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269: Maximally Thin, With Special Guest Casey Johnston

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269: Maximally Thin, With Special Guest Casey Johnston

"Everybody it's your Internet Pal. John Gruber I've got some good news and some bad news. The good news. I I have an amazing guest. Casey Johnston who has done more writing and great writing about the saga of the Butterfly Switch macbook keyboards than anybody else on the Internet. And we're here to talk all about the new sixteen inch macbook pro and and it's all new keyboard designed so that's the good news. The bad news as that. I recorded show using my review unit sixteen inch macbook pro and to connect it to my regular alert microphone I had to use a US USPA dangle and I think something went wrong there And My side of the audio has a bit of static And we're doing our best to mitigate it in post but you're going to hear it I think and I'm just telling you up front that you don't have to let me know I'm really sorry about it. Nobody feels worse about this than me. I really do but you don't have to let me know. And here's the weird part. I can't explain it. I'm recording this. Preamble where I don't have the static nick using the exact same microphone setup that had the static when I recorded. Casey can't explain it. It's some kind of thing I don't know if I didn't have the USB cable all the way in or what the Heck I did wrong. Can't explain it. Sorry on with Joe Casey Johnson and welcome to the talk show. Thank you excited. It's a big week for you. I mean I guess yes it is this. This is a combination of years of complaining and effort on my part so i. I can't believe that anybody listening doesn't know but for anybody who doesn't know Casey while employed at the outline wrote. I think all of the stuff on the keyboard was from your time. No actually the first time I wrote about it. I was not yet working there. That was it was like maybe four or five months before but it was it published at the. I don't want her as a freelancer and it was headline the new macbook pro. The new MAC book keyboard is ruining my life. I mean it was no it really was and sort of continues even today even this week at work when trying to use a actually a different computer but same same style keyboard continues to run my own because you are a professional writer and most professional writers do a fair amount of typing on kids. And I'm right here so it's like in a in a way the stakes are even higher. Because it's my job to make sure everything's correct but with these keyboards I'm out here. Introducing errors constantly. But I really do think so. The big news everybody listening by now obviously knows apple released the new sixteen inch macbook pro which replaces the old fifteen inch. It's just slightly bigger. So they gave it a new number for the size of the screen diagonal and it has an all new keyboard designed you. I think. Think along with Joanna Stern. I would say that you enjoy and start really led the way on the writing about this keyboard over the years and there is a sort of emperor has no clothes angle to it. where it's like? I feel like ultimately the bottom line of your writing about the issues. This keyboard is garbage. I mean little. You said it ruined your life yes I mean. It's it's tough because you can't like the keyboard was was. The style of keyboard was out for a couple of years before I even got a hold of it let alone wrote about it So it was like there was has some negative feedback about it. But I think it really didn't gain any critical mass because no one really i. I don't think it's not like no one bought the original MAC book. No modifier the teeny tiny one with the super super shallow keys So it didn't I. I think the no-one no-one was out there like Trying to amass the negative feedback into one place and be like wait. This is actually kind of bad It it was only when it started to proliferate out to the The pro line and then eventually the airline much later that I think people are that I that I sort of came to it and was like this is. There's a trend here. This is bad and it seems like it has been bad and just no one saying anything in a very strange way and it was hard because Lake Apple and various people various owners of these computers would sort of continue you to insist that it was like quote unquote user error or like an extreme minority of people who are having this problem But just the ease with which I was seeming to. have it like without really doing much wrong or anything differently than I had with. Any other computer Really involved a Yeah it was a real like there. There are four lights moment now. It's like I know my own truth here. It's two things there's the what if the keyboard the butterfly switch keyboard which as you said was introduced with teeny tiny me macbook with the no adjective after its name. That is now out of the lineup. Now Yeah Yeah. But then now with the air or they've They've they've taken it out and you could kind of understand why they went went to it because that was such teeny tiny computer so emphasis you know so much emphasis on being a super small didn't even have fan fan system. It used a chipset that you you know wouldn't ever get hot enough to require fan so there just wasn't room for a bigger keyboard with traditional travel blah blah. It and then they use that keyboard eventually expanded to the whole line with whatever mechanical differences when the computers got bigger whether you liked it or not is one thing when it functioned completely as design is and I never loved it but I didn't hate it. It's that was always. My impression of the bigger problem was for a lot of people. It tended to develop multiple types of problems. One problem would be keys. That stopped work. And let's say you go to type in e. and no e would appear onscreen or you'd go what a type of space and nothing would appear and the other problem people had was the opposite where you would type a key and you get two of them instead of one. That was the biggest thing for sure. Sure I mean like the interesting thing. Is that those those Mac book sands modifiers were not really made for people who like used computers much at all. It seemed like it because they were so underpowered and just like they couldn't. They couldn't do anything if I recall they couldn't even have very many browser tabs open. They were almost like chromebooks. So it's like like for for values of that person. It seemed like maybe the keyboard actually was that bad. Because it's like you never really like take your computer outside of a single room in your house whilst you never carry it around you never really open it when you open it you use it for like maybe fifteen minutes at a time like for those people that actually might have been fine. It only had one port which was which was one of the limiting factors for people who didn't really need a computer at all. So that's why it takes. It took so long for the keyboard issues to emerge. But unless what I'm trying to say is The keyboards like I remember. Trying them in store when I went to go be like I was like I had heard the keys. Were not great. I think I had tried. Try them on the macbook and felt it was too shallow. Just didn't feel great and I wanted to wait and see what happened. Even though it was kind of due for a new computer I was like in the market So when I went to the apple store and I tried it there was a little bit more travel and I was like Oh. This isn't so bad like you can at least feel something and like it's pretty responsive And it kind of feels nice to type on but the Nice Taipan feeling went away so so quickly because of the lake. I assumed the dust problem that it just just anything getting in there would the the sort of drop off point from the pristine state in which typing felt good to the slightly less good state in which typing felt terrible. It was a very shallow sort of Amount of travel unintended from from the one to the other so it just quickly became bad. And it's so it's hard for me to say like whether actually likes the keyboard keyboard like the keyboard and the pristine state actually. Didn't mind it so much It was a little. It was a little like not a satisfying like a mechanical keyboard. Obviously but it was it was fine but the normalcy of the it's like what is the normal state of keyboard then if you can't even sustain the sort of pristine state where the typing was at least you could you could ignore it like it wasn't it wasn't a significant factor. I came mm-hmm around on this and I personally never bought a Mac book with one of those keyboards. I'm the one that I still at Twenty fifteen manage to latte stick with the market but the nature of my job is that I have reviewed various of these models over over that period for like six weeks at a time and with a Mac book and iphones in particular it is. I'M NOT GONNA say it's easy to review them but but it's kind of the technique is easy is I put all of my stuff on and just use it fulltime and the nature of my life is that I use. He's my iphone all the time and I just use whatever MAC book. I'm reviewing all the time to do all my work and so I've used the keyboard a cumulus WLI FOR MONTHS BECAUSE I've reviewed several macbook models over this stretch for six weeks at a time and the one time I think it was the summer of two thousand eighteen. Yeah that sounds about right so it was like a year and a half ago. Oh they came out with new macbook pros and I was using one and one time the key got stopped out and like the corner. The corner was wedged edged under. I just sort of kidding me your little bit like it was like that and I just sort of noodled it and I was like Ooh Ooh now. I've got something juicy and I tweeted about it. I was like Ooh Iki got stuck and it never got stuck again and that was like three days into testing and I. Yeah well I use it for the next six weeks nonstop as my daily driver computer never happen again and and like weeks later somebody somebody from Apple. Pr reached out to me and they were like. Hey I missed it. And they had like linked to my tweet from like a month ago and they're like hey. Is Everything all right. That was like you know what never happened again. And they're like oh shoes shoes but I was like you know I mean this is almost sort of gas lighting thing where it's not not a consistent downslope in like the the dust or whatever it is that's getting under there can get lodged then sort of shaking loose Or move around. It wasn't it was very very possible for you to develop issue and have it consistently at home and be like. I can't write emails like this and then take it into the store door and transporting it to the store. Whatever it was shaken out from under the key and Sunday the key works fine in the genus would be like well? I can't help you like there's nothing for me to Look at or correct and I can't take the computer apart for a problem that I can't reproduce best of luck right right. And and maybe that term gaslight and gets thrown around a little too much today. They don't like ten years ago. I don't know if I ever heard it but it totally applies to this scenario. Where you you know that Uber writing and your Iki was producing? WBZ's and you take it into the store store and son of a bitch every single time you or you can say let me do it and you type you know a sentence and the Iki works perfectly and you kind of get it. It's like what is the genius supposed to do. I mean but on the other hand if they no apple knows does that. There's a lot of people coming in with this problem. Well thanks to where the real the real gas lighting comes in is like when you know a problem is a problem. Glum and other people are having it and other people are coming in claiming it and you're pretending like there's some crazy weird one off or that there are problems relatively innocuous. US like the the line that I kept hearing. Maybe it's just a piece of dust is like you know you know in your leg. Cosmic like overlord apple brain that you have done something wrong here and even if the genius doesn't know it someone somewhere up the chain knows it so for someone to be facing me telling me that my problem is like some sort of non problem is really kind of messed up and the other thing thing. Is that the MAC book or the lap. The idea of a laptop has been around for a very long time at this point and Apple Apple deserves credit. I mean this is going back into the nineties but sort of defining the modern idea of what is a laptop piece of hardware. Because like I in the early nineties the industry was all over the place and sometimes the keyboard was right up at the front of the device and people. I didn't know if there should be a trackball or should the keyboard and eventually this idea of put the keyboard towards the back use the front as like palm rests and and put a pointing device in the middle became like the defining idea of laptop and in the early days. They were all super expensive because computers were expensive and it was is like the entry model was like six thousand dollars and that's in like nineteen ninety five dollars and it came down in price and everybody got them and and at this point most people when they think of getting a computer what they mean is a lot like the desktop is the oddball everybody knows what it is. Everybody's used one people who do work on computers which is an awful lot of people that's what they think of and all of those years all of that typing. Most people never never once had a key go bad on any any computer like it's an awful lot of typing and I did the math one time just like back of the envelope like all right. I do a lot of typing because I am a writer but just sort of spitballing. Well the typical week has I do this many words. And let's just take a guess that the average word is four characters and a space and take a look at my sent email and just copy you know like how many emails did I send in the year so far and just a quick estimate. And it's like Oh I press keys on a keyboard. Millions of times like no exaggeration duration. There's you know that's actually true and it works every time it's not like ninety nine point nine percent of the time because it's like people living in the modern modern world with a job that involves email. You don't have to be a writer to do a lot of writing like you just email and skype slack and stuff like that it you. We pressed these keys and the accuracy is way more than ninety nine point nine percent accurate because it was only like one out of a thousand failures. You would feel like you go insane. It really is like one hundred percent accuracy historically and so to have these I was I was going to say more. This is like one of the realizations that I had when I was writing. This first article was that keyboards keyboards. Were a solved problem. Like no one. No one's thought of unity. I didn't even think about a keyboard like that keyboard could do. I have to check that the keyboard is going to be okay. It had it had not out Ben something that I had thought about in so so long it was an for apple to go and try and reinvent it to the degree that it had become like. I mean as you're saying like even sort of extremely marginal failure rate is so much greater than how anyone had ever thought about about a keyboard before like keyboards are supposed to be extremely reliable. They're the primary interaction mechanism for a computer and to take it even from that. Like tiny percentage like a fractional percentage increase in like inaccuracy is actually quite devastating to the entire mechanism right and some people know. I'm GONNA claim no judgment is being asked but I am judging you. I'm sorry dear dear listeners because I know some of you this applies to you some people. Some people eat and drink around their laptops or keyboards. I don't I never have because I I you know I like I don't I just don't want keyboard to get gross but people do and for good reason you know people are eating lunch and at lunch you kind of need to work or you need to catch up. You just want to be entertained right and you just want to watch a youtube hit the space bar because you want it to play But people do that they have done it. They'll continue to do it and they're keyboards. Just keep working or kept working like the keyboards that were the standard. Not like Oh. I'm going to buy an apple keyboard I mean like you could go Tis Sheba. You can go buy a Samsung you could go by. HP or Dell or any of the various brands that are out there and there's all sorts of things that you'd say or Janke about like cut rate laptops. You might say. Oh my God. This display is terrible. Look at it you could just eyeball or the hinge that you open it with is like just janke track pads notoriously kind of had bad tracking on on a lot especially cheap loans mechanisms or like scrolling macadear something like that. Yeah Yep or I remember one time long long ago. I mean obviously long ago because they haven't had a real job in a very long time but one time I had to work at a place where everybody got a Dell Laptop and the Dell Laptop had like the early two thousands it had and I know everybody has this as an option. I don't like it but the the thing where you can just tap the keyboard without clicking it to have it register Mr as a mouse click. Oh it was. It was turned on it was turned on on the Dell and this is a brand. They issued me a brand new laptop right out of the FA unseal factory unsealed and it had that turned on and it was driving me nuts and searching around that goofy windows preferences or settings whatever they called it can't find it. I do some googling on the model number and it turns out is there is no way to turn it off. This is anyway one thing. I didn't have a problem with on that on that laptop. Was Typing it really. It's more than a solved problem right. It really is like the thing that made it insane is that it wasn't even something we thought of as is a solved problem right like nobody really thought about buttons. That don't click right. I mean it's I. I can't even conceive of the I I mean. I wish I knew the process that went into making these decisions that led to this keyboard that like they were like this is a this is a reasonable sort of leap to make in changing the functionality and the design and and I don't think I don't think it's like they anticipated these problems but It's it's not uncommon mistake for apple to make that they fail to account for Anne real world Issues like the other thing I would compare it to is like When used to be that iphones didn't work super well in the cold because I think just doesn't get very cold like it's it can be? It's Cold San Francisco. Obviously but it's not like northeast. East cold there. The they'd never sort of accounted for at functionality. Problem is is I think part and parcel to this keyboard issue as well. Yeah and I think that even in those early years I could be wrong but certainly with the original iphone. It never even got to San Francisco. Because I'm sure they didn't didn't even let the test unit's leave. Cupertino like however however limited the number of people who had access to pre release hardware. They almost certainly weren't going to San Francisco. Like maybe Steve Jobs could take it home but he lived in Palo Alto right I get it now. I they've had some issues with that. The one I remember in particular was I think it was in the first or one of the ipod Nanos and it was It had like a plastic front and it it scratched just by looking at it and sometimes people get real you know. There's a large number of people who kind of want their apple stuff to stay mint condition edition and it's like normal wear and tear. It's like come on and nobody but apple but this one ipod Nano really could get scratched by rubbing tissue over it. I mean it was like putty and it was like how in the world did this ship. Well if somehow it must've like never left the Johnny. I've team design lab. And they just love the way it looked and felt on your fingertip and they never really tried like just throwing it in a pocket. It was some keys to see what would happen but it only lasted one generation. The very next ipod Nano had like a much different polymer on. It was much more scratch. Resistant yes I do recall that I mean yeah. It's funny that the that the continue to make the same type of mistake where we'll get this real world testing and like I think there's something to be said for like I like apple design and I like the fact that it's not a super rugged is like I would never want that from them but the fact of the sort of glaringly obvious test real world test cases continued to you slip through their sort of design ideals is very Telling and interesting and I. It's it's like I. It's surprising to me that they can't even sort of get together a test case or they could. They couldn't have gotten together a test case where someone just brought one of these computers home for you know like back and forth like Ena outs a sort of outside of a testing lab. Apparently and like see see the issues that start to come up with the keyboard board. I mean it really didn't take very much at all. I wouldn't say I wouldn't claim to like never bring gay say crumbly cookie around my keyboard but I had done it for years and years with other laptops other math books Never ever ever an issue with the keyboard as far ars keys sticking or eating to clean under them right becoming sort of like failure condition and the way that it did with one uh-huh it became like there was like a standard. It's still exists. I mean we're laughing but every single laptop. That apple sells other than Dan. The starts at twenty four hundred dollars in is as big as a lunch trade sixteen inch macbook pro is still using wildlife mildly just as a sort of preparation for getting the for this podcast say was on their website. Like double checking to make sure I I wasn't the one going going crazy. There's still selling like if you WANNA thirteen inch macbook pro. It still comes with this old keyboard. I'm like are you kidding me. This is absolutely wild to have it in only computer. Yeah I can't underst- I. I could never understand justification for that being the case I would love to hear them Explain that but and they won't all right. I'm going to take a break right now. Because we're just GONNA keep rolling on keyboards. It's all keyboards all the time. This episode no sports. No no other stuff stuff I mean. We've we'll fill up five hours on the keyboard but I'm GonNa take a break and thank our sponsor it's Eero. Ero It is Wifi that your home deserves. 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Here's the thing apple is i. Don't think any company is well-suited. No no company no person no team team no organization. Nobody does well when they make mistakes. Write mistakes that's the definition of a mistake. I think apple is particularly unsuited suited to dealing with significant mistakes. Small mistakes sure like imagine if going to the Second Generation Nations Butterfly Keyboard had fixed all the reliability issues. Then we would have thought timeline wise what this was reasonable. The first generation was all new. It ends up. There were issues with reliability of commonly used keys and you know like a a year later or so or eight months later when they came out with the second generation. Whatever that was you would think well? That's a reasonable amount of time for apple to acknowledge legit and address it and next generation product that fixes it that the real ghost in room and we'll spend time talking about this the new sixteen inch macbook pro. which is really great? I will see you know spoiler. It is really great and the keyboard is really really. I really do think it's fix everything. The the biggest issue here is how long it has taken for this thing to ship. And how long will it take for it to spread throughout route the rest of the macbook family in twenty twenty which apple of course won't even say they're going to do. I mean we all are guessing guessing that it would seem crazy if they didn't cause this keyboard is so much better and presumably. They're they're losing being a fortune on fixing these damn things while they're under warranty and they have this crazy keyboard repair program. That's really crazy to me is that I can't. I can't imagine this is not a winning proposition. Two for them to continue to double down on their nothing being wrong with these keyboards but or that. It's I mean obviously I think you're GONNA phase phase out of it but still it's been so long they've been like it's fine. It's fine it's fine it's fine. I don't know just a crazy decision to me. And I think it's I think Tim Cook is very interesting and nuanced person and I also think doc though he his public persona is very he. He's clearly very private and whatever he's like in person I think is impossible folded glean from what he exposed to us in the public. And so I don't subscribe to the notion. I don't think he's a very interesting fellow and I think if you really found out what he's interested in what aspects of these things he gets involved with. I think it would be very interesting. But there's certainly a a a line of thought that I don't subscribe to but there's a line of thought that well look. He came from operations he's not a product person. He's not a designer. He wasn't you I know his. He's a bean counter right. He's only interested in making in that fortune of money. That apple takes to the bank every three months and when they do these quarterly things right. He's a bean counter and therefore whatever your pet peeves with apple are X Y and Z.. It's because Tim Cook is being counter and he doesn't allow engineering to spend time fixing bugs and so their software's bugger than it used to be. Because Tim yeah because he's cheap in whatever you know everybody's there's a whole bunch of people whose pet peeves about apple. They attribute to because Tim Cook is in love with prophets I and the product. Second as opposed to Steve Jobs who loved the products. I right even if that's true. This is the thing. That doesn't make any sense pence it either way. It doesn't make sense because if he's first concern is the quality of the products well then the keyboard should've been fixed her but if his first concern is with profit margins and making money then this thing that has and the repairs were insanely expensive sense of because the design of the computer was that if the keyboard broke they had to take the quote unquote top case and the case was all of the computer bids right like that's the other the other thing that's so confounding about this whole thing is if your Iki broke and apple said we have all right. We'll take your computer and you can come back tomorrow. Martin pick it up. It did not involve popping off the key and doing something and then copying the key back on the fix was effectively to just give you a new computer right. I mean I think now I think that the latest generation can be like at least the keys can be taken off and cleaned under if I recall correct. Correct there's some like slightly slightly more Fiddling that can be done without dealing with the computer and like to hold pieces but I mean this. This is ben how apple computers have been. I think I'm pretty sure this was in the first article that I wrote largely about the keyboard but sort of speaking speaking to the level of ridiculous. That repairability has gotten that The previous COM macbook pro that I owned One of the little rubber Robert Feet fell off and brought it in Apple store thinking they would just like. Give me a little stick on rubber foot and I would just pop it on and beyond on my way and I ended up being there for like an hour and talk to like three different people for them to figure out that the only way to fix the fallen off rubber foot was to take the computer and replace the entire bottom half of the case. There was no other way to get another foot on the on on the computer which is just like the three geniuses who who were all going through this like also couldn't believe that that was true but that's the level that things have gotten to this These these computers and that sort of is is a canarian coal. Mine that Apple's whole support system has holes holes in it right like. That's not an uncommon problem. I don't think that Apple's laptops have a particular problem with the rubber feet falling off. But I've seen it. It does happens. They're not pretty sure we'll meet different emulators ones but I'm pretty sure they're not what adhered anyway except for like Sticky Guru between the case afoot and so that and there they have if this thing that none of it's a huge competitive advantage that at this point I think goes under talked about is that they have this worldwide chain of retail locations. Where you can go in and and talk to an actual person from apple who apple has certified as technically proficient enough to figure out common problems and it? It boggles the mind that with all of the secret drawers. They have around those stores that there's not one that's just full of rubber feet neatly filed right and it wouldn't be like a junk drawer it would be like. It would be like this thing that you would love you would like Oh my God can take a picture of that because it would say like it would have like these little index cards twenty thirteen Mac pro thirteen inch so that you you'd get the exact right rubber foot right. I mean it's insane that they don't like I. I really feel this has been a shift in how the genius bar works in like how their repair the whole thing is structured. Because I mean I got my first Mac Book Laptop in two thousand in six and back then. They were quite a responsive and helpful and just sort of like realistic in a way that dealing with geniuses now is is like talking to Overbought it's like talking to Siri or Alexa. It's it's like you're you want there to be a sort of human behi behind the interaction and the way a human like if a if a stick on rubber flip fell off they would hand you another stick on foot rather than being like. I'm sorry to hear. Computer is defective. Please allow me to like consult with other geniuses and my ipad and figure out what it is you should do. It's like there's a very easy. He's the answer here which is just stick on foot and it's like that sort of Level of service so to speak has been totally lost within with an the genius or the apple genius bar ecosystem and it's sort of. It's sort of like when you go to any sort of premium premium brand retail. Type thing. They they want to take care of your products. So if you buy like a ring at Tiffany and and then five years later you come in and you're shopping for something else. But they know you've got the ring from tiffany. They'll like they're like beg. You like lettuce clean it. We'll we'll clean it for you right now on. Just take your ring and go and do like this professional magic cleaning thing and then give it back to you and it looks like just as a courtesy like they just want your ring that you bought five years ago still a perfect and you know you go to a good card dealer and it's like you go in and take something in your. They'll vacuum it you know they'll they'll like vacuum the inside for your free and stuff like that give you a free car wash because they want the car looking good right like so like right. No name equity in the in this like sort of subjective the more like strapped right right so like you buy a no name chromebook feet fall off the rubber feet fall off you know just by new chromebook or whatever but apple should want you. They want your five year old Mac book air to have all four feet. Want I mean this is how it used to be. They want you to be out in the world with your like like sort of identifiably old computer but it's still like I used to admire the crap out of those people when I see them around like New York people were still carrying around around there. Like twelve inch powerbook in like two thousand twelve. It was just like that's that's like such that's like it's like seeing somebody drive like vintage car. It's like DOTS DOC. How good those computers are that people they love them so much they and they take care of them like the entire ecosystem sort of like supports itself? It really was like it's that's a kind of brand equity that you can't really buy and to sort of connect back to the Tim Cook Point. You're making That you say don't necessarily by which is fair but the fact that like it's hard it's hard to take that extra -ality and turn it into a line item. Where are you can sort of put a value on the sort of user experience and how people are out there in the world and the fact that a fine typing an an email to you and I'm sort of in a hurry I don't have time to go back to fix all the double ds or the doubled spaces? This is how my emails are coming through and it's like my computer's fault. It's like like how do you ascribe value to that either as either like by frustration or this sort of bafflement of the person. I'm talking to on slacker. Sending an email to. It's like those things all come. They they do sort of amount to something that that is not that can't be described by like me bringing in the computer and maybe maybe then the issue can't even be replicated to the genius and then it's like oh saved saved money and Tim Cook's pocket. It's like well now there's A. There's a lot lost there. That's very subjective. It's like I said like the CON- founding aspect of it is. I mean. Clearly whatever you think Tim Cook he's in charge of the company right. He he is you could tell. He's the man he the buck stops with him. His highest priority. Almost certainly you. It doesn't make sense is either the quality of their products and the user experiences experiences that people have with them or is apple's financials and its profit margins and revenue. I personally suspect that he truly do you think he gets it. Even though he's not a product designer himself I think he understands the company and its relationship with the people who who appreciate it that I do think he's a long-term thinker. I think that he's more interested in where apple's going to be ten twenty years and not about what they're going to report to Wall Street in three months but he knows that along the way you've gotta keep part of. His job is to keep those people happy. Who Do care about that and I think when he gets it that the most important thing apple can do? It's the whole reason. Apple exists and is so different than other computer device makers is that they really do. Put the design of hardware and software and the overall experience. I so I I personally believe that. He he believes that that's the most important thing but the thing that's so confounding is that it doesn't matter if you believe the other side if you think he's most interested in profit margins because either way it does not make sense that this keyboard lasted as long as it did. I mean yeah I don't I can't I can't make heads or tails of it really as far as like they did. They did quite clearly nearly in ways. They didn't openly acknowledge that we're sort of revealed the technical specs of or like the sort of little nuances. There's and changes of the structure of the keyboard mechanism that they were trying to fix it. They they were trying all it. All ended up being meaningless half-measures. They weren't completely like they. They weren't completely resistant to the idea that it wasn't working and it was a significant problem. I don't know why they didn't jump. I like I. I really don't know why they didn't jump to just putting like what they ended up doing just putting the magic keyboard in the computer and people have been saying this for I think ever since since the I I wrote my first piece they were like. Why isn't the magic keyboard which is quite good and doesn't have this problem? Why isn't that just the keyboard in in the computer and it's like obviously it's thicker? There's a I mean well then I'm curious to hear what your take is because I feel like that's a johnny ive thing to be you like the computer needs to be maximally then and it's worth the sacrifice of the faulty butterfly keywords in order for the computer to be as tiny tiny as possible. Well let's hold that thought Johnny. I've let's hold. That thought. 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A factor Johnny. I've that's one of the other elephants in this whole great because we know right. I feel surprised. I my my brain since I started. My new job is like just much but I think I didn't really account for I've forgotten even as I started talking about Johnny Irate. Now that he was GonNa leave the company and what a significant sort of moment omit. That should have been to me. Somebody who knows intuitively if not in any practical sense that Johnny. Ive is like the reason the keyboard is this way and that should have been the sort of like. Oh we're we're going to be saved or at least this is like an overall good sign and maybe that's over interpreting things but dot got that was I feel like now we can sort of safely say that might have been the watershed moment that was needed in order for them to finally step set this back and again so many people want everything to be black or white. Johnny ive is either awesome or awful and so you sit here and we can sit here and speculate right that. He played even some role in the going forward with the butterfly keyboards because of his is personal preference for making things as thin as possible. And that an even if it saves point four five millimeters of height on the laptop worth it. That doesn't mean that we're saying Johnny. Ive Sucks right so please get it through but us and like you even said it like. Ah You complain about this stuff and somebody out there. Who has one of these keyboards who never had a problem will use it as proof that you did something wrong right like well? Well I've got one and nothing's wrong with it so I don't know what you're doing you idiot. And it's like how did you graduate from high school and get through like even eighth grade science class with that sort of mind to evidence. I mean wave on keyboards for people to take their own lived experience as like the universal truths. That's almost one of the greatest problems we're facing right now as a society but I mean I would say what our podcast for other than wild speculation. I mean I would never say like Johnny was the precise reason and this is only being undone. Because he's gone but I do think as far as the sort of bigger forces within apple the company I don't I don't think it's nothing and I you know I we'll never will. We ever know for sure. Probably not but it seems it seems significant that this went on for so many years and through so many tweaks to the butterfly keyboard designed trying and trying and trying to hold onto it and keep it as so as what it was and now that he's leaving now they finally pushed through a completely a completely different design but like a more reliable design design. It they're already had I just again. I don't know for all I know somebody could come to me. You know a little Birdie who knows you know might come to me and say off the record that it turns out that Johnny personally hasn't looked at MAC book design in six years. It just his attention has been elsewhere. He's you know he's looking. He's looking at architecture. He's looking at chairs. He's he's obsessed with the volume buttons on iphones but the MAC black books. He's he's delegated to other members of his team actually had nothing to do with the keyboard. They could say that I would be a little surprised. I I and and I don't know and again I don't know how much of it is Johnny. And how much of it is the whole team around him that he's selected that shares his priorities. What I have heard from other actually have heard from other little birdies is that the butterfly keyboard did get pushed through by his team? In the you know the the hypothesis this is that their priority on thinness was higher than their than their priority on. Well how does it feel to type on even even at the point where it got two questions of reliability. That's why they stuck with well. Let's try a second in the third generation of the butterfly design. Before we give up on it you you know that did kind of come from the group. I mean this is the other thing that we've we've been hearing this. I feel like that like the apple has always been then designed forward and it was like here's the casing figure out how to make the parts fit inside so for that to be all for that principle to be also applied applied for the keyboard. Just wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah I think it's I think their design process is definitely more complex. And it's not who which WHO's tail wagging dog dog wagging tail situation and I think it's slightly different relationship than other companies. Yeah it's just so hard to say you know and and the other interesting thinking about the new keyboard is that it's not just that they that they went back to scissor mechanisms from butterfly mechanisms. which have more travel which I will verify you can feel that they have more travel? They feel exactly like I know. Markup Putting Lincoln and notes Marco Arment did this wonderful thing where he actually created charts arts in graphs of key travel of the keys over the years and like the old ones before the dark days had two meter two millimeters traveler one point five millimeters to try. It was like one point five. The butterflies only had point five five. Let's just call it point five millimetres I mean seriously point Oh five millimeters. We're talking about a hair and these new ones are like one millimeter of travel so there by measuring about halfway between the better butterflies and the old ones and I gotta say just using it for a week it feels. It feels like maybe like halfway in between it's exactly what it feels like. But in addition to fixing those mechanisms they've also gone back to the old Arrow key arrangement in an upside down tea which is a big pet peeve of mine they went back to having a hardware escape key up in the corner. They revisited several decisions and so that were unpopular with a lot of people and again. Why did it take so long? I what is the attachment of these things. It's very mysterious but the harassment. That stuck I mean they went down so many not not great pass with these designs and that they that people complained about and that they stuck to until now mysteriously until this version of the computers. Very interesting timing. I'm curious though about the the motivations of the Touch bar and how that's sticking around. That's that's interesting too and the way they did well number one. Let's just get this out of the way even though you are New York based and you are in the media and you have written the highest highest profile along with Joanna Stern articles over the years about the keyboard. You were not invited to the media Shindig last week absolutely not which I think is criminal. I mean regardless uninvited to an apple event. I was not I mean back when I worked at ARS TECHNICA. It was not apple point person so that's sort of made sense but I have had very little sort of communication from apple about I think gaffer this article. This first article came out. I heard from nobody. What I did here was A few months later Recruiter messaged me on Lincoln. Asking me if I'd it'd be interested in a job at apple I guess story But Yeah I heard I think ah I don't know what their what their methodology or like reasoning was for that maybe maybe they were just like what is the outline. Never heard of it before. Maybe this will blow over but it was like that article. I don't know that they they have any way of like sort of watermarking how much something traveling. I don't even really have any confirmation that anyone inside apple really like engaged with that. Maybe maybe someone did tell me something. And I just forget but I think that it was it was the number. It was like the second most traffic article on the outline which is not A. That's kind of. That's a big fish in a kind of small pond but it was. It was definitely hundreds of thousands dozens of views of getting closer to a million by now so it was not not nothing so not and it wasn't sort of calculus of like never even engaging with me even not even in an off the record like yelling at me. Sounds like ever heard from them. Do you think that would have been different. If you were still at ars Technica I mean. I know it's been a couple of years since you left ours but I wonder about that and I don't I don't know I have obviously more back and forth with Apple. Pr Than Most people listening to this show. Probably most people but I I don't know how they work. I don't know how they work. And even off the record even off the record with trusted people who had years long relationship with Apple. Pr They just in the bones of everybody at apple that they don't explain why they do what they do. I mean I am actually now. I need to walk back what I said. A tiny tiny bit they did contact me but like as a costumer it wasn't like a PR. What I've heard is they? Will you know people they know or know of of will get in touch and just I mean maybe over overstatement to scream at them but they will. They will get very upset in. Come come at you for the things that so you say. They contacted me as a customer. That was and we're like we're sorry you're having trouble with your computer. Do you want a new computer of the sake. Zack and I was like I think ultimately I did take them up on it but then ended up still getting rid of it because it just had the same like I was. I think I might have message them back. Being being like this is to be clear. We're talking about the same exact computer with the same exact keyboard state by design going to have the same exact problem they were like. Yeah I was like okay well. Aw I don't really have any other choice so sure but yeah in a PR sons never heard from them. What were you saying? Well what what computer are you using now like. What is your daily? Well I have my I own personal I bought one of the macbook airs last year and a incredible optimism. But also on just like I think I've become I really I really come into my own. It was a person who is Just like I guess I will waste of my own money to prove. Move Point to prove that I'm right even though in doing it I ruin my own life. that's sort of where I've and now the the keyboard husband having problems on and off. They've gotten so bad in the last couple of weeks. I made an apple store For next week and it's funny because because every time I go in. I'm kind of like I do. These people like know who I am and I never liked you know who I am or I'm never like I'm Casey Johnston. Here's the article I wrote. I want a word or whatever but I'm I'm so curious like if they because no one's ever shown any sort of betrayed any recognition action of of like. Oh yeah you like I like I think most people don't look at bylines is definitely one potential answer to that thing but it's like there's really no like flag in the back end of like this like number not number one enemy of the apple state. I would be the prize. I don't feel like I get treated any differently and people still don't do. Do you still talk to me like I. Am You know a child like who doesn't who's never used a computer before the way they talk to everybody but I want to what you were asking me something about. PR AND APPLE ARS TECHNICA. Well I was just asking. I'm just curious if you think that if you had written the same series of articles and they were published through ours do you think it would have had added. I'm not saying it would have changed the world and gotten the new MAC book keyboard out sooner but I somewhat suspect that you would have gotten more of an official off-the-record it almost certainly. I wonder I mean I think that. Like the the main the main contact for apple stuff while I was there was Jackie Chang who is kind of apple editor And I can only imagine if I had done the such an article that they would have contacted her at least and can we all sort this out maybe You know if I had published it at I don't know the verge something like that. Might have been more but then the question is to like. I'm not sure how much of a stomach anyone had. How did that? This was not to toot my own horn but like No one was. No one was like asking the hard questions about this computer and I think there was. There was still at that point. I think there's been a little bit of a watershed since that of like sort of questioning. Apple's design judgment and or integrity that I think people were playing. They were playing softball on this on this on these models and I'm not sure sure that if I had pitched and article to attack publication that was like these keyboards are garbage. I think not to not to name any names. I never had any of these conversations and I think that people are overall quite protective of their relationship with apple the company and I think there would have been some real hesitation about putting a stake in the ground. That was like these computers are bad so it was. It's a real credit to the outline to until the offend again. Who is like the only reason this article Cole came into being was that she? She's like a friend of mine and was listening to me rant over and over about these keyboards commuters. Write this article. I was like okay And like so many things that I write. I'm kind of like. I don't know that anyone will ever care or listen to this like it's a keyboard in one of the most expensive computers ears you can buy like what sort of marginal and dumb complaint But there's a lot there's obviously like a lot more there and I'm being kind of but I think there would i. It's hard to imagine this having played out in any different way because of that sort of apple tech publication dynamic that is still is still a an ongoing thing. I think it's changed a little bit but let I I get it and I. I don't think you're tooting your own horn on. Necessarily I really mean it that that you sort board of went out on your own and and we're sort of like the first to call. The emperor has no clothes this keyboard actually piece of crap and ruining my life. And you're on your own at that point it wasn't like there was no acknowledgement. That people were having problems right. I mean it was. There was an undercurrent of that baseline of to find I. I went and found backup for what I was saying. I didn't want to like make entirely about myself off. And there were there were forum posts and people going back and forth and Just the fact that there seemed to be this sort of party line from the a genius bar was an another sort of telling like there were a few things that had to be sort of in place in order for me to feel comfortable making this argument but yeah it was like no one really naming in writing and so just to be clear. Your current computer is is a macbook air or that you got last year. After the new macbook airs came out Novo Right. Were the great new hope. At that point they had like whatever the fourth fourth and Third Generation Butterfly keep that was supposedly going to be better and they had the memory and whatever and I was like I don't trust this but I'm going to give it a shot and like I really did need a new computer my computer two thousand thirteen I could have done what I suggest people do. Or what I have been suggesting addressing people do in like literally Geo Tolentino about this a couple or made me like a month ago. She was like my computer's dying. What should I do? The sort of Dury girthing became to buy a refurbished Like two thousand fifteen Oh the one at the time they were even sort of hard to find and I think they still are So I think I was on the fence about doing that and it was only like sort of two years newer than the computer that I have have. That wasn't doing so hot and I wanted more sort of Not that necessarily we get more performance out of an air than in a pro. But just I think it in terms of overall newness of the hardware. I wanted to give myself a better chance at that. And now here we are so I do think and again it's all anecdotal but we have to treat apple statements on this. You know they've said over and over again. A small number of customers are affected by Google unbelievable and you know what is a small number. It's you know famously. We a Bazo number right Amazon will say famously. We've we've had our bestselling Christmas black Friday ever but then they don't tell you what it's in relation to there's no baseline so small small all number. I mean we all know that it isn't everybody we all know. It probably isn't most people right. It's is it forty nine percent. He's never it's never that many at any given time but like over. The course of the lifetime of a computer helmet is it. I mean very curious. It's like maybe there are only a let's say a couple thousand computers in the shop. That's a very small number to be having an issue at any given time but if you consider how many sold at how many treated treated I'd be super curious what that's just it goes right and you you just know that they know because the people who work at apple in Cupertino use Mac books and so whatever the failure rate is we know. It's high enough it percolated within the company. But I've seen crazy things just just like over the last three years and once this really became a for lack of a better word of you know. Hey these keyboards a crap like you see pictures on twitter of people who use an external keyboard with their map books which is insane and they're like smart people professional professional developers. And they're like well. I just don't feel like being without it for seven days while they replace it like it's I'll actually go through the ridiculousness of of plugging in a USB keyboard or a blue using Bluetooth. Long rather than the Bilton one. Because I don't want to do it and I could honestly see myself doing that because there are times where you just don't Wanna be without your your computer and it's such a pain. I'm in a position where I have but I have this my personal computer which I I guess I don't even need. I have my work my work laptop which is one of the macbook pros the non Non Punch bar extra long escapee Like sixteen or Seventeen And then I have also desktop computer so I wouldn't be like totally hard up if I were to take this one in which I'm going to do and hopefully they will. I think last time I brought us when they sprayed out with a can of Not In front of me and then brought it back out and it did seem to be working better and I was like okay but like now I've done the. I have two cans of air here. I've tried to spread out hasn't made any difference So I'm hoping they will just fix it and I'm very tempted to play the do you know why am card on this because I'm so tired of dealing with the problem and I'm hoping hoping they will just take whatever it's so funny that they won't even even if they're they're I fix is to use the Eric Air sprayed you know the compressed air trick that they won't do it in front of you it's Sorta like like it's like their version of like you fly your waiter and you're you know the I've got a fly in my soup and the waiter isn't just GonNa fix the fly out of your super lock away. It's GonNa take your soup away and present we give you a fresh bowl of soup. Yeah well that's what you think but I think I mean the whole. The whole service element of this keyword. Keyword issue has been so ridiculous. I I wrote about this That the first time or the third the third time but the sort of first cycle in the first model model of computer that I had that was having this problem they One of the diagnostic tests was to put the computer in particular Miller. I think diagnostic or safe. Vote or something like that and I ran a program where the genius went through and pushed each key and I was like this is such touch theater. I can't I can't stand IT I. I liked associated when I was sitting there. I was like what would tell. You Elliott absolutely nothing. I just can't I can't I couldn't conceit with what useful input that would I think it also there was also like a software element where it was like. There was a progress respond. It was like analyzing the keyboard. It's like this there. There's no way that this is doing anything. And it was like forty five minutes of of of this just like a few tests like that and I was like. Oh my God you you like you can type on the keyboard and see that. It doesn't work but you're going to do all of that stuff anyway. I thought that the other thing that was frustrating at the point where again. I don't think it was a problem. That apple shift. It's a problem but I. I don't think it's a mistake that apple shipped this keyboard in the first place. 'cause I can imagine a scenario where got through internal testing as has reliable and it was only a question of whether people liked it and it gets out. You can ship mistakes if you don't ship mistakes once. Ah maybe you're not trying hard enough. I actually believe that right. If you know that you're you're being too cautious but it's like the way to be right. All the time is to to keep an open mind about having made mistakes and this is my philosophy you know with what I write a daring fireball. where it's like I try to be right all the time in what I write but but then I try to keep an open mind that maybe I'm wrong about something and acknowledge it and just say hey you know what I was wrong about that? The era let's say all of twenty eighteen is where I feel it was maximal. Comedy of this is absurd. It was March or May of twenty eighteen when Joanna wrote her famous and so Amazing Wall Street Journal left nothing on the table. It was it was just incredible. I wish I I know I know I can't even I. She was on my show a couple of months ago and I told her I was like. That's the hall of Fame Column For anybody in this racket like because it was hilarious it was spot on it was totally fair. The Gimmick was executed was. It sounded like a good gimmick and then the execution was amazing and it wound up actually having an effect like I know I can't say for a fact but I can say with ninety nine percent certainty that apple shipped that that summer update to the macbook airs sooner than they were planning to and the thing the straw that broke the camel's camel's back on changing their internal schedule was joins call. I'm so envious of the platform. Like how so would would anything. I mean maybe that's the real question asses when anything have been in different like you leave aside the Outlets if I had if I had this like the New York Times he's right. Yeah very true. Yeah Yeah I think I think it would have had more fallout. There's no doubt about it and that's not right. It's not fair we should you know. Ideally in deal world at this point with the way the world is today he makes me laugh even imagine again ideal world but in an ideal world world every article would be judged on its own merits and would reach the audience it deserves to reach. But that's not true. Of course I mean something like that. Yeah I think I feel some some a resentment about it. Also because it's not like again this is me being like can. Do you know who I am in a way. That's just screaming into the void but it's like while the outline was nothing it's like I've been a tech writer for a very very long time but like a decade and and it's like I know I absolute out I I've not I don't I don't I wouldn't believe that. I am entirely unknown to people who work at apple from back when I worked at ars technica like it's not like I was a nobody who just happened the hating computer. So it's it's I couldn't get traction just from that but it's like I don't know I'm just you know something broke internal internal it's like I said apple internally clearly wasn't hooked up to deal with a mistake of this magnitude and twenty eighteen to me was where it really I mean. It's great that it's fix. It's now at the end of two thousand nine hundred nine or at least the fix started rolling out but twenty eighteen minutes ridiculous if they had fixed it by the end of twenty seventeen or at the beginning of two thousand Eighteen Joanne A.. And never would have gotten to write or call right and twenty but the other thing that I thought was interesting about two thousand. Eighteen twenty. Eighteen last year was twenty nine thousand nine. It was is this year when they came this year when they came out with the Third Generation Butterfly Keyboards with the quote unquote material. Change which I clarified. What do you mean by that because material has different meanings? You know. There's the scientific meeting where you're using different material to make. Yeah and then there's also the sense that material just means meaningful and they were like well we really mean both but all we do there are but there are. There's one or more components they wouldn't say you know one thing they wouldn't say it was this little hinge or whatever they typical apple they don't want to explain and and I guess I don't know if the I fix it took it apart figured out what actually is it was the membrane and the rain was particular. I think they like figure it out a reverse. It's not reverse engineered but sort of through through differential diagnosis. Figured out what it was like or at least what was extremely a similar. So that's so I I do think I feel like the ultimate good news. Bad News is I do feel that that change Actually improved the keyboard reliability and it does and again this is my anecdotal data as the guy writes daring. Fireball is very different than what Apple Apple knows from people coming into stores but I hear from a lot of people you know like I've heard from an awful lot of people who read my site follow on twitter or listened to the podcast who've told me about problems uh-huh with this keyboard. I really do think that that third generation quote unquote material change fixed the reliability liability issues. I don't think fix the way it feels. I could be wrong and so bad news part of it. This is the you you don't have the Medicare I think it's not within the next year by default but I think if you do bring it in and you have enough. SORTA like they won't yeah they won't. Yeah if you need a fix even though you bought the one at the end of two thousand eighteen they would give you the fixed one and it is if you just think about the way apple usually works. IPHONES are unique. Because they make the most money on them and they're everywhere but iphones phones. Everybody knows when's the next iphone coming out. I can tell you for a fact. It's coming out in like the second Tuesday of September unless September the second Tuesday of September September eleventh. In which case. They'll do it on Wednesday because they don't WanNa do it on September eleventh. I guarantee it every year it it comes out like clockwork. It is as you know. It doesn't have a date but it's like Easter you can there's like an algorithm or you can predict which Sunday Easter is going to be. And and you know you know what's Thanksgiving is going to be. You know a thirsty institutionalized apple Tuesday. Jackie Chan used to say this everyone used to. Yeah they be like Oh my God the invites for the apple event and she was like this is the day she was like. It's always the second Tuesday it's been this way for a decade right. There are other products are on irregular schedules and macbooks in particular to the frustration of people who rely on them as like me and probably probably you as as their primary work computer are harder to predict but one thing we know is they. Don't update them more than once a year and so the fact that they they came out with an and the the whole idea of a modernized macbook air was the the they said so last year. It's their bestselling MAC book. It's you know this is what what people think of as a apple laptop a wedge shaped thing with a thirteen inch screen which is like just right for for most people words this perfect balance of portability and lightweight and still still bigger than that little tiny macbook. And it's bigger than in Lebanon type had blah blah blah but but everybody wanted one of the retina screen because it by that point it was like well. This is ridiculous. Their most popular laptop is still sold with this screen. That looks like it's from fifteen years ago so they came out with it in November and the fact that they updated it in the summer this year to get that third generation generation keyboard standard and they did something else they like switched to cheaper ram or something. There was something like they made a couple of other. They did more than just just put the keyboard and it shows you that that the keyboard was an issue because there's no way they would have updated at the soonest they would have updated it as regular apple product would have been one year later doing it. Nine months is unusual. Yeah very telling all right. You're asking about the touch bar before four and didn't really answer shortened or something well so what they've done it is different and so now there there is on the left side physical escape key so that touch part doesn't go all the way to the left side and it no longer shows you the fake vache. Escape key that it would have done except for certain APPs. There's actually an interesting threat on twitter that I swear. I hope I'll put in the show where some I'm guy who works at Apple actually wrote about it and which is unusual because people at apple often don't publicize stuff like this but there are some cases where certain APPS is like might put up like a dialog box and they still put the equivalent. They won't put an escape kid on the virtual touch bar but there might be like could done button or something that finished at something and they're logic which is really really smart like in a sense you can almost see. This is how they try. This is why they should the no physical escape key in the first place was that there are all sorts of situations and corners. You can get painted into to designing the software where it makes sense for the touch bar to be involved in cancelling our stopping or whatever you would use an escape for But the basic idea now. Is that if you start something on the touch bar if the APP has some kind of thing where you start the process of changing the volume or whatever the the cancer way to get out of it might still be on the floor anyway. So that's one change. There's a real escape key. And the logic of what. The touch shows has changed dynamically based on which computer you're on because obviously you might be running the same version of Mac. Os Ten on year-old macbook pro. And you still need the virtual escape key on the right side touch. Id Sensor now has like a gap between in touch bar so you can feel it more clearly. The air has I mean obviously doesn't have a touch bar but yeah it's it's own scandal sort of right. Yeah it's the exact I think it might be the exact same piece from the air and any other changes they made was that they increased all of the keys. Have more space between them now. It doesn't really look like at a glance but he really compare it side by side and it's good though. I think it's a really important change because I feel like the keys. Being too close to each other led to sometimes not being sure where your fingers were on the right keys so so all of the keys on the keyboard have slightly more space between them and the slightly. We're you know. It's like a fraction of a millimeter. Maybe it's not a huge gap but it's enough that I think it really makes a difference. Is that the bar is further above the number Kiro. There's there's a little bit more of a gap there too. They said good design call. Because I think I've I mean I experienced this too and I had one for you know was a year and changed. I think but constantly constantly hitting the touch bar by accident never really wanting to interact with the touch far other than to use the The F. Like basically the media keys are like the brightness in down down the bright key eager the keyboard brightness or the screen brightness is like all I ever use it for and it was just like two extra taps than it was when it was just hard function keys But it was otherwise just constant hitting it by accident and people were activating Siri by accident. And that's fixable accessible but moving away from the rest of the Keyword seems like merciful gesture. You don't have a touch bar right now but let made me just throw out a tip for everybody listening. Who Does and is kind of annoyed by it is? You don't actually have to do an extra tap when you tap up on the brightness or the volume on the touch bar you can just immediately start dragging and it'll immediately show you in and move the little. Oh slider to show. It has always been that way. But if you don't know that I don't see any reason why you need person would guess it. It is a great little shortcut. It's very clever. It's been like that since day one but it doesn't it. Looks like you have to tap it. I wait for the slider to appear because when you do it the way I'm telling you to the slider doesn't your finger isn't actually on the slider because you're not starting where it is anyway play with that everybody. It's a game changer. And it really does it. The bigger question and you didn't ask directly but I know what you're going to. I know what you're getting at. Is that the touch. Spar is not universally beloved. It's another would be. It would be a greater folly headline. We're not for the Keyword in general but the keys has really stolen the This under as far as like design mistakes I think the touch bars very different. It's different caliber of controversy compared to the keyboard because I do uh-huh more if they weren't the keyboard talk about a yeah probably and I so I think internally apple sees the touch bar as a premium thing that is better than f keys now better how. I'm not quite sure what they think internally but that anything that's a premium Mac book is going to come with one and so like the thirteen inch Mac. Books have had the you know the week locally have called the MAC book escape because it had had not having touchable period therefore always had a physical escaped. But that's like it's not really a pro pro device. It's actually slower. has like more like a MAC book. Airs internal chipset and stuff like that. They just call it a macbook pro. Because because it's the exact same size as the MAC book. Thirteen inch macbook pros. Do have a touch bar right and it's a lot cheaper. It was hundreds of dollars less us. Fifteen inch I don't I would never having used one out like I would never pay extra hundreds of dollars for this thing that is slightly actually slightly less useful to me than the configuration option gives and solve the problem that you never had like. There's nobody really I think internally what apple has thought and I get it like the idea of function keys just period seems. It's like this weird throwback to like nineteen seventy eight right right like it. It's like I mean I don't I don't like to stay. There's like no way to improve approve upon the function keys. There there should there should be. But it's like this is not not achieve and it was asked at the media event. The question and answer stuff was all off the record on background. Forget the exact rules. But I didn't worry about about it because I knew I wasn't going to quote anybody anyway so I treated it as on background but the media thing in like groups of Eight I don't know how many groups there were one of those other things you just don't know what's going on when apple holds these because they had like a group of eight at a little keynote presentation just for us that was on the record explaining everything that was new than we had time for questions and then they moved us around as a group of eight to a series of demos stations. Where like here's developer? Stuff and they show you exco doing stuff super fast and literally made a point of saying that if you use the vim text editor from UNIX. The escape ABC is right there so I don't have any groups that were but they moved us around but somebody my group definitely asked about the and it was Marco Geico definitely definitely asked about. Hey why is there. No option is they're just double checking. There's no option to buy one of these. He's fifteen inch macbook pros without touch bar. And if not why and the first part of the question was answered very clearly no there is no option and the second part wasn't answered at all because that's the sort of decision apple just will not explain and they won't say we're not gonNA can explain it. They have an answer but it's sort of word salad and they just won't say I think I think it's because they truly do believe it's better. I think they think I think it's more elegant. And I think they think it genuinely is a premium product a premium aspect of product. And the one thing about the fifteen inch macbook pros was even going back to the powerbook era. I think is that they've the fifteen inch ones and now the sixteen inch have always been very pro. Oh in terms of specs and price right like there's never been. There's never been a sort of more affordable way to get a fifteen inch display on a MAC laptop. which kind of sucks? Because if you know like you know the whole thing this whole keyboard thing is really just shown that if you're a Mac user. We all know that we're beholden to one company's wins on everything and if there's a problem what if they start shipping crappy computers were. We're all fucked right. We're screw and one of our we dark dark few years. We've had here right but it's kind of crazy to me that if I totally get why someone would want the smallest laptop possible totally can imagine that I can also imagine why someone would want the biggest laptop possible to have the biggest display possible because they and they don't care maybe they don't even move it around much watch. Maybe they'd mostly use it at their desk so the fact that it's big doesn't really matter you know. Have a bag that fits in and also get why most people want one that sort sort of right in the middle with like a thirteen point. Three inch diagonal screen totally get all of that. But I think it really sucks that if you're what what you really want is a big sixteen inch fifteen inch screen whatever size and you want to use a Mac that you're starting prices. Twenty four hundred dollars. I think that kind of missile. What if what if you really don't do anything other than use safari and email and slack and you're you don't need I salaam? Yeah like wanting a big screen. Seems like a very normal thing to want. You know like they'll sell you an I mac that it you know. It is relatively low respect just because you WANNA big screen like I don't mean that the point that I would make is that like if you want like a laptop is so Sub Optimal for working on for a long time in so many ways. That like to me if you WANNA big screen. But you don't need it for any other purpose other like you're not editing video or photos or say like you're you don't have some visual. Need you want some visual space. I'm kind of like Dick that that speaks to your on the computer for a long time. You're using it a lot unless you're super super mobile. I'm kind of like you should just have a certain desktop. Set up like a monitor that you can plug into. And then that's solve your problem like it's like only if you need this big screen and somehow need to be able to bring it like lots of different places which I think is the majority of people who eat I think if they had also need that huge screen I think if they had one now if they had a fifteen inch macbook pro that had a slower. CPU You like the thirteen inch. One doesn't have a touch bar and they took out the touch bar and it was only two thousand or maybe one thousand nine hundred dollars cut five hundred dollars off the price but in one thousand nine hundred dollars still pretty expensive in the world of laptops I think that thing would sell shocking. Still it was like the same price nice as a thirteen and that worked. That was better had better specs and just a smaller right and has a touch bar. So I I I guess my disappointment with the touch bar. I'm okay with them. I'm not touch bar hater. I'm not touch bar lover. Uh I'm okay with it. I wouldn't wouldn't bother me in the least that I'll probably never buy a MAC book again. That doesn't have one. I kind of wish though that they had had thought of better things to do with well. I think that this is the most part of the problem is the most positive thing that I can say for the touch bar. Lar- that it holds space for if they have they ever do come up with a good idea of how to use it. It's like the computers. Were we'll art. Likes a certain like back. Generation of computers will already have it. It's like they can't they can't go back and change the function keys that you sort of can. But they can't change the the printing on them or whatever so it's like it creates space for a good idea if someone ever has one. And that's that's sort of I. There's there's there's some meeting to that I think I I wouldn't say there's absolutely nothing that a touch our could be useful for. It's like there's a couple of applications nations I think where it's like scrolls scrolling through certain things or shortcuts like. There's there's a way I think that it could be integrated that's useful but we haven't gotten there yet. I take a quick here. Thank our third third and final sponsored. Good friends squarespace squarespace long longest sponsor of the talk show. You've heard me talk about them. If you're a regular listener dozens dozens of times possibly absolutely quite possibly I think we're an episode. Two hundred sixty nine quite possibly over one hundred times they have sponsored this show they still sponsor the show you know why because people listen to the talk show keep signing up for squarespace because guess what never goes out of style having a website and maybe you have. 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Here's what I want to try so the keyboard being fixed that to me this in order. Here's here's to me. The the new the story of the new MAC book in order the keyboard totally fixed. I love it. I I really liked this keyboard now when I go back to my twenty fifteen. which is my personal? I actually I feel how Gigli all the keys are like. They've they've kept that stability of the key caps from the butterfly keyboard but put it into a nice squishy scissor key mechanism. I think you're GONNA like it. You haven't tried one because it just hit the stores yesterday. Yeah yeah well. They might be in stores a- and I know that if you preordered on Wednesday some people started getting them yesterday. You're GONNA like it. I think it definitely feels better than keyboards even as like like the magic keyboard the external keyboard right or with less travel. Yeah but I think the keys even feel a little bit more stable though because because they don't move a lot it just has a good field that has the same really nice back lighting. That doesn't bleed around the edges from the recent keyboards you know like now. I look at my map book. And I'm like looks kind of cheap the way the back lighting bleeds out from around all keys. I love the new Arrow key Leah. I'm hung up on that. I could never get used to the full height left and right Arrow keys are you. Are you a person who cared about the use. The Arrow keys enough to get upset about it. I mean I have Like my other. My other appears I think that I do when I'm doing stuff. It's more on different keyboards Yeah it's never really bothered me. I've never really liked fully understood that complain but I respect it. I could never get used to it. I have a friend WHO's a system administrator a straighter and he was helping me with some stuff with daring fireball. This week He's GonNa buy one just to get because he and he's using yeah he. I use the Arrow keys all day every day at the command line to go up and down between previous commands instead of a big a big pet peeve. Fran Yeah I so I think there's people there's a lot of people who didn't really care and the care hated the the other lap right so everybody everybody who cares wants the upside down t and everybody was like the other one was fine. I I one guy on twitter. who was arguing with me? That the the new one was better. I and his his logic was that because the left and right keys are used more often than up down therefore they should. It'd be bigger but it's I don't even know where to start with it. No and the worst part is I know. I talked to someone at Apple. I know the you know how they talked about how they did. All this user testing about like re put different. Keyboard prototypes in front of people in and photographed their accuracy. You know like they used video. Yeah they did testing to figure out what makes people make less mistakes. That is true. They did do that testing but the thing that apple didn't say a a last week in the publicity for this device is that something that they have done for like twenty five years and never stopped and have always done like they've always done serious testing on things like that and so they had all the data about how making the key caps too big and decreasing the travel and using this different our design. They had the data that showed that it made people slightly. How much less efficient? How many more errors? I don't know there was slightly more errors efficiency. They knew that when the keyboards that had those designs so I find it. So the what is the advantage of this of this one with the fat left right keys like it just looks sort of like squares out the entire layer. The only thing which is not not doesn't seem worth at all the trade off eight seems silly. It's like like it's sort of like you know like Oh this is a terrible analogy. But it's like if you have a gap in your teeth. It's like well. You can at least fit a toothpick in there. I like I don't know you know what I mean like. Sure it doesn't look as good and aesthetically you should go to an orthodontist and get it fixed. But there's a maybe a functional aspect of it I don't know there's a functional aspect to these the gaps there the keyboard. It's just better. I don't want to spend more time on this it. I really do think it's fixed. I would wager money that the the reliability issues are gone too because it truly is all new mechanism scissor keys even though they have less travel than they used to never seem to have been Bothered bothered by bits of duster. I mean I can't live like it was just never something. I ever thought about with a computer before. They never thought I never. I never thought I would learn to use the word egress as much as I have in the last few years and I don't even write massively about the keyboard anyway. Number One story. The keyboard is an all new design. Feels better. I think it's going to be more reliable. I like it number two. This is the part out of left field. I just wasn't even on my radar or something apple might do. The speakers on this thing are amazing they are my analogy. My I thoughts on it. I compared to going from a non retina display to a retina display that different side by side with like the fifteen inch macbook pro that this replaces it is a it is totally credible that you could be in a typical small like living room and use this this laptop as the speaker to entertain guests and have music played. It does not sound like a laptop it sounds like a home pot junior it it it is absolutely astounding and it just came out to me. It came out of left field because I never heard anybody say boy. I sure wish my laptop had better speakers It's really night and day. It is like again going from non Retina Retina to me is the difference. Because it's I feel like with iphones iphones. iphones have surprisingly good speakers. And I don't use them much because you know in most contexts. It feels rude to be playing the audio through your iphone. You know like if you're out in public but when you do want to listen to a video and have it play play through the speakers. The IPHONE is at this point surprisingly good if you really pay attention to it. But it's been like a incremental all thing where for eleven years every year. They've made the speaker slightly better slightly better slightly better slightly better. And now we've gotten to a point where yeah if you compare this one on against a phone iphone from seven years ago. The speaker differences night and day. You can really hear it. It was never one year where the iphones or the IPADS had like a huge wjr increase whereas with this MAC book pro. The speakers are absolutely amazing. I don't even know how much I use them. I mean it's like I don't even know. Oh well like when's the last time I played stuff through the speakers on my laptop I usually just play headphone transit like what what is the significance. I mean I I will do it. Let's see if I'm like doing dishes or how stores I might like prop or somewhere and play a show through it and that that is I'm telling you right now and I really. I hope they bring these to all the macbook pros these speakers that it's so much more credible all with this like yeah just playing show while you're doing dishes or preparing dinner or something like that it. It's really amazing for a year-over-year year-over-year generation over generation difference. It is a totally different experience. I can't emphasize enough. How much better? It is Shruti I forget her last name. But she was the product manager for the macbook pros at Apple. Aw was on Jason Snell's podcast upgrade. And he did a fantastic interview with her after this event and he asked her about it. What what exactly is the use case for? Putting good speakers in this she goes well. Here's one that's very common. Let's say you're a film editor and you're working on a movie or a commercial or or something like that and you've got a scene and the director comes over and standing over your shoulder and you want to show it here. You just hit the space bar to play that thing. Having better sound is way more. It's really important in that scenario because you don't you can't use headphones because they're sharing it with somebody else it's colleague and you know those. Little interactions between like film editor and Director Happened Thousands of times production of a film and so having better sound could make a difference for some people. The other thing they said was that they've increased priest. They've totally redone. The internal microphone and they've it's much better it's like a three microphone array and they even said it studio quality and that you could use it even to record podcasts which sounds like a bold claims so far no I have up here to four on this show. I've been talking to you through the Shure Beta eighty seven eight microphone. They've been using for the last several years on the show. But what I'm GonNa do right now is I'm going into skype preferences totally. Aw All right. I haven't done it yet. Him In three to one on the internal microphone. Do I sound different. Yes you do all right so that proves that worked at. Didn't interrupt the SKYPE call. Actually it's interesting. We'll we were talking about having some like staticky on the The other one but this one no static but you can hear the room around you a lot a lot more. It's a little like Echo. Lear that is worrisome. I suspect that there might be some bad. Well we'll see but anyway I'm talking on internal now. I'll do the rest of the show right here. We don't have much more to go but I think that's interesting. I'm talking about the same distance that I would be from the screen if I were just like typing on the keyboard right now doing like a a a facetime call. I mean it sounds fine. It sounds good but like I definitely I do hear a difference. It's not it's not the sugar and that to me is did. There's performance increases that. I'm not produce. My question yeah okay. I've been disappointed by computers. Particularly the MAC book air with us How is the Webcam Webcam in the massacres of garbage? I didn't test it. I honestly don't know I'm looking at it. Because the skype preferences shows to me I don't no no I'm guessing it's not that good I'm guessing it might be as good as the Medicare it's interesting because it's not like a sort of killer APP for the a computer I feel like it's like a utility thing but It's just so it's it's shockingly in the MAC book air really bad. It's it's like a six forty four eighty not literally but it's it's just breath like awful. Yeah better in the pros. I thought maybe it's a little better. I think that the problem is that they've backed themselves into the physical corner where they want the display to be so ultra thin and therefore there's even compared to like a phone there's way less thickness the top macbook pro displays way thinner than an iphone. So there's just no room for a bigger better camera Hamra. I don't think it's any other questions you have about the new. I think the only thing left is what is. Is there scheduled for the next year for rolling this out across the rest of the product line. I wander wander all right. Let's call it a wrap. Everybody can follow you on twitter at KC Johnston. It's a great twitter. Follow Right now. You work at vice as the life editor director. That's cracked you can find me. How's it going? It's pretty good. I mean I'm writing my column as well for provides. Ask US well woman. And that's that's going really well but it's great I've been I hired a whole team and they're really firing on all cylinders. I'm so proud of them and they're yeah really fun to work right. And so you're you're you're ask US woman column. Is Your column where you take questions and answers from anybody you but obviously from the perspective of woman but you you're weightlifting and enthusiast people asking questions like hey what. How do I pick Jim that was like one of your recent columns? Yes yeah it's just self about It's sort of refracted through the lens of like lifting weights but look broadly about People's relationship but their bodies and food and exercise and like how to sort of get part of your life in order and feel okay about it and approach it in a way that's sane scene and not subscribing to a lot of prejudices people have about themselves in what they can or should be doing when it comes to exercise and you've in writing that column at various publications down for at least like three years right. Yeah it's been a little over three years now hairpin and then self and now vice well that's great. Thank you for being here. Could not have asked for a more point on guest to talk about these goddamn keyboards the new. It was fun. Well and thank you. Honestly I mean it from the bottom of my heart for for sort of popping the bubble years ago. Oh and doing the work that you did on the keyboard. Yeah cool thank you.

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"They run through our ass shit to attend more man and we could not stop me. We failed to make our coaching points in our points more compelling than their fat little girlfriends bid all they'll may know we now we need more dogs and welcome to unnecessary roughness week two of unnecessary roughness the most ridiculously ridiculously violent juvenile college football podcast and all the land. My name is brandon walker. That is casey smith. It might the violent juvenile but it's the truth what matters vile not so much juvenile one hundred percent one hundred and it is absolutely the truth is raw uncut takes. We also have jack over there. Hello jack mack. Hello very excited to be here as always didn't like that. It's not it's are casting to adele. What hello hello i came in. I was gonna tell you this jack. I meant to tell you this off air but now that we're already recording and your your voice just remind me of this. One of my girlfriends is obsessed chest with your voice. She has an what he looks like. She doesn't know anything about this other than she takes me and she said i love jack's voice really jackson. I my my mom says. I have a great voice. I don't like your voice. I just ruined it. It's a it's an aggressively. I don't know how to sit down to scrap his voice. That's because because usually you're looking at him when he sang at any infuriates you sometime you see the video of casey's saying i can be a real asshole sometimes yeah that was right after yeah yeah. I think i saw that live. I see that on video see that all the time. I really held onto the notre dame. No we want of college. Football is for the most part in the books. We still have tonight. We still have notre dame and louisville. We'll get to that on thursday especially. If anything remarkable happens but we want is in the books and who is a lot lot lot to take in a lot going on. I'm just gonna off the top of my head. It seems like they're or more teams fan bases players and coaches out there who are disappointed today's accurate. It seems like this was a weekend of expectations being being fallen short of of just outright and downright embarrassment. Hello tennessee will get to you in just a little bit but it seems like there's more that went wrong for teams then went right. I almost feel like though zero kind of set that precedent with the fact that four to one that game against miami miami which feels like that was a year ago by the way but we still sat for a week and just talk shit about florida. It was almost like it's set the tone for the season of what teams might be winning but we're still just gonna talk badly about them because there was more things negative. I think that happened for a lot of teams in positively but it is week one and we always overreact. We're going to do it right now. We're gonna continue to it but in a few months by all right week. Doc washburn didn't really matter for a lot of those teams we owe an apology to florida in miami are off on a percentage ever except for me. I jump over either of hello mr nice voice. I'm going to be nice to ever. He's never going to let that one go. I think we might owe an apology to how sloppy it was for saying that but it's still a sloppy i mean we can't ignore how sloppy that game. It was many times. Can i say sloppy well based on precedent. You're doing pretty good but it was definitely a weekend of well. Hell it was the first weekend of college football and my wife is calling me on facetime right now. Don't worry about that. Let's just put the phone down. I can't answer that that's a good time to answer it and see if she he likes his voice actually yeah maybe she will like your voice. Maybe she'll leave me. That'd be fun. I've been trying to get that to happen for years anyway. Let's let's go ahead then get started. 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Dip and all the recipes in between okay so before we get through everything else that happened in college football this weekend we gotta go ahead and dive into our live every active. Mr jalen hurts and his debut at the university of oklahoma against <hes> against the overmach sympathetic houston cougars defense on you. Were going to introduce wanna know before the end of this. I gotta say i know oh you had this interview. 'cause he's done a masterful job this thing repositioning my argument to pretend that i am some anti jalen hurt that oh i don't like him. I think he's any good at all done a masterful job getting oklahoma fans on your side like your jalen hurts white knight that you're you're missing her brandon knock. I didn't say anything on twitter tonight about you. I just tweeted but i liked. Jalen hurts and life thought that he was going to be really good like i've been saying i don't know where they're getting and. I'm assuming they're listening to it. If anybody's sandbag on that is big cat because i haven't said oh look brand walker said and look what i said i fully admit it on twitter that i might have been right about. Jalen hurts everyone. Else is drawing their conclusions my position of all time he's going to put up monster for numbers because he's playing for a great quarterback coach and he's playing overmatched conference. It doesn't care about defense here. This is this is what you do brandon you. You leverage yourself. This is the you say something you have take and then you hedge it. You say oh look at me. I'm saying that jalen alands gonna have a big season. I just don't think he's good is because of the coach or something you just walk the line perfectly which is kind of fitting because your show is called walk. The align is the big argument that i just don't think because the top quarterback in this country that's what i'm saying but but the biggest argument that we've had about about jalen hurts through over the last couple of podcasts which is obviously in the live action after game one and we overreact on everything in week one but is that you said that you like jacob beason better. You said you liked justin herber better. You went down the list of all these guys in my question at the time was why do you say that about those other guys but not jalen hurts and he said did. Did you think he's more of a running back. Well what we saw tonight and i understand it's against houston. I'm not saying houston. How's this just wide it up defense. What we saw is that he did figure out how to throw the default in lincoln lincoln riley offense hundred and thirty two three he did. You're trying to tell me that he didn't look like a different i've been i don't know what gave you were watching what the game or costa because the lamb was the most. It was the easiest but at any cost quarterback we'll have this year. There was no one joining the jesus he's going against defenses that can't play good defense like he saw when he was at alabama basketball argument about jalen hurts if he was still at alabama or if he was playing in the the big ten or something else it might be different. I think he's a really good quarterback but your whole argument is houston's playing defense who is going to play defense against oklahoma this year that makes me think he's not able to make those passes just said don't want her to have learned how to throw the ball. Nobody has trusted russell passes tonight with a swing path six-yard plant that went for sixty yards and pepper c._d. Lamb your quarterback could have thrown. My son woke up tonight but you running back heard her running much. My kids are the best dunkers in the world. They don't wanna fisher-price go. Oh my talk you talk. You know what you said. You said tommy stephen what's a good quarterback today at mississippi state and look at the dog she game. He played against the team. It's nowhere near houston. Well you can't it does though because you're you're taking every other quarterback and saying well it's okay because they had a good game. It was against lesser teams would want hurts did tonight. Put everybody. In the nation on alert. Wait wait a minute. He can be pretty good and lincoln. Riley is offense like most people thought he would be joined. No he's gonna go in and light up. Nick save alabama. I have no idea because it depends on what owes us able to do but you cannot look at what he did tonight against houston and say well. You might not be very good in lincoln valleys. The big twelve does not play defense. Wwl associate wouldn't be good at once said he would be good. Then what is what's the argument about jalen hurts. You're saying it looks like your kid could dog on a fisher price school but going to be really good quarterback. Which one is it was. I saying that this man jalen hurts is going to put up huge numbers in that offense offense 'cause lincoln riley is a good coach and they play crap teams all year gonna put up big numbers but he can't be now them or clemson or georgia or anybody else when it just you know he's not a good record that that's all kylie kylie everyone highs in last year and couldn't beat alabama so that's not some news breaking thing about oklahoma. You might not just because it's jalen hurts. Cuyler murray couldn't do it either but what you would you say you're you're acting like i say the gentleman hurts thanks. I thought understood why this hybrid guys towards that. We think is going to know. I know but you said earlier that i'm getting oh. Oh you've fans against you. All is tweeted was he was gonna do just fine and lincoln riley offense and you tweeted back me. Does he get to play houston. All your like you kidding yourself against oklahoma fans not me. I didn't say anything about you. What i said is what he did tonight. Which is undeniable. He put up huge numbers that you said he would but then you feel like well it's houston so it doesn't really tell well unfortunately unfortunately for that argument is that he plays in the big twelve. Here's for listen. Let's hold on jack listen. He did a great job tonight. Jalen hurts instead of leading oklahoma dolphin to forty two points against the defendant lasted game table seventy two army dippy so to memphis. Let's give him the heisman repel an isis lawrence heisman so that's putting words in my mouth but you literally just back to back countered your own argument twenty twenty twenty twenty-third twenty-three alabama and georgia but not but then they're accusing they think so it's like which one is it. Is he going to be good. This year against trash defenders or is he not. I think he's going going to be might be a little twenty trashing houston but then you're just trashing on houston saying well. We can't say how good he's going to be if we're just gonna trash on use and he had a really we really good night. Jack reed the best twenty for twenty three three hundred thirty two yards. Three touchdowns sixteen russia's one hundred seventy six yards three touchdowns six touchdowns astounds jalen hurts accounted for forty two of the points i mean he didn't kicked extra points but jalen hurts. This is how you start a heisman this how he started heisman season kyle he we did it last year against f._a._u. And i just comparing him to a fisher price your kids duncan on a fisher price. That's ridiculous and honestly disrespectful. It's jalen hurts and everything that he's done sense. He stepped foot on a college football field brennan walker okay. I think you're taking the fisher price now. I we're not total. Oh no. I'm not saying he's a child. I'm not saying he's a kid but to compare what to say what he did against houston. Is this great big campaign. He was done anything go deeper who said that understand on twitter. That's all you're seeing on twitter twitter. I never wanted to said he's going to win the heisman. I said that i think jalen hurts is going to be very dangerous it oh you because of the defense of what he was able to do it alabama. I don't understand where the heisman in thinking from who said that about your arguing with yourself. Everybody else good of a night. Jalen hurts his head. You're arguing with an organi. What'd you say. Jalen hurts had a really really good night. He had a great night. What does jalen hurts have to brandon for you to admit that he's one of the five best quarterbacks in the nation. We asked to ask the big texas for sure doesn't detect if he doesn't beat texas this conversation's over <hes>. What say you beat texas so let's say he goes to the playoffs you know if he if he goes up there and gives alabama game cubs game i i you gotta put him in the mix but if he goes out there with oklahoma offense scored seven points or fourteen it gets early defense. I will have been proven right all right. Murray was one of the the best quarterbacks in the country last year while he he did that against alabama. They couldn't score against alabama. So what why is it different for jalen hurts. It's jalen hurts jersey. Oh carl murders for four thirty five points against al. I'm saying to you point if he goes up against alabama and clemson and gets shut down or it doesn't the offense doesn't move very well defense and he can't move the ball gets all defense. That's the conversation calamar you move the ball against alabama once alabama. I've got a twenty eight point. Lead took an app. I think they need to send the college football show to the oklahoma texas game. That's the only my guys a- i mean jack your take on sam etlinger being running back. I mean that was a troll job. I mean obviously obviously that's just not true brandon. I got your back on all the only the only thing that i can say. Is that going into this game for shall. We all knew that oklahoma was gonna win. I don't think any of the three of i bought this was actually going to be a game and the second thing is that like he not only just got them to a w he played very impressively and i'm not putting houston on some massive acid pedestal but if you look across the league at all the quarterbacks that we watched play in week one including trevor lawrence i think we all agree is the best player in the country. It wasn't like you look at what he did against a lesser opponent. It was like holy shit. This guy is by far the best when the quarterbacks are coming out right now and putting up the numbers of jalen hurts tonight against lesser opponents phone. It's of course we can all talk about it because most of the other ones did the same thing. I mean kelly mine did the same thing all these things so it's like but then into come out and say well. Do they get to play houston. All your will doesn't get to play texas state. All year to louis doesn't get to play a lesser person all these different quarterbacks that don't and it's like i understand on your hate on on justin herbert. We can get into that later in the podcast but we can't take anything away from what he did tonight. Jalen hurts did. I'm not if i'm answering doing doing her four quarterbacks in the country well that's fine but i do like i would like to go on the record and say that i did not say anything to any oklahoma. Go home fans about you. The only thing about you all weekend was using the g word. I know we talked about that in the podcast you but if you have a gripe to pick with anybody that's that's big cat because she did heated three right under the bus on that one all right fun fun. Don't worry i still love you used to love me. It's all good yes. I'm going to have some more wine because it tastes pretty good tonight when i've been right burns and are you sleepy. I'm very tired eleven o'clock at night. I i'm generally not up. At this time. I'm ready to go to bed. I'm gonna go downstairs and want to start from nineteen eighty nine lead and i'll wake up tomorrow and a world in her. Apparently dominates hurts you. You were fantastic tonight. Nobody done away from you and hear he might spend here making me look like an idiot brandon. Do you think i know what the star cade reference was or now. I'm going to guess no all right i do. It wasn't what about you calling football w._c._w. Damn you fight tonight brandon. I'm not far too sensitive tonight. That's all it is. I'm i'm very i'm very happy. I will say i will say that. I and i know we get into this in the past few i um i eat crow about missouri so i'm kinda salty about that one but i think overall we had a good week and this is a great way to cap off the monday episode. Don't you think yeah even though this isn't really capturing off of money upto 'cause he's actually what's the rest the episode yet because this is going to be capping off the week. I mean capping off the week podcast so you tuesday's jose by is. I'm just gonna put it out there right now. I talked about all disappointment but not everybody was disappointing not every fan in basis hurting today not every fan base is mad today and i know one specific lay down in s._e._c. country. That's feeling really good in your mind casey and then i'll go to jacquelyn. I'll come to myself who won the weekend. It can be a coach. It can be a player fan. Base can be a team who won this weekend. Well the easiest chuck answers auburn because we sat on in this podcast we saw it on the college football show and talked about how we thought oregon was going to be prepared to beat auburn. We didn't know a bone knicks was going to look like i'm going to take it even further and i'm going to say the bone nicks one this week because it was obviously the marquee game. Everybody was paying attention to it and he had that really clutch throw at the end of the game. We all know that south williams which by the way was not a great thrower worker it was a great catch and it was just not a great decision obviously worked out well but the reason i say was was now everybody's talking about oh the legend of bone knicks. He's a true freshman. He did not play a great football football game yesterday and i'm not trying to hate on them. They obviously played to win but he looked like a freshman under pressure. He made a lot of bad decisions. A couple of horrible turnovers gus malzahn didn't call a great game but by the end of the the way that it all played out now we're talking about the legend of bonex and it reminded me of when am beat south carolina a few years ago with kenny hill now like oh my god he's going to win the heisman two thousand fourteen then he transferred out in the middle of the season because he couldn't get it together. I'm not saying that's going to happen but the way people are talking about him right now is that he's going to win the heisman trophy. That's a great <hes> great comparison right. They're very after it was also in the first game of the year. I think it was thursday night though but i gotta say auburn wins the weekend because they they won the marquee match up exactly and it was a good game i now it's remarkable. How many things oregon had to do to lose that football game. It was incredible. The legend bonex bonex makes me laugh out loud that he was terrible and he will be good in his career. He will be very good and he just beat a top fifteen teams first timeout. That's great. That's phenomenal. That's better than ninety nine point nine percent of quarterbacks in their first start do but he wasn't very good. I give credit to gus malzahn for sticking with with him for sticking with their offense and offensive line that running back winning the game for auburn. I give credit for them. Never getting away from who they are battling battling and they never had control that game mm-hmm till the last ten seconds auburn's defense which we turn very good and we didn't know exactly what they were going to be able to do against an offense like organs. Obviously it played out the way it did but they were able to keep the offense in the game. I have a take jack abba take from this game and it goes away from got takes coming later but i gotta say it right now right off the top up. Can we get past. Can we forget this conversation and this narrative that justin herbert is an elite quarterback. Yeah i'm not do he's not there's nothing special about him last night. An elite quarterback is not losing that football. Have you seen the depth chart of the wide receiver situation. I don't care case lost two of their starting running backs and again. I'm not ready to put him. He lost her freshman quarterback. I still i don't think it was because bo knicks is just that much better other than him. I do not believe that now again. I obviously very high on oregon. I can make an apology to auburn because i did not think they were going to win that game but i don't look at what justin herbert is able to do with all all the things around him because again i saw it on twitter today where it's like like literally the entire depth chart for wide receivers scratched out right now they to injuries in the backfield and he still was able to keep them in that game whereas auburn if their defense was even just a little bit worse bo nixon had a chance at the end of the game. You say kept them in the game. Oregon twenty one points what midway through the second corps was. They had twenty at one point and they were going. They were going to score another touchdown on that play where there is a big cat. Brian returned it for almost one hundred yards by by the way bryan addison just literally having the ball hit him in the chest in the back of the endzone. Justin herbert could not have placed that ball anymore perfectly and it hit him right in the numbers and then it didn't obviously that ended up scoring a touchdown on that drive. That's not just an herbert's fall. That's the players around. I'm sorry casey. I don't think an elite n._f._l. Prospect we also this elite n._f._o. Prospect aspect. I think maybe a meth. Are we sure that he came back because he wanted to win with oregon or did he get let known hey justin. We have a lot of questions about you and you need to prove it. Next year could easily be a media narrative because that's what everybody spends. All summer doing is like oh. He must be coming back because he wants someone with oregon. If he knew he he was gonna be a first rounder and he knew he was going to have a spot in the n._f._l. Right away probably would've gone but that could have been a media narrative. We don't know obviously i the game last night and say justin herbert stinks. I don't think he stinks. I just don't think he's i think he's a very good quarterback. Who's saying he's a lethal. Everybody has been saying. I know where to lead. Lead is just anytime flacco elite. Okay ms on you see a list of three to five heisman candidates justin herbert's on that list every single time i. I don't think he belongs with to get out of here. Not even he belongs with jake frahm and potentially just feels. I understand that there's another guy we're back yeah but as high as i am on organ or was on organ a nice still think that they have a chance to win the panel. That was another thing. I was like getting chirped at all night last night. After the game like oh you still think they can win. The patch hundred percent you realize that this game has zero to do with the pack twelve right and the jazz literally nothing to do and then when played auburn very hey good s._e._c. team. That's going to have a lot to say s._e._c. race to the wire. I don't know i still think gus malzahn finds. Its way on the hot seat. I listen to college station loses and then october. If you know i just i think he finds his way on the hot seat this. How many lives has gus malzahn us. He knows how to how to survive. He knows he's like a cat with nine lives. That's fine but auburn listen. That sounds too negative auburn won. The week and bonex has every right to be walking around does think about all the girls that are coming out to him. Can you imagine those sorts. We had like they were girls running. I not not taking away from him. As a true freshman markey game i got the only big game of the weekend i understand there's going to be pressure but we're acting as if he's just like the best thing of all time right now and he played not not a great football game or a second imagine all those girls coming at you in college. I was in college. It was just like me and bonex very similar haircuts. Can i just say yeah big big big mess for not having bama banks. That guy needs to have bambi. He needs to take his helmet off and have the flow. You're going to be the s._e._c. Quarterback legendary engine dairy guy you can't have hair like legitimately concerned for his dad most of most of the night because he did not look like he was enjoying that game no would you be no i absolutely wouldn't but but he didn't look until the very end of course it was the most relieved human being i think on planet earth be terrifying terrifying college football player and especially when you're already legendary endear yourself in in a specific way. Can i give my heartache or winner of the week yeah. That's also on the show jack not as much as i think you guys aren't going to like like this is going to be a surprise my winter the weeks l._s._u. I actually that's not surprising to me. I liked that one fifty five to three right. They look really good against the bad team but they historically historically don't even treat those bad teams like offense. I like the new offense. I think they go in to texas week and just dismantle them not dismantled antelope. They went by ten well. That's that's certainly a take and we will talk about that game a lot this week. <hes> i actually fan hotcakes and they have a hot. Take about that game as well there we got doc l._s._u. Look really really good texas. Inland low tech forty five twenty one then look down bullshit about texas being back though when they beat teams like that. Can i already already hate. The texas is back things but come on each case day early like show some class or something. I don't understand why we're doing that like if they come out and beat l._s._u. And you want to beat the drum of texas back that's fine but the all the tweets i saw for texas back when you beat louisiana lafayette yesterday louisiana tech tech same note different louisiana lafayette much better team. They embarrassed not embarrassing to start. Something happened in that game. That's that's. That's why it's on my brain regardless. You know what it is. It's louisiana team that's not l._s._u. You just wanna rip the band aid off. Should we just go and talk about this. It's up to you. I like my team. Got the job done. Let's let's be honest. We did the college football show and it was phenomenal. I mean great debut for us on the college. Football show nominated tale holler at your clemson here. We come coming this weekend to see you guys in clemson south carolina. It's going to be so hot. I are are stone. Call lots of the a week when the show all six law never happened once last year so we were due for a bad week. The problem is now. It's going to happen is everyone's gonna yeah. Fade all of our picks five and one or six next week probably true lock instead of being an emotional little child. I would have been okay. Klay yourself a bitch edge. I was if i if i had done that but so i- guaranteed mississippi state to cover the spread the word you can't do that yeah so twenty and a half points. They ended up winning by ten so i am now in front of dave in big cat. I guaranteed it and i am going to deal with the consequences of that. Whatever whatever i don't care i'm a grown man. I can take take it. You're forty. I'm forty also having tomorrow off helps a lot helping. It helps a lot and us doing a show like you. Mentioned live on the road. Rhode helps a lot because we're not going to be sitting in a quiet tv studio on wednesday with it's like really stewing in dave's mind work. You're going to be in front of people there's going to be the live crowd but i knew you so. If you're listening to this podcast and you don't watch the show. There's a moment where i introduced the locks and we get to brandon and he mentions mississippi state and big cat ask you are you only only doing this because it's your team and you said no and i was on board with you and as soon as you said i guarantee it and i saw the looks and both of their eyes as degenerate degenerate gamblers as they are. I was like you are toast toast. It's just so i still believe in the things i believe before i made the guarantee. We just played so crappy. We we play like a team who was allergic covering the point spread. We're not gonna talk about mississippi state here because that's boring but it is what it is. I have an idea for you. Let's your lot one very good either casing racing and i asked him you know i will own that horrible. I don't know what barry odom is doing. I don't know derek dooley is doing. I don't know what that entire football football team is doing but i didn't put the g word on it and that's where you're screwed. We're going to get to the most <hes> most disappointing teams which is a longer list wait. I have an idea for you though oh an idea for me to get out of the doghouse with dave. I don't know it's not going to get you out of the doghouse but i think it'd be funny. Okay go ahead. Have you seen a christmas story. You know whatever ralphie shows up with the gigantic organic fruit basket. I wanna watch you walk through this office while big cat kalsi ralphie says his new nickname for you with you carrying the biggest gift basket full of fruit i've ever seen in just put it in office. Listen don't say anything walkout. <hes> i wanna see it so badly. <hes> they're calling you ralphie from christmastime no and you keep calling me that and you're you're in graining and people's mind the stop that but you can you imagine rafi bull situation when he first got hired. How funny that was bowl situation was amazing so he's got to do something top. The bowl by the way still sits in his desk. That's i didn't know much. Trash also sits on his desk to tracy p._c. It what is what's happening on with you i. I'm trying to get you back in good grace arm fine. I'm fine. I'm brandon fucking walker. I'm good. You don't like a good gift basket who doesn't like a good gift basket. Meats and cheeses should have like all the fruits of the meat and cheeses jams. Maybe some wine and they're also helped upped that was not in his own home in new york. He was out on the road in vegas. I don't even know if you watch the game. Oh he watched it. He was tweeting it. It's bad okay so he was watching it. He didn't i saw the tweets. I just assumed he was nice chain smokers. I think he was at a pool party in vegas so i think that helps like for you. Were thrown around a lot of things in your favor. I know we're going to talk about this later but what you really need to do even though you're not on this beat. Is you need houston to win tonight. Yeah maybe because he's got houston money line. Which is the dumbest thing it would be insane if it one though but i i'm going to be honest. I might walk into that college. Football show next saturday with another guarantee. I haven't ruled that out have a gift basket. I haven't ruled that out. I big nuts walker. I don't care barsial. Bets is launching. It's about to be massive. Don't be huge. You guys are never gonna leave this office. I never do anyway. It's going to be ridiculous but it's gonna be so fun so much to do. Unless you go to hooters then you'll leave the office. There's one four blocks from here. I've already been i love it. It's amazing you. Marty mush went because it provides obviously the best football doing any serious fan wants to be at t._v.'s a lot of games lot of atmosphere fantastic place to watch football a lot of the world famous hooters peter's girls to the most beautiful girls on the planet yeah that was also their mardi. Mush is going to hooters for the girls. Mardi mush completely spent the whole time about the girl's talking to the girls and and but it was it was beautiful had the t._v.'s have the food the wings were delicious side pickles the for they gave us the fraud barrels. They were so good. Oh good basically hooters is the best place to watch football. Cater talks with cheese on top. Come on come on. What do you got beautiful lemon. You've got football and you've got good foods so if you love all three of those things brandon which i know you do you should go to your local hooters every single monday night <hes> mhm y moneyball aired as it's a big deal so you get to answer a series of props for your chance to win. Food swag cash prizes even a trip to the big game. Come temporary hooters wings girls gambling. Come on get in on the action hooters moneyball dot com every monday night. Go enjoy the best football watching experience. It's out there. Let's talk about most impressive teams. Get one because the list the most disappointing teams is longer. I'm just gonna run through and we can stop and talk and pick the flowers along the way but these teams that stood out to me as well. They looked better than i anticipated. They look really good. Maybe look as advertised but these are the teams that impressed me start art on friday night with the wisconsin badgers jonathan taylor going down to south florida and beating the ever living crap out of the south florida bulls now. That's not an easy easy thing to do. I know south florida's. Not i mean they're not. They're not a ranked team. They're not even probably a good team but going to them and doing what they did jonathan taylor playing the way he did. I got to clarify my position john taylor because a lot of wisconsin fans think i'm down on him. I'm not i think he's one of the two or three best players in the country. My position on him says that they're just not going to give a running heisman trophy like it's so difficult for a running back to win the eisman trophy he he rushed for twenty one hundred yards last year and finished ninth now. He started on prime time on a friday with all the eyes of the nation. He's got a pretty good start to this year's race. You look good. Wisconsin look really really good and i think a lot of times when you see the heisman is when trophy hype around a running back like bryce love had that last year and then it just didn't come to fruition. It's like you have that mixture and then also just how devalued running backs usually are when they're talking about in the league league. I mean we're watching the ezekiel elliott stuff unfold right now so for some reason there's that stigma on that position even in college where he could come out and have an incredible season but if trevor trevor lawrence is having his type of season. He's not even going to be in the question or in the conversation that he looked so good friday. The utah us yes go to a arrival and just absolutely smother b._y._u.'s offense. That defense looks legit. That looks like a national title contending defense. I don't know offensively defensively if they can get there but they look like a team who can win the pac twelve and contend for a playoff spot. How 'bout that pill tyler tyler hong lease great zac. Moss looks very good running. Amok from this there was one play where almost tackled him in the end zone and he just lands on one lag and i think ninety nine point nine percent of the world's population windfall he somehow catches himself and turns it into a seven yard. I i saw a stat. Maybe it was pro. Football focus one one of those services that said he he averages the most yards after contact in the nation and you if you watch them. It's very apparent that that's not a made up stat that such an athlete this one's for you casey now they didn't. They didn't beat a great team <hes> but they want a game. I don't think anybody thought they were gonna win. And that is the north carolina tar tarheels. They played south carolina on neutral site. Most people thought south carolina's gonna win including me. We'll talk about south carolina a little bit later in our disappointing teams or maybe even our shitless because we'll must finished. He is he's done. I don't know what they did all summer. I don't know what they we'll get to them. Later lot aesthete's s._e._c. teams like that. What did they do. Mack brown's just walked right back into college football and just just absolutely mack brown one one hundred twelve years old walks in north carolina wednesday first game and frankly they play miami. They host miami too. He can have that team ranked after two weeks. Which is who's in sunday. One to football games is incredible that i look mack brown obviously legendary coach at texas and when they got rid of him and they haven't been able to really get back to that like it's always the grass is always greener. I loved working with mack brown when i was at e._s._p._n. And it was very hard as an aggie to admit that but he he's just such a great football coach for the storyline and him crying after the game last night in the interview with allison williams and then dancing the locker room and you can tell that these guys are so hyped up to play for him. I love it. Humble brag reached out to him. He reached back out to me and said that he lives for the comeback so this one meant a lot to him. I hadn't thought that one. I just love the browns texting sexton casey smith on saturday night after i text him i i know i know some just agla. I like that he responded. It's a it's a former e._s._p._n. Family it's not like i just like randomly family got. It got his slit it out of bars excuses we don't. We don't think he's trying to slaughter i. I was very excited to see that for him. Him and you can tell also with like all the just the media people probably not thinking he was going to go in and get that team turnaround as fast and grit. We don't know it's gonna look like but south. Carolina should never have lost austat football game trash. We'll talk about them. In a little bit virginia. The virginia cavaliers go on the road. Play conference game beat pitt thirty. Two fourteen threw a shutout. The second half virginia is legit. I think they win their division this year well. That's just a team. That impressed me washington jacobson. They look really good pennzoil so you've and you've been high. Oh i've been hiring on big time. Quarterbacks didn't have a a bad weekend well georgia transfer quarter transfer. Our quarterbacks were pretty good jacobson. Now you get down to you know kelly bryant. We got problems. I was hoping you didn't catch that. We'll get to that penn. State beat the pants. That's awesome. Somebody was seventy nine seven something like that. They looked really good l._s._u. We mentioned him earlier but they just they look good. The boise state broncos go into new tallahassee in front of at least seventy five hundred rabid foe to state fans. Why were there so. Why was it so empty. I understand there's a hurricane off the coast but this turned into a home game with general admission for florida state. Are they that upset or they vet apathetic to willie taggart over any i think so because i was i know that neither of those teams were ranked right but when i set it on the podcast last week and i tweeted it yesterday because i knew florida say it was going to lose that game and i said i picked boise state as an upset which by the way it's still upset. It was vegas upset and it's a non non power five versus power five school and percent people that kept coming at me like this. Isn't it ups and i'm like well. You're just stupid if you don't think that but the amount of florida's assailant hostile i i know okay go ahead. I mean well also. I'm right to the floors. They've fans aren't there because they're just on twitter all day. Florida state earlier rabid fan base knowles old twitter and that's the thing is if you you would be so pissed after they missed the ball game last year that i can understand how they're like you know we just don't i believe in this guy coming in this year. I understand kindle browse who i absolutely cannot stand that entire family. I understand he's supposed to come in his offense looked. They look pretty good in the first half but blowing being an eighteen point lead to boise state your home opener or not home opener but pretty much a home opener willie taggart true or false makes it to the makes makes it through this season well. I was a support of willie taggart on our last podcast podcasts before and i wrote a blog yesterday saying that take from he's not looking too hot right and the thing about it is you can lose football games. You can't lose the fan base. There were about fifteen thousand people at a high believe when they would do wide shots. It's embarrassing. It'll people were there. Once you lose the fan base you're done he's done. He's a walking dead man. There's no chance he he i saw that that i think it was in the past eighty eight games or eighty seven games florida's state when they were up by at least eighteen in the second half was eighty six one yesterday was the second time they blew. We've liked history. You're a florida state fan and you know it's not like they've been out here just like winning millions of national championships but they don't lose games like that. They don't do it and they don't miss bowl games. How long was their streak. Something clergy decades and decades so that game yesterday just shows that either last last year. It was really really seeing the true talent that he can't. He just can't put together on the field or they just don't like playing for him. It's one of the other and you can't lose to boise state. You just yep when when you're up eighteen it doesn't matter how good boise state is you can't so let me just wrap up this positively this these impressive teams so this was this was the a positive thing the the tone of college football right now is everybody's just garbage garbage. Everybody deserves to be fired. I understand most impressive teams james. I'm just gonna wrap. Wrap it up by saying the elite of the elite look on a different level than everybody else. It seems like the gap between the haves at the you know the top top eight top nine and the rest of the teams in the country is wider and wider and wider clemson look good. I mean not even close with them. In georgia tech clemson's gonna cruiser that conference conference alabama easy way judy is oh that touchdown he scored to put it put them up twenty eight when there's like three guys around him and he just ran backwards and then somehow ran twenty five into the end zone it was just it showed the difference between the athletes that go to duke and go to alabama. It's just so massive. The gap is so big. I saw my friends. That aren't big college. Football fans are big n._f._l. People when they start tweeting about college football players this early in the season. It's because they're like i want my team to have him so many so many of my friends like jerry jerry we need judy's ridiculous the whole team though i mean they they have the best skill players i've ever had under saving alabama. I still think their defense is going to get the heart attack at some point this season but those players are unbelievable. Last wasn't great either that continued last impressive. Team isn't a team at all. It's a conference <hes>. How about the mountain west jack. The mountain west the mountain west conference beating the s._e._c. beating the a._c._c. beating several other conferences pretty good day for the mountain west. No the mountain west probably probably the winner of the g. five for so far this season i easily especially after south florida embarrassing themselves against the wisconsin gist and we'll see the big game for the a._c. The sheer is definitely probably u._c._f. Against stanford in two weeks memphis beadle mess but ole miss stinks thanks for having gone terrible people several fan base and they really don't deserve to be in power five football anymore one little little aggressive one one of the weekend. I was really impressed by oklahoma state. I know it's late friday thirty six at oregon state yeah but <hes> thailand wallace real good and then this guy spencer robinson the quarterback spencer sanders sanders. I i apologize spencer sanders that guy is he's a true freshman who yeah he he. He took away. He said no to offers from him l._s._u. Bama oklahoma oklahoma state <hes> the princeton offense is there because they brought in a princeton offense coach. They'd be their offense coordinator pete career. Yeah i think yeah that's his name his name. That's an old princeton never mind <hes> though was brutal probably take that one out of the podcast or <hes> no oklahoma state oklahoma state. I like it now. Let's get to the most no case. He has her hand in the air realize because we're talking about all the the negatives but we kind of glossed over it but what you think about justin feels in ohio state you know he had that big run early. Okay the fifty one yard touchdown run and i when i saw on twitter justin feels feels like he's hitting the ground running or something you know clever captions and i watched the run. I'm like boy. I hope he ran that for a touchdown because golf cart through. I mean there's there's literally nobody within five i mean i guess he looked good but that didn't tell me anything because at first touchdown run he literally ran through five yard art hole and never got breathed on yeah okay. He looks pretty good. You're desperate formed. Wanna look good. That's that's fine. You can have this weekend. We'll see going forward. Benz looked good too. I understand they're applying wou <hes> just a way lesser opponent but it was just so much fun to just trash on tape marquel about it. It was fun. It was fun such a hater well well he he he started out being committed to texas so there's i think that's tate martell. Yes yes so you know. It's the whole like he's asked dude and the whole thing but i do think it's funny like justin fields when he just took off like that. The entire internet exploded which is how good he looks to you and i mean ohio state played a nobody yesterday. Michigan didn't look fantastic and tasks are now. It's like ohio state's gonna win the big ten like we need to calm down here. It just didn't play that way yesterday. That'd be more of an indictment on the georgia recruiting process so immature sure of you to hold on the beef because a guy spurned your team. Well that'd big video game remember but casey brought it up <hes> she brought up fucking that thursday night that thursday night game between south carolina and texas am fucking. It was probably what three months slater remarks later that literally every quarterback from texas am transferred that's true and then that included one quarterback who ended up winning the heisman that is also very true so it's kind of hard to forget to be nagy. Yeah what's coming fourteen team or they come in the next year. He was on that team. Okay excuse me starring all right so most kyle allen were oh. That might have been this year kellyn monde. This is the this is the first year back to back from the same starting quarterback since johnny manziel was going to be really good through. I knows against texas state but he was throwing some balls on thursday night that were just they looked. I mean they're a perfectly placed. You guys got some players. Next weekend is going to be interesting. Take that line eighteen who'll i <hes>. I'm so far on texas a. and i'm right now. Maybe i'll talk myself out of it but we'll talk about that later in the week later in the past. We need to get back to week one in the dumpster fire. Some of these teams most disappointing teams go. Here's another collective. How about the s._e._c. East georgia outside of georgia and florida passes well. I'm gonna give florida passe play miami. I can kentucky struggle that game by seventy five the way it feels you struggled against toledo. It feels like it was three months ago. Yeah south carolina gross gross garbage. Arkansas almost lost the portland. Stay there in the west. We're just doing the east roka yeah. Sorry my bet. You're right you're right s._e._c. Outside of the elite teams okay arkansas won by seven points tennessee. Maybe the worst loss in program history. I don't think it is by far the sauce on just say something right now good good because a couple of years ago they tried to hire greg xiang johnno and tennessee fans jumped on him and change everything and ran ran off and let some big-time powerbrokers in the media dictate who was going to be the coach. They did all that and they revolted and look what you got. You got jeremy pruitt old dang. Oh shucks can't coach fucking lick can't coach you are caceres. You are blockbuster video. The nineties are never coming back and tennessee unless you change everything about your culture and fan base you as a program and a fan. The base are f. T. fucked. I liked that. I don't know i'm i let it out. Let the hate out but i don't. I don't hate them to see fans because tennessee fans want what what we all want. They want their team to win. They won't their team to be on top. Tennessee fans just get lied to a lot they get line to by. The media saying tennessee is going to be pretty good this year. They get line to buy the recruiting rankings saying if they sign what tennessee there four or five star. You don't have a good players. Here's my question for this because i agree. I said this about south carolina earlier here again. It's just an s._e._c. trend because the especially the east look so bad this weekend but i what were they doing all summer. What were they doing in the off season. Is this a problem because butch jones was just so bad at loading his team up or is this a jeremy pruitt problem. Whose problem is it. You can't blame this on on butch jones. I know your second year sure you can get enough talent. You can get enough mindset. You can get enough culture to beat georgia state and that's it goes back to the florida state argument of people blaming jimbo fisher for leaving and with willie taggart. I understand that but at the same time tennessee had a really hard time competing when he was there so is there any kind of run off from him. You think oh yeah they're still run off. You're still trying to fix the mess that he left but you should have it fixed to the point that you're beating georgia state at home and then georgia state's coach said ed after the game western kentucky the win against western kentucky few years ago was the biggest one in program history not the one against tennessee he should so disrespectful this respect that but that's like he's even trash talk and after the game sean elliott i mean that guy's shirt was what the second the game start are not just from sweat that guys kinda reminds me of <hes> who's the coach at arizona basketball. <hes> shawn miller shawn miller just sweat through sweat through the is that a word sweat through the polo. I like a sweat through sweat through the polo of his but big one yeah i. I don't think you can blame butch. There's players there. There's talent there. There's no. I'm just curious. Why why does this happen. How does this happen. I will say this about tennessee fans. I i feel bad for you because i think everybody has a college. Football fan should feel bad for you because this i've been there brother. Listen you wait all off season. You've got jeremy pruitt going into the second year. You tell yourself at least things are on the upswing. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting bigger and you wait july and june and may and in august and you get here and your team just shits the bed and now you're just laying in a bed full of shit and shit is not pleasant. I don't know what is to come up tennessee z. Can they rebound. Can they can make what do they do. What are you what are you are you. Are you just done this year. I think i feel like because and again again. It's just so funny that we always talk about the s._e._c. being the premium primo conference and all that when they looks so bad outside the big teams you know that they're not winning the east. It doesn't matter they're not gonna they. Georgia is winning the s._e._c. east and you look around and now it's just like what's the point. You just try not to get second best. 'cause nobody's beating georgia. I guess the step for them. For tennessee is to make a bowl and the good thing is they can do that. I don't think they can't either but if you look around you're surrounded by a lot of other crap south carolina worth a crap missouri. This is who they're playing missouri. Carolina kentucky look bad vanderbilt. Kentucky was down what fourteen to zero for a little bit. I think tennessee also host. I'm just gonna go and throw my team and their tickets. We didn't look good. They host mississippi state. The opportunities are there jeremy. Pruitt is worth his salt as a coach to turn this thing around this year i just i. I just don't think there's any any reference or any proof that he's any good whatsoever. I think that you've got georgia obviously at the top you've got florida still in the mix and then it it is so far down everybody else and i apologize for my missouri lock because i really thought that they were gonna with kelly bryant. I'm sorry national championship quarterback. I can't believe how bad the s._e._c. east looked weekend. I really can't it was atrocious and then arkansas and frankly mississippi state no mess in the west none of those. It's three teams look we did win. The game. Arkansas did want a game <hes> but i will say the powerbrokers in the s._e._c. The top six were in the top sixteen. All looked really good albums. Look good georgia. Look good auburn did what they did an look good l._s._u. Look good so i i think the top of the s._e._c. is okay but boy you really fall off a cliff when you get to florida and florida number six and that's why when you start having the conversation about which conferences are better. That's why the big ten keeps. I mean you can make the argument now because from top to the bottom the big ten looks so much fucking better than the s._e._c. right now hold on there. The big east does look good but i gotta say i've been pimping. The big ten west like nobody's business as is a collective. The big ten west is not far behind the s._e._c. Disappointment this week purdue house purdue go out there and lose that game nevada northwestern can't score your they look terrible. That game was exactly what we thought it would be. North western stanford you could not have scripted more perfectly from northwestern's thirty six yard line by stanford. I think big cat perfect literally predicted that on on our show what he did he predicted the score of the game before that bad yeah beat. He said this game is going to be ten seven. That's exactly what it would have been if that fumble and happened to last twenty seconds but minnesota disappointing that was ugly. I will say south south. Dakota state is a very good team. Okay fair enough nebraska struggle. He's alabama one of the worst teams in the country this year and they they they were within two scores again. If i'm wisconsin i work the rest of the big ten west right now feeling pretty darn good. I'm gonna talk about nebraska when we get to the shit list but i also oh might oversold adrian martinez a little bit tone. You khalil tate to point out but i'll just wait. I'll wait till we get to the sheila's but nebraska is just so. I mentioned l. several s._e._c. Teams big teams missouri of course south carolina completely disappointing how state who i've been pimping as well northern learn iowa twenty-nine twenty-six overtime and that's that's a rough look so okay then does that change your opinion on the big twelve or you're gonna wait not really. Here's the thing we we do. We and we're doing a podcast and we won't people listen to it. We do do that. We are completely prisoners of the moment and we do act like as a collective of fans across the country that what you are are we want is what you are every single year. We go through. This happens just on cue. Everybody overreacts but i do feel like this year. Maybe it's just because it is recency bias but this year there were so many more disappointments than normal that's fine but not every team at this point in this week is going to remain disappointment and i alwa- state is one trip this week yeah but i think i still feel good. They'll be in two weeks at home. I still feel good about <hes>. I feel good about state season. I still feel good about minnesota because it's disappointing. Were you're right south dakota state. We didn't give enough credit. I certainly didn't there are teams. That look bad this weekend. That's why if you're what are you doing. I didn't mean to touch him. Sorry i'm trying to play footsie with you under the desk. She's and rice casey okay so there are teams that look bad this weekend. That will not look ban. That's you you know who the number one team that gives me hope now that we're talking about who looked back in week one but who could be better florida florida. I don't even think they looked bad. They comparatively apparently bad to what we thought they would look like. That's that's probably on us. I think i team is missouri. They'll be fine so over them right now. Yeah i know i'm going to be a girl in missouri. Main reason we were on missouri was because of that easy easy schedule but if you can't go to wyoming and win that's very easy. I will not even just the schedule again kelly bryant. What are they doing with kelly bryant well. He's not that good who'd but i but understanding going into the season. It was like okay well. He got beat up by trevor lawrence. Who is the best quarterback in the country that he was able to have some success at clemson. I mean he was very a good. Let them know national championship the whole thing you you still don't lose to wyoming even if you're not as hyped. I still think it's tough tough to play that. Altitude is the first time i ever did it. They looked really good early. Fourteen nothing look like they were going to win. Forty five to fourteen took the pedal off the metal and then they ended up losing in there was one of those things that there there was things that went against them. There's a fumble return that one all the way back that may if bounces one way or another it doesn't happen like that. They end up winning. Kelly kelly brian still thirty one for forty eight four hundred twenty three yards two touchdowns. They also could not stop the run for shit. They could not stop anything really hundred yards mountain west shame wyoming's not the greatest mountain and then use it just like i understand. We're giving a lot of credit to the mountain west. It's very deserved but if you can't stop the run run against mountain west team. You are doomed in the power five where i was wrong. This segment is where i tell you where i was wrong going into week one. That's we'll do it every week because i will be wrong about out something every week now right about a lot of things i was writing about other things you are but i was wrong about three teams. I was wrong about missouri sign. I had missouri as a possible ten win team second best team in the east. No that's wrong. That's not gonna happen. I was wrong about florida state. I thought it was a bounce back. Here thought they were gonna handle. Little boys state with these and they were gonna win nine games and be a factor in the a._c._c. that that's wrong. That's not right at all. The last time i was wrong about. What's the mississippi state bulldogs walks. I thought they would beat the brakes of louisiana lafayette. I thought defensively we would mitigate our losses are suspension losses by having bob shoop a very good a defensive coordinator. I thought we'd handle louisiana lafayette and then be ready for the s._e._c. West in a couple of weeks. I was wrong didn't didn't look all that good. It was a struggle offense. The tommy stevens look really good kyle and one of the best running backs in the country. Nobody knows about but defensively it's gonna be. It's gonna be transition year for us. So i was wrong about those. Three t three retains anybody for you. I was wrong about missouri already talked about that. I was wrong about organ beating auburn. Are you talked about also wrong about organ beating auburn credit to you over. I was very very very sure that we're gonna win that game. Even i sure until the last twenty seconds of that game there was no doubt in my mind and then i was wrong about nebraska i still i think that it i'm not gonna say completely that they're just going to be a garbage team this year but adrian martinez cinema score a touchdown yesterday that you can't have that you can't have affect your chrome when i don't have a crush on him <hes> that you know what that was what that was sexist no jaycees just every every time he's come up in the last couple of weeks. It's been uncomfortable hadn't no yeah you love mar. I bought him hype. I bought into the hype. I bought into the nebraska hype a little bit but i'm so over them because then we'll get to why has has nothing to do with actual football but i do. I still think that they will be a contender. I they are not going to win that conference by any means i think they'll be in the mix but i did not expect that offense to look the way that it did yesterday and i think what scored three defensive touchdowns obviously. That's the only reason they won that game. You can't have that the shit list. Let's go. I'm here here for it is a list that we will add to all season petty thing that we're doing all get one thing to add to the shit list every single week so you'll have one thing to add had every week casey as well you jack myself included can be a coach can be a player and be a moment can be a fan base could be whatever you want it to be got somebody that stands out head and shoulders above the rest of the shadiness during the week of college football who would like to go. I i can go first jack. Go first. We talked about them already already but i'm adding tennessee and jeremy pruitt to the shit list tennessee slash emmy or one or the other <hes> just go ahead and adam both adam ball. I'm gonna say tennessee in jeremy pruitt. We're going to keep track of the shitless some typing it down right now as i speak they broke my friend connor naps heart conforto oh you should you should have seen him. We watched it here. He was here he said before the game and during the game hey this is going to be the only game. I'm gonna watch here because because we're gonna win this one. It's going to be easy and i will not be able to be here when they play s._e._c. Because i'm gonna go crazy and then it just didn't look good and it was seven nothing georgia state then tennessee kinda took a lead and then before you know it george day was up again and he laughed before the game was even over. I've been there man. I've been there. I can't hate on the kid. I've been i've come into seasons with with expectations and it says we lose at first game. I just don't know how much further i can go. I think this uses pardon the this joke but rocky bottom such a dad joe. Lee's i'm really glad that you tape can hear this. Jack people can hear this is a joke. I think this is rocky. Bottom for tennessee. See never been this low before shitless. They are on my shit list and i believe in them when connor knapp was saying they'll go seven five. Maybe four this year. I said you're right. I believe i believe they should actually be on the shitless for every college football fan because it's so embarrassing it's just i don't care if you like the s._e._c. I don't care if you like tennis yonker if you if you are a college football fan you should put them on the show is because of how bad that loss was embarrassed. Jeremy pruitt come on and i believed in him to that impersonation enough him that you had about twenty minutes ago yeah a+ he's he's dang it shocks in a in a bubble. He's a character who apparently can't coach yeah. I yeah maybe just go back to being a defensive coordinator and call it a couple of years ago. Mississippi state was hiring and jeremy pruitt was a rumored attended and i was all about it. I won't jeremy pruitt worn warning bad and then we hired. Somebody named joe moorhead yes. I didn't even know who he was and it's been rock. It hasn't been great under joe moran. It's the little rock bottom but not rock bottom but it's been you know a little bit of this a little bit of that <hes> but i thank god. We didn't heart jeremy pruitt. Thank god god. What did you see. I think if you ask me on thursday about jeremy pruitt i said no. I think it's working out they. They're bringing some good recruits. They've had some good <music> game some bad games you gotta give him some time after that one. I'm not going to put the nail in the coffin yet but jeremy pruitt the jury is really really out on you and you're on your on our shitless now and i think we both you guys agree with me. Good addition you guys will have other ones but they're shitless now and you got to do a lot of shit yeah yeah. I was just gonna get off the list. I don't know i think it depends on what you're on there for the rail mine. They can't get off the list yeah. Yours can't get off. Get off. She'll go last. I think she's the main event for the shitless. Oh you you well you think uh-huh oh sorry walker pins on what you would headline the main event because we both have pretty strong takes on the shitless but they're both wildly different. Reasons is why okay so should we. Let's play paper scissors. He's teed me up. I'm going oh all right. We're gonna wind up. No i've been wound up since this guy's. He's been on your shitless for a while. Shit lists for about seven years. Hugh freeze this piece of shit right here this this stunt this embarrassing junior high level of crap this absolute machination laugh hugh freeze to get attention to himself because he has a narcissist and he's a piece of shit bastard who if you're not talking about hugh freeze or have the camera focused on hugh freeze. You're you're doing the wrong shit. Fuck hugh freeze. I do not like him. He is a cheater and if people knew the real things that happened while he was where he was he he wouldn't be coaching college football and he is an absolute trickster and a swindler and this coaching from a damn hospital bed the coaching from a hospital bed in hospital gown with shit with sneakers on you put nikes on you can put some damn coaches shirt on you. Don't have to wear a hospital gown. This was a stunt and embarrassment to liberty an embarrassment to syracuse for having to play. 'em an embarrassment to dino bearers for having appointed phrase. This was an absolute absolute garbage. Look at me. I am hugh freeze. I m pious and boy. I just won't be there for my team. I won't be there so bad. Please make sure the cameras was on me and my bad. Please good christian. He's a fraud and a fake and a phony and liberty should be embarrassed ever hired him and liberty. The first time i am the you got national cameras on your program. It's not about liberty. It's not about your players is not about your fans. It's about hugh freeze in a fucking hospital bed read in the press box. There could be worse thing. I was gonna say there could be worse things. I think he's dead. I know but for liberty. I'm saying worst. Were hang hot. Take care. No publicity is bad publicity. Everyone is talking about all the publicity who freeze brings you. Being a coach is bad publicity. Obviously hugh freeze is odd piece of that. You also hate hugh freeze because aware he used to coach. We can can admit that little bit. A lot of coaches come through there. I don't hate that's okay but the actions he took while they're made me hate understandable. I thought the hospital thing was so ridiculously a funny because of how unintentionally i'm saying i know what they're no. No no no no no. I know he was essentially doing. I'm saying that the visual makes it look like it was just like oh. He's just sick like if you know anything about hugh freeze if you knew nothing about who he was or nothing about his past which a lot of twitter doesn't it looks like it was just a college alleged football thing that was so funny to me the amount of people that were just like this guy. He's laying up in a hospital bed in the booth. It's a funny visual. Can we not admit that. I think it's funny from any way that you paint it. So hugh freeze stories the great bible thump in hugh freeze who we went to ole miss got fired for a massive pretty much sex scandal during on recruiting trips and then he he rebounds rebounds gets closer to god even though he said he was as close guy as he could be then the cheater hugh freeze goes to liberty university. He's not close to god is close to god's checkbook. That's close to and no no. He's at liberty university now. If you go to liberty that means you're even closer to god the chee in wheeling and dealing hugh freeze now at liberty university than in a hospital bed in his i i you can't it's like the greatest college football meme of all time. You're saying iowa video somebody else that was that's unbelievable it was it was almost like too much but it was so funny. It was like we get it. It's a joke thank god i saw and i was like oh people are going to be mad about that on twitter everyone because this was such a funny moment. Everyone came together was was like look at this. It was a clown show. That's what i'm saying all the things you just mentioned because of course if you know that backstory you realize how even more of an just disaster it is but if you you do not follow college football that is still a mean that was everywhere yesterday. I mean he's a football guy of the year. Now i mean there's no. He was coaching a fraud the show it's so funny you don't see that kind of thing happened in any other sport. You would never see that anywhere else but in college football tipple hospital out. What are we talking about liberty player. Nobody's talking about you talking about your coat or zero point the way you're talking about the way that hypocritical piece of garbage full-time i again if it was if liberty was just like playing lightsout out and maybe they had beaten syracuse whenever they had beaten syracuse that hypocritical some bitch would've walked down the field walk not would would not have he would've jumped out that hospital. I am resin. I am saved and i have won the game. Look at me. That's what he would have done but they still would. They only reason they would have talked about as if they beat syracuse. They were not going to be talked either way and it's buffoonery. Let's let's get this right. I mean it's but it is so funny you hugh freeze all right amazing. Hugh freeze amaze on the shit list and if that wasn't the main event. You got a lot to know. That's probably the main event but this is why i said like. Maybe i should have gone because this is on a dark one but here's nebraska can fuck right off with what they did with maurice washington yesterday washington nebraska they can fuck right off. I the the fact is that there are bigger things in life than football. We all know that as much as we live and breathe and die college football they're bigger things the fact that he's going to trial this week for not just any type of felony for child old pornography on tuesday. He's pled not guilty. I understand you know innocent until proven guilty whatever there's plenty of proof against him that scott frost came out at halftime and was like you know well. We're not really running the ball well. We're going to go ahead and bring him back in because football is more important fuck you. You cannot send that message to college football fans. It's it's why i hate kindle brian. It's why i hate browse. Go down the list of all these different scandals that happen all of a sudden. It's like people lose their minds and forget that there are things about being a human even being that are bigger than being a football player or football coach and a football team and that's what they need to do and let's update they were losing and the charges are that he sent of allegedly video twenty six thousand allegedly of his then fifteen year old ex girlfriend being sexually assaulted to the victim herself so he sent it to her like he had this video and apparently allegedly she's being sexually assaulted and then he sent it to her which is illegal on multiple levels and also game day said when they were they had on they said quote unquote maurice washington's having some quote unquote legal issues legal issues choose legal issues. He's like some. He smoked weed or something. That's what i'm saying. It's like they didn't want to come out and say exactly what it was. Why because it's so heinous lee bad and it's like you know the vanderbilt rape rape case. It happened a few years ago. It was like when all those details came out and you're like wait. A minute like this is like really bad people type of thing and he scott frost is just like you know what we're not running the ball well. We might lose this game. We're going to just go ahead and bring him out. Fuck you and fuck that that is not ok on any level. Treat human beings like human beings outside of sports one time for me. I gotta i say something. I think the shitless is off to a strong start jack. What are you hostile. I think this is very good casey. This is another this you may. I have to do it every episode because you had the n._c. Double a. up <hes> rant last week long last thursday which was great degrade on twitter too great for our social social accounts and then this one i mean it was. I'm glad that it got brought up. I just don't understand and other way brock. Hoffman can't play but this guy yeah morris washington. Oh i know that's don't let a guy who's taking care of his sick. Dying mother play football but you know what a guy that has child child pornography charges on his record right now. He's going to trial for it. They're not running the ball well though scott frost needs to bring him on out crossed mother fraud. I'm calling ah right right now. I'm just and i'm doing a big time one eighty on nebraska and again. This isn't because of their football team this is. I can't believe that this kid is out there right now and if it comes out that it's all made up whatever i will eat micro. It's not going to happen but i just don't understand fan bases in general that stand behind things like this just because of a football game i i will say right now. If anything like this ever came out of am anything where it's like just so much bigger than the sport. I could not stand behind. Somebody's still being part of that program. I couldn't do it. Ooh you're right and i think there's a transfer on their team. That also has some legal issues that are as i forget who it is. Some legal issues came day really yeah yes p._f. Moral moral the moral authority of e._s._p._n. Some legal issues. What did you get a traffic ticket parking tickets. Okay the hate out on this beautiful sunday shit list so moment of the weekend a little bit later so we're we're close to wrapping this up so i'm going to cruise through our fan heartaches. I like these by the way for him how to get some interaction going. I like fan hotcakes and you know what the best part about week wanna college football is everything heartache so rattle them off rattle them off right now. Trubisky fan ten says oklahoma state will beat texas on september twenty first and going onto the last game against undefeated. That seems a little too hot well. They look good but is is that hot. I brought it up. I think every single episode walks isn't back until they beat oklahoma state. They play september twenty first which is two weeks from now so when i say that texas back until they actually win the big twelve but we don't have that's the yeah in my case texas could win three national titles in a row and you would still say not now false false. I'll admit they're back. They're back is sam etlinger good quarterback. They're not actors actress because they won one game against l._s._u. At school in louisiana sean oh seventeen that is sean seventeen zero silent sean seventeen says bryce perkins will be a heisman candidate. I don't agree he'll be a heisman candidate because there's too many quarterbacks in front of him but he's really really freaking good. I've been high on him and virginia. I've been all up on bryce perkins. All bone virginia look good. They look good. He's going to be a very very good player and he won't get first-team a._c._c. all conference because he's behind trevor lawrence right. That's the problem you he'll definitely be the conversation of good quarterbacks in the country but it's not the same one and see when a a great defense forces in the throw. We'll see we'll see hunter. Schmidt says illinois beats is nebraska week four and makes their first bowl game under lovey smith okay all right yeah. I don't think so. I don't think they look pretty good akrons bad. They got a big game next weekend. You know it's against <hes> you can't oh dear as if we just didn't know which absolutely smoked wagner <hes> thirty four twenty eight. I thought it was fine. Oh my bad much twenty four twenty one yeah wagner ignorant. I didn't rensselaer rensselaer field was rocking. I sent you guys some focus on all seven of those people they were rock. They were iraq and the big win. One wanna know baby jared a better record than south carolina and tennessee jerry thompson. That's accurate jerry. Thompson says penn state has the best defense in the country. There is a mixture mixture played idaho. We can talk about all the disappointing teams. There's about ten or fifteen teams at just absolutely destroyed shitty teams and are walking around with their liuzhou. Just poked out played idaho now penn state. I we talked about this during our preview. We don't know exactly what they're going to look like. They lost trace mcsorley. They'll also defense is going to be good. I'm not saying that penn state is not gonna be in the conversation in the big ten but you can't go off of that when and puff your chest out andi can't do it says wisconsin is the best team in the big ten west. I will say this. I guess wisconsin fans thought i wasn't being glowing enough about them in the preseason because the fan base that shirt me most in these mentions wisconsin yeah they're feeling themselves and they were saying no you guys didn't talk about wisconsin at all during the talked about a bunch. I said the pride of long island a lot. I mean it's just yeah. It's the wisconsin fan n._b._c. weird that they're like so offended and we're not gonna yeah. We'll see you see what else sorry that we didn't spend like our entire broadcasts on one of the most boring good good teams in college football. That'll fire. I'll take man. I don't know that i agree with that but okay. <hes> many robertson says you and casey were too. Oh hi jerry that's accurate. That's very sad even hot take that's. That's fax surprise jack shop telling you <hes> wisconsin. Fans are all over me. Jonathan austin taylor is the most underrated player in the country. I don't think he's underrated. I think people know he's great. I think that people don't talk about him. As much as wisconsin in the heisman people people if you're wisconsin and van and you turn on whatever you're turning on and he's not being talked about. You're gonna be pissed. Problem is how many elite quarterbacks are two and trevor. It's hard for somebody else to get. Heisman as men is a quarterback trophy in one thing before we move on from wisconsin charlie strong <hes> he could actually just be worst. He could be the worst. That's true it could be the worst they look and it's not like they don't have talent forty nine nothing at home home. I mean you let wisconsin. Wisconsin doesn't wanna beat anybody forty nine th yeah yeah way too nice. How many times did they scored nine points in their schools consultation forcible. They wanna come to your house. They wanna win thirty one fourteen and slap you on the button say good game. We just mauled. You and we'll get some cheese. They don't wanna watch the packers tomorrow charlie strong. I mean what what what one good year grant stereo says. The mountain west is the best g. eighty five conference again not take pretty good take. I think the a._c.'s better at the top but a across the board after this weekend you have to put the mountain west there. I don't know memphis is at the top of the a._c. Right you see atas. Good cincinnati is good yeah. I think cincinnati there was disappointing to make his own mess sucks and they won that is that's. That's a that's fair. Lake hatfield says bo knicks was actually terrible. Lucky to win that game last night showed us we agree i in auburn fans. It's gonna be mad at that take. We don't think it's going to be terrible for the balance of his career. He just didn't play well last night and still one auburn fans that actually watched that entire game could admit met that he did not play completely underestimate auburn fans and they're not thirty one. They have no interest in admitting he didn't play well. He's i. I said that's off the top of the show. He is the big winner of the week because of the heroics that he had at the end of the game seth williams. I understand that still doesn't mean play ball game thirteen for thirty one. I just ran the numbers that's forty. One point nine percent completion percentage a whole only one hundred seventy seven yards two touchdowns two interceptions and also casey you said at the top of the show that throw that they won the game on if you threw it the place he was supposed to throw it it probably was probably just broken up and maybe they still win the game him and then he'll be like oh bo knicks at a like a bad game but they still won but that throw wasn't that great the the wide receiver caught jared johnson says kansas state finish top two in the big twelve eroneous who they even played the mighty nickels nickels stay class. I got a lot of kansas state fans mentioned because because mississippi state plays them a couple of weeks. Oh yeah telling me destroyed guy was trolling. No i've kansas state fans saying that because they beat nicol state did he forget that. There's a you and there's texas and there's i'll stay say oh my god. I'm just i just showed rhode casey in brandon. A photo of of hugh freeze getting wheeled in a wheelchair by a police officer. Thank god the police officers police escorts so you know it's a big deal. At least he's add the word police escort because there's so many rabid liberty fans around that wanted to believe y'all just stumped all over my escort joke there and i'm not you know i stepped over that joke. That is on me. I need better field. It was a good escort joke. You even had to go to escort joke and he just step all over. I ruined it. Hand up are you. I n t chris chris. Bury oldham gets fired. He has to in seventeen against power five teams with a winning record. I don't think he gets fired. He's going to disappoint. I'll tell you that doesn't look good yeah. I think he's going to get fired because it's like who's missouri going and go out and get but no that's another columbia. Berry odem has made a career off beating knocker teams. The same thing with trulock drew lock turned out to to be an n._f._l. Drafted quarterback because he was good against g. five teams. That's why i think you'll be a massive bust in the n._f._l. Gregory orchestras l._s._u. Texas by at least seventeen seventeen or more. I'm not ready to say that but i mean both l._s._u. And texas looked good this weekend. We can say that. I played really bad football team. I don't think anybody's win that game. By seventeen point matt justin fields will win the heisman trophy l. o. l. andy penn state will beat michigan and ohio uh-huh state because penn state fans. You beat idaho what the other like a few weeks ago penn state fans were like how maybe we can go ninety three this year. It's kind of a rebuilding in michigan now. Now it's all we beat idaho nine seven. We have the greatest the greatest football team to ever walk doc now. Don't get me wrong. Michigan didn't just like jump off the page early against middle tennessee so i'm not here's a thing is possible. It's possible it's not laughable that that's a take but penn state calm down calm down. Adams says the ineptitude of the s._e._c. east removes the s._e._c. from the discussion for being the best conference. I can't disagree with that more i will we talked about this. Whatever the other episode is like when you look from top to bottom. You cannot put the s._e._c. as the best conference anymore. You can't yeah i disagree. I disagree. I think it's by far the best on the bottom really you're talking about. The bottom of the big ten in the bottom of the pack twelve off the bottom of the big twelve and the bottom of the s._e._c. is isn't any worse than that after this weekend. I do not think you can say that. I just think if you put the bottom teams in the s._e._c. In the other conferences they're mid tier teams and the same goes for middle tier teams kansas. Look good or you know bill and it's still elmo at the bottom. They be akron. Like what are you going to say about. Their oregon. Steak ran over by oklahoma state and you look at the s._e._c. The bottom bottom of a._c._c. georgia tech looks disgusting loss to clemson who else is at the bottom of the s._e._c. <hes> pittsburgh looked bad. I they were against virginia but i think if you put arkansas nasc- they're going to a bowl. They're not going to to a ball game in the s._e._c. and i still think the top is incredibly strong playoff contenders contenders and then potentially five and then auburn look good texas. Am let's go to l._s._u. Looks l._s._u. I mean what stops in from 'em. I think would would probably when the big ten that that's a take that is a take. I don't know i agree with that. I don't agree with that. Track ride right that take tim la few says tennessee needs to fire phillip fulmer before the alabama game. Wow man not enough sensing fans are blaming former foremost stepped in and rode to the rescue and became the athletic director and he's the one who went and found you jeremy pruitt who apparently can't coach so you need to be blaming that fat ass what you need to be doing. I'm sorry sorry to hate out cody miles from our last heartache. North carolina will be a top twenty five team by the end of the season. I don't hate that. I think they'd be a top twenty five team this time next week i do. They beat miami. They're probably going top twenty five oh for that they would. I don't know if they were top twenty five caliber team but i'm just saying after beating south carolina and miami that would be among the twenty five best accomplishments in the country to this point and you do have the name recognition recognition with mack brown and the fact that it was happened so quickly from two wins wins last year to beating two top programs. I mean obviously they're not you know major names but they're still big-time power five conference teams suck yeah a bad all right so those are what are they gonna win this year carolina toughest schedule in the country and they lost a fucking north. Carolina couldn't lose that game. We talked on thursday. How how hot would mill will must champ be if they lost north carolina and i didn't think it was going to happen. It's on fire whose seat is hotter will muschamp or willie taggart probably must champ for the reason that carolina fans did have some hope this year and it's almost gone immediately because you know you have the toughest toughest conference or toughest schedule in the country like clemson georgia alabama. You know that's coming alabama's coming what next week it's coming very very soon so when they can be done before they get how september we knew will a tiger what about chip kelly chip kelly fine. He's fine. He's fine to jeremy pruitt now. I think he is immediately really put himself on the hot seat. You say they played cincinnati tough. Yeah i mean we just have to see how it all comes back to the pac twelve schedule for chip kelly ford award for season with in the pac twelve. I think he'll be fine and then built next year. He's in a spot where it's it's. It's about how good he gets. During the season how much improvement they show. He's he's got. He's got three months. We'll must champ doesn't have that will muschamp's had five years if you're losing north carolina in year five years six y- you're not the guy and i don't know why he was ever the guy he he if you can't succeed it florida. How are you going to succeed at south carolina. I don't know why they ever hired him. They need to get out of that and they need to get out of that fast all right so so that's about it. You're out u._s._c. by the way they want a football game. Oh good for them your favorite moment of the weekend jack mack mack brown dancing. We yeah i mean i that was my i know what you're is going to be. I'm gonna come back to you. I'm gonna give you a chance. Maybe he's right. The mack brown dancing amac brown crying is probably ever should be reasonable amount of but it's i mean how how about the mike brown text yeah. The fact that he takes me back is great. That's great. What's your mom of the week. Is it going to be that jennifer. Critical piece of shit you free how funny yeah the visuals of not only him in the hospital bed but the interview inside the coaches booth where he's not even lifting his head up. He's acting as as if he is back is still broken. It is so and then the press conference with the coke bottle that he put out that sponsorship spears and he put on a stomach is fat little stomach around show and i'm not saying i like it because i think it was like a fair thing brandon. I think it's so ridiculously funny that you have to put it up there. I think we'll be talking about this for the rest of the college football season as one of the top moments. The moment of the weekend for me was the second that auburn player caught that touchdown pass to win. The game was the best s. game the best moment the most exciting game it was the only right match up we hadn't and it was the moment were college. Football was back to me like i am sitting in my on. Oh my couch saturday night no other tears in the world just this game this moment auburn winning that game i don't i don't like auburn. They don't like me but it was a magical moment the magical win for that program who knows what they can do this year they could prove me wrong all year but that moment was just college football period great game too great game and then knowing that we wake up today because we are recording this on sunday. We've got another game tonight that we will react to depending on what happens. We've got another game tomorrow night. <hes> on monday new orleans tomorrow night beautiful beautiful and then we hit the road this weekend. I mean what what are we not happy about. At this point here. We come clemson. My name is brian walker. That's casey smith. I am casey smith good for you and as jack and this is unnecessary roughness.

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Bonus Minisode | Video Games

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Bonus Minisode | Video Games

"This is a very special episode of the. I read comic books. Podcast we asked are amazing listeners. To make donations supported the protests calling for racial justice and a huge thanks to shell gula poly for donating in making this episode happen. I am joined for this special episode by nick white. Hey and we are talking about video games in specific Visual charlotte asked us to talk about dark souls in bloodborne and metal gear solid stuff in kingdom hearts. So nick and i decided. Let's spend this very small minnesota and try to talk about all three as well as some other things that we like about video games in general so i sat down as someone who doesn't play dark souls or metal gear or kingdom hearts and said there's definitely comic book tie ins for this so i decided to read dark souls value one from titan comics and kingdom hearts final remix volume one which is from yen press. I believe Just to get my feet wet. And i mean i'm i'm fully aware of what dark souls is in bloodborne and metal gear and all that stuff like i'm a person that lives on the internet and plays video games occasionally. So i've seen all this stuff. But nick you have a little bit more experience with all three of these games right. Yeah yeah i. I've definitely determined bloodborne in dark souls. There's a good amount of firsthand experience there by experienced failure and And then in terms of metal gear in kingdom hearts while neither has been something. That's been near and dear to my heart. I definitely know super fans Kingdom hearts One of my best friends from high school was absolutely hooked on the series metal gear. Solid old boss might be the number one hit okajima slash metal gear solid fan. The point that he's had his fan are re tweeted. By kojima. And i think he considers that his crowning achievement. Tom now people would say well maybe if he has a kid or you know or you know grandkids than maybe he'll change that but no honestly. I think that this that will forever be like his most proud moment And i don't blame him for that. So yeah i mean hideo kojima self. That's that's quite something. But i mean i guess. Let's let's kinda like step into one of these games. Let's talk about dark souls bloodborne If only because i read the comic and i didn't. I knew that there was lower in this game. But the lord. The comic book establishes is something insane so nick. I think you also took a look at some of this. Does this lineup with any of the game that you saw. I guess maybe let's talk a little bit more about the game and not so much the comic Sure i mean here's the bottom line right. If you came away from this comic feeling that you would simultaneously absorbed a lot of lore and yet also possibly nothing. Yeah then that's true to the game. So i wanna really a really wanna commend. George man the writer because he really had a good command or no command or perfect command of the dark souls universe field which is like wow i feel like a lot is being thrown at me but also if i were to go back to the writers and ask them what this means i might get a resounding shrug so the game. The game is just as bland on the lower or it makes little to no sense. I mean the the goal of dark souls for anyone who hasn't played it as you. You wake up you design a character and then you have to just get out. Is that the idea or am. I getting it totally wrong. And of course it's increasingly harder. Incredibly complex in precise like i i look at that game and it makes me wanna cry at how hard it appears to be. I tried to play like jet. I fallen order. Which is supposed to be a quote souls born type of game at a hard setting and i gave up immediately and went straight to baby story mode because i just couldn't get the precision down so that that's the kind of gamer that i am right. Well you had wake up right. I mean you wake up. Then you grab a brush in you put on a little makeup Scars to fade away the shakeup System of a down chop suey if those lyrics are wrong That's music match getting it wrong. That's not me. i'm not a system down fan. Don't hold me to this But you said wake up. And i just went there So dark souls. Yeah you're right you basically you wake up and you basically need to escape I think it's the first game although there are other games certainly i think do this as well. Where there's like a huge boss That's in the immediate area and you can choose whether or not you want to fight the boss because dark souls and a lot of ways is about learning what fights to pick what fights to avoid. It's very strategic if you're someone who is prone to overthinking Like me And you just want to punish yourself constantly if you haven't played dark souls it's it's perfect like any encounter that is to want one you versus to enemies any encounter. That's two on one. No matter how weak those two enemies are they probably still have a pretty good shot at killing. So there's always a lot of tactics about Can i draw one enemy away from the group. So i can at least make it some sort of a one on one encounter much like revenge of the system There's an emphasis on having the high ground. That's a big deal. Sure i mean you laugh but you know it's it's true and then of course spot right and of course. One of the big concepts about these games is that when you die you drop all of your stuff and the game basically starts up again in your given one shot one opportunity. We're just gonna quote music all over the place now and you have one shot to get your stuff back in if you die while trying to get your stuff back you lose your stuff completely so i really like the series because it does demand a certain level of focus and maybe this is me getting back in my rocking chair on the porch. And it's nick white. Get off my lawn kids except now it's the gaming version but inasmuch as i don't like people who put on like the office for the fifteenth time into sort of us drone on in the background while they do other things and i'm like what is even the purpose here. I also like this video game because it's not something that can allow for divided. Attention of the game does not even have a pause function. it's a game that from my limited experience and just you know watching people play it online and just everything i've heard about it you know. It's a severely punishing game and it requires you to absolutely pay attention and understand all the mechanics and be able to read situations where you can eventually predict how enemies going to attack you. So that you can get in europe blows I mean i've watched people play like the opening sequence. I think of the original dark souls and like there's the big big boss and their goal was to defeat the big boss rather than getting killed you know initially because i think that that fight at the beginning is to teach you if you do fight this big thing. You're going to die but it doesn't punish you in the same way that it does the rest of the game just to prove that. Like there's a whole death and reincarnation system which i if i'm pushing my glasses on my nose here to be the actually guy reading the comic book how come the night. She never lost her sword. You know like did you have to go get the sword. She said she died. I mean come on. Well she has. She had one shot right and she didn't die again so no i think i i think what i really what i really really like as well about these games in again i say i like these things if people out there don't enjoy these things i'm not saying i'm not saying these games are for all people. They're not trying to be all things to all people. And i want to be absolutely clear about that but what i really like is that as sort of an action. Rpg i feel like there are a lot of action. Rpg's these days that are basically grind fasts right and if you want to continue to not equip your best weapon and just roll into battle and just pound on you know you know a bunch of guys with your fists and then die and just keep leveling up and just grinding it out by basically just punching a brick wall over and over again there are games that will let you get away with that right. dark souls will not let you get away with that like what is it. Einstein said what insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different resolved. Something like that like that statement is absolutely true of dark. Souls demands your focus and when things aren't working it demands that you come up with a new strategy and i really liked that people. Wanna sit down wind down at the end of the day me. I just want to dial things up to eleven and find a way to become even more stressed so perfect. But not all things to all people for the comic. I liked that. It was a hyper focused narrative. Mum it was a very character focused narrative and i liked that The characters did not seem quite as as they are in dark souls in dark solar all of the npc's sound like they've recorded their lions through a tin can. That's filtered through another tin can end all of them sound all of them. Sort of have like the I don't know what the d. and d. alignment would be for unconvincingly trying to be your best friend but will perform dark ceremonies with your corpse after murdering you. But that's basically every npc in dark souls is. They're trying real hard to be your number one. The the number one person on your speed dial but it's not coming across like you're not sold on it for one second so it's very well i mean i guess i appreciate that. The comic wasn't that terrifying. I mean even though you know. In the end there was some betrayals between characters but Yeah i guess there's dragons in the game right there like dragons are a part of dark souls in some capacity. I mean i know. There's all sorts of monstrosities that exists in that world. But that's exactly right pretty much. Anything horrifying in fantasy exists in those games so yeah i also really liked how the comic actually had. Oh gosh was that this combat comic or was that the bloodborne comic one of them actually had an inventory page. That was definitely the blood board one because they'll was very straightforward The dark souls. One but i you read the the bloodborne i i guess. If you guys get a chance. I know that titan titan comics have been putting out like every license book that isn't being put out by boomer darkhorse and thought overall like the dark souls book was good but i don't focus too much here because i do also want to talk about metal gear briefly and kingdom hearts. So what were your overall thoughts for for. The bloodborne books in sweden gets talked about that at all. Well i won't say too much on the topic. But i will say this honestly i personally like bloodborne more. The dark souls sorry Although that's you know we won't go down that rabbit hole. Generally speaking if you are nude all of the games bloodborne is more offensively. Minded dork is more defensively minded. It really boils down The bloodborne comic. Though honestly i was really really really impressed with that. And that's coming from someone who is not an alice as a alice. I think it's right. Yeah yeah. I'm not a huge fan. I think sometimes the books are deliberately really really really confusing. And i don't know if this is a credit to either caught or his editor. Or both. But i found this story to be very focused. Very character oriented. Yes it seems like it's trying to copy lone wolf and cub a little bit. But i think that's fine I think the peter kowalski's Artwork is just totally underrated. What a perfect get for this book. Totally nails all of the art. All of the costumes. All of the characters all of the weapons perfectly and the backdrops are just if you wanna look decaying castles forever. Never like boy. Do i have a book for you. And i was like these look so good and then of course. In the back there's a behind the scene section and we We get to see some of these like classical paintings. that caught was giving kowalski as inspiration. and it makes a lot of sense like there was any get. I'm not. I'm not knocking tracing. I'm not knocking model photographs or things like that for drawing. I think whatever allows you to get whatever you need out of something perfect. Just go do it. but cots inspiration was was perfect in kowalski's nailing. An execution of those concepts was perfect. I think i might actually read the second volume of this book in. If you're a bloodborne fan. I think you'll like this. There's so much of a debate in the game over like what's real what's illusion. What's a dream. And that's like really in cots wheelhouse of like debating reality and and you know what is quote unquote real to the point that there's even like a you died. Screen pulled straight out of the game in the book. So i have nothing but great. Praise for that book honestly. Gotcha you're selling me. Because i didn't even realize it was Kowalski on our. And i loved that guys work since i. I saw it in in the book. Sex that he did with. Joe casey awhile back and he he also did that. An incredible book with matt kent. I think it was anyways. We wouldn't have to get into that but yeah that's that sounds like a great combo. I don't even know anything about bloodborne. Might check this book house. But let's before we dive even further into that. Let's talk about metal gear metal gear solid of i will say my only experience with the metal gear solid franchises that i had a friend in middle school. Who would constantly invite me over to play video games. And then he would play. Metal gear solid the playstation. I watch you would. It's like one dollars but there's no multiplayer aspect of that gave and there's not even like a couch coop like friendly of the game. Someone watching someone else occasionally going you died. We would watch and then he would talk about like snake. He's got a thing with this girl that keeps calling him. And i was like what's happening. Why you are their faces. Both on the screen at the saints. What is the number dialed between them. Is the frequency and the kodak frequency. Yeah yeah we would talk about that. I mean but like i understand what metal gears. I don't think it was until college. That understood that metal gear was the giant robot and the fact that there were even giant robots involved like and i know that has a clone and like i played the original s game which i didn't like very much like my experience with metal gear is basically just internet interaction And i i think. I know less about metal gear than i do about dark souls and blood borne. So what's your experience with the neck. Just briefly i guess yeah. I mean briefly. As i said earlier i think i know the i think well i i know the person but i think mild boss is still the number one metal gear superfan out there like i think literally he would like bank his vacation time and when the metal gear games would come out like we wouldn't see him for like a week right More that's not an exaggeration and i mean. I've played what is generally considered blasphemy to metal gear fans. Which is that i played. They remastered the first metal gear for the gamecube in. It's called twin. Snakes and most metal gear fans consider playing that you know as i said as as blasphemy compared to everything else. So that's the only one. I fully finished I've played some of the remastered one's a little bit but never finished those When they went to three sixty I think matt fraction did a metal gear solid comic. I one point. oh so. that's something people might wanna look up or at least he was one of the people contributing. So that's the thing Yeah than that i know. Metal gear involves People going natto machines nanna machines. Nanna machines get brought up a lot. Yeah i know that the phrase war were never changes or it's like war always changes that might be fallout. It's either more is always changing her. Never change a one of those fall out. In one of those is metal gear. War is never not changing. That's the word. That's probably it. But i know that that gets set a lot. And you're right. There's like there's liquid snake. They're solid snake. They're solid snake octagon octagon out of con- out of john polly hebron he's joe and and you're right he has. He has a radio called the kodak where he calls up his boss or His his like handler and then hits on her Her name is mailing and she also shares trivia with him like a while he's in the middle of a fight. That's good And he loves any love cigarettes in boxes and he hides in cardboard boxes. Any sometimes appears in smash brothers games. Yeah and go mantis. One time made you play the game by plugging the controller into the second person's controller spot. Don't ruin that for all right. Is like these year old spoilers. I don't want. I don't want to harp on this game because i know that it is a very well love series and showing lake the heard great things about unfortunately neither of us have played it. No i mean yeah please a knock lake i i. I'm not saying. I think the game is funny. I think what's funny is how i've probably absorbed man two percent of what is out there by as moses and it's it's very little it's very little. I know that you wear an eye patch in you. Hide a lot and hand you tranquilize people people all the time. And if you're like a true pro you make it through the game without killing a single person apparently in you fall on land mines and there's a guy who rolls around on rollerblades. That's a boss. And he throws inmates that you. There's a lot of a lot of really bizarre stuff but of course this is today okajima that we're talking about this person that brought us you know are very lazy insane game. That came out amazon prime delivery the game. That's stranding yes. Yup so anyways i just wanted to touch on that before we got into the final com or game that we wanted to talk about here which is kingdom hearts. Melania fans. Please don't be mad please. We're gonna metal gear fans. I have great appreciation. it's for someone who's from the outside looking in. There's a lot of wild shit there. Okay exactly but to talk about this. Last game kingdom hearts. I sat down and i read kingdom hearts final remix which is a manga. That is read left to right. For some reason which features all of our favorite characters seora Donald duck goofy and then all disney characters that they visit which i thought it was really interesting because the comic the manga seems to basically follow. What my understanding of the video games was where sora and his friends get split up and his buddy betrays everybody By going to the dark side but he doesn't actually want to. He just is upset that that soar forgot about him but sort didn't forget about him. He's just like oh i'm glad he's okay Which is friend misinterprets. And then the kyri is taken as like one of the princesses or something. They're trying to steal all the princesses volume one ends with you. Get to see aladdin. You could see alice in wonderland and you get to see hercules and in the volume just ends in the middle of a giant fight. But you do me all the main villains that are involved. Haiti's jaffar and her name's medusa but it starts with an m. malefic a really interesting book. I didn't hate it at actually thought. The pacing was really good. There's like fifty chapters in this volume because they're all like six pages each. It's fucking insane and it made the kingdom hearts lower somehow. Make sense to me because going into that book. I had no idea how any of it worked. I knew that there were these heartless things and yeah so nick. What what's your experience with kingdom hearts because mine is just peripheral when the new kingdom hearts game came out. Everyone was talking about it. And i tried to like read some time line stuff and i was like. None of this makes sense brian. David gilbert did a video about a lot of my chair i used. I mean from what you've said. I think what is most shocking. Is i think you at least half as good of an understanding of kingdom hearts probably as most actual people who've played the games you might even have a better understanding honestly it's so convoluted and i. I almost feel like kingdom. Hearts is one of those things where it just sort of aura. Bros in a way like it's sort of just like defeating itself lake at some point like hey this doesn't make sense in kingdom hearts was like we're just gonna roll with this completely like we're just going to like whether we wanted it to be this way or not like this is just coming all the way back around and just not making any sense anymore. So and at some point for some reason other final fantasy character show up like a young version of cloud. Strife shows up in the middle of a fight. And i was like what has to do with gosh so for some. The kingdom hearts games the lead designer or art designer for the games was the same person who was the lead or designer on certain final fantasy games because that was the case they either wanted to or felt entitled to rope in own personal creations from final. Fantasy games Why sometimes some of the kingdom hearts games have this side to them and some of them don't because it's based on who was in charge of the either the lead designer or the art designer. So that's that's why that's going on. I know that much As i said like I knew a couple of people in high school that were absolutely obsessed with like the first two and then You know my friend. Jordan absolutely obsessed with kingdom hearts three came out. I think he just played it end to end Their they're wild games. Like i still remember when the first one came out and it wasn't something established right in so we've got this game with very final fantasy looking protagonists. And then somehow that's been smashed up with disney and like very bizarre god king named mickey and he's like these all powerful king that can't save the world and so donald and goofy who are like his dukes or something the ones a wizard ones. Donald is court wizard in right guy. Don't remember what goofy position is. He's just a night or something. I don't know this manga really really helps set straight so honestly if you get a chance to comics. Limited kingdom hearts final remix one. I i understand everything about kingdom hearts. Now i don't think i no. That's that's good because honestly it sounds like people who have played the games and come away confused which none of them will admit it but some of them have Would be wise to check out this book. Because like i remember i've read this somewhere like the designer at one point was like like honest with you i don't i haven't really mapped out. Like the broad arcs of this series. He said at the beginning. I wasn't really like on a on a large scale. He wasn't hick meaning it. Basically and That has resulted in basically the kingdom hearts series continuing to put games that take place in between other games constantly like this game is like conning ret cons of ret cons neons. It's it's on a scale where after it happened a couple times. They said we just have total licensed to do this forever right. so yeah it. Spans like devices. Like their gameboy games and like mobile phone games but like also say mobile phone games. I mean like razor phone games that would establish things. And you know all the while you're still playing with goofy and mickey And i it's a bizarre. Excuse me goofy and donald. It's it's such a funny thing that this game series continues to exist in. The people are so dedicated to the lower because it is. It is more complicated than comic book. Lauren that is saying something entertaining. And i'm glad that people get a lot of enjoyment out of this. I know that hearts three came out people all over the world. Were freaking out And it was met with mixed reviews but it looks pretty. it looks fun So yeah i guess. I just wanted to touch on this because the manga was is wild. It's totally worth a read. Because like i said it's very fast and the video games you know. They look like fun if you're into action. Rpg's i think it totally works and it's always been something that was interesting to me but i never actually had a system to play those games on Up until very recently. I probably could have could play kingdom hearts three but yeah i just i never. I never actually sat down to play them even though the idea was kind of fun. Yeah i mean there's really something there for everyone if you just like pretty games. They're great if you like final fantasy games. Perfect if you like action. Rpg's there's something there if you're into disney. there's something there it's a wide catchall and a lot of people. I think are beginning to wonder if now the door is even open for marvel for the next one which would be fucking insane. I yeah well. I i would love to speculate more on that but we do have to wrap up here in before redo nick. I guess we were talking about this before we started recording. What's one game that you would recommend to somebody and maybe not on this list of that. We talked about today. But what's a game that if you had to sit down and recommend to people what's that you're thinking of so if there was one that i really really really had to. I'll just briefly give you to just to do this. So my my undersung Secrets special really. Great game that i can't recommend enough to a lotta people is a darkness. it was for game cube. It didn't really sell a lot of copies because it was early on in the game cubes cycle where the council was very much seen as a consul for children. In so n m m rated games on the console did not get a lot of traction but if you wanna play this crazy story which spans thousands and thousands of years. It's very like lovecraft in story of different people from different backgrounds from different nations across generations and generations of time each coming into contact with this cosmic evil It's so and yet nobody's heard of it if you're thinking how can i play this. I don't think it ever got ported to anything else. So you're gonna have to find you're going to have to find a you know this game for gamecube or find other means of playing it on the internet which i will neither advocate for nor elaborate upon So that's that Other than that. I would say I i love Alien isolation so freaking much if you haven't played alien isolation if you're up for a scary game Much like dark souls. this is another game. Where sort of everything from like timing character positioning knowing where you are in your like. It's very much like an overthinking centric game of you playing cat and mouse with a singular uncontrollable alien running around a space station It's visually the art. Design is perfect. it's terrifying. It's a great science fiction story and it's more loyal to the aliens verse than many of the movies have been but you've got to be up for being scared because it's going to happen. Gotcha well i definitely surprised that you didn't say into the breach poured so many hours into that too. Yeah into the breaches a fantastic turn based rpg like rogue lite in some ways. I don't know how else describe. It just goes if it meets chace basically. Yeah it's like a tactical rpg that has rogue light elements. Which i know is like the buzz word a couple of years ago. But it's true. Yeah i and speaking of that on my recommendations would be if you're someone that likes haiti's like the game haiti's um wanna play like an action rogue light kind of like that. That's an isometric game I would recommend wizard of legend out of an old bit kinda game. But it's you know you're that you choose elements of of aca power that you want and you pick up new things and power ups as you go through. The goal is to defeat all of the rulers of the four elements and become the wizard of legend. It's really really fun game That's very fast paced I would say more. So than a game. Like haiti's you're really dashing around the entire game and i i loved those types of things And another game. In the exact same vein would be dead cells. I love that game to death. I think i put like forty or fifty hours into it. Just because it's addicting just continuously play over and over and over It turns out. I'm a. i'm a big person who likes side scrolling games like that so like super mario thirty five was basically the best thing that happened to me for a couple of weeks just because i love that kind of competitive nature that that game brings out in the fast pace of it So that if i had to recommend a one game i would definitely say wizard of legends. So much fun And i it's it's a great indie game to support Came out of kickstarter. And it's it's just taken off. It's such a great game but yeah so again thank you to chauffeur for supporting the protests out there. I mean honestly It it's december nine recording this and your donation still help. You can still donate night. We highly encouraged do that So and i hope you enjoyed us. You know talking about video games this is. This is a ton of fun for nick at to do so remember. You can follow us on twitter. You can follow nick at star plans. You can follow me at mike wrapping. 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New Music Friday: July 17

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New Music Friday: July 17

"What do you do when you have too many pickles in Alaska and not Enough Pancake Syrup, in New Jersey. On the next episode of Planet Money Summer School we send supply and demand to the rescue. It's economic education. You always wanted, but never got around to every Wednesday. Listen now to planet money from NPR. Happy Friday everyone from NPR music, and all songs considered. I'm Robin Hilton I'm here with an powers hi. Robyn? Stephen Thompson Hello Robin and Sarah Muhammad High Ravin it's new music Friday which means we're looking at the best albums out today on July seventeenth. We've got new ones from Elliot Golden Leeann Lavas, Jarvis Cocker, and a whole bunch more, but we start with one of the most anticipated releases of the year from the chicks. It's called gas slider. City! K Joe's. Against, big. Spoons girlfriends. Just called me. It's so insane. Busted. Business in. Bath. How do you sleep? This is the chicks the album is called gaslight or the song we're listening to is called sleep at night. And of course until recently they were known as the dixie chicks. They dropped dixie from their name in this great reckoning around race that's been unfolding the spring and summer in the US, but before that. And the big story was just that they're back. This is their first album. In fourteen years. Robin I can't think of a more anticipated album this year, then guess from the chicks who ruled country in the early two thousands, and then kind of left the scene for a while. This album continues the path. They were already on I. Know People are talking about it as? Oh, it's not a country album. They've really radically changed their sound. They worked with producer Jack Antonoff. Who of course works with everybody from Taylor Swift's to Lord? To you? Name it of a pop superstar, especially a woman pop superstar, but I hear a lot of connections to what they've done in the past guests later is an album that tells a particular story. The story of the break-up of Natalie Maynes is marriage Natalie maynes of course, the lead singer for the chicks. But. It also tells a universal story in the quality of Lonesome Nece, sadness and resilience that communicates yeah I. Wrote Down Righteous Defiance I was really taken there several songs on this record that are about really the specifics. The nuts and bolts of the factors that led to the break-up of Natalie maynes his marriage, particularly around infidelity, thematically kind of feels like beyond as lemonade if it were all recriminations. Matz. And not so much with the with forgiveness and reunions, and it's great to have this back. Yes, these songs I think are really sharp and really memorable, but I also think that for some people. This is GonNa be the exact right record at the exact right time, and it's going to be important I. Think to a lot of people who love this this group. I love this record. The chicks their new when is called gas slider, and we're starting to catch up with a whole bunch of releases that were supposed to come out earlier this year, but we're postponed. This one was one of them in fact, a lot of the ones on this week show. Due out earlier this year. Let's go next to leanna. She has a new self titled Record. Yeah that's a good and. You didn't pay. So, I guess he'll. says. Oh it can't spend. Nobody used to be these things. Not. Cry And pray. Pray Nine. This is Leeann Lavas the singer Lianne Lahavi. Her new one is a self titled Record in the Song, were listening to his called seven times. she's a British singer Songwriter, we've been following for awhile header in for a tiny desk almost five years ago, which is. Also how long it's been since her last record and Sarah she she says this one was pretty transformative album for her. Yeah, Robin, it took the and five years to make this record, although she wasn't recording it the whole time of course there. She says that there was a lot of living and a lot of dealing with change and loss and I think she just grew up and matured a lot during the last five years. She's thirty years old now. She's about to turn thirty one in August but it's really nice to hear how she's matured as a artist. You can really hear a lot of. Of Her songs, Leeann is really come into her own and defined herself so beautifully you know at some moments it recalls salon. It has sort of ambient, almost guard feel, and then at other moments when she breaks through especially when she's really pushing her vocal range I get an almost like John, legend Vibe, she can go from that really totally rich exploratory style to a more pop style in a heartbeat and I love that. I love her affinity for interesting covers. Her first album had a cover of a song called illusive by Scott Matthews that that I really love. This one has a cover of weird. Weird fishes by radiohead to me. She's just got an interesting musical mind and I still and still I think just so much star power I. Think those first two albums. They were maybe overproduced a little bit, and she was maybe trying hard to to come up with her signature sound, but I think she really nailed it here. The influences of the R&B There's a lot of jazz going on in her music, a lot of harmonies. There's a lot of thick heavy bass and really dirty rhythms. Even in that song that we just heard in seven times. There's this noisy aspect of the rhythm track. That is really. Really grounding and it's sort of exudes like a confidence in her production style like she's not afraid to take chances. She's not afraid to be vulnerable. I think she finally feels comfortable with all the things she's gone through and her relationships in her life, the loss of a family members, and she's just happy to have grown up, and she even writes in her album notes that the album actually allowed her to find some happiness and some beauty and joy in in what she was going through Leeann. lavas says the singer. Her new album is self titled Thanks so much Sarah Thanks Robin. Thanks for having me. All Right? Another album were loving this week out today. On July, seventeenth comes from blue and exile, the duo, Blu and exile. It's called miles from an interlude called life. You'll get. Food. Ask. Spectacular rotted is freaking world, the most common denominator between boy and girl highest standards, except within the stylish redistributed, said a massive for your satisfaction. We only come in peace to preach about the knicks common. The first black president would have the next. This is. You went. The. Struggle in Washington and seeing this is GONNA be. Shit two thousand plus lease underground above the break, and you could see him like they hand out to God and we can save them like any pace in about. This. Is that big hurt? Put Her on the truth. They never taught a wish to lead. The world is A. Life Liberty Happiness to be detached from me. This is a message from the people. Is for. With! This is blue and exile. The album is called miles from an interlude called life. This song is true and living and John Morrison host of Experts Culture Cypher Radio in the podcast. Serious rap shit back for this one. Hey, John Hey. What's Robin? Blue is an LA, rapper and exile, a producer also from Los Angeles. They've been working together for more than a decade, but this is their first project in in eight years, and they're making up for all that time with a double album. Yeah, this is interesting. lenexa exile, their debut album below the heavens. It's widely considered. Considered like a modern classic and blue is incredible, MC might be one of the most gifted emcees on the planet right now he is a real range and detail to his writing, and this record is strong like for for to folks who haven't released any new music in nearly a decade. This is a super strong project. Yeah, this record is just such a grand statement to you know it's. It's just so interesting to me. Sometimes when artists take a long time off between projects, and then it's like you come back, and you release. All the music would have made. In the interim I mean this is a this is a ninety five minute in a very sonically and thematically ambitious record sprawls all over the place. It's so rich with samples that feels old school and timeless at the same time kind of this like vintage west coast hip hop feel yeah, a lot of this music is centered around these intricate intricately chopped up. Jazz samples little vocal snippets, exiles really good for that taking vocal samples and kind of making them sing together, you know yeah. Music is so bright is energetic is optimistic, sounding and lyrically blue tends to make these like big sweeping statements and and observations about life and death, and all the big things. But. It's cool because he can also narrow it down as a writer and focused, is a line a real simple line, but it's really evocative on the song when the gods meet. He says there's gray in the hair on my GRANDPA's ears I would cut his hair. He was shaved his beard. And this record is full of little moments like that where he takes a break from the macro stuff, lyft and all of that and just kind of like narrows in on these little intimate emotional moments, these two are obviously at the height of their respective gains, and and it's cool to see both of them. You know pull it together with this big broad record. Blu and exile is the duo their new, and it's called miles from an interlude called life. Thanks so much John. Thank you Robin? Let's do one more album before we take a break. This comes from Jarve is. This is a project of Jarvis copper. It's called beyond the Pale. Usual. that. You will feel so. No easy answer. That you. Always. Fried Food for famous. Noise I watch. You. Do! Seasons. Don't show. Host. Watch. This is jarve is the album is called beyond the Pale of the song we're listening to is sometimes I'm farrow. And as I mentioned, this is a abandoned Jarvis Cocker formed a few years ago in twenty, seventeen, mostly been alive band up until now, and this is their debut full length record finally. Of course Jarvis Cocker. WHO IS JARVIS COCKER? He is part of that British pop that you know emerged in that moment when oasis was huge win, swayed was defining Glam Rock, and there's pulp Jarvis. Cocker spanned the splitting the difference between intellectual inquiry, and just like wild rave tastic rock, and roll and Jarvis is one of the most incisive lear that we have in rock, and he's also one of the most the freest performers you know I mean. You can hear it in his vocals on this record. He's still wild singer of brilliant words, and I love that combination. You have boy. He is no one sounds like him. You know that this is Jarvis Cocker through through. He's always been what I would call just a wonderful Weirdo and. You know I I love all of his observations on on this record on everything from street performers to Paleolithic, Cave, art and clothing store. Wasn't he inspired by some book about the dawn of civilization? Yeah, it's all it's all in here. Yes. Jarve is Jarvis is is the project from Jarvis Cocker? The album is called beyond the Pale. We still have a handful of records that we WANNA. Play for this week. Show along with our lightning round of other notable releases, but first we need to take a short break. This message comes from NPR sponsor. Better help better. Health offers licensed professional counselors who specialize in issues such as `isolation, depression, stress, anxiety, and more connect with your professional counselor in a safe and private online environment. When you need professional help, get help at your own time and your own pace schedule, secure video or phone sessions plus chat and text with your therapist. visit better help, dot com slash songs to learn more and get ten percent off your first month. It's music Friday from NPR and all songs considered I'm Robin. Hilton I'm here with an powers Stephen Thompson and we're looking at the best albums out on July seventeenth. We start the second half of the show off with the band, Proto Martyr and their latest. It's called ultimate success today. Did Go on Aldo. The Jagger, applaud. The. No Own. All Out Saadi Gye Free. Throw them out. This is proto martyr. The Band Proto Martyr. Their record is called ultimate success. Today in the song is processed by the boys. This is a deeply philosophical existential rock band from Detroit. We've been following since their debut in two thousand twelve. This is their fifth full length record and I don't think they needed the level of. Boy, did A. In beast mode on this one you know when we talk about Proto martyr, so many people with this band talk about Joe Casey, who is the singer and I'm using quotes around the word singer, because he mostly murmurs and mumbles about like greed and societal collapse while looking like your math teacher. And and surrounded by band members who are roughly a decade younger than he is listening to this record. It's such a reminder that around him. Is this fantastic band that is bringing out the foreboding and the drama of each instrument that song that you played process by the boys? You can hear like you just feel the individual drum hits you know by the Drummer, Alex Leonard you see those epic guitars by Greg. That are like stars. Unto themselves this really for me. Like leveling up I think is right. I think you're getting everything that we've liked about Joe Casey, and his presence and point of view and profound pessimism, if I can alliterate as much as humanly possible, but you're also just hearing this great band like fully come into its own Joe Casey wrote this record going into his forties, feeling not too well, and the songs really express a kind of fear of your own bodily decay, and yet I'm not bummed out by it. Will yes, even talks about Joe Casey's pessimism in I mean that's certainly in just about everything he does. But I always see little glimmers of light here and there that convinced me over the years that he's not hopeless. You know the he gets it. He understands that life is complicated and that there's a lot of bad in the world, but that doesn't preclude one from enjoying the good things absolutely and I think he finds freedom in the band. It's like what you were talking about Stephen. The Catharsis they generate lifts him up and it lifts all of us. Totally blown away by this one proto martyr. The record is ultimate success today. Let's go next to the singer Ellie Goulding. She's back with the new and called brightest blue. Why you talk on the phone, a love, suit and tie, and no way that you smokes stumbled nutrients for no, you told. Me To? Know. Do. and You keep him around keeping. fantasize diet. Talk! thinking. Jackson. Don. Do better baby beyond his. I find some David. Deep. This is the singer Ellie. Golden and has called Brightest Lou and this song. How deep is too deep Ellie Goulding. She's a major pop singer I mean bigger in her home. In the UK than she is here in the states, but I think this record is totally live i. mean it's it's. It's big and bold and slick that it's also packed with so many strange sounds and poly-rhythms and little bits of ear candy that kind of keep. You. You, wondering what's going on I I was really knocked out by this one. That's a great description of what Ellie Goulding dozen her music robin and has done since she burst into fame with her hit lights, which was i. don't know what was at eight ten years ago or something now you know she is has an amazing sense of melody, and she has that voice this kind of almost childlike or elvis quality that mingles perfectly with electronics. She also has great tasting collaborators whether it still blow or sway Lee or the late juice. World is on the track here. Also one of my very favorite new artists, serpent with feet, makes an appearance, so she's got great taste, great sense of melody and writes a perfect pop song. This is a little bit of growing up record. This is her first album in five years. It follows this long stretch. Stretch where she was dealing with a lot of anxiety, imposter syndrome, and it's a nice continuation of this very successful sound that she's developed, but she's also evolving along the way, both personally and musically. I agree this is a terrific record. Ellie Goulding is the singer her new and is called brightest blue. Let's go next. Zara Macfarlane. She's got a new one out. Today called songs of an unknown tongue. Here's I. Don't. Take. US down. You Got God. He's GonNa be good. This is the singer Zara McFarlane, her new and his songs of an unknown tongue. The song listening to from that record is called state of mind and back for this one is Radio Milwaukee's Tariq Moody Hatred. As going Robin. I have heard Zara. McFarlane called the UK's foremost jazz vocalist, but after hearing this record I. Don't know calling her jazz. Singer doesn't really come close to. All the genre hopping and other often guard things. She's doing on this record. It's kind of departure for her. Like I record was really kind of a traditional jazz mixed with a little bit of African and Caribbean Vibes, so it's very traditionally instrumentation. Her vocals really stood out more, and this album is completely completely a different kind of departure for her sonically and lyrically, because it's almost like a concept record. Yeah, I read that she was inspired at least in part by the Jamaican legend called the white witch of Rose Hall which is. About a ghost or a story about a ghost that supposedly haunts plantation near Montego Bay. Well I also heard Robin entering that she was telling a very current story, which is the story of how for herself as a black British woman, the legacies of colonialism and racial violence, diaspora both in the. Tragic sense and also, though in the positive beautiful sense of people building culture despite constant displacement. Yeah, it's kind of a kind of put it like I recently hosted the NPR Listening Party for the salt record another UK kind of mysterious ban and their album titled Black is is kind of overview of the black diaspora looking a book right as a preface then Zara comes in a chapter. Really taken that day. Aspirin given a personal story taking it deeper were salt left off. She has assigned this record called native nomad, and I just love that seemingly contradictory, actually paradoxical phrase. You know that she is both wandering that her people are wandering than also though always native, all drawn back to the. The home base you know the origin I really hear that in this music and the Afro futurist quality of this music. Yes, I was going to actually mentioned that it. Definitely it conjures up I'm a big proponent, big fan of the concept of Africa futures them in literature, and recently in movies and Sun Raw, and in the musical range, meant the lyricism of this album. Really I can see this being part of like Black Panther. Two's soundtrack comes out and the thing I love is the percussions throughout the like? Really it hits you hard. You know where it's coming from. I feel like they wanted to make those percussion seeing because that is part of the culture rate whether Jamaica that the. Is The foundation. Did I asked for like roots of freedom like you definitely hear the the Jamaican dub in that you know when you say when people like Oh Jamaicans while I might be here reggae. This is before reggae right saw and I think most people think. Jamaica reggae is like a old old thing and compared to the whole history diaster. It's pretty new genre if you think about it, and this goes way beyond that Zara McFarlane is the singer her new and it's called songs of an unknown tongue. Thanks so much Tariq. Thank you. We have one more at that we WANNA play for this week's new music. Friday, but it's a another packed week with a whole bunch of notable new releases that we should mention I'll start with bing and ruth their new and is called species. This is a very calming ambient record from a Brooklyn based band fronted by pianist David Moore being in Ruth. The record is called species. There's a new from the band dead, and it's Spelled D. E. H., d.. The albums called flower of devotion. This is a trio from Chicago a lot of different sounds coming together on on this record, but just very artful rock album flower of devotion from Dead Laura. She has been called. Son, piano, this is A. Veteran musician from Philly. He's been making music for the past five decades. He's in his seventies now. It's very meditative. It's inspired a lot by eastern mysticism. He's a multi instrumentalist, but this one is also piano. Pieces Laura G. The album is called son piano. And finally Nicolas. JAAR NICO JAR has a new one called. Tell us and that's spelled. T. L., A. S. tell us he's a Chilean American electronic. This is one of his more avangard records. It's only four tracks, but an hour long. Nicolas Jaar tell us is the record if people are having their piano day with. They should also put on the new Christian Sands Record be water. Christian is totally fierce and powerful young pianist. In this. This album goes in new directions for. David Ramirez WHO's one of my favorite songwriters out of Austin has a record called? My loves a hurricane that started kind of as a love letter than the relationship broke up, but man he just goes new places, and just finds really soulful sound on this record. It's super great There's also an emerging artists S G, Goodman, who's album old time feeling produced by Jim James. James of my morning jacket brings an exciting new voice to the field and If you like traditional rooted blue, grassy kind of music checkout, lower Cortez and the dance cards. She's a great songwriter to her records caused a great record. Yeah, bitter, better well first off this week we got a new record kind of from a wonderful band. LUMINOSITY hotties that we've talked about on. On the show before this one's called free I H. This is not the one you've been waiting. For. which kind of suggests this is not a true full new luminosity hotties record. It's about twenty three minutes long, but there's some real bursts of joy and cleverness in there a new band called crickets a JD Samson of Latigo Roddy bottom. Aunt's favourite from imperial teen. Teen and faith no more and Michael O'Neill from men they make this queer minimalist groove music kind of electro rock. Their album is self titled. Band is crickets, and finally a funky pop producer from Melbourne named a Nikos Marsal records under the name Alice Ivy. She's got an album full of great guests. People like Odette and cadence weapon. Her new album is called. Don't sleep. All that music out now on July seventeenth along with the last one that we wanNA play, it comes from the band Clo-. It's called. Maybe it could. Terms. This is the band Clo- in. It's spelled k. l.. L. O. PRONOUNCED CLO-. The record is maybe we could in the song. We're listening to his called still here. This is a dual from Melbourne Khloe call and Simon Lamma their cousins. And, this is their second full length record together. It's I think it's. Like a cross between Sylvan, Esso and radiohead. You know it's Moody with the skittering beats like radiohead, but very hooky like Sylvan Esso. There's just such a great kind of bittersweet melancholy throb through these songs and a lot of emotions that feel like inbetween emotions, a lot of doubt and want an alien nation, all all wound up in these kind of thrilling, little electro pop since I like this one a lot. What really stands out for me with this music is the way Khloe calls voice mingles and melds with the sounds that she and Simon lamb create I I genuinely was transported as as corneas that sounds. When I listen to this record. All I thought is I WANNA cousin to make music where. I thought this was a great record. Maybe we could from Clo- K. L. O. Clo- is the band and that'll do it for this week's new music. Friday. Thanks so much Anna Q so much and Steven. Thank you Robin. As always if you want to hear full versions of the songs, we played along with a bunch of other new tracks out this week. You can listen on our website NPR dot org slash. All songs were also an apple music and spotify just open those apps and search for NPR's new music, Friday playlists. If you want to keep in touch and keep track of what all we're doing NPR music including updates about tiny desk concerts and other playlists sign up for our newsletter at NPR DOT Org. Slash music newsletter. 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New Mix: Khruangbin, Lucinda Williams, Protomartyr, More

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42:31 min | 1 year ago

New Mix: Khruangbin, Lucinda Williams, Protomartyr, More

"Everybody thanks for listening to also considered we'd like to better understand who's listening and how you're using a podcast so help us out by completing a short anonymous survey at NPR dot org slash podcast survey. That's one word it'll take less than ten minutes in a really helped support the show that's NPR dot org slash podcast survey. Thanks the biggest story in the world is a science story and keeping up with all the latest corona virus research. It's a lot. So we've we translate the science you need to know into short daily episodes. Listen and subscribe to shortwave from NPR from NPR music. It's all songs considered. I'm Bob Boylan so I had fun. Spend much of this weekend watching entries to the tiny desk contest and the contest is now officially closed for twenty twenty and over the course of the next few months before we announce the winner. I encourage you to watch the many tiny contest entries. It's a fun rabbit hole to go down You can start by going. Npr DOT org slash tiny desk contest and speaking of joy? I WANNA start off. Today's show with some joy and that's the name of a song from an artist. I hadn't heard before named tenancy. This is the music of Chicago based Musician Jess showman. The album by Jess showman is called. My heart is an open field. And this is joy A few Kish SPI fast fast fast fast. Fast Oh reason to this foxholes scab. Enjoy me too. So ooh ooh K. Two wouldn't joy from Tennessee. The album my heart is an open. Field is out June fifth on the austin-based labeled Keeled Scales and speaking of Texas we head to use to now and new music from Krung been the instrumental trio are taking a new turn for their third album. They're upping the vocals so along with her base. You'll hear the words and voice of Laura Lee this third album they're putting out is called Mordechai. And here's a hint of what's on it. It's a song. Call Time Prints sees you and I care into line change. Don't know Sir Compete Together. Take take turns. Then were birth. Talk brought off Talk Bridge Krong Been. That song was called time. You and I from an album named after a newfound friend. A friend who inspired Laura's writings his name is also the title of the Third Rung. Been album it's called Mordechai. The album comes out on June twenty-sixth on Oceans Proto martyr have been making music for more than a dozen years now. The band from Detroit have their fifth album coming. And it's a potent Alma. It's called ultimate success today. Singer Joe Casey sent me this. About the album's closing cut called werm in heaven. Hello this is Joe from Proto Martyr. women heaven is the last song from our new album called ultimate success today. And that's meant to be ironic title because it's the last song and the album because sounds so elegiac to mean Canada. Beautiful with the woodwinds blowing through it. It sounds like a song we haven't done before I thought was opportunity to write a sort of Swan Song or I don't know combination song or I could get nice parting advice but me being me ended up Being a song about kind of reaching the end of arduous painful thing and looking back and wondering if it was worth it at all and Only seeing the cliff in front of you and I hope you'll like it. Thanks very much. So it's Tom signify not rats woods grass grown over the phone new. All laugh slump needed as the as stub you do may have found so thaw So close to grave. Aw move have a off remember me? How funny always this stop close? LEFT BAJA NIP SIP. Our Yeah Proto martyr. The album is ultimate success today. And it's out in mid-july on domino. That song was called Werm in heaven. Thanks Joe for the voice memo. We'll take a break. Now come back in a minute with some uplifting you're listening to all songs considered from. Npr music the following. Message comes from our sponsor Jack. 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Get the help you deserve with better help. It's all songs considered. I'm Bob Boylan and now for some uplift. The Mayor of Louisville got on the phone called Teddy Abrahams The Music Director of the Louisville Orchestra in hopes of inspiring the community to fight social isolation during quarantine and so the seeds of a song were planted. Kentucky musicians including Jim James Bent so the we'll olden and rapper cory. Arthur got together virtually and made this song to benefit the community and the One Louisville Kovic Nineteen Response Fund is Song is called Lift Up Louisville Tasca hard time you go the hardest things to stay to stay home now no longer hold. I love worth close soul. Now it's not for it. Were the music again. The Towel League can live. Were we do? Oh on the side Xingang. You'll go sheltered. Adri of the good times hand stand Pantley all Jews Matt. Good Day when we come together to keeping nothing so far solely from London using the weekend long Oh What happened if I'm people no one left even though we saw band? And let's take a minute to make the moment candidate twenty five extra dot was son time a new season full of sunshine a new stop those time for no time to play this week not to say to sweet. Everybody stay wasted feet of the while. In my life free Freddie Day comes with the Musset Abrahams a we do our thanks Music of Louisville musicians including Jim James Teddy Abrahams will olden Jacoby. Arthur song is called lift up. Louisville and one of the hopes of this project inspired by Mayor Greg Fischer is that multiple cities will tap their arts communities to do more songs like these. So let's see what happens on New Music Friday this past week we played a new song from Lucinda. Williams is a track on that new album. Good souls better angels that I felt worth hearing and so now some words of encouragement from Lucinda Williams Song. When the way gets dark rural a lose yours is your little Lucille. Lose you SPA. Oh don't don't feel Rod Uganda Lose yours his. Lose your you stone. Bone a reason of Never Mind Lucinda Williams at song when the way gets dark is from her new album. Good souls better angels and powers just published a guide to Lucinda Williams best songs and you can find that on the NPR music site and now some quietude from Katie. Jane Garside you may know her from the more thrashing sounds of Daisy chainsaw or ruby throat many other projects. She's done but her new project liar. Flower is not that in fact the song I'm GonNa play. I am Sundress. She of infinite flowers is quite the opposite. It's just vocals and auto harp guarded. He he could he Indiana prudently underneath the thank. You coming to me to say stay B can so can he a pre A Thank you coming to me to say. The bad he cast live cam me free. Three the A son cold A cold some. Uh thank you having had to me. Too Bad A. B. Now can the sounds of liar flower from an album called Geiger counter. And I must say this project with her bandmate Chris. Whittingham from Ruby throat is all over the map. So give it a listen. The two have been living on a sailboat out at sea raising their young daughter living in isolation geiger counter is the album they put together. It's out May I? Now for a blast of fresh loud air from another thrilling. Do Oh this is the lovely eggs the Music Holly Ross and David Blackwell have been making music for roughly fifteen years. They too are fascinated by the idea of isolation and a project called the Mars one program which as a press release says is a global project that aims to establish a permanent human settlement on Mars and offers applicants the opportunity to never step foot on earth. Again I'll leave you with that thought and this song by the lovely eggs from their album. I am moron. Which is the second album no comment Stephen Thompson? Which is the second album. They've now done with producer. Dave Friedman the song is called long-stem. Carnations stay well everybody. I'm Bob boiling for NPR music. It's all songs considered off short instead sure long along

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Early Takes On The 2020 Season And Wondering If Classic Jersey's Are Actually Bad

Comeback Szn

1:01:27 hr | 11 months ago

Early Takes On The 2020 Season And Wondering If Classic Jersey's Are Actually Bad

"Skirt. Run through our ass shit to attend more man and we could not stop. We failed. To Make, our coaching points in our points more compelling than their fat little girlfriends bid all. Know we al.. We need more dogs. Hello, welcome to unnecessary roughness presented by high noon. Hard Seltzer, unnecessary references Barstools College Football podcast starring me Brandon Walker. Somebody named. Jessica were. Funny that's. Casey. Brandon first of all you always give yourself top billing, and then now you're just pretending like you don't know my name. Name that's Casey and that over there is Joe Casey, and John Thank you for being on the show I say Joe got a haircut you haven't. Yet he did get a haircut Joe, thank you I got a haircut needed it. It was bad. It was long long as wrong ever been. It was bad. It was I wasn't deny was bad, but we are in the middle of a pandemic I couldn't get a haircut. No. My hair three weeks ago. We still are in the middle of it, you know. What can you guys do aren are I. Don't know that we are anymore. I think it's just gone I think you know what I I'm I want to go to the movies. I want to go to the restaurant. I WANNA go grocery store. Sorry well. In a lot of places in the country, you can do absolutely those things. I got out of New, York a couple of weeks ago and I've been a bunch of different places, and you know what life seems to be a lot more normal outside of New York. But at the same time I've seen a lot of memes, and it's like with all the other stuff that's going on, and all the the rioting and the protesting, and all that it's like the crow buyers just feels like blue at twenty eight to three lead I saw all those memes, and it does feel like that like that's all we cared about it, and now it just feels like it's just not even happening. All right, so here's how the show is going to work. We're under some college football news. I have my my two thousand twenty athlon came in, so my first athlon magazine came in so I've been reading it and I've got some fresh off the donut line. Twenty twenty takes that I. Want to get started. We're going to start looking towards the two thousand twenty season very soon. I got a couple of takes. That are just dying to get out there. And is a big news. Though the fact, the athlon magazine is even coming out and the fact that that that's like that's the first big step. For the season actually start. I feel like once. These magazines start coming out. They can't take it back. Yeah, guess what we're going to have football. I don't care what you do. In the PAC twelve or whatever we're having football, and this is all there is to it and I think we're football fans so. We're going to do all that we'll talk about the news. We'll talk about what I just said. The takes, and we'll do some questions and I just watched the first two questions, two or three questions. They were excellent. Some excellent questions at the very very top. We will I don't know if we'll do too many. It's GonNa be shorter show today, so we'll dive into that I. let me just say. This is a college football podcast and nobody here is immune to the fact of what's going on. We all know what's going on in the world, some real problems. Some real issues are happening in the world. I am on the AC every day on the down a lot. JC's on C. C. K. everyday wear on twitter. Rundown yesterday I said something. A lot of people reacted to. certainly what happened George Floyd and all the protests and the looting a visit is. It is the number one story in this country right now. However I do believe in my heart of hearts that you have pressed play on this podcast because you want to listen to college, football takes comfortable talk, and while I have takes and I've said the mouse where Casey S. she said elsewhere when you click on this podcast i. we are going to give you College Football Casey. Do you agree? I completely agree. It's not silencing a conversation you like. You said you've talked about it. I've logged about it I've talked about it. It's kind of one of those things that you know while you can't believe escape. What's going on in the unrest in this country? If you can for an hour and listen to college football and listen to us, yell at each other, and that's what we're gonNA. Do and that's what we tried to do throughout. Throughout this entire pandemic, and you know obviously we're going to continue to have those conversations elsewhere, but maybe not on necessary roughness. We're not ignoring it. We're just GONNA continue on Talking College football, and if you WANNA takes, they're out there. Baby Sports are the ultimate distraction, and so will this podcast, but we also need sports back in the worst way, and hopefully the NBA with the first one coming back in jail coming back as well. It will be all good, so we've got some. I think baseball is done by the way I don't. Think so now you hang around with people talking about baseball two months ago. She works. They're gonNA. They're talking about it talking about it at the last minute. They're going to get a deal then. That's probably fair. It's all doomsday when we talk about baseball. My Program Radio Program is too far in that direction. It's either going to get a deal done at the last minute. All right so. Several items of news out there that have happened since last week. Some. They vary and importance and cultural relevance, so let's just start with the least important one culturally jt Daniels transfers to Georgia. Former five star recruits that was at USC got beat out from job. I Don Slovaks after he got hurt, he is now transferred to Georgia. My question to you to everybody out there. The recruits in College Football Players Not Watch College, Football, Games that was my question, I do not understand. What these guys are looking at when they say I want to be a successful quarterback at the college football level. Let me go play for Kirby smart after what he's done with other quarterbacks there, what are we talking about? Joe You have your hand up. Didn't you've said the same thing about next even before to attack allowing the certainly, and you certainly could have said it probably about arms around before job, saw and I. Tell You guys are wrong. That's fair. That's fair however. Three years ago Jake from showed a Georgia with a lot of promise and led the team to a national championship game. And under three years of coaching, the coaching he received from the Georgia bulldogs he got markedly works. He got even every single year. Yeah, the junior version of him was the worst version of him, and he ended up being late round draft pick I also I also I know. I feel like there's an element and I'm not hating Georgia because it takes a lot to compete at the national championship level, which is what they've gotten to and broken through yet. They're competing in a national title level. I almost feel like Kirby is just the rich guy who buys the nicest things just so he can have them, and not because he really knows how to use them or needs them. He got and I know JT Daniels has multiple years left, but he went out, and he got the coveted Grad, transfer Jamie Newman two months ago from wake forest, just because Jamie new the shiny toy out there, he was the most coveted. Georgia has never shown. They know how to run. Offenses fit by Jamie Newman. They've never shown. They know how to run a read. Option offense or anything curb smart number ran a read. Option offense all of a sudden. They get Jamie noon. Well, assigning a toy comes out T. Daniels. Let's go get him to now. What if he becomes immediately eligible? You just went and got Jamie new, and you're just GonNa Bench. Him has last year. Because you're a Dick and you can't take the most expensive item out there. That's what I want I know it takes. I know it takes cutthroat recruiting. Annotate it when you heard that level. You have to get the best players, but. Some programs and schools seem to just. Stockpile for the sake of stockpiling without knowing how to actually use the stockpile. Saving knows how to use it on knows how to use it. Just seems like he goes on a shopping. Spree throws everything in the car. I figured out later. Well, and we've seen in the past. I mean obviously I saw it up close at an. Go stockpile different quarterbacks. You also have to be telling what did he? WHAT DID KIRBY SMART? Say to Jamie Newman because you saw Kevin someone. Do it with Kyle Murray. Kyle and then at the end of the day. You probably told them very similar things, and it didn't work out and they both left. So what did Kirby Smart? Say when Jamie Newman was coming a Georgia I. I would assume he said. Hey, you're going to be starting quarterback next year. You're a grad transfer. You only have one year. Oh, by the way now we're gonNA come in and have a quarterback battle jt Daniels who probably would still be the starting quarterback? Had he not gotten hurt last year? And like you said it has to be cut throat, but at the same time. What are you? What are you doing this just it again. Governor in a golf cart every time I say that I. Get. Georgia fans all Pissy at me, but until that changes what he did to jake from doesn't scream quarterback success. Why would j Daniels want to go to Georgia and then on top of that? What are they going to do Jamie Newman to Jack's point, it only takes one so of Jd Daniels is the guy that breaks Georgia through because they're going to have national title talent all over the field if he's. He's the one that brings them through doesn't matter. Jamie Newman doesn't matter about anybody. Jamie Newman's and one. The brakes through doesn't matter about jt Daniels, so just takes a while the betting as a betting man, which I know that you are and I know you can't wait to be betting on sports again. If you had to put money right now. WHO WAS GONNA be the starting quarterback at between Jamie Newman and JT Daniels first name this? Even who would it be I think Jamie Newman I don't know. The Daniels has a reason to be mealy eligible. If okay, hypothetically, if it's true quarterback battle. If it was the quarterback, it would be, it would be jt. which would suffer Jamie Newman and when something new? It would suck, but you know. Whatever that's what it is, but I think Jamie Newman we'll be starting quarterback because I don't think jt. Daniels, has any reason to be mealy eligible. I don't see why. You'll would be granted that waiver he's going from. From California, so there's not going closer to home so. We'll see I. Don't think we'RE GONNA. Have to deal with that and Jamie Newman J Daniels. If in fact, you know Jamie Newman this year, jt Daniels and it's a hell of one, too. So Kirby might play this exactly right I just looks a little weird to me. Justice I would. I would stockpile talent to I. Think I think? Really to I wait, we all would. Everybody would, but it does seem. It does seem like. Kirby's kind of Just buying everything without really any rhyme or reason to it. Then again. Maybe maybe I'm an idiot. Justin Ross out for the season. Just Ross tremendous receiver for Clinton from the State of Alabama awesome a couple years ago, congenital fusion in the net career may be over. That is tough. It's rough. Trevor Lawrence loses a weapon Justin. Ross was going to be a first round. Pick. That's that's that's bad. That's bad all the way round. All the way round. You concern that Trevor Won't have weapons to throw to. I mean what are we talking about? CLEMSON'S GONNA lose their five star receivers and have to have to rely on their high four-star receivers. They're not. I I just don't know. The clemson has a dearth receivers. Plus you're. You're in the ACC he's not. He's not in the not in the big ten. He's not going to Ohio state. I'm not really concerned with that I. Think Trevor Lawrence is GonNa make his guys better. I think this'll be the best version. We ever see them Trevor Lawrence. You've got embarrassed the national title game. I think for twelve games this season. He's going to be a man on a mission, so I don't really think it affects him that much like you said. I mean Davos stockpiles talent to so there might not be like another huge five star. Star like Justin Ross, but there's going to be somebody else there, and also from what we've seen in Trevor Lawrence outside of the national title game last year. It's not his receivers that make him better. They obviously help that, but he is such a good quarterback that he's going to make whoever's around him. A better receiver so I'm not worried about that at all, but it does suffer for the for just Ross. Obviously, that's not great. Staying with Clemson so. To items of big news here. Yesterday it was on twitter that a former Clemson player said. After Dabo was trying to come out, and Clinton put off his picture of Dabo leading them in arm-in-arm which tableau always. Front Center anyway I'm not going to harp on that right now. SMIRK on your face when you start talking about him and you know that you get to talk a little bit of Shit. Just it just brings me a little over. A minute, maybe not on this sort of I'm going to defend them in the second story I'm GonNa. Defend Him Oh. But. Yeah! He's always going to be front and center of Edit Everything Clinton does anyway. Player implied on twitter that a former clemson coach. Said said a slur. He's said a slur to the the N. word. I mean let's just be honest. That's what he employs slithers yeah! That's what was said. And then we find out later that it wasn't fact. CLEMSON assistant coach. WHO said. He apologized last night. He said you know I last year when I was trying to tell a player not to say a certain word I said the word or that was a story was trying to play player not to say certain word I said the word I apologize to everybody. It was kept quiet then. and. I don't know right now. In this time. The country that is the. Boy, it's it's. It's a rough time in this country as country or something like that come out. Go ahead. I was GONNA. Say and more of those stories. We'll probably start coming out. Because of what we are seeing in the country, you know obviously the George Floyd thing you mentioned sparked it, but now more of these stories are going to be happening, and it's going to be like well. It was you know potentially buried. Potentially it's been happening at different programs, but for this situation at Clemson. It seems like it's more of like A. he said she said situation and. Flat out can't use that word. It doesn't matter. You cannot use that word so whatever the situation is. It's just not a good luck. Well, that's fine. No, it's not a good look, and no, you don't WanNa be in the news for this. However, I do think intent should matter in this country in any situation, intent should matter. They're saying something, and then they're saying something so if the coach is telling the truth that he heard the word from players mouth, and said Hey, don't say and then he said the word. You brought. You shouldn't because he's not say he shouldn't say it. But if you're trying to eliminate the word from your player and you accidentally say it, that's different from. If you said if you going down the road, you just said it. There is intent there if the man was trying to teach a guy, and he was trying to eliminate that word from his vocabulary on what broncos field that is different. We should treat a different, shouldn't we? The original tweet was implying that he was calling players that slur which again I. Think is the worst thing that. The coach says that's what the coach says I was I was telling them not to say it and I said right well. Yes, so that's where it is i. mean again I I don't think there's ever reason for it to be said especially by a white person, but at the same time like you're absolutely right like the original tweet made it look like he was calling somebody that which is absolutely horrendously bad for a coach to be doing on for anybody to be doing that. He shouldn't have repeated it, but if he. He really was repeating it to try to teach a lesson at it just came out of his mouth. There is a different level of intent and that wasn't portrayed in the tweet because they're going to be people that don't see what he said. They're going to be people that don't know what actually happened and they're just going to assume that that culture is going on at clemson underneath Dabbagh and the assistant coaches racist, and you just can't assume those things. If you don't know the story the same time just say that's right. I think Davos is I've caught him a phone and fake believe he's a racist I. Don't run the racist, organization. If the if it comes out that the player says the coach was calling them that then you need to fire that coach immediately. That coach needs me by. There's no excuse for I, am I? I really believe if Davos all coach. Calling player a certain word, he would firearm immediately. Feel trusted I mean that's common decency. On top of that. This was a culture that was going on. At clemson, it wouldn't just now becoming out because you can't tell me that you have an entire roster full of players that if an assistant coaches calling players that word that we wouldn't have known about that because there's no chance they wouldn't be like. Hey, I'm not playing for this guy. This guy is a racist and then to double down on us like you know people. People make fun of Daboh for his beliefs and obviously beliefs are easy to say you know we don't know his true faith, but I have a really hard time believing somebody like Fabio who speaks out the way that he does on what he believes would allow something like that to go on. Maybe I'm naive, but there's just too many things that are missing here, but at the end of the day. Just tell say just don't say. You can avoid all this. No. That's that's ultimately. He's just shouldn't say it should say. One More clemson thing and then we'll move on from the news. And, this is something I just kinda pulled out. It's not really a news item, but. So earlier this week Daboh had the press conference and I I texted you guys on the reference section. I said I got fifty bucks, says he cries that he he uses this and he fakes cries. He didn't so, but there's some sports writers out there. that are keeping score and things. They don't need to keep score about. Forty after he put out, says daboh. Sweeney's statement misses the mark. Pat Forty and he tweeted out, and there were others that wrote these things. Dan Bulkin was one saying the daboh. Didn't come out strong enough against the George Floyd. They didn't come out strong enough against the the looting or whatever you know what I'm talking about. It didn't come out strong enough against police, brutality and all of that. When I want to know is why or sports writers keeping score with coaches when these sports writers have a hundred two hundred thousand followers. If these sports writers want, these things said, why don't they say it? Why don't they come out and say the things why? Why is sports writer Dan? Wilkins sitting with his tape recorder and making a note of everything, a coach says and saying well. He didn't say the right thing. It's hard to say the right thing right now it's it's it's not. It's not a fun time in America's not a good time in America. Daboh came out, and from the heart was saying we are against this. We're against US where we don't believe in. This is a tough time this country and because he didn't say like a certain set of words or woken or forty, they got all pissed off about it. Sports writers need to start writing about sports and stopped writing about their feelings about life. They WANNA be life reporters. They voted the opinion. Reporters go do that. Go cover the world. It's out there to be covered. Stop just stop telling me that these I remember a couple of weeks ago. When Dan Mullen, whenever might lead? You know might lead in Key West. He should be with his players during a fucking pandemic. They're keeping these these coaches to this cultural standard that they themselves believe in, but not everybody believes in exactly what they believe in I. Don't know maybe I'm just ranting. No I agree with you. It's like they're the gatekeepers of what is right and wrong, but if you don't come out and say what your opinion is, then it's like well. How like how are you to say anything about what somebody else's opinion is? If you're not going to share your own opinion and I understand that outlets don't have the freedom like we do. Do at parcel. Obviously you and I and everybody else can share our opinions, and were given that right and we can go against David Erica's opinions. A lot of places don't have that, but if you don't have the capability to put your opinion out there, then you shouldn't be either agreeing completely or disagreeing completely with somebody's opinion unless you put your own out. I feel about it. When somebody puts themselves out there you shouldn't. You shouldn't sit there with like a stop watching and and say up. He was supposed to tell for twelve seconds. He only taught for eleven. He's he's not a good person. That's that's an asshole thing to do. Yeah. Put Your Voice behind it then it's like well okay. You don't agree with what he says. Well, then. What are you believe? That's the way I see with any of this stuff sports writers are not. It's like you're telling me that somebody's wrong will tell me why they're wrong, but these aren't doing that. They're just saying they're wrong. And it's like well okay. What are we supposed to believe from you then? There's a lot of also like well data, says this now, but he said this in twenty fourteen in this and twenty twelve I mean like you can change your opinion and also Pat Ford has vendetta against uconn football in Yukon as a whole, so he's been on. My ship was for a very long time when you were excited when I said his name. Then it's Pat Four. I was really excited. A decks purposely disrespecting him by calling the wrong name I think. Going further I haven't announcement Casey. Boy I can hardly wait I. spoke to the people behind the scenes, and there is high noon. Peach Flavor headed to my house right now. Now you know that I have fully enveloped I'm fully on board. With high known I love the Black Cherry I love the grapefruit. I love the watermelon, but you've sold me on the peach and I've got peach on the way right now, and it might be the happiest I've been all year. Brandon. Life is about to change. It's true because the variety pack incredible all the flavors that you just mentioned, but like I said last week. If I could bathe in a peach, I would by the way the fact that nobody has sent me a whole bunch of Peach Bay then it kind of makes me. Sad offer still stands. You're popping off because I know I. had at least three DM. Saying I'll buy the peach if she'll really do it, okay. There are a lot of people that were there were offering to send me a whole bunch so I could I trap in it? But then they started also getting that well. If you do it, then, brandon might have to do it. No one wants to see him in a bathtub full of high noon, but the two new flavors, peach and lime are legitimately life changing and I tell people all the time. We don't sell high noon. Just because they're paying for this podcast, we sell it because we actually love it, and it's real juice, and I never thought I would like peach juice, but guess what that Shit is delicious, so grow I'm having a black area right now and I'm like I don't know if you see my face I'm kind of going through an epiphany. I decided watermelon was my favorite, but I look this. You're really good. This is really. You're looking at it as if you want to like kiss it. Agree that island. Hey, girl, I didn't know. That knowing that he gave it that two am look like whenever you're at a bar, and you're just looking around your like that's the one you look. You look a lot better than I thought you look. The fact that we've gone back to back weeks talking about high noon with me bathing in it, and now you talking about basically just taking it home to have sex with. It's very strange. To a. m., things happen. That that is true, but high noon again it's the it's the summer. It's hot outside in most places in the country. Now it's going to be the drink up twenty twenty tailgates. It's so good and the fact that you're about to get a peach brain and Walker happy for you. I enjoy my heart so excited transition from from the news, too. So I got my twenty twenty long magazine him. Just reading the magazine takes put out there for the twenty twenty football season. I'M GONNA. Go ahead and state. My claim on some takes. From there, okay? There are three teams above the rest and twenty twenty, and you can guess the three teams. They're kind of the teams that have been above everybody for the last decade. Clinton Alabama and Ohio state to me are the most well rounded and best looking teams. Alabama has a new quarterback, but he played pretty well last year and they've got everything I state has a quarterback. Clinton has quarterback then they're good elsewhere, but once you get past number three. I think the rest of the top ten I think it could be a very fluid year, was I? I think it's here's a lot of teams with problems up there like in his athlon Penn state's number four and I look at Penn state number four, and I think they they can make the playoffs. They're going to be really really good. They win the big ten, but do I believe Shawn Clifford is good enough quarterback to be Ohio state and to go to the playoff. I don't know Florida's way up there. Florida's number six. Florida looks like they're very good on paper. Do they have enough to beat a roster? WHO's more talented in Georgia and tonight? Rosie Kyle Trask as the best quarterback in the SEC I really can't see that. Oregon has a new quarterback number five. Is Oregon Good Enough Oklahoma. Is You know my thoughts on Oklahoma their phony program out there and they're replacing. Their quarterback were wasting so much. Do I believe Oklahoma I really believe after those top three. It's going to be very fluid these. Even with your take on Oklahoma, and again like I obviously was wrong about Oklahoma by the I knew they were going to get beat, but I mean I'm not saying them, but I mean replacing a quarterback in Oklahoma has been a problem for them until they get to the playoff I mean in the in the big twelve. They've not had a problem replacing a quarterback, but at the same time those. Those top three teams are it feels like the gap is so much bigger than it usually is. Because there's so many, there's so many question marks, but we can say the same thing last year. Nobody saw Lsu doing what they did, so it's like a like it's always talking season, but at the time you know who the best teams are in the country. It's not. It's not a guest this year. They might be even stronger this year outside. Alabama needs to find a quarterback I believe you know savings shown so many times that he can roll the new new guy and be just fine, so I'm going to give him. The benefit of the doubt and quarterback entering the best quarterbacks were just feels intrepid Lawrence and they're the only other two teams. And Justin fields is one of the best quarterbacks in the country. Because he left Georgia failed. You know I think he would have been good. Good otherwise but well, but again Georgia. I'm claiming Oklahoma state right now. They're mine. They're mine. I I believe Oklahoma State will win the big ten big twelve. Tim Yours I claimed him. Check I claimed them last year. No, you didn't say. Famous clip about Spencer's Sanders Oh. You, but you were wrong last year I. don't carry over from year to year. Now. I think that it does carry over because. There might team. They got they got. They got a great receiver. A great running back good quarterback. They got a good coach. Bringing back. I think all eleven defensive starters. I have a question for you. So when Max Kellerman every single year says that Tom. Brady's GonNa fall a cliff, and then he doesn't fall off, said cliff, but he brings it back. It's still Max Kellerman. Take so while I want to agree with you brandon. Jack did ride with Oklahoma state last year, so I don't think that we can take Oklahoma, state. He wrote him no for cliff. They died. They weren't good this year. They're going to be really good, but he didn't never walk it back. I will I don't think I could be wrong, but I. don't think that he ever came out and said like Oh. I was completely wrong about Oklahoma. State like I was wrong about Nebraska and you. We've all been wrong. Jack step by Oklahoma state until he no longer could. Actually Jack off the show if I. I will kick off the show. I did A. You're not wrong about that. From that specific game against Texas before I was saying that I'd rather have Oklahoma state's weapons than taxes. I was wrong in Texas won that game, but I will share him okay Brandon. Oh don't you give him like? I will consider it I was I was talking about Spencer Sanders will. You probably knows name. When I was talking about Spencer Stamps. I liked him in high school. You know what this makes me excited because it's early June but now we already know one of the things that's going to carry on all the way through December and it's who claimed Oklahoma state I. If they are actually really good and win the big twelve in the conversation nationally, the two of you will be arguing about Brandon I argued about Oklahoma last year. Jack Fire have to. Plant something in his desk all right. Notre Dame has been have been overrated for so long. The nobody's looking right now and they are underrated. NERD aim has cycled around from the overrated, overrated, thirty, three and six the last three years. They're really good. Last year they went ten and two and one to the camping world. They were really good last year, and they will be playoff. Good this year I think Ian. Book is good enough to get them to play off win the playoffs and their schedule is more difficult to season, but notre. Dame will be playoff good this year. They've been overrated for so long. People just think they're overrated, but they will in fact, beat underrated. They have been one of those teams wearing Jackie. Know this. We talked about this. A bunch of a bunch of times like in two thousand eighteen I rode with Notre, dame, because they had such, an easy schedule in the ACC was such trash, but then it was so easy because of how embarrassing they were in the playoffs. Talk Shit about them last year. They didn't have a bad year last year and most teams would want to have. Have what they had, but it's just so hard whenever their independence. You don't hear about the near as much whenever they're not going to be in the playoffs, but it is easy to say like I. think that we underrated them. Last year we talked too much shit, but at the same time until they show that they belong in the national playoff picture it's it's easy to to kind of ignore that right. I mean am I wrong there. Schedule! The schedules deaf go first of all. They got Clemson this year. That's tough. They got a consonant lambofield. then. They gotta go to Georgia Tech after Clemson. Then they central home. What Georgia Tech Sucks. Though, continue to get better. I. I have to go to pit and pits, not going to be bad this year. But I mean like it's like you play Clemson and you gotTA. Go to Georgia Tech. And, then you gotTa play accuracy. That's top Jack. We're talking about tough schedule. I mean George X the. Toughest game schedule. I just. I mean. I'm not worried about Notre Dame. When they played Georgia, tech however again in two thousand eighteen, when they did make the playoff, the whole thing was the ACC was so down. Georgia tech is a better football team than the teams that they were like they played Florida state in eighteen that was a dumpster fire. Hold on Casey. Did you like when I claimed Oklahoma State and took him, Jack. Did I like it? I didn't really carry their way. I just felt like I'm about deployment another team. Oh, boy, okay. Is it going to be see this is the thing is like I'll stand up for jacket if you try to take one of my teams. It's not one of your teams. It's not one of the things you've been high on. Okay! Ladies and gentlemen. Texas. A and M. Breaks through this year. Texas am breaks through okay? Right here right now, I'm about to say a statement. Heading into week eleven. At our against Alabama. will be no. Are you trying to tell me that you're claiming a football team? From what I told you that I am getting out in front. I believe Texas is about to have their breakout season under Jimbo Fisher. Their defense is going to be really good. Their offense is good on not great, but guess what. Really isn't any greatness at quarterback in the SEC. If there's every year, be led by a great quarterback and be okay. It's this year in the SEC. Who got to be better than? You Sucks Better Philippe a Franks in the these are the SEC west. QUARTERBACKS Makarau Flea Bay Franks, Bo Knicks Mack, Jones K. take Delo Mississippi. State is going to be pretty good. Miles Brennan lsu Killing Mon- looks open any more, does he? They're gonNA pretend. I'm really torn right now. Because part of me wants to be mad at you for trying to claim my Alma Mater. But, then on the flip side, you're saying very nice things about my team. You're saying great things about an first of all the idea of them. Being ten ano- ever is crazy to me because they usually just fall apart at the end of October so I don't know if I should be mad at you, right now are not like. You can't claim my school, but you're saying really nice things, and usually you don't so. I, don't know which way to go. Do you claimed her school? Is there anything she can do about it I mean? You can't take my school away from me, but you can. We can share like Jackson we can share. Out into the schedule. Are you reading. Say Schedule Abilene reschedule. Abilene Christian one when North Texas. When Colorado at home. When Arkansas. When although that game is always really weird and tough. Here's I will give you the next one. I'll just say when it's atmosphere state. I'll let you have it. When Fresno State at home. When. At South Carolina. When. Ole at home. Quick. Vanderbilt at home. When and the only one that's in question in that first ten games as at Auburn. Look at those fingers casing. You're at nine. You're you're nine and without even breaking a sweat. I didn't break a sweat the. You know what's really sad. Is that the only one that I started to break a little bit of sweat on was Arkansas because since no, no since they played grants to state, it's. Weird that you think the close Games Arkansas. Lose whereas speaking of shit out of most of the last decade. I know that I understand that that's what I just said I Mississippi State normally beats an, but the problem is. Is that if I'm having this? Hope that you're feeding me first of all you just you saying they're going to win. It means that you think they're gonNA. Be Mississippi State, so you don't have hope in your team. Why would I but that Arkansas game always freaks me out? Arkansas was one of the worst teams in the country last year in an almost found a way to loss to him. As those one of those things, it's just weird. GonNa win. That Game Arkansas Stinks Arkansas onate me SEC again. I have no doubt about that, but that's what my whole point is I'm not worried about them losing that game, but if I was going to sweat in that little game that we just played for some reason, Arkansas gave me a tablet of pause, but again you're claiming this team. Welcome to twenty twenty. You haven't had battered syndrome. Your entire life like I have had hope. What are you talking to single year? What do you mean this state fan? What are you talking about? I'm talking about am. You're. Your. Your your sadness is more is worse than my said. No No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about that. It's not comparing I'm saying when you are talking about Texas am and having hope Texas Emma's going to break through when you've lived your entire life thinking that that's going to happen, and it just never happens. I have a hard time getting behind you now I do agree with the SEC. West is much more open this area. You always talk about being in the SEC. West is so much tougher because you've got Alabama obviously lsu losing. Joe Borough you the both Mississippi schools new head coaches. Arkansas Missouri the whole. I mean excuse me Who am I missing. Auburn Alabama lsu better. Yes so so I understand what you're saying and I do think. Jimbo is the guy to help? Turn around that program because winning a national championship in call triple is difficult, even if you do have some named Jameson I, just have so much. It's so much pain to have hope an brandon. That's all that it is so if you want to do it, that's fine, but you can't claim my team. You can't do that well. I just did the first upset of the season. Will be when the Auburn Tigers lose to the North Carolina Tar heels. Happens to I didn't really see one in week. One I liked the north. Carolina Tar heels jacket, shaking his head vigorously. Here's why Mac round and his second year. He did great things as first year. Here's another. Take that I'm GONNA put on top of that Sam. How the freshman quarterback was better than I thought? Meaning I news good last year, but I just look at his numbers, you realize. He threw thirty seven touchdowns and nine interceptions last year he was electric. The with the ACC. We talked about it all last season. Was it was clemson and then everybody else, so we didn't pay attention anybody, but when you, when North Carolina fans do get in our twitter mentions or kind of interact with us. After the PODCAST. They were the ones that kept saying like hello, did you notice how good he actually was? And so I started paying attention to those numbers with early heisman odds came out, and I was like. Holy Shit, he was actually really good. Really, really good, really good matter because they're not Clemson, but like the again. That's that's a side effect of the ACC being so shitty outside a Clemson, because if Getting better this year I think a lot of the ACC. I agree with that I. Mean it's hard because they have Trevor Lawrence and he's going to be on a revenge tour and everything else, but you know we talk about how Clemson all your felt like they were being disrespected because the conference was so bad when you have ADT team, might north. Carolina and you saw what Matt Brown was doing, and you know I love back. Brown like that was quieted because the conference was so bad and so Sam Hal became a side effect of that, but when you look actually look at what happened there last year like this team is not far off from being a real competitor in that conference. My lasted for twenty twenty, and then we'll get to the questions. Jack I. Don't know if you're ready, but we'll get to him. To the best coaches in the country that never get mentioned to the best coaches in the country or both first-year guys last year and I think they're about to build really good teams and programs at Chris Climate at Kansas State. And Scott Satterfield at Lewis Scott Right. Scott Satterfield. Satterfield at Louisville, one game from upstate. One came North Dakota state. They both took big steps in their first year. I Louisville was incredible, incredibly different and one year under center field they got to to well, they can run the ball they're. They're vaguely team Chris. Climate I can't tell you. The difference in the to Kansas Day teams I saw Mississippi State play the last two years. He's going to build something Kansas. State Satterfield is going to be something. Louisville and nobody talks about these coaches. I don't hate that I just. It's just Kansas Again Kansas. State is one of those schools. It's like I just can't. They've been great in the past. It's just so weird to think that they could even be in the mix again, but again when you talk about the top upper echelon of coaches, we talk about know there's obviously you know who the best coaches in the country are, but then there's all the names like we've talked about like Mark Dantonio. He's always in the conversation for like a top coach in the country. He's just not. Has the prominence Casey all all the coaches that are always in those lists that are earned the best coaches lists aren't really that good anymore, right? Every time you talk about the best country. Somebody's GonNa say what about Gary Patterson. America lately about Pat Fitzgerald sucked where what about curt, parents eight four every year? There's a difference in the coaches. We talk about and and coach electric list. Yet Chris, Peterson is like all I feel like Milwaukee. Times when you talk about the top five coaches Chris. Peterson's name always kind of floats around. They're like Washington's not done a whole lot. I completely agree with you. The problem is is when those names are so. For a casual fan, they look like well. You know there's there's daboh Nick Sabin and then there's you know you go down the list that newer guys are always going. Not Get the benefit of the doubt, but what? They were building at those programs last year being their first year in power five. Great so we'll have to see if they have a sophomore slump. But before we get to your questions brandon. I've noticed that you have still not been wearing any normal close during this quarantine at all you still rocking the sweatpants and the t shirts. I mean. Have you put on real pants one time. No, no, not to either I'm planning to make it all the way through the summer with nobler jeans. This is no blue jeans summer. I've been wearing the quilted Barschel's sweatpants like pretty much every day. You know how Dave had the the purple sweatpants thing going kind of adopted that my black sweatpants and got them from stored up. Arsenal sports dot com, because I needed another pair, because I've worn them out and obviously barstool sports store has covered. If you want coffee mugs, if you want sweatpants. If you WANNA cut some partial deck of cards, we have all we can keep you comfortable and entertained as pandemic does continue, but even when it doesn't. If you just go to store Barstool, sports DOT COM. You can shop anything and everything right now. Jack. I asked you to go out to rough next to our people and say hey. What are you guys WanNa talk about you got some questions and you're going to read the questions off to me and I'm going to answer them and might let Casey talk a little bit. Thanks, it's so sweet. I love that game plan. We're going to start with Brian. Connolly at beat. Connie team. Go one is a good starter. Twenty Fourteen Mississippi. State Verse Twenty Twelve Texas saying Dak verse, Johnny Who Wins State beat the PISS. Out, of them kid. What are you talking about? Oh I'm sorry. Did Johnny Getting this team? The number one did I miss that. Now that you want to heisman trophy! Individual Award I'm talking about teaming. Team you can look in the NFL. DAK PRESCOTT! He's been the pro bowl couple of years I got Chris Jones on that teams. One of the Pro Bowl Bernard mckinney in. Mississippi state was littered with with Pro Stars on that team. Mike is is I think decent in the NFL I will. I will give you the fact that obviously Mississippi. State was number. One and Dak very clearly has a much better nfl career than Johnny Johnny's not having a bad nfl career because of his talent. He's having a bad and he has no career because of his life choices. You can't tell me and I loved covering Mississippi. State, when back was there I? Don't think that he should be the highest paid quarterback in the League even though that's what he thinks. You can't tell me brandon. Walker that you believe that. When AM UPSET ALABAMA? The number one team in the country and the only reason that they lost a Florida and Lsu was because of a field goal. Kicker understand the Florida game. There was some defensive mistakes, too. That you can say without a doubt. The DAK Prescott would have beat a Johnny Manziel stadium team. You can't tell me that. Football Casey. I have to have reason I just have. Faith in my dame. Yes, I can absolutely tell you that that I can't I shout out. What who who was the guy that gave us a question? Grind Connolly, be con- Eighteen. The fact that we haven't had that discussion before now is very interesting. That's a great conversation. Like how do we actually like planned for this like I feel like maybe down the line in the offseason. Wish actually like come with actual facts on this. Because it's incredible conversation. Good for him all right, let's go. I would take. Texas A&M in that just. certain Ted Lasso at Theodore. Lasso is always a great question. I don't know if we've ever talked about it. Though, would you skip a family member or close friends wedding to attend a huge game irrespective teams. If you have tickets, yeah. Are. You kidding, of course I would. So you would skip the wedding to go to a game. How close how close a friend are we talking? Just get my sister's wedding. My. Sister's twenty five. You're going to get married one day. She better not get married. The falls on. Tell You well. The good news for people like us is that it's actually our job, so we have a built in excuse like you get married in the fall. Sorry about you like even if we're not on the road. If you're in the south and you get married in the fall. You're an asshole. Or if you get married in the fall, and you know that a lot of people that are either in your wedding or that are coming to your wedding are big time college football fans. Yes, I! Agree that your national I'm GonNa say I would have to skip it and I use the work. Excuse because I'm usually either on the road or I'm having to stream or whatever, so I don't even have to act like it. It would be very hard. It was like my sister's wedding, but then again if my sister got married in the fall like my whole family would riot. There's fifty two saturdays in a year. There's fifteen days in the college football season thirty, seven hundred as they get married. Don't interfere with anything. This is just where it's nice to work in sports. You have a built in excuse, no matter what especially, if you don't want to go to a wedding, that's really nice like. It's like a wedding that you would be fringe on if it was between January and August I don't really know if I WANNA go, but I don't WanNa, look like an asshole if it's in the fall, you just like sorry, gotTa make. Money all. Right Jack. Typical Chicago fans at the coil shock cog up at typical underscore Chicago. Best football kickoff time. Phenomenal Just an unbelievable question so good. Question so good that referred to Houston to thirty central on that CBS. Window is perfect because in in in the winter when it gets called when it's dark. You you have, it starts in the in the bride of the day in the in the dark of the night. That's college football that that that ending at beginning and sunshine and ending in the darkest night that to me has caused football I second to that I would say I would say like six, thirty, nine, six o'clock at night. But I don't like twelve. o'clock kicks at all eleven o'clock checks. I do think it matters if you're actually going to the game versus watching it at home, because if you're actually going to the game, I prefer night games because you have all day to get ready for it, and you can tailgate, or if you're working. Obviously, our show is going to be a little bit later, but for as far as TV viewing it definitely is at three thirty two thirty slot because you get to see the day, turn into the. The night you're not exhausted from watching college football. Yeah, because the later you get especially if they're blowouts. If you're watching a night game, and it's a blow out like you're just like. You're not even interested anymore, but she's still. Have you already digested college football in the morning? Maybe not cared about it as much, but you have, and then you also have the prime time games look forward to, and it's just that one game a much fun to watch. Nathan Long. Underscore Nathan long six. Were thoughts on the Cup Cup cupcake games in November. So we're talking to see year, but this isn't this news at all I wanted on people. Again. I just don't I. Don't think that big of a deal I. You know if you'RE AUBURN And you play! Let's say just for hypothetical. You play you. Go An lsu Georgia Abilene. Christian, Alabama s still four out of five weeks. You're playing top ten teams. Am I really going to get on that team and shame them for playing for playing a game in front Alabama, no, I in the SEC which they asked us as the one. That doesn't there the comment, I don't like them at the time, but I understand them. I understand them. If you play in the SEC I remember Mississippi State one year. In the West. Two, thousand ten. There were five other teams in the West. When Mississippi State play them. One of them was in the top ten, every single one of them Arkansas Lsu Auburn Alabama. That right five. Okay, yeah, maybe I don't know that doesn't seem an almost wasn't. The top team played four top ten teams. If. A team plays four five teams on season. Tough fifteen teams twenty teams. Who cares what they do the week before the rival, I don't understand. I'll tell you why I don't like. It is because it's a built in excuse for people when they talk about the SEC because you're right in a vacuum totally makes sense. I hate that week especially when I was covering the sidelines, I hated the idea that I was going to cover it shooting game that week. In November because at that point you are ramping. Ramping up for conference championships and everything else, but I hate that it's an excuse that's why I hate it. Because every other conference can look at and be like Oh. CUPCAKE CUPCAKE SEC game. That's great scheduled an. If you don't want to complain about it, that's why I don't like it because it gives people a built in reason to hate on the SEC are. Skip one that I won't I. Don't want you to skip. To how many more yet? We'll see I was humour. We we can do that one. My order may be different on law twitter than yours just based upon like can i. just ask this one because I don't want to miss. Yeah of course gus. trion at Gus Trion, says who were when the national championship, if every position was filled by clones of their head coach in their prime. Go by their head coach clones of their head coach in their prime I have my answer and I don't know if that's GonNa. Coaches Yeah Oh, that's good. Jack. How let you weigh in as well? Jack, you have to go I. I think I have my answer, but I'm I'm second guessing even in my own brain. And if there's you know. In their prime. My answer is Arizona State. Oh herm. Edwards was a NFL, all pro defensive back. He was very good. If I can staff my entire team out of NFL, albro defensive backs. Arizona State wins the hypothetical clone prime coaches title. That's I mean that's that's the only answer I, for. This other slum no. But I mean I wouldn't. Even! Think about that Jack Do you have. That Fitz, Gerald. Bad about one. I think he was an all American and. Then smart was very smart. Jim Harbaugh won't be an awful answer, not that it was anything special, but you. You have a full team of him against like a Mack Brown or somebody, you probably do pretty good. It's tough, because like you're talking about actual. Playing Primes, which is clearly what the question was, but then like it's sneaking in my head like I mean granted like Derek. Mason didn't do shit like he has a player, but like as a coach and the way he looks now like if you played in like in his physical prime. If you had an entire team that looked like him. That'd be tough to be I think that he could go out there and beat current players right now. Spot player answer as well to. God Frost. From I'm looking at right now, Scott. Frost is not a terrible one. Does? No He, he just played I mean. He played it like northern Arizona, but he didn't make it to the League. That's where what I'm saying like. Obviously, if we're talking about actual playing time, you're going to go with somebody who had a career in the league, but for some reason just looking at that guy like how like just intense and athletic, he still looks even at his age i. mean he played like. When did he even play like in the eighties? Is He that old? Derek Mason. I think he played in like they say. Something like that. Yeah, but I I don't know I mean that's a great question. Herm Edwards feels like the slam dunk on that arguments saying something. ooh, r.i.p Johnny Majors from Tennessee and Pat. Dye from Auburn died last couple days Johnny, majors was legendary coach at Tennessee and Tennessee fans out like. Phil Foden railroad out of their twenty years ago, but that okay I'm gonNA. Forgive you John. Major's was incredible. Ray Coach and are happy to have. Jack, B. R., P.. S.. All. Right! Rit that feels like that maybe shouldn't have been like in the news because now I just feel like anything we talk about afterwards. I kind of feel like an asshole. John Hewitt. John Hugh. Eight, three, seven, five, four, six six. One. Asked me. Walk during the Home Jerseys in the SEC. You just say like best one jump to rank them all but home jerseys in SCC. I. Don't like this. I don't like this. Because every time you rank may I saw somebody last week ranked all the jerseys and SEC and it's always based on money or something else like yet. The I saw my rank had am nine Mr state thirteen. They're the same Goddamn Jersey. They're the. They're both Adidas. They were the same thing the exact same thing don't. Think, we're the same thing. The colors are the same designs are not the same. The helmets I mean obviously aren't. The same and Thomas are far surpassed the home jerseys helmets. Far Superior to anything. To Mississippi State say yes. But I will say. We're talking about Jersey's not see orange I'd say Tennessee. Orange has has a Great Jersey Alabama. How securities are way too plane? I I. Love Alabama Jerseys Mon. You don't, it's just a jersey, it's a junior high jersey. Nobody loves Alabama's colors. No as I. Say Okay Love Been Strung. Helmet and Just Plain Jersey. NOBODY LOVES ALABAMA NOBODY LOST reinstate. There are a lot of people that love both of those by the way I mean. Nobody loves it. They're just playing jerseys. You could just go to this printer and say hey. Man Football Jersey that's it. I think that Alabama I agree with you with Penn State. I'm not a fan of their helmets and we're talking about jerseys. Shirt. But it's just the classic. It's. Her A fucking shirt, so you would rather one of those like ridiculously stupid looking Oregon uniforms. GimMe Tennessee Jimmy. Lsu Gimme some. Alabama's plane and this is classic. Because we we, we claimed twenty nine national titles. We won twelve. Oh, I know it's not classic. Only. The helmets, the colored first of all like. That's like me. Go onto to come into the high school reunion. Ugly wife and I say Oh look at his wife Oh. Yes, he's classic Oh. She's not she's ugly. Will did your ugly wife win a billion? National Championships because then it does change the conversation a little bit. If you haven't ugly wife, who hasn't done shit in her life then. Yeah, if you ugly, who's won a whole bunch, it does make her more attractive. They're trophies. Don't make the jerseys look good. Yes, they do. It's like Michigan so that's classic Kelvin their helmets ugly. Why don't people tell them that? It's subconscious brandon. Yes, it does when you are. You are more attractive when you are successful. Alabama's uniforms are more attractive because they're successful and I would rather the plane classic look. From teams like that because I like I, say this about organ all the time like I love the day. Have all the money in the world. Good for you. A lot of their uniforms look like shit. I love to be organ because you get all the Nike Money I totally get that, but there's high school in Mississippi, got Louis School they were read. Were playing Red Jerseys Red Helmets and ripped pants. Look just like Alabama. Don't you stay new? Alabama you can never if anybody says what's the best uniform if you say Penn State Alabama just lying. That's what you're doing. You're lying sack best although I disagree with you completely on Michigan again. Classic colors. No, you don't like using helmets. And I'm going to say something and I've said this before I'm going to say it again. It pains me, but it's true. The University of Texas uniforms are great. especially, their home color more anymore questions Jack. Also by the way, an black uniforms far away, anything much to be states, everyone only like our black uniforms that we also got from Adidas the same companies supplies. fucking uniform I'm looking at the uniforms right now. They are the exact same. Meets stripes on their shoulder pads or more on the bottom in Texas A. M's are on the top order comes on. The top is top is always better. One to the logo is just better. It's just a fact. Jan Look. Mississippi State two thousand sixteen uniform because I am. This case it's a black uniform, the same ones you wear, it's a Mississippi State Mississippi state do matte black helmet. Casey. We have the same company that supplies us with the same color stuff. I do know that I'm just really nitpicking here to try to one up you, we can. Literally you'll wear Mississippi state here and I'll wear a deer in the office. Literally match like Adidas boosted both of us have literally no difference, no difference, not even a logo different so mice. So my sense, you Texas Stadium sweatpants and they had to air, so I took him right remember. You gave me those two excellent chance. Mississippi state stuff nobody knows. Nobody knows the colors are the exact same loss. I'm they're afraid of Texas A M's all like Maroon Jerseys. From a twenty seventeen Mississippi state game, they may be the ugliest jerseys of. I'm not like Maroon like head to tell. I'm not a fan of that I know. But then there's Iowa two more. This one came in from a bunch for some reason. I'm seeing a lot of Miami fans on twitter. Recently, they're very. Great me at drastic drastic. Jodi do y'all think canes of Y'all think the canes New Year's Day bowl with their schedules awful English by him I. Think he's asking him. They make near stable. No I am saint is. Sure? Don't know no I really. Don't buy am we'll look. Last year. Almost every single one of their losses was by less than touched him. I just never get into close losses as a predictor of future success. I mean they still lost against by. Let's say they open with temple the. Bay. They're going to be four. They're going to be three. Let's play the hand game again. Game so star three. It's Temple Wagner. You may be okay. At Michigan, state. I think I'M GONNA. Give them an Alabama to give it to Michigan state kind of a dumpster fire maybe. Miami was on survivor too I'm. Has Derek Kings give the acting that. Yeah in Michigan State. Again home I picked to be Miami I think piddle beat Miami, so we're at four. No Miami would form. Though in that one. You have thumb. Yeah. No, this one's the loss. North Carolina at Miami. It's bird so much. I know North Carolina Miami. Loss Miami average India. Went Tear King Wen. Sort seven wins. One nine eight or nine games. Maybe I doesn't get you to New York six. Eight wentz get him to near sixty nine months, could but. Also lose it goes six and six ago. Averaging UTECH Virginia Florida State at home at Georgia Tech Duke at home. I think be pretty good. I think it'd be okay. It's just a Lotta Okay and then ACC. They. Do Play Georgia Tech, and we know Jackson very high on Georgia. Tech, a non lie under tech I think they're like sixty to seventieth ranked team. They're not going to be an easy out on the road in November when you came out for a game against Clemson talking about and then you. Have you ever seen a few weekends like talk about a letdown game last question. Dear King is the factor there by the way I mean, he could come in and be a heisman trophy over could go. Get. My my inclination was no, but the more we talk about it. I mean they could. If I had to put money on it I would say now. that. You said you had to morning. Read one question. Is I'm looking for another one, but I can't. Like that. Oh. This was the one that I. I skipped, but this is what I wanted such a lot. We don't talk about them a lot, but not. Nick Irvine Obviously, we don't talk about Nick Urban, this random guy, but at beaver rugby twenty four is Mario Cristobal coach or the product of Taiko players. Playing together for a few years is so we can just talk about as Meyer Cristobal good coach. Would you put them in top twenty? Top Ten I would not I don't think we have. Coach yet okay. I don't think that he's a bad coach, but I definitely wouldn't put them anywhere near the time. I think he had a playoff team last year and didn't get them to the playoffs. That's say yes so. quarterback in a playoff difference any found a way not to go to the playoffs with an easy schedule. And in. In in, easier conference. Ansi, but I mean I I'd say TVD on him. I don't think he's a bad coach, but I think it's a little too early to say that he's a good or great coach. We could be a bad coach I. Don't think you. You definitely can't say he's a good coach okay. That's that's it? That's the questions next week. We're going dive into twenty twenty six, as we start turning the calendar over towards screaming headlong into the twenty twenty season, which will happen Ana very excited about that anything else, Casey. No. I didn't really expect to yell at you as much as I did today. you know it felt really good was my Mississippi State, cowbell take last week. And here I claimed your team this week and said they were going to be good. I I still am very torn. My heart is torn if I should be mad at you for trying to claim my school or happy that you have more hope than I do. Mind Walker. Pitcher.

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Off The Record: The Junbi Expansion + Kicking Mushrooms (Just The Boyz)

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Off The Record: The Junbi Expansion + Kicking Mushrooms (Just The Boyz)

"We need three two on action guys. Welcome back to what we're talking about what we want instead. We're going to talk about june. Be the baby you happen to be. We're going shut down. Every i do have to give a big shoutout to our fan base out there who are supporting us during these hard times. Coming into our shops purchasing are march. Because thanks to y'all buying things online we were able to survive the twenty hard times man. Yes for those guys who might be new to it. All junius me. Joe casey to like a bunch of our david a bunch of our friends invested into a bunch of food groups giambi's one of them and our goal is to bring high quality macho to the masses and make it affordable and we do have to shops. You guys always use post about one in west. La in the one and city of industry of rowland heights and our goal this year before the whole like crazy. Pandemic and shutdown was to build franchises. And a lot of you guys have inquired about it. Which is why we have the to shopping. New jersey. One is i mean. We're we're gonna make several but one is opening up around february one in new jersey. I visited in. It's fucking huge. And we have a couple opened up and texas. And i think people are always asking where the next one is and then so we have quite a few inquiries and toronto so slowly popping up here in tehran iran tehran with for iran's but we have you know one couple increase in toronto. Has i think it'd be really cool. I mean i feel like. I'm too busy now but if i could once i moved into vegas i would love to open one and vegas. Yeah same here. I think that vegas is going to be a no brainer. You remember that one spot like in downtown summerlin like that. Just that place just looks like a place. I'd be perfect for june be. That's the spot. It's like this big shopping center. That's like modern. All the new stores lululemon or apple and it. Just it feels like you know pasadena. Yeah it just feels like a pretty chill place. It's brand new and doesn't look rent's too expensive. I think it'd be popping. Yeah we got really lucky during this year because a lot of her friends who like own restaurants and stuff like that they don't have an online are as so When we had to shut down earlier because of you know like lockdown rules those two three months. You know we weren't getting any we're just not open but the way that we were able to survive is the online like sales were able to pay rent through that and and keep some of our staff on and i think that really was important because people that didn't have like a website or whatever that they can sell stuff online or do online orders or whatever they they really lost out on that rant and lost staff plus think it's dope especially for jimmy because a lot of our with the fan base with an eventually in the commute that they are they grow so people that are walking by year but the rest of the people online wouldn't get a trial unless they come on here is that are the people that are opening up. These giambi's are actually are fans like we haven't had any people yet. That don't know who we are so first of all they're kind of like minded because they already like our content and usually people that watch. Jk news or whatever there already are similar personality like they like the same kind of comedy lifestyle. Whatever so it just molds really easily dislike our our first east coast franchise josh. The mushroom king like we became like legit friends from this whole process because he or been watching jaiqi news for so long inherit. He likes like who we are as people all small world. It is joe's mushroom partner josh. He gets coached by stan. Stan is our head trainer at barbell. This is crazy. The ecosystem isn't this cool. It was really cool. It is and we all have mutual friends. And it's so weird. And just when i went to go visit him right. I met this other dude on another film set and he lives like a couple blocks away. Grew up next to the farm. And it's so weird out like it all. It's all connected when you go to the mushroom farm. Is it like a row of mushrooms. Growth like we or corn or not. They're all hoop houses. Like greenhouses inoculation right like inoculated wood and stuff or so. It's all above ground like it's kind of like In these hoop houses like they have like the shelves and in all of these logs are on the shelves. So that means in the same amount of space you can technically really maximize space and grow a ton of mushroom. Yeah it doesn't require that much so there's very low like impact on the echo. Yeah you don't toss up the dirt. You don't destroy environment. it takes very low acreage. so it's like a really good business. What about the mushrooms. If do the poor's like if you don't seal the doors through the pores accidentally go outside and now there's mushrooms all over the outside you know because it has to be climate control like day. It's difficult for them to grow. Like on the dirt. Yeah they have to favorite which fairer. Yeah they need dead wood so much the will the she talk in the ones that we have voiced an whatever they they grow in deadwood so in the natural like yeah there to kind of like metabolize that would that's kind of dying and shit like the knock relation like my celia that's just like an internet underground so they can like just be scored their toll it perfect weather conditions so you can take advantage of spillover with like Dead wood chips and there's like rain or mist whatever and then just next day. It'll be mushrooms everywhere. Yup that's great. I remember when i was a kid and then like let's say rain in the next day on the back gardeners mushrooms and then i would take it in and my mom look. It does not know why my mom was mushrooms. Poisonous to wash your hands. They probably were surprised. You didn't on them. Because i can't run out and kick the shit out of these restrooms. It was like the same thing with danny lyons. I saw him as a kid. You might pick it or blow it. Now it's the became a fun thing to kick off you've kicked. Sheriff just played with this first. Dan the line literally last week because he was like looking at flowers walking around and then he's like what's that one in on mike Before i could tell him to be gentle he went and grabbed it and as soon as he pulled it with all started blowing and teach them how to and making flash grabs him and he just moves so fast amount of blush. Blow blow bart's birthday. He brought his candles. And this was with the softest blow to does. He built up not blowing up handle like there's three candles. Yes the blow like six times. That's fucking hilarious. Dude so funny yeah you know what's crazy is hopefully this farm that were trying to buy and central coast goes through and then what we wanna do is Do some type of like cap system so like people could come visit. And it's like a perfect like social distancing farm tour thing like you can come in and like like learn about mushrooms and whatever but there's a place to park your rv's hook it up and hanging out and all that stuff it so you guys could come in and like camp there we can just hang out and do that cool. How come you guys chose central coast versus like i dunno like Utah or nevada or any other like or san diego. It's all about whether climate so like right now where he's at in new jersey during the summer. It's way too hot so the mushrooms don't really grow so he doesn't. He can't sell enough right and so he looked at all the different perfect places in america to open up a farm. And it's the central coast 'cause usually if you want a farm in fresno or central valley land is cheap. You want to buy land around santa barbara. It's hell expense right but it's mainly for the temperature year round. I think the even like the guy has cost david's rogan. I think he was from. He was studying My college mushrooms out of santa barbara. They can't replace to school for that just because the temperature also unlike climate. Yeah but it's it's it's the weather is nice. Do we were there during the summer. And we were just chilling like had. Is it seventy all year brown. They pretty much. Jonathan mediterranean weather. Yup but you know like we massive loans when it comes to getting farms and stuff like that we all. We also have to make sure we don't have debt when you're putting down a down payment and all that and good thing. Today's video is brought to you by upstart. Yeah if you're trying to move up in life and you want to get a house or you want to get a car or you just want to get loans to expand to business. You need to have all your finances in order which is why we love upstart. 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And there's just kind of organically grew or did have a giant like vision. No so he is actually. He went to school and graduated in finance or something like that and he was he was he was into banking like all like that. Wall street world. Yeah i think he did mergers and acquisitions or like buying and selling businesses and stuff like that and that life was just crazy and not his style in and just you know it just felt empty to him and you know. He grew up on this farm. His dad started in the ninety s or something like that and when he decided to kind of help them out with the accounting he realized that his dad was losing like fifty grand a year every year. So he's like how's he surviving so out of just like rescuing the family. He was helping out the farm and then with his more like business. Yeah like investing mind. He brought those like high level banking. Like like it's like a business way of thinking to farming and so with that he was able to just cut all the losses and make more gains and he just kept tweaking it and then he turned it into a million dollar farm. That's like breaking bad. Where took the chemistry aspect to make you meth. He's picking mushrooms us. Yeah and so. After that he got to a point where he's like. I want to try something different. And he would. He was thinking about opening up a boba shop and he heard on. Jk news that we were like. Yeah we're gonna franchise june be so he's like oh shit will already like the jk guys. And i think he came and visited bell and so he visited giambi out by ucla and he was like man. This is a really cool concept. So that's when he hit up. Jeremy and they started talking and so at the point when things got serious and when he was really like getting ready to sign the franchise. That's when i was like let me let me check this guy out and see if he's like right for us because we care about like the people were more than like if you have enough money to be a franchisee and then i talked to him on the phone and i was like. Oh yeah. this guy's cool man. I like them. And i invited him over. We're hanging out at my place and in like you came over for dinner like we all got to know each other. We went camping all that stuff and he was like man. I always wanted to do something where we get this into the homes of people. And he's like. I think about like a mushroom kit or something. And i'm like gallic chia penn like let's do that and i brought over my buddy alex and then for the e commerce side and that's how we kind of invented that and then he's always wanted to come out to the west coast but he didn't have the support and in now with us. He feels more confident because once he gets up and going you know like he's going to have us because he knew that he would have to do. West coast any ways to make things cheaper and for expansion because a the twenty four seven able to grow mushrooms yet. And he's he's in whole foods and stuff and the east coast so kurt. Yeah if he's already got those clients. It's pretty easy for him to go to host foods in the west coast. It's just that his truck stole make it out here they do but it won't be fresh anymore so it makes more sense to open up a farm. You just didn't want to be lonely so for like i guess with now with our support and us that's going to we're going to help him out with everything he doesn't feel like you'll be coming out here by himself. So it all kind of evolved because of that reason. I'm sure everyone always asks about. What about like psychedelic muscles. And there's another states that are allowing it now is that something is all arado going into. Well we looked at the economics even with weed and all that stuff. Yeah and it is lucrative in the beginning. But we feel that it's going to be saturated and other bigger companies are going to come in and take it out so it's a lot of money to like get it going same with marijuana right. Like there's a lot of farms right now that are popping up and there's people that are putting in like twenty thirty million dollars there several already in operation. But there's only so many people that are smoking weed or eating we'd or whatever right and the farmers in california alone can supply not only the rest of the country but like a lot of different countries outside of america so it's gonna be over saturated with competition that has way more millions than we do so because of those reasons it. It's not something that you want to get into because someone else just come in and take over and the risks too high like the once you get into that world now you risk your legitimate so for example. We have an account with whole foods right. So if they find out that we're selling psychedelics. They might say all sorry. We don't wanna be with that kind of branding now. Something that we even faced to in the gym world. Where like you know before. There's all is just commercial like la fitness twenty four hour and then when like more like the warehouse hardcore jim started popping up like us like some of our friends. We opened up. We're all cool. Seems like a safe space. And then i think once the big jim start seeing that and then you start seeing like the big. Jim start having a straight up like cross fit type setup like we were kind of scared a little. Oh fuck because these guys got money. Those those people that are like don't slough don't do this. Don't use chalk don't like don't do this. And then the rise of this through us. They're like fuck. Let's do it overnight. I would see la fitness and they just like took out thirty treadmills and now this is the hardcore section. And then i was like oh fuck but the good thing is i think like community and culture. You can't buy that. You know like for people to really care about the members. And i think that's what really kept people going up. That didn't last long way. They do have the equipment but they just don't have the community a lot of set it up for all also in a good way because we don't lose out to them but like say And other places where people want to the stuff that we do the couldn't because of that so that's why the smart on them but if we ever opened up those densely populated areas would take all their business from all of the gym that fake having those spots like from the commercial ones though all come to us even looked up like in vegas. We actually have a huge fan base and vegas like a lot of orders. Come from vegas. It would make sense possible. Hey as possible. Not for sure in the first year or two. Yeah but maybe in five. Maybe i was super six. I'll be really cool. If we get a giambi there. And i'll be crazy homemade because it's it's cool because it's a way for us to access our viewers face to face and they get a piece of like what we've created and it's like a community that we can just create a web all over the world and it just gives me an excuse to do meet and greets like hopefully we can start doing like cool like we could find a way to do meet-and-greet like i was even thinking about like doing a plexiglass situation. People could come through and we can say what's up and then that's the way i can meet a lot of people without risking anything. Yeah sprayed down with the water joel. Douse violate a whole. Can of virtual joe like through a screen the projection. Here on that sucks.

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 4

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 4

"That's right guys. This is where you know, where the show of the people's that we are with the people. And when you come up to listen, you tell us, hey, you're a fan of the show. We were we give you props them and give your shot. I don't hear. Who'd you can run across Travis. I got to I ran into my old friend, Jack Rita sweat and seen in twenty years. He listens every single day. So shout out to Jack revisit and he had a guy with them named Arthur Wilkie as well who listens to us every single morning. So shout out to Jack and orphan. What about you? I was in Houston of this weekend for work. Don't tell don't tell me stretch that far. Listen, I went to restaurant called boss cat has about two hundred and three hundred different kinds of bourbons model around the world in general manager is originally from Los Angeles area. He saw me there came up was repeating soundbites drops and says he still listens to us a shutout to the general or at boss can by the way. Thank you very much recommending the deep fried, Meatloaf. He was delicious. All right depressed. Deep fry me 'love Keyshawn shoutout to a number of people vacation. So a name helps. That's why a number of people. I can't remember all the people. It was so many people that was no that's not true. It's so many people from the southern California area, but it was peop- families from Chicago that actually listened to us an awful lot. Love Travis think that the idea of bringing Travis was a home run. Love me, a bunch of interesting questions about l z. Oh, interesting. Interesting. These behavior, and they just, you know, they love kids everything it was probably on my vacation. I'll probably ran into at least forty different people all the way around that listen to our show. All right. So I'll give it shot out to Dimitrius and Kevin at little barbecue with them as today Dylan's. And so they're big fans of the show in the always ask questions about all you guys. It's always interest. Would he got Chris out on the Graham Isaac Medina thirty two when I posted my pink I post on Saturday. These drops thanks to on anyone. You came and got us on Germany. He wrote get it out of customs. They said pointing to when we did the customs been on Friday. Picked up on that bed. To get that water out of customs, or did you meet anybody? Yeah. James from the parts department at the Harley Davidson in Pomona valley. Hey, he was helping me in my part Davis. He was helping you with your parts for my. The game. That's like a new two thousand five hundred. It's not the real Harleys. The the team Nino. Have you seen this plan? It's like a Linda looking thing. I mean, real talk though, I thought you were kind of small to handle Harley now, man. Those things are expensive they're pricey. They're big and strong. You know, what else is big and strong? Good. It's time for cheese headline. These headline. This morning is presented by sprint. Cocco doodle do to you. Yes. Snakes are in the world there in the plains water. They're all over. It's a snake draft. So a Lawrence kitschy said Braham use python baton was found in the Florida Everglades. I don't know why you would be hanging around the Florida Everglades. But it's seventeen foot long python. Dangling a carrot weight at one hundred and forty pounds and contained Seventy-three developing eggs, so make seventy three more pythons, but seventeen footer. Wondering forty pounds. So a lot of typed on eggs. And it's the snake. The snake is the largest python ever removed from the big cypress national reserve is this nickname, Malcolm or something seventy two seven hundred twenty nine thousand acre. Swap Lynn west of Miami south in south Florida. I said kill the snake over they just capturing not they captured in probably returning back into wildlife. Right. Where do you own? You can't just throw it around Everglades around where you snake that it's going to hurt. So they're not supposed to be there to begin with. You know, what happened right know, what you're going to let go for the people who thought we could have a snake as a pet, right? We're have having for a pet, and they're gonna get tired of it. They just let it go onto the while. The problem is is that it's not as natural habitat. So these pythons been eaten up all the animals that aren't prepared for an doesn't have a predator. And it does never prayed on natural predator. You're listening to k p in Los Angeles. Glades are lousy with python. There might be a thirty footer out there. Just wait for you to make wrong moves. Find it book. A hundred and forty pounds snake now? Good. You can touch. I could touch it eggs seventy three story in front of you in your jerks three. So what's going to happen? I Travers Florida just going to sink because global warming. Or is it going to eaten by giant snakes? I. Thai. Feels like yes, I'm not I'm not terrified of snakes Pero need those out there. That's too much. Maybe like fifteen foot or you've been all right? But as it was actually where I live. There are a lot of rattlesnakes, right? It's southern California rows things are everywhere. Right. But my house is is it butts up against an sire. Right. So there's there's a lot of rattlesn- wildlife wildlife, you I'm okay with that. I understand that because they're gonna mind their own business. I'm gonna mind my own business. We're not going to run a new more than one hundred and forty pounds snake? I don't need that in my life is hungry. Just calling checking things out. I want to actually cut it open. What they were fine people. Me. Maybe cows cow's never know. That's crazy. Dodgers win last night. They sweep the Rockies and and to excuse me eight and two on the season through their first ten games twelve to six last night. And they're hitting home runs. Hit two more last night. Max months, he had a homerun Cody Bellinger, how to homerun Boehner's got seven on the season leads the major league early MVP candidate early MVP candidate for sure dodgers been home run in all ten of their games key. They're close the record to start a season with a home run in every game is fourteen. So the dodgers are closing in on. They are closing in on it. And the dodgers are extremely hot. Like the temperatures here in southern California. The dodgers now eight and two second best record in the mail, which is the major leagues. Raj. Twelve runs on twelve hits ten walks against four strikeouts. The dodgers scored a whopping wabi Guoping without eighty four runs through ten games. That's an eight point four average. If I'm doing the math right that. Leads the majors. Also. But our guy Cody Bellinger three he was three for four with the walk a double and a Homer. What did he miss out on to get the cycle triple triple? That's right. He missed Donald triple his seventh of the year. Was the Homer he's on pace to hit one hundred thirteen dogs. Why are you laughing in two hundred ninety two Rigby emphasize that we're because if final say it'll be your dog. That's what it is the dodgers. Salim insure Williams. Didn't look particularly great. No he didn't last night. But there is a fantastic story on ESPN dot com. Molly revere Riviera who actually interview. Or is before the game. He should read. If get an opportunity to is is nights insight about the Johnny's been through from nineteen to last night. The way keys Oregon is morning. Brought to you by Tommy snakeskin. I patch for all your snakeskin. I Pat supplies. Visit tommy's. That's right. And you know, all those stats that Keyshawn did say from Tommy snakeskin eyepatches those stats in numbers. Both BUSTER only had something to say about these numbers their offensive numbers. So far they have twenty four homers, which is the most the nationally gets second baseball behind. Seattle's the Mariners have twenty-seven. They have a team batting average of three zero seven. They have a team on base percentage of four zero three and they haven't Opie S team Opie s of nine ninety one. So far this season. They've outscored their Ponant eighty four to forty eight a run differential of plus thirty six after ten games. I went into the air not really knowing how to sort of look at the National League. And I walked away from this week and saying there's no question. The dodgers are the best team head and shoulders in the nationally. Well, the problem is is not that they haven't been the best team head shoulders in the National League for quite some time is finishing the deal. Just finish into deal. Yeah. We also have need to give shutout to kenley Jansen who went to Denver pitched and came out healthy. Yeah. And everything's great. He's lost thirty pounds during the off season that may have contributed to it. Obviously, the off-season surgery also helped, but it's just nice to see him go in that stadium pitch and not having the incident. All those numbers that BUSTER only was talking about right there. There is nearly a thousand is a team they're eight and two team. They're batting over three hundred as a team they're run differential through the first two weeks of the season is plus thirty six which is insane. All these things they're they're hot this. I want everybody to just take a snapshot of this moment. And this is what this team is when it's hot because they play the way they play there's going to be a ten game stretch where they're not hot while I can outta time happening. But this is what it is. This is how they're going to go and it works. It's gotten in the World Series two years in a row. All I'm all in on this. I think. Is a really good team. If the bullpen is right. They got tons of starting pitching the back into the bullpen. I think is pretty good too. But there's going to be some ebbs and flows in this. And it doesn't mean that you have to change it. It just means you kinda have to ride the wave when it's here. And right now, they're at the top of the wave. When they when they were in winter meetings, and they came out of winter meetings in into spring training with no major acquisitions I felt just like I felt a year ago, they obviously know their team and they're off to better than we do. And you know, they're going to have some they're going to have some issues, you know, at some point in time where they're going to have to probably make another midseason type trade or whatever the case is. But right now, you can't complain with the make up of what it is right now, if they're at all I mean, it just it's unbelievable situation that they are in again you also easy. You know, what they said this during the broadcast last night the dodgers have four guys are let me rephrase that they're missing four guys from last year's team that hit twenty five or more home runs. Four guys are gone, and they're still doing we Puig grand all Kemp Randolph and Manny Machado. Matana? We don't can't fire with us. Did he know the dodgers, but he hit a home run guy? Was like four knows more nat- you straight lost over one hundred home runs from those four guys. And they've missed a beat. That's amazing. And some of the bigger guide liked Justin Turner and Cory Seager are hitting but they're not hitting a bunch of home runs and they're St. they've had ten guys at home runs. So far this year. I mean, the home runs are all fine and dandy. Big bull. I'm Bill if there's any reason to give pause to what you're talking about in terms of you know, the street they're ruined right now is middle relief. I think that hasn't been very impressive. And I'm not just talking about Joe Joe. My. Our mulligan that all day long. He'll be dot com. We've given up quite a few runs. We had a great run differential. But if you just look at the run scored against us. It's a little nervous because we're not always going to be able to hit our way out of it. We're going to need to shut guys down and event that we only able to score three or four runs. And when that happens, you need to know that you're pitching is going to be to keep the other team at bay so far as far as I'm concerned Travis that hasn't been the case there the runs against for the dodgers. So far this season is forty eight. So they're giving up just a shade under five runs a game. That's nah. That's okay. The game. Yeah. Yeah. Five. Where it's not great. But it's not terrible either in the way that they hit. And I hear what you're saying that they're going to be days where you're not gonna hit home runs. You're going to score to I suppose, you're given up five then you lose what you're not going to get. You're not going to get to very often with the way this guy. Swing the bat. This is this is a forty eight. You look at it. I mean of the teams in their division the right in the middle the teams in the National League, they're right in the middle. They haven't given up more runs on average than than everybody else. They're writing they're not the best. They're not the worst there in the middle way. They play offense. They're going to be. All right. I don't want to be the middle. We're trying to win a chip. We're not we're not gonna give middle before you get to the end. We're not gonna come up. We're supposed to be the dominant side. Keep in mind dodgers are eight and to score. And all these runs into your point z about the pitching they've done. Couldn't kershaw's thrown a pitch Richhill. Hasn't thrown a pitch. These are two very very good majorly pitchers named and gotten on the field. Speaking of Clayton Kershaw to dodgers ace at three times Cy Young award winner. Clayton Kershaw is in his second injury rehab start. This season is reportedly going to pitch the tosa drillers. He's gonna pitch for the drillers. Yeah. Driller it's their double eighteen. So w we went down to pitch for the Tulsa drillers against spring, Jordan. Jordan's on Tuesday night at one oak. Wait, what's going on one? Okay. Feel okay. One oak. And the reason he went to become the reason he went to double as expected to be around eighty degrees in a triple A. It's a place where it's going to be around sixty. So they wanted him in warm weather just to keep them loose and went along with that he's expected to join the team rotation Sunday. So I guess he'll pitch he'll come with us. And then he'll join the team on Sunday. So he'll be back. According to a suit, assuming his stint with the drillers goes west the drillers. Yeah, he Schantz organ this morning also made possible by get your shine on curl activator. Give them the visit and see how it goes. Sponsors that doesn't sound real. They don't even say, nolaac, all Raj dot com. What is it? Call. Now. It's not clear chicken no-one said. No, no. I don't know anybody who in the hell even wear curl these days. Well, do we still do we still do? What part of the country, you know, where where midwest south. I don't think we do crows anymore pull ups, and criminality this. I was in Atlanta. They still Walgreens somebody man. Tonio Brown is Antonio Browning again despite a Willie ever change. We'll tell you next. I'm not gonna say it. Jackie Chan Jackie Chan bay for Jackie Chan's, sixty five down the tunes. This is Jackie Chan in Kim. He Seon Jackie Chan sings it's called endless love. You're he saying. Now. Checky hits he got hits. I mean there are over there. But they're hits his birthday is he check four-legged Roper Newport Beach off the Seventy-three towards the Sieben over Newport Beach dot com. Land Rover above M beyond. Do you think he would have bought this? If it wasn't Jackie. Listen to this type of music, tell me, this is Casey a gel gel over that. No. James and Tina Marie. May. See I saw him a Knight rider in concert, David Hasselhoff, this why we actors who see reactors in Germany. He is the man I saw him in Monaco years ago with good. I didn't know what I was listening to the because I was invited. I was with people, and they were thinking is cool before after you met Bano. This was going to be after after. Yes, it was after speaking of actors Hussein happy birthday Russell Crowe fifty-five Russell Crowe sings to unfortunately, he is recorded singing the ban miserable. Remember starring Jack. Yeah, he played. He's not a song and dance. Man. He can't see right. Most offensive thing I've ever seen therefore the song part of song and dance is out. It's certainly should have been housi-. He played in a band before he did acting, actually. He thought. Abandon be playing guitar. I knew he was in China. The base guitar the regular regular. Okay. And then he. Raj plays the bass like the George has deep. Russell Crowe nor. Hey, Joe where are you? Keep doing this doing what? Why are you doing over there? Joe? Joe Joe featuring Russell Crowe I'm trying to turn it off. And by the way on Raja's Instagram Twitter. We just posted it behind the scenes video of g shot. Joe Joe, and we'll have another one coming later with serenading be Travis cut out my. I look good. And you miss the in Travis I really made sure that show. I would just get a pregnancy. It's a lot going on right now cheese got his phone turn it off. Everybody's talking. I'm trying to maybe play. Jackie channing. You see? That is crucial to bang Rudy go bear day. Didn't he bought a mile bang on defensive player of the year? No, you can't try sure I kill. You can't get high pay off the team moving along. People are. So and people are listening. See your calves Marcellus. He has a godless dead. I blew small caps. It's a good theory. It is it's a really good theory is yeah, he laid that on me one time. And I I realized I hadn't either. You guys had that show for so long. Good. Dangling is a carrot to pay off the tees, please. Sometimes I just get. Just get discouraged. Sometimes key. It's you know, realize that what I'm in for Antonio Brown and juju Smith Schuster juju was named the team's MVP. The Steelers tweeted out a picture of him and congratulations during the needling AB. Yeah. And then Antonio Brown went on Twitter and took a shot at juju. Sanity fumbles look at the numbers. I mean, I'll read it for you it emotion. Boy. Fumbled the whole postseason in the biggest game of the year. Everyone went blind too busy making guys famous not enough reality these days, by the way, check the list, so grammar aside he's getting after ju ju a little bit. And this is this. This is how it's going to roll, right? Antonio Brown new contract new Team New coach what doesn't matter. He's going to be Antonio Brown. No matter where he is or what? Uniforms, worn. Yeah. But you shouldn't go ju ju ju ju ju just plan e you know, they put him in position to make plays. Now. One would argue that. Ju ju is replacing Antonio Brown. He's not going to replace Antonio Brown. No. He's not as good. He's not. He's he's a good football player. Who had a great year first year second year, he's not a being east, but he's not a beat right and ABC to understand that. No that don't attack ju ju for being VP. You miss games? His satirical numbers were better than you. Always in the team voted for the team voted for him. So you know, you shouldn't you shouldn't attack him. Don't don't do him. Yeah. It doesn't make Antonio Brown. Look in this is the part. I've never understood Antonio Brown on a new team with new deal with a new opportunity in front of him. Go do it. Go play football go. You get what you you? Don't tell you that you usually get three shots. We'll get three three Deeks three days before you get three to four weeks at X teams. When you deport you don't get you. Don't get to nor do I want you to walk away with this. Everything's great. We worked out everything. I'm just glad to be in. Another plate. No, no, it's okay to get three or four exhibit to the organization or to those that you didn't get along with. But after three or four he kind of you, go bursts. He he's burn. He is up now. So when the season come he's not going to be able to because he'll live it anyway, start real crazy three or four. You get a chance to burn up the general manager once you get chance to burn up the quarterback the organization then you leave one for the season when they start losing. Then you got that Zinger form when they start losing who have I'll say I'd be able to help them. Then did you go away? But when you just continuously every week saying something about a team that you're no longer with is starting to make you look real petty. If people are starting to question, you thought processing mentality. That's was getting ready to start happening. People are going to start to wonder what the hell is really wrong with AB. You got everything you want. It. You got outta town. You got the money. Now, leave him. Oh is he's never gonna leave him alone. He doesn't have it in. This is really sad. You gotta leave. I told you three two four eight three to four. He squandered the capital that he had received when the status show who they really were as a franchise the way they talked about ban. But it's what the other players people were behind a beat because we're like, oh, hey, Bs, right? Because look at what they're saying about this. And now he's taking that capital. And he squandered it just like that. It's like, oh, well, he's still Nydia both things can be right. The students can have something wrong with it. But you also can be an idiot. And I don't mean that what happens those people go say see, this is why they got rid of this the X. Say now, it looks as if the Steelers may have made the right move. Exactly. Yeah. And that's unfortunate because he'll you weren't good favor. What you were saying key about Lookie. Get a few on the way out to get. If you get the burn, Dan when I leave the problem is is that he's not going to stop it a few. He's going to do it. What is it? Now. It's April eighth then he'll do it on may eighth. He'll do it on June eight, oh, he ain't do this. He's going to do it over and over and over again and to point at that point. It's just no wonder they ran this guy out of here. So you get the you get the initial press conference. You get the Burnham up. You get the burn them up at training camp. I mean pre pre camp like a mini campus. Someone put the mic in your face. You get the Barnum up, and then you get the burn them up in the summer, we go train a kit. And then you get one during the season. That's it. He shouldn't talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers. No, more she done deduct and heads question next heading the Hogwarts Steelers. That'd be one thing. But he took JJ. That's not cool guys pretty universally. Well liked. That's not cool. Yeah. It's pretty. Yeah. It is he's university. Well, like, would you also is not innocent because he did publicly backed being when? ABC? We see it. Yeah. But he's still very has tobacco. But you don't have to say anything at all. Just stay out of it by not saying anything at all is interesting acid. Because he's trying to which you try to do is make sure you get the football kit. It right. I get it. But if you stay out of your name's not mentioned. All right. So why do wide receivers act the way they do? That's coming up next. Yes. You don't seem to be as fired up about this. This is just cool. Not as fine up. You just gotta let it roll. This is still one of the greatest living colored pits ever. You. Missing. This is the most this is here. There's a lot of babies was made to this, man. I'm just being honest with you if you was born if he was born ninety. Oh, GOP you back in the black community offer. Sure. Percents. Sir. We plan is now we might be starting to population. Boom all over again. That's why they had to get rid of that the soul or beat eight. Had to get rid of much much. They like, wait a minute later. They infiltrate the coming out. So what did they replace it with? Each. Pipe. I gotta go this much from me girl you've been lookout. Jan he got fired up on some ninety zombie. Senior for any. Happy birthday trouble. Gee, I know it took them three years for details. You can do this. Panics? It's not just as jagged is. Joe Joe Casey is is is keep sweat. It's well put. Okay. But it's it's bad advice. Yeah. Come on. I mean back then was out of babies being made with him to Burke back then. All righty. So we're talking about Antonio Brown in back. He has done yet. Sorry. Did he's still going. I think in tune LeBron's is one of those guys it's going to go no matter what whether he's playing well, whether he's playing poorly whether he's on a good team or a bad team. I don't think he's ever going to change. Well, why this right? Why does it seem to be like, for instance? I don't want to say never but tight ends. Don't do this kind of stuff, but running the axe to do kind of stuff tidies goofy. What about running backs running backs? Typically, don't get involved in this running backs not isolated out on the island by themselves. Why receivers are broken down point guards? That's what they are there guys that have a certain swag. They just it's it's in the DNA you depend on ten others to help you be successful at the position meaning offense align running backs to tidy in quarterback. Nate other receivers you're out there. All by yourself. So it takes a certain type of personality to be able to play that position. The success? More only hear about who. Reggie was elected. He was extremely quiet now Reggie Wayne was quiet in Indianapolis. You can't get loud there. He went quite university of 'em. If Teo was it in Indianapolis. He we don't hear from them. No you hear from him because he's a good player. But you don't focus in on it as much C. Deaf old L had started out in Cleveland versus New York. It'd be always just receiver that it took Chad Johnson to take yellow jackets and really do some things for you to really focus in on him. It was like, okay. He's something's wrong with him because he put the yellow jacket. He would do something every single day when I came into the league. There was cry Michael Irvin. They drill rise in they had a certain swag about themselves. But then once I wrote the book, I kind of took it to another level it became more about the individuality like basketball from a promotional standpoint. Unlike in football, they it's teen teen teen I stepped away from that. And said, okay, I'm gonna ball. But I'm still I'm going to make sure I get mine individually. I get that if from there, it kind of grew it took a took some legs of his own, and it just became why why out of that position? Jack, you gotta have the individuality of I'm outta by myself countenance got to sell it got a certain swag and a certain confidence in again, tiny, goofy goofy. I mean, come on, the beer, kegs and all types. Lymon Lymon or just liming. They're just good online. And this is what they do. They go to work quarterbacks a corporate. That's why they uncomfortable with a guy they comfortable we Cam Newton because he's not corporate. He's not go shake the hand like that. He they're comfortable yogurt commercials. That's pretty corporate. Yeah. But his commercials swag and flee. It's not like the old. Here's yogurt here. Good to eat here. Tyson yogurt. Yeah. No. It's not no there is this theory. Maybe Antonio Brown just isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer that maybe it's not a position or an athlete or an age or stardom thing that maybe this one guy tweeted some stuff and because zions gone and because the NBA season is at as low point. There's no other football. It's a new story because he's a name. And he gives us something to talk about that maybe design is still playing and he's in a championship game. We don't even pay attention to this tweets even begin with it could simply. Be the perfect storm between there's a gaping. There's a gaping hole right now. Media coverage sports that needs to be filled. An AB gave us some stuff. And it's just happened to be a guy who's not that awful Sansom dumb stuff on Twitter, and we're we're gravitated towards because we gotta talked about something. He he says enough stuff though, that's on point that when he says, the dump stuff, you're still paying attention. You know, when he's critical of the Steelers in the fact that Ben was running the show. The fact that Ed when he was like, that's what that's what I'm saying. Right. That he was right about that. So when you when you're let you leave that alone at that point. I I've already stamped it. Boom, y'all see what it is magic without the validated. That so now let me just step back. That's smart person. Does I'm a step back. And I'm gonna let five my battle for me yet. But that's what nails these theory starts to shine through. And that is that he's not he's not sophisticated enough to realize. Okay. I wanted I'm gonna shut up now. But you really you really understand when I tried to explain the about the universities in the makeup. So. That makes sense. Like the matrix Travis. The matrix is perfect. Why'd you may two and three money. All right championship game. Tonight. College basketball Virginia's there should they be? That's coming up next. It's saying Casey. And Joe Joe, but I'm sure some babies were made here too. Did you see the sort? I did not so Jason aldean. I believe won the lifetime award the word. He's like thirty some years ago. If that's lifetime achievement. We don't run out of stuff like Jason aldean story artist of the decade the decade. Like ten years. Yes. It is. Yeah. Oh, no. It is the definition of decade. I don't know the tennis with already Wayne. I think her decade was better than his right? If you got compare decades throw shade of Jason L dean chase it. I mean, he's straight. But. Who's this? This is Jason aldean. Is he trying to? He's chilling on a dirt road. Knock came playing this in my car. We played thousand times in my car. You know, what's the number one song in the country right now? No villi Ray one. No. Yeah. Well, why are you said to Billy Ray one? See you soon as the dude if you wanted to say, it'd be made it a hit. No it was. Here. He was already a hit. I started. It was already a hit. And then y'all got mad and took it off the charts. That's the number one country or number one pop. I think it's a moment. Pop got pops. How you feel about that? Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't terrible. But all right. It's all right. So Virginia's in the championship game tonight. Oh, see against Texas Tech. Should they be are you, okay? With the way that the semifinal game went down with a a missed. Call followed by a call that a lot of people feel should not have been called it. That's one of those just swallow your whistle at the players decide at the moment. Because I I I'm going to here. I love this. I'm going to split the herald a little bit. I think it was a foul. I think that there was contact before the ball was released. What I also don't think it was so blatant and so agreed in affected the shots so dramatically that it had to be called. I'm okay that it was. But had they not learned the whistle. I would have been perfectly okay with that too. Because I don't I don't love watching. I go to the free throw one win the game the free throw line. First of all, first and foremost is incredible. Oh, it was well done him. It's the situation. The risks. The things that you have to block out in order to accomplish what he did at the free throw line two to win the game to go to championship that shouldn't be overstated or understated. That's not easy to do. No. We've seen multiple gains including the women's championship game in which miss free. Throws costs you championships. So I wanna give you know, huge that he goes down was huge. But I give him credit for that too. Just as we say, but the saints versus the Rams in the NFC championship game, a miscall or a call made in the closing seconds of the fourth quarter is part of the narrative of why you wanna loss a game. It doesn't define why you wanna lost a game. So so I don't want to sit here and say oh that cost in the game. It's like well that certainly didn't help for sure. But there were clearly other reasons why you in that position to begin with. I guess what I'm getting at. Is is that had there been no call at all? I don't think we're sitting here on Monday morning talking about how auburn's in the championship game because they got away with or not in a championship game. Right. That's what I mean. Did it had had had there been no whistle. And had that that that guy shot the ball and missed we're not sitting here on Monday morning, going Virginia got, rob. That guy got fouled in the corner. That absolutely was a call. You have to make. We're not doing that. For instance, the the Nicole Roby Coleman hit in the ram saints game that you know, you, and I are both you DRAMs fans. Yeah. Man. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Okay. They got one now. And I agree with you. It didn't determine the game it over the course of four quarters. They got one right there. This was not one of those had there been no call. We're we're looking at each other going and look Auburn got one right there. It wasn't that. It was one of those that you could have gone either way if there's no call there. Maybe we look at it once on a replay and say, maybe if you want to get you know, ticky tack about it. But. That's why I would have been one hundred percent okay with it not getting called because it wasn't a guy crashing into another guy. There was some contacted the hips that probably shouldn't have been there that was. But I don't know if it when you get in jail at the peak of your jump during a jump shot, then impacts jumper period. And if we all agree with the foul, and we all know that when you're found in that way. Like, it wasn't a foul in a sense of the Boston released, and then you slap hands to me, you could call it, but you should probably ignore that one. But if you're if the ball is still cocked on your show to basically answer rising up, and you get hit in the hip, it's going to impact your shot, especially when you're a pure shooter. Like guy was for guy is so I'm sitting here going you don't want to call the call. But the real thing is why is that young man flying into jump shooter? Like that in this in that situation because defeat was he was. The contesting the shot. I mean, maybe oh little over aggressively straight up. Yeah. He's coming from the the basket side. Always comes out on that guy. Yeah. And he screwed up. He found a guy getting ready to jump date. That's two things coaches tell you oughta time don't jump up the pass and don't follow jump shooter. Yeah. This this will be by the time. We're two Wednesday. And we'll see if we did by the way for loses tonight. We'll never mention it ever. Again, if Virginia wins tonight, we'll say, hey, they won the national championship. Because they've got a good break. They got a call that maybe maybe shouldn't have been called the got it. And then we'll never mention it again. This is not a lifetime. Hey, remember that final four where Virginia got it? Wasn't that bad? I it wasn't that bad. This is the whole idea about calls officiating. And I know this is the NFL is trying to change the way that they're going about it where you can review things. Now, there are this was the perfect microcosm Virginia. Gotta why they got away with one on a double dribble that nobody called. And then there was a foul called at the end that might have gone either way. This is sports. Sometimes you get a whistle. Sometimes you don't sometimes you get away with one. Sometimes you don't and you're going to be on the wrong. It's going to always feel like you're on the wrong side of it a lot more than you're on the right side of it. But probably pretty equal when it's all said and done. This was that those two calls did not determine that know the did not. And they what we focus in on because visually there are captivating for television and for social media, and essentially that's what this is about. This is about us focusing in on very much in the same with the NFC championship game. The vigil of it is so startling that we show it over and over again and looks as if that's the whole reason why the game transpired the way they did. And that's just not simply true and. I get the ideal of you're supposed to swallow the whistle and lead players decide as far as I'm concerned, the players did decide the young man jumped into a jump shooter. The players did decide it wasn't a call that you look at going could have gone either way. No, everybody agrees is a foul. Call everyone is not everybody. But everyone basically agrees fell called the we're debating whether or not it should have been called. But we're not debating the validity of the call. It sell. No, no. It was by the letter of the law foul. He's a foul. So it was determined by the players. I think again, I'm first of all I don't really have any rooting interest in Virginia Tech or Virginia or Auburn. I think Texas oh anywh what their defense is for what they did in. Michigan state was was real be truthful with me for a second. Are you excited to watch this tonight? Yeah. Are you reluctant you? That's before we even started the broadcast that between the women's championship game and the two men semi-final games that are hoped championship game tonight desert screw up. What was it really? Collegiate basketball weekend. The gains were all compelling. Most of them went down to the final from Michigan state. But the fact that Michigan state with tired of game at the being down by so much. And then unraveled at the end was fascinating to watch. So yeah, I washed all the guys I'm going to watch it, and I'm going to watch it because one it's the championship game. And I want to see it in two it's because there's a sense of professional obligation that I need to see it. But I'm gonna be I'm driving home played golf with Tommy on Saturday. I'm driving hauling Tommy are Tommy you guys. We're friends we're friends. And so we're that's what happens we're playing, and I call chicken with my dad on the way home hadn't talked to him in a while my dad's huge college basketball fan, and I gave what are you guys? He goes I'm watching the game. I said what game? That's how far it's Red Eye. Just had forgotten. It was on. But in all fairness to your dad into you. You didn't care about college basketball leading up to the weekend. Any no I didn't. But my point is the idea of me not being glued to the television on a Saturday afternoon to the final four. I mean that would've. Never happened. And now it it was off of my radar completely. Yeah. I was watching the Bart Houston with Gordon women's game. It will Baylor. Yeah. They went into know Yukon wins every year where we used to win every year. They don't anymore. Well, not last two seasons, and an unfortunate thing the woman the young lady who won a championship for Notre Dame last year on that runner. Yeah. That amazing jumper. She's the one that Mr. free throw yesterday would've sent the game to overtime which led to our question. What do you remember more the missed when you asked the key the question in me the question we both answered the same way. I'm going to remember the one I made not the one I missed what about you? I'm going to remember the one I missed you are. I'm that dude. Yeah. I don't remember any shot that went in. I remember everyone that missed any serve that. I miss any. Always remember the imperfections. It's this the reason why like when people say, oh, you did a good job with this only. Remember the parts like, oh, I got that one stat wrong. Oh, I did this part of that think about that's wrong. Yeah. I know you don't. You know, that you have very I. Well, I think what you're talking about too. Is the way that you go about it is the way that most great, athletes and most most people that have a great deal of success in whether it's athletics or or or anything really that. If you only remember the parts that you screwed up, you're more likely to go back and work and grind and grind and grind. So you're screw ups become fewer and farther between whereas if you can kind of live in the moment and enjoy as it happens. It's like, well that was great. I want to sit here and enjoy and not go right back into the gym and take thirty more jumpers or five hundred more free throws because I missed it. And now I don't ever want that to happen. Again. Anyone plays ball with me? No. I'm more apt to say my bad because whenever I do something wrong. It just eats at me on try for this show. I don't do any beds. If you have a bad, you'll let everybody know why you're getting more and more button on Jodi and stuff, and you really want an answer to that. Yeah. Well, do you really want? I don't want an answer. Before his the bit of the dick. Of the day that bit at the day. The bit of the day is driven by foreign Burg, Los Angeles on the sunset strip. Due to do. This is a little bit of an update I think a while ago. We talked about the rhino story coming out of South Africa. Rhino poachers were taking the horns from the Ryan. Oh, yeah. And cutting them off, and you know, the rhino killings and stuff like that was that a play by play. All time high to some degree. But anyway, a man suspected of being a rhino poacher was killed last week by an elephant to start in. I guess the elephant probably knocked him out cold or whatever the case may be right. Whatever. Well, I don't know if he stopped. He may have. Due to knock them out. He might have knocked him out cove. And in the lions finished him off. The lying is decided to pick him up and heating in the only thing they found with this particular person in in South Africa, national park was a pair khaki right khakis. His skull. Yeah. Some remains is a few remains that was it like seriously. That's why John Lee Hooker. So no shoes. Wouldn't you? Learn what allies ill. May he got some from the last dunes that went in mess around rhinos and got it like, I don't I don't understand that. I'm just I understand why you do it to make money, and it's illegal and all this other stuff. But why are you out in the wilderness in a national park with wild animals trying to do this man, you go get it? You just breathing. Trying to rob a Bank. I'm not I to me. Rob a Bank did take a chance when the elephant because these around the banking. I give him the note, they go give me the money, then just run. We should go say yourself. No, I'm saying you're not going to say, I don't know what the note would say they'll get. So you're much rather be like the do. Try to rob a Donut store the doughnuts. You're not going to rob you damn fool. If you want to rob a go, rob the Bank. You don't get the same forty years kids. If you're listening on the way to school, don't rob the doughnuts source. Regardless. Call go. Goping read. But you do know the rhino doesn't necessarily have a security system. It can't push nine one one, right? Above the dam animals. That's protected. That's the security system serious today. The bit of the bits made us all. Hornberger Los Angeles on the sunset strip brings you a bit of the day every morning to wrap official visit horned burglars. Angeles dot com and Rover above and beyond.

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Breaking Down the Ring August 21st 2019

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Breaking Down the Ring August 21st 2019

"You're listening to the podcast detroit visit w._w._w. Dot podcast troy dot com for more information this episode of breaking down the ring is brought not baijal illegal group estate planning estate planning is for everyone whether you're worth four thousand or forty million dollars estate planning can help protect you your family and your assets while you're alive and well to register for an upcoming workshops today go to shala legal dot com slash workshops or call five eight six two seven three seven one five seven again. That's challah legal dot com slash workshops or call five eight six two seven three seven seven one five seven ladies he's and gentleman. We have so much to talk about this week. Oh a w has made its announcement smitten for live weekly television. We'll talk about where that's gonna be. They're going against plus ron. Smackdown moved things a little bit further towards clash of champions which is coming up on september fifteenth which we will be at the buffalo wild wings. I am wearing a brand and new ring crew championship belt. We will get into all of that plus anthony shark bait gutierrez calling in as he is fighting in livonia. Um your michigan for an evolve wrestling contract and like i said we're gonna get into all of this and more tonight as we down. You know what all year in the last hey. This is professional wrestler professional podcast. They're called boom boom. Cabana name is killer cross scarlet foretell. What's up guys machine brian kay. Hey this is ryan from pro. Wrestling tease. Savvy are not listening to the art of wrestling but you made a decent joints because you're listening. You're listening to and you're listening and you're listening to listen the breaking down the ring breaking down the rate breaking down the ring breaking down the breaking down the ray dow. It's stanford hello ladies and gentlemen. You're listening to the most inappropriate pro wrestling show in the mother fucking y'all listening go breaking down no ring way i o ring crew smitty nick fury nick thirty z the whole f- joe oh me and me mike and mike e._m. Self ladies and gentlemen oh my god before the show started today day around seven p._m. I got it well. Actually i got about five thirty p._m. I got a text message. Got a text message from the good boys. Zebras pro wrestling in belts and may said in motherfucking belt is ready say like that. He just said your belts ready. I said what my belts ready holy shit. We weren't expecting this for another buck in week. Well we got it now so check it out set out the fucking new ring in crew championship that somebody will be wearing after all out at star cast and star cast weekend. Oh it's so fucking beautiful. There's bit pitch. There's bitches prettier than i've ever been in my life as a matter of fact it's so pretty smith. He's not allowed to have sex in it. Are you smitty. It's so pretty whatever pain right now he's in a lot of pain he should himself. No again aren't care not a part of the show shila myself smash it himself everybody. That's what happened was it was it was a schmidt mitt. Ghetto shit grennell schmitz creek done right now <hes> but we have a huge shoulder. I'm gonna get this belt is fucking heavy. You can't carry this right now so much for your back sorry. I mean it's just too much. Are we got a huge show tonight. Anthony gutierrez shark bait is calling in a dude within a spectacular m._m._a. Record that is getting into professional wrestling now just like many people he is you know once you're trying to be done with 'em lifestyle. Some of those guys go for pro. Wrestling presley you know few notable names ken shamrock brock listener ronda rousey fuck man matt riddle sony deville these are people that had anime careers and then they went on to be professional wrestlers and do well. What's really good about this is anthony. Gutierrez is going to be fighting for an evolved contract. This mother moba fucking weekend in detroit area livonia michigan knights of columbus hall this saturday evolve one thirty three that shows going on at eight o'clock but before that shine in sixty shine wrestling the amazing talented women of shine wrestling are going to be going on at four pm yo motherfuckers you anybody anybody in the metro detroit area you can go to this show and if you go to eat ticks dot com and you'll get your tickets and you use the code word detroit promo code d. e. t. we are oh a ten percent off of your ticket. That's good fucking deal. I mean you know it's it's a woman and you shouldn't beat it. True still wanna do you don't ever want to stand. Get your hands with either in this fucking amazing. I look okay. I just can't say enough great things about this fucking belt the way it feels the weight of it the the look the craftsmanship zebras gou guys go to facebook and look zebras z. b. r. o. s. that some quality shit right. It's they give you a nifty left baghdad. Got a bag to put it in your bag on the floor awesome. It's just easier to carry around like that guy. That fucking thing is heavy and it's new so it's like cutting up pieces of my body and things like that. There's a pretty good week for wrestling. We've got a week week before star cast which will be at in chicago scar cast. We will be eight an official mother fucking vendor. Come out and see us. Here's the thing about starcast we want everyone. Who is there to be a part of our show. We're going to be walking around doing video. Interviews have put a microphone in your mother fucking face ace. We are going to have you talk about what you feel. At star cast. We're going to be walking around sunday especially after the whole out wrestling pay per view and we're going to be talking to people bull in the halls. If you're in the collector's corner area and you see our booth come on out man we'll have you sit down and have a conversation with us. Talking about what you think about is coming up what you think might might happen and then on sunday even bigger day talk about what did happen. Do you think a._w._s. Post all out. Is it going to be a better competition for w._w._e. Worse competition competition for w._w._e. In all honesty there's so much that is going to be going on with this weekend that we're going to be a part of it will be there all fucking weekend. Thursday friday saturday and sunday breaking on the ring will be in the collector's corner vending man. We got stickers to give away. We hope just wanna get you guys. Give view some business cards and everything follow us on all over social media at b._d._r. Cast it's all that we ask for you to do and you will gladly we will gladly fucking. Have you sit down. Have an interview you can have a conversation because look man. The whole bottom line is this we have always been built as a show for our fans by our fans because because we've heard you guys people said they like many that's why we didn't fire and cavalry and affirmative action. No no air pockets we we have joe. We already have our minority yeah. We don't need you. The fans liked you so we keep you the two of them yeah. They're like mass. Minis great and i'm like yes. They are ma'am and sir but yeah obviously we want to see everyone out there <hes> <hes> if you're someone who is listening to the show we'll be out in chicago definitely come out to start cast c._s. If you're listening if you're not someone who subscribes to the show following us on our social media but you randomly just came across this first off. Please wipe us off. You could have used a condom second off that's fine. That's fucked subscribe to subscribe to our fucking shit and and <hes> definitely definitely definitely come out and see us and sit down and have a conversation. Anthony gutierrez is going to be calling up in just a minute. Minute again evolved one thirty three this weekend in detroit michigan evolved one thirty four thirty three saturday one thirty four. We'll be in chicago but at one thirty three three anthony gutierrez is going to be taking on somebody for the foreign evolve contract contract and that's due book. I think that's great. What do you guys. Are you guys excited about this or any of you. Guys are going to be able to attend the of all. I cannot because it's a saturday. I'll the same places you we work together own. He works there he does. I think joe is going. It sounded like he was joe. Usually goes a few of these events which is awesome yeah that all three hundred shows out for showing off. September dearborn is well in september in dearborn yeah. I just read that on me here. Nice usually goes to those is he. I think he you had mentioned that in a chat a while back about us getting tickets to that. I think <hes> anthony gutierrez can be taken on a local guy koran for this contract but gutierrez man. He is no small potatoes dude eleven in three professional fighting record write in an m._f._a. So it's not like the dude's coming in with some small time he's not. He's not small potatoes in m._m._a. He's coming through with a winning strong winning record and two of his losses were decision and split so it's not even like dudes like got knocked out and stuff like that. He's he's coming through for all of us. I it's it's just it's great. It's it's wonderful to just see <hes> what what he's done. <hes> tom had to pulled up. That's the wrong word. It's this one has its opening up a whole new door for guys to come over to professional wrestling wrestling and it's you know it's cool to see a lot of these people successful careers like you had mentioned brock listener and ronda rousey and matt riddle and the the cable asking yeah triple eight now that's got shit lacks good shit. Oh you're welcome conversation. <hes> obviously we're also going to be giving. I because i wasn't here last week. We'll go a little bit back into takeover and summertime mainly ainley takeover just because that's really the only one i wanna get have an opinion on which i thought was spectacular but will go into a little bit of the matches but yeah man <hes> he he anthony gutierrez. Just spectacular can't wait for the man to call in <hes> other things that are going on you know who said the evolve wrestling <hes>. It's again back in michigan. It's like every six months <hes> yeah. They're coming around a lot of notice that which is cool which is really awesome really great because we love it you you know i mean every time we've had a show. <hes> we've seen his show. It's been something that at the end of it. Whoever's been there whoever went they all walk away going that was really good and even the tenth anniversary show one thirty one that was on the w._w. Network that got a lot of praise man. Yeah it was good. You know i'll with austin theory <hes> i ate j._d. Drake in semi the co main event austin theory showing up at takeover sitting in the crowd and things like that so there's a lot of huge buzz. There's a nelson for the use of be we're gonna get it means officially a part of it <hes> and things like that so a lot of buzz evolve one thirty three though as i was saying august twenty fourth eight pm to eleven pm here in the metro detroit area again ladies and gentlemen <hes> monaghan knights of columbus hall tares nineteen eighty-one farmington road lavonia michigan four eight one five two again. You can also get tickets e- dot com for that <hes>. Let's let's talk about first off. There's names you know right. Obviously you go to these shows like this and you find out people that you like but there's names enough medics t- that are going to be there for meet and greet <hes> tomato ciampa matt riddle shida are to arise babatunde an x._t. Guys to meet and greet with them. Actually nobody sunday you know. Bobby tiny was actually just pulled next now but he was just pulled off of the weekend events unfortunately so <hes> and of course you know of all sorts will be available for pictures and autographs to main three main events in this man evolved tag team championship match. Anything goes a are fox leon rough defending against. I missed a call from. Let's call him right back ding ding whose hooding i it didn't come through that was i. I didn't hear it easier to do two or something. I can't even rock right now. It looks like your watches ringing. Though we're going to get them that was weird they it didn't ring at all. It will usually <unk> funky little beat come in that. We didn't get anything time and it's not immune or anything like that so. I don't know why we didn't hear again. I know you are on the phone with breaking down the ring. Is this the one the only mr shark bait himself anthony gutierrez aloe it is i have you guys do so good to talk to your brother. <hes> just talking about the volve matches. That's going on here in livonia michigan this saturday eight pm for evolve one thirty three and you are a part of evolve one thirty three. You're having an evolved contract match. The winner between you and crom are gonna be getting an evolved contract track. How excited are you for this. I mean i'm extremely excited man. This is <hes> it's a obviously this is the biggest match of my entire pro wrestling career. This is the biggest moment in my entire for wrestling career for <hes> you know reasons being you know all all this now the developmental league basically for the w._w._e. <hes> now the next tease donde cable t._v. So you know signing a full time contract. Possibly if i could win this match you know take out. Koran would just mean the world to me. <hes> you know if i could you know get this <hes>. Get this match one and get that contract so the opportunity for this to happen is just mind blowing now looking forward to it. You are coming from an background which in the first place is something that a lot of people who have had a lot of success in professional wrestling have done from hearkening back from back in the day with ken shamrock to most notable ones being brock listener ronda rousey matt riddle you know people like that and you had a great record man and <hes> as a featherweight you had eleven wins only three losses so it's not even like you had a minimal career years like you know what whatever no you're strong in highly ranked thirtieth right in featherweight in the world <hes> yeah <hes> i think last time i that was ranked the top i don't know what i was ranked in the world featherweight but i know in the mid west i was top <hes> top three and entire mid wet <hes> professional pathway so i've had a really good accessible in the main career and i'm still actively fighting a math on a at the beginning of the summer or minute is on or to you know be wrestling under under the evolve umbrella like renal did and <hes> you know trying to basically i'm just trying to follow the same footsteps as they may fighters before me that were successful assessable with wrestling <hes> you know i have a lot of respect for people like ronda rousey matt riddle brock listener 'cause we are able to do it at the highest level in both games so you you know i'm using them as and going after what got you into professional wrestling obviously to m._m._a. Takes is one sort of dedication edification. Professional wrestling is another type of dedication and completely different from some of the things that you do in m._m._a. So what made you fall in love of with professional wrestling and did you fall in love with crossing i and get an m._a. Or was it m._m._a. And then watching pro wrestling got you into that i was is a pro wrestling fan. I elementary school <hes> you know watching it as a fan. Purely <hes> started in the attitude era nineteen ninety eight. I was eight years is old. <hes> i was my first wrestling show ever went to it was when owen hart <hes> passed away a temporary arena wall early at a young age like wrestling selene was pretty impactful in my life. You're there yeah i was there. Damn continue continue your answer and then we're going to actually go into that okay <hes> and so you know i was a fan of pro wrestling as a young kid. I was eight years old when that happened and as i got older i would say getting closer to high school. I stopped becoming a fan of pro. Wrestling every reason just fell off and <hes> started becoming a fan of him and may <hes> <hes> got into m._m._a. Pursued that <hes> and started fighting in anime i had a lot of them and may fight and then in two thousand fifteen one of my buddies huge huge pro wrestling fan and we became roommates and when he started reintroducing me to the business i started watching it from the aspect of <hes> a faint in <hes> or not got a fan but <hes> you know actually a worker and you know not watching it. That's popping from the moments but really watching it from the lens of you know the business side of things and i became fascinated with it because i was thinking you know with. All these good may skills that i have <hes> you know i i feel like i could really figure out this complicated. You know wild game that is pro wrestling and and you know i was never under the impression that all if i can do i can do pro wrestling. I was never under that impression. I i saw immediately how difficult it was that if you're going to be successful acceptable in the industry it has to come with a you know a strong passion and <hes> so that's just kinda how i got i went from <hes> regaining reintroduced who's back into pro wrestling from hers lands and you know just having a desire to try it and next thing you know one thing led to another and i've been pro wrestling for about two and a half years okay so let's go back to your first ever wrestling experience over the edge nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine may twenty third you in attendance attendance for the fall of the late great alwyn heart and obviously that is a major moment for any wrestling fan. Let alone a i. I ever experienced this at a at a wrestling show eight years old. So what did that do for through your psyche. I'm pro wrestling well. I'll be honest man. I don't remember like the moment happening at all <hes> and i as a kid. We were kinda still under the impression that you know it was part of the show. We weren't really sure what was going on. Our parents weren't very transparent about the whole deal right away way and i. I don't even think they were completely sure you know because our parents weren't really pro wrestling fans so they don't really understand everything steak. You know <hes> 'cause totally understand the business and so at the time i remember like just not really <hes> understanding what was happening and then the next morning i remember we had a sleepover at my buddy's house of the family. That took us in the mom told us the next morning they seen it on the news and we were like oh man so it was pretty big deal wow so you said even into professional wrestling for two and a half years. Have you been in matches for two and a half years or is a lot of that training. Because obviously you still been fighting in like you said recently. I mean as recently as if i'm not mistaken september twenty second you had twenty two thousand eighteen. You had a fight right <hes> yes. I don't know the exact date of my last fight. Adam award somewhere yeah for tayside. Who was the opponent adamant awards <hes> ad awards since then yeah. We'll shut here this year two thousand nineteen. That's why i was like i can't be right time. Apologize about has a fight history is at the last one we have for you. Check out a mixed martial art dot com for sure dog dot com but i mean either way. It's close enough right right that we sure. Don't is the one that i was on interest. Damn fake news. That's huge <hes> so but again you still have been fighting enemy very recently so i saw that you had a match with journey pro- <hes> out out there in kansas this right kansas city and that was just in july wrestle for any other promotion before that oh yeah. I've wrestled the ton of matches. I've had out <hes> i would say close to one hundred pro wrestling matches well. I guess that's not a ton but compared to a lot of guys but i'm coming up on close to a hundred batches in two and a half years. It's amazing so let's not for lucky. There was a company called the n. wwl national wrestling league and it popped up out of nowhere in the mid west and kansas city by this million dollar i._t. Software guy and that was really what kind of motivated me to join join their camp and become a full time wrestler in the n. Wwl organization was <hes> you know the silly salary that they pain which eventually after two years the you know the owner ended up <hes> you know shutting down because he blew a bunch of money but you know there was a promotion called in wwl popped up in kansas city and they were paying fulltime salaries and moving having some talent to kansas city and shows the west every friday saturday and sometimes sundays and so that's what really inspired me to learn wrestling and i got my feet wet there where i mean as soon as i started training. I was working matches on you know all over the midwest within three days a week and <hes> so i started out of the gate hot wrestling every week two three times and <hes> when the end wwl went under it's been a little bit harder to get book so i'm not wrestling as frequently but i'm still able to <hes> show up and wrestled three four times a month. That's awesome now. You're coming in with evolve. Which like you said is basically now w._w._e. Developmental sims annexed is being moved up to u._s._a. Network network starting september eighteenth <hes>. Have you done anything with the w._w._f. In live people before or is this your first <hes> <hes> foray with evolve. It's i've wrestled with the ball before i wrestled on. They're not on the w._w._e. Network <hes> <hes> i i <hes> show but i- rested on their new york card trier that okay i went to a <hes> an evolved seminar that was ran by roderick strong the show before before the anniversary show network and <hes> after that seminar they gave me a match on the evolved card it was in brooklyn and so i- wrestled a guy named steve painting hanging on one by triangle choke and then so now after this recruitment camp i've been selected as you know the winner of the one of the two applicants since and the w. w. in recruitment camp koran. There's me and in the winter of our match will receive a full-time contracts. This will be my second time wrestling on the ball which is awesome and this will be my first time ever battling for contract so i have to ask then as it's going going on and obviously you want this evolved contract like you said one of the biggest moment the biggest moment in your professional wrestling career <hes> if you if you win which again i've seen the journey pro match. I've watched. I've been looking at some highlights of your fights and you go so if you windass what do you plan on pursuing professional wrestling fulltime and stepping away from or trying to do both i <hes> i plan on doing those as as long as possible right now on a twelve <hes> my pro record is three and i'm gonna fight win streak in m._m._a. <hes> and it's looking like my next fight could be under the u._f._c. Let's see banner <hes> and i. I actually almost was fighting. Dana white's contender series two weeks ago <hes>. I almost got an opportunity to slide in on short short-notice so two weeks ago. I was real close to fighting on e._s._p._n. Plus they knew is series and a managed by a sports company called iridium sports agency and they do a really good job job at <hes> once. I want my fight in a row. I signed with them and they picked me up and you know they're telling me that my next fight is going to be under the umbrella so i'm just hoping to to get some sort of opportunity with the u._f._c. but i'm also pursuing my professional wrestling career trying to take it <hes> as high as i can go so you know my goal is to make connects in my goal of fighting. You have see and hopefully i can do them. You know within the same year. 'cause i want to do something that hasn't been done for. I'm glad you brought up u._f._c. Because i've seen my researching of you <hes> something popped up under the a._f._c. dot com and engineering and i was like holy hell man this is y even just like looking at your record like i said it's a it's a strong winning record and the fact that it popped up and you have a biography page for on u._f._c. dot com and i just want to say congratulations for that because i thought that was amazing. When i saw that pop up thanks man appreciate that and then of course you getting into evolve hopefully getting this contract and going again with an x t maybe even because we gotta call annex team main roster now right. It's raw smackdown is an x._t. And we so we basically have to say if you go from fall to annex t or wherever you look in for main roster so what are your hopes and aspirations as a professional wrestler and you know i i guess you know my goal is to wrestle. <hes> become two of five live champion and you know how how 'bout really good at x t but right now i. I don't really get ahead of myself where you know of course i wanna wrestle wrestlemainia. I'd love to you know beat seth rollins in the main event and all that stuff would be amazing and i do think that you know if i work my butt off and continue to do the right thing that can happen but you know realistically for me and my near future future. I could see myself you know winning the two or five live cruiserweight title. I could see myself being successful and not and so right now you know my goal is just to get better every single day. I'm not letting a single day. Go by don't at least improve in the right direction to get closer to those goals <hes> and so you know rather it's signing signing up for camps investing the money that it takes to travel down there to take off work <hes> regard signing up across bit or speed and agility programs. You know it's a point in my life now twenty eight years old i've been <hes> you know seen as a professional athlete for over ten years and i know what it takes to be successful when it comes to combat sports and stuff but i'm also aware that even if you do all the right things and <hes> you do everything you're supposed to do. Nothing is guaranteed in life especially in something. I'm like professional wrestling or mixed martial arts you could be the best wrestler in the world is the best fighter in the world that does not mean anything like that doesn't mean you're going to get your spot. You deserve it means. You're gonna get the money. Did you deserve so you know. I've developed a pretty unique mindset of i am married to the game and i am taking every single day. <hes> making sure that i get one percent better <hes> to accomplish my goals but i also have a relaxed attitude that you know. I'm just going to enjoy this process. Joy this journey and i'm thankful for <hes> you know being being able to wrestle in front of tomasa ciampa these next t. executives engage supports. Give the recruitment camp and to impress them and you know to be able to wrestle on the ball. Show you know be considered a fight for the u._f._c. and so i try to just you know enjoy everything that i'm doing now and then and you know know that i'm doing everything i i need to do to do to accomplish it and whatever happened to happen. You know what i mean if it happens awesome if it doesn't it's not going to change me. You know what i mean and that's an amazing outlook to have on it. You know with anything because you like. You said you're you're right. You want to get better but at the same time don't look too far ahead focus on attainable goals that are in your very near future which then only sets up for the ultimate goal. That's again. I anybody who's listening any any kid anybody who's looking into any of this they can take from that and move forward with that and become better in their own lies and that just makes you a good role model for anybody as well yeah man i've. I've noticed like you know there's professional wrestlers that <hes> i've you know i've been toward me and i looked up to no one that comes to mind is a guy like <hes> jeremy wyatt. Hi it and you know who jeremy wyatt is on no and and that's been such a shame man and that's kind of my point is this. That's not unu- nobody who knows who he is and honestly do like. I've wrestled a lot of people you know in the last two and a half years. Jerry is the best wrestler i ever wrestled early on believable technician. I q athleticism. Everything is unbelievable but like i was explaining you know you can get as good as you. Can you know be but nothing's guaranteed not to come from it and so i'm just trying to basically get to that jeremy wyatt level. Do all the things that i can do to get to the stages. I need to but you know. Currency is mastering the business and getting as good as i can be at it. That's what's gonna make me happy and whatever happens after let's get it you know for sure so we have a question that we ask ask to everybody calls in and we want to know what is the best ribs that you have had played on you and in your professional wrestling career and what's the best rib that you have played on somebody else. Do you know who robs bamberger is. The name rings a bell. Actually he's the w._w._e. Guy who <hes> draws all the cool photos and sells them on dot com yes so he is from kansas city and i i was doing extra work at a aw and he rigged me <hes> telling me that you're gonna be in this cheerleader spa and this is the first time i'd ever an extra and he's like comfortable backstage. People know who he is and so. I'm all like quiet nervous. He comes up and ribs me telling me that i'm going to be this cheerleader for for the ms or something and i need to go to make up and get sized and when i went over to wardrobe he had like the wardrobe person on it. They're like measuring my waist and i'm all excited thinking thinking then i'm going to be a a frigging cheerleader for the ms and my first year of wrestling and extra work and then all of a sudden rob was like oh you actually that wasn't going to happen and i was like you asshole asshole. Why would i not believe you. You know what i mean right or be back here and <hes> so yeah that that that actually kinda pissed yeah but i guess right. That's one hundred percent or read. That's definitely a rim. Have you been able to pull one off on anybody. Else know up to new the rich people true all right but it's even still there are people that are coming even newer the new that you could definitely pull something off on. I'm maybe you can get something on this evolve show show yeah. I don't know i guess i'm i'm mess with people so much that i probably just it could be considered a rib just my personality but i can't think of anything. I've done to anybody but when you ask the biggest it's been done to me. That's for sure it right there and that sticks that sticks the fuck out to know for sure the cheerleader about that like i'm going to get that back. You know what you should. That's the perfect. That's the whole point of it. Everyone gets a receipt for something like that man so i definitely hope you get it back with that. Now you are taking on kurram at for the an evolved contract as we stated earlier on evolved one thirty three right here in michigan anyone who's listening. You eat ticks dot com. Get your ticks to get four evolve one thirty three here in michigan. There's a large card for this spot. Is there anything that you wanna say to krom in regards to this match. You know what i mean. I really a message dot com but really it's just you know everybody in my way as far as you know future opponents and any rosters concerned <hes> but mainly karam's <hes> since he's my next opponent and it's you know what people don't realize is i've been invested in combat sports for you know basically over half half my life. Now you know started to train at and early teen made my amateur mixed martial arts debut in highschool twenty amateur fights coming up on sixteen professional vice now men a prime body at twenty eight years old with a with a high fight i q and so it really just my message to everybody. Is you know so <hes> with all my sacrificed in combat sports with training and competing in developing mindsets and different perspectives as i grow as a person it's it's. I really am you know. I really feel like it's my time. I really feel like all that works me apart. I feel confident in my skills and you know i'm just out here to show everybody. Why all the work i've put in. That's me apart and you know why. I'm guy to run with. It and you know why i'm going to be successful. So you know that's my message to everybody you <hes> you know i've i've been busting my butt and combat sports for a long time and i feel like the ball is all rolling finally to the spot here and it's evolved. It's car. It's in detroit and and here we go. Hell man would definitely rooting for you. Hope you get this contract at evolve one thirty three anthony gutierrez mr shark doc bait himself. We wanna thank you so much for calling in brother. We hope to talk to you again in the future and again good luck at evolve one thirty three brother thanks guys. I hope that rambling rambling made sense. I appreciate you guys have the they did. Manage it the whole point of bro you gotta you gotta cut them. All and you gotta get down and you did. Nothing went off or anything thing like that so we definitely appreciate you calling in. Thanks man appreciate you guys have me. I'll talk to you soon. I brother see ya thanks and ladies ladies and gentlemen again. That's anthony gutierrez shark bait. He will be at evolve one thirty three this weekend this saturday ladies and gentlemen in livonia vonia michigan august twenty four the bell time begins eight p._m. You will be able to see again will go into the car for a main event number. One the evolve tag team championship match anything goes air fox leon rough defend against joe casey and sean melinda of the unwanted main event number two only only in evolve matt riddle versus. Josh briggs main event number three only in evolve kushida taken on the show jay dee drink drink then we got a non title match of one twenty two rematch evolved champion austin theory. I anthony henry grudge match kurt stallion verse anthony green with brandy lauren winner gets the evolve contract match again koran versus anthony gutierrez and then first time ever match arturo ruez for stephen wolff special attraction coaching match of shot ski blackheart. They cannot cameroon's jam ron burnett nick year in love with me. Shatskikh blacker like my love vegas breath and then the tag team attract match adrian alanis and liam gray of the skull versus mongo and cyrus again good eats dot com. Get your tickets for volve one thirty three this saturday august twenty fourth in livonia michigan and again before that show at four p._m. Make it a day for wrestling and shine sixty eight six dot com. You can go oh to shine sixty four o'clock those tickets ten percent off if you use the promo code detroit that's d. e. r. o. i._t. And then from four o'clock locked to eleven you can have your own wrestlemainia wrestling right here in the metro detroit area and you can be involved with evolve and you can glow with shine. You can just be out there you can oh yes. You can have a whole bunch of fun man. I was really upset. I wasn't able to attend the shine show last time they were in town because seeing stuff on the club w._w._f. Again w._w._e. Live dot com club w._w. Dot com get yourself a membership to that for nine ninety nine a month and you can see all of this evolved talent all of the shine matches and then other things dragging gate. There's so many great things that are this is. Let let let's be very honest. I think this might be the deal and professional wrestling you go to any one of these other streaming services for wrestling w._b._z. He's like the only one that gives you a separate brand of an x._t. Not anymore ring of honor no he's still get it. I don't really talk about it. Ring of honor gives you ring of honor. New japan gives you new japan and if you go to club w._w._f. You get so many different wrestling promotions that again. I cannot talk highly enough about how many promotions that they give you and like evolve wrestling. You've seen it on the w._w. Network like you've seen evolve wrestling their shine if you're looking for a bunch of women's wrestling bow lane that's what you do bunch. Shine is all women all incredibly ably talented women that wrestle that aren't like does model you did yeah you're not tuning into this and you're not getting attitude era and the next ten years of w._w. Women like that no you're watching women go added at it man so much ramona phase wrestle wrestle under shine on yes she did and then there's i believe g._w. Is a part of club w._w._w. G._w. or shimmer one of them <hes> it's definitely an i don't see shimmer shimron here as well yeah shimmer shine shimer's all women as well as well the viva la lucia like you said dragon gate. There's there's so much that you get off of this. I think club w._w. In is an i for me personally because i haven't. I'm not just blowing smoke up anyone's ass. I honestly feel that that club w._w._f. Is probably your most elite wrestling subscription service because of how much it gives you that being said let's move on to what we were teasing in the lead and that is the announcement for annex t moving to the u._s._a. Network fray frei live weekly two hour show starting september eighteenth at eight p._m. Which is if i'm not mistaken three weeks two weeks six ahead of pre tober second is eight of you on tuesday and wednesdays yeah. It's yeah stops starts october the second so two weeks 'cause eighteenth twenty fifth and then on october second is is the third week so they have a two week. I'd start on a w introducing people to you can t talent that some have not seen because they don't have w._w. Network on a major platforms smitty. You've been scoffing at this every time. It's been brought ah i i've put out about it and when news broke is a cited for my favorite my favorite pardon me. I never really really have anything to complain about. It and i'm just worried like vince is say he's going to be more involved with you know he didn't he didn't he never said that. That was a rumor that came out that everyone said as a matter of fact vincent even have any part with takeover everything that is said about this is still triple. H is baby vince vince will never be at a live show matter of fact. There's a new report coming out saying that he's tentatively ready to step away from w._w._e. Cell thing yes which is getting more and more house vince had nothing to do with takeover so all of the people that were bitching because of a report that came out saying vince might be a little bit more hands on with he didn't touch it. He wasn't at the n._f._c. takeover. He's not going to be the next wednesday tapings. They said it's gonna be the exact same commentary team. They said it's going to be the exact same thing that you have gotten week after week after week on the w network and just now you're going to get two hours long u._s._a. Network oil as it. I believe what i see is because i is going up to the u._s._a. Now we're going to be main rosser. I just don't want anything to become a basic. May like basic may roster show like ross mag. Are you just ultimately ultimately jaded because this has nothing to do with vince like i don't understand that the with the main with just the main w product doc in general and an exceedingly excited i love exceed i really do i just i worry about it being being like being rebranded and just being the same generic shit. We see them monday tuesday now even a report from dave meltzer stated that is not cheating nick. You heard about this news. What are your thoughts on well. I'm optimistic <hes>. I think it's good that it's going to go for two two hours <hes> it. It sounds like they're going to stick with <hes> full sail university where they film it now <hes> at least for the time being <hes> <hes> yeah i i'm cautiously optimistic. You know like we said before we went on the air. That's all reports. It's all rumors but funny enough. When vince mcmahon's name gets thrown in the ring automatically just people just start shitting their brains out <hes> so i hope for the best i am cautiously optimistic but i do think that they'll be fine and i think they've got a great idea with what they're doing putting it on wednesday nights so happens to also be the night that he w beyond tv but <hes> <hes>. It's a great idea if they don't touch it just leave it. The way it is is maybe up the production value a little bit because obviously they're gonna wanna do that. Being on a major network i'm fine with it. <hes> from what everything is so oh this is coming from pro wrestling she dot com ryan sat and reporting <hes> august twentieth so yesterday. There's a great fear on the internet that things will be changing in annexed t now that the black and yellow brand and has landed a t._v. Deal but we're told the fear is unwarranted sources. Tell us despite speculation the current plan for next to remain the same show. It's been for years and that moving to the u._s._a. Network was only done to get more is on the product bottom line. If you worried about losing the work rate heavy product that's been spearheaded by triple h for years don't be as ezra and then as they actually will be airing live on u._s._a. For two hours september eighteenth here's my thoughts and prayers on this plea. Don't give a shit. I i really don't <hes>. I am not worried about this. One two hours is perfect is is two hours perfect because two hours. The only difference is gonna be further people who attended live. That's where you're going to see the difference annex t once aired on u._s._a. Okay okay. It came on during a wwf w._w._e. And it was on wednesday as well okay and that's probably where this all started. The show that went on on was an hour long on the u._s._a. Network you know how much of that show that you didn't see that was put on the w._w. Network half that's because there were commercials. Commercial breaks the exact same hour long product. You get when you watch the w._w._e. Network is going to be the exact same thing put on the u._s._a. Network just with fucking commercials w._w. Now is going to have three television shows. That have a bunch of advise that people are going to be spending money to put t._v. Commercials in that is going to jump w._w._e. Stock up even more vince is talking about tentatively stepping stepping epping away right and that's just reports as well because we don't fucking know but what we do know is that vince didn't touch takeover the most recent one in toronto that everyone including our own joe was pissed about and brought everyone in about this whole fucking thing at the end of it. There was no blood in a violent fucking match. It wasn't wasn't a violent match. There was barbed wire on the outside of a cage that johnny gargano had to climb over just to cut and get used it wasn't used because because it didn't happen he had cut fell off the top and into the tables match ended right. It's not it's nothing that vince had his hand hand in triple h has been showing violent type of matches next t- further years johnny gargano took a fucking d._d._t. Threw off off the second rope to the wood of ma- of a wrestling ring to the would no padding no nothing no blood right. It's not new this is nothing new for annex t vince didn't fuck something up on annexed takeover he wasn't there. All reports are stating. He's not going to be a part hard of this and as far as i'm concerned that means i got nothing to worry about. Is there a possibility of vince doing something with this in the future nope why no because vince barely touches smackdown he does but he barely touches it. He's not there for these live tapings. The fucking other people are running. He goes to smackdown when it's a big fucking show. There's a reason that he barely shows his face on smackdown but raw is his baby raw. One hundred percent is something that he will always have a fucking hand in right. It is triple h baby the minute. It was conceptualized with the performance center with an x t triple. H was handed that raines vince said said this is your baby vince could not step on fucking aaa shoes with this because then triple h is look at him say i don't fuck with you and he doesn't and then vince comings. I'm not worried about triple. H not being able to stand up to vince mcmahon triple. H is probably the only fucking guy that could stand up to vince mcmahon. He's the only one that got shit fix with the guys that vince kept bringing up when he wasn't around vince pulled all this fucking call up shit when triple h wasn't even involved he wasn't there. Everyone said that fucking day that all of a sudden the four people showed up black ricochet gargano and champa charlton show. We'll know chapels. They oh yeah yeah he wasn't and then two weeks later that they found out about the next so vint triple h wins next week's your fucking this up stop and then triple h kind of righted the ways with them. Hell look at ricochet right now. Sorry been a u._s. Champion you know he's in the king of the ring tournament. He's highly. The featured alastair black has had great matches since he finally debuted you know after getting away from the tag team. Which did it take a little bit too long for some of us sure but did it pay off in the end. Yes and he's a highly sought after thing on television right. Now people love alastair black this is is that fucking street prophets man kidding me. She all the most entertaining thing going on w._w. Television right now be raw or the fucking paper he <music>. I'm not worried about the next. I'm not worried about an x t. I have no reason to worry about an x._t. Not if you're telling me that everything's going to stay the same but right when it comes up. I'm not worried about it. We'll things evolve. Sure everything evolves. If you look back at some of the first fucking things of x t it looks like a fucking child child's play wrestling thing if you're watching the first <hes> you yeah absolutely everything evolves man and this is evolved to a two hour issue show but it's going to be live weekly so you're not going to get these fucking in <hes> tape matches where you get a spoiler for something like a tag title change or something like that because the w._w. Network is set up for notifications on your phone. Yep you know again. We're not spoiling anything for anyone else. We're not even saying that. They'd happened recently even though you did w._w._e. Is doing something good with an x t and a live weekly show from what i hear still all at full sail not they're not going on the road. Oh they're not going there still every week. At full sail you can go on a wednesday night and watch annex t for two hours at full sail currently will. They're probably be touring ring. Sure is what i do live tours right and they do that now but obviously it's different when you have a weekly live show too so it's probably not going to be during weekly. Weekly live show at roy. Look music theater. I mean that'd be awesome. I'm totally down for an x. t. t._v. here in royal oak michigan. I'm not worried about this. I feel like if you're worrying about this. You're literally just looking for something to complain about sars many i. I love you to death man but i feel like there's no reason to worry. They haven't given you a reason to worry. They haven't touched anything. It's like your word because you just wanna think things are go bad more at about the n._f._c. brand being all night u._s._a. Network where everything else is right now now and but if it's still baby why are you worried if you like what it is now and even the time isn't changing what they do on the network. It's going to be the same matches and everything put forward word. The same product heavy <hes> work rate heavy product. They have been putting out. If that's what if he stays that way i'm i'm fine with it on this like you know something's gonna change. Eventually in will be better or worse if it's been al-shabaab is going to be for the better you seen when he told me five yeah come on man. You're just i feel like you just wanna be have animosity towards because there was a rumor that vince mcmahon was touching and you never did always skeptic about anything with on on the main routes from me so my next question about this is yes. Annex t is now a main roster brand and exterior going to have a show. It's gonna have title. It's gonna not just be an x._t. Not because it's smackdown raw annexed is like its own little brand right. Are we think annual. I know stated originally and it's still coming out that the next takeovers will still air exclusively on the w._w. Network and thursday at eight o'clock doc w._w. Network you can watch the entire two hour. Show that aired on u._s._a. On wednesday so you can watch it live on either u._s._a. Say or the network watch it live on u._s._a. And then it will re air on the network gotcha day the next day on thursday at the same time the yard they eventually ron smackdown takes a couple of weeks ago but at the same time that's probably the in the contract like we're still going to air the next next week after the and who knows maybe with the new television stuff coming up in october where they move to fox. It's very possible that you'll see. Maybe just a one one week. Delay like you can watch smackdown the week after you know or something like that they can work however they want so my thought process things running what <hes> like on every so moving there yup everything in life that everything's moving yep yep my boss awesome watching right now so shut out. The demi thought dabs how you doing well <hes> uh-huh yeah. We just had a frozen now. Everything's real lag. Do you think that we start seeing more integration with an extended w._w._e. Pay per views or are we going to four. Let's let's say after wrestlemainia will w._w. Start incorporating next and their titles into w._w._e. Pay per views or maybe because right now during the big four you have a takeover in front of it so your four five takeovers for me. You have five t five takeovers you does w._d. Think w._w._e. He starts moving annex t belts matches stuff into w._w._f. Reviews nick. We're gonna start with you. I'm gonna running water so i'll listen. I feel like if they're going to keep things the same way. Nobody messing with anything. If it's not broke don't fix it type attitude then no. I think they'll keep <hes> you know four or five pay per views year ear. Which is i think the way it should be anyway because it gives you more time to build a story and the camera care about give you more time to to be invested in in it depending on how successful it is. Sometimes i feel like if things are too successful in that company that they kind of go overboard and trying criminal throat as much as they can and it comes back to bite him in the ass. Oh i initially no i think they'll keep it with their stander takeovers four or five pay per year and i that's why i said post wrestlemainia pose russell. I'm saying that's we're talking. We have to that'll be the third the big show because we sell <unk> survivor series coming up which is <hes> after this debut on u._s._a. Which september eighteenth the first wednesday after clashing champions so obviously he's part of this one helena cell is is the october pay per view november is survivor series one of the big four final big four two thousand thousand nineteen. Obviously royal rumble kicks off the big four season with twenty twenty twenty and then you have wrestlemainia tampa bay after wrestlemainia. What's the likelihood that the takeovers are gone and annex. T product is worked into normal we'll w._w._e. Pay per views. If you had to take a percentage. I'd say a thirty five percent chance thirty five percent. He has after wrestlemania after estimate. What do you think before wrestlemainia samania ten percent ten percent ships many what is your percentage chances and then. How do you feel about it if it does do go that way so let's say before wrestlemainia. What's your percentage chance of. It's going before wrestlemainia. I'm maxine zero because if they if they are truly going with the we not gonna touch. Leave everything where it is. You're not integrate way different papers us though i'll be very honest of his own thing as they may actually integrate annex guys into they may integrate them into the royal rumble. Maybe just which they already have yeah. It was so that's nothing new but i don't think they're going to integrate themselves acce- anything into the regular alert pay per view so zero percent chance before wrestlemainia post wrestlemainia what percentage holes where samania out probably go with a thirty percent chance because like the annette depends on the success of an x t is weekly weekly so if annex t is then evolved and evolved not involve off evolved into normal w._w._e. Pay per views and the matches are still put together by the same agents that do it for takeover or that ah no these <hes> wrestlers and but they put them onto summer slam. They put him onto money in the bank things like that. What are you going to feel about it again because if they are honestly staying true to the product that they've been putting out that means even if it does evolve volve into w._w. Programming those matches are still put together by the same people that are putting together the weekly matches so it's not like it's going to go to anyone different and then triple h will still run those annex matches that are going onto a pay per view and vince will run everything else. He's still around cause w the x._f._l. Announced eight logos goes in teams today so tampa pick up of <hes> but anyway so if triple h is sticking to it and he's running it. How do you think you'll feel about it. Being on the main shows every main pay-per-view rather than getting five takeovers a year. It was like just nix it like <hes> some of the it'd be somewhat too much else titles. There's a lot of titles w already that don't don't feature at don't get used in exceed. That's another three titles. You probably not just the way that system was because you're not gonna see those titles and does not many grudge integrate matches. That's why so. I don't in integrating integrated n._f._c. stuff into as i think it's not a good idea yeah. I totally agree because you're already struggling to put together her story lines for seven eight nine matches for w._w._e. Branded pay per view with smacked raw then half to you'll have have to maybe back up one or two of those matches to make room for semantics team matches or even three those matches so keep them separate love the idea to keep them mm separate all the way and do you think that a part of the integrating putting together story lines were on smackdown being problem is because of how much those is to shows interact with each other yeah it can be especially with the wildcard gruel and sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not and sometimes you mentioned. There's always there. You know i just there's i don't wanna use the term confusion but why why d- be have split brands at this point and maybe going with fuck they want. I mean most guys were seeing. Were seeing both nights. Roman revival fain the life. I'll be very honest man like i'm not mad about revival being utilized so much you know and i'm not gonna be you lagging in yeah. I and i and i'll say this look and x t as it stands right. Now is looking at its own one hundred percent separate brand. A netflix needs to bucket yeah and that's fine but once fox takes smackdown in october. There's no way fox's putting over talent. That's on the u._s._a. Network you're going to get much more separation in different feel of shows shows on smackdown verse raw completely once fox gets fox want certain things sure but there's no way that the u._s._a. and n._b._c. exacts and the fox exacts are going to be promoting to the same people they don't do that. Yeah fox wants a much. More sports oriented show all right with that. I'm not mad about that because if it's more sports what syria oriented show the means is going to have a higher sports presentation more matches. It's going to be the wrestling show what smackdown used to be. I'm joe bargain. Welcome kinda. Smackdown fucking fucking hell could vulcan leave at one point had a deal with fox and they were presented as sport like more like a sport at years on the stunner. I'm excited. I am sorry nice tackle by animal. Did he catch it he did oh wow wow what a catch. That's joe buck for you. Sorry all right so there's going to be different presentations and honestly different rosters. I think it's going to be very noticeable the difference in the show so when you're washing it you're just like when you watch and extend the w._w. Network it doesn't feel like raw smackdown. It feels like its own separate entity and eventually october talking a month and a half away the separate entities are gonna <hes> happen for ron smackdown and then is when i'll judge if it's a bad move or a good move for annex t matches on a w._w._e. Try branded pay per view. I think i'll be okay with it for the main reason that right now it's it feels convoluted because it is but summer slam ladies and gentlemen ended by eleven o'clock eastern time it started off with the pre show. Sorry five the first matches at six so you had a five hour of matches summer slam six to eleven summer slam. I am a big four after everyone bitched about wrestlemainia. Everyone is twelve thirty surya. Everyone bitched about how peg wrestlemainia was right and how it went so long you sat from five pm to fuck twelve thirty in the morning then what w w with their next huge pay per view. They cut that bitch an hour and a half shorter sorry two and a half hour shorter because it was five p._m. To mid twelve thirty a._m. And this was six pm. I am to eleven pm and it still came off well. We all ended so summertime was another is a good show not amazing. We're not going and saying summer. Moslem is the greatest pay per view of the year but we're not at an in the night going some soft. We haven't said that about a single w._w._e. Pay per view so there this year in two thousand and one thousand nine hundred. There's many single shitty one. Obviously annexed takeovers are leaps and bounds above and beyond what the w._w._e. Pay per views right but it's five matches and they're all really fucking good. Some of them lasts for fifty nine minutes when everyone thinks the highest it's going to be thirty seven. <hes> vida came but either way the bottom line is. I don't think i'll be worried about annex t until l. A. have to be worried about an x._t. If you're telling me that everything is going to stay the same and then maybe there's an integration an evolution either adapter after paris triple h into an x. t. shows on w._w._e. Pay per views. I'm okay with it and i'm okay with it. If everything feels was like its own brand it needs to feel like its own brand and x t is its own brand. Raw needs to be its own brand. Fucking smackdown backdown needs to be its own brand. The only difference major fucking difference with this is ron on smackdown are w._w._e. W._w._e. but it's not the w._w._e. Champion is the annex t champion smackdown smackdown has the w._w._e. Heavyweight champion raw has the w._w._e. Universal champion. There's where the correlation is a little bit to one branded but at the same time if you can make each show feel like its own thing. I'm all right with it. I'm and i think it's finally going to happen because it. A lot of people are vince wants this to be this yeah but vince listens to money way more than he does. His ego and vinci's money is being given to him by fox in u._s._a. And they're gonna want their own type of things with those is to shows so hopefully you finally see a real separation now the next big thing with this annex t to u._s._a. News news two weeks before the eighty e w product and let's be very honest percentage wise. Let me just just off the top of your head smitty and next meal start with you percentage of people that watch annex t that watch a w already. I'm sorry flip that percentage of the fan wrestling fans that watch eighty w that you think are subscribed w._w. Network n. wash annex t is it every personnel watches a w eighty percent seventy percent how many what percentage of people that watch awro watching annex t on the w._w._e. Network i was like six seventy five seventy five percents. What are you doing. I'd be right around there so i think it's about ninety percent because i think an x t is what everyone because anyone who watches he w it's the it's the same type of thing it's a little bit rougher obviously which more <hes> middle fingers and things like that but it's a pure wrestling product and that's what a lot of the fans that i have a problem with regular ron smack now have loved about an eighteen why they're so worried right now. I'd say it's a little higher than seventy seventy five percent ninety. Maybe maybe i even that's a little bit too much. Maybe eighty five <hes> or at least somehow watching youtube clips something like the the now actually hold onto network just for n._f._c. I won't that whole semi five percent because a lot of people don't we'll go to somebody. Else's place to watch watch exceed labor not just have so the smartest thing vince w._w._e. We'll just say w._w._e. Because melvin runs the company this is triple ages baby right here. The smartest fucking thing in the world they could have done is started before awa comes on a._w._s. Locked locked into their time. They're locked into their date october second. Aid w we've advertised it were here. Obviously w._w._e.'s men working this fucking thing thing for a while to get it september eighteenth september eighteenth w._w._e. Takes an x t live on u._s._a. Network at eight pm him two weeks of shows before a w has its first tasting of live weekly television and and let's be very honest and i'm i've said it before and i'll say it again. I think eighty ws television. Show live weekly television. Show is going to spill butter at first not the product. I think the products can be great but i think it's going and we've all said it. There's we have worries about eighty w from pay per views. We've seen them going into a live. Weekly show that none of them j._r. None of outside of j._r. gone i. I i say billy gunn more than cody. Cody was a performer in it and he seen things but he did. I i don't i don't know how much he was involved. Even dusty was doing w._c._w. I don't granted he has has a history of seeing it but i think outside of that but the look on production everything happened with all in like him in a box or on the back of the most of that show right and then even being able to run the run double or nothing you know and things like that. I'm not i'm not saying they don't have any experience. I'm saying it's way different seeing it then doing it nick. If seen people run the show and then he did the first week. How did you feel about it the first week he ran the show breaking down the ring a few hiccups. You know what i mean yeah. What were you nervous. Ladies like holy. I wanna make sure this goes off a little bit but that went away after about two minutes okay and then the second time you ran the show. If you're a little bit more comfortable living more comfortable third time. He ran the show much more comfortable. Would you say that if are you able to take the helm of this show if needed at a moment's notice and feel comfortable on a percent okay so that's after doing it three or four times you go back and you see the things that you did wrong and right you impro- now how annex t has put a show w._w._e. Has put out live shows but has been putting out a fucking weekly. Show uh for years yeah now. They're going lives. The only difference is going live with it live with a crew that has has had years of experience live shows behind them so they're using a veteran crew so w._w._e. Is probably presenting an x. t. You extremely polished a._w._s. Coming in a little rough w._w._e. Has as you hooked two weeks before so if you're watching an extremely polished product and then you go to a._w._s. I'm not saying it's going to be but let's say the first show has hiccups because it's the first time they're doing something like this. Which one are you more are likely to go back to and watch live versus which one you're going to watch the d._v._r. Nick and i see so there you go. That is talking genius on w._w._e.'s part. We're giving you a polished list product. I'm not again your counter program so it's it's counter programmed for sure because you're trying to get the live audience. You're trying to pull them away from their most people when they watch d._v._r. Nick how invested are you on d._v._r. Television shows that you're watching or even if you're binging something you haven't seen before i mean i am but back and rewind it. I can go back and rewind it but i also also fast forward at so. If something is seeming off your i'd say you're about any person who's watching something especially a sports program or something like that eighty percent invested man with d._v._r. Product of it me personally. I think so even if binge show due to takes a lot for something to get me sucked in completely but when you're watching a live show it's different even ron smackdown when i'm watching them live. There are things things that pull me in. There's all the time where yeah i can kind of pull away but i can honestly say. I don't think i've ever done for x t watching a taped show. No you always you always interest like kept you interested even when it was taped and if you're telling me you're basically giving me the same thing for two hours and the only difference is is the commercials i i feel like. This is a huge step on a._w._s. Toe you know <hes> as they were so much better think of someone just <hes> slamming on your toe right there. You're out of it for a minute right. How long if a w has let's say minute hiccups. We're not even talking. Let's say major. He goes i i don't i'm not even fucking wishing that on them. I want them to come out with a polished gorgeous rock the cynic in me as seeing seeing anything any pilot of any television show you have ever watched the first pilot the pilot the first fucking thing has always been pretty good and they will get you in but when you watch season eight are you watched season five versus what you saw when it first came out aw oh my god the differs because you learn you move on w._w._e. Has been fucking doing that with an x t so awa comes on and let's say you go okay i'll d._v._r. I'm gonna d._v._r. Annex t the first week because a._w._s. I show sure most likely everyone's going to watch that show live i now i will. I'll be very honest but you see the production hiccups little ones and you're like do you switch. What's the percentage of chance. Let's say you hit your third production hiccup nothing major all of these are minute little fucking things like where was the. Why didn't i see that move on that camera. Why do they have that camera instead of the other one. Here's the replay to where i can see it finally so my newt stuff little things that you know that take out out of it <hes> percentage of chance. You're switching back over to an x._t. Not smitty fifty percent james. Let's say an hour in an hour and a couple of fifty percent chance yeah. I'm still i'm still gonna be curious about how in a season on d._v._d. D._v._r. in both you're not just going to go live in x t and then catch the rest of don't have a d._v._r. We are so i'm old school like and i gotta go put. I'll probably watch all w 'cause i go back to the network or hulu. Watch exte- okay nick our oren seen a couple of production hiccups. It's kind of taking you out not really percentage though that you would switch to t and watch the rest of a._w._s. d._v._r. Five percent really nice because i i can go and switch over to annex t on a commercial and then wait for the commercial end flip back so have you switch over annex t in a commercial though and then you get real investing. Are you switching back yeah because i'm d._v._r. Ing yep. I'll be very honest. Bull shows with fucking d._v._r. For me yeah oh yeah i literally just switched cable companies again when we'll know but what i'm going to have both of those d._v._r. D- absolutely i will. I'll probably going to do like a monday night wars v._h._s. baby i honestly i. I'm more with smitty then nick five percent. I if i see hiccups and i know i'm d._v._r. In both i'm going to shoot over to the product. I know that i'm going to be fully invested in from start to finish and even not seeing the beginning of the show to be very fucking honest. I might that that fifty percent thing i might switch to the beginning of eight of an x t know watch that whole fucking show on fast forward commercials you know but it's again. It's going to take a lot man. It's gonna it's going to take a lot to get me to finally hit that. Aren't i'm turning this. There's going to be three minute few minute our in i'll probably still be there i can't i can't say that if a fucking referee does the disqualification i'm turning off and i just don't i sorry into this fucking day all the only thing that could possibly change me on this to this fucking day if i see a fuck in disqualification in an awa ring before all after all out. I'm just going to be like fuck. You guys you take yourself seriously all right. I i have a question yeah so with the population of w._w._e. Fans and potential awa fans is that our new awa fans and you have an x. T. is this oversaturation for wrestling for a lot of people. It's just too much. I'm i'm gonna say no. Here's why do you have an oversaturation of dinners. Think about it. That's lets you eat dinner every tonight right chicken and beef and that's what i'm saying. That's what's many bearing my lead and just taking my response. There's a for the most part we all have a fluctuate a variation of dinners throughout the week. I'm not gonna say every dinner is different because i've had pizza three or four times a fucking week because pizza's fuckin- delicious but at the same time time might have a big chicken night some fried chicken if you're smitty abe even some grape drink because that's what the blanket always looked at in the sunny d. commercials. I'll tell you what the horrible stuff <hes> it. I can't say it's an oversaturation when it's given to me differently. It's an oversaturation of w._w._e. Stuff right now because it's all the same fucking thing. You're not seeing anything different on monday and tuesday nights. That's the reason you got pissed off. At barron corbin lacey evans and shane mcmahon is because they were there so often in those nights like right now. How many people are truly bitching about shane gene mcmahon. I no one truly you're still truly be like still really pissed off about shane mcmahon and are you missing. Are you pissed off about shame man as much as you are this week as you were a month and a half ago a more overt pissed off if anything or it's just he's not there as much sure is there every fucking segment of ron smackdown matter of fact he hasn't touched raw is the draw and you see him three times on smackdown in non wrestling so he was a basket it was backstage this week twice backstage and he was he was and he was on the fuck inside of the match right he now especially as referee right but again and you saved wasn't fucking involved in every fucking aspect of smackdown and raw like he was a month and a half ago you pull people pull away and when people aren't seeing what pisses them off that much it starts to become a non factors much still. There's gonna agree with that acas here last week. I actually complemented roman reigns. We that's what it is. It's it's your if you stop fucking shoving things down people's throats. They can't be oversaturated in hating it right. So if raw has its its own feel and x t has its own field. Awa has its own field and smackdown has its own feel. I can't say it's an oversaturation wrestling. I completely agree because i feel like it's all all gonna be something every night. Get something different unit wednesdays. Two different shows are going to be two different products two different productions styles including hey w it gives you an alternative to which is the biggest thing about a._w._s. Like me watching three college football games on saturday watching three pro football games on sunday. It's it's the same sport but it's two totally different football but two different completing so i yeah i can't say it's an oversaturation of it so okay. We've kind of talked a little bit about the whole awa thing smitty smitty how long does eight w have for their weekly show to get shit together to truly early be competition to annex t now w._w._e. Minolta look we're not even you can't even say w._w. Anymore because the head to head show oh is an x._t. Shut up jesse says not watching the lions because lions suck fuck you jesse 'cause i'm from detroit it right. Let's let's watch your fucking las vegas raiders. Do something bigger than tony. Brown doesn't want to practice of a damn helmet. You know whatever <hes> <hes> so how long does eighty w have to put out a polish product before they start losing people six tenuously to annexed east sixteen six eight months six to eight months. Maybe maybe a year because they said they're going in fresh. No armour would go on and pretty much. Not many people are used to be being on television in and all that good stuff so they got the kings. I an impulse from there. They say six eight months. Maybe a year before you are of equal inex- no no no. I'm the question i am not too when you can your equal next. How long do you have before you start. Losing people watching your show live to the annexed tea brand they as four to six months maybe even less i other people but in once you get once they get the king still get those people back and maybe even some fresh new faces. I think they need to have something solid within two months. Here's why two months so they started in october. That gives you tober that gives you november. Maybe two and a half months after two and a half months you're going into the end of december right and at the end of december. You're moving past asked w._w._e.'s two thousand nineteen pay per view calendar into their next big show royal rumble which for a lot of people. Oh is the number to pay per view for w._w._e. Some even think is number one pay per view because there are times where people i'm resumes too long blah blah blah. I think if w if w is not giving you a strong product hello and t is obviously involved with the takeover coming up at royal rumble. You're losing your viewers to an x t. That's why two months maybe two and a half months nick for you not until they get everything there. The kinks worked out how long until they start losing viewers to annex t if they don't present a semi i polished product out agree with two or three months for sure we had talked something similar. We talked about something similar like this a a little while back where it was. How long do you give a w before you not necessarily give up on the product but maybe feel like they're gonna lose you as was a fan and a lot of us were like a year and a half two years but now with that curve ball and x t yeah i mean significantly less pressure. It's got to be an pressure. Can either break you or make you a dime the up and if you think there's no pressure then oh i couldn't remember i don't remember what young buck tweeted it but there was the announcement that came out and they quoted it and they we'd scared those probably make i saw game on your chris jericho. Wish them congratulations you know again. Chris jericho is a w but he and vincent man are still friends. This relationship possibly soured a little a little bit but then again it's just like let's say you broke up with a girl fucking ten years ago right and then all of a sudden you find out. One of your friends was dating her. I mean yeah. It's the friendship you broke up because unless you broke up with her she was cheating or something. Even if it's something that you're just completely didn't want anything to do with they're so little sour your friendship but it's you know this is something similar to that. He he went with cody in the bucks vince wanted cody in the the box he wanted. He wanted the entire league. They wanted hangman to run next while the rest of them were main roster. That's now now. He's not getting it in jericho his friend of twenty years when a w because he thought it was best for his career and it right yeah with great great reasons. We're not even arguing that but it does not change. The fact that jerry still has feelings for the w._w. Product he doesn't doesn't want it to fail but he wants. W succeed as well. I want both to succeed. Yes everything's succeed in a perfect world. Yeah awesome insee notice like twitchy like we're impact is going to see them do more as well. That's another thing yeah 'cause impacts putting on a good show. You know if i'll be very honest if using impacts such you haven't watched impact in twenty nineteen i told i've been saying this for almost two years. The impact is getting to become a better product. I would say this year no assorted. I know when you started watching it but i in my opinion. The things that i've seen impact last year it was still floundering. There's a reason it lost its network from what it was to go to pursuit and twitch but them going now dude. I think i think yeah i'm we're not going to go into a side cass about this but yes i. I think if you think impact sucks. You've watched an impact pay per view in two thousand nineteen period and it's the same. I don't think any wrestling sucks sucks even w._w._e. I think i think there's a lot of over saturation right now but they're still great things. Even you know let's let's even ron smackdown this week. Dude fucking buddy murphy and daniel bryan but you cannot do it. I really want buddy murphy. Go far king of the ring. I i love that but again and then raw raw had great moments as well becky promo that we have wanted for fucking months. You know then rebutted with fucking sasha promo look w._w._e. While it does have oversaturation of of dumb shit it has some amazing moments jerry lawler's for that was great fucking thing you know <hes> uh-huh and i agree with jesse right where jesse goes as a true fan of wrestling. You shouldn't one product would fail you should have everything succeeds and pushing everyone to produce better and better and better product and i fully agree with that when w._c._w. Went under because of network executives not because of bischoff not because of turner not because of the product l. network executives going. We don't want this. We're pulling money away from u._c. Can't do as well as you were doing and then when bischoff tried to buy. They're like yeah but we're not giving you the t._v. Time so it's like okay you're fucking. You're you you basically basically through a spoke into the wheel and said ride your bike. <hes> now can't remove this. You can't move the stick into your spoke from your spokes but i want not to ride the back tires moving but you're fucking front tires. You fucked it. I want i agree. I want everything to fucking sixteen japan all of you that being said we really need a deputy. Come out of the gate shrum with their wednesday they actually they even announced a fucking title for it yet. <hes> i mean that's a winning dynamites tuesday night dynamite number. Just call it no oh a._w._o._l. T._n._t. Right now okay so yes so probably at all as you're going to get your name for the awa trademark or copyright tuesday night. Dynamite is what they trademarked but obviously they couldn't get tuesday because of t._n._t.'s deal with the n._b._a. Now now how i i write i write back into corn. Let's talk about a little bit of this <music> a week in w._w._e. Right we got fifteen twenty minutes left. Let's go into it. Smitty roy happened what stood out with you on raw. What was was your highlights of raw. <hes> fact that they're still giving breyer rub right now. The whole thing with jerry lawler was pretty. It was pretty sweet like i said the becky promo was sasha stuff. <hes> got a couple of good matches on there too so it was thought it was all right raw. Nothing spectacular. Nothing like nothing like man was one of the better roz. I've seen nath awhile. I i mean i can't argue it. I fully can argue that nick nick what on ross it out to you lot of the same <hes> sasha promo her with natty the becky lynch i was actually pretty pretty surprised to see braun strowman and seth rollins when titles. I'm not gonna lie. Big surprises are bad surprise. You yeah yep. It keeps it interesting. You know what i mean. I mean obviously we all think braun is going to end up facing seth at some point. That was the idea which can still happen but that's that's a curve ball. You know what i mean. The only good thing is what the tax on those guys are. Gonna your feature there for some reason or nine and featured on national daggs aims. I do hope that when they lose those titles it's back back. It goes back to galveston. Anderson was to me arcadian biggie the lesbian dude the arcadio is one of the greatest moves in professional wrestling history dallas paged aged great with diamond cutter fucking randy orton transform that fucking cutter the diamond cutter into his own purist move because it literally does come out of nowhere sometimes and when that moved truly comes out of nowhere. It's the best thing you've ever seen yeah. The listeners the fucking one on big the amazing one on seth rollins at wrestlemainia catapault his back like come on ladies and gentlemen you you can't that move is devastating but when it's out of nowhere it's oh shit. What did he come from. Yep yep biggie running for that fucking spear and then all of a sudden boom r. k. O. took was pretty nasty to that fucking three d._r. Tayo yes it was as bubba called a super three d which yet guys all them into the the cutter. I fucking loved it dude. I really loved it. I love seeing videos online of people falling owner and cubs draft and and all of a sudden somebody cuts in randy orton do an arc a._o. To them when they fall backwards and the super or when they go on on the stunner yeah those are great. I'll tell magazine was pretty good too. So while we're talking about raw right now sir could try and go forward to king of the ring matches. <hes> samoa joe defeated cicero and cedric alexander defeated samuel zane advancing into the king of the ring bracket. Is this you want. These guys are rather rather than having sammy's eighteen or sudarso advance you think it's better with joe and cedric alexander smi yeah because those are two guys it looks a lot of people wanna see feature especially cedric over the last couple of weeks what has thing with mcintyre and we all say josiah's a lot better than he's been getting me so well these are i'm glad to see events. What about you nick. I completely agree and there's the two guys i picked to win and i thought that joe and our matches one of the better night or better matches on raw for for sure yeah and cedric you know he's exciting to watch and yeah good shit got track. I'd i'd say that's good shit. Do each it. Yeah i know allegis piece of shit like you breath for breakfast mm-hmm so it talked about the greatness of sasha's promo the greatness of becky's promo. Let's talk about dominates promo a hold on the kick off with you so raise basically saying he's gonna retire all injuries blah blah blah and then dominic comes up and says tad but be true to rest with uncle array <hes> who i wanted to tell my grand your grandkids that i wrestled with do great white dude it was rough. You watch this. You listen to it. You saw it <hes> grossed out it was it was awkward. It really was and you know touching moments with your dad or your mom. That's all fine and well but it seems as long as <unk> sure. Let's be perfectly. Those are the bad touching moment <hes> but it did it felt awkward felt forced man. I'm just talking to all these like molestation. No he's not forced knowing zone when he put his hand around his neck because so he's like four feet taller these eddies yeah dumb nigga road anyway so yeah i i. I don't know i just i like it. I didn't like it all just be honest it okay did you think ray was actually going to retire <hes> no i didn't. I didn't believe it wasn't kinda believable. We speculate speculate that all the stuff that has been doing is somehow to get his son on mentally down the line in like the promos awkward awkward rough to kind of listen to the ray part wasn't so awkward is one dominant came on when i really felt uncomfortable and thought that we might be getting into the he's taking massive like oh. This is where it's happening. This is where the downward angle carl yeah is this. He is something that you want to see you. Wanna see this mass dominic. I think that'd be a cool thing because like i literally right tradition in general <hes> one one guy lease like save up to master retirement. He is onto usually a son or somebody like that. Who <hes> which is <hes>. I think that'd be a call. Moment is it is it tainted because ray at one point was hair mask on wwl kevin nash no as a matter of his his last few years in w's like there was a lot of talk when ray came from w._w._w. Was he going to have the mask or not have the mass. There was a couple years in w._c._w. He didn't have the mask really cause gnashed nash <hes> beat him whi world heavyweight championship and he had a d. masks so there yeah there were years the he did. You could totally see his face. He wrestled asks us is tainted because of that because obviously he hasn't wrestled in a mask on mainstream for are part of his career obviously the main two thousand one two thousand and two when he came in w._w._e. W. e. his mask went back on and it's now seventeen years later. I think traditional literally race everything yeah maybe a little tainted but ministerial himself has become such icon on his masters so iconic still. You still have some honoring nick. Do i didn't even know or don't even remember him being without is this something that you want to see though like the tradition of passing it on on and on w._w. Television yeah. I think it'd be that would be a cool moment and like smitty said that's part of the whole tradition is to do something like that and i don't think it's as tainted enough for me. I wouldn't thought about it until you said when i was song yeah i think that's something cool they could do. You know i've seen without his mask. You know you can do is google it but beret uh-huh like a sixteen year old lesbian chick often mass. Let's move on to smackdown back down and we will kick off with what you said. <hes> randy orton comes out cutting a promo going back to call on kofi kingston stupid and a great fucking promo and then kofi comes out to get retribution. Smitty are watching this. You're loving kofi kingston. I'll be very honest until the stuff on okay before a four summer slam and i even put a tweet out about this before summer stand for i wanted. I'm still over kofi as champion i want. I want that fucking belt on rainy right now be but because of this however no i'm sorry i want the belt off of kofi to get something for kofi to do that. Makes makes me feel like he's chasing something for it again any i want him to get it back but this is the first story the first time post summer slam. I'm that i've been in truly invested in a kofi story truly invested because i did. I think joe could've taken it off. Yes did i want joe. Ah i think joe was gonna take off them. No i don't think none of us even picked joe to win that match. You know josie but now with this accentuation post summertimes started four shows two weeks. I'm beyond fucking invested in this you mark a._o. Oh and the revival re randy and the revival shibuya. The way covy would retaliated on smackdown. Oh shit finally. I'm sinking my teeth into the story smitty. What were you thinking what was going on. I was thinking like hey covy. Accidents like a bad ass like smart baby face champion at this point. I get get we all know goofy and have fun and he's having fun and as the first time i've taken them serious as being like a long series as being serious says his fewer oregon started in a he he does look like a smart champion smart champion actually knew like sneaky and behind the order trouble in paradise grabbing a chair and delayed it to the revival it was his smart and along until the trouble in paradise is referred as the t. i._p. And then new day start walking around saying they're just going to give people the tip to. I want to see the new york. They just just the tip because the hitler boy oy. I'll actually heard anything back to you so oh. You're so you're invested. You're backing kofi kingston. Fuck yet champion or do you want to drop the belt. Now still of these run around with the belt at this point now i see him around more about how to treat this run and they treated it with a lottery back. He's been books as probably the strongest champion and in a company right now and the sam ended rain right now seventy and rain right now. He's got a good one nit. Do you still want to drive belt or did this. Make thank you want to see kofi beat randy orton more now. I still want him to drop the belt but i am invested in more than i was before summer slam now. It's like unfinished business. You you know coffee's not not that he was taking a ship before but he seems more focused in pissed and trying to get retribution shen for his brothers in the new day for his family. I didn't see a whole lot of that just the whole eleven year thing between him and randy before summer same now how post summer slam you're getting more personal. I guess so yeah i i still want him to lose but i'm invested. Share wears loose yeah if he wins die at the current moment still want kofi to drop that belt. That's the current moment. It could completely change next week. Here's why because randy is being built at at the moment moment as someone you wanna see kofi beat tech <hes>. How did the match ended summer. Semi can't count double connell so technically. He's still didn't beat randy orton right and that's what we started with <hes> zoe there. There's very strong remnants that kobe still had ah because he still hasn't beaten randy orton what i still at this moment just want him to drop that belt but rainy right now is being built in a way of what what i said heels need to be built not as go away. He'll as i wanna see the champion the u. and if randy the revival keep this going obviously the revivals facing new day at class champions for the smackdown tag team titles so very likely you're gonna see kofi verse randy orton for the w._w. Title in some sort of you know last man standing. Can't you know either away something that a double count out can't be effective so am i not not match <hes> that being said it is very possible within the next week or two that rainy could be at the point where i wanna we'll see kofi beat him and that changes the game that does and then i'll probably want kofi to hold onto that belt because until well after helena sell tall possibly royal rumble you know but they need to keep going with heels that don't make boring and and currently this is the most exciting storyline kofi kingston his head so that's w._w._e. Champs storrow storrow ross slow at the summer slam thing in these last two weeks have just fucking bone. Maybe and who knows maybe it's eric bischoff. Hey look <hes> honestly or an as kobe. White whale really has been slated. That's just my white. Will i gotta be raced it because i'm not going to say the name white will because i don't need that. Don't need the pundits may toward me moby dick. I'm gonna make a pun towards you for moby we did yeah. I really don't know how do that. You would fund away find a way. I'm literally trying to think of it while saying and i can't think of anything they have all the fucking whatever puncher mass astle. I'll be very honest. We pissed me off the most about smackdown twenty four seven situation. I think they're they try to get some of the twenty. Seven championships probably one of the most overseas all debbie television. I think they're trying to finally call it down. No i don't think that at all i think think it pissed off like we're like oh. This rainy is kofi pissing office champion good or bad. I think it's a good pissed off because you're like what the fuck i feel gypped so you wanna see it more but that's a good thing. I don't think that's cooling anything off. I think that's keeping the heat on it because when we said we've been saying it all fucking night. There's an oversaturation if we constantly that twenty four seven title being thrown around like that we're eventually going to get tired of it taking that night off. It pissed me off but because i wanted to see it so now i want to see something on monday. Now i wanna see something next tuesday. You know <hes> tooth race was gold though is so an good pissed off bad pissed off is how seems everyone felt. Smackdown ended cliffhanger. Take the hood off. Dude rohan staring at his dad nick. What were your thoughts the minute you fucking saw that fucking many what was your thought the minute you saw that with the fun komo say okay if this was attain what fuck didn't do anything right then and there for your ass over in the room right angry i talked about how how they may coach like a smart baby face and a tough baby base in this what you want roman and look like no not they're showing but sounds like this is. What are you just assaulted montage. Okay supposed to be this big final. Try to kill me. I'm being the hell out of him okay. Why are you buddy. You toss buddy murphy around he didn't do shit. You can't attack ginger dude. They're dying breed endangered now. Whatever oak eddie murphy's a gender tossed around. We buddy murphy right that kinda ties into i could not believe i believe that's the way they went with it and then again. There's also the trust the process that you asian where this could be a red herring. No pun intended sure to where it was daniel buying did and they just found something to grow into play into whatever whatever but i'll be very honest. They had me with this whodunit until this week yeah yeah i i said last week as say. This is one of the better angles they've had an accompanying now. I'm like soon as complement. The angle go do some. Could you stop complimenting things. Oh okay roman for the first but of course this followed a earlier match between the mini said daniel bryan buddy murphy nick. You're watching daniel bryan. You're watching buddy murphy. Go at it the second week in a row that buddy murphy has been out fucking standing in that ring. How are we feeling about. Are you hoping that now he's in the king of the ring to next week. He has his king match against ali. You ali another fan favorite. Did i leave just fall into it again. Do did it ali just fall into a situation where he should be getting something but he just got put put against or replaced by somebody who just got hot. I dunno where you just got. He just got replaced by somebody they got hot and and you didn't get that impression when buddy murphy came out on smackdown last night because the crowd for him was dead while he came out during the match the crowd got more into him he got more good heat on them and at the end when he won clean that crowd pop good for him so you're going to keep running with them. I like the twitter thing. They got to not exactly a he'll not exactly a face. I think he was more twitter against roman reigns and he was an teigen's daniel bryan. Yes and i think the match with roman reigns as good as that was propelled him into face status and that's why i kind of feel like ali just got dolly anything yeah anything that allie could've done in this king of the ring just went to hell because of what i'll buddy. Murphy has been involved involved in the last couple of weeks and let's be honest. The only reason buddy murphy got involved in this because some fan on fucking social media was like that looks like buddy murphy right there in that photo so w w well we gotta got him involved now and there is and now he's putting on match the year contender matches with daniel bryan and roman reigns who who again that spear the way he sold it was flipped. Yeah buddy murphy is doing things that you haven't seen with these the people that you have seen and it's making other people just as good as he is. That's the whole point of wrestling you wanna. Make your partner look great mini final thing before we sign off on this for our show. Now is who do not is. Who do you believe is going to win this king of the ring tournament the booker t. or forty seven drew mcintyre. Okay nick where you're at with that uh-huh. I would have to say drew. I was trying and hoping kevin owens would win it but obviously that shit's south window but yeah i would say drew aren't jesse goes wise w._w. Running with gingers buddy murphy and becky lynched the one show bro one per show. I ladies and gentlemen. That's actually it for us. We're gonna get outta here nationally doing show show but again it's going to be a short version of the show possibly making our w all out picks with a pro wrestling scorecards either way we are going to be gearing up to take off after tomorrow and next week show the morning after and we're going to be heading to chicago for star cast three baby come to collectors corner and see your boys always breaking down the ring. The ring crew will be at star cast at in the collector's corner as a vendor. Come and get some of these stickers. Come and get somebody's ladies car's check out. The brand new ring crew championship. Take pictures with it. Sit on sit down with us. Have a conversation about all out. Sit on on c._b._s. Moby dick whatever is is not my fault. It came up ladies so yes ladies gentlemen as a star cast. We're going to be all out as well star star cast all three days. If you want to come two days before we talk about what's going to happen at all out and you're still there on sunday. You want to sit down and have a conversation about what happened at all. How you feel a._w._s. Going to be doing link going into the wednesday night wars <hes> with an x t. We want to talk about all of that with you so come and see the collector's corner in star cast. Make sure you're following us an all of our social media's f._d._r. 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Cowboys Hoy: La situacin en Dallas con Carlos Nava, ESPN

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Cowboys Hoy: La situacin en Dallas con Carlos Nava, ESPN

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Episode 33  Mastering the Non-Financial Side of Your Fall Season   With Denis Wuestman

Wealth Done Differently - Retirement

27:41 min | 1 year ago

Episode 33 Mastering the Non-Financial Side of Your Fall Season With Denis Wuestman

"Welcome to the wealth done differently retirement podcast danielle howard a certified financial planner manner shares insight into the financial tools techniques and temperaments needed to make the most of your retirement dollars and relationships danielle genio bridges the gap between wall street and main street bringing complex financial topics down to earth danielle will educate and inspire you you as you define and refine your version of prosperity. Hello and welcome to wealth done differently retirement. Daniel howard certified financial planner today. We've got a great rape podcasts. We actually have a special guest and that is dennis. Wissmann is currently a retirement and management coach and a co founder of retirement wisdom coaching company focusing on the non financial angel aspects of retirement career and life transitions. Dennis's business career has spanned over thirty five years in various organizations primarily in financial services with with a focus on management and operations to boot. He is also a husband a father a grandfather as well as an avid bicyclist enjoys hockey cooking yoga ohka and while born and raised in new york city. He is currently residing in new jersey good afternoon everybody. How are you well. Thank you eric wonderful. Thanks for having me on today doc. I'm so excited to hear this. I love coaching in general and i know that danielle you brought him on for very specific reasons. How did you guys meet well. Well linked in as they wonderful world and i was very intrigued. I started looking at what dennis does with <hes> what he is putting putting out there in the world of walking alongside people in this transition from the whether it's a career path or looking being at what's next and i personally feel that we are aligned in the idea that it needs to be more than just drawing that line in the sand end and and looking at that traditional way of doing retirement that it can be so much more than that nice nice well dennis. Thank you so much for for for being on the show today and i'm looking forward to a great conversation very good. Thank you so am i. I want to thank our listeners for being here and i know now that you will glean some insight and wisdom from our conversation. Today i know that each one of our podcast is a little bit differently some of them dig into the financially technical aspects and many of them deal more into this quality of life and what it looks like to to truly a look at this season as an opportunity for for blooming and growth and i just wanna make sure that everybody out there knows that we don't want you to take any information asian here personally that you want to understand that your financial life situation is is truly unique and that you should have an <unk> advisor either a financial advisor or what we're going to be talking about today in the coaching world that you want people to get to know you on what's really important portent to you especially around the financial tools and techniques before you make any decisions on what to do with those aspects exit. You've built up over your lifetime and with that little bit of a disclosure. Let's dive in dennis. I'm really appreciative of view being here. Today i know that in my life at various times whether it was getting married having kids shifting careers that i have assad out wisdom because it isn't easy and coaching is has been a part of that <hes> whether it was you know when i moved from the product attic based world with the financial services into more of the the life planning a holistic approach it is hard to make change in our our life and i feel that there is a huge false narrative around what this fall season of life but unquote should look like for people people and i feel that there is a a really open door to bring this element of coaching into it so i appreciate you you kind of you know taking us on this journey of <hes> and and looking at what you did in your personal life before you could walk others. Can you share with us a little bit of your why around shifting from your former former career and and how you are walking alongside clients now in this coaching aspects absolutely that's that's a real good introduction to to to this kind of shift that happens in people's lives. My personal story on a brief had a thirty five year corporate career. I'd always wanted to retire from corporate life at early. Buck nine wasn't in quite sure what that meant to me. In traditionally late forties recalled focusing on the financial side. You know really intently. That's what most people they probably should. A new finance was number one as i got closer to age sixty and really started what i think is getting to the end of that of that corporate life is other things were starting to get in my mind. About what are the things i wanted to do. I started thinking about what i was going to do with my time and and that was my first call after thinking about this how i spend my days <hes> i didn't have many i started to think i had to go about about this slowly and walked a little bit slowly so i was very lucky. At the time not everyone is this lucky and i understand that i was able able to take a job that i was doing five days a week and i was able to make it a four day week job and that was really important to me because what it did is it helped me gave gave me time to start looking at my skills by interests values talking to people and finding out that a lot of people my age were in the same position addition all thinking about this what's next in this next part of their life. When i had come around it took me about two years and when i had come through that i had a plan i was going to do some consulting work around <hes> around things that i already knew how to do and the key here was my network. I had established established a very strong network while i was working and they helped me with this so i had some some gigs so to speak setup also allowed me to do is expand my knowledge on coach and this is how i got into coaching. I got curious that i could use the same principles of coaching <hes> to do consulting work i was doing since the lodge fodder was working teams teams and i pursued it established an accredited coaching certification and soon after took retirement coaching training and that was introduced to me by by joe casey who who is the other co founder over time the managing partner joanna colleagues and friends will go back a long way so i started a blend my own transition experience learning from others and combining. The skills values my interest into the coaching and that's where i am today thank you. I think it is so important. I know myself personally that you need to walk the walk before you talk the talk. You cannot walk somebody through a a journey that you yourself have not been on and i think it's very proud powerful. When you bring your own life skills the some of the hurdles that you've overcome or come maybe share some of the vulnerabilities that came out during this process as because many people think you know i <music>. I'm alone in this. I you know at any phase of our lives. Sometimes we feel like we're the only ones going through problems with our kids. We're the only ones going through problems with our spouses and the more were able to say no. We're on this journey together that were able to again build our build our communities and look at what a healthy transition transition into the next season of life is going to be about. I really appreciate what you said about cultivating your networks and and and looking at you know what life skills what passions you had as you looked at this transition. I i know many people out there may have looked at life coaching or business coaching at some point along the way what it is the the difference between that type of of coaching versus this retirement coaching what what exactly do you help people do well. I think that's a great question and i <hes> i'm going to step back and talk about coaching. If that's okay danielle just just two seconds here right coaching it can be very helpful with people and what we often hear a lot of shorts and that's the most commonplace we hear about it but it is also having spent and all these years in corporations. I've seen helping performance. I hope you can help you. Leaders can help people improve their work. Teams etc are are now. You have today yeah. Fitness coaches health coaches on here. The other day attrition coach college coach career coach is a lot of coaches interest but a good coach and this is where it can be very beneficial. Ask people that have had a good coach listens prods you helps you reflect slacked and builds off those insights that you have to help you set goals plans and take actions someone that you can use as as a thinking partner that will listen to your ideas challenge you to grow and frankly use some of the strengths your ready have from your past experiences daniel. You just mentioned the fact that we've all been through these different transitions right and we've had families. We don't jobs. We've done that people have been through transitional aspects excellent light before they have these skills and they shouldn't forget them. They gotta take them with them when they move forward into retirement and a good coach helps you remove the obstacles obstacles that are in your way clear thinking and ultimately hold you accountable so if you want to be held accountable something coach too key is in in in in and in many cases that you have the solutions coast just going to tap into retirement coaching i think specializes houses and his where i think it's different with different coaching it specializes in this particular phase of life in the challenges and opportunities <hes> societa with the non financial aspects of retirement and it uses unique tools designed to help you figure out how to make progress towards this probably more quickly in doing it yourself think of it as a doctor and so you got to adopt michael owen tournus for a check up at my appointment tomorrow and but if something is wrong with my right arm which it's not i may see you. Don't beat us so i look at this. I think this is such a specialist less time life. It requires a special focus it it helps china coach can help you understand your overall readiness. <hes> have you plan weld versus your expectations and ultimately what's important to you so it helps you measure that helps you identify areas that you may need to do some work on on before you retire and how can help they can help you gain clarity and confidence around your gaps and ultimately help you explore opportunities continue to grow in your time use i i would i would also say i'm not sure for everyone but it's people that really want to tap into their energies and want more from the next stage of their loss. I think that's so important that were were understanding that just as in the financial the quantitative tate of the number crunching side a financial planner isn't necessarily for any everyone but we are able to help those who want to you know build on their winds look at where there may be gaps and how to set a trajectory you know in in making some strategic dick shifts that are gonna head them in the right direction. I also believe that again so many people think that this retirement thing as a line in the sand. I'm just going to step over it and live happily ever after and i know we both encourage people to go this. This needs to be a span of time that you do a lot of of self reflection reconnection with whether it's the financial tools or from you know an element on on your side <hes> what life skills have you built over time your passions year your sense of purpose and all of that and and for me it isn't just about drawing that line in the sand dan and tapping into distribution strategy with all of your financial elements nor is that just stepping over a line and sail off into the sunset to a life of ease. I know you you post things on linked in and and we read more and more that this season of live is the life expanse. We're looking at you know possibly a twenty to thirty year timeframe for a lot of people and given that it's a it's the second lifetime it's an opportunity to really cultivate your your character assets and so much more about how you want to be a part of something. That's maybe bigger than yourself so that the the narrative that you know the financial services industry and are unfortunately our media tells us that while retirement is all just about self-indulgence and traveling the world and i think we're starting to see that but that isn't necessarily the end all be all. What do you see as some of the biggest challenges people face <unk> as they look at this transition. Yeah i think those are great points and i think when you look at the nonfinancial side of in retirement i wanna just clarify what that involves for people and then talk about some of those some of those transition challenges. It's a it it is around aspects of your life that and again you do you work in your job is working on the financial side but does these other aspects of life if that can actually actually compliment that i'm a big believer in that career work this changes happening in those areas leisure and unsocial. These are the personal growth wellness and i'm not talking about health and talking about attitude mindset family and relationships relationships so i call on a mentioned. It's these these shifts that people make in retirement. These things start to change it. Career worked changes the social personal growth. What are they going to do. We're gonna learn wh what's in the interested. In what are they find meaning the wellness how how do they take care of themselves and their families delicious and that's where <hes> you know we talk a bit about coaching and how we're the coaches focus would be a retirement coach would focus this on those particular areas and help you areas and also believe that we built financial planning. I think it's critically important and i all about that's. That's very important but i also think it's if you do the nonfinancial in line with it. It can really help complimented. I yeah i think people like that is my own people that i know in my own life right they they're going to move the family husband wife or spouse significant other decide to move somewhere the move into oh. Are you gonna time job. <hes> are you going to be giving too many chances. Are you going to be what are you going to be doing. What your vision of this party light sharing that with an advisor could help improve their whole aspect of the plant so i think there's a complimentary thing going on here really and you're so right that people <music> outliving in this whole thing that's of course a lot of this or what really brought us to where we the boomers or severe me so i'm we're heading this right right now and we are statistically in life expectancies of gone up since the since the old time i'll certainly since my parents but i think people are spending more time in retirement to i. I have like boston collins center study for retirement research as i out center for retirement research study showed that nineteen seventy the average retirement was like thirteen point six years and in two thousand eighteen point four years as chunk of time c._b._s. Huge it's huge so you have all these things going on and you have more time and focus and you should spend. I think focusing on some of that you'll see will will help you improve your odds of having more satisfying retirement so the gaps that that people it gets you first of all say one thing about we say at ten times. I have the time but timing is different. Everyone yes yes. It is different <unk> everyone so there is no one-size-fits-all <hes> there is no this is the way to do it. No i see is many people people just don't think about it a the lifestyle they spend time from ducking on the financial side hopefully before they do that and then they go off in a a lot of people. I know they go in honeymoon period and then went two years later six months later whatever it is for them. Now i do hanging around the house too much spouses. She's got frac- you're gonna find something to do. I mean it can be all these various things that aren't i'm sitting watching too much t._v. Visitor frigerator too often just right on the facebook squirrel hill you got it. You know just just on this. Maybe not some good habits so i think one gap is that people just simply aware they're not. They don't know what they don't know so. I think it's best to prepare them before you retire rather than wait till after aft- needs writing your business. You wouldn't tell people off way to your <hes> with your retirement for financial planning. I think the same thing applies plus you did the the that's one thing the other thing things a some just bullet points. Here are my mind. What do i do with my turn. Aren't you know what what do i spend my time on how and in some cases work identity. This is major allow people to big adjustment work not only defines who we are but a defines deadly structure of a lot i it is struggled with that and i have a lot of attention to that. Spending time on that structure is important. When you do today how you're gonna do it. Etc social aspects change. You are no longer no matter if you come out come company or by large within one or two months crickets this. You're not hearing from people so you got to build that network before but this big changes. You likely spend more time with your friends family so he got adopt to that. The other thing i think of his spouses significant others not being on the same page. You didn't talk you. Should it's important that conversation the other the last one i would say is change management you mentioned before this transition lies in various oughta life people go through aspects. We've all been through transitions at various life retirement. It's no different than that. The change management retirement is going to require the people to have to focus on attitude towards what this what this is like and very flexible and be become like he willing to make adjustments. I think those are the some of thus i said yeah. I think that that attitude is key to. I know i have heard that it makes a big difference when people are retiring to do something or rewiring or something instead of retiring from something in i can't wait for my last today and i can't and just that attitude of i you know looking at what is going to fill your day with purpose and meaning and again i so appreciate that you say it's different for everyone. I think so many times people think there's just a formula out there that we can put into place and that's what i love about. This business is that it is so creative and whether it's the the the 4._0._1._k.'s zero one ks the life insurance cash values the equity in your home. All of the number pieces can be used creatively and then as you're walking working alongside co clients to look at again the life skills there what have they really enjoyed doing over a lifetime time in a career and how can we build on that looking at our gig economy or different elements of winding down instead of just drawing this line in the sand. It's incredibly creative and what a wonderful way to speak into people's lives and to help them unfold their next bestself. I really appreciate what you're doing with people and and how you're doing it and i would love for people to hear ear about how to get a hold of you and you are way across on the east coast with people remotely. How are you so how are you working with folks and how can people get a hold of you. That's great. I appreciate that dorje much in those key. Things that you said about the importance of meaning meaning in the stage of our lives is very important and really pursuing. What's very meaningful to people saw. I appreciate those comments. I think the great so generally get recommend and actually i recommend people look at time. It was dot com. The website is full of of great assets books. Book recommendations nations quizzes on a nonfinancial side. <hes> workbooks newsletters lauks podcasts. We've done over thirty podcasts now and they're all with people that have some a lot a lot of them but a lot of them with people with very interesting actual stuff. We're talking about today personal stories in there that you can really relate to book recommendations nations and coaches which which one of the other thing you can do. Return dot com is if you wanted to talk to retirement coach and get a free consultation and someone to speak to do. I think it's important. Somebody kicked the tires with a shaky situation. S questions and look at options. I think those are all things that you can you can you can do there <hes> in our certainly welcome that thank you for the opportunity to mention it again. I appreciate our time together. You know having coaches to to circle it all back around. I know personally as been a valuable valuable component of any transition that i personally gone on through whether it was in my career shifting <hes> or along the line my my husband has recreated himself a couple of times and but those are the pieces that really an unpacked you now what was important to him about each new season he headed into and <hes> i love calling it. Reuirement refinement re aspire moment. We wanna look at it again. What does it look like to unfold our our next best potential and appreciate the work that you guys are are doing at retirement wisdom and if people want to look at the quantitative element element <hes> you know i dip a little bit into because i'm a financial life planner we we dip into certain aspects of this but by no means do i go as deep as what dennis does in their retirement coaching and so we can get you started in that area and then when you decide to take it to a next deeper level you know as we walk alongside folks in dealing with the quantitative number crunching side. We've got other other folks out there that can help help you with the with the qualitative side of it to reach us afford a personal journey of financial health. You can do that at wealth by designed number four letter u dot com. If you want to download some of my financial affirmations or look at some of our online courses mrs workbooks etc complementary resources that are out there. Additional podcasting blogging can find those at danielle howard word number four letter u dot com. We appreciate your engagement. We look forward to walking alongside everybody as they look at this new season to make the most of it. I just want to thank you. I think this was great and really enjoyed. I appreciate it very much. I loved listening entity. You guys because both of you. The entire theme for this was all about relationships is what i kind of took out of it and that's i think that is what both of you do so so well <hes> and i just i just love that about both in and what you have to offer even though they are not exactly the same. They're very much knit together and go hand in hand so that's fantastic tastic daniel. Thank you so much. This is a great podcast. Thank you for bringing dennis on you are welcome and again appreciate both your time and thank you for listening to the wealth done differently retirement podcasts with daniel howard. 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136 - Should We Be Worried About Mitt?

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136 - Should We Be Worried About Mitt?

"Hey what's your talking. What are you gonna wash pal. Do you got to do this. Hugues again cloud those. You're cleaning the legos off the ground from your room midday you still hover while shaving your jobs. Yeah no i have not good. That is impossible if you saw how high my sink was. Are you working. The cameras are just keeping them on this. One shot the entire. They're never start before the damn song a step stool further fucking sink. Yeah he does. The captain morgan. One leg up. I'm kinda worried about mitt to be honest to do after today. Fucking yeah a little hit from the tv waterpipe and does that for forty five seconds in a row actually. It was probably longer than that. It was like three minutes and it was like. Hey do i need to call nine one one four you like are you doing. Why are you okay mitt. I was scared. I know you. Okay are you okay. You know that actually just really fucking don't know got five minutes. Yeah i think i was gonna die for liquid death stewed. Wow that was going up yourself out. My god bit fucking work. Almost burned down the office again. What was this. What music named vic buddy Still gone. He's still on vacation still names. I didn't enjoying the weather. Enjoying the weather is gone as well. Awesome joint looks. Nice down there today and i woke up seventy five degrees yesterday. I'm driving with six inches of snow blowing in my face this morning. It's in wild. I'm i'm about sick of it but welcome to the pot. Yeah conner's here we go small. Talk your thank. You need to get right into this brand to your sales guy is just. He's a scumbag. Burned down the office earlier. I think you have the picture was. You can barely see the damn thing to be honest. It looks like a piece of poop there. You can't really tell what it is. Mitt put hotdogs in the air fryer while he was hitting the city water fights. Yeah apparently forgot they eat. You don't need to cook hotdogs for forty five minutes. The fire almost like exploded. So what do you have to save yourself you buffoon. Defense opening day washing the yankees game have some money on the yankees during all my parleys to top of the ninth. They retire cheese. Ill again look win. trash heap. Mummified look at it. That is take a bite out of it. You have to know. Oh jeez dick terrifying that has been in the trash. I am not gonna fuck taking place taken by everybody trash clean. Do detail about a thirty minute rule when it comes to germs. Besides you knew that thing so far gone that no germans living on ever. Now i see so it's got hot even better shaped trashing. See i am worried about this though because there's no way he's not like making a fucking jack's pizza at home and just get going straight up to the moon and then like fallen asleep on the couch. The paul might burn dalek. There's legit possibility. I know how to set a timer on an actual oven. I have no gladys timer on ethics. You fall asleep on the couch. Every fifteen minutes zave. Oh yeah and we are balking. Keep going off. And they're all unscrewed the puck to do maybe change batteries on. Here's the thing. She might be some intervention There might be some divine intervention. Those things he'd gone off they know the kind of person that you are exactly and the floor so thin as we know. I think there's a possibility is calling from downstairs alarm house since because it's actually pretty funny. You say that because we did have a problem like last year around this time with our downstairs. And everybody's not there anymore. As i found out he's gone places empty so there's no one message for that one. Oh true that actually would raise so much damn sense though code. Oh yeah go. What's a code of that put Also gonna be here. Nobody was a to something something. I saw members. And also just a huge this obviously. He's not actually his body is somewhere else. I feel good friday. Does anybody have anything. They want to get off their chests. I mean i'm feeling pretty good. Going into the week was amazing amazing. I'm going to watch it this weekend. And can we definitely need to get back here. So he can zilla a gut reactions. E without spoiling anything fucking hit fire. How was it lives up to what all the everything talked about it. It lives up to everything. Will there be another movie after this. Yes what was your favorite part. May it was in the commercials. The water fight scene was pretty good on the boats. Yes that's far as i'll go do what happens. How long was it. If i don't know i'm gonna guess to thirty. It was like an a two and a half hours five. Oh wow that's how glass you walk. See at one point out looking at and i was like there needs to be more but i guess there was only an hour forty five. The whole thing didn't fall asleep. And i thought it could have been a lot longer to really very good. It was awesome. Do have a feeling we flew. It was going to be in your sleep meters. Great sal movie to contribute to what zito said like the first half the movie kind of drags on and got a little bit. The last half is pay off our three for bill. De kind of stunk is what you're i remember. There's always a up everything that build up as what side you're on you can also pre pre roll of titles and everything. Yeah but if you're saying this is what a hundred five minute movie and you're saying basically it stinks. I mean that's not really selling this. Bill obviously didn't really like it. Then it was really good man. I watch cartoons and pirate. So i just don't know where really the game this is hard. I forty fifty minutes build up to like a whole story. Their story and then it just becomes. Did they bring back. Taiwan land assertive. Say all game long with either skogen ipad like here. He was right there. I mean i watch it. Obviously i'm gonna watch it. But i have heard that it stunk. No so i liked. It was amazing. Millie bobby brown million bra falke broads. Cousin at brown cool facts about actually plant is not rod up and something opening day and questioned the pod fahd by the way over yet is described to the youtube and do all that stuff the ball. What's worse when driving aggressively sneezing or taking off a tight sweatshirt. i mean you know. I mean roy trip and you start sweating. Everyone knows you go. You go one arm for sweater. Quick pop over. And that's the sneezes. The worst i'd say needs to especially if you have no control if it's aggressive sneeze. Yeah and if you're gonna fucking crash your car eighty on the highway. Yeah fucking chain sneezing and every two seconds twitching more nascar drivers don't crash because of that because not sneezing or anything like that. No general wants. They sudafed during his own though. Wait society can't sneeze. Yeah that'd probably loaded up on every like antihistamine in the world before they get into that fucking car really also. They're like next door locked in place so even if they just go off. Losing vision millisecond brain aneurysm. And you take out cars. He drove to pit road. they said he sees. I don't know. I mean. I'm really wearing a super tight sweatshirt when there's a situation for the sweater thanks so you're you're traveling from down. South went vacation. You're driving back up north or the other way around would never you read it. You get hot halfway through the drive tone over like you have a long drive ahead of you like. I'll give me my tight sweatshirt. Cold us get in the car for every you know fucking cold war crime. it dude fronting the hypothetical. I'd rather sneeze. Because i don't wear tight switchers okay. Brian lead not enough though. I mean i'm okay with saying okay. You know eventually. Stop a gas station here. If i'm if. I'm a little hot right now. Just crank the gets ask station. We'll be okay. I mean i'm not trying to fuck and drive off an overpass because we'll take your oils lease exactly but sneezing is that you up. Can't do next. Do you say watermelon together to your sneeze. No i turn on the light. The in between i put my face right up to it really. It works every time it goes away freely. I'm roofing math that your tongue to exactly what did you say. Did you ever just like blind yourself. And then you can't see the winds right now. She's just looking into the light of the road. Chevron is blocking. You're only doing it for a second. I'm not looking into the sun either for can do you guys like the sun blocker and then move it to the side i saw today. Sometimes you go side on hinge side to know when to work in the morning and is over there. Yeah inside and block sued coming. This bothers you while you're driving though. Yeah if i don't wanna put my shades on. Or i left him at home or something. Or if it's just fucking could help you tinted. No but it's like what. what's your still dropping. Do you have the extender on your. And i don't i'm pissed. Are you fucking extending dude. You pull it back and then you plastic side. Yeah extra inch that you. I mean covers the whole one. Believe me you'd need for a year. I have not used that fucking thing once. I'm not even brought that thing. Don you'll bring it down wait till the summer. He'll be bringing a letter envelope up put in there. That's the only thing. I use it for off the mirror. They'll never if i'm looking at stuff. I use the fucking middle thing. It's true that's fair enough. No hey hey that's why we're here ever wants last longer in bed but counting backwards from one hundred or singing. Mary had a little lamb. Doesn't always work out for the folks at roman an online mental health. Care changing the game with roman swipes. The secret to longer batter sag wrote was a convenient clinically proven that will be last longer in the packaging. 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We can introduce you guys fucking sales guy right here with the. He's robert timer. That had guy down to smoke and he actually had that tattooed across. Don't you co concert. City and i mean this guy has his in air walkers on every day because he has just floated through this place just bouncing around above everyone else say. Hey listen i get it. It's friday liyang dude. We need you to back down to earth so layoff guys got carry oxygen day. He does i know. But that's the thing is like an you know. Compared to brad is like cheech and chong say there's levels in levels until you're reaching fucking up in the cloud. Yeah going home every night with his. Cbd and filling an eight foot volcano bag saw times. I've actually been able to wait this. You know up close. The person is impressed. It is but the kid you know he's gonna run out of brain cells all of a sudden he's just going to be you know mitt. That's what i said. I'm worried up in kenya by the. Oh yeah shot that guy careful with his buddies. Twenty eight hours later woke up in nairobi. Kenya where's mid at africa. Paul bostick next this guy. I don't know who this is from. But he just wants to say it's not tone deaf. Dig slander in black. Sails is a god. Damn shame just started watching it and it's fantastic plenty of talbot's and violence. Wt well now. I was also slander in this thing. Quite a bit as well does in fact stink. Yeah so sorry. I mean i'm sure there are plenty of dump in violence but you can find that damn near anywhere to know now. What listeners are watching bouts violence. We're talking about it fantastic. I was gonna say. I need a little bit more than a guy getting his head. Cut off with a sword and boobs alexsandr interest. okay. I'm close right there. Yeah you gotta pick my what you need to sell me a little worried by attention. He did it for. did that. Checklist up. I heard you. Are you turn me on the house. Anyone else in here. Watch black sails. No i have. But i was so long ago. I can't remember smidge it so i do. Think the show stunk you say. Have you started watching this or you. Just watch the documentary on netflix. No i just watched that documentary and a bunch of people keep tweeting are tweet tweet to watch block sales on my show stupid. I think you would like it my memory if you like pirates dude you might like it is full wash. Know i just kinda think fictional i. It's hard for me to get into fictional stuff that's not like fucking like godzilla vs karmic. That's fucking sweet pirates fictionally. It's kinda dumb. Took care of caribbean. Yeah no. I love jack sparrow. But i don't think you. Jack sparrow in Fucking black sails. You said it sucked anti inside. Tony usually likes everything so oh checkmate was sink thinned. Pretty good did say no watch. Do you still episode yet adding okay. I was just wondering. I hadn't watched community though charities. Very joe actually yeah. It's pretty good what's community. It's it's about the people who going to community college. it's dole. Mikhail love glove shea. Chevy chase anti pootie op-ed haven't gone to the allison brie. Yeah chevy's back. Allison british ship relations. What's it on nbc. But it's on. Tom's netflix's yeah. Peacock is like everything on fleeces on peacock. Yeah because they have like a zik. Yeah do it anymore. I three seasons of it. I'd say incredible. What's once once it made because it went from. Nbc to hulu right. Yeah and then like it was on yahu or something. Those later seasons were kinda. I'm actually about to start diving into parks and rec. You've ever watched it. Everyone everyone that. I know that's ever seen it. They've always said you need to get in there. So my favorite game is chris pratt. Become a superhero literally comes in like maybe two ninety now. That's a lot. But he was like three hundred se like in the show. They're like yeah. He worked out this summer. That was the whole thing. It is really good. Probably stop watching it though. No you know just taking notes seriously. i don't. i don't think i know after three seasons. Nothing's turning right. Because i will still say the a two part season finale. I think of the second season of that. I think it's like one of the best hours of tv. It's fucking awesome. They do a good job of like jet like the way they wrote people out of the cast and stuff like that actually kind of makes sense in the show. But like yeah. The overall quality goes down quite a bit but the first three seasons are okay. It's it's worth twenty minutes. It's worth watching episodes of classic hysterical. Good show it is good show next. What type of character would you like to play in a horror movie. Personally i'm going with whoever dies in the opening scene always remember pearl survivor. Slut killer drunks. Toner met tough tough-guy person who is shy. Even when they're with their friends love the show. Thank choose a tweet. Those i mean. They're just they're not the archetypes fucking build your own. Ron jesus owner prod dude mid slash. Brian is what they don't want the survivor. We're going to go the guy that lives the simple pick. There is some legend to play like in. Scream the killer's and screen skeet. Mettler in yeah share was wasn't he screamed. Swallows sticking his fingers office. You told you pleaded my room. Are you putting your dick. the vacuum. That isn't all time it's tough. I mean if we're talking about a horror movie it's tough not to go with the survivor. because usually that's going to be the big star there in the movie the whole we're talking docker mcconnell's like i don't know like i get memorable death scene but outside of fucking what johnny depp and nightmare on elm suggests gives a shit. You said that wrong. It's memorable death. Remember remember the correct. Hey i'm just trying to help you if you're in a tv show you die in the pilot. Nobody fucking remember you. It's a horror movie notable. 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Because someone's not home. When was the last time anybody here rang a doorbell. I think there's messages from nineteen ninety-five spurs it. His actually twelve years old. And they're riding the bike paths. That was the last time you have to rent for rare doorbell. One fuck now. You call the person but i'm just saying it's not ring it. Yeah got to knock door. Don't be the about eighteen times. Do you make a song make the knock and then every a there is a secret. Knock probably in either way. That sounds like a familiar friend. Exactly that guy. I can't remember the last time. I was in a situation where i went up to someone's house and knocked a couple times. I was like oh. Well i definitely rode my bike. That person's house last time. I did that like five. Yeah exactly ten years. Probably since college and went home because kim do coalition that situation. You're not knocking now. Yeah he's walking in ball. Ugly brian on the couch next mitts ex to ask pod fahd. 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Right you put him right. Dead crowd plot. I wish i could name ted nugent song right now but stranglehold. It's already worse. Yeah great great music. I believe i mean top five rappers or music in bands. We're just doing individuals of babies as definitely on their doubt about it. Kanye and wayne on it and fifty seven on their in notorious. B i g on this just doing rappers rap or musical artists. I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna stick because you know it's too open ended. If you make you put big here to puck on it. I put big not to back. I'm just gonna probably I was either gonna snoop dogg. Snoop dogg really it. Better producer snoops. Aber are we saying drake are. We saying dray said gerais. Okay okay. I hear things. Okay h. no drake on my. I know he's number one on your tracy. Yes be yes i mean. Give me fucking mars and then just lists arrest was cheering. Maybe the weekend. I mean he needs to come out with another banger soon. It's been a while that several lakes fucking fire. It was emberley takes away easy way off of. Et has to be in the top. How soon put up there off. We're getting into everywhere. Joe joe casey. Gioja biglaw guy. I love. I think everything they do. Sweet okay very old. I'm a big big. Big big tribe called quest full. Sixty five now alad. I put them on their music. They have they have by their music. Sure there's no way that songs. Why eiffel seventy four. But somehow they don't make dj pauly d. Da brick bitch. You're not putting him on. John john drake five times. Yeah probably i would take drake five times money. Baggio trick dozen eight zero drake songs zero thai stream. I'd take off because that's crazy house hero drake's every album is at least good. I don't know. I only know about one drake's on because pat says he said my name in. That is one of them john kerry. I heard that to go. It's six nine showed up to this your your nba. Young boy guy right. Weren't you say day. Kind of stinks. Which which. Drake song is tony brandon hotline bling. It's the one where he gives the money away plan man. That's great tom. Cool video to kuwaiti. I mean you gotta put callard on here. Calendar saudis put fucking red. Hot chili peps. We were talking. You know if we're talking bay. Obviously jane eddie. You're going to be right at the fuck and chance the rapper. Yeah definitely there with next talk. No chance down rapper. bill okay. Did you read this. I did not did you. Marry is based on. This headline hacker sought forty million dollar ransom fertile. Florida school district for a teacher student data like this but taking data worth forty million dollars. What is our data worth these days fresh social security number men who here right i mean. This is releasing personal student and teacher data. So they're asking for forty mil. Okay well what type of data does school district keep. Their grades probably did how. Why is that worth forty mil. Walters got that kids pool. Got it in that class. So the ransom was dropped to fifteen mill if the if the district pay. Bitcoin replied back. Pick this lunch box. Hold on the addresses data. Birth and other information and the school rap was like. We don't have forty mil but we can give you five hundred grand helpless to them. Obviously they don't have forty system is tallahassee. That's the superintendent was like. Hey dip shit. This isn't a bank atm. Nine team hacker here are you have always. Yeah but it's like giving them money pay. I mean do this the fucking state farm or something like that. Yeah thanks case from obagi. Not suggesting any. Don't do that do that by way. Don't do it. Seems like other hackers upset because it's against the code like whoa. Yes he did now. This is some serious black hat hacking your act the grades. Yes but if this water is not dumb dog sites on through the hack watches me. We are very good. Okay good to now. It's on matters. Fbi agent in the hack friend. Both sides of the law on missing rooster some wisconsin restaurants offering thousand bones to get its giant rooster back cockpit back to good bulldogging that is i was wondering that. That russert doesn't seem that big. I mean that bulldog you know. I mean it's basically halfway up Thing is is that fucking. Is this georgia dome. Wisconsin cheese curd dog though. That's what they breed fucking sweet. I would definitely buy for thousand dollars. All of us can get more money probably. Yeah anyway back. No no things awesome. That's eight million. Twelve feet tall. Four feet one. Yeah i know how. Schools data fabu nine dollars. Cock is only a grant makes no sense. Well because they know in different parts of the biggest common for him in that branding piece. I mean if you see that thing you're pulling over and you're getting my god that is cool pop. Yeah exactly this place else. I'm sure it has cheese. Skirts to probably wisconsin. Obviously barna. Maybe bird adult kamal. Jack hotdogs like mitt was making. That's right french fries burgers burgers on the grill new shakes at a place like next buffalo luxury madness maker mattress maker impose mind control on staff. I mean austin. The i saw they were doing. We're video an absolute wild. Got dumber but be careful because he might end up. Mind-control u z already have been forgotten language baby. Exactly what if this guy makes you him. You read this though showing people bidding. Who killed their ration- behind him. There's one thing about like. When he was vetting the clients would like like dude. Do some sort of like word trick or something for like fifteen minutes to me. Wants to see if they have like a proper brain and if they for his control or whatever and if they did it he didn't get the job basically. Fuck him over. Austin's yeah austin. Jesus back on this guy's face please take. Is he something that while you show pumped in another store. It looks like it's the ribbon. His tongue is hanging out of his mouth like a spaghetti. Wig these guys or ladies here. Who's mind control all of them. All of them the right books. I don't know what i'm going to. And i would imagine. This guy has a david samson. Ask laugh then he quit. Command is left strain of go. Kill the prime minister of the nation next turkish police agency torres girl during car search z. You sent this in. Did you can look at this. I saw that i. I'm only what he called a headline reader jason. What what are you thinking fucking national treasures baby national photo. While you're fucking ruin the speed light. They did say this thing was two thousand years school that they would ever seen pilot of thousand years of it ends up. Being real may have been read at the first ever mitzvah and they also think it might be time for have been found the college before and they've got like a tip that's how they found. This crow was some guy called was okay. There's this fucking agents grow in the back of a car in a pocketbook inbetween close inside of the seal and then they open. It found this fucking thing but my bets on it being fit. Was there a turkish guy. like falcons. Smoking has she shouted one of the pay out. They did not have any macho of these people. But i assume the students cage outside talk about turkish golds up a couple of thousand dollars. Scroll in the scroll about. This looks like a book. Some sort of teaching on there. I'm sure scroll you gotta fuck. Scroll it open. Bro book A stone slab. Maybe a stock photo tuesday. Oh from macleod fucking detective. We'll get the fucking okay if this is the real photo than yeah this things fake but i think this is stock photo from the last time that looks like a burrito in the back of the guy's car obviously parking fake then that looks brand new. The book looks great. It looks like the bulk allies a week. What are you bob. Walking papers are those like they would be like super yellow with i mean. I don't know this is probably bullshit. If i guess we. Everything's bullshit the new york post podcast for crying out loud. They got the biggest story. Says the guy who's living in the big we're back to. We put the end of the earlier fourth brat. The suez canal cargo ship. Blockage was blamed on curse of the pharaohs off. I did yeah. I did look into this a mummy the ap apparently they are moving. Twenty two mummified kings and queens to like some new exhibit and they said like hey listen. You guys are focused supposed to happen. I don't know what it is. And then we'll behold some guy you know like mitt got it that thing in the suez right and the sad. But i think it's out now. Isn't it this Ever given as ever clear. Yeah so i mean does it even matter anymore so this is the scientists no harm. No foul no locus. That is the egyptian rant from drastic parties on the catholic ship. I don't think that's the captain. It may have champion. Wasn't lady really yes doesn't research. Let's say she's gone. They have not talked reasonably guppy. So yeah kilter this might be fucking the inside the stevedores union. But if something like that happen like when you told you said last week like that. Shrimp boat crashed into. The i mean what are they are a couple of workers taken that guy back and just put into the back of his head throwing them into the ocean or what. Yeah they're usually bill escort it out right away. Like i one time there was a cruise so when the cruise ships came in the workers were still on the bow and this one guy on a cruise ship so they would go out at night and you'd be working on the side of the ship like two three in the morning. They're all stumbling down the fucking dry dock. This one guy somehow got on the wrong side of the bench and got stock in printable bush's and web in leg car wire fence the he was shipped. 'em out that night kicked off. The cruiser dude is wrong. who's three. Am all we could hear was plucking screaming electric. Would you saw those people coming back from a night out all girls in high heels trying to walk on the rapid shit. It was awesome. Everyone's just piping other. What i experience that is absolutely you gotta get volunteers injury drinking my ties. It back our vacation days. Where the best i. It was like seven day. You're able to go out and it was just a shit. Show dan island. Yeah that's awesome jamaica fifty cent beers when you work on the ship to my word to. You weren't allowed to sell my brother when he did he was. That's situation would happen with cocktails. Because every time you get back on the ship you gotta go through all the security and shit like through a metal detector so like you know the people doing it. So he's my bottle. I'm bringing my bottle. 'cause there's a the sales taxes there's no sales tax i guess and So you get a bottle of like jack for like eight bucks. Maybe and then it's like twenty two dollars over what i'm saying. I first for a lot cheaper and the booze on the ship obviously not was four hundred dollars alcohol pass or get ill use it for like certain drinks drinks sir. Thank you you him to greece. Do do me a fucking break john. Eight miami vices walking new. I'm going to run out of drinks. Twenty five four. Okay go back and pass out not to bring a bottle of something on the ship. So i had a little. You know t was to go out there in the room but you brought a bottle on the ship. Yeah your ally to as part of the now twenty eighteen. yeah. Allie was also thinking. Oh it's time now. I cruises are sweetened. Brian been on a cruise. Yeah as a kid. But i don't think i would go back on. It's not brown. Never say never did. Send your follies. All the air goes room to room right in. I it goes over the next. Get one of the rome room sucked in your about cruise crop dusting underwater. So to be awesome if i could take a huge dump and one of those toilets. You buffet for lunch. I hate operating on someone else's schedule. I wanna come and go nine. I forget one time. I went on as oh seventh day. Maybe and i went parasailing. But i hit the buffet before i left and eight so much food so much food. I was used to beat on both. But we're on the smaller boat. Like with the paris deal i remember. I took two pizzas three burgers paris. I pair so cute all over the place de face way a person because it's a crew pair south related extra like you back to the boa game over the heart is a little bit smelly but but the pair selling fucking thing us fucked up. That's awesome food where you go pear sally by the way next shit up. Yes whoa hold on. No thanks man. I'm not trying to john empire state building. Yeah not a chance. Not all way. Isn't there a good chance someone jumps off this thing. It just smacks their head and killed instantly for first time. Probably because i doubt it's best pause what can go wrong. Breathe for massive like twenty. Hit just alle. Because i've seen those fucking things grow always back like i. I'm bridges right because of that factor. The new back into the wall. Like someone's going to be working on tuesday like the dark knight all be insane. Hi tom wow. This would make for great entertainment though because like i lived a five minute. Walk away from the empire. State building whether the manhattan. It'd be great just fucking walkout look up and just see dumb ass people swinging and smacking off the inside of the building. Oh you this cost. And one hundred fifty. I was even thinking of that. Three hundred bucks. Five hundred bucks. This is the vip package allow cocktails after he before. Before you need about ten booze. 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The Nashville Way

The Promise

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The Nashville Way

"Thanks for listening to this podcast. If you'd like to support this work, you can make a donation at WPRO DOT org. This episode of the promise is sponsored by Quaver Ed creators of music based social emotional learning lessons that empower teachers to help kids flourish in school and in life learn more at quaver dot com. Previously on the promise. Boys and girls I want to welcome you to school on is beautiful one day. There is no other term to describe it but black and white rich and poor I remember feeling like. God like are we going to do this again like another? Generation. Redo it again. No. We. Can't. Some? People are in denial. About how fish is it were I say integration fantasy repair thicken be stopped anywhere Nashville been just say okay. Desegregation was thought here. The school was bombed. I was spat on. In this in that. America is not comfortable dressing race. Irene really addressing it. We just wanted to be able to feel the American. Life. While I was reporting this story. I got my hands on a copy of a grant proposal that Nashville school sent to Washington DC years ago in two thousand seventeen, they wanted millions of dollars to recruit more white families to warner elementary by turning it into a magnet school. I hadn't made it past the first page when I saw this quote. 'em. NPS has a rich and proud history of school desegregation dating back to nineteen fifty seven the same year as the Brown v Board of Education Decision and quote. I nearly choked on my coffee. For one, they didn't even have the year right Brown v Board was decided in nineteen, fifty, four, not nineteen, fifty seven and even more agree jus-. They'd rewritten history to make it seem as though Nashville had integrated its schools right away and eagerly, the district couldn't be more wrong and frankly most of the city seems to forgotten all this too. But then again. It's the victors who write history isn't it? While, let's tell the real story of school desegregation in Nashville and in this country. Because the truth is Nashville's leaders fought against integration at every single turn. You're listening to the promise the podcast from Nashville public radio. I'm Marvin, night this season on the promise we take on one of the most contentious topics in America what has been deemed as the great equalizer, but more and more feels like the great divider. Public Education. In this episode, we're going back to the early days of this battle for racial equity in the classroom back to the time. Not that long ago when school desegregation literally blew this city apart. Episode to the Nashville Way. In nineteen fifty, four, the US. Supreme Court's ruling on Brown versus board of Education established that segregated schools violated the US Constitution. Giving way to the dismantling of segregated classrooms, black families across the country believed, they would finally have access to equal education. But in truth, the High Court's decision was hardly the end of racially divided classrooms in Nashville, more than a year. Later nothing had changed. The schools were just as segregated as they were the day, the courts gavel cracked. That is Intel one man stood up and decided to make change. On September sixth nineteen fifty five as e Kelly a self employed barber walked his fourteen year old son Robert to the neighborhood high school East Nashville Hi but because Robert was black and the school was white easy and his son were turned away forced to walk home empty-handed in the late summer heat nationals director of schools had given white principles, explicit instructions not to admit any black students to their schools. It was clear. The city wasn't going to integrated schools willfully, but as easy was tired of his children having to commute across town for school passing a white high school in a white elementary school. On the way he was tired of them getting second hand books already marked up by students. Tired of classrooms. So poorly lit children work on cloudy days. Tired of his children's teachers making half of what their white colleagues made tired of it all. This was not simply a moral issue. This was about equity as long as black children and white children were separate nothing would ever be equal. and his black children deserved better. It was four ounce. To. To. Scramble was the oldest south. Set. As Junior Mrs. Third. You can save as babe. Those are the daughters easy Kelly. Ellen and can Zeta. They're much older now in their sixties and seventies but they remember this time well, segregation and the fight to dismantle it shaped their youth. As he was an active member of the N. double, ACP local chapter and before walking Robert to school that day, he'd been meeting with two prominent black attorneys there Z. Alexander Lubi, a brilliant legal mind from the West indies and his protege. A young bellicose lawyer from KNOXVILLE. Named Yvonne Williams. which is how Robert as eldest son came to be the named plaintiff in Nashville Desegregation Lawsuit. Robert Kelly Versus Board of Education twenty two other families joined the case all from the same mostly black neighborhood of these Nashville. But it was easy who stepped out as the public face of this lawsuit and bravely placed his son at the top of the complaint filed September Twenty Third Nineteen. Fifty Five and. The fact that all these families lived in East Nashville just two miles from the Tennessee state capitol should not go unnoticed. Because Warner is an East Nashville. Block island elementary to. The very same neighborhood wrestling with re segregated schools today. Is the same neighborhood that spawned nationals fight over it almost seventy years ago. This case divided Nashville it led to a school being bombed, and it betrays Nashville's racist passed a city that resisted integration every step of the way. Well. We always bless our food before we. So I'M GONNA. Let my sister do that. She's elder. Dear Lloyd. We thank you again for another day. We thank you for the opportunity to be with family and friends. We thank you. Dear God, for the food to nourish our bodies in Jesus name we pray Amen. Today sixty, five years later were sitting around the. Kitchen table eating a lunch of sweet tea and Turkey sandwiches it's just before Thanksgiving and consider already has ten foot flocked Christmas tree setup decorated her sister. Ellen is here to be there the last living of the Kelly Children Robert died of stomach cancer in two, thousand five it was like a it was an equal education and our conversation feels like an important reminder because America is reckoning yet again with our original sin. How we've plundered black and Brown. People since the founding of this country, how the pain and horror of the civil rights movement was not as many white Americans like to tell ourselves. So long ago, it's still very much alive and that just like in policing and the criminal justice system the foundation of education sits squarely and securely on racial inequality. Segregation was an architecture and to pull it apart brick by brick was a grueling endeavor. White families derailed the process city officials worked mightily to resist it and black families like the Kelly's sacrificed for. One recounts the Kelly family refused to accept the status quo. Just, wanted to be able to Lille. The American. Life. As we've been told it was supposed to be. When the lawsuit was filed just weeks after the first day of school life for easy changed instantly. He was a known quantity now to white Nashville as was his son and as popular downtown barbershop was immediately targeted every weekly in. His barber shop windows would always. Be Brit someone with throw a brick, he would have to replace a window. Every weekend this went on for years but he never wavered he was a determined man. He was also a man of many skills, a barber, a navy man, a mortician, a dry cleaner. He was dapper lean and handsome, and he had a fondness for sharp suits and pocket squares and rather than do anything rash he simply kept quiet cap placing windows and stayed the course shielding his younger children from the battle he and their brother were fighting on their behalf when I remember most dad was gone a lot. Conceived was always in as. Office or meeting with the attorneys know. Daddy never came home and talked about this case. Never. We never knew what was going on lease at least I did okay. No neither neither. Automatic because and I do believe she was trying to protect us now was twenty. Two. Twenty three years old when I found out what my daddy did. I was teaching school the School Secretary for or whatever reason had this this book on her desk it had Kelly versus board of Education. And I looked at it and I said Kelly versus board is fish and I kept reading. It was in depth what my father had. That's when I found out my dad. and. As I did more research into this case and story I realized how present it once how much it colored what is happening right now? These battles are not over. Not when schools like Warner Lachlan exists so racially isolated, they look no different than schools did when the Kellys filed their lawsuit. I knew I didn't have a chance of really understanding this case and its scope unless I saw for myself. Okay Um. We are headed to Georgia. Buckle up. A four hour drive from Nashville at the National Archives in. Oh Georgia is where the Kelley case file is now held. Cuba decided. Okay. How can I help you say? It's twenty seven boxes or an archivist lingo twenty, nine cubic feet meaning if you put all the papers on a shelf, it would spin that far. I met by Ansley Erickson an assistant professor of education in History at Columbia Teachers College. So Nice to me. Of course I. Understood Erickson was gracious enough to come all the way from New York to meet me here, and it's because she knows these archives better than anyone short of the lawyers and the judges frequently there are ten thousand page transcripts. So there's a lot of paper here. Yeah. Ericsson is a willow softspoken woman with an endearing sense of calm about her she wrote a book called making the unequal metropolis. In it Erickson argues that Nashville desegregation battle held great potential. But as black families in their legal counsel fought the city on integration and one Nashville always from its mayor to its police to its businesses to at schools favored white families over black ones. When I first came across Erikson's book the title alone struck me it was so direct. So boldly, honest. And always thought of Nashville as one of the more progressive southern cities, the moderate among moderates. It likes to think of itself as such, but after reading had a very different opinion. While Nashville wasn't Birmingham or Little Rock, it fought integration just like all the others in later years, the city would vigorously undermine in fight against integration but in those first years after Brown v Board as if it was stunned Nashville, simply refuse to budge. It did as little as possible as slowly as possible with as few resources as possible and. Eric explains after as e in the plaintiffs filed a lawsuit in nineteen, fifty five, the city took more than a year to come up with a plan for school desegregation. Nashville was a champion of gradualism. In desegregation. The city would begin with just first grade in nineteen fifty seven, which would mean that only at twelve, the whole system was going to in any way attended segregated school. At maximum and nineteen, fifty seven and that everybody who was older than six and nineteen, fifty seven would still have a fully segregated at. The. End Lacey Pe- lawyers Z. Alexander Lube an Avon Williams pushed back against this filing motions argument hearings taking. Years to integrate schools was not the deliberate speed. The Supreme Court outlined in it's ruling on the Brown case. By this time though wight supremacists or there's had descended on, Nashville one in particular had spent the preceding months in jail cell in Clinton Tennessee. Talked about man and Clinton. John Casper or Washington DC. Frederick John Casper incited such violence over the desegregation of Clinton high school that it forced the national. Guard. Descend on the small town. He was jailed by a federal judge for continuing to incite violence in Clinton even after a restraining order was issued. In Casper was released, he traveled to Nashville to do the same here. Say Integration can be reversed it can be stopped anywhere. Provided an attack was made everything nettle casper was a protege of the poet Ezra pound who is known more for being a fascist and anti Semite than racist. But Casper had decided to carve out his own niche since coming to Nashville, he'd been holding near daily rallies anywhere from three hundred, fifty, two, thousand people were showing up among them were the Tennessee White Citizens Council in the Klu Klux Klan. Some came from outside Nashville but the vast majority were parents of Nashville School, children? In the weeks leading up to the first day of school, they threatened principals and district officials telephoning them personally to say, they'd set fire to their homes and in at least one instance they tried. They promise violence and school bombings if the district followed through with its plan. Quote blood will run in the streets of Nashville. Casper told crowds. Fresher down here. Is More or less Mike Lynch stick dynamite. Mom. In the meantime, the city's attorneys working just as diligently the more quietly unofficial ways for white families to avoid integration. Ericsson explains only black people who lived in aside zone for historically segregated white school. Could apply to go to that historically segregated white school. An only presumably white people who lived in zone of a historically segregated black school could apply to go to that school in other words only slivers of the city those which already had black and white families living near one another were even eligible to integrate. On. Top of that parents were given the option to opt out and white parents did. All of them. As they wrestled with this plan, the city's officials and school board. Spoke disparagingly of desegregation dismissing it as a quote new interpretation of the Constitution. A situation that needed to be managed grudgingly. Inevitably though on September ninth nineteen, Fifty, seven, the first day of school finally arrived, but the exceptions and the Gerrymandering had whittled the number of children down to just a handful of courageous black first graders ultimately on the first day of school in September nineteen, fifty seven only about nineteen black children end up going to restore disaggregated white schools. Out of thirty, seven, thousand students in the district, it had come to this. Just nineteen black. Children. Inside what are the key seven boxes I find dozens of photographs documenting this vigorous and violent resistance to desegregation Liu. Bian. Williams had entered them into evidence as proof of just how hostile it got here. In one a group of Ku. Klux. Klan members donning robes and hoods burn across outside a Nashville. School. In another, an angry white mob holds up a sign keep our white schools white. In, many pictures at the center of the Group is Casper wearing a Tan, suit, a tie and his signature Texas style hat. In another folder I find affidavits written by white school administrators who witnessed the mobs outside and inside their school buildings on that first day of school Leonardy gamble principle a boy no vista elementary. There were two groups of people gathered at the entrance to my school at eight Oh five am when school was to begin these numbers had risen to approximately two hundred adults and children collectively who are listening to Reverend Fred Stroud speak. Reverend Straw was saying to parents for God's sake do not let your children go into that school. Mary brant principle of Glen. Elementary. Children who are accompanied by parents were all stopped and the parents were urged not to enter the building. About Eleven. Am I would estimate the crowd had reached approximately four hundred, a number and its temper was definitely tense and highly emotional. Jack Stanfield principle of Caldwell, elementary. On Monday, huge crowds of agitators forced themselves into the halls of the school and would not leave when requested to do so by the police. Moved Up and down the lower hall and went to each room and told the children that a Negro was enrolled in the school and that they should leave the school. I also received numerous telephone calls in the office in which vulgar and abusive language were used. To of the calls made threats if we did not remove the Negro children from the school that the building would be bombed. ooh. In the early morning hours of September, tenth nineteen, fifty seven after enrolling a single black first-grader how cotton elementary was bombed. The school was laden with enough dynamite to blast out every window and ravaged the school's library and classrooms. Splintered desks and broken chalkboards littered the scene. A. Front Page New York Times article reported that quote mothers teachers wept as they viewed the debris. And police chief Douglas Haas said there was no question but the blast was connected with the racial strife over the integration of Nashville. Schools. Joe Casey was a police patrolman at the time and he could see how he cotton from his front porch his children attended the school. In an oral history gathered by the Nashville Public Library Casey described just returning home from a late shift. When he heard something her disallowed knock behave with cross room. Knew something bad happened. What did you see? Well it blowing the whole one side of the school. Loud just. Load. Out I met, we believe the white person names. Caspar. Frederik John Casper the man who'd been organizing against desegregation for months was arrested as a primary suspect he been out the school the morning before wearing his suit in wide-brimmed hat button pinned leff Appel read keep our white schools white. In firsthand accounts officials quickly pointed the finger at Casper W H, Oliver Assistant Superintendent during the months of July and August an effort was made to inflame excite the parents of Nashville school children and the people of Nashville in general. which efforts were largely led by outside agitators centering in the person of Frederick John Casper looking through the case file it may be easy to blame casper for Nashville's rage, but that would be misdirected record tremendous pressure. This is a collective effort. Casper was simply stoking the flames of a fire that was already burning in this city. When they were turned away Lewis A three hundred demonstrators in in the end Casper was never formally charged with the bombing and it remains unsolved. In nineteen, Fifty, seven that first year just eleven black students finished out the year and integrated schools and that loan block. First grader who enrolled at Hattie cotton, she never returned to the school. The next year court hearings resumed on the Kelly case. On the witness, stand the new director of Schools William. Oliver. The same man who had claimed outside agitators were responsible for Nashville's rage made his position. Clear. Quote the majority of the people in Nashville would prefer that white children and Negro children attend school separately. He told Z. Alexander Lubi in cross examination frankly he added. We're gaining anything educationally by putting them together. No Sir. When Luby's followed up by asking him if he thought taking twelve years to integrate schools would be better for students than doing it all at once. Oliver compared it to being bit by a rabid dog. Quote I think I can make myself clear by saying this he told Lougee one time I came in contact with a rabid dog and I had to take rabies shots. It would have been possible to give me the whole dose at one time, but the reaction to the rabies vaccine something. So it was given to me in fourteen installments and I think this is somewhat the same situation and quote. As the years wore on the number of black students integrated into white schools began to shop but progress was glacial. And in one thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, three tensions came to a boiling point the south erupted in racial unrest in Birmingham. Alabama. Bull Connor used attack dogs and high pressure fire hoses on black protestors. Days later in Nashville, a thousand black students took to the city streets, white youth, the rocks and bricks at them. Quote unless some concrete steps are taken to end segregation here one black leader said, the protests will continue. It was the same week that President John F Kennedy visited the city to speak at Vanderbilt University. The one we talked about in the first episode. Less than a month later, he addressed the country on civil rights in a much bolder fashion framing it as a moral issue that the country was obligated to correct. If in America. because. Your skin is dog. CanNot, eat lunch in a restaurant open to the public. If. He cannot send his children. To. The Best Public School available. If he cannot go. For the public officials who represent him. Still though the integration of Nashville schools was barely progressing when JFK visited just seven stoically white schools now had black children enrolled by nineteen sixty-nine more than a decade after Brown nine out of ten black students in Nashville still attended all black high schools. So the plaintiffs attorneys headed back to court for yet another round of hearings that's coming up right after the break. This episode of the promise is sponsored by Quaver Ed creators of social and emotional learning lessons that help educators make a difference like music teacher Brian Waldrop does at Warner elementary when the students arrive to my room sometimes they are upset or sad about something that happened earlier in the day. The first thing I need to do is to try to get them in the right mindset to do that he uses interactive songs from quaver. This is one of the kids favorite ones was called elite. Students along they learn positive skills like how to manage stress and King self-esteem this music is designed specifically for the needs of these children. There's nothing better than having good tools and having flavor is like having a power tool in my toolbox with a customizable online curriculum waiver empowers teachers to help kids flourish in school and in life learn more at quaver Ed dot. com. In nineteen seventy when hearings continued in the Kelly case, the plaintiffs lawyer Yvonne Williams argued a bold new strategy for integration one that would royal and Ben this city all over again. Williams argued before the court that bussing students around the district black kids to white schools and white kids to black schools was Nashville's best chance at school integration maybe it's only chance. But the opposition to school integration had gotten so intense, the courtroom doors had to be locked more than two dozen federal marshalls manned every entrance meanwhile more than thousand white people protested outside the courtroom spilling into the street and blocking traffic on Broadway the city's main thoroughfare. But Williams was undeterred to prove his case for busing. He called black residents to the stand questioning them about the difficulty of accessing bank loans. He entered into evidence things like real estate classifieds that boasted access to majority white schools. All this revealed the depth of segregations roots, Erickson says, they weren't only saying this is about schools they were saying about schools is one part of a very broad network of. Policy choices that have really constrained the lives of people in. Nashville. When the hearings concluded William Strategy had worked the court found Nashville had failed to make an honest effort at desegregation and the court ordered the city to start busing. But while the jeering mobs were no longer blocking school doors, other obstacles remained. Nashville's mayor Beverly Briley was furious calling the judge's decision nonsensical and the worst busing order in the country. A councilman urged Briley to delay the opening of school until the community could quote get its sovereignty back. and Mayor Briley did write a letter to schools chief Albert Brooks asking for a delay. But Brooks. Didn't comply school would go ahead as scheduled. And in Nineteen seventy-one Cross town busing began in Nashville. But looking for yet another avenue of Resistance, the School Board decided to play politics it staggered school start times some as early as seven am and some as late as ten am forcing many children to arrive home after dark. The board claimed it needed more than eighty new buses to execute this new plan and didn't have the money to buy them. Except they did. But that didn't matter. They wanted to create a problem where there wasn't one. So the board asked the Nashville City Council and the mayor for that money knowing full well, they'd say no. In the judge's ruling which was published in full taking up an entire page in the Tennessean newspaper scalded the school board, the city council and the mayor for their anteks, outing them for conspiring to make desegregation look impossible. He went as far as adding the mayor and the city council as defendants on the case and issued a restraining order against them for their interference. Frankly. The judge was pissed not only had these officials manipulate the system for purely selfish reasons they used innocent children in the process in his opinion the judge wrote quote the Health Safety and security of the children involved have been compromised by their exposure to risks and dangers and quote. He ordered the city to Bhai Thirty buses and the school board to buy the rest. The matter was settled Nashville would comply with the Bussing Warner. Still, the public sentiment around busing was venomous local newspapers published letters mostly from white citizens arguing against busing. One woman called it a sociological mixmaster. Take a good look at Nashville from the suburbs to the slums wrote another reader Steve Smith in the Tennessean before you claim that clean decent children with kind hardworking parents from the suburbs are the same as people with quite opposite characteristics from the slums. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, one real estate ads featured homes in the suburbs out of reach of the court's order. No school busing problem here. Spacious floor plan. No bussing. Old Hickory. Lake giving you the acreage you desire beyond Metro school busing. Meanwhile the federal judge who issued the busing order judge Morton after receiving death threats and being socially shunned in the city he left Nashville, moved or than eighty miles away to Cookeville Tennessee. But his Ansley Ericsson explains despite white families fear of busing. It was black families who were most inconvenienced by. The federal officials who helped plan the nine, hundred, seventy, one fussing said. We will not ask quite children. In first or second or third or Fourth Grade Deride buses out of their neighborhood we will not do it. We won't do it. They're saying because we think that if we ask them to do it, their families will say, no a no withdraw from school system and that undermines desegregation. So we can't do that. So we have to accommodate. Their resistance, but we can ask. Black children to ride buses in first second, third and fourth grade. So we'll do that yet again, catering to white families Nashville. Placed a double standard on the city's youngest students white elementary children would not be bust butt black elementary children they would be. In the Ultimate Act of resistance heating, those real estate ads, white families fled left the district in droves some to the suburbs others to newly constructed private schools built with the explicit purpose of creating all white classrooms Weitz were willing to pay rather than integrate. The rest fled for the fringes of the county where the district had managed to get more than thirty schools exempt from the busing order altogether claiming they were too far away. Desegregation. Had has been a history of the line of leaks resistance. What is the? The lease integration that you all will take. Right You put a busing plan in there and boom. Bats what I came to realize in the more I learned whereas determine Richard Dinkins is now an appellate court judge but in nineteen seventy five, he was a fresh face student in a second year at Vanderbilt law school and he landed a clerkship with Avon Williams By this time Z. Alexander Lubi had died Williams was chief counsel, and he had been working on a new motion in the Kelly case filed this motion for further relief. This was nineteen, seventy, six, five years after bussing began and inequalities persisted black students were being bussed farther and longer than white students. Black elementary kids had to ride the bus more than two hours a day to predominantly white schools while white elementary kids traveled less than an hour. And those schools on the edges of the city that it skirted the busing order they'd become a haven for white families fleeing integration. This new motion argued to include those more than thirty exempt schools and Dinkins wanted in. I said, you know I'd like to be involved. Isn't it to work on this and he looked at really never forget looked at readjust had this. Emerging Smile on his face. And little. Did I know? That this. Would put all this white on my head. Wednesday dinkins was familiar with the Kelly family. They attended the church, his father pastored an a Z had given him his first haircut. Dinkins ended up spending twenty two years on the case and I truly did not realize. How How. Deep and pernicious. The opposition was asked to it. You know how how there were Some folks just really did not want it. And were resisted in fight it at every turn. That motion dinkins helped Williams file took close to a decade of court battles, but they ultimately won and it was a game changer by finally including school and every square mile of the county into the plan Nashville did something few cities had done despite the Resistance White Flight Nashville widely integrated school system at least on paper Libertarian for? Ally Nashville model of metropolitan desegregation as Ericsson puts it from the mid eighties through the late nineties Nashville was on a shortlist as one of the most desegregated school systems in the country. It had taken the Kelly family and the plaintiff's lawyers decades of work court hearing after court hearing plan after plan to get there. But they finally did and in that time student achievement had improved for both black and white students though for black students, most dramatically in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, one, roughly seventy percent of Nashville's black students were scoring below average on standardized tests by Nineteen ninety-one, twenty years later, that number shrank to just twenty five percent. It had worked access to better schools to more resources to what white students been given. All along was exactly what black students needed. But what cannot be ignored is the burden it placed on black families. It was immense emotionally and physically they had gone to the unfamiliar white schools the schools that did not want them and they had spent many more miles and many more hours riding buses chasing the equity they were promised the equity, the city, and it's white officials had tried so desperately to evade. But as Dinkins explains, as the case entered its fourth decade and Nashville's ambitions grew the city's mayor and its business leaders wanted this lawsuit and all these court orders to go away. Looking to gin up more economic growth the city's influential chamber of Commerce hired an outside consultant to tell the city, what it was lacking, what needed to grow. Their advice if Nashville wanted to attract more corporate relocations, more outside money flowing in, it needed better public schools. The message was clear. A federal desegregation order wasn't going to wound new employees. Nashville's elite the same ones who years before had fled the system for private schools. White suburban schools made it their mission to take back the district. All of this is going on and it. was growing you know the chamber where we need to get out from under this court order. So weakened become to it city and all this other stuff. So they they were putting pressure on the board of Education to move this thing along Nationally a Reagan Revolution was kick in. This anti busing anti integration we've done enough. You know was was was. Taking hold and the UH commitment to. Integration was. kind of going by way shy Williams and Dinkins saw their window closing. It was time to talk about a settlement. Nashville's mayor convened a panel dinkins pored over maps and demographic data drawing new boundaries to create the equity he'd always hoped for. In East Nashville the neighborhood were this at all started more than forty years before things were especially difficult. It was an integrated neighborhood, but the economic disparities were great. Each Mashal? Is Responsible for all the white on the side of hair. It was A. It was so hard to. Get an equitable. Pupil assignment plan over there based on the recommendations from the panel and the lawyers on both sides. The Metro School Board released a plan called commitment to the future. It taken dinkins a year and a half working full-time to help craft it. It was the seventh desegregation plan and the last the city would ever attempt. The settlement art and music to all schools, it promised to build new schools and renovate ailing ones. It also made a big push for magnet schools which could pull from outside and assign zone magnet schools proved to be a key element of the plan. The first iteration of school choice aimed at keeping white families in the system. The district had lost almost forty thousand white students since bussing began. And it was desperately trying to lure them back. The final plan put a focus on neighborhood schools arguing that schools close to home would yield more parental involvement across all races and all incomes. It also hired more teachers and gave extra resources to schools that the plaintiff's lawyers new would likely re segregate. Or. We're already racially N- economically isolated. One of those schools ended up being Warner Elementary. So what was it? What was it like coming up with that final plan I mean, what? What was your sense like? Or finally, doing, this was achieved moment, it was a sense of promise. Bad we were GONNA. Do it right. Not We. City was GonNa do it right. On September Twenty Eighth Nineteen Ninety Eight, Robert Kelly versus board of education was settled forty three years and five days after it was filed. Before his gavel cracked judge Thomas Wiseman who had presided over the case for twenty years held back tears as he read his ruling. Perhaps from sheer exhaustion or maybe because he believed all children might finally get a fair shake. Robert Kelly. The cases named plaintiff didn't speak that final hearing. But the son of another plaintiff did. Reverend. Bruce Maxwell told the court. I don't see US regressing we've come to far. Next. Time on the promise. Between you me and the wall I think national failed that test. How so. Look at the system now. So I experienced. beanie cushions of immigration. Integration. I, was spat on. Walk down the hallway. Get pushed. For no reason. It was not a pleasant thing to celebrate was based on mutual promises. The the city broke the promise that they gave to the plaintiffs. The promise is written and produced by me and night editing by emily signer and Anita bog. Special. Thanks to Sam's earn the intrepid intern for this podcast and it's fact. Checker. Thank you to Tony Solace Samantha, Max Sarah he'll Martinez Beltran and Damon Mitchell or additional editing. Our advisor on the promise is Sevala Nolan trip Kinski. This episode was mixed by Jacob Lewis of great feeling studios. The music for this episode is by Blue Dot Sessions Kennedy's speeches courtesy of the John, f? Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum doral history is from the Nashville public. Library. Thank you so much to answer. 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Hour 3 - Ian Fitzsimmons on CFB maybe canceling their season, MW postpones theirs and TV listings with a joke from Jim

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Hour 3 - Ian Fitzsimmons on CFB maybe canceling their season, MW postpones theirs and TV listings with a joke from Jim

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You could feel the emotion playing out on social media from coaches from players from administrators from pundits from people in the college football media. IANFITZSIMMONSESPN semi joins us on extra thirteen sixty good afternoon to you. Ain't nothing good about this afternoon coach and the way you described me by the way I feel. The image of jewels right eating his muffin. It's all fiction. Like I'm just going to be a no man one walked the earth. That's. kind of going to be a bum. Be. Residents are legal tender, Europe bomb, and I've been a bomb around the world of college football for a long long time man. Here. We go. Right now it feels like the SEC commissioner great. Sankey is John Snow and game of thrones writing it battle the bastards when he just draws his sword like come on everybody I, don't give a damn. And I hope he wins because now the sudden he's got marquee players on his side and I think that given a lot of administrators at least a momentary pause. Darren because whatever lawrence put out there injustice fields I mean give me lawrence fields on our presidential ticket and twenty forty. Because these two young men have arguably more to lose than anybody else. You're looking at a possibly the number one and number two selections and and the twenty. Twenty one NFL draft and they are saying to hell with everybody else we want to play. And we from so many players out there now, she hairs at Alabama one of the best running back through college football to Hubbard when the best running backs in college football to Oklahoma State you know we mentioned you know Justin feels parents of players putting out on social media. I WANNA watch my son played football Joe. Borough. Putting out man if we didn't have football last year I'm looking for a job right now and he's a number one overall pick and orchestrated arguably the most explosive offense we have ever seen in college football. So I don't know what's GonNa Happen Man but I I know that the players are making a hell of a push last second push. To try and save this college football. Yeah and I think the point about Joe Borough in what he put out there respectfully is more important than Trevor Lawrence or justin fields because if they're one two and they're considered big time, NFL prospects, I, don't know that their stock is going to be diminished or hurt if there is no college football season for them to play. But to me, it's a guy like Joe Borough like we don't even know who Joe Joe Borough is we didn't really know. Who I know he was recruited in Ohio, state. lsu Get. But still him playing on the field one on the Heisman, which then allows him to be the number one overall pick in the draft and it's more that kind of player. I don't really think the players at the top of the totem pole coach I. Don't think that they've got a lot to worry about in this situation I appreciate their passionate vote and speaking up, they're taking a rift though. I mean, they could those two guys who easily growing more explosive dynamic receiver purdue Mike Parsons when the best linebackers in College Football Greg Russo, right? Yeah. Outstanding. The end at Miami. All these guys have opted out saying no, I'm not playing. They could easily do that, but they're willing to risk getting corona right away in got there. But one last run with their voice but their teammates because they love the game of college football, they can easily say now man I'm good. I'm going to be the number one overall pick or at least five I'm I'm I'm sweet take care boys get lucky man you guys win and not doing that. Fair Point Fair I was thinking more about if there is no season, those guys wouldn't be as impacted as perhaps other players would be with professional aspirations but your point was one that I I hadn't really thought of, and it's a very, very good one he and Fitzsimmons joining us. So is this starting to crater on the big ten because it was reported yesterday that there was a lean that they were going to cancel all sports maybe that would be a postponement but including. Football and the Detroit free press, our old colleague, Dan. Patrick he had some sources about this today, and since we've heard from coaches, we've heard from athletic directors. Teams might revolt out of that conference they're talking openly about moving over the SEC everything that the big ten was probably fearful of is actually playing out the longer this drags. So what do you think's going on with the big ten today? This is Kevin. Warren. The Commission of the Big Ten conference who was a lawyer Keep that that that that one word right his his former life, he was a lawyer. That man it jumped ship and went rogue and say we're going conference only but we'll before and it is the. Commission's have been talks either at least every other day if not every day. And when he did that back in July, I know for a fact to other power five commissioners like what in the hell are you doing right now Chris Conte told us that on air last week the director Texas going we were all supposed to be in step and all of a sudden the big ten steps out and Goes Conference only PAC twelve gonNA do whatever the big ten does which I talked to one athletic. Director. The PAC twelve yesterday afternoon there and he's the Yoder yes right now live. With. Kevin. Warn big ten commissioner going what is he doing? What does this man doing and and and I didn't know he had a he was a lawyer I know, I remember him from Minnesota by and blundering the whole Adrian Peterson. Thing that's why he was run out of the Minnesota Vikings Organization. This man is all it feels like he he is all about being right and being I am not what is best for each institution and each individual, the individual players and the players the collective it feels like it's all about he's looking demand a mirror going you're going to be out in front and you'RE GONNA be Right Let's go get them. In. A It's it's it's bizarre man. It really is absolutely bizarre. He's got a son that plays at Mississippi state there. Right what if he goes ahead and please and he goes down to watch his son play? Can you imagine the backlash if he's the first to say now I'm out man and he he loves the MAC FOR DOING THE MAC in stand commissioner steinbrecher saying you know, hey and have the utmost respect for Dr. Steinbrecher. But him doing it had nothing to do with money. It's all about health and safety protocols and listening to their medical teams and and the research are medical personnel came up with the the the only reason they can't do the season man come on. It was also you lost a bunch of big money games and you need those games in order to just. To survive. And here's the other thing if your medical people but wait a second what's wrong I mean What's what I mean? You say that as if that shouldn't be factored in I, mean the fact of the matter is that the MAC and other group of five conferences Fizi do have to take those things into consideration because they. What the power five conferences do, you can't tell me that money wasn't some form of a factor didn't make yesterday on ESPN radio I think it was the Peter Burns with he did say money was talked about in meetings but was not there was not a factor as to why we decided to postpone our season. but man, I can't tell me I wasn't a big factor, and if you have all this medical information that leads to a unanimous decision by the MAC. To for the safety of the players to postpone your season. Andy, how are you not sharing Matt with every other conference? And tell the people what did your medical staff? What did your researchers find? Be Transparent. That's that's what I don't get there, and if it's all about health and safety, then tell us what you all discovered and give that to the Big Ten PAC twelve big twelve ACC FCC American see USA and everybody else and articles on the mountaintops and toback. What, what are you holding back? At every conference every single one of them I mean it's not just the MAC but the maximum put out there are overwhelming medical evidence research on what the Hell did you find and please get one else We're GONNA. Find Ourselves in some interesting waters here though but you know what you're saying is that somehow the MAC has accessed information that three hundred and thirty Americans don't have access to you. Know I mean can't we just all sort of acknowledged? I understand but. I mean they're not keeping it under lock and key I mean is there no room in the conversation for you know the current climate of the country as relates to battling this? You know you yourself have been on a bunch of times fitzy and told us you're not leaving your house. Isn't that enough at least a factor into the decision making what should happen with college sports but. I left my house to drive to Montana I wasn't GonNa Fly Right? Actually not. We packed up the family trucks stir into road twenty hours to see my dad in Red Lodge Montana other than that. I? Mean it's a grocery store and back and that's about it. I mean that that's that's the extent of my world now like if we played college football if the five percent hit That home run miracle is like a five percent chance that we make. Why Dr Two Games to work you damn right. I will and I'm I'm and I'm here to to every safety protocol to mankind then some but but Darren. Here's the other thing. The players are about a lot of the players are saying we WANNA play and. I've talked to every athletic director I've talked to you know like we had they cost about three weeks ago head coach wake you know about a month ago and he said he had three players coming up saying coaching them feel comfortable playing you started scholarship you're good. You every coach every talked to honor scholarships for any player that does not feel safe in playing. In you can't tell me that being that athletic facility. Like she cares running back at Alabama. Very. stated. Very eloquently. I am safer here than I am at home or anywhere else. They are safer there, and here's another thing, right? I. I really got to find a medical doctor to ask them this question. I really wanted to hear the answer. What is to keep if it's just johnny and Sally go to Class Chem lab right and they and they get the corona virus at chemistry or TC F. One, hundred or whatever. In English lit. Do. They. Have case. If they're in a class do they can they go to an attorney and go I caught the University of Alabama or you know at San Diego State and they didn't keep me safe do I have a case? Yes. No and what? What's the difference between Johnny and Sally? And football player. Because the football player is in a bubble meaning the dorms or. Housing or in, and also you know going to the same place at training table to get anything from filet. Mignon a smoothie twenty a day seven days a week at most power five schools. So those players are in safer and better. Environments then you and I are Dan. I don't disagree with what you're saying but I think this is also this is yes. A large percentage of this conversation seems to be focused around the safety of the athletes but don't you think that some of this is also about the definition of amateurism in two, thousand, twenty, I mean some of this sort of feels like that's absolutely part of the conversation fizzy that you're right. There are going to be a lot of what you who were they John and Sally who are going to English lit class or going to be a lot of campus. Oh Marty. Mardian they're just for giggled. They're going to be a lot of people who are going to class, but they're going to be a lot of students who are in and you know if you're one of these programs that does have a virtual school system set up, but you do have your players on campus I mean, then what are we saying about what we're expecting from student athletes? Could do virtual class where every student athletes that's the other thing I. The one thing I disagree with Trevor Lawrence. What would he put out there and I loved message. Buddy seeing these players are going to have to go home. We don't play well, hold on a minute. They're student athletes, right? Right. The athlete part go to school system class. They not getting kicked off campus. Because they can kill. Several, we appreciate you sediment. We appreciate that you love College Football Trevor But. Let's not shut that bright of a light on what we're doing here because we can't use your multiple athletic ability to generate hundreds of millions of dollars. Still on scholarship. So that part is is a bit misleading because these guys are going back to wherever they came from not being shipped out school. Aspects and Darren reason and go back to Kevin One. He's at the heart of this whole thing in my opinion big ten commissioner. Is that you there's a lot of lawyers now because of that lawyer, who's the big ten commissioner as you mentioned makes it clear in that case, anybody didn't know just tuning in here to the Dance Michelle here on. X Thirteen sixty. Even moving around a little bit but anyway. said the other station it's okay. With them but. Here's the thing man lawyers are in every president in chancellor's ear coaches aren't making this decision aid aren't making this decision. Informing presidents and Chancellors, and then conference commissioners on forming. Capable of making an objective decision and athletic director really I, mean a coach. That's what I'm Jim harbaugh making decisions. No no, he's not. That's my point. He is not making a decision, but do you are you arguing that he should be? No I'm. Not. Hold on a second coach you know just calm down put your Britches back on. Lawyers are informing presidents and chancellors that if one player and I agree with this aspect, I do agree with this because if we lose one life of what worked at. The. Lawyers are saying if if you have one player. That we lose. To complications due to cope in nineteen, not only are you being sued and the coach position coach in the university, but the conference is being sued and the answer is being sued for anywhere from a half a billion dollars. So you went away losing one hundred and fifty to two, hundred, million in revenue four said institution good old state you versus half a billion dollars in a loss. Plus losing whatever you know it's that's what presidents and chancellors are hearing right now from. Those doomsday worst case scenario every ev everyone who has to make a decision. That's best case you're good. You Play Ball you get your TV money. You get a few butts in seats maybe fifteen, thousand, one, hundred ten or whatever. But you get your TV revenue and you get to play ball. He still say t shirts and hats and everything else and and and fans still watching college football worst case everybody's out of a job and you lose the a lawsuit that you would never ever be able to recover. Yeah I don't envy those decisions and by the way. College football I do want college football I just. I just think it's really hard. You know I mean all of this is just it's really it's really really tough stuff. I mean this is really hard stuff to have to sort through. It sounds like wake. Would you go play right? If YOU'RE TREVOR LAWRENCE? Treble on if you're on full boat, right? And you love playing college football would you go play? In one, thousand, nine year old twenty year old me probably. thirty-seven-year-old me, I don't think so. Would you let me ask you this? What would you feel going to class? I never felt good going to class. Big atten- scratcher to me why is it okay to little little johnny ship combat campus and go to class and take his tuition right But. Well I. Mean a lot of places aren't doing that though telling him to stay away and they're still charging them full freight. That's another thing is such a mattis but some schools are it's not uniform and that's the other. It's a rudderless damn ship at sea because of all Mark Emmer does right look at his every two weeks direct deposit. Is. You. Know little loafers up without his socks on it probably smell like you know what to guard kicked back. That's a power five commissioners. This stuff out I'm good direct deposit cleared. I. Just Count I got makes four million dollars a year to do nothing. Absolutely nothing and he leaves it to the power commissioners man and a group of commissioners and I don't envy anyone having to make these decisions. All I know is that every player every every coach every athletic director talked to has told me independent of every single one of them and I can't tell you how many text messages and phone calls I've made. My wife is so sick of this phone being attached to my ear man. So my kids it's it's it's uniform they want to play and they feel safer in the football basketball facilities on campus then they do anywhere else. And I appreciate I got like like no time SEC. What is your gut telling you I mean, this is sort of like this is the line of last defence in college football even the big ten PAC twelve pack out what's going to happen with the big ten PAC twelve gonna follow along a little puppy dog and then after that. How do you play ball? How do you play ball with just were just three of the of the powerful you know who knows how many group. So if they if those, the big ten goes tax twelve goes we're all screwed in the SEC. We'll wait till the very last second because they want to gather as much information as they possibly can. Especially, they wanna see what happens when some campuses you know who are allowing kids to come back like Alabama They WanNa see what happens you know when the students get back and if there is a spike. So the w the last all. Right hugs and kisses we'll talk to you, Sir And hopefully, we're talking about ball brother and be while man. I hear you. Thank you. He and fitzsimmons everybody ESPN back after this. One, zero three. Three All right you may have heard the sound from Fernando, Tateishi junior about how the big cake and this exclusive limited opportunity to be featured. As. The Friar faithful fan cut out section right behind home plate or the dugouts at Petco Park for the padres game on. August twenty fifth versus the Mariners Yourself on TV front and center there some of the best seats PETCO. Park. You can watch the game all padres games on Fox Sports San Diego Stream in the Fox sports go APP. So we just qualified somebody Jim who was it Scott congratulations to Scott. A, chance at Padre swag bag and have his name. Now he will have his name automatically entered into the running for a cutout here today, an extra thirteen, sixty loose cannons have another opportunity to do this coming up a little later on today. So if you missed out and if your name isn't Scott. And you're not that Scott. Then, listen to the loose cans. Today. We have another opportunity coming up this afternoon exciting. Yeah. Also been told by about a million people that we had a hot mic during the commercial breaks and I'm trying to think all the people that I trash. Around the commercial break I'm going to get suspended for. I think your Mike was off my mic was on for some usually turn the bill off I knew. But normally, that doesn't stop me from being picked up if you WANNA break. Boy That's not good. Conversation Brecca was NOCCO OH. Oh Oh. No, that's not good. So if I'm not here tomorrow I've been suspended because we had hot mic situation. which is awesome. Big Ten thing by the way is just I mean you have players on on on Ohio State Saying wells too late for us to join the SEC, you have the head football coach at Nebraska saying big ten cancels were out like I. Don't know where that he has that authority to do. So I tend to think that Scott Frost in charge of where Nebraska plays football and is probably only speaking for himself the same way any of these coaches. What these these massive Egos are coaching harbaugh. But They're openly saying this stuff I mean it is. It is fascinating to see this all plan out it really is and I just don't. I don't know how this ends I. Don't I mean I don't know where this goes with the big ten if they're if they're going to be scared. By what their coaches are saying by what their players are saying, what the president of the United States is saying today I don't know that they are going to freeze. Given these circumstances because they haven't yet. Made it official there was a reported vote in which two of the big ten, and this is also like this is part of me that also things. College, football maybe call a timeout. You the big ten. Fourteen teams like maybe we should just. Get Our act together here as a sport especially for those of us that love it. And believe in it. Even if it needs work, I mean, it's flawed obviously and pick a sport that isn't. and. You could. Say. Well, wait a second here. Why don't we have somebody who's better than more camera did this and why don't we have some sort of collective? Grouping or commissioner or structure organising maybe we should take this opportunity to address some of the things that are really plaguing our sport right now because there is a theory out there that this, really you know this is about health, but this is also about the threat to amateurism from the pack twelve players from other players. The Mountain West did one of these Hashtag things route. I'm sorry. During the course of this, I think Nicole our back from the athletic just reported or tweeted out mountain West has postponed its fall football season. Hoping today was a play in the spring in the spring source tells the Athletic Stadium First reported the news. Is. That's the next. The next one to go about in West is postponed its fall football season. Now hoping to play in the spring. I mean, that's hope. That looks like the I mean on a much lesser point. Now, the the amount of dates left SD stadium appear to have just gone down our. By the way is that something that? Herbstreet had reported way back when cove became part of our daily consciousness isn't the idea of conferences postponing the schedule the football scheduled to spring something that Kirk had mentioned from the Gecko that is going to be the most viable option. Dr Chrysler the College. Football season whatsoever. Yep He did get crushed for that. So that's now the second group of five conference to do this behind the Mac I missed those mack games. I mean those random Wednesday night mack games are always great. Obviously not having. San Diego State impacts. Not, just their fans I mean listen it impacts. I realized that. I want to be careful here. I feel bad for our colleagues. Who I know have income directly tied to covering San Jose Football. I do I mean I on a much lesser degree in for a much shorter period of time I can relate to that based on what happened this past weekend Into that you don't feel as bad as I feel for the players and for the executives who had the truck all the way out there to Vegas to have one positive test postponed a match between LAS. Vegas. Lights and Sandino seven Airbus. Yeah. They're in their hotel room they were. They were packing up to go to the stadium when they were told that the match was postponed for one positive case with Las Vegas Lights I was walking out of the door to go to stone bring. But anyway, I feel bad because that's income you know that's money. That's that's income that's lost whether it's the right or wrong decision. I. Don't know that that's possible to do that today I. Don't feel for our colleagues. I feel for the station that to a certain extent has branded itself with the success that San Diego State football. Basketball had, and if you're not going to be able to play the fall sports. Well, then what do we say about the winter sports? What are we saying about basketball? What are we saying about Brian Dutcher? What are we saying about any of that? It's just it's such a bummer. It's such a bummer for the students. It's such a bummer for the alumni. It's such a bummer for the athletic department's. Just across the board man. It's tough to swallow. Now. There's there's some potential good news. According to a report. Okay Luis Morales. Who is reporter who I'm not one hundred percent familiar with. He is reporting quoting Fernando Taty senior that the padres have had conversations with junior about a possible extension in a long term contract is coming up very soon. About that. Trusting Daddy knows best right fathers best. I would think so. I didn't think the DAD spoke up. Publicly, but I'm aware. Also. So that's that's life in covid nineteen territory is a bit of good news. Bad News every single day. bomber. Yup. For a bunch of different reasons anyhow more on that coming up next the next thing. FM One, zero, three, three. Earlier today on twitter. which is always representative twitter right? Like twitter polls I think are fun. It's good for engagement I mean I'm not. I'm not basing results, but I was just curious. I said, Hey, you got a must win game. You're chasing must win game who's getting the ball. Okay. Given the ball to your opening day starter the sheriff had all right Chris Paddock you're gonNA, give it to Denilson Matt and I did put. In there because Garrett Richards, I know that at least through three starts numbers of. Have not been where laments are or where paddocks are. But he's been around the block a guy like that in a pressure situation in a must win game I. Think you absolutely positively would have to feel good about him. Getting the ball I did not include Zach Davies with all respect. He was excellent in his last more Luis, Perdomo figured of your top three months win games home I did not. Okay. So or Joe Casey I just said who gets the ball. Who if you get to be manager now who gets the ball? Marty? What are your thoughts I'm going to guess that Lumet was the favorite? Are you guessing the results of the poll necessarily who you would go to the metric right now based on how freaking overpowering dominant he's been in his starts I think right right now and it's a good problem to have between paddock lament I'd I'd give it to. Host the wrap up show Jim Russell Yeah I'd probably go now to his stuff is. Head, -able yeah. Yeah I. Mean Case for nine eleven point three that's ridiculous. I. Was accused or people who are voting for the measure accused of recency bias as a paddock didn't just pitch like forty eight hours ago. The opening day starter. But their numbers in terms of inning pitcher mostly identical better for Matt case per nine and. War era and but yeah, I would've said I said lament also sixty two percent to limit thirty-five for paddock three percent for Garrett Richards only three percent. Wow. Yeah. I would have thought he would have done a little bit better now maybe that's a little bit of recency bias. Maybe that's a little bit. Richer is going to have a shoulder. Darren based on your poll result. Good. They'll show to him tomorrow. Fired question like the padres pay attention to my tweets. TV listings we've got raptors box coming up in about an hour nuggets and Lakers six o'clock. Tonight, you can also listen to that here on xtra thirteen sixty certainly can giants and the fight Nash Stroz tonight at six PM on ESPN. Yes. Tyson versus jaws this documentary legendary boxer, Mike, Tyson faces fears and squares up with the oceans champion sharks to learn how Tko, a shark all in the name of research you telling. 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BK Breaks Down The Steelers Game with Rick Lewis

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BK Breaks Down The Steelers Game with Rick Lewis

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Hope you're starting to climb out of that funk, but it is a Malays across all of the Rocky Mountain region I think right now because of the injury news reported the Portland Sutton injury yesterday tornado torn MC l. done for the year that was confirmed by VIC Fangio also put the Dream Jones news out there is about he was going to be out for about four weeks. Fangio confirming reports that we already suspected about drew lock shoulder turns out. It's a bruise not a sprain necessarily and he's GonNa be out anywhere from three to five weeks. In fact, I let you hear a little bit from Vic Fangio's he explain what was going on with all the injuries. There's nothing structurally wrong with his shoulder you've gotTA. Bad Rouge there you know when a true throwing shoulder. Time to heal it's gotTA calmed down. Your strength back to were. Fully has an economic berate. Honor at one hundred, percent eight has more detail here as to what exactly is going on with drew lock shoulder. Yeah. There's nothing structurally wrong with the shoulder Bad Bruise there. You know when a true throwing shoulder. It's going to take time to heal. It's gotTa calm down. Strength Back to tour. Fully. Has It an economic rate. On a one, hundred percent, one other injury, no devante hairs dealing with a hamstring injury. So he could be out a couple of weeks. So you look at what the Broncos are going to quarterback while it's all about Jeff Driscoll vicks thought he played pretty well, all things considered and I'd have to agree with that. When you look at the numbers ends up putting up the two touchdowns, two, hundred, fifty, six yards the one pick wasn't really his fault. Of course, being more costly with Cortlandt Sutton done for the year vic also said, they wouldn't add any receivers already a little heavy there with seven. So now though Kerry six, those will be. Led by Gerry Judy becomes your number one. This Caja Hamblur jumped passed him. Patrick has the number two. We'll see how much work does day Sean Hamilton. Get tyree Cleveland will now be up and then maybe you'll see stuff where you get Devan, deontay Spencer and Kgan Marlon together. So I'd I'd be down for that just from tribulation standpoint it seems like jets not only have to rely on those young guys, but also his tight end. So driscoll be your starter against the Bucks, br ribbons going to get promoted from the practice squad. I'm guessing they'll put drew lock on I R and just shut him down for the full three weeks. If he's a fast healer, maybe they'll regret that but you've got. The bucks coming up. Then add the jets quick turnaround, and then at the Patriots, St Lucie Drew Lock Against Cam Newton, but it feels maybe unrealistic. So they will. Make those adjustments will they add another player from the outside? It's Kinda. Slim pickings out there Vick was quick to say Colin Kaepernick and not been in their discussions. Blake. Bortles is kind of the only name that's out there. Would you WANNA come here to potentially start for a few games and then yield his starting gig to drew lock probably not you could sign a playoff practice squad they have to agree to come here. So Josh mccown certainly wouldn't would trevor Simian maybe, but he's probably happier being in Tennessee right now. At least knowing that teams trajectory is certainly headed up in the short term more. So than the Broncos, here's Vic Fangio yesterday. This final thing we'll play from VIC. On where the locker room is and I appreciate him being honest with us here the question was actually about just his feelings for everything going on because he's not one to really show emotion you'll hear rick. Lewis talk about that coming up in just a little bit but he was vic yesterday talking about how these injuries are affecting him disappointed for the players that have gotten. Injured you know. It's never good to get injured. On an individual personal basis. It does have a negative effect on the team on not going to insult anybody's intelligence that. Losing the type players and the amount of players that we've lost doesn't have some type of fact. But. We do have good players here in the building. Still they're gonNA come rally look at it as an opportunity for them to. Play good at what they got. Going to get them ready as a coaching staff to go out there and compete. Try and find a way to win these close games. One thing that is affecting vic it was reported last night that he along with Kyle Shanahan Pete Carroll are all going to be fined one hundred thousand dollars for not having their face coverings up on the NFL sideline and League is not messing around with that one hundred grand each of them while all these coaches can in theory afford that's a lot of money does go to nfl charities but feeling that will be certainly a reminder if not a. WAKEUP call to coaches and think they may have gotten away with it around the league or are thinking about slide in their mass down and I don't even know how it relates to assistant who can't afford that as easily. But three head coaches Victorian one of them along with Kyle and Pete Carroll there. So that does send a message. All right before we hear from Rick Lewis WanNa. Remind you about chug water chilly. We know the weather's going to turn here soon and you want to be ready to make. That great Chile. You can also use their. Awesome. Chili powder on Tacos and throw it on other kinds of meat because it's it's really just an enhancement to your meal. You can pick Jaguars Julie up at a grocer near you. It really is the gourmet spice of Western life. You can use Promo Code, Chug, Water K for a twenty five percent off. Offer on their website water chilly dot com on all their chug waters surely products again chug water vk jug water chilly dot com. All right. Let's get to Rick Lewis now. Color analyst for Your Denver Broncos and. Looking to start this conversation before we get hard core into the nuts and bolts of the broncos and where they're headed with these injuries. On how it was for both Dave and Rick to call the game from an empty empower field at Mile High and you're you'll hear him describe how everything kind of went down. So without further do the one and only Rick Lewis. Rick I imagine. You have done plenty of unique things here in twenty twenty and now add to the list calling football game. From an empty empower field at Mile High, not empty with no fans in the stands in a game in front, you empty all the way around with a game going on in Pittsburgh what was that like, and then we'll get into the specifics of the game and the mass unit that is the the broncos coming up. Tell me tell me what it was like being in their just you and Dave and your broadcast team in the booth and no one else. Yeah it was it was weird to say the least I've mentioned it during the pre-game that. Both Dave and I got into radio in the eighties Dave after playing in the National Football League in me. Taking a stab at trying to be an actor in Hollywood and This is Something that was completely new for both of us in something that I never thought. I. Would see in my career and you know it in a way. I was. A little bit excited about. What it might be like, and you know doing something different outside the box so I was trying to just embrace it. it was. It was a bigger challenge for Dave than it was for me. As the color commentator. Tough for play by play guy. To be able to do that off of monitors in really tough for our spotter. Jim Zayas he he's been spotting for Dave for. I don't know how long twenty plus years probably. And it was really tough for him because. What we had was. We had probably. Eight or ten monitors in this little booth with like walking into a best buy. These TV screens everywhere right and One of the monitors for each of us was an all twenty two, which is an NFL feed. It's a basically an aerial shot of all twenty, two players on the field. and. The other was a feet from the network. TV network that was doing the game, the one that everybody watched on TV. The problem with all twenty two is it was such a high shot. In grainy that. None of us could see numbers on the guys. And so that made it really tough for the spotter to to spot the game. which made it tougher. Dave. for. ME. I would just basically just glance at the all twenty two. once they got into their formation, just trying to basically just check in with the defense of coverage was. And then I would go and then look at the TV feed. Because you could see in oil way more detail right what was going on in the field? So for me the all twenty two. It didn't really. Factor in for me. One way or the other. Dave told me today that he watched doll twenty two most of the time. that. That's what he was watching. And our spotted couldn't watch it at all. So it was kind of a mixed bag with the all twenty two it was. It was weird to say the least. We're in Denver in a completely empty stadium we may have been. Maybe the only six people in the whole stadium, there was a guy who led us in. Somewhere. He probably someone had to stay there. There's probably a security guard, twenty, four hours. We want you to think that the stadium just empty I do know that there's one security guard around, but that could have been about it. Yeah was probably about it. The cardboard cutouts were there. They were leftover from the Monday night games. Yeah. I heard. You mentioned them. They're. Yeah. They were they look like they might have been hung over and they were they were real quiet again. We're watching this game from Pittsburgh. On. TV. You know and they kept showing this. I don't know if this was on the. On the main TV broadcast or not. But it seemed like every time they went to a break the feed would go to this aerial young of the stadium. Because there's no fans to show and instead of showing I don't know why they wouldn't just come back and show the sideline show. Big Ben Throwing look at his arm off an injury or keeps you on the broncos. Silence show Mike Tomlin show Vic Fangio show the coach and quarterback talking on the sideline. But they they did they kept coming back with the scene set aerial shot, of Pittsburgh, during the day. Yeah and I. Think I said Three Rivers Stadium at least twice in the broadcast because I'm looking at this you know during the break I'm looking at this aerial shot and I, thought it looked beautiful. Looking at these three rivers and we'd come back and then I would say three Rivers Stadium? Until agr producer wrote me a note put in front of me Heinz field. Right, yeah right. Prefer Stadium hasn't been around for twenty years. so but The whole thing was. It was confusing. What you didn't hear listening was the scrambling. That we were doing in the booth to try to make the broadcast sound smooth. So none of us was comfortable that we were scrambling the whole time and and so it would have been easy to make mistakes along the way I don't know other than me saying three rivers stadium if there were any real mistakes in the call or names or whatever but. We did the best we could and from what everybody told me, brandon? you wouldn't have known unless we would've said something. So that's a compliment and I appreciate that. I'm right there with everyone else I. I. listened to the entire game and I was listening to the to the pre-broadcast feed. 'cause I had the ability to do that with my setup at home and wanted to be a little ahead of it. It was a kind of a strange way to watch a game for me something that. I. Haven't done too much. There's been times where I've. The TV and radio broadcast because when we go through our website, you can do that 'cause it's a little behind her right on and you can kind of as your dvr but I was a full play ahead, which is kind of what it's like being at the game and that was sort of the way I approach. It was when you're at the game, the play happens, and then you look up at the Monitor when you're in the press box to see exactly how was blocked or or who missed a tackle or whatever, why did receive receiver catchable or DB makeup play. So that's the way I kind of approach, but I definitely missed a handful of plays because. I would react to something you guys said tweet it out and I did that a lot and so I was ahead of the TV feet tall second look at you. So there's probably plenty of people who thought I was at the game based on me Ryan o'halloran and Andrew. Mason. And Mark Kessler, the only three reporters I know for sure that were at the game and I was routinely ahead of them even though they were sitting in the stadium based on the call from you and Dave and some stuff you guys were able to to get out your broadcast. So anybody listening to the radio I guess would have likely been slightly ahead of the TV as well. But I'm glad we made you look like notre of exactly exactly. That's what I was going for. In fact I. Probably more actually. Yeah. I probably shouldn't have pulled the curtain back but yeah if you want to be ahead of the TV, here's the thing if someone's follow me on twitter. And you're falling for play by play it's maybe the worst way you can watch a game because there's even the little ESPN or Yahoo game crawl will have like. A fake bought, you know a a digital football that will show the kick off and then like move with each play and have the play written out. So the way I'm doing it is kind a silly antiquated way to do it but I was doing it for a handful of people might just be glancing to see I. Try to put context with not just what happened on the play Regardless it. It didn't sound like you guys weren't there and honestly the only time that I thought about it. We're win you mentioned it and it wasn't like you were beating us over the head saying after every play. There were even times where I could tell you weren't exactly sure who had made the play and you do a good job covering for Dave or David Give it an extra beat that he may not give during a game because like you said, Jim couldn't see it and he would still get it right because he'd glance at the TV feed or understand as the ball carrier stood up or the tackler got off the tackle especially on the defense side I. Think you guys nailed it considering that it's hard to see who it is and you were able to to from your vantage point. Determine who made the tackle from fifteen hundred miles away. Yeah, you know what? Really, what I did was just fall back on my experience I I've been in broadcasting almost forty years. So I just wanted to make the broadcast sound smooth. And professional and Kinda just fell back on that as a default and you know an and at that probably worked the best because there was a lot of confusion you know if you if you would have been in the booth and could see us after a play, you know looking at each other and pointing like. Who made the tackle? You know who? Who who made the catch there was times where we we really didn't know for a second or two, and it sounds like you picked up on that but you know and even Dave Logan who's been doing this forever. he's a he. He said this on the radio today on Koa to. He said man, we might as well just go. Be there you know be there for these road games, you know the broncos. Charters not available to us this year at least as of now. But he was saying you know we might as well. Just. Buy A ticket and go because I. It's. Especially when you've had as much experience as him calling games, the traditional way you get used to that and you're used to seeing everything and when you're Dave Logan, you could see everything Dave's got a brilliant football minded Dave knows. He knows he can tell you what plays coming just by the way they line up you know, and so we'll see how it goes the rest of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if we at least go to. A couple of road games well, places like Kansas. City in Vegas or easier trips for sure getting to Pittsburgh not as easy New York, New England coming up maybe not as some of these games. But but the ones you know put nearby in quotes are probably a little easier and here's the thing too. Though like you said, even though I picked up on it I've been working in radio long enough and know the mechanics of calling a game and listening to the broadcast to know if you guys are split second later than you normally are. But for the majority of fans who aren't sinked up watching the game and listening. They're just in their car or they're just at work and they don't have access to TV. They wouldn't have known the extra breath. I could hear when you guys were trying to determine whether it was Justin Simmons or Kareem Jackson or Alexander Johnson Josie Joel and I realize those guys I'll look a little different but whomever the tackle with whether it's dream Aunt Joan's or shelby hair Joe Casey who are all built about the same in all wear numbers in the ninety s you couldn't tell I think the casual listener that enjoys listening to you and Dave every week you couldn't tell at all so Kudos to you even a struggle. All, right. We're glad to hear that about what happened on the field and then the subsequent injury report that came out today I guess let's start with the game before we spin it forward. When drew goes down and then subsequently Sutton Goes Down Jeff Driscoll. comes. In. I imagine you like most of Broncos cut your well, not only here goes this season. We've got no shot in this game and that's not what happened. You're you're you're right about that Jeff Driscoll. Is The guy who started eight games in his career record is one and seven. I thought going into the year that the broncos probably should have. Signed a ten year at that. That's out there guided. That's been around the game a long time. He could mentor drew lock a guy that's maybe even started. You know twenty twenty, five games in his ten year career. And just let that guy be. You know a guy there kit. Not, only mentor locked but if you had to use them the guy, you could win football games with I didn't think through Jeff Driscoll. WAS THAT GUY But after watching yesterday I was impressed I gotta tell you I was really I was really impressed with him be played pretty darn good. I think you can win some games with him. I don't know if he's a guy, you would want starting the whole season. As. Your guy like your number one but I think you can win some games with him now keep in mind. The broncos these first two games to play two of the best defense in the league. They play to the best teams in the League. And they were more than competitive. They should repeat Tennessee in in day could've beaten. Pittsburgh yesterday. So the broncos. They've got a competitive team. That is very resilient battling through all of these injuries which I have never seen. Injuries to key players like this in my entire life. Of Not only covering football playing football watching football. When you've got your number one quarterback down your number one wide receiver down your number one pass rusher down your number one corner down your know IRV. Be Running back and your number one right tackle who opted out because a cova to begin the year that's devastating. That's your six best guys at all your key positions. It's unbelievable. That they've been playing as well as they've been playing and looking back on the twenty twenty draft now with Portland Sutton off at the year. You gotTa feel pretty good that they took. Excuse me. They took judy an Hamblur. In Rounds One and two I know they. You know the so-called draft experts were hammered elway Broncos for taking handler in the second round after taking judy but. It sure worked out to be good. Didn't it well, and here's the other thing to everyone wants to jump on Garrett, Bowles he played well against Tennessee obviously part of the no sacks no penalties was rated as the highest broncos player in pro football focus. Then today even though he did have that hold yesterday, he was rated not only the best offensive lineman for the Broncos he was rated the sixth best offensive lineman tackle on those tackler alignment either way even if it's six best tackle out of thirty two tackles. Sixty four tackles he was rated as six best in the NFL yesterday despite that one hold that had everybody in broncos country groaning. So I'm right there with you I was excited about Jerry. Judy. Who was my favorite receiver in the draft and then when they drafted cage a lower, the idea that you'd go receiver receiver and try to match the chiefs. On. Offense as well as beat their brains and on defense with a better defense at the Broncos on paper did have going into the year. I think that it's a credit to elway and maybe even Vic Fangio who certainly is still going through growing pains as head coach he was not down when he talked to you guys this morning or when he talked in his press conference despite all these injuries. Yeah we'll Fangio seen everything I. Don't know if you've seen injuries to this extent, but he's been around the league. So long I vic Fangio, it doesn't get up or down. You Know Vic. Fangio is who we is I've I've never heard him. You know just real excited after a big win up. Never heard him really down after A. Crushing defeat. You know he's pretty much the same guy every time you talked to him he seems like he really likes Caja Handler. We asked him about him today and then I I believe later in this press conference, he was heaping praise on number thirteen in there's a lot to like watching him yesterday think about this guy's twenty one years old. Playing his first snap. As a professional football player, no preseason games hardly any training camp and the guy is a baller. Imagine next year when they have Hamblur Judy and Cortlandt Sutton plus no fant. You could see what they're what they're trying to do. You know they're trying to load up with speed and an explosive talent and they've got it. You know hopefully, these other guys can stay healthy the rest of the way hopefully we get drew locked back because even even if the season. Is. Pretty much gone by the time lock comes back. Say he comes back. In after the bye week in the broncos up one win or two wins you want to see this kid continue to develop you want him to keep getting Reps. And get better for the future. So I'm glad that he's not going to be out for the year. and I think they could win a game or two with Jeff Triskel. I wouldn't write him off yet. Well, we know that the bucks are still trying to completely find their stride. They didn't have Chris Godwin this week they're good on defense with guys like and Dominic ensue and. got a bunch of tacklers there. But they've got Tom Brady and Gronk and Mike Evans still trying to figure out the offense for nets probably going to be featured more. There's no guarantee that Tom Brady who has not always fared well a mile above sea level and he's come here is going to just walk all over the Broncos next week. Then you go to the jets were there a complete disaster right now and the Patriots looked good in a loss to Seattle they look pretty good last week but. I think the Broncos are going to continue to remain competitive and to the point you brought up. These are two of the better teams that they'll see an I'll make the case. These are the two best defenses you'll see till at least week twelve with the saints. If not all year, these might be the very best defense. They certainly terms of Pittsburgh's blitz package and. Pass Rush. So I understand why why folks and Broncos country bomb today when you hear Portland Sutton's down for the year when I reported that this morning as well as all the other injuries and lock out for anywhere from three to five or six if not longer, it's a bummer but it doesn't mean that the sky is falling and goes back. We've been saying it's a credit to elway and and Matt Russell that they've been able to rework this roster to keep them competitive or what we think will be competitive here in the coming weeks. Good Point I. Don't think anybody expected them to be a super bowl team this year. There were expectations that they could be a playoff team. And and that's still possible especially with the extra spot right nine and seven nine and seven tiebreakers I. It's too early to write that off in this new NFL. But what they're building there they're building for the long-term now. Now that they have their quarterback, they're trying to build around him and put an explosive offense around him. gave him a whole lot of weapons. They're all really young they're really talented. So you're still looking to the future for this football team and I know Denver. broncos, fans her very impatient. And I get it. You know they they've really been spoiled over the years. This franchise has set the bar really really high. And broncos fans. They don't know what it's like to lose like this. They don't know what it's like to not go to the playoffs. So there is that but I you're going to have to be patient with his team. There's a lot to like about this football team injuries can't be helped. You know. A. Death. A pretty big deal which we're going through right now but. I I on the bright side you're you're going to get a chance to see more of these younger guys. Get some snaps and reps and playing time and all the backups, a number twos and even number three's. You know guys that. Can really benefit from that and. I think this t I think they're really building something for the future idea. I never thought this year they would be super bowl I thought they could get in at nine, eight seven no. Get a playoff spot but next year I think is the year to watch. Assuming everybody's healthy then I think you can maybe raise your expectations for the football. Team. and. So kind of the point you were making it it'll be good whenever do does come back you certainly don't want to think that there's pressure off but you're gonNA play games that's kind of what he did at the end of the year was he just went out and played they were out of the playoff race and he was able to just kind of relaxed and I don't think that he was pressing or anything it was way too early to tell yesterday with just thirteen snaps and WanNa five and certainly steelers were getting after but. To your point with such a young core, these are going to come out and just continue to play and we saw it on defense to Michael. Jordan had a rough day by by any measure, but certainly for a rookie and he saying, he didn't play I don't think as much as maybe he anticipated play a fair amount he he didn't have his number call too often because they were. Media, but these guys are just gonNA be able to build on that and you're going to have to solid pieces of your defensive secondary for a long time that you're going to get some valuable experience as well as some of these young guys up front Mattel James going to be a big part of what they're doing now for the next couple of weeks because no dream Aunt Joan's and know demarcus Walker at least for a little bit. Yeah and they love him too I was Kinda surprised. That he's been inactive. I who games. They loved him in training camp and yet which I think is player. it's the toughest position to play in the National Football League specifies certainly on defense in probably the toughest to play coming out of college. At any position as cornerback in OJ media, I have been watching him pretty carefully and I like what I see from him. The kid the kid is he's a big corner he he's a hitter. He loves to come up there and make tackles and he's a good tackler. He's come close to making some really big plays. He got picked on yesterday Big Ben went after him as the weak link back there. and he he'll. He'll benefit from that that that touchdown pass. With with Ben. Rolling. To his right to thirty eight year old quarterback kind of lumbering along. You know bad knees and. Bad everything. And, then he just throws a bullet. To the Guy thank you. At the. Johnson a Bay wide receiver in Ocean Moody did not have bad coverage. Now, he almost got his hand on it. He did he did in at that's something that he'll learn from. You know he never had to play. quarterback like Ben Rothlisberger play against one like that in college or probably even a wide receiver like Johnson. You know. So these are all things that. Will benefit this kid I I expect. Big. Things from them. So it's good that he's getting all these reps now. All right before I let you run. A save your your thoughts on the bucks for the very anything else that we missed or something that jumped out from the broadcast other than the mechanics of it. I did appreciate like you touched on earlier referencing the. The cutouts in the stands and they'll be I guess w mixed in a they're gonNA have to move some of the cuts I gotta think some of those seats are really good seats for the fifty seven hundred fans. It'll be there this Sunday. But anything from the broadcast that you want to highlight. Again, I wish that we still had the the notes that you you and I would do years back that we would touch. After and you know. Anything that the made Dave laugh that I may have missed because I was doing something else or. They made yourself laugh. I. Can't think of anything yesterday. It was so weird. It was so different. In honestly, I was scrambling all game. You here. We all work PK so much to the point that. You know even during breaks you know were looking around and asking each okay who who made that tackle and who made that block and? Trying to just get caught up during the breaks and then you're right back on the on the air, the call in the next series and I. I. Just I don't remember if I said anything that may dave last. But I was trying to focus on just being smooth and seeing as much as I could offer these monitors to. You'd be able to give the listeners a good picture of what's really going on in the football game. I did note that are cardboard cutouts were really quiet staring at us. You know there is were just kind of earned in through us. They look right to you. You know those cardboard cutouts if don't look them right in the eye. because. They. They kept his hypnotic stare. And they basically are just looking right through they can see right to your soul. So I try not to look I'm right in the I just like I try to not to look at the. Big, blue for the airport. Yeah. Blue surprise I don't look I. Don't look at him directly either when I go to the airport. So I'm kind of superstitious like that. There are some story and I meant to bring it up to you because my wife told me the other day we had to drop are any of the airport and. I guess some guy drove up to it and Either tried to do something maybe tried to kill himself or did or something I needed to find. Did you hear that story I? Realize? That's not exactly broncos daily podcast material but. Talk. About blue a lot. I'm GonNa see if I can find the story. I don't bring everybody down and see if. I try to avoid all. For I've got a friend who every time he goes to the airport here a picture of it and text it to me. Until I opened up texting like damn you. Coming in. You're getting rick rolled by blue safer instead of never gonNA, give you up its. Forces me he should put the music. We should figure out a way to put the music under to that. All right. Well, okay. Final thought then as I let you around and always appreciate that I steal more of your time than you plan on But what do you see for? Sunday with Tom, Brady and Shaq Barrett and company come into town Broncos, they're underdogs again. as you know PK, the broncos have covered. Both Games even though they lost depends on the number yet for the Tennessee game because it kept shifting but yeah. Covered the two and a half they did they did cover that they covered again yesterday. The broncos are really competitive and losing. I don't think. Anybody would expect that the broncos could be Tampa Bay. When they come in here with Brady on Sunday, but I wouldn't put it past them. This team has so much heart chapter risk will get a full week of prep in all the snaps in practice which should benefit him. I would think probably quite a bit and we've seen that the broncos defense is good. This broncos defense is good. They have they have good personnel on that. Pretty much the whole defense. They really played pretty well again, yesterday at all three levels, you like you like the way the teams built. Yeah. You really do I mean the steelers had to. Two big plays on them. And other than that. They really held them pretty much in check I see them doing the same thing on Sunday keeping the game close and then maybe maybe they'll get about. At. It's it may I maybe it's their turn or the football gods go. Hey let's get the broncos the balance of the turnover at the end of the game here and get them a w. they could happen. You know what it feels like the last time they got it was wind shelby Harris intercepted. Big Ben Two seasons ago, and then the football gods have been against them since. Maybe now the loop was closed yesterday and We'll see if if the football God's will now look favorably upon them. Like how you think I'd like that thought. Loop has been closed. The football God's will look favorably down on the broncos and do not look lucifer straight in the now and do that but feel free to use that on either show this week listening to both. The time is always talk to you next week next rick. 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Moving On From Votto?

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Moving On From Votto?

"It. The fantasy focus baseball podcast here, your hosts Tristan Cochran, and Eric era bell there. It is the fantasy focus baseball Thursday may ninth two thousand nineteen. I am Eric. He is Tristan. We're joined today by tour watchdog Tom carpenter and our own Mark Gonzales, but with a much better batting average versatile. Underrated. Kyle soppe. Hello, gentlemen. It's mother's day weekend. Don't forget, the call your mother's very very important day. Indeed should go without saying. Yes, any any others play fantasy baseball. I'm guessing no not a chance. My mom agreed to be a baseball fan for me, though. When I got on board. So way to go mom, my mother can't stand Bryce Harper. I don't mind saying. She couldn't figure out listen to this. I'm can't stand Brett Gardner. We're totally even there. He's just as good as. Why would that be? While the hate Brett Gardner, she because she just judges the way he looks at the plate. I I mean, this is the weird part about baseball fan people. Just look at players on the make judgments for the most ridiculous reasons. He just doesn't like brick turn. Speaking of ridiculous reasons, we have lots of gets on today's show including weekend. Pretua pitchers galore latest injuries hot streaks. No hitter. Nobody cares about and fantasy out. All the time of your what myriad comma meals and has Browns this BAAs aids. I hate the lead with this. But it sounds like you want to Mike fires. I recommend him. I tried to recommend like fires to a month ago. And you laughed at me as if I'd never played fancy. Baseball four. I'm not recommending anymore. Rolling. No hitter is look you gotta be good. But if a lot of lock as Carlton never threw a no hitter, you got to be luckier than good. Yeah. Look Ramon, Louisiana jumped over a fence, jerks and pro for minute a great catch. The hit the ball at fielders. Mike fires has two. No hitters sodas. Homer. Bailey. Doesn't make Homer Bailey. Good pitcher passed away in wise, a little bit about the luck that a pitcher needs and throwing hitter, by the way that was a perfect game. But I mean, it's fun. I like watching the end of it. And you know, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. That this is the point in baseball. We're at where the only way pitcher gets the throw more than one hundred ten pitches in a game is if he's been lucky enough to not allow a hit in the game. Right. That's the only way like Chris sales game score yesterday had to be pretty darn close to it. Mike. Fires achieved the eighty six for him. And for fires. It was ninety one. All right. So it was fires was better. All right. Maybe I'm wrong opened up, but that's pretty close. Yeah. Look, I I mean, all the no hitter really tells us is that at the top of pitchers game on any given day. They can put up a game comparable with anybody else in baseball there among the very best. But in fires case, it's like his remainder of his track record shows that there's a very very steep floor. And I remember when you and I talked about fires in the preseason. It was about the game in Japan. And at the time you've been pitching so poorly during spring training. I wasn't apt to believe in him. But maybe he's figured out a little bit. And he becomes a matchups guy. That's that's a positive, I suppose, I guess for home games. Yeah. You can stream. But you know, I wrote my free agent blog entry today it should be posted. And I you know, I didn't mention Mike fires as a guy to go out and get a lot of other pitchers available and more than fifty percent of ESPN leagues. I mean, if I say to you might fire is Martine Peres of Minnesota. Don't you take as he's doing something different? Yeah. And cutter. Yeah. That's the point. Is that you said he's doing something? Different. I want the guys doing something different. I don't think that anything has really changed with Mike fires. I look a lot at his numbers. And he looks like the same kind of guy and when he has his best on a given night. This can happen in Perez case, this is a different guy. You mentioned the cutter trading that for the slider and ineffective pitchy at beforehand has paid some pretty big dividends. And look at the K rate. The K raid actually matters. Now, it's not great. But it matters. And it's may like if guys doing this for two starts. Okay, whatever. But he's doing it now intimate so Martine Perez. I'm going to say, yes. Legit. Like Zach Davies his K rate is no worse than fires. Wouldn't you? Take the guy in the National League who pitches world home induces a lot of soft contacts. I would at well. The only thing here is that when you're contrasting oaklands park with Milwaukee park that's one where it's pretty close. Frankly, I think it's a little scarier in Milwaukee. But I see your point the point is like we know what I think fires is. I think we know what Zack? Davies, and it's actually better than what fires is Luke Weaver. Yeah. Look, very, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rather have Luke weavers? You only looks like he's figured it out. He's not walking anybody. Turn Bill looks good. I mean, these are all pictures available more than fifty percent of leagues. Jared. I cough yesterday looked tremendous. He's not allowing any hard contact. The defense is better. Tyler merely throwing another name out there. Not. Yeah. I don't know that I'm necessarily there yet. But merely stuff is very interesting. I've always felt this way. It's just that. Did he well he rain in the command? I don't know that he's given us a us enough of a sample to say he's there. But I'm intrigued Brannagh would've I've been intrigued for year. I'd rather have would've than fires. I mean, whatever it is what it is. Let's move on to more important matters. Like, Justin Turner, he three home runs the other day. And that was a big deal. I didn't realize this until I looked it up never hits for power in April. He has three of his ninety eight career home runs in April three. Wow. That's weird. Isn't that weird? Great staff. You read my blog, you would have known that. But what do you let me get to like one out of four blogs a week? That's okay. If you do eat all your stuff, but about two and three quarters at a four. What what can I do? Now, you you do have ESPN. Plus, what can I do to get you read all of my work? Like, I do I read all your. Mariam title that might do it cotton titles. The original dock. We used to do that. Oh, you do that. What's right? We'll give it. Yeah. That way. I get the preview before anyone else gets to read it. Well, not new I I won't last on McCoy at for you either. Okay. I promise. Nice. The editors must do total rewrites on my work. So what I send you the copy? It's probably very different and what it's going to end up. Anyway, nobody was concerned about Justin Turner. But like Joey Votto at some point. You know, what I hate to talk about vital and every show, but at some point we're going to have to drop even for the likes of we've already dropped him for Luke voids and Christian Walker. Are we have had Christian Walker? Don't we have to Tristan like or is vital going to be this year's my carpenter? I I think it's a reasonable question. I'm not dropping bottle for Derek Dietrich. But meddlesome, yes, he's available in fifty percent Mitch Moreland. It's not like game. And I know you like. That for you. All right. Do that. Yes. Everybody wants her name game. Highly. Holy diddley. Do a what that Tilly a pickle digitally do lead slander daily while the Dili of pickle, I Italy, but Elliott pickle? He can't do the draw with throw that the little league delight birds city leave a pickle come on to do whatever, you know, pickle, dilly, dally your way into another thing a name for you. I'm Sultan of staff row stat dog stat at kids stat hamster of sat statal vicious MRs of stats was wrong with you trash tristen here. Is all what are you singing that we're having? Who? I love the misses of stat gets in there right around mother's day. Nothing. Enjoy those numbers that tell me to invest except the walks. Now, you comment is apt. He over the fence dealer day Laurino caught it, but yeah, does could be met carpet. But it's not going to be mad carpet. I know it's not going to be. But but the reminder of what carpenter did last year is apt that something we've got to keep in mind. I do think that the age vodka is in his career in last year's numbers. Do raise concerns that don't make it a perfect com. Did you see carpenter the common in the game yesterday? I believe it was in the cardinals game or maybe it was two days ago where carpenter admitted to one of the beat reporters that he uses the first month of the season in order to get books on pitchers that was very interesting to me after last year. I not surprised that he does. But like Batas older. Yep. And he's starting to pop up now. And he just like he's not hitting baseballs hard. Like, I think with carpenter. You could see how that would end. Well, but I he's to pop ups. He's zero. So if you regress, I just a hair to the me you tie your that's by the way, hits his high since two thousand eight is. So that's not a good one. But I'm just saying like, what do you expect? What do you expect from the rest of the year? Gimme the batting average home runs. I think the average is about last year's to eighty I think. I can't say him hitting more than fifteen more homers from this point, even that's probably aggressive. Let's play the game to Derek Dietrich vodka bottle hunter dosier or auto. I still auto. I I'm interested there, though, Daniel Vogel Bach fato. I'm not a Vogel Buckeye, and he he's not hitting much lately year, Andy as the bow box doing the exact same thing is he's just walking. That's it. I'm not look I've paid a lot of attention of auto since the beginning was pro career. I'm not I'm just not a big believer. That wanna find find the cutoff your Andy, Andy I like Andy you would take Andy over him yet. He's the third most draft first baseman on the ESPN leagues. I love the project in Tampa. I love the project that they're they're making him their project this year trying to unlock the power. I I'm gonna speculate on the Andy upside I should Walker stopped hitting as well. He's he's stopped hitting. I mean here on the most added list. I mean, it's basically Mitch Moreland start hitting. He had one good game. He had a he had a multi Homer game. And he had a four walking. He had two Homer game on the day that I sat him. I mean, thanks a lot Hayes. I mean, all your homers for the bench. We've accomplished literally nothing with his name game. Okay. Well, I mean not trying. We use it. That's a big step. That's like the only thing we achieved Gandhi has basically is only guy we both like him. But you're not dropping vodka for DOJ or Ryan Healy Shaw, Justin Smoak. All right. Let me ask it this way in other game in the ten in the ten team game are standard. I get it. I think he's worth cutting. Are you cutting him in absolutely anything else? No. I haven't been in labor, and I can't call them. And I wouldn't call them used I spent twenty four dollars on them. But what I think about trading him to the reds fan in the league right now. Yeah. Okay. Would and that's probably the hook. It's different pitchers. Does not hurting my team like Derek Rigas would have hurt my team had. He started a chorus field. Of course, he didn't because of snow out dumb. Anyway, we gotta move on. Because there's a lot to get to today show. And we've gotten to almost none of it. Right. Yeah. Let's go in injuries briefly David price happened after our show last week. I'm not the least bit concerned, are you? I'm only bothered in that they had just announced tech Velazquez. They did not want him in the rotation. Then they want him in the bullpen. And the timing said that they needed price to start that day. But so far so good. I'm not gonna get it. I'm trying to find other injuries here that matter with players that went on the injured list this week, and I don't see a whole lot. There's anybody that. Let's do the players come back unless you think somebody that really wants coming back. I think are more are a little bit bigger deal other than one when we get to the closers. Yeah, we'll close gen Lowry the Mets should play on Friday interests. Or no. No, not really they have too many parts. I don't see the I don't see the role for him. And I don't think he's a good enough player to succeed in a utility. But your center fielder Aaron Hicks interested because I was at the beginning of the preseason. But that injury worries me from a recurrence standpoint. We've seen a bunch of prospects. Not getting the job done. Nate low was called up in the moated right away. They didn't really give them a chance and the Blad Guerrero feedback is not positive at all. He's not hitting. You got the day off the other day is like vodka, you just wait or like people are gonna start cutting Guerrero. And I think that's a Nanya mental mistake, and I think you do too. I think it is a monumental mistake. However, my trout's debut year, we should not happen. Sometimes even for the greatest it doesn't happen. And then what's going to happen here? And by the way, I'm seeing a lot of people coming out with this whole ridiculous fab criticism that people shouldn't have this because people go crazy for the prospect spend all their fab, you can't get these prospects. And then they get sent down and the nobody wants them the second time, you know, what that's an opportunity for you. Wait for the second time pick up the player Retha awards. Yeah. I agree with that. And I think you do as well briefly. This show is sponsored by our friends and seek the ticket industry has not changed in a long time. There are bunch of big companies who have been around forever, but they don't really care about making the experience easier for the customer. Well, seek is a ticket company where the customer comes first with more than fifty thousand five-star reviews in the app store. Seek is focused on making your experience as easy as possible. Seekie polls. 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Well, I don't know which one is it Mukhi bets Christian yelich defending MVP's, max Muncie. He's gotta be Rauscher Naw leagues. Mitch Haniger Joey gala, which one of them is not rostered non percent. I guess all see maybe. No. No. No. I'm I'm including another guy that you're qualifier excluded. So my Wednesday. Yeah. The well. Well, you know, that's no Monday. You know? Well, yeah, we'll get to that. I said when a word I say. The interesting guy from Wednesday for me is Joey Gallo. We gotta get this stat out. It's amazing. I love this that. But what's on believable mini is how it's not even close. Okay. So Joey gal hit his hundredth home run on Wednesday. He has ninety three career singles now immidiate in this era that doesn't seem so unusual. But do you know second is all time for least amount of singles with one hundred home runs. I couldn't believe the difference here. It's got to be. Yeah. Yeah. I did. And it was I don't remember who it was. It was by a substantial margin was one hundred seventy two singles house done it with ninety three. It's Russell Branyan. And there were other sluggers of heft and Sloan is on the list Gallo is not actually slow. He's playing center field. Unbelievable. But Ryan how're was on the list. Dave Kingman name from the past. Anyway, gala doesn't any singles. I guess we don't care. It's nice to fifty two season. He to fifty with forty home runs was amazing here is he's playing center field. They didn't prepare for the fact that the line of the shields just can't hit brand. They're not using Danny Santana and center. And so does shields gets demoted yesterday. They're going to actually play hunter Pence and left field regularly with Gallo and center, I wrote about that. Yeah. And I do like it. And I'm looking forward to reading about hunter Pence to but are yellow I am. I am. I am. I just looked at Penn says we were talking before the show. I'm amazed at some of the airline numbers for him. But in Gallup's case, I wanna point out two things. One is the chase rates. Ten percent lower this year. He's not swinging at bad pitches. Better disciplined. The other is that his swinging strike rate is down four point two percent this year making better contact as well. And I'll tell you as a guy likes to play the sabre metrically inclined leagues and the six by six that pitch all the time. He's tremendously valuable player monster, and he's not gonna struck out two hundred times. And I added Pence Intel last week. Wow. Kept getting all these numbers. I've been really lucky Intel I'm winning N LeRoy now, it's not gonna last but I'm off to a good start. Wow. Such come on. Look at look at the other managers league. I mean, obviously something's gonna change. It's on the bright side. At least you answered one of the hash Browns in advance. So, you know, there was a labor trade. We'll get to the labor tree. Make that trait. Kyle means to fund you weren. We talk we discussed we got. According to. Eric. So so the guy on Monday who I missed your qualifier on the thing. What did show Tuesday was Tuesday was Whitmer fueled? And Monday was Pablo Sandoval one of the most unlikely combo meals you could ever see there's only one guy less likely than him who who is less likely than him. He had the second longest streak without a stolen base. What was it six hundred and thirty games? I believe. Yes. Six hundred thirty six hundred thirty games without a steel. There's an active player with a lengthier streak. He hasn't stolen base since he was in AAA and twenty ten this guy who's real romo's. Oh, he's not fast. The buffalo is not speedy. So Santa not only did he he stole third base without a throw because the Catholic drop the ball. So you might have been out. But he he also threw a scoreless inning and on Twitter somebody asked what does that call and say it's a combo meal. Panda size. Yeah. That's a good one. Double play to just might be the longest show everybody along go ahead. My only job here like trista job here is to help people when they're leagues and he does that because he wins all his and not. Let's forget, I'm let the Uber driver. I cut out of traffic, and I make sure you get to your destination on time. That's my only job here is just to make sure that like that works out Dr say the lead to. I went the wrong direction earlier in the show, and we're going to have an hour show. But here are are the the savors the closers the carousel. All right. So a closer actually went on the inter- list yesterday, and they're not saying it's a ten day trip. It's going to be probably a month. It's groin strain for Pedra Strope the cubs after kala Hendrix pitch. Wonderfully went to a committee with a lefty Carl Ryan and then Steve see Shak while pitch the run home. Cubs have to go with C shack. Here. Carlyle was juniors lurking Nonni looking better than before the motion and show is the smart pick. I like the mentioned Edwards has pitch. Well in those couple of its to adding since his promotion the other thing to point out is that Edwards year really got thrown off track. When they when major league baseball loud him to do that weird funky hitch and his delivery, and then shut it down right around opening day, which why that took a month and a half of spring training. I don't know. But that's why he was in the minors. I think he was just trying to get back into some reps in the old delivery, so far so good. If you wanna take an upside guy for saves Edwards. I'll definitely take a couple of flyers. Matt Barnes of the Red Sox. He's not getting all he got the most recent save instead of rhyme raider seem that March numbers are some major numbers right now with the strikeouts. Yep. He is less looked at with seventeen strikeouts per nine. This is Josh hater like what Matt Barnes doing. It'd be nice. If you could get some saves. I would we keep going back and forth on this. But I would try to invest there. You're right based on the case. And I'm glad I kept my share my points league. I think people should definitely speculate there too. Certainly least. I think the God again Atlanta is Luke Jackson. I think the gotta get in Texas is still hosing the clerk everyone's dropping. But they shouldn't don't you agree. Pretty much in both cases a Jackson buyer. But I get it. I you know, he's hasn't given up any run since I in the season. He's pitching. Well, don't look at the numbers. Look at the recent trend. I don't think there's a lot of runs opening day with a guy like that. That's full ish unless we can find something he's changed. I think there will be a regression involved here. I'm not gonna rely ride on a scoreless streak. He's going to run into some point. You're you're pessimistic to like, I I agree with you. There's no reason to buy unless for the role, but he showed nothing in the past. But yeah, I'm looking at his numbers. He's not walking people. He's not giving hits seas fishing really well zone rates. Thirty nine percent. Right. It probably won't last. But I will by AJ may throw in a trade right now. Oh, yeah. No. I mean, the opportunity is absolutely there. And he's pitching effectively. It's also getting a ton of ground seventy percent ground ball rate. I get where you're going. It's just I don't I don't feel comfortable with anyone in Atlanta. That is fair. Let's look at the schedule. Now moving along Thursday. There is day action that you've already missed probably ESPN plus tonight has much sarokin Luke Weaver sirocco, I love I love last year. He's healthy right now if he had enough killings to qualify for the era title he'd leading it right now. Obviously that number is going to go up. But maybe not today. Arizona doesn't crush it. Luke weaver. Did he change something because he used to be as good a prospect as Jack clarity? And then last year and Saint Louis C was terrible. He was walking people. He looks good. Now. And some more on this entity was a top thirty starting pitcher year ago. And I won't name that person was. But now, I know that's the problem. I hate taking guys here late too late. What's he gonna differently? Yeah. It's the control the control is a lot sharper. This year. Friday is plus in the daytime has GIO Gonzalez and Jose king tunnel. China that's working out. Well for those who invested in canton, so far and GIO Gonzalez. Will do what he does we've already discussed ad nauseam on this show, some pictures, you could probably get pretty easily off regency Pablo. Lopez at the Mets we both love Lopez. Right. Except for the next cap. Yep. Right, which you're going to write about at some point soon because our boss wants us to and checkout article I'll be reading that as soon as possible. I now, you know, I I don't know about you. But like I'll be reading Jayco Torrisi. I can't really by like, nothing's really changed. He's at home against the choice. So yes you buy on Friday night, but like for the season odor Rizzi versus Martin Perez. I kind of think Perot is now. You're not the investor elite to aren't you? While I'm yeah. The one place where I've got a big share of my sim league. But. You know? What's driving me? Nuts about terrific is. I feel like a lot of value has come out of the two games with a high strikeout number. Yes. And the rest is been very ordinary and very old originally like it's difficult for me to invest in a guy who's getting a lot of value out of a couple of games the football complex that this that the Dwayne Bowe year. I don't wanna guy who just doesn't two games. And he's nothing the rest. I don't trust that guy did you ever Williams, by the way, nobody wants them. But the numbers of their he's at Saint Louis in exactly hit the last couple of days against Philadelphia, Saturday, Zach f eflin. Looks good Zach effluent Jared. I cough. Look good. They're going deep into games. Now. They're getting ground balls. They're getting some strikeouts. Now, they're playing the royals. They don't exactly hit hit a ton. But some like comic you just three homers at a rose eight runs. So anyway, I think I cough over f win but only FM pitches this weekend, I can make that case where they're based on effluence underlying numbers currently looking like severe regression is in order. But I do think they're both very interesting pitchers miles Michael pitches Saturday, he looks fine. Now looked great earlier this week against the Phillies, while Graham balls pitches were moving all over maybe he's like the Matt carpenter needed a month. Get going what do you do? Jordan Lyles any interests there. He's at Saint Louis. He was doing a couple of things with a pitch selection during spring training that caught my eye. So the k- rate, and we saw a little of this last year to the K rate is intriguing if you match them against the right team. But this is a streaming type for me. Sure. Walker? Bueller late on Saturday. That's a good one. Walker? Bueller is going to be fine Sundays mother's day. He's call your mother's and watched Griffin canning on ESPN plus against John means now, I've not investing in means. And I'd made it pretty clear that I'm not part of it's because he's on bowl more in my wrong to not invest in John means so mean. Weird. That's all. I got a terrible joke is all I got here. You're right. I I just I don't I don't think there's a lot there. You want Griffin canning, especially because he's facing Baltimore. The night game on ESPN TV baseball is you'll each ASEAN, and John Lester, some regressions coming for lesser zero sum is going the other fraction for scene is not as bad as numbers bunch of players in this game. You don't know what people are gonna start dropping? Travis shaw. Kyle Schwarzer law. Hey, sue, saggy. You. You gotta start moving on if they don't hit by many may. I mean, not that there isn't a Matt carpenter every year people. Right. That's the thing. And there probably won't be this your Tyler Malians that San Francisco if you like them, that's the place to stream. Again, drew Pomeranz. Did you really pick up drew Pomeranz and a league? No, I had him already. But, you know, the death of the league's I play, and it was a two star week and that league to start pitchers are absolutely everything. Now, the reason why I would invest in fires is this weekend because he's raising Cleveland. They're not hitting it all and there's no sign that that's going to change now. Linda and Jose Ramirez should get better. But who else in that lineup is going to get better? Like, I don't believe any more Jake Bowers or kipness or they're catchers. Like that lineup is a mess. So. Yeah, use Mike. Fires fires probably gives a five runs on Sunday. I just I care. Yeah. But I mean, if you're gonna use them for a match up if you're gonna treat him like Serena option, but you know, what though. I should really refer. There isn't any data for this. I'm going to say, I should refresh the data, but there isn't any data guys who throw one hundred and thirty pitch outings the last one I remember as Johan Santana, and he he regretted severe way the next outing. I'm worried about the workload effecting them. I don't think all arms are created equal. So I'm not worried about that. I would still use them against Cleveland because Cleveland's bad. But and yeah, I had Minnesota winning that division. And I was like one out of thirty five people to do it PM staff, and I got a lot of tweets for it. And you know what? So far looks okay. Minnesota hits the ball. And they have enough pitching guys like Martin Peretz or good enough. So that could have been a really good pick. We'll see what happens. All right after this. Kyle speaks interest and answer questions. The always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the talking for him. Always in the gym always running drills will new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born he realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll gave up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that gyco could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. All right. So we alluded to this earlier, but the find you are sharing team in labor mixed. It appears since texted about it that you made trade and tell you whether it was a good trader, please tell us what the train bus. We don't Eddie resort and Tyler Skaggs for Tanaka Caleb. Smith and Delano shields. This obviously pre demotions. But. He's not the point of either way best player. Now, you need pitching on that team does really dead last in the yard. And what this year and lost kluber so Tanakh on Caleb. Smith will help kill Smith is underrated that he should I think Kayla Smith just and could have an era three fifty two season with more than a strikeout for any. That's a good pitcher. Yeah. I agree. I'm a little worried about the injury absence last year in the subsequent possible innings cap. That's a team that's not competitive. So why push him? Any resigned, though is fantastic. He's gonna hit thirty home runs to ninety best player deal. Yeah. Now does shields. I don't think he's gonna steal twenty bases anymore. Like two weeks ago? I would've said, yeah, he'll fake wait two to twenty. But now, I don't think Texas, Sean, by the way, Willie Calhoun is pushing for promotion and who's to say that the third time won't be the time for him. Like hunter Pence won't do this all year cat home probably comes up in June plays left field, and he probably hits. I don't think the shield is gonna play very much. But I do like knock and Caleb Smith. I'm not a big Tyler Skaggs fan. I'd rather have to knock and Smith there. But man, he was good. Yeah. So luck with that. You know, what I I heard this shields turning into Darren Lewis. I just don't think they're going to give them another they'll promote them at some point as a fifth outfielder. But I yeah, I think that's what he is. He's defensive replacement pinch-runner you exercise, you you expect the speed you're exploited the defense. But I don't know that there's gonna be a lot else there. And I know it's criticizing after the fact that the demotion gave up four the demotion we looked at this trade and say man reserves, really really good, but Tanaka Kayla Smit, that's what they cost. Yeah. Sounds like you guys prefer we were in. No hurry to get rid of just so desperate for pitching. It was bad going on worse. Picking you up obviously, and somebody could easily make the case that I mean he's on pace for whatever's on pace for he's not going to stay on that home run pace. Now, he's batting to thirty three that should go up. But yeah, this looks like a thirty home run season for any resort thirty one hundred. So that's the wrist. How Chris what are you doing in your labor, your labor AL? You competed. Yeah. Actually, I wanna make sure I can check where I'm at this morning. I was I last I checked when I saw that question. Oh, okay. Yeah. I I well I haven't checked I only check on Sunday and Monday to my lab, I'm trying not to look during the week same Haber Intel. So I don't know exactly what the update is Luke dog Walker. Probably texted me and said how you doing labor. He knows he's in. He's in the league. By the way, I tell you in out you should look not necessarily the standings should look because of the injury role in labor. I get it. Right. In town. I know who's on my team. So right, but exploited the injury role to be able to activate a player for an injured players of huge advantage. I love that. Right. I'm actually paying attention today. We didn't get to this. Chris Davis of the athletics. Don't be surprised if as an injury list coming for him right away. He ran into not the the outfield wall. But like the side wall in territory and hurt his hip he missed a game. And then he came out of Wednesday's game. I don't expect to see in this weekend. If they put him on the injured list. The problem is I don't have anybody to activate. But could you sign up? You can sign them right now. You can't they have to be on your Rostro early. So the guy I'd be activating my outfitters. Reserve are Robbie Grossman and Ben's over this is standard mix. Fifteen starts. Zober schism play. He got put on the restricted list. You should be paying attention to player. News Dresen one fits that one. Batting average doesn't count on bass does. That's why Grossman's as overseer worth raw string. Anyway, what are the other questions? We have. Let's get another one. We've got one from Noel here. Once your best guess on. How long would Austin Riley have to play left field in the minors before considering being called up looking to stash him for future benefits? He's gonna hit I believe in the majors. But then again, I said Blad and Illinois and Nate low would as well and shave who is hitting. We'll get the shave Michael shave in a second. The issue there like Atlanta's currently doing platoon where entrance already play centerfield against ROY dis and Ulan Camargo plays left against the lefties. I don't think they would just sit in CR Tate, though. So they call up the kids to play left field and bad only against lefties. I think that can happen within a couple of weeks, especially the Braves you're only five hundred eighteen. Yeah. I'd agree that there isn't a very clear path here. I think that good example for Riley is just that the no path to playing time argument, and you and I've talked about this over the past year, plus is a poor one in fantasy to prevent you. From making moves for better talents. When I think of Riley and based on explore experimenting in the field. The first guy I think of with a quick promotion was Miguel Cabrera where Cabrera played remember what I say it was six or seven. I think it was three actually three pre show. Yeah. It was three games in left field before the Marlins promoted. Remember, I was there for his debut and hit a walk off Homer in that game. So he was ready to play. And it didn't matter. He was playing out of position Red Sox. Did this was Endor Bogart's with Mickey bets, but he played almost fifty games on the field before they picked him up. So I don't think it matters. Just how much how many reps he gets there? I. It'd be bolting it'd be bold. But are we to excited about Riley based on the some of the other prospects who haven't hit? Yeah. But I mean, exactly who's investing here. I mean in our standard game. I don't think anyone really is. But if you're talking anything deeper if you're talking a league that has six plus bench spots and the ad the room. Why not speculate? No, I agree there. I just and by the way, just not exactly the picture of health. He could easily have an injury list in for something. We don't even know about any day. Now, I do not expect John Donaldson to play more than hundred and thirty games that too skeptical. Yeah. It's difficult for me to I think, it's a smart number. What you're throwing at me. I I hate to be the critic and say he can't exceed that so back to Michael shaves. And this bothers me to no end, and there's actually a hash Brown here from Victor who is more of a cell high option. Chris paddock or shavers and Tristan will deal with paddock in his article. Which is what next week about pitching innings limits. TV that not going hundred fifty innings. So like he is a sell high option based on the fact, nobody's Iraq can stay that low. And he's not going to be pitching. I don't think he's pitching it all in September shave his so Boston yesterday announces that they're going to try shave in the outfield, which makes no sense because they already have four outfielders, right? One is a D H and in three really good defensive outfielders. You have to play every day. Just so they can get their second basement back. They have Brock Holt at water Muniz and Dustin Pedroia, how in the world is doesn't produce gonna stay healthy. My shave is one of their best hitters right now. He is striking out. But he's walking. And he's sitting for major power, and he looks like he belongs. Now, he's not a second basement baseman islet platoon third with divers who can't left and can't defend or tune with Moreland. But you do not demotes shave his, but to answer this question who is more of a cell high option paddock or shapes. I'm going to say paddock is because the perceptionist through the roof right now. Everybody loves him. And the numbers do as you mentioned with the back on the show. The other day suggests that there's regression coming in remaining games. He has available for you. I'm going to be really careful one thing here you throw a number and people attached to these numbers like they were plans announced by the team through one fifty and like where you're going. But the Padres have never said that they've never given a hint of what the number was. So let's be clear to everybody that could be it could be one ten it could be one eighty it could be one sixty it could be one forty. I have no idea. I hate the fact that there's an it's capped in the first place, but there's going to be one because he threw something like ninety innings. I think it was ninety two to be exact ninety last seat. Yeah. Yeah. And then he Tommy John surgery the year before that he's not throwing a hundred and fifty innings. I would agree. He could he could he could. But it's really unlikely paddock is more sell high option to me, I think shave is has to stay on that roster and hit any will hit. I would put him at first base every day. But I am not a big Mitch Moore. I mean moral in is not going to ten all year either. But I just put shave I let them play or platoon of. Okay. So you say he's not gonna to ten all year. He's gonna hit two forty all years that really all that much better. And he's not a plus defender. No, he's not. That's what I understand play shave is over over Moreland first base for as long as he stays hot. You can't turn shave into his over plays all over the you can play at first second and third plane the left field, and Cindy, why would you do that? You can't Jackie Bradley way defense. Anyway, I'm sure the Red Sox find hiring challenging you know, who else does there's a. Place you can go. We're hiring is simple, fast and smart a place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates, and that place is of course, ZipRecruiter dot com slash caravel. Ziprecruiter, send your jobs for more than one hundred of the web's leading job boards, but they don't stop there with their powerful matching. Technology recruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invites them to apply to your job is applications. Come in ZipRecruiter, analyzes each one spotlights. The top candidates never missed a great match. 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So he was it's gotta be remembered now raw bliss looks like a fifteen home or thirty five still guided me for years Moncada looks although he slowed down considerably in the past couple of weeks on cattle looks like he's never going to really run enough, but I can see him ending up like a twenty to twenty five home or third baseman to seventy Denver should be hitting two seventy with twenty five homers. I'm going to rank them robust. I then bueller. Then Moncada than Denver's. Okay. Nobody steals basis anymore. So is doing thirty five year. That's that's really valuable. Yeah. And I like the order with one tweak. I would rather have Denver's than one Cada because I think Denver's raw power is truly greater cut us. But Denver's Denver's to seventy like on Cada probably won't. But I think he will. I think that that he always had to me. I felt his hit tool was always better than Moncada's breaking in the lower levels. Now, the question is has the tweaks that Moncada has made this year made him a better hitter for average on for me. The jury is still out because he if he regrets he's going to be a huge batting average problem year over year. He's going to have a lot of very ability. He's going to have the Jay Bruce approach to disappointing you in that one category over the entirety of his career now a month ago you and I had this conversation probably off the show. I really messed up in a league. And I dropped Moncada in a keeper league. And I didn't have to drop him and the first couple of weeks. He was amazing in the past three weeks to forty seven three seventeen three eighty four two home runs and over two stolen bases. That's a seventy one opiates over three weeks. An Eaton exactly faces he faced Baltimore he faced the traits. Cleveland? Just now they don't have a couple of uses Moncada's really slowing down quickly, and and he's two for five stolen bases. This is not a guy who's going to steal fifteen bases. So. Yeah, I think you're right. Denver's over Moncada might make sense basement only they're going to be there's going to be some consistency. With denver's. I think in the prime of his career. That's not present with Moncada. Devas twenty two years old. Let's not forget that. Twenty three twenty four twenty four now. So he's not hasn't hit his prime either. I know but like DeVos's getting harshly judged for a sample. That's been a crew to the major leagues where he was near twenty years old. I mean, he's still very young. And developing Mocatta is is a prime example of a player and he can get hot tomorrow. I'm just saying a prime example of a guy who played well the first couple of weeks and anybody who invested says, oh, he's great. Now. He hasn't been great for the past three weeks. He's striking out a much higher rate than is overall rate like tin Beckham, why still rostering Tim Beckham? Have you seen what he's done over the past three weeks? We advised to people not to buy Tim Beckham call that batting as fast could possibly fall. Yeah. To thirty four over three weeks. He doesn't run he strikes out. Yeah. Anyway, I want to know whether we're still selling, Tim Anderson. Well, you have to degree. He's not capable of doing this all year. There's a lot of buzz. There's some people who think he will. Well, three twenty eight is ridiculous. But could he be Victor robots with less? Batting average. You know, could he be could? Well, more homers twenty homers and thirty steals. He can do that. He almost did last year. But man that batting average strikeout rate and on the Cates. Better his five walk stress in six home runs. Nobody can hit three hundred with five walks in six weeks. I I think it also in again going to our game and shrinking this conversation to that. There's a level of impatience among people who play where they don't want to deal with these slumps like the numbers, you just mentioned from Cada, they get jittery and scared and want to drop the player, and I think we're going to see that with Anderson. So if you don't like rostering players like this, and you're not willing to be patient through it to get those numbers. You just mentioned the homeless steals Selam. Now, the differences that Anderson has twelve steals in twelve attempts can easily still thirty bases season. Even if he backs to twenty for the rest of the season he to twenty and the final five months of because steals are so scarce he still worth keeping the only difference. Nobody is running nobody. Yeah. Gone. It's not going to be easy to get there. If you consider the opportunities created by the on-base percentage from your number. I mean, he's got a three fifty six on base percentage. Right now that explains how he's gotten twelve chances. There are three players in baseball. We've W two stolen bases. As we go to the second week of may Anderson, d Gordon and Adalberto modesty. That's it and is a bunch of others that are kind of close to that. But not a lot Monte fascinates me. Fascinates me fascinates everybody. He'd players. He's Ganic to last year. It's label Anderson Gordon mandis combined for twenty walks twenty walks in more than one hundred at bats. I know four hundred at bats and crony walks. It's incredible. And they're currently hitting three twenty eight three. Oh, four and two seventy six none of those will last. It's incredible. None monitor. He might hit twenty the rest of the year. But if you still thirty more basis, he's still worth I'm going to get worse, by the way, I will admit that. I was wrong burn onto modesty in one aspect. He is fun. He is he's gone grace ball player. Of the top of the nine players eight steals tour in the minors. Shiels, alex. Yeah. One is Billy Hamilton new. I still think is unreachable. He's batting to ten with zero homers. Five runs batted in. At least you can play conveys Anderson middle and demonises middle infielder and a couple of hasn't popped modest Anderson. Hop make the case, but there's nobody running and I will name one guy who I like. And I you know, I've liked him for years. Charlie Tilson of the White Sox has stolen a couple basis this week, and they are legit steals. And he could be a regular for them. And I will definitely bid on tout. And I don't know how much I'll bid, but I'm down. I don't have enough steals. That's one category. Really lacking. I've seen say twenty five aces. I've seen what you're saying. With him. By the way, has good contact rep. He does great at a very high level for speed. And I think frankly that injuries have been one of the greater obstacles for him. It's not a matter of being good player. He is the version of Roman Quin. That's charlie. Tilson is. And I wonder whether he might truly be a better player than Roman Quinn. Well, I mean might you can stay healthy. So who knows but right. Two years ago. I thought Tilson was going to steal forty bases. And he just couldn't still they healthy. We this is the year. All right longish. My god. What time is it? All right anymore questions. One more coming from drew. He wants to know if it's time to take Mike minor seriously. He's pitching, well and could be a candidate to be moved at the trade deadline. That's not why you add him people just because he could end up in the National League on the Braves or Phillies, Adam because something's different and he's already up to eighty percent roster and ESPN leagues, but something's different with interest in. What is it? What's different with him? Yeah. Why is he pitching? So well, even at home pitching well last year. Pitch. All that was over four. Wasn't it last year if memory serves? Yeah. But but I do let me dig up was just the second number eighteen. Now, he had a very low whip because he didn't walk anybody face. He was giving up a lot of solo home runs. Strike rate was not nearly this good though, like the strike now. Yeah. Twenty two strikeouts in the past fifteen innings. So the full number full year numbers for minor last year. Don't matter throw them out there relevant him moving back from a relief role into the rotation. So the adjustment at the beginning of the year. Explain some numbers, but in the second half, a sub three era. He did he pitch where on the second half. And I didn't take it seriously. And as a matter of fact from June first forward he made seventeen starts of a three twenty three year. A with what look like relatively similar rates. He is he's pitching great. And I didn't take I didn't take serious enough. He's up to eighty percent rostered. And if you ask me where should we be ranking him a we at top forty now. Or not yet considering the depth of pitcher. I can make the case for you. I think he was outside of that. But not by much for me in the last set all have to look. On a little bit surprise. You're not more of Mike minor buyer. Your team was very heavily after him during. Well, I'm buying now. Because I just didn't think it was legit. What he did last year? And I looked at the second half. And I was like come on. He's still in Texas. I mean, how can I buy? Yes, I'm watching him strike everybody out last couple of weeks, and I'm thinking legitimate. So I'm gonna move them up to like top forty status where I'm trying to think of other names like engine ru do you realize hundred Ruas the best year rain baseball since the start last year? He needs to be ranked up around the top forty. He's also the league's leader over the past. I believe it's four years in another very troubling category. Deal stints. Yeah. No, you're you're right. But like, Mike minor versus Cal free. And right now, I'm going to take Mike minor. Oh, yeah. I don't think that's well, maybe this close. But. Yeah. Was pretty good last year. I don't think it's outrageous to say that you should still keep them roster. But like Joe Casey, I'm thinking about lefties the Casey Mugabe's three Lind. I think now it's time to take this seriously, David price. I'm not there yet Skaggs. Did you mentioned Skaggs? I don't I don't like Skaggs, John Lester versus minor. Don't you have to take minor now? That's close. Yeah. Lester it's been looking fan rays gonna at least double from wanted. I want I want to give you a full endorsement of Mike minor. But as you mentioned the ballpark is is a problem where I look at the bar. That's clearly had is Jose cantatas. After that. He's in the conversation. Fair enough the music stopped. We're done. Thank you so much listening to our little podcast, please. If there is any mothers out there listening to our show have a very happy mother's day. 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"If you've been thinking about life insurance you should check out ladder. Ladder makes it super easy to get covered on line. One of their customers even got policy in the security line at the airport ladder has great prices rave reviews and flexible coverage you can adjust overtime million dollar policy. Start at just. It's twenty seven dollars a month visit ladder life dot com slash. NFL that's L. A. D. D. E. R. L. I F. E. DOT COM SLASH NFL NFL show. I'm Robert Mays as joint as always by Kevin Kevin Buddy. I'm good. I'm in northern California. I am now after this weekend. Completely confused over who's good who's not in the NFL. And I'm excited to talk about it. I am was well. I am sitting in a side room in lambofield field for the visitors coaches sat tonight. And there's a snow falling on Lambofield and it gets Kinda gorgeous against the lights. I'm trying to be honest. I'm really enjoying it. It's a nice little backdrop whereas Lambeau on your favorite stadiums. Oh It's definitely high. I just think that the entire kind of I don't know that around. The stadium is so cool it almost feels like a church coach with that super high. The huge glass doors the atrium when you can walk into. That's how we're that people walk in and there's the museum downstairs. It's just unlike anything else. I mean it's lambofield field. It's a it's a holy land base like religious site so yeah getting to come to football games here is always very cool. I'm with you on that one I will say I was impressed. Spy Santa Clara atmosphere. Some of these new stadiums you can never tell I enjoy myself. I'll be curious. I'll be next week. I'll be curious to see what a home game is like because because when I was there for the Super Bowl I kinda hated it so for an actual game with actual fans. I'm hoping it's going to be a little bit different. Yeah no I thought it was. I thought it was good. I thought it was good. We'll save that for next week. Let's start with the game. I just watched extended the Green Bay packers beating the Seattle Seahawks in not surprisingly not a normal football game. It took awhile strange there but we did end up getting there. I was wrong on one thing so I said that the seok. We're GONNA play a weird game then have a chance to to win late and I thought that they were going to do it. The couple of things. I did not anticipate number one punting on fourth down three minutes to go nobody. You didn't anticipate paid that. I certainly did. I should have and then number two this okay. So there's a lot of controversy in social media about the spot with Jimmy Graham. I don't know how much you could see there. My thought is to don't give up a nine and a half yard play on third down and don't give up a bunch of third downs. We've talked many times in this podcast. Just about how you sort of have to the way to be a good offense is to convert on first and second down. Don't leave it at third down because that can be inconsistent. Well the packers third down they just made plays over and over and over again they kind of put that notion to bed for this particular game Davante Adams all of his eight catches were for first downs like that was ESPN put. That's bad out there. They were just taking third and long plays over and over and over again. Rogers throwing really nice passes. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. It was it when when Rogers needed to make a play he would have Davante Adams every single time Rogers from Eric or did not throw an incompletion on a pass that traveled more within ten yards in the air. The that means he was throwing nice passes all night. Yeah a lot of his incompletions were throwaways. I think that the he really had a good sense of the game in the two throws that stand out to me. The wonder Adams on that final drive. It's just I think I said out loud as he threw it. That is disgusting like in the press box. It was just unbelievable. People that is a gorgeous throw and then the other one that I thought it was pretty much just as good was throw to Graham on that deep over out down the right side I mean both of those are gorgeous and then the plays that stick out to me. Obviously Adams was a monster tonight but really cool designs. Your Roger said after the game I asked him about the first fake rubber out that AH to score the touchdown on it. He said he actually came to floor with that on Monday. So they did not have that in the in the playbook that's put in this week just because they expected you know man in that that situation they knew that the just based on what Seattle has done they could probably get them with that and then the one on the second touchdown the forty yarder that fake over route that Devante they ran. That's been in the playbook but apparently timing on it has been a little bit off but the route he ran on. That plays filthy. devante Adams really special player and tonight you just saw exactly exactly why this is what we were talking about the packers in September October. This is kind of what we're getting the whole time. Where if the problem the quote unquote problem? Problem is Aaron Rodgers. If he's holding them back that's a really nice problem to have right and that's the kind of thing where he's going to give you enough to where you decide to be a complete team outside of him to have these performances. I thought social win this game close. Obviously I was wrong and obviously they final drive there but I was impressed with everything you know. The Smith brothers were phenomenal tonight. the packers defense is was was impressive. I mean that that third down sack obviously of Russell Wilson who is notoriously hard to get down in those sort of high leverage situations I was this was was a nice nod to the to the job that Brian Good and cleanses done to the coaching job. Mettler is done. I mean this is a more complete team than maybe even I was giving them credit for the defense has played well in recent weeks. We talked about the Smith scenarios. That another big game today. Watching him live is so fun. Because because when you have just the the vantage point it's just so cool to just see him. The motor plays with When you wash it just he's going and going don't WanNa go and even when he's double teams a lot? The press sack was huge on that play blink. Martinez actually did a really nice job of kind of slow rushing around the edge to make make sure that Wilson couldn't escape that way and that's what this defense is doing right now upfront. They can really beat you up and obviously the niners are better equipped to handle that than the seahawks team was if the divas keeping a minute and Aaron Jones is running the ball which he did again tonight and I mean obviously there his yards per. Carry numbers aren't going to be very good. I don't have them in front of me. Look at it right now. Yards three yards a carry but there are a lot of like stuffed bruns down near the goal line so I mean for the most part I mean they. They did rip off some chunks when they needed them. So so I mean if they're running game is working and Rogers Occasional big time throw. This team can beat you. And that's exactly what we saw tonight. These games are they hinge on such tiny moments. It's and if he can just hit every one or two of those every single game tonight. He did. This team is really scary. Real quick we will get into the sort of particular as of next next weekend's game without Thursday show but having seen this packers defense and obviously seeing the niners. Yesterday is bully the Vikings out of Northern California. How do you see that that specific matchup going with the the front of the the niners and trying to quote unquote establish that run against the packers records? Do you see an advantage either. Way Are the niners going to be able to boy this packers front seven like they were with the Vikings yesterday. I think you have to feel pretty good about this. Packers Hacker's front against anybody right now. They're really getting after the quarterback and it's a different animal playing against the niners. Just because you have to worry about so much stuff all the misdirection misdirection all the play action. Everything else I think in a similar way that the ravens did for most of the season the niners really make you play slow because there's so much stuff you have to sort of sift through through so it's a challenge and we saw them diced up by the niners recently so I mean I definitely think San Francisco is the better team. They've shown that within the last couple of months. But I definitely if we think this one's going to be closer than the last one was. I tend to agree. I have the niners in this one. But that's another podcast. All right what else stood out to you about this packer sham. I think that we we really hit most of it. I really liked the designs. I think the Rogers made a lot of really big throws on third down in Adams coming through as a superstar. Jimmy Graham being a third down maven and that's really I didn't expect the Jimmy Graham revenge game but he also didn't even have fifty yards. It just felt like a revenge game because he had to just sort of a huge plays and that was that's good enough for revenge game on their revenge game meter absolutely but yeah. I think that this is the version of the packers team that we were talking about them in October November. If they getting gene how dangerous can they be. I think this is exactly that all right. Let's you WANNA get mad at the second. We absolutely can get mad extra second same old stuff. Could you imagine having Russell Wilson An and saying let's use him as a last resort and let's just screw around for three quarters. It's unbelievable it. It's the same thing every single tired. It's we get. They get down because they decided they needed to run the ball the entire first half ex and by the way with no running. Yeah Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson was their leading rusher today just they cannot move the ball on the ground and there was one play where they went three straight runs punt it. That happened in one set of doubts and Nice job never happen. It just never ever do that. And the fact that this team needs to get down for them to kind of settle into the best version of themselves man I I cannot imagine being fan of his team in Washington one of the best players and football. Just get missed me misused and marginalized and for years years in a row. This is the exact same feeling. I had watching them last year against Dallas. Yeah it's funny Bryan Curtis now. We're talking about this. And he brought up the Dallas thing that this is what they did last year two and it was just it was kind of. Let's just hang out for three quarters and it's away we have Russell Wilson and that's just not a sustainable thing I I am still higher on Pete Carroll than you are are but the more performances they they have like this the more frustrating it is and I just don't even understand the mindset. I'd like to get some truth. Serum into Peak Carol and just hear what his philosophy on offensive football is because I bet I bet we'd be more confused than when we started before then before when we asked the question. Mike Mike Sando did a really good thing on it in September. He tweeted a link out to a today just about how he thinks that helps you. Control the clock and control the game. And all this stuff. And it's just things that are so outdated. I I mean you look at what happened with the chiefs today. The chiefs just threw the ball every single time in could've put up one hundred points if they didn't screw up the first quarter and this is not the way you should be thinking thinking about the game as it currently exists. I think Carol's awesome head coach. I really do. I think he would he the the job he's done there over. The last decade is remarkable but they cannot what keeps playing like this if they want to realize their ceiling and I just don't understand how it would change. Yeah it's it's not so good right now all right and then the game. No I think we can move on. Let's get to the house. The House the post game drive looking. Oh it's it's going to be terrible. The snow looks like it's actually pretty late. I mean it's not am looking at it doesn't look like a ton as accumulated but I don't think it's going to go. Well you're GONNA call me from from that outlet mall between Chicago and walkie. I'm not driving all the way home so these I get to stop halfway and sleep so that'll be nice Okay let's move on. Let's get to that crazy game from earlier today the chiefs just just doing whatever they wanted to against the Texans. I don't know if I when they were down. Twenty four nothing. I don't know if I thought they can win this this game. But when they scored the first touchdown I literally said to the person next to me. I think they're going to win. This game it just felt like they were going to be able to move the ball. They were getting back. After halftime. It was so funny because that was my thought is all they score here get a stop. They get the ball at halftime and then they were winning by halftime which is just so ridiculous. The two things I thought of especially what law is happening. Where the twenty? Three Patriots Falcons game and then the main Barcelona came back from six down against Paris. Saint Germain a couple of years ago and the reason those two stood out to me was because the teams involved in the players involved made it to where they were both completely lately rational things. That should never happen. But as you're watching it you're like well this tracks. This completely mixed goes against all probability and will never happen again ever in our lives but as you're watching of course this is happening. That's what I was feeling and is probably a through line between Brady and messy and Patrick Mahomes uh-huh right and there's only a handful of guys like that in the world but what I'm saying is is that there is the ability to make this all seem normal is is something incredible credible and this is what happens when you have a guy who can generate offense that quickly. What happens when you're facing the Houston Texans? The other side. Who Have Bill O'Brien his coach and decided and I mean it was on every book? Buddy had to play their role to go from down. Twenty four to go up to to win twenty and that includes the Texans making some unbelievable believable mistakes so this was as complete a performance by everybody in both directions. I just don't understand the fake punt. I mean kicking the field field goal. I think it's a good idea because I feel like you need all the points you can get against this chiefs team button to not go on fourth and one from the thirteen yard line and and then to see a fake punt. Yes fake porn on your minus minus thirty five. It's just completely incongruous. It's not a cohesive. He says the idea of how to approach a football game and for him to say he didn't have a play on fourth. And one I just. I don't even know what that means. I don't think the seahawks have fourth in one place because because they would never go for it but it seems like the Titan. Excuse me the Texans should have some fourth in one place. You'RE GONNA want fourth in one place so they've got nine. Months wants to come up with some fourth in one place. So that's an off season. That'll be an all season project for bill. O'Brien and the guys to come up with some some some place Yeah this was was a disaster John Maclean was tweeting Basilan. Listen embarrassing things he's ever seen and John Maclean. Seen some embarrassing come from behind you saying with Houston This was a disaster. This was a disaster and it's funny because if it was a dignified sort of twenty four to ten loss to Kansas City van dyke well whatever beaten by the best but the the amount of mistakes that team made we got to see. We got to see Andy. Reid is out coach coach. Bill O'Brien for two quarters and ten minutes and it was unbelievable to see. It looked like I know this is a it. Looks like they lost her ability up of about ten minutes to go in the second. Quarter the Texans. It looked like that team. Those fifty three guys were completely different group of players than they were at the beginning of the second quarter. I've actually never really seen anything like it went from total competence and the ability to capitalize on mistakes to. I've never seen a football. It's they were completely just just not equipped to deal with the chiefs offense be they were playing a ton of man coverage and that group of corners with zero pass rush. I mean they could do absolutely nothing against against that chiefs offensive line Mitchell Schwartz a great job against why who's probably not playing it one hundred percent but it was still a clinic. He obviously knew that. Why wasn't gonNA come with any sort of power because you know he's coming back from injury that's it's the pack? All of that stuff just played it for speed. Ran about the quarterback all the time and when they're not getting pressure and you have to deal with those guys is on the back end with a coordinator that is just such a good job of understanding. If you're GONNA play me this way. This is how I torch you. They just had no shot. They had absolutely no shot. I mean they scored fifty and they made it look easy if they did it in four quarters. I don't even know how many they put up or I do want to make a couple of points about the chiefs offense first of all the score on seven straight possessions. That's amazing the play calling was good mahomes next gen stats had this mahomes. Bay scored a touchdown passing touchdown from basically the every place on the field out wide the slot tight all these places like he basically found everything target five touchdowns he loved the chiefs in Rushing Missiles Jose total performance and one thing. I hope that is comes across if you didn't know Starting with ten minutes from the second quarter is the mahomes can still and and is still mahomes. Your Josh Harmar had really good piece about this last week. In and five thirty eight which is basically that a lot of the numbers that he put up last year have have you know. The word is regressed. He went from fifty touchdowns at twenty six all that. But that is a lot of that superficial. Quite frankly A Ed played to less games beyond that. He was banged up in a handful of them but beyond that it was it was a lot of problems with red zone kind of unstable bowl from year to year sort of metrics and he was a lot better in some of those metrics last year. And that's why he had more touchdowns stuff like that. His yards per attempt was higher last year ear But he can still throw the same beautiful passes he did last year and I think this is probably in a year where everyone talked about Lamar Jackson for good reason. Lamar Jackson was is amazing. He is leagues. MVP mahomes was strangely. The forgotten man. And I think that there's there's a lot to be said for the fact that he's still the best quarterback in these playoffs. Just the work he was doing down at the goal line was so fascinating. The toe drag. You did to stay. Behind the line of scrimmage one throw to Kelsey and then he had another one that that was kind of a impervious improvisation on the right side with Kelsey Travis Kelsey by the way who was unbelievable. I mean just to be that weapon in the middle of their offense to be able to run the offense through a tight end like that. I mean it's really hitting own. That's the end of the list. So maybe it's more of the same type of stuff that we came to expect from them. Last year the gear they definitely still have and they're scary man. They're scary as hell and I just for all the fun we've had had with the titans over the last couple of weeks how impressive their little mini run has been. I don't know if they're going to be able to deal with this team with the way the chiefs are playing right now. Imagine counting hanging out the Tennessee. Titans the hottest football. I can't count them out quite we'll get to. That will give them later. But I just this is a incredibly profess Impressive performance performance from the chiefs. It was the type of performance. It's strange again. The fact they spotted the Texans twenty four points that should be a negative. It made the performance so unbelievably urgent that it is significantly more impressive today as I said we have one twenty four to ten at that. I'm worried what about the Texans. Like their future yes and they should hire a GM in this was the year man. I mean and we knew they weren't the team but this was still the year sure. I mean the degree to which they went all in this season when you consider not just the trade for Tunsil but the trade for Gary and calmly the trade for Johnson. I mean they're going to cut a couple of picks but this is a team with very little draft capital. They have a decent amount of change in free agency but the Watson extension is going to be coming soon. It's just I don't know what happens to them now it. This felt like their ceiling was to lose to a better team individual individual route and. I didn't expect it to happen like this but I figured this would be the end of the road for them. And when you when you're who you are as a team is to lose to a better team in the divisional around and you've used all your resources it just it seems like a really really terrible place to be so. The Texans invested a lot in the season. They traded two first round picks for Laremy Tunsil. Andrew Luck retired. The titans still made the playoffs. The Texans probably either would have won the division or been a slightly worse kind of nine one team plateau in the playoffs offs. And so near as I can tell. The Texans spent all these resources and gave up part of their future in order to at one point lead the Kansas City chiefs before losing instead of just losing by. That's that was their their ceiling was always to lose the the second of the playoffs. They just looked a little better for about a quarter and a half. I think they got a couple breaks for quarter to half. I'm not sure how much better they looked. No I'm just saying that if their ceiling was always to lose this round then they're improvements. Allow them to look slightly better before getting pounded. Congratulations to bill. O'Brien on looking slightly better in the second round of the playoffs. While still losing a team will be fine as long as the Shawn Watson and is there but in a way I think that Watson is in a better position to succeed then Russell Wilson Typically has put into you. But it's not hard but I do think I think the situations are comparable because you're looking at this fantastic quarterback who can carry you when he needs to but the question is why make him. Why have this situation? Where like Oh we have the Shawn Watson will win nine to ten games? It should have to be like that. The aspirations should be grander than that. And and they just aren't with these teams because they consistently hold their quarterback's back. Yeah I mean this is some teams believe that if they have a great great quarterback that he should play a great quarterback every single week. In that that that's how they will solve problems. That's not really it. You build an infrastructure around your quarterback to where he doesn't have to be great all the time that's how you win Super Bowls F. You're depending on sixteen incredible quarterback in three more in the playoffs. You're you're not gonNA get lucky every single time. That's all before we move on. Let's get quick break. 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Is One word for it but we talked about the bully ball that the ravens sounds played all season long and I for one singled out the ravens as a team that was had figured out how to play a brand of football in two thousand nineteen that was I mean quite frankly borderline revolutionary. We think but they're the best rushing team in the history of football and twenty nineteen. We're not supposed to happen okay. So I loved the Ravens. The titans is bullied the Ravens out of the stadium by this time around this. They pushed them around. This was AH. I guess you could call bizarre from a result standpoint because neither of us are coming off the ravens running to the Super Bowl but as the auto play video starts rolling. But I they're GONNA go to the Super Bowl but this was not I if they play this game ten times. I don't know how many times the Ravens win. But that performance on Saturday night that that was not a fluke they pushed the ravens around. And when you watch that game it makes sense that they want d. Could the ravens have won this game and a lot of different universes universes absolutely those two fourth fourth and short. I mean those those were huge That goes the other way but again the reason he did especially the second fourth and one the reason they didn't get that Polish is because the titans team is really physical and bullied that offensive line. I mean it was. It was an incredible performance. Titans Derrick Henry is still unbelievable. Leave -able that's still going. And so I think that you just start to think about I start to think about a million things going on with this shame. First of all I I I. Hopefully you're saying now says you did see that marshawn to said that he he He's not going to focus on his future yet but there might be retirement there. I would be surprised if you did a all right. So that was that was reported last night but I this was an incredible ravens team and the fact that the titans ripped their hearts out at home. I'm coming off a bye. I thought that was one of the most impressive performances. I've seen in a long time. I wrote about it this morning but I think you can absolutely argue that the Ryan Tannehill trait is the most important move move by any team of this entire year because while he hasn't been center stage for these two wins they don't get here without him and the Patriots of taught us for so so many years that the playoffs are all self contained one week games. It doesn't matter what you do within those games. Just find ways to win. Maybe you're a different different version of the team. You were during the regular season. That's okay and that's what the titans have done. Their passing game has not been great but they trading for Ryan Tannehill saves is your season and it saves a roster that clearly was worth saving. I mean the fact that the rest of this team is lifting up the passing game now is a testament John Robinson understanding. I need to do something because the rest of this team is good enough to do something. This is good enough to actually make some noise. And that's exactly what we're seeing right now. So it was so impressive on both sides of the ball again pushing Baltimore Round Upfront Henry just ripping off huge gains left and right I really liked. It's just disciplined. That the raiders had up front. You'll Lamar Jackson had a big game rushing but marketing of did not do much on those fourth and short just a matter of understanding where you're supposed to be. They frustrated the Ravens in a way that other people have it and the Ravens ran into mistakes. That just weren't there all season not getting those fourth and shorts which they've gotten the entire year and and should have gone for both of them turning the ball over in a way they hadn't this season just kind of one two three four plays that. Don't go your way. I mean they Komo with two field goals in the first half instead of having those for the entire year those drives end up as touchdown so it's just small little stuff. I don't think Lamar played played particularly bad. I think that they had their moments. There's a great throws sprinkled in there but it just didn't go the way it all season for the Ravens. I saw chase stewart had this. He Lamar had four hundred. Eighty eight total yards. which is the second most in a playoff game behind? Tom Brady and the Eagles Super Bowl who had five hundred six WCHS and listen and not everybody. I'm looking at right now. And the top six time were three and three in those games so that obviously there's a lot of players who were just putting up a lot of numbers because they were trying to keep up. You don't want him to throw fifty nine times. That is not the ideal exactly say is like this narrative that Lamar played horribly or whatever this titans team played really well and it's funny I saw some of those quotes after game. Kenny Vaccaro was telling me how they swarmed him. And all this stuff not and I just think that you needed to play really disciplined against Lamar and you needed to be in the in the gaps and you needed to have kind of like what I wrote last week. Ken Venturi the former defensive. Coordinator Coordinator is talking about how you basically have to have a guy and a half each gap. Because you can. It's really hard attack. Woman the open field. They played discipline football. They had the bodies for it. They had the physicality for this was a complete performance. And this goes down to my verbal and dean pees but also the John Robinson for building a tough fast team and I will say I thought it was Kinda funny this whole thing about how somehow Derrick Henry beating the ravens vins last night was some sort of victory for like old school football man. The Ravens were the best rushing team in history. Like I understand that that Ryan Tannehill Hill hasn't had one hundred yards in either of these games but this I if anybody was was blending the old school with the new schools the Baltimore Ravens. So I think I'm having a real a hard time extrapolating. Any big picture lessons from from last night at the only lessons I can take from last night with the Titans had an awesome game plan. They have a talented roster and they're really high right now and by the way everyone say court. I saw some weird stuff about how you know. Rattana Hill doesn't matter or whatever but that's even weirder than me because this is a team with Ryan Tannehill. Maybe maybe there's some playcalling differences. Maybe just coincidence. And Derrick Henry is great whatever but Ryan Tannehill has played really well for this team over the course of the regular season and even though he's not getting over one hundred yards right now. I you know obviously this is a different titans team with him. So listen there's still nine and seven team. There's still a team that needed a lot of breaks needed. A Adam Dais jets team to beat the steelers start controlling their own destiny in the last two weeks of the season but they're taking advantage of it the playoffs which is incredibly random thing every couple of years They're doing within detail. Yeah that entire argument is so silly to me without Ryan Tanna. Who is the most efficient quarterback in football right over the final ten games? This team is watching the playoffs on their couches. So that's just dumb to me. I don't even understand anything about that and I agree with with you. I think the the the lessons thing I think the lesson here is have really good coaches. Dean has an excellent in the first two games of these plants. He's he's a very good defensive coordinator have have really good coaches have talented players and have a team that can play in different ways. I think that is the thing. That's been Nice for Tennessee that they've been able to tap into a different style than they played for most of the season to Kinda grind out these winds and I think flexibility is is the name of the game when you get to the playoffs. That's what they've shown they've shown a week and be you know they were downfield. Play action passing team for the last ten weeks of the season. Then Derrick Henry comes back healthy and they just lied on two hundred and fifty pound monster at running back for the wince so the ability to do that I think is really what's allowed them to kind of get to this point but I'm not sure there's any lessons to be learned there yet again. And even in the defending Lamar thing. There were so many rich Hornberger Burger I talked to on Friday and just briefly and he was on cowherd and he was talking about how the titans were equipped to get to the Mesh Point. And all this stuff that was going to stop Lamar and I think that there are certain. schematic things like that and the way you can be built for but I also think it takes a lot of luck Within that because Lamar is going to make make you pay a lot of times. Lamar's he listen. The niners played Lamar really really well. And it ended up not mattering and I would've loved to have seen that rematch and to see how that schematically would have turned out l.. And in better weather and on a neutral site and all that stuff but listen I it's it is the titans made the most of the opportunity. I again I'm thrilled with with the team building job that John Robinson did and the only thing you can't say on Saturday night is at the titans didn't deserve because they they out boy the boy they absolutely. I mean it really is a testament to what you if you put a lot of talent on offense of the defensive front when it can carry you and it's carry the Titans Joe. Casey had a really nice game and their offensive line. Played great again all right last one. The game you were at this weekend niners vikings by far the most boring takeaways by far the most boring. Well they did not get bullied. They bullied they were the bullies. Police another interesting nugget from Chase Stewart which wise that the last decade. They've only been four games where our teams ran the ball over sixty nine percent of the time and two of them were this weekend and one of them obviously with the titans in one of them was the forty niners and and at halftime of that game. I was talking to some people in the press box. Smart people and we all decided that this is the type HYPOC team the niners team that can against him. What the Vikings Make Jimmy Garoppolo do the bare minimum Jimmy Garoppolo three very strange interception and that it was funny because some of the niners writers by his propensity? Just have kind of just. What was that kind of interception or our turnover? Pretty Nice play Kendricks Rex. Though sure he was depth once it watching live of and I think the Garoppolo is in this system. A very very services record backfired good quarterback and I think that I I knew sort of coming into the game. Okay the Titans are the best team in the NFL. The titans the Vikings are the best team in the NFL covering tight end. And so this was not going to be George Goes for one hundred and forty yards type of game. George Kindle showed himself as a blocker and as as somebody who could knock people around which he's been doing ailing his entire career. But this was a deebo Samuel game this was going to be more on the outside. Had those guys break the tackle It was funny. I had somebody come come on. Fan Actually A Fan and say that the story I wrote about George Kilowatt him just running people over. I should have right. I should not write the sequel about Deebo Samuel. Because he's the receiver version of that. He's just bowling people over and this is the way they built this team. This is a physical team. This is a team that understands the defenses have gotten smaller and faster and more traffic and if you just run right at people and this is the same way the running backs operate to the same reason I got. They gave him full back more money than any team in the history of the position. They understand that you can just run people over and that shows of self against team like the Vikings which may be wasn't as talented on defense some of the other teams in the NFL. I just love watching this offense. I mean that's not news. Anybody watching their run game and how diversified it is all the different types of runs how they dress them up all the motions. It's just and their skill position players. They just have so many guys that are good with the ball in their hands. And you know. I think that we probably knew that. About seven Coleman coming into the year and seven Coleman hasn't even been their best running back I mean. He had a huge day for the fight against the Vikings but Mahy moster just like the the bursts that he has when he touches the ball watching to creative ways they've gotten the ball in depot. Samuels hands to kind of manufacturer yards. It's just a very well conceived offense with a lot of different ways to beat you and you're you're right Jimmy Garoppolo doesn't need to be great but the thing that stuck out to me. I mean the offense was kind of what we expect it against this. Just we've seen from them all year but watching them completely suffocate. The Vikings offense with their defense. I did not necessarily expect that after some of the lapses defense head over the second half of the year. Obviously they got some and guys back this week but I still was just kind of blown away by how dominant that defensive performance was yeah. I'm with you and this. The Vikings had to play a perfect game. Listen the I think the Vikings eight very nice season okay. This is the to my twin super bowl two years ago. They kind of delivered on some of that promise. This year that game and Orleans was great defense will finish top five and points kind of they are who we thought they were. You know from from that perspective but I just this niners team is just really really good one through forty six active players This is this is the most talented roster still left in the playoffs. This is the team that if I had to guess is probably are we GonNa win the Super Bowl and I think that this was just the Vikings team going up against a team with one more talent. I understand what you're saying there after watching got chips game today. I don't know it's hard for me to not the question. If the chiefs had gone down twenty four points and it was just a normal. Ask Game Do you feel differently about them. Do you feel better worse. I don't care about going down twenty four points. Well I mean they either. The bets. That's part of the thing here is that we saw them go down twenty four points and then to say now we can start the game. That's the most impressive part. They'll put up fifty one points. This exclusive Texans stop trying. The Texans flew home at halftime. If they put a fifty one. I don't care how much they burnt down or up or whatever I mean it's fifty thirty one points and making. It looked easy for three quarters of it wouldn't have mattered to me with the lead was very quickly vikings. What do we think about them? You said we've talked the future of the teams that were knocked out. Is there any any thoughts either. Way On on the Vikings Twenty twenty. We'll see what happens with office coordinator right now. The head coach coach of the Cleveland Browns. And move that you and I both understand and we both talked to Kevin Stefanski. He's a open minded smart person and I don't know how the some of the aspects aspects of that job are going to go but I do know that he's going to be willing to listen to new ideas that he's going to approach this job with a humility and curiosity. I think is necessary for to be a good good head coach. I have no idea if you will be one but I do think it. He's wired to be in charge of an organization that wants to like the browns due. I I think having I think having Gary Kubiak Obi a nice holdover so long as he stays. I think that that's that's GONNA question. I think I think he likes being a little bit behind the scenes. I don't think you want to take on a full blown coordinator position. I you know. Maybe maybe not but I think the he likes where he's at and maybe there's something they could work our. He's still maintains his influence on the offense and they don't lose any any Continuity there we'll see what happens. I think that you're right. My understanding is that he doesn't want to handle all the meetings and everything else kind of enjoyed as being a sounding board. Rick Dennison is still there. He's off. He's the offensive line coach. She's work with Kubiak forever. Kubiak son Sean is the quarterbacks coach so if if Clinton ends up staying I think that that could probably have an influence on whether or not they can keep gary around for another year. My assumption is that Zimmer will go to Kubiak and say would you like to be the offensive coordinator. I think that if I had to bet on what the Vikings first choices. That's what it would be but I don't know if that's going to happen another year last year of cousins next year. I think this team can still seem. This can be a playoff team next year. I think so. Do I think they need to rework the secondary. I would assume that Xavier Rhodes will not be on the team next year just based on what his salary cap situation looks like if they're healthier. Mike Hughes has a bigger role trae Wayne's is a free agent so there definitely needs to remake those positions. But outside of that you know they have a few more guys. I know financially. It gets tougher them after this year. You know they've it really tried to do everything they could to squeeze something out of this season you know. They have almost never done well. Two things they did this season moneywise. They've never done before one. They converted part of Eric Hendricks signing bonus into a base out herb base our into signing bonus to create more cap space. They they have never done that before since rob presents took over the cap to if you look at the deal they gave Anthony Barr. It's not a pay as you go. Contract like. Most Vikings contracts typically are back loaded. I mean they really did. They stepped outside of their comfort zone to kind of keep this team together and now it does feel like whatever whatever that team was. It's going to need some reworking so the roster is going to look different next year than it did this year and has had had has looked for the past few years. I understand why they did it but it almost seems like the Vikings Service much smarter Texans in which they went pretty. They pushed a lot of their chips into the middle of the table for this year and it was never are going to be good enough. Does that make sense. Yes I can understand the ceiling. I we kind of knew what their ceiling was and they maximize the town on this team and that was admirable and they got here but they just didn't have enough to keep up with the top top teams in their conference. Yeah you're probably right. I also want to say before we get Outta here just another super impressive performance by the forty niners front. It boasts ahead a nice game. They were getting after cousins. That is a front for that can dominate. You when you don't would have the guys on the often white and Minnesota doesn't you know they were able to kind of hide it at times this year because of how heavy play how have you seen they were. But when they're forced to drop back and play they don't have a great offensive line and it's the forty niners have a great defensive line. DEFOR being back today. I mean that is a talented group when that entire defense is healthy and it looks like they're gonNa be Yep and Richard Sherman is back. I mean they didn't even throw at him. We got him voided him for most of the game though they just they were thrown to the other side of the field. But when you can shut down half the field God it's just such a weapon as defense. I mean it's having him kind of step tap into that Seattle Forum for this team has been so so important. It's good to have him back. I like I like him as a press conference guy. He's a good. Football is better with Richard Sherman. That I like. He's the type I feel like. I'm glad Richard Sherman superstar still and he's playing like it and he's still giving press conferences. I think when guys I think. Think of teams. Don't have any media-friendly guys they should just keep having people. Richard Sherman should be giving seahawks press constant fifteen years even when he's retired just to keep it going. You know what I'm saying like that. I remember Irwin. Miami and Florida state played like ten years ago and I was in college and I was covering it Dave Hyde who comes in the Sun Sentinel. He was like man. I'm so upset. The Bobby Bowden. It's GonNa get fired one day because like I. I hope he can just do the press conferences like He. He moved the only duties you should have the press conference and then ever someone else. You coach the team right. And and like that's Richard Sherman. I want his press conferences to go on forever. Even after he's retired they are so good. He so candid like when after. Richard Sherman stops is being superstar. Which I you know at this point? Still playing like a star I I want him to talk forever. Let's get him in a booth somewhere. Twenty twenty-nine it works for me. All right so we got bud. That's it all right guys. We will be back on Thursday we will be. We'll probably be somewhere. Assume I'll be in San Francisco because I'll be going there for the NFC champ game. I'm going to be in Los Angeles. I'm going to Casey this weekend. There you go all right guys as always thank you so much. NFL show on the ringer. PODCAST just work. We'll talk to you before you leave. Remember to check out ladder. 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HR 3: I can dance!

"WHAT'S UP With. Happy Birthday to Greg Bergman who? Dances a little better than I thought but my standards weren't high when it came to him. We will we will continue that discussion we have sent the video to Karen Kay about Greg Dancing and she will now judge it based on her seeing Greg Dance at his wedding ten years ago, and she will judge it. In comparatively speaking to his. Wedding back then so we'll get to that. I'd six forty as Karen will stop by for her final driving update of the day today we have some dodger stuff to get to in a little bit as well but Elza you and I have spoken a lot today about the NBA and we talked a lot about Jaanus and just kind of the holes in his game. And we were talking about how many guys we would take ahead of us. And I look at it this way. At some point or another. You've gotta look. At he's a lack of ability to basically go get you a bucket right I do you believe that he can just get you a bucket like Lebron like Kawai like? Those type of guys because those are the guys he's going to be compared to Like do believe is capable of that. Yes I do believe he's capable of getting your bucket under most circumstances absolutely under most circumstances I mean there are people on the all time scoring list George who can't get you a bucket in every circumstance but I do believe that when you look at what Janas is physically. And what I really like about him as his mindset. Like hit mentally he's really tough. Really, tough, and I think if he knew, he just got to have a bucket I think he will be the kind of player who overcome what he lacks unskilled with will. Get you Iraq Rock, get you that bucket. I do believe Oh. Okay. What about now? I, think in certain instances, I don't believe he can do it and by me by doing that is like he can create on his own when he's not just coming down hill I don't believe outside of him coming down hill on you I don't believe that he is one of these guys that can pull up and drain a jump in your face right in the mid. Range. Clearly. We know he doesn't shoot. He's he doesn't shoot the ball that well from the outside, all those percentages are fine. The volume is in great and his free throws in the playoffs particularly seem to be a thing and here's what I would say. Is that. For many years, I was very lucky to be around Pat Riley right and Pat Riley calls times like this with jaanus where the noise gets very loud around you as superstar he calls it the mid evil moments and what he means by that is either you're going to rise to the occasion as the superstar and be the MVP or you're gonNA get swarmed by. The criticism. So I do think that he is it a little bit of crossroads because the noise will only get louder year after year right the noise with him. If they fail in the second round this year, we'll definitely be deafening and not only to him but deafening to boot noser deafening to the Milwaukee Organization because he will be heading into a situation where. In this off season, he's going to be offered a Max extension. and. He may look around and say, I, don't WanNa sign it right now, and if that happens all my God if. The noise is deafening now, right? Like if they get if they get bummed out of the postseason. Will escalate even further from there. So there's a lot on the line here. With him individually with that organization and I'm just curious to see how he handles it. But to answer your question, I'm not super comfortable in him going and getting me a bucket. NO NO HALF COURT SET For twenty four second shot clock. He's he's offense centerpiece and you don't be he gets you to. He's got somebody's gotta get it to him while he's moving. Because I don't think he can. Just I think that the defense clearly can load up on him and he like when the defense loads up on Kawai or Lebron, they could just stop and pop you know what I'm saying and. Clearly, Kevin Durant but. He's just not capable of doing that and we've C L Z. we saw that with Lebron when he was young right we saw that and not even that young right we saw that not at twenty-five. The Dallas Mavericks The Dallas Mavericks in he was twenty five when he went to the Dallas Mavericks employed zone and dared Lebron either to be a bowling bowl to into the pain or to post them up or to shoot over them and none of those options were available to him at that point. I really felt that Dallas series is more mental than skill. That's I saw this do rain nothing but jumpers. In the series against Detroit when Detroit was at its peak and he went off for like twenty nine of thirty points or something, and they went all done some layups, they were jumpers variety of jumpers I really felt as if that Dallas series was about him being in his head because he throws his fun was get a monkey off his back and and play tricks on him. Well, I will say this I, understand your point. But in the twenty thirteen finals in the first three games of that series against the spurs that's what Popovich did to him to at. It wasn't. It wasn't pretty for Lebron in those first three games. Those last four were amazing but. I'm telling you like, but now granted the difference between Lebron and Yannis. Is that Lebron had other things he could rely upon. Okay. Particularly by the time he was playing the spurs he had post moves he had things that you can do in there. They they were just hoping to make him a jump shooter because that was the weakest part of his game. But. He wasn't a guy like if you go to twitter L. Z I, posted video yesterday I even slowed it down, put it in slow motion about the way the heat regarding Janas yesterday and there is literally as Janas, is in transition. Okay off a steel. Four guys are just words in front him corralling him. If that's Brian. K., D.. They easily recognizing that and are passing out of it, and those are the things about Yoenis that when I look at him I say how can anyone say that he's a better player than Lebron right now or he's a better player than Kawhi right now Katie's not playing right now but also K D I can't be in that camp is what I'm saying. I don't think people who vote for him as MVP are saying that with their vote. I think they're looking at the statistics and Santa Typically. He's had a better season and the team has thrived because of it. I don't equate that with them automatically say that means he's a better player. Yeah because I I view it that way. And maybe you're right and I'm wrong. But I do believe that it feels like that's the case and it just feels like we're crowning him a little too early Kinda like honestly Lebron was crowned a little too early. How dare you say that? How dare you? Why? Because he had a crown at sixty years oh? Okay. Hey probably right about that. And I don't think that's unfair criticism. It doesn't mean that I don't think Jaanus Much Lebron even though again Lebron was far more skilled than Janas at that age. It doesn't mean I don't think Giannis can't round out his game that's not what I'm saying. Of course I think he can round out his game but right now I just feel like we're giving him too much too soon. I mean physically saying he's worthy of all of it. It's not like we're it's not like he's he's being held up or propped up like Chris Brown's. Got To Because the people in New York are so freaking desperate for any positive. That as soon as something good happen to them. They gave it a nickname of Houston Savior and the nickname was given to them by Kevin Durant though. In all fairness. And I don't know about that. Having lived in New York, I know those people if. I mean, they ran with him. They absolutely ran with. Yeah. Yeah of course. I felt like that's an example of someone given too much too. But I don't think someone with the consistency of Janas the skillset that he does have and the Freakish athleticism that he is blessed with I don't think fakey he's going to be a hall of Famer that he can lead a teacher championship. I don't think any of those things are too. So I mean they have the best record in the league. Right. Yeah. But the regular season I feel like man Lebron had the best record in the League when you know back in. Two, thousand nine. But you can make the case Kobe heard right but you can make the case Kobe was the more complete player at that time. But again, I don't equate the MVP with saying you're the best player. Okay. because. That's where we differ. Yes. That's where we different. Yeah. Because if that's the criteria that means some people thought that somebody other than Michael Jordan. Was the best player in the League and I don't think any of the voters felt that way. By the way the Utah Jazz again whooped right now they're down sixteen points. In the second quarter. I PICK DENVER. Denver's got the Denver perhaps Donovan Mitchell. I. Think he left the court actually he didn't blitz. Here to work on the court, we have reaction from Karen Kay on the Greg Bergman dancing video. Are you you want to hear it or you WANNA tease it for the next segment Who Tease it all right. We will tease it. Also, we've got some dodger news to get your way and plus what is the battle between the dodgers and padres going to look like you'll hear from Tim Kirkman, ESPN insider in just a second don't forget streaming. September four, Disney's new movie Milan experienced legend Moulana she fights to defend her family and the kingdom available to Disney plus subscribers lock their premier access. So we'll get to that dodger news and the potential battle against the padres and what one of ESPN's experts thinks about it next. Our C.. C L, Z, these were the the tunes that I grew up around right there. It's not bad a lot of. With this yeah. Yeah Lot of percussion I can work with this the occasional string. Right. I. It was fun. Horn Horn. Yeah. A horns, of course definitely horns plenty of orange. Greg do you think I could make to this right now? Like did you pull this part of this? I mean it'd be right now it'd be difficult. After learning how? You guys have all ruined my confidence I am. Humbled you're far more than an hour ago. Yes. I I do need to reevaluate myself my life. All right. So Karen Kay who said WHO defended you? Who said that you were a good dancer she dj your wedding. And she said back then ten years ago, you were a good dancer I have center the videos of you dancing today that you were trying to prove to us that you were a good dancer. The I text back was L. M. A. O. With a laughing crying emoji. The. Second one is bless his heart with a tilting head laughing crying emoji. And then the third texts she clearly felt bad and said, okay, second video is better. The first video was was pretty terrible just like the whole. The whole thing was no good with the shaking and moving that doesn't work. But here, let me see this. Why don't you guys send videos? Why don't you guys dance and send videos and let's see what you guys are working with because if you're going to just sit here and rip on me I, then really you guys got to be able to show yourselves then. We have. We have thirty minutes left on the show. First of all, my instagram account is already got videos of Nancy. Already comfortable in my own skin second of all, and this is the most important part of this conversation to be quite honest with you. I'm flying hail I know what I'm doing. Good. I'm good in every capable of our dog. Yeah I know where the beat is I know what the upbeat is the Mopey I could dance in-between the beat I can dance with the be. Come on man you don't want this smoke. You're also you want to ask me a person who comes who's parents come from a country. That originated salsa music who who probably danced in at least. A dozen ince's in his life who was every time he goes to A. Every time he goes to a wedding is the first guy to hit the dancefloor like you. If you want I'll do it, but I don't want to put you to shame is. I. Mean. Put Me to shame. Then all I'm saying is I just want to be able to see what I've gone up against here. If look already been humbled to mass amounts where I don't even I mean listen. Life is anymore I. Mean We? See this is more your speed right here I feel like play that again more. Yeah Waltz one step to office three. Laura. One snapper who step three step four now go. Dip. Understand who I am greg to understand who I am. When me and my friends went to Cuba some time ago and we were very much aware that we're being watched. We snuck out of our hotel. To find one of those rando underground Afro Jazz Cuban bands, and danced all night and Cuba. You are confident. You have to be to dance for an underground Barak Huma. Yeah. You gotta be on the. Same question. How many years ago? Oh that was two, thousand ten. Same time. But. I try to tell the. But. Here's just trust me period Laura get out of here. Out probably that. while. It is shoot that was ten years ago. It is also true that I've posted videos of be dancing like this summer. And by the way September. So by this summer, I mean like last month, right? That's fair. All right. Let's get to Major League Baseball and Here's some news regards to the dodgers because they're about to first pitch about to go off now about six minutes. So we will let me give you some news on them. So the good news I, L Z. Walker looks like he'll be off the L. Tomorrow. So. That's good news for sure Alex would is back as well. So that's good. Bad News Justin Turner could go on the I L. According to. Dave Roberts. is He really heard of it just? Give me a break dancing greg, do you have an update? Yes. He actually is hurts and I believe that he did go on the I l. and Edwin Rios was called backup it was taken off the aisle for him He's been he's been. He's been held out of the lineup for the last almost a week. So yeah, he's. He's definitely hurt speaking of the injured list Jamal Murray is on the floor and he is grabbing at his leg. That is not good. He looks like, Greg dancing on the floor way. Now, he is off Rhythm Aga- straight. They're calling time out now he's finally Bendik, but he looks like he's in massive pain right now but pretty just got a stinger. Charlie. Hurt. Yeah. Hurts. My knees your your quad. Stable Tried to walk it off. Battle. Let's see. It was Joe ingles happens here. Oh. Yeah. The collision. Joins those knew immediately that they collided. Charlie Horse for sure stay. Oh, Jeez. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is kind of Jamal Marysville by the way good sportsmanship by Joe ingles there to be honest with you immediately going back. Bros. gained seven down by twenty. What else are you? GonNa, do yeah. Well, some guys are like dog you. Show real quick. do let me ask you this. Because we asked him Kirk in this earlier, and we'll hear from Kirch about the dodgers and padres potential meet up or their quest, the padras quest to try to catch the dodgers. Do. You regret that the dodgers didn't get a deal done at the deadline. At. All nope. nope okay. You. Know not. Yet. Not Yet oh Come on George I feel I. Feel Confident that they've got enough. But I am a little worried as I've told you, I'm not not made any bones about it about how short these first two rounds are going to be best of three best the five, all that stuff. It does worry me there's so much randomness in baseball. It doesn't worry me a little bit. Well, this man but regret is a strong word. I wouldn't go there. If there was a there was a glaring hole that they needed to feel. They didn't then maybe I would write but we're nitpicking yes. Yes it. It's like. Yes you WanNa Five Thousand Square Foot House and this one's forty nine fifty. Are you really GonNa miss that fifty square feet probably not right. Get the house right and that that's what's happening right now with the dodgers. Okay, fair enough. Tim Cartoon was all of this earlier. We asked him about the trade deadline and the padres and their attempt to try to catch the dodgers. Here is what Tim had to say about that quote I headed GM tell me yesterday in the middle of all the madness that the the padres are now the second best team in the National League. He felt they improved that much. They added a frontline starting pitcher in my cleven jer who's worked really, really good good enough to go beat the dodgers. Let's say in Game One of a playoff series at dodger stadium. That's how good he is. They added to catchers they added a first baseman slash d age to go. and. They had a a late inning guy and trevor. Rosenthal they addressed a lot of issues. They are still not as good as the dodgers and there is a danger in adding this many new pieces during the course of the season especially this late and then asking everyone to play together for two months. That's not an easy thing to do. But there's no way around this. The padres got demonstrably better and with Nelson Lament and with Chris Paddock and with Mike clovinger and others Garrett Richards Joe Casey Davies. They can. They can pitch with the dodgers on a lot of different days and not many teams can say that. Greg Bergman dodger boy you were trying to knock my clever yesterday tim. Kirkman and. Major League Baseball Historian thinks that might clemenger can beat anybody on a given day Pal He's a really good pitcher and it's a great pickup. I'll be honest in the off season I wanted him this year. He has not been good. His era is where it needs to be his walk per nine has been much worse than it has been over his last couple of years. Sometimes, you have a couple of good years and then you have one really down here and it all falls apart I could see this happening with my clemenger. Do you also think L Z because of. Look. There's been some challenges with him there in Cleveland Right? Clearly that clubhouse in him did not get along. do you believe that a potential fresh start on a team where he's not he's going to be counted on, but he's Sir not like he's not one of the leaders of the team like they've got a leadership structure with Totti's and Machado and those guys right like and and paddock like those. Are there guys Do you believe that that is something that could alleviate some of his woes potentially? I mean potentially but we gotta figure out you know the personality Mesh Right. What are some Nacip things that got him moved to begin with and As he bringing those things with him. You know the phrase no matter where you go there you are right now. So we're going to you're going to see if it was really hill, but I will say this about the padres in many Machado specifically. You know I don't know if they're the second best team in the West or not the second best even no west I give you that much. But I don't know you know where they are in terms of the ranking. Since Manny Machado left, they've been quickly moving up the right, and so I can certainly see in two seasons them maybe being a problem for the dodgers but I don't see anything they've done before the deadline being an issue this year I don't think they're going to be an issue or US next season. But perhaps when Kershaw says goodbye or when he's no longer really Servizi today and we need to figure out what we're doing with the arms. Made, it's going to be orientated going to be you know someone we don't know yet. I think all that needs to be worked out and as we're working that out, the padres will be legitimate threat to us then I do believe. Yeah, I think that they're at least in a potential postseason matchup I think that they are a threat right now and look we'll see time will tell right. I don't I still would pick the dodgers to win the whole thing. Much Tim. Said there but I do believe that the There plenty of teams out there that have a frontline starter that can put you in a bind when a series starts and I think that's the stuff that you have to worry about. and. The dodgers are one of them. No. Doubt no doubt about that. But I think it's different when you're playing from behind and when your favorite I think that that that the just the the the entire feeling and emotion is different right and hopefully that won't factor in but it has factored it in the past. In sports, it wouldn't be the first time that we've seen something like that. True. This is true. First Time we've seen something happen to the dodgers specifically. Yeah. Well, last year we saw them lose to the nationals around. So yeah, it it's. It's look if they had gone to the world series again last year and lost I'd be like, Hey, I'd be less worried but we saw the randomness affect them last year is what I'm saying. So I have a what I would say worried is probably a strong word. I would say I have a healthy concern is what I would say. I I I need something from. George but. The chicken. Sandwich conversation, we have two weeks ago What was the name of that spot? Jalan rates need to get some dinner tonight. Jalan race. All right I'm going in you better order down. This is gonNA take. Awhile. I'm suppose mates I need some food. All right. We're going to do that. Laura's coming over. She says be good contact Laura's coming over night coming up next. My one disappointment plus. The best possible TV reunion. That we've all been waiting for. We'll get to that. In just a minute, but but first before we get to traffic carrying. Miami revealed your responses to the Greg Bergman dance videos now that we have you actually live and in person. What were your feelings about these videos at? The first video I didn't get to see enough I. Do see that river dance thing going on in there and I saw him do that dance that his wedding. Okay. The second to second one I liked it. I get that in eight out of ten. Your. Your your it easy greater. I wish you were my teacher growing up. Listen I've seen a lot of good you many weddings I dj I've seen dancing like I've seen people fall into cakes and and pools. I've seen everything in a wedding and I saw Greg dance put on a really good routine. Scott. Be The right song. No but I thought that second one was good. You guys. Don't do me in trouble we're good your job. Stuff about you. That's all no. I have not seen. L. D. Dance I have not seen George. Dad's you guys say you can dance but I would love to be the judge of that if you love since all over. Okay. Listen girl I'm course when you're judging scale because you. Made out of tens. Even though you know what jared Kerry cancel Karen can be the Paula Abdul of American idol here. Charger girls in San. Diego I can Judge Yeah. I think that second one that Greg did was bad. That was good I came like a four and a half. Wow. Better than negative ten in one. That's all I. Knew We. Give you on the second one. Day Mathu. o-. On the second one. Under on on the on the first one, zero, it's like a nonstop. Okay. Yeah. I didn't see enough on. One sick I'll give them a seven. Okay. There we go and say, thank you. Jackie judges. I wasn't awful. It was average. You know. You you look like you're like you like you were given a do that bite your lower lip. GotTa gotTa make sure I'll do that. But I'm not GonNa, embarrass myself, and that's the important thing know anybody that will take a video in their in their house of themselves dancing on Taco Tuesday night. I'm going to give you a high score because I'm not going to do that video right now no way. Way. So I would like short video I would like to see Elza video dancing please. All right. We'll work on it. Yet Greg could you dance to this? Yes. To slow for him. Doesn't. It doesn't matter dancing. It's only for that open I. Think you need to be humble like the song says. Right. Answers just yes. SORTA way. L Z if I told her, they were remaking a TV show from the nineties and or not remaking basically having a reunion rather. From a TV show at the nineties. which would be what would be in your top three. Top three living single who that's a good one Let me see. From the ninety s Sitcom. For Ninety. fresh prince of Bel Air Okay, and let me think Sitcom from the band Oh hell. Why not? Let's get the scientific crew back together again. So I'm with you on on on on a couple of those the Seinfeld crew just because you know they've got all for the most part have gone just big things, right? And so I'm with you on that I would like to see. I would like to see a in living color. Reunion who? I would love to see in living color reunion. But, the reason I bring this up is because fresh prince of bel-air is going to do a reunion show with the original cast. which original cast did there was two vehicles? I. Believe. It's the real invasive. Oh. Man. What about? As well, he's not around you. Know now just may maybe sad. Sorry, oh. Yes. What are you going to do with uncle the fresh prince of bel-air cast Karyn Parsons Tatyana. Daphne Maxwell Reid Alfons are Joseph Marcell and DJ jazzy Jeff will reunite for thirtieth anniversary special to set to air around Thanksgiving on HBO Max. That's going to be nice yeah. Absolutely. Haven't. Will Smith is on a reunion tour. Isn't he? Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes he likes bad boys for life. Thought it was trashed. Did you I heard it was good. I liked it. Yeah. I heard it was great i. I thought you were talking the but anyway. By the way Oh. No no no no. No we're not going to be entangled with that. We're talking about going GONNA, stay focused on his show. Yeah. I I'm. Not Talking about entanglements so The. But did you see there's also spinoff from bad boys on? TV Now, with Gabrielle Union and Jessica Alba. I'm looking forward to that. L. A.'S FINEST AH LISTEN YOU'VE NO Gabrielle Union a while I have we're does she keep the coffin? Dog because this is verifier right she doesn't age one bit. One she's actually birthday. She's she's looking younger. Yeah. It's SORTA point which I'm wondering if Dwayne Wade actually rob the cradle as opposed to marry someone who was like his contemporary. That is pretty funny show. There is a funny line in the commercial shows going to air on Fox you know what I'll try to get gabby on to talk about the show. I'm going to. The show premiers September twenty something I saw the commercial the other day. So I am going to ask her and see shooter email and I will ask her she'll come on. And and see if she'll do it and if she does, then we can. We can. You can ask her that yourself, how about that That's where the Yoga Abbey, where do you keep the coffin? It's A. There's a funny line in the commercial because John Salley is also in the show he reprises his role from bad boys and and and says to her. So that about the Lakers and she's like Nah, I'm not a heat fan. He's like the heat she's like I know a guy. On US pretty those funny funny little. In the commercial. So. Yeah. So that that is my top three Greg Bergman. If you've got a top three, ninety show reunion where you're going. I probably would've Seinfeld was definitely one of them. I'd like to see married with children married with children man I thought about that for a second. That is a good one. Yes. The in living color thought was a really good idea because that show is fantastic. Can you get Jaylo to dance. Or better than Greg that's for sure. Never, leaving. Those. People that J.LO's better dancing. That's true. That is true Bergman. That is yeah. Up The hustle, we don't need anymore fly girls. Yeah. All right. So what Else Bergman? What was it? What were your three? It was it was Seinfeld was. Married with children and Let's go with night court. Night Court though I think of course more than eighty Sitcom but I do too. Actually think of it as a Sitcom. I think it was eighty show. Yeah. It was funny. I liked it I love night court Marsha Warfield was honey you know. Your goals left convincing you sound. How about cheers? Cheers his eighties. Now. But also in the nineties, it ended in ninety-three it is more eighties though yeah. I've type in nineteen ninety sitcoms on Google's number. One is Seinfeld number. Two is fresh prince married with children growing pains. Saved by the growing. Oh. My God. How can I but we can't do rowing paints we. Because Allen. Doing. I guess that's true. But we've got about an. Not. An ask me those more go ahead. We were you were next. How is like growing pains was Myanmar, and because you guys took in living color and the data and then I was thinking a different world or what different world being good. Eighty. Where where do you think to Wayne? Wayne is right now L. Z. in a mythical remake of a different world. Man Divorced and probably teaching a at a community college somewhere it still wearing those glasses though that flip up you think. Simple flip. A different world? What do you think? Yeah. I feel like I would go more than community college I would I would actually say a professor at the university that he went to school Hillman right it was. With. The name of the school in the show on the show. Yes. Yes. Family Matters. Laura. Maybe. In varinder, go look up at the end of family matters. Oh. Yeah. They did absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Because he wasn't he was Steph honor on. Many care grew yeah. Yeah. I'm not doing this thing will and grace. So I picked will and grace because I'm day or might skews because I mean that would have felt very cliche. But didn't they riady remake? They already did reboot that. Didn't like I. Didn't like it. The first time the second time you know who? You getting a reboot on the peacock network NBC STREAMING APP Punky. Brewster with our POW Prince Juniors is going to be in it. Nice. What about saved by the bell that's on peacock also, right? Yeah. It saved by the bell, but it's like they're just older they're like they're like. They're like like AC leaders like the principal now or something like that. Yeah. We got a break for crosstalk. We will ask Scott Kaplan. What? Nineties TV shows he would remake or a reunion for We'll get into that. We'll get into the basketball. We'll do all the stuff in cross. We are back in one minute. So Dan z with your cross talk with Scott Kaplan tonight make sure you check out the show cap before we get into your nineties TV show that you would wanNA reunion for How how did you feel about? What are the big stories in the NBA Today? There's a couple. Jaanus the Toco. Saying to the media that he was not. Thought about guarding Jimmy. Butler because basically his coach. Doesn't want him guarding Jimmy Butler at the end of the game while Jimmy Butler is bawling and going off. Scoring fifteen points in the last five minutes of the fourth quarter. How did you receive that? First of all good evening to both of you gentlemen and everybody tuning in. But I will say George I kind of sided with L Z on this one I felt like like Jaanus was taking his shot at his coach okay. You thought that it was more just straight up like hey, I was told this is who I guard I'm right layer I do what? I'm told Colorado I am yes. How come everybody was all over Kawhi about a week ago for not blasting through a screen when he's supposed to be Mr Defense and there was some a little bit of talk like come on you gotta be able to get through that and you gotta stay on the Guy. I feel like. I mean definitely taken I feel like anybody questioning him saying, hey, why didn't you look at your credentials? I feel like he's taking a shot coach. George. George. Fair. Enough. Maybe he is but I just think that Jaanus is. Compliant. Anytime, I've spoken to him, it's always the team but the coaches say like it it's feels fairly consistent with what he does and what I'm saying is at some point, you gotta break out of that. Well I mean he's he's the defensive player of the year. He's he's he could be two time MVP right? He's a great player. Here's our great player. Here's your great player are great players got to be on your player especially at crunch time. I mean, you know the guy? I don't know him I just have been around a little bit and that's just the general sense that I get from him. You know. Come on what do you say man? I say that we see on his guard Lebron James WE'VE SEEN GUIDANCE GUARD AD I? Don't think he was shying away from guarding. Jimmy Butler. Eight coach Mehta call and if you have a question about why he didn't switch over to guard, be Butler talked coach. That's what he was telling you. He's the one that doesn't make adjustments. He's the one that doesn't read the room. Why are you in my face? I did exactly what I was told to do. Is it because people think that superstars get to make their own decisions in that they don't actually get coached well, I wouldn't go that far to the to the extreme but I would say that superstars definitely have a lot of input in regards to specifically when it comes to like crunch time like I literally remember a story. Tim Hardaway told me this when he he played for Pat Riley and he they would come out of the huddle. PAT would call a for zero or whatever alonzo mourning and Tim. It'd be like a guys forget that. In a lot more colorful language, we're going to do what I say, and he'd go out there and shoot a three and he'd win the game Internet saying like and I've Seen Dwayne Wade blow off pat round. I've seen Kobe Bryant. Blow of Phil Jackson right like. That happens all the time in that sport and I think that there is a certain. Leeway that is given to superstars because of how great they are different than in any walk of life right? Extraordinary people are allowed extraordinary latitude. So you tell Greg to go and leave you alone because you're running the show I get it i. get it. What what's going on today's Bergman's birthdays at the deal. It is Bergman's birthday. And then I hear he was Bar Mitzvah this weekend. Burger you part Mitzvah this weekend. So so so so I get mesmerized by your conversations and so somehow we talked a lot today about Bergman's dancing skills. Yes and George. I. Also Love It when you play that Kumano Salsa music. Man. You know you. You seem like you liked it I'll Z. While it reminds me of home. We play a lot of no. We actually play a lot of like Latino and keep an end and hey, who was aboard up for the morning show as well as Janice can tell you, I will talk nonstop about you know what about this? What about this person? This person? Like I love J. Bowden I. Love Lulu I. Love this person s person so I like expanding by. Musical taste. If you will, and I'll go through long stretches of playing nothing but a Latino, I use it as a bad bunny. Until. Until I like saw him saw him I was going came with that. But there are other artists that I do appreciate. It'd be nothing for me to spend a whole week and not playing any songs that speaks drop English all-spanish. I also heard you say tonight that in terms of your own dance moves, you're feeling really confident because I think, I, heard you say that your fly you said that right? You did. Yeah, yeah, there are certain places where I'm really really comfortable basketball COURT TENNIS COURT DANCE FLOOR? Just me and my bag I'm good. Real question is, can you? Oh See I think so that's the problem. It's Kinda like golf when you go play golf which I don't really play very often. But when you go for some reason, you think you're supposed to be good but you're not and anybody who gets frustrated on golf course like why would you get frustrated? You don't play you don't practice. You're not good. You're not gonNA be good right. But when I get on a dance floor Z. For some reason, I have this feeling that I'm good. And I'm told that I'm not really very good. And I sometimes I from what I'm told the part of the big criticism is is I put my hands up over my head too much. That hands overhead not good hands under shoulders, kind of kind of better looking. Well. It depends. What are your hands doing to get up there? Well, my hands are in the air like I just don't care kind of thing you know. You need to Care Scott. You need to you need to cure my fred. Interfere and then when my hands are underneath, I've kind of got him fisted up and I've got my elbows bent and they're kind of like like straight up like I was doing curls I was at the top of the you know the the rap and they're kind of up in that position and I'm just kinda jammed with my shoulders up and down and moving side to side and told you that. Talking a lot about your upper body are you aware you have hips? Okay. Yeah secure says your hip should live Scott so I mean. Located. You told me about your wings. Yeah I. Guess I'm not a good dancer I mean I think I am but I'm not probably here we go. There you go shake your tail feather the actual song so they have. Scott Kaplan give me your top three, nine TV movies or TV shows that you would want a reunion for an honor of the fresh prince of bel-air having their reunion with the original cast including will smith on Hbo Max Okay. So I heard you guys talking about this wow will smith. Because of all the people that were on fresh prince of bel-air, who other than will smith went on to become like a really big star. Is there's somebody that I don't know of Orcas I. Think of Alphonso Ribeiro. You guys know who that is like a child star more. He was he was the guy who back way back. He played like little. Michael. Jackson yeah in the in the old Pepsi Commercials and and then he played. Carlton Carlton Right Yeah and so he was also in silver spoons before would Ricky Schroder yes and check me on this but you know those Chris Paul allstate commercial he's on those now. Yes. That's what he does now Alfonso Ribeiro. So did anybody else besides will smith go on to become like. Big We'll smith gigantic. Exhaust kind of A. Career afterwards but not not not like that. No. I guess what I'm saying is it's pretty cool. That will Smith's GonNa come back and do it sure. There's no question about that like he is a super duper mega. Star international superstar Yes for sure So giving the shows shows you want reunion by the way els I, just want you to know that I. I knew that you guys did not talk about this meaning like I heard you thinking man I could hear I could hear rattling around you pulled out Seinfeld. Absolutely. I guess you know the the way Seinfeld ended with so bad. If you're gonNA awful, right. So if you're going to do a remake of a Sitcom, I guess Seinfeld when I think of Seinfeld I always put friends together with Seinfeld. Oh No, no don't do that CAP. Why? We do not let your your inner out on friends. To show is so bad. So bad you know with bad. You know it was bad right Originals back when you look at it. I was funny. But it had one of those things where it was like, oh, it's friends and then it's Seinfeld or maybe it was Seinfeld and then it was friends and it was must see TV, and you sat for the entire hour you kind of thought it was cool like, Oh, I'm going to move to New York and I'm GonNa have a bunch of friends we're going out the coffee shop. Then we're all going to sleep together and it's GonNa be Great. It could do that without having to sit through friends. I mean listen. Listen. Here's here's the deal. I watched friends, which is why I was funny but it had funny moments. Correct. It's about the funniest moment was for me anyway was smelly cat like phoebe. phoebe was things smelly cat I thought it was funny. Everything else didn't get a real laugh. It was more like A. It was a real laugh. You think it was more like studio laughter correct and I think that great cameos on the show. They had can basically it was a rip off of living color not living in the living single. Yeah. It was a rip off of that show which was funny because. The writing was good. The physical humor was good and it was sort of original. And then when France came out, you know you're not going okay. I kinda get the casting in this talent here. But there wasn't for me a lot of great comedic timing. Mike what I think of veep when I think of Sign Phil. I just think of a great cast is working on all cylinders and for me friends wasn't that Kinda show. Yeah but let me tell you something you talking about a reunion now. So I kind of I love Jennifer Aniston, still I still have this. I still have this weird and I think she and I are going to get together some day. I'm not sure why. She's single. Is that's right I. Just I. Don't know why. But I just have this feeling that one day she and I are going to get together because if if she wasn't her and I, wasn't me and we were. Just two people just walking down the street like we'd look at each other and she'd be like I'm into that guy and I looked at her and I go I'm so into her and then it's on right from their elsie the understand. No I don't that's weird fantasy got A. Which? One of the most gorgeous women to ever work in Hollywood is just GONNA Walk Down Santa Monica Boulevard and go. WHO's that? WHO's that tall dark and handsome man but it is. Looking cool man. I'm going to be standing there like I'm cool and and you know, let's let's let's do something here. Let's I. Mean you're hot and I really am into you and and so I'm thinking about Jennifer Aniston and and Courtney Cox and. Phoebe what was her name? Lisa Cucolo yes. Joint like I'd like to see reunion I like the guy who played joey what's his name Joey? Is that his name? No. Messy Though no matter Perez. The other guy. The Blonde Matt Leblanc Mellon. Like Have you seen Matt Leblanc recently he was on a CBS show a few years ago and he was all big and Puffy. So like I'd be curious to see the. Fat. Not Jennifer and Courtney now. Guys Oh David swimmer got fed to. But he was on that people versus OJ. Show on fx he was actually which was weird to watch him there at the beginning I was like, what are they doing and then he actually was pretty good as Kardashian did good. He be because you you can't help but just seeing Ross just correct oostrum correct. Can I give you a third? I gave you Seinfeld I gave you friends didn't like friends. Let me throw one at you from from out of left field here How about? Married with children all Greg gave that one. That's an excellent one. Yes. Oh, then I don't feel so smart pretty good. Yeah. It is going to be smart just not merger talk about how about another one how about if I break out the wonder years on you wonder years good. Where's Winnie Cooper these days? Yeah, once got beat up by Jason Hervey. who was the older brother of Kevin Arnold on the wonder years Oh. Yeah. Yeah. George you'll appreciate this fountain Blue Hotel Miami. Beach. They set up a wrestling ring for WWe boy player. And and Jason Hervey told me he goes he goes Scott I knew your big wrestling fan I said Yeah I. Am he goes you know I've done a lot of wrestling training and if you want I can take you in the ring and show you a couple of moves. So I thought that mean that he was going to do some stuff to me and I was Going to do some stuff to him well, it turns out it was only him doing stuff to me he beat me up so bad for an hour. He put me through pile drivers. He threw me off the rope. He chopped me karate chopped me in the chest threw me out the ring. Wow. So I got beat up by Jason Hervey of the wonder years. Wow. Well. You can tell that story for the rest of your life not so proud of it. That's what that's. What for the books, I. Scott. Kevin what do you got coming up tonight? Good question what do we have coming up tonight a lot as a matter of fact. Tonight I am going to be talking to Chris rose from MLB network and NFL network. I also WanNa talk about something that Mason in Ireland talked about earlier today they had a whole argument about whether or not the dodgers are successful without a world series title. So seven straight division titles and Mason is like they're great and Ireland's like no not without a championship they're not great i WanNa talk about that a little bit later on I. Also WanNa Talk About College football returning I'm not sure if you guys saw that this past ed J. Long will be here the rams play by play voice. So I'm looking forward to that and Chris McGee from spectrum sports net will be here so off. Yeah is Tokyo where we say hello. I brother have a great show. Hey, back to you guys. Thank you. I'm mesmerized by your show by the way. Thank you. We appreciate that. All right. Kaplan's up. Next. Thanks to a mean. Thanks TIM KIRK FOR STOPPING BY L Z excellent work is always Same to you my friend saints you and we have a basketball game. By the way I know it's five point, five, five point game greg, Bergman Happy Birthday. You very much laura excellent work as always as well. We will talk to you tomorrow at four o'clock. Have a great rest of your night. Stay healthy stay safe Scott Kaplan is up next see.

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