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MMA Roasted
"jocelyn" Discussed on MMA Roasted
"Then, yeah, watch me on the I'm on the free fight prelims for bare knuckle this Saturday. I believe I'm sign number two or three, so I appreciate the sport. Adam you rock is always important to see you again. You too. No, what are you going to walk out to? I'm going to walk out to corilla killing it. Carilla killing it? Who's it by? Carla. Oh, carilla. Oh, I thought that was. Yeah, the two girls, the DJ. You know that? I'm not cool. Do you know what he's talking about? No, I'm a boomer. I'm 43. He's 87. Listen, Jocelyn, thank you so much. Good luck. I'm going to be rooting for you. Can I order a shirt from yours on thing? Or is there a shirt I could buy? Yeah, the link to my on my Instagram and all proceeds are going to no kid hungry here in Arizona. So I signed on with 8 man, so we've sold quite a few shirts. I'm super excited about that. Yeah. I appreciate you. Thank you. Is there a fighter name? No kid hungry. No kid hungry. I don't have a fighter name, but no kid hungry is just the feed kids here in Arizona. Yeah, it's not a fucking Jonathan take care. Bye bye. All right, we'll talk soon. All right. She's so sweet. She seems very sweet. It's such a different level of competition and drive for these people. I just don't have. Well, you gotta do a horror film. Where does this horror film be doing? Oh, it's called what the fuck is they called? Jesus, correct. I was called the Woods witch. And what are you doing? Well, the Woods witch. I play like I play like a cult leader. In the Woods. You ever see the show, the movie midsummer? No. But that doesn't matter. Okay, no, no, you're here. So, all right, so is anybody big? Damn it, you froze. I could hear you. You're okay. You're not frozen. All right. Yeah. Is anybody any big actors in the movie? No, you're good. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I play like a cult leader. Midsummer? But no, I haven't seen it. You got it. Smoke some weed, maybe just mushrooms, watch midsummer. It's incredible. But it's basically just like Blair witch meets that. It's like a cult in the Woods. And we kill people for whatever reasons. So people do it. And yeah, so I get to play like a weird burnt out kind of old boomer cult leader. I love anybody big in the movie. Anybody I've seen? You know, you know who's one of the producers on is do you know Laura Francesca? She's like she's I don't know. She comes a lot of comedy shows. She's like a YouTube person. But I can't do video. He was the fat guy and Borat next. He's in it? He's in it. Tom sizemore is no way, really? Yeah. Tom sizable. He's been some of my favorite movies ever. Yeah. Razor dogs, right? Fuck it right. Also, he was in, wasn't he in Pulp Fiction? Or was size more? Yeah, yeah, the size mar is a fucking monster. He was a bunch of characters. But yeah, so and then there's a bunch of younger people that are kind of like YouTube social media influencer type stuff. So it's probably gonna fucking suck to be honest. But. It can't act if they're like 22. It would know. I'm like to get the actor who's like get off my fucking old actor my stage kids. Anyway, but it'll be fun. It'll be. Well, all right. Where are you gonna be this week? This week, I'm back in Austin doing shows at the Vulcan theater in Austin and yeah. That's it. Have you had to meet Joe? You've never met him? One of the first times everything you did to class at legends and old on la brea. I rolled with him because they were just moving people around and he just treated me like a rag doll. But that wouldn't I was brand new. I was a white belt. I've never met him now. Yeah, we're friendly. You know, when I see him, it's like, you know, it's a big deal. But he's just so busy and I don't ever want to feel like I want something from him, you know? Of course. Yeah, because everyone does. Yeah, so like I never asked to be. I was on his podcast like ten years ago, but I've never asked to come back on. Never asked to open for him. I would love to open for him. I'd love to go watch it. I just don't want to be that fucking guy. He was like, hey Joe, if you ever do an open air 'cause I'm just gonna guess that all fucking day. But anyway, you're the best. I will talk to you soon. Have a great week. Thank you. Take care of me..
MMA Roasted
"jocelyn" Discussed on MMA Roasted
"One of the best fighters in the world, a guy who had we were up for what the award for fighter of the year or new cover of the year? Yeah, you should have won, too. That was ridiculous. Now, I know you the last time you had like 9 fights in 6 hours. You kept fighting. Every week you had a fight. And now you had the wife, okay, can you hear me? No, I turned to my father. You good now? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're good. Okay, okay. So the last time you had like 9 fights in like 6, you kept fighting every week, you gotta fight. But now it's been like 6 months for 5 months. How are you holding up? There's nothing new to me. I've faced injuries. I had to sit down for 6 months before. So it's just, it's all about being patient, man. 'cause I know the science gonna come. So I'm just keeping my mentor right and just making sure I'm peeking at the right time. Good. Now does someone have covered in your camp or something? Is that what happened also? Yeah, one of my corners got COVID. I tested negative, so I was pretty upset about that. But they didn't let you fight 'cause your corner are COVID. Yeah. Oh man, that's crazy. 'cause you did all the work. Everyone has to get paid. Was it like your main guy or was it your friend or who was it? Yeah, your homie had COVID. Oh man. Was it a really important corner or just some guy you tag along? It was just one of my homies to have tagalong. He talks right now. He's up and coming. You guys just see him in the UFC soon. Okay. Yeah, good. I'm sure he tell Tara. I'm sure he felt terrible. Yeah, I know he did. So, you know, I'll leave it at that level at the end of the day. By the way, there's a picture of you with Michael chiesa. When he went to your wrestling camp, are you with to his wrestling camp? And you look like you were like 9 years old. And at hila kind of normal too. And you guys were like hugging. It was the sweetest cutest picture. You forget how young you guys are. Was he already in the UFC back there? Yeah, he just got done with document by the show. Slow or going to a one or two. Actually, no, that was my senior year. Yeah, he was done with talking about the show. I was 18 in that picture, actually. You look like you were 11. Now, were you were you dominating kids at the wrestling camp? Did he know that he looked at you and say, dude, you're going to be the guy? He always told me I can do whatever I put my mind to. And originally, I was going to move in when I'm at the high school, but my mom wanted me to wrestling college, so I had to go through that for. Right, right, right. Now, now your mom's been through it, man, because you were like a national champion. You were ranked. You were the, you were a state champion too, right? Yeah, two times day champion. Two times day champion. And then we all know what happened when you got a high on mushrooms. It got tased by the cops, you were an LSD. Got arrested. And now here you are killing it. Has your mom been behind you the whole time? See, I always been a supporter, but there's times where she had to let me go, so that I can learn and make mistakes and learn how to bounce back from. Because at the end of the day, I had to realize that she was enabled me and she couldn't expect me to grow if she's doing that. And I had to figure it out on my own. So you would pick mama's boy? Yeah. Oh man. Now when she says let you go, what does that mean? You don't get presents for Christmas or like what does that mean? Well, it's just like she's not just trying to give me like the easy way out, you know, like the quickest game where I can call him mom, I'll be fine. She wanted those things. Got it. I got it. No fun, no nothing. You gotta have the following. That's a good mom. And that's really hard. Especially somebody, seems like I don't know if this is racist, but black women seem very close to their sons. They are, man, they are, man. It's 'cause they put their fear in us, rather. Is that the fear and I can see it being hard and they're like, oh, that hard to let go. That's my baby kind of thing, you know. And was your dad around? No, no. I never knew my bit. Wow, never knew your dad, ever. So even now, after you're so successful, has he tried to reach out to you? No. Wow. You don't know where he's on Facebook, nothing. I know that my dad was pretty big in the gang like, so that's pretty much enjoy a lot. So much about me. Wow, wow, man. That's tough, man. That shows how far you've come, because a lot of people would have used that as an excuse to themselves get into the gang live for fuck their own lives up and that's really cool that you that you have ended up not using that as a crutch because it's very easy to do. Just blame someone else. And rightfully so, in some regards now, let's talk about the fights last week and got over versus gone. Where did you think of that fight? Or in this hill, but I'm happy with Francis evolution in his growth in the fight game. That shit was born as hell brother. Yeah. Now, but when he said he had a torn MCL and fucked up AC, I don't know if you have ever torn your ACL, I did. It is hard to pivot on it. You can't pivot on that. You could really fuck up your leg. This is like if you're talking about the kind of power he is. So you probably was throwing it like 50% or a 60%. Because he could hear easily could have fucked up his leg. I mean, do you think he should have pulled out before that fight? If his legs all fucked up, he could have if he wanted to, but look at sensory my guy had 2018. One Nancy dovey. So when I hear those kind of things now, like, come on, I'll be doing crazy stuff like this, you know? Yeah, but come on. How many people will be fucked up if everyone looks at Spencer Lee as the way to go? I mean, people just be, you know, bunch of Bambi's around, you know, a newborn deer, the following everywhere. You got to be, come on, but you got to be a dog in his sport. You gotta you gotta be willing to take the risk and same goes for anyone who's trying to accomplish a goal or a dream. He knew what he had to do and I'm very proud of him and I'm happy he fighting for his own words. And I think he does deserve an anxiety. I think everyone should respect and commend him because it's not like he came from being the brightest person, but for him to just to see that and know his words. I'm very proud of him. We're not ever set. I think that fighters appear as much as they possibly can. And I hate seeing guys, you know, not making the money they can. But people are using the boxing model and I'm like, that's not the model you want to use. Because let's say we use the boxing model, right? I mean, boxing, they say boxing is dead for a reason because you only know three guys. So if you look at the box about, you got to get rid of that means everyone's a free agent. You have to get rid of the UFC Bellator PFL. Everyone's going to be like, whoever gets the highest bidder. And then there's going to be Conor McGregor's going to make a ton of money. Jon Jones, but then all the other guys that are like the mid tier guys or lower guys are just going to be totally fine. But.
Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
"jocelyn" Discussed on Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
"One of the things that i know you love to talk about in addition to trauma right so one of the ways that we can prevent or at least set of the best situation possible for this to not happen again. And we're this is more of those microaggressions right like you can never really prevent like massive event from happening. But so you had recently posted on instagram quote. We tell people how to treat us by the boundaries that we set and we thought that was so fantastic to talk about so. Can you elaborate on what you meant by that post and what it means to have healthy boundaries. Yes so i am a big fan of boundaries and boundaries are about protecting ourselves so they're not about controlling changing or trying to control anyone on their side of the street. it is really about keeping our side of the street clean and making sure. Our interactions with others are away. That support us. So when. I'm when i'm setting these boundaries. What i'm saying is distance how i if i'm going to be in relationship with you. This is to be treated about andres. Then i need to set some limits. Because i'm not okay treated that way and so we don't have boundaries what happens is we allow whatever anyone says or does to get in our space and impact us. So if i don't have boundaries. I may let someone scream and yell at me. I may let someone go through my stuff without asking. I may allow those microaggressions to occur and not address them. Be the message. That i'm sending what i'm doing is that it's okay versus if i set those boundaries. Then what i'm saying is i will not be yell that and if it continues i'm gonna step outside of the room. I'm going to hang up the phone. So i'm telling them hey. I'm not going to be treated that way now. I can't control whether they continue it or not. But i can't control my behavior and whether i continue to allow it so i may step out of the room like i. I may choose to end the relationship. I may choose to set some more guideposts to protect myself.
Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
Boundary Setting for Self-Care With Licensed Professional Counselor Jocelyn Hamsher
"One of the things that i know you love to talk about in addition to trauma right so one of the ways that we can prevent or at least set of the best situation possible for this to not happen again. And we're this is more of those microaggressions right like you can never really prevent like massive event from happening. But so you had recently posted on instagram quote. We tell people how to treat us by the boundaries that we set and we thought that was so fantastic to talk about so. Can you elaborate on what you meant by that post and what it means to have healthy boundaries. Yes so i am a big fan of boundaries and boundaries are about protecting ourselves so they're not about controlling changing or trying to control anyone on their side of the street. it is really about keeping our side of the street clean and making sure. Our interactions with others are away. That support us. So when. I'm when i'm setting these boundaries. What i'm saying is distance how i if i'm going to be in relationship with you. This is to be treated about andres. Then i need to set some limits. Because i'm not okay treated that way and so we don't have boundaries what happens is we allow whatever anyone says or does to get in our space and impact us. So if i don't have boundaries. I may let someone scream and yell at me. I may let someone go through my stuff without asking. I may allow those microaggressions to occur and not address them. Be the message. That i'm sending what i'm doing is that it's okay versus if i set those boundaries. Then what i'm saying is i will not be yell that and if it continues i'm gonna step outside of the room. I'm going to hang up the phone. So i'm telling them hey. I'm not going to be treated that way now. I can't control whether they continue it or not. But i can't control my behavior and whether i continue to allow it so i may step out of the room like i. I may choose to end the relationship. I may choose to set some more guideposts to protect myself.
Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
"jocelyn" Discussed on Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
"I woke up this morning thinking about this knowing that we will be going there tonight because we're recording this other friday. Yeah i gotta say. I'm not that far away. I think i need to come down. You should come down and we will go. It is so good. I have gotten three different dishes there one. I only got one time. And i was like no. It's not as good as chicken. Not getting that the other two that alternate between are the bubble so the rice noodle soup bowl with the chicken or i get a rice bowl with the again. That's it because it's so good to get that chicken You're making me create fried chicken. And i think i might. Casey makes a mean fried chicken. And i might say. Make me okay before this long. Let me give you a recommendation so I have talked about this cookbook recommendation with probably every single one of my clients It is for cassie joy garcia who is fed and fit on instagram. She has cookbook called cook once. Eat all week which is really great for a non diet. Non restrictive way to get back into really easy meal planning and preparing throughout the week. And she just had the kind of sequel or follow up to that cookbook. Come out called cook. Wants dinner fix which is basically where you make all the ingredients for one meal and then some of those ingredients you save and you transform those into a completely different meal the next night or whenever you are making the second recipe So that comes out on september fifteenth. I believe which is actually dated. This code comes out. So that is bertrand so i haven't actually cooked anything from the book yet but i was flipping through it because i just got it yesterday. 'cause i got an advanced copy. Thank you for sending that to be but yeah highly. Recommend her food is always really good. I would follow her on instagram. She makes them using food. Her kids and dogs are really cute. And she's not like diet in your face kinda thing. I remember her first book coming out and you bring you brought it to for junior. I was down there code it to me and it looked awesome. Yeah was looney. This in every single owner clients needs this. Well there. you go so yet today. We're talking about boundaries saying yes health care joslin and we get it. It can be hard to do them and to execute it but you know if we can do it you can try you at least try you know and then if it doesn't work then that's just not a tool. That was the right tool for your toolbox right totally. There's another tool. yes okay kim. We will get into the episode with jocelyn.
Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
"jocelyn" Discussed on Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
"Welcome back to another episode of the whole hearted eating podcast. I'm dana and christina is here and today we're gonna be talking about boundary setting for self care so a very important topic in light of the whole world events but also it's really thing to think about for the fall as we are accumulating a lot of new things on our plates and some kind sometimes that can feel like a lot most of the time. It feels like a lot. So we wanted to give you all some suggestions with our amazing guest jocelyn hampshire for how to set those boundaries. And like she says not be about it so she's talking about today are boundary setting as a way to protect our mental health boundary setting around body image indicting conversations. The analogy that. I really loved that she talks about is boundary. Setting is taking care of your side of the street versus an ultimatum which is really trying to control someone else's side of the street so before we jump into the interview with jocelyn we wanted to Talk about our recommendations for the weekend. Tell you a little bit about What's been going on. And how we've been implementing joscelyn's boundary setting recommendations in our own lives. But i think for me around this to that. I find to be kinda frustrating. Is that a lot of times we think of south carolina's as of commercialized healthcare. And i really love how jocelyn talks about the real nitty gritty self karen around boundaries. And how important is And i have to say it's hard to implement if you're not used to implementing it and especially when you feel like you're going to let someone else down like that's definitely something that's hard for me to set boundaries especially if you are a people pleaser type person. I am lepers. And i've been to therapy to talk about it plenty of times but yeah i think at that to make it makes it really hard times as sending those boundaries and so i've got to be honest with everyone that this is a process of practicing and i really think anytime you dip your toes into some kind of boundary setting. You're doing you're doing good. You know just practicing. And so i had a really great experience with executing of joscelyn's recommendations that leads to something that i've finally had the capacity to listen to you that i now want to recommend everyone else and do so A few weeks ago we had just gotten back from like tons of different vacations and travelling around and we like l. a. d. had gotten sick and i was. I think he didn't get sick. Not cova thankfully but we all have like normal. Colds like summer colds. that was awful And we had been traveling. I think truthfully was just rundown kind of feelings and we were supposed to go on another family trip I felt awful about it..
Hurry Slowly
"jocelyn" Discussed on Hurry Slowly
"I haven't had time to set up a donation system yet so more on that down the line. But i wanted to share my new vision and how the integration of my own pandemic realizations starting to unfold the second aspect of the podcast is changing. Is the focus. I ended last season with an episode entitled rest in peace productivity and staying true to that vision i'm leaving behind any last dregs of ideas about optimization that were lingering in the podcast and heading in the other direction for season four in keeping with this idea of combating the wobbly nece that we're all feeling right now and sorting out how we can recalibrate and integrate all. That's unfolded to arrive at a new normal. The theme of the new season of hurry slowly will be. How can we begin again. I'll be talking to thinkers and healers and facilitators an activists about building community and re angering ourselves in ritual and navigating trauma and moving toward a more equitable society and hopefully in these conversations. We can begin to illuminate a way forward. So that's the podcast and the changes. That are percolating in what you can expect the other brand new project. That i'm rolling out. Today is radiate a community for collective transformation which is going to be the biggest most in-depth creative program i've ever offered radiate is a collaborative learning community dedicated to exploring integrating and radiating transformative change. I believe that this emergence that we're all going through right. Now is a once in a lifetime event. But we've gone through in the past year was both painful and remarkable. I would liken it to a global healing crisis that moment when things have to get really bad before they get better and to varying degrees. We all went into a cave of self reflection last year. And now we're emerging with these jewels of insight that we have to learn how to integrate into our lives and that integration is going to require new rituals new ways of working new ways of being community new ways of organizing society new.
Hurry Slowly
"jocelyn" Discussed on Hurry Slowly
"Live in a more energetically pure state so to speak as we go back out into the world having people. We don't know once again enter. Our energetic field is gonna feel shocking. Maybe even a little violating depending on how secluded you've been so for instance a few weeks ago. I went to a weekend. Retreat to learn more about the practice of sound healing the rigorous protocols in place that everyone be vaccinated or tested negative for covance. We were able to gathering in learning space in the dining area. Without masks. And the first time i sat down to dinner with a new person for my class i felt such a palpable physical shock. I was sitting down with a stranger without masks. Who was only about two feet away from me. There was a kind of somatic alert that went off. That was completely beyond my conscious control. Because i knew intellectually that. I was safe but eventually over the weekend. I became accustomed to eating with my new classmates and my body's alarm system relaxed but that's just my experience. Roll coming back into the world with different baggage from the pandemic and a different set of ideas. About what makes us feel safe. And so we're all going to experience this recalibration of the energy field to leading a social world again in different ways. And we're really going to have to be patient with ourselves and with others. But i think it's worth noting that this reset of our energy fields also allowed another important shift to happen a clarification of her reconnection to our core values because we had the opportunity to be completely contained in our own energy and to look out at the world from that perhaps more centered place that really allowed many of us to tune back into what really matters. We renewed our commitment to collective liberation awakened to it for the first time. Seeing the urgent need to repair the violence inequities that have existed in her country. For so long we realized that we lack the solace in rituals. We need to help us through hard times. And we reconnected spirituality. Or found new ways to connect to source. We spent more time in nature and recognized how strange we have become from the healing power and wisdom of plants and animals and the earth and we recommitted to getting into right relationship with mother nature in our environment we rediscovered self expression and creative practices. Or what folks used to call hobbies painting knitting gardening playing guitar cooking. We reconnected with therapeutic value. Enjoy of everyday creativity of doing something just for the pleasure of it now because it's a side hustle and most of all we rediscovered the value of people spending time with our partners with our kids with our friends. We recognize who had our back..
Hurry Slowly
"jocelyn" Discussed on Hurry Slowly
"I'm jocelyn cake lie and this is hurry slowly when a wrapped third season of this podcast in january of this year. I wasn't sure if i will be welcoming you back for a fourth season was burnt out and it wasn't one hundred percent clear to me. What the mission of the podcast would be moving forward but now our entering this incredibly strange totally unique moment where we're beginning to emerge into the world like vulnerable little newborns after over a year of seclusion and it seems to me that if we just take the name of this podcast at face value this is most certainly a time to think about hurrying slowly because we have so much to integrate so much from what we've all been through in the past year and that's where i want to start today to just crystallize the scope and sheer vast nest of the shift. That were currently moving through and how different perspectives and our situations are. Some folks have continued to be out and about in the world throat most of the pandemic going to the coffee shop during the grocery shopping.
HORSES IN THE MORNING
"jocelyn" Discussed on HORSES IN THE MORNING
"The movement But yeah so. I'll be in the middle of the country. You win the east coast brand covered the country we are. We're we're all traveling. It's exciting and i think you to. Everybody reached out already. They apparently have carriage ride tour setup and all and we're going to polo match and all kinds of stuff so thank you everybody Especially amy hiebert no relation by the way she runs aken salary and she's been so kind about everything and getting everything set up and we're looking forward to. It's going to be honest. Jelly of the shopping. Your wife's he can salaries apparently pretty nice to Secretary at sculptor jocelyn russell is joining us as she jamie managed to get an interview with her when she hung out with the other day talking about secretary and her new life size animals that she's doing and are black. Rains guest is aaron brown. She's known as the concrete cowgirl she's gonna tell us about the philadelphia urban riding academy and the us new diversity program plus appearing horse health segment. We learn when you need a chiropractor for your horse so we lot coming up on. Today's show hanging around for.
Sci-Fi Talk Indie Film
"jocelyn" Discussed on Sci-Fi Talk Indie Film
"What in other words what scares yeah. Yeah a guy i don't. I'm not scared of you. Know who wants to do anything. I i'm with you on that like killers or Real human would scare me. I don't watch a lot of horror. I do love. Serial killer story like cardinal minds. I love those kind of stories. I e yeah. That's that's more scary to actually interviewed. garcia a while ago and it was called tabar talk about how she created. The character is really a lot it. Yeah i worked. So i did. I've been a fan of mr show. Recused so i did an episode of that. He was last year he did. That's right y'all my and i got to meet all of them and i was like i want you know. Yeah so the yeah. She's really cool. I love that experience so like going to see you know her little layer where she is computers and she does her thing so one of my scenes in there with her and she had all these things on her desk. 'cause you just kind of chaotic and she has all these and everything on her desk Of the things are desk. Were things that fans have sent in march they should they become prox- in the show which i think was super cool. Yeah she got. She started the ball rolling then as this show gained popularity in our it. What what's interesting is your views on har and yet you were in the stream. Yeah yeah. I mean it's theory when you're in it but yeah you have to watch. I mean i watched it before i did. It sells like home. Gosh but yeah. It's not that scary to me when people become vampires or the worms or good good experience. Yes for sure it was it was awesome and you were also on a show streaming now the order. Oh yeah yeah. That was a scary one to actually my also with something not human. Yes the trend. Absolutely talk about your role in pixels. I mean that's talking about his. Cgi fest i'm honda. Oh yes that was one of the second acting role i ever got so it was pretty small. I'm in the beginning where it's like. The eighties. flashback. Yes so That was like the first real onset experience i ever had. And i love adam sandler and i just got to work and he was there in his dog was there and i was like hi so nice in like oh my god food on that set was in saint like you have this giant. It was like a wedding every day. Insane and then yeah it was really really cool and all these turned up no but he you know there's really really cool so as an actor what do you what do you want to do do you want to just. I mean you acted in films. You've acted on television. Do you want to get back into the director's chair. Or maybe produce. Yeah i i don't know about producing But i would definitely love to direct something. I would love to be on a series for long enough like maybe do two seasons and then maybe on season three direct an episode. I think that'd be a superfine especially when you're already in it for so long and you know the crew and you know the casting story. I think that would be like a really Cool just challenge and opportunities. I would love to do that in the future. But i want to stick mostly with acting and tv. I think to for sure. I i love. I love like long running shows. I also love watching. Tv a lot So i think yeah just want to stay in kind of world. I mean your background. Your rebound rena. Does that help you with With your act. Oh yeah. I think Being able to take direction Not getting offended by direction and and be able to remember everything. I think that a lot of that comes from ballet. Yeah you get told. A million. Things like blink. Here stand here. don't do that. Don't do that and then you have to remember all that in the performance. So i think ballet's a really strong foundation for that and also with movement and body awareness and being able to pick things up like stunts or Yeah i think. I think it helped in the i think is the best thing i could have done. I know you're also a certified scuba diver. And my brother and his wife are are certified and so our kids so they dived together. And i don't know if you've done this. But they dove in hawaii at night like with these with these manta rays. They shot footage of. It was amazing so quoted allowed to do that. I haven't that night. But i have my entire family. Also we have a room in her house. Yeah we have a room in. Her house called the dive room and a bunch of like hanging dry suit wet so it just kinda looks like it's a little creepy but Yes a family that has regulators together dives together. Yeah this film you know. I guess just as we're going to see this primarily on a vod right now at just nature of the way things are i mean in some theaters. Don't know exactly which can be. I think you definitely have to just get on the As just like everything gets me scared in your own house you go. Well done a lot lately. Believe me different thing to do. Well that's great. It's been really fun talking to you. And once again the movie is safer at home and check it out on the o. D. and we've been talking to jocelyn you don't and definitely check her out as well and you never know you might see you're on the train and criminal minds sometime- to thanks again. Best luck to you. Thank you so much. Thanks bye and thank you for listening to side. Take care hi. My name's aaron douglas in battle star galactica. You're listening to sifi talk..
Sci-Fi Talk
"jocelyn" Discussed on Sci-Fi Talk
"What in other words what scares yeah. Yeah a guy i don't. I'm not scared of you. Know wants to or anything. I'm with you on that. Like killers or Real human would scare me. I don't watch a lot of horror. I do love serial killer story. I love those kind of stories. I e yeah. That's more scary to me. Actually interviewed Garcia while ago and It was called tabar talked about how she created. The character is really fun. Yeah i worked. So i did. I've been a fan of show recused. So i did an episode of that. He was last year. That's right that's right. Y'all my and i got to meet all of them and i was like i want you know. Yeah so the yeah. She's really cool. I loved that experience. So we're going to so you know her little layer where she is. Peter is and she does her thing. My one of my seems was in there with her and she had all these things on her desk. 'cause you just kind of chaotic and she has all these and everything on her desk We'll most of the things are desk. Were things that fans have sent in. They should they become prox- in the show which i think was super cool. Yes she got. She started the ball rolling then as this show gained popularity in our it. What what's interesting is your views on har and yet you were in the stream. Yeah yeah. I mean plus theory when you're in it but yeah you have to watch. I mean i watched it before i did. It sells like home. Gosh but yeah. It's not that scary to me when people become vampires or the worms or good good experience. Yes for sure it was it was awesome and you were also on a show streaming now the order. Oh yeah yep that was a scary one to actually my also with something not human. Yes the trend. Absolutely talk about your role in pixels. I mean that's talking about is cgi. Fest i'm moving honda. Oh yes that was one of the second acting role i ever got so it was pretty small. I'm in the beginning where it's like the eighties. Flashback yeah so That was like the first real onset experience i ever had. And i love adam sandler and i just got to work. And and he was there in his dogs their nose like hi so nice and like oh my god food on that set was in saint like you have this giant. It was like a wedding every day. Insane and then yeah it was really really cool and all these like turned up. No but he you know this really really cool so as an actor what do you what do you want to do want to just. I mean you acted in films. You've acted on television. Do you want to get back into the director's chair. Or maybe produce. Yeah i i don't know about producing But i would definitely love to direct something. I would love to be on a series for long enough like maybe do two seasons and then maybe on season three direct an episode. I think that'd be a super superfine especially when you're already in it for so long and you know the crew and you know the casting story. I think that would be like a really Cool just challenge and opportunities. I would love to do that in the future. But i want to stick mostly with acting and tv. I think to for sure. I i love. I love like long running shows. I also love watching. Tv a lot on. So i think yeah just want to stay kind of world. I mean your background. You rebound rena. Does that help you with with your act. Oh yeah i think Being able to take direction Not getting offended by direction and and be able to remember everything. I think that a lot of that comes from ballet. Yeah you get told. A million. Things like blink. Here stand here. don't do that. Don't do that. And then you have to remember all that performance so i think ballet's a really strong foundation for that and also with movement and body awareness and being able to pick things up like stunts or Yeah i think. I think it helped in the. I think that is the best thing i could have done. I know you're also a certified scuba diver. And my brother and his wife are are certified and so our kids so they dive together. And i don't know if you've done this. But they dove in hawaii at night like with these with these manta rays. They shot footage of. It was amazing so quoted loud to do that. I haven't met night. But i have my entire family. Also we have a room in her house. Yeah we have a room in. Her house called the dive room and a bunch of like hanging dry suit in wetsuits. So it kinda looks like. It's a little creepy but Yes a family that has regulators together dives together. Yeah this film you know. I guess just as we're going to see this primarily on a vod right now at just nhra or of the way things are. i mean in some theaters. I don't know exactly which can be. I think you definitely have to just get on the od As just like everything gets me scared in your own house you go. Well done that a lot lately. Believe me different thing to do. Well that's great. It's been really fun talking to you. And once again the movie is safer at home and check it out on the od and we've been talking to jocelyn you don't and definitely check her out as well and you never know you might see you're on the train and criminal minds time to thanks again and best of luck to you. Thank you so much. Thanks bye and thank you for listening to side. Talk take care. How about aims aaron douglas. I'm battle star galactica. You're listening to sifi talk..
Sci-Fi Talk
"jocelyn" Discussed on Sci-Fi Talk
"Don davis. I'm the composer of the matrix. Matrix reloaded and the matrix revolutions. Hi this is. John delancey kind of the things that aren't there. Well you know. Sometimes you have the variance anyway. People at all. They're gone in part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion. Today on scifi talk we have jocelyn who don. Who is starring in a new film safer at home and talking about ripped from the headlines. We're all going through the pandemic and these two friends man. They just they do stuff they shouldn't be doing and added to the craziness of the pandemic it just builds and builds welcome jocelyn. It's nice to have you on the podcast. Thank you so much. I'm happy to be here so you play gen so tell us a little bit of bad. Jet jen has a gen Starts out in a movie very positively as she gets great news that she shares with one of her friends and she's waiting to tell Tell her boyfriend the good news. And then there's kind of attention throughout the movie where she's trying to kind of focus on big big picture positive fangs and she kinda gets nitpicked a little bit during the movie which leads to you. Know something traumatic happening. But she's like a loving caring growing leser. Friends leads her boyfriend and she just bad things happen to. Yeah there's a. There's i guess the best way to say. It is better living through chemistry. Maybe yeah yeah. Things get out of control a little bit and independent mhic adds a lot to it from an acting standpoint. How do you maintain and attention. Is it constant their peaks and valleys. I mean from an acting standpoint with the movie. A lot of the things were on kind of easy for me to do and relate to Especially like i mean crying during that film was super super. Easy for me At the end where someone gets shot like that weighs in the middle of the the the protests and the riots and that was a very real thing that we were all living through. So i mean it was. It was actually very easy to draw on our immediate life situations for for those scenes. It was very very like real experience. All of us to and your director. We'll warning how is how is he as director. He also co wrote the script to yeah he was great We didn't ever meet him so I think it was. I'm very impressed with well. Organizing all that like everything was above my expectations especially filming on zoom. And and you know you're not actually going to be on zoom. Like how are we going to her gonna time our lines were all like miles apart from each other but we monitor set up camera setup. We had a bunch of rehearsals on and then he cut it together. Really really well. I think he brought it like really alive in the in the edit lakes. I'm super impressed with him and he would give notes kind of on the like dodd kind of speaker kind of thing which was cool so yeah i think it was a big challenge for him to like or at it and put together and i'm really impressed with what he did. That's gotta be a challenge. It's like a whole another way of acting. It sounds like yeah it was weird. I mean you're kind of alone. And then when we did have the monitor up and we can interact with the other actors did kinda just kinda start to groove and it was more natural than you would think it was The the most daunting thing was definitely like the there was no cutting really like no. The scenes were huge because it was just one long rolling conversation So there's no natural breaks really so we just had to memorize giant chunks of of the script which was really fine and i was like a new challenge too because it was kind of like a play which was cool. That's great so all in all. How long did you guys Shoot for. I think house there for like five days. I think it was probably a week. Yeah yeah 'cause i mean there were just. There's no camera moves to your like your. The camera does not move. You don't go into your. There's no the latest setup once And then the rest was like really raw so we didn't get a lot done in a few days. Was it easier because we are going through a pandemic and we are sequestered. So you didn't have to kind of fake. That party had a lot to relate in that we all going through. Yeah for sure. It was easy to access a lot of like new emotions. That's really and you had there. Were no other pickups or anything like that as far as reshoots or anything like now larry shoots for me. I don't think they did anyone. Anyone else either. Wow that's pretty amazing. Pretty amazed so you never met your director and and that's really really wild. Do you hopefully when things are better. You get the chance to say. Hi you know. I would love to meet everyone from the movie. I mean we really got along well on the internet. So i i feel like i feel like we'd be friends realize so hopefully one day we all meet your also director. So when you're acting in a film do you kinda bring maybe from the back of your brain. The director shot of you a little bit to kind of see how things like how the director is talking to the actors and how he's handling or she is handling the scene. No i try to separate that completely like yes so i ain't directed something so i could pitch myself to what via director on shows that i get you in the future i But no i just kind of. I mean i'm very observance with a lot of things on set but i try not to think about other people's jobs just call like less than do their thing and i just try to focus fully on on my job but i do like just watch everyone and watch the sound. I watched her makeup. I'm just aware of like everyone. In everyone's you know whatever else contributing to the to the day but i just try to focus on my thing i just i just leave it in their hands. I like i like watching. I love how different directors interact with people in the notes. They do give the notes they don't give but yeah. I try to separate. There's more sifi talk so stick with. Here's more sci fi. Talk with tony to lonzo. What was your reaction when you saw the finish crimes. I thought it was hilarious. Like of course. It's scary but i thought the beginning was hilarious. I was laughing so oh my gosh. I thought it was hilarious. Like the dance scene. And the boys like edwin and will end daniel's i thought they were hilarious. and then it turns dark but it was a lot quicker and upbeat than i expected it to be Which i think really helps when things go badly later. Do you think that kind of ground. Jenny reality a little bit. Yeah i think. I think the whole conversation is super realistic. There's nothing really forced. there's no like crazy events. It also seems like it could actually happen so i think that will. Yeah i think people ask like your opinion on har for me. I think the worst horror that could be done is not something supernatural or a creature that doesn't exist but what a man or woman can do to another man or woman to me is more horrific serial killers or whatever because it can happen in real life which your opinion on that is that.
We Are The Runners Show
"jocelyn" Discussed on We Are The Runners Show
"Its way you're on the five phase which is also with the six hundred the half marathon thirteen miles and then your pool marathon twenty six mile in four consecutive days. So back what i was saying. It's it's insane. Glad called the dopey metal. If you complete call for those your paid metal this year was chippendale of course when you had your cave. Which was. I think. I won't if i'm quick because i didn't run. They'll be going to in person. Would it switched the virtual ask you a refund. It would have been my first opie. So i want the magic so i'm waiting to get the magic. Actually india's neither on my first open challenge but a back on then. There's goofy challenges behalf and the full marathon which i did that in two thousand eighteen. I ran a half marathon on very former on sunday. And then the dopey challenge of course when you get out of that old. 'cause you're at all the races and that normally a mickey being drapes so you see a lot of the media will which adds money did full marathon that the my tradition running the full marathon now when you do star wars what your go to costume. Oh man berries. I did Both on the light side so guy did to baca. Which if you go to. I'm not sure if it's still under if you go to register for or to even look at the run dc sites. I was on the registration. And i was a mashup to baca an adroit. I guess so. I'm only did. I do mostly droid simple stuff. But the costumes are amazing. Amazing by everybody of during the car was wesleyan. I feel like if i was running over. Just be of course focusing on the run but just staring at everybody like. Oh that's awesome. That's so cool. I'll stem yep. And i think people get the most created during star wars because some of the top comes up Looking at how are they gonna run running that. I am trying to get my brother to run as can run his last. It's twins but he's like i would do that. It would be so cool. So i'm going to work in the next time with star wars back. We'll be luke and leia combination together. So that would be that has to happen. Yeah he he's a simple because he's just like shirt and shorts. He doesn't care about the costumes. He might do stark to shirt herself but like me. I like to go out as much as i can that. I'm comfortable in it. So i think i could do a costume. I the tutu's i just. I don't i don't know. I don't know if i could do the big to the low sir sparkle athletic. I do that. I have a grant who does have to. The aba never ran a full to a lot about pictures are happy to which you know. Just the back did. It doesn't bother me as much but Yeah i don't get too crazy in head headpieces some people run with hippies is i'm like oh my god could not run.
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"jocelyn" Discussed on We Are The Runners Show
"Years ago. There were different routes. But i think with all the construction has been going on pretty much the same route for all of the different Race weekends so that of course as you start at so you're pretty much do it. You crowded parking lot in so-called around the ball back out and boom that you're five-page route the ten also start in epcot. You're doing some highway and then you're back through epoch and finish the southeast and then for your half marathon which they have switched this up the past couple years it actually starts at matching them. Ed in it i. Everybody tends to like that race that the that is the race that you actually run down main street through the capital so and you do all four parks. Everybody loves the half marathon for that and then dime epcot f. Eight used to be a night race so it it did. I think the same route but since two years ago so it now starts at five. am again. it's will know the far bet the wanted. I've had all the hats on a magic kingdom. Now and you just at epcot like so much fun. Which i a lot of people don't like bed. The route have basically become the same but for me. It's the magic. It's only four times a year. That i get to run with this magic so i don't mind that it's the same route every half marathon. You know you have the different pictures of different themes which makes it amazing to me. Is disney so. Hey i'll take it anyway getting now. You mentioned the found five for somebody that may not know. I have a feeling who that might be. But you're right so with the wadis your marathon weekend which is like i said the major big weekend that i think is the race always. That started run dizzy. They only half of the the racist based on your five hundred Making many goofy daisy. This year they decided to incorporate chippendale in the five k which was a cool surprise accord. Donald is always your car. Then you have tiffany back up a little bit image place. Walt disneyworld weird. They'll be in so most people have heard about the coveted dobie. Challenge her your walt disneyworld on..
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"jocelyn" Discussed on We Are The Runners Show
"Yeah you know. And then i just told her very nicely the other day. I'm like you know she's like ooh okay. Well we'll get it done like all. Righty it actually. Now it's you know. Just being on instagram and looking at your instagram. It seems like there's a very tight knit social media presence within the disney groups. I'll tell you what i and so two thousand fourteen. It seemed like it was very. I'll tell you it is very welcoming. I have heard other run friends that don't do. Disney is something that you either like. Or you don't have friends that said it's not their thing to dress in costume to me. That is why i love it. So it's very supportive. Groups have to rudd friends that have now become almost best friends that i met through the run. So it's a tight knit but very welcoming and supportive community so you've met some folks online and then do you meet up when you definitely. We plan the weekend Together are even nine race against like even though star wars have cancelled and its its virtual now me and of my again my Run friends were still down. We're gonna meet 'em ruin the five k. On disney property so these people a lot of people have met have become like family and really good friends of the red is. I love that. That is so fun. Now you mentioned costumes and you mentioned you wouldn't do it if you i mean it's all about the costumes. So do the labor bieber costume that you wear so. I like the channel my inner piano. I will be wearing much on being saturday. So they actually. That one definitely had to do this weekend. So i can to channel her a lot so i may have tian being scarred my fears to a go with the of the weekend but you can gear mostly on princess weekend. I'm going to be a princess. Tiana my bob. Oh yes so. I i you know i just love it. I just love your now have they. I know they're starting construction on the new tiana ride is that do you know where that's at right out of their own in january a fuel out of the nfl. With the american weekend met up with a couple of friends who ran width to magic kingdom. But i don't think they had closed down and start construction yet. So i've set to go this weekend but i have to work so i'm not gonna i'm gonna miss the whole princess funny to see the status of that ride but i'm looking forward to it. So yeah maybe a little more in type to ride than before just. Because i don't like it okay. So it's not going to be a water ride. Now it is but i have the past avoided it because it was there.
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"jocelyn" Discussed on We Are The Runners Show
"My personal opinion yet. Okay so you know. They the kids. They use the same for an the past. They used the same time that we got to use for the princess rights. Is you know saw. You had a big who right now is kinda big and they run. Of course i guess said the kids still have a blast. Actual have a blast watching it. I enjoy going to the kids racist more than i actually my my own. But that's because my my son's five and he did his first kids race when he was sixteen months old. So you know. He's he's quite a few runs into the racism. And i always get so excited to see him more than i knew myself. So is your whole family involved in this my husband. This is my brother. My twin if anybody followed me he Recently got into running two thousand six thirteen. He wanted to see for himself. What all what's because he would hear me talk about this race he would hear friends. You know mutual run friends. Say oh my god. This is amazing so he actually signed up for the princess. Tin case In two thousand sixteen and he was he actually ran his next race which was a half marathon out and disneyland california and i was like oh my god so he has been hooked on the running every since then. An intern has got his. He has a seven year old and an eight year old. They loved the racist as well so they do the kids racists along with my side so it's it's kind of a family. They we have great spouse this who supported my husband and his wife and also my mom there are number one. Here's why they're there for all the races at the end waiting on us. And just you know. There's been supportive in in our training. And just like those you know chris. I go so i have to ask. If the princess was his first race with ron disney was.
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"jocelyn" Discussed on WTOP
"Jocelyn Chessen is our producer and just ahead. The U. S Capital remains under armed guard. But what's being done to protect it from attacks in the future on Capitol Hill? I'm Mitchell Miller. Another Corona. Virus vaccine gets approval for use in low income countries around the world. A special enrollment window for the Affordable Care Act opens today. I'm Christopher Cruz no trading today on Wall Street because of the President's Day holiday. It's 2 31 wide range of security steps are being taken in an effort to make sure the capital is never again overrun by arriving mob and there are growing calls for a 9 11 type Commission to review what happened on January 6th w T. O P S. Mitchell Miller on Capitol Hill Video, shown during the latest impeachment trial were a vivid reminder of the massive security breach last month. Members of both parties are voicing support for an independent 9 11 panel to review what went wrong and provide recommendations. D c delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton says the deadly attack goes well beyond what was done or not done by Capitol police and law enforcement. This was really an intelligence and security failure. In addition to various investigations underway, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently announced that retired Lieutenant General Russel Honore, widely praised for his response to Hurricane Katrina. Is leading a review of the failures related to dealing with the insurrection on Capitol Hill, Mitchell Miller w T o p News meantime, North Carolina Republican Senator Richard Burr is the latest GOP lawmaker to face the wrath of the State Party. The North Carolina GOP is expected to vote today on whether to censure Burr over his vote to convict former President Trump in the Senate impeachment trial. Burr was one of seven Republican senators who joined all Senate Democrats in voting to convict Senator Burr says Trump bears responsibility for last month's right at the Capitol, Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy was quickly censured yesterday by his State Party following the trial anytime they Biden administration is moving past impeachment and is going ahead with its pandemic relief plan. The plan is to keep focused on the pandemic itself. He's planning.
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Uk tightens up on international travel
"Britain's government has announced tougher quarantine and testing measures for international travelers in a bid to prevent corona virus variants and gaining a foothold in the country health secretary Matt Hancock says all arrivals will be required to take to cope with nineteen tests during that ten day quarantine to enable forties to better track new cases international travelers already have to show proof of a negative test before they can get on a flight to enter the country a new hotel quarantine system will also be put in place the British and Irish residents who arrived from the British government's thirty three red list countries the new measures will come into force on Monday anyone found violating the rules could face up to a ten year prison sentence Jocelyn this month London
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How To Do Nothing With Jenny Odell
"Jenny. Thanks so much for doing this. Nice to meet you nice to meet you and thanks for having me so you have great line. I think you may be the opening line or one of the opening lines of your book. Nothing is harder to do the nothing. Can you unpack that. I totally agree. I just want to hear your point of view on that. yeah. I think that doing nothing. Or maybe more appropriately. Feeling like you're doing. Nothing is hard for several reasons. One is just habit. I think there's a habitual way of thinking in which you always need to be working towards something or having something to show for your time otherwise it was somehow worthless. I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Because ratings new book about time there's kind of like orientation toward time in general. I think that's almost a leaning forward. There's some desired outcome. that's different from the president. And you're sort of leaning forward in the space between those sue and to do nothing in relationship to that would be to simply just sit back and just in that moment as it is which is very difficult to do because of that. I think you get into that posture. It's something you get used to. The posture leaning forward the great writer and former buddhist monks. Stephen batchelor i believe. Hopefully i'm steven. If you're listening. We're friends so he might be listening. I apologize if we're gonna mangle this line. But i believe in his book buddhism without beliefs. He says something about how our default state is wanting to be elsewhere or otherwise. Yeah that's exactly. That's such a good way of putting it. It's this kind of underlying dissatisfaction or feeling that something where you are inadequate therefore you need to be sort of working working against that. I think that actually that line makes me. Think of pauline oliveros who i talk about in the book who is a sound artist and composer and she's similarly says the reason for needing to cultivate deep listening which is her name for sitting in an environment and listening actively is that our culture privileges snap judgment basically needing to grasp and react to things and that the opposite of that which would just be kind of empty. Listening is something that i think you already need to train yourself to do but especially have to train yourself to do now because everything's kind of a raid against that. How have we gotten ourselves into this situation. Because i fully agree. I feel haunted by what We're both quoting a lot of other people. Hear about quote again is a great podcast or jocelyn k. glide as a podcast called hurry slowly. She's been on the show and she talks about something called productivity shame which really describes my mindset. Maybe twenty two and a half hours per day of just feeling haunted always behind every moment needs to be maximized optimize utilized. Where does this mindset. come from. Well i mean. I have been on her podcast. And she's great. I love that podcasts. But in terms of where this mindset comes from just a mere speaking from my own experience. I think that it probably starts pretty early on. I mean i have. I have journals going back to when i was just old enough to right and have you know really detailed journals through high school in college and i went back through them about a year and a half ago and i was kind of horrified. Find myself saying the same exact thing today. Say now like. I never have any time. You can just see this kind of always running after something like always trying to catch up and there's like some passengers where like staring towards the santa cruz mountains and sort of wishing i can just go over there and draw of this and it's the kind of very familiar refrain and so i was reflecting when i was reading those about how even and that was pre social media kind of over scheduled. I was and i think that's kind of a combination of you know school could be your parents. It could just be kind of like the ether of expectation. Like that something. That i think about a lot with my students who are at stanford be that. No one in particular is telling them that they need to do that many things. It's just an expectation that exists around them so it's really like a culture a business or culture productivity where yes technically you are. Free did not participate in that but you will feel the pressure of not falling in line with that culture.
All In with Chris Hayes
Michigan State House, Senate close over 'threats of violence' during Electoral College meeting
"Looked for a time earlier today. Like things could get ugly in michigan. The state closed its house and senate office buildings over what they said were credible threats of violence during today's electoral college meeting and then republican state representative gary isan suggested he and other republicans would disrupt the electoral college vote. He also predicted there. Would be violence prompting this. Can you assure me that this is going to be a safe day in in lansing. Nobody's gonna get hurt no. I don't know what we're doing. Today is chartered. Here's it been done after. Gary isan made those comments michigan. Republican legislative leaders pulled him from his committee assignments. Meanwhile the scene in lansing was thankfully ultimately cau- just a dozen or so pro-trump protesters showing up outside the capitol a chilly day and when he grow group of republican electors tried to enter that building michigan state. Police turn them away. Half of those call was much an often from holding or ignore taking part of your process. Anybody else thank ben check in inside the democratic electors about the people's business where they elected joe biden. Starting barnes. has the tally been completed. Yes lieutenant governor. The elected unanimously cast. Sixteen votes for joseph r biden. I'm joined now by michigan's democratic secretary of state johnson benson earlier. This month had her home surrounded by angry trump supporters. Some of them harmed who falsely accused her of allowing the election to be stolen. But start secretary of state with your your top line on. Today i was. I was a bit worried when i saw the news about closing the house and the senate but it seemed like things went smoothly. How do you feel went today. I think it was a great day for democracy. Chris was really a reflection of all the work that went into this election to ensure that we were able to have a high turnout election In the midst of the pandemic all the work that's happened. Since the polls closed on november third to ensure the votes were counted accurately it securely and really this was the the end result of a long and winding road that every step of the way we work to make sure that the voters well was heard and democracy was protected. We have seen now. Obviously there were arrests of a number of individuals who have been charged with allegedly plotting the kidnapping or execution of the democratic governor. Gretchen whitmer You had people outside of your house Some of them armed a protesting. There were concerned today in arizona. As i understand it where the leading of the electors was moved to an undisclosed location. What does it do to democratic governance and democracy when this sort of threat of violence hangs over the activities of folks. What you know. I started my career in the south investigating and hate crimes all around the country and was really instilled there with the strong sense in an acute awareness of just how much oftentimes does have to be preserved in the potential for violence that that could engender to ensure that democracy does prevail. And so that's never been lost on me and many of us including my friends secretary hobson in arizona. And it's something that we're actually acutely aware rows and willing to with to endure in order to ensure that our democracy is protected. A lot of people have said to me this year. Did you really sign up for this and my response is absolutely. I absolutely signed up to put everything on the line to protect the will of the people to protect our democracy. None of us of course predicted all of the turns of events that have occurred since the polls closed But that said we're ready and will continue to be ready. We'll continue to stay safe to ensure that our democracy and turn is also safe. Something i've seen a in many states across the nation in reaction is a real circular logic from republicans in which after touting or tolerating or even endorsing these blue to chris conspiracy theories now pointing and saying well people. Are you know. There's a lot of concern and using that as a predicate for restrictions on voting. Well we're gonna have to shutdown mail in voting. Well we're gonna have to take another look at this. Well we're gonna have to do voter. Id and signature matching all these things. How much you seen that michigan. Do you think there's going to be a battle now about ballot access. The uses these conspiracies as a kind of weaponized tool. Yeah sure it again. That's also what we've seen. Throughout the history of our democracy people create a fire and then create an idea of what needs to put that fire out and often times. Election administrators are stuck in the middle and that voters are are stuck in the middle. When i believe needs to happen is we need to one come together and actually listen to each other and try to heal this. Divide right now but to do so. On the basis of facts and data and truth we all have to be working from the same set of facts here. Facts and truth have actually been unequivocal undeniable throughout this entire process. We had a high turnout election michigan. Five point five million people voted in the midst of the pandemic. It was secure. The results were accurate. So we can start from there. We can find ways to improve the process moving forward making data driven decisions but we also have to do is acknowledge the impact of the conspiracy theories in false information that has been spread by many actors throughout this process and correct that before trying to solve for any potential issues. Moving forward right michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson. Thank you so much for being with me.
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Michigan secretary of state says armed protesters gathered outside her home
"Statement just out from Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Bensonhurst is the office that runs elections. Benson says dozens of armed protesters yelled obscenities outside her home last night, just as her four year old son was about to watch how the Grinch stole Christmas.
All Things Considered
Michigan Secretary Of State On Challenges Certifying Election Results In Her State
"A little known board of county officials in Michigan made bigger headlines than Congress this week. That's because for a moment, the two Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers seemed to hold the fate. Of Michigan's presidential election results in their hands. And now, as Republican lawmakers from Michigan visit the White House and President Trump's attempts to overthrow the legitimate results of the election dragon, the Trump campaign's focus appears trained on Michigan, which is why we wanted to invite Michigan's Democratic secretary of state on to the program. Jocelyn Benson is in charge of the election in Michigan. Welcome. Good evening. Thanks for having me you have had quite a week. Let's let's start with this business in Wayne County, which is home to Detroit, of course to officials saying they would not certify. Then they said they would not. They want to take it back. Where does this stand? Well, First, it's clear that the voters of Wayne County in Michigan have spoken. They've made a choice. There's no legal or factual basis to question that choice. And the Wayne County Board of Canvassers did in an open meeting as an official process, making official vote to can approve the and certify the results of the election in Wayne County justice every county in the state has done on campus is required by law to certify results. That's what they've done, and now we expect the border state canisters to do the same. Okay, so that that vote that stands, Yes, votes. And when you're an official state board what's after you've taken and you know in a meeting that complies with the Open meetings act, and that's what occurred here. Well, let me move you two today and this meeting at the White House. The White House is characterizing these visiting Michigan lawmakers that this is a routine meeting. That's what White House spokesperson Kayleigh Mcenany saying. Is it routine for the president of the United States to call Michigan state officials and invite them to a private meeting at the White House? No, I don't know if it's ever happened before. Certainly not at a time like this, where there's so much focus on Michigan as you mentioned, But it's important to note that both the speaker and the Senate majority leader have stated they would not obstruct the will of the voters, which they've confirmed has been quite clear, and we have no reason to doubt that yet and I'm going to continue to expect they'll Follow the law as it's very clearly laid out in our state Constitution and state statutes. What should occur at this point? And do you have any Intel on the agenda for the meeting? How it's going on? Not at all? No, I really stay out of that process on the state's chief election officer. My job is to just make sure that the The will of the voters is what rules the day. Well, may I ask that the broad path that President Trump and his lawyers appear to be charting involves convincing Michigan State Board of Canvassers not to certify the Biden victory in Michigan. And then convincing state lawmakers to appoint electors who would overturn the will of Michigan voters. Is that a correct summary and if so, would that be legal? But know that it is potentially a path that I imagine people may imagine in their heads stick but there, But there's not something there's nothing in the law that or nothing, actually, that's occurred yet that would indicate that anyone is going down that path, and that's what I think it's important to focus on. Indeed, every one of Michigan's 83 counties have certified the election, Republican and Democratic clerks have confirmed That there's no evidence of widespread irregularities, and the board has previously started fight elections when there were more clerical mistakes and narrower margins of victory. Then there is this time around, and so it really being agreed this departure from their legal responsibility and requirements for them to do anything other than certified the election on Monday, and May I ask you Have you personally seen any evidence is the person in charge of the election message? Men? Michigan have you seen any evidence of widespread fraud of wrongdoing of rigging the vote? No, not at all. And not only that This has been one of the more scrutinized elections in modern history for our state. So if there was anything to discover or find, we certainly would have found it at this point, So there is no reason that you can point to that Biden winning Michigan by more than 150,000 votes that that would not stand. No, not at all and his. I started out by saying that it's actually it's very clear that the voters have spoken. It's very clear that there is no legal or factual basis to question that choice.
The Paul W. Smith Show
Biden edges closer to projected electoral victory
"Of state, the Great State of Michigan Secretary. Of state. Jocelyn Benson, Madam secretary. Welcome back. Good morning. I'm good. I'm inclined to say Other than that, Mrs Lincoln. How did you enjoy the play expression? 48 hours. The mitten. What do we do about that? I I understand the effort. We've all talked about the effort to get more people involved, make voting easier. It's after etcetera, but When do we know if we've gone too far, making it easy for people to vote and sometimes vote repeatedly or vote on behalf of dead people with Chicago became famous for We don't want to be famous for that in Michigan. How do we control this so that we don't have the end result that we're now experiencing. Really look at the facts in the data. I mean, the bottom line is here in Michigan. Every valid vote will count and only valid votes will count. And we've got plenty of kick your protocols in place to make sure that that happens in fact, now after the first tabulation has been complete, really in Michigan, we're going to see Continue You updated upload of information at the county in statewide levels, But that tabulation is done. And now boards of the county and state level comprised of people from both parties will review the procedures and counts of the entire election before the results are certified officials So we've Got a lot of checks and balances built in the process for good reason into really insure. People can have faith in the results of the election, regardless of how they go there. There's the lawsuit. Of course, there are a few of them now happening in Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania. Where else? I'm not sure. But there'll be others. I'm sure With his suit, which was filed, according to Beth LeBlanc, in this morning's Detroit News, filed in Michigan's Court of Claims wants Michigan's count stopped quote until meaningful access has been granted to observe the process. I've been getting notes and letters from people who are saying that they tried to enter TCF Center and volunteer is a poll worker in any capacity needed, but they were saying that no one except the press they believe security and attorneys We're allowed entry. And and they also went on to say that when they tried when GOP members tried to challenge all of a sudden, the people said, Wait a minute. It's a 6 ft. Covert rule. You've got to get away from me. But they weren't doing that to everybody. And, of course, if you're wearing a mask, it's not the legal answer there about the coded the 6 ft. And how in the world can you challenge or observe if you can't get within 6 Ft. Of somebody doing the counting? Procedures in place for challengers all across the state has been well established a uniform all across the state. And you know, we issued directive prior to the election on that to protect everyone's health and safety, but also ensure that the ability to observe the process within place on DH, So I've said repeatedly word a moment here where we knew and always have known there would be attempts to sow seeds of doubt in the process in the integrity of our process on DH if people were unhappy with the results of the election So that is a lot of what we're seeing here, But I stand by our work. I stand by the voters. I stand by the hard work of our election administrators, which has been very transparent from the beginning, and you know any conversations through litigation, otherwise in the days ahead, are simply just going to continue to reveal that truth. I'm very confident in that on so I hope everyone will simply just look at the facts in the data and accurate information moving forward and recognized that we're still in a moment where people are going to try to spread Misinformation is a way to undermine the truth on DH. Really? What What occurred in Michigan is a reflection of the will of the voters. Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson with us on the pole over you, Smith, Sho W Jr and I guess another question I had was when they sue. Are they suing you? Are they suing the secretary of State's office or or or what? Yeah, People have have sued the state for various reasons. This is you know, as you mentioned, it's not just Michigan. This is unfortunately the escalation of the election litigation. Process has been really increased exponentially over the past election season on so we're you know, the attorney general in our office have been working together, took and make sure that we follow the law. We follow our secure protocols. We ensure transparency and all the rest. That's just important to me. Period on you. No way worked to ensure every ballot. Bout with counted by a pair of election workers, one from each majority party to prevent any political bias. So, ah, and a number of other secure protocols that were part of the reason why we took some time to ensure the account went smoothly and accurately. It's a bottom line, in my view is the public interest of the results of the election or an accurate reflection of the well of the people and I do hope that people respect that. However, we still got lots of Checks and balances in the processes I mentioned that will continue to review the procedures and counts just as we do in every election before they're sort of find official on network continues in the 13 days ahead, 12 now if
Frank Beckmann
When do the polls close in Texas?
"The polls close at 8 P.m.. More than three million voters in our state have already cast their ballots. Secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson says it's a records that's actually three times the number of people who voted absentee in November. 2016 eso quite extraordinary, and today I think we're on track to see record breaking turnout Overall, probably two million. Maybe more will head to the polls, and we want you to mask up. If you do and enjoy the
All Things Considered
'Dude, I'm Done': When Politics Tears Families And Friendships Apart
"Now you have likely seen it or felt it yourself. Now A recent survey shows how the nation's bitter political divide is taking a toll on friendships as NPR's Tuvia Smith reports with political polarization hitting a fever pitch. Even decades long relationships are caving under the pressure. It's been happening everywhere on social media, and in really life did straight up there. Dude, I'm done Lose my number that Shimada Davis from L. A. I just hung up on my end, and I proceeded to just block them in every possible way. Joanie Jensen from New York. I hate families, everything but I just don't know and Ricardo de Forest from Florida, there among the many Americans dumping friends over politics. It's one thing to disagree about tax policy, says Davis. But this is deeper. It's about morality and justice. As a black man. He says he simply could not abide his friend of 25 years down playing police brutality. It's like if this is your attitude. I don't respect you. Now I don't because people are really dying. It's also that kind of moral absolute to Jensen, retired professor and sexual assault survivor who cut off a friend of 40 years who was being cavalier about the allegations against Trump's then Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. He was going off flight. Oh, you drank the Kool Aid Cabin on boy. He didn't do anything. I said if this is his core ethics, I don't want that kind of person in my life Conservatives, Of course. Khun B. Justus, quick to spurn the liberals in their lives who clashed with their core values like life or the biggie for Ricardo de Forest Liberty. They sold our country out. This election is about the soul of what America is. He can be a free country. Andy, a socialist state to forest, a 61 year old steelworker cut off several cousins who he calls hard core Trump haters all they can do it. From the races on man bed on man raises, you know, blowing spittle in and veins popping out of their heads Yolk soy Latino, But I guess I'm some sort of horrible races because I like Trump. Ridiculous. We are seeing more political polarization today than at any point in modern history. Jocelyn Kiley, with the Pew Research Center says about 80% of Americans now have few or no friends across the aisle, and the animosity goes both ways. Democrats are a little bit more likely to say they'd end a friendship. But Republicans, maybe a little bit less likely to say they have friends on the other side, so it may not be all that differential. Everybody is doing this Tania Israel The University of California psychology professor runs workshops on cross the aisle conversations, she says. Both sides have big blind spots when it comes to the morality of their own side, and they all view themselves as eminently fair. And right. When I say all these things, I think I found fairly reasonable and see the other side as irrational. Just something wrong with these people. Whether conservatives like the forest or lefties like Joni Jensen, I said, Oh, my God, he really is brain. Wass. Everyone Tanya, Israel says could use a little more intellectual humility were flattening people out, you know, in terms of our view of them and not really seeing the full complexity of people on the other side. It's exactly what Georgia truck driver Jon Langford says his brother who's gay did to him. He went off on the sand. Essentially, I'm a racist and a homophobe. Just because I'm a trump supporter, knowif stands or butts. Ain't completely cut me out of his life, Langford says he's trying to not do the same and toe hang onto his friends. On the other side. I could assume that anybody that supports Biden is a firm believer that it's okay to murder a baby, but I don't From the other end of the political spectrum. Connecticut business consultant Jeff Maren Steen is also straining to stay friends with some trump supporters. Despite all the invective and insults, you know you live They're all the same or these ad hominem attacks. Maren Steen no longer talks to some of them with others. He just doesn't talk politics. It just feels like the healthiest thing for me to do at the moment. But, you know, I suppose the risk is that I'm just retreating into my own information bubble with people who think just like me. Indeed, experts say more conversation, not less is what's needed to heal the
Weekend Edition Saturday
Michigan bans open carry of guns at polling locations
"Benson says she will not allow gun owners to openly carry firearms. In or near polling places on Election Day. Michigan Public Radio's Rick Looter reports Michigan allows most adults toe openly carry firearms without getting a licence. But Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says it's her job to make sure people feel safe when they go to vote, and people with firearms could intimidate voters and poll workers. At least one gun rights group says that's unconstitutional, but it could be tough to litigate this close to the election. Back in the nation's capital. The
News, Traffic and Weather
Ex-wife, two teens arrested in alleged murder-for-hire plot in Bellevue, Seattle
"Tonight. We're learning more details in a shocking Bellevue murder for hire plot. Police say a woman promised to pay a teenage boy thousands of dollars to kill her ex husband. Know what 11 come, was tending to talk to the man who was shot nine times and survive. Married. That's right tonight. I talk to Baron Lee. And this is where he was shot nine times Now. He told me he is processing so many emotions right now. Relief anger disappointment, so he wasn't ready to do an interview tonight. But he told me he still cannot believe that he survived. The's court documents paint a deliberate and disturbing murder for hire scheme, Bellevue police say sharing Kelly hired a 17 year old boy to murder her ex husband, Baron Lee, and offered to pay the teenager $13,000 something like this is where It is rare on the day of the shooting in July. Police say the 17 year old got his friend to drive him to the Overlook at Lake Mont Apartments in Bellevue, where court documents say he was going to cap someone and empty the clip. Police say the 17 year old gunmen ambushed Lee, shooting him nine times The victim fell to the ground. The suspect stood over him and continued to fire, according to court documents. Lee said he couldn't think of anyone who would want to kill him besides his ex wife, saying they were in the midst of a very acrimonious custody battle that also included a financial motive for Kelly to have sole custody of their child. Detectives say Kelly even bought a GPS tracking device that was found under lease car. She purchased the GPS tracker and that was connected to the second suspect. There is evidence that she conspired to commit the murder. Now investigators tell us, they tracked down those two teenagers and Kelly using surveillance, video search warrants, soulful media and technology. She's expected back in court in the next few weeks back to you. All right, Jocelyn Bell tonight Thank you. Tammy.
Trivia With Budds
11 Trivia Questions on Schitt's Creek
"All Right Shits Creek Trivia, let's see if you know enough to be not up Shits Creek number one, the Rose Motel gets what new modified name on season. Four of the show question won the Rose Motel gets what new modified name on season four. Question number two, what musical family did Alexa claim she dated at the same time to get backstage passes to the teen choice awards number two, what musical family did Alexa claim she dated at the same time to get back stage passes to the teen choice awards. Question number three, which two characters on the show are brother and sister in real life number three, which do characters are brother and sister in real life. Question number four, Roland, and Jocelyn have an older son dates, Alexis. What is his name? Number? Four, Roland and Jocelyn have an older son who dates Alexis? What is his name? Question Number Five, what Song is Patrick Sing, for David, at an open mic number five, what Song Does Patrick. Sing for David at an open MIC. And Shits Creek number six, what's the name of the town realtor slash photographer number six? What's the name of the town realtors slash photographer? Question for what's the name of Moya's singing group number seven. What is the name of the singing group? That more up is a part of number seven? Question. Number eight what animal is featured in a movie moyer auditions for number eight, what animal is featured in a movie Moi rough auditions for. Question Nine. What is Bob's wife's name number nine? What is Bob's wife's name nine. And question number ten. What kind of business did the Rose family have before? They went bankrupt number ten. What kind of business did the Rose family have before? They went bankrupt? And for two points, what senior activity does Ted Valentin or to help with for two points at one point on the series? What senior activity does Ted Volunteer to help with?
The Amateur Traveler Podcast
Travel to Nebraska
"I like to welcome the show gene m from Nebraska, who has come to talk to us about her homestate Tino. Welcome to the show I. Thank you Chris and Gina I see from Nebraska. You'll live in Phoenix now. Does one ever get Nebraska out of their system after they move away so. Truly wants to Nebraska always. And Nebraska is one of only three states in the fifteen years the show we have not covered. So I've been really wanting to do this show I think for a while I have actually spent vacations in Nebraska. So why should someone go to Nebraska? Well, that is a great question and a lot of people when they hear I'm from Nebraska, asked me that question as well. So I think that the State Tourism Board. They just came out with a motto. That actually, maybe laugh the motto is Nebraska honestly it isn't for everyone. And so and then it goes into all of these awesome things that you can do Nebraska. But I think that someone who loves a good road trip likes to go off the beaten path maybe not as mainstream as some other areas that is who is going to love to go to Nebraska. Will and I should say that I have or have had at times for different podcasts and one of them was the passport travel marketing. NPR. PODCAST and if you go find that show, you can find an interview with the head of Nebraska tourism talking about that very motto in how It came about and and what they meant by it and that whole program. So. Excellent well, what kind of itinerary are you going to recommend for us? Well, I think that we should sorry in Omaha Nebraska which is the largest city you're gonna fly in here and you can fly pretty much any major airline into that airport. In also itinerary I should know is going to take place in the summer. So Nebraska has four seasons in the winter can be quite extreme and it's just not quite as fun. If you I mean it's beautiful but the weather is so extreme that I would definitely recommend during during the summer. So we're GONNA fly into Omaha, and we are going to stay in the old market area downtown. It's absolutely gorgeous. So you can go on some horsedrawn carriages you can see farmers markets on the weekends but. The main thing and Omaha is the Henner doorly zoo. So many times throughout the years it has been rated number one in the world and it's for good reason. So it has an aquarium that is also with the zoo and I truly don't think there's one thing there that is missing they are continuously I didn't on and I was actually just looking at the website and they actually have overnight experiences that families can do now which I think is really awesome. We're GONNA go to the zoo experienced that. Day event, they have this new sky fiery, they call it and it's Ski Lifts in the end it goes over and so you can see the animals from above and. If you get tired or if you just want a different view, just hop on that it is extra. It's only six dollars round trip though so I think it's been on it's pretty awesome. So some other things in Omaha to do there are many museums just to would be the Jocelyn Art Museum the Durham Museum I. Know Museums aren't everybody's saying but just the architecture in those buildings absolutely gorgeous. Just sue a walk through or go have coffee nearby absolutely gorgeous at the Joslyn Art Museum and what was the second one? And both really affordable to get into the Durham's eleven dollars for admission and the Josh Art Museum my impression is is that it's it's a fine art museum rather than a modern, Art Museum yes. Yeah. Okay and then the Durham is more of like it goes through exhibits on immigration and who settled into Omaha and the construction of the transcontinental railroad, which is really important throughout Nebraska's history kind of more of those type of things.
Rush Limbaugh
Michigan election workers needed during coronavirus crisis
"Pull workers were in such shorts of play across the state that Governor Whitmer and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson are encouraging state employees to help out with the primary because of fears about the Corona virus. Elderly poll workers are not showing up the governor and the secretary of state or asking them to consider vacation days or leaves of days because of the shortage. The request comes as clerks prepare for an increased number of absentee ballots, double or triple the usual amount.
AP News Radio
New coronavirus tests set for Britain
"The British government says it will soon start issuing coronavirus tests with a quicker turnaround Boris Johnson's advises same results of the new tests should arrive in just ninety minutes the technology can tell whether someone has committed nineteen over another sickness such as the flu or other seasonal respiratory viruses one of the tests analyzes swab of saliva samples well the other focusing on DNA uses a machine to give results without the need to send them to a lab Jocelyn this month London
AP News Radio
UK scraps quarantine for some visitors as pubs set to reopen
"Britain is taking big steps out of lockdown with the reopening in England of restaurants pubs and headdresses along side opening up of international travel when pubs and restaurants reopen on Saturday for the booking to socialize over drinks it will be anything but business as usual locations will have to take contact details for each group of people could only socialize with one of the house sold at the time also the B. about on queuing up the ball and reduced capacity with patrons told to stay at least three feet apart prime minister Boris Johnson's message he wants people to enjoy the summer sensibly and make sure it all works while we travel the government is scrapping a requirement for people arriving from dozens of countries to spend fourteen days in isolation but US citizens I'm not on the list for now Jocelyn this month under
Glenn Beck
Dallas - Amber Alert issued for 7-month-old from Irving
"An amber alert has been issued for seven month old serenity berry of Irving authorities believe she's with her mother thirty five year old Jocelyn Nicole bridges she's believed to be driving a blue two thousand eleven Ford focus with a Texas license plate number of M. P. G. eighty six forty two serenity is believed to be in grave or immediate
Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry
"Rogue Secretary of State" Jocelyn Benson
"In two thousand eighteen Jocelyn Benson was elected as secretary of state in Michigan. It was part of a historic sweep. Where women were also elected to the governorship and to the Attorney General's office then the corona virus hit and Donald Trump went on the warpath personally attacking governor. Whitmer as she fought to get her citizens access to needed medical equipment. Well now he's also attack. Jocelyn calling her a rogue secretary of state for her plan to make sure all Michigan voters can apply to get an absentee ballot. This fall keeping them safe from the virus and ensuring everyone has a chance to vote. Jocelyn joined us to talk about the monumental importance of voting rights in the age of trump and the corona virus. This year we saw the. You're the woman. Two Point Gretchen. Whitmer Dana Nessel Jocelyn Benson Debbie Stamina and the list goes secretary of state of the Great State of Michigan. Four four my duties to invest in my abilities regard. Help me guys. The Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says. She sees nothing wrong with paper ballots. Secretary of state says the voter absentee ballot. Applications are great way for voters to vote in coming elections without risking their. How ahead of a planned visit to Michigan Tomorrow? President trump is targeting the leaders of the state on twitter president trump on Wednesday threatened to withhold federal funding to Michigan after the state announced that all of the states registered. Voters would receive applications for absentee ballots in the mail this year. Benton Secretary of State of Michigan on fighting every day to ensure that every voice is heard and every vote is counted. Sorry not sorry first of all. Thank you so much for doing this. I really really appreciate it. It's interesting because you have a job that I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what you do as secretary of State in Michigan. You're responsible for overseeing elections. But can you give my listeners? Really an overview of what that entails. And just broadly what? The job secretaryastate position in most states overseas democracy and that means everything from money in politics and regulating promoting disclosure of bat to the actual act of casting a ballot and making sure those votes are counted accurately protecting the security of the process. Anything that goes into ensuring that our democracy runs well flows lows through each state secretary of State and from your perspective. What is the biggest threat to our democracy? And you can do that. Broadly but you can also do that in Michigan. Well Yeah I always say that. A healthy democracy requires an engaged. An informed electorate and so in that way biggest threat is disengaged and misinformed electorate. I think you need both. You need everyone. Voting particular especially systems of underrepresented communities whose voices has historically been at the table and decisions. That are made them. But you also need to to be informed about all the aspects of an issue that they can make independent decisions about what's best for them. We're having our communities so to me really. You need people. Running the system secretaries of state and we need elected representatives who all kind of flow into that any neighbouring and encourage engagement and Commission. Of course the media as well but if you poke short on either of those two metrics those two pieces than democracy is threatened and. I think that's some of what we are seeing today where you have in some cases. Low turnout or disengagement or feeling of apathy or. My vote doesn't matter. My voice doesn't matter which is the exact opposite of which real and democracy or people not having access to accurate information about the decisions that are being made note decision makers that are making them can hold them accountable. We here and we've heard a lot about Michigan this cycle. So what makes it so important in this election besides the Electoral College? And how did it become a battleground? These chicken is a collection of voters that really reflects the entire country in many ways certainly in the Midwest and you've got a very diverse population we've got the largest concentrations for example Arab American voters in the country. We've got strong urban areas with unique stories and history like Detroit and Flint and high levels of communities of color growing Tino population and then a lot of the state is very rural. And so the racial demographics. The economic demographics -cation you have also right next to Detroit. One of the wealthiest per capita community in the country and they got in some ways integregation and many of the problems that afflict and having the country historically are reflected in Michigan. There's a great thing I saw when I personally hear when Michigan accuses the whole country gets a cold that in some ways is a bellwether state. Her a lot of different things is that because of the people because of history because of the community that can indicate how rest of the country like feeling going and attention on our state certainly over the past ten years when it comes to presidential elections. Really underscored that.