever done that so the steelers have some question marks at strong safety as well so with all that being said. I want to thank you for tuning in today's edition of the live. Mike i appreciate you hanging around and taking this ride with me. We'll catch you guys next week Training camp is on.
The Red Box Politics Podcast
"joe haines" Discussed on The Red Box Politics Podcast
"I call charlie. And patrick mcguire. Box editor of the times patron mcguire. So what do we think what we think storm is likely to go while we were slightly tim ship out of saudi blindsided last week when he did six not terribly enlightening questions on low weight convictions. Which actually did after six questions manage to elicit an apology for boris johnson. Which was a bit of a surprise. What do you think you'll go on this time. So thinking in the labor leaders office or what's left of it. is that matt hancock. Revelations have basically low at the ball for for questions stories etc on covert so it wouldn't surprise me if they revived some of this stuff form kovic it. Contracts for instance has a real feeling that now labor can not to diminish the importance of these stories but sort of take out the trash that they failed to cut through also schools is obviously a big issue and given it's the battling spam by-election tomorrow. Maybe we'll see a couple of questions on foreign affairs. And i doubt it. I don't think labor would want to lean into the idea that they are clients. Do go to george galloway. But i reckon cove it schools miscellaneous is probably at least you like some of the party of tried to various times. Get cloning thing going and so far at least the reaction from the public seems to have been largely. There was a crisis on you. If you can't help it ends all stands bit complicated. But the matt. Hancock thing personifies that cabinet minister and his lover who was on the payroll. Yes and it's not phrase one roof for them. Right as you say. Matt hancock is the living embodiment of that perception of dole's thunder the cova contrast you can also picked it up also the revelations Yesterday of the new quarantine policy. Not just for the uefa bigwigs. As the times of you'll do the week but for businessmen who are making high net worth transactions for the for. The good of the economy wouldn't surprise me. Storm tide all of those together. We just keeping an eye on the The house accumbens and Lindsay holy the common speakers making statements will be a few minutes before we get to the first question. Warn warn backbench question before we get to kiss donna case tom. You mentioned the fact that he's the thinking in his team to the team left director. Communications gone deputy excommunications gone. He's political director. Jedi chapman's been moved. Chief of staff has gone. What what do we think. Sort of kissed arma two point zero. We'll look like i think there is the main critique you hear from labor people was the inexperience of that team. I think i think the the main difference will just be a certain shortness. I think he will. Label will comment on things quicker. They will often. You know you've been here. The question is will hang on. This thing happened today. Go labor no worries. Kissed on. I think in the immediate term it will just be to get back on the pitch So it wouldn't surprise me if we had a a shop said of punchy topical questions from kissed on this week we can The last couple of bortles kick things off by saying he wants to congratulate gareth southgate and his team on the two nil win against germany women. Not the first time. The team have beaten germany fifty five years in a knockout game. We wish him all the best against ukraine on saturday. We're hoping against hope this time finally football is coming home. That took all of about eight seconds before boys johnson brought that up is interested in the interaction between football and politics because if if england win will have an impact on sort of public moods and politics. Well i mean harold wilson. I won't throw this red box. Joe haines harold. Wilson's for press secretary sent me a very angry email saying this isn't true but you know. How a wilson allegedly thought so. When england were playing germany. I think it was in the nineteen seventy will cook. He was desperate for polling day. Not clash in case they lost and and he subsequently lost the election or depress turnout. You know. I think england in the euros with a basically full stadium at wembley would regardless of anything else. That's happened sort of sort of chime with boris johnson's whole summer of unlocking knock on some level. Though i think every some of the some are for the prime minister. But yes. I think that's a buoyant irrepressible optimism will. It'll be a good budget from out. And it was on the eleventh. Isn't the let we've got a long way to go yet. But i see coming what a week before restrictions be lifted. The weather my even improve. Suddenly things might be suddenly looking a bit looking better. We are waiting to go live to the house of commons case stopping stomach..
Behind the Steel Curtain
"joe haines" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"Pacman that gain is the only playoff win cameron heyward has played in. And isn't that amazing. That's amazing rod. Because he's been in the league. What ten years now and we cannot say. You're not guess this was the black ango go-goes that we keep saying the steelers that really good team and we are good team but then we don't have the results for these plays. They want need that hall of fame coach to be that extra. Tear up talk because came here with us. One win out of all these chances at a ten years. It doesn't say it doesn't seem right. Does it well and joe haines than here this. This was his fifth year here. And he's he hasn't played in the playoff win. Isn't wanna play and he can help you know. He's been a huge help to this team. He's been a huge force on the steelers team. Hasn't won a playoff game with us. You know fitz. Patrick came over. He hasn't t j. What hasn't won a playoff game lake. What's going on like we've got a we've got to step it up. This is what. I was thinking. When i was to your audience for the sherman and then straight away when castro left. Also like hang on a minute big ben's and the gone that offense who has been in active playoff game all the sorry to win all the other guys and let me know that it's just just getting there isn't isn't good enough judy just getting their washington just getting their snow just getting their lost year. Not good enough to win to have that playoff culture and and starting winning culture and yes. We are standing on the stand tall and they pies. We made it but at this happens again. We're going to impact to we get go. Big ran on part to. What's gonna happen if it doesn't happen for the negative side but there's going be a time where you know you're playing you year. Like what now announced noticed all on him but the nfl is gonna help him out. Jeff yeah yeah i i actually i actually it with my own because i i was i was on the same page with you but a little bit of different direction. With ben roethlisberger is the only player who has been in a court in a playoff win for the steelers on There are a total of six players on offense who have played snaps on offense. They have to be offensive snaps in a playoff win period. Six of them you want to try and guess any of them all offense okay. I'll try my best apron. Would be one. Is that correct eric. Ebron two thousand eighteen indianapolis over houston guy. We guy on the offensive line. We added from the super bowl champions last year. From case casey from tamla played he played for tampa last year. He's ho-gau hague hague. He was her sixth offensive lineman. He played twenty one snaps in the super bowl. And these these players often. You wanna test my at my weight position like there there. Yeah you got one of the two non offensive lineman offensive lineman. He wasn't on our team in two thousand eighteen but he did win a playoff game in two thousand eighteen. Playoff davis brother hasn't all like derrick derrick lot two nine t playing ten snaps when the chargers beat the ravens no way but the who who the laws who the la okay. Well the guy we just added to replace. The castro played in the super bowl and two thousand fifteen so he won the he won the nfc championship game in two thousand fifteen. The last guy Avion collins two thousand eighteen minnesota over new orleans. He played ten snaps. He's offensive lineman but he got in on offense. They weren't special teams But that's it like avion collins probably isn't make this team you've got joe. Hager's of backup offensive lineman eric ebron derek lot. Who barely plays and the new guy. We decided to trade turner who hopefully healthy. So what you're saying is in total only offense. We really have zero experience in a playoff ron. And maybe that's the do that playoff victories in in our culture the moment whereas for years or even before two thousand ten we had were always gonna to be around. And if we didn't make the next few years you had new guys who were were piled. Delay the ship that's alyce. That's why me why. Ben roethlisberger was twenty. Seventeen was in two thousand seventeen two thousand sixteen season. Everyone on the team has a playoff win since then is wasn't on our team. And it's like derek. Whyte avion collins eric. Ebron and joe hague. It's like they're not leaders. These guys that leaders in your locker room. I'm just going to throw this out there for a minute comedy. Imagine if big ben was a problem the united may auto winds but then everyone else keeps leaving him not wanna taste that as some people will they say big. Ben is a problem. We've kept him. We haven't had other applies to stick around this offense and if big big ben the only one is one the pie with the button then maybe the other plays sign jon like playing with him but he seems to be the only one united sometimes when that happens in las. If you're the person you you disagree with thirty people maybe it's you up. I'm just gonna stay off that topic. Nothing save about that day. Director director letters davidson. I'm not saying it's the right thing. I'm designing the possibility but it's coming back into these players that the buy in however yet. It's tough one. I looked into this race. Such about not winning lost person to win a playoff game and twenty seventeen was ben. There's nobody else on the offensive line. So who's the leadership is a ben And before we go to break doesn't doesn't doesn't matter that we haven't won a playoff game. Did you run run. Rampant and fry moves. Go crazy and we will get a playoff win. Doesn't matter i don't think it does. I honestly don't think it does it. Doesn't it doesn't matter once you win one right. This only matters until we win a playoff game right the minute we wanna play off game. How many games you want is a relevant like. It's it's not really relevant like it didn't help us in two thousand and ten ben rothlisberger ton more playoff games than aaron rodgers had right. Didn't matter the it was a two time superbowl champion. The green bay packers beat us. We have you know It it doesn't it doesn't really matter it didn't matter. Cleveland wanna playoff game in forever..
Behind the Steel Curtain
"joe haines" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"Messing with the the offense or seeing you know seeing a matchup they prefer different player to to take on it. So i i still think arthur me will be your number one backup safety but i think he will also be like your dime back. So i'm gonna. I'm gonna go with him primarily there and then behind him just a really is another like backup safety. Truly just a safety kind of kind of player on this defense. They just kinda. Don't go for that right now. Yeah no. I totally see that as well. Now i'll put you on the spot much like how. I put our guests on this bottled earlier. Who would you say the best dealers defensive back his who was not named making fitspatrick for twenty twenty one twenty two joe haden still. Yeah joe haden until he proves it's joe haden. Although i wanna i wanna i wanna jump in here i stats guy too. So i'm big on like recognizing small sample sizes james. Pierre didn't play that many snaps. But if you were to just take every single snap. He played at cornerback. And you were to compare it to to the other steeler cornerback. We've had man. You can make an argument. His his film looks better than joe. Haden like you could. You could make the argument. James pierre looks just on film and that very small sample size like the best cornerback. We've had since taylor. that's just. His film was incredible. He he's playing at a very high level. he just doesn't have great physical attributes. So so with a caveat there that if james pierre is what he showed last you know if he can turn that into a full season of play. I will change it to james pierre. I just don't. I don't think that's realistic to expect that. But at the same time. That's what he put on film right. That's put on film. That's what he bought on film. That's what he did on the field so there's a chance change. Pierre could just be like pushing. Joe haden out the door after the season if he if he's that that good agai- that's that yeah. That is really interesting. Especially the way you put it at the end there and i would agree that joe hayden is probably the next best defensive back after minkah fitzpatrick but of course is a contract year. Four joe haden And of course it's a decentriq centric show tonight. Do you think joins coming by. And before you answer. i'll. I'll throw my answer out there. I because i i think his of is vocalness e in that in that locker room and how he's a leader and how he's respected by literally everyone in the nfl. Anyone that's ever talked to joe. Haden play in the nfl. They'll rave about him. How he just the man. I feel like that affects things where you're gonna wanna want to bring them back really vocal leaders outside of cam heyward for that defense. There's not a whole lot allow guys. Tj walk from my understanding. He only talks. He only talked to bud dupree and his brother was his kind of circle on the steelers but when it comes to vocal leaders of course you've got cam heyward but then joe haden such a fixture. Do you think he gets reassigned. Even if james pierce might take step ahead of him is he someone that you have to bring back if he can still go. That's a good one I can't. I can't see joe. Haden moving into a reserve role like he. That guy has made money right like like he has like you. Listen how's the steelers. When the steelers. Talk to each other like joe. Hayden's the rich guy who he is but if you look at it has been corner of all time. Yeah yes thank you. You get in there he got. He's still got the good rookie deal end right before the slotting. And he got that big contract with cleveland. They paid a ton of money. I don't think he's the kind of guy who's going to be like okay. I'll take a small deal and be a backup because he just be like you know what i'm why would i. Why would i do that because he also has. He has a lot of pride like any like really good defensive back you have to be that kind of guy who carries a chip. Who's a lot of pride. And you know he's gonna he's gonna make sure he gets respected that kind of that kind of a person I don't see him taking a reduced role. Like i think he's that guy that if he can't play outside anymore than he's done he's walking away from the game so i'm leaning towards no but i don't. There's also the problem that joe haines fantastic shape shape. He'll using his workout videos with that like footwork guru guy that he goes to that allow the players. Cameron sutton has videos with him now. To heat the stuff he can still do that. Level of training. He has If he still playing like he did last year you you have to bring him back. He's just that good and he is like you said he's that leader. He is that guy. Everyone looks up to everyone respects. He he is something else man. I i love joe haden and i. Yeah so i'm gonna go uncle with. Yeah i'm gonna go with. He comes back a good amount of money. And he's back i. I really hope so when it comes to respected players across the nfl number one. If if you were to poll players who's the one guy you wanna see when a championship before they retire. I think number one is gonna be. Larry fitzgerald period. I'm not sure if there's anyone that's ever been more respected than fits but number two benches joe haden. He is beloved in. nfl circles. And really. I hope i hope and pray get. He gets one before he hangs. It hangs up. And i really hope that's in pittsburgh of course but before we move onto the db's i pose you. This is joe haden hall of famer right now as we sit here. Is you wait a or i was just thinking about that because you were saying about joe haden. He's we wanted to win a super bowl and we love it to be in pittsburgh. I think joe hayden is.
The Red Box Politics Podcast
"joe haines" Discussed on The Red Box Politics Podcast
"I'm i was privileged in researching this book to talk. Not just to pull harrison. Were talking a little while ago. But to bernard ingham to alastair campbell. Joe haines too many other press. Secretary's let me tell you. None of them ever felt anything remotely cozy stephen with pointing out the obvious only ever be briefing for number. Ten is only ever going to be one of your sources as a political correspondent. I'm one of the stories. I think it must have been quiet political day but there was a bit of a row going on back in the coalition years about the price of energy energy. Bill this jumper gators. And i was so so david who was then. An energy minister had made a comment about whether it was cold. People could put a sweater should put a sweater on to keep warm and there was this whole the pack. Were asking a slightly inexperienced press spokesperson whether the minister was advising the public to wear a sweater if they were cold and i think they eventually managed to persuade the person to say something like well. Yes i do. Put on a sweater if i'm cold and yeah that is perhaps not one of the i remember. It was often the final morning lobby. There's not much going on. Journalists were balls and i remember anywhere on and on and on about whether or not if someone's cold with the prime minister suggests they put a jump for the obvious answer is of course if you're called you jump from but this the spokesman rightly identified. If you said that you've got the saying turn your heating often put a jump on says part of this and then he becomes out of touch of touch elite surely the lobby but never behave badly in your day though phil webster who is really a with me and we would quite merciless and and particularly on foreign trips As as you were saying foreign trips the lobby often ran amok and There was something about being out of the country together And if little story started running it it tended to get out of control again with. Neil connect wants in washington when reagan was still president. Can gwynne to try and dissuade reagan. That labor's unilateralist policy that he was still lumbered with the time Made all kinds of sense and we spoke to kick and and healy afterwards and apparently the meeting it all gone very very well until one of our journalists went along to the white house briefing. He he was had later deadline so he went along to the white house briefing. It was one hundred percent different way that came out. Was that connecticut. Had a real dressing down from reagan about the About the policy The unilateralist policy. And that of course became the story until we got back to kennedy and healy and found out that the president spokesman rather laid it on on how to come up with a story that was down in the middle. And it's it's the way that those very often on on these trips the agenda that had been set by the press secretary at the time was completely ripped up On the on the time leaving. Heathrow steve looking ahead to the future of the lobby. What we've seen actually the possible year. Eighteen months of the pre covid were attempts by the boss. Johnson damage sort of circumvent the lobby more just putting clips out on social media. And that's the thing even divide the lobbying to those allowed into briefings in those Not allowed there. Was the abortive plans then. Televise lobby briefings which everyone in the lobby said to be. A terrible idea for concerned low behold came to that view to might now lobby briefings taking place on zoom all teams with people texting questions. It's not particularly conducive to sort of open debate and interrogation but well she sink the long-term state of the lobbyist d think that actually people will go more and more fighting their own. I if essentially you're getting almost nothing from the number ten machine. People talk about being spoon fed things on number ten. If only sometimes they even you the spoon must. Do you think longs looking five ten years time. Do you think. I think the immediate question is when do we go back in person right which is presumably at the end of the restrictions. And the sooner that happens the better because it's finding over the phone and we will kind of coalesce. One person chairs lobbied lobby. They ask questions and that's fine but it's no replacement for doing face to face and that's for better and for worse so on the worst side one of the things. That always drives me nuts about lobby. Briefings when you get kind of grandstanding from reporters trying to of be very funny and very witty are one. Those and someone was trying to kind of make. Repeated snarky jokes in that questions and on the fringes of degree was one dominic. Cummings at the time who is watching these proceedings with interest and in fact as we know in hindsight sharpening the knife for the end of those briefings to bring televised briefing now. Those televised briefings didn't happen but the best of the lobby is when as a pack. It smells where the story is. It smells whether non dials and it goes for hopkins notch not veteran person. So for me. The sooner we get back to impose briefings the better now going to agree with you milwak- if only because the watts on post their questions will start. Beeping constantly won't give it questions of of absurd. A final word to you having having around in the history of the book to what your book the history of the lobby. What do you think about where it will end up. Because he to some extent. Reading was how much hasn't changed. Do you think the combination of technology and you. We'll do what we like. Attitude in indiana street means the lobby will change the coming as well. I think the lobi constantly changes and stephen has pointed out. There are lots of different ways of getting your information these days in way. I think the lobby. Because it's somebody really jealous. Like stephen lots of enterprising people who realize that they've got to continue to make their own way in this changing political and media landscape when you've got social media and so on i mean they're exploiting it. It's interesting how often it will be a lobby. Journalists tweeting align. Out which. I get alerts you to perhaps a big breaking political story and media journey and political journalists as well as the politicians now use social media as part of this kind of ongoing battle to shape the political narrative. I think some of that out right hostility to the lobby from number ten has if operated somewhat with the departure of dominic cummings and his colleague. Who was the director of communications lee now then longer in downing street it appears to be back back much more on a level of sort of formal equilibrium. They're never going to be. It's never going to be a love. It is at matt but so. I think that the caliber of political journalist we've got and their ability to adapt to the changing media and political landscape. I think that they had to stay while hopes because his all work and We'll find out what today's lobby briefing brings us when he kicks off today. Like i said it all happens on teams and post questions whatsapp group and yeah the poll journalists. Chairing ashley. Get some sense.