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07:59 min | Last month

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"This is grainy amber Wilson and Joe forton boff villain in were presented by Progressive Insurance all callers, join us on the Dr Pepper Collin line when I say E as pian, that's one 8 8 8 7 two 9 three 7 7 6. So Joe, let's do some quick hits around the world of sports. This Antonio Brown situation. Let's start there because it has not gone away yet. A lot of people thought when he tossed his Jersey into the stands and his gloves and he runs off the field half naked mid game, maybe we were done. With the AB conversation, we are far from done, at least for now, with the AB conversation. I want to actually think that we're actually not done period because I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up back in the league because of that talent, nevertheless. We're not even done in terms of the conversation with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He is not officially been released by that team, even though we at one point thought that he had been. He has not been apparently that situation still getting worked out. The NFL network had a report that Antonio Brown said that he was actually too injured to go back into the game. It was that same ankle that he had injured earlier in the season. He had been cleared to play in this game, but remember he had tweaked it, Joe. In the previous game and reportedly, he at least it seems like his representation is saying that he was hurting on that ankle again and that he didn't want to go back into the game because of that and Aryans told him essentially to get out of here. If you're not firing him, theoretically speaking, get out of here if you're not going to go into the game, so he did just that. Bruce Arians, of course, was asked about this report here was Bruce Arians, the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I know you said yesterday that, you know, the perception is that they be Antonio Brown poetry. He's lost on block off the field, but he wouldn't go in the game because he was injured, and now he's no longer part of the team. Can you fire a player if he won't? Go because he's injured? I don't know that he was. Did he say that he was or was there just that? No. He just refused to go in or can you tell us more about it? Not really. I mean, what happens pretty obvious what happened. So he left the field and that was it. So you didn't tell him to leave. He left completely on his own in this thing yesterday. We had a conversation and he left the field, yeah. Bruce obviously, you guys gave Antonio a chance and he helped you guys win a Super Bowl last year. If you have him this year, were there any type of regret? How are you look at this whole experience now that it's into this way? No, I have no regrets. I just hope the best for him. I thought it was interesting there, Joe listening to that sound because there's one point where the reporter where a reporter asks Bruce Arians, did you didn't tell him to leave the field? He just left. And Bruce Arians responds was we had a conversation and he left. He never actually emphatically said I didn't tell him to leave. And we know how this works in that world. And you're always reading between the lines. It's hard to get the full story. When you and I discuss this situation with Antonio Brown yesterday, I said we really don't know where this situation started. I mean, we don't have any information yet on why he was so angry or why he let, presumably something happened, even if it had nothing to do with anybody there. I mean, presumably there's some reason that Antonio Brown's upset, right? And runs off the field and we just didn't have that information coming into the show yesterday when you and I were having this conversation. But not surprising to me that this situation has gotten a bit more murky. Number one, even if Aryans told him to leave the field, he didn't tell him to take off all of his pads, his shirt, throw him and make a spectacle of himself. That was AB's choice. There it is. There's probably a lot of us who have quit jobs before that's probably how secretly it went in our minds. I'm not sure most people do that. But you didn't have faith. A lot of people I probably want to like throw their shirt at their old job and just like walk out. The famous scene in half baked, where he's telling everyone what he thinks of him, you're cool, I'm out. The whole thing, I can't say the rest of it though. You can't say the rest, yes. So that's number one. If he didn't tell a baby to do that, number two, Antonio Brown, and this is unfortunate for him, but his reputation proceeds him. No one's gonna side with him in a debate over this because of everything we've seen from him. What happened at the end of his time in Pittsburgh? What happened with his very brief stint with the Raiders? What happened in New England and what's happening now? All that evidence is there, and then on the other side, there's Bruce Arians, a well respected Super Bowl winning head coach. People are gonna side with Arians over Brown because Brown time and time again has shown you he's unreliable and he's untrustworthy. Yeah, the reputation here is not going to help Antonio Brown in this situation. Nick Saban, moving on to college football. We haven't talked a lot of college ball here over the last couple of days because NFL has been so dominant, but Nick Saban made some headlines and it's not because he's headed to the national championship. It's because he doesn't think college football should expand. Here's Nick Saban. I don't necessarily agree with your assessment of our game. I can't speak to the other game, but it was a really hard fought game for us, and we have a tremendous amount of respect for the team that we played. I don't know that expanding if this is the best 14s and they played each other. I don't see the logic and if we had more teams, there would be better games. I don't know how that adds up, but I really not in position to answer that. You know, there's a lot of other good teams that whether it was their consistency and performance or whatever happened to them and championship games or whatever that may have had the opportunity to get in the playoffs that didn't, but look, I'm not the one that needs to be deciding what to play off needs to be. There's a lot of good people out there that can make a decision as to what's best for college football, but the more we expand the playoffs the more we minimize bubble games, the importance of bowl games, which, you know, I said when we went to four, so I don't think that's changed. And I think it's also come to fruition. Of course, Nick Saban doesn't want college football playoff expansion to go further than it already has because that's more competition for his team. It is his team. You're in a year out is in this mix and is going to continue to be. I understand why Nick Saban himself, why would you want to put yourself in a position with even more competition and even a harder road to get to a national championship? Of course Nick statement doesn't want that. I do agree with his point that the more teams you put into a playoff, the more you devalue the other bowl games because they just don't have the significance of wait for it a playoff. And I think he's right on that front. I also believe that Sabin no matter how you schedule the format, how you set it up, he's going to be there competing at the end of the season every single year. That's just what Alabama does. You can make it a 130 team playoff, which it essentially is 130 teams in college football. Go get them. But the problem is Saban's always going to be there at the end. So whoever you are, however you want to structure it, Bama is going to be a force you still have to reckon with as long as Nick Saban's in Tuscaloosa. They're going to be a force that you have to reckon with, but at the same time, you know, any given year, right? I mean, there's always going to be that March Madness type of possibility with the more expansion that does come. And that is a threat to a coach like Nick Saban, who's used to being at the top of course everybody would want an easier path to the top and they are still going to end up at the top a whole lot of seasons, but their path is made a little bit more difficult by everybody who they have to get through on their way there. Joe quickly, Kyrie, Irving, he is apparently going to make his NBA debut this season against the pacers on Wednesday. We'll finally see Kyrie play some basketball this season as a part time player won't be at home. We know that. He's only playing road games. What do you make of Kyrie coming back for the nets? Good luck, have fun. You didn't really want to do it. You didn't want to follow the protocols. I'm more focused on what's happening in the Bay Area when Klay Thompson returns on Sunday. Because it's a dude who wants to play. That's a dude who has battled a knee injury and Achilles injury in his worked his rear end off to get back on the court. He wants to play basketball. He wants to contribute. He wants to play at home. He wants to play on the road. He wants to play in the playoffs. I'm focused on that. Kyrie, he might want to play he might not want to play. He might want to follow this rule or that rule, he might need some time off. Fine. Do you, son, but I'm interested in Klay Thompson's

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

02:47 min | 6 months ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"Two games to Arizona. He's leading the cubs right now at home runs so far this season with 9 and just I'm feeling about this. It's my longbow long shop, left three 50, Patrick wisdom to have a whole month. I love it. I love it. I've got three plays in Major League Baseball really quick. I like the Phillies. I'm gonna lay the one and a half on the run line, Atlanta, Davidson, left handed left handed pitcher for the braves struggling against Philly's power Philly's tenth in run scored. I think Harper goes yard on him. I like the cards on the money line at minus one 20 against the Blue Jays. Blue Jays have been struggling against right handed pitchers and also you've got the cards with a much better bullpen than the blues that's for sure. And not to mention the cards, put up 18 runs yesterday against Pittsburgh. I think they pick up where they left off and last but not least, give me the Dodgers. I'll lay on the run line. I'll lay the one and a half against the Nats. That's minus one 35. Dodgers, as we know, great offense. They're averaging 5 runs a game Anderson is four zero. They've got a great bullpen and Washington, one of the worst if they're not worst bullpen in all of Major League Baseball. So those are my three Major League Baseball plays for today on this Monday afternoon. And last but not least, I know I'm looking way ahead, but I'm not on the podcast tomorrow. And I'm here in New York, and I had to cover this not had to. I've enjoyed it. This rangers postseason and their series against the canes has been a defensive juggernaut. It's been unbelievable and Aaron, the under is an ATM machine, the under has hit all three games in this series at under 5, you've been talking about the two of the best defenses in the postseason gesture in his 85 saves in the series already in three games, Rhonda has only given up three goals in this series. So keep that under rolling and you can get it right now at even money. Plus one ten, even money. So I would run to the window, the canes, rangers under for tomorrow night at 5. That about does it for me, and before we sign off? Nope, tune in the daily wager tonight. 6 p.m. eastern. Not only that, Aaron and I are not only our Aaron I do. Oh yes, on bet too. Right, we're doing the podcast today. We've got bet coming your way at 4 o'clock. Make sure you tune into that on ESPN+. And then of course, Joe forton ball holding down the fort, no pun intended in Vegas with Aaron and I as his wing women later on tonight. So this is a little over ten minutes. As we promised, please do us a favor. Don't forget to rate review and follow that you're enjoying the podcast. It helps us out tremendously. And of course, we will talk to you tomorrow..

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

05:39 min | 7 months ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"Doug gazarian alongside Joe forton ball and Joe, you got the good side and the bad side and some wild endings last night with the brewers run line and then also the team total over in the sun's game. I was trying to pick up a couple cheesesteaks while checking the score. First of all, there aren't any good cheesesteaks in Vegas. I read somewhere that being from the Philadelphia area I read somewhere that, yeah, you're gonna try this place just like Philly cheesesteaks. So I got double dipped as I was getting a lousy fake Philly cheesesteak. I watched the brewer's blow it in the 8th inning on the run line. So not happy. And then I went ahead and contributed to more heart disease with the cheesesteak. So as you can imagine, Doug, I woke up this morning. Non plus at the way things took down last night. New day though, new day as they say in the gambling world. But sun's over one to 8 one O 8 and a half team total got there because instead of a dribble out, they go for a dunk and get fouled. So yeah, very fortunate. Take this. They take it and they give it. All right, so two more playoff games today. We could see a series closed out with the grizzlies and warriors. I will say be careful hammering the warriors. It looks very tasty. I get it. And obviously they're not going to miss their first 14 or 15 threes, but this is a theme that has had trouble focusing over the years. This is a team that Klay Thompson is not the same in terms of defense, so it just overall, they don't have the stoppers like they once did and draymond's having to clean everything up. And the grizz kind of figured some stuff out going big, bully ball and Barkley was talking about it after the game on Monday. I'm not putting these grizzlies aren't rolling over. And I'm not putting in a home dog upset out of the question. All right, I got two plays on this game. The first one is the grizzlies team total under one O 7 and a half. And I am going to make a play smaller play on the warriors minus four. So we're going to be opposed on this one. I look back to the beginning of the series games in Memphis, warriors were laying two and a half in game one, one and a half in game two. Now you take morant out of the equation and they're only laying four, but to be fair, we have a lot of data points into those first two games in which Memphis has been quite competitive. The thing that gets me is you take morant out of the equation. He's averaging 38 points, 6 boards, 8 assists and three steals per game in this series. That's a big chunk you need to make up for, especially with Desmond baine, not really carrying his end of the bargain. So that's number one. Number two, the warriors have been brutal from deep the entire series, 32%. And yet they still won three of four games. If they wake up at some point from deep, they're gonna blow the grizzlies out of the water. And then number three, I wonder about the mindset of Memphis without Moran. It's not just like during the regular season when he was hurt, he'd miss a few games and come back. He's hurt and they're saying he could be done for the entire playoffs. Even if this comes back to win this series. So I'm wondering what the mindset is in the locker room. Small play on the warriors minus four in the event they wake up and I do think the grizzlies under one O 7.5 is a good play as well. Yeah, I like the under as well. I mean, that's where I'm headed, obviously it's not gonna be a rock fight first half like it was. On Monday, second half did go over for those curious. I'm not taking the grits. I just can't, but I'm not betting the warriors. That was my PSA to the public, but go fire way. More power to you, you'll probably win. First look, this thing looks way too high, 5 and a half. I made it like three and a half or four. So I just feel like there's an unnecessary tax but no Robert Williams. I know home teams have been thriving in these playoffs, but this is a different series than the one we saw last night. Last night was a situation where both all four home teams won. So that means the team that was on the road in game 5 was pretty spent after emptying the tank to win games three and four. So that's the case here at the bucks and Celtics. They alternate. So I have to take the plus 5 and a half here. Two place here as well. I agree with you on the side. This number jumped off the page to me. I'm thinking, why are the bucks getting 5 and a half? I think what we saw last night is baked into this line. And it shouldn't be. Essentially, this is a series that's two two. Miami Philly was two two, Phoenix Dallas was two two. Phoenix comes home, Boston's coming home and Miami came home. Miami one by blowout, Phoenix won by blowout. So I guess the mindset here is that maybe Boston went by blowout, I don't see that. I don't see that at all. Milwaukee is not Philadelphia. Milwaukee is not Dallas. Even without Chris Middleton. 5 and a half points way too many in my opinion. The money line here is Milwaukee plus one 90. Let's convert that for a second. That's a 34% chance implied probability they win this game. Based on what we've seen from Milwaukee in the past and what we've seen in this series. Do we really think they only have a 34% chance to win this game? I don't think that's the case at all. I think it's much better than that. So I put a little bit on the money line. I play the 5 and a half, and I also think we have to go under two 14 and a half here. This number is too high. It was under under gain one two and three in the total kept dropping. Then we got an over in game four, so now the total has been bounced back up. But look at game four. It was going to be an under until 71 points were scored in the fourth quarter. That's an outlier. So now the bookmakers see that game's gone over, and they bump this total back up to two 14 and a half. It's too high. First three games in the series Boston and Milwaukee were combined shooting just 40% from the field. In game four, they shot 46% from the field. That's the outlier performance..

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

05:25 min | 7 months ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"I'm Doug Kazarian alongside Joe forton ball and also I guess technically my dog Arthur, who is here wanting to be pet. Arthur, I always love it when he gets himself on to SportsCenter. You don't get to see him on SportsCenter, but you get to see him bump into the tripod and wiggle the camera shot. It's always my favorite part of this working at this network. Yeah. It's pretty, it's pretty unique because he usually is just chill and sits there. So I felt comfortable with not putting him in the other room or anything, which I could have done all of that. But he happened to when the TV was going and wanted to jump up on the chair and he bumped the tripod, so it is what it is. He's a star. You gave him a taste by bringing him on a couple times and now he wants on every time. That's how it is. That's true. I know. They say in the business, don't feed the puppy. Once you start responding, you know, if you're on a remote and there's people in the crowd and you start acknowledging them, all hell is going to break loose. So you don't feed the puppy. All right, let's get into a couple of games. I'm gonna keep talked about this on air yesterday briefly with Stanford Steve. We didn't really get into it in a full discussion on the show, but I'm firing against the reds, run line, just blindly doing it. I bet it like the previous night, don't even think about it. Don't track the score, don't do anything, just check it. Maybe at night. And I'm like, oh, 9 three and the 6, we're good. This one starts at an hour and a half from our taping. I'm laying it with the brewers one and a half. I'm not going to do it this week. 'cause then the reds host the pirates. And we don't want to get involved in that nonsense. So let's go slide. I'll let that one slide. Maybe we'll see how the first game goes or so, but you got some other baseball plays for us. All right, these games are tonight, I'm gonna rip through three of them. Number one, I'm gonna lay minus one 35 with Tampa Bay over Seattle. That Mariners regression that we talked about before the season started. It's very, very real. They dropped 7 of 8, and they send Robbie ray out there today. Ray Cy Young last year, but again, he fits Seattle perfectly because he's due for a regression and it's happening. He's given up 7 runs in his last 17 innings, which isn't awful, but look at who he's pitched against. Kansas City, the Marlins, the rangers, not exactly elite offenses, the raised hit lefties better than Seattle, Tampa minus one 35 over the Mariners. Game number two, I'm gonna take a shot here. The tigers plus one 35 over the Astros. I like the price giving the pitching match up. School bulls going for Detroit. He's been rock solid in two starts. He's been average to slightly below average in his other two starts. So he does have the goods. And remember, Houston's about league average against left handed pitching. So there's an opportunity here for Detroit to suppress those Astros runs. Now on the other side for the Astros, it's orchid, who's pitching 5.95 ERA, prone to getting rocked, the tigers have been miserable this year. I understand if you want to pass on it, Detroit plus one 35 over Houston. And then finally, the Phillies. First 5 innings, minus half a run over the mets. Okay, everything about this should point to the mets. Taiwan walker's pitched twice this season, both against the fills. He shut him down. Aaron Nolan just pitched against the mets, had a good outing, but not a great outing. That's a red hot, Philly stink. I like the bounce back spot for the fills. They just dropped two in a row against the rangers of all teams, big series here at the mets, Aaron nola's gonna go. He's been solid in his career against the metropolitans and in general. So we're gonna play the first 5 innings minus half a run 'cause it's gotten pretty pricey. Philly's minus one 25. Quick recap, raise minus one 35 over Seattle, tigers plus one 35 over the Astros, Philly's first 5 innings, minus half a run minus one 25 over the mets. Wow, quite the quite the list there. So you ripped through that. Interesting you're taking shots and grabbing like plus one 40. I know that's the way in baseball, but when I do that, like Stanford Steve like the Giants yesterday, I just can't. I need more than a buck 40. If I'm gonna bet into these powerful lineups and stuff like that, but goodbye you, let's hit the ice. Flames, I'm on them in the series. I'm on a minus one and a half games. Eked out at one zero win in game one. I'm gonna lay the one and a half here. I think we see a little bit more offense from Calgary or Calgary as they like to say. I'm in agreement with you. I would lay the one and a half. It's plus one O 5. Another bet I would make in this one and it's juicier. It's minus one 50, but I'd play the stars under two and a half goals. What you saw in game one, those Dallas struggles. That's not a rarity. That's not an outlier. That's how they've been throughout the course of the regular season. Dallas ranked 30th this year in goals per 60 minutes. And those woes have carried over to the playoffs. The stars register just 16 shots in game one. So it's not like they had a bunch of great opportunities, but couldn't cash in. They couldn't get to the net and they most certainly couldn't score. Now, Calgary number one in the NHL in goals allowed for 60 minutes during the regular season. So they've been a freight train all year long, and they allowed just 29 shots per game during the regular season, which is top 5 in the NHL. So the fact that the Dallas struggles to get to the net and struggles to score happen in the regular season happen in game one, Calgary does a great job of defending the net and not letting opponents get to the net and that happened during the regular season and in game one. I see that carrying over. I think the only difference in this game is that Calgary makes adjustments to get more offense..

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

06:42 min | 8 months ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"Anita Marx. I'm Joe forton ball. Anita, happy April fools day. Have you been tricked by anything on Twitter as of yet? I have funny you should ask. There's a memo circulating allegedly by the PGA Tour saying that players have to carry their own bags from here on out. I want to tell you realize what was happening. I was real then. You know, wasted a good ten to 15 minutes of my life. Yeah. Yeah, I've already been, I've already been April fooled. Yes, what about you? The only I tried to stay off Twitter, most of the morning, just to handle a lot of other stuff that's going on, getting the kids to school and all this. I did catch a very quick moment where Linda Cohn got caught by Julian Edelman who announced he was going to join the Buccaneers and he was coming back. And there was that split second where it was like, oh, figures, and then right there, it was like, no. No, it's not happening. And then Linda Cohn actually jumps back into the Twitter thread to acknowledge that she got tricked on that one. But I thought it was pretty funny. So that's what's going to happen. Everyone needs to be on high alert, where we don't want to be joking is with these picks. We're hoping to give you some winners and we're going to begin with the final four Saturday in New Orleans game number one, Kansas laying four and a half total of one 34 against Jay Wright and Villanova. How are you going to play this one Anita? I'm all over Kansas here. They're the better team and with Justin Moore being out for Villanova. He's their second best player. He was averaging 14 points a game. Their rotation now goes from 6 to 5. Is that do we even classify that as a rotation because you need 5 guys on the court at all times? Right. So Jay Wright is going to have to go to his bench in give us some minutes to some inexperienced players in probably the biggest game of their entire life. On top of that, Villanova only shot less actually less than 30% against Houston, they should have lost the Houston Joe. The only reason they didn't is that Houston missed their 5 last 5 straight shots, they missed ten of their last 11 shots and they went one for 20 from three pointer from downtown. Not good. Not news. So this is the most complete team in my opinion, still alive in the final four. And then of course, I've buried the lead here, and that's Remy Martin. You've got a guy. It's polar opposites coming off the bench. He's averaging 20 points a game for them. So to me, Kansas roles here, I'm going to lay the points with Kansas. Also, I'm going to play the under here under one 33, again, just because Villanova shooting 30% against Houston. Yeah, you could say Houston has a better defense than Kansas, but I'm rolling with the under as well. All right, there's a prop I like you're more than anything else. It's Villanova forward Eric Dixon going over 8 and a half points. Now we're getting a good price here in my opinion because Dixon only had 6 points against Houston in the elite 8 and 6 points against Michigan in the sweet 16. But remember, and you mentioned this, don't over guard Justin Moore suffer that Achilles injury against Houston. He's out for this game. That opens up about 15 points per game, which is what more was averaging at about 13 field goal attempts per game, which is what Moore was averaging. Now that doesn't mean they're all going to dixton, but they're going to get divided up amongst the other starters. So Dixon should have a higher usage rate in this game. And unlike the Houston game last weekend, where Houston much like going over trying to drag down the pace and the tempo of the game, Kansas is going to try to push it a little bit. Now whether or not they're able to push it for 40 minutes, that remains to be seen. But they are going to be able to probably generate a few extra possessions than what we saw last week, which helps my cause as well. I like the matchup against David McCormick. So Eric Dixon over 8 and a half points. Semifinal number two, I don't know if you're aware of this, but it could be coach K's final game as his duke blue Devils are late. Yeah. I mean, we work at ESPN. They barely mentioned it. We never talked about it on any of our shows. I figure I have to get it out there for the people. Total of one 51 here as well against UNC for all the glitz and glamour of this historic rivalry. First time these two have ever met in March Madness, what are you gonna do here? You're gonna lay it with coach K? Is that can we just marinate in that for a minute? When that was reported that this was the first time that these two programs will meet in the big dance, I was just like, no, that can't be true. I had to do my I had to do my own research. That's just like my brain exploded. But yes, can you $1 billion company with all you researchers? I'm doing my own research here. I don't believe you. I don't believe you, MIT folks. Anyway, I'm all over you and see here. I like you and see getting the points. I'm also, I think one of the best bets is that the game is going to be decided within a 5 point margin. So you could wager, you know, is it going to be decided between a one point 3.5 .7 .10 point. So I'm going with 5 point margin there. Also, I like the over one 51. Listen, UNC beat duke on senior night on their own court, put up 94 points against them. I think they come in with added swag and confidence because they were able to do that. You wouldn't see matches up really well against duke. They're consistent in the paint. They've only allowed 90 points in the paint this entire tournament. They are the second best rebounding team. They can contest perimeter shots. They've got size. They've got link. They've got athleticism. They've got a deeper rotation and this is going to be a track meet. So all the reasons why I like you and see also the last 6 meetings between these two blue Bloods has gone over and like I said, I do believe this is a game that's going to come down to the wire. So I'm going to play, I think the best bet is betting that it's going to be within a 5 point margin of victory. I think that that will be the safest bet on Saturday night. I'm with you on playing at target hills here. Doug and I talked about it all week on the show how we just want to sit and wait for maybe plus 5 to show up because we figured duke money's going to come in. It hasn't happened yet. And I'm not saying it won't happen, but I saw a reputable offshore book, go to three and a half for a few hours yesterday on Thursday. And I thought to myself, my God, how many of us are waiting to get a better price on North Carolina? Feels like the calm before the storm. A few things here. I really like what North Carolina's team has done, not only throughout the course of the season, especially as of late. It got better and better and better. Hubert Davis has done an excellent job with this club. Since mid February until now, their top ten in defense of efficiency. They have been huge on.

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

04:46 min | 8 months ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"Yeah, my favorite when, you know, we like picking on bad teams. So I mean, I'll throw falcons 5 and a half. That's comically too high. They may win one game. They're going to be like the Texans this year. They're talent so deficient of or they're roster so talent deficient. It's unreal. 5 and a half is way too high for the falcons. But my favorite one, which I think is just wildly disrespectful to this organization and its head coach. It's having the Pittsburgh Steelers at 7 and a half. If they win 8 games, they come in at an 8 9 record, that'd be an under 500 record. As you well know, Joe forton ball is team coaching campaigns with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike Tomlin has, let me conjure my lavar ball. Never. Never lost. Never had a losing season. And that was think about last year with how bad Ben Roethlisberger was at quarterback and he didn't have a losing season. This guy has never won less than 8 games and 15 years coaching this historic franchise. So I look at Mitchell trubisky in 2022 as a physical upgrade over 2021 Ben Roethlisberger. I think he makes with his athleticism that offense more difficult to defend against. They still have nausea Harris. They still have Deontay Johnson and Chase claypool pat fire move your Penn State boy was great as a tight end last year. He should make a second year leap. And this is a team that had a negative 55 point differential last year. And Mike Tomlin still kept in that ship to 9 wins. So I'm sorry, 7 and a half is wildly disrespectful to Tomlin and the Steelers. I'm over that and I think it's my favorite play. I look at the same way I looked at the San Antonio spurs coming into this season. They're win totals like 28 or 29 and a half. And I said, listen, I know Tim Duncan and Tony Parker aren't walking through that door. But Greg Popovich is still the coach of that damn team. And you will put some respect on Popovich's name. What do we know? The spurs, while not being great, have 31 wins and will easily eclipse that mark that they had. So that's the way I look at this steelers team. Even if trubisky gets hurt, somehow, some way, Tomlin will duct tape together 8 wins for that team, even in a difficult division. Yeah, I can tell you that while I might not ride on the over with you, I'm not going to play the under. Certainly not going to play the under against a team like Pittsburgh with that defense and that coaching staff, well run organization. And under I will play is the Miami Dolphins, 8 and a half. I have no confidence in this team whatsoever. I think what's going to happen here is that a lot of people are buying into this clever hire of Mike mcdaniel as the head coach. You know, this guy's really good at winning the press conference with some of the sound bites. We get very excited. And then we see them go out and spend a ton of money in free agency, knowing full well, nobody wins a Super Bowl in March, but they're out there spending tons of cash. And then we see the record from 8 year last year, excuse me. When they won 9 games, and we think, oh, they can get there again. There is so much you need to understand about this dolphins team. First and foremost, yes, they won 9 games last year, all right? They had a -32 point differential, which is more indicative of the 7 win team. First and foremost, they exceeded expectation. That points to regression. Number two, their 9 wins came against 17s that had a combined record of 44 and 75. They didn't beat a single team that went to the playoffs. The only teams they beat that had a winning record were the Patriots and the saints. Now back to Mike mcdaniel, the new head coach. Why is it that we love this guy? He has one year of experience as a coordinator. One, and he didn't even call the plays because that's what Kyle Shanahan doesn't San Francisco. So I think he might be out of his depth. Number two, he's working for a historically inept and dysfunctional franchise that I gotta tell you, that trickles down. All right, it's not like you're gonna get great organizational support from everything we've seen in Miami. And I know everyone's gonna tell me about Tyree kill and how he's gonna be deebo Samuel. Unless he's gonna put on 30 pounds, so he weighs two 15 like debo. He ain't gonna be debo because he's gonna take a few shots and you see how Samuel gets hurt. Tyreek hill is going to get banged up if he is running that football. Plus he just cashed in and he already has a Super Bowl. So I'm wondering how much you get from him anyway. Long story short, don't believe in tua. Don't believe in the coach. Don't believe in the organization. Last year's numbers were propped up because of a fraudulent fraudulent schedule and very fortunate wins. I'm going under on Miami 8 and a half. I hope no one thinks I'm towing the line there. I think I was very definitive of that. But we'll be left for another day because that's a wrap. We've already exceed ten minutes. So thank you for checking us out. He's Tyler fold him. I'm Joe Thornton ball. Daily wagers back, ESPN2, final episode of the week. We're dark tomorrow. So we're covering the final four, the NFL and everything in between. We'll see you there, and we'll see you back here tomorrow morning..

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

05:37 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"I'm Doug Kazarian joined this morning by Joe forton ball. It's like a Friday but on a Wednesday. Yeah, you could say it like that. I'm so stoked. It's obviously we're a day before. Thanksgiving with the tapings here and there's a lot we can cover for the weekend. But as is tradition from each and every year, I will have our action on all three games Kazarian. I do not take a day off when it comes to Thanksgiving. I will play all three games, including the egg bowl. That'll make four. I did not realize that was a fort and bought tradition. Egg bowl, a couple of years ago was my biggest bet of the year and I talked about it on SportsCenter. I was in Connecticut, I got up and emailed producers on Tuesday or Wednesday. I need to do the egg bull pick Thursday morning. I wasn't pad the record. And we got there. We did get there. Was that the one with the fake peeing in the end zone that led to the penalty? The plus one. No. That was the one where it was like -9 and I did have that right side though. So they missed the extra point because the extra but it was the year before that I believe that was like, I was laying like 7, I think, and they won by ten or 13, but it should have been like a 30 point win. But probably won't tell the story otherwise, but it was funny because I just had to get there and I told a bunch of people that you know, one of those, like you tell everyone, this is like your game of the year. Oh yeah. I do not have a game of the year on the 8 ball this year. Maybe you do, we shall see. Let's obviously tomorrow Thanksgiving, a lot going on. I only have one play for the ESPN dot com chalk section. It's going to be probably a pretty popular one, although maybe not incredibly popular because it's split over Thursday and Sunday. But I am going to do the teaser with Dallas and New England. I just love what the Patriots are doing. It's self explanatory, 5 straight wins, 5 straight covers, the defense changing. We talked about it last week playing more zone twice as much as they were before that and they have the best defense. Rating wise in this span. So we'll see what Tennessee off the loss, but they're limited, right on offense. I am a little worried about Dallas, the injuries, no Maurice Cooper. There's chance at CD lamb comes back and raiders will play well at some point. They have too much talent, but they just don't have it right now. Three straight losses, three straight losses, ATS as well. So I think Dallas bounces back from the loss at arrowhead. I like the teams apply. I'll be with you as well, buffalo and New England. Here's a Thanksgiving card for me. We'll start with the morning. I'm leaning to the Lions plus three if Jared Goff plays. I think there's a lot of trouble lurking for the bears. They're a mess this week with are they firing that naggy after this game? Are they not? They've never fired a coach in season before. So I'm leaning to Detroit, but I got to have golf. I don't want to play it with boil. One play I do have Deandre swift over 64 and a half rushing yards. The bears are gonna be without Khalil Mack and should be without akeem hicks when hicks isn't in the lineup, the run defense goes to crap. Three games without him this year. They're giving up a 125 yards per game on the ground. And this is something that if you go back over the last few years, it holds true as well. Swift has been killing it the last two weeks. 47 carries for 266 yards. He averaged 9 yards per carry against the browns last weekend. I like him to go over 64 and a half rushing yards in the first game. Game number two, I'm gonna play the under in that matchup between the raiders and the cowboys. It's sitting at 51 right now. I think that's too high. I think it's too high. I could see the Raiders since the Raiders released Henry ruggs 16 points against the Giants. 14 points against the chiefs, 13 points against the bangles. Their averaging 326 yards per game. The offense has no pop anymore. They don't have rugs to stretch the field and open up Waller underneath. They have been pathetic on offense. Dallas is going to be without Amari Cooper, could be without like you mentioned CD lamb due to the concussion under his cash and four straight cowboys games. So I'm looking at under 51. Dallas might handle their end of the bargain. I'm not expecting a whole lot from the Raiders. In the night game, I'm looking at a couple things here. One prop that stands out to me is Josh Allen throwing an interception. It's minus one O 5. He's had an interception in four of his last 5 games. He's at an interception in four of 5 road games this year. You got the crowd noise. You got short week. You got the pressure to bounce back. New Orleans has 11 picks this year that's 8 most in the NFL. Allen's been forcing The Rock. He's regressed a little bit this season. That colts game was a disaster for him. And as he's feeling the pressure, you get this guy in a third and long. He feels like he has to make it all up with his arm. Sometimes he won't take what the defense gives him. I think he throws a pick in this game. When it comes to the game itself, I do lean to the under. I'll probably play under 46 points. Buffalo off a loss giving up just 9 points per game this season. I think you get a good defensive bounce back. I don't expect a whole lot from the saints offense, but I do think the bills offense could be limited because of the crowd noise the short week and a good saint's defense. So recapping the card real quick, Deandre swift over 64 and a half rush yards early. I leaned in a lion's plus three of golf plays. I like the Raiders cowboys going under 51. I like Josh Allen throwing at least one interception at minus one O 5 and under 46 points between the bills and the saints. All right, so no egg bowl for you. You know, the Lions. Do you want me to throw this? Sorry. I was going to say the lion's bears gains really interesting. Do you think the bears get the win? I am a little skeptical here. No, I don't. That's why I'm leading to the Lions. It boils plays. I'm not going to have anything on the side, but if golf plays, it's not. I mean, I think Dalton's a capable backup. But the thing with this is, I think the lions have known forever. This is the game they could win. The bears are a mess. That's my point..

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

07:06 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"Into the daily wage. Podcasts presented by draftkings america's top rated daily fantasy app. I'm doug kazarian alongside. Joe forton ball on this first day of october. Nobody this is. it's begging we. We missed you on the show. Yesterday we debuted the cores light lounge. If you didn't get a chance to see how some of that looks wait until you get to see it on set. The blue lighting really puts you in the mood a gambling mood not the mood. Some of these sickos out. There might be talking about right not the mood that but nightcap numbers may put you in a yeah exactly with the saxophone and the scotch yes yes all right so big sports weekend. Going on anybody with the survivor. Entry and teasers escaped last night so well done with the bengals in the second. Half i am of that grouping so feeling very fortunate as we head into i wanna get into a play you have for tonight a little bit of friday night lights in the college game when he got yes. I'll take maryland plus three and a half. I talked about it on the show yesterday when it was plus three backup up the plus three and a half so like it even more with the hook. Biggest game for maryland. Football in god-knows-how-long. Friday night under the lights packed house. This is a good terrapins team for no straight up. Three and one against the spread quarterback by to come via low as younger brother tullia. Who's completing seventy five percent of his passes on the season interesting notes for iowa number one. I'm not saying it's a look ahead spot because friday night at maryland. You gotta pay attention. But they do have penn state on deck. That's a huge game. Every year on the calendar for head coach kirk france. in addition. when you're talking about covering three and a half points on the road hostile environment you you're gonna need. Some explosive plays on offense. And i was. Offense has none of that. No explosion whatsoever. I like maryland plus three and a half. I'm going to have a little bit on the money lines. Well yeah could be really interesting. Spot here for the turps. I've mentioned the jokingly. That's true but i don't expect to win and to his brother to win the heisman. Yeah this could be a big one. This could be a big one. We'll see obviously is look for real emphatic win over iowa state in ames earlier this season. But this'll be a big a big test for the hawkeyes to go on the road and then environmentals look ahead to saturday. I think the conversation starts with bam and oldness. It's an afternoon games not at night at bryant denny but still should be an electric atmosphere kiffin and the rebels coming off a bye. I just trust all mrs offense. I mean you're looking at team. Total around thirty one and a half or so obviously got defensive pedigree with sabin there. But i just think the spread offense matt corrales had a fantastic year lanes offensive wizard. I think we get points out of ole miss. Now i think alabama's offense is also dynamic. I do think the rebels cover. But i just feel more comfortable going with the team. Total over for ole miss. I like it. And i hope you get there. 'cause i'm playing all mess less fourteen and a half two weeks to get ready for this game for lane kiffin and the rebels and He saw what florida was able to do this. Alabama defense couple of weeks ago now granted. That was a situation which alabama was on the road. They will be home here. But i can't get last year's game out of my mind and again that was an oxford but lane kiffin and just taken over that program. He had minimal time to work with those kids in the spring due to the pandemic and he hung with obama. They lost sixty three. Forty eight fifteen points all right. This ole miss team is better. And i can't say the same about alabama. Maybe the defense is better. But i don't think the offense is better so ultimately the back doors wide open when you're talking about this explosive of offense and this big a spread almost fourteen and a half. I think they are definitely better. I'm really kind of into this game. I'm excited because this is a good test for obama to will learn a lot about them as well all right. The other big rank vers ranked matchup in the sec. Is arkansas and georgia any opinions. There i have under is sitting at twenty five and a half. I would play that out. You and i talked about this before some of these full game. Unders get blown up in college football because of all types of nonsense. Layton games wisconsin. Notre dame's a perfect example last week under was a deadlock until graham through to pick sixes late in the game. Teams make adjustments that the have teams enter down trailing obviously opened up the playbook a little bit more take more risks on fourth down. I don't want to deal with the second half first. Half under twenty five and a half georgia's got the number one defense in the country. Five point seven points per game allowed three point one yards per play allowed. Arkansas has been outstanding at four. No they're coming off. A huge win against texas am. I wouldn't be surprised if they were a little flat to open this game against georgia's defense because just about everyone struggles against this defense. Conversely arkansas can play a little de as well fourteen point five points per game allowed and they played some heavy hitters. They played am they played texas. It hasn't been a cookie cutter schedule under twenty five and a half in the first half of that matchup between the bulldogs in the razorbacks. I'm a little worried with these under the georgia. Just because their offense has finally putting up points right in the past the anemic and even their all line had some issues at times Just a few times. I bet on them but hasn't but this team looks special. I think them and bam are definitely cut above everyone else right now. That's why i don't believe in college. Football futures with these long shots like notre dame or whatever. I just don't see any of them being able to win two games once the playoffs. Come rolling around. I want to get to the rest of saturday's cards. Well there's a few games that jump out the one. I've sort of picked up late. This week is usc i this colorado teams pretty bad against their three b. bs opponents. They're averaging six point seven points per game and one hundred ninety one yards of total offense those both ranked dead last in all. I think it's tough to play. In the altitude in boulder and the rebel the trojans of obviously had their issues with firing a coach and other. But i think. I don't see how usc doesn't win by double digits. Obviously it's possible but in terms of four four quarters. I have to lay it with usc. Seven and a half. that's the one that jumps out to me. My other one is oklahoma. Look they haven't played a road game yet. they need to kind of get out of dodge reset. The clock k. state just got issues. Obviously their quarterback injury situation. But i think this is a get right spot for ou. There's this a lot to like with the sooners site. I just trust that. They're going to figure it out against the case eighteen. That's pretty limited with relegated to backup. Qb's is numbers trickling up. it's eleven half and twelve. Still lay with the sooners. I think oh you roles and the us he gets there probably late. You know colorado hangs around for a little bit but we get there late. I agree with the us cpac. I think that opened his low at some places at six and a half. it's moved through seven colorado's terrible in the trenches. Us she should have usc. Excuse me should have. Its way so. I agree with that one. I'll throw to more at you going back to the well like last week. Army laying nine at ball state.

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

05:34 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"The daily wager. Podcasts presented by draftkings america's top rated daily fantasy app. I'm doug kazarian alongside joe forton laws. We always together on this friday on these fridays. I should say getting ready for the sports weekend. We've tons to get through. We have on tap as well. Joe alessi barn burner last night in the nfl. We actually had a good game in college. I hope people were able to catch that dramatic ending especially those. You got lucky body. We were on side. You got lucky with that slide at the end lucky. Lucky haiti cap. The situation awareness by app state. It was it was great situational awareness and to be honest You were covering pretty much the whole way there so you did deserve the win late. I kid i was hoping to get that thing through the back door but sliding on the five yard line brutal brutal at app state last those nice to get some money back from the opener with. Ecu say some not a lot. Trust me that was a beatdown. Okay so let's get into the football weekend my favorite side if you will is north carolina and it's numbers trickling up a little bit twelve and a half. I just think hats off to georgia tech incredible effort last week at clemson nearly at the upset that fumble on the goal line but just the entire game defense played well. I think the tank's on empty. I think it's a lot to ask for them to go to this game and hang with carolina who seems to have found it's mojo little bit sam. How five touchdowns. Last week. And i'm not looking i'm not throwing. I'm looking past the performance against virginia tech in the opener lane stadium was shaking. Really tough ask for the tar heels. So that's what we haven't seen a lot of games like unc here minus the dozen or so what about you. Don't get fired up about georgia tech last week. Because they played all full games early in the season. They lost outright to northern illinois. So if anyone wants to give them credit for what they did against clemson make sure your debit him for what happened in that first game against northern illinois favorite side's gonna be army over miami of ohio minds coming down a little bit down to seven and a half so i'm against the move here but i like the fact that he's going gonna come in and run the ball. Three hundred thirty one rushing yards per game this season. That's third in college football. That is miami of ohio's weak spot defending the run there. One hundred ninth in the country in opponent yards per carry getting ready for that triple option. Offense is very difficult. Army does an excellent job of controlling the clock in the tempo. They're averaging forty one minutes per game in terms of time of possession it. Oh by the way the reno forty four points a game. I'll let a seven and a half with army over miami ohio. That's my favorite side. All right good stuff as well i. Let's talk about notre dame wisconsin. Because i'm on the irish here plus six and a half feels a little too obvious if you will or trend. Eva dog. I think that's way too many points on a relatively low total. I did a double take. When i saw this line i was like hey i thought it was still field. Not camp randall. I'm surprised in this much on a neutral site. I think the irish. Obviously they've been playing with fire. Nearly some upsets here. But it's a good dog spot for the golden dome. It's a lot of points to get in. What should be a low scoring game. Is the total continues to drop. And it's a lot of points against notre dame who's found ways to get the job done this season you can knock them all you want for the toledo performance. Maybe they didn't explode on purdue last week but they're finding ways to get the job done. I'm going to play the first half under in that game. Twenty three points and this is something that you kind of ticked me off to an early. Got me to pay more attention to this last week. When you played the first half under in penn state auber i the full game under it still ended up coming in but we see this a lot in college football right two teams come out. They feel each other out. It's a little bit slower early. Think about ohio state. Minnesota big about ohio state and oregon big about penn state and oliver and then in the second half adjustments are made big plays teams taking shots teams going on fourth down all types of stuff. This is such a low total. I don't want to risk the full game because that could happen. In the second half wisconsin's had two weeks to get ready for this game. And the defense shows up early against jack cohn notre dame's defense is great but wisconsin wants to run the ball and grind the clock. I like under twenty three points in the first half of that matchup. No it's something. I've discussed a lot over the years. It just my preference for that doesn't always work out. No it does not. But when you factor in overtime particularly in college and i just feel like the script follows a sous more of an under and i don't think the oddsmakers really adjusted i kind of uncovered something a long long time ago the nba. That the first half had more scoring and that they should be you know about ten years ago or fifteen years ago. They started taxing. The first half totals a little bit higher than the second half and so. I just think it plays out that way. Does it always work like i said. No my favorite play of the weekend is a strange one but you know what. That's something that a lot of our listeners. Have come to expect from me. I'm going to we. First quarter with bama in southern miss. I'm playing the side and the total. I think it's way off bama's minus ten and a half and the total is thirteen and a half in the first quarter. I think it's going to be fourteen or twenty one. Nothing after one bama offense we know it but the one of the key things about saving his his teams. Don't play down to their opponent. We've seen a lot of these upsets. He's won like ninety something straight games as a favourite and more importantly starting against these big spread gains. When it's like thirty eight or more something he always starts fast as teams are all about getting better each day. It's not about just playing to your opponent and even the mercer game a couple weeks ago he had a bunch of three and out. They still got there so.

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"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

04:10 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"We had our house money bets on thursday and friday. Not for me evan. How do we do the great so not surprising. The guy who admits on the show he knows nothing about gambling did really well always happens at first time. You go to vegas having you know. That's that's how they bring it back you know. That's how they built all those casinos and now that giant roomba so key. is currently in the lead key. Bet bet big on the rams over the bears. It was a risky pick forty dollars. He bet to win ten. He went three and although he took Money line on the saints to beat the packers that yeah and then he bet moneyline steelers to beat the bills victims. The way those two gutsy picks. Yeah so keys out a hundred we all started. How did you go money line when when they were. You took the underdog you could have made money. He's taking money line every safe right. No risk okay. That's problem which you people. Well no i did money line do but taking fee. What's that supposed to mean. Currently at a hundred and twenty six dollars eighty cents. That is the lead six twenty so you may twenty six dollars and eighty cents on three bets. Joe forton baugh our friend from from delaware. He was a little more cautious with his bets. So he bet five fifty to win five dollars With the the rams and the bear so he was at one oh five and then. He lost three thirty at one to seventy. he's in second place. How do you max. Thirty three thirty on washington football team plus one so that was a. He lost that because they lost. They didn't cover lost three thirty Max you are at one hundred and fifty eight one hundred dollars and fifty eight cent make money. You won't on the rams. We lost on the bills and the giants. The eight cents. Fifty eight cents. You just want to stay in the by. he's gonna hang around hiker. I looked up on going into the final round. I looked up what i could get for. Fifty eight cents nowadays. I looked up on amazon apple barrel acrylic paint and assorted colors. Two ounce bottles four cents left over they still have quarter water at the delis anywhere. Like i could get two of those eight cents leftover on in the money and j. j. unfortunately Some bad beats j. Ninety two eighty nine year at after losing ten dollars on the tennessee. titans and then Losing five on the on the bills over the steelers but you won seven eighty nine on the rams of the bear. So that's a that's house money and dollars dollars already have probably getting all morning from the bosses. What were you thinking on your tweet tweet about. Usc were you thinking. I've been getting questions about it all morning from the bosses. You have a minute to explain yourself. Well first of all when. I put the tweet out. We were getting smashed in. I was probably a bottle in half in on the tequila. So you already said. We were getting smashed so everyone has gone with some very powerful friends of mine at alum at usc and were sitting in my living room. And just said yeah. I'm pissed and i no longer can fight for him. yes. I fought for him when he was hired in the beginning i jumped on the table for him because at that time i felt like he was the guy that can get us where we needed to. That's what we ran out of time now. Now i'm like come on. That's right just because once you thought you should always think no no i. I like him. Nice guy you know. We start off saying i like him. He's a nice guy always ain't but that's where we're at but gets hot. 'cause you're on the hot seat is what it is. You won't be coming on our show. Amen coach will come on. He'll come he'll come on. Yeah and he doesn't have a problem he understands. He's under the fire keyshawn. J. max is brought to you by mako when life throws you owes just say better get mako and head to make oh dot com to get an online estimate. Today is next. We'll be back tomorrow. Espn radio birth..

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"joe forton" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

04:10 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

"We had our house money bets on thursday and friday. Knock it for me evan. How do we do the great so not surprising. The guy who admits on the show he knows nothing about gambling did really well always happens at first time. You go to vegas having you know. That's that's how they bring it back you know. That's how they built all those casinos and now that giant roomba so key. is currently in the lead key. Bet bet big on the rams over the bears. It was a risky pick forty dollars. He bet to win ten. He went three and although he took Money line on the saints to beat the packers that yeah and then he bet moneyline steelers to beat the bills. The way those two gutsy picks. Yeah so keys out a hundred we all started. Did you go money line when when they were. You took the underdog. You could've made money and taking money line every safe right. No risk okay. That's problem which you people. Well no i did money line do but taking what's that supposed to mean. Currently at a hundred and twenty six dollars eighty cents. That is the lead six twenty so you may twenty six dollars and eighty cents on three bets. Joe forton baugh our friend from from delaware. He was a little more cautious with his bets. So he bet five fifty to win five dollars bomb with the the rams and the bear so he was at one. Oh five and then. He lost three thirty at one to seventy. he's in second place. How do you max. Thirty three thirty on washington football team plus one so that was a. He lost that because they lost. They didn't cover lost three thirty Max you are at one hundred and fifty eight one hundred dollars and fifty eight cent make money. You won't on the rams. We lost on the bills and the giants the eight cents. Fifty eight cents you just to stay in the by. He's gonna hang around hiker masters you. I looked up on going into the final round. I looked up what i could get for. Fifty eight cents nowadays. I looked up on amazon apple barrel acrylic paint and assorted colors. Two ounce bottles four cents left over they still have quarter water at the delis anywhere. Like i could get two of those eight cents leftover on in the money and j. j. unfortunately Some bad beats j. Ninety two eighty nine year at after losing ten dollars on the tennessee. titans and then Losing five on the on the bills over the steelers but you won seven eighty nine on the rams of the bear. So that's a that's house money and dollars. I already have probably getting all morning from the bosses. What were you thinking on your tweet tweet about. Usc were you thinking. I've been getting questions about it all morning from the bosses. You have a minute to explain yourself. Well first of all when. I put the tweet out. We were getting smashed in. I was probably a bottle in half in on the tequila. So you already said. We were getting smashed so everyone has gone with some very powerful friends of mine at alum at usc and were sitting in my living room. And i just said yeah. I'm pissed and i no longer can fight for him. yes. I fought for him when he was hired in the beginning i jumped on the table for him because at that time i felt like he was the guy that can get us where we needed to. That's what we ran out of time now. Now i'm like come on. That's right just because once you thought you should always think no no i. I like him. Nice guy you know. We start off saying i like him. He's a nice guy always ain't but that's where we're at buck gets hot. 'cause you're on the hot seat is what it is. You won't be coming on our show. Amen coach will come on. He'll come he'll come on. Yeah and he doesn't have a problem he understands. He's under the fire keyshawn. J. max is brought to you by mako when life throws you owes just say better get mako and head to make oh dot com to get an online estimate. Today is next. We'll be back tomorrow. Espn radio birth..

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

03:31 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"Joe forton ball ball and joe always talk about key numbers and beating the market. But for those. Who beat the market on teasers and got the one and a half's it certainly rewarded those last night you know. I'm glad we had the opportunity to discuss that on daily wage. I believe it was wednesday because with everything that was taking place you saw sitting and it moved from tampa minus seven and a half to eight eight and a half. You and i had a conversation at the top of the show the importance of making sure that we were not going to be teasing from nine down to three and i hope listeners that at and i hope they continue to learn this process because it feels like you were on twitter last night. There was more conversation about teasers that i've seen in quite some time you and i am obviously mid claims him for a while but for people who are just getting into the water you know ultimately this is new territory for them. So i'm hoping they're learning a little bit and i'm hoping to realizing the idea of teasing through tuckey numbers but to your original point for those who were teaser heavy. We were very fortunate last night with the way that ended in tampa bay. Yeah eliminator pools as well so those who certainly had to sweat it out because this week one was off. But we're gonna talk. We're college here. But we had to kind of put a bow on last night's craziness mean fumble inside the five yard line could lead to a cover all the eight and a half and even pushes on the nines. So wild wild game with a lot of including your first half on mccarthy questionable field goal attempt that almost gave raiding the blocks three points. But let's switch gears a college not quite the hype of ranked matchups like we had last week. But a couple of interesting ones organ at ohio state so as i said earlier the school. That's associated with shoes goes to these shoe. I liked the at least leaned the ducks and the team. Total over here. I think organs can be able to get some points minnesota. just that bad defensively. Let ohio state comeback but oregon does belong in the field unlike the gophers and playing the over here and open fifty eight and a half. It got up to sixty three and a half and it's been sitting there for a few days if you go back to. What ohio state did last week. Thirty five points in the second half when they got their legs under of cj straps debut expected a little bit of a downer in the first half trying to find their way then they exploded the second now. They come home then extra time to prepare their in front of the home crowd. I don't think he offense is going to have a big problem putting a points Drew mathis starting linebacker for oregon is out cave on sibito who should be a top ten pick next spring or the top pass rushers the country. It is ankle rolled up on that fresno game. He's been dated day off throughout the week. It does not look good even if he plays. He's not going to be one hundred percent so ohio state's going to get there is my opinion question is whether or not oregon with the early. Start time here coming across the country get theirs and we watched ohio state last week. They had some problems in the secondary last year. Last week. they gave up over four hundred yards to minnesota and thirty plus points and they oregon will do enough to cover this. I thought it was going to be a little bit more towards sixty eight and seventy So i was a little surprised. Associate that around. Sixty three and a half. The over is going to be the plate for me here. It's all about overreacting or not overreacting to wichita in week one. It's the dilemma. Like eightieth at the be fluid and make the adjustment. Or do you just kind of look at it as a blip on the radar iowa state another example top ten first time ever in the cy rivalry both schools in the top ten. I will stay barely gets by. Nfc school i will. Great against indiana wins by four touchdowns. Eileen iowa here but it's not so much what happened in week..

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"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

04:25 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"We can spend it on any games we want over under whatever joe forton bow fourteen boss. Sorry gave his picks yesterday and now we give ours key go How much money. I'm spending here. That's the question you have a low risk tolerance key or you got a high risk. Got one hundred bucks in seventeen games this year and the regular lose money. Now i say let so so so okay so seventeen. Seventeen weeks seventeen. Eighteen eighteen weeks seventeen games. So should i so. I'm going to spend three bucks or laughing. Cheap cheap no. It's not what you got a gambling problem. Cheap it's your problem. He's only got got seventeen. We pushed keita's. I'm gonna go three books over. I'm going to take the nuance saints over. The green bay packers And i'm gonna spend my three bucks in doing that. So you're taking so you're you're taking spreading again right yeah. I'm taking you going money on monday night. Okay i'm down. I got straight. I got you. I like that. I'm going to take see this problem. You saw hanging around keila. Got me on air raid. Got me a cliff kingsbury. Got all this stuff. And i'm a believer in titans. I'm gonna spend ten dollars. Tennessee's gonna cover ten dollars modest three. That's where they are having market down all right ready for this putting a buck putting a buck on the judge. Ahmed twenty cents. Well you'll see why on the giants the broncos big blue. You really believe in the giants. All that tells you what money line dollar for. The giants. beat the broncos. That's right we got seven. How many things do we get Then we get we get one for the week we make as many as you want. How do you wanna spend your hundred. Yeah okay so now. So so so now. I'm gonna take the rams over the chicago bears. And i'm going to spend forty bucks rams over to bear some of the rich enough for your blood. J just made me sweat back. Because i think in terms of everything easy for me. That's that's layer. That's easy money. that's what else. I want to mess with man. What else do i want to mess with that. You know. i'll take the bucks over the cowboys on the money line. If i put one hundred bucks on that one. How much talks over. Cavan mark me down. I'll go. I'll go three dollars. Moneyline panthers over two jets. Just so i can text you in jab you the whole weekend. We loan each other money. If we run out all say you know that game is going to be on in my house and you are going to be getting text message. That's why their tax measure. That is the throw of the first quarter. That is the throw of the second quarter of the first of the every. Every wilson turnover. You're going to be getting calls tex. I'm gonna go. Am i to any turnovers four touchdowns no tournament gonna spend five bucks. And then i'm done. So what does that that. He's just spent forty three dollars. So then if i spend enough westbound forty three dollars so forty eight. Let me let me spend five bucks on the pittsburgh. Steelers going up to ralph wilson stadium. That's route being rothlisburger going in and upsetting josh allen. I'm gonna just even it out in college and spent five bucks five bucks on you know what and i'll put five the other way. I liked the bills over the steelers in week. One we get a little action there you would we get a little in there. Why not what else you got. J i m s. When i'm done. I just want to sit back and enjoy the i. I wanna get to know who teams are so. I can make better bets the second weekend. Run out of money. I got to you. Got me ten dollars. Us live. Maybe five each ten games..

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"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

Behind the Bets

06:59 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on Behind the Bets

"Welcome the daily wager. Podcasts presented by draftkings america's top rated daily fantasy app. I'm doug kazarian alongside. Joe forton ball as we are officially one day away from the nfl. Season so joe just a little little sprinkle of baseball and such. But we're gonna have some football tomorrow. I'm glad you mentioned that for people who are interested in six point teaser. Plays keep an eye on that tampa bay line because right now at minus eight. It's a good teaser. Number you can move it through seven through three and take it down to tampa minus two and a half minus two. Excuse me but for those. Who are teasers. You need a second team to cover a leg as well. She can take a team like the rams from seven and a half down to one and a half gotta win both legs. The one reason. I bring this up now. Is that of tampa. Bay gets up to nine. Which could possibly happen teaser. Protection from the books that would mean you're teasing onto the key number of three from minus nine down to three so keep an eye on that you might want to get ahead of the teaser market today. If in fact that number gets tonight. I'm right there with you. I was talking to respected better in town yesterday. And it's just like you see the cowboys when game. I personally cannot obviously anything's possible in a league of parody. But for me it's going to be a lot of teaser legs. I know you've been talking about it all summer. Well let's talk about today's card. I'm going around things out with the wnba. But i wanna talk about this giants team and they just keep winning. Tyler's best bit but yesterday now faded a bad pitcher a little bit tougher pitching matchup here but all in all. I'm just going to ride these giants. They get wins. They get the pitching they need them to go. I five minus a half. Even money wouldn't go against you on that. at all. The one thing. I noticed though is that number is dropping. I think the giants were somewhere around minus one fifty minutes once a five. It's come down around minus one forty not advising anyone to bet the rockies. But i know declaw funny for the giants as an excuse me a little bit shake year over the last month plus the season something to keep in mind like i said certainly not betting the rockies. I can see where you're going with. The giants just wanted to get that dug it out. There sounds good. What what catches your eye on the diamond all right. So there's two they're ugly brace yourself number one is going to be the marlins plus one. Oh one against the mets marlins at home here sandy outcome. Tara is going to be pitching for miami. He's been consistent. Two were fewer earned runs in five of his last seven starts. And he's got a dramatic split difference between his home and his road appearance on the road this year. Four point three four. era opponents hitting about to sixty off but at home the drops by two points two point three four opponents hitting less than two hundred point one nine six. He's been fantastic at home. Miami six three over the last night home games the mets to and five in their last seven games at miami i like the marlins year plus wanna won the second game is going to be the cubs plus one ten against the cincinnati reds. Two teams headed in opposite directions as of late and cubs have won seven of eight. They've also won six straight against right handed. Starters cincinnati has dropped seven of ten like the worst possible time of year. Because you're in a playoff chase right now cubs are going to send the righty. Alex mills to the mound. Two or fewer earned runs in seven of his last nine starts. He's been better the second half of the season pre all star break. Era was just under five post. All-star break three point six four so he's been much more consistent for the cubs for cincinnati. They're gonna turn the writing vladimir guerrero now adidi errands. Excuse me the cubs. Beat him back on on august seventeenth so manhattan success before but what you want to note. Is that good erez over his last two outings very dice took on the marlins and the tigers gave up. Eight earned runs over his last six one third innings pitch so essentially. I'm playing a hot pitcher against a pitcher who's really struggled as of late cubs plus one ten over the reds marlins plus one one over the mets are good stuff in my apologies for not wishing you a happy matt. Harvey day earlier in the podcast herschel. Kazarian harvey's pitching. I'm going royals team. Total over just blind a blind fire so back to this one right. there was a stint. I think it was the end of july. When harvey was outstanding he made restraint starts in which he gave up a grand. Total of zero runs over eighteen and a third innings pitched right. The dorrell's won all three of those gains. Since those three starts harvey's made six starts. The orioles have lost. All six of those games harvey's owen foreign that stretch. Er a six point five two so keep that in my is back to being matt harvey. We were betting against earlier in the season. One note on this game against the royals weather in the forecast at camden yards today. I think it's a forty five or fifty percent chance of rain. Right before i pitch an inter first pitch and then i believe about an hour into the game jumps up around seventy percent your chance of precipitation so file that one away you might not get it. Completed game could have some issues there just something to know then. Obviously as we all know all over unders. I'll run line bets. All team totals are all void if that is the case all right. That's going to do it for us. We'll have plenty of hold on any wnba today my apologies. What what is going on. I got to documents this morning. That's where my focus is joe. I like the links plus four against the aces. There's just something off with this vegas team. But now by off i mean just non dominant links always get up for these big games. I just trust him more in this spot. I touched on it yesterday. And daily wage although the storm where my best bet at minus ten to twelve. Ats at home all season now. Three and twelve. But i just think there's a kind of an on off switch with some of these top contenders now. The links are now contend of the connecticut sun odyssey contender but we entered the season with a storm in the aces. I wonder if there's reading the press clippings a little bit waiting for that playoff stretch. But i expect this to be really tight game links or live dog for sure. So i'll i'll grab before points with minnesota and now we have all gotten our wednesday. Wnba stay the days complete. We got we need to do. It was a little little little unexciting yesterday to monster blowouts from the tip yesterday in the w so it happens but tonight links aces anonima company. Man that's on. Espn two nine pm eastern so from the old las vegas strip aces and links playing. All right that's going to do it in and out ten minutes like we always promised good stuff tomorrow. We'll have tons of coverage for leading into that one as well. I will not be on the pod. But i don't all teasers on the tampa bay bucks football podcast tomorrow. It'd be on the bed sawyer breaking down the entire season. Alright that's gonna do it. Enjoy your hump day..

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"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

02:22 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"Joe forton are in for max kellerman. The nineties as i said earlier with best decade of music. Eighties the worst. This song is perfect. Example joe because it was actually written in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight may knew that american society was not ready for it. They weren't ready to walk five hundred miles so they held it until nineteen ninety-three when society had advanced to where songs like this would be considered and given the love that they deserve. Because that's normally what we do here in america when we have something good we sit on it and way. We don't look to make five capitalize on. We're just gonna sit on it and wait. How can you be so critical of the eighties when they gave us. Prince and michael jackson. Like right at the rushmore. I'm with you. And you can even probably throw madonna in their right. But then that's it they got those three and then the eighty said the rest. Everything you else else. You get is terrible. And that is the trade us. The beastie boys camp eighties but their best album was in the nineties. Which was the one was sabotage whose name. I can't remember paul's boutique. That's a whole different segment. That you and i are about to get into that right now. It's eight eight eight say. Espn jeff darlington. Joined us on. The goodyear hotline earlier and goodyear helps you discover the road ahead. Goodyear is more driven. We got folks on the phone that array to argue with it. I just want to say no. I don't know how people are across the country. Joe but when i when i was a kid and listening espn radio. I always wondered like what is the glamorous life. These hosts are living like. Where are they doing this show. Is it like in a palace of gold and just so you know well. That's what i thought because you thought look it's it's this big thing. I am sitting outside a restaurant in lexington and it is about to rain. And i'm having to hold my hand over the microphone so everybody can hear the wind is blowing and there are people driving by throwing things at me. You see that. That's the win. When i don't hold it up so i just want people to notice that even now on. Espn we all do things. Our own way. And it's not as glamorous as you might be led to believe well we're gonna make do we're gonna make do between i love it. This is what makes eighty nine. The max chose presented by progressive insurance eight say. Espn on the dr pepper call. Line matt is in michigan. I think matt is about to make a good point. I can just tell by looking at his name matt. What are.

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"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

07:21 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"Straight talk wireless joe forton bob. I know you're excited about the jameis winston as the starter for the new orleans saints on opening day versus the green bay packers. You and i've worked together over the years you know. I don't think there's more overrated player in the nfl and tastes them hill. So to me this was a complete slam dunk. Was it to you. it was it was jameis. Winston is in a fantastic bilo candidate. And what i mean by that is. He's twenty seven years old. He's a former number one overall pick. He doesn't have any serious debilitating injury history. He led the league in passing just two years ago. We've seen the upside and we know what the issues are. Maturity has been an issue at times. Turnovers have been a problem at times. But he's been in the new orleans system sitting for a year and now he has an opportunity to step into a good offense with a very smart offensive minded head coach and jump start his career and if he's taken the process seriously and he's taken that next step mentally and behaviorally which i believe he has. He's going to have an excellent chance to rehab his career matt currently plus seven fifty to win comeback player of the year tied with chris. Half ry yeah tie with christian. Mccaffrey joe borough right behind. Dak prescott press gots obviously going to have the narrative all season long but he could still be battling that latched strength throughout the course of the season. But it's going to be an interesting five week. Stretch to start the year for new orleans hosting green bay at carolina at new england hosting the giants at washington. And then you have a bi week so you have five week window there to make some noise to take some progress progressive steps and put yourself in the driver seat for the rest of the season. There are no steps that would make me play taste hill. I mean my i. I've never understood the fascination with them hill and it really comes down to this for me. I always judge things by okay. What would the other teams do. And i am a hundred percent convinced. None of the other thirty one teams would start. Tastes meal none. Because for whatever reason sean payton just feels better about him than everybody else. Quarterbacks like him don't play in the nfl quarterbacks like him are all sort of gimmicky and gadget e and even though he showed last year he can do a little bit more at times. He's not an nfl. Starting quarterback now jameis winston. We're going to see. I agree with you though. I think the narrative on him has always been negative or at least in the last few years understandably. And then tom brady goes and takes a team to a superbowl which makes that narrative even harsher. But it's the best chance you have and the fact that it continues to be an argument to play case meal. I mean there were people. Joe who who talked about planning when drew brees was there and i i mean drew brees a hall of famer. Why do you think people have this sort of tastes them hill. Or at least sean payton has. It tastes love affair in his brain that he should be on the field. I think i think there's two parts to that question because what is peyton. Think and then what do people think who like him. I think for the people who are intrigued. It's because sean payton who's had so much success in the nfl. Who's one of the more successful offense minds in the league. If he's endorsing hill people are going to get behind that. Because they trust sean payton peyton likes them. Probably because he's seen the trend in recent years where quarterbacks have become more mobile. They've become dual threat their ability to roll out play action bootleg and to create multiple avenues in which they can even throw it down the field. They could dump it off over metal. They check it or they can run has created an entirely new dynamic for how to run your offense. It's why the niners went after a guy like trae lance especially justin field because he's a dual threat right. That's what we saw so or at least pay was looking at hill thinking this could be the guy but the one he was missing is the ability to drop back and complete passes on a consistent basis. He's not a great pocket. Passer quarterback you have to have that. I and for winston. I think it's very telling that as much as eight loved hill. Still going with winston. I think that's a lot and remember last year in that playoff game. The tampa bay. Here's the only successful offense drive for. Most of the game for the saints was than stepping on the gadget play and connecting. On a big touchdown. Drew brees was able to do very very in that game and he was getting older he was going. It's very tough defense. That limited patrick mahomes just a few weeks later. So it's not all on breeze but ultimately winstons the guy he shown it he's demonstrated it. And sean payton giving him. The endorsement over taste and hill says a lot. Considering how much payton has like till over these last few years. I just i've never understood. It seems completely obvious to me. You would play jameis winston. I know i like the saints this year. I think there are over under his nine. A total depends on where you half or nine. Those are both out there. I like i like them at nine nine and a half is a little closer for me but i like them at night especially if you look at that schedule i think it's a schedule where they can do damage. You mentioned those five games. You start off three and two. I think though actually ended up in good shape. That's straight talk. No com straight. talk straight. Talk wireless no contract. No compromise joe. I don't know that. I've sent with you on a show for the last month. Where there hasn't been some talk about dak prescott and now we are back to that prescott. He's off the pitch count. He strained shoulder and july and miss. He's gonna miss all the preseason but he's going to play buccaneers seven and a half point favorite in week one. i've been watching hard knocks. It's been unbelievably boring in my mind to be quite frankly. I don't know how you could be boring with the cowboys. Except for that. Drone shot pool drone shot away except for the drone shot. There has been absolutely nothing. That i have found interesting in the world on this entire thing but i am interested in dak prescot because i think a lot of narratives will be answered this year based on how he plays you expect him to come back as good if not better than ever. I don't. I don't think it's gonna take some time if he's going to get back to a spot where he's going to be playing at a high level because i think he's in a bad situation. Let's just look at the way things out. He suffers a big time season ending injury last year in week. Five that right there indicate he is only played. Five games under head coach. Mike mccarthy so we've got wonder are those two on the same page does mccarthy know-how allies dak prescott. This prescott know best. How to work with within the confines of the mccarthy offense that's number one so that's going to take some time number two no reps what's all all in the preseason now if you were opening your year against houston fine but you're opening your year offer day on the road against team like tampa bay. That has an elite defense that is going to be extremely challenging extremely challenging. So i think prescott has a chance to get off to a very tough start. Because after they go to tampa they gotta go to los angeles to play the chargers. That's illegible game. And then your home for divisional match up against philli. Things could turn on the cowboys in a hurry. Here's my question. Eight eight eight say. Espn the maximum and show were presented by progressive insurance. I would like to hear. Do you expect that prescott. Come back and be player. He was to.

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"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

07:28 min | 1 year ago

"joe forton" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"The way we saw do last night. Although albeit against backups philadelphia eagles. I think his team could be good. They're good defense. They're going to have a great run game. they're going to protect. And if you can do all those things and cam. Newton can allow you to win compete to win. The afc east compete to be in the play offs. I don't necessarily think you have to rush back jones into the starting lineup. All right so let's work our way west to chicago. Where andy dalton's on a one year ten million dollar deal currently looks like he's a starter but just in fields the first round pick out of ohio state turn some heads and that opening preseason game against miami. If you're matt nagy chicago bears. How would you handle this quarterback situation. I'm not really sure why. We're having a conversation. If matt nagy and i understand that i needed to draft justin feels because well the quarterback i had before it wasn't very good and then had to go out and get a bridge quarterback andy dalton. I wanted justin feels to start as soon as he's ready when i look at this situation. This situation to me is much like the matt. Flynn russell wilson situation max. Lynn at the time was a solid quarterback. Coming from backing up in green bay. But he wasn't great and russell. Wilson comes into the preseason and outplays wilson shows that it has a strong arm that he's more athletic and they understand playing russell. Wilson early gave them a better chance to win them paying playing max linn just because you gave him a contract just because they're just because some people in organization might trust him and for me if i'm matt nagy. If justin feels plays well if he shows promise if we progress him throughout the season if our team is competitive. That's the way to show that my job should be attack that i should be the coach going forward playing with andy dalton missing the playoffs. Having another defensive year wasted is not the way to show. The chicago bears organization. That's you should continue being the head coach ryan clark. Espn nfl analyst. Joins us via the goodyear hotline. Here on the max kellerman. Show courtney cronin. Joe forton sitting from acts on this friday afternoon. Few things made me want to tear. My. we've out more than uncertainty in position battles. That should not have any uncertainty as if on cue after daryl devil the offensive coordinator in jacksonville said that trevor lawrence would probably start saturday against the saints and the preseason opener. He's out there with the twos running the second team offense. His debut was whatever i mean. He got sacked. The offensive line is what it is in jacksonville but do you think that some of this comes down to coaching. Because i don't really like the way that they're handling this with the guy that they drafted number one overall to be your franchise quarterback in just the way that they've been handling it through the preseason. Well what else is. I'm excited that you're just tear your we've out not your actual hair. Don't want any injuries or things like that happening. I think when you when you look at it and the the holistic handling of the jacksonville jaguars and they've had some press conferences with urban meyer. He's adjusting to pro football. He's adjusting to coaching pro football. This is a guy who's been a lifelong college coach and the bank. Good one by the way but this started with the draft. There isn't a player that was drafted by the jacksonville. jaguars or picked up as a free agent. That wasn't a four or five star high school recruits right. that's ohio state florida mindset. We want the highest level athlete. And so now in dealing with you know in dealing with preseason urban meyer was wondering why don't we call the good place. And so. I think everything in jacksonville is kind of a work in progress and so the other thing is going to issue has been a good starter. If you did a side by side of to blank faces and you put up garner menchu stats and baker. Mayfield that the thing is you could pick either one of them and it could be either one of those guys because their stats are basically exactly the same and right. Now we're talking about whether or not baker mayfield is going to get a huge contract at this season so i can understand the hesitation when you think you have a guy that can play but is it trevor lawrence supposed to be like a transit talent. Are we hear words. Like and i mean names like andrew luck and names like superman. We're told i mean. That's that's what i i mean. I don't agree with that. But that's what the people say and so if the people say that. And that's what you feel and that's why you drafted him at that point. What confusion should there be. You play them. You get him. Ready is your franchise guy for the next decade and a half and there's no reason to wait to give him his opportunity ryan in the bay area. There's a lot of excitement about trae lance eventually taking over at quarterback for the forty niners but two years ago jimmy garoppolo who is still on the roster did help guide this team to a super bowl appearance against the kansas city chiefs. So what do you think. Kyle shanahan thinking right now as to how to handle this. He says it's garoppolos job. But how long do you think he's gonna ride with him. I think it'd be rob job as long as they're winning. And i wouldn't have said that necessarily before the first time i watch trae lance but you know we we. We saw tun of the huge play. On the crossville throwback right under booth and there was a very good through. I mean if floated a little bit but it was fine but he was very inefficient throughout that game He missed some open completion to held the ball in the pocket. A little bit too long. He looked like a dude who had only played one game over year. He looked like a guy who had the least amount of passes thrown or at least amount of opportunity to play of the top four quarterbacks that would draft it. He looked like a dude who didn't necessarily play against grade competition in college. And right away. I say that that dude. You just name all of those things. Ain't better jimmy garoppolo right now. And so as much as i was pushing for trae lands could play when he was drafted because i was listening to adam schefter to that. He was brilliant. And he's all these things. Quincy every his quarterback trainer loves him as well. I believe in quincy betrays not already right now and this is a team. That could be really good. Great coach great run game very good defense. And i don't think you play trae lance until he's ready and i thought they were full of crap when they said maybe twenty twenty two twenty twenty three. Who knows now ryan clark. Espn nfl analyst. Joining us here on the max. Kellerman show quarterback. We haven't broached yet today. Zach wilson when. He's not fan blowing over. Aaron rodgers during these joint practices marks from his teammates. And obviously they need some good news right now. Losing kara lawson two ruptured achilles was was really really tough. I think for this defense. But when you look at the flip side of that offensively. He looked pretty in meetings. Wilson looked pretty efficient in that opener. What do you anticipate wanting to see from him to know you'd be comfortable. Obviously moving forward means presumptive starter. But what do you need to show in this. Preseason game against green bay. I liked what i saw From watson in the first game also liked what i saw from the new york did. This is a team that was run. I while zach wilson was in the game. They opened a game. The first pass was a boot He was extremely smart and third down situations to go to corey davis that do acquisition in free agency He looked poised The the ball came out with her lasi He was deficient In his bank. So i think what zach was good..

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