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Skins' Players in Top 100 and Is Leonsis Telling Truth?

The Kevin Sheehan Show

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Skins' Players in Top 100 and Is Leonsis Telling Truth?

"You want it. You need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show. Now, here's Kevin. I am here. Aaron sear this show is presented by window nation. If you're in the market for windows, call eight six ninety nation or go to win donation dot com and tell them that we told you to call lots of wizard stuff with Ben standing coming up. We'll get to the nets and we'll get to a list of the top one hundred players in the NFL and where the Redskins rank on that particular list. But I start with this. It's June nineteenth, and whenever it's June nineteenth, and I know that it's June nineteenth. It brings back the memory of one thing, I and many others. Remember what happened on June nineteenth? Nineteen eighty six thirty three years ago today, it was Len biases death from cocaine intoxication. It was one of the saddest days, I can ever remember and it was the most impactful athl-. Fleet death of my lifetime. I believe it came to nights after he was selected by the Celtics at number two overall in the NBA draft. And Len bias, the death was as much because of what he looked like as what he was on the basketball court. He was a strapping six eight specimen of human being anyone that saw him play. You were struck by the body that he had he was chiseled from stone, he appeared to be unbreakable. And it was that is much as it was. Again the greatness city was as a basketball player that he had as a basketball player on the court, it was the look of him the physical freak that he was that made his death at twenty two years old. Soc shocking, how could somebody that looked like Len bias die from cocaine? Use remember was the height of the eighties. It was the height of cocaine being EV. Everywhere I went to Maryland. I was on that campus. I was in bars. I was at parties dorm rooms apartments around campus. It was everywhere even if you didn't use it, it was everywhere. Len bias died from it him. It wasn't possible. It didn't seem possible. His shocking death in everything that happened as a result of his death. It's hard to forget, you know, Aaron you weren't alive for this right now. Three months later, three months later, you were born really so ever born in September of nineteen Eighty-six. Yes. God, you're young. It was a national story, a national obsession, it became a few weeks after his death, the US house of representatives began writing anti-drug legislation as a direct result of his death, the anti-drug abuse act of nineteen eighty six which was signed into law by President Reagan in. October of eighty six came in was inspired by lend biases death. It made the consequences for distributing drugs, that cause someone to die, much more severe, like life sentences for people who distributed drugs, if a death resulted from the use of those drugs, those provisions were often referred to as the Len bias, law, it was that, that height of the war on drugs. Nancy, Reagan's war on drugs. Just say, no stiffer penalties. Mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses. Mostly inspired by the death of Len bias at all also launched. And I didn't know this, it launched the initiative of drug free zones for schools, Len bias, you, you have to understand the time he was larger than life. College basketball was super popular in the eighties much more so than it really is today. It was. Basketball, the regular season the tournament it was big time. It was more popular in the eighties than the NBA was it wasn't close. Really? And he was the reigning two-time ACC player of the year. And I team all American, the country, not just the D, C area or ACC country. The United States was shocked by his death. It was a huge national story in the country's leaders reacted with action. The fallout at Maryland was unbelievable. It was basically over for the athlete department bias. It was found out that bias was twenty one credit credits. Short of graduating despite having been at Maryland for four full years. Remember back, then you stayed for years, more times than not, no matter how great you were, he would have been a top five pick after his sophomore year. And he stayed for his junior and senior years. His final semester, he earned no academic credits. He failed three courses he withdrew from two others. And this prompted a free fall of high profile people in the athlete department namely lefty drizzle, who was forced to resign seventeen years head coach of being the head coach, there was forced to resign in part because the state's attorney at the time stated that in the hours following biases death. Lefty told players to go to his room and remove any drugs from his room. This was later found to be false, but this was part of the narrative, then, and it would people are looking for the fall guy and lefty, became the fall guy in the bias in the bias death in my in my view unfairly, so biased by the way, the greatest player in the history of Maryland basketball for me, one Dixon won a title but bias is still. The number one player in Maryland basketball in my view. He was a physical freak. He was a competitive bad ass. He had the smoothest jump jump shot you've ever seen. He could jump out of the gym. He dunked so violently that it became he became a highlight reel for anybody. Doing sports anywhere in this country he had his head often above the rim. You rarely saw that back then you saw with Dominique Wilkins, and Leonard was the next of that generation he was dunking with his head level. The rim is artisan, good on people his steel, and backwards dunk in the Carolina game in February of nineteen eighty six and the dean dome led Maryland's upset of then number one North Carolina. It was dean Smith's first loss in that building, he went for thirty five eleven rebounds and four blocks. In one of the most memorable Maryland winds of all time in one of the greatest perform. Eminences of his career lefty, always referred to lend by his Lenat Leonard and he called him a warrior after that game. He said that it was a warrior. He took Kenny Smith shot Layton overtime and through it and that was game over people. Don't remember this that, that game is a memorable game in the in the history of Maryland. Basketball, Maryland would be Carolina two weeks later in the ACC tournament again when Carolina may have been like the number three or number four team in the country at that point, and Maryland entered the nineteen eighty six NCWA tournament as a hot team as one of those trendy picks to get to the final four bias was the player two-time player of the year for steam all American people thought that he was good enough to strap that team to his back and carry it to the final four. They had beaten Carolina twice over the final month of the season. And in the final game of. His career which turned out to be one of his better games of his career against UNLV in the second round, Maryland, was favored as the five seat over the four seed. They were two point favorite in that game to beat UNLV in advance to what would have been their third straight, Sweet Sixteen during the bias era. He went for thirty one points, twelve rebounds, Maryland, was eleven down early in the second half. They came back. They took an eight point lead but they couldn't hold on and UNLV won the game. And it was devastating when they lost that game Aaron you remember the Michigan state Vasquez game. And that's one of the all time, hurts as Maryland fan because ended so suddenly and the path was there for them to get to the final four if they won the game. And a big part of it was that was it for Vasquez. That was it for his career. And when they lost the UNLV in a game that they seem to be headed towards a win. They were up eight. Through the second half and they would have played Auburn in the Sweet Sixteen and they would have been favored, more likely than not in that game. They would have had a legit shot to work their way towards the final four, which by the way would have been huge to see bias continue to play. But his in Maryland basketball fan, the thought that this may have been the shot for lefty, too. 'cause they're so many previous opportunities came up short. But it was a devastating loss. It just I'll never, forget the way I felt when that game ended it was a major gut punch. The season was over biases career was over, and it seemed and so suddenly in so short of what the potential was that year pretty much like his life, actually which ended way too soon. We missed out on what I think would have been an incredible pro-career. He looked the part he was a fierce competitor. He was going to be on a marquee team. You know the Celtics. With Larry Bird and Maceio and perish in DJ age beyond what he was going to likely be as an individual player. He would have also had his greatness wrapped up into the fabric of a of a marquee franchise. The Boston Celtics, many say that he was Jordan. I never felt that way. I always felt that he was Dominic that he was Dominique Wilkins. He was not a two guard. He was a small forward who could have been moved to the power for the four at times. Michael Jordan was a true to guard shooting guard. Len bias was six eight was a small forward, brilliant. Power forwards body. He would have been a highlight reel guy, like Jordan was and like Dominique Wilkins, was he always reminded me more of Dominique Wilkins, than Michael Jordan. He would score twenty plus a game. He would rebound it. He would block shots, and he would have been, you know. He would have created, you know, two to three plays every night that would have been breathtaking that you would have seen on every sports gassed, you know after the game, but all of that is just projecting because we never got the chance to see it thirty three years ago. It's amazing. That is career today would have been fifteen to twenty years completed at this point. I mean, if he were still alive today, his NBA career would've been over fifteen to twenty years ago. That's crazy. The way time flies. So anyway, there was a lot of wizards news since yesterday show in, as I mentioned, Ben standings, gonna join us shortly to discuss all of it needless to say from my standpoint, Ted Leonsis statement to the Washington Post that the reports of the teams interest, in messiah Jiri, the Toronto GM, Ted set are simply not true. That's very hard to believe offer a lot of reasons. Lookie talked about this being the best available job in all of sports yet. Here we are one day from the NBA draft in less than two weeks away from free agency, and they don't have a GM, so the logical answer, come on is that they were waiting on you Jiri and he didn't want the job. So we'll get to all of this with Ben in a few minutes, and then Ben will also share with us some of his mock draft. Remember he finished first in a national NFL mock draft contest. And he's in one, I believe with his NBA Madre. So he will join us shortly the net Scott rained out. Again last night. I don't know. It seemed like they could played the game last night. It looks like it was pouring at the stadium every time, they cut to it by okay? It didn't really rain much in Rockville. But apparently at the same every time I was looking at the videos and stuff goes porn there. Well I mean this series is now been shortened at least by one game there's a scheduled doubleheader today. They'll play the last game tomorrow. The game that was rained out last night has been rescheduled for September. At some point, but there's rain in the forecast all day today and tonight and tomorrow. You know, here's the thing. I've heard a lot of conversation. I sat in with Tony this morning too. And, you know, there's been a lot of conversation about how you avoid this and should places that are real humid, that have all of these showers and thunderstorms us all the time during summer should, they have maybe a retractable roof? So you don't miss out on these opportunities. Don't they always play pretty much every game you know, by the time we get to the end of September and the end of the regular season, they've played one hundred sixty one or one hundred sixty two of them pretty much every year. Sure. So they'll figure out a way to get these games in I'm guessing we'll get it in. But doubleheaders lose revenue. Yeah, that's true. That's, that's a fair point. Although God, I mean doubleheaders I, I remember the first double header. I ever went to Aaron the Oakland Athletics. The Oakland A's at the Baltimore Orioles at memorial stadium. My father took me to a double header at memorial stadium and the doubleheaders back then were not. You know, day-night they were you the first game started at five thirty to admit to games for wanted miss. Yeah. And it was a true double header back to back games in God. I mean I missed those I missed the scheduled doubleheaders. Yeah. That was that was a big deal. I remember being appeal to a double header. All right. 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And by the way, I haven't been a massive fan of the sky over the years. It's not that I don't like them. I just haven't always felt. Like, you know, whatever he's written or said is connected with me. But Pete prescribe been a longtime NFL writer and with CBS sports for several years now and he came out yesterday with his list of the top one hundred NFL players of twenty nineteen now NFL dot com will start this process winner, next month, usually, they do their countdown at a top hundred. Yeah. And they do it in increments of ten over ten weeks leading up to the regular season. I think it's that's the way that. So Pete, I go put his out, I guess, in advance of this top one hundred players of twenty nineteen Aaron Donald by the ways his number one player in the league. Patrick Mahomes, number two, Aaron Rodgers three von Miller. Four Khalil Mack five then comes Brady Julio Jones, de'andre Hopkins. Bobby Wagner, JJ watt. There's your top ten so you know, this was one of the things I was looking through earlier this morning, and I'm looking going through the whole countdown. I'm looking for all right. Brandon sheriff's gotta be in here news. Trent Williams in here. Maybe John, Allen's gonna make this. We'll certainly Landon Collins is going to make this list. He just got the biggest deal in the history of the league for safety, not one Redskin, is in Pete Prisco top one hundred so take it for what it's worth, it's one guy's opinion. I will be I'll be interested to see because the NFL dot com list is a players list the players vote on that list. I believe that's that's accurate. I'm pretty sure that when we've done this in talked about that list on, on NFL dot com. NFL network. It's always been a player voted list. This one is one guy's opinion in Pete prescribe CBS sports dot com, doesn't have one Redskin in the top one hundred in the NFL the names, I just mentioned Landon Collins, Trent Williams, Brandon sheriff, I would have thought would have had a shot to be in it. Trent Williams is certainly been on this list on the NFL dot com list for many years in a row, Ryan Kerrigan's made the list before now he did have a list of sort of others, receiving votes or as he calls. It just missed list. And on that list Trent Williams was there and Jon Allen was there. But still, no Landon Collins on that list. In the top one hundred tell me, how many safeties are on that listener believable, seven. Are there seven safeties better than the highest paid safety in the NFL? This point. I according to him according to him there are. So let's go through the safeties that he's got on this particular list the first one he has. I think Jamal Adams at number thirty six. Yeah. All right. So Jamal Adams is a hell of a player Harrison Smith from the Vikings is forty four on this list Harrison Smith is a really good player. Is he better than Landon Collins Derwin James should have been the Redskins pick a year ago? He's on this list after his sensational rookie season at forty seven I would say that he is better than Landon Collins the next player on the lists Kevin buyer in Tennessee. Is he better than Landon Collins, I don't think so. Next up on this list, I'm getting I trust me. I'm not actually legitimately upset at Jackson. It'd be next. Eddie Jackson's on the list at sixty seven and then you have. Eric weddell. I like Eric Weddell, but the ravens didn't like him enough to keep them, and Eric Weddell now is what thirty four years old enough there. So where was Weddell? What was he? Where was where did he come in? Number wise, Waddell, was seventy six. Okay. So I think that's your six that were on the list of one hundred then on the jest missle list he had Earl Thomas who's a raven now. And he had Devin mccourty, and he had Malcolm Jenkins, any Ajan Johnson, the ram safety, so he's got ten safeties ranked ahead of land accounts, maybe more. I would have thought that Landon Collins would have been on this list. I'm surprised to at least make the others receiving votes, I'm very surprised get. I'm not truly. It's one person's opinion. I'm not worked up about it. But I do think that it speaks to this larger point and that is the expectations of this Redskin team for twenty nineteen. Th somebody sent me something where somebody predicted the Redskins would go to and fourteen did you see this? I guess, now I don't know if it was somebody of, you know, somebody noteworthy but I don't know if they're two and fourteen team, I think that the numbers right in Vegas at six and a half. That's a good over under number for this team. But I personally think that, that, that, that Landon Collins a top one hundred player in a top five certainly safety in the NFL and he doesn't have him in the top ten safeties in the league. And I would hope that this time next year like if we're being, you know, if we think that they've done well dry. Grafting here recently then next and making moves in this particular off-season, then next year the list should have Jon Allen on it, it should have landing Collins on it, it should have Brandon sheriff on it. I hope it has Montas sweat on. It seemed Salk a couple of second year players on this list. Maybe hey, Jordan Reed stays healthy. Maybe he makes his way back to a list like this Trent Williams reports. He makes his way back to a list like this. The Redskins do have players with enough talent to eventually make this kind of list. That's the one good thing you know that you can say about this football team. Specially it relates to the defense. They've got some talent. They've got players that you could see being on top one hundred list Jon Allen, Doron, pain, Landon Collins, Montas sweat. And then offensively Trenton Jordan Reed, Brandon share for all potential guys that could land on. That list next year. Hopefully this time next year. I'm telling you about Pete Prisco's top one hundred breakdown, his list, and all of those Redskins are on. That means they would have had a really good year. The Redskins really are not getting any, any respect, they are an afterthought, for virtually everybody outside of this town. And that's why they didn't end up on hard knocks the raiders are much more interesting story than the Redskins right now. I could see though I could see defensively, you know, some of those names, making their way onto a list like VAT, a year from now, and I'm surprised genuinely surprised at Landon, Collins isn't on that list right now, I think he is again, for those of you that say, I'm always negative. I liked the signing of Landon Collins, I did say that it was expensive, but I liked it. I thought it was a good signing for this team. It was a need. He's a quality guy by all accounts. And he's been he's been boasting a ton since he signed with the Redskins and telling everybody about how great, he's going to be, and how great the team's going to be. I don't like that part of it, but he is, by all accounts a first rate locker room guy and a really good player. And I think we saw how good he can be in his first few years in New York. All right. Let's bring in Ben standing who writes for, and be sports Washington and was the NFL mock draft champion back in April. He's got his NBA mock draft ready to go. We're going to go through that. But of course, he's been covering the wizards for years for a lot of different outlets including his own. And I wanna start there with, you know, where they are on this GM search and the story this morning, in the post with Ted's, you know, a statement. I mean, Ted mayday statement about the comments and the I'm sorry, the stories in. And rumors regarding messiah Jiri and he said any reports that we have interest messiah Jiri as a candidate are simply not true. And we've never planned in any way to ask for permission to speak to him during our process. Do you believe him? Well, since I was one of the people that put this out there, I think I mentioned, a potential wizards messiahs year connection on April thirtieth, I guess I have to say I don't fully in the fence that I've been reporting. So I'm not I don't have any reason to go again. What I was told threat weeks. And then at the end few days ago, reported the idea of this potentially big offer, and eight and watching Ascii from ESPN. And also the athletic have said have essentially said the same thing. Here's my thing. Let's just say let's take the owner add his word, you know, great. He said, there's never been any interest. Well, then what are we doing? This is my question. Because find they fired Grunfeld on April seconds a decision that people had no real issue with he'd been there. For sixteen years. The words are coming off a poor season etcetera. Then they are hiring outside consultant to presumably bring in other candidates to me for the job. They interviewed a few people, including Troy Weaver, and Danny ferry twice along with the interim head time shepherd. But that was like six weeks ago, then a couple of weeks later, they'd met with Denver, president of basketball, obstinate Connolly, he decided to stay with. They made him an offer. He decided to stay with the nuggets. No harm. No foul and kudos to the withered forgoing aggressively after a guy who's up and coming off the decorative. But that's been nearly a month ago. Now I haven't been had an issue at all with the wizard waiting right? I don't have the last guy was for sixteen years, waiting extra weeks. It's not that big of a deal. But the question would be what was the plan? And it seems if the plan was to wait out, somebody who is still playing who seen was still going, I e messiah Jiri, that would make some logical sense, ignore the fact whether it'd be a long shot to even get him but okay, fine. You're waiting. But now the owner says, no, no, no that, that wasn't the case. Great. And then what is the case? What are you waiting for? He also said, in the same statement to the Washington Post, that he wasn't going to make any front office changes until after star. Phrasing. See, when did that why are we just learning this now? Why did we find this out several weeks ago, I was told by agents leading into the pre-draft process. They wouldn't send their clients to Washington, for workouts because they didn't know who was making the decision. Don't we think that that would have been clarified by if you'd makes this statement several weeks ago, if nothing has changed in recent days or weeks. Why wha what is what is the what's the issue if he's real plan was to wait to be patient to go potentially punts offseason. Why didn't you just say that up front, if that was the plan, but he didn't until yesterday after these messiah Jiri reports became you know, incredibly front and center after? Well, it's throw it out there. So I don't know to me, the whole thing is very curious. I've given the benefit of the data from the waiting, I said, I don't have an issue with per se. But it's becoming harder and harder to see what the plan is. And that's why to me like this nothing even more uncertainty now than there was previously. Yeah, let's not forget that he called this, the best available or open job in all of sports one that, you know, would would be would create, you know, a lot of interest from a lot of high quality people and to your point. They haven't even brought in that many of those, this is this is pretty transparent to me. He you know, it's a conversation that we've had you reported, you know, we got the wo- dot com the night that the, the raptors won the title, there's too much smoke around this, in too much, that makes sense that he's been waiting all along to make a move for somebody in the NBA finals. And that somebody, you know, I think is messiah Jiri. I agree with you. And I just wonder Tommy's position is that perhaps with the reporting. Came out quickly after the NBA finals on Thursday night had finished that perhaps he was slapped down a little bit in threatened with tampering charges. Do you think that there's potential truth in that? Well I mean I don't know this based on my own reporting. So I can't say definitively if you just wanna throw out, well, what are the potential logical explanations for this? I mean, certainly something like that would make sense. It's also possible that they have already found out that massage eerie, ultimately doesn't want to what doesn't want this. And this is a way to say face from what I've gathered part of this. You is the wizards, you know, don't want to look like they struck out for a second time having already offered to Tim Connolly. Now my the very first report, I put out there in April was not about the winners interest in Metairie. It was about his interest in Washington DC, meaning that they're yeses B team in the city, but also for his outside interests political interests. What have you? That would be a bigger platform than Toronto, and that would be a potential to him. Also hit wife, what the high school in the area, and so on. So, you know, to me, the, you know similar to Connolly. Who was from this area. The idea of this being an interesting job. I to me seems pretty clear. But look, he wanted NBA title that could easily change the person's opinions a lot of motions going to that. So I wouldn't begrudge it of one zero thought, hey, I would be interested in this. And then says out man, I can't leave even if co Leonard Toronto I feel pretty good. That's right. So what you by the way, what you just said. There's a lot of, of logic in that in that Ted waited this out. He wanted you Jiri didn't necessarily think that you Jerry in the raptors would win the title and he'd have to wait so long, but that there was at least on Ted's parts, some sense that you Jerry might be interested in this and he was holding out hope that he could really hit a home run with the higher. But the further, they went in the fact that they actually won it all, perhaps resulted in Jiri, not being interested in the job in wanting to stay in Toronto that makes sense to me. Yeah. And that's that, that does make sense. And I guess my question is look. I, I am not Kevin breaking news. I'm not a guy who runs a billion dollar corporation, and I don't know what the pressures are dealing with that. And then you have all this PR stuff. Need to deal with it and work around. That's all real stuff. But it just I don't quite understand the song and dance it, you know, it's no, it's no harm. No foul to show interest into making aggressive move the wizard stood Pat for years, and people could understand. Why are they saying with her any Grunfeld great? So now they're taking big wings, a we really like I mean, honestly, what is the what is it? What's the issue an owner went to, to hire the best? He possibly could. He said the best people would potentially get this or be interested in this he having conversations and having people say, look, I appreciate it. But this isn't the right time for me is not a crime. So I don't get why we can't just say this was happening now granted, he maybe can't say until Toronto gives permission and maybe try to never does. And then he has to say, well, we hope to talk to him that didn't work out. So now we're gonna go figure. Else out. But we have confidence. I, I don't get why would just say that this is what this is why in my view, Ted loves to talk about patients in poise in, you know, and in perseverance and, and being, you know, pursuing this in a very business oriented way, you know with with, you know, a plan and, and a rollout, schedule in and things to knock off one at a time, you know, or real, you know, diligence involved in this because, you know, he feels this is what you have to do, when he smarter than most people in his own mind. And he is because he was a founder of AOL, which he actually wasn't a founder of a well, but he was an instrumental part of AOL's growth in and he's always had this, this, this patients this composure this, this restraint on on being impulsive and. By the way, it's been convenient to be that way. Because the football owner in towns, always been so impulsive. And it hasn't worked out so he's been the opposite of that in this stoicism sort of attached to it. You know in the way he's he speaks in the way he presents if it results in him, not looking smart. Well, this paints more than anything else. So you had to have a conclusion here when you didn't get you Jiri for him that said, well, we weren't interested in you Jerry were continuing to be patient. We're going to approach is the way we approach everything by not being impulsive to think through every possibility to make sure as he said, I intend to create a leadership team when it feels exactly right and is in alignment with our findings in our final develop specifications. You know, it's like the these these long phrased answers to things he can't. It come out on the other end looking like somebody completely stiffed or somebody said, I'm not in on what you, you're creating especially after we call it the best available open job in sports. This is why we have. I think the answer we have today because if the answer was we were interested, and it's just not gonna work out. He looks bad and doesn't look like the smartest guy in the room. I mean look, I, I can't sit here in refu- things you just said. And I totally your and, and this is sort of my point of this sort of thing, let's take him for as word that they're missing the stuff. We all got it wrong hypothetically. Whoa. Gotta wrong. They've Aldridge Fred Katz myself. We all got it wrong bull, then. Okay. But what has been happening for the last month, right? Since Connolly, the entire NBA is available to speak with as far as I know or anybody's reported. They haven't met with any actual candidates. Other candidates who were could be brought in, you know, got got signed up by other places. What's the what's the hold up? And like I said, why not make this point months ago? Hey, we really are being serious really are going to take our time, and we're gonna let time shepherd run the draft and run for agency. Right. We're confident that he the job, I notably. We made the side he's the guy but the just say. But since they didn't say that. And, and these other reports have come out, it's just confusing as to what the plan was. So, and that's the point for me. Again, I don't have an issue with the waiting and look openly depending who they hire it may be great. He waiting. They have been the exact same thing, a couple years from now three years, whatever we may look back and think, wow. Remember when we were all freaking out that the wizards didn't have GM, but right now we sit here today. It's hard to figure this out and mind you it isn't just the draft. That's just one pick Tommy Sheppard can make that call. There is a lot to discuss this offseason. They only have like five guys under contract right now. Are they keeping Bradley Beal are they trading Bradley Beal, which of their own free agents do they want to retain, or go, what outside free agent, so they interested in are they signing guys with to make a playoff push next year? Or are they taking this year, sort of? Well, we'll get we'll fix things up year. We'll take our time signed guys to one or two year deals at the most will be patient with John wall coming off injury and set ourselves. For an interesting twenty twenty summer, I'm sure, they've had these discussions, but it's hard to know what the plan, and by the way, is Tommy Sheppard just the interim for the whole year. If that's the case. How does that shape his decision making processes to try to well to try to win impress, wh where is he in this time the guy, I'm, I'm calm. I'm cool from base everything I've no and talk to people if he gets the job. But, you know, even that is the interim packed like a weird way to go for the year. I would give him the job flat out, but that would be me. Look, his plan was to have somebody, the fact that he doesn't means now he's trying to explain to everybody that is plan was never to necessarily have somebody at this point. And with respect to shepherd one of his quotes, was a long winded quotes was quote, as I have said, we will likely use many hands make light work is a mantras. We seek to establish a new organizational construct that is in line with what the future of the NBA will. Look like creating a shared platform on health sciences. Data analytics venue, management skills, training, etc. For all of our basketball franchises closed quote, that when you talked about this being when he talked about this being the best open job in sports, that is not in alignment with that, quote, the many hands make light work, quote. So look, he shifting. He he shifting the goal line right now, which is fine. And maybe it'll work out for him. But to your point were probably at this point going to get Tommy shepherds influence along with Scott Brooks's influence. I don't know maybe zach's influence in a draft that takes place Thursday night in a decision about Bradley Beal potential free agents and rounding out a roster that basically, as you said, is one third filled with respect to actual players under contract. No. I mean there's there's a lot in play. And, you know, like I said, I mean, not the key myself, but waiting to me, not the issue just what's the plan. I you know it's hard Cincinnati. And the interesting also saying, I guess, is became out as hard as to say that there was no, there's never been any interest in going to Jerry. I mean one possible scenario here. I'm getting this point of speculating, but look at my side here. He's got a big question for himself is Leonard staying in Toronto. If hundred stays in Toronto. Nobody would of course he's gonna stay logically. Why wouldn't you get a chance to run back Golden State looks to be, you know, a shell of self after the Durant, and Klay Thompson injuries Toronto would argue be the favorite to win a set to win the NBA title. So, of course, he would say he needs to know that with coli is going to stay, and we can debate, whether quiet, people just assume you've leaving. But if he wants to wait, that's fine. But if. Quiet leaves and messiah that point. Okay. Now, I am open to to looking for Ted has now come out and stated the owner say that they have never shown any interest in hiring him. So now what if this actually would've come up, we're going backwards? So I don't know. It's just it's just confusing. Maybe maybe there's like, you know, fifth level chess happening above my head that I can't see because based on the simple logic. It's just hard to figure out right now. What the planet I mean like you said, I get what I get what you're saying. Right. But it just like I'm trying to trying to hear the words trying to, you know, not interpret my own assumptions into, and it's just hard to figure out what the actual plan is based on the words and actions coming out of their to other things to get to our one thing to get to. And then your, your mock draft, the woken, arouse ski report about Bill, which came out, I guess very, very late last night early this morning. He, he tweeted out everybody in the league is tried to get it Bradley Beal. They are not trading him. He's eligible. For three year one hundred eleven million dollar extension later in July. Right now, I'm told it's the team's intention to offer that up to him and try and keep moving forward with Beal. What are you hearing as it relates to Bradley Beal? I heard anything that definitive but logically, that certainly makes sense, my point threat this so part, I, I would not trade, Bradley Beal, if I could avoid it right at two years, left on his contract in NBA terms, twenty six million years. A good bargain for for player of his level, and even the sending towns to time all star, and look, the wizards have nothing else right now with John wall injured. The owner has stated last January that this team will never ever tank. I don't think rebuilding tanking. But if you trade Bradley Beal that you're from perception angle, you're closer tanking. Then you're not so. Okay. So you wanna keep Bradley Beal, the problem is what if Bradley Beal's decides he doesn't want to stay here? Now he doesn't have to have to make that decision. Anytime soon. But one way to sort of test the water is to offer him an extension. And if he says, no, maybe that doesn't mean he won't eventually signed one, maybe he needs to see more from this organization. But at the same point, if he says, yes, then you have a lot more clarity as to what your future holds. And so to me, give me look, the money's crazy, the wizards would have a ton of money invested in him in wall. But, you know that that's where they're at this point. So I wouldn't have an issue if they did offer him the extension. They arguably probably should. But it will at least give them some clarity, if he actually depending on what his answer is, especially obviously. Yes. But even if he says, no, they had that point. Maybe do look more at trade possibilities because of next year. The faculty law season, then you only have one year left on beals, if you're going to trade him, but that point you're going to get less value than you would now. So I would do my best to keep him. But I do think the the extension talk helps clarify the situation. Look at the very least they should be. Be trying to value. Wait, the deals that could potentially be out there. I think it'd be irresponsible not to do that. There could be a blockbuster deal an offer that you can't turn down it. Let's assume that they, they move forward with Beal on the roster. Even without a true general manager and place. Do you think they will be aggressive trying to fill the auto porter slot or I guess, it's the Jabari Parker spot and try, try to make a move or three and free agency. So what about Al Horford? Oh, no. I don't want another while finished Kevin. I can't I can't I can't handle that. Well, so here's the thing on this one, right? The, the owner has made it clear in the past, or at least we can sort of interpret, as based on his, his comments that making the playoff from revenue standpoint is important, right? You get those, those home playoff games or big deal. So making I mean that's why it feels like the wizards sort of didn't fully Paul last year. They kept Trevor easing Jeff green because they still had an outside hope of making the playoffs obviously, it didn't work out. I think it's important to remember in the thirty five games after John wall was ruled out for the season. The wizards one game under five hundred despite the fact that they have all out, Martine Morris is hurt entertain that stretch traded away auto porter. But with Bradley building a lead and sort of Molly around him they hung in there, so you could hypothetically believe that if the wizards effectively brought back the same team, you know, resigned time Bryant she Thomas Santa Ranchi, you know, maybe Jeff green, you know, you know you draft this. Guy at nine at somebody that maybe Dwight Howard, whenever you think of him could be back. You know that team gets you in the mix for the eighteenth. I'm not saying that they should they should maybe I don't know if that's what they wanna do to me the plan would be I don't sign anybody to more than a one or two your contract. So in the worst case scenario that Beal leaves when his contract is up. I'm not having to wait at out to start over again. I think if you do short term deals, and you look ahead to next year. Again, this isn't I'm not saying this team compete for Golden State or whoever the title contender is, but you would have Bradley Beal probably three time all star you have John wall coming off during you hope you close to one hundred percent or ninety percent or whatever you have Troy Brown. You have the ninth pick this year have another lottery pick next year and you have a clean ledger sheet because John hayman's white Howard are off the books. That's another bad starting point considering where things are at now that to me is the angle that I would go towards. But I don't know what they're gonna do again. Not having a front office. Permanent front office leader, kind of it makes it hard to understand what the plan is because we're really not hearing about it. We only go yesterday that they weren't even making changes, let alone, what their pursuit is. So I don't know what they wanna do. I would be patients. We'll see if they are. All right. Let's talk about the draft which is tomorrow night, the wizards have the ninth overall pick first of all, you expect them. Do you think there's any chance that they I mean we've just talked about Beal, the only chance to move up would be to package Beal in a deal? So let's just for the purposes of this, this conversation about the draft just assume they stay at nine who's there for them at nine who still there. And what do you think they'll do? So it feels like you look at all the mock drafts feels like everybody ordering slightly different. But you see the same names in the one to eight flocks. So warm guy who may be slips back is cameras from Duke, which he's polarizing prospect athletic trainer. Tampa ising, but there are a lot of questions about his motor desire. He shot less than forty percent from the field last year from two point range or two point shots. So there's concern but I don't I feel like it's almost obligatory to the wizards have to pick him if he's there, but if he's not there to me, there's a lot of guys, could you could look at again, this is a draft where every prospect, I bring up to any any person around the around the league they say, yeah. This guy's got this, but there's always the immediate downside concerns basic all these candidate, I guessing something of an educated. Guess, but mostly just sort of my own gut instinct, that it's between the eighteen year old kids say boy, I hope I'm saying. Right. He's the youngest player in this draft. He's incredibly athletic. You six nine can guard one to four he's not gonna help the wizards next year, but his sort of combination of defense, versatility skills, f-, lettuces, them, sort of going, where the NBA is trending with all the switching and ability to play in the open court. I think he's interesting. Then there's also really hot more the power Ford from again, one of these guys some people really love and things worthy of top ten pick. Other people don't think should be picked in the top twenty but he's the guy who's played three years, zag. He's athletic. He solid he can make some outside shots. I think he is sort of like a steady piece not maybe a ton of upside. But he's a guy like for a wizard seen that just does not have a great baseline right now. I think he may be helped shore that up. Those are the two guys. I look at, you know, certainly there's North Carolina's necessarily little small four who got a little, too, maybe Kelly Oubre Asian him for me. In other words, great athlete. Bad instincts kinda kinda. A guy some people like Jackson Hayes, the springy center from from Texas. So those are couple names to consider, but I've got them Boya as the guy for me right now that I if I had to pick and I really don't want it. But I had to guess you where I put my money youngest player in the draft eighteen he's like six nine long arm the whole thing. But, you know, definitely a future play, as all of these guys are after the top three in your mock draft of Williamson, Mirant, and Barrett to, to New Orleans, Memphis and New York, who did you have fourth overall because this is really where, you know, all of the mock draft start to take different turns really starting at number four through, you know, really the rest of the first-round it's, it's not unusual. Lot of people calling this been a top three top heavy draft in. That's it. Who did you have at number four, which would go to New Orleans at this point because of the Anthony? David straight. Why think if you went to, you know, if you're listening to this podcast shore after Kevin post, I'm gonna assume that the website will say that I have Texas Tech wing, Jared Culver going to the pelicans at four that said, I think, by the time I get to the final final final mock draft ahead of Thursday. I probably gonna switch it to Vanderbilt point guard areas garland. Not that I'm like, I'm like, I there are playing foot five games Vanderbilt any got hurt. So it's almost. No. You know, footage to really look at, but you talk to people around the league, and he seems like any of these guys, he seems to be the one that generates the most Suzy Atta them, and then the in a year which everybody seems to be just so down on this. I'm not going to discount that, so I've got garland going for with de'andre hundred from Virginia going to Cleveland five and and I don't know how much further you want me to go. But, but that's, that's what that's the top five and the wizards in this draft have just one pick their first. Rounder, they do not have a second round pick, while many teams like the hawks have I think five six picks or more than Philly. You know, as a bunch of picks as well in this draft, the wizards made by the sense, I've had throughout this, that the wizards are interested in buying into the second round, they, they need. Right. And so, again, this is one of those things where, you know, it was a little more clarification would be maybe two project, but I think that's possibility for them. And it is a way to get sheep towns that helps from us our cap perspective, despite the fact that weird's don't have a lot of guys on the law Stor. They really don't have my salary cap space to work, but because of the contract that they have the book so going with a second round pick, not only good for the future. But also helps the current salary cap model. I give me a guy that you really love in this draft say after, you know, a projected top, you know, six seven and a guy that you think's going to go in that in that top ten range, that you think would be mistake. Boy, I'm it's been a struggle to find a guy that I really that I really feel good about them and normally this isn't that complicated. I go. Kevin. I honestly I anybody I guess I'm intrigued by Jackson Hayes. He's got a long way to go. The fact he doesn't have a shot at that fifteen feet in the modern. MBA is a little scary, and he's definitely people use the soft term for sure. But like you see the instinct he's really good at the at the pick and roll as the as the finisher at the rim. And looking at we seem Clinton Pella, you know, have a good career with, with, with the rockets being that type of player. And so I think you in the right special situation. I think Jackson. Hey in time, not immediately. But in time could be a pretty interesting presence. He's long and the shop locker I, I think the most polarizing player strap if it's not Cam, reddish, it's gotta be bulb. All I do. There are people who think he is a top-five talent in this league at seven three he can shoot like shoot the lights out from three his athleticism. He far more fluid than you would imagine, considering all arms and legs literally. But. There's so many concerns, you know, he, he missed most last year, the foot injury their questions about his motivation. He's only two hundred eight pounds. At least that's what he tested weight into the combine. That's not gonna work against grown men in the NBA. But because this is so uncertain, he feels like I can imagine a team taking a risk on him somewhere in the top fifteen and ultimately regretting it yet I really sit here with struggle to blame them because his potential is probably significantly higher than others in that spot though, even if the risk is too much. He might be. He might be worth it at a certain point last one will Bruno Fernando go in the first round. I currently have him going thirty. So I, I guess I'm saying yes, but, you know the leaning over the Illini over the, you know, I, there was some people who thought and let the thing distract again. It's very much an eye of the beholder draft. I have thirty like, for example, I was told that Daniel gaffer center from Arkansas, actually have thirty one. Somebody told me he has a promise for from a team in the seventeen to twenty three range now me having at thirty one is significantly higher than what he SPN ranks, and so on, am I being lied to sure, why not this is that time of the year. But this very much eye of the beholder graft, and I did have one also sort of talk gaffer a bit more. So I'm just making in terms of financial just because I and others have him in that in general thirty range doesn't mean there's not a team who is far more interested in him up because he's a mobile big man, who's got a little bit of an outside shot. I could see it. But for now. Now, I have had the very last picking the first round and that would be Milwaukee's pick. I lied. One last question. Is there a contest can you win something can you can you be can you accept a ton of praise from people all over the country for winning an NBA mock draft the way you did for your NFL mock draft or not, I'm just putting my entry into the pool and hoping that there's I'm only one only way I'm winning this this, this is difficult that the NFL draft. I well we're giving out Georgetown, cupcakes to the winner of, of our mock draft. So at least you'd get something that you might enjoy other than just national attention which you, you certainly had back in April for having the most successful inaccurate and fell mock draft of anybody in the country, but I didn't have a full stomach after that I was not given a cupcake. So this is a much better deal. I'm in I you know, the NBA draft is not the, the NFL draft. It's not even. Close to it in terms of the impact that it has and and it cetera. And it really is to me, even more guesswork than the NFL draft is. And I hope that the wizards are thinking not in terms of where their pick, you know, comes in via all of the mock drafts. I've, I mean, part of me thinks they're looking through a bunch of mock drafts to help them, you know, narrow down the list of people they can pick there are players in this draft that I've seen mocked in the early second round that I think are going to be better than some of the guys taken in the top twelve top fourteen I'm which by the way often happens almost always happens. But I, I hope that they're able to get somebody that can help them. Thank you for this. You got to run. But follow Ben on Twitter at Ben standing and be sports. Washington's got his I think it's updated because they do have Jarrett. Culver as your number four overall pick. So if that's your update, it's up there right now on NBC sports dot com and just follow that for Ben's mock draft. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Yeah. 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And mentioned to people that were available on our website. The Kevin Sheehan show dot com, if they can't figure out I tune Stitcher. Spotify Google play. Tune in and all of the other podcast platforms that you can get the show on a couple of things to finish up the show, max Scherzer broke his nose in batting practice, you know, practicing Bunce yesterday. But says he will pitch tonight if they actually have a game, I, I would expect that he would pitch. I hope he doesn't have a rip Hamilton style mask on, although that would probably suit him. Well, that'd be real actually I think you're wrong. I hope that happens. Yes. The actually starting to think about it. I would that would make him awfully intimidating. And he's already intimidating to begin with. There's also breaking NBA news. Just since the conversation with Ben in that is that Memphis is trading. Mike Conley to Utah for a package that includes Grayson Allen Jae Crowder, and Kyle. Four and they're twenty nineteen number twenty three pick overall and a future. First round pick a big Mike, Conley fan. And I actually think obviously, they're trading and because they're going to draft John Moran, right tomorrow night, but I think Utah team with Donovan Mitchell, and with Mike Conley in the backward. You know they've been playing Rubio Rubio's now starting to get up there. I mean he's probably approaching his tenth year in the league. It was two thousand nine thousand nine so he's probably got nine years in the league. That, that particular back court to me is really intriguing. Mike Conley can just flat out play and he plays in a winning way. I've always enjoyed watching him play and really the team the teams that he played on with Gasol in particular, Marcus. All I thought were pretty good teams a couple of those teams I'm only surprised that. That's all this could get for my Conley. Seems like a lot. I mean, it's a lot of pieces, but how valuable are each of the peace will what were you going to get back from Utah? You weren't going to get you'll. But did you have to you weren't going to get air with Utah like no one, no more? No. That's a fair point. I look, I think first of all Jae Crowder is a good player. You know Kyle Korver is obviously at this point, I don't know forty yet he's probably approaching forty years old. It's coming up on forty years old. Grayson allen. What did he really do in his in his first year? I didn't not a lot right averaged a couple of minutes and night. Couple of points, maybe a night, but you might like his potential there. I think Jay Crowder, and the picks are the value in this deal. Right. What am I missing no doubt? That would be it. And I just don't think that's that much with what was Conley's contracts. I don't know. I I'd have. Look up as contract and see if they're you know, maybe there wasn't a market, but you would think that some of these teams they're starting to reorganize what have been more interested in Conway than that. But maybe not. Yeah, perhaps. All right. That's it for the day. Tommy will be with me tomorrow. I'll do a more depth draft preview. Gonna give you the players. I like the players. I don't like specifically for the wizards at number nine, and hopefully the nets played two games today. Right. Yeah. That'd be nice. That did looks good right now or forty five minutes away. There's actual son out. So hopefully, they'll get at least one and I can't wait tomorrow to hear Tommy's take on the the Pires criticizing baseball players. Did see that. I didn't see that you didn't tell me about that. Oh, yeah. So it for Tommy, Tommy, we'll, I think we'll have a good time. We'll do that tomorrow. Thanks to bend standing for being on the show today. Thanks to Erin for producing it back tomorrow.

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S4 E39 | CXR 25 - "Fans" before they were "Members" with Chris & Kristen Weirick

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S4 E39 | CXR 25 - "Fans" before they were "Members" with Chris & Kristen Weirick

"Welcome to the see our channel our premier podcast for talent acquisition and talent management listen in as the community discusses a wide range of topics focused on attracting, engaging in retaining the best talent. We're glad you're here. How Awesome Just having a ball. Nice and you're. Enjoying the enjoying these stay at home pandemic state of work. Or lack of that's in funner. Out The time out from work. Like an can. So here's like minded you is that that's all water there so As Ing Dad did a nice kind of to plus Mile Lake. Swim. Today. biking. It's been awesome. I'm not a swimmer. I don't know that I could do two plus laps down at the bike riding you shouldn't. You shouldn't start with two plus miles so. Take a little shorter I did. I did just a little getaway in Tahoe I'm going to remain happened in Tahoe we went and stayed there for about a week and did a mountain biking hiking in had a boat out on the lake. which was a lot of fun but. And for the first time ever. 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A couple of different companies how how long do you think you have collectively a member accurate Christian. Fan before I was a member but. As my hair club, that's why here click line out sorry. I didn't even know that one before was president. Yeah. I remember. When I first became aware of career crossroads. This is totally going to date myself it was the late nineties an ice still have my career crossroads look like thin back to win. You know in order to know where to go on the Internet Marketing Jerry wrote the Career Crossroads Book Tattoo I got. One of these days I, need to get my copy signed but it was like that was like the Bible I was running an elk placement center and. When we called what we now call recruiting crusading. Like Oh, where where do I go and so that was that was a big deal then the first time. I was actually presenting at an eerie conference and mark walked up to me at the end of my presentation to introduce themselves and said, you know some we exclusive. You know it's an exclusive invitee list but. Like you to consider the like. You've arrived to. Play No I. Know it before that my other favorite memory I was in my boss's office who at the time was Jason handled. bruns handled associates and. Jiri called him and so he was chat with Jerry on the phone never forget he hung up and I'm like. You, know him. I read I have a sort of a similar little bit little bit after it must've been. I think in two thousand is when I started taking up the books. Are On time right in figuring out what we're. We're am I going to post my jobs and how how do I find people on this crazy online recruiting thing and get out of my Rolodex. And I remember bumping into same for me. I bumped to deteriorate at an e. r. e. like who's this cat in the hat? I Sit Impression. The whole. Cordona, he's got a little thing go. Will do you have. Outside of remembering. So how you met, Mark Miller and Jay Crispin obviously the guys who who founded this thing with. The first time I saw you too. So just a you know me, it had to be somewhere a lot of fun I'm sure it was a nightclub or now. It was very nightclub ish light because it was. Like choose thousand, seven, two, thousand, eight, Lincoln's conference. They had this really cool like. A Magic Johnson was one of the speakers and you were onstage like who's that guy? Doesn't. Know Hat or anything with seen back in the day I was I remember meeting magic. Johnson. That was. Very Tall. Guy. Johnson. Strange for basketball player, right. It's very weird. There would not talk myself. I. Can appreciate that. I could see that. So, do you have do you have a favorite memory of over the last X. amount of years that you've been involved with see saw from with a meeting or a dinner? Sadly, the one that comes to mind was a after the colloquium dinner I probably shouldn't leave with this, but let's go. There it was. It was in Chicago, it was back when I was with world and I did a presentation on the exceptional candidate experience of once again, it has to be about two thousand, eight ish that's really early I mean that's super early on to be doing candidate experience though. It'd be the first one who ever even liked like connected the dots on. We started candidate gifting and reinforcing our brand with. What we were giving away and you through the whole experience in any case, I did this thing candidate experience and that night we all went to dinner and I think it was it was the dinner. The mark said afterward was when they started saying, we need to ask you if you want more wine instead of just pouring it. Ended we all ended up at. The doing piano bar in downtown Chicago in are. People on the piano is it was free our howl at the moon. Out is at Palette the moon. So that was probably one of the funnest nights, but it was just so many I mean whenever I literally consulting with a company last week and the team just. Pretty Junior team and I'm like you guys got to get some extra perspective where to what what what should we do? You need to get into career crossroads because you just need to connect with other people that are in the space in where you know the glossy presentations are kind of stripped out this just real people talking about real challenges and real solutions. What's were from Bam and you know what hasn't which is most important and I think there's just too many professional connections to be able to save others just this one thing. Yeah. Yeah I think. So a if you have a picture of Mark Miller on a dueling piano a really. SMART. Enough to not as was ice smart enough to not get on the piano about Jerry swears that he saw me on the piano. But in any case I I, don't remember him. But. What about with the big giant punchbowl rum drinks they do maybe maybe we've got one where everybody's There's no think I, I saw the impact of social media early. SMART And every now and then I make a good choice. So I would agree with you think when I was a member before it was the president, right? So my hair color, it was probably I think six it was probably early on one of the best networking events I could send might people do like by far? I think second second may be linked it. To the in May just because of the volume. Yeah. Linked in there all but you have to know how to navigate all of everything that is a Lincoln. Not everybody gets handler air linked handwork lines to there to help navigate that I used to love hearing the team come back and say, Oh, my God, we're not as far ahead as we thought we were only astronaut is far behind only smoke or not that bad. Yet we're doing okay, we're doing. Okay. That's fun stuff. So you do you have an idea of how many meetings That you've probably been to hang you know I don't night. A Lot. We've we've only read the League on digital in the last five or six years from a tracking perspective I know if we if we had good old mark on the line eight would probably up excel spreadsheet or where I still am so in my collection of career crossroads memorabilia. Remember I. Don't know if you remember this but the years that mark would get the like wooden books that. Have hold out and it had all the CDs of presentations. Yeah. So it's funny that you bring that up. So I have a kaleidoscope I have some socks. They've never been more on the lovely socks. Got from a meeting have what else do I have I certainly have the books which I found fascinating slide out and then there was something else he did for awhile. Lessons I believe last time we did a yeah I've got the The wine glasses there were I've got hand-carved crafted picture frames I've got. The Key Ring that also doubles as a whistle. I literally I could probably have scarves like so is spend a scarves I can. I got a whole collection I think I might have the scarf so. Now we're ever at the same. They were called locations back in the day. We're really ever at the same colloquium that would that would be from memory banks I am confident. I remember when I first sat down with mark and the initial talks where I was going to buy our and and he pulls out these papers. and. His ways might works. It's just fantastic but he had these papers of like everybody who had been to meeting before they're listening if they were in. Were in bold they've been the meeting if they were in Tallec state bits another. Bind blowing, but it would be really fascinating. I'm sure he's mailed the. Somewhere. But it would be very fascinating to me because somebody to go through tally all of those. 'cause you know there's got to be. A long list of people who you're still talking to and then looking at who are all those folks have just gone off any. Are doing something but yeah, you've got folks who were. In operations meanwhile, we weren't doing operations back then but who are maybe in an analytics meeting or something like that who are now running functions running as Asics, which is exciting and cool while I look I don't have a scar free I don't have a wooden. However I am be sending to you nine. What is a new? Alumni challenge coin. Partial went up but. As a way for just celebrating twenty five years were sending these the folks that were jumping on the line with just saying you know, tell us your favorite memory talk to us about you know what's been going on for twenty five plus years. So I want to say thanks. For, jumping on and sort of sharing the moment with us and we'll mail it out to you. I'll happy to do it. You guys have given me not only lots of really good nuggets to bring back to the companies that I worked for, but also great friendships and memories so for that I thank y'all sure for sure. Everything calms down, we get a new normal we get back into if. I'm not be interesting is going well yeah, that's a whole. That's a whole other call for us but I am excited to see what you do next and I just can't wait to see when you decide to get back in which decide to yeah it alone. They'll be something on the horizon we'll just wait and see by swell tilted you know like my friend Dora says just keep swimming not a problem probably will. Talk to. All right. Thanks for listening to the channel. Please subscribe to see Xsara on your favorite podcast resource and leave us a review while you're at it. Learn more about our at our website Si dot works facebook, dot com, and twitter dot com slash career crossroads in on Instagram at career x roads we'll catch you next time.

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#96 Evolving Our Gym Program pt.2

Jungle Brothers Strength & Movement

1:01:47 hr | 2 months ago

#96 Evolving Our Gym Program pt.2

"Turt- heart is that israe fucking judgments is now. He's like. I'm going to shout out. Everyone's getting shot up zip code ninety six ninety seven. I didn't check doesn't really matter which own about programming but before that was sipping coffee panadol and we've got the cream with it today which i think always brings a little bit of extra excitement. We have the crane thanks to dairy. Farmers don't shout now. I was listening. They're gonna give us a little something. We'll get research teams. Do some work on it. How you guys doing the internship fucking concession of the century lost yesterday. i'm fine. yeah. I forgot that i did. I hit most of the top ten kilogram pole. Yes i noticed it was fun. It was awesome for listeners. We had the internship. It's it was the second last week of the program yesterday. So we had our interns coach the coaches which is essentially what i get to showcase all of the things that they've learned of the time in the internship and they get to put on a mini class for the coaching staff. Here so it's a pretty kind of full on experience for them. They go at that. Fifteen minutes is four coaches at fifteen minutes each and so we had to do four fifty minute classes which actually ended up being pretty taxing. I'm not gonna lie surprise it. How much output there is. Will you hollering the whole time. That's why i'm bringing energy geriatrics. Jiri banta at all. And i was like just gonna be solving days. I was kicking back into my crossfire days. I haven't seen you quality was back in those days. You see my head. Lunges like a still short from my shoulder connected to accountable when they stand up in the fater like double shoulder. We want this guy good. We also had yesterday morning till you took us through some some new body white stuff. You take us through some handstand. We'll get into but that's a bit of a precursor to what we talking about today. But what we through that What we like to promote here. Jungle brothers This the like a consistent challenge of the systems that we already have in place because like any science his exercise science that we practice in exercise knowledge. Annan said in the last couple of podcasts. Go science just made knowledge so we accrue a set amount of knowledge in here. We test it on ourselves and then on usually on a one to one zero a small groups and if it's if it works and it comes from a reputable sauce then we apply that to systems that we put into our be causes or a a logic groups and i guess what what i was bringing forward. Yesterday was a bunch of stuff that i've lent from working with the coach. His name is sasha veteran. he's a a sex soleil former. It's not bachmann barkman. Bachman hotel or batch me but that sounds shit so we say tribesmen match a really lovely. Lovely guy awesome coach has. He's like generation gymnast systems big rhythmic gymnastics gymnasium in in the states and anyway guide noses chit you know. He's a he's he's not just a proforma because you can get a high performance at a terrible catches because they've just been doing it forever and they don't really understand regressions and progression especially when you're dealing with adult because most of the time the outset high performer will get will already be at a high end level of performance and they're just making them even better but to get someone from from from low by such as an to proficient spice which is what he's doing and which is what we're doing on a regular basis within the gym you need some kind of system or structure with small progressions and mine accuse longer period of time to credit quality so one of we do a lot of hand sanitizer. Jim always have we lock them. We like them old buddy white stuff done all of that stuff from his approach was how would i say contradicted a lot of stuff that we we we've done in the gym on a regular basis and yesterday in front of all the coaches and told them what there's contradictions were why and then opened up a spice for as long winded answer I wouldn't say a nest owned listening. I wouldn't necessarily say contradict. I would say like some of the stuff kaunda but it's also just alternative like it's just a different way. Yeah and i think. I think that's important because those important because contradict would indicate that that one would be wrong. Well that's what a lot of the stuff that he was saying. Men gems a very black and white. Well i mean that's for broad kind of comment but this chairman is politics is the art. This approach is wrong. This purchase right. Yeah and but again it. I think it's in. It's in the details and it's like the like say using this like like looking at the handset and specifically the concepts and the desired outcomes not contradictory. But it's just that in reality. How a lot of the stuff plays out thing ends up happening. That's not supposed to happen like it's coached in a way that the certain shortfalls or certain certain aspects of technique hit to which means that it doesn't play out in in in good quality sustainable progress or the the the end result is not as good as it could be. That's right yeah so you kind of lowering your potential. Yeah but i think. But i do think that's an important distinction because i feel like on paper. You say that works that works but it's really it's a pot of processes like once you're in the gym doing it and you're applying this stuff to people and you're applying it to your coaching staff. And you're teaching them things and having impossible on you start to say little cracks developing your like. That's a gap in our process with this particular thing. So i i really liked what you put forward. Yesterday was going to be my next question. How did did did you. Was there anything in that when you like it or i liked a lot. Yeah i really did. And yeah like joe said as much is a contradiction an evolution on making something that was good data. More information is brought and we put that on top and yeah loved. It explained it really well like starting with the anatomy. And we've already all pretty versed in The mechanics of a handstand. It was just supporting a lot of the The id's around the shoulder position. I think it's amazing and i would like to play with those ideas more before we get into program. Yep and just the general approach a love a love that like you said. We're always tinkering with the programming. And truthfully a wish it was just like you just said it and it's like forget it's like when you set up a business and you like okay. We're gonna get gear in there. We go to get staff and then we'll get programming because all settlers open and just deal with sales and bring people in but you have to keep changing we we keep on it and you got to evolve. It's comes from a selfish place like the money. They invested into. Sasha's purely for myself for anyone else. I mean i knew that it. All of money jungle is money. I'll take the money. Oh no i settled ford training. That's how it always work from the start like the program. He's by the people who are writing programs. Yeah by us yes. That's right and the interesting thing on that is that it doesn't end there because now we've got josh coming in Rewriting our lift. Dylan i think lucky might be looking at having more of an influence in sem and again you'll say these these changes and the shifts in the way things work within the space and we analyze and we we review and if it works we go with it doesn't it's the celtics pocket off is the self-assertion pod of the The jungle brothers model like yeah. Imagine teaching someone else's program month in month out versus you teaching someone program. The view you've renault works and you've done attributed towards that's right do was trying it. I mean because that's the thing like what's going to happen with the stuff from yesterday Coaches had input yesterday but then now have further input so even though it's as program by the time it comes around to being on the board and being cut to a class must of the coach will feel like they've had some hand in it as well. And i and i think that is very important because that's the difference between someone coaching here and someone running grip fitness class fitness class. You just gone for the motions yelling out. A few cues might adding people. But you don't necessarily do that class. it's not your style. It's not what you do if you're training but if you're practicing fucking lies ally to lie because people are looking at you saying aren't to be like that that guys or girl is leading this class and and you're giving them something that didn't get what you've got shit didn't get what you've got so lie giving them doug shit. They're pretty be me. Call that other fitness affiliates. All of them every single one about a jungle alliance out of pace feedback for years that pauley on the in that in that workshop on the handset stuff. I was very impressed with a couple of the questions you brought to. What he was presenting pointed out to me how far. You've come as a coach. Because i thought you wouldn't have been able to ask a question like that. I don't know eighteen months ago. totally it was just. it wasn't in your realm. You probably like didn't feel confident or knowledgeable enough. Do you know you're on that you're in that place so it was really cool. Thank you joe. Yeah yeah. I think it comes from doing it myself. Coaching other people like in in one on one and in the group and saying being there on the floor saying issues and then just kind of bringing it back to how do we. How do we apply these. Id's better throughout people. And that's i guess we'll get into that light out which is like how we it's easy not to do what we do though. It's because what we already have works. You know what. I mean practice time and time again and you can run it like clockwork and you apply you. You can apply it to a group in small grape and be group and it works and so why fix it nine broke. Why fix it but at the end of the day if you can get somebody better quality results in a shorter period of time with less chance of injury then you have to explore that area you know even when it comes to your own practice i believe i think it's i think for us. It's important from that perspective of being truthful and being confident that we are putting our best foot forward all the time and knowing that what we what we sell here in the gym is of a world class standard. But it's also keeping us engaged and continuing to have a product that we are energized by and proud of and interested in rather than just slashing in the same shit for the last five years. I mean we talk about. We've we used to talk about. We don't anymore. We used to talk about how i think it was. Maybe not first few years. We're like man. We've got like threes of lift programming in years of programming. We can just run those again. We have to write another program and we'll always talking about it as if this point would come this point the beginning what you've done and you know it's gonna work then. Yeah somehow. it doesn't work. That doesn't well. No we just keep rewriting programs and they keep evolving and and i think we've we've acknowledged that it in order for all of those things that i just mentioned to a case we have to keep evolving the program. Otherwise we wouldn't be proud of it then it just becomes some generic and you got to stay current plus. There's so much new pool of pulled of talent in this space now is just the. The level is going up year by the quality of the coaches that the access to information the disciplines that we're getting exposed to you can't just ignore that assimilated and use it to make your brand stronger and the members to like Like they're evolving as well. Yes we need to stay engaged. But we've got people who've been training for five years and they're just like us in the sense that they want new information on the same stuff as well as well as new stuff like. They need to stay engaged in the same way that we do so like they they want. I think they're going to love. They always love them. We bring a new theme. You know there's a buzz around whether it's like a particular movement or some information yup and get those little workshops going on in groups two or three in body weight and stuff like that and people are trying to break down and everyone any challenges new ideas it made me realize that i think i need to step back into my hands practice and take back the crown. Well update yourself. You started top position. You know a right like my goal in the rings lime burn. Just just south. I put my goal down on the board and literally like the next hour. Everyone was doing what i was doing. Well off again. Just muscle up. Shoulders stands and stuff. So joey step. Becky and i was like all right. Yeah can the crown again. Yeah which made a point of difference may well. Don't worry i've got some moods fucking intense. Talking bullshit put a hand stanford of may for a few years ago. Like a handstand photo of joey from the ancient archives. Oh fuck you how you for that. That's actually signed. You'd be proud common. Ma okay there has been a From what i've seen as being like a rekindling of of the muscle up somewhere. Probably i probably got into it because i so you doing it more than you. Naturally you got some of your pay take clients doing it. And then i say tastes got some of his clients doing it. And then you go like the all the new interns and they're all working on it and so then somewhere along the way i had my clients. Don't it because they like to moslem this year rights like january feb achieve this in constrict muscle by the way. Yeah it rings. Strict on the rings. And and so i was like and i haven't been doing any upper body work for quite a while really not in any sort of consistent way so i was like fuck man. I'm going to get back to that stuff. It's crazy always surprised me. 'cause i've seen like i know there's been periods where you don't work on it but then say we have shoot jump up on. The rings was bust out. Shoulder stands like straight up like fucking hell. He did a lot of it. Yeah yeah and i think the beauty of that stuff is once you once you got the base wants you like it's at that perimeter of your ability and then once you surpass that perimeter and like all that stuff muscle show center it's just backing your like foundations now. Even you still moving. He's still stands strong. And whatever so. It's funny. I can kind of do everything i could do. Do it once where i used to be able to do. A like final reps five sets. Yes yes yes. I didn't saw whereas now fucking cooked but yeah unreal. I mean you one reference to grandma anyways fuck it exactly bring it a ramp. Just need to find out okay. That's what he does with some fight. I shop hands holding your legs up easy so then. What's the using the handstand stuff from yesterday. The handstand as a movement is a portion of what we work on now. Body white program and for folks who don't now. We have simple mastery system that we have that we follow in the body weight program which is four k movement patterns and a list of progressions within h mastery and you progress from the beginning to the end of the mastery. Whatever right you're able to yeah. And that's code routes routes program and we've just added Well adding it's written out branches all the limbs. I think we're calling it so the roots of the tree and then the branches and shit is once you've surpassed the roots area. You can then progress to the limbs right. That's why do you think about like we've got so you've got trunk. For instance which is one of the fall fund fell foundational growth stem trunk of the body. Not trunk of the tree. Shrunken buddy also when you get to the bottom like once you get for the fundamentals and you can stop picking it moves from like a like a fundamental to you can start specializing. Says chase down my front on my back. Labor dragonfly goal side labor. Something like that. Which are the more more higher intensity complex skillful expressions of that same foundation on. And it's kinda like the the that the fundamental that you need to get one of those you got get the fundamentals before you start chasing down these more complex patent because if you've done break called crossfield calisthenics pretty much. I really right like rush ahead and try and do the really high strength. Cool the young without addressing this this trunk foundation yup. Well that's that's the is not looking to move and you just keep trying until you get it. Yeah which some humans can do because a pig mom and dad. They've got a really strong china history. And i grew up in a second Bits of the rest of us That is Path fraught with danger. Yeah and usually finally and even if you do get the movement it's at a price you know. Yeah and it usually looks like shit. Yes you really look selection. Can i ask a question for your whatever you want it for the listeners. Why handstands So we have in the masters we have Push pull trunk and the fourth one. Is we call it. Press or recall. Hands down head stan headset. Ten stand and it seems like oh these are all regular the patents that i understand these pots. But then you got hand. Sandwich seems skill base. Why handstand. I know the answer ahead. Overhead white load-bearing ahead. And because you can do it. Upside down looks cool. But i think when looking at any of these positions. It's not the position that i mean the athletics of good quality position. You look at it and you think. Wow that looks amazing. And it's really nice to accomplish that but what we what we're actually trying to achieve is the vessel that can express that particular position and the changes that have taken place in your body to get. It is what we're actually after. So that's just a it's a. It's an outcome of neurological tendon. Ligament muscular comp composition consistent consistency in skill set and all of that stuff combined equals the freestanding hempstead or muscle. Up or beyond. You know handstand push up while i'm saying whatever it is it's not. It's not to say that the that the handstand doesn't movement is the gauls functional or as important as like current moving. I can't make so you know. Yeah but i think it's i think there's an acknowledgement for us when you're when you're working on body white strengthen your your kind of these really challenging strength movements there's an acknowledgement that the movements themselves on important like you don't have to be able to do a front but you training for something so it's fucking cool to work towards something that is currently not within your realm but potentially could be. Yeah exactly it's a milestone of changes taking place in the body like positive china. And i think that's really important and people recognize that not enough. I recognize it. Like a subconscious thing when you instagram's really good example. And someone does their first up or they they do. Kick up and catch handstand for ten seconds. And everyone's like awesome fantastic. Well look come you know. It's all about that. Jenny and a why it's gone from a. to point b. and over that time positive changes taking place enough so for you to reflect that in this position coach nikki. Who got a you. Not being bang is right there on the instagram video. Ready to embrace congratulate is nice. She did good. Yeah should very proud. That's right who the fuck. That guy is in officers. No thought i'd just ask that question mainly to present that answer to the least. Yeah and when i do foundations i may. I make that a conscious conversation for them to say that you know. It's not to say that the hands. Dan is something that we say. Is the goal in a must for a pattern. I it's not the handset but it's the expression of strong shoulder in that in that range and also the journey that goes to them. What gets laws strong shoulder. Stripe body and balance. Risk ability. Hand strength consistency. All of that All of that and all of that combined is progress when it comes training. And it's something. It's a measurable tool and we all know if you're not measuring something it's usually not being tended to so if you're going in and doing exercise dinan die out. And there's no form of measurement all another way of saying progress is to judge you know like with a. We're looking at judge. A quality of movement so judging gymnastics or judging diving or judging a boxing match charging some kind of athletic event is also another way of measuring. If you know what. I mean do that with the eyeball. Just looking at the aesthetics of a pattern is good quality. Shit quality. You know has it. Improved has improved. And that's the primary retake here even with the stuff that is easily measurable with like load at. Jim is not necessarily so obsessed with the with the white. That's on a abell at but i like how. How well can you squad. How much white can you can. You put on the bar debut going. How how scf is up position. Look how much extension have you got all these things that we're looking at a more important to us here. Then how many more planets can you get on onto the actual bar. So you know all of those things quality. That's the fucking takeaway and consistency. We've had some development in the lift program as well a recent times coach tavern. Come on board. Shout out to. Joe quite an accomplished amateur weightlifter but also a really great coach and she's stepped into into the coaching staff for news. She's taking over the lift program. She's she's She's having a she's this'll be a trial trial everything before we sign off and the jimbo. That's coaching programming. Whatever it is always trophies really important that that we do that because not everything works so trialing joe's programming and so far. It seems like it's doing well. I'm not up to date with the numbers in class but by eyeball. Count the classes of busy very busy and i expressed to the gals when they finish the session the other night to invite a guy friend. Sometimes there's a lot of dudes always have always been less enthusiastic about attending al lift class. And i think it's because we don't allow people to just it's not about how have you can you. It's about this enforcement of quality. And i think for a lotta guys with mobility issues. I just can't handle that fucking smack in the face from reality and a lot of them are aware that it's not what they need these days because of my client this morning james the live class was going on and he was like Is that a stretch. Clawson live class because there was just want me up. And he said. Oh there's there's always a lotta gals in that class. So the guy said all the gals lifting weights. So the guy's a stretching we look and the car and was in the corner and he just said like bands and balls and was just stretching. And it's it's a type of thing. I think because a lot of the guys and and i guess i'm i'm speaking to generalization authority done a lot of it. They're ready to love it. I love that. And he's he's mobility to lower the guys into getting you know moving up and the women here getting strong. I wanna get jacked spice. Like it's hard to avoid the areas of weakness in your training when you say someone else doing something in your area. That's really lack inspiring. Like oh i need a bit of that. It's the type of training that that those those words i was watching. Oh portal interview on the weekend ahead of him. I actually never heard of him. I watched last week. I watched like all of asia's stuff all over again. Yeah so i'd like to george. The rogue roz interview super motivational won the one raw bras. Where the guys like interviewing. It's like a split screen and the guys ask him questions and they're lying over. Lack is like one of the first one. Yeah god looks like a beautiful if he could. Betsy sent it to us okay. I'm like if you guys saying this guy remember like fox. Who's this guy and it's sort of assad night but it was great to listen. Because he's he's he speaks for a lot of these. Id's are a great foundational. I've aligned with low like philosophy. And i he was just he was just expressing that and that made me think of about Your training and he. He was explaining how trying to hit. he's movement. Training should be is and people should be centered around weakness rather than strength whereas you have a lot of people who just train around their strengths. And it's just a really good way to package that idea. Paypal is. I feel like that's exactly what's going on there in. He people are aware of what they should be working on. We've come in here and we've trying to promote that high level of awareness and that standard for movement which is like he. I guess what is it that you missing. And that's why you need to be pouring more time into but it made me think about. How am i doing that. but it's just. Your training really should be primarily focused around where we get that that oversimplification. But it is. It is a bit of a decide like it's not. I wouldn't say that it's very difficult to do. For exclusively lot of the stuff that the weaknesses on stuff that interests you as well and if that's what your whole training regime is based around it can get real dry real real quick. You know so. Yeah i think the you gotta have the stuff in there that makes you tick you got to get on the mat so you can punch them on or you get out there and hit the fucking trials. Whatever it is that you love doing context to work on the weaknesses. I think it's a signed with movement culture. It's lack just delve deep into this one area day in and day out for hours just to accelerate the process in there and you get results but you have to be kind of human do it. That's true. I had this conversation with jt. Yesterday which is an. I'm i'm not. i'm not of human either. I kind of fun yeah. I addressed my weaknesses. But i also have to stay engaged and meet and sell high. Celebrate your strengths. Yeah yep yeah that's right. I think the yeah. There has to be an acknowledgement to the witnesses and worked on in. That area bit idealistic. But it's a good little framework to think for just to like maybe just shift someone's perspective on what they're actually doing targeted. It's important because if you're just working on your strengths then you're headed to the wrong place. Accountable why popped into my head but this morning as all getting out of bed brushing my teeth i was remembering the guys that was a couple of guys in particular when i worked at anytime fitness as a pay couple of guys who just trying to shoot out of their body and they had really impressive bodies and they had these fucking spaghetti legs and i used to look at them and they were just the most alien looking dudes if you saw them though in a pair. Jane's and i still had bought bit. You like fox. Guys picks and shoulders and all that development. Bc's is in training shorts and it. Just these little pencils. And i was like how the fuck does that happen. So for some reasons remembering that this morning. And i'm thinking like that's what happens when you just train your strengths. That's why you know so. There has to be acknowledgement of the witnesses in their cult. Jim culture plays a huge role in that. And it's very difficult to go into space that has a really strong culture in in one particular discipline and then try and try to acknowledge your weaknesses in because you get into and fucking. Everyone's doing more time and get good at it and you're like fuck into doing more than you got to ship. You gotta lifting. Jimmy ever like fox lift you know. Yeah and i've been sucked into that that spice many times jujitsu jim nez same role every day on that guy's getting better these awesome looking up to them and it's and it's just about rolling and there's not a lot of emphasis on anything else so i think to have a gym culture where you know everybody's acknowledging areas of weakness in the working on them whatever they are. It's a hard thing to accomplish in something that i think we do really well but still plenty of plenty of room for improvement there. You know because you've got to keep it interesting to get this with a lot of the newer coaches that come through in the car. I feel like i'm kinda like growing out of the body. Why class and be more this. And that i'm like but you're understand. That can't just give people what they need because we've done that before and fucking class empties no interns up. You know what. I mean like we can give people exactly what we know. They need for them to get the best results out of their training. But there's more to it than that if they're not engaged by the process they're not gonna get any result sitting at home. Yeah so the has to be a balance of stuff that people made and stuff that people want. And i think a lot of that comes down to acknowledging weaknesses. Another wife scientists. Same thing acknowledging weaknesses and then celebrating a strength. You know that it's a really good point too. And i i think it's really important for the just as a side note to keep that in mind when their programming folks you. We've seen it happen many times with patriots. Who are super fixated on what they want. And the client comes in and the client will always tell the pay like when the pay whose impressive says to the cloud. What are your goals. Generally the person's goals will echo that of what the personal china's into because the personal china's already kind of setting the inspiration or the aspiration for this relationship so it gets raised with the coach for the patriotic okay. Cool i'm gonna watch your program. That's going to deliver those results and get you to whatever where i am but sometimes i haven't deep to find out actually what that person really wants. The person ends up doing it for a little bit. But they're like fuck this. Yeah i want what. I want that thing. That's what they're telling. Me is good. But also i wanna fuck better naked and i wanna fuck and put on muscle or whatever look payments. Yeah you know like yeah. Like that shit's important fucking so it's gotta be it's gotta be a balance conscious bay what you know they need almost like you can't trust the first the first response that comes back in that conversation about what someone's goals and this. This is a balancing act so you focusing on progressing programming into more efficient more an and experimenting with new position and new coaches techniques at the same time you're trying to keep people engaged and then on top of that you've got all this new information that's coming in and you're gonna find a way of being able to continue to deliver a consistent product that people know and understand that when they come into the space going to be changing something completely where the point of like fuck this is not. This is not jungle brothers. Why the hell are we doing today. You know she's more like cross fit so tell me about lift program. Tell me about some of the evolution. That's taking place there. I mean we've had different phases in it where we've been interested in a lot of olympic lifting a lot of powerlifting and then kind of hybrid model bit above. Well we had we. We went into a big Powerlifting phase over covid and that was partially because of access access to key it. Just the programming had to had to change a bit coming off the back of that we went into we. Yeah we had some more power. And recently we've come into the big lifting basically and it's been a wall maybe a good year since we've had You know some solid olympic lifting phases with the intro. Joy taylor That is he now. And there's been a good response. She's currently got this Six week program and it's building people from The foundations a lot of technical work. In it as you'd imagine And then some strength stuff at the end which is has some technique requirement as well. So she's building the lift from the top down type thing Man she's working the the plane in a session and the snatching another session. And what would you say you know talking in the context of just talking about with what people need them what they want. What are the challenges in a program like that that you face. Yes the the olympic lifting in a gym like house has always been challenging because of the technical hurdles that you've got to get through I think jerry put it really well when she was introducing the program to the coaches that She said Olympic lifting is all about something like strength speed power timing and patients and that's patients in the lift itself but it's also in the the development processes journey. Yep so with that. Sort of thing I strongly believe building. The context around it for people is really important and you know we always try to give context to a movement when we coaching it here. But you don't always you know people know that pushups area and your body so you don't you don't always bill context every single move that you every exercising a workout. You delivering it. But i think for the olympic lifting year. This is all about like letting people know that we have to go through this phase where you're going to definitely suck at it for a while because it's so technical And you just have to stick with it and keep turning up and you're gonna have little improvements every session But by the end of the phase you'll be a lot better at and and you know it's it's mainly getting over that technical hurdle and keeping people engaged before they have the breakthroughs and so you know they have those breakthroughs. they celebrate little ones. because they're breaking for. Is that motivates people to stick with. Yes yes that's where. I maim so so. Yeah there's a lot of people have busy lives and they. We have to be aware of them coming in. You know some people once a week twice a week and maybe That's the only session they get that wake. And we need to balance Those taking aspects and also giving them a workout Which is always like the balance when writing program is an the balance in this what we talking about what they need versus What they want and what would be overall better for that person's say mental health in that week if the been beaten down awaken then he coming here and they just have to work in a broomstick for fifty minutes break him. You know it's going to suck for them whether they fucking leave. Jim ought august three hours of training for the week. That's what i maim. So yes so. Those are the challenges with an olympic lifting program so we've always had a bit of a hybrid in the past. I as in you know we'll when we're talking about allocating time to technique versus some strength at the end We've always tried to have a nice bounce this one. He probably got a little little bit more technique in it. But it's holding out really because joe's it's just a really good program and i think everyone's kind of behind making it work and the numbers holding and people that definitely improvements on your classes show. Yeah yeah. I think it comes down to every time we get a new coach specialist in their area. We try to adopt any of the new information that comes with them. You know like hanging either haning six eight weeks. Programming to jobs is a lot of trust involved in that. I think a lot of people recognize that probably. I'm not sure if joe does or not but it. This is how the brand it's out. It's the product that we deliver as a business and and the people within the spice where more morally obliged to look after off and make sure that they get. Obviously the money's worth but they're not get injured and all that kind of stuff so to hand that space over to someone. It's i gotta take a whole bunch boxes criteria but for us to do that what we gained from it is this influx of new knowledge. You know but there's always that risk that the classes going to empty out people are gonna like it or someone has a bad experience. Yeah so to gamble at the same time like the way. We evolve our businesses. There's a lot more risk involved. But i think the returns and the rewards of so much righto that it's as long as we're being smart about the investment in the time of the person that putting two frontline that risk is worthy yard agree. I think there's times when we've we've taken the chance not even necessarily with the new coach but trying something left of failed in our program and it didn't come off well and sometimes something like that could result in. You're losing a member walter. Should experience whatever so you look back and you. You could have done that better. But i do think that i agree that ultimately that risk is worth taking because it does allow you to keep pushing forward into new ground and coming out with something that is different whereas plight safe all the time it. It's it's it's the same and it's boring and it doesn't really get any better and you you need to be challenged. We need to be challenged. You know this this new wave of of of information that comes through and new coaches to to feel comfortable to turn around and say hey what you're doing is out of date. You know what i mean or it could be better or not quiet riot or i've lent different method or something and if we have those open communication if there's too much hierarchy where coach that that's working with us or under under bell doesn't feel comfortable delivering that kind of Fade back then. The only person that's going. Well they only people hurt our us into the day dr isolate yourself and then you stuck in stuck in their dogma and you just kind of doing things because of always been done that way and they work and if it's not broke don't fix it. Yeah and i think we get like you said we have to stay engaged. Get really bored. If we're doing the same stuff now that we were doing five years ago. Yeah i would be some. We wouldn't we wouldn't be stopped. Yup doing what we're doing. I believe. I think we're just not the kind of people to be sitting stationary for long periods of time. Doing the same thing. In and out. I mean even if it is working all. We're always looking for china. I think i'm saying to me once that your day fault sp- stike is dissatisfied. I don't know if that was the word. I think we all share but that is soon as we're sitting stationary bit. Get a bit irritated. Should be doing something here. Hangs up over there. Benefits hasn't drawback that's and move it over that side of the room and he often points out that i can't really enjoy anything but small price to pay for constant growth. We have a similar similar evolution. That's gone on to program which you guys may be aware of. Maybe not as much but the jets program kind of. It's almost like a little satellite thing at this point because we have the jujitsu coaches and really khaw them which is night and poll. They're not part of the other classes that go in the gym which then the the goal is to integrate them. Because we want everything in this space to being degraded in the same way that we don't want people trying to make sure they're doing jujitsu and five moves downstairs or lift move rather but this been a cool evolution in the jets program which is like this idea that for people that have tried jujitsu at stanford utah kademi. You go in generally and it's a college and the coach will show you a couple of sleet techniques and you'll get a chance to drill them and you do that for about twenty minutes and then do some rolling and then you know the classes done and then you go in the next day and it could be the same culture it could be different and they teach you something completely different so yesterday will work on sweeps from closed god and then today i'm showing you guys How to pass the single leg got then going on the third day. And today we're looking at different variations of stripe foot lock and it's really cool and exciting because you learning all this new stuff but the downside is you. Don't actually get good at any of those things because it's just it's like coming into the gym. And i said i work in almost lobs next hour working on snatch next on handstand pushups and like the consistent. Yeah but you don't repeat it next week. It just because the amount of different techniques it just fucking new shit all the time. Hey how many moves directly and there aren't combinations us 'cause like infinity probably because boxing combinations are there's an infinite amount especially but and digitize fucking don't how how many state like single moves think there are. I couldn't many and data to deal with uber cup. Suplex if you look at if you look at the submissions that i of you know you have a few different variations of shelter logs. Few for non locks chokes. Like you know. So that's maybe set sights fifty but then you look at the different gods. That's almost infinite delay reversed delta x. god single k. guide coyote. God fucking half. God daypack gabrielle. God screw god. Awful god god and the god is just continue to evolve. And then for every god there's different variations but then there's also the defense to the gods. How do you pass this. God might be three from wise deposit and god so and so then. There's the pathway. H god into submission the pathway. We'll be different. Because the god position is fundamentally different amongst them. Also how do you get from the k. Got to the just a fucking quagmire very hard to map putting that on a mind map thing. Well some gyms have done that and the ones that do that like like tenth planet jiu jitsu and staff they they zero in on one or two gods that they specialize in and that's what they teach right. Just say good at it. Yup that's it you just stick to that path and it's very it's been very effective for their competitors and it's kind of a cool way to go about it a bit of an identity as well isn't it. Yeah yeah that'd become known for it. That thing they you mean for using them as an example. They have a couple of god's that they've that eddie bravo who's the head coach of ten planet that he's developed like he created. He invented the gods that they use. So it's pretty cool like because he is constantly evolving as gods like a mad scientists and then teaching it to students are. The gyms don't know about it. Because then i'll work on it so when they go and compete they're bringing new shit to the guy and people don't have systems shutdown. But that's how this works. Essentially at the at the top level you have a top level competitor. They are building a game generally speaking around new like new innovations so when they shot competition they put on an attack that the person hasn't seen before and that attack wins. But yeah but then everyone says it in that event and then people start working on the counters and then the next competition the next year we get shut down. So there's this constant process of like reinvention that occurs. it's kind of odd stuff and no one remembered it and you like i'm yeah. I'm doing exactly downside. Control yeah any books beautifully. And that's exactly right. There's always a place for that. I was going to wipe for the next side again but so the so the downside is if you constantly try to address everything and work on all of it and you don't have the structure then you just end up catching something new all the time and no one gets no good at anything yet so we decided that we wanted to focus on one thing. What out. what's al's game a lot of what we what we work on is single leg x god and god and that's really because Poll who before jt polls the head coach. That's what paul likes to play. And he's very good at teaching it and he has a very very watertight system from that god and so he's like i'm gonna take this to everyone and i'm just going keep teaching until they get so fucking good at it that that people can't shut it down need anything else. Yeah inside and i mean it's not decide that you wouldn't need anything else but it's like if you're trying to give a new person humvees that they can return to that safe for them that they feel comfortable with that is a good idea. Yeah so we might. We'll work on that for the whole week. And if at the end of that way we feel like people still getting. We'll just repeat it the next wake up and there's an element of aci. Sometimes a class can fill a bit repetitive. Do can you add different drills or different intentions to a particular drill. maybe a slight variation. But you're keeping it on that same line that signed fame so that everyone everyone's developing game that's really taught and then okay cool. Let's add another layer to that step by step and so the the cool thing is is that you at the expense of constant innovation and constant excitement. Guys he's a coon using them and teach you today. It's like everyone develops something. That's really a really solid at. It's just like the buddy program really. It is yeah. We had that evolution as well. That's cool mastering the basics. Yes to master the basics. I actually liked training. That like the repet- repetition of this sim sidhu. Stop odu i. I'm just trying to get good at that. Yeah mark the too much variety. Just get confused. Yeah do i like it as much if i think about jitsu. I've always liked learning new shit all the time. Yeah but i. But i'm also like much more advanced but i'm also like like super aware that that the that mitra jitsu is not that good as a result of having learned in that manner. You know so. It's at the expense of my actual development But it's just fun to show up like he's like three cool foot locks that you've never seen on that tape to me. They're not forget it the next day. Well that's like the two different like if you're amy's to just enjoy the class and have fun and enjoy that that that spice in time then that would be optimal. Yeah if your if your goals are. I wanna come the next and then it's going to be different than i guess. Yeah and it's and it's kind of that thing to like in in making people build the foundation and address their weaknesses. And do really what you know that i need. You have to sacrifice a little bit of fun and excitement like a little bit. You have to sacrifice all of it. It's about finding the balance by you. Make your acknowledging that what this is more important for you over a long time frame rather than looking at. What's going to be the most fun to do today. And i think. Say that for all about programming totally. It's yeah it's everything. Yeah that's the. I mean with Restrengthen movement same thing. It's what new she can we do. That's fun and engaging but also how do we make sure gaza actually getting more my bonds stronger and picking up new skills lifting some heavy shit. Yeah lifting shits important of drift from the from the whites for probably about six or seven months. Was it to make you better at hands. It was covid. I just went off even had access to all of that kit there. They're just went off lifting. For some reason. I would have thought felt that i'll stretching and doing all the body white stuff i think i was just tents you know what i'm in because it was a tense period. Felt like my buddy disney more decompression like more range expression and thought last kind of need right now is to be adding load and getting tighter. Does that make sense. What are you waiting paul. When you give taylor like bro hug you say hi and give them a hug. What does that feel like. Stop talking him a long time ago. It's not we said last night. It's like a snack of concrete. It's fucking hot. you're hot dude. I'm i'm still pretty. Sop elisa merit quality of his definitely. Not like real. Everyone says hit him. It's like hitting fucking solid state that instagram things like mma fight hand on hantavirus brick. Those such a funny video. Y'all ramiro on and he's in like one of these cryer chamber things that goes up to eat just and it's hard to explain. You actually have to go and look at it. But it's him talking in cuban saying something to someone off camera and then just chuckling. But it's just like he's he's chuckle is like a full trap buddy chuckled. He's like just such a character. You can see when the scariest guide very you know. You'd say like a as finding bella or isn't he he's finding fucking anthony rumble johnson. Oh that's like legitimate. Saw the shit. That's scary yeah. That's to almost fight. Real is coming. is them talent. yeah. I think he's gonna gonna walk for him. He lost those last two days in that sort of fashion. Yeah he just wasn't himself. Yeah he wasn't he wasn't there you think he's finished. It looked like a finishing contract. Yeah games coming up against a hyper competitive like days as imagine it just be a mental breakdown. Like many he had that. Did you giants for giant giant beta. Mapra thing like he beats everyone up to that twice. I just neither imagine that. Have flat those two guys the to of all time awful. They're in between you and being otherwise he would have been champ show. If those guys didn't exist yeah champion. All of those guys didn't and you're in the usa. Yeah it's a really good way. We're going to wrap it up there. Thanks gents thank you. Thanks for listening guys if you want to know more about what we do without training get of us. Jungle brothers dot com. You can connect with us with the you. Know if you're looking for your own training or your garden so you want to know more about our coaches internship. Just get us through the website or on instagram at jungle brothers movement We do have another internship coming up in the next couple of months. Where where we know right now. We're in mid-february we've got an internship. Coming up probably early early. April not confirmed yet but we do have quite a bit of interest so we all booking that presently people that just bagging their spots Get in touch and even fuel is a thing we had a jim. Go out of guy get in touch through the screen. The other day who started an instagram account fight lift. Move is the name of his instagram account. And he He takes me when does sound familiar. And i said hey man on the economy wise name. But i'm sound psalm from the us. And i got a gym. And i got two buddies of mine and one of them is a professional tie faida strongmen couple of them do jujitsu like they really doing all the stuff. And he's like we've been living this ship for years and we just decided we wanted to start a thing and so we call it five. Move and then. I found you guys on on instagram. And i just wanted to make you know. I wanted to touch base. Because i didn't want to tread on anyone's toes. Because i know you guys have five. Moves your your guys on one jay and one one caramel by younger and the white guy looks like mark wahlberg. A little outspoken brash. But anyway i was like men. That's so cool. And i i mean. I i was like use it like fuck. That's so great to see that someone has evolved really a similar. The same thing to what we're doing in their own interpretation on the other side of the world and that way now connected with them so and we've found these people also here in australia. We've connected with some other james who have a similar athos two thousand. It is designed to continue connecting with people. Who have this kind of idea because we're working on something big so if you're listening and you're like yeah you on my people in this five moving and watching her brother stands for is i. It speaks to me. Get in touch because we would like to be connected with that. Bacall diabetes alighted connect with us. Thanks for listening. Thank you thanks so you guys next week. 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Resigned to it: Algerias president

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Resigned to it: Algerias president

"This economist podcast is brought to you by linked in jobs. Hello and welcome to the intelligence on economist radio. I'm your host. Jason Palmer every weekday. We provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world. A shooting inside Canada's parliament in twenty fourteen sparked a national debate about gun ownership that still intensify as medical professionals staged protests calling for stricter gun laws. We examined covetous gushing has similarities to the fight about guns across the border in America, and many governments are starting to require businesses to report their gender, pay gap. How much less women are paid than men for similar work? It's becoming clear just how much parenthood matters to that calculation. We have visited to the data. First up though. This week Algierians flooded into the streets to celebrate a moment that was unthinkable two months ago. After two decades in power eighty two year old Abdelaziz boot of leaguer resigned as the country's leader. The news followed almost daily protests by hundreds of thousands which began in February years of corruption and mismanagement have left the oil and gas rich country with a big deficit and one point four million people unemployed, but it's been a long time since Mr. poodle league actually lead the country. He suffered a stroke in twenty thirteen and has been an invalid ever since. It's a click of military leaders all the guards widely known as the Pua. That's really calling the shots further. Protests are expected tomorrow with Jerry now demanding the removal of LA Hawas. Unable second abilities booed Affleck handed his letter resignation to the head of the constitutional committee. And it was a rather sad. Seeing actually Roger McShane is our Middle East deter. You normally see put Affleck addressed in nice three piece suits in this case. He was dressed only in a robe sort of looked like an old man who has woken up in the middle of the night and could barely even handle letter to the head of the constitutional committee who is Mr. producer Pflieger. Well. Is a member of the old guard. He was actually passed over once for the presidency in the nineteen seventies. But was given the job two decades ago, and what he's most known for is leading Algieria out of a very dark period starting around nineteen ninety one it fell into a bloody civil war that took the lives of around two hundred thousand people and L Julian's really credit who'd Affleck with bringing the country out of that. But since then he's kept the country closed off to foreigners and foreign investment. Me hasn't reform the economy he rules with a cabal of oligarchs and generals, which is commonly known as lip who've where the power, and they really keep a tight grip on things, they restrict political speech. They don't allow for free media, even a legal nominally at least to gather in large crowds. And in two thousand thirteen he suffered a debilitating. Stroke which left him on able to walk in to speak, really? And since then real power has really been in the hands of those generals, and businessmen and few politicians. So he's been in power for two decades. Six years of that time arguably unable to rule why is he being pushed out of power? Now why I think people got fed up with the idea of the doddering old man at the head of the country. I mean, the country's not doing all that. Well, unemployment is around twelve percent economy could be doing a lot better. That is. I mean L Jerry is rich in oil and gas and people just got fed up with this absurd. Farce of having an invalid as president. So this is just the will of the people being expressed in. Yes. Certainly tens of thousands of people hundreds of thousands of people even have come out into the streets to demand Bouteflika's resignation at the same time. You could say he was also pushed out by other members of the VAR. Especially the army chief med guide Saleh, and some people see this as sort of preemptive strike by the general against other members of the sort of an attempt for the army to remain the arbiter of Algerian political life. But but all of this has precipitated and election change of leadership in one way or another where does this leave the country, politically, there's meant to be an election in ninety days. I mean, that's the way forward, according to the constitution. We'll see if that actually happens the opposition is in no stage really to mountain affective campaign. They're not all that United the people who come out for protests. Some are liberals summers Llamas some trade unionist what they actually agree on part from wanting to flick to go is not exactly clear. Well, if this sort of power behind the throne still has has the upper hand, and Mr. Bloomberg simply disappears from the scene, and the opposition is messy, and and this organ. I will in election change anything. I mean, that's really questioned right and LG area as much as it seems like this is the end of something. This is really the beginning of the real battle for L, Jerry. And this is what I think things get quite risky because you have the protesters moving closer to the real centers of power, and you have the people in power now struggling to maintain their grip and also struggling to come out on top within their. So the ruling ball, then you have the protesters who can't seem to agree on much. And it's not really clear how they move forward or how they organize how they choose a leader to represent him when free and fair elections actually are held if they are held. So there's all this unrest and protests which were expecting to see again this week a middle. This do you think situation stable worry about how things play out from? Now, you have the generals and the ruling officials warning of bloodshed. But it's telling that only they are warning of potential violence the protest. Have stayed remarkably peaceful during all of this. And I think they will continue to do. So so look this country as hundreds of thousands of people coming onto the street every week it'd be tough to call it stable. But I I think it's unlikely that it would slide back into civil war there enough people in the country. Remember, how bad the civil war was. And I don't think they will let Algieria slide back into that type of violence. So what about outside Algieria in the region in the world more? Generally, how important is this moment is important. I mean, the west sees Algieria as many things, but one of them is as an ally in the war on terrorism and the obviously like that to continue. It's also an expert of oil and gas mostly to Europe. And so they don't wanna see that get cut off. And then Jerry in the region is important. This is a region that has been buffeted by revolution within the past decade. And so other leaders look tell jewelry and some of them perhaps think, oh, this could happen at home at the same time that seem somewhat unlikely Jiri is a bit of a peculiar case it seen as a bit of an outlier in the our boiled. So I don't think there is much risk of contagion here. What do you think ought to happen to kind of bring things back to an even keel? How do you think things should play out from here? Well, I think what you need to see is probably a caretaker government oversee a process that moves Jiri too much more open system, and the first step in that process is probably a national conference because you really need to get all of the different groups within the opposition together to talk things over and figure out exactly what system works. The first step really is the opposition needs to come up with someone who speaks for them, and who can go she ate a sort of way out of this with the old guard. Roger, thanks for your time. My pleasure. This communist podcast is brought to you by linked jobs. If you're looking to hire for your small business linked in jobs is the place to find them people come to linked in everyday to learn and advance their careers. So linked in understands what they're interested in and looking for which means when you use linked in jobs to hire someone you're matches are based on so much more than a resume posted job today at Lincoln dot com slash intelligence and get fifty dollars off your first job post. That's linked dot com slash intelligence. Terms and conditions apply. After the tragedy of the shootings in new Zealand, Prime Minister just into our Dern moved quickly to change the country's gun laws. Today. I'm announcing that New Zealand will ban all military style. Seamy automatic weapons. We will also ban all assault rifles and short every semi automatic weapon. Used in the terrorist attack on Friday will be banned in this country. Elsewhere such legislation is more problematic to introduce and not just in America. It's neighbor to the north is not a country known for gun violence, but a controversy over handgun ownership has been playing out across Canada this week and organization made up of trauma, surgeons emergency room physicians, nurses, paramedics and other health staff held small-scale protests in cities across the country. They're one of many groups calling on the government to enact a complete ban on handguns and sold weapons. This growing debate over gun laws was prompted by shooting in the country's halls of power until twenty second twenty fourteen was a Wednesday. That was the day that the gunman stormed parliament, Madeline Johann is our candidate correspondent. And the first thing that the MP's new was the heard some gunshots. They thought it was construction going on on the center block of the parliament buildings and it wasn't until there was returned fire by the security guards. And by the police that they realized that Harlem it was under attack. They were in a corridor. And at first they realized that they were actually closer to the gunfire. So they reverse course, and they ran away to offices nearby where they hold up and the whole place was in lockdown for five or six hours. The gunman had killed a soldier on his way into the building. None of the parliamentarians was hurt. The attack started a conversation in Canadian politics that has been intensifying the debate is gained urgency now because there have been several shooting incidents since twenty fourteen the one that really brought this to prominence was last summer in Toronto. There was a gunman who went out on the shooting spree and he wounded something like thirteen people and he killed an eighteen year old a ten year old and that was followed up by the city council. Toronto saying that it would ask the federal government for complete handgun ban in Toronto. And then Montreal followed that up so that really sort of picked up the pace of the discussion about guns in Canada and handguns in particular. As in America. The issue is deeply divisive among those opposing changes to gun laws. One of the members of parliament who was forced to run for safety in the twenty fourteen shooting. Thank you for calling me back on you've been very outspoken on this. I know you've got a e petition. I was just looking on the conservative politicians that left their caucus room was Michelle rim. Pell who's young MP from Albert right like within the house of Commons. I would actually sort of pushed out into the into the gunfire. An incident that happened here in October twenty four and she told me she was like very affected by everything that had gone on. It was deeply disturbing to me. I deeply affected me, and I in so she decided to talk to friends and get some counseling in that. And she said one of her friends said to our a remark that really sort of hit home. She never would have happened. If people weren't allowed to old guns in Canada, or if there were stricter firearms legislation, and you know, I really took that hard. And this is why I went through the whole proof that learning about how firearm for regulated in Canada as a legislator. I wanted to. She reviewed all the rink Yele Latian about gone ownership in Canada. And she came to sort of a surprising conclusion, she decided to quit take gun regulations. And not only that she decided to improve surroun- hand gun for target practice and that made her go through the entire process which lasted almost a year. She said between wind she applied in when she'd finished all the background checks tests. And when she actually got her gun, she's become one of the most prominent advocates for gun ownership in Canada. It's it's a very counterintuitive response for someone who you know, a face to life or death situation issue being taking serious. As an advocate in in this role. What do people make of that? Well, she is being taken seriously, though, certainly not everyone agrees with her. You will find in Canada that the gun owners many in them tend to be rural residents in. That's in fact, where the conservative party is also very strong on the other side of the divide though are the mainly urban residents, and they're really against gun ownership. So they take her seriously, but they don't agree with her and acting bans of that sort and even talk of a federal ban is that certainly wouldn't get anywhere in America. What does the gun debate look like in Canada as compared to the states? Well, there are several important differences, and then some parallels. Now, the differences are that the Canadian constitution does not have any right to bear arms. The other thing is that comes up frequently in the American debate is this right to self-defence in Canada. There is no right to self-defense using a gun. Now, the similarities are in both places. You'll you'll see this sort of rural urban divide where farmers who live in isolation. Areas would like to have a gun and not just for self defense. Of course. But to kill predators pests. So they don't get really why that people in the cities are against Hogan's. And as for the liberal prime minister Justin Trudeau where does he stand on the issue? He hasn't really disclosed exactly where he stands in. This is on the handgun ban after the shooting in Toronto and the request by the city's for handgun bans, he asked one of his ministers to look into it. Now that minister has been consulting across Canada, and will at the end of those consultation to make a recommendation to the government. And then that's when we'll see what Mr. Trudeau really believe should be done. Right. And there's a general election in Canada later this year. I will it will it be a big campaign issue. We'll report come up before the the the election, or do we know guns will be part of the election debate in Canada. If very much depends what happens before then as you mentioned the report. So if the government makes a decision one way. Or another that will raise the the gun debate in prominence during the election campaign. So will though any other shooting that takes place, and I would say in Canada and the US because every time there's a big incident in the US that makes it into all the Canadian papers as well in it revives the debate again. So if unfortunately there is another big shooting in the US or Canada than the campaign will feature gun rights for sure. In britain. Today's the deadline for businesses to report their annual gender, pay gap, measuring how much more men get paid than women do for equivalent work. Similar rules are already in place in Germany and France. And governments around the world are getting serious at tracking and tackling. The disparity in America legislation to mandate pay gap. Reporting is tied up in the courts, one big factor in how much less women get paid whether they've had children what happens to pay packages. When people become parents quite different between what happens to follow this as price two hands to mothers. Marie Sega is a data journalist at the economist. And she's got a novel way of sharing her notes say not as are known to Safran what we call the motherhood penalty, meaning that endings decrease, for example, because they choose to wax, you hours. They choose to not at all. But also because that annex decrease because they choose to work different jobs exam. But I tried to find that isn't quite as demanding and give some more time for care, and that might mean taking pan cut as well. It's a what what sort of conditions affect the size of the motherhood penalty slice. The mother panty deficits in different countries. Say public policies generally fan the motherhood penalty quiet law sympa in Sweden, they really paternity leave. And the why says that if father stone? Take the time sleeve than it doesn't automatically guided mother they can only take as couple if the Fava tax which means that middle of developers actually take paternity leave. And then another thing that studies have found that the motherhood penalty is bigger mothers. Whose are in mother was to stay at home mother when they were children. So it's going to about both personal histories and public policy stuff. Yes. And I can save differences. Schumi you say this night, but percents the average salary of Swedish father to be one year before having a child each following. Leonard represents a drop of one percent. After five years. The average father salary has gone back up to its pre pre-tax level. And beyond. And so what about Swedish mothers? How does the the motherhood penalty? Look for them say in Sweden after ten years. A mother salary goes from here. Oh, that's a drug of twenty seven percent, which sounds like a lot. I mean, how does that compare to to other countries that that might have different policies British mothers and Futi focus and less than before they had a child. And mothers in my home country. Germany the most affected. while so Germany really hit some low notes Marie? Thanks very much for sounding this out with us. Thank you day sin. Thanks to having me. That's all for this episode of the intelligence if you like us give us a rating on apple podcasts, and you can subscribe to the economist at economist dot com slash radio often twelve issues for twelve dollars which will clouds see back here tomorrow.

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Friday Four

Outside the Lines

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Friday Four

"Power-washing our way into the weekend is the Friday, four on outside kiddos. I'm Clinton Yates big stories about this week as the NBA NHL crown first time champions team USA celebrated at big time at the World Cup. I this is just in the elevated California. Shares office has confirmed. It is investigating last night's post-game courtside incident seen on video from NBC bay area involving raptors president of basketball operations beside Jiri. According to reports jury pushed a deputy after he was stopped as he tried to join team on the floor to celebrate the raptors first NBA title. I'm going to jump in here Daego. I spent a lot of my life on the road as a musician when you started to or you're given a pass, and I have been on tour with aks, whose faces were on the side of trucks, backstage, the couldn't get to the stage because they didn't have their pass at the end of the day security guards, just doing his job, which means you keep that area safe, especially in a world where the NBA's had issues with people, shoving people. They shouldn't you keep these people safe, everybody that's on there. If you want to be on the floor, get a pass, or get somebody there that will allow him to get that access. Get to this later, but the point is security, there to protect Jiri from everybody else. Not to protect themselves from Jerry. Anyway, the NBA Katie goes down the warriors of doing a lot to me. I guess I just not just. K. D. Where or the warriors for you right now. Shop, you know, look, I think it's a big question, Mark. Right. I mean when you talk about arguably the best player in the world, we simply don't know if he will ever again be what he has been last several years. How can you answer any of those questions, with any kind of definitive nece? And then you throw on top of that what happened with Klay Thompson. We're talking about an ACL. This is an insignificant. This isn't a head cold. We're talking about another potentially career altering if not ending injury, everything. Right now is a question Mark for the warriors. It's been a remarkably bad week for them despite the fact that they were able to force it game six and it's not just questions about their future on the court, but about the organization as well. Let me have the opportunity to be melodramatic air. It's not just about the warriors. It's about the entire MBA. How many franchises across the league had been telling their fan base don't worry. We might stink now but we're gonna be great only hit the summer twenty nineteen because we're going to get a great. free agent. Now we're in a situation where you don't know what you can Bank on Katie. If you're going to sign him, Claes, top five free agent. You don't know of he's going to be even if he hits the market, who will he be? We're in a situation now where suddenly the best. And maybe only top five free agent available could be Kyrie. That's not save your franchise guy. What the big trend story for me. And this NBA finals at slowed management, Leonard told ESPN's, Rachel Nichols when he would not be in this place. He didn't have rest this season. He played only sixty games this is a second final in four years, where it's been decided by major injuries. I think this is a huge story going forward of players of teams resting their star players this whatever you say about this organization. At least they gave why the leverage to do that. I mean, overall here my issue is this is the warriors earned -sulting my intelligence. I mean serve curse coming out here talking about. We had no idea we would taken by surprise yadda yadda. I'm I'm sorry can look sit on my couch say that. Looks like it might be an achilles in the next game it happens. Don't follow up with me. Oh, my staff had no idea. I don't care if. Didn't have any idea they didn't know they should have known if they didn't know didn't protect him from it. That's a problems. But Kevin Durant people were involved in the decision that allowed, Kevin Durant to get back on the court as well. So that's fine themselves at some point at some point, though. I mean he's an adult. He's thirty years old. There is informed consent. We send boxers at into the ring every night is we will tomorrow night on ESPN. They know what the dangers are. Maybe that's not the most perfect analogy here. But, you know, if he had his own medical team told them, this is okay to and he made that decision. I just think there was a toxic environment ever since he came to Oakland about what he was dedicated to for that team from various reason, that's it was built up over the course of two seasons. You've got to play in this game. We need a pound of flesh or else. We're not going to consider any of this stuff legitimate, and that's what I have an issue. But if we take that stance, then you take the stance, Kevin Durant is so soft he won't consider his own future so off pressure about but pressure like he's a grown man. And he's the best player in the NBA right now. He is fully capable of looking at his own situation just like Hawaii ended when he walked away from the Spurs and said you can't make me play. So we're going to acknowledge that Kawai has the strength to do that. But Katie doesn't do for human beings doesn't have the same sort of. I don't know. Conversational syndicate, does anyway, moving on national TV, of course playing in the women's World Cup put up two touchdowns. One point after try I guess Thailand thirteen death. They got into a lot of discussion, Emily how they chose to celebrate their copious amounts to me was over reported ad nauseam. I wonder if the people who actually criticize these women for celebrating so much scoring. So many goals, actually put themselves in these women's shoes, if they considered how much pressure they've had over the last couple of months to repeat as champions. The media twin been let alone the fact that brought litigation against their own federation for gender discrimination for all of that said, I think the little rich to upper us the police, how these women should or should not celebrate it perform on the field. Well, we talk a lot on this show about celebrating. It was ago, I was pretty Derek Dietrich homerun celebrations on this show. So we talk about, I think this is interesting, I think there is room and I've been looking at all of the clips. About this from everyone just about. The reaction to this. Our own Julie Foudy who I deferred usually in these things, one of the icons of the team. She said, I think they went too far hope solo said, she thought they went too far they're entitled to their opinion. I think what's, what's more. Interesting here is how so many people seem eager to jump on them, and it's not necessarily about the discussion about the celebrations but it's kind of a proxy conversation about women's sports, in general, that we're still struggling in this country to have a fair discussion about. They are underpaid the women relative to the men. They are under appreciated relative. The men they've been struggling to make a go of their professional league here in the United States military put. It's all in the kind. That's what the reaction, I think, has been so strong on both sides. It's like you can't criticize them at all. Because in these other respects, they have not been dealt with fairly, and I think, that's part of the discussion where you work your whole life. Your sacrifice everything to get the opportunity to play soccer at the highest level. You've done everything that your body could ask you to get to the highest platform, which is the World Cup. And then you score goal and we get to suddenly, tell you what level of celebration is appropriate for a life's work. I have no issue with going in celebrating that glorious moment. Don't act like you've been there before when you've never been there before, and you may not get there again. It's a lifetime's work to get there. Let them celebrate and other thing is women. Didn't create the role goals differential counts in this tournament. They didn't create the role, equally three south. I'm sure they would put in the rest of their bench, if they could. This is the world champion. Do we different argument than the celebration? I think at this point everybody says, if you wanted to score thirty one Austrailia did against American Samoa number years ago. Then then go also, let's not throw the baby out with the bath. I don't have to hate women's everything think celebration was wack and I happen to think that couple of Iraq on their own stand there. That's all later switching used to David Ortiz, six men, including the alleged gunman in custody, and several other suspects are still at large in the Sunday shooting. A former Red Sox star David Ortiz, in the Dominican Republic police are alleging that the man who coordinated the shooting was offered four hundred thousand American pistols, or about seventy eight hundred dollars to carry out the crime, but they declined to identify who offered the money. Meanwhile, according to update somewhere teases wife, Tiffany, poppy is in guarded condition, but has been able to sit up and take some steps he remains in the intensive care unit at Boston's Mass General hospital. You spend a lot of time in Boston. I this story off the top was very odd. You know. You hate to see I cons like this put themselves or get in situations. All sorts of speculation comes around about who's doing what why anybody is elsewhere, but I oughta magically think of the people of the DR, who root for and care about diversity and the people in Boston. Yeah. You know, I've been in Boston all sprang, covering the Bruins, and I just can't express enough but appreciation they have for him. He exudes joy, he exudes strength, obviously, was there after the Boston marathon, and it was a beacon of hope and, you know, when I was covering the Bruins everyone was talking about who's going to be the flag that for the last game was going to be Tom Brady. I was told that he had prior obligations was going to be Tim. Thomas is pretty much lived in a bunker since twenty eleven when he won the Stanley Cup. But the thing that was getting people, the most excited was this rumor going around that big Papi was going to a message from his hospital bed, that would brought the roof down David Ortiz, assemblies establish. He is not just an everyday kind of icon, the star the history of the Boston Red Sox. He is arguably the most beloved player in the history. I might have Ted Williams bigger star. I'm just going to say baseball, whatever we get to that. But what happened six years ago in the aftermath of the Boston marathon, bombings, I was at Fenway that day when he made his speech, he became an emblem for the city for the region and beyond as well. He became someone beloved by all Americans in a way that we don't see very often these days with baseball players you mentioned, the rumor mill this is one of those moments in life, where it's not about being I it's not about being loudest. It's about being patient. We're getting information from a different area. That's trying to give us what's going on criminally in this investigation. It would be great if we could all calm down on the rumor portion of it, and let this case, we're out, so we can get actual facts before we react to rooting for property coming up Nick VIN, exiles life has changed. Find out why and the Cavs making historic higher. Geico presents yet. Another voicemail from your roommate. Doubt the kitchen turns out when there's a grace fire, you're not supposed to throw water on it. Wouldn't own right? Anyways, the fire department is here and it's totally cool. Can you call back when you get a chance? The Geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected like if danger is your roommates middle name, visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance. Welcome back to the Friday force the discovery of the week week that is easy for me to say, let's read some tweets, look at Nikki had an iced coffee. For the first time yesterday. My new drink sidebars twenty nineteen next week good night set. Upset is coffee in the AM for me can't wait. Let's say. So. Ice coffee, this morning, just one of that. Everybody know on Twitter followers. Everybody say my phone a friend of my family. Disappointed. About is coughing before. So we'll disappointed but. Since it tastes. Good. Forget y'all outrage. It is outrageous. I mean what happens when he discovers cold brew five times better? Outrage Bruce to boost. I can't afford correct. Raised cheaper shooting ice call and he will do they have the cafeteria sonic. I. It is coffee. Tells imagine going the first forty seven years of your life. And then all of a sudden rut introduced to coffee. It's amazing ice copy, this budget's going to be good just down. Dick vitelle under reported stories. I really what you got. Yeah. The cath higher Lindsay Gottlieb, as assistant coach and I love it. I think this is a trend that should be going forward in sports. And, you know, I cover hockey for a living and Tronto Maples are the team that are setting the standard with hiring women to their front, office and Kyle Dube is hired Hayley Wickenheiser their head of player development highest role ever held by a female, also the first ever female fulltime scout Noel Needham. And he said, if we're only hiring white males were excluding, a lot of big qualified candidates out there. So I love with the cows did here, also because I mean, they hired her from a big time program. This is not just some wanna be some Rando, who came up their system. They got her away from which was already doing which to me says a lot about what women's opportunities in terms of what you go one route, you're not just but police in that sense isn't the NBA sort of still ahead of everybody. This. I mean game respects game, the NBA respect between the WNBA in the NBA from the players is one thing. Now we see coach leaving a successful college program to go. Join to join a staff here in the NBA. It just continues to assimilate into a world where I don't think gender really matters to anybody. That's involved in that league. It's one of the things that's inspiring about it. Hopefully, I just hope I'm related my mother's maiden name was Gottlieb in trying to figure out what do you get tickets out of that? If you're nice, you're other, I'll give you another reported story. It has to do with the New England Patriots. I know that sounds impossible. But by way of the patriots it involves the Texans the patriots have filed tampering charges against the Texans who last week, fired their general manager Brian gain. And in the course of this, the patriots, he's gone after Kazan the vice player vice president player personnel for the patriots. They filed the tampering charges, that's not the most under reported part of it. The most under reported part of this is that we're holding the Texans continually two different standard than we would hold the jets. The jets fire their GM in an awkward time for everybody and sports. Media explodes because it's New York. This is with Houston a division champion team coming off an eleven five season that should be in playoff contention. Again this year with a star quarterback, and we're not even talking about the fact that they've done this the complete wrong time in the complete wrong way. I'll tell you. It's most remarkable in that be roles. That was it. Vero. Machine. And if that's one of those fifteen years, right afford, real digital legitimately serious. Art. I'm trying to give great this love at this machine. Ties are all these phones courts this. As doing watch my real all done. I love that. Sorry, I see. This is the whole this part of the problem here. I am trying to bring awareness to the Texans not being held to the standard as the jets. I mean every time wait you told me I couldn't do it now, you're at my brain. This is what's got me worked up this week. Okay. I o see announcing this week that they were stripping the silver medallist from lift Lithuania. A canoeist silver medallist of his silver medal, every tested positive for steroids, like seventeen syllables silver, battles silver medallists, two ADM Lithuania. Trinidad sink country canoeist. I talk about this. Here's the headline though, you could see it. I was building up through it. But, you know, the thunder's been stolen from the twenty twelve Olympics in London seven years ago in they said, we had to do this before the statute of limitations runs out next year. They're going to continue to, I mean, after seven years. He gets a phone call. You weren't steroids. Back in twenty two fair. When he brought out a more day, I completely forgot where this what he's hoping that because. Next won the French Open. But lost Jeremy shafts love and we celebrate Lord Stanley's Cup in the peaceful transfer from power for Washington to Saint Louis. Got it fits boom. Saturday you could always see this on ESPN plus Tyson fury takes on Tom Schwartz. In the scheduled, twelve round made of 'em GM grin garden arena in Las Vegas, both fighters coming onto feed it, you can stream the under cards on ESPN two and he's deported starting at seven eastern chapel. Be there. Sportscenter six eastern. Keith olbermann. Lease icing sheet with the raptors went in the NBA China last night. They'll have the latest on the draft and free agency plus the most notable NFL minicamp. No-shows in interview with heavyweight Tyson fury. Sportscenter after PTI on ESPN the ESPN app right now. Here the fans cheering on surprised by that in and the players are telling them not to be doing that. Plus, these fans have been wonderful, but the tier for player who gets injured. Jason Budo sage. I don't know that not enough. There's some nights probably deserved it. This is a terrible. Look for Toronto sports city, which, by the way, I'm side on this show. Couple of weeks ago and said they got great shine for the way this entire process. Look, you get such a sales pitch of who we are sports city in these finals opportunities when you do. And it's not just in the arena was also interesting part when you take that approach to the best player going down. It's an absolutely savage. Look when you pay for a ticket to a game, which are paying for is entertainment. At some point, you may want your team to win but to want someone to be injured to make that happen is absolutely not even human. And the raptors fans are good should look to the raptors fans that are not and remind them that every single fan is Representative of a brand those fans represented the Toronto in Toronto Raptors brand as poorly as possible, and that's make light of this. But when you throw in the critique of the US women's national team by the members of the Katie in women's national teams, probably the worst week for US Canada relations, since the war eighteen twelve I'll I have to say they've been spending a lot. Time with Canadians spring and the Stanley Cup playoffs. Not all of them agree with us. A lot of them are embarrassed. They say sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm willing to give to run a little bit of a pass for just a quick reaction. Something they didn't know it was that. And then taking it back and Chinese, that's fair. But I will say this is a lifelong raiders fan for me. There's a certain reputation that comes with a certain fan base is, that's not based on the way, most of them act, the reputation of fan base is based on the worst, the worst apples do poison the welfare, everybody. That's the situation here for Toronto. Right. Or wrong. That's what people will partially. Remember of this series, I got I went to Penn State. I'm known as the person who flipped over in his truck. Clay. Rafael Nadal, winning his twelve French Open. I mean it's so mind boggling it so unfathomable that anyone could win twelve of the same major tournament. I mean when I was growing up. Royal Merson had the record twelve total. He wants six Australian Opens that scene like that would never be challenged my problem with Raphael. And the Dow, he's my villain because he's ruined this tournament. There is. No suspense. Let's face it anymore. He's too good for the good of the French Open, which is one of the great sports, have you ever covered it if you ever been around in the history of the world, you know, people tell you dynasty grade, etc. In this case, it's gone onto long fought him. I'm not telling you should stop, but it's to be falling in the ground every time he wins it like he's never done it before. That's my dear that's very, very good point. But what Bob even I know you're waiting for me to get to the nineteen sixty track. What did to the long jump in nineteen sixty five twenty nine two and a half ruining the event? Centrally for fifteen years before Carl Lewis. Mike pal verbs it exactly to beaming something, let's get to the hero. See well done my hero Carlyle for those who don't understand what happened last night, besides got involved in, but we'll just call altercation with a security guard at Auckland Rina's to county. This is some sort of share situation count. He says come here, let me say something to you what happens before. This is a very simple situation happens in a lot of black people's lives, where you're forced to encounter a position of authority, and you ask yourself. I'm not gonna let myself disrespected going to try to get out of the situation. Kyle from that. Okay. And there's a moment of brotherhood, embraces him and says, we're not letting this happen right now not on our watch not in our time. Not in this space drags him out of there. There's another angle where you can see a little differently. You can see the stair on guard's face Kyle Lowry after you endured, what you get in the crowd in excuse me in Oakland as well. Good on you might hear the week in real life. Forget about this program carry your next back to the tear bat to French clay actually Bharti's hero. The Australian who's now number two in the world. She wins the French Open her first major victory. The amazing thing about her story and their many amazing elements to her story when she was a junior, she was ranked as high as number two in the world juniors when she's eighteen years old or was it seventeen years old. She walks away from tennis, entirely to pursue a career in cricket in professional cricket. She didn't even really have experience in cricket. She spends two years, she's burned out in tennis comes back comes back three years ago. Steady rise up the rankings. It's a remarkable story of, and that's why she's my hero fits my hero. Jordan Bennington Saint Louis blues, goalie, there are a lot of here of the blues in this one, but fourteen in two after a loss in the Stanley Cup playoff for rookie goaltender is incredible work by him. It's why they host the hoisted the Cup night here. The week is eleven year old Layla. Anderson from state Laurie. Yeah, more putts. He has a rare autoimmune disease, only fifteen kids in the world have been diagnosed with this for a long time, only go from the hospital to her home. She had to go bone marrow transplants and chemo. But in the hospital, she prevented a lot of blues players. And when she finally got clearance to travel the team insisted she go to game seven the Stanley Cup final in Boston. She was there on the ice. She kissed the Cup and the cutest thing I talked to after the game she predicted a rally was going to score the first goal her months at n not. So sure she said mom, you'd never doubt, Brian Riley, and you never doubt me, shut also sidewalk bread whole not a long time. Actually.

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The Platform - Sugar, We're Goreng Down

For Your Reference

51:48 min | 1 year ago

The Platform - Sugar, We're Goreng Down

"It's another week in the foyer. Reference House auto and starting off with your phrase Oh mine and residential permanently. I am your loyal trusted. Sage and Very appropriately. My ancient proverb is based on greed. Okay interesting very interesting And it's an Arabic proverb. I think the first time we've ever used an Arabic proverb before close to Sahelian him. All right I it's from the INTERWEB. Serve as accurate as we can all must serve. The phrase is all the proverb greed lessons. What is gathered pretty much means for people and you have resources rentals crumble for eight and you'll be left with Nada Nine to get what you want from greed. You'll losing your sense of humanity because you a stepping on mother. Focus to get where you want to guard. So you've lost part of yourself for all of that great lessons resources or how. I'm right day. This is not the same species addition overthinking me. You will respect me as third hole. You Datu pig You you know you thought okay so I trick third already exciting yourself. Chapman motherfuckers as you will be for the rest of time Thank you so much. What the fuck. Let's get on with the show guys. Hey friends and lovers welcome back to forty reference got hers. Katie and not and I am so on those snails and decide whether you want to discard or Cape. You'll sense of kindness. Oh discard discard hot. Diggity dog because this week we diving into L. and those non Spanish speaking this is the platform the platforming deed. And I really feel like this. This episode essentially is going to be a platform for general soda discussion because it sets a platform to discuss such things damn dog. You didn't know you'd get such volume stood off about A. We like the bog and been of podcasts. Some days we're wondering why we can't see Jackie Chan's diarrhea and some days we're having some real conversations about social class. You choose what you WANNA listen to friends and lovers Let's get into stats? Which is usually what we get into. I couldn't really find anything in regards to budget. I guess for this sort of tight. Well even before net flicks this film premiered at the two Thousand Nineteen Toronto International Film Festival where it won the People's choice award for midnight madness. And what an APT category to win. What an injury and it was actually at the tiff which is what all the sinophile. Give me time to pull over from my glasses up. It was actually at the tip that the film secured a worldwide streaming deal with net flicks. So it's not all of course it's regional. Why did I even think that only because they put Netflix original county? Your mother's like it's always been like you need to settle down my peeps national better yet never But welcome welcome. Welcome this is going to be a very interesting episode. I would say Let's just quickly go through the cost. I. I like to pretend I'm Spanish. But it's quite Clara that I'm not Directing we have Gowda got still your thank you. Thank you for allowing me to passer. We also have written by David Zola. And also biddle. Rivero not put the accent wherever again Also starring Ivan Massage Zoran Equa and the whole slew of a dodged Jiri This was actually based off a play. They added some more physical elements and characteristics more texture layers or platforms if you will Just to make it more suitable for film but then you go are we done can we Earthy and I have a very delicious very delectable bottle of red wine which I feel is very fitting for this episode because if you're a fossil teeth flow you barely get anyone if any. Oh Yes oh yes and unfortunately there are places where you can start their much worse. If we're talking about a high rocky out dog definitely gets the cream of the crop and we get the scraps in the foyer reference household. But you get in where you can get in So let's talk about first impressions We haven't really come across the works of the director. All the writers In General Ivan was actually in Pan's labyrinth or so. I'm not sure if you want to include that but I guess just give you a general sort of first impressions about this movie. I didn't know he was in Ponds Labyrinth. Because I can't remember him. Maybe he was pan. Who only showed up for like two seconds. We watched that trailer of this. I think last week and it just it just called me because I felt like it was going to be interesting. I'm going to win in this sort of social political statement that they're trying to make and I was enthralled all donald all in for it and watching it it didn't disappoint me a had qualms though towards the end while the strong it started off very very strong but the calm was that I didn't agree with the sort of ending it. I thought they wanted to be More more one dot you dot. It should have been yeah. Baen spoiler spoiler spoiler obviously GonNa talk about spoilers in this episode. But I saw how how turns your face was when the credits rolled because I was like was that it and then ended and you look so sour. And if you've watched this show you understand. Sometimes people want to be too clever for their own good and it backfires and I feel like it backfired he. Yeah I love holy a massive. You know deeply personal and sometimes it's just a few sort of characters. I really enjoy the saw movies. I actually prefer these movies. Compared to Yoho Moore can flags Michael Bay. `Sms all of the action all of the explosives. I actually prefer stories that You know almost simple in nature. But they're multi-layered in their messaging. So I was really enjoying This film and there was so much I wanted to be able to discuss and bring examples from the film and you know how you can tied into real life That I felt was executed. Quite well Even the interactions that we have between the characters I thought was quite interesting too but it really fell flat. If you'll pardon the platform like a really felt flat and obviously we'll get to like the end of the film but I WANNA give an example of a film that we watched that is very very similar in the sense of social commentary and it's kind of within one sort of set the film that was recently with Jimmy Chen and Colin Salmon for example We kind of got lost throughout the movie but I think overall it kind of worked more if we talk about like just watching it as a whole movie. I felt like exam kind of executed a bit better only because they this. This film started off like so strong even the even the middle like even the extra interactions that goring has with the other characters it reinforces his sense of self so we were really bolstering up for a wholly satisfying end and we didn't get that all we do. But you know that until you get to the end right no you. Wouldn't you really want it? And I feel like the sort of authorities I was expecting to feel at the end of this movie was short lived where I felt like the whole sort of narrative trying to be off at. It's what I could get out of. The movie wasn't really delivered in that. All of it was left up to me to derive. Which isn't a problem isn't a problem. But when it's done like this especially when they started with such a strong build it becomes sort of a of a premature ejaculation sort of thing. Yeah and that's a sad time for all. That's a jerry from Rick. And morty sort of scenario I'm not making any claims but you know he seems like he's in the right Ballpark Let let's talk about the. Let's talk about the movie just generally How do you feel about how Goring as a CACA. 'cause he kind of he kind of walks us through the social commentary in his interactions and even in his own sort of sense of self. So how did you feel about him as a character? I think he symbolized much what anybody would do in that situation going that not really fully expecting what he got and quickly realizing that he'll need to adopt and do things that you never envisioned in his life. Well quickly is a relative term. Because he wasn't latching on as quickly as I wanted him to he was therefore we can do really starting to bad mouth him if he'd been there for months on end. Yeah like literally in a prison and you see your platform and you see food. They're nothing but the foster you get there and then you see things that have been stepped on half eaten this probably pace enrich on it like our. Yeah get back into the Salem time you would not even touch thought. No but if I am in some sort of confinement and you see the world that we're in even we had that old man character Three Mugabe even. He was like he was giving him a heads up right. He was telling him all of this sort of stuff and he didn't really take the information in that bulletin me and anyway that's just the Katie qualm. I have a problem with like the protagonist taking too long to accept the world and the role that they're going to play. So that's that's something I have with everything. Not necessarily you know specifically to this movie but you know even the sexiest back from what you said. The administers theon is what they called it right. That's the they referred to as whatever the Powell is were that were controlling the vertical self management center. I feel like and again. It might just be me and the way. I consume stuff. It wasn't strong enough because he volunteered to go there yet. He knew nothing of it so I thought that was a bit of week writing. If you're going to put yourself on. What was it? What was he volunteering to do? Not Maybe he's just some sort of social experiment and the fact that it would take six months to get an advanced deplore for your time being in in in some sort of cell who wouldn't take up I take the over studying for years to get bloody diploma in the first place okay friends and lovers earthy also belongs to like a hundred different religions because he continues to collect pamphlets that before out on the street so that explains a lot about what you're saying but I would not fucking sign up for anything. I didn't know what the details were well. You didn't really think you'll be something illegal. As far fetched as what we saw. In any case it distracted me distracted. Me 'cause Mike. It's not strong enough like I get that. We're in he and we're barbaric and we're all going to table a pot literally But how did we even get? There is my point and then you also have immigrant the lady with the dog and she had some sort of idea but she also volunteered herself as well and less it it kind of is like a prison because so you have goring. And he's kind of like an academic right but then you also have trauma Ghazi. The old man and he chose to go to a mental hospital. Or you went there. The whole they say the whole I guess I think about Moore can stuff where they build them up. Yeah Right. So that's that's what I thought like remember in prison break. Yeah that's what I thought they were talking about. Unless it's just this is where we decide to put people when we don't want to deal with them. It feels really legal. But they did a distract you. Maybe you're just distracted me. It just bothered me. It didn't distract me at all. It just bothered me a bit because he seemed so clueless as to what was going on. Mcgary didn't even know what she was. She had worked there for fifty years or whatever media was but if she knew exactly what was going on which voluntee- nobody likes she had trust in administration was for an employee to have trust in that administration. I won't even have anyone under sixteen on their. She clearly didn't know them as well as she could. So how do you expect our protagonist to know? Well the interesting thing and let let's bring some real shit into it I think immigration is a good example of companies literally only carrying four employees as much as they can milk it out of them. So why why? Why does she need to New York once? You're done with you once you've slaved for years and hours of your and your efforts which is going to throw you into the vertical center. Well she did well in tier to go there because she had concert and it wasn't going to go so you know what I'm saying like you know there's a lot of messaging to be made about society and how you higher powers whether it's they administer theon or it's people on the higher levels treat mystery and continue to do so on a ever flowing sorta basis or degree so. I thought that was quite interesting after their own level forty eight. They go all the way down to one seven one. I'm pretty sure. And the difference in food and forty and we cut to grand being tied up You had a problem with that. Yes just because my problem was not really a problem. It was just a wonderful way. Maybe the gas has a significantly higher effect on him. Because what that old man. Maybe he's been exposed gosawx affected in last long. Well grab TINFOIL HATS. Fans love it. 'cause it happened again with immigration where she managed to wake up and kill herself. Yeah Hung herself while he was still passed out. Yeah this idea I think this was one of fast gusts experiences still up before the other ones all dot goes pretty much throws my theory of less than employees. Getting guests subtly the whole time. Maybe maybe so. Maybe I've got my tinfoil hat on his apparently but it was interesting. And you know we have. We have sought to watch dexter myself for the first time. Not For the second time and yes there are moments where I feel like in scary cases. Identify with DEX UP. However I'm not a fucking psycho but however when I'm watching a film and I get the premise of it. I mean so when the old man tied up graying I was like this makes sense. He's coming off really cold and he saying you know you're not gonNA turn on me now but you will eventually that make complete sense to me. I don't think he would have though but he had been yet. Come on he would it? Did you already takes up us on? It takes up personality completely. Go From and I think that's not fair to attack someone's character in times of struggle and that can drop us because we we love by right. Exactly what laugh by symbolized when they were stuck in the and the and he had spa spoiler alert spoiler spoiler explained the meaning of it. I'll just sort of say. Well DOT CA entailed and I it pretty much was them being stranded in ocean and having to survive and people. Disappearing right yeah. He managed to stay strong. Not only him but another like it's all about the character and the resilience you have to to be better to see to have the fortitude all the fortitude. Don't you reckon? Well I see your life of Pi and I raise you alive about the euro grind. Both your why the Uruguay rugby team. And my point is. I don't think it's fat to denote to someone. Sense of self on what they would do under the most harshest of conditions. Did you learn nothing from this bill? Well me I learned a lot. Though not completely stranded they had water and Mahnken survival in water for a long time. It was cleaned. Supply the DRINKWATER. You didn't have to the surreally gorging people after two weeks alone eating meat but what you're not understanding is the old man had already lived the whole year of it. He just made assumptions. But even when the lady came onto the scene and goering was trying to school her there was still that barrier that they had between each other so imagine a whole year of doing it only been doing it for one or two months at that time but even he had felt that that burden of survival and he held out for a long time right. So what what? What I'm saying is I don't think it's fair. It's if we're talking about applying this onto social commentary it's like saying people that had little -tunities than you should have just worked harder You see what I'm saying. So when you're on one hundred seventy one and no food is coming there at all. Lindelof is off on holiday. He's not helping you off the island. Sir. That's a lost reference friends and lovers took and it's different because even on an island you can still try and find shit right but you're in a confined soda space. There's no magic sort of power that's going to save you. You need to survive yourself which is weird. Like you'd think start eating on the nails before they start gouging each other's body Fox. There's just a difference of opinion and earthy is that Yummy Yum. They'll take me like two minutes before I saw nibbling on him But that's a story for another day but I'm just saying I don't think it's fair like I don't think yet maybe people could have held out longer but what Herp what sort of beacon did they have That someone was going to come and save them so I don't think that's fair. No it's just a different opinion fully understand that eight children but I'm just saying I'm just saying if we're in this world where it's ruthless and it's cut third and people are just out there for themselves. Then yeah they kind of native forest themselves go fair Enough Fair Enough. I just I just wanted the old man to give the guard chance. He's of course. He's being tainted by his by his experience little. Nobody's old man. He could be overpowered very easily. He had enough as a backup. Can barely breathe like. How is that going to help? He was just so ready to assume this role without giving an opportunity. It's like Clinton Slim Quinn just went one hundred just Brooke Body in an instant like far out man. Where's the build up? Yes he's been there for longer. But you have to give people a chance especially when you see that. They're not exactly. It's not their major. Are you going to say like you would have to watch clean slim lap for you can pass but it's just interesting it's interesting because I think a lot of the time you know. The viewer can take on that role through the eyes of going right so he. He has a slow descent into madness. If you will For me it could happen. It could have happened a lot sooner for you. It was just right. Yeah so I guess it's more just a matter of opinion not necessarily facts because it is a movie. Tv podcast guys settled down. It's up that serious gone punchy. Simply but it's very interesting and I want to talk a little bit about the hierarchy Because I think that's quite a lot of discussion to be had so when we first start we have ring and Trim Agasi is walking him through. Don't even bother talking to the people above you and we don't even talk to the people blurt because they below you so I just I want to talk a bit about the layers of hierarchy that we have and how people understand and they stay within that so it's pretty much like the cost them in a radical self monitoring center. It's really sad and especially when Emma. Gory came and said that that was enough food to feed everyone on the levels. If everyone took abortion you know and she started doing things on a plate in going at you so eager and I'd say now you've definitely especially because she was part of the company exactly trying to make everyone to put their push on a plate and it will go down with the revolt they need. But that's not how it is especially when you're spent the last month on a lower level where you didn't get anything and then all of a sudden you have all this food in abundance. I think a big sort of theme to this film is why would I because there was nothing stopping them from helping particular rules that you know that the administration put in place in regards to? You can't take food once it's off the platform and that SORTA thing but there were no rules in regards to An egalitarian sort of a perch Right so yeah she. She definitely tried But you can't force people but then you also had bearing threatening them to live in harmony by shitting on there a threatening food right and I it's interesting because they they talk about The old man talks about when growing brings up the first time. How no one's going to listen to a communist like trying to share all of the resources and it's an interesting but in regards to the Vertical Self Management Center the difference between that and the cost system is. You're not like that. That's the way you stay. You can actually move up and down at any time so at least in that case you can be up one day just one day and then the rest of your life out you know what I mean like. Get some sort of glory but the interesting thing was. I'm not sure if it was once one. I think it might have been further down. But Greg was really really struggling and then he went up to six. Do you remember the interesting thing was? He was lot like it. Seemed like he was upset and he he maybe perhaps felt bad that he had so much abundance. That was an interesting sort of thing interesting. And and you could see when the food came on the platform Lord. He didn't even partake in much. He saw his favorite food. Which was the snails? Have you tried sales before? I have At a restaurant in Sydney and I'm not sure if it's still around but it was called the little snail US call us closed due to health hospital suffering. Snails eight yeah yeah I. I don't remember if I liked it or not because it kind of felt like I was on the effect like I knew snails so I kind of just like shoved down my throat and prayed at finished I had someone owes younger and they used to frighten this red sauce. And let's see I would never have snails again in the tiny ones right. 'cause in tongue. I don't know if my mom was lying but mom said that she would eat the sea. Slugs the fat ones. Yeah we used to put salt on those could see these old aches. I don't know maybe maybe I need to refine my palate a bit more. Or maybe it's just not methane it was very rubbery like you could sell doused it in butter but you could do not not. No amount of butter would make eating a slog any any political heels all You know my feelings with butter and margarine is yes and That will be a reference for another time But it was very interesting because I don't think we saw any sort of remorse for many other characters except for green when he had that abundance right like. I didn't think anyone really felt bad. Aside from him at least from the point of view of the film and and we also had Bihar twos only goal was to go up and and leave because he felt like he'd he was he was top. You're trying to find your trying. Oh and that's seen. That seem. When he asked the people above them he asked the person above them to carry him or like to pull him off and then he started going up on. The woman just shot on his face. You know where he failed in that he relied on the kindness of others. And it seems like this. Exactly this order system you. You can't rely on the kindness of others the early way you can change the system is by being selfless yourself You can't really do things for your own sort of game. I like the concept of Them being able to go to different levels but then it kind of brings an extra layer of sadism because I think it's also to further break people because they know what they can have and they just completely because you never really teetering between the middle. Tees Electra. Ghazi said like the people above would commit suicide because they can't handle not knowing fighting on what leaving for this crop just having everything in abundance this morning and people huddled and you had people in the upper levels just jumping off. So it's a really. Yeah it really talks on the mental state of humans in general and the fragility of the mind and you need some sort of balance right. Then you become numb to it. You become numb to it. Everything you don't need to worry about anything and the food comes easy then you spend all the time just thinking about what exactly and people. A lot of people. Don't do well being left. You just their thoughts. Oh I mean alone I would I would love to. I would love to meet someone that is alone within their own thoughts and they completely find like I would love to watch a documentary or something on that but something that I thought was quite interesting As well in regards to this movie was you know you can be on once in one and then you could shoot up to six and not necessarily in Goering's case but you could see it through other characters. How quickly people forgot what it was to struggle. They feel like it's that time now. But how interesting is that? Because in life in a capital sort of World THAT WE EXIST IN. You know you can be great. You can be flying high one day and then you can lose everything right. Yeah and I could also sort of droid a drawl to the politicians especially in Kenya and Africa General Web. You get struggling people who really who really talked a good game and you can see actually fucking care. But they've been through solve blahdy march and there's been through so much struggle the once again election on the get up there. They're like now made. I know it's awful me now. It's awful me. I've done my struggling bit now. It's my time it's my on my family solo mentality. Let's it's human nature. Yeah like if you can't save everyone you say yourself and your family and the people you camp up and that's not necessarily a bad thing as well you know when whenever you have like world relief's and stuff you know people get angry. Celebrities onto a mole. But it's like you can do something as well. We don't have the resources to do more like I get. I get the sort of mentality where I think. A lot of billionaires in the world could do more by Don but if that's not your business it's not like yeah they. Yeah they should do more. But it doesn't mean you can do nothing. Why why are we looking at the high platforms to do something? I guess that's the sort of because you don't want to come off as communist because everyone would pretty much just not listen to you but then there's a fine line. There's a fine line to where you could say you actually trying to help people where it will benefit only yourself but other people as well so when you up there when you're up there and you know what you've been through and you know how hard it is because it only last month. It's not like you're staying up on level six level one forever but then say it's just it's a it's a continual cycle that you have to go through and that would fucking break anyone. Psychologically Bez it's all they can store food in the camps or something you can eat it and that you still back to the lower levels and you're hungry again you do like oh. We should have done something better. Change the system. I guess so. But you know life is fucking hard man like you can't really expect other people to do shit you kind of go in. And get it on yourself for enough doolittle. And I guess that's where we get to see goring and barred sort of forming a good partnership in the belief knowing that they'll do their best wants it for them to go up to go all the way down into the Crevasse which is a thirty rock episode. You look you'll most welcome or even Davis Franken is one twenty seven hours that was brutal brutal have. Oh you've watched today with some flour shirt or whatever the fuck but I guess that's an interesting thing because you know you can point your finger like someone should be doing something. But if you're not gonNA do anything shut the fuck up really you know you and I beat myself up because armlock this because I got disillusioned at. It's my fallen. I could definitely do a lot more. But it's just the conditioning of how everything is and it just bothers you every single time. It digs stronger people to do that. It was an interesting concept And again this is. This is definitely just me but I wanted to know how it got determined where people would. It didn't seem like a nosedive black. Mira where according to your. That's where you would lend seem completely random. I think it was just a inflict the most serious sort of pain. Yeah really agree with that but it was interesting. I it really caught my attention All the way throughout sometimes watching stuff. Obviously when we're at home we like to check how much longer we didn't really do that with this movie. Which is a good thing. It's a good thing one of the things that got me as well as the administration's our window performing for preparing the meal And the soul much detail so much attention to detail to get everything right from the fast level people. Just walk all over like Oh yes. The zero appreciation just succession. Well Yeah it really does get the mind thinking and he cutoffs want to self reflect and say if you're in that usually try and be different. I think after awhile complacency sets in or even in a short amount of time complacency sits in it happens to the best of us are true like me and my goods are. It's fine right but I also think that's a negative thing like in some cases life is fucking hard enough just to get you and your loved ones. Ter- so why the why. Why the fuck do I care about a politician? You know what I mean so in that sort of sense I'd get it right. We watching dirty money and then we'll tweeting about the Malaysian prime minister. Right interviewing just like a fisherman we'll some fishermen and they didn't even care about corruption or whatever they just. They got money from the whenever he came to visit. You know what I mean like there me. What does he do for me? Getting mighty monthly. Fuck you in the corruption. You claim But you know what I mean like. Sometimes it's not a bad thing that people are focusing on themselves. Sometimes it's all they have to get by. That's more what I meant. It's not just I'm greedy and I'm going to take everything right and there's so many layers to this film and that's why I was really really enjoying it. But that ending dude. Let's talk about it. So Goering manages to go all the way down with a child. Yes even before that. We've jumped a chunk where taking with him and Barrow. Taking a what was the desert. The Pentagon the paddock auto down and that would be the message. Only because of the wise the wise exurbia the was. You didn't fuck and try and do anything himself. He just wrote in his little wheelchair. And he's like I'm GonNa tell you something you have block savior and once. They found the child who apparently wasn't supposed to be there in the first place because he had always trying to get down and the fact that she never found the child meant that she never really got to the bottom floor again when you try when you try to advance yourself in this case it was to try and find a child but was when you try to advance yourself. You'll relying on the kindness of others And you constantly saw maybe women but definitely through the film men taking advantage of her so get. That's probably why should never made it all the way down through which was at the mercy of whoever's platform she was on and she had to find a way to the nail to get free. Shaquille she AIDS. And that's how she survived up. She didn't wear all main Guy Goering so her being choked and stabbed to just doing nothing in shock cousins to be the way those are solid ten seconds of taking action and also immigration the lady with the dog. She was under the impression that Mahara was an actress. Do you think that was fed to her by the company to keep that secret because you allowed to bring one thing and the thing she brought for some ridiculous reason. Well it's interesting right because if you knew a child was there and the child was the message then you lose the message message. Kindness message is selflessness. The message is you know Taking care of that generation right Let's talk about Mars character. It's very very very interesting. The way she was introduced to us is literally at the start of the film Wherewithal to believe that. She's looking for our son Interesting interesting interesting because a very different Play so you would probably want to choose. Ot if you're navigating the video game of the platform he would not want to choose Katie. Because I was literally true Ghazi and I was like let's kill her and I would be the one that would be dead on one seven one you would be because I was shocked that she helped growing. And then you're like of course. Kindness goes a long way it does. And that's the message that we saw them trying to push through on this. She was this scared and on the Mossy of two blocks who could have taken advantage of ought to make a fight for life and the fact that she was so caring and approached a human and not some animal. Not Some rancid thing that you just you know. It would definitely stand out from the day to day. And we saw it come to fruition. When it was the roles reversed where he was vulnerable one and she came to his rescue announced him back to health. May I was in full survival word? I was thinking about kindness. And that's what I was saying like. Sometimes it just takes. It's good to take a step back and and be do that extra sort of act of kindness but there's also nothing wrong with survival there so it's not it's all wrong but then again we are all trying to survive dog. What's what's for advocates. That's where survive but it's true you're not in isolation the next is pretty much the same situation as you are trying to figure out so they should together. Is Bob official than going it alone and only only being self serving? Well not really. The solution was that Bharat and grain. Actually just four people off and threatened them. It wasn't communism because of the head and shoving bars in the back of your head. That's what it was true. So they picked up all the way down I did. I did like the notion of that because there were trying to feed everyone and then you have professor Xavier News wheelchair saying if you want to really show that we're together and you know we've achieved something key one the most prized sort of foods. I thought that was a nice little layer. You want good because that transcends the one day of kindness where people can eat right then we take it to another level where they show an act of kindness to the child and the child gets the Pentagon even then I was like. Give it to that fucking kid. You need that. You need the message. Maybe the child became the message because the child eight the message. No she was always the message because no one made it all the way down there to see the message. That's the message. Even when growing was on calculating he was saying maybe two fifty and that would be a stretch. But that's wrong. Because that's what I'm saying I'm saying it was even more than he could even conceive because doesn't stop on flaws where there's no human life so it'll just by miscalculate because you don't know you'd think that it stopped there. Ba didn't so three hundred thirty thirty three well over three hundred platforms. Yeah Yeah and then we have the old man grading during and they walk off because the message doesn't need a messenger or handle you can't handle other message. What is a good fo you are? And then the kid gets shot up to heaven. And that's the end. The fuck was that I guess I saw how annoyed you're I was frustrated or not because I wanted more of a closure because that state. I'm thinking okay. So what does this mean in? The goring has has accepted that he is live is not wath outside of this sort of platform scenario. Has He given up positive completely? Seen that whoever he is coming in cannot really fully assimilate in the wall in left knowing what he's done so this a semblance of giving up its acceptance rather Does acceptance that. He's different possum than for white came in does that acceptance that. He's his mental state and health is in exactly what is because he I think. He thinks he's going crazy and he fights with himself to try and retain some semblance of sanity which we can see is quickly quickly fleeing him so the fucker he decided to stay at the bottom of the DOC. Whatever what they'll photo never get to him. Not even people maybe the people that throw themselves platform his pretty much given up on survival taking giving up on survival he wants to die that and just say trans. Save everyone else using the message and if you want to die why would you want to save people and then again? Why would you assume she's a message? Maybe she's just a kid though. Is this doctor probably was because it seemed like they wanNA give a shit? They didn't seem right. They will monitoring anything and a question. I have is west side from food being left on the platform right but the question that I have is. You've got three hundred thirty three levels with two people on each level you know what that equals not six six six. But that wasn't the point. The the point was they had to roof everyone and move them in enough time that they would still not be conscious. How the fuck did that happen or was it more of a budget thing. They didn't want to be able to coordinate that because I find it hard to believe that they were able to move people to like completely different levels. It didn't seem like there were doors inside of it was just that one hole in the middle right so like logistically. How did they move? Everyone not only supposed to suspend that at the door. Nadia how the move them I think left to immagination. Maybe they'll aliens maybe jet packs. 'cause I would've I would've shoved sheets and pillowcases in all of my holes you're gassing me today son Actually no one tried to steal week to see like no one. Even why didn't even try that before he did? All of his noble sort of socialist just pretended to sleep yeah. Classic Westworld always attended Newton. Y- pull a new tone on there. Just pretend your frozen. See what they're doing. Spoiler is no. It's the foster episode. It's a Tandy in the benefit attended glitch in the Matrix. So yes he kind of is A year again. That's probably I. It's a tiny sort of qualm that I have but logistically it would have been a lot to have to move all of those people. They would have been a lot and then you could see the buses that are doing this because if keeping food on a platform is move is is valued higher than killing people which seems like they don't even give a shit. Then this is Laura Administration who would think that sending a message. All the way up with a child is would mention to them. I don't ever want this taken out of context. Just remember this is not going to be a sound bite. If I was in L. Hoyle I would jump down to all of the platforms and stab. Everyone on my way down. There'll be so many people that they'll need to like Scott over and replace. I will have time to wake up. One they gas me stop them. And you know what I'd actually don't get the platform goes all the way down if everyone is alive right so it. Kinda worked for my plan if the platform goes all the way down. Why don't you just wait because apparently once you get to the end of the platform out? I'm assuming there's like some door to the left hand side of the room and just walk out and go into the real world. I don't think there's there's a door at the end. So what do you think happens to Goering? He does the the toys level zero. That's where everything comes in from. And that's what I told you what surrendering accepting feet and felt some sort of indication that the message will reach the top on the right thing is that. Oh my God compared to some sort of premature ejaculation. Because up until the point of Donna's well done a good job explaining everything and doing all of a sudden Bam. It's finished knowing well. Take that as a sacrificial thing I guess is given it all up on some random him finding its way somewhere leaving no faith knowing all the message does not need to bear that now fuck that outstanding. Kicking kid off. No wonder you so annoyed with it dog. Well that's pretty much it. I didn't really have any also say about this to be honest he was. It's definitely a move with all make you think a lot. And while I think you'll put things in perspective whereas especially when we can also many barrels day today it will definitely make you think twice the next time you want to be mean to someone looking to me. I think the reason why I was so annoyed with the ending was it had shared very early in the film. How capable of delivering a heavy yet balanced message. Even if you don't agree with it you know it was really on. Its Way to delivering something that was meaningful that was shown act and then it just ended to think that he had sacrificed himself for the kid or the message for the article. I don't know I don't know how that's it. Kinda cheapens the whole movie to be honest. Yeah I don't know like I just because everything he did wasn't a long lasting sort of change. It might have changed that day but it doesn't change months from now on so it's a leap of faith is just hoping that that mission will do the right thing and hoping that is an actual message in the end of it. D- Lord it's ridiculous. That's a lot of hope. It's a little hope maybe too much. Hope Wow two men who have not eaten for days thinking that there's a message I kind of like delusions and stuff biggie. The best thing about the must be there must be a popular. It's one thing to eat human flesh spotlight. It didn't even seem to cook it. Won't you sick? Let's just eating meat. That's roaring generaux. Yeah I don't know about that. Well you said you had to do anything to survive so I guess people had to win. At least it was like popsicles in alive. I think this is the most we've ever talked about cannibalism. I think all right well chewed it week. We have a whole series. Well there any other standouts or any other messages you wanted to mention about Not really it was very inshallah was very insular and like you mentioned. We've seen movies have executed. This sort of concept better With a more gratifying ending because ending alone. Just really pissed me off. Because of what is symbolized yet. And maybe that's just a self breath presume preferential thing but what. I consider to more to that then. Do you think the chef that was kind of overseeing everything kind of looked like Wolfgang Puck? I had to just to make sure and do look alike. Apparently it's not here. Wonder why conspiracy keep your tin foil. Hats on friends and lovers But yeah like the fact that like you mentioned before the fact that they put so much care into these meals without any sort of god of whether it will fade everyone. It's like I'm going to make the perfect dish like you said people are just going to step all over that. Shit. Yeah and I'm GonNa do it again. Tamar interesting I wonder if the chefs end up having to get pushed down there as well properly. 'cause they let you literally have like nothing to do like you're just waiting around for that food. And whatever activists talk just quickly it was interesting to see in quicksilver montages what people chose as their position So growing had his book the old man had his very shop Ninja somewhat. I plus sorry submarine Plus Not Tom Cruise included and then we also saw the dog more sausage than dog. Sort of context We saw surfboard. Who would bring a soft board? Yeah because you. You know that you're going into a cell at least that much established you all going into a confined space. You're not going to be able to serve dude idiot We also violin and very interesting one was money. Yeah it was. The most useless thing on there is a softball you. I don't know try and hit some use it as a weapon. Try and eat at if you get hungry unless you're a shock I don't know how much do you desperate? Oh it does me. Just well then she wa is just completely useless in bharata rope which is part of a good idea but then again you pretty much relying on the goodness people. Yeah no representing. Like spank people with. He will be like the wonder woman of truth yet. but yeah the money one was really interesting you could probably try and bry people when they first get there but once they realized they'd never fucking getting out like money literally is a social construct. It means nothing in that context. Yup and he's trying to throw money at people but I think those are the most interesting aside from horror bringing in a child that was really interesting and I think they caught him noted too early in the film when they said you can bring anything so they kind of left out. Opportunity Open Right. Well there you go Thanks for joining us. Friends and lovers for another episode in the foyer. Reference because I guess just like Derbyshire People Debbie Dick's don't be Wolfgang's unless you're actually wolf game because you're probably happy with Oleo money but well. I think I will look back fondly on this film if I disregard the last ten minute me to large place. It brought to a table a quite a unique idea. That was interesting. Yeah the execution over was sort of Nice up until the end. Yeah so yeah. Lot overall a good job. That's not GonNa Throw Paredo anything good. Not You my chemical romance parade not not to the level. Unfortunately I was not by Katie. Take me into the city to see A Mariachi band. I WANNA herb if anyone is in L. Hoyle situation if you see Al podcast on the food table that you will eat it and you weren't stemple over But that's just a little baby Kt Her to have but thank thank thank you we take county. Okon around her We are going to end segment. We call for your friends. It ooh I'm GONNA Reference Exam. How Di you literally started off this episode. Referencing that you motherfucker brought to Your Life. Intego please. You can't take Gemma anyway at JETSUITEX. I'm gonNA reference the Nineteen ninety-seven Cube. 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Drunken Confessions  Episode 54

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Drunken Confessions Episode 54

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT. visit www dot past troy dot com before information. Welcome to another episode of Chunky, confession, a show for the bold and the brave. The drunk seemed. Tell stories. Your best friends already know you me now. Your family to ever hear, but always makes for great conversations. Raise the blast or more. We don't judge every week for drunk. Confession Babble babble, babble babble. L.! Competitive so fifty or Yup. I am your spirit. I on your host, amy. Did just gave the guy with the bar. They can't get rid of. Dame. That's sums it up now. Unfortunately, saying Stephanie and Jeremy Tonight yes heels can empty in. I guess just saying the the weather gets nicer outside and suddenly people can't make. Just noticing a correlation there. Could be. It could be husband tried gopher motorcycle rides today and I had to go rescue them. Because broke down, so he is not a happy camper. Yeah, but he figured it out some I. Don't know. He talked mechanic when he talks mechanic I'm like a year Charlie Brown while long. The battery to the alternator is blown. That's what I. Okay. I guess that sounds bad. That sounds like it shouldn't be a blend. Usually blowing his good, but in that context it sounds back so. How is everyone's weeks so far shitty? TASTIC SHITTY! Shitty Bang Bang. I will suck at that. Dave. You're not alone AG I. Swear. It's a freaking bowman this week it is. Going wrong? That's a Friday though. while. It's lingering all week. Just like twenty twenty years lingering for like five years, it feels like. I feel like I. Feel like April was like eight weeks. And then Maye was like three months, and this first week of June has been like a year already like it's just it's. It's crazy, it's. Another it's just. Really made Hayes this year Bowie. But wait, there's more I know now. How much would you pay? Though I just need somebody to get Bingo on their apocalypse Bingo card, so we can get this game over with. Right. Stop it just stop. Bingo, because now you got, you got earthquakes going on underneath the yellowstone national. Park, where there's a super volcano. meteoroid you've got a handful of asteroids that are do by the earth over the next three days. Yeah, wasn't that predictive? Yellowstone's Keno is GonNa erupting twenty twenty. It's it's like apparently like hundreds of years overdue like it's like it's due for A. Walk! It'll of course I'm convinced. The Mayan. That invented. The calendar was dyslexic, and he meant twenty, twenty, one, not two thousand twelve but yeah, we'll see. Yeah. I drink, too. Good friends to shitty weeks. Yeah, podcast night, and you're with drunk and confession so trump day. At, least circuit circuit, get an hour of relief and laughter and fun. Or forty five minutes. Or forty five minutes of US bitching, not knowing what we're doing. It's happened more than once. Look a little yeah. We are. We shall see. So. Agenda Tonight. Do we have an agenda? We have a small. Anyone back to work. So. I didn't have time to actually type out an outline and all that because. Unlike you. I have been at home for two and a half months, not doing anything and getting back into a work routine is I thought it was going to be so by next week I'll have my ship. Act Together and. Say. That's a great theory. That's that's an amazing theory. Catastrophe happens next week and then I'm out right. Remember. Remember. Doesn't it seem like? Tiger kingship was like three years ago. It really died. Yeah, that was that was the end of March beginning April that was. Funny. Wow, what's really funny that you brought that up? Is that is what's on the agenda? We wanted to talk the first thing we were going to talk. About is the best and worst. Things that you've been sh- watch during the Kobe Ed. And everything else. Yeah, it was so funny, because tiger, King was mine, and you just brought it up. It's you have some kind of weird psychic thing going on with A. Psychic psychotic tomato tomato. and is sometimes I was wondering if you like Easter, immunize conversations. Did you play in a Buggy my house somewhere? Here I went to the Jeffrey Epstein. School of House designed so there are cameras everywhere. That's that's yeah, every time we. Up. Unknowingly. It's a true story. Now Clinker! But I would agree with you. Kings were way way up there on the list. I think most of America. Nine Kennedy both a little. Little column. Be I mean it was. It was almost like a train wreck that I couldn't stop watching and even even. Even knowing that I shouldn't have contributed to watching it, but it's like. A train wreck that you've thought direct was about finished and then another curve team. and. The train rolled again. Yeah, and then they did like the the foul up. There was the reunion episode. Yeah, that was entertaining the memes ever. Honestly like that's the thing I mean for if nothing like that hit like right after the lockdown started like right right about two or three weeks into it, and so literally, the timing could not have been any better America was Boorda Shit Right? We needed something to do so having a set of seven episodes drop like that was just brilliant on that. Even if it was accidental, it was brilliant on Netflix's part. Like that's what made the show more than anything else was laptop Tahoe. Yeah, and but God the memes that came out of that, and there are literally thousands of them are just gold like they're. They're just things of beauty. There they definitely are so we'll, but so do you have like outside of Tiger King? Do you have like a passing worse set? You've been watched. Honestly the one the one I just did with is filthy rich the the the documentary about Jeffrey. Epstein. That is. It's the best because you're like Holy Shit, there's a lot of information here, and also, because it gives some of his victims of voice, which they've been denied up until now it is the worst because you literally feel like you need to just boil your skin off after you're done watching it. It is just. It is creepy as all hell what that guy got away with for so long. Well and by so long. Watching I haven't We got about forty minutes into it, but then I noticed what time it was and I had to turn it off so I could go to bed. That we we will continue to watch it if I. got. Yeah I mean it's. It's just crazy, and it's you know and and you know my my job at the beginning. I mean one of the things they show. You is like literally in in his townhouse and townhouses, hilarious as a description, because it's a forty million dollar house in Manhattan that he had literally every square inch of that thing was covered by video, and that includes you know bedrooms, bathrooms, showers, hallways, everything, and so it just makes you wonder. Who did that? Have on videotape doing what? Does and that's why he got away with it for so long. And, probably also why he ultimately wound up. Killing himself. So my best and worst, is the sopranos, because I absolutely loved it. It's very first time I. Yeah, never seen it before. Yeah I've never seen it and it's kind of funny because they also I. Don't know if you know this. They just came out with a brand new podcast. That's called Sopranos really listening to that today on an addicted. So. It's the guy that played Christopher and. The guy that played all his name just went right out of my head. The driver for Uncle Junior. bobby buckle. Yeah. So they're the host. Of The podcast, and they are going to great down every single episode, so episode episode of the podcast is all about episode one interesting. Yes, so I'm already hooked, so it's also the worst because I was very confused about the ending. As was most of America that were watching it live at the time, yeah! Listening to the PODCAST, maybe they'll explain it. Well, no, I mean it's. It's been discussed to death I mean the director has talked over and over again that that's exactly the ending. He wanted and I mean it's not a spoiler, because it's been off the air for shed a decade now. I think if not longer but to the episode it's in the middle of the song. Don't stop, believe in, and then just like in the middle of nothing. This green just boom go just cuts to black. And so it was always okay well, did Tony Get shot? You know 'cause like that ending scene where there's a lot of characters in the diner that kind of look like some of the other characters, like like his buddy that on the sporting goods store. There's a character in there that Kinda looks like him. You know there's the guy with the nose sitting at the bar. That kind of looks. Looks like a typical hitman. There's you know all that kind of stuff. and he's always said he's like no, he's like I'm not gonNA. Tell you one way or the other what it's supposed to be because it's supposed to be open in the imagination like that was just where I wanted to end it, and how I wanted to end it. Yeah, and like and everybody I. Everybody hated it. Are a fan of Sopranos if you're just being introduced to. Definitely check out that podcast because I will be listening. Holler at me, 'cause I have. and honestly, that's one of those shows where you know everybody. That talks about you know the best dramas in TV history. I will put that up against almost damn near anything. I mean that's usually my number. One choice I mean for A. Just from a story ARC character development writing I mean you name perspective about judging a TV show. They had it on an an and they had a lot of it. Well, maybe I'll have to watch it. Yeah, I'm I'm probably GonNa Watch it again after listening to the podcast real quick one thing that they brought up today on the very first episode of the podcast. Is that Adriana? They actually show her as a hostess in a restaurant, and then all of a sudden she's. Yeah! Christopher's. Fiance or girlfriend yeah. And I've never noticed I. Did notice that so I'm like? Oh See. There's things out there that I should watch again. Not right away, but I'll watch it again and See what else I pick up that I messed. There were things in See I think it was season five because I went through and watched it again to, and there were things in season five. That and it's not like media. Forget stuff so I. Don't know if Helen might've been drunk when I was watching him. Anything's possible. But, but but there were things in season start. There were things in season five that I forgot it happened something like that was Kinda cool, or maybe I? Just notice him for the first time. Who knows but yeah, I mean it it is. It is hands down great series, and then I know you're on true blood now to yes, sir. That's that's. I can't watch any of that I know Kathy. I'm going to give you my HBO US. We discussed that before. I haven't done it. WHAT IS CAST? What is your best and worst watch Dave. Nice, you've been binging me. Series on. Have you heard of the the Rapper Lil Dicky? NO JEWISH RAPPER! He's hilarious. Anyway it's it's a sitcom that he does. It is called date okay. And it's all about. It's about his kind of his life. About being a Jewish kid who privileged Jewish Kinu came rapper that it's just it's really comical. There's a couple episodes that are super lame, and some that we just absolutely laughed our asses off. Also and it's one of those ones where you never know what you're. GonNa. Get when you watch it. You know it's GonNa. Be So funny! You're cracking up the whole time or your like. POKEMON was that yeah? It's on. It's called Dave, and yeah, it's it's about It's the. Down I'M GONNA. Check it out, so it's kind of. Say I felt the same way kind of about What's The show cartoon? Solar opposites which is which is done by the people. It's done by the people that do rick and Morty and it's only one season. It's like eight episodes, and basically it's Rick and Morty, but aliens and more swearing is what I figure less. We're. Just like they take it to the next level, this one wasn't though. Because they do if they even say it takes a long time to write. Rick and morty because the extent go into. With it, and I absolutely love Rick and Morty, it's it's probably my favorite cartoon. Really. I know I know I have been more. He blankets I'd gone and on the finale. The finale was just phenomenal. The season, finale. One I just watched it just yeah, just aired Sunday. Yeah the one with the clone yeah yeah. It was great I loved it, but I've never watched an episode. Take care for it. I couldn't get into that one and in the other one. We tried watching Akron really get into. Space Force. Haven't even turned that one on yet Steve Corral. I just started watching him like we watched the persona. I laughed. Maybe I did a little chuckle maybe twice. As soon as it is, it's really too bad. Stuff's not here because I, mean she. She went through it in a day and said she absolutely loved it. So. We need to watch another episode of it. My brother-in-law said it was hilarious. I am turned it on yet either but he he thought it was the best. I Love Steve Carell. So I was really surprised I didn't care for, but I'll I'll try an episode of it soon and CF I. I usually have a roller. I usually have a rule of three when it comes to shows like I will give you three episodes to pull me in, and because if you can't pull me in in three episodes, then you don't deserve team. I usually give these two to three episodes before I'll be like. Well, which is right? Honestly, that's one of the reasons why I like the way I like it when they drop an entire season at once as opposed to. Some of the stuff that they put out week by week by week. just because like new stuff comes out. I'll let the first three or four episodes. Drop before I. Go back and watch them because I only we'll wait till they do one at a time. We'll wait till they do the whole thing right now. Billions were waiting for them to the entire season before we start watching the next season of billions which I absolutely loved that Joe, Fuck. We're GONNA. Do A drug a confession. Okay then thank you amy I. Don't have a I about. Amazon purchase. I John Compassionate. You're allowed to go outside now, so you can go to the office supply store and buy a thirty nine cents cheesy. At my shops. I can that they can see us. So. I wouldn't use steel and being and get. Out of A bad idea. You Might WanNa. Walk that when back a little bit. Anyway. Now, I don't feel anyway. You're on FBI, watch you. Don't touch money I. Don't touch the money at the bank so I don't do drawer money so I'm good about that all right, so we're good all right. So what other questions tonight! Have you ever gone to a wedding in natural, but have you ever gone to the wedding where you either slept with her head relationship with either bride or the groom Yup absolutely fucking now? Amy You. Balk now. Like even if it came up, you wouldn't. Because you're pretty adamant about that. Now because actually. Story this actually happened to Jeremy and I. Before. We were married, so people came to your wedding this. Let you guys know. We were invited to his exes wedding. And by his acts, it was the exit he had before he met me. That was a very long serious relationship and his family always when I first met his family. They always compared me to her. Oh so, it was already like a little, a little bit of a sore spot. Yeah, and then she invited us to. Her wedding and I was like absolutely not. She just wants you to stand up and object Jeremy. I'm like does the only reason why? She's doing that. There's always. Alternative motive and so therefore I would never if somebody I had relations with got married now I'm not gonna go either. I did. act. My husband was the best man in the wedding. Well. Yeah, that's an slept with the groom years ago. That's how I met my husband. Actually I was dating his friend. Weird the entire time like Oh. No the only time it got a little strange was when we went out to lunch or dinner. It was me time in the groom beforehand then they were talking about the talks that they were going to order for the wedding and time made a comment about me knowing both in scenes. that. COMES AT A. Restaurant and like. Gee, thanks, honey, stay stay classes. You don't know it was. I guess it's because with with Jay and I. Never had anything more than just kind of like. A three months laying. I guess you could call it road other. There was never any really emotions in there are no connections, and as a matter of fact, it was funny because the whole time I was dating J.. He kept saying. You know you get along better with Tom, I'm like. You're reared I dating. You know. If you want to expound on your. An. The girl that I started dating when I first moved to DC and we were together for about a year, and then we broke up and then just. Not Too long before I moved out here. She got married and she invited me. and we have stayed friends I mean her husband well. The I mean the her boyfriend along new. You know that we had gone out and all that kind of crap and we kind of we would crack jokes and shit. Mencia she of course I went went out. I didn't have choice Thomas's. Maybe I just haven't been in that kind of like. I've been with Jeremy for so long. I was twenty when I met Jiri Yeah that I haven't had that okay. He's an expert. We still remained friends stage. Though maybe that's why I feel a different way right one of the only people. I've ever seen friends, but we didn't tell his wife at the time. She had no idea that Jane I ever she as. Their divorce now doesn't matter. Period. Of the hits just keep on coming. So, it's just he's. Anyway with the Dow, Pileup. He love him to death, but he's. Not. CAST material that's great law D-. so hey, the. Stay at home order lifted and bars and restaurants to open up on Monday you're rushing out to go. Now. Now! Let everybody else be the test? Dummies lead, but we're GONNA. Let the waves go. You know what I'm you know the first thing I really WanNa to do now that all these orders have been lifted I wanNA pedicure. No. I want to have a small barbecue in my backyard. And play Cornhole and play Euchre and have a fire and see people all and just hang out with. More than three people. Rarely have up to one hundred. That's the limit. Don't have one hundred people I. I know I have used Stephanie Cast. Amy. Just, wait just give me drunk on zoom. You'll have the entire ing world there. It'd be great. Because I've been told I have a tendency to wait people. Actually I'm looking forward to like inviting my family over here and then having you guys over us when we get to meet your family. And by family I mean my mom and my sisters and nieces and nephews, not the crazy people in the family. Not for the OH. I I meet. Your family knows I love them in. The funniness by. So next question I feel I honestly I. Feel like the first gathering should just be a big open field somewhere. We all get together and just like scream for ten minutes like that just to get it all out like. Bring a bottle of whisky. Ally, no I, asked my backyard all the time. Just scream you. Dog. Look into it in my backyard because we're going to be put in the house up for sale very shortly, so it doesn't matter if we piss her neighbors at this point not to mention. My neighbors were on the front line fighting. Two mornings ago at like four thirty in the morning. Yelling that stay classy says. That's awesome. So it's the second time it's happened. Again all the time Taylor People WanNA. Come like scream. CAME GAP! So next question Dave. We're going to ask you first okay. What's your best in worst purchase? You've made during all this time. The two items. Best worst place to different items. Okay best probably all the little, the little. Light, shelves for my bar. worst. All the Shit to get all these retro gaming units put together and working because it just it just keeps hurting into more work. Understandable. Now. By my best is my new laptop. That is my best purchase. My worst. Don't know worse. I've kind of tie. Self out of like everything that I've purchased on Amazon. I'm really happy I finally pulled the trigger and body. I haven't Yeah I. Don't think gave. Money away. I, haven't had any regret purchases I don't think. Now, no not. The gaming stuff just keeps creating more work for me, but I mean even. That's GonNa eventually be fun. I mean that that. Barrel Strength Bourbon I've I've regretted once or twice. It was the best of times it was. It was the worst. What about you? What's your worst? Best Laptop as well any laptop as well. So, I'd have said that's my best purchase. My worst would have been to be so I wanted a new period yoga pants. And, so I'm wondering how for Amazon because you know trying to go into the store, and I do the measurement thing you know I always go by measurements and I've had a lot of luck with them, and I don't know what the hell happened with these. Could probably give them to may seven year old granddaughter. They really fit because I like. Yes these are? So I am sitting over there because I didn't WanNA. Bother sending them back. They weren't that much money, but that was probably the worst I haven't done anything stupid in a while. Although I do wake up in the first thing I do if I've been drinking. The personality was check my Amazon. Orders. Because I had John. while I got drunk and ordered me baby. Yoda and I totally forgot about it until like two days later, it was like Oh. Yeah, I wonder. It's like all right. That's great drug purchase Yes, it is so let me see I'm Kinda prison through here and no I. Haven't done anything really bad. Thing I ordered was I ordered our drunken confession hoodies that we designed right. Though we got, we got some gear come in to US excited. Hopefully it comes out exactly how we. Designed it and the sizes are good and everything, so we can actually put the sweat start putting slag up on our website woah. That's our goal. Right I think the worst thing I ever purchased was a rowing machine off a Amazon. One time when I was drunk thought it'd be great. I would say the chocolate found, but they own was on sale got it for like twenty five bucks, so it's not a big deal I've used it once I. WanNa you. didn't mean the rowing machine like Lance Lance John Lands. Tonight. I'm going to jump I land. I don't think he ever jumped on Lance. Twice and it didn't work because it just hurt my back and I'm like I'm not GonNa do so there's. You know like I don't think I'm doing this right. You know, so I sell it. Did sell. Do they? That got a an elliptical to replace lands, and I pointed right here next to me holding. A hung out. So, it's a, it's a clothes hanger. I'm quite sure yeah. Towels take another shower. For Dry that oath around the basket. Well, that's so funny. So. We haven't named this way yet. Maybe maybe our listeners can come up with a good name because I need my car. I've named my motorcycle. And you haven't been my. Yes bicycle in my my. Elliptical. I feel like a bike should be Freddie from queen because I want to ride my bicycle. Jazzmen Lucy Freddie and then. The name for. Richard? Seven exercise. Oh, I thought you were making a Dick joke and I was going to go. Let's see makes you. What. What makes you? Be Like that, why do you? Not. Judging word educated on you. Traffic what name. Gas. What what name do I think of when I think of you and I think of something that makes you put in a lot of effort, but doesn't really go anywhere. What what? What May. Anyway. I guess. Pets, Green. So! Let's. Get compassion all right. Have Anymore, of course I, do okay, what's your? What's the rookie concession cast? What's the biggest red played? You saw in another person, but ignored a decided to take them anyway. Oh I have a good one. Oh, good dip Jeremy now. Biggest Red Flag I had. Brought to me was. Multiple girls were telling need that. My one really good male friend. Was Physically abusive. And I didn't believe that. And, then because I was friends with him, not them. And then he didn't to my very best French. And that North the Red Flags! A Lot, my best friend to hook up with him, and it didn't turn out very well. No that doesn't sound like it did yeah so. Day. So this gets into. First marriage that we haven't even really got onto a lot. I think the biggest red flag. The the biggest red flag the diagnosed was that after knowing each other online for only two weeks She lived here in Michigan. I live down in DC. And she called me from her car as she was in Ohio on her way to come meet me. The Stalker girlfriend. Guys realized she was a little crazy. Then but yet I was I was dumb. I was dumb, because she kind of looked a little like Belinda Carlisle and You know how much I love eighties was that was the thing? I have no idea that that is a lead lead singer the goes. It goes and house and you still have do that. I know I know who goes but I can't tell you what they look like. Up Sorry. What about you, CASS Oh Shit name it every single guy I've ever dated nothing but red flags. I'm always like oh I, think he some. I can fix that. Yeah, you know, he's probably got good heart. Yeah now I can't think of anything like concrete. 'cause like I said. I am not one to lake. Would occur. Oh. I was like what happened my computer. Over this great. Oh okay. Yeah. So yeah, so I would have to say every single guy I've dated is had just nothing but reds legs, but I haven't really including one married. Is You if you're wearing rose colored glasses, all flags a red. And that's been me so now. I really the more I think about it, even though I'm going, they came up with question is still was just like. Yeah this guy. This Guy Yours too many to even count, so we're just GONNA. Go with you know. Yeah, I wear, rose colored glasses and I don't know. As though. The best and worst. Habit, had steve picked up. During Kobe. I don't know that it's a habit that if picked up it, it's a habit that may have gotten amplified bit. thinking. That would be. That would be staying up late drinking with friends. Yeah, just because I mean. It's I mean there have been nights where it's gone till. Three four o'clock in the morning and just. Just sleep the next day. Saving an Uber has got to be great. Oh, exactly I don't even know what I do. My Bank account is like what the hell is going on like what I'd like dude. We're not paying over what happened. To get divorced from lift what happened? Yeah. No I mean the honestly that so yeah I mean honestly the best habit that I probably picked up. I could say his drinking more at home. Just because I never do like I. I think I've I've I literally. I can say without a doubt in my mind drank more at home in the last three months than I have in the in the ten years that and probably twenty years the last twenty years it just not. Even with all this nonsense. It was only something when people were over, and and not and not not even that all the time just because I was always on the go either with the studios or events or some you know whatever I hardly ever here to begin with. Bi Yeah I mean it's. It's definitely been a been a cost saving measure, if nothing else, and Yeah I've never had to make that. Yeah, am I good enough to drive home now never had to make that decision. I don't actually know and honestly probably the one of the better habits that I think I've picked up is is I've been trying to be better about staying in touch with people. And checking in on people because I'm I'm the first person who meant that by and large. I'm a shitty friend. Just because I have the attention span of a squirrel. That's something shiny. And and I get focused on whatever crisis is in front of me, and I forget everything else to an exclusive. I in your Defense Day is. I think every human is capable of that I know I have. Two people at certain times, because whatever is right in front of my face. Is! Way You deal with. So I think everybody had can say that. We've all been should friends. I've tried Alegre. Your? That is one of the things I've been I've been trying to work on and get better at over the course of this nonsense, and hopefully that carries forward when all this is. Awesome! My read have breaking moment about the. Concern missile good. Friend to people. There you go. You're allowed to have that you can consider. The one count quality lack the one good quality. I have is a really good front. I can't even argue that cash. You are a really good friend, so he at least to me at least to me. By any of your other friends, but you are really good. Is there for my friends. If they said anything, I would always drop everything for them. That's just how I am. So I, I consider that a good quality and I'm not being a braggart or anything like that. That's actually one of my better quality school, so so, what's your best and worst habits? That you picked up. Drinking lab and eating out a lot more. And the best thing that's happened for this is. Drinking at home. Instead drinking out and trying to find ways home, and relying on other people or lifts and stuff like that too so. Trying to so I can drive home. That what about you any? the best habit I think. I picked up is being more comfortable on video. And that was. That's a small achievement for me. Like. Now I wanted to do with my friends, and even when I look like crap. I'm like Oh, well I don't care. So. That's. The bad is staying up too late. Drinking like before. When even when I was working, yeah, I can go out with you. Guys and we could train, but I knew okay. It's this time I gotta work. But see like last night now I stayed up way past my bedtime last night. Drinking on Zoom Stephanie and I was like okay. I really have to go lay down by. The. Anyway the works on like. I don't work tomorrow so tonight. You work this morning, but I was enjoying myself like we had good conversation. Tonight too because I don't have to work in the morning. Works for me. I have to work, but we all know how I feel about that, so. With. One last confession. Where we wrap things up. All right so. What is the biggest guilty pleasure you've taken during this time the stay at home. You're guilty pleasure. Whether it's porn or not to help you or anything but. You, guys. I'll look like you're really thinking her. Because there's a couple of inches, lake, tentacle, Porn, or something like that no. No Pleasure. Not Judging. Honestly at. Drinking would go underneath that, but I need to come up with something different guilty pleasure. I'm seeing zooming. I love it. Meeting you. We've met New People. And we strengthened friendships with people we've already met. See, but when I think of when I think of guilty pleasure, though I think of something that you wouldn't necessarily tell other people about like like. No not even that but like. I, always say like my. It it really doesn't apply to me. Because I talk about it with everybody would like my guilty. Pleasure is like eighties. Bubble Gum pop like do. Tiffany Debbie Gibson. Yet Idiot I. mean like that I mean everybody knows that about me now, but for the longest time. That was something I didn't talk about. Because, there was a dude you K.. But no leaks. I God I don't even know. But yeah, but I mean I guess yeah. I like that I I. Guess Maybe just I guilty pleasure, yeah, just staying up late and drinking and having a great time, and not having to give a shit about how much drinking because the worst I have to do is stagger over to the couch. That's right there the worst case scenario and so. That is Nice I. Mean that's my answer to I. Know I already said that that was my bad habit, but that is also. You enjoy it. That's my guilty pleasure. I don't want to go back to work because I want the ability. To Sagger over to the couch whenever I need pass. Really hoping, someone would have tentacle porn on their, but. I mean sorry to. Drag remmy and here he might go by I. Don't know I mean of any of us. He probably. Really Yeah! And you can, we can drag him in there. Then ask everyone those questions. Lauren's really into Hinton animate. She's all about sailor moon. She might be A. Judgment! Word power to you all right so I'm that now we're going to wrap it up. Your You have tonight's shares saint. You Course I. She says she's never said no before. Before. We leave you tonight at the. Relieve you stay, thank you guys for tuning in. We will be back next Wednesday same time same site. For another episode of Drunken Concessions Next Week is actually Jeremy and is anniversary edition because it is aren't three year wedding anniversary next Wednesday. Sweet yeah, and then of course, if you're born on Friday cast, and I will be doing our live version of the hangover and we will. We have some announcements to make Friday. Yes, we do so stay tuned. Cast on that note, raise your glass with the cheers can. CAST raise your cans. Raise cans. Leg. Back. Years to the man who loved me terribly. May they soon improve. Wave. points. Sleeper, but hey, hey, Hey, what? It's worth I kind of made this note on on all the shows that I've been on I would be remiss if I didn't say. kind of overplayed, but hey thoughts and prayers, best thoughts everybody being affected by whether it's Kovin or all of the chaos. That's got the entire world in flames right about now. Stay safe Yeah do what you gotTa do, but. Keep your shit together and say safe. Things matter. Passions one hundred percent, says black lives matter. Here's. An Endo. s Friday. Love you bye!

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Baby Momma - the wrong opinions you have about baby mamas.

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Baby Momma - the wrong opinions you have about baby mamas.

"The mets lose love. It's the new era so imagine. I have your keith. Yeah i don't have. I mean so now i take my kids. No i'm just saying like okay. I'm just saying like right now. I'm looking so. I have keyed. I take this whole agdam people like all. He's so cute. Where's his daddy. Did he tell you. That's your business if i don't to have husband. Or what he he doesn't have daddy. I mean we feel. But i so be Release and you know. Nobody ever knows he just wanted to keep it out. Having a by so much frowned upon. And it's annoying. Some people just really wanna have kids. I'm not tied down to any month is annoying. Because he's even worse because have confidence. I don't think any after and has upset child. Do you want to get married. Do you actually wants to be married gets you. It does assume that you want to be married. Some people just want to be three from my own people marriages blend each year. Burned each generality you everybody well you just get by speak. Speak with lanny which way this is the less lewis now. Podcast i am who's Mj is is. This dreaded. Lewke costs chocolate justly beco- whereabouts. Listen you walk from all. That's mentality that has been you know you do you them. It's on you shiny walks. Please don't be bitches open up your mind for you. Need to also remarried. Say wants to be married. He just wanted to be a baby. Mom i mean must that they actually actually doing well yet. He's just want to have keys. Legion less on all would has been. Maybe my my was what i was about to ask you. You let me be mom was you did you do that you have to keep out of wedlock mars. You had to keep four connecting best much to my mind's eye sufia so she won't do that did i. Did that was do the salon. Shola remarks keeps dies on. Pre dog in three ladies are doing well. Trust me a lot of them own. Your own house is cashing out. Big time and join like yucky. Having so much fun like boats today have like they have like the joy of them going opinion. I housing bureaucracy in fi walk having a family feel this weekend. I'm leads dad next weekend. Mom and dad that likes hookah. Gimme for nine pm by two by nine brothers. But don't you think that single parents. I think it's kind of grin on. Dvd mama later a different thing for nudie mom netflix general general idea or definition. Everybody knows nigeria or baby. Mama someone that myers that maybe that eighty one wanna leave lavi deluca. You get like one travel back one naked when the shooter buddies and all that puts me. I don't think it'd be key daddy. Daddy nurse might be. That was why should be novichok now. Thirteen about parents on like because for a single parent is england. Cloudy late you know. Diverse always try to act like that moment or because they on circumstances difference even marketing limb. Married so we can't even do that. I mean gave me my my lifestyle. I m for jesus exempt modern. I i rabi minimize. She's real yes she's cool. Seem school board sometimes yeah. She does teams for clouds. Classy does was the feel good to meet a young love. Initiations young burlap. If you do you do how young are unable to most ten years or something. I kick so. That's a big problem with omar. I'm jay i'm jay. Do see i'm trying to see. Don't pay ten years old. I don't know how much does. Actually i do not read to join this year's got huda that gray hair. God what absolutely thank nato pregnant. Because you're visiting brooke asks on that journey that remind you that in our previous episode one episode. We used said that. Imagine getting enough. We skied love. What that. I'm what y'all having appointed. You'll have an opinion blatko because they do yes. That's what i'm saying to my. Is that what she's poetry into society numbers lots of these young generacion looking greets. I realized that now our morals our over and won't be feeling right business people so if this is an example villanova sufia each ev. Eli's fights buck on four. So tom in the past they just wear anybody or they had bad movement like account. Remember these like appearance. The happy food that that my grandfather. Heidi child while he was my most of us known to be for my my parents or his joining. Not after like you say you will like on the lube the finn so why is he. Why do you think he's been is baby. Mama because people don't want to get my rhythm believe that congress exceeded or nevada get appoint funds applicable by that in any really charlie's each other. They knew ray directly. Don't be that. Bobby i want you to just cue donald well for me do i just feel like You know. I think. I actually think that some people really do want to marry because it's really is your to talk for marriage. I've never been married. I don't have the child yeah. Mark people are sometimes. I'm asking no bob. You'll see like. I've been married people on lake woman wild before you by knowing goes site to maggie. Jiri looking for you know. Support your you like. You doubt what i'd never said. He person i wanna get married. Of course the man i read. Don't think again. Martin uday like wendy you gauge for you now. Well as it did for me. Exactly when i read it takes a lot from me. Let me explain. It says. I believe i knew that i gave my ribs. Lone house. shutouts nice shot. I'm sitting. I'm starting out from so my life be. My wife will be my life which is not necessarily sensibilities taken. Hold off from you as you don't want being that kind of a moved to that kind of person i am to win. I mean relationship. I shook out. I contact list friends. I call it people. I just focused on depressing depressing. When when i see wanted that what i mean so i don't know i'm not i'm not my to now. Now facts how you want to deny generally funny patches that i was christian is easily phrasing. Do we appearance or african appearance off. It's africans buren because it's not just niger in africa does have this show. That was your a certain each and he fights thinking of marriage didn't ask you. Do you also worried. Because i'm sure a lot of parents after he's do you want to be married. We'll get your responses. That maybe give them had. Because naturally that human being capac- i do is emptied parental question six. I used streets. I wanted you know it's funny because sometimes you know this african parents lucia. She you know a lot of them are not even happy. And then you're like you never wants to be in that kind of situation. You never want to be married and being this kind of miss whatever so you i i just lean so of my lifestyle you sometimes. He's funny because some of these parents are costs or causes. Why the children actually wannabe baby mamas. Because they've seen how marriage or whatever and like. Nah this sheet is gonna be. I'm looking. I'm not gonna being situation i'm able to do it. You can't blame them. They've got you have so many times that is giving up on your britches united so crazy go because sometimes you really just wanna have keyed. I not be married to anybody. If you wanna be married with somebody you might not. Yeah i get you so. I believe remove beanie much challenges. Yeah mindsets one. There's one that single. I i hate when people say single molds that easy like what the hell no. That's not true they haven't child. Are you feel like old. You'll be losing their was desperately holy that our biggest friend of mine. Yeah she went on this guy. She has three kids in care yet. The same the same guy. Any but i see i want to the inaki dies konczal. Common me give you another. Oh well the way new relationship for a long season she got pregnant she basically she kept the children and then she went on dates. She of actually. Eventually the guy takes care of the keys. She went on dates me. I mean she singles horses is like. What's this year as i could you. I says very hard but she wants me and this league. I was like you know the single on the speaking like well. Why was like money. Work this these getty and then he goes from. Would you kill you. Got questions on us. And then she never went. We don guy you give because the gardy like l. show like what did you mean by dan. Who's like you asking that you don't necessarily need to spell it out china sick. She's a whole day. You he meant what he he meant that he saw lead you sessions like turkey got three to drain snow married to debrecen thinking how street you can do. It has a. I just wanted to teach. This is a story should be on. It's like well. I mean is just what he had to issue. Sometimes you get my point on. She thought he was going to lead to marriage military relationship. No because you said something. One episode economically resign. The fox needs to know eve together. Come is not leaving. Relations practically living together has been leaving behind watch abc. I mean he just like didn't know montvale even hats. I'm for busy. You busy one stakes because the should have a sex talk ninety seven ninety five percent of women. How six toys do please. I is sick. How many da. You can gauge one. In particular have bled. I have found out by brits aggressively. Yeah that the clinton is year. I need that need any jealous. Who offer mind for these guys. I was do the hype on this one. I like to see. India's can have cute okay. I'm the kid nausea hassan looking. We like hot and you know is thirty. And did you like you. But we'll have before what you think about single moms knees s that you must have a desperate looney The company they need that figo's tange close to nuxie little place john. You need time you father. These does on you will come over. So what what. What if what if you know. The kid has his daddy time win. I his daddy kin something. That mind wants daddy again. Because sue hooded. Wd diga do christmas. Cloudy days for this for the qc craigslist to this christmas. Get i e decided not to. But if god's villier again then maybe yes yes on. That is fair. That am single. Moms you cannot get. You seem low as married couples. Or whatever and boise county. Where can't okay not not come. Baby mommas raise children that functional in society as well as people that grew up in proper family obsessed human. I see that. Yeah trump's gonna. Sometimes he shows me read you one time about guys. Yeah you should. Maybe do about some guys away from ladies. Yes so you've got by be my be my mind. Ruikun homes brooklyn moons obama's melty. No i don't think that's wrong. I promise you know what you better some cute get outta here. Boy i mean some kids that dame my snipes fuck you got went right up because you're getting me really with that. I mean why the hell would was thing back children. I raised by must look risk. I gave you my likeness for those. No that's wrong. You don't believe that men four fees how she can use lexi mo jo husky. I sometimes even more responsible back. He's our wisdom married couples. Yes a lot of children raised by michael. Like what you say you said you said you said sometimes kids vice single mom. Dad did everything to make sure that both the mother she needs to be. I've worked on north gusting. I'm not. I'm i'm lacking. What'd you do easy either. You should give up fucking hours. You impregnates new because not even. Have you been my baby daddy. How do ya spend miserable. Your conclusion in conclusion. My point is that baby mamas kind must maybe my must have equal rights reserved children and eternal responsible for rights. Become responsible if anything will give you. Colleagues ample of tajik fencing responsible any from wisdom. You buy new. There was of single baby. Mamas that i know is justified to finish ninth scenes. Used to justify you need all so now. Disney gunky know if. Somebody's trying to sell your baby mamas that you feel like you have mamas less us there. I just knew that he doesn't just east huts visit. Keating's on your kid out the window okay. Ad hoc working class woman maybe my mouth and you good to walk. Ninety five. could be that as out. That he's out countries exist in your life. You live maybe even for keeping it yourself making you guys spend mixed together. The yeah de walk nine to five. What you to combat take your clue yorkie doi- same and take him out for holiday. Just be what your kid glue on. A standard kid likes toys on my kids intelligence. I kid likes to your is a lot. Aren't it's is task it and i. It's very drilling. That's why that's why. I'm coming back to when i see dipping oslo single month easy. You'll be comfortable at point. Y'all know that women are emotional wrecks naturally youssou much nala way she get this dingy. Just rush excellent so. This is a law for one person to do so he takes a miracle. It's possible for a baby mama singlehandedly. Raise a kid and keep on out. He gravier upright uprights. Yeah they call you know what your funding because there are some families where you know that i'm all together device to be two one to stack and you have young as your tonight. You'll see some of them. Don't some of them regrets having having sex ackerman latest. Stop right now when you which we get basic idea or the okay. I slept to kim night. This stupid idea computing boiler contention here. Is that if the baby mama. Lifestyle whoops sweetheart qingguo for you to learn whether you tell you. Douglas on gently gigli. Instead i married defy my sister. Have you repeat. Take care of your child be good. Charlie's tehran mary. Those will walk will has said he doesn't see i said remarried till she ended the relationship more fun she did daily went on an update. Tout eighty look better. Keeping the forty before you from you fucking on child is what you see people that go on. Take stem donors children. Because you just want to have keys. They don't want they don't want it was so off as millennium learns ways. If you know that you can't lifestyle. I mean talked up child each other coma at moore's latest problem. Dan don't do that. She at the end of winter really responsible so i i can see. That's before mary bag. You guys what do you think them. Just see. you like millions of listen to me. Same of the lucid eve. Maybe my last hour works for you. Then please go ahead. If not why neat. I love my you want. You want somebody reminding nostrand dixies way. We begging your f- follow us on. Our social media handles at l. u. us put yen. Richard say you can't one slip you can you rate seen still dan follow me as nj. 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Drunken Confessions  Episode 49

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Drunken Confessions Episode 49

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT visit. Www DOT odd tested troy dot com before information. Welcome to another episode of Confessions A- show for the bold and the brave the drunken the season where it's safe to tell the stories you might not want your family to hear your best friends already know and always makes for a good round as never have I ever raise a glass or more. We don't judge with us every week on the PODCAST. Detroit network and welcome to you. Derby Confessions Episode Forty Nine. Who I know who I am. Your spirit guide. The show is older than you are. Now Man I am your host. Amy and I'm joined by my man. Meet Jiri Streak Dave. Dave spent take their yeah. Hi d-brewer you The enabler with the the enabler as my super villain name. Yes and we have two great guests tonight. We have the the host from tales from the parkside. Rummy who's back again for a second week in a row because he must like us or he had no objection to do doesn't go as yet his journey just for the first thank you. Yes walk around wants. Yeah so we start off with cheers stairs laker clamoring. So we re talking about Romney so we know a little bit. I implore and tell us about yourself and go. I'm a bartender. I've been bartending for like fifteen years. Obviously macos to tales from the bar side and I love to drink. Yeah can you not right so again just fire listeners that either Mrs last week reviewed a reminder? Can you guys give us a little bit more information of how I enjoy? Podcasts GO RIGHT AHEAD. Learn how to any place you find your pipe. If you're listening to a podcast it's called tails on the bar side. You should be able to telling unhappily. Were ON SPOTIFY RONALD. Sitting there on Monday nights. Eight o'clock okay. That's where we were going with this. Yeah I know I guess. Maybe we should specify up to our social media. It is it is kind of a different. It's a very different world now because I mean like for the longest time like podcast. Doing a podcast was all about. It didn't really matter when you record it because it was all about like when I got out in syndication and all that stuff with the advent of the studio closure and everyone going to this format and going to F. I mean that's still things that people are getting used to hell. I'm still getting used to it. Yeah Peach Dog. New Tricks isn't a date over so we're going to start off with an icebreaker tonight. I liked icebreaker to get. Everybody and our icebreaker is what they need. When was the last time you've had an orgasm if it was with a partner or ally yourself? Watch one of our shows. Look I'm like I have to be like an hour ago for real? Like what time is it now? I will like out there. It's Okay Ram me last time with a person. It's starting to get so long. I don't remember the exact date. It's one Oh yeah it'd be a couple of days with with somebody else. It's been too long to remember and it's starting to get sad but hopefully restrictions will get lifted student often. We'll find somebody other than that. You know take care of myself every day on his honest truth. I love it right. Same remmy what. Romney said Ditto on this morning on this morning TV last night. Jeremy I hope we were supposed to say well. I mean he might have taken care of himself this afternoon's hope. There might have been why he was off camera when she was sitting down. I now listen. You had a less time. You had an organism with more than one person. Oh Lord that's been a minute that's been an even longer minute although sad all right so well no. We're going to roll right into our first doing today. And we're doing a drinking game to get things gone. What can possibly go wrong. You guys have always you have one on hand because you go. I'M GONNA go fast with these questions. What else is new? I've heard that about you how it's go play around. It's got it's right here. I'm yes speed round for tricky game and play drink. I'M GONNA start reading questions if the answer is yes at any time. You're going to drink all in. This is this is how. I'm bombed by seven. Fifteen great great. That's what title I give this the first time on show Jenkins Is the Rona. Oh God you born the same clothes more than two days in a row apple lutely. What like ever in my life eight now very important actually aggregated score keeping score. So you could drink if you look through. You need to drink to that. Paul Cheer you lose the first thing for me or you guys got with a drink if you lost your job due to Kroto. Want them drink. If you're not you're okay with it. You wish you lost your job. That's the last couple of days. Yeah you're funny. Everybody thinks they're funny. Funny you think I'm funny more funny. If you've broken the stay at home mandate like what's his name remains just after you've gone out to go get grass eater. You went boating when you weren't supposed to or you've been around but I'm sorry does going to my mom's to help her with something. How you kinda actually help elderly. Every other day I met my mom's helping. Well then I take drink. Pack Okay Gut permit. I drink if you've gone to the capital to protest drake if you hate protests but you really don't have a good way to show you hate him and when takes a minute. I'm going with the with the PC you we're not gonNA protest. We'RE NOT GONNA protest drinking. You referred to our governor as that woman Michigan. I mean Jay giving you done it while making fun of trump would you okay nesters every state go according to my label here. It's not but dream drunk at least one time this week. Only once every Monday eight PM drink again. If you don't really know because all you are blending together Nashville. I WanNa have a great time. Drink zoomed at least twice. Today are twice this week. Sorry twice this week trying to get consumed at least twice today. The last night count because it was past midnight three times again. I'm doing this because the day. We had a crack another beer. I know right next to your deal if you if you watch porn in my life. I'm not keeping score. You've made a porn. Does anybody else have seen it again. This this podcast will be the death of Jimmy. United's marriage eventually land here. It's nothing that you can search for right. I mean you know all the words to bust a move casts. We tested this way. I might I'm going to take place in your again like winging drink again if you google the lyrics and you still do all of them. An Google cleric the words until like other with. Amy And. Amy Did say baby. We're having fun before we started this. Show you all the words. I had a lot of words on. This is baby and that is our drink. If game tonight thank you for joining show. Never everything's gotta get so now. We're going into our first confession. Did we just do like twelve of those now? There was a drinking game. That wasn't enjoying the confession. Jeremy Am I being? I should refill what we should stock issues off. Change about your life. If you could talk to five on the advice of counsel I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it might incriminate me. Spring is would be. I was one of those people that love to work out. You wish you were a little bit taller. You wish you era baller. I wish I'm out working out and losing weight and Sagan shape and all. That stuff wasn't working hard each college molly. On that note I would have dropped out of high school definitely. That was a waste of time. My last two years of high school. I completely wasting my time. I could drop out got my Gd and gone to college. Which is what I ended up doing afterwards but I could have saved some time after all at the end. I finished up my last year. I finished by November. Maybe now's I decided to the graduate. Sure I think Either I would have gone to college sooner. Wait till the I'm GonNa go into House Atallah. Gee I think I would have done it sooner or if I would have kept doing dance out like past eighteen. Those are things I would do very answer. Everything since passed the age of fife. Everything wasn't joe might lead one big. Don't do what I did sometimes example for others. What exactly. Sometimes your purpose in life is just to be the example for others. That's that's okay and that's me worked out great because all three of your kids are very successful and on their own and so it's working for you girl. Yeah Yeah. I talked to him something to do. I'm surprised screw more people more on like. Hey I'll take what I got. I want to know what kind of life changing decision you made at five. That like forever turned out so horrible. Like story wants to get into honestly like the way I look at it. There's there's no major decision that I would have made my life that I would go back and change because well every decision that I've made in my life is Kinda brought me to where I am and by in large. I'm pretty cool with where I am. Now I mean yeah there's some things I would tweak now but I mean it is what it is. I change all the time. I'm constantly trying to figure out on the other I'm trying to. I'm always looking for my next great adventure you can ask Amy. I'm horrible about that. I'm like what are we going to get into today? Even says every time all today is seen as we do everyday pinky take over the world maybe responds every time accurate on that. Now we actually have a great thing plans to talk about. We actually do plan shit with me. So our tonight's topic is What three female three famous people who you want to hang out with? Why One alive one fictional when Dad Wanna live one snow and why so do you guys want Lawrence that she did not want time to think about it area? You're okay so amiable first so the life person I want to hang out with should be failing because I think he's absolutely hilarious and I think that would be a lot of fun and very entertaining. The dead person I would love to hang out with is John F. Kennedy because I have so many questions including I'm really need to know things about Marilyn Monroe and my fictional character as Stuey griff had a good time with me and still borrow money from it and when you're with them up here you can get shot but you'd never die. You always come back. So that's a plus. Since Jeremy Do you know yours all of them? I always love to go back. Pick BY LEONARDO DAVINCI's mind. Maybe tease him. On some of his sketches. Ain't GonNa work but almost word on for a fictional character always thought tyrian. Lancaster from game of thrones would be awesome the hang out with. Yes I really thought I I and yet I don't know I know what you party with me. The rest are just peeling compared to you. You took care right out of my mouth. I was like he's married to me. Who else does he needs to need. Dave God I would you. Let's see alive. You know what I'm going to go with. It's kind of a platitude but I think it'd interesting Barack Obama just like sit down and have a bunch of drinks with him but it would have to be at whiskey in the jar or someplace like that they would have to be like like a dive bar a dive bar night with Barack would it. Would I think just exactly and and picking his okay like. Let's what did they really. Here's another shot of Jerzy. Tell me about area fifty one. Here's here's another shot dead I mean you could get metaphysical about it and go. Jesus Which could also qualifies fictional You could also or debt honestly I would dead pick pick one of the founding fathers. Pick one of them again. Sit THEM DOWN. Get them drunk and be like all right. Let's let's talk about the Second Amendment thing and and and what what are you really mean by it? And let's talk about this First Amendment thing and what like what what what what really is in your brain. When when you when you put the stuff out fictional God there are so I mean there are so many I mean I. I mean from Scifi universe. Hell God at a star. Wars character could be vader. Could be you want to know who I would have thought you would have made this Lucy. Your Tattoo do a deer. The headlights like you. Don't do it. I didn't I didn't know if you meant Lucille Ball. I didn't know where you're going with. Oh yeah but but I mean too much about your late day by this moment but yeah I mean it would be nice to have somebody around. Who is more of an enabler than I am? But I get that when I hang out with so I mean are you. Tell me what is your answer all right so. I just I went like a phone route. I mean there's a million different ways you can take. This could sit down and have you know. Have Tea with all kinds of people But for alive? I always thought a celebrity that I would love to meet. Hang out with with crispin. Glover like do is weird. He's an interesting story up and be fun to just like I would love to just talk to Him. Hang out with him for a while and see what he's all about Dad I think it like we would have met in real. Life are probably GonNa save you from going down the road. She wept amy. Wine House will be a good choice. Like I'd love to hang out with anyway. Exactly actional for fictional agaist the same things dave. There's there's so many millions of them to pick so I'M GONNA go with like very obvious. Fund choice. Captain Jack Sparrow on all right all right Lauren. Okay so for dead inside like Jim. Henson for some reason. I don't know I think you would be cool to talk to L. A. V. Awesome pecan springs and. I really liked all the stuff you made. So alive is h Jon Benjamin because I think Lyria and I love his boys like I can seriously talk or ever and then her fictional. I had to choose your family. And that's the Bob's Burgers the bellchambers. Oh love probably so much fun at the whole family to choose one. I do Linda Aged Benjamin is i. Would you know if the character itself? Linda? What was that answer. You get to hang out the whole cast part of the show. Speaking of our next. Her answer is but Jerry and I. We don't have kids however we always figured if we had a kid it would turn out to be a regard. What's her name? The youngest one Louise Louise that would and we would have a mini. Louise just cause chaos and got into a bunch of Shit. It was just funny. 'cause we've always said that like one of my favorite shows watching keep trying. That's one of those shows that I keep trying to get into but I can't get past that. He's the voice of Archer screws me up every time you know that you also the voice coach mcgurk and the double from Lucy daughter of the double and all that stuff if you've heard of him so many things Arby's commercial he's actually been in an Arby's Commercial. He was actually in one. I know yeah but you know what it's funny as I was a big fan of Bob's burgers wave before I was introduced to archer. We brokered Syrian larger. Yeah so when I started watching archer out with the guys. So yeah you had the reverse issue fact all right cats who is your three famous people cast on his hell because I was going to pick archer. Actually it was a tie between her and rick from Rick. And morty because either one you know it's going to end up in a fun adventure just to have access to the poor guy. Yup Oh yeah. So that was my. That was my fictional. My Dad would be Chris. Farley Kris Burley phasing I love and then live would be on. Musk right I would love to sit down with him and just pick his brain about everything with like Tesla and all that but I just think he looks like he lives so down to Earth like read his book. I I you know. I watched a lot of shows that he's been on things like that. So yeah you must pick pocket after he goes right. He's actually. We have one of his car in her driveway. To that always helps to Tesla so a way. The beam drops sheets that even more. You build this car come best new another drunken confession. Nicely my yes you go. You're ready. I'm ready on ready ready. If you ever felt the need to apologize after having sex in white no no go. Trials should have something ever happened. Yes because I missed a safe word. Oh wow the safe. Word was there with apostrophe and she kept saying he. I just Cracks me up now. I've I've definitely had to apologize after after sex like so. Sorry you're GonNa Fall in love now and I'm just GonNa be like I'm so sorry you're I cried through the whole thing so sorry I know. Yeah Yeah I actually did. I think actually did apologize after because I was the guy who I learn. How do I put this? He was not willing doubt at all. And an apology is yeah. I'm working for did you point and laugh at would know at what he says. You've never been with a man with smoking. Have you just don't know what to do about okay then yeah? I've apologized before but not for anything that I felt like I did that. I should be apologizing to someone just bad. It's just like if you're saying like I'm sorry because it's like I'm sorry that you feel that way or I'm sorry that it's not working out on my mind or whatever the fuck. It is not really apologizing. You're saying like more. Sorry for you. Not Sorry no and like just you know you're allowed to decide that you don't want to after looking at it. Why try try even insisting work allowed to? I love that you're allowed to say. No what are you going to do with that? Who's going to get anything out of this? What are you doing? I mean never really really is the result of the bed tender the fact that you would have slept with him is like he should be thanking you for that that you would have slept with him at all and then you saw. Have you changed your mind? And then he should be saying. Thanks for considering. Sorry he was he dealt toolkit very well and I think this because he obviously he knew he'd run now man. Yeah it's not the first time he's been like I'll go back to my car now. Well Sarah now. So what is the first thing that you guys? WanNa do after the quarantine has let up and have you guys because the Michigan is starting to reopen a little bat. Have you done anything that you haven't been able to do recently like have you first thing? I'm GonNa be done any gatherings now. The first thing I'm GonNa do is hug all my friends that again. All of my friends that I haven't seen so long I'd just like I haven't been able to hug anybody in two months. Socks like hug deprive. I've still been. I've been working so like my day to day. Routine is pretty much the same. I don't come into contact with a whole bunch of people's it's just like there's a lot less traffic on roads. But they're all driving ninety miles an hour so it's just as annoying that you haven't gone anywhere done anything. I haven't been you know the the only change. The routine is not being able to go to the usual hangout spots that I would go to so it's not a different. I guess we might. What mine is. I finally went to my mom's she called me and my mom said I need your help. I need you to come over here. Lifted by myself. I need you to get it out of my car and get into the garage I went over there. I didn't go into her house by Jerry Lewis me and we did take our mask in case if we needed to go use herash true. Because I'm so paranoid my mom's older. My aunt lives are want to be the reason but I did feel like I was breaking rules because I sat on her back porch drinking beer. Even though we were like there's four of US spread out. Yeah I have your ear since my mom it everything I had in me not to give Mama Hug. I'm like I WANNA hug you so bad bob like. I just need a mom hug. Yeah I did. I did go visit a friend in a similar situation in just like we hung out ten fifteen feet apart from each other in his backyard. Outside had a couple of beers chatted and stuff but it was weird to not give them a hug each other. Because least we got to hang out and see each other's buddy you know. My Mom's backyard is legit my happy place like I love her backyard. It's like that's the my little relaxation. That's my happy place. Go to the pool senator. The Korean Ah dogs run around and it just wasn't the same because you had meaning the focus you know hugger so I'm okay. This is over. Took it if you like it or not? You hugged me. I had A. I had a really good conversation this morning. Yeah exactly I had a really good show today with the With the folks that own Detroit Shipping Company about some Plans on like partial reopening. And some stuff. That are planning on doing that. I think we're going to test out over the next couple of days That'll be good but other than that now I i. I really haven't left the House and Senate Promo become even more hermit ish In that like now that like spots are opening up in that kind of stuff arm relying on instinct ship to do my shopping for me like I. I don't even WanNa go grocery stores. I don't care Just I'm good like I once. This is over though. Yeah I'm GonNa wait for outside two point. Oh to hit like I'm GONNA. I'm maybe even a service pack after that like I'm going to let all the people that are all Gung Ho about it. Go Get Go be the Guinea pig for me. and figure out what's going to happen and and then yeah well. I mean he but even around here. I mean like you know the guests that we had on our show. Monday night was kind of scary at certain points in time with you know what what he was talking about. What the re the subsequent waves that he sees happening You know every time like restrictions loosened up a little bit in that kind of stuff because I mean let's be real people suck and they're stupid and so the restrictions are going to get loosened up this much and people are GonNa go this far and so we're going to see some. I'm sure we're going to see some shed and so it's it's Yeah. I'm a I'm a let other people beginning pigs and then I'll figure should I mean even though like I'm still convinced I had the shit back in January I gotTA figure out if it's worth it for me to go get the test all that stuff But still I mean I I all the Temple Temple Bar will still be there when I get there with you. In the JAR will stand plus looking at some of the restrictions on places that are opening. They're going to be allowed to like what four people inside Whiskey in the jar? Maybe five inside Temple Martin. Yeah Yeah Sleep you're gonna be able to let like four or five people in and then let them get their buzz on by themselves right there. Well I'm throwing it away. And that's and that's the weird part about it is like so now. You've got this conundrum of okay. Let's say you're a restaurant or bar owner and people are laid off and they're collecting unemployment and you know they're getting the you know the the additional assistance and all that stuff from the federal funds so you then open back up but you can only open at twenty five percent capacity and so you start calling them back. And you've gotta reconfigure your like the restaurants and bars have a hard time staying afloat when they're packed all the time and so saying that they can only be open at twenty five percent. Is that really economic question? I have for Laurie because Lauren. You said you are. You're not you're bartender. You're not working right now but you do have plans to go back to the bar that you were bartending right. Yes are you worried about that like when you go back into So fucking lutely absolutely worried about that for a couple of reasons actually One of them is because I work at a nightclub. I'm so sorry give me one and one of the things. One of the things I worry about is that first of all going into a nightclub. That's twenty five percent packs okay. They're going to walk in and be like a nightclub that holds five hundred people. Only having one hundred people in there is literally going to be like. This place is empty. This sucks. We're all my God. We're the losers that are here at eight o'clock on a Friday night even if it's midnight in my life not GonNa Ball with twenty five percent capacity. That means that all we can have is twenty five percent of the staff so we're only open two nights a week. So who gives you are really running in reopening? Oh Yeah and you know. It's the way that things are the way the things are happening. Obviously clubs and bars and restaurants. I close last open so we won't be open for a very long time and when we do it could go either way like it could be either. Everyone just goes reprieve rally day. We're saying we're we're just GONNA get a massive amount of people that WANNA go out and it's fucking packed or we might have people that are like screw that I'm GonNa way I'm GonNa see like what's going on and during that time that we're not making any money people aren't going to be like coming back. You know I have to say you're GONNA get your I think you're gonNA swarmed. The younger generation does not take the Jersey originally Yahoo and I had hit with this. It's going to be like a twenty one year old at all going to be their first of all they have not been able to be on any or anything else. So you've got you know you've got a group of forty people WANNA hang out. Get drunk assets. You organize. What's happening. Research is there. Is there a list? You're supposed to have signed up for or open ours. Get her body mass and Straw. This is going to happen. That's by believe I'd be swamped with a bunch of warning people who just want to get drunk and AFLA really. Don't blame them it in on the other hand though that's the age group is probably one of the safest so they don't have as much to worry about so to me. That's jake to them. I am out there every day dealing with people every day. I have somebody sitting across from me talking to me. You know doing all that like have somebody Crossley in front of me was you're my mask and everything else but the amount of people we have coming in like the most. It doesn't have to happen the you don't eat coming right now and I keep trying to write it yet. But they're so stuck with me. I'm having all these seniors coming in. And every time I see a senior I'm just like you're GonNa die a skinny still. We'll see yet some more. I want you to stay. No seriously I mean like I said but I mean that's that's totally how I totally how I look at it like did there's nobody I- nobody is having more anxiety about not being out in around people than I am. I mean that's that's just reality. I I am an extrovert extraordinaire. And this is driving me bat shit crazy and I'm still okay with hanging out waiting like dad. It's yeah it's that whole risk reward. You know where you do. Yeah where do you want your pain points to be me too because I go out to every single night after work home then this Florentine but I'm really upset about is? It was supposed to be my first Penguin Com. We over balked everything and it was going to be the first time I experienced us and and it was like oh now. Hopefully it all happening in next year. They'll be back next year. Well let's look at it like this like we're missing out on a whole bunch of stuff right now. But what is the risk reward? You know you gotta weigh all the all the things. And it's definitely been proven that we've saved lives by shutting down by closing down bars and restaurants and doing the social distancing it's proven in the numbers that it saved people's lives and I'm like that's worth it whatever kind of inconveniences or travesties. We have to go through for this. It's a global fifth bucking Amec. And it's worth it. You know like we can save more lives by doing it this way as long as it takes from all this is then We can all have beer deliver now. We did ear delivered now upset. Let's do our last Drunken Confession. The night right be good a doozy. Av Talk if it's also negative. Forgive you say no pressure now now you want me to go through like it's all my God. I liked the one. I had a traveling. We'll see get sucks actively here's my second choice. When did you have your first okay? I'm old moment. Have you ever like? Have you ever been like you stopped in like you stopped in the shoes? And you're like Oh shit. When did that happen with our old? Okay I worked at a place where my boss was very young compared to me and we she was telling me some story and she was just like You know this person is our age. There are age and I was like how old is he. She was like twenty one and I was. I'm thirty two hour when I realized that that's when I was like. Oh Shit when your boss is like eleven years younger than you. Then you're fucking gold mine might vary. I okay. I'm old is cast and I actually met if you notice already. We met in cosmetology school. We met in our later years in cosmetology school and later years. Yeah we were surrounded by a bunch of young girls and nine. Eleven came around the anniversary of nine. Eleven and a bunch of our classmates I'll never forget I was in the third grade. What am I way? Oh my God I was already graduated high school. And in the workforce what are you talking about Ari graduated high school I had three kids was like Chicago so when all these girls in cosmetology class we're talking about. They were in elementary school. They remember their parents like picking them up from school and being sheltered. I'm going I was already graduated. And in the workforce and I was at the job like looking at the TV like Holy. Hell and they're talking about what they were gave big. That's my first own. My fucking God old. Yeah I dropped a schoolhouse rock reference during a meeting at one probably about ten years ago. Now I drive the schoolhouse rock reference and like the three little consultants that were in the room like like a thousand yard stairs like had no idea. What the Hell I was talking about as I mentioned Schoolhouse Rock. And you really like yeah. I'm like no. That's that's where I went on like so you never heard conjunction junction. You don't know lolly lolly. And they're like no what are you talking about? I'm like you need to leave this room right now. Like you just need to get away from me before I kill all the content in the Henry Ford Museum. Yeah you know that they play that in the Henry Ford Museum. My sister-in-law works there. We go there last. Yeah and all kinds of things to say I used to. I used to work at Greenfield village. So I don't know about the Henry Ford and that I know my first summer job was shoveling. Coal on a steamboat. So how old does that make me feel jobs village? It was great. I don't have. It was funny if you lived in the eighteen six it was great I think age is just a state of mind Jonathan. Yeah there's going to be younger generations that don't get the cultural references that you do. So somebody'll be talking about Obama. GotTa remember I was in Grade School like when nine eleven happened. And I'm like I was in grade school when the Challenger exploded. Yes when they happen once again. It's more right right. Make you feel make you know. It doesn't make me feel. It might make me feel older generations. Who come up behind us. That don't pay attention deficit like you. That make you feel all because get older not old. I don't feel Jeremy. Do you have a meeting that I try and girls in her twenties and thirties? Okay Okay on Gandhi Br. It'll keep you young. You're only as old as the girls would feel. That's that's how that works. Jeremy old moment on wasn't really a moment was more like a year Probably when I turn twenty nine. I started realizing my body. He just wasn't known as fast as it used to. House twenty eight. I was the birth of my granddaughter. Now eight our grandson who was adopted by my side but when my granddaughter was born and I remember posting pictures me holding her and I would take them and he will actually thought it was my daughter so when people are like you have a little girl like yet knows my granddaughter. That's Kinda Hippie. Like yeah this will is going to turn seven in a couple of weeks. God and I have two grandkids. I have a grandson just turned ten. My granddaughter's could be seven in. I have one on the way so that kind of makes me feel old when I start talking about my grandkids given the fact that I don't even feel old enough to be an adult most. Tell me you don't act your age and I'm like well I've never been this fucked to hacked you know I don't know my people. I know that are my age. Yeah when people my age. I'm like Damn. How old are you like sixteen and most people my age do act it and know that I just the only time I feel age is what I'm getting out of bed in the morning. Liken it sounds like a bull race krispies. They have this morning. I'm getting up from like my because nasty noise of maybe Esotique like this and I'm like. Oh No that's horrible quite did. I just need to drink more milk. If you think you're like I need to. I need to have some more. You know sorbic acidy mice. I am getting older. You start worrying about these okay. Well that wasn't depressing drunken confession now that I am very games so so I just to sum everything up. We would like to everybody for hitting into Junkie Confessions. Thank you ready Lauren for joining August you. So by targeting US Tales. Verse have enough with so much fun. Did you enjoy yourself? You can let you don't have to lie. You can actually be no absolutely you can go drink myself into a stupor now. You have left all cracked third beer so then you planned well. You have chosen wisely so again and running. Let our listeners. Now the name of your podcast in your social media how they can contact you so tales from the bar side you can find us on facebook at or it's like slashed tales from the bar side and then on instagram tales underscore from underscore the bar side. All one word all right. Well thank you again guys for joining us. That this was a blast. I hope you've we have you guys back on again. Forward to play more cards against vanity clear winning again and I think that doesn't happen when I get to. Do I get to do a toast? You guys do that. Yeah we want to spread required. You just say you a friend request right before the show so I want to ask you to do it for you. Land was was caught with his pants. Down didn't have one so I came prepared those I just want visiting and hosting should he was our Sadaqa. Okay here's to the kisses. We've snatched and vice versa and we will catch you next week. Everybody thinks again for listening to our show tonight. If you want more information you can find it at facebook dot com slash. My drunken confession.

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"Today's opening tip to Allenby don's past Rhonda hells Jefferson points at him think it's teed up. What do you think? Fall. This was nineteen ninety something. He was Shawn. Kemp. We'd all be laughing. The funny play. I think that in this series where we've already seen things come to. I was going to say come to blows the NBA like actually coming to. Yeah. He's taunting. I mean. Welcome to the few by marathon. Producer daddy's all ready. This shows around for God that he's an all of our ears. Welcome to the job. I'm Rachel Nichols. Alongside our front office. Insider L hats and two thousand eight finals MVP Paul Pierce coming up. We're gonna talk about which team is more likely to see a game six in their series the warriors and the records we're going to discuss that a little later on. But I you know, we're getting to this. It's a funny thing what sticks with us. If I asked you what are your absolute favorite basketball memories? I bet some are players winning championships. But just as many are not Golden State's we believe team never wanna ring. But every time I go up to Oakland fans. Tell me those warriors are their favorite warriors when Larry Bird till the world. He just seemed God disguised as Michael Jordan. That was after game two of a first round series last night in Portland, the blazers weren't playing for title or even for their playoff lives. But sometimes a moment simply becomes bigger than the stage. Set on. I know you've probably seen the Damian Lillard shot one hundred times by now. But look once more this time with CJ McCollum, narrating it for you. For the last play bows. I was like you wanted to bought right? He's yes. Get it. And I didn't know he's gonna raise from forty. I was like, oh, yeah. He raised before your house. Bad. You know, what I said? Oh, we know. Now, I want you to watch it from this angle because you need to see how Dame waves off everyone looks at one of the game's best perimeter defenders like a spider examining a fly. Let's loose with Paul George's fingertips just inches from his. And then forget the path of the ball. Seriously, just say on day waiting all thirty seven feet, barely any emotion. And then the man waved he waived, I am not sure if that were cold blooded than the shot itself, but it was close. And then of course, the camera captured them me that will live until the time in all of MBA history. There are only five walk off buzzer. Beating shots to end a series. Here's nine hundred eighty six Ralph Sampson against the Lakers. Short, of course, v shot in eighty nine Michael Jordan tailing the Cavs killing the look. Oh, man like Mike then in ninety seven that before threes were so fashionable. Sending carol. And here's two thousand fourteen. Yeah. Lillard has done this before a fall away. Jay with less than a second on the clock at the time. He said that was the biggest shot of his life. Of course, it isn't anymore. Not after last night and look all the other blazers. They knew how much this one mental Lillard late last night. Evan Turner posted this screen grab. It's a DM conversation. He had with Dame more than ten days ago in which Dame promise a breakout postseason. And then there was use of nervous. I he showed up in the fourth quarter to give his teammates motion boost on the bench celebrating with them in the locker room after wearing. Got bricks next question that is of course, a reference to Russell Westbrook and the wind will read that is vested between these teams all season. After last night's game. The bad blood was still boiling here was Paul George. When asked about Lillard game winning shot. Shot. Care what anybody says as a Pash, but he made it that story won't be told. It was a bash. Live with that. I mean, look PG is right in that. If you look at every from more than thirty feet that everyone not named Damian Lillard has launched so far this postseason only sixteen percents of those have been made. But then you look at Lillard who has launched twelve of those and made eight which is sixty seven percent, which is good shot. The whole exchange was reminiscent of and Robert ory back in two thousand two shouts to our friend Howard back for remembering this or with the game winner. This was on glad as kings in the conference finals and here were the two men on the podium after. Lucky shot. That's all you'll need to have a skill source. You know in that kind of situation just throw it goes in goes in. No luck luxury. I've been doing that for all my career. So he should he should know. He re read the paper or something. Paper, by the way. That clip Paul George calling his shot a bad shot and his reply was just retweeted and right L O L and from the podium. He said this knows a lot of back and forth. A lot of talk in audit stuff. And that was the last word that was having the last word. The last word, and that's really why that shot goes into the NBA cannon, even though it wasn't a shot to win a ring after all the trash talk of this series of the blazers playoff frustrations past the untimely injuries. The all star smokes that shot was the answer. And yeah, the blazers still gonna play another round and start a new chapter, but that's shot last night. That was the completion of a very long impossible seeming journeys, and we will remember it all of it forever. Paul. That is classic right there talking to a man who called game, but he called series. Way worse than call it. You know, one good. You could say it all maybe bounce back when the series, but you call series. There's no coming back from that. Man. That's incredible. Settled the that's one of the greatest ever see how dangerous are the blazers. Now that they have this under their belt confidence booster like this can go a long way for this team. I mean, you know, they're going to see the senate's on the Denver, which probably be the favorite against either one of those then maybe matchup against Houston or go to state which could be a gray shootout between Dame and Harding or curry. Man days. I can see them in the conference finals before the playoffs. I said, okay. This team ceiling is the second round. But the way they play first round or so Casey concede impossibly into the conference finals and maybe the finals. Yeah. No see conference on. Has exciting as they were last night in this series. Kind of I I was one of the people before the playoffs. Started said. Yeah. Thunder because of all the reasons that we talked about. Portland's kind of advantages shooting and execution and the things that really matter play all time the how far they can go. They really have a favorable edge on the bracket. Right. Because if they play the Spurs playing against team that's much less talented. They play the nuggets planning team that's much less experienced, right? So they got the right amount of experience been here before gone through the trials. But also, hey, we got some horses over you can play. And I think that that makes them favorites in the next round like Paul said, and then the conference finals, I know anything can happen. But it's the goal and say well here here's the other fly to throw in the winter. The second round though, and his canter went to the podium last night with his arm, and he said that he separated his shoulder in the first quarter took a painkiller shoddy time so he could play through. And he said he's like look I intend to play through. I'm not missing in a games, but he will be limited. They've already taken a hit that position with. So is just something to watch big four clearly really big for them. Get especially on the offense of glass. How many times where they were coming up with big second time opportunities because of him. But you know, it's tremendous Kanter and the blazers need to root for the Spurs from here on out because they needed not not for who they wanna play. And I'm not saying the Spurs would be an easier opponent. I'm saying that they want that series to go seven so Denver's on the brink of winning that if San Antonio can at least win game six that gives them extra days gives Kanter extra days, and that could offend whether they get to the conference finals, I do the damn side. And there's though by showing you what he posted on. I g just today. It is the unemotional reserved calm detached warrior who wins not the hothead. Steam engines, not the ambitious seeker fortunes. I mean, it's sons his talking. Roller. Leagues you guys see the Kris Haines thing. So the night before Christmas goes to dinner with Damian Lillard. And if you re he's talking while before the game, even started he said he'd say he told Russell Westbrook hiding from this. Yes. From his weapon, he made it he knows he was showing a social media. There's actually a Damian house, and he was showing people over and Chris says that the Damian showed on his screen, just the social media clip. Basically, you know, Willard is guarding Westbrook on a majority of possessions and Westbrook keeps switching off Dame. When they come down on the other side, also finish these mother lovers tomorrow. That's what he said dinner the night before. Penny, and he talks it when he needs to talk. Call. That's right. Quote, the great. I mean, it is saying towns. All right. Let's talk about the thunder side. Because remember they Mason the lower seed, but they actually came into this series favored by Vegas. Just look at the final game. Okay. Guys had a fifteen point lead with six minutes to go and blew it. And this is the third year in a row they've been unable to make it out of the first round. So Paul Lewis most the blame here for this. You'll be easy to tack. Russ will be easy to time Paul George, but I put a lot of this Billy Donovan, you know, this is the third year in a row does team flamed out in the first round. It's not like they didn't have the talent favor heaven lived up to expectations in the regular season. I mean, we looked at this team before the season started. I mean, there's no way we thought this'll be a sixteen. So I think there's a lot of flaws in their offense and defensive systems that they can clean up the talent. Is there? There's nothing they're to be able to do with this roster. No cap space. So I think they need another voice. I think they need another voice. Westbrook needs to have a voice that he can respect and listen to order for this team to recent next level interesting. Yeah, I'm glad you kinda brought this out because it's time for blame. Blah, Oklahoma City. Ooh, we got graphics now. Ten percent of Billy Donovan for the reasons that Paul said, you're the head coach it's your responsibility to get this team on the right page off of defensively. And they just haven't been able to do that not in the playoff. I'm gonna give another slice though, a bigger slice to help. Or so twenty five percents to help. And it looked Paul George shoulders one. Andre Rogerson did not play a single minute all year long. And we know how important it was last them defensively if the thunder were healthy, they'd be a better team. They have more wins. I wouldn't win this series. They win this series. But they have a better record. And they probably be higher in the standings playing against an easier opponent. I'm giving other slice. To Sam prestige. Okay. Sam pristine gets a slice in a big size of twenty five percent slice right there. Because Sam presi put together a roster. No, his main talent. Okay. Three point shooters at best. Oklahoma City needs to be like Milwaukee. Janas can't shoot cool. Everybody else has to be thirty eight thirty nine forty plus percent three point shooter. They're not that. They've got Paul George great shooter. But everyone else is I can live with you shooting hitting a couple. And if you miss I'm gonna help you a lot right? But then the biggest slice. I'm sorry. It got to go to Russell Westbrook. He gets baited year after year after year harden Rubio this year Lilith he wants to win this match of wits against a guy instead of trying to win the game and win the series. And that's what happened last night. And that's what happened the night the game before. Had a couple stretches last night where he was playing. So smart. He's very sound basketball making the right decisions. He had that run in the fourth quarter. We made some clutch clutch shots. He was taking those shots. But he was making them. But yes, we're right impulse control is execution game. And the reason why like you could blame Billy Donovan because as head coach that's your job. But I've yet to see the head coach got this dude to be able to rain his emotions in and play a thinking man's game in the plane. You remember early nineties when the Lakers had who Dale Harris as a coach team Kobe shut what they do. Okay. You know, what they brought in the new coats Jackson, and be know what the difference. Tippy neither Kobe difference. Neither Koby no shack with an eleven year. MBA he old enough by not to know Ben old dip, it doesn't make any brought in the new coach. And that's why you gotta sites, but this guy young. While you were doing blame pie. They did pick up the option on Billy Donovan's contract at the beginning of the season. So his contract goes through the end of next season. Go. Uh-huh. Where he goes with that. I do just want to say about Paul George. I think we are going to find out that injuries a lot worse. Let on ledges sheaves balls to. He's he led the team in scoring. He played forty minutes game. I don't think any of that blame pie is on him. So up next the raptors Sixers care business last night in their respective game. Fives through set up a huge second round showdown which team should we trust? We'll discuss but first time for issue. Replayed from this date in ninety eight the big valid catching another body. Coming back to the other end this. Ooh. Kelvin out the door lock Donio, Georgia not, but it's L I. The announce. Lately. Is presented by marathon. Fueling the American spirit. And in part by Disney's Aladdin in theaters may twenty four. That from the Knicks for waving me. So that will never happen. If you know if they wave me appreciate the whole Mannix organization. Make miss is a maker mislead. Maker and his canter. Always so good at the podium and man good in the game play through injury drop thirteen and thirteen and after the game he tweeted can play cantor. That is of course, a reference to the two thousand seventeen playoffs counter was on the thunder Billy Donovan caught on tape saying can't play cancer because of his eve. You mean like the tweet preventers he managed to. At least two of his former rival coaches, owner form organizations. Well done. Respect Marcus pulls off the little steel block combo watch this on DJ Augustine smother chicken that ain't no steel. Quite Randy mosses air. And does it. Alway there, which is more respectful disrespect. Oh, no. I block the block. Like, would you kids in the backyard? Yeah. That's like me verse little prince. Six year old. So. The raptors blowing out the magic to advance to the conference semis. Drake's feeling good. And it's Ron OB reporter tweeted Drake to the media on his way out of the building. You want me to talk about the cursor? You guys good? We need a bigger sample size dry on one ten right? Thank you know to the conference fine. Sixers the Sixers. We'll see let's see how many games go Sudan our. Humor about it. Sit out the first couple of games of the series weight. But I'm just let's test it like slowly. Did close out their first round series last night, Billy sending Brooklyn home after a twenty two point win a game. Five guys wasn't even that close. They will now face Toronto and the conference semis. Did you trust more raptors or Sixers in this one Paul? The rafters only because. Siaka has really stepped up. You know calorie would have been their second best player. I don't know. But since he stepped up with Danny green, quiet quieter championship experience. I gotta go with the gotta go with those. I'm going to say with the raptors because all those things that Paul mentioned, but also knowledge of self the is no exactly how they wanna play. The everyone knows that role. They bought into the role. They don't have the issues that Philly still seems to have is Ben Simmons not treating the fourth quarter facing him and beat on the floor is in beat healthy. There's still a bunch of question marks Philly that really want resolve against the nets had a game where and beats 'cause it injure that again would Jimmy Butler. Gotta check players have played together. I think lesson like fifteen times something like that. That can either be a good thing. Right. Could also be a bad thing. Maybe they're not that good together. I'm not saying they're not good individually. But maybe that's not the best mix because that. One in this series. I do think that Embiid health back to me is the biggest question here. Right. Because that's the kind of injury that could bother him the whole next two weeks where could just start to feel a little bit better depending on the rest he gets. And if he is a monster like we have seen him be in some of these playoff games. He is going to be trouble. We Rhonda how they can tighten up sometimes even with Dana green. Now, if things aren't going their way, but if he struggles I trust I and Danny green Antioch. And Lowry to take advantage of it hasn't been challenged. And I like that trade with assault. I get big body. You can throw them be. And that's all you really need. He wasn't challenged. Nobody could even like put any weight on meals. This like big brother's little brother also buried Allen. That was his first play all so they'll get challenged. But I think overall experience that the Toronto team has and Chevy should experience is going to play out and Debbie and. The debt. Jiri Paul's finally, come around he likes to trade. Now, here's what the jump recommends today. Royce young and Bobby marks Ken companion pieces on Oklahoma city's future Paul's wearing Oklahoma City colors today, Royce s the tough questions thunder fans are wondering about after they got bounce in the first round. Again. Bobby breaks down there is higher calf outlook check it out on the app. We'll talk about it when we return. Is nothing like while DisneyWorld reveal to come here with our family and spend quality time DisneyWorld is a magical place code. I put me in a picture, right? Three. It's unreal. Something for everybody will moats it even more special that place where kids and grown-ups complaining. Oh, come on. I'm already are you letting these plays? Is nothing like spinning day here while DisneyWorld is no way that you can be here without smiling. Welcome back to the Jim view by marathon. You gotta you gotta fight for your right below here. Now Westbrook feel. Welcome back to the jump. What an incredible performance from Damian Lillard last night fitting, let's shift though to the thunder side of the equation. They've been eliminated as we mentioned first round third straight year. The let's look forward as they approached the summer mean take a look I mean. A pretty picture here. This is the second highest payroll in the league, by the way, sixteen million dollar luxury tax Bill and three straight first round losses. This year. One playoff win Mon game, not a whole lot of fun. Not a whole lot of flexibility there. But before I even get into that. I got to go. You know, we got a team game. Express addition here. First of all, we got my man, Battista bassin tell fair he ain't walking through that door Coney Island legend. Oh, we got Koran. Right. We're the hair corron. This is like twenty years ago. I see that airline back, then, you know, walk into that door who doesn't Mason. When a great dunkers of all time man, forget about him hell of a dumper. He not walking through that door Lazar Hayward. Oh, remember him. And Gordon came in the league at the same time. And that's how this trailer was our Hayward the Marquette you'll remember him. Don't matter. So now that we've established that who is walking through the door shooting needs to walk through that door. And I get it shootings a premium, and it costs a lot, and they're not just growing on trees. But they have to find a way. Whether it's to the rap whether it's out of the D league. Whether it's. Julie excuse me. Sorry gatorade. Or whether it's packaging some of the guys that they have and making the move, but the need to get some reading room because we've established it's again eleven years career Russell Westbrook game three point shooter. And he's not going to have the wherewithal to stop shooting threes as much casing kid moment coming. It's not coming in even decent kid his threes came of a catch and shoot really towards the tail end of his career. They have to build like Milwaukee. They've gotta find value guys. Like a book Lopez last year from the walkie. They gotta find deals like a nickel miratec Milwaukee. And they got us around these guys with elite shooters, and then that'll give him some room in some space. How do they do it? Do you have five million dollars spin me for one? And there's people who no they could trade Stephen Adams to give some of that. Heart of your team in that locker room so much on the floor defensively. And by the way, he's got a pretty decent sized contract to. Not ever gonna want that. Come on. Yes. Even Adams, Paul, George Westbrook. That's that core. Ninety seven million just to those threats. Just those I get it. But what he does not much. They can do. There's always something to do Paul. It's always always some you can structure. Well, I I would I got at the talent I would agree with both of you that it is incredibly hard, and they have backed themselves into a crazy corner. But as a means says, and this is why Daryl Maury keeps winning those executive of the year honors or at least should get another look again this year look at what he did basically scrounging between the G league the year before he took jail. Green ALPHA's off the street. I'll give you a better example that fits this. Remember when the clippers, and they said, they're paying all this money to Dion drei, Chris Paul and Blake and not have they're gonna get money shooters. But then what happened over the last few tire team for? But it's not like they went out and got high price shooters, they found quality guys, they found value deals, and they surrounded the Gaza shooters Miami's another team that keeps finding God's Rodney mcgruder was a guy they found out out of out of nowhere. These guys exists. It's not easy. I'm not here to say, it's easy. I'm here to say, this is the part where the work begins because you got the hard part. Right. You got to stars. And in the league defensive big. That's the hard part a lot of things can't find that. But now, the the hard work part is finding those little gems those diamonds in the rough say that the window is super tight because we said when Russell Westbrook sign that supermax extension. We said at the same time. Absolutely Oklahoma City has. To do this. Right. They had just lost Durant. You have to keep Russ have to offer him that money and keep him. But we knew in that moment. This is going to be a terrible contract in the final couple years. He's making up to forty seven million dollars. And this is a guy who plays his game on athlticism, and we have already seen. Did you see the lift he got on that lash out of the game last night? It was not the old Russell Westbrook lift we are already seeing his game fall fall apart, but change, and and and in different ways not being able to do some slippage. Now, he can as you point out. I mean, he could adjust if he wants to if he puts his mind to it. There is no one in this league as competitive Russell Westbrook. And I believe that he wants to do something he can adjust and do it, but he has to mentally get to the point where he wants to do it. And until then that contract is going to get worse and worse as letter system goes down that contract is worse and worse. So you you better make some moves now to make next season count on. All right. Let's take a look at who is playing with confidence. You by Toyota, the nuggets more common than ever a lot of confidence in this league gets beaten this first by eighteen points game five taking a three two lead in the series Jamal Murray leading the way with twenty three points supply, the nuggets figured it out. Now. The Spurs to win a game another game on his first floor. And I said to see restarted that if this go seven games, I have to favor the veteran sentence on the Spurs the veteran coach team will be in Denver this. I'm telling you. They got the veteran. They have the know how they coach and a game seven I will never bet against the Spurs. This is the team this'll be a team first time in the playoffs as a group. I game seven there's a lot of nerves that can go into a game seven that you can't you can't account for and it's a real thing. Thank you Denver. Never happened. I think they have to win games. His if they don't win game six the Spurs are moving on. It reminds me of you guys remember New Orleans and San Antonio was the two thousand eight and they also went to seven title the the year before but this year, they were planning and the Hornets really good. And this is a tough match-up and sure enough same thing if you win game six it's a rap act the game seven and they went to game seven Spurs did with the Spurs do now much better. Locking out. Tim douggins? But the fact of the matter is they did what they needed to last night. And now they need to just end all discussion because he leave that door the nuggets leave the door open a little bit. They means you give the opportunity gig poverty kick that door. King does not come at you too many times Orlando Magic season came to a close last night. But they have a big decision to make this summer on unrestricted free agent. Nicola Busa vich mean should the magic bring back? He's the first time all this at the beginning of the year. I would have said no, I thought he was a guy very talented, but not necessarily his individuals success and team success, not necessarily, tether teach other. He's changed a lot. He's improved a lot particularly defensive in. And that's where a lot of my concern. Yeah. Cliff and so shot it anywhere else on the right coach with the right guy can make a difference. I think continuity is a good thing right now. Let's be on just had some Durant and the role of guys especially the top row. Maybe most of the bottom row dot, they're not they're not. But it's not about he'll be get. Someone else is about we have big on Ross right now should we develop them and new debt money to invest elsewhere for years to come because remember sending booth to win your deal going to sign on three or four years. I don't think I'll do this deal. He's command. If not a MAC salary. Yeah. He's gonna ask host to that. And you just drafted MBA. Like somebody who you wanted to come in and played up position. I don't know if this worth me invest in Busa vich for a core player. This young is young lotto pick on develop this first because we're nowhere near attempts or a consistent playoff team. You know, we really got in the playoffs Orlando. So I don't know if I want to invest all that money, he'll get the money somewhere else. But what this team? I think I wanna grow with the young core. That's I mean, that's a good point. But I would say the Corcoran grow. While you have that guy and then once moma's reading you can kick new Nikola boosting. Doors. Buddy, not walking through that door with a staff infection or what Mersa what was. Grady, our friend all the band. Doors single handily with the broken bag, right? Oh, when we got here, skipped him alu the pride and joy of Jamaica, queens, outdoor. And. Vidi walking there. They got some penny. Hardaway say earlier this year on the back. Howard on staff. Did not know who little penny was the youth. Teach the youth today. People go go to someone you love who's younger than you. And tell little that's your task for today. Coming up stick with us, Jason Kidd is interviewed for the Lakers. Head coaching job. Would he be a good fit? A let you answer that during the break at home. And then keep it locked on the jump. We'll answer it on TV. Same steals night on the case or the Kansas at the coral. Kyla Murray sniffing the night before the draft. What about monthly's how investigations running mosquitoes? Heavy kill and the only thing aftermath of Damian Lillard. Incredible. Kyrie's winner against the thunder with Kevin the gone right after TI. David men reporting, Jason Kidd, interviewed with rob Pelinka and Kurt Rambis for the Lakers. Head coaching vacancy on Monday. That's according to league sources just here on set just a couple of weeks back and hit should cut a lot of heat because right here he expressed interest in the Lakers job. Even though Luke Walton still hold it. The Lakers job still regardless. You know of whoever is in it or not in is it is still a desirable thing to coach in Los Angeles. I think when you look at the Lakers as a whole it's as a franchise that is one of the best in the world. Not just, you know, an MBA but the world, and so if you ever had the opportunity to wear purple and gold, you you can't turn that down as a coach as a player because they're all about championships. So clearly he will say, yes, if offered do you guys think Paul the he'll be? A good. But I like the direction they're going. You know, I like the fact that you you're interviewing player coaches tied. Lou, Jason Kidd, Monty Williams guys. I think LeBron can have some respect for. So whether it's new whether it's Monty was J kit for even Juwan Howard. I liked the direction and what their go which they're going in and trying to hire a coach. He no, I think there's a common threat year. All those guys on that list are very direct communicators straight shooters, we talked about this before with David Griffin. That one of the reasons why Tyler was picked to lead. The Cavs was because he was a guy that told the Braun what he needed to hear not what he wanted to hear. And that's a huge thing. And the people that live on in. That's got to be a priority. And then secondarily, I know it's fun on the internet to kill Jason Kidd. All what a terrible coachie was. And look what buzz done, but one of the things he doesn't get enough credit for is developing up in Janas development. A lot of those young players on the team who will tell you that these say thank you to coach kid for helping us become the players that we ought today the situations paradox. Because remember Jaanus was upset when Jason Kidd was let go there to the point of, you know, trying to go to them and being like, maybe don't do this. But then it's clear that coaching is what part of what's elevated that team the difference level different facet of coaching Xs and os is different from player development with different. Looking for player development. Even though of course, these young guys are I'm just saying, it's new complicated. Zang played for Jason Kidd in Brooklyn. What was it like to be coached by him a long way 'cause I've ever when he first got there. He just dropped the place. And so you know, it was on neutral just kind of retired jump into coaching. But I know he's come along way Jason Kidd miniature spending season, he wasn't drawing a place. Vigo's? Oh, we had a we had a long Frank. Who is we had assisted pruning our office? Coach we had a deep coat kid is a motivator. You know? Kid is a good talker. He's a leader. But as a season went on he started grasping that concept of late game situations as a point guard he'll pick it up, and he did again like that's just one part, and we talked about when you have LeBron James player development isn't as big a deal. I'll tell you Xs and os isn't as big a deal because what LeBron you got the ball shooters out there. That's that's the bare bones of your off think that's something Tyler doesn't get enough credit for is that he is an Xs. No, coach, just and the adjustments. Not only between games of series. But in game that he made over the course of those years. I know right. I mean, I coach through current games. I think that's something people need to pay more attention to that. Yes. Relationship with LeBron and his past is obviously something that would recommend him for this job. But I think that's pretty big deal to. All right. Our age emerging hausky reporting that Monty Williams is the sun's primary target for their head coaching position. But they're also interviewing a pair of blazers assistance, Nate Tibbets and David vanterpool as well. Now, Paul if you were money Williams in the Lakers, we're looking at you, and the sons are looking at you, which is the more desirable job. Less than if on my list at all. I don't even know if I will consider them. I it's it's too much dysfunction in a slant organization. Started from the top down starting from Robert saw ver I mean, you go back to two thousand fifteen they're looking for their fifth head coach this is or year. I am in no way. Ability there. I am in no way defending the organizational stability of the sons or Reverend server, but on the Lakers side, you did just have Magic Johnson quit on national television. To go around. No more. This is not it's too much dysfunction over there. I mean, I'll rather go down in flames with the Lakers. Well years ago when lamarcus. Chair Marcus Aldridge was a free agent and the Spurs and the sons we're going after them if someone asked me on sportscenter, I believe if you're lamarcus Aldridge, would you say it's like being an actor. And you've got to offers and one is a blockbuster movie to make with Steven Spielberg and other ones the blockbuster movie to make with Steven Seagal. Battle stress. The Lakers have had over the last two years. Whatever it is nothing nothing compared to what's going on here. But you know, what it won't even be an issue. You know, why? Because once your name is mentioned in the Lakers job conversation. Guess what my rate goes book? And that's when the sun say Nate tip. It's how you doing. Because they're not gonna pay. And if you don't believe me look at their coach the last coach the coach before that the coach for that going back to I think even my dad Tony below average compensation compensation league wide. So Terry porter, Alvin gentry, etc. Senator there were all below average paid coaches, so don't even worry about it. Monte you won't even you'll you'll you'll give them the number and they'll say appealing roster. They could have I mean, you know, they got Devon Booker. They've got down eight and they've got what I know. I know I'm just trying to shaky the rockets in the warriors can close out their respective series tonight. But which team is more likely to get pushed to a game six have your answer ready after the break or so here's our distant replay bizarre second one from this date. This one's two thousand five not this Carter the two year boys national Mari. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. This is clean researchers stack. Probably try to stack it by the hair. We'll see what. Hair flow. 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EP 066 - Marriage Struggles & Divorce in Lockdown, Tips on Raising a Hafidh - Umm Talha

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EP 066 - Marriage Struggles & Divorce in Lockdown, Tips on Raising a Hafidh - Umm Talha

"The administrator toni regime this mela will select salaam a letter to last a long while he was selling the brothers and sisters salama legal. what's Welcome to this feed podcast episode. Today i have with me against. We've had before i'm the largest kindly agreed to come on again albeit virtually because of lockdown etc. I have with me today on half on thought as you may remember Is the head off an organization called marital and you know they. They run events in classes to help people improve. Their marriage isn't to support them and to support marriages in general the a salon while ago while he can sit down with labor to who. When a how are you i'm fine. Tell us we've just been in lockdown and you know obviously things are starting to open up and you know things going back to normal but both in london during lockdown I don't know about you but was getting contacted by a few people. It seems that the whole kind of covid situation unfortunately seemed to have coolest families to really struggle at times. I the what you'll thoughts have been during this time in your observations have been with people during this period. Kind of issues have been raised a love to hear from you. Not that allows analysis phenomenon. he'll fabio minoa when flexible Thank you for inviting me through the show again. And it's always a pleasure to have a discussion with you and talk about issues. Relate marriage family life parenting because i think these are the issues that are being faced by muslims daily on a daily basis is really good discuss these issues and look for solutions that we can fight to take on board so that we can improve your family life in grew relationship so in the community. I saw actually have trends. I saw one. I've where family happy the fact that they had and together Be able to spend you know quantity moments together being each other's company and He did not feel at a lot of restraint with regards to the time so the relaxed. I'm table and had opportunity one so well. They were quite grateful to have the blessing in disguise. Time with the family on the relationship was thriving on hamdala then on the other side. I saw i heard of stories. Where absolute anchin forelock on and doing the look on what happened. He's at issue niggling beneath the surface they basically into the surface and really all came out and were having little of a degree moments. Irritation and arguments because lockdown was no escape. You just bullied your problem so if you look at the bigger picture i it. It's almost like you know. I'm easing up to people's problems that were there. But maybe in the post people wanna addressing these problems though locked on made people face up to the problems and with it and decide what to do or to carry on and move forward and of course we've had stories really sad stories where people were suffering from a domestic abuse and violence and so on and so forth but in any case made people think about the relationship serious level and in a way for them to rethink. What is it that they want out of the relationship. The pressure of being together during on made people take the relationship seriously. Yeah and what was the question. They want to carry on in if they do. Then they need to look for willis to the relationship so this mohammadi in the family home. Did you notice any kind of translate that yourself upon the well I guess i'll talk from experience. 'cause i think sometimes you know people look at people like send you know they hear from us and they think maybe you know We'd i'd struggle right so have sometimes i like to share like in a my own struggles experiences because it reminds all of us. I guess that we're in this together. We will at different times of live in different stages in different situations. We all have our struggles and perhaps in sharing. We can help each other. So i think yeah i think initially there was like it was quite shocking enough to like like you said that intensity of being at home you know. The schools closed everyone just being at home it set. I have no idea why. I started becoming very emotional during that time again. I think i even did kind of online talks and things you can tell. I was very very emotional and a few people even contacting I don't know why that was a cop. Put my finger on it exactly. But i would say that. I think any type of change can be quite disconcerting in especially when you had certain things timed out or you got used to a certain way of being with your family son routine and then you said the intensity of everyone together. Not really having any kind of respite from one another. Obviously they will positive. Things came out of that. There were lots of positive things you know. Having to kind of re. I would say reassess your routine of get rid of some unnecessary stuff right from your routine and then you could introduce some positive things a new things out say so in that sense it was great but definitely. I think it was a time. When you re started noticing your own i would say flows in your own like character flaws or things that trigger year in terms of You know your tampa stress etc. You just became. I think a little bit more aware of that and the types of a kind of phone calls getting from people when things like one contacted me and she felt that you know there was a lot of negativity in the house now. during lockdown had kind of gotten worse and you know she said that her spouse was he had a quite a lot of anger issues. And so you know. She felt that that was being exacerbated during this time these magnified. Ooh you know being in lockdown over negativities making her feel wesson. Choose all senior adviser in that kind of situation up people. I noticed for them. Things got really serious. Like and i know. I read a few articles on line where people lich inquiries about divorce. Place me when out jiri cobra. That's generally in the general population. Oc as muslims wear in general population is lots of this society. So i'm sure that you know. People had challenges. People had points who they felt. Oh my god. I can't deal with this war things like that and i just feel like maybe we can offer some solid some words of advice. Maybe you can share some of your foolish if during lockdown or even not june down if often down people have sought to feel that there are differences. You know I would say the they feel Irreconcilable right what would your advice be to sisters who come to you say to you. You know the. I think america to the wrong person you know something about what do you say. Well i think one of the things that one has to remember as he change in our life is going to have an impact on general well-being you know not just marriage. But general well-being though we have come to terms with these changes and readjust and that means a relationship has to be readjusted though mechanics. Not the time to be thinking okay. My relationship is not working. Because you have to remember stresses some people have lost jobs. There is at home. this exiled. zaidi about ill-health. So many that we're dealing with that if you think about our relationship and how it's been a fit of course is going to have an impact on relationship but it doesn't mean that your relationship is no good and any lost. It's important for us to rationally and look at okay. Where is the problem. And what am i feeling. Negative about my relationship is there room for communication with my spouse. Is there room for reconciliation. Because being one hundred one thing has come about as accessibility to sin services because lot of people were offering is online nowadays lectures seeing fleeing services so was very easy to access the services but it means that if couple were facing problems now is the time to access these services without feeling that you are. You know. i'm going to weigh all feeling the shame or embarrassment of walk into a counseling session. Because everything was done from home so i would say try to understand what's going on in the relationship. Try to understand what's going on with you because sometime when changes happen as we mean in i know for sure i can relate. You fought during lockdown. I was quite am. Can i say not emotion. But i was quite upset the for the equity. See some of my loved ones. Accuracy acronym utopian even the pannella. Of course lot of our social interaction was changed. And that's going to have an ana were being general wellbeing so you have to understand that. It's something this victim view from children. Young people to add those two older generation though you relationship with would be affecting some level not having previously because children at home. Not having that. I'm where you can your spouse because this much going on the stress me. Your husband has lost. His job made redundant so all of those issues would have an impact on new relationship. Though it's very important understand. What can i say. Egg knows the problem closely. Okay how can we make top. And of course there is steps you addressing these marital issues in looking for a resolution and then if you have tried all the steps and he's not working of course you can consider in a way out but that should be the last resort because many times You know may be conflicts within themselves and may be any to address certain personal issues. Then they can bring more to the able and offer things more in the relationship. You think person has a problem in their marriage. Then they feel okay. Divorce you know is is gonna fix it. It will have a problem you don't address it if divorce remarry problem is not going to go away. Despite you divorcing the plumber just travel on you. We have to address certain issues for even even before mentioning the d. word even before mentioning votes out. Say so pamela. You know you know they say. Never write a letter when you're angry right. Like why did they say that. Why do we have that same kind of like advice. The island is used to give us right like. Don't write an important letter. Were important reply to a message. When you were in heightened state of emotion right. I think that is because later on when you're not angry and you read that letter back you realize how terrible it sounds and how you feelings might have changed right there. I think really important for people make huge life decisions in a state of stress when you are in a stay in a when things that abnormal. That's not the time to be making huge life decisions in fact. That's the time to be kind of. I would say to go into leaky mode. Yeah you know some kind of preservation mode where you're literally realizing That's what sober isn't it yet. The schools are patiently. Persevering is owned where you realize. Okay this something different. That's not extra level of pressure on my family. At the moment i call. I can't use this period of time to judge. You know what life is going to be like long time not right because because it's not a normal period of time so he's a global musiba is locked down so we have to get like that. It's time will we will be tested. And the relationship was rookie fee lockdown. Of course this. I'm going to have a greater impact. Yeah so. I think you're right in saying that. You know this is not comfortable making such life changing vision. You just going to add on extra challenges in this difficult period. you know. i'm would say that you know knocked on has brought about of introspection on relationship in general in people have started to evaluate the relationship with the lebron because we had to socially isolate not just couldn't meow held its right exa- clean and i don't think people realized how important these relationships and connections are because we just random. I thought for myself. I used to get together with my family. When locked onto place. I felt as if my evenings were a bit like you know. I felt lost because it was taken that know saturday evening. Meet together with my family members. And i really miss them and i realize how important such are that. We take for granted or weaken underneath up with the family. All some of my friends. I couldn't see. I realized how important those relationships are. That time in life is busy. We don't have time but lockdown showed us that said. Is you have to make time for. Because he make you feel as a whole person you know they give you a lot of joy and they make you feel like you know you'll present and make you feel alive because the people that you share your life with you. It makes you life what it is. I'm rely so. I guess it's introspection fool tattoo relationship. I think another thing is up time in these situations we we put the. We're facing problems with were noticing clashes with our spouse the family members. We tend to put the blame on them. We we think there's some Problem with that person war you know with the situation but actually a lot of the time i think especially in town. I think one of the things that one of the real problems was not actually that you know your personalities come crashing. Will you got differences that you cannot reconcile etcetera etcetera a long time. It was just about being more organized. And like i'm being really. I'm over simplifying things but sofala if you're using the same space now everything. Everyone is working from home. Everyone is doing all of their activities in our may be studying people trying to get essays. Don during lockdown i was. I was like that so there is this and then eating home all right. Let's there's more mass declare up more. There's more to be don right. So i think sometimes the stress of that woman now. You actually have to get reorganized allocating space and saying we have a family meeting in need to have a family and say guys you know we. We need to work this out. We're going to. We don't know how long we're going to be in this situation. We want to sit down. We're going to work out. What each of our needs are what space in the house is needed. By whom right. Who's going to be doing these jewels. You're gonna be doing these. Different jobs to prevent oval right. So i know that sounds like i'm over simplifying it but actually i think sometimes the clashes that take place are actually over. Things are quite easy to solve if we are willing to like pinpoint. Actually what is it what is it. That's kuzan is what is it that caused this. This tension right is actually just. Our personalities are completely different. No it's probably not bad. It's probably just you now have to renegotiate your relationship. Have to renegotiate the space that you're sharing together as family right. I think a being at home has brought straight in. The family dynamics and resources schools sharing it in the family members has been a challenge. I mean like people who live in say a small accommodation commission when they're together in one under one roof obviously there's going to be a level of irritation and annoyance. You have to kind of create your own space personal space that you can get away from the family and have until so we're given time you can study will do your thing you know am so having an understanding between commun- was okay time i'm going to be using the room or living room for please. Do not disturb so having that communication so that there is understanding you. Can your own space would help to prevent a lot of arguments. A lot of you know conflicts together. Of course it was eating together. Everyone's eating home. This move miss being made and of course the question is who's going to clean up after these myths that's been made responsibility sharing it. Feddie makes it easy on the whole make of the mother or the wife in the house. And i know many sisters have complained that you look down. It seems i'm forever cooking. And i'm forever cleaning and i'm forever iding up because oversee members of the home. I inside the house in schools. Living creates miss you know and sometime can create a lot of irritation and of arguments and might okay. We will permanent relationship. I'm simple things of understand. Okay you know what we need to share the load because it was sharing the space and we share the loan. Maybe like having a you know a discussion look together like what you said. Family meetings a great. Because you know me me place. You see people together up working together. The has to be communication and the communication is done through meeting together as a family. Meeting is excellent. I remember when the lockdown took place. we were discussing. Okay how should we spend the time effectively. What you redo okay. Maybe the good thing that we together. Maybe you can pray together so having that way we can on a sunday actively in also with okay. We need to get that. So maybe we can include some kind of reminded us and i think in productivity can be time we can come together we can eat together now that we all under the same roof. There has to be tom way we go off. And do i seen as well so am family meetings so pamela reminded me the one of the things i would say. There are few things that really helped. And i'm just gonna sheridan so that maybe other people could benefit from this. One of the things really healthy is we actually wrote down the times that we were going to pray in joma in the house and we just wrote it down and it was put in front in our sitting room a prayer area and that way instead of there being like arguments will stress about getting everybody together. Everyone knew at the beginning of the day. What the times prior are going to be for the bench. And that way and we we allocated that the job of like leading the prayer and cooling everybody to my elder son so in a way it kind of made things a lot smoother just setting that time and and there's a simple thing right but without setting the times what was happening. Is you know literally even people. Don't pray jomaa all literally going round cooling everybody getting tired right like getting everybody together at a particular time so just by doing a simple thing such as setting with prayer times for the week as a family really made a difference. Another thing that really got me through lockdown delegate you can identify with. this is very soon into lockdown. I contacted my one of my teachers in egypt. And i said i need daily koran plus with the right obviously i know how to read koran. I've gotten ajaz. Khan let you know in reciting That's not the reason why needed a teacher. I needed somebody to help me get disciplined about reciting and memorizing every single morning and obviously we each ourselves best and i knew that if i do not have a teacher is gonna phone me at a particular time in the morning is just not going to happen in a simply because there's so much so much to do cetera and so just instituting that hof in iowa throughout the whole of lockdown often our s thing in the morning i had the koran recitation On memorization. close which i would attend teaching egypt's over zoom. I'm telling you that that whole phenomena was like the power station for the whole day you know always gave me something to reflect on you know just made my heart feel alive during the time and we even had two deaths in our family like in india so obviously that kind of made things even more emotional. I think you know. I would say that in the morning and then a daily walk which i was having a straight off to that in a way those were my self care you know remember. Last time we talked about self care. While and i really think the koran and exercise of during during this period you i think. I think it's a very good point that you raised. I don't think reconstruct enough the importance of having koran on a regular basis. Especially you know in the morning in a in a city shooter in the granite sedation. The morning is a very blessed. Into and i too. You know when look took place was re re evaluating my schedule for the in the week and i was thinking okay. L. hamdullah there's no rush for. I can easily tried to do this. The maybe before. There was a lot of time constraint. Why can easily do that. And not feel that okay. I can't know lying a bit long because obviously the time able in london is different parts of world. You don't have. The luxury of having often do in other parts of world will give been the fact that we had lockdown europe relaxed with regards to the iming and madonna came. I'm sure you have heard. Many people say that it was one of the best ramadan because was no rush in storrow travel. You can really enjoy your night pres- because there was nothing kind of you know am rush full. You know because people will wedding from on today was a blessing in disguise so before we move on On her to speaking about how to raise a half because that was one of the topics we're going to talk about. I guess one of the last thing that we can kind of say to people. Is you know if you are challenges. You were having challenges that quite major that you feel really needed resolving then. There's no shame there's no home in seeking help from marital counselors right therapist to someone income. I personally feel very strongly about. Because i have seen over the is many sisters because obviously my work with sisters women have Come to me thinking that the marriage is over. And then when i was listing and king the marinas marriages not main issue. Like i said in the previous cost other. That's going on in in in the sisters life and must address those issues and the believe on our conversation. I was able to identify the sista winner. The engine was coming from and the hunter la sometime palmer. The marriage the problem but actually there are other factors that's cooling straining relationship when you know when they give us some examples. Could you give us some examples of okay phrase things. A husband is going through a shot at work though is making him very irritated. The sister is thinking the wiser with irritate. You know he seems always very annoyed very angry. Have i done something. Of course men into women you know and he may feel locate. Doesn't wanna beden with these troubles at work. So he may not speak to her about the he may just we draw and that make you feel. He's not showing any fiction. He's not he's not he's just going to do a thing. But if you really think about it you know if you want to speak to the man separately and say okay. What's going and you would say. You know that you know who's going through financial Doesn't what he feels like. You know able to provide for the family and that is putting on a stress. He's giving him with wilson though. You know he's going threes own issues. It's got nothing to do with the marriage. He's actually worried for the family but the system take the wrong end of the stick. Not and are we going to resolve this by communicating and understanding. Okay where are we coming from you know. And that's why not a husband wife described as liebus why because we are there for covering and protecting comforting each other. You know just trying to understand okay. What's going on. Why is he like to address issues at the situation. Where maybe you you'd find that you know like putin going through some kind of a troubling episode life and that may take the mother away from you know the father because she's really stressed so external factors put a lot of strain in the relationship and for us to evaluate. What's going on in my life no matter. The pandemic has an impact on the relationship. But always trying to think and stan what's happening in the relationship. What's in the family home on time. Seem family home and have such a huge impact. People emotional grieving. The going through trauma of course is going to. Have you know the relationship so we have to be my love. Paint is ill health. Many people fell. Ill has impact on the relationship. That has an impact on the on the home. Who's gonna who's going to clean. You know who's going to do the tools that you know was on all the time but it kind of creates new dynamic new new challenge for the family and of course is going to you know if into the relationship. What i'm saying. Is that whenever you feel like. Oh my marriage is working. Don't just think it's the relationship. Think about the tunnel factors is that are causing in your relationship and try to address them and i too always always seek help. 'cause you might be surprised. Phone call with account gla. You know a a device from a scholar fixed. The problem may help identify what the problem is. Because sometimes when you're in the problem is very hot. See shoe is but when you speak to somebody. They didn't immediately say you know what i think. You are actually quite stressed. And when you're stressed some everything's Seems too much because you know honoring late. I think people feel afraid. Don't they to make that take that first step to reaching out to a counselor but s- apollo one of the things that you know you realize when you work with people is the actually you know when it comes to the services that are out there. There are different types. Obviously that is marriage. Counseling therapy is also a mediation that scholars islamic scholars provide right and muslim counselors. As well so i think weather it's muslim or non muslim counselors. A one of the things people can be reassured with the very discreet. You know i that lot of families probably think in nobody. Nobody's having these problems. Sat me right But believe believe me those counselors. They've heard everything in know. There's nothing that you'll going to be telling them that they're gonna be surprised with the goal of experience of the time so it's definitely a new worth exploring because you know one of the things i think he's that look Before you're going to a any kind of big decision or you're going to kind of Even think about something. Negative within your marriage what you wanna do. Is you wanna try to you. Know exhaust all the different avenues. That there are In trying to fix things right in trying to make things better a that can be introspection your own an analysis etc but it can also take the form of mediation you know in a very discreet way. No need for about neighborhood to no known if anyone to know actually accept those people who are trying to help you But you know this is actually a some nine to send the koran. The you know if things get to a very very serious stage then the woman should bring somebody from outside. The man should bring someone from his side and they can have some kind of mediation right. That's one way to do it. So i think in the muslim community winning to get away from feeling that. There's any kind of tabu in seeking help. Because i'd roll over. People were seeking help riot and sometimes that might mean sharing some uncomfortable stuff with a third party. But i've raw the you sought help and you resolve issues as were good. Strong family stronger family. After that. then you made some kind of big decision and the late to realize that. Actually i didn't really do my best. you know. i didn't do my best to fix that situation right. That will be worse right. Lean just finding the ad also. Is that the people who are in the family and the community. We'd be winning. You know system we conciliation if they approached because sometime like to go those who they know and if they come to you you know you should go you know. Let me try and help. Even if he means just listening to book side of the stories. But we shouldn't shy away from okay to reconciling. because there's a lot of rewards in that. Definitely you know pamela. So let's make a marriage is strong. Make families strong because family is the bedrock of the community. Right and sisters of my message to sisters outlet especially is take care of yourselves. You know a lot of the time. It's because sisters. We don't take care of ourselves we don't Take care of our needs we we. We paved like maters in the family. And then you know we can play right. The point is you gotta take care of yourself. You know what your needs are and create the structures and the habits and the structure around you. That helps you to be the best the best you that you can be Tell how are we going to move on to talk about raising a half right raising a half it so i know that you have masha. Llah you have a son who has memorized the koran. I have a son. He's never is the koran. Technically have three years and one of them has completed his hip. So i just wanted to ask you about jenny. What made you want to raise a half. Why should our viewers listeners out. There think all raising the children upon this off course on a lot of my now in anshan make my son a half. It started when i was in egypt. When i saw how cool they memorized the koran. And how that trended. Many muslim countries for the young children. We should the koran. Being courage to my risa koran. And i remember when i was studying a in egypt ice to my son behind my husband and there was a channel by mitchell. Raunchy vesey could fast general and i would notice. He was only one and a half years of age. You would read. The gravity. was that channel and the She'd and staging the am i myself. It would be really good. He can become a half. And of course the thought we know where if the recite of the koran you know Besides and he implements than the parents of that resides. How is going to be a awarded with a crown of light and the headline was very much in my mind. When i was talking about putting my son was you know being a half income. Initially i caught myself like many of us illeana very either way that. When he's you know a toddler when his primary school years will go in each annual. Memorize the koran. Of course things can happen in an ideal fashion so i had to just make start in. Uk and equal the opportunities that were available few helped me in the janney. Make encouraging was of Yes upon a love second secondhand for sharing that. Yeah i think for me. It was similar in the sense that Ever since i was a teenager i was listening to talks. You know by you'll be like Talking about the virtues of heaven. And so i knew what i had a son when i had a child and child who would be whether it would have been a or son. I think i would have had the same approach but i happen to have a son. I realized that it was such a huge opportunity. You know having this child from birth potential. And i was trying to think of all the things that may be. I wish i'd done right. I'm not saying that you. I'm not advocating that. You know we we put onto our children all the dreams that we've had. That's not what i mean. What i mean is the certain. This certain strengths. That children out right now. They only have for a temporary amount of time. I mean obviously you can do even when you're old right young or old however nobody can deny right. There's something special about being young and memorizing being young and learning language. Even right is completely different to you. Know when you get pasta. Certain age. So i think part of it was just realizing that you know this little toddler. He can memorize anything so easily in how. I really needed to make the most of those us new teaching the child. Koran in alias the flag having on stone later on is like coughing on san of course. There's a lot of opportunities to actually utilize wendell young. I actually i was away in egypt. I myself worries paying attention. This channel news liking resignation of unanimity. So juice some of the you know Set the cd's by becoming rachi and actually the first Was that i am introduced was just unlike many people do it was by michelle. Roth is defined. That he was picking up you know and it was just an so informally you know. When he was five. I used to just put it on before going sleep than i would shoot soda and before i knew he was picking things up and i remember when he was six years of age he completed on my end. I remember being a party for him and his friends. And that's when. I realized actually dana. What he and do it. 'cause win called chiefs one this you realize okay the potential and then you have you on the next jews and then the next just as you progress in the journey. Let's get quite often is. There's a little sweat on a struggle is but it's worth it definitely. Am i think for me. I even started before birth because i was memorizing sort of bukhara. The time when i was expecting. And i don't know i just felt like the more i recited the battery would be for my unborn child in a apart from the buttocks you know. I don't know i've read about you. Know how when the mother sings when she makes any kind of sound baby absolves that so i started from ben i would say and Yeah that's interesting. Because i think people don't realize parenting actually starting pregnancy. What you do. I'd messy really has an impact on your child. That's a you know. Good be born and that. This reminded me that before i was born. I was actually to lots of Classes and read myself. I was he must in you know And it was a natural progression when he was seeking okay humble. I've been teaching of the sisters. Now it's my time to focus on my own. Son does not like junior on because you know that every time he recites how on us or with ya. You know a woman that you each schoon lobby one of. You'll ask claudia in it even book and i think just especially as mark right you know first of all obviously as the mother is really important that we know how to recycle an right and can learn ted. We've properly because obviously the way we recite is going to affect the way our child precise but once we do have that generally basic decent knowledge of recitation. I would say especially among believe me. It's quite easy for child to pick that up even in the call. If you've just. I'm playing all the time right or even when playing in the morning i remember Thing in the morning while my this is before he could speak by the way i would be he would be playing and i would have just amount in the background now. When i was putting him to sleep i would recite you. Know sorta Slowly through go through the whole kind of the whole judges. And so what i felt was when he was old enough to actually memorize like be able to recite is almost as if he already knew. It sounds really strange because all those early totally yet he'd been hearing it so much it wasn't such a big struggle for him to actually say it once it recited once on t. Could of course the sound that they here they get familiar with. I think we underestimate. How much Up from listening to the sounds and I mean we have a nasty and see how who wouldn't h two to three years of age they listen to a nursery rhyme and they would pick up the slack. Bet imagine short sudas likes class huda nights. Just pick it up. Because the signed by eliza would be able to run and i should like hardwired to memorize so scores. Of course man. I look at some of the you know student in from non listen communist. The that i'm learning piano lay would is different. You know for the sense you know. It doesn't if you think about it you know. It doesn't have much fighter. They up schnitt about about us upon a learning how to read site in goran cintas give you bought a in this life. Barak in the octa life is infinite. Determines your station in the afterlife. Why would we you know Energy in that time and money and the reason why say money. Because i'm you know you have spent a lot of money in. We shouldn't in causes because you need to outsource and that's that's a you know well spent in the way of a leads original the her. I've i've i'm writing at the moment about raising a half right. Got six six kind of points That i'm going to highlight. The article is like a framework six points. I'm chevaux six points with you. And i wanna know what your thoughts out when i say six points. Okay tell and tell me what your experiences all with those so number one is vivid vision vivid vision. And what i meant by. That is what i mean by that. Is that somebody in the family. Especially one of the parents especially has got to have that kind of very clear vision that we want to do this and we want to take it right till the end you know. In order for the have to be successful. What would you say to that. Absolutely become this goes without saying without division vision yukon really achieve your goal of Making your child half you know having that in that nia long division is very important. Why'd you and you become an avid. And of course we know a lot of becca comes about. Because of your near the warsi intention of mubarak a youth in the pursuit of achieving gold. Though yes definitely having the vision. I think vision is more powerful if it's from a mother because find in history you know when we look at mothers like a mother of imam bahati. She had that she had that for. Didn't sound one push. My son was on a ship so she was doing everything within her means was a single mother or i think We you know. We underestimate the version of a mother in particular. Having that kind of focus on the other day we were talking about the journey and it is known that many half become happy because of the vision of their mothers Yes just like a fair and also just that person also has to have in their mind. The whole div about how you know the my head of the one who is an expert in reciting koran memorizing koran will be with the angels on the day of judgment somebody has to have that vision in their mind in order to carry it through specially through the hard times right so that's the first one. The second one is firm foundation. Right and what. I meant by phone foundation. Is i feel that although it's great to like get children to memorize okay. I think it's really important when this slightly older will old enough to along with that memorization. Okay of the last juice for example if you're gonna start with the less with the last year's also accompany with the foam foundation of being able to read her big properly and also. I know that this might sound extra but to also study arabic as the language on. What your thoughts on finale. I think come again. You see it that we live in. You know some families who are from southeast that chronic chinese background would encourage the children learn mandarin some like a front they would encourage the two hundred nine and similarly for the muslim community one of the language that we should encourage you learn is arabic and the this many opportunities for them learn the arabic language. Know we have madrid. Says we have institution we have online institution so yes hannity even the start because when middle growing up. Maybe we didn't have. Those facilities in appearance may not have had the similar exposure to in facilities. Like we need do on hundred lot so yes definitely encouraging arabic language and also i think the the other reason why emphasized that as as a phone foundation is the number one. It's actually helps to keep a child today. It okay because the more they can actually understand as they get older the more kind of it means something to them right the koran and the woods the memorizing but the other thing is it will just make the whole process easy up because at some point you don't want to be the one who is constantly sitting with them getting them to memorize right you want them to have a little bit of independence as soon as possible in times of being able to read being able to read fluently and also i think one of the things i consider to be a firm foundation is that we should get out children along with the health to read the koran beginning to end. At least once you know during ed childhoods because the festival the daca from that you know the fact that every letter is rewarded but also because having completed the entire koran you know they will be excellent at reciting and reading shall so know. I think that would make a firm foundation. The third point is disciplined action. So obviously you know didn't hit takes discipline. It's like a daily weekly monthly unique to have goals unions have some kind of system right some teacher who can manage that system in place. I think i'm in is very important. The having goods Shen may not be fun things to do but the Only comes about when you be something over again and again and simply not to have that in your and i think i think the other thing that i mean by that is you know like sometimes we think when we first when we face the first obstacle we think. Oh we can't carry on but the point is not that you're not gonna face obstacles. You will face obstacles but the point is can you even once you face obstacles. Pick yourself up and keep going in maybe change your strategy but you just have to keep going in a disciplined manner that daily action in that you know. I'm on that note. I would say mothers would play a role like a coach. You might find. Your child will stumble and phil plated. Because these been could with certain passages mothers have to be an. I know it's not easy to do because of the myself you know. It's easy to get australia disease to news. You're cool but you have to remember by. Doing that is not going to really help a child in you might even put the child off. You have to be that kind of ho choose motivating push that you put the shot of the edge motivating but encouraging and having the if you can do it. Come on wake coaches inspire and motivate the athletes. You know they had to push the athlete. They reach their potential but not too much that they drink the athlete. Though we have to play a role leka massey. Full cope with our. Because you are. You're basically you want them to succeed. So you have to be mindful of the comments and that will you speak them. It's gonna make them will break them yet. So you've covered the next point which is For me maintain motivation so you gotta find ways to maintain the motivation over that period of time. Right where the three parties just celebrating it. You know celebrating each milestone right And actually having those one to one talks with your child about why we're doing this. What the benefits are going to be in how one day. They're going to look back and be so glad that they did it. Right and the lost two points. All integration okay integration and lifelong revision. So what i mean by integration. Is you know once that memorizing koran. It's really important because obviously memorize of koran alone is not going to be somebody who's not necessarily going to go to genoa right. The koran wasn't just sent for us to memorize miserable us to integrate into our lives right. Yeah yeah and so what i meant by integration. Is doing things like for example. Actually studying the koran with them the stories in the koran pointing out like when they're memorizing particular sewer actually the lessons. You know the benefits from by what's on words mean and you know so so that they can then internalize an integrate what they memorizing into their personality. I couldn't agree with you more here. Because i remember there were times when things were going to be slow is do just breaking some explanation meaningless storytelling in the passages of the koran as is memorizing. What this means. If i was aware of the tuxedo i will just go into explanation. And it was just like a nice break from the hip but just look at the meaning behind what he's memorizing. And when you do that you kind of is you love life behind. The i add memorizing will revising. So yeah you have to. You know at the time know what. The meaning of reciting is an hunger. Todd has foundation of arabic. Language helps. Who understand what is he actually memorizing not only understand it memorize such an eye at because he knows okay on reciting and he's sneaking sense because he's trying to translate in his mind everything you mentioned it actually complements the whole journey all memorizing and learning koran and finitely understanding the stories and that you know meaning of what allies say the examples the arabs in the on this power was amazing is cost the parables because then you know it's not just not you know there's more than what you are learning finnity. You have to take the time up because on line of study of the koran is like an ocean the more deeply go the more gems you pick out you know and i think it's nice to experience that we'd go out these beautiful gems so so. My last point was lifelong revision onto ask you fell. Hi like how do you hope now. Now that your son has members on. What do you plan. How do you hope to maintain that kind of 'cause obviously memorizing koran is hot where it kind of takes challenge to get them through that initial memorization right and revision the The first time they memorize it and revise it. But then obviously there's a whole lifetime right of Of keeping the koran. So what do you think you'll be doing. What are some of the practices you put into place that will help your son with that. One of the thing that we try to promote home is the importance of having like a companion means a re revising the koran regularly ill basis and having that you know on like a friend guides you and you know advisors you through the phases of life so moraleja for a half is a lifelong commitment. The metal what his day with as being married working happening has to he has committed to that. You know a book therefore has to protect in order to be by the book. That relationship is just one until visited grain. I often to have the importance of being the you know Equal of koran. Because did a special type of people that i was asking the other day. You know what made you obesity. As parents we push them was a hip tune have one to land themselves otherwise. It's not going to happen because different individual and they have to make the decision as well they want to memorize. Otherwise you're just you know an annual head against a wall in half to be compliant too that as well they have to comply. So you're saying that the that may deem to learn the koran was that you know the saying that amongst man under a special type of people and The companyas who are the young sooner la slows them in the process said they are. I don't and they're the people of koran. They had special ed of people because they are the people of allies though. I was one of his motivation. The want to know and learn and become a half it. I think if we remind our sons that you know in order for you to be. Vip you have to eat. The moraga have to continue with the revision because vision is not. You know the exciting as learning. You know a sort of the first times lure. Excitement revision is a essential partial. He yeah he's maintenance maintenance problem of sexual harassment so at the love the points that i mentioned number one vivid vision number two farm foundation just mentally because i noticed as off jolla and brothers writing these down number three disciplined action number four integration integrating the on your personality number five maintaining motivation throughout his journey and a number six lifelong revision. So those are my kind of six Let's say six. Point framework will raising a half of and i hope in shaw that that motivates parents out that because even the parents of a half are going to be honored on the day of judgement right show. Of course please allow me. I just want you mentioned some Tips because when i was going through the tiny of hip with my son i really appreciated learning from different sisters different family members. What are the steps so that i can also follow these steps. Though someone who i would say is a husky la make this journey easy for you to apparent is something pannella is so powerful. You want your child to become a half us to make the journey easy for you and help you accomplish this journey. Accomplish this goal for you also Have a connection with on yourself because chow who is trying to memorize. Would like you would it. Inspiration from his parents feces. His parents are connected to the koran. Motivate team to be connected with the koran fake. Whatever means available to you. It could be that you have a you know a madrassa nearby in democracy you able to home school and you're able to give that one wants your child with it could be that you have online facilities. You have a very good teacher. Online ache that facilities and don't okay. This is set in stone as the child moves. You know at the you know maybe unity app adjust and that's fine because whatever works with the present moment go with. I don't think that okay. i'm just going to have on my husband six months. What about the off to his. Don't worry about the time often make each step. The comes in routine is very important is going to be morning. Is your child morning person than invest in the morning. Then if you find your child in a work expecting the off noon or evening then go with that. Of course many children they learn better in the morning because warning is very You know a lot little barak highs in the morning but maybe charges different or slightly. More inclined was working in the often vets. Okay space for the koran. It's very very important. Even to this day. When i reflect how he he he revises in his room sitting down. So it's very important that you create that specific space for your call to memorize. They say that if the space is allocated than either for the child charter be focusing concentrator. Not get strep it with. I would say your child must have as passed to his Himself but he memorize and revised from one tough change though that going to help him and ate him i agree and also you can't look for the perfect solution all the time right so like when we started here i was like oh i wish there was this. Puffing must've with the perfect teacher and everything right but the point is that we were in north west london. A hard to find any teacher at all. I got my son to memorize us. I'm on that was fine but beyond that. I really wanted to be a teacher. Because i knew that this dynamic isn't there cooling tween i think also having a kloss having boys specially like together having a sense of Cameraderie and you know that this supporting one another. I should've added to is that on unkind. When when a child is put into a group of who who are memorizing can actually increase the motivation level. No need that. And give them a competitiveness. That is so healthy because they realize okay. This child has exceeded me. I need to catch up with that tom. Yes that can be very healthy. Competition collazo He's mentioned some yet the nfl snafu soon. You know that. Live in a good to phonetically rive with level of competition and we should encourage the in iran and in arabic studies because healthy competition will help them. Thrive achieve been a class full of the who tried to do the same thing. Definitely i think the thing to bear in mind is look this. Isn't you know. Sometimes people see people members and it's just like a parrot money right but actually actually if we bear in. Mind this that you know. When a child memorizing the koran the visit the becomes part of the flesh the koran becomes a part of them and the the one who memorize is an recites koran is not likely the one who doesn't you know not kill and the home in which for an is recited is not like the home in which it's not recited right so i think it's really important to bear that in mind because i think just to mention this the probably the most powerful motivation for me in getting children to memorize on. Was you know as a mother. You look around. You feel afraid. Don't you about this well right that your your children are going to be living. In the chil- children going to be raised. There are all sorts of negative stories. All the time about how children go astray. Get into trouble. Get into all sorts of things. And so i think as a mom i just felt like the one best thing probably the best thing i could do was to make sure that my children had koran in them from a young age because that would serve as a type of protection for them as well right. Yeah so pamela. So i hope we've motivated loans and dads out man. It's not easy it's not easy. It's worthwhile nothing in line is doesn't require at it does get you know as time goes by i would say i don't want to put anyone off but what i mean by. It's not easy. Is that look. They're all going to be times when your child will be like well. We'll the other kids just playing right. We'll the other kids just watching telly. You whatever right but you know what that is exactly why you need to do it because you're training your child to know the actually they're doing something that's more worthwhile right then. You know people just wasting their time. Cetera that not affect one thing. I i because i have noticed amongst my other fence whose half it though half of that is to give your child level of normality meaning though for a half each child to be having fun is okay for a half child to be wearing. Nice clothes. Trendy clothes you know. Not you know stimulate okay. They're going to be like a mini. Minimal liners and they out. Because i have not is that on time. People have the stereotypical idea. Okay oh he's a half. Then how come. He's you know a heaviest life is so how come he's you know wearing nice clothes half dozen. He's into football. He's into you know like a avenue. He's in a jetson things you know yes snap doesn't mean that you know you can have the interest as when so definitely has to kind of protect them. From having stereotypical idea that a half it is only going to be in a certain way. You have half six and forms and he's okay because out be you know who. He is authentic so at the stadium of fighting. That's very important for us this to her nose may have other interests any so k. To nurture those other interest as well. Because i think when people when people go to extremes. Isn't it that then. Trouble takes place. Because sometimes i have noticed or had noticed one looking at other family sometimes. there was this tendenc- in some of our generation to try to make our children to some sort of robots. Like make them so now. It's like you know then allowed to utter a word that is allowed to see anything that could be. you know. I know you know not the perfect image of muslim almost would see etc etc etc. You know and then allowed to mix with some types of children. It shouldn't be like that if you do that. You create you you a monster around. Did human being you have to be mindful that any woman extremism. It's not an you can maintain. Its long what we strive for. And that's new in sustainable flom each. Is you know the events to win. In fact in fact the balanced way. In fact i would go so far as to say the children who are doing health we should give them even move right to enjoy themselves with the hello right. They have even more right to do that right. So you know if you know that saying work hard. Play hard right. We should allow them. If they're working hard you're working hard. You're working towards this noble goal when it comes to hal things you can also enjoy that fully We should prevent them from feeling that they've had a real childhood hud. Fantasy football like one of the things is to do. Buy tickets to visit football stadiums. Mike it's just do a tool of their favorite bull stadium right things like that you know. Just let them have other interests of. We have to be mindful of certain with this time for this on the time for that in that she will create the balance will be shot. And the realize okay. My life is not best or stein. A variety makes life more interesting live and more enjoyable. And that's where they can. Actually i need you know understanding also so that when as they grow older you know they do have a healthy lifestyle as well because one of the problems of our times isn't it is a sedentary lifestyle and when you are a student or you're a scholar or a half a you have to sit down quite a aside from that you need to have physical exercise you need to have other interests the mental kind of intellectual pursuits right to keep you rounded well rounded and developed realistically right one more thing that i would like to add is that you know There might even be times during the hicfa journey that you should take a break. And i know that people like they would like the idea of like taking a break you. You'll feel afraid that okay. Well if you end stopping right but look A you know your child the best right and when he see that your child is going through something they going through some kind of period where maybe they need a break even if it's a break of day or if it's a break of a few days you know i think it's better to take a break an on rather than you know ending up giving up right one day so so i think it's really important to know. What is this the right time for me to be kind of a tough coach. You know if he keeps pushing them through or is this a time for me to actually back off a little bit. You know because again. We're not trying to force out children not trying to like you know. Control the lines or anything like that. It's this is about a coaching them encouraging them. I'm pushing them. But you know in a balanced way through this period where the is going to be. Intense again dislike coach. You've got to know when to push and went to kind of you know. Allow them to recover a little bit. agreed nothing. I ensure la. I hope people who. Ah waste to sue in their children's life in charlotte. Obviously the the points that you made off all could be applicable to authorities as well as out songs Well on the half. Thank you so much for. Sure your thoughts with us and your advice and in charlotte. I'm going to wrap up now. A brothers and sisters do shed this episode with somebody who you think will benefit in shalah. Do you like the video. And you could always subscribe to a channel as as subscribing to our podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts. So once again the gonna say salaam t and we're going to end up going to bid our viewers and listeners. Farewell that izzak allow hereon salama. Allie kamara law. You about a cattle soup panic. Alaba moby hamdi gash to la la atlanta a stuffy tube-like saddam waco get down labor.

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What Jalen Green's Announcement Means for the NBA

Warriors Off-Court

35:20 min | 1 year ago

What Jalen Green's Announcement Means for the NBA

"Nba Season is suspended indefinitely because of the corona virus pandemic. But where's off? Court is still going. I'm Kinda turn out. And even though I'm sheltering in place in my apartment in Alameda I'm still bringing you the news about the warriors and the NBA. How players like Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are handling the shutdown? How the corona virus crisis will change the team's plans and how basketball can get back to normal. It's all here on warriors off court which can be found on your favorite podcast APP on today's episode of wears off court. I'm joined by Kevin Danna the longtime play by play announcer for the Santa Cruz. Warriors to discuss Thursday's news that top recruit Jalen Green will forgo college to join a reshaped. Nba Professional Pathway Program. That's partnering with the G. League. During our conversation we went in depth. On how this program could change draft evaluation for that matter college recruiting as we know. Kevin. Thank you so much for joining me on the PODCAST As you know as our listeners know at this point you're my Go-to guy for everything. G leak and the G. League is come up quite a lot. This season The warriors lead very heavily on Santa Cruz. A lot of pertinent storylines going on down there and today there was G. League related news. That could have a massive impact on not only the NBA. Not only the G. League but recruiting in general NC double a. Other Professional Leagues Overseas Kevin what when you heard that. Jalen green the top her crew in the twenty twenty class projected number one pick and the twenty twenty one drafts. We're GONNA go to the G. League enjoying this new player development program through the G. League. What were your initial thoughts? The phrase Kinda came to me initially was. It's a monumental moment for this week now. Kind of last year rebellious seat said he was GonNa go play in the of course. Step that internship with like a million dollars. I believe in the hotel for him in personnel to with Oklahoma City. But this is kind of fun. Tears that G Week. I think was hoping to cross the news. Juicer that was really kinda legitimize. It is people who don't work. Let's you and I think people recognize its value in order to kind of legitimize to the public's things I think need to happen. One of them was j all Stars. Doing Rehab assignment. Injury Games nachos practice was very proud. Steam with Golden Sakes definitely. Santa Cruz is the next step would be for that. All starts playing a game and then the other one was get these five star top five ish crew out of high school to play in. Cuba for a season I was going to get. That was Bazeley last year. Reseda and green this year and now they're reports with US guys. Ahah taught his name as you might be part of this then. There's other names that those things could be part of this news nearly this new G. League affiliated team kind of not exactly a G. League team for salesforce for a title but It's its own. It might not change. They live for Jiri players and coaches. Who aren't affiliated with this exposure. That can get as a result. I mean it's there to serve and this is a seuss. Things kind of better develop process or further ten days mission statement of developing young talent losers. I Give Adam Silver Truth. Guru Sri who's Busy the president. Did she leave? He's the yeah. The president's really former CAL guy A lot of credit for how they went about this because They they basically saw that there was a need and they needed to fix it You know the fact that guys like Lamelo Ball and RJ Hampton. Were traveling all the way across the world to play in the Australian League for one season before going to the NBA. Just doesn't really reflect well on the developmental system that the NBA was trying to build in the G. League. And and I think the problem was even though they have good intentions last year when they initially unveiled this pro pathway And I think that you know there was a good idea there with this guy's making one hundred twenty five thousand dollars and things like that. I think they realized pretty quickly that they needed to do. Much more to entice these high level guys because these guys have a lot of options they could They could go to one of many different professional leagues overseas. They could go to the Blue Book. Blood College programs or they could just sit at home and sign endorsement deals and and wait until drafty and those are all honestly viable options for for someone like that and I think the problem with the last model of this pathway was that you know there were a the money probably wasn't good enough one hundred twenty five is not near. We'll guys were getting paid in Australia and some other overseas leagues. The other thing is that I think there were a lot of concerns from these players and their families about being thrown into some random. You know small market small town type team where you're living on your own and say Sioux Falls South Dakota or Or Stockton California or something like that. And you're you're forced to be an adult right away and go up against high level basketball players who might not have the greatest reputation because they're not in the NBA. But you and I both know having been around this league that a lot of these guys who are in the G. League or guys who just as good as you know a quarter of the guys currently in the NBA. So if they're not if they're not holding their own against these guys physically. Maybe they're not ready. I think a lot of Outsiders might look at that and think it reflects really poorly or they're not live up to the hype given just the reputation of the G. League so I think there were. There were a lot of understandable trepidation and that's ultimately why Bazeley backed out into Paul his agent Convinced him not to go forward with that plan. So I give I give Sirri Fedora. Hime and Adam Silvera a ton of credit and looking at what do these guys want? And what do we need to do to make this a viable option? Yeah No I. I agree with that assessment. One hundred percent because yeah. It's one thing you know playing playing against you know top five recruits from Kentucky. Who could project to be very good players or they could project to be is a play two to three years in the NBA and then playing against say like a thirty three zero point guard. Jeremy Cargo who we know has NBA level down these Chaudhry Golden State this year. There's a spot full time for him. Going up against a guy like that who was in his prime. Just a little bit task describes. Who's playing at a very high rebel? I mean those kind of guys. Those veteran guard soon veteran players could expose eighteen to nineteen year old so I think yeah. I think how they have kind of set. This up is well. Maybe it's not like Helix leksand's perspective for for those who do you follow the G. League Rather regularly like all right probably wish you could see them. Play Fifty Games a season again and be like monitoring for like a local market but it doesn't necessarily make sense. These high school kids to do it like that for the reasons you mentioned so I was reading some. Espn article looks like maybe ten. To Twelve Game Attrition Thousands League team and you play against the International Academies or other national team from from what I read I I. I think that's a really nice setup for these guys and do something a little bit different to make sure that you're getting these guys here in the first place the money I know they're i. I read one report that Sam. Mitchell is a candidate to be a coach for for this team. I mean we'll see if that happened but still like a coach like that entering the eighteen nineteen year old. It makes them with veterans and I. I think it's a great setup For the top high school process are GONNA be one year out of the secondary. Yeah there's still a lot of questions. But if let's say they can get five six high level recruits Put Him on this team. Jalen which seems realistic given The top level guys who have yet to commit anywhere Guys like High Soto On makers younger brother you know these are guys who would make a Lotta sense. Obviously todd that you mentioned earlier would make a lot of sense to go this route if you can put those guys on the team. Jalen and then round out that roster with kind of the Jeremy Part of the world with those guys who are well aware that you know. They're in being ambitions are probably over but they have some NBA experience and they have some high level Extended professional experience. Those guys can come in and mentor. You know these these future potential stars in the NBA on a daily basis to me. That sounds like an amazing opportunity for everyone involved. I know talking to someone like Jeremy. He seems like the type of guy that would really enjoy that type of opportunity. You know to cause a lot of these guys who been through the ups and downs. They WANNA get back. You know they wanna they wanNA help bring along that next generation. I think a lot of these guys would be really Excited about that kind of opportunity. And there's also those guys out there who maybe know still feel like they want an opportunity in the NBA or want some bigger professional opportunities and there's going to be so many scouts and so much attention on this team. You know not only. Are they going to be at every game or exhibition that that this team plays? But I'm sure there's GonNa be open practices and a Lotta things like that and so you know this is GonNa be Assad after team in a lot of ways and from what we're hearing is probably going to be based on La we've seen his not Hidalgo Texas. It's not Stockton it's not too old. It's not Irri Pennsylvania so To me this if I'm someone like lingering if I'm someone like cassette or a five star guy with definite lottery potential there is minimal downside to this past. I mean I know it's new and and so there's always some risk involved with anything that's new but three of our team and silver. I've done such a good job of eliminating every concern. These guys could possibly have. Yeah that's a good point. I the the one thing I answered. Now we're talking about how it deposits for veterans. Who WOULD BE HONEST? I am curious as to like the hypotheticals that is attracted to US offer of we end up playing with Jalen Greens and So saying makers potentially world is. Is it going to be a guy like Jeremy Parker who was thirty three and you know thinking about a potentially your wife after basketball coach or something? Is it going to be twenty four twenty five year old guys who are looking for their first shot in the NBA has their best arts? Twenty six twenty seven year old guys to move past years experience? They see it as a as route back to the NBA. And I'm like how much veterans with get paid. 'cause all right they're saying five hundred thousand dollars for these eighteen nineteen year old kids. Now you're GonNa have a you know a thirty year old or twenty six year old seeking standard Jewish contract thirty five thousand dollars without an MBA. Ason I I think that's part is GonNa be really wants us to see how that plays out because you out there aren't going to be a lot of is on their games that they're gonNA be playing sooner games and so. I think that's an interesting straight off that betters. We'll have to live. Yeah you bring up a really interesting point but you know one of the things that I definitely thought about when you know. They initially announced this pro pathway last year and obviously didn't get really much. Traction was just the locker room dynamics and the G. League the just delete environment is a fascinating environment It's part of why I love writing about it. there's so many Different personalities people who have different types of stories and a lot of a lot of guys you know in the G. League or are striving to make it to the NBA and that can mean that they want. They want shots. They want minutes. You know and I think that's the hardest part about being a coach and the G. League is learning. How is figuring out how to have some sort of roster and encore cohesion when you have all these guys trying to get numbers up to make it to the League and It would have been fascinating and potentially disastrous. I think to have a eighteen year. Old Kid who's never played professional basketball. Go Into G. League Oscar Room with guys who've been fighting inclined just for an opportunity to be seen by NBA Scouts and be making exponentially more than them And potentially be taken away minutes from guys who are two guys or or trying to land in. Nba contract That would be. I think that'd be tough. The thing about this situation and this pro. Pathway is that whoever ends up what whoever ends up going to. This team is not a recruit you know if we keep bringing up. Jeremy pocket but those types of guys who ended up deciding to go to this team. They're gonNA know what the situation is before they go there so they're gonNA signing on in a green to it knowing that. Jalen green is making way more money than they will be making And so there. I think that that that can help. Mitigate potential issues Because everyone involved knows the situation whereas if there is basically ended up going to the G. League whatever team he ends up on a lot of those guys didn't necessarily sign up to be playing with areas basically so they basically shows and it's like over like you know I'm actually even better than you and you're making five times what I'm making. That's really not cool. There's no doubt about that that's true. I guess I'm too like who are the kinds of veterans that like sign up for this like how how many how many veterans would be interested in an opportunity. Like this as like they're gonNA need if they get five or six players Like from you know the class of twenty twenty. They'RE GONNA be. You know four to five veterans like. Is there going to be a line out the door of these kind of veteran players or is it going to be a much smaller pool? I I'm just curious to see like kind of how that breaks down more of my conversation with Kevin Danna right after the break. Hey Audrey Cooper here editor in chief of the San Francisco Chronicle and we've ramped up the news coming at you from fifth emission except not the physical that the mission since we're all working at home the fifth and mission. That is our flagship news. Podcast were interviewing anyone with anything to say about the corona virus so that you have the latest information as soon as we know it so check it out the mission wherever you get your podcast. One thing that's interesting is how this whole thing kind of came together Normally when you have A major announcement like this you would you would just you know. Have a big press release. Maybe have a news conference. I know that would be tough given the current state of things. But you could do it on zoom or what have you You would have something to to to to get out in front of it. But what happened was Jalen green announces that he's going to the G. League. He says that he's going to this. This this player at this Pro Pathway thing and when he said it you know I I've written extensively a big feature on Jalen recently. I've spent time with him. I was even confused by what exactly that. Man. I'm thinking. Is he going to a team? Is there is there? Is this something else like I know. I know that there was the pro pathway but the way he's announced it kind of made it sound like he wasn't going to an actual team that exists. Currently so I was confused and then shortly thereafter yes. Pin Drafts a report with full quotes from three from door. Game and other guys. You know that it already reported this detailing the intricacies of the situation so my understanding and this is just an assumption based off the series of the time on events is that G. League decided we need a guy who's GonNa be the face of this guy who can bring excitement to this in legitimize. This jailing green is the perfect player to be that guy because jalen green is one of the best high school prospects in the past decade. He is he's drawn comparisons to Lebron James to Kobe Bryant. I've watched all his highlights. I've spent time with them. I've seen him shoot. Seen him play he is a guy who I honestly think that help an NBA team. Right now And he is to me a sure thing and a lot of these other guys were talking about the cash sodas in the world. I have no idea if they're how if they're ready for even a G. League Environment Jalen Green will if he was playing just in a normal G. League schedule next season would be probably the best player in the G. League. I think he is a future. All Star that type of Guy So he is the perfect person to be the first and I think what happened was they recruited him. He said they said. Hey you gotta be the start of this new thing the face of this exciting new program. We got going and then you know what since we? We want to be as minimal to you as possible. So we'll let you have your little moment. Let you announce this you know on your instagram live. And and and and get it out there before we even released details this and Oh yeah by the way you know how everyone has been saying. We're only paying one hundred twenty five. Yeah we'RE GONNA three five hundred thousand dollars and you can also because you're going to be a real. You can start sending endorsement deals. It's already coming out that he's getting seven figure. Offers Shoe deals so You know how how is an eighteen year old? Can you turn that down? Yeah I mean what he could be. May I know? But that's seven figure shoe deal at three million dollars Messer. No yes and and that was a good point. You bring up house announcing on why he said. I'm doing the new something like I'm joining the new league team for the only thing right when he? Yeah when you check out I'm like wait has like at first. I was like he he's He's got something wrong about this. There is no nothing announce a new team outside of the team in Mexico City right there I hope the God who Jackson and then of course All all the stuff comes out. And I see the shops ron okay. All right that's what you're talking about and then it's like oh there's going to be inserted in California. The first thing I'm thinking about well they used to have this place. Where the Bakersfield Jam Player? They'RE GONNA play they're like Oh then it's in La. I'm like. What are they gonNA play? Where the Lakers old practice facility is like? I'm trying to think about the personalized and all that stuff. And then of course all that goes with windows. Ten to twelve exhibitions potentially. I'm not sure if all those details are official official yet but Yeah stuff's came about like the yeah. It was interesting to kind of get all this information in about forty five minute span. Where like someone like me? I had no idea that all this was Kinda the word I think they did their best to make this. You know exciting to make this year's Eve They tried to keep this a secret. The best they could but obviously this had to have been in the works for a while. I went to Napa three or so weeks ago. It's been an afternoon with Jalen and his parents and his sister and for a bigger than that bigger profile I talked about earlier and You know whenever right talk to him about his decision. He was very reserved. Not Not giving up a lot of details but talking to the people around him It sounded like what I was hearing was. He's probably not seriously considering going overseas. But you know when I when I say these people We'll Jalen said that he's there's the thing about going pro us. And in retrospect I'm really mad at myself for not connecting the dots there But the reason I didn't is because this was not considered a viable thing for players of jalen caliber until now Under the heaviest model. I don't think the G. League would made sense for someone like Jalen And so but but now it's like okay. Well he's not going overseas going pro so I guess you would. Have you know the obvious thing? And he he he He kinda he kinda tried to throw people off the past yesterday. He had a an instagram video. Where he's a big decision. Come in and you had the Memphis hat auburn sweatshirt and then. Nbl shirt not nothing and someone had actually gone back into his his instagram and found a picture of him in his apartment with Geely cat on the on the table and actually went out and circle the hat instead. Someone's photo shopping stuff into my pictures. And then when he made the announcement today he was wearing that hat Yeah I know I was talking with. David Resnick He's less veteran takes products. Asir Guy Friend of mine. He's like I didn't even know they made she leaked faster those you got a collector's item there but You know it was really interesting to see how that all played out any kind of like what you were saying. I mean the Guy Kinda get your back on this like even I who protested the G. League for eight years I but to say there are. I kinda got professional tactics because no one was on it and Oh okay. I guess this didn't work. Maybe it will work in the future like I literally think about it for for a good. Wow because if it wasn't us and so I think a lot of people could be forgiven for like not really thinking about that seelig often all that seriously L. WanNa take it out there for quite high. Yeah and you know I think that that had to be disappointing for the G. League and for for the NBA. And you know as a top league in in the world. That's not even debatable. And I think there was a little bit of embarrassment. When RJ Hampton Lamelo Ball went to Australia and and you know everyone's streaming their games online. That got a ton of attention. I'm sure out. Silver was privately steaming thinking it makes literally no sense that someone would need to go across the world to do this when we should have every thing in our disposal to create that opportunity for them stateside and you know spent eighteen year olds you know. Generally speaking they. They want to do with what they're comfortable with. And I'm sure the average eighteen year old between going down to La and and getting a nice apartment or House with their family for for a year As opposed to going to Australia or country where they don't speak English. I'm sure they'd much rather go. Yeah exactly and forgiven Greenwood. Was that a two three hour time. Fresno where he's originally from so yeah I mean it's even Even more convenient for for a guy like Jalen Green and from an NBA perspective. And this is one thing that I've been saying for a while. And then you know as you lead players tried to get higher salaries and there has been progress in that with The the salaries to thirty five thousand dollars. And hopefully that's an he needs to know if you're the MTA the bachelor world she wants to have all the best assets under your umbrella and so what. What's the way to do that? Is You know one thing is to raise the pay. Puff that up to five hundred thousand dollars for for the professional pass for this new team for the school guys in and Yeah you want to have the best prospects. Possible the best you know. That's not gonNA be Declared Street wants to help for them under your belt. Many of them as possible is so today was definitely a big step in the right direction. And I'll be honest with you. I'm I'm happy about this because I feel like Hollywood sports college basketball in particular has become such a mockery It's such a Sam. I mean you have especially with these one and done guys you have these these five star guys now a Lotta them as as has been reported now as FBI. Investigation revealed are getting money under the table and from different back channels. And you know what to go to school for a semester. You as you know being in college you can. You can fail. You can literally not go to class and also master and you can still survive that semester in fail out and then just move on and go prepare for the NBA. So the entire entire ideas these one and done has really in a lot of instances become a charade and it gets to a point where it's like if we're if we're just going to if we're gonNA just let's stop pretending that these guys are student athletes and let's call it what it is if you. WanNa go if your goal is to be in the NBA and you've proven and showing that you have the potential to do that can just go pursue in. Do in let's not let's not let's not playing games here you know and so. I I respect someone like Jalen coming out and saying I want to be a pro and I'm I want to do what's best for me and and I'm not gonNA pretend like I I wanna be going to classroom. I mean if I had to do the exact same thing. Yeah Yeah I hear people say oh. You can't put a price on the college experience. Well it's like well you're you're not gonNA make a million dollars is a twenty year old or whatever like you need to go to college. I. It's like college experience. I mean these guys are literally there for a semester. You know they. It's a lot of them. Don't even really have to go to class. Because they know that you know. They know what their future is. You Know Kevin. Love has openly said. He's like I guess I was technically accommodate. Ucla but I never went to class. It's like why would you? You know you knew you were going to be a lottery. Big Yeah Yeah. And it's like another thing is i. Don't think this is the death knell of college basketball if people are still going to want to cheer on their modern. There's still like a lot of really good players who need to you. Know who can't develop into prose until they're twenty two twenty three years old like I think I think in some respects call this vassals he better off not having You know be clear. Cut Pros In their system with you know you know but came along with with the FBI investigation and all that not to say that won't continue of course will but Yeah I think you know as someone who does look around five worked in college basketball for plenty years. That's GonNa be just fine. I wouldn't be worried if I was in J. Fan but at the same time. It's good that the top caliber guys can be pros eighteen year old. Don't have to deal with that kind of charade as you say for that is pretty small. Section here Actually the there's a lot more over top in the world and there are Jalen Greens and by that I mean guys who are late blooming guys who you don't start to look like NBA prospects until they're twenty twenty one twenty two years old So we're talking about free. Smoker for people in their rowdy is the NBA. The Geely are going to be discerning about who they give these contracts to They're not yet. Have some three star guy is like hey I wanna I wanNA do this there. I highly doubt the G. League is GONNA say hey. We're going to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in you and one more thing I just. I think the timing of this is interesting in that. Nba is losing tens of millions. Hundreds of millions of dollars potentially over a billion dollars. They don't play any more games this season. There's so many questions about About the corona virus. The fact that they're doing this right now just shows you how serious they are. I mean this is quite a major financial investment at a time when finances are a real concern. Yeah no that's a great point and it. Kinda shows the immediacy of this 'cause like well people think that the twenty to twenty twenty drafts he year where you can country High school like that's not gonNA be your even. Yeah like that could happen but it could also not happen so You know you wanNA cover your basis and Yeah no it is interesting to see the M J KINDA. Go all out with this right now. I mean I. I love someone who works in the G. League don't only GonNa make things You know put more give more exposures for everyone Yeah it's it's really good me like a real like obviously we can't predict any of this stuff and it's like all right cool. It can be a little more hope for next season. There is one all right. Maybe just maybe there's a better chance. Obviously we can't say that we're not helpless but they gave me more hope that there would be next season Someone like Jalen to go bank on there being the G. League season next season as opposed to fly home across the world and moving to Australia. Right so I think that also It was kind of a perfect storm factors but I think that also helped the G. League case is a strong case to see these guys who might have been seriously looking at going overseas So Now it'll it'll be fascinating and the reality is that this is at its core really kind of an academy system so even if they couldn't play the full ten or twelve exhibition slate. They're gonna be able to you. Know hopefully potentially be training with high level professional basketball coaches and getting mentorship from high level professional basketball players. And you know at the at the very least you would think that Scouts will be coming to their practices. And that sort of thing so thanksgiving man I appreciate it. Yeah Yeah thank you. Yeah really enjoyed our thanks to Dan for joining me on the PODCASTS. Always appreciate his inside on the G. League were awkward is a production of the San Francisco Chronicle Support Warriors in the newsroom. That creates it by signing up for chronicle membership s of chronicle dot com slash pot.

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#284: The Revolt of the Public

Tech Policy Podcast

38:27 min | 2 months ago

#284: The Revolt of the Public

"Do the tax policy podcasts. I'm internet policy council tech freedom. Martin is here. He's been called the man who saw it coming. Martin is a former cia analyst specializing in the relationship of politics and global media his book. The revolt of the public and the crisis of authority in the new millennium first published in twenty fourteen and updated in two thousand eighteen has been praised for shadowing the political shocks of brexit and the rise of donald trump. He's visiting research fellow at the mercatus center. Martin it is so great to have you here. Having to be here with the gordon. Was i read your book a few months ago and it is one of those books and i don't say this about many that i think about all the time And i really do recommend to our listeners. If if they want understand what's going on in the world today. There is no better place to start than the revolt of the public Why don't we dive in sort of at the at the early part of your book which you go into the past and say something. That now seems almost quaint that there was a debate over the real world effect of social media. At one point you mentioned One time malcolm glad was sort of skeptical that social media could have a real world impact. I think it's fair to say that debate is over. What happens on the platform can clearly have a real world effect. You discuss therere square and the arab spring as one example Another in america That now seems like such distant histories is comet ping pong pizza incident. And now of course what's on. Everyone's minds is the riot at the capital. So i think if there's one thing we've learned at least recently it's that the side effects like warning labels you know. This claim about election. Fraud is disputed on facebook or whatnot. Probably is not having much of an impact and my first question for you. Is you talk a lot. About the hierarchy and elites versus the public can elites have influence on people and. I don't mean a suppressive techniques platforming. I mean actually getting the public to Have the views that the hierarchy seeks to Put on them on. My question is how do you influence I would ask you that right back. What is influence. How do i know hug. Suppose i wanted to influence you How would i go about that. If i have a tv show. I can say things that you might accept or reject but the whole science of influence is very complex very difficult. I'm not sure that we were ever influenced by the elites. It just said we couldn't talk back right so in the old days we had these these elite figures some of them were politicians. Precedents or whatnot. Some of them were Anchorman that was supposed to be widely trusted like like a multi cronkite and they talked at us and while we had no alternatives. There there was nobody else or another source of information. But i'm not sure we're influenced so much as we were just stuck in zile puddle of of low information Society right one seconds blown away. It's impossible to get it back. It's impossible to get back to that moment and the idea of taking little stories or even little platforms like parlor and say now. We're going to get it back by getting rid of these people. It's a little bit like picking up a green of sand. And saying i got the beach you know i mean it just doesn't work like that you it you. You are dealing with the enormous amount of information. It's it's the structure that matters is on any given piece of content that matters it's the structure that is setting the tone so these folks are of course the elites are trained in twentieth century ways of thinking and haven't quite evolved into our actual moments history yet and so they think as a twenty cent to he did in terms of content a story in the new york times for example Story's important or stories outrageous. It must be you know. Gone through counteracted or something but that is not what's going on here is thought about a piece of content is about the structure of information being completely revolutionized. And no. they can't get it back. You're making me picture if walter cronkite had had comments section as he was speaking. That's a really interesting thought We'll try and push back. Even though i find that convincing You know if you read the pages of the atlantic or whatever There's it's almost conventional wisdom at this point that the major platforms like facebook and twitter pushed extremists content and inflammatory content through the algorithm mickley promoted. And that they share responsibility for some of the events like the riot at the capital. There's a lot of debate about. Oh well you know. This didn't really happen on parlor happen on facebook or you know that goes back and forth and certainly facebook has a lot of users and is is currently occupies a central position. So are you saying that even a major platform that's used by. I forget the exact number acting like eight billionaires. They change their algorithms. They d promote things. I mean doesn't have some kind of impact. don't they have some control over this impact. Yes control no no a parlor file on a server in russia somewhere as i understand it then they were up flying right so it's too big. It's too big for. Google is too big for facebook and those two things are are against one hundred percent true but given the size of the web. It's too big for them. So no i don't think i don't think that's the case and and You know when you say it's extremist if favors extremists An anti democratic rhetoric. I mean Dictators have been overthrown in egypt and jiri and a sudan and bolivia by people who were using all these by forbes right so thinking in terms of extremist or or anti-democratic is probably to narrow the the the crisis crisis of democracy but of authority and a i think basically the structures of authority in our in our in a moment in time right now we have inherited from the twentieth century are just wildly maladaptive to our infomation a landscape so this collision between the institutional structure and the formation of the landscape and sometimes it hurts democracy because we are democracy sometimes. It topples dictator. Because that's where you are right. So if you're hustling mubarak you probably don't think of a facebook as being something that That is extreme in the sense of helping helping a bad actors. You'd think of it as you know. I'm a dictator and this is a way of getting around me. What one thing. I should maybe explain for our viewers. You use the term. V wave which i like And you mean that to connect previous waves of information Agree the first one you start with his gutenberg and then you move forward. I sort of think of that another term. I've heard his liquid modernity. And i think those are really powerful concepts that you're you're connecting to that people in places of authority don't really grapple with or i might even go so far as they don't it So when you see their attempt to respond. I mean i. I have different buckets that i tried to put the league response to i. I kinda lead. We'll get to this. What does that even mean. But one way i think of it is. This is just a futile exercise of anger. You know how dare. People share breitbart links on facebook instead of listening to me Another one is that they are. They're fighting a fragmentation of reality. They're trying to do what you're saying is futile and create this new unified. You know i'm i want to be walter cronkite again and actually as you mentioned. It's just gonna continue to go in the other direction. We might even see the block chaining of social media where you not even twitter and facebook have control over this kind of stuff anymore are are those lenses them. Does that make sense. I mean what's your read on the situation. Well i mean. Here's the question or i would part of. What i think is is Wrong the way we approach this this this whole issue of informational. Transformation is received a very narrow time. Timelines on we're looking at the day. Of course the thing about this informational landscape at its throws crap you at immense levels every day so every day it's a crisis every day is the end of the world Every day it it you know something horrible is happening every day. You have to respond right but really would be good to take a deep breath and step back and i think we're the very very early stages of of of this colossal transformation from the twentieth century industrial model of organizing humanity which was very top down. Very i talk you listen To something that honestly doesn't even have a name yet. It's a long march to question mark. We don't really know right so All the elites are still stuck in the past. That's kind of regretful. Although understandable it was much more comfortable to be an elite in the twentieth century when nobody talked back then It is today when everybody only talks back but screams back in just about every question right so everybody wants the elites as you say they they want to somehow browbeat Social into being the front page of the new york times circa say nineteen eighty that was just so comfy right And they deal in in stories in and little bits of content. But i repeat this is not about any single piece of content. This is about a tremendous structural. Change that basically. Our institutions are unable to cope with so I i don't. I don't see the elites being able to do anything until aid the institutions are reconfigured and be honestly we get ourselves to newly class so one of the fascinating things as i read your book and look at the world and you see this joke made off and on twitter. Where a very online people use the cliche think the world is just completely on fire and then people i walk around my neighborhood in the suburbs and talk to my neighbors and and normal people which is like not you or me or people on you know who are on twitter. Don't you know have a very different view of the world and a lot of their life is going on as normal. And i have a hard time reconciling that in my own mind as i suppose being a very online person myself As we look at the world and things look fine. I mean a talk of a bubble asya. Markets seem okay. Tak were clearly just still innovating. The vaccine development was amazing even if the deployment has been so so And so i. I know that you do not predict the future. And you're not a prophet and yet i'm gonna try and press you but anyway i mean is the fifth wave a surface level phenomenon where we're gonna be disgruntled and ballistic and kind of have no unifying worldview and and there's a certain amount of enemy and maybe loss of meaning. But we're fine. Everything's good were you know comparatively rich and we continue to see a global poverty declined and all that good stuff. Or is this really capable of sparking a major collapse or you know a kind of long drawn-out stagnated brutal conflict. Like the thirty years war. That's a good question. And i don't have the answer. I i agree with you. I am a precedent engaged in this one of these exercises. You write something and the other person writes something you're gonna debating with one another and and the person that i'm debating with was talking about a we're in as cold civil war our politics warlike and i'm reading this you know you can't see but if i if you look right directly dorm staring at that's my window then what you might neighbors kind of the amble around and still he'll distance way about each other and i'm going like well that's the weirdest civil war have ever so hundred percent agree with you that that we need to And i think honestly doing that being that kind of Hysterical is the settlement of self-fulfilment than it. This way i see it. I don't know if you have ever been. The personal is not a surface level. Event this tectonic. This isn't the depth. The change is that the conic coalition right and the pressure from below is everywhere and all times and you just never know what random and unpredictable factors are going to bring it to the surface. Ride like Wall street bet some. Who would have predicted that one. I don't know if you've ever been to the bay of naples. No i went to rome on my honeymoon. Okay that's it. I mean. Italy everywhere is wonderful but the bay of naples a special all right and we bring it up is is gorgeous place and everybody goes around their business and everything is totally normal. And they're sitting on this camera that not only has the suva's ended that blows up and kills people every twenty years or so but it was a while mini volcanos explode. And take out a neighborhood somewhere all around. The rim of that of that bay is tremendous tectonic instability and. You never know where it's going to be but you look at it. It looks pretty normal. Right so i think we're sort of like the Historic quivalent of the bay of naples or walking around. We're doing pretty good but any moment Something can blow up. That can be you know. Take down the stock market for example. And what you wanna do is work. We are hard to make sure that there. An of the super gonna blow the whole thing up. That's a really a vivid analogy. I i like that And it does make me think of how going to the topic. I'm sure we both agree on completely the absolute unpredictability of the future. And something that seems like Disgruntled people online can lead to planes getting crashed into the world trade center. Or i don't know if that's that's obviously over-simplistic but but individual actors not too much. Yeah you and and you'll never see coming until it happens and then we'll be very good at preventing planes going into buildings and totally unprepared for the next thing. It was part of what he said. I think which is Okay lives don't have much. Meaning i think you you drop that. That sentence in there at some point the meeting before. And i think at the heart of of a lot of this is The wish to derive meaning if the religion recedes as a communities recede as even family to some extents have receded. The great sources of meaning that the human race has relied on for the last. Ten thousand years There is this hunger for something hunger for something That we need really to try and be understanding about that hunger when you look at It would seem to be very understanding of black lives matter during the silver that was about. You're right But i think those crazy looking people took over the capital. You know. I mean. I'm not i mean i think every one of them should be prosecuted and every every one the book any law and there should be should have the book thrown at them. But we need to understand why it happened. You know what is it about these people that you you can wear pair of horns and painter so blue and think somehow you are mickey political statement these people are are striving for something for the have some hunger for meaning and they point to get it at the wrong place which is politics one thing. I wonder all the time to kind of connect to an earlier point. You made a you mentioned. Okay so maybe walter cronkite. Maybe we weren't all unified in our information. It's just that we weren't hearing the voices and one thing i think about often actually is is we have this big discussion about meaning and sometimes there's this real nostalgic like oh well they had meaning in the past. There was the one church. Or you know that was in your country and all these. These hierarchies and i often wonder you know. If i was living in tudor england and i went at where people going to church and they were monitoring under their breath. Like this makes no sense or or you did people in the past really have this great sense of meaning and like it was dirty and their living standards were really poor but oh they were happier than us because they had meaning or is it. We just didn't know it because we don't hear them. I mean if you read a lot about even renaissance and even later Probably up until the eighteenth century Whether they had meaning or not they took for granted a world. in which when you died something Something in the way of justice happened to you right. I mean they just took it for granted it was it that was the world as they saw. That was the might as well have been science and told them that right. So yeah i think so. You can be very anxious and i think meaning and happiness are not as early as same thing in the world can have meaning. Everybody talked about the cold war which i am happy to have participated in and they always say well. That was much easier. Those days with more simpler You know you had good guys and the bad guys and so you just gonna fight the good fight. That was so wrong. People were so confused about what was the right way to fight. Communism should we even fight communism if they took over a third world country maybe was better for that country to have communism set of capitalism. So but the meaning was not so. The meeting was not in simple answers. It meeting was in that struggle trying to figure it all out right. It was something costing something important. Everything life today is very flat and small. And i think people do. It is part of our human inheritance. Were the What separates us from. The animals is not tools that our brains as were symbolic animals were symbolic animals. We need more than what we see with our own eyes. We need some some larger justifications for our lives and the world today has tripled providing them for us and since politics is what gets ronan. You'll the time of by this information environment than people try to squeeze it out of politics and the end up very angry because politics can give it to them. Yeah the the spread of politics two to encompass all meaning I think we could do a whole separate show on. I can tell you i. I was born in cuba right and my parents i was young boy took took me over to the united states the obligatory year miami for i came to washington the first thing i noticed about the united states of america. Way back then you jack kennedy or I am is nobody talks politics cubans. It was politics pot. The you my friend. You're my enemy here. Was like everybody was living their lives. Oh my god we can halfway get back to that Whatever politician could get us back to. Don't talk about me anymore. Just do live your lives That that person's got my vote. One thing that fascinates me is the way that simultaneously in a postmodern where meaning is fractured. And yet we have lots of people who in their struggle to substitute politics for meaning Are as fanatical as anybody in any 'cause ever and they don't seem to recognize that That it's very contingent. I mean if it was eighteen o five and they lived in england the rivalry between the english. The french would be what occupied their minds. And instead it's this and we're not you know we obsess over Some topics rather than others which doesn't mean those topics aren't important but that it it's strange that people are so capable of having an overriding narrative that drives everything they do. I find that confusing in a post. Modern age yeah. I agree with that. And i think i mean i. I don't want to be glib. Am i think people are are searching for something. And so you search for something and you find molehill. And that's what you got. You wanna make malcolm right. Because moe hills are distill. Fill that empty space inside of you. So this is really not a molehill. Etta mountain when i was in graduate school. People always said you know. The stake of the fights in academia are inversely fierce as to you know how how little matters for the outcome right so i think we have a little bit of that right now. Is that I think that the man for for meaning injustice and the for struggle against you know evil and so forth exceeds the supply. So what is their get blown up to two very ferocious and and very Absolutist terminology in emotional stands well. I'd like to circle back to an issue that i find incredibly confusing in my own mind which i mentioned earlier you know. What is an elite at this point so facebook has a lot of final ascent as has google the big one. That is on Very online people's minds. These days is the new york times where employees have Shifted the paper's mission to one of more clarity and we're seeing a lot of Acrimony there right now and as an aside to the listeners everyone should check out martin's recent article He wrote in a city journal on post journalism and it focuses on what's going on at the new york times and i highly recommend it. Are these inter elite struggles. If i work at the new york times a mine. Even if i'm a line reporter doesn't that make me an elite i mean. How do you categorize these internal debates at institutions yuccas to me. An elite is somebody who does inhabit an institution. And sometimes you're high up sometimes your way down. But if you are part of that institutional structure you view the world from a certain perspective right. I think what's happening in all these places and google so had a revolt of of of the young people with a couple of things. I think that generation the zimmer generation that provides all these uprisings inside all these companies. It's an interesting one to study Mine around it. But i think when you the side the old rules for what it is that we need to talk about are gone and you will need to control the information environment because trump and look on Then then you're gonna get a battle if the objective standards the all handbook of a facebook. Facebook was supposed to be a platform wants to starts Platform people for political reasons. It's not a platform anymore. Right it's deciding what people should To see so there's gonna be a battle you know once you get that a subjective Idea of us should see only what. And then the what you have in new york times as yoga. Once you've thrown out the handbook we want our definition of what should be viewed or what should be read To be what. Controls the information agenda. And i think there is in particularly in the new york times not in facebook A little bit of that academic you know the fight is only a ferocious is more ferocious. Sticks are minimal because the new york times of fifty years ago would never have gone through this fifty years ago if a hundred and fifty young reporter to the newsroom sent that letter to to their management. Saying you should do this. You should do that and it should cover this issue. Cover that that would have been walked into. The chief editors office said sunny. You do this again. And you're gone okay. Because in those days the new york times was in your times. And i speak as somebody who does not believe that had particularly storied past but it was. I mean new york times thirty forty years ago. Set the information agenda every other newspaper. America look at the front basically the new york times. Those are the stories accuse same was true of the evening news so it was a famous and influential source of information today. Just one one voice in the babbel ended in the absolute shriek of voices And saw the stakes are smaller. And so you have these young people trying to determine who it is once. It's not the old way of determining how we said the information agenda than who decides not anymore more about what. What is the standard. What is the handbook. That's who right. And the who is either these institutional figures like dean bouquet annot the basically the top management of the of the Of the times that editorial at least to be middle-aged or the young people the newsroom. Who are you know trying to set this. Very extreme Moral standard in everything that gets written by the times. Why don't want to get to trapped in taxonomy but are we perhaps than heading in a direction where sort of its public. All the way down. And i mean if if if i have a hundred thousand twitter followers but no institutional connection or or i right on sub stack and people are getting their views that way and sort of the institutions yet. Just broken down. I i hate to pick on them but like the new republic where it it now is kind of an also ran that just becomes kind of all institutional media's is that a good way to view it is just sort of information anarchy the short-term. Yeah i think in some ways Like i said the very early stages and you need an elite class. I am not a believer that the public run anything public not interested in running in his devoid of the remarkable things about the the. The revolt of the public is that it's a revolt. But it's not aiming for power it doesn't aim to implement programs and it doesn't even have much of a particular ideology so you have black lives matter basically rampage in our urban centers for like a month or two. I'm not sure what came out of that. Then you have cunanan that actually manages to take over the capitol building. Nobody was more surprised than they were And then then it's like well now. What the worst thing for these group is when they win because then the question is To them so what do you want. What do you want. And the answer is they. Don't have a clue so we need a lease we need. I think we need a different class. That can be a twentieth century model elite class. The institution's need to be reconfigured. The can't be twentieth century model institutions government. I mean amazon is a huge bureaucracy right but you experience is not that you experienced amazingly fast service at really reasonable prices. Think about government. Government is a dispenser of huge numbers of services. But you don't expect that would you. Experience is arrogance delay bureaucracy right so somehow or another. We need to make government more like amazon. That's probably facile. The i'd wanna make the second become an internet company but we are living in the digital age. There is no recent one government has to be so steep why it can be flatter. Can't be faster. And i think the odds are. I mean something is going to have to happen. w- either. We're going to have continual chaos say or what i hope is We will get elite class. That knows how to reconfigure Democracy to reconfigure democracy. This second be very drastic. Is that a big revolutionary thing just making a flatter and faster look the internet fingers crossed and well in in closing a bit of a twist for you. It will put our postmodern hats on all right now so as you. I'm sure agree. Narratives are limited and perspective. All and i'm gonna. I'm gonna pay you with the term elite because if you write a popular book. I'm sorry that in my mind you you've made it And you presented a narrative. And i find that narrative really compelling centered around information but it's a narrative so you and i both have center limited and and perspective of us We have giant spots But we're capable of reading other people so when you look out. Your narrative is centered around information. That's how your bed bet gives you good lens on what's going on with mcgarity are there any other narratives that you find compelling or at least interesting and provocative specifically in explaining what's on with social media platforms and information. Well let's social media. Say i find you've eleven's analysis of the institutions very interesting. I recommend this book He basically says that our institutions were once formative. So we if we were. If we belong we belong to. Cbs news. We were Became little Version of walter cronkite. You were disciplined and your character was. Molded were formed by the institutions. You were at and they have now become performative. They're just platforms for elites to essentially self express and promote third personal brands. Right i think the really interesting narrative. I think arnold kling talks about the dunbar number. Two number number is the maximum number that the human beings that the average person can deal with hundred something hundred forty and and so most of your emotions and most of your the drama of your life happens within that dunbar number and he says the internet essentially has blown away. We now treat people that we have never had any contact with precedents Movie stars whatever assets. They were part of our dunbar number so our emotions are much more deeply engaged because we treat them as we would treat our our boyfriends and girlfriends or our bosses or whatever the people who live and determine the context and the flavor of our lives. I think that's another interesting narrative. The interesting interesting thing is that there isn't that a reactionary narrative. You always look for. What isn't there right and You seem to be very adept. At history. you know there is the equivalent of metternich. The congress of vienna. You wonderful book. A world restored that henry kissinger wrote Trying to put together europe after the insanity of the french revolution napoleonic wars and the end of course it couldn't quite do it but they did an amazing. There was a a narrative of reaction. This is who a legitimate ruler. Should be all right. And when i look at the least today trying to for example turned facebook into the front page of the new york times. I'm thinking i'm syncing behind this. A coherent theory of of what the world should look like information. Early is still very ad hawkins deployed from this. Do this little thing. There's there's there's no narrative of reaction. I think joe biden is a reactionary figure. I think reaction right. Now is sort of mildly on the rise But this is seemed to be set on when you see that of that. He wants to put himself up as a. You know a good precedent. He will lean on progressive. Ideas doesn't lean on reactionary ideas. His heart is in the twentieth century. He wants to be Basically he wants to be there for four years and that have too much trouble but when he talks sometimes he sounds more like those kids in the new york. Times newsroom. If you read those those Executive orders about equity that he wrote Than than he so. I'm not seeing where that would lead him other than to a mess of trouble. There is no reactionary narrative and that demy spells that they will be reaction very temporary. Will it sure would be fun. If thirty years from now we could have a new episode is podcast and see if meaning just continues to fracture infraction fracture Down that in the decadent society a he put it away. I like that. All the ideas are just getting recycled than if you go on twitter. It's like catholic integral ism again and marxism again and people aren't there. We have yet to see the new overriding narrative. And it's just a fracturing and people trying to reconstruct things on twitter that were built over you know something that was built over a thousand years throughout communities and nations in an hour. We're going to do it online with means and not going very well. Well martin. it's been a privilege to have you thank you so so much for your time Do you have any future worker. Events coming up that you'd like to share. No i mean. I am a massively over work i You know the question of whether or not that's always fascinating to me. I mean i always felt. I was when it wasn't cia For a long time. I really didn't belong to any organisation but now mercatus. I'm a visiting scholar at right a right for the discourse. Oh i would recommend that as a good place to go to but I used to go there once a week before covid so felt like i was elite on wednesdays right the rest of the day i was just kinda like old old martin gurry joe schmo you've been you've been officially stamped an elite on the tech technical. Podcast your cars now. I like i like it. Well thank you again martin. And you're welcome on anytime That is all from us. I am corbin. Barth old internet policy council at tech freedom. This has been the tech policy. Podcast next time tech. Podcast is produced by text. A nonpartisan nonprofit thinking washington. Dc to learn more about our word tax deductible donation or five other episodes find us online at tech freda dot org.

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Climate Data From Tree Rings

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Climate Data From Tree Rings

"Forest can offer us picturesque views. But did you know they can also look the. Why is that important to better understand our climate. We need to study. The past and inspecting trees is a great way to do it. We're ringing in the new year by talkative valerie. True from the university of arizona cheese trees to study past climate forest ecosystems atmospheric circulation patterns and more will discuss what tree ring can actually tell us about our planet's history and how we can use to protect future generations. Valerie thank you for joining us on. The weather gets podcast. Thank you so much for having me on marshall. it's really really an honor to talk to someone. That's looking at an area that you know. Our weather geeks lists use may not have as much familiarity with. I think these are the sometimes the best episodes because you can really learn together about tree rings in paleo-climatology in all kinds of big fancy words like dinge rose sciences. So before we do that though. I always liked to sort of. I want to give a little of your background and then while i'm doing that you can be thinking about this question. How did you get into what you do. What what what migrated you into that field before we do that. Let me paint a picture of valerie's background. She's a professor of dendrochronology at the university of arizona. The laboratory of tree research. She has a phd in bioscience engineering. I'm not even going to try to pronounce the name of her university. But it's in belgium She's the author of tree story. A history of the world written in rings science and has an affiliation with the swiss federal institute for snow in landscape resurge in their dangerous sciences unit. And she's the university of arizona distinguished scholar and copley fellow of the national academy of sciences. All of that means she knows her stuff and she's a big deal so we'd love to have you so so. How did you sort of migrate into this. Usually when we have meteorology gra gas. They often say it was a storm whether experience. What's your experience that got you into your field. It's a good question. It really was serendipity most more than anything else so as as you mentioned. I got my degrees in bioscience engineering in in belgium. There's not really a metrology paths. That one can take in belgium in the university so always been interested in the climate but i had to kind of go a take a detour to get there. When i was looking for topic for my masters thesis i had never heard of dendrochronology before just like many other people i didn't. I had no idea that one could studied climate using cheering hearings. But i really badly wanted to go abroad for my masters these. They're really wanted to go to work. And there was this one topic that was listed cheering analysis in tanzania and. I figured you know. I'd love to go to tanzania tree. Rings are way to get there. I'll go do that so i did that. Student we went to tanzania to collect samples and when we got back. When i started looking at the would in the lab through a microscope does when i really got hooked on under chronology i. It's would is beautiful when you look at it under a microscope and really what we do as dendrochronology last week we match pad patterns into rings that we see between trees and so. It's kinda like solving a puzzle. So you're doing day to day is looking at beautiful wood through microscope while solving a puzzle while working on big important topic. So it's hard to not love doing. So that's kinda how. I got started in under chronology and honestly never done anything else so really. We have all kinds of stories of how people the pathways into their careers. And so that's an interesting when So i guess we can sort of You know attribute tanzania in the lure of and i want to pull back out before we really dive into dendrobium chronology in what you do and tree rings and so forth because it's my understanding definitely clerk correct me. If i'm wrong that you have dinner. Chronology is an example of something that is very common in climate science. Or what we call paleo-climatology which is the use of proxy. I'm a professor at the university of georgia and there's a colleague in my department a day. Ritu that does work using lake sediment cores in some people may be familiar with ice cores. Give our listeners. Just the one on one on the use of proxy data for climate studies reason. Is it reliable. Yeah gladly so if we wanna study. Natural climate variability wanted to study out a climate changes in a natural way. We have to go further back in time than what when we started measuring the claim it would instruments because we started reliably measuring temperature and precipitation and the climate in general on a global scale definitely no earlier on the start of the twentieth century in most cases a little later but but we don't have reliable climate data from instruments prior to the year nineteen hundred so that means that the period that we started measuring claim it from the twentieth century onwards the same time that we started messing with climate rate. That's when we started emitting so much. Co two into the atmosphere so Using instrumental day alone. We don't really have a good record of what natural climate looks like so we need to go further back in time to do that and to do that. We use as you mentioned. Proxies which are mostly biological or geological archives that record some aspects of the climate over time and so you can use ice cores as you mentioned in the amount of snow and is that's formed every year is a function of what the climate was like that year ice cores from greenland antarctica and so forth and the arctic and one of the most well. I'm a little biased here. Because i haven't been gene rings. Give her really good proxy to study the climate of the pastors limitations. Obviously we can only go back maybe two thousand years which hearings but we do have a data point each in every year which is really important and trees grow in very many places so we have a really good spatial coverage of what climate is leg in various regions in the world. Yeah and that's what. I'm glad you mentioned that. Because i i you know. I talked with some dendrochronology folks at the university of tennessee My home department at the university of georgia's actually a geography department armagh meteorologist atmospheric scientists. I've so we have some folks that think about some of these issues. And i i wanted to bring forth this notion that there is sort of a range of how far different proxy data sets. Go back i know. People use is scores. chorals makes adamant all kinds of things and they all have different records. I assure you as a climate scientists like me off often get from people but the climate changes naturally. How do we know that. This is different than the natural variability that we've seen and i always look at oddly an atmospheric scientist. I know the climate change is naturally but it's changing differently now in different rate and i think your work in helps inform this as you just noted so. I'm gonna dive in you kind of alluded to some of this. But what kind of climate data can we get from. Tree rings very many so trees wermer ring every year. Not all trees but trees that we use and how much a tree grows in a certain year so how wide it's ring is in a certain year is to a large extent of function of the climate under which it grows now if we as denver climatologist so dendrochronology who studied climate. If we want her look at temperature in the past we go to regions where the trees are most influenced by by cold temperatures for instance in in northern regions in the northern hemisphere cold regions. Basically so either at high elevation or high latitude on the other hand we wanna look at drought patterns empress petition. In the past we go to dry regions. So where i live in tucson trees a really reliable recorders of when it was dry years it was wet so so those are the two main aspects that we can look at temperature and drought using trainings. But from there we can go in a lot of direction. So some work that i've been involved in recently is linking because we have such a nice spatial coverage with tree rings. We can look. We can link temperature variability from various places on the earth with each other and look at patterns such as what the jet stream has done in the past. Or what el nino southern oscillation has done in the past other things. We can look at our storms for instance hurricanes floods really important. Stop you right there. I want to kind of just interrupt a little bit. Because i was gonna ask you about that. So these episodic more episodic type changes in our climate system icon a strong hurricane or series of them that made move through. How do you tease that out of a tree ring. Yeah very good question. And it's it's it's a little different from. Let's say temperature or precipitation reconstruction which you know you measured a win the ray in every year and you get a continuous record of how wet every year was our how hot every year when you look at more. Climate extremes or events like storms or fires for instance really good example as well or floods. You don't get a record of it every bit you do get the years when flood happened or when a storm and under different mechanisms so floods. Some trees form what we call flood drinks. Meaning that when their stems are flooded Trees growing by. Let's say the side of the mississippi and mississippi floods in the stems of the trees are flooded their underwater. They're not getting enough oxygen and they actually form a different kind of ring. You can actually see. The anatomy of the wood is different in those years in terms of storms and hurricanes there. It's a different mechanism that's happening. We for instance used strings from the florida keys to study hurricane activity and their when a hurricane hits the keys to the keys are very low lying right low elevation when a hurricane hits you also get like a storm surge and so you got salt water intrusion which impacts the trees and so in the year of a hurricane and a few years following hurricane. There's saltwater intrusion the trees lose branches and they lose needles so they can't photo synthesize as well and they actually grow much less than in years but it's year that's not happening every year and what's really important with all of this research and thus does the advantage of tree rings is we calibrate or tree-ring records against the instrumental period. Because we have the data point each and every year we could check over the twentieth century or trimmings dulles was a hurricane in nineteen fifty six. Was there actually a hurricane in nineteen six. 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Traffic sports and more with local now available on i o s android amazon fire tv roku fubo tv and other streaming device home and we are back on. The weather makes podcast. I'm dr marshall shepherd from the university of georgia and i'm speaking with dr valerie. True a from the university of arizona. Talking about tree rings talking about a fundamental. I sorta get up on a source soapbox for second. We're talking about a fundamental aspect of climate science here because there let's keep it real. There are people that are have expressed skepticism about climate and climate change and climate scientists. And they ask. Questions that paleo climatologist danger climatology dendrochronology distance. So far are answering. It's always a little bit odd that people ask those types of questions because really smart people alary that do what they do and have thought about many of the questions that often get ask about. Well how do we know how things are. Compared to the past. I mean for example. Some of these ice core records. I've seen go back hundreds of thousands of years as you just heard of valerie in her work on tree. Rings can really look a period that couple thousands of years which is very important for understanding. Sort of your recent Changes relatively speaking so forth. So the question. I wanna start with in this next segment is just how far. What's the oldest tree that you've actually analyzed. I love talking about that so into. i've sampled myself. Elvis burly around it thousand years old couple of locations. One was in sierra nevada and california incense cedar and then more recently we went to greece. up high in the mountains in greece where there's some bosnian pine growing. We actually found the oldest living tree in europe which was seventy five years old time. So that's pretty old for europe. Especially if you think of greece like it's it's a country with a very old you know society where people have been deforesting for a very long time into find oldest a in your there was impressive but that pales in comparison to the age of the trees in north america honestly in the americas in general so the oldest living tree i did not core it but the oldest living single tree and also the oldest living species are at a bristlecone kinds that grew in the white mountains on the border between california and nevada. Undated grow up to five thousand years so these are trees that actually were alive when the pyramids were being built in each and they're still alive. Now wow and what's really cool as dendrochronology per se of course really cool. Excuse me but would dendrochronology were not limited to living trees alone. I studied jiri rican. Look and we can use really any piece of wood as long as it has enough rains in so we can use. would firm. Dead trees from historical buildings from archaeological material from trees fell into lakes. Thousands of years ago trees up fell into rivers thousands of years ago and so for instance. Those bristlecone pines the trees themselves or up to five thousand years old but the environment that they grow in. it's it's very high elevation and it's also very dry. So that means that when a tree dies the would is preserved really. Well because there's not really much that deteriorates would so when you go to that site where he's old tree tree. Screw you can find. Would at still trees that died literally thousands of years ago and there would still lying around on landscape so we can you know sample not only two living trees but also to dead wood. That's that stare and bring back chronology further back in time than five thousand years and you in your in your your discussion there. You mentioned the term. That i wanna make sure i understand the scientists and then also our listeners because you said corey core the tree and so you know when i'm envisioning even when i've seen tree rings are I envisioned i guess thinking mostly of dead trees have been i guess cut or sliced and so you can reveal the ring but to meet chorusing brings to mind something different so you can you explain what you mean by. Core in in how that differs press techniques us. Yeah definitely and thank you for asking that question because it's really important for people to know that we don't cut down living trees to our science. I mean it'd be would be done quickly if we had to cut down every tree in order to count its rings so what we do. Our typical instrument is a core Which is a hollow word that we four by hand into the tree so it's just a medal for that's about a quarter of an inch in diameter so about a quarter of an inch in diameter you core into the tree by hand you typically take to core is from from every tree and it doesn't damage the tree doesn't hurt a tree. It's a bit like drawing blood of person and you you you you take a small part out of its stem. Doesn't do much harm. But that small perks of what you extract. Out of the cord extract. It's kind of a pencil sized core. That has all the rings the inet that you need. So that's what we do for living trees as you mentioned once sample Deadwood from trees have died already. It doesn't matter. I mean they're dead already so then we we mostly take our chain on and take a cookie out of it as as we call it would you. Would you consider the discovery. You talked about in greece as your most significant discovery. Or is there something else that you want to make us aware of that. You feel most proud of her interested in ask because i think most Important discovery one mentioned too. When i mentioned the gesturing works that we're working on now. I think that's really what we are trying to do. In my lab is really use. Our expertise in in in denver climatology intrigue rings to answer to most urgent and pressing climate science change and climate science questions and a one of those big questions in the climate science community. At the moment is what is happening to the jetstream. What is happening it and is this related to anthropogenic climate. Change and so as would would many other issues. We don't really have a long record of what's happening with the jetstream digestion As you well you don't wash for listeners. the dat high high above the earth surface. So at around ten kilometers six miles above the surface. And they've really orchestrate. The climate to wetter needs The jet stream at the urge surface. And so we found a way to use tree. Rings advert surfers to reconstruct. The jetstream. dot is happening ten kilometers above the surface. So just being able to do that. I think was was was quite revealing and so we found that there the average physician we looked at a gesture or atlantic basin. The average position of digestion hasn't really changed much so far. We've reconstructs over. Three hundred years hasn't changed much. But there's many more extremes in that position of gesturing since about one thousand nine hundred sixty and those extremes in the jetstream create climate extremes of wetter extreme so so whereas we. We can't say that this is caused by anthropogenic climate change. We can say that what we're seeing now in terms of the jet stream is extraordinary in the context of the last three hundred years. That's really fascinating talking by the doctor. Valerie true a from university of arizona. That's really fascinating because Several years ago colleague of mine and you may know her as well. Dr jennifer francis of rutgers came out with this idea of arctic amplification. Its impact on the jet stream and its ample impact on the amplitude of the extremities in the in the jet stream pattern which would lead to extreme heat waves and droughts in on the sort of trophy side. The low pressure side of that more stormy conditions quite controversial at for some thought it was controversial. I i've seen more scientific literature suggests the she was certainly on something and it. Sounds like your results actually is a again still working in progress but it sounds like you sort of confirm what she seen to some degree. Yeah we can. We confirmed that. There's more extremes in the jetstream now we. We can't talk about with our research. We can talk about what is causing those extremes but the fact that it's happening at the same time when you know there's all kinds of other changes to our claim it and the fact that it's unusual in the context of last three hundred years suggests that they're they're related that that work were now link actually going back to those old trees. We've found in greece. We're now pushing back That three hundred year reconstruction of jetstream over the last millennium. So pushing it back to more than a thousand years which will allow us to not just look at more. Recent bass will also look at periods like the medieval climate anomaly and is h ber. And we are back on the weather. Podcasts and dr marshall shepherd from university of georgia. I'm talking about knock valerie true about some interesting things that you can do it. Tree rings and other data sets and so forth and last discussion was a really interesting degaulle. We like to say on the show because we you know. She made the connection between what's happening in the climate of the pass. Using she's a detective using a tree and linking that to something. That's very important to our weather. The jetstream the jetstream literally is a principal driver in aware. That jet stream is located can determine quite a bit of things about our contemporary weather. And so that's that was fascinating. Are there any other trends. That you've seen other than changes in the jet stream from your work that you wanna share with us. I'd like to share marshall. That when you're warmer talkin well global warming rate about temperatures rising everywhere around the earth. That's something that you definitely see. The tree-ring said it doesn't matter where you're tree-ring come from your temperature for cold climates that increase in temperature in most recent century everywhere everywhere where you measure A temperature would trimmings. You'll see the twentieth century now. Twenty first century is extraordinary. And i want to mention there that That itself is extraordinary. The fact that the climate or the temperature arise recent temperature rise. You see it everywhere. That's what makes it different from for instance previous warren period. So i just mentioned a medieval climate anomaly which in the past was called the medieval warm period an indeed in europe. That was so. We're talking about years. Eight hundred to four hundred more or less. That was a warm period in europe but it wasn't warm everywhere you look at other regions around the world. That does what we no longer call it. A medieval warm period. Because it wasn't more i'm everywhere. We call it the medieval climate anomaly. It was strange strange. Climate every mirror differences in the american southwest. It was dry not warm in asia. Did something different as well. So so so. The uniformity of the current warming is extraordinary compared to the past the fact that it is everywhere and the and met certainly is just one more piece of evidence. The sort of conciliates. If you will that that something's happening on a large scale and clearly At least my perspective in the scientific literature perspective anthropogenic go related. Wore to and other changes are driving. That i want to mention your book. You post a book called tree story. A history of the world written in rings. What inspired you to write the book. Thanks for asking that i was in twenty seventeen. I was lucky enough to get a sabbatical from university of arizona. And i got a year long sabbatical or took a year. Long sabbatical was. I just gotten tenure and i was really you know what it's like tires. Those ready for his sabbatical and I wasn't really sure what i wanted to do in my sabbatical so i knew i wanted to not. Just you know a sabbatical year off of teaching. But i didn't want just want to continue that thread mill of publishing papers writing proposal doing everything else. I really wanted to take time to figure out what it was that i wanted to do. In the next six years of micrometer and against their independence happened is three months into my sabbatical. I got an email from an editor at johns hopkins university. Press asking me hey. Are you interested in writing abroad. Audience book about your science about dendrochronology. And i'll be honest. My first reaction was like shirley that exists. I mean it's such a accessible science endocrinology rate. Surely someone has written a book about and i started thinking about it. I realized i don't think anyone has and if someone had. I would know so so then. I took on a challenge. I figured if an editor at a renault press interested in a topic let's go ahead and do it if not now baticle was a great timing for no i will mention. I started writing the book in a sabbatical. I bet you didn't finish it. Seventy nine months no so. I enjoyed enjoyed writing the book a lot. While i was on sabbatical once i got back to normal lives and had to write a book in as an aside to everything else the that we do. We got a little harder. But but i i got it done. I'm really happy. I actually really enjoyed doing. And the positives ask someone. I had a book contract work in urban climate. It's one of the areas. I work in actually in book contract and i realized this is going to be a lot of work. I actually writing that going to different direction with some of the things i published in that regard so kudos to you. I've written some other books on some other topically areas but not nearly the undertaking for book and our scholarly challenging. What you you're you're working. One produces wrote this question and i want to read it verbatim. She said being a professor you get to teach and inspire new generations. How does it feel to know others want to follow in your footsteps. That is a honestly that is what a lot of what keeps me going. You know you know as well as being a climate. Scientists at times can be frustrating. Abud also depressing. I mean it can be. There's no there's there's very little good news on everything that you hear about climate. It's you know and the order you learn about climate. It's often bad news so so really inspiring the next generation of scientists whether it's climate scientists other sciences. This just knowing that that the work that you do is not just finding facts about climate but is also encouraging younger. People either to study climate or two more importantly to care about climate and about our planet that is a large part of what keeps keeps me going and in writing this book. That's been a really nice side effect that something that i never imagined. Is that the amount of emails. I got from people saying how they really appreciate it The stories that. I tell how dave really most readers are not scientists. Really enjoyed reading about science You know learning people will tell me oh. I wish i'd known about as early. I would have become dendrochronology interviewed. I was interviewed by two young women. Were still in college for a podcast. And one of them said i'm gonna. I'm gonna bachelors teases on climatology now like this is this is great. I wanted to do this. So that's it's it's really inspiring in in both directions than being inspired by the work. I do inspires me to continue doing it. And i resonate exactly what you just said. Where can people find more information about you or your research. You have a website or on social media anywhere. I am twitter with what you twitter handle. It's epi ferrick atmospheric. That's where it comes from epics ferrick okay. Epi spherical play on atmospheric. Yes yes we'll make sure our listeners. Follow and also. I'll give you a foul as well. And then i have a website. It's valerie true. A dot com so first name last name dot com very good while i think we have to end their but before we do. It's time for our geek of the week. We like to highlight a scientists superstar. Great geologist or weather we at the end of every podcast. This episodes geek of the week is gerardo romero gerardo as a recent college graduate in his fascinated by all weather especially snow. His most memorable weather event was hurricane. Ivan in two thousand four gerardo knows the importance of weather warnings and wants to be able to warn people when inclement weather is ended their way. If you or someone you know it'd be deserving candidate for next year. We check out our social media pages valerie. Thank you so much for joining us on the weather. Each five guessed. It was my pleasure. I really enjoyed thing sign. I did as well learn quite bit. And i hope you did too. Dr marshall shepherd from the university of georgia. And you see next time.

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The Pre-Op

What's The Matter With Me? Podcast

10:27 min | 1 year ago

The Pre-Op

"Upbeats what's the matter with me. She's in three episode fourteen chain the PRIO I'm right welcome thank you for. You're listening to what's the matter with me. What's the matter with me podcast. It's another one of the trip the hip episodes. I'm not a medical professional. Don't take this for medical advice and if you need medical live rights to ask your healthcare provider recap last episode having Babbit Sodas called mm-hmm. I'm having micro vascular decompression surgery and that's rather descriptive -tival check it out on. What's the matter with me or g look apple podcast however you give it that they gave act with me? podcast one thing. I noticed about last episode thing I did notice about. The last episode is that I'm flapping my arms again. I I I figure out about flapping. My arms figured out about that in episode. Fi why and this is kind of joking. I guess I get nervous. You know you know if you've ever seen me like may him far. No He's flapping laughing my arms. 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I made remission a days after writing that September thirteen a maverick a low level of pain today candidate knowing but because I'm so traumatized ethos tolls or more Matt. It has a fear component. That's Today's September seventeenth so I'm not feeling that bad I was feeling pain came out of it now. I'm back in a little bit. That's how it goes. It's like a wave length. I'm I'm Kinda scared but at least I'm not a major pain right now. That's the way may what else can i. It should be say something better winter reading. It was like a family reunion and a rare thing in the family. Everyone was there and being like decades you know and so everyone was is there and the energy among us all a tremendous and I thought that was a good thing for me so I was glad to rebate ninety six degrees in the shade bus weekend though and the seats were most does the all in the blazing sun everyone who had a seat in the sun stayed standing in the shade close hosted the House waiting for the wedding music to begin to they would take their seats. The bride looked out from the dressing room. Window looked out over the grass in all she saw was empty seats. Nobody came. She cried ride by the ADL got done. They was good. I experienced UTAH. The fact which are went over first episode seven my thoughts bubble up through my mind like mind is full of mud and like a primordial use him my thoughts bubble up through that so they come very slow unlikely the hungry. It's like that and it's fatigue they call it. Utah effect discovered in the nineteenth century by German neurologist be figured out in people with MS feel bad when they're in the sun ever covered but unfortunately Lee caused my symptoms to give a lot worse temporarily originally Utah Effect makes your MS worse swing a heated up and and humid beavis covered by by putting patients in black felt boxes in the sun at the beach and they experienced there. Unfortunately I experienced that. It happened to me. Saving marrying this shady was so hot and the humidity rose was from the grass he wished used overwhelming couldn't even talk. I was badly slurring. My words even worse than unusual of course my cousin. Tommy said maxine me here we go. Tommy is a police officer. Yes Sir and he's asking me all these police officer comic questions like grilling me. He's like wait year. Did you move for New New York City questions where you you have to think of robbing answer. I Love Tong me. 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The Future of Space Travel and Drones

Future of Tech

51:54 min | 5 hrs ago

The Future of Space Travel and Drones

"Welcome to future attacks hosted by avi shy charlotte division president of amd amdex technology in this podcast. Abby shy sits down with some of the most innovative in technology to learn how they are disrupting the presence and what kind of impact they hope to have in the future from the machine learning programs that are solving some of the world's biggest problems to what i can do to help fight biological bottlenecks in human thinking. No topic is off limits so sit back relax and maybe take some notes because what you here on this show mike. Just be a glimpse into the future to say that gareth bash has always aimed high would be a little bit too on the nose yard is currently the co founder and ceo of fly treks aviation. But he was also the first. Ceo of space. I l a one hundred million israeli nonprofit organization that attempted to land the first private into planetary robotic mission on the moon on this episode of future of tech yariv tells the story of the many obstacles he faced and knows he heard on the way to building that rocket to the moon and he'll discuss what he sees for the future of space travel and inspiring the next generation of young engineers plus he dives into the work. He's doing now with flight. Treks and how drone technology is shaping up to change the way we live. Have things delivered within a matter of minutes. Fire drone and much more that are challenges though including how drones will be regulated and. What kind of safety and security needs to be put in place before they can fly oversaturated cities but fly tracks is already hard at work on those challenges and if gives us some clues about where we'll see drones overhead next and when enjoy this episode future of tech is brought to you by an docs tech and tech is an boxes. Rnd and technology center 'having the way to a better connected future by creating open innovative. Best in class products and continuously evolving. The we work learn and live to learn more about an. Doc's visit the amdahl technology page on lincoln very happy to host today boss which is co founder and ceo space year. One of the most Innovative inspiration of nonprofit organization. I've ever seen in my lifetime at least and will probably speak about it. The law is also currently serves as the co founder and ceo. Flight ext is dealing with drones so spoke about. We speak about this as well. So we'll come to future of tech and Very happy to have you. Thank you happy to be in the show. Thanks so you know so many question but let's start from from the beginning. How did it all start. Like how did you get into this Initiative and and decided that the out of nowhere. We're going to lend something on the moon. Well there was a lot alcohol in both coasts Back in two thousand. I was in jiri working for the government we used to defense in. I was also a collie being event. These executive his outing defense forces and security services three day. Venting nevels base Just slinging bekasi ecological guys equivalent of the fbi. Cia nsa in all those guys as well as the he's the city bringing all the most brilliant developers decays ecological guys on different branches of the of the government and led them fun. Foresee days you can pull Would become operational teams that smoking useless because we want to have senior g between those people of different julie the units and we want to let you have fun. We'd feel you never played before. So you feel government. Consoler joe mcconnell keeping south. Boga me then you can come back reading So then we will choose peres by any means the royal invented amazing event. In as i said okay. So what can we do. Next year will be even crazier than death in feltham. I said let's get launched to space small one. We can do that from air force base in put a small plastic face gals on the coke treatment least face off in the first space cops in one evening. I went to a friend's house. Say file format where. I used to leak in told him about my idea. And he said that thinking big enough in asking bucs That's too expensive down. Budget of the candidates a few tens of thousands of dollars. We said no. What about who will excise decommissioned. Send an unmanned spacecraft to the moon. So i was like i remember. There was something about that. We saw some videos. We had about the competition in the basically Means of dollars even more than that ultimately enough along as a wide selection of scorch was stalling. Back home states. Vive walking home. The middle of the night. I asked me send for opening music team to compete the Name dot my edges still Mate i e mail jonathan for visalia post industries doing food muhammad. The kgb in. I also posted on my facebook page. Go to the moon. That's how we got started. Few people so facebook one of them was feel which is also knew from the game in the silversmith above a few days later started plotting awake holds. The it appears that the most of your initiative starts in a fob or in drinking something here. Okay so you say you have an idea. I'll do bridge the gap. It's like literally it's it's it is a flying through the moon from point a to rich into them on. What are the milestone or the hurdles that you need to address. So you know it's it's like any other big vision new the beginning debate. He wouldn't of south apple's face a him so we sent an email to the chairman of these his facility. so he's a very Guy was like a three style. Generali's was General in charge of doubt by the The dichotomy of defense minister defensely fulda and basically we sent an email facilities for aries also professor We'll see young engineers. We'd like to send these. Can we have a meeting thinking about the mailing muscle and he played showed. You could come to my office so we went into his office. After orlando the moon. Come to my office before so bill club books. You stuck meeting okay. Shouting wasn't nation. That was the end of twenty ten and in that wasn't nation we we was stationed enough debut side just You can stop reading out. Let go and he stopped. Moving decides exam stop. I want in need those lives. Said gonna land of the morning two years because all of the decade. It's going call. This ended up with one hundred. Renewable based gotta be the size of eligible of a quarterback space gov the after feuding way more than half a gun plans and he said i much get. It's gonna cost you a lot more space off norway going to be much tweeter in no by the end of the presentation we will show that we get it free lunch. We're gonna just you know belonged out the resume with a cake. And he said he said guys not there yet. But i think you have a chance. I'm willing to be you know dwelling on advisory bold and mindful. Maui of my on on confirms i want you stage presenting albion. Confidence had hundreds of these events in the phone line. In the frontal we had people like the deputy administrator of nasa the chairman of the green space agency those guys in need of a no go at a facility said new plans on north realistic still gave us fifty minutes on stage. Talk about them which was amazing. Luckily for us in the audience and there was another guy in when we step down. He approached us said Guys the money and we told them where we just got stopping. Said i give you two thousand dollars to start. Negotiations in. that was always gone. Results leading obese Dives the caribbean while once we only another fence and got south in any told us you know we went to the boss of the most of the boats of yonathan co founder. Dan was a student the space division. And we we had a meeting with the head of the easily. Oh this face Started joining plans in. He wasn't that nice official Screaming at us. The viscosity eddie. Still gonna walk in the pla unrealistic by the rodney to indebted. Calm down and he said something. Maisy those guys. I have the only facility Could be dispaced. Goff believe that as long as you have some chance of succeeding. I believe it's my obligation to get started. So they will not about people who said no. I don't remember who they were told about the people who said yes you'll mother. My mother-in-law concluded and in terms of fair space journey. Can you explain the The difficulties wise it so Why can't you do it in a in a cola size aircraft. Why do you need the one hundred. Maybe ends what. What are the many issues. So the the main problem is. That face is very different than anything else conquering Unlv computer heats up the fence. Stout spiegel kloster whose phase no air if those fan speeds faster So you have to be. Cpap he waves. That's just one aspect in the allow dozens if not Affects what you really need the know. How the experience in heritage of people who only dynamics also has a nice facing st people do satellites. we've never been space scouts. So that's a completely new era area for anyone. So do that. For the first time we died gathering as much information and know how people will will be space agency. But it's come to develop everything you do for the first time in each different Give you an example. You can't just another example. Who can't come to spacex in dilemma. Guys i've just been the space guilty by backout. I grew everything together. New some Bruce please without on your lunch. It's going to be like. Oh by the way he presents face explosive doesn't fall death me. Everything has to be so five everything else at the end. Especially when you really loud kooks loud vehicle that has fueled on it. They have to rely to rely on the certificates Disagree woke because they want a few satellites Explodes to rest of missions so williams. He could have done it to weekly in a something. Besides the cocoa about will maybe just a bit be bigger than backs falling since the fuel tanks did it. I'm fuel tanks that small the space that they've been used just the i you know when we start going into southern going to the games just evolves that separate a few of the few in fuel tank from the trust me just you know you can have a single Valves between the fuel tank and customs in each one of those valves weighs more than a kilo more than two pounds. And you want those files that they've been using space so when you sell something things up things get a little bigger in. You'll dipoto goes the amount of hughley need full the by waves in and you say that used a specific you'll dank in each no longer a bigger while you can't get something that's ten percent bigger. Can maybe find something belts two times. We give much head so thinks stoute's sell to grow more complicated in if you wanna be the space cowboy about five times. We have to take educated leaks creatively between Like a main computer ole box that of consumer off sheriff. And you'll know how behaving space by you're willing to take a bunch of them so we'd have redundancy because he's gonna make the Simpler lightweight been using space age bounce. So it's a lot of those things that have to role in the first time you you tied to operate. Dusters propulsion systems easing space. You can't find it will talk to the owner. You can see ya so a lot of those things are just seem like damn until you stop bleeding. Otherwise we're gonna fade. Space is a house with louis. So in terms of testing checking broadly. There are many many things that you need to make make and the need to ensure the things are in the right old in the right place alexander. Did you simulate all of those. Did you bid the proprietary solutions or did you use existing solutions or both all so he actually will the hybrid lab to lab that has all the different components simulated has the environmental related. And then you can run. Simulations of being delegation from wrong from lending and you can inject their roles showdown pouts. Do those stuffs again. You wanna do that as much as possible. Get the won't so we saw. It's seen as much as you can. But who add to get to the beginning of the resources that you have and the resource of both diamond and as a team to do work together on everything or was it like. It's one of you took a task. Then you've met every few weeks with some believe or how do we feel. So it's it's you had like something like eighteen different disciplines for mechanics to thermal blah bionics benhas for baligian. Spacey's is everything has to be. Wild percent degraded. Everything is waking down to the gum. You ever budget multiple. Just be financial budget. A budget for the mass over Of our consumption for the fuel consumption on budget it's very intertwined project. Red very strong team believed deceased engineering. It's not a single person. We had the like five people doing that. So you had a lot of people working together to make that happen. Of course when you're doing daily developments ichi can walk on. Its own on also go to the team that developed the house comp- wrestles of communication channel. Big open the home once they had the points but at the end everything has to work together in everything has to be. You have to really include all the different. As the the way the us the about consumptions in different parts of the mission the fuel consumption eats inventing the gated off. Let's pause for a second. Because i'd like to go a bit to the personal aspect than and ask you. How did it all starts from urine. Where did you touch. I acknowledge win. Did you know that this is an area that you would like to arbil engineer. I i always. There's a kid. I love building stuff in still amazed like the fact that we can keep things in year it still for me to be magic magical. So why voters love things about plays stay scouts. Those kind of things. I never dealt with them. I never done doug professionally. In my intuition assumed defeat was done back in ninety two ninety sixties to be. We should be able to go out today for this. And when i consulted with a few people some of them said no and have been for the as i listen to the ones who said yes and would probably speak later about you know the the end of the mission but before going there. What did you learn. What lessons We've taken from the process itself that they know doing it for the second time. Hopefully not for the third time would make it bitter awfully. They'll you know. hopefully they'll be. Yeah after we lend the sick time. I mean successfully land on second so last time. We bought a silver medal from building. Beaks leaks extension. That's how i look at so things we blend so in the end equals down to taking few educated risks over the envy. he'll bring a mission to the moon. The shoes thing while delays that you'll have to pay a dowry a multi billion doll- mission day can can fold to mitigate in by the last mission was pretty good has achieved vessels the the coastal eight we possess. We spoke with a few over Really forefathers of the is facing the street in weeks before we launched the space goff one of the really be the guys who started the space program usual cold asleep nearly guys leave the spacecraft state. You wants it goes to meet. I wanna take my head to take my bowing of you. Duck rickles the spirit even before the launch because he throws love each guy into so many levels the things creative things don learn from the basque nation. I can't say that there was going to be a huge change. The way the mission will be on goes good way that we had it one thing. We're going to beat differently. The next Reveal but the next nation. We'll have done season. Put it that way to engage the chance of success now at what point in the journey of decided to turn space alien to quote unquote and education Or opening the door for young people and making me like something feeling so to so many young young young boys and girls to question. And i think that was one of our best business decisions so when we started space. Am when we enter the competition. The more than thirty teams at the will expire competition and most of them not all of will over commercial entities when we wanted to to the competition newsouth looking for donald vessels. One of the festival we've met will intimate couple in date on us. Something amazing they said. This is an amazing project. And you should be living leveraging the faithful think something even bigger than the morning you should live without making inning back on the next generation of buyer. And you're not gonna feel. My son said a big no result but this is a great idea in we decided to open space aid in multiple Notice a focused company. I think that was the best business decision to make because when you talk with investigators about sending spacecraft to the moon bills no commercial benefiting going to the auto mobile data competitors raising money through advertising Send your belong to the moon. Taking ashes of dead people owino doing all kinds of experiments for universities in nothing anyone's water in between talking about a potential donor about how can be settled. Make away without the basal. How can this week is social media. But the nation some Making that's face. I mo money dane all of the other competitors combined so you could take out hunting data into not both was the best business decision with remain the beginning in. In what way did you execute the The far off educating the young generation is it by training them whereas by visiting or lectures or so we need all of all more might go. The top wall was to make sure that once we launch and land. All the kids would be sitting Families in the classrooms depending on when we'll be landing or launching indeed be explaining families while the space golf is going to be doing. I don't meet all of them to become scientists and engineers. I need just a single kate for every cost. Think about going to science and engineering to make a u g back newsroom. And you saw that happening. We had kids all over these well. In huge events celebrating the launch and ben celebrating landing. We add on the day of the launch and landing every customer k twelve k twelve. Listen about-face ed. While the today or they're gonna do wising bulletin. The moon is the so we leave. You know reaching out those kids. I think we made gettable change. We won't the first doing the apollo times the us the moon landing in the american ninety. There will something Respectful or be Nobody doing the political. Realm is finding number over juniors scientists. The come the. Us in retaliated without from day. One and got started we we. We had a pro bono away piano company. The of accumulations in we asked multi the owner of the company multi who. What's happening for cash. We're gonna have a lot of disappointed. He said you're kidding me. It's going to be an amazing vince. How you clash billion not allowing succeeding. So that's another amazing lesson dribble giving away and he was like so basically you plan the crushing just to get more a viewers. You know we will happy after that. Gosh rob people now. Let's talk about the drone industry and fuel can like give me the basics about the. Where do we stand today. Withdrawn technology so the company i co founded the nine flex creation and we'll doing going deliveries and most specifically will go deliveries for retailers change. So the concept is that in a few years from now or a few weeks from now. Depending on radio relief you'll be able to proceed in your house. Older the apple jailable we know. You're next iphone in get it through the fifty minutes or less from the nearest shopping center cycle backyard just announced about a month ago about the ship toward we'll doing deliveries for warnock We started in fayetteville north carolina. One of the lock dogs. You can today toothpaste tomatoes. Whatever you need for more Saito backyard it's gonna be good the most efficient way the green astray in the quickest way to get anything you want as fast as you can always. That's what they flight is all about. But if an correct me if i'm wrong understand that dhamma zone has the seem has seeming ouray solution Probably awesome Technology is is it something that you see as the future of of delivering thousands of drones Moving from here to there like taxis if you wish Delivering packages from different. You're not in your house your head the meaning you agree to everything and saying yet it's Think about it today so leaving the typical covered if you can get on demand deliveries with companies like blobel ubereats bag if you bounce have macau but ways between donning to decide to get your mobile anything about ridiculous. That's a huge expense. Adult is twice weighs less than thirty pounds. You zip through the air Interruptions a diving when devote the only thing that separates us between that between two now dot future relations. Any the bus steals we've been working with the faa disability Usa responsible the presidential initiated after an executive order from the white house in we walking the fam making bethany -ality so we'll starting slow and it's going to go. It's gonna be huge. You've got companies like amazon pushing Four thousand on competition. Once they stop doing his full amazon navy. What else would meet the solution. The fifteen years ago doing getting all those online on the web people laughed about companies lied. Data's jokes in newport happen in today's details looking on the other side equation perfume inside themed muslim. Talking dogs i was on spending something like one hundred million bottles unwilling on the door boggling so each occasion number in the Looking at nap and the themselves when we don't wanna be out of cohesion again get So to following questions one is we have roads. We have a stoplights. We have all the ways to control those breaks or those cars that are carrying this tiny hamburger you mentioned but what about this guy going to have thousands of vehicles travelling How do you make sure that they are not Colliding or i dunno also the delivering to the wrong place. So bill i have some useful. You already have thousands of weeks flanked about your way. We seven eighty seven has a full blown and setting joe neighborhood. Guess what is gonna be your neighborhoods for them if known as a problem. We've got multiple levels of redundancies. I've got a pash shoots. And you've got forbids bashing your backyard. So that's one aspect. The other aspect is the topic management humans communicating oval radio channels back from the ninety nine thousand full man. That's like the early twentieth century technology on the other hand according to communicate digitally everything's gonna be computerized by by algorithms as only working about we'd nassau conducting allow Vehicles e v via simultaneous will while i'm cruising in the air i'm quieter than a seven point eighty seven. You can't really feel him flying buzzing bobbio house so gonna be much more efficient quiet today. Okay it seems very logical and it seems straightforward. What about another question. I have relating to well. If it's a rural. Larry i understand you know. There is a farm the drone flyover. But what about the skyscraper. Were you have like seven hundred people in the same place and you need to deliver to the fortieth floor. Are you going to knock on my window or are you going to drop it. The basement also currently neither the. Us has most of its population in leaving invite houses. We're talking about more than seven comedian. Backyards will the completion density invest on density isn't enough to justify humans doing those things so why aim it. Major cities will use fin season. Bad good enough to delivery rooftop of the building. Just believe saito backyard's backyards northern something. That's something that you don't have today. Something ducts seventy much better on every aspect than what you can get today. Skyscrapers maybe in a few years. But courtney lee. but. I don't have to grow billy kubota. Wait like if it's a hamburger. I understand what about. It's you know. Sometimes we go to the grocery with more than just one hamburger another frigerator your background. Anything soon tv co theory. According to what we saw from amazon publications can awfully ninety percent of the packages amazon goes these days so we can backing mostly especially talking about deliveries. If he's bigger than yes he wouldn't be able to. That's all you know. That's the the that so the typical package. Okay and what about you know. Where can you deliver. Soft things like eggs or a thing that can break. And we all believe in gigs for more folks So while flawlessly we by taking coffee staubach's we buy from daily cream. That's like build version of mcshea. Follow folks it's can think about it a lot more delegates the guy diving his. Call your package in the package seats on the of than when blake's toes down or is dog seat sunny for something like that. So real we much will go for radio bag repackaged than anyone else. We don't dopey backout recovered up to sell migos or more than sixty feet up in the air and reload the package on a wire slowly to the gum in you can just pick it up. Released can just pick it up from formula backyard so much whether you extents and it's much nicer vote we are fold the food Security or cybersecurity when it comes to law to drones is something that always fascinates me and probably somehow some of our audience and for sure hollywood which are using drones. Now win many movies. So how do you protect the drone. How do you make sure that the the drones indeed what is coming from where i was expecting. And he's not bringing something that was not expecting. When you know you could send something that's illegally. Fedex package someone brigade that package so he beats even though we don't talked about the. It's about what people do. You also agreed with private individuals. You have a professional team. Abating the fleets downloading packages. Those five inches come full retailers or westland chains. The operato itself can choose the point on a map. Everything is known solely by the system. Only house we still back on beyond own investigating bottom so he eats available to my system. You wanna do something illegal unlawful. It's easier to go buy a toy or simply known from the white ball then that you could really fly. Anybody wants and do naughty suffering. We will be the least of the concerns of every everyone because we company folks with regulators so in general not specific to you guys. What are the risks in in in drone technology or in this If everything you know everything is control of we can is nice was probably the ariz. Yes oh you have to take into account the authorities in usually. When he comes goes they care about three things will. They're afraid of playthings safety. Five asean noise those albeit. The major frequency does on safety survey automated system spills. Normally the air. The door multi identifies that back. We have multiple redundancies on every level in those independent again shall down the morals fight abolish shoots in sound desire. So it's really very redundancies. Them but a safe one. We go through forces together we defend elevation room station. Forever seven. It's really treated like generalization beagle. We will getting commercial diepsloot That's the same kind of certification that bowling gets We're talking with the same things. Different risk categories because we weightless but it's still the same voices very lengthy one takes between in five years. Need the shoes on the faa that you know what you're doing in the wilderness of the vehicle is is is self fine so that's the of safety. Remember the alternative in this case the minimum wage guy diving for ten hours in one call diving fifty five miles but always one hundred kilometers. Maybe being sleep last night maybe blank something maybe a viking fan maybe tech single. Can't these some phone at the next stop has to do in ducks like a hundred times. What we scaled automated system handled of the wage depends. Sometimes after he drinks he goes and invents a new start of space. I am he does that boy. Walking in. that's one. That's that's okay if he's driving on highway that's that's a note that good young even today. We'll get just getting started by theft insurance. What newburgh live the baseball. He's insurance and go down humans. I'm getting any better. My goal was safety. Indentified lazy realized that. That's going to be a major concern. We don't have any comments on board. No reason essentials in that way issues. Joseph record-low Showed videos images because he does have the capability in duck hunting. Bats the fa by the only designed without the camera. If i wanna Enough to certify something he can just Camping skoda come on seventy seven just because you want to via a noise levels. We go through at a noise. Level measurement was with the faa. We'd say organization that does outcome. They'll be out while we bring them to make sure that we quiet again. From what seeing today reload quieter than anything else you think about the ability without stopping bio house. That's a lot more. Noisier than dole novelty insulting. Those sixty seventy eight defeat feet up in the air for half a minute. Why knowing the package on a wire quieter than anything else. You've mentioned delivery is the first outcomes of this technology. What other fields do you see drums. Can they can affec- so we'll think bones going based long into a reconnaissance when you wanna have a noble view of what's happening in an area from firefighting to Defense and homeland security issues are just doing a big inspection in monitoring real estate agents using the Images of the over new house over help from say you also seen entering agricultural song being used the colts. We've now you'll seeing though using owns the big enough to sell spain domes with Buzzfeed's feeds with decides. I think those will be areas where we seeing those other than these. Other areas are used of away blinds in pipelines and other infrastructure inspection as well as monitoring a mind garryowen mining fields. Those kinds of things also solos being used A solo bundles of knowledge solo. bundle volumes. those kinds of things. Where you have a fast at that. You can have not made it system replacing humans. This is fascinating and the if you know if i compare it to any other field you have a range of products like in mobile devices. And then he went into smart devices better cameras that they're you know Power and stuff. What's what's the difference in drums question and each one we on use case so dole. That's gonna take images of an area. It could be much longer than flagstone. Epa credit payload it needs to comment is bald protected from vibrations or moving vehicles at a very different machine. Even if you talk about believings not all deliveries is the same and you can tho. Talk about golf based vehicles. If i told you that. I'm doing golf deliveries those a huge difference between a semi talk doing a west coast to coast the delivery in a guy on a bike. Doing the legally in manhattan. The bowl doing deliveries but each one is doing invaded from delivered. So he takes the same even within bold and got companies. Don't have any kickback. Companies like Doing i bend reach role model. James show thanks to people's backyards then you've got companies but the into sending delivering medical supplies hundred by away. That's a very different pokemon technology of the vico abune economics of the marketing business. It's very become gob versus ups. The both who believes but very much differently. If you can you let yourself kind of Do the same thing you've done with space but in the with the drawn is a fee and look like five ten years ahead. What future do you envision to this industry. So i think it's going to bring us especially during the liberties to narrow instant gratification. And if years from now you're gonna have a shopping list a grocery to remember fifteen years ago you don't amazon and you added item. Seal cock cocktails leading off you. You checked out. Delivery was causing any wanted to under the items. We folding you them today. Reality by nobody nobody. I'd i can go to shopping list. You just kicked by now. You can do that the few times everyday. Don't really care goes on made next day delivery so cheap. Don't really care about that. I think we we're gonna make on demand. Cheapest is next legally so instead of having Released because you have to go out there and going to the grocery store in style you know going through the speaking of the items obey five ten fifteen bucks that legally in scheduled out the weekend advance a few years. If i'm gonna meet tomatoes for dinner. I just get all the windows if a bunch of coming gullible because Nineteen gone. they can come in. I need a bottle of wine just over a bottle of wine. I think that's the Ducks welby a few taymiyya to take on bob. Once we get out a unique economic down a few bucks he really. That's why we'd be very interesting and fascinating for sure I'm always happy that we're living in such a dynamic future present. I i saying by face. Sifi Douglas us send the future is to here just not sporadically over goto fees. Yep where near the end than i would like to come back to To space and ask you maybe two things first of all. What are you doing now. It's basically in terms of what is the mission in are you now targeting the second round so yes not working on the second phase gulf saw can discuss yet. But it's going to be more ambitious Fest will be better on the second thing. That's why we meet Exposed out a whole by game of the year in benguela. Everybody would be to see what replanning we already south leading the fundraising over there will be full people to join us on the journey to the morning. And it's one heck of a journey hopefully Stein where we'll get the middle road be gold medals. Yeah and if you look the same thing about the future of space travel if you wish while you see coming up are ending the coming few years so i think it's all about the end you feel talking about big face measham. It's all about the money the budget we've got people planning to sending humans to mouse. You can't really do that. As a commercial company does make sense. You can go bowling. Billiard ball devoted members i'm gonna spend down to being dullsville. Lemme have been tomasz in revenue so drew hundreds of readings over news to capitalism on percent of the mission. So i think we're gonna see a lot more botic missions because the goes down smaller entities just wouldn't be able to do space missions and we already see that happen happening Kind but now you've got companies in organizations during the facing ships so that's gonna grow condemns of sending humans. Think be out those are gonna take awhile leading no commercial benefiting sending humans out there. It's going to be held to justify those budgets. It's going to be mostly research projects in the end. Too many entities capable of doing that. This project usually day longer than commercial projects though we spoke a lot about the flight industry and we spoke about space and spoke about drones. Any other feed that. The is emerging alto those areas that we should look out. I think we pretty much Most of it. was a pleasure. i really enjoyed the talk. Like thank you for the diamond. And i thank you for Having patients walk us through it yariv all the best best of luck to you in the team and looking forward for your next mission. Thank you. I was like leisure and don't forget to like us on facebook space. Am that way you'll be the first ones to know about. Thanks for listening to future of tech if you like what you heard and want more. Make sure to subscribe on apple podcasts. 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Practical Magic

The Bechdel Cast

1:13:09 hr | 1 year ago

Practical Magic

"Network guess what they don't do annual contracts what unlimited data means unlimited data holy cow and you know what else they don't have his physical phone stores because the future of phone service is here and it's called visible for forty bucks a month all in you get unlimited data messages and minutes on Verizon's four G lt my sludge identifies as a man because vengeful trying to ruin your life and invading my body and space and only a man surgery yes I'm about to have my sludge pouch removed listen is probably it'll be gone I maker cartoon of like you're seeing like don't make me wait before humanized mice points and I think all of that past the Bechtel Test Oh yes it did while great structure so we analyze actually Korean episodes if you're a member of our our patron Aka Matron yeah no but today we're doing a main feed episode in the bed which is weird because well recording situation today which is kind of Nice yeah let's talk about it we're in her bed were in my bed which is where we usually record the major I used to be in a loose right in the bet but now I'm like no button up not all the buttons but a couple of them I think this will be nice sort of blend of the silly we have a guest we don't have one this time because we were about to record with our guest and then something came up but we weren't able to reschedule with them because I'm about to go into my gallbladder but it's really a sludge pouch and if you need more information about what I'm talking about you'll just simply have to listen to sludge and American healthcare story my podcast about Hello and welcome to the Becca cast my name is Caitlin durant in my name is Jamie lofted and this is our podcast about the portrayal of women in movie Jasper Becker del cast listeners that's visible dot com slash. TB see on the back door cast questions asked movies have women and is love the anthropomorphic wait before you behead me Doctor I'll just watch my case s that we engage in a bit more on the matron but also perhaps a bit more structured like a main feed episode life is so complicated so normal his or as I like to see the be trail of in movies sometimes don't you think I agree we have kind of an unusual like she asked for your address so maybe maybe she's GonNa get she's GonNa show up she's GonNa use her jetblue points good for Jill he loves her how the system here is very fucked up and biased and broken so give that a listen but we weren't able to reschedule with our guest before Meister injury so as Jamie and I doing the bed keeping latest but not to lose yeah and this is the last sludgy episode of the are all their discussions boyfriend has been do do they have individualism the Patriarchy FM fast start changing with the Becca del cash and do and it is nice too because it just means that well inherently miss it less anyway only in today's it'd be fun he is S. sometimes called the battle Wallace test as a jumping off point for discussion and the Bechtel test as a couple different requirements uh-huh for more than two lines of dialogue incredible it's almost like with all those steps it's almost like it's like a spell a spell book it's true Oh wow well what if my sludge is like a witch in like being wrongfully persecuted or a curse I wonder how many times has been set in movies it has to be a lot like it's a spell or curse practical magic in Lansing Michigan last year as a part of the capital city film festival is a show called destroy all cinema and cast which I think we're all very grateful for its sledge free after this my mom send a unit edible arrangements we're tying this earlier I was like well I don't know yeah it requires that there be two female identifying characters with names we'll talk to each other about something other than a man or mail sledge of course history with practical magic this is one of those movies that I wasn't very familiar with throughout most of my life but I knew that it was something that we were getting requested all the time I was riffing live riffs you love to hear him on on practical magic which I hadn't seen with a comedy collective based out of Lansing called comedy covered I'm from listeners so I was like oh I should check this out because eventually I'm sure we'll do episode on it so I watched it probably for the first time I would say like around a year ago along request yeah it's just the two of us today we're keeping Lucilla let's get into it what's your history with the film Jamie so I I confusing but I also do get why people love it so yeah for sure I think if I had seen it as a younger person I would have a much stronger attachment there's a lot of Halloween Time D. comes that probably were used that well we're talking about practical magic today as into it and a pretty iconic cast as well like it's quality regardless getting to see Sandra Bullock Nicole Kidman as sisters rules diet well no I was not a Harry Potter stand as a child I thought I was like a practical magic kind of okay because I had I have to relatives lives who run a new age shop in Massachusetts is very steeped in its from a very young age like the one that Sally runs in the movie yeah it's a few live in that area please check them out nearly coven also coven of witches perhaps exactly it consists of Tricia Chamberlain Stephanie Honor Channon like scratching the surface of that culture in kind of a very basic way that I think probably would have been appealing to me had I seen it at the time but mystical magical or anything like that really appealed to me is something that I would want to like embrace is anything other than fiction like I love Ryan fiction about it but I was get into it I mean I don't know what was your actually I am curious what was your interest in which culture and stuff like that when you were younger were you really only like semireligious structure that empowered you a little bit and gave you some control as opposed to the shame and the constant asking for realize movies using the Bechtel tasks which I think we will we brought up the mail identifying a lot of it past yes so use the Bechtel's it's like it was a completely secular household so I had no religion growing up in I think because of that I just nothing like supernatural or like Oh and glad I did you know it's a fun movie and his a weird movie weird it's structurally yeah we still use their Stockard channing as there and a young Evan Rachel Wood Oh yeah yeah the one of the daughters so there is I mean I more in terms of like religion and like shaping as self-identity but I really love it and and it's funny because I think that this movie is kind of peak and she was banished on an island with her unborn child for being a witch and she stayed there waiting for her lover to come rescue have magical powers the first of them was their ancestor Maria from colonial Puritan Times yes it was weird I think that like we just went because my parents were like we're supposed to do that but like I went to Catholic churches for a little while I went to like Congregational Church for a little while I try to be funny because it was just like I don't know what's happening to curse and then I've seen it a couple times to prep for this but pretty short history okay cool what's piqued my interest will what about you I thought I was a witch until I was about eleven years old is very fun and not a Harry Potter which as all listener to the podcast yeah I'm always just anytime that there is a movie with which is I'm like Oh yes because my mom fully was like Euro which you have powers man who would love an owens woman and not hearse will occur and it will straight up kill them that's so cool yeah there is cool the Greg thinking you were which can't recommend it enough it is very fun my like family 'cause I was effectively raised as an atheist emily surgery they're all great I I saw it in a in a live capacity and it was kind of fun to try to piece together this movie in real time and then there Mondays I guess shortly after that of a broken heart so the two sisters go to live with their two aunts Verani that Stockard channing scared you her but he never came so she cast a spell that she would never again phil the agony of love which eventually turned into a curse on any it's a very confusing movie but everyone is committed one hundred percent and so we simply have no choice but Stan yes yeah shall we yesterday it no not not I would say it all I wasn't like I hate it and I think it's stupid or anything like that it just isn't something that ever then we meet to Owens sisters as children sally and Jillian their father died because of this curse there's like this beetle that comes forgiveness that from the other religions it experienced where like this was like oh it's like you know you're being empowered to you know whether you're casting spells are doing what rules or whatever it is like you have some ability to cause change and make things happen interesting so there's a whole discussion to be had eatings Madurai and we're very nurture I think it's weird 'cause I like grew up going to church but I think that like new age stuff was what appealed to me says she hopes she never falls in love because she sees how much agony it causes people sally cast a spell loves bell about a man who right this imaginary man can flip pancakes his favorite shape is a star and he has one green eye and one blue eye which Ah yes okay so we get to know the two girls a little bit better Jili can't wait to fall in love but in Sally and like I was like this is going to be a part of my lifestyle or anything like that totally I think what appealed about it to me as a kid especially was like I didn't like going she thinks will never exist because he doesn't exist she won't have to fall in love with him and then he won't die and she won't have to deal with a broken heart yeah except like having even more so but it was they do not work there anymore but yeah like my aunt and uncle worked at a new age shop it would do was something more clever kids are geniuses Kayla's sorry there should have been an Shakespearean pros there pentameter I mean my parents and my uncle called it paganism I don't know if this technically even falls under that umbrella but what appealed to me when appeal to me about which he culture was that it was the it kind of about witches witchcraft the history there in all that Oh yeah we we can we'll get there for now let's discuss the story got to the sisters as adults sally is Sandra Bullock Jili is Nicole Kidman and Jili runs away with this guy that she's in love let's do it okay so we begin learning that women in the Owens family are witches and the or kissing in the street a faith hill song is playing is this kiss yes one of the many moment this movie is totally all over is just completely totally inconsistent to the just like constantly suffer her and Jet Dianne wiest and their ons are also which is who teach them magic they live somewhere in New England I was guessing either whole family for being which which which year a bid you're like let's punch that up or it doesn't pass the Bechtel test though maybe does in meters very sensitive sometimes I'm just like how did you come on there's a few but what I mean you do watch a lot of big little eyes so that makes sense I'm from whiplash from the previous seeing Faith Hill I think is one of the first all best second of all most jarring like this is supposed to be like ashes being directed but it's like it's like sort of at bay really I wasn't noticing that but also there's certain I don't know I guess my Nicole Kidman like oh I mean I feel like there are people out there like that like I think she kind of a low yeah like I mean I guess the findings with two different colored eyes is is a little more certainly fall in love almost as face speller or Yak occurs the South the American south and not New England so yeah I it was it was a choices were made or difficult minimum pant legs pancakes and stars that's like you're describing a five year old like on a but sure yes so then we is just like man there were three writers on this movie and we couldn't we couldn't do better than which which you're a bitch kids are like not smart enough to come up rounded makes the chirping sound and that's how the man is going to die soon right I love that plot device I don't know like a beetle or something so cut to a few years later Sally Michael are married they have two daughters but that death beadle starts coming around are they think they've live on an island I think that they might live like an anti yeah that's what I was thinking it it it was giving me some nantucket vibes I would say where I just wasn't really there sure you know I just know that one okay so the Beatles Chirping and sally's husband gets hit by a truck and dies in a very dramatic the fruit flying in that scene because he's a fruit salesman and it's slow sure I wouldn't describe faith hill that artist will especially because like if you hear country music like that it conjures up yeah and and she you know the end of the first season for some reason she's just like I'm Australia and it was like okay we know but you're not supposed to be right now turn into a beetle and then Oh yes it's the same what if beetlejuice and practical magic take place in the same extended universe I would buy it Israel and it's why my husband died and then they revealed that they had cast a spell on the two of them to make them fall in love and she's like even more winded quote normal life essentially the nuclear family right yes and then sally spots this Guy Michael and she and him Sir Omo fruit and then we're like oh no her love killed him because women's emotions are Lee if they do that he'll come back all dark in a natural so sally just has to accept what has happened and she is grieving and then she decides to stop doing magic right meanwhile Jili has been traveling around she's partying she's meeting a bunch of people he's got yes and she tells them to bring him back from the dead because there which is they have the ability to do that but they refuse because better Martha's vineyard surprise it didn't take place in like Salem but who knows you know and everyone in the town hates the wig on an classic Kidman Wig I I've got a shot out of we'll do it in a second but there was recently a power ranking of all of Nicole's with Nicole Kidman in terms of having her Australian accent not out it's so different from movie to movie to the point where I'm like is it like a depend kind of like a you know like you kind of expect a more Fiona apple liaison they're like at least like an artist with some more mysterious which e vibes owed ends nineties banks and I love it definitely and I think right now she's in Arizona with this Guy Jimmy Angel Love Aw God well anyways fructose lion yes bye bye so then sally goes to her aunt's and she's like this curse here it won't matter right so they go back to the aunt's house they do the spell they put the lime in the coconut etc by Sangita Kurtz and it's a ranking of all of her wigs based on this list it does seem like she is usually wearing a wig even when it seems attack I I don't I don't think it's a bad choice but I do like as with most things in this movie like Fisher I there on the whig rank I mean I'm just using this okay I've visited this a few days ago this is from cues dot com bury him in the backyard but they decide not to tell the ONS right but Jimmy's spirit starts haunting them and he ruins their midnight she's not including in like I thought that was her natural hair in Moulin Rouge apparently it is not it is a wig Oh so I just go off the assumption that Nicole Kidman is always wearing so Gillian has the idea that they cast the spell on him to bring him back to life and since he's already dark in unnatural they tells him the Jimmy Kidnapped Jili but they got away using his car because they like have his car and he's like why his car in your driveway and they're like Oh yeah thank because there are children upstairs in their school remaining scream but like and then they're immediately sober in in one moment there like laughing and not sure who turns out to be abusive so sally goes to rescue Jili from him but he kidnaps them both and holds them hostage so they drug him uh-huh egg what if she is bald underneath making her the ball this woman in charge I would explain so much really it sure would be kept but anyway she's got she's got intense in the spell curse they're like wait Gary you like pancakes like oh it's that he can find Sally's spell book or Curse Book and they find that the spell of the made up man that she made when she was little Carita night rude rude the got one of the most the most iconic scene of this movie yes and the most totally dissident I him but accidentally overdosed kill him a mere like all my God what are we gonNa do we're going to go to jail the cops won't believe it self defense yeah I would I wish that Faith Hill's on play during beetlejuice with another faith hill song I can't name one I don't nothing against like what the fuck is happening and then the sisters kill the spirit or at least they think they do cars area there and then Sally tells Gary that she had cast this spell when she was a little girl and she's like that's why you're here finds Jimmy's ring because a frog barf sit up which he loved to see good practical effect practical magic Brunell or is it a curse oh keeps getting okay so then Whoa look at that cinema knowledge and then he's like you ladies are in big trouble you'd better get a lawyer Gary got honestly setting a pretty low bar for for the dream man and then Gary Guy who has the is the pancakes the stars yeah and they start to realize that Gary has all of those traits that she described this Guy Gary shows up real is a detective investigating the disappearance of Jimmy Angel of yeah and Sally gets flustered in accidentally Lytham you're a he doesn't even like them which can flip in Yay and then she notices that he has one green eye and one blue eye and she's like no I can't and then Jimmy's spirit shows up and Gary is what is but they're like but we don't know where he is so gary keeps hanging around town he's trying to gather information and then Sally's daughters ear and we'll never know if this is even true love or if it's just the spell curse thing and he's like I don't believe in curses I wished for you to and we're like Sally Decides to tell him the truth which she she sort of does except that she's speaking in riddles and they start kissing they need a coven of twelve women to banish this spirit right so sally who has been made like the top of or that happens right then and then he'd comes back but he is aggressive and he starts choking Jili so they knock him out and then dancing and having a good time and then the next moment they're like calling each other sluts and witches they like and then the lane requires for them to be stone cold sober even aw Mike but then we find out the Jimmy's spirit is still around and has possessed Jili ABC's eight to go to those Oh if you're ready to learn more switch to visible head divisible dot com slash TB see to get twenty dollars off your first month service when you sign up and in an exclusive special ever came into Wig's not wearing a movie at leagues may not know at her hair is not that was I thought that was her natural hair in this movie we'll have a talk about it so Julie runs away with this guy but meanwhile sally wants to have like a more like ground turpin sorry I am thanks what if beetlejuice we just saw them being fully blackout drunk you know it's just it is what it is we just have to buy which is they can they cast a spell the the call tree at her daughter's school because Jili cast a spell to maker that right so she calls all all the moms from her daughter's school to come help and be a part of this coven and together they exercise Julia and kill Jimmy's ghost and sweep hey everyone it's Jamie here to talk to you about third love bras literally the only kind of Bras I mean we've kind of revisited these late nineties classic mistakes over and over but this movie is certainly guilty of it as well yeah another thing good that is the story so let's take a quick break and then we'll come right back to discuss Yay. This is very very typical but I think it is kind of especially glaring when you're tackling the subject of witches and being kind of other eighty sizes including signature half-cup sizes for all my friends who are a cup and then some parentheses pointy and it's super convenient So yeah I just wanted to mention that right at the jump of like I love which ye representation but it is just the jump is the this movie is an extremely white movie as are most movies still but particularly I mean in the late ninety s this accused of being which is just as much as white women but as is normal with American history the struggle of women of color with the exist I and this is less of a kind of historical eraser thing and more of just like I suppose metaphorical or just you'd for for that because just historically is worth mentioning that women of Color and specifically black women have been ushered in that's third love dot com slash T B C for fifteen percent off today and we're back well come back oh boy there's there's you take the quiz the fit finder quiz online you order it you try it on at home no more aggressive I contact with someone who is respectfully fondling you it's also hands not extended to Women who are not white in American movies very often even I mean I think that our other main which movie we've covered the craft that I wear they have perfect fit third love uses data points generated by millions of people who have taken the fit finder quiz designed bras with size and shape in mind there's one of the witches in that movie is black but she's criminally underwritten yeah and just done a disservice by the movie as a whole and the focus is always on the white girls axiom issues compounded with race or kind of generally erased from the narrative and I think that we see that in virtually every story about the Salem we then Gary Kiss because Gary comes back and then I've always been fun and they fly off the roof 'cause it's Halloween offering our listeners fifteen percents off your first order so go to third love dot com slash TV see now to find your perfect fitting Bra and get fifteen percent off your first purchase a lot to discuss as per use her usage so I mean something that I I wanted to sort of get out there right at trials to like there were also women were killed and demonize during the witch trials and yet most of the narrative that we see are focused on white ladies so on the most comfortable Bra I've ever had the straps don't slip there's tag labels it doesn't H it's great and third nosers a perfect bra for everyone so right now they're off and whispering about me about how I'm a witch well it's true so she affectively comes out and then a scene right after that is Chisolm bitches Yep and then there's a moment toward the end as sally is like calling the phone tree and she's like hey you know that thing that everyone's been borrowing or maybe even appropriating this experience that we thrust upon queer people a bird in that we put upon them because of how Hetero sort of like a thing that happens in the narrative but so the Owens women are they're always other right by the community who has like cast them out and called them with has like her colleague at like the like which shop that should he runs that characters like did you hear Sally just came in what Sally is doing I thought was pick Yulia at best it was just another Bizarro miscast there it is largely about women at least of the characters that we get to know the most supporting each other they do not have the support of their community until the very out which of course is language used for queer like when they're also aware of that yeah and so it's like taking the like and but even that's nice when the moms who have been like you know making snide comments and casting them out of the community they yeah we're not the best choices to be made yeah so there's yeah there's definitely a lot of issues income to help a woman in need so I liked it it's largely about like women supporting women sisters supporting sisters on there's three generations normative society is and it's like well if you don't if you are not Hetero than it is your burden responsibility to come out and then to describe that too I did like what was the objective of this scene so yeah that those are a couple of things right off the right at the top what is what did you like about this what did you feel this movie did well well there's a fair amount because it is a predominantly female cast yes kinds of sisters and which is cool cool they're all living together they're all practicing witchcraft I like that they also make mistakes which is a trope that drives me insane and I mean every every woman in this movie is human rights as well as being a witch and and used was a moment that it was like oh that's like a real you know like that was oh that's like a beautiful thing that actually felt in a movie that does not feel grounded in reality at all like more grounded good moment and and and I know that it's like you know we're not endorsing murder here but it's not like the like the perfect female friendships that we sort of see in movies where they're like you know women can only be friends and connected if they do it perfectly and where where does this scene where Sandra bullock is staring at her husband's grave I miss you so fucking much you're very different but the I don't know just even like the little touch of like they can feel they can instinctively know and the other person is in trouble aw especially when Jillian even though they have like their differences and conflicts it Sally is Julie's I call when she is being we should do another episode on the I feel like with the benefit of a year and a half I'm like I think I think there's more to say business that they show and I mean I was even getting some Thelma and Louise Vibes from this movie yeah sure it's it's like mistakes that the aunts make the well intentioned mistake of being like but we wanted you to have love in your life she's like well now my husband is dead of honor and then they're keeping that promise which are like Oh that's so it's so nice and it makes me cry to think of it also like we were stupid tween like ten and twelve where we were like oh well if we get married someday we have the other day we won't choose a maid of honor both of you will be my maid assault or anything like that but this movie is if Bellman Louise were which is and Susan in Susan into one application in the real world but I do like that like intense loyalty and trust and belief of each other for sure that he's been make a pact right like they must die at the same time like if we're GONNA Die GonNa die I love childhood patch and the people who take them seriously nothing else we see that's very troubling and movie which is women hating each other for no re- irrational and neither of those things happen in this movie right which is great and I especially do I mean and there are appropriate he things that happened inside of this relationship but I do like the relationship between Sally and Julie I liked it of a Geisha and curious case of Benjamin Button She's written a lot interesting she was one of the Writers House was Akiva Goldsman don't really know her background contemplate going to the police sang it was self defense they know they won't be believed so they have to take matters into their own hands and that's pretty much what we Brooks Adam Brooks at has credits including Wimbledon Bridget Jones the edge of reason okay go off King I let's see screenwriters were Robbins Weicker d- Yes Robin Swicord is very cool she has a lot of iconic movies directed by John Dean's nephew Oh so if not feminist icon icon adjacent to be sure Griffin Don Griffin Dunne yeah and it was written that you know their bond is so strong and Sally General I mean she believes Jili like they it's Sally's annoyed that Julie's in this predicament whichever including little women which will be covering the cast soon mathilde the Jane Austen Book Club and she wrote she helped who's one of the credited writers on memoirs wouldn't written co written by two men one woman but it's based on a novel by a Woman Alice Hoffman who is an icon in that she lives in Boston did the police but they're like the police won't believe us uh-huh because police often do not believe women if they're being you know they're victims of thing is necessarily fair but she is also like I obviously believe you and if we gotTA kill this guy we're going to kill this guy you know which you know there's not a one uh-huh so much but then I like the inverse of like these like perfect see male friendships or relationships is it just because it was a redhead and Brunette with inseparable blunt because they all they kill a man they oh that's true they have to they think about going lot of popular books I don't I don't really know I would be curious to see to know how this strays from the from the book but I'm not sure yeah I have not read as per usual I fall asleep so yeah I mean other things to to like about this movie thing are that what do whatever you want it's really hard to twice but it's just the Israel his background he wrote Bam Forever Batman and Robin I robot I am legend Cinderella man so this is kind of an outlier in his catalogue okay sure and then the final writer was I mean yeah it's just it's just largely story about women supporting each other because as you as you already pointed out its Sally Helping Jili with her as of boyfriend like it's just no questions asked she just like drops everything gets on the next flight and goes to help her then we we see the scene Brandin falls in love with the Harvey Keitel character so I thought that hairy age FRUW and knee kill they kill an abuser the wow a lot of signed alice Hoffman's locally Swish but she's she's a she's written Jili learns that Sally is never picked at the top of the phone tree chain thing at her daughter's school she goes and cast that spell that Mackillop Predator it is very cathartic fund to watch specially when it's a frosty tip loser like Jimmy Angel uh-huh my cut like me and my two cousins were so so we all thought we were witches this was like in the same time and we made a pact we were like those kind of on par for how sisters there but like yeah it did feel like there wasn't really a value judgment placed on either of them even by the movie right Sally wanted the more traditional nuclear family unit lifestyle but like neither of them ever judged the other for the they wanted there are some like light teasing which take the Charlotte and the Samantha Right which but but I feel like what will normally happen which doesn't here which is great is that the that she's at the top it's very very lovely like the portrayal of motherhood I thought was lovely and or you know just female gradient ship in general and like this is just how this carrots chosen to live and both of them and it's also like 'cause I you know like a red flag that I would immediately assume because they are kind of fund one quote unquote is either mocked or punished in some way for being you know like sexually active which is such a you know age old trope doc podcast haven't read a book so sorry but if you do have insight feel free to offer it in the common edmonds character ends up with his abuser who then kill and then she doesn't like get another guy at the end but great yeah which is great the The sisters the Sisterhood is I I do love in in movies when two women a band together is that Nicole Kidman the sexually active independent you know left her hometown one is the one that ended up in a relationship with an abuser whereas sally who wants the nuclear family gets one horrible abuser is kind of like and he's like to the point where you're like I don't even know that the writers were consciously making that at this this nice lady she had a husband and yes he died because the beetle was there but also then he gets she gets she gets to fall in love with this other Guy Oh love with full gear a truly had hips though he definitely spiritually had them that's true and it's and you know maybe this movie's a little less gracefully written but the but all the main points were there this this is also like kind of unrelated but this only ended up with a sweetie pie who loved her but then was hit by a truck because she loved him too much right but then also like because Nicole since and if you've read a book feel free to tweet at us in Brag about it because it ain't easy has long has Nicole Kidman although it is she's the one that ends up I think the only difference is the men that they end up with at least briefly it a huge number of guided meditations you can listen to to help you in a variety of areas like reducing stress getting motivated to start your day feeling energized I feel like that's almost maybe like ninety s narratives kind of punishing her maybe arguably for like you yes you had a shot and you messed it up as I love that they're different but you know they're in kind of like tropy different of like this is the fun one and this is the one that wants family like it's basically it they both I mean they both get into pretty deep shit in like the I don't think that necessarily one of them is more screwed over than the other because it's Caitlyn and even though the patriarchy is still all around us I feel great and it's because I've been using simple habit simple habit is an APP was shins are short as short as five minutes so if you're thinking I don't have time to sit down and meditate for an hour every day guess what you can do it in five minutes and you can do it when you're commuting or and we're back I can't believe you cast so many spells or were they curses during that that break they were curses also you know like people in who desire nuclear family it's not like they don't sometimes end up in abusive relationships and you know reinforcing the idea that every I am a 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TPC Weekly Your family is impervious to abuse and conflict as Jiri Hollywood narrative that you're so yes maybe we are over I also liked it they were very different as he's already said also like they had very different lifestyle like Julius all about like going on fucking a bunch of people it seems whereas since with the premium subscription so simple habit dot com slash TB see to get thirty percent off for the first fifty listeners and don't forget the premium subscribe I liked what would you like to discuss next kind of continuing a little bit off of the run the value judgment but it does sort of when you're in over analysis like the aren't great and of course like you and I don't see like analyzing it a little bit but it's how we feel sorr- jaw okay that's our job that's why you pay zero dollars to listen okay yeah is not necessary and probably didn't need to be in the movie my guess is this is a studio notes relationship ninety eight considers Hetero relationship between two boring people the best the best the best that you can expect from life so yeah and and and having to deal with this abuser they kill him accidentally again we don't endorse murder on the that ends up being a weird thing where he like stops doing his job as a criminal investigator because of this spell that occur then I feel that the romantic storyline between Sandra Bullock's character. Sally and Aidan Quinn Gary or I feel I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the original the novel and it was just adopted that way I a hard to say we can't make that call it all happens handled just as well and effectively had there not been this romantic storyline wedged in because it was like just a distraction I guess Aidan Quinn is here whatever I don't know I wasn't a big fan of that either I thought that I would I would have liked a little more audie we don't know what happened but my job as a criminal investigator I'm just put that on the back burners using in love with this woman it does feel like and like his character ultimately it feels like an attempt at raising stakes because he's brought in like oh no now there's someone on their tail but yeah he's kind of like the way his character a woman getting a relationship as a reward the way that like a lot narratives but this but this mayor narrative does see as a reward every movie in nineteen it just doesn't because he's immediately like there's there's like chemistry between them you're like he doesn't seem like a particularly like difficult obstacle like I don't know right the fact also that one of the huge vehicles that drives this whole narrative is the treated like Oh like you don't get the feeling that if he finds out he's going to be like you're going to jail like it doesn't really heightened the stakes that much is it for we do outside of navigating around this curse that I think is also inherently like there's something loaded in there to where the his dust out of the house because women be cleaning sweep but also which imagery brooms true and then sally move things with their minds that's cool but you really only oversee their magic in practice as it is related to men as it is related to Oh fine but the fact that then he and sally end up in a relationship didn't work crummy news never even like a particularly aw little plot spells that we were like ooh that's stirring her coffee with ray magic like basic kind of stuff they are like okay they can is that was like one of the things on this re watch where you're like we really only with some exceptions like there's a little spell that she does at the school there's like small yes so that's like yeah I totally see what you're saying and the fact that Sandra bullock gets date to grade guys and Nicole Kidman idea that all men who ever loved these women will die to sort of you know like goes into that sort of nasty trope that just means like women's emotions are somehow a dangerous thing and that treating a woman kindly and like loving a woman oh cash but this is a movie but it's a movie and so we do endorse killing in the mood right they have to deal with the aftermath of that I think that could have been upped the curses any man or is it a spell though it's occurred to always occurs but the not raised but either way I I would have liked the story a bit better if it had just been to women maybe the daughters there's other use of that real estate right the ons can wear the on something yeah the the him being there as an obstacle were people who were perceived to be which is used to be executed which is like women with too much power it was a fear of it was either like an excuse to get rid of idea of romantic love it's like rice sows in love with who who's in a relationship how does that affect our lives like so let's talk about that too really is somehow dooming you like it does sort of tie into and I it doesn't isn't really examined by the movie that much of like reasons that which is they're like different relationships and I think that that is like another thing that you're just like oh you know I I would have liked to see like what can they actually assist us cast and he's like yeah we ruled his death as an accident and we do we don't this body is not anywhere we never found the right like women lawyers and yeah which is where usually considered or thought to be witches when they were stepping outside of societal norms woman that the powers that be didn't like receptor out of line in some way or it was a condemnation of women in stem and listen to murder Oregon on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you got your podcasts mm-hmm in very negative ways which characters in movies are usually like the evil or do men right for sure even so I think it is nice to see positive representation of like witchy characters coming out in a moment where it's kind of like a peak like cool trendy nineties which because at this time we have the craft it's more likely to be persecuted for being which is right and so it is like the entire culture surrounding the persecution of people accused of being horror women widowed women or unmet like never married women were like these types of women were to be it's just like stepping out of line means you're more likely to literally get murdered for no reason and I think that this movie does some things to challenge it but it it is results you know the result like you're talking about is Romantically fulfilling Hetero relationship for the character who is not which is just ties into this like fear of women straying out of what is their society expected role more sexually active who who more subscribed to the the idea of the American woman role yes empathizing with which characters also eastwick wrote I have not seen and don't know what the movie's about but if it kind of relate nineties safe challenge because most of their magic is in direct relation to Hetero stuff yeah and house kind of nothing to do with the nineties which which is fun because I mean which Ha there and this is kind of where this is like but yeah I mean just in general like does in terms of what I think would have been more fun to watch to see you know how they could use their magic in ways that didn't directly relate to maybe an example as well don't know we don't know if if someone has every time that something specifically this comes up with like hey if anyone's written there uh-huh shortly after this we have a craft was I think a couple of years four is it before okay so so we have that we have Sabrina the teenage Harry Potter is about to come out and Hocus pocus visas paper on this email me pedia because I would be curious as to like because like the mid to late nineties loaded like there's just this huge is a defining quality of like the traditional Hollywood which character is that the snow way evil stepmother which yeah like envy's really tight end and that boost in which characters being portrayed sympathetically and not just sympathetically but being portrayed as like cool and I wonder situation Yes let's talk about him so there is like the depiction in some ways of an abusive relationship in this movie between good okay spoke like the full meantime Halloween for crying out like it's like this is a big moment for Agila called her sister right away when the relationship truly became volatile and sought support from her sister I thought that that was a oh not at all reflective of the women who were actually condemned for being witches throughout history so it's just been so muddied and in this movie I guess is that Julie makes it clear that she really did have feelings for him and loved him and didn't have guilt at this time yeah definitely it was a good departure from the way which had previously been represented which is also not at which is also just with how this movie handled it partially because he gets killed which is great and Cathartic Button. I I mean we sort of talked about this already but I really liked that the which is which is to which is due words which is to paint Ursula Z.. The yeah scary bad which is who are evil in the ferry and I think normally jealous to is lettuce I wonder like societally what was what was going on that made them into cool. I'm glad it happened yeah I wanted to come back because it was included the movie but in a very Cathartic way I think for women who have been in abusive relationships it is always very fun for us to be like and then he gets killed don't believe her sister and then you know however cartoonish I think it would have been a little weird if they didn't kill him in a weird cartoony way I guess yeah just because of the tone come on the head and he's down there is like a cartoony nature of how they kill them but another thing that could have affected me and I was like Oh that's like more nuance than I would expect from I don't know I mean I I it's also implied in a way that was sued I think it's just like that relationship because it gets so cartoony and I think Jimmy I thought was was kind of well done right I was play again just be I think mostly because it came out in nineteen ninety eight where it's like you know to be just something like oh I don't know how often you see that because I you know so often when abusive relationships are portrayed we see the characters in the movie being like well why don't you leave Trian weirdly than on the main feet but the idea that I mean statistically women are more commonly abused and assaulted by men that they already know and no one gets in trouble because that's just fun fantasy right but yeah I don't know I was generally impressed with how this may be handled it right because all relationships of him and she was afraid of him and you know now she we'd see the moment where she'd says enough is enough I need to seek out help to get out of this situation but that was like honest about that with her sister and that was another thing there's like oh that's more than I would expect from a movie like this and I also found but up till the but at the beginning before that yeah yeah I agree I think the movie handle that fairly responsibly yeah it was nice yeah and there anything we've discussed this I think more on the everything is blaming me and weird I was I was like very impressed with like the way that that played out and like we've discussed before this sally doesn't at any point maybe a little too cartoony for an abuser in in some ways where it's like you know he he's up and then are complicated including ones with abusers yes so but movies often failed to explore the complexities of those yeah because media has usually done what society has done in terms of its treatment of people who were assumed to be which is often from characters that the female character already knows and I I'm sure that that has something to do with the discomfort with the movie of a woman using specifically a frying pan as a weapon which is it is like a cartoon example. Yeah we're I mean I I liked the all cool reboot of witches think it's fun and an awesome like does was very influential on me as a kid the post and that's not to say I mean it does happen with strangers but I think that there is this disproportionate representation in movies of it happening from a stranger right and less relationships and usually just paint the abusers being just like extremely cartoony and he is especially after he hillsdale Aaron Sillier you like so I I'm very biased in saying because I was like Oh my shit but it was very cool can we talk a little bit about the Jimmy Pretty Realistic Strong move on the part of the ICA was weirdly like very affected by that every time I see that scene and my head but I know there are more because I know he's talked about others but yeah it's it's a trope that this movie did choose to subscribe to although they probably weren't which is not super common any longer but it is I don't know just like setting the groundwork I think for what is a more common abusive relation attacking Jelly so Sally Bonk's him on the head with a skillet you know because women be using domestic items as even aware of that they were doing it as they were writing saw but also yes how about the midnight Margaritas scene Julie and Jimmy and I will say this is like a polarizing topic and everyone is going to have a different opinion I was kind of pleasantly surprised so right after they bring Jimmy back to life after they've killed him the first time with poison they bring him back to life he starts choking and ooh yeah about that and I'm not saying that Jimmy is like a character that men will really see themselves in because he is like a late nineties Goff aren't you to let me just all kind of normal blaming stuff for women that are in an abusive relationships but to hear her you know say genuinely that she did yes shock a lot Yup that happens there for about then who framed Roger Rabbit yes Those were the only ones I can think of the topic Oh my God and weird in every way it's so bizarre because it sandwiched between two heavy yes totally ship than what we see in movies a lot was you know points for sure once you hinted at the banking of the get to have fun together yeah it's it was really Nice Euro which euro slut but then magic but they only do like Hetero relationship magic which is like a come on showing something else but I've been I've been keeping a little uh I don't know but I know you're totally right like is like that's another confusing use of like it's implied that they can do infinity tally of all the movies that we see this very specific thing happening of a woman bonking a man with a frying Pan Oh raiders of the lost art you didn't make money back sure and a lot of the criticism around it at the time was based around the tonal issues which you know we can't deny that it just put it in wherever I just I love to see women having fun in a movie because you see it that much you don't see women so there wasn't even I mean on the on the cursory check I did because you know we like to go back and see how yeah I one goes far better than the other yup so that's just a little yes weird in incongruity ass- new we're alert sure that was word even that was it was adjacent to award okay thank you there or even just like I liked it but the way I liked it but like I don't think it was written for me and and then be like I'm talking to start with me probably had a curse on him he was no he was taught much like my current Putt he was very toxically performing his gender lease parallel do both movies end with either the two women jumping off or driving off of a surface isn't as much of a character is it should be it doesn't speak like Salem that was actually a really stupid decision why wasn't the cat it cats have nipples nuts cat facts was caitlyn but also black cads they're still superstition around them yet cats are much harder to it made me not as much of it there most of the criticism around this movie surrounded the the total issues which is a valid criticism and they're like but not I've been reading ever get there but I was like you but you know magic like Shirley there's like a thing to like I may go to sleep again whole Kidman and Sandra bullock great would love to see them more movies which I also agree with agree so yeah just a couple last things from me one other film alright nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight yeah no at this movie you know unfortunately in some ways I can understand it was not very successful will it did not make back its budget unfortunately which is you know I mean and and these are big stars at this time so I think it was probably surprising that this movie I wish on is just on regular but still pretty cool talk to me want us on a slippery surface I saw anesthesia on ice as a kid I remember you Louis L. Win since when his being slept been a crime in this family right coming to the defense of her sisters I weekly naming the term like get adopted in in like places like the SPCA and stuff like that because people still have a superstition or on black cats. Can I tell you something yes please two years ladies were reviewed because there's a lot of especially the further back you go most film critics are white guys and so when movies come out for anyone that isn't them they're like it Tanya again that's practical magic everyone is this is fun yes it does it does pretty handily between a lot of different character yeah there's sometimes like again like we are always sort of like movie with male audience members seeing themselves or qualities of themselves in an abusive character and that's something I think it was what was it the girl with the Dragon Tattoo episode where

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Urban Cowboy

High Noon

23:57 min | 1 year ago

Urban Cowboy

"All right I decided I need to. NBA team through for everybody in the office. Set for you gotTA team to root for the team while I drive with the sixers man so you want to join me on on that bandwagon specifically reason. Why don't WanNA participate advantage? No Fun old with a group of six media all that. So what are you thinking then if not the six Aldo L.. Does take some suggestions on this one. But I mean at least they've route four from the actual basketball you out here room for the pencil pushers avenue for them because they root for me. UH WE'LL START WITH JERRY JOKES which way Jerry Licey cowboys owner did his weekly Tuesday hit three the fan in Dallas and he said he had not reached out out to Urban Meyer about coaching. The cowboys next season hold on that doesn't mean he won't talk to. Meyer is Jerry. That's not correct I can. I can confirm that is absolutely not correct. We have never with any coach not with any answering that question. I don't want to imply that we would see. This is good juicy Z.. Urban coach the cowboys next season I could because the reasons to not at higher urban Meyer. If you're a coach or an owner in this case or athletic director is because you have questions about his moral integrity the guy elevated and assistant coach at Ohio state suspended for a while. He was compiling a history of domestic assault allegations all very serious but none of that stops being a virtual so some of that stuff's Jerry Jones owns. I think from being intrigued by a guy who's one eighty five percent of his career game now one thing. We need to remember about Jerry Jones Series Jerry. Jones wants Higher Barry Switzer and as far as scandals go what what happened Ohio state. Not Quite what was going on by the time they got Jiri added here got Switzer out of there at Oklahoma so I don't know how much he cares about that and I also think that there's is a very particular thing with urban. Having him coach. A college team feels a little different than having him coach protein. I'm still terribly comfortable. The way things ended at Ohio state and that would be enough to stop me from hiring him but it wasn't enough to stop house stay from keeping him there in the first place. So maybe Jerry does this now where this is interesting to me is hiring. College coaches has been generally frowned upon all throughout NFL history. It's only worked out well for a small handful of people. This however is one of the things that I think it could work very well for because this isn't just about having some scheme and it's not just about having the best players are got done at Bowling Green Urban. GOT THIS AT UTAH. Right in terms of organizing your program. He's a guy who could get it done. I'm just not sure it's going going to happen here. So urban is a football genius. Jerry Jones may want him but if you're urban do you want this job if you're the type of coach as we know him to be who likes power who likes to be detail oriented who wants to be the guy calling all the shots is Jerry. Jones going to approach him in a way. That is different than how he approached chasing gear. Because he's not Jason Gary Right. I'm sure that he did not treat Jason Garrett the same way that he treated bill parcells. Remember this this is the man who hired bill parcells. You're not bringing bill parcells in unless you're going to give him better level of power to do things in fact a lot of the personnel mistakes that took place in that era of the cowboys had a lot more to do a parcells and they had to Jerry so yeah I think that he would be inclined to give up the power Howard. Well let's get to Garrett Cole who was inspiring all sorts of parents now to sign their kids up for literally because per jeff passing the Yankees have signed Cole. Who's twenty nine to a record nine years three hundred twenty four million dollar contract flowing past the seven year two hundred forty five million dollar remark? Stephen Strasburg set all the way back on Monday. Now with the Astros last year calls two point five and three hundred twenty. Six strikeouts led the American league. So Bomani does this deal restore the Yankees as the team to the I mean it's a hell of a start you've got yourself a great pitcher and a dude who last year was as good as anybody that we he could remember now. Of course. Baseball's postseason was a random championship generator. Right once you get there we just saw rotation with Culver Orlando cranking not win a seven game series and moves all the games that they played at home so we can't promise anything here but I love about this is the Yankees are back to money whipping people. We Law Stress the Plate Association. That's the love this also the Yankees Yankees are back to whip people. Spend all the money you can to get the guys that you want. Baseball's more fun that way. This is the Yankees that I fell in love with. This is the evil empire. This is the team that had a period of weird austerity for the last couple of years under house steinbrenner because they were not spending nearly as as much as they could. But now they say we'd rather have Garrett Cole than I don't know like buying thirty seven backs or something. They want to have better players and for this team in specific bowl. Last they were just twenty-sixth in rotation innings. They weren't getting a ton from their starters gear. Coal is that guy for the last five years two hundred innings. The only question that I have with Cole. He was in that astro system. He spiked and succeeded in that Astros system with all of the bagging garbage cans and spying allegedly. Does that worry you well. A lot of what they did was changing what pitches he threw into focus on what he was more effective on right. So maybe if you take that over everything changes but there is another question. I think we have here. It's been a while since we had one though but the last time we had somebody meltdown because pitcher for the Yankees. You just a little harder than they thought it was right. Randy's Ed Whitson SORTA situation was the last time we had. Yeah one of those hammer no but things exist anymore right. Like has the media situation in the city changed in such a way where the idea of pitcher for the Yankees isn't such a fish bowl thing link to where somebody like him. We don't have to worry about that anymore. Because they used to be the question we had about anybody they brought in a time like this was can they handle and now. I wonder if the Fishbowl is just everywhere because we're all on our phones. Everyone feels like they're always being watched all right now. TRAE UP SO frustrated by Atlanta's piddly roster that he was assured even get help young. The hawks look poised to defeat the heat up. Six with one minute left young. said it's over at that point. Yeah that's right there. And then the hospital that leader regulation before we're being outscored by fourteen in overtime he's won thirty five one twenty one win. Pablo you're gonNA playing young declaration. That the game was over for the hawks loss. I am not blaming young for the the fact that the heat made up a six point difference at fifty nine seconds that happens all the time in the NBA. What I am going to blame him for the fact that the heat thenceforth the the next twenty two straight points that feels like Jimmy Butler and company were trying to prove a point to a guy who is somehow and underdog undersides that all of these things and at the same mm time also somewhat of a village where they try to prove a point? I did the hawks. Just go back to being the heart right like we were tracking this gangs. Cortes loves the heat and tell us all of that smack and they will lose all nights at heart hogs so we were tracking tracking dragging the whole thing spun in the other direction. Why because they are the heart is my man bread? Says why. Play hard against the Hawks and you could just wait for for them to not show up. It appears that they showed up this time but then they decided to leave early. A long track record hawks. History indicates that this is something that they might do but we should credit the minister if he'd Propaganda Baganda for us into a team that had set as of last night the NBA record for points scored between two undrafted players. Who keeps his deported reporting? WHO's keeping track of this? The Minister of propaganda is and the point is with the heat of done and getting these guys that we did not know right. Don't get Robinson who is that guy. Kendrick Nunn who is that guy they have players and their top five team in the league right now and the Atlanta Hawks are the Atlanta Hawks. As you know with this was was impressive to see in overtime also is in a long line of the heat feasting on what has thus far been a fairly weak schedule right now is like this is a very much so Miami. He'd victory feel real good about being LANTA. Hawks thing happens to it says over here looking at me like you got a problem with it with the truth this has happened. They got a couple of decent ways. I'm not saying that they don't but I am saying however I am not sold that this is a great team as of yet I am not buying that. Much Duncan Robinson as of now. But are you buying Jimmy Butler. Because this was how he was dealing with the trae young on social media. I've always Jimmy Butler program. This man trae young is the future he was right game was over and all I can do is basically wealth understand. What can you do after that? It's happening. I'm surprised you took it. That will especially since the way it sounded like after the last game. He's about ready to quit his job up by the way Obama. BIOS giving triple doubles now. All of this go all right coming up next the cash trade Kevin Love Very. Hey good question. Hey I'm andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating restraining experience I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed. An out of touch. At Harry's our approach is simple. Here's our secret. We make sharp derby blades and sell them at honest prices for as low as two dollars. Each we care about quality so much that we do some crazy things like by a world class German blade factory obsessing over every detail means we're confident and offering one hundred percent quality guarantee. 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They're not gonNA boo him while they give them a championship ring. I find that impossible to see happening. And they know he is the reason that they got this championship ring any time. They had to do this over one year while Leonard to get the ring did you've been waiting for for twenty three years. They would do that. I imagined that these ordinarily bullying inclined people. We'll be cool this time up next. You got the Philly beat the nuggets ninety seven ninety two last night but after the Game Charles Barkley criticized this is Joel embiid play and added that the sixers quotes ain't got no chance as making the NBA finals. You Win with our Charles at the sixers will impact not make these fun. I sure am when and they need somebody to get a shot. Who is going to get a shot? The only got like the best option for shooting that they had to devise hairs. You're gonNA lean on him. It's been Simmons seems to refuse to do such a thing and embiid has not been a great postseason one on one scoring type. I am hoping for an emerging late game deep threat. I have hoping for Josh Richardson. Richardson to Rally News. That are going to do it. They might chip in. But here's the problem with looking at this team and seeing okay. This is what they're going to be. Joel embiid is saying saying they're telling him to preserve himself for the postseason is the version of embiid who is already. The Best Defensive Player in the League could actually bloom offensively in ways that he's restricting himself from. I'm doing right now. You are hoping that Joss. Richardson or five. Oil grows into basically being with Jimmy Butler was with this team last year. Who who do you think is GonNa grow that fast in that way to become that guy? I am hoping that the fact that they are grown and big is going to basically outmatch the bucks in specific the three point when shooting is an issue. But I think the matchup is an advantage for phillies. Only there were other teams in the conference. Next up diva's Burt Tante. Was Big man. Put up a career. High thirty points in an eight three-pointers last night and a loss to the horns you went on batons being named more people should know absolutely because all they got to do is watch this video and if you are not intrigued I have no idea whether or you can actually see or not because look at this guy. He lot laser whose shooting like everybody is watching. Or maybe nobody because look at his face when he launched from thirty thirty three feet. From Cody Zeller. So I'm not sure what to do with this but let me tell you about your man's forty-seven percent from three on eight and a half. Three point eight cents so far this year forty three percent from three last year on four and a half. So we're not just dealing with a small sample situation and I do love like you. The fact that he realized somewhere along the way I did not come here to play basketball. I came here to shoot and he is going to shoot and now Dave Aranda the LSU defensive coordinator reportedly spoke with UNLV Elvia head coaching job. But according to Adam Ridden Burg's UNLV has hired offensive coordinator from Oregon. Marcus royal as its next coach. So you went on a good decision in for a random two now stay put it. Lsu Yeah because if you've got a two and a half million dollars a year coordinator job which is what he has been you. Go get the job that you want. You don't have to wait for the job and just hope that this kind of thing works out. If I'm in a position like this dude is in. I'm looking for a job where I know I can win a little bit in year one but I feel damn confident that we can win in year three year threes. He's winning start asking questions. There are many reasons for him to stay at Lsu. His Stride College Football University is making two and a half million dollars the most of any assistant this past year but if his quality of life which I think matters most in any of these personal inquiries if his body of life actually hinges on him wanting to have his own program whether it's lv a clear step down or somewhere somewhere else. I do understand why you'd want to go off and do that all right. I'm next markets Davenport Saints Defensive. End suffered a foot injury Sunday's loss to the forty niners and is expected to miss the rest of the season according to the NFL network on it being a big deal for the Saints Davenport misses the rest of the year. I am in on this being a big deal because this saints defense just gave up fifty to the niners. The average over the last half dozen or so games twenty eight points per game giving up defensively and so this is a defense that needs him. This is a guy that gave up two first rounders and a fourth last year to take a number fourteen overall. Their secondary has looked at points in these last few weeks. And there's no better friend to a secondary than pass rush so losing a pass. Rusher is not something that the states can afford to do the margins are thin at the top of the. NFC We start talking about the forty niners. He's talking about the seahawks and he starts talking about the saints. And then these resurgent Rams right and the packers all the players they can get in this one all the capital. They gave up and get them in the first place. You'd like to think that somebody you don't want to lose. But now to Kevin Adrian Watson Areski reports. The cavs are ready to listen to offers for love. While the ringers. Kevin O'Connor says that would prefer to play for his hometown. Blazers so you win on the cavs trading. Yeah because I can't think of a compelling reason really for them to keep him there and this is state of transition where they still got hold overs from the championship run cab and they got all these young all the wild they state. So Oh I doubt Kevin love wants to stay there and stinking Cleveland. So why not get him to a better place and help you with what you're saying is it's a weird mix of players. None of whom seems to actually like the head coach John and be lined. That was the last headline we got from. Cleveland was that there is essentially a soft revolt against their head. Guy With Kevin. Love is interesting. Because he's vaguely healthy right now but he's in the first I era four in which is going to get paid one hundred twenty million dollars. so He'd list of suitors for that Guy. Maybe it's maybe it's Phoenix but there aren't that many teams even if he is still l. very useful right and finally Levian Bell Baseball for the first time since it was reported. Went bolting on Saturday night ahead of Sunday's game with the dolphins which he missed as watch but he had. Yeah I'd say surprise I won't to fifty one. That's the biggest surprise. Was that holiday as mcgrew continue. Could you ever love you. Autism principle two to fifty fifty one coming off the flu. I am in on this being impressive specifically because we went bowling last week and I bowled I believe thirty nine off a total health so I am extremely impressed with the guy who can do this because I did not realize how hard any of this what you should be ashamed of yourself. This is the question I want to ask the way he ran up. Yeah to fifty one. How tired of the people in his life of hearing about that two fifty one because he would like that level of pride and how quickly came back with that and given the timing this may did not have been the time to say this? He must be his everybody. He knew one last night. You think he has like the Mike will bond to bowling. Ball's strategy do you think. He has custom shoes and all of that. And he's bowling in the two hundred. He's taking this series coming up next our teams targeting Lamar Jackson's legs technology knowledge. Truth brought to you by GEICO truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor. What's Janet's fangs? Did she lose a bet with a weed. whacker Ono sent wait. No no no no no truth. It's so so easy to switch and save on car insurance at GEIKO DOT COM Janet. I think my phone was hacked. Or something geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more problems TMZ. It's human nature to hate problems. But why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things. Ben Things make things better. That's why so many people work with. Ibm On everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to to food safety. SMART LOVES PROBLEMS IBM. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more all right so slam online. Did something about the sharpest hairlines in the NBA Dare Williams. I don't think is in the NBA anymore. But I guess he's emeritus in this Janelle rose the center square. Yo Jalen was get up addressing this matter on an airplane so when I landed. I'm like sixteen. So that's the reason no award last season the time energy and Money Lebron James Spin on his hair unit. You know how much glue go into his head. The people paying here like to have it. Naturally I'm just really fortunate and I'm GonNa keep it as long as I can. Just want to the point out Jordan Clarkson that is all real that all Philippines. That's the part of him. I think responsible for airline. I'm not impressed by any of it myself personally. The best hair Jalen rose has ever had was when he was in college when he had the same haircut. As me wow quote. They're definitely going legs more than they were doing it. I Ravens Safety Earl. Thomas about teams targeting Lamar Jackson adding that refs need to protect him a little bit more. So Thomas Right I mean I understand why you're saying that I just need you to you. Tell me what else anybody else is supposed to do. First of all you can't go hi we have legislated that out of the gate so are we trying to say now that the strike zone is going to be like the actual baseball strike zone actually higher than I bet. You'll go from the waist to the shoulders. I don't know what else you're supposed to do to bring this do down. So Lamar Jackson chimed in on this recently and said in the pocket he feels like guys. Is it going after his legs. Like eight of nine times or something like that and it is I think in the pocket. That's the concern it's the roughing. The passer should be covering like knees down and I think that's what to try and clue into which also obviously some amount of referee manipulation. But I also feel like on the other hand if you're trying to get Lamar Jackson when he's in the pocket and there's a possibility not that he might run was the easiest way for you to go about getting them now. Tom Brady let us not forget. They toured Tom. Brady's ACL somebody really grabbing from the ground. They made that illegal immediately media right so for certain quarterbacks if marketable enough a profitable nothing to Lee they will change the rules. You just don't know how you change the rules to protect him sources. Say Jerry would be intrigued by the challenge of fixing the Knicks reports Howard Beck about ravaged aside Jiri Pablo. Do you expect us to happen. I do not even though Messiahs yeary being higher would be the biggest move this team could make short of somehow changing out excommunicating. Jim Dolan the owner but like mostly feel like this is something if you are a smart as I believe Jerry to be that you talk about in order to get more money from your current employer in Toronto there is that part. There's also ego bill right and I don't know what his ego is exactly how he is wired and how he looks at the idea of coming to the Knicks the reports that you read say with his charitable work in Africa that he could see if he he comes to the Nixon the Knicks funded like the raptors funded and this could get him in some different circles that he's got some old personal motives that he named person voted. Seems like the wrong way to put it but you know what I mean. The thing that he wants to do he can do do them there with the Knicks. And maybe he thinks he's so that he could be the one to overcome it Phil Jackson thought he was so cold that he could be the one to overcome Larry Brown on he was the one that was so cold he could overcome overcome. Maybe he's one of them but it feels like he's mostly so cold in the eyes of Jim Dolan in specific because he should be treated appraise like this but it's because he's flees the Knicks so many times they want him to have smart play for the Knicks Number Twenty twenty actually because NBC. Sports Tom Current said on the rich Eisen show Joe that he keeps coming back to the Miami Dolphins. The possibility for Tom Brady might play in two thousand twenty if he and the Patriots Split Up. So Bo would that partnership makes well. I can see it making making sense on a couple of levels one level would make sense on is Steve Ross. Big Michigan Booster Guy and so he and Tom Brady would have that connection. The next level would be if the dolphins really are trying. Continue out this tank and fangled forty three year old. Tom Brady might be the ultimate Trojan horse like this. Tom Brady that we've seen play for. The Patriots was play for the dolphins this year. We will talk about him like we talk. Talk about the quarterback of any other tanking team. So hey maybe this is all part of the play. There is some poetry and Tom Brady going to south Florida and defacto retiring with Miami that makes sense to me but the exercise as a whole the fact that the dolphins or maybe at the top of that list it kind of shows you that there really is no good landing spot for Tom Brady like where where else is there. You might have said Tennessee. But now they're hot on Ryan Tannehill money say Pittsburgh obviously they got stuff going on there with duck and Ben Rothlisberger coming back. It was never going to be Pittsburgh. One hundred that's how he points. Wayland Baptist Guard. Jj covered head last night becoming just the second player in history to score at least one hundred points in game Pablo. You're impressed by this and you're gonNA find a way to Pooh Pooh so my temptation to pooh-pooh would come from the fact that the next highest number of field goal attempts on this team was three. This was propped up but more than that can. We showed the video of how this guy go to score one hundred points in common game. They'll call flow of the game. Maybe when he was. You know there's some Brunell here Bomani remember that guy who scored like one thirty eight or whatever. This guy is really good. What everybody is making this happen? I mean yeah that's Kinda again hundred points that's kind of how it goes but there is something that we should pay attention. There you go I got to say. We didn't say who the team was that they were playing against and good for them. Because I I really in judging the hell out of all uh when I was a kid and we had the know Duncan all kinds of things. How does this do not hit the floor? One time once it becomes clear that this is what we try to do how nobody tried to take his head off and and also understand that this is the one moment that anybody else outside of that arena is going to see or think about the people on that court and you don't throw a bow in his general direction it lucky for them and none of us know who those people were that were on the floor. We don't how questionable is coming up next.

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344: The Masai Ujiri Shoving Incident; Should the NHL Continue Letting 24 teams into the Playoffs?

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

49:23 min | 8 months ago

344: The Masai Ujiri Shoving Incident; Should the NHL Continue Letting 24 teams into the Playoffs?

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An official apology. May. Sometimes, this show is get away from us. We plan to talk about all kinds of sports, but the whatever took over. Yeah, it was. It was good. It was good but you've ruined any snacking for awhile. It ruined any snack and. I just keep thinking I went for like a Granola bar yesterday and I just kept thinking I was eating all dried up skin off someone's feet. Yeah. So stuff like that. So it's GonNa take a while. I don't think anybody who listened to that show yesterday. Last episode is going to be enjoying mushrooms anytime soon. Koch, Amid Simple Yeah Oh my God you did Yup Yeah Anyway. Hate to be responsible for a drowning incident there. That's like he was going right into your lungs. You need some time here. I'm okay Man Yeah Yeah everything's got every I've. got. Good weather here in Edmonton funding is melting melting hot yesterday. So that's it Steve for the warm weather this summer in Evanston. We're actually getting nice nice weather. You know if you like you know twenty four degrees and sunny although I'm looking at the win and our getting some clouds but generally these last few days have been fantastic weatherwise. How about how about this one Steve. I described yesterday. So so my nate, how ended up with a bunch of water in my basement I haven't been down there a couple of months ahead the funky smell I go down discover all this frequent water. And and Iran in my neighbors. So the way it happened apparently. Hopefully there is we've got the two down the eavesdrops, the pipes that comes straight down the wall after drains off the roof, and then you have extensions out to your backyard and mine runs along side my neighbors. So they're of side by side you know because it's attach. So anyway, the boys are here the there's been a mold. Stevie was all sealed up downstairs doing much work in the cut and dry wall back So I I ran into her yesterday. Okay said Blah Blah. Blah. She goes what's going. On I said, well, you you heard there's water in my basement. and. She Goes Yeah Yeah Yeah I did hear that I said. They figured out. It was though you're extender pipe, there was fell off. was disconnected. So all the water was coming down from the roof just, sat not corner. and. Yours. No hers okay. You're saying that I'm sorry. Yeah, it's hurt. Mine was fine. My pipe was there right and so hers came straight down on the EXTENDER AT FALLEN OFF Steve. So someone someone didn't go to the massive effort and really time consuming task. Of putting that extend run and. Putting a screw Steve. Just. So it's as on. Right now and and going through that by the way going through a downspouts with a screw and drill it's going through Bader takes no time at all. Yeah it's like five second thing. Up Five seconds is probably the biggest saving thing of five seconds to save. Fifteen grand where the work that maybe be needed to be done. Anyway she goes. Yeah Yeah. You know. I saw that a long time ago that thing and I thought boy that's going to trouble ohno. I'd say. She knew about all no. I. Would you say well, it it looks take God it looks like. Hold. Associated all that stuff and it looks like it's all covered. Okay. I do. As I said yesterday I got a great condo. Association we've got big reserve fund all that stuff, and then you've got to pay for all that right all those you know. Various things like they take care of their supposed to take care of something like that. Even though you're saying, okay, you might have wanted to tell someone about. Being off but it is end of the day their job. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Anything on the outside of the house any and Dan, any water coming into your house from the outside is is covered. So right? You. Know you're over that fear of a sewer backups. Gaping holding your foundation or something like that. So I just like I sort of. I thought that would be trouble. No. Pick, up a phone. Oh, Jesus said, let somebody WHO's still in for gene oh I duNno, I also shouldn't be. Probably, the associated pick up the genome. Tell him you know you should pay the my. My jeans probably had deductible for for damage. You know loss of property here inside. With, the. Still. Shouldn't have to pay that even. Now. Even you've got an admission from your neighbor that age hers be she knew about it for a very long time and see you're paying condo fees that you should have to deal with it yourself right? Exactly. Exactly. So we'll see but anyway. Well. Good to have closure on that story, and we'll get a little closure as well on the Messiah Jiri Story Today the Toronto Raptors President and GM, and we all remember the raptors winning the NBA title last year. But an unfortunate incident occurred at the conclusion of the game as the clock was winding down, you is going down to the court because he wants to celebrate with with the guys and so he's walking through. The crowd in a suit and I guess going to about to head to a restricted area and there's a cop there who intervenes looks is basically says I need to see your ide- Messiah Jiri at this point according to all the video that was released just yesterday is the body Cam the COP and stadium footage is well, we see you Jiri Kinda doing the reaching for his accreditation, but also at the same time. Maybe a little big time in it in their neck, not stopping down and really clearly showing the badge she's supposed to be wearing it on his lanyard around his neck. But the video shows that he he reaches for it for sure. But he's clearly trying to get past the COP and the PR guy at the same time in I guess in a big rush. And doesn't really get that accreditation of the play there should be for the cop to maybe move in front of Ugg at that stage and say, sorry, I'm going to need to see that accreditation but he immediately goes into shove mode. He shoves him back and then shoves them. Again you jerry responds with a shove of his own and so everybody's like gets in between that stage of the game from there because we got this word of like, okay he's you know the GM of the raptors. Assaulted a police officer in the midst of this celebration thing, and then the cop took it to the next level is named deputy Allen Strickland and he decided that he was gonna hit him with a lawsuit for all the pain and suffering. and. His wife got in his well she got in on a lawsuit lost wages future medical claims like Amazon shoving thing and to talk about you know facial injuries and chest injury and the other cops all be chimed in as well as at least four or five other claims from his police colleagues that insisted the video will prove we can't release it now but the video approve all of the cops claims of pain and suffering now the video is out there and it does exactly the opposite I. Think it totally makes the cop look like the aggressor would you? Know. What Steve This thing is. Here's what I think. Okay. It's embarrassing. If you're you Jiri, it's embarrassing. If you're this cop with this got the freaking wives the other cops anyone from the raptors it what a disgusting absolute waste of time that this thing is absolutely wasted time you know. Guys Steve who get an a shoving match in the heat of a moment what whatever it is whatever the heat of the moment in this case, the celebration that's going to happen I've you know what? Whoever initiated it? Whoever initiated? Okay there was cop. I, it's just ridiculous. It's ridiculous that this thing is is where it is. It's two grown men who get into a shoving match. Okay. No, you know if if someone got hurt while big deal big deal I, I really don't care I really don't care even amongst things that are going on right now with with you know this guy coming forward and saying, look what happened. Nothing fucking excuse me nothing happened here Steve Nothing. If I'm a judge Okay and I look at this thing I'm GonNa get throw this thing out. You got get get off here. You're not. There's no lawsuit there's nothing happening here this. Is, I wonder if people are pissed. Are pissed about things that that. Are you know just as? A. Gross, waste of time. You know wonder taxes are high. If this thing gets tied up in the courts you know or or this back and forth between guts what them and you're the wife and your these other cops or your anyone from the other side with the Toronto Raptors some some point at some somewhere along the way someone's got to go. This is re this is ridiculous. Okay both say, sorry, this this is a this is a school yard freaking thing where a teacher comes out and says, say, sorry, knock it off. Okay. That's that's what happened here Steve. What I think it's Think. It's way more serious than that. I think that I think that if I think if you have a situation with two guys just having a shoving match Okay. That was a bit aggressive. That was over the top and it's unfortunate that happened because I'm sure it did. Sully, which should be pretty proud special moment for Messiah Jiri to have been treated that way to be shoved around like that. So I think the the incident unto itself I can't predict if this I would have done that to a white guy who came by who was kind of doing that fadeaway thing I'm just GonNa fade there as I kind of show you my badge. So I can't predict whether there was racism involved but to go right to the shoving card that does not look good but you're right if it had just stayed there if that was the extent of it. And maybe the two men get a chance to apologize to each other. But the guy, the cop decided that he was going to go into fraudulent mode. Now you're now you are into a serious place. Now, those are serious things that I am taking very gravely serious because he's coming forward with a lawsuit tarnishing Eugene reputation needlessly going after money needlessly I I don't understand how this cop knowing that he's wearing a body. Cam Knowing this video in the stadium he had to know those things. Obviously he's wearing a camera how he thinks that anybody is going to buy into this and that is that his colleagues are backing him up saying, yes we've seen the video and it shows all of these ugly things that you. Jiri, did it none of that video exists the video we've seen today totally exonerates Messiah Jerry is that no one got hurt Steve. No, it was such A. Such an innocuous one off little thing a guy trying to get in a court and then for fifteen seconds or twenty seconds, there's a bub-bubba back and forth it's just it's absolutely insane. It's at this thing is going to go any further. The should be there should be something here Steve. Some sort of life. Thing. You know that that someone can look at this go. This is going nowhere nowhere known suing anyone for this no one's no one's claiming loss of income salary of sore neck. You know whatever whatever man what what, what, what of. frigging waste what what a what? People are getting pissed it's no wonder people are getting. pissed off and and they're creating this rift between the public and police and. Racism ship that's happening. You know when someone's GonNa take this incident. This has nothing to do with race nothing at all Steve. It was the heat of the moment is what this thing was nothing premeditated. Jerry you Jerry didn't make a mistake. The COP didn't do anything wrong. You know it was a little shove back and forth there's no right or wrong here. It was a little frigging thing that happened that can happen to anyone. You know if you if you saw that Steven, you're you know if that happened to you and you've got the shoving. Because it's something quickly you know like I said, there's another premeditate just it's just dumb. It's absolute. So you only be okay after an incident like that you'd be okay if say some guy a cop maybe. Hit You with a very frivolous lawsuit about a assault use of excessive force. Would our they claimed that they decide they would sue you for tens of thousands of dollars, tarnishing your reputation and doing it exclusively with lies based on what I saw from the video there lies. Yeah. I. You're along with that. Why would you? Know listen steep. That's that's fine. That's fine. The problem is Steve With the problem is. The problem is in society that this thing can happen the you know that that can go to that point. That this thing can grow and being the you know a lawsuit it's just absolutely stupid. It's absolutely stupid. It's a frequent cash grab by this guy. And again I don't think he did anything. Wrong. I. Really. Don't think like I. Say it was in the heat of the moment. This guy's doing this job. Who knows Steve. Listen. To this day and age who knows what someone's doing? At you know there's some crazy people out there steve would dress up. In a suit get a fake accreditation and want to jump on the jump on the court after I I understand that I understand why they got to have security and I I understand why guy may go over the top you know wait a minute here knowing who are you rush on the court but but it was a split decision thinks the okay and and the fact. So this guy goes crazy and now you're sorry Jerry Garcia. Dude, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? You know that you're GonNa do this the problem is you can't stop it. You know you got you bring this up. Are you? Okay if you're you know you jerry getting done no. No I'm not. But at some point at some point, someone's got again this is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. Videos out there without this video. And this is part of the whole black lives. Matter thing about you know the victimization of black people when it's a he said, he said situation you know because up until the the release of this video, I wasn't sure what happened and there was all these cops lining up to say, Oh yeah. Oh yeah, it was brutal. We got the video here know. So that's that's the problem here is nothing again I'm with you on the whole incident itself the two guys could easily have said, yes sorry, I overreacted there. You seem to be kind of brushing by me with kind of me the respect of stopping down showing your accreditation and then. Moving on you to seem to be blowing past me like I was a piss ant that to me that could that to me is a reasonable conversation they could easily made up I'm only going hard after the cop though for his actions after the fact he saw opportunity he decided he was gonna lie he decided he was going to be fraudulent and that's the thing that I think everybody's having a big problem with now there's lots of people who look at the video itself and they immediately see racism certainly, that could be a possibility I have no idea. I can't climb into the guy's head I do think he was trying to be. He was an over the top cop. He was a little power hungry. They're potentially because the play again is not to a media go into shoving mode the play there is to you know. Again. Redirect and say we'll before he go you don't be taken off on me here. I'm talking to you. You know it's goes right into pushing mode that that wasn't the best play, but it certainly unto itself not something I'm going to freak out over it's all the reactions by the COP and his colleagues after the fact that were completely completely over the line. The whole thing is the whole thing is you know it's like. Diving in sports fake fake diving fe. And they they do this shit's got stop. Okay. This gotTA. Stop where guys are faking injuries and faking. And they did as a sports. Take. Here on this. Okay. You do that penalty. Okay and in this case, this guy doing that if against the something like an arbitration for these things in the world that's going on that are that are frivolous absolutely stupid and someone's going to step in. No, this goes no further. There's no. And that's how I feel about this. There's no racism here the no racism or. Racist. You Jerry did not. How do you know that? I don't care Steve if it is. How do you know you don't know that it's just you know I'll tell you what's racism Steve Floyd. Okay that's all. That's that deal. That's a problem. That's that's a huge problem and we need to sort that out. We need to that happened. Okay. This thing is absolutely ridiculous and if if black lives matter get on this thing and say this is you know this is what we're dealing with. It's not the case seat I got an opinion about it and I don't see any of that there. I don't see any of that there, and even if it was Steve, even if it was, it resulted in what? It resulted in what? Okay. Even if this guy was a racist or is you know resulted in him shoving him back. Okay. In what sort of why? What was the setup here our why? Heat of the moment he's guys went to world championship. This guy comes down wants to jump on the rig. This guy's just doing his job and shoves the guy back disaffected no racism there's nothing they're nothing I don't think you can say that I don't think you could I mean I don't think he can know that I don't, and I'm not going to declare it one way or the other because I don't I don't know 'cause you can make the argument. Okay. That's an over the top cop that's a guy that's maybe power trip and a little bit. Gauge on that I. Don't know whether it was racist but I'm certainly not going to declare it not racist either 'cause I. Don't know and I think you have to ask yourself the question you have to say to yourself you know if that's a white guy, for example. Does he do the push or does he just continue to get in his way and say hang on Sir is if that's not a black guy, is he going to all the trouble of suing this guy or is he cutting him some slack? If he's a white guy I don't know the answer to those questions but given the culture we're in just to go immediately to the shoving away card like I don't know I will never know the answer to that but I certainly look at Allen Strickland as a guy with pretty low character to do what he did after the fact. If that's your take if that's your take on this and one to want to bring in perhaps A. Thing that's a big problem with stuff going on right now that people are GonNa look at that is not happened way too fast for the thing to be a racist I it just I'm sticking up for the COP here even though this guy is gone way too far, and now is doing this disgusting thing of trying to you know, say job loss and all that stuff you know it's like Steve it's the equivalent of. Something happening in the school yard amongst kids like I said, this is a school yard thing you know someone gets shoved the other kid gets show knowing broke their neck no one got hurt. There's no you know this kid didn't get you know no no, no one's got emotionally. You know screwed up from this thing and the teacher comes out and said, don't do that again. Okay. You get a detention you gotTa de Paul bub-bubba. Equivalent what's happening here? Steve is some parent now comes in and goes, I'm suing the school board. Okay, and I'm going to sue them because this is I'm is loss of work for me because all this crap you know that people are taking. You know non eventful things and trying to do this thing. It it's. What's on the table is whether or not? That's racist and the only appropriate answer is I don't know. Because I can't look at that and say, that's not racist or I can't look at it and say that is racist. I don't know. Can I know I have no idea I don't know this guy maybe if somebody puts together a body of racist moments in this guy's past, then then we can maybe have a discussion about it but I don't know this guy I've no idea and no matter who it was. You know if he tried to breeze by him while Kinda half showing his accreditation maybe does that to any person? But I don't know the answer to that question but I'm certainly I can't I can't think anybody should be able to say with all with all due respect I don't think anybody should say that's absolutely not racist. It's not racist. I will also say it's not racist. How do you know what? Because he didn't do anything racist. He maybe does that exclusively because he hates black people I don't know he didn't Steve He did it because the Russian Adam the guy was right? He had no time here to. See if he's racist or not. The guy came at him. He's he's shoved me where are you going? This is a this is a split second thing. If, a white COP does use. Expensive. You're immediately going to have that that possibility. No you're not does that's the problem. That's that's the problem with people looking at this and make a racist issue. You know. You you jury in my mind Steve In my mind. Okay. Nobody did anything wrong here. Nobody you jerry didn't do anything wrong. It was it was listen look at this thing it was against it again it was you split-second Shit. The guy wanted to jump on the rink there wanted to jump. In, here we'll. We can't just have everybody got and. It didn't get out of control. It was a little pushback. He pushed him you pushed Jim. Okay off you go boys off you. We're not making this anything was in my mind and that was just A. That happens it's ship that happens you know. It's I saw this you gotta be kidding me this is lawsuits you've got to be kidding me you know. Yeah. Party agree I did the whole lawsuit thing is just a joke and to your point about the should be somebody that just looks at this and reasonably goes get Outta here. This stuff well let supposed to be the courts you know, and hopefully I see they do hopefully now have have have this video and they see it and the the judge says exactly that get out of here with that stuff an. Officer I needed to hang back though everybody else can leave officer you hang back you're fired. And as well, you're now going to be counter so good luck with all that. Yeah exactly. You know it. You know they have grand juries right? I think in the states right where they do this and you got you know the the prosecutor. Thinks, there might be evidence here. you know the the gotTa look at this. What do we have enough here to go to trial? Right it's a great system. We have enough here before we march into its six week or two months or three months or one year drought. and. So they do this grand jury thing. Right and they make a decision is there enough there right right and anybody anybody I would hope would look at this single. There's nothing they're not even close. Is there anything there that this thing should be tied up in court of law? Even a lawyer said, you know what boys I'm not taking this on. Okay. This is this is this is nothing but a couple of kids. A couple people getting into shoving match you know. That's all well there's no shortage of lawyers out there who are willing to capitalize on on situations like this but I mean the reality is. I think we're in a situation where he just it'd be nice that it would go away but. This thing happened last year NBA Championships a long time ago now, and it's only now coming out this video like that video should have been presented on. You know the first week that thing happened and then short back to the officer you really want to go to court with us on a lawsuit situation look at this video Ding Bat and then the officer if he was a salesman, he certainly would have said, yes probably not a really good ideas open make a few bucks here on a on a famous but I guess that's not going to pan out and that should really anything. You know what I would do Steve when I look at this stuff like that I would say, okay, here's the deal. Here's the deal. There's a law now. Okay. There's a law now that you know court cost writer expensive. All right. There's a lot lot to go on to run the courts and all that I'd have this. Okay. Here's the deal it's going to cost five, hundred thousand. Now that's going to be over the top maybe I duNno. Okay. It's GONNA cost five hundred grand. Okay and no one is able to sue the other guy for court costs. Okay. WE'RE GONNA we'll settle this. Okay and if you think you're entitled to get a million dollars and your wife is and the rest of the police force and all other people get. That's one thing. But you guys are splitting this cost up front. Up Front I want two hundred and fifty grand from each side. That's gone. Okay and then we'll go ahead and we'll hear your case. Okay, that's what I would like to see happen. And that might straighten people out you know. I run I'm glad that you Jiri is now coming back with a countersuit for being put through all of this nonsense like those are serious allegations. And sullied his reputation I don't blame him for going back at Well, not just the guy the COP but for the police force, he works for for back in the whole thing up and putting him through all this. Those a serious allegations there lies and I don't blame the Guy Bet. We'd take a time when we come back, we'll talk about the NHL is change in format based on covert. Should they always let twenty four teams into the playoffs that's coming up after these words Jim K. Ford right now is pleased to announce the return of the Ford Bronco. Built with the toughness of the f-series and the spirit of a Mustang to reserve the all new. Bronco today go to four dot ca just make your selection and choose your dealership. We of course would love it. If you choose our good friends at Jim Cave Ford then get ready for the broncos to ride this spring. The legendary Bronco is back find out more at Ford DOT CA. 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This is cool. Okay. What I what I thought was a waste of time is watching these other games to sort out a seating for the. Top four teams in each conference. Right thing I didn't I was like fuck I got no interest in this. So what so he goes forth he goes I. It's like. And to my point. About, well, it's really important to. To settle out the the proper seating because these guys played so much better in the air and their first, and so it's unfair that if if they don't get a shot at you know being able to be the number one seed and play the sixteenth see. I don't. I. Don't know we're. Edmonton and. were, but they were pretty far apart. Edmonton was the best of the West and Chicago is the worst I said that after those upsets occurred with Montreal in Chicago getting through was like I would absolutely like those teams right now Chicago and Montreal all day long because they took advantage right? Like you say those are two teams playing with found money playing. And is the best of five. So we all know in a short series like that upsets are more inclined to occur and they did so to me in a winning one of those high ranking male top four scenarios being number would seed. That's a good thing to have one because you look at what Philly and what Vegas are doing with those two teams Vegas make sure it workers Chicago the Hawks are out and right now as we record this phillies a three one lead on Montreal though the series been closer than that Montreal scoring stride up. But the reality is it made a difference to have the number one seed. Got To take on teams like that. Yeah. I'll tell you what makes playoffs. Really interesting and riveting okay. Is is not so much not so much watching socal Colorado right is is is now the front runner? Okay. Right up there right call everyone say they're very good. Yeah. Colorado is going to rip their way through this thing. They're absolutely destroying things absolutely destroying them. They played tonight they're only they're only A. Two to one favorite you know and when I was looking at it, I said you know they're about their about a four to one favorite to win this game you know. What what does make it good Stephen, why this format is good. With these these eight play in round three or these four rounds you know the plan for the eighteenth. In each conference is. People love the underdog story. All the time. Okay. They love it. They love the Comeback Story. They like the no chance to win and the guy did it. It's people eat that up they eat it up and that's what makes sports so good in my mind, right? That everybody's got a shot. Everybody's got a shot here. You know, clean slate. And you're in the playoffs and on paper you've got no business being there. Okay. You really got lucky you snuck in there but but everyone sort of looks and goes. I hope they don't. They don't be my team. But that's the most fantastic thing about about. Sports in my mind. Is Is the surprise victory. Came from from you know absolute obscurity you know that they were nowhere and then the Saint Louis Right we always talk about that. And Dress Q. You know no one ever would give a Canadian shot to win them US Open. You know John, Daly a walk on sleeping in his car and walked on one. The PGA right that that that story will go down in history will go down in history you know. Met, many other things many other things in sports that that that make this thing. You think earlier in the year, the ZAMBONI driver. Who got? got called in I forgot his name ever David. Eyres David eyres right off the top of your head. Unbelievable Story. A macher, an amateur. Might be the story the NHL season was I know this this cove stuff the weirdness of the playoffs and the format that will be what we remember this year probably most four but if you're looking at a single hockey incident. That and maybe the Bobby Ryan Return but I got David number one it was just so unique and so cool because it's it's all of us right. So many of us are Bir Leaguers and dreamed of playing in the NHL. Never got even a sniff never got close to five levels below a lot of us like breast. It's such a dream and and here's the every man and he just gets a chance to play in an NHL, game and by the way wins the freaking thing and by the way as A. Very nice wife to. Even, even all these videos you see right there. That I think over the years when I started, I started flipping through youtube to watch these videos The non-professional level, high school level, they show these things i. Think of the Phoenix. Open. Last year Steve. Okay. And and Gary and Matt Kuchar were playing a practice round at the at the Phoenix Open you know the famous. Tournament. Now the let's crowd go bananas and and the Iconic Sixteenth hole there where it's formed an arena right people love at this grid there's great yet happening era they got caddy races they've they handled shirts and all this stuff it's great. Gary Woodland Matt Kuchar Show Up and they've they've been approached you know for a WHO has down syndrome. They would it be okay if you if she came on the T. and met you and said, hello and you know it's great awareness for it right at the and they say, yes, then woodland says. How. Would you like to play the whole with us and she says, absolutely, right All of us we see that going this could be a fiasco. Right this could be a fast go right there I I get what they're doing. That was great, and then the story becomes a dream come true. Okay I. It just becomes a a movie written over and over again and a really good movie. The girl okay. And if you haven't seen, it reminded again to go look at the girl hits hits a good shot. Into the Green greenside bunker, and now we're GONNA OKAY YOU WANNA keep plan Gary says she goes yeah absolutely. You got this gets cutest thing ever. You got this she kept saying yourself you got this. Knocks on the Green Place is going bananas. People are starting to tear up and she knocks the puck in for par. You know it's one of the greatest sports stories in a long time. You know this girl has no chance here. got. No chance this thing is going to bad it could be it could embarrass the PGA it could be an awful situation for this girl. You know what you know that that if she can't pull this off, you know it might set her back. You know she's going to and and and people it's it's the under doc. You know can you imagine that story that someone said we're going to down syndrome? Girl is GONNA come up and play golf with you guys. and. She might make park. There was no, she's not. Going to make. Par. So, and here's the background on the story. So woodland than the young. Woman in question is Amy Bacher Stat and after that occurred in and you described it nicely. They stayed in contact in the months after this, what turned out to be a viral video moment and woodland cited her as a major source of his inspiration after he had a major breakthrough last summer at Pebble Beach. And he said everywhere I go and you made the reference to amy saying I got this He says everywhere he goes he here's this people come up to me. I mean I. have adults come up to be crying because they've seen the video and they know somebody who has down syndrome the impact that it's had on other people has been tremendous. So to have been a part of that is absolutely amazing and you're absolutely right. It's is one of the most lovely sports stories I've ever seen. As the underdog, right. So when you bring up the thing about the format, you know, do we bring these other teams who who? Are the complete underdogs. Okay. They've got to go through this extra round. Of Best Five. Look shows like. You know that are that are so good. You know years ago survivor when it came out, you know this is completely when you look this this looks like you're going to get these people to do what you know. Yeah. We the unbelievable things here that we're gonNA put them through. Right. Well, that's a great idea then. So what you do is you treated like survivor and instead of doing this plan, it's the first eight teams that are willing to eat a bunch of cockroaches you late into the first round. I. My under south in there I liked I liked this format doing right now by the way, let twenty four teams in but there has to be some concessions on that like you have to make the season shorter. We're doing seven months, eighty two games. You'RE GONNA need to eliminate more than seven teams like he did this year. So if you're going to do more teams in the playoffs fine but bring me back to a fifty game regular season like they had way back in the fifties, right? Yeah I get the sort of short answer is yes. I do like it, and that's why I think that that thing works that people love to see you know. America's got talent. Steve, that's through the roof. Right or Britain's got all these country got talent show is because it? There's these unbelievable stories of these people who came from you know such a disadvantage you know. Life way bigger issues than you and I will ever have and then come through and win. This contest is like this is crazy. You know what a story and because people love the underdog. So I think it's I. Think it's a great idea. That the leases let's let's let's let the another. You know eight teams get a shot at this. You know let's let's. Get. A shot of this who who. Originally would never have had a chance wouldn't get your so I I mean the certainly they have underdog stories in the status quo before this year in years before it, it's always you know there's there's always been number sixteen seeds or eight seed in their conference but like the worst team that's in the play offs, those teams have won before they are always great stories but this format you know brings in even crazier underdogs and. You're like the underdog you probably want to go back to the old in a best team like of all the teams at the end of the regular season, the number one seed versus the number twenty, four seed. Now, if you have if you have an upset there, that's crazy. Maybe, maybe I. Bet You, give you to I'll give you to start to. Let's keep it a hockey because I'm going way off the page with all my other examples. But let's look at hockey and I'll give you the what I think are two of the greatest stories you know that made people sit up and go what what a freaking deal the. Miracle on Ice Nineteen Eighty Olympics. As we all know America wins the gold medal right? US wins the Goldman one, thousand, nine, hundred that right Steve's up. Dear. Yes. Yeah. So they win this thing that thing is that thing is was crazy nigger no chance that these guys. Okay and they win this thing people gable have hooked into that story Steve and will for five hundred years ago. You know the other one is no one gave the Russians a shot in. The summit series right nobody correct nineteen seventy-two knowing gave the Russians a shot and what did that create the Phil Esposito rant of beating up on fans and and it went went bananas you know. It's it's beyond getting caught off guard here. Is Beyond the first round first game of a seven round series and these guys beat us in the end up losing three one but it was it was pretty good story there for a minute. You know when they when they won that first game. But the that that thing right was that that opened up everyone's is gone look out look out here here come a bunch of underdogs trying to go after our sport. and. So. Yeah. It was a great story as game one was a little bit by, but the twenty minute mark of the game after the first period. I think the Soviet stopped being under talks. They're like, what they what? Wasn't around like Crazy Hornets L. over the ice like. You're not skating. You're on your wing going what is It was a wakeup call in a big old hurry not to mention that all the NHL players that summer had been working on is their Molson muscle and they did not take those guys get seriously whatsoever. So that's part of what all made it A. Certainly leading into the tournament. A. Great Underdog story, but it didn't last long. But back to the NHL I'm down you can talk me into keeping twenty four teams. Again all having a shot at the Stanley Cup he can talk me into that. But if you're GonNa do that then you have to again make the regular season shorter because again, seven months in eighty two games just too much. You know if you want underdogs then let everybody in you know don't even have a regular season you're making people pay thousands, tens of thousands of dollars in some cases to be season ticket holders in the NHL to support the team through the long regular season you. have to make being those games meaningful and the more teams you let in the less meaningful, the regular season becomes. So you can talk me into twenty four teams continuing to be in the playoffs after this year, but it's got to be a short a regular season or I'm not signing up for that right I agree baseball look at baseball. Steve for year to make a change in baseball right they rigid man you know they are rigid in my hands for we're changing any rule here right? Baseball is. If you look at Vera Historian of baseball right? One of the really interesting things is is the game they were playing in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty s. the basic rules of that game have never changed, right? It's been three outs. forever, you run the same faith based path. I it's been like that. Forever the fields is the same size in. You're doing James Earl Jones speech from field of dreams. Yeah. So but they finally right to your point. Is said, okay we gotta have more teams in these playoffs right? Because we've we've been around in that time was was just the league champions was it was only two rounds of the playoffs, right? That was it. It was like there was four divisions and each winner of each division made the playoffs the only thing baseball they should do. Is. Shorten the game. I think. A curling right there this ten anthony and curling, right? Okay. We're Luke people are people are walking out of the arena. I was surprised to hear that I didn't know that was such a common thread. So on inside curling, we've had a chance to already talked to so many people big names in curling including Kevin Martin the Co host of it, and like everybody wants to be shortened eight ends. Right still tenant in. some of the some of the events. Some of this feels you know the slams they've they've. So anyway, they're going to do it. You know they complain about the length of Baseball Games all the time and and everyone what's really weird is everyone keeps saying, well, we got a short in commercials. We've got to put a clock on the pitcher. You've got to deliver the pitch inside whatever it is thirty seven, all all his talk, all this arc later, do they got to reduce visits to the mound? They got to reduce visits by the catcher? Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah right. The answer is make it seven innings now and you don't have to worry about any of that shit. That's all you gotTa do shortly game right and and all that goes out the window you know donate it I don't hate it I'm a bit of a purist I dislike the idea of nine but certainly seven would be fine as well. it is a bit of a slow moving game. I. Think. We all have shorter attention spans than we did fifty years ago I'm open data some of those ideas for sure for today by the way. Do WanNA mention we are involved in a couple of other podcasts as well. By the time we speak. Right now see. Okay. So inside curling new episode will be out. The suspended will be out We're twenty four hours away from another sends nation podcast as well. So please check those out available. We're all fine podcasts can be found. Yeah. Thanks man. Steve. I wonder if you're a little little twitchy right now after after all my takes today. Going Journalists. Pardon the interruption may snap them up. OFF I know what you're staying I don't necessarily Rodney. Game Ball goes to jerome well done. Hurt. Oh You know what? It's everyone loves the underdog and no one ever gave me a Shana good jake's no one. No what I got nothing. And yet today. Breaking. Time. Cigarette. Noah good night everybody. Take that good night everybody. Also, a good take.

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Short Stuff: Honorary Degrees

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Short Stuff: Honorary Degrees

"Yeah. Hey there in welcome to short stuff. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charleston beach brand-new Jiri over there. And we are right. Smack dab in the middle of entering graduation season and were three doctors we are self proclaimed really really even have three on a rare to create night exactly are in crayon in our own handwriting. Yeah. So this, you know, we talked about this in a recent episode about honorary degrees. And this ended up being kind of encapsulating. What's perfect about short stuff is? We can explain everything you need to know about honorary degrees in like twelve minutes. We can explain it in one second marketing. Yeah. That's gonna kinda true. But it is a little more interesting than that. Let's talk about the history because not all universities, give honorary degrees. Yeah. Very famously university of Virginia. VA MIT Stanford and Cornell do not give honorary degrees William Barton. Rogers, founder of MIT said they are unfriendly to true literary advancement and of spurious merit in noisy popularity. And William Barton Rogers, graduated UVA. So that's kind of double Katie with the idea that you shouldn't have you shouldn't give away doctorates and UVA was founded by Thomas Jefferson, who is the one who put that ban on them. Right. But he accepted an honorary doctorate from Harvard. It's a bit of a double standard. Yep. Probably not the only double standard Thomas Jefferson's ever ever been involved with. Yeah. But here's the secret. Well, it's not a secret at all. Here's the very plain truth that everyone knows about honorary degrees since the beginning of time. They have been used to they say to reward donors who have given money, right? Sometimes bring in celebrities for appeal for like media appeal for graduation ceremonies and such like that. But it's really just for whatever reason it's a way to get some press by knowledge ING, someone that you think as university. Somewhat aligns with your values as university, right? Yeah. Alternately? That's the goal is to it's not just somebody's. But somebody who is doing something that you're. Yeah. Versity values are everybody can get behind right? Yeah. And it started in Europe, not even here in the US. No over at Oxford. A believe the first one was handed out to a guy named Lionel. That's a pretty good fifteenth century name. It was given out to him. He was an influential Bishop and he he got his honorary doctorate unbidden. It was a bit of a surprise from what I understand is kinda showed up at his house. And they said, so congratulations also totally unrelated we were thinking that you might come be chancellor of the university. Now since you're doctrinal. All right. I can do that. I can bring some I wealthy connections with me to to to Oxford, which by the way was about four hundred years old by this time. Seventy eight. So they were the first one to confer an honorary degree, and they kicked off a a grand tradition that is basically kind of waxed and waned throughout the years, but mostly wok st- in doozy. Azam in abuse. I guess is the word I'm looking for. Yeah. King Charles the first speaking of abuse, he really got honorary degree happy. He ended up three hundred and fifty Oxford doctorates two people that of course, supported his court mall within one single year as a lot as a lot. It's almost one a day by Mike occupation. Christmas and thanksgiving right await thanksgiving. Not then. Yes, you're no saint's day. So king Charles. I was the first tube use it. He was far from the last by the nineteenth century. They were so many degrees being handed out left. And right, honorary degrees that they actually had a depressing effect on the important of actual doctorate. We're being earned which is a big problem. Right. And the the president of the north eastern dental association who's typically a mouthpiece for morality in direction in academia, famously warned in nineteen ten that the most dangerous delusive debauch ING and degrading the four DS thing in American educational life is the practice of granting unearned degrees. That's pretty harsh. It was very. Harsh. But you know, and the guy was obviously hysterical. But, but it does get get across this point that that it was it was getting a little a little much. I guess is the point by the nineteenth century, and it's calmed down tremendously. But especially here in the states, but it's still going on. It just seems to be a little. A little less problematic than I think it was before. Because at some point somebody said, okay. All right. Let's just let's just yes, you can keep giving out degrees. But people who are getting these honorary degrees do not attempt to use them like they're legitimate. And that seems to change the course of things. Yeah. All right. So let's take a break. We'll talk a little bit about how this happens who picks these people in some regrettable choices right after this. We need to talk about something Chuck. Yes. Constipation abdominal pain and bloating. That's right, man. You tell yourself. It's not that bad. You take laxatives modify your diet and exercise routine but thinking about it all the time is frustrating. Yeah. Do you? Find yourself making up excuses instead of admitting to people that you don't wanna go out because you're really worried about leaving home despite your best efforts to feel better your symptoms. Keep coming back is this right Yemen. This feels all to relatable, you are not alone. If your gut symptoms return again, and again, and again, you don't know why it may be time to seek help like thirteen million others, you might have a real medical condition called irritable bowel syndrome with constipation or IBS C. Yup. To get more info about your symptoms, and I be SC go to my gut dot info slash podcast and learn about your constipation, abdominal pain and bloating. And if you're ready. Out ways to talk to your doctor or access one online. That's my gut dot f NFO slash podcast. All right. So it is a big deal to do this. A lot of times it is to get someone like Jerry Seinfeld at your graduation ceremony on these doctrines. I'm sorry. Sorry, everybody. That was pretty good. I'm trying to sound you sounded like not, Jerry Seinfeld. David brenner. Probably. Okay. Sure. And they do say honorary degrees serve as a way to inspire the students graduating that day. So that is that is the reason most people do that get Conan get Jerry Seinfeld in there. And a lot of you know, most schools will have a board that decides this kind of thing and they need to start well in advance. So typically you'll start like a year out just seeing if the person is interested, and if the schedule might align, and I don't know if it's it probably works differently at every school. I don't know if it's in writing as a requirement to come to graduation or more like, and we'd like to give it to you in person on this date at our football stadium. They're like come on. That's kind of the deal is you're supposed to show up. And that's really I think sort of the unwritten rule. Yeah. Because I mean, if you go to college graduation, that's like. I mean, that's the show stopper. That's the reason people sit there is because ones. There's somebody very bright. Yeah. It is very very boring. It's just like can't you just like Email this to these people the there, there should be a very recognizable, and or inspirational indoor funny person speaking at a decent graduation ceremony, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a celebrity. They still give these big donors. But I think that that means that you have more of a mountain to climb to impress people because you're still expected to give like. Amazing caliber remarks at the commencement exercises. Yeah. And when you tease before the break about, hey, everyone like you understand that you're not a real PHD or God forbid a medical doctor? The the thing is like they know they're not. But there have been some notable people that have called themselves. Doctor whatever after they got this Florida Atlantic university takes very seriously and their rules. They say in no instance, while the recipient of an honorary doctorate from FAU represent the award as being an earned doctorate or of earned academic credential of any kind this award does not entitle the recipient to use the title of doctor or a pin PHD or any other earned degree designation after his or her name, and basically they say at the end like if we catch you doing this to you. We could take it away. We're going to take it away. We're this meaningless pieces of paper right away. From you don't even register at your hotel under Dr Bryant. I've been known to do don't even don't even have your wife. Call you doctor because we'll find out. Yeah. Because we're listening. So it's not just Florida Atlantic university take seriously, there is a grove City College, professor psychology. Professor Warren Throckmorton who apparently one day realize that some general funding was about to run out. And he did a survey of university policy statements about the use of doctorates of of honorary doctorates and basically to to university. It's like, let's just be clear here. This actually doesn't mean that you are doctor of anything or that you have a PHD do not let us catch you using this. This is a this is a big deal because again back in the nineteenth century, they were handing out MD's, basically, everything and people were like, yeah. Call me, call Dr Dangerfield, you know, and it was a it was a big problem. So now, they seem to have it under. Under control. Although there have been some people in recent years that still said now whenever you give me a doctorate, I'm gonna use doctor. I don't care what you think of me because I'm Maya Angelou. Yeah. A gift to the world. Ben Franklin did that after getting degrees from Oxford University of Saint Andrews, and like you said with my Angela, it's one of those things where you know. It's not super cool. But who's going to go tell my Angela what to do nobody nobody? They'll get palm of their face. Yeah. I mean, I can imagine her speaking in that great voice of hers than I would just shrink. Right. You know? I was about the dry do my Angela. But there's no way you would not rise you shrink. Oh, look at that drink, and then there have been some very regrettable and rescinded PHD's honorary PHD's over the year. Of course, Bill Cosby has many many of these, and they were I think probably all taken away. Yeah. I believe including from his alma mater temple. But the first one was Yale with with Yale. He became the first in three hundred years to have their has honorary degree taken away at least by Yale University. But yeah, everybody started following suit after that. Yeah. There's a few more legendary late DJ from England Jimmy Saville. Oh, he's terrible. Wow. He was terrible human because it was exposed later in his life that he was one of the most prolific pedophile and the history of Britain. They took away his honorary degree. Oscar Pistorius his way. Yeah. Who else Donald Trump had one rescinded really from who Trump diversity? You say that as if it's a real thing. No, I had it written down. But I can't find it now, but he got an honorary degree that was taken away while he was running for president because of anti Muslim remarks. Oh, and they were like that. We're taking that back. It's cool. Yeah. And there's there's more and more. I could listen to these all day. Well, I think we should campaign to get them from our own all mowder. Well, you know, a somebody wrote in from an unnamed they not by us, but they wouldn't name what college they work at. But it's in Canada. And they said, they do honorary degrees up there too. And I believe as a she said that she was working to get us on route degrees. So fingers crossed. Yes. A a we'll make fun of these up until and including when I have one. Okay. That's a deal. I'm going to hold you to that. Yeah. Well, I guess that's it for honorary degrees. We've got this article from house to work. So you can go check it out if you like and in the meantime, short stuff out. Stuff. You should know is production of heart radios. How stuff works for more podcasts. My heart radio. Visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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