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Hour 1: 4/15/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 1: 4/15/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The pride passion and pageantry of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast do as we reach you on the fifteenth of April middle of the month tax day. Hope all his well wherever you are extrordinary twenty four hours from Tiger Woods yesterday to tragedy today. We'll get to all of that. As we continue. What you're looking right now at a shot. Of one of the most iconic symbols of religion and history in the world, the Notre Dame cathedral in Paris a burning right now. And there's virtually nothing that can be done as I know all of you have been following that across the day. But we'll also watch it as. Pay to start with the subject abject to tragedy. But we will it's been an exciting weekend in until today with so many. Amazing stories from tiger to Edey games across the board. We begin with some headlines right now. And John Michie. I think that's how to pronounce it can't tell you. He's a house hold word. But he was the star of the day game. Five or sections one hundred thirty three yards Nick Sabin responding in Tuscaloosa. I'm only saying this high because you all have a tendency to make somebody a star. And when you do that, you create a problem for us as coaches, do you understand that? So can we just make sure we're just like it is what it is? And let's don't go down that road after one sprang game. That makes sense to anybody. Besides me. I mean, you got four coaches in the room. Now, you can talk to them about it. I mean have a coaching meeting with them. And they'll tell you what it is how it is. I don't even know what he was talking about. But I did like the sport coat and the the bright tie Nick Sabin health issues. We'll talk about that in just a moment. Speaking of health issues. He seems like he's come. Okay, come two years ago. It was done today. He's a masters champion and the talk of the sports world and the world for that matter tiger yesterday at Augusta burning up the backside. And certainly. Winning his fifteenth major championship. His fifth. Green jacket and just as you are sitting down to watch game of thrones. This came down. LSU reinstated its basketball coach will Wade. Will Wade said and I quote, I regret to circumstances that presented me for meeting with the university sooner. I wish I could have addressed these issues when the university I requested a meeting, and I'm grateful. They gave me the opportunity to do. So last week. I completely understand that without my denying or explaining the media reports accusing me of wrongdoing LSU was left with no choice. But to suspend me until I was willing and able to meet with them any other course of action would have put this program in the university at risk Joe Aleve of the director, the university regrets that coach way did not choose to fulfil his obligations to LSU when he was I asked to do. So. However, the seriousness of the allegations and coach Wade's prior refusal to refute them could not be ignored without exposing the university and the basketball program to great risk protecting LSU. And preserving our integrity must always be our first priority coach Wade's explanations and clarifications offered during the meeting absent actual evidence of misconduct. Satisfy his contractual obligation to LSU. I really don't even know where to start there. So I'm gonna sit tight while we gather more information, and maybe a couple of experts to try to figure out what's going on in Baton Rouge. But we've I'd you to join us. At eight five five two four to seven to eight five. If you have any idea there was some other spring games. Of course, the one that got the most attention was L LSU, but Bama to chunk of low not a great game. He was here the other day with us pretty upbeat. But the performance of the quarterbacks in mass was. Unusually average which said that the defense won the day. Maoz on mom after two freshman battled and some others. But it looks like it's going to be two freshman. Meanwhile guarantee. No look good much of that game Saturday night. Jeremy Pruitt, Mike. And the Volvo is trying to make a comeback. This is what it looks like today. Dan, Murphy, he'll talk about a former SEC quarterback Justin fields. How he performed it? The buckeyes spring game Glendale bow on the morass in the swamp otherwise known as LSU athletics. And Todd Blackledge was in Tuscaloosa will get his first hand report on what he saw Saturday, but your cost today five to four to seven to five look forward to talking to all of you. We begin with Dave and Baton Rouge. Good afternoon. Dave, hey, I told you two weeks ago. This was going to happen. You did. Crazy crazy crazy, but it makes my heart warm warm, especially the way Dickie v act in the way, Jay Bilas acted. And and everything, you know, it just goes to show you if you're not from south, Louisiana. You just don't understand. Well, let me Dave. I am not from south Louisiana, and I don't understand. So I'm gonna sit back here. And allow you to explain to all the naysayers what what went down over the weekend. And why LSU basketball is in good shape? Under will way. I'm gonna tell you what went down in Baton Rouge was Joe alita. And I do think net axe to fall in Baton Rouge is going to be on him. Why do you say it's worse than the Duke the Duke Pichu ration- as far as I'm concerned. Well, explain it to us because I listen, I I live this every day. I don't have a clue what happened. So you tell me. Well, I just think that the powers to be decided when they when he got in there, and he got with an attorney that would let him go in and talk and wasn't afraid of NCAA that they realized this was a bunch of malarkey. Now, the the the big question to me is going to be whether the judge ruled Friday, whether he's going to testify in the federal case or not. But from what I'm reading and hearing down here is that he's not even going to testify that the judge is going to kick it, and he's not even going to have to testify in the trial. And if that happens, I think we're back to business as usual. I know hold on. Let me ask you about businesses usual, if even if we'll way doesn't testify, and if the judge does whatever you say he is going to do how to you. How do you? Square. Those comments. That we've all read about. I don't have a clue at this point. All and I'm going to be brutally honest with you. I until there's more information that surfaces about the the Tate. I don't have a clear I'm asking how do you think this makes the LSU basketball program? Look right now, I think it makes LSU look like LSE's. Oh, always look, you know, and and and nobody really understands the politics of it t- t you or down here. But Paul you lived in New Orleans. This is business as usual for us. I'm not saying that it's right. I'm not saying that that it makes any sense. But it's is the way that it is. And I do believe that we're going to get new letting director out of his whole, listen, I I don't I don't care Joel libra has a job or not it really doesn't matter to me one bit. And based on what I hear a lot of people down there. Don't want him to have a job at that. But you have to separate Joa leva. From the will Wade situation whether Joe livas up for the Joan of arc award or he's a scoundrel. It's still has nothing to do with. Whether we'll Wade was on that tape trying to buy a player. I can't speak for the man, I can't speak for anything. But I heard them tape just like everybody else, but you've had him in the player go through investigations already and nothing came of it. Well, no, Dave, listen, the conversation with will Wade was fairly limiting. And you know, I thought it was interesting. The Joe liba used the word legal. He is we're obliging. He is he is obese his legal responsibility. I mean, first of all that doesn't tell us very much. And I don't know. So I mean, listen your head of me on the game. I'm I'm anxious and I'm eager to find out more. But thank you, very very much for the call. Do appreciate it. Let's continue at eight five five two four to seven to eight five in Eugene is up next in Georgia. You, gene? Oh, I'm enjoying your program. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you. I just wanted to call in because. We were happy to see tiger come back to his greatness yesterday. In Augusta and. The event that really prompted my call today was the fact that my are broken because I'm looking at the flames coming from Notre Dame cathedral in Paris. And we are all set to welcome. The Notre Dame football team to Athens in this come about season and try to repay the hospitality that Notre Dame shape. The Mouloud faithful on we went up to south bend Indiana season before they asked, and this is just a heartbreaking event vicious all hope that. Yeah. I agree with you. Then the the noted I'm cathedrals one of the chili. Great symbols of of of the past and in this country. I don't know how to describe it. Because I think it was built. I mean a thousand years ago, and I it's just. There's there's no explanation for it. I guess there's no there's this. There's really no word. There are no words to to to to describe it. And I know that's not exactly how we do it here, by the way, it was it was built in eleven sixty three just to put some context to the tragedy that we're all watching and witnessing right now. We're up against a break more to come. Appreciate you. Joining us today. Five to four two seven two eight five we are back with more wouldn't tracking the domestic money. You come to find them hiding under wardrobes next to love songs to suddenly scarring off what's utterly fascinating about the dust bunny is that although they'll not actually sensual creatures when they the Kyko not only saves people money, but also has a ninety seven percents customer satisfaction rating. It's obvious to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Oh, no. It's the dust bunnies. Only natural Prentice on the lung dust on his run along. But pride passion and pageantry of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast by back. Casey. Our resident golf expert in New Jersey is up next. What are you Casey? First condolences to the Notre Dame fedral their power s- getting to the good story yesterday turn the page. You know, I've been doing this for forty years of my life. And besides Tom Watson at the age of fifty nine in two thousand nine coming within one putt of winning the British Open age fifty nine the fact that this guy did what he did yesterday in one in ninety seven and came back twenty two years later after scandal. Four surgeries ranked eight hundred and twenty one in the world only three and a half years ago. Had a hard time picking up his kids two and a half years ago. Couldn't get out of a car from what's reported two and a half years ago comes back last year after the chipping yips. And became the best Chipper on a tour last year by the stats one to torch hippy chick. Almost won the British Open. And he goes out there yesterday, the age of forty two and beats the field of which most of them are fifteen twenty years younger than him in their prime. And let's just say tighter is just past his prime obviously with injuries. So the reality is what we saw yesterday in golf is unprecedented. It's great for the sport. He draws is to the TV for sure. And I know you're a golfer. I know John Hayes golfer. I'm sure you guys thought it was one of the most improbable winds we've ever seen watching golf beside nineteen eighty six of course. And there's a few others in their Ryder Cup. You're coming back above. But let's face it. What you saw yesterday. And and I think Nick Faldo, you know, who's not a big tiger guy. Even admitted it the greatest message he's ever seen. So from a golf professional standpoint what we saw yesterday, surely amazing the fact that he, you know, on twelve after watching Molinari make a mistake which Molinari never does kept hits in the water. He hits it thirty feet and Serna. Green two-putts thirty thirteen thirty fifteen and we all know what he did at sixteen with the eight iron tube out two and a half feet. And like I said three years ago. He's on the couch watching the Gulf watching Jordan Spieth win and areas yesterday in the red shirt, the intimidation factor was there. There's no question about it. You look at Molinari be mixed turn with the lead. And he proceeds would make double at KC. Yeah. And I realize I mean, this isn't some, you know, bum off the street playing Augusta for the first time I've been there many times, but but anyone's ever played in that tournament Molinari had how do you even attempt what he did with that pin where it is? And I I heard what he said. But you knew the wind was a factor. Why why? And he said I just needed another yard knows in the bunker will come on. You don't take that chance with the to show? There's only one way to below the tournament. And I it's not long, and it's not left. It's exactly where he hit it. Yeah. Knowing there say that is. Is I think he completely miss hit the golf shot because the ball never cleared the yellow line now. I'm even more amazed by yeah. I mean, it had one forty one to cover that that covered at bunker online with the flag and those guys get one forty one Paul and that's the difference that discipline. They get one forty one cat go. He wants to go right at it mistake Molinari. You know, I don't know if he went right out. And I think he had a poor shot reminiscent to speak three years ago when he to win the water. It's a pressure situation. Listen, I don't wanna like it can happen. But I know one thing up studied nNcholas, and I've studied tiger in the one thing they always think about I mean, they go through their motion. But they also in the in the one crevice or their their brain. They they say let me take away this possibility. Yup. Well, that's the experience. No question about it. You know, you don't win eighteen majors for Jack and fifteen for him shooting flags in majors. They just don't do it. So that's the difference. Like, I said the intimidation factor. And Molinari had the honour there, which actually help woods, you know, voluntary hits that ball ten feet. It'd be interesting to see where I agree with that. That's a that's it was it was a disadvantage. But hey, thank you very much. Casey, great report. Great analysis. The other big story will Wade Dale and Baton Rouge, man. I wish we would wish this was Dale Brown at a no, it's not they'll isn't bad rather next. You know, Paul. We are great. Thank you. Doing Dallas is right now and watching and not tell you what friend just really disappointed in LSU. I mean, I live right down the road from there. And just never LSE's always had integrity and character two years. And we'll Wade I mean. Yeah. To me, I know the facts aren't in. But they still let him go. He should have showed up. I I really don't care. Mr Paul, what lawyers say, let's is integrity and character. She, you know, really, I it seems like a went out and hired a lawyer who who found some language in this contract that allowed him to keep his job from a legally standpoint. But I it's hard to. I can't find anything that you've said that I don't agree with. I mean, I'm I'm. If people can celebrate all the one and there for you if you want to but the university looks terrible today. Yeah. It's it's a it's a cloud, and it's always going to be there. I'll promise you, and I don't do this. But I'm gonna tell you Mr Paul that if they had it losing season he would have been done gone. And that right there were compromising. What does I tell my son my two year old and my twenty euros? And what does that what does that tell the young people? I don't know. The one thing we don't know. And I'm I'm really feel badly for what you're going through. I we don't know all the facts. But if if the facts were so wrong, then why did it take until Friday for there to be a meeting? Yeah. I just they're just compromising. Yeah. Mr Paul, and I we're here or disappointed. You know, you might hear some pro will a because a win especially students. They sometimes you win. But other people I'm fifty five that grew up LSU, and and just very, and and that's all got his say on receipts you and I don't watch much TV at all. Well, it's an audio. And a great job you stay in touch. We're thinking of you. And let's talk soon. Yeah. Yes, sir. Thank you from great. Good stuff. We'll take a break more on. We'll wait. That is certainly a. A perplexing development. But then against LSU and. Joel levers your athletic director. You don't really know what you're going to get. But it won't be predictable. We'll take a short break. Eight five to four to seven to eight five. A lot of guests coming up shortly. But pride passion and Patrie of college. Football leaves Keer. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Back to Ronnie in New Orleans. Ronnie go right ahead. Oh called last week. And I told you with we'll wait he was an FBI informant. They finally came to make that public or not public, but voyeurs explained LSU and he's got his job back. Well, you explained let's say let's say everything you've said is correct. You still haven't explained to us. How will Wade became an FBI informant? When he got in trouble with the visa USA, some kind of arrangement with them that oh this them. And now, I I must have missed that story. What happened VCU to get? We'll wait and trouble. I mean, I've heard rumors. I haven't heard anything substantive. Well, I don't know either. I mean, this is what you know, the source told me, but you gotta admit every everything fits with that storyline. I mean, it's partly because the leave is selling after this job. And and now it's come to fruition that he's got a job that I mean, what what would get him his job back other than something that doesn't meet the I about this. Well, I know when you when you go along with me for a second here. So let's say on we'll wage attorney. I tell I tell leave and king Alexander, listen. Here's what happened. My guy will Wade was an FBI informant and king Alexander asked me why did he become an FBI informant? I said well got in trouble. He's he got in trouble doing what? So right, right. Then you have these red flares going off? So he got in trouble doing something to fairy us at the. A hugh. That's certainly positive today. Disqualify you from from remaining as a head coach. But the, but the reason. We don't know the fact that I mean, I I don't know the facts of what you're telling me, but he's got his job at. So why would they be? Let's toss second. He has his job back today. Does any is there anyone in L A that he's going to have his job long term? I think there's more to come out to this that that has been so to you this is obviously something going on other than we've been led to believe that does an excerpt of a tape that he is said to be offering a bribe to some player in his family, right that that didn't happen. And no one no one that. I I've ever heard of has the tape. It's the both to be a media from ESPN and other. I'll listen Yahoo. That this is a leisurely what was said on the space conversation. And no one's ever. I mean, have you heard that you heard have not of a wishing where where within a week of him? Supposedly. I mean, it's all coming down to whether he appears in New Yorker not at that trial. Correct. And now there's some question of whether he's going to testify o b because his testimony is now compromised by this situation. Maybe that's what that's what I've been told. And listen everything sent this story. I mean, there are a cab drivers in New Orleans who know more than I do about this right now. Because I was I was applying common sense. And common sense told me he wouldn't have his job much longer. But commonsense. You would certainly think not. I mean, he given giving those facts if the facts were true that he's heard saying this on a telephone conversation, right, obviously, obviously that that would jeopardize your job. But what are the things? That's interesting is the young man they were talking about Giovane smart. He's superficially Bennett for one game. Then all of a sudden he's back. So somebody had to know something because an investigation doesn't take one day. So obviously somebody knew something was amiss to let device marks come back and play in the team. What do you feel about that? Right now, you're you're you're you're the leader in the clubhouse rining because you told me something the other day, and as implausible as it sounded at least part of which he said has come to fruition. So I'm going to sit back, and listen and gather as much information as I can. And then go beat my head against the wall. Because that's how I feel about. This case Lee is up next in Seattle. Hello lee. Paul the I think the word that should be focused on until Aleve. A statement is integrity. You know, kind of. No, no matter what you go with that. I I have really hard time believing that he's just completely an because of an informant so integrity should never come out of his mouth and anybody ever ask. Why they're continuing problems in any sports, the college basketball or football because everybody gets away with what they're doing somehow or another. I mean, what prevents a player from Keating? They don't they don't punish him. They punish the tips that have nothing to do with. You know, once I wanna know about is I want to I'm a coke, Tim Brando from from last night where I will start believing these people down there, that's will way that's his attorney. That's Joe alita when they quit hiding behind statements. And they meet the media and take questions and don't run away because until then it's all a bunch of garbage. Oh, I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm going to stay it anytime soon or any of us. There's just such a cloak and dagger about all of the things that go on in college sports, you know, especially the all sports. But anyway, that was whereas thanks so much. Appreciate mad is in San Antonio. What do you got Matt contact by spring football game fall? But I wanted to talk about the thing of burning down Notre Dame. All it makes you really sad to see the P three form. And at this point. I it would behoove you to read up on on the the history of the Notre Dame cathedral. It took about two hundred two hundred some odd years to build it has been at the epicentre of European and world history since then so I would I would spend some time on that. Matt. I liked what I own springs Bafokeng phone. Okay. I like detached they take your saying in the secondary is got a really better this year, JIMBO Fisher last year, we pay mice Jekyll and Hyde. But I think this year that's going to be a strengh for us. Not a weakness the inaugurate. I I mentioned this again, I I really feel good. I you you may have been head of the parade again. But I feel good about what I saw on Friday night. Thank you for the call. Greg is in Alabama your next step. They Paul thanks for taking my call. Thank you the. A couple of weeks ago you had a older gentleman. Call you and tell you in his opinion, the real reason for them firing. We'll wait, and that was because of boosters who had undue influence, you know, somewhere to that in Auburn. And I think he's right. I don't think we'll wait was an informant. He's not smart enough to be one. And this is simply them wanting short term gain, regardless of the long term costs. Would you agree? I would totally agree. This was this one. I I will be surprised if we'll weights coaching on the sidelines next year. Yes, this this makes no sense on any logical level. So you have to think about it illogically. And even if they think well, he's going to we're going to find out more during the trial. So we can get rid of them. Then you could have gotten rid of them. Now, simply for not coming to talk. And you tell me the first how is will Wade going to recruit with this hanging over his head? He's not going to be able to. Yeah. I mean, I I mean realistically, are you going to be who are you going to beat when because at some point? We'll Wade is going to have to answer. He's going to have to answer questions at a young man's living room. Isn't he? He is. And he's not gonna have the answers, and he's not going to be willing to answer. I mean, if he says, well, everything's gonna be okay, and the father or the mother or the grandmother sitting there going well, coach, wait, let me ask you this. You wouldn't talk to your own bosses. Why am I supposed to believe anything? I mean, anything you tell me right now than it's going to be okay. Wh why did it take you forty five days to talk to your bosses? Exactly. Why was everything? Okay. In this interview. That's all it was why couldn't you send this, you know, month ago when you had the league, Greg. It's like they met a weight, and he finally found an attorney that understood his contract he met the threshold of the contract, which means I met with my bosses within a certain period of time. And Joe alita took the express lane by say, okay? Everything's good for now. Let's get to the next and perhaps knowing that there is another shoe to drop. I mean, this this all sounds like legal gymnastics to me. It is legal gymnastics. But Jolie was going to score is double zero on this because he is totally inept. He's hitched his self to the wrong wagon for the last time. And this is gonna really set back not only basketball, but at yellow shoe for a long time when this all pits the fan, and it's going to sooner than people realize great to hear from you. Greg were up against the break. More to come. We'll get some perspective from Glenn Gilboa, nobody better than him to break through the swamp and tell us what's really going on down there on the by you more of your phone calls after this. But pride passion and pageantry of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast hair is in New Orleans, Harry good afternoon to you. I wasn't gonna call today. But this will this coach way thing has been a little intrigued so to speak, but. The only person to spend the sense to me. But the whole thing came up as you, and you know, maybe if I see a couple of questions, maybe you can help me out. Have you ever heard of anybody at willingly went to the FBI and offer to testify or help them in any way? For for no reason at all. No. I mean, listen if you know anything, and I have friends who worked for the and you'd probably do as well. But no-one willingly helps the FBI especially on a wiretap unless there is some something in it for them, usually I mean, I I would say ninety eight percent of people who are wiretapped are doing it because they have no other choice. Exactly. And the last time a group of people came to the FBI and had no business even going through the FBI was when Jim garrison case daughter on garrison, you know, then then you had every vote and and psychopath in. Orleans going off testimony to the FBI to this the garrison. But this is not the garrison case. His. He was a former district attorney in New Orleans who big. I just think that that that there is some some some substance to to to to coach weight and what he's doing what he may have done. And and until I is perfectly clear. You know, bad review coach ways, I don't think we'll be coaching LSU in the beginning of next season. And I think you know, we ought to just wait and see. So you know, the facts are gonna come out. And I think we ought to take that approach as opposed to. It's one thing when people call and give their opinions as I'm doing now, but at the call up and try to sell you some story, and then when you get to the point of what is your story, and they don't have one. Then we go and beyond opinions in, you know, a just don't wanna hand anybody. Try to sell you some foolish. We have to. Wait. Don't you agree? Paul. Wait, totally totally Harry. Thank you very much. Dan is in Louisiana, and you are next out, Dan. Hey, Paul, Paul. I'm Harry didn't know if I was going to call in today, and I wouldn't go and talk about this. But you know, LSU Strutton with disaster again. And I mean, I grew up in ways, Anna pool and put the Tigers the saints thirty forty years of misery. And you know, as soon as I thought I was going to get a little reprieve. Here we go again Well, I listen to decision is up to Joe Aleve. How about explaining the decision, Mr. liba? Well, give us something other than legal mumbo jumbo MU Pol. You know, every time I try to make sense of it. It seems like they're returning to a Cajun just, you know, take the shotgun in the woods and see if the game or no coming gets you. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean. If Leyva had issued a statement saying, we'll waiters are basketball coach, we have investigated thoroughly. There's not one scintilla of evidence to support the claims we had a misunderstanding about his contract. But he is now our coach, and we'll be our coach for the next however, many years, and we're gonna add two more years on his contract. I didn't hear any of that last night. Did you know and? Unlike Harry, I mean, why she the bleeding? Why why this had done make any sense to me? And sometimes you can tell them the timing of something nine o'clock on a Sunday night. When the biggest story of of the entire year has been Tiger Woods trying to slip that one in. Like, no one would notice. Wow. Well, everybody in the weeds on notice it and everybody in the United States that lives in sports. Wow. Well, thank you very much. Okay. Thank you. Again. We have a lot to do in some of you may have just gotten in or flipped us on the story about we'll wait continues to perplex a lot of people. We have shared with you. The statements still trying to get some more information from LSU they're offering nothing more than the statements from last night. We'll Wade has been on this program numerous times, maybe he'll come on. And explain anyone wanna bet on that one. We will talk to Glenn Guilbeault a little bit later on. We'll also get into some of the spring games over the weekend, including Justin fields from Georgia now in Ohio State Buckeye, and what happened at Alabama the offense looked pretty bad. So that's where we are here. One hour in on a Monday afternoon. Your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five and we have a law. Way to go before we say good night here on a Monday. We're coming right back. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast.

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Hour 3: 4/4/19

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Hour 3: 4/4/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion, then patterns re of college football lives here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast new our has dawned here and some breaking news from Louisiana. We're about to get to it though. We gave you the the headline of Ross Dellinger's latest in Sports Illustrated, and we want to welcome into Ross right now because this is a according to him fairly dramatic shift. Ross always great to have you on. We we we talked a little bit about your tweet. We we've already your story, but it's a it's a complicated situation that has been going on now for nearly a month in Baton Rouge. We'll take it from the top. What is going on down there? Well, yeah. Just to I guess you could say to to bits of new information kind of emerged relaxed day or so number one. We'll wait avenue attorney and turning Stephen Thompson who might not be familiar to your listeners, but his other clients are very familiar at all of Bruce Pearl in Shawn Miller, both kind of caught in this deal similar to will Wade situation. So that's the first bit of news. The second bid is that Stephen Thompson, just as he did with boost Pearl eventually, and as he did with showing Miller, I think is agreeing working towards a meeting with his client will wait LSU. So we'll ways last attorney kinda honestly shut the door on LSU. And in that led obviously suspension we're now under. I'm now understanding that Stephen is pushing toward a meeting. So now that doesn't mean everything, you know, will gonna be reinstated. I think he's got to cooperate. And as you know fall, this is not just in LSU investigation. It's an NCAA investigation to in the NCAA as LSU said on record is going to be involved at every single energy. They do as we all know NCAA investigations drag out. So it's not something that's going to be quick. But it is a positive Steph in a long process here. It is possible positive Rossmo. But let me ask you. I mean is it too late? I don't think so in it's funny 'cause they all if you last week, and and you asked me if it will wait, whatever, you know, be be LSU would come back to the coach again. And I said, you know, I feel like relationship is irreparable. And I did I felt like that in and I still you know, way kind of feel like that. And I see coming from with that question. You know, these two entities have kinda loud. Not. I don't wanna say grenades that each other. But they kinda called out what another in the media will wait with a statement a couple of weeks ago and LSU kinda gave like an ultimatum to them in public and the media. So it's been weird. It is it is a bizarre situation. But I didn't just pay. We'll wait changing attorneys, and that seems to be part of the difference here. But it should be noted. You know at LSU administrators have wanted to meet where we'll wait for for twenty eight days. And they have wanted to meet with them. They have I don't wanna say bag, but they they really have pushed to meet with him. And they've tried to get him to understand his former attorneys to understand how important it was just to come in and meet and it took a it took a lawyer change. I guess by will to to get this gone. But it's it's obviously a long way from being resolved. Let's go beyond that nugget in your story, especially concerning a lot of the emails of potential other coaches. I know it's a long story. But would you mind highlighting some of the other nuggets? Because there were there were plenty to go around Ross. Yeah. Yeah. We did a just a, you know, old fashioned public records of quest for emails full from to LSU's, president director, Joe Leyva, president f king Alexander in in the board of supervisors got got, you know, most of them were angry fans, you know, disgruntled fan threatening or either planning to pull their financial support and less. We'll wait was is reinstated. A lot of demanding that Joe Aleve enough. King step down a lot of the same things. We saw in that Kennedy game on on on television. You know, just an Email form. But one Email struck me as. Really interesting fall. And it was an Email from an agent or from a sports agency that represents Mike Davis. The former Indian head basketball coach she's now at Detroit mercy, and he it was an Email to Joe leaving verge ause berry the associated who does a lot of hiring, and it expressed my Davis interesting replacing real weighed in the Email came ninety minutes. Well way suspension was announced. I couldn't help. But do the same thing. You just did when that came across. And I got that in my inbox earlier this week. Hey, Asian man. They don't mess around. They don't waste time. No. I mean, they all line is. I mean, at least what the body be cold. But but my Davis considering I mean, he's had quite a path through college basketball. So I don't blame him for wanting that job. Well, let's let's try to chisel all this down. And it's not easy. And I realized you set a lot already if you if you look at the story quickly, you tend to maybe believe that there's a resolution not far around the corner. But but realistically, what do you expect to happen next? Well, I mean, they're gonna meet in a wish I knew a time line for that. But I do not. And it sounds like it is going to be soon with a matter of days, maybe even hours, so they're gonna meet, and that's it's just the first step in in a long process. So I mean, it could be it could be weeks. You know, one thing is, you know, devante smart when the LSU guard when he was withheld from play for an investigation to look into things with him. It lasted a week that was an expedited deal in a little more narrowed focus than we'll wait investigation would entail. So if you look at that and that was a week and it happened during the season expedited. This thing we will could last several weeks. You know, it could in in which would needs to be said here, and what I've written in the story. A couple of times it is imperative that that he fully cooperate, you know, with with the NCAA LSU win. He comes in to meet, you know, it's just like somebody told me earlier today. Yeah. He walks in the door. All the sudden, you know, we're going to reinstate him kind of thing. He's got to cooperate. It involves documents. Tons of interviews all that stuff. So we're we're always off. I think but it certainly is an initial step and in maybe him returning. Ross final question assuming they do me. And with his new attorney whose Dell with some difficult clients in the past in terms of what they were facing. How do you expect or what do you expect? We'll wait to say to them when they ask him about what's on those wiretaps. Boy. Yeah. I wish I knew that answer that that's kind of the million dollar question. What what is he going to say? You know, I'll tell you. He's got a he's got an attorney that is well versed in answering those type of questions, right? I mean, showing Miller was in a similar deal and Bruce pearly was in not as much the center of the deal. No, his assistance were more involved. But Stephen Thompson has a a lot of experience in handling those types of questions, and I'm sure right now as we speak there is communication and hasn't been communication between Steven tell them in a we'll wait about how to handle those type of questions, but I don't know what he's going to say. Because certainly the transcript is damning. And you know, I think that's a big reason why up until now who you know, his previous attorney had had demanded that he not. Go in in talk. But that's certainly not with that. Put one thing in the store. I haven't mentioned on here fall is that you know. And I thought the kind of NCA expert at in quote him in that story. But I kinda wrote some things he told me NCA investigation expert of we'll wait continued to hold out in not speak. He could be he could be hit with a an ethical conduct and failure to cooperate with an investigation. And we all we all know what what that brings. That's the dreaded Joe 'cause so there was impetus for him to get any hit going in. And looks like you know, action is actions starting the ball's rolling. Great stuff. Always a always fun to to not not fun, always informative. I should say rod maybe fund for someone to catch up with you. Great story. And sl, you can read it on dot com, and we will talk again, very soon. Thank you very much Ross. No problem prompting. Yeah. Listen. You can go out and hire new attorneys every week. But are you rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic or you making significant change? That is the question. We will try to answer that in in the next hour and forty five minutes a little bit of news. But I would say just an opinion here. Ross is more knowledgeable than I am. But he civil long way from being reinstated. I think we'll take a break. More of your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Well, we welcome you back. And while we sit here in studio. They are having a party in college station, Texas, where the official introductory press conference for buzz Williams is currently going on we've been watching a couple of clips of it in his looks like a big time deal, and we will head out there in just a few minutes. Let's go to Dave next in Baton Rouge. Hello, dave. Hey, paul. How are you? We are doing. Well. Thank you. Listen. I wanted to talk to you about wield weighed in oh, you spent some time in New Orleans, and, you know, Louisiana runs a like, no other place in. That's true. Here's the deal that none of the national media, including your sale has brought up, and you know, I'm not going to get into your LSU bias today. I have a lot of respect for you. But there's no doubt. But you're not a big LS. She fan compared to some of the other schools and their CC. But I'm gonna leave that alone today. And we'll have that argument another day. But what they don't what the national media doesn't understand down. Here is tiger athletic foundation has gotten bobbed in this. And a couple of the big boosters with tigr athletic foundation has basically said we won't we'll wait. Our coach you got you governor of a state Elise, Anna John bale Edward running for reelection right now. And they're fighting empowered from washed. So he needs all the money. He can get his hands on. Unfortunately, the people with the money are telling me that they won't we'll wait as our basketball coach. And that's why you haven't seen as much as EFC Kane Joe Aleve or would like to make a move on him. They haven't been able to make a move on. And and. This call is so scary. I believe every word of it. Well, and you know, I mean, I'm I'm a hard LS. She fan, you know, my purse member was with my dad and his arm. You know, watching LSU football in the late sixties? So you know, we were born and bred from the beginning down here to to to bleed purple and and go, but the the bottom line up the bottom line of all the is the other thing that I think that yelled made a mistake in the national media own is the fact that nobody has said, listen, we wait is not being called by the by the FBI to to to be on their side in this trial. He is working for the defendant. And well they made a mistake with him. And they didn't in open is they told him when he came in to meet with the school president, and they have let director. That the NCAA was going to be in the ring with him. And the worst thing he could have done is winning there and been on the record with the NCAA, and then had the government put him in jail for perjury. Now, you know that there's. Let me jump in here because we we have to go to the press conference. But, but I think you're making a lot of sense. Whether you think I'm objective or not I think you're you're telling the truth, and and and yours is the first explanation. I have heard to this moment, and I understand politics and Louisiana it's pretty thick. But we'll call you back. I I'll tell you this day. He may not be done. According to the politics of Louisiana. But there may be another side of this that if Lisi wants a short term solution than than all the power to. And they did the same thing, by the way with less miles. The governor got involved. This legislature got involved with us miles kept his job, and it was an unmitigated disaster. Thanks for the call. Before you go. The man who got less miles out of there is a same man. Who won't we'll is coach. Okay. Thank you for the call. But that one man is not going to have the final word in this. I don't care. I mean, Louisiana politics as bad as maybe worse than anyone else. But if that's the way university is run by some body in a smoke filled room. We got serious problems in this country. Let's go to a place that doesn't have any problems. They got everything working in concert. College station, Texas is where we are currently heading where they are introducing buzz Williams as we speak to an assemblage of people. This is why we're here aggies. Please welcome. The new head coach of the fight in Texas, aggies men basketball team, buzz Williams. Probably need to use this. If I use that I'll be more uncomfortable than all ready. Am. I'm going gonna handle all of this perfectly. But if you'll just give me a couple of seconds to get going once, I get going. I'll be okay. I never thought this would happen. And so it's a lot of emotion, and it should not be about me. And so I wanna make sure that as my brain's going to million miles an hour that I make sure that I'm saying the right thing with the right tone of voice. So I apologize. It early on. I'm a little anxious before I go to fast, obviously, wanna think chancellor I wanna thank president Yang, especially when I think Mr. Woodward. This has happened really fast. And it was more than a dream come through. And so for their support and belief in how we were going to go about doing things on and off the floor, very, very thankful. The next thing that I wanted to say is I think you probably saw it as I was walking out if you know me or even have a feel for what I'm about my family is most important to me, my wife, and I are both from Texas. Our two oldest children. Howdy. So it's working now. Thanks turning it on. If you know anything about me, my family is most important, I'm very thankful for their support change is hard. They've been incredibly supportive from the beginning. Our youngest son was born in college station. You guys. Remember, I can tell some of you know, some of you weren't born. But AC hit that about right there. And the night that Mason was born. I was in college station. I wasn't at the game and Acie law Mr. shot at Oklahoma state from the same spot Ross to win. So it's a good and bad makes was born in. The you got beat. Don't want to go any. This one. Those of you listening on radio we're gonna take a short break and come back with more of the program. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Buzz Williams, introductory press. Conferencing college station, and he started off pretty well by saying Howdy after that you cannot do any wrong as the Texas AM head basketball coach a lot of energy out there. And we certainly look forward to talking to him very very soon. And we'll talk to you right now at eight five five to four to seven to eight five a busy show with all the latest news coming out of Baton Rouge, and so much more. Let's get some reaction to buzz. Matt would you would you make out of you new basketball coach, I like him ball gets beat anytime say name that you cheer and current players like what he had to say, Paul. I agree. I thought it was great. In. I know you're right now he turned her criticize her player effect. You're saying him like that. Did you can build around five star player in add to that by south player in actually make his team more better than what is your thoughts on that Paul? Well, listen, I thought it was a phenomenal higher. I was I was tore in mad because I really had great admiration for Billy Kennedy, but change change to be made. And it was and they went out and got the best available coach. Thank you. Did. It was a good coach. He's a good person. I mean like you said if you think. In to where he gets over that hump. And sometimes does it always saying is, okay. If I tell you Paul. Sometimes not what you don't mean. Right now for you. Don't me lately. The world. Unfortunately. Being much. And I think the way it goes in sports in general. In I want doing three more questions as day, Paul go right ahead. Madeleine how you think this basketball team would do under both Liam is first year. And my second question if he does get this five star player, you think he can dote around that five star player Paul unless there questions you do you think Trayvon Williams that can be a higher draft pick in the Kentucky running back. Good question. I don't know the answer the second part. But I'll see if we can get some draft analysis on that. Thank you for the call. I think he's going to do very, well, listen, he he needs to find some more players out there. But I like his energy. I think he's going to be a great recruiter. So thank you for the call. Really do appreciate that. Let's continue with more calls in T-Bone is of next. Hello t-bone. Hello, paul. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you, just a quick question with all this stuff going on down in LSU way. I'm just curious. Do you think Greg? Thank the SEC Commissioner might put some pressure on with the NCAA with their athletic director to get that guy outta there. Because it's going to be embarrassing. I think to this. They seem to keep them. Listen, I thought of all the information we've gotten I thought that last caller knew exactly what he was talking about. It sounds like someone outside of the administration is calling the shots the people with the money. They like we'll way, but they I I will say this. If they disregard facts and ethics and integrity and push will wait into that position again against the wishes of the administration, it will blow up in their face, and it will come back and just destroy that program because you can't do that. That's not how that's not how institutions of higher learning should be run. I know this admission scandal is shining a very ugly light the Commissioner has very little jurisdiction. He can advise and consent. But he cannot tell university what they can. And can't do. Yeah. Totally agree. I can say it. I think it the bad on the SEC if somehow you I think it will look I still don't believe that. We'll wait is going to be the coach in spite of what I heard today from from Ross Dellinger commonsense is indicating the me that. They will have a very I mean changing an attorney doesn't mean one thing. It just means that he is going to go to the university at at their most vulnerable place and the most vulnerable position will wait as had so far is forget forget, what's on the transcript is the fact that he wouldn't cooperate. And if you grow there, and now cooperate the the what are you going to say are you going to answer their questions when they ask you point blank. What your intent was what what those wiretaps mean? Or you're going to go in there and stonewall and let your attorney do all the talking that's not going to satisfy anything. He may. I think this thing has been dumbed down there's a lot more to this than we'll Wade's refusal to talk to his bosses. I've never heard a more perplexing situation. In terms of what what I think is reality. And what some people are propagating it to be. Thank you for the call Tracy is in north caroli-. Allina you're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey, paul. Thanks, take my call. I've been listening and watching us six of nineties where I'll let Anniston Alabama. Well, thank you very much. I love your show watch it just about every single day. Anyway, I two things. So the Minneapolis the twin cities I was born and raised in the south than five states in the south never lived further than where I am now. But in north west corner of North Carolina, but I have been a Minneapolis. Saint Paul Pete times from business, and it is pretty cool city. They have some great steakhouses, whether it's horrible painted up there in the wintertime, but it is pretty cool. It's playing for big city. And I think Auburn fans are gonna love it. Yeah. I have I have a close friend who's from there. And everytime. I joke about it. I get I get a stinging Email, but I I believe it it it it someplace that a lot of us from the south are not familiar with. But I appreciate you saying that I really appreciate you being around the show for as long as you have makes me feel like. We haven't run everyone off yet. Well, I figured I'd try to call their best ball season because I've never can't get through during football season. I'm evolves fan. Never lived in Tennessee, then everywhere else in the southeast. But I've only got you covered there. Yeah. I know I know at one other quick thing you talking about the accidents earlier and the different dialects from the Carolinas stuff. I mean, it's different all over. You got what you call down east, which sounds almost like English accent? And then you've got the Piedmont area up here in the mouth. So North Carolina. See I don't know how to despite it. But yeah, I I the the accent gets me the most is which one is it the Piedmont or any. Okay. It's just that slight little twang at the end. It is Virginia related. I think we we live in highpoint area right about eight or nine years it, which is the Piedmont area, right? Yeah. It's a different. It's so many. I mean, the Virginia accents is to Ludo more refined. I think with all due respect to North Carolina. I agree. I agree with Paul take up much of your time. Thank you very much taking my call as Peggy twenty some odd years person. I've got through Tracy really appreciate that. And listen, I'm sure a lot of people are saying you have a lot of room to talk. You've you you were born in Tennessee live most of your life in Alabama. So you're it's easy for me to be language expert. Still. It's still bugs me though. Anyway. We are coming back. Who knows what's going to happen on this program moving forward? We're taking your or is it year year film calls here up here in the Piedmont at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast as we watched these bourbon garden, Catholic Catholic without studying it, you notice it moves like and also tool it's inanimate and utterly without brain function. But despite that when it got known his about how gyco not only saves people money, but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer on second thoughts. Maybe don't garden gnomes to carefully people might talk. What an afternoon it has been. Let's keep going with more phone calls. We have a couple of guests remaining right now. Greg in Athens. Ala Bama is up next. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you. I thought the Ross Dellinger interview the two did was pretty I opening there still this narrative down there. And I and I and I'm gonna send for them that he is part of the local media, even though he may write for a national group that still has his foot in the door of him coming back, and I heard the caller from Louisiana talks about the smoke filled room. And as true that's been. And of course, you know, Louisiana elected he longed for the Senate anything can happen. But until we see something that tells us, otherwise that's concrete. You know, you have to take things in a logical fashion, and the logic would dictate that regardless of who he hires as an attorney he is going to be on the ah shortly heading out the door. So I'm just you know. The the narrative that he's putting out might be new. But the end result is probably going to be the same, Greg. I I don't we were together. I think when the story broke. So we had a lot of conversation about it back back a few weeks ago. And I don't know anyone in the industry outside of that area code who believes he's coming back. Yeah. So it's it's it's for the moment. It's it's much ado about nothing. And you know, yesterday seemed to be a lot of Angus going on, you know, you had ten for my my hometown talking about looking at is and seeing things and the only thing you can see in. Someone's is is fear. And I didn't see that NATO them's or or Nate or votes is. And of course, Bama Nick was stuttering. Oh, cool in you have that one trick pony up in Columbus, Ohio. You know, when he calls he talks about the same thing every time, and what it really is is a manifestation of his own fear because he has yet to move on from the grief. He suffered when Purdue lay the whoop whoop in autumn. And that was in a regular season. And sure was you know, Ohio states last entry into the college football playoffs was a goose egg against Clemson. So he needs to stick to a bingo at the lady of perpetual, sorrow and eating as Meatloaf, and he'll be all right? So thank you one last thing. So I heard someone talk about Sankey and and his involvement or what what he could do all I knowing what I know of Greg Sankey, and based on just going off what he's put out there in the things he reads, if coach of Pearl had lied to him like he did the Mike slide. There's no way that he would have been back into the SEC. Yeah. But the situation is is is complicated. But but I will tell you. I think there are. There. There is a lot of politics going on. And I don't know Joel Leyva well enough to offer this opinion concrete Lee, Greg, Greg. But I, but I think he's playing a game with everyone down there. He knows what the end result is going to be. He's just taking his time. Because he he he also knows the fat cats still are hung up on on. We'll wait. I think they will their love for Woolwich will diminish one some of the facts come out, and those facts are coming out very soon. Thank you very much for the call coach is up next in Morristown, Tennessee, right out side of Knoxville. Thanks for taking my call, Paul. Thank you as a Senator might say like the yield the rest of my time to creek. But okay. Always enjoy his call. He's such a he's such a good caller, his great. I agree with you know, what Greg said to and and just real briefly, I know mentioned this the last time I called her time for this is posturing LSU. There's no way we'll wait can come back and and brewster's always involved at every university. We all knew that. However, the facts come out like you just mentioned and they're bad. I don't think anybody wants to see the program put on two or year herbaceous, they're gonna change their mind. And legally as soon as that comes up, and they and they get from that option. So that's going to change. But on another matter real quick who's your vote for SEC d of the year. Right now are like Scott Woodward from Texas AM, well that certainly there see is simply probably the strongest coaches in the nation right now, I think that the remaining openings it's very important for the Arkansas the vanderbilts and so forth, and even it's going to be LSU also to to really step up to the plate. And unfortunately, it's going to pressure on eighties to probably overpay. But they're going to have to to keep up with the the rest part about being a at AM though, is that is not a concern. And in a but it shouldn't be a concern anywhere for that matter. This is a rich league. And I will say that the SEC network has put tens of millions of dollars into everyone's pockets that they didn't have previously. So the money is there, and there's no excuse to the economical as some ADC have been in the in. Usually not very good results. But. I think that pressure is is enormous on on hundred year. Check right now at Arkansas, you'll get to get the right coach because he didn't higher firing Mike Anderson was not a clear cut decision. Nor was it at Vanderbilt. And when you fire someone who is not Billy Kennedy was a little closer call. I I would have struggled to fire him. But I also know now as we all do the buzz Williams was writing waiting around the corner. But it doesn't get anyone's waiting around the corner at Arkansas or Vanderbilt, and that's what's strange about. You know, the whole the old adage is you really never fire. Someone who's decent unless you've got somebody locked up and locked up poodle and. Coach locked up either. When they no I don't think I don't think they did Johnson. No. I didn't. I don't think they did. Thanks for taking my call was a pleasure talking to you. Thank you. My pleasure. Joseph is up next in people. Hey, michelle. Hey there. And grade all doing well, this one is I just like your last caller said the bright coaches that were getting running on basketball. I mean that is a great Howard today. I think would buzz we know what you mean that was pretty stellar in. The course, you know, Kermit and putting on. Extinction today with more money, but and been Hal at Mississippi State. I mean, let's see is stepping up pretty big time on coaches and our basketball miss what the best all around. How we? We. Ago Joseph from Fox Sports who said he thinks he SEC coaches are the best in the country and. I think you have to wait to to see who ends up in these other three slots, but buzz Williams is an elevator. I mean, that's that elevates the overall because I mean, he is really well thought of coming from the ACC. Oh, definitely. Yes. Are totally believe that. I'll really appreciate it hip. It's that he so, you know, we had a little while from his press conference. That was fantastic that it was really I mean excited and glad to be back in Texas. I mean, go his sons were born there and college station. So he has granted or phone and took over. He he wasn't standing behind that thing. That's the fact it's. But also man no getting off basketball. I second. But I want to ask you what is going on with moments baseball team? I mean, you know, there's me after taking the series against number eight, Arkansas. And then all of a sudden how they lose that game of the nodding issue in. I mean, it was terrible for me. What can we do? What is this relation their media? Yeah. It was. It was about to get into an area that I'm not an expert in. But but I would say from my experience in watching college baseball don't pay too much attention to those mid week games. We'll say land here. We'll point out say not offer all Saturday, but they have a big series with Florida this weekend. I think that's a fat. Yes. But don't listen. I remember I remember I think it was the LSU a couple years ago. They were they were rated run the coach out of town in April, and they ended up playing for the college World Series championship. Well. I think we're gonna be all right. But anyway, give me a call, and I'm taking my call. And that's a baseball fan. They're worried about a Tuesday night loss. I like that though almost baseball is a serious thing. As is Mississippi say baseball as LSU. Anyway, I think you Arkansas you're you get the thing another hour to go.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Fried pack, and then patron tree of college football lives here. This is the Paul finebaum show our four podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're with us. One more hour to go, the we'll wait situation certainly been the biggest topic. We've got some other stories as well, including quite a few spring games to put a cap Horon. Let's get back to the calls and hig is up next. Hello, paul. Hey, they're really enjoy your show. Thank our recently completed reading your book and really enjoyed it. I'll think. My question relates to your book d- plan on doing a sequel. And if so what timeframe that book be in the in the works. Well, hang up. So I you're gonna resides. It's a great question. And usually when someone does a book, they always do a sequel. I don't think that will be me. I really am. Glad we did that book couple years ago, but it wasn't experience that's fairly exhausting and in terms of start to finish. And I really at this point. I'm interested in doing this and everything else. I do it ESPN as opposed to writing another book. So that's short answer. People have changed their mind in the past. I don't think I will here. Thank you very much for the call though. I'm really glad you enjoyed the book. Chris is up next in in Louisville. Hey, Chris, thank you for the call. Good afternoon. Paul. What's going on? We are doing great. Thanks a lot. So Eric couple of questions, you know, this whole we'll wait thing, man. That's bother me. I mean how you gonna was him comeback coats to. I mean seriously. Well, I think a lot of theories out there tonight, you know, one that maybe Joe Aleve is not really planning on being there much longer and is just doing a short term solution. That's not how you should run a university athletic department. You ought to be a little more concerned about the integrity. I I realized the letter of the law probably makes it more difficult for them to fire him. But commonsense. My prevail. If you're a top ten recruit top twenty recruit top fifty recruit in member Curtin, you you're not gonna go there because you don't know the outcome of what's going to happen. No. You mean, it seems so? Versity is is investing their own integrity and someone who whose behavior at best has to be construed as curious. And at worst is absolutely agree. Gis? Well, I mean, you know, you gotta look at it. That's any other big program. I don't get to be a big program. If you're if you're coaching on wiretap how'd Howdy by by. Well, you know, there's there's there's a there's an answer though. And if your coach comes out and says number one, that's either not me or that needs to be explained. But he he hasn't done that in he hired a criminal defense. Attorney who advised him not to speak to his bosses. Now is that difficult to understand why that advice was given because you really would not want to put yourself in harm's way, criminally. So he didn't do that. Then he went out and got a nother attorney who specializes in among other things NC double a law on on his on his attorneys website. He's from Chicago, he brags about rep. Presenting an SEC school football predicament and got an NC double A K charge thrown out, which by the way. I don't know that school who that's cool isn't I mean, it's one of fourteen obviously. And it wouldn't be that to to look. I mean that that's one. I mean, it's easy to understand where he's going. You all the same attorney also represented Shawn Miller, and Bruce Bruce Pearl both of whom are still coaching where where they started even though most ought they would be fired when when the allegations came out, so I understand that the approach he's taken I understand why the university has made a very short term decision when common set even though common sense would have said why don't we cut our losses and start all over again. I mean is this guy you want representing your school? The answer to me is no I wouldn't want me. Listen, I'm I'm out here to make friends. I'm here to be honest with the auto. Audience, and no, I would not want. We'll wait representing my school. Appreciate your honesty and love your show. Thank you very much. Sure. Somebody won't like that. But. Yeah. It's the pro who cares? That's the truth. And I invite we'll wait earlier to come on this program and discuss these allegations, and I hope he will because maybe after talking to him we all would have forget a better understanding how about some understanding of what this is all about. And at some point. I think it will way does not discuss this publicly with the media either in Baton Rouge or elsewhere, people are going to have a very difficult time believing anything he says right now he hasn't said anything other than a statement, which was probably written by his attorney. Covington is in South Carolina. Hello, kevin. You are next up. Hey, paul. How you doing today? We are doing great. Thank you. Hey, so tough questions here. One. Do you think we'll must champ is the right cokes for South Carolina. I don't think we have a clear answer on that yet Covington. I think he's done a moderately good job of trying to bring them back. I don't think they've come back yet. I thought I thought rash. Your was especially the ending of the season was bitterly disappointing when we talked to wheel a few weeks ago. He he was upbeat and and and optimistic which is great. But he's got the toughest schedule in the country. And what does this now his fourth year? Yes. It will be. I think it's incumbent upon him to show that he was the right choice. This is a pivotal year. You're right. And with that heart schedule coming up it's going to be a tough test. But I just I just can't help. But the thing the one word that comes to mind when we talk about him is potential, and it just it seems like just like at Florida. He had all the utilities in the world. And he only had one season over seven wins. And then you know, USC is just it's a lot of hype. I think and you know, we just wanna know well, see the right fit. And you know, you always hear this point or commentator like me saying how much they like will muschamp. You know, what I'm getting at there? I do likable guy. But he's yet to prove. He's a upper-echelon head football coach in the SEC. Yes, sir. I couldn't agree with you, more and. Second question, low offbeat and pass. But what do you think the SEC would benefit from from? Adding a couple of teams to spice things up say a couple of teams. Yes, sir. Well, even dropping a couple of teams had a couple because the same. The same survey that no matter if Missouri's going to win ten wins or not I saw the spring game. Just look like Kelly. Bryant was just trying to look excited even though. Let me let me give you a quick answer there. I don't think we're going to see this happen. And there's a reason why when you join a league you join for better or worse. And you just don't kick somebody out because they didn't win have a big season. There's a lot more to the SEC membership than your last one loss record. I do think there are some things on the horizon that may change the dynamics of the league from a football standpoint. And I think you'll hear about them in the coming months. I think there's a lot of conversation about the divisions. Do they have it? Right. A lot of people don't think they do Missouri being team that shouldn't be in the west. They should be in the east and excuse me. I got that wrong. Missouri should be in in the west, and they are in the east and Auburn fans would like to move to the east which would change everything there's already scheduling conversation. That is going to change everything. We know we know Georgia. Auburn is going to move up Tennessee and Georgia will move back. But that will have a trickle down and domino effect. Everything's going to change based on that we already see at this year. You see the Texas AM Georgia game at the end of the year. That's that's something new happen to like it myself. I love. They had some spice down. I think there's there's I think you're going to this is the prediction right here. I think you're going to hear some dramatic proposals to change the way the SEC is currently running here over the next two or three months. I'm not sure we're quite there yet. But I think I think we're on the cusp of at least a conversation about a big change. Thanks for the call. We are up against the break coming up with more of your phone calls and more guest hob Blackwood shortly on what he saw firsthand at Alabama spring game. Cried then patron tree of college football leaves here. The the Paul finebaum show our four podcast. Welcome back. I'm glad you're here. We were just listening to Nick Sabin talk about getting his hip fixed to hopefully coach for a long long time. Todd Blackledge was down in Tuscaloosa over the weekend. And we won't turn him into a north PD surgeon Todd good afternoon who would have expected Nick Sabin upstate the scrimmage by his own health issues. Good afternoon. How you doing Paul? No. You know, we met with him on Friday, and he never never indicated anything about it. So he was he was saving up for the post game press conference. I guess well, he's smart. He didn't want to upstage his team. Speaking of we've heard from some Alabama fans who were a little anxious after the game. You you watched it all you commented on it. Give us an assessment of what you saw. Yeah. I I don't put a whole lot of stock in spring football games. Paul. I, you know, first of all everybody doesn't differently. I don't know. How many teams do like Alabama does which is run your first team offense against your first team defense. And you know, that's always going to make it a little bit more difficult for your pets. And even as prolific of of an offense that Alabama had last year, and we'll have again this year. So, you know, I think the one thing probably my biggest takeaway is that on that second team defense, or you know, the reserve defense that was crimson defense. You know, there's a lot of young guys that are going to have to you know, improve and learn to you know, to play their roles in where they fit in. But you know, this is a team that's got a lot of talent on all levels of the defense and all levels of the offense. And you know, I just don't put a whole lot of stock into the result of that spring football game. I certainly understand in you've seen to play at full strength. And he's quite quite good. In terms of what you sauce Saturday anything to read into his performance. No, I don't think. So again, I think that they are going to be doing a few things a little bit differently. But but again, Paul, you know, Alabama, you know, the all these coaches are smart, they're not gonna show any of their real new wrinkles offensively or defensively in a game. Like that. I mean, it's a it's a scaled-down full-contact scrimmage. Limited looks limited things that they're doing offense of Italy and defensively because you know, there's people in the stadium that are representing other teams watching the game. There's everybody recording it or DVR airing it to to watch it later. So they're not gonna give anything away. I think that what we see in the fall from to and the Alabama pass game because of the influence of Steve star Qizheng and his couple years in the NFL. I think we'll see some different things in formations and and ways to create some some matchups with the great receivers that they have you know, last year. I think that they were very very heavily reliant on. The RPO pass game. And it was great for them. And it created a ton of big plays. But the longer the season when when they face some of the better defenses that had a lot of gains on film. You know, there's only so many read you make on those kind of place. So I think that they'll still have that. But I think we'll see that passing game expanded some other ways as the fall and Foltz next year. Just forgetting what you saw but relying on what you know in terms of the offense of firepower that Alabama has how would you break down, certainly some big big losses. We know that but they're not going to be bear in either. Are they? Oh, no, not at all. I mean, you know, they've got. Again, they've got starters in high level players returning everywhere. You know? So even though they've got to replace a center and another, you know, an all American offensive tackle. They've got starters returning. They recruited three outstanding freshman that all enrolled early that all went through spring football and the offensive line. So they'll be fine. They're wide receiver. They've got his group is anybody in the country tight end. You know, it'll be interesting to see if Miller forestall can be the same kind of productive tight end in the passing game. You know that that Irv Smith was last year is a very similar kind of tight end. He's not a big overpowering guy at the line of scrimmage and then in the backfield. You know, you lose two great ones. But you've got ninety Harris. Who's kind of waited his turn to be the feature back at Brian Robinson, and too big physical bags. They've got good ones coming into summer that they recruited so offense. I I don't think there's any problem certainly quarterback death is different than it was last year with Jalen hurts moving onto Norman, Oklahoma. But you know, MAC Joe's played well. And I think he I said this on the air not only was that good for him. I think it was even better for his teammates to see him for the second year in a row play well in the spring and just kind of send a message look to our guy. We hope he stays healthy all year, we can do great things with him. But if I'm made to play I can run this offense and make some things happen. So offensively they've got what they need. And I would say the same thing defensively they lost great players. But when you have stars returning at each level your defense, which they have you know, they're in good shape. Ray Kwan Davis, Anthony Jennings. You know on the line of scrimmage you've got Dylan Moses at linebacker. You've got exa- Xavier McKinney and return Trayvon digs in the secondary Patrick's can I thought? Better as a year went on. I think he's going to be a star. So, you know, I think they're in really really good shape. All. Todd. You played on championship teams, you understand the mindset, but it seems like Alabama after going fourteen and no and getting the feet in championship game that that saving another tried to come up with this different mentality being around there with a lot of new coaches, what did you pick up just from from an attitudinal standpoint for the crimson tide? Yeah. I think that there was a sense that you know, we kind of got away from a few things that that maybe in our preparation, and and we were winning games so handily, and it's always harder to make corrections to really bear down on on demento things when you're winning and winning handily. And you know, that's why here Nick Sabin say something that you know, to the average Alabama fan might sound crazy when he says we might have been better off taking the loss at some point before that championship game. Because so that stuff when it got corrected, and and and that's not just coach speak. I mean, it's it's hard to get eighteen nineteen twenty year olds attention all the time to really hone in on your preparation when you're winning games by twenty plus points. And so, you know, I think that that got their attention, obviously, getting your butt whipped will do that. And that's what happened in the championship game. And so I sent that you know that. There was a kind of an attitude of. Okay. Look that ended up being it's going to end up being good for us. We'll get back to doing things the way we know we want to do them and demand. The things that we know we wanted to mand, you know, I picked that up. Most clearly with a very short conversation with one of those coaches that's new again this year. That's a friend of mine and a guy that I used to play against it was at Pitt thousand Serey at Saudis came up to me on the practice field. He said, you know, what we're gonna get back to really demanding. What what we really need and what we really at one out of these guys. And so I, you know, I just think that's the overall attitude. You know, you call it the Bama lay the process wherever you want to call it. But you know, they're going to they're going to get it done the way to guy wearing the hat wants it done. And and everybody's gonna kind of fall in line with that before you go and ask you about p Golding because certainly with a lot of turnover. He he remains and the defense from. What people say is maybe a little sharper. What were your reflections and thoughts on what you saw from him and talking to him and the defensive side of the ball. I was very impressed with Pete Golding by spent time we had a meeting with him for about twenty five minutes. And then I had the opportunity to go down and his his meeting room or his coaches room and visit with him personally, just one on one for another twenty five minutes. And you know, he got up on the board and was showing me some things that I had questioned about it. He is very very bright. He's a great teacher. I had heard that about him before I met him at just that time. I spent in his office with him on the board. I could see what everybody, you know, why so many people are high on why other teams around the country where so hot after him this year. He's he's a great communicator, a great teacher, a very, very smart guy. And and again, I think we'll see we'll see some. Different rankles out of that Alabama defense. It's still mix savings defense. And and Pete knows that. But I think I think Nick has a lot of confidence in in what Pete brings to the table. And it'll be exciting to see what you know what wrinkles he adds to that defense. This fall, Don, thanks for coming by always always really fun to catch up. And hope you have a good spring, and we will see in the summer. We hope. Sounds good talking to you. Thank you very much likely fantastic report. And I heard a lot of people over the weekend say what he said about Golding. He maybe one of those names that you've heard about, but you'll hear a lot more about in the future. We still have thirty minutes left to take your phone calls and. The tear from you eight five five to four to seven to eight five. Cried pack then patterns re of college football leaves here. The is the Paul finebaum show our four podcast. Welcome back. Five minutes of the program. And we are glad you are with us. Let's talk to Terry in Tennessee. How you how are you Terry? Good afternoon to you. Good afternoon, Paul. I'm good great to hear. I would call in about that Tennessee spring game. I was wondering if he's got a glimpse of it or not saw some of it. Yes. You know, how Jamie Pruitt's been trying to build a stadium up for the past two springs. Yes. It has yet to happen. Okay. Well, that's a big stadium. I think he would agree. I understand I understand it how one hundred and two thousand that's a very big stadium. But the question that I was calling about heard rumors about exhibition games in the spring games about other college programs play another school is in the springs is that true or not. I mean, there's been some conversation about Terry. But I think we we have not quite reached that point. I would love to see it myself because they spree. No, not very interesting is as Todd likely who called one of them said, I totally agree with you. I think it would be more interesting if we did have exhibition gangs than we would get more fans in tendons in their stadiums. And stuff, you know, Terry, you don't need exhibition games because I think I don't know Mark Johnson Alabama plays about seven or eight exhibition games during the regular season. Don't they? Anyway, let's get back to the calls and Joe is up next. Joe go right ahead. Oh, how you doing today? Joe? We are doing great great to hear from you. Hope you're okay. Oh, I'm hanging in there. But I do apologize for some bad language. I used against yo-, you know, the rules here. We don't accept apologies. We move on. Well, I'm I'm of care because I've got a steel arthritis in my hip, and it's really bothering me pretty bad, especially Joe. I'm sure you saw savings getting his hip work. Maybe you should call the same doctor. Well, if I had a number I'd get it. But I'll one thing I wanted to talk about is you got you got to hit while ago when you talk about takes his AM because to me what imbo Fisher doing their thirty impressive what he's doing. And I think they're going to be a real real challenge for the way, you know, this year Tigar, and and I think, and I think it's gonna come down to them and Bama and God forbid album, but what what JIMBO doing there is remarkable. And and you know, AJ like you say, he's eighty eight really is coming alone and a collar that called early that talking about to South Carolina. And and we'll most camp, you know, there's there's good coaches, and they're, you know, great great coaches to turn the program around pretty quick and dad Bo didn't turn Clinton around overnight. But you know, it took some work to do. But you know, they basically as far as head coaching job. And so, you know, with much most champ, he's he's had, you know, he's had a state at Florida, and I think he would do physical. You know, this is eighth or ninth years ahead. Coach. Right. And he's just not. What program or what he's doing? But you know, he just he just had motivated, you know, or showed me anything. And I don't think it's because it South Carolina because he read it really didn't do nothing that Florida either. But anyway, I just wanted to get my input on there. And I think Texas is going to be, you know, major problem for the the Jose this year. But anyway, pollens good at all to you. And again, I'm sorry. How was earlier, but I'm doing a lot better now Rio we are really glad to hear from you. Hope you continue to improve, you know, thanks very much follow. And you have a good evening. Thank you, Joe. The return of Joe from red day. Josh in Houston is up next. Hell Josh, you're on the air gerrad head. Hey, Paul great loved show thinking. Thank you. Questions for you. How do you feel Paul Tyson bear trans? My four year old wanted tell you roll type you got, but he wanted, but we you know, how how you took Paul Tyson's going to be his future, Alabama and two two questions here. How do you feel Jalen hurts and Oklahoma's gonna be as far as competition to us toward the end of the season. I think Jalen is going to have a big year. I think we had to tongue of I low on your earlier on Monday Friday, I should set. I realize a lot of you were watching the masters, and he he said he hoped to see Jalen in in the semi finals or the finals as far as Paul Tyson. He's great. He's the great grandson of Paul Bryant. I think he's going to have a big career is big tall guy. Six side six six great passer. And I mean, there's a little hard to get much of a read on on him getting thrown to the wolves. I mean, remember he just graduated high school. He was playing in the state Alabama state tournament a couple of. A couple of months ago. So I'm not gonna read too much into his first appearance. But I think he will he will definitely be in the rotation in due time. Thank you very much for the call. Josh good to hear from you. And will is in Georgia will welcome to the program and good afternoon. Thank you. I just wanted to actually thank you for mentioning the tragedy with the Notre Dame fire. One of the things I really like about your program. Isn't it? You're so well rounded, and they're not many people even in my circle of friends that I could talk to about this. But you know, they're memories just like in sports. You have memories traditions hopes that speculations, and I was thinking back on all the things that go in. There is meant to me. I went there with my wife on our honeymoon that daddy was in who was in World War Two in through there took him back and retrace the steps, and then we took our kids back over there. And it was just gratifying to hear somebody else that, you know, I know the main focus to sports SEC football and all of that you had handle fans from ADA Z. But it just really was comforting to me in some way that you mentioned. Yeah. I have I've been to France had never been the Paris was planning are going maybe the summer, and that would have been number one. Well, among the top two or three things I should say. To see it just got so much history. I mean, it was built in medieval time, as you know, having been there and. Yeah. You hate to see anything from a historical perspective. I mean, this is one of the most famous cathedrals in the world. And it was it was. Yeah. It was walking around today. And I and I realized this was something we don't even know what caused it yet. But everywhere I went it was on every every young person every middle aged and older person in this building was glued to that. And there are not many days. Thank goodness. I say because we both have lived through a lot of tragedy, and you know, some of just unimaginable proportion, but. Today was one of those days when no matter where you turn right left or in front or in back of you people were watching this this great building that has gone through so much history. And and change burnt they did say late tonight that the structure has been saved obviously, the spire and the roof is gone. But the good news is I think it can be at least reconstructed. What do you Paul? Thank you very much. Appreciate the call will nice of you to join us and enter into bring that up because it's certainly on the minds of so many people we'll take a break few minutes left to go on this program. Your phone calls are next. Cried packing, then patron Torri of college football leaves here. The the Paul finebaum show our four podcast. Welcome back. Talking about Florida football during that break. Let's head to Gainesville and say Hello to Barbara. Hello, barbara. Hello, paul. Enjoy your show. I wanna make a comment in wonder what you think about the upcoming Kentucky wildcat. I'm a wild cat fan in the gator football fan in the gator bloomed goats game, Saturday was awesome. So what do you think about upcoming Kentucky? Wildcats. Is in Lexington this year? I think it'd be a tough game. Listen Kentucky's for real. I don't think they'll be quite as powerful as they were your ago losing one of the dusty fans of players in the country and one of their best running backs ever. But I still think there'd be good. And I'm not sure by give Mike it Florida slight edge in that game right now. But it's April. Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you led to hear you really. Thank you. Thanks, barbara. Great to hear from you run is in Kentucky, and you are next up. Yeah. All I found caller and a while at them, I still, and I was wondering of I would had heard you say something about the over fans born to be moved to the east right there with other not reading Campion's on that right now. Yeah. I think I think it's balanced a little bit more when you have passed championships. But. I don't I don't think any of this stuff is critical. I mean what I what I think some people don't like though is. Is in this current world. Order of of the big twelve going to a top two teams will the SEC hit that year. When it isn't particularly compelling now, let the last two years last year, I should say we had an epic confrontation, and we have had really some great SEC encounters. But we went through a period, though, I think in twenty thirteen and maybe twenty fourteen when the games were even a little bit later than that. When you did not have the two best teams in the SEC playing. And I I liked it divisional play. Now this year, we had the earliest I remember being Lexington today for Saturday and November in both divisions were were were one that day that rarely happens. I I liked the division divisional racist going late. And I think if keeps people interested now, there are plenty of people who don't like that. What do you do? You have a preference. No, not really afterlife. You you have to be the best team. No matter what right do in. So it doesn't really matter. If Alabama is the best and every year that the thing you've gotta be via national champion anyway. So we. I know I don't know if I I really don't. I mean, I mean, look, let's let's go back couple years. I mean, you had that who was it Alabama Missouri game in twenty fourteen I believe and then the to Florida games were. I mean, they were not compelling game. Not that tough for the at. You know, I'm thinking, maybe. To get back to where they were and Georgia is getting back to where they were Georgia. Listen Georgia's there, but but I, but I would agree with you. If you change the way, we currently do it. It makes it harder for a Tennessee or Kentucky to fight because that means you you have to be one of the top. I mean the way the big twelve does right now you have to be one or two to play. You'll hear a lot about that being discussed. I'm not sure I buy it. Thanks for the call. Great to have you on Tom is up next, Tom go right ahead. You're on the air. Yes. You are. Thank you. Dan. I'm old Tennessee. In fact, I went to Tennessee when Melton lie was a coach. Oh my goodness. And I'm very old. And you got a great memory Bowden coach in the fifties. Didn't he? Yes. Right. Well, what brought me to mind on. This was when you were talking about Spurrier and why he didn't go. Yeah. Tennessee well balanced belly. I watched them when Johnny majors won the Cotton Bowl. Well, he was mainly using a single wing. Right. And when I was there in the early sixties everybody else was running formations, and he was running that single laying and they were terrible. And and so I just I just wondered. Yeah. I'm pretty sure Spurrier. I mean, I know somebody brought up some another reason why Spurrier 'cause I think would Bowden was there about and why was there until what sixty two or something like that? Yes. Yeah. Sixty or sixty three, but yeah, he just he just never had anything majors left. No. I'm pretty sure that was the main reasons for your. I mean, remember Spurrier from east, Tennessee. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. That's the the singular biggest reason I don't think it had anything else to do with Bowden's demeanor. Well, they the thing I wanted to bring up as I've been loyal to all the years, but I have always been disappointed in their recruiting. It. It seems like they are always have like a second tier recruiting program when they'll get one or two good guys. And then they just seem like they're they're fighting in the second tier you talking about any. Yes. Well, that's not that that's been accurate lately. But in Butch Jones had a couple of top five classes, he just couldn't keep the players. It wasn't sustainable. I think Jeremy Pruitt has a really a really good chance of getting ten. Back from a recruiting standpoint. Jeremy Pruitt is is a really good coach. And and you think about even though we were talking about golden Golding at Alabama right now. They're still quite a drop off when you go Kirby smart. Jeremy Pruitt to where we have been the last two years and in Alabama fans wonder what's going on. But I. Well, I was I was I was very excited when when when when Butch recruited all that bunch of he had, but then he had this this heavy big fullback. Just totally demoralized the team. Yeah. And then he comes back a wide receiver for Baylor. You are right by that Tom not much if anything went right for Bush, the last two years great to hear from you. We'll hear those about Wyatt stories in the future. We're out of time podcast available. Always on the app. We had a really good show will Wade conversation. More tomorrow. Thank you for listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The pride passion, then Patrick three of college football leaves here. The is the Paul finebaum show. Best of podcast there. Joining us. He saw the game the other Dan, thanks for the time. So we're we're speculating about something we don't really know the answer to you were there. What did it look like to you? When you saw Justin plight. You certainly looks the part I think anybody who saw many last year or two knows that too. But he's not a finished product. I think that's the main takeaways that he's not Dwayne Haskins. He's not NFL ready. That's a Steph end. He's got a great arm. He's fast. He's going to be able to run the ball a lot in this offense days can be able to take advantage of that. But he sells a lot of work to do both in polishing his own game. And also learning the Ohio State playbook, which took the guys that have come before him a couple of years to really fully digest. He's just a few months into it. It's gonna be a stop and start process. I think along the way before he gets really comfortable running that offense. And there was an issue at Georgia. I mean, he was trying to learn on the fly, but he was way behind from the beginning. And just couldn't quite catch up having settled that people that are familiar with him. Just think the upside is remarkable. What what do you think are some of the biggest issues he'll have to figure out? What Ryan is putting on the field. Up there. Yeah. And I agree. The upside is fantastic. I mean, he one passes probably fifty yards down the field from his own endzone ended up in a ninety eight yard touchdown. He clearly has the tools to be really really good. And he's got an offense a playbook that can make him really good one of the challenges. He faces that not only does he have a new coach and he's got a new team. But a lot of the pieces that were around Wayne Haskins that made this state offense good a year ago or gone to it was three other top receivers Paris Campbell, Johnny Dixon. Terry MacLaurin is a guy who's going to be creeping up draft boards for the next couple of weeks. Those guys weren't only talented receivers. They're kind of leaders the offense. They've got four new offense of lineman starters too. So there's going to be a lot of moving pieces around fields that need to fit in. And he's going to have to take over group. That's all of them are going to be learning on the fly here when the two thousand nine hundred season start get started giving him some more background on on Ryan days of into this job seem pretty good during the first three games before urban. Came back. I realized we don't know yet. But what's your best? Guess. Well, one of the things that struck me this weekend is for the past three or four months. Everything at Ohio State has seemed like such a easy succession plan, the passing of the torch between urban and Ryan day was incredibly smooth the passing of the torch from Dwayne Haskins. Justin field steps in the very same week to come and take over it felt like most people felt it was sort of preordained that he was going to get this waiver to play right away and seem like there was any concerns but this weekend. We got the first sense of. Well, this might be a little bit of work in progress. There's still the potential for things to pick up right where they left off. But it's not an automatic deal day. Obviously has has a ton of great experience. He's really smart guy. One of the most interesting things that I think he has to figure out is he's taking over a program that was run by a guy who wins nine out of everything games coaches. And that guy still has an office right down the hall from him. How is Ryan day of first time head coach going to be sure to put his own stamp on this program and not just try to be the next urban Meyer rather than the first Ryan day people that I've talked to that are close to him really competent that he's going to be fine doing that that he's got a good sense of what makes him a good coach and how he's going to be able to do that. But to me that's probably the biggest challenge facing him at a program that that's almost as close as you get to program that doesn't take a step back anywhere in college football. And let me ask you about the aforementioned urban Meyer when Bob stoops retired Oklahoma. He was pretty much everywhere. He was a big part of the program you mentioned urban office. I I've read these teaching and ethics class. And we also know he's going to work for FOX on TV is he seen much around there. He's around campus and around the program still obviously was interesting on on Saturday, which was sort of the first public day for Ryan day to to be the head coach since the Rosebowl urban was was nowhere to be seen. He's showed up on the video board wants it once or twice when they're showing highlights from the previous season. But he wasn't on the sideline. He wasn't around. There really wasn't any mention of him or the you know, they brought the twentieth. Eighteen team back to get their rings. And the revenge of former players who were hanging around both from that team from the championship team years before that the national championship team. But but Meyer wasn't around that I have to assume that that was at least somewhat intentional to make sure to give Ryan day in this new coaching staff space, they need to really establish themselves as the new faces of Ohio State. Then earned Myers complex. We all know that in last August there were varying opinions, although we saw one hundred or two people stand outside and protest the media and everyone else when he was suspended, but what would you say based on your visits there and your interaction with people? What do people really think about urban Meyer, and what he left behind aside from the winning? We know that we know they like that. Yeah. I think in Columbus. He's going to be remembered really fondly, obviously the final season in what happened last August definitely put a dent in his legacy. And he said as much when he stepped down in December. He said he would love to Lottie and pretend like that wasn't going to be a thing. But of course, it's something that's going to be always footnote on what he did there. But you know, he took a program and an elevated it in Columbus. And I think for most of that time he was seen as a guy who was doing things the right way and building a program on on sort of solid ground ethical, moral whatever you wanna see in a head coach. And I think that people still feel that as as reflected by the fact that he's currently teaching a class on campus in leadership and ethics. So if there was questions about whether or not they still felt he had those things clearly universities still sees that in him. And it's a pretty full class from what I understand. So I think that the student body and the other people around campus still see him as somebody who was. Absolutely a net gain Ohio State somebody they're happy that will supposedly at least at this point finish his career as it Ohio State coach I tried to sign up for urban class. But I was rejected. Do you know anyone who's been in there? And what does he talk about? The pre recs are tough. I think I have not I've seen a few stories and talk to a couple of people that that saw Mike Leach's class in person. I think urban spend a little bit more closed off on on offering that. And I think he and gene Smith of have it's not only just a class that they've established what they're trying to to build sort of a leadership institute of some degree where they're bringing a lot of athletes in from different teams and trying to workshop leaders leadership attributes and sports specifically from that front too. So I think there's still feeling out a little bit exactly what his role is going to be and how he's going to stay involved in Columbus, which I think is was was an important thing to him when he decided he was done coaching that he wanted to stay involved somehow in helping students and helping athletes specifically figure out how to be good leaders. But part of that seems to be still a work in progress. I think it's been pretty closed off to the public thus far. Okay. I just thought I won't take it personally then. Hey, thanks, Dan. Great. You're on a very much. You bet. Thanks, paul. Dan Murphy joining us. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's get onto the big story of the day at least in the SEC. And that's we'll Wade's reinstatement. Glenn gildo? Always great to have him on Glenn. Always. I'm sure you're you're maybe you knew about it in advance. But that that late Sunday night news dump on we'll way good afternoon. How are you? Good good. Actually did not know about it. I mean, that's not something would happen on on Monday. But no that was that was bit of surprise six thirty Sunday knife right after the masters. Really the nice day. But. You know, it was probably it was probably the right decision for LSU in the short term. Well, listen, we've all tried to speculate in very few of us, especially me know, what know anything. So that's why we want you on to help us better understand how we got to this point. And where we go from here. I asked that question every day, cover and LSU. Now, I think really will Wade folly wise up and and met with LSU, you know, if he'd had done what he did fly if he'd have done that back in around March ninth or tenth he couldn't coached LSU in the SEC tournament, and and maybe gotten a better seat coast and through the NCAA tournament and probably would have had a better chance against the team. Like like, Michigan state, but any hired of better. Attorney Steven Jake Thompson just hired that person a couple of weeks ago who who defended Bruce Pearl, Shawn Miller, and and and all of a sudden coach Wade was was meeting with LSU, and he got his job back really really nuts. Very little has changed to a now and in and in March, you know, so he could have he could have been reinstated back in March. So where does this put him though, especially with this looming trial coming up is he still in on that is he out? Do we know anything? No, the the he's he's possibly going to have to testify in in this trial federal trial starts on April twenty second, you know, that came out and in February that he may have to testify, and and you know, he wasn't suspended for that. And I don't think that really would have stopped him from from being reinstated and in March, but you know, something could come out of that. But you know, there's a chance he may not have to testify, and it it depends. What he's what he's asked. But regardless of what comes on in that. I think the NCAA and the FBI are going to continue the FBI, particularly it's gonna continue to investigate and then the NCI NCAA after that. So, you know, sure later, you know, LSU in Wade or going to have to pay the piper so to speak if he did a legally recruit survived a smarter and other players. Does it seem like this was a short term legal game where if he did this then LSU would do that? And you're you alluded to it there. But you're putting off the inevitable trying to figure out really what's to what has shoot your looks. Like, yeah, I'm MC L shoes. Definitely looking at a short term situation right now, you can start recruiting on busy prospects on on Wednesday there in on some really good prospects. There's one in Fermi hem Alabama actually that LSU has a really good shot at friend in wandered from mountain brook. But I think they were looking at a short term. And and really the thing is, and I think the way schools view being said now in the AirAsia did in keeping showing Miller in a very similar situation. Miller got up tonight. Everything that's kind of what we did. You know, you take your chances on the NCAA, and and it's down the road. So you know, you you'll worry about that when that comes up. So in the meantime, you you keep your coach you try to win. Whereas if you fired your coach, you know, you might look better in the eyes of the NCAA down the road. But your program will suffer in the short term. You know, what else you wouldn't have a chance to get these players coming in and keeping the players thinking about the draft if they didn't have weight right now. So they took a short term strength. Is there a sense of relief in Louisiana or has there been so much damage done that it's hard to really figure out what the believe in this case? Oh, there's a big sense of relief from LSU fan base. But I think it's a little naive. Then in a way. I mean, they think it's old. You know, they think it's completely over they think coaches back, and that's it. Whereas really, you know, it's it's kind of a short term solution. You know, it's it's not over. There's still an ongoing and saying query of of Wade and engine Jonty smart and the federal investigation is still going on. But you know, LSU fans kinda don't, you know, they don't believe a lot of story. Even though it's pretty black and white if you read those who the yahu sports report. But no, the LSU fans are happy to have their coach back though. I think some of them do think that you know, why why didn't you why? Did you do this back in March? I mean, that's what I'm saying. Why didn't we do this back in March? But the LSU flaming LSU for that, not wait, which is kinda crazy. Do you think as much criticism as he gets Joe Aleve had has had any other choice in handling this procedure the way he has. And it's you know, he he's got to be smart enough to know what's around the corner, or what could be around the corner. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah. When his contract runs out in a year. So he might not have to deal with it. It might not be. But you know, I've. I've not always defended Jolie. But I think he's handled. This extremely well. I mean, you know, they always shoot fans disagreed with me. But I think the leave us done what he should do. I mean, he should have suspended him. Wade refused to meet with them. And wait also he didn't give a leva an accurate picture of what was going on. When Lee spoke to him back in October. When the first tapes about we'll wait came out in in his recruitment of of another player balsa Provincia who ended up not coming to LSU. And so, you know, I think the leave and LSU have done the right things. They're you know, they were correct. When they said Wade broke his contract by not meeting with them in in March. And and they kept the door open. You know, they've kept the door open for over a month is the meaning they had Friday was the same meeting LSU wanted back in March ten March ninth when or March eleventh. When they could've gotten way back in time. So I believe it's done a very good job considering what he was up against the wage is the one who messed up his chance to coach his players in the NCAA tournament. And if I'm willing to wage players, I gotta be saying, hey, crate, you met you got reinstated. Why didn't you do this back in March you could've coached this tournament? Going. I know you it's easy to blame lawyers. That's who you allegedly believe and depend on. And we know we know Wade change lawyers. But is there any other explanation to his behavior from back then until now? Well, yeah, he did he did change warriors. Michael McGovern was a New York City criminal lawyer who is advising him not to meet with LSU back in March. And then there's new lawyer Stephen j Thompson from Chicago. He he changed things. But still weighed mate that says, you know, Wade hired that lawyer and listen to them, whereas common sense shoulda told them. Hey, I need to be with my boss right here and the end, but you know, he made a mistake, but he did apologize yesterday in and his statement. So hopefully does realize minimum state. Are are we going to hear any of these people talk to the media beyond statements? I don't think so no. I was told by somebody at LSU last week that this was not going to be a press conference situation. They don't want to answer the obvious questions. You know? You know, what what did you do your day? Smart coach, wait, what do you mean by strong s offer? What do you mean by piece of the pie? What do you mean? By the word deal. You know, he's probably not going to answer those questions, and you know, a lot of times when when something like this happens schools are moving toward just releasing statements instead of having a big press conference. I know you've alluded to there are more curtains to look behind that at some point. But if you had to take a wild guess will Wade be coaching next November when the season begins. Yeah. I think he will be coaching. I think he's following the Shawn Miller blueprint. There was also on tape talking about a financial deal for player and he's still coach that zone. I don't know how much longer he will be. But I think Wade is gonna continue as coach and they're gonna cross that NCA bridge when it comes up. I actually will. He should he be coaching next year. Well, you know based on the information, they have you know, that I have that. I've read I would say, yeah. But I would think if you know if more information comes out more damning information and LSU, you know, should have more access to some of that information quicker than than the general public. If they keep funding more information, you know, because again, remember Wade said over that's it. And then this came out in March with with smart. So if there's another revelation by Yahoo. And and more information comes out, then I think LSU's got, you know, realize, hey, what are we doing here? But you know, let's say I was us been multitasking. I mean, they've looked into what it would take the fire Wade with 'cause too. So they're they're they're prepared to to move in that direction if something if there's another revelation. But right now, it looks like he's gonna co. Do you think out? This is a tricky question. I I know I know I know what the view is inside the state is anyone they're concerned about the way. This looks outside of Louisiana. No, I I don't think fan base care about how things look outside anymore. You know? And if if LSU fans try to say, oh, look look with that schools doing look this goes through. Hey, look, what your school's doing, you know, and and LSU has historically had a pretty good reputation for its NCA compliance department. But you know, I'd say they've taken a hit by this, particularly if he remains coach, and there's more revelations, but you know, LSU's only been on probation basketball once but ball twice, which is which is pretty good. But you know, this is not something to brag about you know, they looked like any other school right now. Arizona, you know, Auburn he, of course, I've been fired Chuck Person though, you know, LSU hasn't hasn't fired anyone they just did suspension. So, but you know, LSU can't look down its nose on anyway. One. If as if they could have before that, you know, they're just like Arizona in this situation, which LSU people criticize. As the world turns. The by virgin. Hey, keep keep keep to them. You know, another. Yahoo store could drop at any seconds. Yeah. I don't know what. The odds are in Vegas. But I bet you could get you could get some money on one on happening. Hey, thanks, Glenn. One thing's for sure you always have a job as long as Joe elite as the athletic director. But he did go with this. I think, but you know, he's he's probably might be looking forward to to leaving in a year. Now joy. So his contract runs out. Is there any reason to believe he's going to stay or go or or do you think he's out? He's he's on his way out. I think that he's got some fans he's got some detractors. But it's it's coming up on a about a year away, you know, July of two thousand twenty you'd think if he was going to get an extension. He would've already gotten it or pretty soon. So it's going to be interesting to see I I will tell you. I I don't remember of LSU having an athletic director, who's younger than fifty you know, in a long time. And you know, it might be nice refresher to to have a younger athletic director. I'm sure I'm sure king Alexander's listening to your comments able duly note that Glenn come back soon. Thank you, very very much. Thank you. Great stuff. Some really revealing stuff thereby glance. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's go to Fred next in Texas. Hell of Fred. Call one of today of a happy Monday. Thank you. I wanna talk a little bit about this will Wade situation. And there was one thing that was saying that the end of the call with Glenn I an and basically what he was saying was that, you know, the people in Louisiana have way they feel about this that may be different than the way that others view it and I've wanted to dig into that just a little bit. If I can because you and I've talked about this. And you even though you're a fellow brother from the south. I don't quite fit. You get them. The wheezy Hannah pheno that some people have on this. I want to try to explain it, please. Then there was and for those of a certain age, they'll remember this name sheriff Chessel also from a real perished in the sixties and seventies. In was very youngest Sarah thirty one years old eventually brought up on federal charges of extortion and criminal allegations, including the fact that he used the deputies cars he says clause. To brought the the insurance now chemical because he saw that they were license plates coming from Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas, all around and not enough Louisiana. He was acquitted while there was his whole jury on every single charge against just a law. So when you re election businesses slogan, India haunt, you know, he's right was if you would never bear God what is oh Fogel from sixty four. We usually of people look at what's happening. This saving says, we're not gonna let somebody from the middle district of Elise ama- some additional New York. Tell us how we're going to judge one of our own people. And when you talk about the tape, and you've asked the right question, one of the take what about the violation that appears to be taking place on pate, Paul Huma lease and a sports fan. Yes. In yourself, really? Are we saying that violations of sports Lewis caught on tape shit have us on the fainting counts? Because the first thing they're gonna take January twelfth let twenty nineteen that saints Rams game. When it was violation of sports will was caught on tape. And yet nothing was done about money jump in here quickly. I mean, I lived in Louisiana with Edwin Edwards was a governor. I I'm familiar with the state. I I didn't live there long. But a year was enough. Oh, brother brother, understand what you're talking about? But, but I you all I don't need to educate, you, your attorney. But there is a difference between criminal law and NC AA law. And I think some people are getting that confused. No. Well, listen, the two of us in John Hayes could get will Wade off on a criminal charge. But that's there's a difference though. Between the way the way things are going to come down. From an double. Now. I think Glenn said it best. LSU's gambling right now that the NC double A is so incompetent that they'll never be able to make this stick, by the way. That's a good gamble. But what about LSU's reputation in the process? That's what I ask you. Well, I'm glad you asked to fall because one other thing they glance at and he's eating maestro. He knows that program inside out, and you know, the history as well, he mentioned that there was only one instance in which Ellen she's basketball program had had a sanctions, and that I believe he had to be referred to a mess to Earl situation. Right. Went back to the NBA in the ninety. And here's the deal about that one LSU had three I think three probation, and what happened Lester Earl the plan for those who don't know his should play who allegedly was paying about six to six hundred dollars the LSU while he was LSU something along those lines and Brown. And at the time assistant goes Johnny Jones were implicated in it. They were eventually both of it. And Lester Earl a three page apology that was envy Everett newspaper that said that NCA told him unless he gave them something on coast Brown coast Jones when he transferred to university of Kansas. He would only have one year ago was listen. It's it's really. I think you're right. And and I think LSU is is is doing this the way they feel like they they must. But I'm willing to bet you that. It doesn't have a good ending. That they have to be seen. And I wanna be clear I'm trying to explain the feelings. The sentiments of people who are who have called in child in support of the coach and those who live even sat on the sidelines. But I can't let you go. Without this one thing that has to be integrity in any system and people have to have confidence in it. If they don't have confidence in it. It's at that point that they begin to say things like we don't care because I mean, you'll hear Rick Latinos lane who goes name. No Carolina, all those. And so I think that's part of it. And so I'll leave with that you having a great show. I just wanna hear somebody answer that question. No want about raising a question. I think right now, they're so there there's such a lack of integrity across the board with the NCWA not only from certain schools, but from the top does anyone really believe or trust the leadership of the NCWA? And I think there in lies the skeptics. You listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Nick is up next nigga right ahead. Hey, how you doing today? Man. We're yeah. By the way, I mistake. I I put you our Dany brands the other day, and I meant to put you on with cubic because you don't like mad. I would Rams that was Danny brands. I would keep track is here today. Once they wanna tell them in him. Oh, now, cloud a with him. What have manic? I don't know. I don't know of our meal with us. Well, because I think on talk spring game to his performance the coach now that what I wanted to talk about dollars day. What is out about the game? I want to ask what about by dome? He looked average. Wait a minute is Nick starting to quarterback controversy. Maybe a good defense. You like MAC names to man, y'all last year was may pay. So what? Well, he should have been MVP this weekend. They gave it to magic. They're saying Mack Jones can be a top ten defense. I'm John was playing against number one day fans within the game officially over. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Todd Blackledge was down in Tuscaloosa over the weekend. And we won't turn him into a north surgeon. Todd good afternoon, and who would have expected Nick Sabin upstage the scrimmage by his own health issues. Good afternoon. How you doing Paul? No we've met with him on Friday. He never never indicated anything about it. So he was he was saving that one up for the post game press conference. I guess well, he's smart. He didn't want to upstage his team. Speaking of we've heard from some Alabama fans who were little anxious after the game. You you you? You watched it all you commented on it. Give us an assessment of what you saw. Yeah. I you know, I don't put a whole lot of stock in spring football games. Paul. You know, first of all everybody doesn't differently. I don't know. How many teams do like Alabama does which is run your first team offense against your first team defense. And you know, that's always gonna make it a little bit more difficult for your offense. And even as prolific of offense that Alabama had last year, and we'll have again this year. So, you know, I think the one thing probably my biggest takeaway is that on that second team defense, or you know, the reserve defense that was crimson defense. You know, there's a lot of young guys that are going to have to you know, improve and learn to you know, to play their roles and where they sit in. But you know, this is a team that's got a lot of talent on all levels of the defense and all levels of the offense. And you know, I just don't put a whole lot of stock into the results of that spring football game. I certainly understand in you've seen to play at full strength. And he's quite quite good. In terms of what you saw Saturday anything to read into his performance. Now, I don't think so again, I think that they are going to be doing a few things a little bit differently. But but again, Paul, you know, Alabama, you know, the all these coaches are smart, they're not gonna show any of their real new wrinkles ofensive or defensively in a game. Like that. I mean, it's a it's a scaled-down full-contact scrimmage. Limited looks limited things that they're doing offense of Italy and defensively because you know, there's people in the stadium that are representing other teams watching the game. There's everybody recording it or DVR into it to watch it later. So they're not gonna give anything away. I think that what we see in the fall from to and the Alabama pass game because of the influence of of Steve Sarkissian and his couple years in the NFL. I think we'll see some different things in formations and and ways to create some some matchups with the great receivers that they have you know, last year. I think that they were very very heavily reliant on. On the RPO pass game. And it was great for them. And it created a ton of big plays. But the longer the season when they when they face some of the better defenses that had a lot of games on film. There's only so many read you make on those kind of place. So I I think that they'll still have that. But I think we'll see that passing game expanded some other ways as the fall and Foltz next year. Just forgetting what you saw but relying on what you know in terms of the offensive firepower that Alabama has how would you break down, certainly some big big losses. We know that but they're not going to be bear in either. Are they? No, not at all. I mean, you know, they've got. Got again, they've got starters in high level players returning everywhere. You know? So even though they've got to replace a center and another, you know, an all American offensive tackle. They've got starters returning re recruited three outstanding freshman that all enrolled early that all went through spring football and the offensive line. So they'll be fine. They're wide receiver. They've got as good a group is anybody in the country tight end. You know it. It'll be interesting to see if Miller forestall can be the same kind of productive tight end in the passing game. You know that that Irv specialize last year is a very similar kind of tight end. He's not a big overpowering guy at the line of scrimmage and then in the backfield. You know, you lose two great ones. But you've got ninety Harris. Who's kind of waited has turned to be the feature back at Brian Robinson too big physical bags. They've got good ones coming into summer that they recruited so offense. I don't think there's any problems certainly before back death is different than it was last year with Jalen hurts moving onto Norman, Oklahoma. But you know, MAC Joe's played well. And I think he I said this on the air and not only was that good for him. I think it was even better for his teammates to see him for the second year in a row play well in the spring and just kind of send a message. Hey, look to our guy. We hope he stays healthy all year, we can do great things with him. But if I'm needed to play I can run this offense and make some things happen. So offensively they've got what they need. And I would say the same thing defensively they lost great players. But when you have stars returning at each level of your defense, which they have you know, they're in good shape. Ray Kwan Davis, Anthony Jennings. You know on the line of scrimmage you've got Dylan Moses at linebacker. You got exa- Xavier McKinney and return of Trayvon digs in the secondary Patrick's ser tan, I thought. Got better as a year went on. I think he's going to be a star. So, you know, I think they're in really really good shape. All todd. You played on championship teams, you understand the mindset, but it seems like Alabama after going fourteen to know and getting the heated in the championship game that that saving and others have tried to come up with this different mentality being around. There was a lot of new coaches, what did you pick up just from from an attitudinal standpoint for the crimson tide? Yeah. I think that there was a sense that you know, we kind of got away from a few things that that maybe in our preparation, and and we were winning games so handily, and it's it's always harder to make corrections and to really bear down on on demento things when you're winning and winning handily. And you know, that's why you hear Nick Sabin say something that you know, to the average Alabama fan might sound crazy when he says we might have been better off taking the loss at some point before that championship game. Because so that stuff when it got corrected, and and and that's not just coach speak. I mean, it's it's hard to get eighteen nineteen twenty year olds attention all the time to really hone in on your preparation when you're winning games by twenty plus points. And so, you know, I think that that that got their attention, obviously, getting your butt whipped will do that. And that's what happened in the championship game. And so I sent that you know that. There was a kind of an attitude of. Okay. Look that ended up being it's going to end up being good for us. We'll get back to doing things the way we know we want to do them and demand. The things that we know we wanted to mand, you know, I picked that up. Most clearly with a very short conversation with one of those coaches that's new again this year, that's a friend of mine and a guy that I used to play against when he was at Pitt thousand series, you know, it Saudis came up to me on the practice field. And he said, you know, what we're gonna get back to really demanding. What what we really need, and what we really have one out of these guys. And so I, you know, I just think that's the overall attitude. You know, you call it the Bama lay the process, whatever you wanna call it. But you know, they're going to they're going to get it done the way to guy wearing the hat wants it done. And and everybody's going to kind of fall in line with that before you go and ask you about P Golding because certainly was a lot of turnover. He he remains and the defense from. What people say is maybe a little sharper. What will your reflections and thoughts on what you saw from him and talking to him and the defensive side of the ball. I was very impressed with peak Golding ball. I spent some time we had a meeting with him for about twenty five minutes. And then I had the opportunity to go down in his his meeting room or his coaches room. Visit with him personally just one on one for about another twenty five minutes. And you know, he got up on the board and was showing me some things that I had questioned about it. He is very very bright. He's a great teacher. I had heard that about him before I met him at just that time. I spent in his office with him on the board. I could see when everybody, you know, why so many people are high. Why other teams around the country were so hot after him this year? He's a he's a great communicator, a great teacher, a very, very smart guy. And and again, I think we'll see we'll see some different wrinkles out of that Alabama defense. It's still mix savings defense. And Pete knows that, but I think I think Nick has a lot of confidence in in what p brings to the table and. It'll be exciting to see what you know what wrinkles. He adds to that defense. This fall. Todd. Thanks for coming by always always really fun to catch up. And hope you have a good spring, and we will see in the summer. We hope. Sound good talking to you? Thank you very much likely fantastic report. And I heard a lot of people over the weekend say what he said about Golding. He maybe one of those names that you've heard about, but you'll hear a lot more about in the future. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show. Weekdays on the SEC network. Getting clean Easter.

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Hour 1: 4/19/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried pack then patterns re of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Welcome to the end of the week. It is Friday. Good Friday and hope everyone's having a very, restful and peaceful holiday. Good afternoon to you. We have a lot going on when we got here. Monday afternoon. The whole world was talking about Tiger Woods, and one would have thought if you look ahead to the end of the week that would still be the big topic. But what a week this has been think about what has happened in this week. I'm only scientists I've because you all have a tendency to make somebody star it is what it is. Let's don't go down that road after one spring game reacting to the decision by Joel livas reinstate. We'll wait we'll waive Bali why dump it and LA. You know, Pete is done by done that back in around March. Ninth percents coulda Coachella two in the tournament. But what about Rick Barnes? He was leaving. If they have found a better solution on his buyout. You want your coach to be that on St. want to hear that? Maybe this isn't his dream job. A liba is heading toward the door. This comes in the aftermath of a meeting last night between the board of supervisors till ironic that after waited reinstated as you say leave the one that's going LSU had a new athletic record and Scott with. I've always felt like he was gonna leave the wouldn't have to do with money. So that was a wake and it's not over yet. There are some new headlines even today fairly quiet day for most people am has named Archie Slocum coach they once fired. As the interim f let it direct replacing Scott Woodward, who of course was announced official yesterday for. LA shoe? We don't really know what will happen next are see certainly they suitable interim choice. Most people believe that AM. We'll go out and bring in current athletic director to fill that spot on a permanent basis. Meanwhile, Baton Rouge. We'll wade. Unlikely to testify over the wiretaps in the big case next week that could save his job many feared Wade fans feared that if he was on a witness, Dan under oath telling the truth about what was reportedly on that tape. It would be keep it would be difficult to keep his job though, that may not be the case any longer because. Most people in Baton Rouge are willing to look past. What's on that tape? We'll Scott Woodward. The new athletic director be willing to that is the question. You all curvy smart some comments earlier today on the new transfer portal. I don't know what I don't know if that is right for college football. He had a lot to say about that. And this is what it sounded like. I don't know that it's right for CASA ball, and I agree with you. It may be good for an individual basis. But when you give kids and people and easy way out sometimes sometimes they take the path of least resistance, and I'm of the belief you gonna say we'll coach you're free to go where you'd like to go. We also have a contract, and therefore you fire us anytime we won't. So they can fire us anytime. They want us an assistant coach, whereas for student athlete to say that they should be able to go anywhere. I I really believe kick graduates. Now, he should be able to go anywhere. He wants to go, even okay? If he's been there three years because that probably means that he's been there long enough to realize I can't can't play but giving kids away out when early on it's tough and the process is hard. That's the biggest problem. I have a guy can go to one school and then a year later decided to go somewhere else and a lot of times. That's not what's best for you. And you can say it's not my job to determine what's best for him. But at the end of the day, I've seen a lot of kids leave and they realize. The grass is not greener. But I do think quarterbacks unique physician, and I certainly understand it's different. But a lot of these other positions kids just go because that's what they didn't act school. I didn't have immediate success. I just go to the next place. And that hasn't always proven to be best for kids. Curve smart, the spring, and meanwhile, there's some lay breaking news from Alabama that Nick Sabin will undergo surgery to have his right hip replaced on Monday that just being confirmed. Lau Cain who is the team orthopedic surgeon long, Jim Andrews will perform the surgery save an of course is sixty sixty. It'd be sixty he'll be sixty seven sixty eight in October. He said he'd been struggling with one of his hips. And even though they don't make them like they used to most players would not be able to performance spring practice. Like I did with a similar situation. He is decided to get it taken care of moose estimates are that it takes between six and eight weeks to recover fully that doesn't mean you can't get around. But one would think the coach savings normal very active lifestyle will be her tailed at least during the next six. Eight weeks which will end in around early June. So that's the latest headlines. We'll get to your phone calls in a moment at eight five five two four to seven to eight eight five Glenn Gilboa in the latest from. Baton Rouge, where the betting line is changed pretty dramatically in the last couple of hours about will Wade survival most gave him very little chance. But now that he will not have to appear. We don't think in this case in New York, he will likely survive, but with how much damage my Griffith on the Georgia spring game a little bit later on Dr Harris STD's, he's the president of the university of South Carolina. He will join us with an important message. In the wake of some terrible news that occurred in Columbia, South Carolina recently. And we'll spend a lot of time on the AM situation as well. Your phone calls at eight five five to four two seven two eight five eight five five to four to seven to eight five lines are open. Now just want to thank Tony Barnhart for being here yesterday. I spent all of yesterday in Gainesville working on a project and had the opportunity to spend time with coach coach, Dan Mullen in his office. So yesterday morning had a really great conversation with him. And then later in the day likewise with Steve Spurrier who in his new office at the university of Florida with HP see on the outside. He had all of this famous trophies and national championships and football's from important games, including one a couple of weeks ago against Memphis, the Orlando Memphis game one by Orlando. And on the football. It said af champ. Steve Spurrier, even though the league folded, even though they cleared. Bankruptcy is claiming an eight one record in a league championship to round out his career, and he did say I ever tired, and I'm not coaching anymore. So we'll see about that. More phone calls beginning now at eight five five to four to seven to eight five Matt go right ahead. Did not answer Selley go. Right ahead. You're next. Hey, how you doing good? Thank you. Appreciate you. Take him on uncle is my first time calling show. Wonderful. Thank you. I'd actually like to shake it up a little bit and talk about ISIS. See baseball, actually, real quick a lot of people may not realize this. But we really do have like the best conference in entire country baseball, and he gets us little ones like vandy Tennessee's in better this year. And you got all miss and all of them. But like if he's name Mississippi State like and how good they are tell us like you see their second in the nation right now last year, obviously, if you paid attention they made the run all the way, they it a. Cultural series semi's, and they got him guys. And I'd like to key in particularly on one of them because I played in high school with him. Jesse FOSS Q is the guy that doesn't get advertise a lot that he's one of the best kids you could you could be around. It's like how hard he works. Always. He right now is hitting like three fifty in the ACC. And that's crazy. And he's got like him home runs. Mets third in the conference. He simply whole life where he never was Allen to everybody else. But he always worked so much harder. Like he was the guy who get up at three in the morning and go work out give hitting the cage and to do whatever it had to do to get better. And he took some big bets on himself. He was offered like a full ride scholarship to some some other places. But he said, no, I'm better than that. And that was like a big risk that he took it and that paid off for him. And I think in any sport that that's a big deal for people. So I think. Like, he could he could be better than he is totally. Thank you very much. I really do appreciate around. We're up against a break. However guest coming up going Guilbeault the latest on will Wade from Louisiana. Story that won't go away. Glenn will be here to share his views in the latest news right after this. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. We welcome. You back. Glad you're with us. And Gwen Gilboa joining us as always Glynn so much has happened. It seems like every time we talk another bomb has gone off. Let's start if you don't mind with will weigh the news today that that he is not going to be compelled to testify. What do you know about that? And and what does it mean for his at least short term future? At LSU. Well, I think it's good news for we'll wait. But it's it's not as significant as as people think it as if you remember when he was first when word I happened that he may be subpoenaed to testify that was in February. And he he didn't get in any trouble with LSU over that. He was suspended a few weeks later in March because of the comments from FBI wiretaps in the sports story, and those comments still remain very damaging to him, and the NCAA is still going to investigate and and the and he's still involved in that FBI pro but mainland the NCAA now he's been have to testify, but you know, you may not have even had to testify about his recruiter. So that's that's kind of a side like that. He said he's gotten out of this the most important thing with him remain. The Danny comments he made in the story. I get to the next level of that. And that's the emergence now of Scott Woodward as the athletic director realized nobody knows what he's thinking. At least. We don't know what he's thinking in relation to will. Wade. But let's let's hear from you about the week. That was in Baton Rouge. The overthrow of a lever. Not not a surprise. Scott Woodward, joining the LSU athletic department, which did catch many people by surprise. Yeah. I think you know, we talked about a lever last time I was on the show. And I thought a leave of his contract would be extended and he would be done in about a year his contract ends in June of two thousand twenty. I thought you know, they exit him a little earlier than that like six months down the road. So they have time to find somebody, but they did this much quicker, and I can tell you this is this is separate of the entire will wait situation in basketball, this this has been coming on for a while. Donors for two supervisors men members. People closed LSU have been growing in numbers against the leave of he's been there. A long time ten years. It was time for him to retire said, Richard Lipsey who began tiger athletic foundation, and major donor. He had grown tired of Joe alita separate of the will wait situation. And I think what would my apotheosis is. What really tipped this to happen? Now is Scott Woodward became available, and I would bet Scott Woodward didn't wanna wait a year or six months to take over and wait for Jolie to end his contract. I think Scott would wanted to take over now. And I think that's part of what happened. Glen, you're pretty plugged into on there. How do you think this came about? I know that he took the job. But I mean, how how deep does his roots go there, and I'm assuming pretty deep, and and how were they able to pull this off? And then they seem to the seemingly did it. Without anyone knowing what was going on. Exactly. And that never happened around. Phil issue often. You know, we find out what they're doing while they're doing before they're doing it. Because they they can't keep a secret, you know, word leaked out that Mike Archie was going to be fired weeks before he was back in nineteen ninety. You know, word leaked out that Joe Aleve wanted to buy Joel liba that then they wanted to fire less miles a few years ago, and you could be more efficient when you work plan destiny. And that's what L S you did this time and LSU made sure they had Scott Woodward coming then they fired Joe elite or or head them resigned. That's more efficient than fire in your guy. And then going for somebody you get your guy. I then then you move your personnel. We asked you at the beginning what it means for. We'll wait. And I think that is to be determined. But even though the seems unfair to bring it up. I will at orange Ron was hired by Joe Aleve. We know what? Scott Woodward has done in the past, especially at am with two coaches that he inherited what does it mean to doors, Iran? Well, I would be a lot more nervous if I'm real weight than if I'm that. Okay. At ores, Ron it's not in any sort of NPA trouble at all. And he's coming off a great season in which he wasn't suspended during that season. He spent his top six is recruiting going great. His offense. Looks like it might be improving. So, you know, fancy question coaches always would rather their athletic director who hired them or chancellor who hired them be there while they're still coaching. But I don't I don't think coach Jones is is in any kind of trouble because switching athletic directors. I mean from Riva lasted another five years and owes Kodjo started losing, you know, leave it would fire him. So, but I do think, you know, Wade's got a new sheriff in town to to look at his issues. He's the one who should be worried. Okay. Let me let me let me follow up on that as we wrap up. We we've been waiting for today because we would find out today whether or not he testify if he testified then next week was really the benchmark moment. Many believe so now with a new AD who will be formally introduced next week. What are the the key dates to keep in mind or to watch in relation to will wage future? I would say the key thing now for way, he doesn't have to worry about testifying in a trial. That's that's true. But remember this. He was not in any trouble and LSU when he first had testified when that first came out he's used that as an excuse his first lawyer used that as an excuse. So he wouldn't have to talk about the verisign comment. He made in the Yahoo story. That's really why he used that subpoena as a as a recent he just didn't wanna talk about it could've talked about it because he talked about it last week when he still could have test the buck because he got a new lawyer doing he was doing with the NCAA. Okay. But to answer your question. The next thing is is when the NCAA gets around to investigating continuing its investigation and ruling on the sports revelations in if there's any more revelations by that's that's the next thing for we'll wait. The continuation and conclusion of the ongoing investigation of his recruiting. Is there any way to handicap it? I would say, you know, in the short term. He's all right. Just kind of like showing Miller, you know, the new strategies, you I I heard you say this recently, the new strategy toward the NCAA is to is to ride it out. I don't think schools fear, the NCAA like they used to you know, they'll cross that bridge when they get to it. And and there's there's a bunch of other schools involved too. So it might be years before they actually get to will wait. Glenn? Thank you very much busy week in patent Rouge. And it's not over yet. Well, it's over for a little while I think, but you know, Scott Woodward is just a slam dunk high or this. This is the best hire LSU's made athletic since they hide Nick say this, you know, he really should have been hired as a D back in two thousand eight when they hire Jolley, but where he was AD at at Washington. So this was a surprising move by LSU because it makes so much. Many thanks going. We'll talk to you very soon. I'm sure thank you very much. Okay. Going give joining us with some interesting comments there. And I think most people agree LSU's had a series of terrible hires in many different worlds it. It would seem to reason that one of the worst hires the schools ever made was Joe Aleve as director we are up against a break. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five more to come on. Good friday. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We welcome you back. More phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five BRUCE'S in Florida, and you are on the air. Hey, bruce. Hi, how you doing today? We are great. Thank you very much. I just wanna policy is to you for yesterday. I had all that teaches of coming up to the stadium and meeting you but Myanmar I run longer than I thought it was going to and then I had to make a decision whether to go meet you or go to my son's ballgame. So I chose the ladder. Of course. Well, I'm glad you you got through the MRI. And so your kids game. But we had a great time in Florida, as you know, it was a cool eighty nine ninety degrees down there. And it was great to feel the sun again. Yes, sir. And I is is real windy. We had some stores this morning, but it's still turn out to be another beautiful day. What what's your opinion now, Florida? Did it change any after you interviewed? Yeah. I tell you what. One thing I came away from was a lot of confidence, and and that's not unusual being around, Dan Mullen. But he he is confident I think he feels. Things changing and I'm not ready to to make the call yet. But they feel like they've got a really good team down there. Yes. Are you feel like they're dark darkhorse yet? Yeah. I think so I mean, I just personally I don't think they're quite ready to take to to not Georgia off. But I I would say this. They're pretty close. I'll watch the youngest caller you've ever had on. What I think we've had five or six year old calling in. I don't think I don't think we've had a younger than that. I've got a three year old wants to say, hey, well, let's let's break the record right now. Bruce, go ahead. Hey, hey, buddy. What's your name? Oh. Charlie. Thank you a what's going on. What are you doing today? We're facing fishing. Holly is is brother got him. My fourteen year old got him a rod and reel, and we're going up to a foreign bond and these a patient alternate. We'll Bruce thanks hope. Hope the test won't. Well, you guys have a great time today. All right. Thank you. You got a good to hear from you. Thank you, very very much. Don is up next in Mississippi? Hello, don. How you doing? Good friday. Good friday. Thank you. Yes. My my question or my answer. What I've tried to get a is. How does the man leave a prominent college and one conference to go to another one when your house there's a head prominent person? I am talking about Bobby bowing being house or that. I would say he was ousted by JIMBO Fisher. Don, let's set some context there JIMBO is hired as a coach in waiting for Bobby Bowden. Bobby Bowden continued to coach many people believe past when everyone thought he would step down. And ultimately, I don't think JIMBO cost him his job. I think Bobby Bowden's a in Bobby Bowden's last couple years, we're pretty pretty bad. But hell he won't it. After after it was over it JIMBO took over. He he come out and said that I'll he asked for was one year. He wouldn't go do nothing to sidestep for you know, hurt, JIMBO. But they did it the way I understand it JIMBO was the one that started eased him out of that job. And then he's going to tell everybody when he was going bad at Florida state hanging the guys good, and he'd be trade the trader and they don't listen. No. Let's let's talk about the facts. Okay. Jimbo Fisher didn't cost Bobby Valentine his job. We're I'm telling you good. Your feet don't leave. What what what tell you what Bobby Bowden's last five years? They were eight and five seven and six seven six nine four, and it was six years and and seven and six JIMBO Fisher took over anyone a national championship. Bobby was not going to win a national championship. And I don't think this argument about you're entitled to call your own finish is ridiculous. Well, you know, listening to their parents. He's going to be the the new emperor of Florida state. He stay there. Forever. You the main? Yeah. Right. I hope Texan EM gets their butt kicked by everybody. CC? Doesn't look like that's going to happen on. But thanks for sharing your thoughts. Anyway, call JIMBO a traitor. What about that, man? You think jimbo's trader? All the time when people oh, JIMBO with a traitor. He destroyed for this day. It's enough already to that guy. He didn't he didn't destroy Florida's bait. Bobby Dowden was a good coach in in. He did destroy for to St Paul eve wasn't into coast towards the end that guy. I'm sorry. They bummer is one thing. Shut up. Stop complaining already. And I wanted to talk to him. Now. He ended the conversation saying I hope he gets his butt beat out there. That's not gonna happen. Do sorry go crying wind to somebody else. But I wanted to talk to you about our athletic director, going LSU, Paul all I'm worried about this because what happened in two or three years from now if the oath you coast doesn't work out and they try to go after JIMBO Fisher Chebbi worried, Paul. I don't know mad. I will tell you and. It's a body blow to Texas A and M. I thought they had one of the best athletic directors in the country and Scott Woodward. He was running that operation brilliantly. I don't know why. He bailed out other than to go back home. I respect the man he's a good athletic director. I get east from there. I think you homesick I respect that. But I'm just worried about the fact that ultra does a workout then come after JIMBO Fisher nut worries meal a bit all well. I think listen, Matt, I don't think that's going to happen. But. I'm beyond trying to predict the sleaziness of college athletics. Okay. Okay. But I. I don't know. How you hire? Somebody in in two weeks later, you leave. I I would really like to get buzz Williams view of of of what Scott Woodward told him. Yeah. Was well, but I've never few questions. I wanna ask you today. I would also like to know, honestly, not corporate athlete BS. When this one was the first time that some back channel conversation began between LSU and Scott Woodward. How long ago was it? I sincerely doubt. It was the other day. There's no way you can pull something like this off without a lot of planning with a lot of conversation. Thank you for the call. Do. Appreciate it. Pete is in Chattanooga. How are you? Pete. Hey, I'm good Cole. How you doing? We're doing great. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Yeah. Obviously bit me to the punch. But obviously, you're on the the Florida campus yesterday. I'm just a question to you. Obviously debit Sweeney on the riots with all the chain fifty getting over Clinton. And now you've got Dan Mullen, pushing the pushing the envelope in Florida. NBC a real swing pets have been in the closet with Florida and kick the him just with the recruiting by them, Florida and take this with the one play is just say no to get out of the state to maybe just Alabama. And I mean these are dumped from program right now. But do you think that could be the demise of Ella? Bama next. I think the the issue for saving is is not so much Clemson or AM or Florida. It's how long is he going to be there? And right. Yeah. You can you can have hip surgery, and that's not going to really answer the question in and I'm not trying to make too much out of someone's age because we've seen coaches make sure chef ski seventy one or two years old, and he was number one in the country most of the season. It's it's it's really trajectory and the neighborhoods getting crowded. I mean, JIMBO Fisher is a threat Mullen is a threat, but I think the person that has ripped Nick Sabin system off and has perfected more than anyone is really dabbled Sweeney. And and that's how much that he's ripped savings basic blueprint. But what he's done is something that saving cannot do. And that is keep a coaching staff together to have continuity to pay them enormous. Sums of money and get them to stay Nick saban's biggest weakness as a football coach has been keeping his staff intact. And you look at the changes that have occurred recently, you went from curvy smart who was there for eleven years to Jeremy Pruitt who was part of that system a couple of different times. And now, I mean you've got to look in. You've got to you've got to look in your Alabama yearbook to figure out who's coaching. What position especially at the critical position of of defensive coordinator in the offense coordinator ship has been laughable of circular door it I mean, there's no way. I mean, you hire a guy who bails on you before he even takes over. There's already some concern about. House how Steve Sarkissian is going to fit in and you can you can say, well, you got the best coach in the country. But I I've talked to a number of head coaches some in this league, and they will say that it will hurt. I it's not like it's going to catch up to you. And you're gonna have a lousy season. But at Alabama a bad season is not winning the title. We'll catch up to you. When you face a program like Clemson. And it did it did. I mean, give me a reason why clemson's going to fall off a any other than losing the the kind of players they have lost. But Alabama's losing an equal number of players. Right. It's just a slow Rosen. Yeah. Ultimate one day. Just suddenly you look down. You've lost a game. You're not supposed to and then you lose another one. I mean, I watched it. I watched it. I covered the end the coach Bryant's regime. He was number two in the country. On October seventeenth. He lost his last four games or or I think he lost four of his last five games. I mean, all of a sudden the dam breaks, and you can't you can't stop it. Thank you for the call. Really do appreciate we're up against the break. More to come a lot to do on the program. Some very important guests. We'll talk about Nick savings hip surgery. Yes. It is scheduled for Monday. No tell no live television that I'm aware of president hero Harris festivities will join us from the university of South Carolina a little bit later on in more of your phone calls. After those listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're with us here on Friday after noon, let's grab some more calls in James his next in Baton Rouge, James. All our you. Well, thank you. Of just wanting to get your thoughts about how LSU handle the Joe alita situation. Well. Pretty badly. If you if you ask my opinion, which you did I mean, I think there could have been a more diplomatic way of doing it. But it seemed like it was necessary. I might have given a leave a chance to you know, how out a little more gracefully. But these things are hard to pull off. Right. Also have one more question for you, Paul. How much of a lease you think coach oh will have with this new athletic director coming over from Texas. Am James I think it would be about as cut and dried as you can get it if he wins he'll be fine. If he doesn't he'll get fired. So you think three or four losses all getting? Well, listen. No. I think I think it's all a matter how you measure up to expectations. I mean look at Kevin someone Kevin someone never had a terrible season. He just didn't meet expectations and Woodward fired him, and I think if. Like this year. If you know the expectations are top ten if you know if he goes eight and four I think he'll be in trouble. Yeah. I do too. Pulmonary think he's going to short that's one that. I I'm always amazed at and I know that mean meal issue was what we're that lets you. I mean, they were they played for the championship two years ago. Didn't they last last year? I'm trying to remember where had they finished last year. I know they were they were good. Yeah. We were good last year came in with the number one recruiting class. Yeah. Well, listen. I mean there there's no tougher baseball fans in the SEC that LSU fans, but I I don't know. I can't answer that one. Because I don't know how I mean. I know we're we're certainly knows the importance of baseball at LSU he went there. But that would be a tougher one for me to answer than than than ores. You're on. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, you LSU baseball coach that that's one of the hottest seats. You lose a game. And you're on the hot seat down there. Hey, thanks for the call a great to hear from you. Dan is in Louisiana. Hello, dan. Thanks a lot Paul great to have you on yesterday. Well, I understand Tony did quite well. I love Tony bone heart. I always writing. Anyway, I've got a couple of questions I like to drink big. And maybe you can help me out. I hope you don't dash all my hoax. But every since we'll wait situation, I've had my own crispier. And also with JIMBO Fisher, why wouldn't he come to LSU and other any you know out to aspects of him coming in. It's background. Round or your career? Well, let me let me get to Chris beard. I, you know, I I don't know where his contract situation is with tech. But I cannot believe he would leave there right now. I mean, Jim JIMBO just signed a seven year contract. And he's building a program. You know, would he be interested in LSU Coursey would've if Joe Aleve ahead and been so Joel leva hadn't been so arrogant and stubborn JIMBO Fisher would be the coach at LSU today. But you know, he wouldn't budge on on money, and and he lost JIMBO Fisher. So he lost them twice. The first time was the time. He should have gotten them though. He had he had them. He had them done. He had them are pretty much agreed then then they then he held off on money, and they lost them over my mind from what I'm told a pretty pretty small amount of money. But I wouldn't I wouldn't give JIMBO Fisher much thought. I really wouldn't. I mean, I think he's he's building a program at AM. And I would be very surprised if he remotely thought about LSU again. Okay, there is there anything in his background of how he grew up where you grew up of JIMBO, right? That that would you know? Yeah. Yeah. There there is quite a bit. I mean, JIMBO I think JIMBO is from West Virginia and jimbo's. Jimbo was Nick savings offensive coordinator when you when he won the national championship. Okay. You know, sides ads say any ties that he might have to LSU. Yeah. Listen hitting. Coat hitting their whether no he's not he's from he's from West Virginia. But he lived there six or seven years, and he knows the state quite well, he recruited I think he re recruited it when he was at it AM, excuse me at Florida state. Listen, I get where LSU fans are. But I'm sure that's going to be one of the first things got Woodward addresses. And I bet he makes it pretty clear statement about JIMBO Fisher because it's really not fair to hire somebody, and then you leave there and try to hire him somewhere else. We are up against a break. Couple more hours to go on Good Friday.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the Capital One sabre card earned four percent cash. Back on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. Cried passion and patterns re of college football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Welcome. We've made it to. Yes. The middle of the week draft day is tomorrow. We'll talk a lot about that this afternoon. We'll have other stories as well. Welcome to Wednesday. Let's start with some headlines that me interest, you key figure in the hoops trial. This is going on in New York. Remember, this was the one we'll way was supposed to testify. He is not going to details. Football payments. He mentioned with some specific specificity Penn State. He mentioned a number of other schools were payments took place, including the university of Alabama the school has dismissed it. And since they were no names of players. It's hard to take it too. Seriously, just yet. But again, the trial is underway. And they're already been some bombshells today, especially involving the university of Arizona basketball program. So we'll keep our eyes on that story to see anything else develops. Jimbo fisher. Sorry. Sorry about that JIMBO Fisher on Texas AM, I plan on being here long time as saying that he saying that because his boss and the man who convinced him to come. There has left. Billy lucci. Got the interview. I love Gus Gus gonna do a great job. I wish him well all but one game every year. He's he's at LSU now. But at the same time this in this business, change happens. But you don't people can introduce you to a place induces somebody. There's a lot of guys that I've talked to in. Visit and say, hey, would you like to come here and work, and I haven't went. Yeah. Scott was one of the reasons that I came out here as far as the introduction the in the comfort level I had with him. But after being here, it's places phenomenal and plan on being here. Longtime a love the people. I love the direction we're going to love the commitment. They have to excellence here in all phases of for for kids, personally, academically athletically, and of course, the network and the ring after ball, I think this place is a very very unique place, and I plan on being here. A long time I wished gotten those guys the best, but we're here to do job. I was hired to do a job. I'm extremely happy. Or people ask me, you know, an interview the other day said when did you finally feel comfortable and I've thought about? It and my answer was I never felt uncomfortable. Really? And I haven't been since I've been here. I think this place fits my personality. I'm very I love the people. I love what's here and planning on being here long time, and we got a job to do. So now wish them the best. But we're gonna we're gonna find a grandmother great athletic director because this is a phenomenal place, and we're gonna go on championships. And do the thing we're going to do. But my county show I'm gonna be here. A long time three separate times in that one interview. I don't know what his definition of a longtime is but sounds like he's going to be there. A long time to move on. We're all behavior a long time to you. Now, we're all along time is four hours. You can say, Dan what you want? Who know anyway, I think you get you get the message number guess, including Chizik he'll talk about the draft. Michael Wandera on the history of certain SEC schools. Fascinating conversation deebo Samuel where will he end up and booger McFarland? He was a top round draft pick a number of years ago twenty years ago. The Monday night football guru will join us with his take on what will happen in Nashville. But I your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five longtime. I'm over here longtime. Let's get to the calls and Bruce who's been waiting not that long joins us. I however is good afternoon. I'm hey doing. We are great. Thank you. I would just go. Let's get my opinion two gentlemen who call from Georgia yesterday. It was complaining about eight eight game and said it was interrupted by softball game. Correct. When it comes right down to it who really cares about a meaningless two hand touch football. Eight eight game. I would much rather watch something more significant like those young ladies poor their hearts out for the heart sweat, but they put into. What call? Yes, sir. Audio's amigos mad is up next. Matt who who was last on this show involved in a street fight with Jim from Tuscaloosa? Jameis friend, Matt. We were sitting around the office today and marquee Biak wasn't here yesterday. But he he caught the show, and he was impressed with your your ability to handle Jim met. You knocked them out. Thank you. I hold the whole make sure that that was was that, Hugh, Mark. Mark. I'm sorry about that. I get named mixed up. I which is a no that's all right. Just wanna make sure that I I saw that. And I was so impressed. He didn't back down. Jim tried to bully you you just Kayode them. And that's what happens return. So, you know, he's a little rusty on it, but good job, Matt. Oh, well, Mark. I'm not sure we're completely agree with your assessment of the the way that went down or commentated dominated. It was like January seventh all over again. It's tough Paul. You know, we're we're live on the show, and it's happening. And we don't have that bird's eye view. Like Mark, did you know, he he's a he's an unbiased viewer of the program. And you look at you hear that feedback. And I tend to believe what he what he's saying here. I thought you yourself pretty well. I'm not sure you I I'm not sure I'm gonna take this to a. Yeah. To to the degree that QB act did but bit anyway, let's let's move on with the show. Well, I one time about JIMBO Fisher in Texas football, Paul. Okay. Well, I think Jim officiated stated by staying in football and kill him on was fought on. I think kill him on his development this year. And last year. I like what I saw in this spring football game. Cal Monto coming in very good quarterback under JIMBO Fisher system. Only cow. Jim officiers Louis developing him into rigid quarterback. And I want is your thoughts on the fall. Well, thank you for the call, Matt. I think kellyn is one of the best quarterbacks coming back this year in the good to hear from you. Harry is in New Orleans, always great to talk to you, Harry. Good afternoon, Paul. I had a comment and a question, Mark. My my quick comment is I think that and I very rarely do this. So mentioned another call, but I'll feel compelled say that I think Matt Handal Jim with reckless abandon. And Secondly, my question is on granddaughter asked me, I said, I'm gonna have this fall. She said, well, what does it mean? When Mr. Jim said that your a a panel Paul finebaum pill. I'm gonna say this carefully a pope a proper upper. Yeah. You know? I said, I really don't know. But she'll Paul can decipher. Yeah. I took it as a compliment. I don't I'm not sure that's how it was intended. But I have I find are convert for your granddaughter's sake. I find our conversations to be engaging and very professional. And and I think he was just jealous. Well. Anyway, Paul on with the show. And I'm looking forward today show, you you have a good show. Great to hear from you. Thank you, very very much. I'm an chiming in early on this Wednesday say beautiful day. Paul thanks for taking my call. Thank you. You know might have to go with Mark and John on this met deal. Matt comes in. And he's always thinking about eighty nam, JIMBO Fisher. And he says you so I think I think I think and in Jim comes in and tries to masquerade behind him like the backstabber that he is. And without missing a bait. Never even considering what you ate turned around and poked him in. Now MO did Larrea curly Joe. And that was it that was it, though, fella come back, and and don't list don't give him and say, he's Lou rest, easy, and all those kinds of things. He's been out there hollering at the world screaming it won't stay quit doing any of that. He's not rusty at nethon. Matt took him downtown Paul and made him get on the bus for day. And I don't mean to I don't want to feel like I have to be gyms. So let's go. But I think there's this is just a an unfair gang up of Jim from snow. Not. No, it's not listen. He he's the one that comes in steps in. He's the one that pours it on the table. And he's the one that's supposed to aid it and clean it up. And he can't do it jam can't tote. The would he can't can't stop three. They can't tell the store. He case stay focused these too busy damn Whitten. So quit coming in here. And that can lock you going be some some kind guy 'cause you such a sweet, man. I mean, don't come in here and try to take for they'll fella he bit off more than they can chew. And you know, it, and I know it John Matt everybody knows everybody saw everybody heard it bowl. It was live all over the world in parts of the universe. Have martians or last in gym? Have a good day. Thank you. Time for break. We are going to head to the woods here for just a moment. Gene, physical. Join us shortly to preview tomorrow night's draft. And then more of your phone calls as we continue booger McFarland in the final hour listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. We continue to look ahead tomorrow night. The biggest night of the year for a lot of college athletes, the NFL draft in Nashville and gene Chizik joining us. And I want to look ahead coach. But I I want to look back you you were a I'm assuming it was New York. You can't remember when you had the number one player chosen, I'm interested in two thousand eleven what that experience was like for you. And obviously your program New York Paul is a really interesting dynamic now, they've moved it around. So it's in Nashville, and I get that. But just the NFL draft experience. It's it's something to behold, and look you're sitting back in a room back there. And you have all these guys who've been told. That they're going to be first round draft picks. I mean unequivocally every one of these dudes are going in the first round, right? Some of them think they're going one through five someone think they're going five through ten in all said you get to round fifteen and sixteen in that guy that thought he was in rounds. One through the first pick one through four he doesn't get picked. And now you're on pick number sixteen seventeen. It's amazing the anxiety level. You know, you just see guys come out and shake hands and put the hat on and smile, you have no idea what's going on behind there. It is. It's really intense, and it's incredible. But it's a phenomenal experience for those guys that get invited every coach you wish every coach college coach could go and really experienced that. Because it is something to behold, and I mean they have made draft day. Well, look at all the TV shows. There's you know, we did one earlier today here on the SEC network. I mean, nobody can get enough football. So draft day has. Come bigger and bigger and bigger over the years. And and but but that experience especially on day one of the draft. It's pretty special. Ed, you prepare your players when you when you were coaching because you don't have to worry about it with Cam Newton. You do he was going. But some guys like you said, I mean, it it it can be the worst night of their life. It really can Paul. And I think is a coach your job is to share reality with them. Because here's the problem. These guys go it look they play their last game with you. So let's say it's the ball game. Right. That's early January if you're lucky right late December, and they're gone. Because nowadays, you know, how it is. They're going to go get a trainer they're going to go to Arizona. They're going to go to Florida they disappear because now they gotta go and get their training in these trainers that they do a very good job of preparing them for the draft. But I think sometimes the problem is there's a lot of other people in their ears that aren't necessarily really in touch with reality. In terms of where this guy mayor. Or may not fit. That's where the problem comes in. Because they're being told whether it be an agent with her trainer. Hey, look, you know, you're a no brainer. First round pick. You know, like, I know on draft day. There's a bunch of guys that get disappointed because they thought they were or somebody told them they were going to be a first round draft pick and they're not someone follow the third round. And so you got those dynamics going on. So what we tried to do is coaches is really stay in communication with these guys when they were out training when they were out with these guys every time they came back to campus. We definitely want to talk to them about. Hey, realistically. What are you thinking? Well, you know, and you don't you don't ever want to be the be the guy that the bearer of bad news. But in the same sense, you can say, hey, we'll look now you're going to get a great shot. No matter what. And listen, you know, you think you're late first round or even if you're late second round or doesn't matter. You're still going to make your money you're still gonna play for long time. So you really try to do your best because you know, these guys better than everybody. No better than their trainer, you know, them better than their agent. And you hope that you have that report with them without actually listen to what you're saying. You know, because we want the best for them in in looking ahead to tomorrow night. And certainly a lot of this has been ground that we've already plowed, especially you at the show as you look at the SEC players, we know who's projected high. I mean, if you you've been affiliated with NFL clubs. I mean, if there's one guy that you would have to take of the ones that are projected go in the first round who's who is the one that you would trust the most Quinton Williams, and look that's gonna probably be the standard answer. But I can back it up with factual information Paul I noticed in the second week of the season. And to be honest with you going into the season. I I never really heard of nobody. I mean, he was on the roster, and you know, but he was spot player. And there are so many other great players in front of him the year before and I watched him in game two. And I remember coming back to the studio that sad. Today. And I said, you know, who the best defensive lineman in the country is it's this dude right here because Auburn had all those great players to remember going into the season. We're talking about Derrick Brown and Marlon Davidson and rightly so this guy was better. And as you watch him Volve, he's a game changer. He plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage. He plays hard like you can tell he loves the game. You know, this guy as the season went on. Everybody knew he was the best defensive player on the field. And they still couldn't block him. They still can't block this guy. This guy had fifty two pressures directly in the quarterback's face. The next closest interior defensive linemen in the country is eleven that's a their eleven under that this guy any changes it in the run game. He's going to force people to make the center turn to him and protection where they got to put a center and a guard on him. Because if you put a guard on him, you make your money in the NFL rushing the passer, that's where you. Make your money. You're gonna sign your millions that way if you leave him one on one with a guard. He six four almost six four. He's three five three ten. He'll be three twenty five is as he gets a little older three twenty. You can't block him one on one. And that's where he's going to be a game changer. In terms of the quarterback situation. Lock is the one. Everybody's talking about your sentiment of him. I think he's got a great upside. I think one of the best things that happened for him. Paul was dared Dooley. I really believe that that Derek came in. And he made him go through the reeds very similar to what he will see in the NFL in terms of progressions. I think this offense this year. He he he was a quick study. I think it took him a little bit to pick it up. And then is he picked it up. He became very productive as a season went on. I think he can make all the throws. I think he can step up in the pocket. I think he's more. Athletic maybe than people think he is at six foot four. I think he's got a great upside. Now one thing that I will say in talking to NFL guys. Sometimes his decision making is in question. He he's thrown Twenty-one interceptions in two years. That's a lot interceptions right for first round pick. But some of it was you know, he he's in different schemes and things, but that is that is that is a little bit in question. But I think he's got all the tools that everybody's looking for in an NFL quarterback in. And again, I think this one year with Derek Dooley. And a pro more of a pro style offense helped him. Finally, you mentioned the scene that we will see tomorrow night, but the real drama goes on behind the scenes. Yeah. And I'm sure as someone who's put a lot of players as an assistant and as a head coach in the NFL. How crazy is it today were twenty twenty eight hours away from the draft. I mean there you would think everyone knows what they're doing. But we know that they don't it's straight pandemonium. It's like the duck that you don't see the the the feet under the water. I mean, it's pandemonium and low Paul this isn't a this, isn't it is not an exact science, right? So these guys think they know, but they don't know you have families there. You got you. I've watched players get stressed out because they're not sure if aunt and uncle and grandma and grandpa got on the flight to get there. You know, what I mean, there's there's all these things happening because this is a family fair if you've been invited there as a player, it's a family affair, you got people coming from everywhere. But what are you locked in on your lock that you want to be the highest drafted guy on the board? Right. But you got all these other factors out there. And all these other people pulling at you. And it's a great time. But it is a hectic time for everybody. And look if. Everybody knew exactly where they're gonna land. It'd be easy. Right. But that's just that's not the way it happens on this day. And then it never fails there. There's the drama of the last day something comes out about someone that sends the entire board upside down. Yeah, it's crazy because you know, some of that is planted some of that is by design. There's means to the madness on some of that. So if a team really wants, you know, Joe, and you know, they want him six six picks. They got six picks earlier than the team that they think's going to take them. You know, there's just jockeying for position on you know, how do we make this guy? Fall little bit to us. You know is there way. And unfortunately, you'd hate to say that that happens, but there's a lot of strategy in this on these guys in these teams, and how you know things will be get out there about a guy and particularly in the eleventh hour when you thought you don't see guys. I unfortunately, tomorrow, you're gonna see guys stock-fall they're gonna fall, and it was going to wonder why. And then they're going to wonder who to blame. You know what I mean? Unfortunately, we see that every year, but it truly is a game in it's a strategic game. And it'll be played tomorrow night. Great stuff a coach, thanks for dropping by house. Thank you coaching Chizik dropping by the set to talk about the draft. We will take a break much more to come on this Wednesday. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're with us. Sheriff is up next. Hey, Paula got things on ask you about. What a nobody's made mitch's Josh shake or Jeffrey semblance in the strap. I think of them. For them that they weren't at both just mentioned. Well, we just showed them on the mock board. Yeah, they're both projected to go in the first round. Okay. And then what about this west and baseball? I this will turn out. I think it's up for grabs. You got got a big series this weekend. Is you know? Yeah. My question to you is this and I don't mean to take anything away from the SEC race. But. Does it really matter who wins the west or who wins the the SEC period? No. No. Anyway, that's right. Okay. And then you want to do and I'm not a baseball expert. But I do know enough. Are you want to do is is host to re host a super regional? Don't you? I think you're right right there. And then when this LSU deal is talked about tax evasion on the money. The tax evasion. Yes. No. I haven't thought about that. What's what's the deal? I'm just saying that is somebody's money that I give somebody somebody's you have to pay tax on the money. Well, I mean, it doesn't seem like anybody. Really what what money you talking about since the school seems to be fully supportive of. We'll we'll Wade. Yeah. Well, I guess I gotta do AD. I guess if keepers out. Yeah. He said he he's he's behind them right now. Yeah. Well right now. That'd be all. Exactly. What was he's our coach until he's not. Yeah. Well, I would. We'll wait is probably holding his breath right now watching this trial going on in New York. Shawn Miller who is will Wade's running buddy here in terms of bad citizenship. At least allegedly got got got tagged pretty good in testimony. And that could that could happen to anyone right now. Hey, thanks for the call. Appreciate it very much. Dan is up next in Louisiana. Hello, dan. Hi, paul. Thanks. We time. And don't thank you. Oh as every day can be debris curious overseas. Okay. It's it's up to you. Well, take your pick today. I rather you be curious. Okay. Paul. I'm kind of like wrong from Texas. I find it hard to believe that anybody would take the LSU a job without knowing in advance. You know, what they want to do with? We'll wait I'll parties at LSU. Well, Dan, the only thing I would say about that is. I guess my guess is. It's got Woodward has a pretty good idea. But I don't think that would be a game-breaker or dealbreaker because he wanted that job badly. It's it's his hometown to alma mater, and I think that trumps everything else. Okay. Okay. That. That's reasonable. You know, the non words that that I heard were in a hurry. And he's our coach till he's not you don't then encourage me. Yeah. I don't think Scott really gave away very much yesterday other than he did not offer what I would consider to be Sherman esque supportive of we'll wait. And by the way, there's no way you can because we'll wait may may skate. And I I mean that skate or he may get blown up this week. I mean, that's how that's how precarious situation is. Right. Well, I think you know, writings on the wall will wait got the new lawyer to you know, to salvage his career, I believe, and I believe LSU, well Lee. Dan. I think I think the hiring Scott Woodward might may have been the key over after all. I don't believe tell me if you do that. Joe Aleve had any thority at the end. I think he was being told what he couldn't couldn't do. And I believe that when the decision to bring we'll way back was made it was made collaboratively because he agreed to meet with them and knowing that's got Woodward was about to get executed. They probably said, okay. Let him come back. We'll we're bring in Scott Woodward. Anyway, I'm sure that's what the president was saying to whoever the booster. That's calling all the shots down there and let him deal with it. So I I don't read anymore into will Wade being back today than I did him being gone a month ago. Okay. You know, I think the arguments they were having internally might have been part of the time delay. But I don't know, you know, I don't know nothing. Well, listen, I think this this trial in New York. It was always the key. I think they were led to believe by Wade's attorney that Wade would probably not be testifying. And I think that's understandable. But you just don't know what happened today about an hour ago. New York may have opened the door to bring Shawn Miller in his witness. And if he comes in as a witness, he's Zona coach, it's possible. Wade will walk in the door as well. I don't know. I mean, I'm not in the courtroom. I'm sitting here in the studio. Right, right. Okay. Paul. I just. Okay. We will continue to watch it. Thanks for the call. Good to have you on. And Wade is an open Leica Hilo way. Thanks for the call. First time caller. All right. Thank you. Just a couple of comments about. Yeah. You gotta last week talking about the top quarterbacks in the SEC next year. And he mentioned the guy contests collusive some them fan. Of course. I next saw like you. Hugh school name. But anyway, he mentioned the guy and Tesco's and dad Jay column over Georgia. But I think he failed to mention Jacob Bailey. Saka thankfully, torched the Clemson defense. Well, you know, wait. It's interesting. You mentioned Jay Bentley. I don't know quarterback at least perceptively whose stock has fallen more than he entered last season with so much optimism, and he had a pretty average year. And I think the way it ended has caused many to wonder now I thought I thought the the Clemson game was impressive. But the bowl game was not. So I think he's certainly capable being among the upper echelon quarterbacks don't you? Thinking I should do up on Frank Sana Florida who was Dan. He did with that Prescott. And right and Tibo before that, I think we shouldn't give up Franks and only got Tennessee Keio Georgtown rat cage. Capable. Possibly hate to run. We're having a little reception. Trouble. We have a lot lot to do today and a long way to go. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five is our number program note Friday, Danny Sheridan will join us with some odds on the longevity of Nick Saban at Alabama. You may want to tune in Friday afternoon right here. We're up against a break. More of your calls more guests right after this to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast wouldn't tracking the domestic dust bunny. You come to find them hiding under wardrobes next to Las soaks due to suddenly villa scarring off what's up the fascinating about the dust bunny is that although they are not actually sent creatures when the Kyko not only saves people money, but also has a ninety seven percents customer satisfaction rating. It's obvious to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Oh, no. It's the dust bunnies. Only natural Prentice on the lung dust on his run along. So we're. Back. Glad to have everyone here. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five and TNT's in Baton Rouge. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey, how you doing? We are great. Glad to have you on. Thank you. Hey on the hip replacement for. Coach saving. Did you ever follow up and kept with the Berkman? And about these experience with the surgery because I have not a chance to know that was good petty verdure. Of course, he had every intention to continue coaching. But I think he found out it wasn't as easy. And I was wondering, you know, that angle ever occurred when well, yeah, listen, that's why I think would save doing here is is somewhat artificial TNT because listen, the most important thing, I I've never had any major surgery along these lines. But, but I know enough orthopedic surgeons the most important thing for anyone who has orthopedic surgery. Is the rehab. It's to that. That's what you have to. Do. You have to you have to start it as quickly as possible. And that's why I didn't really, you know, pay too much attention to the picture of saving at work this morning at six thirty because I can guarantee you he wasn't there very long because that is you have to be very careful the the immediate days after something like this are critical at stir the oh. The oh the blood clot possibilities. And you know, I don't know if saving really by doing all this. I mean, I'm not sure what he's accomplishing to me. I if I have if I had hip surgery today, I am I thinking do I need to twenty two run back to work. I I think you'd better you'd better be wise about it. And I'm not sure proving everyone that you're still able to get around is the answer. The most important thing is to be fully recovered. Well, I think he understands the optic of showing no recovery, and let me say this on the on the history of the surgery. It has come a long way. Absolutely. I think he would benefit from the updates. But anyway, just calling and thanks for letting me talk. Yeah. And the one thing we didn't see we didn't see we didn't see we saw picture. Yeah. I think I think if you're the president United States you'd probably want to let the world know that you're healthy. I don't think she really I think I think I think we could've I frankly think we we would have all been fine. If if we hadn't seen the picture of saving duck at work today. I don't think it's going to change one recruits mine, I don't think it's gonna change anyone's mind. It's just it's Nick Sabin. I think really showing his vulnerability quite frankly that he's concerned about it. And instead of acting like I'm Nick Sabin. I don't really care what anyone thinks it doesn't matter. How old I am. I'm still the best. Coach. I don't have to proved anyone that I can be at work this morning, quite frankly. Most people don't go back to work two days after hip surgery RJ is in Kentucky, and you are next up. Hello RJ. Hello, paul. How's it going? It's going great. Thank you very much about the quarter quarterback situation, and Layton with gonna hope transfer algae is going to be a little hard on Grant Connell play Colin 'cause I guess you won't run into much really. Terry wilson. Yeah. No. It's a good question. I think it leaves UK pretty vulnerable. Yeah. Because you know, that's his strength is running. Absolutely. So I just wanted you think eighty grain we'll have to do this year. Well, I think listen, I Don, I don't know what the depth chart looks like do you who's agreeing? Yeah. I mean, so he he better be pretty careful. I appreciate college. A Doug is in Arkansas. You're next up a died. Bomb? Thank you for taking my call. Thank you. I can time caller. I love your show. And I love what you do for this PC. Thank you very much, Mr. bomb. I just heard you and coach Chizik discussing the NFL draft and stories that come out before before the draft on players. I was watching the NFL line show prior to year show coming on just you know, the while ago, they dropped the line about Montesquieu wet having a heart condition. Have you heard anything about that? Mr feinban. No, I have not I didn't see the show. So I must have missed it. They didn't show full disclosure of what the heart problem was. But I'm just wondering if this is a team that's trying to get Montesquieu with to drop down later in the first round. So that they can pick him up. Well, it's entirely possible. But it seems to me that if you're thinking about drafting montage, you you would you would know his his his history. Pretty well. By this by this point in time little shooting that have already come out prior to or after the NFL combine it should have. And maybe they maybe maybe this goes to exactly what she's talked about. Somebody dropped it out there with the intent of devaluing him. So they can get him later in the draft. Okay. Mr bomb. Thank you for your time, sir. Thank you very much. Great to have you on let's move along. And Dwight in Augusta Georgia you're on the air. Hey, dry, very call cruciate. The toll today was a pretty pretty wild here and a couple of weeks ago tiger winning. I didn't get to go this year because the tight the tickets were badges were pretty pricey. But. I wanted to. I wanted to talk about. Oh, you there. Yeah. Of course. Do I? Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's a there's a office. Anyway. Did you watch the spree? Hey, I have seen some clips of it. I have not seen it start to finish. Not not you get all worried about what's going on in their happens. But from you just kind of how to sink, and I don't know if that's what the offense coordinator going to Tennessee or or whatnot. But you know, when you lose a coordinators. Can be pretty tough to Julius. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a listen. I don't know what you can draw into that spring game. And we'll talk to some more people. Maybe my griffis can join us and give us his objective assessment of the game. Yes, sir. And then my wife say already talked about is the the former state spring game actually a lot better than a lot of Knowle fans. Talk with a prowls running the show Integris just floating in all the play colon. They look fast tempo type or Hindu oth with Kelly layers. And I remember, maybe there's something that they're, you know, can come out to they're still there's still a lot of talent left on that tune the recruiting right now, we're I think we're seven or six in the nation. But you know, I think this there can be some games worn this year that and keep them around. And join the he'll jump in here. We are up against the end of the hour. Three more to go. Hope you'll stick around.

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"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter hybrid cloud approach. Ibm helps banks personalized experiences with watson while helping keep data secure. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibkr dot com slash. Hybrid cloud cried passion than pageantry of college. Football leaves here. The paul finebaum show our three podcast. Luckily back it has been a busy show already a lot of reaction to this. Lsu story and i know we're we're focusing primarily on less mild. There's a lot more to it. It just so happens that The revelation today that The school was was was close to firing him in twenty thirteen as But the universe but the board would not go along with it has certainly been the headline but it. It is unclear where the story goes from next. The department of education will continue. Its title nine. Investigation so For those of you who are late to the show. I understand You know it's five o'clock somewhere. It's five o'clock on the east coast and many may not have heard the earlier conversation. Let's recap some of what has been said. Ken jacoby. Who's he's part of the team from usa today Joined us early. And we asked him how involved were the board of supervisors. These allegations against the students And and that's what a lot of the students. I've been speaking to you today. I've said to you know these people have known about these issues for a long time and nothing has been done about it until now until it appeared in a national newspaper in exactly. We ask kenny. What what were the accusations against less miles less miles Was accused of sexually harassing At least two if not three or more Student workers who worked in the athletic department He essentially wanted a role in personally interviewing them and and selecting who would be picked and and he what we learned today is he had a preference toward blonde Women with large breasts Who were you know particularly attractive. He he wanted this. As a way of sort of selling it to potential recruits selling the school As far as the sexual harassment. What we what we learned is that he you know when he hired these Young women he sometimes offered them To help their careers later later. Down the line after they graduated and then kind of turned that into a more personal relationship with them and and then ultimately one of the women said he kissed her alone when he was driving her in his car One of the other students that that was mentioned in this report today said that she had a very traumatic experience when she was alone in a room with him and led some sort of unwanted touching and and Decide such a profound impact on her that she basically up and left. We also asked k jacoby about joe aleve a wanting to fire less miles after the allegations but did not why. The athletic director found his conduct. So disturbing Back in two thousand thirteen that he said he thought they could fire him over with 'cause but instead they essentially swept under the rug didn't tell the public about it Gave him a private letter of reprimand and and made them attend counseling but then kept them around for another three years until he started losing games. So i mean if that doesn't tell you who really you know has the power in the influence at that university then It's hard to say what does and finally we asked him. How pervasive or the problems. These problems at lsu were pervasive and not just limited to members of the football team or or athletic department. There was a neglect For for providing the proper and appropriate resources to be able to handle sexual assault and domestic violence complaints appropriately Severe understaffing But when they did even you know process complaints often they would result in basically slaps on the wrist. You know students who'd been found responsible for rape Being allowed to stay on campus under probation. So that's a a a sample of what we learned today. Now we haven't had a lot of conversation about this because we've been bouncing around between guests. But i would like some thoughts You know about the the obvious covering up of these transgressions. And i will be the first one to admit that you do have to to balance a lot of things when when you're running an athletic department and rightly or wrongly and in this case i would say it's wrongly u. You end up caving in to the pressures of of of the won loss record We've seen social media football coaches we. In this case less miles was the highest paid most popular figure on that campus and the fact that The university signed off on on on sending him a A scarlet letter as opposed to bouncing him out of there and what was the damage as a result we all know later came very serious allegations cultural allegations against the school. If miles had been fired van and he should have been would that have helped the culture of the university. Would it have changing anything. And and really maybe the bigger question to fans really defense care. Do you really care what the culture of your university is. As long as you're winning unless miles was winning he By twenty thirteen. He had already won the national championship. In two thousand seven played for it again and eleven started twelve as the number one team in the country and it was really about this time when the program started to see saw a little bit and ultimately he was fired. Four games into twenty sixteen but remember joe. Aletha wanted to fire him at the end of the twenty fifteen season but what happened. Remember that saturday night against texas. Am crowd started cheering. The university president got behind him and then joel libra had to back down. I've always thought joel lever was fairly squirrelly as the down there but he had some good intentions he just didn't you know what would you have done. Joel livas situation. You have caused a fire your head coach because of clearly inappropriate action. We're not accusing him of of anything criminal. We're just accusing him of a of inappropriate activity. Which i i don't think anyone is denying. What do you do in your. if you're in ever been in that spot where I like my job. I'm paid millions of dollars a year. I'm going to go along to get along. Finally got Got bounced couple years ago and the universities are much better hands now but A legal was there very long time. Let's get some phone calls in here and check out lee and oklahoma city. How are you lay. Lee are you are you there either. He can't hear me right in your him but we'll try. Mike is in louisiana. Hey mike paul can you hear me. I can't thank you. Thank you very much they great. Thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to Talk about sales situation. Second i'm from baton. Rouge i'm an lsu fan my lsu alumnus and I just think it's sad. I think it went on way too long. I think Less miles thought A lot of himself and Just really Didn't consider the ramifications of everything he was doing. And and i think you touched on it. I think possibly it's at the culture On the wrong path I think a lot of people really wish less miles would have been gone before well before. he was and i just think it's sad that These poor women had to endure this and There's a lot of good people at lsu. Is going to be easy for folks to paul on. but i really think it was Just a handful of people that were turning a blind eye to it. Yeah and mike what we saw in In in vivid color couple years later when you know less should've been run out of there at the end of the fifteen season but we we. We live so much in the moment We're much prisoners of of whatever happened yesterday. And i remember that game less as you remember the story Jimbo fisher's coming in less is about to get fired. They went you win. He wins the game in joel. Leave a has to go down there and tell him. Tell him after the game We want you to stay. Yeah yeah that's that's a shame in annot So many of us thought or felt like that was our opportunity to to say goodbye to less and But you know somehow you know just kinda pass us by but It's sad that we have to deal with this today. And it really. I mean honestly. I don't think it should've ever happened. it happened under miles is watch. I think most folks feel good about coach co. obviously i don't you know i don't have the inside track on what's going on there now but we do feel and and you know no scott word. He's a great guy known a long time and everybody has beat. I'll say this to you back. I would be far more disturbed. Scott woodward was not in charge. I i think. Scott woodward is superb athletic director. Any and he understands he understands baton rouge and you you know what i mean by that i mean he's he's from there and i think you have to understand you can't you can't parachute in from duke and by the way we should have known about joel labor i mean he bungled the the lacrosse situation there badly and the for the life of me. I've never understood how he got the job. Well you know we. We don't either but we're super excited to have scott. He's perfect fit being back home. We love scott And i do think that he's always going to have You know the university's best interest in mind and that's good or bad No i i totally agree. I i think thank you to call. Woodward has an impeccable reputation. And then there's a lot of there's still you know there's there's a lot going on at lsu. This isn't the only story. This is the one getting the headlines today. i think we have liebeck. Let me try him. And oh okay see Haley here now. I sure can't thank you for the call. Oh good no. Thank you for taking my call. My question is this. It has to do with everything. That's coming out with less files horrible. But the thing is save administration. That was there. It's been there and i was wondering. Did this happen. The effects of did they do it. The same type of thing will weigh. It is investigation will wait over with i think in. We'll wade's case. Leva probably had the right idea. I think the the will wait. Situation is is illegal is a game of legal gymnastics and i think once they were able to go in there and renegotiate his contract where he can be called he can be fired for cause easily more easily there. I there just waiting the outcome of that investigation which is still not there. But we'll see. I'm worried about what kind of what kind of life is it for to put on. Lsu they let file. I hear you yeah. It's it's not a great look but they're stuck with it and woodward inherited it and the real issue here is there. There's not much appetite in college athletics to to do the right thing. We all say that but it is such a big business and you know this. This is a this is a classic case of that. But i mean and this isn't the only place i think. Lsu's in the spotlight today but by no means Are they alone. Oh no cast the first stone not tell you and by the way i don't i don't wanna i wanna come here You know on. Like i'm on some moral crusade. It's not like i'm not part of it. okay. I swim in the same orders. Everyone else does and you tend to. We tend to be outraged when something like this happens but most important we want to know who won the game. The bottom line yeah winners. Went into who make the money you know. I think i think donald trump said once i could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and get away with it any end at the time. He was probably right I think there are people in in intercollegiate athletics. Who could do almost anything and get away with it. Fortunately you're absolutely correct. I agree with it. Just a what i'm particularly interested in is is what what what's going to happen at kansas. Are you going to put up with this guy. After learning what we have all learned in and and i also say this My feelings about this issue. It's sounds like yours. Would be similar are no different in twenty twenty one and they were in twenty thirteen but society has a much narrower view. I don't see how kids to be able to keep the best. Not after delegation. I would. I would fire less mild. I i sung by by by by dusk today. I wouldn't waste another minute. Absolutely thank you very making a call. I really really appreciate it. Just i mean. They have to just be humiliated. They did know due diligence. Jeff long made a fool out of himself when when he introduced less miles it was a clown higher from the beginning but again You know that's on him and you don't have to admit a mistake but you know sometimes you can bury mistakes. You can't bear this one now. It's out in the open. We'll take a break mortar. Come right after this. You're listening to the paul finebaum. show podcast. How do you own or rent your home share you do and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com denna quote and see how much you could save gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps retailers. Manage supply chains. With watson a i while predicting demands with ease the world is going hybrid with ibm visit. Ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud back to your calls in a moment at eight five five two four seven two eight five again. We're talking about this last mile situation whether you know this should carry with them to kansas. Let me go over this one more time. What exactly. We asked us to. Kenny jacoby from usa today who broke the story. What exactly worthy accusations against less miles less miles was accused of sexually harassing At least two if not three or more Student workers who worked in the athletic department He essentially wanted a role in personally interviewing them and and selecting who would be picked and what we learned today is he had a preference toward blonde Women with large breasts Who were you know particularly attractive. He he wanted this. As a way of sort of selling it to potential recruits selling the school As far as the sexual harassment. What we what we learned is that he you know when he was hired these young women he sometimes offered them To help their careers later later. Down the line after they graduated and then kind of turned that into a more personal relationship with them and and then ultimately one of the women said he kissed her alone when he was driving her in his car One of the other students that that was mentioned in this report today said that she had a very traumatic experience when she was alone in a room with him and alleged some sort of unwanted touching and and Decide such a profound impact on her that she basically up in left. Let's get your reaction to all that and David david is up next. David good afternoon. Thanks for the call. Hey paul thanks for taking my call. Listen i've been reading since the early eighties and listening to you. Since i went on the radio here in birmingham. Thank you Yeah there's so much like to say but it it. It does seem interesting that we lament that big time college. Athletics is more as we got into business like and yet we're praising the current athletics leadership at lsu. Maybe i'm donna sore but there's a lot of us that wonder why will wait still has a job. I mean seems me. And i'm speaking of you still there David for some reason. I've lost Communication with you but What's up okay. Well we'll see Let me let me get back to that for a second while we see if David is still there. I'll i'll try to explain why we'll wait so has a job and it's not easy to years ago around this time. The allegations came out about him from the new york. Federal case the school suspended him. He was not cooperative with the investigation. Team was the remember. Lsu had a very good basketball team. They were heading to the tournament. He was suspended before the believes rod for the sec tournament. Now all the they you know some of these allegations from the from the new york case about what was caught on wiretap We're never completely corroborated. He will weigh was never asked to testify in. I don't think the tape was ever played. And he went back to the he. He got a new attorney. The new attorney went back to school offered to the contract. Which would give the school a much. Easier path to fire him. They agreed to it Was it self serving. was it because it would. It was going to cost much less money. Draw your own conclusions of course and so they made a deal with him. And the and and i think there were there was at least the theory at lsu that the case eventually would be adjudicated and They would know one way or the other. That was two years ago. it's still going on on the on the other side of the ledger. The continued to recruit at an extremely high level memory came and alabama beat beat alabama and the number one player in the state. He has signed other big time. Blue chip players and ultimately Has put a very competitive team on the court. Now you're asking well. Why should that matter. Answer your answer my question. I don't. I don't think i need to answer it. So here's lsu primed again for the ncw basketball tournament and we'll wait still has a job so that in and you have a new athletic director and i remember talking to scott woodward about this after he got the job he said. Listen we did. We made a new deal with the coach. And there's nothing more to say And and i think you have to interpret that the school was waiting for the other shoe to drop. The other shoe has not dropped and you know would. Would he still be the coach. I ask you if lsu was was terrible would he still be the coach if lsu is three and eighteen this year now but not to state the obvious. I mean we are talking about a billion dollar industry here where winning matters and you can argue if you represent. We'll wait. Did nothing has been proven. Just less miles attorney obviously made that argument even that. Let's give let's give joel iverson credit. Though mean he did recommend firing him in the university did not go along but as far as we'll way that's why the job we are going to continue more of your phone calls here at eight five five two four two seven two eight five or also going to visit with andrew monaco coming up next as we continue talking to some of the great voices of the sec. He would join us next from college station with no fees or minimum on checking and savings accounts in an app. That lets you bank anytime anywhere. Choosing capital one is like the easiest decision in the history of decisions. That's banking reimagined. What's in your wallet. Terms apply capital one and a member. Fdic listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast walk into the back. Friday afternoon brooks kabina will join us in an hour. The latest on the lsu investigation right. Now we're delighted to welcome in andrew monaco who Couple years ago was named the voice of the texas am aggies. He spent a lot of his career doing the nba games. Both in san antonio and orlando in andrew. Thank you for the time It's great to catch up with you. how are you. i'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me. We are delighted and I'm i want to. I want to talk a little bit more bigger picture. But but i have to ask you As as a play by play broadcaster this this has been quite a year. Football was was fantastic. Basketball has been quite quite quite unusual too because I lost track of how long it had been from the time. The aggies last played to playing the other night. It was different. You got to see the ascent of football right jimbo fisher in his third season here culminating with the orange bowl win. And you're anticipating the second season for buzz williams and his basketball program after they finished And they were sending going into the sec tournaments and they all came to a close And then there's another pause After being off for a month A great return to the court. A gutsy win by mississippi state. that's for sure. But as i said after that game proud of his guys because they left everything on that floor. What was nice. They were excited to be back together. They were excited to be playing their craft if they will and poets you know you only get so many times together on the on the floor if it's basketball with one another and the one thing i've always liked about this team and under buzz williams you can see the joy for one another and you got a chance to see that and appreciate what was taken away As they were back at reed arena on wednesday in andrew. We spend so much time talking. About what the players have encountered. But you you've been able to to get a good view of this last year and we are knocking on the door of the year anniversary a week from now when the whole sports world has shut down. What's it been like from your perch You know You mentioned the the nba. It was it reminded me of law to it reminded me of the lockouts in the nba. And the not knowing if or when we were going to restart one in orlando and one in san antonio before it also reminded me of nine eleven and i remember having a game on the fifteenth working old sunshine network in florida. I was supposed to do a women's soccer game in connecticut on the fifteenth of september. And honestly it was the first time i had no desire to go do a game normally. I love game days. I love stadiums. And i love. Tv and radio and that was different. That was shocking and and the pause because of the severity and the magnitude of of a virus hitting and realizing that all sports was being shut down and then society being being shut down so it kind of reminded me of those and then know what now we have to use the word adjust and adapt and and have it and we were able to do that over the course of the year but i have a ton of credit to the leadership here at texas. Am to the sec. Going forward with with football and honest about this. I'm thrilled for all. The student athletes that they get a chance to play. I know it's different. We don't the same number of fan some in front of no fans. But i'm glad for them that they get a chance to come to school for the students card adapting there but also the athletic park that they get to. They get to play their sport that they do so well. And they're they're back doing that this year. After after the pause. Yeah know you because you're so close to the university But i think a lot of us who you view it from a little higher altitude have have have have have had to realize the most obvious thing of intercollegiate athletics at that. The student athletes do matter. And and i think we we're so caught up andrew who won the game that you forget The challenges and the ordeals that the young people go through. You know interstate we would have some zoom meetings with whether it was donors and you try to stay connected with our twelve man foundation. Normally we get together in the summer and the student. Athletes are part of that talking with them and i go back to the the funny tweet that ended up being reality when buddy. Johnson tweeted to to jimbo. I guess we're gonna have to do spring football online. Which ended up being true but you you would hear the athletes. The student athletes say to one another. It's great that we can get together on zoom. Then sometimes you get off zoom and you realize wow i miss being around them and paul of this year with the student athletes as they come together and again. It's the social distance there. The locker rooms. If they're in there are distant. I know buzz didn't even use the locker room. They're all spaced out on the on the practice court. Which you play your game you go home alone. You win a game. You're isolated you lose a game you're isolated and that camaraderie has been missed this year. And paul you know getting around former athletes when they get together and talk. It's not always about the games a lot of times. It's about this practice what we did on this night together. You know the way they joke with one another. I feel sorry because that's been taken that part of it's taken away. But i'm thrilled. That they do have that competition not throughout football saturdays. They are there. I know volleyball and soccer being split but good for them to have a fall and spring season. And i'm here at blue bell park here Before our baseball game it's three. I'm thrilled to see bp. And i'm thrilled to see even though they're spaced out it's really nice to be playing in front of fans. I want to ask you about baseball for second. Because i it was It's a remarkable to to watch this league in baseball. And i know how important is out there with with that with that facility but it i know you've covered a lot of sports in your career but Did you ever dream. You would be broadcasting games on a league where it is this important ball. I joke about the if you look at the standings and the rankings and whomever you you look at it's like a stock car race you had. Sec teams passing one another for the lead in. That was then ole miss and arkansas and kinda drafting three weeks. Three number one of the Isn't that amazing. It's an in some of those. You have four. Sec teams one two three and four. It's fantastic. I had the good fortune by career to do minor league baseball. I was in the southern league And to be here. He talked about the importance. The other thing that really gets me. Paul is when i was still in san antonio my son who graduated from texas am he knew that i would be in the studio that night or i would be away and he would send me pictures from blue parks. And don't you wish you were. You were here so it was justice. While he had his job after graduating i came out here. Took a picture of myself here at olsen field senate to him said. I hope you're jealous now. We got around to turn around. But no it's to me it's part of the fabric of. Am sports aggie. Sports baseball all the traditions. Not just at this campus. But you know in this ballpark. And i pinch myself every time. I do a game whether it's kyle read here at bluebell to be a part of this. I never take this for granted. I i love the atmosphere. I love game days. I love the prep I love seeing stadiums arenas field houses and it's just such a special part to be in the southeastern conference andrew. I'm curious about the nba. Because i know you did you did work in orlando and you were part of championships and san antonio. That's such a long season but those are two very passionate nba talent. I know there's no comparison between college and in the nba. But what's it like to be part of something that lasts as long as that. Nba season does especially. When you win the title. What i what. I learn under gregg popovich. Was you watch how a team gets better and peaks for the play offs. And that's when it really matters. And then the first time i was in san antonio so i so i was in orlando when it was born when the magic were born to be a part of that in an expansion now yes there were a lot of losses in that but it was special to be part of that then to go to san antonio where the spurs are part of the fabric of that city so when the playoffs came and and it merges with the esta you have spurs flag. It's it is close to college. That way the way the town embraces the spurs for that for that playoff run but i really learned from pop that it it was about the spurs not always about the the opponent and the watch team get better and to be ready to make that challenge and you sometimes take for granted that their championship window. It didn't close for the longest time. And that kind of excellence you. You don't wanna take it for granted. But he's certainly learned to appreciate. You know the great players so very fortunate and and to fantastic organizations. Paul i i. I can't say enough. They were wonderful. As as a young broadcaster with orlando and have the choices there. And then to go with the san antonio spurs and being a special city like that Truly blessed and then to come here to texas m Someone's mile down on me. That's for sure. I happen to be in orlando not long. After that franchise Launched in to get a ticket was was almost. I mean. I realize you were doing the game but it was a i went to a few games. It was an amazing experience. So let me Let me caused by by talking. A little bit about jimbo because It's been such an extraordinary thing to watch but this year it was so close. What what has been your view of just seeing this program literally explode. Yeah you see the culture that that that he has instilled implemented and paul. What gets me is these are his eyes but they bought in and i think that says a lot about jimbo. And you know it's funny trying to come up with a description for him and talking with aggie fans and any just fits as as an aggie with the core values that are here at a an and the ones genuine comes to mind is genuine and he talked to the players and his you know he doesn't skip steps to success. You have to do it this way. And i'm not saying. They took some lumps but it wasn't going to happen overnight but when you keep doing the same things that what you learned that the preparation for saturday becomes more important than what you actually do on that saturday and when you learned to prepare and when the leaders lead and you know players recruit players and you have to bring in the right players who know that. It's for the program and not for themselves. You know everything that he has. The vision i think is is now coming through along the lines of a successful season to win over florida. Change them from an underdog to a favorite and to be able to be in that favorite role throughout this season where now teams are kind of circling. Am on that schedule. The same way everybody else circles alabama. And what nick sabin has done for years but jimbo embraces the expectations changing. And you know you still have to go to work and to see the recruits coming in. And they were upset that the aggies weren't in the college football playoff and they feel like they knew guys haven't even a snap and they've got a chip on their shoulder. I think he's got the right guys. And i say this fall. I think he's the right guy at the right time for texas a and m. and he has built his team into an sec with his offensive line with his defensive line to skill in the depth that he has on both sides of the football he andrew monaco. The voice of the. I know you gotta game. We won't keep you but thanks for coming by hope you'll come back. This was really fun for all of us all. I would love to thank you again. Have a great weekend. Thanks into our pleasure. We're heading into the break and look forward to talking to more of you at eight. Five five two four two seven two eight five. There is now. I call out of kansas city for the firing of less miles by the local newspaper. And also jeff lawn embattled athletic director remember. He was at arkansas. Clemson has just announced it will allow full capacity at death valley. We'll talk about both of those stories when we come back. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast we are back another hour to go and more of your calls in the final hour of guests as well. We'll talk to one. More broadcaster from ole miss and then brooks could mean at the bottom of the hour on the latest allegations out of lsu mentioned going into the break There are now calls for not only less miles. Firing jeff long who. is obviously made a Absolute mess out of that athletic department. The former athletic director at arkansas. He was fired there for hundred year. Check and I think everyone knows how well that worked. Out and clemson announcing it will allow full capacity. That is pretty much going to be the norm now. Oklahoma announced it earlier today. Alabama took the lead two or three days ago. Let's grab some more calls. Cotton is in charleston. And you're on the air. Hello cotton it. It's cold but cotton kinda funny. You know hey colton. I missed the l. but veggie rx on i'll get Yes so was actually calling about what you just spoke about it. It's it's good to hear that That teams are shooting for full capacity. It is that wishful thinking or is that serious right now. I think right now. It is not wishful thinking. Now the only thing that could that could change this. And i don't want to sound like anthony foul here but if for whatever reason are extreme desire to get back to normal blows up in our face. I think the odds of it or not. That are not the same as last year. Because you know. The vaccination part of the equation is significant. Yeah yeah well. We hope so. Does that mean tailgating to. Yeah i mean i i. I don't think you tell folks can have an entire stadium. Fill and not not allow tailgating. And that's just my opinion. But i'm going to say tailgating is Is going to be back. I agree that sounds good. I'll i'll end on a good. Well thank you very much. It is I would say as we turn the corner toward next week You start hearing all the whatever what happened on this day of the year ago. We were moving in a very positive direction. And i'll i'll leave the How leave all the the the the doomsday being for others. But but i think you have to feel really good about where we are. And hopefully we We progressed throughout the summer So here we are. we're Three hours in more of your calls in a moment and a couple of guests as well as The less miles story for whatever reason is is the dominant story of the day. Because it's so ridiculous more of your calls after this. 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Louisiana vs. the World

"They. Cried passion than pageantry of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show best of podcast. We welcome all of you back to the program and this this gas, James Carville has been someone. We have been attempting to interview for documentary series. We've had, we've attempted to get him on our program. We're just fortunate to say Hello to James Carville. One of the most fascinating people in American history, James, thank you so very, never thought. I don't know what the pilot is a big fan and I just love you. Passing. Football is such a great thing. Well, I feel the same way about you and and when when I saw today your op op-ed piece, I assumed it was going to be about Bob molar or the Russian investigation or the president. I never dreamed it was going to be about the SEC in cahoots with Alabama. Well. First of all, thank you about Amy Goodman who's pretty smart, supposedly wrote a tape down on me. He did any actually made every point I mate, and he said, well, why didn't you know look what? MAC Wilson's gift to Tennissee who's a lot worse than that. And then you got this got Bama slugging multiple slugging. Someone from zuri out kit does nothing. I mean puts his hand out in front of article engine and they can tell me he has to sit out a half in stopping you think of Alabama plan, Tennessee. All right, Alabama. Delete. Has Allah battle plan, Tennessee ace in a have claimed Florida. Greg, thank you. How many times is Tennessee for since two thousand five. Dances once. And people in in bama's and LSU are sick of it with this of the pro Alabama bias, and I tell you one thing, we do have Louisiana. We got a lot of good lawyers. And I'm gonna get my friend, Calvin failed and get about five of them together and Schubert, and I wanna find out what's going on in that club in Birmingham. How many times the Alabama people taking SEC people highlands by dim and everything else. I really, you know, it's it's, it's detrimental to college football. It's detrimental to the SEC. The idea that best player is sitting out a half, but nothing while people had a slugging people. A plan in the football is outright. And I think Donald things ought to be outraged. I think they want their competition. Really believe. JJ listen, this is difficult because I think most a lot of people I don't know most, but a lot of people would agree. It was not a great call, but you also understand this is not a reversible situation. I don't understand that. Okay commission. The commission has the power to say in the best interest of competition in the most fair way to do this. I'm gonna let this kid play. This was a horrible call. These kids are out there practicing three hours all the September. He kind of make classes. I fans all excited and Commissioner can say, look, this shouldn't happen. I can do it. It's like the pope. He can do anything he wants. They hide behind the commission is all-powerful. He scared to death to do anything. I don't want to. I, you know me. I'd be the last I ever rained on one of your parades. I'm not. But it isn't NCW rule and I don't think it is into power or the purview of the Commissioner to do anything about he. He could. I suppose issue a statement saying he he agrees with you, but but the forgetting whether he can change the roller, not I, I really am interested in your. Accusation of collusion collusion's a big word nowadays in politics. When I'm saying is what Mr. Goodman says is what Tocqueville should join the NEXT ON WHAT should accused him of inconsistencies and appreciate it. Just so happens when all the inconsistencies spa, one way that is actually evidence of collusion in they, they teach so much. They don't even try to hide it anymore. Of course, the Commissioner has the power to say, this young man can play football against the university of Alabama. They hide behind all of that in go and run the one of the Otake of what's his name Davis like slugging guy from mohair. He was called. He was called for a penalty on that. Come Capelle find call us out. They didn't have to sit out the half of football day. Did he? I'm so yeah, he was called fulfilled. Good. If amalgamate you've multiple slug somebody, it's gonna cost you fifteen? Hell. If I do think. Body kept him. I think he was. Did he place today? I don't think he did. So that's that's internal. Shoot promise you sure it will. But James listen. I do too to question you and your boys, and you certainly. And I'm not. I'm not throwing your where your agrees from everyone knows where you went to stand bleed purple and go. I am the biggest home of you have ever seen in your life and I also know injustice and outrage when I see it. And by the way, this view is not just held me in Baton Rouge. I gotta tell you Paul, it is become a big issue and I don't mind being questioned. I the big guy. I like, you know, as much about dollars anybody, but you gotta, you gotta show your dealers, but videotape up kids flooded of the hit in Tennessee gain in when we did and then put up the Tennessee Alabama record. But the last since two thousand five in atlas ask some hard questions because I think you and I want to same thing. I want to LSU to win, but I wanna I want to have a level playing field. They're not get. I. I don't know anyone who likes the fact that he's not going to be in that game. I hate it because it's it's one of the greatest games on the college football landscape every year. And this one is as big as any. We've had since two thousand eleven. I may sipping students action, and I may know some words from day in the Marine Corps working offshore. Might be yell leader. I do have to question you on though and is the is Asian against the Commissioner. The accusation against us, some call cabal between the SEC in Alabama because you're you're, you are correct about Alabama, playing Tennessee, Florida playing LA shoe, and Joe Aleve and others have brought this out in the past, but but but but I'm not sure how you translate all to suggesting that the Commissioner, the the SEC who's a very well respected person and intercollegiate athletics would be part and parcel or party to something like this. I again, you know, they're all inbred sitting in Birmingham. Why? SEC office can't be in Atlanta. I have no idea if you can't get the Birmingham who still, you know how many SEC schools have non stops. James thirty years. I can attest. I know the answer to that. Okay, they go to the same clubs. They do the same thing and every time something comes up, it's always an Alabama, say, I would believe the Saudi government before I believe the SEC Commissioner's office. That's that's a fact in. I do think in a lot of people do stay collusion is loaded worth well, you know, one inconsistency after another that favours one institution over another institution to me if ever to something less. Yes. And, and you know, people that love college, football, love, SEC, football, we, we want. Best called and he has the power right now to overturn that he is scared to death to do it, but but I I don't believe he does, and I'm not gonna argue your point confront out your, you've got the Dalil. Several. I smile. With people in that office and and and it is their interpretation. Again. Why don't you call the Saudi Crown prince and ask him to go get a straight answer. Jimmy, I don't wanna sound like I'm one of these cable shows which used to which used to host. But I mean, you're you're, in essence suggesting that the the league office. Is is acting in a criminal way because coming away, I don't know if it's a crime to Opole a horrific call and not make other calls. I don't know about a crime. I know one thing it is utterly unjust. It is not fair. It is not in the best spirit. Athlete, you've advised presidents, obviously. You put a few an office, you put a few senators and governors, and even I think the president or prime minister of Israel. So you've got your resume, well, well entrenched, would you suggest to him to overturn it? Whether it's legal or not? I'm just trying to understand where you're going. I wrote in my piece. I said in the name of everything is right, holy injustice in this world. Down this abomination. You can do it big. I'm not that question. I'm begging, you know, let our mist mister Commissioner, be fair athletes. Be fair to the people that you're sitting there and you're supposed to represent the interests. Give dad represent the interesting university, Alabama. You represent the whole of the southeastern conference, and that means every athlete on everything. That's your job. Do your jobs are beg you. And of course he can overturning. They hide behind some kind of law 'cause they all triple, I believe, I really do all over specked. This is just something that's been. This has been festering in Baton Rouge, longtime. Finally, time on that. I've read the, the governor has tweeted about it. Tell me and tell this audience, other people besides yourself, who who are saying this and what what is being said down there? Well, I, I don't know. The list would be people who are not saying, and I don't know if I can think of the name. But I mean, everybody did number of, if you look at the piece, I wrote an advocate that the edit thing they had twenty one thousand hits just yesterday before it even went to the print addition. Anybody can go look at the comments. Anything else? FA see, I literally no single person in Louisiana that doesn't think that that the SEC stacked against us. Not a single one console she'll call in. I'm sure somebody will call me and let me know. Ended defensive is well, we're not. We're not in the tank. We just inconsistent in their favor that was. Well, okay, good defense and by and you just will not close with this. You just accept that this is an NCW rule in the Commissioner has jurisdiction over that. If somebody does that, he can't. That is not as pollen that he can clean a phone. Call them presidents, say, we gotta go follow, you know, then let's see. But I, I have been told not gonna tell you who somebody who knows a lot, a lot about this and that he absolutely has the power to. So where does it go from here? If this, if Devon, why doesn't play in this game? I'm gonna be in the student section leading cheers. Gonna be inappropriate. For people under eighteen to here in our probably have some adult beverages. Well, wait a couple of ball hit ago. Everybody. James hope you come to the game? Well, I feel sad would feel very safe sitting next year you'll be you'll be safe and people love you. Well, it really do. They really. I mean, everybody understands knowledge and everybody understands professionalism and commitment to these athletes. They, you know, have bearish weight or determine who listen, you know, I mean, we want we want. We wanted to be heard, and I think certainly considering who you are, we desperately wanted to hear your voice here and we have. Okay. We'll see from here. We'll go Bata highlands and watch them all. To us tonight. Good, good meal. At least that's guys good man, you know, might be the only restaurant about I could make it Louisiana, but he could good. That's probably true. Right man. Carl always great sucky. Thank you so very, James. Carville not disappointing the peanut gallery with that interview. We will take he. He referenced Joe Goodman, columnist rail dot com. Who James said, made everyone his points. He will join us in a few minutes to give his opinion on why he thinks James Carville has been spinning on this subject. We will take a short break back with more. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We walk in all of your back to the program and what an afternoon. It has been James Carville. Before Carville even got started. He responded to a column in Alabama, Dale dot com. By Joe Goodman criticizing, would he had written in the advocate in his op-ed, making accusations and allegations against the SEC office to be include to conclude been in collusion. I should say with the university of Alabama job Goodman joins us from dot com holiday and express be the radius, Joe. Thank you very much. So I don't know if you were able to listen to Mr. Carville when he was on here, but he he already referenced your article saying that you make his points. Course, I love that guy. Isn't his interesting. I can see how he got Bill Clinton, elected president. Oh, man. Once I heard he wrote that baton avid get. I had to write a calm just to work in the old school references. I mean. Well, let's talk. Let's talk about your column. I and then we'll, we'll try to figure out what all happens when when you read this piece trying to take us through your mindset and what what inspired you to jump in front of your computer and start pecking. Well, I guess said I just wanted to write a column to work in a couple of, you know, he was in that movie. He was great. I just love the SEC. You know, you have characters like James Carville come on two weeks before the LSU Alabama game, get everyone around up. It just begged to be responded to. So what so? I mean, forgetting what he said because he's a politico and a pretty good one. I mean, I don't even know if I can ask these questions with a straight face. Where did you find that? He was off base other than the whole premise that. But what I read, what he wrote, I took it. I took it in cheek. I'm pretty sure that's what he was intended. But I kinda, he was hardly it was hardly tongue in cheek here, but. Let's get. Let's let's get to the facts of the matter of Joe. I think you're has been enough tongue-in-cheek today based on what I know and you may know something different Lee, but there's nothing Greg Sankey can do is her. He's not overturn the call. He probably should. It was terrible that Devon white suspended. Thinking about it this way. Okay. If he if Devon white goes through and destroys the quarterback right then maybe he doesn't get a call because Mak Wilson, Alabama linebacker didn't get a call against Tennessee when he took out their quarterback year. But. You know, he pulls up against an expert year old and his face math touches the other face masks of the quarterback. If he doesn't pull up, maybe their face masks, don't touch. Now, none of that has anything to do with what Carvel row. Okay. Because he went off the deep end. But this collusion thing. Let's talk about that because I mean, he he, he brought high winds restaurant into for those who don't know it's Birmingham's best known. James beard award winning restaurant, run by Franks debt. He suggested that the SEC boys and girls just hang out at the bar there and work on all their their collusion's such as forcing LS shoot at play Florida every year while they play, Alabama plays Tennessee. It seemed to go even deeper than that. He talked about other calls to had nothing to do with this particular case, you cover the SEC and I brought up the the, the Smith situation and the Hugh free situation is two reasons why Alabama fans in recent years have been hopping mad at Greg Sankey. Everyone stays Mana Griggs Sankey and listen. If those guys are eating Highland. What is there for Dan? Okay. Well, hey, by the way, Joe, the SEC's doing okay, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're gonna test over here. TSE network. LSU leads the SEC in opponent penalty yards. This year. They leave the SEC. All right, we'll. I mean, I feel like I don't even need to make this argument, but I'll go ahead and make a gay place. LSU bailout, like a hundred times over in that game, they would not beaten Auburn with those passenger parents calls. I mean, the refs practically put them in field goal range to win the game. LSU opponent penalties. This season seventy two, Alabama opponent penalties season Fifty-three into discussion. Florida had eleven pilled is one hundred sixteen yards issues. I mean that's more yard, Nick rush for Greg. Thank you was practically giving you the game. LSU had two penalty things. Georgia to Texas say gets more penalties before the game even start. Okay, so then Carvel love him. We all know what his. Doing splaine tongue-in-cheek, he's turning the rest said, but come on, let's be real. By the way. I mean, why white white has a tremendous impact on the game. But regardless of all that just heard from Danny Sheridan check with him about the opening line his, we'll open Sunday night. It's going to be right now fifteen and a half. Sixteen points, Alabama on the road course. That's probably the closest line we've seen all year. That's an enormous line with or without Devon white in the first half. Yeah, fifteen and a half points, things like too much to me considering death valley. But you know, the only question to me in this game is to being there in the fourth world. That's really the only question that I have going into this game. I think that's really the only question anyone anyone has other than Carvel. Well. I mean in the course of fifteen minute conversation, Joe, he suggested that some of his lawyer buddies are going to do exactly what, what entity I'm not sure or whom. He say he said four different times. He's going to sit in the student's section and hurled expletives at the SEC officials. Students, action has fun with players. I remember when I remember being at the game when Tibo third, the Dallas, so phone against the students. Joe finally three days from how well the story have gone away, or is this something that's going to linger. We got to talk about it. I don't think it's going to go away Devon whites, one of the best linebackers in the country to shame you to be able to play in this game. Only first-half. Thank you, Joe prepaid. You coming on always great to sketch up. All right. Joe Goodman who was chastised by James Carville for having made his points. We will get back to your calls at eight, five, five to four to seven to eight five. When we come back. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. I can't believe it let Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until it got their Lampley get they're all on to get there. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with Geico. What's this button? Do? What's this button? Do? What's this button? Do what's this. I believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Cried passion and pageantry of college football lives. Here. This is the Paul finebaum show best of podcast, welcome back. Done this a long time. Never big. I've ever had quite. An interview like James Carville. There was some of the things that he had to say, but we are going to move on and check in with Harry next in New Orleans. Hello, Harry. Paul I call today. I got disconnected, and I had no idea was going to be commenting on a collusion allegations, but I, I would like I would like to ask you to Bill with me and I'm a make this short and sweet akin. I wanna say this ball, if there's one thing about your show and you is that you have proved that you'll willing to to let anybody and everybody onto Boyce our opinion. And I really applaud you for that. However, I do wanna say never thought I would hear a legal gadfly Bill out to to make such accusations. He knows fall that has the as you so eloquently put it. I could've asked any better questions or you'd be and and you know committee for that. Say one thing about and. As you grow older and experienced a position, you go through a lot of hoops, and I'm I'm at the point right now where I think that needed to be heard whether I agreed or disagreed, and I certainly don't agree with some of the accusations. I tried very gently and respectfully to point out that this is not under the purview of the Commissioner. He has no alternative and and and and Carvel decided to say whatever he wanted to. He is a fan. He's also one of the most brilliant political strategist of of any generation and he did on this program what he has done so many times in running political campaigns. He took a kernel of truth and may made a mountain out of it where he just, you know, I don't care what the facts are. I mean, I'm just going to argue there's a great line. I think it's by Senator monta moynahan where you can everyone's in entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts and Carl decided to make up his own facts. I agree with you all. And that's what I'm concerned about. I just hope and and I don't know enough about litigating NCA football, but I just hope that this band of brothers from Baton Rouge, don't do anything that's got up cause any delay and controversy to the extent it's pregnant, the court, I just frankly needs to let the commission of the SEC doing his job and not wait all these allegations. One of the accusations in there that involve LSU in Florida. That's an old debate. You know that LSU in Florida, both get to short end of the stick. Yes. Most years. Both both athletic directors have complained about that, but that's not under Greg Sankey domain. I mean, these things like a long time to work out the commissioners only been the Commissioner for three years, and I feel like I know Greg, thank you very well. He, he is a man of high integrity and honesty, and he rule. In fact, if there's a coach in the SEC who may have his head on a dartboard, it would be it would be Nick Sabin because the commissioners gone against him several times you wanna get some. I think in the MAURICE Smith case, the defensive player who went to Georgia. He wanted to get some and trying to hire Hugh freeze. Greg Sankey has stood up to Nick Saban, Alabama several times and for James Carville to insinuate because that offices in Birmingham, Alabama. They are playing favorites. I, it's, it's really a specious argument and in Karl knows it. But unfortunately Carvel become. An entertainer in his latter years which he's entitled today's, he certainly earned it. But when you start making acusations comparing the Saudi government to. The Commissioner of the SEC. That's when you have gone beyond the pale. You were listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Riches in Atlanta, rich, go right ahead. Jashari buddy. Good. Thank you. Hey, man, congratulations. You're lease a week ahead of the curve on the collapse of urban Meyer. Fiefdom. Thanks. I'm gonna have to. Yeah, congratulations man on a second, but I do want to ask you about the call number forty hours you do you think it was a good call? You speak shawl thinks it was a good call. My opinion. I thought it was very marginal call. I'm not an official. I would not have called targeting on that right myself either. I thought it was ridiculous. So which the downside of having an accountant process and a reversal and saying, hey, Where're you mean we made him a rebirth. They had that process and I, it's when they go up to the booth, and in my understanding is once that call is made up stairs. It's over. You can't come back. It seems like you could. I agree with you. I think the Commissioner, if he did. That it would look like a magnanimous gesture. The only problem with that, you know where I'm going next, you open up Pandora's box. What happened next week when Kentucky Georgia or Mississippi State play someone. Yes, because they have the money and they have the resources getting it right as more important than being right. You know what I'm saying? But they, they haven't apparatus and that's the, that's the replay booth, but there's a time there's a shock on that. Jack, I greater gonna make a decision. I just think they would be seen as very progressive if they were able to appeal that and reverse it, it was a terrible call. I Meyer. How does this end Jack and where where do you, how do you see this ending? I mean you're talking about feast on you're talking about, you know, hiring coaches, grandsons, and he's covering of, you know, everything he did. How does this end. I believe it ends with him walking away at the end of the year and who knows where we're, we're goes from there, but I don't think urban Meyer can handle the environment there. I think it's pretty toxic because of what happened with his ex misinformation, Saturday, just exacerbated the problem. It just shows that I think it showed one thing why he held onto Zach Smith in the estimate of people that know college football. He has a very weak staff because he's he's lost. He's lost Tom, Herman, he's lost other people in the past that really mattered to him into that program. And I think he's lost right now period. Best part of a feast on as the friends and family program course, this guy was his best friend. You know, this guy was in his wedding. This guy was his. This guy's grandson, how many time, how much turnover has Nick Sabin had and how many favor hires have you seen? Let's I mean, the turnover has been unbelievable, defensive coordinator offense, coordinator key, but, but that's what Nick Sabin is is is a better and superior coaster in Meyer because he has total control of the program and he's always working on the next person. You got that right Jacqui. Hi, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Phyllis is up next. Let's get after him in Powell. I'm sorry, murder, phone's ringing. He'll just sick and I just wanted to touch on what James Carville and you know, I'm really tired of people taking their jealousy and battened down Alabama and and calling them privilege and going on about their their top because they didn't get their own on merit. They got there because the real system get there to real cheated. The SAC cheated, hey, James, Carville, what do you do? You want us to move the SEC to slap out. So your right. Is that what you want will be activated when the end those stands behind you? Because I'm not deep behind. You can have spring me. I can at Holly and you've got to rail a rail calls, one of your players out coming out of the game, just like an Alabama fan. We are live. Never would come out of the gate case something. How watch that fight felt what it was and you know what I kind of wish it was overturned. 'cause you're number one player was in the game against. That's what your problem is. You're scared of that. We're coming where common for you, you're scared of it. You're know for a fact that even if as in the game, them will run flout over AM sector run over the whole thing. I, I am so angry, Ew. Your, oh. Because pays in the wall. Get off them back. All bama's going to do if makes you in a couple of weeks and kick your ass. Do you understand the Carvel shot that l. up about my team I played president want. I don't care what you believe. You know what? You're nothing to me and I'm telling you rose damn time. Thank you all. Thank you very much at certainly put everything into perspective, didn't it? Thank you for listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast the Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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Hour 2: James Carville joins the show

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One of the most fascinating people in American history, James, thank you so very, never thought. I don't know what you need big fan and I just love your passion, fast football, and it's just such a great thing. Well, I feel the same way about you and and when when I saw today your op Ed piece, I assumed it was going to be about Bob molar or the Russian investigation or the president. I never dreamed it was going to be about the SEC in cahoots with Alabama. Well, first of all, thank you. Goodman who's pretty smart, supposedly wrote a take down on me. He did any actually made every point I made and he said, well, why didn't you know, look what? MAC Wilson's Tennessee, who's a lot worse than that. And then you got this got ala Bama slugging multiple slug him. Someone from zuri out kid does nothing. I mean puts his hand out in front of article engine and they can tell me he has to sit out a half in stopping you think of Alabama plan, Tennessee. All right, Alabama league has our battle plan, Tennessee every ace and a have claimed Florida. Greg, thank you. How many times is Tennessee Florida since two thousand five dancers once. And people in in vans and LSU are sick of it with the of the pro Alabama bias. And I tell you one thing, we do have Louisiana. We got a lot of good lawyers. And I'm gonna get my friend Calvin and get about five of them together and Schubert, and I wanna find out what's going on in that club in Birmingham. How many times the Alabama people taking SEC people Highland by dim and everything else. I really, you know, it's it's detrimental to college football. It's detrimental to SEC. The idea that best player is sitting out a half, but nothing while people had a slugging people plan in the football outright. And I think Donald things ought to be outraged, I make, they want their competition. I really believe. James, listen, this is difficult because I think most a lot of people I don't know most, but a lot of people would agree. It was not a great call, but you also understand this is not a reversible situation. I don't understand that commission. The commission has the power to say in the best interest of competition in the most fair way to do this. I'm gonna let this kid play this. This was a horrible call. These kids get out there practicing three, four hours and all the September. He kind of make classes. I fans all excited and the Commissioner can say, look, this shouldn't happen. I can do it. It's like the pope. He can do anything he wants. They hide behind. He is the commission his own palmful. He scared to death to do anything. I don't want to be. You know me. I'd be the last I ever rained on your parades. I'm not. It isn't NCW rule, and I don't think it is in the power or the purview of the Commissioner to do anything about he. He could. I suppose, issue a statement saying he he agrees with you, but but the forgetting whether he can change the role or not. I, I really am interested in your. Accusation of collusion collusion's big word nowadays in politics. What I'm saying is what Mr. Goodman says is what Pourville should join as an Exxon, what should accused him of inconsistencies and appreciate that. It just so happens when all the inconsistencies fall. One way that is actually evidence of collusion in they, they teach so much. They don't even try to hide it anymore. Cost to commission has the power to to to say this young man can play football against the university of Alabama. They hide behind all of that in go and run the wanna videotape of what's his name Davis like slugging guy from mohair. He was called. He was called for a penalty on that. Come Capelle find call us didn't have to sit out the half of football. Did he? I'm so yeah, he was calling for good. If amalgam multiple slugged somebody it's gonna cost. You fifteen hellish if I do not. I think he was. Did he play Saturday? I don't think he did. So that's that's internal. Shoot promise you. Okay. Well, but James listen. I do have to question you and your and you certainly. And I'm not. I'm not throwing your where your agrees from everyone knows where you went to stand bleed purple and go. I'm biggest home of you have ever seen in your life and I also know injustice and outrage when I see it. And by the way, this view is not just held me in Baton Rouge. I gotta tell you Paul, it is become a big issue and I don't mind being questioned. I'm a big guy. I like, you know, as much about dollars anybody, but you gotta, you gotta show your viewers, but that tape up kids flooded of the hit in Tennessee gain in when we did and put up the Tennessee Alabama record. But alas, since two thousand five in atlas, ask some hard questions because I think you and I want to same thing. I wanna LSU to win, but I wanna I want them to have a level playing field. They're not getting. I don't know anyone who likes the fact that he's not going to be in that game. I hate it because it's it's one of the greatest games on the college football landscape every year. And this one is as big as any. We've had since two thousand eleven. Sit in student section, and I might know some words some day in the Marine Corps working offshore. My be yell leader. The only thing I do have to question you on though, is the against the Commissioner, the accusation against some call cabal between the in Alabama because you're you're, you are correct about Alabama, playing Tennessee, Florida playing LA shoe, and Joe Aleve and others have brought this out in the past, but but but I but I'm not sure how you translate all to suggesting that the Commissioner, the who's a very well respected person in intercollegiate. Athletics would be part and parcel or party to something like this. I again, you know, they're all inbred that sitting in Birmingham. Why? SEC office can't be in Atlanta. I have no idea if you can't get the Birmingham SE who still, you know how many SEC have non stops. James thirty years. I can attest. I know the answer to that. Okay. They go to the same clubs. They do the same thing and every time something comes up, it's always an Alabama. I wouldn't believe the Saudi government before I believe the SEC Commissioner's office. That's that's a fact in. I do think in a lot of people do stay collusion is a loaded word. Well, you know, one inconsistency after another that favors one member institution of another institution to me is ever to something this. And, and you know, people that love college without love SEC football, we want the best call and he has the power right now to overturn that and here scared to death to do it. But I don't believe he does. I'm not going argue your point confront out your the, the real several. I smile. With people in that office and and and it is their interpretation. Again. Don't you call the Saudi Crown prince and ask him, you'll get a straight answer. Well. I'm one of these cable shows which used to which used to host. But I mean, you're you're, in essence suggesting that the league office. Is is acting in a criminal way because coming away, it's a crime to Opole a horrific call and not make other calls. I don't know about a crime. I know one thing it is utterly unjust. It is not fair. It is not in the best spirit. Athletes, you've advised precedents. Obviously, you put a few an office. You put a few senators and governors, and even I think the president or prime minister of Israel. So you've got your resume as well. Well entrenched, would you suggest to him to overturn it? Whether it's legal or not? I'm just trying to understand what where you're going. I wrote in my piece in the name of everything is right, holy. In just in this world down this abomination, you can do it. Big. I'm not question. I'm begging, you know, let Mr. mister Commissioner be fair. Our athletes be fair to the people that you're sitting there and you're supposed to represent that interest. Give dad represent the interesting university Al about you represent the whole of the southeastern conference, and that means every athlete on everything. That's your job. Do your jobs are beg you. And of course he can overturn. They hide behind some kind of law 'cause they all triple breathe it. I really do all respect. This is just something has been. This has been festering and bama's long wrong time. Finally, on that, I've read the governor has tweeted about it. Tell me until this audience other people besides yourself, who who are saying this and what what is being said down there? Well, I, I don't know the the list would be people who are not saying, and I don't know if I can think of the name. But I mean, everybody did number of, if you look at the piece, I wrote an advocate that the edit thing they had twenty one thousand hits just yesterday before it even went to the plant addition. Anybody can go look at the comments or anything else. FA c. I lily that no single person in Louisiana. That doesn't think that that SEC stacked against us. Not a single one if they want to come. Sure they'll call in. I'm sure somebody will call me and let me know. Into defensive is, well, we're not. We're not in the tank. We just inconsistent in their favor that was. Well, okay, good defense and by and you just will not close with this. You just accept that this is an NCW rule in the Commissioner has jurisdiction over that. Somebody shows that he can't that. It's not as power that he complete phone call. Impo presidents say, we gotta, they'll follow. You know, then let's see. But I, I have been told not gonna tell you who somebody who knows a lot. A lot about this and said, he absolutely has the power to. So where does it go from here? If this, if Devon doesn't play in this game? I'm gonna be in the students action leading cheers. Gonna be inappropriate. People under eighteen to here in our probably have some adult beverages. A couple of guys, everybody. James hope you come to the game? Well, I feel I would feel very safe sitting next year you'll be you'll be safe and people love you, though there really do very, I mean, everybody understands your knowledge and everybody understands professionalism and commitment to each student athletes that they, you know, have fairs, weight determines, listen, you know, I mean, we want we want. We wanted to be heard, and I think certainly considering who you are, we desperately wanted to hear your voice here and we have. Okay. We'll see. We'll go the highlands. Watch them all. Is tonight. Good, good meal. At least that's guys good man. He he's, you know, might be the only restaurant now without I can make it Louisiana, but he could good. That's true. All right, man. Thanks, Karl always great. Suck to you. Thank you very much. James Carville not disappointing the peanut gallery with interview. We will take a break he. He referenced Joe Goodman, columnist rail dot com. Who James said, made everyone his points. He will join us in a few minutes to give his opinion on why he thinks James Carville has been spinning on this subject. We will take a short break fact when listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. If you're a smoker, you know, switching isn't easy. You've tried vapes Andy, six, they just didn't deliver the satisfaction. You expected jewel is different. It's not an e cigarette. It's vapor product that actually satisfies plus Jewess simple to use and there's no cigarette ash? No lingering odor as a smoker. You expect a certain nicotine experience, right jewel delivers give Julie. Try check o. j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports switch and be satisfied. Yes, you can't do both warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Cried passion than patterns re of college football lives. Here. This is Paul finebaum show our to podcast. All come back. Done this a long time. Never been big. I've ever had quite. An interview like James Carville. There was some of the things that he had to say, but we are going to move on and check in with Harry next in New Orleans. Hello, Harry. Fall. I don't wanna I call today. I got connected and I had no idea was going to be commenting on a collusion allegations, but I, I would like I would like to ask you to Bill with me and I'm a make this short and sweet Ken. I wanna say this ball, if there's one thing about your show and you is that you have have proved that you'll willing to to let anybody and everybody onto Boyce their opinion. And I really applaud you for that. However, I do wanna say never thought I would hear a legal gadfly Beal out to to make such accusations. He knows Paul that has the as you so eloquently put it. I couldn't have asked any better questions or you'd be and and the, you know, commend you for that. Who say one thing about and. As you grow older and experienced a position, you go through a lot of hoops, and I'm I'm at the point right now where I think that needed to be heard whether I agreed or disagreed, and I certainly don't agree with some of the accusations. I tried very gently and respectfully to point out that this is not under the purview of the Commissioner. He has no alternative and and and Carville decided to say whatever he wanted to. He is a fan. He's also one of the most brilliant political strategist of of any generation and he did on this program what he has done so many times in running political campaigns. He took a kernel of truth and made made a mountain out of it where you know, he just, you know, I don't care what the facts are. I mean, I'm just going to argue. There's a great line. I think it's by Senator Monaghan moynahan where you can everyone's in entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts and carbon decided to make up his own facts. I agree with you all and that's what I'm concerned about. I just hope and and I don't know enough about litigating NCA football, but I just hope that there's a band of brothers from Baton Rouge. Don't do anything that's gonna cause any delay and controversy to the expense dragged into court. I just think we need to let the commission of the SEC doing this job and not way all these allegations. One of the accusations in there that involve LSU in Florida. That's an old debate. You know that LSU in Florida, both get too short end of the stick. Yes. Most years. Both both athletic directors have complained about that, but that's not under Greg Sankey domain. I mean, you this, these things take a long time to work out. The commissioners only been the Commissioner for three years, and I feel like I know Greg, thank you very well. He, he is a man of high integrity and honesty, and he rule. In fact, if there's a coach in the SEC who may have his head on a dartboard, it would be it would be Nick Sabin because the Commissioner has gone against him several times he wanted to get some. I think in the MAURICE Smith case, the defensive player who went to Georgia. He went against him and trying to hire Hugh freeze. Greg Sankey has stood up to Nick Saban, Alabama several times and for James Carville to insinuate because that offices in Birmingham, Alabama. They are playing favorites. I, it's, it's really a specious argument and in Karl knows it. But unfortunately, Carvel become an entertainer in his latter years which he's entitled to b.'s. He certainly earned it. But when you start making comparing the Saudi government to. The Commissioner of the SEC. That's when you have gone beyond the pale. We'll get Joe Goodman. Next, he wrote a column nail dot com which Carville reference he will be with us listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Hello, everybody you're looking live at fans Ville, occult, football, utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold. Dr Pepper where every day is Saturday and everyone's fan, even babies, and the seasons never change because the only season is college football season get taste of fans Ville this fall during a college football game near you Dr Pepper, the official drink of fans Ville grab some today. Cried passion and patterns re of college. Football leaves here, this is the Paul finebaum show our to podcast. We walk in all of your back to the program and what an afternoon if has been James Carville. Before Carville even got started. He responded to a column in Alabama at AOL dot com. Joe Goodman criticizing would he had written in the advocate in his op-ed, making accusations and allegations against the SEC office to be include to have been in collusion. I should say with the university of Alabama job joins us from dot com brought to you by holiday and express be the radius, Joe. Thank you very much. So I don't know if you were able to listen to Mr. Carville when he was on here, but he he already referenced your article saying that you make his points. I love that guy isn't his interesting. I can see how he got Bill Clinton, elected president. Oh, man. Once I heard he wrote that in Baton Rouge advocate. I had to just write a calm just to work in the old school references. I mean. Well, let's start. Let's talk about your column first and then we'll, we'll try to figure out what all happens when when you read this piece trying to take us through your mindset and what what inspired you to jump in front of your computer and start pecking. Well, I guess said I just wanted to write a column to work in a couple of, you know, he was in that movie. He was great. I just love the SEC. You know, you have characters like James Carville come on two weeks before the LSU Alabama game, get everyone around up. It just begged to be responded to. So what so? I mean, forgetting what he said because he's a politico and pretty good one. I mean, I don't even if I can ask these questions with a straight face. Where did you find that? He was off base other than the whole premise that, but what I read, what he wrote, I took it. I think it. In tongue-in-cheek, I'm pretty sure that's what he was intended. But I, I kinda, he was hardly he was hardly tongue in cheek here, but let's get. Let's let's get to the facts of the matter of Joe. I think there has been enough tongue in cheek today based on what I know and you may know something different Lee, but there's nothing Greg, thank you can do is her. He's got no return the call, he probably should. It was terrible that Devon white suspended. Thinking about it this way. Okay. If he doesn't white goes through and destroys the quarterback right then maybe he doesn't get a call because Mak Wilson, Alabama linebacker didn't get a call against Tennessee when he took out their quarterback year. But. You know, he, he pulls up against next year old and his face math touches the other face masks of the quarterback. If he doesn't pull up, maybe their face masks, don't touch. Now, none of that has anything to do with what Corval row. Okay. Because he went off the deep end. But this collusion thing. Let's talk about that because I mean he he brought high winds restaurant under for those who don't know it's Birmingham's best known. James beard award winning restaurant, run by Franks debt. He suggested that the SEC boys and girls just hang out at the bar there and work on all their their collusion's such as forcing LSU at play Florida every year while they play a Alabama plays Tennessee. It seemed to go even deeper than that. He talked about other calls to had nothing to do with this particular case, you cover the SEC and I brought up the the, the Smith situation and the Hugh free situation is two reasons why Alabama fans in recent years have been hopping mad at Greg Sankey. Everyone stays mad agrout Sankey and listen. If those guys are eaten at Highland. What is there for Dan? Okay. Well, hey, by the way, Joe, the SEC's doing okay, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're. We can attest to it over here at the network. LSU leads the SEC in opponent penalty yards. This year. They leave the SEC. All right, we'll. I mean, I feel like I don't even need to make this argument, but I'll go ahead and make okay place. LSU bailout. Like a hundred times over in that game, they would not have beaten Auburn with those passenger parents calls. I mean, the refs practically put them in field goal range to win the game. LSU opponent penalties. This season seventy two, Alabama opponent penalties season Fifty-three into discussion. Florida had eleven pilled is one hundred sixteen yards against us. I mean, that's more yard knicker said, even rush for Greg Saiki was practically giving you the game LSU had two penalty Georgia to Texas and m. gets more penalties before the game even start. Okay, so then Carvel love him. We all know what his. Doing splaine tongue-in-cheek, he's trying to get the rest of that, but come on, let's be real. By the way. I mean, why white white has a tremendous impact on the game. But regardless of all that I just heard from Danny Sheridan checked with him about the opening line has we'll open Sunday night. It's going to be right now fifteen and a half, sixteen points, Alabama on the road course. That's probably the closest line we've seen all year. That's an enormous line with or without Devon white in the first half. Yeah, fifteen and a half points seems like too much to me considering death valley, but you know, the only question to me in this game is to being there in the fourth world. That's really the only question that I had going into this game. I think that's really the only question anyone anyone has other than Carville. Well. I mean in the in the course of fifteen minute conversation, Joe, he suggested that the some of his lawyer buddies are going to sue exactly what, what entity I'm not sure or whom. He was. He said he said four different times. I, he's going to sit in the student section and hurled expletives at the officials. Man, student section has some fun with players. I remember when I remember being at the game when Tibo third, the Dallas cellphone against the students. It'd be nice to see Joe finally. Three days from now with the story have gone away or is this something that's going to linger. Got two weeks to talk about it. I don't think it's going to go away. Devin whites. One of the best linebackers in the country to shame you able to play in this game. Only first-half. Thank you. Joe pre-state you coming on always great to catch up. Right. Joe Goodman who was chastised by James Carville for having made his points. We will get back to your calls at eight, five, five to four to seven to eight five. When we come back listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome to belt official retail department store the SEC with department stores in the southeast. We get your passion. We know it's more than a game. It's a way of life and part of the modern southern lifestyle we deliver every day at belt. You'll find new looks from the best brands like Michael Kors. Frye free people under armor and more all at great prices. You'll love the fashion, you desire the value you deserve. That's modern southern style experience today in store or at belt dot com. Cried passion than patterns re of college. Football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show our to podcast welcome back. We have been remiss on phone calls here for the last forty minutes or so, but we will make up for that. Now the phone number is eight five five, four two, seven two eight five eight, five, five to four to seven to eight five hope you enjoyed the conversation with James Carville. Let's grab some more calls here and Larry. What'd you make at a Mr.? Carves comments, late. I know he has been grit and you'll taste brother. You got, you had to hold back you and say, what you wanted to side but giants. It's, you're listening, Jack, and I know you. 'cause that's why you all man, you know really good. Your genius, democratic. Person, you know, be most size and how good did you with Hillary Clinton's laced. He has a record. He did not run her campaign. No, but he come in it just as bad as he gets on goes out. This stay out found and you know, dying go, well, he's out of bound. When you start this mess about comparing what country was that he compared as to Saudi Arabia? Yeah, now you can meet and this guys don't get this clown. I wish you the slat around Jack. I love to. I wished I could get up knows knows what? What would you do? James Carville knows the nose with them swept that smile because I know you're going give smugly Gran, you know, like Mr. Merkley and doghouse. Oh, would make ten John slept at. Merkley office. Erkel off his face. Yes, yes. Come up in here. You got that right. You don't come up here and dog enough and Commissioner works is. I'm sorry, but I had to say, hey, works out by the and you go come up and trash us over 'cause way his by. You go out that quarterback son, you go pay for it. You know, when you need to be on numbers, not around that helmet and lots of legs. They are wholly different animal when you're tackling and they know that, hey, so what about Rockland dyas? Yes, don't talk about number four. The sun trying to buy number limbs, ankle Kristen around. Yeah. Talk about that. All that up to to the Rockland I was and he punished him internally, but that clown knows that he no nothing pile. They give down your shell and towns debate. Some sports guy and Hainault sports. Nothing. They need to get back to politics and whatever he does because he's worth it in. In my book and roll Todd. Jack, Jack, Jack squirrel is up next. Hello, squirrel. A lot of be as eloquent as Larry, but let me just thank him call for for having James Carvel on four legs before this upcoming election, just to show people how sleazy and slimy the typical democrat is and combined that would be an LSU fan and throw in the wideness and man. He just got James Clavell right there. I mean fit in the student section and and holler at the referee grown man. I mean, what do you think about that type of hateful? Well, again, I don't know where you at first. I thought the whole thing was tongue in cheek, but you don't compare respected individual likes Commissioner the SEC to Sadie government right now, if you're if you're, no, that's not you're talking about a government. That's accused of being complicit in a murder of journalist, oh, you used to interview so many different people when you own FM. And I mean different types of not just sports. People and even more so on satellite. But this was probably one of the darkest interviews you've ever done. I mean, I was listening to the voice of evil when I. I mean, I mean, he makes gyms in like a good. You know what I mean? So I don't know. I mean, I, I want this linebacker to play. I I want you to make your connections, you go to Birmingham. I want you to get permission for this caster Klay because we don't won't know excuses when Bama goes the bat route and puts a foot that tiger s about two weeks. I mean, I'm serious for James call now. I think everyone would like to see him play at this point. But I, as I tried to point out only about ten times during the conversation, this is an NC double a situation. This is not the and by the way, what if the Commissioner decided, okay, I don't care what the rules are. I'm going to let him play. What happens next week. That's right. You've got to do it for every look. What can of worms opened up, but there again, I mean whether he's going to be sitting in the student section, whether they're paying them supreme court doors, this is typical attitude from the cat like him. So again, both conservative in a couple of weeks Aloha. I'm not coal is not to turn this into a midterm election. Suare MO is up in Texas. You're on the air Moga after him. I don't. Did you happen to watch the Alabama Tennessee game? Yes. Did you see the tackle went number thirty, put the hit on their quarterback, not sure did Al. I sure think he led what his helmet. Yeah. So I remember that of course. Do you think he led with his helmet? Like it was a targeting type deal look like, oh, okay. So there was not even flag thrown there. It's just a difference in the -ficiating crews that you get. Exactly. Yeah, one one because it happens in one place or doesn't happen, doesn't make it right or wrong in another place. You're exactly right. Exactly. Right. I don't, you know, Alabama. LSU have to play way beyond what they did against Georgia to beat them. But I would like to see, you know, y get a chance to play, but what also got me was how quick the replay crew the made of call on that. And they made the that Mississippi State quarterback even leave the game. You know why the crew made the call because they didn't have indisputable evidence to overturn it. Yeah, on the stand, you know, it's just the one official but official in the deal. He didn't take much. He didn't take long look at the call at all, and he made out Mississippi State quarterback leaves the game, they'd guy he wasn't hurt at all. He was back in two plays later where the Tennessee quarterback at Abro collarbone I think is what stand right. And I mean, I think he's out for the rest of the year. I may why didn't pound into the ground or anything. Targeting to me is an intent also her listen, first of all, I think it was a bad call, but it wasn't the worst call in the history of mankind. It was just a raw. It was the wrong call. Yeah, but I mean two wrongs don't don't make a right, but it was the name get called for that penalty. And the guys laying on the ground. They had about five minutes where the guy before they got him off the field to maybe the officials could talk and think maybe that was targeted. But you know, that's just the way football works. Exactly. Hey, thank you very much for the call. We will take a break and we need one listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. On the.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion and patterns re of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. Welcome back. We continue with more phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. Scott Woodward on on the way out at LSU. A lot of names already excuse me. It's got Woodward rumored to replace Joa Leib at LSU. Scott Woodward is athletic director at AM. He's an LSU native graduate. He's a Baton Rouge native. And we still have no confirmation on Joel livas firing or dismissal or whatever they want to couch. It the story broke about four hours ago, Tim Brando. Join us he I don't know apologized an fans, I'm not trying to force Scott Woodward to Baton Rouge. Although he is the name everyone is talking about. Let's get back to the calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. John is up next in Columbus, Ohio. Hello, john. Hey, paul. How are you doing great? Thank you. I was listening to the old Seth water on your show talk. And he said his top four had Clemson, Alabama, Michigan and Georgia. But love me. I don't understand how he could put Michigan in there. Well, let me they were John hold on a second. This is not an an individual decision. This is they're using data computers mall. They're using a format that this is not just a couple of guys saying, yeah, I don't like I don't like note that Paul. I'm sorry. That's okay. Telling me that do, but I tell you if you know, of course, I love the buckeyes, but I'll tell you scary team this year. I think will be Nebraska because they don't play Michigan Michigan state or Penn State, and they got the buckeyes at home. And Scott frost is a good coach. Great good. I think I think a lot of people's forget about Oklahoma. They got old Jalen hurts Lincoln Riley. He just feels the quarterbacks up, and they do the system. Hopefully Ryan day can do with field. What he did with Haskins? I watched the spring game. I didn't really see too much field. But I know he's still young. And Paul did you know, he was the highest recruit ever to go to the buckeyes. I didn't know that. No, I that's hard to believe all the great players that they had, you know. But we'll great to hear from you. John. Thank you very much. Again. A lot of reaction to what Seth told us the alita. Dilemma and the possibility of Woodward taking his place. A rod is in Texas. You're up next here on. Paul. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you talk to you. Thank you very much. There's a lot of deep speculation that there is some disappointment. From Scott Woodward at a in the m over the firing of Bill Kennedy and the president's displeasure with that. Okay. Do for those of us who don't follow. The situation who who was Bill explained the Kennedy situation to us Billy Kennedy the coat. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, bill. Okay. Fired. Okay. When you say France with sharp, no. That sharp was displeased. Okay. John Sharp is the chancellor, right? And I when you said Bill Kennedy, I forgot I mean, he's Billy everybody. I've never heard him. Call bill. I forgot the why. So that's okay. Hey, listen. I just misunderstood it. So. Billy lucci. Yeah. I know Billie is saying that it's a long shot that we can keep Woodward. Really? Yes. Yes. That's that's on tech sags and and Dallas Morning, News everywhere. So the word is according to Lucci that John Sharp, light Kennedy and. And now sharp is the chancellor of the system is that correct yet. I easy that the chance for the president. But you know, he rules. Yeah. No. I know I know John and we've interviewed him couple of times and no-one pretty well. But I couldn't remember what title was. But here's here's my opinion on the whole situation. If Scott wants to go back to his alma mater. I can completely understand that. What I can't understand is why anyone would go back to that says cesspool that is LSU. And I'm and by way of explanation. When I was a kid. My dad was in the bridge building business, and he went to lose the Anna to look at a job when he came home. I asked him dad, how was it? And he said. They wanted me to pay money. For me to look at the job. Hello. I'm listening. You know, that's the cesspool that Louisiana is. Well, a lot of people like down there on. Thank you for the call coaches up next in Morristown, Tennessee. Hello coach. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Hey couple issues. Obviously hot topics of the day when you like to be Scott. We words agent about right now. I would I would like to be if I could will the bidding war between LSU and take him for his services, and maybe a little bit better than even Rick Barnes have between Tennessee and UCLA. So I think it I think that they will make a run for it. I think that tech stadium's going to counter with an offer that's going to be pretty good also. But and I heard the previous caller, and and I don't I don't fault really Scott making the move in hiring buzz over Billy Billy's great game. But I I really I don't fault. Yeah. That, you know, listen, that's the first I've heard about that. And and I had not heard of that. I don't think it was a difficult decision to get rid of Billy Kennedy, especially when you knew you could get buzz Williams who is a is a better coach for an than than Billy Kennedy was true. Hey, no, saying on Barnes or heard your comment earlier. And that was kind of one of the points. I wanted to make also all the yes, he I think if he looks at it he shouldn't have he should not have made the comment, but it's only going to fit him. If he starts losing. There's only the only other things going to fix is his free meals for life than might affect. But that's going to be at least you made that point. It's not this is a meet point if he has another season just to successful if these head and he takes them further. This will be forgotten about win soft problems like, you know, sales and business coach these are only these are only things that come up, and as a former newspaper columnist you. You don't even think about this stuff until coach loses a big game or underperforms? And then you go into the file and you have at it. Otherwise is in by the way. I I don't think Greg Barnes. Really cares. One way or the other do no not at this point time in his career. Maybe when he. He was forty four. He would he would have been sixty four. No, I think he's he's got a he's he knows one thing. He would be paid a lot of money from now and till the next five years or up whether he wins or not. That's exactly right. But hey, appreciate you taking my call look forward to hear intense. Thank you, very much Brando coming up here in just a moment. Let's check in next with Ed who is in North Carolina. Hello, ed. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. I've been Tennessee football fan for forty six years. I've had season tickets out there about that long and other than Peyton Manning and t Morton, I really don't see why we haven't been able to get a good quarterback over the years. He sure was a Heisman finalist. Yeah. He's he's one bad. But I mean, I just don't think Gary tunnel has what it takes quarterback at Tennessee. Okay. And I wanna get your opinion. I don't know if he if he does if he doesn't I mean, he he didn't really have a lot of compliments around him last year. And if he can if they can build a line and give him some skill position weapons than I think he can be a lot better. I it's kind of hard to make a broad brush statement because you're talking about twenty five or thirty years and. I've heard Alabama fan say the same thing. But the, but they they they've suddenly run into a group of good quarterbacks. I it's it's you you also have a number of different coaches. I I don't know what the answer is. I'm on Jared. He he's he's young. And and I thought he had a pretty good year last year and look pretty good Saturday. But. I I can't tell you. He's going to be great. Thank you for the call, though, Tim Brando is always great. Let's get his take on the situation with Joel liba. He has been talking about a lever for a long time on this show. Cannot wait to get his take on the news Joe Aleve. Maybe gone. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We'll go back. So glad you're with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. Nothing official yet from that Rouge, not even any statements, but speculation all over the board that Joe alita is done forced out as the athletic director. And our next guest has been talking about the intersection of Joe Leyva and LSU athletics for a long time on this program tipped us off last night. This was eminent and Tim Brando joins us right now. Tim, thank you very very much in. We were all eager to get your reaction to. What is what is? Going on right now in Baton Rouge, the timing. Call I don't know as much about as I'd like I wasn't fooling around dinnertime last night that it was emotion. I got I think I may have left a message with you along about you did on ten ten o'clock or so in the evening after I checked a couple of other sources, I don't ever want to mention anything to anyone unless I've got a more than a one source, but listen, this is this is a byproduct of not just what's going on with the basketball program. But what's happened over a period of time, the lack of due diligence on many many fronts there is one name, and you may be reading about his name little bit core. If you follow the story closely past chairman of the board of supervisors, Richard Lipsey, Richard very, very influential guy. In in Baton Rouge who is very much in the skip Berkman camp. And he was very upset with the way that the courtship or lack thereof of JIMBO Fisher went down. And so it sort of began there. And then there were missteps along the way you may recall a couple of years back when the Florida LSU situation with the football game with with the storm coming with the hurricane in route how that was handled and and really the black Mark that was left on issue much more. So than Florida when this pissing match place between Jeremy Foley, and and Jila leva. And and the league was also a little bit late in getting involved. And I think it made at one point Commissioner say look bad all of this. You know, you add it up over period of time. And there was enough there for changes to be. Made even long before the the will wait circumstances came up. Now, you will be reading I'm sure from a lot of people, but most of them fans suggesting now that with leva dawn this clears the way away they are two separate issues will wait is not in the clear by a long shot. We'll find out I guess what day after tomorrow, whether he'll testify and if he does have the testify then that situation will rear its ugly head again. So I think this was I'm not gonna say it's not that the timing of this is not been moved along a little bit by basketball. It may have you had a year left on his deal, but admits it's made easier by waiting and and and when you have the right time and the basketball situation allowed for the time to happen now, then it's easier to make this move. Pay mothra year and make it look as though he's stepping down. And that's the way I think this is all going to work out. Once they, you know, work out, the semantics of the circumstances talking to Tim Brando, Tim let me let me ask you about. Wade first then we'll come back to what's next. Regardless of what happens with the trial next week. Give us your best evaluation and analysis of will wait future at LSU. It's better than it was a week ago. It's probably more fifty fifty than thirty seventy which I think I would have had that. That's that would have been nicer NOP since then. But I think the fact that Aleve is going probably enhances wait circumstances. Particularly if his lawyer who has a track record for doing the job in similar circumstances. Particularly with Bruce Pearl gets the job done. Now. It's a little different this time around because parole wasn't on reportedly on a wiretap. And we'll was and is and he's not been, you know, loose was never subpoenaed to appear in court and be under oath and will is, but if they can find a way to keep. Him from having to testify, and what is today, I think the first day of national signing day track. Let's say some of these kids that are supposedly in his hip pocket, particularly the one in mountain brook. Alabama comes his way, then you know, the worm could turn in the direction for Wade, and possibly as I think our friend Glenn Gildo suggested with you yesterday if not the day before the chances of his survival are heightened as a result. But, but that's a that's a lot to have to have happened for will to be in good shape. To me, given the circumstances of of of what LSU has faced and the image it that it has taken. I I would suggest that as Jay Bilas says his survival is is survival chances are minimal. But we've seen this happen before Sean Miller went out and was defiant in the eight in case in Arizona, and he managed to survive, Bruce, Pearl never really had to do that. Because he was never tied directly to Chuck Person win when Chuck was in fact, arrested and you saw what happened with him. So these are these comparisons that are being made conveniently by a lot of fans don't necessarily add up because they those coaches never faced the circumstances. That will wait is facing right now. Tim what's next because there are a lot of names out there, including Scott Woodward, friends in Texas, really wonder why he would leave very stable situation where he's likely to get a better deal any hour to go into Baton Rouge. But it is home, of course. Yeah. And this is what I've heard based on the context I have down there. And and Scott is a Catholic high guy when I say Catholic high to those in Baton Rouge in southeast Louisiana. That's one of the real pillars of that community. My first cousin. Greg was once the headmaster at Catholic. I in fact, I think he was when Scott was in high school there. He went on to become an LSU graduate mid eighties, and was very much a part of the skip Berkman regime at LSU, and and by the way, another man that was part of that whose name will probably also. Surface. I doubt that they'll be able to get him. But he was very much a part of LSU success story when skip was named AD Scott Renna kovic now the athletic. Clemson Scott really did do the work for skip. When he was the Atlantic director. Skip of obviously is beloved in that community and Richard Lipsey one of his well. In fact, he is his closest friend. So the Berkman factor from the outside looking in with the people involved here Lipsey is a former past chairman of the board of supervisors and his relationship with skipped being what it is. In addition to that, Scott Woodward being part of that those tentacles the tree if you will of Birdman as a young young man coming up after graduating in being a part of that athletic department, tree plays very strong into this. And i'm. Told by a number of people that I really count on that if it becomes a bidding war, they Inam would win any more. There's far too much money there if they really wanted to pay up to keep him they could but hit that's home. It's absolutely home. This connection not only to LSU. But also, the Catholic ties very strong. And if they were able to pull that off and get him that would be quite a coup. He's gotta be considered the front runner. Paul. Absolutely, no doubt about it. But if AM does come strong, and he just hired buzz Williams, and which I think is one of the greatest sires in the all season of college basketball. If it's too late for them to get him. I'm gonna throw out an outlier for you that I think has not been mentioned yet by anyone in the media, even in the Anna. And that would be heard, Vincent. Oh, yes. A senior associate Commissioner of the southeastern conference office. Herb cut his teeth as a student assistant. Way back in the day in the eighties. When Paul Manasseh one of the legendary which relation people brought a so many people up that was when gosh, I think you'll working here. Now, it's always in charge. Sure of the sports information department heard was part of that tree. And and and became very much a part of the athletic department at LSU before going to the SEC office. I think I when I say this to you. You'll agree with me is there a school in the southeastern conference that has fallen as much disfavor within the conference as LSU in the last handful of years, and there's a, and, you know, a lot of it is known Tim Rodber of it is not known because there are things that we could bring out that are just it's embarrassing everyone. Absolutely. Well, without in mind who better to heal those wounds than someone from within the SEC office and would not the southeastern. Conference office be happy to know. Absolutely in charge at LSU. Right. So to me he would be now he's never been an athletic director before. And I think that's one of the things that always comes into play when jobs like these pop up. And that's where would has. I think the inside track has would a guy like Radic Ovitz. There's been some talk about Nunez who's inside this. But who knows is much more part of the Aleve a family, which I don't I don't believe I think that'll be a radical added some within the I think the the the the ethnic apartment there that are that are under a lever right now have a chance of of staying there. Well, liked I think the guy like jaws varies really well there, and it's done a great deal. And of course, was a former player LSU, but I think making a a a move towards someone younger someone who has ties with the school, particularly someone like Woodward makes a lot of sense if not him to me the next best option. In for them would be her vincit. Well, that is really a fascinating report. Many many thanks him. We we pay great attention to what you say about everything. But when you talk about Louisiana, we we listened even closer. Thank you so much for sharing the information. Thanks for tipping us off last night. So we could be somewhat prepared today. And we hope you around the Gulf was good today. I did. Okay. Thanks, paul. Good to be with you. Thank you, Tim Brando who works very hard works pretty much every day of the week for most of the year. But this is a little bit of a quiet time. And we appreciate him. Joining us this afternoon. We have a couple of more guests later, but mainly your reaction to what we've already heard a lot lot on the table here. And that name her Vincent who's one of the Greg Sankey top lieutenants in the Birmingham SEC office. Fascinating name to chew on pretty sure. L LSU will have a battle on their hands. If they tried to get Scott. Woodward away from college station, we are back with more after this. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Okay. We are back in. If you want to give us a ring eight five five two four two seven two eight five Brando's from fantastic information from him. We've had a couple of reports from Baton Rouge nothing official yet. But everyone considers it a foregone conclusion that the has been ousted in Baton Rouge. Fred is up next in Texas. Oh, thank you. I what PM didn't report. And this is also breaking news is that accurate shops in Louisiana are already running low on rough. So you may want to add that listen Paul if they really mardi gras was three weeks ago. It's been extended I heard, and I tell you what. That mardi gras was really going on because there's excitement about Joel leave leaving. And they're really a few reasons and some of them we in your control, someone not but from less miles, and he's handling of that situation to Johnny Jones and the lack of success the basketball program to sitting we away he's really been seen. We talked about this before is one really more controlled by circumstances instead of being in control of you add to that the fan disgust and disappointment surrounding the lack of football title and win away situation really became the ball wrestling phrase, a loser leaves town match, and we'll we'll wait one in terms of getting back. Those people that backed him. Essentially had the impotence emphasis to say, hey, it's time for Joe Joe. And that's you compliment he's been wildly unpopular in this. And not enough to say that why was he in popular Paul do you remember for days, it was rumored that les miles is going to be fired ahead of that EM game. And it was like a funeral pole. And eventually people really begin to feel sorry for less mile. You remember that for sure and some people never forgot that they see why would you publicly embarrass this man drag this man's name through the mud had them come into work every day with no public statement as far as what his going to be. And then at halftime during the game. The news comes out. He's gonna stay is this you can't have that and be successful. And it just has one other thing, paulie. And you work in the you've seen this business. You've seen people at the top of their game. You have to have pluck and a Plum to do this kind of job skills, which Aleve or often seem not to. Naturally possessed and listen great interview birds berry, he is a fantastic choice as interim it'd be and I think he's gonna get a serious. Look, I I remember him from when he was LSU is a plan. He's been he's been he's well loved the confidence and those who work with him, and it gets a lot where with people which another thing that Aleve ahead issues with. So those are some of the reasons I think people are excited Paul, what do you think this is gonna mean going full? Well, I don't know. I think some of it is how is couched they're probably trying to figure that out now. But you know, weight is going to be the topic number one. And I'm not even sure the new AD will be able to deal with wait. Wait, wait could be dealt with pretty quickly. If if things go against him on Friday with this testimony, if he ends up tested testifying for it. I think that's going to put him in endanger. But then it really depends on who it is. I mean, if it's got word, we're then. You're talking about a professional if it's someone else who's on the job for the first time, then he's going to be subject to the whims of the same politicians who have their hand in the till as Joe elisa's had to deal with a great point. You know what? Polly. And I think you'll appreciate the remember the movie heaven can wait one would Warren Beatty. Sure, you remember there's a scene where this guy I think milked was his name. He was the former owner of the Rams, and he's complaining to one of his friend about babies character. Leo falls with having apply to team and his friend asked him what kind of pressure. Did he use mute and Neil says, well, I asked fifty fifty and he said, okay? If hanging them wants to keep Scott Woodward bed going to be the Leo Farnsworth. They are going to be able to keep them if it's a money situation. But if he wants to come home like a lot of people do when you get in that kind of position that he's only been in the end they for four years. He's already been by king. Busters soccer understand why he'd be a top down that list. But. AM yupik. They're going to want to let him go. Fred, thanks for the call were up against a break. Plenty more to do on this program and your phone calls. We are coming right back. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back lot going on. And let's get to the calls and fishbone is in Louisiana fishbone. Welcome to the program. Are you doing we're doing great? Thank you. So are ball at it could be over for my bluetooth. That's great Ludd going on with this LSU as you'll leave ahead to go, man. I know it's not official, but. Man, that's been a that's been a of coastal him. I'm glad he's out. Scott would would. He's got there with the money. In the this is fan called in. Well, it go talkin about the we've John cesspool tell you what that's that's showing ignorance, I work all over Texas. A work one of the largest commercial construction companies in the US, and I have to deal with aggies and Texas people a lot, and there's there's a lotta shady stuff goes on Texas. So he needs to really know what he's talking about talked about his daddy was a bridge builder. Went over. They want him to pay to bid a job that happens. A lot is it's called a a bid bond, and there's a lot of secretive information that goes into large job like that that you have to basically bid bond to show that you have the capabilities to understand this job and be able to build it and maximum tell you what I'm just. Just irks me about this. But now you saying that just you know, they're out they have set about or the happy right now about the triple seven game. You know, it's temple seven-game as Paul it that triple seven game was took him seven years seven times seven referees to be. That's great. But they come into by religious. Yeah. And we'll be ready for them. Oh, love your show. Thank you, some of bobby's my favorite call. And and you you got me took over the day. You got him laughing. Well, thank you fishermen. Great here, by the way, the advocate in the Baton Rouge paper is reporting according an unnamed. Board a supervisor that it is a done deal. He said that it the the the ouster occurred last night when the group met in executive session. It says everyone was not. On the same page. There were few members of the board that were not happy. But enough. Wanted. Joe alita out also said when the school officially announces it will be cast as a retirement, and you wonder why we don't believe bureaucrats just say he got fired like who. Really cares. CB is in Tuscaloosa, go right ahead. How you doing today, sir? Cbi always great having on good. Thank you, sir. You know, this LSU soap opera, you know. I know we'd beaten to today. But and I've heard folks say, well, you gotta look at his contract. What isn't it? What an anybody's contract. Mr Paul that you you can pay to play in u. And they got you on tape it that don't work does. I mean, you gotta be fired. Well, yeah. I mean, I seems like he should have been fired weeks ago. But I I think when it all comes out, we're we're going to find out that the Joe alita was really the wizard of Oz behind the curtain, but people were pulling strings and. He probably would have fired. Wade six weeks ago, but he was told he couldn't. Let's call one more thing about the spring game out Obama. It's hard to tell in the spring games. I know, but this I'm also met Jones bone now. I know two starting quarterbacks both to eat those darts a dead. You say snakes David throw darts was sodas to he's tough. And but I want about Matt Jones if he don't get to start next you've got two kids. We're gonna have a lot of quarterback stuff. I heard a lot about that about MAC and to his brother in Tyson. But I mean, it's way too early to know whether there is a heir apparent back there or not. Hey, thanks for the call. Great to hear from you. John in Memphis is up next. Hey, John tape ball. Thanks, take them a call. When I am UT graduate pharmacy school seventy seven now. Maybe I missed something. But this forthrightness of Rick Barnes. How would it look two weeks from now if somebody in LA broke the story about UCLA quarter? Was that British before he made his an outfit when no what happened yesterday? I think was he just somebody. He was at a press conference. They asked him was it a close call. He said, well, he probably would have gone, but you know, he had a five million dollar buyout and UCLA wouldn't pay it. Same thing happened to. To say, Jamie Dixon at TCU. Okay. One more thing. Everybody's talking about. Well, we're going to go with them until you lose the game in you name. Tennessee basketball started next year with the whole the whole starting team gone. Well, it depends. It depends on whether anyone comes back after they get their reports from the NBA. But if they all get good grades. No. I couldn't do it. So I don't think it'll take too long, then lose you. I think the program is in good shape, but good shape, but good shape in the SEC. Means you could go from second or third to eighth or ninth. Very quickly. Hey, thanks for the call. Good to have you on. Dave and Baton Rouge is up next. Hello, dave. Hey, paul. How are you doing? Well. Dave, thanks for the call. Why are you know, I told you for weeks ago? This was going to go down. And you thought I was crazy. Doesn't surprise me. The lever is is is done. And it's not going for prize me that Steve comes back from AM to be our athletic director, the Miami, Mr. Brando was speaking. He's he's got the pockets and more Poolville be booked written about him and movies about him one day. And I'm telling you, he's. The this is oh to lose. And as it gets, and you gotta governor trying to get reelected right now. And you got money people putting pressure on him. It it is it has been something to sit back and laugh about if you from south Louisiana, and you you enjoy this kind of stuff this has been some kind of a show. Well, it's like a bad John Grisham novel. No doubt. I don't think president of university will make it through there either. And and it's not just about the wheel weight thing. This has been coming for a while. And Mr. Lipsky, very smart, man. Very smart businessman has done very well for himself. And you know, he's the puppet master right now. And you know, that's just the way things is being written right now. And and I think the school. Better off with Aleve or Goan. He needs to be gone. He hasn't done us any favors. He's caused us a lot of problems, and you know, whether you want to support we'll wait or not or where you think he's don't coach LSU or not. I think that the the the one of the good things, I've is situation has come is that we have gotten rid of believe, you it may turn a lot of people around on. We'll Wade because Leyva was the. The scab on this situation that nobody no one could get past. He and by the way, Lee mo- mo-, most of the levers problems. I think have been self inflicted. Dave. I mean, he is absolutely without a down. Just a, you know by most people's accounts in Aragon jerk without a doubt. And and I don't know, you know, I, you know, the prey to run around the time.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The cried passion and patron tree of college football lives here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. We walk into that second half of the show is live and underway. And we begin for those of you joining us with some breaking news from Fayetteville after eight years. Mike Anderson has been let go as the head coach of the Razorbacks brought in as a favorite son a player and later in the system under Nolan Richardson during that incredible run in the nineties. He just couldn't get it done on a consistent basis. Three NCWA tournament. Bids. Wally hall has been covering the Arkansas beat for many, many years as eagle eye view of that scene as anyone in in in the state, and he's joins us now while I thanks as always for being with us. I know you wrote about this today about the program, not progressing, but what is your reaction to the news out of Fayetteville? I'm a little bit surprised Paul bought at this point. You know, you're at the Sweet Sixteen you gotta go find a coach if you're going to do you're you're you're the four team down the SEC to pull the trigger. So you're behind everybody else in finding a new coach. So I I was a little surprised at the timing. What do you think of finally pushed the university over because I unlike in football year ago with bielema? I mean, this was not a clear cut choice to agree. I I would agree with that. Yes. I I think it will two things. And I think fair or not fair all coaches today in college basketball or measured by their success in the NCAA tournament. And the second thing is would attendance was declining so fast, they they can get twenty thousand people in but Walton, and they were games when they had six seven thousand people, and that's a lot of lost revenue per game. So I think those were the two big factors. Well, in Anderson, certainly was liked by many and was part of a culture of success there. So this is the prising to some people as we discussed, and it's always awkward Amelie move on. But you have to what without much time to even think about it. What do you think is the next move for the university of Arkansas, I have no earthly idea surely to goodness they had a plan in place. Once they took an an IT bid. I didn't think this was going to happen. But then again, Alabama within IT did and they did the same thing. So I don't know. I hope they have a better plan than what it appears. They do. There's not that many coaches out there that you know, you see the ones having success like it wo- for glaze never leaving there. He's been there. Seventeen years were they found the right guy to come in and start building this program from the foundation up. I'm glad I'm not in charge of that. Search certainly a new athletic director hunter, your check who who came in as Chad Mars was being hired. So you can't say that that was really his higher. Now, he did come from Houston. Bring that up, and you you'll know arm bringing it up because Kelvin Sampson is at Houston, very hot coach hundred did not hire him. Macro did. But certainly they work together. Is he the type? Coach that Arkansas could be looking at. Yeah. I believe. So I think what Kelvin has done at Houston is what every program this down hopes to do within five or six years make it to the Sweet Sixteen and be competitive. I think they were thirty one three going into the tournament. And I mean, just to lose three games. That's amazing. You know, Amazon is open. Rumors. I'm here, and they're very interested in Kelvin too. So ourselves going to have to come loaded the bear. I mean, surely crispier is the hottest name in college coaching right now for what he's done at Texas Tech him. What he did in one year you are knocking off Purdue in the first round of the NCAA tournament. He's he's a hot name. But then again, you look at all the jobs that are coming open UCLA, Amazon three others in the SEC. It's it's kind of perplexing. What's going to happen next? I mean, where do you go and find the right guy? When Arkansas Little Rock higher beard. They went through Eddie Fogler. Remember Eddie jer. Yes. He has this little company where he finds coaches schools, and they went through him, and he was a real bargain compared some of these head on or something he got maybe fifteen thousand his post one hundred thousand he found them crispier. Does that is that what Arkansas does do they go to over the head on her? One of those big head on the fifth gave him John Pell. So. Yeah, you know it. It's a crap shoot. While the and I gave this opinion a few minutes ago, but I'm gonna pull back for a second. Because I want to hear from you. You're there. I mean, I've always thought this was a really great fertile basketball ground, but it has not been successful in many many years at least consistently how good a job is this. That great facilities. They have great fans. The recruiting base you pretty much. You can have your picking Arkansas, except if I Maliki mum comes along and wants to go to Kentucky. You're not going to be Kentucky out for somebody. They can get into Memphis, Tulsa, Oklahoma city. Of course in Texas. The northern part of Louisiana. It's it should be a much better job than it has been for the last quarter of a century from nineteen seventy five to nineteen ninety six. It was a national player under eighty Sutton and Nolan Richardson was it they were always in the top twenty five top twenty play making the tournament winning games and from nineteen ninety six they might the Sweet Sixteen and they've never been past the first round since. Unbelievable for team that as you said was in the final four played him back to back. I think back to back national championship games winning one. And losing the other. It is a stunning turn of events in in in terms of Anderson. I mean, it seemed to me that fans were were growing weary, but he still had respect and and and support of many I thought and maybe not enough to fill the building up on a regular basis. But I I didn't hear a lot of negativity toward him impossible not to liking just impossibly. Good, man. A good person. Good father players love any graduated as players other than one isolated incident. He never had a player arrested. It just that tend to stop in. And again, the MTA that that's the Mark of the coach today is how do you do in the NCAA tournament? But but this politics with this in the last five years, plop, Mike spin there. Eight years, these coaches all went to the NCAA tournament this year and they've owned in their list at their school less than five years or less, the Florida coach all from Mississippi State, Mississippi and Tennessee, and they all came in within the last five years that's got to weigh on an athletic director and a fan base like Arkansas who's used to win and all of a sudden, they're fifth seed in an IT. And Bill Maher getting into the NCAA tournament. Well, I finally and I've met him, and he seems like a nice guy. But you know, how do you know, you're closer to the scene than I am. But but is there any way to read hundred year check in terms of what he may? Or may not be interested in in relation to a okay. Coach. No. Is that was a college basketball player? So he really knows the game. He has a lot of admiration for Kelvin Sampson. He told me that more than a year ago when he found out I knew Kelvin, and we talked he has a lot of admirations for what he did there. And in one hundred was he was very instrumental number raising the money to renovate the arena and put into practice facility because yet the that higher Tove and left and so one hundred stepped in and finished raising all the money. So he I think he has an idea what it looks like taste like now if he can just find that guy that that will fit. It's I have seen very few people come from out west and be successful in the SEC in basketball. You almost have to know the players in the summer, you have to know everybody every inkling of the game, including what goes on in high schools and the summer circuit all that you have to be in tune. With it to be successful in the SEC. While they are no going on there. We'll let you get back to it. But thank you for coming on just moments after we learned that coach Anderson has been let go thank you very much. Thank you for having me, Paul while he hall, and I want to echo something he said, and you know, this this kind of stuff doesn't really matter when when it comes down to making changes. But but but what he said about Mike Anderson is very accurate. He he is a first rate guy. I've known him a long time and had a great visit with him two weeks ago. Tomorrow in in Nashville when he joins us with his wife. She was right off to the side onset. I've known them a long time. And and he's he's always been a class guy. You never hear any allegations about rules violations. You don't hear any allegations about anything other than running a first class program? Unfortunately, you do have to get to the tournament in today's world, and he didn't get there enough. And that's why he is at least for the time being. On employed Arkansas making the change late this afternoon. That's four SEC coaches AM, Alabama Vanderbilt and now Arkansas with LSU likely to be right behind them. Once the tournament comes to an end, rare that you see so few changes in football. I don't did we have a change in football this year. Just than the assistance in Alabama. And so many in in college basketball shows, you that this league is getting pretty serious about the sport. Obviously, we'll take a break more to come after this. I can't believe it. That Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look here comes a one point seven percent decrease in fixed overhead I know everybody. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance with gyco. Are you projected increase in organic three revenue? Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. People getting off work. Maybe not heard the news. But Mike Anderson let go today did not have a losing season. Well, the head coach of the university of Arkansas, but they only got to three NCW tournaments in that ultimately. Did him and Bill bender. Joining us. We were talking during our break about his piece in the sporting news about the blue blood programs Bill. Thank you. Appreciate always good to talk to you. So let's talk about who has been running college basketball the last few years, it's pretty obvious the two at the top or predictable. Are they not? Yeah. I mean, it really comes down to Kentucky Duke, and we come up with a formula guess based on final four championship NBA all those things. And you know, right now, we have Kentucky as a slight edge looked at that program. The most final fours this decade. The most Embiid draft picks I say that knowing that if Duke wins another one it's kind of hard not to say, they're the best with if they get a third national championship this decade. But it really is one a one b between those two. Again, I realize you using data. But I was telling John go during our TV commercial that would Villanova having one to it would seemingly put them higher, and there's uconn in there. I mean, you can't snuck in that title a couple of years ago. Still shaking my head over it. So Kevin Ollie, by the way. I mean, well, that's you know, it comes down to me if you're running a program, obviously the national championship is the end goal. But how do you sell your program repeatedly? I think it's you do it three three ways you one hits the final four as much as possible in Kentucky. Does that really get to the second weekend as much as possible and Kentucky's really good at that? I mean, Calipari eleven and three in the Sweet Sixteen for his career. So I like them this week to send as many guys that you can to the NBA Kentucky probably feel two teams and stay out of trouble. Now that one's a little shaky in college basketball, the whole, but so far so good for John cale perr UK hasn't got in trouble yet. No, he hasn't. And people can throw anything they wanted him from yesteryear. But that doesn't matter does it. No. Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna hold what he did at UMass or what he did at Memphis for what he's doing at UK. No last week. There was that story running around. He might flirt with the UCLA job. And I thought about it for second. You know, you think about it on one end. Well, man, if he went to UCLA, he he'd be able to do whatever he wants there. But at the same time, I'm kinda glad he stayed at UK. Again, there's a program that in the second weekend. I honestly believe you can disagree with me one on this. I think his presence in the SEC is really elevated higher conference because that's why Tennessee has Rick Barnes. You know? That's why auburn's in the Sweet Sixteen on some level to have a quarter of the brackets pretty impressive for that. For conference that you know, a lot of the fans of worried about spring practice right now. Listen, they're in different points of their life. But but not by much I might add. But I mean there there are some comparisons. I think other than the number of titles between Cowan Nick Sabin and just in terms of what they mean to the program and ultimately to their part of the country. Oh, absolutely. And it takes a special kind of coach to be able to handle the expectations that those two programs. I know right. Begging. One of our writers did that comparison few years ago? And obviously you mentioned the biggest thing is the title. But to be able to handle the Kentucky coaching job for that long ten seasons with the chance to go to a fifth final four to me. That's pretty impressive. You know, when you talk about blue bloods, North Carolina and Duke or getting a lot of the headlines, but he's the one that kinda push Kentucky back into that conversation. Same thing saving did it Alabama. I mean, they were in a downturn. Now, we you and I talked about it almost every time. I come on here about rather. That's the greatest college football dynasty of all time in it almost seems like to to Kentucky fans in cal- that opportunity that went awry a couple years ago four years ago with the undefeated team would have been the exclamation point for John Calipari. I mean that possibly would have gone down among the greatest if not the greatest college basketball team of at least modern time and now people with each year that he. Doesn't get to the final four. And he may get there by the end of the weekend that keeps coming back up. It's it's almost haunting in a way. Yeah. I guess, but you know, he's kind of the model he used with the one and done it took so much criticism. And again, he sent all the guests the NBA, and here's two things. I would say about one when I watch Kentucky the thing that impresses me. Most isn't the five star talent or the offense that you're in. You're out he buys in gets those guys to buy in and play defense look with what they did against Wofford and Fletcher, Maggie the best shooters ever, and they shut him down. And they didn't shoot the ball while they still won the game to is do kind of follow the model, Paul. I mean, they did your I n and Barrett and all the guys they have and even their last title with Winslow and an Okeafor coach K absolutely followed the model. Well, no, there's no question. I mean Cal did it. So well that the greatest name in the sport stoic and better him in the process. Yeah. And I think you know, we get into potential storylines so this weekend and into the final four I'll say Cup thing. But thank you know, we're all just furred it on the promo for came on. Everybody's time to pencilling in seeing if we can get Duke North Carolina and then national championship game. And that's fine. The ratings would be great. I'm sure, but you know, the networks would take do Kentucky to they were those two fan bases. They do okay on the TV ratings. I actually think if one team gets through this weekend, you're gonna probably go mock me a little bit. I think it'd be Tennessee. I just think I liked their matchup again. No, no, mocking at all. I agree with you. Well, I I I was there in Columbus this weekend. So picture watching the team go up twenty five lose that twenty five and then kind of have the guts to come back and win and I like to tighten it team. I like Scofield Williams produced gonna be a tough match up for them. If they get by them a really like their chances against Virginia into to BUSTER and get to the programs. Final four. No doubt. I mean, there are some amazing possibilities this weekend. Some brilliant like you said, and then there are some that would be mind numbing to television audiences. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean from SEC standpoint too. I mean, what do you do with LSU team that obviously had a lot of controversy. I do like the way they kind of battled with Maryland. They lose the lead. They're going to have to shoot the ball lot better than they did the second half against Maryland jail. And they're against the team that obviously has done the us against the world thing for quite a while in Michigan state, but that's a good match up as well. Auburn's probably got the longest odds just because North Carolina's plan. So well because the one thing that matchup is Auburn shut the three so well last weekend, they could shoot that. Well, and still lose against North Carolina. That's loaded that tar heel team. I wanna Florida state Auburn final to re- to re- re- reinvigorate the twenty thirteen national championship in football. Let's all you want Florida state Virginia Tech. So we could go way back in ninety nine and final four. But yeah, I mean, you're like me the brains always on football. Yeah. There's a lot of programs the mayor. I mean, you could say Michigan Michigan state. Included that I wonder if they'd rather be in the college football playoff than the. Four. I can think of a few always great to have you on Bill. Come back soon. We'll talk football next time. Absolute thanks so much. Paul Cristeta, though, vendor usually football guests, of course. Everyone's a basketball guess right now again, repeating the story the afternoon, Mike Anderson gone at the university of Arkansas that is four SEC head coaches who have been fired in about twelve days. Three in the last week LSU's probably will make that five once they put the basketball up for the season. We are up against a break. More of your phone calls as we roll along here on a Tuesday afternoon. Glad you're here. And certainly a lot of stories are making the rounds. And I think it's safe to assume that Kelvin Sampson is going to be the big name at Arkansas. Now that Mike Anderson has been dismissed the hunter your check connection is too strong to ignore. Now. The question is does he want that job? Does he wanna stay? Where is or will? He look elsewhere. They're pointy opportunities. Let's get back to the call today. Five to four two seven two eight five and how about Fred in Louisiana. Fred go right ahead. Are you going good? Thank you. All you. Don't have no faith in L A T and playing time that day. It's not a matter of faith just happen to think the other teams better. But what do you think? Well, I think that that day they got dick Dutton biking. And they just can't say get the flip make many out. It's been with play the little discipline. They could play with the bathtub my Bank. They don't allow that. He's got him where he I'm up. But then when it came down to the. Oh, man right now. Listen, they're in a situation. I'm really happy for the players. But let's not sugarcoat the coach down there. He's not coming back. And I was I'm still in shock at Matt gone saying that the administration wants him back and nobody in their right mind should want will Wade back as their head coach. I mean this guy if he coaches again anytime soon, we'll be a miracle. Reaction to that. Didn't think so Ricky is in Tennessee, Ricky, go right ahead. Thank you for taking my call, Paul. Thank you. I'm I'm going to go through this real quick. Because I know you're you're busy. But I want to I I'm a big believer in coach Fulmer. And I believe he would do what it takes get the lady vol back in. Competitive mode. Again goes, you know, it just I I like coach a Holly. But he just hadn't been able to get it done. But I think he will would get it taken care of. I want to say I I'm proud of our baseball vol's are doing fairly well this year. Of course, I'm real proud of our basketball laws, and as you noted earlier if if they could play the first half like they did against Iowa the rest of the season, we'd be national champs. They were absolutely fabulous. Don't you think? I sure do. And I wanna say kudos to our local Tennessee guru guru here in Lexington. Tennessee Steve park. See if there's anything you want to know about Tennessee history, or whatever he's who to go to. But anyway, and your your show, and I just wanted to say go vials and keep up the good work. Thank you, very very much. Good to hear from you. Katrina is in Mississippi. Hello, katrina. Hi other. Yeah. And I was coming about the coaches being dismissed an edgy sake. I just don't think Alabama gate Johnson common that the Bill the program. He's only been the second year. I think my should had done a wonderful job. He had been there last year. But you have to give the players time to develop, you know, you're not gonna get the players Callum world. Listen, Mike, spin. They're eight years. I mean, I think that's that's enough time to get a pretty good sample Avery. He's only been there four that's a little bit diff-. Different. But yeah, I I will tell you that at some point you have to make a judgment. And here's what if you if you put off a year if you put off until next year what you could do today, and it doesn't work then you're two years behind as opposed to at least getting a head start on on change. Why did you feel better deck? I mean, well, you make a good point. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what Alabama's doing right now. Because they they they were thinking about prom. But he he was able to mortgage that into an extension and a raise where he is Alabama's been hurt. Now by by the Arkansas to Arkansas decision Arkansas is the best of these jobs, and I keep saying this. I'm a realist here on not a pollyanna, but LSU will come open here, very soon, and the LSU will have the most difficult time of any of these schools. Hiring the next coach for the simple reason that they're NCWA issues have not even begun yet. Thanks to will away. Right. The controversy. But I'm still saying they Alabama football team that a football school and weighty. Well, you listen if you're the record Alabama, Katrina. You can't look at it that way you're paying couple million dollars a year for a basketball coach. And as a result, you should get results until I listen, I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks good to hear from you. Willis is up next Willis. Thank you very much. Great to have you on. I had just heard that John Thompson the second was in serious consideration for the van about. Yes. And I was wondering what she thought of that. And how he would fit in the SEC after all these years at Georgetown. Yeah. You know? I think that's an interesting choice. If an I I can see that. I've seen some speculation about John. And I thought he did a fair job up there, certainly the schools are similar in in terms of being basketball school so to speak. I'm not I'm not being disrespectful to football, dander belt. I I know what they've accomplished. But but Vanderbilt is is a basketball Candia basketball power academically. I think Vanderbilt and Georgetown have some similarities he he just didn't work out at a Georgetown, which is too bad considering the linen. To his family there. But but I think he would he would work well at Vanderbilt I really do. Well, thank you lot. We will kind of surprised that they let drill go after a couple of years three years, but he did so bad the last two years that I suppose it shouldn't have been a surprise. Well, I think in the end that just became too much to bear. So I I don't know. I think they had to make the call. And by the way, I mean, I think I think John the pretty pretty sure John play basketball at Princeton to. So I mean, he he understands the academic environment, which I think is very important. If you're going to be the Vanderbilt head coach Gerry is up next in Arkansas. Hey, Gary, go right ahead. Gary there. We'll try that one in a minute. How about Austin up next? Hey, Austin, go right ahead. You doing Paul we're doing well. Thank you. I wanted to talk about the next tonight. Obama grow signing his extension today seen Adams the gory of put out a list of names of Andy Kennedy. Fred Hoiberg, nothing birds onto Nebraska. Yeah. They they're coast goes. Yeah, they sure did make Cronin. I mean, you know, he hasn't be heard Crohn's the first name I heard that job a couple of weeks ago. So I wouldn't take your eye off that I I will be shocked if Andy candidate gets job, the the guy I'm wanting to say, I mean, you know, I'm Alabama fan. The guy went fifteen four against Bruce Pearl and his careers right Harper. What he did at Jacksonville state three twenty win seasons. He said twenty twenty four twenty seven wins three years in a row. That's record. You know, he appeared national title game nine out of ten years. I think right Harper. You know, you know, recruiting Avery could recruit he got wreath Perry. Kyra her, you know, Patty, they all say didn't stay, but be honest recant coach his way out of a wet paper sack, right? No, one of the best INCE and coaches now listen to Austin. I I think basketball is different. Just because you're not talking about a household name. But one thing about Greg Byrne, he has deep ties in the industry. So, you know, he he's aware of the coaches that that can coach and there there are a lot of components to to being a success. I think burn is is is is also taking an approach that he wants to hire a coach he wants to hire someone that that that there are no question marks about it. And that's an important thing right now. I mean, there's scandal everywhere in college basketball. It is a cesspool. And you know, I think when it's all said and done the hiring of will wait at LSU is going is going to come under a lot of scrutiny. I I don't think Joe Aleve new what he was getting when he got him. But other people did and that story has. Still not turned over yet. That's my prediction. Skip is in the walkie. You're on the air go right ahead. Skip high. Hi. Hey gay scam. Go right ahead. Hey, how you doing? Hey, I'm glad I family. You got got on here. Thank you. I love you listening to you and basketball right now, especially college game day, you tell it like it is. I think you know. I can't wait. I can't wait to listen. The all the time a real quick question. You know, SEC territory. What are you hearing about Cal possibly leaving Kentucky and going out west to the Lakers or UCLA? Is there any miracle that first of all I don't think there's any way he'd go to UCLA. I mean, you you would have to be out of your mind to leave Kentucky to go to UCLA. This is two thousand and nineteen. This is not nineteen sixty nine. I got a Lakers. The Lakers are a completely different story. Right. That's I'm hearing more about the Lakers, and Cowan and LeBron have a great relationship. As you know. And you're talking about the most valuable franchise right now in the NBA that has gone through a horrendous year, and I could see the allure of that. Kaldor? I I could see it. Yeah. Right. I I wouldn't I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't want to work for LeBron. But I could see that rumor at least getting out of the box UCLA rumor to me is ridiculous. Thank you very much for the call. We're up against a break a lot of rumors out there. And we're the place to ferret them out right here. We'll take a break. More of your phone calls when we come back. Will continue as Greg next to in Athens, Alabama. Hey, Greg APL. Thank you taking my call. Thank you. I heard you talk about the coach search early Alabama. And I think you know, like some AD, Greg. Byrne is going to do is to diligence and get the guy he wants, you know, hope he's already done is due diligence. I think he has and and just going to be the guy that I think that fits the the MO that he said he was looking for. So I think that's what Alabama fans could be concerned about not about splash for name value and with regards to LSU, they're going to win the national championship in basketball. They better do it this year because that programs getting ready to implode, and it's gonna take not only the coach, but their AD along with it he Greg and I'm not listen. I know LSU fans are upset. I I didn't think they're going to be Michigan state. I mean, that's an opinion. It's also an opinion that I think they're program is in big trouble. But I mean, you have to be realistic. I'm a little bit surprised some of the people that we speak with down there who who are contained. To push this narrative that I think is being fed to them that Joe Aleve a really wants to keep. We'll wait, Greg. I I really go this far out on a limb here, but I don't know anybody in their right mind would want will wait to be their head basketball coach right now based on what I seen in. What I hear? Well, you and I would agree. I think you know, us right mind. So that that that doesn't include, you know, our friend Fred from plano because he's behind well wait, but but it's going to do really serious damage to the program, and so that also affects other programs. So when the football team is on the field and if they don't hit expectations. They're expected to attain then that creates other issues down the road. So this is not just the basketball issue. This is a program issue for the school going to be a devastating. And I it's me I don't know when I've seen a clear case of a program that and that's why I would I I mean, I don't know the legality in. Maybe maybe the administration down there does not want to fire him a while the the tournament is going on because I I suspect you may have heard are inter the interview Greenberg had with Tony Benford. He said that he still communicating with will way the players are still communicating. I I don't know how they're allowing. At least in allowing that to go on those players should. I mean, I know you can't stop that. But you should probably encourage them not to be communicating with will. Wade exactly if you if you fire, we'll wait. And then he still maintains contact with a method different situation. You can't control what he does. Once he's outside the program, but to allow this continue is just stupid. It's it's dependency. And it's you know, I think I think it's I think it's. I think it's malpractice frankly, to, and you know, I mean, those people down there can't be as naive as as they're acting. Can they? No, they're not naive. They just want it. And they want it now, regardless of what it costs them. And that's the sad part. So when it blows up in in their faces, you got what you paid for. And I I think it will be fired as soon as the season's over. I I just think maybe they're trying to protect the players from the distraction because they, you know, everyone gets caught up in this in this NCWA mania, but nothing should get in the way of the integrity of the university. And it seemed like that's the last thing they care about right now. You're right. It is less thing. So anyways, thanks, Paul for taking my call. And have a great day. Thank you. By the way, I've been told what's correct Dana Altman did take the Arkansas job for about thirty six hours. And then he he he backed away. I think they ended up with John Pelfrey or I think it was John Pelfrey. Anyway, let's continue with more phone calls and Kish is up next in Arkansas. Hey, tash. Hi, pal. What's going on other? Well, I'm telling you I've often day turned on your show. The first thing I heard with Mike Anderson been let go. You know, this is just. Well, I just feel like our some of our athletic departments are just falling Clark. And there's you know there needs to be some change and. I mean, the thought Greg there's only been there for about a year and a half. Well now that and you know, that that might be part of the problem. I don't know. But here's you something to think about. Why don't we have colourless? Listen, I I don't know what they're gonna do. But I suspect they're gonna go after Kelvin Sampson. That would be just a crazy prediction, whether they get him is beyond my purview. We're up against a break in our to go.

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And now all of that up in the air comes a day after the revelations by Yahoo that he is on an F B I wiretapped, we will have much more on that today. The statement just being released from the LSU president and chancellor f king Alexander and Joe Aleve. Recent media reports regarding coach Wade or without question concerning to us all as much as we and university officials have taken deliberate and purposeful steps to fairly assess an adequately address the situation as we have done since. Media reports I service months ago, we are closely coordinating with the NCW with every step. They have our full cooperation, and we will continue to report to them all facts and information on this matter all of this all of us at LSU share, the obligation to protect the integrity of this institution. As such. We have suspended head coach will wait indefinitely until such time as we can ensure full compliance with the NC double A as well as institutional policies, and and standards assistant coach Tony Benford will assume duties of interim coach LSU twenty five and five, of course, tied for the lead in the SEC Tigers host Vanderbilt which is certain victory as you can get in the SEC considering Vander has not one. And this is where we are. It involves a handler with current LSU. Devante smart note. No word on him. We will try to get more on this story with Glenn Guilbeault coming up here before long wall to get your reaction to that. Plus your phone calls, of course at eight five five two four two seven two eight five eight five five to four to seven to eight five of number of other guests Seth Greenberg will chime in on what impact this could have and whether or not LSU will even get to the NCWA tournament. That coming up a little bit later on. I mentioned Glenn Guilbeault, buddy. Martin who was very close friends with the legendary hall of fame sportswriter, Dan Jenkins who died last night Jenkins considered by many to be among the most influential, college football and golf sports writers of all time. We will talk about his life and Morocco from CBS news. He has interviewed. Yes. Harvey updike. You've heard of him for a podcast that is dropping today. We'll talk about that a little bit later on Tennessee's lady vol's or out of the SEC women's tournament losing badly today to Mississippi State, and many wonder now will that be it for Holly Warlick's, we'll talk a little bit about that as well. But right now your phone calls at eight five five to four two seven two eight five eight five five two four two seven two eight five good chance to get in the. Show early. And let's start with Anthony in Virginia. Anthony, you're on the air gerrad ahead all the great to talk to you, first time caller. I just wanna say thanks so much for any do I found it? So when I was in graduate school, actually you. Well, I can't tell you how great it was to hear this show every single day. Take a break from class is just fantastic. I don't think there's any other show out there that provide such entertainment is informative, and it just brings everybody the other. It's a fantastic show by the much with with that said, I'm like I said, I'm a VC grad. And I was there for the final four run. I was fan before and during of course fan after. So I was there when Anthony grant was their shot at smart, followed by will wait. And now probably our favourite, Mike rose most all of them products of shocker smart tree. And it's just a huge difference. And see the difference in Mike rose versus we'll wait. And my time had VCU. A lot of people consider we'll wait kind of the architect of shock smarts, offense and. At the same time. His his time VCU was very contentious with a lot of people, and you could see the temper tantrums kind of come out, you know, there's a lot of coaches out there, passionate coaches. But then it crosses the line into temper tantrums. And we saw that with we'll wait, and when he left he says, you are program was got it. Again, what tell us you. You know, we all thought we all thought the worst. But I think that everything that's come out kind of just shows who will Wade really is the air against and just kinda disrespect overall. But really the air against to be to be caught like that. I I understand that. There are coaches out there that pay players. It's not a an isolated incident at all. And it's hard for me to be happy of hearing this because there are so many people that are all that. So many lives are going to change because of this. But I think it's just it's good that this finally came out. Kinda shows who he really is. And he's a person who's going to do anything to win just hearing his voice. And also seeing that interview the other day after he was speaking. I think that at fundraiser and somebody asking if he had actually heard the tape and while they said, oh, that's not good. You could see his face just drop. You know, it it's it's it's something else. Really? But, you know, at at the same time, I couldn't be happier for VC Rams right now our coach Mike roads, as you know, such an affable, you know, personable personality, it's such a difference between between we'll wait. And for the first time, we're regular season champions. We weren't able to do that with shock smart. We weren't able to do that. We'll wait. So, you know, overall are you know, VC ram nation? We're happy with Mike roads. And you know, to shame that, you know, a lot of stuff a lot of people are going to be impacted by, you know, waves decision to do all this. But you know, I'm kind of glad that this is this is happening. This is this is selling what kind of coach he really is. So. Say listen, I really appreciate call. Anthony. I hope you'll hall again. Really great to have you on. Thank you. Thanks her. Oh, let's go to Louisiana Homer is up next. A Homer you're on the air. Go right ahead. Paul Schade as so ball, saying ain't so. His bad. Ain't it. I would say it looks pretty grim. Yes. I heard you on the radio, you know, while I was waiting. They should stand him. I didn't think they would do anything with him till the end of the year. I don't know. I don't know what they know. But if you have reason to believe that he was guilty of anything, and you and you let him coach then you're putting yourself in even more danger than you're already in. And they're already in a lot of danger. Well, shocking. Hey, you know, I wanna I wanna tell you all the guy before from BC. You know, there's things we don't we don't know about coaches. I mean, I really like the guy I thought he was great. And I thought he was going to get in trouble. I don't get in trouble. You know, burn the gas from the northeast, but that devante sh- Mark from Baton Rouge. And. I mean. I don't know. Listen, first of all, I don't I don't think any of us really know a lot. But you know, there is a rush to judgment here by many people many of called for his firing many of called for LA shoe to withdraw from the NC double A tournament. But yeah, I do believe this university would not have done this. If they didn't feel there was a preponderance of evidence against him that would put them in the crosshairs, if they so that's why they're doing these are you soon. They're smart people down there. David is in Louisiana, David go right ahead. David you're on the air. Go ahead due due process. Paul. Well, hold on a second. The process and the NC double A or not one in the same. Well, I mean, you're still listen until proven guilty. No, you're not. You're completely incorrect about their this is not a quarter law. This is a university. That is obligated under the bylaws of the NC double A if they if they have reason to believe there is wrongdoing. And don't do anything about it. And they are culpable. Okay. Thank you both. We know by the way that doesn't mean he's guilty that just puts them in a position where they have to protect the. I mean, you heard the key word in that statement by king Alexander the integrity of the university. We'll wait is is not is not important when you compare it to the university standing, and this is a decision that you have to believe was made in concert with the SEC office as well. Listen, I'm not telling you that he will end up being the coach, I'm not saying they won't be in the I don't know these things. But, but I do know the way this game is played. And it's not it's not like being accused of of of a crime and your, but I'll tell you one thing. David if you if you're if you have a job in your charge with some serious crime. I sincerely doubt your employer is going to keep you in your in that position. They may put you on administrative leave, but they're not gonna let you keep doing. What you're doing? Wanted. They wait so long in the season to come. Well, here's why because I mean, there's I well there's a feeling that they decided to go all into defend him that he obviously told them that the original allegations were not true. And then you had and then you had the bombshell yesterday, which which puts him on tape, and I'm not saying you can't refute. He ate a tape and in a court of law you can. But in this case. How do you think he looks? Got it. Well, don't talkers is all I gotta think mean. I mean that that's the issue here. This is the NC double A. This is not this is not you have to. I mean, they can do whatever they wanted to. People have to understand there. There's a difference between the NCW bylaws and the government's bylaws were up against a break mortar com. Five to four two seven two eight five we are back after this listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. We'll come back. We'll talk about the life in times of Dan Jenkins coming up here in a few minutes among the most famous sports writers and authors in the in the in the in the history of the genre. We are talking about. We'll wait right now. He has been suspended in case. You're just joining us. If you miss this yesterday. We'll Wade was asked about these allegations at a luncheon yesterday in Baton Rouge. I haven't read it out read it. So I don't have any comment on that. Doesn't look on your protocal forty. To read it and look at it. And then there will move forward as we need to John who give you the heads up on any of these stories before they break them or put them a new a new about twenty minutes beforehand, twenty thirty minutes and four hundred. I didn't know I Don they don't tell you what. You know? I mean, I don't know. I don't know what there is address at this point. So I'll look at it and go from there, you know, I I don't know every every every news organization is different. But everyone I've ever worked for. And I know the guys who wrote the story it's hard for me to believe that they called them twenty minutes before they released a story that is not the normal practice of a reputable news organization, but then again. Are you gonna take we'll wage word? Eight five five two four to seven to eight five that is our number. Let's continue with more calls and Sam is in Houston, Texas Sam go right ahead. You're on the air. I think everybody this high fall. Everybody's listed the big picture here. Where does we'll wait get this pile of money from people need to ask does that you're on have the same pile of money lievano, they're about to expose villa. She or getting four or five star recruits from Pennsylvania in Utah. I mean, come on count sports is becoming too. Listen, I mean, first of all, basketball and football or separate entities. I think you know that. They're they're separate entities. But come on. I mean, where's he getting this pile of money? I mean, he just has a pile of money sitting around his office. It will be the same leasers for football over basketball. I must admit I don't know enough about how LSU recruits to to tell you. But I really don't nor do I think it's easy just to jump to conclusions. When you have a situation this series. I mean, you've got guys whose entire his entire career is on the line. I mean, if any of this stuff sticks. Nobody's hiring him. He went from not one of the hottest coaches in the country yesterday morning to potentially dead meet today. Van is in Richmond. You're on the air. Ben. Thank you. Good afternoon. And welcome to the show. Hey ban. My wife is a graduate of VCU where we'll coach before he went to LSU. And I'm a graduate of university of Arkansas. So I already have a anti LSU bias. But we'll wait is a is a very good coach. There's no doubt about that. But he is also a salesman. And when he was here at VCU he could sell. Everybody in Richmond on the trajectory of the VCU program. He's very good salesman. But I do not have any qualms about guessing that he will do anything to win. He showed that when he was here, and it happened and going into the southeast conference. I'm have no doubts that he would do whatever it takes to win and win fast. Well, ultimately that falls on on the people that hired him. And you know, I'd like I'd like to know what Joe Aleve a new at the time and how aggressive he was when these allegations first procam. Yeah. You know, you can you can praise thanks for the call, by the way. You can. I've heard somebody today praising alita in king down there for for for doing what they did today. Well, they had no choice. I mean, are you kidding? Is any school in America going to stand by coach today with this out with these allegations hanging over them? I mean people let's be real hero. Let's try not to be this is not kindergarten class. Sam is up next in North Carolina. Hey Sam, thanks. Thanks to call. Hey, Paula height doing we're doing great. Thank you. Imagine. If if coach oh has some of that money that we'll wait head. He thinks they'd be able to bam. Kelly's up next Kelly. Go right ahead. Yeah. I was just when I first saw this the first thing I thought 'cause you know, we've all heard about everybody about the senate's and everybody that you know, every that they've already convicted and everything, but what about the other ones like 'cause I knew that what was the kid's name Sexton from Alabama. They you. Yeah. I mean, they they they supposedly did look into the Collins Sexton since I think they held him out initially. That's what I was wondering. Because I know that there was another. There was like a payment with him and a brother job for brother this persistent and all that stuff. So is this going to trickle down? And this is a rejoice and those guys are listening to this. And this has been going on for two two years. This isn't an isolated situation. There's just more stuff coming on me. All the reason. I mean this first came out in back in the back in the fall. And then came out the other day that he had been subpoenaed. And then the wiretaps okay came out yesterday. So I mean there there are. Scores of coaches that have been linked to this, and including Burs Pearl, by the way, remember him. He was at the outside of Patino, and Shawn Miller, Bruce Pearl was was was at the center of all this his gonna know person. Yeah. The thousand sets everything. Yeah. What anything there are other shoes that like other stories like this? They're going to be coming out saying, yes, I do. Well, I also I'm surprised it hasn't. It's taken as long as it has to be perfectly honest. I I think a lot of coaches have been have been missing sleep now for a very long time. You know, the NC double as the Monica fish ethics of you shouldn't be surprised there. But you know, I have a good weekend. Bill. Thank you very much to your from you. So I mean, this is where we are again. We're trying to digest the situation right now with will wait he has been suspended. We'll try to get some some context to what that means coming up here. Oh, throughout the course of the show. I mean there have this. The negativity against Wade has been unrelenting. And I know a lot of people in in Baton Rouge in LSU fans are not happy about it. I understand that. There's no reason to be happy about it has the media jumped the gun. I don't know. I kind of felt maybe the media has been rather lax up into this point to. I mean, the story has been there for since October. I talked to somebody the other day that actually like there was nothing to it. Well, how do you know? And we find that we found out yesterday. There is a lot more to it. More to come. We'll talk about the life and times of Dan Jenkins coming up next one of the legendary sports writers that some of you perhaps have never heard of. We'll tell you why you should have listened to and spent more time reading them. We're still can even in his afterlife. We'll take a break, buddy. Martin comes up next. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living, most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting Dole's. She has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in the most nesting dole, his the gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer in a most nesting and her lot in life. So we welcome you back and what a day it's already been. We'll wait has been suspended indefinitely. Whatever that means. He will not coach tomorrow in the season ender against Vanderbilt. He is unlikely to coach beyond that. We don't know. But we will certainly find out. Meanwhile, overnight in this morning. Many many sports fans woke up to the somewhat expected, but still very sad news that the legendary sportswriter and author Dan Jenkins passed away at the age of eighty nine. I'll keep myself out of it because I'd rather not wax poetic about someone. I barely knew. But who grew up an idol and a hero of mine. Even though I said the other day, he was my favorite sports writer. Let's talk to someone who knew Dan Jenkins and considered him a very close friend working often similar press boxes across this land. Of the one and only buddy Martin joining us, buddy. Thank you, very very much. So you're not privately talked about Dan Jenkins too many times. And now, unfortunately, we talk about him in the past tense. Good afternoon. Accident paul. It was pretty sad day today. And what I got the news at four o'clock was born here. I'm not sure why was like, but I was I it. It's that sell the headline. It took my breath away. Really? And I and I realized how much Dan is meant to me. And I know probably some younger people say who, you know, why is sports writer that import. And I and I'm not gonna take the time to try to tell you that today. But it it's important in this way. Just the fact that you, and I were able to be in the press room at the masters with Dan Jenkins is a badge of honor. And I've talked to a bunch of people today and both people I've talked to the little streaming show this morning Tim rose with forward. Bob Harrigan on all they all say the same thing timber. Jim said just being the same sentence or the same room with a guy. Like, yeah. Like, you said, they didn't really know him that. Well, they were younger, and sometimes I look myself and say this just easier talk about your the cares about it. Hear about a Paul this guy. I don't wanna get waxed. Politic about it, buddy. I what I want you to try to do though and you can do it. So well is four people under the age of maybe thirty or forty who weren't like us who? Met him knew him read him. Why was he so important in the sixties and seventies? An eighties. And nineties by the way, because he wrote like nobody else rose. Why was I don't wanna get too carried away? Why we Shakespeare import you know, why why were there famous authors. Scott FitzGerald, be the guy that I think he'd be like reminds minds meows most of anybody else starts his style and panache he he had he didn't like nobody else. Did he was a voice that you heard and read if you were in New York, he red probably red Smith or Dick's young. If you're in LA, you read all right from the south, you read firm Bisher, and you read Dan Jenkins, and you particularly read the Dan Jacobson golfing college football. And because he did him as such a great sense of humor and reference like nobody else did. And he you're drawn to that. And then you laugh how many times you read on them makes you laugh out loud. And think about it. What's his personality was was is big as his writing? And he he he he walked among the giants. He didn't just write about people he became the he didn't sit just in the press box. He went to the upstairs to the lounge in several of the players and talk to the players. Everybody wants to be around Dan Jenkins. It was his personality. And I think probably aren't Sira Sports Illustrated from doc dodges said as he wrote game stories like the short stories he knew what he wanted to do. He was riding on his by the whole time. He won't he wasn't writing. Right. So that was the thing is I think reason why because he was not just a writer. You know, here's a SAS. He was a you know, what a man of ladder is that how veterans his that term anymore. He was distinguish and he he wrote, and he was I've ever passed Paul. He was like you or the last the the the writer celebrities that transcend just being. Writer, but he he had walk in a room. The of equal to them. And I guess maybe that was the cramp rice on because he was that way. I suppose. So this guy on top of that. He was a heck of a guy and have dinner with Dan Jenkins with other so blessed times and picks his guests for dinner at the US open. And he basically wanted everybody to come bring a story and talk and tell you tell him everybody else. What? He loved to hear stories and he had air force Divac. He tell you he cut the KOMO. He'll business he could take whatever culture in the south and writing this Kip. So all those reasons why he was just a rare person at a rare artist. I if you talk to people who do as Reagan him, they are kind of on by. And I wanted to. One one year buddy not long after I started covering the masters. I went up to the. The upstairs there where. Rennies restaurant where he has to hold court. And he was it was you know, ten eleven o'clock in the morning. He was in there with thing Bob drum, and I don't know some of the guys from CBS got sunny, you know, the crowd, and I literally sat there with my head down. I didn't want anybody know, by the way, it wasn't like anyone knew me. They didn't know me. And I listen to them tell stories, and I mean for me, and and I and you know, how feel because I used to go to the graduate library at the university of Tennessee. And just read from Saturday's America that was his book about college football. That was that was that was one of the most inspirational things and everyone wanted to try to be like Dan Jenkins. Of course, none of us could. But it. Yeah. He he he did. I mean, listen. Of great sports writers out there. But he was a stand alone. And you know, you mentioned your Murray who a lot of people, unfortunately, don't remember. But those two and a few more were were way beyond in a class of their own. They were they were their own, and what people would really turn to generation onto him was his book semi tough in nineteen seventy two which was about as vulgar, and and crass of a novel that's ever been written. But it was a true story about two NFL buddies getting ready for the Super Bowl, and that that that book was later made into a movie with Burt Reynolds and lives on to this day. It does. And it's funny that I've talked to four or five writers today and to people so I like those which book did you like the best? And they've they say north Dallas. Right. Just like some top because p pretty much copy has style dinner. But for some reason, they always wanna say hope that the polish at time of tape, but one of the crazy experiences. I had was the year that I was trying to get to Washington DC do something and Dan has its bribes York from Augusta and he said once you're either me on these company for for seven hours. I was in the car with Dan. Oh, my good. He regaled Maitland stories and some of the most beautiful stories. Thanks that. You know, I read or write he's set this before. But I've never heard when he was fifteen years old. I in his grandmother's house is at the family. They would the Fort Worth press but come in the afternoon, and he would take that paper out anybody retype stories. That's how he began to write. And and of course, that's or Chris staff like her like triggers on it. It was. Who is stars on that the paper, which wasn't that great a paper? But that staff with was for Barca ball. But he was talking about stories like that black shirt, you almost works. Visit as sports at many male. I was like. That I I wish I had a tape recorder victimized nothing, and man all those stories we talked about it, and whatever it was just break time thing in the presence someone who was a consummate storyteller, though. And so anyway. Talked about this before. But these these guys who were not who were local sports columnist or try to I kind of people that we read every day and knew about and yet today there's like that because the local sports columnist or even the resource national sports columnist. They'll never be able to attain the level the guys like him in the Christian, and and Jim Murray what did at one time and he wrote right up to the end of the day. With twin? Facebook was. They couldn't stop you from type, and that's what he called. I gotta go. Gotta go talk now. And and and all stopped on the stop after they and you're so was the record one quick story on that up stairs. True Welby be called the the attic at the question hat. What you've been before? Remember, you were there is that he had a seat up there. And it was always a lousy place about chick is considering your anybody can't thereby probably fifty on this up there. And and Dan, but never come up. It's like he was he didn't he didn't do you do that. You know, you had us all privacy Cherokee up in the restaurant and up. But on Sundays at the boats all afternoon at the masters come up there for five an hour and a half somebody a fear about I don't know seven o'clock, and he would do the fastest typewriter in the south and Hugh citizen, and then they get up and walk out, and that was Sports Illustrated story that's how he wrote. And of course, he look like a masterpiece when you read it I once asked Dan what I had written of ocean Augusta and you'll appreciate his earlier in the we comma. Well, it's funny. We have to close here you, and I were talking about this just the other day on on your program about these. About these stories on top of all that he was close friends with Ben Hogan, which would have gotten him into any hall of fame, wouldn't it? Yes, it did. And I didn't know this. This read it that apparently Khokar tried to get him to t to play golf professionally. And I I got fifteen seconds of real quick. I'll tell you one thing when there. Dan, caller, Cisco play golf, and we played golf and he kept hitting the ball. You get woods. And you cook it these hook some more hooks them more. I've never heard that expression. Simply by the way, says of my book that saw it perfect is made to be its own HBO tonight. So I don't watch it. So I go turn on the TV watching. Randy Quaid players has called for Danieli, whatever last bucket up whatever they want and he gets up on the team and he hits the ball. And it goes into woods hurts. Look some more. Excellent expert of excellent. That's that's where it came from. That was that was playing golf with their hooks for many, thanks, buddy. Really? Appreciate your time on this just incredible man and sad day. But one that. Many are crying. But also laughing at his work that he's left behind. Thank you so much. Thank you for. Let me be on Paul are up to your Dan right to have you on buddy? Martin not only a great sportswriter is. All right. But very close friend of the legendary Dan Jenkins, sometimes you just have to go get one of the books or look out look up. This story's he spent most of his career SI. We will take a break. More of your phone calls after the listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. We are back. Welcome back to the program. Glad you're here. And let's give back to the calls at eight five five two four two seven two. Eight five mad is an Austin, Texas. Matt great to have you on. Thank you. Great to have you on a sad day. So I thought I sure what to Dan Jenkins story about why he didn't play professional, please let me here. So the nineteen fifty southwest conference championship was at colonial country club in Fort Worth. Which of course is Hogan's alley. Sure. And the key match pitted. Dan Jenkins for TCU against young man named Morris Williams junior for Texas coach by Harvey panic, you know, during Austin Crenshaw kites teacher. So Jake is really good player. He actually had a lead. There were going to finish number nine. So on the seventh hole Jenkins hits it from the fairway to like a few inches away. And he seemed sure to win the match and then Morris g Williams junior hold it on top of Jenkins. And that was the that was the end of Dan that day and the match, and so the story goes that that that's one of kind of why Dan became a writer instead of trying to play on the professional golf tour. You know, I think both both worlds were better off. Yeah, it's true. And just to finish that off Morris. Williams junior was a great kid one of the best players ever at Texas. It would have been a great professional sepT was he was tragically killed. I believe in the the Korean war. I didn't realize so he never got to play. But that kinda ties together, Dan and Harvey panic, and colonial Soave editor that is a that's a fabulous. I mean, everyone who's ever played golf knows Harvey Harvey Penick, and he wrote he wrote literally did write the book on golf. All right. Well, thank you for. Thank you. I really appreciate that store. That is fantastic. Lewis in is up next in South Carolina. How are you lose? I'm fine, sir. Sad day all up. I'm sure you remember would've have been Monday Tuesday you and I talked about Dan jank. We're sure did if sir we mentioned him when when I had called in. I just wanted to relate cookbook quick stores. I try to be brief from his book his own sale. Oh, it's where grades what a great title. And he says there Bryant brought the ritual entertaining writers to the south west hunt. And he invited a group of them his house, but rights and snacks. And the first thing he said is I guess you people? No, I said on everyone view would a bottle of whiskey and a Hooker. And somebody said coach that may have been proved a previous generation, but embarrass it. I'm just missing with you. I know all the u-, upstanding gentleman, or I wouldn't have in my home. That is great. And then and this bet on the same page. I'll be quick tell store that Lynn, Patrick the highly recruited running back. No, sure. And he wanted to wear a headband you might hurt scores. I know. But he wanted to wear a head band, and he three of the players went into talk the bay about lending, Landon, whereas his band, and he said, well, oh, I have no problem with that. And he looked back down his work on his desk guys thanked him and was starting at the door. And bare said tell in each way ahead headbands or a hell. That's a great story. And and then he showed him. He showed him Lee, ROY Jordan helmet and said hit total mid had every call of everything they play when they won the nineteen sixty one national championship. And Dan Jenkins said he walked over and the Sam helmet and noted a smudge of ARIN for Tennessee. Blue Auburn, maroon for Mississippi State yellow for Georgia Tech of the smudges. He said, but I wasn't a club. Reporter I knew teams polish the hell much before every game. And I said nice work who who was your artist. Louis. Thanks for the time. We're at the at the top of the hour much more to come.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The pride passion and patron tree of college. Football leaves Keer is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast and happy Thursday, America. How's it going? It has been an incredible week. This is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul finebaum Paul is on a summit. He will be back in this chair tomorrow. And yeah, did I mention it's been an incredible week. I mean, think of folks think about what has happened in this week on Monday, we celebrated Tiger Woods and winning. The Matt at Augusta and all the spring football that had happened in Tuesday. Rick Barnes, ruffled a few feathers talking about how he almost went to UCLA instead of the bout and then yesterday yesterday, in my opinion, and I'm going to talk about this and just a little bit yesterday was one I believe as a consumer one of the best days of the Paul finebaum show ever. When the guys came on the air. I was in South Carolina meeting. We'll must. Camp. And I wanted to get to Charlotte and time to watch the show I got there. And when the show started they knew one thing the crew new and Paul knew one thing. And that was the fact that it looked like Joe alita was out over the course of the next four hours the staff here, and of course, Paul work that story by the time. They went off the air at seven o'clock, they had evolved story and LSU had a new athletic record. And Scott Woodward. It was a virtuoso performance, and it was made official day, Scott. We'll leaves Texas A and M where he had built an incredible future dynasty at looked like with JIMBO Fisher and bust, William buzz Williams. And then he decided he's a Baton Rouge guy. Family lives in embattled rooch, he has a on the Ellen the quarter it has there. And so this was the statement that he released today returning home to the LSU family to lead the department of athletics is an incredibly humbling and exciting Woodward said. At the state university has been part of my life or more than five decades. Remember he worked there. Back in the early two thousands. And I know and I am brace the high expectations of tiger nation. We will win championships. And we will do it the right way representing LSU with pride and dignity. Every step of the way. I wanna thank president Alexander for the opportunity of a lifetime. And I cannot wait to get started. Go tigers. This is kgo talkable of it later. These are the highest paid S eighties in the SEC. You see the list there starting with Gregg burned down. The Ray Tanner. I did see one less where Scott Woodward was somewhere in the early in the low nine hundred range, but you can see what the what the price is right now. And there's going to there wasn't discussion coming out of Texas AM that you know, this guy probably should have been rewarded before. Now for what he did. I mean, not only JIMBO Fisher, not only buzz Williams four hundred and fifty million dollar upgrade to Cal feel. It was a shot to Texas A and M and later on in the show, we will have somebody, and we will talk about that issue. So where does LSU an LED where do they go from here, and what's going to happen to a Texas AM? It's going to be interesting LSU has got the guy they want. What's going to happen there? We're going to be talking to add and written burger Berg later in the show. All right. And here we are. And again, like I say Paul we'll be back in this chair tomorrow after after doing yeoman's work yesterday. I sent him a note last night and told him so he was very appreciative about that. But I wanna bring for a moment. I want to go to a mand Daniel Bramlett, and of course, producer Mark kubiak. Hey, you guys let me tell you one thing. I haven't watched every show in the last five years of of you guys. Doing the finebaum show. I wrote John Hayes a note to note to this effect for what this show is supposed to do. Show yesterday was an all time or if not the best is one of the best you guys have ever done. Wow. That's I pray is. Thank you. Tony with the show should be a place where you get your SEC news on everyday three seven so in stories like this. It's nice that I wasn't here. John was in there, and John just obviously John dang it all the credit, but they developed the story mostly me and mostly and you guys can develop it in take it through. And that's right with the show is an entertainment show. But we also have a journalistic. Journalism is and all of our DNA. So we do like to you know, anytime we get a story like that that we can follow an advance throughout the course of the show. It's really you're feeling. So glad you enjoyed it. And hope a lot of listeners, by the way. So this show needs to be better than yesterday. So that's that's on you for the rest. That's right. Well, he'll look here's the deal. Find bomb is an old newspaper reporter, and when stuff like this happens those newspaper jeans, they sort of kick in they really do. And you could see that all over the place that Paul was having a blast just chasing that story. So so the question now becomes what's going to happen at Texas AM what's going to happen to LSU? Let's take LSU. All right LSU. Scott Woodward comes into a situation there where again if you wanna call eight five five two four to seven to eight five eight five five to four to seven to eight five, and we'll be here for the next four hours want to get that in we love to have you call. But let's start with LSU LSU is going to be a fascinating thing to watch. Because not only is. Is it or is your on there? They're expecting big things from football. But what's going to happen to the will wait situation as he goes into that is will Wade going to be the coach a year from now. I have my doubts. I think Paul has his doubts too. But to walk into there. And I think the LSU people feel that would Scott Woodward. They're going to get a handle on that. Let's go to Texas. Am what's going to happen at Texas AM now again later in the show, we're going to have Olin Buchanan techs, eggs dot com. And I listened to a podcast that they did this morning. I tell you what the LSU people they are not happy. They're not happy in the least they they're upset because they're losing their athletic director. But they're also part of it is is it happened. All of a sudden, I mean yesterday by the time the Joel Eva thing broke before they got off the air of these guys got off the air yesterday. It was a pretty much a done deal. The key was getting Billy Lucci from Texas dot com, and the Texas M people are going, wait a minute. We got an athletic director who's done everything. We've asked him to do. He's gotten he's gotten football coach that we wanted. He got the basketball coach we wanted. We've got the best facilities in the country. And now all of a sudden out of the under the darkness of night. It seems like he's going to LSU. He's going back home. I believe guys. Again, we bring you guys back. I believe there was reverse engineering going on here. I believe the Scott Woodward made himself available and then when he made himself available, then they broke the news to Joe Aleve. Joe? This is the guy we want, and it ain't you as an alumni. And when you have an alumni who wants to be back at the university, regardless of how well he's done it Washington text saying that opportunity only comes up once in a while. So if that is the case, then go on Scott for taking advantage in looking at the scenario and making it work for him. I think it's like you say Tony a lot of times these stories are reversed the ending is decided than they figured out the plot points to get there. So I think you're probably right. Well, and in a story, let's let's add one. More twists showing one more twist what if two years from now three years from now, Scott Woodward needs a new football coach what's going to happen. Then I promise you guys before I went to bed last night. I got two phone calls from two different friends who follow this stuff closely. And they said Texas AM they got to be nervous. They got to be nervous about losing, JIMBO Fisher. I think there's there's a the seventy five million really good reasons why JIMBO Fisher stays where he is. But again, if you're if you're Texas saying, you got to say is there another is there another shoe to be dropped that we don't know about. And I think we're gonna talk about this story all day long. Again, if you wanna give us a call eight five five two four to seven to eight five here's the lineup for today that we're going to have. And again, they've done a great job. Putting the list together Gus malzahn? I went to see him a couple of weeks ago and just talking about all the issues at Auburn incredible schedule whether they're going to do at quarterback, we'll have him Adam written. Berg pinned a good piece. This morning really looking at the whole thing from both perspectives Olin Buchanan from tex- dot com now he and Billy Lucci cover, Texas. Am better. And finally at the end of the day. We're going to limit lighthearted. My man, Mark slave off the SPN and ESPN dot com. 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We welcome everybody back, and we are here again to take your calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five one. Oh, we start out. Well, let's start out in the great state of Texas met in San Antonio good afternoon. Matt how are you? Mattie, willis. Matt is not with us. Matt call us back. We'll try let's go to run run run your own with Tony Barnhart Goni. Yes, sir. Two and two always equal four. You know, I barely barely got through freshman algebra, Georgia. But I think you're right on that run. And when you said, reverse engineering. I call Paul show. Monday. I believe after. The will wait announcement was made that he was going to be exonerated and come in the back. And the reason I called I didn't talk because I was on hold for so long, but I had a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. That they were going to come after Scott Woodward, right? Call Paul yesterday in the first hour. And broke to him some news about what Luke was saying Billy Lucci. Yup. And and how they were going after Scott Woodward. And you know, it's a done deal. It's all over with that ship is sailed. I wish him the best because he did a wonderful job for us. And I completely understand him wanting to go back. Well, it really go Rondo she's it's really about a chance. It's really about a chance to go home. And it's it's obviously he's gonna make a good salary. That's that's not the issue. The issue was the chant was a chance for him to come home. And he knew this might be the only time that job would be open in the future. Because it looked like Joel liba was out. No matter what it would go ahead. Joe alita was set up is what it looked like to me. And once they have their man, they could go ahead and do what they wanted to do. They can you know, that's chess. That's now. No, right. You're you're I totally agree with what you're doing. It's like I said when I said, reverse engineering, that's the way it happened. We're we're we're not gonna let Joe Aleve. Go until we've got our guy and tell you nobody has. Firmed that to me. But it that's the only thing that makes sense in the timing of it makes sense. So here's here's the question. What went to makes four to two makes Iran. Let me tell you act crazy. This was yesterday. I know somebody who worked within two hundred foot of Scott's office AM. And before I call this show texted him too bad. Scott's gone. And this person said water you talking about. At five forty nine. They called me and said how far do you live from? That's any of them. And I said one hundred miles, and they said how could you know, when I didn't. That's how hush hush. All this was kept. No it was. It was totally yesterday. Iran was one of the great days. Now that only the show it was just it was just a fascinating process to watch it really unfold. And again by the time these guys got off the air at seven o'clock eastern time yesterday, the whole thing had played out in front of it's credible. Ryan, I do appreciate it covers. Here's my question. No guy. Kudos to Scott kudos to LSU. Where do we as aggies? Go next. Yep. And that's that's what we do. We hire next. You have a suggestion. I don't know. But I know because I got to study it I will say this. There are more good athletic directors out there than ever before. They're great ones. But you gotta bring one in who understands the SEC who understands the competitive nature of this league. Who understands how difficult it is weekend. And we I mean what what a great situation for a new AD Ron think about it. You come in with all the facilities you need. You don't have to go on a building spree. You've got your football coach locked in. You've got your basketball coach locked in. You've got the most some of the most incredible fans in the world who support the program. It's not like you've got to come in and rebuild anything. It's all here. There will be a line out the door of. People who want this job. So, but it's incumbent on us to get it right there. Ain't there ain't no doubt about that? Ron I appreciate it. I'm going to scoot now and get to another call. Thank you. All right. Let's go to Harry in New Orleans, Harry. Hey, tony. How you today? I'm doing great. What's what's what's the mood in New Orleans? What's that? What's the mood in New Orleans? Well, I'm not in LSU fan. But I have a lot of friends who all and one question. Nobody made thought of when this thing hol started circulating about coach weight. And then mister Leila is that people are starting to wonder before the Texas A and M news came out yesterday. But the athlete director would coach Kennedy have a chance to get the LSU job? So I I don't know how to take that. But do you think because coach Kennedy left while wish gentlemen, would was at tech San that? They'd be any chance of coach Kennedy getting LSU up to a place. Wait. I don't I don't know. Because I you know, it's a tough. It's a tough situation with Billy Kennedy. They will be again, a no shortage of that. But I don't I don't know how you would know more about Billy Kennedy than I would like him like him a lot. I'm just not sure what the way that. It ended a Texas of is that is that going to be the direction the Scott would go may because of a prior relationship. It's a fair question. I just don't know the answer to it. It's it's quite a question. And I guess many people would think no there's no chance of him getting a job because on the I guess corker called let him go. But you know, we never know it may have been, you know, more than half like director, and we'll find out real soon. I guess on it. But I'm joining the show, and I look forward to spend the rest of the show with you here. I appreciate your call. Let's go to T N t in that tone. Rooch TNT in town route Tony Barnhart. How are you? Sir. I Joey your when you host the show. I think you do good job. And thank you, you you convey a affair figure. Okay. Reshape that. Yeah. The rhetorical question. At the beginning of the show was what does this mean fail issue? What is I'm gonna list of bunch of things going if you'll oblige me. And then if you want to discuss or want to cut me off after that go for TNT, unless you know, I've got about ninety seconds. So go for it. Okay. Well, I'll go quick it means that LSU serious about cleaning house hosted leva, I'll own it. You know, the Devakula's under a path like director. But it's clown class locking laughing stock stuff it was not illegal and his lack of backbone enabled the culprit and stay tuned on that one LSU's power ethic put their collected five down and simplest that enough. And one. Revisit my original statement. It's not done. There's more work to be done. We know about double standards at LSU and in our department in our athletic department, and in the conflict, and you don't have to tell them on that we didn't need another layer of double standards impose a phone is program by our incumbent previous athletic director. We were hitting ourselves on the thumb with with the hammer. Eight AM to survive. They've got the sad dot Woodard. A Woodward is an LSU, man. It's a lot like the eight would saying him lost their Brian the bar, and he proclaimed, mama call. That's all it is. It's our turn. Okay. Tony. It is LSU's turn to have some excitement. Basically, we got rid of an activated directly who probably didn't even life delicacy, but LSU paid him. Well, if day week, oh an. We chose an AU who loved LSU. All right. Tell you. I appreciate you insane. I got I got to scoot. We gotta get to our break. And this is Tony Barnhart sin. Paul finebaum Gus malzahn, the head coach at Auburn is next Tony arts in in. We'll be right back. But pride passion and patterns re of college football leaves Keer. He's the Paul finebaum show, our one podcast and with that. We welcome in our next guest who would love to have number twenty four back in the lineup at full speed, coach Gus malzahn coaches, Tony Barnhart, how're you doing? Hey, doing Drake down what it would be nice to have twenty four back like the days. Would it not? Yeah. There's no doubt. You know? He he was a special player. He's a special coach. I mean that's first time. I saw that piece and he's just had outstanding spring or players really embraced him and really looking forward to next season. Because let's let's go through spring out. I was I was with you a couple of weeks ago, and obviously any conversation you have about Auburn football starts at the quarterback position. Joey Gatewood Bonex both had good springs. Where did you leave with those guys? You don't name a star? You don't have to name a star at this time of year. But where did you leave with those guys after the spring where I think the spring game all four played well, and I thought that was incurring. So you know, anytime you got four guys you feel I can run the offense. That's great the challenges, narrowing it down. And we got great information during the spring matter of fact, we're in the process of meeting with our quarterbacks and talking that through and we will have some kind of order. We're not going to name a starter this spring it'll go into fall camp, but we will narrow down and we'll probably do that in the next couple. Days. You know, we were talking earlier about about the running back position booby Whitlow didn't quite get to a thousand yards. You'd had a thousand yard rushers at Auburn for nine straight years. I know that's a priority to be able to run the ball when you want to run the football. How how did that go? 'cause I knew that was that in the improvement of the offensive line was a big priority in spring. Yeah. You know, be Whitlow and Cam Martin. I mean, those two guys had great springs DJ Williams, the freshman also had a very good spring. But, you know, booby starting with him a guy that hadn't played a lot of running back until last year. He was kind of learning on the run and this spring. I mean, you can tell he's really stepped up more comfortable, of course, came. Martin's been our number two guy the last three years. So, you know, and then the offensive line like you were talking about we have all five starters back. They're all seniors. They were really the bright spot was far spring. Oh, so you know, when you're able to run the football in this league effectively opens everything else up key injuries at receiver last year. Played a big. Pardon in that. It looks like you're in terms of depth in terms of talent. You've got the guys back that you need. Yeah. We think so got enough stove back. And of course, you had a good spring game too. And we'll Hastings we'll be back along with anti sports, which is running track. So with the guys that we had go through spring with those guys, you know, we feel like we've got a good group of receivers. Well, I want to ask you about the defense, particularly the defensive defensive line. You know, everybody talks about you recruiting class in December. And all that, but some of your best recruiting it looks like came with getting those defensive guys to hang around. Yeah. It was definitely the best recruits. We got you know, Derrick Brown Morlin Davis, Nick cold decided to come back, and we feel like we're going to have one of the best defensive lines all college football. And you know, the thing about those three is really felt like they improved in the spring in their leadership their confidence their experience a really set the tone for really not just the defense. But the rest of the team you and I. About this. Last time, we visited a playcalling something that you've been very candid that you enjoy doing. It's been a big part of your career you've decided to resume calling the plays. And people have asked me says, well, why hadn't he always call the place. This is something that you really based on our commerce something you really enjoy. There's no doubt. I mean, that's who I am football coach at my core and real excited to get back out there and work with the offense put offense together, this spring was very refreshing, you know, in this business. This topic job you live and learn and two and a half years ago decided to step back and let the peop- call plays. But you know, I'm really excited. The bowl game was a lot of fun in this spring was and really looking forward to calm place in the fall. So when you when you when you say goodbye to your team, and you sort of let them go into the off season off season conditioning, and all those kind of things what was your message to them. Because this is this is an Auburn team. I have heard from a lot of different. People. You know, feel good about this position that position if if if the quarterback situation falls into place like Auburn hopes it does it could be a good year. Is that kind of the way you sit. Yeah, we had a team meeting the other night, you know, just talking about accomplishing our spring goals. And where we're at as a team, we feel very good about where rather team and really probably more from a leadership standpoint and experienced damn point. And and you to set it. I mean, it's going to be about, you know, who we put out there starting quarterback, you know, to be able to play effectively, and you know, right now, it's going to be an expert inexperienced guy. I mean, that's just the way it goes. But a really like our choices, and I feel confident we'll put it out there that will be ready to play. Well, I was gonna ask about this. I mean, everybody in the SEC plays a pretty tough schedule. Alva plays a pretty tough schedule. Coach. Yeah. Yeah. We've we opened up with Oregon, obviously, you know, there'll be a top ten team. And then you. Kind of go down. This kind of who we go to Texas AM, Mississippi State at home. Then of course, at Florida. We I've not been to Florida before every time we played Florida's been here. And then of course, the second part of our schedule is really unbelievable with the with the road game to LSU. And then of course, we in with Alabama Georgia. So you don't think it's five from what are the other day? It's five top ten teams. I think six in the top twelve so we'd put that schedule probably up against anybody. All right, coach, malzahn, appreciate you times. Good be with you. Thanks for having me. All right. That is coach Gus malzahn. Let's take a call. Let's go to line three who we got west western Augusta west. This is Tony how you doing? Good. Tony. How you doing? I'm doing great. Hey, I just wanted to say, you know, I'm a big Auburn fan. And I gotta say, you know, especially after hearing coach talk, you know, I'm excited for this year's team. I really am. I know there's a lot of question marks. But I think this is young and hungry team. I mean, I think our defense is going to be good just to see stated or de lines to be. I think talk in the country, you know, we'll high out there. Kevin steele. Always keep that defense looking good. Then as far as our offense goes, I think willows gonna set up. I think we back in two thousand yard rusher. You know, I had this much excitement for team in a while, the honest, you know, there's so many question marks, and it makes it exciting and a lot of ways. And you know, I'm confident, you know, in our in our future at quarterback between Knicks and and Joey I mean, I'm there's a lot of excitement on this year's team. And you know, I really think they're going to step up to the plate. I think people are going to be surprised, and I really am. But I was gonna say, you know, all these coaches, I'm really excited about coaching south this year, you know, with Cadillac coming back and. You know, I really think there's gonna be a lot of pencil this team. I wanna hear your thoughts on them. Well, I think I think there couple of keys west distant talking to people that Auburn they were really disappointed in the offense of line. They knew they might struggle a little bit. Now, all those guys are coming back. They've got to be better as somebody explained to me. They gotta be better because they can't possibly struggle as much as they did year ago. So that's key number one. Number two. I I like both quarterbacks obviously, Bo nicks is a legacy Joey Gatewood is so athletic. You know, he's not he's he's not Cam Newton. Okay. But he is a big athletic quarterback. And they've gotta get the run portion of the offense bat running quarterback back into it. You know, you could tell last year with Jarrett stidham, obviously has an NFL arm. But there are times when the quarterback has to run the ball or you're playing ten on eleven I'm anxious to see how a mouse on put that aspect of the game back in is that the way you see it. Now, I was gonna say, you know, and I don't mean to blame anyone. But you. In some ways. I think stood them holding the ball. Too long definitely made her offense of wine, you know, shorter more than they really needed to in a lot of ways. That's why I think having a little bit mobility at quarterback this year will actually you'll see a lot of improvement. How the line, and I was really surprised with the Knicks athleticism in the spring game. I don't even think he could move as well as he did he can move. So I often confidence in him. I know, you know, he's a freshman by we'd have to see. I mean, I really am excited. And then you know, the other two quarterbacks lead good. I don't think chords, you know, ready to take a starting job yet. But the other two are really good. I'm not, you know, taking them out of the discussion for taking that. Sorry job either. All right. Wes, I appreciate your call and call next time. Okay. All right. We gotta take you bring. We will be back. We're here to take your calls at eight five two four to seven to eight five eight five five two four to seven to eight five. This is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul finebaum. We will. The pride passion and Patrie of college. Football leaves Keer is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Welcome everybody back. We're here to take your calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five got a full show today after big yesterday. Let's go to Dan. In LSU, Dan about the Louisiana, but LSU, Dan is Tony Barnhart. How are you? County. A big fan of yours is to pirated talented, you mop, the pleasure is all mine. So what? So what do you think Scott when going LSU? Well. I think it's gonna be great for LSU. You know, it seems like he's he's done everything. Right. So far, I'm excited about it. You know, I'm going to ask you a couple of things about that. Sure. Do you think Scott words, first priority will be fire will way? As say, well, I think he's first priority is figuring out. What what the situation is? Because we don't know what the situation is all we know is he was suspended until he talked to the tail LSU and their investigators, and lawyers which he's now done and been reinstated. We don't know what's going to happen with the NCWA. We don't know what's going to happen. When the FBI we don't know if he's going to be asked to testify in this trial or not, and none we don't know any of those things. And so Scott Woodward has got to come to campus and figure it out. I think the thing's gonna take a while to play out. And then once he's got the information he'll figure it out whether or not a change needs to be made. What else you got? Well, I was just thinking couple of things and and as probably premature but. You know, I think I really think we'll way is kind of. He's he's kinda heard LSU in a way, do you? Well, the question how how you define hurt. I mean ev- every listen everybody, Dan, everybody in this process has done. What's been legally required of them? Okay. Finally. We'll Wade got on got on board and LSU is not. I don't think they're in a position to fire him now because he's complied with his with his part of his contract, which means which says you get you got compl- ply and talk to the lawyers. So I think you gotta let it play out. It's never good. When one of your coaches is mentioned in possible illegality or possible. Incidentally, rules, breaking but you, but you've got you've got to let it play it. You don't have enough information. And what you do if you're LSU. I think now they're going to sit there and let it play out and then make a decision. Well, you know, I believe. Scott order, would you are would would do the right thing. I really do. And I agree with you. Hey, dan. I've gotta run. I appreciate you guys. And you push it to come. Let's go to Matt in San Antonio Mattis. Tony barnhart. How are you? Under the Berne. Look, I'm worried about just got everything he'd gone now, as you know, I agree. One hundred percent what happened if he goes the JIMBO Fisher two three years from now. 'cause what happened is Hugh coach can't win and championship there. And we lose JIMBO Fisher L is Hugh. It's gonna put us in advance issue with because deputies right down the road in Austin. An is looking at the chops to see what happened JIMBO Fisher in what kind of athletic director. We get mill. I think this is a fascinating part of this story. Now, it's easy to say why it's not going to happen right away. And I don't think it is going to happen right away. Okay. It around here. Away with ten in three last year. Okay. And they they lose a terrible seven overtime game to Texas AM where they're sitting there at at eleven wins. And they you know, they have they've they've improved their offense by bringing in either leave by bringing in Joe Brady from from the saints. So I think they're going to be a pretty good football team. So you got to let this, but but man, I will say this about your spot on in this regard. I get two phone calls last night. I'm Charlotte spending tonight here in Charlotte. I get two phone calls last night. I said how long is it gonna take for Scott Woodward to go after JIMBO Fisher? And so people are. I why he left he did a lot for this university of him. I kind of respect. Why he is the session. But on the same time, I'm disappointed that he left. Well, I can understand that. But here's here's the deal when you get a chance to go. I think and I have talked to Scott what the press conference is not till next week. I I'm just telling you what I believe what I believe is that the the he Scott Woodward knew that the opportunity might come up, and I believe he made himself available. I believe he hired before Joel Leyva was let go, and I believe that's the way that this thing worked, and I you can't blame him regardless of wall. I want to leave but I like to questions for Daytona Brard. How do you what did you think of the spring football game in our secondary for this? You're coming football season. I'm sorry. You talking about LSU's football team, Texas stadium. Smart Baltic team are secondary last year. It was pretty bad this year, the things get better. I Don that I think they're going to get better. I really do. I I've got I don't know if you saw it. I've got LSU finishing second in the division. A lot of people would disagree with that. I think they're going to be significantly improved. And they're gonna again things seem to happen. The second year for whatever reason, I think the system gets in. They get people get more comfortable. I think the fact that killing mind is back. The defence is I think absolutely gonna get better. Now got a brutal schedule gotta go to Clinton and schedule. Very brutal. You know? But but you know, what everybody's got that. Hey, Matt, I'm gonna run take one more call. Appreciate you calling. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's go to Ernie in Tennessee, Ernie. It's Tony Barnhart. How are you today? Ever spoken to you. Tony. Listen to you a lot in your very nose. We'll person I have a I have an appreciate your time. And I have a question. I know my Georgia BULLDOGS are doing pretty good then recruiting well and since Kirby has took over and and doing a really good job. But it seems we're we're still. Thanks in Alabama are still probably ahead of us in recruiting even though we have great recruiting classes, and we're right there in the mix, but we can't seem to get over that hump because destitute obstacles in the way of us. Went in Nashville tip is here are well. There's no question that those those of the top two teams right now. But what Ernie? Here's what you can't do. You can't get hung up on one two and three if you've got one of the top three or four recruiting classes in the country, you're doing fine after that point. It's all about coaching them up. And when you get to the big game find a way to win. It Georgia has obviously been right there. Okay. They've been right there knocking on the door and his ilk coats said if you keep knocking on the door sooner or later, your gonna kick the sucker down. Okay. So I I believe that's where Georgia's right now. The job is going to have a really good team and got Notre Dame coming to their place. Hey, thanks for calling. I appreciate it. Ghana? Call us again next time. So we are here. Seventy for Paul finebaum. We won't your. Ause at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We have got a full show today. We've got one hour in the books is always a whole lot of fun. Tony Barnhart sent here for Paul finebaum. This is the Paul finebaum show. See you.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion and patterns re of college football lives here. The the Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast. Our has arrived in the let's update you on what you may have missed if you're just joining us. Rumors all day. The Joa liba was being forced out at LSU confirmed about forty five minutes ago by the school saying that he is leaving his position to become special assistant for donor relations. For the president. In other words, he was forced out. But that was not the big story of the day. The big story came about thirty minutes ago when Billy Lucci joining us here said that Scott Woodward, the very successful athletic director at Texas am the man who brought JIMBO Fisher from Florida state and just two weeks ago, brought buzz Williams from Virginia Tech is leaving as well. Leaving to go to Baton Rouge his hometown to work at LSU, his alma mater, that has not been confirmed, of course, but many indications that we have in college station have been suggesting that for the last two hours. So that is where we are with only one more hour to go. My guess is that we'll probably hear more in the next few minutes. Let's get back to the calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. The Rick Barnes was the big story yesterday. Now today, it is all about LSU and Texas. A am Donnie is Jackson. You're up next. Go right ahead. Hello there. I've got a question for you. I've been looking at the News Radio paper is the place. And if I'm not mistaken, your name was mentioned about regards any that something smells foul. It's an essay. Do you think it's the whole athletic department or just the basketball? Yeah. Listen, I was oh pining yesterday that that maybe something was a muck many have pushed back on that saying that Rick Barnes considered UCLA because it was UCLA. He admitted he was left. They helped him with the buyout. I I don't have any independent information that would suggest that there is a serious rift. I was just using common sense. So. I know Phil Phillip Fulmer did everything he could to keep him. He did. I also know that when you have negotiations like that sometimes there is a a specific reason why you get to that point. I don't know what that is. I think it's probably water under the bridge. Now that Barnes has stayed and said what he did. Okay. Liza Barnes is staying at Tennessee because he has to or because he won't stay and as he's staying there because he wants to is that a good reason to say, well, listen, I think it's pretty obvious based on what he said that if if UCLA had covered his buyout. He would have been gone. Yeah. So you have to start with that does that make him a bad person? No. It means that he just wants ready to leave. Now what I don't understand is this considering how much he's done for Tennessee. And they don't lot for him. I mean, it's it's worth remembering for years ago. Rick Barnes was fired by Texas and believe it was Dave Hart. The. Director offered him a lifeline. He was not in heavy demand. He needed a unique situation, and he got it. And he's done a phenomenal job of why he was ready at the age of sixty four try something new. I don't know considering he has a really great job where he is. And by the way, in my opinion, only here's a better job than UCLA. Exactly. The same thing. You know, I was thinking, you know, he's getting close to being, you know, retirement age, you know, while he won't believed in say, I don't understand that in. I'm I'm I'm not that far behind him in age. And I started thinking, well, I mean, do you want us to your successful? Where you are. Do you want to just throw that all away to go to a place that that has been a revolving door when it comes to coaches and just because he was once great doesn't mean they are ever going to be great again. In fact, I don't think they are going to be, and you know, that being said, you know, him having a great job here close to retirement age making a lot of money. I mean. I mean, I mean he's making. I mean good for him. But I think the one thing I will take away in other than his honesty. It's pretty it's pretty apparent. Now. He wasn't trying to play one versus the other. He really wanted to leave. And which makes me wonder why Tennessee gave him so much money. Rathers me rod as long to leave so bad. Well, you know, could it be that? He I mean, he I know he's got some big time recruits coming in. But he's also losing the nucleus of his team, which maybe he maybe he he looks around the SEC, and, you know, competing against a will waves of the world. Maybe he just doesn't want to deal with that anymore. Well, he's a professional coach. That's what he's supposed there. I agree. Listen, I don't. I am baffled by said that we're yesterday people got upset, but I'm still baffled by by what he said. And what he's done. I would like I would have preferred him to to say man, I'm just I can't tell you. How excited I am going to spend the rest of my career at Tennessee instead steady. He said he would left, but. I'm stuck really trying to give you any more than that. Well, I agree with you as far. Why would he want to go to UCLA, you know, this this it just one is three here? But I'm just, you know, something I think I read them basically today that you said something kind of smells file. Yeah. I just said, I I I think I said yesterday just feels like something is wrong. I know. I mean, listen nobody ever wants to think anything is wrong. But you know, when you you're not both experience a lot of things in the workplace, and you would be amazed. Not you Donnie. But a lot of people that you know, what triggers people to want to leave. I mean, if you would tell me at seven o'clock this morning that Scott Woodward was going to leave AM for LSU. I would have fallen out much air. But there's obviously a reason why he thanks for the call really do appreciate. But that's the one thing. I've. Sat with people in my industry television and heard some of the most successful people in their in their job making gobs of money. Act like no one in the company thinks they're worth anything and use. You just don't know. It's like, how do you know what's going on next door to your house for your -partment? Whatever it is a things are very surprising sometimes hairy in New Orleans, Harry. Go right ahead. Hey, Palma first trip to the midnight. I'll on the show. It's pretty crazy here at the six o'clock hour. Well, I'll tell you a great a great a great line for the LSU segment would have been Raklli, I'm for athletic director. Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, but anyway, Paul will we you would know this because you've dealt with these things, but we'll ever know or does a university usually not tell you a meeting you all of what why they ended up letting athletic director goal is that something you have to figure out for yourself. I think we will figure it out eventually, and I tell you what I think it is Harry and just from a distance. It just seems to me that you have a coup going on right now. In in Baton Rouge. You have someone has finally wrested the power away from the university. And they wanted a leave out, and if the tea leaves? Are accurate king? Alexander will be next. Well on coach bonds foil. I watched him the other day when you had a more on video over him talking about the his situation. Don't you think it's possible? So many people in these positions can can actually really get aggravated, you know, logistical things along I don't know what it could be. But when he appeared to be agitated he appeared to be unhappy. Yeah. I mean considering he just had a great season. He didn't look particularly happy, but it ended and I don't want to rain on his parade. But I said it a month ago. And and I believe that I felt like Tennessee failing to get to the final four was was an unsuccessful season. And I'm sure he felt some of that as well, especially. He's got to be feeling that from from critics in journalists and everything sometimes things can can aggravate. Okay with what else to who are the two biggest disappointments in the tournament. Well, it was Kentucky in Tennessee. Because you thought they they both had a great wh what happened immediately after both teams loss. Both coaches got a new contract because the same school came call. I mean, that's the best way to get people's attention off of what happened in that's to appear like you may be leaving. And then stay, and it's a pretty successful. Ploy? That's a guy. I was thinking of a nicer word, but that's a good. Well, Paul I enjoyed the whole show today, and I'm gonna finish up the rest of it. And thank you for taking my call. And you have a good one. Thank you very much. It was reported in the New Orleans paper that I did not realize this that Scott Woodward has a I I'm assuming this as a camping a hunting camp in grand isle. He's got his family lives in Baton Rouge. Which we I guess you knew since he's from there, and he has an apartment in the French quarter. So he his roots are pretty deep in Louisiana. We're up against the break to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast back. Your calls momentarily right now. Ralph Izzo joining us the college football writer for the Associated Press Ralph it has been a busy day down here with Joe Aleve 'as removal, and the likelihood of Scott Woodward going from. AM to LSU as we say Hello to you. Good afternoon, and your reaction to all of this. Yeah. Busy day in LSU. You know, the Leyva thing has sort of been percolating what for like three or four years now. I mean, I seriously starting with him trying to oust less miles at the end of I guess it was the two thousand sixteen season. I'm getting a little blurry here. And it wasn't that LSU fans necessarily. We're sad about trying to get rid of let's miles. It just that they did it in such an awkward and disrespectful way and ever since. Then it hasn't been a very good look for Aleve. I think that he has not been a very popular guy at LSU. And then the we the will Wade thing happened this year again the fans come down on a lever. So that wasn't necessarily shocking, and nor is it shocking. That Scott would would would be the replacement because he is a Baton Rouge guy with ties to the school. The fact that it happened so quickly clearly. That that you know, maybe hip out of the hat to LSU that had had all the ducks in a row here and wasn't just sort of. You know? No, I'm not. No, not the nicest thing to do to Joe alita to negotiate with his replacement before he is even out the door. Nonetheless. I think it inefficient day for LSU if they can get this all tied other way or less. Les miles on line. One thing. It's a terrible thing to do. He agrees with you. It in by the way. Scott Woodward has such a deep ties to that community. Not only did he work as Mark emerets right hand man, when he was the chancellor at LSU, but he was also in the political consulting business air for a number of years. So it might lot of people would say why does anyone want to get into that morass? But I mean, this is a guy that lived in it and profited quite well. Oh, and and listen, you know dysfunction in Texas have gone hand. Yes. Mine too. So he's done a nice job at Texas AM bringing a certain amount of stability. But he's also the guy who just ended a football coach a seventy five million dollars ten year guaranteed contract. And now is no longer responsible for that contract. Zach to me that's not a bad idea to leave. Because if that's being goes bad, not my problem. No, it was he'll he'll he'll tell us friends at LSU. It. Sure was nice spending their money. Right, right. I do think it is interesting though. Like Woodward is definitely a guy. He made a big splash higher at Washington with Chris Peterson. He made a big splash higher at Texas. Am with JIMBO Fisher did a nice job getting buzz Williams in there as the basketball coach at Texas. Am as well. Edwards? Run is not on the hottie. Let's make that very clear, but we also understand the nature of the SEC means the hot seat is almost a weekly if not by weekly event, right? I mean, you know, that's Gus malzahn about what the hot seat is at Auburn. I it literally runs hot and cold. And or is your on sort of lived in that row world a little bit to where you know, a two game losing streak all the sudden puts you on the hot. So I am interested. This the how this plays out with Woodward's not being the one who hired or you're on. How if things go a little bad? Is he itchy to sort of make a big splash higher? If that just becomes lessens the leash on orange, Iran. If things were to go bed not that I'm saying they will. But if things get a little sour at LSU is a guy like would would more likely to pull the trigger sooner rather than later and tells you interesting there there's so much history of between these two schools and. Not only did they play the longest game of the year this year in seven overtimes, but you had shave this leaving LSU for AM and my memory's. Correct Aranda was about to go work for JIMBO Fisher until LSU coughed up enough money to keep him almost three million dollars a year. So the the road between Baton Rouge in in college station is well traveled. There's a lot of money being spent by these schools to try to catch Alabama, right and Chile to schools are just the low in money at the problem that is that is that we're stuck behind Alabama there. There was a bottomless pit of money to pour into this. Neither of them seem to be gaining on Alabama. By the way, they are spending a ton of money to try to gain on Alabama. But that that's the goal though. I mean, the only the only school that seemingly has made some inroads is Georgia. Right and Georgia doesn't have to deal with Alabama. I'm their backyard. Right. And that's the the main difference here is that Georgia only has to see Alabama in the SEC championship game or maybe the national championship game. But rarely does it actually have to bang has with Alabama and Georgia did is it took the Alabama blueprint and put all the cool things that Georgia now has around it. I mean, there's a long list of things that have gone on endured that have placed it in this position is far as high school football and the recruiting area that have made it a the given Georgia the ability to possibly compete with Alabama. But the ones who are in direct competition with Alabama. They're just spending money like drunken, sailors and running on a treadmill in place. Yeah. And you mentioned or is you're on the railway situation. You have to believe that will take care of itself pretty quickly here. Maybe maybe sooner rather than later or is Ron is expected to have a really good team. But if you. If you if you check recent AD changes, it seemed like some sort of change usually happens fairly quickly either in basketball or football. I you wonder if with origin, Iran, you know, he's he's a favorite son on one hand down there and LSU, obviously, he has you know, he's he's he's literally one of them. Right. So I think that there's probably a great desire among Elvis, you fans for him to be successful because he is very much one of us. Right. But I also think that that balance is off with a certain skepticism because remember when they when they hired ores Ron another reason, why leva wasn't necessarily beloved is because they thought well, we're just sort of settling for our interim coach as opposed to actually running a real search, and they sort of got burned because Tom Herman played them a little bit right with the do of like, hey, I I'm interested in your job. But really, I just want Texas, ante up and get moving. So. They landed on order on in a way that I think was never totally satisfying, which again lead to this bigger picture of what is at ores Ron future there. Now again, they should have a really good team. He could be there for ten years and be super successful and eventually catch Sabin. But things are things move. So quickly in the SEC. You could also see like a one bad year. And all of a sudden, there's another uprising at LSU. And here's the new boss who has a history of making really splashy hires. Now, I imagine the higher. He would really like to make is JIMBO Fisher. Wow. Jimbo certainly has some connections to LSU. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, I mean that was the guy that they wanted to hire at LSU before Scott would would would. But when Joel liba was there JIMBO has always been the guy to now, I don't think jimbo's leaving a ten year seventy five million dollars contract. But that dynamic makes it interesting as well that whole LSU taxes AM dynamic is fascinating on a lot of levels. I say this tongue in cheek, but I'm sure someone will misinterpret, you know, the the guy that would has already circled to bring back till issue to bring back home is Nick Sabin, of course, because right Nick was there when you're was absolutely now, the two the two relatively close friends to the it's just a a baffling day in you you live in the in the world of the Associated Press. And the the ink is not even dry on the breaking news at the Aleve has officially been removed. We already had the story that Woodward has replaced him. I like those kind of days, don't you? I do. I mean it especially when it's what it April seventeenth or so and usually this is a bit of a quiet time. So I know for you. This was probably a great day because he didn't have to recycle like, you know, wait too early college football. And and you know, and who's going to be the best quarterback in the SEC west story. Hey before you go you wrote about this. And we this was the main impetus behind talking to you about has the incidentally, overdone the graduate transfer. Right. I mean, they're looking at is a they'll vote on a possible proposal or proposal this week that could amend the route some rules that have to deal with graduate transfers the crux of it is if the amendment were to pass a school a team would be on the hook for two years of scholarship, if they take a graduate transfer even if the kid the player is gone in one year. So I think it's a meant to we're going to cool the market here. We're not gonna take away from the kids side. We'll just put the onus on the coaches, and the end the tease because you you would think that while the Jalen hurts his of the world. I'm sure a lot of schools will say listen, I'll burn that extra year scholarship. No big deal. But for a lot of other players who are not necessarily Jalen hurts type talent. I would think that you'll have coaches and and programs that will be a little more cautious about diving into the grad transfer market. Now, I don't know if this thing is gonna pass the big twelve is not. Not necessarily on board. It sounds like the MAC is. But I think what's going to happen. Here is the smaller leagues. The and this is effected basketball too. So the mid majors in basketball at CS is involved in this too. I think the ones that look at this grad transfer situation and think of it as our teams are being used as farm teams were the power five may vote for it. And that might be enough to get it through. But I think as you go up the chain and the conferences, you know, to the AC and the power five there's not as much support for it. So I don't think this is a slam dunk on Friday, but it would really reconfigure the grad transfer market if it were to pass great stuff Rafa middle of April should be a quiet time anything, but great to have you on. Thanks rougher. So from the on the busy Wednesday two more days this week. Well, thank you. Brian. Get your reaction to all of this in our final thirty minutes. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back final thirty minutes. And it's all yours today. Five five two four seven to eight five give us a ring if you'd like to get on and Jeff is in Columbus, Ohio. Hello, jeff. What's going on Paul? Just a quiet day. Jeff. What about you? I mean my goodness. Hey, you guys have the are Alabama has their spring game Saturday in the famous theme Stiller calling. They must be really down and out. I mean, I've heard Jerome even call the other day, and you even got that guy to laugh or for the for the they didn't cover this in the spring game. I don't think they covered. And I didn't hear anything about how great to a was this year either. So I'm a little caught off guard with that how how are the buckeyes looking? They're looking nice, man. I'm looking really nice Paul with this get feel settled in the summer in the games on dressing fields. I think three three completions for four yards. Wasn't it? He had at least one ninety seven yard touchdown. My man. I'm sure you must've read the talk high Michigan by I d I don't get the big ten network where I live. Oh, that's right. That's right. Hey, what's going on down there in the SEC day minute's like the wild wild west down there? I mean, all these schools and Baynes act like he got this brotherhood SEC SEC SEC hit with a suit as you can stab another school in the back of. Athletic director. Well, they happening through times memberships the wild wild west wet Saiki, your voice, aching going to step in Paul is. I'm sure he he he'll say just means more just needs more. I mean, I tell you what you gotta just throw that money around. Like, he just printing. It like you do and it's just it's just funny. I mean, where's that lets? You get all this money. I thought they were about bankrupt a couple years ago. It's what I don't understand what that mess down there. You know, what I found interesting today we had Seth Walder on from ESPN. Analytics did you hear that segment? I did not. I'm sorry. I did not. Well, he he said that they put the data together. And they came up with the projected final four at the end of the college football season. You know, who it is? No give it to me. Clemson. Alabama georgia. In michigan. We gotta get out of big ten. I he said they did not have faith in Ryan day, a new quarterback and all the changes. I mean, I can see that. I mean, that's gonna be. I mean, I I'm if I'm a quote unquote, college football expert, I probably go that route to I mean, it's the safest route that what's Michigan got the that? They've that they have the transfer second-year transfer from ole miss, right, right? I mean, the less horrible. Let's get out there. And use them is still. I mean, what's what's the big deal about having a, you know, a gunslinger back there when you're still running the wing t you know, what I'm saying I hear you. But anyway, that's fine. Let them say I mean, most years the experts are wrong anyway. So that's true. That's no big deal. I mean Bill has been right ever since Dana canal got off up. Remember, anyway, I mean, what the gonna stop all this nonsense and saying all pay. Listen, and that they stack they smack each hood arouses. This is how we roll down here. I guess so I kind of liked it looks kind of fun to watch on the form. I that. Jeff call again soon. Please Robert is up next in Baton Rouge. Hey roberts. Yeah. How you doing? Yeah. I wanted to talk about the wheel waste, it's wasting. So do you think that it would be fair to still get rid of little weight? If it comes out next week that there is no financial transaction being well that was made. Well, you got to remember something. He's on tape. It has to be proven that the tape didn't exist. Now, some people I think are going to jump to a conclusion that if he doesn't testify doesn't mean anything. But you know, I've yet to hear anyone dispute that he said that on the tape. I want to hear an explanation probably as much as you do. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, of course. Because I mean, it's obvious everybody. Here's the part of the strong offer. But a is like you say you want to know exactly what he meant by the song core. I'm hoping I'm hoping he testifies because I think it would be a riveting to hear what he has to say exactly I'll think you'll make the university of look a little better for us. But I just wanna know like, I don't think that even if it does come out about the tape like, you know, about the tape. What like what would be done if there is no finance insurance action. Would it still be okay to keep them? I think the NCW interpretation of that would be that. He was still breaking the rules trying to to make that transaction. Even if he didn't consummate the transaction. Okay. I see what you're saying. It may not be enough to get him fired everywhere. Obviously it wasn't enough to get him fired at LSU. I think he's listening to there's a there's a mystery right now on whether he lives her dies. I don't know. If it's good news that there's a new athletic director coming in there because not not that the past baggage would matter, but new AD like to clean clean house. Yeah. They usually, you know, get new hires and stuff like that. But what we think of LSU as a new heya Kennedy for the head basketball. Coach who do you think they'll try to target for it and LSU? Yeah. It's a good question. Because you know, we no longer have Joel even making the call. We have Scott Woodward likely to be making the call. He just got through hiring buzz Williams. But the reason why broad buzz in was buzz had a connection to the school. He had formerly worked there. He was from Texas. So I couldn't begin to guess on on what would happen. Next. I I do know Scott pretty well. He he knows how to find talent. Because I mean like LSU basketball Kroger and basically just got revived. And all this. You know confrontation surrounding the program, you think recruitment even wanna be part of this program. Still we're gonna find out in the next couple of days because we're in national signing day right now Roberts. I I think it will be very doubtful. Thank you for the call. Great to have you on final break is head and we will get to your phone calls in just a moment. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Oh, taking some more phone calls here and Brandt is in Baton Rouge. Hey brandt. Hi, Mr. finebaum either. I was calling today because I just heard the earlier caller on the will wait thing. And I think there's some things that have been left out of the whole equation. When you talk about it on your show like so. Earlier in the ESPN report the. Weekend ellis. I mean, not Arbor was facing Virginia. The ESPN report noted that the prosecution wanted will Wade's testimony scrubbed because it had no relations to darkens, right? And along with that that means that whatever might be on those tapes, there just doesn't seem to be any evidence of financial. Makings between the two. Yeah. Listen based on the LSU decision this week, it's entirely possible that they believe that he will not end up testifying. I mean, it's to his advantage to skip New York. Oh, absolutely. There's no doubt about that. And if he doesn't end up testifying you're more than likely that the recordings will be left. And no, I mean, he he will probably keep his job. And and, but I I think I think I think they're the the ruling by the judge is the most important thing that's going to happen to will way this week by far. I couldn't agree with you more on that at least. And you're you're right. I I'm not sure what the judge is trying to June Kate, but it's entirely possible that it may not be germane to the actual trial. But hey, I don't know how it couldn't be. But who knows thanks for the call. Appreciate it very much. Lester is in Atlanta. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Eightfold? Our you are doing great. Thank you. Hey, just wanted to kind of that the early investigation the wire tapping, you know, a lot of times investigations go on and they feel like they can pay a part of the the the sample of the conversations on the phones, and they can actually use that in some way. But it may have been where let we'll wait was dot speaking from for a first person he may have been found of using this is like a metaphor sherbert when you when he was speaking about the the money and the the deal that they were working out. It might have been that. We was referring to LSU is a great deal to attend school there, and he and may have laughed in the process jokingly, but be. The I will take that. And they'll use that as evidence to try to persuade you to, you know, tell the truth in and try to get more out of you sherve. Yeah. I understand that really affects little bit of information that you can use in court. So that's why they really and you also have to wonder Lester, no no-one really talked about this. But how did this news organization? Get the the the FBI wiretap, and what was the incentive for the individual or individuals who leaked it. What were they trying to accomplish there? Well, it primarily wanted to get some information from we'll wait side and Dulken side where they communicating and using that as evidence on dolphins right ever. We'll wait by by the way, you know, probably could've used the metaphor type of language in speaking about LSU, referencing them as a great. Deal or a deal that they shouldn't the kids shouldn't pass up and the FBI could've taken that just that soundbite and used it as they bit of evidence that he could probably draw in we'll wait to court and possibly get him to say something different. So it's not actually affect right now. Because that information has not been released in. We'll wait was forbidden from saying anything about it. They wanted to get him in court to try to twist him up and find out if he could say something other than what was said on those tapes because he really didn't have any idea what he said on those tapes. While said less if I ever get in trouble. I'm gonna ask you to represent me. Thank you very much. Joe is up next. Hey, joe. Good afternoon Bal. How you doing today? Great joe. Well after listening to give up fair and how he got to be. Well, I wouldn't go say the dumbest dummy from America's Georgia the done that yoga is you're saying that Nick from Georgia's the dumbest collar on the show. Hey, the dumbest person ever that. The dumbest person ever. I like that by the I'm looking around the studios anyone disagrees, and he hands. Well. Well, he needs a trove if dumbest person of the century. But anyway, this thing with LA down at LSU. You know, they say to me, they just keep having probably coaches like that know, how to have them, but thing was less miles. And then I think they waited extremely too long. We'll wait to do what they did today. But it just the the whole administration and LSU just think jolly I mean, I know high school programs that had bad things, but they're not as bad as as LSU, and it just seems to keep getting worse. But now like coach oats that Alabama just hired. And how do you think he's going to be doing this year? He I don't know. Joe? I know he's waiting like everyone in Alabama for the player from mountain brook to make a determination. He's certainly looking seriously at Memphis LSU, Alabama. I think Alabama's got a shot at him. That would be a big boost to the new coach. Thank you for the call. Great to have you on. We check out Adam next, Adam go right ahead. How do you think? Oh, do you say that Alabama? If Alabama had Clinton scheduled last year, do you think that they would have beat Clinton the national championship? If Clinton had Alabama schedule this year. I mean last year. I think I understand where you're going. I don't think it would have mattered. I think Alabama had a more formidable schedule but not by much Alabama's toughest game. Last year was going to Baton Rouge. And it turned out to be a a a wipeout Alabama. I had to play Georgia which was more difficult than Clemson playing Pittsburgh. But by the time, we got to January seven I I don't think any of the schedule really mattered. I think it would mattered was Clemson was a much better team. On that night in Alabama was really beginning to disintegrate. I do appreciate it very much for call. Anyway, updating the big news of the day. Joe Aleve pushed out at LSU. And it appears very likely that Scott Woodward, the athlete director at Texas AM. We'll take his place we've seen this nothing quite like this. But remember, Scott stricklin left? Mississippi State a couple years ago to replace Jeremy Foley the circumstances. We're much friendlier though. We'll see you tomorrow. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The fried pack and then patron Torri of college football lives here. The is the Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. We welcome you back. So glad you are with us. And the story of this day has been the end of Joe elisa's tenure as LSU's at leading director. He apparently did not survive a board of supervisors meeting last night. And the speculation has been rampant all day that he was about to be replaced and officials beginning to confirm that story. Now in Baton Rouge alita has been there almost ten years came there. More more than ten years came there from Duke where he was embroiled in a towering inferno better known as the Duke lacrosse controversy where he was blamed for a lot of it not all of it today. They're certainly had culpability, but his days are finally numbered and very few people in Louisiana seem the least bit concerned that he is on his way. A out of very on popular athletic director. So who will take his place number of candidates have risen to the top of the wishlist? But the man who most people think LSU covets, the most is Scott Woodward. Scott Woodward is an LSU graduate. And he's a Baton Rouge native. He is the current athletic director at Texas AM. And really when this story first broke very few people thought, he would consider it. But friends of Scott Woodward or telling me late this afternoon that he is homesick that he would certainly consider what almost everyone believes is going to be a tempting offer whether the structure the hierarchy at AM is to his liking or not he has been a phenomenal athlete director. They're bringing in JIMBO Fisher the man that. Joe Aleve tried and failed twice to hire. As less miles replacement and ultimately getting buzz Williams two weeks ago, one of the top coaching hires of the off season. So that's where we are. Busy busy Wednesday on our program. More of your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and. Joseph is up next in Mississippi. Hello, joe. I was going on tonight. Tonight was doing great. Thank you, very much cry. Thank you so much. I mean, what you just now say I mean, I'm telling you what a lot of sentiment is round. Here is I wished I would just I mean unless you could take Ross Bjork as well to think. But now he's done a lot of good things for our university. But. It's Christ may say that. But I mean, having the pavilion done and having our great other coaches hard stuff like that. But. This is crazy to me think that everything that's been going on. And there's so much division. Oxford right now is is sort of mumbling as let's say for sure, but. If you want to chime in on that, can well, let me let me listen, I am somewhat unfamiliar with what the disatisfaction with Ross Bjork in. What's what does it concern? Well, like I called last week and goal about from Dixon, we love, and he doesn't want that plate every gin and also statue move into Morial. I mean stuff like that. I mean, there's there's a huge division. There's going on right now. And. I'm not really sure I mean, I'm I'm telling you, this is gonna be really sad for football station this year because even though on have great team with right quarterback. We have other coming in. We had a pretty decent class coming in. And we've got these great coaches at school. Now, look man, I know he's coats. But this is a trying time right now. And I'm gonna let you know this when there's over four thousand people that are not renewing their season tickets not giving in my university that studies almost half empty. You know, let me let me offer this this Joseph. I will I will get to the bottom of it. I apologize for not having done it where this came up about a month ago. When when Bowe bounds was on the program. He unloaded on Ross Bjork and talked about that situation Bjork when after bounds publicly instead, it wasn't true that the ticket sales have been very good. I don't know the listen, I don't really know policy Mr Paul lesson and also Asian things that are whenever they started. All this stuff. They said oh miss. We're all these be all misrepre will always be almost rebels. Well, now, they started taking this away input. This script him on some of our charges and stuff, and that's not all mess like they're fading into way. I'm telling you what is going on. And there's a lot of people's very dissatisfied. I'm citing me know, and if you get became too, you'll find out I mean, I'm a Massachusetts. I don't I don't doubt it. But and I will be in that area. Not too far in the distant future. I'll see if I can find out a little bit more. Hey, thank you for the call. Brian is up next in South Carolina. Brian welcome to the program. Liz to Paul. How are you? Good looking. Thank you very much. Big Hello to the boys in the box. I just wanted to tell you how I really feel today Nick Sabin with his hip. I don't know I'm not being ugly. But I just think he's a bit of drama Queen myself, but complains a lot. But I guess, you know, you know, whatever this Joe Leyva. I'm I mean, honestly from a distance. I I'm surprised he's still there. I mean, I laughed at LSU for many situations over the last few years moving onto my Gamecocks. You know, like what in the heck is going on baseball team. We got a great coach just were we need to figure that out. But I am excited. Frank Martin, of course, chose to not go to cincy. He's a great, man. And definitely a great coach. And we definitely looking at the. Recruits. We have coming in. It's gonna be great coming here shortly. And lastly to the football team. I hope everybody continues overlook our team were improved in the running back. We're definitely better on the offensive line were equally as good if not better, I know. It sounds crazy on wide receiver the debate going, but we're going to be equally as good or better. Listen. Oh, brian. I don't think anyone doubts that South Carolina will be better. I think what they do doubt is whether the Gamecocks can handle the most difficult schedule Leeson, the SEC, and I dare say in the entire country with the three top teams in America on the schedule based on what Seth Walder told us today. That's Alabama, Clemson and Georgia. Thank you very much for the call. Great to have you on. Let's check in with Brandon next Brian go right ahead. What's the ball? How you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. Hi. I want to say first of all I'm in Henderson, Tennessee. And I'm decided to see you at freight Hartmann university and a couple of with. Yeah. I really can't wait. It's going to be a at the end of the month. And tell me I have never even though I'm from Tennessee. I've never been to Henderson, really. Well, here's between Memphis mass. Right. And it's a small town. But it's a it's just a great great place. Everybody's really friendly. And I can tell you firsthand. Everybody excited to see her are. Well, I can't wait to get there. And I'm just honored and overwhelmed by the invitation. Well, I assure for Loyd cannot wait to see most. It's it's coming up. I think the end of next week. Yes, sir. And we're real excited to see. But what am I going to talk about is? I'm originally from Kentucky came Hartman to go to school and ended up staying down here. Just because I love this much. But as a Kentucky fan, I can tell you growing up. I used to always love all the players because they'd stick around. I mean, you think saying Burri and Kennedy Skywalker, and you know, even all the way back to, you know, some of the some of the great SICOM Macy, but you know, anymore. It's this would have done and. It's just so frustrating to see it. I mean, a love my Kentucky Wildcats, but you know, when you see like heroes leaving, and I I knew Washington was going to leave that. I just wonder that looking at how do cat D top three best players in the nation come out of high school, and how great they actually were. And they still cannot win it of Helo can can Calipari stick with this came a street because I mean, you know, when we did win it. We had all obviously, very special player with Anthony Davis study also had a lot of players that had stuck around, and you know, from reading if you look at what wide Virginia win because they had some experience on that team. And they got it out. I mean, that's that is just seems to be the obvious answer. You've got to have players that have been there and are used to play together and have more experience. And I just wonder how long Calipari can stick with this philosophy and with Kentucky offering him this last time contract. You know? I mean Hello like it looks like he's going to stick with it for a while. They listen we're up against brand. And make sure you come up to see me when when I'm in at freed hardman. Okay. I truly wheel. I hope I can't wait to see you. Thank you for the phone. Call really great. By the way, we are getting official word now that alita is stepping down. I mean, this is obviously the story of the day. We knew it was going to happen. But LSU has made it official. They said alita we'll continue to serve as the a d until a successor is found he will transition to a new role as special assistant. To the president for donor relations. So based on how unpopular the fans that have called in today have said he is that should be fascinating role for him warping. We're up against a break. We'll continue talking about that. And some other stories after this. You listening to Paul finebaum show podcast ship towers joining us talking about the hype train better known as the Georgia spring game. Chip thanks to the time. As always listened. We understand there isn't Suzy them. But let's try to understand why this is a must see event. Yeah. Like any spring game? No. I I think Kirby is kinda made it that way Georgia just from the standpoint of you know, spring gangs are always what they are. No matter how you set him up. And however, you that if the competition where there's two there's ones the ones we're stews. And and what have you Kirby's made this much more of a event from the standpoint of unless you offer the recruits, let's let's show the new recruits that aren't here. Let's feature the record recruits just got here. Let's bring back, you know, all the old bulldog run, the NFL, and, you know, for whatever reason, you know, an average of eight thousand of per year has shown up for for curvy smart, spring games. And that's compared to you know, I guess before Kirby got here. The. Greatest attendance air have g day game was was forty something thousand they probably average twenty thousand before that. So he's definitely peaking in for interest of the van Basten. Kinda it kind of fun now own the field, Paul. You know, I agree. I mean, I I don't think there's as much to look at in this particular spring is there. There's certainly there's no quarterback competitions. As there has been in the last three g day gains. Nothing real intriguing on might start here there a lot of era parents out there. But, but yeah, it should be pretty fun from the standpoint of honesty and who. Despite all the hype and the glitter and gold, and all that what are you looking for just in terms of where certain players are. And I realize having real realizing that sometimes you just can't tell very much. Well, you can't. And so here's the deal Paul is. You know, I mean Kirby very much like Nick Sabin to the access during the week is is very very limited. I mean, we don't see a lot of practice. So from that standpoint alone. You know, I find, you know, the spring games, it'd be more enlightening than they were in the past because you know, in the old days that would have seen a lot of the team by the time they kind of tried out for the spring game. Now, you have seen much. So in particular, I want to see what all the buses about. There's been a lot of fuss has been a lot of buzz with a lot of these are fourteen early enroll lease at Georgia. I mean, there's a lot of early enroll ease everywhere, I think there were sixteen in Alabama and sixteen Clemson, and you know. Just big early enrolling classes a couple of guys in particular Nolan Smith, the number one rated outside linebacker in America and nico- bay deemed the number one inside linebacker, America. Both of them signed with Georgia in this class it positions of need inter in camp and create a lot of buzz. Well, all I've seen them run through position drills. And they look good and doing that. But I'm I'm really intrigued about seeing them doing some eleven on eleven work, and you know, that kind of carries out throughout the lineup. But you know, again with Jake from kind of being solidified it quarterback, the Alon solidified, you know, the D line. There's a lot of work to be done. But everybody knows who in terms of the pecking order, so it it's not real intriguing. Matt Kirby would beg to differ. But you know, I'm not expecting a lot of, you know, a surprises in that regard. Let's talk about Jake from. We had a guest on. Yes. Yesterday to really say his upside from this point on to the draft next year is pretty phenomenal. He he's always been good even though. Some were calling for his ouster even before the Florida Georgia game last year, which your assessment. Well, I mean, I think I think I think the best is still ahead of Jake Brahm. I think he's largely under appreciated from a national standpoint. You know, maybe it's one of the situations where where you know, because on on the be in close I see more in him than maybe that they do on the outside. But I mean, I think there's nowhere to go. But up for for from that sounds funny. But because he has been so good. But he has another tier that he can reach and the, and if he can do that this year, he can carry Georgia wit, and and you know, a lot of special things can happen. I think he's a much better passer than most people give him credit for me, you know, his yards per attempt last year surprises. I mean, she's nine point three yards for ten as he didn't throw the ball around a lot. But when he grows any boroughs at vertically and with a good run game. Like they're expected to have with the Andrea swift James coli now the offense coordinator, I mean, I expect you to open it up a little bit more. They're still going to be run oriented. But I think you'll see much more of a true pro style offense in this coming year. And and it Jake from you know, does everything they say he's capable of doing between. You know, calling the plays and making throws it could be a big year. I think Georgia's offense going to have a big year regardless, but he can he can make it even better. Talking to chip towers about the dogs. Listen, we had a guest on earlier Seth Walder Georgia predicted to be in the top four. This is no big surprise. This is where the dogs have been for the last couple of years what what are fans looking forward to. And do they feel or do they sense? This is the year where the Alabama conversation finally comes to an end and Kirby smart beats his old boss. Yeah. Well, you know that the thing. So twenty nineteen is always kind of been the year since Kirby smart arrived at you know, everything that happens. Twenty seventeen was a little ahead of schedule in my opinion. And even last year was a little bit of a transition year. And but I think because the rest of the east Georgia was just able to to to get back to the SEC championship game. But that you know, until they clear that Alabama hurdle. It's not clear. And and, you know, last time I checked I mean, Alabama. I think we all keep waiting for them to take a step back. We waiting for the they lost a game last year. I yeah. I mean, you know, and oh that staff turnover is going to catch up with them sooner or later is it really I mean, you know, it hadn't yet. So I, but I do think based on the last two games if you just say how the last two games came to these programs or head to head from a competitive standpoint. And it's just gonna take one time, you know, Georgia's to to be able to get over that hump. And if they do I think, you know, everything is there waiting for. But they've got to get through Alabama. And I think they'll have that opportunity again the here again, Georgia's there in Kirby has done a great job. But that the issue right now is the rest of the east is not able to to hang and I don't see that happen this year. I think Florida's has worked to do. I think Tennessee definitely has worked to do in the rest of keys as work to do to upset that right now. In. In the meantime, there were just wholly fixated on on Alabama. You told the truth right there at the end ship, and we can get it. And for good reason. Why shouldn't they be well? Yeah. And and look, I I think Kirby downplays relationship Nick save, and and his time there and everything now I think we're starting to see a little bit of push away though behind the scenes yes men pursue remarks as fast week if the app and touchdown club. You know that I heard secondhand. And what are what are they saying? Well, I mean, I just I just think he's starting to push away from the mothership. You know what I'm saying? You know, this is mine, and and and we're doing things our way we're not necessarily doing everything the way that they did it Alabama. We've got our own way of doing things, and and you just since that that separation, and and, but I think he takes very very serious in in won't to be able to beat the mentor, and they downplay it, and they, yuck. Yuck. About it. Every time they made it. And each other. But I think behind the scenes that's a driving force for third smart. No doubt chip towers joining us. Thank you very much gray tabby on. He's in chip towers getting us all ready for the final spring game that Saturday too. So we are here and we'll continue with your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five LSU making it official. What we've been speculating on all day that they are looking for an athletic director, Joe alita gone soon for LSU fans, perhaps not soon enough. We're coming right back. You were listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Certainly the news breaking at quite a pace today. We now know it is a fish oil that Joe Aleve is leaving LSU the school making it official just moments ago with more statements king Alexander. We are grateful to Joe for his years of service and dedication to LSU under his leadership. LSU athletics has become even more nationally competitive in our our student athletes have reached new levels of academic achievement. Aleve. Had this to say the eleven years any and I have been here in Baton Rouge have been some of the best in our lives. We have made life long, friends and memories in Louisiana. This is truly special place. It's been an honor to serve LSU and I'm proud to continue to do. So. In a new role. So now that that's a fish oil the speculation all over the map about what will happen next. Scott woodward. Of course is a Baton Rouge native. He's a graduate Avila shoe. He just has made two of the biggest hires in modern SEC history, we JIMBO Fisher and then two weeks ago buzz we and we had him on this show nine days ago talking about the future of Texas athletics. Under those two coaches, we're joined now by Billy Lucci who covers that beat better than anyone and Billy. Thank you very much. Appreciate you coming on. And the first question is the obvious question. What do you know about Scott Woodward's future? Is he going to stay or will he be wooed away by LSU? I think boring. I wrote about it on my side. I've been told by multiple sources, Scott Scott, Paul them, getting confused on in fighting about about Scott, all I've been told by multiple sources that a memorandum of understanding already been signed. And that Scott Woodward will be the next athletics. Rector at LSU. You know, this happened really quickly. So you guys called me as I'm still chasing it down. But like I said I've heard from two sources and even third to that. I have never been wrong for me in third that's about as 'cause I can get on that one. And and it'd been trending that way all day. I think. From the moment. I heard about it. This morning, Texas, AM was fighting a pretty uphill battle to reel him back in as I've seen as no from all the time covering this. Really back in typically doesn't happen when you're dealing with someone that's been doing this. So so long it's usually when they're gone, they're they're gone. This is not some sort of money grab by Scott Woodward who was like the seven pies payday D in the SEC head. He wanted to do that Lord knows he could have leveraged them for probably more than LSU pay. So I don't I don't think it was about that. I think about impart any way to go home. And then if there's more to it, I think that'll come out, you know, as we continue to learn more about the certainly Billy would understand wanting to go home and not only did he work there. He worked under Mark Hamrick. When when the Sabin was there your yes ties to that community because he's from there. He also has worked in political consulting. So he understands the the scene. In in Baton Rouge were many don't. But, but I I am interested in is is a was there anything at AM that may have tipped the balance other than a chance to go back home again. Well, Paul, I think if you look at it. There's one part of me just doesn't doesn't add up from the standpoint of you know, he lives about four minutes from the airport here. It's about a forty five minute flight to Baton Rouge or New Orleans. These there all the time, and and was just wrapping up building kind of their dream home here. And really you mentioned it buzz, JIMBO. I mean if ever there's cruise control for an athletic director, Scott woodland was about to be on it. And you also reference a lot going on even though he's familiar with it. That's still a pretty big undertaking right now to go in there with you know, between between we'll wait. And it's just so I I have to believe. Yes. To answer your question. I think there had to be some other mitigating factors. And I'm very familiar with Scott and talk to them a lot. I know how much he loved A N N LSU and. You know, I've had conversations with them where I've always felt like if he ever been a leave. It would be it. It wouldn't have to do with money. I'll put it that way. I do think though, there's something to do with respect. Right. And the fact that you're the seven ties payday D in the conference Christo Kante, Texas making twice as much and you look around the league you go who's done with this guy has done who's done with. This guy has done at Texas. Am. Hiring. Jim who I mean, you guys would laugh me off the off the station if a year before they hired JIMBO said they were hiring same in a lot of people do that with buzz Williams, Texas ain't in basketball. No, they have to go higher mid major. It's what they've always done. So on some level. I think that you gotta look at it. I don't need the money. But I am I being appreciated for what I'm doing here, but by higher ups, and then another thing I think you have to look at and this will come out in the wash. I think is you see what is the status of Michael young? The president of Texas aim 'em right now because Michael Yang has one year left on his deal. And is is the guy that hired Scott Woodward and brought him brought him from Washington with him. So he didn't think that if he thought that that cover was maybe not long for this world. And and and you combine that with going home, and you combine that with kinda. Look where do I sit right now in terms of how much being appreciated not by the fans, they love their, you know, they're really. To a man right now, they ain't in fans and a lot of hot power donors that had been calling me all day are pretty, you know, they're they're beside themselves at this could happen to be honest with you. That's understandable. By the way. I mean, the next question I ask you is almost I can't believe I'm about to ask you because I'm still digesting the news of a leave of being ousted, and then you coming on and telling us that Woodward is likely to leave so who would possibly be on on a list to replace woodwork. Because I have to believe the school has not given this much thought I think you're dead on on that. I don't think I've talked to people in athletic, and by that, I'm I'm talking about everyone from coaches to athletes everyone today no-one no-one taught coming. I I will I will say I sent them growing plus stray Shen with Scott, and I couldn't really put my finger on it because it had nothing to do with JIMBO Fisher. And he was beyond excited about the higher buzz Williams and things really seem to be rolling on the surface. But I mean, I think it comes as a total shock. So I don't think you're sitting. With short list walking around right now. There's two sides to this is is number one like. It. It certainly seems like a great job for someone to walk into. You. Don't think you have to hire a football or basketball coach anytime in the foreseeable future. And on top of that, you, you know, you've got to really proven ones it seemed like perfect fit. So from that side. It's great the pay will be great. But I think you have to as a new dot com in we'll have to kind of ask the hard questions and kind of get to the bottom of. Why would why would Woodward leave to make sure that it look it's one hundred percent because going home to LSU but again. Boy that held a job to walk into. And as we're talking we had Stephanie regal on earlier today. She's a local reporter, Billy. And I mean this story just moving at a record pace. Now, another county's been heard from a prominent official down there. The the head of the Louisiana. The former head of the Louisiana higher education board is now calling for the resignation and firing of the LSU president king Alexander. So I mean, I I bring this up because I mean, it's got by the way, Scott, what would know all this. I mean, he knows the political scene that Rouge, but you're diving into an endless pit of uncertainty. But apparently, I which brings me to the question if Scott Woodward, indeed is taking this job. Exactly who is hiring him. That's a damn good question. And you're gonna have to get an LSU insider on that one. But I mean like you said he's privy to all that an and he's probably getting the answers. He needs them think about just walking into the will wait which way shin right now. Maybe I mean, I know I know listening to him on earlier. And I know it sounds like it's all resolved and stuff. But there's part of me that sitting there going how much of that might be contractual. And just kind of you know, they can't just let him go right now. I to me it just seems like you're leaving Kush situation for one that that has its fair share of of issues and instability and uncertainty. But again, I mean, this is something I, you know, Scott, I know Scott, it's not an oath. He's not going to make an overnight. No, no. He's liberal. It wasn't Billy. I I can't. Thank you enough. I know you're in the middle of breaking a story. But thank you very much for being with us. I can tell you this. They trade coaches a lot between shavers and Woodward and they almost did with random. I know that Texas they will not be Aisling. Joe liba? No, we have that. And I'm sure buzz Williams and JIMBO Fisher will probably skip the farewell party for Scott Woodward who brought both of them it. Hey, thanks, Billy. We'll talk to you tomorrow. I Paul thank you. But I mean talking about a bombshell on a day of multiple bomb show. You could see leva getting fired. But before that the ink was even dry on the statement announcing that he's moving on to this assistant of the president's role. Whatever. The victim. Billy lucci. Just broke on this show. A story that said Scott Woodward is definitely going back. According to his sources makes us even more stupefying. Anyway, we have another hour and fifteen minutes ago. So I don't know what else will happen. But I'm sure something will stick around to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're here. And man what a day. Let's get some more calls and continue with what has been just baffling afternoon. Scott is in Louisville, and you are on the air. Hello, scott. Hi, paul. How are you? Great. Thank you. Absolutely. Love the show. I was just I caught the tail end of that leaving work about the Texas AM AD possibly leaving and being in Louisville since Texas A and M is an as an e school, the first name the pop into mind would be Tom Jurij as a potential replacement with ties to Adidas, the you know, too good. Initiative question. I mean, I mean really until the scandal. With was re Patino time, George was always considered to be among the preeminent AD in America. Well, and that seems the thing the thing that has happened here with all the legal proceedings he settled very quickly with you of L, and there's really been all other than just the Patino linkage. He's kind of walked away from that in his good shape is absolutely possible. And what's his ties to Adidas? And how prominent is shoe shoe marketing is become in Texas M being one of their plague ship programs. It's a real interesting connection. Well, I didn't really think about it's got thanks for tipping us off to that. That's a really interesting point. Thank you, very very much. Rob is in Florida. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Rob. Afternoon. How you pay rob? Thanks for the call. The problem. A real quick just a little survey shin about the Rick Barnes. And the interview that everybody's been talking about for the last couple of days. Where's the second part of the interview? A much. I understand your question. Well, right coating the part about him that if the buyout. But the second part of the interview is not listed anywhere. You don't you don't you'll get that? So where is that? Because I don't know on the I I've I've read the transcripts of the interview, and he was very complimentary toward fomer. I believe in the second part, but the one that got all the attention. On ESPN and everywhere else was about UCLA in the bile. Okay. Well, this one Beijing for the second part of it was that you being Tennessee guy, you'll understand this analogy. But here the do on the police, you know, what that means. Right. Sure. Okay. So when you go back, and look and listen to the second part of his interview, he said that if they squawked at the buyout that was the do on the place that was the reason based on his face, not trying to get some religious discussion. But I'm just saying give the man credit for what he did. But let's just look at just the part that piece sold out willing to go to UCLA he actually used that as his side. So that's my opinion. So just throwing out there. It's one of the better ones. I've heard rob. Because. I here's the problem with with the medium that we the world that we live in the median them in. We we don't we don't we play a portion of everything and we play with suits our needs. And and you've given us a good opportunity to look at the other side. And I had not looked at it. But I'm glad you brought it up. I would definitely check that out. Yeah. I I look at that. Gets a break. Busy busy show. If you if you just got in the car got home and don't know what has happened. Stick around. We'll update you on all of the news from Baton Rouge in college station. And there is a lot.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion and patterns of college football leaves here. The the Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast. Tony Barnhart said never Paul finebaum. Paul will be back in this chair to Morrow as we get ready for Easter weekend. It has been a fun and fast. I three hours where we have looked at. No, we look at every angle from the Texas A&_M situation where Scott Woodward the athletic director left Texas AM yesterday. And agreed become the new AD at LSU Joe Aleve, of course, is going to be moved onto another position at the university. But it is a fascinating story that really adds a layer another layer of intrigued, what was already going to be a very good football. Very interesting football season in the SEC. What happens when Texas A and M plays LSU? What what happens when Texas? Am plays. Alabama should Texas AM be nervous. So to me, it is it is just a. Fascinating story. And we've had a lot of fun covering it. Today. We later on this hour, we have Mark slave my good friend of ESPN and ESPN dot com. And we're when Mark we'll talk on a host of issues, particularly about Georgia and Florida and kind of where they are headed. But before we get to that we want to go back to your phone calls. We have Scott in Panama City, Scott. It's Tony Barnhart. Thanks for calling. Hey, thanks for taking my call. Sure. I just wanted to come in. I'm with Dale from Alabama. I believe JIMBO Fisher overrated. I don't think he's gonna take take sane into the promised land. I think Florida station where to deal out and to someone and lifts JIMBO over there. And. But at goes Gators. I think we're up and coming, and I appreciate you following us that that that will be fine. That will be fun. Well, here's here's here's the deal. Jimbo fisher. We're going to find out. Okay. We are on out because that's the thing about coaching in the SEC. If if you've got anything that ain't working it's gonna get exposed. I happen to think JIMBO fishes pretty good. Coach won the national championship at Florida state of the people feel differently. And I can appreciate that sky. You got anything else? We'll we'll I I don't disagree to jimbo's. Not a good coach. I just don't think that he's a championship because he was still there with the dumpster fire starting Florida state me bailed. So I still think that he's just bar coach. But just opinion, I understand understand. But thank you for taking my culture. All right. I appreciate you. Let's let's go to Todd in Birmingham. Todd. You wanted you wanted to talk about attendance issues. Yeah. Yeah. Your company how you doing? I'm doing great. Thanks for calling. Yes, sir. I just want to say big fan before going to say anything, man. Always you've done a great job. Well, thank you. I was just going to say, you know, I think with the major universities in the SEC. The faint. Maybe they Christ out the average consumer that could take family to the ballpark and watch the game. Todd every time I bring this up either. It's either one or two is cost just cop cost not only what the tickets cost. What what what what you have to pay to get the tickets what it costs to one or two nights and hotel. It's usually too. And so yeah. And I think the the athletic director's becoming more and more aware of it. But there's no you kidding yourself. Veto think cost not a factor in this. Sure. Exactly. And you know, and I thought it was really good about the numerous Sadie stadium. How the owners there went there and said, hey, you know, cries a hot dogs around doing for two dollars cokes or three dollars or whatnot. I think that you had that the average consumer that would wanna go see one of the major SEC. The schools, you know, if even marketed it that way that they that the prices are cheaper. I'm telling you, there's so many fans would love to be in stands, but just can't afford it. No. I think I think that that's absolutely right. I mean cost I what I hear from fans is cost a game times in stadium experience because the millennials aren't come right. Unless you have state of the art wifi, the millennials. They're not coming to the game. So you're absolutely right. You start talking about taking a family of four to a major riot football game. Yeah. And thing about it is unless you take them to one of the games where maybe the ticket demands not as great. You take them to one of the cupcake games. But yeah, it's there's no question. It's an issue. And I don't know if you've heard us earlier, college football attendance. It hasn't dropped steeply. But it has dropped four out of the last five years even in the SEC, which continues the country inattention attendant, even in the SEC. It's drops slightly and trust me. I've talked enough athletic directors. They are aware of the situation, and they wanna do something. About it. Right. Okay. Perfect county. Thanks so much for your time. Have a getting right? Okay. All right. Good to talk to you. Let's go to Blake in Arkansas Blake. It's Tony Barnhart. How are you? Good. Tony. Thanks for having me on. Hey ocean. What do you think is the biggest weakness Arkansas football teams facing this year? And leading today, you need to correct. I. Would you have a rebuilding job? Like Chad Morris has at Arkansas invariably now they didn't have a quarterback to run a system. Okay. Now, they now they're getting better on the skill position. But I'm telling you every time you come in. And you're trying to rebuild in the SEC. You start at the offense and defensive lines of scrimmage. Okay. And when Arkansas was good when they were competing when Houston Houston Nutt was there. And by portraying was there, you could look along that offensive and defensive line of scrimmage and see guys who were going to play in the NFL. And so yeah, you you got to work out the offense of kinks. You gotta get the quarterback. You gotta have the wide receivers. And all that. But if you want to contend if you want to climb out of that hole, you've got to get better along the line of scrimmage. I would agree. Thank you. I appreciate you have a good day, sir. All right. Appreciate that. All right. Let's go to. Swat Swamy and Tennessee Swami. How are you? Swami you winning. How about now Swami you with me? Yeah. Well, awesome. All right. Let's go to Willis in mobile, Alabama Willis, how are you? Doing fine. I just heard that the Vanderbilt chancellor as stepping down. They had an F new athletic director who doesn't have any college experience. They got a basketball coach he doesn't have any college basketball experience. And now heard they going to hire a female of fist basketball coach they trying to do something politically correct of a serious about winning. Well, first of all, that's that's that's news to me. And we're going to have to check that out. And then the the situation of hiring Jerry Stackhouse that that was that was a move that they feel gives them a chance, obviously, his his he was had a lot of success in the in the G league d league or whatever they call it. But I think you gotta let this thing. Play play out. Vanderbilt is taking a new approach ever since we lost Dr David Williams, and you you just gotta let it play out. I don't think it's fair to say you can't assume because they want to hire female assistant basketball coach it is done. Rick Pitino did it. All right. So it has happened. But I would suggest to to let it play out and see how it works. I read that in the Nashville Tennessee in and online, and and I was just shocked if they say this woman is more or less done deal. Well, I'll I know is there a lot of great female basketball coaches out there, not just women's basketball coaches, and they they can absolutely do the job. And I think you know, again, that's Jerry Stackhouse is called. Okay. If he feels like somebody can help him. He's going to hire. No matter who they are. But listen, I appreciate your call. Okay. Thank you. All right. We're going to take a break. Now. When we come back. We'll have Mark sleigh. Bobby SPN and ESPN dot com to talk about all things college football. This is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul finebaum. This is the Paul finebaum show. Cried passion, then patron tree of college football lives here. The is the Paul finebaum show our four podcast. All right. Lively conversation between Paul and honor. Dr. It's going to be an interesting topic. We're going to deal with it all year to Jake. We'll see it'll be a lot of fun. Hey, my next guest knows all about Georgia and Alabama quarterbacks. He's been covering them for a long time for ESPN and ESPN dot com. We always love to have marks label here when we're doing the show, Mr. slay. How are you, sir? Doing. Well. How are you? I'm doing I'm doing okay for an old guy. Well, well, first of all you heard what kind of Garo said about Jake prom to Tonga below. I mean, how do you think that debate will shake out? Before two has got the leg up to victory. I mean, Jalen hurts had to come off the bench, I have one. But I think you know, I think Jackson right there the last couple of years and your just been right there. But you gotta get over the hump you gotta figure out some way to beat Alabama. So I would go to right now. Well, that that makes sense. It makes sense. Well, listen, you you came out after the season and then after recruiting with your way too early top twenty five are you going to update before the season? And we've so when you're going to do that. We'll probably have about thirteen more dishes between now and. Now, we'll do one after spring practice. I think we're gonna do this next one a little bit different than do a panel. Just so it's not me flipping teams just for the sake of flipping team. But right, we try to which actually I mean, it is meaningless as they are for the most part, we do try to have a little bit of rhyme and reason to it injuries guys transferred, and you know, good luck trying to keep up with that right now. But I think a panel than so it'll be five or six from dot com. Doing it. Just right now did anybody do anything in the spring that made you sit up and take notice and say, I need to really think about moving these guys. You know, I think the quarterback situation will how state, you know, just a fields didn't step in. Stuff right into Dwayne Haskins shoes. Like, some people expected what see what he does over the summer in terms of learning the playbook and absorbed that system and getting better before. The season kicks off. But that was kind of the issue it at Georgia for him a little bit was just the middle part of the you know, the guy didn't play an awful lot in high school. And I think people underestimate that and just in terms of experience and how much action he seen under center. You know, I think you have to look at Ohio State really want. Take a hard. Look at 'em Michigan's offense with the new offense coordinator, Josh Gaddis. But the the away from Alabama, you know, is it going to be a huge difference is Jim Arbor, we're going to keep doing what he wants to do is really going to give Gaddis an opportunity to change things up a little bit more uptempo because I think offensively they've been a pretty big disappointment under Harbaugh so far, and you know, his Gaddis ready for that job. You know, Auburn, you know, unsettled quarterback position. So after to continue to look there, but you know, Florida, you know, frankly, price priceless better. I mean, I think a full offseason. Dan Mullen is gonna help him dentistry job with quarterback Shen Diffley bay Franks play like he did against Michigan the chick play vol- baseball. He's you know, I think Florida's going gonna be a factor. Let let's stick with where the Gators just a minute that this is a topic that I've that I've written about and other people have wanted to talk to me about the question is we know there's a gap between Georgia and Florida in the SEC east. The question is how big is that gap? And is Dan Mullen in the process of closing that gap. I think Talla wise, it's a pretty wide gap right now. And I think the last two years have shown that what is it seventy eight to twenty four combined score. I think you know, I don't think Jim mcelwain, and I'm not telling any secrets, but I don't think mcelwain recruited very well down there. I think Moen got a little bit of a late start a year ago. I think they'll continue to get better and the recruiting trail, but you know, I don't think Kirby is going to slow down anytime soon either. So, you know, Florida's because of their location, and the fact that there's so much talent in Florida. I think you know, they have the capability to close that gap pretty quickly. Especially a Florida state continues to struggle in Miami doesn't bounce back big under may as that. I think Florida's got a chance to become the premier program in that state again. So maybe that makes it easier for mullet and along those same lines. Do you do you sit? I keep telling people that the east the SEC. Was bad. It's getting better. Okay. Kentucky had ten win season last year. I they're going to take a step back, but not a terrible step back. I don't think I down with. We'll must champ yesterday. He feels good about kind of where they are had horrible finish last year. But overall you see the east getting a little bit better. Yeah. I mean, I think Florida you're gonna get better under mowing. I think Tennessee, the Tennessee fans don't wanna hear it. I think it's going to take awhile for Jared to get that program back on track Jerry Pruitt, but I think eventually you'll get them there to where they'll be competitive. You know, we talk about the gap between Georgia and Florida. I think the gap between Georgia and Tennessee is even wider. So I think Tennessee fans are gonna have to be patient. But you know, we'll done a nice job in South Carolina. You know, the biggest thing for for the Gamecocks is to get better on both lines of scrimmage, and he feels like he's taken some baby steps and doing that. Eventually they're going to be deep enough on both lines where they can compete with Georgia. I mean, the last couple of years Georgia ran the ball over him and stuff the Ron, and you know, you can't have that if you're going to compete in the SEC. So I I think I think we'll got ahead right direction. Margaret based on the people you talk to you you cover the SEC all the college football extensively. Has anybody? The question I have is where is Alabama's monster? And I sat down with Nick saving a couple of weeks ago. And obviously he is rededicated refocused in doing the same to his players. He's he shaken up its coaching staff. Feels like he's got more teachers more better Xs and os guys than he did a year ago. It was clear they had an issue there. Where do you think Al Alabama is look at that schedule? They're going to be favored and every game they play. But as a program, what do you think Nick Sabin is right now in Alabama. Number two in the country. Behind Clinton is probably they are not number one. I mean, we'll have to see if clubs can plug and play on the defensive line. But now I was over there about a month ago and spent some time with with consignment, and you know, I think I think a year ago, you know, he won't admit it. But I I think he realizes he probably made some mistakes when he hired assistant coaches, and that he got some guys that were in it for me, some guys that were only there to to use it as a catapult to to better jobs as coordinator we saw a couple of guys do that. Yeah. I think there's a concern that it's becoming the Nick Sabin coaching academy. And he's having to do this every year. Now, you know, even told me that this last time he thought about disarming a bunch of Alabama guys who would stay there forever, and he wouldn't have to worry about turn over. But you know, the the big thing to me is. The recruiting rankings have been great. They've lost a couple of their key recruiters over the last few years Kirby. Jerry Frewin Sasha Foy that's last year. You know, are they CPAs? They. Go 'cause the secondary wasn't great thought the linebacker or below Alabama standards under save it. And we'll see if they can if they can get back into championship. Mark. I got about a minute. I get calls when I'm doing this show and other stuff people wonder about the transfer situation. Obviously with the transfer portal has created a completely different world that we're living in. But now we've gotten more and more guys who were leaving applying for waivers, and it seems like eighty percent of the guys are getting waivers where where are we headed on this? I don't wanna use the term free agency because my friend. Dr David ridpath gets gets mad me when I do that. But where where are we headed on the transfer issue? Or ages. That's exactly what it is today. Hey, Tommy Stevens, the state will solve that. Yeah. And I it's a situation. You know, if if if eighty or ninety percent of the Gaza getting trans or getting waivers to the transfer rule, then you don't really have a transfer rule at all I it's to me. It's just a fascinating how coach is going to handle it. I'm all for and power players. But the roster management is a big issue particularly would quarterback degrading. Apple saving told me, you know, in the spring, you know, they've got a policy about clashes tenants. And there was a guy for the second year in a row at wrong up so demerits and was in danger of facing disciplined. He walks out of savings office goes down to the appliance director tells him to put him in the transport. Yeah, that's situations. That were running into where kids just aren't being held accountable for not doing the things they're supposed to be doing. They enter the transfer portal. They can go anywhere. I'm or players rights and given the kids more power give them name image like this. But you know, I think people have. Lost sight of the investment, you know, time wise and moneywise that these schools are put into the kids on the other. So aren't there's got to be and there's got to be a balancing act there somewhere. You know, you would think so I always good to visit with Mark slave. Thanks for being on Paul finebaum county. Take care. Always good stuff from marks labor. All right. We're gonna take a break. Now. We'll be back. We're here to take your calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. This is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul finebaum. This is the Paul finebaum show. Cried, passion and pageantry of college football lives here. The is the Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast. All right. Good stuff. I had a chance to to of that facility yesterday, and it is incredibly impressive. It's not not a whole lot of a civilised. Darius Rucker studio. So it was interesting. I talked to coach wheel must jam when I was there. And he got it really involved in design of that issue hit his big thing was he wanted players to flow from one room to another room to another room, and they estimated in South Carolina with the way that thing is set up players save something like fifteen or twenty minutes a day and that adds up over time. It was a really a fascinating thing to watch. And look these facilities just about everybody's got one of them. Now, it's one stop shopping for academics. Weightlifting nutrition everything is under one roof and South Carolina. They were spread out all over the place. And now they've they've got a fifty million dollar facility that attached to their already very nice. Indoor facility, and they believe it's going to have a significant impact and crew recruiting which is why at the end of the day. Why you build one of these things very interesting. I we're here to take your calls to the top of the hour at eight five five two four to seven to eight five one. We take a call here before our next break Harold in Alabama heralds, Tony Barnhart. All your pre game. And and have time chose on the same. Yes. Well, thank you Herrell. Appreciate that. Thanks for calling thinking my call couple of things only on the. Fine for route. Or they're not considering whenever transfer. He comes in losing scholarship for two years of ro. I'm not sure what you're asking me Hera. What what's the question again, the NCWA? I think it's considering if you take transfer. Yes. Yes. I know what you're saying that. Yeah. What what what they're considering doing is. If you take a taking a graduate transfer, and that graduate transfer does not get his graduate degree in one year. They're going to count another year. I guess your scholarship Tuttle it ain't gonna pass. Okay. They consider it. But but it's not as not going to pass the smaller the smaller schools who lose invariably lose players to to the power five teams one of this to get past Dennis Dodd this good reporting on this yesterday. But that they are considering that rule Herrell, but based on the reporting we've heard it's not gonna pass. Okay. Well, politics involved anyway. And another thing JIMBO wanted to get out of Florida state because he saw Alabama east coming over there, Flint. Well, it it could have been there's there's no question that that that was wings done an incredible job. And, but you know, but do you really want to jump out of the frying pan? We Clemson to jump into the fire with Alabama and LSU and folks, so so that's that's a nice theory. But I think that's seventy five million dollars hair would probably had a lot more to do with that decision. Don't you? I would imagine it would I was facing that I. Anyway, I agree with you. Then couple years if coach does not get there. What's going to happen? We'd see that coming. Well, you can talk to Texas and people, and they are a little nervous parallel herald to call it. Thanks for taking mccown. Let's take one more call before our break. And let's go to. Adam in Gainesville, Adam it's Tony Barnhart. I've got just a couple of minutes. Don't a real quick item. Brother. I'm doing good. I'm a living Gainesville Florida, but I'm a bulldog, but I've kind of copying off what Martin was talking about a while ago. Georgia has been recruiting their tails off the last three years I've knitting stars on campus of maybe one or two transferred. Yes and fields being one of them. But in my opinion, man, that's what separates Georgia and Florida. Dan got experienced, but man, Kirby smarter every doing everything but win the national championship, you know, just one play away. And I think in three years with the big games that he's coast and he's only getting better. And when you got stars competing with five stars, you're bringing the talent out in those guys on campus. And in my opinion, until Florida starts recruiting Kirby smarts going to have that train rolling. I'm scared of Florida every. A year. If I was a state Georgia going to lose a game that year, I think Florida, but for lucky for us. It's been the last two years Hobart and LSU. Well, here's here's the thing. Adam look, Florida sign a think a top ten class and to me to me if you're in the top seven eight nine, you know depends on how you coach them up. So I I didn't know if they can put together three top ten classes in a row over the next few years. I think they're going to be there. I just think it's it's about coaching players up. I think Georgia's doing a great job, but this year's going to be I think Georgia to get it done this year. It's next year that I really wonder about the gap between Georgia and Florida after the Florida can put together another top five top six up seven recruiting class. I agree. I think that's what separates the coaches between smart and Molin is the experience, but smarts learning quick. And he's doing a good talent. Well, it's like anything else. You got to knock on the door certain number of times their history is full of coaches who got there and got there and got there and finally they break through and look and could Georgia have won the last two games of Alabama. Absolutely. But did Alabama make the plays with the game on the line? When the play had to be made Alabama finally is at one coach Tomi longtime ago is about football players football players players making place. Get the last word from you. I've got about forty seconds, my friend. But he that's all I had I kind of caught the cat it off more. But I just want to give my opinion. And and say that's to me. That's the difference between Georgia Florida are now is they just don't have recruits that Georgia has well the end of the day when it comes to the robbery games it's hard to pick in a robbery game. But the talent on field is going to bring a towel out. And I think Georgia is going to be okay for the next few years until flow at recruits on campus. All right. Well, I appreciate your call. Appreciate to me. It's going to be absolutely fascinating. Watching these two programs over the next few years. I mean, they're not Woody in Bowie yet. But I think they've got the ability to be that kind of rivalry back and forth. So it's going to be interesting. It's Tony Barnhart sit in for Paul finebaum. This is the Paul finebaum show. Don't go away.

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"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach ibm helps retailers manage supply chains with watson. Ai while predicting demands with these the world is going hybrid with ibm visit ibkr dot com slash hybrid cloud fried passion and patron torri of college. Football leaves here. The paul finebaum. Show our four podcast. Our on a tuesday afternoon has gone with you being here. It's been a busy one. Bruce feldman kicked off with the conversation about less mile being pounded out of lawrence kansas the embarrassing fashion that it took place around. Also mitch mart hearts the kentucky athletic director and the chairman of the men's basketball committee joins us. We had rick barnes on head coach at tennessee and jay. Bilas shoot things tennessee as a chance in the in the nc double a. tournament So busy show. We are not done yet. Your phone calls coming up right now and we begin with nathan. Who is in georgia. Hello nathan it's ivan our you ivan. How are you doing. Just fine quick question. What do you think Ramifications of a high school football coach making those allegations of payment to georgia and alabama football players or recruits as. They're in a responsibility on his part to show proof before even talking like that. We'll remember something i've in and i'm not blatantly. Defending rush probes but this was not a public statement that he made. It's like it's if he says it at a booster club meeting. He said it to the booster club president in private. I'm still not sure how that tape Occurred so i i think are we. Are we accountable for things that we say in private. Well we can be if they're made public and they're actionable but i think in this case. I think he has bigger problems. I think he's being accused right now. Of far more serious thing within that school system than what he said about georgia or allegedly set about georgia alabama. Now my my flight. My final question back to you is. Do we really want him to try to elaborate on this. Well what does it do. Does it besmirch the programs of georgia and alabama. When you've got talk like this that is unproven. What does it do to the recruiting. Well in in from here. I think the only loser in all of this has been rush probst and he has been on a losing streak lately and that's his doing not mine but i don't think nick saban is overly concerned. I don't think kirby smart is he has a Kirby has a great relationship with high school coaches. His father was a high school coach. And georgia's you probably know so. I think it will blow over. I unless more. Is you know the tapes are out there. It's not like if somebody doesn't want to click on their phone or ipad. They can hear it. But i don't think it really proves anything There may be some nervous people out there who are mentioned in these tapes. I think it will blow away pretty quickly other than the fact that this is now. The third day or the second day that keeps being regurgitated. Thank you very much and have a wonderful day. Thank you. I appreciate it and and i wish i could. I could offer more. But it's complex for this reason it's public but it really isn't These are surreptitious tapes. That somehow saw the light of day. And you know. Do you know if you're if you're nick sabin or curbs mardi really want to react to this. Do you really want to acknowledge it Do you really want high school coach to be talking more about. I don't think rush probes is ever going to say another word about this but What what's there to be gained Do we wanna put rush probes in front of a microphone. Okay well what do you know. I mean he's been a he's been a high school coach for twenty some odd years. I would assume he knows a great deal about a lot of programs. Let's continue with peter who is in massachusetts. How hello peter. Get after him. Yeah i we you amid the ernie and bernie and ray mears a close friend of mine. Recruited recruited or bernie do know his name. I sure do stu aberdeen. stu aberdeen. i worked at Claire beach camp him for ten years to marshall and died of law. Yeah what an amazing man and he was. He's he's a he's a coach. I never really got his do. I don't think but you know he he. He was a critical part of what remirez did. And i used to travel with the team when i was at school Report reporter and stu told me at one point. You know this better than i do but i think he spent three months straight in new york. Recruiting bernard king. Yeah you know. I coach football forty years and i went to senator college in kentucky. The tell tell me something i i'm i'm so curious about guys who men and women who what How would you describe those forty years. Like i went from an amen. Football coach football coach and very college in pennsylvania and i coach bridgewater stay for thirty five years and i worked. With a lot of great is in camps angstrom Bill parcells and the arab parties in staff. Oh wow that What was what was it. Like to be around era He's always been somebody. I've been insanely curious. I never worked at par to you. And i worked with his assist. Okay i He was at our camp of for one one day but i had a great experience in coaching. And i i was connected with a lot of great people. And i worked with a lot of great basketball coaches at Clear vs cam including adolph rupp. Really i was in a car with it. I was in a car. One to eight off up going to Read a rub was not a racist he said to me he says i'd be afraid to Bring a black player into Mississippi so peter now is his rationale. Is that what you're telling us. Yeah he wasn't a racist. That's that's extraordinary As you were coming up as a coach show who were the coaches that you look to to try to not so much model yourself but learn from I veer offense. I went to tcu. You've spent two springs there in iran to veer offense and i it changed my program completely around i went to one hundred games. Wow now I'm trying to remember it was the veer was it was a bill yeoman. It was part part of the the original there the origin the origination of of the or was it. Somebody else was yeoman but i I got it from jim. Wacker at jim wacker. Yeah i remember jim wacker. How for those. Who don't are familiar with the beer. I mean i know they're variations in the option. How would you. How would you describe the beer to To a layperson. Well it was a pros in your in triple option inside outside veer and delete option For the veer from the split backfield. It was it was. It was different than the wishbone. The wishbone had three backs coach. Bryant learned the wishbone and that's really changed his career in the seventies. Yeah yeah. But i just wanted to call you up. I went to center college in kentucky. They're famous for the greatest upset of all time when they beat harvard. Harvard was national champion. That's right jenner was also center was also the Against texas and the twelfth man. Tradition was started against centre college. Well peter thank you. What a pleasure to to hear from you and to learn about your your career and what an amazing career it was it. Thank you for sharing that nice talking to you. You got it. Well good to hear from you. I'm fascinated by these coaches. It's so interesting. Mitch is up next in south carolina mitch elements to paul. How you midst we are doing. Great missile. I've always talked about a challenges in that growth children so The jews are my group is in club. Years has called epworth. united methodist jordan's trump. Children's home and i'll i'll street millwood so i know cat day probably knows but i didn't even think about this together day. I was watching your promo on. And they were showing how the stadiums we had a rec center. It was i guess may bill by the same person that built the williams brice stadium because the red is was called the winds rice rick center. That's interesting. I didn't know that had a big old basketball court in the basketball court. The floor was actually made a rubber in a pool tables and foosball. And all that kind of stuff in it. But yeah i. i don't know anything about with bribes. Brag i would assume there's not many we've bryce that would be so i would assume he he donated the money to build that Rec center for us. Well that's interesting mitch. I appreciate you sharing that. Thank you very much okay. You have a good day miss you take care of yourself and always enjoy the calls. We are heading to a break more to come in the final forty minutes or so more of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. We're back after. Listening to paul finebaum show podcast. It has been the biggest college football story this week the dismissal parting of the ways. However you would like to describe what happened overnight to less miles at kansas. The athletic director former arkansas. Id jeff long met the media late today. Do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com as the university of kansas and kansas. Athletics does with all hiring in hirings. We ran multiple background checks on coach. Miles i also ask coach miles directly during the interview process whether there was anything in his past that could potentially embarrass the university or himself for our program and he said no. We also did do digit due diligence by talking to individuals within the lsu athletics department to see if there was anything. We should be aware of regarding coach miles at lsu and receive no indications of any issues. I don't mean to laugh but does anyone really expect jeff long to believe him. We did our due diligence. We talk to people. Lsu but we didn't know about a scandal that was hushed up Who exactly did you call mr long. You think maybe you could have called the former athletic director your former colleague. Joel liba you think he may have. You think joel liba would lie to you. I don't think so. I think you could've called. Maybe your president could've called f king alexander who who knew about it. I realize i mean. I mean jeff. These are not believable things. You just got through saying there. I won't even bring arkansas into this. I know how arkansas fanciulla jeff. I'm trying to those of us in the media are used to being misled but to be blatantly. Lied to about something like that. I mean that's how stupid you look now. I didn't know about this last mile situation. But i wasn't calling joel leva for reference. I wasn't calling f king alexander. Who did you call it. Lsu could you answer that question. Let's get back to the calls. Eight five five two four two seven. Two eight five and john is up next. Hello john good afternoon. Paul are you. We are doing great ball. My question is i. Read the article in the atlanta journal this morning and about georgia paying players. And what i'm wondering is is there any way you can get that Reporter from baton rouge age appears to investigate john. The only thing. I know it. I thought i saw something about an investigation. Perhaps by the georgia high school athletic association. But here's the question i have. What exactly do you investigate. I don't know the article. Said that. Nick chubb got one hundred sixty thousand dollars. Okay so seems to me though the money trail some well. Yeah and and for the record. Mitch nick chubb has has vehemently denied that. But i i am not white trying to whitewash story. I'm just trying to understand where you go. And if you're let's just for the sake of argument if you're an investigator from the nc double a. What are your sources of information here. You you call nick chubb. And he says it's not true. I think the commissioner should be on this with both feet right now. Well first of all the commissioner of the sec in the sec office their job is not to investigate what they do is work with the university and turnover. What they believe they know to the nc double a. So i would think a- should be. They should be working this story right now and either put an end to it or take it where it goes. Well me ask you. This put put an in put an end to what well like. You said chubb. Vm in vehemently denies everything. That's out there so why not start there. Okay let me let me. Just go through this for a second with with john you you you try to talk to nick chubb. And he said. I've got nothing to say to you and he's under no obligation at this point As a professional player. He doesn't have to talk to anyone. So where do you go then. What paul. I'm not an investigative that i know when i was a kid that sports illustrated always had investigative reporters that data two stories and got to the bottom of what happened to those guys are well in fairness john They're not many of those guys left. Because i I wasn't ever a place that impressive. But i was one of those guys and it is a difficult thing. I am not coming up with a lot of. We can't do it but when you investigate a story you have to find a link and usually the links are somewhere in between. I know i would start with rush. Probst he would be my first call would not i would go see him and try to work the angles from him and then try to. He might he may slam the door facing may not but usually you find people close to the individuals. But all i'm trying to say is these are very difficult things to crack. And and just because somebody makes an allegation doesn't mean that it is ever going anywhere by the way it also doesn't mean that it's false. It just means that it may not the ncw has more jurisdiction and then a reporter for sports illustrated would have but You know and you know. That's why i'd like to see that Reporter from baton rouge get on because she seems like she can dig into stuff to me. Well she's very good. You're right but even on that story It's a very difficult thing to thank you for the call. Iran is up next. Hey ron good afternoon. Paul they give you. Just you know devil's advocate a little bit These investigative reporters. I'm sure they've got the job. They've got their duty trying to make a dollar and sell magazine or newspapers. But let's say the f. What if these young ladies are not innocent victims. What if their predatory out there and not they hadn't every single day you know women. They know what they're doing. They knew exactly what they're getting into. And i hate it when these people like last miles get vilified. When when we don't know the truth. I mean they come out with these reports they pick something up to eight years ago when happen tweet. Thirteen eight years ago and have come up with it. Just come up with the story jordan george. A whole ron. Ron hold on a second The reason why this came out now is because other things were not properly vetted in that athletic department when it comes to women so we're talking about a federal investigation here. We're not good. Hold on hold on hold it. No you run ho hold on a second. You can't make the claim that there was nothing to it. The athletic director of lsu recommended less miles be fired over these allegations. They're gonna make recommendations if somebody blows their nose around lay these days. This was ron raw twenty. Thirteen was not today. My point is this. I'm sick of people getting vilified over allegations like this when there. Yeah you know a run. I agree with you. I i would not be. I am sick of people. Being vilified victims asked my point. But you know what i'm also sick of. i'm sick. A powerful man like less miles taking advantage of their position and preying on young women. That's what i'm getting no. He's taking advantage of his position. How do we know these payments there. How do we know that he Well how about how about him. Big jim folsom said you bake that trap. With whiskey and women. You can catch me every time and that works with everybody. It's been that way injuries. And it will continue to be our way whether unit powerful position not. So what. Ron what are you saying. You're you're saying that You're not if it's true then you can't fault less miles. What are you saying. What i'm saying is that he not be deemed to be vilified in the press that we know more about it. I mean well. Well well let me let me just end this conversation because we have to go. What we know is this. We know that the athletic director at lsu thought he should be fired over it and we do and we also know that the athletic director at kansas fired him over it so we do know a few more things than what you think. Maybe going on here anyway. I appreciate your call. It's always great to hear from you. We will take a break and we have more to come right after listening to paul finebaum. Show podcast back in the straight to you for the final thirty minutes. Steve is in california. Hello steve are doing paul. Thank you very much for taking my call. Thank you so my question for you is is going to work into. This is when baylor went through this. They got lucky may really did but lsu we know the sec takes care of their blue buds is going to happen. Are they gonna dig into this. Well let's let's remember. We just had an independent investigation The recommendations have been made. They don't seem to satisfy everyone based on what we heard from the reporter yesterday under gallo the department of education is still conducting investigation but knowing your bureaucracy of the federal government. I sincerely doubt much will happen in a timely fashion. So really the only other alternative out there would be the nc double a. To come in. And there's very little precedent for the ncwa coming in on things like this. So i don't think much else is going to happen. Well here. I mean this is title line issue and listen to the android gallo. Yesterday she brought up. The point that i was in control of the title line complained department was in control of something else right so i mean it's gotta stop somewhere here. I would agree. And i don't know all the match nations of what's going on in baton rouge. I'm sure there a heavy legal Influenced down there in terms of how they are how they are dealing with this. But i i. All i know is what everyone else does in in reading that report. I mean these these sound like some very serious allegations low. It's very serious. I mean. I'm not a jeff long fan i'm to. Let's just go there. But i mean he had to separate himself from last night he did and i think he had a choice. I don't think jeff long is long for that job. Either and i would have preferred hitler's coming out today and saying we got conned by less miles but he wasn't about to say that. Because you know it you know he wrote he wrote les malls a check for two million dollars. Today that's how that's how disgusting. These allegations were jeff long. I would've i would've fired. I would fired less miles for. I mean less miles clearly lied to kansas. They asked him if he had anything is background. He said no fire. The guy wouldn't why would you give him anything. But again i'll i'll let jeff long worry about that ship who's up next good afternoon chip. I am well. Thank you for the call Longtime listener first time caller Well say longtime listener. I'm only twenty seven years old but guaranteed twenty years that it's been listening to you from. Am six ninety. Four five for him appreciate Anyways yeah i just wanted to make a tunnel. I guess about this whole less miles ridiculousness. Of course. I'm an alabama country so most people didn't lock him anyways but at least people around here i can say most people around here at least my friends and people that i talk to that. Pay attention to football. We have been studying that he is just a creep in our weirdo. For as long as i can remember. And i've been collins i one day. Something's gonna come out about this. Yeah and I don't know i. We knew that one day this is going to happen and as you say that. He knows joa lever or they were colleagues. Well you remember Joe aleve and and jeff long would sit in the same room together. Sec meetings Jeff long until a couple years ago was it was at arkansas. So yeah okay. yeah. And i'm pretty sure i. I am pretty sure that jeff long tried to hire less miles while he was at arkansas and he didn't he didn't ask him for any advice. Any anything about less miles out of that well. No he Jeff long was desperate for a big higher and he he he thought less miles would be a comedian and by the way he's not the only one. I've been chastised a few times my colleagues for for being cruel less miles at kansas and i never when you win a national championship that will carry you a long way and i think everyone thought. Hey let's miles. He's a great coach. How come he hasn't gotten the job. Well the people in baton rouge know forget. Forget the the allegations. He shouldn't have gotten a job based on on the way he coached the lsu football team the last four years. That's exactly what i was about to go to kansas. They haven't been kansas guy. would they. Deserved jeff thought he was hiring. Jimmy kimmel out. There and a lot of people enabled less mile. Don't don't remember. He was in the movies he was on tv. He did a bunch of stuff because he could be funny. Creep is a pretty good word to describe him. Hey thanks for the call appreciate it. Billy is up next. Hey billy thanks good afternoon. Hey paul how are you doing. Well thank you great man. Yeah take a deep breath. You've had a long day a lot of interesting callers. no doubt about it but yeah I don't want to harp on the lsu thing but It looks like you know the pieces of the puzzle or starting to kind of fall into place of like you know. The culture of like what was acceptable was allow. You know all those things are starting to kind of make sense now of what was developing there. Yeah i would agree. I think there. I hope they have solved the issues. I think they have now that it's it's out under the sunshine but Economy went on for sure. Yeah you gotta pull. It reminded the rock and and you know and shake it loose They have a lot of potential. You know everything they bring in you know. Lsu you know the potential the athletes everything else you know to have something like this hanging over them. you know it. Is you know something that this needs to move on as fast as possible. Let the investigations happen. Let's sanctions happened. Let everything happened And then you know move forward. Hey thank you for the call. We had to break. It's been a busy show. Some crate guests from regarded tennessee. Mitch barnhart the university of kentucky and the head of the men's basketball committee. Bruce feldman was with us earlier and jay bilas from espn. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern. You own or rent your home sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. 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Sure you'd think that when the penn state scandal went down if they would have shut football program down completely would have all these problems we have now because someone has to pay a price and someone has to be made an example of or give whoever enough encouragement to fix these things when they come up. No i understand what. Smu's program when smu shut down in the eighties. Did anyone stop cheating. No i was covering college football and it didn't really it was just depend. State case frankly The university paid a tremendous price The entire leadership was was fired Including joe paterno and this is this is a this is a different type of case and there is so much. We don't know but i would i. I would like to know what the athletic director was thinking. I would like to know what the school president was thinking. I would like to know what the board of trustees were thinking and remember twenty thirteen. Lsu was still really prominent football program. It was it was a year after lsu started the season number one in the country. And you know less miles had nearly won the title in eleven and he was on top of the world. So what's the answer. paul. What's the i will tell you this. Today's in twenty twenty one. The the world isn't a much different place and it wasn't twenty thirteen. And i just don't think something like this. Would you would be able to get away. And i'm like a caller mentioned earlier. I mean no one here wants to see false accusations destroy somebody's career but in this case I don't believe these were false I mean there may be interpretation but but clearly less miles was was playing with fire here and nobody in his position. Nobody should should should take that chance. And and i speak for anyone in public life Whether it's the head football coach at at at lsu a governor new york. It's all the same There is a bright spotlight on you. And you're not going to be able to outrun it. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it very very much. Chris is up next. Hey chris good afternoon. Hey paul thanks for taking my call. Thank you This lsu thing. This is still ongoing. I mean the basketball team has still got that coach. You're right yeah. You're absolutely right about that. So aim one other thing. And then i'll let you get Gentleman called the other day and asked about hockey in the south. And i tried to get on. But i got home before i could in alabama has a hockey team and a half since two thousand five. They played at pelham civic center. Now there are club right. Yes but tennessee has one too. Yeah i know about the alabama when i was The tennessee one Yeah i know. I know the college hockey teams. And there's but anyway thanks. Thank you for sharing that with us though. Sure you'd be well and you take care of yourself if you want to get in this a good time. We're opening up some lines quickly at eight five two four two seven two eight five dentist dodge shortly and we'll get his take on less. Miles zach is in ohio. Hello zack afternoon. Good afternoon to you coupon how you doing we're doing great. Thank you I do wanna say. Oh more talk about java basketball but i was doing my research the other day and i and i was reading the last time. A team went undefeated in the regular season and won the national championship was in nineteen. Seventy six dollars thinking like oh my goodness that was way before my time so i'm ruined for gonzaga. That was indiana does happen. Yeah sure i don't know if you research I'm pretty sure. Las vegas went to the final game in lost to duke really. But i mean they didn't. They weren't undefeated but you're right. That was that was one of the great basketball teams of all time The that indiana team. Yeah i'm room frigging zog. I wanna see this happening. Even though i'm a big ten guy well they had they have been terrific and i you know they. They would have been one of the favorites going into last year's tournament as well was act. Thank you for the call. Appreciate it Let's check in with jamie jamie and huntsville alabama. Hey jamie good afternoon. Paul pleasure to speak with you. Thank you jamie. They're just too many specifics. In these allegations for not to be some kind of merit to it and i think we do have a smoking gun in this and i think that smoking gun is the settlement. Because why would you settle something if there was no substantiated You know issue and well let me. Let me try to ask them. And i the only time you do that is if you're trying to avoid You know the public revelation of it. And you know. I know people and you probably do too. When they've been falsely accused of something they almost come off guilty because they're so adamant about it. I've been there before correct. Not not in this type of situation but you know in a in a you know you you said that you told somebody something You know miles looks pretty creepy and all this. There's no getting around it and i. I just cannot believe that that. Kansas is not going to be aggressive in the investigation. His his current statutes that status. I think they're going to have to because if they don't they're going to subject themselves. Yeah to a similar type. Probe an investigation that You know. I go hunting. And sometimes i don't see any deer but i might see a few squirrels along the way you don't ever invite the devotee your to your front door so now i mean the the guy made an interesting point a minute ago about we'll wade That's been a hard case to figure out from the beginning. But they've got they've got it on on various fronts down there and yeah i know it's a very political environment in baton rouge but they they. They're not going to be able to tap dance their way out of this. This is going to be the the department of justice investigating here absolutely and you've already got the department of justice investigating the basketball program. You've got title nine issues going on which is gonna just probably go hand in hand with this so it's Man is a this is a bad time to be an administrator at louisiana state university. I hope is not in not out here. You know a change of administration can mean a lot of things to a lot of people but one place that it it is really going to change is in the In the justice department the attitude. i think You know might tilt a little bit more negatively against against the environment down there. Yeah because this is this. We're not talking about recruiting violations or you know having a barbecue you and jimmy one more thing and people may disagree with me on this. There's one more thing you have to watch out. Oh a lot of times in an investigation especially a federal investigation. You know can be fueled by certain things but there's one constant in all of this and that has been the presence of usa. Today they broke the original story. They have been aggressive and it is a national publication and that affects and influences rightly or wrongly prosecutors. Absolutely one hundred percent correct. Well paul thank you for having me on the show. Thank you issue. And i'm eager to see how how this unfold appreciate jamie a good good to hear and i know people are saying. The media doesn't matter anymore times. I really don't okay but when you have And there are very few influential publications or entities in whether it's news sports when you have one that large it's largest circulation newspaper in the country. Which is insane much by the way and they are. They are locked in that means. They've got sources somewhere that means they are connected to it and that means they are committed to it. We'll take a break. Dennis dodd will join us a couple minutes. We'll get his take on what it all means. He lives in kansas. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast do own or rent your home share you and i bet it can be hard work you know it's easy bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com denna quote and see how much you could save. Its geico easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps retailers. Manage supply chains with watson wall predicting demands with ease. The world going hybrid with ibm visit. Ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud back late on a thursday afternoon. The less miles story certainly making a tremendous amount of news and this is only thursday. We'll know more tomorrow about what the rest of the university looks like and right now. Dennis todd covers college football for cbs. Sports happens to live barely in the state of kansas. As well be interested how the reaction out there has been dennis. Thank you for the time. And we're all pretty eager to get your thoughts on what's happening in baton rouge yeah and thirty miles for me and And lawrence kansas Yeah this is we. Just for some reason. I just seem to lose dennis Duluth him We were talking to dennis he lives in kansas. Not too far from lawrence we're Less miles is currently employable. See we have do dentistry. You back yeah okay. For some reason who knows. It doesn't matter. But i'm glad you're back has yep No i was just saying we're going to wait for the exceed. Drop tomorrow with that other report. What's most distressing to me to this. Point is you have these allegations against the the highest paid employee in the state and they were sat on. I would say you know suppressed by lsu and less lawyers for eight years and it took a lawsuit on a media company to to make them public and bravo for usa today for doing that You know i the truth to power and making people accountable and we would have never known notice that they not discovered this reporting for larger issues of sexual harassment. That i think that's the most troubling in listen there's plenty of time to figure What it all means And you're right now. It's been a battle between less miles as attorney and court down there but now that we know a little bit more what does that tell you about the the culture down there in two thousand thirteen and the reason twenty thirteen is important because it leads into twenty fifteen when somebody some some of these more serious allegations Leveled well. And i think the next step at lsu is joe aleve has got some explaining to do in the middle of this less In extension and a raise with the face of that he deserved Given what you've done to that coin but he did that with the knowledge that there were these allegations there and you know if true you know any of this if true and other you know example at the tail wedding dog it's the winning percentage trump's off Win enough games. Did they just about everything we sit. Say to be fair. Less less said that You know he. I don't eat benighted until i just got to report. But he didn't think it rose to the level that the invested the third party investigation did and tomorrow. It's going to be another day. Dennis as you know that there's a whole lot. There's a lot more to it. I mean we know about this today because of of of the ongoing battle. But you you mentioned joe alava. Let me ask you about jeff. Long he is the director of kansas You're you're pretty close to that program because of and we all know less and jeff What are we heard so far. And what do you. What would you anticipate. We're going to hear in the future. Well nothing from jap law. Nothing really some kansas. Who released a statement. Basically saying doesn't wait until the this other information comes out tomorrow. I would say this just the general in places you know other cases have come up like this when you're hiring coach. You know you can find out as much as you want to find out. I know that this story a few years ago. Where i i think was after the thing broke and i caught to these guys was former department of justice was former. Fbi who formed this company. You'll did this sort of thing. So schools corporations you know big time. Employees support a higher than that. That was the message whole score. You can find out just about anything. You want to find out. And certainly if kansas done through diligence i think they could have found out. It will make the suppress from the media. But you know a call to kill the you know. Is there anything in you know you know. Maybe that call me. I don't know. But i think there's gonna be. Some questions weighs about betting. A coach who up to that point did nothing quirky But that doesn't excuse anybody from you know a deep back land set isn't always a well known public figure in into what they could have done or did. Yeah a and you know all these. All these people know each other but jeff long enjoy. Leyva serve then sat together countless times at Sec meetings fell athletic directors. Yeah that he's tonight's sure look at something they thought Lsu's thought was never going to see the light of day been portrayed because they they fought from what i read. They fought the lawsuit. By say could ain't now they didn't want it to come out and finally i think whereas lessons attorney said well then we might as well let it come out and In start defending or or start the defensive. Whatever whatever you wanna call. They're going to handle this Because it look like an inevitable you saw that You know the judge said it was going to be. She saw the redemptions but to me. It didn't take really it. Protect the privacy of people in didn't take away the essence of the report. In other words we all see paul documents so redacted it was ridiculous. You meant you to hide information. I don't think this twin natsume plus and for those who want to think of less miles late in his career to to i guess two years later i mean this was pretty much. Peak last mile played for the title and eleven had started to number twenty twelve is number one in the country and you know the program started slip ever so slightly during this year. I don't i don't know the context of what point in the year. We're talking about less. Miles was still in pretty pretty big command of issue and and a major player in college football at the time. Yeah right up until The first four games of two thousand sixteen when he was fired. Because as i recall young people work or And i went to that monthly september. I think he is out so his his influence. That's as a public figure which you know. The beloved public figure had not in the least Alabama had kept told on on the sem college football. But lsu is right there at the time as as But again you know. It's like a gus malzahn thing at all their need one but didn't want enough. It didn't win the right things. Dennis i know tomorrow is going to be a big day for when when this report is out and tonight. Headlines are all about less miles but but he may not be the most important part of all day morrow what what without any of us knowing. What's in the report. What do you expect. It looks like more detail from what usa today Load an entire context of their stories. So far is that there were Sexual harassment claims in worse at fellas shoe and ls shoe have swept under the rug Ernest guys his name was mentioned some other some other players And there were some people that were assaulted. Allegedly assaulted them with very distressed. About this. and there's going to be people there that are going to have to answer for this. I mentioned joel either Who else knew about it. Assume what did they know. you know. It sounds like sounds sony but you know that that's what it comes down to and it's not even edina case him the climate of today that this is bad in any climb you know assault of another human being is not right now and and And i as i was describing this earlier. I'm saying it twenty thirteen. It wasn't like it was Centuries ago but You know. I i think i think the tolerance at least publicly as even gone You know it's a much. It's a much more suffocating standard than it was even then today it is. that's fair. that's fair i think it is just Just knowing k. You like You know better than i do. can you imagine less mile surviving. This i right now. It's hard to see him surviving I don't know what soup that's going to whether it be a resignation or firing firing with 'cause You know it's the up. Besides the fat is three eighteen. That's football question to be answered but it would be hard and again you know to be fair. There are allegations and and we'll see what the response is at some point. The people involved going to have to speak publicly. I know. I called over there this week to just kind of probing to see hey wednesday when spring practice starting assuming you know less was going to have to get in front of the microphone at least try to talk about football. They don't even have to spring date yet. As far as i know in football march fourth. That's kind of odd power five program so you know we'll see I'm not predicting he won't make it. Look at doesn't doesn't look good right. Yeah it was like he just came off of a new year six win so and people were saying why should that matter but we both have covered college. Football long enough to know in this story is is is Is is evidence enough that that those things do matter and don't forget they just got done with the bitter fi al legal battle with david batie over his buyout. They said he was fired. 'cause for some nca violations. I think there were some issues with people on the staff that were coaching. That shouldn't have been Both at games and practice and it was caught on film in may use that Those are nc allegations to cannot pay david beatty. So you're going to have that. If you let go of last mile. I would anticipate some sort of fine. And the basketball tastes. You know that will be the the least part of the headline when ku basketball gets gets hit in the sdn y case. But yeah there. There's there's a financial aspect to it as as well. I would expect the clearly lawyers immediately speak dennis. Thanks for coming on great insight. Always appreciate it all right paul. Thanks so much. Great stuff and again. That's a story that Well as salacious disgusting as the story is tonight a bigger story tomorrow. Depending on what that internal report says now. This is an independent law firm. This isn't the university. And so the you. You never know what you're going to get and by the way doesn't really even matter what the what the universities says there does tamar you still have the justice department investigating it and that may be the biggest concern of of all. We will continue. It didn't mean to completely Blow up where where we had been on the program. We certainly had covered a lot of subjects. We have thirty minutes remaining. If you wanna get in on this or anything else you can do so now at eight five five two four two seven two eight five listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. Look more of your calls coming up. Now let's check in with will who is on the line. Hey will paul. What's up mega meadows. Paul haven't heard that in a while to bet. I thank you sorry wrong. Yeah look about this last mile business So i mean say nothing. Grain culture at lsu. Is that correct well. The the feds are investigating the culture from title nine standpoint possibly culture as it goes back for years right in its stomach. Hit with him in the water. Yeah so i mean who was the coach there before less miles saving the little man the little man in the straw hat right so that let's miles won a national championship in two thousand seven and everybody was saying that wasn't really his national championship that that was actually savings national championship. Is that correct I'm guilty of that. Yes so about that same logic. He now we're talking about indulge here must miles right. This was somebody who who who was a head coach prior this wasn't An assistant under nick sabin. He came from oklahoma state. He put he changed his. You know the difference between let's see sabin left in two thousand and four. We're talking about seven years of time. Yeah well i mean. I know for a fact that when curley hallman was there i know i talked to a couple of young women. When hallman was still there that hallman had done. Hold on. stop here. I don't mean to interrupt but i can't allow a A an unsubstantiated allegation here. I i'm not saying you're right or wrong i we just. We just can't permit that. I appreciate your call and By the way we we. I just saw something. I don't know why i'm laughing. But it was a report out of out of knoxville by By trae wallace. Who's well known talk show host erin. reporter tennessee. Apparently has filled The last spot on their roster today on their coaching roster which means that the kevin he said the kevin steele error in knoxville was officially over. That's great let's get back to the calls and bam. Nick is up next. he'll obama. Paul finebaum doing buddy. I'm doing well thank you. I want to talk about When i called in last friday you remember that and menace. After i thought i managed after i called monkey. Man and squirrel called in about my call. You remember that fall. I don't forget too much that happens here. I know why god and i haven't called. I don't call show every day like i used to. Whenever i call was like i man and squirrels always called n dogar bob. May i know. I'll says Wouldn't jam would go in years ago. They call it and didn't on jams. A nikki got to take that as a compliment when other callers call in about your call. Well i know that boat and you said i was a collared and i know that i mean you. The most sincere former flattery. It is and i appreciate When people call and comment on my calls to your show we nick you say that the wolves were out afterwards. Yeah all but one bugs me about it. They say oh call in and talk about is is alabama football or s net. What your your show is a call in sports show and tv radio show right. That is correct. So what else am i gonna do. You wanna hear me talk about my days in the military as a bounty hunter or a bill collector. You know yeah. I was a mounting on a years dope. All i mean. I i talk about a when i was on power up in mecklenburg county and kings bay georgia when i'm baseball softball and shaul it. All macomer gun. I can talk stories about that. I mean you know. What else do you want me to talk about. Whatever you like. I like talking alabama. Football nasa sports. Talk show. I don't get in my personal business when i call this show. Well talk show is talk about sports but occasionally hold on a second. I'm i'm an wants to jump on. Do you have time to talk to him. Yeah put him oh. Let me ask emily if she can lock. I'm an on with a with a bama nick. Yeah okay. I think i think everybody's here new and paul. How are we going to make you know. Calm down calm down. I said hello. I didn't say i like you. I said hello. Now i wanted. Where else market nece- knee. So you see you're talking all over yourself. I'm trying to pay you a compliment. But you a hard day you. You're listening link. Please please you know i was trying to bring attention to your call because maybe these other callers around the world and outer space didn't quite gifted grasp of the the the the genuine bammer nick that we know and i was trying my best now and i'm a known caller onus program and i leave you a helping hand to pull us through the wrath of all the grapevines and kudzu and and stammered and stumbling and all that to give you a compliment to put you in the front of the state. That's what i was trying man Listen to me now. I listen which said. 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Hour 4: 10/24/18

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 4: 10/24/18

"Fried passion patterns of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show our four podcast. Welcome Martinez Ivy joining us shortly. But right now, let's continue with the final hour of our program and check in with Dilip in Memphis. Hello, philip. Philip you there. I like to sound that I know of. Wish to answer. The phone Ken is in Knoxville. Ken, welcome good afternoon. Are you doing today? Oh, good. Thank you very much. Mccall and everything just want to. Your urine. On your firm everything day. I'm a first time caller with the all time thing often. But I'm tired of hearing tired of hearing about the integrity of -ficiating. I don't think people realize how hard those guys working how many years it takes to get this things like that. And we started questioned somebody to take her just like if somebody question your integrity, Paul. I'm that's not good. You you work a long hard to get where you wars sportswriter and everything that you've done to get there. So those guys are doing a great job as far as the LSU hit versus the Alabama hit the LSU hit to meet semi questionable. But the hit the back was put on the quarterback for Tennessee. I was at the ballgame saw the game very clean helmets nowhere near the next year or the or the head areas of people do about that they'll get, you know, all the calls like bad and third thing really is just the fact that hey, we play games play the game with who's going to say L is you'll be album or vice versa. That's why the Klay games lineup every single week and people predicting or. Are trying to you know, just based on bias that you know, who's gonna win and Elba made the body L shitting they bought him on his LSU seven one Alabama seat. No Florida's seven one Georgia said one that's local football plan to get to that point the SEC. If we talked about this he being the desk conference in the country. Hold time. Ken one point you made. I want to address in. I don't think people understand that. Yeah. I realize this is a fan show, everyone has their partisan feelings. But when you when you were a professional at any level. Where you went to school doesn't matter anymore. It's it's it's not what you do. And you try to do the best. You can always got a kick out. I was friends with some more thematic surgeons back in Alabama. And they and I once went with Jim Andrews is well known surgeon as you probably know I went with one with him doing Alabama game where he was the team doctor, and then we went to the Auburn game. He he's he's t you think he cares. I mean, he doesn't care where where you're in by the way, he played he ran track at LSU. But the point being he's a professional and he got there by being the best in. He's he's not thinking about one school versus the other neat. Neither are the officials and neither are the administrators. And the only reason I say that all the same from officiates. I've got a lot of friends that are all fficials. And I'm actually a college baseball fish myself won't tell you what I'm affiliated with anything else. But you know, when people when people start Chris mentality. I mean, I work my butt off the bit thing. I want the calls we made right? And like the good officials will tell you when they make a bad call. They don't try to make bad calls. You know, hate to say it this way, they get saying same money. No matter who wins the ballgame. Like, I said the lot of pride and make sure they have good competent officials good unbiased officials and every conference can you know, one chain when you do a game you're being judged by how you do that game. You're you're not doing it in under the in at midnight. And no one's watching you. Great on. And that's that's exactly true. It's just that. We all time they think, you know, he likes time. But how do you feel about getting yelled of? Well, I'm married. I get yelled at. On on the field. But also what what they say from -ficiating will they spec the show up. Perfect and get better from there is what they always expect right line. Yeah. Tell people just relax them if this shade. And they're doing a heck of a job that they weren't. They weren't be there. They'd be replaced. Sure. You that? That's exactly correct. Hey, thank you, very very much. Really good. Call Bobby is up next in Birmingham. How you done Dade bread, Bobby? I'm doing well. Thank you. Good. Evie and it's time. Bama Kennedy's game against Bush as has to go to the play out. And they say to play with to plan the folklore against LSU is always something fishes. She abound. Always something look, hey, all you say this issue. They game played on the field. And you've got to suit up and play the game. And it never miss. Wean us in nam everytime. We suit up we believe we can win the damn gain. I let you later, but. Okay. Dave is up next in North Carolina holiday. Hi, paul. Thank you of Macau. Thank you. That Florida and Georgia game. What year was that? They lay off their schools and started had hat having Jacksonville. I'm trying to remember not minimum morning Bill. I think it's been Jacksonville. All but one or two years when who was a. Floor one of the school. When I think when the gator bowl is being renovated. Long as I can remember that's a long time. And ask you now, then ran for you know, today to gang so much faster than it did twenty thirty years ago and this tough on them. They don't realize how fast these guys move on feeling high after late. They are and how the gang guys and Bob otherwise Jacksonville since thirty three as longtime wow longer than out south, you know? And can't let me ask you this these member to coach ninety four together, I know wouldn't pale. Well, eighty four though, let me think Pell was the coach prior who took over for pill schilling. Name is rod nine. I'm. Recording. Things office Colin either full team strike. Yeah. That's that's exactly who it. Well, he he really was a good coach I run a couple of times in can't think of his name off the top of my head. But he did a really nice job. He did. I was in a woman Lynch you'll name Paul is all in my family. My granddaddy my daddy. My broilers your nose just nine that been tradition in my family, by the way. I thank you for that about Galen hall was his name. Yes. He's he's a great coach in. I always have a lot of respect for that my in. I just always a good parsing. Always tried his best today. Do right? I believe that was a great that gator team lost early. And it had an amazing run one game that year. I remember. Hurricane. Yeah. Yeah. That's right Gaylon coach until late into the eighties. And then he left and there was an interim coach briefly. And then they ultimately brought in Steve Spurrier. Yes, sir. Estranged vying Kasparov house, I was always a big fan. His when I got send up there, little Carolina. I was trying to probably little dog way by spa, and I was at university and rain into and down here. I didn't get much as they see sports in North Carolina back Dan day now, and then next thing after coach Duke little bit airy was implored him. Our so typical and I won't ask you this. Do you ever think there could be three SEC teams in the playoffs? No, I saw someone. Thanks for the call. I saw someone come up with a scenario. I I'm not sure we're going to see two again. And I that's based on anything other than just a guess. But I think it's hard to pull that off. You have to have the two best teams. I think in the country, and possibly you could see it this year, but three no. Not happening. Larry is up next. Hey, wouldn't that be miracle? Oh, never end of it, man. That'd be a conspiracy of this role. We we live in perfect. Well, you know bad calls, but I I'm quick I know I don't end up, but my friend passed away Friday, not that is home. My golfing, buddy. Hamburgers Nick nine. Okay. He is way like five hundred and ten pounds and file. Fouth that so hard and tried to have surgeries forty seven years old goodness. Yeah. Man, we loved him. And they he found it real hard. And I tried to do surgery tight that access often and almost lost him on opera title. So he just said forget it. And they told me man, I give up and so have you went back to knocking embers out and that other stuff, so, but he was a great guy and a lot of listeners man, I know him, and but anyways, I'll I'll just loved him. This almost down to five out there killed. But I loved in math. How play let me put that in there? Paul rota. Larry sorry to hear that. Thank you, very very much. A squirrel is up next. Yeah. Really lers loss. You know, probably Monday show, you you came in with that Bedia James Carville so fast, we didn't get to savor the Tennessee Alabama game very much. Did you enjoy your trip to Knoxville? Yes. I did. I always do. Did you stick around for the game? The answer is no. And it's the same answer every week because I I have another. You gotta be well, go up to Connecticut every Saturday. So that's why I don't stick around very often. Good this one that you games that I miss. I just wonder you know, how early the stadium store I was predicting early third quarter. You know, when you have some feedback from somebody who was maybe there. Hey, and I was listening to first of all I wanna thank you for being such a liberal host as you are. Well, you know. I'm not too liberal host. You got to you got to do a lot to get band. Not to say, you couldn't get banned for this show. But but you got to do a pretty good bit to get ban. But I appreciate you kind of have it back. Jim was wanted to throw up under the bus day? Jim claimed I'm a liar and everything you've met me before Paul what you call. It. Would you say I'm halfway credible meant you several times? I n v very credible. Yes. Okay. So I don't know where it's coming from Larry thing. I just ask proof probably's allegations that he made just really been doing this show just wanna say Hello and take care. Thank thank you very much work against to break. We are expecting conversation shortly with Martez IV the linemen from Gainesville or continue with that. And more of your calls on a Wednesday afternoon to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back to the program. We are. So glad you're with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. We've had pretty busy array of guess. It's. And we're not done yet Heisman watch too in Cuyler sit one and two again, they started the season that way Cuyler Murray took a walk in the park, but he's back. But does he have enough firepower to unseat to Duane Haskins dropped a little bit? The rest of the list pretty self explanatory. We always talk about Heisman winners on Wednesday night because of our low cow, what might two thousand ten Cam Newton's had this to say good evening. I am Richard calico. And then a moment on behalf of the Heisman trustees. I will be announcing the winner of the seventy six is been trophy from now on you on name will always be followed by Heisman Trophy winner. Without further ado, the winner of this year's Heisman Trophy is. And the envelope. The winner is Cam Newton. I given to honor and glory know, who's the head of my life and without him right now. You know, we all would not even be here. I know. So thank you for that. Also like to thank my beautiful mother. Jackie Newton and my father. No this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Gene Chizik sitting right behind. This is Newton. We will you more of your phone calls. Eight five five to four to seven to eight five and Kevin in Albany, Georgia. Good afternoon. Hey, good afternoon fall on Kevin once again just had two questions that I want to issue in regards Jake foam. The first question is what is your report card on him prior to the LSU game? I think he's he's been inconsistent. Issuer? I'm not sure it's entirely his fault. He doesn't have the same apparatus around him that he did last year. Okay. Paneling question was credited you give him for as simple as a lot of Georgia fan say what he told us championship game. And this and that how much credit do you give them? I give him credit. I listen, I think he's an outstanding quarterback. But a lot of great quarterbacks struggle when they don't have an offensive line blocking for them. And they don't have the kind of receivers and running backs that that you need. He has good running backs this year. But are they in the say, you know, maybe it's slight drop-off last year. But, but you know to me the problem on Georgia's that defense doesn't look as sharp. I mean, I had Oland Oletta looking at that everyone making have time. I thought about that. You know guy playing on appoint that making the code and and wire saying in my opinion. Pentagon or last year you have playmaker. I was throwing stay like. That lasted he can't get about fail. So that's my water military fair. It's a fair. Now. I still think the the final chapter is not been written on him. I think this team just came into the season bogged down with with expectations, and I think sometimes it's it's a little bit hard to overcome. But should they beat Florida this weekend? I think that gives them an opportunity then go to Kentucky and and get back to where they thought and most everyone predicted they would end up the season. Thank you for the call. Great to hear from you Jimmy is in Chicago on the air. Go right ahead. Jimmy. Hey, paul. Yeah. You know, we've talked already some Stephan one situation. We lost Jimmy for some reason. I'm not sure why. We'll get him back. David is up next. David is in South Carolina. Hello, david. Hey, paul. Thanks not way. Ask you. How you doing? Never do because I know you doing okay, I'm doing great. Thank you. I'm gonna pick on your first before asked. What question remember thirty when it was raining enough. Phil Laura said, you would only want it didn't have to worry. Oh, yeah. I do remember that that was that was not kind. No it wasn't. But it was funny. Hey, I'm Anita number your Barbara to my here grows. Wait too fast. You know, my problem is when I walk in a barbershop all five guys start laughing. No, man, you we're gonna hear. I wish I feel but I got tickets to the Kentucky game. So I'm gonna be up there that we initially. We had a really good time up there. I know you did it look like he did. Hey, I'm thinking six and six volunteers there. You know, I call the shame that for reason we got them this weekend. You were high on them you've been home. I listen. I it's kinda you know, you there's that person that always breaks, your heart. The Gamecocks of the team it always breaks, my heart. Well today I landed four tickets from a game called club member. That's the good friend of mine. Two can't go. So it's supposed to be fifty three with a chance of rain. But anyway, what do you think we pulled out when all can we go six and six and make a bowl? So let me think let me do the math. So can for Tennessee to get to a bowl game. They're no they're going to need to beat South Carolina, Charlotte, Charlotte that's five we got a Duckie, Missouri at home. And then I I'm going to say right now, I think Tennessee, we'll get to get to six wins. I think so too. I think we can be Vanderbilt on the road. But we gotta pull either Kentucky, Missouri. Well, I think Missouri is going to be more manageable than. Stuck? Well, they put up a lot of points. That's for sure. And before you go. Let me say Garin tunnel has got to be the toughest quarterback in the SEC is AM. Day. What it says he gets a bowl game because I'm sorry. I mean, they have some players there. But they don't have enough. And that was put on full display Saturday gets the best team in the country. Did you hear what Pruitt said a halftime? I did. Yeah. About needy more players. Hey, he's going to do it. You know? I really I saw. I saw Pruitt Saturday morning. And I just continue to be impressed by everything about him. He just doesn't let any the noise bother him. He he's true to true to form. He's not trying to be anything. But a football coach. That's all he's trying to do with former in his back pocket. He's going to be doing a great job. You always think about the perfect boss. And he and I think Phillip is the perfect boss for a young. Hey football, right? Real quick. Let me say that land. Jim have got to beat the biggest idiots. They call your show. No, Jim don't even talk about football at all. All he does call to hear self-talk and when Lance talks he talks about Florida, and they got a good year. Go and no doubt about that. But he don't know nothing about any other team. All he can tell you about Florida. So he just big dump behind it. Jim is this is a great call here. David. Thank you. Always good to hear from you. Thanks. Great stuff. Jimmy and Chicago try you again, Jim you sound like you're in a rainstorm. Actually, I I don't know what happened I I should be in a bad reception area. But and trauma cited by this phone from they're only there, so we'll give it another try. But yeah, you know, we've had all this talk about seven fly. All week and so forth. But you know, very little mention has been made of LA shoes off. And I thought it was really underwhelming against state. I mean, they I don't know maybe produced about two hundred thirty yards total offense and really the only touchdown. They scored was. I think an interception. They returned it down to wanted to your life. But they just weren't able to to do by Chen. And again, do you do you see any way that they would be able to come even close to producing wants to, you know, kill them a shot against family because it's going to be. Would you have to you can't look at last year the year before as as an indicator because you know, because you fall Alabama how Sabin has played that game. He is essentially said, I don't need more than ten points to beat LSU. And in some years he hasn't scored, but that's not how Alabama plays anymore. Absolutely not. And you know, but I just thought it always shoe would be a little farther along and then they showed last week against date. But you know, they're going to pull out everything, but the kitchen sake, you'll probably which is unusual for for them though. I heard Jamie Ricardo's playing wide receiver. Oh, yeah. Oh, speak to squirrel talking about Carville. Ping eighty I'd liberal actually, I think rob rod Rosenstein fits that description. I mean, you talk about a VDI character, man. I would trust. That guy's sparse. I threw it man. I mean, but but anyway, yeah, Carville seemed to have the new that that's the first time in the history of the show rod Rosenstein been attack. The description is what got my tension. 'cause that's what I think every time. I see that. Jimmy. It's I don't trust anyone Washington doesn't matter. We are. They are who they are. But that's pretty good advice. But also not much. It's been mentioned about this. I wanted to congratulate the buckeyes for what is become an annual side touchdown loss. Well, twenty nine points. I realized that's one point urban has has turned this program around from thirty one point loss the previous two seasons. Well, what was really oppressive about this one though was that it was the second consecutive Divi against an unranked opponent. Yeah. Well, that's our day. And then not only that. But it gets the team started the season owing three including a loss to eastern Michigan. And if you want to compare the two conferences you look at Missouri's winless in the s. SEC yet. They got it it produced, and then you look at Vanderbilt they play Notre Dame in south bend everywhere. You could outplay team and very easily could have won. So people try to say all look at these teams than engineer nine told you in the season. Okay. I'm gonna give you produce straight up again. So high state let alone. Winning by twenty nine. I mean that would be bigger than the mega lottery. What was that? How many a couple of billion six whatever I didn't win doesn't matter. If I had one I wouldn't have been here today. I promise you you. And I. The beers are on me. We'll break to come a five to four to seven to eight five thirty minutes ago on a Wednesday afternoon. Arteta's Ivy can't wait to catch up with him. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Technology truth brought to you by Geico. Truth teenagers can communicate entirely in emojis. Why Tom birthday party dislikes kitten sucker bulb pineapple proof? It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Why are you talking about paper clips shoulder? Shrug high five wizard. What go fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more Mortezavi be the ready than we are heading down to Florida and welcome in Martinez. Martinez. Great to have you on. It's so great to finally get you and congratulations on out standing season before. Thank you. Well, I know this is special game for all Florida Gators your native of that state describe what it's like getting ready to head to Jacksonville for the Florida Georgia game all the excitement in the world right now. I mean is probably one of the big guys who had all season. And it's about our peparation. How? How I would prepare for this week and how and that's how we approach the game outside of that what we do throughout the week from Monday to Thursday Martinez. Everyone knows what what's at stake. I want to step back for a second. Because I remember being down there year ago for this game. It was a tough time your coach was about to leave. And then the the season just didn't didn't end very well. And you're comes Dan Mullen, pick that up pick that story up for us in describe what coach Mohan has meant to you. You're teammates end the Florida program those data about last year. I mean, we was it was aware we, you know, time the death threats, and just, you know, the threat like, you know, oh coast the threats of an fires. I mean, I wasn't that wasn't nice as a team and just just the where we can general. I me because Molin, bro, you know, news wire to the program brought and do brought excitement, you know. This is new. Refreshing. Run the new system I feel I ought players doing a good job of buying air right now. And that's the difference between last year and this year. Let's talking about what you do. Because you know, we don't talk a lot about blocking techniques on this program because I because I certainly wouldn't know where to start and most of the audience unless they played football would be a little bit confused, but tell us a little bit about how it's changed and what it's like blocking. Especially for a Italians tremendously relate. You know, just different quarterback coaches in our understand fully bay droughts in understand where I got to say how I got gotta say in how that affects the the play and how far can go how far okay, go just depend on sleepy. I mean, just like having a clear understanding now, you know, just pass protection. And also in the run game. I feel like we do a better job with ID's, and you know. Nor will we got to go and how to get there and just understanding the play in general. It sounds fundamental run blocking versus pass protection. But to the the lay person pretty some of it's self explanatory. But take us through your the mindset of an offensive lineman as things change. He's all about this game while he's just because. Yeah, I mean things change pretty quickly up there depending on the signals. So what's it like in the like just give you a rundown an apply, right? When I get down. I gotta get pretty fast. You know, got to read the defense got to figure out what I got in front of me. Also, you got an, you know, you've got to get the call the linebackers, and you gotta understand what's about to happen. You gotta play the game before actually have is. I mean when I get down hardly understand what's going to happen. Just by preparation throughout the league in knowing, you know, knowing the fronts, and knowing that, you know, some key saying those like what they're going to do defense. I mean when I get down this like pro probably got 'bout. I'll know how to say. It's really quick fast tempo. You know, you got to process all this information. You also gotta step. Also, you got to the guy in front of you. So I mean, that's a lot within a little bit of time. It certainly especially important as a tackle to protect the quarterback in what was a famous movie the blind side. But but you understand that part of the game better would talk about that part and that aspect because it's pretty important. You know on the protection of as one on one with the defense. You know, you got a quarterback. They're not looking at you pretend to side and saw if you give up a person if you miss you Simon that all comes back to you and potential you get the quarterback not not the gay you know, 'cause a big play caused a fumble 'cause interception. So I mean like I feel like it's pretty important job. You gotta you gotta be focused got to be lot. Dan. You gotta understand what's going on. And as office line that you can't have any mistakes because if you slip up one time you can play great the whole game. But if you slip up one time, I mean, it's like the world coming down almost there's there's a saying among fans. Of college football because the officiating been a big story lately that that there's holding on every play. I know you've heard it. You're you've been in football longtime is that a fair statement. It's only hold and if they call it. Like that. By the way. Why answer there don't say anything else because there's been a lot of controversy over officiating lately. And I know most of it's been on the on the defensive side. And I am interested in your thoughts on that because targeting both in the NFL and lately in college football has been a big topic of conversation. I realize you're trying to protect the quarterback. But what what do you guys in the trenches? Think about the way games are called. He's he's he's on target in hold in general, primarily we've there's been a big conversation this week about Devon white. What happened? Oh, yeah. And I realized that's. Your job is to try to protect your quarterback. But I mean officiating does play a big role in the game. Does not does. I mean, like, why has really crucially it all office like maybe Robert receiver Casta targeted penalty, you know, about coming trying to make a block trying to free up the runner as I mean that's fifteen yards and also play good addictive. But you know, when I was growing up. I mean, most his we see nowadays. I was it was a clear hit when I was growing up playing football. But also, I mean, they're looking past that part of just like actually just a sign of hit us on by a meal, you try and take players now days, and so like 'cause lesson coaches and called with injuries, you know, lit on their life. So I mean, it's a real rule, and you gotta go gotta go. You know, you gotta do unfortunately not to get into the game plan. But if we could talk about Georgia for just a second of certainly dangerous team, especially in the. Offensive side of the ball. Some thoughts on what you've seen from them. And how the overall coach to this game has been. You know, a good team. Good defense, and they play football physical out front. They do a good job in the back into cover. I mean, it's pretty good defense weekend. We got face good defense. And they see you just got to be prepared for it. Yeah. You got to come out with the mindset you got to dominate. I mean, just that's how you do it every everything's in as good on defense. And that's how I see it and already. I mean, you've already dealt you'll deal with them. You've seen Kentucky you've seen LSU. I'm not asking you to try to compare one to the other. But I now you're right. You've seen some pretty good defenses. I mean, Georgia LSU can take you pretty good defenses. I me as all his limi-. No point in this league point SEC on face the best pass, whereas the best bargains, and you know, some of the best linebacker than the nation in this league. So you just gotta you gotta have you mop appear for he got understand you assigned this, and that's how I do it. I don't try to think too much about it. So in the end, you mentioned assignments, I mean, it's basically just knowing what you're supposed to do. And then being than being instinctive and react is big. Viggo knowing the game as big as far if you know what you do you can play fast and allows you being position to make the block, you know, knowing like is is a lot. If you know is is more than just, you know, physically going to do it. If you know what you gotta do. You know, how you got a block somebody's it makes the game easier fat, and you know, slower for you Martinez. Thanks for coming on best wishes this weekend the rest of the year. It's pleasure to see if I think if I have great Martinez lineman from the university of Florida, we'll see plenty of him Saturday as we get ready to head the Jacksonville the show Friday from right outside the stadium. We will take a short break final. Couple of minutes. Coming up listening to Paul finebaum shield podcast. Glad you're with us. Let's wrap this show up strong -ly. How about Taylor in Johnson city, Tennessee? Hey, we're doing doing great great to have you on. All right. The first time caller. I'm Don hard LSU fan here in Tennessee. But I want to say something before as my quick question. Which is if you're no fan disagreeing with the Devon white call perfectly fine. I firmly disagree with that. My felt but our goal at fans coaches the player we wanna bring another campaign hit back issue. We wanna beat Bama. And if you're a tainted team it next main one injury does not define your things. And so I just really LSU such a good tradition and such a good fan base. And I hate to be. You know, where this started Taylor though. And I agree totally. I thought it was a bad call. But like everything else you have to just move on. Except would Devon white missing the first, but it started with the the athlete director at LSU Joe Aleve by making a public statement about. I don't know what the purpose of it was. But he said he was going to check with the SEC office. He knows the rules. Was that grandstanding by Joe alita? No. I think he was giving the fans they wanted. Look, I'm pissed but don't you think that was but that just spurred it on and then, you know, Carville come on. I mean, carves just having fun. He he's a he's not this. He doesn't he doesn't swim in these waters. He's a fan. He's no no more than that. Yeah. And it's making us other LSU fan, look bad. You know? 'cause like I said we have a great tradition at LSU. Oh, we're known for the atmosphere and the band there. There may be no there may be no better atmosphere than LSU. Yes there. Well, we'll call. I'll onto my question as I look at LSU this year, you know, sitting at seven and one realistically I'd love to see if beat Bama probably not going to happen. I think we can finish off season apologized to you because we are out of time. We will try to answer that tomorrow. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at Easter.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by Capital, One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees, or minimums, that can be opened in five minutes, Capital, One. What's in your wallet Capital, One NA member? FDIC. But fried passion than pageantry of college football leaves here, the, the Paul finebaum show, our four podcast. What are back? We are in the final hour. He had the SEC spring meetings, Edgar Thomson and Glenn. Go to outstanding writers, one covers LSU the other in Florida will join us here in a couple of minutes to review the week and what they have learned looking forward to that. Let's Craig is from college going here. And Kevin starts us off final hour. Hello. Kevin. Hello, paul. How you doing? We are doing well, thank you, Kevin. I wanna talk about the Georgia Florida being down here in Jacksonville pure, I'm I'm actually from bridge, so Kirby. I love him and he's right about it's great for us outdoor folks. But do you realize the largest Georgia BULLDOGS club in America, the most active since nineteen forty six in Jackson's their Jacksonville? Yeah. No, I heard that vaguely remember hearing that, and I want you to explain the audience because I can't why why it's so important to Georgia fans and play that game down there. I it's just the atmosphere didn't grabbing I mean, I, I can leave Austin I'm there in an hour and a half if I want to do just a day trip. I mean, I've actually click going to Athens as much because of the, the moon start Nate can't get a proper tailgate. I mean they opened up RV city for week you've got folks that plan, their vacation and week of the year, one thing about it, by the way, you know, CBS announced that four or five games this year that they could announce. And that's always the game. It's always at three thirty. You know what, you know what time the game starts you don't have to sit around and worry, it's going to be a night game or stupid twelve o'clock or eleven o'clock game. So that's a fair point. And I lot of people don't realize how close. So some parts of Georgia are to Jacksonville and I think that's a good geographical lesson. They're absolutely. And as Larry Munson said they destroy the property. I'm Saint Simon's island. You know, it's always going to be. Yeah. It's just it's just unbelievable. I'm glad thanks for the call. And, and that's a really good point. I mean it's just not going to football game. You're you're, it's an event that we I don't stay I've stayed on those islands before, but even at the hotel that we're, we're, we're headquartered, which is pretty close to the stadium down there on the riverfront. I mean it's a. It's a. It's, it's an incredible party. I mean they're one hundred thousand people in the streets. Thanks for the call. Do appreciate it. Tom is up next. Tom go right ahead. Yeah. Oh, hey, how are you? It must follow and wash. I'm eighty two. Of course, I'm not too good ale and on that don't matter. How there thank you? I'm thinking co-stars. I hope he do not I started listening, raised back. To I don't think we want to games. But how started I'll tell one hundred so we, we have football yet got picking chop them split turn back. But I want to say that it was out about gonna play Arkansas. Call six two and I was left techniques as on the doctors I to dock itself. I said, anyway, you leave at pricks favorite scene. His I would already out after that. But I got so bad, that when all close anyone come out of house, but that's how much love Razorbacks. I know I've been down always year with, with a house out, still with them still level. The one thing that I got used to, we've run laps the Jim as historian, thank you. And we had a coast of respite lady, he radio and then call a ho on stunned us coach twenty he should. They're calling a ho whose call he's your Star Wars that. Anyway, that's, that's got me right there and all all folks, go friend. But I have thank you for taking my call. We talk weather, but I just wish pass. And I, I, I wish you better health and look forward to talking to you again. Thank you fell. Thank you very much. A really good to hear from you. Let's check out Jason in Pennsylvania. Hello, jason. They all good afternoon. Hey, a one of the talk and see your thoughts on, you know, at the SEC decides to expand in the future. What kind of teams do you think they, they would go after you think they would go after other Florida schools or maybe hit go after like Virginia Tech? I didn't ask the Commissioner that question today because I've asked him that question, probably continually for years. And he has the same answer and I'll give you the answer. They're not interested in expansion. I don't think the SEC will independently expand, I think the reason or the only reason it would happen is if you see a major. Upheaval in college athletics. Meaning. League of like the Pac twelve and the Petrov is the weakest of the power five suddenly look for, for partners. They almost did this in two thousand and ten there was a merger drawn up between the, the big twelve in the pack twelve Texas AM the bigger schools and it, it it blew up at the last moment, and you ended up seeing some movement with TCU and, and West Virginia schools like that. But I think the SEC is still digesting, quite frankly, Missouri and am. And as a result of that, they're not looking, and, you know, a school, I Virginia Tech, it's, it's I think it's a good fit. But it is hard. Once you're in a conference, it's hard to get out Maryland. I think paid a tour terrific price to have to disengage from the ACC, and especially now that the ACC has its own network. I think it will be more difficult. I don't I'm not saying they even want to get out West Virginia was school. You heard a lot about in the past the SEC. I don't think was particularly interested. I don't think UCF or USF are good candidates, even though they're, they're big schools that they bring a lot to the table. They don't bring they don't bring much of the table television wise, and that's really where we're league expansion goes, why did Missouri? And why today an joined the ACC the SEC because the SEC was trying to form this network, which will be five years old in two months, and they needed footprint meeting. They needed to go into places. They had never been before and Missouri, and Texas are very big states. Right. That that's kind of why I asked about the Virginia Tech not like you mentioned about the Pac twelve deal. That crumbled, you know, one of their a little bit of rumblings about maybe Oklahoma, even Texas hopping into the west. Yes, I will say this and I, I don't think it's operative any longer. But if you go back three years, I will say for a fact that Oklahoma. Put some feelers out. About the SEC, there was a movement there, there, there, there were people in very high positions at Oklahoma that, that had a great deal of interest in the SEC. I think there was some interest to, but it was it was it was you can't just take one you have to take to, to make it work Texas is never going to be a fit for the SEC because Texas number one has its own television network, which pays them ever Dickey's amount of money, especially for network that I don't think ever made the dime and. It was a great deal by Texas. It wasn't a good deal by the people that, that made the tail with them, which are people that I work for, and but, but I at Oklahoma state that wouldn't help either, so you, you would have to if let's say, theoretically, Oklahoma came into the sea, you would need someone. I think from the other the other part of the country. Right. Just want to get your thoughts on that. You know, big your call. Thank you. I, I will say I thank you for the call. I think it is possible down the road. I think you could see like a big bang explosion in, in, in not in the solar system. But in the universe of the world of the universe, something like that. But I think the Pac twelve is a very weak conference right now. They have a terrible television deal there, there's a there's an assault on the leadership, so I would keep is on that, we're up against the break. One of my favorite segments. When we come down here are talking to my friends in the in the media, and they're in the writing business. Glenn Guilbeault covers LSU and Edgar Thomson covers Florida for the Orlando Sentinel. They will join us right here. We'll get some real talk after this to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back, going Guilbeault joining us covers the Tigers and Edgar Thomson very popular university of Florida the reporter for their. Atlanta's four we get air your. I was. I'm not trying to isolate you here but we had you on a couple of weeks ago. We talked about the Dan Mullen situation. I understand your life has been turned upside down as a result. I don't have it upside down. But there is some backlash born offense or passionate. That's what makes the job on a lot of the times in a little, you know testing at others, but, you know, they definitely they let you know, when you with you what you've never been criticizing. What, what did Florida fan? What have they found objectionable to what you have said and written? They feel I'm hard on Dan Mullen. I mean some questions need to be asked especially when they're tough times, like there were a few weeks ago Dan, and I get along great, you we were talking today on, I think they didn't like the fact that I characterize their approach to Georgia is maybe being a little shortsighted because it kind of, you know. Blew up in their face a little, I guess, when things don't go well, we'll see in the Gators seem to be closing that gap a little bit and they can win on the football field. All will be forgotten. In Glen, I had a caller earlier from the tiger fans. You know, you guys are all wrong about we'll wait. Get your Tober get over it. He's the coach. You got you guys. Take your ball and go home. Is it over? Well, I think the first stage is over, he's going to survive. He's going to be the coach for for this season. He's, he's, he's got a good team coming back. But I mean if you follow the time line of say Arizona, you know. They could get that letter. And that NCA investigation about a year from now, or maybe soon after so in the long run, I don't I wouldn't say it's over there's a lot there for the NCAA investigate. But, you know, NCAA's flow way can make a lot of money between now. And when they do investigate it, or if they find level, one level, two investigation reasons and editor Greg. Thank you, very, very aggressive up. I'll say thank God. I cover my quite Yup. No. He's great guaranteeing. We've got a great guy, you know, he's, he's doing doing anything giving me writing about on the negative side. And I was just wondering Commissioner Greg Sankey initiatives to improve the basketball, and it has we've seen eight seven sure teams in the league. But the way controversy of others. Auburn has had some issues does it does it take away at all from the success on the court. Yeah. I sure I mean it's it's a black eye for the game. We'll wait even still being there is kind of shocking to me, a little that I'm wondering what other AD's, if they were speak cantilevered, but their decision making process on that would've been me. Emme brought a negative spotlight on the league. I mean you had Auburn involved in it, too, but they're not the only schools gets fans Arizona and others. And I covered a lot of college basketball back years ago for twenty some years. I mean pretty pretty scandal is time for the sport. So good NCAA tournament and that kinda helped a bit. But I mean fans move on though we know that they move on quickly and, and we'll wait is Glen when it out. I mean, this could drag onto a what I think will hurt was saying, twenty twenty two then it will be. I mean fans would have forgotten this players. Nobody nobody even happened. Well unless they get promoted. All right. Thank you, even said, just one. It's something what some closure on this sooner than later because he wants he doesn't want this thing drag on for years. Do fans, you both cover very passionate fan but programs that have very passionate fan bases. Do they really care about all this extreme? I think they do. I don't think fans really care about probation or any any of that. I, I really don't think they do. I mean, there's been so wanting to defend we'll wait for everything. And I think the, the motivation to win while cheating is much better than just continuing to lose. You know, LSU lost for a long time and basketball before the season. Immense true. I mean Johnny Jones cover enough of his games. They're happy to have. We'll wait after that good. Johnny coach. Johnny Jones had good players. I mean, they'd come into the dome, and I saw him in this CC term, like how can this guy lose by twenty five the Gators at this team? LSU is a history of losing with great players. I mean, they've had somebody icon of players in history. It is true kill O'Neill won two NCAA tournament Kim's in favor Yonkers Chris Jackson had had early round loss. I think I think he may have one NCAA tournament game Pete mayor of which did little damage in the NFL T one year. But you know, they haven't haven't had a lot of players go that far, but they have done final four four four four times. So back to the fans and. I, I don't cover teams anymore. I I once did. And it was difficult when I started and it seems like it's more difficult today. You guys are at the very top shelf of, of, of being objective and putting opinions in your column or getting the facts in. But I, I wonder with so many not asking you to paint a broad brush about the other industry, rest of the instrument with somebody fan, based sites, and it, it just doesn't seem like there's much demand for objectively. Yeah. Outlaw almost and you know, a lot of what we right goes on, on Facebook and those are fan sites. I, I got kicked off when I'm in the middle of the we'll wait thing. And but, but, you know, the, the people you hear from on, on Facebook, so many of them are just just fans. Like you don't have people writing letters to the editor that takes some effort and time you don't you don't see any more quick, when we started, you know, it was like a big deal to get a couple of negative letters to call. Hey, somebody. I mean somebody cared now. Do you. How do you not Edgar? Let what somebody says or one hundred thousand people say, on Twitter affect how you approach your job to me Euch button. I mean you have to you just gotta tune it out. I try to be fair and give an honest, viewpoint. I think I'm balanced, and I think we're at a lucky time covering the gate or some in the media core were there. I mean Scott Strickland's a straight shooter. I mean, he, he doesn't, you know, sugar coat things, and he doesn't, like not answer questions. Dan, Mullins great. I mean Dan Mullen will take a question and run with it and Mike white. I mean you couldn't deal with a nicer more honest guy. So we are lucky me. I feel like you report what they say. I don't know why people get upset about it. But there are questions need to be asked, though, in the team's not winning or things happen off the field that reflect poorly on the program or you know, just general issues in the college sporting industry. I mean, there are always issues now mean there's always something going on. It isn't positive, and you do need to ask about it, but there's plenty of positive going onto, and we write about that a lot. It's funny because you could write like literally, a pile articles that big and then one Paul. Big and may see that big. They see out respect the pump. You guys are both on on social. Do you respond to your critics? I do. I'll I'll, I'll, I'll answer questions or if they make a comment, but one thing, I do usually the meanest and and worst comments on Twitter, for example. Always check the followers and his like six or seven. But if somebody has a lot of followers, and they have a decent thing to say, they're not just a hate monger. I'll, I'll answer them. You know, try not to ignore, but I definitely ignore the idiots. I would love to have the constructive criticism. I mean. My article sometimes maybe a factor or something in field. Do something. Oh, did I take that out of context, you didn't think that was fair? Or hey, asked this question that coach? I didn't like what I mean. Constructive, criticisms fine. It's just when people start flaming. You and I've probably brought some of them myself at times. I guess I mean maybe you go on and and say something maybe that's a little out of bounds. I guess how personal does it. I don't feel that I do personal. Oh, yeah. Yeah, my wife's been upset about some things on Facebook or Twitter here and there, but, you know, it's, it's, it's part of it, it's, it's part of sports, but, but nowadays, the fans, they just have so many more outlets Facebook, Twitter and they can they can get their voice heard more. But, you know and, and pick on them sometimes which is fun. But you know I try to I try to listen to him at times. Listen in full disclosure. We keep up with social media of at all times on the show, because we, we share it with the audience and I, I learned things you can say something now bear Bryant won five national championships, and somebody would be one six those. That's good because you want to be accurate. But, but, but yeah, I mean on the personal level I worry about the industry because everyone doesn't have the, the backbone intestinal fortitude as you guys because you've seen a lot in your career. What do you need to have a thick skin because if you're going to criticize coaches and say coach should be fired or or whatever your involvement on Seattle right com? Yeah. You need to be able to take criticism if you're going to do that. And I would never go out and do that man might point out some positives negatives. And then in the case is pretty clear. But I'm never gonna call people's jobs and stuff. My job is not to give massive opinions. I mean my editor, wouldn't want that, and it's really not what I'm paid to do. But it reflects the passion of the fan base. I mean, we said it never given. Curley home either. The way I talk really home in about two months ago in Florence Alabama. He's alive and well, nice guy. Nice guy. What I was saying that the passionate fan base is, what makes the SEC so great. Sometimes it's misplaced I can handle it. And it's but you can I I mean I don't know if you can choose. I mean, it's an easy lines. I cover the news. But there are a lot of people that would take exception to the, to the aggressiveness of, of what maybe you or others have done in your in your space. Yeah. I think that's what they did take exception to that, that you do push for an answer. And not just kind of glossing over of something. But how many positive stores, the right saying any more? Posits just cover the softball tournament last week, the super regional it was great. Those girls are terrific out leads who great representatives university real Artem athletes, their good students. They're really fun to be around, there clever engaging and they're appreciative of the coverage, and that's fun to do. I enjoy those assignments as much as anything and it isn't just all about football. I mean it isn't just about that. You know, these college sports programs are vast mean Scott stricklin pointing that out today because he was coming to, you know, the name and likeness stuff in payment that might go to certain players and he's like, look. I mean a transcendent player like Tim Tibo can command. That is one thing, but to take away from these Olympic sports and do all that, it would be wrong because you're taking opportunities from, like, really the vast student athlete population. And I do like to deal with all those other athletes to hold the phone. I wanna come back and look ahead. We, we haven't really talked about what we normally talk about that's the upcoming college football season. Yeah. And you guys have put us on trial are Jackie are going to talk about the hurricane Matthew games. Well, what we may get to that. Floridian LSU do have a reputation. We'll be back. We're thirty minutes. Thirty minutes left to go. I'm getting heat stroke, myself here with with Edgar and Glenn mortar com right after this. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. As we walked suburban garden, gnome Catholic Catholic without stubbing it. He noticed that. It moves like not at all. It's inanimate and utterly without brain function. But despite that, when it got known his about how gyco not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because yes switching to Geico is a no brainer on second thought maybe don't garden gnomes to carefully people might talk quarterback where you live here at the beach, my good friends Edgar Thomson from the Orlando Santo gun Guilbeault joining us. And let's talk about the state of this league. Sabin loses by twenty you're covered saving LSU you cover them now from a little more of a distance people want to create this Kirby versus saving battle, we, we tried it with less miles didn't work. Worked at I worked or not, and was not. He was going for third straight over saving. I think less is one of the few coaches that has three wins over saving and. Is it real? I mean, you, you read much into saving losing that championship game by twenty eight and looking vulnerable happening to actually have surgery on something late bounce back from that hip surgery, pretty quick. I was surprised in the national championship game. He didn't seem. On it now in that in that game. But, you know that plays right into his plans, I many. He bounces back from loss. It's a win. Adversity doesn't, yeah. Yeah. He does not forget him complaining about being in the national championship game took time away from recruiting imagine. But I'm sure he'll be back. I mean he's so consistent. You know, but. Georgia got close to beating them. You know, they need someone to Desi needs. Someone other now Bama to be power, because just from viewership. It gets kind of old but you guys cover. Great. I mean, you, you, you could argue all day about Florida and LSU fan bases. I mean they're at the top of the food chain. But I'm interested. What's it? Like I mean even in a place like Florida who? Still think it's on that level in some respects and was really of LSU in Florida have been the biggest competitors to the, the saving era of I mean, is this a favor? In Alabama, talk at old hearing it over and over again, like grew with Klein it kind of take some of the drama, what was the what was the average score with this? Alabama, as he C opponents. I forget what it was. But it was like starts fan. It was like forty something to twenty scored on them and to of the last so they can get kind of boring. I mean I covered to title games with the Gators they had no chance with Jim mcelwain. I mean they they played them kind of tough for a while. But, you know, the floodgates we're gonna open, so yeah, it can get old. I mean, I am I have something for him coming up potential, should've brought Clemson and instead of Missouri. We'll definitely more southern. Treasurer. Sure. I mean, do you think JIMBO can do something, an potentially? I heard somebody. I mean, everyone wants to find the guy somebody's going to do it, eventually just won't go on. Maybe the guy from jeopardy we'll go on longer than savings, run better. But I mean I it in speaking of JIMBO have to ask this, I realize you cover the Gators, but. Does he get a pass for the Florida state program cratering out in his final days and the aftermath of, of his departure, he gave himself one today? Did you say? If things fine. But it'd be a big ball game. Next year was what he said. Right. Which people are like, okay. Well, we'll see about that. I mean, the Willie Taggart higher. We'll find out how that really works out year. One it was pretty much the disaster. But obviously, JIMBO didn't leave the covered very stop. Well-stocked nail -fensive line was atrocious, everyone overran it. I mean, the Gators boom off their home field at the end of the season, and that was a team just point out the string at that point. So, yeah. Jimbo he does deserve some of these received some of blame in this part of the country but he's not really taking any of his shoulders. But meanwhile he's ever insect Sam landing. What was it third top class last year? And putting together another great one for this coming year anyway. I mean, listen, I don't know all the facts. But does anyone anything that they've done wrong? Today's in college athletics. I mean this mart answers I. Well, I probably could have done a better job, whatever but no, not my fault. Yeah. You know you don't get that a lot. I mean I do remember saving in his first SEC media days after he came back to Alabama from Miami. He did say he probably handle that dolphins egg roll, and I said Nick wasn't a huge but he did kind of admit it. But, you know, you don't see that, that too much, but, yeah, that was kind of amazing how things went south quick at Florida state because he had just won the national championship. Thirteen people miss that, that gave Clemson the, the entree to what they're doing today. They really don't have anybody to worry, but that, that was be game of the year in the ACC and one of the games of the year in college football until recently. Yeah. No, it's and it's really not just good for four to football overall. I mean really look at the big three, I mean Florida is at the top of that I'm sure for fans liked that. But wasn't it better? When there were three really great programs like in the nineties. I mean that was I was some high level competition. I mean that that was a high point and. College football world, instead of Florida. I think from a fan perspective or from a football fan, not to say fan of one team perspective. And that's what you want, again mean that's a ways off me. Manny diaz. How long's that gonna take it seems as recruiting well, Taggart is he going survive there? I think the Gators got it right at least with Dan Mullen, and they should feel good about that. Because I, I don't think that a lot of people were that was who their main target was all this fan base defending, Dan. Now on some of them probably wanted them. We'll the third choice. I don't know technically what he was. But, you know that Scott frost, and chip Kelly were definitely on the radar and they did fly to New Hampshire to talk to chip Kelly. So, right. So whether he was third or not. Or whether whether we're Dan was being wooed by Tennessee. He was. And Scott stricklin also says, hey I didn't want to get him out a and still the coach that we help tire him and Greg Byrne he was under very Martin at the time when they hired Dan and. We'll have to go through the heaven. Day one. I thought, Dan made the most sense he was safest me to a question for you. You've opened the door. We'll we'll. The Woodward to LSU created this wave of JIMBO following him and. Expound on that place. What is that? Any can you imagine? Could you imagine that happened? Scott Woodward coming to LSU. No Scott, bringing JIMBO. Oh, if things didn't work out with that. Oh. You know, I'm sure if things didn't work out because it's doing really well, right? You know, coming off a great season. He's recruiting really well, recruiting nationally Utah, DC California. But yeah, I think if some if things suddenly went went south that would be a possibility. I mean Scott Woodward is old friends with, with JIMBO. But I I just think JIMBO is going gonna win at an in the market for another job. I mean he's ten years, seven point five million a year. You know, I think he said he come to three years ago to come to LSU. I think if, if the right person would have been in charge at LSU at as athletic director, like a Scott, Woodward, if he'd have been there at the time, I think that got him that, you know, I look at it to, to two ways, I mean, there was the hiring process, and, and then after and, and on the day coach was hired. I mean he was he was not nearly as qualified as JIMBO Fisher, and they and they should have gone after JIMBO instead of going after Tom Herman because anybody who knew anything new Tom Herman's entire work history. And his wife were leading him to Austin, he was not going to come to LSU Joe Aleve, made a mistake, going to have to hermit. He should have gone after JIMBO. But all three of those guys could end up. Doing very well where they are. Ron Herman and, and I want to let me take quick break. I want to talk about orders Ron because I saw him running to somewhere to man. I, I mean, I, I wouldn't want to stand in his way this he, he was aiming Craig has a lot of guts. He what he did after that game or just stupidity. It was up and down the beach. I was barely walking. We'll take a break. We're wrapping up. Get some, some real football thoughts with, with Edgar in Glen as our last segment comes to us after this break from the beach listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We're back Edgar Thompson from the Orlando sent Edgar Thompson, and gun Gilboa. So let's try to figure out how suddenly a year ago or is Ron was on the hot seat expectations were looking for a terrible season and now top ten program. Yeah. He definitely had an overachiever in season. They were looking at. There was a prediction of sixty six before they got Joe borough to transfer from Ohio State. But even after that it was seven wins eight wins he win. He went to ten games so boroughs coming back. He's got some good quarterbacks coming into the program next year and he hired a pass game coordinator named Joe Brady from the saints and Stevenson winger is still there. So they should be they should be at, you know, right in that ten grains fan. I think what's that look like the same? I don't think so game. But at least he's trying. It's a if you're gonna mirrow program down there. That's a good one. Oh, yeah. Y'all. He's done a little study with the with the same for me. That is the, the offense the study. No question. But you know, I don't Joe Brady wasn't calling plays with with drew Brees in New Orleans. Hopefully he learned something in order to Ron was impressed with a, a Simpson teaching job Brady did at a clinic, he saw curves more, we've by ROY. And he, he expounded on the Georgia. Florida game possibly moving and you keep tipple was all about recruiting how is that playing in the sunshine state? That's a big game an important game. And he's been there since nineteen thirty three other and a couple of years, they are they really going to move that game. I mean it it's, it's part of Jacksonville Lor. Mean is the city you're gonna give that game off? Yes to contracts coming up in twenty twenty one I, I guess you have to start looking at realities on your schedule. I mean, you are losing a home game every year Rb other year. Excuse me, if Ford over suddenly to be playing Georgia at home. I mean their season ticket base might really rise quite considerably. And that's something they're looking for all these schools are looking for revenue streams. But the Florida Georgia game I think they rent the stadium for a dollar. They get a huge crowd of all kinds of parts that game half the tickets, etc. Etc. One thing they do lose recruiting weekend. And but that I asked about that today. And he said, that'd be hard to manage anyway, because you're not at your home place to manage a bunch of recruits with your personnel, and all that, you know, your homes on your home site. So I see where Kirby's coming from Mark Rick thought the same thing. It's a five hour drive from Athens ninety minute drive from Gainesville to gate or gator town. I mean, there's definitely some favorite of the Gators. Live. Everyone likes, Dan. Georgia fans fill Georgia's program is, is really on fire the moment. I mean how where is that gap between the Gators and Wendy you see closing? Dan is a pretty masterful coach. I gotta say would just listen you come at LSU and this assess it had last year. He Shrout coached them in the second half of that game. I'm head Aranda this twisted around in that game. And they won back to back games. The one in Mississippi State. They probably shouldn't have won that one that on a trick play. They had the tight end throwing the ball and tell us you on the biggest play of the game. So he, he, he's really an expert play caller, but it's gonna come down to recruiting man. I mean doesn't it always and Hervey is just killing it. And recruiting he's incredible recruiter. And he's looking for every edge with creating you'd be like, okay Kirby. We get it. I mean can you back off a little bit because he wants to break up this great tradition. That's been going on, you know, well before he was born his parents, probably weren't even born then and but but because it recruiting. And it's like did you already recruiting really well, I mean you really. Need that one other weekend? But Dan, is they have to prove it as recruiters than I mean, I'm not saying he's doing a bad job there. He's doing a pretty solid job for sure. But Georgia's set in a very high bar, there, we only have about a minute left, and I mean, I think almost everyone is predicting Alabama Georgia to cover is if someone other than Alabama Georgia made it to Atlanta who would it be? Either side. Well, if it's not Alabama would I would say, you, you'd have to pick LSU and, and, you know, Alabama has gotten to the playoffs without getting to Atlanta that, that could happen to someone else, you know, LSU people are so focused on the Bama game. I, I say if you win the other games and loose, Alabama you're in, you know, if that's your only loss, and they do play Texas this year. So when that game here to help them, but, you know, it's just you have anybody. Well, the fact that the games out LSU. You gotta give LSU the edge over four two four two still got Georgia to beat and has a good LSU that would probably give the Tigers a slight edge there. You know. Know am I don't know the depth of the roster. Their schedule is just ridiculous. They play at Clemson last year was to add Georgia they may be good enough. But I don't know how they navigate that Alabama Clemson, Georgia. I mean Florida's Ford is going to be pretty good. I think they're good this year but that offensive line is what you gotta watch that offensive line's young. And he's developed, we'll guys I really pretty. This is fun. We'll do this hopefully many media days in Hoover, breaking sunscreen next time. Yeah, I won't wear sunglasses on the set. But I couldn't even see out here, maybe to wear them when you get back or back to Florida over fins. You said. I think we've had a blast here in Destin. Thanks for being a part of the show. Thank you for listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. 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