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Hour 2: 4/17/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 2: 4/17/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion and patterns re of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. Welcome back. We continue with more phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. Scott Woodward on on the way out at LSU. A lot of names already excuse me. It's got Woodward rumored to replace Joa Leib at LSU. Scott Woodward is athletic director at AM. He's an LSU native graduate. He's a Baton Rouge native. And we still have no confirmation on Joel livas firing or dismissal or whatever they want to couch. It the story broke about four hours ago, Tim Brando. Join us he I don't know apologized an fans, I'm not trying to force Scott Woodward to Baton Rouge. Although he is the name everyone is talking about. Let's get back to the calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. John is up next in Columbus, Ohio. Hello, john. Hey, paul. How are you doing great? Thank you. I was listening to the old Seth water on your show talk. And he said his top four had Clemson, Alabama, Michigan and Georgia. But love me. I don't understand how he could put Michigan in there. Well, let me they were John hold on a second. This is not an an individual decision. This is they're using data computers mall. They're using a format that this is not just a couple of guys saying, yeah, I don't like I don't like note that Paul. I'm sorry. That's okay. Telling me that do, but I tell you if you know, of course, I love the buckeyes, but I'll tell you scary team this year. I think will be Nebraska because they don't play Michigan Michigan state or Penn State, and they got the buckeyes at home. And Scott frost is a good coach. Great good. I think I think a lot of people's forget about Oklahoma. They got old Jalen hurts Lincoln Riley. He just feels the quarterbacks up, and they do the system. Hopefully Ryan day can do with field. What he did with Haskins? I watched the spring game. I didn't really see too much field. But I know he's still young. And Paul did you know, he was the highest recruit ever to go to the buckeyes. I didn't know that. No, I that's hard to believe all the great players that they had, you know. But we'll great to hear from you. John. Thank you very much. Again. A lot of reaction to what Seth told us the alita. Dilemma and the possibility of Woodward taking his place. A rod is in Texas. You're up next here on. Paul. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you talk to you. Thank you very much. There's a lot of deep speculation that there is some disappointment. From Scott Woodward at a in the m over the firing of Bill Kennedy and the president's displeasure with that. Okay. Do for those of us who don't follow. The situation who who was Bill explained the Kennedy situation to us Billy Kennedy the coat. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, bill. Okay. Fired. Okay. When you say France with sharp, no. That sharp was displeased. Okay. John Sharp is the chancellor, right? And I when you said Bill Kennedy, I forgot I mean, he's Billy everybody. I've never heard him. Call bill. I forgot the why. So that's okay. Hey, listen. I just misunderstood it. So. Billy lucci. Yeah. I know Billie is saying that it's a long shot that we can keep Woodward. Really? Yes. Yes. That's that's on tech sags and and Dallas Morning, News everywhere. So the word is according to Lucci that John Sharp, light Kennedy and. And now sharp is the chancellor of the system is that correct yet. I easy that the chance for the president. But you know, he rules. Yeah. No. I know I know John and we've interviewed him couple of times and no-one pretty well. But I couldn't remember what title was. But here's here's my opinion on the whole situation. If Scott wants to go back to his alma mater. I can completely understand that. What I can't understand is why anyone would go back to that says cesspool that is LSU. And I'm and by way of explanation. When I was a kid. My dad was in the bridge building business, and he went to lose the Anna to look at a job when he came home. I asked him dad, how was it? And he said. They wanted me to pay money. For me to look at the job. Hello. I'm listening. You know, that's the cesspool that Louisiana is. Well, a lot of people like down there on. Thank you for the call coaches up next in Morristown, Tennessee. Hello coach. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Hey couple issues. Obviously hot topics of the day when you like to be Scott. We words agent about right now. I would I would like to be if I could will the bidding war between LSU and take him for his services, and maybe a little bit better than even Rick Barnes have between Tennessee and UCLA. So I think it I think that they will make a run for it. I think that tech stadium's going to counter with an offer that's going to be pretty good also. But and I heard the previous caller, and and I don't I don't fault really Scott making the move in hiring buzz over Billy Billy's great game. But I I really I don't fault. Yeah. That, you know, listen, that's the first I've heard about that. And and I had not heard of that. I don't think it was a difficult decision to get rid of Billy Kennedy, especially when you knew you could get buzz Williams who is a is a better coach for an than than Billy Kennedy was true. Hey, no, saying on Barnes or heard your comment earlier. And that was kind of one of the points. I wanted to make also all the yes, he I think if he looks at it he shouldn't have he should not have made the comment, but it's only going to fit him. If he starts losing. There's only the only other things going to fix is his free meals for life than might affect. But that's going to be at least you made that point. It's not this is a meet point if he has another season just to successful if these head and he takes them further. This will be forgotten about win soft problems like, you know, sales and business coach these are only these are only things that come up, and as a former newspaper columnist you. You don't even think about this stuff until coach loses a big game or underperforms? And then you go into the file and you have at it. Otherwise is in by the way. I I don't think Greg Barnes. Really cares. One way or the other do no not at this point time in his career. Maybe when he. He was forty four. He would he would have been sixty four. No, I think he's he's got a he's he knows one thing. He would be paid a lot of money from now and till the next five years or up whether he wins or not. That's exactly right. But hey, appreciate you taking my call look forward to hear intense. Thank you, very much Brando coming up here in just a moment. Let's check in next with Ed who is in North Carolina. Hello, ed. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. I've been Tennessee football fan for forty six years. I've had season tickets out there about that long and other than Peyton Manning and t Morton, I really don't see why we haven't been able to get a good quarterback over the years. He sure was a Heisman finalist. Yeah. He's he's one bad. But I mean, I just don't think Gary tunnel has what it takes quarterback at Tennessee. Okay. And I wanna get your opinion. I don't know if he if he does if he doesn't I mean, he he didn't really have a lot of compliments around him last year. And if he can if they can build a line and give him some skill position weapons than I think he can be a lot better. I it's kind of hard to make a broad brush statement because you're talking about twenty five or thirty years and. I've heard Alabama fan say the same thing. But the, but they they they've suddenly run into a group of good quarterbacks. I it's it's you you also have a number of different coaches. I I don't know what the answer is. I'm on Jared. He he's he's young. And and I thought he had a pretty good year last year and look pretty good Saturday. But. I I can't tell you. He's going to be great. Thank you for the call, though, Tim Brando is always great. Let's get his take on the situation with Joel liba. He has been talking about a lever for a long time on this show. Cannot wait to get his take on the news Joe Aleve. Maybe gone. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We'll go back. So glad you're with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. Nothing official yet from that Rouge, not even any statements, but speculation all over the board that Joe alita is done forced out as the athletic director. And our next guest has been talking about the intersection of Joe Leyva and LSU athletics for a long time on this program tipped us off last night. This was eminent and Tim Brando joins us right now. Tim, thank you very very much in. We were all eager to get your reaction to. What is what is? Going on right now in Baton Rouge, the timing. Call I don't know as much about as I'd like I wasn't fooling around dinnertime last night that it was emotion. I got I think I may have left a message with you along about you did on ten ten o'clock or so in the evening after I checked a couple of other sources, I don't ever want to mention anything to anyone unless I've got a more than a one source, but listen, this is this is a byproduct of not just what's going on with the basketball program. But what's happened over a period of time, the lack of due diligence on many many fronts there is one name, and you may be reading about his name little bit core. If you follow the story closely past chairman of the board of supervisors, Richard Lipsey, Richard very, very influential guy. In in Baton Rouge who is very much in the skip Berkman camp. And he was very upset with the way that the courtship or lack thereof of JIMBO Fisher went down. And so it sort of began there. And then there were missteps along the way you may recall a couple of years back when the Florida LSU situation with the football game with with the storm coming with the hurricane in route how that was handled and and really the black Mark that was left on issue much more. So than Florida when this pissing match place between Jeremy Foley, and and Jila leva. And and the league was also a little bit late in getting involved. And I think it made at one point Commissioner say look bad all of this. You know, you add it up over period of time. And there was enough there for changes to be. Made even long before the the will wait circumstances came up. Now, you will be reading I'm sure from a lot of people, but most of them fans suggesting now that with leva dawn this clears the way away they are two separate issues will wait is not in the clear by a long shot. We'll find out I guess what day after tomorrow, whether he'll testify and if he does have the testify then that situation will rear its ugly head again. So I think this was I'm not gonna say it's not that the timing of this is not been moved along a little bit by basketball. It may have you had a year left on his deal, but admits it's made easier by waiting and and and when you have the right time and the basketball situation allowed for the time to happen now, then it's easier to make this move. Pay mothra year and make it look as though he's stepping down. And that's the way I think this is all going to work out. Once they, you know, work out, the semantics of the circumstances talking to Tim Brando, Tim let me let me ask you about. Wade first then we'll come back to what's next. Regardless of what happens with the trial next week. Give us your best evaluation and analysis of will wait future at LSU. It's better than it was a week ago. It's probably more fifty fifty than thirty seventy which I think I would have had that. That's that would have been nicer NOP since then. But I think the fact that Aleve is going probably enhances wait circumstances. Particularly if his lawyer who has a track record for doing the job in similar circumstances. Particularly with Bruce Pearl gets the job done. Now. It's a little different this time around because parole wasn't on reportedly on a wiretap. And we'll was and is and he's not been, you know, loose was never subpoenaed to appear in court and be under oath and will is, but if they can find a way to keep. Him from having to testify, and what is today, I think the first day of national signing day track. Let's say some of these kids that are supposedly in his hip pocket, particularly the one in mountain brook. Alabama comes his way, then you know, the worm could turn in the direction for Wade, and possibly as I think our friend Glenn Gildo suggested with you yesterday if not the day before the chances of his survival are heightened as a result. But, but that's a that's a lot to have to have happened for will to be in good shape. To me, given the circumstances of of of what LSU has faced and the image it that it has taken. I I would suggest that as Jay Bilas says his survival is is survival chances are minimal. But we've seen this happen before Sean Miller went out and was defiant in the eight in case in Arizona, and he managed to survive, Bruce, Pearl never really had to do that. Because he was never tied directly to Chuck Person win when Chuck was in fact, arrested and you saw what happened with him. So these are these comparisons that are being made conveniently by a lot of fans don't necessarily add up because they those coaches never faced the circumstances. That will wait is facing right now. Tim what's next because there are a lot of names out there, including Scott Woodward, friends in Texas, really wonder why he would leave very stable situation where he's likely to get a better deal any hour to go into Baton Rouge. But it is home, of course. Yeah. And this is what I've heard based on the context I have down there. And and Scott is a Catholic high guy when I say Catholic high to those in Baton Rouge in southeast Louisiana. That's one of the real pillars of that community. My first cousin. Greg was once the headmaster at Catholic. I in fact, I think he was when Scott was in high school there. He went on to become an LSU graduate mid eighties, and was very much a part of the skip Berkman regime at LSU, and and by the way, another man that was part of that whose name will probably also. Surface. I doubt that they'll be able to get him. But he was very much a part of LSU success story when skip was named AD Scott Renna kovic now the athletic. Clemson Scott really did do the work for skip. When he was the Atlantic director. Skip of obviously is beloved in that community and Richard Lipsey one of his well. In fact, he is his closest friend. So the Berkman factor from the outside looking in with the people involved here Lipsey is a former past chairman of the board of supervisors and his relationship with skipped being what it is. In addition to that, Scott Woodward being part of that those tentacles the tree if you will of Birdman as a young young man coming up after graduating in being a part of that athletic department, tree plays very strong into this. And i'm. Told by a number of people that I really count on that if it becomes a bidding war, they Inam would win any more. There's far too much money there if they really wanted to pay up to keep him they could but hit that's home. It's absolutely home. This connection not only to LSU. But also, the Catholic ties very strong. And if they were able to pull that off and get him that would be quite a coup. He's gotta be considered the front runner. Paul. Absolutely, no doubt about it. But if AM does come strong, and he just hired buzz Williams, and which I think is one of the greatest sires in the all season of college basketball. If it's too late for them to get him. I'm gonna throw out an outlier for you that I think has not been mentioned yet by anyone in the media, even in the Anna. And that would be heard, Vincent. Oh, yes. A senior associate Commissioner of the southeastern conference office. Herb cut his teeth as a student assistant. Way back in the day in the eighties. When Paul Manasseh one of the legendary which relation people brought a so many people up that was when gosh, I think you'll working here. Now, it's always in charge. Sure of the sports information department heard was part of that tree. And and and became very much a part of the athletic department at LSU before going to the SEC office. I think I when I say this to you. You'll agree with me is there a school in the southeastern conference that has fallen as much disfavor within the conference as LSU in the last handful of years, and there's a, and, you know, a lot of it is known Tim Rodber of it is not known because there are things that we could bring out that are just it's embarrassing everyone. Absolutely. Well, without in mind who better to heal those wounds than someone from within the SEC office and would not the southeastern. Conference office be happy to know. Absolutely in charge at LSU. Right. So to me he would be now he's never been an athletic director before. And I think that's one of the things that always comes into play when jobs like these pop up. And that's where would has. I think the inside track has would a guy like Radic Ovitz. There's been some talk about Nunez who's inside this. But who knows is much more part of the Aleve a family, which I don't I don't believe I think that'll be a radical added some within the I think the the the the ethnic apartment there that are that are under a lever right now have a chance of of staying there. Well, liked I think the guy like jaws varies really well there, and it's done a great deal. And of course, was a former player LSU, but I think making a a a move towards someone younger someone who has ties with the school, particularly someone like Woodward makes a lot of sense if not him to me the next best option. In for them would be her vincit. Well, that is really a fascinating report. Many many thanks him. We we pay great attention to what you say about everything. But when you talk about Louisiana, we we listened even closer. Thank you so much for sharing the information. Thanks for tipping us off last night. So we could be somewhat prepared today. And we hope you around the Gulf was good today. I did. Okay. Thanks, paul. Good to be with you. Thank you, Tim Brando who works very hard works pretty much every day of the week for most of the year. But this is a little bit of a quiet time. And we appreciate him. Joining us this afternoon. We have a couple of more guests later, but mainly your reaction to what we've already heard a lot lot on the table here. And that name her Vincent who's one of the Greg Sankey top lieutenants in the Birmingham SEC office. Fascinating name to chew on pretty sure. L LSU will have a battle on their hands. If they tried to get Scott. Woodward away from college station, we are back with more after this. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Okay. We are back in. If you want to give us a ring eight five five two four two seven two eight five Brando's from fantastic information from him. We've had a couple of reports from Baton Rouge nothing official yet. But everyone considers it a foregone conclusion that the has been ousted in Baton Rouge. Fred is up next in Texas. Oh, thank you. I what PM didn't report. And this is also breaking news is that accurate shops in Louisiana are already running low on rough. So you may want to add that listen Paul if they really mardi gras was three weeks ago. It's been extended I heard, and I tell you what. That mardi gras was really going on because there's excitement about Joel leave leaving. And they're really a few reasons and some of them we in your control, someone not but from less miles, and he's handling of that situation to Johnny Jones and the lack of success the basketball program to sitting we away he's really been seen. We talked about this before is one really more controlled by circumstances instead of being in control of you add to that the fan disgust and disappointment surrounding the lack of football title and win away situation really became the ball wrestling phrase, a loser leaves town match, and we'll we'll wait one in terms of getting back. Those people that backed him. Essentially had the impotence emphasis to say, hey, it's time for Joe Joe. And that's you compliment he's been wildly unpopular in this. And not enough to say that why was he in popular Paul do you remember for days, it was rumored that les miles is going to be fired ahead of that EM game. And it was like a funeral pole. And eventually people really begin to feel sorry for less mile. You remember that for sure and some people never forgot that they see why would you publicly embarrass this man drag this man's name through the mud had them come into work every day with no public statement as far as what his going to be. And then at halftime during the game. The news comes out. He's gonna stay is this you can't have that and be successful. And it just has one other thing, paulie. And you work in the you've seen this business. You've seen people at the top of their game. You have to have pluck and a Plum to do this kind of job skills, which Aleve or often seem not to. Naturally possessed and listen great interview birds berry, he is a fantastic choice as interim it'd be and I think he's gonna get a serious. Look, I I remember him from when he was LSU is a plan. He's been he's been he's well loved the confidence and those who work with him, and it gets a lot where with people which another thing that Aleve ahead issues with. So those are some of the reasons I think people are excited Paul, what do you think this is gonna mean going full? Well, I don't know. I think some of it is how is couched they're probably trying to figure that out now. But you know, weight is going to be the topic number one. And I'm not even sure the new AD will be able to deal with wait. Wait, wait could be dealt with pretty quickly. If if things go against him on Friday with this testimony, if he ends up tested testifying for it. I think that's going to put him in endanger. But then it really depends on who it is. I mean, if it's got word, we're then. You're talking about a professional if it's someone else who's on the job for the first time, then he's going to be subject to the whims of the same politicians who have their hand in the till as Joe elisa's had to deal with a great point. You know what? Polly. And I think you'll appreciate the remember the movie heaven can wait one would Warren Beatty. Sure, you remember there's a scene where this guy I think milked was his name. He was the former owner of the Rams, and he's complaining to one of his friend about babies character. Leo falls with having apply to team and his friend asked him what kind of pressure. Did he use mute and Neil says, well, I asked fifty fifty and he said, okay? If hanging them wants to keep Scott Woodward bed going to be the Leo Farnsworth. They are going to be able to keep them if it's a money situation. But if he wants to come home like a lot of people do when you get in that kind of position that he's only been in the end they for four years. He's already been by king. Busters soccer understand why he'd be a top down that list. But. AM yupik. They're going to want to let him go. Fred, thanks for the call were up against a break. Plenty more to do on this program and your phone calls. We are coming right back. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back lot going on. And let's get to the calls and fishbone is in Louisiana fishbone. Welcome to the program. Are you doing we're doing great? Thank you. So are ball at it could be over for my bluetooth. That's great Ludd going on with this LSU as you'll leave ahead to go, man. I know it's not official, but. Man, that's been a that's been a of coastal him. I'm glad he's out. Scott would would. He's got there with the money. In the this is fan called in. Well, it go talkin about the we've John cesspool tell you what that's that's showing ignorance, I work all over Texas. A work one of the largest commercial construction companies in the US, and I have to deal with aggies and Texas people a lot, and there's there's a lotta shady stuff goes on Texas. So he needs to really know what he's talking about talked about his daddy was a bridge builder. Went over. They want him to pay to bid a job that happens. A lot is it's called a a bid bond, and there's a lot of secretive information that goes into large job like that that you have to basically bid bond to show that you have the capabilities to understand this job and be able to build it and maximum tell you what I'm just. Just irks me about this. But now you saying that just you know, they're out they have set about or the happy right now about the triple seven game. You know, it's temple seven-game as Paul it that triple seven game was took him seven years seven times seven referees to be. That's great. But they come into by religious. Yeah. And we'll be ready for them. Oh, love your show. Thank you, some of bobby's my favorite call. And and you you got me took over the day. You got him laughing. Well, thank you fishermen. Great here, by the way, the advocate in the Baton Rouge paper is reporting according an unnamed. Board a supervisor that it is a done deal. He said that it the the the ouster occurred last night when the group met in executive session. It says everyone was not. On the same page. There were few members of the board that were not happy. But enough. Wanted. Joe alita out also said when the school officially announces it will be cast as a retirement, and you wonder why we don't believe bureaucrats just say he got fired like who. Really cares. CB is in Tuscaloosa, go right ahead. How you doing today, sir? Cbi always great having on good. Thank you, sir. You know, this LSU soap opera, you know. I know we'd beaten to today. But and I've heard folks say, well, you gotta look at his contract. What isn't it? What an anybody's contract. Mr Paul that you you can pay to play in u. And they got you on tape it that don't work does. I mean, you gotta be fired. Well, yeah. I mean, I seems like he should have been fired weeks ago. But I I think when it all comes out, we're we're going to find out that the Joe alita was really the wizard of Oz behind the curtain, but people were pulling strings and. He probably would have fired. Wade six weeks ago, but he was told he couldn't. Let's call one more thing about the spring game out Obama. It's hard to tell in the spring games. I know, but this I'm also met Jones bone now. I know two starting quarterbacks both to eat those darts a dead. You say snakes David throw darts was sodas to he's tough. And but I want about Matt Jones if he don't get to start next you've got two kids. We're gonna have a lot of quarterback stuff. I heard a lot about that about MAC and to his brother in Tyson. But I mean, it's way too early to know whether there is a heir apparent back there or not. Hey, thanks for the call. Great to hear from you. John in Memphis is up next. Hey, John tape ball. Thanks, take them a call. When I am UT graduate pharmacy school seventy seven now. Maybe I missed something. But this forthrightness of Rick Barnes. How would it look two weeks from now if somebody in LA broke the story about UCLA quarter? Was that British before he made his an outfit when no what happened yesterday? I think was he just somebody. He was at a press conference. They asked him was it a close call. He said, well, he probably would have gone, but you know, he had a five million dollar buyout and UCLA wouldn't pay it. Same thing happened to. To say, Jamie Dixon at TCU. Okay. One more thing. Everybody's talking about. Well, we're going to go with them until you lose the game in you name. Tennessee basketball started next year with the whole the whole starting team gone. Well, it depends. It depends on whether anyone comes back after they get their reports from the NBA. But if they all get good grades. No. I couldn't do it. So I don't think it'll take too long, then lose you. I think the program is in good shape, but good shape, but good shape in the SEC. Means you could go from second or third to eighth or ninth. Very quickly. Hey, thanks for the call. Good to have you on. Dave and Baton Rouge is up next. Hello, dave. Hey, paul. How are you doing? Well. Dave, thanks for the call. Why are you know, I told you for weeks ago? This was going to go down. And you thought I was crazy. Doesn't surprise me. The lever is is is done. And it's not going for prize me that Steve comes back from AM to be our athletic director, the Miami, Mr. Brando was speaking. He's he's got the pockets and more Poolville be booked written about him and movies about him one day. And I'm telling you, he's. The this is oh to lose. And as it gets, and you gotta governor trying to get reelected right now. And you got money people putting pressure on him. It it is it has been something to sit back and laugh about if you from south Louisiana, and you you enjoy this kind of stuff this has been some kind of a show. Well, it's like a bad John Grisham novel. No doubt. I don't think president of university will make it through there either. And and it's not just about the wheel weight thing. This has been coming for a while. And Mr. Lipsky, very smart, man. Very smart businessman has done very well for himself. And you know, he's the puppet master right now. And you know, that's just the way things is being written right now. And and I think the school. Better off with Aleve or Goan. He needs to be gone. He hasn't done us any favors. He's caused us a lot of problems, and you know, whether you want to support we'll wait or not or where you think he's don't coach LSU or not. I think that the the the one of the good things, I've is situation has come is that we have gotten rid of believe, you it may turn a lot of people around on. We'll Wade because Leyva was the. The scab on this situation that nobody no one could get past. He and by the way, Lee mo- mo-, most of the levers problems. I think have been self inflicted. Dave. I mean, he is absolutely without a down. Just a, you know by most people's accounts in Aragon jerk without a doubt. And and I don't know, you know, I, you know, the prey to run around the time.

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Alleva'd of Duties

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Alleva'd of Duties

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion, then patron Torri of college football leagues here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Best of podcast. What the program in what a busy day? It has already been for the last two days. We've been reacting to the decision by Joel lever, the athletic, director dollars shoot to reinstate. We'll wait will now. He may be gone. According to number reports. But first reported by our first guest this evening. Stephanie regal Leyva is heading toward the door. This comes in the aftermath of a meeting last night between the board of supervisors we don't exactly know what happened. But. Remember Joe alita showed up in LSU after escaping Duke after the Duke lacrosse scandal. And he has been the steward over a number of decisions, including firing less miles than deciding to reverse that ended up with Joe ended up with that ores. Ron, of course, hiring will Wade from VCU Stephanie regal who broke this story down in Baton Rouge earlier today in the business reports definitely great to have you back on the show. We were all sitting around having a nice quiet day when your story appeared, and you sent pretty much the entire college sports world into overdrive. Thanks for being here. Let's begin with though, what you learned. And maybe what has happened since then good afternoon. Afternoon. Thanks. It's nice to be here. We were able to confirm, and and this talk had been had been swirling about certainly yesterday. And before that Joe Aleve. Oh will step down. And I'm not sure if they're going to couch it as a retirement or resignation, but but basically he has he has been forced out. And you know, I think there was growing pressure both inside and outside of the university community. We saw the outside pressure. You would see posts on social media. And the, you know, I rate fandom and also the boosters that were displeased with many of his decisions rightly or wrongly going back several years. But from what I was told today that there was pressure. A lot of pressure inside the university to and finally just got to the point where they decided he takes time for him to go. Stephanie this all comes. Conveniently in the aftermath of this five six week long. Will Wade conundrum which fans did not like anything. Joe Leyva did even after reinstating him was that or is this the tipping point? The breaking point. It was certainly one of several factors. It is so ironic that after weight is reinstated. As you say Aleve is the one that's going. There was this big hushed board meeting yesterday. And I sat there for two hours while they were in executive session, and it was extensively called talk about pending litigation. And I know they discussed the Wade matter there, I was able to confirm after but the decision relative to Aleve with made prior to that meeting yesterday and all the pieces were already in place from what I understand the university is finalizing a statement that it's been a make either sometime later today or tomorrow, but I think before the end of this week for sure who was surely taking their time, which is fine with me my question to you. And and I don't know of anyone really has the foggiest idea the answer. But what if anything does this mean to will Wade who has been reinstated? But to too many still seems to be twisting slowly in the early spring wind. Yeah. And I wish I could apply on that. But I really can't. And that's not my area of expertise. Anyway, what will be more interesting to see who takes Joel livas place at LSU, then already. There's there's buzz out there about that. All I've been told fishery is that it's very, you know, well known much loved high, you know, highly respected figure in the college athletic world. The Dallas Morning News has reported already that, you know, Scott Woodward is is the man that that many beliefs that will be, but he has not told his people at Texas ain't him yet. And no-one at LSU has said that get you just routes for people understand Scott Woodward, who by all accounts is one of the best athletic directors in the country. We talked to him a week ago on this program will some of you outside of. That Rouge or college station may be asking why Scott Woodward will Scott grew up in Baton Rouge went to LSU has worked at LSU. He worked under Mark emirate and went with Marc Emmers to Washington, Mark. And of course, now, the president of the NC double A Stephanie. Realized so much of this is unknown at this point. But this board of supervisors would it have been there. Call to make or would it or was it king Alexander the president who subsequently made the call. How do you think it went down? Paul Klee, the board of supervisors can't spire Jila Lifa. So technically, it wouldn't be there. Call to make by the letter of the law, but whether they pressured king Alexander to make that decision whether there were higher up political forces involved, which some have have said like in, you know, if the state highest levels of state government, technically, no, the board did not force him out. But did the board apply pressure and did others in state government apply pressure? I think it got the point where the writing was on the wall and everybody could see it. If that makes sense from the mean, we're talking about Baton Rouge here. Nothing makes sense. But you, but you've done a great job of trying to make sense out of it all, and that's why we were so eager to have you almost Stephanie. Thank you, a quite a scoop by you and your publication, and we always enjoyed chatting hope you'll come back. Thank you so much have a good afternoon. To listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast Seth Walder from ESPN and try to figure out what's happening here scout Seth always great to have you. We haven't talked to you in a couple of weeks, and it is always cool to touch base. So who has the best chance to reach the college football playoff. I'm going to hold my breath as we wait to listen to you because I know you're going to give us four teams. We haven't thought of right? Well, I can't surprise you too much Paul. I mean who else would it be but Clemson and Alabama at the top. But I do think it is actually notable. When you look at those two teams because we have Clemson at Eighty-three percent chance to make the playoff which is for an objective model like this outrageously high. I mean, I think when we look at this. I'm not sure if we are sitting here talking over the next ten years in the preseason, we're going to have a team as high in the preseason to make the playoffs. We do. Clemson right now. It's just set up to perfectly. We've got. To defending national champion who everyone agrees. I think that is going to be great again is bringing back their most important player in Trevor Lawrence and the schedule is so soft. We are talking about one of the easiest schedules. Among power five teams. They they're to touchdown favorites over every single opponent that they have on their schedule. Their toughest game is at South Carolina. Their last game of the regular season for context. Alabama also plays at South Carolina. It's their fifth. Toughest game the history, Alabama not far behind, but we're so used to hearing the same things you just got through saying about Alabama. Yeah. There's no question there a major title contender. Seventy one percent. We have for them to the the real difference. Here comes down to the competition. The SEC we've talked about before Paul how favorably FBI views the SEC. And so you're talking about a number of challengers. I think there's a good chance that the SEC is able to put. Teams back in the playoff. We actually put that better than a fifty fifty proposition. And so that's good for Alabama. But the reality is they're going to have to play LSU granted Tuscaloosa, but that's still a challenge game. No matter what you're going to have a challenging game in the SEC championship game. So there are opportunities for Alabama to lose even as an elite team as it is still very likely that the tighter end up in in the final four. Okay. You double check my shot. You have Michigan in the top four. Yeah. That's the big surprise. That's what we're really out on a limb. I think the big ten is really interesting. Look, here's what's going on with Michigan F B I is incredibly down on Ohio State. And I know people feel like Justin fields, you know, as the next great quarterback at Ohio State. But the reality is you're talking about a brand new head coach and a new quarterback. There's a lot of uncertainty there when you're talking about these elite teams, you don't want uncertainty and so- Michigan while it's you know, maybe not as I catching talk about Harbaugh shape. Patterson? It's still that there's a lot more certainty. They're they're bringing back a lot of players. And so and on top of that. Sorry, Ohio State is coming to in Arbor this year end. So Michigan just had is the team that can take advantage of that the rest of the big teams maybe down a little bit. And so they're in a pretty good position to finally get into playoff. Forty-one percent. Listen, this is a team that was in contention all last year until the implosion at the end. So we shouldn't be that surprised. Should we? No. I don't think. So. I mean, we've yeah. Like, you said we've seen the they've come close. And I do think that this would be their best chance. I think there's a good possibility that a high of state won't be able to mount the kind of challenge that it did for Michigan in the past. You alluded to Georgia know, their schedule is is more difficult. But the because they have Notre Dame to have 'em both games at home, though. They do go to Auburn. I'm remembering the Georgia schedule off the top of my head. But that that probability is still pretty high. Hi, still pretty high because we think that the third best team in the country. Right. So even though there may be behind Michigan. I in terms of chance to meet the playoff ju just because it's scheduled. There's no question that when we talk about the things that we like about Alabama we like about Clemson. We like about Michigan talking about stability at quarterback and head coach Georgia has all of those things. It's obviously done a nice job in the recruiting department over the past couple of years. And so they'll that all goes into it. And so yeah, absolutely. I think that Georgia is in a pretty good chance. It isn't a pretty good position to make the playoffs again, especially because the SEC could get two teams. So once we get past these four chef who is nipping at the heels next. I think the interesting team here is another SEC team in LSU. Oh, and I think that people don't think about them really as being a contender because you consider. Well, they gotta go to Tuscaloosa, they're in the same division as Alabama. So how's that possibly going to work? Well, there's two things to remember one don't round down their chance to beat Alabama two zero gets low. We put it about a one in four shot. But that's not nothing. It is possible. They could do it. It is possible. They could win the division. But we've also seen teams from that very same division reached the playoff even if they only go eleven in one. And I think that's possible for LSU. Look is a really good team. It's their defense is going to lead the way. But I think Joe borough is overlooked in terms of his play last year he finished fourteenth in total QBR. I mean, there are guys that are were lower on that list that I've gotten a lot of hype there's this offseason Sam etlinger was behind Joe borough. And so I think the LSU really could sneak up on some people this year shows how how how deep do you rank? I mean, your your group how far down do they go? Well, we go all all one thirty. But you know, there's not that many teams that actually have a chance to win the national championship. I mean, I think we have it at nine teams of at least a one percent shot. Win national championship. And and so I think there's a lot of longshots. He'll a lot of teams that you have one percent to reach the playoffs. That's that's all possible. But yeah, I mean, we rank all one thirty if you need go. No. I was just thinking of you know, someone. Outside of this conversation who might be worth putting two bucks down on. Oh, gosh. Yeah. I mean, I think that. Well. I think there are when compared to Vegas. There are very few teams that we are longer on. And then the oddsmakers Michigan LSU and Clemson three teams we've already talked about are are those teams in terms of like total longshots. I'm not sure I mean teams that surprised me we have UCLA at one chick one percent chance to make the playoffs that would blow me away. But I suppose at a one hundred to one anything could happen. Always fascinating. So Jim Harbaugh probably not happy about the pressure. But after all your five he deserves a great to have you on chess. We will talk soon. Thanks, paul. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Nothing official yet from Baton Rouge. Not even any statements, but speculation all over the board that Joe alita is done forced out as the director in our next guest has been talking about the intersection of Joe alita and LSU athletics for a long time on this program. Tipped us off last night. This was eminent and Tim Brando joins us right now. Tim, thank you, very very much. And we're all eager to get your reaction to what is what is currently going on right now in Baton Rouge. The targeting call. I don't know as much about as I've like I wasn't him to around dinnertime last night that it was emotion. I got I think I may have left a message with you along about you did on ten ten o'clock or so in the evening after I checked a couple of other sources, I don't ever want to mention anything to anyone unless I've got a more than a one source, but listen, this is this is a byproduct of not just what's going on with the basketball program. But what's happened over a period of time, the lack of due diligence on many many fronts there is one name. And and you may be reading about his name a little bit gore. If you follow the story closely past chairman of the board of supervisors, Richard Lipsey, Richard very very influential guy in in Baton Rouge who is very much in. The skip Berkman camp. And he was very upset with the way that the courtship or lack thereof of JIMBO Fisher went down. And so it's sorta began there, and then there were missteps along the way you may recall a couple of years back when the Florida LSU situation with the football game with with the storm coming with the hurricane in route how that was handled and and really the black Mark that was left on LSU much more. So than Florida when this pissing match place between Jeremy Foley, and and Jila leva. And and the league was also a little bit late in getting involved. And I think it made at one point Commissioner say he look bad all of this. You know, you add it up over period of time. And there was enough there for changes to be made even long before the. The will wait circumstances came up. Now, you will be reading I'm sure from a lot of people, but most of them fans suggesting now that with leva dawn this clears the way away they are two separate issues will wait is not in the clear by a long shot. We'll find out I guess what they have to the Mara whether he'll testify and if he does have the dust by then that situation will rear its ugly head again. So I think this was I'm not gonna say it's not the timing of this is is not been moved along a little bit by basketball. It may have you had a year left on his deal, but admits it's made easier by waiting and and and when you have the right time and the basketball situation allowed for the time to happen now, then it's easier to make this move pay mall for a year and make. It look as though he's stepping down. And that's the way I think this is all gonna work out. Once they, you know, work out, the semantics of the circumstances talking to Tim Brando, Tim let me let me ask you about. Wade first then we'll come back to what's next. Regardless of what happens with the trial next week. Give us your best evaluation and analysis of will wage future at LSU it's better than it was a week ago. It's probably more fifty fifty than thirty seventy which I think I would have had that. That's that would have been my synopsis, then, but I think the fact that Aleve is gone, probably enhances wait circumstances. Particularly if his lawyer who has a track record for doing the job in similar circumstances. Particularly with Bruce Pearl gets the job done. Now. It's a little different this time around because parole wasn't on reportedly on a wiretap. And we'll was it is. And he's not been you know, with loose was never subpoenaed to appear in court and be under oath. And we'll is. But if they can find a way to keep. Him from having to testify, and what is today, I think the first day of national signing day track. Let's say some of these kids that are supposedly in zip pocket, particularly the one in mountain brook. Alabama comes his way, then you know, the worm could turn in the direction for Wade, and and possibly as I think our friend being gogo suggested with you yesterday if not the day before the chances of his survival are heightened as a result. But, but that's a that's a lot to have to have happened for will be in good shape. To me, given the circumstances of of of what LSU has faced and the image it that it has taken. I I would suggest that as Jay Bilas says his survival is survival chances are minimal. But we've seen this happen before Sean Miller went out and was defiant in the eight in case in Arizona, and he managed to survive, Bruce, Pearl never really had to do that. Because he was never tied directly to Chuck Person. When when Chuck was in fact, arrested and you saw what happened with him. So these are these comparisons that are being made conveniently by a lot of fans don't necessarily add up because they those coaches never faced the circumstances. That will wait is facing right now. Tim which next because there are a lot of names out there, including Scott Woodward, friends in Texas, really wonder why he would leave very stable situation where he's likely to get a better deal any hour to go into Baton Rouge. But it is home, of course. Yeah. And this is what I've heard based on the context I have down there. And and Scott is a Catholic high guy. And when I say Catholic high to those in Baton Rouge in southeast Louisiana. That's one of the real pillars of that community. My first cousin. Greg was once the headmaster at Catholic. I in fact, I think he was when Scott was in high school there. He went on the covenant issue graduate in the mid eighties, and was very much a part of the skip Berkman regime at LSU, and and by the way, another man that was part of that whose name will probably also. Surface. I doubt that they'll be able to get him. But he was very much a part of LSU success story when skip was named AD Scott Renna kovic now the outlet. Oh, yeah. Listen, Scott really did do that work for skip when he was the athletic director. Skip of obviously is beloved in that community and Richard Lipsey one of his well. In fact, he is his closest friend. So the Berkman factor from the outside looking in with the people involved here Lipsey is a former past chairman of the board of supervisors and his relationship with skipping being what it is. In addition to that, Scott Woodward being part of that those tentacles the tree if you will Berkman as a young young man coming up after graduating college and being a part of that athletic department, tree plays very strong into this. And I'm told by a number of people that I really count on that if it becomes a bidding war am would win any bidding more there's far too much money there. If. If they really wanted to pay up to keep them they could. But that's home. It's absolutely home. This connection not only to LSU. But also, the Catholic highs very strong, and if they were able to pull that off and get him that would be quite a coup. He's gotta be considered the front Paul absolutely no doubt about it. But if AM does come strong, and he just hired buzz Williams, and which I think is one of the greatest fires in the off season of college basketball. If it's too late for them to get him. I'm gonna throw out an outlier for you that I think has not been mentioned yet by anyone in the media, even easy, Anna. And that would be heard, Vincent. Oh, yes. A senior associate Commissioner of the southeastern conference office. Herb cut his teeth as a student assistant way back in the day in the eighties. When Paul Manasseh one of the legendary which relation people brought a so many people up that was when gosh, I think will working here. Yeah. Sleep always in charge chair of the sports information department heard was part of that tree. And and and became very much a part of the athlete department at LSU before going to the SEC office. I think when I say this to you, you'll agree with me. Is there a school in the southeastern conference that has fallen as much disfavor within the conference as LSU in the last handful of years, and there's you know, a lot of it is known Tim rod of it is not known because there are things that we could bring out that are just it's they're doing basing everyone. Absolutely. Well, without in mind who better to heal those wounds than someone from within the SEC office and would not the southeastern conference office be happy to know. They're absolutely in charge at LSU. Right. So to me he would be now he's never been an athletic director before and. I think that's one of the things home comes into play when jobs like these pop up. And that's where would has. I think the inside track has would a guy like Radic Ovid. There's been some talk about Nunez who's inside this. But you knows is much more part of the Aleve a- family, which I don't I don't believe I think that'll be a radical some within the I think the the the the athletic department there that are that are under a lever right now have a chance of of Stang there. Well, liked I think the guy like verge ause varies really well there and has done a great deal. And of course, was a former player LSU, but I think making a move towards someone younger someone who has ties with the school, particularly someone like Woodward makes a lot of sense if not him to me the next best option for them would be hurt vincit. Wow. That is really a fascinating report. Many many. Thanks him. We we pay great attention. Into what you say about everything. But when you talk about Louisiana, we we listened even closer. Thank you so much for sharing the information. Thanks for tipping us off last night. So we could be somewhat prepared today. And we hope you're around the golf was good today. I did. Okay. Thanks, paul. Good to be with you. Thank you, Tim Brando who works very hard works pretty much every day of the week for most of the year. But this is a little bit of a quiet time. And we appreciate him. Joining us and listening to Paul finebaum show podcast ship towers joining us talking about the hype train better known as the Georgia spring game. Chip, thanks for the time. As always, listen, we understand there isn't Tuesay as them. But let's try to understand why this is a must see event. Yeah. Like any spring game? No. I think Kirby is kinda made it that way Georgia just from the standpoint of you know, spring gangs are always what they are. No matter how you set them up. And however, you that if the competition, whether it's tubers ones, the ones, I stews, and and what have you Kirby's may descend much more of a event from a standpoint of unless you offer the recruits. Let's let's show the new recruits that aren't here. Let's feature the record recruits just got here. Let's bring back, you know, all the old bulldog run, the NFL, and, you know, for whatever reason, you know, an average of eighty thousand of per year has shown up for for Kirby smart, spring games. And that's compared to you know, I guess before Kirby got here. The. Greatest attendance air Edward G day game was was forty something thousand they probably average twenty thousand four that. So he's definitely peaking in for interest of the fan base. And kinda made it kind of fun now own the field, Paul. You know, I agree. I mean, I I don't think there's as much to look at in this particular spring is there, there's certainly there's no quarterback competitions. As there has been in the last three g day gains, nothing real intriguing on might start here or there a lot of era parents out there. But, but yeah, it should be pretty fun from the standpoint of honesty and who. Despite all the hype and the glitter and gold, and all that what what are you looking for just in terms of where certain players are. And I realize having real real realizing that sometimes you just can't tell very much. Well, you can't. And so here's the deal Paul is. You know, I mean Kirby's very much like Nick saving to the access during the week is is very very limited. I mean, we don't see a lot of practice. So from that standpoint alone. You know, I find, you know, the spring games would be more enlightening than they were in the past because you know, in the old days that would have seen a lot of the team by the time. They can try tried out for the spring game. Now, you have seen much so in particular, I wanna see what all the buses about. There's been a lot of fuss has been a lot of buzz with a lot of these fourteen early enroll ease at Georgia. I mean, there's a lot of early enroll ease everywhere, I think there were sixteen in Alabama and sixteen Clemson, and you know, just big early enrolling classes a couple of guys in particular Nolan Smith the number one rated outside linebacker in America. And nico- bay dean the number one inside linebacker in America. Both of them signed with Georgia in this class. It position. Of need and are in Tampa. And if create a lot of buzz, well, all I've seen them run through position drills. And they look good and doing that. But I'm I'm really intrigued about seeing him doing some eleven on eleven work, and and that kind of carries out throughout the lineup. But you know, again with Jay from kind of being solidified at quarterback the line solidified, you know, the D line. There's a lot of work to be done. But everybody knows who in terms of the pecking order, so it it's not real intriguing that Kirby would beg to differ. But you know, I'm not expecting a lot of you know, a surprise in that regard. Let's talk about Jake from. We had a guest on yesterday to really say his upside from this point on to the draft next year is is pretty phenomenal. He he's always been good. Even though some were calling for his ouster, even before the Florida, Georgia. Game last year, which your assessment. But I mean, I think I think gave I think the best is still ahead of Jake Brahm. I think he's largely under appreciated from a national standpoint. You know, maybe it's one of those situations where where you know, because on on the be in close I see more in him than maybe that they do on the outside. But I mean, I think there's nowhere to go. But up for for from that sounds funny. But because he has been so good. But he has another tier that he can reach and the, and if he can do that this year, he can carry Georgia wit, and and you know, a lot of special things can happen. I think he's a much better passer than most people give them credit for me. You know, his yards per attempt last year surprises. I mean, she's nine point three yards per ten. And so he didn't throw the ball around a lot. But when he grows any throws at vertically, and you know with a good run game. Like they're expected to have with the Andrea swift James coli now the offense coordinator, I mean, expect you to open it up a little bit more. They're still going to be run oriented. But I think you'll see much more of a true pro style offense in this coming year. And and if Jake from you know, does everything they say he's capable of doing between, you know, calling the plays and making throws it could be a big year. Georgia's offense, it's going to have a big year regardless, but he can he can make it even better. Talking to chip towers about the dogs. Listen, we had a guest on earlier Sheth. Walter Georgia predicted to be in the top four. This is no big surprise. This is where the dogs have been for the last couple of years what what are fans. Looking forward to and do they feel or do they sense? This is the year where the Alabama conversation finally comes to an end and Kirby smart beats his old boss. Yeah. Well, you know that the thing. So twenty nineteen is always kind of been the year since Kirby smart arrived at you know, everything that happened in twenty seventeen was a little ahead of schedule in my opinion. And even last year was a little bit of a transition year. And but I think because the rest of the east Georgia was just able to to to get back to the SEC championship game. But that you know, until they clear that Alabama hurdle. It's not clear, and and you know, last time I checked I mean, Alabama. I think we all keep waiting for them to take a step back. We waiting for. They did they lost a game last year. I yeah. I mean, you know, and then oh that staff turnover is going to catch up with them sooner or later, is it really I mean, you know. And yet. So I, but I do think based on the last two games. You just see how the last two games came to these programs or head to head from a competitive standpoint. And it's just gonna take one time, you know, for Georgia's to to be able to get over that hump. And if they do I think, you know, everything is there waiting for them. But they've got to get through Alabama. And I think they'll have that opportunity again the here again, Georgia's there in Kirby has done a great job. But that the issue right now is the rest of the east is not able to to hang and I don't see that happen this year. I think Florida's still has work. Do I think Tennessee definitely has worked to do in the rest keys as work to do to to upset that right now. And in the meantime, there were just holy fixated on on Obama. You told the truth right there at the end ship, and we get it. And for good reason. Why why shouldn't they be well? Yeah. And and look, I I think Kirby downplays relationship Nick save, and and his time there and everything now, I think we're starting to see a little bit of a push away though behind the scenes that yes interesting remarks as past week if the Athens touchdown club, you know, that I heard secondhand. And what it what it and saying, well, I mean, I just I just think he's starting to push away from the mothership. You know what I'm saying? You know, this is mine, and and and we're doing things our way we're not necessarily doing everything the way that they did it Alabama. We've got our own way of doing things, and and you just since that that separation, and and, but I think he takes very very serious in in wanting to be able to beat the mentor, and they downplay it, and they talk about it every time they made it. And each other. But I think behind the scenes that's a driving force for thirty smart. No doubt chip towers joining us. Thank you very much gray tabby on. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast the news breaking at quite a pace today. We now know it is a fish oil that Joe alita is leaving LSU the school making it official just moments ago with more statements king Alexander. We are grateful to Joe for his years of service and dedication to LSU under his leadership. LSU athletics has become even more nationally competitive and our our student athletes have reached new levels of academic achievement. Leyva had this to say the eleven years Anne, and I have been here in Baton Rouge have been some of the best in our lives. We have made life long, friends and memories in Louisiana. This is truly a special place. It's been an honor to serve LSU and I'm proud to continue to do. So. In a new role. So now that that's official the speculation all over the map about what will happen next. Scott woodward. Of course is a Baton Rouge native. He's a graduate Avila shoot. He just has made two of the biggest hires in modern SEC history with JIMBO Fisher, and then two weeks ago buzz we we had him on the show nine days ago talking about the future of Texas M athletics. Under those two coaches, we're joined now by Billy Lucia who covers that beat better than anyone and Billy. Thank you very much. Appreciate you coming on. And the first question is the obvious question. What do you know about Scott Woodward's future isn't going to stay or will? He be wooed away by LSU. I think boring. I wrote about it on my side. I've been told by multiple sources, Scott Scott, Paul them, getting confused them in fighting about about Scott all day. I've been told him multiple sources that a memorandum of understanding is already been signed. And that Scott Woodward will be the next athletics. Rector it unless you, you know, this happened really quickly. So you guys called me as I'm still chasing it down. But like I said I've heard from two sources and even third two that I have never been wrong for me in third. That's about as good as I can get on that one. And and it has been trending that way all day. I think. From the moment. I heard about it. This morning, Texas. Am was fighting a pretty uphill battle to reel him back in as I've seen as you know, from all the time covering this. Reeling back in typically doesn't happen when you're dealing with someone that's been doing this. So so long it's usually when they're gone, they're they're gone. This was not some sort of money grab by Scott. Woodward was like the seven pies payday D in the SEC had. He wanted to do that Lord knows he could've leveraged AM for probably more than LSU pay. So I don't I don't think it was about that. I think about impart any way to go in home. And then if there's more to it, and I think that'll come out, you know, as we continue to learn more about the cer-, certainly Billy would understand wanting to go home and not only did he work there. He worked under Mark 'em. Right. When when Nick Sabin was there, you ES ties to that community because he's from there. He also has worked in political consulting. So he understands the the scene. In in Baton Rouge were many don't. But I I am interested in is is a was there anything at AM that may have tipped the balance other than a chance to go back home again. Paul. I think if you look at it. There's one part of it just doesn't doesn't add up from the standpoint of you know, he lives about four minutes from the airport here. And it's about a forty five minute flight to Baton Rouge or New Orleans east there all the time, and and was just wrapping up building kind of their dream home here, and really you mentioned it buzz imbo. I mean if ever there's cruise control for an athletic director, Scott woodland was about to be on it. And you also reference a lot going on LSU. Even though he's familiar with it. That's still a pretty big undertaking right now to go in there with you know, between between we'll wait. And it's just so I have to believe. Yes. To answer your question. I think there had to be some other mitigating factors and are very familiar with Scott and talked to them a lot. I know how much he loved am in LSU and. You know, I've had conversations with them where I've always felt like if he were ever going to leave. It would be it. It wouldn't have to do with money. I'll put it that way. I do think though. There's something to do with respect right in in the fact that you're the seven ties payday d. In the conference Christel Kante, Texas making twice as much and you look around the league, and you go who's done with this guy has done who's done with. This guy has done at Texas. Am. Hiring. Jim who I mean, you guys would laugh me off the off this station if a year before they hire JIMBO said they were hiring same. You know, a lot of people would do that with buzz Williams, Texas ENA in basketball. No, they have to go higher mid major what they've always done. So on some level. I think that you wanna look at it. I don't need the money. But I am I being appreciated for what I'm doing here, but by higher ups, and then another thing I think you have to look at in. This will come out in the wash. I think is you see what is the status of Michael young, the president of Texas a man right now because Michael young has one year left on his deal. And is is the guy that hired Scott Woodward and brought him brought him from Washington with them. So he didn't think that if he thought that that cover was maybe not long for this world and end you combine that with going home, and you combine that with kind of. Look where do I sit right now in terms of how much being appreciate not by the fans, they love their, you know, they're really to a man right now, they ain't him fans and a lot of the hot power donors that have been calling me all day or pretty, you know, they're they're beside themselves at this could happen to be honest with you. Understandable. I mean, by the way, I mean, the next question, I ask you is almost I can't believe I'm about to ask you because I'm still digesting the news of a leave of being ousted, and then you coming on and telling us that Woodward is likely to leave so who would possibly be on on a list to replace woodwork. Because I I have to believe the school has not given this much thought. I think you're dead on on that. I don't think I've talked to people in athletic, and by that, I'm I'm talking about everyone from coaches to athletes to everyone today. No one no one saw it coming. I I will I will say I sent them growing frustration with Scott. I couldn't really put my finger on it because it had nothing to do with JIMBO Fisher. And he was beyond excited about the higher, a buzz Williams and things really seem to be rolling on the surface. But I mean, I think it comes as a total shock. So I don't think you're sitting there with a short list walking around right now. There's two sides to this is is number one like. It. It certainly seems like a great job for someone to walk into. You. Don't think you have to hire a football or basketball coach any time in the seal. On top of that, you, you know, you've got to really proven ones it seemed like perfect fit. So from that side. It's great the peyot be great. But I think you have to as a new dot com, and we'll have to kind of ask the hard questions and kind of get to the bottom of. Why would why would Woodward leave it make sure that it look it's a hundred percent because going home to LSU but again. Boy that hell job to walk into. And as we're talking we had Stephanie regal on earlier today. She's a local reporter, Billy and me this story just moving at a record pace. Now another. County's been heard from a prominent official down there. The the head of the Louisiana. The former head of the Louisiana higher education board is now calling for the resignation and firing of the LSU president king Alexander. So I mean, I I bring this up because I mean, it's got by the way, Scott, what would know all this. I mean, he knows the political scene that Rouge, but you're diving into an endless pit of uncertainty. But apparently, I which brings me to the question if Scott Woodward, indeed is taking this job. Exactly who is hiring him. That's a damn good question. And and you have to get LSU insider on that one. But I mean like you said he's privy to all that. And he's probably getting the answers. He needs them think about just walking into the will wait which way shin right now is made. I mean, I know I know I listened to him on earlier. And I know it sounds like it's all resolved and stuff. But there's part of me that sitting there going how much of that might be contractual. And just kind of you know, they can't just let him go right now. I to me it just seems like you're leaving Kush situation for one that that has its fair share of of issues and instability and uncertainty. But again, I mean, this is something I, you know, Scott, I know Scott, it's not an oh, he's not going to make no night. No, no. He's gonna limit. It wasn't Billy. I I can't. Thank you enough. I know you're in the middle of a breaking story. But thank you very much for being with us can tell you this day trade coaches a lot between shavers and Woodward and they almost did with a random. I know that Texas they will not be idling Joa liba. No. We have that. I'm sure buzz Williams and JIMBO Fisher will probably skip the farewell party for Scott Woodward who brought both of them in. Hey, thanks, Billy. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Paul. Thank you. I mean talking about a bombshell on a day of multiple bomb show. You could see a leva getting fired. But before that the ink was even dry on the statement announcing that he's moving on to this assistant to the president's role. Whatever the victim, Billy Lucci just broke on this show. A story that said Scott Woodward is definitely going back. According to his sources makes us even more stupefied. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Ralph Rousseau joining us the college football writer for the Associated Press Ralph it has been a busy day down here with Joa livas removal, and the likelihood of Scott Woodward going from AM to LSU as we say Hello to you. Good afternoon in your reaction to all of this. Yeah. Busy day in LSU. You know, the Aleve thing has sort of been percolating what for like three or four years now. I mean, I essentially starting with him trying to oust less miles at the end of I guess it was the two thousand sixteen season. I'm getting a little blurry here. And it wasn't that LSU fans necessarily. We're sad about trying to get rid of let's miles. It just that they did it in such an awkward and disrespectful way and ever since. Then it hasn't been a very good look for Aleve. I think that he has not been a very popular guy at LSU. And then the we will the will Wade thing happened this year again the fans come down on a lever. So that wasn't necessarily shocking, and nor is it shocking. That Scott would would would be the replacement because he is a Baton Rouge guy with ties to the school. The fact that it happened. So quickly clearly says that you know, maybe a hat to LSU that it had all of us in a row here and wasn't just going to, you know, not. No, not the nicest thing to do to Joe alita to negotiate with his replacement before he even out the door. Nonetheless. I think it inefficient day for LSU if they can get this all tied other way, or less less miles on line. One thing if the terrible thing to do he agrees with you. It by the way. Scott Woodward has such a deep ties that community not only did he work as Mark emerets right hand man, when he was the chancellor at LSU, but he was also in the political consulting business air for a number of years. So it might lotta people would say why does anyone want to get into that morass? But I mean, this is a guy that lived in it and profited quite well. Oh, and and listen, you know dysfunction in Texas AM have gone hand. Yes. Two. So he's done a nice job at Texas AM bringing a certain amount of stability. But he's also the guy who just ended a football coach a deputy five million dollar ten year guaranteed contract. And now is no longer responsible for that contract. Zach to me that's not a bad idea to leave. Because if that thing goes bad, not my problem. No, it was he'll he'll he'll tell us friends at LSU. Sure was nice spending their money and AM. Right, right. I do think it is interesting though. Like Woodward is definitely a guy. He made a big splash higher at Washington with Chris Peterson. He made a big splash higher at Texas AM with JIMBO Fisher did a nice job getting buzz Williams in there as the basketball coach at Texas AM as well. Editors around is not on the hot seat. Let's make that very clear, but we also understand the nature of the SEC means the hot seat is almost a weekly if not by weekly event, right? I mean, I, you know, ask Gus malzahn about what the hot seat is at Auburn. I it literally runs hot and cold. And or is your on sort of lived in that row world a little bit to where you know, a two game losing streak all the sudden puts you on the hot seat. So I am interested to see how this plays out with Woodward. Not being the one who hired or is you're on how if things go a little bed is he itchy to sort of make a big splash higher. If that just becomes lessens the leash on orange, Iran. If things were to go bad not that I'm saying they will. But if things get a little sour at LSU is a guy like would would more likely to pull the trigger sooner rather than later and tells you interesting there there's so much history of between these two schools. Not only did they play the longest game of the year this year in seven overtimes, but you had shave this leaving LSU for AM, and my memory's grab Aranda was about to go work for JIMBO Fisher until LSU coughed up enough money to keep him almost three million dollars a year. So. The road between Baton Rouge in in college station is well traveled. There's a lot of money being spent by these schools to try to catch Alabama, right and Chile like these two schools are just throwing money at the problem that is that is that we're stuck behind Alabama. There is there was a bottomless pit of money to pour into this. Neither of them seem to be gaining on Alabama. By the way, they are spending a ton of money to try to gain on Alabama. But that's the goal though. I mean, the only the only school that seemingly has made some inroads is Georgia. Right. And but Georgia doesn't have to deal with Alabama. I'm their backyard. Right. And that's the the main difference here is that Georgia only has to see Alabama in the NFC championship game or maybe the national championship game. But rarely does it actually have to bang has with Alabama and Georgia did is it took the Alabama blueprint and put all the cool things that Georgia now has around it. I mean, there's a long list of things that have gone on in Georgia that police it in this position is far as high school football and the recruiting area that have made it a V given Georgia the ability to possibly compete with Alabama. But the ones who are in direct competition with Alabama. They're just spending money like drunken, sailors and running on a treadmill in place. Yeah. And you mentioned or is you're on the will Wade situation. You have to believe that will take care of itself pretty quickly here. Maybe maybe sooner rather than later or is Ron is expected to have a really good team. But if you. If you if you check recent AD changes, it seems like some sort of change usually happens fairly quickly either in basketball or football. I you wonder if with is you're on, you know, he's he's a favorite son on one hand down there and LSU, obviously, he has you know, he's he's he's literally one of them. Right. So I think that there's probably a great desire among LSU fans for him to be successful because he is very much one of us. Right. But I also think that that balance is off with a certain skepticism because remember when they when they hired ores run. Another reason why leva wasn't necessarily beloved is because they thought well, we're just sort of settling for our interim coach as opposed to actually running a a real search, and they sort of got burned because Tom Herman played them a little bit, right? With the Duke of like, hey, I I'm interested in your job. But really, I just want Texas, ante up and get moving. So. They landed on ores Iran in a way that I think was never totally satisfying, which again lead to this bigger picture of of a what is at ores Ron future there. Now again, they should have a really good team. He could be there for ten years and be super successful in eventually catch Sabin. But I being things move so quickly in the SEC. You could also see like a one bad year. And all of a sudden, there's another uprising at LSU. And here's the new boss who has a history of making really splashy hires. Now, I I imagine the higher. He would really like to make his JIMBO Fisher. Wow. Jimbo, certainly has some connection, sailors you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, I mean that was the guy that they wanted to hire LSU before Scott would would would would. Boop when Joel Leyva was there, JIMBO has always been the guy. Now, I don't think jimbo's leaving ten year seventy five million dollars contract. But that dynamic makes it interesting as well that whole LSU taxes AM dynamic is fascinating on a lot of levels. I say this tongue in cheek, but I'm sure someone will misinterpret, you know, the the guy that would would has already circled to bring back till issue to bring back home is Nick Sabin, of course, because right Nick was there when he was. Absolutely. Now, the two the two relatively close friends to I mean, it's just a baffling day in you live in the in the world of the Associated Press. And the the ink is not even dry on the breaking news at the Aleve has officially been removed. And we already had the story that Woodward has replaced him. I like those kind of days, don't you? I do. I mean it especially when it's what it they roll seventeenth or so and usually this is a bit of a quiet time. So I know for you at this was probably a great day because you didn't have to recycle like, you know, way too early college football. And and you know, and who's going to be the best quarterback in the SEC west story. Hey before you go you wrote about this. And we this was the main impetus behind talking to you about has the NCAA overdone the graduate transfer. Right. I mean, what they're looking at is a is a in they'll vote on a possible proposal or proposal this week that could amend the some rules that have to deal with graduate transfers the crux of it is if the amendment were to pass a school a team would be on the hook for two years of scholarship, if they take a graduate transfer even if the kid the player is gone in one year. So I think it's a meant to we're going to cool the market here. But we're not going to take away from the kids side. We'll just put the onus on the coaches and the and the teens because you you would think that while the Jalen hurts is the world. I'm sure a lot of schools will say listen, I'll burn that extra year scholarship. No big deal. But for a lot of other players who are not necessarily Jalen hurts type talent. I would think that you'll have coaches and and programs that will be a little more cautious about diving into the grad transfer market. Now, I don't know if this thing is going to pass the big twelve is not. Not necessarily on board. It sounds like the MAC is. But I think what's going to happen. Here is the smaller leagues the any and this is effective basketball too. So the mid majors in basketball at CS is involved in this too. I think the ones that look at this grad transfer situation and think of it as our teams are being used as farm teams were the power five they may vote for it and that might be enough to get through. But I think as you go up the chain and the conferences, you know, to the AFC and the power five there's not as much support for it. So I don't think there's a slam dunk on Friday, but it would really reconfigure the grad transfer market. If it were to pass, great stuff Ralph middle of April should be a quiet time anything, but great to have you on thankful. Rafa Russo from the AP on the busy Wednesday two more days this week. Thank you for listening to the. Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The pride passion and patron tree of college football lives. Here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Welcome to the program. What a busy day it has already been for the last two days. We've been reacting to the decision by Joel Lieber, the athletic director dollar shoot to reinstate. We'll wait will now. He may be gone. According to number reports. But first reported by our first guest this evening. Stephanie regal Leyva is heading toward the door. This comes in the aftermath of a meeting last night between the board of supervisors we don't exactly know what happened. But. Remember Joa liba showed up in LSU. After escaping Duke after the Duke lacrosse scandal. And he has been the steward over a number of decisions, including firing less miles than deciding to reverse that and up with Joe ended up with that ores, Ron, and of course, hiring will Wade from VCU Stephanie regal who broke the story down in Baton Rouge earlier today in the business reports definitely great to have you back on the show. We were all sitting around having a nice quiet day when your story appeared, and you sent pretty much the entire college sports world into overdrive. Thanks for being here. Let's begin with though, what you learned in. Maybe what has happened since then good afternoon afternoon. Thanks. It's nice to be here. We were able to confirm, and and this talk had been had been swirling about certainly yesterday in before that Joe Alito will step down. And I'm not sure if they're going to couch it as. A retirement or resignation? But but basically he has he has been forced out. And you know, I think there was growing pressure both inside and outside of the university community. We saw the outside pressure. You would see the posts on social media in the irate fandom and also the boosters that were displeased with many of his decisions rightly or wrongly going back several years. But from what I was told today that there was pressure. A lot of pressure inside the university to and finally just got to the point where they decided he takes time for him to go. Stephanie this all comes continually in the aftermath of this five six week long. Will wade. Conundrum which fans did not like anything. Joel Leyva did even after reinstating him was that or is this the tipping point? Make in the breaking point. It was certainly one of several factors. It is so ironic that after weight is reinstated. As you say Aleve is the one that's going. There was this big hushed board meeting yesterday. And I sat there for two hours while they were in executive session, and it was extensively called talk about pending litigation. And I know they discussed the Wade matter there, I was able to confirm after but the decision relative to alita was made prior to that meeting yesterday and all the pieces were already in place from what I understand the university is finalizing statement that it's been a make either sometime later today or tomorrow, but I think before the end of this week for sure who surely taking their time, which is fine with me my question to you. And I don't know of anyone really has the foggiest idea the answer. But what if anything does this mean to will Wade who has been reinstated? But to too many still seems to be twisting slowly in the early spring wind. And I wish I could apply on that. But I really can't. And that's not my area of expertise. Anyway, would be more interesting to see who takes Joel livas placed at LSU already. There's there's buzz out there about that. All I've been told fishery is that it's very, you know, well known much loved high, you know, highly respected figure in the college athletic world. The Dallas Morning News is reported. Alrighty, that you know, Scott Woodward is is the man that many beliefs that will be, but he has not told his people at Texas ain't him yet. And no-one at LSU has said that get just routes for people understand Scott Woodward, who by all accounts is one of the best athletic directors in the country. We just talked to him a week ago on this program will some of you outside of that Rouge or college station, maybe asking why Scott Woodward will Scott grew up in Baton Rouge. Went to LSU has worked at LSU. He worked here under Mark emirate and went with Mark Emmers to Washington, Mark. And of course, now, the president of the NC double A, Stephanie, I realized so much of this is unknown at this point. But this board of supervisors would it have been there. Call to make or would it or was it king Alexander the president who subsequently made the call. How do you think it went down? Well, mccreavy the board of supervisors can't fire killer leaper, so technically it wouldn't be there. Call to make by the letter of the law, but whether they pressured king Alexander to make that decision whether there were higher up political forces involved, which some have have said like in, you know, at the state highest levels of state government, technically, no, the board did not force him out. But did the board apply pressure and did others? In state government apply pressure. I think it got to the point where the writing was on the wall and everybody could see it. If that makes sense your stuff in the mean, we're talking about that Rouge here. Nothing nothing makes sense. But you, but you've done a great job of trying to make sense out of it all, and that's why we were so eager to have you on Stephanie. Thank you, a quite a scoop by you and your publication, and we always enjoyed chatting hope you'll come back. Thank you so much have a good afternoon, Stephania RIA. We've talked to over her in the past. And again today, she broke the story of a couple of hours ago that Joe alita is out nothing official yet from Baton Rouge. But then again, you probably wouldn't expect that. It is it is going to be a long day. And I'll tell you I rarely about seeing a report of someone's demise cheered on more than this one. I think we for those of you have watched the show in the past. Joe liba was not a very popular man in Baton Rouge. In fact, the Stanley Jacobs who was a former LSU board member gave a quote to Glenn Guilbeault disaster. Noon saying I tried to take him out years ago. But I swung and missed. And now it looks like the board in administration have finally got it. If the story is true, I tried fervently to take him out. Well, I joked with a friend of mine today that of of the greatest days in history would this one rank anywhere near Billy cannons. Punt return, and the LSU graduate said, yes, it would rank pretty high up there. Just to show you the unpopularity of Joel Eva. And certainly all of us all of those all of us who have been countered him throughout the years. Wish him. Well, we'll take a break. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We have a lot more to do on the show before we head to the break. We'll get to your calls a lot of guests. But this has been the big story in Tim Brando, who chip us off last night at nine thirty saying he heard a lever was on the verge of getting fired. But we didn't have a show. There wasn't much. We could do with it. Tim will join us in a little while as well. We have a lot to do on this Wednesday afternoon. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We're back Ford year reaction. This is obviously the story of the day. You know, I think the big story. What does it mean? The will. Wait. I don't think I mean did he get fired because he brought we'll wait back. Did he get fired because he he suspended? We'll wait in the first place. No one really knows. But, you know, the we'll wait situation, which was already tenuous gets even more. So after all this. Let's get some reaction. And Mike is down in Louisiana, Mike, you're first up. Mike you there? Mike, you're gonna have to listen to the phone when you're when you're on that when you're on the phone, I realize you're your TV's there. And we want you to watch it. But you do have to pay attention to the phone. It's it's a bit of a delay. Mike is another Mike and this one's in Texas. Hey, Mike, welcome to the program. Thanks. Glad. Able to get in. Thank you. Thank you very much. I kinda want your view on the house stone. Do you think the? Scott Woodward's ties to LSU are are the strong enough to get him back into the do LSU territory from am. Mike. I think the simple way to answer that is. I don't know when I first heard about Woodward this afternoon. I kinda thought there's no way. And now start you start thinking about it. And I don't know I don't know very many people who haven't been tempted to go back to where they're from. Or were they spent a long period of time. I know I have and others have as well. And I mean to me it would just seem to be an awkward time to leave a place that you are just building and making a powerful entity. But sometimes people are builders, and in creators, and now that he's hired to phenomenal coaches. Maybe he wants to go back and try it again. I I don't know. I mean, I know Scott fairly well, but this is not a situation I've ever discussed with him. Most people would be scared away by the politics of the situation down there. Scott wooden Scott knows how to play that game. Because he was once part of that game. Mike. Let me try you again. Hey, my go right ahead. Hi, Paul this Mike Kessler. I've been losing any dinner on. Yeah. We are. Thank you for the call against, sir. I was curious. What do you think? Dr Scott would've been hired backseat. Giving might eighty five. Graduated valid sue and I can tell you LSU cannot do better than Scott word. I'm I'm I'm fairly dry. Make sure statements, but they can't he's he's as good as an director as they're currently is in in the world. And if they could get him back, and I'm sure they'll maybe they'll try then I it really depends on who's making the call and this ounce like a board of trustees decision. The board of trustees hires the president he's supposed to make personnel decisions. But this is Louisiana or anything goes. So I'm sure they'll I'm sure he's aware of it. I don't think he Scott heard about it today for the first time. He's done a lot of positive things real he's for not listening. I if it's got word we're was sitting in Baton Rouge in two weeks is the athletic director. He would be the ultimate get. This there. Thank you very much, by the way, though, the money that Scott Woodward has spent getting coaches is also available to keep him there. So I think it would be difficult. But then again, I don't know. You never know what somebody how somebody feels about going home again. Most people want to Dan is in Louisiana. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Taking mccall. Thank you follow on. I don't know. I guess this is kind of a sham of this happening at LSU. You know? I don't really understand it. But you know. I believe. Loyalty, I'll believe Joe liba was loyal to the school and had integrity. You know? He may have made some missteps, but I think he he tried to do the right thing by by covering the school cover Nath medic department administration. Even you know, the players, whereas I think we'll wait royalty is like a, you know, a male line when he takes over the darn cried he eats eight Secaucus. And you know, I know you have OT I've been listening to you for quite a while and your bread all your own. I just like to know you tell well, I will say this in fairness to to Scott Woodward. You can find no fault with the way he handled the way I can't find any fault with the way he handled the way. Oh, wait situation. You not legal. I'm sorry. Yeah. Liba? I mean, I thought leva did all he could do. I mean, I I the only thing I would have done differently. I would have fired. We'll wait five weeks ago. I wouldn't waste of time. But I have a feeling that Joe alita did not have the power to do that. And you you live down there. And you probably understand it as well. Or better than I do. There are a lot of people that are in that kitchen at LSU. So he played at the only way he could. And when Aleve a was told that weight had a new attorney and was willing to meet then he did exactly what the letter of the contract said he reinstated him. Well, like, I said, I believe you know, he was flow. He, you know, sometimes these things take a little time. Sometimes we can't take a hill. And you know, you're right. And that's the one thing and you understand it, Dan. Thanks for the call. Is it? You know, we we blame we blame the figurehead. But. Sometimes they can't do. I mean, I've known a lot about directors who had ultimate power in many of whom that were mere Unix to had no power at all. They were just a shell of a man or woman for that matter. But you can't be you know, Jim is next in Louisiana. Hello, jim. Good afternoon to you. Yes, I'm I'm get or the day that they found that got Joa labor that he he's worth nine that happen to LSU. We should we couldn't have gotten a whole lot better. Only. Jim what are what did Mr. saying, Jim? What did Mr. leva do? So that was so bad. Well, he Dallas you down getting getting people that we got in football program. Okay. Answer my question. Greg is up next in Mississippi. Hello, greg. Hey, push. St. McCall, buddy. Thank you very much. Oh, yes. I wanted to just kind of my head towards your way, just Paul that. They've been some collared like to the was trying to maybe throw this thing out to maybe a with the Joe alita of maybe, you know, what's the culture, the or, you know, everybody's doing you know, everybody jumping off the ridge. You don't jump off Brian them? Right. But I just I just kind of been on outside looking in right here. And I always nobody brought this up. But oh, you know, why didn't Joe leave do something in October? He had all Bevan's right in front of you know, that's a good. That's always a question of wondered because. I mean he called in. We'll wait. And you must've asked him one question is is any of this true? And Wade said no that's not really what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to you're supposed to make sure investigate yourself conduct an internal investigation and find out if there's anything to it. And I also have a hard time believing that a leave oh had not heard of some of these allegations in the past against will. Wade. Exactly. I just like I said if we know it's never do wrong never road to do right of always been in my book there. But I mean, you just pay sustain head on October. You've got a great team great talent. You got let that assistant let them jail. Maybe they winning the deterrment. But we you turn a blind eye. Just let it just drag on this is what you get. Right. I think. Leyva had been there too long. I think he'd made too many enemies, and he was just trying to hang on. And he knew he knew how good the program was and how good the team could be. And he just let it go. And unfortunately, a lot of people down there did the same thing. Thank you for the call mad is in Tennessee, Matt go right ahead. Paul thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Thank you. It was about a week ago called and we were talking about the big contract. Rick Barnes have got. And now the just seeing the comments late last night about what he said as far as going to USA Legos. And you know, in my opinion, it's a lot a lot. Like, you said, I mean, that's like if you were with somebody, and they basically told you, you know, I would have went with this, you know, better looking more muscular guy, but you know, he didn't spoil me as much. So I think I'll just stay with you. Instead since you're the one that gives me more money, the I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna leave my wife for a wealthy woman. And and then she at the last minute. She said, listen, I'm not gonna pay for your divorce. So I'm gonna go I'm gonna go back home and say, you know, what I think I'm gonna stick around a couple more years because I mean, I the thing that gets me the most I mean, we've all had thoughts like that. He's one of the first people in public life. That's ever told the truth here, which I do admire, but I don't know if it was really too smart to say. I mean, just some stuff's better less said, Paul, you know, you lock it. If a woman said, hey, do I look fat. Exactly, you know, E if you thought she did you still you don't say that I've had that happen. I mean, I'll go ahead. And you know, how many times is it's happened to me my wife, would you like this dress, I go. Oh, yeah. It's great. I'm going are you out of your mind? But I'm not about to say that at seven fifteen in the morning. Letter glitter. I mean, she's smart letter dress. However, she wants to now, by the way, she'll tell me if I look stupid, but that's that's a different story. And also what I thought about Paul was how it of route Barnes. Locked Phillip Fulmer got up there. His press conference have been like. Yeah. You know, we're happy to have Rick Barnes. You know? He's a good coach. We'd rather have coach Williams for coach cow. But yeah, we'll settle for Rick. You know, basically the same thing. And I don't care what anybody says. Yeah. Okay. He was brutally honest. I still don't make it. Okay. Man. He's the three house paid coaching America. Now who doesn't deserve that kind of money. Well, you don't he's not Nick saving, and you don't get a pass for saying crazy things like that. This will go away, and it won't ever be an issue again until he has a bad season. And then it will be an issue. I mean, I'm still and I people have said, well, Phillip Fulmer said everything's okay. Well, I don't know if everything's okay or not. And it really doesn't matter now because he is staying, but to me it was I it's it's become he he's he's made. He's made a lot of money. But it's still rather awkward situation. Well, I can tell you this Paul the fan base ain't going to be as forgiving as what they would have been before the big contract and itself, but actually. It's amazing to me how a large amount of money because I mean, when we listen, we're we're we all are are looking at that money going are, are you kidding? I mean 'cause four point seven million dollars is unrealistic to virtually all of those last year. Well, yeah, I mean all of us to outside of a couple of bankers watching maybe or plaintiff attorneys. That's a lot of money. We'll take a break. More to come eight five five two four to seventy five is the number south Walter will talk about who's going to the college football playoff. And then in the next hour Kimmy be who told us last night. What was going down in Baton Rouge? He will join us as well. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We're back. Glad you're with us. And JC is in Texas as we begin the second half of the first hour. Hello JC. Hi, Liz, define bomb on the first time caller. Appreciate you taking my call. Thank you. I'm an LSU fan living in Texas long long horn country. But I think today's a great day for LSU and its fans, you know, I wish Joe Aleve and his family. Well, but unfortunately, there's just been so many situations that have been bungled from the Florida hurricane situation where I think we we played in Gainesville now for seven or eight years in a row back that he was about he was three years too late and firing less miles. And then he I in my opinion messed up the hiring of JIMBO Fisher and Tom Herman. And then there's, you know, don't even get me started on the decline of the game day variance that LSU football games in the fall. So in my opinion, great day, and I would love to see us just cut through all the crap. And and triple whatever an thing got woodwork and just bringing the heck homed issue. That's what every agent loves to hear. Thank you for the call. Let's get to our next guest Seth Walter from ESPN and try to figure out what's happening here scout Sheth, always great to have. You haven't talked to you in a couple of weeks, and it is always cool to touch base. So who has the best chance to reach the college football playoff. I'm going to hold my breath as we weights and listen to you because I know you're going to give us four teams. We haven't thought of right? Well, I can't surprise you too much Paul. I mean who else would it be but Clemson and Alabama at the top. But I do think it is actually notable. When you look at those two teams because we have Clemson at Eighty-three percent chance to make the playoff which is for an objective model like this outrageously high. I mean, I think when we look at this. I'm not sure if we are sitting here talking over the next ten years in the preseason, we're going to have a team as high in the preseason and make the playoffs. We do. Clemson right now. It's just that up to perfectly. We've got a. Pending national champion who everyone agrees. I think that is going to be great again is bringing back their most important player in Trevor Lawrence and the schedule is so soft. We are talking about one of the easiest schedules. Among power five teams. They they're to touchdown favorites over every single opponent that they have on their schedule. Their toughest game is at South Carolina. Their last game of the regular season for context. Alabama also plays at South Carolina. It's their fifth. Toughest game. The ridiculous Alabama's not far behind. But we're so used to hearing the same things you just got through saying about Alabama. Yeah. There's no question there a major title contender. Seventy one percent. We have for them to the the real difference. Here comes down to the competition. The SEC we've talked about before Paul how favorably FBI views the SEC. And so you're talking about a number of challengers. I think there's a good chance that the SEC is able to put two teams back in the playoff. We actually put that a better than a fifty fifty proposition. And so that's good for Alabama. But the reality is they're going to have to play LSU granted in Tuscaloosa. But that's still a challenge game. No matter what you're going to have a challenging game in the SEC championship game. So there are opportunities for Alabama to lose even as an elite team as it is still very likely that the tighter end of in the in the final four. Okay. You I double check my I saw you have Michigan in the top four. Yeah. That's the. The big surprise. That's where we're really out on a limb. I think the big ten is really interesting. Look, here's what's going on with Michigan F B I is incredibly down on Ohio State. And I know people feel like Justin fields, you know, the next great quarterback at Ohio State. But the reality is you're talking about a brand new head coach and a new quarterback. There's a lot of uncertainty. Then what you're talking about these elite teams, you don't want uncertainty and so- Michigan while it's you know, maybe not as I catching talk about Harbaugh shape. Patterson? It's still that there's a lot more certainty there and they're bringing back a lot of players. And so and on top of that sorry, Ohio State is coming to in Arbor this year. So Michigan just had is the team that can take advantage of that the rest of the big teams maybe down a little bit. And so they're in a pretty good position to finally get into playoff. Forty-one percent. Listen to me, this is a team that was in contention all last year until the implosion at the end. So we shouldn't be that surprised. Should we? No, I don't think. So. Yeah. Like, you said we've seen the they've come close. And I do think that this would be their best chance. I think there's a good possibility that Ohio State won't be able to mount the kind of challenge that it did for Michigan in the past. You alluded to Georgia know, their schedule is is more difficult. But the because they have Notre Dame. They have AM both games at home, though. They do go to Auburn. I'm remembering the Georgia schedule off the top of my head. But that that probability is still pretty high still very high because we think that the third best team in the country. Right. So even though there may be behind Michigan. I in terms of chance to meet the playoff ju just because it's scheduled. There's no question that when we talk about the things that we like about Alabama we like about Clemson. We like about Michigan talking about stability at quarterback and head coach Georgia has all of those things. It's obviously done a nice job in the recruiting department over the past couple of years. And so they'll that all goes into it. And so yeah, absolutely. I think that Georgia is in. Pretty good chance. It is a pretty good position to make the playoff again, especially because the SEC could get two teams. So once we get past these four chef who is nipping at the heels next. I think the interesting team here is another SEC team in LSU. Well, and I think that people don't think about them really as being a contender because you consider. Well, they gotta go to Tuscaloosa, they're in the same division as Alabama. So how's that possibly going to work? Well, there's two things to remember one don't round down their chance to beat Alabama two zero look low. We put it about a one in four shot. But that's not nothing. It is possible. They could do it. It is possibly could win the division. But we've also seen teams from that very same division reached the playoff even if they only go eleven in one, and I think that's possible for LSU. Look is a really good team. If their defense is going to lead the way, but I think Joe borough is overlooked in terms of his play last year. He. Finished fourteenth in total QBR. I mean, there are guys that are were lower on that list that I've gotten a lot of hype this this offseason Sam etlinger was behind Joe borough. And so I think the LSU really could sneak up on some people this year shows how how how deep do you rank? I mean, your your group how far down do they go? Well, we go all all one thirty. But you know, there's not that many teams that actually have a chance to win the national championship. I mean, I think we had it at nine teams of at least a one percent shot to win national championship. And and so I think you there's a lot of longshots he'll teams you have one percent to reach the playoffs. That's that's all possible. But yeah, I mean, we got one thirty if you need your no, I was just thinking of you know, someone. Outside of this conversation who might be worth putting two bucks down on. Oh, gosh. Yeah. I mean, I think that. Well. I think there are when we compare to Vegas. There are teams that we are longer on. And then the oddsmakers Michigan LSU and Clemson three teams. We've already talked about are are those teams in terms of like total longshots. I'm not sure I mean teams surprise me. We have UCLA at one point one percent chance to make the playoffs that would blow me away. But I suppose at a hundred to one anything could happen. Always fascinating. So Jim Harbaugh probably not happy about the pressure. But after all your five he deserves it. Great to have you on chess. We'll talk soon. Thanks, paul. So there you go LSU right outside, but Alabama. Thank you. Appreciate it guys in Georgia inside the top four. We'll take a break. Get your reaction with that. Joe alita still nothing official from Baton Rouge, but speculation rampant he is done. Just two days after reinstating we'll way lots of talk about we'll be right back to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. I can't believe it that Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until it got there. How long we get there? I'll learn until we get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with Geico. What's this button? Do what's this button? Do what's this button? Do what's this? Believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Welcome back a lot going on here. And let's hear some reaction to all of it from you, Scott is in Louisiana. Hello, scott. Oh, thank you so much for taking my call, Paul. This news kind of laying down. It was such a good news today. Glad we could please very pleased to say the least been waiting for years for this. So what does it mean? The Domino's have started to follow Paul. In my opinion. I think as long as a lever was there. It was going to be impossible to get this fan base United. Yeah. To me best news of the day on a gloomy day. The I don't know this. I agree with you. Thank you, Paul. Thank you. He was just, you know, first of all Joe level was not a person that that was easy to business with for anyone. Bruce is up next in Florida? Hello. Hello, bruce. Go right ahead. Are you doing? I'm all speakerphone trying to get you off of that. That's okay. Well, thank you. It's good to talk to you today. I got a couple of things I got a favor. I'd like to ask you listeners me and my family in July. We're going up to Cleveland, Ohio to take my son. I told you about Under Armour baseball factory to a clinic. He's been invited to one of only twenty five in the nation as a Cleveland Indians facility. What I'd like to know is is there any attract shows or anything in a wife can do. He's gonna be the camp, and we're just going to be at a hotel in Cleveland yesterday. And I don't know nothing about Cleveland. You know, I don't know. I know Cleveland has the rock and Roll Hall of fame. Oh, yeah. That that'd be interesting. John John excuse me, Danny and John anything else up in Cleveland. They got a late to caught on fire. Thank you. Rob you fish fishing around on. Yeah. I mean, you got the you got Lake Erie. There don't you really? Lake something. One half. The thing. The thing I want calling about really, truthfully. No. I do need information about Cleveland. If y'all can help me. But also, I'm curious about your opinion. I'll Florida right now. It seems to me you're higher. I'll take say then you are Florida. Well, just just marginally. I I I think I'll tell you what I'm going to be in Gainesville at the end of the week. So. Give me I'm having a hot. Well, let me know where I'll come down and see I will be there tomorrow. So wait you or feeding centered on University Avenue? I know exactly where it is. Well, I can break away from down there doing some interviews. So I will be well, I know I'm going to be at the stadium tomorrow afternoon early afternoon. So if you're if you're in that neighborhood, come by whatever I get done with my Emara will definitely here to say, okay? I'll be there at least a first half of the afternoon, but we're not get back tomorrow night. I'll have a much better idea. What what the Gators look like how about that dot? That's good. I I really feel like they are dark horses year. I don't think they're going to be a little winning national championship yet. But I do Dan Mullen because he's done it before that's his goal, and he is pushing and he is working with that team. And he has in their mindset to to to achieve that again. We'll bruce. Thank you. Good luck with the MRI tomorrow. And we'll talk hopefully, Friday how about David in Tuscaloosa. Hello, david. I have been trying to get into this sport. Hi, I'm really glad you made it. Yes. Becky itself. Back in nineteen seventies men with better. What? I got dispatched to coach Vance home. And when a jot their Misbah, enter Hugh, say up and. As well. That's nice to meet you miss back. She said, no it's merry Harmon and said, okay, thank you this. If she said berry may harming and she Ted me that coaches office, and he had a designer phone obscure you remember back to it had also top of about ten fifteen. Oh, yeah. I do remember that. And chief it you're the seventh man from the company come out here depends here, and she said Paul is upset and he'll be home for lunch. And this was about ten to twenty. So I listen to it and it had steady cone like trying bacon. A few things check and found out. It was a loose screws inside the phone. That's all the head do start. You can be picked up and the cord mood made that scratchy. So I was putting my team when he came home. And you know, these Santana said the coaches yet your phone fix, and I can tell you what he says So he basically says it's about it's about time. Right. Yes. And so he is office and he paid back in the kitchen, and he said did you did? And explain to as he said at six people couldn't find that. And I said. I don't understand it. But it's fixed and they went back office, and you have a play for work. They believe in mayor Harmon to that you're going to say for lunch, ma'am, I shape, but I can't he's over here. She can. So I ended up having lunch with them. And when he got through e even on that just an office, I wouldn't put Mahfouz up and come back in and the made at sit out a case of coca Cola's in the garage and a whole box of potato chip home. I good nece and not there again told me I couldn't take that into having enough having to do it. Hammond Bill kitchen, but I did and keep on their novel. Uncle on the table to sit Paul's. He's gave it to you and us it's been okay. Certainly appreciate she said. The don't till you get down the road. And I said sure we'll Elway talent down late about a mile. They lived in India kneels at that time and open enough, and it was fourteen that's Alabama LSU game. Oh my goodness. And that they Lexus thirty five yards. And from that moment about every two weeks get dispatched to where to have lunch in and that went over the whole season. And there was always tickets. And I and I went to every game that he'll play back to you. And I even went to Notre Dame Rosanne they were played there. It was four couples. I was travel in the motorhome. And if I've already had tickets going, I've just been them to keep them. And it would always say you give them to somebody or you use. And he was just sent a joy that he won't be. But he was so says it to video round. That's my story that David. That's an amazing story. I wish I had known you when I was a newspaper columnist. I would have been a front page piece right there. Hey, thank you very much. Thanks for sharing it great to hear about those good old days, and we are up against a break, Tim Brando in the next hour. The the news about Joe alita. Unofficial, but everyone speculating that he has done as athletic director. We'll be right back.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The pride passion and pageantry of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast do as we reach you on the fifteenth of April middle of the month tax day. Hope all his well wherever you are extrordinary twenty four hours from Tiger Woods yesterday to tragedy today. We'll get to all of that. As we continue. What you're looking right now at a shot. Of one of the most iconic symbols of religion and history in the world, the Notre Dame cathedral in Paris a burning right now. And there's virtually nothing that can be done as I know all of you have been following that across the day. But we'll also watch it as. Pay to start with the subject abject to tragedy. But we will it's been an exciting weekend in until today with so many. Amazing stories from tiger to Edey games across the board. We begin with some headlines right now. And John Michie. I think that's how to pronounce it can't tell you. He's a house hold word. But he was the star of the day game. Five or sections one hundred thirty three yards Nick Sabin responding in Tuscaloosa. I'm only saying this high because you all have a tendency to make somebody a star. And when you do that, you create a problem for us as coaches, do you understand that? So can we just make sure we're just like it is what it is? And let's don't go down that road after one sprang game. That makes sense to anybody. Besides me. I mean, you got four coaches in the room. Now, you can talk to them about it. I mean have a coaching meeting with them. And they'll tell you what it is how it is. I don't even know what he was talking about. But I did like the sport coat and the the bright tie Nick Sabin health issues. We'll talk about that in just a moment. Speaking of health issues. He seems like he's come. Okay, come two years ago. It was done today. He's a masters champion and the talk of the sports world and the world for that matter tiger yesterday at Augusta burning up the backside. And certainly. Winning his fifteenth major championship. His fifth. Green jacket and just as you are sitting down to watch game of thrones. This came down. LSU reinstated its basketball coach will Wade. Will Wade said and I quote, I regret to circumstances that presented me for meeting with the university sooner. I wish I could have addressed these issues when the university I requested a meeting, and I'm grateful. They gave me the opportunity to do. So last week. I completely understand that without my denying or explaining the media reports accusing me of wrongdoing LSU was left with no choice. But to suspend me until I was willing and able to meet with them any other course of action would have put this program in the university at risk Joe Aleve of the director, the university regrets that coach way did not choose to fulfil his obligations to LSU when he was I asked to do. So. However, the seriousness of the allegations and coach Wade's prior refusal to refute them could not be ignored without exposing the university and the basketball program to great risk protecting LSU. And preserving our integrity must always be our first priority coach Wade's explanations and clarifications offered during the meeting absent actual evidence of misconduct. Satisfy his contractual obligation to LSU. I really don't even know where to start there. So I'm gonna sit tight while we gather more information, and maybe a couple of experts to try to figure out what's going on in Baton Rouge. But we've I'd you to join us. At eight five five two four to seven to eight five. If you have any idea there was some other spring games. Of course, the one that got the most attention was L LSU, but Bama to chunk of low not a great game. He was here the other day with us pretty upbeat. But the performance of the quarterbacks in mass was. Unusually average which said that the defense won the day. Maoz on mom after two freshman battled and some others. But it looks like it's going to be two freshman. Meanwhile guarantee. No look good much of that game Saturday night. Jeremy Pruitt, Mike. And the Volvo is trying to make a comeback. This is what it looks like today. Dan, Murphy, he'll talk about a former SEC quarterback Justin fields. How he performed it? The buckeyes spring game Glendale bow on the morass in the swamp otherwise known as LSU athletics. And Todd Blackledge was in Tuscaloosa will get his first hand report on what he saw Saturday, but your cost today five to four to seven to five look forward to talking to all of you. We begin with Dave and Baton Rouge. Good afternoon. Dave, hey, I told you two weeks ago. This was going to happen. You did. Crazy crazy crazy, but it makes my heart warm warm, especially the way Dickie v act in the way, Jay Bilas acted. And and everything, you know, it just goes to show you if you're not from south, Louisiana. You just don't understand. Well, let me Dave. I am not from south Louisiana, and I don't understand. So I'm gonna sit back here. And allow you to explain to all the naysayers what what went down over the weekend. And why LSU basketball is in good shape? Under will way. I'm gonna tell you what went down in Baton Rouge was Joe alita. And I do think net axe to fall in Baton Rouge is going to be on him. Why do you say it's worse than the Duke the Duke Pichu ration- as far as I'm concerned. Well, explain it to us because I listen, I I live this every day. I don't have a clue what happened. So you tell me. Well, I just think that the powers to be decided when they when he got in there, and he got with an attorney that would let him go in and talk and wasn't afraid of NCAA that they realized this was a bunch of malarkey. Now, the the the big question to me is going to be whether the judge ruled Friday, whether he's going to testify in the federal case or not. But from what I'm reading and hearing down here is that he's not even going to testify that the judge is going to kick it, and he's not even going to have to testify in the trial. And if that happens, I think we're back to business as usual. I know hold on. Let me ask you about businesses usual, if even if we'll way doesn't testify, and if the judge does whatever you say he is going to do how to you. How do you? Square. Those comments. That we've all read about. I don't have a clue at this point. All and I'm going to be brutally honest with you. I until there's more information that surfaces about the the Tate. I don't have a clear I'm asking how do you think this makes the LSU basketball program? Look right now, I think it makes LSU look like LSE's. Oh, always look, you know, and and and nobody really understands the politics of it t- t you or down here. But Paul you lived in New Orleans. This is business as usual for us. I'm not saying that it's right. I'm not saying that that it makes any sense. But it's is the way that it is. And I do believe that we're going to get new letting director out of his whole, listen, I I don't I don't care Joel libra has a job or not it really doesn't matter to me one bit. And based on what I hear a lot of people down there. Don't want him to have a job at that. But you have to separate Joa leva. From the will Wade situation whether Joe livas up for the Joan of arc award or he's a scoundrel. It's still has nothing to do with. Whether we'll Wade was on that tape trying to buy a player. I can't speak for the man, I can't speak for anything. But I heard them tape just like everybody else, but you've had him in the player go through investigations already and nothing came of it. Well, no, Dave, listen, the conversation with will Wade was fairly limiting. And you know, I thought it was interesting. The Joe liba used the word legal. He is we're obliging. He is he is obese his legal responsibility. I mean, first of all that doesn't tell us very much. And I don't know. So I mean, listen your head of me on the game. I'm I'm anxious and I'm eager to find out more. But thank you, very very much for the call. Do appreciate it. Let's continue at eight five five two four to seven to eight five in Eugene is up next in Georgia. You, gene? Oh, I'm enjoying your program. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you. I just wanted to call in because. We were happy to see tiger come back to his greatness yesterday. In Augusta and. The event that really prompted my call today was the fact that my are broken because I'm looking at the flames coming from Notre Dame cathedral in Paris. And we are all set to welcome. The Notre Dame football team to Athens in this come about season and try to repay the hospitality that Notre Dame shape. The Mouloud faithful on we went up to south bend Indiana season before they asked, and this is just a heartbreaking event vicious all hope that. Yeah. I agree with you. Then the the noted I'm cathedrals one of the chili. Great symbols of of of the past and in this country. I don't know how to describe it. Because I think it was built. I mean a thousand years ago, and I it's just. There's there's no explanation for it. I guess there's no there's this. There's really no word. There are no words to to to to describe it. And I know that's not exactly how we do it here, by the way, it was it was built in eleven sixty three just to put some context to the tragedy that we're all watching and witnessing right now. We're up against a break more to come. Appreciate you. Joining us today. Five to four two seven two eight five we are back with more wouldn't tracking the domestic money. You come to find them hiding under wardrobes next to love songs to suddenly scarring off what's utterly fascinating about the dust bunny is that although they'll not actually sensual creatures when they the Kyko not only saves people money, but also has a ninety seven percents customer satisfaction rating. It's obvious to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Oh, no. It's the dust bunnies. Only natural Prentice on the lung dust on his run along. But pride passion and pageantry of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast by back. Casey. Our resident golf expert in New Jersey is up next. What are you Casey? First condolences to the Notre Dame fedral their power s- getting to the good story yesterday turn the page. You know, I've been doing this for forty years of my life. And besides Tom Watson at the age of fifty nine in two thousand nine coming within one putt of winning the British Open age fifty nine the fact that this guy did what he did yesterday in one in ninety seven and came back twenty two years later after scandal. Four surgeries ranked eight hundred and twenty one in the world only three and a half years ago. Had a hard time picking up his kids two and a half years ago. Couldn't get out of a car from what's reported two and a half years ago comes back last year after the chipping yips. And became the best Chipper on a tour last year by the stats one to torch hippy chick. Almost won the British Open. And he goes out there yesterday, the age of forty two and beats the field of which most of them are fifteen twenty years younger than him in their prime. And let's just say tighter is just past his prime obviously with injuries. So the reality is what we saw yesterday in golf is unprecedented. It's great for the sport. He draws is to the TV for sure. And I know you're a golfer. I know John Hayes golfer. I'm sure you guys thought it was one of the most improbable winds we've ever seen watching golf beside nineteen eighty six of course. And there's a few others in their Ryder Cup. You're coming back above. But let's face it. What you saw yesterday. And and I think Nick Faldo, you know, who's not a big tiger guy. Even admitted it the greatest message he's ever seen. So from a golf professional standpoint what we saw yesterday, surely amazing the fact that he, you know, on twelve after watching Molinari make a mistake which Molinari never does kept hits in the water. He hits it thirty feet and Serna. Green two-putts thirty thirteen thirty fifteen and we all know what he did at sixteen with the eight iron tube out two and a half feet. And like I said three years ago. He's on the couch watching the Gulf watching Jordan Spieth win and areas yesterday in the red shirt, the intimidation factor was there. There's no question about it. You look at Molinari be mixed turn with the lead. And he proceeds would make double at KC. Yeah. And I realize I mean, this isn't some, you know, bum off the street playing Augusta for the first time I've been there many times, but but anyone's ever played in that tournament Molinari had how do you even attempt what he did with that pin where it is? And I I heard what he said. But you knew the wind was a factor. Why why? And he said I just needed another yard knows in the bunker will come on. You don't take that chance with the to show? There's only one way to below the tournament. And I it's not long, and it's not left. It's exactly where he hit it. Yeah. Knowing there say that is. Is I think he completely miss hit the golf shot because the ball never cleared the yellow line now. I'm even more amazed by yeah. I mean, it had one forty one to cover that that covered at bunker online with the flag and those guys get one forty one Paul and that's the difference that discipline. They get one forty one cat go. He wants to go right at it mistake Molinari. You know, I don't know if he went right out. And I think he had a poor shot reminiscent to speak three years ago when he to win the water. It's a pressure situation. Listen, I don't wanna like it can happen. But I know one thing up studied nNcholas, and I've studied tiger in the one thing they always think about I mean, they go through their motion. But they also in the in the one crevice or their their brain. They they say let me take away this possibility. Yup. Well, that's the experience. No question about it. You know, you don't win eighteen majors for Jack and fifteen for him shooting flags in majors. They just don't do it. So that's the difference. Like, I said the intimidation factor. And Molinari had the honour there, which actually help woods, you know, voluntary hits that ball ten feet. It'd be interesting to see where I agree with that. That's a that's it was it was a disadvantage. But hey, thank you very much. Casey, great report. Great analysis. The other big story will Wade Dale and Baton Rouge, man. I wish we would wish this was Dale Brown at a no, it's not they'll isn't bad rather next. You know, Paul. We are great. Thank you. Doing Dallas is right now and watching and not tell you what friend just really disappointed in LSU. I mean, I live right down the road from there. And just never LSE's always had integrity and character two years. And we'll Wade I mean. Yeah. To me, I know the facts aren't in. But they still let him go. He should have showed up. I I really don't care. Mr Paul, what lawyers say, let's is integrity and character. She, you know, really, I it seems like a went out and hired a lawyer who who found some language in this contract that allowed him to keep his job from a legally standpoint. But I it's hard to. I can't find anything that you've said that I don't agree with. I mean, I'm I'm. If people can celebrate all the one and there for you if you want to but the university looks terrible today. Yeah. It's it's a it's a cloud, and it's always going to be there. I'll promise you, and I don't do this. But I'm gonna tell you Mr Paul that if they had it losing season he would have been done gone. And that right there were compromising. What does I tell my son my two year old and my twenty euros? And what does that what does that tell the young people? I don't know. The one thing we don't know. And I'm I'm really feel badly for what you're going through. I we don't know all the facts. But if if the facts were so wrong, then why did it take until Friday for there to be a meeting? Yeah. I just they're just compromising. Yeah. Mr Paul, and I we're here or disappointed. You know, you might hear some pro will a because a win especially students. They sometimes you win. But other people I'm fifty five that grew up LSU, and and just very, and and that's all got his say on receipts you and I don't watch much TV at all. Well, it's an audio. And a great job you stay in touch. We're thinking of you. And let's talk soon. Yeah. Yes, sir. Thank you from great. Good stuff. We'll take a break more on. We'll wait. That is certainly a. A perplexing development. But then against LSU and. Joel levers your athletic director. You don't really know what you're going to get. But it won't be predictable. We'll take a short break. Eight five to four to seven to eight five. A lot of guests coming up shortly. But pride passion and Patrie of college. Football leaves Keer. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Back to Ronnie in New Orleans. Ronnie go right ahead. Oh called last week. And I told you with we'll wait he was an FBI informant. They finally came to make that public or not public, but voyeurs explained LSU and he's got his job back. Well, you explained let's say let's say everything you've said is correct. You still haven't explained to us. How will Wade became an FBI informant? When he got in trouble with the visa USA, some kind of arrangement with them that oh this them. And now, I I must have missed that story. What happened VCU to get? We'll wait and trouble. I mean, I've heard rumors. I haven't heard anything substantive. Well, I don't know either. I mean, this is what you know, the source told me, but you gotta admit every everything fits with that storyline. I mean, it's partly because the leave is selling after this job. And and now it's come to fruition that he's got a job that I mean, what what would get him his job back other than something that doesn't meet the I about this. Well, I know when you when you go along with me for a second here. So let's say on we'll wage attorney. I tell I tell leave and king Alexander, listen. Here's what happened. My guy will Wade was an FBI informant and king Alexander asked me why did he become an FBI informant? I said well got in trouble. He's he got in trouble doing what? So right, right. Then you have these red flares going off? So he got in trouble doing something to fairy us at the. A hugh. That's certainly positive today. Disqualify you from from remaining as a head coach. But the, but the reason. We don't know the fact that I mean, I I don't know the facts of what you're telling me, but he's got his job at. So why would they be? Let's toss second. He has his job back today. Does any is there anyone in L A that he's going to have his job long term? I think there's more to come out to this that that has been so to you this is obviously something going on other than we've been led to believe that does an excerpt of a tape that he is said to be offering a bribe to some player in his family, right that that didn't happen. And no one no one that. I I've ever heard of has the tape. It's the both to be a media from ESPN and other. I'll listen Yahoo. That this is a leisurely what was said on the space conversation. And no one's ever. I mean, have you heard that you heard have not of a wishing where where within a week of him? Supposedly. I mean, it's all coming down to whether he appears in New Yorker not at that trial. Correct. And now there's some question of whether he's going to testify o b because his testimony is now compromised by this situation. Maybe that's what that's what I've been told. And listen everything sent this story. I mean, there are a cab drivers in New Orleans who know more than I do about this right now. Because I was I was applying common sense. And common sense told me he wouldn't have his job much longer. But commonsense. You would certainly think not. I mean, he given giving those facts if the facts were true that he's heard saying this on a telephone conversation, right, obviously, obviously that that would jeopardize your job. But what are the things? That's interesting is the young man they were talking about Giovane smart. He's superficially Bennett for one game. Then all of a sudden he's back. So somebody had to know something because an investigation doesn't take one day. So obviously somebody knew something was amiss to let device marks come back and play in the team. What do you feel about that? Right now, you're you're you're you're the leader in the clubhouse rining because you told me something the other day, and as implausible as it sounded at least part of which he said has come to fruition. So I'm going to sit back, and listen and gather as much information as I can. And then go beat my head against the wall. Because that's how I feel about. This case Lee is up next in Seattle. Hello lee. Paul the I think the word that should be focused on until Aleve. A statement is integrity. You know, kind of. No, no matter what you go with that. I I have really hard time believing that he's just completely an because of an informant so integrity should never come out of his mouth and anybody ever ask. Why they're continuing problems in any sports, the college basketball or football because everybody gets away with what they're doing somehow or another. I mean, what prevents a player from Keating? They don't they don't punish him. They punish the tips that have nothing to do with. You know, once I wanna know about is I want to I'm a coke, Tim Brando from from last night where I will start believing these people down there, that's will way that's his attorney. That's Joe alita when they quit hiding behind statements. And they meet the media and take questions and don't run away because until then it's all a bunch of garbage. Oh, I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm going to stay it anytime soon or any of us. There's just such a cloak and dagger about all of the things that go on in college sports, you know, especially the all sports. But anyway, that was whereas thanks so much. Appreciate mad is in San Antonio. What do you got Matt contact by spring football game fall? But I wanted to talk about the thing of burning down Notre Dame. All it makes you really sad to see the P three form. And at this point. I it would behoove you to read up on on the the history of the Notre Dame cathedral. It took about two hundred two hundred some odd years to build it has been at the epicentre of European and world history since then so I would I would spend some time on that. Matt. I liked what I own springs Bafokeng phone. Okay. I like detached they take your saying in the secondary is got a really better this year, JIMBO Fisher last year, we pay mice Jekyll and Hyde. But I think this year that's going to be a strengh for us. Not a weakness the inaugurate. I I mentioned this again, I I really feel good. I you you may have been head of the parade again. But I feel good about what I saw on Friday night. Thank you for the call. Greg is in Alabama your next step. They Paul thanks for taking my call. Thank you the. A couple of weeks ago you had a older gentleman. Call you and tell you in his opinion, the real reason for them firing. We'll wait, and that was because of boosters who had undue influence, you know, somewhere to that in Auburn. And I think he's right. I don't think we'll wait was an informant. He's not smart enough to be one. And this is simply them wanting short term gain, regardless of the long term costs. Would you agree? I would totally agree. This was this one. I I will be surprised if we'll weights coaching on the sidelines next year. Yes, this this makes no sense on any logical level. So you have to think about it illogically. And even if they think well, he's going to we're going to find out more during the trial. So we can get rid of them. Then you could have gotten rid of them. Now, simply for not coming to talk. And you tell me the first how is will Wade going to recruit with this hanging over his head? He's not going to be able to. Yeah. I mean, I I mean realistically, are you going to be who are you going to beat when because at some point? We'll Wade is going to have to answer. He's going to have to answer questions at a young man's living room. Isn't he? He is. And he's not gonna have the answers, and he's not going to be willing to answer. I mean, if he says, well, everything's gonna be okay, and the father or the mother or the grandmother sitting there going well, coach, wait, let me ask you this. You wouldn't talk to your own bosses. Why am I supposed to believe anything? I mean, anything you tell me right now than it's going to be okay. Wh why did it take you forty five days to talk to your bosses? Exactly. Why was everything? Okay. In this interview. That's all it was why couldn't you send this, you know, month ago when you had the league, Greg. It's like they met a weight, and he finally found an attorney that understood his contract he met the threshold of the contract, which means I met with my bosses within a certain period of time. And Joe alita took the express lane by say, okay? Everything's good for now. Let's get to the next and perhaps knowing that there is another shoe to drop. I mean, this this all sounds like legal gymnastics to me. It is legal gymnastics. But Jolie was going to score is double zero on this because he is totally inept. He's hitched his self to the wrong wagon for the last time. And this is gonna really set back not only basketball, but at yellow shoe for a long time when this all pits the fan, and it's going to sooner than people realize great to hear from you. Greg were up against the break. More to come. We'll get some perspective from Glenn Gilboa, nobody better than him to break through the swamp and tell us what's really going on down there on the by you more of your phone calls after this. But pride passion and pageantry of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast hair is in New Orleans, Harry good afternoon to you. I wasn't gonna call today. But this will this coach way thing has been a little intrigued so to speak, but. The only person to spend the sense to me. But the whole thing came up as you, and you know, maybe if I see a couple of questions, maybe you can help me out. Have you ever heard of anybody at willingly went to the FBI and offer to testify or help them in any way? For for no reason at all. No. I mean, listen if you know anything, and I have friends who worked for the and you'd probably do as well. But no-one willingly helps the FBI especially on a wiretap unless there is some something in it for them, usually I mean, I I would say ninety eight percent of people who are wiretapped are doing it because they have no other choice. Exactly. And the last time a group of people came to the FBI and had no business even going through the FBI was when Jim garrison case daughter on garrison, you know, then then you had every vote and and psychopath in. Orleans going off testimony to the FBI to this the garrison. But this is not the garrison case. His. He was a former district attorney in New Orleans who big. I just think that that that there is some some some substance to to to to coach weight and what he's doing what he may have done. And and until I is perfectly clear. You know, bad review coach ways, I don't think we'll be coaching LSU in the beginning of next season. And I think you know, we ought to just wait and see. So you know, the facts are gonna come out. And I think we ought to take that approach as opposed to. It's one thing when people call and give their opinions as I'm doing now, but at the call up and try to sell you some story, and then when you get to the point of what is your story, and they don't have one. Then we go and beyond opinions in, you know, a just don't wanna hand anybody. Try to sell you some foolish. We have to. Wait. Don't you agree? Paul. Wait, totally totally Harry. Thank you very much. Dan is in Louisiana, and you are next out, Dan. Hey, Paul, Paul. I'm Harry didn't know if I was going to call in today, and I wouldn't go and talk about this. But you know, LSU Strutton with disaster again. And I mean, I grew up in ways, Anna pool and put the Tigers the saints thirty forty years of misery. And you know, as soon as I thought I was going to get a little reprieve. Here we go again Well, I listen to decision is up to Joe Aleve. How about explaining the decision, Mr. liba? Well, give us something other than legal mumbo jumbo MU Pol. You know, every time I try to make sense of it. It seems like they're returning to a Cajun just, you know, take the shotgun in the woods and see if the game or no coming gets you. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean. If Leyva had issued a statement saying, we'll waiters are basketball coach, we have investigated thoroughly. There's not one scintilla of evidence to support the claims we had a misunderstanding about his contract. But he is now our coach, and we'll be our coach for the next however, many years, and we're gonna add two more years on his contract. I didn't hear any of that last night. Did you know and? Unlike Harry, I mean, why she the bleeding? Why why this had done make any sense to me? And sometimes you can tell them the timing of something nine o'clock on a Sunday night. When the biggest story of of the entire year has been Tiger Woods trying to slip that one in. Like, no one would notice. Wow. Well, everybody in the weeds on notice it and everybody in the United States that lives in sports. Wow. Well, thank you very much. Okay. Thank you. Again. We have a lot to do in some of you may have just gotten in or flipped us on the story about we'll wait continues to perplex a lot of people. We have shared with you. The statements still trying to get some more information from LSU they're offering nothing more than the statements from last night. We'll Wade has been on this program numerous times, maybe he'll come on. And explain anyone wanna bet on that one. We will talk to Glenn Guilbeault a little bit later on. We'll also get into some of the spring games over the weekend, including Justin fields from Georgia now in Ohio State Buckeye, and what happened at Alabama the offense looked pretty bad. So that's where we are here. 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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The pride passion and patron tree of college. Football leaves Keer is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast and happy Thursday, America. How's it going? It has been an incredible week. This is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul finebaum Paul is on a summit. He will be back in this chair tomorrow. And yeah, did I mention it's been an incredible week. I mean, think of folks think about what has happened in this week on Monday, we celebrated Tiger Woods and winning. The Matt at Augusta and all the spring football that had happened in Tuesday. Rick Barnes, ruffled a few feathers talking about how he almost went to UCLA instead of the bout and then yesterday yesterday, in my opinion, and I'm going to talk about this and just a little bit yesterday was one I believe as a consumer one of the best days of the Paul finebaum show ever. When the guys came on the air. I was in South Carolina meeting. We'll must. Camp. And I wanted to get to Charlotte and time to watch the show I got there. And when the show started they knew one thing the crew new and Paul knew one thing. And that was the fact that it looked like Joe alita was out over the course of the next four hours the staff here, and of course, Paul work that story by the time. They went off the air at seven o'clock, they had evolved story and LSU had a new athletic record. And Scott Woodward. It was a virtuoso performance, and it was made official day, Scott. We'll leaves Texas A and M where he had built an incredible future dynasty at looked like with JIMBO Fisher and bust, William buzz Williams. And then he decided he's a Baton Rouge guy. Family lives in embattled rooch, he has a on the Ellen the quarter it has there. And so this was the statement that he released today returning home to the LSU family to lead the department of athletics is an incredibly humbling and exciting Woodward said. At the state university has been part of my life or more than five decades. Remember he worked there. Back in the early two thousands. And I know and I am brace the high expectations of tiger nation. We will win championships. And we will do it the right way representing LSU with pride and dignity. Every step of the way. I wanna thank president Alexander for the opportunity of a lifetime. And I cannot wait to get started. Go tigers. This is kgo talkable of it later. These are the highest paid S eighties in the SEC. You see the list there starting with Gregg burned down. The Ray Tanner. I did see one less where Scott Woodward was somewhere in the early in the low nine hundred range, but you can see what the what the price is right now. And there's going to there wasn't discussion coming out of Texas AM that you know, this guy probably should have been rewarded before. Now for what he did. I mean, not only JIMBO Fisher, not only buzz Williams four hundred and fifty million dollar upgrade to Cal feel. It was a shot to Texas A and M and later on in the show, we will have somebody, and we will talk about that issue. So where does LSU an LED where do they go from here, and what's going to happen to a Texas AM? It's going to be interesting LSU has got the guy they want. What's going to happen there? We're going to be talking to add and written burger Berg later in the show. All right. And here we are. And again, like I say Paul we'll be back in this chair tomorrow after after doing yeoman's work yesterday. I sent him a note last night and told him so he was very appreciative about that. But I wanna bring for a moment. I want to go to a mand Daniel Bramlett, and of course, producer Mark kubiak. Hey, you guys let me tell you one thing. I haven't watched every show in the last five years of of you guys. Doing the finebaum show. I wrote John Hayes a note to note to this effect for what this show is supposed to do. Show yesterday was an all time or if not the best is one of the best you guys have ever done. Wow. That's I pray is. Thank you. Tony with the show should be a place where you get your SEC news on everyday three seven so in stories like this. It's nice that I wasn't here. John was in there, and John just obviously John dang it all the credit, but they developed the story mostly me and mostly and you guys can develop it in take it through. And that's right with the show is an entertainment show. But we also have a journalistic. Journalism is and all of our DNA. So we do like to you know, anytime we get a story like that that we can follow an advance throughout the course of the show. It's really you're feeling. So glad you enjoyed it. And hope a lot of listeners, by the way. So this show needs to be better than yesterday. So that's that's on you for the rest. That's right. Well, he'll look here's the deal. Find bomb is an old newspaper reporter, and when stuff like this happens those newspaper jeans, they sort of kick in they really do. And you could see that all over the place that Paul was having a blast just chasing that story. So so the question now becomes what's going to happen at Texas AM what's going to happen to LSU? Let's take LSU. All right LSU. Scott Woodward comes into a situation there where again if you wanna call eight five five two four to seven to eight five eight five five to four to seven to eight five, and we'll be here for the next four hours want to get that in we love to have you call. But let's start with LSU LSU is going to be a fascinating thing to watch. Because not only is. Is it or is your on there? They're expecting big things from football. But what's going to happen to the will wait situation as he goes into that is will Wade going to be the coach a year from now. I have my doubts. I think Paul has his doubts too. But to walk into there. And I think the LSU people feel that would Scott Woodward. They're going to get a handle on that. Let's go to Texas. Am what's going to happen at Texas AM now again later in the show, we're going to have Olin Buchanan techs, eggs dot com. And I listened to a podcast that they did this morning. I tell you what the LSU people they are not happy. They're not happy in the least they they're upset because they're losing their athletic director. But they're also part of it is is it happened. All of a sudden, I mean yesterday by the time the Joel Eva thing broke before they got off the air of these guys got off the air yesterday. It was a pretty much a done deal. The key was getting Billy Lucci from Texas dot com, and the Texas M people are going, wait a minute. We got an athletic director who's done everything. We've asked him to do. He's gotten he's gotten football coach that we wanted. He got the basketball coach we wanted. We've got the best facilities in the country. And now all of a sudden out of the under the darkness of night. It seems like he's going to LSU. He's going back home. I believe guys. Again, we bring you guys back. I believe there was reverse engineering going on here. I believe the Scott Woodward made himself available and then when he made himself available, then they broke the news to Joe Aleve. Joe? This is the guy we want, and it ain't you as an alumni. And when you have an alumni who wants to be back at the university, regardless of how well he's done it Washington text saying that opportunity only comes up once in a while. So if that is the case, then go on Scott for taking advantage in looking at the scenario and making it work for him. I think it's like you say Tony a lot of times these stories are reversed the ending is decided than they figured out the plot points to get there. So I think you're probably right. Well, and in a story, let's let's add one. More twists showing one more twist what if two years from now three years from now, Scott Woodward needs a new football coach what's going to happen. Then I promise you guys before I went to bed last night. I got two phone calls from two different friends who follow this stuff closely. And they said Texas AM they got to be nervous. They got to be nervous about losing, JIMBO Fisher. I think there's there's a the seventy five million really good reasons why JIMBO Fisher stays where he is. But again, if you're if you're Texas saying, you got to say is there another is there another shoe to be dropped that we don't know about. And I think we're gonna talk about this story all day long. Again, if you wanna give us a call eight five five two four to seven to eight five here's the lineup for today that we're going to have. And again, they've done a great job. Putting the list together Gus malzahn? I went to see him a couple of weeks ago and just talking about all the issues at Auburn incredible schedule whether they're going to do at quarterback, we'll have him Adam written. Berg pinned a good piece. This morning really looking at the whole thing from both perspectives Olin Buchanan from tex- dot com now he and Billy Lucci cover, Texas. Am better. And finally at the end of the day. We're going to limit lighthearted. My man, Mark slave off the SPN and ESPN dot com. 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We welcome everybody back, and we are here again to take your calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five one. Oh, we start out. Well, let's start out in the great state of Texas met in San Antonio good afternoon. Matt how are you? Mattie, willis. Matt is not with us. Matt call us back. We'll try let's go to run run run your own with Tony Barnhart Goni. Yes, sir. Two and two always equal four. You know, I barely barely got through freshman algebra, Georgia. But I think you're right on that run. And when you said, reverse engineering. I call Paul show. Monday. I believe after. The will wait announcement was made that he was going to be exonerated and come in the back. And the reason I called I didn't talk because I was on hold for so long, but I had a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. That they were going to come after Scott Woodward, right? Call Paul yesterday in the first hour. And broke to him some news about what Luke was saying Billy Lucci. Yup. And and how they were going after Scott Woodward. And you know, it's a done deal. It's all over with that ship is sailed. I wish him the best because he did a wonderful job for us. And I completely understand him wanting to go back. Well, it really go Rondo she's it's really about a chance. It's really about a chance to go home. And it's it's obviously he's gonna make a good salary. That's that's not the issue. The issue was the chant was a chance for him to come home. And he knew this might be the only time that job would be open in the future. Because it looked like Joel liba was out. No matter what it would go ahead. Joe alita was set up is what it looked like to me. And once they have their man, they could go ahead and do what they wanted to do. They can you know, that's chess. That's now. No, right. You're you're I totally agree with what you're doing. It's like I said when I said, reverse engineering, that's the way it happened. We're we're we're not gonna let Joe Aleve. Go until we've got our guy and tell you nobody has. Firmed that to me. But it that's the only thing that makes sense in the timing of it makes sense. So here's here's the question. What went to makes four to two makes Iran. Let me tell you act crazy. This was yesterday. I know somebody who worked within two hundred foot of Scott's office AM. And before I call this show texted him too bad. Scott's gone. And this person said water you talking about. At five forty nine. They called me and said how far do you live from? That's any of them. And I said one hundred miles, and they said how could you know, when I didn't. That's how hush hush. All this was kept. No it was. It was totally yesterday. Iran was one of the great days. Now that only the show it was just it was just a fascinating process to watch it really unfold. And again by the time these guys got off the air at seven o'clock eastern time yesterday, the whole thing had played out in front of it's credible. Ryan, I do appreciate it covers. Here's my question. No guy. Kudos to Scott kudos to LSU. Where do we as aggies? Go next. Yep. And that's that's what we do. We hire next. You have a suggestion. I don't know. But I know because I got to study it I will say this. There are more good athletic directors out there than ever before. They're great ones. But you gotta bring one in who understands the SEC who understands the competitive nature of this league. Who understands how difficult it is weekend. And we I mean what what a great situation for a new AD Ron think about it. You come in with all the facilities you need. You don't have to go on a building spree. You've got your football coach locked in. You've got your basketball coach locked in. You've got the most some of the most incredible fans in the world who support the program. It's not like you've got to come in and rebuild anything. It's all here. There will be a line out the door of. People who want this job. So, but it's incumbent on us to get it right there. Ain't there ain't no doubt about that? Ron I appreciate it. I'm going to scoot now and get to another call. Thank you. All right. Let's go to Harry in New Orleans, Harry. Hey, tony. How you today? I'm doing great. What's what's what's the mood in New Orleans? What's that? What's the mood in New Orleans? Well, I'm not in LSU fan. But I have a lot of friends who all and one question. Nobody made thought of when this thing hol started circulating about coach weight. And then mister Leila is that people are starting to wonder before the Texas A and M news came out yesterday. But the athlete director would coach Kennedy have a chance to get the LSU job? So I I don't know how to take that. But do you think because coach Kennedy left while wish gentlemen, would was at tech San that? They'd be any chance of coach Kennedy getting LSU up to a place. Wait. I don't I don't know. Because I you know, it's a tough. It's a tough situation with Billy Kennedy. They will be again, a no shortage of that. But I don't I don't know how you would know more about Billy Kennedy than I would like him like him a lot. I'm just not sure what the way that. It ended a Texas of is that is that going to be the direction the Scott would go may because of a prior relationship. It's a fair question. I just don't know the answer to it. It's it's quite a question. And I guess many people would think no there's no chance of him getting a job because on the I guess corker called let him go. But you know, we never know it may have been, you know, more than half like director, and we'll find out real soon. I guess on it. But I'm joining the show, and I look forward to spend the rest of the show with you here. I appreciate your call. Let's go to T N t in that tone. Rooch TNT in town route Tony Barnhart. How are you? Sir. I Joey your when you host the show. I think you do good job. And thank you, you you convey a affair figure. Okay. Reshape that. Yeah. The rhetorical question. At the beginning of the show was what does this mean fail issue? What is I'm gonna list of bunch of things going if you'll oblige me. And then if you want to discuss or want to cut me off after that go for TNT, unless you know, I've got about ninety seconds. So go for it. Okay. Well, I'll go quick it means that LSU serious about cleaning house hosted leva, I'll own it. You know, the Devakula's under a path like director. But it's clown class locking laughing stock stuff it was not illegal and his lack of backbone enabled the culprit and stay tuned on that one LSU's power ethic put their collected five down and simplest that enough. And one. Revisit my original statement. It's not done. There's more work to be done. We know about double standards at LSU and in our department in our athletic department, and in the conflict, and you don't have to tell them on that we didn't need another layer of double standards impose a phone is program by our incumbent previous athletic director. We were hitting ourselves on the thumb with with the hammer. Eight AM to survive. They've got the sad dot Woodard. A Woodward is an LSU, man. It's a lot like the eight would saying him lost their Brian the bar, and he proclaimed, mama call. That's all it is. It's our turn. Okay. Tony. It is LSU's turn to have some excitement. Basically, we got rid of an activated directly who probably didn't even life delicacy, but LSU paid him. Well, if day week, oh an. We chose an AU who loved LSU. All right. Tell you. I appreciate you insane. I got I got to scoot. We gotta get to our break. And this is Tony Barnhart sin. Paul finebaum Gus malzahn, the head coach at Auburn is next Tony arts in in. We'll be right back. But pride passion and patterns re of college football leaves Keer. He's the Paul finebaum show, our one podcast and with that. We welcome in our next guest who would love to have number twenty four back in the lineup at full speed, coach Gus malzahn coaches, Tony Barnhart, how're you doing? Hey, doing Drake down what it would be nice to have twenty four back like the days. Would it not? Yeah. There's no doubt. You know? He he was a special player. He's a special coach. I mean that's first time. I saw that piece and he's just had outstanding spring or players really embraced him and really looking forward to next season. Because let's let's go through spring out. I was I was with you a couple of weeks ago, and obviously any conversation you have about Auburn football starts at the quarterback position. Joey Gatewood Bonex both had good springs. Where did you leave with those guys? You don't name a star? You don't have to name a star at this time of year. But where did you leave with those guys after the spring where I think the spring game all four played well, and I thought that was incurring. So you know, anytime you got four guys you feel I can run the offense. That's great the challenges, narrowing it down. And we got great information during the spring matter of fact, we're in the process of meeting with our quarterbacks and talking that through and we will have some kind of order. We're not going to name a starter this spring it'll go into fall camp, but we will narrow down and we'll probably do that in the next couple. Days. You know, we were talking earlier about about the running back position booby Whitlow didn't quite get to a thousand yards. You'd had a thousand yard rushers at Auburn for nine straight years. I know that's a priority to be able to run the ball when you want to run the football. How how did that go? 'cause I knew that was that in the improvement of the offensive line was a big priority in spring. Yeah. You know, be Whitlow and Cam Martin. I mean, those two guys had great springs DJ Williams, the freshman also had a very good spring. But, you know, booby starting with him a guy that hadn't played a lot of running back until last year. He was kind of learning on the run and this spring. I mean, you can tell he's really stepped up more comfortable, of course, came. Martin's been our number two guy the last three years. So, you know, and then the offensive line like you were talking about we have all five starters back. They're all seniors. They were really the bright spot was far spring. Oh, so you know, when you're able to run the football in this league effectively opens everything else up key injuries at receiver last year. Played a big. Pardon in that. It looks like you're in terms of depth in terms of talent. You've got the guys back that you need. Yeah. We think so got enough stove back. And of course, you had a good spring game too. And we'll Hastings we'll be back along with anti sports, which is running track. So with the guys that we had go through spring with those guys, you know, we feel like we've got a good group of receivers. Well, I want to ask you about the defense, particularly the defensive defensive line. You know, everybody talks about you recruiting class in December. And all that, but some of your best recruiting it looks like came with getting those defensive guys to hang around. Yeah. It was definitely the best recruits. We got you know, Derrick Brown Morlin Davis, Nick cold decided to come back, and we feel like we're going to have one of the best defensive lines all college football. And you know, the thing about those three is really felt like they improved in the spring in their leadership their confidence their experience a really set the tone for really not just the defense. But the rest of the team you and I. About this. Last time, we visited a playcalling something that you've been very candid that you enjoy doing. It's been a big part of your career you've decided to resume calling the plays. And people have asked me says, well, why hadn't he always call the place. This is something that you really based on our commerce something you really enjoy. There's no doubt. I mean, that's who I am football coach at my core and real excited to get back out there and work with the offense put offense together, this spring was very refreshing, you know, in this business. This topic job you live and learn and two and a half years ago decided to step back and let the peop- call plays. But you know, I'm really excited. The bowl game was a lot of fun in this spring was and really looking forward to calm place in the fall. So when you when you when you say goodbye to your team, and you sort of let them go into the off season off season conditioning, and all those kind of things what was your message to them. Because this is this is an Auburn team. I have heard from a lot of different. People. You know, feel good about this position that position if if if the quarterback situation falls into place like Auburn hopes it does it could be a good year. Is that kind of the way you sit. Yeah, we had a team meeting the other night, you know, just talking about accomplishing our spring goals. And where we're at as a team, we feel very good about where rather team and really probably more from a leadership standpoint and experienced damn point. And and you to set it. I mean, it's going to be about, you know, who we put out there starting quarterback, you know, to be able to play effectively, and you know, right now, it's going to be an expert inexperienced guy. I mean, that's just the way it goes. But a really like our choices, and I feel confident we'll put it out there that will be ready to play. Well, I was gonna ask about this. I mean, everybody in the SEC plays a pretty tough schedule. Alva plays a pretty tough schedule. Coach. Yeah. Yeah. We've we opened up with Oregon, obviously, you know, there'll be a top ten team. And then you. Kind of go down. This kind of who we go to Texas AM, Mississippi State at home. Then of course, at Florida. We I've not been to Florida before every time we played Florida's been here. And then of course, the second part of our schedule is really unbelievable with the with the road game to LSU. And then of course, we in with Alabama Georgia. So you don't think it's five from what are the other day? It's five top ten teams. I think six in the top twelve so we'd put that schedule probably up against anybody. All right, coach, malzahn, appreciate you times. Good be with you. Thanks for having me. All right. That is coach Gus malzahn. Let's take a call. Let's go to line three who we got west western Augusta west. This is Tony how you doing? Good. Tony. How you doing? I'm doing great. Hey, I just wanted to say, you know, I'm a big Auburn fan. And I gotta say, you know, especially after hearing coach talk, you know, I'm excited for this year's team. I really am. I know there's a lot of question marks. But I think this is young and hungry team. I mean, I think our defense is going to be good just to see stated or de lines to be. I think talk in the country, you know, we'll high out there. Kevin steele. Always keep that defense looking good. Then as far as our offense goes, I think willows gonna set up. I think we back in two thousand yard rusher. You know, I had this much excitement for team in a while, the honest, you know, there's so many question marks, and it makes it exciting and a lot of ways. And you know, I'm confident, you know, in our in our future at quarterback between Knicks and and Joey I mean, I'm there's a lot of excitement on this year's team. And you know, I really think they're going to step up to the plate. I think people are going to be surprised, and I really am. But I was gonna say, you know, all these coaches, I'm really excited about coaching south this year, you know, with Cadillac coming back and. You know, I really think there's gonna be a lot of pencil this team. I wanna hear your thoughts on them. Well, I think I think there couple of keys west distant talking to people that Auburn they were really disappointed in the offense of line. They knew they might struggle a little bit. Now, all those guys are coming back. They've got to be better as somebody explained to me. They gotta be better because they can't possibly struggle as much as they did year ago. So that's key number one. Number two. I I like both quarterbacks obviously, Bo nicks is a legacy Joey Gatewood is so athletic. You know, he's not he's he's not Cam Newton. Okay. But he is a big athletic quarterback. And they've gotta get the run portion of the offense bat running quarterback back into it. You know, you could tell last year with Jarrett stidham, obviously has an NFL arm. But there are times when the quarterback has to run the ball or you're playing ten on eleven I'm anxious to see how a mouse on put that aspect of the game back in is that the way you see it. Now, I was gonna say, you know, and I don't mean to blame anyone. But you. In some ways. I think stood them holding the ball. Too long definitely made her offense of wine, you know, shorter more than they really needed to in a lot of ways. That's why I think having a little bit mobility at quarterback this year will actually you'll see a lot of improvement. How the line, and I was really surprised with the Knicks athleticism in the spring game. I don't even think he could move as well as he did he can move. So I often confidence in him. I know, you know, he's a freshman by we'd have to see. I mean, I really am excited. And then you know, the other two quarterbacks lead good. I don't think chords, you know, ready to take a starting job yet. But the other two are really good. I'm not, you know, taking them out of the discussion for taking that. Sorry job either. All right. Wes, I appreciate your call and call next time. Okay. All right. We gotta take you bring. We will be back. We're here to take your calls at eight five two four to seven to eight five eight five five two four to seven to eight five. This is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul finebaum. We will. The pride passion and Patrie of college. Football leaves Keer is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Welcome everybody back. We're here to take your calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five got a full show today after big yesterday. Let's go to Dan. In LSU, Dan about the Louisiana, but LSU, Dan is Tony Barnhart. How are you? County. A big fan of yours is to pirated talented, you mop, the pleasure is all mine. So what? So what do you think Scott when going LSU? Well. I think it's gonna be great for LSU. You know, it seems like he's he's done everything. Right. So far, I'm excited about it. You know, I'm going to ask you a couple of things about that. Sure. Do you think Scott words, first priority will be fire will way? As say, well, I think he's first priority is figuring out. What what the situation is? Because we don't know what the situation is all we know is he was suspended until he talked to the tail LSU and their investigators, and lawyers which he's now done and been reinstated. We don't know what's going to happen with the NCWA. We don't know what's going to happen. When the FBI we don't know if he's going to be asked to testify in this trial or not, and none we don't know any of those things. And so Scott Woodward has got to come to campus and figure it out. I think the thing's gonna take a while to play out. And then once he's got the information he'll figure it out whether or not a change needs to be made. What else you got? Well, I was just thinking couple of things and and as probably premature but. You know, I think I really think we'll way is kind of. He's he's kinda heard LSU in a way, do you? Well, the question how how you define hurt. I mean ev- every listen everybody, Dan, everybody in this process has done. What's been legally required of them? Okay. Finally. We'll Wade got on got on board and LSU is not. I don't think they're in a position to fire him now because he's complied with his with his part of his contract, which means which says you get you got compl- ply and talk to the lawyers. So I think you gotta let it play out. It's never good. When one of your coaches is mentioned in possible illegality or possible. Incidentally, rules, breaking but you, but you've got you've got to let it play it. You don't have enough information. And what you do if you're LSU. I think now they're going to sit there and let it play out and then make a decision. Well, you know, I believe. Scott order, would you are would would do the right thing. I really do. And I agree with you. Hey, dan. I've gotta run. I appreciate you guys. And you push it to come. Let's go to Matt in San Antonio Mattis. Tony barnhart. How are you? Under the Berne. Look, I'm worried about just got everything he'd gone now, as you know, I agree. One hundred percent what happened if he goes the JIMBO Fisher two three years from now. 'cause what happened is Hugh coach can't win and championship there. And we lose JIMBO Fisher L is Hugh. It's gonna put us in advance issue with because deputies right down the road in Austin. An is looking at the chops to see what happened JIMBO Fisher in what kind of athletic director. We get mill. I think this is a fascinating part of this story. Now, it's easy to say why it's not going to happen right away. And I don't think it is going to happen right away. Okay. It around here. Away with ten in three last year. Okay. And they they lose a terrible seven overtime game to Texas AM where they're sitting there at at eleven wins. And they you know, they have they've they've improved their offense by bringing in either leave by bringing in Joe Brady from from the saints. So I think they're going to be a pretty good football team. So you got to let this, but but man, I will say this about your spot on in this regard. I get two phone calls last night. I'm Charlotte spending tonight here in Charlotte. I get two phone calls last night. I said how long is it gonna take for Scott Woodward to go after JIMBO Fisher? And so people are. I why he left he did a lot for this university of him. I kind of respect. Why he is the session. But on the same time, I'm disappointed that he left. Well, I can understand that. But here's here's the deal when you get a chance to go. I think and I have talked to Scott what the press conference is not till next week. I I'm just telling you what I believe what I believe is that the the he Scott Woodward knew that the opportunity might come up, and I believe he made himself available. I believe he hired before Joel Leyva was let go, and I believe that's the way that this thing worked, and I you can't blame him regardless of wall. I want to leave but I like to questions for Daytona Brard. How do you what did you think of the spring football game in our secondary for this? You're coming football season. I'm sorry. You talking about LSU's football team, Texas stadium. Smart Baltic team are secondary last year. It was pretty bad this year, the things get better. I Don that I think they're going to get better. I really do. I I've got I don't know if you saw it. I've got LSU finishing second in the division. A lot of people would disagree with that. I think they're going to be significantly improved. And they're gonna again things seem to happen. The second year for whatever reason, I think the system gets in. They get people get more comfortable. I think the fact that killing mind is back. The defence is I think absolutely gonna get better. Now got a brutal schedule gotta go to Clinton and schedule. Very brutal. You know? But but you know, what everybody's got that. Hey, Matt, I'm gonna run take one more call. Appreciate you calling. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's go to Ernie in Tennessee, Ernie. It's Tony Barnhart. How are you today? Ever spoken to you. Tony. Listen to you a lot in your very nose. We'll person I have a I have an appreciate your time. And I have a question. I know my Georgia BULLDOGS are doing pretty good then recruiting well and since Kirby has took over and and doing a really good job. But it seems we're we're still. Thanks in Alabama are still probably ahead of us in recruiting even though we have great recruiting classes, and we're right there in the mix, but we can't seem to get over that hump because destitute obstacles in the way of us. Went in Nashville tip is here are well. There's no question that those those of the top two teams right now. But what Ernie? Here's what you can't do. You can't get hung up on one two and three if you've got one of the top three or four recruiting classes in the country, you're doing fine after that point. It's all about coaching them up. And when you get to the big game find a way to win. It Georgia has obviously been right there. Okay. They've been right there knocking on the door and his ilk coats said if you keep knocking on the door sooner or later, your gonna kick the sucker down. Okay. So I I believe that's where Georgia's right now. The job is going to have a really good team and got Notre Dame coming to their place. Hey, thanks for calling. I appreciate it. Ghana? Call us again next time. So we are here. Seventy for Paul finebaum. We won't your. Ause at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We have got a full show today. We've got one hour in the books is always a whole lot of fun. Tony Barnhart sent here for Paul finebaum. This is the Paul finebaum show. See you.

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Hour 1: 11/26/18

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Hour 1: 11/26/18

"Carello everybody. You're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper where every day is Saturday in. Everyone's a fan even babies and the seasons never change. Because the only season is college football season. Get a taste of fans Ville this fall during a college football game near you Dr Pepper the official Drake a fans Ville grab some today. Tried passion. Then patterns re of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. By this time next week. We will know who the floor. Although we think we have a pretty good idea who they will be anyway. But this is maybe how it looks right now subject to change because one in four. We'll end up playing each other. Alabama's clearly in the number one position. Clemson, I think is Italy's wrapped up number two. Alabama wins Notre Dame is firmly entrench at number three, but who will number four B Willoughby, Georgia. Well, if they beat Alabama they'll move up, we'll be Ohio State or Oklahoma. That is the question. And that's where we will spend a lot of time talking today also recap the weekend, including that seven overtime thriller out in college station much to do today. The show begins now. Finebaum show is presented by regions Bank. And we say Hello to you as we continue on week, fourteen the college football season begins. We'll wait fifteen won't be for a while. We say Hello to you. Hope your thanksgiving. Weekend was a good one. We certainly are happy to be here. And. If you haven't heard about it. I'm sure you have what a game in college station the early. Gator bay Gatorade bath. Hundred and forty six points. Two hundred fifty five plays a tale of seven overtimes. If you haven't seen it here. It is. He's going to ten with quarterbacks. The game here. The flying outside the five. Eastern conference. And certainly it was the game of the year. Maybe one of the most incredible games we've ever seen seven overtime so much at stake to probably costing LSU or shot at a Sugar Bowl and a ten win season in the regular season. They could still get ten in a ballgame for it made their season. Making up for that narrow loss to Clemson making up for some other disappointments and solidifying JIMBO Fisher in that position. Nearly a year after taking the job so much more to discuss including yo-you this game. Remember we had this game for the national championship. Now, we have it for the SEC title. It will be one versus four saving versus the pupil. Nick Sabin earlier today. For the team to go undefeated is quite a compliment. But it really doesn't mean anything if we can't take advantage of the opportunity that we have you know, next week in the SEC SEC championship game. And obviously, Georgia's a very very good team. Yep. They are dust goes. The news headline Kirby smart. No slowing Alabama will be no easy task. Yeah. There's gonna be a lot of cliche headlines this week because we've seen it before. And there's very little new to say about these two they know each other very well. Especially Kirby smart. We've been thinking about next game next game. The next game. The next game for us. We're focused on Alabama moved forward and what a tremendous opportunity great program team. They've got we know how good we put them listen year ago. So we know got football team. They do a good job. We're excited about representing the SEC each golden Atlanta point. Already lost his voice anyway. Thinking about person to may lose more than his voice Jim Harbaugh. Just one game away from playing for the big ten championship and the college football playoff Jim Harbaugh. Just vomited all over the horseshoe. They may never never be able to clean it up. What a devastating cataclysmic loss and many Michigan fan simply besides themselves today figuring if you can't beat urban Meyer this year when things are so troubled when will you ever be able to beat him? The answer is never big show on tap for today. Matt mascot, the reaction in Baton Rouge. If you think it's pretty. You thought wrong crisslow? Joining us from ESPN college Shurmur quarterback at Vanderbilt. Big game on Saturday getting bowl eligible, Greg. Marcus, George Schroeder was some suggestions for the college football playoff committee. But first your phone calls at eight five five four to seven to eight five look forward to hearing from all of you today. And let's start with Andrei in Atlanta. Andrea, how are you? My man. Kolja how do you sum of LSU see issues, and you look back reflect on it under? I am going to wait to the bowl game. Because I think the bowl game is going to really determine the final disposition if you can win a bowl game. Then I think most will look at it as a pretty good year. But if they lose that bowl game and ended up with four losses. I think some of the narrative is going to change pretty badly. Don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so real quick coast. What did you think about the seven overtime game loss to Texas day, coach Bomba? Well, when you when you when you play in a game, I think I think there was two hundred and fifty five plays. You can point to any number of them. Right. I realized there there's a lot of unhappiness on the LSU side. I think it's a game LSU probably should have won. Coats. Hey, coach, thanks for taking my call and everything and I hope everybody made it home safely from the thanksgiving holiday. Thanks, coach, Tom. Thank you very much. Andrea I like coach finebaum, don't you? Coaching openings throw my name into the hat for the university of North Carolina job. Hairy is up next in New Orleans. Hello, harry. Good afternoon. I hope you had a great thanksgiving. And it was great weekend on the end. I enjoyed it. And I join you comments. Regarding Michigan and the coach all ball. And I like the piggyback on on one point. If I might ask you one question question. But ala Bama, Paul sure about my comment piggyback, you'll comments on ESPN this weekend. You know, Paul when coach Bobo went up to Nevada looked at that offense with cap Nick in one on the Frisco and had a pretty good run there. You know, it seemed like you never really delivered that innovative offense at Michigan is going to need to beat people like Ohio State at all. And so I agree with you a hundred percent he's got to take a look at himself and maybe bit that even he belongs back in the NFL. But it looks like you belong in college coaching. The way I look at it. And perhaps he may consider the Green Bay job. I think that's I really I really think Jim Harbaugh should should give it up, and he is not going to get it done there. I stipulate as long as urban settle house. Stay because there have been could leave and it would be easier. But he is not proven to be an elite college coach. I think you're marble overall is a good football coach, I'm not about to disparage him. But he was he was better pro coach that's where he ought to go. Right. I agree Paul. And Secondly, it's maybe a small point to some people, but it's been sticking in my head lately. I wanted to get your take on this to you think in any way all of the talk about well if Alabama gets beat by Georgia they'll still get in the tournament. Well, you know, I'm wondering we'll add have any at all adverse effect on Alabama. And I'll hang up and listen and thank you all the poet to the show. Thank you very much. You know, Harry, I think if it's a close game and Albama competes, and let's say loses by a score. They'll get in that would be their only loss and you compare that to others the other schools with one loss and. Frankly, you have Clemson undefeated Notre Dame undefeated. So then in Georgia with one loss or having won the SEC. So I think Alabama would I mean, you you compare Alabama to house state no comparison house, they lost by twenty nine to Purdue you compare Alabama to Oklahoma who lost to Texas, but still Texas has lost a couple of times. I don't think it would be a difficult choice at all. And I know I know one person who would realize that rather Nazi Alabama in the playoffs if they lose to Georgia, and that would be our next caller, Daryl. Apply. Darrelle. So you'd be joint you beat Alabama for the SEC, then you have to play them and four weeks in the semi finals or the or six weeks in the finals that would be pretty tough wouldn't it change? They do. Regardless of the outcome. Gibault by fourteen also. Height? Explain to me happy date. How can they not? They don't have to play competition. Ship team is guaranteed a spot right now. But they don't have to play. I don't even read why why are they sold? I better everybody else walking. They get the conference in real converse and have a conversation ship date. Listen, I I'm I think it was a closer call if they if they had a loss. I would probably argue against them. They. Well. You're right. Touchdown late. Will Southern Cal. They also won that game out there. I thought I thought Notre Dame player a good schedule. You have your opinion. I have mine, but I thought they played as many good schools when when you started the season as anyone Stanford didn't turn out to very much, very good Virginia Tech didn't. But Syracuse a pretty good team. I thought they played really good schedule. I mean our game to post be like. The post. Greeny good teams. You know, the problem was a conference championship games this year because of a quirky the quirky nature. You got you've got I I mean, let's be honest. The ACC game is unwatchable. Pittsburgh. They just got they. I am. I agree. I totally agree. You got Clinton. I'm right now. I don't care what people say I still. We don't know how good. They haven't win over Texas AM. I told you we undebated schedule. Yeah. Let me give some Qaddus out to them all in. Dan Mullen gained a lot of our speakers weekend. But what he did football game. I thought that was pretty cool. Did you know what I'm talking about? Of course. I do. Yeah. He was he was on campus. The plastic. My hand. Hey, wow. No what they didn't told her out the hall. I don't know. What's that would add up in bears sale secon? They wanna put ball game. And they won't get by with Kevin ball. And all that. I mean could lower. They. Yeah. Do you know how I I don't know. I don't know what the answer to this is. But as a fan of the game, I was disgusted by what I saw at AM by what I saw in Oxford between ole miss and Mississippi State what I saw between NC state and North Carolina. There's just no excuse for this type of behavior before during or after a game. And I'm not sure we're we're you go to legislate this better. But there's just no reason for it. And you know, the the goal situation was ugly the situation call I mean, the college I'm not Alabama in college station, they game by the end of it. I people had lost their mind. But someone's got to do something about this. This four doesn't need it. And we we seen way too much of it this year. We'll take short break, plenty of guest. Com. We'll go to Baton Rouge. Get the reaction of the tiger fans after seven overtime loss or coming. Right back to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Hello, everybody. You're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper where every day is Saturday in everyone's fan, even babies and the seasons never chained because the only season is college football season. Get a taste of fans Ville this full during a college football game near you, Dr Pepper the official drink of fans Ville grab some today. Tried then pageantry of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Luck them back. Atmos- going from ESPN radio and batteries. Joining us always great to catch up with Matt Matt I realize you're still a couple of minutes away from from your show. But as we say Hello to you on this Monday afternoon described the mood of the LSU fans today. All much sure that it still down much from Saturday as the as the end of of regulation transpired in the sort of way. Look controversial calls when it gets LSU many fans reacted, and they took the Twitter another social platforms, and that that stirred up the conversation which hasn't slowed in the almost forty eight hours said, it's it's as intense reaction to a loss around here. A long long time. I mean, you might have to go back to triple overtime loss to Arkansas two thousand seven or maybe that Alabama loss in two thousand twelve on the yelled at lights. It's been an intense days. Listen anytime LSU loses game. There's plenty of blame to go around. Where's the blame being laid for this one? Well, if you if you listen to the majority of the fans, it's going to be a bevy of of bad calls. I tend to to side more with the side of there was plenty that LSU could have done throughout the game that would've avoided it. Right. I mean, they moved upon when they were just about to take control of the game. They dropped a wheel route. That would have been a touchdown look close. You had a chance on data third and four with under two minutes to play. They convert a first down game in your in victory mation, and they elected to play conservative and burn clock. And it did them even even the fourth and eighteen at the integration. That LSU allowed to converts. It's hard for me to blame it squarely on the reps. But but some some fans are are doing that today and that on the heels goal so of the Devon light targeting earlier this year, which created so much conversation. I think it has LSU fans in the spot right now with this kind of boulder bowl like like, they're being I listen early believe it, but some feel like they're being picked off. Man. Listen, I I don't find dicing slicing up -ficiating college. It'd be particularly exciting you do either. And I know you've gone over every play, and I have talked to officials, and I've talked to people that seemingly have good handle. And you know what? And you know, what their opinion is. But why would LSU fans feel that way? Why would they blame officials on the field who I don't think we're the same ones from a couple of weeks ago in a game with that many plays? What's the mindset there? I don't know if they're completely understand. Why would why would you favor over over LSU LSU is is a much better season? There is a I with Paul. And this is I know what I go on air today. This is a battle on the fight for three hours. Like, I know I'm my ship is sailing into the storm right now. But I can just tell you that that LSU fans feel as though they are consistently disrespected by the SEC office. There is a belief that there's a a conspiracy against LSU that a fish that LSU end up on the wrong end of calls more often than not, and no matter how much evidence you might present. Like. Kellyn Mons me on the ground while he's holding the football like, it sucks. The call went against you. But these ground. An SEC network shot of mon- spiking the ball balls on the ground. And there's one second all the play clock. Like, he's art. These aren't subjective calls that went against you. These things in the heat of the moment that that were, you know, close plays that you know, all in aggregate combined to to contribute to lose the game. But the bigger issue Paul is. Is one that is very hard to explain but LSU fans as a collective whole feel like they end up drawn the short straw BSE in this goes back to the permanent opponent thing where LSU doesn't like being permanently. Get matched with with Florida. They did not like all those years having to play Arkansas on the Friday at the things giving there's there's a litany of things LSU not being allowed to play night games. Like is their tradition and having to play in the day. There's there's a litany of things that this fan base is convinced itself works against them. And that the league offices in Birmingham favors, Alabama, and it's just an rambling Paul. But like, it's a it's a never ending narrative. And when things like Saturday happened it just adds to the narratives. Me. Let me bring this up because the director and vice chancellor down there. Joe alita has been an antagonistic. He went against the grain couple years ago in the Florida dispute whether he was right or wrong. I mean, he certainly did not play ball with the SEC. And that's not the first time does this play into that narrative, though. Because many on the other side have have found LSU to be completely uncooperative on on a number of issues. Sure, totally understand the question. Joe Joe leave has been very outspoken. I guess what I'm trying to say because of his outspokenness to fans thing that that they're they're being they're being punished for that. No. I don't know how anybody could finger. That's that's interesting. I hadn't I had not thought of that. And. Paul candidly, Joe hasn't been the most popular guy around here. The last few years the way things went at the end of the last miles era and the way that the coaching search at the end with the Tom urban JIMBO Fisher at Osherov thing happened. Joe Joe's taken his lumps, Florida thing was one where I think LSU fans felt like finally, you know, we got a guy that's not backing down league office, and we don't have to react that whole thing. LSU try to make concessions, but I don't think he I think both sides children a lot of blame Florida thing and twenty sixteen but he'll. It's it's a really weird dynamic, Paul. I think most people rationally could remove themselves from the situation sakes, actually what you said to me minute ago. Why would the league office favor, Texas, and I'm over LSU in this situation and rationally they wouldn't nonsensical. But it was just another. It was just another day where continued to add onto that narrative that people have convinced themselves cysts. I guess the final part of that is the whole James Carville deal, which you're not both know when a strike went awry on college game day, you saw an apology issued to the and I realized none of this is correlates to what we saw Saturday night. But I, but but it does seem to sum that LSU is always out there on an island, Matt, and I'm just I'm just trying to think like LSU fans. That's the only reason I'm bringing this up. I wonder and I don't know the answer to this. But I wonder if other fan bases in the SEC feel similarly feel like they're all that they draw the short straw, consistently into one thing if there's one thing that I wish the SEC would do I wish they would be more more transparent. Like when when the Devon white targeting thing happened I reach out the league offs and trying to get see Sean my show just to just for an explanation. Say here's why was called the way it was. And I was denied. But. If they will more transparent just as a message in this situation with LSU, I'm just saying in general, I think one of the best thing TV networks have ever done is put a rules official in the during games to explain calls. But if there was some transparency, I think it would help in an explanation. Hell calmed down some of this conversation because it I it feels trivial and try a necessary, but it's not going away and silence. Only only magnifies these voices, the mad you, and I both know because I know you've done plenty of due diligence today as we all have. And if you go through every one of these controversial plays frame by frame. There's an explanation, but you know, what there's always an explanation when you're talking about plays unless they're just blatantly wrong, which they can be. But but but but I guess I just I don't understand the the the the Alabama connection. And I've heard that from other candidates is when when the games in Kyle Kyle feel but. Not we're not going to solve that problem today. But finally, what does this loss mean overall though to to this season because you're not both know four months from now, it won't matter that the game may or may not have been controversial. It's still going to be a loss. Right. So I think this season is a whole for LSU when you look at nine in three when less miles with go ninety three but champion getchampion championship expectations. It was a disappointment this season considering the bar was very low base. Apprised a lot of people. And I think that the collective feeling around the program is there pointed in the right direction. They've got to figure out a way to beat Alabama. And if they can fix the offense, then maybe maybe they can find a way to compete. It's I think considering everything all of the off-season adversity. This program faced the coaching staff and roster. Turnover have been in a position there. Seven overtime game to finish with headwinds was nothing short of remarkable. And I think I think for the most part the collective LSU fan base administration all recognize this was this was a very positive season, regardless of the outcome of that one game on Saturday. And they got a good chance to finish. With a strong critic class may be Bill overall. I think the outlook in Baton Rouge in spite of that loss is is really still very positive. Thank you very much mad now you have a show. Get ready for have a great time this afternoon. Thanks, always. Yeah. One thing. I do want to add though, wouldn't that said? And I understand the issue fans always wanting to have their ni- game. But you also heard and that talk about the ability to beat Alabama. But since I believe someone could correct me on those. But I believe the last time the Alabama LSU game in Baton Rouge started before seven o'clock at night was two thousand and ten I'm pretty sure 'cause I've been to all of them or most of them the twelve fourteen sixteen eighteen all all all were played in prime time. So I don't know how that can be blamed on anyone because there's nothing to blame. All the biggest game of the year for LSU since two thousand eleven in Tuscaloosa, and then the even years that roofs have been in prime time. We'll take a short break back with more phone calls back with more guests as we continue here on a Monday. Q listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. You know, those blink motion activated security cameras. You hope to go on sale. Just did is the blink black Friday cyber Monday sale with huge savings now through Monday. Blink cameras are motion activated when they detect someone snooping around you get an alert on your smartphone with an HD clip and blinks live feet option. Let you monitor your home pets. And package deliveries. Visit blinkprotect dot com slash radio. That's blinkprotect dot com slash radio or hit Amazon and search blink camera. Cried, then pageantry of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Welcome back to the program and any college station year on the air. Hello any. Hi, Mr Paul. How are ya? Oh, we're doing great. Thank you love to hear it. So I know we had a big game this weekend in college station. And I just wanted to hear your thoughts not on any of the calls or the game itself. But on JIMBO Fisher. And if an made the right decision, never doubted it for a second. I thought it was the home run hire the off season at least going into the going into the next year. And I think JIMBO has shown what this program can be. There were some close calls this year the point Alabama re- relatively well. Shouldn't be Clemson let a couple of games get away in November. But he got it back on the final game. Right. There you go. I love to hear it wanna know your thoughts. Thank you very much. I think jimbo's often running Pam in South Carolina. Hello, pam. Hi, paul. Proposed to you that it is imperative or Alabama if they wish to win the national championship to number one lewd. To Georgia in the SEC. Why's that game yet? Well, thank about it. Has there been a we had? I know where you're going number one seed number one eight and the gotta have a law to win to think about that. The times. I mean, Alabama has one has one has one eight one eight championship under dick saving with being undefeated. The only only one time in two thousand nine every other time they've had lost. They've never one is the number one seed last year is number four seed two three years ago, the number two seed so read but. No. Well, yeah. Every all four years of the playoff number one seat lost. And and everybody had a loss. Do you think? There's a reason that college football team would benefit from having a law. The answer is no. Because I just think it's sometimes I bet if you ask Kirby smart privately did the loss to LSU help his team. He would say, yes. And I know it did because I saw the week after enough seen him since. But I don't think it's automatic in Alabama's case they are they are playing so well right now, a loss would only complicate matters. If they lost the game, it probably wouldn't change very much because I think they would end up maybe being the number two seed at worse than number three seed they would probably play Notre Dame at at either a two or three at number one. They would very likely get Oklahoma or how state and there's there's a there's an advantage to playing Oklahoma or allows state. I think they're both very beatable where Notre Dame or Clemson would be far more difficult. So maybe lost. No well through saying, I don't think it will. But whatever you want you. If you want to see a loss get a loss. How about Bill and Baton Rouge? How are you Bill? Doing good. Oh, I'm calling. You know topic today has been my topic since about almost midnight, Saturday LSU, Texas AM, and yes, I am tiger. Stan I've been going issue game since I was in first grade and sixty four and this game. Boy, any I mean, you know, all of us LSU people about white goes on and we play ala Bama either here or in Tuscaloosa, right, right? Well, spied all that. This game was born the worst I've ever seen. I thought that officials had a bad call in Nashville the week before with ole miss and Vanderbilt I thought the old mess receiver held onto the football. And was on his back there in the end zone. You know, and then db row with the two of them rolling around knocked it away they called it differently. But if they say Kelly mines Neave was down. They didn't run the clock when they. Set the ball. And when they took the interception away from LSU in the fourth quarter. Then when they had the three second play because monotone it out of bounds or something like that. And he spiked the ball. They didn't start running the clock when he did the snap. And they kept the one they had it the one second on the clock. I know that was coach owes gripe to some the sports local sports writers, no yesterday. But in that first overtime. I mean, even in the NFL that tied in the ball got jaw loose. He caught the ball facing his quarterback. He turned around to two steps. And then the db hit him and the ball came loose and LSU recovered in the field of play that should have been a fumble LSU would've won by field goal. I have never seen anything like that before in my life. The referees beside that let both teams play most of the game. I think am held more offenses. Then LSU did. But I know LSU hell there was a couple of questionable possible enough. It's 'cause that were not called, you know, I know how the LSU DB's are. And they got lucky sometimes and nothing was called. But they let him put the boys play, and then they're going to get nit picky. Like that. Does a lot of talk here post game Saturday night about on that spike at a ball with one second left in the fourth quarter that there should have been run off for legal formation. I did at almost midnight. I wasn't thinking legal formation. So I didn't notice that. But it was a weird situation. And that they at least should have been penalized for delay of game. Because it was a long time and the roughly stood right over the ball. Wait for Kelly Monto leave JIMBO Fisher on the sidelines and go back to play. And that's just my gripe. I mean ALP I'm not too far. That's like I say I've been. Watching college football for a long time. Now, paul. Bill. Thank you very much for the phone call. We are up against a break. Plenty guests to come on the program, including yours at eight five five four to seven to eight five. Two and listening to Paul finebaum show podcast AARP can help you become your healthiest self. It's why we offer health tips for your body and your brain. So take on today and every day with AARP learn how it take on today dot AARP. Tried action then Patrie of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Back to the program. Glad all of you are here. And let's talk to Matt in Austin, Texas, nad go right ahead. Hey, paul. How are you? This rainy boy, quite well. Thank you. One of the a little bit about Jim Harbaugh and urban Meyer. But before that, my alma mater university of Texas has re-met with oh you Saturday in the big twelve championship game. And I was listening to one national program, I won't say who to barris them, but they were talking of along the lines of well, if all you can just handle Texas again like they did the first time. And and I guess I must have missed something. Because you know, that is the one loss that oh, you has as a Texas fan when you hear everybody talking about, you know, us chances in the final four and all that I think are skipping past the this game. And I don't think that would be a wise move for. Yeah. We tend to do that. I was part of that conversation yesterday morning while Ohio State vs of Oklahoma. And I do think Oklahoma has the toughest of the conference championship games other than the George Alabama game. But I. Think it's a fair fight. It was a great kick to win that game in Dallas. But this this will be a little more difficult. I think because Oklahoma has just started to play at a level that that is really awful charts. But of does it help or does it hurt that you've already beaten them watch people argue that day long. Hey, Texas had a large lead in that game. And in let it get away. And then one with the kit right headed trouble fourth quarter, Kansas as well. So coach for Landau needs to figure out what he needs to change in the fourth quarter. But the good thing is they've been getting to the fourth quarter with large leagues. And you know, that that is where you wanna be. You're completely correct about I thank you for the call. Really do appreciate that. Let's continue with more phone calls here and met is in Georgia. Hey, paul. How's it and I'll get that? Do you think out Obama has a chance to beat us on Saturday? I really don't met. I I mean because that's such a such a pertinent question. They're mad. Thanks for calling raise in Fort, Wayne, Indiana. Hey, Ray good afternoon. But all hope you had a great thanksgiving. Thank you very much. Well, I'll tell you why a lot of Turkey poke and five, but I'll tell you. My greatest dessert. I could ever ask is the fuck. I just want to. I hear you over the bullies. Jim Harbaugh over four they have one. They have won a pop pita top team team in two thousand six. Listen I've run out of adjectives to describe the product at Michigan put on the field Saturday. Command against a boy. Well, it's a. Running back out of the backfield to over the over there too, man. One one one is in a Stockholm syndrome. Where are they going to go this year ball are they gonna go to North Korea bet nam, I would think the perfect spot. Perfect spot. And you know, you know, what's even more amazing than that wherever they go ESPN will send a reporter will glorify him Harbaugh. We'll talk about how brilliant he is. And then come back next year and get his jaw wired up again after the game against even Meyer eight they play rich ride Rigas radio for not being Hieaux state. Yeah. Brady Hoke won one game. One game of fifteen years running back. Brag about they're going to win that gig guaranteed. He said to me yesterday. Hey, I the guys are really good coach. I said, yeah. But he's but he's oh enforce. Well. Well, it's not easy. I said I can go out and I can go four against house day. I've never coached a game in my life. Well, let me tell you in their history. They've never had a coach Bora gets guys. Now. How does he get a patch while getting because he's chosen one? Yeah. I mean, he's he's him harmful to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Hello, everybody. You're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper where every day is Saturday in everyone's fan, even babies and the seasons never change because the only season is college football season. Get a taste of fans Ville this fall during a college football game near you, Dr Pepper the official drink of fans Ville grab some today.

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Jerry Recco is here. He's got all of that. What's happening? Jerry. Brought to you by winner brothers waste systems long island's number one choice for all your waste collection and recycling needs. Visit winters be R s dot com. Just quickly. Russell wilson. You guys on your played the audio the four years with the Seahawks sixty five million dollars signing bonus and good for you hundred and forty million dollar extension and all highest paid player in the NFL as of now in terms of the Sixers and nets good. I. Half for Brooklyn and a horrific third quarter up top at bead drives stops fades in the league at its good. Joe L beats nineteen and again, another situation where the previous game, you would've shot dead three elected to take it all the way doesn't around because leader the game for the Sixers fifteen and that would. Yes. And he did make the trip to Philadelphia went to the game did not go. Well for him though. We can the growing. Yeah. Little bit for sure. And if you watch the game, you could see the Ben Simmons came out like, yeah. He was different. Yeah. He was he was terrible in game one. They were able to neutralize him driving to the basket. They couldn't do that last night because you can't hit a jump shot. So, but he was just he was just last night. So the question that we had yesterday when we left the air was how would the young Sixers players respond to the bullying from the home crowd the night before. Right. Yeah. And Simmons was the main target, and he came out from the get-go and was great and listen. The nets came back in the first half the ended up going into halftime tied. And it was looked like it was going to be another one of these really really good games for Brooklyn. But then that third quarter that was where the Sixers decided they had had enough of this outscored fifty one to twenty three isn't that that fifty one points is an NBA record leaving apply slide. Right. Yeah. I believe I believe at tied Iraq. Record. Yes. Crazy or unless the clippers broke it later in the night with their second hand more than fifty they'd seventy two points over the final twenty minutes of that game or so he scored eighty five which secondhand believable. Yeah, I'm pretty they were down. It was ninety four sixty three with about seven or eight minutes to go in the third quarter on the road. Yeah. We'll get to that. In a second. Just one forty five one twenty three the final for Philly as they even things up at a game apiece. Twenty-three ten and twelve for Embiid who says yes Simmons was the he was the energy. We were lacking depicts you up. It lifts you up. And it makes you wanna play the same way tonight was fantastic. And he did have the flagrant Fallon Jared. Allen Rhody crews than at a flagrant foul as well on Simmons. Here was Alan he didn't think much of the MVP that flagrant who's trying to make aggressively. And he's been me in the mountain. I don't think he was Sean. They intentionally hurt. Anybody was like a showing, please. Playoffs, and the cool roots WI agree with that the coup routes one didn't look like anything to now. I didn't this overreaction. I mean. Yeah. This one here. There was a big argument during halftime with Kenny and Charles and shack and all those guys about it's a flagrant one or a flagrant two and shacks at listen. You've got to go to the basket strong happen from time to the classic shack move. Right. Absolutely. And he was the one. He was the one that had is he had his elbow. Hi, hit him right in the chin. Yeah. I definitely thought that it was. Yes. I don't know, man. I he wasn't looking right at him. I think he knew that he had to go to the basket strong. But didn't think he was trying to do that one. The was at the North Carolina kid that went to go trip or somebody went to go trips. Syracuse Syracuse scale, right? That kid know what he was doing. He did it on Frank Howard. I think he did it on purpose. Just like I do believe MB knows exactly what he's doing. He knows who he's playing against you knows when he goes up like a listen, a pterodactyl or something they come around and he's going to catch the guy right in a chin. And that's exactly what happened. I guide the liberally tripping and other players different than someone who's trying to score. But he knows he knows exactly what's going on knows where the player is. And he knows when he puts his wing, you know, his elbows up where they're going to end up, well, Tim outside especially the way he threw that elbow. But if you heard 'em beating the post-game laughing about it. And here's I got a I mean, I have another chance to cut up. Hear him rapping about it. What does that make you think it makes you think that you might be right, right? Here was the thirty seconds on the flagrant wasn't suppose. I saw that. We. Obviously it wasn't intentional. And I got him put a good, and I'm sorry about it. But. That's definitely intentional one hundred percent. Okay. Look at that replay. Again, look at that replay. Again, that's one hundred percent pension. And I think that he knew he was going to go to the basket strong. And if there is some collateral damage there, so be it. Let's put it that way. If that guy, we're on skates. You would have a meeting NHL enforcement of rules on person meeting that would be an elbow to the head would try to keep away from, you know, concussions and things of that nature. We're very sensitive about these things these people have feelings that was intentional. How about Reggie Miller last night? Basically saying NBA was fat. I mean, he just called him out. He's like, whoa. He's carrying way too much weight out there. Jeez. He's not practicing. We'll go on that guy. Right. I mean, everybody's all over him. Yeah. Well, because he runs his mouth, and he's going to get it back. It's the way it is. You know, embiid's got something to say about everybody and everything. So people have something to say about him. Here was Kenny Atkinson, never good to lose. But we did do our job dull story, she told us before. We're splitting here in Philly. I think we'd be. Happy and so game three Obie Thursday night in Brooklyn. Then you go to the clippers and the warriors. And yes, a thirty one point lead at home for Golden State roughly midway through the third quarter. Next thing, you know, the clippers go on this monster run, and they had an opportunity late the clippers have a chance to take the lead down by one Lewis been magical all night long. Does he have another trick? This leave moves to his left bounces to shave goes down the lane right side the show. One fifty eight seconds to play damn one thirty five one thirty one would be the final score clippers radio there. He was mentioning Lou having a magical night, that's Lou Williams, boy, Lou Williams and mantras Harold off the bench Williams goes for thirty six seven of nine from three herald twenty-five off the bench nine of nine from the floor and the clippers absolutely stunned. The warriors to take game to also of note DeMarcus cousins left the game with a leg injury. Here was Doc Rivers. That's a big deal because I think he might have faith. Yeah. There's today torn squad. Now Steve Kerr said that we don't know yet. It's it's significant and he's going to be out awhile. So we've done for the playoffs. Yeah. Which is. I mean that is a non contact. It's just a that's a big deal for amazing to me. Kevin Durant only had eight shots last night. Fouled out ended up fouling out to what's going on with him. I don't know. I don't care. Just get him. Here doesn't make a difference to me that was going on with them. I don't care if you use them in Brooklyn for sure I mean, I'll stop I heard a caller to Tony while I was driving in like, I don't think I want to ran. I don't think he could handle New York stop when another year of Alonzo tree-ring, Emmanuel moody. Stop it mareo his Zonja. You don't want. Kevin Durant plays. Aren't you? In the mood in the mood in the mood for somebody. Thank you largest comeback in NBA playoff history. Here's Doc Rivers. He says the message throughout the game never changed. We're gonna win. You know, just hanging there. Just hang in there long enough. I was honest with them. I said, I don't know how. I said we're gonna figure this out. Here's Steph curry what the hell happen at thirty one point lead and wheels fell off. So I know can get back. We've obviously, you know, showing that that level of basketball is therefore game three Also Thursday night. Steve losing his mind. He, but that's him. Every that's a regular season game in November. I think that's how would be if our own day sports team of some sort and they wanna game like that our would act just like that. And I don't think so I think he'd be fed every night as what I think, I think you wake up to the Email. Yeah. Well enough to own a sports team. And you would go to all their games. I would. Yeah. I'd get a limo or something there. I didn't have to look for parking. And you would have you would be as dorky as bombers on the sure about dorky, but. Arkie? What does he do the dorky have you seen? I think it's great. It's into it. It gets really into does like this. And all that kind of this is like an owner, you know, kind of goofy much rather have that than what we got the garden went on? That's a good point. That's a very good thing. You know, they choreographed found this came over to me and yelled and unacceptable. That's what we have is our own, you know. You know in this guy's fired up as a teams winning a playoff game against the greatest team of all time. He's not a dork Dmitri hero from the day. He took over. Kidding me tonight. The magic face the raptors Spurs in Denver, the blazers host the thunder. No surprise. I n Williams and makes it official declaring for the NBA draft. Perhaps a surprise here reports say Saint John's has offered their head coaching position to porter Moser from loyal of Chicago. Right. The sister Jean school. And apparently there was a dispute on who to hire. And the new AD really like clues. And then there were others who wanted porter Moser. So we'll see what the hell here's the deal. One of the reasons that Saint John's basketball is in the situation that it's in is because too many people are apart of the decision making process. Somebody cooks. That's exactly right. If you hire a guy that be you'd get them from do. There's a reason why you hired him because Duke is a very successful athletic program led by their basketball team. Obviously, you would think that you would hire that guy, and then you would trust his judgment as to who to hire. As the next basketball coach for Saint John's. Due in large part to where he came from am. I right now. It is right. Yes. I'm trying to remember who had the back of porter Moser because it was not the the new AD. Mark crag had wanted clues from what I saw last night. And I'm trying to I'm trying to see who it was. Let's see I'll find it for you. While you do that. We'll go back to Philadelphia for the Mets and the Phillies mid set a few leads in this game most notably in the eighth inning. But Jerry's familiar was horrific. If it wasn't for a great play at third base by Jeff McNeil Mets probably lose this game. And then after he comes out, you get Robert gazelle men that comes on with the bases loaded in two out facing gene cigar, the Mets clinging to a six five lead three zero the count. Here's the pitch. Hi four. The game is tied a four pitch. Walk by Robert Carr's Selman to gene sucker has tied the game. Now, he would get Bryce Harper to pop. Up to end the inning you push into the eleventh when the Mets have runners on base and Michael Conforto at the plate pitch. Swing on a ground ball heart. The first Hoskins rolled into short right field. Look around third coming into the pipe. Is this was way off line? Look our scores going to third as Nimmo. And at first is Michael Conforto. The mix of taken a seven six lead here in the eleventh in it and not only would Edwin. I'm Howie rose. Tally on WCBS, eight eighty he locked down eleven pitches striking out the side. And it was the likes of Harper Hoskins and rail Muto, so the Mets do win the game seven six here was Mickey Callaway. Yes. We struggled in the eighth. But in the end, we won we walked three guys and walk to run in. But we still came out with a win. And that says a lot you know, that that's hard to do against a really good team. Here was McNeil on that big double play on my Cal Franco just trying to be ready possible. I know he's in Harris County. I mean, I know he's looking to get the head out and drag it along he did they smoked it out. And they just happened to go my glove, and he got the double play runner goes to third. And then they walked you guys. Here was more Calloway. And you think you brought this up earlier boomer on D as not coming into the game until they had a lead. We've said this before on several occasions. He's not going to give four outs. He's gonna get three. So he's a one inning guy. And it would have been the ninth inning. Not the eighth, and that's why you held them till the eleventh. Here was Diaz. Licking me. Struck out the side. Say that three of us hitter in the lineup know Harper, mortal, host can raiders boy, I talked with my father will through my line mice that you know, the outs this kid, man. Kidman has about a kid has got like supreme confidence on you. Just gotta hope that James Paxton could have a ten percent of that competence when he goes up against the Red Sox. We'll Stephen Mads goes against Nick Pavetti tonight on WCBS eight eighty the is our home for Boston on the fan at five fifty five. The Yankees are six and nine the Red Sox are six and eleven it's Paxton and sale. And part of the reason the Red Sox are six and eleven they did not have a great weekend. With the Orioles that ended poorly on patriots day and the three Jewish. Swung audit drill the deep right field back yet goes at that ball is gone over the Orioles bullpen, and there's this first of the year. Chris Davis goes deep a Jew Gironde shot for a little. Insurance. And the Orioles now lead at six to one and the Orioles would win eight one that was Orioles radio Dwight Smith, Chris Davis big days. Baltimore takes it. Cubs. Beat the Marlins seven to the brewers. Get one heck of a night from Christian yelich three home runs seven RBI's. They beat the cardinals ten seven Indians over the Mariners six to four Rockies top the Padres five to two and the dodgers were trailing the reds late until jock Peterson came up. Dodgers. Hoping for a walk off Peterson six home runs on a year abroad ball. On its way. Doc Peterson news Charlie Steiner dodgers radio. They wanted to beating the reds four three. Osceola Polk was back. He actually showed up to the ballpark late and then homers in his first about against Clayton Kershaw. And I I love the guy, but he says he's crazy Christian yelich rice? And Christianity has have an unbelievable season. Eight home runs and twenty two Rb is you know, there's somebody actually having a better season than him. All right, Cody Bellinger, nine and twenty three Rb is Cody bellinger's batting four thirty three right now. That's amazing. Yep. Pretty good start. So far, no doubt. See seven at bats off as having a hell of a season. He's off to agree star to tonight in Pittsburgh island whose go for the sweep of the penguins on radio dot com and WFAN dot com. It's seven thirty last night. The avalanche the predators hurricanes and Maple Leafs. All one and the flyers hire former ranger head coach Alain vigneault as their new head coach. Thanks, jerry. So this is the tweet from Adams Goria who is covering the Saint John's search said there's a bit of a power struggle at Saint John's mean Joe alita who favors porter Moser and Mike crag who wants Tim clues as of Friday. The job was Tim clues one source said Saint John's met with Moser tonight that was last night. So Joe alita is the VP of administration secretary in general counsel. He was an intern may deed was big in the hiring a Chris Mullin will. So this is a guy now who is give him the apparently getting his way over the new way that you brought in according to Adams gory tweet this out last night. If porter Moser gets the job, which is. Porter Moses is gonna come into a situation where the AD wanted him second. Yeah. Life doesn't seem right. Does it? No. It doesn't.

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Hour 2: 4/18/19

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Hour 2: 4/18/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The fried pack, and then patron three of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. Oh, welcome back. That was a fun. I our three more hours to go. Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul finebaum. Fall Paul is on a psalm today. He'll be back in this chair tomorrow as we get ready for Easter weekend. The first hour we looked at all angles of this LSU, Texas, AM situation of Scott would would go into go into LSU, suddenly leaving Texas A and M and all the ramifications that that means later in the show, we're going to have Adam Rick Burke, going to look at it from ESPN dot com that to look at all the angles, Olin Buchanan from tech sags dot com. All of a sudden, Texas, Texas am is in the market for an athletics director who is going to be somebody Mitch and somebody Mitch out there Greg Byrne who is the athletic director at the university of Alabama who who loves his job, and he told AL dot com. Hey, I'm really happy to Alabama only reason Greg burns name came up as it is dad was a formerly the Texas am athletic. Director and they still live in Bryan, Texas, which is nearby to college station. I gotta feeling great burn is going to stay exactly where he is. He loves being at Alabama. So we are here for the next three hours to take your calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five eight five five two four to seven to eight five. Why don't we go to the callers? Let's go to Shannon from Clearwater, Shannon. It is Tony Barnhart. How are you? How will you telling me? I am doing. Well, we're talking about what is the springtime we're talking about ball. Okay. Who who's got it better than us? Shannon. Really, nobody maybe Clemson. Maybe Clemson comes closest nap rooms and the bowling alley and all that stuff. I gotta go in. So I want to ask you how how do you think about the Alabama defense or the season? It's going to be I think they Alabama defense is going to be fine. There were times last year when I thought they gave up way too much yardage. I thought that the secondary could be better but just from talking to coach Sabin and the folks down there. I think they feel listen Alabama is going to be fine. They're going to be picked to win the SEC west, and you sit there and look at that Alabama schedule who on the and really the the game at Texas am on October twelfth. I mean that's the game. And so I think Alabama wins. I think they go into feed it, I think they play Georgia in the SEC championship game. Now, are they going to beat Georgia this time will it be Georgia's year? That's what we gotta find out. I I just think with all the changes that have happened in Alabama and the coaching changes for the good. They trust me when I tell you. They have upgraded that coaching staff from an Xs and os in teaching standpoint and the head football coach is. Is pretty excited about it? So I think Alabama is going to be fine. That wanted Clemson too. Clemson. I don't think you Lou Clinton's going to win. I think they're playing Texas. Am and Clemson, okay. They're going to win that game. I think Clemson wins all their game. I think they've got a very very manageable schedule, which is a nice way of saying. They've got a relatively easy schedule. I believe I think they're gonna win all their games. They're going to win the ACC championship. And they're gonna to get in the playoffs and the question. Where are where are they going to be seated? That's that's that's the issue. I have Clemson Clemson will be one. I'll Bama to think if they get both go undefeated. We're we're going to. I think we'll start that way. And it depends on how how those two teams perform. But I think you're probably right and one more question. What do you think about two for this year? I think two is going to be fun now to made some mistakes in the national championship game. He got he got baited into making some stakes in that game. I think he's learned from it. I think we all have the same question. What's to going to be like with Steve Sarkisian as the offensive coordinator? I think two is going to have a big year. I believe this set of Alabama wide receivers. Maybe the best school has ever had just they just they're just incredible just incredible bunch. So I think two is going to have a big year. I think she Harris the running back. I think he's going to have a big year. I think Alabama is it's funny. You talk about a fourteen. In one team in a bounceback mode, which is which could probably only happen in Alabama. But I I think Alabama goes undefeated they play Georgia in the SEC championship game. I think so. All right. Listen, protect you calling. All right. Let's go to Charles in Louisiana. What's up Charles? I'm doing great better than I deserve. They I'm checking the it's the first time call on this show. Okay. And and I wanted to talk to you about LSU how you think you're gonna do this year. I think she's got a chance to have have a special year for a few things fall into place here. Here's what here's what you have to answer for me. Can Joe Brady coming in from the saints? Can he improve the for lack of a better word the creativity on that offense? That's thing about LSU. They just haven't been into days game. You've got to be much more creative on the offense. You you. You can run the RPO's the run pass option and all that kind of stuff that's important. But you gotta show some sophistication in the passing game as something LSU has not been able to do you bring in Joe Brady from the saints. I think the offense in that regard is going to get better. I think the defense would Dave Aranda call. I think they're going to be better. And you know. It all comes down to a handful of plays a handful of games for teams like LSU, do can they beat Alabama? Can they beat Texas AM can they win? Can they win the big? Can they beat Florida? It comes in. And if you win those games, and all of a sudden, you're playing for the national championship. But I think the elements are there for LSU do it. But it's going to come down to like, I said a handful of place and a handful of games. Embrace maybe guessing the click with LSU and does he does like he with the same. I think I would should could be in the making cabinet good football team in the future. I think I mean. Well, I mean, that's just what I think. You got the defense. You've got the defense set Charles. Okay, good there. And if you can do some more I think Joe borough has proven that he can be an SEC caliber winning quarterback. I think he's he's a tough kid. He can make the throws. He sometimes sometimes makes unforced errors. But I think he's a guy that you can win with. So you've got to put the guys around him. And you gotta give him a chance from a scheme standpoint to get better. And I think they I think that I think hiring Joe Brady from the saints was something they had to do if they were going to make the next step to find a way to be there for four quarters against Alabama. So I thought that was really good move. Right. Well, what do you think? That's I mean what you think. Oh, yeah. Reckitt would be put it here. You know? You know, I don't have the schedule in front of me. But I I gotta believe it comes down you'd have to say that Alabama will be favored to win when when they play. But can they do I see LSU as the sort of ten and ten and two team with a little luck? They go eleven in one. That's that's what I see scope here. That's that's a great thing. I love about ki-be cubic makes things happen. There's a schedule right there. Oh, by the way. You gotta go to Texas on the second week of the season. I promise I that will be a difficult game. They will look forward to that. They play Florida Florida every year Auburn at home at Alabama at Texas. Am at home. That's big. I can see I can see LSU going eleven one ten and two against that schedule. If they get past -pected, I think they can make you know, a difficult. You know, I think they could do something they get past texted. It's it is going to be it is going to be a lot a lot of fun. That's the great thing about about the season. We keep talking about it in the off season and say, they got a chance if they if they can do this this this. But I think it's great Charles. I appreciate your call him, my friend again next time in you know, it was my first time caller without end yard point. Please please call back. We appreciate it here in front. All right. We gotta take a break when we come back. We are here to take your calls. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We've got Olen Buchanan coming up at Wynberg coming up and March sleigh ball in the final hour. This is Tony Barnhart sit in Paul finebaum. This is the Paul finebaum show. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place. Home is where you have a cute little reading nut for those rainy days when you want to curl up with a good book, but you don't even read. So you just sit in there during thunderstorms and scroll through means on your phone and laugh in the darkness. 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And so to me that's one of the most fascinating stories in college football, Georgia has had a we said earlier they've been third. They want thirteen games in a row against members of the SEC. They have dominated the SEC's, but they have not been able to beat Alabama when when it his cannon. So we shall see along those lines pretty good segue here, Dan from the state of. Georgia, Dan, it's Tony Barnhart. How are you? Hey, Tony, I'm doing well. Good. Thanks for taking my call. Really? Really appreciate your insight. And quite honestly, I think you have the best expert nasty thing, they can talk. And so probably should let me let me touch base couple of questions into malls Uday gay pretty excited about the pin certainly have some Wilkes. Hey, dan. I'm sorry. You're you're you're cracking up because you call us right back. We've we've getting a bad line. And I can't hear you. Thanks. Appreciate that. Let's go to Bill and starkville Mississippi Bill, it's Tony Barnhart. How're you carry an rating good? It's really exciting. When I see you there that made now Alabama people are calling the rent. Anna. We'll Bill I'm glad you called where you know, I made and I know don't represent one of the glamour Bray of the conference. But but it same time. I'll be the only one call permission for say for the next three hours, and you know, spring and things too much football. I know when I expect you to be super great. But as a mission for say person, football wise, we do better when we don't have unreasonable expectations thrown of us. And you know, this we'll see how this thing works out. But my main thing is talk about the other, sports and athletes. Former that Mississippi State the basketball baseball, the ten is the golf that doesn't get a lot of published in me right now, you know, southeastern conference in college baseball has got eleven of the fourteen ten schools right right in the top twenty five and I don't. I I don't know the last time you were in starkville. But of course, the big Troy the big crow on this that his as they referred to it as the new duty. No you, and I I really wanna get there. I didn't get there this spring, and I wanted that was one reason I hope to get there was to seated new duty noble and everybody knows how would a big deal. How great the Mississippi State baseball program is look across the board in the SEC. When people bring up the the non revenue sports the Olympic sports. I always go back to former Commissioner ROY Kramer, Commissioner or Kramer came in one thousand nine hundred ninety and one of the things he mandated with his athletic directors at that time was if we're going to field a sport we are going to fund it completely that mean scholarship money recruiting facilities. We're going to compete at the national championship level in every sport, we sponsor, and if we can't do that, we're not gonna we're not going to sponsor and. I believe that commitment from ROY Kramer. And that financial commitment has led to you know, obviously, the best baseball conference women's softball is off the charts golf right tennis track and field you name it. But it all goes back. Do you make the commitment financially and otherwise to be successful? And that's why the SEC is so good across the board. And you know, and I want to throw Antoni right now that the stature out, and you showed the thing about how much the different aid as a getting paid. And right now, little known fact, listen Prestage athletic, but is ninety three million dollars. Do you know how much Alabama's? If I had to I don't know Bill ahead to guess, it's probably one fifty one sixty something like that it a hundred ninety three million dollars. The you don't have much Texas. AM's budget is is probably the same as two hundred and thirteen billion. Now, I am not surprised by those figures at all. And they an and my point is the book that brand that we've got in starved. We're doing the most with the least that that that's on the charts. And then it made a run out. And I won't do this thing quickly. Everybody all the guys John. And all them said. Well, you know, what we haven't heard anything from Alabama since it got crushed by Clemson. And I don't know what's going on. And I laughed and went. Yeah. That's because all the sports famed football football. Hey women. And so therefore, they ain't call it. If they had a winning team best ball baseball women's are men. We'd be hearing about it. Well, bill. Here. Here's the thing where the SEC is at a at a wonderful advantage across the boards every year due to share revenue every SEC team starts with forty million dollars. And that that is a great place to start because I remember I've done this along. I remember when people's entire budget with forty million dollars or less. So I think you know, and county I wanna hit you with this. I work for called mattox. And I know you know, who that it? Yup. In nineteen eighty when the athlete like you'd admission Michigan state, but about six million bucks. Six million bucks. I mean, and I mean, and now I mean like I said it's ninety three and and it subsidized with the forty three we took the abuse for fifty or sixty years from the convert to band flippable. So that now we're getting the benefit of the money for it. And are able to do it. I mean, so that's my face. I just wanted to get and again because they want to say I'm surprised at mad from San Antonio didn't ask you how you sell Kellerman was gonna do every day. He called the ask you what you think? He'll months don't be. Okay. I'll I'll answer for you. I think killing mom's going to be. Okay. Bill from starkville. Thanks for calling my friend. Appreciate it. Let I it's a nice wrap up this segment with let's go with. Coach. Coach, it's Tony Barnhart. How are you? Hey, Tony, thanks for taking my call saluting. Hey, just a theory on the LSU Texas stadium situation. I know you you're getting ready to go to break. So I'll be quick. But just a theory Scott would was at LSU if I'm not mistaken Lynn win JIMBO was that LSU with Nick Sabin if I'm not mistaken. That's correct. And do you happen to know what jimbo's by out is Texas? I do know what jimbo's by out is Texas. Am I do do? You know, what it is? It is it is zero. That is correct. So just theory. Maybe when Scott took the job Texan him, Joe alita has been on thin ice at Scott was dream job for a year for three years. So for an AD to give a semi five million dollar guarantee to coach with zero buyout. I think the people in Texas indium ought to be worry. Just like I think coach, oh, if he finishes did you have been picked for this year. In the west. I believe that's right LSU. Yup. If he's finished his fourth in the west this year. Don't you think JIMBO Fisher will probably plant and residents and Baton Rouge, and is going to be a fascinating story to watch. When when LSU plays Alabama, and when they play Texas AM, it is going to be so fascinating. We'll and we'll see where where we'll LSU be when they play Alabama. Where will they be when they play Texas AM? But this is this is one of the things that makes his conference so interesting there's so many different storylines that are going into the season. And this this situation was Scott Woodward has taken what was going to be a very interesting season. And really dialed it up coach. I appreciate your call and call next time if you will okay, we gotta take a break. We come back. We'll have a Buchanan from tex- x dot com. Excuse me that we're going to have Adam ridden. Berg, Adam ridden Burke, ESPN dot com, and he is going to cover all angles of this LSU. Texas AM situation, come see us. This is Tony Barak sitting in for Paul finebaum. The pride passion, then patron Torri of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. All right. We're going to welcome everybody back, and we are excited to bring in our colleague at ESPN dot com. Addin written Bergh Adam would jeopardize Zillow put it put together. Real nice piece. Looking literally at every angle of this Scott will to Texas AM LSU story, some intriguing stuff first of all Adam thanks for joining us. Good to have you shop. Great to be with you. Tony. All right. Let's start here. Big picture thirty thousand feet, Adam. What what was your first takeaway when you heard the Scott Woodward who had put together this juggernaut of an organization at Texas AM? He suddenly decides that he wants to go home. And oh, by the way, Joe alita just got shoved out the door to another job. What was your first reaction to all of that? Sure, Tony why I would say the part about a lever was not a surprise. That was something that was likely coming sooner rather than later. His stock had been falling know really for several years. Among some of the key folks at LSU, which is you know, is a very politically charged environment. As are many of the top programs around the country. But it just didn't never say it seemed like a lever was going to be long for that job. Especially after the situation involving men's basketball. Coach will Wade last month obviously into this month with his reinstatement. And so elite being out was not a surprise to think for me and those in the industry surprise came with Woodward taking this job not because he didn't have love for LSU or was it from Baton Rouge. But you know, the say an M situation at least from the outside looks a little bit more stable largely because of Scott Woodward than the one at LSU. Text say 'em has an established elite level football coach, JIMBO Fisher. They now bring in buzz Williams the coaster. Men's basketball program money has never been an issue there. So why leave that program for LSU where certainly at ores Ron had a nice year last year. But there's questions about him long-term. There's certainly a lot more questions about the men's basketball program. So that that was where the surprise was not so much that alita was out or moved to another part of the university. But that that Scott Woodward really wants to take on this challenge. LSU Adam based on the reporting that you, and you Jeff did I fear is an his strictly theory. But is it possible based on your reporting that this situation was reverse engineered that it was a situation worse. Scott Woodward made himself available, and then LSU could say, you know, what we got a chance to get the guy we want. Joe here's another job for you. We're not going to kick you out the door. But it just looks like a situation for whatever reason. Scott Woodward made himself available. Without a doubt tone, and you just have to look at the timing of the two announcements the Aleve announcement officially on Wednesday. And then you know this morning Thursday morning less than twenty four hours later, Scott Woodward's introduced as the new athletic director LSU's. This was certainly you've been around this industry for a while you understand these things often are set up in advance. And then obviously goes into effect in a fairly quick span. And that's what happened here. I don't know. I like I said, I don't think alita was going to be in this job for much longer. But the fact that you could replace him with somebody that everybody is going to be very excited about because of his ties to LSU. The fact he's been there before he went to school there. Scott Woodward, did and he's been successful athletic director, both at Washington and say that's going to get everybody excited. So absolutely. This was in the works for more than just a day or so and obviously went into effect on Wednesday atom, I've got to ask you just from the people that. That you talked to from Texas. What what is their mood? Obviously, they're not have two things. I picked up on the day from reading your stuff and others is that they're not happy, obviously that they're athletic director who had built all this stuff is leaving. But they are wondering how the powers that be above the director of athletics. How this could have been going on and them not know about it. The fact is Scott, what would he they they he took care of everybody in the Texas A&_M athletic department. But apparently based on what I'm hearing stuff. Nobody was quite looking after him. Sure. And that's the thing you bring in JIMBO Fisher for really an unprecedented type contract for a head coach you bring in buzz Williams for a lot of money on the basketball side. But ultimately, Scott Woodward didn't wanna stay there going forward. And so yeah, you look to your that. Another chancellor of the school, John Sharp is taking a lot of criticism today from fans certainly there could be others in that circle that maybe could have done more to make sure that Scott would Scott wanted to stay there. Long term versus going to another school in the league a rival as you outlined a team that you're gonna play every year in football as well as at least once a year in men's basketball. So that's always tough, Tony when I did a story last year about buyouts, and why this thing has gotten so out of hand with coaching by is I spoke to a lot of agents at one of the things they said to me consistently is the fear of losing coach to somebody in the league, motivates these boosters and these universe. Leaders do whatever it takes to keep that person on campus. Well, in this case, Scott Woodward has left and he's left to a very familiar school in LSU. And the only thing that would be worse is if he eventually takes JIMBO Fisher with them. I know that's a conversation point today thing that's a little bit more complex. But I know these schools hate to lose valuable pieces, especially within the league or they can hurt them competitively going forward. And oh, by the way item as we all know JIMBO Fisher's by out is zero. And and that that's why I've heard from Texas an inference, you know, they they're little nervous about that. Bit of nervous not not this year. Maybe not next year. But what three years down the road, the ordure on experiments simply doesn't work. They're worried about it. Right. And that's understandable. But you're three years in the SEC is you know, is about thirty years feels like that and so much can change in that time period. But I do think it's important for the Texas brass with its next athletic director to find somebody who can connect with JIMBO Fisher and try to make him as happy as possible for as long as possible. Let's not forget why JIMBO left Florida state. It wasn't a secret to those in the that he felt he wasn't getting enough support enough resources at Florida state. That's not changing now that Scott Woodward is no longer at Texas AM, they still have those resources. They still have those facilities. They still have a great salary pool to pay coordinators like Mike Elko on defense to recruit at a very high level. So until that changes, I think you have to wonder why JIMBO Fisher would wanna leave a really good situation. One that he's building up in college station to go to LSU. Certainly Scott Woodward is part of that equation. Certainly the fact that. He's worked there before. But I also think he wants to win and believes he can win at Texas. Am that's why he took the job. So I think that's going to be the fascinating part of this will the next athletic director connect with JIMBO Fisher. Or will? They'll be will. There be demands that aren't met because that's what happened at Florida state and would ultimately caused him to make the move to Texas AM. Well, I'm telling you right now, JIMBO Fisher had better get some input into who. His next boss is going to be they've got to do that on this which over to the the LSU side of this equation. I'm fascinated by Scott Woodward is walking in to a difficult situation. L the football equation is always a problem. But he's walking into a situation where he's got a men's basketball coach who just got reinstated who missed the NC double A tournament because he wouldn't cooperate with the university attorneys and investigators now this guy has been reinstated. If you're Scott Woodward what what are the Knicks steps in this? Honestly, I know there's a lot we don't know about. We'll wait. I guess he's to get from. Right. I think that the next few days in week are going to be very significant as you know, there's a new so that second trial involving college basketball and corruption is going to get underway. Most likely New York, very soon, and we'll see where this goes you have to let it play out if you're Scott Woodward. But certainly you're doing as much research on how damaging or not damaging these these reports around will wait are going to be for him long term. But as you know, athletic directors have to be prepared for anything. And I Scott Woodward has shown that he can handle, you know, coaching changes and coaching searches and and some of the drama that you have to deal with when you're leading a big time athletic department. So I think the next couple of weeks it'll be very interesting to see how he reacts, but he also may be very supportive of will Wade going forward if he feels like there's enough to to continue their obviously they had a great season on the. Court last year. But I think the the the next the next week or so is going to be very very interesting on the by you regarding the basketball program or Berg would always great stuff. Appreciate your reporting. We appreciate you being on with us today on the Paul finebaum show. Thanks, tony. I appreciate it. All right. Very good. Again, always great stuff from Adam Renton Berg, we're gonna take a break. Now. We'll come back. We're here to take your calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. This is Tony Barnhart sit in impo Paul finebaum. This is the Paul finebaum show. The tried passion then patrons three of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show our to podcasts. All right. We're back. Then let me tell you. What books? Does it get any better than Bruce Feldman? I mean, I I listen to that interview with all the other day. Just absolutely fascinating inside stuff that I love that offensive and defensive preciado power in the morning. I thought that was totally totally awesome. As Tony Barnhart sitting in for finebaum. And on that happy note, we're going to stay with you up until the seven o'clock hour. Let's go to Earl in Baton Rouge. Earliest is Tony Barnard. How are you, sir? Tony. How are you, sir? First time caller with thank you for calling. You know, we're we're kinda laughing here in Baton Rouge, which I now years ago, a guy by the name of Paul bear. Bryant made the statement mama has called and I got to go home that whale. It seems that the real momma called and said, Scott you've been going alone time, come on home. And he said, yes, ma'am, I'm on my way, because we're mama says momma goes in Louisiana. So just put your board that that is one of the he even made the statement. Why did you come to Baton Rouge? And he said my momma call so take it from there. I'm sorry. All these AM fans upset, but I sure him glad he's back. Have a good day, sir. I appreciate that look and Earls rice, a look, it's it. Listen life is all about timing. When when is it time to make a move? And then all of a sudden after building this juggernaut again at Texas am by getting the two coaches she wanted by getting JIMBO Fisher, but beginning buzz Williams by putting over four hundred and fifty million dollars into into Kyle field and make it make an into a palace. He knew that the job at LSU was gonna come open. I think everybody understand. Stood that Joel livas. Tom was limited. And after eleven years, that's that's a pretty good run for an athletic director. And I believe in Tom. We'll tell we'll see I believe the Scott Woodward. Let it be known that if the opportunity was there he was going to take advantage of it. So again, everything is about timing. Let's go to John in Atlanta. John, it's Tony Barnhart. How are you? I'm doing well. And I hope to Jill doing well. This Wilshire got a coupla observation Rick. There's an Florida I believe as is in a great opportunity has a great opportunity to represent the east this year. I think we bring back our heck of a lot of talent senior leading team. We can get some good offensive line play. I think we would be we can represent east. I've noticed the last two to three years those talking here is like you have picked Georgia to represent the east, and it's like a full dome conclusion that you guys think that Georgia and going to represent east. I know I live in Atlanta. And all I hear all the time is Georgia is like so close to Alabama. You know, maybe that's the problem. They need to just be themselves. That can only be one Alabama having said that though, I say this. I never bought into the narrow. That Florida was so far off when even when Jim mcelwain was there. It was a matter of coaching. It was a matter of we had talent is just a matter. Someone need to come and grab the program and take it to the next level. That's the type of close that we have. And then learn and I I truly believe Florida will kick the doors down this year. Not because of I I just think we got a lot coming back. I think Frank is going Franks is going to be amazing player. And that narrative that Florida has that you guys painted that we were three to four years off for whatever that was. I never bought that. I what we're doing. Now is what I've always thought we could do it should be doing with the right coach. And that's just my take. So I I know that you guys like pay in their Georgia's going to be there. But I just say get your popcorn. 'cause I don't think it's just go full on conclusion that Eugene as going to represent east. Well, you know, I agree with with most of what you said right now, I'm picking I'm picking an picking Georgia to win the east. But I have said that I do believe that Florida's closing the gap. I think Dan Mullen, again, Dan Mullen did as much with his roster as any coach in the conference again, they had won all SEC first team player one. They had to all the second team players. I thought Dan Mullen did a tremendous he has made Philippi Franks into a quarterback. I didn't think I didn't think Philippi was capable of coming that far. I'll admit that. And he has gotten better and better and better, and I talked to Dan Mullen last week, and he he thinks Felipe pay has learned how to block out the noise he he was overly concerned about what people thought of him. He had a moment. Like when he told the crowd hush. All right. I think fully bay Franks has matured, and you sit there and look at that group of Florida wide receivers would van Jefferson could area's Tony. And those guys they they got the weapon. If if the offense of line can get better that's the concern for the Gators EBay. And then these say this does I think the same players that were not making plays on the previous coats. They're making place. So that goes show. It isn't always about the five stars about coaching and having developing players maximizing their talents. You know? I five stars is important. But I would argue to say you get the right cokes. And the right system is amazing. How fast how program can can look over all that precedes. You're taking my boss for all. Right. I appreciate it. Let's take one more call quickly before we go to break. Let's go to Larry in Columbia. Larry I was in Colombia yesterday sitting down with coach, Jim. This is Dave cock lawyer told Columbia always wanted pump to telling about heart better than love is when I got started watching you on TV. Thank you. Larry. I I appreciate it. Are you are you excited about the Gamecocks? You think? Let me tell you this. Now, we got the Dame. I mean, we got Alabama Georgia. We got sons we got testers him Timothy and all on my schedule next year. Never tell you. We're gonna be talking about you said you said, Georgia, go windy. George room when the if you're our day, Costco, went to a. I just wanted to call and tell you on how can get a hold Powell. 'cause Paul I remember back when we came into e he wanted to one of out he said, we didn't belong in the lead. But after this there, we go show him, they'll Gamecocks. All right. Larry appreciate you, call it. A really really, you know, when I when I was at Columbia yesterday talking to coach much first of all they took me on a tour of their incredible new football silly to their fifty million dollar, and we had we had video of it yesterday. If you were watching the show, it is absolutely incredible. When I talked to coach much champy felt like they had begun to turn a corner. He he said, we weren't as accountable to each other as we should have been they had obviously a terrible finish against Clemson and Virginia, but they feel like with this new building the recruiting the coming in. They brought in some new coaches to help out particularly in the defensive side of the ball. They feel good about where. They are. But as our friend just said, the issue is the schedule and the schedule is absolutely brutal. So so we'll see what's going to happen to the Gamecocks. This is Tony bar. We'll be back in the next hour. Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul finebaum. This is the Paul finebaum show.

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There you go. I want to break it back door. So get it at Gill was the message in here. They go Watson goes down for this traffic. Are you kidding me? Sales. Waters Wetzel trying to keep Brown. The floor. Eleven time to grow mystery LSU regular season champions, the SEC. From the advocate. That's the paper in Baton Rouge. Without will Wade into stars focused LSU team did what it had to do to clinch the SEC title. The headline didn't quite tell the whole story. We will tell you exactly what happened after the game here shortly. We were all balls fall. At Auburn, you see Bruce Pearl's picture, and you think of that was a long time ago against their former coach the Volvo squander the share the SEC title. And maybe a number one seed in the tournament the NCWA tournament this time next week. We'll have the brackets ready for you. We'll be ready and waiting for the play in game. Will there be SEC schools in the play in game that to be determined probably Thursday in Nashville that's where we will be a little bit later in the week. But for now, we are right here in studio about to get to your phone calls. But before we do that. We'll talk a little bit about what's in store Vic Schaefer, does it again last year's two years in a row the national runner up. He's the SEC tournament champion was longtime coming South Carolina has owned that little tournament every year. But in an impressive win over Arkansas team, which by the way, shot a lot. People by getting as deep as they did playing Mississippi State yesterday afternoon. Meanwhile, sl dot com while the lost its latest landmark case battle over what schools can offer athletes. That's a preview of what we will be talking about a little bit later in this program. Guest list is ready to roll skied. Rabbi. He was there the other night as Joe alita. The Atlantic director at LSU got a rude awakening at its home arena. De'andre Baker the Thorpe reward winner heading to the first round. We'll talk to him about that. And we're member Vince. Well, nope. You're looking live at Brent Musburger with a new network a new job. But we'll talk to Brian about the good old days in what's what's in store with tournament. And Michael McMahon. Legal analysts for us. I Michael McCann is well he'll be with this after Michael McMahon. I don't even know who Michael McMahon is missing man is a wrestling promoter in about to be a football entrepreneur. Well, my name is not Vince. But it's Paul and we will be here for the next four hours and change taking your calls at eight five five four two seven two eight five we'll talk a little bit about the situation in Baton Rouge. And again there there is no way to sugarcoat how ugly that scene was on Saturday night, which should have been the greatest moment in recent LSU history. You had fans ganging up on the athlete director who really virtually had no role in anything other than being a steward of that program. Which is beleaguered right now with two players currently out. They may be back. We'll talk to Scott rabble about that head coach most do not expect to return and fans took out there and. Anger on Jo alita. We'll talk all about that. In the coming hours. Let's grab Harry in New Orleans. I up on a Monday good afternoon. Call skews throat, but I had to get into the three share. You take him a call. You bet with all the negatives. Spotting was the absence of Zion on the Alabama basketball declined the Tennessee, dip and all the only one way we can describe all this fall. I'm not agree with me, but to wear the ides of March. Yeah, the odds marcher coming in four days, and that's day that especially if you Julius Caesar Caesar still alive he may well be if you're Avery Johnson. You'd better beware of the ides of March too. Because you mentioned him, Harry, and it was on a program earlier today in Birmingham in the fans there on happy. There's virtually they're indifferent toward him. There's some thought that Greg burn the athletic director is under a little bit of pressure to make decision one way or the other. Meanwhile, they play against ole miss on Thursday afternoon and loss will easily eliminate them from the NCAA tournament and a win may not guarantee it so the crimson tide which was in the tournament a couple of weeks ago now. Has spiraled out of control under Avery Johnson. The once very popular coach whose popularity has vaporized. Well, I'm looking forward to Brent Musburger ball. And you have a good show today poll. Great to have you on. Thank you very much. Ronald is in Kentucky and your next up. Hey ronald. Then Martin all good afternoon. Ron always great to hear from you. How are you? My man. Well, I'm doing along fairly way or had cataract surgery. But that went, okay. Well of all the things you've told me that may be the only thing I've been able to personally relate to it's not it's not fun. But it's better than some of the other things you've been going through and. Harrow? How do you way the significance of Travis in the success of Kentucky and SEC tournament? Paul. I think I think they could probably win the SEC without him. I don't think they can win the the the big title without him though. You know, he is so simple to that team. Yeah. And it's I sure hope becomes round hopefully, it'll be ready with SEC tournament. But I'm pretty sure that the coach is not gonna play unless he's absolutely convinced that he's okay. But he keeps saying that. He's gonna rely on Travis to tell him. So we'll see. Yeah. That's always a tough call. We've been following his ion situation. I mean that was I I mean, I think he played last week. But you know, we're we're we're Kirch K wants to do is integrate him into the lineup in tournament atmosphere. So he's definitely ready for a week from Thursday or Friday as opposed to this week. But I think in techies in great shape, they are now on the on the one seed line because Tennessee's law. And I think if they you know, they'll they'll they'll play the winner of ole miss Alabama. I believe on Friday night, and they don't need to do too much national meal one win. And I think they're they're going to remain a one-seat. I think I think Cal is made enough noise about that. Absolutely unrelated to that. I've always been fascinated with the career of Charles Barkley. He wasn't seven foot tall. But my Lord he had an he had a presence, and he was really an effective basketball player. Well, I remember I covered the beginning of his career. And what's interesting Ron is. He was he was not even heavily recruited narrow now he was looking to go to UAB which was in right right near his hometown of leads, which is outside of Birmingham and a couple of scouts went to see him play a much more highly regarded player, Bobby Lee, her to believe the number one player in the state from Huntsville and these scouts went to a Christmas tournament and Barkley had barely been on the radar screen. This was a nineteen eighty one or two I can't remember the year. And I think Eighty-one and Barkley so dominated the number one player in the state. All these scouts said. I gotta get this guy. So we ended up going Auburn because it was nearby. But but Ron he he he emerge. I remember covering some of his games in college. I it took him a while because he was still I'll tell you one quick story before we go I covered I covered Auburn playing a game in Houston one night in after the game. I got a knock on my door in the hotel. I'm staying at the same hotel, and it was a pizza delivery guy. Maybe Pizza Hut. Whatever it was and he had like three or four pizzas. Now my going. I didn't order the pizzas first of all at the time. I couldn't have afforded a three or four pizzas. And so I'm sorry. He said, you know, you know, somebody named Barclay. I sit down the hall Barca. I mean Barclay ate his way through the SEC is first year. They finally got onto lose a little bit of weight as he got closer to his junior year. Hey, thanks for the call. Really do appreciate we're up against the break. We will go to Baton Rouge and just meant it and find out about. But the LSU Tigers they're still projected to go very high in the tournament. But will there will they have a head coach? And we'll have a couple of players will find out next to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. 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Now before the wiretap story came out and ask you, and and have you described us what the level of concern about will wage future was at the time. I mean, knowing that he would appear at that at that trial in New York. But was there a great concern that this thing would blow up? No, I I don't think. So to the extent that did which would lead to a suspension coming from LSU? Now. I mean, this has been a concern since the fall when his name first came out there. And you know, he was asked about it at SEC basketball mediais. You know, what what police ship you have Christian Dawkins? And so this has been kinda simmering, and you know, yes, this is coming after the season. But you kind of figured certainly he's going to be coaching the team and they're going to get through the tournament. Then you see where the chips fall of that point. But they would come to a head with with this huge story with these this wire step conversations with him undocking, and then LSU wasn't to talk, and then he won't talk. And so that leads to VIP suspending him. I don't think anyone saw that that was coming. No. So that that's definitely is definitely wretched wretched from about probably about a seven level of concern to attend sky. What's what's your best guess on? Why he didn't talk to LSU officials after he does work for them. He has some obligation will more than some to respond to their questions. But what's the reason you understand why he would not talk? On the face of it. It's you know, the advice of his his legal counsel that he that. He shouldn't talk. A and then then that. Yeah. He is. He feels you know from what I gather that that all stories come out. You know, he said, so you kind of said that the statement after the suspension was announced, and I think he was trying to he's probably seeing somebody other situations like with Bruce Pearl like, you know, you know, saying, hey, I'm not talking me about this investigation. Probably didn't think is going to come to that it probably thought he probably thought he had a little better leverage to stand on. And that he could still go forward and just kind of you know, keeping giving his mouth shut for now. And the I would imagine he was a little bit surprised that the that they she took the action of the did. But I, you know, it certainly is certainly looks bad in terms of you know, it looks like trying not incriminate yourself. Scott the question everyone's asking now, it's a pretty good one considering he's not coaching in the SEC tournament. Your belief. Whether he will or won't is will Wade coming back to LSU to be the head coach. I I don't think it's impossible. And I I don't think it's impossible yet Paul for him to coach in the SEC tournament. And quite honestly, I think the next couple of days we'll tell I think they wanted. They wanted to find way to keep him think they wanna find a way to forward with this. And even if they suffer, you know, some short term L V LSU. So I, you know, short term hits which which they are doing, and obviously no they do that. But I think I think it's still possible. But I wouldn't say probable I'd say, you know, but I wouldn't completely rule it out like he's like he's never ever going to coach again. But you know, there has to be a reestablishment of trust. And and and you know, some getting on the same page with LSU, and we'll wait that that probably doesn't exist right now. But I, you know, it's I I think they feel like they have a good coach. I mean. People. Get tired tired here hearing saving references. The kind of feel like they have a young Nick Sabin in in in in basketball sense. You know, someone who's energetic and demanding and attention to detail and and has recruited. Well, however, you recruits came to be at LSU, of course. But and I think they'd like to to work with him. But you know, we'll we'll he want to stay in work for them. Will will they even be able to, you know, once the trial happens. That's that's something. They can't be said at this point, Scott. I realize we don't know everything. But from what we think we know why would LSU want him to remain as the head basketball coach based on on those transcripts, which are as you know, incredibly incriminating. Yeah. Based on what we know that. That's what makes it tough. I it's you if there's more to the story that we don't know or he saying, you know, he he's he's going to try to convince them that it's not as bad as it seems. You know, I I think I I don't I can't say, I know everything either. But I get a sense talking to people that that the that there's more to than what has come out in the who sports stories, and what we read read from the transcripts, and now what would that could be? I don't know. But I'm just saying from you know, is I'm leaving something out here that I just don't know. But I just get a sense from from the way people are talking that that that the maybe more to that they see a way that they could they keep the doesn't seem evident to to on the outside. You know, that's over mentioned that question. Well. Let's okay. We we're not gonna be able to clear that one today. Obviously. Let's let's let's try to figure out what happened Saturday night. You were there. Take us through the scene after the game. And especially the crowd's reaction. We'll understand anything like it. I e no this is a team that had already wanna share the SEC championship by the time. They took the court because Auburn beat Tennessee. And so now they've got that they've got the SEC tournament number one seed locked up, you know, we'll wait not gonna play that. Of course. Jon, smart, smartest ruled out the nozzle read is being held out which looked a little suspicious, but he didn't take did take a very hard shot to the mouth and the Florida game. And and this Tony Benn for the interim coach said today that they're they're hoping to find out today that that he can play in the SEC term at us spec. He would. But when you know, the the the arena was full. The and of course, the signs everywhere. Free will Wade, and we support coach weight, and all of a sudden Billy Joel leave the student's section across the arena from the other end of the the joint lever walking, which I didn't think it was a wise move on his part, and it just started booing and just you just aim to all their other vitriol at him. And I think he kind of be kind of went somewhere else in the second half. But. I think people need to understand a little bit Paul the the atmosphere here over the last several months, and this goes back to the Texas infant game people here think that their team got screwed in Texas stadium game by some of the calls. You're the NFC championship game which do with LSU, of course. But people say the the saints screwed in that game the whole Anthony Davis saga going on. And now, you have this thing we we have coach and he's winning. And they they fear that he is getting ripped away from and people have just had enough and the right? The wrongly people fans here have just had enough, and and they're just fed up, and they just focused all their anger and animosity onto one guy. They could see who was Joe alita FDA Alexander. The president was also there, but they didn't he he wasn't making himself an obvious target. So didn't give him a hard time. But it was it was something like I've never seen before the mixture of anger and celebration in defiance than that LSU fans. Of course, every fan base. To hold onto their coach these situations, and they'll rally around him until the bitter end. Listen, I Joe leave at defend himself. But I am still am begging on you for some help here. Trying to understand why fans would use expletives directed toward the athletic director when this decision to suspend. We'll wait at least on the short term was was not even not even a challenging decision. I mean, this was made at the highest level of the institution. And I doubt Joel Aleve. Made the decision by his by himself. I I really just for the life of me don't understand that type of behavior. And you're right. I mean, it I I think LSU made the decision they had to make raw stone jar former co colleague who who works, I which Australia. I wrote a story looking at Wade's contracts, and they fired for insubordination for being willing to talk. Clearly, they don't want to do that out of hand, you know, right now. But yeah, no. It was it was the decision they they had to make. And I think, you know, right. Minded people say that. But this, but you know, leave is not a popular figure to begin like a lot of athletic directors. But particularly this one is not helped himself through the years with a lot of PR decisions going back to the Duke lacrosse scandal. And certainly going back to the, you know, the the the whole thing with the Florida game with a hurricane game with with Florida from a couple of years ago that led them to have to reread the schedule and and things like that. So. A lot of I think I think that's a lot of those people in the arena. Okay. We'll wait to go. We'll wait has to go. If he takes if you take your leave and asking Alexander with them, would you would you accept that package deal? And I would say, yes. Well, Scott, thank you. I could ask you a thousand more questions, but I don't unfortunately for everyone. I don't think we have any of the answers. So we'll just leave it there. We appreciate you being on very very much. Thanks see in Nashville. Maybe will it'll be different things to talk about hope. So thank you very much got so. Yup there. Okay. It's gotta rabble. A again, you know, I'm not blaming Scott. I don't think anyone really knows the answers. I sat here though, listening to him thinking how the university could figure out a way to bring. We'll Wade back now is somewhat beyond my my ability to to to free associate. But. But hey, I've seen I have seen crazier things. But that would be among the craziest not that. I know that not that. I know anything. In relation to. We'll wait the not out there. But. Whether you like the guy or not whether I think he used a phrase a young Nick Sabin. I never remember Nick Sabin getting caught up and if the wiretaps. We'll take a short break. Mortem more conversation about this. The Andre Baker later on your phone calls are next to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Cried packing, then patterns re of college. Football leaves Keer is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Welcome back. Your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. Let's continue with more calls and Lynn is in Allentown. Go right ahead. Hey lamb. Hey. Good afternoon. Paul get f-. Glad to take. Have you take my call? I have a question. I'm concerned about the Tennessee vols as you. And I spoke before now with the girls would their lousy performance the SEC tournament and the possibilities of not getting into the NC double A tournament. Where is the thinking about the coaching? Well, I think unfortunately, or fortunately when they're in a they're suspended on the dark side of the moon at the moment because. They they they won one game. And they lost to LSU last Thursday. They would have been out of the tournament by winning that game. Even though they were beaten badly the next game. They are still theoretically alive. In fact, the projections have them sneaking in the back door of the NC double A tournament getting perhaps the last at large bid if Arkansas had won the SEC tournament, they probably would have been eliminated. So I so Phillip Fulmer in a position right now where he has to wait at least until next one is the the women's selection show next Monday next Monday. So he almost has to wait until then before he can take a breath because even though the two of us don't think getting into turnament for the Tennessee lady vol's is a big deal winning the tournaments a big deal. Not getting in happened every year in fairness, probably to the competitive nature of his program. He probably can't do anything until then. Do you think the alumni and all the other people that are pushing for her to get out would be enough or is in that going? I don't know. I think if they get into turnament, it makes the case more difficult, even though very little has changed. But and then what you do is you say, okay. Well, they're in the tournament. Maybe the win a couple of games, they probably won't. But I I would be surprised if anything happens right now unless Holly Warlick with a weekend off and really kind of a week to do nothing. I mean, there's only I mean, there's not a whole lot. You can do right now. Other than have basketball practice and run around in circles because you do not know what your next to game is. And and it's not going to be at least for ten days. I mean, that's where you hope that maybe she has conversations with the administration and decides on her own to step down. I mean, I have I have friends who are ardent supporters of that program. Like, you are right. And their hope is that she steps down not that she gets fired not that she continues. But that she on her own says, you know, what I'm going to step down. What what kind of arrangement came? We make. Good question. You you've seen some games? I'm sure you've seen a couple over the last year. Does it appeared to you? And I also by the way, I officiate. Okay. I don't do college. But I do high school. Okay. And I'm watching the way these girls play or don't play. And I get the impression that they don't really wanna play for her. I mean, I might be dead wrong. I think you I don't know how you can watch those games and come to any other conclusion grit. I'm glad that you. And I agree. Because like I said I've been roughing for forty years. Now, you listening. It doesn't matter. What their coach, you know? You know, what's going on? When you you do. And and I don't think I think it's a really a it's a it's a it's a conundrum that nobody really wants. But they have. And and the problem is, okay. Let's say Tennessee gets into tournament even say winning game. They're not gonna win many games. Now with the now with the confusion that that program that team has and you're the enthusiasm for next year is Neil short of some incredible run here where everything changes and you've seen it you've seen teams back into a tournament. I mean I've seen teams as you have in college. Go from the go from the play in games to the final four. But the likelihood is pretty slim. Right. You're you're under percent, correct. But I'm just wondering also or the players any of them. Is there any word down in narrative, Tennessee that they might want to transfer out? I have not heard that I really haven't. But but I think it's a little. A bit early and might be. I mean, I'll tell you. This has been a season to forget terrible. By the way, last year wasn't very good either. No, I'm saying the last couple of. Yeah. It's I mean, trend lines are really bad. He thanks for the call. Do. Appreciate it. Glad to have you on. And let's continue John is in Tennessee to John. Go right ahead. Hey, call how we are doing great. Thank you. Thank you for taking my call talked about Tennessee means basketball the second. And if I have time if not okay, I'd like to respond to LSU home or you had on there. But as far as the men's basketball, you know, since I moved to thirty four years ago. We'll concede been lucky to get to the MIT tournaments in sub the in tournament. So I just wanted to say thank you to rig ball to Barnes and staff and all the members of the vol's teams, go filled Alexander grant Lee and bound in the rest, you know, for all the entertainment everybody this this year. And it looks like, you know, in the red shirts they have on the sideline in recruiting that we're going to be in the talk for years to come. No doubt. You know? I it's it's it's still hard to believe what a great job Rick has done. And I think you know, my hope is they have really deep run in this tournament. I think they will based on what we've seen for the last four months, but I think everyone's pretty eager to see what happens in national and especially Sunday night. When when when the brackets come out why you know, you know, like, I said, you know, it looks like, you know, with the the ridge search the here he had a couple of good red shirts being sincere and then recruiting class coming in. And then he has committed for twenty twentieth. Just looking like it's just gonna keep going to respond to the gentleman from LSU loose talk about the LSU program. Right. It is seemed like he was really biased towards LSU. And I just don't see how you can the intake can look over what he did in. Then you know, that Laremy Tunsil thing. You'll miss punish them the way. They did. And punish Missouri. And then let this the wall, you know, and let him continue coaching. This doesn't seem fair to me. What what do you think about that? Yeah. Listen, I I've been a newspaper columnist in the past. So he he may know things I don't know. He certainly representing a view down there. But I I see the whirlwind thing through a much different prison. I can't I can't believe that. I know one thing. If if I were in charge and the guy was in the guy short of a guy coming to me and proving to me that that tape was manufactured. I'd fire him on the spot. Agree. I mean, it's a shame that if the has to get involved in college sports just to keep things on the up. And remember remember, the FBI didn't didn't come in here to clean up the NC double A? I mean, this was a much bigger fraud. They were investigating between the shoe companies, and coaches, but yeah, I I've I've wondered about this case from the beginning I've tried to ask some questions along the way to be probative. But no one has seemingly really cared about it and part of part, partly because we'll wait is a is a likable character. And we had him on recently. And you don't I mean, the guy I think we had him on right after beating Kentucky. And I mean, you just don't want to rain on the parade as long as everything seems to be going. Well, but things are not going very well right now what we're up against the break. More phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five lot more to go on a Monday afternoon. Stick around and listening to Paul finebaum show. Shield podcast universal. But pride passion, then patron Torri of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Check in with Bruce in Florida. Hey, Bruce, welcome to our program. Hello. We are doing. Well. Thank you. Well, thank you for taking my call. And I miss Joel the last week whenever the SEC tournament was going on. But I'm glad you're back on the day. Yeah. It happens. Sometimes when we have live events that. We we disappear. We're always on radio. We have we don't have a lot more interruptions this week. We will we'll be we'll be we'll be around most of the week as as the game. Even while the games are going on. But I apologize for that. There's not much we can do about it. Yes, sir. I won't talk about Florida basketball us now the limits program their their coach, I don't know how much the hot seat he might be on because they haven't done deal. No. But the wheels are. Might white. He's I think he's done a great job with what he has here. One thing about Mike white teams. I mean, they are losing these these critical games, although they did win at LSU. But I mean, they were in these games to watch some of the Kentucky game Saturday. And I mean, they fight hard. They're just outmanned right now. I think he's a very good coach. I'm with you one hundred percent on that. Yes, sir. Include new got hurt. He was he was a big, man. He was going to be a real good player force this year that really hard our team. I don't know if you know the. Yeah. I do listen. Unfortunately for Florida their in a desperate situation on on Thursday. They play Arkansas which is suddenly become a hot team. They win that game. I think they're going. They're going to be okay. But a loss Thursday, and they will likely be out of the tournament on a scale of one to TNT and being the most likely if they beat Arkansas, what is your prediction? I would say that they're going to be in the tournament. Don't k- a sound. I think I think that game is is as much of a play in game for them. Now, the Alabama thanks for the call the Alabama games a little bit different Alabama, beating ole miss a team had beat by double digits. A couple of months ago will probably not vault them in Alabama would have to be Kentucky. I mean, Alabama has just been a disaster lately Florida has lost against the criminal. Cram with the exception of Georgia that was a bad loss a very bad loss fill as a Nashville. Hey, Phil taking my call. And before you being here smashed field to get there. Gary question for you. I don't against or not. But this coach here. Vanderbilt Bryce, drew nice guy. But he's got a good recruiting class. Come in supposedly now, Mark what do you think the vendor will keep him on for another year? Or do you think this time next week? They'll be looked for another coach. So I think they will keep him based on the injuries in special circumstances. Another reason why believe they will keep him is they have a brand new athletic director. And that's not something new AD wants to do is replace a coach he did not hire. I mean, these these this has been the worst season anyone can remember. But I believe he'll get another chance. That's just a in opinion. I may know more once we get to Nashville Wednesday. And by the way, we will be doing our shows Wednesday Thursday and Friday from Nashville, I realized games are going on sometimes even while we're on, but we'll be here. Anyway, always an alternative under. If you want to watch the games Milly is up next. What did you say Millie? I'm happy to see you this kind of a crock when you weren't on last week. I was upset about it in got upset when I when my teams I wanted Ella. Bam and Missouri to really come on up. But they both didn't. So I don't know who else do who else. Do you think that has a chance? Well, I would say I would certainly think Kentucky and Tennessee are very good bets and Auburn in LSU or not bad a couple of other teams as well. Yeah. Well, anyway, I heard what you were talking about missed this, Mr. Wade with Scott and about all the problems and the problems that happened in the in the arena, so to speak, and I'm kind of afraid when you. You use the f word. With a preposition after it, or or a pronoun pronoun, excuse me. My my grammar isn't very good to talk about your athletic director. I I think I think you got some issues on your on your campus, aren't you afraid and knowing some of the people who are at the games and everything with people taking in carrying weapons these days, you afraid that somebody's going to get really angry and. Much where you're taking a weapon into a. Sporting event these days, they do have screeners Milli. I know when I went down to that game in Tuscaloosa, I was stunned. I mean, we don't have anything like that here in Rolla. Usually at any college or pro game. I don't know about high school games. But even high school games, there's some security in. Thank goodness. There is. Yeah. Anyway, I'm happy that you guys are all safe and sound too. Because with all the storms that have been happening in your neck of the woods. I listen compared to what happened in Lee county last week. We're all very fortunate. I thought that was quite a scene there Friday with the president and his entourage visiting the people down there, and it's it's just very sad desperate situation that hopefully we'll be getting better in the coming days. We have three more hours to go. Hope you'll stick around listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried pack then patterns re of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Welcome to the end of the week. It is Friday. Good Friday and hope everyone's having a very, restful and peaceful holiday. Good afternoon to you. We have a lot going on when we got here. Monday afternoon. The whole world was talking about Tiger Woods, and one would have thought if you look ahead to the end of the week that would still be the big topic. But what a week this has been think about what has happened in this week. I'm only scientists I've because you all have a tendency to make somebody star it is what it is. Let's don't go down that road after one spring game reacting to the decision by Joel livas reinstate. We'll wait we'll waive Bali why dump it and LA. You know, Pete is done by done that back in around March. Ninth percents coulda Coachella two in the tournament. But what about Rick Barnes? He was leaving. If they have found a better solution on his buyout. You want your coach to be that on St. want to hear that? Maybe this isn't his dream job. A liba is heading toward the door. This comes in the aftermath of a meeting last night between the board of supervisors till ironic that after waited reinstated as you say leave the one that's going LSU had a new athletic record and Scott with. I've always felt like he was gonna leave the wouldn't have to do with money. So that was a wake and it's not over yet. There are some new headlines even today fairly quiet day for most people am has named Archie Slocum coach they once fired. As the interim f let it direct replacing Scott Woodward, who of course was announced official yesterday for. LA shoe? We don't really know what will happen next are see certainly they suitable interim choice. Most people believe that AM. We'll go out and bring in current athletic director to fill that spot on a permanent basis. Meanwhile, Baton Rouge. We'll wade. Unlikely to testify over the wiretaps in the big case next week that could save his job many feared Wade fans feared that if he was on a witness, Dan under oath telling the truth about what was reportedly on that tape. It would be keep it would be difficult to keep his job though, that may not be the case any longer because. Most people in Baton Rouge are willing to look past. What's on that tape? We'll Scott Woodward. The new athletic director be willing to that is the question. You all curvy smart some comments earlier today on the new transfer portal. I don't know what I don't know if that is right for college football. He had a lot to say about that. And this is what it sounded like. I don't know that it's right for CASA ball, and I agree with you. It may be good for an individual basis. But when you give kids and people and easy way out sometimes sometimes they take the path of least resistance, and I'm of the belief you gonna say we'll coach you're free to go where you'd like to go. We also have a contract, and therefore you fire us anytime we won't. So they can fire us anytime. They want us an assistant coach, whereas for student athlete to say that they should be able to go anywhere. I I really believe kick graduates. Now, he should be able to go anywhere. He wants to go, even okay? If he's been there three years because that probably means that he's been there long enough to realize I can't can't play but giving kids away out when early on it's tough and the process is hard. That's the biggest problem. I have a guy can go to one school and then a year later decided to go somewhere else and a lot of times. That's not what's best for you. And you can say it's not my job to determine what's best for him. But at the end of the day, I've seen a lot of kids leave and they realize. The grass is not greener. But I do think quarterbacks unique physician, and I certainly understand it's different. But a lot of these other positions kids just go because that's what they didn't act school. I didn't have immediate success. I just go to the next place. And that hasn't always proven to be best for kids. Curve smart, the spring, and meanwhile, there's some lay breaking news from Alabama that Nick Sabin will undergo surgery to have his right hip replaced on Monday that just being confirmed. Lau Cain who is the team orthopedic surgeon long, Jim Andrews will perform the surgery save an of course is sixty sixty. It'd be sixty he'll be sixty seven sixty eight in October. He said he'd been struggling with one of his hips. And even though they don't make them like they used to most players would not be able to performance spring practice. Like I did with a similar situation. He is decided to get it taken care of moose estimates are that it takes between six and eight weeks to recover fully that doesn't mean you can't get around. But one would think the coach savings normal very active lifestyle will be her tailed at least during the next six. Eight weeks which will end in around early June. So that's the latest headlines. We'll get to your phone calls in a moment at eight five five two four to seven to eight eight five Glenn Gilboa in the latest from. Baton Rouge, where the betting line is changed pretty dramatically in the last couple of hours about will Wade survival most gave him very little chance. But now that he will not have to appear. We don't think in this case in New York, he will likely survive, but with how much damage my Griffith on the Georgia spring game a little bit later on Dr Harris STD's, he's the president of the university of South Carolina. He will join us with an important message. In the wake of some terrible news that occurred in Columbia, South Carolina recently. And we'll spend a lot of time on the AM situation as well. Your phone calls at eight five five to four two seven two eight five eight five five to four to seven to eight five lines are open. Now just want to thank Tony Barnhart for being here yesterday. I spent all of yesterday in Gainesville working on a project and had the opportunity to spend time with coach coach, Dan Mullen in his office. So yesterday morning had a really great conversation with him. And then later in the day likewise with Steve Spurrier who in his new office at the university of Florida with HP see on the outside. He had all of this famous trophies and national championships and football's from important games, including one a couple of weeks ago against Memphis, the Orlando Memphis game one by Orlando. And on the football. It said af champ. Steve Spurrier, even though the league folded, even though they cleared. Bankruptcy is claiming an eight one record in a league championship to round out his career, and he did say I ever tired, and I'm not coaching anymore. So we'll see about that. More phone calls beginning now at eight five five to four to seven to eight five Matt go right ahead. Did not answer Selley go. Right ahead. You're next. Hey, how you doing good? Thank you. Appreciate you. Take him on uncle is my first time calling show. Wonderful. Thank you. I'd actually like to shake it up a little bit and talk about ISIS. See baseball, actually, real quick a lot of people may not realize this. But we really do have like the best conference in entire country baseball, and he gets us little ones like vandy Tennessee's in better this year. And you got all miss and all of them. But like if he's name Mississippi State like and how good they are tell us like you see their second in the nation right now last year, obviously, if you paid attention they made the run all the way, they it a. Cultural series semi's, and they got him guys. And I'd like to key in particularly on one of them because I played in high school with him. Jesse FOSS Q is the guy that doesn't get advertise a lot that he's one of the best kids you could you could be around. It's like how hard he works. Always. He right now is hitting like three fifty in the ACC. And that's crazy. And he's got like him home runs. Mets third in the conference. He simply whole life where he never was Allen to everybody else. But he always worked so much harder. Like he was the guy who get up at three in the morning and go work out give hitting the cage and to do whatever it had to do to get better. And he took some big bets on himself. He was offered like a full ride scholarship to some some other places. But he said, no, I'm better than that. And that was like a big risk that he took it and that paid off for him. And I think in any sport that that's a big deal for people. So I think. Like, he could he could be better than he is totally. Thank you very much. I really do appreciate around. We're up against a break. However guest coming up going Guilbeault the latest on will Wade from Louisiana. Story that won't go away. Glenn will be here to share his views in the latest news right after this. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. We welcome. You back. Glad you're with us. And Gwen Gilboa joining us as always Glynn so much has happened. It seems like every time we talk another bomb has gone off. Let's start if you don't mind with will weigh the news today that that he is not going to be compelled to testify. What do you know about that? And and what does it mean for his at least short term future? At LSU. Well, I think it's good news for we'll wait. But it's it's not as significant as as people think it as if you remember when he was first when word I happened that he may be subpoenaed to testify that was in February. And he he didn't get in any trouble with LSU over that. He was suspended a few weeks later in March because of the comments from FBI wiretaps in the sports story, and those comments still remain very damaging to him, and the NCAA is still going to investigate and and the and he's still involved in that FBI pro but mainland the NCAA now he's been have to testify, but you know, you may not have even had to testify about his recruiter. So that's that's kind of a side like that. He said he's gotten out of this the most important thing with him remain. The Danny comments he made in the story. I get to the next level of that. And that's the emergence now of Scott Woodward as the athletic director realized nobody knows what he's thinking. At least. We don't know what he's thinking in relation to will. Wade. But let's let's hear from you about the week. That was in Baton Rouge. The overthrow of a lever. Not not a surprise. Scott Woodward, joining the LSU athletic department, which did catch many people by surprise. Yeah. I think you know, we talked about a lever last time I was on the show. And I thought a leave of his contract would be extended and he would be done in about a year his contract ends in June of two thousand twenty. I thought you know, they exit him a little earlier than that like six months down the road. So they have time to find somebody, but they did this much quicker, and I can tell you this is this is separate of the entire will wait situation in basketball, this this has been coming on for a while. Donors for two supervisors men members. People closed LSU have been growing in numbers against the leave of he's been there. A long time ten years. It was time for him to retire said, Richard Lipsey who began tiger athletic foundation, and major donor. He had grown tired of Joe alita separate of the will wait situation. And I think what would my apotheosis is. What really tipped this to happen? Now is Scott Woodward became available, and I would bet Scott Woodward didn't wanna wait a year or six months to take over and wait for Jolie to end his contract. I think Scott would wanted to take over now. And I think that's part of what happened. Glen, you're pretty plugged into on there. How do you think this came about? I know that he took the job. But I mean, how how deep does his roots go there, and I'm assuming pretty deep, and and how were they able to pull this off? And then they seem to the seemingly did it. Without anyone knowing what was going on. Exactly. And that never happened around. Phil issue often. You know, we find out what they're doing while they're doing before they're doing it. Because they they can't keep a secret, you know, word leaked out that Mike Archie was going to be fired weeks before he was back in nineteen ninety. You know, word leaked out that Joe Aleve wanted to buy Joel liba that then they wanted to fire less miles a few years ago, and you could be more efficient when you work plan destiny. And that's what L S you did this time and LSU made sure they had Scott Woodward coming then they fired Joe elite or or head them resigned. That's more efficient than fire in your guy. And then going for somebody you get your guy. I then then you move your personnel. We asked you at the beginning what it means for. We'll wait. And I think that is to be determined. But even though the seems unfair to bring it up. I will at orange Ron was hired by Joe Aleve. We know what? Scott Woodward has done in the past, especially at am with two coaches that he inherited what does it mean to doors, Iran? Well, I would be a lot more nervous if I'm real weight than if I'm that. Okay. At ores, Ron it's not in any sort of NPA trouble at all. And he's coming off a great season in which he wasn't suspended during that season. He spent his top six is recruiting going great. His offense. Looks like it might be improving. So, you know, fancy question coaches always would rather their athletic director who hired them or chancellor who hired them be there while they're still coaching. But I don't I don't think coach Jones is is in any kind of trouble because switching athletic directors. I mean from Riva lasted another five years and owes Kodjo started losing, you know, leave it would fire him. So, but I do think, you know, Wade's got a new sheriff in town to to look at his issues. He's the one who should be worried. Okay. Let me let me let me follow up on that as we wrap up. We we've been waiting for today because we would find out today whether or not he testify if he testified then next week was really the benchmark moment. Many believe so now with a new AD who will be formally introduced next week. What are the the key dates to keep in mind or to watch in relation to will wage future? I would say the key thing now for way, he doesn't have to worry about testifying in a trial. That's that's true. But remember this. He was not in any trouble and LSU when he first had testified when that first came out he's used that as an excuse his first lawyer used that as an excuse. So he wouldn't have to talk about the verisign comment. He made in the Yahoo story. That's really why he used that subpoena as a as a recent he just didn't wanna talk about it could've talked about it because he talked about it last week when he still could have test the buck because he got a new lawyer doing he was doing with the NCAA. Okay. But to answer your question. The next thing is is when the NCAA gets around to investigating continuing its investigation and ruling on the sports revelations in if there's any more revelations by that's that's the next thing for we'll wait. The continuation and conclusion of the ongoing investigation of his recruiting. Is there any way to handicap it? I would say, you know, in the short term. He's all right. Just kind of like showing Miller, you know, the new strategies, you I I heard you say this recently, the new strategy toward the NCAA is to is to ride it out. I don't think schools fear, the NCAA like they used to you know, they'll cross that bridge when they get to it. And and there's there's a bunch of other schools involved too. So it might be years before they actually get to will wait. Glenn? Thank you very much busy week in patent Rouge. And it's not over yet. Well, it's over for a little while I think, but you know, Scott Woodward is just a slam dunk high or this. This is the best hire LSU's made athletic since they hide Nick say this, you know, he really should have been hired as a D back in two thousand eight when they hire Jolley, but where he was AD at at Washington. So this was a surprising move by LSU because it makes so much. Many thanks going. We'll talk to you very soon. I'm sure thank you very much. Okay. Going give joining us with some interesting comments there. And I think most people agree LSU's had a series of terrible hires in many different worlds it. It would seem to reason that one of the worst hires the schools ever made was Joe Aleve as director we are up against a break. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five more to come on. Good friday. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We welcome you back. More phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five BRUCE'S in Florida, and you are on the air. Hey, bruce. Hi, how you doing today? We are great. Thank you very much. I just wanna policy is to you for yesterday. I had all that teaches of coming up to the stadium and meeting you but Myanmar I run longer than I thought it was going to and then I had to make a decision whether to go meet you or go to my son's ballgame. So I chose the ladder. Of course. Well, I'm glad you you got through the MRI. And so your kids game. But we had a great time in Florida, as you know, it was a cool eighty nine ninety degrees down there. And it was great to feel the sun again. Yes, sir. And I is is real windy. We had some stores this morning, but it's still turn out to be another beautiful day. What what's your opinion now, Florida? Did it change any after you interviewed? Yeah. I tell you what. One thing I came away from was a lot of confidence, and and that's not unusual being around, Dan Mullen. But he he is confident I think he feels. Things changing and I'm not ready to to make the call yet. But they feel like they've got a really good team down there. Yes. Are you feel like they're dark darkhorse yet? Yeah. I think so I mean, I just personally I don't think they're quite ready to take to to not Georgia off. But I I would say this. They're pretty close. I'll watch the youngest caller you've ever had on. What I think we've had five or six year old calling in. I don't think I don't think we've had a younger than that. I've got a three year old wants to say, hey, well, let's let's break the record right now. Bruce, go ahead. Hey, hey, buddy. What's your name? Oh. Charlie. Thank you a what's going on. What are you doing today? We're facing fishing. Holly is is brother got him. My fourteen year old got him a rod and reel, and we're going up to a foreign bond and these a patient alternate. We'll Bruce thanks hope. Hope the test won't. Well, you guys have a great time today. All right. Thank you. You got a good to hear from you. Thank you, very very much. Don is up next in Mississippi? Hello, don. How you doing? Good friday. Good friday. Thank you. Yes. My my question or my answer. What I've tried to get a is. How does the man leave a prominent college and one conference to go to another one when your house there's a head prominent person? I am talking about Bobby bowing being house or that. I would say he was ousted by JIMBO Fisher. Don, let's set some context there JIMBO is hired as a coach in waiting for Bobby Bowden. Bobby Bowden continued to coach many people believe past when everyone thought he would step down. And ultimately, I don't think JIMBO cost him his job. I think Bobby Bowden's a in Bobby Bowden's last couple years, we're pretty pretty bad. But hell he won't it. After after it was over it JIMBO took over. He he come out and said that I'll he asked for was one year. He wouldn't go do nothing to sidestep for you know, hurt, JIMBO. But they did it the way I understand it JIMBO was the one that started eased him out of that job. And then he's going to tell everybody when he was going bad at Florida state hanging the guys good, and he'd be trade the trader and they don't listen. No. Let's let's talk about the facts. Okay. Jimbo Fisher didn't cost Bobby Valentine his job. We're I'm telling you good. Your feet don't leave. What what what tell you what Bobby Bowden's last five years? They were eight and five seven and six seven six nine four, and it was six years and and seven and six JIMBO Fisher took over anyone a national championship. Bobby was not going to win a national championship. And I don't think this argument about you're entitled to call your own finish is ridiculous. Well, you know, listening to their parents. He's going to be the the new emperor of Florida state. He stay there. Forever. You the main? Yeah. Right. I hope Texan EM gets their butt kicked by everybody. CC? Doesn't look like that's going to happen on. But thanks for sharing your thoughts. Anyway, call JIMBO a traitor. What about that, man? You think jimbo's trader? All the time when people oh, JIMBO with a traitor. He destroyed for this day. It's enough already to that guy. He didn't he didn't destroy Florida's bait. Bobby Dowden was a good coach in in. He did destroy for to St Paul eve wasn't into coast towards the end that guy. I'm sorry. They bummer is one thing. Shut up. Stop complaining already. And I wanted to talk to him. Now. He ended the conversation saying I hope he gets his butt beat out there. That's not gonna happen. Do sorry go crying wind to somebody else. But I wanted to talk to you about our athletic director, going LSU, Paul all I'm worried about this because what happened in two or three years from now if the oath you coast doesn't work out and they try to go after JIMBO Fisher Chebbi worried, Paul. I don't know mad. I will tell you and. It's a body blow to Texas A and M. I thought they had one of the best athletic directors in the country and Scott Woodward. He was running that operation brilliantly. I don't know why. He bailed out other than to go back home. I respect the man he's a good athletic director. I get east from there. I think you homesick I respect that. But I'm just worried about the fact that ultra does a workout then come after JIMBO Fisher nut worries meal a bit all well. I think listen, Matt, I don't think that's going to happen. But. I'm beyond trying to predict the sleaziness of college athletics. Okay. Okay. But I. I don't know. How you hire? Somebody in in two weeks later, you leave. I I would really like to get buzz Williams view of of of what Scott Woodward told him. Yeah. Was well, but I've never few questions. I wanna ask you today. I would also like to know, honestly, not corporate athlete BS. When this one was the first time that some back channel conversation began between LSU and Scott Woodward. How long ago was it? I sincerely doubt. It was the other day. There's no way you can pull something like this off without a lot of planning with a lot of conversation. Thank you for the call. Do. Appreciate it. Pete is in Chattanooga. How are you? Pete. Hey, I'm good Cole. How you doing? We're doing great. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Yeah. Obviously bit me to the punch. But obviously, you're on the the Florida campus yesterday. I'm just a question to you. Obviously debit Sweeney on the riots with all the chain fifty getting over Clinton. And now you've got Dan Mullen, pushing the pushing the envelope in Florida. NBC a real swing pets have been in the closet with Florida and kick the him just with the recruiting by them, Florida and take this with the one play is just say no to get out of the state to maybe just Alabama. And I mean these are dumped from program right now. But do you think that could be the demise of Ella? Bama next. I think the the issue for saving is is not so much Clemson or AM or Florida. It's how long is he going to be there? And right. Yeah. You can you can have hip surgery, and that's not going to really answer the question in and I'm not trying to make too much out of someone's age because we've seen coaches make sure chef ski seventy one or two years old, and he was number one in the country most of the season. It's it's it's really trajectory and the neighborhoods getting crowded. I mean, JIMBO Fisher is a threat Mullen is a threat, but I think the person that has ripped Nick Sabin system off and has perfected more than anyone is really dabbled Sweeney. And and that's how much that he's ripped savings basic blueprint. But what he's done is something that saving cannot do. And that is keep a coaching staff together to have continuity to pay them enormous. Sums of money and get them to stay Nick saban's biggest weakness as a football coach has been keeping his staff intact. And you look at the changes that have occurred recently, you went from curvy smart who was there for eleven years to Jeremy Pruitt who was part of that system a couple of different times. And now, I mean you've got to look in. You've got to you've got to look in your Alabama yearbook to figure out who's coaching. What position especially at the critical position of of defensive coordinator in the offense coordinator ship has been laughable of circular door it I mean, there's no way. I mean, you hire a guy who bails on you before he even takes over. There's already some concern about. House how Steve Sarkissian is going to fit in and you can you can say, well, you got the best coach in the country. But I I've talked to a number of head coaches some in this league, and they will say that it will hurt. I it's not like it's going to catch up to you. And you're gonna have a lousy season. But at Alabama a bad season is not winning the title. We'll catch up to you. When you face a program like Clemson. And it did it did. I mean, give me a reason why clemson's going to fall off a any other than losing the the kind of players they have lost. But Alabama's losing an equal number of players. Right. It's just a slow Rosen. Yeah. Ultimate one day. Just suddenly you look down. You've lost a game. You're not supposed to and then you lose another one. I mean, I watched it. I watched it. I covered the end the coach Bryant's regime. He was number two in the country. On October seventeenth. He lost his last four games or or I think he lost four of his last five games. I mean, all of a sudden the dam breaks, and you can't you can't stop it. Thank you for the call. Really do appreciate we're up against the break. More to come a lot to do on the program. Some very important guests. We'll talk about Nick savings hip surgery. Yes. It is scheduled for Monday. No tell no live television that I'm aware of president hero Harris festivities will join us from the university of South Carolina a little bit later on in more of your phone calls. After those listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're with us here on Friday after noon, let's grab some more calls in James his next in Baton Rouge, James. All our you. Well, thank you. Of just wanting to get your thoughts about how LSU handle the Joe alita situation. Well. Pretty badly. If you if you ask my opinion, which you did I mean, I think there could have been a more diplomatic way of doing it. But it seemed like it was necessary. I might have given a leave a chance to you know, how out a little more gracefully. But these things are hard to pull off. Right. Also have one more question for you, Paul. How much of a lease you think coach oh will have with this new athletic director coming over from Texas. Am James I think it would be about as cut and dried as you can get it if he wins he'll be fine. If he doesn't he'll get fired. So you think three or four losses all getting? Well, listen. No. I think I think it's all a matter how you measure up to expectations. I mean look at Kevin someone Kevin someone never had a terrible season. He just didn't meet expectations and Woodward fired him, and I think if. Like this year. If you know the expectations are top ten if you know if he goes eight and four I think he'll be in trouble. Yeah. I do too. Pulmonary think he's going to short that's one that. I I'm always amazed at and I know that mean meal issue was what we're that lets you. I mean, they were they played for the championship two years ago. Didn't they last last year? I'm trying to remember where had they finished last year. I know they were they were good. Yeah. We were good last year came in with the number one recruiting class. Yeah. Well, listen. I mean there there's no tougher baseball fans in the SEC that LSU fans, but I I don't know. I can't answer that one. Because I don't know how I mean. I know we're we're certainly knows the importance of baseball at LSU he went there. But that would be a tougher one for me to answer than than than ores. You're on. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, you LSU baseball coach that that's one of the hottest seats. You lose a game. And you're on the hot seat down there. Hey, thanks for the call a great to hear from you. Dan is in Louisiana. Hello, dan. Thanks a lot Paul great to have you on yesterday. Well, I understand Tony did quite well. I love Tony bone heart. I always writing. Anyway, I've got a couple of questions I like to drink big. And maybe you can help me out. I hope you don't dash all my hoax. But every since we'll wait situation, I've had my own crispier. And also with JIMBO Fisher, why wouldn't he come to LSU and other any you know out to aspects of him coming in. It's background. Round or your career? Well, let me let me get to Chris beard. I, you know, I I don't know where his contract situation is with tech. But I cannot believe he would leave there right now. I mean, Jim JIMBO just signed a seven year contract. And he's building a program. You know, would he be interested in LSU Coursey would've if Joe Aleve ahead and been so Joel leva hadn't been so arrogant and stubborn JIMBO Fisher would be the coach at LSU today. But you know, he wouldn't budge on on money, and and he lost JIMBO Fisher. So he lost them twice. The first time was the time. He should have gotten them though. He had he had them. He had them done. He had them are pretty much agreed then then they then he held off on money, and they lost them over my mind from what I'm told a pretty pretty small amount of money. But I wouldn't I wouldn't give JIMBO Fisher much thought. I really wouldn't. I mean, I think he's he's building a program at AM. And I would be very surprised if he remotely thought about LSU again. Okay, there is there anything in his background of how he grew up where you grew up of JIMBO, right? That that would you know? Yeah. Yeah. There there is quite a bit. I mean, JIMBO I think JIMBO is from West Virginia and jimbo's. Jimbo was Nick savings offensive coordinator when you when he won the national championship. Okay. You know, sides ads say any ties that he might have to LSU. Yeah. Listen hitting. Coat hitting their whether no he's not he's from he's from West Virginia. But he lived there six or seven years, and he knows the state quite well, he recruited I think he re recruited it when he was at it AM, excuse me at Florida state. Listen, I get where LSU fans are. But I'm sure that's going to be one of the first things got Woodward addresses. And I bet he makes it pretty clear statement about JIMBO Fisher because it's really not fair to hire somebody, and then you leave there and try to hire him somewhere else. We are up against a break. Couple more hours to go on Good Friday.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Fried passion, then patterns re of college football lives here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. Quarterback. Second hour is live and much conversation. Here about the news and LSU. And what it could mean we may have a little bit more on that in just a moment that surprise maybe surprising. I no surprise me. Ron is in Texas. Ron go right ahead. Hello, paul. How are you today? Mirror. Great. Thank you very much. Thanks for taking my call. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. You know, I I will say this about Scott. Momma called in Scott is very decisive. And it's the opportunity he's been waiting for. And you know, sometimes the stars just the line and the situation turns out that you can't pass it up. And Scott went home, and I don't blame him at all. I'm very had before. Now, as I think the will Wade situation has been covered to get rid of Joe alita. I think you're right gossiping called in to clean up that mess. And if I were will, wait. I'd be looking for a job. 'cause I don't think he's there for long, and I will say this. I understand that the seeds were sown when Michael young the president of AM. He wasn't automatically renewed. When he came up a while back because ADM has very complicated, by the way. I mean, the Michael young has not been there too terribly long has he he's been there a little longer than Scott. He hired Scott from okay? But I remember meeting him. I mean, he's been there like three I mean, he's been there under three or four years. If I remember it's been there three years, and I think I think mica young proceeded him by six months. Okay. I think is what the deal is the the way it works today and AM is the border regions has to approve everything. That's that's incredible. And that's set up by the state of Texas. Well, listen, I mean, I understand if my boss, and I've been through it before as well not that long ago. We're all of a sudden the guy you're negotiating with gets fired. It changes everything. And in that case, I under I understand he's been my I understand in my case he was fired and whether he's fired or not immediately renewed you start thinking. Yes. Yes. Right. And then you, and then you get a call that we want to get rid of Joe alita. Thanks to messed up. Here. We want you to come clean it up. Well, what you do. I would have probably done the same thing. Sure. I would have an I, you know, I don't think it's sleazy. I think I think this came down probably during our after he hired buzz, but he had an obligation to do the best. And he did and I'm grateful. Yeah. But that's what people do it doesn't matter where you went to school. It matters where you work. Now, you know, when they talk about JIMBO going to LSU, the one thing in our favor is jimbo's, not an LSU. Grad mama, would not call him to LSU Scott. My eventually. But but it doesn't have anything to worry about it. Oh, doesn't have anything to worry about as long as he performs? We'll wait has a lot to worry about. Now. Having said all of that. I just saw your ticker awhile ago that are Slocum has been named. Interim. Athletic director, correct. Big, you know, artsy. I know him. Well. Couldn't have made a better interim choice. Because he understands how AM works. It's not that he gets an him. It's that he's been there a long time, Iran. Tell me this you I don't know what a and M'S long-term plans are, but it will be it may not be easy to undo what they done today because our se- will be extraordinarily popular. He will be popular. But I you know, I've never said this before on the air. Phillip fulmer. In our C have a lot in common. But the game is passing up. Filler Phillip Fulmer. He's not a young dynamic person. Neither is our see. No RC. He has been hired as an interim director. Now. Now my question to you is and you don't have to answer this today. You can sleep on the RC seventy four hundred day because I don't miss your program. I watch it all the time. Okay. We've hired are see is an income director. And I have no doubt. That is a great hire. You know, you gotta stop the bleeding right away. And I think they've done that. Where do we go from here? Well is the second best choice the wrong. Let me ask you lost our first best choice. You know, when you when you here's where his I mean, I watched the Tennessee situation. Phillip Fulmer one of the job. They chose a younger more dynamic guy. He got blown out in nine months people like what they're comfortable with. And so if you look at what our represents is there anyone other than our C Slocum who I mean when I think of AM over the last forty or fifty years, I mean, I'll leave Jackie shirl out of the equation. But okay, I think I think gene stallings who who was an AM man to the core. I think of our she Slocum, but I am I'm not as familiar with 'em as you are. But I'm struggling to come up with someone in that mold RC. Was as good a coach. As we've ever had. He did incredible things at a time. When AM was at the very bottom of the heap. No doubt. You know? Jackie was a good coach. I'm not going to take anything away from him. Gene was a great coach. But our see I think he has the best winning records. I think you're right now when I say stallings, I'm talking. I mean, he gene was later a trustee. But he was he was an Aggie because he played for Bryant. And right. Everyone's talking sixty years ago or seventy years ago now of Ron I don't know the answer to your question. But I know some people who I'm sure are looking into that right now. Well, what about these guy is his name? It starts with an r read Radha radicchio Radico, which you know, man. Well, I know I know I know Dan, rather kovic well, Dan, Dan, worked at LSU under Woodward. I believe he is now the athletic director, Clemson. He was it. I don't know. I mean, he's a. He's been at Clemson. I think he was at Georgia Tech. He's been he's been in a couple of places in the SEC as well. Yeah. I I can't answer that because I mean, he's he's done quite well at Clemson. But that doesn't mean he couldn't be enticed. Well, and and I think like one of your last callers. If if if I know anything about Scott Woodward EBay have a trip to Lubbock planned or a trip from Lubbock to do Baton Rouge plan, very soon. I think I don't know if that guide leave this year, but I think he's definitely a candidate for the LSU job. Thank you very much. Ron preciado it good to hear from you. Yeah. I ran a kovic. Was it LSU and Georgia Tech? He's also been at South Carolina. There's no there's no connection to Texas. He's from. Please believe he's from Pennsylvania. So. Again. I I don't know. I'm I understand why school sometimes gravitate to one of their own. They're comfortable with its offered. The argument when when coach Fulmer was brought back, and I think it was a good argument. The program was a disaster. And they needed someone. They could trust the AM program is not a disaster. Scott Woodward has made two of the best hires of any athletic director, I have ever seen, and you know, somebody brought up Greg burns name. He's a very hot upcoming athletic director. His connection day 'em is only his father Bill Burr and was once the athletic director. There was also fired. You never know where we're we're coaching search or a D search will Lee we're up against a break mortar com. Eight five to four to seven to eight five. We have a lot to do on this. Good Friday holiday my Griffin. Maybe he has some of the answers. Usually does have plenty of answers. You listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back migrant joining us from Athens, Georgia where they have a game. Mike. I am not my sight is not that great. You look awfully tired. Don't tell me you've been. You were at that baseball game. Yeah. You know, twenty innings we'll do that to you record setting game between Georgia and Clemson Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. I don't know how you want to look at it ended about one thirty five AM what what a classic Paula. And you know, really what a great representation for collegiate athletics to see two teams fighting tooth and nail a mid week game. It didn't really matter. I mean clemson's twenty four Georgia's five but mid week game week starters each team used about seven pitcher. There was fifty strikeouts in the game. It was finally ending when Connor Tate singled in the twentieth inning. And Georgia was able to beat Clemson three to the storm the field. What was it like at the end of the game? Well, you know, what was cool the crowd dropped off after nine, but then some students just started appearing after midnight. I don't know if the they relieve in the bars or coming out of this Rory's or fraternity houses, but all the sudden you had this huge student's section behind home plate. Just taunting. The heck. Out of these poor Clemson batters. But it was good. It's like where are these people coming from? It's twelve thirty AM. It's one AM and these Georgia's students just kept appearing. So it was one of the most spectacular college sporting events that I'd seen certainly for college baseball real shot in the arm for Georgia ranked number five two days later, they shut out Missouri last night three to nothing show me. Right. So Georgia's still on top and the SEC looks like a college World Series team. There could be a lot of championship teams here, Paul. Well, let's talk about the one that they want this championship. The most I was done in Gainesville yesterday. Mike, and Dan Mullen was showing me the three crystal balls. And we were wondering what the crystal balls will quite in. In Athens, the good if you like ofensive line play if you believe that that's a key to the championship. Georgia's number six and number seven offensive lineman could start for any team in the country. I say that without batting an eye. They're that good. And I think you're gonna see Jake from throw the ball a little bit tomorrow. You Paul, you know, it's a showcase nobody's gonna hit the quarterbacks. The defense isn't going to deliver any big hits. They gotta protect one another. But it does give Georgia and opportunity to showcase some of the younger players in early enroll ease that are here. Now. Let's follow up on that a little bit. Because we keep hearing what a show case it's going to be what what will happen tomorrow. And if you're looking for nuggets to try to even become more confident on the dogs than you already. Are what what will you be watching for? Well, if you're an outsider, and you look at Georgia and say they lost four out of their top five receivers from last year. How could they possibly throw the ball? More effectively will number one Paul. I believe quarterbacks pro style quarterback Jake from make their biggest jump between years two and three year. One. Everybody keeps it simple playbook shrunken down and obviously with Sony Michelle Nick job, Jake from still made some great passes. But really wasn't asked to do a lot you're too when they throw a lot at a quarterback. And you're three is when they really get it and get comfortable you saw Jake settle in the second half last year after that LSU game. So what you're looking for now is receivers. So let me tell you Jay home in may have been the best Georgia receiver by the end of last season. He's coming back. The guys you wanna see Dimitrius Robertson. He was a freshman all American at Cal two years ago. He's ready to play Georgia now came back home transfer back home last year didn't do much bulked up learned how to black Kirby's giving them the stamp of approval. This guy is a flyer. You're gonna look for Dimitrius Robertson and Tyler Simmons is the other outside receiver and Tyler's a tough kid, Paul. He played half last season in shoulder brace. And I don't know how guys do that. And I'll pain medicine or or just toughness, but they got some receivers that are really gonna pop tomorrow as we move out of spring and into the crazy season, Mike when to speculation is rampant. I mean, you've got a pretty good handle on this team. I've asked you this before, but we're at the end of spring now, what do you what do you think? What do you make of the dogs in nineteen? I think they grew up. You know, we know that they got off to a slow start with some off the field issues, the first half spring Kirby handled that you asked me about that the last time I came on Kirby handled that some stadium steps handled that and Georgia came together these players realized look, it's bigger than me. If I make a mistake, it's national news, and it sunk in and now they understand that they've got to put themselves in their priorities. Have got to go below the team the team priority has to come first any championship team, Paul. They always come together they come in sync. I mean, we saw it with what dabbles Sweeney and Clemson did last year an unbelievable finish from the Tigers. They weren't anywhere near that type of team at the beginning of the season. But by the end of the year clumps just kept us. That's got to happen for Georgia. Right. There's some reload going on right now. I think this spring accomplished that the team to get came together. And now you're gonna. Some guys come in this summer that could make a difference make George even more dangerous in the fall. I think curb he's got a great grip on it. And I think it was wise of him to promote from within for his offense of in coordinate defense coordinator jobs, so we had the guy from analytics on two days ago. He project Georgia to finish in the top four. I think he has him as the fourth team. Although he said probably the third best. You agree. Absolutely. I, you know, I think if Georgia doesn't win the SEC championship. It would be a disappointment for their fans for their team. Georgia's this is the championship. Not the division. Right. Oh, yeah. They've won the division. They've done that twice in a row. Now, you've got to keep building. And it's Jake froms junior year listed, Paul. Here's why you look into a lot of these Georgia juniors. I mean, I drop JJ helmet on you. I'll tell you. The Andrea swift is a fantastic player. I mentioned that offensive line. Four of them will be NFL draft eligible. Jake Frahm is junior JR read. Read the safety senior. They're going to lose a lot of guys after this. You know, there's a lot of young guys curbs recruited outstanding there's going to be new stars that emerge. But to me, this is a window for Georgia this year because they're going to lose a lot of that championship offensive line to the NFL draft as well as the Andrea swift. And I think JJ Holloman I think he's the most underrated receiver in the country going into next season. Okay. So you've laid out Mike a very compelling case for this team. You talked about the offense of line a comment, and I'm sure we'll resonate around the country. You talked about winning the SEC. So let me ask you the toughest question. The team is good enough. We agree is Kirby smart. Good enough to beat Nick Sabin. Yeah. I think he's proven that. I mean, if they don't lose the Andre Walker in the third quarter last year, they beat Alabama Alabama didn't have an answer for that guy. When does he does he proven these good enough to beat Nick Sabin? Well, I mean, you're talking about the final score. I mean, that's a fair question. Paul none of savings disciples had beaten him yet. And Nick save. Man has done an amazing job with the roulette wheel of coaching changes. You know, Barney the dinosaur could be coordinator and they'd win the west, although I'm not so sure about not sure about this year. I just think Georgia has the momentum. I mean, I think the players understand. It reminds me of something Mark dantonio said after his two thousand twelve season his whole off season. Mantra was we have to find the inches in? The message was to the players. You've gotta do a little bit more and Georgia has done a great job. I think advancing the ball under Kirby smart. They belonged in the playoff last year. I mean, saving even said he thought they one of the four best. So did curb street? Most of the people did obviously the Georgia Tech athletic director in the Florida AD they were on that playoff committee. I don't think they were jumping up on the table to put their rivals in the in the playoff. Ho hold on a second. Are you are you now suggesting that the Georgia Tech athletic, Rick, and Scott stricklin who I'm assuming was recused from these conversations? No, they weren't they weren't. No. They. Recused. Okay. No, no. Then let me make sure that. So Scott Lincoln was in the room. And you have reason to believe this Scott stricklin, the university of the university of Florida. I thought he tried to keep Georgia out of the playoffs. I don't I don't I listen. I you just come on. I just said I don't make. They was jumping on the table. I think so if you say they're not joining a table, what are you suggesting here? What I'm suggesting is that this system doesn't work because everybody has their own. Everybody has their own agendas. Paul everybody gets their paycheck signed by somebody. And it's preposterous to think that people can put that agenda side when when it's this type of the I just they're human beings, Paul. It's the human being factor and people make mistakes. Heck, I make mistakes you make maybe you don't make mistakes. I make plenty of mistakes. Okay. I'm just saying if you're the Georgia Tech AD, and you're the Florida AD and there's a conversation in its well. She George be Entsch. Georgina don't you kind of look each other and go ask him, you know. And I'm I'm not saying that happened come on come on. Let's cut the behest. I mean, that's exactly what you're saying. He trying to boy. And by the way, you know, because I was on with Kirk street and everyone else I was arguing as loudly as anyone for Georgia. So I'm not I'm not coming around saying, I thought someone else should have been in. But the difference is I'm a TV hack. I'm not on that committee. I didn't make a pledge to uphold the integrity. Like Scott did. And like, the Georgia did have great integrity. But you can't come on here and say, they have great integrity. If you host sure they throw out there. Oh, yeah. But they didn't want says Scott stricklin cared. Whether Georgia played in that game or Notre Dame Roca home. I'll just say that there's a lot of psychiatrists and psychologists before as Paul did a proven that we all have some degree of natch national natural bias, whether we want to recognize it or not. We're not perfect. Okay. We're human beings we are. And if I if I am the someone at the university of Florida what's good for floor. What's good for Georgia is not necessarily good for me? And I bring into question the human element because I it now in hindsight everybody can still well hindsight. Twenty twenty know Georgia's play well against Texas. They really weren't one of the four bath. They look like one of the four best to me at the time. All I'm saying is I think it's hard to put a rival school in that room and ask them to be. Completely objective and make a decision that would be to the detriment of their own school. And if Georgia makes it in the college football playoff that's tougher for Georgia Tech and Florida on the recruiting trail. That's why I think the system is broke. And I don't think that it works. Listen, there's a lot I agree with Mike in what you said. But I I am. Troubled by the insinuation, I was troubled by the thought of it myself. I said how in the world could this happen? And then I looked at this thirteen member committee, and I said what doesn't add up here. And I'm not saying, you know, what's maybe Scott Strickland was the biggest proponent, you know, what the real problem is Paul want us there. I saw I saw yesterday. I'm gonna tell you pretty great. Great. You wanna call them? No, no. I liked it. I go all the way back to Auburn with this guy. He was one of the most helpful people. I don't care what if you care what he did in that room. Here's the problem. You know, why we don't because we don't know because there's zero transparency you want me to believe in the system, then make it transparent and show me how they voted if you wanna hide behind closed doors, you're asking for this sort of speculation. Okay. It wasn't my am. I wrong. I mean, I can't argue with something I've already argued with on ESPN. So no, you're not wrong. I was on the the BCS we're the college football playoff show, whatever it's called a year or two ago making that same statement. So I'm not gonna argue with you on that. But but I I have never heard ever intil. This interview anyone accuse Strickland. That's a strong word. I didn't accuse I said, I didn't think that they were jumping on a table is the big listen, you can imagine a world that's an accusation. I'm not an accusation. That's I mean, you're you're insinuating that he did something to keep Georgia out. You're inferring that I'm just speculating that he wasn't their biggest proponent and. Why would they do you have whether I'm right or wrong about my verbiage here. I'm just a I'm just a country, kid, Tennessee. I do you have one scintilla of evidence to support. Have you ever talked to Scott stricklin? Do you ever called him and such got because we have a conversation? About what happened in that room? They're not allowed to talk about what happened in that. Doesn't mean they're not allowed to talk about it here. But that doesn't mean you can't call them up. I promise you if I had known what you were going to say today when I sat in a room with him yesterday. I would have gotten more information out of them than I got. I would have said what wouldn't the world happened that room is pretty transparent he was pretty transparent at Mississippi State issues, but I don't necessarily think that he can tell you what happened. Broke you could probably. I bet you think he's going to tell you voted for George. He wants George in the playoff is that what he's going to tell you that the Florida AD highly running Georgia. I tell you what I know. I know a lot of these people and while I don't like the system, and why agree with you completely. I would tell you that that every person on that committee is there to coalesce around the group and they're not bringing individual biases in school ties. Not eventually probably not intentionally. I I. Not Jeff about things. Whether I'm at whether I'm university of Tennessee graduate or whether I'm covering the university of Georgia. I try to I try to get all that out of the system when I got up here. That's because you work for the SEC network. You don't work for. Precise. Just so I worked for ESPN. Okay. Well, you were for ESPN which covers the entire name. I question is who do you work for I work for the Cox enterprises AJC dog nation, Paul, and I try to represent the truth is I know it from my perspective in my experience. And my experience is when people hide behind poles and aren't transparent. There's a problem we've seen it in the coaches poll, I can give you plenty of evidence of situations where committees have gotten together and done things that have been overturned later. Let's look at the NC double A, and some of those bozo committees they put together and some of the decisions they came up with that were later overturned that we later learned involved a personal bias, this is just human nature. Anytime humans are involved, Paul. There's a larger margin for air. Mike, we will continue this at a theater near you. Thank you for joining us very much. I think George will make it a lot easier form next year. Okay. I hope so. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Anyway, welcome back. We had the story earlier that Nick Sabin will go under the knife on Monday. Serious hip surgery while Kane doing the honours in Birmingham and with us now, Dr David Geyer who is a sports medicine specialists orthopedic surgeon. He's also the author of that's got to hurt the injuries that changed sports forever. Doctor guy. Thank you very much. Really great to have you on. And I I realize this is not your patient. I'm familiar with how doctors work, but I am interested in the surgery, nevertheless. And as we say Hello to you. How it would impact a sixty seven year old man, who coaches football at the very highest level. Well, thanks for having me. Yeah. I mean, it's a big lifestyle change. I mean, you have to sort of step back, and look I'm sure his last three or four months have been marked with periods of excruciating pain from that worn out bone and cartilage in his hip joint. You know, he catches it a certain way turns a certain way, and it causes really really bad pain. So if anything he'll over, you know, get through a short. But significant recovery, but then he'll be significantly better in terms of much less pain just doing what he wants to do. So those of us who fortunately have never had this before. What happens? Yeah. You basically make an incision probably about four or five inches long. Sometimes it's on the front. Sometimes it's on the back of the hip, depending on the preference of the surgeon, and you're basically removing the ball, and and some of the cartilage in worn out bone on the socket and replacing it with metal and plastic and there's different materials depending on surgeon preference and patients issues, but basically, you're recreating a hip socket and ball and socket with metal and plastic which is great, obviously, it's better than the worn out bone and cartilage, but it's got its own challenges in terms of recovery. And then some limitations on what you can do down the road. People. Tell me six to eight weeks, I realized a surgeon, and they always say the most important thing any patient can do is be is be vigorous and village int- in rehab of savings, a pretty good athlete. Does that dictate or determine the recovery? Yeah. I think that's a big part of it. If you go in, you know, in good shape, and really strong the muscles of your lower body. I think you're going to get that back even faster. So I think that only bodes well for him. So ultimately, Dr. For someone like him. You've already said he's going to probably be a lot better. Are there any other impacts or affected this other than positive? Yeah. I mean, typically there are some things that we don't like patients to do you wouldn't want most joint replacement surgeons at least don't want them running on it for exercise. You know, you might be able to jog short-distance onto the field that typically you're going to limit activity to things like walking or swimming or stationary bike or outdoor biking things like golf, which I know Sabin loves, but you're going to eliminate sort of the high impact activity that involves that could wear out the metal and plastic, but basic coaching things I mean the next few weeks. He'll probably be limited as you know, he'll be on a cane or something like that. So he'll be doing, you know, his scouting. And that kind of thing, but he won't be walking up down the sidelines. That's why he's doing it now and not say in June. But by the time June rolls around as far as football coaching activities. I don't think you'll see much of a difference. Just like we didn't with Mark richt and Joe Paterno. And we haven't with coach K and John Calipari. I think you can get back to full coaching with really no impact. And finally once you get back after. A an appropriate recovery period. Then you're back to normal life, even better. Yeah. I think so I mean if everything goes, well, and there's no reason to think that it wouldn't. Yeah. I think is he'll be doing just about everything he needs to be able to do coaching. You know, his speaking in the offseason all of that. I don't think you'll see any real difference at all. I say this show, can we? But all the all the opponents have Sabin are going to be disappointed by this conversation that he's going to be better than ever. Yeah. It could be interesting. But no, I think you'll see his competitive fight, you know, on the field shine through because he won't be having, you know, dealing with his own personal pain. He could be even better for for crimson tide fans. So I mean, not to make an excuse because they did lose by twenty eight in the national championship game. But I mean, would it be fair to say to have this surgery? You would have had to have been a lot of pain. Yeah. You usually don't do this as a preventative measure, this is a last resort type of surgery. It's when the pain gets so bad that you're having to really stop things, you wanna do sometimes even having to take, you know, narcotic pain medicines. It gets so bad. So yeah, you don't do it. Just just in case. It becomes a problem down the road. You wait until you just can't deal with it anymore guy. Thank you for joining us. We'll get back in touch with you. And we watch how this plays out. Great to have you on. Thanks so much Dr David Geyer, and we don't we don't know. No. This happens when twentieth amendment all that. But whether doing when Sabin is under under the. The anesthesia does the power of the position. Go to Barney. The dinosaur is my Griffin said the offense coordinator, we'll be back. Dr Harry pass Titas the Harris Pristina's, the president of the university of South Carolina will join us in a couple of minutes about a very serious subject. More of your phone calls on maybe less serious subjects after this. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Joe is up next as we continue here on a Friday. Good Friday in Fort Lauderdale. Hello, joe. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you that Georgia divan thought, I was James Carville two point oh calling. Conspiracies? I think this conspiracy was crazier than Carvel's. Carbo at least a little bit about it. But I don't know. That's I mean, Georgia just needs to win. And they haven't done it in thirty nine years. The only Joe based on what Mike said it's about to happen. Yeah. Well, I'm going to have you on the under this year on their win total because I don't see him when and ten and a half now playing. I mean, they're going to slip up somewhere, but fell schedule. Anyway, appreciate what you do Paul. And thank you very much. We love you down here in south, Florida. Great to have you on good stuff. Tim is in Orlando, and you are next up. Hey, Tim, damn Paul. I was going to I was going to lighten the mood by African who's your favorite gator. Tim tebow for Laura Rutledge. Well, you know, I it's a good question. I saw another gator yesterday had chance to talk to him that would be in contention. I saw Danny Werfel down at the swamp. Oh favor. But with all due respect, I'm going Tibo. Yeah. Wow. Really, you get to sit next to Laura legitimate. She she didn't wanna Heisman shooting a championship. And all she did was wind miss Florida. Yeah. She's also married. And that's the problem. All right. Have a good night. Paul. Greg in Athens, Alabama. Hello, greg. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Well, what expedition between a? That guy you had on from the AJC talking about analytics the other day and Mike Griffiths. You know, migrant is talking about. The lack of transparency, which we all agree is a big problem instead of stopping there and focusing on that he take he goes off the rails with this conspiracy thing, and when I was driving I had to stop and pull over because I wanted to listen to this conversation. They make sure I heard what he said correctly and bike is a journalistic equivalent of a mercenary. He goes where the money takes him. So, you know, if if something catastrophic happened to the Georgia BULLDOGS in the next year or two. I don't remember when he was at Tennessee. He never defended Butch Jones and Tennessee did he well he didn't answer some of your questions about Bush Jones there in the last season. And how he sure did. He sure didn't. So it's like. You know, he he's just like someone you pay money to perform a service, and he goes where the money takes. Well, let me tell you this considering how bad that the industry is these days. I I'm not sure I blame him. But I he can say whatever he wants about Georgia and curvy smart and Nick Sabin. But the other stuff was close to the rail. Well, I think he he was on a third rail with that back because it wasn't accusation. And you know, he's he should be more accusatory towards the lack of results for his favorite football team in the last two years, then what Scott stricklin doing down in Florida. I just think it's beyond the pale. And that was what I was gonna call about. But I just thought that was just off the charts there anyways with Woodward now officially going. You're in LSU. We'll wait aside. I think it does affect the other coaches, especially coach or Gironde because if he's not beating Alabama and getting to the SEC championship. We already know that Woodward has a short tolerance level for underachievement. Correct. I would think it's it's extremely shore. Based on the fact, he's fired two moderately successful coaches. Right. So he's been moderately successful so far, and I know last year he exceeded everyone's expectations. But now that veil of the unknown is off and his going to have to take a quarterback who threw for less than sixty percent completion rate through three quarters of his schedule and make them into something that he may not be Greg. Thanks for the call. We are up against the clock. Dr Harris Pristina's from the university of South Carolina will join us in our next segment.

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Hour 1: 10/15/18

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Hour 1: 10/15/18

"I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel, so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try, get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor switch to Joel check, OJ dot com. Slash sports. If you don't smoke, Vate, don't start warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Cried pack, then patron tree of college football leaves. Here is the Paul finebaum show our one podcast Hennessy back on the radar screen after incredible win at Auburn or wasn't that incredible. Yeah, I think it was Knoxville, news sentinel headline underdog, UT vol's play like favorites versus Auburn, possibly season, changing, win, Jeremy. Pruitt. The man of the moment. It was good to get a win this past week on the road. And I think our kids are excited nor fan base. Was in, but it's like we told our players, we've got twenty four hours to celebrate and enjoy it, and then it's time to move on Allah battle. Yeah. Well, you may take a little longer than that, but anyway, the at one point we thought this game would be a laugher, but with Tennessee was some momentum and Alabama's quarterback a little banged up. Okay. I won't say it. But his show starts now. Full. You mix. Paul finebaum show is presented by regions Bank. Say Hello to you were at the mid point of the college football season, the mid point of October and mind is this league lick different than it did a week ago, Tennessee winning Auburn, losing Georgia, going down, LSU knocking off seemingly everyone, but Florida. And then there's the Gus. Gus malzahn told us Friday night in Auburn, a new season begins tomorrow. Well, the way it went. I don't think they want that type of season. So have we seen this horror movie before? Yes, we have preseason rank in fifteen and twelve. Of course, the Gus bus was not there in twelve that was the Chizik bus, but nevertheless fall from grace like you wouldn't believe. So where does it go? I think we all know the situation. Gus malzahn new contract courtesy of president. Stephen lease last December, seven years. Forty, nine million dollars. The buyout is thirty. Two million Auburn fans be acceptable to that. Will they embrace Gus malzahn. We'll find out as we go throughout the rest of the season. And what about those barking? Dogs? Darrow quit the show last week and the dog just had no fight. Nightmare in death valley. Seem pretty similar to the Auburn game last year and on the planes Kirby smart where you got, obviously we didn't play our best football game today. Now, responsibility starts and files of me thought LSU did a hell of a job. Their quarterback played really well. He got him in the right place on a lot of run checks, and we didn't tackle rule well defensively, which we've seen before and then I'll festively. We couldn't get any rhythm in the second quarter, and it's frustrating all day. We had some plays where we miss them opportunities, but we didn't make plays when we had to. And it would probably lost the kicking gang for the first time too. And that's not indicative of who we are, but I don't want to take anything away from new coach, Ron. They did a tremendous job. Their fans had a tremendous environment, and we got a standard at Georgia. We play too, and we didn't do that today. The good news is we get an opportunity to go out and get to work and get better. Okay. The well, the east is certainly up for grabs now and Florida, Georgia. In two weeks, the world's smallest can't say it. We're not allowed to. So Georgia is reeling did curvy smart, make the right move by sticking with Jake from many are wondering, many are questioning that we saw a little bit of fields not enough Cording to some Georgia fans that I know, but that's why we are here, and we will spend the next four hours talking about all of those situations. But, oh, forgot the Heisman winner. Aggravated. His knee again. Is parents went into the medical tent, like the way that zipper goes up and down there. No one gets in in here, come Mr. and MRs looking. Okay. And in the end to a was, okay, he's been cleared to go back to the practice field today, so, but they're still worry after all your backups only Jalen hurts. Anyway, I'm not laughing, but we do have a big show on tap Damian, Harris star, running back for the crimson tide will join us as well as Andrew Adelson Marcus and Greg, my Griffith covered Tennessee last year, and by the way, Butch Jones making his return trip to Knoxville, what if he still has a house there? I was looking for someplace to stay Friday night. But first your phone calls at eight five five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight five. Let's get right to it. Harry is up next Harry. Good afternoon. Paul on so many things to talk about today. I'm just gonna go with a hypothetical for you and let the rest of the crowd bring on the three on the dog. So to speak Paul in the event and none of us, I guess. No, everybody would know you may know Paul coach savings future in been wine coach saving does retire. Yes, Ed, ores, Ron. We'll take his place. Do you think Paul, he has someone in mind right now and if so, who do you think it would be? And I'll hang up and listen. Listen. The answer your questions. I, I don't think anyone really knows what future is and, and I don't think coach save does. He is as passionate about coaching today as he has been at any point at Alabama, and I don't think he really is thinking along those terms and I don't think he will until he has to which answers the second part of your question. I do not. That doesn't mean it will something could change where he decides. You know what? I'll I'll make a lot of times coaches will do that. They'll say. Bob stoops for the perfect example. He had Lincoln Riley on rally on a staff. Everyone knew Lincoln was the parent stoops said, you know what? I'm leaving. My dad died at a young age of a heart attack. I, I'm not gonna. I'm not going to go through that. So that's the best way I could possibly answer your question at this point in time, Brian is in Miami, you're on the air, go right ahead. Mr. Fane bomb. How are you? We're doing well, thank you for the call here. Welcome. Did you enjoy your into my alma mater over the weekend? I will tell you what it'd be just let's take the game out of it because that's not really the biggest part for me. I had a blast. We had a great time Friday. Friday night. We were honored to be invited to be with the new athletic director, spend a lot of time with him and his family, both Allen and Christy green and hung out with Charles Barkley, which is always an earth in a world changing experience. And then. The game was the game. Yeah, that's very true. Down the drain for a lot of Auburn fans. Yeah, like so Cokie blitz report. The other day was talking about a lot of guys aren't playing the other playing for each other. I mean, I'm sorry, hold on the coal co went ballistic because someone in that locker room spoke to the media. Well, I think the issues a little bit bigger than someone speaking to the media. I think I think the guy who wrote the story. Got right. There are problems in that locker room, and that's really what he was trying to convey in coal saying whatever he said may have been listening. The point of the story. The story is there's a problem down there. Would you agree or disagree. Oh, absolutely. I grits get your take me further than just didn't guess miles on hands. Rather, there's a whole room of problems there. I I agree. And in speaking with other people down there, I mean, you you, you can. You can see the attitude if you watch the players during the game, and I don't know, we're Gus. Malzahn goes, I really don't. I mean, there's not much he can say right now. He knows he knows exactly what the problem is, and you know, he said we're going to, we're going to work on correcting it. Well, that's what he said last week in the situation. Got worse. And it's hard to imagine the situation digressing from here. I don't view this current this week's game as as as really being that big of a deal one way or the other, you could beat ole miss and you haven't saved your season to season really about Texas AM the following week, Georgia and Alabama. And right now it's hard to imagine Auburn, making much of a difference in those three games. Yeah. The only thing came out of this weekend was the head coach for my high school. Modern coach, Pruitt. He got his first day DC happy friends, pick the expense in the whole Tucker's? Yeah. Well, good to hear from you. Thank you very, very much. Yeah. I, the Auburn people that we assume I've spoken to are pretty despondent, but you know, what's the solution to the problem I think is a better question of Boone is up next Boone, go right ahead. I just like to say gut again, too much money for what he's producing. Okay. What we'll let me ask you right now, what do you do since he has a contract given to him by the president? What do you do? I think you get rid of that in the college. You don't lose money. If you look around in the stand there, everybody's laving. I'm not spending my money. I tell my kids say they money because what you see now you can go back and pull up tight and see year before two thousand sixteen. Okay, but, but let me ask you a series questioner boom, he has a guaranteed contract. Do you buy? I mean, do you have do you do you think Auburn has thirty million dollars if I'm out? Yes. 'cause you if you go to school down at these kids spending all this money down and they got the money. Thank you. Know they'd be lucky to win one more game that's going to be liberty. I don't think then one another game. Well, well, here, here's here's why you can't make a judgement right now. What you said is correct burned. If fans give up, then you then you get into a predicament. Can you afford to buy him out or can you afford not to? That's always the question and when things get to that point and when they're so bad it, it also trickles down to more pressing issues like recruiting in December and other things. So I mean, I, I don't think we've reached Defcon one yet. Yet. We'll take a break more to come on this pleasant Monday afternoon, eight, five, five, four to seven to eight five is our number, and we were coming listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome to belt official retail department store the SEC with department stores in the southeast. We get your passion. We know it's more than a game. It's a way of life and part of the modern southern lifestyle we deliver every day at belt. You'll find new looks from the best brands like Michael Kors. Frye free people under armor and more all at great prices. You'll love the fashion, you desire the value you deserve. That's modern southern style experienced today in store or at belt dot com. Cried passion, then patterns re of college. Football leaves. Here is the Paul finebaum show our one podcast Roger here what the Faulk about and Andrei in Atlanta. Hello, Andre coat. Paul found on how you doing. We're doing great, Andre, always great to hear you. I went out to Joe alita and coach, oh, pretty hard. But like I'm the one with air on my faith. Man. Maybe just a hard bowl. It's not scrambled yet. Well, hardie-boys hurt, you know, code you'd be hit in the face with it. Coach. I mean, you know, little, he's got this thing rolling pretty good, but you you and I know the ultimate test is coming up with the great Alabama. Managers leading. I I, I am intrigued and impressed like you are in like everyone is. But my question back to you is, does LSU have the offense to score with Alabama? I don't. I don't think anybody's got off because Alabama's like a giant python every time you breathe, they squeeze every time you breathe a squeeze and then you just pass out. But in the meantime, the offense is studied running up the school on you and you can't school on them. So it's a tall cast and a tall tree climb coach. I'm hopeful for the future though, and as far as Auburn goes, do they have the money to buy the man out coach? What do you think they got the money boozers down with teeth. Say this every negotiation is not as simple as okay, how much is the contract worth then? They're always negotiations and Gus malzahn. I'm still not sure what went into his thought process last year when he chose not to go to Arkansas. But it doesn't mean that. I mean, let's say he finds a job somewhere else. He can then to go. She ate his way out and then just go somewhere else. I'm not saying he will. I really don't know. Let me ask you a question code findbaugh. Would you walk away from that type of money on? No, I would not. And neither would I so. Around out and made them fire him. So here's the deal coat which you don't know is what else is going on. And and we, we haven't reached that point yet that we're just in the early stages show should another loss occurs should blowouts occur to Georgia and Alabama, and then the situation may become untenable. We're Gus malzahn makes it decision. Let me try to preserve my reputation, which is still pretty good by the way and maybe maybe look elsewhere, maybe maybe reach as some some accord. I mean, those things happen. They're not always as simple as what's on the contract. Most of the time they are though CJ is in Ohio. Hello? CJ. Good afternoon. Hey, good afternoon. Fine. How are you? Doing? Great. Thank you. Did y up big fan yours up here in big ten country. Thank you very much. Just wanted to call and tell you that an article that you, I read it on ESPN about the excuses and everything with your with urban Meyer and all that that went on this team is in total disarray. And I'm gonna Lum ni- who pays for tickets, set everything and sees things. But this team is in total disarray told us who at the Ohio State team. Oh yes. From the defense to the offense. If they look like a high school team coming out to play again and everybody's screaming about, you know, we're going here. We're going there. They've got a stretch coming up with Michigan, Michigan state that I don't think they're gonna pull through, not the way they're playing now. You know, what are your thoughts? I disagree with you about the way because I thought they escaped Penn State and they escaped one of the more difficult places in the country. They have not looked good. They're reminding me a little bit of Georgia where the expectations are high living up to them or difficult. But I still think they have. They have some significant wins. The TCU win has been dinged up a little bit because TCU has become pretty average team, but I'm not ready to to say they, they don't look like a good team. I think they are a good team and I think they will show that as we move throughout the season Mobely Oxford, Mississippi. Go right ahead Moby. Out by saying that overlooked, very bad Saturday, and things are looking really rough for all you STA Maoz on on the planes. You know, at this rate, they're paying about a million dollars a win. Well, again, I'm going to argue that we're in the middle of the season. I'm also going to counter my own argument by saying, it's impossible for me to believe. Auburn can pull out of this. They just don't have the personnel and they don't have the approach, right right now there Gus malzahn approach to the season has gone down in flames, and that was pretty self evident on Saturday. I would agree on the other hand, I wanna congratulate Bill, miss rebels on a huge road win against Arkansas, and finally breaking that curse. Recognize that was a good win was. Yeah, we won't people give ole miss little credit for having a pretty good team when the only loss has been the two officers from teams that are in the top five. I mean, I know the defense has been brutal, but Arkansas also scored more than thirty points against Alabama said, we get a little bit of credit for that win, get credit and and and what a painful loss was for Arkansas chance to win a significant road. Go home game. Excuse me in the SEC and just coughed it up. Then I mean, Arkansas play better, but. They don't have much to show for it. Yeah, is up next. Hey, I heard Vong. I mean me that would be you and that was a, you know, we're not say. We're not saying it doesn't mean Harvey. It means it. I saw what I saw. I saw what you and I were both afraid of. The team is just not. Is all made of a fresh nurse off force, I guess, prejudice Porsche after grew up. But they certainly did nothing that they know they didn't convince me other than to go out to dinner. That I'm not. I don't know what's happening is you're any by the way I think you had to. Right. I. Saturday should not have been surprised. It's you. I mean, I, I thought they would win because I had, I knew they had the talent to win, but that talent has not performed. Well, the game plan reminded me a little bit of what happened in Auburn last year. One thing. What's that. Stands. I spoke to last year after Auburn were all gathering around the circle saying, we're gonna kick it. But next time we see them and we're going to win out well. They, I don't know something missing. Is there a controversy at quarterback? I think there is a controversy, a quarterback Ed, and I think curvy smart has been stubborn, and I think so toes inability to to adjust cost Georgia eight. I'm not saying thanks. I'm not saying, I mean thirteen. Nothing down. Kirby smart should of looked at that score and go, you know what? There was a team down thirteen. Nothing to my team last year. And what did that team do? They made a change of quarterback and then beat us with a young kid who's now the Heisman favorite. I'm not suggesting the same situation as their, but Kirby smarts, a smart man. He knew there was no chance they were going to win that game. The way they were playing. They were lucky was as close as it was. There are. They were lucky it was that close because LSU just was was putting Phil goes on the board and in in not converting touchdowns and. I think Kirby smart just said, you know what? We're going to stay with the same plan and the plan was a bust. We are up against the break Damian Harris will join us next to talk about the crimson tide listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel, so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try, get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor switch to Joel check, OJ dot com. Slash sports. If you don't smoke or vape, don't start warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. The pride passion, then patching Torri of college. Football leaves. Here is the Paul finebaum show our one podcast. We welcome you back to the program, and we are always delighted to talk to our next guest that he's been with us a number of times and there's still plenty of time for the season. He's brought to you by holiday express Damian, Harris is being the radius and Damian always great to say Hello, congratulations been a great season. I, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that, but it seems like it's been pretty good season so far. We've done a lot of great things. We're playing really well on offense right now. Our defense stuffed up in some situations on playing well on special teams. So you're playing really well right now, and you know, we still got a lot of room to improve, but hopefully we'll continue to improve each and every week. Let's talk a little bit about the season. And when we talked to you last, I think we asked you about the quarterback situation. I think that has been settled for now. Although we're seeing a lot of Jalen hurts and as you know, well, a lot of unique situations like the other night, talk a little bit about the relationship that all of you are having with both to end Jalen hurts. Yeah. I mean, we're obviously comfortable with both guys. We know the bogas can play quarterback at a high level. I've been saying that says day one obviously to as our starting quarterback, but I think it's good and it shows Jalen 's ability to play all of the field and the things that he he's done this year and the Rosa he's taken on. I think that says a lot about his character as well. You know, he hasn't given up on me so don't whatever he can to be a part of this offense out, make office successful. So we really love both of those guys and we stand behind both of them and we're lucky to have both of those guys June. Everyone took a deep breath on Saturday night went when to was hurt. Coach Saban said afterward. He could have gone back in the game. I'm not trying to put you into the position of the medical specialists, although I'm sure you could be that. But talk about the level concern you guys have with what's happened to him so far. I mean, anytime you quarterback goes down, you know, you kinda hold your breath a little bit, but we had the the mentality that we have is, you know. So the next man up and we knew that Jalen coming in wouldn't be a problem for us and we knew that he could still he can still play a high level and allow lower office a skew the high level. So ultimately, you know, like you said, you never, you never wanna see your starting quarterback goes down, but we're lucky that we have another guy that can step up and play just as well. Yeah, I guess plenty of schools would like to be in that position and Alabama is in there in terms of what people are saying. And I and I talked to many many times, and I know you don't let the noise and the rat poison and all the cliches. But you know Damian, I mean, this football team is number one, the country people are just loading up in lauding you with praise. Is it more difficult now than ever to try to keep all of that out. Not really. I still think coach saving does a great job of making sure that we stay focused and you know, just they ready to improve each and every single week we know that this is that we're having is just going to motivate teams that place even harder every Saturday. We're going to get everybody's best game until we're done playing. So I don't think it's hard at all to to kind of stay away from the praise and stay focused on the ground because ultimately, we know that you know, like I said, every team is gonna give us their best shot and we have to continue to improve if we want to continue to have the success that we've been having. But even Damian when some of the so-called experts over on my side of the camera, saying this, maybe the greatest Alabama team ever. This may be the greatest team ever. Certainly the most explosive offense ever. None of that gets through. Not really. You know, coming into the season, our offense. We kind of sit on the mentality that we don't want to be the little brother anymore. What I mean by that is you know, everybody always talked about the Alabama defense and how great it was. And it was kind of the trademark of our team ever since goes, save guy here. And you know, given our defence a lot of credit, they're still incredibly well. But this year we really wanted our office to be talked about a lot more and we wanted people to realize that we had one of the best offices in the country. So I think that I worked in off-season and every single day of practice the way that we prepare in the way that we go about trying to improve in and be the best office that we can be. I think that that's a testament to how what we're playing right now. Let's put you on the spot, although I've done it before Damian, but I mean, we know that by the time we get to the fourth quarter. Most of these games are out of reach in Alabama would say shuts down, but maybe lowers the volume. What's his team capable of doing if if you guys played the whole four quarters. That's a good question. I think the sky's the limit for our team. Fortunately, we, we've been able to to get up on teams pretty early and you know, get a lot of young guys in so they can get that experience onto their Bill and kind of get their feet wet. But you know, I think plan for a full four quarters, I think we're a pretty dangerous team. I think that we have the ability to score a lot of points, and you know, keep people from scoring points as well. So you know, there's gonna come at time this year. When that's going to happen. We're going to be in a four quarter game, a fifteen round fight, and we're going to. We're really going to see what we're made of. So we're looking forward to the to the challenges ahead of us. You don't need me to tell you what the schedule says. It says at see this weekend off week and then out at LSU. Let's start with Tennessee. First of all, you know, you know, the coach well. But in Saturday's since you had a later game, were you able to catch any of what happened down at Auburn with Tennessee. Yeah, we watched a little bit of that game. We kind of saw what was going on. You know, Tennessee played great. They played a great game. They're able to beat Auburn. So boats infla- Harpo teams play well, those very deserving teams, you know, like you said, we've got a tough schedule coming up, you know, particularly with Tennessee this week, but we're looking forward to the challenge. We know that it's going to be a hostile environment planet the planet rocky top. It's always a game that we look forward to playing against Tennessee. So like I said, we're looking forward to what you, you passed the the trick question there by not mentioning LSU. So congratulations. You tried to give you today. You're the toughest toughest player in America. Try to trip up, and I thought you were just going to go right into LSU after Tennessee, but you your true saving player so you didn't do that. But when. Game at a time, but in in terms of I interested though, since you mentioned playing at Nealon stadium, you've you've all been there. And obviously this is the place Alabama's had great success, but b before you arrived, this was, you know, one of the most fiercely competitive series in the country and Tennessee fans. Now the Jeremy is. There would like to turn it back into that. What what? What else can you offer about being in Knoxville, this weekend and playing Tennessee, which looked pretty good against Auburn. Like I said, a very hostile environment, kind of one of our one of our biggest robbery games. And I think you know, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend you know, definitely adds a little extra motivation. Now that coach prude is their head coach. He's with us for a long time. And yeah, he's phenomenal coach for us, and he's he's doing a great job with them. But I know our guys on defense are going to have a little bit of extra motivation plan against him. And like I said, it's going to be a tough place to play. They're playing with a lot of confidence right now, you know, coming off a big win against Auburn, you know, we expect them to give us their best shot and everything they got. So we need a great week of preparation. We need the best game plan in order to be able to go in there and get a win. I know before every game the there's a pretty set pattern than because they were in. The reason I asked is I ask you, you mentioned catching a few minutes of that game. The LSU Georgia game started a little bit later. I mean, are you guys able to to keep up with stuff on Saturday or the coaches have you in meetings for preparation and they don't want you look. To to far ahead. It's just kind of depends. If it's a later game, we get a little bit more time off to just kinda relaxing, get our minds. Right. So I know a lot of guys, I tell you I tune in and watch them the games. Some other SEC game, Seattle teams plan is kind of like getting a jump on the scouting report. But you know. So I think that that's good for us. And I think a lot of people tune in this week to see some of the games across the country and. Like I said, we're we're really looking forward to the upcoming games. We got coming up. Okay day ma'am. Officially waving the white flag since you wouldn't even mention the LSU. You're not going to give me to talk about LSU got Tennessee this week. I would have to go back to to broadcasting class. I know that's what you're studying at some point because I mean, I, I have a certain reputation and I've completely failed here with you. Dave. It's always great to talk to you. One of our favorite people and I hope you'll come back to thank you. I appreciate your having me gotta Damian error. So we, we spent a couple of minutes within at media days talking about his future career. In fact, when we had them up on set, we let him do some of the the ins and outs, and he did it quite quite quite a lot better than I did forever. Hope to be. We'll take a break more to come on this program as we continue on Monday afternoon, listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Pride packing then patching Torri of college. Football leaves. Here is the Paul finebaum show our one podcast more calls at eight, five, five to four to seven to eight five. Robert is up next Robert good afternoon. I don't know what in the world is wrong with album fans today. I mean, you on this. On. Robert, for whatever reason we cannot hear your call. So we're going to ask if you perhaps could call back Zach is in Gainesville Zach afternoon to you. What's going on Paul, how they're the date. So you think the Gators got a good chance against Georgia. That's neat. They're gonna smoke them. Yeah, I think I have a chance here because I was thinking, you know, LSU than it sex a Franks. I believe one time that you know LSU did the Georgia. So I think we're gonna have our way with Georgia. Well, I can hardly wait game is week after next. Let's talk to grant in college station. Hello grand. Get after noon. Paul, I'm calling to ask you about the aggies with our third ranked rush defense and twentieth ranked total defense of top fifteen offense. What should we expect as we hit them? Meet of our schedule with four five next games against SCC west opponents. Well, I think you should expect more of the same. I mean, this is a program that is exceeding. Expectations is a program is playing beyond what I thought JIMBO is capable of getting them in your one and it's been phenomenal to watch. I mean, there's still a couple of pretty big tests left, but beating Kentucky beating a, I think it really good South Carolina team at home is a significant win. Thank you very, very much. Mickey is in Georgia. Mickey, go right ahead o- role time. First of all, Paul. Paulhamus I something hair of quarterback play in the and the conference. The thing is taken in the past couple of weeks. Have we gone down a little bit. I need a sore the season. Everyone thought it was. It's never been better. But if you start looking around some of the quarterbacks that everyone expected to be great, have had ups and downs mean FitzGerald struggled. He looks like he's coming back. Bentley has clearly had some issues Kellen Mons been one of the bigger surprises stood them has been challenged to say the least from similar story there. So yeah, it, it's, it's not the same narrative. We had back in July media day. So what about Dan Mullen? Sao me, but back in the day, Florida would not have overcome twenty one to three advantage in the past. Yeah. I mean it was it was it the fake fake field goal fake, punt fake punt. That was such a great call in that game. Exactly that one more playing. I like to throw out there and this has got to do with Lanson Tennessee, Paul, you thinking he might have? No. What he was talking about when he mentioned that Laura was going to get to Atlanta? Yeah. If you last, let let me say this. Lance is looking far more precedent than Darrow from Georgia. I want to close by. If you don't mind of who as legend would say, kissed the rain by just the rain roadside tied to hear from you. Thank you very much. Mike in Knoxville place that we're calls have been at an all time low, but that could change this week. Got night. Let me tell you it's about Paul. This weekend's win over Auburn, some unbelievable, Jeremy. Pruitt. What an awesome job. I think he is doing right now. I see the team every week getting better fighting more I. It is such great day to be evolves fan, like to welcome all the tide fan into Knoxville next week. But most importantly, I would love to welcome you and. All your crew SEC nation in Knoxville and love to meet you. Well, Mike, thank you. Yeah, we, we'll be doing our show from aerosol on Friday afternoon and same place on Saturday morning and hope. All of you will come out when you can. One of our favorite stops along the way. Certainly for me it it's pretty pretty significant place to return to every year. West is in Hattiesburg west. Go right ahead. Hey, Paul, how are you doing today? Call on Friday from anywhere at Auburn. Yeah, I do remember. Well, what? What did you make out of the weekend? Well, Paul say, well, I was gonna ask you what was the atmosphere like? I watched, you know, SCC all through the morning and you know the crowd is seem dead. I mean, the stadium looked a little bit more full than I anticipated to be seen that crowd. I mean, what did you take away? Charles Barkley made a really good point Saturday morning when he was with us. He said, what's wrong with you people? This is a big SEC game show some life, and it is. I think the crowd was reflective of the mood of that program. It was very confused. It was. It wasn't angry. It was just down now. I think the attitude has changed since Saturday afternoon though. I think fans are at a point where they're beginning to seriously question the direction of the program. Oh, yeah. I mean after the week and I'm definitely a little concerned. I'm still not appoint where I'm, you know, seeing people on all over, you know, fire got them. So at that point, you know, we started that they contract. Let's see what he can do, but I do think there needs to be some major changes. I think you know, I have some current surge with the receivers. I saw drop balls. I mean, I concerned that allegory saving coach, and then I know I know he's an Auburn man, but I don't know. He's just a, you know, I don't know if it's if these, you know getting the drills done. I don't. I don't know. Off into line, I always I can turn them surprise national more problems last year. 'cause I don't know if people remember when her pain was at Penn State. They had a great quarterback Christian hackenberg by, you know, they gave up all time sacks against him. He had no protection, and I think that's starting to carry over on offense align for this year. Yeah, I think those are all really, really good points. Thank you for the call. Appreciate it very much. Paul is in Baton Rouge shallow. Paul. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you. I haven't seen conversation. I really love college football and all aspects of course to follow LSU. It was very apt with win this weekend, but I enjoy watching other teams as well. I haven't seen call this morning from a friend of mine who is not football fan, but had gone to the Redskins game this weekend. And you said he was shocked how few people were in the stands. And wondered in talking to people said this because there's less and less interest in football among the young people in that that is why they're few and free people in the stands when impact you think this will have on college football, long-term Paul? Yeah. I've been to NFL games in the pending on the place so you can see a lot of empty seats. I have great concern for college football, and it's not just an opinion. It's based on visiting with people every single week on college campuses. I've heard from athletics directors who believe the sport is that they, they're out pricing, the average fan, even even the or level fan. And I think it's a problem that needs to be addressed somehow. And I know that I don't mean act like it isn't being addressed, but I don't. I don't think there's a solution. I think the the biggest issue, our young people and saving addressed it last week. They got better things to do than sit in the stadium. They can keep up with their friends. And the game and everything else more to come as we roll on listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Hello? Everybody you're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold. 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Hour 4: 4/4/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Fried passion, then patterns re of college football lives here. The the Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast. We welcome be back. We have reached the final hour of the program. And really glad you have joined us, and we have one more hour to go. We've been busy. We had the buzz Williams press conference on a few minutes ago and just an enormous amount of energy. We've been to Minneapolis talking about the final four Auburn coach Bruce Pearl host holding a news conference there today. Another one tomorrow the game, of course is on Saturday. We had some news about will Wade from Ross Dellinger sports Illustrated's saying that Wade has hired a new attorney when these to represent we're still does represent Bruce Pearl and Shawn Miller and he's closer to a meeting with the university administration. Remember, he turned them down per his lawyers council a couple of weeks ago. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five and Hugh is into. Orleans and your next up. Hey, Hugh, Paul how you doing very well. Thank you. Yeah. I was listening to some of these guys Madison that thick. They know what LSU fans are thinking about the will wait situation. And it's sorta funny most of serious fans know that from new from Cobra or whenever it was he was subpoenaed that he was on Tinder ground and and with the. Tape came out. Nobody expects to see him back. No matter what what what we don't like as Duke lacrosse, leva sewing him under the bus and throwing the team onto the boss the way, he did it the way he acted just like he did with less files. And and so many other times these incompetent athletic direct care. Ask your question, if I could interrupt, and by the way, it is a fact the Joe Leyva was in charge at Duke, and that turned out to be one of the greatest embarrassments, and and one of the gravest injustices in intercollegiate history. How much of the the? Attention toward we'll wait or the wanting of. We'll Wade to come back has to do with the the animus toward Joe alita or Mike confusing. My my situations down there. Not totally don't think I don't think they care whether I mean weights innocent, they would like like him to come back if they want a fair a fair hearing is that what you're seeing a fair hearing, and he did not get a fair hearing under a leva. Okay. Ah liba. We also think leave a through the team under the bus by by that. I mean, if let's face it the fight did what he did is accused of then he deserves to be fired. No doubt in shown Qasr worse than Bruce Pearl. But. To do it quite as we're going into the NC double as if if he did it. We're gonna forfeit every game in the season. No matter what you're right. Why not give them the best chance to to win? And I mean did Massachusetts stopped timing. The winds that they had the bay Cade when Calipari dot com. Doing whatever it was. So long ago is the hell Obama ever denied a win that they were forced to vacate or Southern Cal, you know? So so basically, you know. He was a lever was showed his further incompetence and lack of character. And that's what most people feel back. Yeah. If weights innocent we'd love to have him back. But nobody expects him to be back. Whether he's innocent or not because who would go work for liba. We hugh. I I must say your call has opened my eyes. And I I think I've been like everyone else. But sometimes when you're watching a story in real time, you you tend to be influenced by the influencers. And in this case Joel leaves decision. Did did did did start the narrative in an extremely an extraordinarily negative way. Toward we'll wait. I get what you're saying. I think for the first time, and maybe I'm late to the party. I do understand what what people are saying down there. I I I mean, obviously, they're going to be people who are knee jerk reaction and say, well, he, you know, proven guilty that he should come back or he's, you know, he's obviously a pretty accomplished coach. Oh, yeah. Coach, Ian, people want away. I think one of the other things I don't think LSU was singled out. Don't get me wrong on that. But I think there's a body of thought that what he did he was stupid to get taped. But this is going on throughout college basketball. And maybe it'd be better if he blew the whole thing up. I mean, do you think he was you know, you got mentioned spun Miller, you know, Bruce barrel has lost to assistance, not cast being any aspersions on Bruce. It's a system. You know? Do you think we'll wait was the only coach doing this? Of course. Yeah. God God prominent players. It's a it's a stinky system. What's terrible? You're absolutely right. You know, maybe it'd be better if he blew it up. Did you ever coach again? But no, well, yeah. No, he. Coaches had done that before I remember. There was a time thirty five years ago. Digger Phelps a former Notre Dame coach gave an interview, and he said everyone's cheating, and you and I both know everyone is to a degree. It's just a matter of of the methods you use right? Well, I. They're they're looking for an edge as a difference between looking for an edge. And and. You know, if again if he did what he's accused of even if he's not alone. He should pay. But I think if he did what he's accused of maybe in maybe the guy that's going to trial. If he was smart. He would he would. Name all the coaches he dealt with. Well, you know, what he may? He may very well have that opportunity when he's sworn in New York courtroom. I'll bet there are a lot of coaches listening with with fear and trepidation and met. There are hey, thank you very much. Great hall. Really? I mean, we have had to in lightning calls from Louisiana. And I I'll tell you what I'm I'm somewhat at a loss. This is a confusing situation. But I do think we're starting to two separate. What has been going on? And what is currently going on? And why the fans at least of LA shoe feel the way they do about. We'll way we're up against a break. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. It's been a busy one today. We're not done yet. We're coming back to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back is we continue. It's been a busy busy day. Just listening to a report during our break from Minneapolis where the Auburn Tigers just two days away from taking on the university of Virginia. Let's get back to the calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and Tim is in Cupertino, California. Tim, Paul how are you all my legal? This is not just some Tim. This is Tim cook. The CEO of of apple, and of course, everyone's favourite Auburn fan, Tim. It's great to have you on. I can only imagine your level of excitement. For your alma mater, could not be more thrilled in. You're not really wish the best to coach Pearl and the entire team. We are incredibly proud of them. I got such a kick out of you the other night. I'm not sure I would call it sparring. It was very good natured fun with the chairman and CEO of. I think it was Cisco who is a UNC. Chuck Roberts is a UNC fan. I haven't seen you too often battling with people on Twitter about college basketball. But you know, it was Carolina, and it was Auburn. And so yeah, it was a it was a such a sweet victory for us. It was it was amazing. I listen. I I think it's pretty well established. You've been very busy in the news. But I I am interested because I've seen some of your tweets just if you could take back to both of those games, and and how you were able to consume them and. And I would imagine you were quite quite excited. And I know very proud o- on on believably. So and yeah, so I was yelling so loud. I think my neighbors thought that something happened to me. I remember when we sat down with you a couple years ago, you told a similar stories about some Auburn football games. But I would think by now your your neighborhood is well aware of your of your phantom. Would that be a fair statement? I don't know about that. You know, it's not every day that somebody yelled war eagle and people don't exactly know how to react to that. In california. How what are your plans for for Saturday in terms of viewing this game? Saturday. I'll be watching on TV, and I plan to be there in impersonal Monday. Oh my goodness. Well, that's a that's a pretty big scoop and a major commitment. Well, listen, I I know you have a lot going on. I don't want to keep you. But I can't thank you for sharing your your excitement with the rest of the audience on this program, and we are going to be watching very closely. If Auburn gets I've got by the way, when you were at Auburn, I'm trying to remember the program in the. In the eighties was just starting to percolate. If I remember right before Barclay got there and Barkley really went when he was there. It was. He he really started a huge change in. And and we're back to that. Which is fantastic. I've I've seen you interact with coach malzahn. I I'm interested in your thoughts about the Bruce Pearl because he has been such an inspiration. It's a classic case of someone who was on top got knocked down. And is right back rolling toward the final four today. Yeah. I think I think BRUCE'S unoriginal, and there's nobody quite like him. And I think he's energized the program like no one, quite frankly that I've ever seen in in Auburn history and has brought the basketball team to to be a contender. And I think we're all proud of him in in terms of just an I'll I'll contain this to Auburn. But you you you are such an interesting fan, especially for someone in your position. And I brought up to the situation the other night because when. When she does get together. I realized there are far more important things to discuss when when when when those meetings occurred, but when you're with a CEO of of another major company does athletics enter into the conversation when when there was time, you take I think sports is still a great unifier. And so it's one thing that we can all rally around and people put their other interest aside to either fight the other side or to hopefully, join forces, and and so yeah, of course, sports always comes up to ios are people too. They they love sports too. I'm glad you said that because I think so too often we end up, you know, we we see and you've been so prominent lately with so many of of Apple's new endeavors, and I've seen you people from every walk of life. But I think sometimes we forget which you just got through saying, but but I know you're a sports fan because I watch out here and I listened in. You're always so complementary to all programs when when you get the opportunity so again Saturday, you'll be watching Monday night, you will be in the arena. That's have you been to a national championship game. If assuming Auburn wins I have been to one before I saw Duke will win back just a few years ago. Yeah. And Indianapolis, you know, I whisper this here on our network, but you do have a degree from from Duke as well. I do and you know, my bracket head Auburn and Duke and the final. That's amazing. You would have been in quite a quite a predicament, Tim if if Duke it advance in Auburn it advantage. But you know, the way I looked at it. You can't lose. That that that is pretty remarkable. I I know considering your your Duke fan as well you when the Carolina game was over. I'm sure you. You got a big smile your face. It exactly exactly. It's like is like Auburn beating Alabama. Well, that does happen occasionally to listen. I can't take enough. I I've had as you know, a number of surprise calls in my in my career. I don't think I've ever had one quite to this to degree or extent. And I will never forget getting a call from Tim from Cupertino, California knowing that was you best wishes to you as all those in. And I hope to see you Monday night in Minneapolis. I hope so too. Thank you for all you do. And thank all your listeners out there. More eagle were you go from Tim cook? Thank you, Tim hopes about well. Men. For those. We don't know the backstory marquee Biak who is a producer of the show. And I spent some some time. A couple of days. I my add with Tim cook about two years ago in Auburn doing the very first of our homecoming series. I had met him at J Jacob's house a couple years ago with his nephew and. He's just one of the most fascinating people. And and what a cool thing that was. I mean, I think it speaks for itself. What what he's done and the the impact and influence that he has on the world. Well, I'm going to have to find myself recover here. After after that one. That's really really really neat. Let's grab Clinton next. It's tough fouling. Tim cook Clinton next in Rome, Georgia go right ahead. Good evening. Do Santa a couple of things are as wanting to mention just sitting here driving thinking about Auburn being in the final four. I'm an Alabama fan basketball fan too. And just thought about Cami was just kinda thinking, you know, I've listened you guys for years, and it was just kind of thinking, you know, how you'd be responding to all been in the final four. I I could just imagine her screaming and yelling war. Yeah. I have to tell you Quint. I thought about that Sunday, and it was pretty emotional thinking about because she she would've. She would found a way there promise you. I remember when Auburn went to the national championship game in two thousand ten she she drove out to California or maybe it was the. Where did they play for? It was Aaron Tony. I'm sorry. Yeah. They they want an Arizona, and she drove out there without a ticket. And I don't remember whether she I think she did get finally getting the game. And it was pretty extrordinary hearing those stories, but I'm I'm glad you brought her up she so special to this program, and we miss her every day. Just one quick question. Been Alabama basketball fan four years ago. When coach Johnson was hired. How close I'm it was Alabama in the running for Bruce Pearl. I love there's no greatest. Here's what happened. Bruce Poro went to Auburn the year before there. There was some conversation in twenty four teen that Auburn that Alabama might get rid of Anthony grant. And and go after Bruce Perot, I know some people from BRUCE'S camp, let it be known that he would be interested in talking if if that ever came up, but Alabama decided to stay with Anthony grant and Auburn scooped up, Bruce Pearl. Well, big big deal for all burnt, congratulations to those guys with some of the best. But but rolls out thanks for day. Thank you very much. Great to hear from you. Let's continue with more calls and frito is in Florida. Hello freida. Faye? Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. I'm going to be rooting for Auburn on the Florida fan. But I just have one quick question for you. Why do you hate Bruce Pearl so much? I got that question earlier. And I thought all right. What what alternate university living. I've just wished you'd say one nice thing about the man. Okay. I'm working on it. I'm I'm going to. Listen, I'm I I I've had a real I mean, Bruce, and I have known each other a long time and one thing about him. I gave an interview a year ago and someone asked me or a very specific question. And I gave a I thought it was very accurate answer in the next day. He called me. So what are you? What are you? What are you? What are you doing? That's well Br I mean, I it was it was a typical headline that was not exactly accurate, and I explained it to him and he was fine. But but he does care and I thought he made a good point the other day. He he cares about those that he cares about. And if somebody takes his shot at him that he doesn't know or he doesn't get overly concerned about it. Hey, thank you for the call. I don't know how to review the last few minutes, but we've had a number of really great, callers, including one from Tim cook. So we'll just head to the break and keep rolling the phones on a Thursday afternoon. We're coming right back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Clamming a spring break getaway. Well with the Capital One venture card. You were an unlimited double miles on any purchase. You make today and every day and those miles add up to get you closer to that trip to paradise every vanilla soy latte. Double miles every time. You pump gas double mile, even when you buy a set of monogram beach towels yet double miles you weren't unlimited double miles on every purchase. And then you go. The Capital One venture card the card that takes you there. What's in your wallet went back USAA, vulgar back? Yeah. We have had pretty much a murderer's row here in the last few minutes. We just got a call from Tim cook. The CEO of apple talking about his beloved Tigers. And now we have dick vitelle. It was a made official yesterday that he will receive the lifetime sports. Emmy and New York in may in dicta, we can congratulate you to the end of time. But I don't think we'll do Justice. Congratulations again. Well, thank you, really cook on it. I would love to listen. Favorite? We could switch back accounts. Yeah. He we we've got a little bit over the years, and he just called us out of the blue the he said he's going to be in Minneapolis Monday night. If is if the Auburn can beat Virginia, which is I guess where I'm going to ask you next. Give us your view of that early game in Minneapolis. Well, I'm doing that game. You know, I'm doing the first game Bilas due to second game. But don't do the TOPIX of a Monday night. You know, I think really paper right now, obviously, you looked at Auburn rely so much on your motion, and the leadership whose Pearl got a second chance, obviously after five years to Asia where he could not coach at the collegiate level that he took advantage of it who would ever believe I put it up on Twitter pool. Think about this would ever believe in a matter of about ten days that offer what does look at football. Now, we're not talking Bo Jackson avenue in little. We're taught to basketball that they would be Kansas, Kentucky and North Carolina. Think about that. But believable what they achieve and then you kinda amount. I thought for sure gets Kentucky they would have trouble because they that will keep on the inside to try and battle with the likes of Washington. I thought only chance that would have would make at least twelve threes. They average about Olympic day. It makes. Agrees that game. But they're Gorringe off the charts routed Harper with fifty points. But I think it'd be tough for them to do just that tech line. Defense of Virginia Virginia's gonna definitely slowed it down. They're not really get up and down to court, and I think back to be a little different. Well, you know, you don't those kids out now. No, you can't. Yeah. Everyone. I think thought Friday night at the after the Carolina game that oh key being out was was going to be critical. But sometimes dick, and I'm really interested where you are here. And you know, the the quick turnaround. You just somehow will your way to victory, but with the week to prepare it will be a different situation as you said just I want to get your thoughts on on Bruce. Because a lot of people wondered, and I know we talked about at the time when he went to Auburn because it it seemed like a long shot. It seemed it getting to the final four long shot for everyone. But what makes him so unique in and especially from a motivational stamp when he? Seems to get these players believing. They can do things that maybe they shouldn't be able to do. Well, that's a good analysis. Right there, you give all he really does ability to motivate. He's everywhere he's ever been whether it be southern Indiana spol- level. He's won every place. He's been took Tennessee pixie over year to tourmament while I was there, and it was his mistakes really cost the job. Now. I think it'd be there forever. Be made those mistakes the NCI paid his dues. And you get a second opportunity for people get second chance. I really am. I I think like we have a tendency when a guys down at out we beat up the beat up, and we don't let them come back like Tinos don't don't right now. He's at his case, you think about it. I put it up Twitter through a lot of people don't agree with me. But that's cool. I could understand that you know, he's never been structured coach was arrested. He never had a show 'cause rich never had a storage. We had a set off five years dot coach. But yet because everybody we should know. What is he should've know what he's like? He's already paid to use coaching life. And I would like to see a we'll give him an opportunity like they get Kelvin sips. Local what it was all situation had plummeted yet as well. But usually a chance, and he took advantage of it and a CPA groups. I assume guys the ticket vintage what to come your way instead of being up. I love people. I love people. I mean, she didn't because because you we've been spending a lot of time here on this program talking about the will Wade situation, we don't know everything. But what we know is pretty pretty scary. And I know you've offered some opinions on that as well is that a different situation. Then Rick totally different unique. Because he's on what the FBI little talk about. Lisa don't assistant on. You're talking about the doctor told her twenty foot players would have been a sleazy dying back on. I mean that is serious stuff. But I mean, I I hope appraisement things we're able to believe the, but I can't see it. I just cannot see where he's not going to get penalized. Seriously about that as in, you know, really to brand of what I would cook in the other day, really when you think about LSU routes the fire immediately unin slip supported he refused to go to meeting with the president yet. They didn't do that they suspended a I think the speed. That's really, I don't know. I was really disappointed to hear the fans Channing Joel Mus go. What what do the guys take? It's guy state. Right. Think he said this by twenty centers. And yet, I I thought it would a job, and I was on a radio. Valerie heated here up at LSU. They were only doing their job. I liked Bill issues. Blair's light your team the program for years, Dale Brown. But I'm already telling facts, I mean, it's not me saying, we'll wait created his own problem, which is listening. If listen to read his comments, we have heard the actual is boys who read the comments are unbelievable. Yeah. I I read about your your appearance down. There it sounded. Like it got pretty, hey. But that's one thing about you, dick. I mean, you give your opinion you're passionate you've always have been. And that's why I think you know, you being honored in New York, you're in your in your being outed, so many other places because of what you've done, and and and the fact that. Hurt. Anybody? I really don't let that guy you talking about the class review. Amidst chaotic I also play Minneapolis into fads the whole bit there so friendly so great. But I do it interview. Ready? Pull twice to sit. You I promised. I would do it and the play Atlanta just type by duty interview airport with you ready for this alleged alleged of all time journalism. Sid Hartman, you know, sit. Sure, do what was nice, maybe maybe open. He just turned ninety. The look he makes me say like a diaper. He's like he's by two hero ninety nine. Go. Look, I'll be eighty really for this. I would it be eighty and another was another month another. I'll be eighty eighty. Oh my goodness. About twelve eighty. I can't believe it. I can't hear. I mean, I'm interested because I mean, dick. You're seventy nine years old. You don't seem like any of that phases. You. I love people. I keep in shape. I I love being around. You know, really people. You asked me now writers, what seems to be a key. Bottom line is as energy principle. What I do whenever you do something you love. It's not working lifelock other work, man. You press coats factory came all sweatshop. They walked the wolf from six to twelve basically that was devas- security does work dot up. Get paid get paid Saturday. A Monday it quits to be on ESPN tonight. All over the world talking about doing the states talking about a game. I love and get paid for it about could want to play about that. I've been so blessed, look, but prep goes up, my friend get aches now little aches the lakes, but basically what else start off at seven in the morning about sports center and a couple of band appearances to make glove you so autographs and fix them money. Trying to. Catch you played actually. The life. This isn't it? It's not really always bona grown a complaint ripped people at people. I'm just not that kinda guy. Well, I'm gonna let you rest your voice because you got a lot more to do. But we always appreciate you checking in with us addict, get crew relations again on the on the EMMY and thank you as always you've been. I've I've been talking. Something like that. I sit here and all I don't blow that Lee guys on that list Howard Cosell on bad and keep Jackson. Oh my God. I look at that list that I begin to shit 'cause I never went on good casting thinking about something like that. But more important to me before I go, you know, I was going to get this out. More important reason money for kids battling cancer. It's going to be a special night of may ten. We the sell out tickets going crazy. Anybody wants to Mason could just call nine one three five. Oh, five eight, oh, Dabo Sweeney going to be one of our headline is to otter basically all the money. I'm raising for kids battled cancer. Anybody wants to vote a copy of my new book by mount Rushmore is the basketball just go to by tau on my dot com. And if you did autograph copy and every time, I just said another check with thirty six thousand already off to the foundation early seals on the book. So again, they can help me help kits. Always a pleasure. Dick have a great weekend in Minneapolis to do you. Go back a long way that you go back to my days when I say what you. Oh, yeah. Now, I let's sit around and talk about that one because it was a major speaking to the team. I was in tears listening. I wish I wished the whole world could could listen to you. When you talk to those players. Well, when I appreciate that, buddy. Dick had a great weekend. We'll talk to you soon. Dick vitelle, and what a combination Tim cook. Dick clientele who would have thought. It's only Thursday. We'll take a break. A few more minutes of your phone calls. I don't know who who's left during one out there to call in to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Hey, it's Dan Patrick here to tell you about the Dan Patrick school. The sportscasting up teamed up with full sail university to create a sports casting bachelor's degree you work both on and behind the cameras and you build skills for the future of sports. So you can connect with audiences. No matter where they are or how their tune in learn more about full sail. Universities Dan, Patrick school to sportscasting by going to full sail dot EDU slash ESPN. Welcome back. Let's check in with Bill in Charleston, South Carolina Alabel. Hey, paul. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes. You sound great. But obviously not on an apple phone. By the way, you have to come down to the mountain sometime. I mean, Tim cook and Dickie v. Now, you gotta talk to Bill in Charleston. Okay. Listen, I'm done with being up in the clouds. Anyway, just wanna call. We'd talked some time back about UNC and their issues. There's another article at the New York Times, and it's something what let me let me pull it up for your college. Sports want to one colon a UNC read that today. Yeah. There's a there's a professor there teaching a course about cheating in college athletics. Yes. He's a history. Professor who's actually his expertise is in pre revolutionary France. Now, a fascinating article. Oh, yeah. That's that's just the tip of the the iceberg. If you if you we talked earlier about bringing on the Dan Kane that reporter from right? Yeah. Exactly. Hopefully using zurve. I think it's time. I think the reason why it's time is we're not gonna stick the UNC players at all we're not gonna thick that, you know, ROY Williams and in their search for another national title. So I think it might be a good time to give exposition to all of that. I really do. Yeah. We have somebody on tomorrow who is an expert. On that subject. But but that's really good suggestion Bill. I'm glad you brought it up. Yeah. I really think it's important. It's important for the game. I think it's important. I literally for the nation's us. I really believe that. I think there needs to be some some sort of. I guess sanction is is the best thing. I can come up some sort of penalty for what happened because I mean, the the fraud went on again from ninety three to two thousand eleven in the seventeen years in about fifteen hundred athletes about same number from the student body. But of course, a huge proportional difference between the student athletes and the the the general population of the school. And by the way, this guy confirmed in the article in New York Times. And in fact, the athlete department didn't back divorce guide their student athletes to these courses, and the real question is how many were really ineligible because of the fact they did not take a real course and got credit, for course, either for hours or for GPA kept them eligible. Which may in fact, you know, causes to take a hard look at ACC championships and also one or two national championships for the basketball. No, you're right. It's. It is such a great point. I'm glad you brought that up again Bill. We'll have we'll get into a little bit tomorrow. But I I'd like to get that professor on. There was a fantastic. I mean, he and he's not cutting a he's not sugar coating it either. He's teaching what really happened. No, it it attacked his academic credentials that they're basically UNC the credibility of their their their institution the academy. If you will they're Laden term from himselves, well that that's cool. Is you know has been through presidents and chancellors the chancellor is on our way out now. And when they when they get when they finally dig up all the skeletons they'll be lucky if if the lights were store on well, I just need things need to lay out what really happened on this guy. Dan, cane, he can laid off three hundred in very basic terms, and he will not embellish. I talked to the guy one time and seems straightforward. I will I will get on that he's taking a lot of hits. I mean death threats. He told oh, listen, I I can I cannot imagine. I mean, I'm dealt with some Yahoo. Carolina fan just for giving an opinion. I can't imagine digging up a story that puts the entire basketball program in the university's accreditation in jeopardy. Oh, absolutely. But but it's so so deep and so long nobody wants to touch it now because it is it is it is by the way. What is the one thing? The NCAA always gets school. And what is the one thing? They always gets. I'm sorry. Oh, control. Yeah. Whoa. It was out of control for seventeen. It was a classic case of of a school gone gone crazy. But it I think that case speaks more about the NC double A than it does about UNC. They just throw up their hands. And basically said we do not have the the jurisdiction when it comes to academic fraud. I I was told that by people very close to the situation. Thank you very much Bill. Always a pleasure. Really really do. Appreciate it Gilly is in Chattanooga on this Thursday afternoon. Are there? I just want us. I I don't know whether this is April or Christmas for me to to follow dick by towel and Tim cook awhile and be speaking with with who I considered to be the most respected and professional sports talk host in journalist and in America. It's a it's a it's been a real honor. Just thank you very much looks great to have you on. Well, thank you. I just wanted to kind of throw. Kinda commiserate with Hugh from LSU. And so don't be too quick to judge your coach. I'm from Tennessee. And I was big burst Pearl fan. And. We had a athletic director named Hamilton Hussein to. Oh, yeah. I remember him in his own interest. Throughout coats under the bus. Without a due process. So so I just like to to to tell the pants that it tends say, we once had burst Pearl. And we had a kind of like, let's use got in this. He may be good guy. I don't know. But until all the facts come out. I wouldn't necessarily side with a a day director such as what I had at Tennessee Hamilton. Who is now gone. And I looked at all the trouble that this athletic director has caused at university over the years. And I just wanted to tell Hugh and the LSU fans. I know a lot of people are against you right now. The core the mainstream media and toward the public opinion. But but go slow. In your judgment. You just never know. So gilly. Thank you, a very compelling. Call really great stuff, and we've had pretty amazing show here. So somebody great gas. We had the buzz Williams press conference. He knocked it out of the park in college station. Tim cook joined us surprise call their dick vitelle if you missed any of it. You can catch the podcast on the ESPN app and the apple podcast. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? But pride passion and patron Torri of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast second hour live and underway. Well, we've primarily talked about the whirlwind situation. It remains a major topic ever since the news broke late Sunday night that he has been reinstated. We don't know more than that. We'll find out hopefully, a little bit more later on when Glenn Gilboa joined us a lot of spring games as well. Not many left. Georgia is coming up Saturday mortgage phone calls at eight five seventy five to four to seven two eight five in Burke is in Kentucky, and you are next up. Hey bark. Paul Frey taking my call. Thanks. Just my mainly. Call about Kentucky football, and what has been able to do building this program. A look at the schedule and the cancer. We had four games this year. I really think that this is another season where they could finish second the SEC, you know, of course, behinds to because we gotta go to act, but I just see I see stoops building a program that is going to be Steph gonna stick around for a while. I don't think last year was wanted done. And and I was wanting to get your thoughts on that. Yeah. I don't either Burke in. Even though he's losing Snell and Allen and several other really good players to me. The schedule is the difference. No road game to college station. I think I'm trying to remember I think that was replaced by a home game with Arkansas that's a good, and you know, the Athens games. Oh, Georgia always going to be a tough game. But beyond that, I think he I think whether whether he taught whether equals what happened last year. I think nine wins in the regular season. Very doable. Allegory paul. I I would I would probably say, I just hope I really think I went berry awful with coming at a bowl victory falsely. But. That South Carolina game in Columbia, South Carolina, white game, the ideas, and I think I think we've been filed scraped yields. So I mean there was one though. But I think that's a very pivotal thing. That could really be the difference twin another special things interested good season. But it's all today. But thank you, very very much. Lanny and bowling green is up next. Go right ahead. Didn't get the call there. Let me try Mike in Georgia. Mica you're on the air. You're next up. Hey, paul. I just wanted to say, I know that you in in John the gel didn't pick tiger the other day. I called about the masters the both of you did pick him to come in the top ten and big ten John actually pick team pity kept going to come in number one. So he came in number two. So that's really pretty good picking. Yeah. Well, thank you. Yeah. I didn't I thought he would win eventually. But I didn't think it would be this weekend. We have. And I it came a little faster than I thought. But what is I mean? It was just a a great joyous tournament. I know I left here tournament. I went to the convenience store. Of course, this is a small town and everybody says Hello everybody. But I said Hello does the money that was going into the store, and he just looked at me. And he goes Tiger Woods, you know. Yeah. I was trying to think in the irony of of all this happening today on the on Jackie Robinson's birthday, it it just seems you know, there are very few moments in in sports that that are like this. I had the privilege of being an Augusta that week when he won for the first time in ninety seven right? And it was it was it was a transcendent moment in sports history of the audience that day was larger than than any other golf audience. And probably I think last night had the has a masters ended at seven o'clock, it probably would have been equal to that. Absolutely, right. It. The one thing that was different that was a different story. I mean that was there was there was a a an edge to that story. Tiger was very polarizing primarily because of his father and yesterday. I didn't find anyone who wasn't excited by. I mean, you had you had the president of the United States of Donald Trump. You just played with tiger about three weeks ago and the previous President Barack Obama both sending out tweets nearly simultaneously the idea that President Obama and President Trump agreed on something. It's pretty amazing. And I think there in lies the the unification of of of the world, I think Tiger Woods at forty three. He looks old and he looked old and washed up, and he and he turned out not to be, and that's a comeback story that only sports can provide. Well, you're right about pollen. It was a great comeback story. You know when tiger I came along. I mean, they wasn't my favorite golfer. I thought he was. Brash. Well, he was brash and not that he's there, and he didn't fit in my tiny little box of what I thought, you know, golfers should be. And you know, I had them, you know, my feelings of that time, Tori, and he just literally come to appreciate him over, you know, as time going by and looked at what he's overcome kinda like when we were talking about Bruce Pearl and what he's sacrificed to get back to the position. He's a now and lived at tiger in that same framework. And anyway, there's just a lot of joy there. And a lot of Admiral one more thing I Mike in ninety seven. There was a it was a it was a cultural edge to that. For a lot of reasons I on never forget. And you've probably seen the pictures of it when Tiger Woods was walking back to the clubhouse. Some of the the attendants were were coming. They they came out, and we're clapping. I mean, it was a moment. Whether you want to go back down this road or not. Where we're an African-American winning at a place that in many people's mind had, you know, it was one of the last bashes of seclusion and it. Too many people tried to turn that into a political message was it was it was a sports moment. It wasn't a political moment. But because of where it was and because of the history of the south in general, I'm not picking on Gus that it was no different than any other place. It it it did it did seem to wake on a lot of emotions in people yesterday wasn't about anything other than a sports comeback. A man who who overcame the depths of despair, personal demons of of of both physical and emotional destruction. Most of it self inflicted now. Even the back, you could argue he did he did some of that to himself, by the way, he played the game there there were you couldn't find fault in anything. He did. And that's why I think so many people celebrated it yesterday, and we're going to continue to celebrate. I agree with you. And and people do come to change their mind. I knew I we're about the same as ball. And I mean, this is going back a little bit. But everybody now remember, Jack Nicklaus. Always be this love figure, but agrue idolizing Arnold Palmer. Jack Nicklaus was a threat to him. And I didn't like Jack, Nick. Well, if you don't know. Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up. I mean, Jack came along as a pudgy Twenty-one year old son of of privilege now, I say privilege. His father was a pharmacist I believe which is a great job. But it's, but it's not exactly like being the son of of the chairman of Goldman Sachs. Okay. Right. And Arnold was the this this cigarette smoking sauna, they greenkeeper from Latrobe Pennsylvania and everyone loved him and good battery in different. It was never dull and nNcholas took the mantle away from him. And he never gave it back and a lot of people. Resent Jack Jack got older when he was forty six and won the masters. We all sat around and cried because Forty-six back then seemed. It's interesting seems pretty young right now to me. But that's just shows you the and I saw some of that yesterday. I mean, I I mean Tiger Woods was no longer that three year old on the Mike Douglas show. He was a forty three year old who looked like he lived every every year every every day of those forty three years. Absolutely, absolutely. There's been quite a journey. And anyway, I appreciate all you guys perspective on it. I mean, it came it came in the same seven-day period as as Virginia winning the national championship kinda hard to believe that was only a week ago after getting knocked out. And I mean, that's what separates sports from everything else. Every once in a while, you'll see a comeback story and entertainment, but nothing like sports. I it just it just knocks down all the barriers that that people try to put up we're up against a break. And there could be number another comeback story. He didn't get a chance to start at Georgia. But what about Ohio State? Then Murphy joins us with the latest on Justin fields. Pride passion than patron Torri of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast talking to the break about all the quarterbacks in Justin fields front center. Dan number for joining us. He saw the game the other day, Dan, thanks for the time. So we're we're speculating about something we don't really know the answer to you were there. What did it look like to you? When you saw Justin play. He certainly looks the part I think anybody who saw many uniform last year or two knows that too. But he's not a finished product. I think that's the main takeaways that he's not Dwayne Haskins. He's not NFL ready to Steph end. He's got a great arm. He's fast. He's going to be able to run the ball lot in. This offense is gonna be able to take advantage of that. But he still has a lot of work to do both in polishing his own game. And also learning the Ohio State playbook, which which took the, you know, the guys that have come before him a couple years to really fully digest. He's just a few months into it. It's going to be a stop and start process. I think along the way before he gets really comfortable running that offense. And there was an issue Georgia. I mean, he was trying to learn on the fly, but he was way behind from the beginning. And just couldn't quite catch up a having settled that people that are familiar with him. Just think the upside is remarkable. What what do you think are some of the biggest issues he'll have to figure out what Ryan day is putting on the field? Up there. Yeah. And I agree. The upside is fantastic through one passes. Probably fifty yards out in the field from his own endzone and it up in a ninety eight yard touchdown. He clearly has the tools to be really really good. And he's got an offense of playbook that can make him really good one of the challenges. He faces that not only does he have a new coach and he's got a new team. But a lot of the pieces that were around Wayne Askins that made this Ohio State offense good a year ago or gone to. It was three other top were receivers Paris Campbell, Johnny Dixon. Terry MacLaurin is the guy who's going to be creeping up draft boards for the next couple of weeks. Those guys weren't only talented receivers. But they're kind of leaders the offense. They've got four new offense of linemen starters. So there's going to be a lot of moving pieces around fields that need to fit in. And he's going to have to take over group. That's all of them are going to be learning on the fly here when the twenty nine hundred season start get started giving him some more background on on Ryan days of into this job. It seemed pretty good during the first three games before urban. Came back. I realized we don't know yet. But what's your best? Guess. Well, one of the things that struck me this weekend is for the past three or four months. Everything at Ohio State has seemed like such a easy succession plan, the passing of the torch between urban and Ryan day was incredibly smooth the passing of the torch from Dwayne Haskins than just field steps in the very same week to come and take over it felt like most people felt it was sort of preordained that he was going to get this waiver to play right away and seemed like there was any concerns this weekend. We got the first sense of well, this might be a little bit of work in progress. There's still the potential for things to pick up right where they left off. But it's not an automatic deal day. Obviously has a ton of great experience. He's really smart guy. One of the most interesting things that I think he has to figure out is he's taking over a program that was run by a guy who wins nine out of everything games, he coaches, and that guy still has an office right down the hall from him. How is Ryan day of first time head coach going to be sure to put his own stamp on this program and not just try to be the next. Urban Meyer rather than the first Ryan day people that I've talked to that are close to him are really competent that he's going to be fine doing that that he's got a good sense of what makes him a good coach and how he's going to be able to do that. But to me that's probably the biggest challenge facing him at a program that that's almost as close as you get to program that doesn't take step back anywhere in college football. And let me ask you about the aforementioned urban Meyer when Bob stoops retired Oklahoma. He was pretty much everywhere. It was a big part of the program you mentioned urban office. I I've read these teaching ethics clash, and we also know he's going to work for FOX on TV is he seen much around there. He's around campus and around the program still obviously, it was interesting on on Saturday, which was sort of the first public day per Ryan day to to be the head coach since the Rosebowl urban was was nowhere to be seen. He showed up on the video board wants it once or twice when they're showing highlights from the previous season. But he wasn't on the sideline. He wasn't around. There really wasn't any mention of him or the you know, they brought the twentieth. Eighteen teen back to get their rings. And the revenge of former players who were hanging around both from that team from the championship team a few years before that the national championship team. But but Meyer wasn't around that I have to assume that that was at least somewhat intentional to make sure to give Ryan day in this new coaching staff space, they need to really establish themselves as the new faces of Ohio State. Then reminders complex. We all know that in last August there were varying opinions, although we saw one hundred or two people stand outside and protest the media and everyone else when he was suspended, but what would you say based on your visits there and your interaction with people? What do people really think about urban Meyer and what he left behind from the winning? We know that we know they like that. Yeah. I think in Columbus. He is going to be remembered really fondly now, obviously the the final season in what happened last August definitely put a dent in his legacy. And he said as much when he stepped down in December. He said he would love to Lodhi and pretend like that wasn't going to be a thing. But of course, it's something that's going to be always a footnote on what he did there. But he took a program and an elevated it in Columbus. And I think for most of that time he was seen as a guy who was doing things the right way and building a program on on sort of solid ground ethical, moral whatever you want to see in a head coach. And you know, I think that people still feel that as as reflected by the fact that he's currently teaching a class on campus in leadership in ethics. So if there was questions about whether or not they still felt he had those things clearly the universities still sees that in him. And it's, you know, a pretty full class from what I understand. But I think that the student body and the other people around campus still see him as somebody who was at. Absolutely a net gain for state somebody. They're happy that will supposedly at least at this point finishes career as it Ohio State coach I tried to sign up for urban class. But I was rejected. Do you know anyone who's been in there? And what does he talk about? The pre recs are tough. I think I have not I've seen a few stories and talk to a couple of people that that saw Mike Leach's class in person. I think urban spend a little bit more closed off on on offering that. And I think he and gene Smith of have it's not only just a class that they've established what they're trying to to build sort of a leadership institute of some degree where they're bringing a lot of athletes in from different teams and trying to workshop leaders leadership attributes and sports specifically from that front too. So I think they're still feeling out a little bit exactly what his role is going to be and how he's going to stay involved in Columbus, which I think is was was an important thing to him when he decided he was done coaching that he wanted to stay involved somehow in helping students and helping athletes specifically figure out how to be good leaders. But part of that seems to be still a work in progress. I think it's been pretty closed off to the public thus far. Okay. I just thought I won't take it personally then. Hey, thanks, Dan, great w on she had a very much. You bet. Thanks, Paul dimmer fy joining us. That would be cool class to to listen in on. We are heading toward the break. We're going to talk to Glenn Guilbeault in the next hour on the complex decision, not explained very well by LSU officials of bringing will Wade back, but for how long in more of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five also talked to Todd Blackledge he was in Tuscaloosa Saturday getting a firsthand look at the tide Nick Sabin heading for hip replacement. Something probably surgery we're coming right back. Tried then patron Torri of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show our podcast. We are going to talk to Glenn Gilboa a little later on. But the worldwide situation and Jay is up next. How are you? Jay. We are doing great. Thank you. Hey, I'll call you a couple of weeks ago and. I don't know whether you remember the call and it was about away. And you you gave me the civic, quote, you know, that take I don't take the wire tap, or whatever you call it. And I told you, and I said, you know, you know, Paul it wasn't methods to civically mentioned in that. But an offer. And then yeah, I bet the crew that was involved in this. And he said, well, he came to LSU and he's on the team and he's playing and I said, well, evidently, he didn't he didn't receive anything come to shoes that correct? And you never did answer the question. But I told you I said, you know, what I said since nothing was fifth but mentioned in that were test and that recruit ended up coming to LSU anyway. And I'm sure they checked him out of the if he got any kind of pay or productivity anything come to L is shit. I say, where's the crab? And I don't know you kept talking about. Well, it didn't say on ride or whatever, you know. And and. Well, I'll put my money on he's gonna walk out of this. And you say, yeah, he's gonna walk it. All right. He's gonna walk out of court, and those who is your words exact words. Well, I'm not so sure that that the LSU re reinstate him with some kind of report from they helped me have. And that's my that's my question to you today. Are you read thinking this just a little bit? Are you going to give him the benefit of the doubt? Or are you going to go ahead and convicting puzzling? Jay, I'm a talk show host. I'm not a judge nor my jury to opinions based on what I what I know. And when this case is finally over. I'll I'll formulate a final opinion right now. I don't think we have all the facts. I don't either. He wasn't talking because he had he had to make a statement. Yeah. Yeah. Payment to the FBI again answer the answer there and he couldn't afford to come out on on anything. But you watch it and see if there if there was no crime committed are, no well J any let me. If you if you would just give me one second. Okay. There's. The NC double A doesn't investigate crimes they investigate rules violation. I crime I mean, Rove's Asian, and I don't think LSU reinstated implore second. If he had if there was a room celebration. Well, I don't I don't have all the facts. I don't I don't really have any of the facts. So that's my opinion is is the same as it's always been. Thanks for the call though. I really appreciate you taking me through that chapter. And verse mill is up next in Georgia Mel go right ahead. All just wanted to comment on the way to twain down at LSU, but how's your day going? It's going great. Thank you already. Only thing that I wanted to say I just have a good feeling. He may remain division as hit two football team. Same as Bruce Pearl at all them, if you win, and you can bring something to the athlete a program on the school itself little properly compromised, some of it so call well, you know, you are correct about that. And and that is a lesson. We all probably maybe maybe I'm naive. But I know one thing if my bosses called me in in gave me an opportunity explain myself after it came out and national publication that I was on an FBI wiretap clearly violating into play rules in. I took six weeks to respond to the. There request. I would have been fired. Now, you can always go out and hire a lawyer and find a way through a loophole because that's what contracts are four. But, but I I don't think we know very much right now. And I my opinion. We'll wait hasn't really changed. I'm not going to be one of these guys that that jumps off the on and off a a bandwagon. My opinion of we'll wait is based on what I know about his career not based on what I know about this one wiretap. So if LSU fans want to hang me out to dry and tell me I'm wrong, and I should bell down to Joe Aleve. And we'll wait then that's fine. But right now, I'm I'm not I'm not going to do anything until I know more and right now, I don't know very much. Well, it a bowl of from my standpoint, maybe we don't like to go into direction, but call now has become so accepting to. Maybe what is considered Molly accepted now? And wait for sure now. Listen ma- Mel just. I mean, we've lived through it a couple of times with public officials and politicians, and and I I do think you're right about that. We we tend to hear what we want to hear choose our facts and shoes too. Dispatch facts that we don't like in the will Wade case, we just don't know very much. And by the way, I don't know one thing. More than anyone else. In fact, I probably know a lot less. I just know with people that I have great respect for have told me. And then that's all because I don't know. We'll Wade very much very well. And to me, if you're going to come clean and tell us the truth. Okay. Tell us tell us exact as ill what Mr. leva, and Mr. Wade sit down at a news conference. And explain exactly what the last six weeks were about. Well in Foley yet to look at it up this particular standpoint, if you owe a taunt of FBI watt calf in in me is not smell in right now. I think mail. It's pretty obvious. What wasn't smelling right? It was the way the will Wade recruits. And let's agree. And and probably says he had jeopardised himself and to remove him safe from that light b if b is they had found someone that they could use in their investigation. So he had to go alone in order to keep himself from being exposed possibly, right? I I don't know. I I mean, I'm I don't think people are welcome to call in and recite conversations from three weeks ago four weeks ago. I don't have to I don't have to recite anything that I've said here before because I know what I've said, and I know how I feel. Yeah. Well, that's all I have to say, I guess we will have to wait. And we will. And at some point, we will know more right now, we don't know very much that all thank you for the call though. I I really do appreciate it. And let's continue with more phone calls than Ronnie is up next in South Carolina. Hey, Rodney good afternoon to you hate holiday Hupa, taking McCaw. Thank you have a couple of questions and a game Alabama a game Saturday that made the statement that last year to doing pre read on defense before the bowl with that this year. So Keesing change it to post read in McCoy news. Do you think that's kind of a bath? Because way, Georgia in Cranston scheme the defense against them last year. It's a good point. It could be and I I don't know if you change your your tire approach based on that. But it's totally possible. Possible that what we saw Saturday is not what we'll see in five months right now. I just felt like to look to have comfort zone Saturday because well, he got a he's got a new. I mean Sarkissian is different than what he's used to write. I just a lot when he does our peo-. Lineup. Hey, just mo- accurate thrower it and try and sit in the pocket and throw the ball. I tell you what we are going to get a better idea. We we're gonna talk to Todd Blackledge about to about an hour and a half. And he was he was there. And he can explain it to us preciado very much more of your phone calls. If you wanna talk about we'll wait Glenn Gilboa. Join us in the next hour. We're coming right back. Pride passion and patron Torri of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. We'll come back. Let's check in with Chris in Georgia HOA, Chris good afternoon. How you doing? We are great Chris. Thank you. Hey, man. I just want to say first of all things about forty one into best foot shows on TV question. I don't know if he wants the army spring game, but not a witch quarter met you that the best. I saw a little bit of it. I thought they you know, I thought maybe Joey looked a little better than Bo. But maybe that was just I didn't see at all. So I don't want to be accused of that. But did you have an opinion? Yeah. I think Gatewood we have best. I just from past history of watching football. I just think that type of Pudu I agree with you. For me ask you, this is not even serious here. But what does it if there is a tie in for an Auburn football starter? Shouldn't should always go to bow. Hey, you you would think it would go to bow. You wouldn't think you would would Abobo? Hey, yes. What three freshmen in junior? So eventually one. They both look really good. Somebody told me the gate with reminded him of Cam Newton. Did you see any of that? Yeah. I don't think he is. Maybe as athletic is Cam, he's a big kid fix to forty. That's a great comparison. If you're looking for an Auburn quarterback. I think Auburn is they have to really good quarterbacks. Will they have will? They be good enough in time. I think is the question freshman do not perform very, well usually some do. But it takes a while. Thank you for the call John is in South Carolina. Hello, john. You're on the air. Hey, I was working to talk a little bit about South Carolina's upcoming football schedule. I mean seems to be really difficult go vote dollars. So we play games like Kentucky's always difficult game. Go to saying that we got Alabama at Georgia home against from is already. You talked about that and see like what to start with. I think this is the most difficult schedule in America. I mean who else I mean, auburn's isn't easy. But who else has to? Play. What will three of the top four teams in America the way? The polls will come out road game at a and m just to make it even worse. And then you're dealing with atmosphere. E Kentucky, which is owned you Florida. Tennessee. I I know there's optimism and there should be optimism. But I I'm struggling to find a good record with South Carolina. Yeah. I've always said Sakuma every year. We always win what we're supposed to. We always lose. What we're not supposed to lose. It's going to happen at some point. I think that win when we're supposed to win. You know, the Georgia could be Florida takes me really add take saying now that they lose when we're not supposed to lose could be even though deserves a really good team. It's getting Missouri or Tennessee. Good analysis. Thank you, very very much. Let's continue a lot of conversation about Tennessee. Is this a comeback year for Jeremy Pruitt, Ricky is up next. Hey, ricky. Good evening, brother problem. How are you today? We her great. Thank you. You've got a good show was always I want to say a quick shout out tire lower four trouble on Saturday morning here with Carrie, Stephen TMI, problems from woods. Oh, good. I I wanted to see if you saw any of the orange and white game and your opinion of it. I saw a few minutes it. I thought Joe Jeremy Pruitt the it was a really good analyst. I caught that part. I I was kind of in and out. I was watching golf. I was watching that. But I thought guarantee look really good. I find coach Pruitt to to pretty much be brutally honest to you. I and I like that. I mean, I'd rather hear it just like he sees it not from what he believes. But I still believe that he's going to get turned around. And again, I enjoy your show is like if he could put me on hold or whatever I do need to do to see by getting off air for me. Okay. I will put you on hold Ricky, and hopefully one of our people. Will get you very quickly. Thank you very much. Thank you look forward to talking to you soon case in Alabama is up next. Hey case, I call. Hey, there just one talk about a little bit on Saturday. Rob for that game. I went into the hound restaurant. North sure if you're familiar with that sure, but we saw on carry on Johnston. I was able to get a photo him. So that was a pretty good moment. A lot of the two quarterbacks Gatewood and Knicks. But when you look at our schedule, how many wins do you see on that? And was I tell the games that you see on that schedule. Well, I think if you looked at the toughest games Auburn near I'm gonna start with Georgia and Alabama even though they're both at home. I think they're going to be two of the best teams in the country after that at a, and I think will be route over brutally difficult as Florida and LSU, and I haven't even mentioned Oregon yet. How good you think Oregon will be with their number one player in in the SPN three hundred. I think they'll be really good. I mean, they've got a returning quarterback and Justin Herbert a good place to start. He's one of the best quarterback coming back in the country. Our apollo. Thanks more. Call and you have a great day. Thank you, very much a great to hear from you. Ralph is in South Carolina. You're up next. Hey ralph. Hey, what's it? Good. How are you? I'm good just couple of questions here. Dale s you coach, you know. I don't understand why the SEC continues. But with this the but anyway with that said, why don't we as a group of individuals? Make sure what is going on in this. Okay. Wh what specifically are you talking about here? Well, talking about you're talking about you. You can't answer the question. I'm in a gentleman called earlier. Right. Well, but you in relation to will what will that ultimately that's the university's decision. Whether to bring him back, and they made that decision. Now are they making it based on a legal finding or legal interpretation? I don't know until Joe alita opens his mouth, and we can hear him speak. It's going to be extremely difficult to know. What's going on down there right now? He's issued a statement. We don't really know. How feels we don't know why he reversed his decision other than some lawyer told him to and we don't know whether they are committed long-term to will. Wait was there anything in that statement that that said we are behind will Wade? He's got a five year contract. And we want him to be here for the next five years. Did you read that? No, sure. All I knows what I heard on the news. Like you. You're saying that the guy was. I don't know. I would say you said he was a criminal. Or no more said that I all I've tried to say is he comes off looking very bad. He like he was trying to break rules bay. And that's you know, I mean, listen, it may it may turn out that he doesn't testify may turn out that the F B I made up that wiretap and leaked it to some reporters. And we'll wait has just been. But you know, if that's the case, I suggest we'll wait hire the best liable attorney in America and just start taking names, and and and and and kicking people around because he doesn't come off like like someone who's been wrong. Does he? I don't believe that. I mean, it seems like a very nice person. So to me then. Yes. I met him a number of times and likable personable. Great. Let's go to South Carolina. Okay. Julie. You make comment about live. We have a great. I got a great coach in in muskat. Okay. But it saves time. I froze taking awhile to read the I will say that. Rallied to run we are heading to a break here. We'll finish this conversation in a moment. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried passion and patron Torri of college football lives here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcasts. Welcome. You back. We reach the second hour of the program. And so glad you are with us a bit busy show. If you missed the top will weigh the coach suspended indefinitely today casting a pall over LSU spectacular season. And raising some questions about what lies ahead for Wade. And this LSU basketball team chance to win the SEC tomorrow. And who knows what is a head for the NCWA tournament. We also have talked about the life and times of Dan Jenkins, the legendary sportswriter possibly the most influential sports writer there wrote about either Gulf or college football passed away last night in Fort Worth Tennessee's women's team eliminated day by Mississippi State. And now the Hollywood lick watch is on will she survive after another disappointing season will. Talk about a number of other issues, by the way, we'll talk to Glenn Gilboa bone. We'll little while writing. A scathing column today about will Wade many others have called for weights outright firing and LSU's. Self self. Assessment or self-imposed NC double a ban among them. Dan woken today in USA today. A little bit later in the program. We're going to talk to Morocco from CBS news. He has a highly regarded podcast out. It dropped today. And we've we here at the program of known about it for some time. He interviewed us last summer. But would also came out in the podcast today and dish into some conversations about this program was an interview with Harvey Updike Updike has not spoken to the media. And some time not the name one really wanted to talk to him. But listen up. This is Updike talking to CBS news. They home the scam New Jersey bear Bryant statue. That's when I want crazy. Yes. Fans taped Cam Newton's jersey onto bear Bryant statue a week before the iron bowl. This is true. Who would you consider that like like like sacrilege? Harvey also says that when bear Bryant died in one thousand nine hundred three Auburn fans rolled tumors corner in celebration. Now, there's no proof that something so ghoulish at that happened. But again, I believe that Harvey believes it at this point in the meal. I'm kind of understanding why all of this was so upsetting for Harvey. Auburn fans taped scam. Newton's forgive me, Cam Newton's jersey onto a statue of bear Bryant, which I'm guessing in Harvey's mind was tantamount to mocking his father. But then Harvey goes into a clinical step by step description of how he poisoned the trees in the middle of this family seafood restaurant in front of his granddaughter took me a month ever. Not. I stay up all night long. And they used to have cameras cre- figured out. One slowest time what day of the. The week and what hour of the night was flowing. Reynolds oak trees, strong to go in there that time and not good. And what time was weighing him on Sunday night, the chemical. He used was urbicide called spike. ABD f- makes it will water and put it in milk. I had to milk Gutteridge tree. And I walked around the the outside of the tree, you know, where the Bowie came out. So just pouring it around almost like gasoline instead of fire. When he me they came to my house. They brought I'm not lying. They, bro. Twenty-five? Police cars out. There are certain my house. We can't verify that. And they told me that. Use way way way too mud. We can verify that try five hundred times the lethal amount. Maybe it's fitting that the voice of reason at this table belongs to eleven year old Madison people that hate him. I mean, it'd probably already do, but he's not really acting like his age kind of acting young. He's back in school. My. I would never want. Someone hate me as much I would hate them baby. And just like that. I'm feeling a little better about Harvey delight trees in general. Yeah. Like trees in general. You know, I just don't like all several thanks were all, and I really don't like auburn's one of what are the others liver? I ain't gonna no liver to that a lot of protein. I don't care. What it I don't eat liver. And what are the other things, you know, like, I hate to say this because this upset a lot of people. But I hold my breath. I'm not crazy about cats. I didn't know what you were going to say just. I don't even know what to make of all that. That's morocco. Who will join us later in the program on yet. Another insane interview with Harvey Updike, pretty obvious to me and. I. I'm not sure I'm happier said about this fact that I was the only journalist to visit Harvey in jail that pre imprisonment and public humiliation has clearly not affected Harvey Updike psyche. He's still crazy as a loon eight five five two four to seven to eight five. If you have any reaction to that or any other subject love to hear from you again. We'll talk about we'll Wade with Glenn Guilbeault Seth Greenberg a little bit later on Morocco. In the final hour Homer. We ran out of time. Go ahead Homer. Hey, man. I just weren't calc about Dan Jenkins. Back when I was younger Ville before I became a sports writer, and I've never told you that Charlie used to. Try to give me day that our what your story on on. Dan jenkins. That's Laba games. Sports rier. Okay. Need right? North Dallas forty though he didn't he wrote Peter eight away Cam, I up sure. And man, I laugh tonight laugh wrote ball. He was so. True about what was having news sports in. You know course, we didn't know what you know, was the regular public. Bro. I'm gonna miss they jinking so bad. Hi to you know, can't swear on show 'cause John's dot Bangor on the book. But dammit, oh, man. I'm I'm gonna miss him. I'm gonna miss them. Really? Appreciate that home. You'd be well talk soon. Let's check in with Mike and South Carolina. Hey, mike. Hey, I'm a Clemson graduate and also university of South Carolina. Graduate wonder how have you on what we're talking about football and just a little bit. There's so many bowl games out there. And and most of the world is not interested in them, unless you're actually a graduate of teams playing so on the street a proposal by you that I think we generate interest in every single bowl game. Okay. All right. Let's just say that if you keep your six or seven major Bowes for New Year's day after the season. But you take me other thirty something bows? And you move them to the beginning of the season as the first game of the season. For example. Let's say Georgia Tech was playing Vanderbilt in a bowl. Nobody really cares. But if that game all of a sudden was the first game one week before the regular season the next year a lot of people would have an interest in that game because that season opener matters. Sure would. And I just think you could take twenty something thirty something bowl games and start the season the week before Labor Day play them one week center. And if you put all of those as the season opener, my goodness, it would change the whole outlook toward these bowl games. Will thank you for the call. My the season is going to start leasing or are we earlier this year with the moving of the Miami Florida game? Hey, thanks, Mike. Appreciate it Christmas in San Francisco. You're on the air, Chris go right ahead. Yeah. Hey, hey, Paul. Appreciate it. Thank you show. Big big fans out here west of your show, and it just wanted to share a little story. I I grew up playing competitive junior golf. I'm from nor Cal Phil Mickelson same. It was one year ahead of me. But we competed against each other since we were kids. Well, yeah, it it was a played in a lot of tournaments together. But I wanted to share a Dan Jenkins story where we're playing in the junior amateur back. We happen to be in New Haven, Connecticut at Yale's, golf course. And Dan was there, and he was there to cover Phil. And I got paired with Phil. And then you you play stroke play, and then you moved into match-play, but we got paired together ironic. Kley at this USGA event. And I gotta tell you Dan, walk with us for the eighteen holes of the first round. And even though he didn't know who I was. Of course, you knew Phil was but more the most one of the nicest most engaging people real have ever met. Yeah. Just down to earth wanted to know about where I was from where I went to high school family. You know, I went to Sarah high school, and then we started talking about parade or bonds and Lynch swan, and he knew all this. And it was it was a great talk. So it was kind of a kind of a sad day. But great memories of good, man. We'll thank you very very much for sharing that that's a fabulous fabulous story. A great to have you on Chris what an amazing story we are in the process of watching so many different things happening today on on the wheel wage story. We'll. Try to update you as as news breaks. We now have a statement from the SEC on top of the statement earlier from the F director and chancellor this just released by Greg Sankey on the suspension of will Wade quoting now. I support the action of LSU in its suspension of head men's basketball. Coach will Wade the information in recent news reports is very disturbing. If true considering the existing circumstances. They'll issue is taken appropriate action today while the investigation continues the SEC serves in an advisory role with our institutions in NCWA compliance issues and the conference office will continue to assist LSU as it moves forward in this matter, keyword, they're very disturbing. If true, it's pretty hard to imagine. He would have issued a statement if he did not believe there was at least some reason to believe the story was true, usually commissioners, don't just chime in without some justification the story continues to get more serious by the moment. It's it's to the degree now where? Even dick vitelle. Who? Is certainly no. Antagonised of college football coaches came out against we'll wait today. I I don't remember the last time. I tell criticize anyone of quite frankly, let alone a coach who is ranked in the top ten in America. The according to a I think it was a tweet by tell we make sure it gets this correctly. I'm just so amazed that I'm not being critical dick dick is just a a wild supporter of the game. And I think he did the did a game Baton Rouge recently. But and but anyway, the the point being here that there are just a number of people piling on. We'll wait, it's it's it's extraordinary when you consider the statement, we just read from Commissioner Sankey, the statements that have been dropped all day long. We still don't know anything about the player here and whether or not he will play in the game tomorrow of but we will await word on that. We'll talk to Glenn Guilbeault here in just a moment. But the story continues to get worse as I mentioned, and we will watch let me let me. I mean, I apologize. I I was about to read the statement. And I dropped the piece of paper or the phone that I was re I was about to read it to you on. But anyway, tell came down very hard. He he chided the university LSU. This is prior to the suspension, by the way, he chided the university in a tweet Friday morning calling this grounds to fire weighed in an embarrassment to LSU that's from dick vitelle that is about as close to an indictment if not sentence as I have ever heard anyway, we're up against a break. Eight five to four to seven to eight five more of your reaction to that. And other stories the death of Dan Jenkins and your phone calls when we come back to listening to my Paul finebaum show podcast. Greg is up next in Alabama. Hey, greg. They also take my call. Thank you. I heard the lead and about we'll wait in my question about Joe alita is one did he do to Jill Jones. Because normally when you're gonna hire someone of that magnitude, you're gonna know this stuff if it's outdoor already, and if he did know about it, why did you go ahead and hire them because it doesn't make sense. If you do know what's going on. It's a good point. You know, I'm not so you know, in terms of due diligence. I'm not sure you you could have known what was to come. What I'm interested to Greg? I'm curious what you think is from the moment that LSU became aware of these allegations back in October. What did they do? And how aggressive were they and they can't just say. Now, we were misled by will wait because I I have seen no evidence that anyone did any due diligence. Once that allegation came out the only thing I've heard of. People in the media and others spinning for will. Wade. You're you're right. I don't think what I would have. I think they should have done. It's not Tober to set them. And listen investigate this thing and find out what's going on and do some digging then, but they chose not to and even as far as a couple of days ago when you interviewed, you know, Matt Moscow and some other guys concerning this down there. They were just nonplussed about it. Yeah. I'll answer. The I just because. And you you just can't act like this is a surprise. When the story now is what six months old, exactly. I think I think there's probably going to be more than what we know. And they still I let me ask you this question. You're you're smart guy. What do you think? The odds are of we'll wait ever coaching LSU again. Zero that high. Maybe minus five. Yeah. Yeah. You're I think you're in the right time zone. Yeah. He he's he's done. And there's just no the blight and another, you know, I mean, the the the question you have to ask, you know, think Sankey statement, you know, very disturbing if true, I'm not really sure I understand why what he said what he meant by that. Why would the Commissioner the SEC say very disturbing? If true, why would you cast doubt on whether it's true or not if you're already issuing a statement? Yeah. Understand that either. And it might have been prepared by Greg. He may have had you know, someone in the sports information. We just put it out. Well, yeah, I yeah. Maybe but hard hard for me to believe the great Sankey issue statement life that I mean because the SEC I mean, yeah. I mean, you had to know when this story broke yesterday, the SEC was in the crosshairs because they have some I mean, they can act like they're in an advisory role. But they're in a pretty pretty major position here to advise and consent. And it was hard is. It was hard. It was hard. It will Wade coach tomorrow that that either meant one or two things that everybody was all in or this was bogus. And there was no way. This was bogus. Well, I think it's going to have some long term impact in the SEC. At least in the fact that going forward probably in the future that you're not gonna have anybody get hired. That's got any show 'cause or anything left on their plate from previous wrongdoing. Oh, you're right. And and it basically to wonder what's gonna happen with Bruce Pearl possess not done yet. Yeah. It's a good point. I mean, brief Pearl has that story just just vaporized, but it's hard to imagine. It's completely those. I don't know if any of this is done yet. Greg call Joe, Greg. Thank you, Greg. Greg calling from Athens, Alabama. Let's move on. And talk to Trey Trey go right ahead. Is there? I wanna make a mention of the game with between Auburn and Alabama was women basketball. What was the situation in that game? I I I really don't know. I was first of all I I was I was I was in Alabama last night making speech. So I didn't see the game. Okay. I wanted to say that since I'm a first time caller. I enjoy your show which was the basketball team with would do better. And I hope that they maybe maybe give better coats with what are you thinking that Utah men's basketball? Yes, sir. It's hard to believe that there's going to be a change made. But I think the next to I think I think what happened Saturday it will help shape shape the shape shape. What happens next if they lose that game? Get knocked out of the NCAA tournament. It's gonna just ratchet up the heat. Hey, thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Fillers in California, Phil go right ahead. Fill fill your next. Go right ahead. Good. How are you? Go right ahead. You're on the air. Yeah. I've got a rebuttal to Mike get your host yesterday. What happened? Well, you know, he's a on our trash and Tennessee all the time, and you're from Tennessee, and I just want to confirm on the air that you're not going to go anywhere in the United States and make Nassir fans or more enthusiastic fans than they are at university of Tennessee. Well, listen to you. I mean, I I'm not saying this is an excuse. I was in. I was flying yesterday. I was in transit. I did not hear any of the show and. It's a short putt, sir. And I don't want to interrupt you. But you know, I know I got limited time here. But you know, he's always harping about the Tennessee never gonna win another national championship. And that kinda rose me the wrong way. Because he's a Kentucky Homer. But he's yelling the platform and national platform to spew that stuff out, you know, and this and this show reaches all kinds of different listeners young people oil, and and you know, it's just so one sided that when you gotta host just bashing Tennessee. They're never gonna win. And he doesn't know that. I mean, any makes these lane comparisons, you know, about well, you know, there in the bottom half. Well, yeah, we've had some rough years. However, that's like saying southern Kells never gonna win another national championship. UCLA's never gonna win the national championship. Nobody knows these things. I mean. Nobody knew that Clemson was going to turn out like they did five or six years ago. And then you know, I mean coach comes in and get some good stuff and things start developing. And now, you you explained to me how I'm wrong in standing up to that point. I understand where you're coming from. I truly do. Hey, phil. Thank you. I hate to run. But we were up against the end of the hour. We'll talk a little bit more about the LSU situation, which grows worse by the hour. I listen I understand the frustration. Bill issue fans. You've just had your best basketball season in a generation your final four team potentially. You're about to win the SEC in all of a sudden a a nuclear bomb goes off. But we are just simply reporting the news here, we don't make it up. We'll come back with more phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five love to hear from you. Glenn Guilbeault on the future of LSU basketball under will Wade after this. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in a most nesting dole. Here's the Geico not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer pity, the INA most nesting Dollond her lot in life. Welcome back. One bombshell after another has been going off. Lately, if you haven't heard and just getting off work. The news not good at about Rusia. We'll Wade was suspended today indefinitely. Your guess is as good as ours. What it means? But we'll try to get some perspective on that. In addition to statement from the university, we just heard from Greg Sankey, Glenn Guilbeault covers that beat and always great to have him on Glen. Thanks so much. So your reaction to the news of the last twenty six hours good afternoon. Mostly nice that that they went ahead and suspended. We'll wait today. I knew that possible strategy because the NCAA. Looks favorably on school start self imposing itself disciplining themselves going into impending NCA investigation. So I knew that was a strategy. But I I didn't think they they do it. I thought you know, they would take the attitude. The Bank would spend the money before get caught. And they still have the player in question on the TV. Devante smart. You know, I thought they made spent him to they still could. But you know, it's probably the right thing to do by. Joel Eva and president Alexander LSU. But I did not expect it now his point here. Let me let me let me let me go to the player. I because do what's your best? Guess I mean really play tomorrow. Well. I would you know what? My best guess, I would say, yeah. He will. He will play since they didn't announce as spent know now, why would why would why would way be suspended in the player nod if they're trying to protect themselves with the NCWA. Well, they got the big center. You know, smart is just is just one player way in the ESPN store yesterday. You said he had similar deals with other players on on FBI tape. And and you know, he had a preliminary investigation when I got the unless you uprooting DC you he was talking on on another player also Koper last October. So you know, he's got multiple issues whereas aren't just as one. So they got they got the big fish any they'll spend the smaller. We later. From those who have been following Glenn. Would you mind going back a little bit? When this story, I think I broken out Tober, it it got some attention. And then Wade talked about it SEC media days. And right. Most people moved on was can do you have any idea what the university did at that point in time. Well, a leave a made a statement in October that they were court cooperating with with the NCAA, and we would would be monitoring that. And and his statement today kind of reflected that he said, you know, statement today was clear that they didn't start looking at this yesterday. They've been monitoring this. And and looking at this. According to the statement, I think what happened was the previous stories about Wade's at the I tapes with the previous player also those were taken seriously because of also committed to Florida state which different about what happened yesterday was it involved. Ueli talking about a player who's on his team now, and he mentioned by name in a conversation. He mentioned offers, and you mentioned smart one two piece of the pie. You mentioned smarts family being involved in this offer. You know, this specific comments about. A player on his team. Now is what made this happen today? Okay. So here we are way doesn't coach the team goes to national next week clearly will be a high seed in the NCW tournament. And I realize everything now is speculation. But take us through the next week or two. Do you think? Wades coming back. Do you think there's teams going to the tournament? Do do you have any idea? Wow. That waiting is going to be back this season. And I doubt he'll ever be back. His she said coach Tony Benford who who was a terrible head coach at North Texas. Never had a women Susan replace Johnny Jones. They've all people who weighed replaced at LSU Benford with weights. I hire he became LSU's coach he is now the interim head coach and he's got a great team. And there were the SEC tomorrow the Vanderbilt which has a record of a team that's been on probation. I mean, it looks like, and and then I think they'll do well in the SEC german-indian determine now, I think with Wade they had a legitimate chance. Get into the final four. I I don't think they have a chance to get them. Final four now. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious. Why so important he's the head coach. But. Back to what you said about him coming back. Is that based on what we've seen based on the reaction today based on what? I think it's based on his comments in the Yahoo sports story yesterday, and the SPN story, you don't on the FBI pins like it's based on that. And it's based on what would may come out of the April in the trial. The second federal corruption trial of college basketball. It starts on April twenty seconds, which he's been he's in the process of being suspended to testify in. I think more will come out that there, and I mean, I'm just guessing but subpoenas pretty serious. And and I think if more even older comes out, and there's you know, there's no telling how much the FBI has this is not the NCAA or some newspaper. This is the FBI probably have a paper trail who knows moral probably come out there. Now, I just I just can't see way coming back, and then t investigation will piggyback on that probably. So and I think that's why this ended today to to look better in the. Is of appending NC investigation. If that's possible, Glenn what's been the reaction. We know the reaction from the university. What what's the average fan saying down there? Bo the average fan yesterday was just totally dismissing it, you know, most of the fans I heard from social media and so forth. But totally dismissing it saying, it was fake news and so forth. You know, that's people do now. And I think they are really shocked that that this has happened. And it's it's so very to them. And you know, I think a lot of people never quite got the fact that this is the FBI and subpoenas in will waiting on tape. And it doesn't matter that he's on tape because in this may have been published because the attorney for Christian Dawkins wants to get all the coaches 'cause Kristin Dawkins the agent runner was was found guilty in October of wiretapping fraud. You know, his attorney wants to get all the coaches, but none of that matters. What matters is on tape. And we'll wait is on tape. And and that's why this was so serious. Even a lot of people didn't wanna think it was serious yesterday. Glenn? How does this? Make Joe Aleve. Look or does it really matter considering what happened today, but only it did hire him got a lot of credit for hiring him. I believe did I read correctly leave is is in the middle of his own contract conversations. Well, right now, he's just on under contract for a little more than a year through July of two thousand twenty and. You know? He may. Well, a lotta people expect him to be done in July twenty even before this. But you know, I think you'll leave did the right thing today. I do the Glenn. How how how could he not have how I mean? How could you let this man coach tomorrow's my question. Right. Well, because he's already done Jolie was already done in a year. No, I see what you're saying. So so he didn't have the self preservation motivation to to keep, but you know, we'll wait had a bit of a reputation when when LSU hired him. So, you know, leave them they will be criticized for not looking at him more closely. Playing smart. I want to go back to that. As we wrap up. It just seems to me that if the university was some knowledge, let's play they put themselves in even more harms way. But your your best guesses that they're they're in on smart at least for now. Yeah. Mean they didn't announce his spending today along with Wade. So that that you could do that. He's he's gonna play. But it would be smart Avila shoes not not to let him play. And and and spent him as well. But you know, if the NCAA penalize LSU produce they would forfeit the game. He's he's already been in conceivably. So he's already been in just about every game. So you know, again, you robbed the Bank my whole spend the money you may be. We are talking Louisiana here. I keep forgetting. That's right. That's right. But you know, we'll see tomorrow that'll be interesting to watch. The actually does player address out. You know that that's four they they keep suspensions of players so forth. Secret. Movin and not to make you repeat the obvious. You've already said, but it's your best gas will Wade has coached his last game at at LSU. Yes, I would say so. Glenn many. Thanks, great to have you on. Okay. Thank you. I mean, this isn't some fake news national writer, this guy, very close to the program saying in his opinion. We'll wait is done at LSU. May cost some SEC coach of the year at the rate who's going. We are coming back with more eight five five two four to seven to eight five love to hear from you Rockin in the final hour on his interview with Hervey Updike. We'll wait suspended indefinitely unlikely to come back. According to Glen, they're more of your phone calls after this too and listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Go back lied. You're here. What a busy day it has been. Riders in Texas as we continue on a Friday afternoon rider. Go right ahead. You're on the air. Yeah. I'm just wondering what do you think ball's going to happen with like Shawn Miller out in Arizona after we'll wait. News broke. I I've been surprised that he has hung on as long as he has. I think as as the cliche goes, the or I think I think the cliche goes the Roosters of come back to crow. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you should have been gone a long time ago. Yeah. I mean, you know, I think I think you'll be made a good point meet some universities are all in. And then, you know, some wait it out. I I I'm of the opinion LSU just drag this out as long as they could they faced the smoking gun today. And they let the they they suspended them. But if they had let him coach tomorrow, they were they were putting themselves in tremendous jeopardy. Oh, absolutely. There's there's no way you could continue down the there's the season especially with as successful as they've been all year. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's it's it's too bad. I mean, and now you're hearing from people saying, well, he's he wait head of shady reputation. I mean, I haven't heard that lately of you know, I'll have heard from. I'll have heard from LA shoes. What a great in by the way, I interviewed him two weeks ago. I saw a pretty impressive guy. I mean, look what he's done. But sometimes you do get the. Attention of of the of the authorities. When when overnight you become a success? That's that's that will always get their attention down. This case the F B I wiretaps are just deadly. Yeah. What do you? What do you think? Now that you say big time recruits going to schools, it's going to red flag a lot and that you know, you by the way, that's the real problem for LA shoe, if you're a top-flight recruit. You're looking down there going do. I want to be there. Right. You don't you? Don't know the coach is going to be. I mean, I mean, it's really too bad. This program was just on fire for the first time in fifteen twenty years. And now it is literally burning. Hey, thanks for the call. Appreciate it. More on the LSU situation in the next hour Morocco on his injury with Harvey Updike. I don't know how he got through it and your phone calls.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Pride passion. And pageantry of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show our one pint cast. Hey, we say Hello to you on a Thursday afternoon. We have made it to April fourth and we're knocking on the door or the final four. And I know you're all excited by that. And we are to we'll spend a lot of time about bouncing back and forth between studio and Minneapolis. But let's start with some headlines in get you updated in the headline L dot com. Just malzahn. Please turn your sound down. Is Auburn becoming a basketball school? Or is this just a diversion from football some diversion going to the final four. Think getting that a frontal four means you get to bring your fans, they get chance to experience it. Final four lets me know that all the work that I've done so far is on pilot paying off in his putting everybody on notice history can able to be the first team ever to compete in the funnel four as a team that we realized that we're not done yet. We feel like we can we can win two games. It'd be national champions. We won't be favored in any of the games. But it wouldn't be a complete shocker if we want all. Well, meanwhile out in Texas. Haggi scouting on buzz to lip program. Light years ahead that is buzz Williams. He's the new coach you'll be formally introduced later today in Aggie land. New off Ahah Bill would you like to come to work for us? They would like to talk to Chris beard who wouldn't. He's one of the hottest coaches in the country. Would he dare leave Lubbock after a final four run? Maybe a national championship to go and succeed. Mike anderson. Stay tune one person who won't be is Kelvin Sampson. He is staying put he was high on the list of hundred year check they worked together at Houston. But he's not going. He's reportedly about to resign where he is. So that's where we are on this Thursday afternoon. We have a big show we have a even a bigger show that we can tell you about. John Hayes is here today. Bob Hope who has not quite. Reached the point of having his picture. We looked for John's high school picture for Bob high school always name. His name is Bob. I thought his name was John John. Holt will join us at three thirty Aaron Torres from Fox Sports we have his picture because he works for FOX. Buzz williams. Yeah. We know what he'll like well, listen in about six o'clock eastern and dick Vitale. You'll join us as well. That's what it's called. A really big show. Your phone calls. I, and if you don't know the number by now, I will give it to you for the final time you have to remember is it or you can never call the show your eight five five to four two seven two eight five eight five five to four to seven to eight five that is the number and we began in with Jack in California. Hey, jack. How you doing? We're doing great, Jack. Thanks for the call. I got a couple days ago. I heard you make a little comment about North Carolina and ROY Williams and jumping about next year early exit. This year looked like the year I hadn't picked to all the way at three seniors at a great point guard, and what did they happen? And what's going to make all all the seniors graduated? They're all gonna play it in the frozen. I think appoint guard just he's gone Roy's got nothing nothing left. Going to be become it's time for ROY to say, you know, what I've had a good career beat the rap. I didn't get nailed in the NC double investigation. Maybe I should retire. I think that is my suggestion. He he's his last appearances have been dismal last year getting bounced out in in his home state against texting them and this year just getting run over. I'm other son. He's he's he's got a great resume and they were top four team all year long. But sometimes you can begin to see the windmills tilting. And I think they are toward him mareo Memphis could ever name. What is it? What is it? We're doing great. Thank you for asking. Got a question for oh, you're in. But do I mean, I do. Cool and pay he posts of the women's about. I will get your anti on his remarkable. I have no idea what he said. Layers be with coaches being scattered players. Oh, okay. I I do apologize. I saw that headline today. You know, I think gino's, correct. I think I think a lot of lot of coaches are intimidated about players these days, and you don't see the discipline. You don't see what I saw in you saw many years ago. And I think there's something to to think there's something to that statement. Well has ever been a player that answer the rule a coke under the book has ever had? I'm sure it ha-. I mean, listen happens all the time in the NBA pretty much. Anyone who coaches a team that LeBron James is is a player on has been thrown under the bus? But I it, you know, in in college ball, it's not as easy to do because the coach has more authority. But I think coaches are losing thirty. I I've seen I've seen successful coaches be intimidated by players. I think Kevin someone's undoing it at Texas AM was Johnny Manziel. I think JIMBO Fisher let his personal feelings toward Jameis Winston cloud. His judgment at FA shoe. I think it does happen. And I think it happens more than you think. Great to have you on. Thank you, very very much. Tony is in Florida. And you're next up. Hey, tony. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you all in for a month. I've been listening months years, actually, it's first time caller. So you're doing a great job. And by the way, I'm another vol for life. So I'm living in hostile Florida country. You're gonna magin well that makes two of us. I'm living in Florida. But I'm VFL. Yeah. Yeah. God bless you couple of comments. And by the way, I joined that discussion would right Thompson yesterday. Oh, thank you, all and I'm going to get the book to cause the dreams I'm gonna order that on Amazon straight away. Couple of comments about the what happened in the tournament to this date, those elite eight games were absolutely fabulous. As anybody's a basketball fan would would would would commit to and mitt to one of the comments. I think shocking is that anybody who thought I really was a I'm a fan on the, you know, raw grad and that customer Metallica Tennessee fan. I I didn't think Barnes was going to get them through. I think Bruce Pearl could've taken that same vol team to the final four. But I don't think Barnes is good enough Mench coach to do. What does? And you may or may not agree with me. But I know with you, and I sadly, I do and and I'm a fan of of rig barns. But but I think unfortunately. The Tennessee basketball team didn't get where they should have got. I think that was a final four team and into I think once again, the March epidemic has struck rich re re Barnes and listen. It's not. It's a it's a common theme. And at some point. You know, some coaches are good at at various things he is a terrible tournament. Coach. It may sound like an overstatement I based on where I expected him to be. I mean, he's better than most coaches. But the inability of him to navigate the month of March is really an issue. I if you if you want your your team to to get very far in Tennessee should have gotten farther last year, and they should have gotten farther this year. I totally agree. I think the interesting observation I would make about them is that like Duke. Teams can scheme for you. They put together game plan for you. And that's basically no guard the paint, and and and try to put somebody slow down bone and guard the paints a Williams, and for some reason, I don't know if he was absent without leave. I love I love Admiral. I really do. I like the name great. He's a great guy on that. The all time the all-time basketball name, it is that in Baskervilles. Will you know, Memphis player? What wasn't he Memphis Baskerville? Yeah. Best real homes is like right out of Sherlock, Holmes. His mother probably only read one book. Now that that we should do that one day when there's literally nothing going on which isn't today, but I would say Baskerville and Admiral or two of the great names of all time. They are in Admiral. I what I I think they would have won the game into the Neil AP shown up for half of the game. They wanna game. Yeah. He he apparently he was disappearing late. Yeah. Really? I think he maybe was maybe hurt. And who knows what the didn't didn't indicate that. But maybe he's already play out better in the second half. Certainly one more comment about I'm a big fan of started going on that I got off the tangent a bit, I digress. But I would tell you that I predicted Duke would not be in the final four even though Zion is an unbelievably incredible remarkable talent. He's just the most amazing thing I've ever seen. He's from another planet. I mean, he's just forty five minutes. Vertical? Leap forgot his is. Is he could play in the NFL? L, and he'd be we'd be all world. Probably it probably doesn't like to get hit. But that'd be the other thing. But just thinking guys biggest gripe with faster more agile think about that. What that would look like at tied in. But I think anybody who game plan for them. You saw the formula just Deepak the paint. And you keep the ball out of his hands as best you can. And you you Bank on Glenn RJ Barrett and came ready. She was absent without leave beat you because they can't they were terrible outside shooting team. And they have been all year and this deter everybody who knows college basketball knows this you do I know 'cause I've heard you talk about everybody knows college basketball knows that guard blade wins the tournament time. That's what that's what wins in the final four. The teams that have the best guards are likely going to win. That's why over it has a really as a punchers chance. They really have a good chance because they probably have the two best guards in the tournament. They certainly do is to say, hey, we're up against. Right. Thank you. Forget again really enjoyed the call. Well, I guess to come. It will head to Minneapolis later on check in there. We're coming right back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Bob. Hope he's joining us covers the Arkansas scene for as I mentioned nearly forty years, Bob. I know you're working on a bunch of stuff. We appreciate your time before we get to what's next. What was Kelvin Sampson seriously in play as we said Hello to you. Well, I can't say I'm equivocal believe because you know, hunter your check there and say as being pretty tight lipped about it. But I gotta believe he wasn't strong consideration. Just because he's a really good coach he has a prior relationship with with honnor, you know, their friends, and he wasn't on the hiring process at UH. And he he would have been a really good coach here, but he's staying in Houston. So where is the search as of Thursday afternoon? Well. Would you? It was like the old days with coach Frank rose. A little more forthcoming with big. But what I was told by somebody pretty close to the search was that, you know, crispier from Texas Tech is was their top choice. And he's obviously still busy coaching his team getting ready for the final four. And I think it's a day where they want to hear him. You know, they want to talk to have a dialogue with him. And at least, you know, hear him tell him. No, you know, they don't wanna find out later. Well, gosh, maybe you wouldn't consider it for whatever reason. So I think they're still, you know, wanted to talk to him about it. And my guess is he's indicated he's at least listen awake any co twin listened. And then after that, I'm sure they have another list of coaches that that they would go to if if Chris beard, you know, did leave Texas tag, which can be very hard to get into leave their. Yeah. Let's talk about beer for second. I mean there he's been in the state of. I remember correctly wasn't. He a Little Rock. Yeah. He was head coach one year at at Arkansas. Little Rock at a phenomenal year. Thirty and five went the and say turn, it'd be Purdue. And I go no, we're time lost. I was state tiffy, you know, V job for a week or something Texas Tech, and he said great success there, especially the last two years in a lead. They never been there. And now final four obviously for the first time. So he's had incredible success. And he was a really under the radar guy. He came to Arkansas Little Rock from from Angelo state down, Texas. So listen, if if if tech wasn't in the final four, maybe it would be more realistic, but you may well have to wait 'til Monday or Tuesday. And then even later, I don't know we both have covered sports along time. I'm trying to think of a final four coach who has left afterwards. I'm sure it's happened. But as you pointed out, it is difficult if if not beard where and who well, I think there's still some people interested in this job. It's not the job. It was twenty twenty five years ago. But I think it's a good job because of the fan base the league you're in facilities. But you know, and I couldn't tell you for sure this would be the guy or rank em but antics, the logical choices would be somebody like Eric Muslim his Nevada. You feel like he would come to Arkansas. Obviously Steve Alford got fired two season at UCLA still very -ccomplish. Coach has almost six hundred wins. Multiple bids. He's the guy he's the guy that might be able to get you know, you you hear there's been a lot of smoke about Gregg Marshall today at at Wichita state, and we turned on Alabama and big money. I guess when they hired every Johnson. You know, you see your some people like that. But it could be somebody, you know, like Allegheny had bread coming here as a football coach for years ago. So I'm sure they're they're a lot of coaches have your checks talk to. But it's got to be somebody. That's a good fit. Somebody. That's good for Bill. Come here. I'm interested. Relation to beard. I know we're going back. But I mean, it's hard to it's hard to imagine him leaving now. But what is your view having seen the pinnacle of Arkansas basketball seeing it now, I mean, what type of job is this? Well, I I think it's still a good job. I mean, but like I say it's not coming off a final four appearance. You know, then last it's hard to believe but going back to two thousand two which is known riches west season where they can go tournament in the last twenty years. They've had six bids which is really hard to believe if they about it or or whatever it is since two thousand one whatever that has up to six inch bids told never gotten past the second round, Mike Anderson one two first round games on Pelfrey when I run game. And that's it, you know. And this was a program in the nineties was going to you know, three final fours one at all a loss in the championship game went to allow Sweet Sixteen. So it's it's definitely taking a fall from there. But you know, that they can offer a lot of money because you know, the FCC money they've got a great arena. Even though it's twenty five years old. I think it's still great arena. They've got a practice. They just opened a few years ago. What Mike Anderson? You know, wanted that then consider that a really hungry fan base. I think it's the second best fan base in the SEC. Dan, Kentucky, you could argue Tennessee's. But it's right up there. And you know, and they've got a lot of wealthy boosters. And they do have some tradition here with any sudden rich and having success. Mike action didn't do a bad job. He just didn't win enough. I guess you'd say to keep the job. So I think there's a lot of pluses here, but there's some obstacles to overcome. You don't have a big match recruiting base pretty good high school state, but it's not a big state, then produce a ton of pleasure. You have to go out of state to get enough players. And and you're talking about coming into the league when it may be deeper better and deeper than it's ever been. May ask you this. And I hear you loud and clear, and I have a similar view. But if Arkansas is all is all these things that you you say, they are in most of us think they are then. Why has the program been so average for the last twenty years? Well, I don't think they they hired to write coaches. I mean, there's a lot of talk when when knowing rich and was fired that they might be able to get Bill self, and, you know, different people tell you different things, I would have been a great hire. They could've made it, and they know of them was here for oh. That's right. I'm not even sure he was here for twenty four hours. But he was the guy they hired, you know, to replace saying he, and and he's I was going on had he'll went back to Creighton for a couple of years, and he's had a really good run at Oregon. I think if he would've stayed or he would have been very he took the job gotta he was he introduced officially. Oh, yeah. He had a press conference. And you know, and it was kind of weird you kind of wonder what was going on. 'cause they call the hog which I was they always do at Arkansas when they do anything, especially when they hire coach any kind of got this weird look on his face, and he stepped up to the podium. I was I was coming spring football. But I've seen video of it. And he says something like I dunno my friends in Omaha would think about that. And you're thinking, well, who cares? What your personal thing to be the coast, and is apparently he hadn't talked to his daughter about it, and she was a teenager. She was crying because you know, what kid wants to move away from all her friends. You know, I mean, she may never lived anywhere but almo- hawk. I think she was thirteen or fourteen or sense. I e this is. Is it kind of a weird thing? I think he had buyer's remorse pretty quickly. And by that night. I think he was calling his president or chancellor, whatever they have a Creighton and say, hey, can I get my job back? So, but, but I gotta believe he would have done a very good job here, and you going back to stay. And he's stand went to two straight and say tournaments, basically put together the team of John Pelfrey type in you wonder welfare been more patient with he foot. What happened? I don't know. Stan what's floor and had some success? I think he's coaching the G league now. But they I think you gotta have the right guy at Arkansas. Now, you know, Kentucky or North Carolina. That's what I did. Why did they pull the trigger on Mike Anderson who was fairly well liked by most people, I think Mike was very well likely Mike a lot of good things here. And like I say he didn't. I mean his record. I think it was one six nine one zero two. I think the big thing is back to is. This was eight season they'd been three and term. And I and for certain people that wasn't good enough. Maybe they thought the program was is better than it is and before the season finished tenth in the SEC tight for night. You were saying oh gaffer. You know, we've seen some other place, you know, Ben Simmons. He was at UCLA. He was the number one pick. But they they didn't go the NCAA tournament Marquel from Russia was in and pick a couple of years ago and his team won thirteen games, though, staffed up fires. So so and that's how Michael porter jR. You've got the Missouri. Hello, he only played a couple of games there. But yeah, I don't know. I think some people had elevated expectations. Maybe they felt like, you know, the best Mike was. Era going to do is make the tournament and win a game or something. But you know, he took you a beat Sweet Sixteen pick Missouri daily able you just never could duplicate that high level of success at Arkansas, unfortunately. But yeah, I mean, I thought Mike action. It did a good job here. And he did a lot of you know, he cleaned up. The academic guys very rarely got in trouble. You never had a losing season. But you never got to Sweet Sixteen either. So I guess, you know, I think for a lot of people might get a really good job may wish would've entertainment other people feel like, hey, he had eight seasons. He didn't take it to a high enough level time to give somebody else chase. Bob whole covers the scene out there for the Arkansas democrat gazette Bob best best wishes. I know it's a it's a pretty anxious time as a reporter trying to see which way the wind is blowing and where the planes are flying. But we will talk to you soon. I hope. Okay, thanks for having me on negative OB. Bob standing guard. Watchmen in Arkansas, we'll take a break. More of your calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. Thursday of the final four. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back in guide your here, and Harry is up next. Hey, Paul good afternoon. Good afternoon to you, Paul if I can get a yes or no aunt if it's possible, it might give me a second SAS my second question. So I'll try can can the NCAA penalize LSU, regardless of of what the outcome is FBI. Take thing is because of the actions of of coach, wait. Yes. Okay. Could that have anything to do with LSU probably having a tough time trying to poke you a competent coach right now. I mean, they could have I would think if it's not legally can approach people agents and beginning negative vibes. Is that possible? Sure. Yeah. Listen to me all y'all yet to these things are very simple there. Couple of executive search firms out there that you could call and get a list of candidates and have them already working on the due diligence and besides you can also eighties have relationships with with agents. And that's that's part of what they do. They meet with agents all the time. And hey wh-. What about this guy? What about that guy? I would think Joe Aleve already has a list. Now the question is can you convince someone to take that job? If you believe if they believe I should say that LSU is going to get hit by the NC, double A, right? Right. So so so basically Paul is it possible there waiting to finalize the way decisions based on the fact that they just simply think once they do that. And they don't get anybody. They really want. Then the fans really gig. It get a little upset. Do you think? That's I think they very well, maybe waiting for someone it's possible that they they have someone targeted that just takes awhile. I I I don't wanna give Joe alita too much credit because frankly, doesn't really deserve it. Okay. Well, I appreciate fall in and look human jaw the final four and we'll see next week. Thank you skipping, right. Past friday. That's okay. I don't mind read is up next in North Carolina. Hillary. Hello. Paula abdul. An in reference to you. Mentioned in about you tie ROY way of should retire. Why do you think you have the right to tell somebody when they ought to retire read? I don't have the right to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do. And I'm not doing that here. I offered an opinion. Which is what I'm supposed to do as a talk show host. Okay. Well, maybe it should offer opinion about coach caver retiring because he had pro playoffs and he couldn't he couldn't even get into final four. Well, he made the day. He made the made the elite eight last year while ROY was getting blown out on North Carolina soil. Well, let me ask you a question. What are you North Carolina fans so sensitive about about ROY? I mean, it's listen he's a good coach, but he should have retired after he won the national championship which is university bought for him to the tune of about twenty three million dollars in legal fees. And since then it's it hasn't been all that great in the NCAA tournament last year was bitter disappointment this year was a bitter disappointment. And if you want. Roy Williams and quit trying to compare yourself to do. Well, why shouldn't we do last year? And we had him on the road. We should be mean in Chapel Hill. Did you re read by one point? About one point. I don't listen. I don't care about second-place finishes. Okay. I don't think they give a trophy for that. And not and not the past is you've always come by the way, ROY re has your has your women's program doing Chapel Hill. I don't know what's going on with today's. I gotta learn how to talk like a Carolinian. Oh, maybe you should since you in Charlotte's. I've no doubt. I gotta get. How do wing at the end of the call? Thank you. All right. But. A day. That's it's gotta look tell me this. You're from North Carolina Archer is a little bit of that Virginia in there, isn't there? Yeah. I mean, I I kind of caught that. Like, he's got some. I think he was conceived in Richmond. Let's go to Anthony next. How are you? Anthony. It's gonna right. They'll just call them into say, the officers should be okay, Minneapolis. I've been through time about juvenile their time truckdriver. But I think this time of the Orissa be okay with the weather. It's probably not that cool about what really it was forty five today. It's going to be fifties and sixties over the weekend. I mean, this is not like going to the North Pole. It is it is early April in the the Great Lakes are starting to fall out. Yeah. Yeah. It looks a lot better than looking over the winter. I was up there when he was they had hard. Tell me. What's what's Minneapolis? Like, I I mean, I've never been. Well, that's what I was also going to say I don't have to hide take until you got spots. Anything? I'll probably try to get that the next time. They have like a Bob Alibaba, Evans diner, or you can go get a good breakfast. Well, the the places outside their the the hometown. I don't have any good. Oh, you know eggs over light scrambled bacon on the side and hot biscuits. Now. See what I was there. It was it was pretty cold and awesome Bill. So I didn't really get out of my truck. That's how to stay on the Anthony any places cold compared to mobile definitely does. What I well. I just let you walk outside mobile on on January second and the humidity is is is breaking for honors. Awesome there yesterday. When I was at tell you Paul again, thanks for taking my talk. Let's go right now where I want to apologize to guy from North Carolina. I mean, he just. Just called up with a legitimate question. I shouldn't be making some fun of white people talk. But they but Carolinians do have that kind of interesting is it is it any one part of North Carolina. Or is it just upper Piedmont? I gotta gotta learn all these. The dialects of the tar heel state. Jeff is in North Carolina as well. Yes, falls can save the Nashville. Okay. Well, now, you're you're okay. Astro? I don't consider to be part of that other. What I'd be. To me, ashville is east Tennessee. Pretty much. Yeah. We are still protective ever old role in. I don't know if it's the fact that we know kind of in between. Why start or in? And sorry stuggling. Hang listen. Jeff. I mean, I think ROY Williams is is an iconic coach. I'm not in the guy asked me do. I do. I have a right. Don't have a right to tell ROY. What to do? I'm just suggesting before he gets embarrassed again by somebody else that I mean, there's no shame in retire. And he's had he's had a brilliant career. They want relational champion shakes. I mean, I'm sure the ACC network is hired. We'll take a break. Eight five five to four to seven to eight five. We are often running. We're running the four corners today in honor of Dean Smith to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. I can't believe it. That Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until it got their alarm till we get there. I'll learn to get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco. What's this button? Do what's this button? Do what's this button? Do what's this? I believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Oh, roy. Isn't that the name of a dog food from WalMart? Okay. So by the way, all ROY. If I remember my Walton history was Sam Walton's dog. And that that that brand is one of the most preeminent dog food brands in the world. And they named it. After all ROY the dog in the coach Sonny. Like, I want to break out into a song there. Sunny. What's going on? Hey, buddy. Doing we're doing great. I just wondered about the women is they? Yesterday. Ring you talking about taking a Holly Warlick's place sunny. Yes. Couple of names out there. But nothing yet what eight oh. Well. My nose front runner is probably. Yeah. We'll try to remember. Kellie jolly what's your last name now? Yeah. I think she'd been mentioned a couple of times. Well, that's a. You know what? I and now. Thanks, you'd be a good. I'm going to go call. I'm I'm I'm gonna tell I'm a tell Philip that that he should hire her. Hey, thank you for the call, John in Memphis, Tennessee. Hello, john. Eight ball. How you doing Stephan? We're doing great. Thank you. I wanna give a shout out to little old Lipscomb them after making NIT funnel. Yeah. You know, watch that game the other night. And I tell you what John was just incredible knocked off Gregg Marshall in Wichita state, by the way. I mean, Gregg Marshall, I do think he's all over this Arkansas job, and whether whether state will which toss they will let him go or not, I don't know. But he he is certainly a contender as Bob whole told us, but that tell tell me more about Lincoln because I'm pulling for them tonight. I don't have the slightest idea I know they same league Belmont. And I think they lost him in the semi final or vital small school. I guess it's the middle of the state. And I just think it's great that I guess they're on the cut for the NC double h ornaments. But you know, and I I tell you what they have they they were down by eight or nine in that game. And they storm back and just blew. Blue Wichita state out came here who they played tonight, Texas or Colorado. I really don't the NIT is like a blur. I had the game on the other night. I was I was riveted to it. But I have no idea who they're playing tonight. Richard is up next in Tennessee. Hello, richard. Well, halo. I'll take McCall. Thank you. I wanted to talk a little bit. You're speaking of Zion. And a one man team now Duke is by no means that one team, but as an old eighty four year old, I remember the back of the pack long ago. Seattle had a man named Elgin. Bayer Baylor and he played pro ball for many years and was a one man team on the Seattle team. But that's the year that rep and the fifty eighteen beat him in the finals by ten points. So you can't build your team around one man without somebody. No, we have stopped him. Yeah. But you know, Senator Richard Duke was not a one man team. No, no. Cam you had RJ Barrett. I mean that was a pretty they just did not handle the pressure at the end of that game. I frankly think they lost a game at the end of the first half much like Williams lost the Auburn game. When when they they they should have taken a lead into halftime Michigan stages. Blew them out the the final couple of minutes, and they and Duke even though went back and forth about thirty times. Duke just never could get commanded that game. Well, you know, back in the sixties believe it was had three hit real good players. Hagan Rams interoffice Hagen. Those guys were there in the fifties, by the way, but rob was I don't know what happened to Lou. The lutes rob was a defensive specialist erupted put him on the half point man on the other team, and they had hold him to ten or under almost every time. And Hagan Ramsey would go loose and just gore and that was another championship team that poor team, you know, was penalized. Because a point shaving a few years earlier they had to sit out a whole season. And they were almost assured of an NC double h Richard. When you when you get caught point shaving, you're probably gonna pay price. I man. Hate that happened to the baron Joseph is up next in Saint Louis Joseph. Yeah. I just wanted to make a comment about Okoye coach in North Carolina. Right. He I watched that last game that he coast, and he hit absolutely no influence on that game that team just runs up and down to floor and play St. ball. And I'm sure that there's there's some coaches in North Carolina that can see the same thing. I see their shot selection was so bad. It looked to me like each guy was trying to win the game all by himself, but that's been going on for some time now. So I just think that he has no influence on a basketball game. Once it starts. I tend to agree with you. And and that's not to say he wasn't a really good coach. But ultimately, you're judge about what you do in the turnament, and I don't care about your regular season record North Carolina's was fantastic. But they've they have been exposed an embarrassed the last two years and the has to wear on you. Thank you, very very much for the call me while it looks like Arkansas is talking to Greg Marshall day. But remember the coke brothers, the famous business magnates who also politicos they kept Gregg Marshall there the last time for millions of dollars. Will they do it again? We'll keep your we'll keep her on. That story is the afternoon rolls on.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion than patterns re of college. Football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Could after we'll you choose day. And just when you thought there was a big coaching story in one part of the SEC lettuce, reintroduce you to Rick Barnes. Remember about a week ago? He was considering going to UCLA, but he decided to stay. But why did he stay? Rig Barnes telling some truth. We really get the truth of basketball coach. But listen to what he said earlier today about why he didn't take the job in Westwood. A lot of prey and went into it. I can tell you that there's a lot going on. But you know, when you get down to a situation like that, it has to make sense from a financial standpoint, it does have to and the bottom line is it just getting we just couldn't really work it out with the buyout in terms of what was going to be that part of it. So Rick Barnes would have been the UCLA coach had they been able to work out the buy out does that make you Tennessee fans feel about paying a guy four point seven million to stay when it was really a matter of financial decisions. Anyway, he's your coach now, and you gotta pay more headlines, including one from the by you. Bruce Feldman will join us later from athlete. He spent some time inside the war room. Yep. He lived to tell about it. He'll be with us a little bit later about it ores wrong. Meanwhile, how Jake from and the Andrea swift could accomplish a rare SEC feet in the twenty first century where does that beating Alabama? We'll find out later on. Conor Ogura returns to the show against my wishes. Bristle join us Brad Crawford. Your phone calls, of course at eight five five two four to seven to eight five still some reaction from Baton Rouge on the will Wade situation. That's starting to calm down at least for now. We'll find out on Friday whether or not he will have to testify in the southern district of New York on Monday or Tuesday or sometime next week in that federal trial. Again, you want to give us a call. You can do so now and the phone number is eight five five to four to seventy five. But what about Rick Barnes? He was leaving. If they could've found a better solution on his buyout at Tennessee. If UCLA said we'll cover most of it if not all of it. Then Rick Barnes would have been gone in Tennessee would have been looking for a new coach I want to get some reaction from big orange country. I realize he's there and Phillip Fulmer had to pay through the nose for coach who has been to a final four one at Texas didn't go with the best player in Texas history. And didn't. Go to even an elite eight with the best team in forty years in Knoxville. His buyout was five million dollars. And for that reason he stays in Knoxville, and you feel about that. Let's get some phone calls going here at eight five five to four to seven to eight five a lot of other things going on as well. We get to your calls beginning right now coach starts us off in Morristown, Tennessee, which isn't too far from Knoxville Tennessee coach. Aibo thanks for taking my call pre-state. It. Thank you just about Rick Barnes. I guess, you know, I only have about that is it's not good optics. But you know, who you're always think about the replacement who that might have been. So I think sees when the end up being in a better situation with Barnes than what it without arts. No matter what the optics look like. But really, I heard you. I heard you earlier on outside the lines, and you made a you made a good point about the situation in Baton Rouge about in the best term that I've heard so far, and it's legal gymnastics, and that's pretty much. I I don't know about you. But I don't know. I know in the sports world, there's not a contract out there that basically you can tell your boss, I'm not talking to you. And you survive it, nor is I Joel livas comment about contract. Obligations. I'd like to see that in the contract that says we'll wait doesn't have to talk to me. What is your coach? I wonder I had someone explained to be this afternoon. It was it was this person's theory that Joe alita intense to fire will way, but he he would prefer to fire him with with. 'cause which I think he already has. But I'm I'm not going to be the judge jury here, and it is just a game right now of of legal gymnastics. And if he ended up having to testify, then you have a stronger case to fire him. I don't know why L issue really is playing these games because I didn't hear. In reading all those statements coach a lot of enthusiasm. I mean, the university basically just hid behind the letter of the contract. And certainly Wade way didn't explain why he quit on his team. Why he quit on his administration by refusing to cooperate with them. I mean, I don't think anyone is explained anything down in Louisiana now. And he said that there the litter of the contract which goes back to my point. I don't know. And I know this this happened before, and I know, you know, even Bruce Pearl this little bit. I know Shawn Miller went to this. And they all have one thing in common, and that's the same attorney right involved here. But I don't know a contract coaching contract. That says in the letter of the contract, you don't have to speak to me athletic director. Listen, I I've seen I've seen the language. It's pretty it's pretty explicit. But you know, you don't sometimes I don't think the university really has a good plan. And I mean, let's let. Just play this out for a second. If you if you don't mind coach, let's say they fired him. Then they I think before I even asked the question, I think they wanted to get through the tournament. Because I I really believe they thought they had a chance to go far, and they went to the Sweet Sixteen I think now they're thinking it really doesn't matter if they if they fire will way, they're probably not going to be able to hire good coach. Anyway, because it will it will then look like they are guilty of NCWA violation. So they're they're putting up this facade. And it's facade that everything is okay. And they'll just hold their breath. And you know, what they're going to hold their breath on that the NC double A never can make a case. That's the new game in college athletics. Make them prove it and the NC double A's track record on proving things is not very good. Will he it? He gets out of having to testify, which I think will know Friday. Correct. That's going to. I'm almost like you. I'm kind of shock. Where it is today. But if he doesn't have to testify think next Monday, or Tuesday, whatever the day that is in New York, this he could there is a slight chance he could be back when I think I if he if he clears the the southern district courtroom, he probably will be back and the university listen about by next season. You will you won't be able to talk to fan in Louisiana. The thinks he's he's done anything wrong. And by the way, Bruce Pearl was I was on a similar path even though he was on a different track. It was not crystal no one ever accused Bruce Pearl of any wrongdoing. They just he just got caught up in his assistance. Right. That was totally different. They wouldn't call FBI on cap or anything has a totally different situation. So and it mean, it kinda grew the different similarity is that Bruce Pearl is not cooperating with his bosses either. Correct. That's the similarity where it starts and stops. But hey, I appreciate you. Take McCall coach. Great to hear from. You may Mike is in making GE. Hello, mike. Welcome to the show. Yeah. Just wanna comp comment about the Rick Barnes thing. I don't know how the Volvo fans are going to feel, but I know if I was a basketball recruit, it would definitely enter my mind, my coaches, probably just a buyout away from going to, you know, a different coaching job. And when you look at like coach Cal, you know, you hear all these things about him go into the pros go into some other job. He always shut that down emphatically saying Kentucky is the greatest place that I could ever be. Why would I want to go anywhere else? So not to not Rick Barnes. At least. He was honest about the situation, but the total commitment just doesn't you know, what I've heard some people say I mean, listen give Rick Barnes credit. He was brutally. I he was honest. But a wonder. What what did how he really feels about Tennessee? Now, something's wrong there in my opinion. He wouldn't have said that otherwise I mean, he was basically saying listen, I was leaving. It's like, you're married, and you flirt with leaving your wife or husband, and in the end that person doesn't really want you. So you go back, and then you admit, I would've I would've been gone. But I just couldn't I couldn't we couldn't quite pull this off. I mean, it's a bad statement to make and I don't know how Alibaba how it's going to play in Tennessee. I know how it's going to play elsewhere. And it makes it look like he really didn't want to leave. And if he did want to leave why did he want to leave? Well, you pointed out earlier, you know, when it was all that. Flip about him go into except the coach of the year honor, and nobody from the Tennessee, you know, right staff was there. And you know, there was something there, and you alluded to there might be something more behind the scenes, you know, I guess maybe we'll find out. Well, I hope so we we already know more than we did. Thanks for the call. We're up against the break. Eight five five two four seven to eight five a lot of guests will drop by here, including Bruce Feldman, one of the top riders in America all that coming up after this. When tracking the domestic dust bunny. You come to find them hiding under wardrobes next to loss. Socks. Don't move to sudden they'll scurry off what's ugly fascinating about the dust bunny is that although they're not actually sanctioned creatures when they have not only saves people money, but also has ninety seven percents customer satisfaction rating. It's obvious to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer. Ono is the dust bunnies. Only natural predator on the long dust on his run a long walk back to the show. Let's go to clay in Alabama your next up equally. Hey, paul. It's not a big deal for by. It's all about the money. Saving lost Auburn. He got it. Three million dollars a year race for losing doll after the pig. Six to not go to Texas. Why you made such a big deal about Barnes taking more money UCLA? We're once you get through your teams, right? He stayed at Tennessee and saving did not get a raise for losing. The pick six kick six game. You got a raise because he nearly did go to Texas for one hundred million dollars and his agent. Jimmy Sexton was able to mortgage that into a race. But thanks for the try anyway, good to hear from you. Keith is up next. Keith right ahead. Yeah. I just wanna know what seems power always against Tennessee. You talking to me? Yeah. Why why am I always against Tennessee? Well, let's let me let me try to think of the reasons. Okay. Born in Tennessee, lived in Tennessee my. In my youth. And my early teenage years went to the university of Tennessee, graduated from the university of Tennessee, which I heard you say nothing about him. You've never heard me say nothing ever good about Tennessee. Not back Mukalla Ratto cover my head not a single time. Yup. Me. Okay. So I you're you're Tennessee guy here Keith. But he don't they aren't. And where do you live Geck's per tendency? Jasper Tennessee Jack's borough Jack's borough. I'm sorry. I'm. Only lived there. Twenty all my life twenty one. I didn't get every single county. My life, but fifty fifty nine years where whereas Jack's borough Tennessee, it's about. Oh, but forty five minutes to our way from Knoxville. Forty five minutes to an hour away from Knoxville in which direction you so you're north toward Kentucky yet. I must admit I've never heard of it. Not many people hate to small Cam. And now, I'm I'm from Memphis. Have you ever heard of that yet? That's a big city that borders. Arkansas Mississippi, I've heard it. Yeah. You you'll waste move west west, Tennessee. Yeah. You've always been Tennessee fan. You me too. We're good here. You know, Barnes spoke the truth. I mean, he was gone. They gave me the money. That's what they've been saying all pout shows the Knox. Listen. Do you think it's good thing? Right. They kicked him. Yeah. He's a good coaching. We well. Here's a good coach. Credit? Turkey ended up giving their coach dot com contract. Keep. Now, what was that again Kentucky their coat lifetime contract? Keep on you're right. You're right and Barnes got something. So now, how do you feel about Pruitt? I liked him. So far, he's you know, had good creek near lice jerks considering how they come in. You know, he's from he's from Alabama. You know? Yeah. I know. I know. Mind him being down. No rocky said when he was at Alabama. They never beat Tennessee. When he when he was a player, right, right? I agree fake when he was a player. He's eighty dollars. We'll head coach sometimes because they said they dogs to nine times in a row. That's true. You remember those days when we? Yeah. Very well. I think you've been watching football back since what the seventy s. Like, sixty seventy Sixers. Yeah. We got a lot in common here. Keith. Remember the earning Bernie show. Oh, yeah. I was I was a new both those guys. Right. Right. Well, we need to get together one day and settle our differences. Okay. Okay. I don't don't. Well, yeah. Knoxville lot. Okay here for yet. We'll say we're where you wanna go. It don't matter to my favorite places there. I'll go anywhere. Okay. Keith I'll I'll see in Knoxville. All right, and Keith one more one more thing Keith, I'm gonna go Valls. Go go Voss. From from one graduate to another. Jason is in Kentucky. You're next up. Hey, Jason afternoon, Paul. How you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. Great to get in and talk to once actually shook your hand where you're in Lexington for the Georgia game last year. I'm which we could talk longer nice to have mentioned. Yeah. Anyway, I've got a question about nothing about Kentucky. I want to ask the question about LSU this. We'll wait situation. It's kinda I dunno. It's this weird situa-. I understand why the while the president of the university it and take any slack for accepted Joa livas recommendation if take of bringing him back on board. I don't understand that whatsoever. And I'll just go ahead and get off here. Let you comment. Thanks for good to meet you. I I really don't understand that either. Because unless there's some game being played behind the curtain that we're we are not privy to. It's hard to understand why they brought him back. First of all they didn't have to bring them back. They could have fired him six weeks ago for cause. And they chose not to do. It it seems like a short term situation. Now going giveaways on here yesterday thinking that Wade would be around for a while. But I think it all depends on next week. I if he can survive next week with this trial, and he probably will be the coach. Robert is up next hate Robert good afternoon. Could happen. Anyhow, you Paul. We are great. Thank you. I was just gonna you might have answered the question about we'll wait. I was going to I was gonna say maybe the problem with bar- him per causes. If the Justice department or the people that have the actual evidence or not LSU, right? Well, one day we would not to turn this into the people's court. But when he refused to cooperate with the university. It seemed like that would give them cause to get rid of him. He was inside net. That makes perfect sense to me. But you know, how to me it sounds like they're trying to get out of pain in for anything. And I it really does. And I had someone tell me today. They really believe that that that leva has every intention of firing him. But but he wants to be able to fire him cleanly. And and just cut the cord. I mean, really in in in all due respect to leave. If he fired him today or three weeks from now, it's not gonna make a bit of difference. Yeah. And the second thing the Alabama AJ game. I sit and watch most of it as much as you know, you can watch one of those James, and the only thing I really could take out of that is at two let's little bigger this year than last year and has a little more weight on him a little more muscular on and then last year, and so maybe he'll be able to make the entire season. Because to me that is his biggest drawback is injury. Good point. Hey, thank you, very very much. We'll take a break. We'll talk a little bit more about some of the conversations here including a good recap of spring games. Couldn't question our friend just asked more to come. We're back with Brad Crawford after this. Okay. We're back during the break. We were talking about ten questions. We want answered I didn't do a very good job answering them. But our our next guest. Brad Crawford is going to do a better job. I hope because he's already done it in in print and on his website. Right. Thanks for the call. Great to have you on. And man I wanted. I wanted to talk about the coming up with these questions. First of all before we even try to get the mansard. Good afternoon. ES really tough man five months out from the actual games beginning trying to create a list of ten questions that you know. No one right now at least in April has an answer to I was struggling on the on question number one the breakout. So who who's the breakout star going to be the breakout star in my opinion will be the militia pass rusher Kayla? Von chase on we'll be we'll be very good. I think Terrell Lewis at Alabama did not practices spring, but he's going to be a very good outside linebacker for the crimson tide. You can always count on Paul Alabama having a linebacker to who's an all American. That is true, Brad. Let's continue a second question. Concerned gusts Malas on will he keep his job? That's the million dollar question right now on the planes after watching these spring game Saturday, I think the quarterback position right now heading into spring. It was kind of unfamiliar territory. I I I'd say right now VO Knicks is likely the starter. True freshman, he did look pretty good Saturday as usual Auburn schedule will determine whether or not guess mel's on is, you know, going to have a positive I in November. You know, they play very tough teams early LSU middle of the year. They they have to play Obama at the end. So once again miles on season's gonna come down to a couple of games a couple of years ago. Paul, you know, mouths, John was able to beat Georgia and Alabama late in the year kind of extended his tenure, but since since that BCS championship game appearance. They're twenty one and nineteen against SCC competition that that's that's not gonna cut it on the planes. No, not at all. And. It's a it's a that's a real dilemma Brad, though. Let's go to number three. Behind to and from who's a number three quarterback in the. See? Up in the air. A couple of guys that I've kind of looked at this spring and have watched pretty closely Felipe Franks in Florida killing mon-, Texas, A M, and Joe borough at LSU those are the three guys that I think can kind of send to that top tier status behind to and Jake Jake Bentley's another guy Paul his he's now entering his fourth years starter probably going to leave South Carolina with passing touchdowns record in passing yardage record. But really has not had that signature win yet. So Billy's a guy that I think can raise his NFL stock, and and kind of leave a legacy at South Carolina. If he beats one of those nationally ranked teams as we continue with the questions, I really liked this idea of column. No, number four this fire. You hear the SEC coach of the year? If you see coach of the year is is going to be tough. I think Jeremy Pruitt though, has a path to get to eight and four the early Vegas number for for tenancies wins the seven I'm taking the overall anytime you make projections five months out, obviously, it's a guest, and and you're kind of looking at the roster and quarterback returning and that sort of thing, but they're certainly past two eight I think there's four wins in the non conference BYU and UAB should be easy wins. Tennessee has better talent on their roster than UK n vandy that step six, and then you kind of start looking at those twin games, South Carolina, South Carolina, Mississippi State, Missouri. You know, those were three games right there Paul that tendency is able to win two of those with a much improved team. They can get eight and four that is a really interesting analysis there. So if he does that you you haven't missed coach of the year right brand. I think if he wins eight games he deserves coach year based on. What Tenessee did last season? You know, they they kinda stub their two in November. And and looking at that final month this season faintness he can get their question. Number five. Ken Kirby gear George over the hump. I think you can you know, I I wrote a story on Monday talking about lifetime football contracts, and there's five or six coach nothing right now who deserve lifetime deal in in Kirby's kinda right outside the mix. Obviously the last couple of seasons has been very good for Georgia made to play off one time would have made it last season. It's going to come down to you know, can he beat Alabama and he'd be Auburn in November down the stretch did a good job last year beating Florida so there's going to be three or four games that determined Georgia's season. And I think right now if you ask me five months out, the BULLDOGS are probably a playoff team. So what happens with South Carolina? I think the schedule is just too difficult issue for we'll mush chant, but Gamecocks or one of two teams nationally that play Georgia, Clemson and Alabama. They get Alabama early in September. You know, I I had a follower dummy this week that the game costs would have a shot in that game because it's an early season game last September Alabama average fifty four points a game and two it didn't take a snap in the fourth quarter. So then really matter when you play Nick saving. It's never a good Saturday next question. I think this is the easiest one that you ask yourself or I'm asking you. We'll Arkansas improve. There's nowhere to go. But up I'm I'm with you on that. Then you have to with only two wins last season trae knocks balls a guy highly rated receiver. I think we had him as a top ten guy at his position this year at twenty four seven fours. He's a guy who will make an immediate impact. And all console now has to decent quarterbacks to choose from who can play now. So Chad Morris, maybe maybe the ceiling is five wins. But you know, I think if he can double his win total this fall or console fans will be happy. And what does LSU do for an encore under coach? Oh. So LSU's the team this year that I've kind of circled as the SEC slash playoff. Darkhorse obviously LSU was able to benefit last season from coming in, and you know, really not having high expectations from a national standpoint. I think is makers had LSU with seven wins last year. And they and they were able to get the ten Joe borough almost had three thousand yards in his first season as a quarterback, and I think after a full off season. He's going to be much improved one position group LSU that fewer were talking about right now is wide out where you know, Jomar chase. And some of those young guys are are very talented. So we're going to see a much better LSU offense to season. And and I think if they can win at Texas in week two they're going to be five and hosts and Florida with, you know, a a top top five ranking on the line talking to Brad Crawford and the next question balls, Missouri as a possible darkhorse with all the AA things still up in the air. Although there's speculation that. Could still get to a bowl game under Kelly Bryant Kelly. Bryant is going to help that program out. Drew lock was not bad. But you know, Mizzou could not beat some of the top teams on schedule last season. They they did have that good win over Florida who's kind of surprised there. But it's all about schedule favorability for the Tigers this season, they they should be favored I eight weeks of the season. They can beat West Virginia. I I think there's a good chance that Mizzou will be eight and no going to Georgia on November ninth. And really Mizzou right now is an underrated team that that nobody's talking about. And the final question. When we ask every year which team can possibly unseat Alabama. Guess the big question is it going to happen? I think LSU in Texas A and M or the two teams with enough talent maybe to be Alabama on a given Saturday. But as far as winning the west is, you know, it's still going through Tuscaloosa and schedule is the toughest in college football. I wouldn't say last season for JIMBO Fisher was fool's gold. But you know, he he won more games than maybe he should've in his first season one that epic seven overtime game against LSU in college station has to go there this season. I don't think the aggies win that. So if I if I had to pick one team that maybe has a shot at unseating Bama, even though they haven't in eight years eight year winning streak now gonna sell issue. But Tigers would be that team bread. Great. Steph really liked the concept. Hopefully can do this again, very soon. Thank you for your time. That'll be one Paul great stuff. That was really interesting. I mean, th that's what a writer has to do. I mean, not that I'm a writer, but they used to be to come. With an angle, and I thought Brett really Tim open the very clever angle, they're more to come as we continue right here on the program. Glad you are. With us. Philip is in Memphis. Hello, philip. Hello. Do you great to hear from you? I just wanted to to correct Cup of the statement that your gentleman from a hundred miles north of Knoxville mate about Tennessee success against Alabama. I and I hate disabuse the big orange of widely-held belief. But believe me when I tell you that Tennessee has never beaten Alabama nine years in a row now Bama has been Tennessee nine years in a row haven't they if we're on a twelve year streak right now? But no, that's not gonna last forever. I go. Hello. What I do. Remember the streak it will. It was in the what the eighties ninety ninety five. Oh, one seven seven years in a row, and then Dennis Francioni wind up there in one a game. He did. Sure did. But this has been a streaky series know, somebody always wins several at road rarely been back and forth counts. I never seen a series. Phillip I just did you say twelve in a row. Alabama. Yeah. You know, I knew that. I knew it'd been forever was it, but ninety let's see oh six was the last time. See one. Yeah. I mean, I knew that. We I remember that game a tough game and Phil Fulmer versus Shuler. But Sheila, choose me. But but it's still just that's a number that I two of us are not familiar with the series. It's it's hard to believe. Because really when we were younger. Yeah. This was the game. Coast riled rather be Tennessee and beat on T game of the season. He always took the Tennessee game to prepare the team for and it it's really been a a hot rivalry. There. Was that unfortunate interlude when Fulmer? Brought Alabama before the NCAA, and we're not going to settle that here. I won't go into that. We went down. That's why we didn't have. Good ending there. But we we are. Is it lasts forever? I understand that. But it it's been it's been ironic really for him after Alabama in order to to put them under for good. And it backfired on him. I guess. Saving his Dennis. He's number. Most Tennessee had Ryan some for a long time. You know, sure. You never know. But power got a phony little story if you'll indulge third year. I was in the hospital a couple of weeks ago and had surgery before the surgery, I told the doctor that I was disappointed that television. That did not connect to the SEC channel. And I told you it would undoubtedly enhanced my recovery if I watch sandbox show, and he he third up and sit I'll have that done for you Parenti word got around because it five minutes to every single day, nurses, and doctors and interns and residents and bit Bank commandos coming into my road, and they wouldn't leave when they stayed in all afternoon, I didn't have any privacy between two and you got it. I got it. That's where you one of the bigger hospitals in Memphis is national X Nashville. Okay. Without the makes sense. Yeah. And they they took care of it. And I I. Well, we need to get more hospitals demanding the SEC because it clearly helps recovery and it also make sure you never have to ring the bell for your doctor unquestionably. It was it was a double whammy for million. That's fantastic. Well, fill up it's been too long. I hope you hope you're doing better in look forward to seeing. Great to hear from Philip an old friend from Memphis. That's a great story, by the way. Dan is up next in Louisiana. Hello, dan. Paul. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Bhalla who's a great show yesterday? The only thing I didn't hear was a purple haze by Jimi Hendrix. Well, we'll see if we can get it back for you today. I'm kind of sick of this. So we'll wait situation. But scored answer Vermeille that's see y to the end degree roll the dice. You can't catch me. That's a pretty good way of putting it. No. I don't really want to talk about it much. I was wanting to talk about the college football season. I had a little Diddy here, and I was just going to say beautiful island. Sure. Go right ahead. So K in the east Georgia. Georgia BULLDOGS is beast pokes out of any gate, who's got you granny chop chop chop doubts better. Watch your fanny the other teams by third will must have scape. Caught crash and burn in the west to best at way mo- incurs Sheridan, the crimson tide is no contests. But aggies Tigers and dogs. Oh mile or not convinced or not complex Albans woes could continue this ain't no country for fifteen dollars eight nine ten win teams. One or two said bigger dreams defense coaching schedule heart all these things my play apart. Well done, Dan. Thank you, very very much met in Texas is next. How you doing on the show mccaren? How're you doing bud undoing pretty good? I like your show so far like even I married that calming your time by French schone. I remember the game. I watch one time is okay. Everyday story real quick for a telephone thing in football. I'm Mary story. Fern schone one time where I was watching a game with in in the members. I think he lost by four touchdowns. What they believe he lost to. Oklahoma like seventy sixty or seventy two nothing if I remember correctly also out the door check, it was it was one of the most embarrassing games ever. Yeah. And then one of my friends at work I as talking to me finish furniture, and he's not that bad of a coach go really n Christopher Columbus. Dakhla did. Yeah. But I wanna talk to you by texting in football for her with that guy was talking about killing him on. And how he's you do good this year, and maybe LSU probably win the west Paul. I don't know if we were said, I don't think else you had you real shot at beating Alabama because I'm just going to be for rear ho call went to last time LSU ever being Dan Lewis since what two thousand eleven. Well, they haven't won since you're right. So what makes them else you can't think they're really going to beat Bama this year eighty four realistic shot of beating? Bama I Kyle field. Hey, hey, by the way back. I was wrong Oklahoma in uh Oklahoma won the game seventy seven to nothing when Dennis Francioni was coaching day. Seventy. Nothing. Can you believe that he lifted Alabama for Texas A&_M, and that was the karma? He got.

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Hour 1: 11/1/18

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 1: 11/1/18

"Welcome to belt official retail department store at the SEC with department stores in the southeast. We get your passion. We know. It's more than a game. It's a way of life and part of the modern southern lifestyle. We deliver every day at belt, you'll find new looks from the best brands like Michael Kors, Frye, free, people under armor and more all at great prices. You'll love the fashion you desire the value. You deserve that's modern southern style. Experience today in store or at belt dot com. Fills like almost a decade ago because it was that was back in twenty eleven the last time the LSU fighting Tigers defeated the Alabama crimson tide. And since then it has been seven straight wins Peter burns, I'll be hosting the Paul finebaum show for the next four hours, and it has been one sided take a look at this Alabama though coming in to Baton Rouge has not scored more than thirty five points and be our since nineteen twenty five at has been held at twenty one or fewer points in each of the last four trips down to LSU and not one not two three four five not six but seven straight and readings included the national championship game. We'll be talking a lot about that. I was in the building. I was in Bryant Denny stadium in twenty eleven and saw that. And I was also in tiger stadium. When TJ yelled in took that screen pass in two thousand twelve and since then it's been a whole lot different between Alabama and LSU will break down that game, Georgia, Kentucky and college football midterms coming up next. This is the Paul finebaum show. Welcome to the Paul finebaum show, presented by pilot flying j. What's up, y'all? Welcome into Mr. Burns's neighborhood. Yes. I do look like Mr. Rogers today. I'm going to go ahead and just throw myself underneath the bus for that. But we got a lot of football to get into is week. Ten in statement Saturday is coming. That's right. Hey, let's go ahead and take a look at the slate of the games that we have an Auburn that BA games coming up on noon over on ESPN, Georgia Kentucky winner goes to the AT L big game in Lexington. LSU alabama. Of course, we'll talk about that. One Ken to Florida Gators bounce back after the loss in Jacksonville last week to the Missouri Tigers who were stunned by Kentucky. But again, I can't wait for is. Well, it'll be on here. Noon eastern over on the SEC ESPN network. That's where you're watching us right now, these two teams, South Carolina at old miss first meeting since oh nine and believe it or not remember when mill will must champ was there at Florida and now with South Carolina. He's never faced ole miss as a head coach. All right. So now, helping us be the radius. Presented by Holiday Inn expresses the quarterback for the Gamecocks. Jake. Bentley Jake are you healthy one hundred percent healthy moment. Yes, sir. Feeling good ready to go? You know, obviously whenever you missed the game earlier trying to take that next step and get there. What was the injury was as easy as it MC L that you just had a hard time kind of plant and throwing. Yes. So just a great one MCS brain nothing. Nothing too serious. A definitely just need a few weeks to get back. Right and feel great now. So I'm ready to go. My man, I told you this earlier in the week you guys frustrate me sometimes because I look at you in the first half. And I'm thinking who is the South Carolina team is all of a sudden you come out and gangbusters in the second half. What what's being done at at halftime that's making the difference. Yeah. I think it's just the resiliency of our team. It's just the culture that we built here really just a team that just battled back through anything and attain. That's not going to quit fighting. Obviously we want to play better than the first half. And and we've. We've we've got a plan to do that going forward. But I think it's just a team that just, you know, bags against the wall just comes out swinging that mentality. And it's just part of our team of how we do. But we need to do better than the first half as well. What's the one thing? You guys are proud of that you feel like you are doing well at this point in the season. They were responding. Well, I think you look at Tennessee game. They came out and had a big drive in third quarter, and they're often interest bonded. Well, we we came out and got us a big touchdown right there. And then at the end of the game we needed to stop defense, and we got it. And so I think I think in situational moments sides of the ball played well and just responded when the team needed the most say this is why like having quarterbacks in good quarterbacks here on the show when I'm hosting because we always have these IFP's what they call the earpieces on. And it's popped out of your ear like six or seven times here, and you just roll through the questions like there's no problem. That's that's when you know, you have some pocket awareness. Bentley over, sir. Sure. That you know, you just kinda go out every once in a while. I gotta make sure listen to every word you got say, listen, a lot of people wanna tune me out when all hosts this show. Hey, so when you're looking at film and ole miss, listen, I'll say it. You don't have to say, I don't think MRs very good on defense. But when you guys are looking at film, you're looking at the positives at what dangers they can bring. What do you see in that ole miss defense coming off a bye, very multiple? I mean, they'll mix it up defensively. One high two safeties really just give a quarterback all the different looks at it can and really try to just do whatever they can to make it hard on offense. And obviously statistic wise you can get into that. I may not look great. But they have some good players over there and some great athletes. So we come in with the right mindset, and it'd be ready to go. One of the things that's interesting. And we see you've always been like, Mr. sportsmanship? Right. You'll ever they'll Gamecocks fans are always going crazy. And yet there are a lot of people that were wondering, hey, when you got banged up and Michael scarred. Nikki came in how that was going to handle what's your relationship like over the net me and scar. We call them scar. Just his last name to Anglo, but scar best friends, we hang out all the time. He's he's been there for me ever since I've been here and really just helped me along the way. It was only right for me to be there for him and help him in every way. I can I could that game. And he really did a great job. He did a great job of taking care of the ball and leading team that game. And he's ready to go each and every game. And he pushes me practice each and every day and just stay really great friend where the great teammate. There's a kind of funny when you hear about quarterback controversies and all of the relationship between these dude you laugh when you hear other people who don't know the relationship when when they're they're questioning it. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people from the outside. They have different opinions of you know, me and scarred on like each other, whatever. But you know, I it just funny because me and score just you know, each and every day, we we laugh and just, you know, have a great time together. That's what football is really about about the relationships that you have. On the team and relationships that are going to be for life, though, man, I was hoping you would say like I'm never going to he's never going to be my fortnight partner do or call the duty or something like that. Which one of those you on right now, you know on call duty and some red dead redemption right now. So it's gotta be hard right going from call of duty in fort, which is so much action to like just slow and go of red dead, redemption. Right. It is it is slow different. But. I got the I got the really fast horse. So I get I get around get around pretty fast man is put in some hours for real quick. Did you do any trick or treating last night? Didn't we you know, we sat outside our house on the porch know with with some candy right for the kids to come by. But I guess no one wants to come out a little cold last night. Oh, wait. What would you? Would you go as well? What was it cost you? So I was I was a biker biker gang me me, and my buddy got mopeds. So we crushing you're crushing it who had the best outfit and who had the worst costume on the team. Oh, man. I'd say. Say are one of our quarterbacks. He's also the holder Danny Gordon, he's he's a red head. So he dressed up as a leprechaun. Oh, it was. It was perfect. It was perfect real quick. Do you think coach bus champ dressed up last night? No. But little joke on the team. We say could address it as Fred Flintstone. He kinda got looks very similar. Oh, there's similar connection there. And you know, what I'm going to get a textual. Well, he's not gonna like Jake Besse lock in red dead redemption with your fast horse, and and hopefully you guys get off to a fast start this week against ole miss. Okay. Thank you remote areas. Jake Bentley a video game kinda sore and friend of Michael scar. Nekia? All right. We got a bunch of headlines to get into let's get into it howls, Alabama LSU viewed by Ed Odur on. Well, he's saying the truth. And we know it's a troop. He's not going to say like it's like every other game. Because not every other game gets big game. Sound like this? This game always has great significance. When it comes to winning the SEC west. Donald babble bus goes above present. There's a lot of good big fast players out there. I think they're going to be playing with pretty nasty intentions that approach to this game should be like another game. This is going to be a hard-fought game, you know, up front within a passing game as well. I think within all cylinders of the special teams, I think it's gonna be real good match. Team that we want to be would need to be. Can you execute walk? The guy you're supposed to block safe. You can get moving on them. Put your hands in the right place. Tiger stadium in this loud. You'll be stress you play on defense. You'll be instructs. I've heard it's going to be a very very loud environment. It's going to be a hostile environment as well. As the best place over the play the crowd bubble. So high. To Nepal is alternative energy will be stressful bowl touch. We'll see what happens to the game. I gotta check into my flight right now, I've literally have taken off one weekend in the history of the anchor here the SEC network that was to get married and my second weekend that I'm taking off this weekend. I'm not working this weekend. I'm not doing my SPN radio show on Sunday because I got to be in the stadium for that one. And yes to it's going to be very loud in death valley. We'll break down that game a little bit more in in later. But how about this dog nation Kirby? Smart ones Georgia about Kentucky's defense, and rightfully so. Because his defense right there at Clemson the top two defenses. I think in the entire country a lot of that has to do with Josh Allen. And if you think it's going to be loud in Baton Rouge. Just wait until you hear the environment. And lexi. The crowd. Probably game stadium. I'm excited for for our players. They've worked extremely hard to be put in this position. You don't get games like this unless you don't, you know, unless you take care of the business that you have to throughout the season. It's going to be what I what I've been dreaming about is going to be that that big moment that big game. That's going to be a fight to the their their physical football team. You know, they get they get after you never really well really experienced to you know, they got some seasons. Guys who played a lot of football championships to win the SEC east as big as program, and certainly going to your I feel like everybody overlooks. They always think we're the underdog, and we look at that as motivation, we've made it this far, you know, but we still got more. We still got more games. Don't win. We still got more people to prove wrong. This isn't the biggest game for Kentucky football this year or five years or ten years. This is not just the biggest sporting event that they've had in two decades. This is the biggest sporting event that's been held it on campus in Lexington. This what I want to say eighty years right since what you're talking at that long. It's been till something big this big has happened. The winner goes to the SEC championship. And let me tell you. It's going to be the Kentucky. Wildcats. I'll explain a little bit later of why I think that's going on. And how about this major news? I was breaking just right before this show NC double A lifts the recruiting ban for ole miss. All right. So this NCWA case is done. And it's been something that's been hanging over the heads at Oxford and Ross Bjork in Matt Luke and this whole program for wanna say years. Now, remember, they had the added bowl band seniors could transfer. They were find now the NCAA has come out. Said, hey, listen, they were overstepping their boundaries to a certain extent that they no longer have a cap on unofficial visits. Now, this is huge. Now. A lot of people are going. Well, it's not a big deal. Right. Because this means that ole miss didn't get their bowl ban rescinded. That's true. They still have a bowl ban coming up this year. They're not going to be able to go to one. But this and no longer capping the unofficial visit is ten times bigger than a bowl ban. Right. So had they lifted the bowl band that would have been great for the kids, and I would have loved to have seen it. Right. But those extra twenty practices that would have helped maybe one year down the road next year's team. Get a little bit better them, not capping the unofficial visits anymore is monstrous because now you can say I can go full full bore Ford. And this news helps ole miss football for three four years down the road as opposed to the bowl band being rescinded down to just been one. We'll talk to Ross Alan JARA about all of this coming up at three thirty including the big game down in baton. Rouge between the LSU Tigers and the Alabama crimson tide that Ross Bjork coming up in about forty five minutes to let's I want to get his thoughts were they high five in where they disappointed what it all this think about what happened with the double light booger McFarland. He's not bringing his fancy car, but he will being his thoughts coming up the LSU defensive tackle. And more of your phone calls coming up as well. Eight five five two four two Paul is the phone number. Yes. Me and my Mr. Rogers sweater. We'll be right back. You can always hit us up on Twitter at Peter burns ESPN. It's a normal day. You're rushing out the door to get to work on time. When suddenly there it is the dreaded service light. So what is it? This time tire pressure low coolant time for an oil change. When it comes to surface lights head to jiffy lube. We've got you covered drive in today. Make the switch to Pennzoil ask for Pennzoil synthetics getting you back on the road in a jiffy. Jiffy lube, leave worry behind. I welcome everybody. Back into the Paul finebaum show. You can hit me up on Twitter at Peter burns ESPN, and we could get to your phone calls right now. Lexington might as well head there because everybody's going to be out there this weekend. Steve what's going on, man? Hey, brother woke somebody else ball coach catch up tomorrow. If I can't get over pneumonia. But. Couple of points. I wanna make about misery. Craig gang. It was. The defender because he eligible receiver out of the end zone while the ball was in the air. I used to do the same thing. And that's passing a fierce will only if you get caught somebody hit our quarterback. But no flag ever came out with a crowd of his head. Crowd of his hat crowd of his hat. Nobody call. Came out pretty even in that game. Now, I agree with Jean choosy national championship winning coach. And a lot of other people that Kentucky shot to win this game. And now, I'm gonna tell you what great divas championships in the Baltimore Ravens will championship. Did. They have a hall of fame quarterback. Had a good quarterback hall of Famer, Dave. Real quick before you drive in. I'm glad you said that I lived in Denver, Colorado. I was on the field right there. When the Broncos had Peyton Manning on the field. They were ready to go. This was a loaded team back in two thousand twelve in. Joe flacco did enough to win that game. But more importantly, it was Baltimore's defense that was the difference maker. And that's the reason why they were a wildcard they were underdog in every single one of those games late into the season. But something felt special and they won a Super Bowl. I I saw it firsthand. And you're right. The ravens do remind me in two thousand twelve like a little bit of a Kentucky wildcat squad. I'm glad yeah. I'm glad you we agree on this because I'm okay? What would you remember too late in the nation? You can't win. If you can't score. Now when I coached we just throw the ball all over the yard. Kentucky's got into pass, which is why we've not been successful. We need to worry about defense. It was all office Jerry ranch, and Jim couch dusty Bonner the list goes on and on three hundred yard catch every game. But we did win. You can't if you can't score. Josh Allen are. It's gonna go number three in. By the way. He's he's. The lowest ranked player in our recruiting class that here. And now he's become a star in the first round. Traffic. So if you can't with which we run so many. And give a quarterback so many different looks look last year. They won. Thirteen. But the running back scored six touchdowns those two running backs screen the NFL vein walking through that door Saturday afternoon. And so Kentucky has a legitimate shot to win this game. Because defense often fans in the stands at defense wins championships. They Kentucky's got one of the best of America's Dave. Thank you for the phone call. And guess what? You're right one ever. Mark stoops said, hey, we're going to what are we trying to do your? Why are we trying to be an air raid squad? We're going to go back to run in the wild people are like, wait a minute that that was kind of your punchers chance and March dukes has the hell with that. You know, what I'm going to recruit guys? And maybe they aren't the five stars at Alabama gets our state gets or or Oklahoma gets. But guess what? If I build the right team. And that's what it is. I was down in Lexington met with that offensive line. They were ready to roll and same thing. They they are ready in their the defense has been the difference maker Wildcats right now, they're getting pressure. Forty three percent of the time. They bring some type of blitz package. Okay. You know, what Jake froms QBR is when he's under pressure three point nine. Now that's on a scale of zero to one hundred when Jake. From faces pressure. His QBR is three point nine. He answered the bell against Florida. But I think Florida had some had had an injury or suspension that that hurt them as far as their Cornerbacks. I think Kentucky is better fit for that game. That's why I like that matchup. Another matchup. I can't wait to go to down in Baton Rouge. Steve in bug LUSA. What's happened to Steve? Yeah. I've been hearing. I'll last. Two three weeks about this. Great LSU deviant. That's going to stop Alabama's off. You don't seem sold on that. Steve what what why why are you hesitant about that? Well. Alabama LSU it played one team in common for sure that told me. Many poets it great defense gave him. How many dab Alabama's? Seven seven. So. Unless you may be able to slow down Alabama soften. But the thing about it is that they can only slow down. Alabama's off. Alabama's defense is going to shut down. That's a big question. Thank you for the phone call. And what's interesting is when you start looking at the numbers, it's pretty crazy. The last eight games against Alabama. How about these numbers LSU has averaged ten points game? Okay. In the last eight games in the last eight games against Alabama. They have scored eight touchdowns eight touchdowns. That's nuts. They've never scored more than twenty points. However, this is also an Alabama defense, which I don't think is bad. I just don't think it's as incredible as it's been in the past. I'm going to break down the LSU blueprint to beating Alabama a little bit later. I'm not saying I think they do I will tell you what has to happen because everybody's making this big deal out of its two of versus Ellis shoes. Defense. That's like the fourth most important thing in this matchup Alex plane, why that is rust Alan JARA sports Illustrated's going to join me next. I'm Peter burns. You can have up on Twitter at Peter burns. ESPN? This is the Paul finebaum show. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the events of football, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows broken. It was savage digit. Do anything to help, bro? I was in survival mode. Your football can't help you in a hailstorm. But the guy go insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Call gyco to see how a forcible homeowners insurance can be of everybody back into the Paul finebaum show. Peter burns sitting in for Mr Paul finebaum. We've been doing this on Twitter if you follow us at five bomb because I voted early today. And I thought it was pretty cool. It was easy to do. I highly recommend you do it. No matter. What team you're going forward? Do it. So we said we're going to do college football midterms today. And so one of the questions that in the ballot box was should the SEC Goto a nine game conference schedule. So make sure you go on finebaum the Twitter account. Will update as precincts? Go, and we'll have like, you know, the touchscreen about, hey, this county needs this many votes will do that a little bit later, but I'll ask Ross delegates Sports Illustrated, and is helping us be the radius. Brought to you by Holiday Inn express all right deli. Where you roll a with nine games schedule. I'm going to ask you to not go in behind the ballot box. I'm asking you to disclose your vote right now nine games schedule. Yes. Or no. Oh, I'm I'm probably in a. Yeah. I'm probably a proponent for that, you know, I. Certainly don't want to you watch, you know, LSU Alabama or any of those major conference teams play FDA pose. And I don't like that. You know? That's no fun. I think that I think that a non game schedule you could trust your way, you you had that you have nine good conference games. And you have one of you know, major conference game out of conference game. And then you had to others you have maybe for mid major. And I think that would be a good set schedule. But you know, coaches are not gonna agree with that they want that they want that like what they might call the second by or even the third by getting that FCF's team or getting that that fourth non-conference mid major game. So I don't know if we're ever going to get there. Yeah. I mean, I'll be honest with you, and I'm with you Ross. So I think we're in the same boat. The fact that I would like to see it. Hell I'd like to see ten conference games. In fact, just the seed from all of the college football and just play all SEC into a sixteen game schedule, but that's a different story. But if you're the SEC. And you played for eleven of the last twelve national championships and you've won nine out of. I don't think you really need to change a whole lot of things like you don't need to try to be more like the Pac twelve pack twelve stinks. And guess what they have a nine game conference schedule. All right enough your votes there. I gotta talk LSU Alabama. You've been in Baton Rouge for a long time. How does this feel in the two to five compared to years prior? Yeah. I mean, it can me if I'm gonna compare a year. Since I've been here twenty thirteen it probably most reminds me of the of the game in in twenty twenty fifteen which was over in Alabama. That's when the believe boat school is to feed it you. Remember, Leonard fournette was on that crazy run Alabama shut them down the big win over there. I mean that kind of would have reminds me of. But the fact that this one's at home and tiger stadium. You could probably go back to twenty fourteen data LSU team had already like I think they had lost two games already. But they were kind of on a roll they had they had beaten ole miss at home and ole miss. It was like number three in the nation. They were undefeated then they had to buy mad. Bama in men won like three in a row. And there was a lot of excitement around here that LSU could really do it at upset Alabama. I think they would probably fourteen point underdog at home about the same as it is now and then LSU team had two losses in wasn't probably wasn't near as good as this one. And there's a lot of excitement around here. And you'll remember LSU took. Alabama over Tom. And had a storm back in the fourth quarter tied up in and then one in overtime. So I guess this one is also here in tiger stadium. It'd be it kind of reminds me more about that. You know, more of that in that atmosphere was it was incredible. I was the first year the expanded tiger stadium with the south end zone. And it was it was Rockin. You look at Nick Sabin when he's gone to LSU when he's coached Alabama. He's gone played LSU in Baton Rouge. A six point win a three point win a four point win a seven point win and then two years ago at ten point win. So there hasn't been that blow out there's always been kind of those close games. Now this Alabama team is completely different than any other Alabama species. You know, like in scary movies or like we've never seen a species like this. That's Alabama football with the passing attack with two. I ask you this for LSU fans ninety nine one hundred percent of them are pulling for LSU to beat Alabama. But what percentage of LSU fans legitimately think they have a chance of this upset is it. Fifteen percent. Thirty percent. Fifty percent. I would say probably less than fifty percent, Peter, you know, LSU fan there. What? Oftentimes. Yes, negative. I think there's a lot of that in like, you said, I mean family's just you know, I think any team that played bam. A fan base is is probably going to be like, well, we're not we're not gonna win this one. I mean, look at what this team has done. So I think I think that a lot of LSU fans like that that kind of thing like that. I think there's a decent shot segment of LSU fans though that look at Bama schedule and look at the is they they played in in say, hey, look, you know, we're we're never ever faced the defense in a team in general as good as as we are Joe, maybe we got a chance I think there's a big percentage of that too. When Ross Deljo Sports Illustrated joining Peter burns here on the Paul finebaum show when you look at and you look at all the angles of this game, and you always come up with really good stories for Sports Illustrated. What what has been kind of one of the more interesting things you've discovered or learned about or written? About this week in how it plays into this game. Is there anything that really kind of popped up on the radar? Well, there's a game, you know, inside the game in actually writing about it right now. And hopefully tonight, it'll it'll post on dot com. But it's it's about LSU secondary. Again, again to in his receivers in that RPO scheme. They have and how difficult it is for defensive back to not to faith in RPO run past options game, not just face to face this one that is just so successful and has been getting on all through under the executions incredible to get the ball out so quickly. He read things so fat and LSU's gonna you're not going to get less miles this week kind of get an idea of how you would Finn that RPO in. And I think they both believe, you know, LSU will do what it what it often. Does it plays man coverage on the outside rule press man coverage to try to beat that kinda RPO game? But if they're going to do that, you've got a probably have a spy. Despite a quarterback, you know, like a linebacker to spy to if you've got some legs on two in that might end up being the difference in the game. You know village. Bill does play good man covers secondary kid in. If they at least hold Alabama could be. You know, a decent yardage as far as rushing been to have to make some plays with his feet. And if he can do that Alabama win if he can't maybe she's got a shot that that's kind of the game. You know inside of the game. Last question for you LSU fans have talked about widing out the stadium for free. Devon white. I mean, we've seen billboards. The thing has got kinda crazy. Right. So would Devon wide. He had the targeting penalty last time we saw him. We'll have to sit out the first half percentage of LSU fans who actually wear white for the white out. This thing's not happening is it. I don't think. So I don't think. So I ended up percentage, you know, usually there's a good bit of whitener stadium. Anyway, probably, you know, white or blue and gold. There's usually the split. You know, maybe twenty percent white. Maybe we see an extra ten percent white. All right. Looking forward to it. I assume you're covering that game. You'll be down there this week, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll be in the stadium, and I will be at bogeys on Friday night. So come by and in. Have a have a an adult beverage or fifteen with yoga. Hey Latham owes at bogies football player of make me a drink. So I'm going to stay out of there. Okay. Listen, I I will make sure I'll be your bartender right there. We'll call daily hard times and see what she can come into town for that one as well to Ross Eljay, great stuff. And I appreciate the time. Right. All right. Thank here is. All right. So quick commercial break. And when the soon as we get back, I want to talk to Kyle Matt Kenny Chris Randy in Mickey your phone calls coming up next. You can't get through hit me up on Twitter at Peter burns ESPN or tweet us at fine ball. I we roll on. And the Paul finebaum show. Peter burn sitting in for Mr Paul finebaum. You can hit me up on Twitter at Peter burns ESPN. Someone is asking you like every time burns hosts, he talks about different video games. So far. We've had call a duty. We've had fortnight we've hit red Deborah dimsum into the sequel. We've also hit NCWA football someone try to work in techmo bowl here in a little bit. Some of your phone calls. Let's go Thomas Georgia. Let's go out to Mickey what's happened to Mickey. Hey, what's up, man? How are you? I'm great role chat. Look the thing that concerns me about the the Alabama LSU game. And it doesn't have anything to do with Xs emotes. No one's really saying anything about Jalen hurts. And the reason I bring you up, you know, had surgery. I didn't have you first of all I didn't you had surgery always point ankle. I would like to know what his status is in Casey is called upon you know, the new situation that to a half. But. But I I think this is a key component in this in this football game. Jalen has called abuts just wonder also during these two weeks getting ready leading up to this ballgame. How much you rich or freshman Mack Jones has gotten in practice shoot. He'd be needed in case. Jalen keiko? Are you hearing anything on Jay? Well, the only thing I've heard that Jalen that they expect him to be back for this game. If indeed he's needed. Now. The question is I I do think to a finally has to play in the fourth quarter. I think that game comes down to it. I wouldn't be concerned with in as far as for MAC Jones. We saw he was able to do in the spring game. I mean, I love SEC football. Because listen, they don't do this on the Pac tin network, right? Or I actually I don't even know if they have one Pac twelve network, nobody gets it. They don't do this on the big ten network because no one's gonna talk about the third string quarterback battering in the game. And I love it because it may play into this game. Or at least fans thinks so I'm not concerned about the MAC Jones Jewish in nor-. Jalen hurts having to play. If he does I think he'll be good enough to play. If needed and again, I'm not sure how much you will see Jalen hurts. I think this is all to going forward against a secondary that listen Alabama. There is some truth to that Alabama has not faced a secondary like this. And I think even a front seven now, frankly it hasn't mattered, right? So far because they've been that good. I will say this though, Mickey and thank you for the phone call before I take the next phone call every year, Alabama and LSU get a by before this game. And I think since twenty twelve the bye week has actually hurt LSU. And what I mean by that is I think for over the last couple of years twenty thirteen fourteen fifteen all these years, Alabama has become such a big boogey man that LSU had all this extra time to be like, well, maybe we should do this. Or what if we do this? Well, how about this? They didn't go about it like a normal week. And I remember a couple years ago and etto Ron was the head coach, and he had taken over they were interim they were having fun throwing the ball all over and. Were they were out wide. Right. They're having fun. All of a sudden it was Bama weekend. It was like everybody tightened up. So to a certain extent. I I'm not sure how much the bye week has helped LSU, and it always helps Alabama because everybody has an extra ten days to think about how the hell do we actually beat this team? Let me let me get one more quick phone. Call in here, home what Alabama Kenny what's going on. We're going on Peter. How are you? How are you man? We got a hell of a week of football coming up, man. I'm so ready for this game. Hey, what is going to come out? You know, everyone say jumped out and saying or not not that you know, they haven't played good offense yet. But I just don't think Joe quarrel could go Koto with two I think LSU secondary's not going to be able to stop Jerry, Judy. You know Smith, you know, you know, you don't water. Parable. My prediction. It's forty two Kim rooftop Kenny. Thank you the phone call. I will say this. And we don't know the saddest. Devante Smith in his Hammy. You can't whenever you have an injury. Like that. It's not like you'd be like, okay. It's always going to be a week. It's literally a day to day thing. The good thing is is this is no longer where you just have one. Julio Jones are one Calvin Ridley you've got rugs. You've got wattle. You've got Judy. You've got a litany of other different guys, including tight ends and Damian Harris guys that can catch the ball out of the backfield. So not too concerned about that matchup. I am concerned about the matchup for Alabama's offense of line which has been great this year and probably not giving enough credit against Brennan Foco and Rashard Lawrence. That's going to be a good one. Always good to hear from this, man. I gotta get them in before the break. Hello. I'm anne. Burns. And you gotta love it the bama's inspires day in the. Them. Like, you can walk. We may Nate him. We might need him. You know, he's got character. Steiner laugh. Burns this Dame is in LSU's defense's hands. And there's nothing the Obamas can do about it. You hear me? Peter burns. More damage. I'm an short and sweet. And then think I'd ever get out of it. I am this caller in less than a minute. But he was listened us when he's saying, and there is some truth to that. Right. LSU's defense has been solid. And here's the thing. The same thing that's helped Kentucky all year long. If this underdog chip on the shoulder type mentality is the same thing that LSU has been hearing. And it starts actually from the top notches at Ron. I think you're going to have to give some credit to Joe alita. Joel Leyva took a lot of hell when he hired does Ron because they're like, this guy's not going to be up to the task, whatever. And guess what? It's working out pretty well LSU fans have quieted down on that front. The other thing that no one's talked about when he went to bat for Christian Fulton when the NCAA said, no don't even bother. He's he's suspended. He's not coming back. No, Joel Eva says I'm not standing for that he went to bat form. And that's one of the reasons why. Yes, LSU does have a chance against Alabama. Big news out of ole miss in. Oxford NCWA has changed their punishment for the rebels. We'll talk to their athletic director Ross Bjork coming up a little bit later. Peter burns in on the Paul finebaum show.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried then patron Torri of college football lives. Here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. We're back at ridge shown arena day, two of the SEC basketball tournament a lot of big surprises so far and we have a game going on. Now. The crowd loitering outside Auburn, we'll be playing in the second game Arkansas and Florida right now, we have moved from the court. It's kind of hard you do his show courtside during a basketball game. So we're up here in the lobby and some of our best friends have joined us. May. Well, this is where we are. Right now, Florida has made short time of Arkansas. So the Gators desperately needing a win without one today. They would probably have been off the bubble. They're still more than likely in the tournament. But they'll take on tomorrow. Meanwhile, Billy Kennedy is still coaching. I'll tell you about running into him in the elevator this morning. He is currently the head coach she'll be that way at least for another night. But based on what he said to me today. I don't think he'll be around much longer. AM overcomes adversity in the first round. Each other like you said they like each other. And they've been consistent with the after the last month and a half. And when you do when you do things the right way and play the right way, and you play together good things happen. And I'm really proud like a set of can't can't be prouder anymore probably team than I've coached just teams into more adversity. And in the recent stuff is just makes it even more challenging. We'll Wade tells L LSU he should be allowed to coach. He released a statement today saying he asks university administrators to be reinstated. He added that. His attorney advised him not to meet with LSU officials. They answer questions about being caught on the FBI y or Ted LSU responded by saying wait has yet to deny any wrongdoing and will remain suspended until he meets with LSU officials. Meanwhile, every Johnson answered his critics this headline coming in the wake of his interview with us here yesterday, we asked Avery about his future about his commitment. His response made a lot of news. This is what it's all about. Every year deja vu. Last year took a Colin Sexton last second shot to beat am so Alabama could advance and make the NC double A tournament. They'll have to win tonight or they will not be in Florida was in a fairly similar situation. Florida probably in Alabama will not likely be even with a win today over on this. So that they would Witter that game takes on Kentucky tomorrow night. So a lot at stake Floridas first team out surviving the bubble. Most people think they very likely maybe in the tournament. But a lot of things are happening right now. But Alabama in dire straight Livingston Chapman. Will join us. He's SEC legend from the Gators. He played in the late eighties early nineties. We'll talk about the the Mississippi teams with Nick suss. Frank martin. He is scouting right now. Because Frank Martin has a double by into tomorrow. And Rainer saving. He'll join us talking about Avery Johnson. Suture Erwin Dudley. The SEC player of the year about eighteen years ago. He'll be with us. Angels ram speaker speaker from the St. Antoine Walker will drop by to preview tonight's games. And Brandon Marcello will give us his opinion after the Auburn game. That's where we are. Nice crowd has dropped by here. As again Arkansas is done they win one game. And then fall exceeds if they don't win they they play today for the first time they did not win last night because they didn't play but they lost today. And they're NCWA hopes are long gone to Gators survive. We will get your phone calls here at eight five five two four two seven to five star. With Gregg our good friend in Athens, Alabama, Greg. Thank you, very very much. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Paul thanks for taking my call. I thought the statement from coach will Wade was kind of ridiculous. And with everything that's going on. He stressed is constitutional right to remain silent. And I I would just think that the university is well within its rights suspend them until they find out what's going on. And part of that process is hearing from the guy who's on a federal wiretap. And until that happens. I don't see him. I don't see him ever coming back to customer LSU. It'd be honest with you. And I think the those fans who want him back deserve whatever carnage comes and results of all this happening. Yeah. You know, Greg. I don't wanna go constitutional lawyer here. But. You know, the constitution has nothing to do with why he has been suspended, and ultimately likely to be fired by LSU, the one thing he hasn't done, and you alluded do it. He has yet to say, I didn't do it. I mean, he's talking about your mumbo jumbo lawyer, and legal ease, and that's not gonna keep his job. He's not coming back to LSU. You know, the school can say we want him back. You're not both know that train has left the station. Yes, sir. You had his name is Dan Jackson, the attorney on a couple of days ago. Yeah. Don jackson. Don jackson. Yes. He he he was very telling in his critique of the whole situation, and you know, when he's more world versus the sports field than most attorneys are when he says that he wouldn't advise because the client to do that. You know, weight is just really lost any any ground that he had any ability to take the high ground and today would have been a perfect opportunity to put this all to rest, and he did not so. Face value. We have a cheater wanting his job back, and it's not going to have let me ask you this. I thought maybe Jay Bilas made the best point or most salient point of the week when when he has to LSU officials like what what were you what were you doing back in October when this story came out, and you went to will Wade, and he denied it all did you not do any independent? Investigation, and it doesn't appear they did very much. And it's at point. We'll Wade did what all people do they denied denied. And I and it's come back to haunt him. Now. I mean, there's nowhere for him to go. The best thing for him to do is shut up and try to avoid any more serious. Jeopardy in this federal trial. But there's just no way that that he's involved any longer with LSU, and I ran into some LSU play. I happen to be staying hotel where every SCC team is. So it's it's really good to pick up information. I was talking to Annella player today. I won't name him. And they seem pretty confident. I mean, they feel like they know what's going on there. They're still hopeful to get your smart knack for tomorrow. They feel good players are resilient as you know. Yes. The fans are right about one thing Paul. And that is that Joe alita has a lot to answer for regard to this. And he has been silent. Thank you so much. He does we'll we'll wait was his best hire at. LSU? Hey, thanks for the call. Do appreciate it. John is up next. John you're on the air from California gerrad had a very happy. The Gators won. They look really good today. Freshman took the challenge on and I'm very happy. But I heard you comment that we're still possibly on the bubble that what I heard from the team at the SEC network was that would probably in because of the because of the overall record and what we've done with LSU beat them. And then we almost beat them at home. So that that stands for a little bit. What do you think? Yeah. Listen, I am not a bubble expert, and nor would I ever wanna be one. It would be I came out. Imagine you're living in that bubble for four weeks. Every every every every March, but my best guess is that they're going to get in. They have they have a good resume and today was just an absolute must win. And I don't think they have to win another game. And quite frankly, they may win Amar. But yeah, I think. Yeah. But I think they're I think they're I think they're inside the tournament right now. All right. And in record the call about weight and his comments to the LSU president and director of athletics he has to show transparency. Paul any coach has a position responsibly. There has to be transparency. So I I agree with LSU and even better for us because it Gators might have to play again, I think they play again, don't they tomorrow? This the the sense here is that he's going to play. But. In fact, that haven't announced it yet is is interesting. Hey, thank you for the call. John really do appreciate it. We are live in Nashville of nice little crowd has engulfed us. We are between games Aubert about to go out on the court here in about thirty five minutes. We will continue to take your phone calls and welcome a number of guests to our location right here as we are in Nashville, Tennessee to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast -nology truth. Brought to you by DIKO. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor, what's Janet's bangs. Did she lose that? With a weed whacker? Oh and sent wait. No, no, no, no, no truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Janet, I think my phone was hacked or something Goco, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. The pride passion, then patron Torri of college football lives. Here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Livingston chapman. He's an SEC legend played eighty seven to ninety one a nineteen for both young people out there. Thanks for him. Too much. I I would I would think it's quite satisfying for you. Maybe even more for your family to be honored as a legend here. You're definite, correct. Are really appreciate that on. I really appreciate it. University of Florida. Nominate me to come here for the legends classic weekend. And speaking of the SEC tournament. You were wreck you've been recognized for a lot of reasons. But back back in the day. You you won't have particular tournament released had quite a tournament to say the least. We own it tournament. It's always a team for that. But you did up seventy points three. We I'm I'm doing the math on that. That's quite a few. Thank you. But like I say that year was we'll just told her team effort, and the SEC tournaments just say cumulation all the on the hall records things that we had, you know, did as a team interested because we we can sit here and talk about what you did. You don't seem like the kind of person that that that that dwells on the past. But I do think it's interesting as we share with the audience some of your stats. SEC champs in eighty eight eighty nine that the tournament MVP. I'm particularly stated in your message to young people that that they get hung up on all this stuff. But. You have to take that and make a life for yourself. And it seems like you've done quite well, thank thanks for saying that, you know, for me is it was more of the journey for me of just all in the hallway to get him in a poor. She won't be accolades at the end. But you know, that kind of comes and goes what really stays which is like what got you there in the guys they help you get there and that will last more than in any kind of startled. I mean, it's been nearly thirty years in and I'm sure there are times when you go. We're gonna dog. Oh, but but I I am interested though. Those those years that you had there engaged you grew up in Florida, you still live there. How indelible are they still in your life? That's not not the accomplishments. The the honors is we just talked about. But just they relationships and the bond. Always a school that I wanted to go to I signed with him always willing to go there for just just some underlying current with me. I just always felt that that was the perfect place for me. Of course, all athletes, you go through recruiting process. But it always everything always came back to your versus Florida then. And now it was a great experience in and even though my playing days over with I'm still a gated. So it was it was a one of the best decisions. I've made for me. I was interested in talking to Florida fans. This is a school very rich in basketball tradition on not long after you played the the Gators made the final four they made it countless time since winning two championships nearly winning a couple of other ones it's like it ebbs and flows. But, but how do you think Florida has been able to maintain that because it is not a natural basketball school? Great question. It was like that. When I when I was getting through incumbent in. But as you see always felt that it was. It could be the place for basketball as well. Of course has always been known for, you know, for the football, and of course, on desert deserving. So with that, but basketball is is it's great program rate facilities. It's an top of everything and all the categories that. I think that any school. That's even the basketball that they say the thing I've always admired about Florida, and in many, many visits there living, sit is it really doesn't seem to matter. What the sport is the expectations are pretty much the same. That is true. It's always. But just take a step back. There's no reason not for the expectations to be. Yeah. This a great school. Again, graceful racist these great coaches, so so just just look at look at all the different sports that does. Well, there again, though is just no reason why it shouldn't be. And and it's the reason why it it shouldn't even get a lot better. Let's talk about this this team that we just saw few minutes ago. Nice performance. David just team is better than his record. You have a little bit of time to reflect back. Let's start with coach white. What does he bring to the table? And what does he offered to players? With my take is and I never met him. But sometimes I watch I watched a few of the games. And and see some interviews that that he's spoken about. He seems like a player coach that means a lot that means on aspects that the players are really respect him. And he really cannot relate store my take on. He's a very account on Mugabe. He holds the team accountable. And he and he knows expectations that that the universe Florida works, and it seems like he understands the culture there, and that you know, he's relatively new there. But he understands what I see that what's expected of him to do at university with a mass mode. Polling. Let me say you said as a jumping off point to go back to your coach. I got the opportunity to know him vaguely. Okay. But Norman Sloan was a legendary coach hoop national. Champion at NC state, really coach one of the greatest basketball teams. Maybe of all time. Correct. Pulled off one of the most stunning upsets an inch AA basketball history beating UCLA. I could describe them. But I didn't play for my. Really interested. You would reflect back on on norm Sloan. Well, he had the nickname in normal. And basically that was totally true. But for me is like I said. Always wanted to go to your Florida at that time coleslaw was there at a university of Florida. So for me is already knew that he was going to be tough coach Morse. I went there. So it's like this. Nobody made you go to give us a Florida. That's why that's why I wanted to go. So that's just part of the probably the whole workman attitude on me going. They're just doing my job there. Yeah. He he's he's certainly. He's a fascinating figure because. I'll just give you from the distance. He he looked just downright miserable. All the time. Maybe was but he, but he was but he had quite a reputation as a coach. Well, I mean, he was the head coach at the university of Florida. So it is expectations there. Yeah. He wasn't. He wasn't as meals with now if we're going up five or six game winning streak. Okay. Now, he's he's probably mills. What? Now if he if he lost the ball game or win on the losing streak. Now. I mean, but every coaches that way, I'm interested in someone who left college in the nineties, what your thoughts are of the current state because it curse ain't of college basketball is is is in flux, you have the one in donors some schools. It's more pronounced Florida's not really necessarily had to deal with it as much but get the game is clearly different. Yes. It is. Well, I mean, even for me, it's just kinda hard to say because it's just different scenarios. Now, it's just a lot different from when I played we really did how to one in Duns that was very far very far few between that, but I don't know. I mean for me is just kind of wait and see what's. Whereas he really gonna go because sometimes you hear that there. Eventually they'll start, you know, maybe playing the players there's so many look gift Elise. Now where a high school the knock it bypass college now and and go play somewhere for year in the end of the draft. So it's just a whole new landscape. Now, the talent level is is is off the charts though. But I'm just for me as a basketball purist. I just don't want him to lose the skills because basically on the aspects is everybody's not gonna make some people need to go to college. And and get the skill sets up a little better. So I just from the parents get lost in the shuffle Livingston Chevy. -gratulations SEC legend, you seem like you're appreciative. But thank you. Can you can do without all the the retro? Yes. That is true. I get it. Thank you for coming by real enjoyed media. We are up against a break. Oh, a lot more to do here on the program. A number of guests will be dropping by. And your and your phone calls, then you can call us now. Eight five five four to seven to eight five listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. The fried passion than patrons re of college football lives. Here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. The Gators have done it. They beat Arkansas and their chances of getting to the big dance. Significantly better. Mike white after the game. Your defensive rebounding responsibilities versus these guys is really tested because sometimes heck you'll have Harrison rebounding or you'll sills offensively rebounding. So and then obviously with with big fella after the best bigs in the country and our bigs couldn't have done it on their own. You gotta do with five guys demands. Some you can take back to your team twice this year Arkansas it's been held under fifty five against Florida and against Florida. Let's take that back. So this is what Joey Joey L has to say right now has seventeen for Jackson for Lord up last four in with a win Alabama. I think it's self explanatory with Alabama has to do they have to win. Everybody else in good shape. So if you'd like to give us a ring give us a call now at eight five five two four to seven to eight five the second game about to get underway just to our left, and we'll certainly update you with a number of guests throughout the Auburn game. Let's get some calls going here. Clayton is in Mississippi. Thank you Clayton. Could after name you. We are doing great. Thank you. Yes. I want to talk about the trio of Korean Tari. Terrence davis. And devante Schuler. What do you think their chances are making it to the finals of the SEC tournament? I think it's going to be a challenge when you consider the bracket. I think that's I think that's a hard way to go. Do you think they'll get past Alabama? Maybe kentucky. I don't I don't think they're going to get right now. I don't think they would get past Kentucky. I right now they has has all MRs slight favourite over Alabama. I think we're going to know pretty quickly in that game. If you remember what Avery Johnson told us yesterday that that was their their tournament game. Last year was their best game of the year. They came in under similar circumstances. So I I you have to like on this a little bit in that game. They have some momentum going Alabama is the quintessential dangerous bear. But I would I would agree with you on that. But I think tomorrow night will be very difficult for all miss. I think or do you think will be the star for the beat Alabama and Kentucky. Hey, quite and thanks for the call. I really polished. Somebody is like moving a a van behind me. And I couldn't quite get your call. Get your your call. Nikki is up next. Though bother a go ahead. Well, I'm loud. There's how you doing? We're doing great, Nick. Look, I got one question by wonder they have to keep his job this year. But next year. Well, first of all, I don't think it's at simple because he's got about a about six or eight million dollar buyout. So even even with the loss tonight. It's not automatic that. He's going to get fired. I will tell you this though, I if he loses tonight, it looks bad the energy level for bringing him back is going to be pretty small. What about what do you think? Thank you gone. Be like you said it's going to be married small to keep him if they don't go. Hi, you know, they don't want if games tournament. I think as far they'll by my. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I I will tell you this. I was trying to give him an opportunity yesterday to state his case. I thought he came off very defensive. Little bit petty at times, I mean acting like first of all I mean, he said something about the attendants it tended to Alabama games has gone down dramatically over the last couple years. I wasn't challenged. I wasn't challenging him on. On working hard. I mean, he's he's paid three million dollars year you better work hard. The question is what does he do? What what is he doing what he's working? And I've heard speculation that he's he knows where he is. He's he's probably trying to get out of there as much as Alabama would like to get get him out of there. But a wind and. Would solve some of those wounds, and he could he could get a fresh fresh fresh reset tomorrow after tomorrow night. Oh, I want to reset kind Laker year for that. Don't think overall. Yeah. Thirty third game of the year. Pretty light to reset. You're absolutely right. That's all I got to say, I'll get I'll I'll talk to you tomorrow. Thanks. I mean, listen every Johnson's a good salesman. That's how he got the job. And that's how he was able to bring him. But, but you know for him to tell us yesterday got the youngest guard in the country. I don't care and you don't care. That's his decision to make. He's the one in charge of that program. If the kid was still young maybe you shouldn't have taken him. But he's trying to sell you on why Greg Byrne should keep him. Greg burns got some pressure on him to he's tried to hit a lot of people up for a lot of money to raise the raise funds at Alabama. And. Great burns, not gonna get any credit for what happens Nick Sabin football program, but he will be judged pretty carefully on what? And how he handles the basketball program. And he didn't hire a Johnson. It's worth remembering that? Jimmy is in Charleston. You are next up on the on the air. Go right ahead. Jimmy, hey, Paul longtime listener and the first time caller love you say, thank you very much about Frank Martin in the basketball program as I said, I listened all the time on the way home from work now. And I think it's been about two weeks. And there was a caller in that asked about Frank Martin. And as you guys discussed him, I got the feeling neither of you will really impressed with the direction of the program. And there was mentioned of the fact that will why do you only have a players, and I knew you're where all the injuries. They've had a couple of players who still have not been. You know declared eligible and stuff, and I didn't know if that was your full thoughts kinda short do you. Honestly believe it is having the wrong direction or as thank Martin. And the south Cal program just victims of some what this year. Yeah. Jimmy, let me clarify that. I'm glad you brought it up because I I am a big fan of Frank Martin. And we may as well other people. So yeah, I fully understand the circumstances. And. I did not intend. Maybe we were having a three way conversation and somebody said something, but I I like him very much. I think he he has been challenged this year. In fact, I thought he deserves some consideration for SEC coach of the year. I think he's done that good of a job. And I'm impressed with what he's done. Stances, and I feel like I know the game pretty well. I've been a high school coach for twenty something years and really really impressed with what he does with what he has. I think he's one of the coaches that gets the most out of what he has. He is a tough love kind of coach. And obviously he has to recruit that way. But as a game cock fan for life. I couldn't be more pleased with who are basketball coaches. Well, listen, we we are in agreement there. So I'm glad we got that cleared up. And even if we weren't in agreement, I would defer to your knowledge being high school coach. So I'm glad I'm glad we agree. Well, thank you very much, Paul. And it's been great talking to you. Finally. Thank you. Thank you, Jimmy great to hear from you. If you want to give us a ring pretty good time to do it between guests frame frame, art. And we'll join us here shortly the crowds has gone into watch basketball, which is why they're here. Was like a break. Eight five five two four to seventy eight five or live in Nashville who listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. But pride passion, then pageantry of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast or back to our show here in Nashville. We are taking your calls as basketball currently going on courtside. We're of course, in the mezzanine if you are just getting on with us first game today went to Arkansas Arkansas went down excuse me to Florida. So we'll update you on Missouri. In Auburn, they are in early in the first half, Missouri an Auburn locked in. But the big game. Of course, Florida beating Arkansas maybe inching up away from the bubble for the NCW selection. Let's get back to the calls at eight five to four to seven to eight five. And Mark is in Mississippi, Mark. Thank you. How you doing? Thank you. Yeah. Really what I wanted to talk to you about most thirty Gators. I wanted to see do being like college expert tell you you thought we was angered that we have to be LSU Tamar to definitely solidify. My opinion would be that you're in. I think today was enough. I think Florida has a good resume very competitive team. And I think that's really important when you look at the win at LSU, the close games with Tennessee and competitive games with Kentucky. That's what I I don't think. A lot of crazy things are going to happen from here on. But I think beating Arkansas was a big win. Frustrating year. I was just trying to see what you've thank you very much. Yeah. It has I agree. And I'm not sure this team has a long run in it. But getting in the tournament right now. It would be would be good. But to get back to the calls, and Bo is calling next Haibo? Welcome to the show. Thank your call. I want to thank the SEC for donating one hundred thousand dollars to the Lee county tornado victims that was very nice. I understand that they've done this before for disasters have occurred. And I got a question for you. If Alabama Winston I who who did a meet in the second round. Alabama would meet Kentucky tomorrow night at seven PM eastern time. So that's that's the bracket there in. It's not a it's not a great bracket, frankly, ole miss Kentucky. But that's where they are. You know? The good news. Is you win the game? Play kentucky. And if you'd be Kentucky punch ticket to the answer AA tournament that would be to to wins over Kentucky. So if some could argue maybe even a competitive with a competitive game. I don't think I could go that far. But some of it just depends on the on the on the bubble right now. I agree with Paul one. Last question. Have you got any updates on the Alabama football spring press? Nothing really extraordinary. We'll talk to or save and a little bit later. He he's been covering some of that. So we should have something new on that in the next hour and a half. But I haven't heard a whole lot from down there. Hey, thank you for the call. Do. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Great to have you. If you want to give us a ring, we're in a call segment right now, we have a couple more of those coming up here as we report to you live from national the phone number again is eight five five two four to seven to eight five J B is in Huntsville, and you are next up. All what's going on? How they're a talked to you before about Tiger Woods and asked if he'd win and you told me he would finish fifth. You remember talking about that? I do. Yes. Okay. I will get through it. I'm in Nashville, and we're gonna go watch Alabama play. Because also obviously asked about Alabama. Do we win tonight? Yes. Or no. I am inclined to say no be positive ball. Tell me tell me this. Why would you be positive with Alabama basketball right now? Okay. Yeah. You're right. It's kind of hard to find some positive. I guess it's because verify very very very, yeah. Now, listen. I first of all there are narrow upset there are narrow underdog they beat this team the last time around so we're not talking about a stunning upset here. I mean, they they probably should beat ole miss. But I'm just not crazy about what what I see the only the only thing that you could get on the other side of that is almost maybe a little flat. They don't have the same intense urgency that Alabama does. So that that is an advantage for Alabama. A and I got another one. So where are you at because we're going to we're about to leave where we were at old hickory somewhere. Nashville. And then where can we come to see you? I wanna say Hello. Yeah. We are today. Tomorrow yesterday where you're inside. We're trying to figure out where we are here. I think we're by section one. Oh, five one on the on the mezzanine level. Yeah. Right. We'll be there here shortly. And I can't wait to see a man. Thank you very much. Really great to have you on. Then I was about to go to my screen, and I just knocked it off. So i'm. Will is up next. Hey, we'll go right ahead. Really there. Go ahead. You're on the air. Long time. Then the time called go at all. I am doing great. Thank you very much. Well, I will concerned Alabama basketball team. I know countdown. But because they're gonna win is either way help them out to get into the big day. Yes. Wanna ask you? I mean, what do you? What do you think? Do you think capable? I believe that there'd be good. They would've stick together thing. Why thanks for the call. I we're having a little bit having a little bit of difficulty hearing you there. Listen. Alabama basketball has been Jekyll and Hyde all year, they have played well enough to beat Kentucky. Well enough to have a last second shot at beating. Tennessee on the road. They beat ole miss by double digits. So you cannot argue that they're bad team. But lately, they have played very sporadically. So it's hard to have a lot of confidence. We have a couple more hours to go. We appreciate you being a part of the show. We are coming back right after the two and listening to Paul finebaum show podcast.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried passion patterns re of college football leaves Keer. The Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast the second half of this show is live. We talked a lot about the will Wade situation in Baton Rouge where Joe alita was guest and hurled expletives the F word being one of them Saturday night as they were celebrating the SEC championship. We've had the Andre Baker on more guests, including our next guest who what's cliche. Our next guest. Does not need an introduction while I'm going to give one anyways. Only one of the great broadcasters in the history of the medium and someone we missed dearly here on this program. Let's welcome back to our program Brent Musburger from Vegas. Brent? Thank you, very very much. And I'll start by saying how are you? Great to have you on. Fister. Find bob. I have missed you. My good friend. Listen, we've been great as you know, I'm living out in Las Vegas working face in and as a radio broadcaster for the raiders very happy that they picked up Antonio Brown over the weekend. Maybe we'll have a little more excitement. You know what? I mean. My good friend. But involve I've been great. Yeah. Yeah. The the raiders have have upped their game a little bit with that. And another signing. I I would imagine last of fall was I mean, you've you've had some challenging games in your career. But that had to be a long long four or five months. Especially we had to go to London for a game. And the raiders got their butts kicked by Seattle, you go all the way across the pond for the west coast to get beat up. Yeah, you're right. But at least that Jon Gruden was a pleasure to work with Paul. I thoroughly enjoyed that. Mike Mayock has now signed on as the general manager. And that that was a very very strong move that they made over the weekend giving up a number one. Hopefully, they will reach into the SEC and use those three first round picks looking for somebody from perhaps some Alabama maybe even down lower. How good is running back Jacobs for you or that. I know he he he he was one of the bigger surprises over the last few years at Alabama's. Yeah. I mean, he he upstaged a lot of very better known more highly regarded running backs, but the grant I'm really interested because you left a couple years ago and. And some people wondered men what's going on. But it seemed like you caught the gambling wave just the right time. Did you not? Yeah. You know, we got lucky advice and Paul we we really didn't know for sure what the supreme court was going to do with the New Jersey appeal, and they ruled in favor of states rights, and as you know, from from watching it it has grown for men Disley over the months some of the states weighing in Mississippi amongst them down south. We check in down there with some of the casinos that of course, folks enjoyed betting whether it was Alabama or LA your home ever, they just they just enjoy taking a position. So the business has grown dramatically. I try to tell everybody, and I got some youngsters listening to you that listen carefully. It's not easy. You may think that you're gonna make a living doing this. But be careful because these numbers very tight bookmakers are very very smart. They're in business to make money. I'm recreation. Ever even tried to make a living off of it. And we have people who get into trouble because they they gambled too much. So you should always kinda give the warning out with it. But on the other hand, some people do it instead of crossword, and and it has grown, and and if you don't get yourself too, deeply involved too and over your head it can be it could be good for recreational purposes only. But I, you know, I always try to I try to warn people. I think that the I because you hear about these big that's better guys who bet hundreds of thousands of dollars on on games and outcomes of seasons and they hear all mad. I gotta get in there. And give me some of that. Listen these casinos. Don't get any smaller. I wanna make everybody aware of that here recreational better. Yeah. I was talking to Brenton all of a sudden, I didn't hear them. I don't know if it was the gambling conversation or somebody just pulled the plug, but we'll see if we can. Reconnect with the legendary Brent Musburger. Okay. Brian. I think we we have you back. Are you? Can you hear me? I did. I heard you a little bit. Okay. I. Brennan, I sound like a firebomb caller now to the host. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Hey, well, is that you ever really you? Brent? Of all I miss hearing you because you were among my favorite all time broadcasters, but what I really miss when you joined us on Friday afternoon, making fun of our callers that was always a a career highlight for me. Yeah. I really enjoy. I miss the especially during the during the football season. The I've said it to you. And I've said it to your passion, the passion of the fan base of the SEC. No, one comes close to it across the country much closer now to the Pac twelve and you wouldn't even know the seasons on sometimes the lack of passion. And I think it shows up with the scoreboard. Those SEC teams come through in the clutch. They're still the best conference in the country by far what I am happy about from far Paul is that the basketball part of the SEC has improved dramatically. You know, they're going to get what six seven teams into the NCAA. Tournament for sure and maybe even beyond that. And I'm so happy to see that because they were way down when I was doing the football in there. They hire some good coaches. And and they don't well. I you know, I I've listened to the tape. I haven't listened to the tape. I've read what the LSU coach discussed with the one agent. And you know, I'm sad about what happened with that program. He'd done a real good job as a coach. Obviously, the the wiretap caught him up in talking about something with somebody that he should not have been involved with under any circumstance. So I doubt that he's going to be coming back for basketball coach, but but beyond that the kids down there have done a good job. And I I hope they play well the SEC tournament in forward on into the NCAA. I am interested. Brent because I I've never done it. Although one of my cohorts here having had having courage just to go out there every year, but what is like, especially. During that first weekend of the college basketball tournament. Paul. I think it's the best time division Las Vegas. If you're a sports fan now the Super Bowl, stands alone. But that's just one game. Okay. And the first week of March madness when the ball goes up, there's a huge ovation all around town the different sports books. And and because there are so many people Paul come to town. They open up the ballrooms up on the second floor and the kids the adults gather in we have so many people come in from out of town. I tell everybody that if you like college basketball, and you like the tournament a once at least you should come out and be in Las Vegas for the opening weekend. I mean, it's just it's non stop and people have such a good time. They may friends that they that they keep for decades over the years. I think it is the the number one time for a sports fan to visit Las Vegas. The football season's great. I don't wanna take anything away. From it. But in terms of of an event that is a big party with people having a lot of fun. You cannot be March madness. It is the favourite of of the locals they love participating in it. And of course, we get so many guests from from out of town, Paul. So I I really those people who have told you that they've told you the right? They it is. It is a great time to come to lots of. Plus, our weather is pretty good. If you know what I mean? Yeah. No. I I I've been the Vegas a few times. And whether it's usually not an issue. It's been an issue pretty much everywhere else in the country, the last couple of months Brent just I am interested though, from from your standpoint, you're obviously very busy your with your with your network, and and and the raiders, but you walked away from from a career that that anyone in broadcasting would would die for is there anything about it that you miss or is that just. Another chapter of your life that you've moved on from. Oh, I I this some of the people you know, that that I dealt with regularly. You know, honestly, I always looked forward to the the Paul finebaum. Call on Friday. You know before game. I I missed that part of it. But in terms of action, I found it kind of interesting at this stage of my career to deal with one team as bad as the raiders were. But to be around about a weekly basis and to see what was going on. It was is that a dropping in out of the sky and having fans on both sides that you pulling for the other side everybody who caught like in Kennedy me on the raiders understood that we wanted the raiders to do. Well, it was it was kind of different stage. And then Michael gone who owns the southpointcasino out air legendary gambling family built this basically a million dollar studio in the south. Point to to do our visa and broadcasts out here. So you know, it just kept me very busy. I suppose the most important point is at visa was started by nephew Brian Musburger. And so it was a cancer work with the family. I'm a little bit closer to Montana where my voice both live so arly, then I can could get up there. When when I left ESPN, I had no idea I was going to be doing something like the raiders. I mean that that came completely out of the blue for me and has kept a very busy, and I suppose energized on the weekends. But when I miss most some of the friends that I met many many great friends at at ESPN through the years. I I've course started with ABC after I left CBS, and then they were sort of swallowed up by US PIN because Bob Eiger who runs. Disney's I'll why do I have to sports management teams when one could do the job and that has worked out. Okay. Well, I enjoyed opening up the SEC network, and I see that next year. They're going to open up and ECC network. Also and out here. The Pac twelve Paul made a tremendous mistake in not signing up with either ESPN are FOX and having them front their network. You can't you can't even catch the Pac twelve network on direct TV. I mean, goodness along or network is up on direct teas. But if they if they had used FOX or ESPN as front that would help them get up there. So, you know, I still pay close attention to the business. Love the business aspect of it. And I I see some of the analysis from time to time when they when they come to town. But I, but I've been so busy that I, you know, sitting around feel sorry for myself at all I mean, it was time. It was signed to move on and about, but I do miss I call from Mr. five on Friday, asking me. About the aggies Alabama. Britt. Listen, I it was it was one of the absolute honors of my career to to get to know you, and I don't want get sound like everyone else. But, but you you were and are larger than life, and we we hope to stay in touch with. But I'm so grateful and thankful that that you are doing great. And it sounds like you are literally having the time of your life. Absolutely. I mean, listen fault for excitement. You can't beat Las Vegas. Okay. I mean right now the the hockey team what they've accomplished Arlene, I go see a game occasionally lady Gaga was never particularly a fan. Now, she's got a show where she plays the piano and sings those old time jazz tunes. Can't wait to see. I mean, there's always something going on out here. And and that part of it or lead, it I- orlean, and I love, but anytime you want to check in my friend or anytime you wanna come out here and visit us for March bad. That's just let me know. I will. I will definitely I can't wait to see you and talk to you again. We'll have a great next couple of weeks. We'll be exciting. And from all of us here. We are deeply indebted to you. And appreciate you making time for today. Age. I thanks Paul take care. Thank you. Brian Brian Musburger, one of a kind so grateful for his time this afternoon, we're up against a break. More of your phone calls. More guests to come on a pretty busy Monday for coming right down to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The pride passion, then patterns re of college football lives. Here is the Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. Yep. Is in Ohio, Jeff, go right ahead. Hey, how you doing today? We're doing great, Jeff. Thank you for calling. I've got about thirty things that I wanted to touch on kind of jump over quickly. I was Iran day highest state of Ohio State fan. This woman. How you see hits us for Georgia's just failed Cynthia transferred over there and. He think he'll eat out Tate Martell this year. You know, I I think more did Mortell leave. Yeah. I thought Martell transferred down to Miami. Everybody's just moving around this year. Yeah. I think he's gonna well. Jeff. I mean, everything I've heard about him is positive. I thought he did a really good job last year during the three games where he took over for urban. I I would expect them to make a serious play. I I don't think anything's going to change by the way came out today that urban Meyer is going to work for FOX. He is going to be on their pre-game college football show, which will go head to head with college game day. So I know that that's what everyone in America will be thinking about on Saturday morning wake up and look at that. Cheerful mug of urban Meyer. Wiley is in South Carolina. Hello wiley. Go right ahead. Hey, buddy, just wanted to tell you go game cars, we love your show. They can Carolina and Frank Martin. Did it such a great job as you're getting eleven win? So we love having Chris Sylvia's done such a great job as four center, and we get an AJ Lawson back for the tournament. I'm so proud of these guys this year. I think we can do a little bit of damage in this. He's hermit if we get hot on defense, especially gotta get a little bit better on defense, man. Just wanted to thoughts on the South Korea, by the way. I mean, certainly getting the double by. It's a great spot to be in. Yeah, he'll need some wins like three, but I give Franken a lot of credit to to get to that point. I think he's a fantastic coach he just had a slow start to the season, which will probably cost him and NCWA birth. Thank you for the call. Frank is in Indiana, you're on the Air Guard head Frank. Hey, Paul how you doing? Thanks for having me on. Thank you this couple of things here. You know, this LSU recruitment thing we're leaning toward this being. Devante smart that they were talking about. But I was reading an article by Sheldon miracles from the advocate that said that not as reach recruitment came down to two schools. Interesting. Interestingly it was LSU and AirAsia. Wow. What a what? Oh that until I read that. No. I don't think I knew that either. You know, those are the two schools that recruiting recruited him. And and the two coaches that are being subpoenaed, you know, by the FBI, and I agree with what you said earlier about this is some fourteen year old kid picked them up. This is the FBI that has among taping. Come off like like defense lawyer. I mean, the the the I can be aggressive and over the top. And it's been proven time and time again that the they're not always truthful just because they're the FBI. But in this case, I'm going to believe the wiretap Adly, the white cap, also and also, you know, be NCWA athletes. They could adapt to rule that if the school is found, you know, to be inviolate of a rule, then they should be pool from the NCWA for this year. Yeah. Yeah. This way. I mean, just with the FBI having wiretaps and everything they not allow. Somebody else's NPWS. I think at this point. We don't really know how this is going to turn out. It's possible. I think it's unlikely, but it's still possible that if more information comes out that LSU may cut its losses and say, you know, what we're going to make a change. We're going to self imposed. I mean, I think the timing of it is so tight, but I don't think anything is off the board yet. Yeah. I think Ellie Ellie, but one it should self owes. If they had any integrity. Though is whether it it it's what I mean, getting rid of will Wade was the first move. But it's a big step to go from here to there. But but I clearly understand your point. We am is in Maryland and William go right ahead. Mary we're William. Hello, Paul Maryville. Not maryland. Yeah. You do couple points on the FBI. And we'll wait number one. We're the tape. Come from. I suspect that it probably was leaked by the FBI, and it's probably very real and very legitimate. And as you said, it's not some kids pay, you know, the audience for the FBI to wiretap somewhat. Are they need to do? Well, I gotta get a warrant and they got to have probable cause. I got it through a whole lot of hoops. And yeah, this everyone is just putting a Cup it on the bottom at the end of your phone. I mean, that's right. This is serious stuff. And the other thing is that. I mean, I had a federal judge kill me one time in Arizona, the FBI with the biggest leakers in the world. And the reason why is that oftentimes if agents investigating things would leak things to the media to keep their investigations alive to make sure that the folks above them in the food chain didn't stall their investigations exactly it, you know, we don't know where it gave up. But there's another question here too, Paul. And that's where the money come from. I mean, I don't I suspect it we'll wait wouldn't use his money. Now are there in in Louisiana that you know, that have provided this money that are complicit with him. And what are they doing now for damage control or they concern he is going to you know, I it is going to turn. On them. I mean, I I'm curious that you have made fun a little bit back in the fall about you, buddy. James Carville, you haven't heard from him lately about that. You know, you're you're not getting your time. Carver beg your pardon. Neighbors you call Carvel. I'm sure he'll blame you from the SEC office. But you you you remember the the famous closed of it when we in. It'll Edwin area words didn't nineteen eighty four but losing lexin Lucy. And you know, I just think he got trace the money where the money come from where we're we're, you know, who's he protecting, and where's that trail going to lead, and it could lead to some very ugly places for a lot of folks. Yeah, right right now. And I've said it time and time again, I mean, wh what has LSU done in terms of due diligence from the moment. They I heard about this last October. You know who knows? I mean, they obviously haven't done enough, you know, and you know, again who knows? Unless they they couldn't get anywhere. And they knew this that they they knew there would be a day of reckoning. There was another case not that far far down the road where I asked him one. Why is the president and the supporting the coach they said, well, they know it's going to come around. Eventually, they're just the teams winning. They're just staying out of the way not to get hit by all the bullets. Hoping hoping it goes away on another note. I want to address Hollywood like in and UT for second. Okay. You know, this whole thing of loyalty to the Holly. I think it's been discussed ad nauseam. And the fact that she did, you know, succeed pet pet summit and she's been given her seven years, and I think if Holly loved the program as much as we all think she does and has enough self-awareness she will step aside gracefully and not forcing the only thing. I would argue Syria right now. I don't think I think if they because they're on the bubble. I'm sure she doesn't want to do anything tip the balance to be getting to the tomatoes after the end of the season. But I hope that's the way it plays out. I think everyone does her support level is is pretty low. William thank you. We're up against the break. We still have ninety minutes to go here on a Monday afternoon. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. But pride passion, then patron tree of college. Football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast continue with more. Call. Jim is up next in Louisiana. Hello, jim. Thanks for the call. Welcome to the show. Oh, could you? Tell me the power of non rain and more praying and a f-. Tournament. Jim. I don't know the answer. We were hoping to know that today. And I don't think we do know that yet. I think it's still being determined. Thank you for the call. Do. Appreciate it mos- in Texas. You're on the air. Hey, moe. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call this time expedite through one really say what you do quick story. I used to live in the Pacific northwest and being out there. You're so used to give me through sports. Our thanks very much. Right. That means a great deal. Yeah. Pre-state it. Oh, I'm LSU fan of Louis born and raised Louisiana. And I actually like we'll wait. I like how I saw the program going history. Wrecks in my question is and this will probably be I is there any possibility that they could keep will wait and punish him in any way that they need to do whatever sanctions happened happened. But they LSU could actually still keep him on staff. He you see that. Being a possibility. I mean. I know coaches get second chance. Yeah. He here's the problem me. This is not a personal indiscretion. What? If what turns out on that tape to be true. And that opens up a another avenue, then what you're talking about. Then are serious NC double A violations, which could which could force the school to declare the or vacate games that that's Mara was in. So I I don't think we know the answer to that. I mean, I I would my grass my guess is. No, I don't think that's going to happen. But but I will say this. I know his lawyers. I mean, they're major goal right now would be to to attack the credibility in the veracity of these tapes, I've seen it done before where you can you can play a tape and convince a jury that that wasn't me that will be very difficult in this case because of the FBI, and it's and so far he has not denied he's on that. All he said that they were more to the story. So I think the schools in a very very a very awkward situation to bring him back. Now, I I will quote what Scott rabbi said here earlier, he said, it's not out of the question. I I don't have any independent knowledge. So I'm just giving you a guess. Well, I was just thinking that you know, coaches get sick and chances all the time with the same program. No. That's why. Yeah. You you. You look at a person might lose Pearl. I mean, he's still coaching and in a power five combat. Let me let me remind you something here. Bruce pearl. Didn't do what right. No. I was listening here. Bruce parole. Lied to the NC double A about a barbecue at his house of which he was inner -taining a recruit. Now, Bruce Pearl had it when when they called in Bruce said, Bruce, did you have a barbecue last Friday night, and you entertain to recruit if he had said, yes, I did. And I'm terribly sorry about it. He may have been they may have lost the player, and he would have been suspended for three games. He wouldn't have lost three years of his career. Okay. I understand that what he was accused of doing was not that big a deal. I mean, it was a mistake. You can get past that. I think the issue is whether you can get over. What will Wade is allegedly and I'll use that work. And I don't know. I don't have to take it in front of me with he's allegedly saying on that tape. And so include AA is not involved as of yet not yet. But I can guarantee you there in court that they'll be in court today. He appears right. All right. And that was my question. I just thought I don't know. I wanna be. I don't wanna be Scrooge here. I like, well, no, I I like will wait to I think he is universally light. By by everyone at LSU. But LSU has to be more concerned about the damage moving forward to the university. Then then then we'll we'll right because there could be more that they could hit really badly Gherardi. And if they can, you know, I'm sure they're talking right now going, okay. If we get rid of them now, and we throw ourselves on the mercy of the court can this all be over with a couple of weeks. Get a new coach in here and continue the arc or are. We about to go back to where we came from. So oh, here's the other part. So if they do that, let's say they say, okay, we need to get on the front of this which they are. And cut ties with him. The next coach is still going to have to deal with the ramifications. That's the problem, and there's there's a legal element to this as well. Is you know, you just can't decide on on a whim to fire your coach, right, right? That's what I was. Yeah. I mean. I think the most I'm not trying to sound like a lawyer here. But I think the most interesting part of this case MO is why did will Wade's attorney last Friday morning advise him not to speak to his bosses. I mean, do you know how tough that is for new or may not too? I mean, my boss has called me in today. And I say, you know, what guys I'm not talking to you. I'm more. I thought about it. Why would he just even you know? However, you do off the record whether or not, but because you can't go off the record at this point talking about a legal proceeding. And I think I think the only answer is they told him not to discuss it with his superiors because anything he said was going to cry him, criminally. Him his I mean. Or put them in danger of being able to collect on his contract, or there are two different elements here. Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much for taking the bottom line is the university of this point. They're worried about themselves. They're not worried about we'll wait. They're worried about. Okay. What about the integrity the school? We're gonna we're gonna be paying for this for a long time. And Secondly, how do we fire the guy with 'cause meaning they don't have to pay them a dime. Ask you freeze about that. We'll take a break. More of your phone calls. We'll talk to our legal expert at the top of the hour. Someone who may actually know what he's talking about. Unlike you're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. But pride passion, then patterns re of college. Football leaves Keer. The Paul finebaum show our three podcast. We're back a lot of other stories going on. But this seems to be the the prevailing story today. Eddie is in Atlanta. Go right ahead. Eddie. Thank you. Thank you. Out of pledge for a week or so, and I've heard this thing about but coaching LSU what in and Adele says the going on at LA, I'll hang up and listen to your explanation because I don't think that's a fair question. I realized people are not watching and listening to every it came out. We could go on third last Thursday that we'll wait we knew he was he'd been subpoenaed to testify at the trial in New York in April. It came out in a report by Pat, forty pizza Alamo. And and Dan Wetzel that he is on an FBI wiretap freely discussing an offer to essentially by player. To to a middleman and that player happens to be on his team right now. And that's where they are the school the next day suspended him and since then the team has won the SEC championship on on Saturday night while they were all the game was going on. And while they were cutting down the banners and the net they're cutting down the nets the fans hurled expletives at the athletic director who by the way had. I don't wanna say he had nothing to do with this decision. But he he was not the major reason why we'll Wade was suspended. And it's it's unknown. Really where this goes from here. Clearly, this isn't NCWA case from a legal standpoint, it's hard to know, what type of liability or culpability will wait house, but he's certainly not in great shape. Thanks for the call. Do appreciate it. Good. Great to have you on already is in Louisville. Hello, Artie nicety to call. Hey. So I already be on your show again, Paul great to have you on. I have three things to talk about. We'll talk about Tyler hero in a minute nasty tournament. But you hit on the LSU problem. Exactly. Right. I think that the school is looking out for their self right now, and they should be. Well, they have to be already one person is not bigger than the than the university. And they they got a chance to probably lose that SEC championship after the NCWA investigates. It are. That they do you're absolutely right about that. And we'll talk about our buddy again, Tyler hero. How do you do you like this week? Well, I think he's been quite a hero all year long already. He's been phenomenal. Thank you very much before seeing them up in national. Dan is in Mazury, you're on the air. Hey, dan. Dan, you there? Now, you're not Chris is up next in Louisville. Chris welcome to the program. Hey, Paul either. So I got a couple of questions. My in one is unless you I mean seriously does he fan? But if this is John Calipari, you know, where this is going. They're gonna throw him. I mean, I went down or Kentucky being, but we're gonna be like you need to get out. So my question, is wise LSU not just instantly find this guy. Well, well, let me try to explain here. Here's why I think I don't know. But. He has a contract, and I'm sure to legally deal with his contract had to suspend him indefinitely when he violated some causes of the contract, which meant they wanted to talk to him. I think they're concerned about firing him yet. Do I think that's where it's going? Yeah. I do, but you know, everything has a process, and I know that sounds like a lot of gobbly Gook. But. They have to get. Many factors. They can and could could this come at a worse time. No absolutely not down to the most important week of the year. Because I mean if this was before the season, you could make the change the right now, you're you're you're you're fighting for the national championship. I mean, you're in your legitimately in the running. And you're trying to weigh the the better interest of the players of the school versus the liability. And I don't think it's an easy decision to make. Well, the whole NCA thing. I mean, you know, you got to suspend him. And you gotta do have as you fire him. Chris tell me this is that is that is that not meaning that you think he was in the wrong. And then that puts everything that's happened. This year in jeopardy, doesn't it? But you. I mean once face the facts, I mean you on the SEC outright. But is that going to hold up? There's no no probably not. But but I do think you have to be cautious. And does I mean, I think the real important date is next Sunday me, you're either you're either going to the tournament or you're not in if you. In at some point. You have to you have to make that determination. I mean, don't if you're LSU you gotta do two things one you either bit no-fault, right? And you continue to have been a fall employee yourself from the tournament. Exactly. I think you're right about that. And if you go to the if you go to I mean, there are a lot of intermediaries here. Whether they say there are not. And I mean, you you need some guidance from somebody up there saying, okay as best we know if you fire the coach if you declare you're not playing in the tournament. I think we're done or if you want to go ahead and keep playing the key is the are these players right now to smart didn't play Saturday. Let's say LSU doesn't play again till Friday. So they do have a little bit of time. We will be in Nashville Wednesday in case you were wondering. 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