20 Episode results for "Joe Dimaggio"
139 - Waiting for Joe DiMaggio
"Welcome to the kitchen sisters present six where the kitchen sisters. Dave Nelson N. Nikki Silva today with America's favorite pastime on hold the kitchen sisters present one of our favorite stories waiting for Joe Dimaggio Sicilian village waits in vain for Charlton. That was the headline that I pulled a sin. It was an article in the San Francisco Chronicle April twenty-sixth Nineteen ninety-three Chilton Joe. Baseball's legendary Joe to Maggio who played for the New York Yankees for nineteen thirty four to fifty one. His fifty six game hitting streak still stands one of the enduring records in sports. We're fans of Joma show. He grow up in San Francisco the eighth of nine children of Sicilian immigrants. He played in the boys club league with the other kids from North Beach. Right here near offices Joe Dimaggio mythic heroic larger than life and it didn't hurt that he was married to Marilyn Monroe for a while. So the headline it's no wonder it caught Davies I- Cecilia village waits in vain for jolt and Joe. This is what it set Feminine Sicily. Ever since the day last May nineteen ninety-two when Judge Giovanni Falcone was killed in a car bombing. A few hundred yards from here. This tiny village west of Palermo has been desperate to redeem. Its good name then like a sign from heaven. Word suddenly arrived. That salvation was at hand in the form of the Yankee Clipper at long last the villages most celebrated product jolt and Joe. Dimaggio was coming home to the village where his parents were married. Probably coming up go to module is really pick it up at home plate. Yeah he's really something. Just tell you a little story in my neighborhood in South Philadelphia. There's a barbara was named. Frank also sings Frankie cheech and teach the boy who cut all of my sons here. I take them from Vermont to fill up having first haircut because he gave me mine auto teaches in his eighties and in his window in Southwell opposite picture Sinatra who was hip Sicilian and a picture of the module a Sicilian tells me the stories told me twenty times about Dimaggio will the Yankees play the Philippians aligned drivers at the center fuel catches loosen. Your blessing of the twenty five million Italian American life and work so enrich our country is in your blessing upon this national Italian American Foundation. Be with us now. Lord the friendship of this evening deal unequal attend informed the nowy Il Tuo Asunto speeding. Speeding your eminence. Your Talian is absolutely flawless. Welcome to the National Tag. American Foundation's annual dinner continuing events since nineteen seventy six. I want to introduce to you the members of this day US tonight. I'm Dr Ken Changli now. The Senior Vice President of the National American Foundation. I am a fourth generation Italian American and the about a dozen years ago. This flyer came across my desk inviting meets the National Italian American Foundation. Now I would never join a an Italian American organization that American but it was an excuse to go to New York City and I went I was astounded. I went into the men's room and the men were four deep combing their hair. Which in Vermont? No-one combs her hair so I knew that I was home. All under arrest the director of the Federal Bureau Investigation. This is true story. I sat down beside this lovely. Typically Italian manicured woman about sixty years of age and I instantly knew a better grandchildren and her mother and father and as we as I was sitting there. She opened her purse and she pulled out a pair and said to me. Would you like a pair? Your lips look dry. I said I love this organization. Where have you been? I want to tell you that this party today is perhaps the best party. In all of America everyone who has a vowel in the middle of the end of their names has come here we've had Sinatra and Stallone Tiana poverty and Gina Lollobrigida in one thousand. Nine hundred nine at the Washington Hilton naive honored the legendary Joe. Tony show proud to present to you. My greatest hero of them. All Jodi Maggio does that with Oliver. Says he won't be using the voice of his father's fishing they say it took John Salomon eight years to convince the elusive. Yankee Clipper to represent the National Italian American Foundation. I approached Joe. Dimaggio on the idea that It really be good to go to Italy to kind of be a goodwill ambassador for the National Italian American Foundation and he liked the idea and I kind of got a sense from him of what his priorities were. One of them was seeing his hometown in eastern Della Femina. He's a fishing village. It's a small just off. The coast is Iraq. Sticking out of the water which gives the talents name according to local tradition back in the days when Sicily is governed by Arabs from North Africa. Women who committed adultery. Were put out on that little rock and left to die and hence the town took the name from Iraq island of women. Easily delay Julie Julie Shade Lindy these saw Jodi module born in California bats. His parents Israel effeminate. We are very proud of him in. America is a big names very fast so we are very proud to know this man that he has from easily through the European correspondent of the San Francisco Chronicle Walk. I was in Sicily covering the aftermath of the assassinations of judge. Giovanni Falcone and his colleague Paulo Four Cellino and I heard from a friend who had small tile shop in easily. Dimaggio's coming to Sicily for first time to visit his village. This village that was in no way Mafia village but it had had the stamp of the Mafia's most outrageous recent act. Put upon it and publicized worldwide and They were anxious various to try their best to get out from under the shadow of that is the nation so I decided I would go over there. Does anyone here in Isa Feminine. Thi- baseball we Jubal School Schubert. No baseball year just Football red carpet is our board Joe Dimaggio and his fellow big league stars. The plane was and it was dark movie. Food and Dr Ken Changli Vice President so we got to roll the Paparazzi were there. There were thousands of flashbulbs. It looks like the Fourth of July. We got into the Chased him tight speed car chase with people trying to get a picture of job and it was like that for an entire week. We could not go anywhere without people. Found was without cameras in his face ago. Jim At don tomorrow. I made all the arrangements and I thought well. If I've got Joe Dimaggio over in Italy I can't just bring them in and bringing them out after a special projects John Salamo so we Scheduled him To throw out a pitch in the In the Rome Bologna Ballgame. Of course mind you when I sprung this on him he said to me. Why did you do that? And then when we arrived there of course he was in his element. He loved it. He was enjoying being in the dugout with all of these Italian baseball players. Of COURSE WE'RE JET. Lag Me two hours of sleep and he had to go through baseball for the professional room team which was phenomenal. The baseball Italian fans again. He went through one sixty three house on jam. Yankee Stadium series whole series hand. Joe Dimaggio throw out the first ball. Only Joe was being mobbed in Rome. Final arrangements for his visit were being made in. East La de la Feminine in order to prepare the town for his arrival. They built a reviewing. Stand are just above the fishing word. Franks of Yana. European correspondent for the San Francisco Chronicle than they'd gone out and purchased Crystal Sports Trophy. We all that recognized his accomplishments as a Qatari baseball. There were waiting for him with arms open to to know. This man was mentally moral husband. And the big champion of Baseball Baseball baseball the United States so they put flowers years. They knew that Dimaggio was. Up Muscle Joker touting the baseball in America but they had no idea really what baseball was apart from the fact that he was famous in the village for being the son of Giuseppe senior. The Joe Arose. Elliot's mother the truth of the matter. Is that demand you everywhere? In Italy was far more famous for being briefly the husband of Marilyn Monroe then. He was for being a famous baseball player. A to last year. When Johnny Manziel scamming here the town was preparing a big festival music. A lot of lights. The Sun was very yummy. Logica underneath of US jobs in order to clean the streets in the village there was a water crisis that year. This was April and there hadn't been enough winter rains and they had to divert all the water that normally into private homes into the streets so that they can clean the streets in preparation for the journalists that they were expecting in the delegation is accompanying Dimaggio from Rome. Admit nobody can take baths. My friend. Philippos Assistant kept saying. How can I meet Marilyn Monroe's husband if I haven't taken a bath they couldn't? They couldn't eat pasta either. Because you need water to boil pasta I don't think that Italian's good biologically stop eating pasta. I think that's a biological impossibility happy and eating pasta to see my Bogo but on the other foot very heavy. Jody magic waiting Joe Dimaggio. They need some more and you know we love too much pasta but they eat more than usually because they were very happy not match. Us coming here. Not Macaroni dinner is the very same dinner. That Joe Demise. Yo himself enjoys on. Man Doesn't have look village. Tell Mom to get you a package of the new view. Tony Macaroni dinner as the baggage. Pajamas your picture. Right on the front let an effeminate in order to prepare the town for his arrival fit spent on the order of twenty thousand dollars which was nearly the entire annual budget of the city council reporter Frank Viviana. They'd spend all this money and it was not just because of their pride in this child of their own Immigrants but because he's a famous a sits along the Auto Estrada that runs between Palermo and trump any on the north coast of Sicily. At precisely the point where judge falcone had been assassinated by the mafia some months before Dimaggio scheduled arrival. Almost everyone Italy could tell you where they were when falcone was assassinated. It had an electrifying effect on people throughout Italy and in particular in Sicily Alexander Stiller author of excellent Cadavers. A history of Mafia control in Italy Giovanni Falcone was a Sicilian prosecuting magistrate Who GREW UP IN PALERMO? And who again doing Groundbreaking investigations into Sicily's Cosa Nostra. He and his colleagues conducted the most wide ranging trials of Mafia figures in Italian history. It was quite a an assassination. They had hidden I don't know how many hundred pounds of under a culvert below the Auto Estrada and the judge was coming back from Rome. And he and his motorcade Went up in flames when they passed over the culvert it. It was such an enormous explosion that destroyed nearly a kilometer of the Auto Strada and What everyone saw in the photographs of this Assassination was the exit sign off the strata which read Kaci and easily defaming me so this small village which has been of no interest in the Mafia. Because it's so poor. Had BECOME WORLD. Famous SOCIETY FELL. Kony's assassination and they saw Dimaggio's visit as a way to reverse that image. We'll be right back. The kitchen sisters present is sponsored by Sikora a nutrition company that focuses on overall wellness. Starting with what you eat. Their organic ready to eat meals are made with plant based ingredients the menu of creative chefs crafted lunches and dinners changes. Weekly and it's delivered fresh anywhere in the US along with delicious meals. Sikora also has daily wellness essentials like supplements and herbal teas to support your nutrition to boost results. Try the best-selling metabolism super powder and all natural remedy for bloating weight gain and fatigue. Right now the car is offering our listeners. Twenty percent off their first order when they go to Sikora dot com slash kitchen sisters that Sikora S. A. K. A. R. A. Dot Com slash kitchen sisters to get twenty percent off your first order. Sikora dot com slash kitchen sisters in Rome the night before Joe was to leave for easily Della Femina. Joe Of the Joe Dimaggio was given the commendatore every by the president of Italy and that essentially his knighthood and after that he wouldn't attend the Italians would call a little rough dory which simply means cold but remember he's eighty. Romania had slept in thirty six hours and so everyone was concerned. And I'm a doctor neurologist than you know there's an enormous responsibility there so I said look what you call an interest to see what he says and he came to the hotel and he said look. All you need is a good night's sleep and some respite. You cannot go to Sisley tomorrow of just not the smart thing for being your age to do. Besides Joe has a pacemaker now. This was literally the eleventh hour the night before we were leaving for so engine. Raleigh and I decided that basically we could do two things we could either just simply call and explaining and cancelled or we could do what we consider to be. The right thing I I the so we called Sicily and said Look Joe can't come and the man insistently senator said in Italian. You're crazy he said this is a town of five thousand people that have spent their entire year's budget building a stone. Piazza over the water where his father used the fish called? The Piazza Dimaggio. Every street is festooned with Italian American flags. We've got the The WHO are the bagpipers from the hills banquet was invented Italy? By the way and taken to to Britain by the Romans and and he said you must send somebody so they looked around and they said well how about you and I said me can you go. He's one of our officers. It would be most appropriate for officer of the foundation to to take this role if you will plus. Ken looked a lot. More like Joe's I did. He was scheduled to arrive at ten o'clock in the morning that winter. Easy the airport for Palermo which is off just two kilometers from the village. Everyone gathered probably four thousand five hundred of the five thousand five hundred people there. Everyone dressed in their finery although read about The fact they had well the time past ten o'clock arrived Joe Ten thirty. No one knew what was going on. Finally at eleven o'clock the mirror came out of city hall looking absolutely crest. He'd received a telephone call. Joe had taken ill the night before in Rome spit up. Some blood had trouble breezy and had been promptly put into a hospital. They specifically asked me that hard at that guy said he did not have a heart attack. This someone asked me someone. Said he had an ulcer bleeding to death. I specifically said he's not pleading cold so we caught the plane down there. My goodness I'm standing at the top of the plane looking down and I wanted to get right back on that plane and Henry. Pack to Rome. Half the town without their press photographers. All over flowers ready. We knew that ninety percent of the people the lowest were expecting right behind. Us would be walking. Joe Dimaggio little. Do they know that his replacements were walking off the plane they said to myself. How are we ever going to handle this one? Some of my Sadovy Semenya Dale Watson. Visit enter the level. They might much of research shows that there were waiting like residents nine stage. They Magin Joe Dimaggio because most people resulted effeminate. Don't really him is something. Ideal would be to the innate regardless they had provided all the school children with little American flags to wave. When you arrive in the kids are being trained with bit sad. The kids have been ruled. Trained WHEN HE ARRIVED TO CHANT. English rerun. Joe. We want Joe. We wanted show so not knowing what else to do. These sturdy. Chantel rewind Joe. We chop off. I thought I was his son and we had to tell him that I was not his son and when we got there they were fifty people with television cameras all over the world looking around wondering what they they weren't sure we get into this quaint little town and we noticed that it is dressed to the hilt. Apparently the town had taken just about their tire year's budget and prepared everything for this visit of Joe Dimaggio flags on every single house going down. The street repainted. All the boats in the harbour as we walked through the narrow street town is huge. Entourage of of more than thousand people simply following us like this very long sinuous snake. I felt so sorry for job. Not being there. They took us to the church. Parents were married. The bishop of the district came bliss and it was almost like an audience with the pope versus the D job. The House of Joe Dimaggio's parents Bishop Jason. Our SHARE IN AMERICA SHOULD EMERGE. As Roma's born here. This House no hospital. Now Clinic here margin bothered the highlight of jundallah cheap Dina. That is a tour of the village was to be the house. Where Joe Dimaggio's parents I lived after they're married and before the emigrated to Martinez California the Dimaggio family even in San Francisco meet living as fisherman and presumably without the escape route of baseball. Join Dimaggio's the stayed in Sicily as GIUSEPPI DIMAGGIO. Junior would have been a fisherman like his dad as relativization. United States the Jodi my jaw by your mic USA domain cannot eat so we find a relative of Joe Dimaggio. His father and Judy Maja father enjoyed thirty. Five years. That's a works in the as a butcher incur. Bobino doing shop when we are talking last year to prepare. When Joe was not run everything was already. Everybody was waiting him. I'm very disappointed. Because they're waiting for him to Pittsburgh named for East La de la Feminists Sister City Pittsburg California on the Piazza. They Have Bank of twenty microphones and I had. My Italian is not that good and I had memorized in Italian. I wanted to tell them that. Joe Is sick and then he was very sorry that he couldn't be there. It was one of the probably the great sorrows of his life and all of the people were saying an Italian. That's okay as long as JOE'S HEALTHY. That's all we care about five thousand of them screaming. It was the most moving moment of my entirely. They felt that they had Joe. Dimaggio there by the time. They were time in fact he got done talking. Throngs of young people come up with their baseball's asking him. He signed hundreds and hundreds of balls that day. They wanted me to sign. Joe Dimaggio's name and I said I can't do that. There's no way that I could do that on the other hand. All the kids of this town wanted a baseball. That had something to do with Joe Dimaggio so I signed these. Baseball's Ken Changli for Joe Dimaggio. I'm sure it's a unique. Baseball can Changli for Joe Dimaggio joining my Jewish. Although the mayor of selecting the Feminine Bombini Abundant. This man Kam Changli like Jodi magic become very famous hearing Is Vulgar Jody? They arranged for dinner and the problem in the town was that everyone wanted to sit with your modu. This was a dinner for about three hundred people so what they did was. They took this table and they had it meander around the room. This continuous table. That just never ended. Everyone sat at the head table feeding remainder being gone right lack. Judy Majerus here the Party Gun. Well everything's gone well. Jody modules nothing here but it was like it was year anyway. Fulsome integer the orange. Well I think it was the first time that they had the opportunity to celebrate the fact that their village had in a sense produce this great American herald the most. Sit Out it. Caleb bullets the local simplicity reports about that elaborates. Nicholson it got either. Two showed defended the words that is on an effeminate Kabashi. There are people who don't want talk with Mafia but all good things and there's good deals have to fight against the assassination of Kona oversleep after the news conference. You went to the water. A fisherman happened to be coming in and I just got that that sense of timeless history for centuries those people have come in every day and we saw the unloading their nets and the fish. And I thought this is what Joe's parents or father and grandparents did. It's obvious that's where Jodi Macho came from. And that's why he is who he is. When I say it shower making sure that we still need to go get to keep the throne still waiting for him before next year. Yeah inviting Jordan. Magic to come back to his family because they are still waiting for him. Villanova growth in the this is from Ernest. Hemingway's the old man and the sea. I would like to take the Great Dimaggio Fishing Bill. Man said they say his father was a fisherman. Maybe as poor as we talk and would understand. The great sister's father was never poor and he. The father was playing in the big leagues when he was my age. When I was your age I was before the masks on a square rigged ship that ran to Africa and I have seen lions on the beach and evening. I know you told me. Should we talk about Africa or about Baseball Baseball? And think boy said I'll be back when I have the Sardines I'll keep yours and mine together on ice and we can share them in the morning. When I come back you can tell me about the baseball. The Yankees cannot lose but I feel the Indians of Cleveland. Have faith the Yankees my son? Think of the Great Domi- Joe. What do you really need a hit so here I go. Ooh John Rudd waiting for Joe. Dimaggio was produced by the kitchen. Sisters David Nelson and Nikki Silva with sound print. Our editor was Deborah. George are sound. Engineer was Robin Weiss. The old man and the sea was read by Francis. Ford Coppola Special. Thanks to the National Baseball Library Archive in Cooperstown New York and the National Italian American Foundation. The kitchen sisters present is part of Pr X. Radio took and that work of some of the most compelling beautifully produced podcasts. Thanks for listening famous street. That's not us all. He's just a man and not a free. Joe Joe Dimaggio embiid or July. The first you know since then he's hit a good twelve. More Chilton Joe Dimaggio from coast to coast. That's all you'll hear of Joe. The one man show he's blowing. The voice had Joe Joe Dimaggio Eleven. Baseball's hall of fame. He got their blow by blow. Kids will tell their kids his name joked and Joe Dimaggio big dog. We want you on ours. Speaking whispered probably stop that Joan One. Nine Cleveland Oh good battery Dimaggio. I've got some good news. 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Moment of the Day (06/05/19)
"Morning. Pete Rose was on with Mike yesterday in studio while he was in studio. He was relying a story about Joe d I'm going to play a clip 'cause you actually talked about the clip an hour prior to me playing it. So just to set it up. This was what you were referencing the best way described Joe DiMaggio is he was a penis with a man hanging from it. Pete Rose, ladies and gentleman. So then g reacting as Mike just one of those things that you knew you just it was just I mean it was out there. But if you were in the know you know, okay, wasn't talked about now. Those things will hush hush back in the day. So was well down who was not? You know, but Demongeot I mean, he was, you know, okay, he'd like to let people know he'll let you know out of the shower, maybe can't find the towel right away. You know, he liked the he, he liked to let people know that I didn't get folks folks, he didn't get Marilyn Monroe for no reason. Okay. I didn't just stumble upon all reason. Okay. One look at that thing and marriage. I. Sweeny up a little bit. And we'll talk about Jodi and his penis. One of the weird moments of the day. But there you go moment of the day. All right. Thank you, Jerry. Appreciate that.
I-5 Series Game 4 Postgame Show
"Sports fans on Henry Schulman here host the recap of game. Four the interstate five world series. Which is now northern California's to lose after seven six. Come from behind victory over the southern California's Angel Stadium the nor cows. Now have a three to one lead in the best of seven world series so the so cows have their work. Cut Out for them. Only six of forty-six teams to fall behind three to one and a world series of comeback win and a comeback. Is the game four story. Northern California was down sixty four in the seventh inning when Garrett Cole trying to rebound from a terrible relief appearance in game one allowed a two run Ricky Henderson. Travolta tie the Game Jolt Joe Dimaggio. Then got ricky home with a sacrifice fly for a seventy six lead for the northerns and that's where it stayed and then in what had to be one of the the great encounters of this series or any series. Dennis ECKERSLEY got the save by striking out Ted Williams to end the game which I'm sure made get Williams extraordinarily pleasant Afterwards Barry Bonds hit his fifth home. Run of this interstate five series but he was outdone by mark. Maguire who had a pair of homers off. Stewart is former Oakland a's teammate Henderson. Also had a two run homer that was off Stephen Strasburg and had four. Rbi's on the day we bring in the genius. Northern California manager Bruce Jenkins who chose Stewart to start his first game of the series overusing Randy Johnson on short rest and You know that the move didn't exactly pay off right there So what can you tell us about that? Stuart start it really didn't You know I would have thought that if Stewart was pitching Mark Maguire. At anytime that he would have the upper hand. I just think Stewart was the better man. Maguire's a hell of a man but Dave Stewart was sort of a different caliber and well Maguire. Let him up twice and in the time the in between those home runs Stewart walked him didn't want any part of him. So that's my obsession with Dave Stewart Ardley workout and it's now vanished but somehow we still win the game. Yeah Amion it's a testament to the to the great offense. I mean both of these teams. Look I mean you look at the offense team and and you almost hate to be pitcher looking at these rosters You know this is one of those you know. Sometimes pitchers won't watch the other teams adding practice. Certain pitchers over the years would do it just so they could get a feel for what the you know the hitters have in this one if I were a pitcher in this series whether I was strasburger steward or Walter Johnson. Whatever I I'd be cowering in the shower having a beer I mean I it just it just a top line all the way round. Yeah I you know I if I were at the park in any capacity I wouldn't miss any moments of any of either team's batting practice. You mentioned Ted Williams sickness. Tony Gwynn George Brad. All the different approaches you know bonds. Just Jimmy rollins anybody Keith Hernandez So it's an here comes Harry. Hyland look at a four hundred hitter from nineteen twenty three. So yeah it's that sort of thing and and you know to say that Stewart was a disgrace. Just can't say that about anybody who doesn't succeed in this series. No and you know Randy Johnson gave up five runs when he had an eleven nothing lead in in Game One Garrett Cole. Fantastic fantastic pitcher Really having trouble in in this series so Yeah you can't hold your head down in fact a knowing what offenses you have If you just keep the team in the game away day Stewart did that you're gonNA have a chance to to pitch them to a help them get to a victory So we. This was our first really game of this series where it was a comeback? I mean this has been a series of Teams taking the home team's taking an early lead and You know just sort of writing it on onto win so This was a different kind of game and it started the same way yet. A two run homer by Mark Maguire in the first inning than Eddie Eddie Mathews In the third Australia two run homer gave the so cal. A four to one lead and The game said on true to form that might have been in in so it would be a marching towards the victory to give them a to split in the series the northern Californians needed a jolt to get back into the game And Ricky Henderson gave them that with a two run homer in the cut. The lead to four three against Stephen Strasburg So it was anybody's game. At that point we moved to the bottom of the fifth. Dave Stewart is on the mound Ted Williams on first base after a walk. Nothing surprising there up steps Mark Maguire. Who already has a two run homer in the game? And here's John Miller to tell us what happened so here. They are again matched up. These old teammates Dave Stewart and big. Mac McGuire already took indeed with two run homer in the first inning in this game. It's tour walk in the next time. Ted Williams at I four to three southern California leading and STU delivers Maguire blast one deep in the right center field. This has a chance way back there and long gone six three southern California second home run of the game for mark. Maguire Gins gave stool now. It's four three ball game and this is kind of a slug fest And I that as a manager in a four three game this early in a game yet. A little nervous that This could get out of hand reuss. Well I am totally nervous. I'm waiting for for Ted Williams to explode waiting for Ralph Kiner to come off the bench in in in the nineteen fifties when he was the greatest power hitter the National League and I was That was pretty much nervous the whole time and I know Houston was to looking at the top of my order not to mention some of the guys coming off the bench so You know there are times where Houston. I just sort of marveled at the the situation that was in Toronto bus bonds coming up. They're down four with a chance of a slam to tie it. And the way this game ended so That's that was a big part of it. Just sort of the magnificence of the matchups well Speaking of magnificence watching Ricky Henderson get into that Crouch and explode on the baseball The power that each generated was decided behold and the your team the northern. Californians really needed him to do just that it's the seventh inning now and it northern California is now six four and Houston Mitchell manager. The so cal he turned to Garrett Cole which was a gutsy move because coal was not good in game. One he gave up five runs in relief of Their starter who was Don Drysdale And so a couple of names. We haven't really heard in this series so far. Willie McGee Jimmy Rollins to great guys from the East Bay. They put runners on first and third get on base with singles That brings Ricky Henderson to the play to on in a two run game. John Miller tells us what happened to Menon Garrett Cole in a tight spot here. Top of the seventy six to four lead for southern California Ricky Henderson with lots of speed out there. Willie McGee had second Jimmy Rollins. At first and of course ricky as fast as anybody at the plate. Here's coal trying to settle in. And he throws ricky swings and he lines down the line. It is a fair ball. It will richocheting all the way into the right field corner. Mcgee races around Third Hill scored. Easily rollins racing around third. He's heading home and he will score the throw heading toward third Henderson with a safe. A two run triple for Ricky Henderson and that has tied the game at six. All right. It's now a tie game Joe. Dimaggio comes up and of course you know Joe Dimaggio was one of the great contact hitters of all time only needed to do was get a ball into the outfield and To get ricky home and he did and now at seven to sixty cows and At that point you must've been. You must've been thrilled because I there really had not been any kind of shifts in momentum's game right now there hadn't and Joe Maggio hadn't done much in the series but there's something about him you don't just say well I'm GonNa sit you down I. It's a tough one some people. Yeah but I wasn't going to do that. And here. He finally comes through with a big sacked. Fly Right and certainly no surprise that you did that. But it's just. My team felt a little more complete their. Now we've got the lead and What are we going to do with it? Well you're gonNA hopefully which got a seven six lead in this series as offensive as it had been. You know. Wouldn't seem to save so you turn to Dennis Eckersley which Tony Larussa did Just all the time and with complete faith that he was going to get the job done except for that one game in the world series in nineteen eighty eight. He was on to save the seven six lead. That Joe Dimaggio provided with Zach. Lie and with two outs. In the night we had a match up. That really defines what this series is about. You have one of the Games. Great closers against the best pure jeter. Who Ever played the game? Ted Williams to outs nobody on John Miller last of the ninth inning California. The seventy six lead and Dennis Eckersley chew down and nobody on trying to wrap it up here with two strikeouts to Ted Williams. Hey does anybody remember the name? Kurt Gibson anybody thinking about discreet repeating itself here and a big game act with a true strikeout trying to make sure that that does not happen. Piece ask Eckersley to the plate and he struck out swinging. The ball game is over and Northern California. Now has a three games to one lead in the series beating Southern California seventy six and heading now to Ted Williams Hometown San Diego for game five tomorrow and there. You have it a seven six victory northern California's lead in the series. And this is going to be a tough one for the so calcio come. Yeah you know. I'm I'm feeling just awfully good about this knowing that we're gonNA come back home If we need to for the last six and seven in Oakland and San Francisco and Try Not to get Sound too cocky with the with the press afterward you know because I have so much respect but the thing that Eckersley would strike out Ted Williams not just get him out would strike him out to end the game. I'm just feeling like our team is a little bit overwhelming for them. Yeah and and really what you should have done was invited some of the reporters into the room who wrote stories doubting your ability to win this series and just by moon them or something like that. I mean that really would be a a classic managerial move. But you're too classy for that. Well they're they're quiet for now. I just hope that continues. Yeah like you said Game five would. This'll be the last game that will be played in southern California. It's going to shift to Petco Park. And we're also were shifting out Ted Williams hometown. So I'm sure he's going to be he's going to be really up for it Interesting pitching matchup With the hardest. Throwers who ever played the game. You got game one winner Randy Johnson. He's GonNa be pitching for the series championship for the knockouts on. He's going to be going on normal. Rest so you've managed this very well. So are notwithstanding Dave Stewart. Getting roughed up a little bit In in this game but You're going to have a Randy Johnson on normal risks and he's going to go against game two loser Walter Johnson. Who's pitching short rest? And I mean. That's what pitchers did in nineteen thirteen. So I don't think you can go into this game assuming that You know Walter. Johnson is his arm is GonNa fly off just because he's pitching short rest. I mean this is really long restaurant. Isn't it yeah it really is? I mean you know. We don't have the off days. Which is why pitchers routinely worked on three days rest with the travel and the world series. You Pitch Games one four and seven. I'm I'm kind of keeping that. That thought the two of US managers here the go with a three man. It's it's it's it's two days on the calendar but in reality if it were a real world series it would be. You'd be working on three days rest. We're just going with the three man rotation thought You know keep that old style which that was the case in world series for a million years and you know a lot of guys did come back on literally on two days. Rest Mickey Low. It'S GROVER CLEVELAND. Alexander Sandy Colfax. It actually happened quite a bit. Nate Lubar debt so We'll we'll just see how this goes. Okay and Walter. Johnson's are they used to have two men rotations in the world series so This will not be unusual for him. So thank you again. Reuss Jenkins the manager of the Northern California team in this golden greats world series. We'll talk to you After game five you might champagne on your head. You might not so good luck in the game San Diego every. Thank you for listening. Each sure to subscribe to the giants splash for as plus podcast. You can hear future recaps from this golden greats world series.
Marty Appel 7-14-19
"Good Morning New York. This is the cats roundtable John Katzman T._D.'s here Sunday morning again Sunday mornings to do new things. Let your mind wander with us. This morning is a historian. One of the New York Yankees famous historian Mardi Appel he started nineteen seventy-three spent ten years with the Yankees and went on Good morning money. How this morning excellent thank you? I hope you same for you now. You wrote a book on New York Yankees and you spent a lot of time with them. Tell us you know I grew up with the Yankees. I grew up with the Yankees when there were no max so I was always Joe Dimaggio Mickey Mantle I can name you to sixty two nineteen sixty two starting lineup Mickey Mantle Incentive Hector Lopez in or the right and and was it left right Harris was in right Roger Marriage was in right Tony Kubeck shortstop Moose Karen first base <hes> Bobby Richardson on second and clete Boyer on Third Third Yogi Berra catching your too good for me. You're the historian not me. I love the Yankees. Tell us about you stories about the Yankees well. I was fortunate. I actually started in one thousand nine hundred sixty sixty eight. I was hired to answer Mickey Mantles Fan Mail. He was not attending to it. It was his final season and the Yankees P._R.. Director Bob official knew that male needed to be answered so I had written. The Leonard Looking for summer job from college <hes> I got hired on the basis of an interview in that letter and that launched a career which to this day kind of identifies me people know me as though the guy that worked for the Yankees Linke's later on I <hes> produced their telecasts on channel eleven in New York and <hes> have always had an affiliation with them now. I wrote a book a few years ago called Pinstripe Empire which was the definitive history of the franchise back to its origins and <hes> we had a book party that Nicholas and Lens through on the West Side and you came to the Book Party. I'll never forget that all the away in the west side all away. Oh tell me your best Yankee Story. All my best Yankee story was just getting to know Mickey Mantle. I mean I grew up in New York. He was boyhood hero hero as he was to so many baby boomers in the fifties and he just had that Hollywood glamour about him. Even in a <hes> off shucks kind of way so I was doing his fan mail and there was really nothing he needed to see but I would always manage to save up two or three letters that I had to go over with him personally so he saw right through me any kind of laughed when he'd see me coming because he knew I didn't really need his inputs but reformed a friendship out of that and it lasted through his life he died in nineteen ninety four and I would always say my God Mickey Mantle knows my name Wow. I can't say that I met him a couple of times. Times but I never knew my name I guess he already just couldn't pronounce it. I remember nineteen sixty sixty two when Roger Marriage had sixty one home runs and Mickey Mantle hit fifty four sixty one sixty one in sixty one easy to remember those great memories. I I really enjoyed growing up with them. The Hall of fame we've just Mariana Rivera marriages got into it and I met him a few times and he got in it. I heard that it was unanimous. Yes he was the first player ever elected unanimously and you know we're talking Babe Bruce and ty Cobb and Joe Dimaggio and Ted Williams Sandy Colfax none of them were unanimous until Maryono Rivera so what an honor for him and what a weekend it's going to be in Cooperstown <hes> <hes> they may have their biggest crowd ever and <hes> it's it's thrilling and as you know as a prelude to that weekend I'm going to be speaking at the Emerson resort and SPA halfway to cooperstown from New York <hes> not far from Albany a lot of central New York baseball fans are GONNA come and we're just GonNa have an evening of talking baseball this coming Wednesday at the Emerson. Wow that's terrific. What is your best George Steinbrenner story and I tell you in line after that you know what John People always ask me about working for George Steinbrenner and my answer was greatly helped? In the nineties in the late eighties <hes> with the Seinfeld show 'cause I could answer to say it's just like on Seinfeld. I was George Costanza so <hes> the portrayal was closer to accurate accurate then people would imagine he was a dynamo. I went to work for him. When he bought the team he was only forty two years old so he was really full of energy then and my God he loved the the Yankees and he wanted to win so badly that all the prophets that he made he divided up to two degree among the shareholders of the team has partners but he put most of that profit back against the team always looking to signs star players glamour players the theater owner Jimmy neater lander was one of his partners and neater lander told him when he bought the team New York likes big stars? Make sure you always going after the biggest so he did starting with Reggie Jackson and <hes> that was that's his greatest legacy. I think that he put his profits back into the team. Always wanted to give the fans a winner. I'm story I I was built as he was one of my best friends and he was one of my mentors and on nine ten we were in steinburner sweet and holy cow who knew what was going the happened than evening of nine and built for gays home burnt down that night to and he had to run home well. That's my sorry that is quite a story also at that game by the way was John F. Kennedy.
Chapter Seven: Countdown To Murder
"Things are going when they started pushing her away especially bobby. She was bitter. She was mad. She felt she'd been used and abused used by everybody. In Hollywood and show business as she wanted vengeance. I also think she wanted a whole new start her life almost spiritual russell overload just couldn't cope wanted a complete change of her life was willing to throw in the whole bag caboodle miss your anonymity. Did you miss being able to go out and not be recognized and Gulf places south as it used to be famous so no one would pay attention to. I know in a way however I'm terribly grateful for everything that's happened because I remember when things went like this at all but you do miss sometimes just being able to be completely yourself someplace placing people just know you as another human being welcome to episode seven of the killing of Marilyn Monroe. I'm your host Jackie Moran in previous episodes. We've seen how the most famous woman in the world became a pawn in the power games of men. She could not control and how her position. Shen as lover of presidents mob bosses rap packers and communist sympathizers put her in the center of a deadly web of deceit intrigue and Conspiracy Chrissy. She knew things that she wasn't supposed to know okay. She wrote things down in the diary. That would have been very incriminating for high level. People people many people. I don't know Bobby. Kennedy had a motive because he's had a love affair. The doctor could've had a reason the people up in the county of the undesirable Mafia. People could have had a reason to in this episode. We will examine Maryland's turbulent last days as she struggled with drink drugs and depression was fired from her final film and and face rejection from the man she loved and ultimately will see how a degrading ordeal during which she was passed around room leering mobsters at a party hosted stood by Frank Sinatra proved to be the tragic stars final Straw and sealed her fate is take care not to be discounted at all not be pushed away in the corner. I think law and the only thing that really happen to us and everything else doesn't really matter by the summer of nineteen sixty two Maryland's personal life was in a mess a situation that was not helped by increasing reliance on prescription drugs doctors would give her you pick me ups and and also put you to sleep. She was on that cycle and it can be deadly cycle. She seems to sank that she had control over what she was taking. Elvis Presley problems too. Is that why I'm not a drug addict. Here's a prescription drugs. I don't have a drug problem. A doctor gave his Jimmy but if Maryland Orland had been popping pills for most of her career her consumption at this time increased dramatically and she was now in the habit of chasing the drugs down with champagne of course when you're in a crisis in your life you're going to take the more because you're having trouble sleeping more relaxing and functioning so yeah. I think her pill take take opt in those final months but it wasn't new to her. I mean by then. She had such a high resistance. Never particularly stable even during the best of times Maryland had become spectacularly erratic during the final days and weeks of her life. She's increase your intake of pills and alcohol and had been increasingly creasing. Lee Willing to talk to any of dozens of the writers and columnists who followed her deterioration with avid interest to the public she was still Maryland and the unassailable and glamorous movie star and the world's most lusted after woman in private. She was having a crisis. She was afraid trade of going crazy which is kind of the way she put it. She had this history of mental illness. She didn't seem to inherit some of the worst aspects of it. She wasn't schizophrenic like her mother and her uncle were but she definitely struggled with depression and anxiety in nineteen sixty sixty one sixty to a woman who turned thirty five was considered over the hill or or close to it so for the world's love goddess the most beautiful woman in the world to turn thirty five. Her press took a turn rather than saying. She's the hottest thing in pictures. She's the ultimate and feminity they started saying. How much longer could she go on. She's thirty five. She still looks good but she can't pull it off so much long. It terrified her because all the love that she received in her career all the money all the attention all luke film roles at Wofford. Her were based solely on her beauty when she felt that she might be losing it. It was almost unbearable to her. As Maryland's depression worsened she began relying on her sessions with psychiatrists. Dr Dr Ralph Greenspan a situation complicated by the fact that she was also sleeping with him. She was obviously astoundingly beautiful. She was also very we needed and she was very damaged. Person I can see very easily where Maryland had become very disillusioned with Hollywood with her career with everyone wanting something from her. She was someone who was signed to a studio contract at an early early age and came a huge star and was still vastly underpaid. Even though she was one of the hugest movie stars in all Hollywood she's I'm one who tried to be shrewd about her business dealings but changed always be the victim of the pawn of the men in her life life and I think that it was crippling to her. How darker thought to are and how unhappy her life was because she had to face the camera and be the the woman that the world desired became a tremendous pressure for her have feeling him? Dave there. She thinks off only only era claiming this was not Marilyn's first mental health crisis a year your earlier shortly after filming misfits and following her divorce from Arthur Miller she had even been committed to an institution when that movie was finished and opened it flopped and her marriage broke up she went into. I think one of the deepest darkest orcas depressions when her friends heard this they were alarmed they knew that she had a history of having suicidal thoughts and so they told her to her psychiatrist and the Psychiatrist Kyrgyz became alarmed and said Oh Maryland. I'm GonNa put you in the hospital for a nice long rest that Maryland said that's the ticket that's just what I need. I need to be in the hospital and we'd be pampered and taking care of not knowing that they were really bringing her to a mental institution on the floor for the dangerously insane turned into something that included electroshock it. It was much more profound in deep and scary than she thought it would be. She was committed to a mental institution straitjacketed the whole bit and she it was just completely like a prisoner they had like an animal and she wasn't insane and she knew that she could talk here only but they just wouldn't give her a chance to explain herself. Were they kept her drugged when sympathetic nurse smuggled her a piece of paper and Pencil and she wrote Joe Dimaggio on it and then the nurse Puerto or phone. Is You call Joe and said you. GotTa get me out of here. Please get me out of here. Marylin and Joe Dimaggio had been divorced for six years but when she needed him he dropped everything for her. It was he who roared down to wherever she is being housed and using his status strong loud man and as they celebrity in his own right demanded that she'd be released. He had no power to get her out of there really by Joe Dimaggio was there and he was blustering around and he said if I don't get get my wife out of here I'm GonNa take this hospital apart brick by brick and he got her out of there. He got out the next day. Actually Davey return hurt to him and the rest of her life she saw was a kind of Guardian in the spring of nineteen sixty two Maryland garland began shooting a new movie co starring Dean Martin Instead Cherise. Something's gotta give was a lightweight romantic comedy and was supposed to herald her return to box office success after the disappointment of the misfits but the problems were there from the start the last film she worked on her. Co Star was Dean Martin Mhm was of course best friends with Frank Sinatra so there's a whole incestuous circle with this group and I think she found yourself in the middle of that. She was always very insecure. Insecure her work but now because they were starting to say that she was at a tender age she was even more hesitant to face the cameras because there was so much pressure on look good take total. Sometimes you know the work is so you try to be true you so you feel sometimes. It's on the verge of kind of craziness but it didn't really craziness. It's really getting true part of itself. Oh goodness very hard. You know I mean it's not easy on the very first day of Production Maryland in came down with a sinus infection and could not make it on set it began a pattern that saw the troubled star take long absences from filming citing poor health and when she was is there her behavior was a radic she was showing up less and less on the film and the studio is getting more and more frustrated with her because she was causing send them a lot of money. I mean every time she didn't show up. Everybody's salary had to be paid in their losing another day. Maryland was unstable. Even the best of circumstances under the pressure of her falling and failing movie career with the understanding that some has got to give wasn't going well. She who's even more unstable than usual eventually on June eighth one week. After Maryland turned thirty six she was in Hollywood. Speak released from the project. They actually fired her right after her thirty sixth birthday to this represents a sad end to a sparkling career. Not everyone thinks so now. Here's celebrity biographer mark be go of course there's a lot of speculation to about that last movie. I was just watching recently of it's where she's in the swimming pool and in seems with Wally Cox and with Dean Martin and she seems not to be this lost person person that everyone is painting her as being circa nineteen sixty two. She seems someone who's very on top of her game. She was surrounded by a lot of people who was she wanted to have helped her career and Marilyn herself wasn't about to take her dismissal lying down in the the days that followed she gave defiant interviews to life cosmopolitan and vogue magazines and by the end of June twentieth century Fox not only relented and rehired hired her but did so on improved terms. Maryland wasn't beat yet. She was in a happiest moods the last weeks of her life life because she just signed a new contract with twentieth century. They were going to lease on domain. Something's gotta give she's got a more money like she. Ah before filming could recommence however Maryland was to undergo an ordeal so degrading that it can only be compared to the abuse she had received as a child in foster care and the worst thing was it came at the hands of those she had thought of as friends on the weekend of July twenty eighth the last weekend of Maryland's life Frank Sinatra invited her to his Lake Tahoe resort the CAL Neva Lodge present one way or another would be all the key players ars in the deadly game of power leverage and betrayal that had come to define Maryland's love life Frank Sinatra. He wanted to renovate the challenge of a lodge during the renovations. They may tunnels underneath the Casino for the reason why the tunnels were built love was because the FBI was watching that place constantly. You cannot have people that are undesirable frequent that casino or Frank Sinatra would lose his license so people used to walk in there in the sky ice and then they would go downstairs into the tunnel and this guy's off and they you can have meetings there mafia meetings of or whatever what was going on there Sinatra had told Maryland he wanted to discuss a movie project but his real intentions were very different. He was acting on behalf of Mafia boss. Sam Giancana and they plan to use Maryland's Orleans weekend at CAL Neva for altogether more sinister purposes. Here's Johnny Russo Godfather actor and former employees of mob boss Frank Costello who was was present at the cow Neva that weekend. He talks us through just what happened. I was in lake. Tahoe that weekend again to be the is in is Mr Castello when Sam Giancana and Sinatra was commanded. It's bring everybody there. She went up to the county and there was was a wild potty that went on that weekend a lot of these Chicago Ma people with with the they had her room setup they needed round Marla because we're gonNA use Mallon as deploy exploiting Sinatra's connection to the Kennedys through Peter Lawford Giancana had also arranged arrange for JFK bobby even father Joe Kennedy to come for the weekend with Maryland's room wired with hidden cameras they plan to secure the ultimate hold over the family patriarch who had done a deal with the mafia to secure the presidency in exchange for a promise to take back the mobs Cuban Casinos GonNa to try to set her Bobby Kennedy and John. They want to catch the two boys Mara. One more time and then threaten them with bat blackmail because nobody's going to vote for a Catholic president cheating on his wife with Malibu Monroe and the brother Bobby. They thought we'd photograph Mallard with John and Bobby but John didn't go something happened. Heating Come Joe Came Joe Oh and Bobby Cave so that's that whole meeting was about but they wanted to do with their way and blackmail him shown the pitches now now invade Cuba kill Cuba Maryland had become the victim of her desperate need for powerful powerful men as lovers Frank Sinatra Sam Giancana the Kennedys plus in all likelihood J. Edgar Hoover listening in too so what do Maryland do she. She did what she had done. As a lonely foster child as a wannabe model as a casting couch starlet she dug in and fought back row away crazy some got goal for this and she went bananas. She's going public with this. Bobby was with it but you could hear the next night that she was screaming. I'm Outta Outta here. I WanNa part of this Mattia. I'm going public screw. You Kennedy's the real horror was still to come however the mobsters may not have gotten the blackmail pictures they wanted but they did have a distraught emotionally vulnerable Marilyn Monroe at their disposal. It was the situation they exploited in the worst way. Imaginable Marilyn Monroe was afraid for a life situation where where it got a hand. Marilyn Monroe was taken advantage of she was physically taken advantage of by people she was drug bad a wild royal hoti off their Maryland was in a message he was drinking a lot and taking a lot of pills and she even overdose that night they recovered her in desperation Spiratou in Maryland turned to the one man who had always rescued her the only man who had ever loved her unconditionally next thing you know she calls Joe Dimaggio's in San Francisco and she has Joe Dimaggio coming together and he didn't this time not uneven. Tilton joke could save her photographers. Wife told me this and he's a a well known photographer. His wife told me that the pictures were Marilyn was down on her hands and knees and Sam Giancana was riding a horse a degrading position for Maryland to being Maryland Harland left the cal Neva Lodge humiliated and degraded by Sam Giancana and his mom buddies betrayed by Frank Sinatra abandoned by Joe Dimaggio and with of her relationship with Bobby Kennedy in shambles. The Mafia didn't get their photos but for Giancana. The job was as good as done anyway. Maryland had threatened Bobby Kennedy to his face she had finally had enough. She was going public. She flailed out sometimes eventually in ways that made in her in many ways the most dangerous woman in America. I think Marilyn Monroe was just at that point tired of being used and I think that John F. Kennedy Robert Kennedy may have said things to Marilyn Monroe things. They probably should not have told Marilyn Monroe I think at that point she just so so angry. She felt like she's being used that she told them. I'm going to go to the news tomorrow and tell them everything. Bobby Kennedy was nobody's fool around around with knowing her when she said I'm going to the press. I'm going to disclose you well. That's taking those pitches yeah I. I think there's thing human being case as I think is in myself. I also want again. All agape died. I mean Thad side and I think with people on but there is something pupil they want. They need talk to next time on the killing of Marilyn Monroe Marilyn Monroe. We all well no had tried to commit suicide a few times every single time. She wrote a letter. There was no letter there was no glass waterford even swallow anything. He claims when he answered Roman rose bedrooms. The area looked like it was staged was not the a normal suicide victim in Washington J. Edgar Hoover Director of the FBI told his chief aide Clyde Tolson and other agents that although he felt Maryland had been murdered he did not plan to launch an investigation. 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I-5 Series Game 6 Postgame Show
"I, all Henry Shulman air with a recap of game. Six of the interstate five world series, and not a fun one for the team of Northern California greats, the nor cows were three out from the first interstate five pile with Dennis Eckersley on the mound be hundred dollar, a bottle champagne on ice clubs in the home clubhouse at the coliseum had all the lockers covered with plastic for a celebration, and it was a celebration that didn't happen. Fred. Lynn's two run double off. Act tied the game three three in the night and southern, California wanted with a grand slam in the tent by Eddie Mathews off Dave Stewart good for seven to three victory, so the nor Kaos three two one series lead has gone the golden greats world. Series comes down to game seven oracle par a contest that they never thought they would say lefty Gomez certainly was the pitching star of the series after tossing six hundred innings of shutout relief into free, he blank southern, California for seven innings in game six, and got the nor cows through a even with bobby bonds hitting a homer. Homer for the first southern California run, so we bring in northern California manager Bruce, Jenkins and Bruce some of these pitching decisions of yours have have not worked out I mean, and this has been an offensive series, so it really has been tough I think in a lot of cases to pick these pitchers on. You didn't let lefty Gomez finish a jam, and you instead went for Eckersley. Who Blew the save? And then you brought? David Stewart in Dave Stewart in for redemption in the tenth inning after poor performances, a starter in game four and that turned disastrous. Let let's start with the decision to go to Eckersley at. Eight. Innings Lefty Gomez. Throwing one run ball what went into that decision well? I went against my basic nature there Henry. If somebody's pitching a Jim, the ratings and looks like he's in control I'm always once. I WANNA. Leave a man. I hate to see managers. Take out a guy who's throwing well because he's throwing a hundred pitches if you throw ninety nine by God, we're going to bring it back out there anyway. I like to see guys. Finish what they start, but here we are three outs away. Left going on short rest, and when you've got eckersley to close it out I I just you know that that's what I chose to do. I think either way I can live with it either I certainly can live with bringing Eckersley to close out the series. Okay, so that's not a decision. You lose sleep over right now. Not at all okay I mean. Mean Dennis Eckersley one of the great closers of all time and he had a two run lead. Even had you know a run to work with Abu Get to Stewart in in just a bit Let's go back a little bit earlier. This was a one nothing game in the seventh inning. A Ken Kennedy added RBI triple in the fourth against Jim Palmer. So. It was one nothing in the seventh when Joe Dimaggio came to the plate with a man on against Palmer and provided a swing that pushed the nor cows that much closer to the title. John Miller has the call so now jolt Joe Dimaggio to the plate for the man aboard here in the last of the seven, still only one to nothing nor cow, leading and Jim Palmer stood on the mound, having an outstanding night. Joe Basho one of the all time greats ten. Series! He played in and his team. The Yankees one nine of those ten, but he's kind of a quiet sherry so far. Palmer ready about. And he throws. A high drive the center field. That one is hit pretty well. Going way back there do Snyder. He's at the warning track. He's at the wall. Is. A homerun. Tell Dimaggio with a two run homer over the Centerfield Wall who had the coliseum over the four hundred foot sign, and it is three nothing. Nor Cow. Okay, now it's three now that you have a three nothing lead, it's. You know there's there's only. A couple minutes left here in this game and you know even with the even with the offensive nature of the series I'm imagining that with a three nothing lead. At lefty Gomez pitching the way. He's going Dennis Eckersley in your holster I mean. Did you start to think about that champagne at all? I was thinking more Tang. Tang in case we were gonNA. Go to game seven. No No, no cockiness there but to see Dimaggio. Come to life like that was really invigorating. It felt like it put up ten nothing. It felt so good. He hasn't had a great offensive series, but He was about to make a play that made me feel even better about it. And it just look really good at that point. Yeah, I it just I mean it three nothing lead with the kind of pitching. You have like we're talking about. just sounded just sounded kind of impenetrable impenetrable, so you have Dennis Eckersley on the mound three one lead. The problem is that. The one of the guys he had to face in the ending was the guy who has taken over the series. Offensively I mean. It was just the bad fortunate Eckersley had faces former as teammate Mark Maguire and Maguire came up there and he he get a double, and maybe was rattled a little bit He didn't usually walk is, but he walked Eddie Mathews to now. There's two on at southern California. Manager Houston Mitchell. What turned out to be a genius move. He had Fred Lynn. Bat for Robin Yount that moves surprise you a little bit. Well a little bit I mean Frank Robinson once told me that Robin. Yount in one, thousand, nine, hundred, two, which is a year we have. Had the greatest series ever seen by shortstop, and he wound up being an outfielder after that but Fred Lynn in his early days with the red sox was like a revelation. You know tremendous left hand hitter made spectacular catches ran into walls, Fan favourite. So, what are you going, do we? You know if you're playing the righty lefty thing? He's left knee coming up against act so a little bit, but it, but it was part of the deal is at Houston like like I I was trying to do is trying to get guys in the game and boy he he made A. Gutsy move there. It kinda paid off. So what is land do? He hits a two run double. The ties the game three all now I. Know You don't believe in momentum bruce, but following the Lynn double. There was a play that seemed to shift tied back to northern California's favor. Some McGraw is on the mound. Tony. gwynn is at the plate and he hits. What looks to be go ahead single, but Joe Dimaggio had other ideas southern. California staying alive two runs in here in the ninth inning, three three time tug McGraw from the bullpen to face Tony Gwynn now with Lynn, the possible. Go ahead run at second base. And? Here's McGraw the left-hander to the Left. Handed batting, Gwen. Grin hits a line drive up. The Middle Base headed a Centerfield Lynch coming around third. He's going to be way home tonight. Show. He's got a great aunt. Comes up throwing. A perfect one hops throw to the plate. It's going to be close and he is. The Great Tag after the grades. Role Ernie Long Bond. Is used, and we put up a road block, blocking off men from the place, and that the game tied Joe Dimaggio who've had quite a game. He nor town from falling behind here in the night. Well, that's not a bad center fielder. You have their bruce. Dimaggio charged that ball came up throwing. Threw a perfect strike to home to nail him and oh. Man, you talk about momentum, wh when I say I don't believe in it I believe in like the next day. You don't have any momentum from the day before, but it during a game i. absolutely believe in it. And when Dimaggio threw him out like that, I just felt like okay, you know bobby bonds was retired. Retired to end that inning, we got out of it. We go to extras, and I'm just thinking Dimaggio between the Homerun and that great and I still like we're we're. We're going here. And I was just thinking to imagine if you're a fan in in in the Coliseum, and this is the first chance you've had to see Joe Dimaggio play to see him do what he did so well. Not only at the plate, but in the field I think that that would be a moment. I would I would never ever forget just good. Yeah, and you know when he did that. Houston Mitchell's like how how great is this? It went against him. I said that several times when things went well for him. You'll see idea beast, guys you're. You're managing these guys and seeing what they're doing and so many great scenarios. Presented themselves, and it got to be more about just a pure enjoyment of the game then by God. I'm GonNa crush you hear Nortel the way I mean. That was part of it, but just the the players involved in able to manage him kind of. Everything emotionally. Yeah, and you know that play that. Dimaggio made throwing out. Redland might have had a small effect on what happened in the tenth inning, but eventually worked out for the so cows anyway what happened. Was that You know the Clicquot or the? I don't know the Arco Brand. Champagne had long been removed from the home dugout out that it was now that it was three three and McGraw's Dylan the game, and the southern California's at the top of the load the bases off McGraw. Now you made a decision and to bring in Dave Stewart to face Maguire and I mean that right there. You would think might have. Created the hit that puts this game in so cal favor now, mcgwire hit a fly ball to center Jackie Robinson. As fast as he was didn't test Maggio's arm and I guess with nobody out. There was no real reason to, but that really is kind of a respect for Dimaggio's Armand in what we saw the evening before, right? Absolutely once again you know Dimaggio's rising to the occasion and you know with Stuart there. You know we're in Oakland. Maguire's coming off He's had the better of Stewart and you know. I talked Dave Are you ready to pitch released and He especially wanted this moment and by God. I went with him there when he got Maguire on the fly ball I'm thinking. You know, thank you. However the double a double plane. You're out of it and you have the momentum now in, but that's not what happened Eddie Mathews step to the plate. That baby faced assassin. From the braves, and here's John Miller, letting you know what happened such tension, such drama tenth inning here at the Coliseum in game six, three, two three, the score days Stewart brought in from the bullpen in such a tight spot after tug, McGraw walked the bases loaded with one. He did get maguire on a shallow fly ball to Santa, but now here's Eddie Mathews. Mathews three-man men on two men out Matthews twelve time star. Five hundred twelve home runs one of the greatest slugging third baseman in major league history, and here is stu to Eddie Mathews and there's a swing on long drive deep in the center field. Way Back Goes Dimaggio. He's gliding back to the warning track and get out. Arrive Brag, grandma, it's grand. Salami time. Eddie bathrooms with a Grand Slam the tenth and southern. California has as seven to three lead. So that's it a grand slam by Eddie Mathews. A Four four-run victory for southern California, and now the series is all tied up at three games apiece and I have to think now that even though the game is at home. It's going to be at Oracle Park. You have to think that maybe. Maybe the the momentum that you don't believe in actually on the southern California side on the other hand. You're putting the series in the hands of Tom Seaver, and as we as we know, he had a three hit complete game in in game. Two and he's GonNa. Face Don Drysdale who was the game, went loser and didn't have a great game on. You feel pretty good about that matter. Now I feel really good about it Tom seaver pitching for me. You know we the are. Bats did not go quiet in in game six. The maggio came to life The mood in the clubhouses is good. It's upbeat. It was a tough tough hang. Right off the Bat, it was pretty crushing, but a few minutes went by. Guys are going. We're looking good here. Let's look around this clubhouse. We're GONNA take it tomorrow at Oracle. And Save the embarrassment of blowing a three one way all right well. One game left in the Golden Greats series. Here I mean you couldn't have asked for more from a competitive standpoint and we'll talk to you after game seven, Bruce. You Bet mccord to Henry. Thank you for listening. 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Chapter Four: A Global Pin-Up
"She was friends with anybody. She didn't realize who she was. Never Abbott did Marilyn Monroe really had no confidence in herself psychologically just as a personality she really had no confidence game abused child. She really felt very vulnerable and she was always looking for protection. That could easily be alone doesn't bother me <music> some people. I know they want to be long. I don't mind it. I think this thing and human being gave F. I think is is a myself definitely wanted you longer again. The guy have all agape insight hello and welcome to part four of the killing of Marilyn Monroe. I'm your host Jackie Moran in this episode episode. We're going to see how after dragging herself out of an abusive childhood and suffering the infamous Hollywood casting couch. Maryland finally made it big on a level. Nobody nobody even she could have predicted and we'll also discover how her extraordinary onscreen sex appeal crossed over into increasingly scandalous private life. I will be very jealous very jealous. I think you just Delic Maryland had broken through in nineteen eighteen fifty thanks to two movies all about eve and the asphalt jungle in which she had small but memorable parts the buzz she created from her performances in in them led to her being cast in no fewer than ten movies over the following two years and kept her profile. High Maryland was relentless in Haram Bishen then she took acting lessons with all the great teachers in Hollywood and she was formed friendships with the piglets agents and the best interview that anyone had ever given should tell us that were quite extraordinary and sometimes unusual in one thousand nine hundred fifty to daily variety columnist Flora Bell Muir name Maryland the it girl of the year and former silent movie legend turn Gossip Queen Hedda Hopper described described her as the cheesecake queen-turned box office smash in February of that year she was also named the best young box office personality by the Farm Press Association in Hollywood and Maryland's reputation as the sexiest up and coming actress in Hollywood wasn't exactly harmed by the emergence of the nude photos she had post for as a penniless model back in one thousand nine hundred forty nine as Greg Schreiner president of the Marilyn Monroe Fan Club explains Maryland was also smart enough to turn what could have been a career ending scandal into another facet of growing legend. She did a new calendar for Tom. Kelly which incredibly famous eventually Louis and when they ask her what she was wearing during that session she said Chanel number five and of course they said no no. What did you have on the radio to me. I don't know there's something wonderfully clever and naive about all of that which I think shows that side of Maryland very much. Marilyn made further headlines that year when she began a high profile romance with New York Yankees Legend and America's most famous sport star Joe Dimaggio the Dimaggio biographer Jerem Sharon author of Joe Dimaggio the long vigil details how the ball player and the showgirl came to meet Nineteen fifty-two who was it starlet cheat appeared and all about eve but suddenly these new pictures should take an a few years before surface and not only that she declared herself often suddenly her mother arrives at an insane asylum and says that Maryland take care of her Sydney's Cold Key West Coast Columned Airy Station of Schwab Obstructs Unstuck Boulevard said hey we got to do something so what they did to date for her to go out with Joe Dimaggio he the proletarian prints of America. It's nine hundred fifty two just tired and fifty one the whole world loved him at that point Maryland thought choose splashy sports figure you know with the slicked hair and a flashy sports jacket and when he showed up at dinner she found that he was quiet and sensitive and that would always be current so the moment she went out with Jodi marriage. Oh they were the royal royal couple of America and she was in all the newspapers and her career was they really hit it off. I think that one of the things things that really attracted to aside from the fact that she was very physically attracted to him and he was physically attracted are which always helps but also that father father thing. He was very protective of her as we shall see. Joe Dimaggio was to be the first of several significant men in Maryland's life and death yeah but he was not to be the most significant here's Danforth Prince celebrity publisher and Monroe expert the module was not part of the Hollywood community energy. He was an athlete. He was a sports star. He didn't go for any of the FROU FROU and silly Hollywood stupidity that seemed to make the Hollywood industry run that was considered chic and fun and interesting desirable. She was devoted to her way and never used her never use her fame. Never used the talent what interested in any loved desperately the end of the Joe probably would have been rather conservative. Italian husband probably would've demanded that she take fewer pills. They might have done her good but he might have killed that magical spirit of charisma with her profile rising and public interest in her next move high in one thousand nine hundred fifty three. Marilyn starred in three movies that remain classics today and that finally lifted her above all the other pretty blonde wannabees in Hollywood. My name is Charles. Castillo an entertainment journalist. I think the first role role that really solidified that she was a legend and a true star was a movie called Niagara but she was playing fem tall and seductress and she won't leave her husband she he's having fair so she wanted to kill him but the reason that I think more so than the plot that solidified her star status as it was in color and everything about Maryland that we remember today was on display in that movie the creamy white skin the Ruby Red Glossy lips the tussled blonde hair the beauty mark the cleavage edge all in breathtaking color people were dumbfounded by her. They had never seen anything like her before because she was just so cornel so sexual people had never seen anything like it. Hot on the heels of Niagara Came Gentlemen Prefer Blondes released just six months after Niagara era. It's so Maryland turn in a show stopping performance opposite Jane Russell many moments from the movie including Marilyn's dazzling performance of diamonds are a girl's best spread remain iconic today but squeak or pay shape these rocks shape eh Spanish tiffany's eighty. It was amazing. It was kind of like Vivian Lee with gone with the wind or Marlon Brando Streetcar named desire like you can't imagine anyone else playing those roles. I think that it was a time in in Marilyn Monroe's history where the perfect actress for the perfect role and the perfect year just came together serendipitous Lii in a rare recently unearth interview Maryland's some like it hot co star Jack Lemmon describe just what she brought to the screen I why is she had a very good sense of of comedy. There's no question she also created this character herself of and the voice all of that that was was her she was not at them. I think what she knows. It was maybe US look at the center of our talents in heartache or in a good indicator. I think Marilyn King closely listen using one hundred percent on the takes it reprinted. She had a town of the powerful glad she seemed a little. She could dance a little patchy bristle little she could whatever ah but she could lose what she would have more fully than everybody. I've ever worked with for her advantage when people ask me. I don't know anything thing about Marilyn Monroe movies. What should I say. I always say this one. I gentlemen prefer blondes because everything about her that made her star is there. It's a dumb blonde role but she's kind of like underneath it all. She's got some savvy and brains but she's very delicious. She's at the peak of her beauty. She sings she dances. She's got in the perfect cohort. She's got Jane Russell. WHO's the opposite of her dark and sultry and Marilyn's light and funny. It's very fresh. It's very delicious and it's it's just as entertaining today as it was. In nineteen fifty to nineteen fifty three by the third of Maryland's trio of Nineteen fifty-three smashes how to marry a millionaire in which she received top billing over Betty grable alarm a call of all people the formerly stuttering foster girl had become the most famous woman in the world. She always wanted to be famous but she was experiencing the kind of fame that even she couldn't have expected. I mean I don't think anyone at this point in time had ever been as famous as Marilyn Monroe was really the most famous woman in the world not only Andy moral drawing her. She's Great Wait Comic Actor Twentieth Century. She's the female counterpart to Marlon Brando. She was just everywhere you know and she became came. Catchphrase like if a woman walking down the street and she was haughty or something the guys would yell out. Who Do you think you are Marilyn Monroe. I mean that's how famous she was. She it was the standard to be judged by almost a magic kind of charisma that she had nobody can figure it out their stories about how she'd walked on his avenue feeling depressed looking being dumpy and looking allow makeup she would say. Do you want me to become the legend that is Maryland Marilyn. Let's see if you can do it and she pulled off her scarf and she'd put on some smear lipstick and she trust her chest and she razzle-dazzle her way. In suddenly the low with this magic charisma suddenly people would notice that's Maryland uncrowded for him and if she was the most famous woman in the world she was also the most desired here's Danforth Prince again his arm candy with Marilyn. Monroe's one of the highest status symbols man could possibly have Maryland was thrilling. She he was charismatic. People would meet her once when she was being extroverted on the glamorous beautiful platinum blonde that she was and never ever forget it. She was fabulous status symbol to be seen a great conversation piece. Perhaps one of the most unique things about Marilyn sexuality was how up front she was about she may have been dating Joe Dimaggio at the time but the rumors of her other love affairs kept gossip columnists working overtime just about every handsome famous eligible men in Hollywood and several who were not eligible were shall we say romantically linked with the star and Marilyn it seems not only did nothing in to quell the gossip but seem to actually thrive on it celebrity biographer Mark Bego. She was Marilyn Monroe. She knew she has a certain power our cachet in Hollywood and do what she wanted. She was her own woman and I think that that's one of the things that makes appealing to you. Women as well as a character is that she was basically in control of her own destiny. She slept with who she wanted to. She had affairs with she wanted to. She was really kind of ahead of her time. This kind of behavior would have been with scandalous back then but it would have been even more scandalous in early Hollywood but she's really carried. He's that sex symbol roll into her personal life and she knew she goes through a certain power. Some believe however that Marilyn's intense sexuality had its roots. It's in a far darker place. Her abused Childhood Bill Burns is an author and Hollywood historian. She was turned into a sexual creature before she was a teenager. That meant psychologically that the only response she had any stimulation from men was sexual. Actual couldn't be friendly could be business. That was her response. She was trained that way when she was a child who was molested. Why was she it that way. Because before she even reached puberty she was being sexually abused. That was her only response and that was the response she had for the restaurants. If we look at Maryland's relationship with men again we have to go back to the studio system in the nineteen in forty nine hundred fifty where you had to sleep with a producer. You wanted to get a role so women were constantly taken advantage of constantly hunt abused so her relationship with men was based on what these things were. I mean she was kind of toy curve of placing among the men who fell into her orbit was British actor Peter Lawford who in Nineteen Fifty Four married Patricia Kennedy the sister of ambitious Senator John F. Kennedy and through Lawford. She met his RATPAC Buddy Frank Sinatra. It's nice to be seen with the rat pack. It's nice to be their friend. You get included in better parties. They all knew one another. They were all striving for booking engagements because Maryland didn't have a father figure growing up. She tended to like men who were older than she was who she could look up to. Maryland was involved with Sinatra for many years and he gave her dog walk with she called after Mafias Club. Marilyn had enjoyed relationships with powerful and influential men before and perhaps perhaps uniquely call the shots with them but Sinatra was to introduce her to a whole new world and a whole new class of powerful and influential men who would prove far or harder to control Frank Sinatra had a very very complicated hugely talented man but always accusations of being associated associated with the mob cal Neva Lodge the Las Vegas singing engagements a murky careers early that casinos were we're always accused of being associated with the mob. Sinatra definitely had mob contacts. That's been very well documented and that's easy to prove and then he was involved with the Kennedy's as well. I remember that he was going to have John Kennedy. Come onto his place in Palm Springs so this whole association with these people of Peter Lawford of course being done f Kennedy's brother-in-law and and being a movie actor who was under contract the movie studios all throughout from the late forties fifties and sixties and so on she was part of this whole mix <music> as the decade progressed so did Maryland's run of box office hits the seven year itch in Nineteen fifty-five gave us one of cinema's most famous scenes as Maryland's white dress was blown upwards by a passing train the Prince and the showgirl in nineteen fifty fifty seven saw her give a critically acclaimed performance opposite Sir Laurence Olivier and nineteen fifty nine some like it hot was later voted the funniest movie in American in Cinema History. There are people who claim that Marilyn was just a dumb blonde to use that phrase that she just had had her sexy image to rely on and there are others who argue that she was absolutely brilliant in knowing how to market mark this image that it really was just facade for the person who lived inside herself you Chris Welch. Well what you wear Pajama top to bottom of the Jones or the night town. Look kind of so now number two truth and yet I wanNA see <music> a true among the light however there was shade and the pressure to be Marilyn. Caroline Munro could sometimes feel overpowering. Here's first husband James Daugherty on the side of Maryland. The public didn't say that she was a good gal. She knew how to be tough. She didn't have that stuff but our Jeanne was heard. Often always for how she feared him to go out of the House for a while. She was always frayed. She timid person to a real sweet. Person should never been in that gets. I should've been fireworks. Somebody could be your husband. Take care of fleet to everybody his she never it's perhaps inevitably. Maryland sought comfort end escape wherever she she could here's Hollywood historian and biographer mark be go. She's someone who did you know have fears insecurities like we all do but she she was so in the spotlight that she wanted to be the best she could be at all times she kind of had that Judy Garland Syndrome where they would would judy. You're getting a little sad. We'll give you died. Tells Okay you're too high. You can't sleep will put you down or you know in that ruins. Judy Garland's life and I think that there was the potential for a ruining Maryland's lies and she seems to thinks that she had control over what she was taking doctors would would give her you pick me ups and also to sleeps and she was on that cycle and it can be a deadly cycle and it still is today. Sometimes for movie stars Alvis Presley had this problem too is that while I'm not a drug addict. He's a prescription drugs. I don't have a drug problem doctor gave his Jimmy. Well drugs are drugs. Even alcohol's a drug if you use it that way it was something that relaxed her seems to send her but you start taking him with champagne so poor Marilyn in monroe. She's addicted to methamphetamine. She's also an alcoholic. She's also heavily on barbiturates which is a deadly combination. When you're teaching metamphetamines the nineteen fifties belong to Marilyn Monroe in a manner and on a scale almost unprecedented in Hollywood history but as she achieved uncharted uncharted levels of worldwide fame in her private life things were beginning to unravel by one thousand nine hundred sixty Marilyn less than two years left to live and had developed serious addictions to alcohol and prescription drugs the childhood traumas that she had fought so hard to escape from where resurfacing and her chaotic love life was about to to put her at the center of a deadly power struggle between forces she had no hope of controlling entity was very sexually active active so she was having an affair with him with Frank Sinatra with people in the rat pack and me became a fixture in Hollywood an-and in American politics. She is an enduring part of the American legend story that only America and maybe Hollywood could have reduced. What was the American Arkansas's identity be without her. There are still bars in Pago PAGO. You go someplace really obscure in the world and has a poster of Marilyn Monroe or some bars in retrospect. Her fate has a terrible tragic inevitability about it but as Mark Bego speculates. It could have all been so different. It's really interesting to speculate what would happen to a lot of our idols. What would Maryland be like these days if she was still alive would you be as big big as we view her which she icon as review her which she be making appearance is on the tonight show which she show. Oh up on game shows which should be someone who lost her beauty and became a has been but you look at someone like Jane Russell who was Maryland Coast are gentlemen prefer blondes and Jane a long life she would show up on television Turner Classic Movies Different shows and she was still a beautiful woman but definitely older. It was an older version of Jane Russell Maryland fit into that category. <hes> Mamie van Doren another bombshell L. from fifty. She's around. She shows up every once in a while. She still looks pretty. She's still somewhat a legend not as big as Maryland of course would Maryland d like fat hat or would she developed a another character of for herself which she either wise cracking older woman. I guess we'll never know exactly what she could have become as she survived in the next episode of the killing of Marilyn Monroe all the men that she found the tractive because they were powerful. We're also the enemies of a lot of dark forces on the periphery of that for example. She got involved with the Kennedy's who hated the Kennedys in Kinda hated the Kennedys so by getting to Maryland it was an open door to anyone who wanted to punish the Kennedys or make they just use like a rag doll. I mean bars and clubs and plays with but you could see you mean she'd be totally out of it and they'd walk away for wild come back then somebody else who grabbed him and walk away and come back like St Okay Oh it was terrible but I was in a position saying to these guys young a young kid. The killing of Marilyn Monroe is hosted by me. Jackie Moran executive produced used by Dylan Howard and is a production of broad and water studios and endeavor audio executive producers also include. Tom freestone James Robertson and anti tillet the series is produced by carry budge and written by Dominic Hutton reporting by Doug Montero. The series is mixed and engineered by Sean crabby and Sam Ada scoring by Benz town. There is so much more to this story and you don't want to miss anything. I can assure you make sure you subscribe to the killing of Marilyn Monroe wherever you get podcasts.
MARILYN MONROE: Conspiracy to Commit Murder
"I nineteen Sixty-two Marilyn Monroe which signed the biggest contract of her career or two hundred fifty thousand dollars to complete the film. Something's got to give sadly four days later. The actress would be found dead. On August, the fifth nineteen sixty two just shortly after midnight the life responding of Marilyn was discovered by a housekeeper. She was found nude lying face down with one hand clutching a phone and pills, scattered across the bedroom. Floor. It was less than three months after her favorite. Social performance of happy birthday at president John F Kennedy's forty fifth birthday may nineteen sixty two. An autopsy would later reveal fatal amount of sedatives in Maryland system. And her death was ruled probable suicide, however over the years, many have speculated the deadly cocktails possibly administered by someone else, and she may have been murdered. Join us for a CPA natural journey as we told the tragic life and death of Marilyn Monroe. We examined the mystical facts explore the conspiracy theories and investigate the tragic demise of one of Hollywood's most glamorous stars. This is death, by misadventure. On june. First nineteen twenty six Norma Jeane Mortenson was born to a single mom named. Gladys Baker who worked as a film cutter in the movie industry. Life had not been particularly kind to Gladys. She had had two other children Bernice and hermit by her first marriage to Jack Baker, but he had taken the children away from her and moved to Kentucky prior to marriage to Edward Mortenson. Supposedly Baker had left note for Gladys that red. I've taken the children, and you will never see them. Again. The absence of her first who children caused Gladys great pain along with the failure of her second marriage to Edward and her inability to care for Norma, Jean only added to her heart ache in stress. Sadly Gladys was mentally and financially unprepared to be a single parent and soon after her daughter's birth. She was placed with foster parents, Albert and Ida Bolander in Hawthorne, California, growing up Norma Jean's childhood was far from idyllic and our family had a history of mental instability. Both of her grandparents Otis and Delilah. Monroe finished out their lives in mental institutions and our Marian suffered from paranoid. Schizophrenia. Norma Jean's foster parents tried to provide a stable home, but were extremely religious. She had to promise never to drink or swear and attended church several times a week the young girl who dreamed a future stardom would quickly. Learn she had to hide it from the Bolander 's if she wanted to sing dance or act out her Hollywood dreams each Saturday. Gladys would take the trolley to Hawthorne to visit Norma Jean and she would call her the lady with red hair rather than her mother later. Her grandmother would make sure she was baptized as Norma Jeane Baker her mother chose the last name Baker because it was Gladys first husband's surname. By nineteen thirty three her mother. Gladys was able to save enough money to buy a little house and took Norma Jean home when she was just seven they lived in a white bungalow close to Hollywood bowl and the little girl's life finally appeared to be happy. Sadly, only two years later. Gladys would suffer a nervous breakdown and be diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, which at the time was a common misdiagnosis for manic, depression, and she was sent to live in a state mental hospital. Norma Jean was then taken in by Gladys best friend, grace Goddard who after a series of foster homes placed her into the care of Los Angeles. Orphans home in nineteen thirty five Norma Jean was traumatized by experience and felt like no one seemed to want her and developed a stutter due to the emotional upheaval abuse, gray, Scott, eventually took Norma Jean back to live with her and nineteen thirty seven. Although this stay did not last long as Grace's husband was accused of molesting her afterwards. She went to live with Grace's and Anna, but due to her advanced age she could not care properly for the young girl either. Although duhr. During this turbulent time. Several people showed interest in adopting Norma Jean but her mother. Gladys refused to sign the papers Norma Jean one last time would return to live with the Goddard's they had planned to relocate and according to the new law. The couple could not take with them at the age of sixteen Norma Jean only had two choices return to the orphanage or get married. June of nineteen forty two Norma Jean would marry her next door neighbor Jimmy Doherty just eighteen days after she celebrated. Her sixteenth birthday. Her new husband would later state in an interview they decided to get married to prevent her from going back to foster home. But they were also in love Jimmy and Norma Jean would settle into a four room house and appeared to be very happy. On sunny afternoons. It would often drive down to Santa Monica beach and dine cold hot dogs and potato salad together. The first two years of the couple's marriage were blissful and Jimmy would later state in an interview he felt like the luckiest man in the world. But that world all changed in nineteen forty three when Jimmy enlisted in the merchant marines and was shipped off to the Pacific where he would be stationed for the next two years Norma Jean moved in with his parents and would dutifully write her husband letters several times a week. But soon she became bored without him Maryland needed to support herself and got a job working in a munitions factory in Burbank Q spotted by photographer David Kahn over who saw her potential, and he featured her in a high profile article he was doing about women working for the war effort. It was a stepping stone for Norma Jean who would soon begin appearing as a pinup girl for popular magazines by early nineteen forty six she had big dreams and was determined to become a movie star. Norma Jean began taking acting lessons and soon caught the attention of Twentieth Century, Fox. She wanted to sign a contract with a studio. But they said she couldn't be married. So well Jimmy was still stationed overseas in nineteen forty six. She filed for divorce he quickly returned home and tried to talk her out of the split, but he wouldn't budge and they went their separate ways. It would be a pivotal year for Norma Jean. She divorced. Her young husband and changed her name. So the more glamorous Marilyn Monroe the next step. Enter transformation was to dire hair, platinum blond and the sexy. Bombshell was born. Maryland took drama listens. At the actors lab and was determined to become a serious actress in nineteen fifty she landed part in John Houston's asphalt jungle, then a role in all About Eve, however, many of her acting roles came at a steep emotional price, and she tried to help other female performers make it in Hollywood in the nineteen fifties American jazz singer Ella. Fitzgerald was barred from performing at Los Angeles nightclubs because Sigara Gatien laws were still enforce Maryland went out of way to land Ella gig. She convince management to let L at play by promising to sit in the front row for a week during Maryland's continued rise to stardom she became the protege of Johnny Hyde who was the vice president of the William Morris agency. He's represented Maryland. And they soon became involved in a passionate love affair. Hyde even proposing marriage he paid for plastic surgery to fix her nose joh- and arranged for a bit part in the Marx brothers film. Love. Happy in nineteen fifty by nineteen Fifty-three Monroe was one of the most marketable Hollywood stars. She had leading roles in the film, Niagara which focused on her sex appeal and the comedies gentlemen, prefer blondes and how to marry a millionaire which is stabbed her star image as a dumb blonde that same year. Hugh, Hefner launch playboy magazine and decided to use color nude of Marilyn Monroe and called her sweetheart of the month, the young orphan girl was now an iconic figure of Hollywood glamour, and fashion, but soon she would find the trappings of fame difficult to deal with. maryland. Now at the height of her fame was ready to settle down and was tired of being treated as a sex object like other young Hollywood starlets. She was the victim of the casting couch and told friends of how she had been held down once at a party and was sexually attacked Orson. Welles recalled one party where Maryland was surrounded by men and one reached out and tore off her top revealing her breasts Maryland, well, said laughed with the others at this. Indignity. Laughter hitter. Fury in early nineteen fifty two Maryland would meet what she thought was her night and shining armor Joe DiMaggio. She was only twenty five and he was thirty seven Damasio recently. Retired from baseball had expressed a desire to meet the beautiful starlet by February. The romance was in full bloom. The couple had an immed-. Attraction Maryland born under the zodiac sign of and was playful and flirty, but incredibly smart, she told friends, she was surprised how crazy she was about. Joe? She had expected a flashy New York sports type. And instead she found damange Osama terrace an intriguing man who didn't make a passenger right away. He treated her with respect and she loved it on January fourteenth nineteen fifty five Joe in Maryland were married in whirlwind ceremony the wedding captured the headlines worldwide. However, the honeymoon period would be short lived Joe was an extremely jealous type of guy and resented Maryland sex symbol status. He wanted to housewife not a Hollywood starlet and the marriage was in trouble from the beginning. He immediately laid down some ground rules for his wife damange who had to approve of all our future films. Maryland was never to be seen semi dressed. And he wanted her to break out of her dumb blonde typecasting appoint she agreed with but she wasn't to outshine him either. And when Maryland did he would sleep in another bedroom and go days without speaking to her. On may twenty ninth. Nineteen fifty five Maryland began filming there's no business like show business throughout the summer. She was ill with bronchitis. In Nimia for the first time, she began showing serious side effects of the mini sleeping pills. She had been taking for the last few years. She was often groggy lethargic and crying on the set. Her marriage to Joe soon took a violent turn and she began to feel suffocated in a relationship in Maryland's memoir. She wrote that she and Joe had known it wouldn't be an easy marriage. But that she had no idea of the abuse to come. To put a motion distance between her and show. Maryland began an affair with your voice coach Schafer and winter husband found out he called Shaffer and told him to come over. But Maryland told her lover to stay away because she feared Joe would have killed him. Just nine months after they married. Marilyn could take it. No more in October nineteen fifty four she filed for divorce from Joe DiMaggio, citing only mental cruelty. However, like most karmic relationships, even after the divorce, Maryland continued to see Joe, but on her terms aside from her vocal coach, she was also dating Marlon Brando and had begun a toward affair with the married playwright or Miller, Maryland had met Arthur previously on the set of the nineteen fifty one movie as young as you feel at the time Maryland was heartbroken over the recent death of her agent and former lover Johnny hide the two had an instant connection. Arthur charming libra complimented Marilyn's desire to be seen as a serious actress, she wrote about their encounter in her diary, meta man tonight. It was bam. It was like running into a tree, you know, like a cool drink when you've had a fever. However, the two would not consummate their relationship until after a divorce from Joe DiMaggio in nineteen fifty five in nineteen fifty-six. Arthur Miller would establish residents in Reno Nevada long enough to be granted divorce from his wife, not long after in a no frill, civil ceremony Marilyn and Arthur got hitched the press called the new married couple that our glass and the head and one magazine dub their union. The most unlikely marriage since the Alan the pussycat what most people fail to see is that Arthur saw Maryland's artistic potential and noticed a broken nece about her that most men found convenient to ignore in the HBO. Oh documentary on his life, an elderly author mirror recall, something he said to Maryland, many years before their marriage. He said, you're the saddest girl I've ever met. A smile touched her lips as she discovered the compliment he had intended. You're the only one who's ever said that to me she told him the one man who saw into her, heart and soul. After the married, Maryland converted to Judaism to express her loyalty and get close to both arthritis parents. She once told close friends, Susan Strasberg, I can identify with the Jews. Everybody's always out to get them. No matter what they do. Just like me. Away from the prying eyes of Hollywood Maryland settled on as a housewife with Arthur and she loved it. She began cooking keeping house and giving her new husband more attention and affection than he had been used to in his previous marriage. His children age twelve nine adored, Maryland, and she got along well with his parents. Sadly, the couple would endure several hardships over the next five years which included Arthur Miller's investigation for communist sympathies and Maryland crippling depression, miscarriages and drug use. However, the strain of fame and fortune caught up with a couple when Arthur Miller began working on writing the screenplay for the misfits in nineteen sixty starring Maryland. It was during the filming that the couple's relationship took a downward spiral. An Arthur would later state that the filming was one of the lowest points in his life, Maryland on the other hand was devastated to helplessly watches. Her husband fall in love with photographer Ingham Morris shortly after the film, wrapped Maryland and Arthur announced their divorce on November eleventh nineteen sixty. A few months later Maryland emotionally exhausted by the end of her marriage was committed by her psychoanalyst, Dr. Marion Chris to the Payne Whitney psychiatric clinic in New York, Maryland thought, she was going in for a rest cure. Instead she was escort at a padded cell. The floor days. She spent in the psych ward proved to be among the most distressing of her life. She immediately reached out to refunds for help. And show demain show who never stopped loving Maryland was the only one to answer her call Joe came as soon as she phoned and demanded to see Marilyn the head nurse told him only her doctor could do anything but show was insistent, and he was quoted as saying give you five minutes to get her out here, or I'll tear this fucking place apart brick by brick. Maryland was promptly released to his care. He then took her to Columbia Presbyterian hospital where she introduced him as my hero. She would later be released and returned home to Los Angeles under Joe's watchful eye. In nineteen sixty one Maryland would purchase a home in the posh section of Brentwood, Los Angeles at the urging of her psycho analyst, Dr green Greenspan she hired unique Murray as a housekeeper Murray calling yourself a nurse who had neither the training or credentials. Many friends suspected that she was a spy for Dr green San who continued to have more and more control over Maryland's life seeing her almost daily when she was in Los Angeles. It was now one year later after the end of marriage to Arthur Miller and Marilyn had become restless, although Joe DiMaggio was desperate to win. Her back. Maryland, wasn't ready to remarry again and had become close friends with actor Peter Lawford and his wife, the president sister, Pat, Kennedy Lawford, the couple's Mediterranean style mansion built in originally owned by the MGM co-founder was a renowned party house often hosting sex parties were Jack. Jack Kennedy would rendezvous with various actresses she met both Kennedy brothers through the law firts and the president arranged a weakened with her in Palm Springs in March nineteen sixty two Peter Lawford escort in Maryland disguised in a black wig and dowdy close to being Crosby's guest home where the president was staying around the same time. She had also began an affair with the president's brother. Bobby soon this love triangle would prove to be a deadly encounter for the actress. actor Warren Beatty would be one of the last few people to see Marilyn live. He met her for the first time at Peter Lawford house in Santa Monica at party the night before she died, the young actor had been invited over for night of tacos and poker. Marilyn just happened to be there later to new friends would take stroll on the beach and bady would later remark in an interview how breathtakingly beautiful she was little ditty know that in less than forty eight hours Maryland would be found dead. on the following evening of August, fourth Marilyn received a call from her former stepson Joe DiMaggio junior. He phoned her around eight thirty pm to tell her that he had broken off his engagement to the daughter of a wealthy San Diego contractor, and they chatted. He would later tell the LA times in an interview that she didn't sound sad or upset but normal like Marilyn. However, just after midnight on August fifth nineteen sixty to her housekeeper notice Marilyn's bedroom light on she called out to the actress but received no answer tried the bedroom door, but it was locked alarmed. She immediately called Maryland psychiatrist. Dr Ralph green son who arrived after midnight. But the exact time he was submitted would later be called into question. The doctor stated he broke the window and climbed inside to find her lifeless body with one hand clutching a phone and pill, scattered across the bedroom. Floor Maryland was dead. Oddly, the doctor Dan, call the police until four twenty five AM he claimed they needed permission from the publicity department of twenty Century Fox, which was producing one rose current film before involving the law. The evidence. The police found raised even more questions for one no water glass was initially found in a room which Mayerling would have needed to swallow the large amount of pills necessary to overdose. Also there was no pill residue in her stomach. And there was a strong suspicion. She might have been injected with the deadly cocktail, even though the corner would later claim she died of an apparent suicide. What's stranger was the lack of testing on Maryland body? The coroner reportedly took samples from her stomach and small intestines and ask the toxicologist to perform tests on them that would have determine exactly how the drugs entered her system. But the tests were never done and later destroyed who are the police trying to protect and why? deeper look at Maryland's personal life. I find a sad, but sweet soul. Born with the life path number seven. It's the number vibration for spiritual testing, and it can cause a person the greatest degree of potential turmoil heartache betrayal and suffering in life in recent decades. There have been a number of conspiracy theories about Maryland suspicious, death and compelling evidence. She may have been murdered one deadly Siri claims that the Kennedys killed Maryland or had her killed because they feared she would reveal government secrets she may have overheard or expose the fact that she had been lovers to both brothers. What's even more interesting twenty years after Marilyn's death her housekeeper Eunice Murray in a nineteen eighty three BBC interview with biographer Anthony summers would reveal who had visited Marilyn the night? She died summer states. There was a moment in the interview where Eunice placed her head in her hands and said, oh, why do I have to keep covering this up? He mmediately asked her what she was covering up. And she stated the fact Bobby Kennedy was there, the nightmare Lynn had died, even more chilling in two thousand seven Australian filmmaker Philippe Mora also discovered a partially redacted F B I document that suggests Robert Kennedy had an affair with Marilyn and may have been complicit in a plot to induce her suicide the F B I file alludes that the Dudley plot was carried out to silence Maryland who had threatened to reveal her affairs with the Kennedy brothers. When row was also thought to be a liability allegedly keeping records of conversations detailing highly confidential. Government information in a little black book. Another interesting theory comes from the independent newspaper in the UK and the allegation that Benard spindle bugged Marilyn's home on the orders of Jimmy Hoffa or Chicago, mafia boss Sam giancana, despite reported sightings of Robert Kennedy in L A and entering Maryland's home. The attorney general stated he was in San Francisco on the night of her tragic death. However, but Nord spindle claims to have heard Bobby and Maryland fighting that night with Peter Lawford present followed by a loud bang thought to be the moment over death. The recordings were reportedly seized and destroyed in nineteen sixty six the conspiracy tells continued to get even more twisted another story is mafia boss Sam giancana one in Maryland dead. According to biographer, Darwin porter, author of Maryland at rainbows in sex lies, murder and the great cover up as she was threatening to blow the lid off his operations. The dawn is said to have had Maryland over a barrel because he had been instrumental in helping secure her first Hollywood contract in return for the seduction of powerful men that the mobster wanted to blackmail, the author believes five mafia hitman where responsible for Maryland's murder on the order of Sam giancana using a wash cloths trenched in chloroform, then stripping her and giving her barbituate anima. One final observation comes from one of our close friends and former lover Marlon Brando who was a master at studying people as an actor. It was his work, and it was his innate ability to mimic others, coupled with his imagination, and empathy that made him give such powerful performances, the actor would later state in an interview after Maryland's death that he believes she didn't commit suicide, but was murdered. Brando believed that he could read people at an incredibly high level. And that no matter how smart a person was the could not completely conceal depression. So in his eyes Maryland couldn't have committed suicide because he would have felt pending danger prior to tragic death. forty said Marilyn Monroe's home? Didn't know who to call what she passed away. So they reached out to her. Former husband Joe DiMaggio. Devastated by the loss of his one true of he immediately flew to Los Angeles to claim her body and make arrangements for her to be buried at Westwood village. Memorial park cemetery were Hollywood's elite was laid to rest. He called Maryland's elder. Half sister, Bernice miracle along was business manager and as Melton to assist hundred Joe dimaggio's direct instructions none of her Hollywood friends were invited because he held them responsible morally if not actually for her death, the private service took place at one pm on August eighth nineteen sixty two Maryland body lay in an open bronze casket lined with champagne colored satin. She was dressed in her green Pucci dress and xifen scarf, a favourite which he had worn at a press conference in Mexico City earlier that year one of her favorite songs over the rainbow played quietly in the background as Lee Strasburg delivered the following eulogy. Was alleged. Rome lifetime. Created. Four girls from the deprived? My around contain. For the entire world. She became a symbol of the attornal. I have no words to describe the legend you want us to do. So I did not know this Marilyn Monroe. We today you only. A warm human being. Postal lonely. Fear of rejection. Reaching out Gilman. I will the privacy of your memory. Privacy and treasured. To describe horrible. You know, you'll you. All memories policy, the names alive. Not only on the screen. Person. Was a devoted loyal friend, Cali constantly reaching protection? We shared up pain and difficulties. Someone had choice. She was a member of family. Difficult to accept the fact that the life has been ended by gut full accidents. Despite the height some Williams. She had attained on the screen was planning for the future. People looking forward to participating in the many exciting things which the plan. And then mind career was just beginning the dream of talent, which he nurtured as a child was not on the loud request came in. I was amazed at the stop Ling sensitivity which possessed which are and then. And struggling to express it despite the light to what she had been subjected. Physically. Beautiful was. Something more and heart something that people saw and. And with which they identified a luminous quality of what's Bowman radiance yearning that Senator apart and yet many everyone with Toby pod and the childish naive, which was one. So and yet, so vibrant. Calling was even more evident when she was on the stage. I'm truly scarring that you'll in the public school up to that not have the opportunity to see as we did the roles that foreshadowed what she would have come without. He would have been one of the really great actresses. Now, it is all. Will start sympathy and understanding. Oh, sensitive oddest and women, bro. Joy. To the world. Goodbye. Good bug. Accuser way, she had turning things around. So that they. I will. Why? Country to what she has gone. When the stole someday. only thirty one mourners were invited to attend. But it was reported that a crowd of five hundred gathered outside the cemetery gate to pay their respects to their beloved Marilyn Monroe while over one hundred policemen reinforced by studio security officers to maintain order. Her ex husband Joe DiMaggio. Wept. Uncontrollably. Leaning over Maryland's casket kissing her on the lips one last time and whispered, I love you. I love you. Over fifty years later what really happened to Maryland. During her final hours remains a mystery. Was it an accidental overdose suicide or a deadly murder? Had Maryland been driven by despair by one of her many failed relationships or did her famous little black book documenting toward fares. Push someone to kill her in a biography published in twenty seventeen dinner with D'amoto memories of an American hero it states. Joe DiMaggio, always knew who killed Maryland. And she had privately told him. She believes someone would do her in. According to the book, he believed in the end, the Kennedy's got away with murder. Perhaps sensing the end was near Maryland created her last will and testament in nineteen sixty one just ten days before her Mexican divorce from Arthur Miller was finalized after Maryland's death. Her will was filed for probate in New York. Surrogate court on August, seventh nineteen sixty two. It was almost immediately contested by one of her business managers as Melton, but it was eventually stablishment as her valid last will and testament, and it was finally admitted appropriate in October nineteen sixty two the will include a provision for half sister, Bernice miracle her secretary may Reese, and one hundred thousand dollars was placed in a trust to go towards the care of her mother. Gladys who would later pass away in nineteen Eighty-four, but the lion's share of Maryland state would be left to her mentor and acting coach Lee Strasburg for the year after Maryland's death. I knows Melton was appointed by the court to administer. And take inventory of the estate, but when she was discharged rather than turning everything. Over to the state Milton kept several items, even though all her personal facts and clothing were to be inherited by acting coach Lee Strasberg later, the Strasburger state would sue the Melton family to stop their plans to sell Maryland's memorabilia, claiming they were illegally owned. The courts agreed ordering the family to turn over whatever Marilyn Monroe property. The family testified to owning after Lee Strasberg's death in nineteen eighty two. The ownership of Marilyn Monroe's image. Went to a surviving spouse. Anna who reportedly made a fortune off that inheritance somewhere in the neighborhood of twenty to thirty million dollars. She used the windfall to strike various licensing deals for publicity rights and products bearing her image today, according to the guide to United States pop culture as an icon of American popular culture, Maryland. Has few rivals in popularity including Elvis Presley. And Mickey Mouse, no other star has ever inspired such a wide range of emotions from less to pity and from envy to remorse. in one of Marnie Monroe's famous quotes. She said in Hollywood girls virtue is much less important than I had. Judge by how you look not by what you are the place where though pay you a thousand dollars for a kiss fifty cents via soul. I know because I turned on the first offer often enough and how out for fifty cents pride to death. Marlin had rekindled a love affair with ex husband Joe DiMaggio on according to close friend more Engelberg to was set to be remarried on August. The eighth nineteen sixty two tragically. She died just three days before they were set to wet after death. Joe arranged for roses to be placed at her grave every week more than twenty years off died. He never spoke of Marlin again in public for the rest of his life. But his dying words showed his during passion for the blunt Beatty as if I death, Joe dimaggio's lost thoughts wealth, the woman, whom he carried a lifelong torch. He's lovely ex wife the foam obey school plateau friends, he would be reunited with her in the off life. Just lost dying was were. Finally, get see Marilyn. Voluminous quality mounted on screen was a light so bright to the world. Even after death light lives on. Death, by misadventure was produced by cosmic media and written by me JC. Nova are supernatural team of co hosts includes the talented Edouardo Fahey in London. Tom drei, our master numerology and paranormal investigator in LA, Paul Robinson match I and musician Marin and myself, I'm a psychic astrologer and paranormal investigator in Los Angeles. And San Francisco this episode was recorded at Robin sound studios Marin, California and also at union recording studio in West Hollywood, California kudos to sound engineers. Paul Robinson and Noah Shanklin, a special. 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#442: Rocky Marciano's Fight for Perfection in a Crooked World
"This episode of the artists Malians podcast is brought to you by squarespace Turner. Great idea into reality with squarespace, squarespace, makes it easier than ever to launch your own passion project, whether you're showcasing your work, selling products of new kind with beautiful templates in the ability to customize just about anything. You can easily make a beautiful website yourself. If you get stuck squarespace, twenty four, seven award winning customer sport is there to help headed squarespace dot com slash manliness for free trial when ready to launch us. The offer code manliness to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain. Advocate here and welcome to another addition of the art of manliness podcast. Rocky Marciano was a slow stocky kid was short arms and stubby legs wasn't the kind of kid you'd pick to one day beat boxer yet. You ought to become the only undefeated heavyweight champion, boxing history. In the process, Marciano became a cultural icon in nineteen fifties America, rubbing shoulders with presidents movie stars in gangsters. How does someone who got a late start sport? It's one of boxing's greatest Athens and what happens to a man when fame and fortune or suddenly thrust upon him. I guess explores those questions in his new book unbeaten rocky Marciano, spiteful perfection in crooked world seems Mike standing in today on the show Mike shares how grit disciplined fate. Let rock to become the only undefeated heavyweight fighter balking history. Mike insures. The challenges rocky face with his new found fame from balancing work and family manage a huge influx of money to navigating the crooked world of organized crime that controlled the world of boxing. When talking about how rocky is both inspiring and tragic figure out of the show's over cheddar show notes is slashing. Marsha, Mike joins me now via clear cast is. Oh. Right, Mike. Stanton, welcome to the show. Hi, Brett. How are you doing well? Well, you got a new bio out about one of the greatest heavyweight boxers of all time. Some would say, you know, this is again, this is up for debate. We'll talk about whether he is the greatest, but one of the greatest heavyweight boxers of all time. That's rocky. Marciano are whether a lot of bios about rocky, or were you surprised at like how little there was written about him when you first started thinking about this project? There were a couple of good bios, but not a lot and not anything real recently. And I thought that rocky was just such a great story in such an embodiment of so much of America American history as well as boxing in the middle of the twentieth century that I thought his story deserved to be told to a new generation of of people who might know who he is. No, he was histories only on beaten champion, but don't. Really know anything beyond the broad outlines and then I'm, here's what was your draw to personally? Because I mean you were, you said, in the book you he was, you were eleven years old when he died. So that me about two years old when he retired. So you probably never saw them fight live, you missed the period when he was like the biggest thing in America. So I mean, without that first hand experience, what what drew you to to writing about him? Well, a couple of things. First of all, I always believe that all history, biography, and I love history, and I love telling stories about America and who we are and how we got here and and rocky seemed like a great embodiment of that. And I discovered his story as a longtime newspaper reporter in Providence, Rhode Island. And I wrote a book prince providence about the longtime mayor, buddy CNC, who was a very colorful rogue and the mayor in more recent times. But when he was a boy, I discovered in my research, his father would take him to fight night at the Red Eye. Island auditorium in providence. And this would have been in the late nineteen forties, early nineteen, fifties. And that was when rocky Marciano was the headliner there. He came from Brockton Massachusetts, about thirty five miles away. And I was just fascinated by that culture. First of all, not just in providence, but across America and around the World. Boxing was one of the biggest sports back in that era. If you're the heavyweight champion of the world, everybody knew who you were. You walked with presidents and kings and movie stars. And I was also interested in that whole colorful guys and dolls era of, you know, the characters who lurked around boxing the mafia, you know the the, the spectacle, the big fight in a smoke filled arena at Madison Square Garden, and then toots Shore's and the nightclub scene afterwards. How big of a deal was, was he doing the nineteen fifties? I mean, how much of a cultural impact did he have on America? He was huge. I mean, if you want to understand America in the nineteen forties and fifties, you know, you need to know about rocky, MARCY. He was the heavyweight champion of the world from nineteen fifty two to fifty six. And that was the that post war era in America. After World War Two, there was this euphoria and he kind of embodied. The American spirit of anything was possible. Anyone could be a contender and he was also the poster boy for American might makes right in this in the Cold War era that we entered into. In fact, the speaker, the US congress. Actually, you know, held him up as a symbol of American superiority. And his manager said that he punched like the atomic bomb. So he was really a reflection of that era. And he was also this is kind of the darker side of that era. He was viewed by a lot of Americans as the great white hope. And that wasn't a mantle. He put on himself. He had a good relationship with black fighters. He respected what they went through, and I get into a lot of that in the book, you know the racial climate, but that was how he was viewed. And you know when he won the champ. Sian ship. He went to the White House and President Eisenhower measured as fist, and Joe DiMaggio was standing there and you know everybody wanted to meet rocky. Yeah, he was the first white heavyweight champion the world for anything like fifteen or twenty years, right? Yeah, since Joe Louis knocked out James Braddock in nineteen thirty seven to break the color line that had been enforced in boxing since the early nineteen hundreds when the controversial Jack Johnson was the champion and Joe Louis, of course, you know, he transcended race. He was, you know, the American champion who beat next Schmeling Hitler's champion in the years, leading up to World War Two. And then he served in the army during the war was an American hero, and he was a hero Rockies. Rocky was listening as a boy when the on the radio at the Brockton fairgrounds, when Lewis knocked out Schmeling and years later when rocky has to face Lewis and knocks out his boyhood idol to put him on the path to the title rock. Cried. Yeah. Well, we can talk about that then a bit somebody. Let's get to his his way. What led to him becoming the heavyweight champion of the world? Because I, I knew nothing about like hardly anything about rocky before this book. So what was he like as a boy did I mean was I read a lot of other buyers have fighters, and you would see you could see signs that they would be a boxer, right? Yeah. Early in life getting lots of scraps or they just they found the local gym. They just hung out there all the time was rocky. Like that was like, you could see from young age like he was destined to become the heavyweight champion of the world? Yes and no. I mean, the first thing he looked hitting was a baseball. I mean, he loved to play baseball, but he loves sports of all kinds. He was, you know, he was a classic. You know, immigrant son father came over from Italy, mother came over from Italy. They met in Brockton. The father worked in a shoe factory Brockton was the shoe factory capital sent out twelve million pairs year around the world and rocky. They. Lived on a big playground and rocky was outdoors and all all weather playing all sports. The other thing, boxing was a big part of our culture back then. And so boys fought kids would set up rings in the neighborhood and someone's backyard, and they would have a fight. They would put on the oversized gloves and go at it and kids spot over bragging rights. You know, s different ethnic groups in Brockton. The Irish kids in the Italian kids would would fight it out or friends would settle their differences, but then they would blow over like a summer storm. And so- rocky was a big strong husky kid. Great appetite. As I said, love sports kind of quiet, but he hung out with some friends who are very mischievous and would get into fights, and then they would call on rocky the strong silent one to kind of, you know, restore order. And so- rocky hadn't neighborhood reputation as the strongest kid in the neighborhood and needed a little, you know, fooling around boxing, but all kids did back then. Yeah. What was his relationship like with his parents? It was very close. He was the eldest son in a family of six, three. Boys and three girls. You know the the oldest son in, you know, firstborn. First generation immigrant family has has a special place. You know, he would be the one that would go to the school with his parents who didn't speak English very well. You know if one of the other siblings was having trouble with a teacher and he was the one when he got older, who would get a paper route and other odd jobs to try to make money to help the family make ends meet. I mean, they grew up, they were in the Italian second mortar Brockton. It was a working class neighborhood, and you know, they struggled during the depression, but you know, his father kept working and you know they made ends meet. And in some ways it was a very idyllic childhood, and he was very close with his parents, and you know, through all the twists and turns it, his life later took, you always remained close to them, and he always had that pride in being their breadwinner. And you mentioned the these friends that he hung out with. I mean, these, these friendships, he made. They didn't weren't just childhood friends with like these lasted throughout his entire life. And some of these guys even had a. A big role in his career as a boxer. Yeah. And what's interesting about rocky is that you know, boxing is a pretty cutthroat business. It was a very cutthroat sport and rocky learned to trust the people who had been within the longest the the people that came along later for the most part, he knew he couldn't trust them. So he always Brockton was always touchstone, you know, his oldest friends, we're always the ones he trusted the most and who were by his side. You know, one friend in particular, who was a few years older, Allie Colombo, you know, live next door always organized baseball games and Allie was the one who really pushed him when he started out in boxing and really didn't know his way and didn't know you know how to go about it. An alley. Was there right through his entire career and other friends would come to his training camps at grossing hers, and you know, keep the spirits up and the there was that bond he had. And the other thing of this was a gambling culture. Everybody bet on things. And when rocky went into the ring, he said, I knew I could never fall down. I, you know, for for the people. Brockton I would always get up because I knew they were counting on me. They were betting their their money on me and I wasn't going to let them down, you know. So we not not much interested in botany. He did have an interest in boxing, but he was more of a baseball player as young boy. And I what I love reading biographies about, you know, about famous people or people who did great things, you know, from decades gone by. I think a lot of young people today, think this idea or this feeling of listlessness or not knowing what they're supposed to do with their lives is like something new. And you know their grandfather's like had it all figured out when they were twenty two as well. But when you read these biographies of these guys like they were just as clueless as twenty-something today and like rocky was the same way like he would. He was in his early twenties and he didn't really have his bearings. He didn't know he wanted to do with his life. No. Well, you know what I mean back then his ticket. There was a one way ticket to the shoe factory and for you know, blue collar Italian kid without. A lot of other opportunities without an education. He dropped out of high school. He was the first to admit that he wasn't a big lover of books. Sports was his way out. And initially he thought that would be baseball. He could hit the ball a mile and he was, you know, short stout prototypical catcher, but maybe you know, life has its twists and maybe it all happened for a reason. But he went down to spring training with the Chicago Cubs in nineteen forty seven, and he had a tryout with them and he hit the ball pretty well. But the supreme irony is that he couldn't make a strong throw to second base from catcher. And here he is the greatest, you know, slugger in heavyweight history can't make a strong throw to second, and that was his undoing in baseball. What do you think kill them back from from having that strong throat is by being throw a really strong punch? Well, he said that he had injured his arm in the army playing sports. It was never quite clear, but you know, let's face it. The the competition is stiff in to make the major league baseball, rosters, especially back then when there are far. Fewer teams? Yeah. And you know, and there are a lot of good ball players from Brockton. I mean, he went down with some friends who were good ball players and some stuck in the the miners. I years one made it to the triple eight dodgers team, but then got hurt and stop playing. And actually they were signed by the scout that signed the Chicago Cubs player who was the inspiration for the movie, the natural. So you know a lot of good ball players then, and that was Rockies love. And later when he became a successful boxer, he found himself being friends with Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio, and you know, other great baseball stars, like Yogi Berra. Yeah, so, but it's still at this point like he wasn't boxing like regularly? Well, not, no. And what's interesting though when you like I was saying everything happens for reason when he was when he became a boxer, his trainer incorporated some of his baseball mannerisms, particularly his cr- catcher's crouch into his fighting style because rocky was short. And he needed, you know, to get up close to his opponents to, you know, be able to hit them and that opened them up to being hit. So he had to be, you know, he had to be down low so they couldn't get at them. Yeah. Well, so another thing that added to Marciano, HS all American appeal when he became a celebrity was that he served in the army during World War Two. But the thing is he never really talked about it much. Why is that? Well, one of the things I discovered in my research for this book, I heard some rumblings. He had some problems in the army, and when I got his army file from the national archives in Saint Louis, I discovered that he had been court-martialed along with another GI for robbing and assaulting. Two British civilians rocky was over in England on the eve of the d day invasion. He was in an army combat engineers unit that was going to deploy to Normandy as part of the invasion. And on the night he got into trouble. He was supposed to be. Find to base because the d day was coming and he and his friends snuck off as they went to a pub, they met a couple of British civilians who work for an airplane company. They were back at the civilians apartment and they, they got into a fight and they robbed them and and punch them and and we're later court martials. So they never deployed to Normandy and rocky wound up being sentenced and wound up serving two years in the military prison back in Indiana. And this was in the spring and nineteen forty four around the time of day. And then he was freed in the spring of nineteen forty six the year after the war ended. And unlike most people who were, you know, drafted into the army for or two who service ended with the war rocky state in through the end of nineteen forty six. So he could come out with an honorable discharge. And that was really a pivotal point when his boxing career really begins in a more formal way because he goes out and serves in fort Lewis, Washington state. Eight, any boxes on the army, boxing team, which is a very good team. And he starts to fight regularly for the first time and he gets himself into shape. He had fought an amateur fight back in Brockton before he went out to fort Louis, but he was totally out of shape. He went over to his uncle's house, needed a big dish macaroni before the fight, and he ran out of gas in the second round, and he needed a point opponent in the in the groin and was disqualified. So after that he said, I'm not going to bear myself anymore. He got himself into shape in the army and p box pretty well out there. And he went to the national AU championships in Portland, Oregon, where he reached the finals and another fateful turn happened in his career at this point in the semi's because he was so clumsy. He could hit hard, but he was very clumsy. He hit his opponent on the head and he he's fractured knuckle very severely and it could have been a career ending injury and fatefully. There was a Japanese American army surgeon. At fort Lewis, Thomas Takeda who performed an experimental operation and saved Rockies knuckle and allowed him to be able to fight and interesting doctors. Takeda's family had been interned in Japanese American prison camps during World War Two, but Dr Takeda was in medical school and was spared that and he was in the right place at the right time as far as Rockies career was concerned. So when he started boxing on the army team, like did he did he have any formal boxing training, or do you just kind of get in there and sort of like going back falling back into those school yard scraps? He had like, that's how he boxed. Yeah, he box like, yeah, that's how he box. I mean, they had coaches on the army team and they started to give him advice and you know he was, he was training so he could. He could, you know, have the energy to go, you know, the distance and the fights he had unless he knocked his opponent out as he often did, but he was still very ru. He was very rude and crude and and well into his career as a professional. He was. Is well, but this was the beginning of the formal education of rocky Marciano in the ring. And what point in this, you know, how old was he at this point? Let's kind of get some context there. He would have been about twenty two twenty three years old. At this point twenty two years old set me. It's kind of a late start getting into the boxing game. Yeah, his trainer, Charlie Goldman once said, you know, he started way too late. I got a guy who's got two left feet. He stoop shouldered. He's balding. He don't look so good with the moves in the ring, but his opponents don't look so good on the canvas either. Right. And so what point did rocky think like I could turn this like boxing is going to be my ticket out of the shoe factory, like when did he think that that was going to be reality? Well, after he got out of the army at the beginning of nineteen forty seven, he carried on his boxing experience. He fought some amateur fights. Gold Gloves, fights in New England, but then he had his baseball tryout with the cubs that spring and he really wasn't so enamored with boxing. It was just a way to make a pay. Check while he waited for the baseball career to take off. And once that didn't take off, he came back in the spring of forty, seven, and that was when he started boxing and Ernest and his friend, Allie Colombo was the first one that really see that. You know, he thought rocky could go all the way which seems pretty ridiculous to think about back then, but that was the dream that alley had and and rocky didn't really have any alternatives. And the interesting thing you asked about his relationship with his parents. You know, the first son of an Italian mother. She hated the idea of him fighting, didn't wanna see him fight would be upset about it. So he's to sneak out of the house to train. And you know, in the spring of forty seven, he went, he snuck out to holyoke, Massachusetts, and he fought his first professional fight, and he fought it under an assumed name. Rocky MAC, an Irish name on Saint Patrick's Day in an Irish working class city, and he won his first fight. And then you know, he kind of crept back to Brockton without letting his mother. No. And later when she did find out he was fighting. She always made him promise that he would stop if he ever got hurt, and she'd always make him lift up his shirt and inspect his body for marks to see if he could keep fighting well, didn't. He like that affected his fighting style because he would. He would stand certain ways he wouldn't face when he later got a a season manage of manager and trainer, and they looked at him and said, why are you? You know, holding your hands up like that and letting people hit you in the stomach. He goes, well, I just figured let them punch themselves out. I, I don't wanna get hit in the face because that would leave a Mark. And then my mom would see it and his mother was this indomitable woman Pasqualina or Lena, and that's where she got. That's where he got his strength from. She was a big, powerful woman, very gregarious, five Asia's the heart and soul of that family. And you know, his friends would say that he she was the one person that people feared in his house. So rocky starts boxing semi professionally, he's, I mean he's trying to maintain an amateur status, so you can be eligible for the. A you golden glove, right? But you know, like those rules got flouted all the time. People would fight like he did fight under different names. Yeah. When did he get connected with like a legit manager and trainer that would lead him and train him to actually hit, you know, turn pro. Well, that would be in in the summer of nineteen forty eight. He'd been boxing, some amateur fights. He'd won the New England golden gloves and Lowell, Massachusetts, and he went down to New York where he lost to Coley Wallis was kind of a young upcoming lack fighter who is hailed as the next Joe Louis. The only way he was the next Joe Louis was he played him in a movie, but Wallace won a controversial decision in New York that a lot of people felt should have gone to rocky. And that probably cost rocky a shot at the Olympics, the Olympic team. But at that point, the local manager in Brockton that rocky head for amateur fights. You know, they weren't really getting along and Rockies had some. Family advisors who'd been in the fight game, and they said, you've got to go to New York. You've gotta get connected manager. New York is the center of the boxing universe and boxing, such a treacherous sport you gotta you gotta have a guy with connections is going to look out for you get you the proper training and get you. You know, the the fights to put you on the path to the top. So he went to New York, and he got a meeting with the premier manager at the time guy named l. wile who was a great character. And while was the matchmaker for the International Boxing club, which controlled boxing or would be, and he was very influential. He'd had three champions and other way classes, and you know, so he got hooked up with Al Weill and l. wile brought along his trainer. Charlie Goldman who was a walking encyclopedia, boxing knowledge, earned in four hundred. You know, bantamweight fights of his own in the early nineteen hundreds. And so with those two guys in his corner, rocky started a more formal education in the ring that would later put him on the path to the. Title Billy initially, these guys didn't think much of rocky. No, they didn't. And you know, he was a guy who was very clumsy. He was very awkward. He was slow. He was short. He was old for a fighter starting out and they actually bought him brought him down to the gym down in lower Manhattan. CYO. Jim just had him Spar a few rounds with a guy, and they're looking at each other Goldman and wile, and some of the other guys in the gym and they're shaking their heads and then suddenly out of nowhere rocky floors, the guy with this thunderous you know looping. Right. And then they started to take notice, and you know later Charley Goldman with nickname that punch the Suzie q., and it was that punch that convinced them and also Rockies dedication. They could tell you really wanted it. He wasn't going to run around and fool around with girls and party, and you know, he was going to train and he was among about it. And so they took a chance on them and you know it didn't cost them anything. You know, they told them to train. And they weren't putting any money into them at the beginning and because rocky didn't really have a lot of money. He was digging ditches back in Brockton. They wanted him to move to New York and train, but they didn't want to pay his expenses. And he said, well, I can't afford that. So while who's connected all over the place sent him to Providence Rhode Island, which was the fight capital of New England back then as well as the mob capital. And that's where rocky started to fight because he could, you know, live at home in Brockton and he could go over to providence for fights. And then he would hitch a ride on overnight produce trucks down from Brockton to New York to train with Goldman, and he lived at the YMCA for a dollar a night, right? So, yeah, this is like this is the tip of the prototypical boxing story, like he was living at fully. Yeah. I mean, I love the images. I found of him and his friend, Allie who was by his side for all of this, and they would roll off the produce truck at like four in the morning and lower Manhattan, and the sun would be coming up and they didn't have much money in. Their pockets, and they would just walk the streets and at night for entertainment, they would walk up and down Broadway watching the people in their fine clothes. And you know dream of that life and one time he saw the, you know, the great fighter Willie pep who was a champion, and he saw him walking up Broadway with a beautiful woman on his arm, and they were both well dressed, and he bought her a flower and Hindu tour lapel. And they went into a fancy theater and rocky dreamed of having that life. So he's in providence, he's doing some fights doing the work. What point? What was the fight that brought rocky to the to the national stage like, yeah, he, he was a contender. Yeah. Well, he built his record up in providence and he became a real crowd favourite their first of all provinces of big talion American town. And so they loved him and everybody loved his knockout punch. There came a tradition in providence that whenever you know, rocky would be ready to knock out one of his opponents. You know he would hit. Them with his punch, his Suzie q., and the guy would kind of stand there and topple for a minute. And then he would crash to the canvas and the crowd with yell timber. And so- rocky started to develop a reputation and after a few fights, the local promoter was initially, you know, angry without wile because I'll Weill would always, you know, betray these other managers and cut deals. It would screw them. And so they kept trying to put guys in the ring that would beat rocky and while up but rocky kept knocking them out. And finally, while set, you know, the local promoter said l. you better lock this guy up. He's, you know, starting to get a following. So while signed him to a contract. And that's when he started to come down in New York and train. So he kept winning all these fights. And then he finally gets to the point where he has his first big feature fight in Madison Square Garden a few nights before New Year's Eve in nineteen forty nine, and he fights a guy named Carmine bingo who is also an unbeaten up and coming younger talion fighter. From the Bronx who has a big following their seem as bingo, bingo, and they have one of these great unknown fights that really puts rocky on the map in some ways, it puts them on the map for the wrong reasons because they start wailing away on each other. And it's like two heavyweights fighting at the speed and intensity of lightweights and their landings landing thunderous punches on each other. And the New York Times rotor writer wrote that it would seem like more than human, you know, endurance could stand and finally in the six in like the third or fourth round thing, go hit rocky, a tremendous shot to the chest and rocky later said he blacked out, but he stayed on his feet and just went into a clinch until he could re regain his senses and in the six round with bingo, tiring rocky, you know, hit him with a thunderous, right? Put him on the canvas than his head kind of thumped up and hit the canvas again. And while rocky was celebrating bingo, slipped into a coma and later, you know, the ring doctor tried to revive him was unsuccessful. They called an ambulance. They couldn't get an. Ambulance to come. So they piled blankets and coats on him and and carried him through the streets of Manhattan to nearby hospital. And then rocky heard about it and went over there and and stood. 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Percent off your first purchase of a website or go Maine, and now back to the show, how did that affect the rest of Rockies careers? I'm sure like knowing that you almost killed a guy would I don't know make you a bit timid next time you go into the ring. Absolutely. And it did, but the long term effect would have been had bingo died. You know, rocky said that he's not sure he could've continued. Had bingo, died. I, I'm not sure that's true. And in Rockies friends think he would've continued, but still you wonder how the effect it's gonna have on you, and that's the specter of boxing, isn't it? That's death in the ring that lurks. And it's interesting you know, in researching this period, I found that as popular as boxing was it was kind of like the NFL of its day and people loved it. But they also had this love hate relationship with it, and they realized that they were like, you know, lusting for blood and lusting for the thrill of seeing another man potentially killed or maimed, and there was a lot of hand wringing publicly about whether box. Had a role in society. And interestingly, you know, rocky later came around some of those us later in life. But at the time there was a lot of talk about what kind of reforms can we put in the boxing to make it safer. Can you make it safer? But it did bother rocky. He was very unedu- about what had happened and other great fighters. You know his trainers and other great fighters lose their killer instinct. And his next fight was his next big fight in the garden against role. Endless stars who was another unbeaten, young darling heavyweight of the New York press. He was very stylistic. He'd gone a local college, but he was a guy that lacked killer instinct and they kind of they kind of compared it to a Dempsey versus Tonny fight. You know, Dempsey being rocky, the hard hitter and tunny being the more thoughtful strategic defensive fighter and rocky won that fight in a very narrow controversial, ten round decision, and that is since we're garden, and that really put him on the path to being a contender. And from then on his fights were headline. Inner fights. He wasn't on the undercard after that fight in nineteen fifty, the stars rape, and then he eventually fights. Joe Louis. This wasn't for the title though. Correct? There was another guy who held the title, Joe Louis jersey, Joe Walcott, and as Charles were champions in reverse order after Lewis step down. And then what happened was you know this, the tragedy of Joe Louis is life was he had a lot of debts and he needed to come back into the ring to try to make money even though he was past his prime, but he was still the Brown bomber. He was still Joe Louis. And so when rocky was rising to contender status, Lewis was suddenly the the match that was made for them to face each other. And when rocky one that fight in October of nineteen fifty one, he was kind of declared the champion in waiting. And again, some of this goes the racial overtones of the era that after Joe Louis the black champions, we're kind of unsung and really didn't never really connected with the public and. Hockey was seen as the fresh face a white face, the great white hope if you will. And once he Joe Louis his idol, he was the, he was the top contender to the crown. I wonder if rocky rocky seen Joe Louis had an influence on how rocky decided to end his career because it's like Joe Louis story, super sad, but that was the story of a lot of heavyweight. A lot of boxers in that time they would go and they'd make a lot of money and they retire and they would need more money. So they'd come out of retirement and they're past their prime, and they're still trying to win one more fight. And it's sad, right? And it's just tragic. And I, I wonder if rocky saw that it was like, I'm not going to do that. So that's why you just decided I'm I'm going to walk away, walk away completely from boxing. Yeah, he was forty. Nine. Oh, you was in his early thirties. He still had some fights left in him. Fifty zero would have been a nice round number, but he, you know, there are two things that rocky was afraid of. He was afraid of not having money, you know, he grew up in the depression. He also saw a lot of fighters who got fleeced and left with nothing. You know, they lived the good life while it was there, and then it was gone. He also saw a lot of, you know, broken down fighters who you know are sitting alone, mumbling and bars, and you know their wits aren't all about them, and he feared that those are the two things he feared. And he was really kind of a, he was a real assassin in the ring, but he was a pretty gentle man out of it and he didn't really hold grudges against fighters. The one time he really got mad at a fighter though was when he was champion and he fought role in stars in a rematch and he was angry that before the fight stars was quoted making some comments about the way rocky fights. He takes so many punches he's going to become Punchdrunk and that really struck a nerve with rocky because he feared that and he didn't want that. And he knew when the walk away and there were some other reasons we can get into about his manager stealing from him. But again, goes back to his, you know. Fear of not having enough money, but that was that he had the presence of mind and later in life he helped Joe Louis. He helped Joe Louis get jobs. And when he met Muhammad Ali late in his life Ali wife poll rocky aside one day and said, do you think I can get, you know, Muhammed to retire and rocky looked at her and said, no, Darlan. He's got the, he's got the lust in his eye and he's just gonna have to. He's too big an ego. He's not going to stop. So you mentioned once rocky decided he was going to do boxing. He became pretty much among like he quit smoking. He quit drinking and then his, you go into his training camps, and he become even more monk light. So walk us through his training regimens to get ready for a fight in like the the extremes he'd go to to make sure he was in tiptop shape for a fight. Rocky realized that his body was his temple. And you know, he would train for months. He would do. He would run relentlessly even and he would box like several hundred rounds to prepare for ten or fifteen round fight. And the other thing about him is even when he wasn't formerly in training, he would always be working out. You know, his brother talked about waking up in the middle of the night, you know, and there's rocky, you know, on the floor doing push up, you know, push ups with a chair, or you know, some exercise, you know, squeezing a ball with his hand to strengthen, you know, the knuckles that he had broken. So he was. Always training and he liked the heat. He said, all this reminds me of digging ditches and Brockton. You know, he liked enduring punishment. Sometimes he would go up to grossing in the catskill mountains of New York in the winter. And he said that the cold wind would toughness skin, so he was he was a rough, tough guy? Yeah. Yeah, not only was it like the physical training was hard like he would. He would sort of, I don't know, spiritually psychologically prepared over these sites like he would have no distractions whatsoever. He wouldn't see his family. He would cut off mail. It was just thinking about fighting all the time. Yeah, you wouldn't read stories about his opponents, and he would just have paint mental pictures and some ways he was a good model for athletes today about how to train. He was ahead of his time in terms of, you know, avoiding fried foods and eating green vegetables, and you know things like that. He he also somewhere early on, somebody told him, don't lift weights and get yourself all bulked up. He was more about flexibility, and even though he was not, you know, the most graceful of fighters. You know, he kind of incorporated that into his training. One of the things he did when he was young, he would go to the Brockton YMCA and getting the swimming pool, and he would throw punches underwater. And he would go like mach three rounds. And you know, people would come into the pool area and see the water sloshing up over the sides from the force of his underwater punching, right? So, yeah, he had a lot of disciplined. He knew how to just discipline himself, incredible discipline. There's a great story. I found there was a Hollywood bombshell actress named Jayne Mansfield, kind of like Marilyn Monroe type and she goes, she's the cat. The grossing his training camp was also, you know, big entertainment, mecca. A lot of Hollywood stars go and entertain the people at the resort down the hill from where rocky trained. So they're always stars around and Jayne. Mansfield was grossing. Once when rocky was training and some friends thought it would be kind of a funny joke to send her into his cabin to see if she could seduce him and she went in and you know, not many men would say no to Jayne Mansfield. Back then, but he said no. And she left his cabinet in a huff, you know frustrated. He had rejected her which she wasn't accustomed to. Right. But that was rocky. He said there would be plenty of time for living the good life later. But again, it was I think that fear that drove him and that pride, you know, even even if he got knocked down while he was sparring, he would wanna Spar more say, I just slipped and fell there. Was that fierce pride? Well, yeah. You mentioned earlier that when he fought like he, he felt like the weight of the world on his shoulders. He wasn't just fighting for him and his family when we talk about his family life here in a bit, but he's also fighting for the people in Brockton because he knew people were probably betting enormous amounts of money on him and he couldn't let them down. Yeah, they were. I mean, it was part of the culture. Then people gambled and you know he was a kid. He would go to these illegal dice games in the woods behind the the ball field, or there was a a one legged gambler from providence named peg leg. Pete would run them and gambling was ingrained in the culture. And it was interesting. I found that when rocky started his rise in boxing, you know, started getting the bigger fights. The people in Brockton you know, little old Italian ladies and men would you know, take the money that the dollar Bill stashing their coffee tins and they would bet it on rocky, and then he'd win and they'd take the winnings and they'd roll it over and bet on the next flight and the next flight. And then you'd hear stories about people in Brockton we'd be buying, you know, refrigerators and stoves and cars, and even new houses. And there was one taxi driver after rocky became champion. He told a visitor that, you know before every fight, he takes his elderly Italian couple to the local loan company so they can borrow money and he said, heaven help Brockton if rocky ever loses. But he never did. And he said, you know, I knew that these people were counting on me and for them I would always get up. Yeah, Rockies Italian, American family, obviously, very important. He gets married, took them a while because as manager. Or didn't want him to get married because it would distract from boxing, but he finally does get married to his wife, Barbara, right Saturday. He gets married to Barbara cousins. Yeah, but I mean, so he was gone all the time. So how did his boxing career? How did he balanced boxing or family, or did he? Well, that was a real tension not so much in his marriage. At the time. It was more attention within himself because you know his wife Barbara, she was a good natural athlete and she accepted what he was doing and she was willing to make the sacrifice, but it was hard on rocky. You know, he wa- he talk about, you know, I've just gotten married or engaged, and I can't see my my wife or my fiance, and then when they had a daughter after he became champion, he would bemoan you know, I miss my family. I haven't seen my daughter in eight months. I go home and she doesn't even know me. She scared of me and runs away. And you know, this is a guy that grew up with strong family bonds. So that was hard. But he also loved boxing, he loved training, and you know he was willing to. The sacrifice and he didn't regret doing it. So what I found interesting about Rockies careers, even though he was winning every match, he was in a knocking people out the journalist and the boxing critics were. I mean, they, they still, they weren't that impr- like they always criticizing him and then he wasn't that. He wasn't actually that great of a boxer. I mean, what? What was their critique against rocky despite him winning every single round that he every single match he was put in? Well, he was slow. He was awkward. He was clumsy. He wasn't a great stylist. People were used to the stylists, like Joe Louis who are very graceful and you know, counterpunchers and good strategists and or quick and could move in and out. And he was like a bulldozer, and you know, he was like a working class guy. He'd come in with his pick axe, and he just keep banging on the brick wall and seemingly futility until suddenly the wall crumbled. And finally, again the the Cold War. America started to embrace that, you know heavy puncher and they started to like that about him. But you know, he was a guy who could never went on dial points and you know, even as he advanced in his career, you know, he and his trainer would admit that, you know, he's not the most graceful guy, but there's more than one way to win a fight and rocky had the punch. And he also had the ability to take a punch and taking credible punishment and keep going. You know, when he was knocked down when he was bloody when his nose was hanging in, you know, tatters and bleeding like a faucet, he just kept coming. Yeah, the dedication or the determination, the grit that he had that seemed that that surprised opponents. That'd be like, I, I gave them a really good, you know, wall up, but like he just he didn't go down. You just kept coming at me. One opponents said it was like hitting the side of a rhino Archie Moore said it was like waiting into a moving airplane propeller and another opponent early on said that every time rocky hit you, you saw a flash of light right? So let's talk about his manager because his manager, as you said, he's a character. Someone described him as Hitler and Mussalini rolled into one or something like that had connections to the mob. What what was Rockies always? He's talion American. He's a boxer so he must have rubbed shoulders Cincinnati in early day since he was a kid. He was also going this gambling. So you probably saw it encountered it. What did he think about was one of those things where he was both. There was tension there like he was both appalled and sorta drawn to it at the same time, very much attention. And that would manifest itself more after he retired from the ring, and he needed a new outlet for, you know, the adrenaline rush of boxing and he would hang around these dangerous mobsters who all adored him and they adored him because he was one of them. He was a countryman, but also because he did them proud and he resented that. You know, anti Italian prejudice and stereotype that mobsters brought onto his race and he resented, you know, the corruption in boxing in the mob control permeated it, and it didn't matter whether you were black Italian, Latino Irish. I mean, if you were a boxer in your, you know, in the mix, you had to deal with the mob in some way, shape or form because they were in the background behind all of it. And so of course, you know the the flip side of the coin rocky gets one of the most politically connected managers in boxing l. wile. And that means that l. wile is is also answers to Frankie carbo who's in the Torius mobster known as the underworld Commissioner of boxing, as well as a hitman for murdering implicated in five murders, including his former partner Bugsy Siegel and l. wile though was a real character and there's real tension between rocky and and while throughout his career. First of all, he hitches in star to this, you know. Big time manager and he's happy about that because he's going to get on the shot at the title l. y. was an interesting character. You know, he and Charlie Goldman came of age, you know, both poor immigrants Jewish immigrants from New York from Europe. In the early nineteen hundreds, they come to New York. They battled their way up. And while interestingly, he started dancing in the dancehalls and winning five dollars in these dance competitions, and that's how he survived. And one of his rivals was a young up and coming future star actor named George raft. This is in Manhattan and later he gravitates into the boxing game, and it turns out he's got a real gift for matching fighters, and so he gets into that, but he still hustling odd jobs. Boxing is still illegal a lot of the a lot of years in the early nineteen hundreds. And so he's working at the golden city amusement park in on the waterfront in Brooklyn and Canarsie. And he he's running the high striker you know, getting guys to impress their girls by, you know, take in the mouth. Allitt and hitting the bell, and you know, winning prize and nearby. He meets this guy. This old, you know, broken down boxer named Charley Goldman who's running the wheel of fortune and they wind up striking up this great partnership. The produces three world champions, you know, lightweight Lou ambers featherweight, Joey Archibald in a welterweight in mardi Cervo, but they've never, you know, the one crown that's alluded them is the heavyweight crown, the most glamorous of all. And so when they take rocky on Rockies eager because now he's got the best management. But while is very domineering, you know, there's one profile compares him to Hitler. Mussolini Stalin and Simon Greer rolled into one, and this is a favourable profile. But while was the master manipulator he was a control freak and he would tell his fighters, you know, went to eat, went to sleep where to go, who you know, whether they could date when they could marry. And he was very domineering, his very crude and. Abrasive, and you know, didn't always treat rocky well and rocky bristled at that. But he had enough, you know, restraint, he knew he had to, you know, put up with that to get to the title. And so you know, that was the that was the uneasy marriage that lasted throughout his career and eventually broke up and was a big reason. The rocky retired when he did oils talk about his retirement. So he, you mentioned that he loved boxing, he loved training, but when he was getting to like, you know, when forty eight forty, seven. He was talking to people's like I just it's just doesn't do it for me anymore. Like there's, I've climbed all the mountains, what I'm what what else am I supposed to do? So there was that. And what else about his relationship with wile that made him wanna retire as well? Well, as I said, while was connected to the mob and the mob would skim the money from a lot of these fights because it became a very Luke, you know, we always know. I mean, Dan. Runyon guys and dolls, I mean, that's Rockies life, and that's the world of boxing. And so we know the mob is always been around the fight game and all these characters. But what people don't realize I discovered in researching this book was after World War Two, boxing becomes bigger time because of all the new TV money TV is suddenly in every Americans home and the two biggest early forms of entertainment were boxing, and I love Lucy. And so there's a lot of money now to be made. And so while is is taking half of Rockies money earnings even for public appearances outside of the ring, which is a lucrative side business for champions. And on top of that rocky starting to hear rumblings that while is is selling tickets. You know, under the table that he's not sharing any of the proceeds with rocky, you know, to his big fights that he's skimming money off the top of his purses before he gives it up and then he's fighting in San Francisco against Don. Cal. In the spring of nineteen fifty-five second last fight. And there's a boxing investigation of the corruption out there that later uncovers ten thousand dollar check that was cashed and went to while that was skimmed off the top Iraqis purses. So this was all starting to build up in rocky. And now he's the champion. He's got some independence and he's just had it and he's also burned out from, you know, when you train his heart and as long as he did, even though his career was relatively short, he he was, he had had it and he was starting to have some in, you know, back trouble. Any did see what happened to Joe Louis? And he did see what happened to some of these other broken down fighters needed wanna follow in their path. And so he decided after he fought Archie Moore and Yankee Stadium in the fall of nineteen fifty-five that that was it, he was done and he walked away. So we retires. I mean, this guy, you know, for the past was ten years, just constantly. Moving constantly training always going after something. What does it guy like that do when there's nothing to go after like no set goal to go after? Yeah, he kinda drifts at first. He enjoys it and he's the most famous man in the world. He can command all kinds of money from business deals. Speaking fees, people wanna throw money at him. They wanna give him, you know, land. They wanna give him suits, restaurants, hotels, plane flights. And so he's he's living the good life and he's enjoying all the things he'd deprived himself of when he trained. He's gorging himself on rich food and beer. And you know, he's gaining a lot of weight and he's also starting to become, you know, pretty notorious womanizer and he also starts hanging out with mob guys. You know, again, they, they love him and he's kind of drawn to the, you know, the danger and the excitement and the action. And so this becomes his life and I pictured, you know, in meanwhile, the country is changing. You know, he retires in nineteen fifty-six. You know, boxing, this is kind of the last golden age of boxing, and it starts to decline in popularity. People. Wish he would come back. You know, Mohammed Ali comes along the kind of breed. A new life into it, you know, for his career and the nineteen sixties comes along and the country is changing and he, you know, in the late fifties, he goes down to Cuba and there's some talk about him getting involved in a mob, run casino down there. And then shortly after he's supposed to, he leaves he supposed to come back the, you know, some of cadet Fidel Castro's guerrillas shoot up the casino and then to Dell Castro, overthrows the government down there and the casinos all have to shut down. So that deal goes away. You know, he meets within the Torius mobster Johnny Rosselli about taking a stake in Las Vegas casino and that deal falls through. But he has a lot of other things going on and he actually does get involved with the Cleveland loan, shark named Peter Dharavi. Oh, and you know, winds up putting some money into the Graabo's business, and then the IRS is sniffing around one of the real eccentric. Things about rocky in retirement. This goes back to his depression child, and I suppose is he loves cash, doesn't trust banks. He hides cash. And all sorts of bizarre places. You know, toilet bowls, curtain rods, he's got a friend who has an estate in Florida. He hides it in his bomb shelter. And so this is Rockies life and he's traveling around, and you know the IRS is asking this Cleveland loan, shark will, whereas all this cash coming from and they, he said, it's rocky Marciano in the IRS wants to talk to the loan, shark about it, and they want rocky to answer some questions and Rockies heading out to Cleveland when the loan, shark is out golfing and he gets shot dead on the course because he'd been having a feud with some local mob bosses about his loansharking business. Yeah, that was his. His financial stuff was really interesting. Love cash and like I think one of his friends, you know, right? Romans threw one of his pants pockets, and he found these crumpled up checks for fifty thousand one hundred thousand dollars, not cashed. And he's like, rocky, why don't you cash them? It's one hundred thousand dollars. I don't like I don't like checks. I only only like cash. Yeah, there was. One time his nephew told me a story that rocky goes to a dinner to give a speech, and he walks into the ballroom, and he sees a heavy bag hanging from the ceiling. He says, what's that for? And the guy says, well, we thought you'd like you hit the bag a few times for the crowd and rocky basically looks at the guy and cusses him out and says, what do you think? I am a trained monkey and he goes, I'll tell you what, if you want them meet a hit the bag, you take up a collection and like one hundred bucks a pop, and they look at them like, well, where are we going to get the money? And he looks out that this well dressed crowd, and he says from them and apparently they raised it and he, he hit the bag, but it was there was a sadness about his existence like like a Welsh, linking sixties, the world is changing. Yeah, kind of picture that mythical character Don Draper in the TV series madman. You know, he's kinda wandering through this changing country, wondering what is places and you know, he's kind of on more from his family. You know, he doesn't go back to Brockton much. Has his mother. Laments that he's doesn't see his family, you know often enough and he's still cares about them. And he feels almost like a hamster on a wheel that he has to keep doing this. You know this thing so he can bring in money to support the family and fly him the Florida and fly him on vacations. And you know, he takes his nieces down with his daughter to see, you know, chubby checker and little Eva. And you know to live this lifestyle, any kind of, you know, he's kind of wistful. He looks at his married brothers and sisters, and he says, you know you, you have a good. You have a normal life and everybody doesn't call your name when you walk down the street and you know, you know where you're going to be sleeping tonight. I mean he the also dies tragically in a plane crash and the way he kept his finances hiding cash all over the place that put his actually ended up putting his family and financial. You know straits. Yeah, because they, they didn't. They didn't know where the money was at. Yeah, it was terrible. I mean he and it was this kind. Cheapness that did emend because often he would get, you know, these airline tickets to go fly somewhere to do an appearance and he would cash in the ticket and he'd find some, you know, rich businessman with his own private plane. The flying for free because everybody door the the ex champ. And so he's in Chicago, and he's supposed to fly home to Florida where he's living at the time to celebrate his birthday the next day. This is in nineteen sixty nine at the end of August. And he gets a last minute proposition from a mobster pal and Chicago fly out to the Moines. My nephew has a steakhouse. They're put in an appearance and then you can go back home tomorrow. So he agrees and he gets on a little Cessna airplane. Midway airport in Chicago with the mobsters nephew in this inexperienced pilot, and they fly out toward the Moines, and they fly into a massive midwest Sunder storm and the pilot loses visibility. And he crashes in a cornfield outside of the Moines and the Jew. Jim Murray from the Los Angeles Times the next day wrote, you know, stop the count. He'll get up. We're all wishing today that there was an honest referee in cornfield Iowa, but he dies. And now his family doesn't know where whereas money is his daughter later talked about how they hired detectives and they searched for it. They went to some of his friends where he, they believed he had stashed cash and suddenly the friends didn't know nothing and so they struggled. Yeah, I'm I love reading biographies of boxers because their stories are both like inspiring, right? Like the discipline that rocky show during his career dedication determination has grid, but they're also tragic and I don't. I don't know why that combination of inspiring and tragic is appealing to me. Maybe it's just it makes a good story. Right. I'm curious, definitely makes for good. Yeah. I'm curious as you researched and wrote about rocky Marciano, what life lessons did you take from him. Both, like you know, positive ones. Like I wanna be like that and also like sort of as a warning like don't don't emulate that. Well. I mean, rocky was true to himself until he wasn't. And those are both positive and negative life lessons v true to yourself and don't lose who you are. And you know, for most of his remarkable career, he never lost sight of who he was and he never lost sight of his goal. And he put all distractions and obstacles aside in his pursuit of perfection. But he lived as my subtitle of the book, says in a crooked world, and that tension was re what really drew me to this story and really transcends boxing, it's, you know, surviving in a world that's changing where there's all kinds of hidden intrigue and corruption, and you have to make sacrifices to to get where you want to go and try to preserve your humanity in the process. And the fact that rocky kind of walk this tightrope was what really drew me to historian some ways. He came out triumphant. And in other ways, of course you know his his life had a tragic ending will Mike, is there someplace people can go to learn more about the book? Well, it's available online and it stores everywhere. It's called unbeaten. Rocky Marciano, fight for perfection in crooked world and the publisher Henry Holt, Mike, STAN. Thanks so much for coming on. This has been been a great conversation. Well, thank you, Brad, appreciate it. I guess it was my extend. He's the author of the book unbeaten rocky Marciano, his fight for fiction and crooked world to be able to Amazon dot com and bookstores everywhere. They can find out more notes in delve deeper this topic or show notes at AOL dot IS, slash Marciano. Well, that s up another dish of the art of manliness podcast. For more manly tips and advice makes the art of manliness website at artists Manley's dot com. And if you join the show doesn't out of it at pre shoot his user viewing IT to Stitcher, helps out a lot, and he's done that already. 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I-5 Series Game 4 Postgame Show
"Sports fans on Henry Schulman here host the recap of game. Four the interstate five world series. Which is now northern California's to lose after seven six. Come from behind victory over the southern California's Angel Stadium the nor cows. Now have a three to one lead in the best of seven golden greats world series so the so cows have their work cut out for them only six of forty six teams to fall behind three to one and a world series of Comeback Win and a comeback is the game four story. Northern California was down sixty four in the seventh inning when Garrett Cole trying to rebound from a terrible relief appearance in game one allowed a two run Ricky Henderson. Travolta tie the game jolt and Joe Dimaggio. Then got ricky home with a sacrifice fly for a seventy six lead for the northerns and that's where it stayed and then in what had to be one of the great encounters of this series or any series. Dennis ECKERSLEY got the save by striking out Ted Williams to end the game. Which I'm sure made Ted Williams extraordinarily pleasant Afterwards Barry Bonds hit his fifth home. Run of this interstate five series but he was outdone by mark. Maguire who had a pair of homers off. Stewart is former Oakland a's teammate Henderson. Also had a two run homer that was off Stephen Strasburg and had four. Rbi's on the day we bring in the genius. Northern California manager Bruce Jenkins who chose Stewart to start his first game of the series overusing Randy Johnson on short rest and You know that the move didn't exactly pay off right there So what can you tell us about that? Stuart start it really didn't You know I would have thought that if Stewart was pitching Mark Maguire. At anytime that he would have the upper hand. I just think Stewart was the better man. Maguire's a hell of a man but Dave Stewart was sort of a different caliber and well Maguire. Let him up twice. And in the time the in between those home runs Stewart Walked him didn't want any part of him. So that's my obsession with Dave Stewart. Ardley workout out and it's now vanished but somehow we still win the game. Yeah ammunition to the to the great offense. I mean both of these teams. Look I mean you look at the offense team and and you almost hate to be pitcher looking at these rosters You know this is one of those. You know. Sometimes pitchers won't Watch the other teams adding practice. Certain pitchers over the years would do it just so they could get a feel for what the you know the hitters have in this one if I were a pitcher in this series whether I was strasburger steward or Walter Johnson. Whatever I I'd be cowering in the shower having a beer I mean I it just it. Just t top line all the way round. Yeah I you know I if I were at the park in any capacity I wouldn't miss any moments of any of either team's batting practice. You mentioned Ted Williams sickness. Tony Gwynn George Brad. All the different approaches. You know bonds just You know Jimmy rollins anybody Keith Hernandez So it's an here comes Harry. Hyland look at a four hundred hitter from nineteen twenty three. So yeah. It's that sort of thing and and you know to say that Stewart was a disgrace. Just can't say that about anybody who doesn't succeed in this series. No and you know Randy. Johnson gave up five runs when he had an eleven. Nothing lead in in Game One Garrett Cole who's fantastic fantastic pitcher Really having trouble in in this series so Yeah you can't hold your head down in fact a knowing what offenses you have If you just keep the team in the game away day Stewart did that you're gonNA have a chance to to pitch them to a help them get to a victory So we. This was our first really game of this series where it was a comeback? I mean this has been a series of Teams taking the home team's taking an early lead and You know just sort of writing it on onto win so This was a different kind of game and it started the same way yet. A two run homer by Mark Maguire in the first inning than Eddie Eddie Mathews In the third Australia two run homer gave the so callous a four to one lead and if the game said on true to form that might have been in in so it would be a marching towards the victory to give them a to split in the series the northern Californians needed a jolt to get back into the game And Ricky Henderson gave them that with a two run homer in the cut. The lead to four three against Stephen Strasburg So it was anybody's game. At that point we moved to the bottom of the fifth. Dave Stewart is on the mound Ted Williams on first base after a walk. Nothing surprising there up steps Mark Maguire. Who already has a two run homer in the game? And here's John Miller to tell us what happened so here. They are again matched up. These old teammates Dave Stewart and big. Mac McGuire already took indeed with two run homer in the first inning in this game. It's tour walk in the next time. Ted Williams at I four to three southern California leading and STU delivers Maguire blast one deep in the right center field. This has a chance way back there and long gone six three southern California second home run of the game for mark. Maguire Gins gave stool now. It's four three ball game and this is kind of a slug fest And I I would imagine that as a manager in a four three game this early in a game yet. Little nervous that This thing could get out of hand. Reuss well I am totally nervous. I'm waiting for for Ted Williams to explode waiting for Ralph Kiner to come off the bench in in in the nineteen fifties when he was the greatest power hitter the National League and I was That was pretty much nervous the whole time and I know Houston was to looking at the top of my order not to mention some of the guys coming off the bench so You know there are times where Houston. I just sort of marveled at the the situation that was in Toronto bus bonds coming up. They're down four with a chance of a slam to tie it. And the way this game ended so That's that was a big part of it. Just sort of the magnificence of the matchups well Speaking of magnificence watching Ricky Henderson get into that Crouch and explode on the baseball The power that Ye generated Was Behold and the your team the northern. Californians really needed him to do just that it's the seventh inning now and it northern California is now six four and Houston Mitchell manager. The so cal he turned to Garrett Cole which was a gutsy move because a coal was not good in game. One he gave up five runs in relief of Their starter who was Don Drysdale And so a couple of names. We haven't really heard in this series so far. Willie McGee Jimmy Rollins to great guys from the East Bay. They put runners on first and third get on base with singles That brings Ricky Henderson to the play to on in a two run game. John Miller tells us what happened to Menon Garrett Cole in a tight spot here. Top of the seven and six to four lead for southern California Ricky Henderson with lots of speed out there. Willie McGee had second Jimmy Rollins. At first and of course ricky as fast as anybody at the plate. Here's coal trying to settle in. And he throws ricky swings and he lines down the line. It is a fair ball. It will richocheting all the way into the right field corner. Mcgee races around Third Hill scored. Easily rollins racing around third. He's heading home and he will score the throw heading toward third Henderson with a safe. A two run triple for Ricky Henderson and that has tied the game at six. All right. It's now a tie game Joe. Dimaggio comes up and of course you know Joe Dimaggio was one of the great contact hitters of all time only needed to do was get a ball into the outfield and To get ricky home and he did and now at seven to sixty cows and At that point you must've been. You must have been thrilled because I mean there really had not been any kind of shifts in momentum's game right now there hadn't and Joe Maggio hadn't done much in the series but there's something about him you don't just say well. I'M GONNA sit you down I. It's a tough one some people. Yeah but I wasn't going to do that. And here. He finally comes through with a big sacked. Fly Right and certainly no surprise that you did that. But it's just. My team felt a little more complete their. Now we've got the lead and What are we going to do with it? Well you're gonNA hopefully which got a seven six lead in this series as offensive as it had been. You know. Wouldn't seem to save so you turn to Dennis Eckersley which Tony Larussa did Just all the time and with complete faith that he was going to get the job done except for that one game in the world series in nineteen eighty eight. He was on to save the seven six lead that Joe Dimaggio provided with sacked. Fly and with two outs. In the night we had a match up. That really defines what this series is about. You have one of the Games. Great closers against the best pure jeter. Who Ever played the game? Ted Williams to outs nobody on John Miller last of the ninth inning California. The seventy six lead and Dennis Eckersley chew down and nobody on trying to wrap it up with two strikeouts to Ted Williams. Hey does anybody remember the name? Kurt Gibson anybody thinking about discreet repeating itself here and a big game act with a true strikeout trying to make sure that that does not happen. Piece ask Eckersley to the plate and he struck out swinging. The ball game is over and Northern California. Now has a three games to one lead in the series beating Southern California seventy six and heading now to Ted Williams Hometown San Diego for game five tomorrow and there. You have it a seven six victory northern California's lead in the series. And this is GonNa be a tough one for the so cal. So yeah you know. I'm I'm feeling just awfully good about this knowing that we're gonNA come back home If we need to for the last six and seven in Oakland and San Francisco and Try Not to get Sound too cocky with the with the press afterward you know because I have so much respect but the thing that Eckersley would strike out Ted Williams not just get him out would strike him out to end the game just feeling like our team is a little bit overwhelming for them. Yeah and in really what you should have done was invited some of the reporters into the room who wrote stories doubting your ability to win this series and just by moon them or something like that. I mean that really would be a a classic managerial move. But you're too classy for that. Well they're they're quiet for now. I just hope that continues. Yeah like you said Game five would. This'll be the last game that will be played in southern California. It's going to shift to Petco Park. And we're also were shifting out to Ted Williams hometown. So I'm sure he's going to be he's going to be really up for it Interesting pitching matchup Who the hardest? Throwers who ever played the game. You got game one winner Randy Johnson. He's GonNa be pitching for the series championship for the knockouts on. He's going to be going on normal. Rest so you've managed this very well. So are notwithstanding Dave Stewart. Getting roughed up a little bit In in this game but You're going to have a Randy Johnson on normal risks and he's going to go against game two loser Walter Johnson. Who's pitching short rest? And I mean. That's what pitchers did in nineteen thirteen. So I don't think you can go into this game assuming that You know Walter. Johnson is his arm is GonNa fly off just because he's pitching short rest. I mean this is really long restaurant. Isn't it yeah it really is? I mean you know. We don't have the off days. Which is why pitchers routinely worked on three days rest with the travel and the world series. You Pitch Games one four and seven. I'm I'm kind of keeping that. That thought the two of US managers here the go with a three man. It's it's it's it's two days on the calendar but in reality if it were a real world series it would be. You'd be working on three days rest. We're just going with the three man rotation thought You know keep that old style which that was the case in world series for a million years and you know a lot of guys did come back on literally on two days. Rest Mickey Low. It'S GROVER CLEVELAND. Alexander Sandy Colfax. It actually happened quite a bit. Nate Lubar debt so We'll we'll just see how this goes. Okay and Walter. Johnson's are they used to have two men rotations in the world series so This will not be unusual for him. So thank you again. Reuss Jenkins the manager of the Northern California team in this golden greats world series. We'll talk to you After game five you might champagne on your head. You might not so good luck in the game San Diego every. Thank you for listening. Each sure to subscribe to the giants splash for as plus podcast. You can hear future recaps from this golden greats world series.
193 | Dear Diary
"Welcomed Aaron McKie's cabinet of curiosities production of iheartradio and grim and mild our world is full of the unexplainable and if history is an open book all of these amazing tales right there on display just waiting for us to explore welcome to the. Cabinet of Curiosities Journal is a sacred thing. It holds our deepest darkest secrets. It doesn't judge us. It doesn't betray our trust. And it doesn't hold a grudge a journal or a diary can be our best friend as long as it doesn't fall into the wrong hands that is during the Nineteen Fifties Norma's husband had encouraged her to keep a diary of her own. She was a bit of a social butterfly often attending lavish parties and meeting. Fun and interesting people. He thought it would be good to save those stories for posterity. Norma started writing down her encounters except unlike most people who kept their private thoughts hidden from the rest of the world. Norma had no qualms about sharing her as with almost everyone. She met a close friend of hers named Robert Claim to have seen the diary for himself. He wrote about his time with Norma and the things she'd allegedly written about unfortunately days after he'd caught a glimpse of its she died. Ever since then the circumstances surrounding her death have been discussed and debated. Was it an accident or was it? Foul play Robert wanted to learn more and he thought the diary would have been a great place to start but it was gone. It had been full of anecdotes about the people in her. Inner Circle politicians athletes and celebrities of time had all graced. Its pages some more than once. In fact rumor had it that her dealings with a pair of brothers were what did her in and the diary the CIA made. Sure no one ever saw it again. The normal I'm referring to is none other than Norma Jeane Mortenson Aka Marilyn Monroe Maryland's book of secrets was known as her diary and between its covers was a lifetime's worth of trouble for both its author and the men in her life. Her husband the legendary baseball player. Joe Dimaggio had suggested she start the diary as a way to remember all the amazing actors she worked with in Hollywood. You never expected her to record state secrets in it though. Monroe had been involved with President. John F Kennedy but rumors started to circulate that his brother Robert was also tied to the star. According to certain reports both men had decided to cut ties with her and she threatened to go public with their affairs. Of course they couldn't let that happen on top of that. Monroe had recorded details about a White House plot to assassinate Cuban dictator Fidel Castro which she learned about from JFK himself the Kennedys though were only the tip of the iceberg in the days and weeks leading up to her death monroe was being monitored by the CIA the FBI and even the mob had all tapped her phone lines and bugged her house in an effort to learn what she knew. But the key details or in her diary including State Secrets Pillow talk and a lot of information that could have put the country jeopardy had it ever gotten out mobster Sam. Giancana saw the diary as a way to blackmail. Jfk and his brother Robert. Some people thought he had killed Maryland road just to get it others still held to the idea that it had been Robert Kennedy. Who gave her the drugs that inevitably took her? Life is e Peter. Lawford of RATPAC fame had planned on visiting Monroe along with Kennedy. The day she died they were going to have her fake suicide to get back in the news. Which would have enticed twentieth century Fox to Rehire her except something went wrong the FBI knew about it. They'd been listening the whole time. By the time the authorities showed up to investigate her death. The diary was gone so the natural question is who took it. Did Robert Kennedy take the diary? It's possible it's also possible that the CIA finally got a hold of it and burned it to a race. Any potential threats to national security much like the story surrounding Monroe's death. We may never know the truth about the red diary. Any proof went up in smoke a long time ago. mascots aren't just limited to high schools and colleges towns and cities. All over. The world have claimed fun and fascinating creatures as their animal representatives in a town in New Zealand for example sheep that had disappeared for six years was found hiding in a cave. It's wool had grown so thick and mangy the wiling animal had picked up the nickname. Shrek Shrek was eventually caught and sheared on live television. Sixty pounds of wool were auctioned off to raise money for local charities and Shrek became the town's unofficial mascots but not all animals get such a warm exciting welcome though in one town in Wisconsin. A certain beast has been both honored and feared for over one hundred twenty five years. The town of rhinelander Wisconsin had grown since a new railroad had turned it into a bustling hub of industry in eighteen. Eighty two ten years later lumberjacks in the area started telling stories about a strange creature prowling the north woods. It had the head of a frog with horns coming out the side. It also bore the face of an elephant short stubby legs with enormous claws. The back of a dinosaur in a long spear like tail called it. The Hodak it's diet was made up of snakes. Turtles Fish and the occasional white bulldog though few heads spotted it up till then it was Eugene Shepherd who was credited with its discovery shepherd and a posse of local hunters band together and headed into the woods armed with poison water. They tried unsuccessfully to take down the creature. Whatever poison they'd mixed together had it worked seems so they turned to the next best thing. Dynamites as you'd imagine that did the trick. The tag was destroyed. The Wisconsin Woods. Were quiet for the next few years until shepherd showed up again this time claiming to have captured alive. Hodak. He hadn't done it alone though. Instead of hunters shepherd took a few bear wrestler with him for assistance. They poured chloroform over the end of a long pole and stuck inside the opening of a cave. Where the tag was believed to be hiding the fumes. Filled the cave overpowering the tag until it collapsed shepherd and the wrestlers dragged it out and put it in a cage to be toured throughout the state. And the Ho- Dag was a gruesome looking creature. And it knew it to it often cried about. It's terrible appearance. And it's rotten smell which had been described as that of dead buzzards and Skunks Shepherd visited county fairs where he invited spectators into his tent to see it for themselves. Nevertheless they approach the cage. In the whole Dag would growl or lunge at them sending them screaming back into the crowd. When he wasn't on tour he allow people to see the Hodak at his home where it would inevitably illicit the same result news of the creatures spread to the local newspapers before winding around Wisconsin. And eventually the rest of the country when representatives from the Smithsonian Institution in Washington. Dc paid shepherd a visits the rhinelander native knew the JIG was up. It was time to tell the truth. The Hodak he'd taken to county fairs and displayed in his house hadn't been caught in the woods it had been made fabricated out of wood and leather. He hooked it up to wires which he would pull to make the creature move however just because one tag was fake. It mean that it had an existed at all at least not to shepherds fellow rhinelanders years later. The town adopted the Hodak as its official mascot. And so did the local high school the story is about the mythical beast still circulate. Today anytime officious stolen off. The end of someone's line or a golf ball goes missing. Rhinelanders claim. It was the work of the Hodak creature whose legend has taken on a life of its own. I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour. The cabinet of curiosities subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Or learn more about the show by visiting curiosities. Podcast DOT COM. The show was created by me. Aaron McKie in partnership with how stuff works. I make another award. Winning show called. 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Scott Hamilton, Pickleball in Jail, Pete Rose's Trip To Vietnam
"This is only a game. I'm carrying given reporter. Alice Coke has known figure Skater Scott Hamilton since they were kids. They're both from the Midwest I they both grew up in ice rinks and they were both Olympians. Scott has an Olympic gold medal. Alice says she was just happy to make the team. Here's Alice when I ask Scott Hamilton to introduce himself. There was no mention of his Olympic. Pick glory as usual Scott was his humble self deprecating self. Tell me who you are and what you do. That's complicated. I know who I am. My name is Scott Hat scovill Hamilton and why did skating for a long time and now I'm doing a lot more volunteer work in cancer fundraising Skating Academy and <hes>. I've got four kids so my dad so that's what I do that a lot. It's more than enough figure. Skaters tend to be physically smaller than most winter Olympic Athletes Scott was especially small when he laced up his first pair of skates when and how did gear parents realised something might be wrong. I was always small but it became obvious that I wasn't growing very well and then it became obvious that I wasn't growing at all and then it became obvious that I was showing some signs of stress and so for about four years I was in and out of hospitals and <hes> they couldn't come up with a diagnosis Scott wasn't growing and food didn't help so as doctors turned to something unconventional my supplement back then and they didn't know what they were doing. They're just trying to keep me alive. Was this liquid that was just really nutritious but it was actually tasted like chalk and I hated it and so pretty soon I became sort of a pathological liar and very manipulative and I would say that I was going to drink it in the bathroom and I would dump it out every single time and once I got caught. My Mom caught me dumping it out and I basically told her. I wasn't going to drink it anymore anymore. Because it was awful and we came up with a compromise of putting a tube up through my nose down my esophagus and I was fed through the nose tube so I never had to taste that junk again and it was the perfect compromise compromised the best compromise so I always knew that you know I was different than all the other kids just because of my height and my you know just sort of the way that I grew up mostly in hospitals after seeking the opinion of a number of doctors Scott saw specialist at Boston Children's Hospital Asia's said I can't diagnosis he said go home. You just go home. Take him off. All the restrictive diets keep them on the supplement and live normal life Scott Scott wouldn't get a real diagnosis until several decades later and more major health scares but with the doctor's advice and hand Scott's mom and dad took their nine year old son to the brand new ice facility at Bowling Green State University. I walk again. Everybody's looking at this nose to coming out and they're just looking at me like gross. That's like well. This is me I say so. What was it like skating for the first time for everybody else right you get into some rental skates and they don't fit right? They don't feel good. They don't really like they're wobbly and you know you're hanging onto the wall and then after a while you know you're able to get around without touching the wall and then pretty soon you're able to get around pretty good and I realized in that process of getting better that I found something I could do as well as the well kids and then I found I could do something as well as the best athletes in my grade in and it was really powerful powerful because it was the first ever taste of self esteem I never felt good about myself until that Scott would later come to believe skating saved his life but at this point he was just a kid having fun on the ice but it was is one of those things where I started to grow and I started to develop again and I started getting veteran so my parents were okay. We found something that works by accident mind you but we found something that works and <hes> we're just GonNa Stick Dick with this. The expensive figure skating put a drain on the family's finances but Scott's mother found a way to pay for the coaching the skates and the ice time you know she was a strong lady you know she was five foot and a quarter as she. It's tell people when you're that small you WANNA like at every quarter inch right I get that Oh man she sacrificed everything for me and my brothers and sisters. She never really bought herself any clothes. She was the person <hes> on this world that I loved more than any other and I just <hes> you know I just adored her. Scott was just a teenager when his mother was diagnosed with breast cancer her chemotherapy descriptions were hilarious. You know she'd say Oh. This chemotherapy is wonderful. I finally found a way to lose all this weight. I like chemotherapy. I wanted to quit smoking all these years and now I have no desire and she said I love Chemo. I've always hated my hair these wigs or so much easier so she always made it okay. Dorothy Hamilton passed away in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven and when you're eighteen years old you don't have anything to compare this life event to and it's devastating you know so I I kind of had to go for a walk in my backyard in that walk. I kinda came to sort of a game plan of taking her with me. Wherever I went you know she always wanted me to be a really good skater and she always thought that you know someday? I'd go to the Olympics and all that junk and it's like yeah really based on what you know my last last place finish or really in the last competition she saw me scared and I was an epoch disaster. I came in ninth nationals and then after that I just had to get to work and if I didn't feel like showing up for a session I did it because I wanted to honor her Scott moved to Denver Colorado to train with renowned coach Don laws. He found a sponsor to take care of everything from training expenses to his housing. His skating took off from there Scott was chosen to carry the flag for team U._S._A.. At the one one thousand nine hundred eighty Olympic opening ceremony in Lake Placid New York he finished fifth and then about I guess a month later the top three guys all retired so all of a sudden like I was ranked second in the world so for the next for years I never really lost. I never lost quite Scott. Hamilton won three consecutive world championships in Nineteen eighty-four. He took home an Olympic gold medal. Nobody could stop him. It is now in standing new Olympic podium after four years of of really just winning every competition. It was Kinda like what in the world just happened and you feel Oh really good that had a dream that you never thought to dream has come true and I just I felt bad that my mom wasn't there to see it but she was really the main reason that it happened. Scott returned home to a hero's welcome in Denver after a ticker tape parade with a freshly minted gold medal around his neck Scott was invited to a private meeting with Governor Richard Lamm you know. I usually with politicians. It's a photo op at it's this and it's that and <hes> when I arrived in his office it was just he and me and I thought this is really weird. I I don't know what to make of this and he said I just really wanted to talk to you and give you some advice and he said there's this thing called the hometown hero syndrome and basically you can look at it as if you know let's say you're the quarterback for the High School Football Team and you threw a bomb to win the state championship at the end of the game and they carry you off the field on their shoulders. You kind of feel like the rest of your life should be that way right and picture and all this and he goes you just I lived through an extraordinary period of your life but I really want you to enjoy every moment with the true understanding that your life isn't always going to be this way and in that moment and I realized that he was giving me an extraordinary gift is like really somebody thinks enough of another human being to kind of almost arm them for kind of the inevitability of next next right Scott went onto create stars on ice tour that brought together the best gators in the world they performed for huge audiences in major cities. It became an amazingly successful business. Venture Scott was the star and also so the bus but he wasn't very happy he felt stressed all the time and I realized that life was out of balance in I had such bad abdominal pain that fifty cities in no sixty city tour. I went into an emergency room in Peoria Illinois because it was about a block from the hotel just to get you know <hes> some ulcer medicine or whatever was going on. I just you know I never thought of anything besides stress related symptoms and and the doctor Victor just said there's a mass and <hes> I kind of chuckled in the beginning is what's so funny and I just well you know honestly nobody's ever used the word mass in description me before and he <hes> he said no no. It's you take this thing seriously and I was like why why and I just realized it was like twenty years almost to the month that I lost my mom to cancer and now I'm being diagnosed with cancer. At thirty eight years. Old Scott started his treatment for testicular cancer answer at the Cleveland Clinic. He went through months of chemotherapy. He says sometimes he look in the mirror and hate what he saw but he took on his cancer battle with the kind of attitude he learned from his mother. You know she always found a way to make something difficult okay and in that she she armed me. Would that same thing it's I was able to create an environment of of levity my nurse basically treatment me. I can eight year old. You know I had like Scooby Doo and Spongebob bandaids and she decorated my chemo bags and she she really she treated me like a pediatric patient and it was really fun Scott Healthy and return to life on the ice and in the broadcast booth breath he got married and became a father life was good until the fall of two thousand four. I was symptomatic and so they did some blood work and they found that I had like trace amounts of testosterone in my bloodstream knows like well you know it's probably an after effect of your chemo and your cancer. It's like no I don't. I don't think that's it like well. You know you're older. Now I go now. I don't think that's it and so I finally described my symptoms enough in detail where they put me in forehead scan. I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. They I knew I was going to be dealing with this thing immediately if not sooner but my wife was arriving that day and so <hes> I went back to the hotel and they were just pulling up to the front of the hotel and she goes what they say ghat say up in the room and so we kind of awkward sort of quiet riot in the elevator you know and then up into the room and she goes what's going on and I mean how do you how do you tell your wife that you know you're up against it again right and I just said I I have a brain tumor and she without even like one beat <hes> passing <hes> She just grabbed both my hands and she started to pray and it was the the single most powerful moment in my life because I felt the calm I felt the power of that moment. I felt the the clarity of that moment. You know it just was this awakening different kind awakening where now I knew I was going to be okay. No matter what I knew I was going to be okay. Scott was ready to tackle the brain tumor but first doctors had to take a biopsy which is digging a hole in the top of my skull and taking a biopsy needle through my brain where a lot of really super bad things could have happened and I remember. They told me I could lose speech memory motor function Blah Blah Blah do this procedure. I woke up at ten twenty. Yeah I knew who I was where I was while I was there and then I just sort of like leaned over limit test like oh I can speak okay. I guess the surgery went okay and then the doctor came in smiling and my wife Tracy came in smiling and I go I think we know what it is and I go. What is it and they go cranial fringe Elma? It's like what's a lunatic fringe Yoma. I have no idea what you're talking about so they gave my wife some literature on the brain tumor and she read it and she said Said Oh wow this is this cranial fringe Yomas our brain tumors. A child is born with that usually show themselves due to a lack of growth and development and I was like whoa that that is crazy so it's like a joke now. It's like I guess if you live long enough. All questions will be answered and so that was my childhood illness. Scott says he's grateful that doctors didn't discover the tumor humor when he was a kid. He says he had gotten a craniotomy. Fifty years ago. His life would have looked very different in two thousand ten Scott had a second brain surgery to prevent the recurrence of the benign tumor in two thousand sixteen. He learned it had returned. The doctors are giving me all the different scenarios we could do surgery again we could do <hes>. There's a medical thing that will shrink it and keep it at bay here. The side effects and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and all I felt and it was almost like a voice in my head said get strong and I was like okay. I don't know what this means. I don't know what's going on but I I know I am supposed to get strong and the doctor said so. How would you like to proceed indeed and I say I don't you know since you caught this thing on a general scan without symptoms? We're just GONNA keep an eye on it. My Gut says keep an eye on it. Instead Surgery Scott decided to make some dietary and lifestyle changes he gave up red meat and sugar and I went back a few months later for another skin and it hadn't grown and that was the best news that they could possibly give me until the next scan where I went back and it shrunk without treatment and they couldn't figure that out and then I went back in shrunk again and it was all they all. They said there was whatever you're doing being keep doing it. You Know Scott now lives in Tennessee with his wife Tracy and four children. He stays close to the ice with his skating school and dedicates a lot of his time to fundraising for cancer research. Now I look in the mirror and I see. All the scars from all the different injuries and surgeries and all the other things and and I look at them differently than I thought I would. I you know normally look at scars his like disfigurements and I look at them as as you know sort of badges of honor you know it's like that skin is tougher than it's ever been and it will never be hurt the same way it was before the story came from reporter Alex Cook Scott Hamilton's. Most recent book is titled Finished First Winning Changes. Everything Roger Belair teaches the game of pickle ball in imprisons. I know one situation were wanting. It may screamed at another. I beat the hell out of you but if I did I couldn't play pickle ball well. How wonderful is that? That story is coming up on only a game from N._p._R.. 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You should know we're going to start this week with Kansas City chiefs wide receiver tyreek Hill who has not been suspended despite this audio released back in April of hill and his ex fiancee arguing about their three year old son he's terrified of you and can you say that he respects you but it's not it's not respect its terrified. He is TERI terrified of two. I'm joined by the Wall Street. Journal's Rachel Bachman and The Washington Post Jerry brewer welcome back talked about the view great to be here. Karen bakes having Jerry. You're up first wow the N._F._l.. Has Long had an issue with the violence of his athletes and particularly violence toward women and in this case you're you're talking in about an allegation of child abuse by tyreek Hill one of the best players in the N._F._l.. And his speed makes Kansas City which may be the favourite to win the super bowl dynamic electric it gives them an edge but but keeping with the N._F._L.'s inconsistent policies on player conduct <hes> they've decided not to suspend them because they don't have enough evidence. The question is are they doing the fair thing. Are they copying out well okay. This is what I don't understand. Maybe Jerry can help me out here N._F._l.. Contracts generally are not guaranteed Ryan and so players can be cut for not returning their tray at the cafeteria or having less zip on their long snaps or something thing so it sort of boggles my mind that when there's an allegation of domestic violence or abuse against children all of a sudden we have C._S._i.. Miami and the N._F._l.. And the teams are saying well. We don't have enough evidence and you know this is not the Supreme Court. You have a lot of latitude about what you can do with players so why not take a strong stand here well Jerry. I'm GonNa let you speak to that. I because you make the point in your column this week that if the chiefs didn't pick up hell someone else would have frye right. Yes <hes> unfortunately a lot of N._F._l.. Teams use this as a market inefficiency as a matter of fact tyreek. Hill is a one time convicted of domestic abuse. The Kansas City chiefs still bill drafted him in the fifth round because they felt like we were getting a first or second round talent in the fifth round so they use that as a competitive advantage yeah at this point. I've gotten past being surprised that teams keep hiring hiring these guys because it's happened so many times I am a little surprised by how quickly journalists and fans seem to have moved on from that audio from Tyreek Hill like let's face it when movie Fan said Ed we're not gonNA watch movies with sexual predators in them. Hollywood stopped hiring actors who were sexual predators at least for now but the same thing hasn't happened in the N._F._l.. There hasn't been a groundswell of chiefs season ticket holder saying that they'll give up their tickets. Their team continues to play a guy who may or may not have broken his three year olds arm Jerry. Is that what it's going to take for the N._F._l.. To come up with some sort of consistent response to this I think as much as people challenge authority you fall in line with accepted behavior by and large football is the number one sport in America by long shot and if you have a commissioner that saying we are concerned about this but not to the level that we are going to fundamentally change change the way we operate in the League that sends a message to your fans that it's okay to resume business as usual and not care about this issue and that is the great concern all right Rachel Europe okay well and Happier News <hes> the the U._S.. Women's soccer team is back in the U._S.. Every player on that team plays in the National Women's Soccer League which is the current pro league seven season under its belt. The games with returning players have set some attendance. His Records Portland had twenty two thousand. It's game on Wednesday night <hes> but there is a cautionary tale. Pass titles have also helped previous professional women's soccer leagues in the U._S.. But inevitably the crowds have sort of fallen off from there in in fact two previous leagues have folded and so my question to you guys is who is responsible this time for making sure this league lasts is at the players is league management which is supported by the U._S.. Soccer Federation is it the media which has not historically given a lot of coverage to pro women's soccer or is it the fans who you know can can vote with their pocketbooks. I think it's all of the above speaking about it from a media perspective you know this was the story in sports for two weeks and then they come back and you get kind of a week of celebration and everybody kind of forgets about it. I do think as these players go back to their teams in the league that it warrants a little better coverage however I think the League League has to be better about the way that it promotes itself and in general we have to give it time. It's going to take at least twenty five years to figure out whether a leak and Amazon. It's going to take at least fifty years before a league really gets so the point in which is starting to thrive so we have to keep that in mind. I hadn't thought of it in those terms but certainly that's how long it took for the N._F._l.. And all those other leagues to make it really work. We are seeing women's soccer. Make big strides in popularity in Europe. Twenty thousand people attended the Champions League final in Hungary this year but those advances are really being made with the support of their men sides here in the U._S.. It's not not like there's a huge surplus of money that the M._l._S. can really share so. I wonder if there is an investment to be made into women's soccer in this country. Where does the money come from well? I think what you're talking about has happened happened in small doses here and there I mean Portland for instance is the absolute gold standard of women's soccer and I think it's no coincidence that it also has a very robust <hes>. M._l._S. team in the Portland Timbers so let's look at the rest of M._l._S. Amine Atlanta certainly <hes> I. I think they would have a good chance to at a women's side and already have a big fan base built in because <hes> the men's team is so popular so I think that if really ambitious owners <hes> look at opportunities like that they could really grow their portfolios folios cool all right so I want to take us all the way to South Korea and the swimming World Championships Fina the sport's governing body has issued warnings to Australia's Mac Horton and Britain's Duncan Scott for refusing to share the podium with Chinese swimmer soon young soon was suspended in two thousand fourteen for taking banned heart medication more recently. He's accused of making testers wait outside his home for more than an hour refusing to give a urine Marin sample and then he or probably his bodyguard apparently smashed the blood sample so it could not be tested. The case is being appealed and soon is allowed to compete in the meantime and the other athletes are making ensure that everyone remembers what soon is accused of doing U._S._A.. Today's Nancy Armor calls it a rebellion Bob Bowman best known for coaching Michael Phelps. All those years says quote win prominent athletes speak up. That's it's win. Real change can happen Rachel. What do you make of all this well? I have to say these women world championships are the most dramatic I can recall in recent memory but this is really just an extension of a trend. We're seeing I think across boards where athletes athletes are really speaking out and they're frustrated at the lack of true punishment <hes> after doping violations. There's a group called Global Athlete that was founded in the past year really as a reaction to a lack of sanctions after the twenty fourteen Russian doping thank scandal and in Sochi. I think it's actually a good sign that you're seeing athletes. <hes> sometimes make some noise and be disruptive because they feel like hey if we don't have basic fairness and our sports and what do we have. You know what what becomes of us yet. There's this this sort of unwritten thing in sports in which I it goes back to refereeing. If you aren't going to control the game the players are going to take matters into their own hands to control it. I do however worry at times times in in these issues if there is not a bid of xenophobia that can take place in terms of you know oh Chinese swimmers always do this so we're going to show them up. That's always a concern to me. However I think for the most part that these swimmers are just they're not out of line and I think they're motivated by the fact that they want better leadership and a fair pool essentially my guess for this week's addition of three stories you should know have been the Wall Street Journal's Rachel Bachman and the Washington Post's Jerry Brewer? Thanks to both of you thank you Karen Bass Roger Belair player is a seventy two year old from Edmonds Washington in two thousand eleven. He Fell in love with a sport called pickle ball. You know here was a sport was very easy to learn is easy on the joints is great. Exercise is incredibly social. Somebody once said is more social sports since skinny dipping and most importantly is fun in pickle ball teams have to face off on an undersized tennis court and hit a wiffle ball with oversized ping pong paddles. Almost everybody can play this from nine years old up to I played with people over ninety years old Roger Travels the country teaching the sport at retirement homes high end destination spas and inside jails and prisons only NIA GAMES NICO IMAC has the story Roger Belair wasn't always focus on criminal justice reform but when he was watching sixty minutes segment about Cook County jail in Chicago the county sheriff. Tom Dart says the jail has become a dumping ground for the poor and mentally ill if they're going to make it so that I am going to be the largest mental health provider. We're going to be the best ones we're going to treat as a patient why they're here. We are going to think differently. I thought to myself you know this'll be terrific. Sport that I love introduced inside the prison system it will give the people an opportunity to get some exercise and also learn life skills like learning from mistakes thinking about consequences being in a good teammate not to mention the most popular sport on the Inside Is basketball but you have young aggressive men and as you can imagine once they get on the court. There's a lot of injuries. There's some people that even want eliminate basketball from from been being played on the inside Roger. Pickle ball was the perfect alternative so in two thousand seventeen he decided to write a letter to Cook County America's largest jail asking the teach pickle ball to the detainees his family. We thought he was delusional. They said this time you've lost it. You've lost before but this time it's really over the top and not only that but you can go ahead and you can write <hes> Sheriff Dart a letter but don't even expect a report boy Roger wrote the letter anyway he says Sheriff Tom Dart had never heard of pickle ball but over dinner that night mentioned it to his eight year old daughter and she said something like Oh Dad. You're so out of it. I'll tell you about pickle ball a few few weeks. Later Roger was inside the walls of Cook County. It was the first time I've ever been in prison and it's very unsettling. Prisons are very tough on the inside. You know it's not a friendly environment. There's no after people are in there for serious crimes. I was particularly nervous. Once I stood up in front of the men and started telling them what the game was wasn't getting much of a positive reaction. I spoke to a thirty four year-old detainee at Cook County who is charged with murder. He tells me how pickle ball hoops give them something. Look forward to how it takes the stress away and how it makes them want to do better. Roger doesn't shy away from the reality that he works with violent men accused of unsettling crimes but that's what drives his work. If guys don't behave they can't play I. I know one situation were winning. It may screamed at another. I beat the hell out of you but if I did I couldn't play pickle ball well. How wonderful is that? I know another situation where two guys were out on the court. They gave each other high fives and then realize that they belong to opposite gangs after his success at Cook County Roger was invited to teach pickle bought rikers island in Washington state penitentiary. He's far from a bleeding heart but he understands the reality that ninety five percent of inmates will be released at some point <music>. They'RE GONNA be out on our freeways are going to be in our shopping. Malls are going to be in <hes> parks. Where kids are playing? We can make them better. People on Inside Is GonNa make a safer for all of us once. They're on the outside Roger plans to continue. Can you traveling the country teaching the game. He loves one correctional institution that a time. I don't know how far this is gonna go but Johnny appleseed started one apple and if I can help the world become a better place by making it safer favor for all of this. That's exactly what I WANNA do. That story came from only a Games Nico E. Mack. We'd like to thank the Cook County leadership for their help with this story. We first heard about Roger Belair in an an article written by Scott gleason for U._S._A.. Today we'll have a link at only a game that Moore in nineteen sixty seven pete rose was asked by someone in the U._S.. State Department to go on a U._S._O.. A tour of Vietnam at first he refused then he said would Joe Dimaggio's gone and I said sign me up that's coming up and remember to follow us on facebook and twitter at only game and he are. The U._S. Women's soccer team. Just went its Fourth World Cup and it has been way more successful than the men's team yet. The women say they are paid less than half of what the male soccer players are and now they're suing for equal pay find out more about this on on the indicator from N._p._R.. I'm Karen Given next week on only game the pro video Gamer who says N._B._A.. Two K. 's saved his life but now Charlie Pierce here with the week's News Hi Charlie a Hi Karen I'm really glad had I was not watching the game between the raise the red sox on Wednesday afternoon because if I had been watching I'm quite sure I would've been bored and maybe a little bit angry. How about you <hes> yeah? It's I'm still unclear as to what exactly happened happened here but we had a very long stretch of managers trying to be clever and umpires trying to think which is never a good combination well all told the game was delayed for nearly twenty minutes while the umpire tried to figure out whether rays manager Kevin cash made an illegal substitution the sox finished the game under protest and in the end neither team scored so none of it really mattered anyway. Who Do we blame for all this guy than Kevin cash the Tampa Bay manager sure I think he gets a little bit cute from time to time and Alex Cora's just that way and obviously the empire had no clue what was going on this horrible display of officiating came just a day after reports surfaced that the independent Atlantic League will stick stick with robot empires for the rest of the season of course the computer just calls balls and strikes? It doesn't adjudicate complicated lineup questions but still are you happy to see the robot up sticking around. I'm still terrified of the robot. Let's get to another story that scares me. Even more later on this was inevitable and by the way it's not gonna just be balls strikes. After a while you know that I mean they are gonNA call close plays with them sooner or later because once you let the robots in the robot takeover anybody's ever seen a movie that I just want the first time a pitch goes up in and gets too close to the batter for the robot arm to say danger will Robinson. I would pay money to see that I would. I would pay to go to games case. Zion Williamson has yet to play a single game in the N._B._A.. But he already has a shoe deal reportedly worth at least one hundred million dollars that breaks the record Lebron James set when he signed his rookie shoe deal for eighty seven million in two thousand and three. Are we just looking at inflation here or is it something more. I think it's inflation but I also think it's the media age. Zion Williamson is already a brand. I think it's very Nice Zion to stay with Nike considering that one of issues blew up on him would have signed with anyone but Nike after that seriously I would've signed with like strike right it's N._F._l.. Training Camp Time Charlie Sparta believe already. We're already there which means it's time to hear about all the guys who are holding out but instead. I'd like to talk about a guy who did show up. What do you make of Jacksonville cornerback? Jalen Ramsey's ride to camp. I mean I guess it's an armored car looks at brinks truck doc. It's time to get that money well. It was actually his hype man who said that and I can't help myself. I need to play a clip. The Modern Ramsey had been hoping for a contract extension this year instead he'll be playing out the fourth year of his contract for just three point six three million then the team has a fifth year option then there's the franchise tag. What do you think he'll do to show his displeasure next year or the year after his show up in a Bradley fighting vehicle? Maybe I don't know we are less than one year out from the Tokyo Olympics Charlie which means it's time for various unveilings and I was going to ask you about the Plethora of robots that will be put into use including one that will carry javelins. 's onto the field but instead. I'd like to know what you make of the Olympic medals made from recycled Michael Mobile phones yeah. That's a little bit Chintzy. I think it's very good for the environment probably but as we talked about earlier I'm pretty sanguine about the robot dumps. I think arming new robots is a really bad idea. I'm sitting way up in the seats because I don't know what kind of arms these robots have but we may have an advocate on our side in the t dash H._r.. Three humanoid robot which is going to have what is called remote interactions with athletes. I've had a number of those in my career and finally Charlie Kyrie. Irving has unveiled his news special edition Shoe Line and is it just me or do these new designs seem a little fishy. I yeah we got a little spongebob action going here. The Nike Kyrie X. Spongebob Squarepants Collection was made for a hypothetical trip to Bikini bottom or an I._R._A.. L. Trip to the gym people actually get paid to write this stuff but anyway all the characters there <hes> they each got their own shoe. Yeah Spongebob Says Yellow and red you know they will sell these to a lot of kids. I'm just sorry that they didn't come along when I was a kid so I could have rocky and bowling sneakers. I think those were degrade too early. Pierce joins US each week at this time on only Nia game. Thanks Charlie. Thanks Karen these Thursdays. Pete rose is known as much for his lifetime ban from baseball imposed in nineteen eighty nine as for his brilliant twenty four year playing career rose initially denied allegations that he gambled on Baseball Games while he was manager of the Cincinnati Reds but in two thousand four he publicly admitted to having done it but decades before rose became a cautionary tale he was a military man at first rose didn't see combat up close but that changed in nineteen sixty seven only games. Gary Wallet has the story Peter Edward Rose joined the army reserves in nineteen sixty three after his rookie season with the Cincinnati reds during the Vietnam Tom War it was somewhat common for pro athletes to join the reserves to avoid the draft rose did his basic training at Fort Knox Kentucky One day the twenty two year old was on kitchen patrol and I got a call from Jack Lang in New York. Lang was executive secretary of the Baseball Writers Association of America and he told me I was national league rookie of the year. I was actually waxing the floor of the mess hall. Wow that's happened to any other national league rookie of the year. I doubt it very much a few years later. Rose was a reservist in the four Seventy Eighth Engineer Battalion at Fort Thomas Kentucky right across the river from Cincinnati. He served there along with some guy named bench John and I we've become cooks. We couldn't cook but we've become cooks because you would get off early. We still go the ballpark and playing the Games that were in Cincinnati. If we end become cooks we'd had a state Oh four thirty five o'clock and we missed all the day games now. Can you imagine me cooking you lunch while rose peeled potatoes and tallied hits that would someday total a major league best four thousand two hundred fifty six. He kept a close eye on what was happening thousands of miles away somewhere in this jungle there several hundred north Vietnamese soldiers who could wipe out this little. l'americain unit to the last man in an unguarded moment rose new there was little chance he and his reserve unit would be deployed but late in the nineteen sixty seven baseball season. He got another phone. Call someone from the State Department. I really don't remember his name S._e._A.. What I like to go to Vietnam in my first answer was hell? No there's a war going on there. The State Department wanted rose to go on a U._S._O.. Tour are to help boost troop morale then he said Joe Dimaggio's going and I said do I get to meet. You said You got deliberating for twenty three days and I said sign me up. You didn't need a lot of persuading in that though ought to meet Joe Dimaggio a good enough for Joe Dimaggio has got to be good enough for me. Dimaggio had retired twelve years before rose made the big leagues but rose was obsessed with the Yankees run of world series wins and Joe's fifty fifty six game hitting streak the guy from the State Department said he could talk about baseball with Joe but you Knesset him any questions about Marilyn Monroe. Don't talk about Marilyn Monroe. Don't mention Marilyn Monroe in late October nineteen sixty seven rose flew to San Francisco to meet with the others who'd be visiting the troops in Vietnam the group mad at Dimaggio's fisherman's warf restaurant and then Joe arrived Joe the Maggio when he walked in a room lit up the room lit up everybody Kinda beamed when they were in the presence of Joe Dimaggio by the Sixties Dimaggio had earned a reputation as cranky and aloof up to the general public but I couldn't believe the humbly was how nice he was and what did Joe Tell you about the impending tour Vietnam he just stick with me. Kid you'll be all right after a twenty twenty hour flight to Guam and another long flight to Saigon rose visited a U._S.. Army hospital and then we'll show to Maggio so humble shaking hands with everybody just so friendly to everybody I mean it made me feel good just watching him be nice. Though Soldiers Dimaggio had enlisted in the army in nineteen forty three he never saw combat himself but he knew a bit about what combat soldiers experienced so in Vietnam the soldiers here's where his sole focus he was better off to feel new was on the field. There was nobody better on the field. Jews demeanor was calm and cool as he chatted with G._I.'s who'd suffered horrific injuries but then we went next door to the Viet it Kong hospital where we had <hes> captured soldiers that were getting worked on getting fixed up and it was air conditioned. They hit air conditioner. We didn't I haven't been able to independently confirm that detail detail about the air conditioning but rose says that's the only time he saw Dimaggio upset on the entire trip. He was pissed while they were in Saigon rose says he and Dimaggio also met with two four star Star generals who commanded U._S. forces in Vietnam from nineteen sixty four to nineteen seventy-two William Westmoreland and Creighton Abrams and they were excited about meeting Joe Dimaggio. You know when you got four stars. Is it almost down on their knees. You know you're some special. After a short stay in the relative safety of Saigon the other three headed north rose says he and Dimaggio travelled south to the Mekong Delta and into an extremely hot war zone. You know we spent a week and a half down in the jungle of Vietnam you know intense sweep and bags gunships with every fourth bullet a tracer out the helicopters. You can't sleep because of the mortars going off and you realize there's a war going on there in. It's a mile from where you are Rosen. Dimaggio dressed in fatigues and carried phony I._D.. Cards we were Jesus Jesus G._S. fourteen. I think we were colonels. We had to carry that card in our back pocket saying we were G._S.. fourteens a case we got captured rose says that if he and measured didn't have those is I._D.. Cards and if they'd fallen into enemy hands the Viet Cong would have assumed they were spies and they would have been shot on site is a pleasant thought now in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven pete rose's star was still rising. The soldiers knew him but as far as rose was concerned the U._S._O.. Tour was the joe show they travelled mostly by helicopter. Rose says he mused to himself that if they're chopper went down every story would be about Joe Dimaggio but Joe wasn't afraid or if he was he didn't show it and I stuck right by man for twenty three days. I didn't leave his site. Rose has one day he and Dimaggio arrived arrived in a town called kind neum not long after a fierce firefight and I remember we were walking down the street and her Roy six North Vietnamese soldiers that were killed in the battle and they were wrapped in bamboo. Do they were laying right in the middle of the street. Her feet were hanging out their heads. One hanging out with their feet were and I went up to where they were not touched one of them with my foot and the guy was would've said don't do that. Pete said why not he says because North Vietnamese soldiers they come back for their dead and all six of those guys are booby trapped so when they come back to get him. They'll get blown up but I didn't Yeah No. I'm a rookie of war. I spoke with a Harvard University history professor. He says he's seen references to the booby. Trapping Viet Cong soldiers by G is in literature about Vietnam rose says that being in Vietnam reinforced the feeling that more and more Americans had back home it was going to be hard for us to win at war because first of all you didn't who the hell you're fighting you wonder why are are we so far away from home. What are we fighting for a why we lose fifty eight thousand soldiers after about three weeks of meeting with troops Pete Rose and Joe Dimaggio left the Vietnamese mainland in a Navy fighter jet they landed on the U._S._S. intrepid just off the coast? They flew home from the South China Sea when they're U._S._O.. Tour ended the two went their separate ways rose went back to racking up hits and tearing up Major League base- paths have hi Tommy homes as time has thirty seven Dimaggio went back to being an American legend rose says he occasionally occasionally run into him a charity golf tournaments when that happened he says Joe was always friendly and cordial. Pete Rose Former Army Reservist M._L._B.. Hits leader banished baseball superstar four-star says he's glad he went to Vietnam in nineteen sixty seven. I wouldn't give up a trip for anything just to try to boost the soldiers and the hang around with a great player like show too Macho for twenty three days. Gosh don't get a better net. That story came from only a Games Gary Wallich Pete Rose's new book is titled Play Hungary the making of a baseball player <music> only a game is produced by Martin Kessler in Gary Wallich with help from Nico Mak.
"Sports Talk" Guest Kevin Cook author "Electric October" about the 1947 World Series
"Them to our book talk, talk some vintage baseball now talking about the world series and a great book about the World Series Of one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, seven on the all time, great series. It's called electric October seven world series game six lives in five minutes of fame that lasted forever. We're joined today by the author Kevin Cook on the telephone and Kevin Guitar with you today. In the middle of another electric October, so it's always a good time to be a baseball fan. Yankee game last night I grew up in new. York and I didn't think they'd come back, but what they did so another vintage history of the Yankees last night, right? And it should be an epic series with the with Houston One thing about this season's Yankees is. They can hit home runs with anybody, so you don't know what's GonNa Happen to. strikeouts judge, but he's done. A. True I was really fascinated to to read about the book. I grew up in New York born in Brooklyn, but that was a little bit for my time, but my dad and mom they lived in Brooklyn so. They know new ebbets field well, and I believe. My mother said they actually went to one of those games in one, thousand, nine, forty-seven out to ask her which one she went to, but that really was the first televised world series. Wasn't it forty-seven? Today's viewers would Find it a little hard to follow. Maybe because there was just a stationary camera, the TV screens those days are about the size of a toaster, so the players are install. You're probably seeing it through an appliance store window or in a bar. Because people didn't have TV's. We're still too expensive to have in your home. In most cases so with the stationary camera. A lot of what happened would be Somebody hits the ball, and then all the players run right off the screen. It's a little hard to tell what's going on. and in the sponsorship was interesting, too, but all of these things are coming in the in the postwar years right after World War Two I'll golden age of baseball kicked off by what Joe Dimaggio called the most exciting world series ever. Of course earlier was the first of the Great Jackie. Robinson was in Brooklyn, so you had that going on? And of course, the subway series which New York has had many of those, and that happened as well, and and what you kind of focus on Kevin, which is a little bit interesting. Some of the the names that were involved the two managers, and some of the players that unless you're really Brooklyn. Dodger Fan maybe baseball fans been know a lot about the kind of interesting. How that all work came together back? Then that's true. I think of cookie lava lava had his diehard fans and forty seven, but cookies name is. Not on the tip of baseball, fans, tongues today, even though he's probably better known than algae and Frito or Bill Bevan's or Snuffy, Stern, wise, the other really unlikely stars of the series, one of the things that fascinated me about the ethic forty-seven series was the immortals kind of had to step aside and watch. The mortals takes center stage in in remarkable fashion again and again in in game, four and game six in the. Game and and it. It's interesting to for today's fans I. Think to remember. We're talking about a time. When the entire postseason was the world series, there wasn't here's playoffs yet, so you're only going to get four. To seven games. That's the postseason. It's between teams that have never faced each other most of the time between players who have not faced each other of a fascinating spectacle and. Nothing could have been more exciting than way played out really in forty seven. As we talk today, it's Kober the eleventh twelfth, whatever it is World Service Johnny over. That's true would have been begun the last day of September and and be done with a week this year. Of course we might get a Mr November since game seven. There is one we'll be played on the first of November. Myself kind of being sports testing historian as well you listen to those great old recordings of Red Barber calling the radio call with. Genoa an Frito and you know the great catch out in in left field and Jackie Robinson's courses great play, but that voice red. Barber in New York. He was the voice of Baseball on with Mel Allen, aren't they really was of course. I've listened to both of them. At length and and have to admit a preference for Red Barber, he does sound like the Voice of the Golden Age of baseball to me, and I think some of that has to do with the fact that he was a matter of Vin scully. Who Lines up being you know? I spent some time living in Los Angeles. One of the great treats. That was to be able to listen to Vin, scully. SCULLY call a game. and and barber played an important role in that series in that he called algae and froze miracle catch in game six Dimaggio, it's a rocket to left field and GM Frito a defensive replacement five six, the littlest dodger turns his back on a plate and sprints after it, and he's on the run long enough for barber. Say Back six times back back back back back back. I wind up talking for the book I talked to Chris Berman. Who who was? Listening to he had a record of. Of Great Baseball calls and that was one of them. Chris Berman then stops jeans. The Barbara's called the Jan Fredo catch to his own, Major League Baseball home run call so those. It was I watched A bunch of derbies are very familiar with back back back coming out of Chris Berman's now, but it goes back to Red Barber and Aljian Frito God. Bless Chris Berman. I know he's had a rough time, but boy kind of really ruined that call. Wish! there. People who wished they had not ever heard back And I think Chris is aware of that, but as he said he said. He wasn't a home run. Call. Of course it actually, but he adapted it to one partly. Because if you say back back back back, you can wait and see what happens. had heard Bob Prince calling eight Pittsburgh. Pirates and and prince would often say and look at that when you can kiss it off along every once in a while. Along. About Vince Kelly and he talked about how read, said you not sure look at the outfield, or they'll tell you if it's going to go and watch the outfielder I the ball. That's why he did that. Call Right yes Shannon. So many things you have to Ballpark hollering for a pop up and try to find the ball, and if you watch that outfielder, you're going to know what's happening. Briefly about some of the characters you mentioned the GM Saito and cookie lab ogetto, but the managers Bucky Harris, birdshot. They had interesting careers and you got into that. was that interesting kind of the research on? It was not a lot about them, right? Dairy. Not An awful lot of I mean there. Of course, many many books in in movies about Robinson. And Dimaggio, but not buck heiress, birdshot, and so again. The families were tremendously helpful. It helps me a lot to do with an age of scrapbooks, so if you were a ball player, your family kept a scrapbook in and I. Really Wonder in the future somebody in my position writing a book about this year's playoffs. It's GonNa. Be using might trout's twitter feed or Clayton Kershaw is twitter feed? I guess not drought in this case, but. There, won't be the wealth of information and the families were terrifically helpful Bucky Harris. had been the boy wonder manager of the Washington senators way back in nineteen, twenty four. He's a middle age wonder by by nineteen forty seven and he's going up against Bert shopping who had vowed to his wife that he wouldn't wear a baseball uniform after he retired as a player, so he names the dodgers in a suit and tie. He's still the last manager to do. Do that and I think it was a pretty good idea. Every time I. Watch a ball game it. It looks silly to me that the the heavy set sixty year old manager dressed like he's going to go in and play third base so I like shot into sartorial style. Every other sport hockey coaches lawsuit football. You wear more a sporting close, but not a uniform. Fancy suits, so you're right. It does look odd when when you. Want WanNa, see the knobby knees of the NBA coaches wearing a wearing the. That would look silly. Limited time, but this is kind of an overview. You mentioned the you know. It's post. World War Two everybody was pretty much back from the military, though there were still some serving, but first televised world series that all Kinda congregate together to make this better than maybe people thought it would be I mean it just added more to it. It made a unique story both on and off the field. Fascinating things like the fact that Gillette and Ford sponsored the first telecast, even though they were outbid by Rury for the TV rights, and that's because Baseball Commissioner Happy Chandler. ruled that it would just be unsuitable for a beer to sponsor televise baseball That's certainly one of the things that's changed but not. The whole country was was paying attention to baseball after the war there were no heroes bigger than Dimaggio and Robinson of both. Remarkable leaders of their teams in utterly different ways but to me what? What really with me was the fact that these little known players Devon's Stern Winds Fredo, Alaba Chatto and the managers Had this moment and it's going to be with them the rest of their lives. They're gonNA answer questions about these moments for the rest of their lives, and and that's what how tightly baseball is woven into our national life Founded a thrill to work on and I hope that some listeners will will enjoy reading electric over a website. Seven get more people get more information about. You can find it certainly at Amazon, Barnes, and noble at your local independent bookstore, which we always wanted support, and and you can find me at author Kevin Cook at facebook. I think there are way too many Kevin Cooks out there for me to get that one so so I have. Author Kevin Cook. Bill link on our website to for the PODCAST, but Kevin Pleasure talking to you appreciate your rescheduling. No hope everything's okay with your family and all you little medical situation there, but appreciate the time and we'll talk to you again down the road. I enjoyed it. Thanks so much.
I-5 Series Game 6 Postgame Show
"I all Henry. Shulman air with a recap of game, six of the interstate five world series, and not a fun one for the team of Northern California greats. The nor cows were three out from the first interstate five pile with Dennis Eckersley on the mound be hundred dollar, a bottle champagne on ice clubs in the home clubhouse at the coliseum had all the lockers covered with plastic for a celebration, and it was a celebration that didn't happen. Fred Lynn's two run double off. Act tied the game three three in the night and southern California wanted with a grand slam in the tent by Eddie Mathews off Dave, Stewart, good for seven to three victory, so the nor Kaos three two one series lead has gone. The Golden Greats World Series comes down to game seven oracle par a contest that they never thought they would say lefty Gomez certainly was the pitching star of the series after tossing six hundred innings of shutout relief into free, he blank southern California for seven innings in game six, and got the nor cows through a even with bobby bonds hitting a homer. Homer for the first southern California run, so we bring in northern California manager Bruce Jenkins and Bruce some of these pitching. Decisions of yours have have not worked out. I mean, and this has been an offensive series, so it really has been tough. I think in a lot of cases to pick these pitchers on. You didn't let lefty Gomez finish a jam, and you instead went for Eckersley. Who Blew the save? And then you brought David Stewart in Dave Stewart in for redemption in the tenth inning after poor performances, a starter in game four, and that turned disastrous. Let let's start with the decision to go to Eckersley at. Eight innings lefty Gomez. Throwing one run ball what went into that decision? Well, I went against my basic nature there Henry, if somebody's pitching a Jim, the ratings and looks like he's in control I'm always once I. WanNa leave a man. I hate to see managers. Take out a guy who's throwing well because he's throwing a hundred pitches. If you throw ninety nine by God, we're going to bring it back out there anyway. I like to see guys. Finish what they start, but here we are three outs away. Left going on short rest, and when you've got eckersley to close it out I i. just you know that that's what I chose to do. I think either way I can live with it either I certainly can live with bringing Eckersley to close out the series. Okay, so that's not a decision. You lose sleep over right now. Not at all. Okay, I mean. MEAN, Dennis Eckersley one of the great closers of all time, and he had a two run lead. Even had you know a run to work with Abu? Get to Stewart in in just a bit Let's go back a little bit earlier. This was a one nothing game in the seventh inning a Ken. Kennedy added RBI triple in the fourth against Jim Palmer. So it was one nothing in the seventh. When Joe Dimaggio came to the plate with a man on against Palmer and provided a swing that pushed the nor cows that much closer to the title, John Miller has the call so now jolt Joe Dimaggio to the plate for the man aboard here in the last of the seven, still only one to nothing nor cow, leading and Jim. Palmer stood on the mound, having an outstanding night. Joe Basho one of the all time greats ten. Series, he played in and his team. The Yankees one nine of those ten, but he's kind of a quiet sherry so far. Palmer ready about. And he throws. Swings Anita drive the center field. That one is hit pretty well. Going way back. There do Snyder. He's at the warning track. He's at the wall. Is. A homerun. Tell Dimaggio with a two run homer over the Centerfield Wall. who had the coliseum over the four hundred foot sign, and it is three nothing. Nor Cow. Okay, now it's three now that you have a three nothing lead, it's. You know there's there's only. A couple minutes left here in this game and you know even with the even with the offensive nature of the series I'm imagining that with a three nothing lead. At Lefty Gomez pitching the way he's going Dennis Eckersley in your holster I mean. Did you start to think about that champagne at all? I was thinking more Tang. Tang in case, we were GONNA go to game seven. No no no cockiness there, but to see Dimaggio come to life like that was really invigorating. It felt like it put up ten nothing. It felt so good. He hasn't had a great offensive series, but He was about to make a play that made me feel even better about it. And, it just look really good at that point. Yeah I it just I mean it three nothing lead with the kind of pitching. You have like we're talking about. just sounded just sounded kind of impenetrable impenetrable. So you have Dennis Eckersley on the mound three one lead. The problem is that. The one of the guys he had to face in the ending was the guy who has taken over the series offensively I mean it was just the bad fortunate. ECKERSLEY had faces former as teammate Mark Maguire, and Maguire came up there and he he get a double, and maybe was rattled a little bit He didn't usually walk is, but he walked Eddie Mathews. Now there's two on at southern. California manager Houston. Mitchell he just made a what turned out to be a genius move, he had Fred Lynn. Bat for Robin Yount that moves surprise you a little bit. Well a little bit. I mean Frank Robinson. Once told me that Robin Yount. In one, thousand, nine, hundred two, which is the year we haven't had the greatest series ever seen by shortstop, and he wound up being an outfielder after that but Fred Lynn in his early days with the Red Sox was like a revelation. You know tremendous left hand hitter made spectacular catches ran into walls, Fan favourite. So, what are you going, do we? You know if you're playing the righty lefty thing? He's left knee coming up against act, so they're a little bit, but it, but it was part of the deal is at Houston like like I. I was trying to do is trying to get guys in the game and boy he he made A. Gutsy move there. It kinda paid off. So what is Lendu? To double the ties the game three all now I know you don't believe in momentum, Bruce but following the Lynn double there was a play that seemed to shift tied back to northern California's favor. Some McGraw is on the Mound Tony. gwynn is at the plate and he hits. What looks to be go ahead single, but Joe Dimaggio had other ideas southern California, staying alive two runs in here in the ninth inning, three three time tug McGraw from the bullpen to face Tony Gwynn now with Lynn the possible go ahead run at second base. And here's McGraw the left-hander to the left handed batting, Gwen. Grin hits a line drive up. The Middle Base headed a Centerfield Lynch coming around third. He's going to be way home tonight. Show. He's got a great aunt. Comes up throwing. A perfect one hops throw to the plate. It's going to be close and he is. The Great Tag after the grades. Role Ernie Long Bond. Is used, and we put up a road block, blocking off men from the place, and that the game tied Joe Dimaggio. Who've had quite a game? He nor town from falling behind here in the night. Well, that's not a bad center fielder. You have their bruce while Joe. Dimaggio charged. That ball came up throwing. Threw a perfect strike to home to nail him and Oh man. You talk about momentum. Wh when I say I don't believe in it I believe in like the next day. You don't have any momentum from the day before, but it during a game I, absolutely believe in it, and when Dimaggio threw him out like that i. just felt like okay. You know bobby bonds was retired. Retired to end that inning, we got out of it. We go to extras, and I'm just thinking Dimaggio between the run, and that great and I still like we're we're. We're going here and I was just thinking to imagine if you're a fan, in in in the Coliseum and this is the first chance you've had to see. Joe Dimaggio play to see him do what he did so well. Not only at the plate, but in the field I think that that would be a moment. I would I would never ever forget just good. Yeah, and you know when he did that Houston. Mitchell's like how how great is this? It went against him. I said that several times when things went well for him. You'll see idea beast, guys. You're managing these guys and seeing what they're doing and so many great scenarios. Presented themselves and it got to be more about just a pure enjoyment of the game, then by God I'm GonNa? Crush you, hear Nortel the way I mean. That was part of it, but just the the players involved in able to manage him kind of. Everything emotionally. Yeah, and you know that play that. Dimaggio made throwing out. Redland might have had a small effect on what happened in the tenth inning, but eventually worked out for the so cows anyway what happened. Was that You know the Clicquot or the I? Don't know the Arco Brand. Champagne had long been removed from the home dugout out that it was now that it was three three and McGraw's Dylan the game and the southern. California's in the top of the load the bases off McGraw now. You made a decision and to bring in Dave Stewart to face Maguire and I mean that right there you would think might have. Created the hit that puts this game in so cal favor now, mcgwire hit a fly ball to center Jackie Robinson, as fast as he was, didn't test Maggio's arm and I guess with nobody out. There was no real reason to, but that really is kind of a respect for Dimaggio's Armin and what we saw the evening before, right? Absolutely once again you know Dimaggio's rising to the occasion and you know with Stuart there. You know we're in Oakland. Maguire's coming off He's had the better of Stewart. I, talked Dave, are you ready to pitch released and He especially wanted this moment and by God. I went with him there when he got Maguire on the fly ball I'm thinking. You know, thank you. However the double a double plane. You're out of it and you have the momentum now in, but that's not what happened Eddie. Mathews step to the plate. That baby faced assassin. From the braves and here's John, Miller, letting you know what happened such tension, such drama tenth inning here at the Coliseum in game six, three, two three, the score days Stewart brought in from the bullpen in such a tight spot after tug McGraw walked the bases loaded with one, he did get maguire on a shallow fly ball to Santa, but now here's. Three men on two men out Matthews twelve time, Star five hundred twelve home runs one of the greatest slugging third baseman in major league history, and here is stu to Eddie Mathews, and there's a swing on long drive deep in the center field. Way Back Goes Dimaggio. He's gliding back to the warning track and get out. Arrive Brag Grandma. It's Grand Salami time. Eddie bathrooms with a Grand Slam. The tenth and Southern California has as seven to three lead, so that's it a grand slam by Eddie Mathews, a four four-run victory for southern California, and now the series is all tied up at three games apiece and I I have to think now that even though the game is at home. It's going to be at Oracle Park You have to think that maybe. Maybe the the momentum that you don't believe in is actually on the southern. California side on the other hand. You're putting the series in the hands of Tom Seaver, and as we as we know, he had a three hit complete game in in game. Two and he's GonNa Face Don Drysdale, who was the game, went loser and didn't have a great game on. You feel pretty good about that matter. Now I feel really good about it Tom seaver pitching for me, you know we the are. Bats did not go quiet in in game six. The maggio came to life The mood in the clubhouses is good. It's upbeat. It was a tough tough hang. Right off the bat. It was pretty crushing, but a few minutes went by. Guys are going. We're looking good here. Let's look around this clubhouse. We're GONNA take it tomorrow at Oracle. And Save the embarrassment of blowing a three one way all right well. One game left in the Golden Greats series. Here I mean you couldn't have asked for more from a competitive standpoint and we'll talk to you after game seven Bruce, you bet mccord to Henry. Thank you for listening. Be sure to subscribe to the giants splash, or as plus podcast, so you can hear future recaps from this golden greats world series.
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I'm down here in Charlotte North Carolina. I got a little work to do on the next book coming up. Do some research get to see my grandsons Leo and Dino enjoying it I mean it's kind of fun and then I'm right here Charleston. I could see that wonderful democratic debate. I mean we're have you gone Joe Dimaggio? That's this nation. Cry Less Lonely is do you? That's what I tweeted last night after watching that I'm like this is the best we have. The offer were in trouble. It was It was quite the show. This question about it. I love that the state what we're GONNA do today. Mike which is analyzing what people are saying despite what the actual words are. So you know it's like you have to Parse they're actually saying and so we're going to start with one of our favorites Ryan Pace. Who has you've memorably said for those? Who are new to the. Gm SHUFFLE WHO is starting his car every morning because of his. Pick your bisky. The bears are different now. These the appealing a pace. Take a listen to what he says. And the Michael. Explain what he's actually saying. I think when look at last season. And that's really what the last couple of months in the coming months are all about is is it's a multitude of factors you know and it's not just one person. It's not just a quarterback it's a it's a number of factors and for us at started January first and we made some staff changes and evaluating our own roster and establishing our needs. And and now it's just attacking that you know and it's creating competition everywhere. It's green competition quarterback and throughout her entire roster all right so that's Ryan pace talking about Mitchell trubisky and listen if you look at the cap space here Mike the. Nfl Players Association lists the bears. Fourteen point six million cap space but according to SPOT RACK DOT COM Jackson's could be as much as twenty six million cap space. We all know he's lying but what's he actually saying he's talking about trubisky and locking them up and making him the. Guy I don't know how he does it with a straight face when he talks about Mitchell's accuracy like he's actually seen this on tape and I think you know what happens. Is You lose faith in your organization when you try to lie to the public. Who's watched the same thing you have? Now they may not have the same I that you have. But they've watched Mitchell. Throw the ball on the dirt. Dave watched Mitchell make horrendous place. They've watched Mitchell throw receivers not even come close to catch them. Like I said he was in the county fair. He never went a stuff animal. So you can't sell that. He's accurate right. You can't and he goes in front of this and literally. He would be better off just saying look. We're disappointed in the season. We're disappointed with everybody but they handle Mitchell with kid gloves. It's like they don't want to offend them. And they're dealing with a guy who basically doesn't have the mental capacity to handle any competition he just wants and so they're kind of placating to him when they should be coming out and saying look. We're disappointed you know. We have a lot of high hopes for the season. Our quarter everybody including me. We all let ourselves down. We all have to get better. Who If we don't improve we're going to bring competition and and the best players are GonNa play what he's saying is basically all the other t the everybody else is at fault except for Mitchell. That just doesn't cut it bottom line. Is this trubisky is going to be the starting quarterback for the next season right because whether or not pace believes what he's saying obviously they drafted him so high took a gamble on it. Maybe they would feel like it would be premature to admit it was a mistake even though you and I both agree. He's Never GonNa be the quarterback they think he is no and they're not gonNA PICK UP THE FIFTH YEAR OPTION. So that they're telling you right now that they're not sure about the fifth year now maybe he's going to pick it up before may think he's crazy if he does. I mean who's this competition for? Mvp Mitch and then. Where's he going to get? You know he's got so he could have a twenty six million a cap room. He's gotTa fix a lot of things on his team. And how does he end up getting a quarterback to come in? Is HE GONNA draft one. You know in the later rounds. Because he doesn't have. The raiders have his first round pick. You know there's a lot of conversation about maybe trading for quarterback. Maybe he could do that but look I. I think this whole thing I think pace is going down with the ship I think. He's the captain of the titanic. He's going to go down with it. He's not going to change how he drafted this guy. He believes the lies that he's telling and so therefore he's just going to go down with it he's not going to cave in to it because the reality of it is is he's got too much investment. Somebody on twitter said to me yesterday. Is it all just ego and I think it's really that's what it is. I think it's partly ego and no one wants to MIT. They made a mistake. And when you go through anything in decision making about twenty eight variables when it comes to bias right. There's twenty eight variables and when you look at draft history and you go through all these biases whether it's you know confirmation bias whether it self serving bias which this one is you can find mistakes and when you analyze drafts. Ninety nine point nine percent of the time the bias that you have is the reason why you make mistakes. I mean the bias that the Portland Trailblazers will have Clyde Drexler. So we don't need Michael Jordan. A bias right. You believe that right so you take Sam Mbui or you take Ralph Sampson whomever you know it is. I mean so you basically do that. And therefore you end up blowing the pick and ultimately it's not a lie if you believe it Ryan Pace believes believes that at least in his own head the quarterbacks and what they're actually saying Pat Shurmur instrumental selecting Daniel Jones out of Duke fired now. The offensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos Zhen Dana Jones's first offensive coordinator quarterbacks coach Mike Shula also given the pink slip so new head coach. Joe Judge refusing to mention the quarterback by name through three sessions with reporters. Take a listen. It's not going to be fair for me to go ahead and set expectations for roster at point. Okay I'm looking forward to getting a man working with the spring and training camp and lead them their own identity and building around the players at show through competition that we can go ahead and improve. So what does he just come out and say yeah? Jones is a starter for now. But we'll see. He Disneyland Sam by name. What's he really saying here? He's saying that it's open competition. He wants to be able to stand in front of his team. Say Look fell us. No one has a job on this team. No one's you have to earn the right to make this team. He's got to do that to install the Patriot way. I mean ultimately what he's doing he's committed to the Patriot. Way And you know. And he's working his staff hard. I mean I haven't been talking to five people at the combine. They all say the giant coaching staff is in their early in the morning. They're working late at night. He's working. I mean he's working on my show. That clapper's gotta be saying like what the Hell's going on here like. There's a lot of things in and judge is never gonNA give in to basically rewarding a player. Who's done nothing with the starting job so the reason he doesn't say Dan Jones his name is because he wants to treat all the players the same he wants to make everybody come in and compete for a job. Meanwhile Galman is out there talking about bill. Walsh's ability to see the second year of pliers and the development and he's talking about how he read the book finding the winning edge he was quote quotas. I so again. This is the perfect scenario. You have two different themes going within an organization and if they would just let joe be the spokesman and really protect themselves from government talking because they really should. I mean unless gettleman has a lawyer sitting next to him. They shouldn't have talked because they they need to. You know. Remember when Michael Leans over to Tom Hagen and he puts his hand over the Mike to get advice from Oregon. You know I mean that's the way it should have. He should have Tom. Hagen sitting next to him at every press coverage because he's only going to say something that's only going to blow it up right like like Dave seriously. Somebody sent me a tweet today and says why do the giants keep letting them go out there? Because that's the giants. I mean. They're gonNa let them do that. I think if Joe GIS allows himself the ability to run this team way he wants to run it with the Patriots which is compete competitive and you can just see it right now. They are all in competitive nature. Now I will say this this whole collective bargaining agreement. We're GONNA talk more about it later but that's GonNa get into the Patriot way when you want to establish what you want to do in terms of competition and they're taking away practices from you. It's going to be really hard. You're going to have to be adapted and creative to change what you're doing from the Patriot way because the Patriot way was built on a lot of practices. A lot of competition. Now that's going to be taken away if this gets passed. Yeah we'll get to that in a minute but just one more than the giants Mike Similarly to how high the bears drafted trubisky. Don't you feel like even if Joe Jr who has the real power here of Joe Judge Daniel Jones and practice and Tranco's you know I don't think he's good enough to be our starter can gettleman overrule him. Isn't that the natural course of action because of the fact that drafted Jones? Ohi Or do you think Joe Judge will have enough power like now man. I don't think this guy is the guy who can win with or I think Joe is going to go kicking and screaming. I think if he doesn't think Daniel Jones says the guy he's going to kick and scream he's not gonna Look He. He was going to be the head coach of Mississippi State. He got this job right. He's playing with house money. I mean He. He's not GonNa play Nice in the sandbox. He's going to go down kicking and screaming because he's going to walk in there and say. Hey this is what it takes to win in the League and I think ultimately are they kill like Daniel Jones will he loved Daniel Jones? I think that's the main question I think the question. No one's asking the gentleman at the press conference is is Daniel Jones. Better than just in. Herbert is Daniel Jones better than to to our is Daniel Jones. Better Than Joe Borough. I think that's the fundamental question has get ask because no one does that. No one compares it so when you took Daniel Jones and the top of the round and you passed on a pass rusher. Did you really think that there was not going to be another opportunity to get a quarterback? I mean at that point. Did you really is this guy. That's why we great players because we great players to be able to say that this guy is going to be a blue chip player. This guy was gonna be a redshift player. And if they're not then you can't take them at that point. Remember the draft is about money and so that's the question that needs to be asked. Would you take? Would you take Daniel Jones or would you take Joe Borough now? They're not going to get Joe Byrd he's going to be gone. Will you take Daniel? Jones are Justin Herbert well. I'm just telling you Justin Herbert's probably one of the hottest guys in the straffed. I mean he's GonNa go early in the draft. Anybody has him going. In the teens crazy he could easily go in the top five to. Nobody's going to know where he's going to go because until they start looking at his hip. No one's going to be able to say he's going in the top five top three or you can love them because ultimately the doctors control where he's going to go but ultimately you know the giants are already trying to sell the fourth pick. They're they're basically doing that. And judge announced that judge said. Hey Look we're willing to sell the fourth pick. Because the reason they're doing that is because they know. Herbert's a hot commodity. They know that everybody. Kinda in the. Nfl knows he's going to be moving up. And because of that you know to get in the top five I mean. Just say to US healthy. We could see three quarterbacks picked on the top by now might not be the teams that are drafted. It may be some other teams moving in there. But that's the reality. Yeah definitely risky. There were two of. But you're right if you look at his track record. Al Explosively is big on the fact. He planted Alabama. If he's healthy that I'm with you. I think he gets drafted pretty quickly. One more here in terms of quarterbacks what are they actually saying raiders. Mike Mayock hell the press conference scouting combine on Tuesday. Anyone who's been following the team can't surprise surprised. You feel the questions with the teams outlook at quarterback. Here's what he had to say about. Derek Carr so two questions to get to but thank you. I mean the bottom line is I think everybody needs understand at what level Derek Carr played last year okay. The Guy completed seventy percent of his passes. He had almost a three to one touchdown interception ratio. I think we're number eleven in the league in total yards seventh and third down conversions. We did a lot of really good things on offense last year. The disconnect was. We didn't score a lot of points. Your eleven in yards and twenty four points. There's an issue it's defense special teams. It's not scoring in the red zone and it's not scoring and golden goal. Okay so to me. Those are the issues dirk. Car played at a high level. I'm very happy with our car. What I've told everybody I've been in touch with since the day I took this job is. We're going to evaluate every position every year. And if we can get better we will and guys get tired of me saying that. But that's really what I told. Mark Davis before I took the job and that that's my mantra is connected to a certain forty. I don't think anything of any rumors all I can tell you about free agency because I'm not allowed to talk about any of them anyway is that I've watched but just about every guy out there at every position and all that does is uphold. I'm telling you is that every position gets evaluated every year and if we can upgrade it we will decode Harvey Keitel. The now is not the time to not say so what he's saying. Mike is if Tom Brady is available. Of course we're going to sign the greatest player of all time right. I think he is. I mean look I mean. He makes them really valid points. I mean he what he's doing these buffet up the trade value for Derek Carr. I mean that's what he's doing. I mean at the end of the day. All those numbers look beautiful but they could. They've won eleven games in two years with Derek. Cars are starting quarterback. You know Andy. Reid went to Kansas City and traded for Alex Smith and made the playoffs in his first year. I promise you the Alex Smith Team Andy. Reid coach was not better than what? The raiders had. Raiders got a lot of money in their offensive line that we know their defense is bad. And I think Mike's Rights Defense special teams were poor all year but the fact. That car doesn't have what Gruden wants in terms of that leadership and all that. I think that's the problem. So keep going up. And I think all he was doing yesterday was obviously selling and pumping up his player by citing those facts and it's easy to fall in love. Halo car was seventh on third. Down was a car was a GRUDEN. They were eleventh in passing yards. Was that car. Was that Gruden. See this is where we get a little bit disconnected. We always want to give credit to the player which they deserve a ton of credit but sometimes the scheme makes the player you know when someone catches an out route on against cover three. And they're you the out you know. Don't go all crazy on the play I made some throws the scheme allows you to make. And we're I think GRUDEN's disconnect with car has always been and it will continue to be because his inability to make complaints within the play. May GRUDEN's watch him homes and he's watching place breakdown and all of a sudden there's a big time play and cars to make those plays and I think there lies the disconnect and I think Mike saying is true. Look everything cars done on. Paper looks good but the reality of this. We've won eleven games in two years. Aided give some good stats here. Right in terms of trade by seventy percent completion. Three to one touch interception seven third down Blah Blah Blah but ultimately. If you can get Brady. That's a much different story and after the break seriously. What the Hell's Tom Brady Gone? He officially becomes a free agent next month. Much like the AFC champion. 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Big needs to address in the draft edge rusher backup quarterback running back so gm John Robertson coach Mike Gabel taking the podium and Tuesday at the combine. I addressing the media this off season and in terms of potentially getting a guy like Tom Brady. Raval said he was aware of this since debunked rumors about Brady Visiting Nashville. Few weeks before adding. I don't really follow much of that on social media other than that there was little budget on the potential of the titans going after Brady IMF free agency a suggestion that has gained traction since. Espn's Adam schefter offered this nugget while appear on the rich. Eisen show Schefter said. We need to pay more attention to Tennessee than we thought. Tennessee is more viable as a potential. Tom Brady destination than we thought. What do you think well? I think the one thing we've always said all along in the Tom Brady sweepstakes is where is Tom? Is that comfort? Ability is going to be a critical right. He's gotTa feel really comfortable with the people in the organization. He's got to trust that. There's obviously an understanding and and and he knows John Robertson. He knows Mike rebel really well. It was a teammate of Mike. Variable so he knows him and he knows that their team is pretty much set up. I mean they can add some things but obviously if they sign him back and get and get Henry back which they obviously would do that Then it gives them a strong tends to be a really good football team in terms of having some weapons. We saw Brown make some plays. They've got some skill players. They've got a lot of ex Patriot players within the team. I mean you know Logan Ryan's a free agent that got Malcolm Butler. It would be a locker room that it would be comfortable for him. I don't know what the long term plan would be the titans you know. Would they'd sign Brady let Tannahill go and then draft one. Is that what they're thinking? That certainly could be the option but it would create a ton of buzz and Tennessee. Would it make them a better team? Boy I duNno. Tannahill made some great places when they Kansas City in Nashville. The third down run he takes off and runs and powers his way through plus that offensive. Line and Tennessee is a much better run blocking line than his pass blocking line. I think it's risky to go to Tennessee if I were Tom Brady. It's a run based team with a run based offensive line but I think ultimately comfortable going to play into this factor. I don't think there's any doubt there's lots of great points. You make their one of which is like you said Mike. I'd not convince them. A better. Like tannehill was so good for them that my first thought is not hey. Let's discard him. Go get Tom Brady. I'm thinking let's Keep Daniel. Because OBVIOUSLY HE FIT. Well their offense you perform well comfortable personnel etc. So I wouldn't be rushing off and I liked your other point too. But braiding factor run based offense like I don't think he's ready to go out to pasture yet. I don't think he's ready to be just a handed off guy and a third four or five completion fine. I still think he feels that. There's life in that arm and I don't think he's ready to be diminished. I don't think he asked me the Alpha male wherever he goes. But he's Tom Brady. For God's Sakes I don't think he just wants to hand the ball off to Derrick Henry all day. Yeah I mean that's the interesting thing and then where do they go like? Oh Hey what steps be if they do. This schefter look schefters not throwing shit up against the wall. He's he's privy to all this information from you know he knows rebel. He knows John Robinson John Robinson not shy about talking so we know he's going to say what he thinks he's going to do. So you know we we know that and they also have been a haven for ex Patriot players. I mean whether it's Dion Lewis whether it's you know Malcolm Butler whatever it is. They seem to now. They didn't pick up the fifth year on Corey Davis. So they're basically saying. Do they have enough skill players to make this really effective brow was incredible. You know they've got tight ends. I mean there's a myth there's there's certainly elements of this team but to me. I thought Tannahill was the difference in their team. There's no doubt in his ability to move and make plays was really what what? I thought that they were really really good at it. When they couldn't run the football they really couldn't pass protect well enough so you know look. I think the the thing the other thing that's been reported as how the chargers may not be in this thing because they felt like that may not be the best place for him and I and I still don't think the chargers are the best place. I think it's Tennessee and the raiders. I think those are the two teams that at the end of the day. See their window as the opportunity to get Brady and they want to take advantage of it. Yeah the raiders. Daffy both interesting. I mean you're bringing a lot of buzz there that team. You're going to vegas him in Gruden together. I mean that would definitely offer a lot of sizzle meantime player leadership within the NFL. Remains quote majorly divided over the proposal of a seventeen game season according to ESPN. Is Jeremy Fowler? To you wonder about how contentious is could be between the owners and the players themselves players problem with like an increase in revenue share improved pension further working conditions improvements before agreeing to new. Cba current agreement expires March. Twenty twenty one they. Also maybe it could delay the franchise tag. I mean the white now guarantee revenue share forty eight percent in two thousand twenty one a potential increase of forty eight and a half percent upon the start of a seventeen game citizen. But it's real simple Mike if you want to play more if there's a greater risk of injury and of course the owner doesn't listen. Nobody cares what preseason anyways. We'll get rid of a preseason game or two we'll just have one more regular season game. The players saying fine increase the risk of injury that I get more money. How do you think this all plays out? I think when they take today we'll find out later recording this at nine o'clock on a Wednesday morning and I think we'll see more of this come out later today but to me when they take it to the players the players see more money. They more jobs. They're going to vote for it. I I THEY. All they need is a majority vote. This isn't like the filibuster rule in at the United States. Senate I mean they just need a majority of the voting and look. The owners were not unanimous with their vote on this. So there is some contention within their own ranks. I I my sense of it is is. I think it's going to be. The biggest challenge is the seventeen games but I think the bigger challenges for executives coaches to figure out how to get a team ready to play football with the way they've limited the practices. I think. That's really the issue. How are we going to get teams ready to play football when we only have so many practices when the players have so many days off when we can't really eliminating the the way to get around it was to go and have joint practices? They're limiting that. The limiting the off season I mean the month of September essentially is going to be the preseason. It already is now. It's going to become more of the preseason and I think this whole notion of playing seventeen games. What they talked about yesterday was playing an interconference game in week. Seventeen which means that you know Houston plays Seattle. Well that might not mean anything you know. That game could mean nothing to the race so players could take off and then having the time off before the end of the preseason to the beginning of the season and the way the practices are with pads. I actually think when you break it all down. There might actually be less contact than there is. What sixteen games when they go to seventeen games based on the way the practice is set up because right now you know. Teams are taken advantage of those practices because they have to plan about in the preseason. That's interesting it's a different perspective on it. Because you're right you'd think more games more violence. But if you're GonNa Kinda coach yourself you know go at the right pace that awfully means a different thing in terms of injuries and and risk management. Yeah I do think this. I think that the teams that figure out how to have viable practices without pads. Now Bill Walston this years ago is how do we have physical practices without pass and keep our tempo and be able to keep the players pad level in tackling at an optimum level. See this is where Joe Judge is going to get into a problem here because Joe Judge is going to go back to his office and he's got to look at the Patriots practice schedules and he's not gonna be able to do those things he's going to be able to do tackling drills every day now tackling drills doing lanark live but they are form fitting kneepads on the really do it. Well you're not going to have passed on so this is going to make his job harder. I'm not saying it's impossible. It's just GonNa make his job harder and the teams that are proactive. In how they handle this are going to be the teams that that the teams that have better. Months-to-september have better healthier season. I think it's going to be critical. Yeah Practicing Better. Practice smarter like you said making sure teams ready to go without risking greater sense of injury. Don't go anywhere. It's one of the sports stories of the year boxing. Store your plus American Pie. What the heck are we talking about? We'll explain next one of the craziest boxing scenes you'll ever see. And that was before the fight Tyson. Fury comes in to Patsy Kline. He's singing crazy written by the Great Willie Nelson and I'm thinking my come. Watch us with my buddies. Hocus go are you kidding me? There's no way this guy's going to win it comes out like Apollo creed. He's got the guts of jacking. Come on and then I see deontay wilder after the fight. He blamed the fact that was cost. Me was wearing an honor a black history month. It was a forty five pound costume. That's insane that he wore this thing out of the ring. But that was all the pageantry before the fight as to the actual fury was incredible. He pushes around deontay wilder. He was the clear underdog and yet he comes up with a resounding victory I while the Jelly legged and then after he sings American pie to the crowd. Let's see the crazy scenes I've ever seen. I thought it was unbelievable. I mean first of all you know the fact that both boxers got up wait was interesting right so you know. It's always hard when athletes put more weight on and then they got it box is can they actually hold the way? Can they endure you know as players get older in the NFL? They tend to lose weight because because their quickness you get you put weight on and I thought you know when I was doing in this past weekend on Saturday I thought look. Somebody's going down in this fight. I don't know who I thought it would be. Fury would go down but somebody's going down because they can't handle the weight and obviously it was wilder you know. And then he launches into American Pie which to me is was so good. It was amazing and my favorite line of all time is when they asked on the claim. When American Pie is about he said it does American Pie. Meany says it means I never have to work again in my life. I think that's just awesome. It's great do you have any idea? What American pie about. Have you ever wondered what it's about no as you're saying I mean? Think about the movie American Pie and what that's about so I'm wondering if it's something along those lines. Well no it's about. It's basically he wrote it as a theme to the sixties. It's a little bit like billy Joel's anthem of WHO's at the fire. It was basically the when buddy holly died the music died and and it was a kind of a theme. And there's so much interplay you could go online and listen to the words helter skelter and a summer swelter. You know I mean there's so many great like it just so rhythmic to what he was talking about. And there's so many points the three men I admire most the father son and the Holy Ghost I mean. That's Martin Luther. King John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. I'm in so those are the those are like what is lines are in the song and it's a powerful anthem to what he did. And it's incredible that you know somebody I mean. That's a whole generation removed. That fury would come out and sing that I mean it's just incredible. I thought it was unbelievable but I you know what I like. I like the fact that there is some conversation about heavyweight boxing. Like to me when I grew up. It was Frazier Ali. It was Larry Holmes it was it was Mike Tyson. We haven't had that kind of feel anymore. Have we know? And you're right. I think specifically for American. Boxing fans obviously would disown. We'VE GOT CANAL ALVAREZ TRIPLE G and those guys are great fighters but I think you're right for the casual sportsmen when they hear boxing they think heavyweight boxing. Cheer Point growing up with Ali Frazier. You know for me. It was Tyson Holyfield. There's always something special but heavyweights and now the buzzes back. People were talking boxing. I think there was a lot of buzz for the fight coming. In and now the rematch people are fired up for this probably going to happen this summer. I definitely think it's going to happen. I mean look the guy got US eardrum busted I mean. How do you fight with your eardrum busted like that? How do you even stay with imbalance? I mean some of the warriors. That box is just incredible right and how they are able to do it. It's this is fascinating so yeah I think the I think ultimately what we're looking at is we're looking at a great rematch. And that's going to be huge money day for both these guys and I mean look I. If I'm fury I'd go out on the circuit. Sing a few songs. I mean everybody liked it to batch. The heavyweight champion Karaoke uncle junior did it. I know meadow was throwing bread at him while he was singing. But I mean Shit. Uncle Junior was brilliant singing that song that was other great lines of all time when he comes in there. Tony sits next to a Jackie. Junior's funeral and I'll go juniors eaten. He says the grace good today. Which is the classic Italian line. The gravy is good today only in North Jersey. Would people understand that gravies read? It is Brown. I was about to say true Italian thing. They're not you call it gravy or sauce right. That's always another discrepancy. It's always it's the gravy is good today. It's you know that's the best in watching them. Dunk that bred into it and then Tony I mean it's like so perfect and then he sings. Look Look I. It's just so authentic and I think that's what fury was very was authentic. And what he was doing. Yeah think about it. He was everybody was done right more than two years public battles addiction mental illness like people love a great comeback story. And that's the guy you can rally around like you think a will. Nobody cheers for Goliath. But in this case Tyson fury such a charismatic guy as you root for them I mean in the athlticism both guys I mean both over six six and the way they moved their feet and you know and did some things I mean. It's really remarkable that they are able to to have that kind of coordination and athletic skills and being so tall and being so big. I mean you know. Could you imagine Rocky Marciano? You know is undefeated back. In the day it was a little little you know. Five ten Italian guy was basically could get barely get to two hundred pounds. Put Him in the Ring Tyson Fury. See how that would have worked out would have been tough. Gm Chappel mailbag. Let's open it up the GM shuffle a g mail dot com is where you can get a hold of us. This is from Philip. Be in New York City in the recent episode of the Panthers. Take fifteen million dollar salary cap it because of Luke. Keith these retirement. Why does a team get penalized? If a player retires doesn't seem fair and especially with the emphasis player safety and head injuries does declare forfeit the money to. Yeah the player does he has to pay back the remaining portion of the signing bonuses and it's basically once he repays it they'll get credit back on that was he repays it but for the for the time being until that happens he gets charged for it. I mean Barry. Sanders had the huge fight. I mean this is what Calvin Johnson was arguing. About what the Lions He. He was refusing to pay back a signing bonus. Just because you get you get fifteen million to sign a contract and you sign it for five years. Three million of that. Those dollars are spread out over five years. Even though you got the money completely upfront well if you retire in year two you know you've only earned six million of the fifteen based on your services you have to pay the remaining nine million back so you know that's a problem. And sometimes I think I think Phillips right is it. Does you know. Sometimes maybe players are playing. Because they just don't want to pay the money back and so they're gonNa go through it and I think that that's a little bit of a loophole that has to get worked out. And I think it is a dozen Bob player safety but keithly I mean the the that was going to have to work around their cap. They're going to have to figure out a way to and that's why this is so damn important because it will open up a whole landscape of free agency more trades. Different things happening. Because you'll be able to prorate money out. The June one date might came back in and teams will be a little bit more active within their cap. As opposed to right. Now everything is kind of a little bit Little Bit Stock. And they're going to stay in place all right well as always. It'll be interesting to see what happens. If the players like Mike Zimmer taping this Wednesday morning celebrity will find out more with guys. Nfl PA. Mike and I always hustling out there. I was at a recent guest once again. The ryen Russillo podcast. Check that out on the ringer and Mike was a guest. Nfl WITH NIA on this podcast is she said you talked about football philosophies bill belichick bill. Walsh Al Davis said it was an honor so I look forward to listening to that podcast. You Nia yeah. It was awesome. I you know I mean the more international. We can go pick the better off. We'll take the GM shuffle at some point. At some point we will get to the mountain which is basically Holstein's. We'll get there. The good news is you started with D'Amato reference and we ended up with Marciano an uncle junior along the way I love it. Enjoy the Carolinas my friend. We'll talk next week.
Kazeem Famuyide, Getting A Brazilian, and How We Are The Cast of Unbreakable
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I won the Champions League this weekend, it got over. Come on. What are you about let you claim that been for five years? Not just them up in five years bucket. Bad times. No, no, no. Oh, but Tali was our fucking star. That'd be don't care as long as they could possibly like the team started liking soccer like this. I won the Champions League this weekend. Now, I'm not letting you have that. I mean I put merch on sale for pretty awesome merge, actually, the not. Not. Have you did you see the most Allah shirt? No, you're actually going like, oh, what up me? John just looked at his phone gives all the shot out on a DJ bonus. Whatever. I mean that's a bad ass, like almost all the king. That's a fucking shit. Got the big crown, the Egyptian king. That's a fucking Hosh. I'm not let you claim this stuff. They will not let you do it. I'm not allowed to do it. It's like me and the islanders, bro. Notes you did it for the playoffs. I've been following over five years. It's like it's like the islanders. Watch the couple. It's I one I mean. I have it's starting to become pretty clear that I have a magic, it's well, we are like movie on breakable, Mr. glass, and what's the other guy? Bruce Willis Brazil. Right. I. Willis the whole time. No this on your three in the day. He's just Bruce Willis. Yeah. We are polar opposites put on this planet to balance out the universe. And we somehow made made it made our way to each other. Like he finds him. It's like maybe I like seek you out like like Sandywell did like it just happened to happen. But that's it. I mean that's what's going on the clear. You know what I need to do? I need to. Yeah. That'd be fine. I must kill. I mean just like it's my destiny. Is this just differently far away? We're gonna talk about today actually do it from far away. Yeah. We talked about the you yesterday where like I would if it was like the apocalypse type thing I would have like chapter cons. O rien either worked on run. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let me see each other. Yeah, but you're not good. I know. I mean you guys don't go that far I go to across the room. But if you run that far they I miss dumb, and dumber bow your a bad shot. Dude, you I must tell you. But the yeah I mean it's pretty good. It's pretty good job. I'm so tired driving. There have been the last two weeks seven times. We get on trains or planes and I'm like, Frankie and I'm like, what fucking day. I don't even have a guess I thought you said it was Thurs. No, it's not. But I don't know if what beginning that we get into the league. When, when you think it's Thursday in it's Tuesday. That's like you don't even know whether you're coming or going are you late on Thursday early on Thursday? It was it's it's been does. But like I mean dance talking about before because he's done runs. The playoff runs are fucking. I if you had the fuck in Celtics in it still. I mean, I honestly never now. Guys got into the Red Sox mode yet 'cause my teams take up all of my energy, and I actually it's my phantoms fun. He likes soda mine just in the in, in the polar opposite away. My the kind of trying to explain to wipe yesterday because my patriots Vadim is the one that's always on display the most 'cause they're always here. So that's what everyone's like. You're always. So confident we'll the patriots I am. But with the Red Sox Bruins I am a more like you where I'm, I'm either black or white, like I was I think I think, with the patriots, you're so business like where it's just like you know, it's just like a guarantee whereas like. The other team patriots and red Bruins Red Sox. You're like the Pat, like the emotion comes out, more, right? Ridiculous. It's to do now. I'm like fuck. Where walked is the muscle. Yeah. Wherever the patriots, don't worry about it three months ago. Right. We're nachos. Your you still always good like anyway, with the other teams too. Yeah, they're always good. But this is like these series are although today. I don't know. We might have got some news chara. My got some news jars back. It's not it's not official. It's not you got some news. It's not a reliable source. It's I'm not let me tell you this much. Let, let me just give you a little we'll vice here. If you have some sort of insight info, that's leaning towards char coming back run with that cuss jar is coming jars like the chances of that happening are probably like one hundred percent because he's a fucking freak. So put your name on it. And that way, when it is true. You'll yes that was me Br. Well, I was saying that yesterday I was one of my big concerns with the Bruins was that they're hurt and grizzly, and chara and Kevin Miller, just not on back ever, but not ever but the season and, but we like charring grizzly also missing. I've heard both will be in game five hockey stupid. How can I mean? I can't I can't. I mean someone just got like shoulder that guy in the fucking, jaw good luck seven feet launched someone in the I heard that this morning, he looked ridiculous with that big old fucking thing on. Yeah. I know it was awesome bubble. Yeah. But the I, I heard that this morning I started tearing up thinking about how the garden is going to you robbed when he's announcing the starting lineup when was like thirty three your gosh. She's quiet. What? You know what I'm doing today? John, we doing gove. It's the twentieth anniversary of. Larry Johnson hitting a shot. That's what we're selling. We're going Blake. The four point well it was in game three. The Eastern Conference finals in a year where they did go onto the finals, and they just got radical, but Tim Duncan, and David Robinson, and the Spurs. But hey, twenty years ago that dude he hit that jumper. So let's throw a fucking party as though that's tough. And you know what's sad is like I was like, oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah it's good. That was awesome. Really awesome. Nice memory having nice memories is nice. I mean it was a cool play. It's just that it's like sad. That it's that anti-chavez gets us live on forever. And yeah, you do that. Any child was catch with the greatest catch fulltime that meant absolutely nothing. You know gets the cardinals and be like polls like all the way it's like the greatest at the wall catchable on time. But when onto me nothing because they lost. Yeah, just fuck me, you know, just fucked me. I gotta show you a clip. It's patriots and Mets involved, or you heard of this. I mean you were at odds right now. Tom Brady is trying to trademark Tom terrific. Okay. Which is not as nickname. But it's not right now it wants when when he was younger league on lender. Like prepay tree. It's no like early. Nobody knows nobody. Nobody calls nothing people's lives. It's not. I mean, no one knows any more people gone. Thing name. Well, it was like name too. I know he's like one of the great pitchers ever. But, but that's not that's not Tom Brady's nickname. It's just not not all went out of the world now. Call people call now. It was okay so trading name said, who is Tom terrific. I mean, no, they wouldn't. And I don't know if they would be I don't know if they would say, Tom Seaver, either, fifty years outside might just be like, I don't fucking know, in queens, but it'd be like, no everyone's like Alan Tom Brady. I guess you'd have to be like, I guess, who's Tom and Tom Brady's like currently playing but nobody's coming up with any educated. Guess outside of queens would say Tom Brady. It's what I if you told me sports, maybe but he just had like, who's Tom terrific? I, I don't know Tom Selleck. I'm not sure like I have no fucking idea. I kinda wanna do it will pull in the office. Well, I think it's being a new super now I mean like second floor. Right floor. Okay. All those fucking nerves are gonna know anything. No either player. But I don't really care about one or the other. I just thought it was weird like you're trying to market nicknamed. It's not yours. While Mets fans are all upset and they held a protest John protest. I'm gonna love protests. This protest is is delivered by posts mates, or it's by Barcelo, Google dot com slash KFC. So you see, we're doing a little video the little video on audio. The gas and he'll go to barstool goal dot com slash KFC. We're gonna play some video of this protest it's still littered by post mates. Post made some Benadryl to my house last night, wasn't for me. What he was having an allergic reaction, people just couldn't sleep got that shit delivered. Everybody's slept up baby. Why didn't have any in my house because I ran out of it. Deliver you medicine, the deliver. You snacks. I got some donuts put in there. Also, quote unquote kids. I get my dinner delivered every night post meets his my number one. 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This is ABC crane pools, and someone else was on the sixty nine Mets played at Tom Seaver showed up to this protest now I hate protests. I hate all that kind of shit, you know. And I was like fuck these guys this is such a stupid argument to begin with, like, I don't I don't think it's Tom Brady's nickname, but whatever, like Tom, Tom Seaver is amended now sorry, but he is. And, and Tom Brady is gonna go do whatever fine, it's weird. But who cares? Then I saw the protests and what they did. And now I think I'm all in on the protests fuck Tom Brady, Tom, Tom terrific is Tom Seaver. These guys show up at the bar they take out. They take Tom Brady memorabilia. They take they have jerseys and posters. They get out a pot of baked beans. And throw it all the time. Brady memorabilia. Just throwing beans in a garbage can where the Tom Brady jersey and the rowing be look like dirty, messy grimy beans. They're just throwing it against the Tom Brady picture. And now I'm all in on the protest fuck. Tom brady. Tom terrific is a New York met. He's Tom seabreeze the greatest pitcher that ever lived, and we're throwing beans, baby. Fascinated fascinated can you believe that like Mets were there like the six granted those guys like what I don't have anything else to do? I mean my teammates retired from from by the way, retiring from public. Life is awesome. Yeah. We'll talk. We'll just did that Tom Seaver did it. But the king king Charles I think, or whatever. Yeah. He did it. But also someone else who? Oh, I think Bill Bugner did because he passed away from dementia. And I was like, oh, I didn't know that. Going as well as I wanted to what working on our video segment here. This is live. Retiring from from, from public life, usually it's pretty fucking terrible. You know, but I'm gonna do it without dementia. Like I might do it next year. Thank why is he just wanted to I think retiring from public life without dementia? You got to have met, you know, I'm going to travel is. I think it's disrespectful shit. I know what you're saying. But like no does. What does he just kind of means becoming a relevant, plenty people retired from from, from public life without dementia? I think it's okay. I see what you mean. But like what if I retire from public, but I still do podcasts over you just do like your reckless like maybe like I only Skype don't only my apartment like you wanna call it over the last two weeks. I think we've learned that the Skype might not work. I don't know. So, so you guys have to come to my apartment for now onto the podcast, I've retired for public never mind, this podcast, then. Do you have any New Jersey whoever it is? We we got. We got. We got it just move in together. This is Charlie the Frank still just 'cause you want to live in the city is what I'm so sick of the commute already. And I have a really easy commute is just like so stupid. Bob. Bob. So expensive. And then, like, when I do have the kids like how do I get when I don't have the kids, I'm like this is so fucking stupid. When I do have the kids, I'm like, I have to have this place where it is. And everything it was still he's got a room to rent on dangerously close to, like, subletting with one of, you guys got an extra an extra closet, like hundred twenty five bucks a month that actually might be something that happens. Okay. Just put that out there. Yeah. Put a little file because I'll probably take that just have some clothes there. I actually need more space anyway. I'll just put like half my clothes and half my shoes. They're just have a second life. It's my city life. This is city Kevin. He dresses different. He actually is that just just take over the green just lived here for a while. Did you heard that it was just like he was, I mean, but now I in his defense like he, he was getting kicked out of his one place and his new place. Didn't start for a week. So he was just, like I don't know what to do like some of the other people in the passive just like lived here. Other it's such a weird job. And I hate comparing it to other dogs because there's nothing like absolutely nothing like it in the world. Will he imagines any other job, which is like up your Krasny office for week or so Donnie was taking showers the other day? I mean this is the same office where we have a been been of rotting meats. And it's been there since before the Stanley Cup finals starting it's, it's just sitting back there is like honestly God is probably does it have our name on it. Good good. I don't know. I don't know if you took it, but he said, I am taking it. I don't know if he actually, right? He said, I am taking their like five bins of like thirty pounds a hundred fifty pounds of rotting meat back there. The office. Here's a question for you has someone had sex into office yet. No. Really? I think somebody probably is. I don't think there's been a they did it sober sex, and that's wild if you're ever in silver Saxon in office. I don't think there's better. I mean I wasn't been like a party. I think we're having when we launched a new Amsterdam bar, they'll be like a party of sorts. Yeah. But you don't think that's somebody's been out and been like I don't know where we go. Which would we do like the offices here, sort of thing? No. Because this is because this building locks up at ten pm. We just got to Keith arts. Blossoming. I don't think so. I think you I don't know about this. I don't think it won't happen. I just don't only happened yet. I bet you bet you someone on third floor sparked those nerds talk. And I bet you they had a key cards. I bet you, they have I'm not I don't know anything. I'm just saying, like, here's speculation. Pure speculation. But I just, I think people fucking this office, I fucking offices is cool. I never build office. Anywhere. Saxon. Mill office. Nope. Dolphin though. Way after work out. Was like eleven o'clock at night and work on something. But it was I would never do you're in the middle of the day. They're just dragging off bathroom. Yeah. I mean it's like every could hear you. Yeah. The door shut the fuck fan. Ryan. If he was to. Speaking of the offense, let's get into it. We haven't done it a couple of weeks. Forgot a couple of weeks in a row to do the office. So it's the return of everyone's favorite game. You know what time it is? It's movement watch time. Check your watch. It's also sunglass season because you know my rule where sunglasses during the summer. So it's officially past Memorial Day. Now I can wear Shane's. I got my pair, common I got like translucent frames with, like the purple lenses. They're like those like city Casey shades like guy Fieri. They're they're outrageous. And I'm almost positive they looked better on the website than they do in person. And they look like really cool. 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Just like I walk in the city, you can get away with a non polarized. Get yourself a polarized parent, N, B M, T dot com slash. AFC fifteen percents off your order free shipping. Free returns MVM the dot com slash KFC Janis back. He went around the office and for topics where you're ready to cook. What do we got? Trent had verse one. That was good like. Native American burial grounds. Don't know don't know what he goes. He's like, I don't know what does the spire rampant. We try and look at me. Fucking dead. Indian shirt. Oh, yeah. That's probably what it was. It was like inception. He looked at it and didn't realize it. He definitely didn't it. I don't know how to keep into my mind native American Larry steering, your fucking also you have experience at this. I do. Yeah. I have experienced with it. Are you scared of them? Are you there actually one of the few things that I am? I wouldn't fuck with. Yeah. I'll goes off with whatever I don't give a shit about the regular cemetery shore, I American burial grounds. I was I don't even want to step foot on it. Let alone like fuck with it. I mean, that was when you were kid that was like the number one thing you could say, like scare somebody does house on every native American program. Like fucked out, not finish. My dunk Rouge. I'm out of here. Are you kidding me? That I mean, they, you know, native Americans are magic magic. Yes, they can conjure like mother nature. You know it's not even like magic. It's like they are one with the earth. Yeah. You know when they say, like we only use a ten percent of our brain, sort of thing like they have like extra access to the world of one of the most impressive things native Americans used to do to me, do not to me. Yeah, it's just around barefoot. Oh, time. Yeah. I guess crazy. Yeah. I mean yeah. I mean, the arrow hunting was crazy. And, and the cooking and TV building. I don't know much about American culture chopping people scalps off scalping was pretty good. But just just run through the woods barefoot watching movies. Lasted Higgins, a kennel. I don't even wearing shoes. Yeah. I can't even I can't even. A little flap of skin over there, dick, like a deer down that. Yeah, yeah. You went you went cloth. If I wear t shirts, you only wear shorts, I'm gonna wear loin cloths doing like around New York City. But if I was back in that time, I would like that, look, all I feel like it'd be very self conscious I wouldn't even come out of your teeth, I think it would back then was different. We're just like, you know, peace, love, really there was. No, there was no shame. Yeah, it was like, we don't know close ours. I bet them playing lacrosse with their enemies heads. If I mentioned correctly. Yeah. Yeah. I believe. Yeah. They don't fuck around I believe it was started with the heads of their enemies. They didn't have a little rubber ball. It was it was a skull human skull the breaking the ball. You're playing with. Got shattered again skull kill another white, man. Like bone Tomahawk was kind of like Indians, right? They were like incests like it was like aborigine type shit. Right. Right. I think people think of, like I don't think people appreciate how hard core some Indians got, you know, like like the Pocahontas vibe is it ain't real, you know what I mean? Like we we, we had to slaughter them because they were so fucking. We'll because they really wanted to keep their land, and they definitely did it definitely did. But I think we were like we need to infect these guys with a big disease because because they're afraid smallpox. I always get confused with the other like syphilis. That'd be fucked up now. Big talks about box. As far as if you'd Meyer military procedures such as I do, of course, a man of tactic noted not military tactic fan as a pretty good one that's meant to do it. I think it was just like, oh, it's an accident. I, I don't know. I think we just brought over a bunch of diseases, and I think it was I think it was like biochemical warfare. I think it was just like, oh, I fucking dead. It was like, hey, these guys can't even hang out with. I thought it was like we get all the dirty blankets. Maybe give him to the native Americans. Maybe I mean, we were pretty fucked up. So I wouldn't put a pass them, but we, we taught such a weird like sorta warped version of that sort of history in general, so like it probably was like we just sneezed on accidentally over dinner, and they said, God bless you. And we apologize you delays giving and they got sick. Yeah. They were slaughtering back like the stuff that you and I guess, maybe as a kid, it's a little dark to be telling, you know, like high school, which it should be. Like, hey, it wasn't just like you get to work, but you didn't get paid to work is what slavery was. It was it was really bad, too. They called it the trail of tears, and it's just like we make you March to your death out of your land than you cry and die. And just like, oh, thanksgiving. They taught us how to make corn. We taught them how to on Turkey. That's what we're talk, we've probably done that with every like everything. I mean, we dropped atomic bombs in the middle of fuck at city, vice that if you go to, you know what they teach in Japan, like, why don't you unfairly bombed by the bucket Americans, did, we do we report on the history here Japan? They'll do like, yes. So we attacked a military base. They attacked us city eighty like downtown like on a school fucking that is if you read the reports of that shit like the after rather here Shema with people just walking around like like, just like walking away from the blast and eyeballs fallen on their skin falling over there, just like it's like Chernobyl dude, we saw that, that special, those guys who are just like around that power plant that our skin just dead in the I'm going to read it actually Tyler Tyler re tweeted it yesterday where he was talking about your novel and someone sent him. Like what the original? The count from one of the wives of what happened with their husband, it is grizzly. Okay. So you're not watch. If you have watched your noble. It's over now with a mini series, five episodes, super fucking good. They dressed him inform. Aware with his service cap. They couldn't get shoes on him because it's swelled up the cut up the former where too, because they couldn't get it on him. There wasn't a whole body to put it on. It was just all wounds the last two days of the hospital I lift his arm. And meanwhile, the bonus shaking to sort of dangling because the body had gone away from it pieces of his lungs of his liver. We're coming out of his mouth, he was choking on his internal organs. I'd wrap my hand in a bandage and put in his mouth to take all the stuff to take out all the stuff. It's impossible to talk about. It's impossible to write about and even to live through it was all mine. My love the couldn't get a single payer to shoot two single pair of shoes to fit him. They buried him barefoot is like badgen. Use your fucking livers coming out of your mouth. Do. Just absolutely right. I mean come on walking anymore being overdosing we do what? We do. What is happened? It was like those internal the scenes. They're just melting to the bed. What are we doing just wrong idiot, who had to get in there? Yeah. That was so stupid. Well, I gotta be right there, and I have to hold his hand. We talk you moron. That nurse was like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. You have to watch turnover. I also read that it is like the most historically accurate like show ever over minus the whole accents thing. Mine is the woman, the woman, the woman just doesn't exist. Oh, no, no. I meant I don't know about like the people, but I meant like the the setting the scenery the, the Russian everything Russian yeah. It was a guy on Twitter. It was like he's a Russian historical sports writer, but he's all about Russian history. And he's like I lived through Aaron like the close the cigarettes the food that like everything is. So on point. They like did it down to the nitty gritty detail really. So. Like the Americans is example like the Russian accents are goofy and the some of the stuff they were doing isn't historically accurate. This is the opposite. It was like everything was, so fucking real historically accurate. I get what you're saying, but you also can't be like it's incredibly accurate when one of the stars didn't wasn't it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just talking more about the Russian. That was surprising the president. Yeah. She didn't. She just that wasn't like a. Like a we kind of like through a bunch of people together. And yeah, it was at the end you. Watched, you must not watch like the full thing when the kind of scrolling through all the facts and explaining what happened to everybody. But she wasn't he'll or something like that. She didn't exist, but she was there to represent. A bunch of scientists who helped him that it makes sense that you can't have a five mini series. You can't have twenty guys helping me out. Here's the one care, do represents that make sense. All right. Let's get back to the office. Rainforests. I wouldn't to Iran for his cafe. That's right. Which I who I have never been. Oh, it was. I didn't even know it wasn't you telling about the John Taffer thing. No, we talked about this in somebody. We were lunch with the comedy central people. John. John, like invented reports by John. I gotta be honest up until, like three months ago. We brought this up. I, I don't know what Rinku works cafe. And it was together that you're basically inside a rainforest. And if there's like waterfalls. Yeah. Animals growling. Bugaboo creek. I don't know if that was a might have been a regional thing. I think it's out of business now but when I was when I was a good, boy, I got to go to the bugaboo creek, and it was just like when you were not imprisoning your, your housekeeper torturing babysitters, moose would like yell at you and stuff like that was awesome. All basically a restaurant of what, what do you eat, what kind of food? I mean it's just like America, but you go for, like a, you know, dinners and ribs. And yeah, yeah, it was good. I mean for the fanfare, everyone's rainforest cafe, most recently, it was, I didn't I just drank. But what so-called has Taffer they're like, they'll be thunderstorms in the rain. How like lightning thing and Taffer? I don't know if you've been bring forth cafe, but he was a consultant for it where that was his idea, where make loud, thunder and the, the company followed like the. The how often drinks ordered, and when they do thunder like every half hour, the drink orders like double really just like it's just a subliminal thing. I don't know if it's the danger of it or just of it. But, like Denise eight also turned over tables quicker that like you went through like to once you do like to rain, right? Yeah. The guy I want you. We got our money's worth. Let's get out of here, and it was like more tables per day. It's really isn't attraction that also kicks you out. He's such a small fucking good, man. You deal with your dick, I gotta go. See I've had enough. To him on big brain to that's out now. I think so too just dropped. So once a week, you can catch Taffer and reportedly and Dave just roasting stool with bad ideas. The rainforests in general, is one of those things I don't believe the stats go on. I'll tell me anything about the rain and like half the rainforest think. Oh, yeah. That's the thing as a kid piece of the reinforce, and I only half of space. Yeah, I have rain, several stars and asteroids yet have the rainforest. I own manatee. This is nice swam with manatee that's in the family, my brothers, the manatee owner in the family. You're with them. I've never swam his own dolphins wasn't my period. So I've made I made it out. Okay. Cancelled with period because they'll just drown you. Tomlin's have fucked like native Americans. We've been taught to think that they're all like cool, and fun. And they are murderous motherfucker. I don't they will make Americans are the bad ones you keep going them. I think we're the bad ones that we're good database. I think we were both at we're both bad one. So we get the right history. That's true. Don't get around cater, bro. That's true. But like if you told me like like. Sixty percent of the world's species have not even been discovered yet in the rainforest said like okay. Like, you know, the, the amount of water the rainforest produces in a day is equivalent to the entire Atlantic Ocean. Sure. Whatever man, all that shit like he did not you could live in the sun force in the rainforest, and never even see the sun because of the canopy, whatever you could tell me what you want about the rainforest. I think it's all bullshit. I also think we need to graze rainforest back that to me is, and it has to be bullshit. When it rains, sometimes the tree coverage is so yeah, you don't get wet ends. You don't get to the ground. Like that's not true. That's crazy. That's not true. Is what it is. It's not crazy. It's not true. And I also I just don't believe in like deforestation as a problem. I just don't think so, like you're telling me the planet is running out of trees, Kevin. You are taking some angles on this plug, as I'm going to have this. I said, I've just running out of his native Americans are evil and science denying. I can't I just don't get any word. You're all like like neuronal. Just listen. Do you ever just drive like even a little bit? Upstate New York. There's so many fucking trees. There's no houses. There's like one road going through it. And that's if you get like thirty or forty miles outside of New York City, and Liz trees everywhere. You look not that you ever just fly and you look down. There's nothing but trees everywhere. And then you go all over the world at that you go to all these some of these continents. Like nobody is there are trees coming out of this planet SO. I just don't believe that there's a problem with trees. I can I see what you're saying? Yeah, I hope you do. But like I just I believe what science tells you don't you a sheep. Yeah, I do. I, I. Well, I don't think people don't make a huge deal deforestation on climate change. The problem which I don't get to do is create like of trees. That's more of the pollutants were putting their trees, a fine youngest what they grow back. I think I think I think like it's not great like mode on the rain forest. But I think I don't think that's the main problem. I think I think they're two separate issues like come down with you a little bit. You know what I agree that there are a lot of fucking trees. Thank you. Better. Job got me on that Google that for me, how many trees around the world, and do you think civilizations going to end in twenty fifty? Yeah. Probably not. I don't I'm not getting my hopes up. Yeah. Tell you what the earth, the earth is started cry. Wolf a little bit. Yeah. Like everyone's three trillion trees. I was gonna say twenty one trillion. I wanted three trillion. So I was off by a factor of seven. It's still a lot of countries. Science man over here. Actor seven three times seven. Xian's his times, tables says that who says, like smart. People of factors are who know that there are plenty of trees on the plano. The earth is getting a little look like shit, or get off the pot is humanity. Get wiped out, or not I in my lifetime, I have survived through three like, it's the end of the world party, every time it's getting it'd be a little and like, you know, don't they always say that like every time I've all of all kaneohe explodes? It's worth like two trillion years of fucking pollution. I did. I didn't write something like that. Like, again, explosions worth like a thousand years of cars burning was like the volcanoes were always going to erupt periodically. You've added other stuff on top. I get that. But understand, like the earth it can handle pollution. It's been doing it for a long, five human body. You might as quite resilient, right? Like, like, you know, there's healthier ones than me, but I'm going to survive the full, the full length. Yeah. I mean but but, but humans have only been around for a very, very small part of the earth. Yeah. Like they did not survive. The they did not survive the hundred and fifty billion years before, but the planet did. Right. But not saying we're going to, like, oh, well, this has civilization. Yeah, yeah, I get it. But I'm saying it to me, it's more like like the I mean the ice age is just like it kind of comes these things, just kind of come, and go, they're not like pollution involve. Right. The is h happen boilers pollution. Right. Well, I mean if you count the asteroid hit and kicked all the dust up into the asteroid. So we're just another asteroid which telling me right now and saying, like we haven't survived all of the earth's conditioning. It's very hockey of humanity to say that us and our pollution is a quivalent to a meteor. Okay. All right. I just don't believe it because like you said, we've only been around for me, we do a lot of digging up the earth, I, I would I would venture to guess we've done more digging up than the media did not. I mean this pollution, why. But I bet the meteor did more damage than all of our pollution. That's fact it's at the whole planet into an ice age. We haven't done that yet what we're doing it slower. It's time to adapt. The planet is adapting the planets, like a liver. That's like some nights. You have a couple of beers and some nights. You have a thousand and your livers and I gotta work overtime here. That's what the three three trillion trees are doing filter in the air or something, we're fine. That's that was science. That's talk it science back to the office. Give me a couple more. We have Rudy Rudy kind of seeing passionate about this. One is gonna be weird weird. Get real strange. What's the acceptable length for nipple hair zero zero. I don't know. I don't know really pretty fucking Jordan. Yeah. Dude. None store, the office questioned, but the I don't know. None none, none. No, no, no nipple lake long, nipple hair. Like if you've got kind of like the hamburger meat type of just air and it just like goes by your nipples, that's fine. But if you have like. Singular hairs that sprout from your nipple that are long, just pull it. I mean disgusting it did seem like a Rudy like personal problem, but he say Rudy. Essien somebody would nipple here recently. You don't just think of that the I am a girl. I've seen some girls too. It seems that you've seen one girl, your girlfriend might have nipple. You know, everybody man woman, notable hair fully out on that last last one last one really technology just in general technology in general, this one is because the other one I got wasn't very good done. It was from Liz, and it was summer activities. And I don't know not for me. No. About no the bar. Yeah. A dark one. That would be like like you wanna throw the frisbee. No, no. Do you wanna go parasailing for sure? Definitely technology will be the downfall of civilization way before environment. Yes, I agree with Mark. My words on that. But it's also I think it's a part of it is because of our, our lack of it's, it's, it's, it's a delicate dance, we must do technology where you gotta be skeptical. But also you guys is not being Idi. This makes things better this I did. I was I was gonna wake up call which huge wakeup call guy, the hotels, love a of call. That's stupid. It's not super it's like from like the nineteen ten. Yeah, it's awesome. Wake up with boring. Oh, god. I mean you really just grunt. They're used to it and also that is the up more just hit a button, right by the bed. So you got. The phone call, but I was setting one the other night when I was in Boston. And I it was automated thing. So I wanted to automated, I so you're willing to call up a phone and then talk to a robot. No automated like you provide fine the lake. But, like okay communicate with a robot to wake you up in the morning. No. I'd rather than just push a button on your phone. No, I'm more willing to go downstairs and talk to the front desk, because that's what I have to do. Because I when I was doing the automated thing. It was it was like, please set the time say the hours, so it's seven and then it said the minutes, I wouldn't zero zero plus one for AM, two pm one am press one for today to for tomorrow. It was twelve oh three PM AM. It took me off my feet. I was I. It's on this robot. No, this thankfully, now does he know that it's kinda commonly accepted to say that it's still tonight's shoes or does he sat down at the desk shit. This is a fuck rain BUSTER. I was like, I know it's technically today, but does the computer know that? And Meanwhile, I imagine the computer listening to me, the computer strictly got their fucking hustle. I know that's, that's all. I know I know our clock. I do your stupid humanity shit. We were like, well, I've going to bed, so it's yours is the son or the mood out at time. I don't know. I go by numbers twelve today what time I was like, twelve oh, three. We're really up against it here. I don't know. There's that's one of those things where like you can now program computers to be like, like, maybe like computers are getting so smart that they would know. All right. Humans are going to think it's actually tonight, even though it's tomorrow. Oh boy, I'm real fuck. It's like it's like when you look up the definition of literally humanity is just decided that figuratively means literally. So this is the definition, but also you're not wrong. That's kind of the computer I bet you. That's why I think that that computers, will be the downfall way before everything else there. They are they're getting too smart. They're they're listening. They're watching Frankie Borelli does the, the tape over the webcam. And John was surprised by that. I was so your foolish. I mean, don't get me wrong. I don't do so. I mean, I know that I should. Yeah, I know I know I should too. I was surprised before the. Yeah. That's that's. I mean, if someone were to just hand me a piece of electrical tape right now. I'll put it on. But other than that I'm not doing. I'm gonna go get it now. Let the fuck rip it. Stick it now. But I mean almost almost every time, Brandon's got went on the face to face the face unlock where where it scans your face that, that's where deep pigs come from. Yeah. That is just scanning your face over and over refining it making a perfect. That's gonna put your face wherever they will you'll be in a porno real quick. I've actually hers. Clone you will be able to just make you go. Three D print, you. Yes. So just three D print to human looks exactly like your thumb pressure. You've been just snapping fucking selfish forever. They've got your thumbprint. They've got your face. They've been just listening. Alexa, just knows everything you say they're watching, they're watching you, dick everytime, everytime. I finished jerking off somebody wants. They know your most intimate parts and blackmail, you definitely my everything for you. My mom had to get rid like by Bob, she's ended. Alexa was making demonic noises in the middle of the night is just threw out the window like only the winner, the French leader to the house believer, and she's like is this out there for awhile rained on it? And it's not the first time that's happened with all the time was with a Furby where I I it was I guess I had a Furby and it was the middle of the night. It was like why it'd be noises? And so my mom woke up and hit in one of the cabinets in the kitchen, and then it made it started echoing from there to the point, where woke my dad up, my mom was already sleep again. So he didn't know what my mom had put in the cabinet. So he is heard like. Sharing from. So he got a broom or something like that, and is like fuck it slamming around in the cloud. It's me was very toy. And then he got so mad from it that he when he found it got him so mad at like, you know when you stop being scared, and now you're just mad some scared you that wasn't scary. It's now you just feel foolish angry because we took you out to the back patio and just beating the shit out of it with the broom, just like shouted, I go, I woke up in the morning was a strewn corpse of a Furby in the backyard. Four years old. I mean that's just that was your father. He wanted to beat you. I'll settle for the firm. I don't know if it was my for everybody siblings. I definitely I mean I could throw my kids at the window right now. I I'm gonna have to go to the gym or do something punch something. Otherwise, it's gonna be begins. I'm going to go home and smash there is that they just don't have to sleep anymore, Keegan just crawls out of the crib. Now he just fucking throws his leg over like repels down. Does it all smooth? He's like good at it. Just doesn't go to sleep. I put them in there. He crawls out every single time. And then when I finally do I finally got him to sleep satire, rubbed a stupid fucking back his dumped asks for an hour. And then shake comes barging in the ipad, battery died and wakes him up. And I was like fuck you fuck you too. It's like whack a moment. Honestly the scene last night. And the, the scene is weak. It really it could it could be like a scene on a sitcom called like single dad or some shit like that. Like I am just absolutely drowning like it is impossible to raise them alone. Don't ever get divorced. It's impossible. No matter how bad it is. It can't be as bad as trying to keep to humans alive things. Catchable. Yeah. I mean there I mean just the different words. Yeah. Exactly. It's like I could have been miserable with the person helping me or, or I, I actually it's a coin flip. It is. I also at this point, I think I'm gonna like just let them do whatever they want. All right. Stay up 'til fucking midnight. You're gonna get tired of engine. You're gonna fall asleep. I'm do fuck. But the nanny, they will in the morning. Like I tried to put him to bed from, like, I let them stay it, usually it's seven o'clock. That used to be as old bedtime. Just go bed seven o'clock. Now. It's like the sun's out full blown son. And he's like not not having that. So I started at eight o'clock I tried to put him to sleep from eight to eleven three fucking hours, just like. Just juggling them that's impossible. We didn't make the job easier on the nanny. If he wasn't gonna sleep when he's sleeping most of the time. I don't know the is going to be all, like it's all backwards. Let the more tired the kids get the less, they sleep. It's all fucked really. Yeah. It's this whole thing. You body kicks into adrenaline. It's like you're so tired. You have like fighter flight going on. 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I feel like I've got like the right you know. Audience is a good intro. Like it's that's we usually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't use you in bro. Or what would it though? I like it. I knew I mean, everybody from flagrant to can hang. So I wasn't worried about it. But that's right up, our alley. Fuck yours was fired to, like always good. I think it was like thirteen minutes long. That's always a good sign when his long like that, that means we didn't have anything to edit out, and the more people like think about it, and take it serious, like, stupid questions. Give it some thought. I mean, I'll focus incident and that's all wash the couple before, like even before, like even like really knew each other. So I was like a lot people like so seriously clearly. Medical says, how long would it? So like. That Kris Jenner answer. That's just like sometimes answer units funny. And sometimes it's like that was the fucking smart answer, Thurs Jenner. 'cause like man is person has gone so hard for so many prominent black men, like first Jenner, it's like Martin Luther King Jetson, Connie was Travis Scott Lhamo. I mean, President Bush like body man. Most powerful black medic Kris Jenner has been behind them all the way. So. Daughters. Then it's like you get it all fuck one of these hot chicks with their like purchase bodies. And then you get the protection man mafia, you'll never be a National Enquirer, always get the number one album. You'll fall you in the good way, you'll be like you, you look perfectly. That's of course it poppy for you. Yeah. Nobody's ever around when, when you when you're looking ugly with is gone. Gone to mental hospitals ten times never seen. Whatever seal, once he's clearly telling us like fucked up. Like I have a lot of mental problems. We've never seen him. How would you want every time we see perfect leak or motherfucking Mother Teresa's medical records? And it's obviously Condie. Now he is doing Sunday service with wearing all white singing songs, and it looks beautiful. So, yeah. Runs the fucking world. If there was a she's like the female about lavar ball. More effect with the way more exact better success. I think lavar ball is like the wal mart Christian lavar ball is their dollars seventy dollars store. Kris jenner. Yeah. What if what if TMZ caught you in your two thousands prom outfit, bro? That that wasn't you posted. Yes. I thought I was killing me. All right. That's the funniest part of it looking back on these things like you probably could remember that specific prom outfit. You're like you'll this talks is does my entire thing was like you wanna look like a thug angel. I one of my Jag it'll be super long when it got windy L into the open it, and let fly away like like, like a you know, like the white undertaker or some shit. And just, you know, go for the hat and everything. So, you know, to your regrets, if you're watching on Barcelo gold, you'll see the picture weeded out to it is this, it's so fucking funding. Can look at your old self because you don't think you don't think the early two thousands of that long ago. It's like twenty years. I'm like, when you look at the photos healing. Oh, yeah. That was a long time ago like June. It was on Tom Baron Davis is great like these the early two thousands. That was a long time when I when I found out today is the twentieth twentieth anniversary of Larry Johnson. Four point play like twenty years, man. I remember that gave vividly remember vividly because when it happened when I wanted to go, and like be around friends had to run outside and yell, people always remember that. I thought about doing on Twitter like oh, shit. Oh shit. Like actually have to go and find people like, oh. He's actually me and my brother. I remember vividly me and my brother we lived in Staten Island. And as soon as you hit the four point play the game was even over like me and my brother just sprinted outside ran from block to block it and other people ran out. So I was like, did you see that, that was the timeline? Yeah. Exactly old school. Tom. I was just like the block. Yes. Yes, nothing, good for the Knicks has happened since twenty just joking about it before the fact that, like, oh, we're celebrating a singular play where dude had a shot, a big one. But Jesus Christ a million lead. Can't do that. You're you're doing it. So you can't do it in the playoffs to remember a big play, you have to win and have to wear if it's like what led to a championship shore. I guess we have the doesn't thirteen the comeback. Bruins leaves where it was like, we, we ended up. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know. But we don't have a member Dave remembrance for. It's just like, oh, that was. That was. Yeah. It wasn't play you because you have other series down down by four goals and ended up winning word. I, I remember that. John's gonna come through flag. Guys on behalf who's, you know what the thing is about how you though, like I'll fuck with as a live sport. Yeah. But, like watching it on TV I can't like I I've been to a hockey game before. And I was like, oh, I totally get it. I completely see what is really fucking funds. It is definitely the best live sport. But I also I understand, I mean FOX tried to fix that problem forever ago with the tracker dot the best one, but we we're working on we. We got the best laugh. Folk, the PK Sugano. Okay. Black hockey. And then, like, I saw him talk. A couple of years here. Good star star. Was it like? Was it like half? He'll be there eventually. Let's get into some of these voicemails here feel like this is this is again, flagrant who can fuck with these voice mails and these questions that brought to you by free fly. Yes, free. Fly is supposed to be gear for when you're outside, and on the go and doing your all about that outdoors life. 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So this, this would go on year, and he would Bali, and then almost ten years later, today, it hits me, did he also use the song trimmer, trim teams when I was gone my to leave to think that he didn't use that trimmer to shave his balls when I was in there. I mean what do you think do that? I've done this. That's exactly what this guy's doing. I've done this in college, I borrowed by fucking roommates trimmer. And came back from the bathroom, and it was like the communal bathrooms and I had just showered. So I had all my other shower shit. And he was like the kind of laughed and we're like busting my balls, like, oh, I bet you were shaving you fucking junk in there, and I was like. Thanks, man that kid, I shore. You got his poops on your face. Your appeals on his face. Everybody's poops all over everybody. I mean, we've all we will share the same reason for face. Like I would have to imagine one of the more common things like I done it where I told my friend, go, my friends like I did it with, Dan. Dan, did we did a weight loss challenge kitty of big cat? And his he wanted to shave everything. He wanted he wanted to get here. The Mustang the thick most of the time he's got to get rid of the mustache to the way. Can you bring your buzzer? And I was like, sure. And then as he was like to swipe cities, like too, don't you? I mean yeah definitely your. It's never gross when it's your own. I mean be someone else's it put, even if it was yours like I mean, I don't wanna know obviously, if I could see them in on me. But if you told me that like the steel clipper has been a against your nuts, like, I don't know. Authoritive some alcohol, but you never know tell you the blue juice, I put it in the blue bar beside people don't even fucking ask. Anyway, they just take it in like shaving. It's like don't ask, don't tell only knew. But hey, what realization this must've been like, all ten years, the whole decade? He's been like that bucking idiots been shaving. He shaved his face. What he was doing it to actually I think one of the more mature things. I've done is I had a roommate and I had to shave. I like trim my, my own. But then I was like you know what I gotta get. Like I get nervous, the putting the buzzer next you ever cut it? And it looks like he got bit by a spider. Up. A little. Burns won't be real quick. I did the wax before. I fully waxed. One time. Grow it out for that. Yeah. I mean it's pretty grown up. Get off there but yeah, fully slick like I felt like if I went through like a fucking Gatorade, slip and slide right now or at that time, like I would have went like forty miles per hour. We Huber duper. Slickens England on top of cocoa butter and water. No hair, like Michael Phelps. Hey, mucking slick, as a shark nets you like Brazilian on everything Brazil, your asshole. You have when I say. You went to every flip over. Yes, I did the chest, right? Oh, and then I was gonna Bubes and it was like he's like, dude. I said everything. And the fuck the part about it like it grew back like twice as much. Wives tale. Exactly. Maybe maybe I'm making it up like maybe it was just like a little bit too much at that time. But yes, I won't fully wax. And I was smooth is eggs for like three weeks and then it grew back like four times as large. That's your body being like bulk. Hot wax, and ripped me on this is your lesson right here. I was my I've ever since then, like I've just, you know, just just those little Nance little box a little, you know, just kind of not even a box, but maybe like a little triangular type of you guys got. Geometry. The little the little try glow. I but like eating only slices on the dick. Yes, a little pizza slapped. Right. That in there. So it is what it is. My legs are kind of big so you gotta you gotta give it like a little entrance way. The WWE titans. Ron like when you walk in like it's a little screen and shit. I remember when I was younger I tried to do like this. Like I wasn't having sex. I wasn't I was probably like I barely had. And I was like trying to shave a J in it. So. Showers. It was like I like a Luther. His kids growing up because it's like if you're a girl, and you see a fucking shape day, and byu. Hey. That's right. Gets her in the moves. I already going to give us a busy. But now see this. See the saved Jay on your fucking, John stick, girl, man. You can have it for right now. Could it but you did not succeed? Our five I was like, because of like physically not able to do it yet. But you tried it was I started the Barbara. I got like two swipes in and I was like this. There's no way I can make Jay who the fuck you do. Now, I still don't think I could go for, like we'll like we'll have like somebody has to do it till I don't think I have enough pubic don't have enough hair to do. I don't think it goes up high enough. It's like this kid, he's like a inside out cabinet. Nobody here on a here on this. Nice thing with my hair. It's like it's kinda nappy. Well, like the cubes are like super Preston, smooth. So it's like Rick James. So you can't really make shapes anymore. And especially, like after the wax grew like it's never the same. If you've ever the same. You're young pubis. There's no grow like the the hair on your head. How shave my face a lot, my beers. A lot more slicker. So it's more slicker than this. So it's like curly like Jermaine Jackson James down there. And now you can't even make shape if you want, just, just style or something. Terrance wave going. Like nobody has done this yet, like I'm totally down. Like I'll get like the fucking dick do rag tied around, my thighs or something didn't get like ways from abuse and had them should spend your mellow ballers. Smoothie. I mean like I'm trying to think about that like, as a clothing designer. His work. That song doesn't always do. It's not a long, right? Like it's ways like if you keep the Cape belt, instead of rolling it on then. No. No. 'cause like it's like it's like you look like fucking yokozuna. The flap on the back. It's not a thong bro, like Suma, wrestles word. I mean. The wraps on the tip of the dick, that's right around the. I think we got some. Whoville, orange box brush it a few times a day, and, you know, take it off and watch the wave spin from local twenty percents off. Stores right now dude Pugh such a fucking. What a world where everybody's got him. Everyone's gotta deal with them. The other man. I can't believe you went full Brazilian. Yeah. I got talked into and I was like fucking. I was I was in college gives a shit Shimon. She where I was in much better shape. She'll very happy. Yeah. I was in better shape. I was playing ball time. So, like I had like, I'm all right now but back then, you know, playing ball I was great. So, you know, I got Michael, Phelps only got real slick, and you know if I had a swimmer forty meter dash or whatever the fuck, I cry. I crack atop three. That's also, if you're out there, if you're a dude out there, getting Brazilians, I felt, you gotta get your money's worth girl. If you're going to do something special, she's already back down here because like this one, she's already, they're people already know you're getting the waxed at a chest into the just go all the way all the hurt hurt, like fucking hell. Wasn't a little bit like twenty minutes how many how many rips for like your dick area? It was a lot of the first the first module on our way bigger than they are now. So I'll never do it again back then it was the starter feuds. So like all the way there. But, like, once you get like the first four or five ribs. It's just like you just go into zone. Like if you remember movies street fighter. Yes. When, when what's his name sumo wrestler Honda com? He's getting he's getting whipped and someone else's like he's like, how do you do that? Man. He's like I can just sit in my mind somewhere else. Ios he goes next time your mind goes out to bring back a pizza. Speaking to be Honda. He had the dick do rag. Yeah, that's the right there. Yeah. You gotta go into your getting tortured compared it's torture limited by this tender spots like the Gooch is like that was I, I move on. Today, although that's probably spot you need most. But and, and as we as I talked about this, this is just like chicks lives. Yeah. They do this all the time, I've been saying forever. I think I think everything is cyclical everything in the world wants push to be bad. I don't want the back. I think it is. It is. And say it's not bad. I mean you've been saying, like regular girls are not rocking. Big bushes. It's not back. Maybe you see it in porn, but, but isn't what point is foreign is head of these laws time of the horn born always the Ricks the next trend in technology or six like anal is anal was, like ten years ago there fucking that now eight will just in the streets. I was taboo. That's right. That's, that's the kind of. What is this doing giving her going on this book, you'll never call him but? Jesus christ. This guy's a fucking madman, and now it's like part of the night. I don't want that man. I don't need big bushes in my life. Anybody everybody keep it Phil? Israel all the time that she hasn't shaved and I don't look in forever. And I don't like that. The one thing about I don't like she makes up for it with everything else. You guys. We got we got Lisa an as with this episode airs. At least an she was on flagrant to the other day killed. I feel like the one clip. I saw where she was discussing how out of her way she went to make sure she did interracial this. She. I wasn't one of the first, but she was definitely like the biggest at the time to like go at that point saying. But she was don't worry on this show, you good. But yeah. Like she was definitely one of those people. I remember like granted. My poor knowledge, isn't that far? But like in my as by the time I was like twelve thirteen. She's like one of the first big, you know, white porn stars. I was like fucking like black people. I was like, oh shit. This is this the culture. Man. I felt spoken to felt you know, representation matters. I was in the white girls man. I mean, that makes sense I guess we take it for granted that there's just so much white porn out there. You watch white porn. I watch all types of like. Yeah. Well, you know, you're watching when I'm when I'm getting into zone and zone out like, I kind of want to imagine that it's me. Never do that. Everyone always says, oh, I can't imagine. It's my dick. I'll fucking care. Yeah. But it's easy for you. Because everybody's waiting point. Blacks raw fucking time. Yes. What you don't get it. That it's like a special thing for us. I am black special angle. Absolutely. She said like when she went and did it that she wouldn't get any business after that, it would ruin her career and like she went out of her way to make sure that, you know, like there was representation there in, like she was kind of a head of her time with. She did it for that reason. She thought she had a lot of she's clearly has a lot of black friends, and like, you know, especially in the business. And she thought this business was going, so she went for and like she became you know, pretty known for that, high near of lactic good shots. For a number of years aside from being like an incredible porn star. She's like, no joke. Like when the top five coolest human. Yes. I'm very excited. So that'll probably air next week on Casey radio. Go check it out now on flagrant to next up. Okay. See Feis and my favorite to producer be seeing that this is a girl that called you guys fat months ago dopamine. However, I was just the free listening to it, because it's like the best thing that ever happened to me, which is like sad. But, like whatever you call fat bitch, anyway, skinny touch with an okay, Astra. But my question is whatever happened to the treadmill KFC talk for a long time that you're like we all knew you probably weren't gonna use it. But I was really into that. And he said, he got get on the treadmill haven't talked about a long time. So if I get that summer body in shape. Well, here's the thing, the summer's here, so somebody getting in shape that ship has probably sailed maybe, maybe the fall body. Volodia sweatshirts, folk of all, buddy. Yes. So, basically, we're shooting for summer, twenty no summers. Somebody's don't happen anymore over to labor literally, to get like in, like, summer good shape, you need, like maybe three weeks of just intense something and you could see the difference in the nation. That's no. Go to GNC gets you. A couple of those fucking pills that make you shit every two minutes. That's what I do. Like I had a great body, go from like, June Salako parole. His unlike marches, and then, like I kind of fell off. And now they're fucking. We'll go to GNC. Let me get some cleansing shit. I'm gonna take shit every like twenty five minutes. I'm going to have all this fucking energy. When I go to gym, like through that sounds like an England sorta row. That might be. For every meal. And you're just check. You gotta need disorders. Shit comes out of your ass. It's fine. If it comes out of your mouth is problematic. Is a good point. It's true. It's supposed to go. Right. Should that you need. We'll stay so becomes out of your as your body doesn't need to all right. All right. Fair point fake. I don't know. It might be completely bullshit. It feels better when it comes out to your ass. I bought this. That. Definitely. On your things better going out of your ass than coming into your ass, or going out of your mouth, fac oser, that's undeniable, and I have definitely came up with better ideas with stuff coming out of my ass and coming out of my mouth when I'm throwing up you're thinking about all year regrets. But when you take an shit, you're like that galaxy brain thought a pocket. Because of your best ideas that are sitting in my office. As far as the treadmill? I got this treadmill like months ago, and I, I used to just pop it open. I would just like walk and watch a game walk and watch TV show. And then I moved, and I'm acted up. They'll do not gonna unpack. I mean it's as simple as literally, it's just tastes just taped it together when he folded up, so it's not even like it's in a box in a storage. It's like right there. I just pull the tape off and open it up. But I want to try treadmill is sealed folded up. It's like basically sealed coffin thing is now dead. It's broken actually probably that's it. Takes open that shows it's not even worth it. And I just got into a pellets home. Yeah. Like they got like some guy on there that, like, really fucking like motivates you like yells at you in class like on good. Like. Like some of it is live. And like other ones like prerecorded light. That's pretty cool. I used to do spin glass all the time. Same thing live. Right. And I, I don't know if you have your choices with, like, who you're clearly do your constructors. Yeah, but I could not do it with straight guys. Yeah. It's like called out like gig as the big John. Let's go. My that my bed and the girls, let's go, John, let's go get your ass up my bed. And if a guy like dude a fucking. What the deals like you'll? I'm tired of fucking kill, you know, you wouldn't even funny. I took a soaks like class with Flo. Rider, one time it was the weirdest experience in my life. Like, so, you know, I used to write for a lot of music. So, like they would have these events where you go to new albums, and stuff like that. And a lot of people that want to get out the box and do different things. So Flo rider was reloaded fitness kicks. It was like yo we're gonna do a fucking soul cycle class. Listen to my new album and like if you already don't like spin and you gotta listen to do Florida music it was tongue you by God. He's a performer of a generation. What's actually told me to like pit bull to first of all peoples, the God. Book. We're good. If I'm the pit bulls before I'm all right. I was I was one with jazz. We go three weeks ago. Four weeks ago, pimple, burn the mother low. Dow is lined and you have like an incredible line. Oh, shit exit. You're here. They're not like let's have fun that it was just always whenever you having a bad day he will give you a hard time to say, I'm gonna glue live like pit bull. And what was it? In his pants on the white pants black shirt, same thing. But he's like, if you if you ever having a bad day, just thinking about pit bull. And go live like pit bull and pit bulls Senate. What would do that? Sounds. WWW. PB. What would pit bull dues man? He did he on timber. And it was like I mean, I was it was called the Congo sage it was. It was like it was was like the ashtray can, and he put on timber, and it was like a fucking mad. So here's a pit bull. Right. I used to work for the source magazine for, like five years. So, like, I remember what pit bulls like, unsigned hype and the most like, legit like you are a real motherfucker. You got all the street credit in the world when he came from the Miami street an unsigned hype. That's like people were like nods, biggie like the greatest of greatest rappers. You know what I'm saying? And if you're somebody who's like, oh, I can't fuck pimple. That's not real moves. That's not hip hop. Like dude. He's just like fun. Yeah. Are you in a bad mood on a pit bull saw comes on the Persian? He's like the music version of like fast and furious movies. Joe the God I I'm not like give it the best whatever. But this is fucking. Oh, don't like fast and furious movies like it's almost like you're unamerican. Like, if you don't like car crashes and explosions, and hot girls and the rock. You're not a marriage is. In facet furious all fucking to ahead. I've had a Google calendar setup for Hobson Sean. Album sold exposed to the fire. That's what I wanna see moving. I got a picture of the. I know if you look at me Friday, all you find. His nineteenth street AMC watching. Never made plans in your life like two years in advance but I was like I was gonna anti-people guy but I didn't love him. It's still he did. There was something like the made major Facebook group was started. It was he was in some kind of contest with WalMart. I think where it was like it was like vote, you know, every town vote and whatever town wins with WalMart. The people come to a concert, at your woman, yoga, and the internet got a hold of it, and big Facebook group like seven pit bull are Anchorage, Alaska. Yeah. And it was like the smallest WalMart is small town, the whole internet just kept voting for that one. And like anyone else probably would have been like fuck that me and like trying to make an a lot of me hip win. Did that show like? Nope. That's. Two hundred people in his book, small town, Alaska, Dibble's just onstage in his cO. That's why poking guy my pit bull story was when I think he was performing somewhere. And I think somebody like try to run up on him on stage and he beats the shit out of the middle of the performance knocked him out. Throw some back in the crowd grabs. The Mike and kinesiology and I was like sold. I'm pit bull hive until the day. I. I smoke realist in the fucking game. Oh, he's got what he really unsigned high wasn't unsought. Hi, bro. He was he was signed to slip in the slot records. He was signed. All like real by. The dirt like if you've been to like, we all, see, like sunny, like beautiful Miami. But if you've been to like day, kind of like the real Miami, that's the fucking them there on all the street credit in the world. And he's become like a mega popstar how you're not gonna roof what how much is he with God, I guess? Oh, you know, we'll Google real quick. I mean he's gotta be nine got to be not figure. I mean he's got to be bad you. I bet you is one of those guys that he has money. You don't even like listen. I didn't. I didn't listen to a commercial and I hear like a pit bull BMI. Yes. And other millions. Yeah. Right shit like this. Guess I'm gonna just one fifty. There's gotta be not figured I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to twenty I would have thought that to eighty million here that he needs new business. Eighty million eighty million saying no it here. Yeah. Eighty mill total. Oh man. I would've guessed I was gonna say two hundred I thought he was big money pit bull to the Billy by this point on some days issue. He's got he doesn't have anything else, right? Like he's got all the all the music in the world. But I'd only he doesn't have clothing or lease, one of those guys that has like shoot though, like all that shit that he's always wearing. There's money to be made surprised. She doesn't have liquor like you get our drinking. Yeah. You know what it is? If he had some fucking some tequila, call Dali. Wouldn't drink that on George? We're taking that to cut that out. So they have his career earnings by year. So here says one hundred and sixty four million boom. There you go. That makes more sense they did from two thousand seven through two thousand eighteen six million four million, eight million eight million six million ten million eleven million twelve million seven and then it goes twenty twenty-seven and the last year thirty five. He's on a buddy. I'm only gonna coat nothing really gonna go up to a man. Has a master's at this point. So like every time I'll say everything plays hoping to use his song, or whatever money. And here's his every single sever that the Jay Z thing when he he just be on the was like yesterday. That was I didn't really his number. One thing was the cognac wasn't it? I believe, so. Disappeared. You know all day every day. He's got. He's kind of my boss or comes out to that. But not it's what really put him over the top, I think was the title 'cause like those, those streaming numbers it's not like like. Like people sign up for that. And like he gets like billion streams like every yeah, it is crazy. When it's the laughing stock, but it's also like. Right. Laughing up, man. And it's an it's the content he was like, he gets a stream like summer jam all these big concerts, and all this other shit through the app and the only the app, and those things cost a lot of money. So I'm pretty sure he made a lot of money off that do say stuff he's an investor in Uber. Yeah. Well, that's once you get rich, you, you just get like options forget about wrapping in partying that now you're just investing in, like absent technology, but I mean it's wild when you look at Diddy Dray and Jay billionaires like rap game if you can make it. Your money if you can get. That's like mogul type everyone. I'm sure I'm sure he's been a billionaire for longer than this past week which match. It's just without beyond say, right? So, so believe that family billionaire for. Probably due to figure what he did with the raw man. I was gonna say, oh, he's a billionaire in ninety six exactly. Still spend money from eighty eight and nineteen ninety six you know off the books. The book he's been a billionaire. Exactly. You said that. Dead presidents Bruin reasonable doubt. I came out the gate token, that was, I was back in guys were, like I don't want to be a rapper because I'm making more money here. It's just a bad businesses. That's basically what I don't I the reasonable doubt album was making so much money doing drugs. I gotta do some legal. So, you know, nobody would sign them. They start a Rockefeller records, asked him Biggs and Burke and the rest of spoken is that's what fifty did with his first like album bonus or whatever. Right. He shitload of pure coke. He's like, yeah. This doesn't go right? The great investing. Got to go back to. My favorite story. We got a guy here Francis. The whitest man lot went to Harvard says he was on the show. Have you heard about him dealing coke? No. I haven't but he did he do. The Jill offers on episode Lisa. Ghana Senegalese jury. And then he white people in spices, they can't take it was really funny. Watching him be like very spicy food that was, that's probably that's the whitest thing is ever done since this, he's trying to deal drugs, and he didn't know that you're supposed to cut it up. So he was just selling like pure, Columbian white people. It was like, I'm not making any money off this, this is this is not making sense enough gashed here. So I'm sure everyone signed from him. Yes. Going back. They loved it, but I, I was losing money. Blue is everybody. I kept on on nothing but uniform. Him. In the community. Her KFC by producer PC EC anyways, that my little brother's graduation, this weekend, and just watching kind of how the moms at on that day, some of them act fucking psychotic over the difference team sitting in row, eight or road nine and it got me, thinking there should be like a reality TV show based on this shit, or like little documentary, so commie wondering if you guys could make or wish there was a reality TV show for one like weird. Raynham thing that's not out there like not like a new real world, but some Raynham topic no one's ever done before. What do you think you would do? So wait, does it anyway, is this man show, his ideas, just angry white women. Is that what it is? Sounds like real house. Call the real thing. I think that exist, they have seven versions of the show, writing or rock, says ungrateful bitches. Fighting over a couple of those videos this season like on the bar Instagram ship people fighting over graduation season. Because that is, that's like the number one safe seats, rewrote with your family, and you're like, not he's like ten or offer me fuck that noise, but that is a big time, white people fighting scenery the graduations, a new one. This human really it was two or three of them when they were just like people throwing fucking hands over, like aspiration was crazy. Thuggish activity. Hate to see. Yeah. When I went on flare into the hate session, that went on with the kasha and caz just, just making fun of white women with the short haircuts. Oh, it was. My. My son is the my son is my Valentine here. Get when they're single. Bob's like you know, me being Trevor doing fine without you. Yeah. We just gotta win it on that. The white woman. About this. Some chick right now. Going off here. I don't think so not yet may will will short, Bob and apartment. In, in the drive, a Nissan Altima, Dave. Got a sudden name Trevor drop them off at a race house. One mental breakdown one legit mental breakdown before you get that here. I think our, our demographic skews a little younger like ninety percent of them will one day. But you gotta have you gotta get I like, legit Zan prescriptions. Like cheese breakfast. Got a crash into your Grozny ones with a bottle of white wine. On ambien. Put yellow wine out of business. I think once you're crying in the bathroom by a forty minutes ticket goes off like you like XBox achievement. Like you are now eligible for short. Girl. I know what we need. I mean, I kind of understand though, I feel that that's when women reach their breaking point where they're just like fucking. Hey, my kids this job. My hair. Chopping off the last thing I have to blow dry day thing. Yeah. I want to be able to control something's thanking. Tell my hair, this, the, I would, I would think of I think reality retail, reality show is one of those meaning what it's like following, like inside ever done like retailer. It's every before used to work at Abercrombie, and Fitch really a teenager. Senior nice school junior high school holding shirts. And I was one of those guys at one point where I would stand outside. Where? Good. Yeah. Head like ads, you would sit shape. I'm sure I'll sitting in front of during the sidewalk sales during the mall. It was only gotta work Staten Island, and another white guy. And you know, we'd sit there and greet people, and they will take pictures. You're like a reverse, Lisa Ambro. You, you breaking down the barriers the other way, working Advocaat shirt off, man. Oh, I was I remember like what like ten years ago when, like the hood, this like Hollister and Abercrombie. And I was like on this. Cloudy. Hoodies and tease. Tell the. When brothers were tight jeans, and like over the ankles, or whatever on first late Manley house. The been had that that's reality guide. Great mug and show us the work at GNC, and he's providence, the people come in, there would be like, like, our most expensive product was nice impounded, would, we keep locked up because nice vitamin E powder? But it's white and looks a lot like cocaine. Okay. So it was just so high all the feelers come it was so funny, like come into people and Alaska. They roll up like in the park in the fire lane. This big wad of cash the bottle and you biggest one you're not even trying to hide. This online cheaper and I wouldn't be like this a coke. Don't even I'm going to get your number. If I was a person, I call this cutting cocaine card. Never never deal drugs in my life. So that's good. But I've no a lot of people who had built, I've seen the process numerous times, but yes, you don't wanna do Francis and just give up. Sure. Why Colombian type? But shutouts whenever you hear that the drought is over. You've got thank God like France. Streets back shot to the plug of plugs. Brad, appreciate you coming through the park. Also, budge other shit, man. I gotta show on slam the chasm Vic show. That's straight basketball show. I'm the head of contestation. I was really happy. Download it and create your own type of podcasts or radio shows whatever. And I'm the one of the founders say palooza, we'll be Atlanta on June fourteenth masquerade only at the Balasko in Los Angeles on June twenty seconds. Beauty awards. We weekend it's right here. Reality show. Two guys go to. Everybody through a good job as he's about to roll over and do my mom's base without FOX talk wrestling with Bobby FOX catch him on that and follow on all social and all that shit. Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat whatever the fuck us. Even though I'm late.
8. TurboTax, Trump hates court, Kelly Slater surf resort March 8, 2020
"Hey welcome to week didn't start. My Name Is Jersey. I'm here with Sam. Sam has a going. Yes ams not here. Sam's traveling internationally. Sam is on vacation. And we're GonNa let her enjoy vacation. So we structured things a little differently this week. Samuel the first two verses of the week for Monday and Tuesday and then I wrote the verse for Wednesday Thursday and then the weekend verse covering Friday Saturday Sunday versus five which compiled the news for days. That Sam could be done by the time she got in her plane. And we're also of course recordings released so I'm recording this alone. A couple of days after Sam recorded her thoughts about her work on the early part of the week. So what you're gonNA hear in. This episode is a stitch together version of something that SAM recorded a couple of days ago. And something that. I'm recording right now. We're not gonNA pretend that it's a real conversation. 'cause there's a couple of days between so The next thing you're GONNA here is Sam's answer to the question we ask every week. Which is what was it like recording and writing these lyrics this week so in terms of answering the questions about the song By the stranger. I don't think that my relationship to the song really changed in a meaningful way. This week I found myself trying to think about that Joe Dimaggio Marilyn Monroe relationship in my writing verse one. I ended up going. I ended up talking about a Saudi Aramco in Marilyn Monroe verse and then going back to the Joe Dimaggio's like all right. What could have caused oil prices could compare? Is there a story about Exxon Mobil so I think there was a desire to to start approaching? Whatever lofty ideals? We think that a certain songwriter had when he put these verses down. But yeah that that was pretty much it I am really enjoying trying to match the rhymes which I think. You Jersey said that you were doing when you wrote and it has resulted in a bit less faithfulness towards the cadence and rhyme scheme I i. I'm not saying there isn't a way to do both because obviously we're trying to match the original which seems to do both but yeah does seem to be a bit of a seesaw Let's see did my relationship to the song change in any way. No No. This is just a long long slog yes log is has been the word that we both these describe this show more than any other so far and I think that's true. I felt particularly like that this week because I had a good time doing it. Like I like what I ended up writing blood I think because we were more separated and it was less Collaborative in the data day and even like recording of it. And because it wasn't split up like you to the beginning that we can. I did the end of the week. So we both have these limited time frames to write the same amount of material it felt just like I needed to get through it and get a town on paper so That was my feeling as well and I'm also looking at that balance between adhering original song and Wendy you adhere to the rhyme scheme when you adhere to the cadence that like the syllables and also when you adhere to the number of items like if you're doing that line in the last verse that's Foreign debts homeless vets AIDS Crack Bernie Goetz which has five news stories in it. Can you always get five items in that line or in some cases do you take something that has four news items and split it and make it too so we have these numbers that we use now like? I think Monday has twenty. Six things in the verse and Tuesday has twenty. Eight and Wednesday has twenty-seven and Thursday has sixteen for some reason. The only six lines and the figures has twenty-five but I don't think I'm always able to feel in as many so I do think that's another thing I'm trying to hit that. I'm doing an okay job of but I think the ideal would be match. The rhymes match the cadence. You know when he's using the down beats when he isn't When he uses those single syllable words and then also match. The number of stories perverse. If I can do that perversely I will Feel like I don't know crack the code or something but we're getting a lot more bites of this apple so I think we'll figure it out all right so the next question Sam I'm GonNa fake ask you this question. Which is what is your new news story from this week that you want to highlight from your versus the new story that I wanted to unpack a little bit just because I think it's a glimmer of light in this dark world is the story of Bob's Red Mill How Bob himself of BOB's Red Mill? Which you probably recognize your local grocery stores is all those organic grains and seeds. He is retiring. I think it's at the age of eighty one And he is giving over his entire factory to his employees. So Bob's red mill will become an entire employee owned an employee. Run Business Which is just so endearing and confirms my decision to continue buying the wheat germ of his company so that was an exciting news story. I want to unpack a little bit. let's see. I'm going to pause here And then do an old one. I like that story a lot and it's a good news story. My story from this week is also sort of a good news story at sort of two stories. It's not totally good but some of you who are listening may have seen it. It got passed around a lot because people are looking for good news. It's all this corona virus outbreak stuff right because it just keeps escalating and there's more and more. There's so much of that in in the song this week but one of the stories that didn't make the details didn't make it in but a group of students in Wuhan in China who were Taking class remotely got out of doing their homework by going to the I team's APP store and review bombing the APP. That was used for their homework. Submission with one star reviews so it got pulled from the APP store for being low quality and they were able to get out of their homework assignments which I thought was funny and ingenious and a little bit of a lighter story in the midst of all this and that's kind of related to a couple of things. One of which is one of the stories. This week is about how Stanford University is going to stop in person classes for the rest of the year because of concern about spreading the virus and I work at a university in New York City. That has told us that is a possibility. That's on the table that Teaching for time in the coming weeks might happen remotely or you know might get canceled or spring break might get extended or something like that so you know the the news is coming over. You know. It's it's getting closer and things are impacting us more directly And it's interesting to see how it's been it's been an unexpected part of this project is to see the way in which story develops in. A story becomes many different stories so to get off. This week's news Sam What is your item from the original song that you wanted to highlight for our listeners. This week so the old story that I want to talk about today or the reference that I want to unpack from the original song is the word vaccine. I think it is very timely considering that we are currently a worldwide outbreak of corona virus or Kobe nineteen which seems to be dominating. The news cycle every day. So the word vaccine as it was used in the original. We didn't start. The fire is a reference. To the scientific researcher Jonas sulks testing of the polio. Vaccine which was later declared safe in the nineteen fifties after his successful testing. So he was. Jonas Salk was a director of the virus research lab at the University of Pittsburgh. School of Medicine So he wasn't really a public. He wasn't a government. Employee was a private professor although he did get funding from the National Foundation for infantile a infantile paralysis so a lot of people at the time that the polio epidemic kind of most prevalent and children were paralyzed by it. A lot of the testing was being done with live versions of the virus. So salt was the first to try using vaccine with killed poliovirus basically having an inactive form of the virus which is how I think vaccines work today for the most part on their inactive forms and their trace amounts so he tested on like a handful of kids after testing on animals he graduated to kids then went to school. I gotta find the name but it was like the school for the retarded and feeble minded so he took it to basically an asylum where you know people whose lives were valued much lower were open to being tested or had to. They didn't have a choice but in any case there was national testing on one million children who became known as the polio pioneers and then in nineteen fifty five The vaccine was announced as safe and effective. But I'm assuming that the way it is referenced in the song is that this was the beginning of testing wave and not necessarily the The declaration that the vaccine was in use so there you go. That is the story. I wanted to unpack. Yeah that was the name of the School Shit where Jonas Salk did. Early testing for the polio vaccine and then went around attests a million or so children around the country who were then known as the polio. Pioneers and some of them are still with us to this day. And then Salk went on to Keep working in biological research started a institute in La Hoya California and died the mid-nineties while he was looking for a vaccine for AIDS. So yeah that's a just in that one word a lot information in the original song. So my Story my story from the original sil- try to do this quickly. But it's kind of a lot of information again a few words including a lot of information so. I picked heavy metal just two words within. I realized something which is that. The term in the song isn't heavy metal. It's heavy metal suicide. Those aren't separate ideas. Because I thought well. What's the cultural in impact of heavy metal and I'll go into it and you know describe it and have some kind of commentary on the Cultural Influence of heavy metal but still suicide is a stand alone. Doesn't mean anything but heavy metal suicide is something that really speaks to the time. The song was written in Nineteen Eighty. Five pair of young men killed themselves and allegedly. It was after listening to an album by the band. Judas priest who at the time you know thought of as like the furthest most extreme devil worshipping heavy metal band and this album came in nineteen seventy eight called stained class and on the record was a song called better by you better than me which is actually cover of a song by a law firm unlike the late sixties by Iraq Bangkal Spooky Tooth In the Judas priest cover allegedly had hidden messages inside the song in the vocal bridge that was inspired people to suicide and this was a long ongoing story in its sparked all kinds of investigation into music and house influencing children in a lot of religious religious folks got involved but this song was particularly are this alleged gem. His suicide influence was particularly strong because there was a civil trial attached and it didn't go to trial until after this song came out in nineteen ninety. So we're talking. Like a long protracted public media and court battle that ended up with the dismissal of the case but that was the That was the Cultural Conversation and legal action around heavy metal and its influence on the youth because it became such a popular medium in music at the time in the mid late eighties. It was kind of the music especially for young people. It also makes me think about our songwriter again. Writing it if he had written the song that started in the eighties and covers the forty years. Since then I don't know of this news that would have made it in but because it was ongoing it was sort of like the way that Salmon. I writing this song. Writing these lyrics to the song weekly while stories are still happening like corona virus. Or what have you? The Stranger was in between the. The news item. The allegations and the trials. It was something that was probably in the news very frequently and he also of course is a musician and it was about his industry about the way. His industry is changing about his livelihood. So I bet it had a bit more resins to him so it's another example of not necessarily in a negative way but bias or point of view that comes up in the song and that's why I wanted to chat about it on today's episode. Okay so let's get into the song itself so the next thing you can hear is verse one and verse two from Sam Covering Monday and Tuesday. Let's go Weinstein Justice. Mecca Girl Katherine. Johnson leaves this world. Chile Protests Tower Dallas Caucus has to go off Sanjay's extradition German right wing terrorism Ben More Bernie Drama Saudi Aramco Tech Frontier Damascus Balm Canary. I'll sandstorm Mahat here. Mohammed clashing parties Jaffer Bod co two from pilots. Seen reelect crying Jordan. Me FOR NISSIM Bay Justin Bieber biggest fortunes. Goodbye Amy Duffy Guimet. Hi Igor swap for traffic guy. Tend to Naga Freedom. Horace Amazon Brock's CDC Slovakia misogyny Curry House. Close Your said summer fest rocks. Bob's Mills David Eyres Hindu Muslim violence. Flares turbotax trumpets court. Kelly Slater Surf Resort Sabrina E. NS coup Egypt's ousted president through green berets lawsuits as surveillances in issue of student. Talk Biden's back. Us Taliban attack parks bill linguists by GM. Tout's electric line dickey large Turkey Bro. Bloomberg campaign makes the call Virus Vista monetize. France gives Uber drivers rights be Costa Rica. Data safe doggies contagion sessions runoff. Kylie's pension fight with macron INTAS Kuala Kim K. Tavis Smiley has to pay justices here. Russo Tennessee tornadoes grinder sale vodka Hans Facebook Pulls Vic Census Ads Dubai Leader Pyramid. Warren ends her White House. Bid Schumer Gorsuch cavenaugh ceasefire deal Syria. Xfl Walton Hidden Epstein. Prison Gun Baseball Pool. Space X Ronan Farrow walkout flex ice cream liquor locked away. What else do I have to say? Mulvaney out meadows in Kamla X. Bide in coup plot southern pot body. Shaming Tick Tock Jesse. Jackson Green's from Space Amtrak's lows a sell a pace. Everest climbers in a jam Thailand Protests Party Ban North Korea weapons test Lebanon default on debt. Hotel collapsed homework APPS. Would he gets the hatchet. Axe Hoop Games played for empty seats. New York state emergency aid. Alita luck its doors. I can't take it anymore. Yeah that was the song so we can't really ask each other answer questions because we're not doing this live together so instead you're going to hear it. Sam Talk a little bit about some things in her verses that she might be interesting to me and you and then I'll do the same. I will extend this recording in order to unpack the word on Amazon. In case my my mom uses the phrase grottes as a nickname for grocery so I assume that would play but in case there's any question Amazon Day cashier grocery store and is there anything else. I'm proud of. I'm just obsessed. With the way that Kelly slater surp- resort fits neatly into fifth neatly into the verse. That's one of those magic moments that I live for in this process Anyway I will see you next week. I guess you will Cool so yeah. Those are great Amazon. Actually had day did not think of as groceries at all My thought of it as Gronk meaning to pick up on something you know. Get the gist of it. So I thought you were being really hip and saying like Amazon gets what's going on with what people want or like. The storage is kind of understands what you bought. And that's why they don't need cashiers but as short for groceries. That's a new one and I love your mom for it so a couple of mine Here I'm just GonNa Kinda scroll through Ed mission. A couple as they pop off stayed and talk. I really wanted to include. That's the Eleven city ice speed skating competition race that had to relocate to Austria from Denmark because of a lack of ice due to climate. Change a lot of my verses in this week's episode. I had some really fun kind of word play. That explained the whole news story but I wasn't honoring the form as I mentioned earlier and putting enough news items were instead of Twenty Five Twenty Seven Sixteen. I had like twenty twenty one nineteen eleven because I was taking these verse. These lines at had four items three items and and putting two by doing these longer phrases so I decided to truncates some of just use a word or find more clever way to flip it around and use a short words so that I can refer to more stories if we want to look at. This is like some kind of historical documents of the past so So I pulled a lot of details from these in order to fit more stories. Oh yeah another thing. I did a squirrel. So I Italy close all their schools. So I thought. Oh what if we do you know no school in Italian? That can kind of ride fit with the rhyme scheme or fit with the meter ice cream liquor locked away is a person who licked pints of ice cream and got caught licking them and then putting the topic on putting him back in the Freezer in the grocery store disgusting. I hope they go to jail for life out in Verse Five Have Green I have Greens from space. Greens from space. There's like lettuce that has been grown in space that is delicious and healthy and is safe to eat those cool and a hoop games played for empty seats. Which took me like three tries to get right in. This recording is about two stories. One of which is a division three. Nc Double A. Tournament's basketball games were played in empty arenas to fans because of current events concerns and they are considering doing that for the Division One tournament NC double a. and the NBA is considering doing the same thing. So that covers those two stories and Italy lock. Its doors is like a little bit of You know poetic license but basically northern early on lockdown in an unprecedented Locked out of major cities in Italy because of a pandemic concerns. And and that's that was my I can't take it anymore. Line for this verse okay. So that's the show for the week That was the week in the format of the greatest poetic form of all time as written and recorded in nineteen thousand nine by Armen thus stranger Sam of from afar. Thank you for joining our. We're going to get back to your kind of normal pace or neural format next week. We will see you then goodbye for me and goodbye from Sam. We're GONNA do this all again. The weakest already starting and we gotta get going all right bye.
90+ Cellars Pinot Noir Lot 179 2018
"The day from chief line finder dot com again and. Aw We have a one From Ninety plus sellers they are negociants will get into what that is if you don't know and this one is there California Pinot Noir Latte one seven nine of the twenty eighteen vintage and A negociants that's a French term. It's a wine business in France that doesn't make their own liner release. You don't have to make their own wine with. They do is they go to different wineries in they usually select them very careful who they go to and they have to have someone who's willing to sell to them and they will rebrand that the original wineries wine under their own label and since they're buying surplus from that winery they're getting and paying cash upfront. They're getting a discounted price and they're passing the discount on to the wine drinkers. But you don't know who made the line you don't get any of the details and stories and you have to trust the negotiate and in the Gauchan businesses all about trust. If if they're their net buying from the best people are Nag. Give you the price you think is right for the wine. You're getting. You're not going to go to them. You'll go to the original winery. So so it's Kinda the trust business and this is ninety plus sellers and they started back in two thousand nine when the economy crashed and what they would do because back then there's all sorts of California Washington state. I mean they. They have wine small over but who were looking for cash and they were willing to sell all sorts of wines if you'd pay cash upfront and they were what. Why are we only buy from ninety? Plus it was up your base league. Guaranteeing that Hewlett Trust. They had to have while someone somewhere. So this is a ninety plus wine and that was a brilliant idea. And that's what they do and they're I think they're expanding I don't think they're in every every single market up there. If you're can't find it in your local stores you might have to go online. I think I put a link to them. In the in the review we did up and and they have a whole selection of wines from inexpensive. This California Pinot Noir. I found on sale for eighty ninety nine. It should sell a ten dollar range somewhere and since it is another wine with another label the original waters labels was probably three bins over for twelve to thirteen eighteen dollars. And there you go. That's what negotions do not. negotions can be more complicated than that. It doesn't have to be the exact same wine wine. Sometimes they buy the juice that is just been fermented and then they age differently or sometimes they you know Gosheh in the Rhone Valley can buy Grenache from one producer and a Sarah from another producer a the vendor from another and make a GSM blend that would never exist other than them. Put it together So they Negotiate improve I've got with the French term was for but they can do different things. They can the aging can be different The type of wood. They can be different. It doesn't have to be EXAC- exactly the same wine though a lot of times it is. I mean `specially I think this one probably is. I think that's what they do. Do they buy wines. And that that's their model. And so this is a California Pinot Noir. Don't know anything more about it than that APP. And it's pretty good It it kind of how it's kind of got the Pinot Noir funk Innis that I like about piano wire back in the day inexpensive piano wires were just kinda bob kind of bland cherry flavored wine. Not The worst thing. If you're GONNA make a bland winemaker cherry flavored. But they didn't have a lot of personality in They've started making them differently and I don't know how they made this but they started making them like the The Beaujolais produces reduces made Jimmy. And it changed everything with Pinot Noir. Now you have these inexpensive wines with personality and and again since this is a negotiate one at anything about it maybe maybe not but the flavor profile is Kinda. Got That ripe juicy thing going up Mayo me The people like but it's not that big and bold and it's Kinda got the funky flavors and Aromas that I actually like about it. I don't mind the fruit flavors but I want the I don't like about me. Miss what I like about being a new wire. You know tastes great but you know what I am looking for an appeal. Isn't there. This one has both kind of and it's eight ninety nine and it doesn't you know doesn't it doesn't go all the way forty five dollars doesn't go away. Male mates got in the middle but it does a happy medium very well and and I'm going to have a SIP because heaven a sip is a very good thing and back to negotiate winds. There's a bunch of out there. I think Cameron Hughes up there there's a few other ones out the if you look it up if you if you go online look up negotiate wines. It's a really good way and actually some French wines. Coming in here are from people who are buying the winds and putting together the sometimes are from wineries but since you can come in little cheaper you can bring it the United States with the transportation. Everything is still come up with a good price on a line. It's a great way of getting a value priced wine. If if they pick the kind of wine you want. You have to trust their pallet and most of the goals have Canada House Pal. You know what they're going to bring to you. I'm aren't yellow. Doesn't work for them really well. If they're going to every winds completely different you have to kind of have you kind of know where they're going it doesn't have to be exact same lines lines over and over again but it has to Kinda have the same feel that a lot of people enjoy they have to Kinda have abroad pal. That many people like the specially in certain price range I think in different price range. The the what the the your favorite palate is changes but there are negotions out there and it's one of those winds winds that you should always be aware of because there are times when you're in a wine shop you're not sure what to buy. And you see negotiate wine there. You know there's a year in the Merlo section and there's fifteen wives out of what you know and you know that one is going to be one of the other winds but for four four bucks cheaper. That might be the one you might Wanna by that time. So keep that in mind is negotiate lines are a good thing the wind they the the existing winery originating winery. They They get they get cash. Invokes they get money for their wine. They don't get they get rid of their excess It kind of gets a taste for their wine. I've actually seen them Negoti were so good at pushing their wines that they sold out in the original winery didn't and the regional winery. What Hey A we made that you know because they want to know you know 'cause you know sometimes times you know. The marketing part of negociants is the most important people are really good and ninety plus has been making Really good wine serve not making really good wines selling really good wines for a while Gigli like there And Expensive New Zealand Saban blocked. That's been a a really solid salad. One one the best inexpensive ones you can find and there's other ones out there that are really great and back in the day When they used to make wines that used to when the winery was bottling their wines they would you know finish battling their winds they would stick the ninety stellar Labels on and they do that and they were supposed to put the cap or the corks in there but these to get caught a lot of times because you would get a ninety plus sellers wine and had had the cork from the original winery in there. So you know. Oh that's who made ate it up. You weren't supposed to know it was they don't have that problem anymore But that used to happen. And that's what this wines about. You have to trust them that together. They're going to go out and make a good a good selection and you have to trust them that it's going to be cheaper than the original one and that's how it that's the whole model for this thing. They are going to come in. They're gonNA make a good selection wine in it may own they're going to be a value and that's the whole point all of this and that's a good thing to know if you're into wine and this little Pinot Noir La from California. It's not Monterey. It's not Mendocino's not Santa. Santa Barbara doesn't have any fancy names of tach to it could be. It could be the best Pinot producer out there and it could be from single vineyard. I don't know probably not but it could but you don't know because this negotiate wine and it tastes pretty good. I'm enjoying this nine dollar Pinot Noir. It's it's a lovely Lee bought. I'd buy it again I rarely buy them again. Because we do with these wind reviews all time you cannot keep on moving. You can't stop but negotiate. She didn't wind ninety plus sellers. That's what they are find out. Who the negotiates IRA near area? I'd like I said I haven't looked at their website But I think at one point. They're only like twenty five states but find out who your negotiations are and give them a try because if you're aligned with their pal up You can have great wines and save yourself some money and nothing wrong with that so ideas for now Will come up. Oh I have a crazy wine. In a bit we have the Bordeaux 2017 vintage Asia Tasting at the drake on Wednesday. The drake is a fancy old school fancy hotel Marilyn Monroe and Joe Dimaggio honey mood Chicago. So there's a big to do on Wednesday. We'll be going to so I won't be doing anything on Wednesday but after that I've got kind of a crazy cool wine that I'm really looking forward to drinking and there's there's more We'll have some fun and I'll talk to you later audios and.
7. U.S. Comms firewalls, Steyer chases Waterfalls February 23, 2020
"Hello we're still doing this. This is the week of ending February twenty-second. My Name Is Jersey. I'm here with Sam. Hi Sam Week Actually Undone February twenty. Third Oh well no. That was. That was correct. Thank you talk. It's just been. It feels like an endless churn. Because what we're doing on this show. This is week didn't start. We take a song. We're not gonNA name again this week by the stranger. It's impossible to them at the correct context for what we're doing without. It's a song that has a lot of news in history items in it and by the end our poet cannot take it anymore and so what we're doing every week for fifty two weeks. Out of twenty twenty is using that as a literary form to recap the week's news talk about the news and drive ourselves insane happening all right so we talked a little bit last week about how we want to get into this each week. So let's do that so question number one. How was this week for you? Recapping THE STRANGERS LYRICS. Well we adjusted our approach to the recap the listing by trying to expand the number of like trying to match not just the scancen but the number of news articles or news stories bird so that affected my relationship to writing at this week in some ways. Made it easier because we talked about if there were. If we're just listing something does it need to in the song indicate the full story of the news and we decided it does not because the originalist song all of the references some of which we will explore today are open? You know they. Aren't there one word references to things that you might not know about unless you looked it up so took some of the pressure off and Made for a bit more of a an an enjoyable writing process for me cool. Yeah I had a fun time this week. I did not expect when we embarked on this. How much of the doing of it would make me an expert of like Google not just the Google docs functionality figuring out what's the most technocratically efficient way to compile these lists of news that we're putting together and just you know listeners. That put their a compiling. Did you know that if you drop a link into Google doc it will either replace it with the title of the page that you're if you click on it? Have you found that function? So you can drop a link in the dock just like copy and paste the URL right. Click the link in rather than going directly to the link. It'll say. Do you want to replace the hyperlink with the headline of the new story that you linked allow so you can do that. Haven't used yet be you could type in a summary of the story and insert a hyperlink and Google will find the story that it links to you. Just have to check to make. Sure it's the right story in Romania slink. So in this example. How do I replace? Drop like the RAW. You are awry. Also I've already talked to. Yeah and then. It'll sort of say. Hey Do you Wanna. It's like a little trick and then the big hack this week was. We're talking about our search terms under the news tab you search for the news provider which will help focus and diversify our news sources we can specifically look for certain new sources and it just helps you generate more stories now that we know you need twenty seven for this one twenty eight for this one truly gone from cro-magnon to Homo Sapiens. It's really changed really changed the game. Just the other thing to note about the Google thing is were you ever a user of Google news like news dot Google Dot Com. I tried it. It was not reliable so it's been they've been kind of removing in offloading features from it over the last several years. The News Archive is a really cool thing. If we were ever to go back and do like a version of this for like a Prequel tweeden start the fire covering everything before. Nineteen forty five or something. There's really great resources but it becomes harder and harder to search. You used to be able to do a targeted date search in Google News. Feed not the tab on the Google search for like news dot Google Dot Com until the end of December twenty nineteen away could search for one specific date on news dot Google Dot COM. So as if to mock us right before we started this project. They removed that ability. How did you find this out? I was trying to find better and more efficient ways to find us the best way to come by on the day which we were able to do last week. We had to do a little bit more. Fill in this week. 'cause also having the numbers like you don't want exactly twenty seven stories on Monday you WanNa have options and build atlas like thirty whatever so yeah a lot about the google searching part of it This Week and overall the news felt a little less light. Do we have anything about corona virus outbreak? In this week's show not. I did not cover anything about colonel. It's so everywhere and even looking at specific like looking at Reuters on a given day looking at Al Jazeera looking at CNN. Looking at a p the first seven stories corona virus stories. I do have I do have a story. That's related to corona virus. Apple cut its sales forecast due to corona VIRA. But I had so. That's not so do so. It says apple cuts in my verse. Okay Yeah so. It's worth mentioning. If your future archivists it's still happening. And it's spreading There were so many small stories about the first case in this country or now responses to it yeah like so much about cruises and people disembarking cruises abroad. There was at one cruise last week. And then it's like this whole cruise yeah phenomenon. So I don't know if that's a function of the way that we do this sir failure but anyway the feels like worth mentioning. So that's the first question. And then these are like are two new little things of the week's news that you found. Is there something that you're interested in highlighting drawing attention to particular interesting or fascinating? There was a story in my Wednesday verse. I believe no. Excuse me story my Monday verse. So what's APP is a security vulnerability? I guess it's not surprising but because it's used by so many international journalists. It's kind of incredible that it has these issues so the way it was discovered was a reporter. I believe it was the Columbia. Journalism Review was doing great job of talking around your cash Columbia. Journalism Review went to visit his colleagues in the newsroom and found that everybody had reported A strange phenomenon whereby they would receive these WHATSAPP calls from St Louis numbers. They didn't recognize and then shortly afterwards their phone battery would drain and a call that they were taking would drop as if there was an outside source being that was like tapping the resource in using up the battery and so the journalist blames like State Actors But this idea of like government surveillance being just kind of legal or used on on what's APSO This guy recommended changing to signal for all your communications To keep them encrypted and said that it's also open source APP which means that if their security security breaches it's faster. It will become apparent faster whereas an APP that has far more kind of of a shroud around it it takes a watchdogs. Or whoever does the uncovering these vulnerabilities longer to discover that? There's been a breach so those the whole thing is like it's the one secure messaging APP and then it got acquired by facebook with this. We're going to leave it as its own thing right. I forgot but I found out this weekend that what's that was owned by facebook. Isn't that wild? And so and facebook is answering for none of it. I mean that is the ongoing. I I want Mark Zuckerberg to go to jail so badly. Will he got taken to task in was at this week in the EU? It's like he's not going to jail. He's just testifying and providing unsatisfying responses and it makes me so mad man has to be held accountable for the havoc. He has wreaked. Which I've learned can be said either. Wreaked or rock Rut. They're interchangeable wreaked or wrought havoc. You can you can do both of the past tense. Reach sounds like stinkier. Yeah I know but it's more correct. Apparently there you go Okay what's that? That's a good one I There was another data thing. Oh the agency that the White House and a bunch of US government officials used to communicate securely had a brief L. Right and like more Russia stuff you know. Mgm had breached to MGM studios or hotels. So everybody who had ever stayed in one of those hotels. Their daily dose compromise is just so funny. How many times it addresses are names are social security or credit card information at all of these companies are flop plot? They're fallible will in data is currency. That's the new heist. Is the data attack data breach. Yep So mine is not about data from this experiment. I found this Headline I think it was for Tuesday. It was really a follow up to a documentary that BBC Africa made about Western African universities Specifically University of Ghana and University of Lagos. Where there has been this decades long generations long pervasive sexual harassment and coercion culture in universities. So A it's a terrible story. And it's beginning to be uncovered. There's beginning to be accountability but basically these administrators and lecturers because of the lack of accountability. It's for decades has been accepted in academia in some of these places that either admissions people or heads of programs will solicit sexual favors and harassing worse. Students who are trying to become part trying to enroll in university. So that's the story and if you're if you're interested in there's a short documentary that BBC. Africa put together where this journalist and team of documentary filmmakers infiltrated these emissions meetings and went through the whole application process and this reporter who could pass for a seventeen year old when into these admission meetings with these different officials from different universities and put herself in the room alone with these guys who were locking the door and showing up in THEIR PAJAMAS. Propositioning her and kind of doing their whole thing. So it's a horrible story. The good news is that there is because I think this reporting has led to some accountability and some repercussions. And it's just a really good watch to yet. It's a little you know. The content of it is everyone Is Safe and she's got like a panic button and there's people nearby and everything but put yourself in the room along with these guys in. It's like a pretty impressive feat of yet the lateralism and documentary filmmaking. And I wouldn't have found that if not looking for like what happened on Tuesday right rights was really a follow up. It was like because of this documentary. Yes this thing happened which is similar. Maybe like Robert durst in the news this week. Yeah and because of a documentary He's on trial for multiple murders. Okay so the third one Sam is something from the original song. Y'All know what song it is right at a certain point in this process we'll have to rename this on. Just a re up our audiences on what in fact we're doing it's the river of dreams. Is The song recovering? No recovering a certain song about a certain thing that nobody started. And if you found the name of the podcast you notice so imagine what the generic name of this. It's like we weren't responsible for the flames. We didn't I didn't do it. Is there something from the song that popped out to you that you're like what is this actually in? Yes this week. I looked into syngman rhee which it was a politician from South Korea who served the first president of South Korea and he in this in the song he was reference because he had been forced to resign for allegedly embezzling over twenty million dollars and or fixing the election and he was rescued by way because he was in danger after discoveries so a leader that's backed by the US facing challenges in their home country after US supported government change slash election. That doesn't happen anymore. Of course Oh never know nothing happening any South. American countries are Middle Eastern countries. That would apply. I've got one that's sort of took me on a little bit a little bit of a on a little bit of a journey because it relates to how we've been talking about the structure of the song and the author of this great literary work whom we are referring to this week as the stranger. I was looking up Campanella Rockefeller Campanella Communist bloc okay and Camel Baseball player Roy. Campanella Catcher for the Brooklyn dodgers mixed race. Black player entered the League one year. After Jackie Robinson. Why Not Mention? Jackie Robinson mentioned Roy. Campanella may because Rams Rockefeller also Brooklyn dodgers child the stranger. Billy Joel Retirement. Bill was definitely a Brooklyn Dodgers Fan. Okay 'cause we also Brooklyn's got a winning team come back later in this so a two things in the song about the Brooklyn dodgers. I feel like what we can begin to do. Is Take a look at the original authors Lens and bias a little bit like this is a kid who was ten years old or whatever it win. The dodgers fourteen years old when the dodgers moved out of recline and is like we'll always be a Brooklyn dodgers fan. Which is why you mentioned campanella. Instead of Jackie Robinson also campanella died the same day as Joseph Stalin who is also mentioned the song so I can also picture like young. The Stranger hearing the announcement on radio both of them dying. And it being like this majorly impactful day. So that's part of it is like there are different things in the song that might be more linked than we are lender realize. Because that's something we've been doing. We're like well. That's not really in the song but I think it is because the other one is led me to a Marilyn Monroe and Joe Dimaggio. Who are the rhyming? Couple of in-between lines in the first verse. Not only are they a couplet but they are a couple and we're like married right so they are in the certain way too. So there might be more internal links between these things through billy. Joel's Brooklyn you know. Mid-century lends and through the way the logic of how things are put together. That's interesting end intimidating. But I think we can let us do is release into our own like I put in the verse for Whichever Day. Trump had that clemency spree. E-eh parted in commuted the sentences. I just named all the people. Okay I I was like Oh these are related. But that's like not the song but maybe it is. The song is what I'm trying to say. I may have used that phrase but not none of the names. Just saying the overarching misuse of clemency. So That's interesting there. There's a link okay and just for what it's worth before we continue. It is interesting to look at the recap like that. The references in the Song as explained by the Internet articles because Marilyn Monroe in the one thousand nine hundred fifty S. it is a statement about. It's not a death. It's like appeared in five films over the course of the nineteen fifties. So you can probably assume like rising star like worth a mention you know what I mean whereas with Joe Dimaggio. It's like he goes to five world series in the nineteen forties so while those things are comparable. But it's this idea of like somebody becoming a public figure and then choosing to put them in those two places will end the Marilyn Monroe mentioned is in the early verse in the forties verse. Not You know. It's not her death and the circumstances around her death right at it's not Marilyn Monroe. Joe Dimaggio were together then and then. She had other relationships right. He doesn't get into like Marilyn Monroe and Arthur Miller or whatever then so their placement in the song I think in the because it covers such a long span yes is is significant to interesting can free us. Yes speaking of which shall we free ourselves into the anything else that like? Well let's go through and then we can do a little bit of chatting about it and then called week great all right verse one. This was you this week. He started last. Okay Rob Manfred Insulin Robert durst vape pens big milk merger women soldiers save our BBC ghost ship apparition Russian fake facial recognition. Tomba caddy Miller wedding. Rafael tapestries. Apple CUTS MR SWIFT FIREFOX. Bar JUSTICE RIFT pure one broke. Whatsapp spies. Winter rain made waters rise tax reform. Postage Kutu Paramedical Tattoos Sucker burkina-fasso Charles portis good by Tuesday milkin. Blagojevich did Bartolo Care Rick. Mississippi SCOUTS BANKRUPTCY STONE DELAY BLOCKED. L. A. PUSHES BACK AT TRUMP. Malaysia's not your plastic dump Ashraf Ghani Bloomberg money. Who Tagged Plymouth? Rock HARRY STYLES BOOZE COSTS CALLING COPS for cell plan loss space x main poll union backers reach their goal gone in uni expose gun. Bill shot down envy a prompt picks in jet tricks laundering through the U. S. Wednesday pop. Smoke angry dens Dick Grenell. Mgm Land Mine in Yemen. Patient plays the Violin Rohrabacher Texture. All white pile up. Montreal cut copy Paste Guy Dies alien search intensify. He's about Powell old. Boneless thugs air. Do One Victoria secret. Olaf Palm Women's deaths in Mexico. Clearly racist fashion show gunmen. In Germany trump misusing clemency Jaguars Pine Island Flows. Bloomberg is Shit. Show all right forty months. Kashmir jail Sydney Melbourne train derails forever. Twenty one again. Unity in south Sudan migrant shift goes off the map NATO in corruption flap Irish PM stepping down Ethiopia gets back there crowned US comes firewalls style chases waterfalls China kick so WSJ. What else do I have to say? All right and then we have the Friday Saturday. Sunday ended up in verse. Friends back no carnival. Nasa says Goodbye South Pole K pop. Mubarak's Walk Weinstein. Jury deadlock hunts with pack pro Bloomberg twitter flat Flash Flood Indonesia Google sued for Kids Data Jet Crash Info one year late. Sanders wins the silver state wrestling in the Middle East swarm of forty thousand bees. Dick Van Dyke for Bernie Internment camps. Apology more election hack reports. I can't take it anymore. Yup good last verse Yeah this is the way to do it in a row centigrade we just split the last verse and the number of news stories really. I think this cascade issue of the show I do notice you have an increasing detachment towards pronunciation of words. There are a couple of times where it's like you feel forget. I know okay. Well it was really. It's not pronunciation. It's it's the rhythm it's like it's data you know it's just like that but the OPN like when. I do and I'm pronouncing their couple times. Where yeah it seems like the emphasis was shifted to allow for the story? Which is no that sucks. I admire you had a good syncopation in like the I I. I think the second half of the I I that was really good I just love. I used parody songs for no reason so I just love it. Fits the pocket putting on a pair of a glove that fits each finger so well of course. No I prefer it when it doesn't do that When it doesn't when it scans perfectly but you did something that was like very pleasing avenues. Syncope was it apple cuts Mr Smith. Fire no OAS Raphael Tapestries. Oh thank you it was. You did something with the fail. Tapestries Your L. In Monroe you did up up up up. Yeah that was that it was the trip. Let's not not syncopation. Yeah those cool all right. What else was great. I mean the first versus very good and you hit every individual. I think I definitely there were a couple of where I sacrificed. twenty-seven store. Oh sorry I should say I had that many to work with but ghost ship apparition Russian facial recognition was one of my favorite lines and as a result. I for Went Joe McCarthy Richard Nixon studebaker television. Oh yeah so there are moments where I and that was a question I was going to ask you about is like should we strive for that many and if we end up doing two fewer that fits within our new approach or should we sacrifice because I think it would have been. There are some stories that truly have too many syllables to sum up in a way that he's been indicative. So yeah that's the thing too. It's like some of them it's not about what's the most important story. Because if you like okay I should give me my shit. You know. A fourth of a verse. The impactful stories. Half OF AVERSE. And give them all the syllables. But it's it's not really about that. It's about the weirdness of the story of the difficulty to sum it up right. I knew syllables because some of the big news things. It's like outbreak. You could just say outbreak. Yeah we know what it's about. Yeah right but for example Russia Russian facial recognition. I there is truly. I could just say the word Russia or I could just say the word surveillance but to me. There's that what that says is Russia. The country has been implicated in yet. Another scandal or surveillance as a practice is still being deployed but because we live in a society because we live in like complicated times where things are aren't always what they seem like. It feels a little bit necessary to give minimum but enough parameters. This is a hundred percent agreeing with you. Yes nodding behind what I have find what I've found my doing what you find. I can't even pronounce words when I'm not doing the. We're not performing the song by the way we are exploring the verse structure with any any of them rhythm or the rhythm hopefully. Is there any? Melayu here is just accidental. Oh I did I was happy. I really liked union. Backers reach their goal for the picture that was that was fun cut copy and paste guys I should have done cut copy and paste guy dies cut copy and then Bloomberg is a shit show. Is that the whole mention. We have of the debate. I love angry DEM's so this was actually just for what it's worth. I was struggling because the Bloomberg the angry. Dem's felt like all right. That's that's says yet. Another debate but the thing that felt important to call out the I couldn't find in a rhyme space was Bloomberg answering two the NBA's felt like the thing to mention because it's like it was kind of huge culturally to hear someone answer for it publicly so so that was why I ended up saying Bloomberg Shit show because not only was he is he unfit to be present but his his the secrets that came out the day of the debate were like damning something. That's great so for this next week because I am traveling Abboud. Oh Yeah we'RE GONNA MAKE THAT. We totally set what we want it to be. And how it's GonNa work flow is we're GONNA mix it up a little bit gonNA share the dock early in the week and make sure working off the same things today. Today's Today's day before you leave and yes I will do Monday Tuesday. You will do Wednesday through Sunday and take you can take advantage of that same. Ask at any point in the future and then we'll record a little later in the week next time. Cool all right Sam thanks. That was week seven. We've been doing this. We've seven times and let's do it in eighth through fifty Antezana related to this. You want to keep doing it for now. Okay all right. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week.
Ep. 19| Let's Get This Shindig Started
"Hey everyone it's tailor your DM Laura Master. Thank you for listening to episode nineteen of the Tantalus Tales If this is your first time listening to US I do want to recommend that you start with episode one nome sweet. No if you'd like to listen to our show memento style I will not stop you however this episode does Spoil Things for chapter three as well as to end one technically. So here's your warning enjoy episode. Nineteen previously on the TANTALUS Tales. Let me get this straight you. You hear this click you try to dodge who fail and then your immediate instinct is to just jump over the counter iron. What's IT calls it? Yeah that's what they call them. Yes where iron nights there and what calls yes the iron. What's it causes in reverse that the West Pentagon on your map is a cleric shop. A Holy Doing Heralds Holy Hailing Hut L. at any Much Liberation is definitely deserving visit. I'll just Iraq down. See how Fargo's I'm GONNA listen to. Mci Did you throw it. All of these cages also have figures in them and as he walked through the door. Yaeko gasps because in each of these cages is a phillips ranging from for a white for Brown for Ginger calicoes from all of the different tribes. There are all these feelings that are locked in these cages. There anything you guys want to do with the Felix letter trapped. Undo the Ibiza. Step from from big brother. Okay so as you Pull out the. Iv from the The Felix's arm on the table. There's an alarm that begins to sound all check. We'll put that back end a tie. Yeah outside it just crumbles into hunk of metal on the ground and the red are just kind of dissipates into the air. And congratulations you guys. You have defeated a helmed. Hor Yaeko is trying to wake up his brother on the ground and amidst the worrying of the machines on the wall. you hear that. Ting of the metal armor on the ground cooling down on the ground gyanco is shaking his brother in an attempt to wake him up. He puts his ear to his chest checking for signs of life. Then a look of relief falls over his face hearing a heartbeat and Janka says he's alive. He just seemed to be knocked out. Maybe that's what they were pumping into him. He looks around all the caged Felix's and He grabs a glass beaker on the table. That has a strange liquid inside and turns to you guys and asked what do you think? This place is Experimental place pet. Taxidermy pets taxidermy. Okay very possible. Yeah so While you guys are talking about what what you think this place is I suppose I want you to roll me a perception check fifteen nine nine nine. Okay well at least run of you then Here's a A subtle clicking noise and a rush of air Passes by you and as you look towards Gyanco you see him frozen in fear. There's a a metal crossbow bolt inches away from his face. The the glass container. He picked up from. The table is suspended in the air mid drop and glancing around. You notice that each one of you has a metal bolt near your face and the machine. You notice has stopped wearing the alarm stopped. Everything is still in quiet. What do you do this kind of step? This sad a little bit. Yeah I'd also like to just step aside a little bit. I wanted to step closer. I'm just giving touch move my head to the side. Kinda poke to see what happens as you poke the Arrow at it moves slightly but it just stays in mid air and as you guys are looking at the situation You hear from behind you while Hello Boys. I'm not interrupting anything. Am I from behind you? Vern steps out of the shadows and ups up to you and What do you do? What THE PASSWORD. Vern he He laughs and and snaps his fingers and is holding your glamour flash BELT IN HIS HANDS You're you're playing solve anything to make my pants. Follow Hanson me chanceless Coyne. I'm sorry send me money with your much. Send you the cars line though only believes it's ver- and if he sends you money he'd have vern wouldn't have to watch you guys all have the watches this the spider spider Calms you guys? All have spider comes. Vern doesn't yeah. The spider calms. He's not or wristwatches. If that's what you really want us want to call it cool yeah. The cool walkie talkies on your wrist in the form of a spider. Now really what I have mildew vern walks over to Orangeville and pulls up his pants forum and Click says clicks. His fingers again. I was oddly unnecessary but can the camouflage belt snakes. It's way back into your Your belt loops inside. Jeez around me cheese. You're caught with your pants down and now there's been snacking up. Now there's a there's a snake in your boots not my best moment. It's hard to look tough pulling your pants. Okay yeah for sure he he laughs and his like. Do you believe me now. Sure but he Looks over at Yanko and and oh I forgot he was with you. He'll be all right though he he's I've frozen time in this plane of existence as long as I will it? It'll remain so but as for you for. I require assistance. I didn't think I'd have to call upon my favors so soon but I'm afraid something has come up. An associate of mine tasked with retrieving. Certain item for me has run into some issues and needs assistance. I thought perhaps you three would be up for a bit of an adventure. Totally we can. All Go. Ice Can stay here handle omission himself. No problem generally talk goes. This is a fair return. We get award after. No I mean you got your Your your payment. Yeah but yeah when Fred Asks for help you help them when a friend asked her helps you you you do. It sounds more like a favor already helped us remember so we have come back. I worked okay so he He smiles at you and he says I'm glad you agree. Follow me. He snaps his fingers again and a doorway in the shadows opens. He holds out his hand. And ushers you through. What do you call this thing? Shore a shadow or yes is a patented Vernon Shadow for like one myself someday. Looks cool except find again when I close it? Yeah that is it is the unfortunately a shadow or there could be shadows all over and you would never know why he goes to the fridge all the time and then you open the door and like I feel like I'm missing something. I remember when I got here. That's why you go to the fridge. And that's why when you walk in the room when you're like why did I come in here again Gotcha okay but He ushers through and as you pass through the door you find yourself in a swirling psychedelic space where you appear to be walking on some invisible flooring colors lights and shadows all dance around you in the side of salon here right some relates the based drops. And you suddenly just fall through this. It's like it's like the The boat ride and Willie Wonka over the base drop. Yeah Yeah Yeah exactly but Colors lights and shadows all dance around in the void and as Verne follows you through the doorway he snaps again and the door shuts behind him. He says welcome to my void. It's an oasis of space and time existing outside even the fractured space. It's like my own little home away from home. He waves his hand in a a long rack of clothing apparel zooms into existence. I guess he's not that concerned about you know a furnishing the place when he not when he can Snap his fingers. Have Anything Appear Car Toys and snap his fingers and see what happens? You snap your fingers and your index finger and thumb. Just kinda start floating in space. A nice needed that I needed them. he He swirls his hand. Reattached your finger and thumb thank. You don't go stop going to pieces on us there bacar. Geez we need your help. I have never been back to fall for one whole person in a while. I just I think I just cut my finger on the edginess of that comment. You just sent album cars and edge. Lord got it. He's always been a bit of an edge floored but now he's in the trucking bastards sage at Lord. Miss have you drank anything in the last like However Long Hey. He doesn't drink on Joe. He doesn't drink on the job. Okay well that's good to know I'll keep that in mind. Also drink offered then he will drink on the job you know as long as nothing's given to him you won't drink it's like ours. Nope NOPE nope all right. But so asi waves this this rack of clothing and apparel into existence very much like that scene in the Matrix. When neo and morpheus suiting up for our well no neo and trinity at that point. Oh Yeah Okay Yeah Although I think those were guns that they were doing that. Yeah Yeah Yeah. So you have this this long rack of different costumes and stuff and he says before we get started you for going to need disguises. Where you're going is in a perpetual state of hallows eve so if you if you aren't dressed up in something you may get some unwanted attention from the locals what would you. What would you up as well? I will be taking an all silver suit. Please with a wolf's head mask please where they wolf's head mask all right all right He door with feather on it so a so Canada silver pimple. Yeah with like along the along coat sorting long coat all right so he Waves his hand and The clothing all shuffles and in front of you is a on a on. A hanger has a Nice Silver Suits With a with a I I I would assume you're going with purple again since you seem to enjoy that color for Hat's what yeah all right. A big a big pink feather on it. Oh yeah yeah a little bit of Zebra Leopard print black and white leopard prints on the on the rim. What else is there? Yeah you know you could have gone with that. I'm a Silver Fox and it would have been so a care does old enough for that now. He's only like a hundred and fifty. Geez I was actually an anger. I can't do it well. You should have spoke up sooner. I fail well he Waves his hand again and a small Mike Thirties. Forties style Beach on Dressing Room. Pops up off to the side and he offers you a place to change about you. If you are modest is not really but I'll take up Janis and we all know cars that modest. That's why he didn't make one for you. He turns to the car and asked what. What would you like? I would like M. Major outage except make it all red red major outfit now major allred. Who a major. That's all read He he Waves his hand and the clothing rack. Again Shuffles and in front of you is a is a wizard robe but it's in a a major row. Excuse me But it's more is more velvety and and has a a nice nice collartoo it and inside one of the yeah in one in one of the pockets is a smoking pipe and curled up in the other pocket is a a newspaper has it is a a major that is all red and can. I have a walking stick Yeah sure he flexes wrist a bit in a bucket of Different walking stabs in such pop up in front of you and he offers you the pick of the litter. Is there one with a sort? It just comes out. There can be Sword Kane Kane the pipe as you As you look at it you realize it's it's dripping with a bit of liquid and if you if you blow on it bubbles bubbling out of it and say bubble pipes right child. Car May be older than he is still a child so you are So you have a well. A major that is that is all red our ad he He chuckles at his own joke and turns to ice tea. And this is what would you like? Well or conflicted his. He doesn't want to dress up So how fancy fancy at all he'd be a squid wall. Here's kind of what we were thinking. I want to be dressed up as a giant in. He'll be a full-sized Dragon. Okay So he ponders for a second And says I've got it and he He snaps his fingers and the clothing. Racks shuffle. Once more and comes a uniform for the New York Giants Yep God why do you read my mind fuck you sure as shit a A in front of you as a Jersey with On the back it says giants and at this point I have no idea what else no on the back. It says giants and T so t n it is a it is a One fourth instead of a number. And so you've got a Jersey has got a nice little nestle hats to it and Cleats and whatnot so you are dressed as a a New York giant. Can He have a helmet? Can he had a helmet? You have a helmet all right. Yeah sure well. He's GonNa have a batting helmet. I want just like a baseball cap. Oh this is for both of you. Yeah we chain okay. You both want you both want to be giant. Yeah okay so Vern waves his hand in a small batting. Helmet appears in front of you in your in your palm and you can attach it as you wish onto ice and also a small bat little tiny little slugger tiny Louisville slugger on it. Then it's it's it's a slug. Yes say tiny slug in the form of a bat. They petrified slug But Yeah so you guys are all dressed then in your silver pimple Your well read my mask. I have is like DNC my face through it. It's kind of like a so. It's like a Mascot Man. Kinda like a like a hood. So it's got like a wolf's snout like over my face like that you see my face okay that works and we've got T. dressed as a giant a beautiful. I love it. He says excellent now he snaps his fingers and The rack of clothing dicit disappears into the void. And he says I'm going to take you to the world of graves. Deep in the center of this grave. World is the item. I'm looking for I need you find nick. He is currently locked in combat with the locals the general populace they tend to be rather friendly but as you get closer to the item in question. They begin to get very protective and then under his under his breath he States it may or may not be the keystone of their religion or time to convey not wall take that bet may or may not yes and he says however I need you to assist. Nick in retrieving the necklace in the center of the catacombs under a mausoleum. Once you have the necklace escaped the catacombs and get above ground. Then all evacuate out here He hands you. A scroll with a crudely drawn map of the catacombs below the Muse mausoleum. Excuse me and I'll drop that in here. Quick for Ya and can create anything with snap his fingers and he used crayons to make this map. Okay he did he did. He used crayons. So there is your Crudely drawn scroll map of the so we have to go to every spot except for the star place to make sure we have everything Yes the the star is where you're going in. The Red Arrow is where you will enter in get richer for short split up all right so He gives you the scroll and he Waves his hand once more and produces a small device. It's got an antenna on it and a button on it side. He says once you're back on the surface hit this button and I can lock onto its signal to get you out. I'm afraid my magic doesn't work so well on this world so I'll only be able to drop you off and retrieve you using this beacon. Have you got any questions? He says very well and snaps his fingers once more and below each of you a hole opens up and you drop through the void and pop up in a dark. Realm is lit by torches atop wrought iron polls. There are gourds carved in varieties of different terrifying faces in statues frozen in time. Some rain some holding their hands to the sky. It as you look around you see gravestones in different statues peppering the landscape as far as your eyes can see a grave near. You has flowers and small traits place at its base. You can hear music in the distance. Say Spooky tune to celebrate hollows eve in the distance. There are figures in different costumes going grave to grave and leaving trinkets to the north of your location. You see a giant mausoleum in the faint clang of metal on metal coming from that direction. What do you do? It's gamma. I think you're right? Aubrey Yep Read the Group. The crepes start walking towards it. What would you like to do? I'm sorry well the start walking towards it and then we'll play the game where you just you try to find a name within the tombstones. Try to find a name within the tombstones. Yeah I bet it can find someone with Baba's their name ever finds on I ask you look around at the graves. The first grave you find actually says here lies Bob. You Win the honor of being point it going. You're the vanguard isn't Bacar always the vanguard. Yep but this time it's for serious. Let's go head on North near all right. So as you head. North toward the sound the spooky music begins to fade in the distance and the wind begins to pick up. It sounds like wailing as it chills you to your very bones around the Masa whalers on them. No I'd wailers out their their whaling right now. Yeah they're they're all they're all whaling. It's a bunch of wailing monks just walking around as you get closer to the mausoleum you notice a thick iron gate surrounding it and the the entrance is ajar. Then the front gate is ajar. There are on the inside of the gate skeletons. Littering the entrance or weapons dug into the ground chips of stone broken off of the mausoleum and the dirty grass all stops down around it. There was clearly a fight happening here. What would you like to do? This is a trap on. This is the skeleton wars. It's never stopped before. It is never stopped you before yes. Albany stress. Open the game so you guys pass through the gate then to walk through the gate. The wind stops as if you're passing through a field of magic. You feel slightly warmer as the biting wind is no longer at your heels. I want you to roll me. Perception check twenty three of no eight seven twenty. Okay so yeah as you guys are in the front courtyard of this mausoleum. You notice one of the skeletons. Next to the entrance begins to shake and shudder as it reassembles itself and begins to stand up it pulls a short sword from its ribcage and brandishes that you since you scored so high on your perception check. You also notice out of the corner of your eye. Several of the other skeletons all reassembling themselves and Standing Upright grabbing Weapons from the ground and inching closer toward you. I want you to Roll for initiative for me. Hey everyone it's Taylor again. I just want to thank you again for tuning into episode nineteen of the Tantalus sales and also to apologize for the length of time in between episode eighteen and nineteen Life happened but I think I've got everything. In order to get you all set for the next several episodes. I've got I believe eight in the chamber now So look forward to more We will soon be recording the first episode of chapter four and. I'm really excited to see how that one goes. Because I think you all will like it also before I get back into the action I do want to thank all of our patriots especially those that continued to pay throughout Hard dry spell as it was these couple of months It really helped keep The Lights on essentially with all the the podcast stuff and if you also would like to assist that way you can find us on Patriots Fan or just sherice. Get more people to view us. It means the world to me to see people talking about our show and I. It really makes me happy. So thank you all but we're going to drop you back in to the action. I will see you again at the end. Thank you they think twelve you think project initiative says. I went from a very unlucky number one. I can't roll one's sixteen high. I went to an Tony. I'm sorry what did you go to God? Net Twenty you in from a net one to enact twenty fantastic so or an Bakar and then Skeletons will take up the rear since they are indeed skeletons and a little slower So t you have around you. Eight skeletons brandishing. Their weapons at you and looking menacingly they are the the vanguard of the Maza. Liam they protect the entrance. Obviously not particularly well if somebody has already beaten them and gotten through but not just you want to sprint now. Now if we we just sprinted across maybe billing just run around the mausoleum having them chase you. Yeah this is the type of Boss battle where you just run away and then when they get tired you smack them with any run way and then you smack them and write whatever you would like but t- What do you WANNA do Prepare I'M GONNA CAST ARMOR SH- shadows? Okay which is Major Armor Okay so As you sit there and you conjure up this this armor it Manifesto on your body as catchers padding so you get a little added protection with With your slightly pulsating shadow catchers armor. Is that all you're GONNA do for your turn. Yeah okay so then. What would you like to do I'M NOT SURE OF ARROWS. Will hurt these guys. Right through new possibilities. Swipe One's head off with my short sword came back. Cut Him in half diagonally along his torso. Okay go ahead and roll roll in a fifteen. That will hit them. Goodness let me see. What do I all right diet? Short sword roles six right I believe yours is yes plus to get seven total on that seven. Total damage okay. It's plus one sort sword. Then there's another effect that gives me extra damage to I wrote down here to hit. Call it a sex. Just call the sex damage so you take a swing at one of the skeletons with your short sword. Straight DOWN THE MIDDLE. You said no Diagonally like shoulder to shoulder to head. So you're attempting to take its head off. No ch cut like like from the upper shoulders. Like right through this The center of his torso like diagonally. Diagonally okay cool cool cool And so you It it slices across tits fronts and Kinda just glances off of it. It hurt it nearly as much. So you do Three damage to it Well she didn't do much shit. Get another attack. Well I guess I don't know that won't work on this attack the same one. Try AND TAKE OFFICE. Time if anything different. Sure they Fourteen fourteen. We'll hit it. Got A for that time for damage. Four okay so then As you Swing and try and take off. It's added as you hit it. It it's head spins around comically and It looks back at you and even though it doesn't have eyeballs. It looked dazed because it just spun around and you do To damage to it. Not a winning strategy here. I don't think somebody else to do. I believe that spoke of your action script. Turn it on. Yeah Okay Bakar. I'm going to say boo. And then they trickery same hold up my bag and hope they put tricks After you hold they put treats not tricks. Yeah okay try to say trick and treat at the same time so you hold out a bag and you say trick or treat to these Skeletons who are very clearly menacing toward you. They paused for a second. And look at the bag and look at each other and then look back at you and then inch closer at you. Confused and mad. You still have one more action I guess I'll go after them and attack the one that's supposed to me hit I that doesn't sound great. That one that one all right Go ahead and roll me. A what is what is your Long Sword do for damages at a d a D eight plus one four plus five Extra damage for or the when horthy radiant damage. Okay go ahead and roll a D eight for me. Eight of shit all right. So what's the opposite of that is the opposite of what you probably wanted. Yeah so you After two manding treats or tricks take your take your a long sort of daylight savings and You brandish it up above your head and new Slam it down into the ribcage of skeletons and it breaks a couple of the ribs but you're sort is lodged into his ribcage so tend to use my. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa do a little bit of damage on that for the skeleton but you are missing your Long Sword for the moment I have to take action to try and get it out but now the skeleton stern and I'm actually going to have them role since there are Eight of them and three of you have the. Nf pairs of them The two that have been damaged. I won't Attack Right now but The two two of them are going after but car and they get A. Oh No that is not gonNA HIT. They are both going to swing and miss it. You Bacar as you dodge out of the way since you're embarrassing. Don't worry about it. You good tell me about sticks and stones and We're TURT- forever Lou service decry the other to attack Orrin and does a sixteen hit you not quite not quite okay perfect So they swing at you and you jump out of the way of their Scary Spooky NECE and O T that is definitely going to miss you Three does not hit your beefed up armored glass right no Kazoo goods. So they They all swing and miss at you with their Their broken dilapidated weapons and As backup to T- they're gonNA get scolded later. You know all this terrible performance. This time for a little brawling Bra that scrap. I'm also GONNA help out car here so I'm gonNA run and hunched a skeleton. Her sorenson in riazan lunch. I'M GONNA actually elders blasts instead. Okay go ahead Sixteen that will hit Seventeen damage seventeen damage so Our little little giant inheriting quarterback. That's him yeah. Think that's sports right. Yeah touchdown that's for sure. He's going to get a touchdown So you you square up with your fist and punch ads The the ribcage of the Skeleton who's got cars sword lodged into it. And as you punch you. Just kind of blast off and eldridge blast into its Process and adjust. Oh liberates the mother. Fucker and But cars sword flies through the air and lands Soared into the ground Behind you guys so all you need to pick it up on your turn Bacar. You are down one skeleton. There are seven more in only one of them. Only one of them has damage on them. Now of course got to socialize. I really don't think they should Oregon. What would you like to do well? Let's see I am going to do is throw tear wound Zipcar. Wait see it hurt at all No I'm sorry I wasn't thinking sorry because there's no need to do that. Then Yup my fix that not enough magic in the world car and do that. Sorry right sore didn't do much. I'M GONNA try at one shot with my bow. Okay so you're going to go for the already damaged. Yes okay go ahead. Role was only fourteen. The role was fourteen. I go tie goes to the attacker right but I think so. Ty goes the attacker right usually tigers. The defender isn't it. Apparently we've been doing it wrong. I was just informed yet. I was just informed last night. Apparently that is tie goes to the attacker. Okay all right so do I to me too I damage. Da got eight damage lightning damage. I got to ten. Two ten. Total yet is wonderful you Knocked Back Your A. You're a bow of electric blue balloons and Just off this This electrified Arrow into the socket of the skeleton. And as it just completely electrifies it looks like it looks like when you electrify a cartoon and it skeleton shows and then it just kind of to dust down onto the ground. So you've destroyed your second skeleton for the evening and you still have one more Attack right well no no sense. Hold back on it through another and another one and undamaged. One they're ones. Yep I'm sorry is there to me right Yes well then I'll throw one Herlin Arrow at one of them. Okay perfect was only thirteen. I was thirteen. That will not hit. You you shoot off your Arrow and in it snakes right through the The ribcage the third and fourth rib ribbon me on that are you Gosh I thought it was humorous. Yeah all right Hopefully book what are you GonNa do? I'll go and pick up my soda and then go after the closest golden again. I don't WanNA lose it again. But is twenty two twenty two hit yup nine damage nine own. Yeah and that's true. That's rating damage. I don't know that hurt scales. Install three of. That is radiant. Okay so that would be six damage. Altogether Nice You go to attack it and As your Sword connects with you A bit of Holy Light Burns into the skeletal bones and you you It it ignites slightly just sparking As you hit it because Radiance against skeletons does an all right job negate the the slashing stuff to it so and that is your only attack because he had to use an action to pick up your sword so the there are six skeletons remaining. And so they'll do again the Attacking each person Separately Bacar That will not hit you at all. That is an eight Orrin attend does not hit you. Don't know and he that definitely doesn't hit you. That is a two so they do not hit you once. More they They all Kinda swing at you and and and they're slow enough that you are able enough to dodge the kind of my when I when I see them swinging. I picture like the old-timey stop at a stop motion. Skeletal things like clash of the titans things like that so they just Kinda J- Jolie in their movements but a backup to t- what are you GonNa do with your skeletons. You've got one damaged near Your Orrin and Five that are not I think up to an undamaged one. Okay and the brawling spirit. I'M GONNA run up. They're going to what I'm sorry. The brawling spirit and. I'm GONNA eldridge blasted a wrong direction in backhanded in the face. Oh so you're using your eldridge blast to Propel a bitch slap correct nice. I like the powered slap. So you really channeling like a Joe Dimaggio in this Creeks ALL RIGHT. Go ahead. That's a seventeen seventeen. That'll hit. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa give you your elders blast damage. Because I think that's all right twenty-three torchy's all right so as you a thames. Nice Nice so as you run up to the skeleton. Do you have any witty retort as you go to backslap him? Damn no no I do not need. Don't have any any any bone puns. Nope sadness so you run up. You run up to this the skeleton and you as a guy swear I had something for this and you just pop off an blast out of your palm in it. Rockets rockets your The back of your hand across its face and it in its head spins and just POPs literally off and off into the distance and it just kind of falls to the ground and good time to lose one's head. Hey go there's a there's a knock out one of the other skeletons so there are five remaining. One is damaged and is now orange. Turn all right can hear the throat. Let's see shoot an Arrow at one undamaged one. That is an eight. That's no good. That one is not gonNa hit you. also shoot your Arrow through this one's at seventh and eighth rib and try it one more try seventeen bat one will hit and this was against the damage one or an undamaged okay. Ten damage total ten damage. Total all right so as you Just send this This arrowhead it lodges into Between it's FIBIA Tibia and just shocks it and it falls to the ground momentarily and shakily stands back. It is looking very very worse off. It is shaking and shuddering in a in the night But Yeah so you've got to damaged ones and three remaining undamaged ones but car. What would you like to do? I'll just keep attacking on these very spooky scary skeletons. Scary Spooky skeletons. Perfect Spooky scary scaling his but My roommate called me skeleton so his skeleton really. That'd be a ten ten. That will not hit their goal. Why are you doing this to me? Is Eleven also will miss so you You run up to a couple of skeletons. And maybe maybe you're just Shivering and fright and you Miss Right bought swing ripe. I am each one missing. I don't know if you just feel akin to them because you're called skeleton. Just just don't feel like hitting it and I'm so sorry skeleton. You're so his all right but Then it is the skeletons turn again and there is enough to still do that. Only one attacks but car in that is that is a net. Twenty one of them Looks to you. And that is a six damage you take. I feel that you take you. Take a you take a a broken short sword across the the the chest from one of the skeletons and then Orrin Woo that is an eighteen does hit you. Eighteen will hit you for Four damaged the the two skeletons Raise up behind you and both slash one at your front and one at your back for a couple damage apiece for four damage and Does a seventeen hitter beefed up armor class T- high yeses. That does okay. So the two remaining hoof will Attack you for eight damage altogether. That's not cool. Yeah they actually did some damage against you rebuke you can. I'd like to do that. That work on both of them seem only one probably okay by all means rebuke them hellishly. You must make extensive in jail. A decks save perfect straight up. Whatever it is that is a nineteen. Okay you win you win. Do you'll take half damage half damage oak. It'll be ten ten by all right so after being attacked by this skeleton you turn around and just give them a nasty nasty Look and Fling him through the the bowels of Hell and as he returns. He is slightly charred and shaking Barely holding onto his Mero but not not dead yet are not not beaten yet close So it is now actually your turn. T what would you like to Well shoot yeah. I'm just GONNA straight onto this time. Okay Chart Guy on the chart one yup sharp Nineteen that will hit him for damage. Four damage perfect So you After sending him through hell as he comes back he shuttering in that that moment of hesitation that he has you. You see your opportunities line and just teaches just jump up and clothesline added neck and it just knocks it to the ground and as it hits the ground just shatters into a ashen charred pieces of of bone. And you're down to four of the skeletons. Orrin what would you like to do? You got To damage to undamaged. Well I'M GONNA make a physical. You know what I'm GonNa do what he did. And I throw a punch at each one of one in punching another like I've been boned up and how to fight you guys all right go ahead. Do you have so humorous. We've already made the humorous joke go ahead With a with a straight punch. We'll just go your strength. Fifteen fifteen hit at a D. tended role for that or what D- Eight What is your Bodus I use D eight and D Four D. We'll do that. We'll we'll do a decent because it's Just just your unarmored for the first one. Okay now for the second attack the other guy Twenty eight nineteen nineteen hit and five damaged on the second one in your first attack you wind up and and you you punch at this the skeleton and you you hit him in the face hard enough that it cracks his Skull a little bit and it Kinda just Heaton cases your hand for a second and then you turn it end with the skull in your hand. on your hand you punch the Second. Salatin and in doing so does a little extra damage. So you've knocked out one of them and one is holding on to dear life In just Kinda like cracking. Its skull is fractured and just kind of barely holding on So there is one very close to being done and to undamaged Remaining but car. Would you like to do ticket? You'll attack the damaged one or the undamaged wants. That's fine okay. Damage Nineteen Nineteen. That will hit him. How image history radiant twelve damage plus three? That would be fifteen damage. You take your Medieval lightsaber and slash down at this This damaged fo. And as as you hit it like connects in a spot that's already cracked. So it. Just kinda slices through the The skull and it just breaks down so you have two remaining Skeletons both are undamaged. That was my sword. Skulls your souls your source codes. Take harder now okay. Then you don't have to make You've got one more attack. Would you like Zubec- go after another one? I'll be twenty. That's GonNa hit nine damage a rural nine damage over always the radiant on it so You swing at one of the other remaining skeletons and You a clear that it knocking off one of its arms. Not The arm. That has the sword in it. But you knock off one of the arms and So he was both disarmed and not disarmed right. Yes disowned but not on a yeah. Yeah he's still armed and dangerous. He's he's partially armed and dangerous. Yes but then the two remaining the damaged one will swing his sword at Bakar That is a nineteen. Does that hit your arm class yet. It ties with it so then Damage to the attacker for a wapping three damage to you and hurt hurt yet. You seem seem very damaged now Oh my God also hit points off and then the other one we're GONNA go for Or and that's GonNa Miss Ya. Seven doesn't hit your armor class. Oh wait maybe it did. Let me just check my. She course it didn't hit it so it swings at Oran Oran deftly dodges out of the way Then it is up to t- what are you got one a damaged skeleton in one undamaged all. I'm a team player for them to win. Okay I'M GONNA go and slide tackle into the undamaged skeletons ankles okay. So you're just GonNa Pronin. Yeah we'll do we'll do that a grappling we'll do Strength to strength. Go ahead and roll your D Twenty for strength sixteen. Who definitely does not beat him. So you slide into home being His ankles and a knock him to the ground. He Hits the ground and his broken sword. scatters away. So he is armed disarmed as well And we'll say the fall damage gave him a couple couple Couple off there so it is Or an stern you gotta you gotta prone on the ground and a dash up to the pro and kick his head off. You'RE GONNA kick his head off all right into it like hunter like Fridley fricken Palay and for the goal by all means. Go enroll for it right nineteen. Oh I was so hoping we're going to get a net one there and kick T- instead One thousand nine hundred. Yeah go ahead and roll. Roll is six from a date. That is a six all right so You knock its head off But its arms are still wailing about on the ground. It is not finished yet. It's it's hit want. It wants to find its head well. It doesn't want to get ahead and lie right so you do have another attack. What would you like to show? They say he's they're they're really just a skeleton crew yup off left all right Take the take like a wait. Can I pick up like part of another skills and hit this one with it very well? Could all right. I'm GONNA do that. Describe like a femur something just like wall up this thing is like ribcage trying to break it. Okay go ahead roll for damage our role for attack it thing Hit is fifteen fifteen fifteen hit the same. Da For this or lease Yeah Da. It's fine for that one point six. Sorry that's five. Five down five okay So in your best impersonation of one of the apes in front of the obelisk thinking you take this. Take a motherfucker and you take a mother fucker and beat him with another mother fucker. Yes and you slam down this femur onto his ribcage and just shatters it so you guys are down to the last remaining skeleton that is also one arm and a broken short sword in that arm car. What would you like to do? That was to be less. Tibula cheeses after another one she's GonNa hit was three rating damage Yeah you choke up on your Your Long Sword and you take take a nice step in swing and just slash right through. Its right through the site of Sight OF ITS CHEST AND CLEVELAND CLEANING HALF as it falls to the ground and just breaks into however many bones are human body in sixth. Yeah that one sure that sounds right. Overtake your missing at least a few. Because it's arm has gone but but Yeah so you guys have Defeated the vanguard of skeletons outside the mausoleum. Congratulations what would you like to do? You're at the entrance to the mausoleum and the catacombs below liking. It collect candy. Feel like you need to collect candy. There isn't any. I'm sad well where we can go down this mausoleum nice place for you to cry. Let's go grab their legs and start. Digging excited. That shindig started God. That was horrible and I love fantastic. Hey everyone thank you so much for listening to episode. Nineteen of the Tantalus Tales. Let's get this Shindig started. It has taken me to get this one out but I hope you enjoyed it episode twenty. 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