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We had four games that everybody thought were gonna be great and as it turned out, three of them were pretty good. One of which was a blowout. We'll get to all them here in a minute then of course we have our week 10 lines of five games that we're gonna focus on from our SI Sportsbook odds and then from there we also have the midseason awards that we have to get to as we are halfway home in the 2023 NFL season. Before we get to all that, let's welcome the other man of the tandem, Gil, what's going on man? How you been? Yeah, I'm doing well. Matt, as you know, I like to brag about my wins and complain about my losses and last week was a good week. I went 12 -2 with the picks but I am pretty disappointed that I betted against Joshua Dobbs. What a game, right? Unbelievable. I'm annoyed. You went 12 -2, I went 11 -3 and I feel like 11 -3 should have given me some bragging rights for the week and yet it did not happen. So I will say on the whole, our group, yourself, myself, Connor, Orr, Albert Breer, Mitch and John our editors and Claire, another editor of ours as well that does great work, I feel like everybody's picks have been really pretty good this year. There are some years you look at picks and go, oh my god, I'm barely above 500. Right now, I've got the sheep pulled up in front of me, so the best record is Albert who's 95 -41, went 11 -3 last week and then after that, Claire Kawana is right behind him with 92 wins and then in gold it says 87 wins and then it's myself, yourself, John and then Connor Orr at 75 and 65 pulling up the rear, so Connor's got to step up. Connor is bringing down the credibility of this entire group. That's not bad for last play, so 10 games over 500? His thing is, we all do our upset picks and he's done 50 upset picks. I think I've done like 16. So that's part of the reason, but yeah, the picks are good and of course people that want to can read those over at SI .com, we put them out every week. The editors are nice enough to put that together. All right, so last week, like I said, we had some great games. We had Chiefs Dolphins over in Germany and then we had Ravens, Seahawks, which we thought would be a great game, turned out to be a massacre, Late Window, Cowboys, Eagles, which was one of the wildest games I can remember seeing in quite some time and then of course we had Bills, Bengals at the end, the Sunday night game there and so like I said, we'll get to all those. Let's just start with how the day actually started. Over in Frankfort, Chiefs build up a 21 -0 lead on Miami. Miami comes back, makes it 21 -14. They had a couple drives at the end where they could have tied the game, even taken the lead if they went for two. They got into Kansas City territory both times, but both times ended up going backwards, lose the game. They dropped to 6 -3. Chiefs, of course, improved to 7 -2. Both teams go on their bye weeks. I'll So, let you set the stage here, Gilberto. What is it to you, is it more about the Dolphins that game or is it more about the Chiefs? It is more about the Dolphins because they can't beat a team with a winning record and don't tell me the Chargers are .500 and the Dolphins beat them. They barely got to .500, so I am concerned about the Dolphins, but I don't want to let the Chiefs off the hook, Matt, and I know you've been writing about this, but the Dolphins have been pretty average. It got to a point where now Mahomes is saying, yeah, we sting. We're pretty bad. Go talk about the defense. That defense is carrying us the entire season. You know what's kind of funny, Matt? This season, it feels like the team with the best defense might win the Super Bowl, and the Chiefs still have the best defense right now, it feels like, so it's kind of a weird irony, but you expect better from Mahomes and Kelsey, but the wide receivers, they can't create separation. And it wasn't for that awesome fumble, reverse play, whatever it was from Cook there. They would have probably lost a game there, but what's going on with the Dolphins offense? Averaging 17 points against the Bills, Eagles, and the Chiefs, so I go with the Dolphins there because I feel like the Chiefs could figure it out. It's halfway point in the season, they're just cruising by, and I think something will finally break out there, but I'll let you maybe talk about the Chiefs a little more. But the Dolphins, man, you're supposed to be the most explosive offense, highest scoring, and you can't even get a first down. It's like, do they have too many home run hitters? Too many touchdown makers? How about some chain movers? How about some first down people? How about some quick outs, and just get four or five yards, and everything just feels like a home run, and they don't adjust, and they don't kind of make end game adjustments because credit to the Chiefs, and Tyreek Hill said it too, they covered, there was great coverage on Tyreek Hill, so it's kind of one of those games where like, why not get a tight end that can help you out here? Why not get some guys that can make it easier? How about go to Raheem Oster a little more? He had like 12 carries, and he's averaging 7 .1 yards per carry, so I don't know what's going on with Mike McDaniel on two, and two was pretty bad in that second half there. Yeah, he had the touchdown to Cedric Wilson, but make some adjustments, Mike McDaniel, and stop going for the home run ball, Tua. Yeah, look, first of all, I agree, I think the Dolphins are the bigger storyline coming out of the game. Like, they've now played three really good teams, and they've lost all three of them, and they came back against Kansas City, but they were getting killed in that game too. They were 21 -0 midway through the third quarter, and frankly, if Chris Jones doesn't take one of the dumbest personal fouls you've ever seen, it's probably 21 -7, and we're having a different discussion. I think your point though, man, is good with the Dolphins in the sense of like, there's timing strung off. They're just dead in the water. They have no answer for it, and we've seen that now multiple times, this year and last year. Kansas City basically said, we're going to get up on the line of scrimmage, we're going to get our hands on Tyreek Hill, we're going to reroute them, we're going to cause problems. Look, who knows them better than the Chiefs, right? I mean, they know what can cause some issues, and they actually went back and watched practice tape of a couple years ago to try to figure out how to stop them. They went back and watched how they worked against him in team drills and practice, and tried to figure out some things, and it obviously worked. But from the Chiefs' angle of this, listen, the offense is a disaster, okay? They had 46 yards in the second half of the game in a turnover. But they're 7 -2 in the number one seed in the AFC because the defense is incredible, and they're just shutting people down left and right. If you go and look this year at teams that have played the Chiefs, nobody's thrown for 300 yards. Kirk Cousins came the closest. He was up in the higher 200s because he threw a million passes. But if you look at Gough's numbers, 253 yards, one touchdown, which was a good game. That was without Chris Jones that week. Trevor Lawrence, they didn't score a touchdown. He threw 41 times for 216 yards. Justin Fields threw for 99 yards. Zach Wilson, of all people, had one of the best days against him, 245 and two touchdowns. That game. wild And then you had Cousins, who went for 284 and two touchdowns on 47 attempts. Russell Wilson threw for 95 yards one game, and in the other game, the game that they won, he threw for 114. These teams, two I didn't throw for 200 yards. Nobody's throwing for yardage against them. They're second in the league in sacks, the first in pressure rate. They've got two elite corners in McDuffie and Sneet, and so, look, the question with Kansas City is obvious. Can this offense get going? Because if the offense gets going, they're probably the best team in the NFL. I mean, if they get even borderline top -10 production out of that offense, forget it. They have the week now to scout. I was texting with some people around the team, and I think there's a general thought of like, look, it's a bunch of little things that are throwing off the whole thing. Question is, how many of those little things can you fix in the next couple of months? The good news is you have Mahalem, you have Kelsey, you've got a good offensive line, you've got Andy Reid. The bad news is they have you and me at receiver. So, I mean, that's the question. My guess? They'll fix it to an extent. I don't think it's going to be a unit that you'll look at and go, oh my God, they're incredible. I think it's probably going to be a top -10 unit right around there at the end of the year. They're in the mix, but yeah, I agree, man. The Dolphins are definitely the thing that you'll look at right now, and the team you'll look at right now and go, all right, you're going to make the playoffs, but what are you going to do when you get there? Are you going to beat somebody good, or is there going to be a one -and -done? Matt, let me ask a quick question, because you watch this team closely, and I think I watch them good enough because they're always on prime time, but all these analytics people are saying, look at the EPA, look at the DVOA. They're top five in offense in all these categories, and I'm like, I get it. You keep showing me the numbers, but I keep watching the games, and the wide receivers are not that great. They're not scoring points. They had nine points against Denver, so I don't know what it is. Maybe when you said disaster, I'm like, okay, cool, because I was trying to play it safe. Maybe they're average because there's something here that I'm missing with the DVOA and the EPA. They're a disaster by their standards. By anyone else's standards, yeah, they're probably still an above -average offense, but by their standards, they're a train wreck. I will say this. People forget it because they won the Super Bowl last year. They were somewhat of a train wreck offensively the first half of last year, too. They had a bunch of games last year. They lost to the Colts last year. They muddled through a Chargers game that they ended up winning because of a pick -six that went 99 yards the other way. They struggled offensively against the Bills. They ended up beating the Raiders on a Monday night last year, but they were down 17 -0, and they needed to come back in that game. They were not good offensively for stretches of last season, and then they're them. In January, they cranked it up, and that was it. Even on one ankle, Mahomes did enough to win. But this has been the year before that. They were 3 -4 at the beginning of the year. They couldn't score a point in that season. That was the year Mahomes played, again, by his standards, not by anybody else's, but by his standards. He played poorly. You go to 2021, and they lost in the AFC title game. They were 3 -4, and then people say, oh, well, then they came out of it. They did in terms of that they won games. Their point totals after that 3 -4 start, they won 20 -17, 13 -7. Then they blew the Raiders out, scored 41, 19 -9, 22 -9. The last couple of years, they've had stretches like this, but by their standards, they're a disaster offensively right now. By the NFL's standards, they're probably somewhere between 10 -12th in the league offensively. So, got to take it for what it's worth. Yeah. All right. Let's get to the next game here. The Bengals and the Bills will go right to Sunday Night Football, speaking of a team that by their standards is an offensive disaster, despite what EPA will tell you. I'm not here to bag on the analytics, guys. I will tell you this. I'm a big eye test guy. You watch the Bills. My eye test, I don't care that they're fourth or whatever in EPA offensively. They have not been good over the last month and change. I don't think there's any way to say that otherwise. They go to Cincinnati. They made it a little bit closer at the end, but they were down 24 -10 with a few minutes left. They score a touchdown. They get the two, but they can't get the ball back. The Bengals now, 5 -3. Winners of four straight playing like we expected them to play at the beginning of the year. The Bills are 5 -4. It has been a struggle for them. They started the year 3 -1. Since then, they're 2 -3 going in the other direction. They have a very hard schedule. We'll get to that in a moment. What was your main takeaway from that Bengals -Bills game? Just the difference in quarterback play between Joe Burrow and Josh Allen and how to cover that game. I wrote about it. I kept seeing Joe Burrow moving around the pocket and extending plays. Then I look at the boxer, I'm like, wait, he has four rushing yards? I thought he ran for a bunch of yards. I know he had that one where he had the first down kind of signal. It's just when pressure comes, he knows how to move. It's smooth. It's not like he has to speed it up. He just says, okay, cool. You're right there, but I'm still going to do what I have to do and just extend plays. Matt, when it's Drew Sample and Tanner Hudson and Erskine Jr., Trenton Irwin, these guys are making plays. Then you look at Josh Allen, when the pressure comes, it looks difficult. It's chaotic. He has to kind of see what's out there and then, okay, force a throw or miss a throw. I get the Bengals defense is better than the Bills defense, so Burrow had maybe an easier time, but there was pressure. He was fighting pressure. I get it. The second there is not as good there, but it just seems harder for Josh Allen.
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On his new podcast, Six Degrees with Kevin Bacon, join Kevin for inspiring conversations with his friends and fellow celebrities who are working to make a difference in the world, like actor Mark Ruffalo. You know, I found myself moving upstate in the middle of this fracking fight, you know, and I'm trying to raise kids there and, you know, my neighbors, like, willing to poison my water. Listen to Six Degrees with Kevin Bacon on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome into the Monday Morning Quarterback Podcast. It is October 4th. It is a beautiful Wednesday afternoon here outside Chicago, and there is a lot to talk to. Of course, I am Matt Verderam, and I am joined, as always, by Gilberto Manzano. Gil, how you doing? I'm doing well. A lot of blowouts, I seem like, in week four of the NFL, but, you know, other than that, another terrible Monday Night Football game, I'm okay. I feel like I would start that way. I don't know why. Yeah, the Monday Night game was a travesty, and the Giants, um, I don't know, at some point, how you don't just max protect the rest of the game. I mean, they couldn't block anybody. It was unbelievable. The Seahawks looked like the 85 Bears in that game. 10 sacks on Jones, 11 overall. But, yeah, you're right. I write that column in real time on Sunday where I'm updating throughout the day. It was funny the first couple of weeks because, really, very few blowouts happened, so I had to wait right up until the end to write a lot of those, and it was kind of a fire drill. Last week, that was not the case. Last week, I wrote a ton of them about halfway through the third quarter and then just updated the stats, although I did get burned doing that with the Bears and the Broncos because the Bears are the Bears. I almost got burned doing that with the Rams and the Colts, but the Rams held on to win, so all's well that ends well in L .A. But, you know, look, I want to steer, we're going to get to the five best games of the week, as we always do, and we're going to talk about the biggest story, which involves the Dolphins for a second straight week, and we're going to get to all that stuff, including some stuff here about the Broncos. But I want to lead off here with some of the week five storylines that I find interesting, I think are probably things that we're going to be talking about here for a while, and one of them is, C .J. Stroud last week played really, really well for Houston, and he's played well throughout the year. They're 2 -2. They just plowed Pittsburgh, 30 -6. Stroud was aggressive. He went downfield. He threw on the run. He did a fantastic job. Conversely, the Panthers are one of two teams that are 0 -4 on the year, and Bryce Young, coming off the injury, didn't play in week three, didn't play in week four. He struggled against Minnesota. It was probably the best game he's played to this point, but still very much everything underneath, everything short. The offense only accounted for six points. How pumped should Texans fans be about Stroud, and then on the other side of it, how worried should everybody in Carolina be about Bryce Young? Yeah, for Houston, let's put it this way. If you would have asked me a month ago, hey, you, Matt, telling me, we're going to start the show off with C .J. Stroud and the Texans in week five. What do you think about that? I would have laughed at you. So that shows you that the Texans are in the spotlight. They have a good quarterback, and it's funny how when you find that next quarterback, that star quarterback, you tend to get more eyeballs, more attention, more headlines. So if you're Houston, you're excited. You're ecstatic, because we all remember what happened with Deshaun Watson. That got ugly. That got messy. Now you can maybe somehow move on from that. It's still kind of a similar regime, right, different head coach, but still front office people, same owner, stuff like that. But now it feels like a fresh start. D 'Amico Ryan is doing a great job. So no interceptions, Matt. That is amazing to see. He's averaging 300 yards per game passing. So if you're Houston, you're really excited. Now with the Panthers, you're wondering, did you do something wrong? You traded up. You had the first pick. You had dibs on anybody you wanted. Anthony Richardson doing well at the same time as C .J. Stroud. And Matt, that race for Offensive Rookie of the Year, Pukunukuo, Anthony Richardson, C .J. Stroud, it's going to be tough. But if you're the Panther, you're probably asking yourself, what did we do wrong, or is it us? And you see reports about the Panthers going all in, the trade deadline, getting a wide receiver. They get some offensive lineman back. Maybe they're not panicking, but you're probably scratching your head wondering what did we do wrong here? Is it us? Is it the quarterback? Who knows? I mean, yeah, going all in for Carolina at this point is crazy. The only reason you wouldn't do that is because you don't have your first round pick. It belongs to Chicago anyway, so you're not gaining anything by being awful. The Bears are hoping they don't do that. The Bears are hoping they sit tight and have the worst pick in the draft, or the number one pick in the draft. Look, to start off with Stroud, okay, he has been everything Texans fans could have possibly wanted. As you mentioned, no picks. He's got six touchdown passes, which ranks him tied for 10th. He ranks fourth in passing yardage with just over 1 ,200. He's only behind Tua, Stafford, and Cousins. He is averaging eight yards in an attempt, only behind Tua and Brock Purdy. His QBR is 15th, which is okay, that's fine, but he's been fantastic. He's doing this with a bad offensive line that's been shuffling pieces. Tunzil's been in and out of the lineup. This is a team with Nikko Collins and Tank Dell that he's strong to, and Dalton Schultz. With all due respect to those guys, we're all good players. None of them are number one guys, guys who are going to take over a game. And he's doing it with a new coaching staff. D 'Amico Ryan is what I think has done a hell of a job. He's defensive -minded, right? Sloake comes in as the offensive coordinator, and this is his first time in that seat. The coming Texans into this season had won 10 games in three years combined. The last three years, they've won 10 games. I don't know if they're going to get to 10, but I've got to tell you, if you're the Texans, this is by a mile the most fun you've had in a long time, whether or not it was on the field or the off -the -field ugliness with Deshaun Watson. And I've got to tell you, if you look at the Texans' schedule, and part of this, of course, is the division they play in, it's not exactly Murderers Row here. Falcons, Saints, Panthers, Bucks. Next four weeks, you'll get the four NFC South teams. You win any of those games. Then you play at the Bengals, which normally you'd go, that's a brutal game, but who knows right now? The Bengals, what the hell is going on with them, right? Who knows what brothers you can play in that game? Then after that, the Cardinals, the Jags at home, the Broncos at home, the Jets, the Titans, the Browns, the Titans, the Colts. I mean, does any team in the league have a more favorable schedule than that? So I love what I'm seeing. I love what they're doing. They look great. I'm really happy for the fans in Houston. On the flip side, with Young, I think it's fair to say both. You've got to be patient. It's three games into his career because he missed a one. On the other hand, yeah, there's definitely cause for concern here. He is averaging 4 .9 yards in attempt, which ranks 33rd in the NFL. There are 32 teams. He ranks 33rd. And he is almost a full yard behind Gardner Minshew, who ranks 32nd. He is dead last of all quarterbacks who qualify for QBR. 33 qualify, he's dead last to 24 .9. He has two touchdowns and two picks and yardage per game, not just total yardage because that would be unfair to him, obviously. Yardage per game, you'll look at him and he's way at the bottom, man. The only guys he's ahead of right now are Anthony Richardson, Gardner Minshew, of course, both on the Colts, and Dorian Thompson Robinson, who played essentially one game. So you'll look at this and go, okay, we know the line hasn't been good, but Frank Reich should be a good coach for him. He's a former NFL quarterback. He's coached a lot of different quarterbacks in his recent years with the Colts. It has not gone well. The offensive line has not been good. I'm not ready to push the panic button yet on Bryce Young, but I think it's fair to say that this has been ugly to start. And if you're Carolina, you're looking at Richardson, you're really looking at Stroud going, did we screw this up? Because it doesn't look great early. Yeah, man, that's a good point about the coaching side. You thought that Carolina Panthers bringing in so many well -known coaches. Josh McCown, former quarterback. Thomas Brown did good things with the Rams and Sean McVay. And like you mentioned a couple of weeks ago, they keep putting the training wheels on this guy. Let him go out there, let him learn from his mistakes and getting a better flow. And it does suck having the injury. You miss a game. You're trying to come back against Minnesota. Brian Flores doing the safety blitz with Harrison Smith. I'm sure that could fluster you a little bit. But then you mentioned it with Houston. It's kind of the same thing. The surroundings are not ideal for Houston either, and C .G. Stroud is doing well. And the thing I'll end here for the point on the rookie is like, are we seeing C .G. Stroud just being the most prepared quarterback because he's so accurate, a bigger size? You just get the ball to your playmakers and let them do their thing. Or is this like the beginning of Joe Burrow? Is it more like Dak Prescott? And I can't tell with C .G. Stroud because he's so good at the fundamentals and being accurate. With Anthony Richardson, you see a higher ceiling, but he's not quite there as C .G. Stroud. So I just wonder, does the ceiling get higher? Is this Joe Burrow kind of level of accuracy? Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see it all play out. But Stroud has been absolutely fantastic.
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I'm Connor O 'Rourke. We've got Mitch Golding here for what is undoubtedly my favorite day of the year, and that is relaying the results of me picking all 272 games on the NFL calendar. I have Mitch here because he is the editor that actually has to fact check the most ridiculous thing on our content calendar. I don't think it's even close. And also to do all of the tiebreakers. So I should ask you first, Mitch, how are you feeling about all of this? I'm great. I love the NFL tiebreakers. This is me in my element. I wish I could just spend my entire year doing nothing but NFL tiebreakers. I think I'd be very good at the, you know, the basically Steve Kornacki after one of the recent election cycles, they just started letting him do it on Sunday Night Football. He comes on the pregame show and the halftime show. I could do that job. Now, I love Steve Kornacki, and so I'm not trying I'm not coming for his job and I'm not trying to say that he is bad at his job, but I think that's like a role for me that I could easily handle. Just put me on there talking about tiebreakers. Oh, I love it. But Connor, I have to ask you, is this really one of your favorite days of the year? Because that's a classic thing that you say now. Let's go behind the curtain. We are taping on Wednesday and this will be revealed Thursday. I know you. You will be a ball of stress. You will be getting requests for radio shows in cities where you said their team is going to go 5 and 12. You're going to have fans yelling at you. I think you're going to be a little bit stressed tomorrow. So just try to remember right now this feeling of how happy you claim to be and try to just keep that in mind tomorrow when when people start slinging their arrows at you. You're right, Mitch. I think that the day when, you know, all radio stations want to have you on to either praise your pick or be skeptical of your pick or fight your pick. I famously got into sort of a verbal fisticuffs with a Cincinnati radio host before the year that they went to the Super Bowl. I had them projected for four wins. And I think I said over and over on the air, find me more than four wins on that schedule. I think Joe Burrow did that and then some. He got him. And but since then, you know, come full circle and everybody in the playoffs alone, which is why if you're a loyal listener to the podcast, you know, I became a Bengals fan. So it's all good. It all. Yeah. Oh, we buried the lead. Connor, how was your first week as a Bengals fan? It was great. Although if anyone listened to the podcast last week, I was between the Bengals and the Ravens. And so my wife and I watched the Ravens commanders preseason game where the streak was broken. And I got I got kind of emotional. I mean, you can read what I wrote about it and but I thought this was a very big thing. And I was very standing on the table ish for John Harbaugh and the Ravens in that moment. But I had to get that out of the back of my head. They're division rivals. And just because I almost picked them doesn't mean that I can't root against them. And so full steam ahead. We're just waiting for news on Joe Burrow like everybody else. Mitch. Yeah, it's interesting. Now everything we read of yours will be through the lens of is he being a biased fan here or is he being objective? And I don't know. I don't know. We'll find out. At least now your biases are out in the open for for all to know. I think it's going to be a fun bit to just fully jump from. I just picked this team yesterday to where have you been? I'm a dyed in the wool Bengals fan. I love Skyline Chili. Have you ever had Skyline Chili? I have. I like Skyline Chili. I know it's controversial. I like it. I'm I'm I'm a supporter. What's your like what's your workup? Do you do the whole thing? I don't. I think so. So I have not had it in a long time. So I couldn't tell you the details, but I well, let me try to remember. I think it's like five ways. I like all this, all the stuff on it. It's possible that it has gotten more ridiculous since I've been there and they're putting on like absolutely crazy numbers of toppings just for Instagram or whatever. But last I remember it was the the spaghetti, the chili, the cheese, the onions. There might have been a fifth one. The sort of I feel like I went there for the first time, right before sort of it became a thing on the Internet that people liked to complain about or argue about or say was disgusting or whatever. And so I don't know, there may have been changes in the years since, but but whatever the classic like as of the year 2010 way is the way that I've had it with with all the stuff available to me in that time. Nice. I yacked in a Skyline bathroom once because I just couldn't. The mountains of cheese. I don't like cheese, but I had a friend order it for me. And so I think if I had to do it again, I would do the spaghetti, the chili and the onions and maybe that would be something I could maybe that be something I could stomach and walk away from. I'm not going to disparage Skyline chili because my roommate used to make a really good Skyline chili dip in college. So I think if I could bring that back somehow, I'm pro Skyline. There's nothing quite like it anyway. So no, no, no, no. Don't anyway. Me. I have more Skyline chili takes. Let me give you a pro podcast is brought to you by Skyline. By the way, I have had, I have been to a Skyline chili establishment and I have had it there in the restaurant. I also, I have been to one Cincinnati reds game at, I think it was called great American ballpark at the time and it has some other new stupid corporate name now, but I ordered it at the reds game and you know, at the restaurant it comes on a plate and you're right. It's piled high with all that cheese. At the baseball game, it came in like a plastic Tupperware kind of situation with a lid and they closed the lid so that you could walk with it to your seat and that process of closing the lid. It got so hot in there that all of the cheese melted and it was excellent that cause you're right. It's the, the cheese restaurant. It's like straight out of the bag, just like the, you know, cold shredded cheese where it's the little pieces, but, but uh, in the Tupperware melted all this hot gooey cheese all over everything else I thought was a, it was a great way to enjoy it. So I have no idea if it still comes like that. This could all be different. I think that was back in maybe 2007 so we're, we're talking about a long time ago, uh, me remembering this chili that I had, uh, but loved it at the ballpark with the melted cheese. It's still great American ballpark by the way. Oh, interesting. Which is a, which so great American is an insurance company. Uh, so it is a company name, however, it's just called the great, like if you called it the great American ballpark, I feel like that's solid. Um, that's going to go down a, uh, that's going to go down a rabbit hole, but all right, I'm glad we landed there at skyline chili. Obviously as big of a bangles fan as I am, I'm going to need to learn to stomach that. I'm going to find the way that I like it. If anybody listens to this podcast and lives in Cincinnati and wants to tell me how to enjoy without skyline cheese, please leave your rating in a review and your ideal skyline markup because then that way I can, uh, I can try to duplicate it when I'm out there trying to get some season tickets and uh, you know, did you hear from any bangles fans this week? I did. Um, I got, I got welcomed with open arms. I'm, I'm pretty excited about it. I do feel like this is the right time to get in. I feel like the super bowl year would have been a little rough.
A highlight from Part 1: USAs World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism, Life in The G-League and The OC 20 Years Later | with Gabe York and Zoe Simmons
"Coming up, an unexpected two -part podcast cameo from me. It's next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where we turned over Sean Fennesey and Amanda Dobbins' big picture feed to Brian Raftery. It's a narrative podcast called, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. You can find it on the big picture starting on Tuesday. And it is an idea I'm really excited about because it came from a class that I did as a senior in college in 1992. Me and my friend Horgs talked a movies professor into doing a special Vietnam War movies class where we watched basically every Vietnam War movie that had been made up to 1992 and then tried to write a big picture term paper about it. And the thing that was really fascinating about that class and something that stuck with me was just that whole concept of Hollywood reinventing the entire Vietnam experience under the premise of, Did We Get to Win This Time? So we got Brian involved and he turned the idea into an awesome, awesome podcast. I even went and dug up the term paper that I wrote 31 years ago. I thought it was gonna be horrendous. It wasn't bad. I was kind of proud of myself, retroactively 31 years later. Anyway, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. It is gonna be in the big picture podcast starting on Tuesday. So that's one piece of business. Second, new rewatchables on Monday night. It is the 300th movie that we've done. It's a special one. We're doing National Lampoon's Vacation. It was time. Meet Chris Ryan, Van Lathan. Yeah, and Van was pushing for it because we wanted to do Christmas Vacation during the holidays and you can't do Christmas Vacation. If we do National Lampoon's Vacation, super fun. Can't wait for you to listen to it. And we'll be running the video at some point on the YouTube channel, youtube .com slash Bill Simmons, where we put up a whole bunch of rewatchables podcasts in case you missed it. Boogie Nights is up there now. Goodfellas, Independence Day, just a slew of them. So if you're bored and you wanna throw on some rewatchables and watch us make fun of each other, there you go. Last but not least, I don't wanna say this is the most important, but it's certainly the thing I spent the most time on. Our documentary that we did about the G League with Religion of Sports and Ringer Films, we combined, and it is premiering on Tuesday, August 8th. It is called Destination NBA, A G League Odyssey. It's really good. We immersed ourselves into the G League season. We followed Scoot Henderson, Gabe York, Ryan Terrell, Mason Jones, and Denzel Valentine. And the big question was, what is this world like? What's it like to be in the G League? And I am really proud of where we landed with it. And we even have, much later in this podcast, Gabe York is gonna come on. He's one of the five that we followed, and he's gonna tell us what it's like as you're holding on to your dream in your late 20s. We try not to spoil the doc too much with Gabe, but I really liked him. He's probably the guy that jumps out of the doc in the most sympathetic way. So look forward for you to watch it. It is prime video, Tuesday, August 8th, Destination NBA. A G League Odyssey. You love basketball, just watch it, it's good. So there you go. This is gonna be part one of a two -part podcast. Gabe is coming up later. My daughter Zoe Simmons is coming up later because we did a whole bunch of OC stuff on the Prestige TV podcast. I was even on two of the episodes. But I ended up watching season one of the OC. And my daughter was watching with us and loved the show. And she was born a year and a half after it premiered. So me and her broke down season one from the perspective of what is it like when somebody 18 watches the OC, a show that is now two decades old. The anniversary was actually August 6th. And what she liked, what she didn't like, what people aren't doing anymore for her kind of audience. And we just dove into it. So that is much later. First, coming out of the gate, I'm gonna open a six -pack because we have a lot to discuss over the past three weeks, all the stuff I missed. So that's gonna be part one. And then part two, which is gonna go up later on Sunday night, me and Rossello doing this evergreen idea that we've always wanted to do. And this seemed like the perfect time because nothing's happening in basketball. So that's gonna be part two later tonight. Part one coming up. First, our friends from ProJax. What's up? All right, I'm taping this. It is Sunday afternoon Pacific time. And I'm gonna open a six -pack. There's a bunch of stories in sports and culture that happened over the last three weeks. I was just writing stuff down, things that would have been fun for podcast segments. I was just like, man, I wish I could have given my thoughts on that. Just gonna rip through them. So I have six and then maybe a couple bonus ones at the end. The first one, the biggest one, was the US women's soccer team, which lost today in penalty kicks to Sweden, scored zero goals in the last two games, scored one goal in the last three games, and that was off a corner kick. You could feel from the beginning that something was off with this team. It was all the ways. You knew in a checklist of what are the red flags? There were just red flags galore. And the only person who was really calling it out in time over and over again was Carli Lloyd, who was doing the Fox studio show. And she was the one person in the horror movie who knows the house is haunted. And everyone's like, shut up. You're not being patriotic. You just wish you were still on the team. She was right. She was right from the get -go. This team, you could see it before the Vietnam game when it was like, look at the new Nike suits. Look at these new suits. And they're all like styling as they head into the locker room. And they're running commercials. And every player has a commercial. There's players who've never done anything of that commercials. And the vibe was just off. They only beat Vietnam three -nothing in a bracket where goal differential was gonna be super -duper important. And that was a huge red flag. And we did the usual thing that we've been doing since 2019, 2015 of, oh, well, they almost scored a bunch of times. Oh, well, if that had gone in or some bad luck. There was just an arrogance to this team. Like they were carrying themselves like the defending champs, the same way like the Denver Nuggets would go into next NBA season. Like we're the champs. I was like, yeah, you are the champs because the season just happened. The World Cup happened four years ago. Everyone's four years older or wasn't on the team. And you could see they wanted to build the team instead of around the identity of, here are these new up and coming awesome stars that are gonna be in your life. They were really latching on to Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe. Alex Morgan's 34, Megan Rapinoe's 37. I think one of the differences between the discourse with women's sports and men's sports is that in men's sports, we grasp for angles. And if somebody is disappointing in some way, we really go nuts. Like think of how James Harden's been treated over the last 12 years. So he's one of the 35 best players ever and has taken just an incredible amount of shit. Oh my God, the playoffs, look at his game log. Oh, he choked again. Alex Morgan, who scored twice in her first two games in the World Cup in 2011, she scored once in 2015 in seven games. She scored six times in 2019, five against Thailand in a game that was 13 to nothing, one in the other six, and then scored nothing in the four games this time around. If you take away that Thailand game, she has scored two goals in the last 17 World Cup games. This is the striker. This is the one who's supposed to be the most dangerous player in the field, who's supposed to produce goals. And she hasn't produced goals since the mid 2010s on the national level. And yet it's Alex Morgan. She was supposed to be the next one. We got to keep propping her up and pretending she's a superstar. She's not a superstar. She's really honestly never been a superstar. She certainly hasn't been as impactful as somebody like Abby Wambach was. So you have the team built around her. She's got to play. They play her the entire game, game two, the entire game, game three. She plays like 95 minutes in this game today, and they don't score goals. And the announcers just won't talk about it. It's like being on an AYSO team that your kid's on, and the coach is playing somebody at striker, and everyone's like, why don't they play Sally at striker instead of the coach's daughter? It's like, oh, you know, the coach's daughter. She's got to play there. So you have that, and then you have Rapinoe, who's 37 years old, who's just, unfortunately, great career, legendary, true legend, huge big time player. And when you hit your late 30s in soccer, it's a wrap. She looked like Yudana Rapinoe, not big Rapinoe, and comes out for the last 25 minutes of this game and can't do anything, and then misses the penalty kick. That's the thing. If you're beholden to past performance, you can't expect to succeed in the moment. And I did feel like, what were this team's strengths? Speed. They had Sophia Smith, who really was bad the last three games on the left wing. Like, she just, she couldn't even connect passes. Trinity Rodman, who's a beast. Lynn Williams, who's super fast and athletic and had some really nice moments the last two games. And then Alyssa Thompson, who's the prodigy, who's the, you know, potential tiger or LeBron of this team. 18 years old, best high school player I've ever had. They won't even throw her out there. But this was not a team that could connect passes. They weren't, like, especially creative. The coaching was just bizarre, and we'll never see that guy again. But it was like, the one thing they did have was speed, especially the forwards, and they just threw that away. And Alex, you know, couldn't do anything. So now they're out. It's the most disappointing finish of the last 25 years for the women's team. And it reminds me in a lot of ways that 2004 Olympic basketball team that we had, the USA team. And I tweeted this, I think after the second game, because that was a team that was between eras, like this one was, where all the best players on that 2014, the ones in their primes, weren't that good, except for Duncan. And Duncan was completely banged up. He'd played so many NBA games the last couple of years. I think his knee was hurt. But, you know, it was Iverson and Marbury. The talent, it just was a between eras. And you had guys on the bench, like LeBron and Carmelo and Wade, who were four years away. Kobe wasn't on the team. And it just felt generationally, like we caught that team in the wrong time. The style was wrong. And we learned all these lessons and we moved on. 2008, we win. There's a documentary about it. But this team felt like it was between eras. The Alex Morgan, Rapinoe era, which was basically done. And then you have this era coming up with Rodman and Sophia Smith and Alyssa. And, you know, it's just four years from now, we'll probably be fine. But they need to re -imagine this. And I think if you're gonna learn any lesson from this, it doesn't matter what happened four years ago. It's the World Cup. It matters what's happening now. So that's one thing. Second thing. So Jaylen Brown gets this huge contract, $304 million. Some people seem surprised that it was that much money. Chris Ryan even took a shot at it when we did our library watchables. Hurt my feelings a tiny bit. Mainly because I didn't really have a comeback. Rosella did something on his podcast about how this actually makes sense. This amount of money, when you think of how the salary cap has climbed just since 2015, and it's gonna keep climbing. And there's this world you can go into where you think about just how much everything is gonna cost in the NBA four or five years from now, that Jaylen Brown at $70 million isn't actually gonna be that intimidating. The same way we feel about Tobias Harris for $40 million now, or Klay Thompson, $40 million now. Yeah, you don't really wanna pay $40 million for Klay Thompson, but you can survive it. And I think that's gonna be where the Celtics land with Jaylen. Here's why they had to do it. They're the favorites on FanDuel right now. They're plus 470. The thing that made them the most special and has made them the most special for the last five, six years is the Jaylen Brown -Jason Tatum combo. They've been incredibly successful. The team itself has made five conference finals in the last seven years. They came super close to making the finals last year. I have now gone into the what if zone with that Celtics team where what if Tatum doesn't hurt his ankle on the first play? Do we beat Miami? They were close is the point. And when you're that close, you can't fuck around. This is not Bradley Beal resigning with Washington for 50 million a year when everybody knows you can't get past the eight seed with Bradley Beal. This is different. You're trying to win a title. You're trying to keep all your optionality open. The thing that's a little scary about it, nobody seems to totally know if he wants to be in Boston. This is something we've discussed on this pod. It's been floating out there. The fact that he wasn't happy about landing in the Kevin Durant trade rumors a couple years ago. And just in general, where the league is now, where as Woj called it, the transfer portal, where people get their contract first and then they decide what they want to do. And I think for the Celtics, they know they bought themselves a year with Jalen and they are still one of the favorites to win the title. And a lot of it's going to depend on health and Porzingis. You could also, I don't want to make the case, but you might be able to make the case that Brown had a fucked up hand last year. Cause he did. Cause he sliced his hand open. It was bleeding even during the Philly series. And maybe that was why his ball handling went sideways. Listen, you got to do the contract. It just breaks your brain. I remember a million years ago, Sports Illustrated and Inside Sports say every year they would have like a salary issue. And they would talk about these guys are making $1 million a year. And it seemed like so much money. And now where we're heading with the money, plus the NBA is the meteorites deal. The moment any of these guys becomes unhappy, what do you do? Because you're paying Jalen, let's say you're paying him 55 million a year. Plus he is the trade kicker, which the team has to pay. Right? So if he decides after a year, you know what? I'm tired of being the scapegoat. Everybody loves Jason. I'm like the middle brother of this team. I want my own team. I want to go to Houston or Atlanta. You got to trade me. What are the Celtics going to do? On top of who would want out, you don't have a lot of options and you turn into what the situation Portland's in with Deem. And then on top of it, it's so much money. It's impossible to get any sort of a fair trade for the guy. So they had to do it. And optionality the that comes out of it is frightening. I remember in the early 2000s, when the first time the contracts kind of went nuts and you would see that people get signing like six -year, $100 million deals, seven -year, $110 million deals. And the Celtics really, really stupidly traded for Vin Baker. One of the worst trades of the last 30 years for Boston Sports. A trade so bad, you knew it instantaneously. And I wrote a piece that you can probably find somewhere in the ESPN archives about it, where I compared it to the end of Thelma Louise when Harvey Keitel is running toward the cliff trying to stop the car from going off the cliff. That's how I thought about the Vin Baker trade when it happened. Then it happens and you just had this salary albatross. It's a salary cap league. And you're like, wow, we just threw away 20 % of our salary cap on this trade. There's going to be a couple of those that are just franchise killers. And whether that leads to them bringing back the amnesty clause, who knows? I wish, I've made this, I've had this idea before. I wish that they had a rule in there that if you drafted a guy, every year that he stays in the team, you get rewarded in some way from a salary cap luxury tax type thing, right? So Jaylen was 2016 draft, this would be his eighth year. Maybe like after the seventh year, because that's usually like the third contract. The guy stays in the team, maybe each year after that, he doesn't count for 2 % of the luxury tax, up to like 30%, something like that. The point is the Warriors should be rewarded for keeping Draymond and Klay and Curry from a tax standpoint, that they were that smart to draft those guys, keep those guys together. They should be incentivized, the players, to want to stay with them because there's some luxury tax stuff that the team gets. And the team should want to be incentivized to take care of those guys because it's also beneficial to them. I just wish they figured out some version of that rule. Anyway, Jaylen was always signing for $304 million. Talk to me in a year, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Next thing, I missed the running back pity party. This was crazy. The running backs all got together and they were really upset about how much money they made. And I don't know what to tell you. There's too many running backs and not enough running back spots. And I don't know if you're trying to build a responsible salary cap team in a collectively bargained era, why would you spend $30 million over two years on a running back unless the running back was awesome? Nobody even wants to spend more than $11 million on running back. So I knew that this was crazy when Damien Harris, who was on the Patriots, who I thought was really good. He's maybe not an elite running back, but a good running back, right? Somebody that if he had been on the Chiefs, he easily could have started for the Chiefs. And he signed with the Bills for like one year, 2 million. And when that happened, combined with Pacheco on the Chiefs' seventh round pick, they won the Super Bowl with him. It's just, this position's devalued. I work on this player, I've been actually working on it the last couple of weeks where I try to rank the players for blue chippers, red chippers, pink chippers, honorable mention, and have this whole point system. And so quarterbacks, Mahomes, who's the alpha of that position, he's worth 10 points. And you could even see this in the point spread. If Mahomes gets hurt, the Chiefs are 10 points, nine points, whatever, less than what they would be as a favorite. They'd switch to an underdog. And you go on down the line. Jalen Hurts, I had him as an eight. I had Joe Burrow as a nine. And you go on, you keep going down, and it's like, Geno Smith's probably a two. But then you look at some of the other positions and you have to value them the same way the salary cap values them and teams value them. Guards, they aren't worth that much. Running backs, sorry, they're not worth that much. My top running back was three points because ultimately running backs don't really matter that much. In the last like five, six years, I would say Derrick Henry was the only running back that you could definitively say, this guy almost won the Super Bowl. Like he was that good. Other than that, you know, it's plug and play, quarterbacks, it's receivers. It's much harder to find the number one receiver. Every team needs one. It's much more tangible if you don't have the number one receiver. And it's much easier to just kind of scrap together the running back position. And yet people went nuts about this. We ironically had this in the NBA with centers. You know, Vucevic, who's a really good offensive player, he signed for 60 million for three years, 20 million a year. And Jaylen Brown's going to make $52 million a year. Is Jaylen Brown two and a half times better than Vucevic? No, it's just, he plays a way more important position. You can only play one center at a time. You can patch together the center position. You could have like Isaiah Hartenstein for $8 million. You could, you know, get Robert Williams for 16. You don't need to spend what Phoenix did on Eaton where they're paying $8 and $30 million a year at center. And you don't really need to do that. You kind of feel obligated if you don't want to lose the asset. But I think the NBA is going to go this way eventually where unless it is Jokic or Embiid, the center or Bam Adebayo, it's a bonus. You could argue that was already an overpay. They gave him a huge extension. The Lakers just gave Anthony Davis $60 million a year as an extension. I would argue that's a little frightening. I feel like you could patch together the center position. What really matters in basketball is having the creator. And this was the argument five years ago with Luka versus Eaton for the number one pick. And I made this argument. It was like, go look at who wins the NBA title every year. It's always the people who have the creator. There's somebody who's on the perimeter of the ball in their hands. Even Jokic, who wins the title this year, he was a creator. He's not a typical center, right? He's basically their point guard on offense who could post up. So this happened in the NBA. Nobody went nuts. And this is happening in football. And is this where football is. If you want to make the most amount of money playing in the NFL, I don't know why you would be a running back. I would be a cornerback. I would be a wide receiver. I'd be an edge rusher. But if you're a running back, you know your shelf life's probably like five, six years. You know the money is not totally gonna be there. Now they're in this, like you have people like JK Dobbins, like, I might hold out. It's like, really? You didn't barely even play in the field. Barkley said he was gonna hold out. And then, you know, probably looked at it. And the money for Barkley is like 10, 11 million. That's unfortunately the market. So you can't fix this. They collectively bargained it. And until we get to the next CBA, I don't know how you fix it. I thought it was really weird. It felt like people had nothing to talk about. And it was like, ah, let's feel bad for running backs. All right, let's take a break. And then I'm gonna finish the rest of the six pack. All right, picking up on the six pack. We're gonna talk a little more football. I talked about the running back pity party. This is a different kind of party. The Jets optimism, which has just been stunning to me over the course of July. I have Jets fans in my life. These are people that usually have no hope and are very reminiscent of the pre -2004 Red Sox fans, just assuming the worst at all times. Why does God hate us? All that stuff. And now they have this crazy optimism based on the fact that they brought in Aaron Rodgers, who I did not think was very good last year, just throwing that out there. I wouldn't say he was bad, but for Rodgers, he was bad. I mean, we thought Rodgers was, he was the reigning MVP and we thought he was still one of the five or six most impactful players in the league. And I don't wanna read stats to you for the next six minutes, but deep balls, he was bad. Turnovers, he was bad. Leadership, he was bad. And the case for Rodgers coming back would be, well, he's gonna be rejuvenated. The Jets, New York City. This is his team. He got away from Green Bay. He's got Hackett back. I get it, but he's also at an age where we've really only seen Tom Brady succeed at a high, high level at the age that Rodgers is at. I was trying to figure it out. I have my QB ratings and I had, you know, the top tier is Mahomes and Burrow and Allen and Herbert and Hertz. Those have to be the top five. Then it drops off and it's Lamar Jackson and Lawrence. And then Rodgers, probably a hair underneath him with a chance to play himself up with those guys. But from what we saw last year, I'm not ready to put him there. So he's the 10th best quarterback in the league, probably. 10th or ninth best quarterback in the league, probably. Well, they have no offensive line. And I don't understand why people keep glossing over this where it's like, hey, Rodgers and Garrett Wilson, he's one of the best receivers in the league and Breece Hall's going to come back and the defense is really good. And it's like, yeah, the offensive line is terrible. Beckton and Dwayne Brown, sure tackles again. And then you have Robert Salah as the coach, who I cannot say I thought that Jets were crisply coached last year. Whatever he was doing with Zach Wilson was insane. No idea if that guy's even a decent coach. So I'm already worried about your offensive line, the age of your quarterback, and the competency of your coach. And that's before we get into the hard knocks curse, because for some reason they're doing hard knocks, the incredible Super Bowl hype already. And then we have the schedule, which is the AFC East has just got screwed by the schedules this year. The Jets, just for quarterbacks in 17 games, they got to play Josh Allen twice, they got to play Mahomes, Herbert, Hertz, Dak Prescott, and Deshaun Watson. And then they also have to play Miami twice. We'll see what we get out of two this year. And then a really good Pats defense. And then Denver, who knows, they might be rejuvenated. So Danny Dimes, they have to play him. It is a brutal schedule, so you have that. And then on top of everything else, you're the Jets. I was there with the Red Sox before 2004, and this is probably just as bad, where you just think the worst possible things can happen is all the time. You're not allowed to have optimism when you're Jets fans. You can be cautiously optimistic. There was an entire Curb Your Enthusiasm episode once, season 10, episode seven, about being a Jets fan. And it was called, I think, the ugly section. Nick Kroll was the maitre d'. And part of the episode was about, he would put these people in different sections of the restaurant, depending on how attractive they were. But there was this other plot, Larry's buddy who loved the Jets, kills himself. And Larry becomes convinced it was because of the Jets, that the Jets killed his friend. This was only a couple of years ago. So now they get Aaron Rodgers, and everything's good. And they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I don't see it, guys. I don't wanna step on my football stuff too much, but I'd be shocked. And Lombardi points out the defense that everybody's ready to compare to the 85 Bears. Lombardi said they had two turnovers over the last eight games last season. So that means something too. I am dubious, to say the least. If you're gonna tell me a tortured franchise actually turns it around this year, I want a tortured franchise that doesn't have expectations. Because the Lions are another one. Everybody's ready to put them in the Super Bowl or close. And the only case for them is just pretty explosive offense. They couldn't stop anybody last year. And the NFC is terrible. But that's another one where is that a fan base that should be super excited and have a ton of hype? The one that's kind of lurking that fits in this group is the Browns. Because the Browns are actually super talented. They're in a winnable division. Burroughs already hurt. And I think they're four to one to win the AFC North on FanDuel, something like that. Their over -under is, I think it climbed up.
Judge Amul Thapar Reveals His Surprising Sports Allegiance
"Because Amul Judge Kapar, in his brand new and terrific book, The People's Justice, cites the Judith French Counsel in the Cleveland voucher's case, used to get psyched up using this music. Good morning, Judge. Welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show. Good morning. Can you hear me okay? I can. It's great to see you. Welcome. Glad you could do the video, Judge. Judge, I wanna begin by telling people a little bit about you, if they don't know much about you. You've been shortlisted for the Supreme Court twice. You're still a young man. I expect that to happen again. Born in Michigan, and your father wisely moved you to Ohio at a young age. I hope you grew up cheering for the Buckeyes and the Browns. Is that the case, Judge? You know, I'm not anti -Browns like you are anti -Bangles, but Joe Burrow and the Bengals living down by Cincinnati, it doesn't get much better than that. And so when the Bengals are out of it, I cheer for the Browns. I like them much better than those teams out east. And the cardiac kids were fun to watch as a kid, and Brian Sipe, and Bernie Kosar. But the Bengals are at least making it to the Super Bowl view, and this year we get to open and close with you. That's half a wrong answer, but let me press you, because Urban Meyer's listening right now, Judge. Were you a Buckeyes fan? Because you went to the Ohio State Law School for one year, then you transferred out to Bolt. Are you a Buckeyes fan, or did you root for that team up north? You know, my dad's a Michigan guy. I started with Michigan, but once I went to Columbus, it's infectious.
Patrick Mahomes plays through ankle sprain, leads Chiefs to third Super Bowl in four years
"Be done. Greg eklund was that the chief's Bengals nail biter. 45 yard field goal by kicker Harrison butker with three seconds left in the game gave the Kansas City Chiefs a 23 to 20 win over the Cincinnati Bengals. Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, played with a high ankle sprain and attributed his success to the chief's training staff. At the end of the game there, I had to run to get the first down and got us into fill Lorraine. So credit to them. And then just trying to stay on it and we have two more weeks. So we got to keep doing it. The Super Bowl will have a bit of a sibling rivalry, as chiefs tight end Travis Kelce tries to take a Super Bowl from brother Jason, the eagle center. You won't see me talking too much trash because of how much respect on how much I love my brother, but it's definitely going to be a, it's going to be an emotional game. That's for sure. Bengals quarterback Joe burrow says they just didn't do enough when it mattered. He's got to find ways and it
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"Big moments. And do you believe in yourself? I thought we saw moments with Patrick Mahomes in the AFC championship game against Cincinnati to end their season. In the second half, we're Patrick Holmes looked like he was his confidence was shaken and his entire decision making paradigm was actually a little off kilter. Cam rising is going to have that problem. Cam rising is very, very stable and steady. And I'm very very excited to watch this guy next year. At Utah. The number 7 quarterback I can't wait to watch next year in college football. Is bow nicks. He has transferred from auburn to now he is in Eugene at the university of Oregon. Here is the story with Bowen nicks. Can he elevate himself to become a top level quarterback and become an NFL quarterback? He's really talented. He can run. He's a big dude. He's got all the physical traits required. And if he has a really great year at Oregon, I think he could skyrocket and just massively jump up the charts. The same way actually Joe burrow did in 2019 with LSU. There's potential here for a really big opportunity where he could just impress a ton of people. And maybe turn himself into a first round pick. So keep your eye on bone nicks. I am very curious if he will reach his goals at Oregon, but I think he needed a change. I think that he's going to play with maybe some better more talented athletes around him and I'm just very, very interested and excited to see how Boeing does this fall at the university of Oregon. Number 8 is Jackson dart. Jackson art another USC quarterback. Dude, USC and Oklahoma had just a glut. I just a crazy amount of talent at the quarterback position last year. He is transferring from USC to the university of what is it? I guess old miss. I don't actually know. Is it university Mississippi? Is it I don't know how I don't actually know the official name of illness other than I call it all miss the rebels. I wish I knew that. I feel weird that I don't know that. Anyway, he did not want to compete with Caleb Williams. I can not blame him. The minute it felt like, hey, Caleb Williams is going to transfer to USC..
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"But I know that his story and his interviews, he's a guy who I think if I was at coach, I would have much more comfortable working for than in Philadelphia. That's for sure. And Doug Peterson is going to take a lot of risks is going to go four to fourth down. I think he's a great fit for Trevor Lawrence. That's what this hire is all about is getting a coach that can really get the most out of your young quarterback. And it's undeniable that Doug Peterson is so much better than urban Meyer was urban Meyer was a train wreck and this won't even be close. There's some young talent in Jacksonville. I love the higher. I really, if I'm a Jaguar fan, I'd be very, very excited. He's a proven winner who knows quarterbacks and he's certainly not at all a dictator type that urban Meyer was, so I think it's a shockingly good hire by the Jaguars. They found a guy that I think a lot of people were overlooking or not paying attention to and I am very, very positive and very, very excited to see how things go with Doug Peterson as a new head coach in Jacksonville. Water first and we'll get into the Raiders. So let's talk about the Raiders new head coach, Josh McDaniels. He was the Patriots offensive coordinator for a total of 13 years. And when he was hired by the Raiders, a lot of people responded to what I said by saying that, you know, coaches from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, do not work. And I think that's a fair criticism. I really, I hear that counterpoint to my excitement about Josh McDaniels being higher than I go. I understand where you're coming from, actually. I think it's a good point to bring up and a good concern. And when I think of the Bill Belichick coaching tree, never not mind I don't count Nick Saban Nick Saban did not work in the NFL. He's been a massively successful coach in college, but college football is not the NFL. When I think of the Bill Belichick coaching tree,.
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"Comfort food and so I just, I'm so happy that these two things have really collided. Joe burrow, this quarterback who I'm really inspired by his work ethic, his moxie, his confidence as attitude. It's a quarterback I love in a city I love. And so maybe what I'm going to say here is Cincinnati, can you forgive me? I was skeptical. I didn't think it was going to work. I really not that Joe burrow wouldn't be great now that Jamar chase wouldn't be great. I assumed things were still the way they were when Carson Palmer was a quarterback there. The ownership structure is different, and also Joe burrows better than Carson Palmer was. He's just elevating his teammates more than Carson Palmer ever did. And I just love seeing what's going on. It's a quarterback of a city I love. It's this great combination. And I'm so happy to have been wrong about Joe burrow. It certainly is really kind of cringey to look back at the stuff I said. But in all of that, I hope it's understood that there's a lot of love for the city. And it's a place I just, oh my gosh, I miss it, man. I really love the city of Cincinnati, and I'm happy that Joe burrow is just making me look monumentally wrong. It's a joy to watch. And I don't know that they're going to win a Super Bowl. I am crossing every finger and every, you know, my toes, everything. I just want them to win so badly. I don't know they will, but I want you to know I am rooting for Cincinnati. Hardcore in the Super Bowl. And they got a shot, so I don't know. I really wanted to look back and kind of, I just think it's fun to kind of clown on myself and look back at all the times I was wrong or the things I said and Joe burrow manage was proven me wrong over and over and over again and I love that. All right, let's shift gears..
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"I don't know how much of an impact that really makes. I would like to see the Bengals doing fantastic. It'd be awesome if they were 8 no to start the year. I just don't think that's a realistic expectation for the Cincinnati Bengals. I was very, very critical of this move. I did not like it. I knew Jamar chase would be a star player, but I did not think he would lead to Cincinnati winning more games. And I was really, really worried about the Bengals offensive line. In fact, I still actually kind of am like going into the Super Bowl. I'm like, just please, Joe burrow, do not die. That's all I'm asking for. Joe burrow gets hit a ton and I certainly did not expect anything like what happened in the Tennessee Titans playoff game where Joe burrow got sacked 9 times and still found a way to win. That doesn't happen. You don't win football games when that happens to you. And I would actually say that Bengals are kind of getting away with one right now. Where in year one, Joe burrow got hurt, destroyed his knee, and it's hard to not blame the offensive line. And the thing I just did not account for is Joey B is just a wizard at surviving in the pocket. He avoids sacks like crazy. There's a play against the Kansas City Chiefs where Chris Jones has him dead to rights, not once, but twice on the same play, and he avoids a he ducks under it, then avoids a sack with like an ankle bite. And he does that all the time. He avoids sacks like crazy. Like you just are like, I didn't, he's not Russell Wilson. He's not as fast, doesn't have a crazy amount of top end speed, but he's just like a little slippery. You can't get a hold on Joe burrow. He's hard to sack. He's also incredible in a messy pocket..
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"They're not changing. Things are not going to change. And Cincinnati, the owner is still Mike Brown. Mike Brown is still the owner of the Cincinnati Bengals and as long as he is, things are not going to change. Carson Palmer never won a playoff game until he left Cincinnati. But Joe burrow, in my opinion Joe bro needs to reject the Bengals and do it hard. He needs to be harsh. She needs to say, I don't want to play for the Cincinnati Bengals. They have bad ownership. I will not play for Mike Brown. You can draft me. I won't play. Joe burrows worked too hard. He's too talented to waste years of his career in Cincinnati. He might have a little bit of success in Cincinnati. Maybe at some point Joe burrow wins a playoff game with the Bengals. And that'd be awesome. Pull an Eli Manning, refuse to go there. That's what I think is best for Joe burrow and his family. Go to a better organization, have a better life. When football games and achieve good things, great things, don't go to Cincinnati and under cheap. Oh my gosh, it's hilarious to listen to it. It really is. I said, don't go to Cincinnati and underachieve. All Joe burrow has done since he got to Cincinnati is overachieve. I said, maybe someday he can win a playoff game, like one playoff game. He went three. He won three this year. And now he's going to a Super Bowl in year two. And really the big thing that happened with the Bengals organization and what really took place is that Mike Brown, the Bengals owner has gotten older and as that has happened, he's given more and more control to his daughter, Katie Blackburn. She's got a dope by stand, by the way. She married a guy named Troy Blackburn, but she is she is Mike Brown's daughter despite not the same last name. Katie Blackburn and duke Tobin are basically running the Bengals organization. And they've done a great job building around Joe burrow, something I was very concerned would not happen in Cincinnati. They brought in, for example, the defensive line. They brought in toy hendrickson, they brought in DJ reader, they traded for BJ hill, a really great, quiet trade with the Giants to get DJ hill. They gave Sam Hubbard a big contract. I was really, really critical of the Bengals for being cheap during the Carson Palmer era. I'm like, look, it didn't work with Andy Dalton. It didn't work with Carson Palmer. They didn't even spend money when Carson Palmer really needed it to win more playoff games and go farther. However, they've actually done a really good job building their.
Mike Gallagher: The NFL Did a Deal With the Devil for Great Playoff Games
"I know Bengals fans are still on a natural high after Joe burrow led the team aided by incredible defensive performance by the Bengals to a huge huge shocking win. The Bengals going to the Super Bowl. Nobody's going to really care 'cause it's the Bengals and the rams. I kind of care because I love the story of the Bengals, so we'll see if they become Super Bowl champs. I think the NFL did a deal with the devil to have all of these just Hollywood epic style games throughout the playoffs. Every one of them have been good. Every last
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"When a corner has great coverage, and the receiver isn't open by most NFL standards, and yet you're throwing it behind a defender's ear into a tight window, turning the receiver around for a touchdown like he does with Jamar chase over and over again. That's when you go from really good to deserving to be in the same conversation as Aaron Rodgers as Patrick Mahomes. And by the way, the thing that is not getting talked about with Jill burrow is that the offensive line still needs work in Cincinnati. There's a lot of pressure on Joe burrow and he is making people miss. He's avoiding sacks. He's stepping up in the pocket, moving around a lot in like a little short tight radius and making defenders miss and throwing the ball downfield and stepping into hits and getting hit as he throws and he's dealing man. Joe burrow to me is the top 5 quarterback and he's in the conversation right now with Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers as a guy who is at the top of the league absolutely in the quarterback at the quarterback position. Joe writes in, let me drink some more water real quick. Joe says, hey Zach, happy new year. Can we talk about Trevor Lawrence? I know he's in a bad situation in Jacksonville. But I've got even seen any signs of greatness from him. I didn't expect them to have a great record at the end of the year. But I did hope to see maybe just one statement type game from him. Gardner mention you had a better rookie season with Jacksonville. Joe, I totally agree. I'm worried. I am worried. Going into the year, I said that it's a disadvantage for Trevor Lawrence that he's never lost in his career in high school and college. He never had a bad year or never losing season that's going to really hurt him because when you're not winning, you have to learn how to handle that emotionally and how to, what do I fix? And unfortunately, I think that he learned a bad thing this year, which is that the story Trevor Lawrence is probably going to tell himself is that, hey, we lost because our head coach urban Meyer was a bad head coach. And it'll be easy to not focus on the things that he needs to do better as a player. And I think that's really unhelpful. I hope he doesn't tell himself that story because to put all the blame on urban Meyer would be massively unhelpful and a big hindrance to him. And it's easy to blame people, but what he needs to do is look inward. There's a lot of little things Trevor Lawrence can improve. And the other.
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"Sports episode 400 and 39 welcome in. I am very excited. Dude, life is good right now. I'm doing really well. My dad and my stepmom are in town visiting and oh my gosh, it is so great. It's the first time I've seen them in 6 months and it's cool to show them around where I live and my neighborhood and take them to the beach and we're really close and I didn't realize how much I was missing them until seeing them and it's just been such a fun week seeing being around them and really having an amazing amazing time. Let's jump in. We'll talk briefly about Monday Night Football. On Monday Night Football, the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Cleveland Browns 26 to 14 I'm not gonna lie as an objective third party here that isn't a browns fan or a steelers fan. It wasn't a very interesting game. I feel bad. It wasn't a horrible game or anything. There's been way worse football games this year, even on Monday Night Football, especially. But the browns are already eliminated from the playoffs going into the game and Pittsburgh led basically the entire time. The first quarter wasn't very offensively interesting and the Pittsburgh got a lead and they led the whole way after that. And really the big headline was that it was Big Ben's final home game in Pittsburgh. And it was awesome. He won, I was really glad to see that. I can't imagine that moment with him losing would have been really sad and awkward and not like a fitting end to what it was. And the whole game felt like a retirement party for Ben Roethlisberger if I'm being honest. And as I look back on Big Ben's career, by far my favorite big bend moment was his touchdown pass to santonio Holmes in the Super Bowl against Arizona, where he did this crazy ball on right on the goal line. It high in outside santonio home stretches out to catch it and just oh man, and if anyone hasn't seen that, I believe John Madden made the call too. So go look up santonio Holmes, Big Ben touched down Super Bowl Arizona, something with those keywords in it on YouTube. You'll find it.
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"I saw a clip of it on TikTok, the other. It actually was YouTube shorts. Told the story about the Chinese farmer and how I'm going to butcher it. The Chinese farmer had his horse run away, and everyone in the village said, oh, that's really bad. And he said, maybe, in the horse came back to the farm with 7 other wild horses. And so I was like, oh, that's really good. You got a bunch of horses now. And the farmer said, maybe. And then the next day, the farmer's son took one of the wild horses out to ride and to break him in. And the sun broke his leg. At ever the village said, oh, that's horrible. Your horse, you know, what are your new horses broke your son's leg? Well, the next day, someone from the military came and said, hey, you know, we're drafting people in the military and his son didn't have to go to the military because his leg was broken. And he actually missed out on a potential opportunity to lose his life. And so the point of that story is that it's exactly what Dan Brazilian said. I'm literally like stealing that entire segment, but he said, look, man, we never really know how things are going to play out in life. And how insane is it that I'm taking a story from Dan Bilzerian? I don't even like the guy. But point is that he is right, though, that you never know what something appears compared to what it actually could be. Good stuff happens in our life every day. And you're not going to know until you see it play out. And maybe Matt carral getting hurt in the sugar bowl is the best thing that ever happened to him. Because he falls through a really good football team in the draft and becomes their franchise quarterback wins a lot of games and has a great career. So you have to be open to the possibility that when something quote bad happens, you can turn it into good. And there is a silver lining. And I think it could be that Matt carrel will fall farther in the draft. But let's be clear, but one thing David, it's totally fine for players to opt out of their bowl games, which I have no respect for and I don't really I have no respect for the bowl games. I totally respect people, you know how much by the way, it takes guts to say I'm not gonna play. Like you're gonna get criticized and all this stuff and it kind of reminds me of, you know, I call up my engagement recently. And I would argue that it takes a lot of guts to call off an engagement and this big obligation and this thing that everyone's excited about your family and people are buying dresses and stuff. And I had to do what was right for me, even if a lot of people didn't understand and kind of bear the weight of that. And the skepticism and criticism I'm going to get for that. And I call it football player doesn't play in their bowl game. It's going to hear it. And they're going to get criticized. But you've got to do what's best for you. Who cares what other people think as long as you're doing what you know is best for yourself and I think it would have been better for mature else future to not play in the bowl game..
"joe burrows" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"It was like a 72 yard touchdown. He makes a he catches like a 5 yard slant or hits or something makes people miss runs for a long touchdown a bunch of yards after the catch. And it really sparks Cincinnati. And in this game, he had 11 catches for 266 yards and three touchdowns. And all year, Jamar chase is elevated his team and made a difference and helped his football team win games. Let's be clear. He was the right pick. I was wrong. I am so glad I was wrong. I remember being like, they should have got penne sewell, idiots. Why would they draft him receiver? Receivers don't help you win games. David proven wrong, so many times. And I love it, man. And I got to acknowledge it. And I truly, I enjoy being wrong, because the Bengals are so much fun to watch. And there's some YouTube comment throughout there. I forget his name, I don't really care. He was like, I can't wait to watch Zack Schumer be disappointed when Kansas City beats the Bengals. No, no, no. No, it was an awesome moment. Cincinnati won. And I really love what job was done elevating the Bengals and beating Kansas City was the culmination of so many good moves made by Cincinnati. It's not just Jamar chase, it's not just drafting Joe burrow. It's bringing in Larry ogan Joby from Cleveland. Trey hendrickson from New Orleans. BJ hill from the Giants. Casey put up 28 points in the first half of this football game and only three points in the second half. That defense stepped up. Great coverage in the second half, getting pressure with their front four. A lot of pressure on Patrick Mahomes. And then look, man, Joey B made throw after throw after throw. He was dealing. That dude looks like a Hall of Fame quarterback already. And it's kind of funny actually, you know, the ravens defensive coordinator like last week said, well, let's not put him on the Hall of Fame just yet. And yeah, it's a year or two, that's a bit ridiculous. Who knows how his career is going to play out. But, man, like, I'm telling you. I am not over hyping Joe bro. In fact, if anything, I am somehow underselling Joe burrow. Joe burrow was 30 for 39 passing against a really good Kansas City defense. It's made Casey's defense is really come alive in the second half of the year. And Joe burrow shredded them 446 yards four touchdowns, zero turnovers, and the guy got hit a ton. He's the most sacked quarterback in the entire NFL. The offensive line, they still need work. I mean, Joe got his nameplate ripped off of the back of his Jersey. He was getting hit so much. He probably ripped him off. I'm sure he ripped it the rest of it off himself. But I remember watching it slowly peel off his Jersey. And I got things like barely hanging on. And in spite of the fact that the ovens online is struggling. It's by the fact that he's having to really, how many times have you watched Joe burrow at all? He's avoiding sacks. He's making people miss. He's turning what should be losses into big throws downfield..
"joe burrows" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"No. We didn't play good. Maybe it's all according to plan their thank you nick. It's working. does he go back to jeopardy at some point during this season since that. They're still an opening there. He sat down with erin andrews and i i. I don't know what this serves like. Why do this interview. I know that fox's carrying the game but you don't move forward with this unless you want this to just stay there where you're going and he was thinking retiring and going to another team and won quite sure and that's where all you have to say. Look i said everything in that press conference and i owe it to this team this city to move on and try to win and not keep looking in my rear view mirror right. You made your decision. You had a great press. Conference mean a wonderful press conference where you actually gave answers but man you got to move on at least for this season at the end of this season. You wanna look back great but you owe it to your teammates and that city look forward. Look ahead because this should be a very good team. More phone calls coming up. Got our poll question. Who's leading base buffalo running away with no another team. I'll save it. Eighty-three percent went on another team. The most disappointing loss disappointing. Wow okay it shouldn't well. It's the way the packers lost. That's probably affecting the outcome here. I'm going to guess one hour and the books two more to go. Dan patrick show one more item. We closed down our one em drive guys. Were getting older. But you still want to perform at a great level a high level and we wanna be our best. Thanks to drive you can. The everyday supplement for driven men who refused to let age beat them clinically. Tested ingredients support healthy testosterone levels while helping maintain lean muscle. And giving you that energy. You need to fight back against aging every single day. Visit him dr. Dan dot com. Try for yourself this month. Only take twenty percent off your first order with the promo code. Dan free shipping sixty day. Money back guarantee nothing to lose aging is inevitable but slowing down. Doesn't have to be em drive. Helps you perform at your best with top level. T support joined the community of driven. Men like me refused to let age slow them down. Visit him dr. dan dot com. You get more energy. Lean muscle and healthy t support. Your body needs take twenty. Percents off your order. Use the promo code. Dan don't let age beach. You visit dr dan. Dot com childhood is wanting variety of different bake suites. In someone telling you know. Adulthood is wanting a variety of different bake sweets. And being able to go right to mickey d's to get every single one you want whenever you want get the new glazed donut in the ninety nine cents and you sized iced coffee with pumpkin spice flavors wait prices dissipation. But they're limited time only iced coffee table to eleven. Am up can't get enough. Football look no further than the gm. Sp podcast Join me k. Albums alongside. Nate burleson peter schrager and kyle grant for daily breakdown of the league's biggest stories between game plan breakdowns and fantasy tips. We've got you covered for all your football. Needs we got recaps re tweets and reaction to all the wild moment you might have missed on and off the field. Listen to the good mornings. Football podcast weekdays on the iheartradio app on apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Strawberry spring based on a short story by stephen cape fear. There was a murder mechanic. Henry have you heard the news just now. The radio campus. Spring jack is back produced audio of media and iheartradio listen to strawberry spring on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast..
"joe burrows" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Radio network hill has thirteen touchdown receptions of fifty yards or more most in the nfl since entering the league in two thousand sixteen. That is your play the day and it's brought to you by dollar shave club. Make sure you upgrade to a dollar shave club. Six played razor for a noticeably smooth shave thanks to their six precision cut stainless steel blades. Find your perfect shave. Dollarshaveclub in stores dollarshaveclub dollarshaveclub dot com. It was a good week for young quarterbacks. The four quarterbacks from the twenty twenty draft who started sunday joe borough to its of low adjusted. Herber and jalen hurts went. Four no including three wins on the road. The top three wideouts from this year's draft jomar chase jalen waddell devante smith all caught touchdown passes and one in their nfl. Debuts some phone calls here best and worst to the weekend let's start with allen atlanta l. Welcome to the program. Best and worst of the weekend. Morning dan morning. That's the weekend. Nfl sunday's are back. Seven straight hours of commercial free football greatness and we get it for eighteen weeks with this year worse for the weekend. Nfl sunday back. And starting though seven hours watching arthur the aardvark anemic offense. Not score eight falcons touchdown. Congratulations good to have you back. Thank you by the way. We're back with another season. This is the last week for the next great podcasts. For you to enter in your podcast idea to myself and the podcast team at iheartradio. All you have to do is go to dan. Patrick dot com click on the link on the homepage and for all the submissions. We will select ten finalists. You get a budget opportunity to produce a pilot episode of your show your podcast. You have until september seventeenth to submit. Go over to dan. Patrick dot com. Follow the link. Submit your idea. Good luck jeff. In detroit joining us. Hi jeff whatever. No one time for chat role best on the weekend of time forty eight yesterday. I ns they tried to come back. But they didn't finish the man. It is what it is now. And i am. Jimmy would say what it is is just that but I'm a football fan. And i am so glad that the nfl is back. Can't matthew stafford and then Jameis winston i. I think i call it that when i did. The saints will probably end up in the championship down this year. So notice mclovin probably will not be coming anywhere near detroit with the that because clearly clearly. You got a lot of work to get. I don't think you're making the plants but jeff You know it was a nice performance with the lions coming back to make it interesting in that game against the forty nine sean. An oregon john welcome to the program best and worst of the weekend dan. We're going worse. I the worst was learfield. Img into the ducks and the buckeyes game late in the fourth quarter here in oregon only happened for a few minutes but the anxiety was pretty hot. That's the weekend was at oregon. Oh line and how well coached. The oregon. Ducks were by mario cristobal. That wasn't just a for oregon. That was a victory for the entire pack. Twelve all right. Thank you thank you sean. And look oregon. Just went out went out. I mean no pressure but you know you went out and you got a great chance to play for a national championship. You beat ohio state at ohio state and we know how stayed is going to be there but now you can save for ohio state. Well if you're going to have a loss you wanna habit early all you wanna do is get up in the rankings. Get up in the conversation and it's really hard. I was up there now after beating iowa steak once you get up there then all of a sudden you can be in the conversation. It's rare when somebody is twentieth fifteenth. And you're trying to move up with these programs that just don't lose and organs got its opportunity. I was got its opportunity. But you know when you get up for a game like that. Now you gotta make sure that you put up consistent performances and do that against ohio state. That was impressive. Really was and ohio. State put up some numbers. Their defense was just subpar sub-standard in surprisingly bad your oregon ducks follow. The ohio state buckeyes with stony brook next week at home. They had these stony brook wolves at home. Okay don't sleep on them at never know yes mclovin. Look at iowa schedule they have the who's who of teams that play at noon. They have maryland minnesota nebraska illinois. The ultimate noon team colorado state. I don't know if they are allowed to. But i don't know what time zone. They're in but they always adjust to be noon eastern illinois. Yeah there's a couple of them that are they. they're all neuters. Thank you dislike the. You're you're going to be playing at twelve o'clock. Yes mclovin fat. A little confusing the ohio state game being the game of the day at noon. Well that's fox. Fox is trying to build up that fox kick off the pre-game show. They want you know. Try to compete with the mothership with game day any. Espn jozy has. It's better game in the evening. Usually on abc. But you know fox's like we gear up for that noon kickoff because we want you watching the pregame show and that's a big game. I mean other than that. Usc losing to stanford bad ex. Texas lost arkansas. I give paulie credit because volley was like man. Keep an eye out on this. Aisle arkansas's my five-star pick in arkansas rolled up texas there but sometimes it happens where you just gear up. You're ready and then the next week. You're just not as ready even though you go through the motions and then your coach says hey come on. let's go. We gotta look florida state. Florida state played notre dame. Toyoto unbelievable finish. And then you're playing jacksonville state and this is hell. That game ended stamp the cooper looking down the field. He's got a man caught it. He's pre filial johnson into the fall. Oh no flags. Pass the final step of the game. Jacksonville state is one. It's embarrassing jacksonville. State credit they made the play florida state. Help them make the play. I mean prevent defense. The only way you can lose is if they score touched so keep everything in front of you and you could see the defensive banks or like that. Looks like it could get caught Looks like You know you get the tackle now and then you're going wait. How about the florida state call. Do we have that. Here's the dekom down. The far sideline ball at the ten yard line to the five yard. Line jacksonville state with bowtie jesse. Everything is brought to you. Guess have taken the lead with this ballgame. There's nothing better than the color analyst stepping on the play by play guy because he is he wants. 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"joe burrows" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Congratulations to fritzy's broncos. There's an win thank you. That's all that's all. get nice with. Yes oh you got the giants. You beat the giants. Congratulations on the road. A teddy bridgewater not an easy place to play. And i don't know about that. They're pretty loud there. you know. it's a whole lot easier when you're playing the giants you mike. Oh boy. that's tough place to win. Yeah when the giants were really good it was a tough place to it. It's interesting that there are many places where you go and you go boy. That's tough place to play in the team's not any good. Although that home stadium advantage for kansas city that to me that played a large role it felt like in just the momentum shift and once they sensed it then you have the botched punt and then you have mahomes. Doing what mahomes does travis. Kelsey was great. Travis i think is going to join us Wednesday think so. Yes all right. Thank you john. What you guys think of the rams new stadium. That's that's gorgeous isn't it. It's very majestic it. There is a lot. Yeah but seton brought this up. He said it's almost like they built it for almost like a tv set. It's hollywood and you're building something that looks great for tv and i thought that that was that that kind of Showed through yes because if it's not really that coliseum like setting like say metlife right. That's more of a traditional looking stadium listening. Everything was like this sweeping beautiful view in your house. There even a football game going on inside there it just. It just really looked great on on screen and the uniforms look great. Matthew stafford you want to have a debut with the new team boy. That's the way to do it. Here's my first pass. And then cooper cobb down the middle down the seam and the bears looked a little discombobulated. And then andy dalton throws the interception tip pass is just in fields going to start week to at home as i said. I wouldn't start him on the road sunday night against the rams but at home against the bengals. Yeah i would give him a shot. But the coaches know the coaches can see how a player progresses does he know the playbook. How is the in practice. How to his teammates respond. There's so much more that goes into it other than hey andy dalton's not our future and we drafted just we've got to put him in there. He might not be ready. And you wanna put somebody in when you believe he's ready because you don't wanna have one of those disasters debuts you you wanna have momentum going in and you know mac jones. Yesterday they didn't expand the playbook. It was pretty much dinkum dunk. There wasn't anything that was truly dramatic but he was very efficient but he played like i thought he would play. I thought that they would utilize the titans Utilize the running backs out of the backfield but feel the dolphins in the red zone. 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"joe burrows" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"You know. We played pretty well. Are you on social media. Yeah i'm back on their twitter guy. But i'm on instagram. It's dangerous joe. It is it really is. That's why i'm not on twitter because you know twitter they can get to every little things you see this kind of your own little world. You don't have to look at all that stuff where you on twitter last year A little bit much but twitter. Yeah twitter's and not not a very positive place. How do they rough you up. What were some of the things that were said. Oh i mean you hear it. All how i mean. Bust we arm terrible to all of the above. You hear it all on twitter instagram. A little more positive. Is that what you're saying. Yeah you know. I think everyone is a positive mindset on there. Yeah if you could change one rule in the nfl that that you had in college is. Is there a rule that you would love to change. That's a good question. I would like for there to be less tv timeouts. Yeah no i feel like every series you running out there and waiting for four minutes before you start to play really feels like I don't know. I feel like you take a long time to to to get out there and call the play. What are you talking about when you're out there waiting for the the game to start or continue. Resume borrowing you know. He's acting head. You know going through his thought process some on what played a call and going through his his thought process. As far as you know what. My job is not playing then. He realized what he wants me to tell some guys in the huddle. It's always what pertains to their jobs. And then also you just kinda have a little fun out there. Talk about whatever you know. You don't want it to get too serious. Just did you wanna talk about the lsu tigers. Yes sure how did you watch the ucla game did yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. That was a tough one But i think they got a great coaching stuff. That'll they'll get that right. Yeah and seem like physicality was lacking lacking a little bit and final coach. Oh that's not going to. Last very long does ohio states loss affect you at all No i don't. I don't i you know i haven't played with you know last year even last year. I had some guys on the team that i played with so i was. I was rooting for him But no it doesn't affect me too much. I still talk to some of the coaches there. So i still have some relationships on wouldn't say it affected me. What's great to talk to you. And i mean you talked. Urban meyer about giving trevor lawrence. Advice was at during the off season. Yeah mean coach my stay in contact You know we're good friends now. You know we we talk. We talk on and you know where every couple of weeks you just checks in now. He's a guy. Good coach play against him week. Four though wait so you're friends with him now. You said yeah. Yeah but you weren't friends with him and he was. My coach was hard on me But now now that you know we've kind of got away from it for milwaukee for a while you know we're we're gonna friends we talk a lot But a lot of different things football life all that good stuff does he make you laugh receive funny until areas in his own way. Yeah but i keep hearing that about nick sabin and bill belichick but i never see it. I don't think they want you to okay. Yeah well they're doing a good job of that joe decide. Hey congrats on the win. Good luck against the bears and maybe justin fields. You'll be getting a little more airtime for the bears with this game. No good player. He was you know you got yesterday us exciting to watch. He's going to have a good future. Begging joe good to talk to you. That's joe borough bengals cornerback. Last time we saw him was in miami at the super bowl came in. He was taller than we thought. Looked a little more. Like the actor. Vince vaughn than we thought and A little slider then what. We thought. A lot of these quarterbacks matt ryan when we saw matt ryan at pebble beach. It's like damn. He's every bit six five six quarterbacks look a whole lot bigger in person well some do because you see him being thrown around like rag dolls. And you're like first time. I met dan marino. I'm like how's the defense thrown you around like that dude you're a big guy phil simms big carson palmer big guy a lot of time these big band and he is big. Yes mclovin tom. Brady you put him in that less. No he's taller than you think. But not big. Josh allen is taller than than he looks and bigger than he looks. But you watch these defensive players and you know they've just throw them around apple. I went back and watched the jober interview from. We're at the super bowl miami. Do you remember the first question we asked him. Because we're talking about how young he looked. You asked him if he shaves. Oh because i have shaved shaved regularly. That's great we were talking about young. Look i remembered the big deal was you know. Did you wanna be drafted by the bengals. We're not going there anymore man. I'm hearing from my friends in cincinnati. What are you trying to do trying to sabotage going. I just want to know if he wants to be drafted. Not that crazy. People are so territorial. And i'm not mike. My job is to say. Hey do you wanna go there ally. Manning did not want to go to the chargers. John elway did not want to go to the colts. It's happened before it's not like i go man he's gonna gonna demand to be traded was just. I wanted to hear if he truly was embracing cincinnati. The bengals wanting to go there. He's an ohio guide. Although people think he grew up in cincinnati grow up up north. I think around ohio university. Yes mclovin there is a lot of positive energy around the bengals. They seem to be like buddies. Aw sounds really ridiculous but everybody was sort of supportive of each other. Yeah it was twenty. One seven and the vikings came back and over time and i go. Don't lose this game now. You want to build off this. Jomar chase joe. Mixon has quietly had a nice career. Very good all purpose back now. I know what happened in college. And that'll stay with him the rest of his life and he might not be able to be a star because of that. But you're more chase. Looks good on the offensive line and i remember that the bengals a lot of people thought. Hey take penny. Soule get an offensive line for joe borough. I'm all for that protecting your quarterback. It helps when you have a wide receiver leg. Jamal chase got joe borough in a game where justin jefferson is playing for the vikings and he was with you and you got jomar chase some nice luxuries that you have at. Lsu well you did have it lsu. yes Dan you're bengals could have good run this first half of the season at chicago at pittsburgh jacksonville. Green bay detroit then a little tougher baltimore but then jets first eight games. Yeah i think they opened his three point underdogs against the bears. Yeah a little surprised by that. Well the bears are at home. I mean you usually if they probably look at that game. It's a tossup of.
"joe burrows" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"And I do think in game adjustments going to be big. Absolutely. Now you mentioned some of the defense, but I mean overall lap. This appears me a very winnable game for the Bangles. Yeah, The first thing I always look at is Who's the opposing team's quarterback? And if it's you know Tom Brady or Russell Wilson, you go. Uh, maybe not so good. But we're talking Kirk cousins here who look it has always been serviceable, but not a guy that's just going to Throw the entire team on his back and win the game, and they'll have Dalvin cook it running back as good player Adam feeling and what Justin Jefferson and wide receivers so there's some weapons there, but not Not an attack. That is that didn't seem that formidable my wrong. I think I think it is winnable football game, and I think which Kirk cousins shows up. Last year Rocky Kirk cousins the first six games in the season to tender receptions, and they went one in five to start the season than the last 10 games of the season. The only true three And they went six and four and he threw 35 touchdown passes, which was a career high forum and he threw for like 4300 jobs. I mean, he had he. He's the kind of guy that drives you crazy, because when you look at numbers It's like, Actually his numbers were like 40 to 65 in terms of yards. Serious numbers. Good numbers, But, man, I don't know He's one of those guys that, uh He just seems to make mistakes. You know, at the worst possible times, and he's in today's football is more of a stationary quarterback. You know, he's not a guy that's going to extend and create. Although he will and Basi v er from time to time, they'll outrun. Defensive end But the guy that my mind is a straw that stirs the drink is the guy you mentioned. Dalvin Cook 1557 yards rushing last year averaged five yards a carry rush for 16 touchdowns. Then Adam Sealand had 14 Red Zone touchdown catches 14. I mean, that's that's unbelievable and every single one of them inside the 20 Yard line and Justin Jefferson rookie from LSU. Maybe catch just 1400 yards broke Randy Mosses records in both of those categories. 14 30 yards or second most by any rookie in the history of the NFL. This dude is a great player, man and So they do They have some. They have some some weapons but in my mind if you let Dalvin cook it off, you're going to have a long day. If you control him and make it one dimensional, like you say. Um Then, then, yeah, Things get a little bit tougher for any quarterback in the National Football League, and I think they'll definitely get tougher for Kirk cousins. He does not run again. Question about now. One of the big story lines of course Lap is Jamaar Chase and his drops frankly, during camp, and it was during OT. A zit was during campus during the preseason games and even last preseason game. The the Bengals tried basically the easiest route There is just like a little you know, underneath screen. Just dump the ball to him. If you were the Bangles, what would you do to help get his confidence back? Obviously, the guy can catch footballs. That's why he's here. But it's a confidence it's a mental issue. How would you do? And how do you think the Bangles are going to try to get him involved and get him to become a player? We all want him to be. The drops have definitely taken on a life of their own. There's no doubt about it nightly. So I mean He's not playing that, but he staffs and when you botch up the stature plan that becomes a glaring issue. You know you're not You're not stand in the football game to okay, get over that one and go make three catches. You know, it's like you had your opportunity and you blew it. And and yeah, that that bubble screen they tried. You know, I think Joe Burrows only throw in the preseason, wanted to go to his teammate. Safe roll. Get those confidence up, You know, get the receivers confidence up. And what did he do? He looked and peaked and tried to make his first move for he caught the football. And then the first thing you do is look the ball into your hands, Man. It's ABC catches then then look and locate and then make you move. I mean, here. You can't. You can't get out of the order there and and I think that's what he's trying to do. And I think on that particular, so I think he was trying to do too much like your job. All the crowds going crazy. There's my guy. We want a national champion. I'm going to go make a plan. I'm going to bust this guy man before he catches the football, you know he's trying to do too much. So I think I think it's just get back to the basics. The fundamentals and he's been catching literally thousands of tennis ball football. I mean, it's just like repetition reads comfort level, you know, and I think I think during the course of the game when you know you're going to be, you know you're going to be playing the entire football game. You certainly can't let one bad play. Turn into three or five. You know you're going to get over it. Move on, but the dude he's got. He's got some skills. Now he's got a great skill set. But the first thing you have to do is secure the pig catch the rock of those still sets. I don't mean the hill of beans. Alright, lap with that we'll let you go. But before we we do. Any predictions from you as far as total victory. SCO? Yeah, I'm a I'm a 7 to 9 guy. You know, I think I think that I'd like to see him win eight or nine. I'd like to see him. Get out of that double digit lost, uh, scenario that they're talking about. But, man, it's It's not going to be easy. I mean, there's going to be this could be quite a few games where You know, pick them situations. A few of them are going to have to go their way. And like I said, before, you can be a pretty good football team, which I think they're going to be your competitive football team. And in this division you can go to and foreign heartbeat and that's a that's a tough dynamic to crawl your way out of All right, buddy. Thanks so much. You've got it, guys. All right, Thanks a lot, Dave lap and we'll be talking to him many, many more times during the season. The English Mark Chase's It'll be interesting to see how Joe Burrow Joe Burrow. Deals with that, because in a way, the only way to get out of the funk that chases in is for Brody throwing the ball. And if he jobs on throw him another one. If he drops, it threw me just keep going to him until it Kind of comes back, But then you're in the situation of what if it's a critical moment that game This borough sake. This is the guy I hadn't cunning ball. Do I do I go to him, but also knowing that if you do throw it to him in a critical situation, tough catch and he comes down with that he snaps out of that funk. Ease in. Maybe forget is that let me ask you Is that something you can coach out of a kid or his eyes? Does he have to just Find magically find it on his own. I don't think anything, especially at this level, anything a coach can do, right? He knows how to catch the ball. And he knows that you've got to secure the ball before you turn on the field. I mean, I tell my seven year old son that he should know that by now, right? I mean, Mark A should know that It's all clearly between his own two years. That's the only person that's going to get him out of. There is no drill to do. There's no funk. There's no anything like that. It's got to be him. That gives him out. Checking out with traffic now, Rob what is going on? Start calling him Braylon Edwards. He'll come around. That's not how you do it. Just a thought. 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Adam Silver Says Play-in Tournament Expected to Stay
"What are your thoughts on the NBA player playing tournament to keep it or scrap it? Keep it. I loved it. Made the last 10 12 games of the season. You know so many more teams. So many more fan bases were emotionally invested, You know, from 6789 10 11 12 seeds, so I loved it, And I know some of the players didn't Sorry to hear about it. If you don't like it come to, you know, go find another line of work because it was outstanding for the game. And the game is bigger than any individual. The best part about that to me about keeping it is that anybody think about tanking Making something part of the progress process. You can't do that because Everybody wants to compete more than ever before. Players like Look, we know you got to make organization decisions, but we have a chance to get in the playoffs, get playoff money and understand the playoff experience, then that's going to work for us, Adam Silver says is here to stay. It should stay. I don't care Anybody else has to say about it. This was a boon to the NBA. It was not a detriment when it comes to the end of the regular season. Either or Better quarterback to build around Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert.
"joe burrows" Discussed on Mo Egger
"The reds have not released a lineup. They have not made it official. But joey votto was telling the reporters who are now allowed on the field that had the the expects to play tonight that he's hoping to play tonight and he's there he's not gonna get on a bus and go with. The bats aren't even louisville. So i assume he means he's going to play baseball tonight. A great american ballpark and rejoined the reds. Who have won. Four straight are playing. A brewers team that is red hot will spend a few minutes on on that when we come back on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sport station. You're listening to paul dana junior and mo egger in studio talking all things bengals and general. Nfl topics on espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. It's ten away from four. This is espn fifteen thirty. Allegra paul dana junior here for another segment gotten into the the bengals. We've almost fifty minutes when there's nothing going on with that team so that's pretty damn good. Yeah our talented yeah. Meanwhile you know the reds have won four straight games and and a week this time it was a cell. Everybody off rebuild 2.0. Let's move on the team. Stinks fire david bell and now it's just the cardinals and now this team is going to charge to the national league central division champ off your farm system to get more peace. Let's go go get some pieces. Time to get bob castellini to to spend some money and you know what i'm here for it because a week ago it it really felt like god. They're not gonna get us to training camp and now there seems to be a genuine sense that well this could be a fun and interesting summer. Gb you know what did sunday not sum up this team like you know what they have had some serious resolve and bad bullpen. And it was just like fun to watch. I mean the emotional roller coaster of that game and just the ending. You just don't think it just feels like everything about it. Says it's going to go the other way and from the winker home run to the way that sims pulled himself out of the ninth inning was just fun and surprising and i go back to this a lot because so often with baseball teams. You see them not do this is i always go back to the two thousand ten season when they just were finding ways in early first half of that season to win games they shouldn't have and rally the type of character traits that you see out of teams that play in the playoffs all the time. Like dodgers always some comeback. And there's always there never out of it really type thing a lot of baseball teams and a lot of those that have played around here by the way have not had that they just they fold. They've follow every game. It looks like they should lose. They do there's never that surprising and they still found a way to pull that out despite some things going wrong and it creates that's what creates seasons that go expectations and man. That's what sunday was in. this team. has that element. They just don't have enough to get them to be easily. And and part of that is is health or whatever but like i love that about this team. They makes them very fun. it makes them likeable. It makes them exciting and you can watch winker and castanos hit and be excited by that to sit back and enjoy the show. I watched sunday. And i thought man. That's pretty much this year in a nutshell right now. That's there's a lot of hope there but there's you know there's a it makes for a a coaster every night..
"joe burrows" Discussed on Mo Egger
"Kind of unspectacular but if they would have had four or five games added into their it would have been able first of all. He probably would have beaten. Justin herbert for rookie of the year. And would have been right there along with herbert. Who everybody thinks is going to be the next great thing to put in the national football league. Not that he's not. But i just i just think there's a lot there's it creates so much such a wide spectrum of results of what could happen early this year because we don't know what we were about to see. Yeah no i again. I just for for the point of illustration with carson died is did this on the fly. Carson didn't know forward. He played fourteen games. The seven five touchdowns ten picks he was sacked nineteen times. Completion percentage sixty two six. There's obviously other metrics you could use over those final seventeen games. Thirteen to eight touchdown interception. He was only sacked. Six times for the protection got better. He completed almost sixty nine percent of his passes. He weaved last second magic on the road at baltimore. He nearly beats tom. Brady the defending champion patriots on the road. The game before he got hurt. You saw him make that second half leap. And we didn't get a chance to see that from joe burrow and that to me is i would i would i would. I would have loved to have talked about this season. And who knows. Maybe they win more games and they don't get to march as in the whole offseasons different but from his point from his perspective individual perspective. It would have been so much more fun to talk about what he might be able to do. What you could still do Having the benefit of something to look at it over the final half of the season than him wearing a boot yeah crushing. There's no doubt it but you know that's when we talk about the wide spectrum to me. It's the bottom part of it that you get nervous about because you know if what do you say when when when did you start to get nervous about it. You know what i mean. When does when does he have if you have a second season in. It's again okay. Are you now concerned that it's not going to happen when when there's just you know you obviously you're gonna have plenty of time. They're not gonna any a limit on the amount of opportunities. Joe burrow gets to prove himself here. But it's like you know there is honor to it. It doesn't excite to show itself very quickly this year. He doesn't need to kind of be a guy right away like that's because that's what his career arc is supposed to be. You don't wanna fall behind that and use the injury thing as an excuse. And i'm not saying that what happened but i do think for that reason. There's a lot of intrigue in the long-term vision of his career right now. Yes and learning exactly who he is. And that's kind of to me one of the most important parts of that that there isn't urgency to it. So that comes out tomorrow at the historical year to leap now..
Jaycee Horn's Rise to the NFL
"We'll do some people thought that the panthers maybe should have taken a quarterback specifically justin fields with number eight pick. What is matt rule said about his decision to go with jesse horn. What does he like about this guy. One thing he did say as like jaycee lived this like he knows what it takes to be successful in the nfl. Because he saw his dad he lived at his dad was. Nfl player. great nfl player. he's grown up with it. His whole life play at the highest level. He's got thirty three inch charms. He's six one. Whatever he is ran for three jumped forty two inches. I mean he's a. He's a rare physical specimen who also has the pedigree that's hard to find. He loves jc horn. He loves the physical nature cockiness and the size the speed to match up with all the big receivers in this division but it also tells us something about what the panthers feel about. Sam darnold over justin fields. Right i mean darnold is a guy when they traded for him. They talked a lot about this like he could almost be in this draft from an age standpoint. He's only twenty. Three darnold turns twenty four june. He's younger than joe burrow. Who of course was in last year's draft but it's a risk and if just enfield's goes on to be an all pro guy and chicago and the bears answer quarterback. History will not look upon this panthers decision favorably again. Nothing to do j. c. more about darnold versus justin fields.
Free Agency 2021: Biggest Winners and Losers From Day One
"Who's the biggest winner from day. One the biggest winner from day one already told you it was. It was a my intro. You're listening great question. Jonnu smith out. It's cam newton. Well that depends kenyans a starter for sixteen games. That's right that's true. It's yeah okay. Potentially find jonah smith. Donald smith big contract with the patriots They invest heavily in him. You like this for him i do. I think you know Obviously the quarterback is the concern. But this is the scenario especially with the move that they made that we look for in fantasy as tight end could be the leader of the pack in terms of targets and opportunities and so look cam was not good in twenty twenty. If cam does start sixteen games in two thousand twenty. One greg olsen. During a five year stretch was pretty awesome of the top tier tight ends of the guys that we did. We talk about what he was in the next group you know. And so from twenty two thousand twenty sixteen. Greg olsen averaged a hundred eighteen targets a season seventy seven catches Decide one thousand yards and five times. Johnny could do that. One season estimate put them right around a top five tight end. Greg olsen was great and not only was he great but we also saw from cam newton in that stretch that he could give you greg olsen. Who could finish as a top eight tight in five straight seasons and give you a number to wide receiver in four of those five seasons three or four of those five seasons whether it was. Steve smith or kelvin. Benjamin and even ted ginn one year. So that's interesting. I'll afforded talking about that on the show tomorrow on the tuesday morning show and then of course we'll have a whole bunch of more news items to react to. Hopefully we'll get some kenny golladay news at some point on tuesday or maybe it'll happen later on monday night as record this at about nine fifteen eastern. Who's the biggest loser from day. One the biggest loser from day one on asking these questions before. I told you that we were starting with these egypt's before the show The biggest guys they ryan tannehill johnny smith and Us down smith and corey davis They're going to have to struggle to replace those guys Davis probably more. So the jonah just from the standpoint of what he was last year with his production number two receiver sixty five catches nine hundred plus yards and five touchdowns. So we'll see what they do in in in that in that regard but i think Tannehill you know. I had him as the number eleven quarterback. I dropped in the thirteen after today. Just because i think it was close between in my mind. Joe burrow and tom brady put them behind both those guys. Okay how 'bout jameis winston ryan tannehill right now. It's soom jameis winston as the starter. I still go. i think it'd be messy. You know. I can't situation we're taking those not blaming So i was hoping james would go someplace else and tastes hill. Would still be the guy with maybe a rookie or somebody. Young that they could groom continued. Just gonna to get you know too much of the mill package of james as the starter and if as milton starter. Davis is gonna play very much so it just feels like it be messy situation oil. Who do you like better. Corey davis with the jets nelson agholor with the patriots. I think adler is going to be bad. I don't trust the situation. You know i mean he. He had so many big. Plays for the raiders last year and he was so good for derek carr but he did that on eighty two targets. I don't think he gets eighty two targets with the patriots. He's going to do the same thing. So with what cam does running the ball with what jonah smith brings to the table with. What the rest of the receiving corps will look like if julian edelman on the team if he's healthy Nagla is going to be A guy that's not on many fantasy rosters middle of the season whereas corey davis could be the best receiver for the jets. I don't know if that's going to be the case. But i would take davis by far over niagara.
Dallas Cowboys Reach Multi-Year Deal With Star Quarterback Dak Prescott
"Salary cabin number for two thousand and twenty one is going to be twenty two point two million dollars all right now. Head dak prescott. In franchise tag again this will happen in a procedural sense but had to cow tried to go at this with dak prescott on the franchise tag for the two thousand and twenty one season. We've talked about this a number of times. That value would have been thirty. Seven point seven million dollars so the fact that the cow is now have him onto the books. We're talking about the value that is on the books in the books. However you want to look at the books whether they're e books or physical books whatever the case may be that value is now twenty two point two million dollars now. I know that we have all said some things about the dallas cowboys but they are not complete dummies. They surely budgeted for the franchise tag value. Because let's be honest. They came about twenty four hours. We think you know. Close to having the actually placed the franchise tag and maybe carried out with that prescott. So the cowboys have room for the franchise tag at the very least so you look at that quake matt that adam schefter was kind enough to do for you. That is fifteen point. Five million dollars that the dallas cowboys suddenly have because they've got this long term deal with that prescott. This is something that we've been saying for two years now. If you do this you can. You can kick this down the road. You can prorate it you can extended you can whatever term you want to put on it. You can spread the impact of the deal out of the signing bonus of the overall guaranteed money out over the lives of the contract so it doesn't hit you all at once. That's the one killer about the franchise tag is that it is fully and completely guaranteed in franchise tag is a one year deal so the value of it last year and dak prescott was on the tag for thirty one point. Four million dollars. The two thousand twenty dallas cowboys had to absorb that value all at once and they would have had to have done it again. Here in two thousand and twenty one but because they have adjusted that they now have fifteen and a half million dollars that they were seemingly budgeting for dak prescott that now they can apply to different areas. Maybe it is a safety. Maybe it's a defensive end. Maybe it's a defensive tackle. Maybe it's you know an offensive tackle. But they want swing tackled death whatever the case may be. We know that the cowboys obviously hold the tenth overall. Pick in the draft. They could go a number of different directions there. They wanna cornerback kayla farther patrick's retain do wanna take one of the tackles and rashawn slater as all this is. This is setting up and this is an important thing. I want you to hear me here and watch me here. You cannot waste this money. If dallas cowboys the whole point and getting this done with thac prescott besides obviously establishing having the best player on your team for the foreseeable future the point in doing this is to alleviate the salary cap space now. And i don't like the term when now if you watch us often you know that but you look state of the nfc east. It is by sudha. I mean the philadelphia. Eagles are a disaster. The new york giants doping daniel jones is legitimate. The washington football team has a great team but is void of the most important position of the game and a quarterback. Maybe they'd get somebody this cycle as we all expect quarterbacks to change teams at a higher rate than usual but the case in point is at the dallas cowboys are now. We're going to see this all day on tuesday by the way and we'll talk about it of course but they're going to be overwhelming favorites to win the nfc streit and you think about the conference that they plan is really a contender in the nfc. And i mean that with all due respect to the reigning champion tampa bay buccaneers. But you've got the bucks you've got the green bay packers and then who scares you. May maybe the rams you believe in matthew stafford but the point is thinking about the afc. I mean the. Afc has the bills and the ravens and the chiefs and the titans and the steelers and the browns. I mean you could go. A number of different ways. Did the colts have carson. Wentz ends up getting his act together and so the cowboys play in the weakest division in the weaker conference and so now they have this opportunity to really kind of take their future in the here and now they have fifteen and a half million dollars that they weren't necessarily planning on having use it and if they don't use it it is all for not so i mean we are all imploring the dallas cowboys to ultimately use this salary cap space. This is a very very very luxurious gift. That they now have been afforded that they didn't previously have so shattered of course to the dallas cowboys. Let's see here let's move. I'm i wanna talk of course about the bonus the dak prescott because well. It's stupid large. I mean it's amazing. Dak prescott has now the largest signing bonus in the nfl. You look at joe flacco. Once upon a time. Got forty million. Dollars matt ryan forty six and a half. Remember if you're on the fence about this value. We've talked about this before as well. Matt ryan became the first quarterback in nfl history to average over. He had thirty but to average at least thirty million dollars per year with his new contract that he signed with the atlanta falcons in two thousand and eighteen. That was three years ago. Dak prescott signed a four six year. Deal whatever you wanna call it. That was three years ago. They matt ryan signed that he was the first quarterback to hit the thirty million dollars a year. Mark prescott just hit forty but the reality and we've been saying this forever is that there are so many deals coming around the bend. Josh allens gotta get paid. Lamar jackson's gotta get paid. Baker mayfield's got to get paid extra calories. He's going to get paid the year after that. It's going to be time for joe burrow to finally get paid and when all of those players get paid this forty million dollars a year. Mark the dak prescott got this one hundred twenty six million dollar. Total guaranteed is sixty six million dollar signing bonus all these things that are currently the top of the nfl. The most in nfl history. That's the verbiage in determining that you're hearing associated with this and it's all literally true but it's all going to get pushed down because all of these players on this list. Joe flacco matt ryan matthew stafford at fifty million signing bonus. Aaron rodgers fifty. Seven and a half russell wilson not going to be a dallas cowboy now by the way sixty five million dollars. Dak prescott topped that all of these quarterbacks in all likelihood we'll top that that's the reality of the nfl things are always moving in one direction. It is up
"joe burrows" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"We'll get you a little bit deeper into the weekend. Congrats. You made it This far. You and me till nine sterling from nine to midnight, A fast paced Informative first hour Tonight we get knee deep into the Joe Burrows situation. The Zach Taylor situation based on Joe's comments yesterday, the headline Note of the Night was the news out of Clifton and out of South Bend. Where Notre Dame has announced Marcus Freeman as their new defensive coordinator. You sees a defensive coordinator since January of 2017, leaving to take over as defensive coordinator of the Fighting Irish under Brian Kelly. Marcus Freeman is 34 years old, considered one of the if not the top defensive coordinator in the country, a fantastic recruiter. And he will be on the sidelines. October 20 October 2nd of this coming football season opposite Luke. Fickle in the bear cats. When you see goes to South Bend to play the Irish October 2nd. This upcoming season. Best of luck to Marcus Freeman. Very cool for him. But ah, a bummer for the bear cats losing the architect off. One of the best defense is in the country are Bengals talk tonight? Evolves around Zac Taylor in the announcement by Mike Brown on Monday, and I said, You know, I'm I'm curious as the week has played out. How you're aware your emotions have settled with the decision to bring Zach back six wins in two years, tying David Shula for the fewest wins in a in a two year span in the history of the franchise, And yet, Zach is back. And I ask you at the same time. How much of Joe Burrows comments yesterday might be influencing your decision now Joe Burrow, telling Colin Cowherd when asked about his relationship with Zach Taylor said. Zach Taylor is gonna be a great coach for a long time. Zac's Joe Cities happy in the situation and that Zack is the leader. Of this turnaround for the Bengals. I asked that on Twitter earlier today, and it is running almost 50 50. Would have lost a bet on that..
Ohio State shocks Clemson & Bama dominates Notre Dame
"And we're taping this about an hour after a pretty stunning performance by ohio state crushing clemson in the semi final game and so we both had two games. There were both blowouts but the second one didn't go the way anybody thought rights to yeah to blow outs. One felt like the game. You expected alabama notre dame. The other one. I never in a million years that i think it would play out that way. And maybe that's my bad. Maybe i should have more faith in the buckeyes though having only seen them six times having only seen them play A couple big games. Nobody could have seen that coming. Nobody could have six touchdowns from dustin fields in snaps dominant performance. I think the thing i most underestimated was just how much fuel they were playing with from the For at the very least from last year's game that they've been holding onto this for twelve months Davos ballot played a role. Who's to say but clearly it was one of those situations where a team just comes out on fire. I hesitate to go down this road With you. But i'm gonna go there. Look you know what justin field pretty fantastic for the first three games of the season against lesser competition. And then he had that three. Pick game against indiana. Who's a good team was probably the best team. They played all season and then they played in the big ten championship game. They played a really good defense at northwestern and he looked like he lost confidence. I i don't know that but he just there was no chris. Alaba ver- and trae sermon ran the ball. Like he'd never run before and looked great. And but the passing game was left a lot to be desired to the point where A lotta people were saying. Hey wilson's now the the number two pick quarterback guy in the draft behind trevor lawrence. Now you fast forward. After this. And i'm talking to different people in football circles. Who our coaches. And they're like i would just discussions going to be really interesting now. What the jaguars may have between trevor lawrence and just field so just like justin feels was phenomenal tonight especially after taking a big shot. In the ribs from james galaxy that ended up being targeting and scou- scott ejected from another playoff game. Just like he did last year against shoe. But i mean these were some deep shots that he was throwing down field. I just thought well how they look terrific on really on both sides of the ball. I think they looked better than they had on. Defense a- this year given the competition but the one eighty on justin field from where he was where people felt about him after the northwestern game. I mean am. I understanding that am i stating that. I mean you. See the same thing i'm seeing. A lot of people were panicking about him. After the northwestern game in will i would say with the three interceptions against indiana and then the way he looked against northwestern. But how much do you think is with a higher state for you know. Not only they not played as many games so they haven't had As much time to figure their team out like trae sermon wasn't even factor until the last game and now he's he's had two huge games back to back. But then got chris alavi back. He missed the title game I mean they've had dating back and keep track of which week it was when they had their covert outbreak but and they had to cancel a game. But i mean they've had guys obviously going in and out of The twenty one day quarantine. That is now what seventeen days Like the day was out at one point like they may just be a case of. They finally got their whole team together at once. And they actually didn't those there were without three starters You know harry. Miller is one of their better offense of lineman. There were without a couple of defensive. Lineman they were allowed master teague forgotten man. Because that's not fair to him. But the way trae sermon trish. All of a sudden turned into the same same version that we saw ezekiel. Oh here by. The ezekiel elliott. Who was not even like in all conference honorable mention or second team all conference to the big ten year. They win the title because he just went wild in the three postseason games. And and now we're seeing trae sermon. Do that transform. It looks like they got. Adrian peterson to transfer from oklahoma compared to like elevated his game to ridiculous proportions. The i will say this. I feel like of the two of us. And i'm not trying to pop on the back here I feel like of the two of us. I was a little more of a believer in having a little more believer in justin feels. Maybe than you were at least as a passer. And i think some of that honestly stems from hearing all the elite eleven guys. And seeing him there where they raved about him in ways to a degree that they said. He's probably the most talented player they've had come through their Or quarterback and he looked like that god and i mean. This was the had some great performances. Obviously the numbers. You put up last year and at times this year. But i mean on that stage. The one thing that jumped out at me and you are both at the national title game in that stadium. A year ago was when it was head to head because trevor lawrence look fantastic when he shredded alabama as a true freshman. And that's when the hype. I would say that's when all of a sudden everybody fell in love with trevor lawrence and he is gonna be the first pick in the draft and a couple of years from now and he's done nothing to undermine that he's been terrific off the field. He's been terrific on the field. But joe burrow really was like outshine them last year in that head to head and certainly You know with justin feels it today just kind of was it was an amazing
Louisiana State University parts ways with Bo Pelini after one season as Tigers overhaul defensive coaching staff
"There are multiple reports out there right now. That bo pollini is gone from. Lsu that Experiment did not work very well. So several media outlets reporting this hour. That bo pollini is not coming back on twenty one. That was certainly the most controversial decision that it owes. You're on made let's Welcome in stewart. Mandel to the program. Stuart thank you very much Before we even get to the ball situation. I'd like to get your thoughts on that Well paul i gue-. I guess i would say that. That's something that we've all expected. Since about the second game of the season it just a bad higher and you know it's interesting that a year ago Does ron was getting all the praise in the world for an inspired Higher joe brady the passing game coordinator. Who kinda helps And it was instrumental in joe burrow's rise and that national championship. And then you had some staff changes to make this after this past season and we hire both lean. He's a big name and he's had success before and i get that but it just seemed like it was just such a terrible fit. He tried to revamp their scheme entirely. And this was a program. That had success under dave randall. On defense it wasn't broken. Tried to completely revamp the scheme regardless of the personnel. They lost so many guys to the draft last year and then and then even more before the season. And i just wasn't a good fit and just just a historically bad defensively shoot this year.
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey
"It's important to provide clarity and that altered my thinking so that i can help. Young people understand where we're heading football players volleyball soccer players. Were asking the same question. Cross country student athletes. Those were really important and when our football player said is going to be meaningful in paul you have to go back to the uncertainty of july and try to figure out. Well how do you answer that question. I i hope it meant something when i presented the trophy to vanderbilt soccer team. I said thank you to them and they said thank you back you know. We provide an opportunity. Next thing you know. Sarah fuller becomes story and her jersey and helmet from really unique circumstances in the college football hall of fame right down the street. That doesn't happen if we don't try. I said in september last year was was. Lsu's time and joe burrow's time not knowing who's time it might be this year but it's not as if time passes and you get it again and that's why i thought it was important was because it's about them not about tickets and tv and money and there's plenty of rhetoric about that and you know what we sell. Tickets put things on tv. But i was asked to try to provide an opportunity. And i asked my staff to work to provide that opportunity. I worked with our presidents and chancellors to provide the opportunity We're still working on that or athletic. Directors are coaches and it has been difficult but it is a reward in itself and we want everybody to be healthy. we never waver from that reality. We disrupted games where we still tried to fulfill what i was asked during the summertime and I take that is a great sense of accomplishment For all of us. And i hope those who participated feel that way as
Zconomy: How Gen Z Will Change the Future of Business with Jason Dorsey
"Jason. Save up to fire nation and share. Something interesting about yourself that most people don't know sure what's up. Fire nation thrilled to be here with you. Huge fan fire nation. Everything about something that most people don't know about me is. I wrote my first book when i was eighteen years old and it was so successful. I ended up sleeping on the floor of a garage apartment with five thousand books that i had printed thinking somebody was going to buy them instead. They were furniture. So a bed of books means you're not selling as many books as you want to fire nation but guess what jason's grown he's matured and right. Now he's rocking z. Konami which is all about generation z. And how gen z is going to change the future of business. So i kind of want to start a few steps back jason. Because i'm just curious like how does one get into studying generations wide. Did that interest you. And why did you get into it. Yeah share well that. I book that i wrote when i was eighteen at ended up not selling it first and then becoming a real big bestseller and i started speaking all around the world and i ended up on sixty minutes and i was on. That show is all about millennials. And i'd written a bunch of books and started a company and everything was going great but after that show i started speaking all these corporate executives who are now our primary clients but i was speaking all these exact and he would say such terrible things about millennials and i am a millennial pretty fended lazier titled your pants or fall off. You live with your mom and all this stuff. And i'm like well. No actually. I have my own house in our own office building in my parents worked for me and my pants are on very snugly. Thank you very much. And so so after that i remembered Clear as day. I was in this boardroom. Big public company and the ceo had said Some things about millennial employees. That i just i didn't fully believe and i'd spoken about half a million millennials at that time and so i asked him because i didn't know any better. Now i serve on lots of corporate boards. You know one of the couples on sold for eleven billion dollars. I live in this world now. But back then i didn't i didn't i didn't know and it was really a set up for success so i asked him i said is there any way i can see your data about millennials because you say the turnovers hiring. They're not as engaged and on and on i. I love to understand better. So i can conceptualize it and maybe help also for so. There are a lecture or whatever so they sent the data to me. And the data didn't match with the ceo had just said in the boardroom which basically never happened. Ceo's don't go off the cuff in front of their boards prickly a private publicly-held company like that. So i asked my wife who has a phd. I said denise you know this is. The strangest thing was just in this room with this pretty famous. Ceo they said all these things with great conviction then. I looked at the data and the data doesn't match what they just said. I said what do you think we should do. And she looked at me and she says we start a research for. She's up because if they don't even know their own data if we can help them to understand their data make better decisions and we can really great copy and help lots of peoplesoft. Lots of challenges and so. That's how we got into this thirteen years ago. We founded the center for generational kinetics. We lead research all around the world for many of the biggest brands in the world. And all about separating generational myth from truth through data so leaders can make great decisions whether you're a startup or venture capital or your bootstrapping yet or you're in a big public company getting accurate data and being able to make decisions based on that increases the likelihood of success de risk strategies. That you're looking at drives innovation and so forth and we found that generations in particular or one area where there was just so much myth and so much misinformation and if we gave people great information that it could take action and that was incredibly exciting. We've had seven hundred clients since then which is pretty wild and done studies all around the world and just love it absolutely it now. Your ceo is just flat out wrong when it came to millennials and you had the data to back it up. Did you ever go back to him. And just be like joe burrow. Check us out. you're wrong in also my pants. They're pretty snug. Check them out. I know that was a quiet. But i really do credit him and i if it wasn't such a negative story i would say what company is because it's really big famous company but But no but. I do believe that he something that we saw frequently. Which is the idea that generations older generations. Think of millennials through the lens of their kids or their grandkids and so that that becomes a proxy for the whole generation. And in fact when we wrote the economy book new book. What we found is the same thing was happening again and there was all this misinformation and it just wasn't true and that's why we spent less two years right in the book is because we've got to clear this up because when people have the wrong impression about an entire generation it leads to so many problems for everybody. Everybody loses so no. I never never corrected him on it. But i do give him credit for sparking the idea. I'm glad that you do give them credit for sparking that idea because sometimes fire nation. Is those things you just like you know. I'm not just quite sure about that. Let me look into it. They can really uncover some great opportunities in one thing. That i think is a huge problem in this world in general and especially when you're talking about generations is just regurgitation. You'll hear one person on one talk. Show say one thing. And then you'll regurgitate it. And then somebody else regurgitates regurgitation and like seven layers down. You're like how'd you hear that. They're like oh. I don't really know like somebody just mentioned it and like now you're speaking it like it's the truth and it's just regurgitation of what you know is something that has no data to back it up. So what most people get wrong jason when it comes to generations break that down for us shared. There's a few things that jump out. The first is this belief. Generations are a box or stereotype and that is absolutely not true. We're generational researchers. This is what we do more than sixty five generational studies and what we see is generations are not a box but what they really are powerful clues and as long as we used them as clues and only clues to dry faster connection trust and influence in create all kinds of positive outcomes. We don't wanna put people in boxes. We wanna use this as clues. So we can figure out how to better lead market sell collaborate innovate and so forth. And when you sort of at that level people seem to really embrace it because it just gives them another lens to better connect. So i think the first is people think. Generations are boxes or stereotypes. And they're not in fact. Our clues are driven by math. We look for what's called predictability by scenario so that's the first thing that people i think it wrong. The second is this idea that generations are the same around the world. Now one of the things that we've uncovered repeatedly in our work. We publish all this on our website. Is that generations vary by geography so for example in the us will see differences between urban and rural within the same generation. And that i work a lot outside the us and we'll see differences. Has we travel around the world and that's important because if you're a global company or frankly a global brand fire nation is you want to make sure that you really representing each of the different geographies. And what makes them different now. One cool thing that we've uncovered and we talk a lot about this bunches. Economy is the most consistent generation the world. now that doesn't mean exactly the same but the most similar generation the world is now gen z. Gnc's about twenty three twenty four years old. The oldest and the reason the most similar is because of cheap mobile technology so if you live in different countries around the world you might even get your phone for free as long as you use it for payment. Think about it started using a text. Payer sort of like a mobile credit card in different parts of the world and because we've driven the cost of a mobile down solo basically two zero in many places now. All the sudden young people around the world are having access to entertainment news information dating banking on and on and on and as a result of that. We're seeing a lot more similarities. As i travel all around the world the younger you get but interestingly the older you get even to gen xer baby boomers from a different planet as you travel around the world. So that's something people get wrong. And then the last thing that i think people get wrong. And is they have to deal with a bunch. Is people confuse life. Stage or age with generation. So for example jen's is now twenty four but when we do studies and ask people how do you think the average millennial is they'll say twenty five as if we didn't keep getting older you never talking about millennials for fifteen years. Say there they're now forty. I think that's a board it because you stay in the saying generation but you pass through different life stages and frequently people confuse the two and it's very important to understand the difference because if you're trying to market or employer build a business that targets different groups generations gives you all these clues but we got to distinguish between the generation which travels up right at ages up baby boomers for teenagers versus life. Stage for example high school or college which are still pretty similar ages as they have been for the last four years and so knowing. The difference helps you to understand that. Yes really interesting. How people always confuse age with generations. And how that all goes. I mean you know. I was just talking to a friend the other day literally. He's in his late thirties. I'm in my late thirties. And he's just going off and riffing about jenner. How millennials or just entitled and all this stuff and it looks like you know where millennials. He's like oh no. I'm definitely not a millennial mike. Well we're we're like the oldest millennials millennials. And he's like well. I need to look at that. And so it was funny. He came back. We know there's actually a lot of great things about millennials and he's now like listing off all the good things because he now is identifying himself as a millennial so it's really interesting fire nation and yes. We do get older. That is what happens to all generations and all human beings foreshore. And we're gonna die something. I'm pretty excited about as soon as we get back from our break which is about how generational work is actually going to solve challenges for both entrepreneurs that's you fire nation and companies as well as soon as we get back think is the best platform to create market and sell your own online courses in. We speak from personal experience. 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It's an extremely passionate about and what we're seeing much of the opportunity being created today has a generational trend or thesis. It's the adoption of new technology new solutions or bringing a different way to look at old problems and when that happens that's where both change and frustration and challenge and frankly companies go out of business but it's also wear new opportunities are created so i'm speaking with entrepreneurs and working with entrepreneurs were trying to look at what are millennials and particularly gen z. Doing right now that you might want to be able to build a business around or leverage as their pine power influence increases so for the first time what we're seeing is technology trends are rippling from the youngest to the oldest and that's a huge shift. It used to be from the oldest more affluent down to the youngest. But now we're seeing younger. People are actually driving tech adoption up to the older but the key as an entrepreneur mississippi that we coach entrepreneurs about is being able to sort of step out of your generation and look at it through the lens of another generation. it's what we call generational contexts. One of the best ways to do that is actually bring members of that generation into the conversation. I can't tell you how many times i'm speaking at places. And they're asking me all these questions about millennials or gen z and. I'm like well. Why don't we invite some of them to the conversation. Let's talk to them. Uh let's actually talk with them. See what they say. Say get and so. I think when you look at bringing generational diversity into the workplace into innovation. You can solve all kinds of interesting challenges. I'll give example right now. What we're seeing is the gen z and even younger millennials. I talk about both of these in this economy book. They want a different on boarding experience. Obviously we're in this time of covert and all these changes but even before that what we saw is that the youngest generation wants to be on once on boarding to be by text message. Which sounds i know a little bit wild but there are companies. Do all of their on boarding through text message so you get semes- before you Short for your first day in alaska you just give you a simple example. This is in the book from coming called on border. When you they'll send a text message and it'll say what's your favorite snack three o'clock when your energy starts to go down. Do you have a favorite sports team are causing all this sort of stuff and the is when you show up for your first day. Or they'll even now senator gift baskets to your house. They'll have all your favorite snacks ready for you on your show up because they already know because you put in your text message or the. Have your favorite sports team. Or they'll find the best place that you wanna go eat or have that food delivered so they're engaging you by text message in a process that generally used to be in person and frankly pretty terrible at most companies. There's another company that worked in with again. This is generational trend. They figured out how to pay all employees fifty percent of their wages every day at no cost. They're called instant and what they did. Is they basically said you get a text message or message on your phone after your shift. And it says hey. Would you like half your money today. Yes or no. If you click s you get your money. Will all the sudden now you have. An entire generation is growing so fast that thinks they should always be able to get half their paycheck. Every day will imagine how that changes so many other things and all the sudden other generations. What do they say well. This text messaging on boarding thing is pretty cool. You mean i can get paid every day. That's pretty awesome. I think i want that. To and all the sudden the generational trends creates huge businesses. And those are the types of things were seeing you know so much. Innovation is driven by other generations. This is the key they don't even think it's new or different when we interview them. They think you've always been able to do on boarding by text message because they never got on onboard before there was text messaging or if they've only worked at a place that gave them the ability to get paid every day. That's how they think everybody gets paid. And you know older generations. So i work with the frequently. Get defensive and they're like you know. The young generations are trying to change everything. And i'm like no. They're not this is just all they've ever known they don't know any differently. Change to them is actually doing what you're proposing and it's not about one being right or wrong. It's going we can. We can leverage us. We can adopt this and all the sudden on boardings better retention is higher engagement is higher in these types of things and you see it on the marketing side for those fire nation members who are really growing their businesses and they're more than sales marketing. Same exact deal and the idea is just recognizing this you're creating so much opportunity. We see this particularly with social media. We see this with podcast such as yours that this is a great way to engage younger generations who then index for talking about these things and driving awareness in referrals and excitement fire nation. So many things to take away here. One of my favorite things jayson broke down was specifically tech trends are rippling from the youngest. To the oldest. Like think about that shift. Think about that change. How the ripples actually going from the youngest to the oldest now which is a complete flip from how it used to be back in the day and one thing. I wanna really dial in on just because i'm personally curious and i think fire nation is to is this the up and coming generation now. Let's talk about generation z. Like who is generation z. And what do we need to know about them. Yeah absolutely so gen z. The key thing is that they're already twenty three or twenty four years old. So that's a good starting point and what we uncovered in our research and we publish. This is economy. Book is at gen. Z is the key thing we got all these research firms around the world to change their birth years. Gen z does not remember nine eleven and that is a huge deal because it's the biggest event for the millennial generation we call generation defining moment. But jesse doesn't remember it at all. They learned about it in school or heard about it from a parent or they watched the video on youtube. But it's not something they experienced and they're now twenty three twenty four years old so a huge event of the generation before they don't remember in fact they're they're covid nineteen is essentially their defining moment. This pandemic is the generation defining moment that they're gonna take with them and we talk about this a lot. So one thing is they. Don't remember kievan of a previous generation and the other is there. Cuban is happening right now. But what i think you're entrepreneurs will find super interesting is that we've been doing this. Study for the last five years called state of gen z and. It's our big study released every year. And what we've uncovered and we've seen it for five years in a row now is gen. Z is more practical or frugal with their money than previous generations. And this is shocking and when we dig into it what we find out is that gen z came of age around the great recession. And what do i mean by that. Their speakers are experts. Like you talked about earlier. This regurgitation people running around saying oh gen z struggled during the great recession in the workforce they were twelve and were not working right but instead what they did is. They saw their parents struggle. They heard their parents struggle. They know people lost their houses. They saw millennials drowning in student loan. Debt having back home a mom and dad and you put all that together and what you see is. They're very conservative or practical with their money. As a result they're driving double digit growth at stores. They like couponing they wanna know. They got a good deal. They want things to be a bargain. They want them to last a long time really have utility and what we see. The example. i'd like to give is a gen zero sixteen years old. We'll have a birthday party. They'll get fifty dollars. They're all excited it away. And then they'll go to their mom or their dad and say hey. Can i have fifty dollars. Wanna go buy something. Mom or dad will say but you just got fifty dollars. And they'll say oh. No that's my money your money. It's overseeing that so if you're trying to market to them you've got to understand their practicality with money we also see the gen z when we do values based research. What we find is for the last four years Their top concern was climate change. Or would they would call climate crisis in their own words. And so that's been the top that they've been looking for brand alignment and for entrepreneurs to get behind and so forth however in the last six months we are new study. Social justice has leapfrog. Climate changes their top issue. And it's significantly more now so all the sudden as you see the generation respond to events around them. You can sort of see how they're shaped so if you wanna make sure in line with their values you gotta know what their values are going. Even deeper on the employment side is people look to hire them. Gen z no is looking for stability. This one's this one's tougher for entrepreneurs. So i want to explain it. They're looking for stability in an employer. What do i mean by that. Gen z saw these layoffs. I heard the layoff. Seen millennials struggle and as a result they're looking for an employer that they view as stable. So it's interesting because they tend to automatically defined stability by being a big company. So they'll say. I want to work for a big company will say why and they well because they're stable and the truth is you and i both know that. Just because you're big company does not at all mean that you're stable and just because you're a small business doesn't mean that you're not stable so it's important that you message to them. We also found in our research is gen. Z is very much interested in benefits which is shocking given their age in fact two years ago. Twelve percent of gen z was already saving for retirement. Wow and yeah. That's crazy right and many of them already have an emergency savings account. These are eighteen year olds. That are taking up their phones showing us emergency savings accounts and it. Just it's such a different generation. I think the key here. Mrs so important for all the marketers who are listening our nation is at gen. Z is not millennials. Two point oh they are not millennials. Just more extreme. That's total bunk. People say that it is not true. Jesse is a completely different generation raised by different set of parents who has come of age only knowing social media it has always existed for them. That's why they trusted so much at the same time. They're more diverse than any previous generation. Different set of values different purchasing pathways. And now the key is they over index on influence because of how they use digital media and already twenty four years old fastest growing generation in the workforce today on a percentage basis. And they're gonna be the most important consumers to get right over the next ten to fifteen years. One thing that i assume and please correct me if i'm wrong. Because it's just an assumption but generation x. And millennials like this is like. I'm speaking of my generation's here that i cut kind of overlap. Both pretty closely. It's we came to like being seventeen eighteen years old and it came to money in debt. Just kind of close our eyes and kind of believed the rhetoric of. Hey you just have to go to college and it's going to be expensive and you're going to get college dad and that's okay and you're just going to be a paid off at some point in the future and now like millennials and gen xers just hammered with this dead. They can't payoff ten twenty even sometimes thirty years later because it was just brutal with the mountains of debt that people kind of blindly get into it. Seems from what you're saying. Generations not gonna kind of take that same approach in just blindly. Sign away their lives to this debt of secondary education in colleges and universities in the such. Is that true. Wow that is such an insightful. I mean you you are super pro do so yes. That is actually true What's interesting is when we studied student. Loan debt with millennials in particular. That's what we call an economic anchor. So what it's causing. It's actually causing millennials. Now this is wild to delay marriage kids and buying a home because of student loan debt and that has massive ramifications on all parts of the economy to everything from financial services whether or not. You're buying life insurance. You know the the homebuilding recovery like on and on we could keep going to income households. There's just there's so many things that are impact even ultimately the ability to take care of your parents later on so what we saw. Was that large student loans at delayed major life commitments which we which is what's happened as a result And by the way gen z will tell you they're not sure that if spending a whole bunch of money and college actually pays off his it remains to be seen right now for millennials. We were told. I'm a millennial. We were told getting the best college at an. Just get debt. And will all be worth it and then for a lot of it wasn't on the flipside. Gen z in our new. Study in this in this economy book because it's important to understand how thing about education gen z is trying to graduate from college with as little as possible ice which is super cold. They're also saying that they're looking. They're very interested in the employability of their career. So so if they go and they pursue a certain path. Am i going to be able to get a job in that path. Now by the way kobe. Nineteen has been a massive massive. You know challenge for that because there are people that were three or four years into college university you know. Maybe they're going to study retail merchandising. Well aren't hiring never hired for that role again or they studied. You know oil and gas and those aren't hiring whatever it is so all the sudden people who already had you know pretty heavy commitment are now realizing that that path isn't there for them but we are single. Gen z particularly during this experience. Right now is they're saying. Hey i want to make sure. I'm getting value for my education and raven seeing well if it's going to be online only i'd rather go to a community college or state school or somewhere else. Get some credits. And then i'll figure out. If i want to go back into the future maybe take a year off and then come back and so forth so there definitely much more conservative with debt when it comes to college university and by the way the other people who are more conservative are their parents boomers had to cosign on all those millennial loans just. That's my mom about it right. And that as a result for many millennials it was tough for them to pay it off on the flipside. Gen-x is going well. I don't know if it's worth it gen x. Gen z kids. You will not end up. Like those millennials so the that's also being weighed into the conversation now is college university worth it and then you add the layer of kobe. Nineteen is it worth it if it's nontraditional experience and you know i don't know the answer to that but it is something we're observing and now this is where it gets really interesting. So the oldest members of gen z. Those that are about eighteen to twenty four. They're bearing the brunt of this. Pandemic what i mean by that is in our latest study. That group was most likely more than any other generation to lose their job. Have a decrease in pay or have a shift in responsibilities meaning. They had to assume a job that they didn't sign up for where it gets interesting though is younger so my daughter is nine years old. Her name is russia Sushi is in fourth grade right now. She heard this is in the book in third grade. Her last end of the year project. Which i didn't know anything about Was she went and built a presentation. She built all and google sides. She built it all in spanish. She had animation. She presented it. She recorded it and then she uploaded to classroom and she thought that was completely normal. She's nine and then of course. You saw one of my powerpoint slides. He's not very good. So i say that because the younger members of gen z. This is the real twist here. They might end up turning this pandemic into a positive. Because they're going to learn a whole different way to learn to collaborate they're going to get the benefit of the older part of the generation struggling. So they can learn from them. All of this stuff largely will be resolved in terms. Of least what normal looks like in the future and so they're gonna get the benefit of all of that the closer you are to those transition years of eighteen to twenty four the worse is but the further away the more benefit could end up being you so it's pretty interesting that within the same generation you can have two very different experiences and by the way this is what happened. To millennials millennials like me who crashed into the great recession and then the millennials who came afterwards who benefited from a very robust economy. So even within the same generation you can see pretty significant differences. I mean fire nation. I really hope you're enjoying this contest. Much as i am. Because i'm seeing the application to the real world and that's so important because we're entrepreneurs in the real world. We own businesses and companies in the real world in this stuff makes a massive impact so jason of everything that you shared today. What's the one key takeaway that you really wanna make. Sure fire nation gets from all of this awesome stuff above generational impact and the generational studies. That you've done and then share how we can even learn more about it through you and any call to action. You might have for fire. Nation is time to share. Yeah absolutely so the number. One thing that i would share. You know as an entrepreneur myself now for twenty four years is i would do. It's called a generational snapshot and what that means is you create essentially a pie chart representing the different generations. Either of your customers or of your employees or team members or ideally of both. Because what you'll often find is that there's more generations and you suspect it and it will help you to shape your messaging your leadership in your marketing to better fit them and going a bit further if you don't see enough of the next generation coming in particular on the customer side that's definitely a yellow flag that you need to pay attention and make sure that your dappling for the next generation because they will be the ones that drive growth. So that's the best easiest how to that will cost you zero dollars that a promise will make you money. Which are the type of things i'm all about. And if you want a whole bunch more in terms of how to actually recruit and retain motivate and so forth across generations or market and sell. You can definitely check out the new book. It's called economy. How gen z will change the future business and what to do about it. We do talk about all four generations and just packed with how to in case studies and all kinds of cool stuff and we'll put together a special promo for fire nation. New it be on my website. Which is jason dorsey. Dot com slash. Fire you'll be able to get all of that. They're including three free video courses. Because i am a passionate entrepreneur. Have been for a long time. And anything i can do to help them. Nation will fire nation. You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with and you've been hanging out with j. d. n. j. l. d. So keep up the heat and head over to your fire dot com type jason in the search bar. The page will pop up with everything that we've been talking about today. But of course jason. Dorsey dot com slash. Fire is gonna get you to that gray page with all that awesome content. And i just wanna jason. Thank you for sharing your truth. Knowledge value with fire nation. Today
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