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PMS 2.0 113 - Matt Hasselbeck, Joe Flacco, & Some Incredible Conversation

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

1:11:11 hr | 10 months ago

PMS 2.0 113 - Matt Hasselbeck, Joe Flacco, & Some Incredible Conversation

"Hello it is Friday October. Fourth Two Thousand Nineteen Co host Matt Hasselback today we dive in everything and Friday bangers when I say this I mean this. There's some incredible stories from a lot out of Matt's past and also Joe flacco makes an appearance. Are you kidding me by the way beat get incredible. Joe flacco makes makes an appearance on today's show. I forgot all about that out of nowhere. Also out of nowhere maybe make a decision today. That's going to improve your life decided to go see a live event and when you do that you only go to one ticket buying platform and that seek the greatest ticket buying platform on planet earth and Lou that's right if you're GONNA get tickets on the moon or on planet earth to go through seekie cacique scans all the banged platforms and make sure you're getting the best tickets at the best value back today have tickets to concerts. Yes they do have tickets to theaters YEP. 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Just something talked about that's not true Rex's the actually the only person that didn't hit a target that day Beila immorality through one impressive throws by the countdown crew so so Adam Schefter was actually aiming for the second plate and hit the third place but I do that in pool like I just you know swing and when you know took the billions whatever pocket goes on doesn't count it to me again. Now you come you don't come into my pool hall and do that Bullshit Bullshit where he just knocking balls in that doesn't me portion. That was the thing in the no look pass. It was kind of like whatever it was a great throw by you. They didn't pick it up on camera stuff yeah. They don't get a lot of promo there but schefter art is so blind like he can't see without his glasses that even if he was staring at the targets there's no chance he could see twenty yards away like no chance what's that Ovar was twenty yards up. WHO's far pretty far when I say this I mean it's your throw? Look good ZIP on it. Thank you a little little to it early in the morning. Why don't you go play quarterback for the Minnesota? Vikings seems like they've got a guy that everybody hates. I don't I don't like you're saying that and I'm just telling you what is happening and can I tell you because you have been so deep in this. Ecu Temple game. I have been what's going on in the outside world to I go hibernate for two days for this college thing I come out of it and then I get back on track with. NFL and I'm very thankful you do that because I'm the complete opposite. I don't even peak at the so you temple game. I am so surrounded by everything else happening. In the world in the Minnesota Vikings. Just a small little team in the middle of America is garnering a lot a lot of headlines due to the drama that is happening around their team. Stefan digs yesterday at a press conference. That's it there is something to the rumors that he asked to be traded raided but he's not gonNA speak on that which you just did you literally just not as you just spoke on and we in real time on the show yesterday figured figured out that the reason why Stefan digs is upset because kirk cousins on the kirk cousins show which we are avid listened to that big fans we love the kirk cousins on the Minnesota Vikings Dot com website. He talked talked about how Adam feeling is the best player. He's the best wide receiver. He's one of the best players in league asking him the Baltimore. He apologized Adam dealing because after the Game Adam theline had emotional in response rate that we have to be able to throw the ball he's wasn't Shana. Kirk cousins brought since whatever the cases Savan digs listened to the kirk cousins show just like we did it was like wait a minute this guy talking about Adam feeling being the best brand team Dunham's. Amy Throat ship them either so now he skipped practice on Wednesday. Then Thursday comes back and says yeah. There's something me WanNa be traded. This is wild wild situation than I have never. I don't think I've ever been around. I'm not sure if you have been around a long time. People just not showing up to work is an insane thought to me. That is a new thing it is it really is a new thing and it's it sounds like Stefan. Digs is not backing off of it either conference. He wasn't like the APP sorry. I didn't come yesterday trade rooms our ally he was like yeah. There's something to it. I'm just not going to talk about it so he's like building it up even more that vikings team and it all surrounds around you like that guy right more within that though like if you're a wide receiver Mike Zimmer was that week one how many passes did kirk cousins even attempt was in like ten. Can somebody fact check twelve. What what are your ten for twelve so if you're a wide receiver and your they've got good wide receiver Steph Haydock to write and Stefan Digs Adam thelander two of the best receivers in my mind? They're very a good receivers talented. They've got good tight ends and your head coach is a defensive head coach and he's saying we don't WanNa we don't WanNA throw the ball and in week one you you've been working all offseason to have this great year. You get big money quarterback that can put up yards. He's proven that year after year when he's put up like four thousand yards how many years in a row like four years in a row kirk cousins check the facts now yup completed passes in the NFL so listen Daza fifty thousand two thousand eighteen four thousand plus. Thank you thank you but you have a head coach well what happened. Is he listening. So you have well listen. Here's what happened two years ago go three years ago. They were good Mike Zimmer good offensive line play right. Yes I'M GONNA screw this up okay because of the temple on me journalistic and basically into this Mike Zimmer knows that the pass protection is key his defense and pass protection key. You can't get a sack on a running play so he's like was listen. We want to run the ball. I WANNA. I WanNa Throw it twelve times a game last year. In the middle of the season they went up to Monday night football and played the Seattle Seattle seahawks. I raised the twelfth man flag that was cool by good piece content. That might be why the seahawks defense played so well. We need more saying people eighty percent of people are saying what happened was the offensive coordinator John D. Filipo called the game like a normal. NFL Game Little Pass a little run. Mike Zimmer said No. I told you to run the ball. I fire you. He fired his offense coordinator. The next day Tuesday fired him fired gone because I said run the ball so the new offensive offensive coordinator deeper than I thought this Guy Kevin Stefanski another young bright offensive mind great in the passing game he's he's listening to your the offense coordinator interim and you can be the offense coordinator next year two if you buy into my plan which is run the ball so what's eighty week. One Kirk cousins throws twelve passes completes ten of them. If you're a wide receiver on that team that's been working hard all year all off season Stefan Digs Adam thiel and you're frustrated and you won the game fine so like you're not going to say anything so the frustration is there. You're not going to say anything but now son. You're losing games. You lost to Chicago Badly Adly Burton and they were like you know what I think that that stems stems from it and what you mentioned to me to. There's a there's a there's something to massaging sort of like finessing what your words are publicly like on a radio show. Yes I think her cousins has been very honest and very self deprecating. I like the accountability where he apologized about it but the challenges at some point you can overdo or do it in offend somebody else by accident. which is what I think happens in and I have done that also right? I have done that by accident. I got Kinda sold out by by by TV announcer. They asked me one year they said okay. It's third down. Who'd you know who you're going to a critical moment? This was the announcers for the broadcast in our production meetings YEP right which by the way I didn't happen to happen on every game. That's crazy to me. I played. NFL for eight years. I had no idea they so they. You know so they'll invite guys in so so in this case it's a former quarterback that's calling the game and he says all right a third and seven who you go into critical situation games on the line and I had had a guy that I had played with a long time in Bobby Ingram. He's now coaching tight ends with for the Baltimore Ravens and we had a bunch of other guys that were good players but they were new due to our team and I said to him again. This was a mistake on my part. I said Oh I'm looking for Bobby Ingram. I go I go. He's my first choice second choice in my my third choice. Well did it there over exactly I was trying to throw a bone to a guy that had been on our team that was shorter a slower than the guys he was competing with that I felt the scouts and the GM they were trying to replace. They're trying to kick a out with the old regime in with the new guys that are like taller faster better at the combine but this is a football player. This is Bobby Ingram Semi Guy Yup and so when I said that this TV announcer used used it in the broadcast when I asked Hasselbeck yesterday who is looking for in a critical take down on third down he's looking for Bobby Ingram one two and three so now the other receivers they're upset the S. and they should be upset and because it wasn't really true I was just really trying to be complimentary towards Bobby Ingram and in the process I offended really good players and I forget who it was that year but it could have been guys like nate. Burleson Joji are vicious gather very good players in for sure they just were newer to our team upsetting to hear especially when through a third party in high in so I've learned that lesson the hard way like I I screwed up. I screwed up. I didn't really feel that way okay. I was trying to throw a compliment to one guy and by accident. I did somebody else and so two you just hearing that for the first time what you're telling me Kirk cousins how how he apologized to Adam thiel and what he said Phelan Stefan digs are very good receiver and wouldn't surprise me if that was like really dude well and compounded with your your team him as a philosophy to not throw the ball in your watch and see and I think that and that's the bigger thing that the fact that Mike Zimmer's defensive head coach that has a a mindset set for how he wants to do it out and he's he has the right to do that. He's the head football coach but you've got a lot of money in high draft picks tied up in you know tight end wide receiver quarterback and so it just an odd pairing to to have it what it is such an interesting. Do you think Kirk will learn from this office I I. I actually think that Kirk cousins is a better leader than people realize I really do. What is this? What is it that aspect talking? I mean he would know more than I would but kirk cousins fucking stinks. He's he's a Green Bay packers. I also watched him play in in college too. Okay I wa. I just I don't know I I don't maybe know he fucking stink back two billion dollars yeah. We'll see any took less money to go to Minnesota. There were teams the New York jets yeah we saw a lot more money to be their quarterback and he took less money. Who are the quarterback Mona Tate with him? Nick foles Brian Hoyer drew stanton it was like all NFL quarterbacks at Michigan State. I don't think that you know he was drafted. People sometimes forget he was drafted to the Washington redskins when rg three was drafted. Oh yeah this is why the this is what I say he was always like the savior in Washington Washington when rg three wasn't doing well we got her cousins and then he got in and he did okay but I did good for the redskins. There are bad organization. He's always gotten a pass and then when you get eighty four million guaranteed. There's is an expectation that comes now granted. That's when the passes out the window once you make a lot of money the critique and the criticism is going to go nuclear but has to yeah fat. I mean that's just comes with the position. I think the thing for him where he needs to get over the hump. He's got a he's got to do. He's got to play at the level that he's played for the last four years in big games yeah. He looks scared but but again I think it goes back to head coach Philosophy Changing Coordinators Changing Teams Coaching Staff. It's very interesting to me. Let's we'll get past that Stefan digs did not stop the drama no escalated it proper like he's is a good guy like I know these guys Stefan Good Guy Adam. Feeling good guy didn't feel it but I don't feel great guy. Another thing about Adam Keelan is that he is like he looks a certain way right so you like almost like have a prejudice towards him like oh well. He's going to be this kind of a guy. He's a hothead like he's a he's a he's a wide. He's an elite wide receiver in every freeway like he got into that trash talking with Bill Belichick. He gets hot outside pot. He yelled at me for Ms Down The Bahamas. Oh Yeah we were teammates me and him took on Dell. Oh Curry and Chris Paul in alternate-shot situation and Dell Curry Scratch Golfer Chris Paul was struggling but every the time we thought we had Dell Curry and Chris Paul on the on the ropes Dell Curry would hit this fucking incredible shot crystal would hit a great shot in a four foot putt or three foot PUTT and I just missed it you know and I just felt the is just looking for madame feeling and I was like Oh my God this guy just three hundred and fifteen yards. He a great golfer he is very intense but he is a competitive native individual additive that was on me. It was a battery battery my cat he was four or five whiskies. Don't don't over Polish is you're. You're you're you have a question for that. You talked about that earlier. What did you do to kind of make that situation right or did you do anything or how did you find out that you'd wrong? I've fed those guys the ball like when I realized Oh my God these guys hate me dom. There's an art again. There's an art to making sure everyone's is getting their touches like you understand what guys need. I mean even at one year I played Oh. Is that why Tom Fed in early. I believe yes exactly classroom. Open guys were opened. Philip outdoor set was open. Julian Edelman was open and he was he made a point in that first quarter when Abe was on the Patriots to feed him the ball and I said that was was a good idea because you know a B. personality. He just wants to be involved if he's not involved. He's just do it yeah. He's potentially a nuclear bomb if he's not involved in the Patriots showed why they were smarter than everybody else literally I drive. They just throw them four ball boom boom boom here you go in for the rest of the game by the way they didn't target them that much now. Antonio Brown was but again that goes to the quarterback. He's you got the ball in his hands of the play. Calls weren't any different guys were open and then he was like okay got that done and there's an art to feed in the ball. I was going to say I've played with Jerry Rice at the end of his Korea electric interviews tailgates but listen put rice aronie but knowing him like knowing what he's used to. He needs to get touches. He needs to get the ball in his hand doesn't have to be like downfield throat. He just needs to get a rhythm in the game in certain guys are that way and you gotta know it. Eh quarterback like I would think Stefan digs is a similar type player. Adam feeling is a similar player. They need to feel involved in the game. Calling twelve passes completing ten of them because you add cow Rudolph in there too so it's three very talented were human IRV SMITH IRV Smith second round tight end and so you start doing the math that's only like two potential opportunities the each of them for the entire game at what point you shit can't Zimmer then because what he he is trying to do is completely different than what your organization yeah. It's a and how does that happen by the Way Between Organization coaching philosophy I think they learned the hard way with their offensive line and it was actually through a tragedy. Tony's BARRANCO was their offense of line coach really the only like I would say on a coaching staff you put it together and maybe there's a a few guys with offensive line background. If you guys quarterback background tight end background the way that staff was set up. I think Tony Soprano was really like the o line guy and then tragically tragically. He passed away right before the season started and they just it shook that team like they didn't. I think Tony Soprano's a great leader like as a coach he's also a great leader and like that void was evident and and sometimes when you're looking at it globally you look at the teams with what you WanNa be at your identity you as an offense as a team you WANNA play ferocious depressant defense and have a good run game and I just think that that's a good recipe but it's just interesting because you've got more of a cut at least quarterback with wide receivers. Maybe it's not the right fit for that. it'll be exciting to see what happens to Vikings. Look like it's all about the how dare but they've got a great new tasks. This is like the true tests is like what kind of leadership and what kind of a unselfish play and that kind of stuff okay. Let's go back to what you said about that guy selling you out on TV TV yeah. The was an accidental thing in high suicide guys will sex Amir yes but it was due to it sounds like Dan fouts swell. It was a it was an analyst so to this day. We don't have a lot of female analysts in college for in professional football and that's probably coming. It should become an Idaho aww qualified people that could do. I agree completely. I agree completely but you told me something. I think it was last week like Hey you said that I didn't do anything but something to remind or remember is protect those production meetings and tech people that tell you stuff and that's definitely because you got sold sold out by a guy you said something. Actually I heard it but I don't know if it was you said like one of the coaches said you said something like Oh. This guy's is got a strong leg but this ball could go anywhere like Senate from my opinion. Your perspective just happen to I agree with the coaches coaches perspective yeah so I was just yeah. I was protecting you protecting him yeah but that's a real thing because we learn this stuff in these production meetings and it's like all right what say what can't we say and then because if you lose their trust your they're never tell you anything again and then they don't do the meetings. It's a very interesting balance of It's really like I'll just say you know one of the coaches. This happens a lot but one of the coaches told US basically the first ten plays told me and two other people the first ten plays of the game of last night's game of one of the Games and we don't you could hypothetically tomorrow night. That's hard tonight tonight. So I know the place tomorrow night last night. This came out tomorrow. It's a secret semantics that the moral the moral of the story story is I know the place throwing a former Russky. I know I know the plays. I watched him on film like. We don't know if this guy lied though to Matt to that'll be a test put. This is like that's what I'm saying. There is a you know we're kind of in the business of football together as a broadcast crew with the coaching staff one team one dream so so it is helpful all to hear from them. Hey okay. What are you what what's your game plan? What's your thought what do you see and then we're then? We do the same thing like we're honest about what we see. You know that kind of thing yeah and we're promoting their schools especially the smaller schools. Give us if they're nice with us. We're going to be nice with them. Obviously it helps out a lot yeah but I mean I'm not trying to be nice. I mean I'll call it like it is I was I oh I think I was hard on the Memphis quarterback like in terms of like his his throws he missed some wide open guys perfect play calls and just balls out about like if the ball was a grenade no one would've would have gotten hurt on one of the great actor was that line said to you before wasn't that Boza Jose grew. Nobody would have heard what was the butterfly line. You dropped off by God. That's Brett Farve ISM like any time he'd have a really nice fade. Throw in the back corner of the end zone with his Mississippi accent. He'd say that ball drop like a butterfly with sore feet or any more Brett Farve is do that on purpose either. I didn't know how else to explain. It was just like obscene that throw before and that was from the Navy quarterback that Navy quarterback had the that's the first half ever got hurt and Vegas. No how did Vegas know that he was going to get hurt. They'll the Memphis defense players on offense answer navy got hurt and that's really that was the key to the game but I wonder how last night's game honestly because here we are going into. It Vegas thinks it's going to be eleven. Uh I'm thinking hunting potentially more but couple other games in the past we thought it was gonna be different and it got real tight. We've had some good great game we have the the pirate has gallbladders getting a little surgery. No mascots out says that move the spread it all supposedly by one point. Is the bone yard going to be less loud. How are you serious L? Supposedly the cartoony wants so they're real pirate will not be there because the gallbladder on top of that. Are you some kind of surgery the surgeon gallbladder surgery Thursday night football primetime television pushback. UK Have Gall water for another day of bad gallbladder for another day parlay tone. 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I know nothing about these teams but I've heard this mustaches fucking awesome macas shaved it. I'm like what are you talking so he had a bad game. He had a bad game last week and so I don't know if that's why but got a bad game and he shaved the Mazda. I'm so mad at that kid. He better have the biggest game of his life. It's GonNa be hard for me not to bury him so molly. Oh boy that's a good one things incredible so molly McGrath who's our great sideline reporter reporter does an amazing job educates US each and every day on stuff stroke. She says we'll PAT. Why don't you go and talk to him? pre-game and find out what the reason any shave the moustache was and what you say. I'm a fucking various was basically what you said. It was like yeah he's going to reprimand him. You hit bedbug in shape fucking eyebrows that mustache you you keep vet mustache. That's not just something I grow as a rally stash or something what he has on spaces a work of art probably took several months to grow. I mean who's groomed and he was just what what hits a bad ball. fuck it. It's gone. He could actually double as the mascot tonight if he still had the mustache legit. He looks like the pirate. It's unbelievable. It's one of the best mustaches I've ever seen me to shave off because he hits a bad hey bud. You'RE GONNA hit a lot more bad balls. I don't know how to tell you this. This is going to happen. It's just not right. Hey sure idea jim flush. Take advice good advice it. Is You know what else is good advice. Saito just caught his first look at the mustache. How nice agreements that's what I'm saying mustache out? You're telling you like rush. The mustache is the best thing our team not that great this year were not great but the punters mustache is really all we look forward to and I walk into that meeting. That's not anymore. They got nothing to look forward to that sad dude. That is very sad all right. I think we're done here. sound good. Do we cover everything we had to cover a couple bangers. Now what Song Oh nicky can purple haze hold on purple. Haze is the song that they're gonNA play tonight. Jimi Hendrix the bone yard song okay so one yard is the student section Brandon McManus facetime me twice. Oh big big number eight great Moustache Denver broncos yeah. Is He facetime you right now. What else attempt last tonight? I'm recording upon Chelsea any songs LACO. Hey how's it going sir. He wasn't incredible moustache to bring in Joe FLACCO. Joe FLACCO has incredible hair and you have him say something we can put him in the episode title to Hey hold on one second flacco. Can you say something real loud into this. Mike we can say you're a guest on the podcast real quick just saying hi they say hi real quick Joe Flacco Jess on the podcast as awesome. Thank thank you for that. Draw those very nice mcvay Joe flacco join us. Hey appreciate Dagga Finishes Eight flacco Justin Showman the Matt Hasselbeck and Joe flacco in the episode. How are you kidding me? I gotTa tell you a quick flacco story while he was a guest on the show we heard from Joe early Friday before his Super Bowl and I'm at the Super Bowl like whatever I'm with a group of people and we're driving. I haven't alongs Friday night and we're kind of in alley and there's this dude walking and I'm just like he cannot walk Joe FLACCO and I'm like I'm like I'm a go look everybody in the car and like a suburban and I'm like it's Joe FLACCO and we roll up slow the car driver like the Limo driver guy he's like Oh. Is it Joe FLACCO. It's not Joe FLACCO. It's Friday before the Super Bowl walking down an alley and we pull up its JOE FLACCO. I'm like hey joe say hey what's Batman. He won the Super Bowl. You WanNa ride yeah. I'm like do you WANNA ride. He's like no. I'm just walking home. Just went over to my wife. You Know New Orleans uh-huh. I'm not sure you know about me running into a quarterback in New Orleans. Do I hear about this. I ran into a quarterback on the streets of New Orleans Super Bowl Week. Who'd you run into fucking Jake the snake I hate the guy was his name? Jay Cutler. You got big dog budget pumped me. I was like Oh jake snake awesome. Meet you base ace. Give me like a someone's nickname the first time you meet him right then. I don't know that's a great snake Palmer Yeah. What are you talking about especially whenever he's blacked got out of his mind? I'm like I think I thought we're in friendly terms. Here turns out that was not the case. I never thought you would hold getting blacked out against somebody I the way he acted you of all. I was gonNA order against him. he's in high school. I was allstate awesome. Jake back to meet YOU DICK I. I like Jake Plumber. I hate him. You're like that though if you have a bad first impression over you're done forever see you later. You could come around on somebody. There's somebody you came around on. You didn't like them at all and you came around. I would say joey choice of weapon. Jokes was yeah. I was just an easy answer. I don't think it's ever happened up shirts Apple Nope I was nick and I little interest their job Mac Bob Mac okay the guy the Westwood One guy that does the audio for our new stuff. He may be back on you know he's just every conversation we had. He was very negative by the way all the most negative negative human of all time like this can't do. Everything's everything's happening by the way probably it's probably pretty right under SALGA. Everything was just impossible right by him and he was the guy was supposed to be putting things together so everything meeting was impossible so I was just sick. I don't need your negativity. I'm not in in the problems business. I'M GONNA Solution Business Powell all right. I don't eat that me and John Taffer for. We don't need your negativity. I was like I told the people I don't want Bob Mac on any call that Amman ever again. If you guys need to run something through him and then he comes back to me and like hey we can't do that school because every every time I open my mouth this guy he's just a every every shoots down whatever's coming out. I'm like okay. I'm going to do a coat open for marriage where I'm like. I'm fucking doing it power. I don't don't know what to tell you. That's just how it is. you just need so that whole thing happened right so I hated this literally never met him only over the phone couple of phone calls so he comes out to the office any worked for seventy two hours straight. This guy and I was like you know what with that work ethic pal. I judged you wrong. I WanNa let you know I hated you. I think you probably know that but I'm a big fan of your sir. I respect you in that was in the last couple of weeks. Maybe this is a new me. You know what I mean. Maybe this is another thing what about what about Kellyanne but there's another Guy Frank Caliendo he ended. I came around and Frank Kellyanne. He's great yeah. He is now is I think it's great. I think he's very talented. I think he's very funny but he talked me like I was a twelve year old the first couple of times that I interviewed and have a conversation with them and that's one of the slap the shit sure it was him it was hit thousand percents has to be knocked down a peg talking to me like a massive show. I mean my show is very big on serious. I guess it was too and we can get on a fucking air usually but it's one of these things where he walked in and just start talking to me like I was a child like he was. He thought he was grew. He's a veteran well. Maybe he was GRUDEN. Maybe it was GRUDEN. Who called you know? The person was like mission. Impossible plausible now holds up in that it was and I almost kicked him out of the like. I literally was almost like but he's so good. He's so talented. It's on like all right. I I liked like usability Tonio Brown. I'm free. I'm free and he's on the phone recording Jon Gruden. I was convinced paycheck for may be like how much how much for a phone call thirty five grand okay so he comes back in though Franklin comes back into the studio any like shakes my hand or whatever and he sits down in the first question I asked him he starts talking to me like a twelve year old again and I like basically just told him. I was like this is not going to happen again all right you are not going to be like that. I will kick you out of here. I do not give a fuck about you. was He giving you advice. Well no just just being a condescending prick every question I asked him. He was just talking down me like I was a kid because he does the Bob and Tom Show. Give us an example I can't I don't have a lot of it was like all based around like Oh this guy's just he doesn't you know but not like the button you do not want to push the pets I mean he's. He's a great athlete so it's not like that. If you've never played the fuck you act like the coach. There was a coach that made like a little bit of a Punter Joke Pat just kind of like it didn't eat that was like dead. Look this dude down. What did you just he was talking about? Captains sick and we were like Oh you know Kucher captain and quarterback Middle Linebacker special teams go choose your captain and he named somebody and pats. It's like oh no no pun kicker in he just the coach straight face was like you can't have upon our kicker as a captain combat combat silence world just like Oh gosh. How does this going over? Is that right. That's what my point was. 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You either love a guy or you take a stand Dan. You let everyone know that that guy fucking stinks. No one remembers the middling bullshit. It's I I've bosses tell me that when I first got into TV either all in or all out on the guy I'm like well Okay Matt so why is golf so good at home and terrible and the road who terrible you know what I I don't know if that's true necessarily maybe this year last year. It was okay so this stats in fact about the rams offense they communicate a lot at the line of scrimmage did a piece audibles segment. It is actually pinned on my twitter right now now and he's got like Halle Berry Halle Berry like give audible at the line of scrimmage much more than other players if you watch him he's looking to the sideline sideline. He's communicating is changing formation much much more difficult to do that on the road one. It's very very loud very easily easy to do that at the Coliseum so why how come people bowl and say well. That's just Sean mcvay doing that. People do say that so in the NFL the coach quarterback communication system the head sorry the play caller can on a walkie talkie talk talk to the quarterback until the play clock gets to fifteen seconds. When the play clock gets to fifteen seconds? You can no longer talk to the quarterback same thing on defense. The defensive coaches can talk to the Middle Linebacker or the safety whatever guy they designate. There's a neon green sticker on the back of the person that's designated so some people people say oh well. That's just Sean McVeigh Telling Jared Goff what play to get into. It's not jared Goff doing it on his own digs. Actually I actually think like both are sorta true. Jared Goff is doing it on his own. Sean mcvay is talking to him but I didn't like it when Mike Holmgren would talk into my helmet like I certainly appreciated it definitely one of these great coach Hall of Fame Coach but at some point like I gotta go do my thing and so I think I think with the rams do better than anybody is. They take advantage of that communication at home but again I I still think gus pretty good player who polices that makes sense so they cut it off. There's an NFL guy his job. This is his whole job he sits up in the box. He sits there and maybe like a retired official or something like that and he yeah or maybe a college or high school official and he sits there and watches and when the clock gets to fifteen he pushes a button and shuts it off plays over takes his hand off the thing. We don't have that for our studio studio. That's a button every city of probably does have every radio show in in the United States. I think in the history of radio has one of those buttons we don't have but the interesting thing about that is that when the when the play is over you can then here the coach again so there were many times where I would throw a pass and say the pass was incomplete or something Mike Congress is talking to the coaches on the headset Hasselbeck just missed that it'd be like what the hell looking at like screaming like that and I will hear the tail end of it you know so so back is ice cold today. I'm just catching the tail end of him yelling at in his assistant coaches about me. It's not a confidence builder agitated in the back of the end zone. I'm GONNA pull him. I'm GonNa pull him and then then he then he clicks the button and he says he's like okay. Hey keep your head up. I just heard talking court whenever they say something like objection objection of can't used in the in the juries like fucking which is what he it is that the jury will strike the strike that from the record and you will disregard what you just heard. Oh you're absolutely a well you're supposed to have you ever been yeah when I was eighteen. I've been several all times jury duty. I'm just waiting. I want to it all yeah. I want to be in there. Who's going to co host? The guest host the show when you're gone rich Eisen. I like rich yeah. He's good. I like rich. I found a picture of you enrich hugging from like years ago. It came up in my time hop APP. If you don't have the APP time hop it's pretty good APP. It's like pictures throughout throughout history like forty five years. Well obviously talking time a lot of us. Don't WanNa be reminded well. I found a great picture of a skinny pack fee and a rich Eisen with a good head of hair and it was a nice little picture yeah. They're both yeah yeah started working out. Obviously you're still skinny PAT McAfee. What's wrong with that? That was the face you gave when Rex Ryan knows throwing shaded Baker Mayfield you were very offended or eighteen games. We're a little bit early to say for guys been overrated or not a little bit early ties point you stay you take a stand all in on somebody in your all out Rex Ryan Man Yeah I could see that I love that he's fun to go ice fishing with breath I've done that. He's a good time. I don't even want to dig into this but people are saying a PORTA swordfish other lake minnetonka miracle. Yeah people know the Minnesota Miracle on digs. WHO's trying to get out of this other? This is a different one guy lives in Indianapolis want to Lake Minnetonka poor off the MINNETONKA Miracle Puerto swordfish yeah the fucking ice check the time check time all right we do something called Friday bangers that I'm only playing the song doc strictly because I talked to this dude today's ago. Let's go his name's wally. K needs a new song out code on Chill. I have not heard it. They were promoting it. His new album next Friday comes out cold. Wow that's crazy. That's the name of the album wow wow uh-huh that's crazy. I asked him why because US listening to it and he was like wow that's crazy is it. How did you meet this guy while they yeah okay he had like the? WW PR team around him and security in his boys always on crusher with them. That's another rapper while I was scared you know that's all very very well wait. I'm outside the Oh thank you. You really don't know that as long as there. Have you ever heard that song in my free time I listen to exclusively the Pat McAfee. I respect that but you should try this one on the sign. The I do Matt Tell anyways. It's a little aggressive for you Matt Games on recognize. It's on from the locker rooms Hasselbeck. That's that's like what I hear. I used to wear noise cancelling headphones and pretend that I was listening to me alone but all right so let's go to pre game songwriting the press play here Friday bangers. He sent me earlier silence what if fucking weird situation jogging on the field during world just to complete silence. You're like in one of those commercials Pablo. I'm too old back. We didn't have wireless areolas headphones so get on the field. You're like noise cancelling headphones. You had to be a wire thing and then the round. CD thing they just got rid of the court and just didn't noise canceling then. You didn't have to worry about the wiart the kids today. They got like wireless headphones. They can do whatever they want. This is the big problem I agree that that is quite an advantage because I used to have to. He's got to hold my phone. I go on. I did a quarterback sleep. Yeah I get quarterback from the equipment manager up and I put my phone inside of that plug it in so then my headphones would run all you'd have to put like one of those armbands on your ipod Nano. Was it call showing our age. I mean things have been moving quickly to have been it'd been improving anyways. It's called on Joe by Mr Walleye album coming out next week. WHOA that's crazy? That's crazy. Uh Ah it could I hate that's long. It's like a Netflix and chill zoomed Matt. Oh it's like four hundred Song Vandross. You have children like the new age you have children. Netflixing Joe Joe does does not mean Joe. I I've learned that the hard way not the hard way but I learned that fun parenting I don't. I don't know how you do it. Man The other day like a couple of weeks ago we were driving in a car and Matt had a real dilemma a decision he had to make for a parent and I was like I am nowhere. I have no idea what it was supposed. I Yeah Hey guys should I live my teenage daughter go to post Malone with their friends yes and and then these these were the questions who said yes absolutely I wouldn't by the way he this is what happened in the car by the way in the car you had like the more mature where people like absolutely get such contact high from being that concert see. I'm not down with the truth. Oh No so knows interesting perspective in the car kits mother a fun dad though right now he has the balance being a fun dad and being over strict. Dad Adult daughter getting made fun of for his dad. You always a strict guy or his Mama Hasselbeck this strict mom yeah. I think we're both pretty good but we've got great. Kids have done a nice job like maybe it was you. You're talking about her boyfriend. Deal like Oh. I'm going to have a shot gun. Talk as a dad and it was sort of like I think it was explained to me like you. Don't WanNa be the DAD with a shotgun. You WanNa be like the the data the daughter who would have the shotgun metaphorically. You know what I'm saying you want to raise her right so you don't have to have the shotgun and I want to raise her so that like she's the one that year almost like intimidated to be around her as as you would be intimidated be around the deck stats here by the way has daughters or like the number one and number two ooh female lacrosse players in the country. We're overstating that we're overstating. They're very good at Lacrosse but that's that's an oversell. I don't think so they have have scholarship offers to once going to Duke Nope. They're they're both going to Boston. College play Lacrosse that change that decision change because one was going somewhere else emotions going committed to Boston college and then one was kind of in the recruiting mix all over the country kind of figuring that out when they're both GONNA call now they're both both going about. That's right Yup. They've been who's been. I think in the Last Three National Championship Games Boston College. I haven't won it though so you know what the good thing about across from me is I know nothing about it so my ceiling is just there's a lot of room for me to grow in the LACROSSE knowledge world. You know what I mean. It's like E. C. You there is no ceiling how great this could be. That's what I've been told by coaches well. You're told you then you told me the floor. Is the ceiling thank you the ceiling. Is the roof roof. Thanks honestly ceiling is arrests that last week by the way yeah you did so you get buried as bad as I thought it was going to so I've got great girls. They're awesome postpone here for Friday Ed Banger and and I will continue to ask you guys all run some parenting ideas through okay so is she going she's going. I gave her the green light ladder guy the green light. That's a good song to you. By the Jonas brothers she like she just went to the Jonas Brothers essentially good here's a trivia question because I already asked you don't answer Joe Because you probably are into the Jonas brothers as well but what NFL quarterback just went to the Jonas Brothers concert when and they were in town in his city pro pro bowl quarterback like superstar MVP type last year's MVP homes that makes sense Jonas brothers putting on their instagram bedtime shots as all right. Let's go they used to wear purity then. They're all married now the gap it was a sensual Oh sexual. I watched them right. That's all on Song. was somebody else wrote it and then you get it. I like them. I'm big fan of them. Yeah they're good. What are you saying? You're you're saying this is better aw aw AH shore. He sounds like a very sad thing one recipe okay. It's an incredibly Banger beat. He puts them on itunes on. It has some good little lines there and it's incredibly depressing yeah. Some Mitch left in an Nancy and she has sprung him into a very successful music career boy. He holds a grudge. There's probably probably a lot of people that can relate to that. His songs all sound the same but they're draw bank now. He's got the one with Ozzy Osbourne now. Oh Yeah what's where's that yeah. We heard it the other day yet those tweeting who this Ozzy Osborne guy the post really put them on. That's probably Hasselbeck dot the install. Hey why don't you I wrote this post. Never needed asked say still batch asu mislead breakup on a lot of breakup on how many relationships better but top I hope he finds lines up a believe postpones Dad Stevie chef the cowboys as well jeff very important birthday Song Ozzie the business absolutely yeah yeah and then it goes back to the set so I was happy. I like his music though he makes bangers is based very sad hope he finds love happiness so I'm playing blackjack like ten thousand bucks a Henderson as do with Scottie Pippen. That was the the night after through a before after that was the night after Scotty pippin dumped on me just Gimme that right on my that's a weird flex Scotty Devon Doug dummy was on national television. Wait a minute. I heard that you're going to get in shape to play some all star basketball I am I am going to do that and I've been working on my James Harden shot. So what are you gonNA play it like. What's your goal here? WanNa hang much like the temple. What you're we're going I want to hang forty in the NBA celebrity also you WanNa play in the NBA Celebrity All Star game and you want how many points forty really really how many points you get out? Finally put a chip on usual in your blessing. I just wait until I'm all for wait until I'm just I'M GONNA be in there with a bucket. Handles have lethal shooter come out of the office next week. I'm going to be paying them to live with me. You ever seen that guy now. I've seen you shoot though at headquarters h q the issue is right now. I've been doing a lot of arms and you're on the road so I kind of lost it for the moment yeah but I'm going to hang forty. I I want to be able to Yak to at that point some getting on some stuff. You need dicky funeral ball. I could see this is what I'm saying me and L. D. he just run and run the wave Bro Forty banging low post. It gets rappaport. Hey would you rather have forty like a boring. I'm forty or would you rather have fifteen but all highlights fishing all highlights here with some incredible passes to I want some nasty assists. You know what I mean. Steve National Finance and so you will finally have some respect for Steve Nash so who are you rooting for arguably didn't know who he was. dickey is he's from Philly. Probably a temple is what's the context to musician. Just listen to the words about you. Enjoy this guy. That's not. You'RE GONNA love this say truck. Hey Buddy type of mother funded data talk about damn check for convenience sake working out there day out and do his Patriot fucking. Why don't you raise the money the mother Puckett Thirteen? I wear the same pair of shoes every day which is hard to stairs but I'll you're listening to these yeah not not not not my talking about. He's talking about saving money yeah. He's a financial adviser. He's talking about being smart with your money. Just you know I'm forty. You hold him. I I'm forty four years old so you in about the split in Damn Chat for convenience sake not my Jonah. It's okay at the end of that song. He said he goes on and take take about a waitress charging him for iced coffee offer the refill. He said he wants to know how much the ice is worth you don't WanNa make me making this a non-free per so as you know the way or in the weight room in an NFL team someone picks the music yeah you guys from all different you guys country rock rap. You know whatever and a like a common theme most teams I was on was not the case in India but like is is clean lyrics. You know you're at work. Whatever is that real yeah so like the never been on a team while you're on the call the whole time right yeah so in Tennessee Tennessee titans titans they had a rule there that might have even started with Jeff Fisher if you're if you're music dropped an F bomb or whatever they would like gallon strength coach or head coach or whatever they would take your because usually your phone you take it okay cool or if your phone went off in a meeting they take it gather everybody around and then thoreau aroma against the wall? That was the punishment yeah for phone phone going little dicky swearing for phone going off in a meeting. No I respect that I'll say this and and Lamar Carlier say I think whenever she got there they I think towards the end of the run there was a turn towards the clean lyrics price smart by that. You never know who's coming through the building. Yeah I mean but for me I mean I'm trying to work out and get better. I wouldn't mind having bonecrusher. Excuse yelling at me. You know what I mean. I I guess we can try and get Huntington Bank some more money out of the the while I'm lifting but bonecrusher motivates and gets me going. I'm assuming other guys feels as if you guys have seen him workout. You probably have pets a you're. You're a very talented weightlifter workout. Guys thank you. I appreciate I think interesting all America's favorite exercises like what are the hank laid a hand clean and in handling just so people don't have the power cleans ticket right from the floor. Hang clean you start from basically right above your knee and then like up to your shoulder but not over your head. That'd be a unclean impress yeah statu snatch so don't snatch real grip. I don't like for the knees. Don't let such I only hang clean. That's it got it I there's is only you know they say Bruce. Lee said you can practice a thousand kicks one time where you can practice one thousand times I did that with Ainsley until you do how how many ankles one all right Max out day every day. Put all of it on there. Let's go no I hang clean was the most beneficial workout for me very explosive through the legs. Good hit movement everything like that. I found that it was the best workout for me. A lot of people would say power clean though is the tougher one so hang cleans missile out. I don't care I don't think so but but so I'm just curious that like a four sets a three three cents a six is that a three sets five no the idea. You don't know okay too long tired and you. When's the last time you did hankering right? You're all wait. I did one down okay okay. So when do we do that NASCAR thing that was like two years ago two years ago we did. We went down to what was that dude's Charlotte to Hendrix. motorsports arts so Hendrick motorsports runs their NASCAR team like college football program. They have a strength coach Ash campus the everything like that so we went into the weight room at the end of the day because I was being a pit crew guy for a day and Georgiana tank top and I walked in there and they have a handling thing set up and they want me to do a lift with him I was very hung over and and their entire crews like football players too so they won't pat to really put on here they want me to put on Zhol Hanks's hungover ball players and football fans football players that are now picture of so they take these college players that didn't make the NFL and make him there so hang cleans setup and I do the classic like what's the record and I just put twenty five pounds on top of their record and through that thing a couple of times in shorts and I didn't I was nice to know I still had and like how much is most you ever power our parkway clean. I think at one point I was like three forty five. That's really high yeah. Wow yeah good for you thank you. It's a president I'm I'm surprised that's not part of your workout routine right now leg at home. It's not easy to do. It's gotTa finally doesn't take a long time either but you gotta have like a rubber floor. You gotTa have have a rubber floor. You're building is literally a rubber floor and you're right. You're all you're all you with knee boxes. The all you need is a bar and some some lightweight take two seventy five Olympic weight go to like Roque fitness dot com with boom there. Is there by the time you get home. You have some bumper plates at the office a student not enough enough right zero. I don't have enough weight so what are fitness. Dot Com is one option option. I'm sure there's other but that one I walked into that place in George very hung over having done it in like a year or two and just put to seventy five on and just do like three to one website old ooh shows over have a great weekend from all of us here hope the game last night was awesome Matt. Thank you so much man anytime guys good co host. I feel like I learned a lot about the vikings there yeah I gotta go. Watch some film on them. figure out what's going on thank you. I know it's kirk cousins. I'm GONNA take a break it down and sell stop. I'm Gonna I'm seriously going to go because I'm going to break down the Vikings and on Sunday the NFL countdown this week some time between ten am and one PM. I'm going to break down what's going on. I can't wait. Oh don't let us persuade you at all. We just not not that kirk cousins steaks. That's terrible. Do quarterbacks reach out to you. quarterback coaches do I don't know if quarterbacks do components reject me. It's kind interesting to kicker Punter Bondi's as strong as any bond. I know it's like the cigarette smokers bond people you never ever thought or dippers tippers bond like Oh. Can I share out he did drop the ball flatter. It's embarrassing. That's it's like the conversation you're going to have with a the mustache. 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And he may or may not have been wearing the shirt, I could totally tell, but I took a picture of him without him knowing it because I think I think STAN Van Gundy needs to be publicly shamed for this. I don't even care what he thinks of it either by the way, like if this Rex relationship, then so be it. I got no problem with that. Because I always leave the van Gundy's to be people who were truthful, especially their parents like, and Jeff and STAN have been stained by him promising to do this for us and then walking it back because he's afraid of thin-skinned David Stern. So my brother is stained by me going back on my word, the Van Gundy name, all of Gundy name all van Gundy's sly kids, everybody am I wrong. Yes. Your kids. Everybody. Am I am? I wrong. You want to defend yourself because you sound like a broken not trying to defend myself. I did go back on my word. I decided that that was not something that I should do. But I don't think that should affect anyone other than me. It's not how it works on this shows. No all while. We just put her on television. I think. I think that's pretty incriminating. Mike, Mike that looks pretty incriminating to me the shot. I got him to put it on Instagram. So you can weigh in at lebatardshow. All right. Yes. So the betrayal is are just hanging me out to dry here. That is correct. Then you will eat it. Let's talk some basketball with STAN Van Gundy. This is what I to I to give you some numbers. Here's two guys because the Boston Celtics were almost finals good last year or quarter away from being finals good last year. They added Kyrie Irving it's been season of no fun at all the Philadelphia. Seventy Sixers standing and Gundy last week told us that's as good a starting five. Now, you add Tobias Harris. That's a good starting five as anybody. But the the warriors and yet Boston every damn time. They play Philadelphia they wipe the floor with them. And Furthermore, Joel Embiid was physical specimen of uncommon size and strength. He gets neutralized all the time by the old man game of Al Horford. Listen to these stats. Because Boston is ten and two in his last twelve games against Philadelphia. You saw that without kyri and Gordon Hayward they dismissed Simmons and Embiid and five games in the play on might say, the Celtics have their number so Horford when when Joel Embiid is guarded by Horford. He is twenty-five of seventy when he's guarded by anyone else. He's forty eight for fifty two. Stan what the hell man Al has Joel's number. What the hell question that? And that's really the reason for the for the mismatch between the two teams. Now, I think Brett Brown made the point after the game. And he's absolutely right. This is a whole new team for the Sixers, and they haven't been together at all. So I don't think that they're necessarily overly worried about having to play them in the playoffs is Philadelphia team. Will look a lot different in two months, and it does right now. But the biggest problem will not go away. And that is the Joel Embiid has a very difficult time with Al Horford at both ends of the floor. Al Horford can guard him and he struggles to guard Al Horford, and it does look like L horford's into his head a little bit. Joel Embiid starts forcing he gets frustrated even more. So with the referees right now. That's a difficult match up for Joel Embiid stand as a coach. How would you approach that with Embiid? Like, what would you say to them? How do you change that? I guess. Well, I think number one Joel embiid's great player. He just needs to relax in play and not worry about who's going to win that individual matchup because when you get into that. And you wanna prove people wrong, and you wanna prove you can score on another guy. Whatever it is in this case Al Horford, you don't necessarily make the best decisions. You're just out there in in an individual battle. Joel embiid's really really good. He just needs to play 'em. Look if that's a matchup where more of the scoring is going to go to Jimmy Butler and Tobias Harris JJ Rettig, then so be it. It doesn't matter. Let's let's focus on winning the game. What you're talking about actually leads to an interesting question. Have you as a coach ever had a player that you're like man, I gotta get this guy out of there that other player on the court is totally on his head in his head. Yeah. There's definitely matchups that don't work. Well, and normally if it's one of your best players, it's not you're getting him out of the game. You just may not go to EMAS much. But but yeah, the there's I think if they were being totally honest, and they wouldn't be for most guys in the league. There's one guy somewhere that they just really have a tough time with well. Hold on a second though. Stan because I don't believe you're in any position at this particular moment to look at other people and say if they're being totally on it. So let's show. Here on the seat. And I want you to be totally honest. Because while I was watching you in the finals the Lakers against the magic what I saw is that Richard Lewis your max player at every turn no matter what you were doing Lamar Odom had him Lamar owed. You could not that matchup was not going to work out for you. And it's why you lost in the finals. Do I have that wrong? I know you don't want to. I don't know you don't wanna rip Rashard Lewis. But that's what I thought watching that game. I remember thinking to myself the Lakers. Lamar Odom is too much for this and Rashard Lewis short-circuiting. Well, you know, I didn't ever look at it as that Lamar was short-circuiting restored Louis, but Lamar had a huge. I mean, other than Kobe Lamar Odom had the biggest impact on their series on that series. I mean, we played well when it was good soul and Andrew bynum, we could play against them because you know, for either one of those guys to have to. Away from the basket severely compromised their defense, but go Mark and really guard. Oh, I gotta Schefter bomb here. What happened? Bad. Does that one more my Schefter, bomb basketball or flip Paul j it's it's a football bomb? What happened Tony Brown? Breaking Adam Schefter. Baltimore. As a greedy in principle. Drake. Former Super Bowl MVP. Joe flacco. To the Broncos. I feel like you're punching me in the face with a vibrating electrical current. Disoriented in my face is spinning. It's rare eight former Super Bowl MVP Horner back has been traded. He's got a cat and getting it done. How about that? Imagine. How far get thrown in the thin air of Denver as imagine at what does this mean for case keenum? What does this mean in general? That's the question. What is it being in general? Also, what did they trading for? Do. We have another side to create question. Two can actually be processed for another month. And neither team can comment on it. So here, we are great. So we just know Joe flacco is going to Denver. We have no idea in the face vibrating. Big great Trump dropped top time to read the street for a hat spot, the Mike now, the keenum portals opened up that. What do you think it Dan up? I mean, Jacksonville J vote. Joe flacco is so wash. We'll see we'll we great don't threaten me. So God's here is nice to have a helping hand especially when it's act season. And that hand is attached to a licensed tax professional, but turbo tax live. You can talk to real CPA's in as on-demand who can reveal your return with you before you file and make sure you're getting your maximum refund. That's very very important. They can even check your work line by line. So you can be confident. It's done, right. Who knew confidence and peace of mind could be synonymous with taxes. Turbo tax live which CPA's in e as on demands he details at turbo tax dot com. Donlevatar? So we got some Chris Bosh quotes here. Did you see any of these got? No, no, no, okay. Keep moving here. The stugatz. Would I see? Read about it. Either read about it. Super Bowl listened to me bad. I look at a box score. You can just fake your way through it. These live at our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. Here's the straight talk. And we'll get to stand van Gundy's nuggets in your face. And just a second Mike I need some help here because I feel I'm going to get tangled up on this. The nickname is dying in sports in a way that said, you know, I thought and many people thought that the nickname for Kevin Durant slim reaper was an excellent nickname. He didn't like it never got off the ground. It's been awhile since we had a good nickname in sports. We had Al Horford on he has many nicknames. None of them good. He explained to us that he is the godfather. And what I'm asking you because he he accepted the name from Billy Donovan, the godfather, even though we didn't know he was nicknamed the the godfather, and he had other ridiculous nicknames James Brown. We were talking about how he may have been murdered. And we were calling him. The Al Horford of soul. James Brown, the godfather. So we were calling him the Al Horford of soul, and what I'm asking you guys. Can I get off the ground the nickname for our whole Horford of the godfather of jolt? No. Long way to sell that man. Let's get to stand van Gundy's. Oh, I didn't pronounce it. Right. That was my failure. Not that. It wasn't funnier that it took too long. My failure was pronounced Joel. Embiid's name wrong. I mean, Joel Embiid would not feel the same way. Jo ellen. You know, why he's right about that? Put it on the poll. Guillermo does Joel Embiid dunk on you the same way? Joel Embiid does because I'm with Scott's on this. What is the theme for the nuggets this week stand? Well, streaks and records. Nice. Okay. Officiant of mission work streets in records. Let's get to this. This is very exciting. Do I write these down every week? I don't know. It's very confusing. Let's go ahead and get stand van Gundy's third. Biggest open and now Tom campaign goodies top NBA, nuggets only Wednesday show. The thingy. What's happening today? Gay Billy couldn't we have not gone to that crappy imaging. It's our fault for doing the thing that we do every time. Okay. Go. The third best nugget from Stanford Gundy is the longest winning streak in the NBA right now surprisingly belongs to the Indiana Pacers who have steadied themselves after the loss of Victor Oladipo in one six straight games while the schedule has been a little soft. They have been dominant winning by sixteen and a half points per game. Roese stand. I don't know who their head coaches. But he deserves coach of the year. He certainly Nate McMillan, certainly don't know coaches Millan, sit us deserves fee and Bhuttan holes are to me are two guys that should be fighting it out for that. God god's. Yeah. East damn near got tenure for the Pacers. He'd been there many years. I was afraid to say he was still there by virtue of can't be they're five and six years. He's getting it done stand. You would agree. This is the quietest thirty eight and nineteen starting NBA history. I know it's talking about tell you what. No, look, they everybody talks about the two teams ahead of Milwaukee and Toronto and the two teams behind them Philadelphia and Boston everybody talks about those four teams in the east as you know, the contenders. And then it's even more they lose Victor oil depot, they lose their first four after that injury. And everybody just thinks they're going to fade away. And then. Right now, they're the hottest team in the NBA. That is more Pacers talk than you will get anywhere outside of Indiana. It was including Indiana. It was insufferable. Nobody cares about the Pacers chances this season as I said, quite nobody cares. They're not going to surprise anybody. They're not going to do anything. They're just going to get to the play offs and lose to one of the more towns at teams because they don't have Victor depot. Stop it with the nonsense and the second best nugget from STAN Van Gundy is Vince Carter and Dirk Nowitzki or play in. They're both playing their twenty-first NBA season tying them with Robert Parish, Kevin Willis, and Kevin Garnett for the most ever more remarkable. As it Carter is the only guard in that group, and the whiskey is the only person in NBA history to play that long with one team. That nice right now the pace of play the nets if the playoffs started today, you would take the net I wouldn't make the nets a betting favourite there. Led by Dangelo. Russell. And the number one. The number one stand Van Gundy nugget in your face this week is Paul George is now made at least two three pointers in thirty five straight games. Steph. Curry has his own streak of thirty two games going, and they are both chasing scurries all time record of fifty straight games making at least two three pointers. He should be the MVP. Stan, Paul, George. You know, what there's a few guys you can make a case for, but he certainly one of them, and he's probably here in the last two weeks at least been the best player of everybody. I mean, he he's been crazy. It has been crazy to see after a game Damian Lillard say, hey, Paul Georgia's game has gone to a different level. We all see it. He's the MVP the league you don't normally hear that in the opposing locker room from someone like Damian Lillard. It's an excellent case study in patients not only coming back from injury. But also in gelling and chemistry with a teammate. I know Carmelo Anthony was there last year, and it sort of slowed the chemistry, but he is a totally different look in player and plays. Well, with Russell Westbrook. PG thirteen a really does. And Billy Donovan's done a great job there. He's a you talk about patients and Billy's patient and understands things that you know, are going to take time, and there's a process of the thing and. They've been willing to stick with it. And things are really working out. I mean Russell Westbrook now is excelling even though he has a hard time making shots. He's doing everything else. They're both finding their own roles as leaders of this team. And with not an incredible roster around them that they're playing great basketball. That would be a cool story if the Golden State thing and ended by Westbrook and Paul George right because it's hard. It's hard to imagine. Right. It's hard to imagine. If when you start talking about favorites and whatnot, wait a minute, Oklahoma City, largely couldn't beat Golden State when they had Kevin Durant. And now they've replaced. Kevin Durant with Paul George who's not as good as Kevin Durant might be MVP of the league. And now you're going to beat those warriors who have Kevin Durant. That's what you're going to do with Paul George like, you would understand why most people would be skeptical their stand. Yeah. No question. And I don't think that they will beat them, quite honestly. But you're right. If they did in Paul George going to be a good candidate. Look, I think it's gonna be tough to go by James harden this year. I mean, the numbers he's putting up our incredible Houston's winning now, I think he's probably the favourite but Paul George especially with his ability to play both ends of the floor because he's an MVP candidate. And he'll probably be first team all defense that that should be enough to make you an MVP in most years that is straight talk and is brought to you by straight talk wireless, nationwide coverage on America's largest and most dependable four G L T E networks. At golfing with my coli half an hour ago. The godfather of JOL. Don't do this again series yet yourself the right? Geico presents unhelpful home improvement. How To's a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills? So today, I'll show you how to cook. In a serious. Fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. Just nail a piece of plywood across the doorway and dump in two thousand multicolored plastic balls, you could try to protect yourself with a bathroom full of plastic balls or you could get liability coverage through the Geico insurance agency. Visit Geico dot com and see how affordable renter's insurance can be donlevatar. They're talking forward. Go at it as hard as they can. Stugatz. They're talking. These. Live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So STAN Van Gundy is with us during the basketball season. We love having him around and one of the things that TNT guys do and you've got to bring in new voices new media voices. New former players and coaches a baron. Davis was getting a run on TNT. He's always been interesting right Baron Davis. Always he says strange things, right? I think Mike if I don't have this wrong. He said he he saw an alien one time Baron Davis. I remember first time I ever talked to him back when he played in New Orleans. I asked them how much of the league smoked marijuana. And he said eighty percent of the league. And that was a shocking thing at the time, Barron. Davis has always been very comfortable saying things and last night. He was talking about TJ McConnell. We haven't been able to get this sound cleared. But when we do I'd like to play it for you baron. Davis said he was abducted by alliens. But what on Twitter to say that he was joking? Okay. But didn't he also date? Laura dern? I they sing. So might be dating. I'm not sure if they ever stopped baron. Davis is interesting. He's an interesting person who says interesting things, but one of the things that he said last night during the broadcast is he wasn't a big fan of TJ McConnell and the only compliment he can muster for TJ McConnell was he he plays hard, and then he sort of laughed himself and said, but anybody can do that. And then him and shack started laughing, and there wasn't a lot of self awareness in the frame there. As shack starts, laughing and bury Davis starts laughing as both of them have been overweight in their careers and are at the top of any list of guys who didn't play heart. Stu gods strong. Right. I mean, that's those are two funny. People stand Baron Davis. Look what he endured with the clippers was awful, Donald sterling doing all sorts of racist stuff to him. But also he was fat shaming him. Donald sterling was fat shaming Baron Davis. That's there are a lot of basketball players who are fats. You've got there might be guys who are slightly out of shape. There aren't a lot who are fat. And both of those two guys on that set have been accused of being fat baron. Davis said that he suffered from anxiety whenever Donald sterling was was around because of sterling's verbal barbs pudgy not that I think is a fat for basketball player. Stan what do you have for us on this? Well, I mean, I do think both of those guys at times they're conditioning was certainly questioned the time I had shocked. He was in good shape. So that's all really I can speak to in terms of actually knowing, but they certainly were were accused of that. And I would. Agree with Baron Davis onto things number one that that's all TJ McConnell. Does is play hard. I'd strongly disagree with that. I think he's smart. I think he's quickey really moves his feet. He can stay in front of people. He can get into the paint and make plays. And then the other thing I would agree with disagree with in saying that anybody can play art. I don't think that's true. I think that effort and energy is a talent that some people have developed throughout their career. And I don't think there's that many guys who are have the ability to go out there on a night tonight basis possession by possession and give great effort. I think it's hard the NBA seasons a grind. And there's not too many people who can do that. And TJ McConnell's one of the guys who can who's the guy. Former NBA player, you would least what like it'd be funny. If he said that about maybe conditioning playing hard all that. I'm thinking Eddie Carey. I'm thinking Oliver Miller. Our Stanley Roberts. Maybe Stanley Robert you're shooting all those big guys who in it's funny because they're similar in a way. They all had great hands. Very good skill and, yeah, we're we're heavy. I mean, you know, there's just certain bodies made differently. And they were heavy but highly skilled guys all three of those guys you're looking for a guard. I'll submit Dion waiters into the conversation with Darin Davis with Dave is because Baron Davis was portly. Well, wait a minute. Now. I mean, here's the thing. I would say with the waiters and Baron Davis. They both had times where they were coming off of injuries where they couldn't do a lot where maybe they didn't come back in tremendous shape. That's tough to do when you have injuries and can't do certain things. It's not like. There was no reason I'll tell you going to do what Shawn Kemp did which is have a cocaine problem have a ton of ton of sex. Do professional basketball is a sport and still get fat. That's what's tough to do the way. Shawn. Kemp did that cocaine problem exercising vigorously every day? And also having lots of babies. Court transition time for some ads. Not right. Do I have anything wrong? Did I tell me lies there? And also, by the way, just less you think that I know what I'm talking about on anything. I thought Stanley Roberts was going to be better than shack. I thought when they were in college together stand that Stanley Roberts was going to be better than Shaquille O'Neal, one of them became one of the greatest players ever the other Stanley Roberts. Look, I mean shack if you were betting against shack on that deal. Yeah. That wasn't a good move. I don't know too many people that had that had Stanley Roberts being better than shat. It can't thing is odd because they were tied where he was so chisel, maybe the most chiseled man in the NBA, but you're right about the Rainman. You know, look, he could you love nicknames. Of course, G donlevatar Vladimir Guerrero seven in war in nationals Expos history. Stugatz. How many Expos are ahead of him? Oh, easy. Gary Carter's, I hit him Raines rock. Andre Dawson walk Steve Rogers, Raj Tim wallet wall. And then Ryan Zimmerman and then ZIM VC's live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. I can't believe this already. Yes. Everybody on alert. Oh, ROY ROY was just nodding off there. But now, he's ready. Chuck, Salvator Pedo has been launched from the bowels of the SPN the literal bowels ESPN as indigestion and Chuck burps. This up is busy today. But it's busy on a Wednesday. When we don't have a lot of news here is the Chuck solid torpedo. In classy exit. Joe flacco provides smooth and off to Lamar Jackson. Joe, cool and Jost and keep in mind. Not only just Joe flacco move to Denver and have you know, changed what this is a fish now. Lamar Jackson Baltimore's quarterback sitting here happening in the middle of February on a Wednesday. It's a classy exit, but an Editor's Note on the solid torpedo. This story was originally published on January eighth. That's not a Salvator Pedo. Maybe their quarterback of the future. But also they haven't played them at wide receiver just yet. So give it time. Right. Bill Polian really nail this one. That's as bad a prediction as there's been on on our network. You time will tell in his in Poland's defense. They still haven't tried it amounted receiver enough that's a fair point. Because for all we know they're leaving the next Jerry Rice on the field. I mean, we have no idea wasting that quarterback. But Bill Polian. That's thing that happened by the way that in the analysis. This is how many times it's polling one executive of the year three four he said that Lamar Jackson was not an NFL quarterback that he would be better served at wide receiver or running back or a skilled player because he was because he was faster now than anyone now. We'll never know. And it is really woefully bad analysis on retrospect six I've executive of the year to stop right now. All right, six up. So we are blessed blaspheming against the six time executive of the year told us though that Ozzie Newsome and John Harbaugh. In selecting Lamar Jackson and running off champion. Great. Joe? Flacco to Denver. That's that's seems to be Bill Polian being wrong. Does it not like if if the Baltimore brass deciding Lamar Jackson's better than Joe flacco counterpoint who's the co founder of the alliance of American football. Wow. Bill polian. He's on a roll, man. Let's see how Lamar Jackson turns out. I right to know if that was bad analysis on I mean, I don't think we've got that Lamar Jackson's like a great NFL quarterback. All right. But hashtag, wait and see STAN and sports radio. Like, don't you get what we're doing here? We're overreacting to the Joe flacco news because it doesn't actually matter. It doesn't expensive name quarterback changing positions on a Wednesday Bill. We a fake our way through the passion for the subject if I'm Bill Lamar continues to be good if I'm Bill I just cover that by saying, listen, he'd be a better wide receiver that continue to say that and we're never gonna know doubles down down. Slowly, right? He'd be better than Randy moss is all I was saying. We'll just never be able to see it because the ravens will never risk it. So STAN let me just see if I have this straight as you continue to try and sharpen these hot take skills. Your taking the position. Let's wait for more facts. Yes. Yes. Let's let's wait and see Lamar Jackson's performance over time as an NFL quarterback before we say that Bill Polian was wrong. How dare you wait for facts? Well polian. I mean, he played NFL quarterback last year in one games. Now. I know that I know the Tim Tibo did just going to say that. Yeah. Okay. But do you think he's Tim tebow? Is that what STAN Van Gundy? That's not what I'm saying. I know what he is. I haven't seen enough. He's for the fact that Jerry still out, I know all in all he had a very good year. But there were parts of that playoff game against the chargers that felt very Tiba Bowie just more, but TB Tiba. We it's true, though, what he's saying what my saying is true. So there we are and Tepa one is first playoff game. That's right over the Steelers of. Yes, Ben Rothlisberger with a thrust. Tim devotes still got those fans here in in Florida who insists that he's just a winner. And if somebody would have just given him the ball and let him play that team would have won. I mean Tepa was an injury away from proving mouth a lot of people wrong when it came to baseball. I think he would have got called up. He was an all-star throw was in eighty yo. Yeah. His numbers were awful. Even when he was in all star. He he was an all star because of his name and drawn people to the game come on his baseball numbers. They're not good for a minor leager. They're certainly not good for anybody of his age. But he's got a name, and he's a draw and people are saying that he'll be up at some point this year with the Mets, but he's not a major league baseball. In city on that one at some more facts around here. Stan you jackal we can wait for more facts on Tibo and doing other Tibo segment. Message and data rates may apply. When did it become ok for men to be Lazier softer fatter? We need to bring the men of this country back to greatness, and it's easier than ever with ageless male max a patent pending formula with an ingredient that helps boost your total testosterone promoting greater increases in muscle size and twice the reduction of body fat percentage that exercise alone. Plus an amazing sixty four percent increase in nitric oxide, which can be handy in the gym and in the bedroom. Take your manhood to the max by trying your first thirty day Buttle free just pay shipping and handling not ten days. Not fifteen days put a full thirty day supply free. 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Water check them out hydrate with core dot com. Mike Evans, what do you think? Man. What's going on? First of all how is the happiest place on earth. Disneyland. It was it was I broke down. Mike, I broke down. And I did kind of what I promised myself. I wasn't going to do. So for years when I worked at ESPN we had Disney the weekend, and it was the greatest boondoggle on on planet earth. They'd bring us in to Disney the Disney World, and we stay at one of the Disney properties. You know, they give us, and we had you bring all your kids and everything. So we had these great Disney properties. Like, these two bedroom suites or whatever they had food and meals for us. They had the whole I mean, it was a whole kit and caboodle, and then we had our own guide for like three days at DisneyWorld. So as I'm doing a TV show. My guide is taking the kids around to like different rise. Whatever we wanted to ride and you go right through the exit and you just get right on the ride, and they let you right to the front line. It's so these guys are phenomenal right? Right. And so I get done doing a TV show. And I have like thirty minutes before my next hit on sportscenter. So we blew like run over to tower of terror and we'd ride it like two three times. And then I'd run back over to the set and do another hit on sports center. I mean, it was like I said it was a greatest boondoggle ever. Here's the problem. You get there. And you do it for four or five years in a row. Not only you but your kids aren't used to actually having to wait in line at spoil. Oh, totally spoilt your approach to Disneyland is let them eat cake. Yes. Exactly. So the first day usual the first day, we're stated Disneyland hotel. It was great. We've got this. I mean is beautiful. My wife said it all up, and this was for her birthday, by the way, she said all she wanted for birthday is to go to Disneyland with the kids and our grandkids and have a couple of days Disneyland. I'm like in medicine such a fun time. Right. So that's what we did. We did the first day we got through about four hours we need about three. Things and the kids were tired. And so we're like we're going to go take a nap, then we'll come back, and as we're walking there. I'm like, let's not come back. As a matter of fact, let me call somebody over it over at Disney over the VIP tours thing. And let me let me work this thing out. So I made the phone call actually, I have my wife make the phone call. I got the number from one of my people that I know at Disney or Scott people right dissolves, she called up the VIP tours people, and we got a tour the next day. So it's pricey. Don't get yourself. It's pricey. But it was worth it. I mean, we would seven hours of just hell bent for election. We wrote every ride take you to the front of the line. The people who are waiting in line like excuse me, skews me and you walk right in front of them. Well, we walk through the back exit. So there's still a line and you have to you jump the front. The line. Yeah. Why be so pissed I'd be so why it'd be so you're right for line. You're gonna go next after standing in line for forty minutes. That's your problem. I'd be so pissed but envious. I'll tell you what once you do it that way. And I know like once he do that way. So I was talking to our guide Philip, and he was telling me he's like all the ABC shows because ABC Disney so all the shows part of your actors contract is to guided tours year at Disneyland or Disney World is so you get that guided tour for for the day, and he's like it is hilarious because once their show ends, and they're no longer employed under that contract. It's the thing. They miss mode. Riot course. Right. So you see like my guy was like oh just last week. I had nNcholas cage, you know, and his family and toured them around and coach Nick cage. What do you think Nick cage? How do you like? You're you're a big what was that movie that series a movie like the where he's international treasury? National treasure your big, Nick cage, national, John you Scott. Yeah. Sure. Sure. We'd be like. Cage. It's gonna look at Andy Sandberg doing exactly that's all. I can do you know, he goes on to student who took luring of independent. He goes on these rides. Like will I go? It's like one of the ghost rider. Remember ghostwriter never saw that. All those Ryder was great. I don't think I'll watch. I thought that was ghost rider wasn't that kit the car now. No, no, no. I do that. Right or. Ghost rider. Knight rider van. David hasselhoff. You David Hasselhoff gets a VIP guy to tour Cam, right? He's the Hof he is the Hof. All right. He is the Hof banana good time. We had a great. It was. It was great. What I'm saying? All these nice things because we're going on a Disney cruise next month. So all right. Here's. Send us along to your people. Right. Here's the coolest thing. Probably I'll act like I'm gonna help you. But I won't. So here's the coolest thing that we did the charactered like dinners and breakfasts with the characters and to see my like my youngest granddaughter, drew who's two and a half is just like with every character. I love you a love you and getting you know, kisses, and they just lit up autographs, and pictures and videos, and that was that's the coolest thing. They just think it's that think that's so and by the way for the dads out there, and you go to one of these like, Princess lunches or something. Yeah. And here's Snow White. And here's Cinderella, and you're like brew full warming here who you didn't. You know? I didn't know. I was like all right. How's like okay mic? Who? Talking all. Although, although the funniest thing. Live buddies. They is my daughter got our my granddaughter got the I don't I don't look at me. Like that. Don't judge me you one of you out? There is the same thing. Right. My no they weren't. But in my granddaughter got the mini hands. You know, the the gloves that looked like Minnie mouse hands, and it's the greatest thing ever. So I suggest whatever the cost of the mini were I didn't pay attention. I don't even know. But whatever they they're worth it. Because my granddaughter pretends, she's Minnie mouse and Minnie mouse doesn't talk so she just waves and she'd like waves at people, and then she tries to gesture what you wanna do what she wants you to do by using hand gestures, emotions and stuff and she was like in character for good our half without speaking. And it was like this is the greatest thing ever I so whenever like silence, right? Like, we let's get back to the hotel at night. You know, we had the the Disneyland hotel, suite, whatever, I'm like, why don't you put on your mini hands? You put on your millions. And and pretend you're mini for an hour and a half or so what couple watches the ship. Off. Oh, you're so bad. I know so while you were way. Yeah. So big doings meeting where to start. Well, let's start right here in Denver where we are reacting to the Joe flacco deal. I know I know Vic Fangio came out just a few days ago and said, look, I'm not interested in band-aid approaches. Band-aid approach is all the band aids. Do is get you to eight and then a few years later, you're five and eleven and wondering what the heck happened. Let's because you start slapping bandaids on things right instead of addressing the real problem. So is this just a band aid move? Yeah. It is. I mean, what is Joe flacco Joe flacco what just finishes eleven to twelve year. He's yeah. He's a Super Bowl MVP. I get it. And he that he gambled on himself. I like I love this about him. This is ballsy. They had like a eighteen nine hundred million dollar contract on the table for Joe flacco. He said, no, I'm worth more gambling himself. And then went on this out of body experience playoff run where through eleven TD's versus no interceptions and led the Baltimore Ravens to the Super Bowl. K it was amazing then they had a Neo Slava huge contract on him. And you know, he he gambled on himself and he won. And that's awesome. I really appreciate that about him. But in eleven years as a starting quarterback. Never been voted into a Pro Bowl. He's never been considered an elite level quarterback. He's always had kind of basic, you know, decent. But average the ticks. I mean, that's what he is in like, I look at the Denver Broncos. And he's an upgrade marginal. Upgrade over what they had in case keenum. And if you think all of a sudden, you're gonna put Joe flacco on the roster and not not address the issues that you have on this roster. And you think all of a sudden you're going to be you know, significantly better. I just think you're fooling yourself. Like, Joe flacco is not a full a force multiplier where he rises a raises the level of everybody else on the football team. Like, you've got to have an outstanding off. It's think about this. Joe flacco is a guy that you've got to be able to protect. He's a deep drop guy of five and seven step guide drive. The ball. You know, the the deep dig routes the deep over routes that I mean the deep ball route. That's what he's gonna throw. That's what he's most comfortable doing. So you gotta be able to protect the guy. He can't move. He's not getting out of the pocket for you. He's never been a like I'll go back to twenty four team when Gary kubiak? Doc was the offense coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens were many people feel like Joe flacco had his best season. Right. And I'll never forget watching those games and going over those games. Gary kubiak run on the eighteen nineteen. Handoff Buki bright Buki left and getting Joe flacco outside the number for you had this linear progression. Yeah. You got a full back in the flat. You've got tied in this doing a shallow crossing around. And you've got somebody on the outside. You know, your your excersi- receiver running a comeback or running? You know, running a a a corner out or whatever he's running right? And so you've got this kind of one-two-three linear progression right in front of your eyeballs. And Joe flacco just thrown dirt balls all over the place like on the run and throwing not his strong suit, and essentially a scrap pile all the Buki game and just went to straight play pass game where it's a fake eighteen hand off. And then you drop back, you know, at a seven step drop about eleven yards deep right behind the offense of tackle. And you start pushing the ball down the football field. That's what they did. Well, that's what he does. Well, he's not a boot keep game. He's not get outside the pocket quarterback. Get on the run. He's an inside the pocket quarterback guy. And I look at the Broncos, and I think you still have issues, you know, developing your your wide receiving core. You don't have tied incor- you've got to be able to run the ball. Well, and you've got the same problem that you've had for the last seven years that you haven't addressed you. Speaking of bandaids, Mike, you've tried to put band aids on offense of Lyman you've gotten mentally Guoxin failure bus. You got jeered Valdeir who you're not going to re-sign just didn't work out. You drafted Garrett Bowles who's got more. You know, he's got more tackles than than half your defensive players do. You know, and you lost your your probably your best player up front in Matt Paradis again with an injury, and he's getting older and Ronald Leary. The guy you signed to a big contract to come in. And be your starting guard. He tours the Keeley. So you got issues across the board. And you haven't been able to figure out a way to address those issues in less six or seven years. So, you know, speaking of bandaids how you gonna fix that. Because it's you know, the one thing that's been true in as I travel around the National Football League and talk to general managers, and I'm calling games or fogs. Everyone of them asked me the same thing. I mean, I must add six guys thought me last year say how would you address the lack of play on the line of scrimmage like, how would you address? Like, how would you coach your offensive line? How would you get guys? Like, how would you? How would you scou- guys? How would you like I mean, it's consistent? Mike GM's are asking me for my opinion. I'm just calling games. Like, dude. It's so bad it like you. You think the quarterbacking issue in the NFL is bad? Like, you think there's you think we're bereft of talent when it comes to the quarterback position. Try try pick an offensive lineman miss just not good. And so it's not like you're gonna find a bunch of good guy. You find three guys in free agency, the compla- it just don't if you're good and you play offense of line. You get signed a long-term deals in less. You know, you got some type of issue injury issue health issue age issue. So I'll give John Elway credit for this. He's not interested in. Hey, it's it's patients time fans its youth movement time, it's it's five years down the road time. I mean, this is a guy who's going forward. Now, you can call it misguided. Whatever you want really this guy is not interested in kicking the can down the road. He's going for it now. So if he's trying to recapture what they got in two thousand fifteen where they put together a model of adequate offense, really good. Defense. Do you? If Joe flacco is not what you call a force multiplier, and you gotta put better town around him. And you're all about trying to win in two thousand nineteen. I to me it makes sense. You gotta go after an Tony Brown. Don't you? I mean, if you're all about trying to win right now with Joe flacco, you got to put pieces around him AB might be out there. So you go after him that you can't. I mean, come on. Let's face it. Like he can't get along in Pittsburgh where he's got a player friendly coach a whole fame quarterback. Other receivers to take pressure off him like juju Smith Schuster. An offense of line that has three or four pro bowlers on it. You lose your starting running back because you can't get him son to a contract and his backup comes in at goes to the Pro Bowl. I mean, you can't get along there. Like, don't you? Isn't there? Something secretly like. Deep down inside. If I'm being really, honest. Like, if I'm going to be really honest, Mike like I root for players. I won't players have success, but don't you kinda root against in Tonio Brown? Like, don't you kind of want him to get dose of reality? Like, I kind of want him to go to some shitty organization. Some shitty quarterback is some shitty. Offense of line and some shitty. You know, tight ends and other shitty slips right and get four targets a game. Sammy Gatorade coolers, he busts. Like, that's that's kind of what I'm wishing on him. Like, I just I want you to get a dose of reality of what other guys are going through. Because I don't think you really understand you said about this. You know with offense of players are offense of wide receivers in general. I wish I could like buy you for what you're worth. And so you for what you think you're worth like for you to have any success at all ten of the guys have to do their jobs exceptionally. Well, him sniffer football. And I just don't understand the over inflated self of our sense of self worth the guys like that get so like, I kinda I'm kinda wishing. I don't know the cardinals on him or something like that. Right. Right. Like, I hope you go somewhere where you you you come to this the stark reality of oh Lord. I had it pretty good. Like that's part of my that's part of my wish. So it can't be. I can't have him here. I just can't that good fit for deals them. I mean, look Pittsburgh. If there's one franchise out there that has shown hey, we know how to slow play this. We know how to write stare get into a staredown with one of our players, and we're not going to blink first. They did it with Lebanon on bell for the last few years. Do they they've got Antonio bell? Antonio about Antonio Brown under contract for three more years in the last two are really good team friendly deals. They can make sweat this. Eat it aided this year. Like they did with a or Darom to hold out. Yeah. I mean, at least Levy on bell knew that if he held out he had free agency waiting for him Tonio Browns under contract for three years. Right. All the stopping and social media and sending letters to Steeler nation saying, hey, thanks for the he's there's nothing keeping Pittsburgh from Saint Banco. And yeah, we're not doing thing. Sorry. That'd be great. If they did that by the way, just made them like, and you're you're thirty two more years of your prime. Do you have? And then there's the report out there by Jay Glazer that OB J. He he's predicament OB j it's traded. It's goes back to your philosophy in general, Mike, just don't overpay wide receivers. You just can't overpay them. It's kind of the New England patriot way when it comes the wide receiver position. You how many people thought when all the sudden, you know, they they go out, and they get they get Gordon and Gordon makes a couple of big plays. And they finally got themselves kind of the the Randy moss replacement type of thing. And then he gets into his relapse issues and stuff and he's gone. And how many people thought, oh, they're not going to be able to? That's the one big play guy. They're not going to be able to overcome that overly. They just put their sixth ring on their finger yourself to the copycat nature of the league. They look out teams look on say, okay. The two teams that were in the Super Bowl the Rams and patriots their top receivers. Eshelman cooks had a combined cap hit that was less than I dunno manual Sanders. Pick any receiver who's making ten million plus this past year, and those two Headey combined cap it for less than that. Yeah. It's it. Why should we be overpaying for wide receivers? League says. Because I tell you what it's because the owners have been duped into believing the wide receivers doing a great job of of being such a bunch of loud mouths that. They have got owners duped into believing that you gotta have one of those guys. You got to have the showman come on. I mean, Beckham's great. I get it and stuff, but. He's really more impressive in pre-game warmups than he is in the games. Me it again. You got to have a QB. You gotta have a group. I'll just go. If you learned anything if at owner was smart. Even older was paying attention. I think they're smart. Like, there's a reason they're billionaires there. They've got some they've got some business savvy about them, obviously far more than I do. But if you really paying attention. Every game. That was one in the play offs was one on the trenches. Every single one of them show me the team that dominated the trenches. And all show you the team that won the game including the Super Bowl been the Rams got. Absolutely. They got absolutely dominated line scrimmage. The couldn't block the New England Patriots. Who don't have a like that? Don't have a real named pass rusher. You know? It's funny. Look it. Air the the Rams had two of them Aaron Donald Dominic and sue they even traded for Fowler. Who's a first rounder, and they got Brocker who's a first rounder like they went after like named pass rushers and they figured out a way to block those guys for the most part for the entirety of the game. And they gave up a hit or a sack link one sack. But for the most part, they did a great job and a bunch of no name guys from New England. Absolutely got after Jared Goff. To the point where honestly, I know adamant was the MVP, but probably should have been it. Probably it probably should have been like Hightower think Hightower had two sacks bunch tackles a lot of pressures kill more and more how to intercept it should have been probably should have been one of those guys. But I get it. You know, it's an offense of league, and you know, element was to shave his beard than him Brady were gonna go to DisneyWorld and place awards. That's awesome. They know they literally did play sorts. Yeah. To Hof was like, you can't say that. Oh, that's inappropriate. You've literally played. Yeah. They did the later. Jay I sore game. If you guys gotten a sword fight who'd win. All Mark would just bowl. Rush me. Yeah. I've we will end up shot. I'd be willing to take. What do you call those things Ed piece? I take one little epi to the like midsection knowing that I bleed for a while. I mean, but I'll get stitched he'd be like he'd be like a charging rhino like two or three shots in. It. Doesn't matter. He's just keeps snorting incoming AMI. Right. Plus, I'm too right? That was sixty nine the sporting. I'm fatter than I've been since I played right now. So it'd be hard to penetrate into anything like into my it'd be hard to penetrate. The little the little epi thing into any internal organs because you got to. I mean, it's deep it before you can't trust those organs are encased rare case in a thick layer of just kind of this kind of sinewy. Tub fat. Yeah. Yeah. It's like gristle, Greg. Gristle belly? He will be vibrate. Me. Mom, still little like a big rhino penetrating. 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And this is the funny thing whenever you by the way, can I let you know, we are on in every market every single market across this great nation. We are on we're bringing you the Stephen Smith show on ESPN radio. So we'll start here. Obviously Duke is a huge huge story. That's number one number one. A or one b or however, you want to to rank them is this Joe flacco to the Broncos another monster monster story, so. Flacco to the Broncos, and it's not just ate a move gets made. And that's it. Now, there's the domino effect, right? Because flacco to the Broncos you gotta figure that case keenum is gonna wind up moving. Elsewhere. Right. So case keenum goes elsewhere. And what does that mean for the giants? What does that mean for the other teams here as far as the domino going down? So I none of these things are allowed to be made public, right? Like, we know we have a little insight because Adam Schefter, nothing becomes official until we actually get to March. I think it's March thirteenth is the day. So March thirteenth is the day. And let's take a quick listen to our Adam Schefter about how this deal. In fact, came down between the Broncos and the ravens where the Denver Broncos. We're working to try to upgrade the quarterback position. And so Denver was able to reach an agreement in principle with the Baltimore Raymond now on trade them to Denver. That is the. Expectation they cannot process it. The teams are not allowed to discuss compensation. They're not allowed to agree on compensation. But when the trade goes down in March, I think you'll be somewhere around amid round graphic that goes in return for Joe flacco so mid around traffic now John Elway has not done well at all right? And we can agree with that. John Elway as far as the quarterbacks with he's brought in Paxton Lynch has not worked out. Well, case keenum did not work out. Well, and now you move onto the next incarnation. And that's going to be Joe flacco. I guess it's fair to say that Joe flacco has had the most success now. Maybe you look at it as one run of just unbelievable lock good fortune getting hot at the right time. But this is what Denver's new quarterback is going to look like. And it's almost like just they're going retread retread retread, right? That's that's what's happening right now would Denver. We'll go Paxton Lynch that doesn't work move onto the next guy case keenum that doesn't work we go onto the next guy. Joe flacco how about this since winning the Super Bowl with the ravens? Unbelievable, Ron what are you have twelve interceptions? And no touchdowns. Just an amazing run a hundred twenty four million dollars. He's made a hundred and twenty four. Where would you rank Joe flacco really where Joe flacco is? What is that is a middle of the road NFL quarterback? Right. That's what he is. That's what he is go around the league. And if I said to you Joe flacco, he's he's a middling quarterback. He's not an elite. He's not the bottom of the barrel. He's a middling quarterback who had one run which was unbelievable TD to interception ratio is one point four to one. That's thirty four th of the NFL I down percentage. Thirty one percent that's thirty fifth in the NFL yards per attempt. Six and a half thirty fifth in the NFL. So you look at what this guy has done or on the flip side not been capable of doing. Maybe you needed to change of scenery. Maybe needs a new offense, maybe needs the mile high air. I don't know. But do I love this trade from Denver standpoint? Do I think you win and they have a defense which is elite. Let's be fair. You look at that defense. You look at von Miller and chub and they're capable of getting to the quarterback in their secondary is still good. I don't love this trait. Now, I guess you you give very little if you're Baltimore or get very little if you're Baltimore. But the flip side of things I love this trade. I don't I don't think you're gonna win a Super Bowl with Joe flacco, isn't that the ideal here if in fact, your Denver you want to win you don't wanna get pretty good. You're under division with probably the best young quarterback in all of football. So you have to figure out a way now behind Joe flacco to jump that. And you also know, and I think we all can agree that Oakland who may not be very good right now is not going to be sitting here forever. We're not gonna be sitting here watching watching watching Oakland be bad for years by the. Time they get to Vegas. They're going to be a pretty decent football team. More from our Adam Schefter. What's the future? Because now this is the Domino's that take place. The one domino falls domino to case keenum. What's his future? I think it's hugely. Now is up in the air. I think that's the best way saying we don't know the Broncos complete them we work contract trying to trade him. I think a lot will depend on who has interest. If anybody else's interesting what they decide to do how much money shave again. I think there are no answers right now as to case teams future for one thing that we can shape is that it's up in the air, it's uncertain. And I don't think the Broncos. No at this point in time. We're the wind up doing with case keenum your fact is the new expected starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos. Well, how could you keep case keenum? You can't bring a Joe flacco pay him, case keenum and pay him forty five million dollars invested into quarterback. So I don't see that happening. And the case keenum moves on now. Who wants case keenum? I do a show in New York prior to this people say maybe case keenum to the giants yet success there. That's a stop gap. That's not a that's not a big time move forward with this guy quarterback. And that's the truth. Case keenum had the perfect year. And in many ways, these guys I guess their careers kind of MIR each other a little bit where you look at him and say, this guy's not great. And then they have a year, and you kind of swayed by it, and then maybe in the end of the day you look at it. You say, you know, what this guy's not great. Then he probably still isn't. So Stephen a Smith show ESPN radio. Dave Rothberg sitting in it at eight say ESPN, it's eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. I would be hard pressed I figure that there's a Broncos fan out there right now that could call me and say, I love this move this. This is this is the move that I've been sitting here and waiting for because I just I just don't see how that's possible. I mean. Yeah. Flacco was fine. Flacco is a middling NFL quarterback. And. Know originally, you looked at John Elway. And you thought he gets it. He was a great quarterback. He knows what it takes to be a great quarterback. And he's gonna figure out a way to get this team along the right lines. Right. Like when he's watching Justin Herbert from Oregon the world's stops everyone gets excited because of Elway's plan. Would Elway wants to do. I don't know that I trust them to be honest with you. And I think that's the truth is d it trust. Sometimes the guys who who know the most Duns. It doesn't always work. And here's from field Yates is his Twitter. All right. Listen to what John Elway has invested in as far as the quarterback position is concerned. Peyton Manning is a free agent now, obviously homerun, right? Went to a Super Bowl record setting stats went to another Super Bowl probably wasn't even playing nearly as well anyone it thanks to the defense and just his his guile and and capability Brock. Osweiler fifty seventh pick in two thousand twelve failure Trevor simian now simians hard to beat up because it's a seventh round pick. But ultimately did a pan out. No. Traded up for Paxton Lynch at twenty six in two thousand sixteen is that a win no sign case keenum to a two year thirty six million dollar deal. And now they trade for Joe flacco. So let's be fair. John Elway track record as great as he was multiple Super Bowl champion elite quarterback the whole nine yards in him. And what he's been able to do at running this franchise for a quarterback offensive minded standpoint. I think leaves a lot to be desired a lot to be desired at eight say ESPN, it's eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. And that's the question. I mean, if you go through the teams around the NFL how many quarterbacks are better than Joe flacco. I think a ton right? I mean, would you rather have rothlisburger? Of course, the Shawn Watson, Andrew lock. Mahomes. Philip rivers that Prescott an interesting one. I think that's similar Carson Wentz. No-brainer? Mitch trubisky. Vikings would certainly rather have Kirk cousins than Joe flacco Aaron Rodgers Matt Stafford drew Brees Matt Ryan Cam Newton. Jameis winston. I mean, let's just be fair. They acquired a middle of the road quarterback and for a mid round pick, which Adam Schefter said. So it's not like, you're breaking the Bank and sound like you've made some kind of a horrendous maneuver here. But I just don't know that you look at Denver right now and say to yourself boy were considerably better today than we were yesterday. I don't know that that's the case. And I think he's a good teammate. And I think he can be construed as a leader. And I think that he's obviously had that one magical run. But how long does that work for you? How how long does your reputation get you a job unless we fair the guy went out and Baltimore this year. He loses his job. He can't regain it doesn't mean that. He can't be good again. Maybe it changes scenery works. I mean, I guess it's certain. Is certainly a possibility. I just don't see it for me. This is not the move. If I'm the Broncos I want to go after one of these young kids in the draft. I wanna start young I want to I will give up because they are in a win now mentality. I wanna I wanna give up real assets to move up and get the kid that I love in this draft. And that's what you need to do. That's exactly what you need to do. If you're if you're the Denver Broncos. What they did. I don't love it. They did eight say ESPN eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. So that's kind of the one story that we wanted to spend a good bit of time on today and the other at a nowhere. So you watch Duke against Virginia over the weekend and Duke has this unbelievable win they beat up on Virginia. Truthfully, they shot lights out. They really wasn't even overly competitive game. Even though scoreboard wise kind of appeared closer than it was and you'll look at this now and they show up for this game last night and the. Run out of the building. So whether it's the fact that they didn't have the motivation. Whether it's the fact that they were a little bit. I don't know a little bit tired. I mean, they're still young kids. It's fatigue. Whatever you want to say it is right. They show up or lack thereof. They don't show up. They're getting crushed in this game fifty nine thirty six nine minutes to go. It was it was so close so close to me turning the game off and asking my wife, if she wanted to watch a show because we taped the shows tape shows, right? So we do you tape your show. It's on the DVR. And I said do you want to just watch your show? I said, you know, what give me two more minutes because it's Duke. He may give me two more minutes. Let me just see if they can make any semblance of a run back here. And all my God. I mean, not only do they start to get themselves back into this game. But they are at the point where they cut it to seven. I think they got to nine and I said. To my wife. I said dukes going to win. I have never felt all the momentum of a twenty three point lead. Go completely out of the building. And they were home by the way in the center and let that getaway that to me was unbelievable. So I see this kind of to gate two ways, a Duke and the way they were gonna come back. And this is with freshmen people, you know, the one freshman team that we look at is the fab five and how great they were. And they were, but I think you're at the point now with what this club has done and their only two losses are against Gonzaga. And that's in the Maui. Classic by two and at home against Syracuse. Were they had nobody they had nobody right? Who didn't play in that game trae Jones and Cam reddish didn't play at that game. So they have two losses by a total of I'm guessing here at four or five points. They could easily be undefeated. I think you have to start to have the conversation and time will tell as move down here, and what they turn into down the stretch on they give to start to think about having the conversation of Duke and these freshmen in comparison to the fab five and those freshmen eight say ESPN, eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six straight talk wireless, nationwide coverage on America's largest and most dependable four G L T networks, and this I love what coach K said here. Take a listen to coach K he doesn't coach losers. I told my team I said, well, you're not losers. But you're. Playing like losers and February is a crazy month because it's a long haul before March and everybody is hungry. They're trying to make their marks. And these kids can already feel like they've made a Mark. And so you're playing against somebody that can be hungrier than you. So that's a lesson for our guys and they come back from down Twenty-three, Dino at the odds are just thinking about this. You know this in game odds than it adjusts. The game is going on the odds for Duke to lose this game. We're ninety nine point nine percent with nine minutes to go in the second half on the road against the team that needed to win. And you that you talk about gut check. That's the definition of gut. Check spike in jersey, spike, you're on the Stephen Smith show on ESPN radio. It's up. Spike. Look good to hear. You're looking good to this reminds me this do team the two thousand ten Kentucky team. I believe had five in the first round my, correct? Yes. Okay. Yet this team. I think my eyes tells me three of the top four or three of the top five picks plus a generational play plus winning on the road. Plus like, you just said ninety nine percent chance, and I I was in the same boat. Switch around the Westminster kennel club shows are hung in there. And then I saw them turn to jets on and no fatigue for me. If this was just these kids are all you. Mazing three rotation. You have to rotate MBA players at a guy that are haven't seen since LeBron James this kid. You can't talk me off anything on this kid. This kid shows me no floors and his game. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. I know you're big Knicks fan if the Knicks get the number one pick is there even a debate in your mind or does it without fail half design. Williamson has to be Ryan Williams, and you have to keep them to 'cause you got him on a rookie contract. That's the key to the way the books are balanced. I don't wanna flip him fan. Anthony Davis because Anthony Davis is gotta be seven years in the league seven eight years. So twenty five years old. Pain problems by can thanks to the phone call the these are the problems that you want to have happened. That's the delicious nature of the potential of what the Knicks could have. Yeah. You bring in Durant. You bring in Kyrie Irving. You get the number one pick. What do you do with it? Whatever the hell you Kevin had says Kevin Durant says sell it. I want I want to Anthony Davis. And you know, what that gets done? He says I want to play with Zion that gets done. There's a funny image of you've seen it where literally Diana's going for the basketball and gets his hand is such an understatement. To what this thing is that he has at the end of his wrist, but this hand type thing, and he gets on top of the basketball and he squeezes it, and you can see the air deflate like there's an imprint as he gets his hand on the basketball. That's how strong this guy is now for the life of me. I sat here and said from the get-go that RJ Barrett was the guy was the guy is the guy. I'm starting to move off that a little bit to where maybe it's Zion one a RJ Barrett. One b but I still think that Barrett's going to be a big big big time. Pro John jersey, John you're on ESPN radio. What's going on? How are you? I'm gonna get this. Flacco keenum topic. Yes. Denver better today than they were yesterday. Yeah. Sure. There little bit better looking at the grading scale lacquers probably a B two C plus quarterback. Keenum's a to a C minus quarterback. And yes, I know flaxseed wouldn't rule. The ravens that defense is unbelievable. The think about why Baltimore's that they've winters and all this. They're going to breed. They're going to be a run first team seventy seven times get lady on bell think about that. It's not been reported yet to think about lady on bell. Baltimore sounds pretty good to me Levy on bell with Baltimore. Yeah. I don't know if that's the fit. I I really don't. I I don't know if you wanna go bring him him. Because remember he as great as he is. And he isn't thanks for the call John. He's at he's a handful. And that's what you have to realize that either of these Pittsburgh guys if you're going to bring in Tony Brown, if you're going to bring in lev bell. It's not just you get the production. They're great. They are difficult players. I think Brown more than bell. But it's zero Brown is he's the same guy. That's that's shooting. Facebook live in the corner of the locker room when the coach is giving them a speech about we need to focus, and we're not gonna bring outside distractions. And then he's and he's shooting a live video of this. If you can't make it work. And I know that Rothlisberger has a lot of immaturity. But if you can't make it work. In Pittsburgh with that coach with Brown. Bell Ropley burger that defense. I think at least gives you pause about moving forward with an Tony Brown or lev bell. And I'm not saying, they're not immensely talented. They are to the nth degree by think you have to have a little cause of concern. Like if I was at jets fan, and I have more money than I know what to do with is led bell and absolute slam dunk, or do you have to think a little bit beyond some of the on the field issues that this guy may have let's go to Louis in jersey Lewis is on the Stephen a Smith show. What's up? Hey, how you doing that? So you know, when something happens. They completely changes your move from positive to negative upon. We're like you start getting their stomach ache and your chest hurts talk to Denver Bronco fan. This move is literally killing me inside. Why would we go from naming a middle of the pack quarterback? That's overpaid to another quarterback. There's literally going to be overpay. Also young with making me make me want to just quit them Broncos become a neutral, NFL Senate and motherhood just cheer for thing fell team. And it's it's it's such a bad move. They need to get rid of joining before he completed this choices team. It's kinda hate this anywhere. Maybe I I gotta tell you. John Elway is going absolutely nowhere. Yeah. I know they strap in because he's he's going. He's going nowhere. All right. Do you have frequent heartburn like the kind where you have antacid stashed everywhere in case it pops up. You know, what I mean, you keep them in your bag or your desk or your car or your nights nightstand. They have those chalky tablets ready for whenever and wherever heartburn strikes. Well, listen up. There's an easier way to deal with your heartburn. It's private OTC just one pill a day will last a full twenty four hours with zero heartburn kick your aunt acid habit. It's possible to pry Lasek OTC use as directed for fourteen days to treat frequent heartburn not for immediate relief aid eight say ESPN, eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. We hope to have Seth Greenberg. Join us in the next hour hour and a half the breakdown. What we saw last night Duke. How great they are Zion. Ivory Tim, say some interesting things about John. I wanna see where he stands on that. Now as well. So flacco Duke that. That comeback. And can we start to compare this team to fab five all that coming up Rothenberg and for Stephen eight right here on ESPN radio? You may have heard Joel Embiid changed his nickname from the process to Hulu has lost sports. Does has got to be the most blatant form of advertising I've ever seen. Sources are telling me that who is paying Joel a lot of money to tell you that you can watch your favorite teams and the biggest game live on Hulu all with an okay. Well required. Start your free trial of Hulu plus live. Tv restrictions apply. Learn more at Hulu dot com. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Brian Bruno live on the scene of a recent windstorm here to describe the event a chest of drawers, there's a storm howling outside. So I thought I'd stay in and watch a rom com. 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And search wouldn't watch for the list of the wooden award late season top twenty nominees to watch as the season continues to roll on some of the nominees include Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett. And that's of course, brought to you by. Wendy's proud sponsor the twenty nineteen John r wooden player of the year award. I mean, those two last night I Cam reddish to Jonathan given. It has his most recent mock. Draft of who's gonna go where the teams don't even bother me at this point. Because you don't know who's going to go where but as far as the players one Duke was I on to Marantz three Duke with RJ Barrett and four Duke with cameras and have you noticed last night? They're starting to emphasize more and more and more cameras down the stretch. He was the guy that was getting the shots. It almost feels as if to me that they're like each individual game, depending how the game is going to go. He's going to give a different God the green light at the end because he remembered the Gonzaga game in Maui. They came all the way back from a huge deficit and coach K had RJ Barrett ticking the big shots. And in fact, he kind of made it a point of ion not taking the shots in the big moments, then and if you look at last night, it was Cam reddish who at the big three to tie it. And then hit the couple of free throws late to give them a two point. Lead the stop, and that's the way it went. So again, it's an ultimately incredibly talented team. And when you think that there's four freshman contributing this much to this team. I think the comparisons. And I'm sure Jalen rose would here in and yell at me. I think the comparisons have to at least be made of the fab five these are four freshmen that dominate this team scoring rebounding assists, the whole way through and they have all year, and they will continue to do. So edited say ESPN eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. We'll hear from Dan or lofty on the move by the Broncos bringing in Joe flacco in just a moment. Let's go to some of your calls, and let's go to Zack in queens. Zach you're on ESPN radio. Hey, how you doing? What's going on Zack? I think the truth of the Broncos, honestly was was brilliant. It didn't cost them much. If you look at their team right now, they're defensive team. They're not gonna win with any quarterback as an offensive juggernaut. They're not gonna outscore you know, the cheese. You're not gonna outscore the Rams the saints the way they wanna win is the way they wanna pay demanding demanding was terrible quarterback when he wants to roll. He's a great goal. The goal is not doing a terrible quarterback and be able to win a Super Bowl. The goal is to have at least a functional if not really good quarterback in win just because you locked in. And you had an all time defense there. It's not fair to compare that paint many lead team to Joe flacco. I'd rather flacco throwing the ball in the fourth and case keenum fine. If that's what floats your boat. I don't think I don't think you're winning anything with either of those guys. Winning with your teeth. Be you wanna set up your teeth ends with a functional quarterback. And I think flock owes more a quarterback you, okay? Demanding. Is gonna game. That's fine. And maybe you're right. We'll see I don't love this move. I mean, you just go from a stopgap to a stopgap to a stopgap to a stopgap for once. You'd like them to make move and say, okay, that's the quarterback. Even if it means moving up in a draft, and and mortgaging the future. I mean, you are outside of the quarterback on Denver your win. Now. So enough games being played move up sacrifice. A pick sacrifice of first round picks, acrobat, whatever if I looked at and listen, I'm a giants fan and I desperately want them to take Dwayne Haskins. But if I'm Denver, and I look at Dwayne Haskins or drew lock or Daniel Jones. I say this is the kid that's going to be good for the next twelve years. I get him because my defense is not going to be playing at this level forever. Chris and south Florida's on the Stephen a Smith show. It's up Chris. Hey, how you doing today? I wanna know what was once your opinion on Antonio Brown with question the trade from the Steelers really think that he'll end up in that. Boy. I honestly, I have no idea. I think what team is willing to part with the most. Right. I think San Francisco's and interesting landing spot. I think the jets routine that certainly needs talent they have a young quarterback that they would probably want to give him some help. But this is a guy. It's not just you bring him and you do he's an elite wide receiver. But it's not so simple that you just bring in an elite wide receiver. He's got a lot of baggage. That comes with them. Chris a lot. Yeah. It is true. Well that, but that's all I wanted to ask thank create it. Not. You're very welcome. It'd eight say ESPN eight eight eight seven nine three seven seven six. Let's take a listen to Dan Orlovsky. He was on. What was the on? That's that's a great question was on the twelve o'clock. Sportscenter would David, Lloyd. And here he gives a couple of comments saying Joe flacco just hasn't looked all that engaged in playing football lately. I don't know if there's an erosion and skill. It's more enrollment of do you want to actually be playing football are completely? They're wanting to be that leader fully invested year in and year out day after day. It just seems like Joe is kind of pulled back because of the situation from being that Super Bowl MVP and going on that run to where we see him. Now, he doesn't seem to be the scene engaged guy. Maybe he's done what he's wanted to do. And maybe that ship has and maybe not maybe he winds up in Denver, and he's reinvigorated, and he has a lot left that he's capable of producing something. I don't know. I. Like going from stopgap to stop stopgap to stop gap. And that to me is what it feels like they're doing out in Denver is this an upgrade for the Broncos of the quarterback spot. I mean, it certainly upgrade. I don't know. How big of an upgrade it is. It's not much and I understand that. Joe flacco symbol MVP. But where they are right now in their careers. Joe flacco in case keenum, they're kind of the same guy. Both guys are going to be relying on the run game. And try not to turn the ball over. And you're not going to win games because of Joe flacco, which is what the prior caller said. He's right. You're not winning games. Because of Joe flacco, you might not lose games because of him. But look at this division new look at the quarterbacks, even if you don't like Derek Carr. He's still a decent quarterback. So you got Mahomes. You got Derek Carr. You got Philip rivers. And you got Joe flacco which doesn't belong in. 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It's not very much. All right. Well, I appreciate the phone call. I do not agree with that. I mean, you you bring you're bringing in quarterback after quarterback, and they're just they're stopgaps at this point. You thought Lynch was the answer. Clearly, it wasn't Payton at the end. You know, you're dragging him around out on the field. And and you won almost in spite of him. Case keenum, clearly wasn't the answer. Trevor simian who they tried to buy time with him wasn't the answer. And I don't know why anyone would think Joe flacco would be the answer. Either to be honest with you, Mike in Staten Island is on ESPN radio. It's mikey. Hey, what's going on? I just wanted to ask. What do you think? The Steelers can get for in Tonio Brown. And also, do you think that completely turned the tide for the Steelers and the team do I think it makes them a better team by moving on from an Tonio Brown or worse? I mean, I'd have to say it's gonna make them worse unless he is such a polarizing cancer in the locker room to take. I mean, if you look at what he's done the last nine years he has put up the best nine year run potentially in NFL history at the receiving spot. So you can't upgrade if he's that difficult and that much of a disaster at the receiver position, and you become better than I feel badly for the new team that he winds up on. What what is it gonna take to get him? I I would think you're gonna have to. With at least a pretty good too. If not more than that. You know? I mean, the I don't think anybody's going to give a one unless it's a low around one. And how about coming out and saying the Steelers commencing we will deal him anywhere. But New England and our division we won't trade him there. So now, you're taking off what that's that's four teams that are now off the board. To mazing no-one no-one wants to do any favors for the patriots. And somehow they take whatever they can get their hands on and turn it into a Super Bowl champion CB Pasadena. You're on ESPN radio CB. Well, thank you, David dick, and my call and black history month, I give all the adulation to everybody for black history month. But you know to reiterate on Joe flacco, I think it's good. You know, they're trying to better themselves. You know, Joe flacco season veteran. But you know, I'll be how is he? Yeah. How good is he still flock? Joe flacco is about sixty five six sixty bucks. Nine out. Good is he how good of a quarterback? Do you think he is at this point of his career? He's a he's a playoff quarterback. Absolutely. He's a season veteran and Dave. And and I think he would bold. Well, he's gonna be in the AFC, west Mahomes, of course, from Kansas City. You know, he was lights out this year. So when you the MAC in that division, even he's the worst quarterback in that division right away. What they're calling the raiders fan. So I mean there carding do that. Well, either we only won four games. Yeah. But look at look at the team and look at the town. They stripped it down they traded their best defensive player of their their best receiver. I'm a giants fan. I need a quarterback. If you said, Dave, you could have Derek Carr or you could have Joe flacco. I I will meet I will meet Derek at the airport and pick them up myself. You would take over. Manny. Well, first of all, that's. Listen, don't get it to my psyche era. You're asking me questions, I'm not prepared to answer right now. This is very personal to me. It's time to von from Eli manning. Yes, it's time to move on. I'm not sold on Derek Carr. You need like you said, we got rid of Amari, Cooper, and Khalil. I didn't know Khalil Mack. Was that good? And I didn't know Khalil Mack was an impact player what you learn raiders fan where you're raiders fan. And you had no idea that Khalil Mack. Is that good because we were some Paul. We were very pedestrian performances, you know in the past. And so you really never stood out with him. When he got the bears Hughes electric, he was extra terrestrial. He was inner planted Kerry and one of the best players in the league almost MVP. I didn't know he was at good. Yeah. He's terrific. Thanks for the call. All right. I've spent weeks warning you guys everybody has Valentine's is here. It's tomorrow. This is it you've only got today to make this happen. Please. Do it right and win Valentine's with one eight hundred flowers dot com right now. One eight hundred. Flowers as amazing offers on beautiful, Valentine's bouquets and arrangements starting at just twenty nine ninety nine. There is still time to have you bouquet delivered on Valentine's Day, but you have to get moving to order, beautiful and vibrant, Valentine's bouquets starting at just twenty nine ninety nine go to one hundred flowers dot com. Click the radio icon and enter code Stephen. Hey, Valentine's Day is tomorrow. Order today and save at one eight hundred flowers dot com, code Stephen A. Flacco Duke to topic's going to carry us today. Roth arena for Stephen A ESPN radio. Guess what you're in the middle of the Stephen swift show podcast. Dammit made it all right? Dave Rothberg in for Stephen. He's continues to to battle the flu. So wish him will big trade in the NFL today. It doesn't become official till I think March thirteenth, but it's it's done in principle. Fourth round pick goes to the ravens in exchange for Joe flacco. He goes to the Broncos. They expectation is that the Broncos will either release or I guess attempt to trade case keenum. So that's certainly has a lot of moving parts and other teams we need a quarterback the giants. Need a quarterback the dolphins now whether the dolphins assigned to tank a season or not and play for two or tank two seasons and play for the kid from Clemson Lawrence remains to be seen Jacksonville. That's the thing Jacksonville. And and Denver kind of in similar situations where they have these really really good defenses and really really lousy. Quarterbacks. Now, I will sit here and tell you that flacco was better than Blake Bortles. But I don't think he's all that much better than Blake Bortles. All right. If you missed any of the show today, you can go check it out on demand in the Stephen a Smith podcast brought to you by Capital One capital on his re imagining banking, offering accounts with no fees or minimum minimums that can be opened and just five minutes capital. One. What's in your wallet? Eight eight eight say ESPN eight eight seven to nine three seven seven six. Let's go to Anthony in Virginia. You're on ESPN radio. Tony. Hopefully, you're part what the John's going to do about Email our. And what round they have in the draft coming up. Well, I I mean, I'll do the best. I can't explain to you. So the giants have the six pick in the draft. I don't know that the quarterback if they want one we'll be there, and that's probably Dwayne Haskins. So you probably have to move up. If that's the case, I I was reading something yesterday. It said. Cuyler Murray at five seven or five eight or even if he, you know checks taller than we think five nine probably not the route the giants would realistically consider going in. So I listen this is free lie. Whether he grooms a quarterback this year or whether the giants who von from him this year the ship has sailed it's time to move on. And I know when you have a guy thanks for the call Anthony who's been such a huge cog such a tremendous peach piece in such a a storied franchise that sometimes that can be difficult. But at what point I mean, again it he's he's a great leader. He's a great guy. He's a great teammate. He's a great humanitarian, he's he's from football royalty. But at what point if you're the giants do say, let's rip the band aid off it's not gonna work anymore here. It hasn't worked for a number of years. So be Haskins. I don't know if they like drew lock. I don't know who it is. But they need to absolutely unequivocally. Figure out a way to get the next quarterback now denied need seats to a game. Download the vivid seats Eappen enter promo code champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order don't buy just any seat get a vivid seat seventy Sixers Lakers. We gotta get into that Lakers. Very disappointing other horrendous loss Duke with one of the great wins that you can remember in college basketball history. Con back from down twenty three with nine minutes to play. So we have a lot to do. Our number two Rothenberg in for Stephen A right here on ESPN radio and the ESPN stash. Just a sample of what you'll hear on the Stephanie swift show weekdays at one PM eastern on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Data rates may apply to become okay for men to be Lazier softer fatter. 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"The Dan Le Batard, Woodstock Gotcha podcast is brought to you by capital on capitol. One is reimagining banking offering accounts with no fees or minimums that can be opened in five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet Capital One and a member FDIC? Allison put it on the poll, please. Can it be the biggest shot in NBA history? But happens in the second round this guy Rondo star Taga for Rick. Madonna took one of the greats ords photographs you will ever see of the final shot. The quiet Leonard had the expressions on the faces. Obviously were amazing because it was right before the ball went in. And they knew what had happened. Rick joins us now on ESPN radio. Thank you for joining us. What do you like best about the shot as a professional career photographer? What's beyond the faces? Is there any one specific thing that you like the best? Well, actually, I think it is about the faces. And I think it's about the emotions, right? 'cause that's what generally makes a great pitcher at least in my line of business. And so you've got three different faces different emotions looking at the exact same moment. So one thing that adds to that. I think is that you don't see the ball. Right. So there's been attention because everyone's looking at something that you don't know what they're really looking at, but they all have three different expressions of the same moment. So how many photos were you choosing from when you happened upon that one and said, holy blade. Look what I got. At the end of the game. You know, it's all about the celebration or the dejection. So I think when I look through it yesterday, there's probably maybe thirty or forty frames altogether of those faces. I think there's about seven or eight frames. So yeah, it was a matter of like, which one do I pick, you know? Whereas Lloyd does he kind of fill that little use shape? How much is indeed kind of leaning in. But the the kicker is gotta be cool. I hung sitting out especially kind of off to the side. Now that was the tiebreaker for you him. I'm looking licking his lips is what made you say. Okay. From among these seven, this is the one I'm taking you gotta know, man. Like this thing took forever. You know, put shot up standing there. Then all of a sudden he starts crunching down. And then I see the sun come out. And I'm like, okay. What is taking for? So long and yeah, a little Michael Jordan. You know, throwback maybe. But yeah. For me the tongue had a lot to do with it. And then Embiid leading in and then just thinking, okay. This is a done deal at this point. Did you know upon looking at it? This is one of the best photographs I've ever taken. Did you think that? Oh, I thought, you know, this is this is a nice moment for the actual moment. That's happening. It's what's going on around the pitcher since then to me personally is a little surreal. But yeah, if people love it people love, it some people find other frames of it a little better or a little different. But I'm to this moment still pretty happy with the frame is it the best picture you've ever taken unsound like it. I won't go dot com. I mean, Rick. It's really really good. I mean, but he's taken a lot that we haven't seen. So I'm curious. So when the reaction sweeps you up what has it been when you say, it's been a little surreal? Well, just because you know, social media kinda takes things over and everyone has a voice these days back ten fifteen years ago. This would have been a discussion maybe amongst the the photographers in the building as opposed to you know, the entire world, especially when people like trade get involved and start tweeting it so, but you know, in thirty four years, the it's hard to say if facts my best pitcher I've ever taken Rick Madonna with us Toronto Star. We've got skeptical Billy here who believes in the digital age that you could just be camera's shuttering from a million miles away and happened into a great photograph. Ricky was in the photo club back in seventh or eighth grade. Let's go. Yeah. That's right thing. Mr rick. I'm trying to explain to them as a fellow photographer. It's not exactly what they think, you know, now, especially with digital cameras, and you know, lend speed and all that stuff, you can kind of take a million pictures and then photography as I was explaining to them. Think you'll agree with it's more clerical now than really anything like you kind of do the work on the front end. And you pick a good spot. And then you just push a button, and it takes a thousand pictures, and then you kind of get lucky you just sift through all of it. And you sort your pictures out. And he said, yeah, this is a good one. Right. I mean, I think you can you can't disagree with that. Absolutely not. And I think my iphone from up there would have done just an exceptional job. How many filters did you think of applying to that? Did you think of maybe putting? Don't. No talent. That's not what I would really say. His defense is the photography game has gotten a little bit easier with technology. That's all like Ricky would have felt better. If you got that thing with just one shot on man. Go back to the days of speed traffic when they only had one frame, and if you miss you. Mr. Rick was at his finest. When you only had one or two shots take the right shot on Mr. Rick before he put out that picture was that we was thinking should I put on the filter for Snapchat? We're Kyrie's wearing the flower crown what like how much of that goes into your work. What what snap tap now? Come on. How many thought on my phone? I'll tell you that. All right. We've insulted the man now he agrees. I think we're friends I think he would agree that, you know, photography. It's more of a compiler game. You kind of take as many pictures as you can't. And you just hope one of them sticks. Sure. And everyone else in the world is trying to do the same thing. So right. It's one of those things where for buying tires career people have said, well, you only worked for one thousands of the second anyways. But yeah, finding the spot being there and then. Yeah. Keeping it in focus and making sure the composition and the exposure. And all of that. Then was in focus. Omitting the ten thousand word in focus and you accidentally had your finger in front of the lens like forgetting about all those mystery. Let's forget about the editing process and the next two minutes because you know, the papers about the clothes, and I gotta get this there. Otherwise, no, one sees it. Another advantage the editing process. There you go faster easier. I I'm pretty sure and Rick will let you go on this note was that your polite Canadian way of telling Billy to bleep off. Well, most people who know me know, I would have just told them directly, but we're on live radio. Right. So I can't do that very mad. Congratulations on the photo. Rick. I'm sorry that we came. We had you on to celebrate you, and then Billy just spent the whole segment insulting. That's okay. I'm I as a target for I get rigged hell of a lot. So I'm kinda used to. Oh, no, Chris coming here and sue them. I'm sad right now. You got the picture? I mean, you're on the radio show, you're on ESPN today. No one else is there's no other photographers coming on ESPN today. Rick. You'll good about yourself. Thank you. Billy. You there? You know, this isn't that stirs the pot stirs the pot this and that and and seventh grade photography. All right. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Wow. Just while rough this and that this and that it's what it should say on his business card. He should honestly say Billy Gill ESPN this and that. Transition time for some ants. That guy hates us. Such a bad spot. You put yourself in a on that grief. So you can sleep in the help me out Bill. I was trying to help you. To let you guys in tricks of the trade is a form of a tiger for just bury me like if I'm taking shots at this. What's happening just said that there was no talent to getting that shot. You did just say that. It was all luck did say that you want to take a good picture trying to picture of birds those things fly that's hard. You said it was clerical. I mean, we all need to get into this. You're right though, moving target stugatz here. Hiring is challenging, but there's one place you can go or hiring is simple, fast and smart a place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. That place is recruiter dot com slash Dan, ZipRecruiter, send your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards, but they don't stop there. No, they don't they're powerful matching technology. 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Geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected. Like if danger is your roommates middle name. Visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance donlevatar. Well, Charlie sent Charlie had this Charlie as far as I know. So just Charlie's title a money. You're going to stay stugatz. How how familiar were you at the time with trebek like how your upbringing how how had how much in these these live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So give me some draft observations apart from the one that we've been obsessing on all morning, for example. I heard guts come in here. He's very comfortable. Judging the appearance of others, and he's just like Horace Grant Jesus throwing a salad every now. And then I mean, wow. Patrick Ewing same. I'm concerned about these guys. These are some of the guys who grew up watching and I love them -cerned. Joan chicken. Hoping for. Everyone though. Shot at you wrote. I've got she got in all directions. A couple of observations that are extraneous one was Rachel Nichols was really trying to convince us that socks was a good nickname for Elliot Perry. Yes. Tried and it's just a terrible nickname nickname in the house. It's just it's just a terrible nickname. So put that on the poll, please Alison it's socks the good nickname for Elliot perr. And then when he got the second pick he was the grizzlies guy. Right. She's like see. It was good luck. It's like really socks Perry. I think between those two markets. I think they're at about a million television sets the two markets that got the first two picks. I'm not I'm not making that up, but they're the they're both the smallest NBA TV markets with a little over five hundred grand in terms of televisions in their market. So if Zion Williamson was upset last night, or if people were upset it's because this is these guys are going to the smaller teams, the Duke guys though, I was saying. During the local hour. The Duke guys you saw their age in those interviews you might not see it in their play. But those were children those are children who haven't been polished in the arts of doing sports interviews and Zion. Williamson looks in every way like no child you've ever seen. He's a freshman in college. I actually like felt badly for me was the center of attention naturally probably needs to get used to that though moving forward. But we forget that he's an eighteen year old nineteen year old all these guys for the most part are eighteen and nineteen years old at an exile on just experience that we were all shocked at home, and he was sitting there like, wow, I thought I was going somewhere, and I'm going somewhere else that he was shocked by well. I'm just talking about their interviews though. Like how little they were giving the people they were talking to Jay Williams, Jay Bilas, Rachel Nickell. Keep asking like follow up questions. Follow up question. 'cause you're filling the time and these guys aren't giving you sound bites. They're they're not giving you anything that says. Wow. Yes. Those are Duke students and I love their personalities. They're just sort of kids their kids. Now, you see how good a job Duke did sort of hiding those guys for an entire season while we all play pretend with the academics. Because they're there to go to school for a year and then get out and they're there to get a diploma in basketball. And again, I don't mean this as an indictment of those two kids because most soft Moore's that I talked to in college freshman college. We don't want to interview them around here because they don't have anything to say they haven't lived yet. They haven't they haven't gone and gotten a full education. I'll ask you all the time. If you want, you know, college football players or college basketball players, and you say, no respectfully, but your reasoning is exactly that they're in UCLA one hundred percent all see where you're like. Wow. These are franchises being built around. Baby faces. Yeah. Baby faces who aren't used to the media game. And have to be no matter how many lights and crowds. It's such a different things to got. They can go out there with all the confidence in the world in front of twenty thousand loud people who hate them, but stick a single microphone in the face of one of these guys and just put the spotlight on him and have him talk. When perhaps he doesn't have the same confidence in talking. I see this with Latin players all the time Latin baseball players you put them in front of people in a lot of pressure. No problem. I got confidence over here. But now, I gotta talk, and I gotta be interesting. And I gotta be inciteful, and they were just talking in real clipped bites. There isn't anything from the personalities that you're seeing other than a smile from Zion. Williamson that would suggest star in the making personality nothing zero some other draft. Observations are Kyle Kuzma, he'll look good. He also looked like he didn't want to be there. He also looked like when they got the fourth big a man who knew he's about to get your aided. All that stuff is what you saw in Kyle crews all happened as a big night for the Lakers. It really was. They were the big winners indefens- of the players though. It's possible that they don't say anything because they haven't been drafted yet. So you don't want to say the wrong thing. So they could almost be intentionally neutered. And hey, listen, don't say anything too. Controversial don't say anything to interesting just kind of wait to be drafted number one. And then be yourself because you don't want to cause yourself millions of dollars trying to be too much. But think of it this way. Okay. Because I really don't mean it as an indictment of them. How confident would you have been on ESPN as a freshman coming out of high school your freshman in college doing I'm the center of the universe right now? All of my dreams are taking place in front of me. This is the NBA. That's Adam silver. These are league. That's Patrick Ewing, a legendary basketball figure and now I'm being introduced to this world. And it it felt like. A bit like the children's table and an adult wedding. I would've nailed it. That is straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless, everything for less only at WalMart. Put it on the poll, please Alison at lebatardshow, Instagram and Twitter. Would you have been great at interviews when you were a freshman in college. Because I don't think anybody here other than God's thinks that I certainly wouldn't have. I know how frayed I was just standing in front of a billiard table doing a report on the student union for the cable access station. Like, I just turned on the Cameron. I was scared. I'm terrible at it. Now donlevatar, Chris what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? The last six quarterbacks for the Washington Redskins all have four letters in their first name. Stugatz. Kirk cousins, Alex Smith Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez, Josh Johnson. And now case keenum, that's one of the least interesting things I've ever heard VC's live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. So we got some sound to get to that. I wanna play for you athletes, lacking self-awareness department Joe flacco and Terry rosier have been kind enough to give us the sound that we can turn into daily content on our networks. But before we do that. I wanna wish a happy forty ninth birthday to a guy that I think Billy might call a compiler. Unfairly Emmett Smith and happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck on his fifty is. He fifty okay yesterday. We got the job of rob gronkowski. This seems like a pretty simple thing right to getting the age right on someone's birthday. But no, I want you talk to the website. I got it from the get a wrong stood dollars blaming someone else. Run. You in fairness while it's a year older. It's really only the difference of a day. So like yesterday he was forty nine today. He's fifty you know, the big five O in fairness for us getting people's birthdays and ages wrong. I'm just trying to cover up, man. Sound of Emmett Smith that I always think of as a broadcaster at ESPN whenever it is that I think of Emmett Smith instead of, you know, great at running back and one of the toughest most courageous performances I've ever seen him playing NFL running back with a separated shoulder. But this is how I think of it. Rolled out with boom when you talk about humble pie. You hear the pages promote humble pie and they have promoted humble pie. All year loan a slice of that humble pie. Having the ability to have a short term memory, which means don't worry about the game. We just one of the team that we just blew out blow blown out this think about what we need to do going forward. And they had blown out. All he has done is lettuce team to nine row wins. He has his team in a position right now. They went today they can possibly go into the role of making the peers their free. Go ahead. Thirteen cares now thirteen care for seventy two yards. Now, the reason why he did get any more is because you didn't get enough. I down a hail coup. JJ shah. What you were saying about it back to safety. I tell you what they better they better give him minds. Right because they will be on the cover of insane magazine, this consistency. Play. Busy team. Ringling will get you completely blowed out. The Rams are not very good ally. Manning had been given the rights of passage. The patriots defense was one of the weakest link of the chain. But what happened the night the strength of the patriots team got the buckled. Here malone. Now, would you do me the favor plays of just isolating his difficulty with L O cool J and how he Peters out after the fact still trying to get LL cool J, right? And I think he calls him JJ at a second point alkyl JJ. All right. That's the best sport song. Right. That that we had in the background there. I mean, there's nothing better than that song. It's great. It's the best one before we get to isolated L. Cool JJ sound. I wanna get to a scary, Terry Rozier and Joe flacco and gets to God's his thought. So here's Joe flacco talking about the fact that he does not care to mentor. Drew lock. And he is forgetting evidently Joe flacco is that statistically he was about the worst quarterback in the NFL. I think that is like I said it's kind of riches job, you know. And it's and it's and it's to be in that quarterback room and and watch and that's how you can develop. Listen, I got so many things to worry about. I'm trying to go out there and play good football. I'm trying to go out there and play the best football my life. So as far as time constraint and all that stuff. You know? I'm not worried about developing guys or any of that, you know, that is what it is. And like I said, I hope he does develop. But I don't look at. As my job. My job is to go win football games for this football team. I have no issue with that. I mean flacco is is thirty three years old. He probably thinks he has more in the tank he probably thinks he's not in the mentoring part phase of his career right now. And he doesn't feel like it's his job. He is fighting with that guy. Verse starting job. I'm actually I'm actually okay without he's thirty three still feels like he can play quarterback of wants to play quarterback. I mean is he trying to make news now just lie? Them out. Yes. Lie say, you know, what I'm gonna try to help them out as much as I can. Then don't help him at all and do things to sabotage him behind. This thing. Isn't this kind of Josh Rosen was saying like, I don't wanna be here. If you've already picked Tyler Murray, and he is a year removed from being the number one pick where Joe flacco has had a career he has a Super Bowl, and he has his replacement coming up. But it's the same thing if anything I would think Josh Rosen is more understandable because his career just started and payment crushed him for that the quarterbacks get so good at not giving you the sound. That is controversial the quarterbacks. This quarterback has never said anything interesting. This quarterback is cardboard cutout of a quarterback. He doesn't say interesting things. Why wouldn't you just lie in that circumstance? Instead of saying the thing that will get us to argue about your quarterbacking situation. Honesty is always the best policy. Dan. That's a motto I like to live by so he just told the truth there. I mean. I don't believe the chickens should even be summoned there. When you've got got saying honesty is the best policy. Let's go to the Terry Rozier sound before we get to this L JJ situation. The Terry brassieres sound on. I take Terry. Rozier stays forgetting then he went to fourteen in a game seven when he could have eliminated. Lebron James at home. This is what he says on. I take if Kyrie's back. I'm not if the Boston Celtics game to you, right? And I said to you we buy back teams compete exactly the way it was this past year. Do you want to stay in Boston? Now on my on my have to go I have to go. You know, I put a put a. What a lot this year. So you know, I say what I say after season. I think we all know that won't I'm not trying to step in into that again. Scary dairy Ivy. Dan, listen, I told you at the beginning of the season it is hard, but you are thrusted into the starting position. And you take your team to game seven in the Eastern Conference finals, whether it was because of you are not and it certainly wasn't because if Terry Rozier, although he had a couple of good games that run he wants haste to that. He was the best Terry Rozier any of us have ever seen nuking Eric Bledsoe in the playoffs. But he's a terrible shooter. And they can't give him a high usage rate, or what will happen is. You will lose to LeBron game seven he's gone to for four at home and can't make anything. Yeah. But the game before that he had twenty eight boys on ten to sixteen shooting. And he remembers that things he could do that on a more consistent basis if he's the starting point guard somewhere else, I don't blame them. I don't blame them for thinking that he's confident in his abilities. Not surprising that you would endorse selfish. Snus at every turn from flacco. And Terry Rozier that you wouldn't care about team constructs. I don't particularly care about them either. These guys though at this point in their careers aren't good enough to be making waves with headline. But his team went further than Kyrie's too. I mean that they about that. If you Terry Rozier, I mean, let's forget about the combined five of twenty nine he was in game. Five seven also forget how much weaker the east was then. And now that Milwaukee Toronto Philadelphia or a hell of a lot better than I. Let's get to that Emmett Smith sound. I just want you to hear him leaking confidence here as he does he ever get it. Right. One on LL, cool J? He never gets it. Right. It is a hail cool JJ show. You back deficit. What's he saying that helped me there? He says J J J three times JJ. All right. So he's trying. He's trying to correct it. And to put the two wells in front of cool j but he keeps getting stuck on on a stuttering. Jay. Reported. You know what? Now, I'm here. He might go to the clippers. It'd get better. If you came out said doesn't matter we had them use going crazy just missed them. He's in a bad place. He was on. Golick and wingo, saying I love my job. But if I could ever take a day off today would be that like he is just in a bad way today. All over. He is he's in his body language, is terribly seems to have lapsed into prayer here. He's talking to fat Joe fat Joe is wearing something amazing that that jacket. How would we describe that? Why would we describe the jacket that federal Joe is where wearing right now on I it's almost as if snake was somehow shiny and furry at the same time. Even I Smith has been beside himself since last night. He is he is hurting. He is a Knicks fan. He has been openly recruiting Kevin Durant to New York. Most of this season through his takes just by celebrating him and stopping all the feuds with him. And now he is broken because you guys got the New York knick fan filled with unearned arrogance always hopeful this bite fifteen straight years of incompetence and diluted expectation today's this day man, if he was on vacation he would come on vacation to be on the air. It's there's no way that he would take today on I probably agree with that. Now, I'm just in a bad place. I'm sorry. The jets according to Adam Schefter fired their GM and VP player personnel. I mean, you might wanna do those things before the draft. Here comes on a truck yet. It. Which part don't you might want to do that. Mike McCallion is out and Brian Aymer dinger's out of the things you might want to do before the draft and free agency. That's. Was going on there. Digging while others are sagging. Why are you dancing? Chris cody. What's the dance about? As we might have a photographer on in the next segment. Oh, no, noon, really. Really? Very excited. You guys first of all is this what I heard God's talking about during one of the breaks. I wanna create international photographer beef because you guys wanna talk. How much you want to set this up? Alison, the photographer that's coming on with us. I don't even know what this is this this person over here said find meal lifer. Who yes, you you didn't tell me to go find. Well. Okay. So for those of you who weren't listening. This is what happened. We had the photographer that had the kyri shot on the kyri photograph. Oh, why buddy? Or there you go. Kawai, and we were saying how photography has gotten a little bit easier as you know, things have progressed. So we found the photographer who took the famous sunny listened photo with Mohammed Ali and he's going with us. I'm just curious who found we found we found the photographer that took the famous photo of Muhammed Ali. He's gonna come on. And tell us how tiger fee was a lot harder back. Okay. Very good. As we continued to dismiss this meal lifer. Yeah. He's great. He's famous very famous photographer. Donlevatar is shop no longer a high school class of any sort. Don't think. So there's only in the movies. I I don't know anyone who ever went to high school where they had like woodwork as a class my dad. Did you made a lamp actually? Stugatz. I'm trying to think of more useless contribution to the show. Then my father made a lamp and woodwork. I wouldn't Lance evidently Roy's evidently, ROY grew up. The hardscrabble times of wouldn't lamps made by your father nights. Wired it and everything. Yeah. Yeah. It worked. Yeah. No public school systems really failing us. I couldn't make a lamp ahead to put it on the poll. Could you make a lamp these these are show with this Stu gods on ESPN radio? So the New York Knicks last night had a chance hopeful chance before they became a laughing stock again to get into the top two of a draft that had two stars in it. And we think we think, but I mean you wanted one of two guys that's what you went into last night. The reason there's disappointment is because you finished third. Yep. And Knicks fans are hurt and wounded and Stephen a Smith is doing videos in the dark and Jorges Sodano comes through Miami. And now does drive time afternoon. Drive in Los Angeles had this reaction live on the air. So lakers. That's fine. That's good to trade asset. That's still great pick goes to. He's still staying. Anyway. Maybe is a great reaction journalist Jorges anon-. Oh. With the just three killers syllables use still stink. The jets here are taking the time in this is fortune. That is all about laughing at the Knicks to release this statement through Christopher Johnson that they're firing their GM and VP of player personnel. The quote, the statement from Chris Johnson is this what Johnson's kids to. Yes. This morning. I informed Mike that he was being relieved of his duties general manager of the team affective immediately. Mike help to execute the strategic vision of the organization during the last four seasons, and especially the past few months. However, I came to to the decision to make a change after much thought and careful assessment of what would be in the best long-term interest of the jets. I will start a search for a new general manager immediately in the interim coach gas will be the acting general manager I would like to thank my. Time and effort during his tenure, and I wish the best for him and his wife Betty. Adam that was truly the gates of the franchise. I mean, my team stake land what a Bermuda triangle that portion of the country is for good sports things. Got gettleman. Unbelievable. The jets are trying to sneak in with the news. Hey, the guy who this lady on bell. And did the drafting this year never mind about him. He's gone a few weeks after the draft. I really thought the witches were going to work. And the rabbi. Breeze. Oh my God. That's what we need actually gone. I like the idea of other New York teams taking the lead from you know, what is a good day to announce some stuff. Like the giants are like do we have anything here we need to announce? The jets totally buried this others. I on Williamson is I mean, it is colossally Dom for them to do this today. I wonder what the ranges in Ireland is now the a joke. Douglas because Adam gazes close to Joe Douglas. He's the vice president player personnel for the eagles. As you pretty good. I'm gonna give mood again. This is the thing about you should have heard him before. Hey, dan. I think the way this worked out now all of a sudden teams can't trade Zion. Williamson four Anthony David because they're on the same team. So he sees trying to talk myself out. I'm watching him during the break falling apart, his soul, splintered and pieces and ashes saying, well, maybe there's a bright side. I'm an idiot.

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BGN Radio #37: Eagles' Offseason Primer

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BGN Radio #37: Eagles' Offseason Primer

"Ladies and gentlemen. Can I please have your attention? I've just been handed in urgent and horrifying news story. All of you. Listen. Hello, bleeding, green Dacian and welcome back to VGA in radio. This is episode number thirty seven on John stolas from bleeding green nation dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis. We got a lot to get to here on episode number thirty seven we're gonna talk about Joe flacco as they say in Baltimore going to a trade going to Denver. And what that might mean for the Nick foles market will look at potential eagles draft target that unfortunately had a serious medical setback in wonder whether or not it's still worth the eagles taking him, maybe even just a little bit later than that. We'll look at golden Tate versus Nelson galore will look at some possible eagles cap casualties and the eagles possibly playing on thanksgiving. Again this coming year. We'll get into all that here in just a couple minutes with the man behind bleeding green nation dot com. The man the mid the legend may he reign forever. Brandon league out in joins me. Once again, you can follow Brandon on Twitter at Brandon Gouten Beal, gee, we are in the dead time right now. My friend. How you make it through it John wrong. And it's funny because the NFL is very rarely in a dead period. We usually have that most infamous dead period in between where you know, the tease minicamps wrap up in June then training camp begins in late July. That's usually the biggest period of inactivity. But there's also this period that we have right now going on before the combine before free agency and everything after the season ends that's pretty dead as well in. It's almost as easy to forget that especially in the last year since we were so hyped up on the Super Bowl for pretty much the entire off-season. But now we're getting this little rest despite that we still have a decent. Nothing to talk about yet. What's nice about this particular dead period? Is there still a lot of stuff in front of us? Beal, gee, there's free agency. And there's the draft, and I know kissed and Seoul getting into the draft. And we'll start talking about draft stuff to hear over these next few weeks. But obviously the eagles have a lot of decisions to make with the guy's already on their roster and free. Has yet to begin? And so the possibility of bringing in new talent is always something exciting to talk about. So at least you can we can preview that kind of stuff we're going to do a little bit of that on the podcast here today. But the first thing we're going to get into here is once again, we're gonna lead off the podcast with little Nick foles. And specifically how it relates to the Joe flacco trade where Baltimore traded their longtime veteran quarterback. Joe flacco for a fourth round draft pick to the ball to the Denver Broncos. John Elway once again man, he's trying really trying to thread that quarterback needle. And I still don't know what he's doing. Gee. I correct me if I'm wrong. I know Joe flacco is a popular name. I know that he's won a Super Bowl ad that great postseason run. He was a Super Bowl MVP. But as I look at his some of his numbers man, he has not been a good quarterback for like the last half decade and really has been kind of a middling quarterback his whole career. I don't see how. How this makes the Denver Broncos a whole lot better. How much better is he than case keenum, first of all I feel you said Joe flacco there the selfishly accent, which I really liked in the moment. Like a Joe flacco Dako. It's also Baltimore Baltimore doesn't a little bit. Like that is the more. Baltimore. Baltimore baltimore. Yeah. Balmer love that requests. What are the Broncos doing? What is Jonah Wade doing? I mean, it shouldn't be surprising because it's pretty clear he's not very good executive, especially when you look back at his drafting, not the greatest here in Lynch. So. Not awesome. Yeah. Especially when you talk about you know, the investments in quarterback. I mean, you give case keenum his contract last year in new even say that he's your guy in this is our answer early. He did a head all of a sudden they're moving on from him. Like, okay about the the that they should case keenum. But just kind of funny how now they're gonna say Joe flacco is there, and I'm sure as that's not going to last very long. Look, Joe flacco gets hurt to know for all the things you mentioned they are. That's that's another one. You can add to the discussion. So yeah, I don't know what they're doing. There is desperate in. That's that's what it comes down to every off season. We see teams do dumb in desperate things for quarterbacks in. That's what the proper by giving up a fourth round selection for a guy who is dispensed Satistics horrible. I mean, yes, he has supermom VP. The crazy thing about Joe flacco is for as bad as he's been in the regular season note is almost a little bit Nick foles in like when he was on a playoff run. He was frigging red hot like human believable. He was he's the last quarterback go into New England and beat the patriots at their place in the playoffs. I think about that. That's kind of crazy now again that should not be your reasoning for trading for Joe flacco because that's forever. Go now to it's interesting. Right. It's interesting that you can have the Nicole out there and the things that he's done and can Joe flacco out there. And for whatever reason the Broncos decided that no flacco was the better option. Now, you know, it's different contract wise because you know, you trade for Joe flacco now on the deal he's on and now they can cut him any point pretty much beyond this year because they're gonna cancer this year, but there's no guaranteed money left in the dealing of traded for Nick foles, you'd have to pay him first of all more than flacco would make this year, and you're likely committing to him beyond the year, not necessarily because he will be traded from the tagger, whatever. But you know, you would foles is probably gonna be pressure on his end for long-term. Attention. I would think and I'm sure if you're giving pig you would wanna keep him there the on this year. So I don't know if the news really has a ton of impact on the eagles situation. I mean, you can look at it kinda, you know, on both sides, you can say okay now, there's one fewer teen out there with the need for quarterback. So you can from that what you can also look at it from Nicole side in say like it's kind of bad news for him. Because he I would think Denver Mike Garoppolo at even mentioned that like Denver is probably a place that kinda peeled him somewhat. Because they're one of the more. I guess ready to win teams out there because their defense their head coach now Vic Fangio, you know, they're gonna have a good defense in. That's probably what you'd want. You know, if you're going in with Nicolo, there's some different angles to I don't really think it changes a ton. It's takes one more suitor off the board for Nick foles, which in theory may be that increases the competitions ram. I don't know. So yeah, I don't think it changes the time. But it's kind of little. Wrinkle to the off-season than it kinda just takes one more landing spot off the board yet, and it could potentially take a second landing spot off the board as well. Because it's expected that will the Broncos half to release case keenum now trae case keenum because they can't afford paying these two guys having that much money go to middling quarterbacks. And so case keenum is going to be available most likely cut and a lot of rumors here in Washington where I live and unless now is listening to one six seven the fan the other day talking about it. And there's a lot of lot of scuttle bug about the Redskins making a push for like, a one year ten million dollar deal for keenum to just be a placeholder until Alex Smith can come back in two thousand twenty and know saying that sentence out loud makes me giggle because that's no solution to your quarterback problem. But it's at least not giving a multi year deal to Nick foles when you already have Alex Smith signed for a number of years, and they're obviously still holding out. Hope that's Alex Smith will be able to come back into. Thousand twenty. So I don't know that the Redskins were ever really avaiable spot. Even though they have a need at quarterback for Nick foles. But certainly now I think wipes them out. I think they will end up getting case keenum, and so you're looking at a couple other landing spots now here Bill G, and I saw earlier this week that there have been a couple reports that there could be some mutual interest between a team that we had talked a little bit about before and kind of pooh-poohed a little bit. The Jacksonville Jaguars saying to have some interest in Nick foles. And the report indicating also that foles might have some interest in Jacksonville, I can kind of understand it from from both sides. Although, you know, as as been solich mentioned on a previous podcast Jonty Filipo now in Jacksonville is more known for working with younger quarterbacks for bringing in young names. And and building those guys up he really made, you know, help turn Carson Winston into having an MVP type season in two thousand seventeen but. Maybe there isn't a guy in the draft. They like enough to do that. So do you think that this could be a match here? And maybe there's kinda look at it from the Doug Marrone Ingo where he kinda just wants a guy who can help him win right now. Not. I mean 'cause yeah, he's feeling a little bit of pressure after disappointing season that just went through. So and the defense is ready to win right now to exactly yes, I think there could be some of that. There could be some of that on a win now pressured or not really so interested in a quarterback class that really from all indications isn't really that enticing. Anyway. And you look at where the Jaguars are when the giants are still ahead of them in the draft someone else potentially move ahead of them. So they're not necessarily going to get their pick of the quarterbacks either end. Maybe honestly, I mean if you look at what the eagles have done in the past years with investing lottery sources in the quarterback position. Why not do both why not sign the voles endroits someone at some point? And kind of just throw a ton of assets and resources at position Indus hope it works out because again. That's the eagles did. And it's been working out for them. So that's something to think about. Yeah. It kinda does feel I guess like at this point that Jacksonville is the place. I mean, we're hearing everyone talk about it. Now, you're you're seeing that Mike graph low is saying that there's mutual interest. And you're seeing Jay Glaser of the athlete who's really really plugged in saying that he wouldn't be surprised at the worth went after Nick foles. You're hearing Jason lockenfora saying that fullest, quote, unquote, remains the most obvious candidate to become the starter in Jacksonville seeing a lot of buzz there. Obviously, we've talked about the ESPN reports this offseason that the eagles prefer to send the whole subject Seville keep him out of the NFC east. So kind of feels like there's a lot of smoke there in. Maybe it's much ado about nothing. But I don't think so I just I don't think Nichols wants to sign in Washington. Look at the whole situation there, even if you were ignoring the blatantly obvious obvious dysfunction, which I don't know how. You can do you talked about it the out Smith is coming back after this year. We don't know, but at least theory, so I don't know if he wants to go there the giants. I again, we've talked about all believe they're moving on from you lie when I see it. And you talked about him to Washington dismiss speculation that the giants might pick him up because of the atom Shurmur connection. So we'll see about that one. The dolphins a member we were just talking a couple of weeks ago. John you Ana I forgot about them. I forgot about them as a destination in it. It looks like they're moving on from tannehill. So in theory, there's going to be an opening there. But from all the indications by like, Miami beat writers even Graaf low is saying that like he doesn't think the dolphins are really in on the it almost seems like they're like committed to taking this year in two thousand nineteen. It doesn't seem like they're looking for that stopgap fixed there. So not exactly sure Nicole of you know, they're hopping equals either. So that really. Leaves the Jaguars almost it really interesting to me. How what if there's this no big market for Nichols for the second? Like, I know you've downplayed it before John, maybe rightfully so. But I almost like I can't rule out the retirement entirely because what if there's this like no where he really wants to go and doesn't seem like there's a ton of options. I just don't know. And I don't think the being back. So it's kind of a it's an interesting market for him. I guess is what I'm trying to say. Do you think then I mean, if if there really isn't much of a market on the I if he would become a free agent. Do you think it's starting to look a little bit more likely now that they they they might try to franchise them and train them to Jackson because as we've talked about they would almost have to have something lined up, and it would have to be some compensation that's better than the pick that they would get at the end of what we think is going to be the third round next year. If he gets the kind of free agent contract, it looks like he could get Baltimore got a four three. Rounder for Joe flacco. I think most people agree Nick foles is a is a better quarterback and he's had more success recently than than Joe flacco. But could you know, the the pick we've been hearing a third round pick? Does that still sound right to you from the has to be right? I mean aren't going to do if it's fourth dispense lead the third with the compensation pick the has to be there. I wonder if it could be a second, though is my question because how much of a gap is there between flacco and foles at this point. That's a good point. I just don't think deals have the leverage there. I guess I would say they don't have teams. Okay. We're just not gonna trade for him. Then I think that's the point where the are kind of overplaying their hand. I think if the third I think, you know, they're the ones who share put the third that whole report about them winning third out there because they went teams to come calling in asking for that price because it's they think it's reasonable, and it is that's pretty much where the reasonable price for Nick foles is is it's kind of it's the perfect situation for them really in terms. Of what's realistic, man? You love to get a first or second shore. But in terms of where you're leverage is and what you can realistically hope to get firm. We talked about last week here these past weeks here where you get that third. Yeah. It's not all that different from third round compensator Koi pick next year. But I mean, it's a little different. You have at one year earlier. It's not right at the bottom of the the third round. It's closer to that. Because the Jaguars have to third round picks. And one of them is the Rams Fiqh, obviously. Now the Rams went pretty far into the season. Right. It'll be late in the third round. But it's still it would be earlier than the competent, Tori, pick would be. So we'll see I still think last week. I believe I said eighteen percent chance he gets traded. I think you know, the complications surrounding everything makes me think it's just still not the likely option, but still seems like there's some kind of out for it to happen. Well, again, we'll see it how shakes out here over the next few weeks. But there'll be no shortage of speculation on our part. It's as more rumors come down the rumor mill sometimes I feel like I'm back in the MLB hot stove when we're talking about Nick full full here. Jake is men. The rumors are coming fast and furious with with foale's, he's definitely at this point. Now, the number one quarterback target on the market. But again like you said how many teams are interested in signing him to a long term deal. Given the fact he is about thirty years old. And who knows how much more time he has left in front of them. All right, one other piece of news that came out regarding a name that has been connected to the eagles in the draft is Mississippi State defensive tackle Jeffrey Simmons who if you listen to one of the most recent kissed and Solex shows they both mocked him to the eagles at number twenty five Simmons's suffered a torn yell and will now likely miss the entire two thousand nineteen season g and we know that the eagles a couple years ago drafted Sidney Jones when a similar thing happened to him when he tore his achilles and a pre-draft workout, and he missed all of the two thousand. Seventeen season. They took him in the second round as opposed to taking a for. He probably was going to go in the first round somewhere and eagles took a chance decided to redshirt him for a year while he got healthy. And then came back this year and miss sometime this year to Bill Jianhua, it was not terribly effective when he was when he was in there for much of two thousand eighteen two thousand eighteen so still way too early to close the book on Sidney Jones. I'm not saying that at all. But we see that the eagles have done this in the past. And I guess the question is if they can get Jeffrey Simmons in the second round because of the injury. Do you think that they would do something similar to what they did two years ago? Definitely fair to ask. Right. You know, you do this Sidney Jones thing where you make this long term commitment. So there's some thought that they could. And Jeffrey Simmons is certainly I think the player that you would essentially like to take that risk on given his talent. Here's a case against it. Leading up to the two thousand seventeen NFL draft before the eagles even drafted Sidney Jones. There was kind of. Talk around be Jan, and Dave mangoes did a piece on it about how historically the medical redshirt draft pick. We you know, you take injured guy and you sit him for a year. And he comes back has not panned out. Very well, it's worked out better deal Smith. But at the time when the specials written in two thousand seventeen like that took some time for him a yo back to life. Oh, at Cray Alamo who is from Oregon on two thousand fifteen I remember, there's buzz back then that he could be first round guy, or at least at least a first day one day two guy and he ended up going in the seventh round. And he never really turned into anything you go back even further look at like guys that you probably don't even recognize their name. Brandon Thomas Keith Reeser, Trey Millard, like these are some guys who were highly thought of and again pretty much nothing. You'll back even further tank kerosene on the forty Niners and Marcus Lattimore, whoever in left at running back allow these guys were highly thought of you know, coming into the Jaffa. Like teams Stansell them. And they probably got a lot of credit on draft day. Like, oh, man. Yeah. In the forty ninth specifically because that's the time. They had like a loaded roster than they were taking these guys who were hurt later on the draft, really talented. Never all man, they're going to be stacked forever and those guys ended up being nothing. So when you look at the history of that pick, it doesn't always work out. Like, you think it is like they just spend a year hurt and they come back fine. And the obviously seeing that Sidney Jones I mean, Sidney Jones has only played thinking something like twenty eight percent of possible games where the you'll so far. So not great. That's definitely red flag there. It's really a shame. The Simmons got hurt. I mean, obviously for him because that's changed a lot for him. You know, he could have been a first round pick. You know? He's just he's not going to be probably so devastating for him. Just bad for the two because you would have been a great option if he made it there. I don't even think he would have made it their twenty five to be honest with you. But, you know, having him there in the draft still would have pushed someone else down the twenty five that the potentially could've taken intense. Another defensive tackle, which is a big need. And that's kind of brings me back to Jaffna him kinda stashing him the best move. I mean, I don't hate it. Depending where you're at. Maybe it's the third round. I don't know what the right value is there for him. But he goes need help defensive tackle immediately. You know, like that's something. They have to focus on to like, they don't. They don't electorate dislike stashing guy like that. They still have to make moves that help that position some right away. And it doesn't have to be necessarily drafting a guy in the first round in Sali soli have to rely on a rookie. They can find a way to bring back to me during again, they could find a way to maybe find a stopgap guy in free agency. But they won't add someone who can help out now. And I just think, you know, you're you're adding Simmons you still need win now of moves at that position still. So that's kind of the dilemma they have their. Yeah. I think for me it's more that Beal Jay, they do need help right away. They I don't like the idea of stashing agai at this point because they have pulse to fill this. Is not a team that can afford to just throw away second round pick on somebody who's not gonna play next year. They have to get guys early in the draft. This these day one and early day two picks. They've gotta get guys who can step up and step in and play right away. And I don't want a guy even though that you have to second round picks this year. I don't wanna waste one of them. I want I want to get three starters out of the first two rounds of this of this draft. And maybe that's asking too much. But you know, your first and second round picks guys you should expect to work their way into the starting lineup depending on the position pretty quickly. And so I know that there's other potential defensive lineman that they could take their defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence from Clemson has been mocked to the eagles quite a bit in that spot. There's that edge rusher. Montas sweat from Mississippi State that I know I've heard Kisten's Olek or not too high on, but those guys know the draft a little bit better than I two when I say a little bit. I mean by like, you know, miles and miles, but. So I mean, they'll break it all down here in an upcoming kissed and soul act. But from from where I said, I certainly wouldn't Richard anybody at this point because this team needs an infusion of young players, especially along that defensive line. You don't know what's going to happen with Brandon Graham, you don't know what's going to happen. We've pretty sure Chris long is coming back. I mean, I think we're pretty sure Michael Bennett. It's coming back. We're gonna get into some of this stuff here in a couple of minutes. But you know, Dirk Barnett is really one of your and Josh sweat are. You're too young guys on that defensive line. It will be great to add some more youth to that unit. Bill J and even looking at the projections. No solich kinda even mentioned he was talking about the defensive and outlook. And he kind of mentioned Josh wet as one of your top for defensive end. I mean, honestly, I don't think he that too. Yeah. Yeah. You can't really pen that in right now, Ben. Penn. Just you can't you can't though. I mean like that guy. Josh what hasn't proven really that has been able to stay healthy the coaching staff really didn't even trust them last year was a rookie. So I get it. But I'm saying like you can't count on him. As sure thing you hope that he can develop more there's reasonable hope for that. But it's just you know, they they need some proven guys at that position. I think they look it's a position that they're not gonna spend lightly on whether that is traffic capital or cap space, or whatever we know defensive end is going to be in pastures going to be a premium position for this team. So again, it stinks that you Simmons is going to be out in that kind of gives you one less option. They are for the defensive line. Thankfully, the classes so good that you still probably gonna get someone good at some point hopefully figure that out. But definitely a bummer. I will be come back. Bill G. We're going to get into this. Golden Tate stuff that popped up earlier this week. And we'll take a look at. 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Let's go the flyers the hockey team of flyers. And we're back with more BGN radio g golden Tate this week. You know, he he tweeted something that it. I I didn't really understand exactly what it is. He was trying to say. But as I started. To gauge the reaction of it online. It seems to me that a tweet that he sent out indicated that the eagles were not speaking to him about about a contract at this point right now, you're not allowed to talk to free agents, but you are allowed to negotiate with players on the current team. And golden Tate seem to indicate Brandon that it's not happening at the moment that the eagles are not engaging with him in conversation. And I guess that's really not a big surprise. But what was your read on golden Tate this weekend his future with the eagles here? Kind of a weird the season by him. I guess right to be like, oh, man. Is he burning a bridge? That's what I'm thinking. Did you forget about me, basically, something like that? It's yes shouldn't be surprising. I mean, I've said all along that. I've just felt like there hasn't been a strong chance that they're going to bring him back at thirty years old. He's arguably the top wide receiver ragent receiver on the market raising. Yeah. So like in I was looking at his contract projection from spot Rak did a post on this ingred nation on Thursday. And his projected contract is three years at just over thirty million an average annual valuation say of ten point two million per year there twenty second ranked twenty second of all wide receivers de really see the eagles paying him that much money after him being here for half a year and things not really going all that great in him turning thirty one this season. Like, just I don't see. I don't really see how that's going to make sense there. I don't think they're of a sunk cost mindset in feel like they have to pay him because they the third round pick from. That's I think they're gonna -sarily like double down on that mistake. Although I have said that it's weird. How Roseman kind of really justified that trade when the season ended. He really stuck stuck up for it. In a kind of very very, bold way. I would say more than you would expect. So I would say maybe I don't know. Five percent handsy. We signed by. I don't think it's very high. I think the eagles are going to keep Nelson atler instead. And I guess that's kind of what it comes down to here when you're looking at the two of them and getting into him a little bit here. I don't think it's as simple as you just keep noth- night lower at his nine point four million cap number that he's currently set to make which is not guaranteed at all as of right now because it's a fifth year option, and there's no guarantee of injury, and he's not hurt. So it's not guaranteed, but it will guarantee when the new season the new league year begins here in March. So they're going to have to do some. With him. I kinda maybe the the of this don't want it tell everyone. So I'm sure he goes don't love golden Tate. Tween this does they might wanna make it seem like they are still trying to go and take that gives them more leverage in talking to Nelson Eglin being like, hey, we're still talk on the golden too. So you know, you'd better take our deal. And I just think I did that postie mentioned John about like to cap casualties. I just I don't see how the bring back Nelson galore on that number. I think he's gonna be back with the team are the thing that's very likely. So I'm not saying there's moving on from him entirely. But I just don't see how you keep them at that number again. He he wasn't terrible last year. Like his numbers were actually a little bit similar to what they were in two thousand seventeen but the touchdowns were down the efficiency was down. So it was like he was quite as impactful and just the eye test tells you that to you know, he wasn't two thousand seventeen Nelson. I Lord last year. He just wasn't in that kind of scares me a little bit just because he had those two. Bad really, I years. So like, what are you really paying Nelson uglier for if you're signing him to an extension? Are you paying him for that one good year? He he really good here. He had in two thousand seventeen so that kind of scares me a little bit. So I feel like you know, if you can't be overpaid. Keep Nelson idler idea thing that you shouldn't be like, you know, we we have to keep them. And we had the overpay him. You're extending those Nadler, it should be a deal. That's pretty fair for both sides. You look at it. And you're like, oh, okay. That's actually pretty fair. Shouldn't be like. Oh, man. We we paid too much. If if that happens, I feel that's mistake. So kind of a something that you'll have to figure out with their whole slot receiver situation. Do you think there's a possibility they could get rid of agony R N Tate and go after somebody like John Brown in agencies somebody with some speed who you could put in the slot and stretch the field. I mean, that's kinda depending on Mike Wallace to come back. And actually, you know, make a catch next year for the teen. You know, I think you know, if they don't wanna give galore that money, and we'll talk about the cap hidden and galore in more detail coming up in just a second. But I wonder if maybe you don't let both guys go and bring in somebody from the outside like John Brown or somebody like Antonio Brown. Beal g you've got thoughts on AB. Yeah. We we have a very long segment about Antonio Brown league. I saw like radio talking about now. That's how you know. It's a slow time when we're talking about. Yeah. Don't even it's not even feasible in his it's not even on the board. When the odds like Antonio Brown next team odds, the aren't even on the board. It's not happening guys that them pretty they're not they're not spending major caps face on the guy who clearly you know there. There's like some locker room in some. And there's some off the field issues with him that have popped up this season to like, they're just I don't see that. And as far as, you know, getting rid of both Agla and Tate. I just don't see that either. I think it's just didn't that's tough. And I think there there is some value to be had with Laura an extension. I feel like you can come to the table being like, look, you know, you have that good year two thousand seventeen but you've also had some down here. So, you know, this has to be a deal that works out for both sides. I think. I don't think they now I do think John Brown make sense for them. And that someone I did mention what I talked about. My what the eagle should do it wide receiver post on bleeding green nation. I think that's a guy who was really impressive especially the beginning last year and offers that vertical threat that they really need to find some point. I don't know if the money works for them is he's probably not going to be cheap. But I don't know. Exactly. Don't know. What is is markets going to be like there? But yes, so I think I think it is going to be one of Adler Tate. And I don't think it's going to take a tooth things going to be Nelson and a sets how it's gonna go. Well, let's take a look at some of the casualties that you wrote about for BGN. And you know, we'll start off with Alar since we were since we were just talking about him if he's cut or traded the team would save nine point three eight seven million dollars with zero debt money there. So again, that's not a little bit of money. And we we've talked about Alar. So we'll jump over to. A couple of the guys Nick foles. Obviously the option was voided. That's eighteen point eight million dollars saved two point eight million in dead money. Let's talk a little bit Tim Jernigan. Cut cutter traded the team's gonna make eleven million dollars. But as we just mentioned a moment ago Beal, gee, this team needs depth along the defensive line. It can't be Fletcher Cox, and then a bunch of other guys and to Jernigan missed most of last year, but he did come back and he did play and he had moments where he was affected, but he was not the same player that he was in his first half season with the eagles in two thousand seventeen. And I think it's fair to wonder if that guy is gone forever. And so if you could save eleven million dollars from Tim Jernigan, my thinking is that if they had depth there, they'd probably do that. But I don't know that they have the depth to be able to let him go right now. What say you one more thing? I wanted to is that if you do him you're not getting compensated pick for him if he signs elsewhere in free agency. So that kind of. Another factor. Consider there now is her goes for any of these guys that you cut you never know you don't get complex guys that you cut in they sign elsewhere on the side. That's also what makes signing guys who get cut by other teams appealing because they don't count towards your compensate pick formula either. So some guy gets cut and then you sign 'em. You don't worry about it county against you. So that's the appeal there. Now Jernigan there's no way he is back on his current deal. Because as of last year, the report was that it was actually reworked to where there's no more guaranteed money in the contract. And I just don't think you know, you're paying TIMMY Jernigan eleven million dollar salary into nineteen where he only played Forty-five snaps last season. I just I just don't see that happening. It always seemed like from the jump wants that deal was negotiated last year. And there was no guaranteed money that it was always gonna end with you know, the two sides splitting ways at least that deal being split up this off season. And to me, I feel like eagles have some leverage here because what's turning in gonna do if they cut him like he's going to go into free agency and test the market what markets he gonna have again humi plan forty five snaps last off last season. He's coming off a very significant back injury think he even mid it could have been like a career ending injury. So I just don't see a team in freezing jumping to pay him a ton of money, especially when you have this draft class that is going to have a lot of talent at -fensive tackle. And even the free agent market. There's a lot of defensive line talent as well. So I just don't really think it's the best move for him to kinda just be like, okay. You know, I'm gonna go into free agency and see what I can get that would be a bad decision by him. So I think the move that makes sense for both sides is they kinda agree on some kind of really major pay cut here, and the almost until you approve it deal because that way the eagles get one at least one more year Jernigan at potentially discount to and that would be nice on their side. And for Jernigan. He gets the chance to have a really good season in two thousand nineteen then hit the market next year and potentially earned that beer, payday. So I think that's kind of what makes sense for both sides. I don't think it makes sense journey into into freidan C this year. So I think I hope that both sides can kinda agree to some kind of fair one year deal here. The next guy wanna talk about is really interesting be Eljay Jason Peters who obviously is an icon with this franchise. He's really tight with Jeffrey Loria. He is a mentor to all the guys on that offensive line. When Jason Peters is playing well that offensive line really hums, and he's going to be a first ballot hall of Famer most likely when he retires, but the eagles would save ten and a half million dollars. If they cut him which would count for two point seven million dollars of dead money. And he started breaking down last year. He rarely finished a game a bit rarely made made it through a whole game. But. Yet he did suit up for each and every game. And when he was out there. He was affective. But not the Jason Peters that we used to know. I mean, we're we're clearly dealing with a guy a legend who is on his last legs. Here is this another situation where you might be able to get him to restructure his contract and get him down to a smaller number. I guess this is how I look at it. John few question. Do you want? How pool of tie or a rookie being guy? Protecting Carson Wentz blindside. That's the answer is no. That's really, that's I think that's what you're looking at. If you don't bring Jason Peters back. I know like in in an ideal world, you would like to move on from him and get younger. Yes. In an ideal world, you would like to be able to count on a first round rookie or a rookie off into tackle to step in there and have that kind of impact. Yes. That would be ideal. But I just don't think you can necessarily count on that. And I know this offense of tackle class is supposed to be pretty good. So maybe there's some hope that can happen. But I just don't know. I just think that's a lot to ask for to just, you know, put a rookie in there and ask him to suddenly be Carson Wentz his blindside protector. I don't love that. Even if it's a really talented player. I'm not crazy about that. And I know for all the issues that Jason Peters has. And there are some and Benjamin Sula pointed that out in his excellent post about Jason Peters and review on his two thousand eighteen season on bleeding, greenish dot com. And I get that. I'm not saying. Peter's is perfect. But I still trust him more than the alternatives. And that's what it comes down to to me. And there's no way he gets. I cannot see that. The if anything you'll have to somehow talk him, Jeffrey, Larry his best friend would have to talk him into retiring. Somehow. That's the only way I think decent Peter's isn't back in two thousand nineteen. But I don't think he's in Peter's wants to retire. He said he's year to year, and he says that every year, but just think about the money we're talking about here that ten point five million salary. I don't think Thiessen Peter's wants to pass up on that. I think he wants to make that money, and he should you know, who wouldn't want to make ten point five million dollars and two thousand. So I think it'll be. We'll know an ensure I and I think the eagles will invest an early round pick on an offensive tackle, it might even be their first round pick. If if if there. Yeah, it depends how the board falls for them, obviously. Because the draft is strong at defensive tackle long defensive line. But offense of tackle was a need. And if you have a guy who can kind of you can slot in behind Peters and vita for one year, and he can get the reps and he can learn behind a legend for a season. And then maybe you can move him into the starting lineup in two thousand twenty. I think that's ideal. Frankly, you need Jason Peters on hand to to to be that guy because I invite ties okay to to make a spot start. But you don't want time making three four five starts in a row. He had a great run last year. Let alone sixteen and listen Vikings credit for having a good postseason run in two thousand seventeen. He did a good job filling in for Jason Peters that season. But we've seen what by is. He's a back. Yup. He's a fill in guy. You can you can deal with for a few games here and there, but I agree with you. I think they got to see if they can figure out a way to get Jason Peters to get that number down because they have to keep him next year. And if they can't then they gotta pay him ten and a half million. Let's look at Chris long. Cut were traded or retired would save him saved. The team five point three million dollars cap space only three hundred grand in dead money. I know long as a team leader, obviously, Walter Payton man of the year winner. He had a quiet first half field. But he really seemed to come on in the second half and played pretty well. He's one of their more effective defensive lineman late in the season. And in the postseason. I would imagine he he says he still wants to play. He'll probably be back. Right. I would hope. So I think the biggest thing with him is he wants to be sure he has the right amount of playing time in Philly. He's pretty much said on some of his offseason appearances here. He's on part of my take on WBZ. He said that like almost wants to see what the do at defensive end on his end because he doesn't want to come back into a locker room guy. I think that's pretty much what he said he wants to play. And honestly that's pretty fair of him to say because he was still ineffective player last season. He ranked thirty fifth out of one hundred nine edge rushers in PF S pressure rate. So Satistics studying done indistinct about some of the impact plays may less season. Like you still able to hear that huge strip sack in week six. To help the Texans. I still think he is a viable rotation peace, and you're gonna need that. Especially like, we don't know. Exactly. What's going to happen at defensive end? Like, if you're losing Ranan Graham like you don't also want to be losing Chris long. I think that's like those are two very big veteran losses right there. So I would hope that you'll keep him around. Silly is the sounds part of it is because I just think it's cool that he won Walter Payton man of the year. And I I wanna see that little icon in on his jersey know, how the like NFL does that now like drew Brees has on his the little Walter Payton man of the year award the icons on the jersey. Now, it's kinda I dunno. I wanna see that. I wanna see Chris long back is obviously such a fun loving guy to have an electoral a good presence. A good, dude. Honestly, no, obviously winning Walter Payton man of the year and all the stuff he does. So really hope he's back the for two thousand nineteen and I know he just turned. He actually turns thirty four in March. So he's getting up there. But. But to me seems like he still has plenty of gas in the tank, and I hope he can be back. Couple other guys to mention here. Real quick Stephen was new ski cut or traded three million dollars saved to the cap seventy a little over seven hundred thousand dollars in dead money if he is cut or traded. I know I know Jason Kelsey is a little bit. Do we talk about Jason Kelsey? We didn't talk about who skipped right over him. Let's. Yeah. He's right. So I mean, he's six and a half million saved if he's cut or traded a retired. But again, they they could rework that rework that Dilkes it doesn't sound like he's retiring. Right. I don't know. I think usually think some of that comes from dishing, Kelsey, no more guaranteed money and his contract for this year and next year. So I almost feel like it's at a point where he can leverage his retirement into giving like e can be like, hey, you know, I'm thinking about retiring in the team will have to be like, okay now, here's some more guaranteed money. That's kind of what the last year Semper. Chris long was kind of considering retirement and eagles had to readjust his deal to kind of convince him not to add indus- kinda wear the might be at with that one. Okay. Yeah. I'm they got if Kelsey they gotta figure out a way and Kelsey still one of the most effective centres football. So we really Opie can come back. But obviously with his new ski he would probably be Kelsey replacement. If Kelsey decided to retire and. You know, I think wiz is a pretty valuable guy because he can do a few different things on the offensive line. I like with and three million dollars isn't all that much. He probably just sticks at that number, right? One thing. I forgot to mention is that you know, brain Brooks to we don't know his status if Brandon Brooks has to miss early in two thousand nineteen season ways, it's probably starting at right guard in his place for a little bit until rooks, potentially return. I think the the wiz thing isn't likely to me. I just mentioned it because it's a significant amount of money. You can save three million. It's not it's not too much to keep him. Like, it's not like a number. You have to move off of. But if you can like it would be in a perfect world. It would be nice. If you could because the clearly just see him as a backup. I think they consider is if wiz kinda tries to force his way out because we saw it last year. He said he didn't feel like he got benched for performance reasons. And we all knew no he's kind of just like straightforward highlight that and he's honest, I believe this is a contract year for him. So I don't think he wants to be sitting the bench in a contract year. We kinda when he was new ski for sign with the team. Back in. What was it two thousand sixteen? He was like very candid about how like yeah. I part of the reason why I'm happy. I signed here is when you deal I can test regency next year. He he signed the deal, and he was already talking about looking forward to tensely getting paid in rice offseason. So I think he's kind of guy and looking at that mindset. I wouldn't be surprised if he kinda tries to force his way out now at doesn't mean that you you'll have to down to that. And you'll soon kind of play hardball and be like, no tough. Like, we're not going to trade you and you have to play here. So I'm just saying that to be kind of a little bit of situation to watch last guy to talk about. And there's no way he's not going to be on the team next year. Michael Bennett who really was their best defensive lineman last year fees cut or traded or if he retires. He would save seven point two million off the cap with no dead money is to be a really easy decision. If he sucked last year, but I guess he he was really quite good. And what an amazing trade Roseman made during the the previous offseason. To to get him. And you know, when you make a deal like that. I don't think Roseman is going to be so anxious to then get rid of him. So I my guess is if Ben it stays they may try to re try to rework his deal as well. But now we're talking about reworking a lot of different deals. How many deals can you rework in one off-season infinite? And how he Roseman you find a way to do that. I mean, that's what he's done in the past couple of seasons for as many moves as they've made additions subtractions, whatever they've restructured loud deals they've gotten guys to take pay cuts. They've gotten guys to restructure the contracts as we've seen with Rodney McLeod. They've lot of work to do in that department. That's part of how how Roseman makes it all work. He has to go through these contracts and find ways to move money around. I will we come back. We're gonna look at another Turkey day with eagles football is a good thing or a bad thing or not a real not anything at all. And we'll give you our final thoughts coming up here on BGN radio. Right after this. Hi, this is Jim backs. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be ballers podcasts at work for all of your Sixers needs game breakdowns with a headband and more subscribed liberty Bowers podcast feed, an itunes, Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball, mostly. And we're back with BG and radio and just to finish up here. Beal g reports this week or that the eagles will likely or could be playing on thanksgiving. Once again this year, they could be looking at a thinks giving evening game right now. The too early holiday games were seeing could include the bears versus the lions. And then a dolphins Cowboys game. Dolphins cowboys. That's just sounds awful bears. One that was a free win on this. I mean exactly, but Michael rand of the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that it looks as though the eagles could be heading to Minneapolis to take on the Vikings are old friends on as the late game on thanksgiving night. So the eagles on thanksgiving. Beal, gee, what are your thoughts on on the eagles playing on Thanksgiving Day or thanksgiving night? I'm not so sure I'm wild about it. Well, I think about the last time they played on this giving and not go so well for them as devastated bar. Demolished by I guess that was the Calvin Johnson lions, just like torture. Eric grow over and over. It was it was very bad high member after that game. And just being so depressed that evening because I was kind of pretty much the end of the chip Kelly era, you kinda ended right there. They just getting killed by the boss the couple days before that on Thursday that thanksgiving, and at that point it was pretty clear like this wasn't getting turned around like this was kind of the end there. And you pressing you were so you were so depressed, you only had three thanksgiving dinners that well, you know, you see that. I went out to wa that night late that night. And I it was a lot of emotional eating going on just ordered like the had one of everything from Walla the entire store. And yes, so that was that's what I think of when I changed eagles buying on thanksgiving. Although the year before they did beat the Cowboys. And that was a lot of fun. I did I it very much enjoyed that one. So I don't know it's still too early. Obviously to say if this is actually gonna happen. There was that speculation last year that us we're gonna have the home opener. Against the Vikings in that did not turn out to be true. So it just kinda, you know, it's not finalized right now in in the NFL schedule doesn't come out until mid-april officially so still have probably two months to find out. This is to or not. But assuming it is kinda like it not crazy about working on the skiving, although known hears about that. So that's not a real factor. Any on other than me? But I think it can be fun. I mean, we all know Kirk cousins just loved the show a big in primetime games. So you're gonna get a great effort at him in that one. I just think it would be a great way though, seriously for the eagles to add to that list of moments of them. Just embarrassing the Vikings, which they pretty much been doing since the same Braford trait. You know, you look down the list that that trade look at obviously beating them in Tampa into game and then winning the Super Bowl in their own stadium. And by the way, that's. What this game would be. It'd be eagles first game back at US Bank stadium since they won the Super Bowl that would be kinda fun to. Yeah. I don't know. I think it'd be a fun match up. I definitely feel like you know, we should get that game. Probably in a primetime game, especially because you know, the have the big win in two thousand and seventeen than the Vikings come back and win almost like it looks so meaningless. Now did the Vikings really get their revenge in that game after racket how? Thing. Yeah. Joked seventeen so I would like to see that matchup. Yeah. I would too. And I the more I think about it. I always liked the prime time games because it generally happen after my kids have gone to bed, and I can actually sit down and watch a game uninterrupted, which is not something. I get to do on Sunday afternoons most of the time, I'm kind of peaking at the game in between running around and playing up after them. And is that are watching the game afterwards on on the NFL game pass. And when I can finally sit down to myself, and you know, have an hour and a half to to watch the game on the replay. But yeah, I'm all I'm all in favor of the nationally televised nighttime games. Because usually that's the only time I can sit on my couch with a beer or two and just actually watch a football game unencumbered. So I'm all for it. Absolutely. And most of the family will be out of the house by that point. Anyway, dinner will be done if it's the late game. So that's just it's win win. All the round for me. Beal g. Of course, it'll be we'll have to see what the schedule looks like when it comes out in April. Because you don't know what you know the opponent is the week beforehand. It'll be on a short week will they have a tougher opponent the week after that they'll have more time to prepare for. So it could be good or bad depending on who they're playing before. Or after that game. Also, that's some some other stuff to take into account. All right as we wrap up episode number thirty seven year g any final thoughts from you tonight, not a ton. Honestly again, so time of year. 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The Baltimore Ravens have an agreement in principle to trade for quarterback. Joe flacco to the Denver Broncos this according to our Adam Schefter, the trait cannot be officially processed until the new league year begins on Wednesday March thirteenth. We're glad you're with us three days. Three major news stories in the NFL Wendy next Darlington Daimiel what he dinner Lobski. We will get right to Adam Schefter who broke the news of the Broncos and ravens agreeing to terms in a deal that will send Joe flacco to Denver. He joins us. Now from Minneapolis where he's wearing another hat moonlighting in the NBA tonight with the SPN's coverage of the rockets and timber wolves. But Adam what are the details of this? Joe flacco deal. When I think Joe flacco was a quarterback that appeal to the Denver Broncos as they studied quarterbacks this off season keep in mind that the Broncos head coach Vic Fangio work with Joe flacco during his first two years in Baltimore. When Fangio was the ravens linebackers coach, Gary kubiak and executive the Broncos for an office until he left to take a job with the Minnesota. Vikings is a big proponent of Joe flacco and Denver went down to the senior bowl looked at the young quarterbacks there, and ultimately came back to assess film of the veteran quarterbacks and decided that at that point time they were better off going after a quarterback like Joe flacco. So Monday trade talks commenced really with the Baltimore Ravens. They spent the last three days trying to hammer out the agreement in principle that culminated this morning and essentially Denver green to give up. What we think is going to be a mid round pick to the Baltimore Ravens? Keep in mind that the Denver Broncos have two fourth round draft picks there. Own. And then when they got back from Houston for Damaris Thomas, but either way when the new league year begins next month. Joe flacco will be shipped to the Denver Broncos and he will become the Broncos new starting quarterback. Adam do you get a sense of what made John Elway believe that Joe flacco is an upgrade if you will from case keenum, it would seem neither are the long term future for the Broncos. Joe flacco had one of his greatest winds as an NFL player in Denver in January two thousand thirteen and a game known as the mile high miracle where he led the ravens to an overtime victory in a divisional playoff round. And I think when players beat teams certain executives coaches players remember that game that was a lasting memory that Joe flacco left with the Denver Broncos. Plus, I think they're getting flacco in now, and they're not tied to a long-term. He's thirty four years old, but he's their quarterback for now. And he buys them time to go find a quarterback in the future. Whether that's in the mid rounds. This year war in the high profile quarterback class of twenty twenty. Where a lot of good quarterbacks are supposed to be coming out in the NFL draft that you're not this year but next year, and so Denver doesn't have to rush to take one with the tenth overall selection. This you Joe flacco gives them some time gives them some flexibility gives them some options. Case keenum is a guy right now who the Broncos could wind up trading could wind up restructuring his contract could wind up keeping him as a back of. They don't know what they're going to do yet with case keenum his future right now is unsettled and murky, but the Broncos do not will be getting flacco next month. And they feel like right now that'll be an upgrade. Thank you, Adam. And again, Joe flacco the first quarterback domino to fall. If you will. And now you'll be back with us to talk about what this means. Elsewhere Elway struck gold in two thousand twelve when he snagged Peyton Manning via free agency. But since then there hasn't been a lot of success at the quarterback position since he became the Broncos DM in two thousand eleven. The six other started quarterbacks not named Peyton Manning have a combined thirty three and thirty eight record and a QBR that's thirty points lower than Manning's Mark during that span. Now, if you couldn't figure out Peyton Manning was a good quarterback by then I you know, you got bigger problems. But clearly that was not the case he landed in Denver syncing. There's some question marks. Let's start with this hell much if any is Joe flacco and upgrade in your opinion. We'll go down the line. Then is case keenum? I don't understand it. First of all in an upgrade standpoint. You're paying them more money. I mean, even if they renegotiated the contract Joe flacco was due to earn eighteen and a half million dollars this coming season. Case keenum seven million dollars this coming season. I don't see the upgrade in that regard. And everything that we could talk about when it comes to Joe flacco being upgrade we have to reference six years ago. It's been that long since he could be really considered an upgrade. Instead, it feels like we're once again talking about a stopgap quarterback for the Denver Broncos, Wendy, we talked about Joe flacco, this is sinus contract two thousand thirteen Lassen turnover. Tush on eternal ratio interception ratio lasting yards per attempt. There's no difference between him and in. Which is Ken, Casey. What's? This many quarterbacks that are going gone through losing tried. But there's really no difference. Let's be fair. Joe? Flacco is a Super Bowl winning quarterback bet on himself that season. He got the big deal. I know I'm just saying there was a time when he was a very very good starting quarterback is one of the two fell. I hear you. Now time has passed not only that case keenum has had some pretty good ball games at one point or another older, the sample size, isn't lart. So no disrespect Joe flacco. But it does seem like one in the same. And you still don't have a long term answer. It just seems lateral. If you're being honest, I've heard shifty say this before like the Broncos are in win now mode. Well, if you're win now mode. You gotta go chase down the Kansas City Chiefs. This move does not get you closer to the chiefs. If anything it's lateral in some people, we've set up here for the past couple of minutes would say it's a backwards move from case keenum going back to twenty two. When the Super Bowl run. Joe flacco got one season of twenty plus touchdowns since that Super Bowl run one season of twenty plus touchdowns. Now, I I like to try and be positive. I like to try and paint something. Yeah. So to give Broncos fans some form of hope I will say this Joe flacco looked his best in his career the his most comfortable when he played under Gary kubiak in Baltimore when he was the guy calling his place their new offense coordinator scan Carello comes from San Francisco who he learned under Cal Shanahan Cal Shanahan learned offense. Football play calling from his father, and Gary kubiak. So if there is a positive. Some way some spin flacco should feel comfortable scheme wise, and they do have pieces medicine, this is by far this isn't the worst decision ever made. I mean, it's just it's just a push and therein lies just descent, but I think the bigger picture me. Forget Joe flacco to me, this is about John Elway. I just think that we've been John Milton this whole Peyton Manning thing for quite a while. The Denver Broncos have had a new quarterbacks almost along the lines of the Cleveland Browns. Right. I mean from Paxton Lynch to Brock Osweiler the trivia Trevor simian, I mean, the list goes on and on Denver. And it's just like you want you you wanted to you wanna most famous quarterbacks you you're at the most famous quarterback in Denver. But you can't saw. Yeah. This you that if you were in the position where let's go get a or have a veteran, and we're going to draft somebody or that we're going to draft a young kid early cheer point. There's no proof in Elway's history that he can draft develop a quarterback. And also if you're talking about which veteran you actually want in that room with a young guy, I would say case keenum over Joe flacco, Joe flacco just went through last year with Lamar Jackson did not seem to glowingly. Enjoy. Oh, here's this young guy. And I'm supposed to mentor him case. Keenum would be that perfect. Josh mccown type guy that loves being in that role helping young kid not with Fleming. Ask about case Cam for just Jeff because nobody there's a there's everybody has an expiration date. Right. Nobody wants to see a young kid drafted. But you get it. I'm sure as veteran quarterback you understand this. I think would be more difficult to understand if your case keenum because you're thinking really I mean, I'm here, and we did that this isn't a young guy. This isn't a hotshot in the draft. Well, this is tough to swallow. I would think John John Elway. Was very clear no uncertain terms to Peter King in his column re very recently talked about how case keenum is just a short term option. I mean, he said that while keenum was on roster before this trade was even made your kingdom. You're like what just signed me a year ago for two year? Neil. And you're ready calling me like a short-term option. Can we at least just like remember that? I'm here. But but but and especially with Joe flacco, here's the thing. If it's going to work, maybe Joe flacco feels invigorated by a new scene, but he was this interested in Baltimore. I've talked to people in Baltimore who said that he was over it. He wasn't into it. He was not going the extra mile. He wasn't meeting with receivers after practice. He wasn't doing anything that would suggest that this is a guy who still wants the Super Bowl Ronin him. And that's why they should if they're going to draft a young kid. That's why I make the case he should've kept case keenum because he's going to be the guy that's going to be more willing to spend extra time with the young kid in part wisdom. This is how to be a pro. This is how you watch taping. Joe flacco was like that last year with Lamar Jackson. He's probably going to be a very similar version of that. If they do draft, the young kids sounds like really into this. Well, obviously, John Elway disagrees or he wouldn't have made the move. But it will be interesting to hear the thought process and trying to understand what's going on case king. By the way, do eighteen million next season. They will carry about ten million dollars against the cap. Should they decide to part ways? Adam Schefter also reporting on Tuesday that it's official. Antonio Brown has asked out of Pittsburgh. He's requested a trade from the Steelers. We'll take a look now at how Brown's relationship with the team literally unraveled in two thousand eighteen back in week two against Kansas City. He was seen visibly upset on the sideline during the game. He tweeted trade me, let's find out in response to a former Steeler staffer saying he should think Big Ben for his production and following a week twelve loss. In Denver source said that Brown was not pleased with Roth Asperger's public critiques of his route running and then the final straw, perhaps week seventeen he had a blow up again reportedly during a Wednesday walk through he then missed team meetings that week Mike Tomlin made the decision to bench him for the regular season finale at at what point the Steelers were still fighting for a spot in the postseason. We'll say Hello to our Steelers reporter Jeremy Fowler. And Jeremy let's start with this portrayed for Brown is or were to be imminent. What would the Steelers want compared to what's realistic in the marketplace? Wendy. It's great to be with you. And the Steelers have known for weeks, and then Tony Brown one at a trade, and they believe they can get a high draft pick to make that happen as one NFL general manager told me the Steelers will wanna first round pick in any deal. They do. But the bigger question is can they get I've called a few league execs. And they say the same thing they believe Brown is worth a day to pick somewhere in the second or third round. When you consider all the factors. He's still on a team for contract. And he's still a great player. But he also turns thirty one in July. He has the off field issues mounting. And then there's a wild card if Brown once a new deal as a stipulation for trade, which some have speculated that's the case that would only complicate matters for that new team the league year gets underway in March. We've got the combine and then the draft Jeremy, so what's the timetable here for a potential trade and the financial implications? Of course, the team could agree to a deal in principle right now, and then enacted when that new league year starts, but that March thirteenth March seventeenth date range is the sweet spot right now because the seventeenth Brown's got that two point five million dollar roster bonus due if the Steelers simply don't wanna pay that wanted to that to the new team neck and create some urgency to get a deal done by them, but they don't have to act swiftly. If they don't want to are in control Brown demanding a trade doesn't really change much for them. So they want to wait this out. They owe twenty one plus million dollars in dead money whenever they trade him. So they can say, hey, you're going to sit this out. I mean, we'll go into the season and make you uncomfortable. Jammies. Thank you a season ago. It would be hard to imagine that Abyan live on bell would be on their way out of Pittsburgh. But that appears to be the case from two thousand thirteen to two thousand seventeen the two combined for fifteen thousand eight hundred ninety eight scrimmage, George the second most by duo in their first five seasons as teammates only. Former ram standout Marshall Faulk and Tori Holt from ninety nine to three had more. If we've said it once we set at one hundred times, you cannot dispute the production of either of these players, but it is what it is. And now, it would seem Jeff that the Steelers have to figure out a way to move on from Antonio Brown. They don't have to. But it would seem that might be the best. It certainly seems like they should be planning for his absence from the field whether or not they maintain contractually writes. Yeah. But certainly this is a situation where if you're another team looking at this you're saying the Pittsburgh Steelers one of the most stable franchises in the NFL is dealing with this issue. So I mean, I think. That's going to give teams pausing itself when you look at Brown's potential ability in the trade capital, you're gonna have to give up for him. But the Pittsburgh Steelers at the same time have to be looking they're saying like we expect to get something like a first round pick out of them. But the no one's going to do it not not right now. Not when you have an investigation by the NFL into domestic incident that occurred January seventeen not when you don't know whether it's going to be on the field week one as a result of that. I mean, there's all sorts of factors that play into this. I think that the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ultimately will firm, I think this is just going to be more drama before we get settled. Well, we said that Levy on bell couldn't drag out the way a dead and it did. Yes. The entirety of the season. We've seen it happen before Damian and look no one disputes. How hard this guy works or what he can do. But. At the very least this point you have to balance he comes with some some other things some some issues if he will. And if the price is high enough, I think there would be a number of teams he would take pause. Yeah. Absolutely. After this fun. It hard that a team will give one what sitter in considering you had you know, aren't ruined the second just last month saying they found he would find it hard to see Antonio Brown back with the team then Antonio Brown tweets out, you know, basically audience, I'm ready to be out of here. So if you're a team out there, the Pittsburgh Steelers not operating from a position of, you know, a leverage they don't have the leverage in this in this particular situation to you know, command of first round pick. I think teams are going to wait, wait, the Scituate, wait, the situation out and put a price to come down to what they feel like they should offer in a tray Fantoni Antonio boil. I've I've been outspoken saying if I was a team I'd be very cautious about signing AB because of what happened week seven teen and understanding that in many ways, he quit on his football team. But we saw the graphic of the duo's in the yardage in the NFL is about talent is about it's owed school football in the way when we grew up on a recess playground. My. Guy was better than your guy and AB is one of those guys that was always better than everybody. He was the first pick at recess. And so I look back with the Cowboys last year, they give up a one for Amari, Cooper, and totally changes their football team. There's thirty one other teams out there that are going to be looking at a and going. Okay. If if our locker room feels good about it, you mean to tell me he's not worth a first round pick. I know there's variables involved. But if you're a team like the colts or something like that that has some cap space, and you are super close to being a team that is a big time problem for your conference. You can add a six straight one hundred yard or one hundred catch seasons. It's going to give you a legit reason to go. Maybe we do invest that first round pick because he can ABC's one of those guys that changes your football changes. Your offense changes the game plan makes everybody else better. We're going to see jujubes job is going to be harder. This year James Washington's job is going to be harder this year. So know, I totally agree with the exception that everybody knows Steelers. Their their hands are tied. Wait it out. What's interesting to me is like at some point. You would think if the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to acquire something in the form of a first round pick. They're going to have to let in Tokyo Brown essentially shop himself because if I'm general manager I need to look in Tonio Brown's is and find out what's going on. Like, what's the deal? Here. Are you being at first round, Pat seemingly publicly belligerent about the idea that you want to trade because you just want out that bad or you ally ability for organization, I just I just go back to we're talking about the Pittsburgh steel writes, the Pittsburgh Steelers one of the most stable franchise we have in the National Football League. And there was all this problem with that we're gonna nation. So I don't if you come to odd team, I walk room. What is it going to be like they? We'll excel it ownership, right, consistency consistency at the head coaching position solid. You got a veteran quarterback. Ben, ben. But still. Solid to your point Damian. This. This is not a team in transition. Not a team that she used to this kind of thing. If you're going to lose the seasons two thousand part is this closes their window. I mean with lady on hell and AB moving on which it looks like to be the case their windows, close quarter back. We'll see because I've seen. I remember Mike Wallace. When he went to the Miami Dolphins. And everybody said there goes the Steelers number one, and then the next year someone pops in with Joey porter left Jane's Harrison stepped in. That's the one crazy thing about the patriots to a lesser degree. This is why this is why today days like today and this past couple of days. This is why Bella trip sits back and laughs at people because they go look at what the Broncos and the ravens did. And the Steelers can't get right? That's why he that's why they are partly because who they are. The Baltimore Ravens avenue agreement in principle to send former Super Bowl MVP. Joe? Flacco to the Denver Broncos first reported by our Adam Schefter. He's already etched his name in Broncos history when he through this hell Mary touchdown to Jacoby Jones in the two thousand twelve divisional round ravens with later win that game in overtime on Ruth to their Super Bowl championship. Adam Schefter is back with us an atom the next question. I think is to take us through how this deal actually came together. Essentially, Wendy, I think the Denver Broncos got home from the senior bowl after assessing the group of rookie quarterbacks. I think most people agreed that the quarterback class of twenty twenty for the NFL draft is better than the quarterback class of twenty nine thousand nine when Denver saw what it did at the senior bowl. It liked the quarterbacks. I don't know that it loved any of the quarterbacks. It came home it assessed all the veteran quarterbacks out there. And ultimately made the decision to start calling Baltimore to see if good pry loose. Joe flacco and lock him in before another team made a run at him. Keep in mind that other teams were interested. The Washington Redskins did have some conversations with the Baltimore Ravens. I don't think those talks ever got to a serious level. But part of that was the Broncos being proactive making sure that no other team was able to lock in. Joe flacco Denver went ahead and made that deal with Baltimore those talks eat it up very quickly. The last two to three days starting this week and the two. Sides agreed to that trait in principle. What does this lack deal mean for team who might be interested in another quarterback say Nick foles, well, Knox one team right out of the equation, Wendy? The Denver Broncos have their quarterback. So they no longer will be bidding on one. And that really leads the Jacksonville Jaguars the Washington Redskins as two teams who are out there looking for quarterback in who will actively be looking for a quarterback, Nick foles. I'm sure the eagles have trade discussions to see if they could get a deal done if they can they obviously would then go ahead and use their franchise tag on them. But the barometer has been set today. The Broncos agreeing Decem what most people think wind up being a fourth round pick back to the Baltimore Ravens net. Creates really I think something of a trademark it though. There are people who believe that. Nick foles would be the preferable solution at quarterback it's up to each team to decide but some team right now, we'll have to step forward to see if it's willing to trade. For Nick foles, Philadelphia would like to get something back. But Joe flacco we know is headed to Denver beauty in the eye of the beholder even for quarterback seventy. Thank you. Thank you, Wendy. Baltimore was four and five with flacco under center, but the ravens committed to the run with Lamar Jackson running the ball by design on nearly sixty percent of their offensive plays with Jackson as the starter. Which acton? The ravens average and Lee high two hundred twenty nine rushing yards per game over the final seven weeks, and ultimately controlled the time of possession battle, which is what of course, the game plan was with their young quarterback. But Damian let's start with you. You know, listen, we we've got a ways to go here. Young quarterbacks started have to season almost would you see from the more Jackson because we have to talk about the Baltimore perspective on this deal. I think he's a phenomenal talent. There's no I think that's what you have to classify Lamar Jackson right now he is far from being the type of quarterback that you need to win consistently in the National Football League. What he did last, you know, last year and get a credit to John Hoban his staff for crafting a game plan. To suit his skill set that worked for the most part, but we also saw what happened in the playoff game against the Los Angeles. Chargers the second go around. And I think that's where that's where the work needs to happen because that's scheme that they ran last year every defensive coordinator is going to be watching it. So for them to think that they could duplicate run that again next year and have the same type of success. I think that would be foolish on the Baltimore Ravens point. You get a book on a kid, right? The first time around you can fool them once would often not twice in. So they will have to evolve we've talked about him evolving as a passer to a degree. What did you see? I saw a kid that was an incredible athlete but cannot throw cannot consistently. Throw the hardest thing as for an NFL offense is when you become one dimensional. We saw it in the Super Bowl. The patriots took the Rams run away, and they became a one dimensional offensive could do nothing. The Baltimore Ravens are one dimensional with the Margetts. And they are a run first run second run third football team and that plays into defense his hands. Everyone uses the term like he's got to get better as a pocket passer, or he's got to become more efficient that might happen in very very small increments. I cannot recall any guy coming into the NFL and his biggest question was accuracy. His ability to throw the ball consistently down the field and all sudden in three or four years going. Oh, well, we totally chain. Change that narrative, we don't see guys come in with that question. And then all sudden change that the the mar- Jackson's issue is this his greatest strength is running. And then he can throw a little bit in comparison. A Baker Mayfield or Patrick Mahomes by far Kyle Murray coming out by far their greatest strength is throwing the football. And then the wrath lettuce ISM is the added addition. And that's my concern with the March Jackson is by far what you do. Best is run around. Are you going to be healthy enough? We saw leave three or four games this year. Is he going to be able to survive? He changes everything in that organization. Who's your backup quarterback? What are your offense lineman? Like you talked about crafting game plan you have to craft a whole offense around the Marge X into go all in on them. Well, even a guy who's built like Cam Newton. And he's not he's had trouble staying healthy playing like that. Robert through third is backup even him is rookie year when you had that sensation book. Here was an accurate passer, his efficiency, and ultimately that became the big question with Robert. But when you look at Lamar Jackson, and you think about. What he's doing to electrify that city. That's where it gets so interesting to me because he's going to have that city rallying around him throughout the regular season. And then if the same thing happens, though, where starts to get the flavor of at the end of the year, and you can't hold up against these playoff defenses. It's going to be very interesting conundrum that the Baltimore Ravens face because as you just said they're going to have to build the roster around him. Absolutely. They're going to have a fan base that wants them to do that in. Here's the thing we pay in the NFL, you pay left tackles tons of money to make sure your quarterback doesn't get hit. The ravens hate. They, but we saw we saw the chargers go we're just going to play with speed on fence, and we're gonna make sure the doesn't beat us with his feet and challenge somebody else or the passing game to do it. And if you're gonna continuously expose them to those hits which you have to because that gives your offense the best chance of success with him as quarterback, your your backup quarterback cannot be. Okay. He needs to be the thirty third best quarterback in the NFL because he's gonna play. So let me ask you this. Would you have made this decision? Then if you are the Baltimore Raymond's, you probably. Yeah. I mean because you invest in that for because you envision listen. Listen, listen, I cruise ships on the table. We already know what Joe flacco is. I mean, that's that's already. He's a thirty four year old quarterback. Baltimore knew he was it was time to turn the page on that. Now, the the question going forward, what type of who we want as a as a backup in office. Do we want a got a similar to Lamar Jackson? You cannot change everything you'd have to check your whole game plan around this. This'll be fun. Well, no, I mean, the Broncos getting jokes. We'll take twenty hits again. But Lamar Jackson at least the ravens like it's going to be exciting. I just is it going to be sustainable over sixteen weeks. Everything in the history of the NFL tells us, no, that's my that's my concern is everything says, you cannot sustain those hits. When did tier point Cam Newton is the biggest freak I've ever seen on a field and the hits on him. Well, and that's the thing in the March accent is not built like. If you had to tell them one thing, then you can't tell them not to play the way place. You can't tell them to not have this Trump's he has what would you tell him? Praise flawed just slide up get down get out. Learn to play the game from the neck up fair enough took -nology truth. Brought to you by Geico. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor. What's Janet's fangs? Did she lose that? With a weed whacker? Oh, sent wait. No, no, no, no, no proof. Eat so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Janet, I think my phone was hacked or something Goco, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Adam Schefter reporting Antonio Brown as officially requested eight trade from the Pittsburgh Steelers his relationship with the team as we know now unraveled over the course of the two thousand eighteen season despite his production on the field. And it's really crazy when you consider that let me on balance Antonio Brown could be moving on both rank top three in the NFL and scrimmage yards from two thousand thirteen to two thousand seventeen combining for ninety seven touchdowns the most by a pair of teammates during that time. They've also combined for six first team all pro selections balance averaged one hundred and twenty nine scrimmage yards per game in his career that's the highest in league history and they'd be streak of six straight season catching at least one hundred passes is the longest of all time. You cannot argue that they are productive when they're on the field. Jeremy Fowler back with us. And we we saw Jeremy James Connor somwhat effective in replacing levian bell for the Steelers at running back last season. Now, they turn the page and. It looks like they'll have to try and replace Antonio Brown. Well, Wendy the Steelers are going to be realistic here, they know a player of Brown's calendar. Cannot be replaced. You can only retool without him. And so despite Ben Rothlisberger leading the lead in passing yards last year. The Stevens would like to see a little more run pass balance, you can expect to see much of James Connor with Jalen Sanyo's backing him up, and perhaps even a veteran running back in the fold. I spoke with juju Smith Schuster recently. He said he's eager to show he can be a number one receiver anti that's necessary. Evil lose that's the next step in his evolution. And then wash for titan. Vance mcdonald. He is a major chemistry developing with route this burger he had seventy two targets last year. You can expect that number to go up. So now if things play out the way, we expect it looks like that the only three of those big three if you will that remaining we'll be Ben Rothlisberger. And he's entering the final year of his deal aware, where does his contracts talks stand? Well, the Steelers had the killer bees, Wendy, they're hoping to just keep one be in high at this point bell and Brown as it looks like it's gonna happen. But route this burgers contract isn't the highest priority for the team. L Brown situations might be little more pressing. But the Steelers ideally would like to see then under a new contract by the start of the league year or perhaps earlier they've already been in contact with rather this burgers agent, Ryan toner, and it's funny GM Kevin Colbert told me a few years ago, he thought route this speaker had three to four prime years left. Now the Steelers have gotten the last two years to see row this burger in action. They believe he's in better health, and he has even more prime years than they thought. So you can expect a deal with probably at least three years on it. I Jimmy thank you. Speaking of more prime years than we thought we turn the page to Tom Brady he continues to pile up records at the age of forty one one the AFC east sixteen of the last eighteen seasons. Wow. Including this season. He's reached the conference championship game in thirteen of the last eighteen years. Also, the most by any quarterback all time Tom Brady is the most accomplished quarterback in the Super Bowl playing in that game nine times all coming since becoming the starting quarterback in two thousand one and Brady's six Super Bowls are the most by any player in league history. He's also the oldest quarterback to hoist the Lombardi trophy. Jeff Darlington recently sat down with Brady and asked the question. Everybody keeps asking how long will you play the chance to do something that nobody has ever done at forty one years old. Is there any chance that this is your last game? Zero here. I don't wanna just sit zero. Yeah, zero I've said that for a long time I feel like I'm asked that a lot and I feel like I repeat the same answer. But you know, I I've set a goal for myself at forty five and like I said before it's very hard to make it that far. I know how hard it was this year, you know, and the commitment it takes. And hopefully, I've learned from some of the things that happened this year to be better next year. But every year is tough. Rainy, one the first of his six Super Bowl rings in two thousand one campaign when he wants Super Bowl thirty six seventeen seasons between winning his first and latest Super Bowl, the longest gap by any quarterback all time and nearly double the gap with the next closest guy soon to be hall of Famer Peyton Manning. He says it's tough. And you know, obviously, you have a brain it's tough. But I swear he makes it look easy. I mean, forty one he'll be forty two in August. I just sort of boggles the mind your mind undecided that I'm just going to do that method that TV KADO, whatever. I mean, that's. On your head. It doesn't really matter. I think you know, talking to before the Super Bowl, and obviously then he wins the Super Bowl in very clearly not going away anytime soon. I think what he's doing right now is now a dating what he preaches when it comes to being able to have longevity. One of the things that he told me that he kills like what he's doing right now is setting blueprint for younger athletes to do this exact same thing as they develop and they get older, and he hopes I know this is something that is near and dear to him and something he will do after his career. He hopes to to show people that pliability hydration all these different techniques that he uses ultimately are a better answer. If you do every single thing he does that. You'll have exactly what he's a chief, Dino or your your body will because he's sort of different. But how could it not be a testament to this? I mean, how could it not be? It's working. It's interesting too. Because that's what I've said to people who obviously support and advocate for the TB twelve method. And I think that. It does do wonders for people. But he is. So dedicated like, I feel like if I was dedicated to anything like this to that. I'd be better. He's mastered. It I mean, this is not this is not something very started doing in in two thousand fifteen we're we're seeing two decades worth of commitment and sacrifice and doing things this way. That's why he has slowed down father time is is there a drop off of play in comparison to retrievers ago. Sure. But the drop off is so much smaller than everybody else when they get to that age because of the way he's lived his life. Malcolm glad well has the saying that you become a master of something after ten thousand hours Brady's been doing this for longer than ten thousand hours. He has mastered. The way a quarterback takes care of his body. That's why he's Michael Jordan. That's why he's the Michael Jordan of football because he's changed generations. That are coming after him. Just like Jordan did. Oh young quarterbacks. Aaron Rogers says it himself. I train like Brady now because I wanna play into my forties. Just like he does doesn't hurt to have coach Bill. You. Oh, I knew I was waiting for the. And that's and that's that's not taking away for Tom radio. When you got the greatest coach of all time, and and all the other assistant coaches and being in the same system. I mean think about that he's been he's been in the same system for eighteen years, or whatever it's been shown much has gone right for Tom Brady. There's no question. But he's also controlled everything. He he's taken the variables. He's responsible for instead. I'm going to max out water. And then. Yeah. All the time. I drink a lot of stuff. I don't know. You get into wings. Jeff. That's the next level reporting. Speaking of which I hope you'll be the first to tell us then when when rob gronkowski makes a decision about his future, which I suspect we will see over the next few weeks. So this is interesting one by the way, because I've spoken to a number of people who have spoken to gronkowski. And he they do believe that ultimately gronkowski will retire. And these are the same people that I spoke to a year ago at this very time a number of people around gronkowski who said that. Yeah, he's definitely considering mowing retirement, but give them a few months, and I'll bet you. He comes back around says, I'm gonna give this another run this time around you don't sense that hedging you don't send since people saying, maybe a few months, and they'll probably come back around. He was emotionally spent throughout the season. You saw sort of leave it all on the table at the end there and kind of had a good postseason. But I think I think ultimately the fact that he won the Super Bowl the fact that he's he's kind of filled up the resume to the point where there's nothing else for him. I would not I would be far more surprised if he continues to play. If he doesn't I go back to that one press conference he had during Super Bowl where he really liked opens hill opened himself up. We talked about the injuries and the toll that it takes. How often do you hear that phone player from the patriots? And you just don't never hear there from full play with the patriots. So it's to me that let me into this. This might be like seriously. I think he might be done. I think it's important. Like, listen, I didn't have a hall of fame career lake gronk did I but after I got through twelve years in. Okay. Do I really want to keep grinding or whatnot? It was a much easier decision for me to be like cold Turkey. No, I'm done because I knew what I wanted to do next. I knew there was going to be opportunities out there. Once I got done playing that was going to be an easy transition. But a quick one gronk has that too know gronk has stuff lined up in Hollywood or wrestling or whatever he's going to go into that is going to make that decision easier. He's not one of those guys that go if I retire. What am I going to do with? My lightly where where do I go gronk has that stuff? And I think that's going to be easier for him to walk away going. I'm transitioning to what's next he's not gonna farm in Iowa. But I think we're going to hear from drawn. His name was multiple choice. I wouldn't pick the farm section no vocal about having other interests to to your point. The Baltimore Ravens have an agreement in principle. They will send quarterback Joe flacco to Denver. This first reported by our Adam sceptre, keep in mind. The trae cannot be officially processed until the new league year begins on Wednesday March thirteenth so will likely not have any official reaction until that point. However, redo have our Broncos reporter, Jeff leg. Walter joins us now from Denver, and Jeff what more can you tell us about the decision to acquire. Joe flacco as potentially the team starting quarterback. Wendy. This was Joe flacco was among a group of quarterbacks. The Broncos started to evaluate shortly after the Super Bowl they kinda zeroed in on him. And then talk sort of began in earnest with the ravens earlier this week. So they've they've got a framework of a deal in place. They they can't formally agree to it. And they can't formally acknowledge it until the start of the new league year. But it sounds as if one of the Broncos two fourth round picks one of which they got from Houston for Damaris Thomas. One of those two fourth round picks. We'll go most likely to the ravens to complete the trade. And again to repeat again, no public reaction expected at least right now. But I know you've had a chance to sort of dig in with your sources what what is the team saying or potentially players reacting to this trait. I think in general, Wendy, the players, I've touched base with like the fact that the team is being proactive, you know, the offensive guys like case keenum, they liked what he did they thought in a lot of ways with the injuries and the offense of line. The fact they traded to marry his Thomas that Emmanuel Sanders suffered a season ending achilles. That case keenum actually did about as well as you could with what was on the field with him. But overall, they like the fact that the Broncos are doing something that they're being proactive, and that flacco has a postseason resume that most people are familiar with including here. I mean, the the the the play you know in the playoffs here that back. Back in two thousand twelve I believe when flacco hit that hit the big play at the end of the game. I mean, everybody remembers that in Denver. So overall players, you know, like the move, and they they just wanna see what it means for keenum. And what it means for the offense moving forward. Thank you. It's interesting that you put it that way. I've never been a huge proponent of change for change's sake. Which I think you could make the argument. That's what this is. They would probably disagree. But you know, maybe sometimes that to to Jeff's point, you just need to do something until you find a longer term solution. Can you buy that on the surface until we hear from John Elway? It does feel exactly the way you just say that it feels like change for change's sake. I mean, I think John Elway just can't find satisfaction in the quarterback position that he played so well, and it's such a fascinating thing to me that actually reminds me of the store I'm talking to Adam days when Dan Marino the out of practice. Right. And and what are the things gays joke about with Marino's Marino. Come in there. And we're great guy and be like, you know, Ryan tannehill just sit in there. This is like you Dan Marino. It's not that easy. Some of these legends to evaluate that position. It's not as easy as it comes to them for everybody else. And I think maybe that's the case here. It's just fascinating to me that someone who is so good at doing. Something is having such a difficult time assessing that very thing. Okay. So let's go go from that point. Then you'd better be real careful about assessing and making a decision about a draft pick, which you clearly need to look at a quarterback, you need some folks in there who can offer some descending. Opinions. I would think Damian. That's what I would think. I mean, again, you talk about talking about a Denver Broncos organization that has over the past few years of had a litany of quarterbacks along the lines of again like I said earlier Cleveland Browns. This has seemed like a position that has just got John Elway befuddle right now. I don't know what type of change they made in the front office to maybe help John Elway. But this is something that has. To be fixed in fixed quickly because it's here we're getting further and further removed from paid Manny. And it's just the focus the focus the fun. The phone number numbers. They were willing to pay an investment Brock Osweiler. If he'd agreed to take it. Let's be clear they got away with one there because he said, no, thank you. Really? Wow. This is the reality that the Broncos are experiencing with so many NFL franchise do the desire the never ending pursuit to find their franchise quarterback. They had John Elway for a long period of time. And then they went through a couple of years, and then it got many. So it's you know, the Green Bay Packers have not had to do with this for thirty years because they've had Brett farve to Aaron Rodgers input. So many organizations go through this try this guy tried that guy. Maybe this late round pick. We can strike on you continuously search to find that guy because it makes it so easy. But to your point you think after six tries at some point you're gonna hit one, right? You'll discredit shot. But you're right. But I don't want to discredit John Lewis pursuit of Peyton Manning because that was brilliant in its own, right? He sold Peyton Manning on the Denver Broncos. But that wasn't an evaluation of the position we knew at that point. Right. Peyton Manning was one of the greatest ever play the game like this from Russia. There's only so many franchise quarter. There's only ten guys in the world in the world that are your organization changing franchise quarterback stirs. We knew we knew Trevor simian. Throat for a while. I would love for them to put that less backup. There. Look at those quarterbacks. That was seizing you making me nauseous. The paper. It doesn't get any close out. Damian. Here's your list. Joe look at this. Outside tibo. I'll quarterback. Can you came in that happened friend? I almost went there as a free agent wants well on the list that you could be on the list took part for me to is that like every time it was Trevor semi it's going to be special. And it's like what Texan Lynch these developmental guy. But eventually he's going to get. Listen case candidate, they were aggressive. Remember didn't they move quickly? They sort of they move on that before anybody else. I don't think I think he can fought that. But they changed your tune show quit your point though, Wendi about about case keenum, at least case keenum that you were taking a shot on something. With Joe flacco what you're getting. And that's what's so disenchanting about this move. I didn't have an issue with case keenum, in fact. Your litter? Yeah. It wouldn't work out. But it just, but no, no, no. The problem was halfway through the year. They don't that. That's what the problem is. So so we'll see you again this won't be official until the new league year, which is March thirteenth does. He is one hundred percent fully committed to play in the NFL next season. Now has the chance to become the first athlete ever to be taken in the first round of the baseball breath in the first round of the football. What it meant for the as or we picked them because we thought he was going to be incredible baseball player. It's not a shock to me. He liked playing baseball. He loved playing football. It's a different era. It's time to accept modern day. NFL don't get caught up in. How tall he is out. Probably have island Murray in this hop. Bye. I think teams see magic in his skillset Cuyler Murray comes into the NFL and the perfect year the perfect era Murray one hundred percent few quarterbacks possessed. The skill set of column Murray who the NFL believes will be a first round draft pick in the April and draft. Well, he's all in. Kyla Murray says he is committing to the NFL instead of baseball after solid final FBIS's, and he led the FBI in yard twenty yard completion set an F B S single season record in yards per temp to know, by the way, he won the Heisman Trophy Tim speculation that the cardinals could use their number one pick on Murray. But new coach cliff Kingsbury appears committed to Josh Rosen. Waned or chains or anything? I get the first pick. And so there's going to be a million scenarios over the next three months. They're going to come out. But no Josh's our guy, and you know, Tyler is a tremendous player. And I said that was being very complementary before we played an opponent. And I understand the sound bite. But by said there'll be a ton of scenarios that come up before we get to the draft. Joining now from the film brought to you by Verizon, and it's interesting you knew that would come back to haunt him on students who became the head coach. But he was he was a college coach cliff. Clinks vary at the time sort of pumping up an opponent the way Bill Bill, Jack talks about you know, the Miami Dolphins like the greatest team that ever was when they play having said all that Kylie Murray on Monday came out and said there is no doubt. I am all in I will play in the NFL. And when he did that we sort of said, okay? He's in a what do you see then when you look at what he's capable of on the field. This is the first time we've had a chance to talk to one of our quarterbacks since then is the real do, and I want to dispel myth, and maybe just be run around guy. He can play from the pocket as good as anyone. Why is quarterback Matthew Stafford has been a okay when it comes to statistics? But he has yet to start and win a playoff game. His two hundred thirty seven touchdown passes. The third most by QB without a playoff win joining hall of Famer Sonny Jurgensen and John hito lions GM. Bob, Quinn, addressed the possibility of taking a quarterback with the eight pick at a recent QNA with season ticket holders earlier this week. We'll consider any physician in the draft at any point in time. Whether it's the eighth overall pick or we have multiple picks later in the draft. So we we're in a position now with the eighth overall pick that the whole draft board is really wide open to us. We're not going to really eliminate any prospects. I'd say in previous years at least my last couple of years here we've drafted anywhere from sixteen to twenty two I believe so it's a little bit different for us this year. There's a there's a few more players that are going to be available. And if there's a quarterback out there that you know, we deem could help us, you know, this year or in the future. We'll never close the door on that. Well, then you guys you, and I mean you in Matthew Stafford played together for two seasons. And it's so easy to point to that playoff thing. And that is a big deal. That's why you play. But listen. This guy's a franchise quarterback. There's one of the best fifteen in the world at it. Like first of all Bob Quinn is saying that because he's a smart general manager. You don't ever shut yourself off, especially when you have the big I've I was there in Detroit before Matthew Stafford got there. It was a desolate place that no one wanted to be a part of Matthew. Stafford is the main reason why in Calvin Johnson. But the main reason why people tuned into watch the lines. He's a year removed. I'll I'll say it again eight year removed from thirty touchdowns ten interceptions and forty five hundred yards. Those are Pro Bowl all pro type of numbers. If you look at this past season, Matt Patricia comes in as the head coach. And completely listen. This is his style ball. This is brand that he wants to play. They wanna play good in the kicking game play. Really good defense and run the football. So they handcuff Matthew staff. For in many ways watch the offense in Jim Bob cooter is the play caller. They completely changed their style. What what do we expect from a quarterback that they're leading rusher? Six hundred yards and half the season. He plays with of number four number five receiver like this guy. Can you win a Super Bowl with Matthew staffers or quarterback unequivocally? Yes, it's up to the organization to make sure that you put people around him that allow his talent alone to be the player that he is what don't hand. Come and visit player the question. Always is who you gonna replace. Whether that's a coat GM raining. Are you going to replace Matthew staff with there's only thirty thirty quarterbacks? He's wanted to each one. He's in the upper echelon of quarterbacks in the National Football League in it. Everyone wants to talk about the play, you know, lack of playoff victories. I get it. But reality, that's that's what it is. But again, I would just ask people out there who in the world and you're gonna replace Matthew staff. Well, what happened is you fall in love with the with the unknown right unknown draft pick the number eight spot like is there some we know one that this is not a deep quarterback class. We know too that that is a rolling the dice at best. I get tired of it with with Aaron Rodgers to like I mean, it's not like reliant Super Bowls every year, and you have to put the pieces around him to to allow him to succeed in that Stafford's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. It kind of bums me out that we haven't seen what he can do with. This is around him. You know, what that Heathrow I'll pick. And I'm not Bob Quinn. Like he's got to say that at this point saying that they're kind of enrolled. Mode when it comes to these press conferences, but at the same time, you know, what that eighth overall picture be spent on finding a way to put Matt Stafford in a position to succeed. Just like the Green Bay Packers or any other team with the franchise quarterback who's getting older and is in still the prime of his career. It just seemed like to me when I watch Detroit Lions they've been it seemed like past couple of years they've been adamant on we want to run the football. We want to and it hasn't really happened yet carry on. Johnston's a promising young back. I'll say this about Matthew Stafford every time the line step on the field. The number one reason they ever chance to win the football game is because he's their quarterback by bar on bottom line. What does Dan though? I'll tell you this too. Can you imagine? And you and you this Dan earlier if they if they made the decision, let's just say for the sake of argument woke up tomorrow. Thank you bet. These staffer at the market, can you imagine the frenzy I mean, they'd have more than half the team's going them. How to get them that would says Damian? It's been another week here here. Here's always started on Monday Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. Colin Murray said I'm all in fellas. No baseball for me. I will play in the NFL. So he made it official then later on in the same day. The Cleveland Browns announced they were signing. Former chiefs running back Kareem hunt to a one year deal. He will again be placed on the Commissioner's exempt list until the league makes a final decision on disciplinary measures that was Monday then Tuesday. Here we go with Antonio Brown, Adam Schefter, still hasn't slept. He tells us that round has a fishery requested a trade from the Steelers this right after the star wide receiver tweeted a good bye to his fans. So that was a little bit of a clue and then finally today Schefter again breaking news at the ravens seven agreement in place to trade joke Laco to the Broncos. It cannot be officially processed until the NFL's new leak year which begins on Wednesday, March thirteen. So here's the thing. We're coming back tomorrow, and I expect so. We get a gronk retirement perhaps or want to see some. I want to see a team can say the quarterback NFL is the greatest reality TV show there very is to your point. And that's what's out the wrapping. Quarterback carousel though. This is we had hitting me out. I know, and it is it doesn't always start at the top. Like, Nick foles might be is the most coveted prospect. But that doesn't mean you start with the most coveted sometimes you knocked on that. Flacco. I am surprised that was the first show shirt. If I'm a team out there, and I'm gonna win now mood. I really think I got a good team. I'm gonna go get a guy who weeks fifteen to twenty five straight completions. And make your move away. Your move, wrapping. Do you rap in your free to what would you happen? Come back. Message and data rates may apply. When did it become ok for men to be Lazier softer fatter? 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Welcome to Spain. And fits the podcast. It's made infants I got a partner back at the flying solo yesterday Goff is back to hang out for Spain. And Jason golf with you on ESPN radio, the espionage type and Sirius XM channel eighty. I'm glad you're here. Because we have a lot of talk about. Well, I mean, I'm just always glad you're here. You're here radio Valentine this year. Oh, that's so nice. So I would say the same thing if I was hosting with Jason Fitz, and he would give you a giggly laugh and probably uncomfortable. He's all on gambler. And he is an uncomfortable. Hugger generally ask our men Travis behind the glass now are the hugs uncomfortable or the the approach or the length of the hug. Oh, see. Now. Learn stuff about his body. That is being pressed the race to. Yes. Yeah. It's a lover lover me too. I think it's a Jason thing to be honest with you. Yeah. We we were born with kings names. That's right. You ready to treat? Everybody the same right? You'll be on a show together, and you can hug it out. Hey, speaking of Fulla love the Broncos now that brought us way master are full of love apparently for Joe flacco, the trade that would send flacco to the Broncos can't officially be processed until the new league year begins March thirteenth. They can't even allegedly comment on the deal or the terms. In fact, according to our own Adam Schefter, they can't even discuss or agree on compensation until March and schefters hearing it would be amid round draft pick the fact that it can be reported and discussed right now, and that they have already agreed on something clearly means that they've had some backchannel conversations about what would be sent along with him. But you're you know, they have to pretend they have to keep up as though they aren't officially making this deal. But the most interesting part of this maybe is the fact that nobody seems to agree us to whether the guy they're getting is better than the guy. They already have and max Keller. Men was on. I take this morning. And he asked that very question was flacco in a fringe MVP candidate two years ago. No was flacco replaced by a quarterback. And then the team had much more success. Yes. What happened in Minnesota when they replaced case keenum with a quarterback who supposedly better? Actually, they went in the other direction. I think case keenum has a little Nick foles disease, or at least the sniffles whether or not he'll win you a Super Bowl. He seems to be a guy guys like playing with. I don't know team seemed to function better with him. So I'm not convinced flack goes better than keenum. But even if you say he is you see the kind of offense of weapons on Denver that are going to make a mediocre quarterback. Like flacco at this point in his career special. All of a sudden, all right? Let's let's start with the initial part of Max's comments. Do you see him as a Nick foles type as a guy that that teams play better for or get up for because we certainly didn't see that necessarily what the Broncos us year? No. I don't seem that. Let's be honest about it. I think Nick foles going to turn into a pumpkin at some point as well when it's all on him. And there's nobody coming to save the day like you can play like a backup for three or four games and wing it. And then when it's all on you. And maybe he turns back into the Nick foles that we saw before dark Petersen. But Joe flacco is a guy who a big arm. The thing that I don't like the most about is. If you have that big arm, you'd think this guy's going along every single chance he gets the guys yard per pass attempts were horrendous the last couple of years, and I don't know if I should be excited. If I'm a Broncos fan about a guy who got replaced by a guy who's spotty at best. Accuracy wise and has to run the football in his rookie year. Lamar Jackson Joe flacco had historic Super Bowl run. You know that was the year when when Ray Lewis is being credited for every single tackle ever made me while he what threw thirteen touchdowns and one interception and a playoff run in two thousand twelve and he got paid for it. And he's kind of the the test case of okay? This is what happens when you pay a quarterback that you. Kinda shore about not so much though. And then you strip away the pieces because of his money, and then he can't lift you to the next level. I'm not enthused about it. If I'm a Denver Broncos fan, if I'm Joe flacco, I'm happy to get out of Baltimore and get put on a new uniform and try this thing out. But in the end, this is not I don't think this is a great move for the Denver Broncos. And it says a lot about not only the market, but also about this Dr classes well Spain in Sarah Spain and Jason Goth ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Let's get to the end of what max said, which was also interesting the idea that you know, you could put any mediocre quarterback on that Broncos team. And there's not enough weapons to make them look better than mediocre any different than mediocre. So is it worth going and adding flacco as some upgrade, presumably over keenum. Or is are they sort of doomed not to be able to take advantage unless you can get in a real superstar quarterback? I don't like I don't like to fit. I mean, Vic Fangio is a defensive guy. And of course, they're going to keep going to they're going to try certain things out offensively. And he's going to check in on it. But he's not going to be doing offensive game planning out. I thought you would probably go with case keenum for another year. And then draft a quarterback or two thousand and twenty which they might have to draft a quarterback. Then as well. I the Broncos offense have been a mess. And I think John Elway has been a riding on the Peyton Manning. Find and also being John Elway for few years. Now, you you you give Joseph nothing, really. And then you say he he was the reason why we weren't winning. I mean, you've got injuries. You found a six round running back on drafted rookie running back who made it to the Pro Bowl and Philip Lindsay. But there's nothing on that team offense only that I think he can play above. Yeah. And I think part of the flacco thing is it's just a stopgap. Right. You are taking a quarterback that you brought in that you thought based on his. Form insz with the Vikings was going to significantly change your fortunes, he did not. And you replace them with a guy who was, you know, benched at another place. I don't know that. I mean, I guess the question is should they have waited and tried to go after a bigger name. Maybe Nick foles or a Bridgewater. I mean Bridgewater still such a question, Mark. Because we, but are there are there quarterbacks out there that you think they should have gone for versus making this deal. I don't I don't the question for me is make the dealer not. I think the question is what did you do to get here? Right. And and if John always is answering those questions you've got quite the resume for him, right then. And there I mean, you got Paxton Lynch you got Trevor sending me, and you got case keenum, you know, you've got a lot of people that Goss while as well you've got a lot of people who he has yet to cultivate, yet to develop or evaluate properly. I mean, I don't think anybody would say to themselves, you know, four or five quarterbacks when then we'll figure it out. No you trying to find the right guy. And also, the von Miller windows closing in terms of one of the generation league's best pass rushers. Yeah. I I've seen is fine. And and Bradley Chubb might be good. But you've had a guy who's who's played like Derrick Thomas for the last. You know, I'm, you know, seven eight nine years now, and you got a Super Bowl out of it with Peyton Manning. Who was you know, the Walking Dead pretty much at the end of his career. But you'd think you'd be able to capitalize understand that that what you had on the other side of the football. So I think more so than would you make the trade and not make the train. I think the real reality that's being realized not only by NFL people. But also by Denver Broncos fans, if they just, you know, stop bowing at the altar of John Elway for two seconds is that he cannot he can't evaluate the the position that made him famous, and and you know, the fan investment, I guess has been too deep there to understand that. I'm sure there's some fans who noticed it. But John Elway. Keep taking swings and misses at the quarterback position. Oh, I'm pretty sure everybody's noticed that I don't think that's slipped by anybody that that. Has thus far been terrible horrible at being able to scout. And decide the talent of quarterbacks. He brings to the team. Speaking of that. What do we make of the idea that superstars guys like Elway? Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky people who were the top of their game are not suited to be coaches and managers or GM's are historically not great at being able to see talent. And find the diamond in the rough were even identify the superstar among a handful of mediocre guys are better are you better off with a try hard Konin guy. A Steve Kerr Danny Ainge ago, a player that was good. But not great. Is there anything to that theory? I think we have a lot more cases of guys who are great at one thing and batted another whether it'd be talent evaluation or development of that talent, Wayne Gretzky, we talked about him during the pre show meeting is Thomas comes to mind. Pete Rose is in their Magic Johnson. Short coaching stint is in there. And now, we're we're he's on the clock in terms of being an executive. There's the old time guys like Ted Williams and those kind of dudes, but in the end, yes yourself, how many great players have actually had to do the job or wanted to do the job. Jerry West is the only one comes to mind who who was excellent on both the court and off the court in terms of personnel decisions. I believe les bird if I'm not mistaken when it coach of the year, but his heart really wasn't in coaching. He was he was a guy that wanted to be behind the scenes more so than anything. But there are very few instances where we can look at and say this player was a great player, and then turned into a great coach or talent evaluator. Let's end it to the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed at sarahspain at Spain. And fits at Jason one Gough. Who are we missing? What are we forgetting or backup? Our our thesis. Tell us that we're right named some more superstars at didn't didn't cut the Elgin. Baylor was bad. Right. And he was he was in a tough situation as we found out over the years. Denisa Varda Blackhawks that's another head. Let us know on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed when we come back, by the way, Joel Embiid has been fined we'll tell you about that. Plus the three teams affected by this. Joe flacco deal Jason Goffin for spits. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Spain and Fitz Spain and fit sunny ESPN radio the SPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason golf with you. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Comparing rates to help you save call or click today and find out how much progressive could save you the big news of the day. Flacco kind of traded to the Broncos, of course, nothing can be official until March thirteenth. This means Baltimore officially commits to Lamar Jackson, and it presumably means that case keenum's time with the Broncos may soon be up although jury's still out on exactly what the Broncos are going to do with keenum. Here's Adam Schefter, ESPN NFL insider on the twelve pm sports center with Kerry champion. I think it's true. Now is in the air. I think that's the best way saying, we don't know the Broncos will please. Him we work as contract trying to trade him. I think a lot will depend on who has interest if anybody else's interested what they decide to do how much money to save. Again. I think there are no answers right now as to case teams future. The one thing that we can say is that it's up in the air, it's uncertain. And I don't think the Broncos. No at this point in time. We'll wind up doing with case keenum, but your back or is the new expected sorting quarterback for the Denver Broncos. Well keenum was not as good as people hoped after he thrived with the Vikings. But he gave the Broncos their best season since manning in twenty fourteen there's that right there to best offensive lineman combined for just fifteen starts. They got rid of various Thomas midseason that Emmanuel Sanders got lost to a torn achilles in the final month. So his forty six point nine QBR. Maybe not as shocking as one would think without the weapons and offense of line and. I mean, I don't know. The question is do you really think just throwing flacco into a similar situation? It's going to provide considerably different desserts. Most phrases here. There's not enough starting quarterbacks to go around all thirty two teams. Right. So if you if you look at the bottom third of the starting quarterbacks in this league, there are all guys who are about to be replaced. Like, there's there's there's a dearth of talent there and the problem that that NFL GM's have an executives have is the overdraft of quarterbacks. You got some guys who want to draft a quarterback every single year you guys some guys will only want to wait until you get that franchise changer. And then you find out that that guy might not change a franchise, but you have to pay him. So the quarterback position is important for myriad reasons. But in the end case keenum left a dome left a magical season with the Minnesota Vikings in turn back into a guy who we thought was you know, barely above replacement quarterback. Right. So in the end, he he is what he is. I can't be mad at case keenum, you'd be mad at the guy who gave them a bunch of money thinking that he would be the answer that I think that's what it continues to get back to. Joe flacco is a guy who went to Delaware big arm. Big guy looked like a quarterback and was carried by defense for long enough and had a magical run. Gotcha. A Super Bowl if you would have draft Joe flacco until Baltimore Ravens fans. There's a Super Bowl waiting for you after ten years or eleven years, you'd be happy with it. Now. Of course, you know, parting is is tough at times. And now these last couple of years they've taken a downturn head draft another one. So there's not enough quarterbacks in the world to man, thirty two NFL teams. Well and flacco always skating so much on that Super Bowl run since the Super Bowl in two thousand twelve he's posted one above average season going by passer rating or net yards per attempt was these Gatineau because I mean he was getting crushed every year now. But I mean after the reason he's getting opportunity like this. This is the reason that it took them are Jackson to be drafted and show up for him to be replaced. Right. If he's been basically average, I guess you're surprised maybe that they didn't go looking for somebody better earlier than they did. Now his. His total QBR since two thousand twelve fifty three point eight among the twenty passers with two thousand or more pass attempts over that timeframe the only quarterbacks he beats out our ally. Manning Ryan tannehill Derek Carr, and Blake Bortles and all those guys are either up and trade talks or their fan base hates them. So so so in right. So in the end, I mean, I it speaks to your point there still mostly playing though, which is because there isn't enough talented not him around. There's not enough. I guess what we saw from flacco at the ravens last year. Can you use that as any sort of referendum on what can be expected with the Broncos because he was in a really tough situation you came in? And actually there was a lot of people saying he's going to have a great year. He's looked better than ever. He seems more engaged because there's a fire under his butt because he knows Lamar Jackson's behind him. And instead he gets benched, and Dan or Lobski ESPN NFL analyst was on the twelve pm sports center and said Joe flacco just doesn't seem that into it. I don't know if there's an erosion and skill. It's more enrollment of do you want to actually be playing football? Are you completely there wanting to be that leader fully invested year in and year out day after day? It just seems like Joe is kind of pulled back because of the situation from being that Super Bowl and VPN going on that run to where we see him. Now, he doesn't seem to be the scene engaged guy. Whenever I hear former players turn to analysts say stuff like that you read between the lines. That means that he's either witnessing something that he knows is a key indicator of a guy not being invested or he's hearing these things because usually former players don't come out and say things like that about current players. So that means that this is this is the talk going around Baltimore or in the NFL quarterbacking circles, I don't know if they all get together, and golf or whatever the case may be and when Ray Lewis was calling them out about it a few years ago a couple years ago, everybody thought that's just Rabi and Ray and being loud and being mad that somebody isn't as loud as him. But if these days continue to be said about you after a while, you gotta look around and say, all right. This may be true. Yeah. You're right. I hadn't really considered that there's potential conversation between Dan, and maybe some of the players over there about this to me. It seemed like a difficult accusation to make based on the circumstances. We would love for everybody to handle his benching and be just as involved as ever despite that but Newman it's not surprising that your reaction to being benched in favor of a rookie. Who's got a completely different style midway through the season because of injury, and then not coming back at all that's going to be met with the same vigor and vim vim were go vim first amendment vigor on the same of both of those as as normal. I mean, it's it's a conversation. We had around Alabama. Right. And it's a member station. We've had about a couple of different places. Clemson. Yeah. Where? It's great. When somebody does that. And they have a great attitude. But the reason we talk about it is because it's not normal be the bigger person thing. I always find fascinating, sir. Whether we're talking about social instances or professional instances where it's like come on and be the bigger person. And then we reward their applaud people. Yeah. They were the bigger person. Yeah. That's cool. But what about the people who have so much invested? And then are told you're not good enough anymore. I being told you're not good enough. Whether it be dating or in fast on it. Stop it. I'm just going across. I'm running the gambit here. Don't do that. To me come on saying we start to talk about being emotional again Balentine. Valentine all gonna come back. About me. I'm going to have a guy guy time. Oh, great fits. Fits you. Guys can honk. We can share Jason love is what we're going to move off of this quick note from the NBA Sixers Joel Embiid fined twenty five thousand dollars for public criticism of the officiating which included the use of inappropriate language and this is announced by the league today. He said this from the podium on Tuesday. Do I I saw. Turnaround, the stage flung open the curtain next to it and walked out dramatically that'll cost you for in. This show is brought to you by my computer, rear dot EDU training for a better life coming up. We'll head out to Denver. We'll ask if lack of will be an upgrade for the Broncos or just another head scratcher from John Elway. It's next Spain and bits Spain and Fitz. Geico presents unhelpful home improvement. How To's a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills? So today, I'll show you how to cook. In a serious. Fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. 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You know what? I mean. We'll hang out with the other peop- ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Let's out to the shell Pennzoil performance on ESPN dot com. Senior writer, Jeff leg. While covers the Broncos not dancing now. Not. Worm aficionado? Jeff like wall. I don't know if that's true. But I hope it is Jeff first of all can you confirm yea or nay? Can you do the worm? Yeah. Yeah. I'm vertically challenged. But it, you know, it is a it is a dandy worm. It's a short worm. But that's easier. Physics wise. It's easier to do a worm. When you don't have as long levers. That's disci-. Let's make it up. That's right. Exactly. Let's talk about this trade most people. I've heard are not really convinced black goes that much of an upgrade from case keenum. What do you see what I think you see immediately? What John Elway wants to quarterback. You know, he he signed the really the first short guy as as quarterback when he signed keenum and it lasted one year. So he's obviously looking for something he doesn't have. And I think everyone in the building including him knows. It's a short term fix. You know, this isn't this is a team that doesn't have a prospect. It drafted at the position on the roster. So a short term fix, but he. He's obviously made a decision that flack does work in big games, and playoff games and potential to play a little more settled in the pocket and in their play action game is what he wants Jeff. How hot is his seat knowing that he's a Denver Bronco legend one of the all time greats knowing that he hasn't developed or you know, cultivated or even drafted or evaluated properly the quarterback position. Well, you know, I think it's depends. I think he makes his feet hot. I mean, nobody's matter about him not being able to to fix this that he is. I would say, you know, I just his personality is that way. But I think for the first time people in the public here kind of I'm the quarterback position in wondering. How come you can't you know, sort of get it right over the long haul? You know, the they signed manning he should probably get a little more. Credit for see in the future there because when they did work manning out before they signed him manning could not complete a full passing workout it. You know, it was still a big big question if he would be able to plan a game at some point. And he got it right with that one. But since it's been tough, and they haven't, you know, they've expended one premium draft pick on the position Paxton Lynch and Lynch went old for three training camps in winning the job. So I think I think that's the one that stinks. The most because if you miss out a quarterback in the first round, that's really almost a three year mistake reorganization because you've built everything for that guy to win it. And then when he doesn't it really sets you back, and that's what they're trying to dig out of right now talking to Jeff leg walled ESPN Broncos reporter, I don't know Peyton Manning like what he was good enough because of the defense. I don't know if you went and got Peyton Manning as he was then in put him with this bronc-. Ios team. If it's good enough. And that's part of the issue is right. They have too many things that they need to fix case keenum wasn't as good as they expected. But he was also playing with an injured offensive line and wide receivers that were being traded or injured what happens to keenum, by the way, because they're stuck with a minimum ten million dollars on their cap for him right there. And and frankly, everything is still on the table with Kemin because of that. I mean, he they're paying him seven million bucks guaranteed. Whether he's on the roster or not he makes seven million of his eighteen million salaries if he's not here. So God that nice. That's. And trading that contract is a tough thing. Because of that, you know, it's a it's a big contract for most teams eighteen million dollar based salary with a seven million guarantee. No matter what that's tough to trade. And frankly, they're a little bit of a box because the cap savings if they cut him is eleven million, but the dead money's ten million. So it's really kind of a wash if they release them. So that's why you know, it might be a slim scenario, but the one where he stays as the backup is possible here. And and but they have not decided they have not made that decision. They didn't Elway talk to keenum this morning when things with the ravens, you know, we're we're getting closer to the framework of a deal. So keenum kinda knows where the team that and probably will have to sort through what he'd like to see too. But for the Broncos. They just haven't decided what they're going to do with him yet. ESPN Broncos reporter Jeff leg while you can follow him at Jeff underscore leg. World. Go for golf safe to say, they do not feel very enthused about this year's NFL draft two thousand twenty is what they're shooting as far as the quarterback position is concerned. You know, I think if somebody pops up in this one they like they would still do that because they know this year next year, maybe both they've gotta have a prospect or two in the building that they actually picked. And you know, I think you really are never gonna fix your quarterback spot long-term unless you can say that and you know, they they cut two of their own draft picks at the position last year. They cut Lynch and training camp, and they cut Chad Kelly after he got arrested and not Tober. So you know, they've got a they've got invest in that spot. It's just a question of whether they like anybody enough to do it in the first or second round this year. And then you know, if they don't then yes, probably a late round pick. And then they go after it for next year's class. Thanks for the anti definitely predate it. Thank you, just like well. On the shell Pennzoil performance line. Brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level. Make the switch to Pennzoil synthetics today. Coming up who had a worse loss last night the Lakers or the pelicans both of them stunk. We'll talk about him next Jason Goffin for fit Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Spain and Fitz coming back to the show Jason golf God interrupted trying to tell us how many bowel movement today, he prefers so sorry. That's a conversational have to save for. Early. How the show going right now Goff talking about bowel movements mainly because poop Johnson but Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the espionage, Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason golf that call on ninety two nine the game. And I guess poop isn't appropriate way to sum up one happened for both the pelicans and the Lakers last night. Let's start with the Lakers. They lost to the hawks who have won nineteen games this season appears got them playing hard. But they aren't talented enough to be beating the Lakers on any night. Right. One seventeen one thirteen trae young twenty two point six points, fourteen assists. And a couple of times like you heard in that high and that call where the great LeBron James couldn't keep up with him. He still had a triple double though did. Plus minus zero and this is a team that needs a break. That's what LeBron James said afterwards. You know, we are ready. We we might have been checked out mentally because the all star game approach. It is what he said. Are we going to need to read anything at all into this short amount of time between the Anthony Davis? Rumors and the all star break or should we save our takes on these Lakers till after the break when presumably maybe they've recovered a bit more from that that whole mess. Well, if we're going to go off about how big the Celtics victory was does this whole the same amount of weight. Right. And you also have to to ask yourself. How much of the Atlanta flu was involved here? Like, what was the travel rating through his like, you know, some nights? Really you want to get on a teams good side. Get to a city that they want to go to the night before if you have a couple of days that you can spend their you want it you want to do that for team figure that out, you know, maybe sometimes guys down a little bit late. They got a younger team. I don't know what the case was I'll have to take a look at the schedule where Lakers were before that. But. Yeah. Man. I mean that you can't lose to the Atlanta Hawks. And if I'm anybody if I'm the most worried not just the Lakers fan, but I'm Luke Walton I'm looking around like, wait a minute. Either way. It comes down is gonna come down on my head, and they're not getting rid of LeBron James. They tried to get rid of the three of the core. Young players that didn't work out if if they're not buying in on, and I don't care how much you float through a game. Sarah at some point you're supposed to turn it on is. Sometimes teams jump on you in the first quarter. I you got it you through your best punch. All right. We'll figure this thing out after half time. But if if if you're being tuned out against the Atlanta Hawks or you just can't get it or you need a break and all this the playoff push. This ain't the sixty fifth seat in the west L abroad took off enough time that this team sunk to number ten in the Western Conference and the Sacramento Kings young and just dumb enough to not know, the the the gravity of the situation and keep playing as hard as they're playing Luke Walton better watch out because I don't know what evidence we have that. Anybody besides him should or we'll get the blame. Lebron was asked about the team's postseason hopes after this game. How are you start worrying about the playoffs? To you, the mega domain. That's when you worry about. My want to worry about it. Now, I wouldn't wait until you've been eliminated that doesn't seem like a plan. You mentioned the Celtics win and how we looked at that. And said that is good for this team. They need to stop the narrative that after all the Anthony Davis stuff. They're never going to be able to come together. There was in fact, a whole Larry article in the onion that sounded very real which they often do LeBron Lakers hoping horrible series of failed betrayals brings them. Closer ends a team. This is a great line right here. Sometimes you just need a cascading series of backstabbing lies public humiliation and transparent attempts to replace each other before you realize how great the players around you truly are Russia radio. Right. It's a fake quote from LeBron. But it sounds about right. We're not even gonna get into that comment. You just made that cuts to deep and takes too long tomorrow. All right. That's right. But yeah, I mean, you know, this is one of those things that we're going to hear a lot of spin on it, all we'll come off the break and. We'll realize that we're stronger than we were before. But that might not happen and LeBron James being able to do magical things in the postseason after a fairly regular regular season. He gotta get to the postseason. I to get a ragtag bunch of dudes to overperform, right? What about the kids who haven't gone through this right for four years of losing? What it five years of losing since the Lakers have been in the playoffs. Whatever the case may be start asking them these questions because LeBron knows what to say. And he knows if he says anything dot goes thick anyway, he's LeBron James. He's the three time champion four time. MVP? This thing is the long play. It's also a play for his entertainment in old companies and aspirated us Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma who colleagues a vibrant kid. A he he he seems like he gives decent enough answers. Ask him about missing the playoffs. And and how this off season will feel and if he's going to continue to be talked about in trades like don't ask LeBron anymore. Lebron is going to give you the Kandla. Br. Financer answer. Every once in a while remember the beginning of the season. You know, you guys know when I'm mad something to that effect the came out. Well, guess what you ain't got mad yet. We fifty six sixty games in. You ain't got mad yet. You ain't gonna never be mad. So now start to ask some of these dudes who who feel like who made it through the trade deadline, and all of a sudden, we still lose in the same way that we were losing when I was here by my damn self. So that's why I want to hear from going forward, and that might be who thinks to ship. If one of these these kids who didn't get traded starts to tell the truth about what's really going on with this team. Right. And if they never figure out enough to at least come together in the in the necessary moments to make it to the postseason and put together a run Sarah Spain and Jason gov. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Speaking of teams losing despite superstars being back on the court. The pelicans one eighteen to eighty eight loss to the magic Davis afterwards. Anthony Davis we sucked. Nobody was interested in playing is what it looked like including him three points one of nine shooting only the second. Time in forty four games. He has not reached double figures New Orleans as a team minus sixteen in the twenty four minutes. He was out there. You think when you said nobody was interested in playing he meant I wasn't or was he trying to blame his teammates. He's doing a reverse quarterback thing when we're good. It's us, and when we're bad it's is I guess what? I didn't wanna play can't say that. We didn't wanna play and I'm still here. And you guys don't have to play me and pay me is going to be weird. It this. I think that's just what it is. This is going to be a weird weird twenty five games. So then we'll get over it. But it's going to be nasty while we watch and the last night, I think it was the beginning of it. Yeah. Purgatory for the pelicans on the one hand you can't sit in the rest of the season on the other hand. He's getting booed. They're terrible. 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Jets fired their GM and VP - Mentoring in the NFL

The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

28:38 min | 1 year ago

Jets fired their GM and VP - Mentoring in the NFL

"It's the stink in truth podcast with Marc slayeth presented by core. Water. Hey, welcome into the sixtieth podcast, March Lert longside, Mike Evans, Scott. The huff for deuce in the show. Gotta think are presenting sponsor the great folks over core. Water hydrate with core dot com is a place you want to go to check them out. You get core. Water anywhere water is sold the one of the big blue cap that giant suckle for the ultimate hydration. I mean, you can get some water down you're going with that big giant hole. And by the way, it's perfectly balanced ph. Seven point four to match your body's natural ph level for maximum performance. That is core. Water hydrate with core dot com for more information, Mike, how are you buddy? Well, it just so happens. We got some breaking news really to talk about here. It seems like there's been a game of thrones palace type coup with the New York Jets realize they have fired their GM. Mike. That guy's name again. Mcgettigan monica. All right, anyway, he's gone and VP of player personnel. Brian Heimer drinker and Adam gaze is the jets. Interim GM thoughts. Wow. So Adam it, well, you know, what? My thoughts initially are is once they saw that introductory press conference. They were they recognized. That guy's got an eye for talent. Yeah. And I there and I over there, and I up and down, right? He's got is. He's got Bette Davis is I mean that guy has got like that the weirdest introductory press conference ever. But like, I'm buddies with Adam I'm like, you know, I'm buddies with Adam gays, so at least I think I am he kinda quits. He kinda quit return to my text messages. Maybe because I made fun of his is it's like to me, maybe we're not buddies. Maybe we just acquaintances like you should be like, I should give you grief for that. Right. If we're friends if you can't take that that's on you because you're the one that looks like immediate. That wasn't me. That's you. So if you can't take it, then you know, what? Frankly, I don't wanna be your friend. If you don't have balls enough to take that. Because listen if you and I are really a four boys like if we really are boys. And you do something that's stupid that ridiculous. And I don't make fun of you. It means. We're not boys. It how the guy code, right? I'd be hurt. If you didn't. Right. That's exactly right. Like the like dudes like I've heard this joke in this going to be completely inappropriate. And then people are going to get mad at me and say, I'm insensitive prick. But here's the way, it goes, Mike, and I heard this somebody told me this one a long time ago, the main difference between men and women is that men get together. And they just I mean, they hammer each other incessantly with schist nastiness, right? They make fun of each other. They're just mean to each other. They are breaking each other's balls. And they mean. Absolutely. None of it and women get together and their incessant with the amount of compliments that they pay one another. They talk about our non say looking with great outfit that is. And all and they mean, absolutely none of it. That's the difference. So I know you don't really love me unless you're breaking my ball. Right. That right on percent. Let's how we are. We get together. Every year. I have a vandal reunion trip. You do with your guys, you're college friends or your high school friends or your grade school from whatever the hell, it is you guys do this just kind of a little bit weird. But my buddies we get together. Some all my college buddies. You know, so it was guys. I played college football with like guys we were doing man things with. Yeah. We bust busting heads and cracking helmets and with an ass and taking names, you do your grade school buddies where you you know, you may more than. And you know, and hitting personnel Schwartz. It's Moore's Schwarzer's. Oh, I've always you always coast access Schwartz Schwartz. Hey, there's made their s'mores be with you. So you guys. I mean, you're yours is a little bit. I it just feel soft to me. It's not. Yeah. You guys call yourself the apple dumpling. No, no, no. It's it's been dubbed the tree house gang tree house K that sounds so much cooler. Yes. I didn't that was a nickname. That was given to us. I don't I didn't that you don't create last year. When you went back, you'd go back to the east coast to meet all your, you know, your grade school buddies. Did you guys have a pillow fight? Guys are a giant budget pussies my guys. Yeah. My guy you guys get back together with stories about. Hey, hey, biff, remember that time we took turns giving each other steroids in the but. That's not this. It wasn't bad. Hey. Trying to think of Idaho. It was killer. Remember? Remember that time on kickoff cover when you got hit so hard, you shit your pants. Now that is a story. I'd probably enjoy hearing the is great stories get told over and over and over right? But this is a great story. Let's like introduction to college football. So running down on kickoff cover, right? And he's he's rolling down. You is gonna make a play. Right. He gets blindside gist absolutely ass over tea kettle gets just not out. And and he's trying to he stumbling to his feet and world like, oh, you know, as soon as you have one of them hits because you can hear it. You're on the sideline you're like. Oh shit. Like, it's that kinda hit. Right. You're like oh. And then you're like come on. You're alright do your I'd get up, and he's kinda stumbling whose feet, and that's back when there was no such thing as it can cuss, right? Cousins did not exist back, right? If you've got a concussion, you were just soft. That's what the coach say you got soft offhand king. You know, you gotta soft head. I don't know if we can count on them. I don't know if he's not time enough which count on him. It's got us off it. So he's. Stumbling to his feet where it's you know. And and so we kissed the sideline right? And he's like he's like out of it. Like, he's just like completely. Just completely stumbling around like not kind of not no worries is. And we're like, you're right. You're right, dude. You're right. And he's like hell here. See voted do not to shit out of me. And I'm like, yeah. Way to go. That's with it bounced back up and goes, no, no. You don't understand I've shit my pants. He might wanna headlock. Wow. Gain hit so hard that you group your pants. Yeah. Do you seriously? No, no. No, no. You don't get it. I literally have shit Matan. Oh, oh. That's the story. That's that's the that's timeless. Right. So tell that story. You get the vandal camp your Vano camp. Every summer you're telling that, all right? And everyone's howling like they just hearing it for the first time the best. I can't recommend enough. If you all all you guys out there listening. If you don't do something like this once a year, you're missing out, whether it's getting together with college buddies high school buddies for me, it's all you're right. I mean, I have we we have people there that I I've known since kindergarten. I mean, no joke. So it is the best get together for a weekend someplace, we can get away on a lake or beach or whatever. And, you know, just just, you know, eat unbelievable amounts of meat and drink beer and fit stores. How MRs Johnson explained the difference between violet and lavender. With your kindergarten buddies. Oh, yes. Yes. Wow. What what do you guys talk about it? Are different colors member. That member time useful like good. Remember when we used to finger paid, right? Can you bring me another wine spritzers, oh, there are no widespread through high back to how this all started. What do you make of the jets moves? I mean, isn't it unusual? I'm trying to I'm trying to salvage this everybody. I mean is it this otherwise it's going to be stories from vandal camp for the next hour. But what about? What about the timing? I mean, you you do all this prep or the draft and free as done, right? Yeah. You mean, you got all the players. You're not really you're not in the procurement stage of of the season anymore. You already did it. Well, no, I get it. It's it's the time to do it because it's all done. But what does it say about all the work that you just did? Q? Like, hey, it's the jets, dude. Yeah. Good point. It's the jetty is thing. You can do we check euro Diese checked, you know? I mean, I seriously what what what is your plan? Like all did you look at the players. You took and said we could have been better. Or when you know when you signed. I don't know if there was some type of coup there was some type of hostile takeover like you put all your eggs in the, you know, the atom gas basket and Adam gays didn't like, you know, the general manager of the personnel people. I like, I have no idea. But it does seem to be the jetty is thing you could do. Oh. By the way to you. Don't Adam case was the coach of the Miami Dolphins, you know, and you're you're you're sent there to establish culture. And that's the worst culture any football team in the National Football League. So you know, I mean is it because he wasn't empowered. Like, I if this is a move, Mike if this is a move to say head coach, we believe in your coaching. We believe in in in you as a as a a leader, and we're going to fully empower you. Because if that's the case, maybe it's not the Jedis thing. You can do. Maybe it's actually a good thing. Like, if you really going to empower somebody and Adam gates doesn't like the direction or the people that you know, you put in charge and you're going to say, hey, dude, you're in complete and total control. Here's the here's the issue that I would like that that part to me if that's the case, I think that could be a good thing. Here's the part that I that I struggle with a little bit though, Mike. The struggle would be that. I don't think anybody can be the GM slash head coach you to the grand poobah of all things football, and and have long term success because I don't think you can be great at the one thing that you need to be great at and that's coaching because you got so many of the things on your plate. We've seen this before from you know, the big show Mike Holmgren when he took over in Seattle. We saw it with Mike Shanahan once he got power here in Denver, basically dumped everybody, and you know, appointed somebody is, you know, GM, but he was really the GM slash head coach slash the, you know, the picker out of the coffee that we're drinking in the morning, you know, everything was his responsibility. And I think over time you start making poor decisions. Whether it's coaching decisions personnel decisions, whatever because you don't have kind of a system of checks and balances in place to to keep your organization like to have. Some two to have some some constructive discourse. Because I think you need that within an organization to make sure that everybody's holding everybody accountable. Are we seeing the same thing happened with the cardinals cliff Kingsbury being empowered that way? Yeah. You know, the car nose feel to me like. This feels to me. Like, I'm going to try as the GM of the team. I, you know, I'm I'm like I'm going in a completely different direction. This is like when the eagles hired chip Kelly. And like, hey, we're gonna be like we're going off. We're going off the beaten track like we're gonna we're gonna turn football on its head. I remember for you know, there was a time. They were ten and six, and you know, and and everybody thought this is the way of the future. We don't hit each other. You know, practices are are fast and we drink protein shakes, and you know, we're gonna win a bunch of games. And completely in my mind unsustainable form of a football. When you have limited limited number of people, the cliff Kingsbury things just intrigues me or interests me to see how this goes. Because that guy couldn't win, you know, he couldn't win with Mike Leach's players at Texas Tech. He you couldn't win get Patrick Mahomes who. NFL MVP and you couldn't win. This is the NFL, man. These are the greatest coaches on the planet. These are these guys from game planning standpoint and everything else, the you're not you don't get the line up against the blind sister. The poor four times a year five times a year. I this different deal. It'll be interesting to see how this experiment works out. But I've heard a lot of people say it, and and I don't necessarily disagree with it. You fire a bunch of people you go down this direction. It buys you another dinovite. Another couple years at the GM. Yeah. It does you know, because it's hey, you know, that we've got the young quarterback in need time. So it's it's why we talk about all the reasons why these teams are in such a hurry to draft a quarterback in the first round. And I think a lot of it is job security. It's kicking the can of expectations down the road for as long as you can. Because if you drop that quarterback in the first round people want that guy to succeed in less. You're the car dose. I mean, did you did you see Josh Rosen come out and express his disappointment that that cardinals GM Steve did not call him? Right. Call me, maybe about you know, when the trade went down. And so I guess last year was Rosen. Head nine teams us going to prove wrong for not drafted him. I guess this year's chip on the shoulder is to prove Steve Kaime wrong because he didn't place a phone. Call telling him that you've been dealt right now. It's eleven people. Are it's ten p. People the nine teams that didn't ask me and Steve kind. I'm gonna prove moral DO guy. Call me is that the professional thing to do. The business. You know, lavas don't a lot of us when we will get fired. You know, it has all like we're hearing from top brass you to say, hey, listen, just wanna let you know, we've decided to go off in a different direction here. And we really value the time that you gave to our company, and we wish you all the best of your future. Come on. Yeah. Corporate america. Let's go on Friday. So you you've got the weekend. Cool. He I they know when the best time to let you go help, by the way. There's some boxes at your desk. We're in need, you pack, your stuff and leave. Right. I mean, isn't that how they do it? I don't know. I think that I think that it's like me personally, I think you should call. I think you should call the player and say, hey, listen, this is the trade that's going down. You know, we've, you know, obviously, we've gone a different direction. Sorry, didn't work out whatever. Yeah. Whatever you have to say. But I think it's I think like I think it's the right thing to do to make the phone call. I mean, I think that would be the right thing to do does. He oh it to you have to do it. No. This is the business aspect of playing in the National Football League. And you're learning firsthand. If you're Josh Rosen. You know, exactly what it means to be to be an NFL player at times. Right. You've probably been catered to your whole life. You one of the top recruits come out of high school. You know, everybody loved you. You were the greatest thing since sliced bread. You went to UCLA. You know, you were the big man on campus. Right. You you know, you had your your, you know, your your whatever you're the quarterback. You've got your your your social activism, you've got all these things like you've always been catered to. And and now you're the harsh reality of playing the National Football League. Like, that's that's what you're experiencing right now. Do they owe you a phone call? No. I think it's the right thing to do if you're Steve. But they don't owe you anything. I mean what I mean? Do you want to certificate of participation like Josh Rosen played for us last year? Thank you. You know? Yeah. I know. Well, thank you need any of that. While we're on the subject of what is supposedly owed to somebody. Yeah. What the heck is going on? Would this whole idea of mentoring players so immediate blew up here in Denver. Joe flacco asked about the idea of mentoring. Drew lock and it led to people weighing in all over the NFL world from you know. Kurt Warner and ladainian Tomlinson, and Dan or Lasky all be super critical of Flaco when did mentoring become a thing. Well, I mean like I've always thought that it was important for the veteran players to either to impart knowledge upon younger players. I always thought that you know, that that mentoring guys there's a you have a role in that. That's that's part of kind of quote, unquote, your responsibility to a degree like I hear Joe flacco say, hey, listen, man. I I'm like, I'm swimming right now. Well, think about this one you've you've left an organization you've been in for the you're in for eleven years. You got traded to Denver you're putting in a new system with a new offense coordinator, although you've had a similar system before hundred Gary kubiak, but it's a new system. It's a new office. According to this going to be some new terminology and stuff. And now all of a sudden, you're asked about, hey, what are you gonna do for drew lock and mentoring? Drew lock. And as a veteran player. I'm sure Joe flacco is going will. It's his responsibility. To to learn the offense. I'm trying to learn the like my head swimming. Man. I I was brought here to be the starting quarterback. And to be the best. I can be like, I know Joe flacco is a good, man. I know Joe flacco if asked will answer any question, I know Joe flacco is going to be kind and he's going to be a good teammate. But I think he's right when he says, it's not my responsibility to come in and coach kid like when I walked in the league, Mike, I always thought it was my responsibility. To to learn from the veterans to watch the veterans right to pay attention to glean anything gleaned from the veterans and the way they go about their business to be a professional. And the ask the questions that was that was my responsibility. I think one of the big problems with our country in general is everybody knows a rights. Nobody knows their responsibilities. It's your responsibility as a young player to come into. And to be a guy that's mentor oval, you do to be a good men T. Like if you come in like like, your crap don't stink. And you come in like you. You put scored a piss in the bucket. I don't really want to mentor. You. And listen, I know this people have said well, Joe flacco was no good to know March. That's bullshit. Like, I was I was there. I called the game in Baltimore, man. I talked to Lamar Jackson about he was like Joe could have been better to me. He was great to me. RG? Three was great. I talked to I talked to Robert Griffin. He was Joe's great now. As far as a mentor once they installed, you know rinky-dink highschool triple option offense. What's Joe FICO going to say to Lamar Jackson? Hey, man, makes you feather that defensive end out there. Right. Really get up on him before you make the decision either a hand it all Pichit or to keep it yourself. Like Joe flacco can't tell him anything about that offense. Because he doesn't know. But he was good to the kid. He answered whatever questions he can answer. The he. He. I mean, I like all of a sudden, it's it's a do. We not employ does Denver last time. Do they have a coaching staff? Did they hire an offense accorded or is it Joe flacco his job to come in? And coached the quarterbacks like. There's two people you blame for this. Here's a you have to blame for this. Okay. Alex Smith and Josh mccown, Alex Smith has received rave reviews starting from Patrick Mahomes himself right for how Smith handled Mahomes, and how gracious and how out of his way he went to really. Take Patrick Mahomes under his wing and mccown. Go go back, and there's a Sports Illustrated article that I read not too long ago about the relationship between darnold Sam darnold. Josh mccown and darnold is just absolutely raving about how great mccown is Ben and that mccown is constantly, you know, at his shoulder, they're they're inseparable and mccown really embraced that role. So you've got two of guys who have I guess made the idea of mentoring cool, and you know, how this is a copycat league, especially when it comes to Mahomes. So, you know, every every organization out there right now is hoping that they've got their potential Mahomes Smith type dynamic going on. And so now all of a sudden, it's it's these it's this idea that if you have drafted someone even in the second round like drew lock was that. It's the job of the veteran show him the kid the ropes. Yeah. I mean like, I get it. I you know, I get that. It's it's. I get there's a certain mentor ship that goes on. Right. I understand is a veteran player that you know, that you're that you're going to mentor guys. Like, I understand that like part of part of that is one that young player needs to come in. And he needs to watch how you are a professional like how you go about your your job. Right. That that's part of the deal. Listen, Josh mccown. God bless him. He's a great guy. He's a middle of June quarterback when you get Josh mccown. You know, what you're getting you're getting a guy if you if you hire him you're hiring him with the the like the purpose of coming in and mentoring because you got somebody that you want to be the starter. And it's not him. So you're saying, hey, we're gonna hire you you're gonna come in here. We're let you start until the BI week. And then the young kids going to take over like Josh mccown came in the league at in two thousand and two K. He he exited the league in twenty eighteen k yummy career starts. He has how many years a one two three four five six seven eight nine ten fourteen fifteen seventeen years is that? Right. So I think he missed a year and their sixteen years something years, whatever it is. She got seventy six starts, Mike. Just seventy six starts. He's a career. He's a career mentor. That's what his his legacy. Good for him. He's been great. He's a great guy. He is. It's twenty three and fifty three. In his starts come on. Like, it's not. It's it you're comparing apples to oranges and Alex Smith. You're one hundred percent, right. Alex. Smith was wonderful to Patrick Mahomes, wonderful to him now part of that. It's probably because Alex Smith, you know, outs with probably didn't have that kind of mentorship. When he came in. Remember us a number one overall draft pick that was benched that was ridiculed by his own organization that you know, that was took his team the NFC championship got a concussion, and they could rate wait to replace him with calling Kabir, Nick. So I mean, here's a guy that that that probably wants to the to pass that along to some degree because he doesn't like the way that he was brought into the league good for outs myth for being a big person. But again, it's not like Joe flacco and asks it's not like he's going to try to save. Atolls you're young quarterbacks career. And and you know, I just I look at that whole mentoring process, and it was an important part. Like, it's an important part of the process. It's an important part. Of of how it works. But I know how it worked when I was young. I kept my mouth shut. I came to work. I busted my ass to make sure that I didn't let the veterans down. I watched every move. They made I tried to emulate it. I tried to work on it. I ask questions when appropriate as questions and when all said, and I became the starter. Then all of a sudden, they were like, hey, man. Let's watch some film together. Let's go through this stuff together. Like, it was it was different right? As soon as I became the starter there. Like, all right. You're like, you're one of us. But they were they were great to me. They didn't they didn't come to me and say let me teach you how to take the right step here. Let me let let's talk about this. They didn't come to me and do that. Like, I had I had a seek that out. So I I I don't have a problem with what Joe flacco said because you know, I know that when push comes to shove if he's asked a question, he's not going to sabotage a young player. He's going to help young player. I blame millennials book. Actually, mostly millennials. Listen to this podcast never mind. You guys are great. No, no, no. It's their full. Right. Really is. It's the sense of entitlement. You gotta do it for me. Blah, blah, blah. Totally endear us to them. Yes. Oh that fair. Now sack up. Suck up. It's your responsibility. That's good. That's good. All right. So it's all about mentoring. Make sure your favorite team out. There is doing a proper amount of mentoring. If you wanna have a good successful NFL season. It's right. And don't forget Adam gays has got his eyes on the jets. That's I think if we've learned anything today. Those are the things we've what we've learned very educational podcast. That is correct. Like, the arc presenting sponsor of the great people over core hydrate with core dot com for Mike. I am Mark for Scott. They so much for listening. We'll be back with you later on in the week.

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A Tale of Two QB Conversations

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A Tale of Two QB Conversations

"Hey, guys. So we recorded the first half of this podcast, which actually talks about the NFL free agents and season Shoka patio on Tuesday on Wednesday. We've got some breaking news, which is of course, Denver trading for Joe flacco, I laughed because when you get to the part where I talk about Joe flacco in the possibility with of a trade was she'll well, I laugh lot. So you'll hear that. But it happened. Just quick thoughts on that. It is kind of unsurprising in a way, you know, Elway's obviously struggled in his tenure at GM in drafting developing choosing quarterback pretty much the entire quarterback position has been an issue with him. So in some ways, I think it kind of makes sense that he would go for a guy that he probably uses having a baseline level of competence. Right. Although when you a lot of people pointed this out when you look at us statistics compared to case keenum's over the last few years, they're pretty much the same. And that's why I really don't like the trade for Denver more than anything. Not just because I don't think Joe flacco has a ton of upside over keenum. But because those two guys combined take up like twenty eight point five billion dollars on the two thousand nineteen cap, and they don't have a young rookie that they're gonna go to knows what they'll do in the draft. But it just doesn't seem like a good allocation of resources to me, even if you do get a slight bounceback season from flacco who is not great less ear inn sort of his limited outing. So those are my thoughts on flacco. I guess -gratulations to the ravens for getting a return on him. I heard a fourth, but I'm not sure that's been confirmed again. And yeah, they're doubling down on the Mark Jackson. So that's it for now. And here's the rest of the pod. Welcome back. To the meantime show for welcome. If you're a first time listener, the meantime show, featuring Lenny sorry, I've, wow, I hope you didn't hear that. I left him off the only NFL podcast where one of the hosts is all bark in the other one is on bite guys. Can guess who? I am joined today really the first true offseason week feels like because last week we're still in Super Bowl mode. On the high of the game or the low of the game after this particular Super Bowl. But today we now are fully amidst in like in Tonio Brown tweeting hype videos of himself part of the news cycle, which is where I wanna live. And I am joined by a person who's perfect for this week, my friend, she'll Kapadia who writes for the athletic where he covers the eagles. She's one of the best NFL beer Porter's. I know and he's also really good luck. You know that she'll right? You're like a good luck charm to every team you cover that has been the case. It wasn't a case for short period of time. And and I got this be idle as you know, after they went in Super Bowl, but I think coming to Philadelphia and then winning that first Super Bowl. Yeah. I'll I'll take that. As a as a description, you need to go to like, Cleveland, or Cincinnati or Carolina. Like, I I'm surprised that. Other the teams aren't recruiting you to cover them knowing the good fortune that you bring to them and certainly have brought to Philadelphia which is a big part of the reason why I want you on today because there today is going to be a two part podcast guys. It's the theme is quarterbacks. So I we've got she lawn to talk about just free agents potentially the trade market teams that need quarterbacks the offseason in general. And then in the second half, I will be joined by the shipping container from the Dan lebatardshow to talk about existing quarterbacks and stuff assay, she'll you will be carrying most of the intellectual labor for this podcast. I will do my best. So listen, speaking of labor, it will not actually there's no transition for labor, speaking of intellectuals. Well, now that doesn't really work either. I wouldn't really call on. All right. I brought you on most because I went up by Nick foles. So any other stuff, obviously, you covered the whole league. But you know, fulls is sort of the crown jewel who would have that in twenty fifteen that the words crown jewel and make foles would be used in the same sentence. But here we are to me. He's kind of I don't know if will be the first domino to fall in the QB market or the QB off season. But he's the most desirable. Wouldn't you say? I think so. Yeah, you know, just looking at this market. It is terrible. If we're being honest, it's a terrible quarterback market. This is not the offseason to be looking for a guy to sort of be your at your franchise quarterback for the next three five seven years. Whatever the case may be you know, that that is often the case, I guess when you have a really good quarterback. You don't let him reach the market most of the time. But I think probably what separates both from a lot of the other guys is that the upside is there where you know. I would probably say he's maybe I think I would rank him between like the seventeenth and twentieth. Best quarterback, maybe you know somewhere around there. But I think what separates him is that he can put together a stretch of like three to four games where he looks like one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. I mean, we saw that obviously during the Super Bowl run. And then we even saw that again this last year, you know, the eagles went to Los Angeles. They were thirty. Eighteen and a half point underdogs. It seemed like the season was over. And he put together this game stretch re like let the league in every statistical category completion percentage yards per tempt all of that. So I that's the key with foale's that maybe a team to talk themselves into you know, what he doesn't have to be a top five guy for an entire season. But if he can be sort of good enough, maybe he can get hot. And that'll that'll lead us somewhere. Yeah. I felt for a while that he will since last season. I guess that he's one of the most high variance football players. I've ever seen. Right. I mean. Yeah. It's Blake Bortles is up there as well. But he's played. He's been news bad last year. West Nick foles as you mentioned in two thousand eighteen was pretty good after sort of slow start. He finished the five regular season games with a passer rating of ninety six completion percentage of seventy two percent seven point two yards per attempt versus like you can look at two thousand fifteen I mentioned it with the Rams. Numbers were. I mean his. His look like what is it an EKG where your your heart goes up and down or something? So there's there's really no he's like so hard to evaluate as a football player. I mean, he has as you mentioned the upside and the ability in the arm and occasionally the accuracy. But then in some last year he was phenomenal under pressure, by the way, some of that had to do with the eagles offense of line. Obviously playing a lot better towards the end of season. But even so statistics for themselves. But then just given like it wasn't like he had one bad season. Like, he he's you know, what I mean like he was bad recently. And in he was bad for a while. So I find it very difficult to place him. It's what you said what seventeen ish seventeen hundred twenty is that were you. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the sort of window. I have him in. And I totally agree. It's been one of the weirdest NFL careers that I can remember I I mean, I you know, I was covering the eagles when he had that chip Kelly year twenty seven touchdowns and two interceptions. And I remember thinking like two years later, you know, in fifty years when someone scrolling through like pro football reference and looking at some of the most amazing quarterback seasons. They're gonna look at that. And be like what in the world happened that year to produce that season at an full. And then you know, he sees sort of the bottom of the barrel. Jeff Fisher and the Rams, and it's so funny. I remember during that Super Bowl week when the eagles owner Jeffrey Larry was talking about full this career. And he's like, you know, we just throw out those those ram the ears out the window. No, no, one has a chance there. He was just like totally ripping them whether intended or unintended, and I think one thing that is a little bit of a difference is that, you know, I think the first time around with the eagles and. Even like, you mentioned those other stops the lows were very low where he would just have these total clunkers of games where he just looked like one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. And you could never imagine signing this guy to a legitimate contract. You know, a long term contract at big money. And I think those lows haven't been as low, and I do think he's improved as a player, and he's got really good coaching. You know, he's been with like over the last few years. It's been what Andy Reid Doug Peterson of Frank Reich. Like he's gotten some really good coaching. And I think he's more at peace just sort of seeing you know, that that experience with the Rams nearly quitting football. And then coming back and seeing the highs of the high by winning the Super Bowl. So even this last season, you know, I think he ended the season really punk. He had a great game against the Texas. Really entertaining. Shootout against the Shawn Watson where he threw for like four hundred seventy one yards. But if you know watching the film of that thing flaws in the divisional round, you know, foles was probably the biggest reason I. They lost that game. I mean, they had opportunities and that defense holds the saints to twenty points, and he just inaccurate. He was inconsistent. After those first two drives. They don't score point really the rest of the way. And so those games do still exist. And I think they're going to this for the remainder of his career in. You talked about you know, how he's improved in Philadelphia in the lows are lower. And I grew with that. Right. Even the final games or or the beginning of the season it even though he wasn't incredibly wasn't Super Bowl Nick foles who's like one of the greatest Super Bowl quarterbacks in NFL history. Which is amazing. You know, he wasn't Rams Nick foles in those games. But a big part of that is context, right? I mean, the the coaching you mentioned the talent around him offensive line was better again at the end of the season. So then we when we talk she'll about some of the teams where he might go to Jacksonville being one. You hear a lot thrown around especially since they hired John D Filipo. And obviously they need a quarterback. Then you look at that roster. And you think okay, we've got this high variance quarterback who has these like incredible highs. But is it a bad like what will happen if we put him in a significantly worse situation? Yeah. I do think that that's totally a fair question. But just looking at some of the options, and I think you're right. That Jacksonville seems like a logical fit Denver. I think maybe could be an option for him. I mean, those are teams know the Jaguars. I think there were six than defensive Devi away last year, and they were thirtieth in ofensive passing delay. So there's this, you know, very defined strength and weaknesses on that football team. There's a coordinator there who he's familiar with like, you mentioned in dont, John D Filipa who really knows how to cater to full strength. And he does have this experience, and sort of, you know, the new offense is the west coast hybrid or whatever we want to call him where some of these traditional past and concepts, and then you're installing the spread and the RPO's and all those different types of things. I mean, that's really been what the eagles offense has been the last couple of years. So I think that Jaguars team makes a lot of sense. But you all right. It's not a given. It's not like he's going to go there, and he's going to solve all their problems. And you know, the offensive line isn't good. If the weapons around him aren't good. I mean, those are all certainly issues and the situation would not be as good as it has been in Philadelphia. I if I'm Jacksonville, I think that's probably a swing worth taking but not not sort of a home run by any means. We'll say that Jacksonville team signed Blake Bortles last year to ace three year fifty four million dollar deal. Right. I was just looking at some of the contracts from last year trying to just like figure out what he might make. I mean one thing I thought that should be a bit of a market center for guy like fulls or some of the other free agents. When I talk about Bradford signed a one year fifteen sorry sorry to save is not laughing. Sam Bradford signed a one year fifty. I'm really trying to get fifty million dollar deal. So you so you gotta think fulls given that they'll probably a market for his services. The aforementioned horrible -ness of the quarterback market. He's going to get something multi-year, and it's going to be something more than that. I imagine it comes in under twenty. But like what we're do. You. See it falling. Yeah. I think I think right around there. You know, I think it's possible that it goes to twenty or a little bit more than twenty. I think keenum got eighteen last year, and you mentioned Bordeaux's got eighteen. I mean, if I'm fold to Beijing, I'm saying that's the floor. You know, we got it above that. So, you know, I think around twenty million dollars is not crazy for Nick foles is just the way sort of the quarterback market is. I mean, I think there's fifteen quarterbacks making twenty million dollars per year or more. So you know, it sort of that's just what the market is. And if you want a guy who's a starter, and who certainly been better than Bortles, and and keenum than that's what you're going to have to pay. And I know the eagles are sort of floating this on franchise tag idea. I know they do want to try to get something for him if they can. But I I have a hard time unless they have a deal in place already, and they say, okay, we have a deal in place. Now, we're gonna use the franchise, tag, and trade you right away. I have a hard time imagining there. Going to take a risk and franchise tag him and have that twenty five billion dollar cap hold and then go out and look for a trade partner. I think that's a little bit of bluffing on how we Roseman and the eagles Puerto. I I think the way we're talking about this is the right way. I think the most likely scenario is that he is just going to end up being a free agent and having his choices team. Jacksonville's, you know, they're picking in the top ten, but they're behind New York as much as it is a bad free agent market for quarterbacks draft is not not much better. Which again contributes to why we think Nick foles is going to get paid. There's a new edition. Kyla murray? You might have heard him and on that note, by the way, Arizona Cardinals coach cliff Kingsbury came out and just said Josh's, our guy speaking of Josh Rosen, so sort of quashing the rumors that Kuenssberg who obviously has an affinity for Murray and probably wouldn't mind having him in that offense is going to. Trade Rosen and intake Cuyler with the number one pick I use squashing very gently tentatively because I don't believe any of these people when they say that stuff. But you know, like, I I guess I I don't the reason I even though Jacksonville's picking early high. They could draft a quarterback. It's not implausible. I feel like because they've been through such QB hell over like. Well, I don't know. I'm torn. So you said, you know, Jacksonville foles over the reasons we talked about, but they don't have a lot of cafes. They're actually dead last, but they could make some do some financial maneuvers, and they don't have a ton of free agents that they wanna sign, but. It might be financially better for them to draft like Kylo Murray or a drew locker Daniels. I mean, do you like what makes you think that they're more likely to take Nick foles into do that? Well, it just seems like with that team last year. They were I don't even know if it's the virtue falling apart. It felt like they were really falling apart at times. Whether it was what the the fight in the locker room the record. I mean there were there were games where they just didn't show up. But again overall, I think the defensive talent is still there the defensive production was still there, and yeah, I was looking at their cap spaces. Well, I think there are moves they can make make without really affecting their kind of core defensive players and still still have room to acquire somebody like make full. So it just seems like, you know, if they're gonna kind of go for it with that defense, and you know, they're not really big sort of juggernaut in the AFC. This might be a good time to do that. And and I'm always for not leaving yourself with just one option. So, you know, maybe it's you do sign Nick foles. And then you know, you obviously not gonna probably then use your first round pick on quarterback. But who knows maybe there's a? Guy you like in the second or third around like give yourself multiple options. Because unless you have that guy who, you know, he's your fantasize quarterback is just so hard to find the find the next one or, you know, be sure about it. Whether it's agency are Trey. So I'm always for, you know, go with the veteran at the draft pick take a bunch of swings. See what happened? The guy gets injured. You know, the rookie gets to play. Maybe he provides a spark through all that. So I don't think it has to necessarily pre preclude them from going to the draft and taking a quarterback. But it does feel like they might have a small little window here with that talent on the defensive side of the ball where they could make some noise in the AFC. And it's so crazy that like you look at teams like that didn't take a quarterback less year. You know? I mean, knowing again, how high variance like bars was or a team like New York, which should we? I think we both think our is probably going to draft a quarterback maybe Dwayne Haskins and hold onto ally for another year something that could've done this year as well. You a much better quarterback? Draft. Edina. I think maybe is in the most difficult position of any Dino. What team I'm talking about of any team quarterback wise right now, can you? Yes. It's washington. He got it. So men that contractors. Speaking of Alex Smith's deal. So just a quick recap. The guaranteed him fifty five million dollars with a twenty seven million dollar signing bonus fifteen million of that will be paid in twenty nineteen. So you know, that's a sunk cost. They're basically there there. There's nothing they can do next year twenty twenty. It's a little bit interesting because his salary is guaranteed for injury. But wickedly it's guaranteed for injury based on like now or something it's invest in twenty nineteen. It's very bizarre. I have no idea why they did that. So there are offsets if he comes back, but regardless the given the what we've heard about how devastating his his his injury is in the very symbolically hood that he might he might never come back and play. It's a really it's obviously a worse situation for Alex Smith. But it's it's a terrible situation for Washington. What do you think they're most likely to do because they had to do something right to that quarterback? I think so. Yeah, I don't think you know. I do think one thing that is true with foale's is that he wants to make sure he goes to a good situation because he has been in the worst situation. And so I don't think that is Washington. I I mean, you never know, you know, team offered the contract, and you could change your mind. But I think I have the quarterback will Washington, and you know, in my hours and hours of prep for this podcast me. I was looking at the market. I was looking at the teams and I found a quarterback nothing. He does can be described as above average. He's good enough to be playing, but probably not good enough to win anything. And I end that description seems to fit very well with Washington. And I think that might be Ryan tannehill Danny hill really injured. Maybe I don't know how I mean it speaking of injury. I mean Dana is like an interesting. Well, I don't know if Miami is going to move on. I think right. Save about half of the cap like thirteen million. I've got so if they've just want like a fresh start new coach new coordinator, I could see them making this move. Just white the stakes lake clean. Right. I'm not sure that they're going to get a quarterback better than tannahill. There are team that I've seen Kyla Murray mock too, by the way, but if they do move on from him, I guess Washington makes sense. I had thought nice one for them might be teddy Bridgewater. Do you think he's to give? I like I like if I were team looking for a quarterback. I would love the philosophy of let signed teddy Bridgewater and draft somebody, and I feel like put a little bit in each of those buckets, and maybe come out with something I think rich waters worth taking the risk on. I was watching his you know that last game of the season last year. Obviously, he didn't play great. But then you look at the preseason to and one thing I did think with him is that they're like a lot of example in all those games about Tim moving. Well, avoiding pressure, you know, the bootlegs or scrambling outside the pocket and that obviously after that knee injury was the biggest question, Mark. So he's only twenty six years old. You know, I think there's some upside there it may never work out for him. That's obviously possible. I think a lot of people are rooting for him. But we saw when he was healthy that he could at at the minimum give you competent quarterback play. He's young. And you know, I think even a team if Jacksonville doesn't go with bowls. You know, if I were them, I would say, hey. Maybe let let's go with Bridgewater. Denver. I don't think that's crazy. Then because you know, he he's young enough where if he does work out you have a guy for a while. I thought maybe Miami. But you know, it seems like Miami's just gonna like tank and you're not really try to put out a good offense on the field. So I yeah. Maybe washington. I mean, I I don't know what their cap situation's going to be how much they're gonna want to spend. But if I were one of these three four five teams that really needs a quarterback, I like, the strategy of signing Bridgewater. And then also giving yourself a chance with somebody in the draft. We sit Denver it just occurred to me I have no idea who's running for offense right after the kubiak thing fell through. I like it is I do know who it is. But his name was a little bit tough to pronounce. It's not someone will. No, I'm trying to know. It was it was the Niners quarterback. Must've been a San Francisco guy because Fangio. Yeah. The last two years his name is rich skin Gorell. I hope I pronounce that correctly. Yeah. Okay. Well, I know nothing about him, and what he likes to pack. So nothing to add that I mean, you sometimes you think for the defensive minded coach they they really liked quarterbacks. You don't turn the ball over defensive coaches also tend to like mobile quarterbacks which is not teddy. But that's totally speculating. I mean, those are pretty much. I think the teams are like. You know, Denver possibly Miami Jacksonville. Obviously, Washington New York, I think we both agree is gonna draft. Then you get into a bunch of teams at like don't need a quarterback. But might be looking for the next answer. Like cincinnati. I throw that out there Detroit. That's I mean, the humor the Stafford. Rumors kind of last year, I guess. Clinton. I was beckoning CLYDE. I don't know if they're trying to do anything with Derek Carr. But I know, you know, we did a piece for on the athletic where I just asked all the beat writers about whether there you might be interested in foles and victim four who covers the raiders, you know, said it's known that Jon Gruden was a big fan of Nick foles. And also another thing there. That's interesting is Mike may I get the preseason games for the eagles for several years. So he's he's like on the sideline at practice talking to Howie Roseman and Doug Peterson. And so he has like sort of this intimate knowledge of Nick foles, both you know, what what we see publicly and what he was like, you know, sort of spe- hind closed doors. So I mean, I don't know if that's a if they would get rid of car, and if they're gonna look for somebody that does seem like sort of a wild card that might be out there where like we'll just wake up one day. Now, the raiders traded Derek Carr, and they're going to do something else at quarterback. I don't think that can be ruled out. Either. See I'd like to remind you of something you said about five minutes ago, which is at Nick foles doesn't want to be in a bad situation. Girls to Oakland. Nobody Bill by actually hinted at the same thing to me. It sent chills Domus about. Going to the raiders now. And you know, they do have a ton of picks. Right. So they could hold on see what in that contract is points pretty easy to get out of. So they could not know him. I know him see how that goes. Yeah. It's entirely entirely possible. Just one last quarterback. I wanna ask you before we get to questions where do you see flacco next year? I get that. I mean that contracts untradable, right? I know John Harbaugh like I was reading up on his his is quote, and he's making Joe flacco out to be you know, the greatest quarterback who's ever done. But on the face of the earth trying to create a market for him. I mean, I I don't see how a team could think that trading for that contract. And starting flacco is their best option that just seems like you're sort of torpedoing torpedoing your franchise a little bit. So I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen there. I mean, I would imagine he's going to end up having to just get released. I haven't looked at what those cap implications would be. But then, you know, any one of these teams that we've mentioned here, you know, that just sort of would add another another name to the mix there. I I haven't been at Big Joe flacco fan. I find him to be one of the hardest quarterbacks just to watch in terms of when the red zone comes, you know. You know? They're going to be one of the hardest quarterbacks to watch wanted to ravens have come on the red zone. Like the last three years. I've just like gosh. Is there not an option for me to say give me a blank screen and then bring it back when you bit to another game. I I don't know. Thank you far. That's how I feel. That's how I feel now. I'm with you. I I mean, I just think most some of the other options we went over would be better than flacco. And I I really don't see that trade happening. But uh she'll I'm hoping you'll stick around because as always we're gonna take a few questions question question. Lenny for your thoughts. All right guys as ever if you leave a positive review in my teens, please remember my mom, sometimes reads them, I'll answer the question. First one comes from an home who asks me at if attending Gail was special given the developmental role played football. Wow. So for those who don't know. This is like a really coming in hot this week. Really cool pack us, you know, you. Super hip. Now might be well, it's this is safe space for that kind of question. So for those who don't know look up a guy named Walter camp. Whose response I think they call them like the father American football. And he was at Yale and created a lot of the rules of the modern game and took it away from rugby, but to actually enter question, I never went to a single yell football game because I like forward passes. Lenny wise, the clown. Wow. That's disturbing and also great Halloween costume idea for my dog asks. Ooh, she I wanna hear your thoughts on this. Is it okay to wear a different teams jersey to a sporting event. So like separate from the two teams who are playing or he says a different sport like wearing like Russell Wilson juries you a Mariners game. How do you feel generally about cross jersey pollination? I do not like this. I do not like if the seems or so it's teams playing and you are wearing jersey of a different team playing the same sport. Like, what are you doing? Why are you there? Go home. And watch the team jersey you have on right now, if it's different sport. I still don't love it. I feel like you shouldn't do that. But if it's the same city, and you know, maybe the other teams doing well, and you're showing support for them that will be acceptable. Like the Wilson to the Mariners kind of thing. Yeah. I think though, that's really sad. Because like the Mariners, you know what I mean you remember from lying. Yes. Like oh. I'm gonna wear the jersey of our successful team. I love it. So I was thinking about this at the Super Bowl because the people it's off comment like the Super Bowl, right? Because a lot of people there don't even really care about they just had corporate taxes or whatever. But I just think it's such a power move to be like, no, I'm gonna wear my Bengals jersey to super purple. It just cracks me up. This is a tough one. But h g c sixty five I hope that's not like a password for anything or left that asks how many seasons will the chief Super Bowl window last? Well, they got to win one. I I actually picked them to win next year. I mean, how do you feel about that generally? I really thought last year was gonna be candy reits here. I mean, I couldn't believe it even at that Super Bowl with unfolding. And it was you know, no one was scoring and it felt like maybe these aren't the two best teams. I just thought how did it not happen for him last year? But in terms of the window. I mean, I don't know ten twelve fifteen years. It feels crazy to say, but they're going to have one of the best quarterback. They're on unless he has some on. Hopefully, this doesn't happen. But you know, some type of injury or that type of thing the window should be should be wide open for them for a long time to come. So I guess that's a sort of a sense of hope optimism for chiefs fans. Even though it didn't go their way last year. I pick them next year. Just because as you know, statistically, it's a lot harder to repeat on defense than offense. And I see no reason why their offense won't be. Amazing next year. And then I imagine that defense can't can't be worse than they were a during the regular season. So I feel pretty good about them Matthew Stafford infection really killing the names today. This is like an inside joke. So you have fans that yes win is the best time to tighten up. The best time to tighten up is Saturday because you're still hopeful about the titans prospects C Y B N six asks I'd like to hear your answer for this. What is your dream around? The horn panel is last question. I'm going to take today. I'm gonna go with. Oh, sorry. What was the question? What is your dream around the horn panel? So four sports writers. Demane for it doesn't have to be people who are on around the horn. Currently just wanna so I'm gonna do Ray Ratto. Who is where I find hilarious. Bob, ryan. Jack node maybe like Dan Shaughnessy who was like somebody like really grumpy Solan really like trying to put together like three grumpy people this. This is a tough one. No, no Francesca and stugatz. That's my forte. Because that would be incredibly entertaining to me to watch them try to deal with Gaza's takes. I think that is a good one. I think francesa absolutely has to be on there. How about Charles Barkley? He would be a good one too good. I think, but yeah, he might be too good that that would be fun. I'm actually trying to scroll through my Twitter here. Now to see who. I might be good did hot taker you know, one how about we give a shout out to I think we up we're both the fan are Ted win. He, you know, he he sometimes come with some sort of all we know he knows football and Xs and os. But sometimes they'll throw a tweet out there that you're you're not expecting it all about food or coffee or something he might have some untapped potential there. Ted is great head was very confused last night. Because some of us tweeting about the bachelor he was like why? Ten ted. You guys should absolutely at F B football analysis. I think is his handle great film, breakdowns, one of my favorite writers at the athletic where she'll my other favorite that seem strong one of my other favorite football writers works. Thank you so much for joining you know, what she'll I have one final question for you before I little gray. Nick foles next season. Does he have a winning record? I will say. Yes, he leads the jazz or to the AFC south book that wow, you guys you heard it here. I do Pro Bowl MVP, Nick foles. She'll ca potty called it. Incredible bold. Take. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Thanks for having me was fun. All right. We are back. Well, not really back because there wasn't a break. But imagine that there was a break in our back. And I as promised I am recording here in Miami. With the shipping container supposed to make note. I I. Before we started. I asked you guys if you had listened to my podcast, and nobody had bike said he kind of had he was on at once on one time. I wasn't even listening. Oh, well today since this is like the second full off-season podcast like mostly we've been everybody's just laughing at me previewing the games. But now, we get to do whatever we want. And we've been talking about the free agent quarterbacks. This is record actually after yesterday I tape with she'll so the flacco news drop today, which how are we feeling about your turn into the one unit in America? But you'd like to get the best possible. Joe flacco thoughts. All right. Let's lead off you going around the horn. How you doing this because you're driving? Yeah. Yeah. So well that wasn't my plan to have like a hardcore football conversation, actually, first of all I've gotten a lot better at driving as people listen to the podcast have commented on my itunes, one person said that. Thanks. I appreciate it. But I thought we could talk about the quarterbacks like generally like the NFL quarterbacks. But I didn't wanna put too much pressure on you, guys, knowledge wise. Yes. Mike my arm up because you're driving, and I want to make sure I make us as easy as possible for you. Did you know Joe flacco never made a Pro Bowl? What was crazy were not too surprising? When is not right. He's been around forever. Do you guys by the theory that Elway keeps picking crappy quarterbacks because he wants to ensure his legacy as the best Denver quarterback in franchise history. I like you like, I don't know that I buy, but I like it. My theory is that he's actually I don't know if that's a phrase like as in this podcast somebody who cares. A lot about size. When you think about it? We can get away with more on laboratory than friends can we? Okay. Well, I don't know the phrase I was gonna use. It's like an internet phrase for people who care about those things. But I'm interested in. I wanna hear I'll tell I'll tell you guys after the show, I have advertisers now. But when you think about it. Okay. So I have this theory that no quarterback. You can't be six foot six or taller be good quarterback. And here are some of the quarterbacks. He's taken Paxton Lynch. Six foot seven Brock Osweiler six foot seven. And now Joe flacco six foot six it kinda checks out when you think about it who's a really good like you can't be too short. But you also can't be too tall as a quarterback. Philip Cam news the perfect sized quarterback. Six five off the top of my head just under six six. Yes. But like not Peyton was six five rothlisburger villas live guys. I said six six you're close. Same size is Joe flacco who has one of the saddest. Centuries in his Wiki pedia reading the third paragraph starts despite rather pedestrian regular season statistics and no Pro Bowl berth as the two thousand eighteen season. You know, Joe flacco probably has the biggest glow up though of any quarterback like one day. He just came back significantly better looking than I mean, Andy Dalton is in the mix. But as far as you know, a hotness improvement. He's really up. It's all about the haircuts. Yes. I've realized this you got to go to the Barbara once a week is the life much. That's once a week like every week. I go to the Barbara once a week. I look like one month budget for haircuts. I go like four times a year you got to sign up for the loyalty program there. So I have a list of questions where I want you guys to name who you think the quarterback is in the NFL who has the X of whatever question I'm going to ask and let's start with that who has the best haircut of any quarterback in the NFL. This is Patrick Mahomes easy. Patrick, Mahomes, says super cool hair. Nick foles is six six. Yeah. And he's been bad champion. We talked about Nick foles in the serious part of this cat. It was a good conference. It was grabbing before this was great. We were just silently listening. What was your favorite part? Oh, the like were you start talking about like where he goes from here. And where he's going to go next talked. You have the SuperBowl. And it's coming up next in his life. I don't want to spoil it even though you've already heard it now. Didn't. Although I guess some people might fast forward to this part for you should rewind and listen to that because it was really good. Who is the quarterback? You think you could beat in a fight? Why didn't answer my hair? You didn't answer the hair. I didn't think you heading on by the looks on your faces. I go Andrew luck. Gonna look at me. Like, I'm weird. He gives off like, I don't care. What you think? I don't like people that try to hard. So it works. No, no. It's it's shaggy times. It's short. Sometimes he trims it. Make long thing in the back way that I was doing it in my head was let me think of the worst and work my way up, and I started with Angela any don't also great here. He's a fantastic here because he goes to Barbara once a week also had a big glow of right where one day it was like, whoa. Got bad hair. Wow. That air not a fan of his hair. Roy who's got the best hair homes. Yeah. All right. So to from a homes, and I'm gonna go totally unbiased opinion. I love Baker Mayfield say oh my God. The most normal hair any, Nope. Nope. It's back to quarterbacks that have improved. Their look Tom Brady is better looking now than he was is what's going on there any cut his money like how rich people are good looking because they can afford the finest skin care have you noticed? Rich people don't seem to get sunburned. This is something that I picked up on a long time ago. And no one wants to go down this path with me, and I can't figure out why have never seen a celebrity with like a really bad sunburn, maybe expensive sunblock is there like top level. Some it hasn't can't afford in Korea like being light skinned for years was like a sign of beauty, and we can get too complex, racial dynamics. But but mostly it was for economic reasons because it meant you didn't work outside, and you I guess we're a fancy hat. I don't George Hamilton as about ten. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're Hamilton this is but he's like a celebrity because of how some burnt orange dark. Cheeks. So the fight who's the quarterback. You think you beating a fight business? What we're one Russell Wilson sometimes has the worst hair, and then the best hair he grows it out. I I like it when it grows it out. I don't like it when it's like those full hawks that babies have like parents who think their babies are cool. He looks like a baby with the hawk sometimes, I go Nick foles. I think I could take him even though he's six always really tall. But he just seems he's much crazy reading genuinely nice, and I feel it just struck him quick fill. I take we'd have to be a starter. No. Sam Bradford county still in the league. That's a great answer. I'll go into look now. Yoked Rakia with his bare hands to do would would pick me a stay what kind of fight. Are we talking about? Read books. Who's Andrew luck impersonation is better mayor, Mike, dude? Again, they'll let me close my eyes. So I don't know. So this is unbiased everybody listening closer is unless you're driving are just run a great book. Hillbilly I will do all right now. The next person word I wanna fight. How close the eye doctor when it's like one or two let me here to again. Peter's are my favorite food one. It was one one was better. He's are delicious. Oh, yeah. I opened my eyes. Now, I was number one. Why job Meena these underrated? I wanna fight you li-. I like my chances. Yeah. That's clearly the right answer, Hindu luck. Right. You think Andrew luck would be easier to fight than Eli? I think it's a tie who's a quarterback mobile mon- who's a quarterback you'd at least like to fight. Josh Allen, obviously Baker Mayfield. Yeah. Baker mayfield. Probably Feist is the quarterback. Who reminds you the most of Stu gods? Oh boy. It's got to be someone with a rational confidence. Can I go retired? Jay cutler. Yeah. Yeah. Nice and friendly and engaging. Oh, that's. Wait. He's not. He's always that way with these. He's he's looking for something. There's no quarterback asleep years. I'm looking at the corner now. Closest that's why can't go in the act of quarterback. I don't think I would fight Philip rivers. I know this is the old question. Like, I don't know. He just has a crazy about I don't know that I could try Andrew luck has ROY. That was a terrible answer by us me, so nice. But if you got him angry like, whoa, what kind of fight? Are. We talking about though. Like is this like saying chin fight rules that like old you any hold on? Oh, hold on. Manson, I've got it more. As like, I'm defending my family means you'll ready foams at the mouth, and that's him not being upset at all. Andrew luck. Does you know what I hate about myself? I mean, there's a lot of things was that Meena, whatever. What are the top five? I know this is the number one. Oh, man, we doing the top five. Oh my God. Descending. Order number five. Is I'm always cold really cold right now that's up there. Number four is my inability to keep three thoughts in my head at the same time. It's why I struggle with. You can do two or four does not three. Are you can't do three or more Billy? Okay. Number three is the thing. Which is even though like I'm not like a fan. He so obviously the quarterback I'd be friends with and I hate that about myself. I feel the same way. Could be friend unified really, well, really genuine and like a really nice guy. And he doesn't seem like he's like like he doesn't think he's better than anyone. And I feel like I could relate to him a little bit. Or like, he just be the only person that put up with me because he's not going to tell you like, look, you're annoying getaway from me. Nice. Is he have you met him? Now. How's hager? Right. Can I ask you about that? Do you think Aaron Rodgers would be my friend? I don't think so he likes you. Yeah. But he seems to cool when he joined the radio show. He said you were as favourite. Yeah. But he was he wouldn't like me who just feel like this guy's borne. So having been around not only him, but his friends right, which would be telling of the kind of people he likes. I actually think he would like Billy the best out of off work you or me likes crying on the inside, right, man. So bad. Yeah. The inside just tell him Baker Mayfield would like him, and he'll be happy. We'll see we'll see I haven't met. I think it's hard to get bigger may feel the like you really you only likes Christian yelich us attack. And everybody jumping off the top rope on Aaron foster who I thought was kind of like -able. Erin foster re tweeted, did you see the video that the Browns tweeted out there? It was the actual video that all the gifts came out of. Okay. We'll never gonna agree. They're big Baker Mayfield. Dancing on doing all the all those dances. And the Browns tweeted that out with the caption your quarterback could never and Aaron foster re tweeted that with the caption would never oh area. Foster had a coming. Then that's an attack. That's been bigger Mayfield. Did the thing that bigger Mayfield does which is taking which quarterback? Would you want to take a four hour road trip? Is you're going to be answered look for everything Billy. I haven't answered in for anything yet. But this has to be someone that I would vibe with and that I would get along with him would get along with me get back to me. I'm going Andrew luck. Because you could just get some stories, and he'd just be mumbling. And it'll be really funny. You know, the problem with Andrew luck. And me I feel like really early on. He would realize he's so much smarter than me. And I would just not be like interesting enough for him to talk to. Here's why I think Andrew luck would be totally engaging in a car ride. We've seen the photos of his phone. We've seen the photos of his car. I think he's a super engaged driver and talker. He's not gonna be distracted by an iphone. He relies heavily on the conversation in the car because he doesn't when he's in the car and clearly never listened to the radio. Yeah. Who's driving this quarterback driving or my drive? I guess the quarterback if he's driving definitely Angela because he's ten and two for sure to talking. Yeah. Thing. Russell Wilson's the last person that I'd want to go on a road trip with really boring. I feel like if I'm driving you put me to sleep. I don't know. I just I'm looking at these quarterbacks. I think he would be what's the goal on this road trip? Are we trying to be entertained because then you might want someone that's involved in some sort of Tom foolery? Do we want to be friends with someone that has good music? Like, what are we trying to do? How long of a ride is it four hours four hours? All right. So we're driving New Orleans, and we can't sleep. Are we going to Disney with them if we're going to leave you can't sleep? I guess it's the quarterback gets tailored to your like. Yeah. Like, I want someone who'd be like, hey, Meena, who's yours after put on a podcast, I cry. So obviously under luck again because yours, ROY wait. Who would you fight? Did you enter any of the other questions? I don't have to answer. The question is Eli that Mike was right? That seems very I didn't know that we're actually going for right or wrong answers. I thought I'd say he's right in my eyes, ROY. Matt Ryan you'd like to write in a car with Matt Ryan. Yeah. And it's shocking answer, you just. Very mild. Who would you go by? I fight Andrew luck. It I'd go on a road trip with Matt Ryan who are you about that? Out. What quarterback would you go to DisneyWorld with? I know this isn't your question wholly different games. James Winston easy. Oh, oh my God. It'd be so much fun zone. Watson sound. What's really fun? I think Mahomes would be really fun. Although maybe he's like two now, and you'd be recognized much people was like too much of a signature looked like he'd rather go with someone who's a little bit more anonymous. I wanna I wanna answer for this. Because I just feel like he's so youthful and joyful that he will love any ride that you go on and make it in admission. Andrew Alexa, been the first name that's popped in my head. I'm forcing myself to Nazi Andrew lock. No out of the I'm gonna. That don't have Andrew lock. It's impossible answers. Philip rivers. Looks like a dad at DisneyWorld. Yeah. With fifteen. Exactly. Yeah. Let's go in the past. One them's got a leash. But if you go with Brady, you'll definitely get to the front of every line like not everyone's going to know, Pat Mahomes. We can all agree. It's a different experience entirely. If we picked Tom Brady, he's got the past past Cam Newton. It would be fun at DisneyWorld hang. Yeah. Yeah. He's good with kids to like has it joyful spirit. I was around Brady for the first time ever at the Super Bowl in like I expect in the locker room afterwards. I expected him to like sort of emanate dislike starpower, he's really normal. He's like not that big. He has like a nice kind of personable way about him. I really like came out of the experience liking it more through say. Hey mita. Yeah. He did. He said love your work. What measuring on the Dan lebatardshow? You bet you be your best. Oh, I promised to God's. I would save it for the radio tomorrow. I have a story. Now, he'll be so mad. I can't betray differently. IT's? Did I don't know where he's he doesn't listen to the podcast. So is the quarterback who was most likely to have burner accounts. Well, this is one of the few times I'm not getting answer Baker Mayfield because he just puts it out on his normal one. And it's not like his his Twitter account is a burner account. Phileas Tom Brady really seems a care teams. The case. Especially the last couple of years definitely his whole rallying cry was just essentially what eggs were saying on Twitter this season. So mine is Ben Rothlisberger. Who like weirdly blocks people who have never tweeted him on all the time. I'm shut let me check and see if you know Ben Rothlisberger is actually a great submission and has the right answer since we're doing wrong answers. Now vine Jameis Winston I could see that Roy's ROY. He's got a right answer to congratulations. Thank you. I'm just checked Rosen's up there. Oh, yeah. Yeah doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. Quarterback you'd be afraid to make direct eye contact with easy. Baker mayfield. Josh Allen looks like he's got some crazy in them who I saw him at Billy. He was at that party. We went to not afraid to make an eye contact with reenter max. Oh. Oh a oh zone. Is receivers folks. Josh Allen was at the party that the party that you in Charlie came to this one. There were a lot of people there. But I haven't talked about it because I feel like it's bad form to talk about it. Right. I don't know the rules. I don't get invited the cool parties often. So I just haven't talked field Yates was there their juvenile. Josh Allen at that CA party because you've been crushing, you know, who someone came up to me at the party. I tell the story do it. And I was like turned around as person was like Meena like, I love your work. It's a really great big fan. It was clay Travis. Oh. Sure to react boy. And now your friends did you say, I agree. Same. I said, I I also love my work who's the quarterback who you feel like you can do your job better than you. Or the job that will currently do Baker Mayfield. Hold on dance face timing me right now during the podcasts he he does that. Hey, Dan, we're we're recording with Meena right now. Okay. That's the good stuff. Right. Facetime Meena like. Timing. It seems to be don't wanna insult anyone. But it seems to be a thing that older people are doing now is faced all lanes. Why is that because they're like, oh, I figured out technology there. Because anytime they watched a movie about the future when they were younger is that's what the future meant voice face calling. I always had the futures a watch that you'd push like a hologram would come up, and you talked to the hologram on your wrist. Well, when that comes out when we're older imagine how much we're going to be doing that shit describing Star Wars Billy is that Star Wars. You know, I'm not a big Star Wars person. I had to describe the plot of Star Wars on guts podcasts really hard to do. It's really complicated. And most of what I said was wrong. Even though I've seen Star Wars. The only thing I remembered from the original Star Wars was Luke Skywalker being on a planet with his uncle. And I thought the name of uncle was Ben which I don't think it is. But the original Spiderman. Are you talking about the tattoo? We tied to do a quote when Lu Lu scour. This is literally the only, quote, I remember from the first Skywalker is Luke Skywalker. The first Star Wars is looking like. I want to go to planning. Technology or something. I don't know if it's Ben. When you described Star Wars. Do you start like at the beginning since they have like the ones that came before? Now or do you start like in the original that one because I had to describe that movie? I was doing the thing where I pretend like I've seen movies that I have I have seen the original Star Wars fans of your question. I think drew Brees is like a know it all who thinks he could do my job better. I feel he looks at people as I do that. Yeah. It's another one that I might struggle with the eye contact there. What about you guys? Again Baker Mayfield. You really think Baker Mayfield could produce. Dan, lebatardshow is together you can do anything. He puts his mind to why. So you better. It's actually really great answer your answers. I can even better every time. How's this work? Can I ask a question? I have one I have one that thinks it'll be fun democracy. If you had to remodel a bathroom. What quarterback? Are you asking Josh Allen come on? Oh, no, tastes hill. Oh, he's an hills should've been answered like half of these now like Philip rivers is pretty handy I can picture with a tool, but what are we using them for because if it's for the demolition? I get Matt Stafford like he could knock down some drywall. I think I'd save money. Get Tatum hill because you could do the demo in the rebuild. I'm still Josh Allen dick Mullins, I saw him at at the super weak. He is small Nick Mones, really small guy. Are you like on the forty Niners roster page right now know just looking at last year. He just loves Kyle Shanahan quarterbacks. I feel like if I had someone sorry to interrupt that I needed. So this is on the inside of my house like in terms of like a steady. Yeah. I'd pick. Russell wilson. Just looks fashionable to me he's really wouldn't pick out. What would what if something you wouldn't pick Baker Mayfield for the fight one before I one clearly I would lose out one. I want pick a quarterback that can win aflaid. Okay. Like if Baker Mayfield walked into this room right now after introducing yourself scream scream like how I wouldn't be able to control the I can't recreate it because I don't know. But some noise would come from my like, I couldn't completely stock scream or like a girlish scream those sort of which we don't normally hear might be it might just be an actual gasp. No, it'd be like like where I struggle for the air. It could be something like that. It could sound like Mr. Belvedere laugh. Kinda touch him. Never like a hug. No, never not even a handshake. I could never know. I could never not worthy who's the quarterback most likely to love the show the big bang theory. I wrote these questions I was sitting on a plane next to a guy watching the big bang theory. Andrew luck. Yeah. Jacob how stop no. He's like game of thrones. Brock osweiler. Oh, you're all love shell dish character. Jack Doyle reminds them. Our our all true to tuck them. How? Really enjoy the one slow build them or Herschel character. Are you enjoying the slow build on murder? Shelley's care patient me too man, like give us some plot. Right. Like, I Mori that it's gonna be one of those detective shows where everything's revealed in the last episode, and I hate that which quarterbacks terrified of scary movies. Russell wilson. Stop. Like ally. Does not mess with scary feeling. Jimmy, miss Winston. Oh, that's a good answer. I don't like scary movies either. I don't know what you guys Mitchell Trubisky. No, no, no. He's was do you think that's better than James Winston? Or did. I take James from, you know, knowing or are you going with another couch and and product. Oh, that guy showing any sort of emotion. I I see him like getting up and walking out at like a scary movie. I should've done by the I contact one. Now, I wish I did Mitch Trubisky because he's got those like coal like lumps of coal for is like a snowman to intense like the blackest black. They're like dark, and they're always staring at you. And they're tiny like almost if we could change answers. I would do Ryan Fitzpatrick for that one big band theory for I contact, oh, I was gonna say big bang theory. Because he's you know, he went to Harvard. Okay. Yeah. That's what I meant. Like, the big bang theory. Because they think it's dumb. They're like this is this is this isn't accurate. This is in how we do things. I don't even know what they do in big bang theory. What's their science that they do? They like astronaut people only lost it sitting next to someone playing. But I feel like I know everything about the show based on that, you know, are there any shows that you commercial, and I know everything there is a no about that show. What about young Sheldon? It took me forever to realize that that was a spin off. I know idea because I didn't know who Sheldon was. What was that? Oh, that's the one. That's like rude. Is the quarterback? This'll be the last one because I feel like I asked to Khosla who you would want to marry into your family and not name Baker. Nothing baker. Well, he's all him. I just want. Somebody knew how close into my family. Why take my wife? Baker Mayfield, Mike great honor from getting married, and she marries Terry Bradshaw. That'd be really cool. Yeah. Okay. Mic said that I'm thinking of the the looks like, you know, the legendary, you know, the one I'm thinking of the guy who pays money to watch which oh. We don't need to go there at all. We don't have to go there. We can't even get away with that on laboratory friends, but I absolutely would. Jimmy garoppolo. Also, I would. Go handy dome. Just because he kind of would fit in with the look of. Oh, yeah. Actually one more quarterback question. And then we'll forty nine. I want everyone to go around and pick the quarterback who minds them the most of someone in the group, but that that person can't pick his own quarterback. So that's why. So who is a quarterback? Who reminds you guys? Most of Mike Ryan, Mike Ryan can't answer the question. Obviously, it's not Baker Mayfield. Why is that obvious? I don't know. Actually, I don't think it is. I think they're pretty dissimilar. Actually are we doing like on looks like personality wise personality. And just vibe really more than anything more looks. It's easy. I get that. Aaron Rodgers thing all the time. That's you do look like him. I'm a little scared of what they say answer is going to be trying to find like the quarterback that like says, the least than that would be ROY. But I can't Abby Dak Prescott. Yeah. Okay. Doesn't say. I was going to not do that. I was gonna say mariota for you. Oh, yeah. Mariota. For roy. Is is really good. Yeah. I think. Billy. Angela nobody wants to be. Who's a quarterback that is feared most? Meter? Joe flacco headshot kind of gives me Mike vibe. I was gonna say just overdoing. Overdoing? It actually has a really dry personality. I've heard for doing look so you guys are gonna pick for me. Oh, I get Josh mccown for you. Josh mccown is classically handsome. It might such a good dude to John mccowan key like the coolest nicest best we have a looks like it says I was going through a packet yesterday. And it said Josh mccown looks like an ace fighter pilot from World War Two. Yeah. He's also like the woken like white player in the NFL, which doesn't like again his loan. That no he is. He is years ago. I went to a chat Ocho, Cinco charity event in hokey. It wasn't shadow. What you're thinking? It was an ink Juan bulletins charity event. Chad Ocho Cinco is there and translucent. Josh mccown was the only white football player there because he played with anquan Boldin. Dude is so cool. Andrew hawkins. Explain this to me because I I don't remember where they they played together in Cleveland. So, but he said that when I asked him about house like why is special counsel cool? He's actually was Josh mccown grew up playing basketball and just left it at that. And you remember the video of him dunking that circulated hoop? You see that? And you're like, okay, I get it. When I saw him. He was out on the basketball court unusual in a basketball hoop. Chris trough? We're gonna what white Dak Prescott. I'll take you like facial hair. And you get the backwards ones. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Billy, billy. He's tough. Russell wilson. He's like wholesome. T I dare go. Derek carr. Really I think like who's like a quirky quarterback. Andrew luck. Really quirky. You are Andrew luck. I give up the joke who'll okay if you say, so. Then you'd be flacco. All right guys finish who's the quarterback for me in the one there. Wow. Baker mayfield. All right. I'll take it. I wanted to bring Lenny on to ask you question. Well, he's he's in LA. And, you know, not everyone likes the voice that he does not them. How's it work? Not. I listen all the time. But for the people that are joining us for the first time. How does how do you work Lenny in does he actually arc or what? Well, you really don't. He asked the question at the end. And it's usually like an insulting question. You know, something like, I've I've a question for you. So I know the Christmas gift that you got from Dan. And it's four Lenny right for you, an Lenny. Yeah. That gone for you. It's been amazing. I wonder if it would work all the people what it is. So Dan got me, by the way for listening. We'll take a sponsorship from this company because I use your product it's called a for Bo I'm showing it to the guys. And it's a Cam where you can see your dog, but he has to be in the room where it is. So I'm connecting right now it also notifies you when he's barking in. He is in the room. Wait now, that's just putting into. It was a pile of Linkin. It wasn't Lenny. What's his question for us? Well, wait, how does it work? So if Lenny's in the room, you can like call Lenny over again, throw a treat with the camera. You throw a tree I've taken some videos show. You can't do it without him in the room. But then they're just be a treat sitting on my living room floor thirty. Yeah. Throw truth today. It makes a noise. I'll hold it up to the Mike. But to treats are now just sitting at my. Yeah. Cool. I'll show you some video. It's pretty cute because it'll be like. Ooh. And then I don't you can also your voice, I don't like doing disembodied voice with him because I don't want to confuse him is already like technology already fake voice with Lenny so Lenny Vienna. Develop a voice, a robot voice. I don't want him to fall in love with the voice like walking Phoenix in her. Like, if that voice was giving him treats, I feel like it would create like a sort of complication in his mind. What's his question? You want him to ask you a question. I listened to the pod. Actually, I I was lying earlier. So I want the I've been waiting for the question on the back of this was a recent thing when I joined Lenny wasn't asking questions get rid of it because it's divisive. Well for those who haven't heard in her just tuning in because the laboratory and friends rub. Go ahead and do it. You wanna question for like one of you is in particular or for the whole up to Lenny? Of any really like to get over. I mean, you requested the question already. Right. Mike. Why? Today. That was the question. Why am I grown today? Here so much. What are you compensating for? And why do you love the attention question? Wow. Wow. Like hold it together. I think that was a shot at Chelsea for losing signal. Oh my God. You're ton of Lenny. I know you're a supporter of a losing six here. Well, it was really nice Hakkinen Lenny, and yeah, I think you should ditch the bit you ever. Do you ever dancer? Lenny you ever. Call Lenny Len. Yeah. All the time. I have a million nickname. You saw that. Yeah. We call Leonard Leonardo Bomani causing Leonardo. Oh, what do you do? When you're mad at Lenny. What's the angry? I'm mad Atlantic. They is full name. Not all Len is a nickname. I came up with like, man. It hasn't been ten does sixty four is another name. Yeah. That's a good one. My sister's dog's name is Minnie. And sometimes we call her Minneapolis, Minneapolis. Minnesota Evernote Lenny in the jets news. Let let let Lanny and the jets I do a lot of like songs, and I'll just sub in his name. Like, thank you lead. Wasn't revealing this. That's the number one thing by the way that I hate about myself that I ended up revealing things in these kinds of situations. You clay Travis story. All right, guys. Thank you for coming on. Really? Appreciate some really great talk. Talk. Some good Xs and os and quality football chat with my chums. Hopefully, guys come on again.

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Joe Flacco, Lakers, LeBron James, and Antonio Brown

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We're on iheartradio, Fox Sports radio. Siriusxm channel eighty three. Today. We're an f s to flip over today. Joy Taylor is joining me joy. How are you this morning? I'm running the bible to limit fell news joy. We'll hit on this morning about thirty minutes. Her line news little story today in the NFL. Joe flacco won a Super Bowl an MVP sign a fat contract. Never quite the same is going to the Denver Broncos who have case keenum? That's never been John Elway guy. John L Y think getting tired of drafting quarterback. He hasn't been great at that. He whiffed on Paxton Lynch. So John Elway said I'm gonna hire a old defensive guy to be my head coach, we can run the football. Very well, Denver always runs the football. While doesn't matter who the back is. And we just got a veteran strong armed quarterback. This is this is what John Elway wants his team to be an Elway hadn't had a lot of success in the dry. Drafting quarterbacks. And so he's like listen, I'm going to get a veteran quarterback who's had success against good teams a winning playoff record Super Bowl MVP, not the most accurate thrower today. Not in. He's got a little Cam Newton. I don't I don't trust flacco and Cam delivering the ball tight windows, but a huge arm and they're going to run the ball because Dan rose does that's what Denver does and they're gonna play their butts off defensively with Vic Fangio defensive guy, and it'll be kinda boring football Fangio never big personality flag on a big personality. It's just going to be Denver Bronco football. This is what Denver played for years and years and years in the rocky mountains going back to Craig Morton. I mean, frankly, even going back to John Elway. They ran the ball. That's when they wanted to bulls and they played events, and that's where they're going to be. And they're going to be better. How much better I don't know. But they're better today. Denver Broncos are a better football team today. I think with Vic Fangio coaching and with Joe flacco quarterbacking and Baltimore is gonna get you know, they didn't have to give up. Anything to get him. I mean, they're going to give up. It says here amid round pick. If you're better a quarterback and all you have to give up a fourth round pick. That's good. That's a good day for Denver new coach new quarterback cannon arm. One on the road winning playoff record. Always went toe to toe with Brady and FOX Perot flat goes, not great not top twelve guy. But you're gonna give them a running game in a defense. You going games with Joe flacco, he's a much better armed talent than case keenum. And by the way, the ravens create clarity ravens are like, you know, what we're doing the Lamar Jackson thing. Let's not have flacco hovering around us it, by the way might might gut feeling on this is Baltimore goes out and acquires levian bell. If you ask me today, we're lazy and bells gonna end up, my gut feeling I don't have any sourcing on this. This is just my gut lady and bells going to Baltimore and Baltimore's all in. They're going to be a sixty five to sixty percent run team play. Great defense veteran coach Lamar Jackson. Ask him to throw eighteen to twenty two times. He can make those. Throw not a great thrower, but can make them. So I think Baltimore is gonna go out for lady and bell. And they just said today, here's our future inch Lamar Jackson. That's good for them. And then Denver's like we're gonna go defense veteran big on quarterback run the ball. Good for them. And that's where I think we are today. So I think I think Denver's better. I don't know if Baltimore's better, I know Baltimore created clarity in the locker room. It's Lamar Jackson's team. So Baltimore created that that makes teams better. Usually, here's what we are. Even if you're limited Detroit Pistons we play defense. Remember, the bad, boys? We know shoes wells everybody, we're not as artistic everybody. But we do what we do. Well, that's usually in sports a good thing to do. So Baltimore's lie here's organ do. We'll play defense and run the football even or quarterback runs. So I think it was good for both teams so crucial to designate. Yes college. You can do the flip flop thing. You can't pros for us to like, thankfully. We don't have to go into the season's talking about a quarterback controversy. Right. If you have more than one. Quarterback. You have no quarter. The other thing I like about this. I gotta be honest about this. Here's what I like about. This is that I'm a fan of football. I just don't like teams that don't have a guy at quarterback. So Baltimore said Lamar Jackson. I think Lamar's fascinating to watch. I've said this about Baker Mayfield Baker is not one of the top ten quarterbacks. He's easily one of the top five most interesting to watch. Because his first Nellie Baltimore now has a guy. And now Denver has a guy that I think they'll keep for years to three or four year. They got a guy football's better that way, you know, nothing's worse than when you have a guy like Ryan tannehill. And you know, Miami didn't truly believe in him. You know, they don't, you know, Denver doesn't truly believe in case keenum, you know, they know. So I like teams to have a guide. I really believe John Elway believes this morning, we go in we go in big games. We can go into Kansas City with a run game in a defense and a veteran code. We can beat moms. It be close. But we can you never felt that with case keenum. You don't feel like Denver really has a shot to get into a shootout. So that makes. Me. Happy for football. I think in general that's better we got clarity with the ravens. We got a big strong arm guy with Denver. It's good for the league is a good thing is a good thing. And that's what happens when all these young quarterbacks come from college. The problem compla- you move out guys. Joe flack about by the way used to be you gotta Joe flacco fifteen years. He never left now veteran quarterbacks are moving. It's fun. And it's a rare thing for a quarterback of Joe flacco 's cameo he hasn't been playing great to be on the market. All right. Let me shift to this. I don't know if you watched last night the Lakers allow the Atlanta Hawks hawks are nineteen games under five hundred. They almost scored seventy points on the Lakers in the first half. What wait a minute. I was reading the newspaper a couple days ago that win over Boston. It was going to save the season. Well, that's all the NBA media guys told me. Think proclaimed Rondo shot against the Celtics guy at changes every day like urge Jappie. Now, they got beat by the crappy hawks and blown up the Sixers folks, but the ball bombs down report not support media members. Once every Laker was mentioned as trade bait you poison the locker room, they're not going to recover, and Luke Walton is toast. That's what we said. That's what I believe. And now three games in post trade deadline. This is what you have the Lakers have eight days off. And you're going to see a big push now to get rid of Luke Walton? Lebron Luke Walton have no relationship. Magic Johnson didn't hire him. I don't think he's a great coach. I don't think he's terrible. I think is substitution patterns border on random at best inconsistent at worst bizarre in random. But I will just remind you football is the coaching sport. Basketball is the player sport is Brad Stevens a good coach. Yes, he's currently a fifth seed in the east is Gregg Popovich a good coach. Yeah. Seven seat is. Erik spoelstra. Good coach. Yes. He is ninth. Seed is Rick Carlisle good, coach coaches think he's brilliant. He's an eleventh seed, okay? This is a players league. You know, Dwane Casey one coach of the year in the NBA. Do you know where he picked up his award an applebees across the street because they fired him. They couldn't get the award in the building. He was across street having lunch because they kicked him out of the building that's doing Casey coach of the year. So if you're asking me. Who the most talented teams in the NBA? Are I was thinking about this this morning, if you said who are the what of the most talented racers in the NBA? I'd say Golden State number one. Let's not even argue about that. And then you can argue about stuff I'd say Houston second if Chris Paul's healthy and James harden and Clint Capelle, and Eric Gordon, I take Houston's the second best roster. Not as quite as good as last year. But number two, Oklahoma City. I've got Westbrook. I got the MVP Paul George. I got Stephen Adams. And I would give them a narrow narrow edge over Philadelphia because Jimmy Butler Simmons and Embiid, I'm not sure I don't know about the chemistry. I like the players. I put Philadelphia four Tobias Harris. That's a really good roster. I just don't think yet they're chemistry's quite as good as a Houston. I'd put Boston five Toronto with Markelle Saal. I may be under selling them at six and Milwaukee Middleton Yoenis I put him at seven cadets. The that's seven rosters. I don't have the Lakers. Eight. I think you can start arguing on the Lakers behalf from eight to about sixteen and I'm not so sure they're not closer to sixteen the nine or eight and LeBron twists his ankle there. There are sixteenth. So congrats on fire in Luke Walton? That's not the issue. Lebron does create this is not a criticism. It is a reality. If I if I yelled at my son for getting a D N math that is not a criticism that is a reality. If he gets it. Lebron does create an urgency in a stress and at times an unrealistic expectation on a franchise that you have to win now and people have to leave and draft picks have to go to win. Now. That's the stress that LeBron creates I'm not it's not a criticism. It's a reality. I've seen it multiple times. But I will just say this did Luke Walton hurt lebrons growing because they were the four seed before that did Luke Walton hurt Lonzo ball who got hurt again. Oh, he didn't. He didn't do those two. Did did he leak all the stories that? In the locker room. No, Luke, Walton didn't do that either. Okay. So never forget pre LeBron's injury. Lakers were the fourth seed in the west the chemistry was getting better there. Only two and a half games out of the playoffs. Now. But go ahead. Take a wrecking ball to blow up the coaching staff. Go for it. That's not the answer. Lebron creates an expectation that puts stress on a franchise now, he is probably the first second third best basketball player I've seen, but that's a reality with LeBron. And so let's blow out Luke Walton is not the problem. Let's trade a bunch of players and get AD. I'm not sure that's going to be great. I think it'd be good. I don't think it would be great. I've seen LeBron with Biggs before. So it looks like eight days off loss to Atlanta almost gave up seventy in the first half to a bad NBA team that I'm not even sure is trying to win. I think they're in the sign Williamson interest sweepstakes as well. But that's the world we live in. I never bought into that ridiculous notion that the win over the Celtics meant anything. I I told you I last Friday off I opened up the internet, and there are all these stories about that can play with anybody say the unbelievable proportions. We just wanted to feel good about the Lakers. Couple seconds long. First half of the. Range so much this winter people need sunshine. We just wanted to smile little bit. All right coming up next don't confuse a small opportunity. For a big problem Steelers. Antonio Brown is not a big problem. That's coming up next. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not an Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. This is Ron burgundy telling you to listen to my podcast. Here's a little something to wet your appetite right now, I'm a little terrified because I don't know what a podcast is. Let's take some calls. Caller, number one. You're on with Ron burgundy what's on your mind? No callers. No. Because people aren't listening in real time. Shek got it. If you are listening to this and have downloaded by mistake. Please turn it off. Now, turn it off. No, we have we live. So the will crews here. Okay. All right. Okay. So if you're Taurus, your horoscope is come on pull you together and Kelly. 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And I always said, I don't know. They're your kids. You had them at your responsibility to teaching moment people whenever there was a controversy in sports. My kids are watching these games. What what am I going to tell my kids? I don't know. I don't even know their names. They're your kids. Okay. It's a teaching moment don't confuse Antonio Brown. Wanting to be traded for a problem. It is not easy. This is a moment for an opportunity. First of all, Pittsburgh standards are really high the Cleveland Browns last year went seven eight and one and they're throwing a parade. The Steelers went nine six and one and they're pissed because the standards are much higher. Players. After five or six years. You got a ton out of Antonio Brown. Now at thirty one flippin for a pick opportunity you bought low six round sell. Hi, this is not a problem. Lebian bell getting nothing for him that I don't like that stings. But in Tonio Brown think what this way say it out loud. If I said to you. Hey, there's this NFL team that foulness player in the six round. They paint him nothing for like three years. Nothing. He ended up getting eleven thousand yards and seventy four touchdowns. Pay them nothing. If I had to pay him a little now, he's thirty one wide receivers post thirty generally start to fade. And we were able to then flip him and get a really good pick. Oh, but what do you do at receiver? Oh, we already got one. We do the receiver thing really well juju Smith Schuster. We do the receiver thing. Really? Well, folks, here's what I know. Life real estate sports, Wall Street Bilo, sell high winds everywhere you buy the property low fix it up sell it. High six round eleven thousand yards seventy four TD's sold all sorts of jerseys. And now you're gonna flip him but thirty one because you've got another receiver. You don't have to pay as much. That's a problem. That's an opportunity. All these wide receivers for the Steelers seem to leave Mike Wallace left Plaxico left. Emmanuel sanders. Left's Antonio homes left Martavis Bryant left they all leave and they all get replaced when it comes to the Chicago Bears in linebackers. They do it. Right. When it comes to the Denver Broncos running backs. They do it. Right. The Broncos have had ten different running backs run for thousand yards when it comes to the New England Patriots in offensive lineman. They just find him David Andrews, an all pro center. He didn't get drafted. Did you ever watch shack? Mason of college. They take other people's bad offensive lineman overrated guys moving to left tackle. And they're great. And when it comes to the Steelers and wide receiver. They do that position. Really? Well, like the Broncos do running back in the bears. Do linebacker in the patriots offense of maybe it's a coach. Maybe it's a scout. I don't know. But you know, Antonio Brown leaving is not a dilemma, it'd be a dilemma for Cleveland. It'd be a dilemma for Jacksonville. It's not a dilemma for Pittsburgh. It's an opportunity. It's an opportunity you gotta receiver. You got a quarterback. You gotta get online. You got an emerging linebacking core. And you're gonna flip him and get a really good pick, which you've proven you draft. Really really well last year once again, you appear to have had a really good draft don't confuse what you perceive as a massive roadblock to simply be parenting or football at opportunity Bill Polian, by the way in fifty minutes. Chris Bosh around the corner. Here's joy Taylor. The news. I heard on the news. This is the heard line news. All right. So last night number two Duke pulled off an incredible win against number sixteen. Louisville was the biggest comeback of coach K's career. They trailed by twenty three points with ten minutes, basically to go in the second half and rallied to win. Just seventy one sixty nine pros on that team basically sign Williams let the blue devils with twenty seven points and twelve rebounds in the wind cameras scored sixteen point two points after halftime so do one it's eight game in a row despite shooting a season low thirty seven percent from the field. Twenty two losses. Syracuse. I gotta tell ya Zion Williamson's fun to watch. He's the I don't remember a college basketball player. I had this much fun. Watching there've been some good ones. But zion. Williamson to me is probably the most fun. I've had watching college. I've watched Duke play ten times. I think he's the most exciting college basketball player. I have seen in a decade. I don't even remember the next guy that made me turn to a TV in college basketball. I don't Patrick Ewing comes to mind seriously. So he so dominating he I'm not saying he's LeBron. I'm just saying he threw reminds you of LeBron with his athleticism and his size and just watch this play him bringing it line to line. It's he just moves people. I think that's that's part of what's so exciting about him. It's just he's he's got all the little Carl Malone. A little Blake Griffin a little LeBron's James. I it's amazing to me. There was I heard somebody last week. I'm not going to name the person out of his gourd said, he's not. Really built for the NBA timeout. First of all is body is transformative. He's got a great first step. He has a beautiful touch around the rim as long as he can shoot. Seventy five percent free throws. He's at twenty five point game in the eventually in the NBA. I mean, he is he is a big guy. Our concerns about weight your weight, lower extremities knees and whatnot. When you are that size and the league has gone more about skill than athleticism and size, which I mean, we talk about all the time. You know, when you're talking about Russell Westbrook. And it's it it matters. Obviously what what your skill is. Because eventually athleticism is going to finish. But he's he's going to be the number one number two pick. And I mean, I I think the top three picks are are on the team right now. Cam reddish. No. I think I think yet mean duke's the best team in college basketball. I don't think it's terribly close. And the thing would do because you notice now joy they're playing well now because these guys all come in from a U basketball, and you jam in Calabar is dealt with it. And it takes you until February until they know each other's first names. So whenever I I I'm always very careful to watch Kentucky Duke, Kansas that have one unplaced. I'm always really careful why I don't watch them early start watching about early February. Because this is what do I watched Duke play two months ago? They weren't nearly this good now they've felt they felt strong the beginning of the season. Now, I feel like they came out. Well, nobody nobody really knows how to defend scien-. So everybody now coaches, look and say, okay, do this do this do that? But I think do I think Duke is Michigan and Duke or my picks to get to the national championship in Michigan's a coaching story. And dukes at town teams. So Joe flacco has been traded through the Broncos. The ravens prove that they were going to be fully committed to the Mark Jackson in the future. So the ravens have agreed in principle to trade. Joe flacco to the Broncos Ann's Schefter tweet this this morning that the new Broncos head coach Vic Vic Fangio did spend a season in Baltimore with Joe flacco is the ravens quarterback. So he knows what he'll be getting and former Bronco's executive kubiak was also flacco fanny mentioned how much he liked the soon to be Bronco's quarterback. So those were strong selling points for them. Now trae can't make made official until the new year league start right right here starts in March thirteen but this is this is done an in report in rapid for. It tweeted. Just now that the Broncos will shop quarterback case keenum who's guaranteed seven million in two thousand nineteen if he if they can't either a massive pay cut or a release case keenum to me is the best backup quarterback in the league. He said he'd be a top back. Yeah. I think there's guide like I said this before. Nick foles case keenum can win playoff games that Jacoby brusett. Like there's three or four guys now in the NFL that I think are are really high end backups, and that doesn't mean case keenum cannot win. You went thirteen and three with Minnesota. He's not a stiff I think flack goes better as an arm talents. But case keenum is absolutely worth paying the money to the eagles. Not terrible. They're going to need a backup quarterback and a strong one. I think I think Jacksonville could use to. Then there's a lot of places that are going to be calling for for case keenum because he he is a strong backup quarterback. And this is a good thing. I'm glad that the ravens are going all in on Lamar Jackson. It's the worst. When you go into a season of quarterback controversy all training camp. You're discussing who's going to win the job? Nobody has any confidence. In anyone in the lions has get formed just like clear, the air make them your guy and move forward. And and just put all your chips on the table. So finally, Luke Walton on the hot seat this season. And the Lakers won seventeen thirteen loss to the hawks last night only heightened the criticism for him. And now odds have been released on who will be the next head coach next season of okay with Jason Kidd as the early favorites. Jackson is on the list Frank Vogel. Kevin Maceio on them it. Oh, Luke Walton is still there. Phil Jackson and lavar ball watch. Yeah. That's that's that's. This Cleveland Browns winning the Super Bowl. I'm not. I'm not going. I feel like Thai Lou should be someone that's considered by the way. My sources tell me that Tilahun LeBron not as close as everybody thinks. Okay. Grace. I my sources tell me that had LeBron come back to Cleveland tie. Lou wouldn't have necessarily been there. Do you think it strange that Tyler who's not on that list? So when everybody defends LeBron said, he's not tough on coaches. I'm like it. Engage. Not the easiest guy coaches because Tyler do that was never as close as everybody proclaimed. That's why Tyler who's not on this list. What do you think of Jason Kidd? He's fine. I don't think Luke Walton, Jason Kidd. Why why is Luke Walton significantly worse than Jason Kidd? I think they're both fine. Blue. If they're moving on from Luke wall and to me based off of the injuries that they've had this season. And the fact that there were really no expectations the season if they're moving on from him. It's a personality and chemistry thing more than anything else. Because to me, they're they're even Tom thibodeau is supposed to be a great coach. I watched Minnesota. I don't see there at all tip. Dole is not an LA coat now joy with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by heard li- going to be a hall of Famer thirteen years eleven time all star best high school player in Texas than he was a great college player, then he was an all star dominant player in Toronto. Then he went to Miami and won a bunch of rings. Good, dude. Chris Bosh joining us in the her today. Great deceit crush who. Now picks up a basketball only with his kids. Listen, you dealt with those blood clot issues that are serious. And in the good news. Is you or had established yourself as a hall of flame lie? This wasn't like you're sick. Where you would have left dreams on the table. How did it all? How'd you reconcile all of it? You had basketball left. But dude you'd given the game a ton. And you high-school college pro rings? You did a lot looking back on it. Yeah. Did do a lot. And I'm very blessed to be able to have those opportunities and then deliver. But yeah, I mean it didn't make an easy decision. Still had to consult with my family. I had to be a front and honest about myself, just you know, remembering that is hard decision to make. And I I wanted to play more basketball as, you know, quite frankly as what I wanted to do. Yeah. I've given my life to it. And there were still things, you know, being selfish that I wanted to accomplish on the leak, you know. Yeah. But it should be noted it when you were nine years old if somebody would have said, you're going to be the best high school player in Texas. You can be a final four guy. You're going to be two rings if they had a before you didn't get today went. To the final four after I left. So they got better without me. People always joke about. But you had you had a hell of a career and your widely respected in the league. Let me ask you about this. And this is not a criticism of LeBron. But LeBron comes into a team. And everybody's got this thing that end Tonio Anthony Davis gonna come as home going to be good. And I keep saying this. Lebron has always been good plan was shooters. But I saw you. I saw Kevin love it is tougher with LeBron. He doesn't want you hanging around the rim because he wants clearly open. He wants it open. Right. So, hey, Chris go stand over there. Now. Good news is you're a great shooter. Hey, Kevin go stand over there. Anthony davis. Isn't you as a shooter? I don't I don't know. Chris if that's a home run is it. Well, I mean, it's a home run because Anthony Davis is Anthony Davis. He's pretty good. Yeah. And I tell people this all the time. He was the first player that I knew I couldn't guard him. I don't know if he knew that. So I said, okay. Let me let me get whatever. I cannot this leave before this guy figures it out. He's a great player. He's a phenomenal talent with talent. Like that. You figure it out. And that's kind of always been I guess my philosophy and moving in the things you can worry about it later. We, you know, Disney shooters does he not new shooters? Does he need to change his game as he gets older? I don't know. But he's pretty good. And he's pretty good. If they're on the team, no figure it out. Well, d- Wade in LeBron. If you look at their games were never a perfect fit. Yeah. They were almost LeBron was a bigger D. Wade which is attack the basket, right? They work to a large degree delayed. Probably plays bigger than any six four guy ever one hundred Braun can be a point guard at six nine and a half. So he can shrink if he wants to. So to your point talents talent could I could I offer this though that and this is the way it is. If I had a great singing voice, I'm the late Whitney. Houston. Yeah. You're my singing coach. There are times. I'm actually tougher to coach one hundred percent. Of course, the more tat. Lebron is so gifted the Swiss army knife does everything well that he is harder to Cote. He was hard for Eric. He's hard for Luke. He was hard for black that there's a stress that LeBron creates on the coaching staff. What do you do if you have a biblical talent? All I mean as a best. That's if you can answer that I think they'll give you a coaching job tomorrow. You know, that's just one of the things. I mean, my Jordan Kobe Bryant Shaquille O'Neal these were once in a generational talents. And what was the verdict on their coach ability throughout a career? You know, they're always going to be, you know. Rumblings that they're difficult as just you know, what it takes to be a great player. And being a great player. You have to push yourself. You've got to push people and to be quite Frank. Nobody likes to be pushed all the time. You know what I mean? So if you're not agreeing with something, and there's some sort attention is going to be tension. Sometimes you know, what I mean? That's just a part of things I've said before I think the Miami teams are the smartest teams in league history incredibly high functioning, you donnas, hassle them Batty. Wade you LeBron Ray Allen. It's the smartest team ever assembled. I don't think it's the most gifted you didn't have a ton of size the bench was inconsistent. Mario chalmers. Drove me crazy. But it's the highest functioning team surreally in my life. And I do believe that LeBron works better with veterans because he's talented people don't want to be mentors. They want you to figure it out. So he loved you guys. Is it fair to say that Los Angeles with some quirky one year deals and kids? Do it may not be a perfect DNA fit for him. Look is the first year, you know. Even me looking at it. I knew that they weren't going to be a super really good team. They have a chance to be good. But looking at the make up the guys have to develop they don't know that there's a whole other level to the NBA when you bring a superstar into L A out of all places. I mean, those going to be an atomic bomb that goes off, and they haven't been able to really keep up with it. You can't you know, they're pretty much lending their job on the fly. So with the young guys there's going to be tremendous swings and ups and downs. You just have to learn about being consistent. And that's what it is about the NBA and you have to deal with the spotlight. You know, you're in the limelight. Now, this is what happens in the limelight is kinda wack when you find out, but it all comes down to the basketball court at the end of the day. So they have to do their job does Lonzo and LeBron fit to you. They're both. They need the ball. Yeah. I mean, but, you know, Lonzo so unselfish, you know, he's. You can tell just getting on the court. He'll he's like the classic point guard where if you pass to him he just kicks it up up to court. I mean, you have to tell him to be a little bit more selfish. So I think he still has more surfaces of his game that he hasn't even thought of exposed yet when you played with LeBron it was four years you were a rock tour. You were you to in their prime. I mean, you you are the stones. Yeah. Is it emotionally daunting being on a LeBron team? What what is it is it different? I mean, you know, that's what I mean by that is different. It's the spotlight. And I think when did you first notice it in Miami the minute I signed. The day the day same day and in member the next day the decision happened. And so then it just really went in the next day. We had a lot you did that a nice parade. You know what? I mean. I'll tell people all the time. Like, we didn't people didn't like like we didn't plan that it wasn't like an I mean, it was awesome come on. They have smoke and pyrotechnics and everybody we it was twenty thousand people with no basketball game going on. It was like the play offs. It was crazy. I had a great time. Everybody had a great time. You know, everybody on outside looking in not so much. Join I Joyce spent time in Miami. I love Miami. And I can remember going to games there. And I've always felt sports is better with good stories. It was a fascinating story. In fact, if you remember the first couple years you guys were villains. Then I think by then I think kind of people joined in when you won and everybody saw the joy of LeBron. But he's like, let's kind of fun. But the first year you were villain. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of like the warriors twos. Like, you know, Katie goes, the you look like men, it looks fun K D this is to Steph like, oh that was a great pass is right on the number. Steph makes it they're just so unselfish moving the ball. Eventually when you see someone just out there expressing themselves, and and having fun and planet team sport you can't help. But but be a part of it, by the way, the Miami Heat are appropriately going to retire your jersey on March twenty six that's a home game against Atlanta. You know, we were. Talking about, you know, by is the aqua water, Pat Riley, D Wade, then all the sudden here comes Chris Bosh, Shane Batty. Lebron James, and it all came together. Tell me something about the NBA that fans listening. You know, I I say this all the time. Chris is that everybody wants to say, you guys make a bunch of money, and I say canoe imagine if tomorrow, my company traded me to the Bravo network, right? And I gotta move my family, right? Like, take my audience a little insight. I know everybody looks at NBA players as rich. But this league does wear you out. I watched LeBron sometimes, and I can sense through body language. He's been doing this Chris for sixteen years for sure. Do you still do you sense? Where is LeBron? Do you think? Now is it somewhat business? Is it the mogul stage? I mean, yeah, I mean, I think we've been in the mogul stays for a while. And those are thoughts that the modern athlete now is thinking about, you know, and he's definitely one of the pioneers of that, you know, after seeing Michael Jordan be a successful business person. And and my Magic Johnson amongst other NBA greats. You know, them moving on with their lives. You know, now, we're understanding the position that we're in and you have to do both at the same time you have to do that. And try to deliver on the core. Because if you don't deliver on the court the product is no good. I try you know, what I mean? That's just how it is. So it's it's it's a delicate balance that you have to figure out, but if you have opportunities to play in the NBA and use your platform for great things, then you know, by all means do it. I don't think it's all the way business, but businesses definitely way more into it. Like, you say Gaza could trade it like Tyler Johnson, great friend of mine. You know, it is the business. He's on the road. You know, they're already on the west coast trip. He. Gets traded. My wife asked me what does he do as well? He has he has forty eight hours to report to Phoenix. You know point client called Delta Airlines. It them get the sin my bags. Hopefully, they packed everything. And you know, I'll get the rest of my stuff in the summer as how it is. Yeah. You don't miss that part of it. No. I don't miss it. Man. I mean is is is road life. And that's one of the things that kinda helped me in my decision. My kids, you know, they is everything is cool now because you know, I'm able to work, but I come right back, you know, on on on those trips men, they just you know, especially being Miami. You're going up during the cold weather, and you know, it's the Arctic blast going on in his five below. You got aqua water. Yeah. You know what? I mean, you get out the pool, and then, you know, next thing, you know, you're freezing. So it's it's just it's a tough dynamic to handle when you're living on the Roadman. You had a great career. You you. You're you're a man with options you could get into broadcasting. You could go into the front office. You could do a lot of stuff. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to keep those things in mind as I Bill for the future. But you know, I've got some things comment. You know? I definitely want to be involved with basketball continue, you know, to do media stuff is fun this. This is fun, man. This I've worked at other places. This place has good. Yeah. I'm just telling you. I'm not gonna get into particular names, man. You know, they, you know, the LeBron is recruiting this. That's. Magic magic magic almost gun -tro- for tampering. I'm tampering right now. Of course, it's Tampere Tampere to we've trying to win a championship. We need players. It's do you wanna come come on when a championship? That's the only way things get done. Great senior, man. Good to seize. Well, Chris Bosh back in a second. The her be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific, Colin flu season, vixen X nasal spray. Couple of weeks on that puppy uses directed twelve hours. Do not eat it did that as a kid bad news, by the way, everybody's there's an old term in our business trapped in the moment. People freak out about stuff. And we overreact is what the media did when the Lakers beat the Celtics. And you know, it's sports sports create reactions to stuff, and I've said, I don't think I'm a hot take guy. I'm I'm usually a wet blanket guy. Not a hot take guy. I usually come out and say can we grow up? This is not a big deal when the Lakers beat the Celtics. I'm my reaction was oh, God grow up. It means nothing. They're going to get. Shelled by Philadelphia two nights. They're not a great team. They have one great player. So everybody now is jumping into the Cuyler Murray is going to go number one to Arizona, and they're going to trade Josh Rosen. I don't believe that's going to happen. The owner said no yesterday the cardinals came out and said, no, they they spent the number ten pick in the first round. I don't think the GM's going to acknowledge. I whipped on that. That's not the way it works. If they get a new GM he'd be much more likely to move off his pick. But a GM doesn't make a pack and in the next year say, yeah, my pick was no good. That's not the way the game works people that make picks general managers tend to be loyal to their picks. So what makes them look good? They're not going to do this. And the everything about Kyle Cuyler Murray is first of all generally short quarterbacks don't work. I know everybody watches Russell Wilson. But Seneca Wallace was small. He didn't work and Troy Smith was small, and he didn't work and Johnny Mandel was small and he didn't work in Pat white was small and he didn't work. Russell Wilson's Wilson. Outlined. You're a tiny and not even small tiny frame tiny guy that runs around. The thing is all these Oklahoma quarterbacks are amazing because Lincoln Riley is amazing. The last four quarterbacks that Lincoln Riley is had between East Carolina and Oklahoma. Dominique Davis amazing numbers. Shane carden. Baker Mayfield Cuyler Murray. They're all almost the same numbers. He makes all of them. Great Baker mayfield's the only one of those guys that to me is an elite thrower of the football. Cuyler Murray is a good throw the football. Baker mayfield's an elite thrower of the football. That's why you don't know where Shane Carden and Dominic Davis are so stop the Russell Wilson comparisons. Russell Wilson's a first ballot hall of Famer it's one of the greatest quarterback towns. I've never seen anything. Like Russell Wilson. Steve young's. The only thing I've ever seen in my life. Steve Young VIP, and he's a hall of Famer the only guy. Ever seen Russell Wilson. And I'm like, oh, he can run an throw equally. Well, Russell's it. I mean, Russell Wilson's made Tyler Lockett and Doug Baldwin like Pro Bowl level elite receivers they're good players. Great players when they team when Russell they're great players. He led the NFL and touchdown passes with the worst offensive line in the league two years ago. That's not Cuyler Murray, so small guys generally don't work Menzel didn't work Michael Vick for all the promise was never as good as we thought. He was going to be choice. Myth didn't work. Pat, white didn't work Seneca walls, didn't work. Well, what about Baker bakers a pocket elite thrower, which I told you before the draft. He wasn't my Cup of tea grabbing his junk nonsense, but he's an elite thrower kid throws. Great. In fact, he throws a better football in the pros that he did in college. I liked him in college. Those are better than the NFL. I don't think he's going to be a pro bowler. But I think he's an elite thrower the football. So Arezzo Ona's in a brutally tough division. You got McVeigh's. In the Rams. You got Garoppolo Kyle Shanahan. I got Pete Carolyn. Russell wilson. You know, what they need? They don't even Kyle Murray. They need draft picks. They need to trae the number one pick and get four picks for it. They don't need kind of Murray. Ask yourself. Do you think in ten years? Tyler Murray is going to be running around. Reckon this lead little five eight guy running really you really come on just. Arizona doesn't need that. What they need is a left tackle a new center. A right guard a pass. Well, it got a pass rusher. Chandler Jones, still right and you'll got past rusher. Slow down sometimes things sound fun. But they're not realistic. And that is not realistic. Bill polian. One of the smartest guys hall of fame. Level executive is now running the American alliance of football. I'm going to talk to him coming up next hour and why Michael Jordan is back on my good list. Michael Jordan is back on my good list. Our too coming up to her one more heard the herd. Streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like. Our zoo canal. What LA renting again, it's the heard wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening. We're live in Los Angeles on iheartradio today, Fox Sports radio. Siriusxm channel eighty three on the podcast later f s to today we got knocked on f s one on f s to obey back on f s one tomorrow. And then Friday, I'm just doing a radio show already own melody fund. Joy Taylor is joining me. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? One of the smartest guys. I I've ever worked with Bill Polian hall of fame level executive hall of Famer of former Colt. Buffalo Bill built a colts underpaid manning built the bills Jim Kelly. One of the smartest guys I've ever met in football dearly. Miss him wonderful guys co-founder of af American lines of football. And I've said before I'm not sure if the league's in a work, but I think one of the two or both will work. I my gut feeling is these new football leagues. And I feel strong about it. I would I would be an investor if I could did this years ago about UFC fifteen years ago. Could I invest if I had the money I would have it sold for four and a half billion. I told you seven eight years ago, if I could invest in the m l s I would have it was thirty five million then at one hundred and eighty five million now for an expansion fee. And I think I would invest in both these leagues there's there's no anxiety from the NFL NFL. I think wants both these leased soc- succeed. And I'll say this about these leagues bottom line. Here's why they're going to work because the NFL has been showing time and time again. When they go after other leagues, they go after baseball, they go after college basketball. You don't think the NFL would love to see a February March early April football league to get guys? Like me talking about the NBA less. Well, yeah, they move all their free agency. They're draft their combat the NFL's in a battle with other leagues. They love that baseball won't shrink their season. They love the baseball playoffs happened in October right in the middle of football. So the NFL once they're in a battling with the NBA for eyeballs and Twitter clicks, and they would love to see one of these football leagues work, plus neither one of them. I think have aspirations of replacing China thou-. Right. So it only complemented by the way, I thought this was interesting. So I believe I'm not into this whole Westbrook. James harden chasing, stats chasing, plaques chasing award. I'm not into it. The only thing that matters in the NBA is winning titles. I don't give a rip about stats. I'm not into Westbrook. Look, I think hardens better than Westbrook by a lot. But I'm not into him staying in blowout games to get records. Both Westbrook and harden are chasing Wilt Chamberlain records. And I'll get to that in a second. But it's interesting because m j was asked the other day about what's more impressive. What Westbrook's doing triple doubles or what hardens doing scoring thirty game. Which is hard from player standpoint. Six championships foul Ming's. Winning by the way, Westbrook has head teammates Carmelo Anthony acknowledged. Yeah. Yeah. He's chasing a. He's chasing rebounds. So we're kind of goosing rebound stats Carmelo admitted it and James harden. His team is admitting it by keeping him in blowouts to hit a meaningless three. Lebron James, by the way, had a triple double last night. Here was LeBron James thought on his amazing triple double last night. They lost the ball game. I don't care what I did individually. I can care less if I'm not winning ball games. That's what that's what I'm all about. So I thought I'd game a trash. Triple double throat the trash because LeBron's chasing, something bigger. And you see this all the time. You see it in Hollywood. You see it in tech. You see it in sport to see it in the NBA. There are two paths. You can take in Hollywood you can be the rock make money and be popular. That's disposable. Nobody's going to be talking about rampage. Skyscraper tooth fairy. Eight minutes after they're released, but it makes rock rich and popular I like rock. Everybody likes rock Leonardo DiCaprio would not star in the tooth fairy. He's in revenue he's in wolf Wall Street. He's in departed. He's in blood diamond we quote, those movies through the years later to have lasting influence, those are two different paths. The rocks going to get popular and make money Leonardo DiCaprio will be quoted matters not a disposable career. You see this Intech all the time. Apps apps apps. Make people rich they're mostly timewasters almost no app matters throw their timewasters, angry birds made somebody rich Uber FaceTime, Google maps change the world, which path do you want Wilt Chamberlain holds all those stat records more famous. Hundred points. Bill. Russell. His career matters more. Do you know what the NBA finals MVP award is called? It's not called the wilt award. It's called the Bill. Russell award didn't score. Like wilt didn't rebound like Wilton didn't have the assist and have all the records. Disposable or long lasting. Westbrook. And harden, it's not ironic are chasing Wiltz records. Not Russell's what do you want to be famous and popular or quoted remembered critically acclaimed, and I'm not a huge believer in critical acclaim, but in Hollywood movies, it matters Oscars or they do. So I I look at a lot of this stuff with harden in Westbrook, and you can choose either harden keep me in the game blowout loss. Win wanna get that record? Lebron James is chasing something greater than player of the month. Couldn't you argue though that we need both. None really. I mean, you don't wanna just unplug sometimes and watch tooth fairy. Never. Does need a light movie every once in a while while the light movies, a hangover's hysterically funny? I'm not saying I don't like comedies. There's never been a point in my life. I thought you know, what I want? I want to spend seventy bucks on popcorn tickets and watch tooth fairy revenue was the level of every movie I'd go to the movies more. The problem is half the movie stink. Now, I just stay home. And wait for vice to come out on you know, on at home, and I'll watch it my finger. We go to the movies a lot. But I mean, I think that you need balance and everything so you have the Russell westbrooks stats and then make it exciting during the regular season. And then you appreciate the guys like MJ and LeBron who win the championships in a different category. I just think everything can be the same and one one. It depends on what you're motivated. But I think in sports it's about winning. I agree with this you, and I have gone back and forth on this a lot. I prefer championships MJ. Even championships. It's not just you prefer team you prefer. We over me. Because sports is about a collaboration a community a unit you're building together a momentum. Right. I don't think basketball's better with Russell Westbrook shooting twenty eight times and shooting forty percent. I think the Westbrook now who's this tribute or still can't shoot Oklahoma city's better the games better. It's a better example. Like, I think Westbrook's game now is about winning and he still can't use his plus minus is the fourth best on his own team. Right. I think like even with will and Bill Russell when you use as examples when we look at Wilt Chamberlain. We talk about his career in a fun way. You know, he's still someone who contributed to the game. He still put up incredible numbers. You just put Bill different category winning category. Listen, I got I liked the rock. The raucous. James harden was I would watch him play like to your point. If harden was in town tonight. I go on. I just think that there needs. There's always a sports is entertainment. Right. There's always this'll be a balance and everything. But I don't really think that I think the NBA media tends to fall in love with the less relevant stuff and not pay attention to the more relevant stuff. There's too much fan. Boy. Yeah. We know. I don't think we do a show. I think our show is the wet blanket side, we try to balance things out. But of course, everyone gets excited and attracted to the new funding interesting thing, and that tends to be at the patriots in the warriors like winning gets boring. Because it's consistent. You know? I went yesterday. I got a physical physical yesterday. This is just a minute of wasted time. But I have to say about this. So I go to get a physical, and you know, it's just not that much fun. They're poking and prodding and stuff, and you know, whatever. And then I get my blood test at the end, and and so I just closed my fist, and I turn away. I don't mind giving blood give it three or four times a year. I don't wanna watch it. And I'm sitting there talking to lay blah, blah, blah. And then I turned over to the right is like six vials of blood over there. One of my vampire, what's happening to me. See guy you six vials. I'm exhausted today. I mean, not be able to do the third hour who gives orders that blood going? I don't I don't know. Where's all that blood going places in labs and make sure that you know, you're you're good comedy. How much do you need? I that's what I don't understand. Don't. They just use like one little draw draw on the input one drop in a slide. You literally no my levels of rival Flavin. You know, my I mean, you know, everything about me six vials a blind. It does seem excessive the amount of blood that they need for for one little seems like a lot. Yeah. Coming up on like scientists and doctors right now, I think we pick the right professional. Bill Polian super smart guy in the af. And and by the way, I'm gonna ask them about Antonio Brown. What do you do if a guy's an unbelievable monster talent, but he is thirty one this year. And there is some baggage Bill Polian around the corner, be sure to catch live additions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. It's the Ron burgundy podcast. It's the Ron burgundy podcast. Guess what? I got up podcast, and you don't guess what? I got up podcast, and you don't Ron burgundy. New podcast. Join me Ron burgundy on the Ron burgundy podcast driven by safe auto, the only car insurance company I'll ever use it takes three minutes. And let's face it. That's about all the time any of us should spend with a car insurance company. Great to have you back in one of the smartest guys I've ever worked with in my life. He would talk. I would listen he was a six time NFL executive of the year Colt panther Bill GM. I mean, just built everywhere he went he just built up. Football rosters won the Super Bowl, obviously with the colts. And he's one of the co founders of the American lions football, the af which I watched this past weekend on CBS. And I said on the air, I think one or both of these new leagues are gonna work. I think it's a new time. I think there's a lot of different reasons from legalize sports gambling to these are not adversarial relationships with the NFL, I think there's a lot of football town, America. And I, and I frankly think you're going to have big a marketing brands CBS is going to be behind this league at a big company. And again, I don't think the NFL they're not there to spring football league. There's there's three three sports networks. We're all looking for content, folks. We're all dying. The only thing that works on television anymore. Live is live sports and some politics. So I think this stuff's gonna work. Do they both work? I don't know. But af got a year head start and Bill Polian. His joining me first of all Bill. I love talking to you. I love that you now are able to come on my show. What what was the Genesis the beginning when you said? Yourself. Listen, I'm gonna give this a run. I think this can work. What were the what were the reasons behind your move into this? Well, as you know, Colin. I've been talking about this for some time because I'm hearing from my friends in the NFL we need a developmental league. We needed developmental league. We need a place develop coaches and players and scouts and referees. And so on we need a place to train minorities. So they can get on the offensive side of the ball and become offensive coordinators and quarterback coaches and and get on a career path that leads to a head coaching job. So that's been out there for a long long time. And when I met with Charlie ever sold, and he laid the plan out for me, you know, he said to me, you think this can work. I said, yes, it can none of it's going to be perfect right out of the box. But the idea is sound the approaches sound and the key to the approach was that a we're not in competition with the NFL. In fact, we're trying to augment the NFL, and we're. Trying to reach football fans who really want to watch football and don't wanna go dark after the Super Bowl. And Secondly, we're going to run a league that is all football, the slogan, we've used it's a a mantra really that we're living by is real football for real football fans by real football people. We've got all NFL people doing this. We've got people with tons and tons of experience, we've got coaches who have NFL experience extensive NFL experience. And and so we're putting the game on the field that looks and feels and sounds like the NFL minus, of course, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and people like that. So Bill would the NFL because I think this league will be elevated more quickly if the quarterback play solid if I one of the games, I watched I'm like, oh, these guys are slinging it around their spinning around this is real football. So obviously good quarterback. Plays more fun to watch. It looks like real football. Is there a possibility at some point? You could go to the NFL and say listen you gotta third quarterback. Once you let us play in our league, you can watch him. It's like being on an L. It's it's it's certainly as good as your scout teams. What about the idea of using occasional third quarterbacks on NFL teams? Would they consider that? Do you think? Well, we've talked about it in general. They can't consider it because it's tied up with the union and the CBA because you can't send players down as you can in major league baseball in D leak is that an objective. Of course. It is. Absolutely. Yeah. And and there are many players, by the way who did. Not sign futures contracts at the end of the year on the practice squad and chose to come and play with us number one because it pays a little bit better. And number two because they'll be finished with us. But by the time, it's time to go back to OTA's but back to the quarterback issue. Absolutely. We'd love to have that. And that's a goal, but it's not achievable. Just yet. Meanwhile, we're developing our own guys who are throwing around pretty sure. No, no question. You know? It's funny about you know, we were talking yesterday. I said as a parent Bill my life in my my my parenting the same values in principles today that one hundred years ago love your kid be their forum. Don't worry about being cool. Do your homework. I always tell my kids when you get home from school go to bed early get up early little exercise little travel, blah, blah, blah, all the basic principles. But over time that gets more complicated with social media all these technologies. Well, the same thing in football. Is that football? It was still Tom Brady and Jared Goff who couldn't outrun a barstool in the Super Bowl. And I'm seeing all Mitch Trubisky running around and Lamar can run around and Cuyler Murray's five eight and a half. And part of me Bill is like time out time out. What am I supposed to make Keiler Murray now in your league home run, but the NFL these are billion dollar franchises? What do I make? What is the standard five eight and a half five nine? Is there a line? You would not be comfortable if you're at an NFL team with quarterback size. Sure. Yeah. Anytime you're below six feet. It's it's worrisome anytime, you're below nine and three quarters enhanced size. It's worrisome. So that person has to be an exception. So you sit there and you say to yourself, okay? Is this guy and exception? Does he have the arm strength? Does he have the athletic ability? Does he have the strength the girth in his body to withstand the kinds of blows? He's gonna take in the NFL all of that adds up to is a drew Brees. You know is he the guy in Seattle? That's the question that everyone ask because they're the exceptions Bill Parcells. I'm sure told you, and and I know told me if you if you start building with exceptions you'll end up with a team full of exceptions, then he's exactly right. But but there are exceptions. And as the game goes fifty three and a third yards wide, which is brand new. This is something that's new in in this century, really. And and almost since two thousand ten you. There's more room for smaller people. That's well, put the dimensions of change. So the dimensions of quarterbacks on the need. There has changed. One more NFL question Antonio Brown. Great talent Bill. You're one of the people that taught me that there you had to look at age you had to look at hand size. You had to look at the length of tackles arms compared to a guard, everything matters. And I look at the Pittsburgh Steelers. And people think Antonio Brown's a problem, and I see it as an opportunity Bill six round player ends up giving them eleven thousand yards. He's now thirty one flip him for a pick low sell high got a ton out of him. Steelers drafted position very well. Bill. They have for twenty years, they got juju Smith Schuster. I don't see it as a massive problem with Antonio Brown. You graft them in the six get a ton of production. He's thirty one move him d you as a GM, do you worry about the blowback that you lose his star? How will it work in the locker room? He how do you give me both sides the GM losing? Star and perhaps acquiring one. That's hard to deal with. Well, I'll give you three three scenarios one is keep him and deal with them. And and work with him because he is such a great player, and he probably has since he's absolutely elite. You know few more good seasons in them. That's number one. Number two. I if you deal, you dealing and number three, what is the blowback? Well, the blowback is in the media and the fans, but if you make a wise choice, then you'll you'll be okay in the long run in the short run, you'll you'll have indigestion and the headaches as the GM, but in the long run it'll prove to be successful. If you've made the right choice. Did you ever struggle with moving a player if if did you ever worry about blowback every your three stops? No, not really not your personality. It's not my personality. That's exactly right. I wanna go back. I wanna go back to the af. So there's gonna be another league in the year. The XFL is that competition is it friendly. How do you view that? Because I think one of these leagues is gonna work. I think it's possible both work, frankly, I think the appetites fairly insatiable in America football. But how are you going to look because you're not competing with the NFL? But do you see the XFL as one of your lives? One of you died. How do you view a new league? Well, number one, we're in business. The XFL is is talking, you know. You know, there's no football players on the field. There are no football players signed. So there's nothing that we can look at and say, this is the X, or why was he more importantly the thing? We have to do is get the best product we can on the field week to week in the stadium on television. And let the chips fall where they may the best thing we can do to help our brand is to grow it as quickly and as as aesthetically pleasing Lee as we can that's that's the answer in the end don't worry about as Tony gender used to say do what we do. Don't worry about anybody else. Finally, Bill Polian. Joining us former cult panther Bill GM, the af the American lions football. What do you make of what you watched in that Super Bowl? What do you make of this dynasty? It doesn't even make sense right Bill. It's just doesn't work that way. You don't have twenty years of greatness. What do you make? If I if I if nobody ever if a novice came up and said Bill Polian. Explain what we're seeing with the patriots. How do you explain it? Well, there's two parts to it. The first is getting there, and that you know, you have to be a little bit lucky. You have to play in a division that's down which they do. You know, you have to be in a situation where the the ball bounces your way, which it has in the last who championship games, that's one thing. Now when you get there if I picked one coach, and I've been around coach Shula and coach Levy and coach Walsh. And you know, all of the great ones if I had to pick one coach. Who had two weeks to prepare? It ain't close. It's Bill Belichick by a wide margin. So when you get there forget about it. Is he has two weeks to prepare? It's over man. You better you better have four weeks to prepare. There is nobody better at dissecting and opponent's weaknesses negating, their their straights. Disguising his weaknesses and managing a game. In a way that puts you at a disadvantage than Bill Belichick no-one no-one in the game today and probably less than a handful in history. So that's your answer. It's really really is amazing. It is fascinating. You know? He had a unique childhood experiences. Dad was on the forefront of scouting. So he was around football and his mom's spoke seven languages. So there's an academic intensity to bills life. Sean McVay got some of that as well. If you look at his childhood, he does, of course. So I I think sometimes it's like the Malcolm glad well ten thousand hour rule. You know, Wayne Gretzky was just better early and more committed early and. Sometimes it's a break from the parenting to the environment. But I I agree with you. I Bella check. I'm I'm fascinated by his intellect by how he sees the world. And you know, the underrated part of that stuff Bill. He's had the same running back. Coach Dante, scar Nekia mcdaniels there in a more mobile society. Where all these coaches are moving around. He's got about four guys he can lean on. And I think that's a big factor. And all this that is a huge factor. That is a huge factor. That's exactly right. He can lose any number of guys on defense the guys on offense. But you mentioned they're hard to replace Bill Polian. Af congrats good luck. I think it's gonna work and we'll talk soon. Okay, buddy. Thank you Bill Polian. Just a bunch of stuff there on a football stuff. Joy Tanner with the news. Turn on the news. This is the heard line news. So as we just mentioned the patriots beat the Rams and suppo fifty three to give Tom Brady his sixth ring. I lost count. How many snakes? Any NFL player? The only reason that bothers me is because they they're now tied with the Steelers incredibly disappointing season as we know, but that hasn't stopped him from looking towards the future. Newsday. The patriots posted a picture of Brady from his Super Bowl parade where he puts up the six finger. Represent six titles, and then he commented on the photo with two emojis that hold up seven fingers. This is the coolest sports picture. I'm not joking. If that was a if that was that's art Tom Brady holding up six fingers. That is our seriously did Picasso do that Matisse. I mean that is the thing about it is I really I I not doubting Tom Brady I pick the Rams to win the Super Bowl. But that's just more because I just wanted them to win the Super Bowl I stopped downing doubting Tom Brady after that falcons comeback and also just it's no life. It's kind of life to just sit there and root against the patriarch. I've done it for many years, it's exhausting. It's really pointless when it's over the lettuce. No. And then we can we can go about they'd be they'd become apple they occasionally have a bad product than an hour later stocks back once in a while they take away the headphone, Jack. And you're like, why wouldn't you? Why would you why would you do that? But there will be right back on track. All right. So the Lakers lost to the hawks won seventeen thirteen tonight. And we'll answer the also break under five hundred they are currently tenth place in the west and two and a half games behind the kings for the eighth and final playoff spot after the loss. Lebron was asked if he's worried about the Lakers missing the playoffs. Here was his response to you. That's when you worry about it. No. That was a little glib for me. That was a little non believable for me. This is. This. Well, this'll be the latest into the season the Broncos fallen below five hundred since the Cavs finished fifth thirty five and forty seven in his rookie year. Wow. Where did you dig that one up from they haven't been well, that's that's been everywhere. Like, this is basically the worst seeing that he's played with since you know, as far as wins. Go. Look at this video. This is bad for our radio audience on the solve the hawks are wearing blue uniforms. The courts got red all over it and has Mattiello. That is a that is honestly like a LSD dry head trip on there. Baskets too. There's only twenty five games left in the season. And I it's not looking real great for them in the Western Conference. This he missed the playoffs. His first two seasons in the league. Any miss the Eastern Conference finals, no eight in two thousand ten this is the Western Conference standings right now. I gotta say I did not think going into this year that there were any real expectations on the bron- as far as him making the finals or even making the Western Conference finals. But but I will say if they missed the playoffs that's bad. Or if they get wiped in the first round of the playoffs. It's not good. Here's the thing. He's played his entire career in the Eastern Conference. So the narrative is going to be whether we like it or not there's going to be some people saying, well, he didn't have all that success as soon as he came to the west what happens not going to be a lot of excuses in the situation. So even though there were a lot of expectations. That's not going to be a good look for him. So while he saying he's not gonna worry about it until it happens. I'm pretty sure that is on the back burner. Finally, the cardinals and new head coach cliff Kingsbury have the first pick in the two thousand nine hundred NFL drafts and Kyla Murray decided to to pursue a career in the NFL has been a lot of speculation that Kingsbury we want to draft Murray and move on from Josh Rosen who is last year's first round pick for the cardinals however on Tuesday Kingsbury clarified that he is committed to their second year quarterback our feelings towards Josh heaven, waned or change anything. I get we with first pick. And so there's going to be a million scenarios over the next three months. They're going to come out. But no Josh's guy person. Well, first of all he's implementing an offense. Would you wanna do it again with marina like you? It's hard enough to be a rookie head coach. How'd you like to get the job for for three and a half months? You worry about one offense. And then the team goes out and draft a quarterback put another offense. It's hard enough to be a rookie coach in that division. Right. And also, I just I don't think that Kyla Murray is a number one overall draft pick. I mean, obviously, they could make some trades and move down. And and maybe feel like he he'll still be there. But you need a lot of pieces. If you're the cardinals and Josh Rosen to me is not something to panic about. They had the twenty according to the NFL twenty eighth ranks offense and the circuit thirty-second rang offer and support the pro football this offensive line office of line was terrorist old unathletic. It's it is now become first or second worst still line in the league, right? Like they had a terrible offensive line. That's very hard for a rookie quarterback to navigate so get some pieces. Get some skill pieces around and Bill offense around him and giving opportunity everyone thought that Jared Goff. Was a bus. He just played in the Super Bowl. Good point. Maybe just give it maybe maybe just like one more year, by the way Jarod Goff defensive head coach. Then he got an offensive guy looked way better than that funny. How it work? Yes. It is my our like, not panic. You know, I just thought of something crazy. Why isn't Earl would Earl take the Laker job? That ask me that. Maybe I don't know what Earls going to do. Whatever Earl decides is best for his gonna take the UCLA. Joe? I have no answers for anything. I'm not trying to put you on the spot. I just came up right now. Will you put you put the list out with all the people replace in Luke earlier, and healed Osborne on there? I didn't see I didn't see Earl Watson's name on there. Hey, this is journalism on this show. This we probe for the right answers. Well, this is not the way sources live on the set with you. If Earl gets a job, and we don't break the story in not going to be a good day. If he gets UCLA, you didn't give him a certain. You didn't give him a certain talking to. No kidding gets the job at somebody else breaks it. That'd be no good joy with the news. Well, that's the news. Thanks for stopping by the heard line, by the way, we're going to give it Kris Haines. It's totally connected to all this stuff. It's Lakers have eight days off, my gut feeling is Luke Walton is gonna get wacked. I feel bad for him. Because I don't think he's the issue. But I think he's gonna get wacked. So Chris is gonna give us a real big time time appropriate answer to that. Be sure to catch live editions. The heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific. Pelicans game changing bike indoor cycling bike brings the energy allied classes to your home up to fourteen live right today. Learn more at peleton bike at one peleton dot com or visit your local showroom. It's one of my guys senior NBA insider for Yahoo sports covered. Lebron the Cavs at the Cleveland Plain Dealer former warrior reporter, he's all locked in. He's Chris Hanes. And he is joining us today. Chris all right now, we get to the all star break, right? We got eight days off for the Lakers. That would be a perfect. Time if so inclined to move off Luke Walton, and there's a lot of rumors. Do you think Luke Walton is coaching the Lakers in eight days? Chris. He years. I think he is. I think if you look at what all is trust bottle the last couple of weeks. I I don't think that you can place the blame primarily on Luke ball. There's no secret about it that what the trays, you know, the trade rumors that were going on with the Lakers roller peleton's how everything's just became so public. You just knew that it was going to take time for that locker room to heal fat. And so, you know, the the you add the fact in the Brian James out with different amount of thought. And I just don't think we're all those factors. I just don't think you can place the blame solely on Luke as a right now. So I do think that he will be given the chance to coach pass this break. You know, there's an interesting scenario building Jason Tatum said he's open or there's a report that he's open to becoming the face of the pelicans. Now, I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think they're going to let him go. Danny Ainge wouldn't wouldn't allow it? But Anthony Davis also said he didn't want to be a Celtic. And then Kyrie Irving hasn't committed to the franchise. What's going on in Boston? This felt like the. The standard of how to rebuild a franchise. Kyrie's hurt. Again. A rumor that Tatum would leave Anthony Davis. I was told last week by somebody I trust. Anthony Davis will not be a Celtics will not stay there. What's going on? What is happening to this perfect rebuild a year ago that it it seems wobbly today or if you look at that roster look at what they -ccomplish last year that was sexually of squat at the equivalent of a college team when it wasn't really a true star every kind of bought in brass Stephen, you know, he's one, you know, one of the best call us coaches. We had you know, during his tenure, and it he had a roster quip to go in there and orchestrate his plan of attack. Now, you add in Taibbi Irving who was stupid starred as league adding Gordon Hayward who was a star. And now you're trying to blend personnel. And that's where I think Brassey was has had the most problems this year is that we know exit. Does he's up there with anybody in the league. But now he has to manage personalities, and that's the that's the biggest biggest obstacle that coaches half the face, whenever they're you know, coaches some of the higher s lot players in this league is how to manage personality. Yeah. He hasn't done well in that regard. And that's where he has to overcome, you know, sooner or later, it's going to get is going to get to a point where you're going to have to challenge. Some of these guys you may have to get in the verbal confrontation with some of these guys. I don't think he's reached the point. We feels comfortable enough to do that. But when you're dealing with guys like that on that roster right now on top of the trade rumors being circulated to how fierce it would. That's just something that Brad has hasn't had to face NBA. And I think he's going through a learning curve, by the way, they're eight and two without. Kyrie Irving, they have a better winning percentage without kyri was hurt. Again. They average five more points a game without him. They shoot better from the field without him. They average three and a half more assists without him. He's a great offensive player. But I think to your point, you know, Stevens has run the Butler and the young Celtic offense. And when you get a star, you know, it's funny. Chris a great rebounder. Or a great defender always make everybody better. But a great scorer doesn't make every team better. I mean, Kevin Durant is a better player than Steph curry, but the warriors are much better without Kevin Durant than they are Steph. I just wonder if Kyrie Irving even fits with Brad Stevens style. And I think that's something. I think we still have to monitor. I I don't wanna go out there right now and say, you know, he doesn't make them better. But look, obviously there there's familiarity without him on the floor. They they get right back to doing what they were doing last year. I will say this at the end of a game. The last two minutes of the game. You do want somebody who could just go get a bucket. Yeah. And Kyle Kyrie's the best at that. But definitely right now, they're they're used to plan without kyri, and it's not such a such a big loss. But I I don't know as a right now if they're a better overall team we'll see him sideline. I I still think we still got, you know, some more time points figure that out. I think Paul George is my MVP Janas probably to close race with harden. Who would you give it to today? Man. I'm I'm I'm feeling Paul George. Why go I like I like what he's doing? Like, I was there in Vegas man when he had that catastrophic of answering. And you know, that that was tough to see him bounce back and bounce back in a way that he's playing at an all time great level right now about I've never I wouldn't I wouldn't have visited this at all especially playing along. Russell westbrook. I wouldn't have visited him having this type of surgery. So he's right there. I I don't know if he's number one, I probably got. I'm probably still got James probably number one. I think I moved poetry number two right now that they honest, but I I don't have. I don't have a beef at all you got number one. Hey, but both power to he's playing at all level that he's definitely in in the race. Well, he's also a two way player. Klay Thompson Colli Leonard, Paul George. There's a handful of guys that give it to you two ways by you know, about a minute left. I watched body language LeBron last night, not great seemed almost disengaged that times. If I said to you, I seven eight years in the league it was one hundred percent basketball. Then by the end of Miami. It was eighty percent basketball twenty percent business. What do you think it is in L A today? What's the balance? I still think I still think the majority is basketball collar, I think they came in with the expectations of obviously that this was not gonna be a year that they compete for championship. Now. What did they think that this is going to be a season that they participate might not make the playoffs? No, no this. That's that wasn't even a thought. So what they're going through right now, the bilingual's you could see everybody can see it, man. This is this is it's gonna take some time. You know there. There's some healing. And he's done in that locker. Yeah. But, you know, look, I ll LeBron's competitor. I if if he goes if this if this like the squat, and we we, you know, we we know as a rocket. There's just not a quick to go far. And if they don't make the playoffs, man. I I just particular I predict that they will be some some awfully loud noise over lakeland over the Austin like they have to be some changes made there. There will be some more immense pressure placed upon that franchise. So you know, LeBron's focus on basketball, but you know, not making the playoffs. You know, we think we've seen a lot of my LeBron James team as far as pressure and expectations. Boy, they don't make the playoffs that we stand back yet. Senior NBA insider Yahoo sports Chris. Hanes good talking to you based call. This Valentine's Day, dips the chocolate and roses gift of comfort. Tommy, John, Tommy, John dot com code her. Twenty percent off your first order. Tommy, John dot com, code H, E R D that would be crazy. Lebron doesn't make the playoffs to put that graphic up. I just want to see it for our TV. And I'll say it on radio of where the Lakers are right now. Sacramento is really a fascinating team. I don't know if they have the legs at the end. But Darren FOX Marvin Bagley interesting interesting team play really fun to watch. They play a lot of people are paying attention to them. They play really fast. I do think LeBron will figure out a way to get into the postseason. That is my guest. Final hour is coming out. We've been loaded today. Chris Bosh Bill Polian. Chris Haines what a show so far our three in wet and dreary, Los Angeles. Please don't move here. It's third. One more heard the herd. Streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live. Or on demand. Whenever you like. This is the heard our three wherever you may be. And however, you may be listening. We're live in Los Angeles. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio also on Sirius XM channel eighty three. Yeah. It's so funny. Bryce Harper that baseball thing Bryce Harper's. Like, hey, I'm not gonna take any short-term deals. Baseball's. The craziest fort whenever you can't get signed. It's collusion, Colin Kaepernick collusion, Bryce Harper. All these baseball guys collusion. No, nobody wants to sign a baseball player to attend your contract. That's not collusion. Is that baseball figured out? These are horrible contracts for the team in your into four years. And you're like, oh my God. This is an awful deal slightly different situation. Well, yeah. But even camper Nick is. Yeah. I can't get signed yet. That's because the world's media for a backup quarterback would invalid up the team. Like, that's not what anybody wants from a back like Tim tebow, by the way, I told somebody this the other day, Tim tebow won seven straight games. NFL? Nobody wanted to touch him. Was it gets Tim couldn't play in the NFL? Like, Johnny Manziel complaied. Nobody wants the backup to be a superstar like nobody want like you should be drew Stanton. I can't even recognize you at a mall you put a cap on. It can't recognize you all these baseball guys. It's collusion. You don't wanna pay too. Oh, you don't wanna pay money. When is baseball been shy about paying baseball players money? Baseball's overpaid a million guys they rarely get a deal. No baseball finally said, we don't wanna pay eight nine ten year contract. Justin, Burland or the other day was on the internet. He's like I mean just start with ten years. This is ridiculous. And I'm thinking your wife's a model. Would you sign a model to attend your deal which assigned a coach to a tenured what business which sign anybody do attend your deal? Like, the answer is always if I mean. Yeah. Outside of the raiders who would do that. But it's always the answer. If you won't sign me. It's there's a read it wasn't collusion against him. Tibo? He was too popular and polarizing to be on your roster as a backup. He don't want. The meet them know, here's what we know about the NFL. They don't like noise. They don't like noise. Tibo literally wanna play off game could not get work. Nobody would touch him. Johnny Manziel can still play. Nobody's interested people want the backup to be like, you know. The kid. I think the kid that really good backup is the kid. Nick foles doesn't talk Nick foles when the Super Bowl. He didn't talk. Jacoby. Reset indianapolis. Big strong can win you games. I've never heard of quoted I've never heard him quoted people don't even like they're starting quarterback. Jimmy Garoppolo to be hanging out at a restaurant in Hollywood with an adult film star. Like, it doesn't even matter that was dinner like teams freak out about all that stuff. These baseball guys. Yeah. It's like, it's not collusion. Robinson connote tenure contract and hour and a half in the Mariners like this was not good twins like a huge deal with that our Johm hour an hour and a half intimate. This is we can't afford any players, Joey Votto. Josh Hamilton, Albert pools name one that worked named one. Then it's not collusion. Like the now. Maybe camp Rennick, it'll be proven to be collusion. Maybe it is. Maybe there's a string of emails that will get the NFL. I don't know. I don't have that insight. But I just I hear it constantly. It's collusion. It's Tim Tibo. Couldn't get a job Manziel. Can't Bryce Harper. Bryce Harper said today, I'm not signing the deal. Yeah. I mean, Bryce Harper. He was offered a massive deal. And he said, no, which I thought was it was like three hundred million dollars. You know, he's complaining and he's an I love Bryce Harper. But the answer is always I got something against me. If you really look at the reasons why people who are talented don't sign. There's usually a reason they're asking for too much is often it they're unrealistic. They're getting a little older Odell Beckham, by the way was on the market was there collusion against Odell Beckham in the NFL. He was on the market. There was no takers was that collusion. No. He proposed to a kicking net. He gets hurt a lot. He's really expensive. But nobody's quite sure. He's a great teammate. That's why Beckham had no takers. I just saw story today that Jay Glazer thinks ode L Beckham's gonna get traded. Antonio Brown right now. Great player. Why? Why is he what was the league against end Tonio, bro? No. There's a reason Antonio Brown is talented. But man, he is he is a lot of work. And he's getting me thirty one years old again, I'm not trying to bunch them all together. But whenever I hear so many can't get a job everybody races to Twitter and social media and the world's against me. And it's this, and it's that, and it's this. There's almost always a reason you can't get work. I've been in this business for thirty years joy price. Fifteen I don't wanna age anybody. But fifteen years in this business is that fair as more like ten could if I said to you. If I said, you names super talented people that have struggled getting great jobs. I can think of five or six that I've worked with my career that I'm like, oh, they're really talented. But they're a pain in the you know, what? And there are different pains. Some are inappropriate. Some are a nutty found that super towns if people more often than not our pains, not only rare to find someone who is super talented who is also functional and reliable in profession. That's why I'm so fun to work with. So you get the joy of that. But the point is this is not an anti capper knicker anti Bryce Harper thing. There is generally always a reason it did not help capture Knicks caused that his girlfriend took a shot at an NFL owner and said something that was wildly explosive. And he wore socks and that turn off people, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and Bryce Harper, dude. Look at baseball right now, defensive shifts. So baseball has got this thing going on right now where there you're allowed to move defensive players a softball league. All over the field. What happened to Bryce Harper's average That's why nobody wants to sign power hitters like the guy's hitting Bryce Harper finish last year hitting like two thirty to thirty eight almost spend three hundred million on thirty eight you know, so and now everybody in baseball, it's home runner. It's walked so he's not going to be a base runner gonna strike out a lot. He's not a great defensive player defensive shifts have knocked down his average my point is you can complain about everything in complain about this quarterback that quarterback this guy that guy that wide receiver this baseball player. Manny machado. Manny Machado is a great one. Manny Machado plays one hundred six sixty games a year hundred fifty eight he gives you thirty seven rips in one hundred nine RBI every year guy plays guy plays every game. But he's not signed is that collusion. No. It's because you kind of a pain in the you know, what he's not a real locker room guy. He didn't like to run him. He'll say, I'm not a real hustle guy. That's not great. Right. So a lot of people are turned off. They watched the dodgers in the World Series. They see him not run out of ball short. And everybody's like now, I think Manny Machado, I'd pay whatever it cost for Manny Machado hundred and fifty five games a year, forty Knox hundred nine RBI. But there's a reason he's not signed. It's not maple leaf. I mean, there's a reason behind I worked in this business again a long time. There are a lot of talented people that do not get the jobs and my dad used to say this men manage money better than themselves. That's why prison and Wall Street or full of men we manage money, really. Well, we don't manage ourselves. Very well. And I mean, Bryce Harper got offered three hundred million and turn it down. That's on Bryce Harper. Okay. That is pigs. Get fat hogs get slaughtered. That's on Bryce Harper. And I love him Vegas kid met him met him, dad. Great kid. Great story. Rooting for hope. He's a Padre. That'd be it. May hope he's a dodger. Hope I can go watch him. But there's always a reason for stuff. I good luck. You know there. I don't know the history of collusion cases. Maybe there's a bunch of them. But I've heard that word you so many times in my life for for for sports non-sport. And I don't remember the person claiming it winning a lot of the case. Well, I don't I have no doubt just knowing how human beings communicate that GM's in front offices don't have relationships and don't look out for each other and don't necessarily consider that to be co luge in. I mean, we all work in different businesses, and we know people at different places, and you know, if you wanna find something out of what's going on over here house contracts working over there. Like there's in from the the world is run by UN information. Right. So if it has become a thing where ten year contracts in major league baseball, which I think for the most part, everyone agrees are not ideal for teams because, you know, people age things happen, and those contracts are guaranteed in our massive. So maybe that is logical. But I I don't I don't necessarily doubt that there aren't communications in every sport. Just like there are in every business that don't somehow move and change. The course how this work. There's. No question, by the way, most people in our business and in sports have the same. Six agents information is traded on the phone constantly, very valuable commodity. It doesn't mean it's an anthem chorus or in unison, but you know, in our business, I can name you can throw out names, and I can go bad guy. Good guy team player jerk. You could just tell me a name, and I'll tell you because everybody's agents the same agent, and it's the same in those. So those kind of when you say the word collusion is that collusion or just is it like everybody getting in a room together? And there's a mallet like we have decided this is what it's going to be. No, I don't think it's that cut and dry. But I do think that there are conversations that happened amongst people of power. Yeah. That creates and steer the course of other people's careers and lives, and and leaves. Yeah. Well, the NFL's a funny league about that. Because the NFL they just don't like noise. So Seattle Pete Carroll told you I love knows. And he's like, yeah. I don't love it so much and he traded it all out of town and they made the playoffs. Pittsburgh Steelers this year noisiest team. Elite pro bowlers everywhere the Lamar Jackson knocked him out of the playoffs. We don't love noise. The noise thing NFL doesn't like noise. They don't like it. They don't. They don't want Kim Tibo won six straight games and playoff games. You can win. It wasn't my quarterback. You could win with Tim tebow. And by the way, pack your stadium. Nobody was interested. Nobody was interested. So. I baseball. I just got off on a tangent. That's called a tangent right there. I just I whenever I hear. I guess it's it's my blowback as somebody who reads the business section sometimes before the sports section. I just hear words thrown out all the it's collusion. And then like boy that's hard to prove that that is hard to prove for baseball guys quarterbacks at that's what is like. Not be wrong. But they also may why he write that and your deals are not a good idea. I mean ask you this. Don't the dodgers wanna beat the cubs. Right. Right. Right. Don't don't the Yankees want to beat the Red Sox? So the bottom line is if there's a player that can win games, I'm going to buy him. But good Lord. We have we've seen the dodger. We've seen the Yankees. Go by Red Sox and the Red Sox wanna buy Yankees, you'll do business all the time. If you think people look at Bryce Harper's contract and say three hundred million dollars holy with with defensive shifts in baseball. But you know, if the Padres went out and spent that you can just kiss still carry four pitchers into the season who will they afford. There's a reason for everything there's a reason for everything I gotta get we got by seller hold. I have my staff in an amazing job today. They are you know, how like some people will say I'm committed to think of anybody watching right now are listening in your family. Let's say a family, I want you to go sixth. Cousin? You know? Some people say I am committed. And you're like, well, how many hours a week do you work forty eight? And you're like I worked fifty eight and I'm guilty. What is commitment because I just read a story where rob Pelinka the Lakers compared Tom Brady and LeBron and I'm like, I'm gonna give you some information is LeBron committed as you think he is. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app cap. You know, people say necessity is the mother of invention. But that's not always true. Sometimes the mother of invention has advertising. Yeah. Or pure accident. How about ego maniacal delusion? Absolutely. Or just a desperate longing. To be cool. I'm Robert lamb, and I'm Joe McCormick. We're the host of the science podcasts stuff to blow your mind. And now we're branching off into the exploration of invention. 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You're gonna have to go through Kansas City. Now. That's what's going to happen in the AFC. You got New England Foxborough Kansas City and Denver you want a big strong guy a running game in Denver and Vic Fangio. So that that that's the move. I think I think Denver's better are they wildly better markedly. They're better. I think they're better team next year with flacco the Fangio and Dale was figure out ways they've had ten different guys rougher yards. Many of those on Mike Shanahan some not. So I think. There are better. And I think Baltimore said, you know, we're gonna go with the Lamar Jackson thing. I think they're going to go out and get lazy in bell. And really go all in on being a power running team, which I don't think it's a bad idea at all Flavian bell. I think would be first of all great running back great receiver as a running back. Lamar Jackson dump off Lamar Jackson kind of interesting to me. So I think that I think it all works out. I think both teams one I was telling joy this earlier. Nothing's worse than what an NFL franchise. It has a quarterback that don't believe in like Jacksonville. Nobody in that room believes in Blake Bortles Cincinnati there over Andy Dalton like Denver. I think today is really happy Denver's like you know, what we can win big here. When you don't feel like you have the guy feel like you have to win in spite of him. Yeah. That's no fun. Like he's going to do what he does. And you have to be better in every other area. That's why Jacksonville made it as far as they did when their defense was excelling. But eventually you're gonna come back to your level because he's not the guy. So I thought this was interesting rob Pelinka was quoted this week. He does look like, rob. Blow for a radio audience. You'll have to trust me. He said, you know, my hope is that we're on the outside in the play offs with LeBron but we get to the play offs. And with a skill guys. We've added much like Tom Brady one of the all-time breaks. Lebron kind of takes the helm for his team and make some noise any kind of compared the two they they have some similarities there mogul nece. But you know, here's the thing when LeBron came to Los Angeles. There are a lot of people that said business mover basketball move, and I talked to people in inside of LeBron's camp. And they were like, listen, it's basketball. If the basketball is no good, the business doesn't work. I agree with maverick Carter told me, and of course, it's basketball. But I'm just going to list the projects LeBron is involved in cincy arrived in Los Angeles. And Rimmer Tom Brady did a documentary one. And while he was doing it. He was mostly at home with his family Tom Brady, it's winning football family. And then when he goes to football he gets back to his family, and it was a family. He's doing football at home. So you guys have the list of projects. It's unbelievable. The list of projects since arriving in Los Angeles million dollar miles Space Jam to best shot warriors of liberty city. He's often the executive producer of these hoops brotherly love, I m moral BJ Madame CJ. Walker lean on me the shop. I've seen that shut up and dribble. What's my name? Mohammed Ali Friday, the thirteenth house party more than athlete. Student athlete top boy. White, dave. And that's the last one. Maybe that was so bad. They just quit. Yeah. Friday thirteenth by way. He's executive producer on some. He's doing something for some of these rightly at least reading scripts mine takeaways. I'm looking at right now, this is just in the last eight months. Tom Brady makes it very easy for his organization. He doesn't demand coaches. He doesn't demand teammates. He is. Absolutely. Even to a pay cut willing to commit to winning. Lebron's burdened by a lot of stuff. He wants MAC salary. He dabbled in politics. He's doing multiple projects. He's creating a global brand Brady doesn't care about it. The NBA is a more global sport than football. Football's a domestic sport Tom Brady doesn't give a rip about Duesseldorf. He doesn't care. Lebron James does care about outside our borders abroad. And now, this has made LeBron very powerful and very rich and very global. And hill resonate forever. But don't tell me he always makes it easy to win. Lebron wants max money. Tom doesn't. Lebron wants though, right coach Tom doesn't argue. Lebron wants his guys Brady takes what you give him and wins. Like, I don't think LeBron makes it as easy as Tom. Now. I said this yesterday in a sport basketball where dynasties are commonplace. I believe LeBron's gonna play for twenty years in the NBA's at fifteen and he's going to have three titles. I think he's gonna win none or one in Los Angeles. In a sport that really isn't known for twenty year. Dynasties Brady's on his going for a seventh Super Bowl win win. It's harder to win and football. You get hurt. Careers end players careers. Don't last long Ray Allen could have played Ray Allen John Stockton could've played longer. And they they're a decade and half. Football's hard dynasties are short their compact Joe Montana. You get hurt. You can't keep players around you salary caps. Coaches basketball's built. So LeBron is easily the best player in the last ten years in the league. And you'll you'll be able to make an argument for fifteen years. He was the greatest player when it's all said and done I think he's gonna end up with three titles because some people think they're committed Brady is fully absolutely from personnel to money to commitment to distractions one hundred percent committed LeBron says he's committed, but there's a lot of things where he makes it tough. He wants his coat his players his respect his money. And so that's why. And maybe it's just a. Culture basketball, which is more about the individual NFL tends to be more about the team. But I don't think the bron- makes it always really easy. Like if if LeBron wanted to make it easy with a billion dollar Nike contract. He would say pay me eight million a year. What do I care? I got a six hundred million dollar net worth. What do I give a rip? I sold beats made thirty million that makes up I got a billion dollars. If you're what is committed. I guess is what I'm asking. Kirk cousins is not committed to winning Kirk cousins is committed to building his Bank account because Kirk cousins is not worth twenty eight million. And he knows it. Kirk cousins is not committed to winning. He's committed to getting rich. Kirk cousins is smart Kirk cousins reads, the paper, Kirk cousins know that if you make twenty eight million dollars with his level of competency, you're not winning Super Bowls. So how committed are you? These are salary cap leagues. I don't care about baseball guy. Baseball guy, can take whatever the owner will pay whatever, you know, Real Madrid. Whatever that guy will pay owns that team, El Pais. It's not the way it works in the NBA. It's not the way it works in the NFL. It's not the way it works in hockey. So if you're going to talk about commitment commitment is also am I willing is a guy were seven hundred million Brady is LeBron is are you committed truly committed to getting rid of the vanity and the ego and. L this respect and all that. Are you really totally committed because a lot of people say they're committed. I work forty eight hours a week. That's not committed. That's CEO's in America. I just read this about a month ago. Wake up on average at four thirty in the morning. You complain about six forty five. You're not committed to running a fortune five hundred company. That's the commitment. It takes it. You can't be there for every birthday every piano recital. Every little league game four thirty in the morning up. Go come on four forty five out of the house get to work. So it's not the lebrons. Not great. But I think Brady makes it a lot easier on his team, less stress. Less demands coach he doesn't demand assistance even the quarterback coach us hire. Who you hire coordinator hire? Who you hire we all know? Ballot Tech's great. But he never he never demands are running back coach quarterback coach oh line didn't demand that stuff stays out of that stuff. Joy in the news. No. This is the headline news last night. Number two do pulled off an incredible win against sixteen Louisville. They trailed by twenty points with nine minutes and fifty four seconds to go in second half rally real rallied to a seventy one sixty nine wins. I n Williamson led the blue devils point seven points and twelve rebounds cameras had sixteen of his twenty two points after halftime, much bigger. Yes. He is. He is impressive. Here is I n- Williamson after the historic comeback. What were some of the things that coach K was talking to you about in the huddles to keep you believing? You said he don't coach losers. Coach winters. You say go out there play hard. He can coach to away. Just keep it. Simple. RJ barrett. I'll thirteen points, seven rebounds and four sist-. I think those three are going to end up being the first three picks in the NBA drafts. They are I in the ACC in for his size joy. He's really quick quick. I mean, no, I would say doesn't have much of a jumper, and that will matter, but he looked at his touch and his size and his quickness only need that in the NBA for sure I think he's he's he's impressive to watch. And he's he's fun. As highlights are good. I think that the things that he needs to work on it translate is the NBA or all skill related, which you know, if you you can develop and work on but look at that Bill look at that. He's got a boy, I'll tell you what that's not just big body. He's got control of that big body. He's getting a number one. I I still like our though really you take him number one. No one's gonna pass Zion Williams go. No one's going to do it. But I think I do think you ever gets very happy with her decision. Here's the thing. If you're an owner, you take science. Yes, he's going to be a merchandise. I mean, there's I don't remember a college player. I in fact, if we did a trip I have no idea the last time, I'm like oh college player. I gotta watch Duke tonight. I'm not even watching Duke for Duke. I'm watching Duke for something. Well, I think there's your answer right there. He's gotten down to one name. I wouldn't say Zion. And everyone knows that your docking. Wiggins was good at Kansas at in rush to my TV to watch Andrew Wiggins. He was good. I'm trying to think Anthony Davis was good at Kentucky. Didn't rush to my TV? Carmelo Anthony was really good it Syracuse. But again, and I live I don't think I rushed to my TV. This kid is must see television. He is. So the ravens are trading. Joe flacco to the Broncos that was we were just discussing a few minutes ago. That means some are Jackson is the future. So they have agreed in principle to trade him trades can be made official until the new year which starts March eighteenth, obviously. But there's also now a report from Ian Rapoport that the Broncos will shot case keenum is guaranteed seven million in two thousand nineteen and if they can't it's either a massive pay cut or failed us release, and he would be a tough backup in the league. And actually if you look over the last three seasons, Joe flacco in case keenum and forty one starts flakowitz fifty touchdowns. The case keenum's forty nine thousand four hundred options the case Kino's, thirty three. Their completion rate is a percentage exactly same six three point eight percents and their quarterback rating is about the same as well. And I think the same guy the only differences Joe flacco has a Super Bowl in his show that he can play at an elite level in case keenum as not. Yeah. And and I I don't think I think case keenum actually throws a little bit better ball, but I will say this. Denver November December January you're going to have to go through Kansas City, December January Foxborough and Pittsburgh case keenum's a small quarterback who had his greatest success inside a dome. Kate. Flacco is built to he played in crappy. Baltimore weather, his division was on the road. And since he on the road in Cleveland on their own Pittsburgh. Since he just got traded to a new team for a younger guy who has completely different style. And he does so Bruno's that's kind of how Jack Joe flacco is when he has he he plays better. So we'll see what happens there. So finally Antonio Brown has requested a new sealers after nine seasons with the team yesterday. He tweeted goodbye to Pittsburgh fans and expressed his desire for a fresh start today. He followed up with another tweets saying don't be tolerated be celebrated. Oh boy. He's doubling down on that. That's pretty good line though, that it is he's leaving a little bread time. So what how? Hey, what's going on there? According to reports the Steelers may have some problems getting a first round pick in return for him a second round pick possible. Well, he's arguably the number one receiver in the league second round pick last in this league for like seven years, by the way, got seventy four touchdowns out and got a lot out of him. I I don't I don't think the Steelers are better without in Tonio Brown, and they're not better without Levy unbale. Now, levian bell hurt nothing for him. I don't I get that. They have to move on from him. Like, this relationship is not Mendel. But to me the issue is not in Tonio Brown, and the issue is not Levy on bowel. And then she was not Ben Rothlisberger blaming other people. The issue is the Steelers have lost their culture. So yes in Tony around may move on and let him Bellamy move on. And meta talking to has been Roxburgh about the at the end of the day. You still have the same problem that you had before? And he still the same problem now, whether they move on to fix the culture there is just going to bring in a new guy and cycles just on repeat itself. Isn't it? Funny though like. If I want to tell you twenty years ago, the Pittsburgh Steelers would be the circus of the NFL be like, no notes, the Rooney family. This is all business. I mean, seriously, it you would not believe it in thirty years ago. If you'd have said his team, Pittsburgh, hiccup crazy players Facebook. You'll be like well, first of all you just set thirty years ago. What's facebook? But you would have never guessed. They would be the crazy town of the leak the underachiever. They were always the overachiever. That's what I'm saying. This is you move on from Antonio Brown traffic. That's fine. Levy on thousand going to be there anymore, but you still left with same issue that you have right now, which is what is the culture in Pittsburgh. That's neat. That needs to be fixing some of its banned some of its Tomlin in a lot of blame to go around. It's not all it's not all on Antonio Brown. Although he's doing his thing joy with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by heard lie, by the way that was historic. Days ago that Jason Tatum of the Celtic sounds opened becoming the face of the pelicans. Which is crazy. It doesn't make any sense. It would be a terrible move. Literally. He can look at Anthony Davis. Who's great and saying get me the hell outta here. You have an example in life look at it. Don't do it. So I don't think Danny Ainge would let him go. I think it's crazy for Jason Tatum. I understand wanting to be the man, but Boston's gonna pay him. And I absolutely believe Boston's gonna pay a max, and Jason Tatum is going to be you know, one or one a I think he's a great player had a couple of great moves recently on what was that Sixers game. We were watching highlights today. Here's why I think Jason Tatum. Becomes the man, and they pay him because I think there is a continuing trend with the Celtics that you can no longer deny. They're not better with Kyrie Irving last night. The Celtics beat the Sixers again. No, Kyrie Irving. If you look at the numbers this year with them without Kyrie Irving, the numbers don't lie. They score more. They shoot better. They pass more. And they win more percentage wise without Kyrie Irving. I'm not denying. He's not a great player with two minutes to go Nina shot. I'm not denying that. But in basketball, remember. A great rebound. Dennis Rodman made every team. He was on better. You gotta grab rebounds. He was the world's best a great defense. If player Joe Dumars on every team makes every team. He's on better. A great score. Carmelo Anthony does not make every team better. We have history of that scoring in the NBA today is great. If it's a byproduct of you passing their passing ball movement and spacing kyri is not a distributor kyri world is flat. Little flaky kyri gets hurt a lot Kyrie's as below average defender. I the numbers don't lie. Here you go up and down with Kyrie Irving last year. They were better they got Eastern Conference finals without him this year, they're better without him. Again. All great rebounder. And a great defender. Make every team better. Always not true with great scores. You know, the great example is Kevin Durant. Kevin durant? Doesn't play warriors. Don't miss a beat. Steph doesn't play warriors. Not the same team. Katie is a better player. Right. Katie's and more dominant player. Kobe Bryant could stop the ball at the end of his career, Carmelo Anthony. Kevin durant? Westbrook. Westbrook's great offensive productive dynamic score doesn't necessarily make everybody better. In fact, there are no winning streak because Westbrook shooting and scoring less. So this idea I don't buy that. Jason Tatum is gonna leave. This was reporter Tim McMahon telling Brian Windhorst this week that Jason Tatum would be okay. Leaving Boston on wind horse podcasts. It's gossip, but the gossip is Jason Tatum wouldn't mind if he's shipped to New Orleans and has a chance to be the face of a franchise somewhere because he's he's not going to get that opportunity in Boston at least not in the immediate future. I I don't nothing against this. Reporter they're gonna maxim. They're going to max him today. If as a Celtic fan if I told you kyri walked at the end of the season. I told you Jason Tatum walks you'd freak out. I'd freak if I was a Celtic fan. You told me Jason Tatum. Twelve months walks. I'm freaking out you tell me kyri walks. Got max deal available. I think there is now proof data tends to beautiful it doesn't necessarily make this coach this team this roster better. He's a great offensive player. But sometimes sent around watching all these great offensive players you stand around ball movement stops. He's not a ball movement guy. Coming up next the most impressive streak in the NBA. And nobody's talking about it. That's coming up in best for last be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific. So it's pouring. I'm told again, I really don't feel comfortable with us complaining about the weather here in California. It's just it's really outrageous could be down to fifty eight degrees today. Get your free credit score card today. Even if you're not a discover customer include your FICO credit score. Learn more discover dot com slash credit scorecard. Limitations apply. It's weird people. Like, I know most people don't care that are listening. It's the wettest coldest winter in LA history. It rains non stop here. The weather is terrible here. I just don't. I'm I try to be mindful not complain except for it to other people that are here in California. I don't wanna complain constantly mother. And it's like twenty four right, right? And there's slush, and it's gray outside and live colony got eight inches of snow and then some sleet on top, right? Yeah. Yesterday. Yeah. So so the rain so what you're saying is when I complain that water dripped on me from palm tree at my house. It doesn't resume and I did not mention the weather. I I may have said like it's rained. She was like. My sister lives on the coast of Washington. Yeah. Isn't this? No, one has it's not even rain. It's just there's waves to hitting you all day. All right here, we go, John Goulet. It's time to put me on the spot for another addition of pop quiz quiz hotshot. Get ready to play weeds. Okay collin. I question with Joe flacco the Broncos are now a contenders in the AFC west be contenders for the Super Bowl or see somehow even less interesting than they were last. Now, the correct answer is a I think they're contenders in the AFC west. I agree with joy. I don't think there's a huge gap. Case keenum flacco. But there is a hey outdoors big guy running game. He's he's a ten and five playoff quarterback. He went toe to toe with Brady in Brady's prime more than once. So now, I do I think they're going to be Kansas City next year. I do not, but they do feel a little more formidable. No bet they were a little more formidable cold weather quarterback flacco than they did with case keenum second question Heisman winner Cuyler Murray should be. Hey, the number one pick in the draft be a first round pick or see five inches taller. I think he's a first round pick. I think in today's game. He's a NFL quarterback. Again. I said I'm not making Baker Mayfield my quarterback. I don't want the off field nonsense. He's not ideal. I think the kid at Ohio State. I like a lot Dwayne Haskins six three and a half to thirty. I liked the Wayne Haskins a lot by the way, Dwayne Haskins is not athletic can't run. He's the pocket, dude. This kid can run around. But I'll just say again these small quarterbacks Seneca Wallison, Pat, white Johnny Manziel. I know they're fun. And I do think there's times they can work, but I can't build around at number one. Pick means a number one pick means this is the. Twelve year starter in the NFL. That's what that means. That doesn't mean you can play if you told me today. Yeah. Kinda Murray thirteen years from now me running around. I don't believe that Dwayne Haskins. I believe that Bush number three the most impressive MBA streak is a Russell Westbrook's. Triple doubles be James Harden's, thirty point games or see both guys continuing to have zero shot at a title. I actually think see the funny answer. I do think. The most compelling story is that these are January February firework shows, and I do not think they work for ball central guards. I don't I've seen Westbrook. Look tired at the end of years. A little bronze gone to his, you know, seven eight straight finals, I've never seen the brought on a final and thought boy he looks gassed I thought hardened two years ago looked exhausted in the playoffs. Then he got Chris Paul passed a little more appear to have more energy last year. And then I think Russell Westbrook. Last two years has looked tired. Nobody's just reporting the story, which seems obvious. These January February explosions by guards hurt you at the end of the season. You are not quite equipped to go into a fourth playoff series a third playoffs. Here's question. Number four. The NBA all star game MVP will be a James harden. Be Paul George or see anyone who actually manages to watch the whole game. James harden? The all star game is made for James heart. First of all they don't play a ton of defense. In the regular season. The all star game is basically a skills competition with officials. So James harden, a win going away. And it'll be fun at price gore. Fifty. All right. Your final question. The coach of the Lakers should be. Hey, Luke, Walton be Mark Jackson C available to pick up. Lebron's dry-cleaning after five PM to come on. I think an Mark Jackson would be fine. But I like Mark Jackson. I think Luke Walton is not the problem. I don't think Luke Walton. I think he has a randomness to a substitution pattern. And I don't think he's, you know, I don't think he's Eric Spoelstra, but he's a young guy. So is he young coach? But I I don't think he injured LeBron's growing. I don't think he got Lonzo ball hurt. And I don't think he had the rumors in the newspapers that created a poisonous locker room. So I don't think this is on the Walton I do eight days is a long time in a big city with a lot of media and a coach. They lost two in Atlanta t last night that's nineteen hundred five hundred and they gave up almost seventy points in the first half. And Rondo is hurt in Kuzin has been out a little bit to the NFL. Like, Luke Walton got breaks here. What team exactly can lose for starters. And LeBron for a month, right? I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't some changes the week needs to make her or any of that. Like, there's plenty of blame to go around everyone. But. Yeah. Who's who's working with that now? And we're by the way, joy, as you know, they were fourth in the west before the injuries there were fourth, and we were all kind of going it. Kind of interesting to go in forty eight games. Laverne is always the typically better after the all star break. He's gonna come out. They're going to rally together they're gonna make it to the playoffs. I think so too. It's all going to be fine. It's going to be Golden State, Houston, Oklahoma City. And then, you know, my gut feeling is kind of a Utah thing will renaissance in Utah Bill coach their way up to about fourth. And then you're gonna have a bunch of Sacramento's in there. Oh, I didn't leave Denver either. My bad Denver will be third or fourth. I'm going to be easy. No, no, no. But by the way, they're going to have to play the warriors of the rockets in the first round, and they're going to lose Nick, right? Brian scallop rainy tomorrow. Kaby one. I'm Dr ause. I love getting the talk with you on my show every single day when the cameras stopped rolling. The conversation is over quite decided to start a podcast in order to dive deeper into the issues, and ideas that I love sharing with you. It's health, unfiltered, my wife, Lisa will be joining me and together, we're taking wellness to the next level and having a little fun along the way. Listen subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Flacco was a former Super Bowl winning quarterback in the Broncos of struggled to find a dependable quarterback since Peyton Manning retired. We'll bone is this a clear upgrade over case keenum for John Elway who you love and the Broncos necessarily not apparently this is not the Joe flacco from his Super Bowl victory. In fact, you'll flacco has done nothing since the Super Bowl victory. He has been a second tier barely starting at times quarterback Sissy one that Super Bowl. And so I understand John Elway was not all that happy with case keenum. John Elway continues to just bring in quarterback. Well, he had you north west and Trevor siemian D had Paxton Lynch. She had Brock Osweiler Lynch now out the league. Things in love briefly with everybody. But then it doesn't work. Well, I mean, so, you know, why this must be tough. John Elway to me as you know, before before Tom Brady one these last two or three times John Elway's, the guy that I always thought was the greatest quarterback ever. And it's got to be difficult for him to settle on a guy that he can live with. But I don't think flacco guide to you. Well, I want to love flacco because he is a great playoff quarterback. Absolutely great. He's ten and five in the playoffs. He has twenty five touchdown passes intended to sections that's doing a half to one. But as you're saying in the last three years as a starter, he's twenty one and twenty which ain't much. He's got fifty touchdowns and thirty four interceptions, which is one and a half. He's like ally. Man. I don't think the drop off level is quite here. All right. But I don't think you can look at him and be inspired at the moment. Can't say it's an upgrade. Well, I'm going to say it's a small upgrade because I think at their best he's a little bit better than case keenum. But I don't think he's great anymore league. Now where you take a cheaper quarterback. So you can go out and flees teams like the raiders and pay. He's not half rusher. Joe flacco Whitley, we I'm talking about Baltimore. Now. A Baltimore they decided to keep what a second year quarterback. Now, we'll hear not paying anywhere near the amount of money. They would pay Joe because he was six in one overs last seven games for the playoffs because he runs which flacco couldn't do and they're they're saying to themselves. Hey, he's got an arm. Maybe we can develop into a quarterback and they're getting rid of a guy who took him to a Super Bowl. But I think I think flacco could be good at them could be could be could not real confident. No certain upgrade a little upgrade. It's now. No, you know, what it's not like going to first class from coach. It's like going to a better coach seat, which you would know nothing about neither would, you know, stop this football hostile nonsense. Let's get to one of the epic outcomes in college basketball history. The all powerful all knowing Duke blue devils were down twenty three points with nine minutes to play when either they staged one of the great comebacks of all time or Louisville choke did away a program with pedigree. Almost never does do stormed back to take the league with fourteen seconds to play and the cardinals left the floor a stunned. Loser of a game. They could not lose Sony. What did you see more of an other worldly comeback or an inexplicable choke? We'll certainly Louisville chilled. Certainly when you're up that many points with nine thirteen or something like that to go. You can't lose the game. They had nine turnovers in that last period of time. So we'll just suspense with that. Because that's not. The story of the game. The story of the game is actually Duke winning the story of the game is Duke and therefore freshman scoring sixty eight of seventy one points and all thirty five in the thirty five to ten burst five at was the birds that's one the game. So so that's in. Because those guys looked like you can't beat a fair five if only got four but those guys look like a team they get better each game. And they look like a final team don't they they're gonna be Pat on the back. Now, they're to be applauded a standing ovation because you can't even finish something like this off unless there's greatness in the winning team, and we savage that there's a bus one the great show jobs. I've ever seen. Tony. Okay. I feel bad for them. You know, what it's like watching? It was like watching John van dessert. And you know, that was terrible. Okay. Spent rolled up his pants blowing. Phil furthering the water. It could be get the ball inbounds Gaza fallen on the floor is if they had grease on their shoes. Do didn't they had unforced? Errors, all of his I felt bad. And I'll tell you more important than me feeling bad, my shifts you by the way to me is one of the gracious winners of all time in any sport. And we've been around him a lot when he's one big games. Just said I felt bad for them. I feel for them. Tony. It's an epic effort. I do good would Louisville. My god. Let's show you probably have to both doing because it's impossible to lose that. Because here's what I'm going to take away from this week for Jinnah went on the road and beat North Carolina after losing it home and Duke went on a road. And we didn't think this was no Duke went on the road and beat Louisville in a game that they could not possibly win. That's right. And that establishes for me what those two teams as big time teams Virginia until the latest on the road last night in their last game before the all-star break, and they lost to a very very bad Atlanta team the Lakers now twenty eight and twenty nine the latest LeBron James team has been under five hundred since his rookie season fifteen years ago, if the playoffs started today, the Lakers would be on the golf course will on how the Lakers feel after this law. They should feel relieved. You don't have to play tonight or tomorrow night or the next few nights because they stunk the joint out and despite the bronze. Numbers triple double. There were there were brilliant splashes of play 'cause he's LeBron James. He needs a break. They need a break. They need to win country. Right. Ron that's the reports Jedi. Jedi dead bottling the hit yourself away. And this is what they look like a Saudi airlines jet away. They were dreadful. I'm not I'm not a believer in reading by language. I hate normally when the happens, but this was a game twenty which you just saw guys including the Bronx just sort of walking back on they won't even running back and Atlanta was beating them down the floor. It was interesting. The hawks had on some uniforms. You Ricky I saw them Saint Louis hawks. They take back the. What Pettit Bob Pettit for like that? Anyway, the Lakers stunk it out they need a break, and they need to come back excited and ready to play when they come back. I don't think they're coming back with Luke Walton. I don't think he's the coach most are break. I think he will be sacrificed in the case of LeBron James. I can't even imagine how he's feeling he's been to eight strays exhaust line earned out. And I don't know I four hundred win fifty just by him being there. Let me point out a couple of players who are not there anymore who pretty players in the league. Now, you might not have thought they would be okay ngelo. Russell is really deploy. And they had to get rid of him. They had random I didn't think I like getting rid of Julius for them. But I mean, I would like both of the if I had the Lakers right now. I would like both of those people playing for me. I I mean, I don't you look at them, and they appear to be sort of lost. And I think Anthony Davis trade, I think I think that was rushing state. Because they thought that they would get him. I think the lack of that trait has heard both know that the lows New Orleans and the lakes only I think the Lakers have personnel enough assets on the court to make the playoffs and competitive in the play all they gotta be to Tony they gonna make like this. You know, the phrase nobody using more we used to use all men down in the Malia the Lakers looked like that last night. Let's see what they looked like when they come back. You got to be a whole lot better than this. It's only the reason I missed the chunk of dukes come back because I was watching a much higher level of basketball between the Celtics and Sixers and Philly Joel Embiid Jimmy Butler, and that on Sambol play dead, even with Al Horford, Gordon Hayward, and that unsolvable, but Boston even without Kyrie Irving continued its ownership of Philly, the sees of now one ten of the last twelve in this match up and tell them looking right past and B's postgame shot at the rest. Do he and the Sixers have a Celtics problem. Let's go over the numbers. The Celtics always. Beat the seventy Sixers with Kyrie Irving or without Cari, Irving, they're five and a with them. They're five and two without him ten and twelve as you mentioned. That's the problem. Joel Embiid yells at the refs and storms out of the post game press conference, which indicates volatility, and perhaps a little bit of immaturity. Al Horford owns him when they play he owns him a little bit. So when you look at those teams, and I'm not saying that in a playoff series. Sixers win. I'm not saying he couldn't Alaska what I'm saying. You hocutt them right now. Well, yeah. Yeah. Boston beat them. I think it was four games to one in a playoff series last year without Kyrie Irving now. So and so I think this also helps Boston in a way given little Jesse to say really you want to be pitches. Gonna to take him back for the season. Him for the season. I wasn't of embarrassment because the game was dead. Even Tony they lost that by the way, by the way. Embiid was fouled. He was. That's why it should have gone to the line shirt to down to but Horford is anything game. Or if it owns them. He cared when Horford regards shooting percentage, much low much lower than anybody else. So we'll do they have a Celtics problem. Yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah. Because they had a whole team pretty much on the floor last night. Boston is without arguably their best play their best player. The only place. A really good team in the country that is not named better by Kyrie irvings Golden State where he becomes irrelevant. Right. When you argue that they're better, they're different when I'm not going to better. They're not. I'm just gonna say they win the game. They win because they play differently. And they have they all know lose. They have another identity that they can turn to they do saw young winner. Jacob degrom and the Mets currently in a contract stalemate to Graham says he will not negotiate anymore. Once the season starts now. The grams agent is on the record saying players should potentially limit their individual workloads before hitting free agency, which to grovel hidden twenty twenty we'll bond would you be okay of say degrom pulled himself out of the game after five innings to protect himself. I don't care at all about the Mets or degrom. So I don't care, but somebody cares. And all people do it seems now is threatened to withhold services because it's not financially prudent 'cause they might. Get hurt or they might lose trade value. What does anybody actually want to play or just justify, you know? You know, their financial status in that sport. This is insane. Nobody wants to actually get out there. And plenty of what the hell they doing this. So this is troublesome to me because I think it works against what I think is the spirit of sports. I understand exactly what the agents saying. And I hate him personally because two things. If you're in a pitch count, five innings and you're over one hundred five or something like that. But if you're at sixty five and you leave because in two years, you're going to be free agent. What agents are saying this because they are upset that free agents all in getting the contracts they want so that takes them the agents out of the Lear jet business. Okay. Because they're not getting enough money. This is antipathetic UIL too. I think sports are about it's deeply troubling to me, even though I was there. But it's troubling to me as loathsome. What did you always say about Michael Jordan plan, eighty two games gave full faith and credit to the ticket? Buying public doesn't with Gregg Popovich don't use. He's the noise all sit out. No, no, Gregg Popovich sat dies who already one stuff when they were nearing four. I don't like say that about Jacob the grandma Honey don't like it don't give you a Mets guy. I don't I don't blame it on Greenwich. Listen to a point where you in. So. Dr Lori on pop. Let's take a break Popovich is fault. Coming up is AM Thomas. They've used for the nuggets night. So you're gonna stand out. I'm just glad back to Kentucky hosed against LSU last night. Choppy. That's my word. You can't even -ticipant my word like that. I'm a doctor humane letters you one. It is us get hosed today. They pop had used that. 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My job is to stand out not fit in. And when I'm healthy. I'm one of the best players in the world. Does that sound like someone who's content to help the rest of the people? I don't think it is. I mean, I the word I wonder here is this. This feels like pouring hydrochloric acid into a beaker. Is it turns tonight for the nuggets is going to be sort of fine because the nuggets already down Harris in their starting lineup even with Murray Yokich meals. We'll Barton, me Beasley, Tori, criminals guys. They need a second unit. Tony they're only a game behind. Okay. See and native players certain way. Isaiah couldn't get money. I'm sorry. You behind Golden State run ahead of the money. Moore's made some plummy trae Lau. He could afford a fi that second unit. Thanks for playing on all next. Anthony Davis performance last night was blank. It was spiteful. Anthony Davis wanted to get traded to the Lakers. And when that didn't happen. Here's what he's doing. It looked like he laid down. He played twenty four minutes. Mike he was one of nine he had six rebounds and three points, the opposing center had seventeen rebounds and twenty five points. The pelicans at home loss by thirty. And they didn't lose to the warriors. They lost to Orlando. They're paying this twenty five million dollars for this really Tony. He doesn't have spite in them. He doesn't he knew energy. And I'm last night. It was lacklustre. Anthony Davis performance last night was laying duck with emphasis on Wayne if you want, but Tony there was no energy there. I watch so little game. I couldn't believe when I saw the score. Like you. What the hell's going on to Orlando? This is lame duck. We want see there anymore shooting. They should have made some kind of deal should they should not sit him down. No. So then are you get more of the? Yeah. Next Kentucky dot blank last night. Well, they got hosed. Okay. Look that's offense of goaltending. Plays offensive goal tending his hand the ball is in the cylinder. Is you cannot touch the ball. That's right. That's a violation. And you go to overtime that point. And that's not what happened. I mean. We both got it wrong. We both look those Raleigh REEs. This is not sour grapes. You can't tell me the referees can't review because that's terrible. That's like the Rams getting no on the Rams saying. You ball game in a season. Stop terrible call. They got beat last night. That's what could talk you got beat. It was not New Orleans. Don't even bring that up. Now, they can't replay it because it's not replaceable in college, we should play would be replaceable at the NBA with. But it wasn't an NBA game. They simply got beat the other stretches in that game who could talk to the taking control of the game and they fail beat next hose. Last one that couture looks blank for under tipping, his caddy, helix bad. I know we looks cheap. But he looks Dan this is sort of murky and we haven't heard from Kucher yet. But it's regular tour. Caddy wasn't with them in a twenty minute in Mexico. He picked up a local caddy and paid him five thousand dollars, and that's fine except that Cuccia one tournament. One one one point three million dollars now regular tour caddy ten percent. But this guy doesn't have to ten percent. But if it stands at five grand he's getting less than one percent. You're not going to sell a lot of SC. Sketchers when everybody thinks thinks you look this band. I I want to hear from Kucher while like, you know, what I think everybody likes golf. But if he just didn't pay this guy leaders looking I'm going to skew all now, he looks like Jack Benny all this. This. Mad world. What about seventy five years of his comic career? He looks like Jack Benny you don't wanna look like that. Like, you're withholding the slow. We have heard from cooter now and still murky, right? But it looks ban issue words wilpon break, but still could Odell Beckham junior be the next big name player to get traded really hand will Manny Machado pick. Projects. So who was who was Jack Benny spoil and all of those Rochester, Rochester, Eddie, Rochester. Anderson. I believe here going we own back sixty five years, and I'm not even that old. Yeah. But you I can look up something that happened before I was born as you studying is your study. Hey, let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the duck inside the other nesting Dole's. He has plenty of time to think if she could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in the most nesting dole. Here's the guy code not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Pitchy INA most nesting Dollond lot in life. People up and twenty nine th birthday Nathan volley of all the late season acquisition for the Red Sox was particularly strong in the postseason Red Sox players gave him the standing ovation after he went six innings of relief in game for the World Series. A game the Red Sox loss in eighteen innings. But of all these saved their pitching staff for the rest of the series that single relief outing has made a volley already legendary cross New England. Are you Kwaidan almost with the relief outings for Madison Bumgarner because he won Bumgarner one. Yeah. So I don't know how to guard, but I'm just not a legend in New England in San Francisco. Happy anniversary Marvin get will on this day. Thirty six years ago Marvin Gaye sang the national anthem at the NBA all star game in Los Angeles, gay reinterpreted, the anthem to the beat of his version of I heard through the grapevine. I was there. It is the greatest national anthem ever performed in the United States. There is no vote on this. Right, mike. No. And you know, how the things I do a lot of. Things in my life. I did not go to that. 'cause jeweler there who took the seat idea from young against surprising. Young columnists was at the last all star game you to tell. No, no, no, no, no, another one did what I wanted to be there. All you think you should redo the anthem Marvin Gaye did it. No, no, those you're not Marvin happy trails John line. Michigan coach was checked for arguing non call at the end of the first half of the fifth ranked wolverines loss act ten state after the game beeline said he thought the last time he was elected from the game was in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine and he made the point of saying to the assembled media most of you weren't born. Then I guess now we're going to have to hear about the bottom of the big ten you've heard about it before north western Illinois Penn State can beach. 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Lamar Sackson

High Noon

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Lamar Sackson

"All right now, I am a professional and now you've been doing this job long understand. You don't move your favorite teams root for the greater good Luthan shown stuff like this show. That's put in the name of safety. Somebody NFC be sanctioned. You cannot have all this in Atlanta for the Super Bowl. I'm telling you that's going to get somebody killed and given that both of us will be in Atlanta for people to die. Just mostly don't wanna die. So good of the show. You can keep it safe. We don't need another Atlanta Super Bowl with a defining theme is what goes wrong. First name today. However is the eagles because last night eagles bears came down to one kick in came Cody parkey for key. That's watch poker. Probably not. Sixteen fifteen they did the ice thing, by the way, he made that one. And then this. Not is so hard to do. Oh, unfortunately, he wasn't trying to do. Oh, oh, do the life of the kicker if he had made that he'd has some glory for about a week. He missed that. He might get a brick. It is when she at anytime anyplace, they don't care who's around. No, he needs to enter the Steve Bartman witness protection program now because everybody is furious that their favorite sport is the kind of sport where the ball is oblong, and guess what stuff? Like this little the ball is tipped to the line of scrimmage led to some blame. Like, I'm not going totally full. Seventy two kicker does get there a tip. But there's nobody else in the stadium except for the other kicker who give you consider doing his job. And all people say to him is he ain't no real football player. And I like to think if the ball was tipped you must acquit, but I don't think that's going to happen. Well, Mani Nick foles, are you believer now or what what's happening? Why why are we talking about believing in the do that let an office this scored sixteen points? What are we talking about here? Did you watch the game because anybody could watch that game come out of the believing Nichols through to two a sense in the first half and tried to throw more in the second half. I got today at one the game. He's old Michelle to foyer van with the second half graphics on to try to make it look decent. That's that was like fifteen for twenty four four hundred fifty something yards. Their defense won this game for this is not about believing in Nick phone. No, I agree. The defense was tremendous leg look that worked out, but that was one of many hospital balls that he was towing up dare. Go ahead. Couldn't have been loving. None of that. There were hospital balls the offensive line, by the way was tremendous giving him protection against the best defense in the league by far. But there was some big Nick energy in this game. Boy, and all I wanna say all I want you to think about is that. You are measuring this energy. Well, this is the thing. Here's a creator of Levin. Booty all I want to point out is that nipples has whatever the opposite of lemon booty is based on what the Super Bowl. And now they scored sixteen point is knocked rate. What are you talking about it? They only scored sixteen point with that big throw at the end on that drive that made it happy before down at the goal on fourth down at the goal line. Absolutely. And they called the time out. It was all in on Nick foles big foles, the Golden State and he's living. He is alive. And he is being why do we have to else to? We have to act like this has anything to do with him. We don't we. Required to buy it. The narrative that we have created as an industry. This was not about him. They won the game while he was playing quarterback. That's cool. We don't have to make it any bigger than it is pretty big though. What is next car? Did you hear that by the way? Lamar jackson. There. It is made right through the fourth quarter and their loss to the charges Jackson's three attempt twenty five yards and an interception. Bob, lows John Harbaugh gone to Joe flacco John Harbaugh made the right call here. Bo because he was in powered by Iraq rec- in sports that I usually kill usually kill all the coach getting in the way. But sometimes you should not let your play calling beat democratic by that. I mean, don't let the arena call the place for you. He has a year left on his contract. He's an extension in the works. And what he made the call on was Joe flacco cat help us in this moment. And I'd rather make life easier for Lamar and myself and this team going forward by leaving this kid in. All right. Well, I inner tain the possibility after they made the changes he was a chance that they could wind up going back to Joe flacco after that though, they went six and one and at that bright this became the mar- Jackson's job so the mar played poorly for basically three quarters area early. So the question then becomes if your quarterback is playing poorly is your solution to go to a bad. Quarterback. Now one who is simply playing four early in the moment. But one who was kinda demonstrated himself to be bet was what Joe flacco done by the time. He lost that job. No. They should not have gone to him. In fact, by the time it all came around in the end, you would not have necessarily spent Joe flacco to play as well as the more Jackson did in the fourth quarter. Lamar Jackson by the and after that fourth quarter. You mentioned had more passing yards than Philip rivers was held to one hundred and sixty by a ravens defense, which was very good. But I do think it's worth pointing out as good as that. Chargers defense was it did feel like Lamar Jackson's main talent bow which is to be faster than everybody else did not seem to come to roost here. Right. He looked like he was caught on a wears by game playoff speed that was actually faster than him. Yeah. I mean, that's going to be an adjustment. That happens with a rookie. You would expect the other part of this is we talked about this before the game. This is the second time that defense had seen this offense running an offense right now that is unlike anything anybody else in the NFL running then they come back out. And they're like, oh, no, no, no. We have in fact. Seen this before. This was going to be a tough game for the ravens authencity their defense played bear very well their quarterback did not play. Well, their quarterback is one of the reasons why they lost the game. However the quarterback is their quarterback. Like, this is their guy. They're in on this now, and they weren't going to make that decision in the middle of that game derail with the larger plan. Yes. And after the game you had chargers players saying that we had watched the tape on the Mark Jackson and not adjustment playing in for the second time in three weeks that mattered because based on foot positioning, it seemed of the line of everybody involved in that offense. They could predict what was coming. And that is something they're going to have to solve all. So they did something that you don't see they played basically seven defensive bag out whole gay not dedom- baby the quarter, they had seven DB's out there, which almost seems counter intuitive. When you're talking about trying to stop a team from running the other thing, though, I think this is to consider they probably need to let the more throw the ball board because they were a bit predictable early. Last name the colts colts cruise to a Twenty-one to. Seven victory yesterday over the Texans. Bo and have now won ten of their last eleven. So did Andrew lock in Marlin MAC, they all convince you they can beat the chiefs this weekend. Oh, they can beat the cheats because the chiefs Cain be beaten by just about anyone because that chiefs defense can make just about any other offense looked like the chiefs offense, they can win it. Now. Are they going to win it? I'm not so sure about this with Texas had plenty of chances to make plays that would have had to winning this game. The difference came down to the fact that the Colt had a better quarterback than the Texas do and the colts have a quarterback who played much better than the Texas Coon back. Yeah. And I would say that the colts we have spent a lot of time wondering did they adequately protect Andrew luck his shoulder and therefore his career and this was the game where they proved to everybody. No. We got him. We got this Morlin max at the record. Bo playoff rushing yards by a tailback for the colts. They have an offensive line led by my brother Winton, Nelson who was pancake people today. Uncloudy JJ watt. No, they have him under control. And it's rolling right now, ten of eleven is up in the hottest human leads still. He's not your brother Pablo by like, you get to claim all of the Asians. You don't get to claim white dudes named Quinton. But is not your brother if he's anybody's brother. He would be mine in spite of your attempt to see if he was Asian because you thought his eyes may have been a giveaway. They are something of a giveaway, but I did find video of him taking taekwondo lessons. So. Oh, yeah. Reality Clair's welfare to this world, by the way, you become less white because you took taekwondo lessons. Okay. Colts, though, this is a much more talented outfit than we had seen them having. Absolutely. This is impressive. What they've managed to put together because. Yeah, they kind of bird years of Andrew luck's career it might not look like because they kept going to the playoffs. But they never had a team that looked like it had a legitimate chance to make any noise. This one looks like a team that could make some noise. They look like they could in fact beat the chiefs this next round. I'm not betting on it. But they could I am leaning that way because they've given up the fewest sacks in the league in this eleven gave run they have the number one scoring defense. But after this game vote, we have a toast from jimmer say to wash. No me. I'm a perfectionist guys. I know you guys you got Moore in the tank, okay? Like thirty one points, baby. Maybe. I will leave it at that. I'm sorry. I don't wanna watch mood on screws. I love. Say. Vows a player jimmer say it would be a cool owner to have like they like you fuss at she totally. But I will also say that if Jim Irsay was a player he'd probably be placed in some sort of protocol after that speech. There was something. I mean watched the the faces in the background, right? Frank reich. Look into players looking a little bit of comfortable with our with our data to wet air odors. A bit of a weirdo. Right. Like, this is what it is. You just hope made his cameras over there. I hope he didn't say anything crazy. Start saying Beatles song, and nobody knows worse to in there, even Frank right? Lease didn't dance there is that coming up next. Are you believe in the Cowboys? Do you believe? Listen to this show to apple podcasts, Bomani is too. I've got a podcast. Where's yours Pablo? Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete blades since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in his hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven peak realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how Geico proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out ratings are things as being to you from above the Heineken river deck and pier. Seventeen. Got to say, it is the NFL got the one thing it needed out of this weekend. If nothing else was that. The ravens will not be playing the Super Bowl in Atlanta. They don't need. Then you're not. Really do not. I quote this win against a very credible. Seattle team will make people think more highly of Jason. Said Jerry Jones about his coach Jason Garrett so boat this game. Make you think more highly of Jason Jason Garrett had a job for nine years. One game. The change my mind about him after he's had the job for nine years. Whatever conclusion you have about Jason Garrett has already been drawn even if they win a Super Bowl Jason, Gary, you know, what you're going to say Dan Jason Gary won a Super Bowl. But you're not going to change anything that you think of him already kudos for pulling this season off though, none of us thought that it was going to end the way that he did. But it turned on defense. And that's not what we think about. We'll be thinking about Jason get. No, that's right. The case for Jason Garrett is premised on a bunch of results that I do think cloud the process of how good Jason Garrett actually is the guy did win like the most games in the NFC over the last three years, but I don't think any actual Cowboys fan watching these games loves Jason Garrett. And by the way, we're watching this game. Bo didn't Seattle beat themselves a little bit. I don't know why they acted like they didn't have a really good quarterback in the first half. Get it y'all run the ball. That's the thing you go to people. They do what's that wasn't working while Julian on number three just a little bit. Like, this is Brian Schottenheimer. Classic right here. Yes. A guy who was Russell Wilson averaging close to nine yards per attempt versus a rushing game that was averaging under three yards per game. But yes, the Seattle Seahawks. Have this thing where they ran the ball more than they've passed it. There would be only team to do it as much as they did in two thousand eighteen but by the end of it it went from a strategy to a religion like a suicide called. Why are we doing this because we like running that much of it also gives us to the Cowboys to right? They got those young linebackers in that pass rushing. The game has changed. Jason Smith has recovered from that the bowl injury. And looks to be the player that people thought that he might turn it up late Vander Asia's moved in nicely into that inside linebacker slash fan. So we rolls that was previously occupied by Sean Lee. And he's been out there killing it like the personality of this team two years ago with that offensive line. Now, we look at the. Doughty that team being defense. And now we have to NFC east teams these second weekend. NFL play somebody signs. Quote, Minnesota has fire president and co style. Tweet a age awards and our ski Pablo is prized by this. I'm not surprised by the results because the guy was the head coach Andy head of basketball operations, and that was a terrible idea at the time and it remained. So until he was fired. But the timing is weird because he did feud with the owner seemingly Glenn Taylor over should they get rid of Jimmy Butler or not should they punt this season and play for the future or not? Instead, they fired him after he'd beat the Lakers by twenty two which is straight. The thing. I'll say though, is the guy that the odor probably would have wanted to coach the team became available to coach that team. And that's Fred Hoiberg now that he became available but Taylor loves him. That is his guy people think about that is your hiring. The bulls old coat note of them. They're like, we're hiring our former player and assistant general manager. That's the way that they wind up seeing this. But I mean keeps for what I think we have a visceral reaction to the idea of somebody getting fired but him staying there. Good for who. For what? But they hire. Fred Hoiberg, which I think is ultimately what they're going to do. Good luck with that. No, nothing about the mayor excites. Anybody I think in basketball of this point safer Glenn Taylor? But the big problem for anybody who inherits this team, VO correlates towns looks a lot better. But you know, it doesn't Andrew Wiggins career low in terms of true shooting percentage. His points per game is down to like seventeen. He's a max player who's playing like the opposite. As he is the worst contract in the NBA. Be all the problem is now you can't fake anybody out about Wiggins like there may have been a point where you might be able to get somebody think they get unlocked this dude, and you could sell hot this is year five for him. You're stuck under that contract for who knows? How maybe the light will come for him. Right. Maybe everything will change, and he will become the player that we thought that he could be. But this looks to be the do that. He is right. He looks like a guy who should be better. But really isn't last quote, I've had many conversations with players over the years that would warrant that type of description. This wasn't one of them. Said seventy Sixers coach Brett Brown denying the report that Jimmy Butler challenged him in a quote, disrespectful way, while questioning his role in the offense abode you believe Brett Brown. I mean, I don't know this bread. Brown says this is not the case, right? Jimmy's people say that this is absolutely not the Cajun. I'm inclined to believe that this wasn't that big of a deal as it happened. Right. And on top of that. I didn't get to the place of who wants us to think that this is a big deal where it since you get out like this sort of thing happens in the NBA fairly probably why is it that we know about this. Yeah, Brett Brown said to reporters after the report came out. He said I open the floor to disagreement when I run my film sessions. Jimmy, Butler said she wants to run more pick and roll doesn't like doing the strapped to the stret- the staggered dribble. Handoff type of deal. But in terms of who wants this to be out Jimmy Butler. I think would like to get that big offer bigger than. Any other team could make from the Sixers come the off season bread Brown. And the Sixers would like to have the star slash superstar, depending on your point of view. That's in hand right now who else on this team might want the ball a little bit more. Yeah. One guy is on record saying I'd like the ball little bit more in Joel Embiid. But the thing is with the Sixers as an organization they've been so patently dysfunctional for so long that you can't assume that it's not like the fact that this out to me as a much bigger problem than whatever they had gone off coming up next who you got Alabama Clemson. Man that two point of ours, though, the bears are going to get it and take it the other way. It'll be says an exciting play. You know, what I realize what did you realize that only happens to the fountains, you still really happy? I'm telling you that only that you don't remember what that action? I know. I just keep hearing that you're not a falcons fan, but you're reading during the saints. And also, I I still don't like the saints. Today's today's number five and a half. That is how many points Alabama is favored to win by Clemson in the P national championship two nights. How do you see this game plan out? I mean, I don't see any reason to think that the game is not going to be close like the chance that Clemson has is even without decks Lawrence. They got that great deep defensive lot. If they can get pressured with four they have a chance to come out there and win that game offensively Clemson gets out there with tempo, they've got the ingredients that are typically difficult for Nick Sabin defense the deal with I don't know. How bet against the team? We're receivers that always get open on the quarterback that always gives it tool. Yeah, I'm not betting against Alabama. But let's be clear about something. Alabama's dominance over the last three years has not precluded these games from being super close last year famously overtime three point difference here before that a four point difference here before that a five recipient in the championship game specifically and so- Alabama seems to let teams hang around them. Even if you consider them to be the Goliath that they've been here saying, they're not let. These teams hang around. These teams are good, right? Like, I think the thing with Alabama's it's been so good so consistently good that we forget that. There are other teams that tend to similar level at least if they're going to play against them in one game last year Clinton at Kelly Bryan out there and the recipe for beating the same team has typically been have a quarterback and move Alabama swallowed him up. There was nothing that he can do. Trevor Morris can move enough to get this done and Trevor Lawrence can make throats like I think that this'll be a game within a field goal. I got the very least I think Clemson oke up and Trevor lords is very good, but to amend the only way someone has slowed down to this year is to injure him other than that he's mostly been in. You can do it on the in between you don't have to hurt them. You just gotta get heat. And if you can get some heat, then I think that you got a chance if there's any team that's going to be able to get heat with four people. It's going to be Clemson. All right. In clove somewhere right now. There's someone out there who owes his best friend twenty dollars that his best friend needs. But he's on the internet giving money to a strike stop giving money to strangers on the internet. And I look here's how this thing win. Right. Cody parkey missed that kick a lot of eagles fans called themselves. Q found him on the venom. Oh started sending him money on the VIN. And then when people realize that people were sending Cody park money on vim. Oh, people will like just sweet Cody park. Yeah. Why don't you save me some money? Go do that's right now. Not to the people who didn't even bother changing they full names. It just went out there and just put Cody parkey up top jogging. It's bread. This is though the internet in two thousand eighteen to go on Twitter. Everybody is just reposting memes and posting their sound clouds cash up links underneath we're all panhandling online. But the thing is these people are going to pay it handling what they saw was you're giving money away. I would liked some money that don't really care if the actual Cody. He gets the money that they're talking about. Of course, why don't you just get to me, and it was stopped stop giving money to strangers on the internet unless there's some of the Geneva charitable situation. Even if it is double checking, I feel like double checking who you're sending money to on the internet should apply to not just random people. But also like how does someone get my credit card information every month? I feel like there's something along those lines happening here too online. Right. We're just sort of like sending things into either. And hoping we don't get punished, but we will we will get punished like everybody now is going to look for your credit card. Yeah. I regret that. Yeah. And in fact, I am on Ben moa. So once that happens to me up, I think they can ask also don't forget that donate in closing a lot of you have many strong opinions on who's good at announcing football games. And I do get it Beto old up the name. Okay. It's jot. Your model Ricky Ricardo Baba's. Mexican Jay, Dan Levin. Have you done? No. No. Everything on your and better. Switch out, sir. I'm sorry. Is it said it's better as Spanish for just that they got a different cultural situation that I let them do this while I think it is like the bat flipping, right? Like, you can flip that as an announcer, and it somehow seems okay and natural as opposed to trying real hard. Yeah. No. They it's always better. Like, why don't we do this for every game? We have friends I know who call games were a play by play guys. But I am sorry. They know they ain't got it. Like that. If they should learn Spanish, maybe that'll be good. The most day helping and Dan moss. 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Lakers's problems, Flacco to Denver, Kyler Murray stock, PG13 MVP?

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Lakers's problems, Flacco to Denver, Kyler Murray stock, PG13 MVP?

"Uh-huh. Hi, everyone. And welcome to first thing Spurs, some general the hall of Famer Chris Carlin is. Here. About. Thing to everyone today. Today to let who in. A week. We're gonna ply. Joe flacco in a little bit on that trade. But other news going onto the collar Murray's agent is calling out his critics, and we gotta talk about what's happening in basketball with the state of affairs for the Lakers on this day before the all-star break. Happy Valentine's Day. Let's get ready to do. We got love for you Lakers. Enter the break in tenth place in the west three games out of the last playoff spot. The young guys aren't improving the rotation isn't gelling, and as a result many have speculated cluding us here at this desk that Luke Walton job may be in jeopardy. But according to report Walton will definitely finish the season and has the full support of the team's front office. Nick, I'll start with you. What did you make of this decision when you heard about it? So I found the report marines thing I've found the sourcing of the report interesting, and we'll get into that. But the my initial reaction was while this was the plan. The plan was to certainly give Luke Walton this year. The full year, and that was without anticipating LeBron missing more time things ever missed injury Rondo being suspended and injured Ingram being suspended. Lonzo missing a couple strikes time due to injury. So it's justifiable. I think it's the wrong decision. I think you had plenty of reasons to deviate from the plan from the intangible reason, which is how much are the young players really developing. How much was that blowout loss right at the trade deadline to the Pacers, the fault of coaches inability to tell these guys, hey, you got a job to do. This is part of being a pro athlete. That's the intangible to the tangible, which is the haphazard seemingly. No rhyme or reason. The minutes that go up and down and fluctuate. I I'm old enough to remember early in the year. We're really concerned about LeBron's minutes. That went out the window right around the time. You had reason to be concerned about LeBron's minutes. Coming off the injury that that tangible wins last time the Lakers ran out of time out play or out of bounds playing. You're like, wow. Haven't seen that one before. So I think they had plenty of reasons to deviate from the plan it would appear they are not going to deviate from the plan. I think at the end of the year, they might look back and say, why did we want to keep Luke Walton, but it would appear they're keeping lukewarm. Did. They did run a little sexy out of bounds in Atlanta. And LeBron made the unbelievable pass led to a layup. That was missed. Yes. So that was it might have been more LeBron than designed. But I understand I understand your concern. I understand your commentary comments about Luke Walton because it would be hard. I think yesterday you did an amazing job of you asked me. Okay. We'll prove it to I'm willing to have this discussion with you about Luke Walton, but give me this evidence. That is going to be able to swing me 'cause I'm willing to listen to it. I didn't really have anything forms. I've been looking for people to build a right stuff Bill to say stuff. And it is it is on the board. That Luke Walton would be fired now for me, I wouldn't firing because everything that the Lakers have done since they hired Magic Johnson. It had more like a Magic Johnson. We're going to be patient type of thing to it. And Luke Walton is the only piece really that was there before magic. So magic didn't pick the coach yet. So alternately if I'm running basketball operations if I pick rob Pelinka, which he did to build a the general manager. Ultimately, we're going to have to pick the coach and I wouldn't want to have to pick that coach during the regular season. So I'm going to let Jenny bus. Have her way. It's her coach I'm going allow him to coach show the end of the season given that you can't control. Let's say after Christmas day, we're in the fourth spot arguing players. They're developing Ingram. Not at the rate. We'd like Lonzo not at the rate. But Kouzmin is above what we end maybe real quick start interrupt on Lonzo. And maybe we're seeing it over the last few weeks. We might have been underwriting lonzo's defensive impact because. And he has been developing on that track closing argument my politics because it's about the missed games. Lebron is eighteen games. How can this young team recover? And if there's another player, you don't want to be hurt. It might not be just on paper Rondo, MS thirty four games Rondos temendous leader. So when you have both of those guys veterans out with championship experience out of the lineup. Ingram's miss eleven games. Lonzo miss ten games to me. That's the only reason outside of Magic Johnson didn't hire. Let's make this do to regular season postseason if we make it then we'll start from scratch. Well, he can hire his own coach. But when you miss that many games, it's hard to say, I'm giving him a fair shake when guys aren't able to be on the basketball. And Nick everything with this team has been a distraction this season rotations, the chemistry development of the young guys. Lebron being out. Tampering deadline. Everything's been a distraction. Maybe this is one thing where they could just nip it in the bud and say, okay, just for the rest of the season. This won't be distraction. Like, let's just take the whether this new head coach or not off the table. Is there something to that? You're looking at why you think the Lakers would would would think this would be the best move for the team with that be a part of it potentially. But I think the real reason is because the owner of the team likes, Luke Walton. And I think the owner of the team was the one in the anonymously quoted in this article genius because it does not make any sense Broderick Turner's. Excellent reporter broddrick is the one for the Los Angeles Times as one woes nationally. This one's clothes was a local reporter who had what? Now, he said people close to the situation quota. But then the kept going back to one person according to one person with authorization over the decision. There's only three people that one person could be Pelinka magic genie bus and if Paul. Winco or magic wanted to give Luke Walton vote of confidence. They would not do it anonymously. You would put your name to it. The only person who I believe whatever reason to anonymously is Lincoln Magic's boss, who's publicly said, we love Luke, Luke Kuhn stick around. But I will leave it up to them to me. I believe Jeanie Buss knew there was a chance that Lincoln magic. We're gonna have a phone call together and call her later in the day and say we want to move on from Luke, and she was nipping that in the bud. And she was because she she is publicly said it's up to them. But they read this news report as well. If I'm reading this correctly, and magical plinking said, you didn't you're not the source are, you know, you're not the source are you? Well, who's the only other possible source our boss, I guess this is her way of meddling without meddling her way of letting us know yet still up to us, but somebody told the local newspaper, he's not getting fired. And so I- Jeanie Buss. This is her got and he is an LA kid and he did play. For the team when her dad was still around. There's a lot of the Luke in Ingram are the only guys involved in the Lakers that predate Najib employ Inca. And so I I think this came from ownership and the Lakers are going to have to deal with it. Because I think that there are I think magic and Pelinka feel similarly to how I do that maybe Brian not the long-term answer. But he's not going to do worse over the last twenty five games in Luke Walton is done quickly. Are you both convinced by the season's end, they're most likely moving on whatever they do during the season from Luke Walton it depends on them making the playoffs. And because I believe LeBron and the health of the Lakers can cure this. If they get back to where they were let's go December the fourth seat. Now. The reason why they've missed an I believe that Lonzo defensive point because one of the worst in NBA after week number three June July nineteenth doing nineteen January nineteen the one worst in the league. So that point right there. We have to look at that the injuries have affected these. Young kids, and I just believe firing Luke Walton if these kids were in turmoil over the trades not development. What do you think they would be with the new coach in the building? I don't believe that would give them greater comfort. So part of their development is I'm a stabilize it for the rest of the season. I'm not convinced that Luke Walton won't be the coach to start next season. I would be shocked if he's the coach to in next season. And that's one of the reasons why I would made the move. Now, we thought David Blatt was going to be one in done in Cleveland, and then LeBron turned on playoff LeBron. They made the finals can't fire him after making the finals and you go into next season with essentially a lame duck. Coach who your star player doesn't love playing for you fire midseason if the Lakers are able to get to the seven line, or if the war's as you pointed out yesterday, which I is very interesting drop to the two line and the Lakers are the eight there, the eight seed, and they upset the one Denver Nuggets not gonna fire the coach, even if you should've fired the coach the all star break, and then you're in the interim situation, you're one of the many. He reasons why. Because I do think it's on the board. They still go on run despite the coach to one of the reasons why would have done it. Now a lot of fourteen it's eight and fifteen now since Christmas take a break coming up. Joe? Flacco was dealt to Denver that is next on one. And you can always listen to on the Fox Sports channel on Sirius XM, right? Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks ETF s options and cryptos all commission free. They strive to make financial services work for everyone. 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So you never miss the right moment to invest Robin Hood is giving our listeners of three stock such as apple Ford or strength to help Bill jor portfolio. Sign up at first dot, Robin, Hood dot com. That's I dot Robin, Hood dot com. I Nick's Sixers rookie Kevin Knox throwing down the Bonsor slam over Ben Simmons second straight night. Somebody does this to been Simmons man, Jason Tatum night before last Kevin Knox. He got eat that big fellow knocks after slow start with the Knicks man is starting to show some of that promise coming from Kentucky man back door cut here. What a finish that is outstanding ticket charge. No, it would have been better. No, no, no, Cavs nets. But you wanna put chair alanon? Poster Markey's, Chris with the Tomahawk are let's watch this marquess Chris bounced around the league Argyle, Jared, Allan listen this happen when you the best dunk blocker in the league, you sometimes you can come up snake eyes. Who went for Marquez? Chris got a piece of Alan too much. The worst basic still Nick, you gotta be three a triple threat fake. Let's get them up. And I'm coming down with his car to the Tom Manzke for basketball inside. John's poly you break thrown down and aggressive dunk over evoke zubec- ch- zoo box actually had a pretty good game for the clips last night as the clips get another win. I thought they were done trying to win. It's becoming annoying clippers traded away your best player. There's a nice little play for the sons one of their eleven. Nice plays this season. The sons are on our highlight reel more time than they have wins. Finally, some defense here. You don't see this often? James harden, getting shut town. Josh Kogi goes goes and gets it. I mean, he basically poems at up top. They had to amazing exchanges back to back. We're he handled hard. Now harden was doing his thing. So got a sporty to of course. They mainly worked for it made them work for and beat them. By the way, we helpful as well nother. Nice win for the ten rules moving on big NFL news yesterday chill. Flacco is headed to Denver in return for what's reported to be a fourth round pick the former Super Bowl MVP's deal goes through twenty twenty one but has no guaranteed money left. Flacco was the odd man out in Baltimore this season when the ravens turned to Lamar Jackson. So John Elway bringing in yet another quarterback in what has become a carousel of mediocrity at the position. See what do you make of this trade in Denver? Joe laco? I I knew because lava the optics and commentate will be on Denver. I gotta give credit to Baltimore Baltimore since to end the season. This look at what they've done after a very good playoff run. And that defense was outstanding the nation. Could finally see man that Baltimore. They really have a good defense. Lamar Jackson improving every. Snap along the way. Only going to get more confidence removing the Super Bowl champion quarterback out of that locker room right next to Lamar Jackson removing him. So now Lamar I talked him at the Super Bowl. And man he's so excited about the off season getting able to work with the ravens and their staff or why receivers getting better in the passing game realizing those things need to happen and not have to fight for a job not have to worry about. It is a huge relief. You can say what you want. I want to be a good teammate. All. Yeah. It's nice to have them make it that guy out of here. Man. Right. So I can flourish. If it's really my team this guy has Super Bowl experience. Great Super Bowl memories. These fans he brought them a Super Bowl like they're not going to forget that. So Baltimore men hand clap for them because they didn't also job of given their franchise quarterback a lot of confidence as for Denver. Hey, denver. John Elway John. I'm let you pick every other position. On the team. And there's a lot of this is we're going to keep sixty players on the roster. But John, I just need you leave the quarterbacks alone. Now, I do like the fact you didn't spending hydra pick being a fourth. Okay. For a guy. Who's can be a starter? I can understand. I like the fact doesn't have any guaranteed money. So if he gets there, you don't like him, you can't cut your, but not this in my opinion, this year's essentially guaranteed. You don't trade a fourth round pick to not have them on the team this year? But you don't have to because there is no short guaranteed money. Now, it's not a great trade. But look where they are. I thought they were a year removed from that. I thought when you sign case keenum, you know, what you're getting. You're not shopping at whole foods. You're sobbing at the local grocery store all the protas wrong produce, but it's all listening the produce will spoil on you before whole foods. You got a little more of a guaranteed. Okay. This case get listen you sorry. On a second. Hold on a second. His you've been far too diplomatic here. John Elway has made repeatedly horrific decisions at the quarterback position. Okay. He got Peyton Manning handclasp. He drafted Brock Osweiler with Russell Wilson on the board. That was terrible. The what the best thing. Listen Brockhouse while there's defense. He's six foot eight he then tried to Brock Osweiler fifteen million dollars a year after seeing him play got bailed out by the Texans giving him more. He then double down on that by trading for Paxton Lynch. Paxton someone's never played any quality Sampson the NFL but in his defense. He's six foot five and now you trade fourth round pick for Joe flacco who has been the worst starting quarterback in the NFL for the last five years, but in his defense, he's six six. Okay. This is you sign case keenum to a deal that is sticky to get out of after one year. Case keenum is exactly who came to Ben every year of his career except the outlier urine in Minnesota and side. That's not good enough. So here's the guy you by the way, there was you had to rush to the market for Joe flacco. Okay. That's this playoff run that got him his contract. That's everything cents the playoff run the years and years of starting you, by the way, you see those numbers in yellow the yards passing touchdown interceptors show passer rating that represents dead last in the NFL in every single category. He's terrible and contrary to what some people would tell you being a Super Bowl winning quarterback. It's not like a power up in video game where in some in some big spot. You can all of a sudden activate a magical shield like well. Hey too big playoff game activate that Super Bowl winning quarterback power that you've been saving it does nothing for you. Save young super winning quarterback. I wouldn't want him on my team in two thousand nineteen either. This is ridiculous. It's a terrible move that you didn't have to make. And by the way on the bright side. See, you know, how many teams in the NFL more cap space allocated to their quarterback this year than the Denver. Coz only the New Orleans Saints. The Broncos will have the second most expensive quarterback room because you pay ten million to case on the cap not to play nineteen million flacco to try to play and whoever your backups going to be aids. This is if I'm a Broncos fan, I'm so angry that what what were they afraid of that he's going to get cut? And there's going to be a rush to give him a multi year deal that you if he's cut what does he signed for one year twelve million? And you don't give up a pick. I don't I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. What do you think? John Elway thinks he's getting out of Joe flacco tall guy. I think he's doing try to resurrect a passing game. I mean, they don't also have the type of speed at wide receiver that would say, okay. Let me go out and get if I had two or three guys Emmanuel Sanders. Yeah. I got a lot of respect for his game. He's a quality wide receiver has been in a Pro Bowl level, but you need to or three guys with speed Joe flacco, what does he been known for throwing the ball deep down. On the field. So f-, I'm not gonna put off down. They do have a good running game that offense aligns gotta get a lot better because he is getting ready to get hit in the mouth high. He better get him a prescription at dispensaries because he's getting some body pain. Joe? Flacco is not going to build a move in the pocket. I mean that is the best thing about Denver is their bright young running back. How many times are gonna give him the ball next year to build setup? Joe play action down the field. Because Nick didn't point this out. That is what he does best based on what the contrary to that wasn't on the ground know what in the thing. Joe flacco and I'm not being smart smart Aleck here. He does better than any quarterback in the league is drawing pass interference penalties on deep on deep pats that does not account in quarterback rating. He don't get credit for that. Maybe you should they the ravens are always one of the best or had been at the long sixty passenger. I want to be and the reason why is typically he has a little more arc on the football. So the defensive backs the timing of it is not necessarily there used to ball. Arrive in a little early. So in drawing contact with the wide receiver. That's it's not a skill is just how Joe drills and he throws it deep. But genita- your point. I know you were kind of joking when you brought up case. Listen, the Broncos to best offensive linemen got hurt last year. They traded away to marries Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, mistime and case keenum played to his career averages across the board. If that wasn't a good enough level of play giving the circumstances from case, then signing case was a travesty like when you signed case to two years thirty six million with over twenty million guaranteed. It was a one year rental then you can't structure the contract to where it's going to be five percent of your total cap to cut him in year two. But that's not what they thought. Obviously they thought he was the answer. Well, I'm going to you look in that case keenum, you have to realize that when you living for quarterback, but I might sign him for short term deal. But I can't. Looking for a quarterback because he is not going to stabilize a franchise like that's just unrealistic like you case keenum until man, I need you to patch up. My tires until I get me some new tires by. He's no you can't go a long way with him their situation last year in the dollars. They signed him for that was a good deal by John Elway signing case. Keenum was the better deal out the second best quarterback deal besides Peyton Manning showing up on his doorstep. But then keep it thinking him for this year because he played case keenum played like case keenum, don't don't allocate more of your cap and a fourth round pick for Joe flacco. I just have a patch with another pet since they won the Super Bowl. He has been by every city school category. The worst starting quarterback in football. That's not. There's no denying it. I don't get it. You know what John always doing? He just wants to make sure that that he is the greatest Bronco's quarterback that ever got that cover definitely has a covered seemingly coming up as Paul George now the front runner for. NBC? We'll tell you think. So next time I. Continues today with the gander RV. Newell daytonas drivers battle for the starting position in the Daytona five hundred coverage begins at five thirty eastern on one and the Fox Sports. It is that time for us to go viral last night. Joel Embiid and the Sixers were here New York face the Knicks and beat posted twenty six points, fourteen rebounds. But it was this moment that had the internet a buzz Joel going after a loose ball almost hits Regina king. Yes, the same Agena king who's up for an Oscar after the game. She tweeted thank you God. And Joel b for your abilities crisis averted with the pray and handsome Mucci John music, some athleticism to not really injure some people there, Joel. Yes lucky. She didn't pay for that whole thing hair. Thank goodness. We've because of her that would have been that much longer. She would have caught one no size eighteens. Oh, Maxine just just wrist it to ponytail. There's. Because there's a different limp to a lot of Herrmann know, Chris. I didn't I didn't put some money down on here. I know these things Joel Embiid solve at he'd been here in America enough. He note his all that in here. He he jumped over the woman and landed right in the in the guy's lap. Protect the leaf. Yeah. I'm just telling you when you go there, and you selected hair sometimes twenty years thirty six hollow Ohama I bought it right in my life too. That we go pull competitive. That's what Nick right. Also mayor in my day. It's a true who to our on joined the moment, I'm going to move on with stores to start your morning the. Yeah, the warriors already to introduce you. A couple ponytails next week. Okay. All right. To Jinnah the warriors fell to the blazers. It wasn't pretty one twenty nine one zero seven, but the headline out of this Steve Kerr his objection Golden State's head coach was tossed after slamming the clipboard protesting a flagrant foul. Call on Draymond green with under four minutes to go. Nick. Would you think loosen tough loss for the for the warriors? The I mean, the blazers got eight points on the possession in question here. It was a terrible flagrant foul call on Draymond green. But I give Steve Kirk credit. I think he knew that dream on was going to explode. So he did it. And he said if I lose my mind, Draymond not going to write. And you'd rather Kerr giddy jetted than Draymond potentially get suspend those a couple times during the year, if you're coaching Golden State, you need a couple of this. Like, I tell the key is I'm coming into the locker room. Now. I don't want to sit too close to the chalkboard. Because I'm getting ready to throw a chair sometime you need that especially extra motivation for this warriors. They were trying to win this thing game though, Trump lasers play played well terrible fourth quarter for Golden State on the Celtics beat the pistons one eighteen one ten behind a balanced scoring attack. Six different Celtics scored Intel digits. None of them reach twenty points. Boston is now nine into without Kyrie Irving. See what do you make of that? Man. You never liked to because I'm a guy about talent. The more talented guys you have there. The better your chances are winning. But there are some instances that man would ever you see does not appear to be real okay with out. Kyrie Irving who is their best player. They play better team basketball when he's injured. That's all. That's I can't explain it. No better than that. It's so odd because all the metrics say they're so much better with him on the court off the court. He's having his best season of his career. He's distributing the ball more this season than any year of his career. And if I was one of the teams in the east, I would rather play them without without horse nine and two it's a small sample, but it's not a tiny sample size. So it is something it's something at least to note the biggest rob something to to run. They went on last year in the playoffs without this year. They're better all right to the big news out of the NFL. Now, the Broncos are trading for Joe flacco, which means case keenum is the odd man out. Denver reportedly shopping they're big free agent acquisition from last off season c can case keenum help a team in need of a quarterback. Look at the teams that might need a quarterback Jacksonville. Could he? Actually help Jacksonville. Like, let's not change the narrative who case keenum is. No, he's not the guy that gonna put a team over the top. Like, listen, he is someone that low. So I can't I can't afford that Mercedes. Let me get me something else. That's going to be a reliable for about twelve months Acura. I. No, no, no, not cures more reliable than hill. And no, no, no. I said twelve months I say, he's he's a nice under warranty Ford Fiesta. So listen, you know, what team could really use case keenum a team that has an overrated aging expensive quarterback. The Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos all that. He's getting replaced by the listen, I think cases better than flacco. And he's lost his job to flacco cases. Probably about the twenty eighth. Best starting quarterback in football. There's thirty two teams. The problem is a bunch of those teams guys. He's better than our young guys. That teams want to give a chance to like. Right. And so he's probably going to be back. Neither one on better than cap. Gosh. No, wait. I'm throwing out there. The giants Pat Shurmur throwing something else out there. Jimmy a little pocket. Shame and saying what's wrong with an Acura Djinnit how. At money. My you know, finally to the best wide receivers beyond the move. We know Antonio Brown trade from the Steelers when asked to make prediction. Fox's Jay Glaser said that the giants would deal del Beckham junior this off season. Nick was just a prediction from glady, but both were available via trade, which these White House. Would you rather have AB or Odal Odell even though he's been more productive Odell is younger Odell I do not believe is a locker room issue. The way in Tonio is now he might be a distraction issue. He's going. He might pop off the mouth sitting next to a high out of his mind. Little Wayne once a year, they might put some odd things on the Graham, but we've talked to snacks Harrison we have talked to saquon Barkley every giant player. We've talked to said I love Odell Beckham like that. He is within those for a lot of those guys. He's a. Good friend and teammate. And I think his talent level is undeniable. Now, the injury concern all of a sudden, he's one more injury away. I would say from being an injury risk, right? His rookie area. The sprained ankle made a mistake two years ago. He broke his leg. And then last year he missed time at the end of the year. So I don't think it's a trend yet. But it could become one, but in Tonio because of how volatile he's become within the team and outside of the team with some of the potential legal issues. I would I would rather have Odell Beckham now in moving forward. Dan Antonio, and we have to be able to a grant Odell the type of time and a number of different mistakes that has made. I mean, they're not the same age is not the same comparison AB has been more productive. He's also had a lot better quarterback. Also had a lot better offense that he played in actually knew what they were doing when on the field with a plan of what they were going. To do. So Steidl the coaching. Yes. I don't think that trying to compare them and numbers is the right thing to do if we're on the football field. Odell can do more. I think Odell is a smarter football player. Now AB is just productive. And he's been in that system, he's mastered that system so at this point, I would much rather have Odell, but realizing that Odell might show up one day and be like, I don't wanna be here either. That's the state of both of these white receivers. So I can understand why Jay Glazer I wouldn't be surprised if Odell didn't play his whole career in New York. I talked to Dale at the Super Bowl had a long had a couple of long conversations with him. So Odell is still growing as a young person and being in New York City. I know people talk about it a lot. But most of those people have never played in New York City. So I'm not going to say, oh del doesn't want to play in New York. But the world. Is open. And when you have a home in Los Angeles in off season. I'm just sure is it would have a certain pool on you and continue to pull on you. And I just believe that Odell will have that type of interest in other team or tation. Yes and win both. The teams are really good. Both the teams were twelve. Plus when teams this year, you yes, we were talking about in Tonio, you you were very angry with Antonio. You want them shipped to buffalo is some punitive measure in an odd way. I think where 'Antonio gets traded to could have an impact on owed ELS disposition. And by that. I mean this Antonio gets traded to a great situation in a great city with a good quarterback. And is rewarded for this? Then Odell might look at it and say man, sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the exact Greece. They want. I mean, Tony traded to buffalo or a situation. Similar jacksonville. My looking okay. The giants might not be perfect any lie might not be my ideal quarterback, but insurance hell could get worse. And so I do think it'll be instructive as to wear and Tonio. If Antonio is rewarded for what's happened this year or if he's penalized, and whether or not that has a trickle down effect on Dell's disposition moving forward with the giant. I wouldn't be surprised if New England look at trading for a wide receiver. One in particular, Abe. I wouldn't be surprised with them having the thirty second pick in the first round. And he's already got three more years. That's a perfect contract for them and agent. You can't strong New England you have to come to work, and we'll see sound not gonna play anymore and so playing with Tom Brady for the next year or two that could be very very appealing. If the patriots turn the thirty second pick of the draft into a year of Brandin cooks on a cheap contract. And then turn that into the twenty third pick of the draft. And then the next year turned the third second pick of the draft into Odell Beckham they are just playing three dimensional chess while everyone else's playing connect four. Like if that if that's how this turns out. I don't think Odell I'm sorry. I misspoke and you'll Brown. I'm spoke to say for the record. I enjoyed buffalo. Jim. Jim a little cold, but I really liked buffalo. I love the organization many winners Rich Stadium when it was. Let's get back to the NBA to the NBA. Now, Paul George is having an incredible season for the thunder. Most recently dropping back to back forty point games against the rockets, and the blazers his success has boosted the conversation around his MVP chances and his teammate Russell Westbrook gutting on the chatter saying that Paul George is his front runner for MVP. Nick is Russ right over houses. Right that he's his front runner. He's supposed to be his front runner exist teammate. But no, he's not the front runner. But he has made what listen this was a one man race for a bit for harden. I would say in the month of December Jaanus in January made it a two-man race. And Paul George is in route to making the three men raise. I mean, I I talked to end Tonio Daniels last night who works with the thunder and the pelicans actually he made the case that he thinks Paul George. Is above harden? But right behind Jaanus. I think what is what I do. Think is going to happen is as people get tired of talking about hardened streak which got extended last night, but people don't care anymore. Like, it's old news at this point. Just like Russell Westbrook won MVP for Avidan triple double. It's now done it back to back years since nobody cares anymore. People are going to start to focus more. And maybe rightfully so on the two way part of this discussion people are going to focus on the team wins and the defensive numbers and those elevate Paul George now, they also elevate Jaanus, but they elevate Paul George, and they put harden in a clear third now, I don't think hardness third. I think Johnson harden the top two but Paul George career high in points career high in rebounds career high in assist-per-game career high in three point percentage he is having his career year. And so and the team is winning a very high level, and none of those mentioned his defensive impact, which is elite. So yeah, if it's a three man race he's there, but he's not the lead. At the moment. So let me ask you this. What if the thunder finished with the best record in the west, then we consider Paul George a little more. Nick talked about this race the three three horse race that we have if if that was to happen. That mean these last twenty six games, they would be playing amazing basketball. So there's enough games left in the schedule a third of the season that yes, Paul George could overtake them. But those defense of things we'll have to be baked in there. And I think Nick makes a great point because we've seen this happen before one guy's having outstanding season. By the time. We get to win to really MVP. You get tired of having the conversation. So there becomes some type of fatigue over that person who happens to be the front runner. But when you look at okay, see what they're doing thirty seven wins at the all star break. That's outstanding. So we also have to give him credit for helping. Okay. Be one of the top teams. If they if they were the number one seed in the west he continued since January nineteenth average and thirty six game forty nine percent from the. Feel like those are amazing numbers and what he's doing on the defensive and I in steals second in deflections and the way he plays like I believe he's going to be right there in the conversation. But if they were to finish a head of Golden State number one in the west Paul George would be meant the darker. He would win the MVP if they if they get all the way to the one seat. I think he could get all the way to the one spot in the MVP. I also think he's got a real shot at defensive player of the year this year. We you've talked about it how given LeBron's time. Missed. He is staring at first team. All NBA is a forward something that there's only been one spot open for the last decade. Plus because LeBron look like he and Jaanus, but I do want to I just want to remind the audience a bit on the ark of Paul George's career because I'm glad we finally got to a place that looked like we were destined to get to their back in two thousand fourteen Miami heater defending champs and they're playing for the second straight year. The indianapolis. The Indiana Pacers in the conference finals game five elimination game for the Pacers. Paul George goes, I with LeBron James froze up thirty six six two in six had just turned twenty four years old. And every that was the game where LeBron dapper them up at mid court after a end of quarter shot. Now, they ended up losing the next game. The heat go onto the NBA finals, we thought okay, Paul George is the next superstar a few weeks later, shattered his leg. And then we thought okay. What will it do to his career? And now he's gotten to the place. It looked like he was going to get to a twenty five. Now, he's gotten to the place that look like who's going to get to in twenty fifteen when he missed that full year. I'm I'm so happy for him, and he has been so validated. In his decision to stay Russ's been so validated. In his putting his arms around him and taking a backseat that he deserves to be in this level of discussion Yonathan hardened just to me are still having better year. And that's the reason why. Rush should be saying things like that about Paul George, and you make a point if they were able to get that question hadn't been posed to me, man. I've already talked about that. Well, what if okay see finishes number one? Then he he would have to be in that consideration. And right now as I stayed a couple of days ago. He's the best two way player in basketball. He's going to be first team all NBA LeBron's not gonna make it. All right. He's getting ready to to take that spot. Not because we'll bronze having a bad year is because he's having a spectacular. You're not clay, not Kawai a right? Paul George national K D. No, absolutely, not Katie. We went through a stretch this season. We weren't talking about the thunder. We're talking that everyone else except for the thunder and slowly crept up to become a very competitive team. How far do you think this team can go with Russ in plano weather, playing obviously Paul George, listen, they obvious. I shouldn't say, obviously, I believe that they like every team in the west. They're ceiling is when you meet Golden State in the play. But that means the conference finals right now, they're three and a half back of the one seat there. I think a game and a half back Denver whether they catch Denver not could they beat Denver in the second round. Of course, they could like you know, what I mean could they could the an could they put a scare into Golden State potentially. Yes. Now, I don't think anybody's beaten, Golden State. But let's just if you're asking me if they were to make the finals could they beat whoever comes out of the east. Yes, they could. I just think Golden State's talk. I need you to look into your crystal ball and tell me house Russ gonna play because Paul George the best player. They have on the team. Russ knows that how is Russ going to play. And how does the shoot the ball and shoot the ball behind art? Because of shoots a decent percentage. Man. They can beat everyone except the way and if the consolation for this year is atop three MVP finished offensive player of the year. And I team all MBA. I mean that is I mean that is a top of the resume line individual season for eight percent of the guy of the season where I decided not to be a free agent. Stay in. Okay. Say absolutely right. So many questions for the crystal ball, but I'm gonna I'll get yours in there at some point hours and hours your group. Coming out for the Lakers making the right call seeking with Luke Walton. That's ahead. Join Valentine's Day guests Super Bowl champ. Chris kenny. Valentine's my perfect gift big box of chocolates. Let's see what are you say? Just say that I'm Sarah, FOX chock lifeguard. I really hope that was not about to call Chris box. Oh. I wouldn't have been Chris handle your box chocolate things. Loosed debated quarterback coming out of the draft next here. We'll be Murray Murray announced he was choosing full of baseball last week despite his rising draft stock many doubted his ability to thrive dude, his diminutive stature his new agent. Eric Burkhard had a message for those doubters yesterday. Baller is not some little shrimp. They're making people have in one hundred and seventy one hundred eighty pounds this kid ways to five yesterday. The F up these days in age of old NFL dinosaurs. And scout the sit back and talk about what players keep new OTT that keys not this. He's not that those are the losers. I mean, sorry, that's what it is. You want all your requirements and all of that? That's not what the NFL game is today. All right. Who is he comparing to maybe the Paxton Lynch is and the Joe flacco and all those tall guys. It didn't quite work out there in Denver. Chris Kenny, what do you make of what collars agent had to say? Carlos Asian is doing what an agent does. Asian is basically a glorified salesman. He's trying to sell him to the fan bases of perspective teams that are that are thinking about drafting him. But he's also trying to explain why the criticism. Kyla Murray is not fair. I completely agree with them. I mean in terms of the way we look at the prototype for the quarterback position. I think we gotta just a little bit CeCe based on how the rules are now in today's game all of its landing toward the offense. Particularly protecting the quarterback. Whether he's in the pocket or outside the pocket. I mean, we've seen quarterbacks that are more slight stature have success. I mean, two of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL or right around sixty toll that being drew Brees. And Russell Wilson. Yeah. We saw Baker Mayfield had outstanding see rookie season breaking the rookie touchdown passing record. He's coming from the same offense. That calamari is coming out of. Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. If you look at Baker mayfield's last season in college and comparison to what Kyla Murray did last year. I mean, the numbers are really similar. I mean, if you were going to say one quarterback had the edge would probably give it the column or just what he added in the ground game. So I look at this and say you have to rethink the conventional norms regarding the quarterback position just based on today's rules. And when I looked at the tape for Murray, I see a productive football player. I don't just see an athlete playing quarterback see quarterback. That's happens to be an athlete, and that comes from a guy who made his living in the trenches as a how tall you can't say six eight plan defensive tackle. So if it was going to be a guy against him. It would be a guy like Chris Canty played in the trenches. He's not gonna build throw it around me. He's not going to build do certain things within the pocket. So for me. That's a tremendous endorsed into Attia port the quarterback in the NFL that lead and batted passes rate last season just happened to be the quarterback got traded to Denver Joe flacco how tall. Does he says check exactly so I mean, there is no correlation between quarterbacks height and batted passes. I think that's one of those miss that. We have to dispel can't hold on JoJo. I disagree with that. Last point. There is a coral just because Joe flacco is bad enough to hear he can't take advantage of his height. Doesn't mean shorter quarterbacks aren't more likely to have pass as bad at the line of scrimmage. I I'm not saying into one to one it's not a direct correlation like that. But you are more likely to struggle throwing over your offensive linemen and the defensive lineman's hands raised their shorter. You are additionally you're going to have to throw with more into patient because they're going to be more blind spots. When receivers coming across the field that you simply can't see I I respect what the agent is doing, and I agree with you entirely. This is good agent and a grade aging, and he say any way to oh five. Listen, you know, why I said he weighed one ninety five because that's what university Oklahoma told me. You know, why I said he's under five ten because that's what the university of Oklahoma told me and. While he can gain weight between college and the pros, he ain't going gain height, except for the hair, and that doesn't count so this he would be this is a fact not an opinion. He if he's successful. He would be shortest six Cecil quarterback and NFL history. I just need to see it. I I just I for me to be willing to spend forget a first round pick a top ten pick our talking about him a top five pick. Maybe sit discussion was could he go one overall? I can't use that type of pick on someone who would be the first person to ever do something. And so I like I said before I am rooting for him. And I thought he was on electrifying college player. I've never seen it translate in the NFL. What pick was Johnny Manziel, Johnny? It was in the twin twenty-second believe. Okay now. Johnny manziel. The only thing stop Johnny was his personality from plan in delete. That's the only thing if he didn't have the struggles off the field. Johnny Manziel will be. Having NFL career. I believe Kyle is a better football player than him. I just I don't think age is doing a good job. He mentioned the weight and everything. No. He needs to stop talking need to shut up because we got a job to do. And we're going to criticize every college player because our job once they stop when they finish the national championship the bowl series where they finish their last game. Our job is to tell people what they can do. And what they can't do and you seem to be fine with that. When we told people about Johnny Manziel, and we hype Johnny Manziel where he shouldn't have been in the first round. He should have been a second round pick with the character flaws the bad things that he did off the field that the lack of end of the pimple all the things that he did lead ISM that he. Oh, man. I mean, the privileged that. He he was expecting when when he came in the pro football. He shouldn't have been I first round pick. But when you represented him, and we say good things about him. And he was short and Cuyler does have a better body. He's a little bit shorter. Johnny Manziel and has a better throwing motion then Johnny Manziel. He throws more over the top and has better than dissipation than Johnny Mozelle. Johnny Manziel, and he hadn't have all these things off the field. So for me he is a first round pick. And if the Asian just shuts up and let us do our job because that is our job to build a pick apart all these players and tell you what they did in college, and what will not transfer and what will transfer to the NFL game. And I do believe he will be starting quarterback. Because a venture someone is going to build a do it. And if they hadn't changed the rules. I would be like, yeah, I need to see someone do it. But I believe he is the guy this to your point. I think the time and hasn't never been more right for quarterback of this stature to be able to come into the league. League and have success in Nick, I know you push back a little bit on the point. I tried to make about quarterbacks heightened a it passes. But if you look at the quarterbacks that coming out this year in a couple of rounds guys that it'd be considered a first second round pick. I mean last season Daniel Jones from six five at twelve passes. Drew lock was six four had eight batted passes. Kinda Murray was tied with Dwayne Haskins for five batted passes into Wayne Haskins six three. So I mean, there's something to the kids game. Whether it's him being able to use creative arm angles or being able to find windows within the pockets of the liberty ball down the field something to its offense of line in football last year at college football. Okay. And that's an NFL of top of line and of size. So I mean, you look at all of those different factors. It's not like Kyla Murray is just dealing with this heightened now he's been this hype his entire life. So if he's been able to overcome it and play at a high level and college football and get the Heisman. I like to believe that the kid would be able to adjust once we get to the pro level and overcome whatever deficiencies that is height might present. Seems like we come out here every day. We keep making either an excuse for him or pimp bumping him up to say he's going to make it and be successful. It doesn't seem like his draft. Stock is falling. It seems like teams are very interested. Maybe the giants made a comment that they? If his maybe. Tons of Asian need to do. Right. That says it says stop talking is what it says Chris hands it to very evil throughout. The course. I'm the show. We'll see a little bit later on the show coming up the Lakers making the right sticking with lukewarm next. One basketball, the lovely syracus dunk as Sarah great to see you guys properly dressed, color wise, properly dressed, lovely. What about surround the Valentine's road? Yep. Of course, purple to that listen there and love that time of people in the world and on behalf of them. I'm not, but I'm wearing. The show. Out of single people out there. By yourself. I'm not by winning blue doing not much. Let's about the Lakers who enter enter got the don't talk card they enter the all star break in tenth place in the west three games out of the last playoff spot. The young guys aren't improving the rotation isn't gelling and as a result a number of people have speculated including this desk that Luke Walton job may be in jeopardy. But according to a report Walton will definitely finish the season and has the full support of the team's front office. Sarah bail me out here. What do you make this decision? I I like the decision, and I understand that the narrative since the start of the season is the fact that Luke Walton is not Magic Johnson, rob Pelinka's guy. So that has always been a topic of discussion. When Luke Walton is brought up in the success of this team. It's not Luke Walton spoilt that Rajon Rondo got injured injured. The Lonzo ball got injured that LeBron James. I mean, this is a Laker seem that was fourth in the Western Conference before. Lebron James got hurt. So when you look at the rotation when you look at some of the inconsistencies, that's a big part of it. And speaking of the roster Luke Walton didn't put together this roster. And so there are a variety of things that I understand the argument. I understand you look at that loss against Lanta, the poor body language the way in which team didn't seem to have the right approach going into the all star break as you would expect given where they are in the standings. But I to me I think Luke Walton is the guy that you let finish out the season. And if you want to make some decisions reevaluate things after the year, but but right now, I like the fact that we'll see what happens, but that they are saying with I agree with you. I think that they should stay through the season. I think even if you think that Luke is not a good exit those coach if you think that he's not the right guy to develop the young town all those things. I can I can okay, I'm willing to accept those things. But if I'm not a good coach. How do I put together a game plan? For fifty six games where LeBron James out eighteen Rondo who I didn't sign them. They signed them. So I got to come up with the game plan. He misses thirty four game. Lonzo ball still developing. He misses a nother ten games Ingram who still development. I need him to vote more than any other player. He misses Levin. So how come up with a game plan night in and night out where in the in bay, there's not a lot of practice. So how do I come up with something to be able to win games? I've leave almost the best that they can do. Now, the optics at the end that really hurt him when LeBron was out how they couldn't close out games. He didn't come up with the style the younger players not development. All those things man will get you fired in the NBA with LeBron being there, though, let's just let's just put out some patients because that's what Ron would he sign? It's not about all this year. Okay. Well, let's not all this. Let's get through this year. Let's try to be healthy for these last twenty five games. And I believe. That that would be a fair judge of Luke Walton as a head coach I give him one year LeBron James, and I don't give him any more than that. I also think you look at the fact that this team went through this is the first time many of these young players are contending for the playoffs that have expectations of winning of getting to the postseason and their names are on the trading block. You know, when you're going to the trade deadline. I think that was an emotional thing. And I know magic said you're professionals your men, get ready and turn around. Make you a man I think that's easier said than done they had never been through before. And I think that takes toll baby the little tidbit to were not only they part of the men are names were released when it said man, we're getting ready to clean house to build to get AD. Nick, you pointed that out all the time how hard that could be for a young player trying to transition with with LeBron James and having your name in the paper reporters Ashi every that's a tough transition for young player. Besides I just need to grow my game in and continue just about right, really difficult. And you know, who's number one job is to help work them through that the head coach of the team. And you knows no one job. It is to make sure that when your best player is out you at the very least to not lose at home to the Knicks and at home to the Cavs that head coach of the team, and you know, whose job is that the day before the trade deadline when you're playing a pacer seen without its best player to at the very least make sure these guys give them whatever you need to give them to make clear. A this might be your last game with the Lakers. I know he guy. Are worried about that find a way to have your last game with the Lakers be a positive. I have to give you a little resistance. That's not the coach's job when you're on the trading block and people have announced your name. It is not the coach's job in the NBA to get you focused every game. It is the general manager and Magic Johnson's job. When you to that point you need some help from the front office. So I got to build take loot. That is not loops fall. Here's why I think pre-trade deadline. I would say it's the coach's show. It is very difficult for Pelinka or magic who would be the ones trading them away to come in that room and say guys, we still love you, Luke is the credibility say guys I'd keep all of you for up to me. Let's let's as long as we're together. Let's stay together. But let's just assume for a moment, none of this is Luke's poll that Luke is actually an average above average coach that the injuries. It's the Rosh construction all of it. I would go back to last year. What was the single biggest thing the Cavs acquired at the trade deadline? It was not George hill was not. Rodney hood. It wasn't Jordan Clarkson, it was a re engaged reinvigorated. Lebron James, and you didn't make any moves at the deadline. And if sometimes it's got to be casualty, and I don't think Luke Walton is such an asset that you can't risk him being the casualty. If what gets you is playoff. Lebron six weeks early. They need it might get. Lebron? It's not going to get those younger players like how many people in the organization can they really trust. You said, okay. Rob Pelinka's trying to trade. A Magic Johnson's trying to trade them. You said that. Okay. So now, you get fired a guy who who who was in there, tell them. Hey, man. I wish I could keep you got who do they trust man? Those first three years in your career, professionally man are tough like you. My my age might be twenty one. But man inside I'm like seventeen I've been playing a U basketball. I play one year of college. If that, and I'm not ready for this professional life. They've turned us organization over to LeBron James. So man what these young players are going through. It's real and you can see they're not at their best. They're not developing outside of coups. They are not development at the type of rate that you would want young players into me. That's the biggest indictment against Luke the younger players aren't developed. Well, and I also think there has been no real backing of Luke Walton so for these younger players, they're wondering, do I really need to respect you in the same type of what do I really need to take everything that you say with the same amount of engagement because they know that magic Palinka may not be sold on Luke Walton. So I don't think it goes two ways and terms of Walton giving them the same type of encouragement the love all of that. But I also think it's a flip side of things. They don't know if they're going to be here next year. They also don't know if Luke's going to be here, if you go in that locker room and tell them, you know, some the front office wants to trade you. But I want to keep you know, what you tell that young player when I ain't got no say around here. So you talk about losing them. That right there could be the fatal thing to build a loser. I wanna keep you and everything they don't they don't think highly of you. I think highly, but I ain't got no say so be careful in Luke Walton this Pelinka Magic Johnson. They need to have some responsibility in this. Thank you for listening to the first things first podcast. Remember, leave us a review and tell us what you think subscribe to the podcast on apple podcasts and catch us on f s one Monday through Friday, six thirty AM Easter for Chris Carter, Nick, right? Jenna Wolfe so long everybody.

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Hello and welcome to these highly questionable proceedings. That's mean, a kind senior writer for ESPN the magazine. What do you like on the show today? Meena all the elite athletes LeBron Zion. Joe flacco, oh, you're the worst. The also said flacco solve John waste quarterback Ronin. Okay. I have proof of John Elway being a very good quarterback. I have exactly zero proof of him being good at selecting quarterbacks. The biggest success. He has had was Peyton Manning. The worst year we've ever seen from Peyton Manning. A Tim Tibo like year nine touchdown seventeen interceptions resulted in the championship since then he's done nothing but pick bad quarterback of tobacco quarterback. Joe? Flacco is just case keenum by another name. You look at the numbers. Case keenum was just fine last year. Joe flacco has that elite conversation about five years in his past. But he is about five years in his past. So yesterday, we were talking about the possibility that teams might discriminate against Kylo Murray because he's too small. I think John Elway has opposite problem where he doesn't discriminate enough against quarterbacks. Who are really tall. Think about it. Paxton Lynch, six seven Brock Osweiler six seven. Joe flacco. Six six we get it. Elway you have type. And while it's understandable, in some way that he would go for a guy with a proven baseline of competence. I'll be at a low one given his lack of success in drafting in developing quarterbacks as Dan pointed out flat goes, basically been the same as keenum or less years. And if they cut Keenan, which they're probably going to have to do given the cost it'll cost them ten million dollars for a minor upgrade, it's not exactly elite G M ING. Guys. That's right. I know he's next quarterback. Bob LAN is going to be next quarter by he's going to jump from the NBA to the NFL. He had nothing after sing song. Obam? That was where the joke should've ended not in there. Could you just name the tell us person you could think of that? Direct Boba, and he sang it and give me a million dollars ESPN. Is like ruin start to look west or do the rest of the Lakers, your stink of okay? My father's happy. There is celebrating. He can't even get to stink before he started celebrating Meena just realize. Yes, he calls him la- growing. They lose against the God. Awful hawks. Yesterday. People were chanting in the crowd Meena that Koby is better. Kobe is better which is LeBron taking over a franchise where he probably can never be as popular as Kobe even if he does actually win. But given that his injury short-circuited everything this season. I think you're fine. As long as he's healthy the problems start when he's not realize the producers of the show operate under a binary framework where washed is one of just two options. But we're talking about a guy who was out for seventeen gains. And since he's come back has averaged a triple double. He's not his best. He's a little banged up. But he's not the problem on the court. It's off the court where he's the problem, right? Because the reason why the Lakers are in this funk is that they put together a bad roster but role in that this Anthony Davis drama hasn't helped and everyone knows he wants the coach gun. Those are the causes of the Lakers discontent. Not la- groin struggling that. I did I say that. The senate. Brain growing. It doesn't feel good feels uncomfortable doing. But my father's about influence. That's true. Issue of them be right to point that the red for the Celtics. It is so much easier to point at the reps than at a mirror. Joel Embiid does not play well against Al Horford. This disticts are jarring when he was guarded by anyone other than Al Horford over the last fifty two possessions, he made forty eight of those baskets, but when he's playing against Al Horford, he's inefficient on both ends of the court. So what does he do with forty one seconds left in the game? He starts complaining that Al Horford is bothered him too much. He thinks he should have gotten a foul there. And where's the foul? Meaner? Should he have gotten a foul? Feels like. I mean, I mean, okay, fine. Now, I mean, okay fine fair enough. I think Dan's, right. Okay. So yes, that was a foul. He's wrong about that. But he is right about Al Horford. Having 'em beads number forcing him outside forcing to take ton of threes. And that's really the story of why the Celtics are able to beat the Sixers with such regularity. It's all about matchups Horford matches up well against them beat. They're able to hunt out Evan Teijin. Switches get Radic and McConnell limo guys on defense when they want them, even though Philadelphia after the trades is arguably the more talented team the Celtics simply matchup too. Well with them Boston smoked them in the playoffs last year and five games without Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward, they're ten and two in their last twelve against Philadelphia. This ownership extends beyond Horford into this as well. The Celtics have been changing altered this year by the feeling that they had expectations that no one had for them last year once they lost Irving. And once they lost Hayward now filling. Guelfi by virtue of a couple of trades. The expectations have fallen on them when they meet Boston. Boston knows. They have ownership over that team. You send anyone going to say it say what what went on said he Celtics are better without career. Oh, saying that he's father is saying it right there. That's right. That's interesting. That is the message. He gets five has saying okay spoken is his signature phrase. But he got it wrong. There. Was no scumbag, great Louisville, just choke on my father came in angry today at Louisville because Bobby had predicted an enormous upset Louisville overdue pay up twenty three points. Duke was getting slaughtered. People were going to bed saying Duke has a sure loss, and then you get the magical comeback from the novelty team the team that more people are paying attention to than any in this sport. This is about duke's greatness and a panic situation, and it's about Louisville having no answers at the end of the game in a way that looks scared. So after halftime witnessed and Louisville was up by double digits. I check the box score. And the leading score was a guy named Jordan Nora who you may have heard from this guy's lives yesterday in for a fleeting moment, I wondered to myself this whole time have I been sitting next to the most plugged in basketball analyst at the network, and then the comeback happened. It was immediately disabused of that terrifying. Notion. Look coach case at after the game that Duke plate spectacular for. Ten minutes. But Louisville one the rest of the game. And he was right, but Louisville has played so bad for those ten minutes. Like nobody wanted to touch the ball bad. And you can't do that against Duke. What this is the thing. The talent of four ju ten minutes of explosive fury from professional basketball players is scary for kids Duke isn't playing kids. They're playing professionals who happen to have to go to college. And when the talent reaches the ceiling, the ten minutes of Duke basketball that is the best. They can do is the best. Anyone can do. Did you see the image of Zion? Williamson holding a basketball like peaches. Dense fastballs his fingertips end look at that. Poor lewis. That's right. That's right. Look at that face zone in on that face the face that you have when you realize that you've looked into the mirror and the barber has made that your haircut, you know, who that is who's that poppy, Jordan Nora. Oh, that's right by the expert again. Idea that with Jordan Nuwara? Do you buy that cliff? Kingsbury wants to kick just rustling. Okay. We are already tired of this story. Are we not giving that it just happened a couple of days ago when everyone chewing on this thirty five and forty coach run out of Texas Tech who now has a professional job and headset in his past that he would take color Murray. Number one clip Kingsbury is proven exactly nothing in the NFL. But he's telling you here he's committed to the other guy the quarterback that he inherited our feelings towards jazz heaven, waned or changed or anything. I get we with I take. And so there's gonna be a million scenarios or when there's three months they're gonna come up. But no Joshua's our guy. Tyler is a tremendous player. And I said that was being very complementary before we played an opponent. And I understand the sound bite. But by said there'll be a ton of scenarios that come up before we get to the draft. First of all, it's big yourself. I love this story. I am ready to break down. What he said the way he said, the Tony use Josh's our guy that didn't sound particularly committal to me. That's like asking someone a relationship if they're going to get married, and they say those things are going well answer the question cliff because until you do people are going to keep asking you about Kyle Lowry. Not just because you love them. But because he'd be a great fit and your offense in Arizona could really use a draft assets. They'd get from trading. Josh Rosen really scolded you cliff on on national television. 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And we cover the hell and a seven year olds who are really abusive to other seven year olds around here. So last time we checked in with blaze. This is what he was doing in the competition. Yes. Slightly more. He's got muscles. Oh, that's clearly he is playing against. That doesn't even make the competition. It's just what are you supposed to do? So anyway, that's when we checked in with them last time. What's he doing? Now. Yeah. Hence, the nickname blaze. That's right. Okay. And that hidden blue is my entire childhood that right? There is all of my childhood right there in bloom as trailing air. So producers, I know I was critical of you either. But I'm really going to need you to juxtapose that with the video of Dan running on the beach. What I think he like next to me? I would smoke plays. I could see that time get blazed between me to my scream and see if I don't put them in some sprinkled on the top. That's a challenge. Do you question if these impressive athletic achievement? Okay. We were just looking at the achievements of blazin me chasing an ice cream truck. I believe I am qualified to answer. This is impressive achievement. Let's see what we have here. Oh, no, no, no. Hey. Four full with. There's no one who can just feel. Why is it? Good first question. But let's say to the one at hand in. Yes. This should be an Olympic event at called breaking your back. That's correct. That's when it goes wrong. That's what the bronze medal is dead. Do your question. If this will be a good story to tell. All right. Let's go out to Italy. And see if this is a story worth telling. Random skin what's going or going to come on? What is coming up? You read the dread trauma, like a hill or something. No, don't turn around. Okay. Are we sure that the person at the end of that camera has a stormy and lips left to tell it telling it in court because suing whoever built, this course. Oh my God. He could have been worse. At least there were no cars on that road. Real bad. Did you get candidates cars? Man. That's true ten or fifteen cars wouldn't that worse? So he got lucky my father really zig while we were asking he got lucky. The question that this will be a good story detail again, my stomach hurts from the last two things we have shown you people being flippant and reckless about throwing their life to the wind. What do we have now? Long. Oh, no. Oh thought he was going to slide effortlessly down that. And instead he just landed a bunch of shattered glass. Escalated quickly. No one. Quickly. Did you get that America? She wants credit for her joke. She wouldn't let them in in the secret. What what's the secret that was you? Good that your hat. Same build really same build. It was then okay? We can't do better than that. Joe fits, hey. That was Dan. Questionable. These broke deaths from the clear Lander hotel beautiful south beach, Miami. The plane again that these always lethal spoon Zee on oh was that a z for some reason after eight years, we changed it to the letter z you tell us what to watch on television. Tonight. We tell you for intrigue. Tonight on the MS g network seventy Sixers Knicks mareo has own yet. Poppy that New York knick who calls himself, the Croatian Kobe. He plays for the Knicks. The Knicks are God awful. They were playing against the godawful. Cavs the other day. Let's check in with the. Oh. Oh, look at that. Waterlogged remains of the Andre Jordan on the next time. Number one, the clippers were fighting over the hundred Jordan remember that that was funny. They barred the door Blake Griffin put a chair on the doorknob over two hundred Jordan meaner. You intrigued. A highlight of the Knicks season. They're gonna put it on a poster and Kevin Durant inexplicably. You're gonna be photo shopped in the background bop reviewing all CCD of her in to guy. You kidding me? Muddy has Sonia. You know, the biggest loved the no play crush. You has you know, money really think guys that makes it happen. You know, those seven thing gets up. They Knicks have Los this threat. You know that they're coming to an end because marines helluva game. He's going to he's going to four hundred thirty five points on his coin to show the Knicks fan. I hate got one it up on the seventy six going through the second one and then roll Badio has on. Yeah. And then you'll never forget. Oh, okay. My father just a little bonus sound at the end of a segment. Tonight on NBA league pass bucks Pacers. You may think to yourself that the bucks are coached by a man who looks like a clown whatnot wearing makeup. However, they are coached by someone who has them with the best record in the NBA. And here, of course, without further ado is the Greek freak their best player in commercial airline safety. Please musique about while secret. It can be fostered and unsalted like this. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Peter King (01-07-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Peter King (01-07-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log from the Mercedes men K. Here's Dan Patrick great to be back. Great to be back. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart. Good time away refreshed ready to go as we get the stretch drive leading up to the Super Bowl Pebble Beach after that Dan in the damage, Dan Patrick show. Twenty eighteen seem like the year of we would finally be putting that saying defense wins championships to rest, right? Remember when the Kansas City Chiefs and the Los Angeles Rams played and we went on that's the future of the NFL. And I went really they can do it does everybody is that everybody able to play like Golden State dozen the NBA like, yeah. That's the way it's going to be everybody's going to be doing that team scoring at a record pace. Then all of a sudden things started a slowdown in December. And then January hit wild card weekend. No team scored more than twenty four points. What about those big passing numbers? We saw sees a long gone replaced by the run and defense. I don't know if the trend continues, but it was certainly interesting to see how these teams were winning this past weekend. The next round of the playoffs. You're going to have some great quarterback play. You got Brady Philip rivers, Patrick Mahomes. Andrew luck. Drew Brees, the playoff hero, Nick foles. So is the passing game gonna come back. Or the style of play. We saw during wild card weekend here to stay. If you're a fan of football strategy should be a lot of fun. Even if you don't have the high scoring games that we got used to during the regular season. And there was a number that stood out to me. So the start of the offense is gone wild. At least that's what I thought the regular season was going to be that teams were scoring an average of twenty three points per game this season regular season in the playoffs. The numbers fell to eighteen points per game for the eighteen playing over the weekend. Will that continue? I think you're going to have some offenses act like they did during the regular season. But I've said it before and continue to say it you have to be able to run the ball, and you have to be able to stop somebody. That's going to be somehow some way that will find its way into the equation of who wins the Super Bowl. It does every year time-tested and you can throw the ball. But it'll come down to can you? Play defense. Can you make a big stop? Can you get up third in you know, to buy running the football. It's going to happen. And it'll be happening to these teams even Kansas City. Even the Rams teams that like to throw the football. They're going to be able to they're going to have to be able to play defense. Leo look at the Cowboys. They play defense. They run the football Seattle tried to do that against douse. I've surprised that. Russell Wilson didn't have the ball in his hands. More the Chicago Bears. Tariq Cohen touch the ball four times can have that happen. I didn't think the bears defense was great. I didn't think the clo- Mak had a great game. Nick foles continues to do it to mazing really is. It's amazing. And I had full confidence in him on that lasts drive sitting there with friends LEGO. He'll lead them down the score touch him. This isn't a big deal to him. And I still remember when I was up on the podium with him and he was getting the Super Bowl trophy. And he's there with his daughter, and there wasn't any hoopla Yellen screaming. Nothing. He was just like. Okay. All right. I'm supposed to be up. Here. Got my daughter with me. She got headphone headphones. So I just beat Brady. Yeah. Okay. Got a couple of questions for me. Okay. He's not worried. He wasn't worried at all. And here they go into New Orleans, and I know that in New Orleans favored by nine we're going to go. They they blew them out during the regular season and playoff football is just so different now regular season. It's like, okay, we got this game. And then we got a game after this next weekend. You don't have that in the playoffs. Seven comes down to micromanaging. You know, the ravens the ravens can't win with Lamar Jackson were they can win during the regular season. And then in the postseason, they ran against you know, least tried to San Diego defense that had a great game plan unbelievable game plan, and they held on for your life. I don't know if this is you know, a referendum on Mark Jackson being able to play and be in the future. I. You're asking a lot of a rookie quarterback. And I think that we've gotten program to these rookie quarterback's. You gotta go out there. And you got to throw four thousand yards in twenty five thirty touchdowns. It's not that easy. It really is not that easy and Lamar Jackson. He was good during the regular season. Not great but good and Baltimore played well controlled the clock. But at halftime, paulie. And Seton we're talking about DO put in Joe flacco Joe flacco, I don't think would have beaten the chargers. I don't now would I have put him in to start the second half. The only reason why said yes responding to those guys was during the regular season. I said at some point they'll bring in Joe flacco to win again. And I thought that this was going to be the opportunity there. But if you're going to commit to Lamar Jackson, I can't bring in Joe flacco. Because Joe flacco is gone. I don't know John Harbaugh's back, but you've committed to Lamar Jackson San Diego to great game plan. They tried to limit the number of opportunities. He was going to have running the football. And they did it. It was just a good game plan there. But you know, there's a lot of we love to do this. You're assessing team you're going on new the cold sake. Now there that you can't sit. He doesn't wanna face the colts. I mean, they have to. But that's they they would have preferred facing the Texans. And by the way, we'll get to the Texans in a moment the artist formerly known as the Texans. But the colts what they do how they do it. And you're seeing Andrew luck played a very high level. I think what happens is you've you. We miss out on some of the other good stories with the colts. The defense is very good bear good. And you got running back. Nobody talks about. And you're Russian front and fifty yards against you know, the Texans. And I thought MAC look great in. This is a team that is playing extremely well. And give a whole lot of credit Andrew lucked because who knew what was going to happen. The start of this season if he was going to be able to be anywhere near what he wants was. So there's a lot of things that we decide on during the regular season. We lot of things we decide on after the first playoff game. Now can the colts do this again in Kansas City. Absolutely, absolutely. And wouldn't be surprised. Somebody gets shocked every time we never fail. Somebody gets shocked and somebody's gonna get shocked probably this weekend. But at some point there will be one of those results where you go. Wow. I didn't see that one coming not surprised at all. I thought all four road teams. We're going to win this weekend. I thought Seattle was going to beat downs. I thought Russell Wilson show had the ball in his hands a lot more. But Zeke Elliott game credit. You know made big plays. We'll talk to Jalen Smith. The Cowboys linebacker a little bit later on. Anthony, Lynn the chargers. Head coach will join us. We'll check in with David Pollock covering the national title game tonight. Peter King from NBC sports. Pete will join us coming up in a little bit. He was there for the ravens chargers game. Clemson Alabama tonight. Get over in any other sport. Don't you want the two best teams to face each other? Right. Okay. It's predictable. Do something about it. All right, either don't watch or maybe take your program down, you know, another notch to division one AA. What do they call him that now FCS or F B S or F something football subdivision called something something? Yes. But. You want that in any other sport you go? Boy, we want the two best teams to face off. Why is it in college? Football you go. I'm not interested as seen this before you got more pros potential pros playing tonight than any other game that you would have this year. You got two great coaches. You got a coach who's going for history here. And I don't know. I get the where we're kind of apathy attic when it comes to this. But my point is, you know, if you don't want to watch don't watch there's nothing I can do to dress it up saying, you know, Lawrence is going to be the number one overall pick and a couple of years you've got great defensive lineman their strategy here. Two coaches going against each other a coach at Clemson who may eventually take over for saving at Alabama. I mean, there's a lot of storylines here. If you if you're interested in my problem is the timing this. I'm football doubt over the weekend. I mean, that's that's a lot of football. That's a hard one to go. Hey, hon. Another game coming up tonight. What Monday who's playing on Monday? Well, it's the national title game. Wait, I thought you said North Dakota state was the national title game. Well that was four different title FCS F. What what did you say to me? There's a lot of hours of football, sixteen hours. And I'm not in counting pre-game, you know. I'm like, I didn't even do that is like a no not watching pre-game now, but watch a lot of football. Plus when you're on vacation kind of hard to get wait. You're on vacation. I know it's still my job though. Thank god. My son was there because he'll be like we watching the game like. Yeah. Let's watch the game son father sometime there, by the way, the program brought to you by Vic sign X nasal spray. The dreaded stuffy nose this cold and flu season and couple of sine X nasal sprays. And it works in seconds to clear your nose and lasts for up to twelve hours. Be ready when congestion strikes signings nasal spray use hence directed. Good to see the boys when I came back. I'm trusting that everything was good Mannix. Didn't screw anything up or Ross Tucker. Doug godly? How's your house? You're mine was good. Pretty good tan. You you look robust robot. Wait fat. No, no, no. That's rotund. Oh, nobody. You got a little color in your face. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Any highlights said he celebrity sightings, not highlights in my hair. No, I didn't. I didn't do that. Just the sun celebrity sighting. Yes. Oh, I I had a huge celebrity side John Malkovich. John malkovich. Literally huge. She literally huge. Yeah. A huge Kunal. Taller. Ing. Same size. Same height. Former first round, Bradley. Yes. Shawn bradley. Oh, you didn't. Yes. I did do you at the bar together. No, no. I don't think Sean drinks. Well, he was just walking through the airport, and there's not many guys you notice them. Exactly. There's not many guys on the face of the earth who are that tall. And I just see him walk by. And I go, Sean, and like, I didn't even yell it because he was with his family went, Sean. And then he didn't turn around and go Dan that thought that Sean Brennan they turned on ago. Sean goes, hey, Dan. I did a story on him at the mothership when he was in college at BYU, he was in Australia, and he was going door to door. He was proselytizing. He's a Mormon. So I did a story on seven foot six guy going door to door in a suit and tie in Australia and met his wife and his kids at the airport. Hadn't seen him in a long long time. Yes, mclovin. Did you post rise him? Did you know? No, I did not get a lot of posters has more than any more than Jordan. Yes. I also was on location, but did not see the rock and Jason state them. Oh, wow. I guess there's another fast and furious furious, sir or fasters, but you're saying like you didn't plan to be there. I know how badly you wanna cameo and fast and furious. I do love fast and furious. I was on board early where you got beautiful women and great cars. I'm all in who cares about the actor at this point is like slow and measure, they're all like fifty five years old. And it's okay VIN diesel can still bring it when he needs to. But the I was on location. I just didn't see them, but the the rock and Jason stefon sources close to be telling me, we're on location. But it was good good vacation too long though. Like at some point, you just go I gotta get back. Strangest that's going to sound to be on vacation and in a beautiful place. And then I just went and done. You don't seem like a guy who could sit on the beach all day just handing doing nothing. No, I sat on the beach reading a book about d day. So that the character in animal house. No, no, not not not d day. They did the unofficial auto by. Daniel Simpson day. Yes. Yes. Fritzy? When did he hit you when you started getting jumpy, we realized I should be very relaxed right now. But I feel like I'm supposed to be somewhere else or not about four days ago. You know, like when you guys came back to work, I did feel just a little guilty. And then I just had another my tie forgotten man. I should have another place. What's your go to when you're at the clips so bar wherever you're at. What was the go-to? Yes. See what's in a my tie? I have no idea. Yeah. I don't know either. But that's always like a drink. That's thrown out. Like my time. It's a rum baseless. Sure. I don't remember. I never made one pineapple situation. Probably really sure I had Margaritas though, some jalapeno Margaritas. So let's go. But now that we get ready. I'm good. Yep. Oh, my tied dark rum, orange juice triple sec lime juice etcetera etcetera. Okay. ATC UT. All right. So I gave you the guest list, and we'll talk to Peter King coming up here in a little bit. We'll get to your phone calls best and worst to the weekend. As we always do every Monday. I still believe your chance to win eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Say good morning to our TV partners. And that's direct TV audience channel two thirty nine and the NBC sports network are great radio Phileas around the country. So we'll get phone calls. Peter king. We'll discuss playoff football with him coming up. We're back after this. So the damn Patrick show. Every car comes with its share stories, right? That ding and your bumper when you nervously picked up a first date or maybe the luxury package, you got after a big promotion. 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That was tipped and nobody wants to like allow that to be the story to be the narrative here it's easier to say, well, he missed it. Again. He hit the post. Okay. The ball was grazed by defensive player and give parkey credit though, he hung in there. And I've been there in some of the most emotional situations ever. Okay. When Bill Buckner had the ball go through his legs. He sat there and answered every question. I was right there. Mitch Williams when he gave up the World Series winning home run to Joe Carter answered every question sat there. Okay. Those are a whole lot bigger than a first round playoff game. Here's Cody parkey. The bears kicker. Facing the media last night. I feel terrible. What the team down? That's all me. So I have to own it out to be a man. And you know, it's unfortunately, unfortunately, that's the way it and went the today. Consoled you hoping that situation that you're just no, of course. I mean, that's the worst one of the worst feelings in oil to to let your team. So I feel terrible. You know, a continue to put things in perspective continue just put my best foot forward. And and just sleep sleep at night, knowing that I did everything about power this week to go and make that kick and for whatever reason at the crossbar and the upright, and I still can still couldn't do it. Okay. He didn't give up the touchdown golden take Diddy. See the one that couldn't put pressure on Nick foles all game. All right. I mean was he blocking the guy who tipped the kick? So put it in perspective here. I know that we wanted to just put all the blame. It's easier to put the blame on him. He hit the post how many times during the regular season. He did. Absolutely. But but this is a team that Robbie gold used to be great pro bowler, team-leading go you bring him in and parking had made three. Okay. Can I can I complain about the red zone offense. They're clo MAC didn't have much of a game last night, golden Tate. You'll out him to score the touchdown fourth down. But he wants to pile on this kid. There's other people there should be other people that we're talking about. But this is easy. All you hit the post and then NBC set it up nicely Allen, Chris set it up nicely. This is what he had done. This is what he did. And you know, give credit to the eagles. Peterson calls the time out. You know, they try to ice him a little bit. He had made it. And then this one comes back. But you know, there's a few things that should be pointed out give him credit. He stood in there. And he answered those questions any didn't make excuses, and he could have but other people net Chicago Bears team, they deserve some blame to. And that ball got tipped to what degree how it affected it. I don't know. But it did get tipped and Cody parkey is not the reason why the bears did not advance. All right. We'll get to your phone calls. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address teepee, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter handle at teepee show as we make way for. For Peter King. You can check out peace NFL column. Football morning in America. Every Monday exclusively on NBC sports dot com. Pete in attendance for the chargers. Ravens yesterday. Pete. Good morning. How are you? Dan. How are you doing today? I'm a little fired up over a couple of things, you know, the Cody parkey thing, and you know, that we love to blame. And it's it's an easy story. Right. And you know, the bears didn't lose because of him. And I think that sometimes we're unfair. When it comes down to these one time only situations, and you know, so I felt bad for him. So I I think the one thing an an look I'm part of the media madness. I named him go to the week. You ought to be able to make a forty three yard field goal like at that. But I also think that you know, I think philosophically much much much bigger picture. Why do we watch sports K wh-? We want sports because there's a chance that you could win. There's a chance you could lose, you know, nothing other than the old extra point really is is just about automatic. And you know, you don't. Watch sports because you know, what's going to happen. You watch sports because you don't know what's going to happen. And so you know, if guy misses a forty three yard field goal. Yeah. He probably should've made the field goal, but the bottom line, and this is that it is a sports event, you're witnessing this you you should be able to have the maturity to look at it and be really really angry and not go crucify this kid for for for missing a kick. And so look, I I mean, you know, he deserves blame, you know, either for not getting a kick high enough or or whatever. But let's let's all simmer down a little bit about about neyland the guy to the cross for crying out loud. You were in attendance for the chargers ravens. What did you make of that game from start to finish? You know, I thought one of the best playoff coaching jobs. I've seen as break us Bradley that offensive coordinator of the chargers who went into Anthony Lynn at the beginning of last week, the head coach of the chargers and said look coach, I I we we we didn't do a great job on him last time. Nobody's been doing a great job playing them conventionally. So you know, the chargers who already had some injuries at at at the linebacker position. Gus Bradley, basically said I wanna play seven linebackers. I want our safeties to drop down and play linebackers and we're gonna play all of our corners in the game. And Dan one of the funny things is at the end of every game. You get this thing from the PR staff of whatever game you're at. It's called the official NFL play by play. And I looked at it in the first play of the game for San Diego. Chargers. All the guys on their DB's four defensive linemen. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. And and so that was a really smart thing to do. Because from the first snap of the game. When Derwin James was there spying? Lamar Jackson and nailing them for one yard loss. You just sorta knew that this was going to be a different game. Now, I think they played extremely well on defense and the the ravens almost came back. But it never really felt like they were gonna come back. You know and Lamar Jackson's got a long way to go in the passing game to make people fear him throwing the ball. And that's what he's gonna have to work on this off season. Would you put in flacco at any point yesterday? I probably would have late in the third quarter y-, you know, you could see that that there was no question that horrible. Was sort of you know, on the edge of a sword there. But you know, I think that that Harbaugh basically said, okay, look, you know, flacco hasn't played in two months. He's not gonna be able to move around will against this this voracious defense. So I think his thought was these guys are killing Lamar Jackson there. They stack them seven times as it turns out and flacco I think he thought was going to be too much of a sitting. Flacco is not back next year is John Harbaugh back in old Moore. My gut feeling is. Yes. But I don't think anybody knows that right Now, Dan because it's going to be a very interesting question when Steve shoddy realized that John Harbaugh, and and might he he very well might sign a contract. But I think this Pete Carroll contract in is going to have some bearing. I think the pe- karaoke contract is gonna have some bearing on on what happens to her the rumor eleven million dollar a year contract. Now, there are eight coaches in the league, including harbor will make at least eight million dollars between eight and whatever Belichick makes twelve fifteen hundred even know what it is. You know, like players, contracts coaches contracts around publicized. So I think that Harbaugh rightfully so with look at Pete Carroll's deal and said, hey, I've been here longer. I one more. We've each one a super. Bowl. We better be talking. And again, I have not talked to John Harba this. I'm just trying to read into who harbor is he's a tremendously competitive person. And I think he would look at at at that contract and say, you know, let's start at eleven million for me too. Talking to Peter King. You can read his column every Monday, it's football morning in America. You can see that exclusively on NBC sports dot com. Couple of the things here with the eagles advancing in Nick foles, Nick foles, and how available is Nick foles going to be or how costly is he going to be for a team. That is a fantastic question. And then I wrote this this morning. Somebody wrote me a letter. I I answer Email in my column every week and somebody wrote to me and said what basically what's the end game with foale's. Can he win enough to win this job? And I I said look I talked to somebody last week was very very close to this situation. And it was said that that he thinks that the people in thority the eagles should go to Nick foles and ask him this question. You know, you you you're not like every other quarterback it you've seen. What happens when you have a chance to go to a bad team? Because obviously he knows what happens when he went to the Rams, and they were bad. It was a nightmare almost quit football. So I I wonder whether the eagles will attempt at least for one more year to make him. Mario no Rivera who the era make him the highest paid relief pitcher in football. And again, he's got an option next year team option for twenty point six million. They could keep them if they wanted to. But I think the understanding is I've always thought that if Nick foles really wanted to go that they probably wouldn't stand in his way. But who knows they may decide that we've got some value here that we'd like to trade, I think it's very much up in the air. And I think the eagles are very glad they don't have to decide this until after the season. And you have this reversed where you have your backup making a whole lot more than your starter. Because Wednesday believe is going to make seven hundred thousand next year. So normally it's the other way around and you have that luxury. But I'm wondering Nick foles is in, you know, improving his trade value with every performance in feels like if you're Jacksonville or some, you know, some other team you might be going you don't want. Maybe maybe that's our bridge quarterback for the next. Couple years we can bring him in. So I'm kind of curious is being I'll tell you this. Jacksonville's the perfect team. Absolutely perfect team for Nick foles, if he were to actually move on because they have a ready made defense they sort of had a blip on their screen this year. If I were the Jaguars, I would be putting all my eggs in Nick foles basket and not maybe not just as a bridge quarterback guys just going to be thirty years old next year. And and again, you you'll see what happens maybe it'll turn out that he should be a backup quarterback, or or you know, may maybe maybe it'll turn out that you know, that if somebody shows so much faith in him that he that he won't be what he was in Philadelphia that it was just magic in Philadelphia. The support system in Doug Peterson and last year Frank, right? So we'll see. But of all the teams that I've thought of the best overall is Jacksonville check or for him. If I. I would have told you in September the colts are going to be a real tough out in the postseason. But would you say you would have been crazy? I thought the Indianapolis Colts were definitely definitely on the right path. I named Chris Ballard is my -secutive of the year this year his draft was unbelievably good. He might have gotten the defensive rookie of the year in the second round from South Carolina state. He stepped in led the league and tackles as a rookie. I talked to Terry Leonard a couple of weeks ago. And he said, hey, I thought I this is just going to be a learning year for me, you know, and they put him in the games, and he just they never took him out. And then you know, taking offense lineman twice in the first two rounds. I, you know, Ballard new at this team needed it needed a suit of armor to be built around Andrew luck. And it needed some defensive playmakers. That's what that's what they've got. Then I I, but I. Have to tell you. I'm totally blown away by very quick transformation. You know, it's why it's why there's so much hope every year. The Indianapolis Colts the perfect example of why every July, you know, it starts to get late July early. August you start to look at your team. Hey, maybe we got a chance this year who in the world thought the colts would be on ten ten in one run right now. I certainly didn't what do you make of the Cowboys in that performance against Seattle. I think that that was the perfect game for them, you know, a month or so ago. Jerry Jones starts talking about how deck needs to run more. Yeah. Back to have -solutely perfect times to take off with the ball any such. You know, what he is? He's not the best runner of the quarterbacks in football by any means. But he is one of the smartest runners that you'll see because he knows exactly when to go and win to stay. And I just I've got great. Admiration for what he did to me. I wrote this in my column Ezekiel Elliott is now convinced me that he could play in any era of football. He's he's such a smart football player in in my opinion, knowing when to stay in Brown's no one went to go for more yards. You know, went to you know, when when when to say die, and I do I really think that he's the kind of fast physical back that, you know, again, I I, and this is a this is a difficult thing for me to say because I think Jim Brown's the best running back of all time. He's got a lot of traits of Jim Brown, in my opinion as far as being physical but being fast at the same time. I I just I really love him as a football player. And I think they were that was a really good match for them against Seattle because Seattle's defense is good. But it's not it's it isn't great and. And I think that was a good team for them to play in the first playoff game scoring was down. Pete is that just an aberration? Or do you think that's what we're going to be seeing here after the referendum on the future of football after the chiefs and Rams, and that was everybody had to find their Sean McVeigh feels like we're back to what we are normally back to at this time of the year, and that's running the football and playing defense. Well, it, you know, the the is I wrote this morning teams average twenty three point five points a game during the regular season this year, and it was down eighteen point one in the first round of the playoffs. And look, Dan, it's four games. So I can't I can't tell you what's going to happen. But you know, some pretty potentially explosive teams are playing this week. Everybody discounts. The patriots you're fourth in the NFL and scoring this year. Again, they were well over four hundred points. So you know, the chargers can score. You know in the saints, obviously, even though they had a slump at the end of the season. They're they're good scoring team. So the Rams obviously, I think I think it's more of a blip. But I do think except for the ravens y-, you know, they they the really excellent all around defensive teams show up, you know, at this at this time of year. And I mean, except for the ravens ravens are one of those. But they lost. I think because they just couldn't get anything going on offense. Good stuff is always Pete. And have a great week. Thanks for talking and talk to you soon. Hey, my pleasure. Dan, have a great one. That's Peter King NFL column. Football morning in America every Monday exclusively on NBC, sports dot com. We're back with our play of the day. Your phone calls got a stat of the days. Well here on the Dan Patrick show, college football NFL football, the greatest time of the year. No more waiting. The time has arrived for you to get an all the action. Don't wait any longer to make your own line wages and head over the bed. Online dot AG to take them to the best bonuses in the business. 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No good of the eagles. Again, it was up ROY. And the eagles have won the eagles are winning. And we'll win sixteen the fifteen what a win for the eagles as the season continue. Eagles radio network as you might have been able to cipher. Cody parkey misses from forty three yards out. After the kick on slightly tipped by the eagles Lyman, Trayvon Hester. Do we have the bears? Call of this Seton that's play of the day, by the way, a little Titanic there. I'm being told the pairs call. Wasn't that great? Well, that could be it wouldn't be that great. Not should be entertaining. I don't I don't I don't think that it's like the doom and gloom like soul crushing call that. You want play of the day brought to you by truecar car shopping can be confusing terms lag dealer price list price, invoice, truecar shows you would other people paid for the car you want. So you can recognize a good price when you're ready to buy new or used car, visit truecar and enjoy more confident car buying experience. Do you have another version of that? Kick their Seton. Do we have the Spanish version of it? There. Cody parkey what indict today's out of this. Limit limited. I'll say I'll say no say. Said y'all check. Got it. On days all posted. It's wild card weekend. Do okay. Are they with the eagles radio network? Like are they the Spanish version of the eagles radio network? That's Ricky Ricardo of the eagles Spanish eagles radio network. Okay. Okay. I was wondering that I mean really invested in that. I just didn't know if the Spanish version of the bears announcing team how they sounded with that. Yes. I think want to listen to the whole game with these guys. They could be pretty entertaining. No, self nosy. And you're now saying yard. There Cody parkey what indict today's you out of this. That's limited. I'll say I'll say, no faith. Okay. One point. Does he save fire? Is there a fire? And then there's Papa. Stay here. Wow. That's good stuff. Let's see Chicago. She was that. I don't know. I don't know what fire and then Papa means, but. Who is invested. I few phone calls. Here will come up with a what's the poll option? Mclovin. Okay. We have a few. We might do today. We started out with which wildcard winner has the best chance region. Super Bowl colts chargers. Cowboys are eagles. We have a right away winner JR. Care guests who? Colt chargers. One colts to nobody has eagles and cow. Okay. Accent NFC is going to be tough to to for while third time in the last six seasons. Both numbers six seeds one on wild card weekend only to number six seeds have ever gone on to reach the Super Bowl. And they both won the Super Bowl the Steelers in oh five and the Packers in two thousand ten I so that's our poll question. I guess we're going to have to change that since we have a runaway winner here. Yeah. I the other option is of the four losers. Who would you buy stock in for the future? So you got the bears. You have the the Seahawks then the ravens and the Texans the Texans and stop. In. To stop is a franchise. You want us to buy into you. You it. It's just Bill O'Brien win a home playoff game. You know, they he's beaten one team. And it was Connor cook. In the raiders is who he's defeated in the playoffs. I mean, you have talent there you do. Come on. You're at home. Get seven points. You know, the colts are good that good. If I was going to invest in a teams future. Let me see not Seattle up bears. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I saw some throws from Trubisky last night. But you gotta score score touchdowns. It's like when the chargers started out with four field goals. I go blast gonna come back and haunt you not realizing that they were gonna shut down Baltimore's offense for almost ninety percent of the game. But that's that's when you get feel. It's like the chargers against the patriots. You better score touchdowns in when you get in the red zone. You're not gonna win a field goal game. Not in New England. Not in that weather. You just not. You gotta score. You gotta have red zone touchdowns here. And you know, I thought the bears had opportunities there and didn't take advantage of them and came back to haunt them. Yeah. Peng Trubisky though, it's one of those guys. He never has to good passes in a row. It's really good passing that past really. And and you sit there as a bears fan. From play to plague on this guy. Oh, he's awesome. And you know, even when he couldn't run in the second half yesterday. Is it feels like he's almost there and bears fans are on the precipice of saying this guys are future. But it's still you're like dipping your toe in the water but going back to the Texans. Because if I said, this is going to be your record this year, you go we're gonna have this great bounceback here. Just Shawn Watson JJ watt slow start. And I'd feel terrible Texans fan be like this. This wasn't a good year because you got to the finish line. And did the same thing that you normally do and that's why they put you at four o'clock on Saturday in if they had a game at one o'clock, I would've put him at one o'clock on Saturday. Yeah. You don't sack luck once clowney what not want? I don't know. Why I'm so invested in the Texans because I I wasn't invested in the Texans because they're the Texans and Bill O'Brien is their coach. Yeah. The home playoff game. Must not see TV. I think we need to come up with. There's always must see TV the Texas or must not see TV. You got Hopkins in there. You got watching in there. You got some stars. Phone calls coming up next hour. David Pollack ESPN college game day crew will join us national title game coming up tonight one hour the books. Two more to go on this Monday. Dan, patrick. It's me shack, the general podcast one sports net. 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Elway Loves Flacco, Over/Under on 2019 Free Agent Signings

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Elway Loves Flacco, Over/Under on 2019 Free Agent Signings

"The around with the NFL podcast. Thanks S darn will really say. Welcome to another dish the around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hans us, and I'm joined in a room filled with heroes. Mark Cecil, Chris Wesseling and Greg Roosevelt. What is up boys? Hey. Friday, we made it to the end of the yellow brick road. Mark. It's a new day is it starting to sink in a little bit more. Is what starting to sink in? Are you serious that we're going to be covering the Browns at the Super Bowl, right? The Browns wears it Miami. So it's like Brown's like the playoff field is set the rounds and eleven other teams it is starting to sink in. But I wanna master Harry's clearer. I wanna make it very clear that if the Browns make the Super Bowl, I will not be working that day. I will be there. But I will be a I will be a human being running full speed ahead in the stands doing what I want to do. Right. I mean, it seems comical the thought of the jets being the Super Bowl. But if that ever happened already on record. I'm not working either. I would do a cameo on the show if they won yet. Can we call you? Yes. There would be absolutely that. But not appear in the event of a loss. But this is all great problems. The idea of of the Browns losing the Super Bowl what a horrible thing that would be that mean you made the big game. I'm already say that that's giving up on the, you know. You know, your team not the jets are the Browns, but the team in this room in what could be like the most rewarding moment for the listener ever. I mean, I definitely would rather be cramped in one of those exhilarate press boxes where you can't move your knees. They give you like a ham sandwich wrapped in plastic in a still cookie instead of enjoying the full experience that I've waited forty plus years to enjoy as a patriots fan, Greg. The idea the patriots being in the cerebral isn't even special does point the idea of the Browns or the jets that's almost like it's impossible. I have covered up had to do didn't send three on each side. Now, if they made a second, I would I would go back to my media duties if the Bengals make the Super Bowl. Back in. Back in still don't think that Bobby Hart. John Miller combo is going to pick your right there. Let's let's start with winning at playoff game. I. Gun rack, there's a couple of things real quick when it hit number one related to Beckham going to the Cleveland Browns and the blockbuster trade of the year, maybe the decade. A person Twitter minded me of this. And I wish I remember their handle. But you know, who you are Jay Glazer now that oh, yeah. Claes her in his mail bag. And we were let's face it. We were dismissive of it. You were I we we were at all. I in fact, I was trying to save you. You're the one that said, let's not talk about this anymore. I was trying to be using the Royal? We I was saying Glazer's put in there. It's it's I mean Glazer's a little different. That's what I said cat. Well, I think I'm the guilty party. Who said if you look at the context, he was asked a question. Right. And when at the combine when Gettleman made his infamous comment that we didn't sign Odell Beckham to trade him. We were all kind of exhausted and put a moratorium on talking about it anymore. Right. But Jay Glazer in a mailbag. Mark is right in a mail bag tossed off that that could be a trade that would shock peop-. I mean, part of it was I think what Greg's referring to because you do the mail bag here at NFL dot com. Little mailbag the mailbag heat. And I would just say as a challenge to you as a friendly challenge. You have a little bit of work to do. Do in your next mailbag to get sort of back onto par with what it's the same way that Bill Simmons feels about hands us. He was like, I was the mail bag guy. Don't come on my corner. I don't like it. No Glazer forever has my respect in the mail bag game. After that. The other thing is we've talked about this on the podcast, and this is much far more esoteric. But the we had the big mural outside at NFL media headquarters we've been wondering for a long time, there's eight players on the wall. And we were saying who is going to be the first guy it's gonna mess up the mural and JJ watt. Josh Norman Aaron Rodgers von Miller rob gronkowski Pat Peterson Cam Newton and Antonio Brown. It's been a to both as inside the Bill Walsh shot on a mural like place that it was never completed. It seems like it's a great question, Dan because we are moving out of this building in twenty twenty two it's official. You can now go into a room in the NFL dot com. Bill office space in recent where you can look at the plans for the building. We're moving into do. They even bother to fix it up, or they they just kind of do it like a cheap version where they just like right oak over the top of is like why even bother fix it question. We're leaving got sick money into that was here for months, you gotta get back less. Good to down that. Baltics? For the political show. All right. Save it for the glasnost show big show coming up. I don't I don't know what that means. What's glasnost? What wasn't Gorbachev program to that? What a post-soviet reclamation project. I could be totally wrong about that. But it was something like that as well. It was about the Berlin Wall. It was Gorbachev host. I n Kurt. Let's see like. Say Gorbachev not getting a lot of pop these days considering like the massive Figari was at the time. You know, what I mean like he's just been a little loss. Each Gorby suffers happened used to be a big deal. All right coming up on today's show. We talked about it on Wednesday that it was coming. So we'll do it at the end of the show. Some over unders for new players players in new places old faces new places, but we got some more news to get to because this is the end of free agency week it is winding down in terms of the hot and heavy action. But they're still important moving made. So we're going to go spend through it all, but we will start with a ban another word for suspension. Let's get to the news. I know Dan Hannah jets fan number what at our building from the around the NFL podcast was just crying at his desk. Jat out to Greg. I was not watching NFL network at the time. But in a live interview with Anthony Barr the linebacker who agreed to join the jets and went back to the Vikings and said, he was crying remade the initials. And you said that to which I speaking of SO teric imagine Anthony Barr. Did not know what the hell. No. That was. Yeah. Well, what was his response? He seemed confused by eight or jockey a little uncomfortable by the whole interview. 'cause I gotta say Andrew pushed pretty hard on the whole decision, and he felt bad. He said it was one of the worst days of his life. I think he ultimately wishes he could have just been celebrating this great new deal for the Vikings. But it's like there's all these awkward questions where he said he was literally kind of sick to like when he said it. He started getting the cold sweats. And just felt like oh my gosh. I made this mistake also called the jets. How do you go onto the jets akin to marry in the wrong woman, which I found a little bit little bit strong. We didn't need to they were willing to offer. You a lot of money. You know, what he made the right move, though is annoying is was if you were having second thoughts at that level you go back to where you game. And like I said and garafolo on our free innoc- live show this week. I asked him if the jets signed barred would they have not gotten lady on bell garafolo said that he thinks it's still would have happened. But there's no doubt that bar spurning them leaving all that money and their piggy-bank led to the jets kind of going harder after bell. So I think it's okay. In the end, I'm not upset about I did not cry. But it was good bit. I mean, the only way to get paid is to threaten your current employer that you're gonna leave. Well, he's a rare guy though that took less money. So I mean in a lot of cases, that's I mean, I think a lot of people not work here. Right now. You're right. But this is a rare case where he he took less money. It doesn't happen too often in the NFL. And I don't think it was like the Vikings stepped up and gave him a great contract. But he, you know, he took less might have been the Greg Williams factor. You never know. All right. Let's start with the ban the Browns. The former employer of Greg Williams. They know how long Kareem hunts going to be out. The running back is out eight games violating the NFL personal conduct policy. The league announced this on Friday, hunters accepted, the punishment and does not plan to appeal. He released a statement saying he apologizes for what happened what did happen. The chiefs cut him in late November after a video surfaced of running back shoving and kicking woman during February two thousand eighteen incident at a Cleveland hotel. The message being put out by the Browns. This whole time has been we're supporting Kareem we're working with him toward a second chance. Well, now, we know when he comes back Mark when he does come back if you could stay on the straight narrow he will be another big addition to that office, it still feels to me like the one off note of what has been a big off season for them where I get it that someone like cream hunt. It's going to get a chance somewhere because he's just talented enough. But you could have kept him out for the entire year and found out where he was personally next off season two that would have been fine with me from the football side. There's been all this whisperings about do Johnson being openly available in a trade because these the odd-man-out if they do use Kareem hunt. I my question would be if it keeps it spurns to keep him around. Because then you're one injury away from having nothing in the backfield. And there and it's a risk. I mean, it's scheduled for eight games. You would assume that's what it is. But the Browns have been through this in in a very different circumstance where you never you never know because this wasn't for one incident. That's why wasn't six games. It was for two incidents. The NFL made that clear and you're right. It is the one off. No because this whole time. It's kind of awkward this week when everyone's like everyone's going to be so excited for this Brown's off, and so they'll Beckham David and joking Kareem hunt. And it's just like like, it doesn't feel something strange about just kinda throwing hunt into that mix right now, they could I think the all. NFL teams could have waited for the suspension to go down for the Browns. Couldn't wait to sign them. They started this automatic six week thing few years ago, and we're still getting six weeks, Spence to me that's not enough of a deterrent. The rate should be zero percent make it a full year suspension. I think that let's move on. Teddy Bridgewater on our Wednesday show. We talked about it. He looked like he was going back to the saints Jane's later our own James leader reported that it was going to happen. And the deal was in place. Teddy got cold feet. He met with the dolphins. But at the end of the day, he ends up sticking with New Orleans Saints who signed the quarterback to a one year deal worth seven to seven point two five million fully guaranteed rap sheet reported maximum value. Twelve five you would imagine he'd have to get on the field and play a lot in which would mean a drew Brees injury. But seven point two five guaranteed is a backup is very good money. Bridgewater remains I suppose. Pose the next in line New Orleans, potentially of drew Brees walks away. He is forty years old Mark ultimately is this a good signing for the saints? Well, I've talked about my feelings. I think Wes ultimately is correct on how he felt teddy Bridgewater viewed the situation that it was a better way to keep his career moving in an upward trajectory to be with a team where he had a very good experience there into continue. I say one more time than I would rather see a player get back on the field and play to have a better chance to long term contract. But the dolphins are a weird landing spot. So I totally think teddy did what was right for him. And the saints are a great situation if you have a chance to take over Jew breeze. There was one thing out there there. There was reports. The teddy Bridgewater was hesitant to sign with the saints because of whispers that Sean Payton is basically teed up to take the Cowboys job next year, and it's a one year contract. I mean, the air parent things great. He's got a foot in the door. He can learn that system, but it's not like the saints closing off their mind to draft in young quarterbacks. I don't think 'cause teddy Bridgewater. They're the most fascinating thing to me, though, is what's worrying Tanna L doing because teddy Bridgewater said he would there was a report from ESPN. He would have gone to Miami. They offered him quote, unquote, life changing money, so essentially I would starting somewhere and back fifteen million, right? So start so that that's like tanking Tech's. Right. And so Ryan tannehill on the roster and the Miami Herald reported way back in December. They're not keeping them. I think Ryan tannehill is the most likely guy now to be the week one starting quarterback. I did check with our insiders on this. You get an apology country. I don't know. I don't think. So. Because at this point if you cut them, you're eating like thirteen million dollars in dead money anyways. And yeah, he's going to be on your tax on your cap for a lot. But it's like at this point. Would you rather cut Ryan Anna, he'll eat a bunch of dead money and start Blake Bortles or just like keep tannahill relationship. At this point. I you wonder if it's fractured and they need a fresh start. But he's on the roster. So that tells me there that they're considering it it's an ops. Right. He's not. Not a terrible quarterback. And if he's a an a perfectly fun bridge guy. In fact, probably maybe the best in the league. If you're looking at that. I'd rather have Ryan tannehill than manning is a bridge guy to a rookie. So it makes sense. It's just matter. Just a question of whether the new coaching staff wants tannehill and the Bill at one thing is I read thing about oh. The seventy year quarterback is about like, wait. He's not been in the league for seven years. Yes. He has. And I thought name one memorable. Ryan tannehill moment that would lead his highlight film. I cannot think of one the way I used to feel about sample. You had the Miami miracle. Not that is not a miracle. Kenyan Drake tone, all the work. He was on the field for that. Right. But he's not. But he's he what did he die? Remember this game his rookie air against those memorable. I remember this game rookie year against the Zona cardinals. And I think I've held onto this memory for way too long where it was like he went up and down the field with a Nick full Super Bowl type performance. Not on a great cardinal, Steve. And I was like wow, Ryan tannehill the future. So that's my moment. My memory is five years worth of dolphins fans. Telling me he was better than Andrew look that was all right moving on thirty one came into the league kinda old. Moving on the giants have their Odell Beckham junior replacement. Oh, poor giants fans. That's a real thing. We're talking about right now. And it's golden Tate who signs a four year thirty seven and a half million dollar deal. Twenty three million fully guaranteed rap sheet reported according to west and Greg's list. This was the top wide out on the available free agent list. And last year he split between Detroit and Philly. He was a production machine with the lions he got moved to Philly kind of disappeared in that offense had a big touchdown in the playoffs. But other than that did not really make the impact the giants. Now. Greg bring in a receiver at thirty years old. It doesn't seem to fit in with where this franchise is headed. But it does add somebody and they didn't need somebody with sterling shepherd. I don't understand all the criticism. The giants took for this particular deal. It's all every all connected to get it get it. But everyone immediately was like what's the planet? What they're not. Thinking I thought they were tanking. You're not paying attention. No one almost no one tanks. They're trying to win. This was a wide receiver who we had ranked number one the contracts like a little more than I expected at this point in free agency. But it's not much more than Adam Humphreys. Jamison Crowder, I think you can criticize a million other parts of this process and other moves that they made, but they do have a pretty decent group of weapons. I mean, golden Tate. Evan Ingram saquon Barkley, sterling shepherd is a nice group of weapons whether I know, you know, if you wanna be a hater to get they've got him, and I totally get it. But this contract to me makes them better. So they totally conceded out outside the numbers in downfield ally. Manning's arm right now would love you love to have a vertical threat. Yes. They're only proven receivers are slot receivers. Right. But the patriots have you know, done that for for years. This isn't the I know I'm just saying like, adding golden Tate to me, doesn't isn't a bad thing. I would say on its own. It's fine. Had the auto Beckham thing that happened and you add someone like golden Tate, even more. So, but it's it's more like the PR mess that the giants can again to navigate for the first time in their franchise history. Three years running where it's just another thing that when you put the whole ugly soup together giants fans like why am I excited about next season or any season, get them desperate to be right? You know, they're desperate to win nine. I think this is a team that's hoping they can somehow find a way to nine wins. No one thinks they're winning the Super Bowl, but he'd loved for Eli manning to have a decent enough season. And he's got a good enough player at around isn't horrendous plan hoping for nine wins with an ugly ugly expansion roster. It's a bad week to be giant spin. Speaking of Dave Gettleman, he made a big move back of his Panthers day days to bring in a MAC Khalil Sunday five year fifty five million dollar contract. I think it was one of the last big deals gettable handed out. Yes Panthers days. It didn't work out at all. And after spending. The entire season in two thousand eighteen on. I r with a knee injury Khalil the left tackle was released rap sheet. I report of the transaction. So got he made a lot of money did not do a lot. And now he's on the street and the Panthers still looking for help on the line. This was a bad signing Matt Kalil what they get one year out of him in one bad year. That was one that everyone. I guessed you know, because he was a pretty bad tackle in Minnesota overdrafted. The tackle free agency situation hasn't really changed over the last couple of years offense lineman. Just get insane money and free agency. And it seems like in most best-case scenarios, they're fine. And then worst worst-case scenarios there Khalil. I mean, he was a disappointment with Minnesota. That's why was I guess he was a top five draft pick is in that range when he came into the league and immediately he didn't really play at that level. But sometimes I guess in this league, especially when you got that funny money, just the pedigree. And maybe some good tape. You could talk yourself into a we can make this guy a stud on the line. But in this case, they had line issues for a long time too. It's one of those candidates to overspend. Like, I think it's just that where will football be twenty years now when you don't have like these. Farm-fed gigantic people that wanna play you something. Oh, I just I just think like in general this toughness factor of people is lowering and that is going to impact someone that's asked to play through knee problems for twelve years and take hits from gigantic people versus becoming a hedge fund. So I've been a better this week though, Matt Paradis and Daryl Williams on the offense of line for pretty good cheap money. I think so in this era, Mark where the rich the elite our our Greece in the palms of people to get their idiot children into high level institutions higher learning. This is the world you speak of the that it is a slice of the cake that I speak. I here's the thing. The NFL has always drawn most of their players from different types of people. I mean, it's always been an opportunity to escape the life that you're growing up that was true in the fifties. Sixties seventies. It's true today. And there's more than thirty. There's more inequality now than there's ever. I'm not that nice Leary is rock solid. But it's just general theory just think that offense of Lyman seem to be like on the college level, and the pro level it's harder and harder to find these people. Do you also believe that the children are using ipad type devices too often play those video? Yes to that heavy metal. We have no long a heavy metal the ipad when kids at five and six or using ipads. We have no long term study on what that becomes when they out their push a sled build your lower body. Right. Get the Jim Jim just run around nature. It's not like you can get a paper route anymore any five year olds that have ipads weren't. Generally, the ones becoming offense of would have been the type of become offensive linemen, and the NFL anyways that that is that is as much of an assumption as every part of my arguments, and how dismissive Greg's being of what I think is a real thought provoking take on America. It's just more of a question than a fact, I'm asking a question will this football. Changed by this utter lack of toughness in human beings in America, moving on Blake Bortles. He's got a tough in America. You know, got a job no more because with Nick foles installed as the franchise quarterback in Duval county with the Jaguars Bortles tenure of Jacksonville's over they officially part ways as the new league year kicked in and falls contract became official. Of course, another high high draft pick once upon a time third overall nearly got to Super Bowl couple years ago and lead to a. A terribly misguided contract extension last year at Tom Coughlin defended and said, he doesn't regret and doesn't think he made a mistake the this week Tom take these giants executives giants exacts bad. It's bad. Gotta take the l there. But Bortles hits the street. So there is another there's another option if you're looking for a backup quarterback west does Bortles hold any value. If you're looking for somebody to fill out a quarterback group. I think he's the perfect perfect quarterback for the dolphins to start sixteen games. If you're tanking jumping in the fish tank. I would just. Signed him up for that venture sixteen games and see where you end up in next year's drip jumping in the fish tank, dude. Stay in the same state. People like income tax things. People. People do. About the income tax for star. If you really are orgasmic tanking that Blake Bortles Perfecto. I mean, you could just go you could cut Ryan tannehill. And just go with the rest of the depth chart. You have right now that were still there now. Back in the building, David fails. He actually agent I think Roddick loop. I am not solely. According fails. Back. Just not doing it fails back Brock's free agent too. By the way, he's out there. I'd rather have Brock for sure than Bortles. I see see this being a Ryan Fitzpatrick destination as well. Right. It's side somewhere. That's a nice. I'm not saying he's he's coming off nice year degree lying about the NFL though. Like, there's a decent chance. You can stumble into seven wins. That's one of the things I believe in most. It's really not that hard to win five or six games. Like what really stunned you if the dolphins somehow found a way to come in second in the AFC east. Yes. I. I jets Jimmy. You just get a few things going your way Flora's turns out to be a great coach. It's like a nice year where you live. What did they share everything? They got so many breaks. Yes, they're probably haven't they were much worse than they were seven to nine. They haven't got that enough to go get that quarterback. Number one overall. They've always been this Essex seven eight win. They were five and eleven team that one seven and nine last year, no doubt. So I if I feel like five and eleven might be their ceiling this year. But you're right though. That's not a killer division outside the pets even with the improvements with the other teams Jordy Nelson's done in Oakland one and done the raiders released Nelson on Thursday. Tom Pell Sarah reported, it comes less than three months after Jon Gruden said, the why that would be back. They gave him a three point six million dollar bonus for salary cap purposes. And Greg you're fired up on the Twitter about this one. I was I did learn after the fact that that bonus was guaranteed as part of his. Contract. It was not reported. In fact, it was reported up in an opposite fashion at the time last March and in December when this was reported, but people uncovered that money was guaranteed, regardless. So that clarifies it to me, it makes a little more sense. Why you would cut him? Now that said, it doesn't change the fact that it was an awful contract, and that Gruden was misguided by saying he's gonna be back because all the raiders fans came into my mentions like, well, how did he know he was going to get into Neo Brown? He didn't know this was unforeseen. It's not unforeseen that you wanted to upgrade from Jordy Nelson. You just went into free agency desperate to spend as much money as humanly possible at wide receiver Antonio Brown, Tiro Williams, even JJ Nelson. So it wasn't unforeseen. So you don't tell a guy that say that he's gonna be back and talk about how Grady late in the season if you're gonna and and you don't send them to that contract to begin with we made fun of that contract. It goes back to same thing. I was sitting on Wednesday. What these GM's? And the coaches and all that I could deal with the lies of a mission that's part of the game. But when you say something straight up in this case, Jordan, Nestle, we'll be back three months later, you cut him. It's like you're wasting. Everybody's time this come on. Yeah. Keep it real. I mean, Jordan, it's not a bad deal for Jordy Nelson. He got this guaranteed money into two thousand nineteen. He can go double dip sign another contract. How about the Packers? I'm not saying Jordan Nelson play anymore. He's thirty four years old. But Aaron Rodgers was annoyed that Jordy left without being consulted. The Packers certainly need to fill out a wide receiver depth chart wonder, if it's got a bunch of young guys that they seem to like I I don't know for me. It's not Jason Witten. But it's a little bit too cute. Bring Jordy Nelson back degree, maybe. But he's friends with Aaron Rodgers. So. John Elway has got things to say. Can't give Elliott benefit of the data anymore. Sorry, everybody Broncos fans, and you get you understand because your patience has been tested more than anyone. But he speaks with NFL networks. James Palmer, who's a good guy like JPL? Yeah. I mean when you do a power rankings of if I'm like, we're going to Phoenix next week. All right. We're going to Phoenix next week. So. And it's going to be nice. It's a nice hotel, very nice hotel. And then there's the hotel lobby in. Everyone's there. I mean, you could you can name any NFL network talent just about their belly up at the bar talking eating JP's high up on my list, if I'm going to bump into somebody at the bar and have a ten minute combo JP's of their easy. I mean, he could be right all positive less. I will not say who I want to be belly up with thank would be negative or you have people from our never that you that would be very low on the list, you do I just want you to release the whole powering. No, that's that's a may episode. Tune in Ian Rapoport. I think you're gonna wanna hear this. I'd say like a top three would be fine. Just don't go any deeper than that. I haven't been on. The rap sheet has friends podcast yet was to do a home at home. I have not been invited. Yet. Don't hold your breath j J James Palmer is one of those guys, you know, he's he's based in Denver. So it's a weird thing in this industry in this building, especially if the Broncos are as relevant as possible little boy airtime little more relevance for James Palmer. So he's in a tough spot here with Elway. He needs some of these signings to work out because these Broncos teams last couple years not on the rain is back pocket though. He is also all he doesn't actually attached to the Houston Tex without you do other. But he is he's heavy often. Trump Abba, more to spend a lot of nonsmoking keenum. I mean, you know, these are good dad. So, you know, if you're if you're giving the Broncos coverage, you don't have to leave home, you know, it's just like everybody Denver family at James Palmer Twitter. Let them those. Dan, things highly of him personally. It'd be fun. All right anyway. So this is what happens Palmer talks to Elway. And Elway tell Swannee or Jayme that Joe flacco is quote just getting into his prime thirty four years old. Now, there's one man in the studio and it shocked me when this happened when the trade went down that is the biggest Joe flacco fan in America right now. And it's Chris Wesseling west. Do you believe what the GM say about the quarterback? I said something very similar at the time that I fully expect Joe flacco to have one of the best seasons of his career and to enter a period where the next couple of years go better than the last few because when I saw him play last year he was moving and throwing much more smoothly much more athletically than he did in previous few years. I like the fit. I don't think he was surrounded by great talent. In Baltimore the last couple years on offense. And I have I know everyone likes to get their snarky and just like they Adrian Peterson in Amari Cooper and everything else has been decided time. But yeah, I. I do believe that Elway is onto the one thing about flacco that I liked watching his introductory press conference with the Broncos was he was very honest. And he basically when he was in that thing with Baltimore, you knew from the summer on that he was going to be pressed by Lamar Jackson issues. He basically acknowledged it was one of the worst years of his entire life. He didn't wanna sit on the bench. It wasn't like he was trying to be, you know, Brett farve Aaron Rodgers partout. But it was just like he to me the change of scenery might really really be good. I hear you. My thing is just health because he he played two. He got a broken rib come on. Now. I know, but he played two seasons with the really st- to two and a half seasons where he wasn't in games in almost every season. Right. And he was so limited and he talked about it that healthier than he's been. He's I know. But that's just the thing that you would worry about happens. That's the x factor and then Aaron Rodgers gangs X-factor Skaggs could be a genius and could fix this terrible offensive line or. Skanks good go the way the last couple of rich gang rela their offensive coordinator on that. He's rooms with him. I didn't think that that. I brought it up on this podcast that that was his nickname. According to Elway. I know, but you were just killing people for using duty at the combine your using skiing. Well that you have name as. Just kind of gross to say as Skaggs I think he just gets not a great and say, you know, better with surpri I feel like this. Now getting deja vu ski how about skank scary. I thought this guy turned around through scan out there is not bad. But about skank, I don't a little he would appreciate that little hard edge for nickname. I'm looking photo right now thinking that up pretty nice. No, that's not that's not to put them. Seems nice love. James Palmer moving on K J, right? The seahawks. Stay in business together rap sheet reports two years worth up to fifteen and a half million dollars, Greg. So you're looking at the phone, and you get it that scan sky drop this game plan. Shouting in that way inside the Broncos facility, please a skunk. I want a good game plan around flacco. Right has spent his entire eight year career in Seattle. He missed eleven games due to a knee injury in two thousand eighteen but prior to that he was a tackling machine. We love tackling machines four straight seasons with one hundred plus tackles, west good move. I don't think anybody knows because I don't think anybody knows what's going on with his knee. He returned nine years old returned at the end of last year. I couldn't really get a good gauge on whether he was the same player. I don't think he was quite disruptive in those few games that he played at the end of the year, and he didn't get much attention on the free agent war compliments, Bobby Wagner. Well, I think it's kind of the secret sauce for the Seahawks. They put pieces together that complement each other. Well, and know their roles I think the Seahawks I see out there. I know you're quiet and free. They kind of do this quiet thing and free agency. Big. I don't like what they're doing the AB these offensive lineman. They bring fluker back potty just taking a shot on him, Michael kendricks. Maybe. He'll go to jail. But if not he's feel their big off season was last year, shedding adding a bunch of young people. On another player, not going anywhere. Philip door sets a one year deal to remain with the patriots. He had a nice season. He had he was a part of that offense last year. But apparently not a big market was waiting for him into free agency. So he just stick around in New England don't see any money. Greg is just go back to your old. It's a deal that no one's proud of. What's that? I don't know. You said like when you don't see money being that. No one's proud of the deal. So that's well. Yeah. I mean, I think it's safe to say they're not getting paid too much money, and they were gonna world or Devin funchess just got fourteen million for one year. I mean, they said had like two hundred and eighty yards, but he will always be the guy who to me the key touchdown in the AFC championship to lead them to Super Bowl. It's just I I think we're bringing up just to bring up the patriots week, which I think patriots fans are frustrated with you would think there would be over this by now because this is kind of what the patriots do. The patriots did want a slot receiver though. And I think that ended up being a big whiff in this free agency period they really want. Adam Humphreys, reportedly ended up offering a more money than the titans got. But it was after he had already greed with titans, and they were in on Koby. They were lightly and on golden didn't get any of them. And they signed the ended up signing Bruce Ellington, they signed who's the guy from Washington MAURICE Harris in this bunch of special teamer Terrence Brooks, they bring back Jason mccourty for a little more money. It's a very kind of low wattage free agency period here for the patriots. And I think there's gonna be some more moves to come in the gronk thing hangs over the franchise that it does. I mean over the wall outside here NFL media. But if he were to retire. I don't think you need to pull his painting off the same way when you're in Tony Brown your meltdown. It's like they're sending a message. But it's the opposite of grandstanding. It's like Belgium goes to betas make sure people take pictures of him with his wife with his thing. The UK wasn't it Carribean. Okay. Yeah. Then they sign a bunch of special teams while everyone's going crazy with their money. And it's like, oh, hey, we. We don't need to be active in free agency to dominate this league. I really liked. Martellus bennett. Senate tweeden I recommend everyone. Check it out. It was kind of a joking letter to Michael Bennett to let him know what the locker room was like he gave me more information on the personalities in that locker room in these tweets, what people are really like some beat reporters had for years. It was it was good stuff. Just kind of like the different vibes. Like like Julian Edelman, you'll probably want to punch him at some point. You don't do that kind of only got one speed you'll vibe with Hightower. He's kind of the most like just like business like you're kind of guy, you know, Brady very down to earth in into interior decorating, James Devlin, a guy like the Bennetts who really self growth is important to him. You can ask them pretty deep conversations. He wants to become a better person. I'm gonna check these up who's this from from our Telus Martos and those the patriots aren't reciting him now. So Steelers have signed Dante. Krief? They have a whole their depth chart with Antonio Brown. No longer around. That's not to say Dante Moncrieff becomes they're never went option. That's doodoo Smith Schuster, but Moncrieff after one year with the Jaguars didn't do much. He bounces to Pittsburgh. Of course, starters career with the colts. Someone asked me yesterday on Twitter. How did I like what the Steelers have done? And it was hard to say that I was taking anything positive away. Dante Moncrieff is talented, but he's been a tease and one of the least efficient wide receivers in the NFL. The last couple years every offense. He's goes to is it in in the bottom of the league and passing offense. They also sent Steven Nelson gave him a lot of money to be a starting cornerback, Bradley Roby, turn them. Now. This is all kind of like little stuff, and we got some big coming up. Give us up a little breaking news. Give it to us. Ryan tannehill has been traded to the Tennessee titans and signed to a one year contract. No other details. This moment. The titans have their go up. I guess in tanto dolphins decide they turned the page even redo his contract. I would imagine they did they said in sign them to a one year contract. His agent broke the news. So he clearly was willing to just take a backup contract. I would assume it's a nice backups. Contrast. I didn't have plain Gabbard under contractors. I can never stay healthy. I was gonna say very rarely have anything positive to say about the titans. But this is a perfect landing spot. Their quarterback is never healthy is always got something going on and Tanna hill is to me now one of the best backups and football. I I really liked the titans. First week free agent. Need to might be my favorite team here in free agency Humphries SAF, alled, I like wake. I think there's some sort of under like there's a market inefficiency and some of these older players that you can just get for a one year contract like wakened tannehill. I would actually even put into that. Like why not get Ryan tannehill for one year? Just just same with Baker Mayfield. Josh allen. You're talking about these little bit older but marks Maria. It's all about the quarterback though, the quarterback going to be able to lift his game. Take the franchise to the next level. I haven't I haven't seen any evidence. Other than a nice playoff winning Kansas City Chiefs team that kind of tripped on its own moment moments here and there, but is he the guy? Now, you have another aren't we like massively less excited about Marcus mariota as a room than we were three years ago? I mean, this that the way you want the trajectory to go as a quarterback. And that's not the way you want it to go. Where are we going to edit out? All our tannahill takes earlier in the show. We're the organic fish tank, and that was organic, okay. That happened earlier. Nice discussion people that all the shows a little behind the times, and then bang and hear this. Well, these guys are captured everything just gonna sit here through Sunday night. This pod will be forty six hours week one starter Jake Ruddick dolphins are going to be bad. They're going to draft someone. It's gonna be a tough year. All right. Sorry. Henry not really best. Who's the best guys left on the market? That's what's going on the news whose left now, Justin Houston I think's the best. Doc and sue is interesting. This isn't one of Ronald Darby's out there. It was coming off an injury. But was a, you know, a guy defensive rookie is for it's out there or not one of the best guys. But I have not heard Randall cobs name all week. No Geeta Smith south there. Know, there's some there's some players out there. All right before we get out of here, Stu some over under success fun. Some players that are new locations. Joe flacco, let's start there west. It's going to be a fascinating subplot to watch. How he does in Denver. Let's throw some numbers out there you tell me west over under ready. All right touchdowns. Twenty five and a half. That is well set. I will take the under because I think that it will be Philip Lindsay and. Who's the other running back? There was a rookie Royce Freeman in the red zone quite a bit thirty nine hundred yards passing. Ooh. Mark shaking his head. I'm taking the under for all Joe flacco. I don't believe is gonna because if he misses three games that alone you win it. And to me these are so well set Dan that if he played sixteen games that one's little minor injury. And you are he's your own over ninety five touchdowns two times in this entire career. I'm waiting for Wes was answer. I'll take the over on thirty nine hundred eighty eight passer rating over okay? So you see a good season. I do not a great season. But better than a middling icy a career resetting season where he's going to be viewed differently. Does got a fourth round pick in this. Ryan tannehill trade, which indicates to me. Areata? No not that he's gonna be battling to start. But that they're certainly thinking of post millionaires in the last year of his contract could tannehill just be another option long-term. That's a lot of bad value. All right. We'll stick a quarterback, Greg Nick foles. Now, the clove the Jaguars twenty seven and a half touch. See that's really high though. That's what people are saying. Well, not really that's what I'm saying. I it's funny because I consider myself a total fulls accolade go over, but I'm going under anyways. Because I think that's the smarter. Forty one hundred could have a good year and throw for twenty five forty one hundred yards. I feel like they're going to want to run the ball lot. I'm going over that though ninety passer eighty I don't believe in Passerini bug over Nuff a passer rating of two thousand nineteen that's fair to grow up a little bit. I I wanna see Nick foles start sixteen games. He's never started white yet. I think is more. I think it's going to be like a run. I I don't I think he could play. Well, and go under all those. You know what? I mean. It's possible. All right. Mark you ready? Yeah. Big one for you. Because it's a new day in Cleveland on its new. Back junior. Okay. White snake? One hundred. Catches. Under close. Thirteen hundred and seventy five yards receiving. Under way over. Wow. Twelve touchdowns twelve. Well, that's push. Twelve and a half touchdowns. He's twelve. Thirteen touchdowns over. He's only done that once but I'd go over big time on the other two. I'm so when you thought I said twelve you said push. But the when I told you twelve and a half you should've said under but you went to not trying to veer negative. I just I so he's going to have a Pro Bowl season. But maybe not I team all pro you've had one hundred catches once. I think there's a lot of other mouths to feed and that offense is there were years in New York where there weren't as good. It's around a good thought now because he might be more of a vertical receiver a little less of those short more of a vertical. Receptions, maybe more yards. What would you say is number is west receptions yards touchdowns? Hit me with it. One hundred receptions, sixteen hundred fifty yards. Touch. And I'm being conservative freaking out over here. Here. He can set records. All right. So that type of season another running back you ready Mark stick with you your boy Mark with a K Mark Ingram. Mark with a see over thousand over barely Wes your boy Adrian Peterson. Eight hundred twenty eight yards under didn't like the way. He ran for much of the second half of the season. And Darius guys will be healthy this year tannehill by the way, the exact same contract is as teddy Bridgewater seven guaranteed twelve with centers, Greg. Ryan tannehill just of put that out there rides down a hill. Four and a half starts. I'm going over. I think there's a hell age of your performance or both. That's that's the reason why I was decisive about it was one one way or another. I'd take it like that move. I think the titans need options with that position. I agree. They agree less west John smoky Brown up there in western New York with the big armed kid. Yards per reception sixteen. Over they'll get a lot of wide PR. I like it. What did this show Jackson have last year again eighteen it's wild? You're taking the over. So you work that's a connection that will work. Well, you could have four catches in have you could average eighteen point nine that will lead the league around eighteen look at what Robert freaking foster did at the end of last year with Josh Allen undrafted rookie in John Brown's smokey's better Robert follow. We sat in games for all these either way. I don't sleep on Robert fos sumptious. Don't sleep on rob fights urinalysis mine now is smoke is way better that guy was explosive. I'm saying I kind of like foster, Brown Beasley. I think foster is not a guy to be trifled with when you do that as a rookie. I wanna see what's next grow mob. Oi, lady on bell, seventy seven receptions, seventy seven and a half reception over. Twelve hundred and fifty yards rushing. Set. Well, but I'm, you know, I'm bulletin bell. So I'm going over. So you're looking at your saying he's going to approach thousand total yards homerun signing v gives you that. I mean, he's done this. Wes where you come down that. What's the question? Seventy what did I say seventy? I would I would not seven seventy seven, and I would say total. I would say airtran scrimmage output more around eighteen hundred. But yeah, who said that Bill Bill, let's seventy seven and a half perceptions. We'll start there under twelve hundred and fifty yards rushing. That's a good set. Yeah. I would push seven that would be ridiculous. It's just ridiculous. Loud to push that eat rushes for exactly. That's marks. But it's like losing a yard on his last thing and ruins your his last two active years here here for twelve sixty eight twelve ninety one so twelve fifty is right in that world seventeen twenty total yards off. It's under. Okay. Whatever did Joe flacco sucks. All right. That's good. I don't need anybody else out there the world agrees with you. We'll see what happens and it'd be throw a name out there. They're going to be hearing about this magical. Joe flacco about this Sam darnold, Dan, look twenty seven touchdowns feeling bullish, bro. But I'm gonna take you nailed it. I think he's going to be between twenty six thirty. I'll take the over. Sam darnold fourteen interceptions. Fourteen and a half intercept. She's gonna throw about between ten and twelve. So I'll take the under. New York Giants wind. What's number four? Give us an over under on give us a half gives a half. I'm going over regard four and a half or three and a half. I'll take the under. I think they're going to be a mess. Wow. I there there aren't many teams. I wouldn't take the over. I think I'd probably take the over on four Naff for about thirty teams. And the giants would be one of them is so sloppy now even to the next level with Beckham gun. I just think it's just going to be. This is the wrong time too. Because everyone's going to skew hyper negative, and they earned it the Browns the giants. But I still think that's not a good team. They're a bad team last year. And they got worse if they go four eleven and one is that four and a half wins. No, we've had this conversation. Well, I'll give it to you. You would go people don't. But west this world, I'm going to push for winds in Thai I have more leniency on these things. Speaking of the desert. We gotta get Spicer back on the show here who was top. We gotta talk about Jonathan Williams. God you and what happened there? Melvin Gordon how it feels about him. And who who else is in the mix face Strack year, your desert conciliaory who has invited to your wedding, Chris. But you have not received a where we're going to talk that it's on me for not getting my job is to text all these people in tell them, I need RSVP's guys are not a single guy is not good ever at getting the. The winning invite I dressed up in very nice envelope. You put it somewhere. Hopefully. But you don't send it back assume you're gonna wreck in Taibbi. Just see what's happening there. Speaking of lesson as wedding. The bachelor party is set keeping a nice and intimate and going down to San Diego. No more details because we, you know, this is going to be an intimate affair, but we have a house the reds are in town. Just gave you the date. Don't don't come up to us. Give us the privacy, we deserve. And what's going to be an incredible? We can. It's very critical. And look as upcoming nuptials excited was I am. Dan's expecting, a Beatles. Arrive in New York flock of people just like all around. Did you ever see hard day's night? That's going to happen once touchdown that isn't uneven film. Sports. All right. We'll be. All right. So this is going on again, the train down the coast. It's a possibility but how we get the cornhole boards. Then I cross my mind that's might have to take a car for that reason we can reach out to the person renting and ask if who rented they maybe they have that. The I will say the train is an awesome experience is cool kids take it off line and figure I wouldn't be I wouldn't care about the the cornhole thinks that I want a car. Always wanted car like good hurry. This is. Strains out drive. I don't mind. I mean, I'm just saying it's nice to have a car convinced. Greg's going to be there for the night even think he's going to three or four hours. I'm there. Hey, there'll be a Saab who is there Taibbi lasts. I'm there. I'm there baby. All right next week. Like, we said we're going to Aaron Jona for the owners meetings talk to a lot of coaches and GM so looking forward to that. So we'll have a show Monday. We'll have a show Wednesday. And then we'll have a Twitter show as well on ones. I know we did a bad job. We never told anybody. We changed on Twitter show. Wasn't people have been confused? It was Tuesday. Now, it's Wednesday at one thirty Pacific for thirty eastern. Believe nine thirty over at London town. Well, it's no there something going on with daylight say how come? You're close though, it's close come on guys. Try to help you seven hours. I believe not eight or maybe it's nine not eight to either way figure it out guys out of your cat. Thanks, roll your work this week. Yeah. It's been fun shock with you guys on Monday as well. Unlike Erica, you decided it was important to be here for free agency week in the NFL, and I respect that. Oh, yeah. There's no way you can miss this week. 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NBA Draft, Trade rumors, Zion, Flacco fuss, Blazers as underdogs?

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NBA Draft, Trade rumors, Zion, Flacco fuss, Blazers as underdogs?

"All right. I'm Jason lot. That's Marcellus Wiley that do Esser other great suit. My man I want to speak for yourself. The most fairly show. It's more coming up. We'll tell you people are seriously underestimating the trailblazers against Golden State. We start today with the NBA draft Zion Williamson wishes he could return to do. So do I if dumbest thing in basketball, the biggest obstacle preventing the NBA from gaining ground on the NFL is the association's failure to figure out a way to keep its youngest talent in college for three or four years. The one done rule is bad business for the NBA and the college game letting kids go straight from high school to the Lee is even worse business no-one dislikes NCW amateurs more than me my desire to see future Zion. Stay in school has nothing to do with keeping amateurism in place, my desire to see the NBA financially reward. It's best prospects to stay in college for multiple years. I want more zion's prospects who arrive in the NBA already ratings driving hope-inspiring TV stars tonight. The whole does most compelling draft lottery since the two thousand and three LeBron James sweepstake, the NBA draft used to be a big deal every year before kids skip school altogether. And now just spend one year in college building the brand Zion is the rare prospect excited enough to generate three years of hype in one season at Duke, and even he'd prefer another year in school. I mean this hundred for sale in our savers. If I could come back for a second year and play I would be and Duke was. It was a dream. Come true. This year my life. This is not reality. We live. The NBA needs to change that reality you grow better players in college. It's a superior training ground than the end of an MBA bench Geely. It's no coincidence that Steph curry Damian, Lillard, CJ McCollum and Klay Thompson all spin at least three years in college. College is where you learn how to compete how to put the teen goals ahead of individual goals. Like NFL players NBA players should be developed in college the guys selected at the top of the NFL draft are expected to come in and help with team win right away. There isn't one rookie plane for the Trail Blazers warriors raptors or bucks, Portland's that Collins is the loan twenty one year old who get any minister in the conference finals there these nineteen and twenty year old babies the NBA allow into their league have absolutely zero to do with winning. It's a waste of money. It would be smarter to give trae young the Atlanta rookie a two million dollar. Check. On this year's draft night for staying in college an extra year you realize before this past season. The only time the missed the playoffs was when he was a teenager learning. The pro game creating more zions should be the NBA goal not being fair to a handful of kids who can score meaningless buckets while finishing puberty. All right. Joined the desk now is NBA champion and non college player. Stephen Jackson and Yahoo sports NBA insider, Chris aides are myself. Would would prospects plane longer in college improve the NBA? For meanness a hundred percent there. Fuck good with. I would say no the year was the coup car because. Nobody forcing your LeBron. He'll want to get them book is to college for free another year. It's amazing that these guys get caught up to the noise, and they listened to to the point where they actually got a sale something to the noise when in reality this is for you Zion. This was your best year ever. You know, why? Because it was your last great year. Guess what? Next year is going to be even better, brother. You're gonna get that check. You'll get that opportunity and you because you're gonna go to a sorry team is gonna get an opportunity to go out there and make it even greater year. So why limit yourself in this capacity? I'm still going to class. But what I went to either. These smart people don't even go to class extra times. I believe Zahn. You don't owe. But get to my point what should the NBA header if the kids stayed longer and call it trying to with them jokes now. Hale. No. Even go the none in dawn's because we know that that list LeBron K, Kevin Garnett Kobe, Tracy McGrady John champs. He was back. This talk about the one and keep it apples to apples Zion. And there's a little full screen here to support this. Now, the Kevin Durant Serik roses carry urban. I picked their first receivers to make match up to what they would have given the collegiate level versus what they gave twenty five twenty twenty twenty one guys hit the ground running. And it's not an anomaly to see a guy hit the ground running those numbers support that and even more. So to my point you can't get the toothpaste back in the to the branding is out in terms of when you see a roster in college and his juniors and seniors first thing you think about is what on ain't good enough to go pro yet. So now, you're going to try to rebrand the upperclassmen it's cleats level. You can't do it. Take you to the pros and get that money. Yeah. I didn't realize coast K was kicked out of school. I'd say shoop on the one hundred before I go any further. What makes you believe that he truly meant what he said, he please. There's no other reason to say why does. No, there's no there's no upside to saying that he truly believes like a lot of guys look man, the lack of responsibility for a lot of people is the key to happiness and having a job is responsibility. Played in college having fun plan thirty thirty five games year. That's that's that's a cake life or guy like Zion. If you plan to do or somebody's major colleges, it can be fun may not be as financially rewarding. But it can be. I think it's all talking points in the recruiting points for. Going there to stay and all that. But please. Nobody's forcing you. Could. You could go back. Go back. Look, I'll say this. We talked about. Yes, it will improve the value of the NBA. It would it would if you're allowing guys to come in stay three years of college two-three because they will be more developed, but look, I'm a firm believer. I know most people would agree with me colleges. If everybody I firmly believe that I believe we ever supreme skill should be allowed to get at boys over there. That's over our we'll get there. But no. But usually go back to the Patrick Ewing days Charles blocking those guys stay I get it. But also what we have to understand their the chances of injury occurring that can I can occur causing you not able to reap your full financial benefits. That is that is that is something they have to weigh considerably. Listen. I I agree with that. I'm for the NBA financially compensating guys because I think it's better than having guys. Trae young put up a bunch of meaningless buckets in Atlanta, this she ain't contributed nobody winning nothing. And none of these young guys really are the game would be better. If the players again, I'm not talking about what's right or wrong. I've seen saying with the game be better if they were trained up in college and sent to the NBA as men where he was saying the same thing about trae as you're saying about Ben Simmons when he wanted I respect, but you're not saying the same thing had set out his rookie year for one. He's still wanted. Brooke a year, and it was meaningless it was so same thing trae. So if you if you going to be on the team play your best, and if you get individual, that's only you but to ask you a question, I feel like I would rather come out in the NBA and go out house going struggle. Then have to sit there and make a hop Poseidon video to bring make the biggest thing like, I enjoy communists. I I would rather just go straight to the NBA. Now like, you said some people may con- it some people's not I'm I wasn't made for college. And I wish I would've went to college to be honest because the cards I signed with end up winning NASA championship my freshman year. And I and I ended up I was strong enough to go to overseas and bounce around to get back to the NBA. Everybody's. Not built like that. So it depends on the person to me stat. Here's what I just wanted to come out of your player mindset. And just pretend you're the owner of an NBA team. You just want the value of your Lee to go up. Would you not admit the game was better served by more experienced players coming into the NBA a lot of these young guys just sucking minutes. They they not really contributing to the overall health of the game until these guys get to be twenty one twenty two twenty three years old. If a scout goes and picks a player, that's not ready. That's on the scout. You can't blame the kid for taking opportunity kids are drafted off potential. Not if they were drafted off who can help us win next year a lot of these other than Zion. A lot of these guys will be going allot lower in the draft. Yeah. But you know, I always go back to the AT. Oh, if you if you can go to war at eighteen he's able to put RAFI family. They. You know, what's weird though, looking at the list of the people that you're using the support your argument when we talk about Steph, and clay Lillard and McCollum only Lillard hit the ground running. And there's a close version to what he is. Now, if you look at Steph, it took them two year for clay year four you talk about CJ McCullough gear three none of those guys, and they stayed in college. And then they came in NBA, and it's a different world. It's a different level. So to stay in college. You still got to make the adjustment. You still gotta get up to the next level. You think about all the people trying to get in the NBA that window a small you get hurt or anything can happen guys. Trying to take his day. Let's move onto this. I believe Zion LIAM's is a can't miss prospect. I think he's in the same boat, not quite LeBron. But in that same boat as LeBron James, do you feel zion's can't miss? Now, LeBron once you say LeBron I'm off like I'm in a different conversation. 'cause LeBron is top five. If you're hater. He's top three. Probably if you really looking at basketball and giving it really his proper value. You can be great. You could be amazing. You can be excellent. You could be Anthony Davis is Anthony Davis top fifty all time. Some would say, no, we'll say maybe Surjit to that place. But the point is a perennial all-star is still not LeBron the Browns another echelon in the future hall of famers. He's in that private room that most can't get into. So to say he's going to be like LeBron so many lead and tells the patient is the same height, then -ticipant, but you talking about in the Bronx where he has finished at when the Brian came into the league everybody was like, oh my God. He's going right. He's gonna take you don't have that saying, I don't I don't even know he's a finesse bully ball player. He doesn't play bully ball. But he has the ability to, but he's a finesse style player. I don't see Roark. I manned polished. He does he's. He's I on as the face of the NBA over the next. No, you still got Katie you got Steph curry, you got a lot of guys about immediately. But I'm talking about when I say Cam media star. But immediately he's going to be a star. But I'm saying you don't think five years from now he's going to be the top player in the league and the face of league. I don't why not I just feel like. His talent is already to the point where he's almost recess peak. He can learn how to shoot and he can lose some weight. But as far as anything else, he's athlete, and I've seen a lot of guys that come in the game that can jump real explosive if they don't add onto their game. They stay the same their whole career. When athlete loses athleticism. He really doesn't have anything to his game. So if you can ask them stuff, maybe, but as of now, I don't see I wouldn't I wouldn't meet personally, I wouldn't call him a can't miss prospect. I will call him a pass over prospect at the number one because I think whoev- whoever passes if they pass all him at number one. Then that owner that GM is going to be ridiculed for life of this guy ends up turning out to be. Yeah. You've gotta draft them just from that. Like, even if you waffling like John Miranda had him on my podcast last week. Even if you're waffling between those two you gotta go with Zion. Just because you know, people like yourself and everybody else believe he's going to be the next libra. I don't know. I don't know to me. I knew the Brown was going to be a star. I did. I don't know. What view I know he has to potential. I knew he has the tools it's something we've never seen before. But I'm not so bad same. I'm not sold. He's going to be a squirrel up and help me out with this in. How did you feel about light? And I know this is years ago when you were just a baby or maybe not even alive when Charles Barkley came into the league, I was three did you not think he was going to be? I wanna say, okay. Maybe the guy won't be LeBron or Jordan. But you telling me you don't feel comfortable. This is going to be as good as Charles Barkley like this is not going to be the number one draft pick. And we're looking at it. And like all the candy. There's not going to be that. We understand you're going to be a star. But we don't know how you gonna go. You know, why I think there's two forces that have happened in. Now, then happened when bark you came out Barclay if you look at roster from number six to nine that played in MBA, Dan, they weren't the same talent level is what you see right now the athleticism. It was a different talented in. So a guy like bark we can come out there and bully his way because it wasn't the most talented guys collectively athletic more now shoot. Okay. He's home. Sad sued them. Yeah. You know bark is amazing all levels, but it was an easier situation to walk into Turgeon athleticism playing that card you play that car. Now, you in a with a lot of people now get because I watched Andrew Wiggins is going around right now with his mix tape from high school and social media pressure with the likes and clicks. And how big you are in that presence has really allow people to start saying people are greater than they are. Lebron even have social media influence when he came out. It was just like. He was on the cover sl right now. If you wanna come on Instagram, look like so he's coming in with a different presence and pressure that I think is kind of hyping them up a little more. Maybe he can live. I just see a body. That's going to get better. I believe the guy's gonna get in better shape. I believe his first step for guy. His size is amazing. I think he puts it on the floor better than people give him credit for. I think he plays with an energy and a ferociousness in a joy and a passion that's going to overwhelm the NBA. I see a better Charles Barkley. But but again, I I may be wrong y'all see something different. We're the only thing that I want to see is in college. He was able to jump over and over Powell everybody, you won't be able to do that every night in the NBA guys. Just as just as strong as he won't be able to do that. Now where he died when guys compete in knocking down you got to see all this stuff as a young guy. We we can say he's gonna lose weight. He's gonna get into all that because he's going to be an NBA system. But. When you get knocked down. He's going to get up the first time, you miss four or five sides is he gonna shoot again, you're gonna be we got to see him grow. I the hype is their hype is there when you compare to LeBron Kevin Durant coming into the hype is there, but that's what I can relate to because I remember LeBron, Katie. But you knew they were going to come in. And you knew that I don't know that like, I don't know that was I don't go on some people look. I look his physical makeup. He's six really six six. I'll say that. Yeah. He really about six six what position? I know. We're we're in a position this game right now. But there's a lot of question marks more with him than we have with Katie LeBron guys who came into the league. That's it. I'm not saying I don't know what he's going to be by just know that there's too much pressure placed on that pick to pass on it number one. We know he's going to be a point God like God. What do you say that Stephen? Oh you around. Jack, Chris aides or back do that. I'm now for. Let's move to the Western Conference finals where the warriors will be without Kevin Durant for game one nine against the blazers. But Las Vegas doesn't seem to care with Steph and company opening at seven and a half point favorites over Portland, obviously, we know what even a short handed warriors team is capable of. But Portland has been a popular darkhorse this season and just pulled off a clutch winning game seven on the road. I think this line is ridiculous. Yeah. And as you insinuated yesterday Marcellus it brought me out of my off my gambling ban Falk. I I had to hop on this line. Yeah. I had to hop on. I'm I'm going to have is too many play. I actually think Portland is gonna win tonight. I think Golden State felt like they won the NBA championship last week when they beat Houston, and they're going to be a little off tonight. I mean, look Golden State has to have a little issue with the way that they won that Houston series without Durant. That's not sustainable. This is real. Who's going to be shocked if if Portland wins tonight, and I guess pulls off the upset Igwe dollar went out there. Hear what five threes, he ain't did essence to down thirteen Shaun Livingston head double digits, and that's his January. They got plenty of lymph in depth in Portland to stars neutralize without K D on both sides. I'm not shocked not surprised at all Portland wins. I don't believe in all that under and over. I was on the AC that'd be the one seat and they had as bad as getting beat four and getting blown out every game. We believed we believe team. So I don't really believe in all that. When you have a guy like Damon CJ they come into play. I know Steph has land sleep and he's waking up Danny town. I know Damon's Whitman cook and the chef they thinking about each other trust me it's going to be a good game. I don't think it's going to be a blow out either way. I think all these guys would come to play the had to say this again Brookefield would be in the Bill showing they will there. There's so much disrespect when it comes to the blazin their chance in this series. I was I was looking at scrolling through the late the late. Great marseils Wylie's, Instagram bakery. This what he pulls. This is a good one though. If Miller goes off against the warriors the same way. He did. It gets. Okay. See while McCollum plays like he did in game seven against Denver and the blazers supporting cast gives it absolute all I can definitely see the warriors winning for. Awesome. That was good. That was this was quite alva-. Tell you right now Dame's ready for this. Yes, sir. Dame is ready for this. Now. I hope everybody else on his team is ready for him. Like, I know Damian I spoke with him. He's locked in. I know CJ's lock their, you know, my my only issue is just collectively. Is there enough right there to get four games in a seven game series against one of best teams ever. I don't know. But look if there's something special to be had there's something special that can be accomplished this year. I wouldn't dismiss them. I wouldn't dismiss Portland. I don't think that Golden State to just tonight a motionlessly after what they accomplished the Houston. And all this celebrate and they've been doing and now sitting here. They're going to miss K D for at least this game. And maybe the first two games. I just don't think that's what they tapped into to beat Houston to make up for Katie. I don't think they can just tap back into it against Portland. And so I think they're actually going to kind of relax and be when Katie that's when we go handle the series. I disagree. They professionals they champions, they know what's at stake. I don't think Steve Kerr and my Bronco these guys come out and their egg this first game. They don't come on be ready play one thing about it. I know Steph, and clay, they know they better we Katie when it feel good going. I hit ninety nine out. They're not gonna really get off. They really thinking that and Stephanos going to be a lot of times where he's going to be matched up on day. So he got to be ready to play this same like last series where they just pick picking pick. And and force you to guard guys you have to go Dame because the way match setup. So it's going to be interesting to me and tell me this Jack's they're two different mindsets. One is we're not gonna have Katie for the rest of the series Houston. Okay. We good now. There's another one. Where is looming? He's coming back. But we don't know when exactly does that mess with your psyche. No. Because like I said these guys professors dating thing about Katie right now, we got a job to do right now. When we come back. That's fine. We didn't want a championship without. And we know how to win why? If he comes back, then that'd be a plus. But let's just take care of business and not worrying about him. No issue with the cameras. No, you can't you can't at this point. Here's my question for for Chris in you Jack about Dame Lillard and Utah his hometown his city. They all going to be in the house. But can't he get too emotionally caught up? Could this be too much intensity focused passion this trying to go back to the bay and win their can they work the other way as well? Well, I think it's going to be different this time because he's had experience in big games and going to stay in the playoffs and the regular season. He asked what he points the last time he played there. I think the way he played in that first series and the way he was able to realize his game and how much energy you used in. The first reason was able to step back and let his his partner win the second series form. I think they're. Focused and I think he's going to lock in. He's going to be a different name the series. I think they play these three or four times a year. If you look out on how to step so me on top of my hair right now. But believe he's averaging close to thirty or thirty plus thirty plan plan against the war is throughout his career. He's all right. He's going to be able to have that like damn Dame is a different dude, man. Like, he's a different cat. Like this guy. Really feels like the way the world is against him. All these is like he's seeing everybody. I trust him. I know he's gonna come to play. I'm not doubt him. I just team to see. Got to see all those guys who knows to disappear we talking about mohawk. Lisa a meter last year. So that when you and you brought up that college one of youngest God got it. Depend on hill. I'm concerned. He does. With lock. And while he joined now by FOX NFL analyst, Mark Larry former Pro Bowl linebacker quell Jackson. Are let's move to Denver. We're John Elway. And the Broncos continue their search for a franchise quarterback in this year's draft taking Missouri's drew lock early in the second round. But the veteran quarterback they traded for earlier in the off season. Joe flacco just made it clear. He's not interested in easing the rookies. Transition to the NFL. Listen, I got so many things to worry about I'm trying to go out there and play good football. I'm trying to go out there and play the best football my life. So as far as time constraint and all that stuff. You know? I'm not worried about developing guys or any of that that is what it is. And like I said, I hope he does develop. But I don't look at that as my job. My job is to go win football games for this football team. Well, flat goals remarks had some people upset including hall of Famer Kurt Warner who tweeted, quote, I don't understand all the quarterback saying their job is to be a mentor to young quarterbacks coming. Into the organization in what part of life, family, business, sports, etc. Do you enter where you say, I'm not here to do everything. I I'm capable of to make us better, including helping the next generation. I happened. I formerly agreed with Kurt Warner. But I'd like to Joe flacco explanation a lot. And I thought he said it is concisely and clearly as possible, and I must say the different way. But hey, John Elway hired me to win games and because van wilder and these guys want to win right now. And so I'm really not here to develop drew lock for the future. Yeah. I made the transition. I was conflicted at first I actually played under the mindset, Kurt Warner. We're talking about then I realized after that experience the hell am I thinking like I'm over here. Helping guys graduate to one day take my job. So once again, another issue curry story when keeping it real gold wrong. Flacco is going here smoke when he's telling you the exact truth about a non-guaranteed climate, which we play in a fill. So the guy is PTO. D? He just let Baltimore and got shipped out of town from quarterback who couldn't even throw like big about that I helped a guy who can't even take my job now McGhee here with somebody who can throw and I'm about the help him to no way. So I'm with Joe flacco on this one hundred percent, unfortunately. That's the hard stance of the NFL. Sometimes you hit these horror stories about guys not wanting to help you. But you know, I look at you. When I signed my contract with the Cleveland Browns and the colts in fine print. I did not find anywhere. Where told me, you know, what I had to be a leader. I had to you know, help other men I had to do all the intangible things to help my team win. But I wanted to in my opinion, it's either in you or not and as a leader, I took it upon myself as a veteran to help these young guys who have overcome how many obstacles that get to this point. Now, they're living out their dream. And if I'm gonna position to help them. That's just what I'm gonna do. And I think ultimately I think Joe flacco was in a dark place right now. Because when I help those younger guys it was because I had the confidence in my ability of how I prepare for the game. How took care of my body how eight and all these great things. I think he's in a dark place right now from from confidence stand point to where he doesn't feel like he can help the guy beside him because he feels like his job is in jeopardy. I look at. I look I off explain to me what. Mentoring is what is your responsibility as a player because I want to help everybody. Absolutely hell I wanna to help my team. I want to do all those things. I have enough confidence to believe I can tell you everything I know about football. You can't beat me because there's nobody tougher than me. And there's nobody from the neck up that's going to be smarter than me when it comes to playing the game. So I look at Joe flacco you didn't sign Josh mccowan. You didn't sign a middle of June quarterback to mentor young guy until the buy week. That's not what you sign him for signing him to be a starter. And this does not mean that Joe flacco isn't going to help the kid if the kid asks him questions, you know, what I believe it's incumbent upon a young player to come in and be mentor d- to wanna be mentor. D- right. I believe it's your responsibility to come in there. And to study what the professionals do. And then ask questions and be prepared clarify your point though, Mark should Joe flacco want to minute has gone up. Joe flacco he doesn't have to come in. It's not his responsibility to grow the kid up. It's the kids responsibility to to be a professional to understand the game. And then to ask the questions that are appropriate. Joe flacco won't withhold information. Heck, I talked to I talked to Lamar Jackson. Joe? Flacco was great. I did a game at the end of the year for Baltimore. He was great. Joe? Flacco was great Lamar Jackson. But you know, what? Joe flacco. Couldn't do. He couldn't talk about running the option. He couldn't say, hey, you know, what you feather that defensive end out a little bit. And then cut up view Joe flacco had no knowledge of that offense. Yeah. You know? It was great to him though. Here's the thing to quail. I wanna push back a little bit because I don't wanna cut out from a position of comfort. I think sometimes appear broadcasters used to play the game we could sound like that you play linebacker. You play old line. They got eight nine linebackers on the squad. They carry nine low quarterbacks they carry in today's in a field to Britain. So we took a whole different dynamic in that position. Right. And then if you look at it mentoring sounds amazing when it comes out of your mouth. But if you notice what you're also saying, you always talk a level down look at you every time, you said mentoring young guys, you ask security you talking about all the new gun not necessarily. I'm mentoring. Doesn't want to be helped. I get that. We can all we can all who's a real threat for you. That's what I'm talking about. Joe flacco look at the puts it that's a position of comfort. Joe flacco has played in. Meaning plenty meaningful football games. He's won a Super Bowl. He's made a ton of money. But yet still he's he's still feels threatened by this guy. I I agree with your point Mark. He's going to as a veteran. You're gonna come in and go to work where your hard hat. It's up to the younger gas to understand. Okay. How do I improve myself when I was a young guy. I had William mcginnis in our locker room, and guess what? Hey, man, how do you? How do you play in a league as long as she did? How do you take care of your body? I ask those questions. So it opened the door for more veterans to come and give me all their knowledge would him coming out and saying it it kind of I had to sit back a bills. You don't have to say it just go out and do it and those things are kind of naturally organically happen. But I've been in this position before too. I walked in lock boost miffed there, I'm a second round or same kind of situation. He's older veteran not threatened. But it. Same time. He's like one I got to see if you good enough to even mentor through to do you want to be mid tour, and what kind of relationship can we establish, but before that Brucie were towing tripping on you? I am not a good thing or bad thing. Like didn't exist into our saw something in you. And then we established to flacco just basically saying I've got a lot on my plate. And it ain't the second round right now. Like if he was just we could deal with that. As mean, his his comments were true to heart is very fair it one hundred percent, and it is you know, what he has got so much on his plate, and he's trying to reestablish himself. As a quarterback, maybe not an elite quarterback whatever that next level of quarterback is he's trying to reestablish his career. So. That's so many things that you're trying to do in alternately. Like, you said, he's got von Miller. He's guys out there. Chris here's junior to get him re-signed these guys out there. Emmanuel sanders. They have got guys that that wanna win that haven't had an opportunity with they're bringing him in there for that opportunity. Like, it's not his job. It's the it's the young players job to me to be worth mentally and to understand. And I say this all the time I say this to my son all the time when he became a professional baseball player. Just because you play a pro sport doesn't make you professional. You've got to learn how to be a professional and it's not Joe flacco 's he's not diaper changing. That's not his job right now. But, you know, this nobody is bitter mentor to my main right here right ankle, Jimmy Darnell. But you noticing level like he always. Wiley, Stephen Jackson, and Mark slur at the back time just anti-social man Dardanelle Smith. I like the way we should hold on. I got some beef Marcellus last segment. What do it's on my own with my level? Today dying. I Joe flacco now me. Wasn't poppet solve an NBA. We're thirty four years ago. The Knicks won the nights eighty five NBA draft lottery. The first of its kind that went on the Dr Patrick human with that pick. And soon after the conspiracy theories begin sent a lottery was rigged with NBA draft tonight and the potential all the time player Ziad being on the board. There's been whispers about this year possibly being fixed. So guys do the NBA draft can be rig. I believe that Patrick Ewing draft is the longtime pace a fan. And I was at that night. I do believe the envelope was frozen. But I don't think I don't believe this year. I don't think actually I believe the envelope was bit. I used to hit. Wayman Tisdale in that draft though. So I was kinda satisfied I'll know if his rig, but if it is rigged, this is the draft to rig to get New York guy on your back Knicks back, so I'm wooded on that. But it's a little suspicious a little weird like technology things have evolved, and we still do like ping pong balls. Like, I don't know it. All right. There's a lot of different ways. No question it's rig. There's no cloud me. You're gonna go to New York or Chicago where LA one of those teams going to get you, right? When you when you have a small market tea. I'm I'm from Denver. You gotta get eastern European Jews. That's what you when you go to. Walking Jaanus, right? He's got to build himself into a player. You'll get the top pick. When you're in one of them small markets. I wouldn't say as rig, but it could be. Definitely could charged. It would. Sticking with the NBA. Joel Embiid has been getting trolled non stop for crying at the end of the season some people alive. You this dean soft players around the league of actually been defending MB? Really, go beer of what's his opinion saying that only losers thing that crying assign a witness and then Richard Jefferson chimed in as well tweeting out playoff wins and losses. If you've never caught you've never truly cared or a committed. Let me go. I this Embiid. All right. The first of all. The guy from Utah was crying because he didn't make defensive team. That's why he would he go bear. Bear. That's totally different in the playoffs. You have a chance to win a championship. You should be hurt. When given everything you've had all you you get to this point where you had a game seven, and you lose by satellite that that rose by the basketball guys and go here, you should be heard not because you didn't make all defensive team next time. More shots be a better defender, and you'll make me that's not a reason to crack. Okay. I told you what my grandma say wants you. Call for tension. You can't hang up, right? William b like to smoke. He remote. Right. Nothing. I have a problem with crop. When I lost my days every time to get it. I know who I cry with and cry around that part right right there. I'm not giving you that not too much. That's no my wife now, I'm not giving you that. Because that's forever. And then that relationship if ever I'm just saying that's what I knew that people were going to clown him. Who is that his girlfriend? Okay, mom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember young years in the league. When you're out the playoffs. Let's go have it in. Hopefully, she's still there. I I don't know. I just want Super Bowls. Right. Going them. I don't know. Wrong prime. But I guarantee you not teammate next year. I mean, there's going to be Kleenex in his diapers me. I'm going to. I'm a run we on who who in. Yeah. I would have just taken this to the locker room. Did. Thank you share that moment with your teammates. Model Budo she opened his home in his hand with a figure. Do all that. Let's hit the links John day, you'll be using a car in the PGA championship this week because he has an arthritic knee. He's the first player to rod Carter at a major since Casey morning. Nice ninety eight from two thousand to a lot of players are upset with this decision with Tiger Woods comments day. I want on a broken leg in revenue of two thousand eight US open win. Are you guys talking here? Do you have an issue with John Daly using a car? I do. Wasn't the same. Gotta smokes class y. The same guy. Now, you wanna ride in the cart tiger. We can take it from tiger. And this is the champion is one of the best ever if you plan on a broken leg. He has ruined complain. Right. You can't complain that you've been smoking cigarettes. Welcome out, of course in whole year. That's your moment. Tim, I looked. But this to me, this is interesting. They are basically admitting that walking has an impact on your game. Which is you know, everyone who's walked eighteen realizes like data. That's that's the task. Yes, you're not carrying your bag though. So think about it like they're just walking not carrying a bag. But now someone in a court, you really think he has an unfair advantage to me. That's like an interesting. You looked at him. He looks like he's carrying. Today. I mean to me he's got an arthritic. Knee because you didn't take care of your health. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I got this is a very unfair advantage. John Daly looks week here. Tigers wife or call them. All right. A card. Question of the day. I now take it away the western Carolina finals starts tonight. And with the curry brothers playing against each other. This is the first time that two bras will face off an NBA conference finals Steve Kerr called the Curry's the warriors family of the NBA and the sound it lists like saw you and deal. They're going to flip a coin to see which parent roots were which kit one to ask you guys. Do you guys think parents have a favorite child? Absolutely. Ooh. This stop like everything in this world. We like I like that. I don't like that. Like that's a relative world, you know? So look if first of all if I'm them, the parents I have to root for after because Seth is the underdog Seth hasn't had the same love. So you always root for the underdog kid that said my kids, I have three kids. My I is my first my second is my favorite my third my baby girl. So you have a favorite of all kind of her when I just say, oh, tell them that. I feel like the Curry's parents. This is the first time that they do too much, and they cloud chasing the end of the dance. Because at the end of the day who got us who lose they both going to get hook one goes say, congratulations one of those. They don't worry about a baby you've got next year. The love is going to be the same. It's just one guy losing one guy to win. But they're gonna love him saying, they don't get a hug from daddy. They Bogle get home. Daddy. They Bobo get a hug from, mommy. One. Go second, graduations. What goes they get better their cloud tasting. No because they run with this. Because at the end of the day, we know y'all can make it seem like trying to pick up your room for you room for both of your kids. You're going to be the chairman both when they make shots. Well, don't dis those St. he do parents have favorite kids. Yes. Of course. No question. But they love you the same. I've provided for my family more. My momma might love me. I mean, my SAMA favorite. But she loves all of us the same. She treated all of us the same as real you know, what I mean? But I am the breadwinner. I get treated special. My all my aunts. Not just my mind, my whole family. It's just the truth. Favors depending on which one pisses you off in which we're doesn't. And you think you think you have favorite kids? Wait till you have grandkids. All right like my kids anymore. I love my granddaughters. What? So obvious L have kids, but I've just think about this through my parents is my brother is a better person than me. And that makes him the favourite person in my family. I've done a little bit better than my brother. And you know, mama goes on vacation because of me and lives in a house. But I think my brother is the favorite kid. No, you touching something because laws offsets I had. I've always tell people I look up to my brother, and I was wishing. I'm like, my brother me having kids by different my he has one mother kids mother. He's married work. And he's been doing it the right way. So I might be the breadwinner. Yeah. My my brothers the backbone of that's the my family. My sister, you better person to touch right here. Say she liked your brother. He is the goals to hear my brother. What everybody answered them Whitlam calls 'cause money talks. What did you do? What are you doing? I hate to pass. I was gonna come to you win like that. But. Ways. Core pool is not a bus ways. Core pool is not a taxi ways. Core pool is not the metro in DC writers ways. Core pool is not a slug line. What is ways carpool a new app that lets neighbors coworkers and fellow commuters ride together to work and home fast? Drivers say Hello to that express lane and get reimbursed for gas riders getting affordable commute and help save the planet and core is get to know their neighbors and co workers a little bit better and ways core pool is smart. 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The question here is will sitting behind e lie help or hurt Daniel Jones, I think will help tremendously actually if you look at all the hysteria and people in the criticism about him being six overall pick and how he's going to be just a bust. Okay. Disa- give time for that. To just settle down to you're gonna learn for someone who learned micro movements in the pocket because they're not that athletic ally. Manning, so your athletic talent, you have to work going some of your skills and technique. And and some of the mechanics that's alive possesses as his great attribute. So it's little osmosis. Peanut butter and jelly could work going. Why you're sitting there letting this criticism die now and starting to really learn the position in a different way to complement your game. I think it's a great benefit I do too. And look at you mentioned Carson once. Well, really, of course once had that that season where he was tremendous after his rookie season his second year. Then he tours ACL and a game against the the Rams and last year, you know, he had injury issues then again last year, and it was it was Nick foles who won the Super Bowl was Nick foles who got them back into the playoffs. I look at anytime you have an opportunity to sit and learn the your craft from a guy who's done it and done it at a very high level. That's a good thing. The other thing is when you're a young quarterback that has you have a supreme gift of athleticism, your default mechanism is from the neck down when things break down your. Tendency is a young player is to take off and trust the athletes, isn't that's been there your entire life. It's something that's God-given hand to God reached down, touchy and said, you're going to be a great athlete. Right. And so that's always your default mechanism. You have to learn that position your default mechanism needs to be from the neck up. Because if it's not you're not gonna last very long the guys like that. I picked up the ball one time fumble one time. And I thought it was going to score I got three yards, and I'm telling you I got hit by about fourteen people were bringing guys off the sideline to hit me. Those guys are angry, and they and they're fast and out to they'll devastate a young quarterback. Yeah. I just think this question is too early to answer. I think now if you go into training camp you go into preseason game. And this Shire this guy has shown he can command an offense. He can you know, the ball spinning from his arm, and he has his leadership qualities, and you know, what you start hitting that Chatto around the locker room, this guy could actually help us any city. Then, you know, now the question lures, I okay. Should this guy? Be. Playing right away or should should he be sitting? Ideally for a quarterback to play for young quarterback to come in and step in and play right away. He's gotta learn on the fly. But if you can sit back and eat lack in manage this team at least halfway through the season pecan somewhat be a Munich u of molecule of who he we've known him to be when he was great. I think it benefits Daniel Jones. But if he if he liked comes out, and he's has any reminder of what he was last season. I think this kid has a play. Let's be clear here though, about Matt Lombardo's story for J dot com is pretty good the last quarterback selected six or higher to not start a game as a rookie was Philip rivers. So the trend in the NFL is the completely other direction trial by fires how they're teaching quarterbacks. Now, we used to hey, guy sits two or three or four years back in the old days. The Tom Landry days and all the way up to Aaron Rodgers seem to have benefited from. Mm sitting behind Brett Farr. But the nutrient is about putting the guys out there. The Russell Wilson's and these other young guys and let them grow up in the middle of the fire. That's what the giants are going to potentially deny Daniel Jones. So when he does get out there he'll be further behind perhaps Dwayne Hoskins and Calamar. Yeah. And I mean that there is definitely that. There's definitely that part of it. Right. But I've also seen the opposite were a guy is not ready and a team is not very good. And a guy takes a beating. I mean, I will never forget Patrick Ramsey starting for the Washington Redskins. When Spurrier was the coach there. I mean that guy that guy there were like I've said this before, but there are people doing five to ten in the state pen to did less to get there. Then what Spurrier did of that poor kid? It was I mean there was. There was no hot route those. No, I mean that offense was just dropped back. And we're going out athlete. You know, you don't do that in the NFL. So I've seen guys like David Corbett ruined. I've seen guys like Patrick Ramsey. Get ruined by being by playing too early and playing early on a team. That's not very good. Yeah. But maybe I'm just I live in my own little bubble. But I feel like we all bring out the kid kid gloves when it evolves around a quarterback. In any other position if you can play you play with this position. I get it. There's a lot that goes on and you can speak more about it did not could I was tackling people all my career. But but I think if the guy shows he's mature enough to handle the New York media he can handle the locker room, and he can galvanize guys together and guys believe in him. I think he should be the guy. Now, we don't know if he has three years has two years of talent left. But you know, what it's crazy about Eli? He's so Teflon last year you remember a couple of years ago. Gonna try to sit him down. How do you go? So you know, if they say he after years and he showed flashes last year. He went back to twenty fifteen version of himself. But look at these guys you say Philip rivers in the top six who didn't start his first year. That's a great outlier. Patrick, Mahomes wasn't top six but still right at ten. Josh Rosen wish now he could have sat. Wait with that one out. Why you put the kid gloves on quarterbacks? It's this simple. For me. Will we played no one other positions around you on defense was a luxury. Like if I knew what the detect within the linebackers say it helps. But it wasn't in the city you'll get under center. If you don't know what everyone is doing on your side of the ball anticipating what they're doing in disguise of rich. Like learn it in three months when you were seven and seventeen and ACC done it before. Okay. Great. But they're not me. My name is Daniel Jones you sign me. Please. Let me grow don't step on the flower before it could I will tell you one other thing real quick about playing in a position like what you played or what I played or what you played. When things aren't going. Well, for me like I'm having a tough time a tough day. I can turn it into a street fight. I might not great out. Really? Well, I'm not gonna cost my team a game. Like, you can you can turn into ultra-aggressive still gonna make some plays right quarterback. You can't all of a sudden say, we'll let me just bullied these dudes. It doesn't work that way we go. I'd like to say a word or two about the Cleveland Cavaliers hiring a Sixty-six-year-old John beeline as their new coach on the surface. The move is laughable and disconcerting beeline line is the oldest first time non interim NBA coach in history. The last time the NBA went this old the San Antonio, Spurs tap UNLV's sixty one year old Jerry Tarr Canaan. It'd be their head coach. It was a disaster tarp feuded with ownership over the signing of Avery Johnson. As the team's point guard of the future and was fired after twenty games be line has a low bar to clear, I think he'll do it. If you're paying attention. You realize the NBA has adopted be lines to guard three point crazy offensive style. Beeline. Started putting his forwards in the corners scissor cutting and Jackie long range jumpers in the early nineteen eighties. When he was a coaching a small college basketball team the system of. Actually made West Virginia dangerous and the university of Michigan a national powerhouse before. Steph. Curry had won his first NBA title beeline was meant to coach in the modern MBA can an old fart like beeline coexist with the modern NBA player. It depends on if the player values winning above the feeling of being in control too, many of us in the media associated LeBron James as Representative of the modern NBA player. The truth is James represents a handful of super talented outliers. But Brian James, James harden, Chris Paul, Kyrie Irving. Russell Westbrook prefer being individual systems Steph curry, Damian Lillard Jaanus, the Greek freak and countless other players, including Kevin Durant don't mind bending to the demands of a system that creates Winnie. It's the subtle difference between chasing, Michael Jordan, or Larry O'Brien MVP's or titles. It's easy to win MVP. Jeez. Pounding the ball in isolation at the top of the key. It's easier to win titles. Moving off the ball. Steph curry style of play continues to sweep the league. That's why John line got the Cavaliers job and the Lakers passed on. Tyron Lou the Cavaliers just doubled down on what they tried to do when they hired David Blatt in two thousand fourteen eighteen months later, the Brian rejected bladders Cleveland's coach. Enforce the Cavs to replace Blat with his top assistant tie. Lou history is repeating itself in Los Angeles. The Lakers hired Frank Vogel, and Jason Kidd in an attempt to keep pace with the modern MBA and satisfy the bronze need for control. The bottom line is clear Steph curry John beeline in the modern MBA a wind. I want him back with locking while. He's Stephen Jackson and Chris Haines back. Let's move to Philadelphia where the seventy Sixers regrouping after their crushing loss onto while Leonard miracle shot in game seven Sunday. Now, some people are saying big changes could become into the team which NBC's Tom Haberstroh reporting a rival MBA executive says Philly may explore trading. Ben Simmons to the Lakers for none other than LeBron James. This is fascinating. And I think this trade if LeBron James primary interest were winning this would make a lot of sense for the Brian James to go to Philadelphia and win you can win in Philadelphia. I don't think he's gonna win here in Los Angeles. And this would make district would make sense for the broad James. It's absurd on his own his face. Think about one you got this talk about logistically, you got to move your whole family go over there. Okay. I hope you can survive. Mr casey. Name. On your own came with doing that. Nobody leave puffy Jay Z on a New York is still here. Everybody hilly are that's one. Here's the thing focused on winning that team's going to different next year. We don't know what's going to happen with free agency. Jimmy, Butler Tobias Harris wherever you may be going to seventy Sixers and Philadelphia, and they got 'em be and his knees and all his issues and LeBron you you're not guaranteed. Anything? We got the same agent. You swept me off a little brother that doesn't feel good to me if I'm the king. So I don't see anywhere. We're just really has any substance. It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense. But it makes sense if Philly can get LeBron if any kind way what sign and trade I ever they got to make it work. I love it scientifically bullet back. Lebron and be I think that's perfect. I think to give up instuments LeBron even though LeBron is at the end this career. I like it because that gets filling to the finals every year damn near that gives them a chance to be in the Eastern Conference finals every year and. I just like it. I think it's a better situation abroad at his age if he wants to young core here, we forget, he's not going. It's going to be another season. If this is the same team in LA is going to be the same season out of the play offs to talking about willowbrook on Rome coups but bowl is not better. This is the Western Conference in the Brian got a Waco call. This is not the calm, but you can have anybody on team and get to the playoffs you take forty eight as out here because you've got to get at least fifty eight seed. Yes, let's remember this that will LeBron's James is going through his free agency process. This last go around the Philadelphia civic Sixers were one of the few teams who actually got a meeting with his as Rich Paul would that be a sit. Then no way hail. This is happening on is. Not look we we're talking about if this was strictly basketball reason. Yeah. This strictly basketball, of course. But me to myself. I've got I've gotten used to his LA wooded fake, y'all. Call them like win. Here. The Broncos whole family. Go through Space Jam space over there in Philly giving doing that provident hot. Making my point. So the priority isn't winning is not basketball right now. It's Space Jam is the shop is the one thousand version of Muhammad Ali documentary the. The. That was a whitening. Defined anything else in a moment lead duck with that you learned books. Documentaries movies have been done on Muhammad Ali LeBron need to quit it look if this was about. If this who's about basketball, that's. Fair Ron even said when he came here that it was bigger than even said like my family or part of this equation. We came follow man who's like thinking outside of himself selfish. Lease like, I got a lot of things to carry including my family happiness with the wife happiness with the sun, consistency them for your stable like, okay? And with all that he stood had MVP season. Yeah. Nameless numbers to stem, the same twenty eight eight eight doesn't man didn't make the playoffs. Stop him. Heave his team not him. MVP type numbers. Do we with me to take a deeper? Look at these numbers. They don't say what people say, look, look, just let's say you Jeanie Buss listening. He's worried about his family. And I mean my God who's going to oversee the shop. I mean my God. I mean, if I'm Jay, right? That's what it looks like. That's that's my makers. Winning coach. Had on a screen abroad. So now you've got a roster. A Ben Simmons Lonzo ball. The world ain't going to help you in the in the back court part. What what what are what are we doing? No worse live first of all Chris that you don't put Lonzo and Ben Simmons on the same level that destroys over with a little Lonzo hype is over Lonzo. I've talked up talking to already good if he stayed healthy. But I'm talking strictly to shop. I'm talking strictly from that. I get it. But Lonzo can sit on the bench and get traded someplace else if he doesn't like it. Oh, you got a chance to get Ben Simmons and some other pieces because it would take some other pieces to get those numbers right answers to match up. It would give them Lakers. Look, I've said it, and I'm gonna keep seeing the genie was and they're over LeBron. This is just a headache that they're dealing with right now. And they don't is it going to be a headache, we dealing with for months is headache. We doing we're for another year or we're going to survive the last three years at a migraine or a slight headache. It's a migraine migraine's. Oh. If they don't think is curable, but they gotta deal with it. We're gonna fake if Sixers came in here with the right offer, and they could move on from the Bronx and the wind could go win and still be relevant rather than this. Lebron that's out of the play offs. It's better for the league is better for the broad better fairly maker. So I can't do the voice you kill the voice. Toed games. Daddy, Bill Showtime, JD Kobe fifty million what she knew Kobe was going down the hill with no brakes because they put me in the seats like Showtime. You gotta remember the DNA of is frail buys. No come see been not like well. No. I I feel like the way they handled this coast situation. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if they did something else to LeBron. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't even winning the because it's a western where they didn't give him what he wanted and the other thing with the gave him what he wanted. They showing they showing you that we're bucking the system against LeBron one. They showing you that I don't even think they're bucking the system stat. I think they are acknowledging what the rest of the Lee has LeBron's model has expired, and it's a city. That's why John beeline got this job, man. The whole league is about system and coaching systems, and and not an individual system and somebody plan ice. Oh off the top of the key. Just no it's not as fashionable as it used to be the league. Has moved on. That's why they brought Vogel there. And if they can unmown abroad, and he can get someplace 'cause I'm it would be not only better for the bottom. It'd be better for the league. Lebron needs to be playing for championships these next year and the year after that. That's what's best for the brand the league and everybody, I if they force my hand, and I'm LeBron James, I'm not playing anymore. Like, I'm not going somewhere else. And you force my hand like one to power struggle. Just that's not what my legacy needs to see in terms of this is how in my career. I got forced out of plan for the Lakers. This is the place you wanted to go. Yeah. Exactly. So now, you're going to go somewhere else like the bras, not having that no trade clause, whatever like he's not going. Let's let's think through though, Marcellus let's say he gets through this off season. And he's looking at damn I got another roster that won't be championship competitive. If what we work now is his wizard. What do you say? Now, I don't think he did. Happy. Can you very happy? The sun is out. It can be happening in the sun is out. There's something going on every day. There's there's there's a point to go to here. There's a moment. Iran today. We'll go to film would. Boiler. I would he when he came over here on he said, there's nothing that I could accomplish in this league that I haven't already unless you know, where he's at. It is something he can come another championship honest, Dan. But might not care about that though. Implore like in terms of how you're going to be it doesn't matter. If gets his fourth. I'm just saying how are they Steph ever going to be tough off all time. If he keeps you all know if he keeps. No, he's not. So the three to four is gonna make a difference three to six if he catches Jordan. He got a conversation. He catches Kobe. Maybe three to four is that really going change it. I'm saying each year when you can add something to get better every year. That's what you playing forget not to just be complacent. 'cause you in LA, we'll tell you know, what I mean to another year like this people like me and Lakers fans. Talking trash on on your tired of being this weathering. Jimmy's here to help us with our approval ratings. You got any thoughts on the show so far? Yeah. I want to get to the big dummy. Today victim your day. Somebody's gonna sit there and talk about LeBron James making the Mohammed Ali documentary who the hell can who they don't want to see the moment. I'll eat documentary. It ain't Gooding junior documentary. Cuban last thirty Mohammed Ali documentary. He is the greatest come on with this real take thirty miles around to. I'm ready for the first one. Here's a highlight from our discussion from earlier about Zion Williamson Zion Williamson wishes he could return to do. So do I mean this one hundred percent. Fuck you with. No the year. Ktar. Nobody forcing your LeBron. We had a discussion about whether Zion was a can't miss prospect. I think he's a can't miss prospect, Jimmy, which rotate. He's a Kate miss. Trae miss our he came. He can't miss a meal. And that's what I'm gonna say about him. You got some of the same problem. Go y'all got to wait Brum. Hey, wait to eat. That boys. Six what's in two hundred and eighty pounds eighteen years old? The perfect science to do your job. I remember as a kid. Well, you couldn't even older Sunday paper without getting a nose bleed. Now, you think this boy go run up and down the court changing NBA players without that baby fat. Now, let me tell you Jim is special. I know about that. And despite contrary belief, they KUA baby fat down in the south. Like, you think they are as a matter of fact in some parts of the southeast embraced. I mean Jimmy is from the south Clack lackey I Don random screech. I tend to knife stubborn church. Cleats. The real gospel. About the religion. I'm gonna have God change water into Kool aid. The thing. I know a little bit about that. Right. There you go down. South Carolina appetizing is down there. Half a pound the fried bacon. Back home. They used to calls I on fast break. But you know, what out figured that out? Then ain't nothing but breakfast field backwards. China's a big big trove Barclay fan. He you know, he he's in. He'll be he hoped. He gets to be as big as Charles Barkley. I him hell. I don't him. Help that Breda. When a glass of water, you just mind. You know, all the all zone. Don't give damn about the NBA man Zion. Just care about that press box up there. For you journalists he joined to be like you and Charles Barkley. That's all he wanna do. He ain't give him damn about all the rest of this y'all talking about me talking. The name Joe walking you've been in the league. Pudding five years trying to get rid of baby fat. He's trying to bring to his role. The NFL got the Wunderlich till? Now, what the NBA better do is get Zay on the hot water, Colin Brad test. I need to ask him. If he how to make hot water cone breed. He know how to make wanna cone Brit. They got a problem. List? Diane is the next DeMarcus Russell. Jamarcus Russell that great big, bulky. Got stuck on their purpose. Uri zion. Gonna do the same thing. He will come down. They get stuck on that angel momma serve. He'll be seeing those like this. We go to. To be looking what blunders? We'll be all sticky. Look, they don't get that boy a multi million dollar contract in a one year of fifty to. No dash. The NBA going to be in for him. I'll just wait a subscription to door. Kate miss came. A meal death. What he can't miss. Let me get him up. John. No, I know. I got him at almost a perfect score all day four job performance. Twenty four all time greatness twenty-five in character. Twenty-three in often to the for a total of ninety seven ninety six Paul baby. Character authenticity ninety close to a goat. But not there that character. You ain't got Krieg who over there awards through new year. But you know, they forced me to go. But they really not force me. Then you're not being authentic. Komo ziya. We bought into your brain. You ain't got a lot of this shoot blew apart. He should've left he stayed lottery. The lottery accurate.

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Full Show - Lakers woes, Flacco trade, PG13 MVP?, Kyler Murray

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Full Show - Lakers woes, Flacco trade, PG13 MVP?, Kyler Murray

"Uh-huh. Hi, everyone. And welcome to first thing. Spurs some dental the hall of Famer Chris Carlin is. Here. About this thing. Love to everyone. Until we get to to let who in. We're gonna fly Joe flacco in a little bit on that trade. But other news going to the collar Murray's agent is calling out his critics, and we gotta talk about what's happening in basketball with the state of affairs for the Lakers on this day before the all-star break. Happy Valentine's Day. Let's get ready to do. We got love for you Lakers. Enter the break in tenth place in the west three games out of the last playoff spot. The young guys aren't improving the rotation isn't gelling, and as a result many have speculated cluding us here at this desk that Luke Walton job may be in jeopardy. But according to report Walton will definitely finish the season and has the full support of the team's front office. Nick, I'll start with you. What did you make of this decision when you heard about it? So I found the report marines thing I've found the sourcing of the report interesting, and we'll get into that. But the my initial reaction was while this was the plan. The plan was to certainly give Luke Walton this year. The full year, and that was without anticipating LeBron missing more time things ever missed due to injury Rondo being suspended and injured Ingram being suspended. Lonzo missing a couple strikes time you'd injury. So it's justifiable. I think it's the wrong decision. I think you had plenty of reasons to deviate from the plan from the intangible reason, which is how much are the young players really developing. How much was that blowout loss right at the trade deadline to the Pacers. The fault of coaches inability to tell these guys you got a job to do. This is part of being a pro athlete. That's the intangible to the tangible, which is the haphazard seemingly. No rhyme or reason to the nation. The minutes that go up and down and fluctuate. I I'm old enough to remember early in the year. We're really concerned about LeBron's minutes. That went out the window right around the time. You had reason to be. Concerned about LeBron's minutes. Coming off the injury that that tangible wins the last time the Lakers ran out of time out play or out of bounce playing. You're like wow haven't seen that one before. So I think they had plenty of reasons to deviate from the plan it would appear they are not going to deviate from the plan. I think at the end of the year, they might look back and say, why did we want to keep Luke Walton, but it would appear they're keeping lukewarm. Did they did run a little sexy out of bounds in Atlanta? And LeBron may the unbelievable pass led to a layup. That was missed. Yes. So that was it might have been more LeBron than designed. But I understand I understand your concern. I understand your commentary and comments about Luke Walton because it would be hard. I think yesterday you did an amazing job of you asked me. Okay. We'll prove it to I'm willing to have this discussion with you about Luke Walton. But give me this evidence that is going to build to swing me. 'cause I'm willing to listen to it. I didn't really have anything forms. I've been looking for people to build a right stuff or Bill to say stuff. And it is it is on the board. That Luke Walton would be fired. Now for me, I wouldn't firing because everything that the Lakers have done since they hired Magic Johnson. It had more like a Magic Johnson. We're going to be patient type of thing to it. And Luke Walton is the only piece really that was there before magic. So magic didn't pick the coach yet. So alternately if I'm running basketball operations if I pick rob Pelinka, which he did to build a davita general manager, ultimately we're going to have to pick the coach, and I wouldn't wanna have to pick that coach during the regular season. So I'm going to let Jenny bus have her way. It's her coach I'm going to allow him to coach to end of the season given that you can't control. Let's say after Christmas day, we're in the fourth spot arguing players. They're developing. Ingram. Not at the rate. We'd like Lonzo not at the rate. But Kouzmin is above what we end maybe real quick start interrupt on Lonzo. And maybe we're seeing it over the last few weeks. We might have been underrating lonzo's defensive impact. Because. And he has been developing on that track closing argument my politics because it's about the miss games. Lebron is eighteen games. How can this young team recover? And if there's another player, you don't want to be hurt. It might not be just on paper. Rondo miss four games. Rondos temendous leader. So when you have both of those guys veterans out with championship experience out of the lineup. Ingram's miss eleven games. Lonzo miss ten games to me. That's the only reason outside of Magic Johnson didn't hire. Let's make this due to regular season postseason if we make it then we'll start from scratch. Well, he can hire his own coach. But when you miss that many games, it's hard to say, I'm giving him a fair shake when guys aren't able to be on the basketball, everything with this team has been a distraction this season rotations, the chemistry development of the young guys. Lebron being out. Tampering deadline. Everything's been a distraction. Maybe this is one thing where they could just nip it in the bud and say, okay, just for the rest of the season. This won't be distraction. Like, let's take the whether this new head coach or not off the table. Is there something to that? You're looking at why you think the Lakers would would would think this would be the best move for the team would that be a part of it potentially? But I think the real reason is because the owner of the team likes, Luke Walton. And I think the owner of the team was the one in the anonymously quoted in this article genius because it does not make any sense Broderick Turner's. Excellent reporter broddrick is the one for the Los Angeles Times as one woes nationally. This one's Akl. Oh, this was a local reporter who had what? Now, he said people close to the situation you quoted, but then the kept going back to one person according to one person with authorization over the decision. Well, there's only three people that one person could be Pelinka magic genie bus. And if. Linka or magic wanted to give Luke Walton vote of confidence. They would not do it anonymously. You would put your name to it. The only person who I believe whatever reason to anonymously is Lincoln Magic's boss, who's publicly said, we love Luke, Luke Kuhn stick around. But I will leave it up to them to me. I believe Jeanie Buss knew there was a chance that Lincoln magic. We're gonna have a phone call together and call her later in the day and say we want to move on from Luke, and she was nipping that in the bud. And she was because she she is probably set it's up to them. But they read this news report as well. If I'm reading this correctly, and magical plinking said, you didn't you're not the source are, you know, you're not the source are you? Well, who's the only other possible source our boss, I guess this is her way of meddling without meddling her way of letting us know yet still up to us, but somebody told the local newspaper, he's not getting fired and so I- genie. This is her got. And he is an LA kid and he did play. For the team when her dad was still around. There's a lot of the Luke in Ingram are the only guys involved in the Lakers that predate Najib employ Inca. And so I I think this came from ownership and the Lakers are going to have to deal with it. Because I think that there are I think magic and Pelinka feel similarly to how I do that maybe Brian Shaw the long-term answer, but he's not going to do worse over the last twenty five games in Luke Walton is done quickly. Are you both convinced at by the season's end, they're most likely moving on whatever they do during the season from Luke Walton it depends on making the playoffs because I believe LeBron and the health of the Lakers can cure this. If they get back to where they were let's go December the fourth seat. Now. The reason why they've missed an I believe that Lonzo defensive point because one of the worst in the NBA after week number three June July nineteenth doing nineteen January nineteen the one worst in the league. So that point right there. We have to look at that the injuries have affected. These young kids, and I just believe firing Luke Walton if these kids were in turmoil over the trades not developing what do you think they would be with the new coach in the building? I don't believe that would give them greater comfort. So part of their development is I'm gonna stabilize it for the rest of the season. I'm not convinced that Luke Walton won't be the coach to start next season. I would be shocked if he's the coach to in next season. And that's one of the reasons why I would made the move. Now, we thought David Blatt was going to be one in done in Cleveland, and then LeBron turned on playoff LeBron. They made the finals can't fire him after making the finals and you go into next season with essentially a lame duck. Coach who your star player doesn't love playing for you fire midseason if the Lakers are able to get to the seven line, or if the war's as you pointed out yesterday, which I think very interesting drop to the two line and the Lakers are the eight there, the eight seed, and they upset the one Denver Nuggets not gonna fire the coach, even if you should've fired the coach the all star break, and then you're in the interim situation, you're one of the. Any reasons why? Because I do think it's on the board. They still go on run despite the coach one of the reasons why would have done it. Now a lot of fourteen that's eight and fifteen now since Christmas take a break coming up. Joe? Flacco was dealt to Denver that is next on one. And you can always listen to offer on the Fox Sports channel on Sirius XM. Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks ETF s options and cryptos all commission free. They strive to make financial services work for everyone. 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So you never miss the right moment to invest Robin Hood is giving our listeners of three stock such as apple Ford or strength to help Bill jor portfolio. Sign up at first dot, Robin, Hood dot com. That's I dot Robin, Hood dot com. I Nick's Sixers rookie Kevin Knox throwing down the Bonsor slam over Ben Simmons second straight night. Somebody does this to been Simmons man, Jason Tatum night before last Kevin Knox. He got eat that big fellow knocks after a slow start with the Knicks man is starting to show some of that promise coming from Kentucky man back door cut here. What a finish that is outstanding take charge. No, it would have been better. No, no, no, Cavs nets. But you wanna put at alanon. Poster Markey's, Chris with the Tomahawk are let's watch this marquess Chris bounced around the league Argyle, Jared, Allan listen this happen when you the best dunk blocker in the league, you sometimes you can come up snake eyes. Who went for Marquez? Chris got a piece of Alan too much. The worst basics told Nick, you gotta be a three a triple threat fake. Let's get them up. And I'm coming down with his car to the Tom Amand ski for basketball inside. Poly, you break thrown down and aggressive dunk over evoke zubec- sh- zoo box actually had a pretty good game for the clips last night as the clips get another win. I thought they were done trying to win. It's becoming annoying clippers traded away your best player. There's a nice little play for the sons one of their eleven nice plays. This the sons are on our highlight reel more time than they have wins. Finally, some defense here. You don't see this often? James harden, getting shut town. Josh Kogi goes goes and gets it. I mean, he basically poems at up top had to amazing exchanges back to back. We're he handled hard. Now harden was doing his thing. So got a sporty to of course. They mainly worked for it made them work for and beat them. By the way, we helpful as well nother. Nice win for the ten rules. Right. Moving on big NFL news yesterday chill. Flacco is headed to Denver in return for what's reported to be a fourth round pick the former Super Bowl MVP's deal goes through twenty twenty one but has no guaranteed money left. Flacco was the odd man out in Baltimore this season when the ravens turned to Lamar Jackson. So John Elway bringing in yet another quarterback in what has become a carousel of mediocrity at the position. See what do you make of this trade in Denver? Joe flacco, I I knew a lava the optics and commentate will be on Denver. I gotta give credit to Baltimore Baltimore since to end of the season. This look at what they've done after a very good playoff run. And that defense was outstanding the nation. Could finally see man that Baltimore. They really have a good defense. Lamar Jackson improving every. Snap along the way. Only going to get more confidence removing the Super Bowl champion quarterback out of that locker room right next to Lamar Jackson removing him. So now Lamar I talked him at the Super Bowl. And man he's so excited about the off season getting able to work with the ravens and their staff or why receivers getting better in the passing game realizing those things need to happen and not have to fight for a job not have to worry about. It is a huge relief. You can say what you want. I want to be a good teammate. All. Yeah. It's nice to have them make it that guy out of here. Man. Right. So I can flourish. If it's really my team this guy has Super Bowl experience. Great Super Bowl memories. These fans he brought them a Super Bowl like they're not going to forget that. So Baltimore men hand clap for them because they didn't awesome job of given their franchise quarterback a lot of confidence as for Denver. Hey, denver. John Elway John. I'm let you pick every other position. On the team. And there's a lot of this is I mean, we're going to keep sixty players on the roster. But John, I just need you leave the quarterbacks alone. Now, I do like the fact you didn't spend hydra pick being a fourth. Okay. For a guy. Who's can be a starter? I can understand. I like the fact doesn't have any guaranteed money. So if he gets there, you don't like him, you can't cut your, but not this in my opinion, this year's essentially guaranteed. You don't trade a fourth round pick to not have them on the team this year? But you don't have to because there is no short guaranteed money. Now, it's not a great trade. But look where they are. I thought they were a year removed from that. I thought when you sign case keenum, you know, what you're getting. You're not shopping at whole foods. You're sobbing at the local grocery store all the protas wrong produce, but it's all listening the produce will spoil on before whole food. You got a little more of a guaranteed. Okay. This case get listen you sorry. On a second. Hold on a second. His you've been far too diplomatic here. John Elway has made repeatedly horrific decisions at the quarterback position. Okay. He got Peyton Manning handclasp. He drafted Brock Osweiler with Russell Wilson on the board. That was terrible. The but the best thing. Listen Brock osweiler's defense. He's six foot eight he then tried to Brock Osweiler fifteen million dollars a year after seeing him play got bailed out by the Texans giving him more. He then double down on that by trading for Paxton Lynch. Paxton Lynch, never played any quality Sampson, the NFL but in his defense. He's six foot five and now you trade fourth round pick for Joe flacco who has been the worst starting quarterback in the NFL for the last five years, but in his defense, he's six six. Okay. This is you sign case keenum to a deal that is sticky to get out of after one year. Case keenum is exactly who case came to Ben every year of his career except the outlier urine in Minnesota and side. That's not good enough. So here's the guy you by the way, there was you had to rush to the market for Joe flacco. Okay. That's this playoff run that got him his contract. That's everything cents the playoff run the years and years of starting you, by the way, you see those numbers in yellow the yards for passing touchdown interceptors show passer rating that represents dead last in the NFL in every single category. He's terrible and contrary to what some people would tell you being a Super Bowl winning quarterback. It's not like a power up in video game where in some in some big spot. You can all of a sudden activate a magical shield like well. Hey too big playoff game activate that Super Bowl winning quarterback power that you've been saving it does nothing for you. Save young super winning quarterback. I wouldn't want my team in two thousand nineteen either. This is ridiculous. It's a terrible move that you didn't have to make. And by the way on the bright side. See, you know, how many teams in the NFL more cap space allocated to their quarterback this year than the Denver. Coz only the New Orleans Saints. The Broncos will have the second most expensive quarterback room because you pay ten million to case on the cap not to play nineteen million flacco to try to play and whoever your backups going to be aids. This if I'm Broncos fan, I'm so angry that what what were they afraid of that he's going to get cut? And there's gonna be a rush to give him a multi year deal that you if he's cut what does he signed for one year twelve million? And you don't give up a pick. I don't I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. What do you think? John Elway thinks he's getting out of Joe flacco tall guy. I think he's doing to resurrect a passing game. I mean, they don't also have the type of speed at wide receiver that would say, okay. Let me go out and get if I had two or three guys Emmanuel Sanders. Yeah. I got a lot of respect for his game. He's a quality wide receiver has been in a Pro Bowl level book you need to or three guys with speed Joe flacco, what does he been known for throwing the ball deep down. On the field. So f-, I'm not gonna put off down. They do have a good running game that offense aligns gotta get a lot better because he is getting ready to get hit in the mount high. He better get him a prescription at dispensaries because he's getting some body pain. Joe? Flacco is not going to build a move in the pocket. I mean that is the best thing about Denver is their bright young running back. How many times are gonna give him the ball next year to build setup? Joe play action down the field. Because Nick didn't point this out. That is what he does best based on what the country that wasn't on the or you know, what in the thing. Joe flacco and I'm not being smart smart Aleck here. He does better than any quarterback in the league is drawing pass interference penalties on deep on deep pats that does not account and quarterback rating. He don't get credit for that. Maybe you should they the ravens are always one of the best or had been at the long. The sixty passenger firms to end the reason why is typically he has a little more arc on the football. So the defensive backs the timing of it is not necessarily they're used to ball. Arrive in a little early. So in drawing contact with the wide receiver. That's it's not a skill is just how Joe drills and he throws it deep. But genita- your point. I know you were kind of joking when you brought up case. Listen, the Broncos to best offensive linemen got hurt last year. They traded away to marries Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, mistime and case keenum played to his career averages across the board. If that wasn't a good enough level of play giving the circumstances from case, then signing case was a travesty like when you signed case to two years thirty six million with over twenty million guaranteed. It was a one year rental then you can't structure the contract to where it's going to be five percent of your total cap to cut him in year two. But that's not what they thought. Obviously they thought he was the answer. Well, I'm going to when you look in that case keenum, you have to realize that when you living for quarterback, but I might sign him for short term deal. But I can't. Looking for a quarterback because he is not going to stabilize a franchise like that's just unrealistic like you case keenum until man, I need you to patch up. My tires until I get me some new tires by. He's no you can't go a long way with him their situation last year in the dollars. They signed him for that was a good deal by John Elway signing case. Keenum was the better deal out the second best quarterback deal besides Peyton Manning showing up on his doorstep. But then keep it think-i him for this year because he played case keenum played case keenum, don't don't allocate more of your cap and a fourth round pick for Joe flacco. I just a patch with another pet since they won the Super Bowl. He has been by every statistic category. The worst starting quarterback in football. That's not. There's no denying it. I don't get it. You know what John always doing? He just wants to make sure that that he is the greatest Bronco's quarterback that ever got that cover definitely has a covered seemingly coming up as Paul George now the front runner for. NBC? We'll tell you think. So next time I. I. Continues today with a gander RV. Newell daytonas drivers battle for the starting position in the Daytona five hundred coverage begins at five thirty eastern on one and the Fox Sports. It is that time for us to go viral last night. Joel Embiid and the Sixers were here New York to face the Knicks and beat posted twenty six points, fourteen rebounds. But it was this moment that had the internet a buzz Joel going after a loose ball almost hits Regina king. Yes, the same Agena kings for an Oscar after the game. She tweeted thank you God. And Joel b for your abilities crisis averted with the pray and handsome Mucci John music, some athleticism to not really injure some people there, Joel. Yes lucky. She didn't pay for that whole thing hair. Thank goodness. The only up because of that would have been that much longer. She would have caught one no size eighteens. Oh, Maxine just just wrist it to ponytail because there's a different limped to a lot of hair. I know man, Chris, I didn't I didn't put some money down on here. I know these things Joel Embiid solve at he'd been here in America enough. He know his all that in here. He he jumped over the woman and landed right in the in the guy's lap. Protect the leaf. Yeah. I'm just telling you when you go there, and you selected hair sometimes twenty years, thirty six hollow HAMAs? I bought it right in my life too. Pull competitive. That's what Nick right. Also here in my day. It's a true star to our on joined the moment, I'm going to move on with stores to start your morning the. Yeah, the warriors already to introduce you. Couple ponytails next week. Okay. All right. To the warriors fell to the blazers. It wasn't pretty one twenty nine one zero seven, but the headline out of this Steve Kerr his objection Golden State's head coach was tossed after slamming the clipboard protesting a flagrant foul. Call on Draymond green with under four minutes to go. Nick. Would you think loosen tough loss for the for the warriors? The I mean, the blazers got eight points on the possession in question here. It was a terrible flagrant foul call on Draymond green. But I give Steve Kirk credit. I think he knew that dream on was going to explode. So he did it. And he said if I lose my mind, Draymond not going to write. And you'd rather Kerr giddy jetted than Draymond potentially get suspended those a couple times during the year, if you're coaching Golden State, you need a couple of this. Like, I tell the kids I'm coming into the locker room. Now don't want to sit too close to the chalkboard. Because I'm getting ready to throw what chair sometime you need that especially extra motivation for this warriors. They were trying to win this thing game though, Trump lasers play played well terrible fourth quarter for Golden State on the Celtics beat the pistons one eighteen one ten behind a balanced scoring attack. Six different Celtics scored Intel digits. None of them reached twenty points. Boston is now nine and two without Kyrie Irving. See what do you make of that? Man. You never liked to because I'm a guy about talent. The more town guys you have there. The better your chances are winning. But there are some instances that man would ever you see does not appear to be real okay with out. Kyrie Irving who is their best player. They play better team basketball when he's injured. That's all. That's I can't explain it. No better than that. It's so odd because all the metrics say they're so much better with him on the court off the court. He's having his best season of his career. He's distributing the ball more this season than any year of his career. And if I was one of the teams in the east, I would rather play them without without horse nine and two it's a small sample, but it's not a tiny sample size. So it is something it's something at least to note the biggest rob something to run. They went on last year in the playoffs without and this year. They're better. All right to the big news out of the NFL. Now, the Broncos are trading for Joe flacco, which means case keenum is the odd-man out. Denver reportedly shopping. They're big free agent acquisition from last off season c can case keenum help a team in need of a quarterback. Let's look at the teams that might need a quarterback Jacksonville. Could he? Actually help Jacksonville. Like, let's not change the narrative who case keenum is. No, he's not the guy that gonna put a team over the top. Like, listen, he is someone that low. I I can't afford that Mercedes. Let me give me something else. That's going to be a reliable for about twelve months. Acura. No, no, no, not cures more reliable than hill. And no, no, no. I said twelve months I say, he's he's a nice under warranty Ford Fiesta. So listen, you know, what team could really use case keenum a team that has an overrated aging expensive quarterback. The Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos all that he's getting replaced by the listen, I think cases better than flacco. And he's lost his job to flacco cases. Probably about the twenty eighth. Best starting quarterback in football. There's thirty two teams. The problem is a bunch of those teams guys. He's better than our young guys. That teams want to give a chance to like. Right. And so he's probably going to be a back. Neither one on better than cap. Gosh. No way down throwing out there. The giants with Pat Shurmur throwing something else out there. Jimmy a little pocket. Shame and saying what's wrong with an Acura Djinnit how. At money my mocking. Okay. No finally to the best wide receivers beyond the move. We know Antonio Brown trade from the Steelers when asked to make a bold prediction. Fox's Jay Glaser said that the giants would deal del Beckham junior this off season knick. We know was just a prediction from Glading, but both were available via trade, which these White House. Would you rather have AB or Odal Odell even though he's been more productive Odell is younger Odell I do not believe is a locker room issue. The way in Tonio is now he might be a distraction issue. He's going. He might pop off the mouth sitting next to a high out of his mind. Little Wayne once a year, they might put some odd things on the Graham, but we've talked to snacks Harrison we have talked to saquon Barkley every giant player. We've talked to said I love Odell Beckham like that. He is within those for a lot of those guys. He's. A good friend and teammate. And I think his talent level is undeniable. Now, the injury concern all of a sudden, he's one more injury away. I would say from being an injury risk, right? His rookie area. The sprained ankle made a mistake him two years ago. He broke his leg. And then last year he missed time at the end of the year. So I don't think it's a trend yet. But it it could become one, but in Tonio because of how volatile he's become within the team and outside of the team with some of the potential legal issues. I would I would rather have Odell Beckham now in moving forward. Dan Antonio, and we have to be able to a grant del the type of time and a number of different mistakes that has made. I mean, they're not the same age is not the same comparison AB has been more productive. He's also had a lot better quarterback. Also had a lot better offense that he played in actually knew what they were doing when on the field with a plan of what they were. Going to do so Steidl the coaching. Yes. I don't think that trying to compare them and numbers the right thing to do if we're on the football field. Odell can do more. I think oh Dell is a smarter football player. Now AB is just productive. And he's been in that system, he's mastered that system so at this point, I would much rather have Odell, but realizing that Odell might show up one day and be like, I don't wanna be here either. That's the state of both of these white receivers. So I can understand why Jay Glazer I wouldn't be surprised if Odell didn't play his whole career in New York. I talked to Odal at the Super Bowl had a long had a couple of long conversations with him. So Odell is still growing as a young person and being in New York City. I know people talk about it a lot. But most of those people have never played in New York City. So I'm not going to say, oh del doesn't want to play in New York. But the world. World is open. And when you have a home in Los Angeles in off season. I'm just sure is it would have a certain pool on you and continue to pull on you. And I just believe that Odell will have that type of interest in other team or tation. Yes and win both. The teams are really good. Both the teams were twelve. Plus when teams this year, you yes, we were talking about in Tonio, you you were very angry with Antonio. You want them shipped to buffalo is some punitive measure in way, I think where in Tokyo gets traded to could have an impact on Odell disposition. And by that. I mean this Antonio gets traded to a great situation in a great city with a good quarterback. And is rewarded for this? Then Odell might look at it and say man, sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the exact Greece they want Tony. I mean, Tony traded to buffalo or a situation. Similar jacksonville. My looking okay. The giants might not be perfect any lie might not be my ideal quarterback. But insures hell could get worse. And so I do think it'll be instructive as to wear 'Antonio. If in Tonio is rewarded for what's happened this year or if he's penalized, and whether or not that has a trickle down effect on Dell's disposition moving forward with the giant. I wouldn't be surprised if New England look at trading for a wide receiver. One in particular aby. I wouldn't be surprised with them having the thirty second pick in the first round. And he's already got three more years. That's a perfect contract for them and agent. You can't strong arm. New England, you got to come to work, and we'll see sound not gonna play anymore and so playing with Tom Brady for the next year or two that could be very very appealing. If the patriots turn the thirty second pick of the draft into a year of Brandin cooks on a cheap contract. And then turn that into the twenty third pick of the draft. And then the next year turned the third second pick of the draft into Odell Beckham they are just playing three dimensional chess while everyone else's playing connect four like that. If that's how this turns out. I don't think Odell. I'm sorry. I misspoke and you'll Brown. I'm spoke to say for the record. I enjoyed buffalo. Jim a little cold, but I really liked buffalo. I love the organization many winners Rich Stadium when it was. Let's get back to the NBA back to the NBA. Now, Paul George is having an incredible season for the thunder. Most recently dropping back to back forty point games against the rockets, and the blazers his success has boosted the conversation around his MVP chances and his teammate Russell Westbrook gutting on the chatter saying that Paul George is his front runner for MVP. Nick is Russ right over houses. Right that he's his front runner. He's supposed to be his front runner exist teammate. But no, he's not the front runner. But he has made what listen this was a one man race for a bit for harden. I would say in the month of December Jaanus in January made it a two man race and Paul George is in route to making the three men raise. I mean, I I talked to end Tonio Daniels last night who works with the thunder and the pelicans actually he made the case that he thinks Paul George. Is above hardened? But right behind Jaanus. I think what is what I do. Think is going to happen is as people get tired of talking about hardened streak which got extended last night, but people don't care anymore. Like, it's old news at this point. Just like Russell Westbrook won MVP triple double now done at back to back years since nobody cares anymore. People are going to start to focus more. And maybe rightfully so on the two way part of this discussion people are going to focus on the team wins and the defensive numbers and those elevate Paul George now, they also elevate Jaanus, but they elevate Paul George, and they put harden in a clear third now, I don't think hardness third. I think Johnson harden the top two but Paul George career high in points career high in rebounds career high in assist-per-game career high in three point percentage he is having his career year. And so and the team is winning a very high level, and none of those mentioned his defensive impact, which is elite. So yeah, if it's a three man race he's there, but he's not the Lee. At the moment. So let me ask you this. What if the thunder finished with the best record in the west, then consider Paul George a little more? Nick talked about this race the three three horse race that we have if if that was to happen. That mean these last twenty six games, they would be playing amazing basketball. So there's enough games left in the schedule a third of the season that yes, Paul George could overtake them. But those defense of things we'll have to be baked in there. And I think Nick makes a great point because we've seen this happen before one guy's having outstanding season. By the time. We get to win is to really MVP. You get tired of having the conversation. So there become some type of fatigue over that person who happens to be the front runner. But when you look at okay, see what they're doing thirty seven wins at the all-star break. That's outstanding. So we also have to give him credit for helping. Okay. CB one of the top teams. If they if they were the number one seed in the west he continued since January nineteenth average and thirty six game forty nine percent from the. Feel like those are amazing numbers and what he's doing on the defensive and I in steals second in deflections and the way he plays like I believe he's going to be right there in the conversation. But if they were to finish a head of Golden State number one in the west hall, George would be meant the darker. He would win the MVP if they if they get all the way to the one seat. I think he could get all the way to the one spot in the MVP. I also think he's got a real shot at defensive player of the year this year. We you've talked about how given LeBron's time. Missed. He is staring at first team. All NBA is a forward something that there's only been one spot open for the last decade. Plus because LeBron look like he and Jaanus, but I do want to I just want to remind the audience bit on the ark of Paul George's career because I'm glad we finally got to a place that looked like we were destined to get to their back in twenty fourteen Miami heater defending champs and they're playing for the second straight year. The indianapolis. Indiana Pacers in the conference finals game five elimination game for the Pacers. Paul George goes, I I with LeBron James pros up thirty six six two in six had just turned twenty four years old. And that was the game where LeBron Dapitan up at mid court after a end of quarter shot. Now, they ended up losing the next game. The heat go onto the NBA finals, we thought okay, Paul George is the next superstar a few weeks later, shattered his leg. And then we thought okay. What will it do to his career? And now he's gotten to the place that looked like he was going to get to a twenty five. Now, he's gotten to the place that look like who's going to get to in twenty fifteen when he missed that full year. I'm I'm so happy for him, and he has been so validated. In his decision to stay Russ's been so validated. In his putting his arms around him and taking a backseat that he deserves to be in this level of discussion Yonathan hardened just to me are still having better year. And that's the reason why. Rush should be saying things like that about Paul George, and you make a point f they were able to get that question. Hadn't been posed to me, man. I've already talked about that. Well, what if okay see finishes number one, then he would have to be in that consideration? And right now as I stayed a couple of days ago. He's the best two way player in basketball. He's going to be first team all NBA LeBron's not gonna make it. All right. He's getting ready to to take that spot. Not. Because bronze having a bad year is because he's having a spectacular. You're not clay, not Kawai. Right. Paul George national K D. No, absolutely, not Katie. We went through a stretch this season. We weren't talking about the thunder. We're talking that everyone else except for the thunder and slowly crept up to become very competitive team. How far do you think this team can go with Russ in plano weather, playing obviously Paul George, listen, they obvious. I shouldn't say, obviously, I believe that they like every team in the west. They're ceiling is when you meet Golden State in the play. Offs. But that means the conference finals right now, they're three and a half back of the one seat there. I think a game and a half back Denver whether they catch Denver not could they beat Denver in the second round. Of course, they could like you know, what I mean could they could the an could they put a scare into Golden State potentially. Yes. Now, I don't think anybody's beating Golden State. But let's just if you're asking me if they were to make the finals could beat whoever comes out of the east. Yes, they could. I just think Golden State's talk. I need you to look into your crystal ball and tell me house Russ gonna play because Paul George the best player. They have on the team. Russ knows that how is Russ going to play. And how does the shoot the ball and shoot the ball behind art? Because of he shoots a decent percentage. Man. They can beat everyone except the way. And if the consolation for this year is a top three MVP finished offensive player of the year. And I team all MBA. I mean that is I mean that is a top of the resume line individual season for eight percent of the guy of the season where I decided not to be a free agent. Stay in. Okay. Say absolutely right. So many questions for the crystal ball. But I'm gonna get yours in there at some point hours and hours your group. Coming up for the Lakers making the right call seeking with Luke Walton. That's ahead. Joined by paper, Valentine's Day, guests Super Bowl champ. Chris kenny. Valentine's man, my perfect gift big box of chocolates. I see why are you say just say that box of chocolate, I really hope was not about to call Chris box. Oh. I wouldn't have been Chris can't box chocolate things. Loosed debated quarterback coming out of the draft next here. We'll be Kyla Murray Murray announced he was choosing full of baseball last week despite his rising draft stock many doubted his ability to thrive dude, his diminutive stature his new agent. Eric Burkhard had a message for those doubters yesterday. Baller is not some little shrimp. They're making guy. See people have them in one hundred and seventy one hundred eighty pounds this kid ways to five yesterday. The F up these days in age of old NFL dinosaurs. And scout the sit back and talk about what players keep new OTT knew that he's not this. He's not that those are the losers. I mean, sorry, that's what it is. You want all your requirements and all of that? That's not what the NFL game is today. All right. Who is he comparing into maybe the Paxton Lynch is and the Joe flacco and all those tall guys. It didn't quite work out there in Denver. Chris Kenny, what do you? Make collars agent had to say Carlos Asian is doing what an agent does. Asian is basically a glorified salesman. He's trying to sell him to the fan bases of perspective teams that that are thinking about drafting him. But he's also trying to explain why the criticism. Kyla Murray is not fair. I completely agree with them. I mean in terms of the way we look at the prototype for the quarterback position. I think we gotta just add a little bit CeCe based on how the rules are now in today's game all of its landing toward the offense. Particularly protecting the quarterback whether he's into pocket or outside the pocket. I mean, we've seen quarterbacks that are more slight stature have success. I mean, two of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL or right around sixty toll that being drew Brees. And Russell Wilson. Yeah. We saw Baker Mayfield had outstanding see rookie season breaking the rookie touchdown passing record. He's coming from the same offense. That calamari is coming out of. Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. If you look at Baker mayfield's last season in college and comparison to what kinda Murray did last year. I mean, the numbers are really similar. I mean, if you were going to say one quarterback had the edge would probably give it the column or just what he added in the ground game. So I look at this and say you have to rethink the conventional norms regarding the quarterback position just based on today's rules. And when I looked at the tape for calamari, I see a productive football player. I don't just see an athlete playing quarterback see quarterback. That's happens to be an athlete, and that comes from a guy who made his living in the trenches as a how tall you can't say six eight plan defensive tackle. So if it was going to be a guy against him. It would be a guy like Chris Canty played in the trenches. He's not gonna build throw it around me. He's not going build do certain things within the pocket. So for me. That's a tremendous endorsed sushi to add to your port the quarterback in the NFL that lead and batted passes rate last season just happened to be the quarterback that got traded to Denver Joe flacco how tall. Does he says check exactly so I mean, there is no correlation between quarterbacks height and batted passes. I think that's one of those miss that. We have to dispel, okay? Hold on JoJo. I disagree with that. Last point. There is a coral just because Joe flacco is bad enough to hear it can't take advantage of his height. Doesn't mean shorter quarterbacks aren't more likely to have passes bad at the line of scrimmage. I'm not saying to one to one it's not a direct correlation like that. But you are more likely to struggle throwing over your offense of linemen and the defensive linemen hands raised their shorter. You are additionally you're going to have to throw with more into patient because they're going to be more blind spots. When receivers coming across the field that you simply can't see I I respect what the agent is doing, and I agree with you entirely. This is good agent and a great age inning. And he say any way to oh five. Listen, you know, why I said he weighed one ninety five because that's what university Oklahoma told me. You know, why I said he's under five ten because that's what the university of Oklahoma told me and. While he can gain weight between college and the pros, he ain't going gain height, except for the hair, and that doesn't count so this he would be this is a fact not an opinion. He if he's successful. He would be shortest successful quarterback and NFL history. I just need to see it. I I just I for me to be willing to spend forget a first round pick a top ten pick out. We're talking about him a top five pick. Maybe sit discussion was could he go one overall? I can't use that type of pick on someone who would be the first person to ever do something. And so I like I said before I am rooting for him. And I thought he was on electrifying college player. I've never seen it translate in the NFL. What pick was Johnny Manziel. Johnny men's. It was in the twin twenty-second believe. Okay now. Johnny manziel. The only thing stop Johnny was his personality from plan in delete. That's the only thing if he didn't have the struggles off the field. Johnny Manziel will be. Having NFL career. I believe Kyle is a better football player than him. I just I don't think age is doing a good job. He mentioned the weight and everything. No. He needs to stop talking need to shut up because we got a job to do. And we're going to criticize every college player because our job once they stop when they finish the national championship the bowl series where they finish their last game. Our job is to tell people what they can do. And what they can't do and you seem to be fine with that. When we told people about Johnny Manziel, and we hype Johnny Manziel up where he shouldn't have been in the first round. He should have been a second round pick with the character flaws the bad things that he did off the field that the lack of end of the pimple all the things that he did lead ISM that he. Oh, man. I mean, the privilege that he he was expecting when when he came in the pro football he shouldn't have been I first round pick. But when you represented him, and we say good things about him. And he was short and Cuyler does have a better body. He's a little bit shorter. Johnny Manziel and has a better throwing motion then Johnny Manziel. He throws more over the top and has better dissipation than Johnny Mozelle. Johnny Manziel, and he hadn't have all these things off the field. So for me he is a first round pick. And if the Asian just shuts up and let us do our job because that is our job to build a pick apart all these players and tell you what they did in college, and what will not transfer and what will transfer to the NFL game. And I do believe he will be starting quarterback. Because a venture someone is going to build a do it. And if they hadn't changed the rules. I would be like, yeah, I need to see someone do it. But I believe he is the guy this to your point. I think the time and hasn't never been more right for quarterback of this stature to be able to come into the league. League and have success in Nick, I know you push back a little bit on the point. I tried to make about quarterbacks heightened a it passes. But if you look at the quarterbacks that coming out this year in the top couple of rounds guys that it'd be considered first second round pick. I mean last season Daniel Jones from six five at twelve passes. Drew lock was six four had eight batted passes. Kinda Murray was tied with lane Haskins for five batted passes into Wayne Haskins six three. So I mean, there's something to the kids game. Whether it's him being able to use creative arm angles or being able to find windows within the pockets of the little ball down the field something to its offense of line in football last year, college football, okay? And that's an NFL of top of line and size. So I mean, you look at all of those different factors. It's not like Kyla Murray is just dealing with this heightened now he's been this hype his entire life. So if he's been able to overcome it and play at a high level and college football and get the Heisman. I like to believe that the kid would be able to adjust once we get to the pro level and overcome whatever deficiencies that height might present seems like we come out here. We keep making either an excuse for him or pimp bumping him up to say that he's going to make it and be successful. It doesn't seem like his draft. Stock is falling. It seems like teams are very interested. Maybe the giants made a comment that they? If his maybe. Tons of agent need to do. Right. It says stop talking is what it says Chris hands it to very evil throughout. The course. I'm the show. We'll see a little bit later on the show are the Lakers making the right sticking with lukewarm next. One basketball, the lovely syracus dunk as Sarah great to appropriately dressed, color wise. Properly dressed lovely. What about surround the Valentine's road? Yep. Of course, purple to that. Listen, they're and love that time. In the world and on behalf of them. I'm not, but I'm wearing. The show. Out of single people out there. By yourself. I'm not by winning blue doing not much. Let's about the Lakers who enter enter got the don't talk card they enter the all star break in tenth place in the west three games out of the last playoff spot. The young guys aren't improving the rotation isn't gelling and as a result a number of people have speculated including this desk that Luke Walton job may be in jeopardy. But according to a report Walton will definitely finish the season and has the full support of the team's front office. Sarah bail me out here. What do you make this decision? I I like the decision, and I understand that the narrative since the start of the season is the fact that Luke Walton is not Magic Johnson, rob Pelinka's guy. So that has always been a topic of discussion. When Luke Walton is brought up in the success of this team. It's not Luke Walton spoilt that Rajon Rondo got injured injured. The Lonzo ball got injured that LeBron James. I mean, this is a Laker seem that was fourth in the Western Conference before. Lebron James got hurt. So when you look at the rotation when you look at some of the inconsistencies, that's a big part of it. And speaking of the roster Luke Walton didn't put together this roster. And so there are a variety of things that I understand the argument. I understand you look at that loss against Lanta, the poor body language the way in which team didn't seem to have the right approach going into the all star break as you would expect given where they are in the standings. But I to me I think Luke Walton is the guy that you let finish out the season. If you want to make some decisions reevaluate things after the year. But but right now, I like the fact that we'll see what happens, but that they are saying with him. I agree with you. I think that they should stay through the season. I think even if you think that Luke is not a good exit those coach if you think that he's not the right guy to develop the young town all those things, I I can okay, I'm willing to accept those things. But if I'm not a good coach. How do I put together a game plan? For fifty six games where LeBron James out eighteen Rondo who I didn't find them. They signed them. So I got to come up with the game plan. He misses thirty four game. Lonzo ball still developing. He misses a number ten games Ingram who still developing. I need him to vote more than any other player. He misses Levin. So how come up with a game plan night in and night out where in the in bay, there's not a lot of practice. So how do I come up with something to be able to win games? I've leave they've done almost the best that they can do. Now, the optics at the end that really hurt him when LeBron was out how they couldn't close out games. He didn't come up with the style the younger players not development. All those things man will get you fired in the NBA with LeBron being there, though, let's just let's just put out some patients because that's what Rhonda would he sign. It's not about all this year. Okay. Well, let's not all this. Let's get through this year. Let's try to be healthy for these last twenty five games. And I believe. That that would be a fair judge of Luke Walton as a head coach I give him one year LeBron James, and I don't give him any more than that. I also think you look at the fact that this team went through this is the first time many of these young players are contending for the playoffs that have expectations of winning of getting to the postseason and their names are on the trading block when you were going to the trade deadline. I think that was an emotional thing. And I know magic said you're professionals, your men, get ready and turn around and make you a man I think that's easier said than done they had never been through before. And I think that takes a toll baby the little tidbit to were not only they part of the trade names were released with it said man, we're getting ready to clean house to build to get AD. Nick, you pointed that out all the time how hard that could be for a young player trying to transition with with LeBron James and having your name in the paper reporters Ashi every that's a tough transition for young player. Besides I just need to grow my game in in continued just about right, really difficult. And you know, whose number one job is to help work them through that the head coach of the team. And you know, no one job, it is to make sure that when your best player is out you at the very least to not lose at home to the Knicks and at home to the Cavs the head coach of the team, and you know, whose job is that the day before the trade deadline when you're playing a pacer seen without its best player to at the very least make sure these guys give them whatever you need to give them to make clear. A this might be your last game with the Lakers. I know you guys are worried about that find a way to have your last game with the Lakers be a positive. I have to give you a little resistance. That's not the coach's job when you're on the trading block and people who have announced your name. It is not the coach's job in the NBA to get you focused every game. It is the general manager and Magic Johnson's job when you to that point you need some help from the front office. So I got to build take loot. That is not loose fall. Here's why I think pre-trade deadline. I would say it's the coach's show. It is very difficult for Pelinka or magic who would. Be the ones trading them away to come in that room and say guys, we still love you Luke is the credibility say guys, I keep all of you for up to me. Let's let's as long as we're together. Let's stay together. But let's just assume for a moment. None of this is Luke's poll that Luke is actually an average above average coach that the injuries. It's the Rosh construction all of it. I would go back to last year. What was the single biggest thing the Cavs acquired at the trade deadline? It was not George hill was not Rodney hood. It wasn't Jordan Clarkson, it was a re engaged reinvigorated. Lebron James, and you didn't make any moves at the deadline. And if sometimes there's got to be casualty, and I don't think Luke Walton is such an asset that you can't risk him being the casualty if what gets you is playoff. Lebron six weeks early. They need it might get LeBron. It's not going to get those younger players like how many people in the organization Ken may really trust. You said, okay. Rob Pelinka's trying to. Trade. A Magic Johnson's trying to trade them you said that. Okay. So now, you're getting ready fired a guy who who who was in there, tell them. Hey, man. I wish I could keep you got who do they trust man? Those first three years in your career, professionally man are tough like you. My my age might be twenty one. But man inside I'm like seventeen I've been playing a basketball play one year of college. If that, and I'm not ready for this professional life. They've turned us organization over till the Brian James. So man what these young players are going through. It's real and you can see they're not at their best. They're not developing outside of coups. They are not developing at the type of rate that you would want young players into me. That's the biggest indictment against Luke the younger players aren't developed. Well, and I also think there has been no real backing of Luke Walton so for these younger players, they're wondering, do I really need to respect you in the same type of what do I really need to take everything that you say? With the same amount of engagement because they know that magic plink may not be sold on Luke Walton. So I don't I think it goes two ways and terms of Walton giving them the same type of encouragement the love all of that. But I also think it's a flip side of things of they don't know if they're going to be here next year. They also don't know if Luke's going to be here, if you go in that locker room and tell them, you know, some the front office wants to trade you. But I want to keep you know, what you tell that young player when I ain't got no say around here. So you talk about losing them that right there could be the fatal thing to build a loser. I wanna keep you in everything they don't they don't think highly of you. I think, but I ain't got no say so be careful in Luke Walton this Pelinka Magic Johnson. They need to have some responsibility in this. That's break. Sarel a little bit later on in the show coming up as Jackson the answer in Baltimore. That's next. Versions. Swear, number twenty four Maryland battle sixth ranked Michigan then AB or taking on providence. In is a big games header tip off Saturday, limit thirty AM eastern on FOX and the Fox Sports up. I will get to Joe flacco with Chris Canty in a second. But first little highlight action from last night, Nixon Sixers rookie Kevin Knox throwing down the big slam over Ben Simmons. Sure night been Simmons goes for contest on a big dunk. And it does not work your spec. The and trying to take one of those charges, but Kevin Knox Cottam, you'll give respect for that. That was an one right there now. Kevin Knox didn't make the free throw. Kevin bent Simmons on a post. Allen. Yes. Someone finally did marquees Chris with Dhamma hawk listen. I'm gonna say this again. Jared Allen tries to block all these dunks. He's the best dunk blocker in the league, keeping it to pieces one. Well, marquees Chris too much power on it, man. He's thirteen since the last eight months marquees, Chrissy. I criticize Jared Allen. No like, I do respect for your. Your near. Having been noxious. Great. Oh, Jared Allen gets a pass where are those city Canada radio New York City? Pioli guys and rockets Josh Kogi shutting down James harden. Nice block step back wasn't wasn't there. There's a they had hard number last night, man. They've made hard. They studying down breath held them to forty two. Work for see. I know they like block parties in Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah. They had a couple of a couple of exchanges in this game. Now, we're getting some playoff intensity and somebody's NBA games. A great screen picture of right? When he blocked his shot. Kobe's is totally close to the NFL. Now. The ravens have agreed to trade. Joe flacco to the Broncos for what support to be a fourth round pick. And that means they're fully committed to Lamar Jackson who had Baltimore to the playoffs after going six in one down the stretch. Chris help confident are you in the ravens moving forward with Lamar under center homeported golfing. The ravens with Lamar's. They're starting quarterback. Just because based on the more skill set. I think the offensive game plan suits with the ravens do best which is play really good defenses special teams. It's all about complementary football. So when you look at points per game. I mean, it was pretty similar to win. Joe? Flacco was the starting quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens? But they weren't having this excess as a team they were four and five. So I mean when they concerted Lamar Jackson is the starting quarterback and week eleven. The ravens led the. NFL in Russia yards per game and run percentage. They were running a ball sixty three percent at a time when offense and they lead and rushing first downs. So I think those things are important to consider when you try to break down the move for trading. Joe flacco also you got factor in the compensation. They do pick up amid round draft pick. They got a fourth round pick. And the fact that they're able to save roughly ten million dollars in salary cash base that's going to allow them to fill out the rest of their roster. So I like the move for the ravens. I mean, we knew this was coming when they moved up to draft. Lamar Jackson in the first round. We just didn't know that it was going to happen. So soon, and I believe they're really helping out. Lamar Jackson by doing it. So early in off-season, I liked the fact because people talk about they like competition. But ultimately man, you want to be named as the guy. You don't wanna be looking over your show two guys won the Super Bowl guys had more success with the organization guys making a lot of money men. Do me a favor you like me ship him on down the road somewhere? So when I come to work, I have more of a comfort level in my work. Work environment. I would tell me if I'm wrong competition at the position you played at the position. You played is very different thing. Competition at the only position kicker were. There's only one guy that can play like if you were early in your career, and I don't wanna get in the throwing competition with a quarterback who's a dual threat. I don't wanna quarter quarterbacks in practice throwing the ball better than him every day. Right. When Lamar so much of his utilities with its legs. Now, I got a question for both you guys going into next season. How much of teams that are posing? The ravens we don't know who they play week one scheduled and come out yet. But whoever it is let's say it's the Browns that will they look at what the chargers did in the playoff game all those defensive backs on the field and the way totally slow down. What had been such a potent passing attack? What was it seventy Bs ninety plus percent of the pal? The plays all will team try to duplicate that since we saw that was the only time all year with Lamar's the quarterback. They couldn't run the ball. Let me tell you what the Braves need to do if they put those small guys on the field. They need to break the low pencil next and run the football a lot like New England did against the Rams that is that's the counterpunch to put all those small guys on the field, man. Run the ball. Those guys aren't used to those run fits not used to. God bless 'em. God bless them. Because. That's what they the ravens were trying to run the ball in that game. Why weren't they they ran to the edges of the defense? Plays into the hands of defense that has seven defensive backs on the field got speed on the field. So you have to run Adam and take advantage of the lack of ties defensively. Like that didn't make any sense when I was watching that game. I couldn't figure out why mardi morning with wooden decide to use that big physical offensive line and run straight at the undersized defensive front of the Los Angeles. And I believe that part of Canty without talking to them. And I'm hoping I get this get this one, right? Can't these believes that how Baltimore how they make their teams up how they support their players that being when you have a Ray Lewis man, you need giant Norma's defensive tackles so's race skill level to be able to read recognizing get to the football that it will be at its maximum. So you take advantage of that they have done that with their players when they had Jamal Lewis and that Ryan attack they Jain Norma's offense of line when they had for they. Whom as quarterback flacco would they do? They went out and got speed. They always had a running attack. They always have play action. The throw the ball down the field. You got to support. Lamar jackson. You gotta get a couple of wide receivers. And I talked to Lamar this off season. He's ready for this challenge. He realizes that. He didn't throw the ball as well as he'd like to he's going to be working on all those things. So you give him a tremendous amount of confidence. When you move on from the previous franchise quarterback early in offseason. Now, let's just watch four Baltimore who I believe Ozzie Newsome retire. But they've been one of the most stable franchises far as getting good players drafting players free agency. Let's see how this organization now supports our franchise quarterback. Lamar and the we have to remember the other conversation with the ravens last year went once Lamar took over a couple of weeks in. I kept saying, and I think people you guys agreed was what they were doing having him run the ball fifteen plus times for game was not long term, sustainable what it could. Get them through that season. I think in the last thirty years aside from Tim tebow games. Lamar Jackson is four of the five highest Russia. Tim's by quarterback in any game. And it was just in eight games. He played last year. He had seventeen eighteen twenty twenty six in his first game. You that cannot be the plan next year. He will get hurt. At some point. The reason we said it was short term sustainable is. The reason it wasn't sustainable was eventually you will get hurt on a short time line. The risk is minimal along enough time line. The risk is one hundred percent. So we have to get better as a passer he has he on the ball, maybe eight to ten times a game. But he was up eighteen to twenty times. That's something that cannot be the plan for the entirety of the season in my eyes. No, I actually agree with you. That's not sustainable. Lamar Jackson is going to have to learn how to win from the pocket, but you have time based on the other things you have around the mar- Jackson, namely that defense and special teams. You got two of the best kickers and Justin Tucker and Sam Cooke National League. So I look at this situation. With the ravens and say what they were doing with Joe fac flacco in terms of the pay scale that wasn't sustainable for them. When you're paying a quarterback twenty plus million dollars a year. He's got to be able to elevate the play of everybody around him. Like, Nick, you always talk about the Matt Ryan line. Yeah. And when you start paying quarterbacks that are below the Matt Ryan line market value on a contract extension. Then it's going to hurt your football team. That's the reason the ravens with Joe flacco as started quarterback only made the playoffs once since that Super Bowl run. And that was twenty four teams. I was there. And I understand exactly the dynamic of that team and they lost pieces from that Super Bowl team. And the ravens weren't able to replace those pieces because Joe flacco was. Checking their salary cap now that it's Lamar defenses. We'll have time to prepare. And they know exactly what kind of offense. The ravens are going to put out there though, Chris we'll see later on in the show. Coming up. Did Kyle Murray's agent. Just call Nick. Right. A loser decide. Triple-double streak alive in New Orleans yesterday. He was asked about the criticism. He receives say what your game this year so much talk about shooting. But then the other things you do to make up for all this stuff. There's so much conversation about it. You totally disengage from that stuff. Do you hear what people said? I've been disengaging conversation. Basketball eighty is that hard to do. Been blessed. So. I know. That I love him so much now that's a partial lie. Here's all of it is specially stuff from other players and tries to Electra on them, and he can be a little petty at times, remember when he wore the cameraman outfit and make fun gay d and he here's what the media says. But I do not think affects him on the court one percent. He doesn't change his game for anybody criticism now Shane's his game this year to deport deferred. A Paul George but not because of criticism, right? I I need him to stop saying this. Because now my wife is watching this NBA and watching the sound bites and she sent this to me yesterday in a clip and told me that's how she was real. Yes. So check in me Russ with his spicy takes everything to most. She don't give give that time talent. So hey, Russ, man. It's a trickle down effect show people watching. Yeah. Now, you got my camera guys and stuff laughing at me spicy. So. So Ross sizing. Yeah. Awesome. Time now for stories start your morning warriors fell to the blazers won twenty nine one zero seven, but the headline out of this one with Steve Kerr's Jackson Golden State's head coach tossed after slamming his clipboard protesting a flagrant foul. Call on Draymond green with under four minutes ago. Nick, what'd you make this McGrew foul call and we're gonna come back down seven prior to this. They were down fifteen the next time. They touch the ball to be an eight point possession for the blazers. But I think Kerr was trying to take one for the team to a degree rain. Mom was going to lose his mind because it was such a bad call, and he had already been testy throughout the fourth quarter. So I think Steve Kerr felon that grenade and by the way Curtis this about once a year. But once you're throws a tantrum. Now, this is you're gonna get thrown out. You throw the clipboard that close to the refs. But I think there was a little method to his madness. Yes, he's going to do this. It's like high school co. Coach comes into locker room, the the coach normally sits by the chalkboard tells me I need you to move over. Then he gets a chair and throws it like WWE. Yeah. This was one of those moments. He was trying to motivate his team, they couldn't recover from it though. I see the big news out of the NFL. Now, the Broncos are trading for Joe flacco, which means case keenum is the odd man out. Denver is reportedly shopping. They're big free agent acquisition from last off season, Chris can case keenum. How potato native a quarterback? No. I mean, case keenum, and I told you that cases the kind of guy that you're going to date him and everything, but you always going to be in transition always going to be taller someone cuter someone making more money, but he'll give you case the cases like you'll be excited for like, six months, three months ago to a hostile and everything that'd be like realize you wake up you got still undersized quarterback doesn't have a big arm. You're gonna have to manage the dating analogy is always been tough for, Geno. Because case keenum is the prototype for guys in our history, just white, dude. And so this what is any ochre quarterback? Maybe he'll be starter for a bad team. Probably not sergeant. I look how far I've come absolutely never knows. And you are thriving now. Turn away saying they're generally the same spot right next to a mediocre white guy. You know? The most I set you for that. Finally, the most debated quarterback coming out of the draft this year. We'll be Cuyler Murray. Moreno have all the words down Murray announced he was chosen football over baseball last week now despite his rising draft, stop, many have doubted. His ability to thrive did his diminutive stature his new agent. Eric Burkhard had a message for those doubters yesterday. Take a listen. Is not some little shrimp. They're making guy. See people have them at one hundred and seventy one hundred eighty pounds this kid ways to five yesterday. The F up these days in age of old NFL dinosaurs. And scout the sit back and talk about players. Keep knew he knew that keys. Not this. He's not that those are the losers. I mean, sorry, that's what it is. You want all your requirements and all of that? That's not what the NFL game is today. Agents fired up Nick CC. What do you make of colors agent hand to say well for one as is trying to do his best job as far as trying to sell his client on NFL? But for one just take a little base out to voice. All right. Just just relax. Just a little bit. Understand you weighed them and everything I wait myself to to seventeen this morning. Come get some. Yeah. But but but the truth of the matter is this is what our job is. And when he was representing represented a number of different players, but we had Johnny Menzel and people were trying to say Johnny Manziel. It was the first round pick and guide him into the first round. When typically when you look at Johnny, Manziel, the lack of a body tight. Kyle is a better athlete and his body is more together. He's in the weight room more than Johnny Manziel. He might be a little bit shorter than Johnny. But Johnny had serious character flaws off the field that people didn't necessarily tell the whole truth about it. What was his work ethic at Texas? Am was he privileged. Did. He think that he was entitled was he that title all those things out there about Johnny Manziel would agent say then got him into the first one because he wasn't a first round pick. He should have been a second round pick. But that was okay for the agent then. So now, we're trying to do our job. And Nick, I you know, my job is a little bit different than normal analyst my. My job is not the try to kill these kids. But the truth of the matter the kid is coming around at a special time in fail. Now. Here's a special player. But the only way I can really correlate this Nick, you taught me something last year when the guard for the of hawks trae young trae from Oklahoma Nick was man, this kid's going to be special in the league to Nikki going bounce him around. But if you look in the NBA the perfect time for trae young to come in. Absolutely. And the reason why there was a model and the model was Steph Kurd, but the real thing Knicks Knicks talks about well sometime. There's baked in things that help these things occur the rule changes Steph. Curry couldn't beat a player. He is today in the eighties in the nineties, but he came into the NBA at the right time. Now, I'm not trying to take anything away from his shooting ability. His dribbling ability his finishing at the rim has he gotten bigger and stronger than I ever thought. Absolutely. But with the rule changes. That's the reason why the hawks can draft trae. And the reason why Dow with Cuyler he can be because we've seen Russell we saw Baker last year. We've seen drew Brees the last fifteen years dominate pro football. So he's fortunate the timing with the rule changes they're going to help him out. And that's the reason why I believe that. This is the time for a guy five ten it's going to play quarterback in. If there was ever a time. It would have to be now that and the rule changes, I think gave Cuyler Murray the only chance he would have an NFL history to survive, but that's different than to thrive. And if I'm spending top ten pick on a guy, I need to believe I can't if I were running team my top ten pick. When I know not only the value of the other players, I could pick. But the value other teams would assigned to that. And the draft capital I could recoup trading out of that spot. It can't be this would be the one, Nick. I gotta go. I gotta do it. Yeah. I'm gonna take him through the regular season. I'm gonna put Kyle in Saint position. Lamar. Jackson was last year. If he's in the playoff game against the chargers. Do they have a better chance to win that game Baltimore being the same team with Keiler is the quarterback are with Lamar Jack? They have they have a better chance. They have a better chance with Cuyler than with Lamar in that specific circumstance. I totally agree. And I which is also one of the reasons why while I thought it was absurd that Lamar they were telling me to change positions, and they were acting like he might be amid round pick. I wouldn't on television. And I'm not saying you were either saying he's a guarantee bona fide first rounder. I felt the mar- went about where he showed up the very end of the first round the conversation surrounding Cuyler was he's going to go somewhere between twenty five to forty. I would have less of a problem with it. Then what about twelve twenty five? So that that to me would be reasonable I, but I've heard the day. Right end. There's been bandied about could he go one like the general consensus seems to be he won't be there at thirteen for Miami. And so now, we're about a top ten pick. And then I also believe a lot of the things that are going on with Cuyler Murray. It's a week draft class. Like would Cuyler Murray have been a better prospect than Baker than darnold than Rosen? Guys. Forget Josh Allen who I thought was overdrafted because of his height like this is where I think the agents role. I think we have way overvalued toll quarterback toll quarterbacks get chance after chance after chance. Joe flacco see whomever you want and the short quarterbacks usually get one chance one chance only, but this is the short est quarterback. And that's what ever that what could you make a great point? When you talk about no one's ever ever done it in anything. But I mean, forget about we're talking about trying to be quarterback in NFL. You take any category. I'm you you have to have some type of resistance of. I've never seen it. It's never been di- wouldn't have believed in trae young the way idea to even the exact college that he had if I hadn't seen Steph. But if I hadn't seen that it's time for him to sit has to be nasty. Now, we saw that with Lamar Jackson. They changed the system to make it work for him. Jeff Fisher system wasn't working for Jared Goff. Sean McVay comes and changes the system to make it work for golf any team that takes him going to have to make that system the way. Bill Bill does with. Players that don't work elsewhere. He figures out what they do only makes it work for them. They're gonna have to put together system, regardless of height that works for the one other thing that's going to be notable for him. And it would be this would be the case. No matter is height last year. He had the benefit held having the best offense of line in his sport. He d best oftens wine in college football. No matter which team takes it would be shocking. If he goes to the best offense of line in the NFL. And if he goes in the top ten it's almost a guarantee he's going to be going to a team with a below average offense of line. So we he's not going to have the escape ability because the athletes are so much better. And he's not gonna have the same level of protection compared to the opposition that that would concern me, even if you were six two and now we're talking about a guy who's five nine and a half. These are all the reasons that I just have reservations about it. All right time now for Nick's favourite part of the show. It's called Nick makes last. Russell Westbrook said that Paul George is his front runner for MVP. But where does he stand on your listener? Or this is going to be one of our last NBA VP Lewis. It's the pre all-star game rankings. We'll do one more before the awards actually announced. Number seven that's official now. It's officially a press. Release not second to last. Seven the joker Nicola Yokich. Listen, you can't deny how good is teams thirty nine wins. He's played nearly every game this season. He's the best passing. Big man in the NBA. You must be impressed with him Nick to have him on your list. Because I yeah. Because I thought he went from way underrated to very quickly slightly overrated. But the team's been good enough. I think he deserves to be right there at seven number six Leonard. The only reason qui- is not hire. This will surprise people quiet only played four more games this year. Dan, LeBron James. Yes, LeBron missed six weeks with an injury. But quite number did will was without him. He's giving you twenty seven his shooting. Fifty percent from the field is number six number five your guy. See your preseason pick. Joel Embiid Joel the team's outstanding. He's played nearly every game this year. He's giving a twenty-seven fourteen and four he's been great should be higher. He saved a we've last night in the guard. Okay. That's like super. It's a good point number four. Steph. Curry this is another guy that would have an argument to be higher if he hadn't missed all that time only played forty six games. Good steps been. And then you're clear. Top three. I disagree with Ross. I can't put Paul George yet higher. The number three. He's going to be first team all NBA. He's giving you he's having career year career highs in every category. But the top two guys are having all time years, but we got a switch in the top two. Okay. Who was James hard? I know that the thirty seven points is remarkable the streak is remarkable. But this is an award that historically, the Russell Westbrook ear notwithstanding. Your you've got to be a fifty plus win team the rockets get to fifty plus wins. Yes. This guy's team. I know will right now the best player in the NBA. His name is Jaanus. He's giving you twenty seven thirteen and six he don't even need a last name on the list. We all know who he is number one defense in the NBA top off into the NBA. He's playing both into the court brilliantly for the team with the best record. Heard going the all star break Jaanus is your league and be impressive list. Unlike pardon my folks in Houston, I'd like that me, Paul George. I steal second deflections could be defensive MVP. Yeah. I like the top three it's gonna be hard to crack for any of those guys beneath them. And I mean, it's Fargo press release. She saw his name's not on their hurts, my heart. See LeBron even fit him in got an issue. Get a tissue. You'll be okay. We're talking about the best. It was a normal top ten list, maybe LeBron's one. But he's made it sometimes seems we'll. Oh, five hundred. We'll talk about another touch more. Check out. We're teammates, John, Gordon. We're gonna be talking before the game to me Butler and device Harris Warren have in it not so much guys. Bovin blind us so fun to one and the way he makes giants look like small people because he he appears to be Toler than his actual seven four height like because of his features and everything he just wharfs everybody, and he's such an affable character. If you could make Jimmy Butler smile, let's first time doing brother smell all. Time. So gotta be a good guy to build do that stuff. I time now for your subway choice moment. Paul George is having an incredible season for the thunder. Most recently dropping back to back forty point games against the rockets, and the blazers success is boosted the conversation around his MVP chances and his teammate Russell Westbrook gut in on the chatter saying the PG's is front runner for the ward. What did he Sarah's Russ right about Paul George? I think that the MVP discussion is three man race and legit three men race a legit three man race. I got a couple of one ABC. I liked your list Nick with that being said, I can see the argument rush should be saying that about Paul George. I listen to anyone that wants to say about Paul George because he's having an extraordinary season Jaanus is still my front runner. I was still put him at the top. But what Paul George has been able to do with this lender. Team the numbers. He's putting up and doing it on both ends. I mean to me he's the front runner four defensive player. Of the year leading the league steal second in points per game. Does that give him more votes for the MVP be and defensive MVP? I think that that may factor in for some voters when it comes to James harden because to me Jaanus, okay, another player who's excellent job. I I all defense team. So where do you start to separate it such small margins that, you're separating things you look at record? Do you look at how much of a factor they are on their team success? Because really if you're looking at these three guys in your piece in it together. Milwaukee has been absolutely rolling over team. So what credit does Janas get for having the best record in the NBA? But then Paul George in the thunder to be third in a very tough Western Conference. So all of that factors to me one of the most impressive SAS for George because he talked about this coming season. I just think it speaks to the improvements that he'd make to the way in which he's put so much emphasis in to improving the eight rebounds per game last year, he averaged five and a half rebounds per game any came into this. And he said in the preseason he said the one area wanna improve at is on the glass. I wanna rebound more. I want to make that be a focus for me this year. So a lot of eye-popping numbers that we look at. And that were impressed by to me understanding doing some of the little things for his team getting them to that point. Just so impressed with what he's been able to do this. I feel the narrative shifting away from James harden because the two guys he's competing with have things in common that people right now either fairly unfairly or not gonna sign James harden fairly is just raw number of wins. The bucks got forty three best record in the NBA, the the thunder of thirty seven and the rockets thirty three so there's the winds which is always in part of the MVP discussion. The other is these are Yoenis George are the two best wing defenders basketball right now they're having to Kalis right there as well to be fair. But Yonathan Paul George the impact on their team. Deepens extraordinary. Now harden. He's surprising people he stopped three into fluctuations. He's. Top three and steals. He's he's iding second amongst guards and blocks, but he is not having Swedes no longer a bad defender. But he is not having the night tonight defensive impact. Either Paul George Oriana is having. And so I looked like harden was going to run away from from this run away from the field and this but see before the year. I said it might not matter. What harden does I can't see the voters giving him a second straight MVP just because he hasn't had the playoff success. And I think the voters remember giving Steve Nash second straight in BP and kind of we look back on that and say who should one of those MVP's of gone to was one of them should have been in. Lebron should Kobe got one of them Shaq had an argument for one of those years. So harden, he's averaging thirty seven points at night. He scored thirty in thirty one consecutive games. When only fourteen guys in the league have scored ten in thirty consecutive games. And yet right now, I think you have you will have. As many people that have hardened third on their ballot as I on their ballot fair. Otherwise, I don't think many people are going to pull George one though. I think it's Jaanus is going to be one for most people don't have harden one. They're going to be honest one and Paul Georgia's two or three and the one thing to you don't hear with harden. His compared to every other narrative around the league who's been healthy. Like he's had scored and played this way out in the sesame. And I don't see people making that the case for him. I think that people will get a sense of fatigue because we started talking about it for a long long time. And I just think that ultimately when you're trying to separate pluses and minuses you have to look on the defensive side you talked about K D a couple years ago when he decided to leave. Okay, see and goes, Golden State. You said he forfeited the chance to be MVP, but he played so well net first year defensively that we said man, maybe could be maybe he could be. So we can't now stop doing that. When you're trying to separate these players. You have to look. Especially when you have to the Lee defenders in the MVP conversation in Janas amd, Paul George. You have to include that in the evaluation. You think narrative around Paul George changes depending on where? Okay, see finishes in the seining say come in first higher than Golden State. You think they take more serious? Look at him. They came in. I yeah, I think that would absolutely factor in and I think that's I mean, it's the same thing. We're side. One of the first things I said about Yoenis the fact that Milwaukee has the best record in the NBA. So I do think where they finish actors in. I think you also look at Paul George. He by a long shot leads the league in net rating. So how the team performs when he's on the floor versus off the floor is significant. So the impact that he makes and to me, I also think the narrative that we talk so much when it comes James harden is is he a statically pleasing to watch. I feel like so much of what we talk about whether you like it or not the numbers show, you set it. He's out a necessity that he's doing that to me. It's. Strawberry to watch the way in which he creates separation how he is just an absolutely unstoppable force on offense. But so much of the dialogue is oh, do you. Enjoy it to like it. This is what is so I think that in many ways impact versus Katie leaves? Golden State stuff only has him in Klay next year. Steph decides the play the same way hardness plane same numbers exactly the same. What we'd be saying about stuff that is back to the best player in the world. Right. I've been which is why I've been defending hardened throughout. He's done it out in sesame his true shooting percentage. People like Jackson wing threes. His true shooting percentage is identical to is's true shooting percentage. That's because he gets the free throw line. And he shoots thirty eight percent from three on thirteen game. Like that's going to Jack up your true shooting percentage. So I think hardens been absolutely fantastic. Where where the MVP conversation is tough for rockets fans is the MVP that they most think harder deserved is not steps. I or Steph second eighties the MVP that Russell won the MVP that Russell one. Because rockets fans were sitting there saying their team didn't win enough. It was he was chasing stats and right now the knock on harden is the team's not winning enough and this streak like the reason the streak didn't at twenty nine was because up fifteen with two minutes left the few nights ago. He's in there. Jack and threes. And he listen you scored eight points of two, and it's the street going to do any type of amazing things to typically you're going to have to chase dance degree. But a lot of the arguments Hugh stones used against Russ. They would then have to use four harden this year answer in that year. You have to remember what did they hold against hard his defense? Now, he's a better defensive player then. But man, I had never heard that in the MVP conversation as much as he doesn't play on the defensive and we had clips after clips where he was just a lay in just letting people pass him. So it's it's amazing. How much that has changed? But I believe that narrative big factors into next when you're talking about it against two of the best defenders and the late into the best wing defender in the league, then it becomes emboldens their case for why they should be hard. And it was it was a Hardin versus LeBron discussion harden. This year's been a better defender than LeBron. The guys he's up against though have been the two best wing defenders in basketball. Thank you for listening to the first things first podcast. Remember, leave us a review and tell us what you think subscribe to the podcast on apple podcasts and catch us on f one Monday through Friday, six thirty AM Easter for Chris Carter, Nick, right, Geno, wool so long. Everybody.

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