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Ep 112 - Strider, Briefly discuss Iran, Oscars, Celebrity Softball

Going Deep with Chad and JT

1:45:41 hr | 9 months ago

Ep 112 - Strider, Briefly discuss Iran, Oscars, Celebrity Softball

"A. The the big time data with the fresh saltwater Q. would've what up stoker's are stuck nation. This is Chad kroeger coming in with the going deeper. Jt podcast guys before we begin. I want to remind you once again again that we brought to you by manscaping landscape. Thank you so much for keeping. Our TRIMs Cubed for looking after our hogs for making sure there are Dong pieces are looking fresh rush like a Greek statue before Pompeii exploded. Okay because guys when you traveled on a neighborhood when you go down the street maybe a cold the second you see them nicest lawn on the street. What do you think your guests our? Yeah I think they got a good lawn mower and we want to apply applied that same philosophy to your pews. So next time you're looking to groom yourself maybe Shave your face grabbed the Lomber. Two Point Oh and Chimney Dong with the lawnmower to point ahead go twenty minutes get dot Com supposed to make you look bigger here too. I've yeah that's true did when you're a young man to and that's like top of your head at all times for that for those optics. Yeah so true. Dude alter that perspective nice you gotta use you got a small dog. Do you like me. Did you use any thing. In the arsenal you can gain a few inches. You know even optical illusion like the right. Yeah it's good for your self confidence and I'm so grateful that we have a wonderful company. That's looking out for or dudes of all ages sizes and dons and ladies to I mean this is for this is not exclusive for dude. Yeah Yeah Guy off cubes. You know the applies to everyone. You can trim that up. Sorry start the motor wack the weeds get in there with alum or maybe the ball deodorant. Yep that's nice does have like a gold product image but you know had like gold bond e type elementary. It's a hot day. I know what I'm crushing Valet. Golan a gold bonds bad for you. Well really like the Talcum Talcum powder is like Has Disease Inducing Chemicals. I can't get more specific than that but I've heard from a couple of folks I mean. Look I don't want to be this dude. uh-huh kills you nowadays. It totally does I know. I know there's like you go. What's that prop sixty five everywhere you go on? A building is just like dude. There's chemicals that cause cancer here. A baby is going to get Zeke if you cruise in here for you know Super Bowl party or something. Yeah Dude Rebecca posted on instagram. About how Almond Almond Milk oxalate scary world out. There that's why we gotta stay stoked use that Noggin to overcome any potential. Chill disease or sickness that tries to come into your body's seize your Noggin Nam. Stoke to stokes for Talcum Yup to stoke for Whatever that thing is that causes respiratory issues? I'm interested in with that lately. Because you know dealing with all my hypochondria and I was like could stoke overcome any illness for sharing and I was like. It can't stop the illness but I can remain stoked while I have the onus. Yeah for sure that'd be even if I had savage the jail s at the end of it if I can only move my cheek smile Oh did I love that. Oh that'd be a nice smile. It's a nice image for like the end of a movie movie or something like that like an inception style thing. Do you pull off the heist dude. So if you just had that those muscles to move is but then it's revealed that because we want that Hollywood ending that you took that built in order to get out because that's like your alibi we see you sprinting on a frigging beach dude. The your love interest is on a horse student he goes cruise. That's awesome. I think you have the right chest for that like the right ratio of of chest hair where you could ride a horse with a lady in it. Look Jake Regal for sure I agree. Jt Has Romance Romance novel. Cover chest hair. Like stuff due to Thank you see I got no fill on my I think my chest lettuce looks pretty nice but as far as my muscle goes I got pop. Don't know how much filled party that wants to be alone with the lady on the cover of that romance novel novel. But there's a bigger part of me that's like I feel kind of isolated in that situation how we bring in some other dudes bring your dogs in. Yeah I love that do we should frigging. What have we would've went horse? Dale do I have an idea. What crack has I'm stoked on it love? Let's smick calendar. Oh shirtless on different horses. You know I'm talking Pomeranian Arabian aw western Palomino Palomino 's Hell Yeah mustangs broncos. I don't know if those are the same. A Bucking Bronco. Another idea to what every month month is June dude dude. That's a fire audit. We just invent a calendar too. The Romans invented a calendar Myers. How do I get the vibes from June? Some people say June gloom the June gloom gets me but you know my my visor so high because he got summer movies movies coming in hot. You know you have some sort of Independence Day. Come down the pipe and then it's just you feel the best because summers there and you know what else it is dog in the beginning of summer summer behind it. Yeah and you're an artist. You like this sick but the sickness is about to be cured. Your wrestling even worse sickness arrests with the summer mortality. Yes in June 'til beginning dude. Every month is just beginning dude. I love that calendar is a really Eliya. I think that'd be fire. I love the Horse One. I just wonder if we should spread Images around like one of US paint balling Go during Yup up one of us just posted at my desk that good sunlight coming in I love that. Maybe we in therapy you in the bath reading a nice novel novel to do that's fine I straddle you posted up at your desk fiction lately writing down errands. Oh Yeah I love to craft up a nice to do list analogous get stuff done. Yeah that's exactly what would be your ideal image to see us a calendar on I mean certainly on waves runners. Maybe you you know way runners do off. I think that's the first June. Just come out firing tone. COBB AH boated. Jt in that death. Ron Dude so far I think I'm GonNa save me in a golf cart in the middle of the desert like okay. I see it as a double decker. Golf Cart thanks so hell. Yeah Dude Dude. Few Golf Cart. They're I'm talking like Death Valley. I mean the Real Scottsdale. Now that'd be say I like Scottsdale and I was thinking he's home springs because they got a lot a lot of golf courses out there too. Yeah they got that Great Mary or they shot some say by the bell. Six from place to place. Oh travel from place. Nice to place by boat. I like I like golf courses where there's a boat and then a bridge I'll take it. I like walking on bridge. It is fired over a bridge when you're golfing and let's be honest. The Best Part Golfing is obviously Kim with your boys out there and having a nice time did or if you go for your Jeff. That's very chill two couples golf but just cruising in the golf cart. I used to make the golf carts. One day I'll get to drive. Yes yes and then I had friends who were like. Let's walk the course and I'm like why would I rob myself. The best part of the golf course. Exactly Walk Dude nodded and for proof that you should never walk the course. My Dad and brothers is one hundred and ten degrees one summer. We were golfing. And they're like we're going to walk the course to them. I am like you guys are insane. It's like hundred ten degrees. Let's let's take that car crews and then we got stopped for lunch. I got the salon. Show line to Keita's Keita's because we are walking the course I shit myself on the course is I had to. I'd like hide behind. A Bush is like fourteenth a whole and the The driver whatever the fuck you got the the tee box so tired of jargon dude. Yeah the tee box was like twenty feet away these dudes routine. He's routine these dudes off like thirty feet away. And I was just laying it down behind Bush really dude. That's awesome house. He should have taken the car. Wait so did you get any How'd you wipe your bunk due to me asking Why did the deed and then I walked back to the clubhouse and took care of business boost? Yeah do one hundred ten one one time. My Dad and I were playing a scramble onto separate teams golf and I'd like the fifteen toland was really come down to the wire and he was like this is my boss like that's it's not your fault. It's my fucking ball that's my fucking ball and we both start screaming at each other. And then some guy pulls up in his golf carts SORTA lose to. It was his book. Ah Do Muhdad. Love Planes Speed Golf Dude. He would be in a car. But I'd have to walk dude bill character or something else taking too much time on the green like you know my ball replace like ten strokes on one hole and there's a group behind us want us to go MMJ are just pick up like let's let's go. My Ball was in the trap in on the Ledge of a pretty deep trap and it was. I didn't see so he's like he's telling me to hurry up. He's like way over like to my left and the traps on my right literally trip trip on this rake tumble like to probably like three feet. Drop into the trap. My clubs spill everywhere. Did I rake. It took fifteen minutes dude brutal so it was hilarious to Reagan when you have to walk backwards to rake your feet. Oh Yeah and then he stepped out of it. It's tough whenever you see footprints in the trap to. Oh yeah guys guys not raking do at home. Yeah Etiquette you got etiquette out there for sure for sure. Jt and I had a pretty epoch day. Yeah it was really really cool. I was nervous before dude I got I was first one there. I'm always first one of these days. Yeah Yeah Stop Ballgame Celebrity softball game and we saw the lineup. The fuck are we doing here dude. Do his belong dude. Got Manufacturing runs out there too is like Roblo dog. Roth was their life. Roth Jamie Fox is supposed to come. He didn't show up. And there's like mentioned dodgers. And then Jimmy Taylor Tro Tro Rob mcilhenny caitlyn Olsen Adam Sandler a-rod. Yeah Tiffany Haddish. Yeah I was definitely like what am I doing I I I call them like. He's like he's like this is extravagant operation. I was pumped on the swag. I'm wearing the sneakers. I got under armor sneakers and some big at some big bad ass back well and then if I were like I was so nervous to play. I was like mom and I don't WanNa embarrass myself. There's like four hundred people watching the cameras and everything barstools there. And then there's all these pro athletes elites who are dude athletes or cooler than entertainers. They haven't or presents. If it's a current athlete I think once they retired diminishes a bit but a current athlete is as cool against because they can just do stuff to no one else can do and physically they're just like they just dominate. And they're just tall and just jacked and they've always always been cool so you have that inner confidence. There's no self doubt they're just walking around like dude. Genetically Blessed Beasts other especially. I mean these guys has were in their element though to baseball thing. Yeah and kids love them like little kids go crazy for athletes and I was so nervous to play but then so it was like batting practice and I went up there and I had a pretty good session and then I got competent dude. I'm ready to shell nice and then But it was a thirty person team and I think they put you up in order of like how much audience excitement you wouldn't do. So I was like two thousand nine hundred thirty and cleanup dude I pitch. I'm shaking but I keep my hands loose like for our told me said. Hold the bat really loose. Someone can almost pull without your hands because when you swing naturally your hand naturally tighten up. It's good advice and I just went for a low one knocked down the third baseline start running jogging. Oh 'cause there's a person on I I think they're probably gonNA get them Benami. That realize all the pros on their team are actually playing so like Dallas Braid in like rifles to second base uh-huh and then like Ryan bronze waiting for it and so I started running as hard as I can and I got thrown out by a mile stem. Matt Barnes is footed I. It was pretty hilarious. Nervous too. Scared cool jared. Goff was on first base. It's the ball. They're both out. He's like worst thing. That could have happened. Worst possible outcome. I was like no you gotta hit and he got a good story dude. You got a ball bat on ball. That's what counts strike out. You know. Yeah I had to fully extend but I was just misread like the trajectory on it. Yeah it's so hard to playing baseball so my baseball career was a joke. Dude I should just cruise to the snack bar. My mom had to coax at Tanner did yeah crushing hotdogs. Auxerre Nuggets dudes afraid of the ball. I had a pretty decent hit. You smacked into the outfield. Yeah like Jok Peterson out there. Yeah he grabbed a quick. It was like. Is this a homer. Is it not only got the hit once softball. Now we're gonNA train really hard and come next year come in with a vengeance. We should join a league errands. Yeah air respect for you because we know you're like top dog in your league. It's not easy no it is not and I'm I mean I'm top dog some lease some leagues. I'm like you know in some of these men's leagues. I can't even compete with the best. It's crazy how good some of these guys are. Yeah it's insane. I mean do the natural power that some of these guys has had like Chris Bachus. Do you know who he is who he plays for but he was taking it serious. He hit two Dinger's off just like using hundred foot blast we're at pepperdine to. That's such a nice campus. Yeah Oh and then after the game to everyone's lieven all the pro players are getting into their cars roll. Waiting there's fans I tried to get autographs from everybody and a valet is bringing the cars up and it goes lambeau. SUV FOR POMERANZ. Who He plays for next? Guy's Rolls Royce. Suv and then they go. Hey who's as previous pools up and like my car is a fucking disaster. I've got like lawn chairs in the bag. Close everyone else me man just hop Eh between like a Lamborghini and really rob lowe's Porsche and my Ford escape hybrid with dense. All all over. Yeah I gave me they like say your name and what you do to. Jt Par from the going deep Chattan. Jt Prius yes. Oh yes me man when they introduce introduced me as goes deep last night. He's like a great though for baseball team. We got goes goes deep. And I'm like what the best part was getting to ban here with leg like Rob Lowe dropped one in the outfield hash ran up to and I want to having avenue worst case scenario dot com here for you worst case scenario dude. I have to commend him on his hand too. I mean He. He looked phenomenal. Good Looking Guy. Yeah but you forgot about the cars Paul enough. That was pretty hilarious. And then a bunch of students were lined up to like see everyone you know so it was like they're like Taylor's carpools would do next year did all frigging valet there and just pull you up there. I'll pull rods. car-free by accident goes deep Go go go. And then the best athlete of all the actors types was the guy from candyman which he's last name was todd. Todd Tony Todd legit athlete really. Oh yeah he was like he's pretty old too. Yeah but he can move and he was belting yes. I don't even think they let them take home. MVP 'cause I think they count him in the athlete category. Oh Yeah. He's a beast. Oh No bacchus got MVP because he took it serious. Oh Yeah We. None of our we had we had Christian Yelich as our manager. And he's he's coming off an injury so he couldn't play so we had to like. I was like to go up to the pros sauce. I wanted to go to the pros and back guys. Let's fun we got in the outfield Dow's cool AB- uh-huh grounder throw it to rob lowe execute the play a fish. I should've I should've hit second base through it the first since I was is nervous though yeah dude and look you know. We're not marriage situations out here too. I get it done rifle. The ball playing a full size nice field. It sounds like it's not like a fence a little bit. They have their own little makeshift. Yeah I don't want anybody running into that thing. Full speed call. Paul was hilarious. The worst thing that could yes besides triple play which once a century has never happened in softball. Aw I've seen it I I'd say triple plus I'd say no one noticed. All he knows is that you hit the ball right right but to me. I think it was just funny to me. Striking out swinging would be way worse. Yeah Yeah but it's real soft pasta like two to three times on it. I mean it's not like college level softball pitchers. They're not even trying to put any sort of like parabola on it to get you to Miss S.. They're like literally like put the Paula Patton. Tiffany Haddish League grounders with is a good hit. Though I put awesome stick to it. I mean I'll never put that video out for as long as I live at least until next year. If I have a I think it looks thank you. Hey Hey I've been playing a long time. You gotta hit hard to into a double play. Yeah Oh thank you. Yeah Go. Play had pro players sling on me. Yeah exactly yeah but Yeah Shad to California strong. That charity This guys are beasts well last week because I've been so morbid lately I didn't realize talking to the CO creator the event. I hope nobody gets hurt. I'm like dude sometimes celebrities diet these things he was like what are what are you talking about. He got ghost is still. There's Ted Demme in like two man. He had some cocaine in his system playing basketball. Drop Dead Bro. When I was like all right later man and then I looked on instagram and stuff never happens you okay? Man Did the candyman series kill. Someone don't say his name dude he's get some. PTSD dudes what else. So Iran Situation Wall Mama will have Iran. That's heavy. Yeah Yeah the Academy Award. Nominations came out months part time in. Hollywood I'm always GONNA love it. Although in nineteen seventeen was epic. Sal Love Nineteen hundred parasites the best movie. I've seen like oh almost my forever. Good and J.. Lo didn't get the nod. Dude me my Jeff Watch hustlers together. We're like setting I right now. She looked at. HBO's going to remake parasite into a miniseries advocates producing. Yeah I think everyone's kind of how I think that'll be good. They'll figure yeah. HBO Crushes this crash. I love HBO but soon among you gotta do it down. It takes a while to make these things thing about parasite I I I loved it and I thought it was amazing movie but it did have the rewatch pull factor for me. I think I was kind of like. I'm done yeah I mean yeah I would definitely be watch it but it does have the way where the story goes. You have no idea when you're first watching it. So that I I watch is huge. It's like unreal and it has revelations up until the last moment. Yeah Yeah Yeah it keeps unfolding and you're like Whoa. I can't believe it went there. Oh my God i. Can't I believe in went there. Yeah home I kinda like weaves and circuits together totally do very American even though it's a movie about Korea spoiler spoiler alert. How do you guys interpret the ending like It's optimistic or pessimistic. Do you think he was dreaming about that feature outcome. Yeah Yeah I think that's what he hopes to accomplish to me. What that meant? Is that like even though he had been through all that thing all those things to capitalistic dream that you'll rise above your circumstances stances is so powerful that it will it will bring itself back to you. Is your solution for any problem right. And so he's like he's like no no. I can still fix existing. Yeah I just have to achieve more. Yeah I thought that was at those Trudeau. Yeah people think I agree and and not even that hard of a spoiler a little something there but nothing. Yeah someone's never seen it. They'll still be fired up bill surprise but yet you walk walks that line nicely of JT. Santa Perfect Yeah. That's a good answer. That's will old school. When cusack James Cavill they raised like I have no response the raging Louise? Guess Oh Jimmy. I'm glad yes. I actually had to take this. Take step in here. He's conservative really. Yeah opposites attract do and then Kellyanne Conway's husband's yet. Have you heard the theory that she's the White House mole. WHOA interesting yeah? That'd be really interesting. Because she would be performing. At least she seems like the exact opposite. Yeah Eh wouldn't that be crazy. That's like a movie at right there. That's going to be the best movie ever. Yeah she infiltrated the stakes are so high. She's undercover covered. Did someone we're watching it one way and then we'll get to experience it a second way. That will be like the more true. Yeah it'll be like it'll just. Oh my God I remember when that happened. Wait that's what she was. Actually doing you have so much like Yeah that's interesting contextual power Do what about a Megan markle. And and a Prince Harry abdicating their royal membership. Yeah turning in their country club card and being like Nah we're going to go play and another country club. And that was what I watched the their wedding. Now's watching. I was watching the whole ceremony. This is so cool. You know just said you've been being at Prince and then you get married and everyone's watching the coolest thing ever and it's so romantic. I was fired up. Watch I got up early to watch it. Yeah that's how fired up on Romance I was but then again. I've read her side of this. Not really her what she's saying but her interpreted side of the story with with like the tabloids and how they're just there's some controversy surrounding Prince William and Middleton that maybe he was having an affair with one of her friends and then they were so they were manipulating the press to attack Meghan to take attention off of that. Yeah that pissed off. Because he's like do this when our dad she didn't on our mom exactly. Yeah and so and with the way Princess Diana was treated with the press right like basically that she died. Oh Man Yeah. This is like the second the best movie ever. Yeah so not to make light of the tragic and then so so Meghan markle. I mean if you look at like the headlines. There's like an article comparing during the two headlines for like Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle and hers are just like way more negative and they're just clearly attacking her so I think the reason why they mindue. She's like I'm out like I don't WanNa be part of this. And and I've I've liked Prince Harry's moves like his whole life they say parties hard. Yeah and then. He joined the military and I remember one time he was doing. I saw a clip where he was doing interview when he was a dog. And they're like Mike and him up and then like an alarm goes off like get to your stations and he just rips off runs to his helicopter. Yeah and then now his ladies not being treated right he's like you know what I'm bailing out. He it seems like an honorable. Do fired up. He's sticking next to lady do. That's what's up dude. I love that dude. It's cool. They just can't take dough from the Royal Oil Fund now or something like that. Yeah yeah it'll be a JILLION dollars to like show up in nightclubs and stuff. I hope they moved to. La like Prince. Harry and Meghan Markle will be at sound tonight. Got Eric Prydz di Jiang. I'm booking their Elliott. Let's go yeah yeah yeah that'd be fired. I could see I could see doing that. strider with your like a mattis prince stuff do take take my royal credential bounce. Yeah did my Jeff for sure to you know. Do First of all dude. She's a protested frigging legit legend. And I think both of us do. We don't need those titles. Dude we just you need a frigging having each other's back dude. And that's what's that's what's up dude owning some thrown. You don't need. I mean look traditions tight but if there's all this other stuff going on that's on on show like in the royal family later dude. I love that Oh problem to bounce a where do you think that they're going to move to Canada and they're gonNA come here right Eh. It's from what I read. They're going to split time between Canada and the UK but they got to come to La Dot com royalty here and God do his city council with Prince Harry and do wer. That'd be fired. A rage with Prince Harry that should be resolution resolution to rage with Harry. It's funny when they when they really young Prince William was like the more handsome one and he was kind of like the cool one and now Harry flip the script Yeah do you remember Prince Scientists. Funeral I do I do too. I didn't know what was going on. I was so young but my mom was like America's my Momma said. Yeah she's like mint chip ice cream watching I remember. Mother Theresa died around the same time and everybody was like sorry. Yeah I like to different form of interest. Sorry did and then Christopher Hitchens wrote did a story called Hell's Angel About Mother Teresa and how she was actually like Just on the Dole for the church like really yeah. I was just like helping them like bring ugly capitalism places where people needed to be protected. It's pretty interesting ashes. You can watch it on Youtube. But he goes after like he's like oh like a lot of those places that she started to take care of people they would just let the people die and had they fought for more basic medical equipment. They could have saved. A lot of those people is interesting. Yeah Yeah I mean. It's tough to go after Mother Teresa Mother Teresa. It's a bold move. Yeah yeah that's what I like to go out on a limb. Yeah Yeah what are you. What are you working on gun attack on Theresa exactly do all right all right later later so you want to does or exactly did what else has been going on in your life post and dude got the fluted get get? Get Your frigging flu shots. Dude Jeff telling me the whole time and my mom the Battelle me since like September and I'm like nod. Don't get the flu for like old people and babies my Hubris Dude Bom got drill nutshell. Wouldn't wish on my worst enemy so but now stoked you know makes me feel. We'll take for granted you know when you're feeling healthy but now bounced back dude feeling good dude killing it and drilling it out there earner burnin doing it right kicking with my dog so fired up Demo Jeff Parts looking good dude we Got A bed frame due to tight. It's nice very cozy dude and so so just loving. That adult moved through to get a bed frame you know. We had a box spring mattress on top for a while saving some dough and then finally pulled all the trig and got the bed frame really really really brought the bedroom together it looks nice studio. I'm fired up on. What was it like living spaces? Its off white and and we got an eastern King Dude. My Boy Danis at sit and sleep kept trying to tell me he's a tall guy. Starter did you gotta get the California King. I'm like nodded. You want that width. I want that it's more important to have that room rolling rolling from side to side like you can feel alone in that bed. You know it's nice having that trust knowing that I got my rock next immediate but it's also nice known that from having a dream where I'm getting fired up with enough. I'm dreaming about posing up on jet skis with my dog amp did yeah. I don't WanNa throw her anybody right. It's just Fired up on that safe distance in bed to get elated. Exactly yes yes. That's seldom and undersold point with. Should really touching your butterfly. Exactly exactly dude. I'm trying to elevate evading adult ways to daddy's making eggs and bacon own ears. Dude was less time you you could get like. I haven't cooked in my apartment. Daddy was forming some eggs. We got garl- ED's Bay no I don't I just cook but I like that. I was doing something more on that flight. Bananas Fosters Astor's Cherry Jubilee Bay. Light It on fire and so I've I accidentally my flip. Them sometimes yellow breaks. Yeah then it just congeals nicely again. I'm not mad at it. You make an almond or set up or what. Yeah I'm doing over. Medium primarily a dank that bacon coming out sizzling. I love being hired. Hired Do you remember. I'm not a big bacon. Guy Do alleys for I look. I know I'm in the minority. I know not necessarily right but John. I mean with eggs Bacon. Nice do but I don't need three strips. Give me one strip. I'm good dude. And then when it's in other stuff and it's nice and Cobb due to forgiveness watermelon chunk of Bake and you know what I mean do a nice little charlotte but it's a greedy ingredient. You put it in stuff just begging did. Yeah but you know what I make. It's like a pack of Bacon Oscar. Mayer I'll eat half of it. I'M GONNA make baking tonight. Do I'm trying to get new pants my birthday tomorrow. Sorry no I'm trying to get my folks to give me some new pans. Go A nonstick did go call to action that is. It's what my job that I have just makes it easy. You like to wash it off afterwards. Put Cheese on there and it will come later. They rule is Don't put metal against it because it takes that stuff and then did. I'm sure someone will write in with like the nonstick stuff bad to get into your food. Yeah there's some you know fucking shopping's heist trader Joe's just walking around. That could be nice. Yeah Yeah but I. I got a little over ambitious. I bought some sausages. That you have to cook. All six in three weeks does not have to I I've been I've been cooking to one one of my neighbors. I've been cooking making scrambled eggs. Some Bacon maybe I'll avocado and locks nice salmon. Hell yeah some olive oil and red wine vinegar on that just feels up my noggin. You made lunch today to what was that. It was ground beef tomato and Avocado. It looks the little disappointed in it but it was had to tell you that. Yeah I was like Dude looks good. He like I was missing the red wind vinaigrette. This ball saw MC in there and I was like nozzle fired up on it. I was like not really down with somatic. You know I'm a big red wine connoisseur suitor and that is a fire dressing dude. Yeah so that's what's up but I've also been speaking of adult things. I've been getting fired up on money management. Oh yeah baby talk me about mutual funds. Go Rid of debt. I'm trying to access credit cards. Listen this Guy Dave Dave Ramsey. He's like you're spending money because you're stupid. Yeah you're stupid are he's an attack mode. Yeah but you gotta Jar people out of their ignorance. Yeah he's like all right law tae breath. Why are you spend all that money on coffee? You're stupid and these all these impulses to buy like a frigging dildo on Amazon on. The DILDO. came to mind reminding to fault food. Ah You're probably looking at venture should always ask for it. You want to have it yet. It's always at the forefront of my Nago strapped into your dog for reasons unknown about that but anyways but then Dave Ramsey comes in like dildo. You're stupid you're Stephen Oh my yeah so. I've been fired breath. I've been fired up on saving money by that guarded. Got Live like you're broke until you're wealthy. You buy that car. You stoop stoop because I I was thinking about buying a car and I was listening car car. You know what's good about. That's who is like hurt me when you said that you drink law teens Aubrac. No Yeah. That's a good phrase. Congress quit spending Congress. Dumb as I'm like. Thank you dave operating business or like how do you make money before he did. I think I think from his show of telling people how to spend really. That's my favorite. Yeah I don't know he's like but but he morons but he he teaches basically like you know spend less than you earn. It's just basic principles. Get rid of all your debt. Don't I use credit cards too much. Try to use cash mostly. Yeah it's pretty common sense but when he actually like telling you that for sure dude I mean look then then you go to school for all these things teaches you base financing. It sounds self explanatory. Everyone's like I get it. Yeah don't spend that much money but I never thought of get fired up money-management I'm like I thought that was the last thing I'd get stoked on. Then you get stuck in some pretty crazy places. You can automatically remember when I sent you guys that email email those dude do you mean to send this. It looks like yeah totally your sister. What is this reply you sister low key shaded? You good big time dude. Definitely sketchy end like we kind of haven't been talking about that at all. But I've been hearing you talk about Dave Ramsey. Do Yeah and then I'm like looking out for my dog. Start investing with egg corns today. Get five dollars when you use my invite Link Center uh-huh to you and your family. How did you guys are up there with family? Did what what up and yeah I guess the way it works is it just. It's Kinda tight. It's a free advocacy corns. I guess but it just round up the nearest dollar in your account so like it when you you use a credit card even the Dave Ramsey Michael. You an idiot for you in that stupid. You just pay it off. You can use it. But you'll be disciplined but it just rounds up or you. You could use your debit card. That's cash and you can link that in rounds up your nearest Let's say you buy a lot like an eighty four four dollars dollars and sixty cents that extra forty cents will become five and then we'll go into your account super small. Where'd you pick up your financial now? I don't have any I married. Well Dude okay fire. But she's all good with the bookkeeping. No we're both pretty bad at it. Yeah Yeah I mean not pretty. We're pretty good about it but like we're not experts by any means we overspend for sure. Yeah I don't know what it is about out like Being responsible with money that kind of like a dips my energy. You know what I mean. I was fired up but but I I know there's has no excuse like a lot of people don't enjoy but you gotta do but for me like I'm just like aw dude I think once he spent some time with it and once you get around the prospect of of like eliminating debt and then You know figuring out ways to smartly invest your money so that you can have you can get that growth. That's what fires me that feeling of like. Oh I was responsible with this as opposed to like sometimes I have these impulses just like J. crew by ten white T.'s And I've done that before. But then I always leave. I know that feeling. I always leave feeling disappointed on like I don't need. It is enough clothes in my closet. I don't need more white T.'s. He's I mean did you just gotTa smartly go invest in a nice tasting a little parlor. You take the packers money line. This weekend is going at the niners types are gonNA get torched. Are they playing to know what I'm saying. If you want I think did nine are dirty on. Let's make our picks because dude I was. I've been in in a playoff pool with some friends making pigs and I am too of eight dude who hope for for this weekend and there's some professional gambler who's in our pool and after the first week and he went like four or four q believe he goes with a professional gambler and being all eric and I was like three or four this week he seven of Eight. Yeah he's putting his money. Any word of mouth is all right. Cheeser seven and a half point favorites over the titans taking the chiefs cheese. Three Road Games in a Arro- dialed. We forgot this season. Because Lamar had such a spectacular season we lost sight of the fact. That mahomes was a little banged up. That mahomes is a world beater. There's nobody like him got an arm he can move. He's inspiring he gets. Those guys rallied and fired up. Yes all right. And then we got the forty niners minus seven packers. I'm taking the points dude and I'm taking a look. You've got a Raj Dude. He's a game or he's a baller I I think he's GonNa keep them in the game but I don't think it's going to be enough but I think it's going to be close packers going. Yeah if I wasn't biggest I'd be laying down I believe out chiefs to cover a- and then I'll be taking points with the packers taking points I mean I think the forty niners will win but I think the packers I think it'll be by three or four whatever yeah but dude dude. San Francisco's fast. That offense defense they could really drill them now kittles. BC's dude. I wish he was a little bit hotter dude. I Want Judge Judy judge anything but he was a little bit hotter. Did I'd be like Jersey. These some accenture continents to he does but like I think Travis Service Kelsey he's got those is new Japanese Wiley these all about Wiley tight ends Denver. I mean the thing is I'm pulling for the niners and the chiefs because that's that's a great super that's great super bowl. It is a better super bowl. Yeah it's at pass rush against Mahomes I mean the niners offense. I think we'll beat. Read the shit out of that chiefs defense though. Yeah another missing. The chiefs are missing their best D. Russia right now I don't know how long is out for the rest defensive Lineman MD Ford the guy they Got Rid of last year because he had the offsides against the Patriots literally got rid of them because of that mistake. I think you have to. You're out on the niners. Now Right Really I think so redemption story what if he lined up outside of the Super Bowl. Yeah he's a wild wild. Sometimes I go to bed sleep. Sometimes I don't go to bed at night. tickle wild stuff like that. That'd be so wild Devlin into this meditation APP sink intuition like put you in touch with your intuition. It syncs up I feel good. Yeah but they're like it's like it uses by our sounds owns 'til they left and right hemisphere together and I'm like I'll have to do is listen to and Hell Yeah and you got to do that. And then look at the spreads and let me know would really well. I've been doing it for like two key. Alvin Avenue for two weeks now. Let's listen my dome right now. I'm GONNA say niners and cheese. He's now I did hypnotherapy on Saturday she she made me a special meditation tape and I was listening today. Hell Yeah and then you go deeper and deeper. We're breathing in vital vibrant waves for breathing out any discomfort and then we go deeper deeper deeper. And then you're like whoa. Where am I that got me do? It's crazy I went to the Dank in place. She's held Dank completes dude from get out she had me say goodbye to my negatively she like hundred up as like a full human being and EXPI- came into my life. It was protect me. I needed Tillich Alpha me but I don't need any more goodbye. I love that dude. She sent it to Costa Rica which was interesting. Yeah I'll be like I'd get mad at the I'd be like send it to like you know but she wants me to love it because it looked out for me for so long. Oh yes because I'm I'm a man now. Yeah I would have been like I. I WANNA visit Costa Rica. I know L. Dot and told her I was like you. I lived in Costa Rica. She Oh yeah intuited that or you got lucky he likes. She's disclosed fighter. I should you some questions. Some huge dude. Fire up these cues and then it's twenty eight twenty five issues leading Clemson's drive and let's go. LSU Did yeah. I love coach. Oh all right. Subdued longtime listener first-time emailer allay congrats on your big one. Hundred Rod Bros Ballin always brings my Wednesday to a grain of salt. I enjoy just Joe. STOICISM strider riders. Good Vibes Vice. I've been watching exclusively watching forty on forty marrow marital. Pov P Nog last week. One zero eight emailer spoke of his friend Grandkid. How many thinking I know him not their small from the episode but at the same time what if I was how I mean I swim in the ocean legs? Contemplate some rat downhills on my mountain bike and get Tannin season but what are some key fundamentals of staying Schmo free. Thanks and hope the Kito juice gods are in your favor this week grant. I'm indicting well I think did if you're worried you're the small you know at the small. I feel like the Shmole. Shmole never has that self awareness of their SCHMO. I think if you're coggins of you know and I don't think you need to worry about to hurt you know. Just be yourself all your path. You know keep Tanning Hanan keep going in the lakes just enjoying yourself dude and I take that negativity to Costa Rica. Baby send it do and then a little cherry on that. Maybe just always be happy for people you know. If you're happy for them most Schmaltz I think they're they're negative. They get threatened by other people's happiness and stuff like that. If you can just find a way to be positive about what other people are positive about anything that'll keep you in the SCHMO. Freezer a love that to somebody said it might have been be Franklin but I'm not even sure who it was said. Your you know your friends will come to you in times of success or excuse me your friends will come to you in times of grief but your real front will be by your side in terms of success as like how they react if they're truly happy for you truly loving I love that groups. Easy success is difficult difficult. Yeah I think a small one who attacks people's molar abilities constantly did it could be funded like you know t's your dogs a little but you know say oh nice fucking jeans or what Little Ball Buston. Yeah but it'll be perfect every time you see them you're like trying to get under their scan that Shmulik you'll come and put you in a headlock or something. I get it but you know you can talk show with your dogs. But there's there's a certain line and I think people well intuitively know that pine so it's Vibes Vibes Vitamin D. He's not shots. What's up dude? Follow up about the question stressing about the family Christmas party. I crushed in. Her family was super welcoming me. I think I made a great impression on everyone stowed from Mitchell way to go. Mitch Inch Legend Dude goodstuff side. Dan Was GonNa get you a stocking for next year to keep that up frigging Mitch by the fireplace on Chattan. Jt Big Fan of the PODCASTS. I apologize for the long message. My twenty one thousand nine hundred year has been a downfall. I lost my father on February of this year when I just lost my mother two years ago. I'm so Simon. I thought I could raise my stove and be strong about. It wasn't like that I was binge drinking a lot and did drugs. This has affect. Let me this has affected me from losing my job and my opportunity to be in a relationship with a woman that I fell in love with financially broke and deeply depressed. I'm slowly changing my attitude by drinking way. LS Not doing drugs and got a job. However my financial problems have not been stab- have have been not stable but okay enough to get through a paycheck? I want twenty twenty to be a big change. I'm twenty nine years old. I've been wanting to podcast because I'm a big median film Fan that I want to do. This is a career in that criteria. I WanNa make amends with that girl. I WANNA pursue a relationship that I lost Austat. Where can I what can I do to start my podcast and make my twenty twenty overall fire? You're sorry for the long message but I appreciate the guidance much. ps Jt your coach impersonation is the the best way Coz. Actually I forget how I do it all day and we got these guys got came into our house ours started grabbing it all food. Go in and get all your potato chip. Nobody coach potato chips. You hear me revelers. They might keep your pringles dude. I'm really sorry. you really been through the ringer and yeah. That's tough man you know. I think it's good that you wrote this message and that you're trying to improve and that you've been able to get through that that alone means you're you're pretty tough strong person even if you had some trials and tribulations along the way so yeah I'm proud of you and I think I think those those dark moments they can they can create a greater understanding and a person like it. Can you'll have more empathy for other people. Now you'll understand other people better it'll make you better at all the things you do WanNa do. Because you'll understand how hard life can be. Someone was telling me that like artists and entrepreneurs that they have like really big ups where they can inspire people and then in their downs downs. They remember what that felt like so when they go up again they can bring that empathy to what they're doing and then do the key to doing a podcast just do it. Don't even worry about like it's going to be or how people are going to receive it. Go Get some Mike's record it and put it out there and get better by doing it. Yeah did I agree. I'm so sorry to hear you're going through that but I'm I'm glad to see that you're here that you're pulling through and you're stronger dude Because of it I But yeah man in terms of doing a podcast. You just got to do this stuff you know we're in La surrounded by creatives. The biggest issue I see people thinking too much. Just get out there. Don't think about what you're going to do. I mean people just like. They plan a lot and they don't follow through on it. Don't think too much about what you're going to do. Just start doing something. Follow what you like. Follow comedy it's film or whatever like comedy for example follow. What makes you laugh? And people will be magnetically drawn to that. So and then if it's like film or whatever Just talk about your passion and I think people will be drawn to it but just get out there and do it would get those reps and know that it's a marathon not a sprint. You know when we started doing this people were like you know it takes ten years to be successful and I was like okay so this is GonNa take a while so every step of the way it was just Always have a positive attitude about it. You know it's like it's fun you're making progress in what all you WanNa do fired. Yeah a love that Dude Dude. You're getting advice from two frigates shirt up legends of the PODS did not so so do good on you for having your perspective you know. Turn things around. And I'd say yeah do do your pod you know when you start getting a group of of it you know what helps me. If I'm doing anything like creative or whatever did I do like to write out a little map of what I want to talk about. But don't be beholden by it. Just give yourself something to go so I think getting their little preparation of whatever your subject is. If it's films you know have a little bit of structure towards the tail enter beginning and then keep it up for free form and get those one minute highlights and share them on the SOC is due call. Yeah Ocean Social Media Ocean all right. I'm actively involved in the underground hardcore scene in the Washington. DC Area and I've seen a fair amount of violence. Recently a group of fucking cowards has taken a targeting me in basically just all around disrespected me over an accident that happened about six months ago as accidents do happen on on a regular basis and this type of scene. I don't like to hurt people when I go to shows but recently the leader of this group took a shot at me during a death core show and left a not on my knob if it had been an accident. I wouldn't care so much but it was obviously intentional. It's been causing a huge amount of hatred and resentment of boil up inside me and I can't seem to let it go. It's really bringing my stove to lower levels. Shy fucked this guy at the next show and assure my dominance and get back him for disrespecting me or should I just let it slide and let them target me unchecked. Sorry for the long email boys. You know what I'd do man. I would go to the leader of it. When he's not with his his whole crew and I just talked to the guy and I'd say hey dude I know you guys perceive something did months ago? You didn't really get into details about it so I'll just say that you accidentally knocked one of his buddy down in the guy broke his wrist or something and you'll say hey I'm really sorry about that. Maybe I was a little extra. I didn't mean it that way but I I see where you guys are coming from. You guys are looking out for your boys David. NJIT's he said two key words in their step up because after you say these these words to I'm you know I'm always down for a peaceful resolution. Got To come out with a nice choreographed choreographed dance. Yes to get energy out. Can the vibes going and just break out dance. I want you to serve him straight up. You know you don't have to serve him but just show them that you're you're feeling good and you're ready to dance in your your stoked on peace and harmony and rhythm and if it's death corey maybe nice head Banger. Something along those lines. Just show them that. You're in touch with death obviously but also in touch with a peaceful resolution. Do I love that. Yeah I love just dancing at your opposition opposition for sure hips serving shoulders and mouth. Move your mouth. That's why I wish I could tell world leaders you know if they're having like a summit or something I just come in. Just do like a fucking shot dance. And they'd all get fired up in world peace would be achieved they're going to be on their heels but then then afterwards they're going to be like. Hey where did you learn that. Yeah she'll be ruled the ladies are going to love it you know. They got like the nuclear football. Whatever turned three keys time out? Everyone's got a jack off before they turn those keys. Didn't they guarantee their over it. After the ED he's got to go. And just frigging drill yourself dude. You'RE GONNA take a nap like you really want to send these things. I'm overdue good call more or less. Wash the rock. So what are we saying here. Talk dance drill yourself off those. Who is a hypothetical for yours too? I think the order is dance. Drill yourself talk because I was getting the first but you'll have energy for the dance drill. You're retired back to your car and you got your big goal back in the game. Jim You say things people put on there because well I mean it's a nighttime concert do not. He's not a perfect come. See how read your faces. Don't be afraid to audible back to your apartment for the. Yeah just to keep illegal exactly. Don't do it or in anyone else's vicinity. You know to have that moment for yourself. You know what I mean. Yeah spend it with yourself and then get out there and have that talk that Jaylen that was fired for it and then just tell the guy like hey jude off did also do quick question to corporate is jacked up. We'll sir jacked off. I'm totally cool. No honestly I think you guys should and make sure you send them an email like hey toys to make sure they jack off before they come to this show. Oh yeah so we can all be mellow and it'll be one guy who still agro and that's the guy you always got to keep an eye on. Yeah Yeah there's no fix him to keep keep sending sending him links. You gotTA check and see arguments of buddies before my further. Have you jacked off. Yeah have you jacked off dog. Ugh You gotta bring that up to do before. You're talking about. Look at me dude. Have you jacked off. That happened. Not Today Dude. So what. We'll go crack one off dude and you feel breau Frankie on only live a Boehner I now have a boner to get them beer ESA. I'm not saying you're Horny Dude. I'm just saying you can redirect that energy in a more peaceful way. Okay you don't have to come into. This party. Started acting all hard if frankie come on Drill Yourself Dude Art art twenty minutes lousy cool up to the upstairs bathroom real quick did you do. What's your Wifi Password? Dude psyched I'm GonNa you starts independence. Stay sick password dude. My passwords piece. No Peace Twenty minutes later. What's up dude? What INDE- Frankie? You'll what's going on to. I'm just chilling. How do you feel good thinking about getting some? Carl's junior to pick up where you guys don't want to go pick up. y'All got a double Bacon Western. Honestly do that's exactly what else can you. Don't get me. Criss Cross fries. I'm GonNa get you Zucchinis your stay on Good Friday. Oh my God I got Jack Jack Jack. Two minutes two hours ago but I'm feeling a little bit Agar right now get Do Ship Wellstone. Well I'll just say yeah. Did I mean if you want to keep the peace to this guy just like texting some good morning do that. Oh Yeah Yeah question. Real quick question are these guys targeting him in the mosh pit or like after. Because isn't that like again just. Isn't that against the sanctity of the pit to do that. To vary on every ten is different in the platonic ideal of a pit. Yeah you wouldn't didn't want vendettas to be hashed out that way to one time. My brother and I were at a concert. My Bose playing football at the time and he was just house and dudes and he he got up under a guy and Just knocked him flat and then the guy was like but it was it was clean. It wasn't like militias or anything and the guy went back to his buddies and and they were all skinheads and they thought my brother and I were Jewish and they just started. Throwing Hail Hitler's Edison stuff like that. So I'm like screaming over the music of like no well. They just weren't listening so we had to go somewhere else. She stated the concert but just got out of that pit for a while. Yeah it was really scary. That having a lot of people thinking I was Jewish skinheads and Orange County going to be when I was like dude. I'm Catholic. I'm like I'm Catholic Columbia. I you're listening to the band tool. Yeah I keep hearing about people keep talking about tool. I have never listened to actually Aaron. Have you listened to tool cool. Yes I do I like. I'M NOT I'M A. I don't love him. What's his name James Maynard James Keenan Major James? I've been to his winery in Arizona. Yeah Brilliant Guy Yeah. He's he's interesting he's A. I've seen them live once and he was in a full body like not not quite like green man from as always Sunny Johny but like that full body thing with like the galaxy on it and he was standing back by the drummer the whole time like. He's a really interesting dude. It like kind of shy for the lead singer of a metal band. Dude if you've got a job interview and you're deciding what to wear you fucking where the galaxy do you put that galaxy soon on you go in there. You're going to find something in common talk about. Did you listen to their tools. Release a new album or renew single or so. They put out a new album and they went on tour again for the first time in a long time very schools doing like a parallel comedy or next to like all. They're like the day before their shows. WHOA with like Nikki Steph and another comedian? Oh that's right that's right. Yeah Bill to Bill Hicks was a big Fan of theirs and something at their concerts. And I guess Maynard James Keane Yeah doesn't now to as a Bill Hicks would go up on stage and go. Hey I tried my contact and you grab it for me and they said like all thousand people in the audience would bend over to grab it just a little. He had an album Hicks had an album called Arizona Bay and I don't know which came first. That's a lyric in one of their songs I was really yeah. He wished California sink into the ocean. And then we'd all live on the bay. I'm not a big Bill Hicks Fan. I respect them but love do. Do you love when he screamed into the my Tehrik about so. Yeah sure. He's a powerful thinker. The I guess I like a little more levity. Listen to him briefly didn't Dennis leary take a lot of his material. Cook it so hard really just like you watch it side by side. You're like Oh my God. It's crazy Bill Hicks at a funny joke about. He's he's like no no no. Dennis didn't steal mom material. I took it from him and I just added punch lines and manage to do it before him to learn. But it's it's insane the bitsy too because they're so specific like there's one about how like this. Marathon runner died super young than this other guys. Smoke cigarettes whole life is. I still like to make the comparison to do the bit. You can only come from one person. It's not like the Schumer allegations like that's like common thinking it's like it's like super specific. Yeah I like Dennis leary get actor Joe Dirt Dennis Miller. Aw that's Dennis Miller Dude Dennis leary. Jack Denison Taylor's essence so hard you don't even know what I'm saying Fuck Clear Stoger's love here in the pod. You guys is your what I call huddle bones hooligans that are always bopping it. Energy level ten is to. I'm writing in because for Christmas. I received a lawnmower to point out from my dad for Christmas. I was so sales else but the problem is that my grandma was there. And she's just so innocent and ask what is that. I've frozen had no idea how to approach the question. I should have told her. It's just a body trimmer. I think it went over well but I guess my question is more for others. That may find themselves in the same situation. How would you answer that question to someone like a little kid? Thanks Dude I straight up. Say I should have just tell my grandmother truth now. They want to hear the truth to treat old people like they're extra sensitive and they are in some ways but they've seen more stuff than all of us. They know what people are capable and once you know. They've heard dirty jokes before we did a stand up thing at my grandma's old folks home I pass and we brought the fire. We didn't hold back. They ended up shutting the showdown. Yeah Dude Yeah did tellers for your pews man I mean and what does she want. What do you think that you're shaving your chest all day? Let her know that you're trimming. You're you know you're looking after your hog. You're making sure you're donald piece. This is looking fresher than a frigging snowman on a hot day. I do let her know after us that you could play Shuffleboard friggin. It's so nice and camped dude. Yeah you got straight up turf on. They're ready for the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl of Jisr Uh and then and then go drill yourself. Do she knows what it's for. She knows your grandma does also do. And maybe if you tell her the truth she'll tell you something gnarly that's like super super-safe about the sixties or something you're not you're not surprising you're G Madhu Chino's what's up dude or about you know the Korean War he can get some Intel show. Should you one more hell. Yeah Dude. Let's go all right. Mike picks up the contact from our five. I always try to get heavy contact. What up legends? I'm coming to you browse guidance. After almost two and a half years of dating I've come to the painful conclusion that ended up breaking up with my girlfriend. She's an absolute sweetheart. My friends and family think she's super great but I know deep down that she isn't for me. There's nothing that she's done wrong but she doesn't bring me joy that I often have with my friends and I'm looking for something more a strong extrovert in love to have a deep emotional conversation with people while she's a strong introverts and likes to be more guarded and rarely prompts. This conversation be on the surface. I realized that it needed to end this relationship and be single for awhile. But I've been holding in these feelings because she's been going through a tough time. She hates her current job in his stressed stout. After submitting her law school application for acceptances to make things where she followed me to Chicago. After college where I have many friends and she has very few as a result of this and we traveling during the week for work. We have become fairly codependent on each other on weekends. I know I'll get out of the situation but just fine but I'm worried. Is it really going to devastate. Or what do I do in this situation. Do I keep deep what I have going until she is in a better place or do I n things knowing. It would be very stressful. I thanks guys ricky. Did you guys watch. Is Hopping fishing a hard day. Both feet do dude. I mean look. Here's a perspective you've got to think of. If you're in a relationship you want to be in a relationship with someone who gets you stoved in values you fully so you can't maintain this relationship because you feel bad about hurting someone's feelings because you're not doing her the biggest service you know what I mean you need to you. You need to also think they're like don't think I'm hurting this person. You need to think like I'm doing them a disservice by not wanting to be in this relationship and that's totally fine. Those are normal oh feelings. Didn't that's healthy you you you feel in your heart of hearts so I mean I think there's no right time to enter relationship. There's worse times you know like I don't know some can happen but I mean think the sooner the better man you're thinking it just do it the more time you let go by the more difficult it's going to be. We cannot make a million excuses to talk. Talk ourselves out of anything but like you said in the beginning of that email you you know that. She's not the one for you and I think is tough of a conversation as it is you just gotTa oh you gotTa face the music and do it and then you know we may not see usually never as bad as you think it is you know you are domes. Create things that are are are worse than reality a lot of times and it's not going to be easy but I think you got it sooner rather than later I mean. Don't do it on her birthday but you know what do you guys I think dude. Yeah agree Its tough them. I sympathize with you. I mean it's a tough situation to be in to pull the trigger on that and and I think with strider saying is the Correct correct route because I think ultimately what he's saying you're more acting in self interest in this situation by not wanting to hurt her but you got to think about this situation as a whole just get it over with I think Yemen. It's really tough. It's tough when the other person has really done anything wrong but you just want something else but you have to be honest with yourself and then be honest with her. And I don't think there's anything thing harder to do than do what you're GonNa do but if you can do it it'll be a big step for you and your development as a person because I think I think some people goes shittier. Routes you know what I mean like. They start acting like an asshole so that the other person breaks up with them or they did. She like they They just come up with ways ways to to blow it up so that they don't just have to have an honest conversation because it is scary but I can already tell from the way you wrote this that you you're very clear thinker and so you just got a you know and it's good that you've come to a solid conclusion and now you just got put into action and good luck to you. Meant and be nice to see I know you will be really nice and And try and make it as What would it be like cas just good hard processes? It can be Yeah all right. Good luck to you brother right. Do you want to do an ad. And then we'll get into the beefs and stuff Guys interrupting this podcast. Remind you once again that we are brought to you by manscaping landscape. 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Probably some blend. Dude I mean look you know. I've got faults which we all do. Don't make yourself pedestrians or anything about lines. But I just from the intonation you know blends are stuff that I'm trying to make everybody happy with being new. I do that a lot. You know. Maybe I'm being a bit of a cab being bold saying that you know I love it. Chad ready What is your beef of the week? Oh this one that have to be for the week. Right now is with My beef of the week is with laundry never stops you know you do laundry you feel good about yourself and then next thing you know you look in that been more laundry and and You know sometimes you have these X.. Essential moments where you're like man dishes and laundry will never stop piling up. And that's just something I'm going to have to live with with you know you think you can clean it up once it's GonNa come back and that's something that I think is tougher to to face than our own mortality. Honestly you know because it's it's like you're living this life and you know that it's going to end on top of that and and I stay stoke the route. I'm GonNa stay stoke throughout and I'm going to be stoked after I kicked the bucket but you also have to deal with the fact that you're GonNa have to do laundry and dishes the entire time frigging wack did yeah sears. Tried to help. And they're doing a decent job. The job isn't over. You know I still got a fold. I still gotTA throw in those pods and I still gotTa Wash. And they still gotta look. After that filter make sure know those scraggly firs fabrics get in and start a fire in my friggin dryer. So maybe we with laundry you know just like not stoked on your infinity loop and I think it's pretty whack so hopefully Sunday laundry can get layered. That's my beef nice air and you got a beef. My my beef. Is the scandal going on in baseball. Right now oh dude yeah. We didn't talk about it but we've been talking off off pod. It's about signs stealing and using technology to do it and that's clearly wrong My beef is so it was the twenty seven world series the Astros and then they tony. Eighteen red sox are also kind of embroiled in the same scandal. They share share. A similar coach. Might be why that happened. my beef is with the people who lost those world series thinking that they now deserve the world series title because the dodgers lost to them both actually which is kind of hilarious Bertel. But I've also seen people say the two thousand seventeen the Yankees deserve the world series title. which is like now you don't that doesn't track? The dodgers made it there at least and besides the fact part of this scandal is that it wasn't it didn't take place during the playoffs. There was a MLB employees making sure it couldn't happen. They weren't aware of it but they were there so it can happen So my beef is with people thinking that just because one team cheated during the regular season that all all of a sudden they deserve a trophy at the end of it. Yeah I never liked like taking away national championships from someone. Because they were doing illegitimate things like my whole thing is like I think if you didn't catch him there's like a statue of limitations during that season or immediately after. Yeah we're like three years later and there's no way to lake like adjudicated it's like it's over. You fucked up. You missed it the only got it. The only time I'm in favor of that happening is Penn State. I think Penn state it should have to vacate. Probably everyone they've ever had and they shouldn't. As far as I'm concerned they shouldn't have football program. Yeah after the the What's his name now? And send us in Saint going here Sqi. Because that's just horrendous. Yeah I'm the human and evil. They put a second priority behind winning. Football Games yeah. It's pretty ugly so yeah I think with them. It's you can definitely make that argument Albert Breaks Degrade tweet right after the whole thing. They're not gonNA tear down the Joe Paterno statue but they're going to have it look the other way that's Strategy what's your beef of the week before the week is with my dog. Walter Dude you dude. He's a receptionist at the dentist. That I go dude and walters just dial up my phone dude eight thirty. AM in part of. This is on me because I haven't responded to Walter but he calls me so early waking me update like right when the office opens and I'm trying to maximize my z's dude and pushing it to the limits before I gotta get to work and I'm getting I think it's my alarm all the time and it's my dentist waking me up like every day of the week and this was going on for like a week straight but did find the reschedule. And I don't like like that but it's very necessary like when the dentist you know you gotta go twice a year like when you leave appointment. They like put you on the books for the next six months. Is there anyone out. There are keeping that appointment six months later. Dude Yeah is there any human maritime come that's dialed in like you know you're constantly rescheduling what's going going on with that. But the thing is no one likes the dentist and they're never going to go so they know they gotta get you on the Hook Yeah so just you know. I'll be with Walter for love. He's a good dude he's doing. His job is not Walter it gets. It's just the system we live in dude. You know whatever do yeah. I highly recommend do not disturb function on on an earphone. Here's the thing I mean. I don't go full on just because I put it on vibrate and so I've been waking up with vibrating next to my on my nightstand. It won't even vibrate if you have an agenda disturb but will my alarm go off. Yeah Yeah you're alarm anyone in your favorites if they call twice in the neck in like two minutes. It'll go through. Are you kidding me. Emergency Yeah you're for religious. I'm frail with this. This is a life changing moment. I am one hundred percent switching over to the do not disturb punk. Is it the little like a moon. yeah talk yes dude Aaron frigging thank you Erin. I'm over the moon with this new information that you've just given me do you're welcome my dog fire and we gotta get you on camera. The stoker's been calling for. It will not do it. You won't do it. It allows do to choice. Did you know whatever I love them. If I come out there to fix something thing I'll be wearing a mask guy fawkes or solid or Dahlie dude trial. Max Watch Eyes Wide Shut last night. So that's titillate don't do what does she say in that. Offer myself with a heavy spoon. They move so slow all the music So how about the scene shadow Nicole. Kidman is just which is a little laughing when she talks about her Fantasy and it just read Tom. Cruise to bid genuinely married couple. When they're making that movie listening to podcasts? On it today talking about like some critics were like they're like he was out of his league but then another critic argued that like like no like the performance. It's was like he chose Tom Cruise because we what do we know Tom Cruise for his enthusiasm and he's slowly e see him try to have that enthusiasm images gets drained out. Yeah throughout the movie and it's like it's like we as the audience we see that. Just get sucked out of him so I thought that was pretty Dang Dude. I've always yes I think porn is not great for some people. It's great but for me I just get too into it. I can't watch it but arthouse sex that might even more damaging when because it adds all these weird elements. It's always like an affair. Someone's always hurting somebody else. Yeah start thinking. That's what people think is erotic and it just it. It twisted some synapses in my brain. Your twelve watching indecent proposal on. HBO Lose My lady to Robert. Redford if the GO-TO hey guess what we're looking around. Arena the dude from the natural that my dad with my dad and now he's doing this on a boat what's going on to you know. See now he's got me me as a kid Austin powers. A lot of Jonah goes. Oh yeah I was like mom. Can we rewind that for my little boehner was just like now. She's like I'm like I need drill myself for sure. Nice Little Boehner was speaking to your whole body too. Yeah it speaks to the nice environment. Your Mama Foster auster they were so candid about your intentions. Yeah I liked that drilling yourself house like a lot of agena shirt. And she's like what I'm like the name she To a nice pond. It was nice. Do this because that screens screens a little bit of delay. I literally got to see us. It was like when jets fly by dude like I saw and then heard it. That's sick experience. I've been watching that youtube dude jets fly by of course. Jt what's your beef my beef the week is Katy Perry versus the nuns. This was brought to our attention by our friends. David and Marie basically these nuns have been living in a chateau in Los Felices Los Angeles for like forty years and then Katy Perry got the hots for and wanted to buy the property and she made made a deal with the archdiocese the bosses of the nuns to get it for like fourteen million dollars but the nuns had seen some a Katy Perry videos specifically or halftime performance at the Super Super Bowl. They did not like it and they decided they would not sell to Katy Perry. So they've been holding onto that house and refusing the orders of their bosses because they also say the diocese mistreated them MHM. So they don't have to listen to them and and then they ended up doing a swindle and selling it to another lady for fifteen million dollars and she promised to keep it open to the public. So Katy Perry and the archdiocese archdiocese are suing these nuns in court. This has been going on for years. And there's a lot of crazy stuff that went down like one of the nuns told a reporter outside of the courthouse. Please Katie please stop. It's not doing anyone any good except hurting a lot of people hours later that none collapsed and died during the court proceeding during the court proceeding. oh my gosh and one of the nuns Callahan. Said Look Peres is blood on her hands. I really don't like Katy Perry. I'm sure she doesn't like me. I love these. Josh stood. Yeah hopefully it resolves itself well and it everybody ends ends up with shelter but yeah just a crazy story that came through my my world Chad. Who is your baby with a week? Now baby the week is rob. Lowe's Tan Yeah. Yeah undefeated for sure. I mean we I saw him in person for the first. It's time and he's not disappointed. His Tan was fresh. Mike what have you been doing. Rob You know jogging cycling kayaking acking shredding you know his Tan was just so star power to and I just want to commend it in. Give it preys on the public form. Because because I think it's worthy of that so I'm like you're not in the west wing anymore dude. You're at the beach a love. The bronze awesome. Yeah so that's this was up to bed. Sure sure You brought it up earlier. I'M GONNA say my babe of the week is Bill Hicks recently. You you know I. I watched a lot of his stuff a lot of his hours documentary about them. It's really great. Yeah we watched that just recently. Are- watched his. It's a one night stand it's on. Hbo Go Hbo One Night Stand and it. It may just be perfect. Yeah Yeah say twenty minutes yeah eight. Maybe and it's for him because he can be kind of like too much surface philosopher comic back just kind of go in and say and stuff. It's not necessarily funny but this thing tight ends really funny ends on a joke and it's it's mostly jokes for that whole time like he does obviously sprinkle in some philosophy and I think a lot of stuff still is relevant today particularly in terms of like consumerism. And I mean the fact that World War three could happen any second. It's all relevant. It's there in nineteen ninety-two like it's crazy and you know underneath like olive like the kind of angry tone is like a very positive message. Yeah Yeah Oh one hundred percent. Yeah we were all won. We're all on a ride right. Yeah it's just a ride. It's just a ride exactly. That's a great bay. Yeah yeah he's not often noted as babe so I like that too gone too soon. He doesn't take on. Stand up where he's like. He's like my best. You his ten rules of Stan for something like that. Forget that I saw a while back guide and one of them that I really love. Is your materials for you to fall back on like. He's he's like you know be connecting with the audience. Let your material fall back on to just be like totally in. The moment was pretty tight. He died at thirty two. It says the brain cancer pancreatic pancreatic pancreatic. Yeah Man Thirty two. That's what he started when he was like sixteen. Yup that's crazy. Yeah he's always a prodigy and left behind a a really good body of work. I mean in terms of just like the volume of it to strider. Who's your baby the week I'll do my beliefs got me my gfd? Because I'll post up watching ball yesterday. Our apartment do is Dank tank and I stepped out like Alba modules issues. Get some work done. Our Laptop did and I came back and surprised her with the smoothie Dank yellow diamond smoothly dudes tile from creation dude. I love that my dog picked up on that. That's our favorite one. It's the taste because he was talking about. She's like because she knows I'd like to go there and crush them smoother. This adds up. Did your boy Ramsey Dave Ramsey. He'd be like you idiot. Dude smoothie breath more on your stupid you spend in that Congress Congress. Oh yes. They're so dank and they're so stoke raising and I knew my Jeff was doing work and I was like. I'm getting a nice little treat so I come back with US movies and guess. What did she had made TACO bowls for both of us when I got back here so we each surprised each other with something tight and I was like dude? This is the best. That's the opposite of the Henry story with like the hair. And then getting her the the broach for the hair. You know when the two the couple they can't afford the gifts for each other's so the wife cuts her hair to get the guy what he likes is the famous short story thing to get her something for hair. Yes Ah yeah that's like the opposite. Do exactly do it was it was still fired. Me Up to still fire guys got a beautiful thing but thank you. D- it's beautiful. Thank you do different for more audio auditory due to my baby the week is inspired by Ahrends I totally agree with you on the half hours I think oftentimes the half hours are better than ours. I think Patricia Neal has a great one on. Hbo David Tells On. HBO is a very good half hour. You're but my Mitch Hedberg. Obviously his comedy central half hours like the most legendary but my favorite half hour is Chelsea Peretti's when she did hers. She has a good hour on netflix conflicts. But her half hour is the funniest thing I've ever heard and she one of my favorite comedians. Every other she doesn't really do it as much now. But like I remember when I first moved Tell A and I saw Dr Live remember. We saw a meltdown and there was this like super stoned out guy in the front row of the audience. And you had to talk about who begged to be talking about. It was a little mean but she just she goes. Are you here on purpose. She's really funny live. I think if you're going to see comedy live you WanNa see an hour to to see where people right down and talk to the crowd and are are a little more loose but yeah if you're watching on. TV An hour is tough on TV. It's brutal so so I think yeah. Half Hour on various media can hold my bur Chapelle rock like those guys they can do it but almost everybody else I'm like. What am I doing here here? Yeah less is more tank. That's why we're GONNA put it on ten minutes specials. Who is your legend mileage out of the a week? Is this tortoise. That pretty much boned his species out of extinction on Reddit Guy Goes Yo. Some tortoise fucked walked his species out of extinction in the article. This tortoise named This guy this torch from the Galapagos hundred two years old and he's still cranking them out Lov now that's he's probably on Mediterranean Diet. He's got another fifty to go. Oh He's like yeah. It's probably getting regular exercise. He's got. He's eating oysters. Can that blood flow going Diego. The Tortoise is over one hundred years old and has fathered over eight eight hundred tortoise babies he weighs almost thirteen stone measures in a a meter long and he is one big POPPA standing at one point five meters tall. We did genetic study. We discovered that he was the father of nearly forty percent of the offspring released into the wild on Espinola. Wouldn't say this species is imperfect health because historical records show. There's probably to be more than five thousand tortoises on the island but to population. That's in pretty good shape and growing which is most important so diego ago. What out dude? Thanks for stepping up to the plate and shown the world you're manscaping hog your toward escaped hog and keeping your species going. It's legends like you that we need in this world your hero and I love you dude. So hopefully I'll go the Galapagos one day and because he's he's in retirement now he's just chilling. Yeah that's always I did you know you can tell a male for turtle from a female turtle how Dong Song the male turtles will have a curvature that goes up in on their on their under Shell So that they can get on top show. Wow fired up on that knowledge. I love that's cool. That's amazing strider. Who's your oh no? Oh yeah airs my legend. The week is combat's you guys has heard about this. The the Australian water wildfires that are terrible and it says God hurting that country in wildlife population so badly Donate where you can if you can Apparently wombats besides being some of the Qaeda's animals on the planet they burrow under the ground so that keeps them safe from fire but apparently they've been seen hurting other animals into their burrows to keep them. AM SAFE as well. I love that. That's amazing yeah I do so cool yet. There's a full on legends. Yeah that's awesome. Thank you for that. Yeah thank you tight strider. What's your legendary? Do My legend. The week's gotTA BE GOTTA remain nameless in my apartment next door to do that lives there. WHO's super loud dude? Allowed human being nude. I think he's treated himself to vacation and I'm happy about it. Did this guy is stays on vacation forever. Dude he's a type of dude like my jeff and get into bed like late like midnight dude literally like it's like he knows dude bom immediately put on music did mmediately two seconds later just frigging you know. He's not bad. Music Counting Crows sometimes some type. No I mean I'm like do come on and I'm trying to go to bed so just fired up that this guy has been on a nice quiet streak dude so keep it going you legend dude and that's sometimes do sometimes you're being a leading. Don't even know what your analogies are and I just want to give a shoutout to two that the idea that you might just be when you're making switches which is dude the ripple effect goes farther than we may know is water flight in that. Fired me do my legend of the week. It's kind kind of random it's John dickerson. The political commentator. I like them on Slate Political Gabfest and I'm not even crazy about the other two folks but I just dig his vibe like no matter is politics. He seems practical and reasonable reasonable and a lot of times I think people get caught up in like wishful thinking but he always seems to be like grounded in reality and no matter what he doesn't want either side bully them mm into what they think is like mandatory thinking like he'll get the they'll try and pin them and be like we. How can you say that that means that you think this way no no slow down? That isn't what I mean. I mean this because of this reason and I just appreciate how he doesn't get fired up he just kind of sits in the pocket. He's like no. I know who I am. I know what I think and I'm GonNa say it now. Difficult due to difficult skill to have so hard so hard. We're all scared. Yeah Yeah Anki cultivated that or he's born with it Pombo nation. I know he grew up in a family with some heavy hitter. Folks I think like I think his mom was like one of the most famous newscasters. There's something Oh yeah so. I think it was a it was A. I might be talking about Anderson Cooper. Actually he's from the vanderbilts. Yeah he's he's got he's got some pressure from the mom but no I think Dickerson it's the same or it might be his dad but yeah he's definitely a generational thing. He's a beast Chad. Chad what is your quote of the week. Microwave comes from gladiator. Oh dude comes from Proxima. WHO's like US Russell? Crowe I slave owners will become yeah. Yeah he's glad ear. Such gladiator a Roman province. Yeah ex gladiator Exco Proxima you should see the Colosseum Spaniard. Fifty thousand Romans watching every movement of your sword willing to make you that willing willing you to make that killer. Blow the silence before you strike in the noise afterwards. Rises rise up like a storm is zip your the thunder God himself. Yes Banja shadows and dust. Oh Oh those is death of Jews in danger of becoming a good man Proxima Oh fanning himself to. Yeah you know what I'm doing part of doing this. That's Proxima right. Exactly right. That's what he doesn't has the sword into another man and love you for that and you may begin to love them for you. Gladiator glad you realize I never touch my shoulder ones dude. I'm fired up. Gladiator quotes Dude Fair. Remove all time favorite Ridley Scott to man. I mean that film Louise Blade Runner Alien Alien like Oh do this beast greatest ever. Yeah it's crazy. And then he was like random little ones that are like Kinda interesting I into like a matchstick men he he did Black Hawk down to did I watch matchstick men. That's Nicholas cage or something. OCD OCD Kingdom of Heaven. American Immigration Way Danker. My basketball coach was in own American. Gladiator he played. He Played A. It was a famous basketball player. That boned allow Jake's reloaded played wilt chamberlain. Well that's pretty amazing. Yeah you're so like he he. Every time it'd be like Kelly was sub. Kelly new American gladiator movie. They got good news and bad news. To Ridley. Scott's a new movie coming out written by Matt Damon Ben Affleck Nicole Hall of Center all Beasts But strider it starring Adam driver. Oh my gosh this guy dude he just like dude you guys getting I mean look. He's a good actor. But do you get the best roles always do what's going on with this Guy Dude. It's unreal dude. I know I'm being hater. I know him being a hit or he does a good job. He's earning it dude in this industry the entertainment. You got to capitalize strike while the hot you know but I'm feeling a little over two. He served in the army. I know do look he. It's on me Don me. I'm the problem a little bit on the problem here but do enough dude. It's not fared. Who else can we cat? What is driver doing that? Other dudes can't do watching marriage story. He just Kinda weird look into. Yeah but there's other weird looking dude like Adrian. Brodie is the same thing as like a not cool thing. It's like off putting I think. Yeah I mean I just. I'm just sick of the roles dude. I'm sick he gets to do with Star Wars and our house movies. It's not fair right but you want to be bothered. Fosbury was doing both love. Fos Banner guys a beast guy's a legend would love to see that good for him to. I don't know why this driver it might be his dirt facing into town. Yeah Yeah Yeah the voice war. What's your what's your behavior? It's been back together for writing again. Yeah I think they're both going to be in it to. Is it a war movie or is it like an epic movie. It's got a very CD plot. It's about a I guess it's based off a real life story where one guy sexually assaults and other guys Wife and then they have a dual damn strider. What's your quarterly already? My core of the week been looking up on my phone. Sorry but I didn't have memorize. It's very easy but from a Dank movie that I've seen twice in theaters now. Nine thousand nine hundred seventeen one with my dog. Chad solid a second time with my dog. Jt What a love. This movie dude fired up on this movie dude and the quote comes from. Maybe I won't say it in case no one's seen it but the quote comes into just says there's only one way this war ads last man standing. Yeah that was World War one to write the meat grinder. Yep Good Dan Carlin did that gray pot about it. Oh my God as ing and it's just a meat grinder like they were just sending guys out each other and knowing that there was not going to be real progress out of it but you just had to decimate the other side's Forces Bat True Battle of Attrition Dude I don't love but it's crazy that they had gas like mustard gas and other gases but in World War Two they were just like or not using that shit anymore in it may be made unless with strategy with like Blitzkrieg and all that. But like they're like we're not even fucking with getting towards the right. Yeah they just don't want to be absurd with gas ask US fucking nukes but yes no no no no. It's just gnarly dude. That war the rules of engagement that change quickly when allergy the evolves password. They thought it could go. And it's scary the scary thing about Duda Chad. Gifted Dank book All the light we cannot see the World War. Two book is really good. And they're like one of the themes in towards the end is generations will forget like how horrible that war was and that's when it will happen again. That's where we're at right now. Exactly where to distance like. There's a line where it's like. Oh the talk about like the Great War and they're like no no the horror of that and it only took thirty years. It's crazy SAM. Mendes part of the reason why I made the movie. It was to like. Keep those memories alive. Yeah Yeah Dude. Yeah it's important. I I had a friend. WHO's one of the smartest guys I know they went to an Ivy League? School has like works really a difficult profession and he was like dude. I just love chaos like I love that. We're like an chaotic era right now like I think it's just who I am. I'm like no you think that because you actually had to live through chaos exactly actually had to like worry about protecting yourself everyday especially protecting the people you love. I think you would beg for a little bit of the normal that we have and I know times are tough and people are struggling. But I think you know yeah. Pyschological modesty change. Should be slow and incremental us. I'll be very careful about what we do. And it's brutal dictates. It ruins lives obviously creates generation like the main character from that book like her whole life is defined. It was like if you were coming. If you were around in the forties of that time like everything in your life just always went and talked to that cause and saints like crazy. We're lucky we're lucky right now. We've had solid years. Yeah keep them rolling Stoke Alive States to stay stowed. My quote of the week is from the song take it easy by the Eagles on new. I think one of the great songs of all time I guess. Initially it was it also by Jackson Browne so he wrote the first part of it. And then Glenn Fry from the Eagles took over the second stanza because Jackson couldn't figure it out and do this line is all time killer and they talk about it in the Eagles Documentary Jackson. Browne's rhapsodised about how it conjures up. All the things about America like hope optimism religion a small town and love. And it's well I'm standing on a corner in winslow Arizona. Such a fine nine sight to see such a sight to see. It's a girl my Lord in a flatbed Ford slowing down and take a look at me. I love that fire lines did a girl my Lord in a flatbed Ford slowing down and take a look at me. There's a lot in that a lot Chad. What's your Frisbee? Forget after my first of the week. Forget Nafta is to the Dinger. Ooh Ooh you gotta phrase that we forget after it come back to me. I am still working on it for sure. LOGIN strategy strider. Tonight we're dancing with did plus and that you don't know a dip butted to double. It did to double in your dancing with them. Do Nice little hazy. 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Democrat Fixes To America's Problems Are Making It Worse | Newt Gingrich Interview

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Democrat Fixes To America's Problems Are Making It Worse | Newt Gingrich Interview

"I'm Dave Rubin and this is the Rubin report reminder everybody to subscribe to our Youtube Channel and click that pesky notification bell and joining me today is the former speaker of the House the author of over forty books and the chairman of Gingrich three sixty. Consulting Newt Gingrich welcome to the Rubin report. It's good to be with you. Citing. I'm glad to have you. You are in Rome at the moment. What's what's going on in Rome these days well, as you know, my wife Callisto is the ambassador to the Vatican. So that that's what we're here Rome actually is a huge comeback they. Got Into, big? Trouble back. In. February because there are about one hundred thousand Chinese workers in northern Italy. And they were. Allowing the flights to continue. So. They were literary wagon for Wuhan. Bringing the disease right here. And it got so out of control that they're hospital system was breaking down. And there was some triage people and the you're over eighty. They basically said you're not getting who can take care of. he in fact, close to help. Samaritan's purse. Franklin Graham's operation they flew in an entire hospital. Sixty. Eight beds sixty doctors nurses into the worst part of northern Italy. So the Italian government closed everything. we had most restores of pharmacies gas stations. That's it. If you were in the street. you had to have a good excuse in writing. or You could be fined three, thousand, two, hundred dollars. So, for ten weeks, cluster ran the embassy from our house Birdie you virtually. Amazing lot of Zoom gotomeeting and what have you and For Ten weeks basically starved the virus and gradually under control. It's now sufficiently under control that they've reopened the restaurants, the museums public parks. stores and You see people walking around no problems Ridley is. The fourteen percent of economy one, hundred, seven dollars is tourism. And they don't have any tourism yet. So places like the Coliseum or last year got twenty, three, thousand people a day. You know maybe have five, hundred, thousand a day and took that's a real economic crisis for them. But but in terms of the pandemic, they are dramatically dramatically better shape. Yeah. So we're holding interview for a couple of days. So I don't want to ask you anything about specifically what's happening today, but but generally speaking the way you see. The lockdown now in America and I'm here in Los Angeles, and literally just yesterday. US, put us in another lockdown and that these things seemed to keep continually happening. We're watching some spikes. Just seems that no one knows who to trust at the moment. What's your take about how the states have done it where where trump fits into this and is there something that you would have been doing differently as speaker of the House to to push your guys to push certain things? differently. I think it's been remarkable. To have this level of panic. governor newsom of, for example, closed the zoos again now if you're going to lock up every poor child in Los Angeles or San Diego or San Francisco. So that her during a little apartment they have no space and then you're gonNA close all the public parks. what is little kids supposed to do, and it strikes me the what you end up with as A. Public Health dictatorship, which is very singular and how it measures things I had a university presidents say to me the other day that he will lose more young people to suicide and drunk driving and he will lose to cove. And He said they're reopening. He cannot understand why people have any doubt at all about reopening. And so I would start from there. The people you need to worry about affable the deaths are people who are over seventy years of age and in particular he dug a more you go up at eight years of more dangerous at ninety. It's even more dangerous. So you know that you want to really work to protect people who are over seventy. But. You don't need to really work to protect people were thirteen. and the idea that were we we've gone country that use know how to open one house a schoolrooms and have seven classes in one room and people actually learn how to read to an extraordinarily expensive union dominated bureaucracy that doesn't want to teach. And you're GONNA have this I'm also Angeles they've got it in New York. Fairfax County Virginia One of the biggest and richest school districts in the country. Why would we pay people to not teach? why wouldn't you all these big fancy buildings nobody can go to and I? Think it really raises very profound questions about the whole system. Yeah well, that actually perfect segue because I was gonna say someone that's a true love her. History is written about it and you talk about American history all the time. Are you SORTA shocked the way the average American person just sort of takes orders and doesn't necessarily ask why are these things happening at one time? It was flat in the curve. We don't hear the phrase, flatten the curve anymore. We haven't heard it excuse me for about six weeks. Now it seems to be something else or they just give us in order and they don't really tell you why. Well I mean it has been I think. The evolution from a news media to a propaganda media. So that. You have these waves of coverage I, compared it to a watching the flagellate anti in the Middle Ages this was a group go from city to city beating themselves So all these people out here. Who are they panic Not Truth is if you look at the death rate, who's no reason to panic? This is not the Boban quake. It's just not a Bola most people who get personal off an amazing percentage who get the The the Chinese virus, which is what is most of. Don't even know they haven't When you sold somebody tested positive. Who was quote? A symptomatic? That means whatever symptoms they had were so mild. That and it didn't affect them. So you have to stop and say wait a second. Why are we panicking? Overpaid the numbers go up with the numbers go up of people under thirty five who aren't totally healthy. and I. Think. The I have been truly appalled by younger daughter Jessie Bushman. As certified financial analyst in used to run a very large budget. Billion dollar must budget. And she said to me tonight and just sheer disgust. She said I have never seen statistics put together so bad. that. It is impossible to know what's actually happening. And she is just literally fed up this. Whether it's because the government statistics are so incompetent or whether it's because the news media is deliberately going going from worst case to worse case to worst-case, they don't tell you that. Georgia has about ten percent of the tally rate of new. York. They praised Cuomo who is the worst governor in the country. But has been praised so much by the news media that he now has a very high popularity rating in New York. Well, he killed people in at least sixty thousand senior citizens died because of governor Cuomo and decisions even. But that somehow gets brushed over because you know he's liberal and therefore it's OK. Now that I'm officially off the great I can finally take moment to use legacybox the super simple in service to have all my video tapes, camcorder tapes, film reels, and pictures digitally preserved on a thumb drive dvd or the cloud are your family's memories trapped on old camcorder tapes, film reels and photos collecting dust in your closet or attic have them digitally preserved? So they stand the test of time and can be passed down for generations to come legacy box can easily and affordably digitally preserved my family's past the process from start to finish his so easy. You pack in send their team digitize everything. 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The networks were asking crowds not to make sounds during the debates which in many ways, sort of deflated your candidacy because you were using their their energy. That sort of relevant to what you just said there about Cuomo, because Democrats seem to be able to get away with virtually anything and then blaming it on the other guy because they know the media runs cover for them. You guys don't get that luxury. I mean you could tell the. Romney was the media choice because they rink towards the end they just rigged the debates. It was amazing when I got up on stage and they said nobody gets to applaud nobody has to do this nobody has to do that. and I looked at it and and It was truly anti popular and it was the elitist as you could possibly be and I frankly watched when you say when you say when you say they do you mean that's coming from the networks or or coming from the RNC Nano coming from the network The network, the network should decided the Romney was the low risk moderate candidate that that they could survive with a and that I really was there they're more l'ennemi, which is true i. mean if if if you're GonNa Destroy New York Times and turn it into a propaganda machine than as somebody who grew up when there really was a news media. I am deeply opposed and I don't mind going head to head with all these people I really admire trump in that sense because I thought fifteen sixteen he did the best job I've ever seen me better than Reagan. Better. Than me taking on the media and winning I mean it's just straight knock down drag out fight and and then he's had to do that because they are a propaganda some not a news media they are about ninety three percent against trump. They lie about him when he gave us a terrific speech at Mount Rushmore, which was a great redefinition of American exceptionalism why we matter. When they couldn't find anything in the speech they just lied about Ms of most amazing thing. Michael Baroni is a very common sense bracco Guy wrote a column saying this is the most dishonest news media of his lifetime and that he thinks it will come back to haunt the news media for having betrayed the trust of the American people. Are you worried that as those institutions crumble? WE'RE GONNA lose some sort of national cohesion. This has come up with almost all of my guests because everyone at this point basically agrees that the media is crumbling. They've done this to themselves they they seem to double down every time instead of having a moment of self reflection. But. Are you worried that if the New York Times fails if CNN if just the media and then the rest of the institutions because that then spreads academia and everywhere else that if these institutions all crumble. We almost have no way of having a national ethos at some level. Well look I think there are other institutions that emerge I think. Amazing amount of information now on the Internet grew facebook and Youtube. Ride witter all the twitter's very as a lot of hostility. But you know, and then you have places like C. Span which really are. Remarkably neutral. In fact, I have watched several trump speeches on C. Span. You also have an ability to stream things the president a strange a lot of his speeches and was the now watch his speeches. As streamed from the White House, we also practice during the lockdown at into watching both the Saint Peter's. And the basilica in Washington because they were streaming mass. So you entering a world of dramatically more media not less just as your show is another example of more media nonetheless media but we're GONNA have a really deep split because we're in the middle of a cultural civil war and there's just no question in my mind that this is the most divided. We've been since the election of Lincoln in eighteen sixty and his reelection in eighteen, sixty four, and that are the reason I wrote trump on the American futures that I really do believe that what happens this fall may do more to shape America's future than any election since eighteen, sixty, four and I say that because. I think that the Biden Pelosi Schumer teen. Will Be. So radical. that. We would not recognize the country within two or three years they would have moved so far to the left. Do. You think that it's the Biden Schumer Pelosi team that are actually the true radicals or do you think it's the it's the Bernie crew in the AFC crew beneath them that sort of just shifting them that way or do you really feel like they are actually that radical it's a little hard to tell these days. If they are a little more old school and the you know the tail is wagging the dog basically. Yeah. I mean little bit saying when you when you run over by the truck, you know, do you think the driver was deliberately trying to are? Jerry. You got run over when Schumer the other day came out for the ten percent cut in defense spending which sanders is offering as amendment. and when Pelosi brought up bill, which two hundred seven Democrats voted for. That gives a twelve hundred dollar bonus to every illegal immigrant. Aren't you think about this? Two hundred and seven Democrats voted to give a twelve hundred dollar bonus check who every illegal immigrant. I mean you have to wonder though these people just crazy. Biden, said that he would. signed the Pelosi Bill, which was three trillion dollar very radical bill You certainly didn't see Biden. Criticizing the looters and the violence. In fact, thirteen abiding the staff actually helped bail out looters and violent people in Minneapolis So I just you know I think there's a pattern in in the trump American future I put in. A chapter that the Democrats love criminals and hate beliefs and I think if you look at Seattle Minneapolis Chicago New York I think that that's the objective evidence. So as we watch these progressive cities, crumble the several you just name there and we can. We can go on the list all the cities with the worst violence and the worst gun violence and the highest rates of murders. They're all I think nineteen out of twenty or something like that are progressive run cities. Do you sense that sort of what those mayors and the governors to another extent want is they want the chaos so that trump has to bring in troops or the National Guard there almost laying out a trap so that he looks like the authoritarian that they wish him to be. No I I think. The man don't think they mind that happening but I don't think that's what they're doing. I think that the left. Really. has this fantasy image of how the world works. And they really think that if only they were no policemen instead sort of like they the democratic mayor of Seattle who said that we're to have a summer of love when they created the autonomous district now or people got killed and she gave up on that although ironically Chin really give up one until the demonstrators came to her home one night. When they were surrounding her house yeah. That's. The said something that's real. But I think. Part of it is that they're they're radical left-wing ideology. Doesn't allow them to deal with reality. So you end up with a let's cut the of the New York Police Department of billion dollars when the were I, think. Thirteen people shot. Yet on Monday Chicago has few too few policemen not too many and they have a dozen or more people shot every weekend. After all the problems in Minneapolis, they're now moving to. Dissolve the police department and to. My. mind. You know if you if you stop and say walk me through this. there's an armed gunman. It's two o'clock in the morning. You're going to send social workers. Chat with the gum I just need to understand. How their worldview works but I when I went back recently Rachel Peterson is our chief researcher and she pulled up thirty five pages of material on the actual black lives matter organization. Knowing you founded by three Marxists When you read about their real beliefs, you begin to understand they live in alternative worldview. They little world where the police are really very dangerous and they don't quite have an explanation for all the other people get killed. You're if you're an African American male your three hundred times more likely. You'll be shot by criminal by the police that doesn't matter because you know the police are an extension of the authoritarian power of the white male dominated culture, which is what they're really mad about. Whereas if you just happen to get killed by your neighbor that doesn't count. So you know an eight year old girl gets killed in Atlanta. Well, that's unfortunate but it's not something that black lives matters going to do anything about which she wasn't killed by police. So euro gets killed in Chicago. Well, that's really unfortunate but. It's not really political event because she wasn't killed at least one. So you really have this very weird period underway where the left has. No. Model to explain how they would achieve peace justice. By the way they have no model to explain how they would educate children you look at Baltimore, which has the fourth most expensive school system in the country and has entire buildings in which not a single child can pass the exam not one. To which binds commonsense this week were maybe we need to quit. catching because after all. Probably makes them feel better they didn't pass the test. Right, and then, and then at the same time, they don't seem to want school choice charter schools to allow for more ability to get a plurality of education out there and help these kids. It's it's quite. To say. It can't be because Democratic Party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Teacher's Union. I think a one recent conventions after the delegates from the teachers you. The Teacher's Union is essentially a machine to get paid. Undue of teaching you can tell that by the fact about school. and has nothing to do with effective teaching. You can tell that because look at Baltimore when you think of Baltimore as a machine for the payment of union members, it is a remarkable system. If you think of it as an educational system, it is unbelievably terrible system. And the Democrats cannot they. They have no capacity. To Take on the Teacher's union anywhere in the country. So they basically say, yeah, you might be destroying the children, but at least union will help you get reelected. Guys just a quick reminder that the Rubin report community is officially here. This is the first project of my new tech company locals, Dot Com, and you can get ad free video ad, free audio podcast. You can communicate with me you can communicate with other fans. We've got a news feed that has no algorithm manipulation. There's no shadow banning or D. boosting or the rest of it. We're going to be building these communities for all sorts of creators over the next coming months. But right now, you can sign up at Ruben report DOT COM or you can download the Rubin report APP in the apple APP store or Google play So with all this in mind, what do you think the Republicans if anything could be doing better as we're watching monuments being taken down and we're watching the mob just run across cities. See the Republicans are sort of talking tough game and trump's talking a tough game. But but are they not doing something that they actually should be doing because this stuff isn't stopping? Getting a couple of things I should be doing first of all in the long run, they should Republican. National. Committee to go into every major city and create a jobs. Prosperity and safety. Chapter. and start to organize everybody the city. To win municipal elections and state legislative elections were second terrifying people killed. And the plan flag every one of these cities and say we're going to reach out to everybody who's sick and tired of having no jobs no schools that work. And having a relative shot. And if that fits you, let's talk about you know how you can be account not not. WE'RE NOT GONNA ask you to vote for some traditional Republican. We're going to try to help you take back your city second I think. That President has to look at the example. That Bobby Kennedy set in the early eighty and the early sixties. When Young Volunteers were being killed in. Mississippi in the civil rights. Movement. and. It was clear that the local sheriff who may have been doing the killing and the state police were not going to offend these. and. What they did is they said look, these are citizens. and. If you're not gonNA defend, them We. Are. and. They sent in the FBI. And I think in a number of these places that the young woman in Indianapolis the mother of a three year old who was apparently shot over the weekend or saying all is man. You know the perfect example where she lost all of her civil rights 'cause she's dead. I think they ought to say. We are now going to create strikeforce's they're going to be prepared to go into the south side of Chicago prepared to go into New York. Any place which has is clearly spinning out of control if you if you won't protect your own citizens we will. Because they're American citizens of and I think we have to be prepared to be much more aggressive and much tougher about the taking this on. Then lastly, we ought to create much bigger An and more attractive opportunity zones with the benefits so great and with with education opportunities. So Great though we can actually begin to create jobs in the inner city everywhere in the country. Are you worried with all that in mind that this, this mix between Cova and riots and protests is GonNa do sort of irreparable damage to small business across the board no matter what at this point because if you weren't taken out by Covid and now again with the lockdowns if you somehow survived I have a friend who called me yesterday who's a WHO's she's a masseuse usually goes. To people's homes, she can't go to people's homes anymore. She got a little shop over the last couple weeks just a little one room place. Now they closed her down and she's thinking of leaving California now, and she's not even sure what she's GonNa do for a living anymore that the average person you know the corporations can basically deal with these big blows, but the average person just can't. figure out a way to live if every month something crazy is going to happen. Even, big corporations brooks brothers resume. His a you know almost two hundred year old. Company. May. Actually be two hundred years old as filed for bankruptcy. A United Airlines. Even really big places he got in trouble but. The point you make is important in a couple levels. I worked very closely. With Alfredo Ortiz, the job creators network. they do terrific work helping small businesses and we have been much more proactive than the Europeans and trying to help small businesses. But. I think one of these you're going to see. Is. People are going to leave California people are gonNA leave big cities. I mean I would not be at all surprised to see New York moves virtually everybody who has any resources just because the taxes are too high the streets are GonNa be unsafe again, you know pe- people don't want to be in a place it's out of control. If you look at Seattle, they had the most radical member of the city council box about getting visas. Visa. Says the richest guy in the world is obvious targeted your socialist but. If you WANNA drive Amazon out of. King County and Seattle. You ought to look at the you know this is what AMC did what she blocked of going into her congressional district and cost that part of New York City twenty, five thousand jobs. And I. Don't think this meant when not surprise me one morning, their visas announced Amazon was moving everything out of Seattle. And the cost of the tax. Both directly from Amazon an indirectly from all the workers who would then lead. would be just staggering tournament who turn Seattle into Detroit. All. Right. So let's let's back up a little bit because I know we can. We can sort of focus on this for the entire hour but I, think your career SORTA. Well, we do several hours on this easily, but I think your career and some of the things that you have done might help sort of light away that we can get out of some of this stuff. So when when you were speaker of the House Can you just talk a little bit about how Democrats and Republicans could or could not work together and what you think has happened that has led us to just I mean there's virtually none of it now. How you were able to to make some of those fights and build some of those bridges or have some of those bridges burned. Well, I would point out that in fact. When the crisis really hit the spring the House and Senate, did manage negative Steve Mnuchin set the treasury, some real credit but the House and Senate actually worked together and produced trillions of dollars and spending. I mean. There was they did a pretty fast. It did it pretty cleanly. They also has been a steady stream of small bills that people can get together and Grim Lamar. Alexander. The senator from Tennessee is probably the best example that he's a genius at figuring out what they can do rather than what what they can't do But? The key who a we did. was very explicit and People WanNa know about it at can read a very simple small book of by Tom. Evans called the Education Ronald Reagan. Reagan had After his movie career and his TV career he ended up spending eight years working for general, electric. and. it was really interesting story because. You went around the countries of spokesperson he talked. About three hundred, seventy, five speeches to factories. So we had a lot of practice talking to blue collar workers taking questions being a celebrity which was great preparation for running for governor. And in the process Reagan was in a period where he wouldn't fly an airplane he did a really bouncy flight in late forty five. So he did not want an airplane again, don't eighteen, sixty five. and. So he went everywhere by train and the guy he worked for was a very conservative. Intellectual, the head of A. Human Human Relations and union relations of general. Electric and so this guy would give Reagan conservative economic. What's so here you have Reagan in you know riding across the country and a train reading conservative economics preparing his speeches. Well Reagan came up with a model which really got from of this particular guy. Which? Reagan summarized. Everyday language by saying my job is to shine the light on the American people. So they will turn up the heat on. Congress. What that meant was you had to a program like three or tax cuts that was popular enough. That the American people would say to their congressmen, I really want you to pass this. And I've been arguing apple that the administration should come out for a one year holiday in the. Payroll tax. Because it'd be enormously helpful. Got Me. And the self employed, and it would be more money in the pocket of every single working American. And that would be the kind of popular proposal that you could then build heat on. Pelosi. Not, because you're in the room negotiating with her but because you're talking to the whole country and the country's telling her members I, really want you to vote for this. So I really think that. When pretre example when we finally passed? welfare reform. there was a time there was a poll ninety, two percent of country, but we should reform welfare. Including eight percent of the people who are on welfare. Well at that point, half the Democrats voted with us one. Oh, one to one one among Democrats, because you went back home and people said you are going to vote for this. Aren't you and I think that's that's the real keys as pick fights that are so popular that the American people will pressure the Congress into being Ford. 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Way The media talks about trump or what people think about trump or what they say about half the country that getting anything that he wants done is is GonNa inherently be more difficult. Well I think to some extent it's more difficult but on the other hand. They. Did a great job of focusing on their tax cuts. They got him through. They got him approve. Those certain things that the Democrats wanted to do. he did a very good. He's done a very good job building up the defense system and communicating why that's really important. McConnell's done an amazing job getting in the Senate getting. Conservative judges approved the most successful first term I think in American history So it's a mixed bag I. Think I think trump finds it. I think at times his. Personal aggressiveness gets in the way of his effective. And I think that sometimes It's a little bit like mean. Bay. Packers at their feet at a great running back in Jimmy Taylor Lsu. And Channel was enormously strong guy. And some are made the comment one time. About, the fifth year in the NFL Taylor finally realized it was okay to go slow enough that the pulling guard to get ahead of you. And could actually block for you. You didn't have to go knock everybody down by yourself. I think trump is never quite learned the Jimmy Taylor lesson that you know there are lots of people who want to help the president. When he picks the right big issues have a huge army of people. Talking about it, helping the Congress, getting it through of but that requires a more. A slower paced and more leadership style rather than I can do it all myself. Yeah, are you shocked in all your years doing this and in government, and now in consulting how often it seems that the average person? SORTA doesn't know what's in their best interest like something like you just mentioned about the payroll tax cut or just generally tax cuts I'm always for tax cuts you cut taxes on business. Now people are going to have more money you cut personal income tax people are going to have more money. I would much rather people decide what to do with their money then then the government but yet a huge percentage of people seem to think, oh, we just have to keep throwing money at things. No matter what the evidence says that like just one of the ongoing battles that you have to have sort of intellectual elite. As. Part of some of it serving. If you'RE A. Racial Studies graduate from Harvard, and you have this great new idea for a program with federal government will hire six hundred racial studies experts brainwash the of us. I mean you just figured out a whole new career for yourself. If you're the teacher's Union. You know you'd love to have more money in that. That's understand what same thing is true for the police, union but I'm. So. There's a certain amount of over. self-aggrandizement there's a certain look. This is a fair amount of. not, thinking. About this stuff for a practical reason and free society most of the time you shouldn't have to. you know Oh and our education system right now. So totally screwed up as Reagan once said it's now what they don't know that scary. What they know that isn't true. Let me say one more thing about this though yeah one a great lessons I learned was from a book. By, Tony Schwartz Called the election game than how to win them. Sorry. And wouldn't get the name of the title announcing the wrong title. My Tony Schwartz was a great radio consult. Then went into politics did he did lots of radio ads and he was very good At understanding idea that. It's called the responsive court. His theory was he wanted to talk about something that was already in your brain. So, all he's doing his triggering the response he's not blowing it up, but he had very good sound rule he said never. Underestimate the intelligence the American people. Nor overestimate the amount of information they have. Very often they won't have the right information and so they'll look like. But if you'll make sure to give them the right information. They will then figure out the right solution and I found in my career those almost always true. and I'm trying to convince the frankly the Republicans this year that avail calmly and methodically run very fact based campaign the w shocked at how well they'll do for example In a Pew poll recently. Three out of four Americans oppose defunding the police. Now, an and frankly of of the twenty five percent who favor of defunding about half of them don't WanNa do very much. So. The really hardcore left wing radicals are about twelve or thirteen percent of the country. was when Republicans ought to be able to win that fight. You ought to build a beato bunch of House Democrats who are running around and in Senate Democrats. And frankly, since Biden Know Biden is in this wishy washy well I'm I'm really not for totally defunding what I'm for a little bit defunding Then ain't GonNa cut it not now known you say to him so two weekends ago there were a hundred and fifty two Americans shot in New York and Chicago combined one hundred and fifty two. So Mr Biden what's your answer? One hundred and fifty two Americans being shut in the truth is he has no answer. Are you shocked then that they ended up going with Biden I mean he's been around forever I know you're fan of Hillary Clinton but at least there was some base that was that was seriously excited about her that that's undeniable. But I don't see anyone that's excited about Biden and if anything you know he's obviously having some cognitive problems in the media seems to be running cover for it and it's it's I don't mean that to be gleyber. It's sad in a way but that there's no excitement behind this thing. Do you think they're going to regret that this was the choice? Well you you actually think something I hadn't thought about. This is a fascinating. Almost. Hundred Eighty degree opposite. Between the Republican selection process of sixteen and the and the Biden. Process. In. Sixteen trump kept knocking people. You know he better I think Jeb Bush, and he just methodically went after be. And just kept knocking him out. Biden passively allowed everybody else to shoot himself. So they would you know I mean everybody got a shot at it. Everybody had their moment the sun and then they fail. and. So people say well, not him or not her and Biden awesomely was I think relying on two things he have you started the dance with very high name I. D. I think only sanders had equal new nudity and second. He had spent. Eight, years standing next to Barack Obama. And in South Carolina, if you can carry the black vote in the Democratic primary, you will win the primary. And his entire. Reason. For. Being. was to set up. Hitting the South Carolina. So as long as he didn't knock himself out none of the rest of them have the ability to knock him out. And he said to be standing. And then they did something very smart, which is Sure. They were behind the scenes and they got three or four people decide to endorse him as soon as he went south. Sudan. This momentum of excitement that carries into Super Tuesday. Oh. Think about it. But Super Tuesday you're down to. Sanders. Who? However far to the left Biden is Sanders will always be twenty feet further to the left the Biden moves left Sanders move even further. So in the end sanders base was probably forty or forty, five percent of the party. Do you think we to do anything I I. Know You're not a Democrat obviously but unin either side as far as the primary process they run primaries very differently. We saw the disaster in Iowa. Do we have to continue with this or is there anything in modern times that we should do to change some of this? I mean, look I think the democratic. Party's incompetence in Iowa. Is. Just part of the health badly structured their parties I we had a very similar problem by the way in. Twelve. because. The truth was that Rick Santorum won Iowa the. Party chairman at that time called it for Romney. It took six or seven days for to be obviously sent Orem. So Santorum lost all the advantage he would have had going in. Romney had a false advantage. and the State Chairman I think was in fact the economically leaning towards Romney and ways totally head to resign. So when we we've had some of our own problems of the stuff but I think the primary process at one levels really a good thing. Because it does allow you. To go out and meet people now. The challenge is going to be. As we move into this age of social media on the giant scale. Whether or not it makes sense just because. You know we we've been in the middle of a full presidential race I would guess for a year now. And and. In, that sense. It's not clear to me how things will evolve in the future. We also had absolute proof for example, that The the Bloomberg. Spent a couple of hundred million dollars got nowhere because in the end when you watched him on a debate stage, this new sky was impossible. So. Introverted Business Al Shakes things out. Yeah wh when you were watching Bloomberg in those two or three debates I mean as a guy that was a great an are you are a great debater I mean you knew how to use the crowd you knew how to use humor. You knew how Outta directly go after opponent you must have been sort of painful for you to watch some of these guys that just have no idea how to debate is painful or is it shocking or do you feel good about yourself? No it's fun. I mean look as long as it's the other side, I'm happy to them to be incompetent. And I don't feel like I have an obligation to this is not like a an ice skating competition where I'm going to give them a nine or eight you know. So I watched some of. I don't actually watch. Probably as much as I should just because he's warring. Can only take so much of it, but I'll tell you in. Sixteen And late fifteen his start in the summer of fifteen. I remember the first box debate, which was the first debate of the two thousand sixteen cycle. And that's the one where Megan Kelly and trump this knock down drag up by. And sitting at home with Callisto, we're watching debate. And I was also watching. All the various online intellect, Time magazine, and Vogue, and a whole bunch of her all sorts of places you can go to register. We thought one. In about an hour and a half after the debate. And I? Once, an and what I thought was one of the. Most. inaccurate. Focus groups he'd ever done I, like frank lot role prince but what happened was? You'd have to be very careful and things like focus groups because a group mindset will set in. And if people conclude. He must've been bad because she said, he did BANSI must bed I don't want me to send you the good. So what happened with what was happening was all the experts were trashing trump. Once's focus group was trashing trump. But in a field of sixteen candidates. He was getting sixty seventy percent of the vote in these online service. And I remember turning to Costa about midnight yes and saying as a historian. There's an anomaly building here. The gap between the opinion and the average American is getting so big. That we should watch this carefully because something's going on we don't understand and that's really how I approach it. I I use a model listen learn help and lead, and I really find the world's so big it changes. So constantly that I. have to listen and learn all the time and so I approach every activity with A. Wonder, what I learn from it. You'll probably find this interesting actually when I had. David Horowitz on who I'm sure you either no or certainly not work I I asked him. When did he realize that trump was the real deal and he said it was the exact moment that trump got into the fight with Megan Kelly because he realized nobody else would have ever done it and that was it and he fully went there. Let's talk a little bit about history though because we seem to be in this time where we're. Racing history is there. Is there something that for my younger audience some piece of American history that maybe isn't the most known piece? That you think people should know more about that might help us get a lens on what's going on now. I wrote. Re novels about the Revolutionary War. And Four novels? About The or no fifty four dollars about civil war. And I think the most amazing won't the history of America. Is Christmas night. Seventeen seventy six. we did it in a book called the. Times. That try man soul, which is the woke from. Hanes. The crisis. Washington's Army has, shrunk from thirty thousand in September. About twenty, five hundred. And they have a council war and Washington says. Most of these guys. and. Listening and versus second week of January. And if we don't do something with the army will disappear. And, he says known all of us in this room. have no risk because if the army disappears, we're all going to be hung. So, we can take really big risks because reporting. Are Wife's already four. And so he came up with a plan who's complex new complicated. A icy river in the middle of snowstorm at night. And three different places he would lead the main elements. he had. Is a sign of great, leadership. He had taken Thomas Paine written an amazing. pamphlet called Common Sense which explained the revolutionary war everyday people. And and painted enlisted as a rifleman. And on the way through New Jersey Washington tech him aside and said, go to Philadelphia and write a Pam with explains. Why what we do we all thought this was going to be easy was going to be hard and we need explain it to us. So paying literally had gone Philadelphian wrote. The crisis. Washington had. His officers read from the opening chapter of the crisis as the men got in the boats. Crossed the When they finish crossing the river. They marched eight miles a snowstorm at night. One third of them did not have boots and had wrapped their feet and burlap bags. The next morning, they surprised the the professional German soldiers. After. Eight hundred of them. And ran like crazy across the river before the British Army could get. The News of that victory. Wrought fifteen, thousand volunteers into. It's the decisive war. Now. I site that for younger people because. All of these totally uninformed idiots. Who Downplay Washington have? No idea what real life is. Real life is not being coddled in some university surrounded by people who make sure you have a safe space. Real life is facing gigantic challenges and finding the character and the courage and the endurance build something do something real. and. This country stands George Washington shoulders. we would not have won the revolutionary war without him. We might not have gotten the constitutional convention without him and he served as our first president for eight years and established precedents which to this day. are the mark of freedom. and. I would just say it is tragic. We've allowed three generations of brainwashing. To destroy the understanding of the real, America for millions of young. America's. Well, it's an inspirational story but I can't end with that. So we're going to have to end can't end with that sort of I can't end with that sort of ending of what we've done to the three generations. So let's let's clean it up. Let's clean it up in a way I. Know You. You will do well, which is for all of the people that are worried right now they're worried about their jobs they're worried about the political polarization they're worried about lockdowns and Kobe and everything else. Can. You can you paint a bit of a future that they can be hopeful for that can get us out of this. You see it beginning to happen all around yet. we're going to have an explosive increase in the ability to educate people The recent the recent announcements by Amazon and Google and others an apple We're GONNA have remarkable capacity people go and get great job we're going to become once again the number one industrial country. In the world, we're going to remain the number one producer of energy in the world We're. GonNa. Get the Moon by twenty twenty four and we're going to be on Mars by twenty, thirty three. Our children and grandchildren are going to be literally mining asteroids and running commercial hotels. In Space we will have breakthroughs in medicine. were out to have I think a cure for sickle cell anemia, which will be of enormous importance of the black community When when we gat aging declared as a disease so that the NIH can actually focus on lengthening lives I. think the odds are very good that we are going to have something like. The average person living living very healthily. The hundred, ten, one, hundred, twenty not not getting with literally being active in having a full life so. I think the long run trajectory human races. Pretty good. Do we have problems here? We've always had problems so nature life. but I think that the. Young people have every reason to believe. That by the end of their lives, the world will be more interesting, more exciting, more prosperous and the opportunity for adventure be even greater I knew you could do it Mr Speaker, how do we? Where should I send people? You've got like a thousand websites and a million projects where we're going, we send people to you're not retiring any time soon. If my my newsletters, my podcast, my books, all those things are gingrich three sixty. They can also, of course, the books that either horns a noble Amazon or any. Major. Bookstore. And I'm very proud of trump in the American future is I. Think it captures some of this extraordinary gap between Abed, future with the left than an amazingly good future If we win this election is slow.

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Ep. - 204 - CO-EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF JOE MILLIONAIRE

Reality Life with Kate Casey

53:28 min | 11 months ago

Ep. - 204 - CO-EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF JOE MILLIONAIRE

"Welcome back to another episode of Reality Life With Casey hoped that you're having a great week week. Today was my son's eighth birthday. I cried at least five times. I'm a total wreck. When it's my kids birthdays? I just go back to the day they were born and I just think about it and then I start losing my mind and I weep in front of people and it's highly embarrassing. That's normal right to just totally cry when you think of your child's birth. I've also been keeping myself busy this week by watching the new season of the crown. I cannot overstate how fantastic the show is now. It's a scripted drama but it almost feels like a reality television show because you're getting an inside look into history having to do with the royal family now. I don't think there's anybody that interest most people more at this point than what's going behind the scenes at Kensington Indian Palace especially between William and Kate and Megan and hairy. So I love the crown because and I might add. This is the only show that I can watch with my husband husband because you know he watches war movies and he watches shows like billions and succession. And I watch garbage shows so this is the one that we can watch together. And and it's my favorite kind of show because we google the entire time. There's so much British history that I never knew about and you can't believe the stories is that have gone on that we never knew about an. It's because the people who work at the Castle Kensington Palace are masterful in doing lean crisis. Pr They have covered up so many stories that the crown reveals that. You can't even believe it so I don't know I kind of feel like if view love reality shows you're going to love the crown so please watch it and also Andrew being in the news all the time right now. It reminded me that I heard a rumor a couple years ago ago. That Angie Everhart son is really Prince Andrew. Whose child is that true and somebody kind of do some research on it? I feel like I heard that I don't know if I've ever seen pictures of her son so I don't know that was something that I heard this episode. I'm freaking gain out about not only because I asked Jamie keilor's to watch unpolished on. TLC which is a new show and his take is so funny. But I've got a chance to talk to Liz Bronstein. who was the show runner and CO executive producer of a fantastic show that lives in infamy called Joe Millionaire it aired in two thousand three on Fox and it was like nothing we ever seen because Fox put together show that was basically earliest spoof about the bachelor but got someone to pretend that they were a really really wealthy heir to the Marriott fortune but was in fact just a construction -struction worker and the whole theme of the show is like Ken? We full these women. Will they think that he is Joe Millionaire and then at the end. If they're the finalist list they get to find out. He's really construction worker and the real question is will she stay with him if she knows he doesn't have the money. And I'm telling you people going bananas for the show. It has the highest rated finale in reality television history. It was like thirty four point six million which is on heard of you think of like in basic like a week real housewives of Orange County. We'll get like one point. Two million viewers thirty four point six million people and I just remember Knbr was on the cover of magazines. People went crazy for it. Of course there were less reality shows them and people were really captivated at that time with the bachelor so this this kind of gives you a little glimpse into or audio glimpse into what the show was about There was an average Joe. The living by simply moving to a we need married Ninety thousand dollars the year. What will happen when every Multi millionaire red wine going there. He talked the ways of the world. Now Evan will invite twenty beautiful women Chateau in France. The Lee has just inherited over. Fifty Aw Man Dreams is honest. Aw He will love with Richard It really is. I never dated into highly. That made a lot of money. The reason for living in a fairytale. It'd be interesting to see how it plays out. We'll have detail about every to explain goal story by fifty million dollars because the more you think about it. He's mine. Get over it. I have never seen grown independent self-sufficient women I'd like such brats. I'm a competitive person Waist deep in it now I can't I can't go back. Thanks RASA coming to treat no matter how much myself Apollo realized about anything. Oh my gosh. Now when they're showing this they talk about him making nineteen thousand dollars shopping French fries into his mouth and he's working at this like dumpy construction insight and then you see him in France at this over the top castle and these girls. Oh my gosh. These were the days before they wore hair. Extensions and spray tans an eyelash extensions and they seem normal like they have real jobs and like hopes and dreams for the world outside of TV or at least seemed it and it was unbelievable and every buddy in the country was talking about it seriously we everybody was obsessed with it so I was so excited that I got to talk to Liz Bronstein. And I'm so thrilled for you. Hear that interview so here we go. Liz Bronze Dean is a showrunner and executive producer known for several hit series including whale wars. CNN's believer with resume as Lon- and Ocean warriors she is filmed all over the world including remote dangerous environments from an article to the South African Bush and and made a string of hit shows that broke new ground in the reality documentary genre. Liz was the show runner of Miramax Emmy nominated project greenlight on. HBO and Joe Millionaire on Fox which still holds the record as the highest rated reality finale in the history of television welcomes the show. Thank you thanks so much bill to be here so tell me a little bit about how you got into television. Well in high school I was always that girl. It smells like darkroom chemicals. I had a darker my bathroom and I love photography and I love being alone in a dark room and when I left college I really wanted to be an editor And so I got Like it was easy at that point to get a job at CNN in Atlanta. They were just starting out and so I did. I moved to Atlanta and I worked my way up to news editor news editor for about five years at CNN in an at a really exciting time But then at a certain point you know you're you're just you're good and you're fast but there's there's no real way to get better as a news other in my opinion. Yeah and the avid. Just come out and I literally read the avid manual and taught myself how to use the avid. And I got my car and I drove to Los Angeles and I said I was an avid editor. And then I you know you can tell you make it and so what was the first project that you really that you worked on that you felt like I've really made it. I'm not sure I've worked on that project yet. You know you're you're always you're always challenging yourself and always feeling like you better and You know you're constantly learning thing and always feeling like you're failing and succeeding and failing and succeeding and of all the projects that you've worked on. What would you say thus as far as the one that holds the closest place to your heart? Well there's two really One is jockeys. It's a show that I did for Animal Planet in a two thousand nine two seasons and I growing up I grew up in a in a gambling family And my stepfather bet on the horses for a living. Although my mother would say was not for living it was just something he did. And I always love the racetrack. Doc and I always wanted to make a show about their jockeys and was lucky enough to sell that series to animal planet and so we did two seasons out. I cannot need a Following six jockeys through their lives and that show is just so close to my heart. I just I love that world I love those jockeys and and the stories. We were able to tell them that. Show so if you can find that somewhere online. I'm very proud of that. And then you know the second one one is Joe Millionaire. I mean that that was a really incredible project. What I remember most about Joe Millionaire is really? How captured all of America's Erica's attention? I can still remember reading that. The cast of friends were captivated by the show. And we're all taking bets on. What would happen to walk us back through history and tell us how you became involved with the project? I had never heard that thing about friends. That's interesting 'cause we were. We were making making it as it was airing so we were in this sort of crazy. Production bubbles so they're at school. I never hear that Okay so here's how here's how Joe happened. I had done season one of project light and it was my first job as show runner and the second season project greenlight. There was an incredibly long time between the first and second can seasons. 'cause it's a complicated deal with all those big players so sitting at home and I got a call from A friend of mine. WHO's a producer who I had produced some stuff for and he said okay? You can't tell anyone about the. Here's the here's the project is from Mike. Arnold Fox. We spooked the bachelor. A guy pretends to be a millionaire. He's actually a construction worker in the end he reveals all and it's a total secret show. I was like I'm in. I'm in and I literally. I walked away from project greenlight and decided to do this. Sort of crazy Razi Aziz show and partly it was because you know I could feel right away that it was a narrative concept as a reality show and that's and that's really rare. You know I mean it was really a ROM com. It was like somebody percent pretends to be someone. They're not in order to see if they're really love for who they the. How many seasons at that point had the bachelor been on because it was pretty? That was pretty early into the bachelor and people were really obsessed with the bachelor so this was to make fun of. It was probably a pretty big deal. Yeah I think I think they had only one season. It's not to it was. It was all pretty now so I signed up. So I you know it was the company called rocket science laboratories and it was. It was run by two guys who I knew really well and had worked with before and was very close with Chris Collin and let me show me you know we started off and it was this big secret and I pretty quickly decided that the best best way to keep this gigantic secret was to make it sound really boring so I named the show the big choice which sounds really boring and I told my agent. I like my family all my friends. I said that we were basically doing the Bachelorette we're doing you know the Bachelor but starring a woman and made it sound really dull so nobody asks anymore questions right when you're doing a project that doesn't sound interesting and I had policy on the staff that nobody could write down the secret on paper and this was you know the Internet was really new but still nobody can put it on paper because I feel like once something goes on paper the secret out and then it would all be ruined. Tell me a little bit about the a choice for Evan Marriott. How in the world did you guys We had a casting director. WHO's incredible edible Tyler Ramsey and we searched high and low? And I mean we must have seen hundreds of guys and the thing that we didn't really anticipate eight was how hard it would be to find somebody who was a with a blue collar worker but had had the swagger and the The attitude of someone really wealthy right and we didn't really think that through you know all the guys that we met. Who had were these blue collar? Construction workers there was just no way they could have pulled hold off acting like a wealthy person And we went through hundreds of guys and we'd gone to the point where they were GonNa shut the show down. I mean we just couldn't find her Joe Millionaire and then are casting director. Tyler was driving Pathak and -struction site and and he saw Evan working construction site and hold over what had just walked up to him. and Said Hey would you be interested in this. I mean it actually happened that away. That's wild and it. We're GONNA last minute thing. I mean it was like Oh my God get him in front of my. We found the guy we found the guy. Let's let's move forward at the practice. Do you think that he thought this process through or did he just seem like he was up for anything during the headlights here in the headlights yet. No idea what he was up for. I'm going back to preparing for the show. You know my first meeting with Mike Darnell. Oh at Fox and you know Mike Their analysis this amazing guru of reality TV. I mean the guys responsible for creating so many genres event just so brilliant and my first meeting with him he said Liz. We're GONNA make these women look like gold diggers that gold diggers that they are. And we're GONNA in a shoot this on an island and we're GonNa make them bikinis and we're gonNA prove lunar gold diggers and I was like Mike Newsflash Josh women want to be with the best hunter in the tribe Like I don't think that That is any kind of big revelation that women want. WanNa be with a man who can take care of them And I don't think that's the point of this show at all you know. I think it's a romantic comedy. And it's it's about actually finding love being loved for who you are and why don't we shoot it in France and make it a fairytale like put women in Bikinis like let's just not do that. Come on on let's get a horse and let's get carriages and and let's make it like a real life Rom Com and he was like okay. Fine just make good escaped having Basically the Paradise Hotel. How did you prepare him for the show uh-huh and he's got to play the part so he has to have some working knowledge of really fancy? Schools has to have certain table etiquette. He has to know about luxury luxury. Items was there somebody on staff who prepped him. Questions and the truth is just didn't have have time. I I mean I you know. I can't remember the timetable. But we had to put Evan through psych screenings and background checks. And you know by the time we got him approved. I mean I think maybe we had had like a couple of days before you had to get on the plane so these are all things that we didn't have time to do. I mean we literally had to buy his wardrobe when we you were in Paris because we had not had time to get him close in Back in Los Angeles and I remember we shot these sequences of Evans Etiquette Training. where he learns how to use which for us and all that which we shot afterwards because we have time time? Wow so one of the problems was that Evan didn't know any of this stuff And he you know the fact that his last name was Marriott was just Kinda gift you US people thought that he was a descendant of the Marriott family which there was no relation also. The funny part is that the Marriott family is like Mormon family so if anybody who it like really thought through in terms of the contestants they may have thought a lot will if why is he drinking. If these Mariotti is probably part of this Mormon family yeah no relation no relation and in fact. I remember the first scene. We decided that Evan would ride in on a horse and of course he had never ridden a horse and we were take that he would just fall right off and so we had him ride like the tiniest distance on my the oldest force could find. I mean you're so you're saying it and I absolutely remember but I think that the part of that you're totally right. It was almost like a ROM com because he seemed so funny. Johny the whole thing just seemed like absolutely hilarious. How were you able to find women to cast because when this show came about it was way before you had contestants that were really about you know? Obviously growing their instagram fame. And we're really savvy to the entertainment industry three. So how were you able to find. Women like the two finalists who really felt like. They were plucked from obscurity and had normal jobs. Well they they really were plucked from obscurity. I mean you're absolutely right. This was you know bachelor had an on for one season this genre was in its infancy and you you know there was. There was no sort of comedy trope of. I'm not here to make friends. The girls were all over the place like some of the girls were there to get famous. I mean there were a lot of times. We had cut out conversations where they talked about which morning shows that they wanted to be on the show. Oh my really At yeah even back then. We're like this is GonNa launch me and there were other girls. Were just genuinely there to have denture. you know. I can't say any of them more so naive that they really thought that they fall in love but but it was a much different time. They weren't sort of J. as jaded and cynical As they are now and much more innocent did they. Were there situations that you had to cut out out while you were filming where someone was starting to question whether or not he was legitimately from this wealthy family. Well they never questioned whether or not. He was from a wealthy family but a lot of some didn't like him very much. That was what we had to cut around like. Evan wasn't particularly charming with the girls. He wasn't really that interested in them. I'm not saying that he didn't like women but you know he just didn't care that much he wasn't really there to find love and there were times where I would say like Evan. Just go to dinner with this woman afterwards. I'll let you have a pizza party with these guys and it'd be like okay do it. Yeah and you know the girls could sense mm fat he you know. He wasn't romancing that he was sort of phoning it in and he wasn't sophisticated and he wasn't charming and they for the most part they were not smitten with him and and so we had to cut around a lot of that. Like you like Evan. I don't really do you do You know so but part of what you do on those shows and now the people who who have made these shows for these last years have announced with science and we were just learning and at the time as you know once you cut off all contacts with the outside world you know you you you create this really unreal environment and so these. These contestants live in this bubble Play up constantly this idea that he is amazing and I would interview the girls constantly. You know on camera and I would just say things like Oh my God. You're so lucky to get be getting to meet him. He's so amazing isn't he. And you know all the producers we constantly were were playing up. How terrific? Evan was and you know you. Don't you're not reading a newspaper these girls you see TV. You're not reading the Internet. You can talk to your family. And so you know the idea on these shows is that you create this this really sort of surreal the environment where the contestants are to believe that Success Equals winning this thing. I mean I'm sure a lot of other producers talk to you about that you know. There's there's a real kind of Method to it we were doing in the dark. We were figuring it out. I've never done a show like this and We were just kind out of bumbling through it. How often were the women sort of processing that like? I don't really like this guy but I know this is a great opportunity the need for me. How can I stay in this game? Can I make it through. Because I know in the end it will propel me somewhere. Did you get get a sense that there were a lot of women that were kind of caught in that spot and if so how did you kind of keep them on course because in the end you really want somebody study to be at the end of this thinking that they want to be with him. Yeah absolutely I think it's human nature or you know as the field gets whittled down the people who are still there get more and more into it. Yeah so you see it on all these shows you know they might start Out there like no I just signed up for this and then when they think that they have a chance of winning they take it more and more seriously so as the field narrowed down it it get get it becomes very very serious girls. I think I mean listen. It was a long time ago But you know they offered to take it a lot more seriously. Do you think that there were women that were let go and thought thank God i. I'm glad I didn't have to be in the end of this and have to make a real decision. Oh I think so I think so I mean he. He was not a delight to be around. And you know. You're sorry Evan. If you're listening to this but I don't think he'll argue with me. That was not the best forty days of your life. And you know you're in this castle in the middle look nowhere and like the castle like not beautiful inside like it was a lot et cetera. Thing and you don't really get to do anything until we take you out on a date with him and so it's really boring And so I think a lot of them were like. Oh finally but of course you don't let them leave because they were going to go home and the a lot of you know there's a lot of nondisclosures and that's a whole oh simple thing But yes I think I think there were plenty of girls who were like. Get me out here for sure. So let's talk about the physical part of the show show like the actual making out no of course runner up. Sarah closer received notoriety when the media reported that during the course of the show she had appeared in bondage videos while while attending law school. I'm sure none of you knew that beforehand Or I'm assuming that you didn't know that beforehand and then there was a scene from the show that implied that they had had kind of made out heavy on a walk together and she claim that nothing actually happened so so two things It was foot fetish videos to make it even more salacious That that she was found to have don and no we had no idea right like Google it. You just wasn't that easy to find all this stuff out about people and we found out in the process when the press revealed revealed it So about that scene in the woods it was funny. I was at a discovery. You know the channel Discovery Big Producers Party a couple of years ago and This reporter came up to me and said Ed I said I'm Liz Bronstein and he. He introduced himself and I introduced myself and he said I know who you are. I have two questions for you. He's like I and he brought up the scene from jockeys which was so obscure and he figured out the tiniest cheat that we had done in a race. Where like you know jockey hadn't been in the race and we had implied imply the jockey was in the race and and I was like you're right? I mean you notice that you're absolutely right that that was a bit of achieve and then he said and I got I didn't know about the scene in the woods is also eighteen years ago like I've got no so here's the deal with seen in the woods. I kept saying to all of them to Evan. And all of the women do not run away from us. Do not take your microphones off like you guys all signed up for this like you know you're in this with us like when you let us film things then we see the reality but if you run away then you know. We don't know what happened so just don't do it and of course they did it But they forgot to take their mics off. So there's so thrilled that they managed to outrun. You know cameramen looking gigantic cameras. But we still have their mikes so you know it was this thing where at the time fine. We will really bummed out like I can remember being in the control room and it was this big crisis and evidence. Sarah lost the cameraman or like. Oh my God going to do. And he's going to be a great scene and we were all really glum and you had to give them a talking to and And then we were at it and you know here we have the the shot where they they run away from the cameraman and you see them disappear into the woods and and then audio just kept playing and I was like like wait. I've got play. Wait what what I was like you guys. Let's just lower this audio If we're doing a ROM com and we were You Know Hell. Let's whatever we think we're hearing let's just lower third at your probably excited because other point no one really wanted to make out with them so it's probably like finally someone's actually into the sky we we gotta show now exactly so I was the juiciest pick up for sure so we ended up choosing this woman named Zora now. Oh she seemed like snow white like a somebody who was a saint that like rocked babies to sleep. was that impression correct. She was heaven sent. We couldn't believe our law. She was exactly that she couldn't have been kinder or sweeter or more genuine and she really liked him like she genuinely genuinely felt a connection with him and You know here. It was dispersed sort of classic. You know the blonde and the Brunette and you know one. One is pure as a driven snow one is kind of conniving and did fetish porn which we didn't find out so later And in fact there was this one. We see where Zora was out in the woods. I think it can remember. And she was sitting under a tree and she just so Oh snow white ish and you wouldn't believe how rigging sweet and Nice and scroll was. I was like you know what let's get. Some animated birds in having housing land on her shoulder like she is now and we literally did that Just because it was funny like she was such a you know so Exactly what you wanted her to be. And it was very surreal whole Because you know you can't plan that kind of stuff you can hope or it but then it just sort of happens you know. I mean he picks them. I'm for real so well. The issue was like that absolutely lovely. The show was so successful it had an average of thirty four point. Six six million viewers tuning into the season. One finale can you believe that I mean that those numbers are unbelievable crazy rate so we shot the show rap like right before Thanksgiving we get back. I mean it was the most exhaustive awesome. I've ever been and I'm just laying on the couch watching television and and you know we think we're going to air and like March or April. Maybe this summer and I'm lying on the couch and it says is Joe millionaire premiering January second. I was like well. That's what we need it for January. The second I call Mike. I'm like Mike I thought we weren't premiering until the spring and he was like nope. Change my mom. We're putting you on right away. You got great stuff. And so we worked around the clock to edit that show I mean I have. I worked so many hours that I had to have a day day assistant on the night. Wow because we had so little time You know to get through all that footage and and and and craft that show so we were delivering episodes as they were airing unbelievable. Vive really didn't and you're working around the clock so we didn't really know everything that was going on about like the Saturday night live skit. I've never seen about it but like we were you're in this bubble of of post production and You know and then and then the finale airs and then you know you sleep for a month and so so Yeah we KINDA KINDA missed it. I mean there was a point. We're drinking so much coffee. I got really obsessed with the coffee. Mate Hazelnut creamer and I started calling it crack cocaine because the only thing that could keep me going and I remember saying to like a production assistant just like I need you to get any more cocaine and they were like. They went to the line for this narrow problem. And they're like no she meant coffee mate. For God's sake they get her. The coffee made so yeah. It was It was really crazy and we We work we were through it so he chooses Zora and the and end they split one million dollars. Obviously the relationship did not last he goes back to contracting in Orange County. California on like we're in the world is Zora ago. Do we know so. She became a spokesperson for weight watchers. Wow she didn't like weightlifters commercials you can find them on the Internet. Yeah and then I think she got married and let let us we life. I don't know and then Sarah did playboy. Of course she did of course and then he just disappeared off. The face of era just never did interviews after that she did a lot of really really angry interviews and And then playboy which I had framed on my office forever And then I don't know what happened to her. Yeah I don't know what's the one thing that you wish made it to the show that we never got to see So we thought about shooting this scene after Oscar it was all over and we never did So the whole concept apt. Was You win a million dollars and believe me like trying to write the explanation of why you got a million dollars for being on the show with like a lot of like fancy footwork like because magic exists in love is magic and magic is here. And here's a million dollars. I was like we giving them money. Running right And so but we you know it's it's a game show and so you know her. FCC Regulations You have to have a lot of rules in in place and so we had a lot of rules in place and one of the rules that have never knew. Is that nobody. Nobody has if if at the end of the show he says to her. Meet me at the search. There was it was like a horse. Stable meet me at the church and If you still want me now that you know actually construction worker and I'm not a millionaire. If you still like me. Meet me the church at noon. And so then he's waiting and then of course she does meet him and the oldest magical stuff happen but if she had not shown up he would've gotten the whole million. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. I don't know it was pretty darn great the way that it ended. I mean I think it's one of the greatest shows that ever was i. I can't tell you how many people still talk about it. I mean it's just such a great concept and g you look back and just think thank God I was part of that because what an experience Yeah I mean it was one of those released of Surreal And it was. It was one of those like sort of like reatives tumbles that you take you know there were so many creative risks that that I got to take on that show partly because it was a a genre that was so new and it was so inexpensive expensive To shoot these reality shows compared to all the scripted shows that that all these networks had on right like we were like Simba full of money and so we didn't have a ton of oversight plus. This show was a big secret right so really very few people knew what was happening But still so you know we were with these low budget shows and Mike are now with always willing to take a ton of great abreast. And you know we had this host to just like wasn't a great and it wasn't really working with her and One of the things that we decided ahead of time was like I haven't needs a butler like we need more things to make him see wealthy because he just wasn't going to be pulling that off so I went to like butlers dot com. Tom and we found like a butler. And we just hired him and he was so good. Yeah really charming. And so after we finished in the show I had this idea Eh. We could like really play up the comedy and make it almost like a masterpiece theatre deiter booth and so I went shell who I worked for and I said okay I have this totally crazy idea put paw aw in front of a fireplace. A snifter liquor and he's swirling it and we open and close every show with him kind of like giving us very funny overview overview and. He was like that sounds insane. I was like I know. It's like either really brilliant or really awful but like price sit out like ten grand found this place in Pasadena we can shoot them all at once like bought me money like let's just give it a shot because why not and so we when we shop these crazy wraparound with Butler and then we re cut the show you know to make him a much bigger character than he was at the time he was just meant to sort bring messages in and out and You know you look at today and it's like this crazy bananas thing where there's some like Butler in front of a fire opening and closing the show. I mean it. It's very surreal and so much fun. And and that's what I love the most if you got to kind kind of take these crazy risks and subtitle people running through the woods and have you know birds land on or shoulder because she was so sweet and You know kind of make this really out of the box Hamady where nobody really expected a comedy you know. I think my goal was like if people tune in and they think that they're going to see that women are gold diggers and instead we we make fun of the Bachelor we booth it and and we you know we make at this comedy but with a lot of heart at its core And so yeah it was was well. I can't tell you how much I appreciate. You telling me all these stories because it takes me right back to two thousand three watching it. It was such Gotcha great show. I'm I'm sure that you look back and think that was like three minutes ago but like that show deserves serves the the trophy of all trophies. Very well done and again. I appreciate your time if People Wanna learn more about you and then the projects. So you've worked on. Where can they Look look that up Well I built a website. Liz Bronstein DOT COM. And they go there. There's a couple of clips of the different shows I've done since then and Yeah let's DOT com. Thank you so much I appreciate. She did yeah. Thank you and thank you for doing this. Really Cool podcast. I've listened to a bunch of episodes. And you're you're a great interviewer and and it's so great having somebody can and dive into the history of this really fun genre. Jimmy Taylor is an actor comic and host and I have groped him into watching a new show on. TLC It's called unpolished which focuses on the colorful personalities of the women who own run the Trendy Long Island Salon Martone martone Jamie welcome to the show. Thanks for having me and Roped in is probably the term. I believe I was roped into watch that show. This show is about Lexi martone nail artist. Her sister Bria. WHO's the hair color is makeup artist or their mother? Jennifer works the Front Desk and Foxy Grandmother. Grandmother other works as a hairstylist at the salon. How much did you know about this show before I asked you honestly I never heard of it and I was certain certain it was actually a real show? I thought maybe you were punking me and it was just going to be like I would open it and then it was going to be a virus that attacked my computer. Computer never heard well so Lexi does nails at the salon and not just manicured. She turns nails into works of art. She can work with any theme mm-hmm and turn fingerprints into fabulous showpieces. Were you surprised at the artistry that one can do with nails and not just nails is pretty much talons. Yes I I mean should I should I tip it I I really love love this woman. I've actually really like the show so like ten minutes into the show. I yelled for my wife and I was like you have to come see. This is actually. You would love this show. This was it was really once. I saw her paint the nails. I was like Oh hold on. This woman uber talented she. She paints a picture of a woman Sonogram on the nail and it is dead image. It's like spot. It's like one of those people do paintings on rice. We're like did that. Just paint the Mona Lisa on a kernel of rice. Nice and I. I was like so impressed right out of the chute kind of drawn in immediately so she says that she that art helped her overcome pass struggles weight and low self esteem and after placing second in an upcoming nail artists competition. That are confidence grew. She Lost Weight and Turner Talent and passion for Nail Art into a successful business. I don't know if she's charging enough for these nails. I looked it up. It looks like a manicure costs about one hundred and seventy five dollars now. I don't understand first off why somebody would wanna put that money into nails. Went Nail Polish basically chips off in a week unless you get a Gel manicure. So that's quite a bit of money and I don't know how you could do things like cleaning up the counter or type or put clothing on with talons. Sounds that long. I do know that the longer when she talks about the fact that they pop pop up 'cause she puts she actually for the musician girl she he creates A boombox that make sound and a rotating disco ball. That has a motor on. Like you told somebody that was your nails thing. I honestly did wonder and marketing way. More expensive actually be thousands of dollars to get the nails with the motor and stuff in it but yeah like the manicure Sir alone I would. I would hate her talent I also she finished second. Where's the girl who finished? I I mean you must be the most amazing artist of all time because I was actually truly impressed and you know. And then all of a sudden she kind of drags the rest of the family into of this show because the sister. She's like oh I tell her hair and They go with the cut it she goes. I mean I theoretically I can cut. I know how to work. Works Scissors from my real talent is color. And then they you know every now and then they cut the hair coloring and girls hair with some crazy rainbow which looks great. But you're like yeah it get it get it girl who's actually truly talented as an artist now in addition to the show. They've got soksi grandma. They've got the father. What did did you think about one? The lifestyle this family and to the ancillary characters like the grandmother and RIAs fiance. Fox's grandma's awesome. I would love to have seen her reality show and she was like twenty one. She would've been it would've been insane. It would have been like in the late forties the fifties and you know like she would be like she would have slept with. Elvis like Elvis would have done a Gig Nassau Coliseum on Long Island and foxy grandma. Banged Elvis like. That would have been her life. She was cool. I liked her big my I I mean I love them all. I really enjoyed the show. Big Big Mike At least on a diet or he's not gonna live through season three. He's I mean he's pretty heavy and can barely breathe but they are obviously extremely extremely well off long before she started a business because the home is I mean although it's it decorated like a scene out of Goodfellas a The home is huge and and gorgeous. I don't know where it is now. But it's it's definitely big. Mike make some money right. I don't know where the money came from. Got Big Mike you know I. I don't know if he's GonNa be with Mauve but in big might get some money and he's also seems like the nicest guy chart so I liked him. I I do too okay. You also host haunted live on travel channel. I have to know what you think about about this whole paranormal world. So how did you get involved in this and has it changed your perspective on the paranormal It's a great story I so I'm a former Navy lieutenant. I went to school on a rocky scholarship at Boston. University and became lieutenant after my boys Discovery reached out they the American Heroes Channel. which was the old military channel they were doing a show called America facts versus fiction and I ended up hosting? Ah I love it. It's about history And it was on the American Heroes Channel it ran for four seasons. They're still in constant play on television so they were doing doing. I didn't really know travel channels under the umbrella of discovery. Discovery by the way is an amazing network so many channels discovery and under scripts and they make fantastic television a little time passes. I'm working on Tacoma. FD This comedy. Show on Tru. And I get this call. And they're like. Hey Hey we have this show called haunted live you liked to fly to Nashville tomorrow and host. That and I was like absolutely I would love to do that and so I go. I had no idea. The travel channel was basically the paranormal network. And I wasn't really familiar with that world so I flied Nashville and I work with the tendency rate chases and we'd be you liked and episodes of this go setting show and I'm indoctrinated into crazy world of the paranormal and ghost hunting and they are so much fun and I. They all had experiences a kid. And we've all kind of handles like rookie experiences in the house. Where like I feel like it'd been here? I see something and they all had a crazy stories. And so these guys go ghost and again I was basically the host so I'm not a ghost hunter. I'm the ghost hunters conduit to the audience. So I'm really just the host guy who does it so we did that for the whole season and then this past season they weren't they say we're not going to do a whole season of this but October is basically ghost tober on on travel channel. Would you come host a superstar ghost hunting events in Salem Massachusetts. Four four hour. Oh and by the way the shows were live line goes pun on the travel channel. Friday night at eight o'clock so I flied Salem Massachusetts this Catholics over and I do a four hour live Goes Time where I am. Not just the host really. Everyone else is in the house hosting. I'm in front of the John Proctor. After House who was one of the people who was hanging during the sandwich trial so they had all this celebrity ghost hunters Jack. Osbourne Portal's from Hell All their different shows does came in. And then I was just the central hub. Lie Online television and I would throw to. Let's go back to Jack in the factor house. Let's go down into jail. Oh we're so and so was killed. Let's go back to where the witches were you. The jury trial was held and stuff so but it was four hours of live television and it was pretty crazy. Will you ever watch unpolished again. and I'm surfing. I would totally stop and check in on the characters characters I did. We talked about this when I watched it. I told you that you know it's a reality show. And we're supposed to be following their life and stuff but it just it. He caught me off guard. That the sister's boyfriend who she's been dating for eight years happens to propose on the same day they're shooting the pilot so I I like the show I I actually probably would watch it again. But my favorite part of it was the artwork that she did on the nails more than anything so I thought she was Uber. Talented guber talented. So where can people track you down and tell them about your podcast. I'm standup and always been autobiographical. And I have a six year old and a four year. Oh and so I started this kind of it wasn't started deliberately to kind of blow up this way but it's the dabbling you'd springsteen fan based on the badlands and so we made the dad land and so there's a facebook group is a private group just for DADS who want to get away from their wives. Ask The question and then we kinda commuting. It's funny how many women tried to get into the dads group and I'm like yeah. You can't just do. But the data lands page where we share all kinds of parenting material and in that we have the Gatland. podcast where I interview you know. We started with Dad's but honestly honestly dad got boring so I started bringing on loans and people without kids because it was great to hear all sides of the argument. Well thank you Iraq Star. Thanks for having me. I want to thank my guest this week. I'm Jamie Taylor and Liz Bronstein. Remember you've got to go to the facebook group go to reality life with Kate. KC in the search button on facebook because there have been so so much. There's been so much scoop this week in that group. I cannot even tell you. And you're missing out you gotta jump in. I've got a patriot. Page P. A. T. R. E. O. N.. Dot Dot Com backslash Casey. 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... And Chill! with Kai Valentine: Episode 70 - Special Guests: Type Forty

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... And Chill! with Kai Valentine: Episode 70 - Special Guests: Type Forty

"Here comes again lunch. Lippi the same old same old or you ready to take a vacation from the ordinary with the new Jamaican Jerk Turkey sub at firehouse subs freshly sliced smoked Turkey breast crave ably sweet mustard sauce and a hint of Caribbean seasoning just five fifty five remedium save time order the new Jamaican Jerk Turkey sub on the firehouse subs APP firehouse subs enjoy more subs save more lives participating locations limited time only plus tax prices may vary for delivery. Hello thank you downloading the listen again. In addition of on Siren Radio My name's Valentine the host of the show and this is just a little bit three tests say that a few technical issues and the start of this week's episode at from the third in June two thousand nineteen and it all came from my microphone so as long as you can put out with a little bit of static from myself I two or three minutes than all will be good. I we've got the fantastic type fourteen live in the studio with us. It was an absolutely fantastic our entertainment and then you know I babbled on for the rest of it so yeah stick with us for the first few minutes it does improve on my end and enjoy the the show. Thanks for downloading. Y seven point three the midnight our strikes but I am not alone in the studio with this evening. I have a fantastic band and the name type forty. I've got Kit Tinsley and Gary Stone streets in the studio. How're you doing goes to the show first of all very much for joining me at very late notice for people who attune again hoping hoping to all the thinking that they're about to hear from Thomas Lock unfortunately at Thomas was taken ill Elliott today and therefore can't be here but we are looking to resheduled for some time in July but you made the trip <unk> from Sleaford and surrounding villages? He's Gentry East career to have you. Can't you've been here before a have yes. In fact it was episode to Michelle which came very long time ago eighteen months to the day spooky isn't it it really is and you feeling a little bit better from the less yes yes because I was quite. It wasn't a I barely talk. Let learn things yeah. That was the case you were you very very ill but you were here as a replacement on that day as is grit. Have you back now. Guys tell tell us a little bit about time forty when you got together and what the band is all about basically we're both in <hes> in bans is boring setup namely Mesa guitars drums and a lot of people in Nicosia Pliono so bans <hes> and always synthesizing music on okay as well and we just wanted to do sipe it different but wasn't actually sure if it because she be realize who do a belie yeah so we did some rough backing tracks and then just a gig locally and when out and just try it and she worked which is a surprise but <hes> yeah it was it was good but yeah it's just a bit different. I may not I unashamedly pop music but so cool pop music so it was decided I've always wanted to do and I thought not get any younger so scarlet enjoy it lay like like the surrounding villages of Sleaford. You have to make a distinction the music is this the call pop music. Yes there is a very very Finland distinction and for those out there who maybe a little bit like I was when I first started talking to look musicians. I've learned a little bit sense. What is since musical about what is electronic music at the very base of it well basically using synthesizers and sequences to create new who sounds really we use salt possess well to get different sounds and input more together and then just crichton some new really as layers and yeah about textures? I suppose yeah yeah it's just getting away from normal sounds trying to find different sounds. I would say yeah sometimes it is only so much she can do with a couple of guitars drums especially if it's if you're an with the same musicians year-in-year-out your writings falls into a pattern because yeah that's what everyone can do whereas with this. There's no limit to what sounds we can. What does that mean you just saw pick the difference over sound in it sort of can be inspired by sound? She wrote a new song. Yes coiffure these songs that we've done <hes> Lebanon spot more about sounds in the actual China Roy a particular style. If you like where we have one song called static yeah which is purely called static because that was the sound on the it was sounded like static yeah no idea what we call aesthetic and then he gave it to me and our other lyrics to be doing with standing still yeah well. I'm looking forward to talking to you. Both more about you know how the jewel works how how you got together and <hes> a little bit more about type forty in general but I think it's time for us to give the listener a little bit of a taste of what the band is all about now. You aren't GonNa be performing live in the studio later on but as we mentioned unites a little bit more difficult to portray your sound acoustically. Would you agree yes. We're GONNA attempt. That's a good point but we're really excited to hear more about what type four zero about so. Let's take a listen than to one of your tracks. This one's called disenchanted Jimmy Taylor on a little bit about it <hes> yeah this was the the first song we wrote together for this bound. We had a couple of songs already but they were songs that Gary had written and then I'd learned whereas with this is one gary had come up with the Choon the backing and then I came up with the Melody and the lyrics and my guitar parts and the structure we solve were just by start with loop lot of full bar loop and that's house only from that loop and that was it really so the certainly music is written quite quickly and the rest of it followed after well. Let's take a listen then you're listening to siren radio. It's twelve minutes past ten on the Monday evening taking you to midnight sitting back relaxing. She'll announce celebrating the fact that Monday is almost over and she was day is on its way this is disenchanted by tight fold say mm-hmm <music> Yeah Ah so purpose and <music> <music> disenchanted type fourteen year listening to Siren Radio Tunc f-faulty are here in the studio with me enjoying your time on the show so Fargo's eleven now Wendy type forty come together then I would say probably January or February last year yeah yeah but you guys had known each other for many years before yeah. We've been bound together prior to that fall about five six six years yeah yeah took billions talk on the world on father. I'm waiting to name type forty multi-car. Oh it's a big geeky. We both GEEKS. It'll be more of a gay. He's Mortgagee Kit Lights. Horror films are like Cheek Science sants fiction so taught ears and he geeks out there one. Though is the Mike of the Tartus dotto. He's the I should yes I do not the model of the target have so many of my friends at home going Kyw yes. Why didn't you pick Oh Palmisano yeah? It's <hes> yes. It wasn't my dear actually actually my yeah yeah. That's that's states in. I couldn't believe that no bounded actually used it before yeah. I probably have where we find out L.. O. Couldn't find sports very so that was disenchanted. As I've been released yes very soon it's releasing Aa side single with dont and cruel symmetry in which we're going to be hearing this evening yeah very soon with planning so <hes> recruit a video for <hes> which we've got of words are doing it because she got around to filming yet. However was a bit tricky <hes> but yeah you have just GonNa release everything that Saitama think yeah I mean we've got a different strategy? I think than law because we're planning to give away the single it. We'll be free to download probably from band cam from thinking <hes> Yeah Yeah <hes> so yeah the AA sought single will be free to download and then maybe the next single will <hes> with the move hopefully getting an album together gather by the end of the year which we will be charging money for yeah. We don't give them but you will get free singles if you look for them if he comes to gauge you certainly well. We're going to be giving away physical copies in front of that to the audience for now able now. We're going to hear you perform live in the studio tonight and the person that you're gonNA perform for his journey television a little bit about it. This was the first I sung wrote for the banish of Finke writer for a previous band that she but knock it so sore suited this star the issue recorded version uh-huh so the virgin we do live is or more influence boy A._M._d.. Which is popular lecture? Abandon the eighties as she rips of quite bit from the beginning anyway but an on this seacoast this acoustic version one here on this but yeah so it's about at just the lyrics to start that is about asthma attack from memory. Yes it was actually Bob Change Medication citizens. That's fun that is that is good tonight. Kill over the well has type forty get ready to perform their thirst live song of the nights. I'm going to remind you how we can all get in touch with the show getting touch on twitter at Siren Siren F._M.. Get the conversation going on facebook Siren Radio One. Oh seven three or you can text in audible seven nine seven eight hundred seven one six. Thank you for listening this evening. Due to an chill on Siren Radio It's twenty one minutes past ten on your Monday evening and we've got type forty until eleven o'clock but performing live in the studio is now time for type type full tease song forgot how to breath Acoustic Electra <hes> <hes> mm-hmm and <hes> fide into breathless you stood. I can't remember a single thing that I ah starting to shake skin feels Dab two-thirds <hes> jest feels tied. I don't feel like eating that surge. They sent the with Zach send. I suppose it's just as well as you meant so how was laid in bed when the talk to me they of set up a gun <hes> three three vandy we up with God how bree and I always find herself Stanford then there seems to be enough <music> strikes <hes> tell though what to head spins feet close <hes> rewind my mind to placement center of anything else can be detrimental jots scream for no one thing. I'll said often Brie Brie we that we have to three <music> you. Did it dude it it to place my centrum. Tom Else could be detrimental of a jot to scream and no one they are said often gun <hes> Brie Brie then the the <hes> <hes> free in siren radio. You're you're listening to Siren Radio that was type forty with forgot Howitzer breathe. We're going to be hearing more from the guys in a couple of minutes time after overthinking by Alfie Jack but first of Dugout a little jingle that the thing the boys might appreciates that haven't played for very long time tune in to siren listening to Cyrus plus as seven point five half and this is the doctor telling you so you must do it and just a love because the more nose day about to go laurel way older all to ideal you could have done what this is food ever to start a new alive so again once go. Oh it's so complex there's into the smooth and and down in the story must know any saw switch. She's twelve spas drops India comes regret Ahtisaari cool up the train station rotation of died of off so much shoulders it's so called this and did sue the small call but saw <music> <hes> and this you're listening to Siren Radio that was Alfie Jack local musician with overthinking. I've still got type forty in the studio with me Kit Gary. It's been fabulous having you on the show so far once again thank you very much for coming in at last minute and he's been grit learning about some of your music and finding what you've been up to over the last eighteen months yes yeah I mean it still fascinates me. The fact that it's actually Angela eighteen months to the day doesn't seem that low said as a compliment I guess birth before we hear your next song which I I'm desperate to hear the like the the meaning behind the end the story behind it and we WANNA talk about a couple of gigs that you've got coming up in the Lincolnshire area over the next couple of months and I know that you're the Saturday the fifteenth of June you're going to be at the legionnaires clip in Sleaford. That's right yeah. The interest in Newton Hometown Ish gig vicinity and then you're going to be at the new in in Boston on the Saturday. The twenty ninth of June yeah never played it before the boundary bustle back in sleaford October the nineteenth so <hes> you've got like a vast array of gigs there and I know you do a lot of Solo work most weekends. Yes yes do club singing. I I was going to ask you then which one you prefer. Do you prefer doing it as tight-fought. You're single. Those very very oak. Aggression is talk forty. That's why I wanted to ask you. Why what is it about being an Gio being on the love so much? It's always nice to have someone else there on the stage with different start-up in case anything goes wrong. You can blame them. What how can your General Richard just give or sacred blame the little box tricks work you can always kick it but also we do a lot of our our own stuff and the covers we do more of music? We listen to them. Perhaps I would be doing a working men's Club at the coast or something you know. I don't enjoy doing that and I I do tend to do songs. I enjoy I mean I had a Gig at the legionnaires enslave recently that you all came to an its first time that yes these guys actually saved me doing that and I've worn them that it was cheesy but he told me off because there wasn't enough cheese. There wasn't much in the songs yeah. It was a good slave songs applied advocate Tinsley as well yes and the next song perform for us. I'm going to let you say the title because it's a little bit of two tone with coming out. This last song was gary written this for previous. Previous band I wrote this song before we started because I was doing a lot of acoustic kicks at the time. A lot of mice on from the previous bound didn't really work that well acoustic so I needed a few more acoustic song so this is a wrote this folk song and together. We've turned it into what we call it a folk electric electro folksy shanty but yeah basically so I wanted to write something Fochi and it sounded kind of nautical when I wrote it so that's how the lyrics ended up and then I thought you know I'll nicotine all from a from a local boy Alfred Law Tennyson who wrote the poem the rhyme of the ancient mariner so this song is called the rhyme of the aching merit any copyright issues convinced yeah that is very so it's the Roy Moore of the King Mariner Mariner by type forty live on siren radio uh-huh and some covering interest Atlanta over and over again had it put coalition. They paid that decision though would causes pain if bob were religious so maybe he lifted just look for someone to blame but the waves capon crushing thunderous fashion as we had the spammy Spain. Let's be sleep. Let let be sleep. Let me sweep then on the way. Give me peace. Give peace beginning was shanties. I'm teasing digging. Is We sailed over the place. Now that cabins cuff two-mile necks hang enough to live bloods all I'd say very on water so we had back through the voter and hope that they don't give us chase. I love with derision. They've make their incision though the tears they streak by phase. Let me sleep. Let me sleep. Let me sweep on the way give me peace. Give Peace Sadda- let me live let be live eh to see give me hope. Give me hope nothing bothers the nothing that is except you and let me sleep. Let me sleep. Let me sweep away. Give peace give peace. Let me live let me live them and give me home. Give me let me he'll let me he'll let beat say this pain way. Give me strength. Give Me Strength Siren what I some point three visits us at Silent Online Dokodo U._k.. You're listening to Siren Radio that was tight full Turkey Harry more from the guys in a couple of minutes time claim including the new song cruel symmetry statue in for that stay tuned to Siren Radio <music> <music> <music> <music> yeah <music> Sir <music> <music> <music> <music> relax take it easy. You're listening to siren radio. We hope you're doing that on your Monday evening every Monday. From ten til midnight we sit back relax. Chill out and celebrate the fact that your Monday is almost over and Tuesday is on its way. Do you guys have busy busy weeks ahead. No actually always nice actually observe employers so yeah yeah <hes> I haven't gotten a plan to think why somewhat smart but maybe not if not Nasha produced some recording because he got new idea as with the clubs singing being my main source of income and it's not much working to the weekends as for Mason that like online and I'm a writer as well so trying to be writing most recently. We talked about this for the last time you were on airing factor. I was having discussion with staff member here at the station because we were trying to remember who was the famous person was that likes books. Oh I remember you telling me this and Nancy Sinatra was really it was it was the name drop moment and wonder where Nancy Sinatra me on twitter. Now you have found great success with your horror writing <hes> but you have said they it's been on the back burner for a particular reason yes my son Max. He's four and he's a little whirlwind so the last two years since he's been up and around properly I I haven't had time to even think about writing. Maybe sure children's book enough time. He wouldn't let us there's less worms but he starts school in September so hopefully you can get back to <hes> writing. What does he think of you singing? Oh He loves it. He actually came to well. He's seen US doesn't he is he. <hes> I'm not sure she ever came to that. WanNa sleep on the back of the Laura. Oh yes excited yes lavar early gigs but he him and his brother older brother came to their first one of my clip singing gigs the weekend and they loved it now type foresee also you've been together for just over a year. Now yes yeah Jaren House yeah and where do you see yourselves going from here that what what would be the next at the light to do continue on those as you've been going <hes> we'd. Let's get more gigs yeah. Maybe confer field <hes> place play before <hes> but it's not making music really it's just it's just that's just want what we want. Today just might more music and Caitlyn doing it. Just enjoy it so you know it's just fun when it stops being fund thunder anymore. He's what I like. When I talked to you guys I can see you back and forth even worse the songs going on you discussing about how you come together with your songs and you say oh I wrote lyrics? I heard this Choon one day and I was thinking I was getting him ahead. So then I passed over to care an era deliveries for dynamic between e both yeah yeah yeah that's that's a coup by doing because I thought music and are like an economics and stuff are that I like to in all the music sort of things and programming GIAMBI's I love it <hes> but a Foreign Roy and words quite difficult an whereas kit is really good at Ryan struggled more with the music music basic court sequences only gets her <hes> but although one of the more recent songs only time came from electro idea of mine on Garish Bandirma phone and sent him him to turn into something decent and took it from that and it turned into an epic similar wavelengths don't think so I've got similar taste in music really <hes> yeah. I think we buy like pop music highway but good pop music good pop music. They're quite diverse tastes. Yes we have here both secretly Aberfan yes yes we should you ever be secretly in our firm depends pens what you wearing kappa of never made no secret of it you both looking each of the going when when did we you get to Abba new single offering where he can here. Probably the piano actually yeah yeah yeah because there's a lot of good piano Abba songs particularly when it takes ill. I think there's lots of good piano not make a pianist. I saw me well okay yeah. I used three things so the new song we heard your first song disenchanted earlier on in the show I we're going to be hearing another. One of your fully produced singles that set ready to go is it yes just about yes yeah. He's taking awhile to get there really it's going to be double a terrible saying a madman Cernan M._p._3. My Vinyl collection at home. You know it's coming back but we fought on no expensive to get vinyl. Yes is less. You're doing a big massive Osler but yeah yeah it's going to be a AA side single with disenchanted whether it's completely different songs and before it's a good contrast between the two very ones fast puppy number the ovens morphs over light back eh but this one's a bit more poppy with a dark heart less take a listen. This is cruel symmetry by type full to you're listening to Siren Radio Siren radio weather music. You love lives six as we see uh-huh aw uh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh breath aw <music> uh-huh uh-huh doc type forty cruel symmetry going to be available everywhere soon pretty much now guys before you go. I just WANNA give you one less chance to serve Telev- room where the can find out more about you wear your music will be able to be found and and give any soft showers. Thanks to anyone that you'd I'd like okay. Well basically <hes> we got facebook page as has everyone will you can look on there and that's where the single going I but it'd be at the platforms like soundcloud and other things that the bank stop appropriate relationship when it's released were thing on facebook can go from there really yeah and it becomes the Geeks you get free copy. Yes we all giving them away. Gigs wise fifteenth of June. We're at the legionnaires. Legion has been sleaford twenty nine twenty nine. We're at the new in Boston one thousand nine hundred October. We are at the Belgium bottling SLEAFORD. Although I'm sure there will be more inbetween. Keep Your Eyes Open on the facebook page. We have another one actually booked in in September number in in Sheffield. Oh yes we have yeah yeah remember. The date loft of my head has right. Yes bit further afield isn't it at this point. We should say thank you to andy tighter as well of gloss onion doing some guitar work on those two songs. Yes thank you very much. It's hours to Mesa. He did the Solos. He's probably a bit much much better. People Plaza well cates Gary E._S._P._N.. Ansley fantastic having you come into the studio again for yourself kids this evening and Gary to meet for the first time forty going strong strong get along to one of the gigs over in Sleaford Oh Boston before ahead of in September. Yes good luck with that. Thank you very much. Yes thank you very much once again. For coming in at search late not enjoyed it. I was thanks a lot so you can find out more about type forty on their facebook page to search for Type Volta yet. I think I mean if you just go and Google search type for a band. I always helpful is it. That's why I know there's no other bombs called talk and if you get siren radios facebook page we were live streaming one of their songs things earlier on in the in the show so you can find out more there with links that page and all that good stuff. Thank you very much guys thank you. You're listening to siren radio. My Name's Valentine and it's just coming up to eleven o'clock but before I send you to the sky. New Center got a couple of songs to take that this next one is by Thomas Lock who was supposed to be here this evening birthdays away with illness illness. We wish Tom all the best case and Gary Very happy that you can make this evening but now that we should get better. Yes so get-well-soon Tom and have you back in the studio in a couple of weeks time this is hey goes everything. I'll be back after the news at eleven o'clock new Siren Radio seven point three and there's spa moving on a C. gain you loan that I I beg you to stay this man. He was wrong <music> and so I I did side Dad that that if we move forward then remove today and <music> now <music> and <music> God uh <music> uh-huh uh-huh Eh one eh learn that this is Simon Radio One oh seven point three seven point three online mobile. This is Byron Radio. Lincoln Siren Radio Siren Radio earns proud <music>. You're listening siren radio. It's just gone eleven o'clock on your Monday evening stem to sit back relax at feels like <music> to do that with the fantastic frankie goes to Hollywood. I'm the power of love bad bad scary darkness and love so so your awesome Maso on songs so soul May. <music> I'll check from hello from your Don. Chimps down around with on SPA. Dan Aw uh-huh take this time there we go <music> <music> <music> <music> uh-huh <music> the power of loved Frankie goes to Hollywood. You're listening to siren radio and how was ferrick track to kickoff the second hour eventually. She'll it seven minutes past eleven on your Monday evening. Were sitting back relaxing Chilin outs and celebrating the family Monday is almost over and choose day is very much coach on its way hope you having a lovely day however you've been spending it. I got an early coal back into work. I wasn't gonNA be back in from a holiday until Wednesday afternoon but <hes> yeah the early the early shift today which was he was all right just just a little bit multi than expected to be birth like I say it's been a wonderful show so far with <hes> type forty kit it and Gary live in the studio plane. <hes> two sons live and two of the original tracks which are going to be released in the next few weeks and months ahead A. I play here on Tom Sirena radio but now it's that time of the show where I put my feet up and just look around and go. There's nobody else around so I can just play what I want. I can say what I want. I can relax like all of you at home. Were headed up to midnight and of course some really Nice tunesfeed day and a couple of Lewitt's story that I can netter on about but don't next. We're going for a song that has been top of the U._K.. Singles charts now for four or five weeks. I believe I remember playing on the show I just before it reached that number one spot and it's it's still there. I told you all it stick up there. It is Mr Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber with I don't care you're listening to siren radio. We'll take up to make nights at a party and I don't ever wear served as even take my hand finish measuring Seychelle we did. I I think got so much to say I feel like did the back in in the back we party we don't want to it was rather kissing. These people love around but what kind of crazy don't mind a better life that I don't think we say the things that we use it. Stay Mayfield. Maybe the best and thus the best like nobody but the run you know buddy buddy thing. I don't like nobody buddy you the okay maybe the best nope I don't care at share in an Justin Bieber only a couple more weeks until we see the full fifteen track album. I'm from Ed Sheeran later this month which is all about collaborations which is going to be really interesting indeed. I'm going to start folks in. What's what music playing and just talking to you guys because I'm I'm scrolling through my twitter feed fade and I'm realizing if ever I want this to be an escapism the show to be an escapism? It's probably this week and tonight's some things happening today. Some attend person has a very tend orange person has visited an island and love island has started on ITV's tonight didn't quite goes. Well thought that joke. I never mind yeah. The big story of course has been. That's the Donald Trump. The president of the United States is over in the U._K.. On a step visit people reacting in very different ways I would not like to comment of course boasts a great thing that's going around online to the minute which has just taken everyone under a storm is the fact that Camilla Camilla actually <music> her title Her Royal Highness the Prince she's not a princess. That's very very clear. I'm not sure but Camilla you all know I'm talking about. You know we're not talking about love island last year she it has winked at a camera the press whilst walking behind trump and Chelsea today everyone has just been saying while there's people asking for it to get a metal which is probably a little bit over the top but just met me gay Golan yeah that's chest Camilla Parker Bowles. That's that's how I should have referred to apologies. If if you are interested going going scroll through your twitter feed them show we won't be able to escape it for the next couple of days but at least for the next two hours at least for that time or and forty five minutes that we have left at least I'm going to try my best. You're listening to an MM chill here on Simon Radio and the next song that I'm GonNa play for you is by an artist which I'm a big fan of and therefore I'm GonNa play music. It's one of the great things about twiddling upset. So you get to choose the songs. It's her brand new single which was released earlier this week. It's up some quite good coverage S._O._B.. This is the thing I've been fulling this. They sell taste on twitter and facebook and all of that and Youtube for many many years and yet it was fire the B._B._C. News websites and then newsbeat pige that I realized that her new single was out so that can only be a positive sign. I guess this is dodie clock with guiltless and a haven't listened to this yes. I thought I'm going to wait until we're live on air to listen along with you. There is a wall in my life bill by you open the door. The kids shouldn't walks bottom on just always getting angry at the way the two ignorant trauma in one afternoon you could to advocate and now I'm the one who con the dose connectic less. They carry the attitude favor. No one should of hope so I built up bit tired. Now you scanning angrier toy politician will end up to know who call don't see genetic <music> <music> and the two please stichting guiltless by dirty Clark brand new single available all streaming platforms right now. I really enjoyed enjoyed that one like I said before it kicked off. I'd known actually listen to it before before I played here because I thought you know well. I'll get my real reaction and <hes> I mean he's not that impressive because I'm very tired but I absolutely love that song and I think for in really well with all her prior tracks and hopefully hopefully at least in my case. I'm really hoping that there's a new album on the way so that is dodie clock with a new track guiltless. How you spending your week ahead then I'll be heading back to work? Keep the conversation going on twitter and Siren F. M. Year for anyone who was listening last week. You'll her that I was awful last week. I was Sir really happy about that factors well. I got to sit back relax and chill in my own my own way. I guess I'm one thing that I did do was a took trip down to London. One day got cheap train ticket and thought you know what let's see. Let's see what day I can have down there before golf and one of the things I've always really loved about going down the is going to some well on covent garden or even less square and seeing the buskers <hes> because they're absolutely incredible I mean Lincoln has a thriving whisking seen butts even down there. It's it's so so good and I sat there for a good hour and a half watching a couple of buskers towards the end of the day before Oros waiting for my train and I just like with the real perfect end of the day and there was this one busker that I've spoke to after his name was terry sinclar and eventually goes album which I haven't got with me today so I can't play for you <hes> books I did get to listen to his whole set for like four or five minutes or so and I just relaxing some of the selling choices he had were fantastic and this is one of them a song. I've not heard before and absolutely fallen in love since so I'm going to play for you now. This is George Hamilton with the correct title in a way streets of London. You're you're listening to Siren Radio Twenty one minutes past eleven on Monday evening and we'll take to midnights have you seen Leo and the was down marking kicking the pay with his wall known choose van is is you see no Brian and loosely at it. Is yesterday's paper telling you stood as new. Have you seen the girl while the streets of London Dirt Dinner Hair panicles. She's not dying talking. She just gives Rydell Carey in her home into K.. How can you tell me Eh save the you sun dome? Shy let the Tae get by the hand Legia Thue the streets of mind house shoe to make you change your mind in the All Night Cafe St. Eleven same old man sitting there own isil looking at the world over the role of his Tika each t last news one Andy Wonders home alone. Have you seen the outside. Seaman's mission memory leave fighting with the battle ribbon that he read your city snow cries so little ditty one mole forgotten two dozen Kay. How can you tell me you're saving you? ooh Son don't take by the hand Egypt who the streets thumbed. I'll show you something make you change your mind. I'll show some I hope will change your mind. Chill Hamilton Alton streets of London. You're listening to siren radio. Were almost halfway through the second hour. It's creeping ever so closer to that midnight hour and looking outside I mean it's absolutely pitch black now. <hes> which has been really strange case because we all get into some amounts now and have you found that he's into like half eight on the night before the sun is even set like I used to leave my my day job in like at like seven seven o'clock at night and it won't be pitch black from like half five six o'clock during those winter months but now we are you know it's getting to the Summer Ladies and gentlemen it is the third of June the the year is creeping away with us and if it goes any faster than I'll be I'll be well gone from Lincoln soon. It seems but no that was great song from George Hamilton streets of London and we're gonNA keep things going. We are sitting back relaxing gene chilling out celebrating the fact that's your Monday is almost over and Tuesday is on its way this next song has been requested by Yes for Lincoln. She has some Louis Cataldi so to one for music latest latest album which I can never remember the tone twister of an album name a look up during this but the song is called head space you due to gets hit absorb the grew the voice good food so show <music> see the the <hes> <music> is Sir <music> smart boards. Oh sure you more more than the what I'm sure aw aw Lou anymore <music> <music> <music> fool me so insert they thought coot ensue you all bits you you said you me head space by Louis Cataldi from his latest album divinely mainly uninspired to a hellish extent member of the top of my head and I'm so happy about it but you have no proof because I'm talking head on the radio you're listening to siren radio and loose Capelle. The may be the one of the biggest stars in the U._K.. Right now <hes> but there is someone who has become had worldwide claim since his America's got talent audition went viral last last weekend for those who maybe haven't heard about this haven't seen the video themselves cody. Lee is a man from <hes>. I'm trying to remember where in America South Carolina. mm-hmm and he is twenty two years old and he is blind and has autism and here is not let this become a factor in stopping him living his dream though because for anyone who has seen the video it's it's absolutely incredible he went onto america's talent last weekend and performed a cover of the song asong for you on blinds on stage on the piano and singing thing and there's no way to describe exactly how it how it happened i remember watching in wow and actually having goosebumps just flicking through my face but one dan thought i saw this video and i was just listen to like five seconds i listened to the entire five minutes of video because just the storage room in and then the music is self if you haven't had chance to check it out this america's talent audition than i urge you all to do so oh i believe that america's telling is added to netflix every week every saturday so <hes> might be worth checking out on their if you've got a subscription to that or you can find out about kurdi lay on youtube and facebook is all over the place if you search for america's got talent audition it will probably pop up the reason actually any kodaly music that's been released so far he's not released anything thing <hes> big over the last couple years or anything that i can download them play for you and by play for you now both i have found the original to the song that's he did a wonderful cover of so <hes> i thought hey you know until we can get cody lee we can at least <hes> celebrate how good song actually is so this is donny hathaway with a song for you you're listening to siren radio or crepe deep in episode closer to that midnight hour muslims kinda valentine and it'd be with you for the next twenty five minutes also been so minute place as and life and a lot of saw some my live with ten thousand people watching will now i'm seeing in the soul to <music> your image of me what i moved to be treated you darling <music> doesn't know one more important to catch you see through alone alone now i'm saying in the song to utah it came out in front i was hard listen to the man uh-huh <music> look at those face time ooh and when my life is remember when yeah we were alone now in this song you <music> uh-huh i was sitting in this we were our saying in this uh we were our saying in <music> sagan's donny hathaway way a song for you and we go from talking about an excellent cover of song the on america's got talent this week to the final of britain's got talent which ed on sunday night last night to eight point two million people across the country series of britain's called tunnel i think has been a really good one i think the one thing that is really sean about this series more than any other in recent memory is that it has a great sense of it has a great sense of diversity in its talent i was trying to find the word of diversity because i've run those was ten years ago diversity with a wins the thing that i love that is that it's not just been all singers all dance groups which did play it for many years there's been a lot of magicians for example this off the back of people bridget jones who really well winning briscoe talent a couple of years ago and then we had we had a lot magicians they a lot of new danger acts which is never got the final apprentice called talent he did absolutely fantastic i really liked chevron who was from wig failed nitsa my neck of the woods and she she reminded me a lot of victoria korea would that soft style victoria ward meets peter k. meets you know just just that solve northern musical style i should say she did absolutely fantastic in the final with a song about out her mother and it's called if he's not one thing it's your mother which i thought was really really clever and not relatable at all if my mom as listening and i i do think that the the right person did win and that was calling thackery just mentioned about singers being a big part the show but we haven't had a winner b. singer for for quite a few years now in fact but calling bruce something completely different he brought that nostalgia factor and he brought the the factory that patriotism which other time where we you know we probably do you need it and you know coming together and just remembering about they stay the the grit things that the country has done in the past and <hes> to see someone like him and like the new stories of come out today amount on i._r._a. renews throughout the day here on siren he talks about how he's going to be donating parts of his children fifty thousand pound wayne to the royal chelsea hospital hospice obviously a charity say his home which i think is absolutely fantastic he wants to get their new the new projects off the ground in his name which you know it's an absolutely lovely thing for him to do and he's going to help grandkids get onto the property ladder so granddad if you listen i'm sending over the application forms for next year's britain's got talent thing you might being shot let's carry on with the show so we'd colin thackery in the final and last night on d._g._t. anyone with the cover of this song and he's been conducted this version by the royal philharmonic orchestra chris cochran and it's aspects have love love changes everything and absolutely beautiful song and then yeah it was a perfect fit to let's take a listen congratulations to call him factory here we go luxury and everything and love changes every have you live <hes> can make the some or run seem love changes isn't everything no i am john level you and then your world and that will yes love breed you brings you listen ought to be go landing there's no love eh the royal philharmonic orchestra with aspects of love love changes everything you're listening to siren radio is quarter to midnight on monday evening we've almost five your monday don't worry you foresee moments of me blabbering on and then you can head to bed that's the law yukon choon out it's just not allowed <music> but thank you everyone who has join me for the last hour and forty five minutes or any point you've tuned in throughout that so we have the fantastic type forty in the studio for the first hour kit and gary <hes> performing some of that tracks live in the studio and we go to debut two of that upcoming new singles live on the show as well cruel symmetry and disenchanted and you'll be able to hear the more throughout throughout the week on siren radio as they head into our regular rotation from next monday coming up next monday as well but another fantastic live local artist which will talking more about after this next song reveal who it is well if you haven't been following siren on facebook that is <hes> after this next song which is from the soundtrack of film that i saw over the weekend and maybe it was it was early last week sorry and the film was called book completely nearly forgot what the film was called book smart and honestly i'm not sure sure how to describe it all say is that it was one of the best the funniest and thought provoking films the i have watched ain will all gear since since i got my limitless card to go watch as many films as i won't listen to this is honestly one of the best films i've seen this year i really enjoyed it and i said that you should all check it out when you get chance this week i believe it's only on for a few days here in lincoln over the across the pond at the odeon make sure that you go check it out if you can so the song that i've picked from soundtrack is cold faraway look by yola stay tuned to siren radio twelve minutes guys what creeping closer to that midnights our k. <music> through them down on the flow wish to the ending the paper that you <music> nobody moves the way he <music> walking round the grocery store and when you were king day to your dream <music> <music> faraway look by yellow from the movie soundtrack to book small in cinemas now it's nine minutes too old to eleven o'clock to midnight kinda you're getting tired today one of the things that i'm really struggling with father some areas but we've got the four or five months of the that kelly is out of action because my hay fever is really starting to pick her up just gives me really bad headaches so if anyone anyone out there has any remedies for this please do get into let me know thank you very much for listening in touch with me on twitter at sky j. valentine the station at siren f._m. orem facebook siren radio one seven three can find me across all social media platforms at kai j. valentine and next week we're gonna be back here and i have a fantastic nick only guests in the studio with me it's another returning guest to one of our very first episodes like kit today coming back after this is episode seventy and he was on episode two so sixty eight episodes later we've got luc todd who are believed was like episode six or seven some really excited to get luke back in the studio after like nearly fifty months away find out what he's been up to play some music live in the studio that's next week from ten o'clock ican also find me throughout the week on siren radio three till five p._m. on tuesday and thursday with the local music spotlight where we put the spotlight spotlight on lincoln's local music scene thank you very much for listening it's time for me to say good nights and before we go though i've got one finalists song for you and it's celebrating celebrating the fact that said they spend the sewn in particular when gold on this day all the way back in nineteen eighty five but this is the royal philharmonic orchestras take on the classic the iconic bohemian rhapsody mm-hmm <music> <music> <music> <music> yeah uh-huh uh-huh <music> <music> <music> helium ramp city queen the royal philharmonic orchestra we've made it you have survived your monday and tuesday is on sway my name's <unk> valentine tonight's coupla s and i'll see you all right back here next week 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REShow: Guest Host Mike Heller. Adam Hoge. Hour 3 (08-13-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Guest Host Mike Heller. Adam Hoge. Hour 3 (08-13-19)

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D. twenty-five here it comes again lunch will be the same old same old or are you ready to take a vacation from the ordinary with the new jamaican jerk turkey sub at firehouse subs freshly sliced smoked turkey breast crave ably sweet mustard sauce and a hint of caribbean seasoning just five fifty five remedium save time order the new jamaican jerk turkey sub on the firehouse subs app firehouse subs enjoy more subs ups save more lives to speak locations limited time only plus tax prices may vary for delivery sitting in for ridge mike heller. You're all i think of when i hear the intro every time and john maus mouths it every time in concert with rich eisen is podcasts casts because we didn't have any podcasts when i was in high school. He says it in a way that you have to do a a little double. Take it. It's it's genius right. She pay attention to that and we listened for it. Every time you can listen to us on our podcasts. I'm all right john audience. You're right. I'm trying to think of how to work in rebound like how many rebounds do that every once in a so. I stay emojis the wrong way right moges. I say emojis <hes> but the podcasts is like saying when you went to high a school i school and people say <hes> because we're more familiar people say green bay the wrong way because the emphasis this is on green the green bay packers green. They're going to go you will go to green bay. I'm going to go to green bay. Am i saying that right. Green bay the green bay packers research. Yeah you'll hear some of the some people talk about it and refer to it as green bay. That's backwards lewd say tampa bay and i think the big it's the emphasis anyways. I don't know why i digress but it was all about rich podcasts so every time time every single time and and listen you can't see us. It's radio but every time that intro plays john mouths in concert when rich says podcasts rests casts. I don't know if you've noticed that you do that but you do that. Do i didn't even know i did that. You're doing it. Well commanded the third hour of the rich eisen show riches away this week hope. He's not regretting it. My name is mike. Keller guest hosted many many times on the radio side of the rich eisen show john audience. Has this join me for a lot of those johnson with me today and tomorrow as well as yesterday this week. I'll be with you all week long and we're covering some ground today so today. You're right handed correct. I mean on the radio. You're right handed. Yes this john yep yep today's national lefthanders day so you know i think of great left-handers we did this on quarterbacks talking about the n._f._l.'s greatest. All time left handed quarterbacks and you forget some some gyms. Zoran is a guy that we tend to forget seattle's gyms orne left-hander okay. Why did you look funny at me well because okay that's fine so he wouldn't have made the final cut right off the good n._f._l. Career so you would think of boomer assize and for for sure super yeah kenny stabler yup the snake steve young. That's the one michael vick in in listen in a short window took in their season. Michael vick wins this if it was just on which which of these lefties had a better single season i think vick was changed the way the game played he was in a single gle season. I would give a strong consideration. Michael vick steve young would be again. We put these lefties on a playground and you've picked the the left handed quarterback you want. I'm going to pick steve young. I thought he had the best combination of the things that you need. A great feat yet great presence could run away from pressure could make things happen on the run. If you didn't stop him. Once he moved the pocket he could throw but if you didn't stop him he he beat you with his feet. Here's where i'm alleged alexa start. He was the best here's where i'm a little confused because i agree with you and i think steve young best lefty on national left-handed day all right but you talk about michael obits. It's you're you're not saying anything that isn't true about the impact he had and how great he was for short stretch but if it's national lefties day ah what's the proper term left-hand day. I don't know what the proper national day. The hashtag is but if that's true then why wouldn't we be talking about his throwing like why would you even bring up his legs. I understand that's part of his overall quarterback resume but on this national lefthanders day. Why do you talk about his legs. It should be about his arm and with his arm he doesn't you know he's not even cloister. Voice left handed throwing quarterback but the quarterback position is in just with what you have conjunction with lefty correct so he runs left-footed. Look at that okay. Now we have some video. There are no lefties today right. I mean the n._f._l.'s devoid of sigourney significant left handed quarterbacks. I'm probably missing somebody but i i can't think of a single starting left handed quarterback in the n._f._l. Today and that sets me up for somebody. You're setting yourself up for a dumb moment and learnt you. What about that guy. I can't think of them right exactly okay so this is this is from n._f._l. Dot com. There's a word all the left handed quarterback in today's n._f._l. Now this is a year ago today so the word is extinct exactly lee zero professional passes left-handed according to n._f._l. Stats and research one year ago today. Why is that that is weird. What happened to the lefty and football. I think we just hit onto something we need to do. A deep dive no left-handers hard catch. The left-handed thrown football spins in the opposite. What's the direction. Players can't get feel for it. That's not the reason that's a joke so anyway so it's national lefthanders day. If you left handed somebody they should be buying you lunch or dinner or drinks john's right handed. I'm right handed. I don't have any lefties in studio so i'm not i'm not taking care any any other other left-handers. We also posted this twitter poll question because it's kind of listen. This is a fair way to look at right. Now on the sporting calendar golf golf has won more significant event in its year. It's the president's cup it's in december. Okay now with all due respect given to to the fedex playoffs but that's it's. It's a secondary story college. Football takes the forefront in two weeks two weeks from now two weeks from thursday. You'll get a start two weeks from this weekend. You get the college football star. It's still on the horizon the n._f._l. Is you've got three exhibition weeks yet before you get a game but the n._f._l. Still steals the thunder major league baseball. All forty five ish games left in their season. The conversation really is as september conversation. It's market driven. If you're a fan of have a team that's in the hunt cleveland minnesota kind of taken off on what's going on with the indians and the twins in the a._l. Central depending on where you are if you're the yankees yankees. You're just waiting if you're houston you're just waiting. If you're the dodger you're just waiting philadelphia. The new york mets the milwaukee brewers saint louis cardinals chicago cubs. There's a lot left in the air but forty five days of forty-five game days yet to go there. This is still an n._f._l. Centric rick conversation. That's where august goes to and that's where we are. We're in the middle of august and the conversation is all about what's going to what happened in the n._f._l. What's happening in contracts with dallas. What's happening with the antonio. Brown hard knocks with the oakland raiders. That's the conversation superstation. That's where we sent her. That's the gathering the great gathering place. John is the national football league in the month of august even though we're not playing games yet yeah starts to ramp up up is obviously the season gets closer and closer and then all those other sports even though the races thank you mentioned a major league baseball once september with the calendar flips it suits sued for hardcore football right and those races take second in a back seat to to the national football league by the way mike alabama quarterback to who are is talking. Yes is going to be lefthanded quarterback in the n._f._l. He is a lieutenant quarterback quarterback now. My point is is going to be in the n._f._l. And he's going to be a lefty his. He is a lefty so that's it's. It's on the horizon right. There's at least one yeah if you could implore have you could employ the n._h._l. Draft rules into the n._f._l. Would you you have drafted trevor lawrence a year ago overall number one even though you wouldn't bring him up to play for you for two more years there now now the n._h._l. You can draft the player of draftable age and you can bring them right to the n._h._l. But many times they draft these players and let them play high juniors or or college hockey for a year or two. I talked about that with michael mckean in our number. Two sports illustrated's sports legal analysts michael mccann and asked asked about the n._h._l. Way of working the draft and if it could work in the n._b._a. Which a couple of years is going to go back to drafting high school players but i think the a win win would be if you could draft the player of zayn williams <hes> level a year ago if you're gonna drafted him and still had i'm going to do but you own his draft rights until he comes out of school if you could do that would you give up the year that he's not playing for you to draft trevor lawrence clemson's quarterback now <hes> yeah. I think some teams absolutely you would and here's why you would take him now. I don't know if trevor lawrence would like this and that maybe why you wouldn't enter the n._f._l. Drought but the thing that these quarterbacks if that ever became a reality would have to consider is that they may be drafted later than they'd want to right so of trevor lawrence is somebody could take a flyer on him and i don't even know where he would project album l. Put this for example. A team could take a quarterback in the second third fourth fifth round or whatever and take a chance on that guy as opposed to if he came out later and was a top opt-in guy so let's say you can't draft him as a finishing freshman but you can draft him after his second year which is a year before he can go to the n._f._l. So next april in the n._f._l. Draft would you draft trevor lawrence number one knowing that he can't play for you for a full year. He's got one more year of college football and the risk of being injured in college football i just i think the i love how the n._h._l. H. l. does their work from the draft where they can draft hold their rights to ace supremely talented player and have him play in and develop collegiately for another year sometimes two it would be different like college <hes> athletics because if you're into college hockey like you said this is nothing new to you at all but it would be different. Don't you think for fans to get used to oh yeah. He's going to go to the you know to the timber wolves or yeah this guy yeah. He's already been drafted by the chiefs. It's kind of it would be a weird atmosphere atmosphere and i dunno. I is are all sports created equal in that sense like college hockey or all-sports created equal. What is stopping a a sport to do that but yeah i don't. I don't know the i don't know the answer. I think that there's a fear with the n._c._a._a. Of having ping agents on campus and big money big money draft choices you know if you draft a guy like trevor lawrence and he still had to be in college for another year number one draft money so you have access to it. Does he not have access to it. Is it put in trust. Do they not negotiate that until a year later. I mean how do all those things work and then does especially in an injury riddled league. If you draft trevor lawrence these are all super hypotheticals right by the way killing illinois pathetic game here but if you did that and trevor lawrence was your number one overall selection next april in the draft. You're you're you're scared. Every time takes a snap every game. He plays because you're not benefiting from his play and yet he's at risk. That's a good point. That's a good point in a league like you said that you mentioned. It's an injury riddled would would a franchise and i guess my answer to that. Original question is probably no because then you do take that risk that that guy that you spent that draft pick on that's not gonna play for you for another year gets injured and has a major injury and now you're even the farm much behind although for the most part i mean if you tear a._c._l. You probably gonna keep playing. I got to go the road to recovery and a team is so you're going to place is going to be delayed baggage yeah to it didn't have the a._c._l. In particular but their injury concerns about to talk of iowa just are in trevor lawrence's you know he's been clean but he's played one year college football and as a true freshman anyways anyways. I think it's a interesting scenario to play out. It's not going to play out in all likelihood in any of our other sports. It only happens in hockey but i actually think of all the things a love hockey a love the game i think spectacular game but the n._h._l. Has screwed up a lot over a lot a lot of years and i look at the national hockey league and the one thing that they absolutely get right well two things i think their playoff on ice performances ridiculous but i also think the draft policy although it's hard to understand the way they work the draft situations and then have drafted players still play collegiately really i think it's i think it's fantastic. I think from a player development standpoint. It's fantastic all right so we have a twitter poll working at the rich eisen show today day the twitter poll rather simple if you could rank the or pick the best of the under twenty i five quarterbacks entering the n._f._l. Season and i took patrick mahomes off the board baker mayfield jared goff deshaun watson mitchell trubisky those the ford we listed sam. Darnold fans got angry with us right now. The vote is heavy. Baker mayfield next heavy deshaun watson and jared goff and mitchell trubisky collectively getting twenty one percent of the vote so just one in five believes either just one in ten on jared goff an eight percent. One of the vote should trubisky so it's a mayfield watson horse race yeah and i think that's probably the way it should be. Although there's a good point that if you just look look statistically and and not career stats goff is had a kind of a head start over some of those other guys if you just look at last season alone goff at the best numbers of any of those guys is and yet we believe more strongly into shawn watson and baker mayfield and i get it from the field perspective the way he was able to come into that team last year and do what he did head but it is it is kind of weird that jared goff is is so far behind in that we're gonna take a little bit of a deeper br dive into mitchell trubisky and the chicago bears one of the teams that many believe is poised or on the doorstep of being an n._f._c. elite will talk with adam hoge w._g._n. Radio he will take a deep dive on the bears cuisine on some of the topics that we've talked about from from those under twenty five quarterbacks as well. We'll do that adam hoge w._g._n. Radio will join us talking about the chicago bears. 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Will it be the same old old same old or are you ready to take vacation from the ordinary with the new jamaican jerk turkey sub at firehouse ups freshly sliced smoked turkey breast crave gravely sweet mustard sauce and a hint of caribbean seasoning just five fifty five remedium save time order the new jamaican jerk turkey sub on the firehouse subs app firehouse how subs enjoy more subs saved more lives participating locations limited time only plus tax prices may vary for delivery continuing on the rich eisen show on this tuesday inching closer to thursday night exhibition games in the national football league week to do which for many n._f._l. Markets will be your first view of a starting quarterback. Your starting quarterback likely going to make <hes> about well if the debut for the lead players because in week one of the exhibition season many are not dressed for their games but this this week they will be in weeks two and three and and we'll see how place we ran this twitter poll question today on the tyson show and that will bring me into my next guest other than patrick mahomes. Who's the best under twenty five quarterback entering the two thousand nine hundred nine season well to be clear. Mitchell trubisky ski will turn twenty five on august the twentieth one week from today. We bring in at and he's on the list. We bring in adam hoge w._g._n. Radio covers sukagaw bears adam joining us on the rich eisen. Show is it fair to list. Trubisky is a top for under twenty five quarterback in the league right now. If i take take mahomes off the list. Oh i think so yeah i mean he's i think he's certainly a category of guys still has lots of crew <hes> but i you know he he's gotta be right there because you know i for whatever reason he i think because he was the first of those three quarterbacks in that draft ago <hes> between two shawn watson and patrick mahomes to gets the the most criticism that tends it. Just sorta happened <hes> especially when a guy gets <hes>. Let's say overdrafted compared to what most people think right isn't that what's happening with daniel jones right now this year with a giant to <hes> so he's getting a lot of criticism. He's got a spotlight on them because of that especially because the bears i traded up for him to get him and get all that i live with it every day covering with his team the everybody's living and dying on every single pass this guy throws training camp but but <hes> there's no question the towns there and he's in a good position with matt nagy as often i. I would think that that's right where he should be in that conversation. What does he need to do. <unk> this year. What what kind of statistical outlook wins anything. What does he need to do to take that next that next jump yeah keeping twenty four and twelve a year ago and his fourteen fourteen twenty four touchdowns twelve seconds thirty two hundred yards yeah. I think <hes> to me i. This is the way i like to always talk about quarterbacks <hes> are are you quitting with a guy or because of a guy right. I think there's a huge difference in that in the n._f._l. There's a lot of guys who are <hes> good the quarterbacks or the starting in the n._f._l. That has made a ton of money that are still guys that you win with those very few guys that go to that next level that you're winning because of like patrick mahomes they that cheats defense wasn't that great last year and it was they they certainly weren't winning because of the defense they are winning because of what they were doing on offense for the bears it was the opposite they had the best defense in the league and that defense was scored a lot of points to so mitch had a great record last year and i think that it's also fair to give him some credit that he didn't cost them games but is he going to become one of these guys this year that let's say the bears defense and i don't necessarily think it's gonna happen happened. Let's take a step back a little bit because they have a new coordinator. Vic fangio's mcdonald's now taking over they take a couple of steps back here and there <hes> can can mitch overcome that and win and here's the thing he actually did that in the playoff game but there was a double kick that everyone one saw that didn't go in what people kind of forget that they're sorry yeah but that's what the i honestly believe narrative at least been slightly different that game had gone if that kick it gone in because what people forget for really the first time all year the bears defense crumbled at at the end of the game and gave up they allow nick foles go straight down the field when knowing in that building thought it was going to happen because that defense has been so good and score the go ahead ahead touchdown and mitch came right back in a huge moment and through two or three passes right down the field and got him and feel that whatever forgets let's see. That's what i'm now one game but that's what i'm talking about. Mitch trubisky become that guy off in the not the season and if he does that he's he's going to elevate the conversation about them and if not that he's gonna keep getting kind of dash or criticism and he continues to get all right so you mentioned the double adam so oh who's going to be the kicker for the bears twenty nineteen well. I'm not sure it's going to be other these guys on the team right now. <hes> the bears ariza elliott fry who got out of the af <hes> who was working for northwestern mutual before he got a phone call from steve spurrier to come join the orlando apollo's <hes> in that earned a chance when the bears and then they've eddie pineyro who was in raiders camp last last year <hes> then got hurt and the bears traded a conditional seventh round pick forum and here's the thing this competition right now and i've never covered taking competition like this. I hope i never have to get <hes>. It's been neck and neck but neither one of the guys is really taking. Oh you know what i mean and the other night at soldier field the bears first preseason game and finally came down on the if the game can you make. I'm sitting on the press box going. I don't really have confidence that the ball's going to go through the upright so i have to imagine that's how ryan pays the bears general manager and matt nagy coach are thinking right right now too and li- i believe they were the conversation for cari vic who ended up going to the vikings and the trade for the ravens. I imagine they're going to continue to look look at possible options out there right now to go. It wouldn't surprise me as the bears kicker is not on the roster yet. We're visiting with adam hoge w._g._n. Radio in chicago covers the bears the biggest loss in the off season. You mentioned mentioned it earlier. How significant is it to lose vic fangio now. The head coach of the denver broncos does chuck pagano is a well established defensive minded coach but fangio was. I mean man. They were good <hes>. How big is that loss. Yeah i i actually taught before. We got a training camp that were in by. We i mean you know kinda. The meter those of us covering the team sorta underrating <hes> the loss of fangio <hes> which mainly because i i mean i watched that guy build up that defence you know steadily ryan pace added talent but fangio is building from the ground up at turning guys like keen hicks <hes> improve prince amukamara or a who are you know sorta journeyman but still young enough to now they joined fangio's system and they become really good players especially akiem hicks. <hes> <hes> was at a different level last year so i i'm coming to training kansas using are kinda underrated. It's a little bit too much. There's gotta be some kind of step back right <hes> <hes> it's just natural when you lose a coordinator and it's okay just training camp. It's not a regular season game but it's been the complete opposite. He's guys are still humming. Woman <hes> the camaraderie on the defense the chemistry on that defense especially in the secondary guys like eddie jackson kyle fuller <hes>. It's been impressive to watch every every single day and i i'm more now leaning towards. I think they're gonna come out week. Wanna be just as tough as they were last <hes> mainly because because you got that guy fifty two out there khalil mack who is just reckon plays and practice like he's almost hindering practice. He's so good <hes> <hes> like you have to take them off the field just to be able to run place sometime because he's just not a fair match up <hes> when he's lining up against your offensive line as long as that guy on the planet that kind of level i think is best defense is going to be pretty darn good again this year. I'm glad you brought up clear mac because when you start to look at that trade trade and i know we're just we're very early into the career of khalil. Mack is a chicago bear but i got to think that that's gotta go down as one of the trades of all time. Do you guys realize the bears are getting a second round. Pick for the raiders back this year. I still that at the time of the trade it seemed like such a no brainer but then i kept looking at it. I'm like i still can't believe the bears managed to get a second round. Pick out of this to you. Look at it and obviously i think the raiders underestimated how good the bill is. We're gonna be last year. <hes> it turns into what the twenty fifth overall pick that they got <hes> but i'm not saying this is going to happen but if the raiders there's continued to be bad this year and the bears end up going to the super bowl or winning super bowl like there's gonna there. It's possible that pick is only separated by one or two slot in the draft this year <hes> with them basically swapping spots in and if that indeed happen <hes> the trade great for the raiders just continues look worse and worse and i don't know how justified oakland i'm sure they're trying <hes> but meanwhile he took a very good defense defense and turned it into a leaky talking about khalil mack just took it to a completely different level with the amount of takeaways that were forced and if they can continue that this year then you know the fares are gonna be right there at the top of the n._f._c. north of and i think they're buying taking it farther run in the class and they were able to do last year yeah the naysayers naysayers when they look at the bears because i think we've painted the picture of how they can be that team that is in position to be one of the elites in the the n._f._c. The naysayers would view the personnel and say why are they better this year trubisky as part of that equation because he can get better but as far far as newcomers to the equation naysayers would say they're not better than the team that left the field after the double doing in the playoffs. Yeah i think my i think that's what i'm struggling with when i hear that because <hes> at least struggling to understand that type of criticism <hes> jordan howard was running back wasn't a great running back and he wasn't a great fit for this offense. I think that's what people are missing. I don't know i know how good david montgomery is going to be pretty good in the first preseason game and i know the bears come a lot but i can tell you as much better fit. He can run routes which the matt nagy wants to do out of the backfield and so i think that's an i think overall. What a back room they added. Mike davis to and tarik cohen still there. I think the backfield's heels better <hes> kyle long on the offensive lines as healthy as he's been in three years so i think the offensive line's all five starters are back and one one of those guys as a young kid and james daniel. That's going to be the second year so i think the offensive line should be better and then you know anthony. Miller is a type of wide receiver curve should take the next step in his development who i think's show last year's pretty talented and alan rob is the people forget was still coming off that tornadoes last year he got better her as the season went along and should only be better <hes> in in year two of being on the team so i think that's ho- people wanna look at who you lost it who gained right in free agency in the draft when they look at their preseason magazines and that's an easy way to do it. I think for this bears team seen a lot of improvement comes from within in just guys that are naturally sure that their age take the next step forward and also in this system which is complicated system that showed some promise last year take the next step forward matt nags offense so i realized that that for <hes> even sanford but also outsiders across the country. It's hard to put your stock in that but as i cover this team on a daily basis i see a lot of that and i really do think that all things being equal. Let's even say you're bisky doesn't even improve which i think there will be a little bit at least a little bit of proven even if he doesn't i do think the town around him is better and so overall. The offense should be at least slightly better. Let's let's finish with this and adam hoge w._g._n. Radio in chicago covers the bears joining joining us on the rich eisen show if the bears don't win the n._f._c. north who does that's a great question <hes> <hes> that i keep going back and forth between the vikings and the packers <hes> i think that's it's really hard to both naked nah i think i'll still side with the vikings <hes> and the reasoning being that i still think there's enough pieces there defensively and for whatever reason i think whether it's kevin's defence could be offensive offensive coordinator. I think that offense and i'm not a huge fan of kirk cousins and never have been but he's good enough. You hold on those guys you win with right because of <hes> but i think they can win enough games with him that they're the biggest threat to the bears. I don't know what it is about the packers. They still have the best quarterback in the league i do i do believe the series about i guess is not serious but he's got a lot to prove aaron rodgers that is and i think he'll do that. I still look at you know the numbers ars in the age and i just wonder okay. It's nice to say if he stays healthy for sixteen games. What are the chances. That's really going to happen <hes> yeah. That's what i think i struggle with with if the packers <hes> i could see them doing it but i just don't know that i believe that if that makes sense and i'm not i'm not a huge fan of throwing a bunch of money a problem <hes> of mainly because i witnessed the bears do that here in chicago and it was a disaster and i just still question if the packers are doing that a little bit too much right now to make up for some of the traffic after errors that were made three four five years ago. I'll give you an f._m. We'll leave this. I if green bay does take that that step is something that they will oil with new head coach and aaron rodgers the n._f._c. north could very well be the best division in football those three teams <hes> chicago minnesota green bay might comprise the tha best top three teams in division all of football. It'll be interesting to watch play adam. It's always good to visit with you. Thanks for spending a little time with us to mike and john adam hoge w._g._n. Radio joining us on the rich eisen show he covers the chicago bears you look i think there's great intrigue in in what's going to go on with the ravens steelers browns. I think there's great intrigue. What happens with those three teams. There is great intrigue league in what goes on in the n._f._c. north with the defending champion bears and the vikings and whether green bay makes a move back up into do that elite group or teams that that are vying for that opportunity <hes> but i i think that those are the best story lines in football as we enter the year are those conversations and i think minnesota chicago green bay can comprise. Maybe the best top top three teams in a division and all full so we'll we'll. We'll get to look at that not for three weeks but we'll get to look at that as it begins to take shape one more segment. I'm an yet to come alongside of john. Audience mike keller. You're listening to the rich eisen show. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting. This podcast certainly couldn't do this. Show without either of you. I wanted to remind you that you can support my sponsors by going to my show page at podcast one dot com clicking on the support this podcast button and there you'll see all of my wonderful sponsors. It helped make this show possible so thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting writing now back to the show stay tuned for sixty seconds of av news headlines right after this podcast one final segment here on the tuesday edition of the rich eisen show mike heller and john obvious guest hosting ibn all week as written away. John's going to do this another day tomorrow. <hes> give you a final poll results here in a moment other than patrick mahomes the best under twenty five quarterback entering the twenty nine thousand nine n._f._l. Season the winner will be e baker mayfield over shawn watson forty one percent to thirty eight percent followed then by jared goff all the way down thirteen percent of the vote i would i voted off by the way in this poll that i put together. Mitchell trubisky is fourth in that polling so we get to more well. We're talking about sixteen gene days from now. We wrap up the n._f._l. Exhibition season so i think that's a better way to look at it so we're sitting on twenty three days this to the start of the n._f._l. Season that is in the one hundredth year of the national football league you'll debut with the green bay packers and chicago bears two of the originals calls. They'll play soldier field on thursday nights september the fifth. That's when the n._f._l. Season will get underway and you know. All of us can't wait so you know what this turns into. It's august so it turns into list conversation. We're talking about left-handers. Today's national left-hander day so that list of the greatest is left handed quarterbacks of all time in the n._f._l. Boomer sizing kenny the snake stabler michael vick steve young. I would have voted steve young as the leader there. This is your almost wrapping up with list season john audience so you have another one that we can wrap up kind of with me because that's what august the first first three weeks of august are fours to wrap up a summer of lists. I've got two lists. One kind of a national baseball list one kind of a more local the n._f._l. List but i'll start with the national baseball list or just see this from baseball america about fifteen minutes go on twitter where they pull manager scouts and exacts as to the best pure hitters in in baseball now they listed them by by american and national league. Do you wanna take a guess as to who the number one pure hitter in both the a._l. and the n._l. Were jose altuve. Where's he is. He high on that list. I just see the top three here so he's bellinger cody. Bellinger would be the high on that list. No he's number two in the n._l. Well christian yelich says arrived on that list has any christian yelich voted by manager scouts inexact executives as the best pure hitter in the national league in the american league. It is mike trout of the angels sense. That wasn't it. They i also had best pitcher. Max shurer in the national league. Justin verlander in the american league also went by pests like different types of pitches best <unk> arm. I mean they got a pretty extensive list here. Baserunners power all those things appear hitter yellows in the n._l. Trout in the american league so there's a there's a list for you okay. We like lists. That's that's all part of the conversation and don't even go to that other list. No don't do it. What can i just give a quick just a little synopsis of it and we don't have to talk about it but there was a list best. It's the packers one hundredth anniversary right so the packers top one hundred players of all time by the milwaukee journal sentinel embark star was number eleven yeah. That's it's a it's a mistake. I know the the guys who compiled the list mother. Guys are a pardon me yeah. We love those guys absolutely but i hate when we take away from a quarterback that played in an era that they didn't throw the balls off and terry bradshaw was a victim of that bradshaw. Was you know he won four super bowls with the steelers but people remember pittsburgh for their defense and the running game with franko harrison rocky bleier liar and bradshaw doesn't get enough love for being a great postseason quarterback who had some of the most memorable throws and catches in n._f._l. Super bowl history lynn swann john stallworth well. There's a thrower on those bart. Starr wins some all of the n._f._l. Titles in the first two super bowls and super bowl m._v._p.'s but because you remember the packers four lombardi and that power sweep with kramer and thurston you remember ember jimmy taylor and paul horning. It takes away from star. I don't like that we do it. We do it across the n._f._l. We don't just it's not just done in a green green bay or chicago or longtime n._f._l. Franchises it's done everywhere we have a recency bias we look back when the game was played differently and we throw those players and their accomplishments away because they wouldn't stack up in today's game and i'm telling you great quarterbacks great point guards would bob cousy stack up in today's n._b._a. Well athletically. Maybe not but bob cousy would've adapted john havilcek would have adapted the great players from the fifties and sixties growing up today would be bigger faster and stronger versions asians of themselves who had learned to play this game as adroitly as adapted to play that game and i agree with adroitly okay. I didn't know what you're talking about but i do agree with that so then when you when you ask those hypothetical scenarios is a sports fan. I think you have to then differentiate like he would be able to train and practice in today's game. It's not as if you went to the time machine brought him out dropped him in and said go play football right because then you can't do it so i think that needs to be laid out if you ever have one of these hypothetical arguments but yeah that packers listed strange because do you know who verne llewellyn is nope. He's number five number five on the packers list yeah so number number one case do that in all n._f._l. Franchises and go back to a guy from the thirties forties and you might not know who it is by the way if you took any of today's n._b._a. V._a. star players the ball handlers put them back into the cousy era. They would never get over the time line without being called for traveling carrying the ball calming basketball right right because that was called watch cousy dribble in some of the old black and white footage hand never leaves the top of the basketball left hand off to the side outside of that was called for carrying the basketball but that's something ming but that's something that you can adjust to within a minute right. You got dropped into the nineteen sixties and they said travel. He'd be like what they said travel again to be like okay fine here. I'll do this and still going on you. You know you travel all the time now so you would know you're wrong the other way you might adjust to but having to keep your hand on top of the ball dribbled it the players in today's game it would take a long time to adapt. That's how they make. Re crossover move or you're crazy. You know what out of all the crazy easy things that you think that's one of them right there. I think it'd be just as easy to yeah. I think it'd be easy either way like if all of a sudden bottom he said oh wait i can i can do this. I can flippable rouse our time adapting to moving the ball side to side by hand on the side of the ball then today's players would would be able to adapt with hand always always having to be on the top of mind. You listen. Give them your i._r._a.'s five minutes crazy. That's and i'm i'm doubting outing as to whether you return to the show tomorrow i'm debating about one more weather. Maybe otherwise joel from detroit could do the show except we're not talking about the lines. 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It's october twenty seventh. Two thousand seven mark richt georgia football's head coach strolls across the turf of municipal stadium in jacksonville florida in just thirty minutes. His bulldogs will kick off against the florida gators and for once richt is brimming with confidence. Both teams are now five and two so neither there's really a national championship contention but for richt. This is still the most important game he's ever coached. It's chillier than usual today in jacksonville out the city. That's hosted pretty much every florida georgia game since the nineteen thirties jacksonville is supposed to be a neutral game site but it doesn't feel feel that way to richt it's in florida for crying out loud and a game called. The gator bowl is played here. How could it be neutral. Rick thinks as he looks up at a sea of orange blue gator fans. The gators brought the bulldogs to heal in five of their last six matchups. It's given florida a huge inge mental edge and made the buttoned up georgia coach desperate enough to do something crazy at least for him something with swagger. Maybe a little arrogance something to get some fire in his squad's belly. Even if it pisses off some football purists something in other words very unmarked rick lake in seven seasons at georgia richt has built a reputation as a man of faith. Who's quiet decency stands out in the cutthroat world of college football for him. It's simple you win with integrity you lose with integrity. It's the georgia way. That's what makes this right now. The most off the wall moment of mark ricks entire career as kickoff approaches rick makes his way back to the cramped locker room stands before before his players and reminds them of his plan to snap their losing streak. He tells them if you don't get a celebration penalty after our first score. You'll all be doing early morning morning. Runs welcome to jacksonville and the seventy fifth encounter at this site between these two bitter rivals however you need to to compete if you're going to have a real rivalry breath and georgia has lost as we said fifteen at the last seventeen almost nine minutes into a scoreless game with georgia face in third and goal at the florida one yard headline star running back no sean marino takes a hand off and jumps over the pile of lyman in front of him marino up attack georgia touch that and here comes terms the entire team. Watch this for excessive celebration. We may have fifteen hanky zamir on this one. I can't believe this plan. This was absolutely absolutely plan. Ric decided that he has got to try to fight his team up. He's tired l'audace having the psychological advantage. He's he's willing to give up the penalty. Nearly every georgia player on the sideline russia's the field penalty flags fly in every direction the c._b._s. c._b._s. 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How Many - Boxing Movies

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How Many - Boxing Movies

"In how many how many how. Many how manny one. Two three four five six seven nine. Who WOULD I get up to? Hello and welcome to a new episode of how many the only podcast on the Internet. That really counts. I am one of your host Jesse Jackson and join me. Today is Bob Scott Junior. And today we're talking the sweet science. Yes were rep the slipped that Jesse loves so much SPORTS LAST TIME. And you got to bed. Those scenes could cut the all all Casey. I'm right here at ringside at bally's where the breakfast buffets 395 the slots loose and the show. Girls are fantastic. And how about a prediction when it comes to the sweet science. I'm not much on predictions. Casey but I will say this one of these fighters is going to win this spout tonight and the other will almost surely not cookman going out on a limb right so a few weeks ago we did a hominy rates movies about football so we thought it would be good to go ahead and do a series on sports related movies. We started with football so we have now done the research like just on the sweet science and then maybe further down line. We can do about baseball hockey. Because part of the off air was which sport has as lowest? It's basically between think boxing baseball the base. I think what we'll do is we'll go through all the series and I think we could do baseball. We've done football. We could do boxing. We do basketball. And then we could do a miscellany category. Poppy Field Golf. Track and field goal on the quick break top gourmet heinous Wimbledon right. You know and then we'll do a combination of what are the best overall movie. But today we're talking boxing. Yes so I have compiled a list from a very well known website pedia which is basically a crutch for any research done on this show and I have put together a list of the top fifty greatest boxing movies of all time and in addition to that list of fifty. I have another six honorable mention about. We should discuss all right. So Scott. We're GonNa let you go first. Okay very close with my age so boxing. Boxing is not a sport. It is an exhibition. Unless there's a knockout if it's a knockout then it's something we're requires judging who still like figures figure. Skating gymnast. We've had this associate. Somebody has to win an ball now that it. Yes how many good boxing instead of fifty six hundred fifty six four movies black good four Bob Sturm theory of the rocky movies being terrible. I think there's a couple of rockies job out of fifty six. I'll say thirty thirty now. Remember this fifty. Six may not include some writings that you guys may think about as we're going to go. What about this movie? Yes so it could be higher than fifty six. I think Bob is on the right track. I think boxing makes because you have a built in kind of climate is the whole war the battle in the ring. If I'm going to thirty one all of all the sports is some of the most high-drama yes obviously since I've done the research my opinions a little biased but I don't know how many you guys right wing to ask so I'm still gonNA throw out a number. I am going to actually go. Lower the log said because I think a lot of these movies you guys have not seen okay and you're not going to be familiar with enough to WANNA count it. Okay so I am going to do. Twenty five pudding with the robot boxer yet. Real Steel yes. So let's look at the article mentions I do you guys recall a movie in two thousand thirteen starring Sylvester Stallone and Robert Deniro called grudge. Miss old they were others. Still had a grudge against each other and ended up. Fighting certain athletes are born enemies. Sweat the fiercest rivalry was between two fighters razor and kid. They fought only twice. But the tiebreaking grudge match never happens day of my retirement from professional box company. That wants deficient rematch. Hundred Green Black can't be in the same room that guy now worth they worked. I'm looking at Your House thirty years. After second fight kid mcdonagh and razor-sharp get ready to go at it again. Let's move goal at a Bra thump on your porch me alive gas live right now. Not a bad movie. Comedy Movie So would you say it's good enough to count. As one of our numbers I would not call it a great boxing movie though. I think it's a fun comedy. I did not hear it. No Yeah Baugh. Yeah. I'm Kinda with Jesse it was. It was okay. Kind of an analyze this level of was worth seeing but to see rocky premise was kind of funny Scott. Were you familiar with this familiar with it? And I would not have turned. I would agree. I only put it on there because it was a clear omission yes. I greatly now. What about Nineteen ninety-six as the great white hype with Samuel Jackson Peterberg Damon Wayans? Jeff Goldblum. Jon Lovitz anybody familiar with comedy. I would not put it as a great boxing movie once again. It was a movie but otherwise grudge match. It's a similar out of Garin exactly okay. So those wouldn't boxing is the macguffin about against the ropes. Two Thousand Four starring Meg Ryan and Omar APP said. Don't even remember this one so I don't remember either love. Did you say that Meg Ryan? Maybe she might indicate yes what. I did it through sheer force of real. I kicked my addiction to breast milk. I just had to find a way to make. Breasts seem repulsive your. How'd you do that? I watched in the cut Meg Ryan Topless. No thanks. Thanks around there against the road yet. Slash number coming up. How about nine hundred ninety nine? Play it to the bone with Antonio Banderas and Woody Harris that one I would count now. That was a good movie. We need to fighters by six o'clock tonight. We want guaranteed title shot in the contract. These guys should retire before one of them gets heart. Moody House Antonio Banderas Lolita Lucy. Liu Guy Phone I like that. Yes the are you familiar. Yes I am. I would've of hand the George Durga deem song was great now not by now this one. I only put in because I liked the song the main songs speaking of main the main event Barbra streisand and Ryan go huge really when it came out and the premises right that she lost all her money the only thing she had left contractors yes yes Shits Creek Sauk saying yes I would count this one. I love the song them. It's tough because there was a lot of boxing in the movie but I would not call it a I call it. A romantic comedies romantic comedy. So you're you're on the fence as a no y'all you're not you're pointing this. Do you WANNA use theft now. One that I was surprised was not the top fifty. But I can understand why it's one of the rockies rocky five when he fights hominy when Moore's law courses you've got one yellow walker taps coming in on the shoulder and says Walker's killing me. I this was probably the worst of the rocky. Yes it started his sons aged alone. I remember this and the premises if rocky boxes again he could yes. So because of Tommy Morrison gets cut. Yeah you could get a been custody. Canada and so makes the correct decision for his. Lv even though they need the money he decides not to fight. Could they still need? Apparently they had says manager at stolen John King the spirits are keeps taunting them and the Marines outside in the ring in the retirement only fight in the ring ring sets and then rocky fights him for no money in the same indicates a chance of killing himself. And I'm going. This is the stupidest Ama- if you're going to risk your health. Why would you not do it to protect your family off? Instead you risk your health for pride on it's an honor to no no no yes. It was as much as I love. Rocky I agree with just the worst. I think they try to pretend. Didn't happen. And they go to the to creed. Which are the true? I think the continuing of Rocky Rocky bubble which will get to yes. So it's a consensus all around so of the wonderful mentions. We're only going to say North Korean. Randall okay so we're only gonNA count. One of the Bible mentions played to the bone starting with number fifty on the top fifty greatest boxy movies. We have another rocky entry rocky. Four which is my actually my favorite rocky movie former. He fights Ivan Drago the most perfectly at whatever he hits B. to B. to change your thinking rocky four G. Nielsen is better than the Mr T. Three Rocky. Three is my second favorite one. What about first rocky? Y'All dudes who is my favorite but finally wiz our the this. I remember being when I went to see the theater going God. This was a short movie. It is kind of the same okay. We're really in the formula now but I would count it as a good box. Absolutely as the training montage where he's in Russia running up the mountain and the picking up of the Haystacks Connick to me. I love this movie. It's I'll have to give up regret I'll give a yes because I did enjoy that. I saw that when back in frigging High School. I think no lucky for was after eighty five. Yeah okay now. The next one number forty nine is one. I was not familiar with one thousand nine hundred nine triumph of the spirit. Which was of William Defoe Ever James. Almost Robert Lotion movie. It's regarding a guy that was great Jewish boxer. That was an offshoot wits. Where Gordon left the stickers. Now if you're Gordon you would eat a snickers bar this throw the wrapper on the ground. You have you had litter hold on. Yes he did you. You clarified this today did you or did you not eat a snickers bar. Here's the deal. Yes or no. I went into some quite well. It's not a simple question much more rappers not find the grab one of us that made a pilgrimage to go. Yes or no sir. No the which one did I go to I went to Auschwitz where? He's a boxer during World War. Two anybody familiar with our sounds like we should count it but since none of us had seen. It shouldn't vaguely you have heard of it. But I won't use the sight unseen exemption so I'M GONNA say no number forty eight. This one is white and you guys will house the Champ. Nine hundred ninety. S Schroeder Jon Voight Faye dunaway. Yes I'M GONNA say. No Dot like that movie. I didn't think it was a great but So what would have been better if scoops Callahan has been a champ. Champ was the key to winning. Today's Tournament Taboo. Bring out the Old Billy. Baru and thinking those parts like anytime begun on Valentine's Day. Why are you yelling your foot from me? I'm going to take the opposite. Take I'd be one account it but I will not argue if you guys don't okay so you're you're know you're yes. Yeah Scott knew and like that movie fence cable to not Paddington the stats. I'm going to say no I kind of out on Jon voight these days. He's off the deep end so number forty seven this one. I'm not familiar with the power of one. Nine hundred ninety two Stephen Dorf Armin. Mueller Stahl and Morgan Freeman math movie. English boy living in Africa during World War Two becomes a symbol of hope through his boxing prowess they really trying to tie a lot of these logs. Movies back to the war the Nazis and do not have a secondary story. No this one are like a victory of boxing right and so now I see your point about. We may have gone too high. Because there's a lot we don't know all right number forty six. I would count two thousand sixteen hands of stone. It's sixty six seconds. Roberto durant changed my life. He grew up in the streets eighteen. Everybody he's wild. He needs a comeback from Iran. The man with the hands of stone. We are in Roy serious ready right. Yeah account that Joe. Ramirez assure was in the city the Aurea d'arno was in it as well as you come out to air. So are we good movie now? The next one number forty five undisputed two thousand two. Wesley Snipes being rains. Peter Falk Colombo Colombo. Yes yes this is the movie. Where was he goes to prison? And he's like the boxing champion when he goes to jail at the ends up fighting games in a prison. Boxing match. Sounds good interesting but I don't remember it either. So if you guys are familiar with we can say no on that one. So it's not. It's not a documentary on the skip bayless and Shannon Sharpe. So the next one I do not recall either. One Thousand Nine Hundred Ninety Two nights in the city starring Robert Deniro Jessica Lang Cliff Gorman and he likes Wallich but I'll remember boxing. Being involved in a cheating and incompetent lawyer suddenly gets obsessed with becoming a boxing promoter. Okay anybody familiar with now saxophone. The soundtrack opt silvery young. The next one enough familiar with fighting. Tommy Riley starring Eddie Jones J P Davis in Christina Chambers. Two thousand four and aging trainer in a young fighter. Both of a second chance came up to overcome the demons of their past. Any anybody familiar with recognize the actors. Now it sounds like a direct in the direct to DVD out. Okay the next entry on the rocky lists and my second favorite rocky rocky three now when we fought you had that I of the title the edge. And now you've got to get it back and the way to get it back. Is the go back to the beginning? What qualities nightspots disguised as a machine? Go you've got a big mouth wardrop. I'M GONNA CRUCIFY HIM REAL BAD. You wake up into few years taking your winner. But you're not no tomorrow really lose its rockies. Greatest challenge to save. His arm is marriage and his manhood against his most devastating and dangerous opponent. Plus you all go for it so bester stallone Talia. Shire Burgess Meredith Carl weathers burt. Young AND INTRODUCING MR T. Rocky's free call weather's Mr T. Hulk Hogan slaves out there in the first baby. Mike is the ultimate male versus the ultimate. Wait movie great. Movie love this one tiger survivor song. The theme Song Scott Scott Says Yes Scott says yes on. That's pretty hotel the next one. I really liked this movie. Nineteen ninety-two digs town. Never joked about here in town Mr Gain boxing and I never heard it. Oh honey Roy Palmer take on any of you in the day. Nobody can take ten men ten any day. Where'd you bet two thousand bucks ten thousand dollars against Your Thousand House about your one hundred thousand dollars against my ten thousand series. That's a good one. Oliver Platt Heather Graham the Great Holy Shrine to. Yes everybody's familiar with that right now. You're not familiar with dicks. It's a good movie. It's kind of a scam kind of movie. Were there like what it is is. It's guys that work at a cemetery. Become boxers digs the next one nine thousand nine hundred seventy s the right and you guys as wheelhouse. Great White Hope. The most honored play in the history of Broadway becomes an electrifying motion. Picture as a Broadway play the Great White Hope One to Antoinette Perry Awards for best actor James Earl Jones. A devastating play becomes an unparalleled motion. Picture the great white hope so great. I James Earl Jones Jane Alexander Gilbert. Yeah I do remember. Yeah and it was a good. That's a good one. Okay so Jesse's Es Bob the route Scott doesn't remember it. I am going since I'm indifferent. I will say that this will count. How about resurrecting the champ? Two Thousand Seven Samuel L. Jackson Josh Hartnett Kathryn Morris Alan alda and the Great Teri Hatcher yes. They are real in the earth spectacular. By the way. They're real and they're spectacular. Anybody familiar with this one. I've never heard of this one. And up and coming sports reporter rescues a homeless man only to discover that he is in fact. A boxing. Legend believed to have passed away. I do remember this movie. It's not a bad movie. I don't know if I'd call it a great boxing movie and just kind of a side story. You're no bobby guy. I don't know I don't really know it so I'm going to say no. How about twenty four seven nineteen ninety-seven? Bob Hoskins Danny News Bomb. Many toby unemployed. Xbox rose money from gangster to set up a boxing club in a small gritty English city. Anybody familiar with Saudi. Now let's get back from Roger Rabbit though the next one number thirty seven was actually brought up a little bit earlier real steal a fighting together. I think all rolled to begin with fight. He's a sparring by bill to take a lot of hits but never dishing out any real punishment his new is that get emma fight. Remember this name Adam. This is one to watch. Can't win cuddly. We'll see two thousand eleven hugh Jackman. It has the chick from lost. Yeah and who is the Falcon so this was basically rackham soccer robots movie. Yes and I love this movie now. It's not to humans boxing but I would consider this a box. It's almost like a Pacific Rim was a boxing movie Because we need our numbers padded. I will say yes. You're going to say US Bob. I'll give me yeah Some kind of in between but yeah I. I watched the one that brought this movie up. Yes but you did it as a joke joke. I've only seen it on TV. Did Not your see at the movies. Because I thought it was a joke is simply robots that change into cars on the transformers. That's all it is so you know I would be kind of watching. The Olympic visit was something on. It may have been a holiday. My in-laws House or something. So he didn't have to pay for it. It really was a real steel. Oh okay so I'm GONNA say us so we're going to count that one. How about recent one? Two Thousand Fifteen southpaw tired. You could beat miserable without you find again. I can't what chance is there that we because the stick gas hope can make this show movement if control you see trae stone in math pirker south park. Let's stretch okay. Rachel McAdams WanNa Lawrence Forest whittaker fifty cent fifty cent. Yeah I remember that. That was actually pretty good. It wasn't so that's the one where he's a boxer. He's a champion. And during one of the press conferences the up and coming challengers gets in a fight with him and like a restaurant or something and they ended up accidentally killing his wife so he goes into this big depression and he fight his way out of depression to come become the champion again. It's a really good movie so I would say yes and Bob Jerry. Asiya familiar with it. That's one of the ones. I wouldn't have remembered coming in to put on the list now. Another more recent one bleed for this two thousand. Sixteen blood is that blood miles teller. Aaron Eckhart Katie. Seagal Bundy Jimmy. Taylor accident broke time. If I can. I can't say with any certainty. You're going to walk again. I'm not I'm afraid again. They're show me how you do things. This is the movie about Vinny Pazienza. They made a movie about him because he had a car crash and he ended up breaking his roared halo on for years. And that's him coming back to be able to box again. So when you do that Halo. Did he get whiplash from that? Car-crash I'm just wondering what Schillinger the one that brought him around. I I really liked this movie or you guys familiar. I. I'm not yeah I saw it. It was good okay. What did you see three against one we will county? It's all about the hammer seven. Oh Adam Corolla is Waldo custodio. Heather Juergens in Herald House. More loans. Headlined a movie of IT sounds terrible. Warranty you so. We're going to say no on them. Never heard about a bio pic. Ali Will Smith Jamie Fox. Jon voight Mario Van peebles hair thing like a man. Rumble you can go to Alabama. You can go to Sweden. Everybody knows that I am the champ. All he's out there. They know less talent like it from the darkness to the light. You want to send me to jail fine. You go right ahead boy dreamy. What me you'd better wake up and apologize. Yup that was a huge moon. Michael Mann Directed. I was in it to nurses okay. I really liked that movie out. Shot that out count. Jesse would you count all the yes? I would. Scott didn't see it. I didn't like it as much as I wanted to likings. It's one of those rival hard time with the actor. Not Looking enough like good person. The skinny that he's just there is too much Miami Vice Michael Manish imagery versus just skimming story skimming me the story but I would count. Yes it will say. Yes on that one The next one is actually nineteen forties. Movie not familiar with they. Call the set up Robert Ryan Audrey totter and George to buy. It's anybody familiar with that one now. The next one number thirty one was one that was brought up earlier as somebody who's favorite rocky movie rocky two loss as my favorite which is the one where he actually beats. Apollo creed border. Spoiler ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT. And the reason why the very beginning of the movie you get the recap of the crucial scenes of the first movie you know and then you see the whole how much of a mess. They are in the hospital. They're all all in and beaten up really funny about that is towards the end of the fight in the first movie. Apollo saying they're going to be in that room come out of the wheelchairs and immediately followed by Paul Bell. Nothing man I can beat that trump. I'll fight him anyplace anytime. Does that mean they'll be a rematch? I said anyplace anytime man. Can you hear you said there will be no rematch chop anyplace anytime on the scene at the middle of night where rocky his Iv did you give me everything you had? He's like yes. The whole drama of taxes. Kill you rocky. Not being the smartest person in the world didn't know what to do with the money. You all the different investments. Never use them as about investment condominiums that safe on omitted condominiums live us? What's real thing left to? Its he was cutting those commercials where he's like he's like Tarzan out own aftershave. Take one action go now. Action in the morning splash on and it makes me meal mainly meal mainly cut. The music is really good. Like in the first rocky was the soundtrack in the second and I I liked that one other than godfather that was probably one of the first sequels. That wasn't a drop off from the first one is actually same as actually a little better than the original. Possibly so because he he went. I just think it was a little better story. Yes they understood the character a little more and they developed a little more. It wasn't Cliche that you know Adrian's in the hospital in the whole you know. What can I do for you? You can win and the baby. What are we waiting little? I think when it comes to rocky movies it kind of depends on the era that you saw them. Are you guys the seventies rocky movies like the first one? When I was like what ten when it came out of school I went on a date with the movie. Jill this is still in high school. Her Dad was this really very possessive father and she was like all dad. I just stared at the core. Disa- talion on the so. Yeah Yeah so like for me rocky three and rocky for right in my shirt like really early years and I think that's why hold them in such high regard absolutely in either case to definitely counts the next one is a documentary? Two thousand eleven called knuckle an epic twelve year journey into the brutal secret world of Irish traveller bare knuckle fighting so it sounds like. Oh it's all Tyson flooring up Irish waters Gypsy too but I am not familiar with our accounting. Snatches up the next one is another rocky movie although it was one of the more recent ones two thousand six Rocky Ball Ball. This is the one that one ranked higher than rocky three and four and two. Yes in what I think. It is really connick. Seen it gets played old time where he's standing in front of the restaurant yelling at his son. That's how it is done. The you know apple not how hard you can get it. That's a really icon exceed. Everybody loves us. We tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you off. It will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it you me. Nobody is GonNa hit as hard as life but eight about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get moving forward. How much take a key moving forward? That's how it is done. That's a spare movie. I'M NOT GONNA count. I like that movie. I create came back and gave us another couple of chapters of the rocky saga but I thought if it ended there I thought it was a good ending running the restaurant. Going these little chair to see Adrian every day and I liked the movie. I thought it was good. That was the one where there is like a video game simulation of him fighting Antonio Tarver. Who was the heavyweight champion? I'm like Mike Tyson's knockout in the rocky video game character current heavyweight champion video game character in that rages him up so much that he challenges like a seventy year old rocky with the story. Line is kind of outlandish but I thought it was really good so me just your yes as Bob. You're no yama no Scott. Now do you WANNA use an exemption? I mean I'm all I can tell when I is to to put one in those attire earlier. GonNa say no on this the next one. I thought this was a TV. Show not a movie Two Thousand Sixteen Chuck Live Schreiber Elizabeth Moss. Ron Perlman Naomi. Watts and Michael. Rapaport THIS TUBS. Favourite boxing movie. A joke you and I have a lot in common. We both survived ten years now. Drinking only our own urine and reading poetry. I ever heard I'm not I'm not familiar with either way. It's a movie now rocky is supposed to be Chuck Wagner Story. Writing nine have been indirectly. This was an extra movie based on. Okay Okay Yeah Yeah Yes yes yes yes oh yes yes yes Okay but it's still a new best all right now when they just got brought a little while ago we were talking about Irish travellers. Snatch TWO THOUSAND JASON. Stay on the transporter Brad. Pitt Benicio Del Toro Dennis Farina. It's another one of those garbage. I really liked that movie. I wouldn't consider boxing. Movie based around Boxing Matches Finding Brad Pitt's character and like the swamp lands. Or what have you brought security parts? Heck Tooth lose likes Dishonest House for in Florence and scholar. Questions what Matt Cycle over right. This is terrible positive. Blue clear buys you understand. The school would but I'll I'll count because I like it. I like moving. So you're yes Jesse. Plus everybody loves to say snatch Scott. We familiar with this. I remember snatch do you like it has been one of my favorite things. I just can't get enough so that's GonNa be a yes now this one nineteen thirty one. Whoa the Champ Champ Champ Sam Champ yet Java Remake Wallis Beeri Jackie Cooper Irene rich. I'm not familiar at all. I mean he's one of Jackie's members when he was a child actor. I'm GONNA say no. No you know Ricky Schroder. Yes on on this. Yeah I'll say no Jackie Cooper. Do the child activists. It still looked like he was forty years old The next one thousand nine hundred fifty six somebody up there likes me Paul Newman. Pier Angeli Everett Sloane and sound many. Oh this is a bio pic about rocky Graziano. Based on his autobiography from childhood to being the champion in one thousand nine. Forty-seven anybody familiar. Now I remember the title Rotea Marciano. Yeah I'M GONNA be. He's the fear rock. Yes yeah the Rocky Marciano kicked out there. That's the output rocky Graziano after the Flying Squirrel. Rock speaking our number twenty four nineteen forty man. We're getting into some old movies here. City for Conquest James Cagney and shared Frank Craven and Anthony. Quinn Yeah See. You're never seen it so I'm going to have to vote though but if it's that high on the list with that cast it's probably good. I just never seen was playing a Mexican and Italian or French. Authorities spare Greek. Yes the plots of interesting blinded by ACID TINGED. Boxing gloves during a fight. Cagney tries to exact revenge on the gangster who arranged the accident. Wasn't they eat through the box? Whatnot premise. Okay. So we'll say no on that one the next Kind of a more recent movie and probably one of the few movies about female boxing girl fight two thousand. Michelle argues yeah Santiago Douglas Jamie Torelli Urban. I remember this one too. I thought it was a pretty good movie. You got familiar. Offsides Bob go but it was on. A good show is like very early first movies. I don't remember we don't have to count I but I don't think count it. They call it catfight. The next one I think is that you guys will. House nineteen seventy-five hard times Charles Bronson James Coburn. You'll Ireland. Yeah this is. This is a good Jill. Ireland was married to Charles runs. All right so yes as all around walls got. I probably would say no. I remember it so you don't you yeah. I'll say wife okay okay. So then. We'll say knowing that one very surprising so the next one of continuation of the rocky movies even though it doesn't have a rocky as the main character creed to which was the one that came out last year. This is Apollo creed son. Fighting DONNAS CREED FIXER DRAGO THOUGHT OF IVAN. Drago infamously killed. Apollo free appeared today to issue of challenge for Donna's creep. Don't do this. I ain't got a choice. Notre fighting for Steph curry wasn't all about making. He's still having the that one. Yes Honest Thompson Felicia Rashad brings back. Dolph Lundgren Mrs He. Cpa's Apollo widow. Yeah even though a different actors played her in the original rock movies and in this one he fights drago son. So it's kind of a revenge flick coca. Drago killed his dad. Yeah yeah it was a really good movies look better than the first creed I let say. Yes they're both good. Yeah but I did create a little bit better and it looks like this rank and a little bit higher Yuck unit right so that's a yes The next one number twenty nineteen ninety-seven the boxer after fourteen years in prison. Danny Flynn is coming on shore. Where you going to do? But I thought I'd try and get a few nights tight the fly off the streets and put it back where it belongs from the acclaimed director of in the name of the father. Daniel day-lewis Emily Watson the boxer Daniel Day Lewis another Irish related boxing movie. The guy goes to prison you kind of have to anything Daniel Day. Lewis is just taxis. The greatest actors. Yeah I'M GONNA say three of your water bottle who I drink your milkshake. I get up the next one number. Nineteen nineteen ninety nine the hurricane. Yes yes yup I gotta she wrote Rubin Hurricane Carter Toronto. This case was built on a foundation of lies. Twenty years spent locked up in a cage justice smaller put me in prison. Might make the argument that it's not really a boxing film. Because it's about him being imprisoned. Yeah is it all about the Goya just so God Because it's such a good film in it's Denzel. I'm Bob Dylan Song in the movie. So I think it might be part of the credits at the end. That's one of the few Bob Dylan songs that doesn't drain my life. Force here. Yes yes yes all right now. The next one is a documentary. Two thousand five ring of fire the Emile Griffith store. Good Salt doesn't burn fire ring of fire. I went down. Down down blames higher. Who was he meal? Griffin's boxer like in the fifties and sixties haven't even heard of him so now okay so that'll be the next one I think really counts 2005 Cinderella. Yes Pro Zellwegger. Emergency Brake alert karate kid three chuck from building gets it through your head. Clint Eastwood was he would clinch directed. All wait wait wait. What not a billion dollar baby yet. Oh complete close weight gender. I thought that's the movie for some reason. Always think million dollar baby is Cinderella but count shock you thinking the other familiar with the moving. We're discussing like I missed. This feels like a suicide squad. Justice League moment where you thought the Justice League which we talked about a little bit earlier do not. I'm not a fan of Jerry. Lido joker no. I definitely hate almost ruin. The movie for me was Robocop that guy. I like him normally. That was no kind of played. Rick Flag I hated that. Carrie talking about suicide squad yeah. That's the minute wait wait now. I Hell I. I thought we were talking about a billion dollars. Eighty million dollar baby if I need shoes traits. Let's the hike another movie from the Fifties Nineteen fifty six the harder they fall. Humphrey Bogart Rod Steiger Jan Sterling. He's like a boxing promoter shady promoter very dunking ish. But I am not familiar with this. We'll say no to that one now. This one is another documentary. Two Thousand Eight Tyson which was basically just him wanting a famous and dollar pigeons on the rooftop. Oh Yeah Yeah Age. It was a really entertaining documentary. But I don't know I don't remember seeing a lot of interviews. With custom motto documentary customers. Have the county say this all right. The next one number Fourteen Gentleman Jim. Nineteen Forty Two hopefully Smith and Jack Carson not familiar. I don't remember Italy because they had errol Flynn. And so it's called Gentleman Jim. Because it's the story of Jim Jim Corbett Yeah. I'm going to say okay. The lower side of boxing the next one the nineteen sixties movie requiem for a heavyweight Anthony. Quinn Jackie gleason Bruni. Julie Harris the double deal now without any good movies featured. I'm not familiar with this. I'm familiar with the title of and and that it was a movie but I never watched it. If you guys know from owner we'll say no nineteen ninety-six kids return. This looks like it was like a Japanese or Asian movie. Though I am familiar with this one at all souls. They got Zillah King Kong box. Now this one seems like it could be in your wheelhouse. Nineteen seventy four body and soul. John Garfield Lilli Palmer and Hazel Brooks So you are from other movie. Yes I think there was supposed to be some somewhat steamy scene. Oh if I remember correctly I did see it any of you guys all right so the next one and this guy just passed away. One thousand nine hundred eighty nine champion. I saw you call it. That got guts. You're willing to learn. No thanks not for me to lawful lot of money in the fight game you take me on on plenty of boost. You lose done wins. Luth's that's the way they want. Who cares what they walk? I'm tired of being pushed around yourself. You're really champion Kirk. Douglas Arthur Kennedy Maxwell so just your familiar with Sam. So you're yes. Bob Don't notice one. Scott. I don't know that had Kirk Douglas. So it can't be that so you're yes. GimMe only because I was in it. So twenty thousand rounds in the ring instead of twenty thousand I will say yes. I'M GONNA go ahead and make the deciding tie-breaker now now the next one. I think we'll count two thousand ten fighter. Nobody's got hard like you. You're very talented fighter. I WANNA give you a real shot. Make one last thing before it's too late. It's taught me everything I know. I can't do it without him due respect. He's too much trouble. We're going to tweet Nagoya Chris. I'm the one fighting not you not you not you. This is my shot at title. I won't get another one after. This mickey has a chance to do something that I never did. And He needs to be okay as he made his only Mark Wahlberg Christian Bale Amy out of Malaysia about Micky Ward. Yeah Yeah rate movie. A- and Christian Bale One Academy Award best supporting actor that I think is good right. Yeah Melissa Leo One Oscar on that one too. Yes you did. I believe okay number. Eight nine hundred seventy six rocky rock. Yes yes found automatic right. You believe that. America's the land of opportunity every mandal of settle for something less was a million to one shot isn't missiles esters stallone but you will always remember him as rocky that won best not the great Sydney. Didn't they win best pictures and did the best picture? What's interesting is they have the next movie above the original rocky creed two thousand fifteen. That is number seven this these boys coming here they gotta fight for life done ring. Your daddy died in the ring. Hang on doing me. Richest from ten thrown in the first break I heard about thirty five between Apollo bond closed doors the troop all this sun son. A great fighter said it ain't about how hard it's about how hard you can get. Keep moving forward this guy here. That's the toughest opponent you're ever going to have to face. I believe that's true in the rain and I think that's true life the show we something so they think it is a better movie than the original rock. You know what I think if you watch rocky and then watch creed. Most people would agree to if you take the emotion out of it. I think he's just the better better film. Yeah I really thought Chris good too so I would say thumbs up. Your Diet. Didn't see it. Okay put it on your homework with it is. It is a good film. The next one thousand nine hundred seventy two so it could be guys wheelhouse fat city. Yeah Stacy Keach Jeff Bridges Susan Tyrel. I should like to wake up in the morning. Be Waste Your Life makes a beeline for the train. This crappy maybe more auto. That's a yes yes got okay. Let's see the next one number five thousand ninety six another documentary when we were kings. George Foreman was a phenomenon. Big Bad monster and no one can whoop him. We're going to fly to desire his toughest scattered scare. They thought he would take one of the world's worst beatings ever wouldn't give up scattered in a time of courage in the jungles of Zaire. A man named Mohamed created his own destiny. Let me kill. This is his moment of truth. And this documentary was a rumble in the jungle when Ali Fahd Door. Frame Documentary Rape Great Documentary. Yeah that's that's considered. Watch the documentary. But I did not see and I saw the fight but I I. It's considered one of the Best Documentary S. Ever all right so we'll give a yes. Okay this one nineteen sixty Rocco and your here yet. Brothers deliver food to not familiar with this and know the next one one that bought thought was a different movie earlier million dollar baby. Yeah two thousand. Four Hillary Swing. Clint Eastwood Morgan Freeman new girl. Jeez fork in the bag MOMS. I'm not your boss bags working you if I take you on. Come you don't question me and I'm GonNa try to forget the fact that you're Roberto. I made a lot of mistakes in my life. I'm just trying to keep you from doing the same boss item again Li me. Never Hillary site probably won. Best Actor yes. I think it'd be. Excellent advocate was nominated for best picture. Too Yeah I download the first avenue. Donald all right number to maintain eighty guesses on what you think the next one will be like. Okay Robert De Niro Joe pesci the browns spill the raging bull. Let's hear for Great Jayme. Mata take more than anybody. There's no way I'm going ladies. If you trigger shot at the time if you feel that way there's no one else wants to fight all the freight yeah. I would definitely counted awful. I am of same good bit. I've never seen entire shots. You can I. I just recently like within ten years saw and was good. I know that ordering people which is a movie. I really enjoy a lot of people. Say Bad things about because at one or two people beat out. I love her so the reason I didn't see it in. It's so stupid but up until maybe fifteen twenty years ago I had a significant aversion to seeing in black and white only exception I would make for anything was three stooges asked. If it's a movie you're out you're like yeah stupid. I never had shocked that. There's a scorsese movie that you have not so there's a couple. I've never seen that. Would all heiress interesting? I never saw the Nicholas Cage. Ambulance movie either green out. I saw this when I saw raging bull in the theater when it came out because the girl I was dating highschool her data You've gotta go see this movie. You guys have to go see this movie. So we'll see the movie and I remember walking out of the movie and my girlfriend at the time. So what'd you thinks? That was the worst movie I've ever seen really. I thought it was off. Deniro had shape again. You've you still feel that I've seen parts of it. I still find it to be boring a just so much. It's on a date in high school movie and actually saw any of the movie that to me is the most jockey was just stop before. I've been okay. Okay all right. I'm not saying that was number one but is the number. One is a documentary. Two thousand four and have not seen this unforgivable blackness right Johnson for more than thirteen years. Jack Johnson was the most famous and the most notorious african-american on earth he battled his way from obscurity to the top of the heavyweight ranks one the greatest prize in American sports apprise that had always been the private preserve of quite combatants then suffered persecution at the hands of his own government and years of exile before the title was taken from him. The Real Jack Johnson was both more and less than those who loved or those who hated him. Ever knew just remember. He told a young reported not long before he died. Whatever you write about me that I was a man. I have seen that documentary in. It's a very good doctor. Joe Johnson from Galveston. Yes yes so. You're just a year yes I yeah. I've heard about that one now because it's number one. It must be good. I'm going to say yeah. I think there is a huge omission from the list but I would say if you were going to ask listed grids boxing movie ever made. I would say the quiet man John. My Dad's love and I'd like to tell you about the quiet man. He's John Wayne in a picture. You'll soon be cheering. It's the story of Shawn thought ended man who came from America to forget his past inishfree. Larry met up fiery red headed less and the village marriage broker went to work. It's a wonderful picture. The finest ever brought to the screen by John Ford and he's won three Kademi. Awards is direction makes unforgettable the performances of John Wayne Marino Heroin Berry bits Gerald and Victor McLaughlin awesome. Movie is funny. It's got serious controller in color full color. Yes said Lord of Echo. You WanNa add that as an honorable it. It has a great fight scene but it's thought of boxing. Movie was a boxer. What has he was I did read. He's a boxer who left the ring because he killed somebody. Would you consider the any which way but loose movies boxing the second one especially at the one where the guy we're fighting the barn and all that stuff? Yeah I always can remember quite man where they're just doing this massive battle through on Ross stop at the pug. They're taking drinks so for a while. They're just calm. This one of ticks off the other one they start Elizabeth again. The fight up the end their friends. Lots great movie used to be and I don't know why used to be on. Tbs Every Saint Patrick's Day have you would find the same scene. The question I have this needs to be your homework. You need. Yeah I agree with that. The thirty is One day we will do a John Ford. How many because in the problem is benny of them were black and white by John. Ford people said who are the three greatest American directors? Who's John Ford Gianforte? John Four right now. You're not going to count this because technically it's a short but my kids have gotten really into the three stooges so the one we always enjoy the most one of them is called storms and it's currently becomes a boxer. The only he's terrible except goes nuts. Whenever here's the solid the top goes the weasel and then starts ridiculous teamwork when they're actually boxing. They bring Larry to sit ringside because Larry completely pop goes on Violin. One point some happens. Somebody crosses the violin so he has big panic. It's high with the by coolies boxer name in the movie is Ko Stratovarius to speak panic. Run trying to find out of the arena winds now and he finds his radio and apparently they admitted Bluetooth in the third running with it more cord and it's still playing out so Never met but I don't count with. So what what are tunnels from the top fifty? We counted twenty four and then with the honorable mentions we have to. We have the quiet man and play to the bone. Gives us a full twenty six? Osso TWENTY-FIVE THAT'D BE. I win every nine thirty. Wait wait wait what you were counting my boat. 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Season 2 Ep. 92 Holiday Party

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Season 2 Ep. 92 Holiday Party

"This episode is brought to you by the holidays. The best time of the year to have every decision you've ever made put under a microscope. interscope by people you only see one time of year. The holidays are just a couple of decisions repeatedly all the time and the only time you gotta figure out real real good lies to know where you can't go that's what you do in your ally. Oh Man Yeah. Welcome to the show that is right. Starter saw aw. This guy had no music. No I got another I got another at you got another. Yeah this this this this episode brought to you by bread tomato trees kapito RIA spread tomato cheese. Get on your knees. I feel like we should all do promo radio. And this last promo is brought to you by Sun Giving San giving it's a different type of Thanksgiving there's American and there's a Latin version. You know you look like a Turkey you really. They do. Look like a Cuban Turkey. Let you know what I I celebrated Sun giving you hold. It does not look put together on this motherfucker talking this is John Looks. That's the alkyl festive dude. You you don't like the Turkey argue that they that they pardoned. Nobody was which one do I look like the federal one. Fuck you man. This guy says he's been addict for the last ten minutes literally saws go stupi three to it. There's no sound I was like. It was like monkeys discovering fire. Do we still need music that this point. WHO gives a shit? Just get US ready for the end. Your Jerko guys welcome to a special episode of the every. Yeah this is how we ended in the show. You you hope for later would. That's yeah. Yeah that's perfect. Yeah listen this is the one of the last two episodes because I thought this would be the last one but we got news. There's one more which combat with your excitement let me finish Rarin. Oh you mean in another day slavery right I might come back with the auto. Basically like is is weird. Because you just call you call your co host really feel bitch ass. You should just start putting that credits like interns a- servants. I JUST WANNA leave it hosts because you guys is our whole thing as well Yes I am your host John. Every man in sitting with me are the other hosts Sergio. So help me brother. How'd you feel doing your first? Promo of gray man. It was great man. I felt. Yeah you gotta get initiated. Man Coleman part of the gang now and you gotta take a shit squatting outside backwards you gotta face back in China. They're all all like using the. What do you mean taking backwards back back back bigger? That's that's you gotta be Shit like walking. I mean you gotTa face the twentieth. We're talking about different. Kinds is a show. Oh Shit Outside I. Sometimes I like to shit in people's backyards to folk with them find out your boss lives lives. Just welcome back in golf holes back in the day to watch them like pick it up. I Love Golf Course on the backyard. Watch outside and I'd go outside Shit in the Gulf. Hold that a run back to my yard and just watch and way would you white there are just is fuck dirty Al Fugger do so. What were their reactions was a really bad? Due to one time we collected like a like like a week's worth of dog shit and mix it with like clogs bleach eggs. We made like a fucking stupid for some reason and poured into the Gulf oil and then watched like the dude go win he. He put his hand in and then like an hour later. They had like a like a fuck in a huge truck like pumping some shit out like sucking it out like a sanitation Giant discuss see. We were talking about playing golf last week. I'm not Doing it now now. I'm Helen discourage I don't WanNA play. Now you're no community dog that's fucked up man. I didn't know people uh-huh because they did that. Probably like guys. I hold one happy as walking. Three hundred fifteen in your home plan the Tiger Woods dance but he fixed them off the one thing that we decided to do that. Ed That's how the Universe is. God you imagine little someone's you mentioned a big bet and like we had like a lot out of money at stake and fucking Dude fucking hits. Asaba wins but the Guy Hating over there his fucking talk. This guy bad happens thank you feel good. That'd be like a dark ending. Happy Gilmore. Yeah it would it would rewrite man. I feel festive man or material. Making Fun of my Shit Man. I feel good look at Christmas lights. Man This is the reason why I'm doing this by the way so just give everyone context. I mean we're not here for the next we're about to be gone for like about a month twenty twenty. You know what I mean. We'll we'll we'll be back then and in the meantime I wanna be able to cram in all the holidays all at once. You know what I mean. They had like a New Year's glasses right now. I'd probably be wearing the twenty twenty joints. It's on my face just so we can celebrate with the listeners. You know what I mean. I just want to celebrate this time with everybody. You'll fuck holidays. How's your holiday yesterday house Thanksgiving for you? Did you do a Thanksgiving giving No Ma'am I just gotTa show from Shit Talk to people Thatta like a business move. He just wants I was up man. You got that Turkey all right. Good thank you how I should was banging Mecca mccheese yours dam and I had A. I had like the Cuban sides I had the the rice the black beans there was walking. Moly really you're welcome. OLEA turn down. Yeah Man I didn't but that seems how could I like. I don't WanNA touch that. Giving People Double Dip. Oh yeah must son destroyed their yes. I was like man. I don't know whose kids you are healthy. Stuff like welcome all is not healthy. Man is well. It's a fruit a vegetable or is it a food or yeah but it's not like fucking shit makes little cheats man people forward welcome Olano. I don't know what he's talking about over there. It's it's good and it's very it's very California you do that places pathetic. It's Fine Potato Saito. I still remember that. That was my highlight for the year. Do little girlfriend. Hey Man if John Gato fucking little kid crush on the listen. I didn't touch my nose for what you that's only L. Bunch of times before for sure but not not. Now that we're now I I won't ever do it again. I'll never author again. No thousand percent really was is it because I think so I don't know yeah I don't know it just kind of took away all a fantasy. Go Away all yeah took away all of it really really. I couldn't I would like laugh. Laugh jerking off to her now. The really green talk to myself. It's backwards for me now. I feel ah like I I never I never seen lives you. Then yes like she got me. I don't want to become an avid watcher. But I mean you don't Wanna I don't WanNA become come on. Every guy is is is a pretty avid boy. Come every last watch the lawrence born in their life. Oh my God oh yeah I watch porn like that really know you'll watch nine man. I know it's crazy doesn't call me man like I don't go nuts for like I'm cool with Strip clubs restrict love you know my thing is rather see and not and not like buster nut. How does yeah I could do that? You know I remember. I remember like bagging the heyday there. You know a few years back you know those girls that just wanted to come to the crib and watch porn. Get down like that. But that's fine but like even that sucks. They asked me to suggest what porn I was like the how weird you. I'll just have a visual eligible to draw by flip book you look no payback. looker on the edges. Catch Oh man now man I just you know like for me. It's not like it's ever been paying like you know like I remember wall whatnot. The thing is like I was eleven years old in two thousand six so it was a thing where you're a year of like the wars wars generation. Even than me when I first started watching more and you know it was it was like we would go on the Internet and just to see one picture of some chick like with her tits out and shit. It would take like thirty thirty minutes to download the picture. Your friend's house down in the picture. And then her like you know like your boys mom would come home in while you're really trying to change until like dragon. Ball Z. Pictures Annoy Valley. Have you made the decision Of is better if she sees what I'm watching or sees me gesture off 'cause I either have time to put away my dacre. Turn this off I never I never got caught like that jerking off for sure. I was just let me going every everyone does that you. Now you've seen that seeing what I jerk off to now mice Gardy for life. You know man I you know in my day. It wasn't like that it was worse. I mean if you're GonNa Watch porn you had to get a hold of an actual video like you had to get like yeah on your. Yeah but I still. I know about like you porn type shit so it was either downloaded online wife. I'm trying to watch a full film which I never did. I did like three or four times to find out but or I'll go watch trailers from Ford website that was amended in seventeen years. All you need to get the party started you watch you watch three of those and you're done for the backcountry slut needs a pounding right so races aces I remember fucking their order. Bangor's DOT com. It was like. Do you ought to get deported. Note get this the man I clean my house because you on this country. Jesus I gotta see one now like I I feel like I need to see some cheesy. I haven't seen as so long you know as another. I haven't done it a long time. Almost try to get this one. What do you think would have been the one thing I haven't done the last S. C. Twenty years get a blowjob okay? Okay okay. That's that's up there. What you got damn sounded like definitely has settled? We said a whippy yeah. It's a long time those you know what I did. I wrote a bike row by using some some fucking Geisha like that. You're buying it's fun right as as we do. The triathlon Van Comedian Triathlon Repair King. What's and you could? If you want details I I actually doing enough. People are supporting. That aren't fat fucking schmucks that we might do a fucking obese person division and I do not know Peace Person Division. Okay okay. That's fair but what was the obese person. Very Fun is that I'm fucking. I'm barely obese. I'm like the fittest I activision. You're the dude who crossed over your duty. became a chick was in the I think but like by the end of training if any amount I won't be obese. It's GonNa be it's GonNa be man without a home but the the the ideas for everybody to try and because we already did it once we go do it again. Right always a half mile swim Thirty Mile Bike ride and three mile. Run down the thirteen mile bike rides. Kinda Long Dude. So we were all people yeah we we rolled from Sixteen and one nine around there like twelfth tropical before Tabby Park Down to Miami Dade Kendall campus and back thoughts. That's a little. That's a serious man. Listen let me tell you that if if I had any indication of where I would be physically ready I situation. You Bet I'm not ready. Listen if you die you die so for the park at no. You don't want to do to promote the everyman's show and I want the listener van show exactly on this show. John You gotta get John in this involved evolving. How many people got a comment? Do the triathlon. You can walk it. I'll give a fuck you fucking listen. I tried fighting him on the bike like that. Because this is what happened. I bought a bike from a crackhead the other day for five dollars brand new look great and this is a great gift for my son but I wanted to test. Ah Okay so the bike and what. I was testing the bike. I was writing your our swatter breath. I was hearing like I thought it was the the bike in was actually my body making noises and shit like I felt my knees creaky. Should I was like Yo. I'm like horribly out of shape like I can't be riding a bike. I don't know if I'd be ready for no triathlon. You did it today if you do it three times a week every week till then you got you know I can see. He must do in the bike. But I couldn't see myself doing. No Damn you just gotTa go back to that Crack Crack Crack and say soon you'll buy Ebi chased me in the water you swim. Am I buy a present for my son for Christmas from a crackhead was good bike yet. It was a swing. Joe I got a nearby for this riot. LLAMBRO data won't be dashes. You want to make a profit instead of making your son. Happy Invest in the stock on the Fugger if he spray painted the every man show bike. And what's the sponsor someone I think. That's what we should do. You do know Akaba you have to be in it. I mean my girlfriend envisage goodnight previously said he. Oh if you go to the nurse it'd be good for us to have a nurse as we do. I'll do it if you guys do it. The only thing I'm afraid of is the swimming undoing. You're not a great. We're doing it at a pool with that months okay okay. Instead of its open water our children. I could do that over. Water sounds kind. move a open water sales gangster and I also swim like shoes. Pick so fucking. 'cause that's where I could win this I think the thing and the last one was a bash being the pool by a hair. But that's that's another Puerto Rican Bro. We got it. It's instinctual wait. This is crazy. You guys are like going intense. I mean honestly like I agreed to do it and I've been to times and I rode my bike and I was like damn rocky I swear my ass off. Holy Shit Dude. I got okay so so you guys okay. Seems like a little race here. Maybe they're trying to go fast to win. But we're also imagine right in the guys that are doing a pro. We're not gonNA give this silly does involved. I'd eat probably the way better than me. I think I'd do horrible then. But that's cool man if you finish. It's a huge accomplishment Walter. Can I swim half. That's us the laps back and forth and steam laugh sixteen laps Holy Shit. That sounds like a lot for me. Are Cigarette smokers doing doing this. At April I smoke backwoods and shit. You guys need. I should do this. No you just need fucking balls brew like his Ozzy I I just don't know how your bill for this is swimming rhythm. Dude I have swum on your fucking though are the ones who wants to this. I I wish tornadoes here. Have I told you about Tarnaud in the triathlon on. No I think we you know what it's been so many episodes already by want to say we had this discussion. I just don't know if it was on the Mike now but Tar Turner was there last year. I do remember that it was pathetic. Also that's the day. He picked up smoking cigarettes smoking cigarettes that day. 'cause he quit he was he was actually he was like a Tko. He d cubed all along the underwear in nineteen fifties so good cigarettes but he got disqualified provide. He got kicked out of the the they were doing a class for like retarded kids at the end of the pool and the lifeguard leaves them kids the loan to sweet uh-huh and the thing is like the later like five feet deep but startled lane was like ten feet but it only started their halfway through the diving so I see this full hop his fat ass through the pool and I kinda know that if I keep looking back because I'm already way ahead of him. His floor ED's my floor but his lor did not seasons. He's a little step on the floor. And another little fucking February and the water brought missing a step but in the worst way mouthful of water did for sure you imagine turning umbrella guys wave me. He went down. Oh Wow you're but but yeah. I don't know if I could do a trap on. I mean they just do it. I can do like maybe like a one athlon my want. If you want to join us one part of the reason I also think that the if you're just joining us with the run that's push it because we're tired But if you're alright that's women that bike rider real fucking shit so if you do those just come through and fucking job. I'll shave my head and I'll get a t and I'll be your double. He looks at. I tried it would be fun. Yeah like a really mega remake. It 'cause we were taking more if we were taking the shit seriously then like right before the long weakened fuck around and do something like that to like really user lay you might. You might get me on to relay because on a relay at feel that someone responsible for one side of it. You know what I mean. All that'd be because it was a really I just do that and then I'm out you you know then you would run and I would like that. That'd be great. I mean we lose a little bit of that bite. That's thirteen miles home. I'm holding all that's why I lost the race push was you why because the Oriel fucking he knows how to Mike. He's Miami streets but really it was part of the races whereas Moore's was intiatives th. That's another whole element as a whole nother element. Dude he was he was taken lights. I was looking waiting like queer or the rhadamanthus Bradman's or how many this year it was supposed to be like six of us. Only three of US finished I in four of us did it. More people are down this number though was up. What's the number eight now really as nice man you guys get ten men then? I think that's exciting. You GotTa get coverage. Do we gotta get coverage though we gotta get someone with Alabama Film Lucy from the four of us are going to be strapped pros the whole time. Okay there we go. People are going to hear me. Say just as I'm rapping along to music that way. I don't have time offer censorship especially now when you're trying to win he'll keep saying that I don't mean what I'm saying and just in the moment man. Hey Man you know it's twenty twenty coming up like I can't believe the decades over already man like this has been insane. How time has flown like? Is there anything that you you guys take back from the decade like Zanny the money all the fact I did this show. That's crazy Like heading on your third third year with this with Tom and yet here. You GotTa go through your show for twenty twenty five. Oh Wow congratulations man. We'll at the hip hop gala. My friend but yeah you know what like what have you. What have what what have you took him back from this decade man Yau you took it with during the decade now? What you took him from me you know what for me? The most impressive thing was like not because per se but just the fact of like trump being president like like the city like the same decade in the same decade. We had the first black president meringue orange. One right now is crazy like they got the colors of Halloween Dow. Oh pack for the fucking corn. I think the birth of Of social media going heavy the way it was because social media was it it was a thing in the in the early two thousands. But you talk maybe my space and you know maybe my space like old six zero six. It was like when I I like. Oh Six oh seven thousand one all that Shit. I started really becoming like pop off. I think you know yeah. Was it his around along already to really does like my space and facebook. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah facebook facebook. Pass right man. FACEBOOK's been around for a while imagine. I'm surprised it's this long already but it wasn't like how it is at all like back then like how it is now how the sicknesses thicknesses is different than it was like now when it was really. You're just trying to kind of be like Yo like this is a little bit about me you know. I'm a coup up suit or whatever. I never had a try to fuck girls out here. If like that was like you know but now it's like people are really trying to sell L. themselves did you. Did you ever did. You have my space account of course did you pick up women with that. Of course not really a sixteen. Did I mean you figure at sixteen. That's what what you would want to do in my space. Yeah I was trying to like I just I never had my space account. I passed that phase like like it when it came and it went. I'd never got down not even facebook. It wasn't actually got down with comedy. That's nothing you know what. That's crazy man you know we're we're heading into twenty twenty twenty in my whole career has been dispatched and years basically man. That's crazy alright. I started back in twenty ten and Man I can't believe to this point like hell. What do you know what school Yemen soap hell? Yeah but that's crazy because if I'm if I'm thinking about it. That was the first time I ever tried comedy was like in two thousand. Ten probably really is the first time that I've ever ever tried it. It was just at a house party. Was that a house party. Those Z. Fuck it I'll do it like you know. It was my my friend's House Party and I just tried it and it went like pretty bad like it wasn't great. You know. Oh man listen on my first time. My first time I've got my first time was in tobacco road and I had to go on fifteen minutes and I got insulted in what I was doing and that was fifteen minutes. The first your first opened that fucked up. I had to go back in ten minutes the entire time. I must have did about Walter. Like what twenty. Five thirty five minutes entire night. Thirty minutes of Communist comedy really bad bet walters. Did you feel his anxiety. Could you feel it on him. No you know what they're ill. What their response was? I'll tell you what the response was. Never forget everyone's I like actual like criticism of anything. It was it wasn't that I wasn't funny. It was that I had stage presence of really. That was the one thing everyone repeated to me time and time again as we sat there you have stage presence visits and that stuck with me man. I'll never forget it. I heard it show many times that night. They weren't telling me I was funny or that I was funny. They were just telling me had Stage Presence Hey. Where's the bottle opener? Did it take off like what. What are we doing is buying pull more prank before he left on the breadsticks? Or whatever he's he's got like pranks like ready to go even when he leaves. That is fun house me okay. But it wasn't like a prank lazy. Yeah yes see that you know what maybe yet ten years for me. It's been ten years of comedy and acting and just building this whole situation. Up Man I'm curious to see what the next ten years are. Now for some reason I didn't even realize what we're doing ten years now another thing that trips me out with these past ten years the Miami Heat the Miami emme He Lebron James Man in this decade we can actually say we want. We got him in twenty ten right. Yeah Yeah Louis we actually won championships there. We got some we got like maybe what two three NBA Championships in that process with him Lure work good again though man actually really so it's like it's cycles to Kinda crazy ten years ago we got Lebron. And that's when we started being awesome started being great and then right now we just got Jimmy Taylor and we're about to get fucking Blake Griffin and we got this do cancer research about the lake roughing. Yeah we're about to be great again. Jesus Christ you think Blake reviewed take the the world goes in cycles man. I mean it's crazy you're right. I think that they were starting back up from where the heat left off. It was amazing. The dolphins are still same way like going back and years like this is not working the canes and getting there right But yeah all all in Miami. Miami's gone through a crazy transformation. It's the craziest. Miami looks completely different. From what twenty. To look like in twenty three remember the did you do. How would you ever go to win? Would and twenty ten that night. The birth of a wing lugging went to win. Went back then. Nobody would arguing the heart district. Make the if you like serious in art like crazy argue that private gallons and whatnot. It was in Winwood or you buy some crazy furniture. That's all you were gonNA. You know w should though back in the day like when when when I started the art walk like when they first started doing that Shit. Oh like the whatever like on a Saturday once a month or something and there'd be people dude there'd be like dudes out there with a shopping cart selling beer out of the shopping cart. The Dan like you could just get food on the street like it was just like lawless. There were no permits. No nothing like it was just like a fucking street party like and never know regulations. It was amazing. The real people sick of that area. They'll tell you that it will never be the same push sure. Of course it was amazing. You know not I've I've traveled more and I've gotten to see some of those areas. A lot of people have like a win. Would I'd like atmosphere like they all got like these winward towns light was the one in Tampa he bore city Dallas got had deep ellum or when would probably just copy one of them. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Some white like fat cat mastermind. You know Who just sprung all these fucking trendy cities in like a place that used to be probably Kinda Hood like? I'm convinced now bro. I'm convinced like it's like a set of is like when they tell you that the man is real like it's real man I even to make you have a good time. They got the hand and everything is just as to ironic roenick every place. Looks like winwood in all different sizes like in. It's like you've got the same exact people walk in there. The same exact ones dressed the same way which makes makes me laugh to because of the same ones scream individuality so like you just seen them there and you like you're the one screaming individuality but you doing the same thing that looks the same way like like ten cities that way. I think that today though man how much things have changed in this decade I mean obviously everything changes but light some of the more impressive things about this past decade. That's changed the most. What do you like Walter? You happy that they make trump making America. Great again an accident hello. I'm impressed that walters been hanging onto the same clothes. Not just for the past decade for the past two decades. Don't convince flight. Eight moving on. I saw some stories always wanted to kind of go over in here. Saw Guy get arrested. I hear Miami Beach Right. He got arrested for recruiting prostitutes which they call the human trafficking. I like I hate that term because I feel that the pimp versus a human traffickers to different people. You know what I mean pity pimps let the girl go home from what I understand. They live in a house and they they come and go. It's it's you know it's a willed offer and and if you're like one of those will right and there's and I know plenty of guys or I don't know anybody like I knew of plenty of guys that you would hear stories stories that they did they. They managed to girls but they didn't you know own them in any way got them customers. That's right and they paid them. Whatever ever like an agent exactly but this guy he might have not been the best pimp ever? That's why he got. He got classified under human trafficker Africa. But the thing was that and this was my question. Like if you were a good pip right if you were a good hearted pig you know you're not doing any ill. Were you just making these girls. Somebody making some money. You know. They don't they they need protection. You offer it whatever. You're a good person. What are your what are your criterias to recruit a prostitute? Like what what what are you looking for what you get when you what are your criterias on. Doesn't like yeah. Like a decent body helps everything that but she just has to make you feel like you're not paying for it. I think if the girl can make you feel like you're not paying for it right then like she's a good so you won't hurt so then when she pleases that Guy. You wanted to feel like Dan. Don't make your don't cheapen the experience EXAC- say no girlfriend so they'll give you a whole sensual feeling like being a girlfriend. Yeah no not no no. But it's not even just mashing twenty bucks and among about rape I feel like I gotTa have arrange now. You should pay me for Dick. I'll do is hoping and pulpit so aw I think that they should have variety if it was me I'd have a right to have like some of the L.. Some they hit that age limit. Cutoff Age Twenty one. I would think right or as eighteen Thursday is eighteen right. Yeah no I get like an older one to get like a hooker because you gotta have variety for right and then I'd want some big Buddhi flat. Booties but one of the things I would want the my my my my hookers to possess is the ability to fight to fight to fight the gotTa know some sort sorta martial arts like obviously no fool hookers right Kung Fu hookers like if you need to walk around like nunchucks in your irs. Like something like that because I can't really really defendant. If Shit goes awry like we got problems were but mere both going to be screwed. And I can't have that APP in like I'm not I'm not that type of pip up. You know what I mean like. What if I knocked on their door and I'm wearing all this festive shake and bake he's GonNa Punch me dead in my face like I'm not going to be able to stop this so I figure like Ma Ma? Prostitutes need to be able to fight. You know what I mean. So then why are they need. You know no because John Actually solicits press tennis. I'll help them like get addressed nine. I'll drive a place. I could drive you now. You gotta be gotta be more. You're more of like a manager. You're you're like an age right. I'm more like the escort. Represented a strong hand. You know the pimp is a strong. I can't I can't I can't I can't check the whole check the whole chuck whoever's China followed the whole like he'll you know for my handle the business a when you treat them well they seem to want to work more and bring you Dallas stuff like that it never lasts. I mean that's why I don't want to do that and and again like if she could fight she punched me so like. I'm not trying to have that happen. Neither so they just can't check the whole like I just work with us. The talk in reference to manage few chicks they want to pursue that as a career. Why when it it comes to and he says look like this on the outside as you a tranny? I think I would have the have training in the stable. Because there's guys that want that stop you gotta sell. You GotTa have stuck to sell really you gotTa have stuff to sell Walmart Walmart. Everything my man every jail in Brazil and Thailand. Those are like two places where we're that's like big you know. Oh by just as I would bring one of those from out of town right. You're right you're right. You're right you're right you're right it's like rum raisin ice cream right like you need to have some of that shit every time that you don't like Eddie told people I guess so you know those people from them for them to act as you say for sure Joe Joe. Listen there's men in in the world beloved a woman with no assets and big titties true. Yeah but he don't give a fuck about butiks later they rather rub Mosley out take small titties all day bully is NASA says dear the backwards. There's that got chewed like this. The ash and I'm David. Yeah yeah one hundred percent titties a-plus extra right. I've worked plenty of girls. Who just you know you the back? It doesn't matter you don't see the go when you're going to go back there. Listen I'm I'm on that side of the fence to nowadays back then you know you were a little more like tighter with your you know your criteria you know you just had these inches house but we're talking about being penny but in this in this day and age because we know man we. I don't know I'm so far. Removed moved out no nothing. Nothing apparent. I'll pay won't be able to know about. The point is my stuff we did no. Yeah that was good. That was good. It's true now we're going to focus all final pit man. You know next year next year we're going to dive into a little bit more topics like that and try to visit that world. A little more. I think that the best deal. They're apparent listen to my little best you over there We Mow mow my best. He Misra cal you know. We're going to have her bag in. We're going to have women like that. So hopefully we can visit that world more often next year but yet not like out I always wanted to interview him. I Love Pimps Man. I think great I think think bad ones. I'm not talking. I'm not talking human trafficking watching US right now with shot out to our viewers like I'm not talking about like human traffickers. Not that weird shit going on where you take women. And they don't see daylight and they don't know who they are and they're constantly drugged up. None of that intensity I'm I'm talking about a girl that maybe she likes to. She likes to have sex for money. s what she wants but she's scared of the world she don't want to get caught and some you and traffic entrap in name. Some dude you know I. It sometimes happens is a legal Dong. They're going to happen. They can have but this is real world. Yes it's it's a reality for shirted. I've seen the wire man. Oh man moving along moving moving along next topic. We don't have Michigan night. We know we gotta start that. If he doesn't show for the next episode we just gotTa Start. Putting the background like Michigan night we got a cardboard cutout of them. Yeah right we'll just put it somewhere there maybe sticking on the freeway. Someone knows his whereabouts. And let us know but You know over just before Thanksgiving man there was a guy up in New York. This happened in New York. Solder News Guy Breaks into a lady's house ladies eighty two years old lady worked his ass. She is novels novels. Two straight fisted notice lie would she to boot is a bodybuilder them. You know what it is to get to ask for the eighty two year. Old Bodybuilder. Do eighty-two bodybuilding eighty two year old body will amazing to have the dinosaur division or the. I have no clue where they had her but she were wearing up. Do Rag on the top of really I kid you not Joe. Those she he ca guns on the news. Do she when I like Chicago guns brawls like Oh my God does she had to cut off like the cutoff shirts and and shit like I was like Yo. This chick is insane but she said the do walked in he was drunk and she took like two four. They whooped his asks. What would you do? You got what by eighty two year old lady. That was a bodybuilder The that would never happen. I will never do some shit like that. No never do any weird retarded chilly for I got shows like the Dow's your home. What would you tell them? He didn't get arrested. She didn't press charges they let them go. Oh really where was. This was the New York you burn. Your you know how they got eight hundred boroughs. I don't know which. which are their battle or borough we talked about? Sounds like Florida story. No it wasn't a Florida man or Florida woman. I'm Oh we're going to just crawl. They've been there and and she just pulled a two by four inches fucking yes well she. I don't remember how she said a piece of wood or something like that some sort of object. She hid away but she beat on the man and you know mess them up he was drunk already. But but you know what I mean like. That's still messed up like an eighty two year old bodybuilder. Definitely I mean come on Russ does the does terrible for your for your street credit. I must have been a bummed though he had been a bum like. I don't know the specifics on that. You know. I saw a real brief moment on it but I was just like damn man. What if what if lake? How's how's my homeboy damned? All you got you got to buy eighty two year old lady Bro. Oh that's like. Yeah that's like that moment at the end of Friday but like way worse like you know what what what's one casinos like the first part part way when he fucking and when he when he knocks out deboning L. O.. You got knocked the I mean that would have been e E. I'm glad he didn't go to jail. I guess but what does she let go the wrong one. You know what I mean to. I was like maybe they should arrest the guy the way you know. What speaking of Florida Mak- I know we mentioned it down here in Florida? This was the interesting story. Not This isn't too far from the neck of the woods of Out there by downtown. This is somewhere around downtown. This was on Twelfth Avenue South West H street. Okay like like somewhere like in Little Havana. I think that's a little area. Men gets arrested for punching an old man okay. Situation was the man thirty nine years old was standing outside of a of a frisk we mass jerking off the thirty. The thirty nine year old man the thirty nine year old guy. Yeah the young guys outside thirty nine year old male jerking off outside of Vergunov. Outside of the first gooey muscle Sir right. He's jerking off and pants down to his ankles. Ease fuck in beaten. The meat at sixty five year old man comes up to him and tells him to stop doing right by buddy when having that punched him and when the man hit the ground he still he still kept punching. Oh Shit Yea beat up. This old man Cops come and arrested do. Here's the crazy part while he was in the hospital rest eat while sitting in the hallway. Can't Jerky what how though with the handcuffs behind his back. What how did he Jerkov this jerk off with handcuffs on? That's like a jerk. No clue those those avoid volume based no that was eight. It was like one of these arrests story. Reports one of these local neighborhood stories. I read online and House Man I wish I could site where I got this from. Jesus Christ but I know I just had it bear and yeah that was definitely Florida house like that is crazy and it was right here. Miami which was like the shocker. You know what I mean. It was like right here. I'm just trying to think like how the fuck okay. How could he absorbed off with? Well you gotta you gotTa be assuming you got to be in that white robe that they put you in a hospital spital gown right. Because he's not naked because the legs or some shit damn again don't they. You know what Oh you did. Put me on to ward because I was like man. How did they do that? You know how fucked did he jerk off like that like somehow like uncomfortable or something something. That's a great great story. I said this is a hard work for us. Yeah this guy could have been dying. He was just like I'm GONNA go out. Imagine if he was there for revenge old man. He's like I'm going to get them back. Go home. I'm a jerk off here and finish the job. How did you black Friday shopping for no no? You're not into the. I don't get deals just because because they exist you know like that's really the whole it's just like Oh my God a deal exist. I need it like you know. I just hate how people behave towards towards e that you know I think black Friday's cool. Whatever 'cause I look man? I just went into anger library. I had to get some new quit for the show and again a Got The December Fifth Galyon against some last minute. Thanks for it. Sounds like you know what I'm GonNa take advantage of today's black Friday and pay for it a little cheaper than I normally would and and I knew I was going to do that but I don't think had I not had a situation like that I don't they got me. I don't I get the point. I think cyber Monday make sense. I think everybody's getting that little online the only thing. Yeah this this show black Friday getting out of hand man. You're driving down the parking lot today. People fucking looking being digs. Can't you can't get no parking nowhere. Everybody named mom the whole fucking town full idea. was that these malls. That's what I felt like today. Why did you go to get some shit for the show and I wanted to say Mash and the only fucking one that they had was in Dolphin Mall Wives Ramona? Do you should have done a I would have but you know how normal fashion that we I can't do I. You know I just said cyber Monday sounds better for deals but I'm not online online shopper. Yo like I cannot sit there in. I don't have the patience of. I want to buy some one about his ship for now. Ain't try to buy this shift for five days later role. Whatever whatever I mean book says you the Hassle of having to deal with any of that shit I mean that black Friday shit man? They gotTA stop though. I think that's the one honestly as much as I know. It'll affect me as as one of my favorite moment to take advantage of cheap shit. I just don't get them doing that. Black Friday shit no more man. It's too many people. It used to be cool bagging days man but it's too many people you know what I mean too much. I don't know on the the president. Should fuck this shit sweat ever Walter. How we doing on time man Edgar moment? I think we're going to wrap it up now. I think we hit the finish line and looks here. Gift wrapped it up early early. That's what he gets. He loves people love. And we don't do these shows like this when we don't have a lot of guests and it's just the you know the crew which is funny you. The crew complains clean the whole time. They like. Oh you know just need to sit there and just have good time you know. We love guests but we got to where we were we with our time that's all right man et Cetera for this week was like you know I'm convinced that in love horsemen horseman. People love to complain. I I don't think people older you get the better. You become a complaining. You got a good at it right. Isn't that the thing mega. Take whatever whatever you commercial you're watching for Geico you can hear the great like he's got the commercial running and yeah there you go whatever whatever commercials going on there but yeah you know people are just fucking Oh you know what before I do. This man is there anything I did. The slash won't do it again. I didn't do it last week before Thanksgiving but we're GONNA do it now. Is there anything you're not thankful for. I'm not thankful for ride. That's that's hilarious year. I don't know my ex girlfriend. Yeah all right. Thanks for that bitch. I'm not thankful for anyone by the name of Ezra Fuck anyone by the name of your name is Ezra Bill Oh mother fucking problems. I didn't say this last year but I can say this year right I get I get thumbs up to it okay. That's what but I'm not thankful for. I'm not thankful for anyone. Who has the name Ezra or ever used a song by the name of? Ezra if you'd like this show and your name was Ezra like I'm sorry but I personally personally don't like you like it's horrible guy. He as research horrible horrible Tamera. That must have been a horrible person in the Bible story was but all right. Yeah that's what I'm not thankful for more man What do you? What do you expect for twenty twenty more the same but better? Yeah you coming back to their Michelle Twenty Twenty for sure. That's great great man. Great because as you can see I lose I lose people here every now and then good man so you know. We're thankful for you. Sergio you know ah I gotta say man came on good for the year. Man is pretty good way. I'm not thankful for you neither a week. You know what. I'm thankful thankful for Walter Coming in at ten minutes. I'm using my ten minutes each got my time. Don't lie to me then. You should've said now now but yeah now. We're not they've of water but we kind of painful for him filling in for noodles. We've missed rosemary. 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"God morning time to get up with coli and the raptors, they roll the dice in the biggest way and came up huge winners. We'll tell you what it means and who might be next to try the same. It was tough ending for Janas was this run just beginning or was the Greek freak exposed in the conference final? And then he's there star player in the NFL on the verge of being the next Levy on ready to sit out a season to get a new deal cancer for those and other questions as we get out with you starting right now, wishing you piece on this Memorial Day and delighted to have you with us on this holiday greeny, and Laura are here DJ is bad shoot threes. Tom Civetta was here to defend the indefensible coaching. We're gonna we're, we're sort of having a whole lot. I fights here lately. I and we'll see how that goes, but let's start by getting up and going, we'll get up and go running around some of the events of the weekend. In sports starting base. Fall where the seven game win streak came to an end. Sunday in KC Royal. Walk it on whitmire appeal that RBI single bottom attain. Yankees had rallied from seven one down to tie it the bombers, still a two game lead over the raise in the AL. It was the first walk off the beat of the Yankee season. And so the now at six fifty four winning percentage second in the American League only two the twins who approved way, major league best thirty six and sixteen with their seven nothing win over the White Sox yesterday twins. Have now won six straight and eleven of the last twelve listen to this good their opponents on hundred and five to forty four in that span. Indy five hundred Vive LA call pole-sitter Simon Panzer now is your winter. He's the first fringe board winner to win the five hundred since gusto Chevrolet nineteen twenty these loves my pronunciation, I drive that win the race from the pole position since cast on Yemen's in two thousand nine. Hockey where the Stanley Cup finals tonight in Boston. Bruins hosting the Cinderella, Saint Louis blues blues had the worst record hockey in January able to sneak into the playoffs and now have a chance to avenge nineteen seventy Stanley Cup final defeat to the Bruins as they begin that best of seven series tonight, and all of that brings us back to the NBA where the finals are now set after the raptors finish off the boxing game. Six on Saturday night rallying from fifteen down behind Kawai letter to finish with twenty seven points, seventeen boards, seven assists. It'll be the first trip to the NBA finals into Ronco franchise history and Leonard. Obviously, the overwhelming reason why he became the third player in the last twenty five years, who lead his team in scoring and reach the NBA finals and his first season with a team, you may recognize the other two LeBron did at his first year in Miami. And Jason Kidd, did it with the nets in two thousand worth pointing out neither of those two LeBron nor. Kid that year one of winning the championship. We will see if co is able to do that here is we get our first crack at this, and I wanna start with this, and Tibbs will start with you as one who has been involved in putting together teams and organizations in the NBA to me, the star of all of this is messiah Jiri, who was the general manager of the raptors and to just call him the executive of the year in my opinion sell short, what he accomplished bear in mind that a little less than a year ago. He fired the coach of the year and trade it away the face of the franchise and eleven months later. He looks like genius. Yeah, I think it was a major move Masai. It's calculated risk. I think he saw the team. He had winner about, as far as it could go his is also coupled with LeBron leaving the east. So there was an opportunity there. I think he roll the dice of. There's a there's a big gamble in this and it's obviously paying off right now but they gave up a lot. They gave up the mar- derozen. They gave up hurdle Riddick young player in verse round pick. In, but he's in a great -sition now he's got to pass that he can go down of quite stage. Obviously. That's the best path for them if he goes, they can move in a different direction and also started rebuilt, and then they would make other roster adjustments there, an terrific position. I think he felt they were at the end of the rope with the team that he had. They could be starting to rebuild in its soon as a month, which is crazy to think about. But do you think who is going to stay in Toronto? I don't think so. When loser draw, I think he leaves. I just think it's a better opportunity for him where he perceives to be going, and that's out west to, to the Los Angeles, Clippers or the Los Angeles Lakers. And I just think Toronto's a great city and he did some great things. They're you know, hopefully they get the job done and when NBA finals. But I think he's gone either way. Let's analyze that for 'cause when we say it's a better situation. Perceives it to be. Yeah. I understand there's no place like home, and he's a southern. California guy, and he's just strikes you as the kind of person for whom that familiarity is important. Right. That's just the kind of personality, he seems to have having said that it's easier to win. The east got a team in the NBA finals. And they have a lot of good young pieces. So his best chance to win is probably to remain in Toronto. No depends on who goes with it. You know, we've talked about for weeks on end how he's going to team up with Kevin Durant, or these gonna go LeBron James in LA. So what better way to go home to team up with two of the best players in the hold on one second because I need to come back to you on this and for those who don't know, DJ coach till you with the Brown. You know, him very well and the conventional wisdom for the longest time now has been Kawais going to the clippers clippers just in the last week or so, suddenly, we start hearing about, you know, the Tampere and, and all this. Do you believe there is a real opportunity here for why to wind up with the Lakers and LeBron? I really I think, I think it does. And, you know, the conspiracy theorists out that LeBron flute affiliate Philadelphia doing the Toronto Philly series meet with, and you know what? It's a great match. Why he's one of the best two way players in the league he could score the basketball Nebraska's, if Acilitator the basketball, and it just works well together, that's fascinating to me. And I wanna go back to the previous tips, as DJ just touched on here. Let's make sure we explain this to everybody. They might win the championship. The raptors two weeks from now could be pulling up the trophy, they might be the champions and then collides go back to the clippers explain their moves. They could win the title and be a full rebuild in the span of about three weeks. Yeah. I think messiah created this knowing that this would be a possibility in so yes to great options. I think he's developed his young players in this does happen. They could go down a different path. And you probably see him move some of the older players on his roster in quite stays. I think when you look at why I think they should win it if they do win it, and that could happen. It may be harder for him to leave. I think he won't make his decision until he has all the information that he needs, and then obviously, he'll make the best decision for himself and his family. But he's, he's got great options out of deejays working for LeBron. This. Let me ask you this question to. Ronal LA. Well, the one thing I would say about why, and he's talked about it often he talks about the importance of winning the west is a different animal. So I think that, that will factor into it as well. But in terms of you're making a decision on whether. DJ -ing. Maybe that way. But I think it'll be a basketball decision in. I think he'll go with the best chance that he feels. He has to continue to win championships. Go ahead. I was to say that was a nice way of not like fully answering DJ. We have. You would say Doc Rivers McLaughlin. So it is breaking news. That's interesting. Doc Rivers and the clippers with Katie. I'm just making this up now because that's one of the, the Kawai goes to the clippers right now by himself. And by himself as an unreasonable way to put it the clippers just took the warriors, six games of the amount of these, as it was with Kevin Durant. But if it's going there without another superstar going there or go into the Lakers with LeBron James. I'm not sure which is necessarily the better situation if he's teaming up with Kevin Durant with the clippers forget it Katie bar, the door they're the favorites to win the championship starting immediately. Right. But otherwise, you're better off playing with LeBron. And with no disrespect intended to your profession, no matter who the coaches LeBron greedy. Kokomo on now waking everyone. Rolling the balls are out there at the start of the. But what I'm saying, but what I'm sitting is this league is about stars about great player in that Western Conference you've seen has difficult that is. And if I'm co Leonard if I'm focused on winning if I'm going to the west, I better be doing it with another player of that, caliber. I'm not going to the clippers and deciding I'm gonna try and win this thing. Because Doc Rivers is my coach. Well, the clippers situation is fluid because they have to max spot. Right. And they could get another guy you know, everybody wants to play in southern California. Tips knows that. But if he if he goes in and right now, LeBron James, and they have one more slot at think they can feel. I'm not sure they do I have to ask the cap guys. They do they have to, and you could get a Kimball Walker. You can convince a carrier Ving to come to LA then you have your neck super team wherever quite goes in. He stays in Toronto. They're going to win big. If you look at his winning. Senate as starter in this league. He's one seventy three percent of his games. So wherever he goes, he's going to win can win a championship. I think in the west you need more than they probably need three to knock off Golden State you need at least three guys, of course. Okay, let's actually talk about the other side of that series is the bucks. Lose this one game six got away from them out to take a fifteen point lead in the third quarter. The raptors took advantage of cold, but shooting going to twenty six to three run taking control the game in the series as abouts were sent home after having the best record in the NBA in the regular season. So kind of feels like you gotta stick with Janas here. It's a camera on life friend, Mike Greenberg here because he's very of set about everything that he saw I was just having a flashback to five men looking completely panicked, and, and discombobulated throwing the ball frantically around the perimeter and then hosting a terrible three contested. With one second left on. Shop laud which seems to be the offensive game plan of the Milwaukee Bucks the last sixteen minutes of that game. And what they got a fifteen point lead with something like four minutes left in the third quarter. And from that moment forward. I don't know that I've ever seen a team look less able to to close out a big win on the road than they did. They looked panicked and totally out of control. To me. This is team with a guy who some people say is the best player in the sport. And guy who some people say it's going to be the coach of the year tips. What happened? What the, the big thing is making shots thought you have to give run a lot of credit for their defense. They loaded up on them. Big double team. And I think game five was the swing game. So they couldn't hit threes in that game. Toronto, a lot of credit for the way they help and they recovered and challenge those shots at three point line, the pressure that moment of going to the finals is probably different for Milwaukee than it was for Toronto. Toronto head qui- that Danny green to have been a lot of big games. They haven't filed who's been in a lot of big games. Milwaukee hasn't been there yet there's a lot of pressure in those moments, I think that will come when you look at the progression of Janas it's a twenty four year old to do the things that he's done and to watch his growth into to see who he is my give Milwaukee a lot of credit. David make shots. When you look at game five five was a very very close game. That's came five. I'm talking on the road a fifteen point lead in the third quarter of a game that you absolutely have in your control and it wasn't I didn't make shots. They didn't get one good. Look at the basket. They didn't look ahead entity a how they want to try do they wanna play. I understand that they just run pace in space, which is. Basketball phrase for we don't run an offense. But do they have a single is literally one, they can run that? Oh, five guys are going to particular place on the floor of the ball is going gonna move. And the objective is to get a good shot at. Well, I think that's part will be part of their growth to understand, like, I think after a series, you go back through the playoffs. You look at the things you did, well, things you didn't do well, and then you'll add onto what you, you think you need to work on. So I think some of those questions will be answered but to think about this team last year. There were seven seed. They lost in seven games. The Boston actually played very well in that series. They made a major step this year when your best players twenty four years old, and he's doing Jaanus impact on winning is been huge. And again, you have to give quite a lot of credit when they moved qui- onto Jaanus that created problems, but then also building walls in double teaming him getting the ball out of his hands that made it difficult for them. So I think to answer your question. Maybe they do have to add more offense to, to what they're doing. But also the thing. That made him. So successful all season long was the way they play. And so maybe they have to look at the playoffs and say okay, if we add this to what we're doing that'll make it better. But Janas his growth in his impact on winning in special to your point that you made earlier about the bucks. Not having that experience in the playoffs. Eight late game management coaching standpoint felt like if maybe he'd just are just called a time out to calm them down a little bit. Some of those moments it would have been better. Well, you just heard from one of the best coaches in the profession. Right. And he's not going to be critical of my Boone hose. I'm just a young assistant coach. Yeah. So I'm going to take. I'm going to take what he should have said and really put it into perspective in game five he panicked. Okay. He changed. His whole star in lineup. You bring in brogden you take out miratec from the starting lineup. And then now Chris Middleton is in. A difficult situation. Because now he only gets nine shot why? Because my Malcolm Brogdon is a guy who Schuster basketball. So I think he messed up in that respect perspective. But in game six he was up fifteen point two times in the second half and he took on us out of the game. I'm not taking out of the game to allow up thirty codes this is my game. Seven okay. I have to get this game back to Milwaukee in by any means necessary, if I have to play Janas forty eight minutes, I'm going to do it when I think, of that, well, a couple of things brogden started a good chunk of the season part of getting hurt. So obviously was going back to him because of the success that they had had with him. So you have to factor that into it the point about keeping you on the floor. That's something that probably they have to look at particularly when you're on the road, your margin errors lot smaller when, when he was off the floor. It made a big difference. So, but those are, you know, might moon holders greatcoat and so and the season they had was terrific. I think sometimes we look at whoever loses a series. And we say, oh, this guy was out coach. No. It's a maker Mitch leap. I mean you, you take a look at we talk about how great things are for Toronto. Philadelphia easily could have been in, in the conference finals and they could easily be in the finals. Yeah. So and so your point I'm just saying that it's a lot harder than it looks, you know, and then you also have limit for as to how many timeout, you can't call off and you're saving your time out Cousteau for mean. DJ and I are on the same side on this whole guys. Goes on. This is but he really did. I agree. He coached that game as though losing didn't mean their season was over. I don't care how fu- timeout you have you can't save them for the end of the game. I understand that it wound up being a three point game but I got completely away from them, they wound up playing the entire fourth quarter from behind when they had a fifteen and it's a fair point. But let me say this. So with Kawai big game experience. Yeah. And successful big game experience ship. It means it means a lot. And they're steps that you have to go through to understand that. All right. I've got to do some other stuff here. We're gonna come back to this world continue to gang up on tapes throughout the morning here. We're looking forward to that. But I got a couple of football notes, I wanna get in for you here on this Memorial Day as well. And they sort of start with that guy that's Lebanon bell. We all know he sat out all of last year in order winter free agency, healthy and get the kind of contract, he believed he deserved. And that got our Dan Glaviano thinking about other NFL players who might mimic bell. In the next few years forced to teams hand by sitting out in his article he talked about your Debbie on cloudy. Melvin gordon. Michael, Thomas among others, and so forth, this, let's bring in our general manager Mike Tannenbaum or delighted to see this morning, Mike among the current players looking at the situations mentioned in that article or just around the league, who do you think as a player, most likely to pull a Levy on, if you will. And possibly sit out some time agree of all the players you mentioned in that article, I would say, Michael Thomas wide receiver from the New Orleans Saints. Because at the end of the year, he's going to be an ugly strict creation, as well as drew Brees. And obviously they can't let drew Brees grow presumably Greece plays next year. So if they have to franchise, drew Brees, Michael Thomas is going to be an unrestricted free agent, not tag. I could see being well north of twenty million dollars a year and obviously oils can't let him go if he's still there. So I think all the players that could do Leon bell did a year ago to me would be Michael Thomas. You know, it's interesting. This conversation came up here on our set off. The the other day. And Jalen rose was telling me that he's been talking for a while on Jalen and Jacoby about the possibility that Zeke Elliot would be the next guy in that situation. And there are similarities with Zeke Elliot and Levy on Bill. Maybe the franchise has some hesitation about giving them a long term contract based on some off the field things, and that type of thing is equal Elliott, a play who could be in that circumstance agree. That's a really good point. Because when you look at what he's done for their offense in particular Dak Prescott deck Prescott has been a lot more productive as a play action passer the offense really runs through Elliott. He sits up there passing game. So I agree with that in terms of his value to that team won loss record production and offense all knows better when zeke's playing. So I think he has a lot of leverage and the cowboy offense really starts with them. Yeah. And if you're if you don't want to commit to him long-term, he's got two more years left under their control, and then they can franchise him. And at that point, that's when running back start running into that wool traditionally, and he has. A lot of mileage on him. So I see that being a very similar circumstance. What we saw with Levy on in Pittsburgh agree. That's a great point. And what they do is they have three more years to find his replacement. It's a little bit like with lady on bell James Connor, was the guy they drafted they developed, and then when Bill moved on they feel much better about James Caan, or so likewise, they do control Elliott for number of years. And then they could franchise him. So if I'm Dow's advise me time to try get his replacement, and let's see if maybe he turns a corner in terms of being more reliable off the field because we're talking about so much money here but he's such a valuable player to that offense. Well done, Michael check back with you later this morning. Well, we're just getting started on get up with you here on this Memorial Day. Still the com is the secret to Toronto success. Simply time management. We'll explain. Now tell you why it is actually terrible news for basketball fans and before there was Brady before there was bread. It was Bart. We will remember one of football icon, acc- quarterbacks as we continue on ESPN. Brought to you by carmax America's number one used car retailer and buy new coppertone, sport clear, cool protected. The game six on Saturday night with a little light candy and this was one of these kind of that's going to live forever. How about the selfishness by Larry? Larry was unsung hero in this series Toronto weapons. And then the portion the face honest, this, the exclamation point that sends the Toronto Raptors to the NBA finals for the first time in franchise history Jabber coming away, on this Memorial Day in five minutes. How exactly is it that the raptors got to this point in, why is it bad news for everyone else, we will remember and football legend, and we'll look ahead to the warriors after starting the NBA finals all that more, we roll on give it up on ESPN? We welcome you back to get up in the NBA finals are set after Leonard led the rappers to a game six win over the bucks. Saturday night, twenty seven points, seventeen boards and six points. Arana win to close out that series and six after losing the first two games. And let's talk a little bit about Kawai. Let's talk about time management and load management. He's averaging nearly thirty nine minutes per game in these playoffs and his regular season approach may very well benefactor and helping him do it. He sat out twenty two games missed his one way to put it. He missed. He sat out twenty two games fifteen of which we're attributed to load management earlier this year, Commissioner Adam silver address the idea of other players taking the kuwa- approach to the regular season. I don't think other players are going to want wanna copy because remember he missed almost miss higher last season. So I've you that very differently. That's not rest load management. That's recovery. I mean he was. Coming off, you know very serious, again, almost full season injuries. So that's something separate. But in terms of two game season. I think there's nothing magical about that number. We've been playing eighty two games since roughly the mid sixties. I think the bigger issue, putting aside the absolute link of the season is, is there a better way? Format wise to create a season. I think the issue is that in this day and age, you know, you've got to keep people interested. You got to keep people engaged, and it may be that if we're going to play a season that begins in mid October and goes roughly told me June. There's a better way of composing, the season as opposed to just shorten. So there are a lot of things that are on the table with that. But, but you will know anyone who has been watching me. You're listening to be for years knows this is one of my biggest concerns with basketball, and here's what I have to acknowledge here, I think the fact that played as little as he did this year as few games as did total this year. They managed his load as well as they did was a factor in this series. Look at his ability to guard Jaanus on one side of the floor and still lead his team on the offense inside of the floor. That is hard to do if you were warned down by long regular season. I see that being a concern. And so to me, this is terrible news. Because if it works I can't blame any team for doing it with their superstar, and that to me is very bad for the fans. So this to me is a challenge that Adam silver, and company will have to figure out how they're going to address because I do believe that load management is going to become more and more prevalent. And I get that this was a unique circumstance Koike coming off a series injury. But still, this, I think, is something. And Tom, I think it's something that. They need to really be concerned about. And I think Adam is addressing it. And he's also mentioned the possibility of going to a seventy five game schedule. I think we've already seen him take steps in terms of reducing the back to backs. And I think that's a big factor. I think when you look at the back of a guy like Kawai he sat out a lot of those games and I think it was smart on his behalf because he's coming back off of missing nearly an entire season. I think each player, you have to look at individually, but as far as of every team is concerned in terms of load management that's part of player care. So every team now employs sport, scientists athletic trainers, physical, therapists, and you can look at your schedule when it comes out, you have an idea when you're going to be hitting heavy parts of the schedule, and then you're going to look at that and say, okay, we're not gonna take a chance on risking injury. With the guy who may be Nick up or a guy who has an injury history and you probably going to sit those guys out, and I would guess all that was at stake for Toronto on both sides. I side in the Toronto Raptors side, that quite probably made the call most of the time as to when he was going to play not play like to Greenies point DJ. This isn't can't be good for the future of the NBA. No, it's not because stars drive the league and we need the stars out there as much as possible. And from a coaching perspective tips you can agree with this is that if those guys out there are not out there. You're possibility for winning goes way down in affect so many other things. So I think with Adam, and what he did with taking down the back of the bags four games in five nights doing away with some of those is going to help going forward. And I just hope that the stars of this league. Do not use this as a ploy going forward. Node manage, I agree. Look, I give out himself all the credit in the world. He is he has been sensational Commissioner, and in part because he gets out and. Front of these kinds of issues. And he's been talking about this. He was talking about it as early as I was talking about or anybody else. He recognizes this is a concern, but the reality of it is, this is the one sport where the players name goes above the marquee, right. This is like, if you're going to Broadway to see some big movie star was coming into play. Like you're going to see that person. If you don't see them, it doesn't matter how good the play is. You're gonna go home. Disappointed. And if you're the NBA you go see a basketball game that features make a team here. Mean anytime you want the Milwaukee Bucks and Janta compo- doesn't play. It could be triple overtime and end in one point, you're still going to go home disappointed. And that is what they have to figure out. I think you're hitting on something big there because it's not only the players your TV partners to lot. That's driving the league and then your fans your season ticket holders are paying to see these guys play. If someone doesn't play that takes away from the product and takes away from the league. So I think it's a big concern from from all sides. Do had must see TV the NBA finals starting Thursday night at nine eastern, six Pacific. That's on ABC the warriors taken onto Ronco game one coverage tips with MBA canton. That's at eight thirty. It can both be seen streaming live on ESPN and on TV. You can find it anywhere. Yesterday. The sports world was saddened to learn of the passing of a legend Packers quarterback Bart star died at the age of eighty five he was a player who's place in the game may be lost among some of today's generation of fans. But believe me when I tell you the guy your favorite player wanted to be when he grew up was Bart star star was a seventeenth round pick in nineteen fifty six. That is the latest hall of fame quarterback has ever been drafted. He won five NFL titles including into the first two Super Bowls with the Packers. It was the MVP and both of those games he finished his career with a nine one record in the postseason, which is the best record in playoff history. Is number. Fifteen is number fifteen is one of six numbers to be retired by the Packers you see some of the numbers, there on your screen and a little later this morning. I will do a personal remembrance of Bart Starr, and what his place in the game means to me and should mean to football fans everywhere. But there's someone who knows that way better than I ever could, and that is my longtime. Friend, Bill curry, and every time I ever traduced Bill, I always pointed out that he played for Don Shula invinci- Lombardi, and as a center, he snapped the ball to Johnny United's and Bart star. And I know Bill how close you were to Bart star. And so all I can offer on this morning or my condolences and my gratitude for coming on and sharing your remembrances on what I know is a difficult day. I'd like to just give you the floor. There's a generation of fans watching us right now. Who don't really know that much about Bart star what he was like as a player, what it was like as a man. What would you like them to know? There so much. And he was such a towering figure in my life, regardless of whether he ever threw a football or did anything on a gridiron because he was a dominant human being before he was an athlete. The day I reported to the Green Bay Packers. I was two weeks late because of the college all star game in those days, I was terrified I was the last round draft choice. They had twenty choices in those days, and that was a twentieth selection, and I'm talking to dinner not knowing if I'm going to be asked to sing or BF, I'm going to be ridiculed or people are going to throw things at me. And I'm walking into a room of men that had won two world championships when we're being called the greatest team in the history of, of the sport. And not knowing what to expect. And there was a presence that came along side me walking to dinner and attorney and gassed, it was bar star. And I said, Mr. Starr, he said, no bar bar. Don't do all that Mr. stuff. He invited me to go to church with cherry, his wife and him the next day and to have lunch at their home. And then he escorted me at eight dinner with me, and I didn't even know that was the beginning, and it never changed in the minute years that we remain first teammates, and friends. How Bill there's the personal side of the new so well. And then there's the great quarterback. And I just ran through a bunch of numbers. But numbers never do Justice. The truly great ones when you think of Bart Starr was football player as a quarterback what, what should young fans who know of Tom Brady and people like that. What should they know about how good a player Bart Starr was? But if you're a sports freaks like always was and. You should know that he was the quarterback for five world championships. But he did it in seven years that will never be repeated almost an impossible task and the system, the culture of Vince Lombardi and Forrest Gregg and Jimmy Taylor and Willie Davis and herb Adderley, those have been given justifiably a lot of credit for those victories. But what you don't see unless you study the films as the throws and catches that were made were unbelievable. The accuracy share percentage of completions at the times when it mattered most own, the big dries, Bart Starr, dominated football, you know, way that nobody else really ever will against four an era of seven years. Their playoff record was nine in one they lost the first they never lost another one correctly finish nine in one. A lot of postseason records that still stand to this day, and I'm glad that we're able to remember him together on this day and Bill. Let us through this again, under happier circumstances, and share some more stories, thank you so much to you and your family. And thank you for doing this, what I know is a very tough day for you. Thank you, same to you. The great Bill curry with us here on. We'll take a break. We'll come back with more from the NBA Kawhi, Leonard has proven that he is worthy investment. The raptors made as he also proving he's the best player in the game that debate. At the beach in the car just working around your house. We invite you to get up when it fits your schedule. Download the podcast on the ESPN app and on apple podcasts. Consecutive days. It. To the NBA finals historic, Golden State. Five say the distort NATO with that is kind of crazy. Think about switching play for this goal. And every year we know four wins defined your season. So gotta stay locked. The countdown began it's Thursday night for game one and Caesar's installed the warriors three to one favorite to win the championship. That's nothing new Golden State has been favored in twenty consecutive playoff series. That is the longest streak in the last thirty years, and I will like to address this next question to my good friend, Mr. Jones. See that alongside Miki here. I thought suggested yesterday and one of the many places I was reading about this, that this current addition of the Toronto Raptors is the best team that the warriors has faced have faced since they got Kevin Durant. What is your reaction because I enjoy being with you greedy and, and Laura I'm not gonna walk off this day. But in my mind, I'm thinking it because there's no way that this Toronto team is better than the team that we had in two thousand fifteen sixteen with LeBron James carry urban Kevin love. Right. And we had some, some guys coming off the bench style. Was really good too. So, but how about the in the period of time since they've had K D, which really only encompasses the last two finals that was one year of Kyrie. It was it was when I was still there the you in five that game three in Cleveland was a very close game team at a real chance to win that would've turned that entire series around, and you believe this Toronto team is better than that Cleveland team. No, I don't think so. And. When you had the best player in the world, and I know everybody says, I'm, I'm pro LeBrun about everything. But when you had about, but I'm the saying when you have the best player in the world and you have arguably the best one on one player in the game and cavalier and Kevin love whose twenty and teen every single night. I don't see another three guys. Let alone a team that's going to put up the type of numbers that we did in the finals against Golden State Houston, no tents. Like if you think about teams that, that the warriors have faced that have been really good. Even let team last year. I think we're supposed to be wanted to. That wasn't happening. No, no. As much as I hate to do this. I might have to agreement. DJ. But I would say Toronto is a loaded team. The west is a different animal Golden State's at different animal. Kawais special, like his impact on winning is similar to. I think when you look at Draymond and what he's done since he's gone into that, starting lineup with with Golden State. They've won seventy eight percent of their games. So his impact on winning his great. We can't overlook Steph in clay. What Steph is doing right now is just incredible. And clays defense is all but let's not get how good they are. Let's talk about the team that they're playing LeBron James had not left Cleveland, if he stays in Cleveland are the are the raptors in the finals. No. You can answer that question yourself. No, we don't even have to ask. This. Straight straight straight to the final out agree with four and Miami, four in Cleveland who was going to stop him. And that's why I think. My sil- jury made the gamble. Okay. You know what the bronze go? We a chance, get in here. I think that was a big part of his decision making. I think he recognized everyone was hearing the whispers that LeBron was leaving. And then he saw it as an opportunity. This is one last chance where we could go for it. Great calculated risk on his part, it's paying off. And we'll see where it ends up sports. We always referred it. What is being a game of inches? I think we have it. Right. Can you put the shot up there that heads to beat Philly and game seven of that series because you just think about you wanna talk about the ultimate example of something being a game of inches? How different is history of that doesn't go win. He makes this miracle shot. You've seen it a million times seven stops playing defense dozen and this ball, somehow goes if that doesn't that game's going overtime who knows what happened. Maybe already living in his house in Los Angeles. With the clippers the Lakers. And maybe we're sitting here having a conversation about is Joel Embiid the next great player. But Nash, what makes sports so grit? Don't look at it as at lessons or cheapens. It look at it as this is what makes it so great history is written by the winners. And in this case, the raptors got the right bounce of the ball. And here they are and the conversation today is the best player in the world. And is this the best team the warriors of ever faced? Greenie a great point because if Philly wins that series, you're right, choirs probably gone, and it's the same old Toronto Raptors yet, but you also have to give quiet lot of credit for the way he stepped up. He gave them a confidence that they had not had before and his belief in, in his ability to win. And he said this he said that, you know, the moments not too big for him because he's been there and he's done, it putting LeBron a different category. Because I know that you do is long. I know that you believe LeBron is the best player. In the world. Okay. Yeah. I watched them this morning, and Instagram shooting three point contest with a fourteen year old kid. He's doing other things. So until he comes back on the stage Kuweit right now the best player in the world. No, I haven't been my top three manifest. I have third LeBron. The Brandon Koi. No lebron. D kuwa-. Okay. Where was cou why before this series for you? With your top five he was on the cusp. He was number six. Okay yourself, greater after this series that moved him all the way three and I'll give you my top five right now. The bronze James, Kevin Durant Kawai, Leonard Steph curry James hard, put together a full screen and put out Instagram we'll get half tomorrow. I have about this guy's yesterday, Vanderbilt's Philip Clarke. We're going to go to college baseball here because this was fun a walk off single defeat. Ole miss crazy game been up at one point nine two one three thing all the way back. They are a favorite too. Win the college World Series. And this moment was special in Hoover, punching their ticket, but they were in great shape. But host, of course, in the NCA tournament will be making their fourteenth street appeared. So let's welcome in ruins my buddy ESPN analyst for college baseball. And let's start with vandy JJ day, one of the top prospects expected to go in the end all be draft. In fact, Marlins CEO Derek jeeter special adviser where hip Asada were in Hoover to watch Paul day play last week. And if you talk to his head coach Tim Corp in his wife Maggie they love today. What do you like about day? And how likely do you think the Marlins will pick him in next month's draft will great to see coach Rutledge? I would say that a day is that, you know, he's an athlete with strength. He had the perfect progression as a hitter. He started as a pure hit guy and grew into this elite power, you know, get a lead the country and home runs. And so here's the other thing, the Marlins are looking for foundational players. The day is a great person by all counts and there's pedigree with Vinny players. They've succeeded in major. League baseball. So there's nothing not to like about day and he really has blossomed into a star player in the star hitter. Yeah, you look at the big leagues vandy everywhere. David rice, Dante Swanson, the list goes on and on. Let's talk about the NCAA baseball tournament. Sixty fourteen field is announced today at noon eastern on ESPN, you will see their who's your favorite to win an Omaha will UCLA's got to be the favourite. They didn't lose a weekend series. They didn't lose a mid week game. You know, they have that, vintage west coast run prevention where they just suffocate you with pitching and defense. The difference this year is their unusually offensive. You know, they've got a first round pick in the freshman class, Matt McClain, that showed up and elite junior class, they can run they could hit for our. So, you know, UCLA is by far the most complete team. We have. But again, vandy is very scary. That's the best offense. We have in college baseball ruins plus plus stuff from you. Whereas college baseball there. The NCAA baseball tournament field revealed at noon eastern on ESPN you, thanks so much ruins. We continue on here and today we have our annual tripleheader Memorial Day. It's for you on ESPN the ESPN app. It starts with Marlins nationals at one PM eastern than Indians. Red Sox and finally dodgers hosting the Mets. It should as Wien Memorial Day on ESPN ESPN app, you can watch that anywhere coming up after being named the MVP of the last two NBA finals could Kevin Durant return actually derail the warriors quest for three repeat. We'll get to that next on get up.

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Knicks Fire Steve Mills, Ja Morant vs. Andre Iguodala, and Trade Deadline Preview | The Mismatch

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Knicks Fire Steve Mills, Ja Morant vs. Andre Iguodala, and Trade Deadline Preview | The Mismatch

"In today's episode of the mismatch is brought to you by Zorro shopping. For a business you'll find the supplies you need Zoro dot com that's Z.. Oh or OH DOT COM Zoro. You can get tool safety office. Items cleaning. Supplies and Bore in One Stop and Zorro has great brands. He's like Stanley. Black and decker prestone three M. and rubbermaid visit Zoro Dot Com Z. O. R. O.. DOT COM SLASH NBA and sign up for female to get fifteen percent on Zoro DOT com. All you need to make your business go Welcome to the ring. NBA Show. Chris Vernon join me. He does every Tuesday from the ringer. Dot Com Coming O'Connor Aka Kevin Obamacare Kevin O.. Concert Kevin Oh Candy Land Kevin O.. Conflict Kevin Opinionated Kevin O. Croissant Kevin O. Caucus Kevin Lot lot of drama and the and the media world the political world and the sports world after yesterday Bachelor Iowa Caucus and of course Andrew. Chris well and I watched another Andrei as I went to Grizzlies Pistons and it was a dud And so I missed the Bachelor I missed the Iowa caucus if you wanna comment on that later you came back that bachelor with great last night. I'll say that well he Andrea Guatemala's stuff off Got Going last night and I'll just Okay for everybody out there. Because obviously I've argued with some people on twitter about this and then I have seen all manner of comments about this situation. I I want to start off today. Show and let me just give you a little timeline here because there are a lot of things that get it repeated. That simply aren't true one of which is These I don't know why anybody making either side out to be a bad guy in all of this it was mutually elite agreed upon. Let let me just take you through a timeline. Okay I golden state dumps Andrea Granola. Okay they dump Andrea Agudelo at that moment. Obviously I'm like well. That'd be great right veteran a winner. Young guys could learn a lot from him. Andre Goodall makes it clear from the jump. He's he's not playing there he's not going to play in Memphis and in fact he's not going to come to training camp so for all of the everything thing is mutually agreed upon crowd. Allow me to take you to September ninth. Now this is way before the season Kevin you would agree right. This is way before the season Shamsher Rania sources memphis wants three time champion Andrea dollar to report to training camp and he and is refusing right now to engage in buyout which would prevent Igwe Dalla from finishing his hall of fame career on his terms. Because this may be his last. NBA Season Goodell is the vice president of the NBA. APA One of the League's most respected and desires a contender at this stage. So by September ninth he has them doing his bidding. The Grizzlies wanted him to come training. Camp he is not going to go to training camp he wants a buyout. He wants to go somewhere else now at this point. Andre doesn't want to give up one red cent in in order to achieve said buyout the grizzlies. Then say well rather than you come around here and be pissy and be mad that you're even having to play here because he already went in an interview and mocked Memphis and said I told my wife they'll probably trade me to memphis or some shit because owed the indignity of having to pay play for seventeen million dollars for some place it's LIKE MEMPHIS fine. We'll get a trade on the table until then just stay away his. Don't WanNa be here anyway. So there is your agreed upon understanding then As everyone leak out that he would go to the Lakers or he would go to the clippers. I would go to some of these teams if the grizzlies are to buy him out. So then the buyout thing becomes something that all of the media carrier-pigeons tweet out and at that point Memphis has to say. Hey we're not buying anybody out. Okay so then he goes on the jump and he starts talking about the other teams he be playing for and how he would fit in and then goups about getting paid to do nothing fast forward because it all dies down fast forward to last night It's all died down and he leaked out. I'll sit out for the rest of the season if I'm not traded to this team this team or this team so therefore attempting to sabotage a trade to anyone except for who he wants to play for and then again and the media carrier pigeons jump on board and they say man Memphis is really doing and what like. Somehow they have all been brainwashed into thinking memphis should pay him seventeen eighteen million dollars to play for another team because in most most of the time in bigger markets and media in bigger markets. They really have this feeling that small all market should just be feeder systems to the big market. And so this is what I would say they will. I'm sure If there's a trade on the table it will get done. If he doesn't call everybody everybody and then say because I'm sure a team that was going to trade for him is probably calling his agent being like look. Well he come here so Andrea Agudelo said he'll come there then a trade can get done otherwise you know maybe nothing gets done and I promise you this I promise you. If there's not a trade get done there is no chance now. They'll buy him mount none. He just won't play at all this season so I guess if that's all he wanted to play his hand. So be it Dillon Brooks then after the game last night has asked asked about it and he stands up for Memphis because I think all of the young guys on the team at the beginning you know he's got a roster spot he's frankly the highest paid guy on the whole roster and he's out here and I think at the beginning they were all like why doesn't he want to be a part of this like this is fun you know like almost like we live in a hurt feelings world now right everybody kind of you know like you saw. Everybody spent it in what he didn't make the skills and you know Jackson. Hayes doesn't make the rising stars and everybody gets their feelings feeling tired and I think it started out as that like. Why don't you want to play here? Like what's what's his problem. And then it turned into you know like what if this guy you know and that was what ends up happening where you know. Now Dillon Brooks attempts to stand up for. Hey Memphis ain't all that bad and so oh you can roll your eyes at Memphis all you want. And so he just kind of stand up for it and then there's turns into right John Moran getting involved than Steph Curry instagram photo of Andrea with trophy. Then John Moran comes back with an instagram photo of Kevin Durant rant with trophy so somehow this has become quite quite the thing did I miss anything. Give my only question is are we the NBA. It'd be a community spending too much time focusing on a thirty six year old. Who has been good for two years? He is a thirty six year old. That has a finals. MVP and so he is a you know by virtue playing on those teams. He's a big name of course and it's just fascinating case study in how people view the NBA this age of player Empower Min- all. That's that's more. It's not really about the individual player as as much as this is. Hey if you conduct yourself and your thoughtful and your Easy with your time you will. We'll get a pass on this. You just do you get a pass on. You can act any kind of way and try to decide wherever you WANNA go and somehow get people to pair it that the team is somehow doing you wrong which that is. That's the only thing I reacted too because I might get the f out of a year. And that's what touches on the more complex discussion that I've seen a handful of people touch on twitter this morning including our big boss. Bill Simmons Siemens Sam from light-years podcast Celtics Writer Danger Card Ryan Bernardino. There's been a handful of people out of hit this and that that's the bigger question. Should your contract being paid be tied to actually playing for the team right like we have good getting paid seven till seventeen million dollars dollars when he's sitting out the entire year and it's by choice ultimately whether it's something mutually agreed to or not as you said originally Memphis did want him to report but you know it's okay for your dollar to get paid when he's playing or or or when he's with team but he's you know waiting for trade to happen but it is it. Is it okay when he's getting paid when he's he's not playing for the team he's on TV doing other things. When he's outwardly and essentially through the media demanding a trade? Is that okay for the players. Get paid and that scenario. I don't know the answer is but it is the way it is now or a player can do that and for and for the NBA. I think the bigger question moving forward is sh- would the next. CBA should there be some type of revision for making contracts non-guaranteed when a guy's playing. I don't know it's complex complex. It would be very hard to get the players association and get to agree to anything like that. But it is fascinating considering a udalls place in the p. a. and and the fact that he is essentially using the leverage that he does have a leverage that almost anybody would would use if they had at the question is should that player. Have that Laverick. We'll look again. You can have the leverage all you want I. Only I only get riled up when I start art seeing this whole idea that like again. The first report was they wanted him to report to training camp and he wanted a buy wii out and they haven't engaged in a buyout and so this would prevent Igwe from finishing his hall of fame career on his terms. Be Like I mean. Should we be like everybody. Just get to do everything on their terms. I guess that's the answer right and so framed from the from the beginning that it's like a and so then when now it comes back up because it's trade deadline week right. It's not just I don't WANNA play in Memphis and so then it's agreed upon. Hey you're you're you're still getting your checks but just don't even come around because got a new coach. got a bunch of young players in this league. If you're going to be a coup veteran and help them and build up your stock I mean look we will find you a deal but you don't WanNa be a positive influence here fine and you'd be negative influence fine. Then just stay home right and we'll try to find a deal for but now it's like to the point where it's trade deadline week Kevin and he it's like all right. I don't want to buy a Memphis and the end I'm going to try to sabotage any deal. That's not to a place that I don't buy your ears a few places in the league that I'll play it's like oh Jeez dude come on right like that. I don't I don't understand that. I don't understand how anybody could be on the day. Should by him out or did he has been a victim at all in any of this and I promise you a player with a worse reputation people are looking at this and go and and what the hell. I'm like honestly just like I said he's thirty six years old and he hasn't been that good for two years and it's a it's a weird situation Asian but whatever team gets gets this player. I hope your expectations aren't super high for him. Considering his age considering he's been out the whole year you you hope can be a positive addition but there's no guarantees of that and to me. There's so many more interesting things happening across the league and it's a shame. Something with Eagle dollar has taken so so much. Focus away from the great things happening and the other rumors that are actually far more relevant to teams futures and far more relevant to the current playoff. Chase well happening. Let's let's talk about one with his former team because you know from the very beginning of this season and in fact from the time it was you know the Free Agency Agency deadline when Kevin Durant signed with Brooklyn and the de Ngelo Russell to golden state deal takes place I I have never let go and I've talked about it throughout this season of the initial Mark Stein report. which was Dan getting him to keep him? They're getting him so they get an asset in return for losing Kevin Durant and so this is asset acquisition. Because of course it's is not ideal with Steph and with With a with clay and Draymond when they come back given the type of player that he is and so it surfaces Mrs This week that the knicks pursuing de Ngelo Russell. Obviously that wolves thing is always out there and so I don't know if he will be the biggest name but it certainly another fascinating name because for a player of his talent. This'll be a lot of teams. Since it's already come in the league and do you think the next trade for him. I don't think the Knicks have enough to trade for him but I but I do think there is value in them. I am giving an unprotected unprotected first round pick same goes for the Minnesota Timberwolves because look with de lo. I love Mark Stein. Like I've I've heard similar that you know. Go and say. Dozen tend to trade him but I've also heard from from people within the organization and outside the organization that they look at D.. Low is a guy like like he just. He's just about to turn twenty four years old he's already a very good and very versus offensive player and considering how great he's been shooting off offscreen handoffs and cutting and doing all the other things off ball. He looks like a guy that can fit perfectly next to steph curry and Klay Thompson so golden state. I think their intentions are exactly. That's a give this a try and see what happens. And maybe if a great offer comes along you make that trade. But that's true for almost anybody in the lead. There's so few untouchable players and D.. Low is certainly not one of those guys but gold sake brought him in because they could they had an opportunity to get something in return for Katy which is why they gave up a pick in the deal as well but I don't know if they brought him on just the trade him six months later they intend to keep him but if a better decision is out there better move out there than a costs are going to do that. But that's true for any team that drafts any player signs and he player trades for any player Delos different than anybody else and I think viewing viewing it in that way is a bit silly me and my is just because of the fact that goal and say the the way they got him with so unusual it shouldn't change the fact that he's no different than any other player. Would that said for Golden State State Right now and I reported yesterday that Minnesota has been trying to get three way deals together to make trae now for de Ngelo Russell but golden state thus as far has said no to every offer including multiple first round picks and salary filler forty low. And there's good reason for that because de Hello. This season is even better than he was during his all star year last season. I just said how he's been so good shooting off screens handoffs and cuts but he still has also that very very good high level playmaker in score in pick and roll situations. So it's right for a team like Minnesota to be after him now. It's right for the next to be going going hard after him now. These teams should be going after yellow for the same reasons. Gold State is right to want to keep him and see how he performs next to Seth Curry. Because it's it's not often that any team is going to have a twenty four year old point guard. That's averaging twenty four points per game on ten threes three point attempts per game shooting thirty eight eight percent from three averaging six assess. He's a really good player. Really good and all these teams should want him including all State Warriors. I think it's a bit silly to assume they should trade him. I think it's a bit silly to make fun of the wolves or next for wanting to trade so much for him. Deal is a very likeable player. That team should want. Oh No I think he's a good player. I don't think I think there is a better use of that money to fit around to build the team around Steph clay and dream on. That's where I stand right there. Is there for what who there there are wetter whom it than that. I would use that money for a collection of depth. That's what I would I would look at it and I would take take my title. Chances are going to be finite like I got. I'll have a couple more year run with this. I get step back Klay Back Draymond back that that team. It does not have depth kef and so I would rather use the twenty million dollars or whatever it will be even more than that actually In order to build the requisite depth that I am going to need around those guys to be able to deal when somebody inevitably has to miss ten games and also to fill in the gaps Role wise around them. That's what I would say that Another guy that keeps the ball moving. I've got I'm going to score and and the ball. I want the ball and Steph curry hands and I want him running things and obviously I got Thompson at the two guard running off the ball. I need to find me a small small forward. That's a great fit with their the Pairs and Barnes K. D. replacement. That's what I would use it so in other words you would rather have an. I'm not saying this deal exactly quake. But let's say the Knicks were offer two first round picks including their own twenty twenty unprotected and future pick with nil. AKINA and Bobby Portis and other other. Maybe Kevin Knox's and that deal to. You'd rather have like a injection of youth that could turn into depth for your. He added low cost. Yeah but I'd rather attain good players than what you said. Okay here's the thing. Here's the thing thing. Where's that deal? Where's the deal? Everything I just said about De Ngelo. Russell is true but also there's not a lot of teams that would be treating waiting for a guard right now. There's so many so many teams have guards the draft even though it stinks has a lot of guards that P. teams that need a guard I would rather just draft often investment in a lower cost. There's not a lot of options out there for goals saints trade deal. Oh to that. We're thinking about right now and for them. I just think I have a hard hard time imagining finding a better guy that can fit in compliment steph curry and Klay Thompson. In a way he does what Andrea Dolla Allah and Shaun Livingston did for years on the offensive end. Of course he is nowhere close to what those guys were on the defensive end obviously however on the offense event he's far superior and I and I think about if you're having that back court with staff clay indeed low or you pull one of those guys off if you have a D- Low clay. Hey back court when Steph is off the court or you roll with staff Andy Low and clay as off dealer can take on more shooting responsibilities or you can take on more of the playmaking making responsibility. He's an ideal fit on the offensive end. It's just a matter of the defense but if you get better guy who's better on. Defenses outweigh the gains. That he brings on offense. I'm not so sure about that. I think I think de la has been severely underrated as a player going back to last season with Brooklyn because everybody talked talked about him. Is this ball dominant. arly ball hog player but that was anything but the case you know he for years in La he had changing situations in Brooklyn he emerges as an all star ball. Domino's guy who is a great. Oh wait wait wait. We forget what he was at Ohio State and and that was a guy who played on and off the ball and finally this year. He's shown that ability again in terms of how to fit a basketball team together. Yeah they were just disagree terrain I get it. You love the Ngelo Russell. You'd think he's amazing. I just don't think that with clay and staff. It's a great fit that's it would you. Would you rather let's let's say Minnesota offered you Andrew Wiggins with what are right so I'm not. I'm Jay Gordy Orgy Jiang come on it. Look there are always deals that are out there. If you want me to get specific and go through the entire League of a team that needs a guard that would be able to make a move. Look you just saw deal this past summer with a former Ohio state point guard. Mike Conley and you got Jae crowder. You Got Kyle Korver you got Grayson Allen you've got a first round pick and you've got role players and a high pick and I do think that that is and maybe they're not stars in return but you you could look around the league and maybe you would be able to put together three or four guys that can play in my eight-man rotation that I think are more ideal fits when you have a back court of stay steph curry and Klay Thompson does it. I also think that that is not good enough defensively. I don't think offense is going to be their problem home when they have steph curry and Klay Thompson draymond green and two other guys. That can be pretty good right. And we have seen those Harrison Barnes Lawrence type players in the past and then it got accentuated when it was Kevin Durant I want another great wing if I am spending that amount of money. That's it and I and I don't think it's good enough defensively and I don't think it's an ideal fit offensively. This is just about team building and how I view what your team should look like and where your money is put. They don't have enough good players. They don't have enough good players. They've lost all their depth their benches horrendous. And you know you're just trying to piecemeal it together and I'd rather have you know a solid wing player that I could stick in there and three or four more guys for a seven eight-man on rotation. That's all I would do. I don't know if Glen Robinson is that guy but I will say no no his emergence. This year has an impressive shooting forty percent from three avenue. Thirteen points per game. Averaging playing solid individual Defense Glen Robinson has been a pretty good role player for them and at one point it seemed like teams James Other Teams Viewed Robinson Alec Burks as equals if anything some teams preferred Alec burks but Robinson has played his way and only twenty six year old at only twenty six into being a guy that maybe goal and say views as being yeah a lower cost role player on their roster regardless of what happens with a D Lo and he's one of those guys where you look at their top five or six or seven rotation. He's a part of that and Eric Paschal of courses a rookie. Even though he hasn't been quite As good in recent weeks he was compared to how he was the beginning of the season. He also as a rookie. Just at twenty twenty three years old has been solid but as a rookie I think with Golden State. There should be no rush here and Flipping D. low for just a bunch of role players and picks in a shitty draft. The twenty twenty drafts thinks thinks it stinks and for Russell. I just think it's a misuse of his talent. And and it's underrates his upside with what he can even be as he continues to improve alongside superior players and Steph Curry and Klay Thompson when you do have a couple of solid solid young role players on your team already and moving forward you can use exceptions maybe to pick somebody else up through free agency I to me I think Golden State is in the right to demand a ton for do and I think we collectively also need to look at Minnesota and New York and say maybe you should be willing to protect your first round picks in an offer for this player. Maybe you should be willing to give more than has been I mean I think we always thought like maybe the the Alan cramping was for that right to get that eighteen million so if you pair together right you unprotected and then throw crab in Covington and you know maybe. He can't package crab with other players though he hit. You can't be aggregated with anybody else. He can't know. And what was that deal. That was I guess. Everybody immediately the reaction to that deal was. That's for something else. I mean it might be you. We can still flip him individually right I mean can I get something I mean. I've got to put the. Obviously I need that thing unprotected. And I've got to get to the money but support Boy I dunno let me COVINGTON's role player that everybody loves. I know you love. I don't know you don't know you anymore. We used to. I don't in Philly. I can't recall. I can't recall the time I ever loved. Covington he's a solid player. It's good player. Not a great player. Good player saw I mean in Houston or another team were able to trade for Covington that be a positive addition and speaking of Houston. Now what what are your thoughts on the idea of them flipping close cappella and adding another wing slash Ford and Robert Cummington and finding a cheaper lower costs center. Or and I'm thinking about guys like maybe an Alex Len if you would've trade TRADE CAPELLA TO ATLANTA. Or maybe an NS Kanter if you were to trade him to Boston or maybe you pick up a guy who gets bought out like an alien mckanie. What are your thoughts on the logic behind that for Houston if they were to pull off okay so first things first? I- I talked to a lot of my buddies that have covered the the rockets down down there and most recently Tim Man from ESPN. While I was talking to him he said this guy boy he he gets madder than Hell when anybody what he brings up the idea that he's you know cheap or that he's on a budget right. This the for Tita You obviously the whole stuff happened with the Tony. And He's Been Kinda coaching this. Lame Duck season. And now you see that people are saying you know hey get under the luxury tax so this spring because it brings up the whole. Hey if there is is a time that you know again. You don't have a massive amount of time. There's a time to build around James Harden its these prime years to take a run at it and this. This shouldn't be the time where you really worried about money. But that's a whole nother subject. That is really a joke. If that's the case and there's a lot of milk there's a lot about that every and everybody brings it up and when it gets brought up the guy gets matter now that you bring it up. I've heard the same and I. It's really Elliott joke. If that is the case though will be seen as a chance to win at all they have a chance to look if you've got the best offensive player in the League. This is the time to back up the brinks and build around him. Because yes you do have a chance at winning a title. I do think that replacement That what percentage of the Capella numbers can you get by findings of seen a lot of teams. Just let's be fine with the replacement level Guy It's all year long. Remember that having lower cost centers well and you know we had like we saw this just just for point of reference we saw this name was like out of the League practically right and you remember he came in and he was like getting like sixteen and ten every tonight news. Just like you said the screen go to the basket finished the lob right Ed so can you do that And I I if there's guys that can do it then you sit there and you go. Well there's better use for the money that we have spent on Clinton Cappella than him playing center right now. But I I don't know CAV- have I. This is what I think I look at it and I say all right I always try to view things through the prism of who am I going to have to play against when I get to the playoffs and is replacement level center going to be good enough. Because I'M GONNA need Capella to go up against Dwight Howard. Anythi Davis and yes. The clippers are a little bit smaller but Denver Has Yokich and Utah has is Rudy Gobert. Dallas they just did the cheap thing and went with Willie Cauley Stein Oklahoma City Stephen Adams like I. I don't know who I'm going to have to be playing against against but I do find that we could look and they move Capella and then we sit there and go. Oh my God. They're bigs aren't good enough there. Just getting absolutely absolutely torched on the boards given up all manner of offensive rebounds. And I don't know in that's possible but that's the risk you take and I think for Houston areas quite a bit of logic in flipping cappella. If you're able to get Covington because of the fact that maybe you can then make a subsequent trade for someone like an errand beans means or maybe an ED DAVIS FROM UTAH. Two guys that are available. Maybe he does get bought out granted. He's not that good anymore but he still a body. And maybe with your Houston. You're looking at your roster and you're looking at how you're gonNA play an all you can do. Is Control what you can control hair. If you're planning on playing with smaller lineups with Tucker at the five a lot in the playoffs. Maybe it makes more sense to add another sturdy wing in Robert Covington or somebody else maybe Markeith Morris another guy who's available and I've heard he soon as interested in. Maybe that's the plan. Just get a lower cost center. Who can play fifteen minutes for you ten minutes? That's for you in some matchups but for the rest of the game you have plenty of bodies and guys that allow you to play with your tallest guy being six eight six nine but still a strong body thirty who can at least handle a post up and maybe with a little help from somebody on the wing or somebody from from the wing area at to help double team that that center whether it's a Yokich or an eighty or somebody else or maybe if you're Houston you're cool with those guys posting up against single coverage. Maybe that's what you want so I can understand Dan logic here for Houston. I don't think it's the posting up as much as it is the the rebounding right that opportunity. Yeah I get it everybody. Everybody needs a bunch of threes. But when you when you get into the situation where when you miss they get the ball and when they missed they get the ball. Now you got a problem the right and so. I would be a little worried about that because I do think there are some very formidable big guys that you are going to have to deal with that. You can't just completely play off the court. They're good enough that they're not getting played off the court. But in fairness there were times where Cappella got played off the Court of course and that's part of it as well now with Cappella bare setting fewer on ball screens and pick and roll than this season. They than they have been in pastures. And you know that's partially harshly because teams are switching screen so often against them that it becomes. You know irrelevant to do that But that's that is something to just watch for moving forward because that does diminish not just what Capella is on defense when teams might be playing off the court but on the offensive end at neutralizes or rather I I should say minimizes has value for that team with what they used to do compared to what they do now one hundred percent darryl is going to be involved in the trade deadline he he. Can't you know not be evolved The mosquitoes look at the western conference right now. And give me a team that you are. You're most fascinated by what they will do at destroyed deadline outside of Houston because we covered that. Yeah I was GONNA say it because of because of what what What they were in the past Shit essentially almost leading the league on ball screen gets very fascinating? I I really really do calve because you know like the way. This is played out standings wise the week of the trade deadline. You've got the blazers the the Spurs and the Pelicans they're all right there and fighting with each other. So what do they WANNA augment. And then I was going to say Denver Jit because they've got the it is my other team. Yeah Yeah Okay. Then we agree on this. I mean they got two guys that are restricted in Maly Beasley and and Watch o'hearn Gomez Right. They've got this plethora of like kind of like guys in Will Barton Gary Harris. They're all different but what they're right. They're all kind of in there to guard right Joel. Murray Gary Harris Will Barton They got that and then they got a beasley and then they got Wacho. Hernan Gomez this porter thing you know. He's really flourished as of the last month. And so you know if your Denver I think I think you go for it. I do. I think you go for it and he tried to make this team even better Because you've got this little window here. Whereas before the clippers and Lakers really find their bearings going forward Denver's another team that I've heard has entrusted Markeith Morris? Boris from Detroit For for them. You know Denver course a team. That's after jrue holiday I don't know How willing are you to give future? First round picks for him. How much of an upgrade is over? What Gary Harris was at his best last last year in the playoffs? Maybe not significant enough to give up a lot of equity moving forward however with how Gary Harris has performed this regular season which has has been poor. It's a significant upgrade. And you have an opportunity here to do something very special in the postseason. I think they should be aggressive in their offers to New Orleans for for holiday Bus Far my understanding is that Miami and Denver two of the teams that are after drew holiday. Haven't offered anything that's close to acceptable for the PELICANS. Yeah I'm glad you mentioned Miami. All right so let's let's stay on Denver Real quick if you're Denver is the drew holiday. Okay type deal. Is that the one you sit back and say all right. If I'm Denver. What do I need? What do I need? I know going into this right playoffs. I'm probably GonNa have homecourt advantage. What do I need? If I'm going to play against Clippers Lakers we assume that those teams are going to be right up there too. What I do I need to be better the rest of the season and to be better equipped to win a playoff series? I mean I think finding another wing whether it's a Covington or Morris like I mentioned and I think that would make sense for them besides the big blockbuster for holiday holiday thing I just feel like I could give the ball to drew holiday. I'm not trying to overrate him. But I do feel like you know. It's playoff time and it's I need a bucket time I mean he's got the ball in his hand. Yeah I think he can go. Get me a bucket you know. I think they could use that kind of dynamic scoring and I know that Marie had his moments and he's still young. But you know that these come down to the end of these games. It's typically the perimeter guys and my best perimeter guy versus your best perimeter guy. It's usually not the bigs that are deciding. This stuff is good as Yokich is and so my best perimeter guy being drew holiday. I think is an upgrade. Great to what I've got now. Well and that's that's so interesting for all these teams here you. If if New Orleans is indeed fully willing into trade through holiday if you're one of these contending teams that has the right pieces to make a stronger offer for holiday. You should be going hard after him because of what. He is a player. One of the best defensive players in the perimeter at the guard position but also a guy could play on ball and off ball for you an unselfish player who doesn't need need the ball in his hands on the offensive end as well. He's not one of those guys who who might fall asleep or lose intensity when he's off ball he in fact he prefers to be one of those those guys who shares the ball which makes perfect sense for Denver but on the flip side of that the question then is well. Then why would New Orleans WanNA trade jrue holiday. Hey when he is a very good player and he isn't selfish but I think for New Orleans it's only right that they at least explore this because of the fact that he turns thirty this summer he is a bit older than their younger core. And he'll be in his mid thirties. You know or maybe maybe only young thirties thirties by the team. By the time Zay on the Ingram and Lonzo and this core ready to actually compete deep in the playoffs and make some sense to flip him and try to get a lot for any year where the title window is open for multiple teams to try to leap through so I think for New Orleans. It's smart to at least explore things but whether a deal that's good enough to take now I don't know this could be the type of thing that waits until the summer. The other thing is you know when I was talking about the standings I think might have changed outlook on on this. Let's flip to the east. You know that Milwaukee is just had this stunningly great season but now you look up and Toronto. After winning eleven in a row is is in that game half up on Boston and so you look at Boston. WHO's three you look at Miami who's four I don't know about Indiana? They're kind of just getting older depot back in the mix so Obviously that should help them going forward. Though they've lost the last couple of Games phillies on this three game losing streak. We know they're going to go out out and try to find. Shooting Philly was awful. They're gonNA try to find. They're going to try to find shooting. Let me ask about baby. Naming to Boston's Austin's name came up with the Capella stuff. Miami's name has come up with the The igwe Dallas stuff. Also the drew holiday stuff. You Know Boston Boston does do you think that they go in. And get that big and if you do you make trade. If you're Boston Capella. Probably they do nothing. The look this has been a running theme of our show all year. We talk about the success of teams playing lower costs bigs and you have Daniel. Daniel tastes at five billion. Dollars has been very good for your team. He is not better in a vacuum cappella. And I think Capella if you're able to trade Langford and KANTER and an poor. EA and combine those players and get Capella for a low cost than that would be great for Boston. But if you need to give up you know I have a lot more than than that That then then then were maybe thinking about not doing that trade. If you're the Celtics would would that said though I think you're looking at the east you mentioned earlier the amount of big you might have to go through in the West while the same logic applies to the eastern conference to you have to face ace Yonathan Kubo you have to face mark the soul you have to have a matchup against a miles Turner and Democracy Bonus Joel Embiid. I think for Boston Daniel Thais even though Bassem played exceptionally well against Joel embiid in their last match up and be killed them in the first two. And I think having a bigger sturdier body like Clint's Cappella would make logical sense to add depending on the costs with with what you're gaming if you're giving one first round draft pick with those those names that I mentioned then that would make some sense. I think Capella could be nice for that team. Would you give up the Memphis pick Yeah sure I think so. I wouldn't be super for enthusiastic about I think if a Boston. Obviously rather give up your own first-round pick By because with the Memphis pig the fact that they're already so good the fact that that that that would at best you know. Turn into a unprotected next year when Memphis would still probably be very very competitive. You don't want to give up that pick though because of how good the West is you'd rather get off your but I think it would have to be in the trade to make something happen. Yeah and the other thing is with all the other teams Miami right and their name has come up and you know Pat Riley. This guy is always you know. Got An eye towards the title right. He is he he playing to make playoffs And so he's got Jimmy Butler. They've had a very good season So far at thirty four and fifteen eighteen and so trying to figure out what they're willing to move in order to bolster their team. Because I mean you look at it right now and maybe people don't have the proper respect for defending Champ Toronto but when that's the two seed you sit there and you say you know what we could. We could absolutely absolutely find ourselves in the Eastern Conference finals this year right and so absolutely could right. Yeah and so I- It'll be interesting getting to see you know they're not moving Bam a bio and you wonder what else you know that they would be moving around in order to bolster their eighteen thinking that they've got a chance that may maybe we could look up and be in the NBA finals. This year I think you know you're talking specifically about drew holiday here the asset that they would want to give up an deal is probably Kendrick. Nunn they don't WanNa move tyler hero the other guy that maybe would have some value. Is Duncan Robinson. But what if what if what if they say I don't I don't I don't want none. I don't want Robbins in. If you WanNa talk you gotta come off hero. That's tough with his shooting ability being being as good as it is. He's such a perfect fit guys on that roster but also drew holidays so damn good. It's it's it's it's a it's a tough right because all of a sudden look we know this it depends on your timeline. Right depends on your time line. There's no question. Drew Holiday would make you a more or formidable opponent in the playoffs. This season you know. And it's not like he's one hundred years old. Yeah right so I mean I probably got three four years of holiday. You know being good for me now depends depends on it depends on what you think. The ceiling is for Harrow. Harrow ever an all star may really like him there. You think he's ever an all star could be. I mean I. I don't I don't like those questions because it's like it's so hard to say how. How many other better players are there than him? I'm in his conference. Who is the more popular player? That's voted ahead of him. I mean all star vote is is tough all NBA all NBA would say no all star. I don't know yeah. This is only fifteen guys make all. NBA He's never going to be one of the top fifteen players a bit in the whole league. But I I would. I would sit in. I think long and hard because how many great years of Jimmy Butler do I have. You know it feels like holiday. He fits the Butler time. Line Right. Yep and it's funny because I got mocked to hell when I said I would make a deal for Chris Paul if I were them in the in the preseason is that look so dumb now man if they they have. They've gotten by just fine with point but if they had this when that came up if they had this Chris Paul would that team this team. They've got right now. Does not have a shot at the title. They've got to augment not have a shot now why why why. Why don't they ever shot the teams not winning a title? Why don't they have a shot? Because they're not good enough Why are they getting enough? I think they have one of the more dynamic defenses in the basketball the way the way that utilize zone defense is innovative and smart. They are a spectacular defensive team and then on offense they have so many ways that they play play so many ways that they facilitate the ball through their offense. They're dynamic on both ends of the floor. They have great coaching. They have a guy who can score and create for others at the end of the clock. and Jimmy Taylor. Why can't they? I don't think that they are as good as Philly when they have. 'em beat healthy. I do not think they are as good as the books they would be in a dogfight versus the raptors and the Celtics. And so the fact that I can't confidently pick them if you put those teams in a series you you know. I love Jimmy Bucket but if you put those teams in a series there is not one of them I would confidently pick the heat in I wouldn't confidently pick them against the Pacers right now. I mean I learned. I'm saying the only thing I would call picking my meds Milwaukee Tronto Boston Miami. Indiana Philadelphia are packed. That's pretty closely together. In terms of my confidence level teams can can do an but in the seven game series. I wouldn't rule them out against Milwaukee I wouldn't rule them out or they could win it. They're they're not talking about like Brooklyn hair or Orlando the other two Eastern Conference playoff teams. I think there's a chance let's hear I might not be a great chance but there's a chance. This is a really really good team. They are agree with you. There are really really good team. Great Team's win the title and I don't think they're a great team and they could be It would take some augmentation in order for them to be a great team. That's where I stand on them and then they could get their look Pat Riley pulled off the miraculous before and I know that they do have an eye toward free as he got breaking news. Let's hear woge in New York has parting ways with President. Steve Mills League source tells. ESPN before the deadline. They're like you ain't half in this up anymore. I said you are not screwing this A. He probably walked in with all the Tracy wanted to do and they were like. Just leave tired. Are you out of your mind. So tasty Scott Perry has taken over basketball operations in New York according to Shaam Shahrani Danica. This is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Why two days before the deadline? If you thought that he wasn't good enough enough to run your organization which he clearly is not. Why are you waiting until two days before the deadline and all the work has been done in the phone? Phone calls have been made. Theoretically you've been on the phone and now you're forty eight hours from the deadline. I'm serious maybe it was one of those they're not screwing this up anymore. Or maybe I'm not getting like he came to them and they were talking about stuff and he's like Oh just forget it. Just go home Steve. They walked in in all right guys on the phone for the last forty eight hours. Here's the deals I've got and they said. Just go home Steve. You're fired. I guess for Knicks Fans congrats Knicks. Fan Listening congrats. Yeah I mean th they celebrate your victory today but tomorrow your roster and you're still like Geez this is just. This is so knicks wchs. It's such a niche thing to do and I hate that because there are so many knicks fans I really like and I want. What's best for you but dammit I mean this? These kind kind of days like Thursday. Have these can be massive days for the future of your franchise and the guy that you have entrusted with said future of your franchise. Did you just say forty eight hours before and now not you. That is goofy or naugatuck. Steve Mills State Miller should have been fired after if a frigging wrote an apology. Day After Free Agency is now maybe that was a dull and thing to have him do but they eh goofy press conference earlier in the year and I don't think there's anybody out there going. Why why on Earth would you fire? Steve Mills why wouldn't you but why. Why would you do it now? Two days before the deadline. Why didn't you get somebody in there? That knew what they were doing a while back. And now you're going to have a new guy with a new vision and I guess they just need Perry there so you know they got somebody that can feel phone calls until perhaps summertime if they go for somebody else will say well. You know who I'd go after and it's not the one you think I'm GonNa say me no grief you your opinion of Milky Rules you out. I always give to the Max. I know you would go after. It's it's not massage I would. I would use that same vault of cash that I think. I I bring back Phil Jackson. No I would hire Darrell Darrell. They're also good option. I mean you just. We just talked about earlier. What's going on with that owner there and he got the whole Dantonio thing? And then you've had the you know if the Westbrook carden thing you know if they you know spontaneously combust in the playoffs and I I could just see that you know and obviously now what might be fascinating. You might not be able to because of the China stuff that I do wonder right when that old cap comes out. That's going to become a thing again. And the money's less and like so it wasn't as significant as I know but but it will it is when you're talking about percentage of cap for those guys that signed extensions last last year the Jamal Murray's and the Ben Simmons and whatever like it does affect that that is real money. The Messiah stuff is started again already you know as has been consistently reported just tweeted again makes owner Jim Dolan Targeting Toronto President Messiah Jerry to ultimately oversee. New York's Operations League sources tell US beyond Masai Jerry is under contract through twenty twenty twenty twenty one in Toronto and this is true. I I have also heard for quite a while now as others that you Jiri is who wants granted. Toronto is in an unbelievable position right now with a young roster. They're winning winning a lot of games for by this would be an opportunity to bring his other things that he does off the court basketball without Borders the international national basketball operations that he has this is a way for him to grow what he does around the world having a platform like New York. And it's just a new project. I mean Messiah Already Accomplished winning a championship would the Toronto Raptors if you can go to New York and turn this thing around bear and bring star players to the Knicks and make this team great. That'll be a project that I think somebody like Jerry who is driven and wants to succeed at the highest it would want to do. We'll see if the knicks it'd be willing to give up assets to Toronto for him and we'll see you. Jerry would actually want to take that job. But it's not it's not unfathomable Kevin Wall for that position to be appealing to Masai last thing You wrote on the ringer about Cappella. And I'm just going back to him because he's the biggest name mm out there and one of the things is. The hawks. Remain the most likely destination for Capella. which would lead to a whole different set of possibilities? I just wanted to expand on that real quick on the the whole because we're thinking about Houston and what they've got maybe moving off Cappella and what. What kind of package would you envision? If the Hawks do go after Capella I mean that would be more like a three way scenario. Where a pick would be going to Minnesota Capello will be going to Atlanta now? You think he's a good fit with Holland with Collins. Perhaps no By Collins Collins has been a bit better defensively than his reputation would suggest tests and he can shoot threes and he can roll to me. It would be worth trying I. I don't see why why there'd be such a rush for Atlanta to trade collins. Now he does want a lot a lot of money but rightfully so because of his talents on the offensive end of the floor But for Atlanta maybe at some point it would make more sense to flip him and then bring in Capella but I think both could good work. It's worth experimenting with. You're not winning games now. Now's the time to get funky and see what can work all right last thing because the last time we're going to talk until we recap the trade deadline the biggest name you think is moved by Thursday and you can go off the board the biggest. NBA Name that has moved. I'm GONNA go conservative. -servative say Robert Covington. Oh my God what. He's the biggest name of five biggest. They might be under rebel of them. Biggest name Canola finals. MVP Wow I say de Ngelo Russell. I don't think he gets moves will say we don't think drew holiday. I Dole out a bigger name than the Angelo. I think Russell's probably bigger name because it also markets he's played in right. Yep Yep Kevin. This is going to be a fun week for for certain. I'll talk to you recap the whole thing on Friday. I'm excited and also just WanNa wish a happy sixty six birthday to my dad. Wow really league. That's unbelievable phase a good day. That's awesome sixty six years old. We'll happy birthday to Mr O'Connor O'Connor that's great. Thank you Kevin. I'll talk to you on Friday. Have a go on Chris. Basis to Bobby Wagner for producing another episode of the mismatch of your hearings will give us a rating on review on I two five stars. Five stars really helps and we will talk to you on Friday

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The Sedano Show HR 1: RELAX

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The Sedano Show HR 1: RELAX

"Hey what's up. It's feels like it's been forever because it probably has but it's great to be here again. Curtis are you guys forgot what she looked like. I no I. I didn't forget I saw you on. TV like every other night. Well that's true so thank you. I appreciate that you like Brian Cabinets cages. Lying right now. Actually what what what I'm not here. I've been tuning even watching. You're not watching any sports. I don't blame you to be honest. It's funny I don't watch sports when I'm not working either. The first thing I'll do tonight is watch. HBO THAT'S I catch up on H. B. O.. Shows on Friday. I decided to watch the Irish with my time yesterday. So it's like there's other things that like that's commitment right there three hours and thirty minutes. It's funny I have had to cross country flights in the last two weeks and I've yet to attempt to try to watch that. Now now the most recent trip back I was doing a super bowl feature for ESPN. And I was flying back during Zion's first game so there's no way I was watching it then but yeah I've had some securities offered something mixed reviews that I'm like it's Kinda like the clippers. There was a lot of hype. And you know it hasn't lived up to the hype right now. At least that to this point that could change but at least right now. That's what it feels like the Irishman like if we were assigning team to the Irishman. It would be the clippers right. Now you think wow look at that line cast looking at start. The beginning of the movie right heard the beginning of the movie is good. It just gets to a point where you're like. This is still on kind of drags a a little bit halfway through right which is exactly what's happening to the clippers season right now. It is dragging though they are in a competitive match with Miami but man they have been beating up Miami emme physically. They are the one of their guys. Patrick Patterson got a A flagrant because he basically chokehold to Joe's junior and he now Patrick Patterson again again has taken Alabama and a bio. WHO's an all star probably in mid-flight cheating clippers? Sup with that I mean I. I'm not a big fan of now. Granted that's the team I grew for but I'm also not a big fan of the midflight. Take down down like come on. You're like you're completely defenseless in that situation. You know this isn't football you don't have pads. Yeah even though those hitting the receivers of the middle are pretty brutal. Yeah well helmet-to-helmet right. I get it you know what I'm saying but I like in college football. I hate the targeting rule. It's punitive it's silly but yeah like there needs to be more or like Patrick Patterson I guess he they didn't call it a flagrant all right so anyway. But this clipper team team is in some trouble. I feel like there's a lot of drama. Surrounding this clipper team right. Now and the Lakers okay. A little blip on the radar against the Boston Celtics Celtics or whatever. But are you really going to complain. I understand they're the rival. But are we really going to sit here and complain about the Lakers season. Thus far now. That's not to say that there aren't things that you can sit here and say all right then you not great here. This person isn't playing that well. I'm not talking about the micro but just the big picture. The macro air should be zero complaints about the Lakers. Right now the one seed in the western conference like you can't complaining about the Lakers. Jessie are you. I mean it's I wouldn't say complaining but you can't eat has got to look things always something that they can improve on. Shore are and I'm with you on that but again. That is a micro view of the Lakers. I'm talking big picture like if I told you today. What is the Lakers schedule? I mean schedule record right now. There were like what thirty six and six believe something crazy like that right. If I told you that the Lakers were thirty six in whatever at this stage of the season you take take that take that to the bank and cash it exactly. That's all I'm saying like we need to kind of just slow down a little bit with what's going on with the Lakers. I I understand that the championship that that's you want. You want a championship campionships. You know there are thirty six nine but if I told you thirty six and nine back in September you'd be pretty good with that second best record in the in the league. Everyone would take that anyone who wouldn't take that for sure. So that's kind of my point. I think we need to take a little bit of a deep breath and as much as I was joking. The Clippers earlier I also think you need to take a deep breath with them to honestly those two teams are still going to be the team's if I were a betting man that I would say are going to be in the the western conference finals like there's no one else in the western conference that scares me. I so here's one would do. But there is some drama surrounding the clippers. We'll get to that. There's also so some micro stuff that's going on with the clippers or issues with the Lakers and we'll get to that and Andrea Gonzales. Basically spent all day on TV maybe today on. ESPN and he's talked about both. Potentially joining the Lakers and the clippers. So we'll have all that coming for you here in about three minutes but first sports fans. What's the game plan tonight with your kids when you get home? Here's an idea. How about a recap of the day singing your favorite song about reading a storybook? That's what I did with my daughter Aria and that's what I'm doing with my son. 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January twenty fifth for Bella tour to thirty eight when Chris cyborg one of the most successful mixed martial artists in history makes her Bella tour debut against Baladora featherweight champion Julia. Budd get your tickets now at ticketmaster so couple of things. I want to talk about here because it's it's been a fun time and by the way I haven't talked to you guys on the phones in a long time I mean you just call up. We can talk basketball whatever. Eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN eight seven seven. Seven three seven seven. Six six where. You'RE GONNA have a little free for all on a Friday free for all Friday effort Friday so ooh yeah. So there's clipper drama and then there's Lakers issues right. We'll just call it that I don't think issues are as big a deal as drama. So the clippers drama according to Sam Amick of the athletic is that there some issues within within the locker room that maybe some of these clipper players are not happy with equal preferential treatment of course and Paul George. Now here's the thing I can see this from both sides of the coin okay. I understand if I'm a clippers player. Who let's say was on this team last year? And we were a forty eight win team. blue-collar right we're GONNA do it the hard way we always bring our lunch pail to work right little engine that could thing and we took the warriors to six games. I get those I guys being like. Well wait a second. I gotTA sacrifice my body but those guys don't have to sacrifice their bodies. I'd be a little annoyed by that. I kind of understand that however however in life regardless of where you are you have to know where your lane is for example. I do a lot of TV. There's no work I'm not Stephen. A Smith my bank account because of that is not like Stephen a Smith's Stephen. A Smith deserves every penny he gets because the man not only produces ratings. But he's on so so many things but more importantly he produces ratings. So I'm not gonNA compare myself to Stephen Smith so if you are one one of the little engine that could clippers. You probably shouldn't compare yourself to Paul George who is a multi time all-star all. NBA Type Player. Let alone coup. Why Leonard who is a two-time finals? MVP also if you wanted a little engine. That could clippers your new teammates. Who are supposed to be? The stars of your team are the stars. Thirteen also are dealing with legitimate injuries. Coli Leonard Ramona. Shelburne reported this a long time ago. During the whole spurs controversy. Controversy co I Leonard Squad is degenerative problem. He will always have to manage that quat not to mention. He's got a looney thing. Because if you know this the knee bones the thighbone thank you. You know what I'm saying it's all interconnected the more you know. So there's that legitimate injury issues Paul. George had not one but two shoulder injuries so those are real injuries and now he's got a hamstring injury. He's had it hurt if he gets. It dinged up again like he has right he had a tweak then he got I pulled again so you figure you know what let's respite because if it gets pulled a third time chances are he's going to be out a month or two and that you don't want not at all so I would tell the little engine that could clippers to just relax and stay in your lane a little bit because because the Toronto Raptors went through something similar like this with Kawhi now granted they had more success. I think when I was out there were seven thousand five hundred twenty two games but you get my my point here. That's my drift. which is a calm the bleep down? It'll work itself out that dude's healthy that dude can drag you literally drag you to a championship. So there's that now with the Lakers I understand Laker fans that you don't like Rajon Rondo. Do I get it. I'm not going to make this personal. I don't I don't know Rondo like that but Rajon Rondo at the moment comment is not a productive basketball player and he's living off reputation. Some still that to me is a problem. I think that there is a huge issue with someone like Rondo. Because it's almost dangerous right veteran players. They like Rondo and coaches and players in general gravitate to him and give him the quote unquote benefit of the Out because man. He's been there he's a champion. He's done that. He hasn't been a plus player for almost six seasons. Maybe longer actually go look at Rajon. Rondo individual net ratings over the last six or seven seasons. They are all negative negative aggressive. And he's playing with the greatest player on the planet a man who was an MVP right now. Lebron James Will Lebron sits and Rondos in the game. He's a minus eight. The team is minus eight. Now Look Rondo. Lebron both in the game. It's like plus barely but it's a plus but when Lebron the damn game you know you're GonNa win when when the bronze sits on the bench it craters. I even if Anthony Davis is on the floor. Anthony Davis Without Lebron is a minus six. Now I understand. Lebron is going to play a ton of minutes in the playoffs. And some all of this gets mitigated that way but that that still is an issue and by the way avery Bradley's not playing on that well either hot start not shooting the ball very well so I think that's an issue the Lakers back court. It's a little bit of a problem instead of big deal. It's not something you can't fix. Whether it's the trade deadline may be Darren. Collison comes. Does your way there are ways to correct that. So that's why the opening segment. I told like your fans just relax. Ax thinks it could be fine. It is January twenty fourth trade. Deadline's coming soon. That will get figured out collison. It doesn't even have a time. Line per se because he's not in the league. There's still the buyout stuff that can happen in March like there are still several possibilities. BILITY's for the Lakers to help their team. So just take a breath. All right. We'll take some of your calls on the other side at eight hundred seventy SPN eight seven seven seven seven three seven seven six plus Andrea dollars. I mentioned someone. The Lakers would love to target if he does is get bought out. I don't know if that's actually gonNA happen. We'll have to see he's been on. ESPN all day. And he's talking about the Lakers. He's been talking about the clippers and the possibility ability of him on those teams. We'll get to all that coming up stick around or back and four minutes here on. ESPN Los Angeles seven ten. ESPN SUSANNAH show here on seven ten. Espn it's the biggest heavyweight title fight in decades as world champion deontay wilder faces lineal champ. Tyson fury we live from Las Vegas the two undefeated heavy hitters square off for the second time in the most anticipated rematch in recent heavyweight. History Saturday February twenty-second nine pm. Eastern live on pay per view. So make sure you check it out again. Big Heavyweight Fight Wilder twenty nine. Oh Tyson fury in a rematch. Live on pay per view. Saturday February twenty-second nine eastern six Pacific. Here so I'm actually looking forward to that fight that is It is as big a heavyweight fight. Light as we've had in a very very long time so should be interesting. I'm watching Clippers eat right now and Do Co. is heating up a little bit now. Clippers numbers of taking a lead eighty nine eighty five. They were trailing early in this one but chipped away very quickly they should beat Miami no drag. It's no Kendrick Nunn today. Those those are two of their top six rotation guys gotta start in their six men out if the clippers don't win this one that's a bad look especially after they blew that twenty point lead to the hawks the other day like this. It should be a win yet. I didn't even know that. Miami's only home loss. So far this year was to the Lakers in controversial fashion. Because the two minute reports said that the Jimmy Taylor was filed So they're really tough at home but when you're missing two of your top six guys like that should be. An easy clipper win. Should James James in Tarzana. He wants to talk about all the conversations we were. Just having about the Lakers. Particularly what's up James. Yeah I listen to the radio and listening to people in the new. I mean every newspaper articles and stuff like that and it seems like Everybody WanNa talk. So bad about the Lakers. Like we're not really doing that. We have first first place and we can expect to have all the best players in the world so yeah we do got Rondo and we got coups and I think he's doing a great job. I'm sitting here his role but people just want to give us like all all the time. I think we don't really good. You know I'm with you. I that's why I said people need to take a breath. James you know like I think that there little things that you can tweak for sure but if I told you you were thirty thirty six thousand nine if I would have said that to you on you know when they opened camp on September twenty fifth or whatever it was you take that in a heartbeat. Man I would. Yeah and Eh and another thing with people. Talking about the Clippers Clippers Buddhist now. Listen the clip. We've got to get to the Lakers. They might not make the playoffs. My Dan- dangerous. Let's relax they're gonNA make make your play offs the we're pretty good position right now. I mean they're the three seed they're not. Yeah the thirty one and fourteen far from full. The eighth seed in the whole on James Old on the eighth seed is three games under five hundred. They're not missing seeing the playoffs. Well they might make the but they may not make two okay number one. I'll tell you this right now. It's it's working out perfectly for everybody because if the clippers are the three seat if they remain the three seed. You wouldn't see the Lakers until the conference finals. Yeah but I don't think the hold up to three you. No that's my thing. I don't know if they hold up because Colli he played every other game Jordan always hurt and another guy who knows they get mad they said Oh man how come I gotta work hard every day but this is fan right now. I'll play every other game. I don't like that. Yeah Clipper Fan. I'm a Laker Fan. Eight the clippers. You know I feel you. I mean the Toronto Raptors felt that way and thanks for the call James James The Toronto Raptors a lot of them I mean they. Don't you could say that now. 'cause they won right but they they lie. Guys are feeling that way. They didn't know how to react to the whole thing thing and then they went seventeen and five with Adams. They felt pretty good and they ended up winning the chip. And you look back like Amen. Whatever it was it was worth it for sure like? I don't think there's any doubt about that. So look say what you want about that. Dude that dude produces when it matters eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN IF YOU WANNA have aboard. Eight seven seven seven ten three seven seven six I mentioned Andrea dollar was all over. ESPN today and we'll play a bunch of these clips here throughout the next couple minutes. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles by the way. Here's what he said about the clippers. You live the clippers in a little different Because they have a lot of weapons like you said Mantras Chris Heralds putting up. You know he gets thirty. You know seems like every other week and Lou Williams is able to get to the foul on like no other and he's showing that he can do in the playoffs as well. Last year's playoff performance especially can suss was is amazing and come back in thirty one game and Taking a game from US in Golden State they made us up game a little bit so you know they have a lot of weapons as well They've been really solid in terms of whether position right now considering their injuries and considering that quieter and Paul George having been on the floor as much so you know You want to see them play a little bit more these last you know thirty forty games and seeing if they can build some chemistry go into the playoffs because see. That's the one thing I'm I am concerned about is that there is even when they do play together. There is a lot of your turn my turn with Paul and coli and I do think that you could still get to the finals that way. I mean it's possible. I saw Wade and Lebron do that their first year but the west is tougher than that Eastwood's back then so I'm with Andrea. I think you need to get a little little chemistry going. Here's what a good things about the Lakers. So far well Lebron James has been to so many emmys you you lose count of. How many finals has been too? I think he's one of those very few players who elevates every other four guys on his team like no other you kind of like Magic Johnson. Like everybody's a threat on the floor. One thing I have seen in the Lakers always give a shout out to my guys reform teams but They had a stretch one eighty. He was out missed a bunch of games they still want quaint. Cook came in and did a hell of a job Coming in putting this appointee scored a ball. And you know so. Sometimes you have question marks marks and you have guys like Quinn Cook. Caruso I think Rhinos Rondo was very underrated as well. Sometimes you look at his numbers and they might not tell the whole story you know the way. He's orchestrating different things like that like that. And you don't see often too many teams that put two big men and rotate the way they've done with the White House and whether you've done what McCain how they. Yeah I mean Look Doc. It's just what I was saying. Like the Lakers issues are not upfront like Dwight Man Rachel Rachel Nichols did interview with Dwight For Today on the jump Tom and say what you want about. Dwight I know the first time around and go so great but man. He is absolutely lived up to the billing in this particular role. I don't think there's any doubt about that and I don't think anyone saw this coming. Dwight release all this coming. He does Oloron in a deal Outta love though a gift basket or something because those dudes allowed him to be on this team and there were a lot of people that were wondering whether he should be or not D is in Los Angeles. We'll hear more from meager dial in a second good. Hey thanks a lot I think it doesn't seem like it but I think the main thing we have to worry about is Anthony Davis okay. Was that David because we have to see. If Anthony Davis Davis he needs to be the best player in the floor. In the playoff. Specially against the clippers. Okay Lebron has been a leak. Seventeen years it's hard for him to go ahead up with Hawaii. An Paul George. AD has to establish yourself as the best player on the floor. We when he plays the clippers. We need thirty five and seventeen and we really need it and he has to show that he's the best player in the game. We have seen him do that in the playoffs yet so we have to see if he can do this. And and that's my concern. He's a great player. It reminds me. He reminds me of a more athletic. I know it doesn't sound their games. And not like but it reminds me a Lebron on May of Colby and saw Lebron and Davis reminds me of that. But we're we're missy we don't have a Lamar Odom and we don't have a Trevor Trevor reason and we need those kind of parts. The only thing that saved us is that the league is a little water down here. But I'm concerned about the clippers in the books any team. That's had athletic front court and a quick point Gohmert has beaten us we lost to Orlando Endo. We lost to Toronto. We lost to Boston. And we lost to the clippers twice. Yeah and I know those are those are the only teams off concerned. Learn about we lost to D- to your point the teams that they've either lost to or have played them really tight are teams that have big that can stretch you out a little bit right like I think that there's something to that Because the Lakers bigs are mostly dominant in the paint outside of Anthony Davis and then we they're killing a yeah well no but like teams have the have guys that can spread the floor on you right like particularly big men that can spread the floor and you can see that being a potential issue like that I Mavericks Game Those First Two Maverick's it's games. I'm you know what I'm saying like. They're bigs were hitting threes from everywhere right and then they lost some of their bigs. PORZINGAS didn't play the third time they wipe the floor of them same with the the last time they plate so with animals with you on the Anthony Davis stuff especially against the clippers. Anthony Davis AS TO PUNISH THE CLIPPERS. That's the yes that's the best way for them to win against that particular team because they do not have a natural matchup for him not at all not at all and he in the both ofttimes we played them. He's shooting three. He's out on a parameter. Listen I'm Anthony. Davis is a great player. What I WANNA see from him? He's one of the only the players I've seen a history here like twenty five and thirteen. I'm like man. He had thirty two and eighteen because sometimes he lets other team off the hook. He's a little sweetness. He likes to understand shooting jumpers. Seven foot I understand it three points but when you put them down low and I don't think his back to your basket download I I mean make it quick he has an unstoppable floater with a quick first step man. We need to concentrate on that to beat the League teams. Thank thank you sir. Have a good night eight seven seven hundred ten. Espn Houston is in Los Angeles. Houston what up man. What up? Thanks for taking my call I don't know what everybody's talking about about all these trades and I don't think we need to train cools mine. A lot of the guys are are being really good in their roles. I just think that the Lakers is a lot of games this year. We haven't had a closer to the games that we lost. Lebron to me is not that closer like He. He's just he's not closing games to me in my opinion We were relying on a lot of guys to shoot threes to win games when we really need a legitimate closer like in the last. You know few years with the Lakers. We haven't ever had that and you saw other teams had superstars that were closing out games and Phil. We don't yeah but I think that stuff with the brand is overrated. Lebron always make the right play in the end the Games and whether that's taking the shot himself or getting a guy in open look like there are few people in sports history that can make the plays that he he can make you know what I mean so I just don't I don't buy that part of it I will say this. I do think that you know what I saw here on. The call screener says that you think it's a bad idea to trade eight coups. I would agree with you but I also think that coups has been so inconsistent as far as his scoring. Totals right. Like you know when Lebron was Missed that game and okay see. He went for thirty. Six right The night before that against Dallas playing with Lebron he had like were loaded with twenty five twenty six points whatever it was but then he gives you like a four point game. You know what I mean it. There has to be some consistency. And it's tough historically being that third or dude on the Lebron teams has been tough. But he's not as talented as Chris. Bosh and Kevin Love were not overall talent. You know what I'm saying so I think I think that I would keep him only because he will one thing he does really well is what you're pointing out. Is We know that there are nights he can score and they do need that. They don't have a guy who can just go. Get you a bucket outside of those first two guys at least not dues. You can count on regularly but I don't feel like a low the games that we've lost this year. It's not like Oh you know what it's it's cool or Oh if you know is Casey P.. I feel like these guys are doing great. We just like for instance the Gala Lock Against Orlando Folks was the closer we talked about. We got Lebron James Against Marquel folks and Markelle full but I mean also markle awful to a small dude shifty like. You can't ask Lebron to be guarding him all the time you know what I'm saying like there's that part of the dog is thirty five years old. You know what I'm saying like in January. You can't be having him guard. Markdale foltz that's not. That's not a sound strategy. I get that it's not necessarily on the defensive end but I'm I'm just saying as far as when we need we. We've Lost Games because we've needed a bucket and we couldn't get that bucket in only nine games the chew a little bit. I'm not I'm not saying. Oh we're not gonNA win because of that book. I mean we still got a great record and everything but I feel like you know everybody's kind of like oh we've got tray we gotta get back. There's nobody out there. I feel we're going to get well. And here's the other thing. Houston I'll let you go but I appreciate you okay Coups only makes two million dollars others like the. There's not a lot and again. The Lakers don't have first round picks the trade like there's not a lot of ammunition there is kind of the point you know because you gotta trade salary for salary. So what are you gonNA attach. You're not trading Danny Green. Do you need that right. You need that three D. type player. Who who you trading to attach to Kouzmin to get you back something of real value in return? There's just not a lot of. There's not a lot a lot for the Lakers. To Mix and match to make that work and Rajon Rondo. How much does he make you? He makes like either actually see. What's he me Casey? P I guess he uh-huh he's playing really well now. I know he was in. The doghouse will laker fans to start the season but he's actually played really well the last month like or maybe even longer than that now. Yeah he got. He got himself out of the DOGHOUSE. Real quick I mean. The beginning of the season was born with bad bad that November was just and in December. He started to get better and you know he's played well slowly slowly slowly. He's kind of you know. All right we see Casey P exactly I. We'll take your calls. Plus we'll hear more from Andrea. Diallo was all over. ESPN today he's talking. All sorts of stuff about the Lakers and the clippers so stick around. Ramona Shelburne is GONNA join us in thirty minutes. We'll talk to her. MEENA IS GONNA stop by after that Trudell is GONNA stop. Stop by in the eight o'clock hour Yarmuk who covers the Lakers and clippers for us at ESPN a lot of guests in the back half of the show so want to open it up to you guys here in the early part of the show. Eight seven seven seven to ten. ESPN will take your calls. Here from me Gonzala Sodano show on seventeen. ESPN you think. Billy is. She can be a one hit wonder. I don't think so I think she's very creative and her spouse very unique that I think she'll be around. I'll go beyond. I'm just asking her. You know I mean this song great. Don't get me wrong. She could go the way halls ego Halsey when everyone thought she had a one hit wonder with that Americana Song and she's been kind of doing her thing but who knows. That's Hey Ramona. SHELBURNE IS GONNA stop by in a few minutes so stick around for that. We'll talk to her about what's on the trade deadline market for the Lakers clippers etc by the way some action at the four tomorrow be there live at the forum Saturday January twenty fifth for Bella tour to thirty thirty eight when Chris cyborg. One of the most successful mixed martial artists in history makes her debut against ballot or featherweight champ. Julia Budd get your tickets now at ticketmaster so so Andrea dollar has been all over. ESPN today was on. I take on countdown and we'll get your calls in a second about the Lakers clippers all that stuff but He he was asked about the Lakers particularly and we heard the clip he played earlier. But here is is Andre specifically going being in about the Lakers bigs. I think they've maximized their two bigs unlike any other team in the league. You know with the way that they're rotating tasting other than eighty you mean you mean white and Dwight Inge Avail who were written off? Four five years ago in the League and the way they've been able to resurrect their career. I think that shows you gotta give a lot of credited. Lebron who's co-signed on obviously and said bring these guys in. They're going to help us protect the paint. We're we're going to bring some strength around a d you know because the perception is a little fragile in the paint people trying to pump him. Improves wanted some bodies down out there to help those two guys really good. It's the reason why the first one West secondly just WANNA play center very much. We know that it's no surprise anymore. And those guys have provided provided a real lift and they deserve a ton of credit particularly white particularly Dwight. So here's Andre about the difference between the Lakers and the clippers. I'm curious I used to hear this because I didn't hear this on. I take you know I go back to that. Rondo thing you know. I think he does enhance their bench and making sure they get the most out of their bench and I think that does give them a little bit more depth than the clippers but the clippers have a little bit more firepower in terms of you know the guys. You just name Paul George All the way down to Patrick Beverley Lou Williams mantras. Sarah you know they just got a lot of things going right there and you know. It got mcgruder. Got Still got some other guys who are still coming to form the Rondo thing. It's just like I talked about earlier. Man These veteran guys is love Rondo. He's a good dude in the locker room. He's just not the player he once was. I mean the numbers. Don't lie in those situations and I'm talking about numbers that not just this this year just like four years. Now it's just crazy but there's another example of what I was talking about earlier. Oh Man let's go to the phones eight seven and seven hundred ten. ESPN Franken San Pedro. Some of my favorite restaurants in San Pedro absolutely savage Iraq's. Yeah crazy fish. I love at that spot. That's my that's one of my my best fish guts. Sam Do I but look the reason why I'm calling is just a touch. What you're based on earlier with the Celtics Toronto? No no the clippers or the Lakers play these guys. They look like they're out of position like their loss like they don't know where to go and the one thing that they are lacking is that killer instinct. Like if you're GONNA finish the team off finish them off. Just go after the throat. Just get kicked out of the water. Let them know that you're for real. Let them know that. You're GONNA do some justice to the Laker Brad. Red For instance. The Lakers are fine. The Lakers they could use a little bit more sparring at a coups MMA and I understand he wants to when he's out there it just seems like he has no pressure well abroad and ad are where the ball is the differences. Sometimes don't signs where he has been Nice advantage with Eddie and the game is because he just doesn't know where he is in with right he doesn't understand his role in that certainly hurts his consistency. I'm with you on all that but I just think that here's the thing with Lebron teams. They get old quick because because He wants a lot of veterans. And I don't blame him. He wants a lot of veterans. That can help him win. Now and the window is smaller with Lebron at thirty five now but man I you did everything you could to protect him to keep him. Kuzina that is. Do you WANNA lose all your youth like youth. That can be impactful them. I don't know how I feel about that. Brian and Chino Hills. What about Brian all good? Yeah so you know sticking with that with Talk you know. I think honestly thought to be made as you matching salaries you can throw. It took her daniels or one of those guys. But you gotta get. Derrick rose At the guy that he can come in. We'll wait the Lakers. Wouldn't even trade Alex Caruso for Derrick rose there sure is not going to trade cow Kuzma. Well he's said they wouldn't take root though. I think I'm telling you I was talking about it on Mason in Ireland. If that's available you don't think you'll both off sugar on that note. I think you have that guarantee score in create for himself because when in the camp uh-huh here's what I'll push back a little on you Brian. Derrick rose playing for a bad team getting all the shots and buckets that he wants. That's not going to be the case where you've got to play a role here and he's also done the Lebron experience and it didn't go so well yet you know back then He he wasn't quite physically worried that now sure but again again he's getting all the looks he wants because on a bad team you know. But he's he's shooting a better percent engine you know he'll he can get his don't shot. That's different nobody on that team. Be Thought you know Lebron and maybe OK P can get their shot they. Yeah I listen I I think the derrick rose prototype make sense. I just don't know if Derrick rose is going to be the one that makes sense Mikey. Calabasas might area what's going on. I'll good the Brotherhood of Mr Bomber to clips. They are forever. We'll be interesting. I don't care how much uncle Ennis's nephews is like. Is this or that suite on that team. Lou Williams even your state basketball reason themselves into its nipping chip. They would just beat the mets. Do One would care. They don't have a we have. They never will the other point. I wanted to point out to you. Said you were right when he wants. Loss to the bullets and the Celtics regular season they create that soldier. Boy in the postseason. I don't see that at all the most efficient shock creator. Mba and we could do buses lag. Didn't have a training camp. I need to get it together. Lady just start going rack horrid MAC attempt is out on that with appreciate you stay up. I'm be good. Yeah I said that earlier you mentioned on what Mason in Ireland which was I've seen these Lebron teams man for years. I covered one as we all know somebody. You know like for four years and they get beat by T. Knicks and the Bulls and the Celtics and it was like they'd lose three games in the regular season. Four Games in the regular season. Everybody he was freaking out. I just don't buy into the regular season stuff. Even if the Lakers were to lose to the clippers in a week or whatever it is I'll be like whatever like I I'm not threatened in by it Because I just think there are two different beasts like first of all. Lebron is a different beast in the playoff and Anthony. Davis in very limited sample size has played very well in the playoffs. Now he has had the stakes but he's played very well all right. We'll take more of your calls in a second eight seven seven ten. ESPN RAMONA IS GONNA join us in fifteen minutes. We'll talk trade deadline with her so stick around for that. She's actually at. This clipper games so I wanNA talk to her so makes you you stick around for that. Mean at times will join us as well. We'll talk football with our trails GONNA stop by in the eight o'clock hour and Yama Shoe because well Savannah show oops sorry about that one little early Sonata show here on seven to ten. ESPN I thought it was over. I mean I don't want to say anything yet. Morales is probably listening. It'd be like why are you stepping over my imaging imaging anyway so he's taking right now. Yeah probably hey real quick before we take your calls Ramona's going to join us in a couple of minutes eight minutes so we're going to do a quick segment take a couple of calls so we can get to Momo as quickly as possible Real quick though. It's the biggest heavyweight title fight in decades as world champion deontay wilder faces lineal champ. Tyson Fury Live from Las Vegas to undefeated heavyweight hitter square off the second time in the most anticipated rematch in recent heavyweight. History that Saturday February twenty-second at six o'clock live on pay pay per view. I let me speak in a couple of calls here. So we can get to Momo WHO's been on? Hold the longest right Robert in Pacific palisades. How are you Robert? Pretty good my friend our you so I wanted to save. Kyle Kyle Kuzma and trading him as pros and cons. But let's let's talk about the pros for the pros. commod Kyle Kuzma said last summer. He's been really working on the two big holes game which were which was ball handling a defense and he was absolutely right that those are the two biggest goals and here it is months later. You can't blame his injury or anything else. He doesn't know how to play defense and for for for the good Lord Sake isn't somebody's selling them out to any green point side. He doesn't even get down and property as a physician. He's horrible. You get the ball all off and he's erotic because he plays three games great and then five games on the other hand and this is my point why tinker the Camaraderie of the Lakers. I haven't seen in this together. Maybe ever even in Tampa. If you're having fun like this the team togetherness and you're going to get rid of coups you're could get what her get. Somebody marginally better right. WHO also doesn't have probably the long-term ceiling that he has so you're right? I'm with you I would keep keep him. I would keep him in leading. Figure it out but I'll say this much like the off season. Remember the rampling cassette. I consulted Lebron on everything. You know. There's been some stuff out there. I don't know how accurate it is or not a you know trainer stuff right that was said and you know Lebron you don't mess with that kind of stuff. You know what I mean like you. Don't WanNa deal with that kind of stuff new now him in cu squash. It coordinator Brian. But that you you may forgive but you don't forget right and I think that's part of just Lebron being Lebron and I don't blame them. Nate and long Beechwood nate. It was going. Oh Man I'm good sir and yourself. I'm good I just a couple of things I just wanted to say that you really can't measure answer. What Rondo means to the team by numbers because You know he does a great job in practice with the young fellows and the guys at Someone other veterans of telling them where to be on the floor and when he's out as like a coach on the floor Kuzma he just needs to get out of his own head and Lebron. I've seen this from him before. He's just simply trying to get his teammates to play up to the level that they beat be by the time playoff. Come around. No listen I feel you about the being like a coach on the floor stuff. The Oklahoma almost city thunder had nick. Collison forever okay I'm watching a game between the clippers and heat right now. You've got is has limits still in this league because he's basically a coach But those dudes didn't and play very much at the end you know what I'm saying. Because they were. The team was bad when they were on the floor. They couldn't defend the same way they couldn't score the same way. And that's what I'm talking about. Rondo not not individual numbers. I'm talking about T- numbers when he's on the floor. Well I understand. I understand that but that's also to me if you ask me some of that blame has go to Frank Vogel because you keep putting him out there and you got quaint cooks sitting on the bench when Queen Cook could be out there playing those minutes short and Getting into You know that gives you another shooter on the floor to help help the spacing and You know he he he plays defense too. So I mean it's like Vogel Google has to trust. Yeah but I think frank for the most part nate. I think frank a really good job with this roster man like you know it has some shortcomings not a ton on but it has some Jeff is intensity Jeff. I got like thirty seconds. Go ahead by all right. I'M GONNA make it quick first of all I miss in the morning. You're better in the morning than the other guy. I don't say that that's not true. Go ahead but The other thing is is that go with the chemistry. Everything's cooking lookin. Everything's fine leave. Everything alone and number is three Can we rename the clippers. The Sandia San Diego Geico Corp. Los Angeles. You're rolling until that last joke You know on the The the analysis analysis of the basketball teams so anyway Clippers are only up nine without two thirty to go right now. So Ramona. Shelburne is at that game. We will talk to her because it'll probably conclude by the time she's on she's going to join us in about three minutes. Don't forget meaning is will join us. 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#181 - Has The Electoral College Outlived Its Usefulness?

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#181 - Has The Electoral College Outlived Its Usefulness?

"This is from the team at intelligence squared. We WanNa Think Express VPN for supporting this episode. You probably don't think much about Internet privacy on your own Home Network Express. Vpn Will Secure Privacy and protect your information visit expressed VPN dot com slash debate. And you can get an extra three months free on a one year package now. Let's get to the episode. Everybody I'm John Dan host and moderator of intelligence squared. Us debates for this episode. I got online with four debaters. Who argued over this resolution? The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness. This was a debate that we had originally planned to host with our partners at northwestern law school in Chicago. We were GONNA do it at the law school. Obviously that did not happen. What did happen was that we had instead of a great debate. Digitally has turned out to be incredibly timely topic. So let's get to it the Electoral College. It's this unique construct of indirect democracy that well. It's it's not a college as the term is commonly used but it sure is electoral in that its members who are currently maxed out at five hundred thirty eight have been the actual electors of every president we've ever had since we've had a constitution even those five times in our history when the popular vote went to someone else in recent memory that happened in the two thousand election happened in the two thousand sixteen election. So what were the founders thinking? That's a question that right now. The Supreme Court is considering in an electoral college case but why did the founders think? The Electoral College was needed. And what good has come of it and also what harm has come of it. Well in these questions we've been thinking. They're the makings of a debate. So we had it for really really good debaters said yes or no to this statement. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness as always Our debate goes three rounds and our audience tuning it online voted to decide our winner. But you can still weigh in on this when yourself if you're just listening for the first time to this debate we are taking votes right now at Iq to us dot org that's q the number two US dot org. If you go there you can cast your first vote before you hear the arguments you can vote for or against or undecided on the resolution. You know what? I'll give you a test to do that right now. I'll wait for you. Remember you cast votes one now in one after you've heard the argument and it's the team that changes the most mind. Who will be our winner? So go do that. I'll wait for you. So let's meet our debaters. I up to speak for the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness. Jim Bowie Jim. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me Djamil. You are in New York Times columnist and political analyst for CBS News. You are also an alumnus of our series. So it's great to have you back also arguing on your team for the resolution. I want to say hello to kate. Shaw Kate. Welcome to intelligence squared. He John Thanks so much for having me. And you're a professor at the Cardozo School of law and Co Director of the floor Shurmur Center for Constitutional Democracy. You're also a host of the very popular law. Podcast strict scrutiny. So that's the team arguing for the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness. Now let's meet the team arguing against that very low resolution. I let's say hello to Tara Tara. Welcome to intelligence squared. It's great to have you with us on one folks to know that you are the author of a lot of books about the electoral college including why we need the Electoral College. You're also a former lawyer and editor of the Texas Review of law and politics and your partner. I WANNA welcome also to intelligence squared Bradley Smith. Bradley Hi Welcome to intelligence squared tie. Thanks John Pleasure to be here and you are a professor at Capital University Law School and you have served as Commissioner Vice Chairman and Chairman of the Federal Election Commission welcome. I want everybody to know that was always our debate will go in three rounds and then you those folks out in the world are online audience. Get to vote to decide who the winner is all right. I think we are ready to move. Onto round one opening statements from each debater and turn those statements will be formed. It's each our resolution is the electoral college has outlived its usefulness. And here I up to speak for that Resolution Jamal Buoy columnist for the New York Times. Djamil your time starts right now. I'm going to begin with a discussion of how we got to the Electoral College in the first place and the think he thing I want everyone to understand. Is that the electoral college that we have the one we will use. November's election is that not actually the one that was ratified in seventeen. Eighty eight gone. Electoral College fell out of use quickly. What we have is essentially an extra constitutional mechanism to deal with the exegesis of politics as they've developed from the beginning of the constitutional convention and specifically when they began thinking about the national executive the delegates for trying to balance four simply four competing things from came to Hal. Choose and national executive They wanted a voice for the People. They wanted a fair representation for slave states They wanted independence from the legislature in. May had to deal the very simple question of. How do you actually choose national executive? In a big large diverse country they cycled through a few things Several delegates including teams Madison Propose Popular Election Others propose choosing from Congress But by the time They came to a conclusion which was at the very last minute the convention. They decided they would do this. Elector based system that each state would choose. Electors would gather together as a kind of congress of it's filtered through candidates They would the majority whoever won the majority of electors would become president Sprout Vice President and if there was no winner at to the house would choose on the basis of the delegations. No one was really entirely satisfied with this when they came to the conclusion but everyone expected more or less at the president of the Convention George Washington would become the first chief executive and this was a a straightforward way to get George Washington took become President United States. No one was really too worried about it. There is debate over During the revocation debates. But it wasn't a big sticking point. No one was too worried about mob rule in these discussions. They weren't worried about excessive democracy. Usually when the founders talked about democracy they were talking but a Fenian style. Direct ASSEMBLY IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE ELECTIONS. So it works in seventeen eighty nine and seventeen ninety two and then to choose. Washington. Then it probably falls apart sums. Ninety six is highly contested. Eighteen hundred is famously. Contested because Aaron Burr and Thomas Jefferson and get the same number of electoral votes and This ends up. Nearly tearing the country apart in the twelfth amendment is passed to ensure that electors can choose the president and the vice president on separate ballots and to avoid repeats of eighteen hundreds. But by this point this is key by eighteen. Hundred the idea of a non partial body of people selecting president is gone. We have partisanship. We have political parties. Partisan letters. Give THE EXPECTATION VEHICLE. Choose on a partisan basis and so at that point. The Electoral College as designed has basically elevated usefulness. It's gone within fifteen years. In what emerges the winner take all system It's highly partisan Electoral choices is basically an attempt to get around the conditions of American politics at the time. surviving founders. I limit this and even Madison calls for a constitutional amendment to get rid of winner. Take all of the very least. And by the closure the nineteenth century electoral college misfires or misfires of this new strain system. We've devised and there is an emerging consensus that we should do something different. My debate partner will talk about The Electoral College is developing the twentieth century. And the problems associated with it. Thank you thank you Jim Bowie. And now we moved the argument over to the other side arguing against the resolution that the electoral college has outlived. Its usefulness I want to once again. Welcome Tara Ross. She is author of why we need the Electoral College Tara. The screen is yours. So I'm going to start with the story to my surprise everybody in the late. Nineteen Sixty S and early nineteen seventies. Civil Rights leaders came out enthusiastically in favour of the Electoral College. Now this was no token gesture of support. They wrote editorials. They testified before Congress in general seem terrified that if the electoral college where to go away racial minorities would be hard. In fact National Urban League President Vernon Jordan defended the electoral college saying Takeaway Electoral College in the importance of that luck vote melts away lacks instead of being crucial victory. Major stays simply become ten percent of the total electric with reduced impact so he and other civil rights leaders noted benefits. That go unappreciated day. I he noted that third parties cannot into big of a foothold in with the Talk Hodge. Now maybe you're not about that because we all sometimes get frustrated with our teach races but the good side is that extremists cannot have too much of an influence on our election. In particular. The civil rights leaders noted that segregationist George Wallace in nineteen sixty eight was unable to get foothold. They noted other benefits as well. They noted that the concentration of minority voters is certain. Large urban areas can be an advantage. Jordan call this. The empathy factor. Those who live in the same city tend to have shared concerns so the result tends to be coalition building within cities across racial and other lines. That might normally divide us. Those coalitions can swing a large metro area. Invest the state but the beauty of the electoral college is that it balances us in so many ways so while urban areas may have a disproportionate power and sell parts of the country in another person's the country. We're all in all states can make a big difference in this is because of how electors allocated partly based on population and partly based on one state. One vote so we have a bats. The result of this historically speaking his been that we have encouraged presidential candidates to build coalitions. You can't win if are catering to one region or one tiger voter one special interest group. Those who do the best. In the Electoral College has done the best job. Coalition knowing historically those who do a terrible job tend to fail. So you're on. The virtual audience is looking at me and saying here and that's ridiculous. Look how divided an angry we are. We are in a bad place. Both parties are broken. Nobody's doing a great job of coalition building. And it's not pretty but the good news is we have been here before we were here in years after the civil war stark division between North and South Lots of anger in division in upset the Electoral College helped us. Then the reason it helped us because it was unproductive to stay in that place Democrats could not win with only there safe areas that it they simply did not have enough say various by contrast Republicans could win only safe areas. The just barely if they lost even one part of the country or one stay then they would lose the presidency to the Democrats so over time. The incentives were reach out people but weren't to learn about people in the middle and to build coalitions and in fact by the Nineteen Thirties the Democrats with in repeated landslides as we know so ambitious. Encourage everybody to remember the electoral House today when we are most angry innermost divided. It's actually when we need the electoral college votes because it reminds us to come together as Americans into reach a hand across the to those who are entirely like us so I would urge everyone to the against the motion. The Electoral College still serves us today. Taros former lawyer and editor of the Texas Review of law and politics. Thank you very much. Tara. I'm John. This is intelligence squared. Us We'll have more opening statements on the resolution. The Electoral College outlived its usefulness when we return being stuck at home these days. You probably don't think much about Internet privacy on your home network even an incognito mode your online activity can still be traced which is why even when at home. I never go online without using express. Vpn EXPRESS VPN and crips one hundred percent of your data with best in class encryption. So your information is always protected. And that's on every single device simply tap one button in your protected express. Vpn Is the fastest most trusted VPN on the market. It's rated number one by it wired the verge and a whole bunch more and honestly the setup cannot be simpler takes a few clicks. And then you're ready to browse securely so protect your online activity today with a VPN. I Trust Secure my privacy visit express. Vpn DOT com slash debate? And you can get an extra three months free on one year package. That's E. X. P. R. E. S. S. VPN dot com slash express VPN dot com slash debate to learn more. We are in the middle of round one of this intelligence squared. Us debate our resolution is the electoral college has left its usefulness. Now let's hear from Kate. Shaw law professor and Co host of the podcast strict scrutiny. She's arguing in favor of the resolution. So I think you. Mel has very successfully demonstrated that the best reading of the drafting history of the Constitution. Is that the electoral. College is essentially an eleventh hour and imperfect solution to one of the most vexing problems that face the delegates at the constitutional convention which was how to pick the president. And I think that that history is an important corrective to the suggestion that is often made that reforming or abolishing the electoral college would be inconsistent with the framers design or the framers desires on a number of occasions. This peculiar process set forth in the Constitution has either failed to produce a result or has awarded the presidency to someone other than the person who amassed the most votes in the country. That's true about eighteen hundred eighteen twenty four eighteen seventy six eight hundred eighty eight all our failures of different sorts. But let me fast forward a little bit to marine examples with which people might be familiar two thousand and two thousand sixteen so in the year two thousand of course. George W Bush wins. The presidency narrowly with two hundred and seventy one electoral votes to Al. Gore's two hundred sixty six over losing the popular vote by about half a million of course in two thousand sixteen sixteen years later. Donald Trump wins decisive electoral college. Victory Over Hillary Clinton while losing the popular vote by nearly three million in standing alone. No single incident is a complete indictment of the electoral college but this is an exceptionally high rate of error and rate of malfunction for something as consequential as the selection of the US president. And I think that is especially true because we now have some political scientists predicting that we are at an increased likelihood of recurrence of this kind of divergence between the popular vote on the one hand and the electoral college outcome on the other. So let me turn briefly to current practice so the constitution gives each state the power to choose electors in such manner as the legislature thereof may direct in the early days actually state legislature themselves sometimes picked electors and various other experiments were undertaken but relatively quickly every state allowed it's voters to choose its electors and since about the mid nineteenth century. Mo- states have awarded all of their electoral votes to the winner of estates popular vote today forty-eight states us what's known as the winner take all scheme with Maine and Nebraska differing slightly and so these developments people picking their electors and then the electors casting. Their votes to align with the votes of the states of voters have occurred as we have marched in other ways toward a more inclusive democracy with a fifteenth and the nineteenth amendments and the direct election of United States senators but the electoral college system as it has developed which of course diverges quite significantly from the originally designed scheme has also had some deeply troubling consequences and in particular the winner. Take all character of this scheme means today. Only a handful of states matter in selecting the president and those are states with closely divided electorate so called Purple States so very blue states like New York or California very red states like Alabama Mississippi are utterly irrelevant and thus erased from the single most important election in the country. Instead handful of states maybe up to a dozen are the ones that the president the states are random in a sense that they just happened to have very closely divided electorates but they also share certain features and those features distort our politics. Their populations are older and more rural and on average whiter than the country. As a whole Larry less gives as an example the prevalence of debates about coal in the presidential election cycle where seven or eight times as many Americans have jobs in the solar sector and yet solar never comes up in presidential elections so the idea that the framers intended a system in which the presence would be decided by this pretty arbitrary subset of the states with no role for other states for their voters is pretty hard to defend the scheme. Exacerbates polarization and divisions creates distorted sense of the country and it's political geography. Were not divided into red and blue. In fact everyone everywhere. Thank you very much. Kate Shaw and our final opening statement comes from Bradley Smith. Bradley Smith is law professor and former chairman of the here in the United States majority rules. Clearly a very important value. But it's not our only political value. Our Constitution and institutions contain numerous anti majoritarian features. That are aimed at protecting and enhancing other values. The bill of rights most obviously simply takes a lot of items off the table. No matter how much you bothered by fake news you can't censor the press. We have separation of powers enumerated powers bicameralism judicial review and numerous other checks and balances. Many people forget that it's possible to win a majority of the US Senate without winning a majority of the votes cast for senators possible to win a majority of the US House into the speaker. The second most powerful official in the country without winning a total vote for the House of Representatives may people are also in the mistaken belief that the United States is somehow unique in this respect. And we're the only country where you can lose the popular vote and still be elected chief executive. That's not true in countries that use proportional representation. This happens when no candidate gains majority and then afterwards the various parties get together and they negotiated coalition and sometimes it's the winner of the popular vote. Sometimes it's not who heads up that coalition and this is happening in recent decades our recent elections in Sweden Norway Germany Israel Italy and other democracies in other countries such as the United States chief executives can be elected outright without wearing the popular vote. This happened in Japan in two thousand three since World War Two. It's happened twice in Great Britain. It's happened twice in New Zealand and it's also happened at least twice not only in the United States but in the other three democracies Great Geographic Democracies Hispanic continent or subcontinent. That is India. Australia and Canada have all these countries got it wrong. I mean our system is different but the principle is the same. So arcadia Jamal ready to condemn all of these other democracies for just getting it rock now saying that the electoral college occasionally gives us a president. Who did not win? The most popular votes is merely a statement of fact. It's not an argument and cost such results. Misfires is to fail to understand why we have electoral college. The question is why do most democracies especially those spanning continent WanNA system that about once in every twelve elections and that's what it's been in the United States results in someone. Winning the chief executives office without winning the popular vote then suggest that our electoral college recognizes in a vast incredibly diverse country. Such as ours. It matters how electoral majorities are created. You don't have to win the popular vote to win the Electoral College. But you have to win a lot of votes and you have to a lot of states to and that necessarily means that the winning candidate will have appeal that extends beyond any or two regions or broad social classes. Sometimes people complain about this focus on swing states. But there's two points here first. Those other states aren't relevant. Try winning the tra- college if you're a Democrat without Owning California. It's very very relevant. Secondly the voters tend to agree secondly those states have tremendous diversity. The seventeen states in the last election. That were that were swung with less than five point. Swing right there have gone to the other candidate. Those include three of the five states with the highest white percentage voters but also four or five of the highest percentage of Hispanic voters three of the eight with the highest percentage of black voters. They include states from every geographic region in the country. They include a states. That are highly unionized. States are lightly unionize high tax states low tax states big states small states in this way the electoral college fosters governing majorities that are generally more stable over time and this creates more freedom and more prosperity. Now they're practical advantages to the electoral college and I hope will be able to explore those in the rest of our time. It curbs fraud. It allows for local election rules tailored to local conditions. It allows for experimentation with voting procedures like voting by mail and it avoids the Catastrophic Possibility of national recount. Let's be careful that we don't throw something away unless we understand why we have it. Thank you all right. Thank you Bradley. Smith and that concludes our first round of this intelligence squared. Us debate our formal opening statements. And now we move onto our second round in our second round is much more of a free willing conversation in which the debaters can address one another directly and challenge each other and also take questions from me and from you members of our audience on the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived its usefulness. We heard Jamal Buoy and Kate Shaw. They went back to the beginning which is relevant because we're talking about outlived its usefulness to to look at what its original purpose was and what they point out is that the electoral college was designed by the founding fathers as a kind of cobbled together concept to solve a thorny problem of how to elect the president and it was designed for a very specific time of the sperry specific place in a very specific almost politics free era which was soon set aside the point out that within twelve years the founding fathers or rather their successors began to tinker with the concept so pointing out. That it's not sacrosanct. Set in stone. It was never anybody's ideal way to elect the president and they also say that it has a high rate of malfunction their opponents Brad Smith and Tara rose number one they take a very interesting philosophical position that the idea that the popularly of chosen candidate would not be. President is not in itself necessarily as terrible as as wrong as it might sound that we do that with a lot of other elections. A lot of other countries do that. They further point out that there are practical advantages to having an electoral college that it can be a bulwark against voter fraud etc. And they talk also about its benefits in situations. They site specifically during the civil rights era in which Civil rights activists felt that the presence of the Electoral College kept out extremist parties that would have been damaging to their interest and they say that in a very important way. The Electoral College serves to keep relevant parts of the population. That would be electorally irrelevant if the college We're not there. I want to dig into some of this but I really want to start with Bradley. You made the statement that this notion that the candidate that of the population chooses in an election. At least a plurality if not a majority not becoming the president which seems to be the thing that most people I think at a sort of visceral level would find questionable or objectionable is really not that problematic and I want to take that to Jamal Buoy. I Jimmy Taylor that point. It's an interesting point. I think the problem with is that Bradley's examples are fundamentally different than the kind of presidential governments. We have here that in these coalition governments you can think of executive power is not necessarily being winner. Take all means. If there's there's an extent to which that executive power is shared in a system where executive power self is not winner. Take all in that kind of system a party that does not win a plurality the vote informs a Co op majority of the vote with informs a coalition with other parties to form majority. That's this is a completely different kind of scenario. Then we're talking about in the United States. Executive power is singular where it's not tied to the legislature where it is essentially winner. Take all that. There's only one president and one party can occupy the presidency in practical terms and that kind of situation. It does becalm through democratically. Problematic for the winner to not have received a majority of the vote and polarization is really important here. You can imagine a situation which American politics are far. Less polarized and the popular vote loser electro winter then forms a kind of coalition government upon taking office. This is basically what happens with the Lincoln Administration right because we polarization because the person wants the presidency tends to govern for the sake of particular person ideological agenda it makes it even more important than a majority of the public has some has ascended to that agenda. Let me I was going to go to Bradley but I want to actually Bradley if you can a seed the moment to Tara because also turned the point into something the tower was talking about. Which was this whole issue of coalition building? So Tara How do you? How do you respond to Jamal's argument? Well we're just disagreeing on how well see this play out the way I see it. It's the reason that they do. Those things in those other countries is because they're looking for a way to ensure that a variety of voices is reflected in process and the art selecting one percents. I guess not a Prime Minister or we've had these. I guess I'm not understanding that Argument that look. The point is not Y- Americans unique. Were not just like any those countries in appropriate trying to be but the point is just to bring in a variety of voices. This is the one person who is expected to represent. All of us in America is a unique huge diverse country. The founders thought thirteen states with to diverse. Too Big for us to to possibly be self-governing is how they've seen it. They thought it would be dangerous. And of course they solve their problem by creating some of these checks and balances in our system including the Electoral College. But we need something special because if we have something special. What's GONNA end up happening is you're going to have a president who represents the protests grouper program room for the whatever it would you would just have nothing that would force people to come together in into to think about their fellow? Americans and what you have in common instead of what you have this different so Bradley. Djamil made the point in his opening statement that the thing was designed for a specific time and place in a very specific political situation or politics free situation and then it changed and basically saying thing that was designed for a situation two hundred thirty years ago. Has It's very very reasonable that its usefulness would be outdated and I WANNA ask you counterfactual question if there hadn't been an electoral college but we had the opportunity to create one now. Would we want to have an electoral college? I don't know right. We'd go into debate and I don't know but I think I can tell you this right. I. I WANNA point out responding to Jamal. He makes he addressed only kind of a minor part of my point which was countries that use proportional representation whereby way oftentimes the head of the government that leaves that coalition that forms after the election is not the party that got the most votes part second or third most votes but he ignores the part. That's most relevant which countries such as the United Kingdom New Zealand India Canada Australia. All of which use systems that do not rely on proportional representation and consistent coalition building created after the election results in each of those cases though you can win a majority and you could win the prime ministership or whatever. The office is called without having One a pure majority or even a plurality of the popular vote but what you have to win in all of those countries is a lot of votes and you have to in especially in a large country like the United States India Canada Australia geographically diverse countries. You have to win. Votes across a broad spectrum of interest you know. The United States is very very different. Montana is very different from New York City or New Jersey and you have to put together a coalition that can carry that full regime now if we go back to the original use of the Electoral College. All point out that many things we find over time have you. That are different than what we might have might have originally designed them to be. It may be that you know. Things are not the same as they were in eighteen hundred. It should be noted that the electoral college is not the same as the one that was created in seventeen. Eighty eight has been changed but I think has served us very very well. We're very stable country. And it's hard to find many countries that have as good a record of electing chief executives as we have in the United States. So let me bring in Kate. Shaw and Kate. You were the person who cited the put out the language there that the electoral college has this high rate of malfunction and your opponents dismissed the notion that there have been meaningful malfunctions so dig into that point. I'd like to hear more about what you mean by a malfunction what constitutes the system not working and. I think it ties back actually John into your first question. Which is there is this basic kind of political and moral intuition that the person who wins the most votes in an election ought to be victor in that election and I think the by the time the Electoral College get sort of realigned in first net. No three through the twelfth amendment but then over the decades of the nineteenth century in which states are basically assigning their lectures to simply follow the will of the voters of those states that he is the logic that is animating those developments though it is filtered through this prism of federalism because it is the majority of voters in the states as opposed the majority of the voters in the country that the electors to follow but Brad said in response to that he mentioned some of these comparative questions of how other countries do or don't implement this intuition that the person who gets the most votes ought to win but it is and he cited to come back to the domestic context added a couple of examples of US examples that are inconsistent with that general principle. And I think the two of course are the Senate which of course in terms of sort of your national vote share right of course could get the most votes in the country right in support of your political party and yet not control of the United States Senate right the Senate does not hugh to the basic logic of one person one vote right sort of basic political equality and majority rule and then the fact because of Gerrymandering I gather as what was referencing. That is actually true. In the house it is possible to get more votes nationwide and yet not to have your party control the outcome in the house and I guess I would just say that that those examples I the Senate is a historical anomaly in exactly the way that the electoral college is historical anomaly and it is inconsistent with contemporary values particularly political quality. And that's just not the values that I hold but ones that the supreme court in one person one vote cases has said are essential to our democracy and that we're there are exceptions or deviations from that principle there are specific articulate. Susan's for that and I'm just not sure any of the reasons given in defense. The electoral colleges deviation from that principle or at all persuasive. We'll be taking questions from the audience when we come back. I'm John Donavan and this is intelligence squared. Us We're in the middle of round two of this intelligence squared US debate. Now what's your question from the audience? I my name is Emily Stewart. I'm a reporter at box. So one thing that happens to me. Sometimes I write about the electoral college is that I get is writing the NCAA. Haley Gaulish it. Then what will happen? Is that only cities in blue states will get to decide elections. My question is how do you respond to those people that live in Nebraska Scott's interstates with less that would have less of a say? Thanks Emily very much for your question and I want to take that to kate. What's your response to that? Yeah I mean. I've heard that argument as well as a matter of numbers. Five biggest cities in the country. Have something like six percent of the population so I think there. Is this idea out there that if you went to a national popular vote that literally candidates would go to five cities and those five cities would determine the fate of the rest of us. And that just doesn't track the numerical reality presidents would have to work hard in many more states and currently work hard into a mass votes. Could they go to every rural county in every state of course? Not but you want to look at the way you run a real popular election across a broad geographic area you have fifty laboratories right governors have to win statewide and do they just go to the two or three or four or five. They cities and their states. Of course not. We all have to concede with some humility that we don't know precisely how national a truly national presidential campaign would play out. But I do think it's easy to dismiss the suggestion that few cities would run the show. I think there's also an important conceptual to make under national pop thir- election state voting will matter for state offices but forty national opposite will not be necessarily relevant but the borders of your state are in so someone in Wyoming or Montana. They're state isn't necessarily. The relevant union of political action is them as an individual lines of connection and affiliation in political interests aren't actually state by state in the framework recognize. This Madison made this exact point in terms of the Senate. I'd like to go to another audience question. And this one comes from Dylan Dylan. Welcome to intelligence squared. And please tell us your question. When the founding fathers created the electoral college one of the chief functions they initiative performed with that of a failsafe against the sometimes poor judgment of popular opinion electors could step in to prevent the presidency from quote from. Federalists sixty eight falling into the lot of any man who is not an imminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. There's never been a meaningful enough number of faithless electors for the body to perform this function. Is there a way to reform the college? So it can perform these functions or are there alternative constitutional arrangements that we can make to prevent unqualified candidates from succeeding? Okay thank you Dylan and your question goes to you. Know what's the solution for the future which is not strictly speaking what we're debating. But what I found in your question was your presumption that the founding fathers didn't trust democracy didn't trust the general public to make wise decisions and that the original concept was that there would be a group of wise men and white men in that particular case but that their wisdom was the thing that was that would qualify them for this role of choosing the president for us in the long run since we started a little bit going back to the beginning. I'd like to go to you Bradley. That notion I think inherent in that and I think. Dillon likes the idea that the electoral college was meant to protect us from irrational choices. Made by the public and this is what the Supreme Court cases about now they should be able to make choices based on their consciences rather than reflecting the popular. Well this brings up a lot of different points but I tend to think that yes. They thought electrode used their judgment. But it would be very rare that you would want electors to go against the will of their state as expressed by their voters right. A lot of people look at for example two thousand sixteen and think that they may be they think that Donald trump should not have been elected. President elect should've turned against him. Well how would trump's voters have reacted to that? What would that do toward a sense of how the country is is operating? So I generally ben in favor of the notion that in fact electors are not bound but at the same time it would be very very rare that you would want any lecture to go against the understanding that people bring into the election that if my partner Mike candidate carries my state. That's how my electors are going to vote. I thought you said in your opening statement that you do not believe that the founding fathers were worried about Marlboro. That's I think I think when it comes to the notes of the convention the the regulations of the people who were there. It's clear that that was not their primary concern that there were thinking really in practical terms when it comes for to justifying the electoral college to the voters to ratify the constitution. This was one of the arguments Hamilton in particular us to to defend the electoral college thing. I WANNA COME TO A in Bradley's answer to the question is the faithless liked. I liked your question. In the sense that the voters would be state to have the expectation that Faithless electors meaning electors who do not vote in accordance with the partisan decision of the state or of the majority of voters in the state. So it I live. In Virginia. The Virginia votes for Joe Biden this November and one of Joe Biden's electors cast their vote for Donald Trump. That electorate be a faithless elector but this expectation that voters mistakes. That that that the Lakers vote in the court. The partisan choice of the state I think sits at cross purposes with this idea that the electoral college is meant to enhance the representation of political minorities in the country. Right if you live in a state where fifty point. One percent of the voters supported one candidate in forty nine point. Nine percent of the voters support the other candidate under the rules as exist. That forty nine point. Nine percent is politically disenfranchised and I I would. I would ask Listeners watchers to consider the extent to which if you don't agree with getting the Electoral College that the winner take all rules that we've adopted that we've grafted onto this institution. They seem to it's bay. Serve to rob. Millions of people have meaningful political representation in every state of the Union. You want to jump into this or do you want pass. I would just take one beat to say. There's a distinction. I think between a scheme that races duly cast votes the way. Our current state based Electoral College team does and a system in which you simply failed successfully carry a majority support for position. And I think that of course no one is claiming that any party that loses in a majoritarian contest is thereby disenfranchise But that there's a distinction between losing genuine and fair majoritarian contests and losing in a scheme in which certain votes are simply not relevant and effectively. Not counted going to push back on. Some of this will give liberties disenfranchised. We have changed how we think about this election but the fact of the matter is that we are talking about state level elections not one national election in that state level election for presidential elector. There are winners or losers also. This is not permanent situation and several other states that that were mentioned here. As as being supposedly in movable for like they'll never be able to make their voices heard so solidly Republican. We'll know they voted for Clinton. Not that long ago again. The Electoral College is balance. And how you balance things out over the country and you know for the rural voters in New York who probably feel really awful represented in their state. Government were in their presidential election. Well there are a rover voters in small city voters in small states and other parts of the country. They're getting a flame a little bit. It all balances out in that the end of the game the day. What we have is a system that reflects the variety of voices in this nation in data indicate. Okay and that concludes round two of this intelligence squared. Us debate we are about to hear brief. Closing statements. By each debater intern. So let's move onto round three closing remarks and here to make his statement closing the argument. The Electoral College has outlived its usefulness. Is Jim Buoy Jamila once again? The screen is all yours. I've mentioned at the beginning of our remarks throughout this conversation. Bat Not long after the the founding twenty thirty years later Some surviving people who participated all of this particular. James Madison and Thomas Jefferson decimated. How the Electoral College played out. They worried that winner. Take all the hyper partisanship involved We create unnecessary factionalism that it would create a political division that it would lead to the represent. Underrepresentation of political minorities encouraged presidencies. Don't actually govern for the entire nation and it's true that there have been large parts. Large Swath of this country sister were we have avoided some of the things but because of polarization happening in our culture not just in our politics but in our culture that the collection of ills that result from this Extra method of selecting the President One. That wasn't designed kind of just emerged as we as we as are politics emerged as we've become more polarized we been subject to these ills. More and more people genuinely believe that there are some how red states in blue states that. If you live in in New York that you are there for a Manhattan liberal that if you live in Wyoming that you are a rule conservative in Americans I feel have forgotten that political diversity exists in every state of the Union. That coalitions can be built across regions in the Cross states. That interests are ness tied. The state lines tied To things that go beyond them support the colleges outlived its usefulness in part because it's no wonder useful to think of another politics in these kind of bridge terms. Were to polarized and what the electoral college does is enhanced that polarization. And if you don't want to enhance it I think you should go on our side. Thanks very much Djamil our next speaker will be speaking against the resolution in her closing statement. Here is Tara. Ross going to ask everybody to put themselves in the face of the founders in a way that they've never done before the founders lived at any moment time they had just fought a war for self governance. Governance was really really important to them. They laid their lives on the line. They've lost fathers and sons and they also knew something else that we have forgotton okay. It's not enough to be self-governing. They knew that they again. The seat at the table impairment than they would have been outvoted time and time again by the majority of citizens at home in England so the founders had had problems fortunately the founders also lived a unique moment in time where there were a partisan interest. There was no Republican Party Democratic Party. What they had to help them with their knowledge of history and their knowledge of human nature and they knew that power corrupts. They knew what worked what had not worked in other democracies that came before them so they came up with a unique solution and the unique solution is our constitution which is incredibly blend of some democratic self government fast factors but also some Republican factor. Small art deliberation compromise in federalism states acting estates. This unique blend ensures that we can be a huge shivers country. The still manages to govern itself without ignoring some part of the country so that let's Polish has not outlived its usefulness because we are if anything greater and more diverse than we were before we are more in need of a unique solution to this problem of. How do you combine self-governance? With an avoidance the majority so I urge you to vote no on the resolution thank you. Tara and our next debater will be arguing on the opposite side once again for the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness here is Kate Shaw thank you so look the ideals of both genuinely representative democracy and of basic political equality are ones. We have moved ever closer to throughout the country's history in perfectly inconsistently but steadily and it is not return to something that Brad said at the outset that in a democracy like ours everything must be put to a popular vote. Think about the role of courts in our system right who often do sit to invalidate laws passed by majorities in Congress or the states but in general and particularly when we were talking about elections any deviation from basic principles of representative democracy and political equality require genuine and compelling justifications and instead what we seem to be hearing our post hoc justifications of this idiosyncratic scheme that we happen to have today look to make one final point that actually turns a bit away from what we've been mostly talking about today. The presidency today is a massively powerful institution. We can debate. How well that power fits within our constitutional scheme? We can debate the wisdom of having a presidency like today's President. But no one should want an unchecked president. So it's important to ask how the mechanisms that operate to check. The president have performed in recent years and a word I would say they have performed badly. Take Congress important rival of the president it has been lax at best in its oversight of the president. Whatever you thought of the impeachment case against President trump one big takeaway seem to be. It's impossible to impeach convict and remove a president if his party or even a good number of CO partisans control the Senate Courts as well have been extraordinarily deferential to the president and when those institutions have failed to act to check the president. They have frequently done so pointing out that the most important check on the present is at the ballot box that he's the only person in our constitutional scheme who is elected by the people as a whole and so long as we have the Electoral College. That's actually not the system that we have at the ballot box isn't a real check on the president and none of these other operate. We actually don't have a president. We have a king and that is about as far as you can get from the idea of America so please I urge you to vote. Yes on the resolution. Thank you kate. Shaw and finally making his closing argument against the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness arguing against Bradley Smith. I WanNa thank everyone for watching. I Kate for their thoughts. The great political scientists Walter Burns went said in all the years. I have engaged on this issue. I have yet to encounter. A critic of the Electoral College argues that president chosen by direct. Popular vote is likely to be a better president. The goal of our Constitution is good. Government and the purpose of the electoral college is to elect good presidents. We love to bash our presidents. And that's okay so uniquely American thing to do but if we set aside our partisanship and skepticism. We see that our list of chief executives is probably unrivalled by any country. Save possibly the United Kingdom which also allows the second-place finisher in the popular vote to win the Prime Minister's office. It's not just early. Presidents Washington Adams Jefferson Madison Monroe but mid twentieth and nineteenth century presents. Like polk and Lincoln and Cleveland McKinley and twentieth century. Presence like Wilson the Roosevelt's and coolidge in the postwar period. Truman and I can Kennedy and Reagan. Gw Bush and Clinton and Obama and while all of us will disagree with any number of them on policy leaving their side. That's pretty distinguished group when it comes to Rog -secutive talent so I often hear an argument to go something like this. If you could go back in time would you adopt the Electro College? My answer is simple. I said it earlier. I don't know what I would have done if I better delegates to the constitutional convention but I know this if I were transported back in time. September seventeen eighty seven and wash the delegates walk out of Independence Hall. I hope that I would have the good sense not to lecture. The likes of Washington Madison. Franklin James Wilson and Alexander Hamilton about how to Structure Successful Republic. And how like they had been and not anointing. Direct election by plurality vote of the electorate as the sole legitimizing principle for Chief Executive. We should not fear change but when something has a long distinguished pedigree and as created such a prosperous free societies. We live in. We should be very careful and humble before tossing it aside so I urge people to vote no on this resolution remember. The extra college doesn't outlive. Its usefulness just because our favorite son hasn't won a couple of elections. Thanks very much Bradley. Smith and that concludes round three of our intelligence squared debate. Now it's time to declare a winner. Remember it's the side that changes the most minds between the first and the second votes that is declared our winner we've had two votes now on the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived its usefulness. Here's how it went in the first vote. Sixty three percent of our audience agreed with the resolution. Twenty three percent were against it and fourteen percent were undecided so the team for the motion there. I was sixty three percent. Their second vote was seventy percent. The foreside pulled up seven percentage points. That's the number to beat. Let's look at the team against the resolution. Their first vote was twenty three percent. Their second vote was twenty eight percent. That's five percentage points not quite enough to win. It means the team arguing for the resolution Jamal Buoy and Kate. Shaw have one our debate by getting more of you to switch to the side saying yes to the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness. I WanNa thank you all for joining us. Thank our debaters and I want you all to remember that the online voting is still going on at Iq to US dot org so go cast your second vote right now. Thank you for tuning into this episode of intelligence squared. 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"Grievously on the Tony. Kornheiser show nineteen seventeen and once upon a time in America. God and I assume they'll be nominate Hollywood once upon a time. Hollywood were big winners winter. He knows absolutely insult disagree. Agree I don't really need to thank anyone road I wrote myself. I mean I know they're enlist of punishable faces but he's got a right to me. One step away from Raleigh as a very punishable facing doug this is General George Washington. And you're listening to the tune Kornheiser. We got snow in the forecast today. In Washington DC. We'll talk about that later in the show as I panic about the car that I had never driven snow before David Aldridge. Assia Torie Clarke has found her voice and she is back with us. Michael Cornell's you're sitting in a child seat. This is unacceptable. Well tell me tell me what happened why do you. Why are you sitting in a child? I've had the same chair since we moved to this out of date little studio and I come in today. It has no lever to go up or down. I'm stuck down. Is this not the chair you've been sitting in before no I think this is a personal affront. So you think someone moved your chair or stole your chair from the studio though no one is supposed to come into the someone's been staking out the studio knows where I sit and waiting for the perfect time. Do we have any accident. Paul easing no. We've known installed the The simply safe system with video cameras. Why don't we do that? We don't we advertise simply safe. Why don't why don't we actually get that hook up and put it in here? That would be fantastic because we would be able to record everyone. We want all the movements in the studio. That's call simply safe and in fact get that okay. I didn't five minutes with him last week question. Let's get that there's a chair over there. Not Do you want to big because Michael Sits in equality lacks here. That will take just one key piece of equipment. Yes right at knee level. Yes which the master lock one button. You know set questions if we checked out any British women if they come into the studio just thermostats Ralph we go. I'm serious. I don't want this bill bill. Did I ran into him in the in the hallway just a moment ago he said after the show. Let's have a meeting about the chair. Okay that's great right this letter. I'm just GonNa read you. The letter comes to my house. Yesterday opened up. It's a wedding invitation. The wedding of Morgan Rector and Blake prints on Saturday October. Tober nineteenth two thousand nineteen. So That's past four in the afternoons ceremony at the vineyards at duplin winery or Dublin. Winery in Rose Hill North North Carolina. You don't where Rosehill is north North Carolina Person No need. I Know Rock Hill South Carolina. I don't know Rose Hill North Carolina anyway. The letter who says the woman to whom I'm related by marriage and I would like to posthumously. Invite you to the Prince. Rector wedding on October nineteenth two thousand nine hundred and Roseau North Carolina at the duplin. Winery and I like David stumbled over the work posthumously. 'cause I I looked in the mirror I was breathing posthumously. Means you're debt. uh-huh means you're dead. You're not dead in a metaphor accents. You're actually physically dead. Billy Crystal said he has no health right. This is within driving distance so no no need to have a drug into his flight. The reason this invitations taking so long arrived us. We didn't know whether to send it to the restaurant. Formerly known as chatter or one of your several new locations. We hope this arrives none. The less you shows podcasts of brought numerous laughs through the years and we thank you for this. We wish you the best and hope you continued success and health. Why didn't have any help? So I was was dead according to this letter. PS My best man. Samuel Scott is the reason I discovered your podcast these loyal little and has been for many years with love. Shoutout Samuel Scott. Please see the included wedding invitation return envelopes. Should you choose to do so happy holidays. And thanks again. Blake and Morgan Prince so we can mail this out. Everybody who was here has assign this. I was a little disturbed at being referred to posthumously. Rosehill home of the world's largest frying pan. What who else was in contention stirred? Let's get the. Let's get the city together and try and build the biggest frying pan in America or the world. Anyway that came to my house which is a little unnerving a little. I was going to ask you address to the address of chatter but it actually cheer how came to my house. We have a lot to talk about today. nationally and locally will will hold off on the local will offer the snow forecast and the nats moves and other things. And we'll start nationally with Mike McCarthy getting a job in Dallas you should. I don't know if you should I to me as quickly as he got the job. In other words they had settled settled on getting rid of Jason Garrett but had made no public announcement whatsoever and and while people talked about the possibility. The of one of three college coaches Matt Rule at Baylor who. I'm sure Jerry Jones has watched locally. I think this is second year at Baylor. He was at temple. I think he was the Miami. Maybe as well I'm not sure about that. Lincoln Riley who's been spectacular success in Oklahoma and Urban Meyer. Who despite the fact that I loathe him personally personally is a great football coach and has won National Championships? The two places man like Lick Urban Meyer. He Ain't gonNA coach long but he's pretty any good coach. So all of those things are being bandied about in the media and they signed Mike McCarthy quickly they interview you to people they interview Mike McCarthy and they interview Marvin Lewis so they. Don't they interview Marvin Lewis to satisfy the Rooney rule. Because they want Mike McCarthy thank you can you know we can. We can talk about politics. All we want about the Rooney rule which is good rule even if it results in nothing because it forces people to interview the people but if I own a team you can't tell me who to hire you know if I love a guy like the steelers loved Mike Tomlin and they hired mm-hmm and those things happen but you know Dan Snyder loves Ron Rivera and he hired him. You can't force people to interview people. That's good you widen. Lighten the prospective cast of people. Who can work for you? But you can't if you own the team I don't think you can tell people to hire and it's clear they simply want it. They used Marvin Lewis to hire Mike McCarthy. So Mike McCarthy's hire a few things to say about Mike McCarthy. He won a super bowl. This stuff doesn't grow on trees. He went and one super bowl. He had two great quarterbacks at Green Bay to whole fame guys he had had red dwarf and he had Aaron. Rogers he fell out with Aaron Rodgers after a while as people. Do you know as these things happen. But his career record is like something like one hundred twenty five and seventy five. Yeah it's probably one of the top ten winning percentages of all time right. The packers candle. He did not do what others do. He did not pedal his rear end on television immediately. Like a lot of people do to stay relevant to to try and get another demand on television was. He's not very good on but you know what he laid out because he knew he knew somebody was going to give him a job. Because that record record is that record so you're GonNa get a job And if you think if you own the cowboys and you think Dak Prescott has potential to be a great quarterback. Those guys work guys worked with great quarterbacks. You can't tell me he didn't help them. He had to have helped them a little bit. So that's the higher and Dan. He's a SCHLUB. Mike McCarthy on you know he is but Jerry Jones a lot of people say well. You can't work with Jerry Jones. But if you don't want want the spotlight and Jerry Jones takes the spotlight that works out. David Tori thoughts. Fine good coach. They'll be well coached. I you know. It's good higher surprised at bringing Mike Nolan. I didn't even know Mike Nolan was. He's my age so I was still viable the defensive coordinator but it's You know that's a good higher. It's a solid higher. It's not like Jerry to hire kind of Schlub as you mentioned but but McCarthy's a very good coach so they will be you better coach than they've been in the past now. Does that mean they'll take a big leap next year. I'm not sure it's is tough to coach that team. Yeah the spotlight is on you. It's not a local spotlight's on you from everywhere. Well try it's it's everywhere Leslie so yeah so I have a question guys said and completely superficially when I know about this but it seems like such a different place in such a different culture than green. Green Bay He's he's born and raised in Pittsburgh right well. I don't even know where there I know. There aren't opening Pittsburgh. But if you told me this Guy Mike. McCarthy from Green Bay was going to Pittsburgh or Cleveland and Dallas. That's a national spot. And that's a buttoned up place and they're all spiff -I sharp and he's not so he's not got yeah culture matters. He's a he's a coach. I I think that Working for Jerry his hard and I think even though Mike McCarthy thinks thanks while I'll let jerry talk to everybody wants a won't bother me at all. I think it will jerry. Jones is omnipresent. 'cause she'll be scrutinized every second year in the gym. It's it's like being mcbean the quarterback at a cowboys. Yes the hardest single job in football. Everybody's looking at everything you do and everything you saying. It's not just what you do. That's something tough thing to do. Thoughts now the one thing that you you might talk about the culture shift from Green Bay to Dallas in terms of what what the teams embody going down to what the ownership structure looks. Looks like in the expectations to meet is comes down to. They're gonNA make some more big spends his offseason and the expectations are going to be sky high and you just wonder about other the other weight of winning you have. That's a half to win right now. Azoun as you'd now the division is going to be much better next. You're not going to say it's going to be you say what it used bodies. They're going to be a lot better in. Washington will have some stability onto it. Yes and the giant should have some stability to it as well and they might get hit right so you just wonder what then happens. How quickly does it deteriorate if they don't say when now? And how quickly does some rift what happened. The the. The question of the Aaron Rodgers relationship is going to. I think is going to grow if there is any question of the personalities clashing clashing between distant Atkins owner. Yeah no I guess Tori has. How many spots are left for urban? Meyer the to the giants in Cleveland. Most reasonable spot thought given Ohio state. Yeah is Cleveland. But you don't WanNa work with those people. Don't WanNa work with that owner. I mean you're going to be there very right right. You know. Yeah okay. There's one other one other piece of news in football. National Football to Tonga. Vilo has cleared for the draft Mel Kiper today puts him basically in the top five. Says he's the third best player on the board behind Joe Borough and As young and he says that the dolphins could take him at five in the charges could take him at six. I think he's damaged goods if Obama. GM and I've talked. I've a pick in the top five. I'm afraid eight is not that I don't want him at his best. Sure I do. I'm afraid he's had the same operation to either ankle within within a year and then he broke his hip on what looked like a fairly routine Tackle he broke his hip. He can't go to the combine physically. He's not not his doctors won't let him. You can measure them but the knock on do anything else. You draft him in the top five. So it's your ear tone many of you. Drafting a mayor draft in Richard. This year they'll be your starting quarterback in twenty twenty one. That's the plan would be my plan. Would you be afraid of making that pick. Because you think that he's injury pro would certainly have to look at every injury and see if they were one offs. Or if there's a if there's some sort of chronic pattern here but I don't know a hip scares me. Because Bo Jackson went out with you know now. Ankles don't scare me you get better from ankles but scares me. You know you gotTa look at that. The keeping his ankles plural. And you start to go away. Is there just a compromise system with them saying you gotta find out you have to really do your due diligence medically. I don't care. If he doesn't play combined nobody throws it the combat anymore quarterback's throw to combine anymore But you you do need to know about every one of these major injuries and why they happened. Draft is in April or May. I don't think he's not gonna be able to even have a pro day. No so you're drafting him on speculation. You drafted him on film. You've wash three years of film on Him. That's right not six months he can fling it. But that's also what the draft is if you're willing to waist or use one of those top to your picks on a quarterback you're drafting him on SPEC fifty percent of them do not pan out and now you look at the way. So what's the best case scenario. You get a franchise quarterback who's going to be the leader of your team for hopefully ten Chinese and maybe you can squeeze one or two championships out of that but have some good runs. That doesn't happen all that often. And now you're seeing how you have these second chance quarterbacks who are able to fill the gap if say you take the chance. Try and take him higher. Hope it works for the best. And if it doesn't I I don't like talking about bodies this way but it's just a body and you can plug in another quarterback until you take another guess on this with the Redskins ever get him no. I don't think so I would be shocked at this. They have the picket to They're not gonNA Follow Twain Haskins with another quarter. I wouldn't Rivera. I mean I you know He. He was not exactly glowing in his about Haskins but he didn't dismiss him either. I mean I it depends on whether you keep McConnell and now there's a lot of things moving parts and the owner is still the owner and the owner wanted. Haskins lashed likes them so I can't imagine they're gonNa go away from him. Don't you think they gave chase young. I mean the Guy I think defend I would a defensive coach. You see somebody who's in. Potentially Ron Rivera played linebacker for the BS. I mean this Guy Flips the board if he's as good as everybody said and he's local which is a problem because that's a second local kid that the owner can fall in love with and that's true so we'll see all right so that's what I thought we would talk about now begin with outstanding on. 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Yes yes who did email me himself saying yes. Oh God he's planning zone. That's sort of the deal of his hotdogs Jason Lockenfora CBS. Sports joins us. Now got a lot of questions following up on the beginning of the show where we talked about Mike. McCarthy your thoughts on Mike McCarthy going to the cowboys and what it means to coach not only under the scrutiny of Dallas and the entire nation to have to work with Jerry Jones for whom the spotlight is oxygen. What do you think of all this? Yeah look I think You know we've talked a lot about how much jerry fancies Jerry's roster at how much Jerry thinks of the Dallas football cowboys. I I think ultimately this is an indication of that Once again he thought about Lincoln Riley and Matt Role and some of these college guys who might have extreme upside and might be you know guys at the vanguard of not so much for rule in this case but more was Lincoln Riley Guy who's at the vanguard of everything going on and modern offense a football and someone who might be fairly revolutionary. Aren't you may also be a colossal flop. And I think he decided look for the team. I have which again he goes into every year thinking. He's got one of the best rosters in the league. Well well Mike. McCarthy makes some sense and guys one over one hundred games but in the playoffs a bunch of times. You know. Done good work with quarterbacks throughout his career even before he he you know became a head coach so for for Jerry. It's like okay. This might be a little bit plug and play and I don't want to take any risks. I don't want to put this in the hands ends of somebody who might not be up to the task. is it the most inspired higher in the world. No but it look. He's got Mike. McCarthy has a very a strong resume so I get it as for McCarthy side of tone I mean look he he's used to working in a situation where there's extreme separation of church and state. He wasn't a guy was able to go into Ted Thompsons Office when he was coaching. The Green Bay packers even when he became established coach. Bang on the door yell kicking screaming. I need this. I need that I need this. I need that not not that. I think that that's Mike's makeup anyway. But that was never going to happen. He didn't have an owner in Green Bay. You know you have. This is board of Governors Board of directors situation. You have a team president and you have GM but they're they they have extreme You know sort word of keeping football and coaching separate so this is a very different in that now he has a GM also the owner. Who's going to say and do any darn thing he wants but in terms of the the power structure and and sort of the You know the the leash that he gets the leeway way that he would get to flex his muscles one way or the other in that regard. It's not really that different. Do you think it will work with Jerry Jones. It's difficult difficult. It didn't like bill parcells after a while. Said you know what am I doing here. So to- define work. Wh what constitutes work working or being successful successful That you that you have shared understanding that while Jerry Jones has the power because he's the owner that he listens to you that his goals Are Your goals that he is not dismissive. And that you don't have to wake up every single morning going. Oh my God. He said that last night right w honeymoon period and then and also you know depending on how many games they win and specifically how many games in January they win there will also come a point. Where you're like God I'm sick of my owner slash? GM creating starting fires. Where there there aren't any? You know what I mean or saying something on the radio or something on. TV that was an unforced error. You know that now is a mess that I need to clean up in my locker room like that is certainly going to happen. I mean Jerry is not going to stop being Jerry. You know now at at age eighty or whatever he's Jerry degree and Jerry's mind again. This is a home run because Jerry picked the coach would happen not work like I. You know what I mean like Jerry. Stephen Stephen doing what they do. So He's GonNa think next year is our year next year is always our year But he's also showed himself to be incredibly loyal and it's not like Mike. McCarthy is a complete unknown to him. I mean Mike McCarthy for a decade was that owner meetings you know you Hobnob a little bit you run into people at the cocktail L. Party on the golf course You know so. I think they both know what they're getting into now. Do I think they're going to win. A Lombardi together. I I have my reservations because nobody really comes close to win Lombardi's in Dallas and it wasn't just about Jason Garrett was he part of the problem yeah he was but ultimately the team is is. I won't say never but very very very rarely as good as the owner slash. GM fancies them when the when that person's expectations are perpetually skewed. It makes life difficult for everyone. Let me go to some of the people whose names were mentioned and may or may not have been called but certainly didn't get the Job Kevin. I'm GonNa just go to Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer has vast credentials. It's in another form of football because it's college but they are vast credentials urban Meyer GonNa end up in the NFL this year. I'll just go back to what I've been reporting for quite a while. Now if he has any shot at all it's in Cleveland. I never saw him in Dallas. He was sort of you know shaking. It flaunt dance over in the corner. Hoping Jerry at the bar would catch his eye but was never going to happen. I I just. There's too much extreme You know blow up potential like That has the that that could be a total disaster. I mean that could be a situation where there's thirty year old men you know at the trade deadline going up to Jerry's office in a procession saying get me out of here. This is not what I signed up for. This is not professional national grade That doesn't mean it will stop. Jimmy has them from doing it. I just don't think Jerry Whatever whatever really consider it The only only college coach who's on the Panthers Radars Matt Rule and I haven't heard of any other college coach being on the giants radar other than that role. But Jimmy does have a strong relationship with urban Meyer. It goes back aways And that's a situation. Where and most Brown's coaching searches have been this way? They can't get some of the guys is they. Want it the beginning and then they end up hiring somebody who who you know frankly nobody else was high like nobody else in the League was hiring ruptured Linski to be their head coach when they hired nobody else in the League was I know there was always room. The giants might hire Hugh Jackson. Oh you better get in there fast. Oh I'm sorry that was not happening. nobody was hiring Mike Patton and nobody besides him. What Higher Urban Meyer? That does not mean that after he interviews these three other guys this week that he might not make a phone call to urban and ask him about these other guys and find himself an hour later hiring urban okay. Let me get to. I think the story that will be highest on the radar for the next five ons. Brady Tom Brady. What happens with Tom? I mean there's two questions intertwined what happens with Tom. Brady and in fact does bill belichick. uh-huh want him back. All is under SORTA Consideration All under review. My my reporting on this for again and months has been that there is a level of frustration from Tom in that man at age. Forty three I gotta do more with less us. You know what I mean like. When does the one does the script flip And why why do I have. I mean you just list their skill players and then start looking looking at other rosters. Tell me who they're better than like I might buy Jacksonville now I might buy that You know I'm I'm no I'm not GONNA by Detroit. There's not many like there may not be any when you really size it up and when you look at speed And the endgame breaking being elements or match up problems. There's none and they went from having a guy who was top ten matchup problem Gronk to nobody anybody would ever think about doubling. And that's an issue that's not going to change in one off season you know. And that his core Bill Belichick is they defense special teams guy. He doesn't embrace offensive players easily and all things being equal his assets are going to go to the other side. Because while I've always had had Tom Brady and he and Josh will always figure it out. Well Josh is leaving the building. Josh mcdaniels our offensive coordinator Atoms another year older. And I mean there's nothing there's nothing there you can hang your hat on and if you're Tom Brady and you're saying well you know this is my legacy at stake and I've only got a few years left and I want to do it someplace. Someplace where It's fun and I have a cast around me that I can depend on. Who can help me a little bit? That's not their Could could be the LA chargers and and that's the one that I've heard for a while. That checks boxes. Tom Brady on the family side on the business business side and on the football side. You can see Tom Brady in another uniform. Absolutely who who has left New England and it's all roses and cupcakes come by and he's sitting on Bella checks having a joint press conference while they quote Unquote Parkway's. That's not how it goes and a specially not there where you're fighting history. You're fighting goes. You're trying to get that seventh one however you can or or. You're trying to reinvent yourself from week to week and from on the Patriots side of it because of all the roster flaws that I just mentioned is a forty three year old chronically. A mobile quarterback the right guy for them. Or if we're not going to be able to all of a sudden get two outside receivers a young slot guy in case that'll mean gets hurt. Probably a running back Sony Michelle. I don't know if you can count on them and a center senator and maybe a left tackle or do we deal with some of those laws and find our twenty two year old. Who can run like the wind and can you know can can yeah? We'll make a few mistakes but he can move the pocket. We can do different things. We can reinvent ourselves offensively. 'cause all we really if we had Josh Allen with fewer turnovers. That's maybe that's all we need. We just need two or three explosive. Plays out of the quarterback a game and we can win with defense and special teams I don't know tone but it's all under review. It's being talked about on both sides. Judge Robert Kraft will try to be the great mediator. But I don't think there's any chance in hell of Tom. Brady doesn't at least strongly consider options other than the New England patriots for the first time in his career. That's a complete. Wow to me honestly. And he doesn't have much to work with. I mean if I believe that if Gronkowski had played Antonio Brown at played the full season they'd be in the Super Bowl the super bowl but superman's I agree with you completely. The crazy thing about Antonio Brown was thinking about this on the train ride home the other nights if Pittsburgh them now and I'm not vouching for him if I'm an owner of NFL team. He can't play for me. That's why this is the NFL. And he you know played for briefly. A A bunch of people still had the probably in the playoffs right. The raiders still had a five-way parlay to get into week seventeen without them if they had them they're probably the sixth seed if buffalo had remember they tried to trade for him and he nixed it. They beat the Texans. If New England had them and everybody other than craft wanted to bring him back in the building even after everything that happened the first time they certainly at least beat the titans. I mean it is it is kind of crazy I get you out of here on this. I was going to talk about the saints but I'm not going to bother I want to just to get your thoughts on Carson Wentz. WHO's beginning increasingly to look like a Shakespearean tragic? Yeah it's it's bad luck I don't know how else to couch it or explain it He's not doing anything anything wrong. He's not doing anything to Track this or to make this happen. It's just happening. And and sometimes I guess that's just the way it happens. And you know what they say. These things happen in threes. I mean I hope for his sake. This is this is is it Thought it was a dirty hit by clammy. I thought it was something that cloudy could've easily avoided at the very least And I I don't know tone He he's just he's just had a series of very unfortunate things happen to him physically on a football field I don't think he's injury prone I mean he got hit in the back of the head from guys he coming. I'm I'm excited to do the right thing. And just get down. I mean I just feel terrible form because he he he keeps getting to the stage. You know whether it's the playoff push on a team that you think could win it off or here where. He's finally in the playoffs for the first time and he has to exit the game with three yards passing through. You know no no no error or fault of his own It just I can't figure it out. You know what I mean. I I guess sometimes it it happens I. I don't think it can happen forever. I don't think that we know that. Oh this is the story of his career. That's who he is. This is what happens to him because he still you know very much at the beginning but I just I just feel terrible. I you know you you could see that he was up for it I thought that was going to be a heck again. It's still compelling football game but I thought it was going to be four quarters of him and Russell Wilson Plan. Anything you can do. I can do better and unfortunately for Carson. He didn't get that opportunity. I'll just say this enclosing that it makes me appreciate Russell. Wilson's ability to slide is so valuable. It makes me appreciate eight. He's a baseball player. Who knows how exactly but he does? This stuff does not happen to him because he slides earlier he does he needs. He's great at it as much smaller smaller different market than Carson. Wentz as well and I think as much is heat as Russell took coming into the league about his size I do think it helps them at times. He's a little more compact when he goes down. It's kind of. It's not like an accordion where it's opening up. You know what I mean. It just seems like we're also has a way of getting even smaller I agree yeah. It's just I feel terrible for Carson Man. It would have been a different football game. I think had he been able to play. Thank you Jason. You gotTa fuck next week copper for. We'll do thanks guys. It's the only show that says say hi to dog. This is great go We will take a break. We'll come back with news. Yes there was news today. We are back in our normal format. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the frame bridge aired. 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You think the wizards do they put a lot of guys don't even necessarily belong in the NBA. The G. League players and they play hard. They play hard all the time Did they've got these guys. I went back and forth. I watched a little here in a little there and they maintain this lead over Boston. Bradley beal did not play really Gotcha. More of their number one pick did not play The Latvian laser. I don't know where he went back to land on the bench. He doesn't play injured. These hurt it allows guys are hurt either people I have never heard of. I've never heard of them. Then they beat Denv Denver's good. They beat Tim Boston's could Miami Miami. They beat teams. They lose the teams. I shouldn't lose to but then I shouldn't say that they're not a good team there. The wizard what I would ask. Is this Scott Brooks looks what do you think. He's learning from what they're doing right now. Anything or when the players get back to they take forty minutes. I think he's learning that you have to you have to play. Young is to keep your job. Because that's the way they're going now and you can't sicher first round. Pick in mothballs for half the season like he did last year. And he's letting Troy Brown play now. Enjoy Brown's playing well and ish miss. They signed his playing extremely well. So it's it's been remarkable. Tony I mean the last eight days. They've beaten three teams who were in the top two in their respective conferences. That's pretty good for a team. That has no players right now. I have no players and it's not vehicles they have no plan. And you know you can dismiss Denver Denver. DEUCE didn't show up Okay but Boston showed it up. They wanted to play and have walker but the which is going really come on. You're talking about injuries. You're still brown and tatum theb running tatum and Marcus. Smart and all their most also guys Miami have their whole team so no they're playing well and Spoelstra said after the game last week when everybody was trying to get him to say how bad his team unplayed. He's like no. No Washington played. Well that's why they won the game so I look around at that team and I think to myself if I were Scott Brooks what I would learn is a more even distribution of minutes because you put these guys in for twenty minutes. They give you their hearts That that's that's that's I watched. They give their hearts. I don't think talent for talent. They're no good. But they're beating good teams because their most coaches his play their starters thirty three to forty minutes a game. There's nobody on his team. Good enough to play forty minutes a game get them in get them out right. Yeah and you you know. What are we been carping about about the was for years? They just don't they don't seem like they play hard every night. Well these guys were much less talented. Do play hard. They're happy happy for the opportunity. To of course I watched him so happy for them. A again Alexandros my knowledge. They beat Boston. They beat Denver. She said very good teams. They played some defense. Miami is as many more blocks last night and I'll take scrappy over talent and diva any day and they'll very scrappy the gay. I was kind of going back and forth last night but the first half really really good and Brian Nick went. Oh yeah well. There's there's no way they're going to hold on here and they held on the equate. I'm very happy for them. So The the one of the problems is if you put Mahim Ni and Banga out there at the same time zero point and talk about my God Banga Zero an in crushing Banga zero point. I'll know Bonga starting to score now. He started going to the basket. He's got a little spin little heart eight. No I think it's like fifteen at against instead ver I think the other night I mean. He's not going to ever be a great score but if he can score just a little bit he has so long defensively. Nobody has turned the corner on him all season. And he's guarded real people like Jamal. Murray like real people who can score in this league would it. Would it be feasible for them him to go out and get sort of that glue guy to rally them like Dwight. Howard is Marco? Foltz had a career best twenty. Five points is the magic for mark took out the Brooklyn Nets. Yeah that was. Yeah no so these are my questions. KILTER WHO's local here is had a horrible just could not have a worse experience. Being the number one draft pick Alpha and they ain't day felt right away he can't play and maybe he had injuries and maybe had psychological problems. Whatever he's now in the middle of nowhere is in Orlando? I guess yes but at twenty five last night which is a career. Hi and his shot which was like ungodly bad when he started with Philadelphia. You can't score twenty-five candidate anything right. He's he's you know he he went to your high school. He did what do you. What is the prognosis for him? He's fine I mean he's you know he's never going to probably be what but people hoped he would be but he will be perfectly serviceable. NBA Player probably an above average NBA offensive player for a very long time. And I'm happy happy for him because he whatever physical ailment he had. I'm not doubting that. He had one. I believe he had the EPS. That's yeah yeah. Yeah and he doesn't have that anymore because it's not in Philly and he's not the number one draft pick in Orlando. He's a he's just a guy they got. That's completely different. You know set of pressures that are off of him and so he can just play now and I'm happy that he's playing. I'm happy productive. Seems like he's doing well down there. I'd like him to stay down there you never know what the NBA people go. where the money is I? Don't know how much money he's GonNa want and how much they're willing to pay him. But I'd like from the stay down there because I think being out of the spotlight lightest a really good thing for him. You are unless you're Mickey Mouse. You're out of the spotlight in Orleans. Right what else Staying with the NBA. How about this kid Don Shit? He goes thirty eight points. Eleven rebounds Tennessee's he has now. I'm trying to get this stat right. More thirty point triple doubles in the rest of the Leah's eleven triple doubles this year. which is more more than anybody else? And when you think of triple doubles you always think of Russell Westbrook you know but foot Luca Danni teaches twenty years old. He's twenty He you went pro in Europe about fifteen or something like that. What do you make of this kid? Beast beast man. He is. He's he's the goods. He's legit great already at Twenty Twenty twenty great player American College No Kentucky. No no no no no no no no no but like you said Tony's been playing against war money he's great. He's one of the classify players in the NBA. And I like when they when they talk to him after the game about these like. I don't know what to tell you man I'm just I'm going out and then applying you know things are going going right. He's a very very humble kid. Yeah yeah he's not Singing in the key of me. Well he will eventually but he's allowed to watch and he's in the right spot and the reason he's in the right nightspot is because Dirk Nowitzki was in Dallas and understands when you're young and you come to America and you know what that is like and Porzingis's this is there and so there is. It seems to me that there is a support system for this kid. Oh sure what's there might not be somewhere maybe not Looks like Jeff Bostick is not a big fan of Twain Atkins on actually on the radio station. Just down the hallway will know we're in the radio station Maloney Maloney and Andy Police Yeah. ESPN six thirty care. Maloney an anti porn just said talk to bostick yesterday and he said just didn't think that that Haskins is the answer eh from what it is as he says but from what I saw the latter part of the season Haskins is not the answer. I just don't think he has great grasp on. Maybe he just needs more learning and more coaching. I don't think you can make any judgment. Went on somebody in seven games or whatever it is I think it is fair to say this that he didn't come in in light. It up now you know what. He's only played thirteen games. They get a chance. He's still awful lot to live and I think you I think if he's the starter next year you give them the full season and maybe even more than that to see what you've got because you don't Marcus. Mariota was the second pick in the draft And he had some wonderful moments in all of a sudden Mike. vrabel said we'RE GONNA go with Ryan Tannehill and he went. What what book but Ryan Tannehill Eighty three and Marcus? Mariota is on his way out. He's not going in Tennessee anymore. Yeah so you wait and you see you have to give people chances and see what goes on a now. They didn't hire you know the the higher they made Ron Rivera. He's on the other side of the ball so you don't know so we'll have to see then he looks Haskins. Maybe as a game manage. Don't do anything. No no I mean I. I just don't think Ron Rivera Knows much about quarterbacks in you can't expect them to whoever becomes the offensive coordinator that that is his responsibility to make this kid better to make him better. And if you can't you know you sit down in a room with the head coach and you go I can yes. Is it Boston. We got busing wasn't done there. He also talked about Trent Williams and was not happy. Be the Trent Williams had taken the stance of not playing and criticizing. The redskins felt that he had signed this big contract and he should've played in lived up to that as he said that this. This is not how things were done in my day. He was misdiagnosed. Yes right would say of all the people out there. I usually look at players and I go shut. Shut up not this guy. No not this guy. Yeah and it wasn't like this was actor. Says you should get your affairs in order that this was not oh. It's not a sprained ankle. It's a broken ankles. This is a very serious cancer thing. Yeah and with football Probably not going to get the job as offensive coordinator here in Washington former former defensive coordinator Wade Phillips is out in Los Angeles. Just WanNa talk to that very briefly on Wade Phillips I feel for Wade Phillips because we're the same age basically Wade Phillips and I Qassemi one seventy two last year. That's next Last year he was regarded as guru for the Los Angel Shrimps. Yes because of what he did with. Defense statistically defense was better this year The problem with the rams won that side of the ball. The problem with the Rams Rams Jared Goff one any good to the first eight or ten games and Todd Gurley didn't play Sean McVeigh's Nada Junior so so firing Wayne in Phillips doesn't seem to me to be a recognition of what actually went on there. You know I and what you'll hear as well game has passed asked by and he's too old and he's this and he's that you know I- their problem was their problem. Was Offense. Douse their problem. That's Sean McVeigh's domain. That was their problem album. I have one of a heart warming story for you. This is the Christmas meal story told us before the show. No don't think so. I got a text from about the Richard Justice. All what did he Lisa He sent me a Texas morning He tweeted out. The Washington nationals bought fifteen hundred Georgetown cupcakes to present to troops during their us a tour a Uso tour for twenty twenty. And I said that's fantastic whale uses. I'm in Rome. Romania right now with two nets in one trophy on. He calls the show. That's great if you're not on news channel and that's rich. Here's Ritchie holding a lovely thing to do. That's wonderful yes. We'll talk about the way we'll talk about nats in old guy which is coming up basically right now. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser Kornheiser. Show Guy Radio Day mockingbird by James Taylor and his then wife Carly Simon giant giant. James Taylor Carly Simon real talent. Why we're playing this? We are blameless because on this date and this is not their rich but this is the original song Charleena's pop yes and by the way as a great cover and you don't usually get a cover rubbish song. I prefer the dumb and dumber cover. I was thinking I can't hear this song with that. Thank you Jim Carey in Was Jan yeah. We're playing this. Because the state in Nineteen nineteen seventy four Carly Simon and. Jt had their second child. Sarah Maria Maria Taylor who goes by Sally Taylor and as Hugh musician she is. Listen some of these questions yeah. She's I mean comes from good genes obviously but is tremendously talented They came up with his own To tape record rather because as Taylor had seen this in a live performance by China's an Charlie Fox at the Apollo Theater in sixty five and used to sing this just for fun with his sister and said hey this is a great idea. So yeah yeah they put it on. The fourth studio album hotcakes in nineteen seventy four. So it been talents I mean Carly Simon and James Taylor. Huge talents yeah. Had I told my Livingston Taylor story on this show is one of the James Brothers speaking of old so working the cable industry. They always say they've events everywhere and always have these events for the board where you go to some fancy house and there's a big party and they always bring in entertainment so this isn't some mansion in Newport Rhode Island and I'm walking in with some palaces were walking winding away to the mansion somebody says oh I hear Livingston Taylor's entertainment tonight and I set Livingston Taylor. Oh my God hasn't been dead for decades around the turn and smack into something that I'm sorry and he goes Livingston Taylor still alive. It was very good line so there were four to my knowledge. There was James. Taylor lived Taylor. Alex Taylor who I don't think survived and sister gate and all of them were in. Were in the singing business. James Taylor the first album ever on apple records and was produced by Peter Asher. I believe yes was sweet. Baby James I mean if you're my age maybe memorized every single lyric in sweet baby. James I mean that's he's a big talent on them. I've got I've gotten Siham. I know my son has gotten to see him I really think James Taylor is great. Carly Simon I don't know if she records anymore. She does anything but boy. She was the daughter of Paul Simon Right no no. She was the daughter of Norton. Simon I mean find. The book stored narrowly rich role and still went out and did her own thing. Yeah and was great. Yes that's great so anyway by the way one of the fun things is If you've seen certain films with McCartney and James Taylor McCartney calls him Jimmy Taylor Jimmy in his what he called him when he met in nineteen sixty nine hundred. Yeah so I We've done a lot of national stuff. I wanted to do local. I wanted to talk about the Matt's Kiss. I missed the nats and I'm hoping twenty. Nineteen world series champion. Yeah I'm coming coming to go. They signed Daniel Hudson. They resigned. Danieli howdy to a two year deal. Daniel Hudson was in my estimation over the last half of the season the most and perhaps only relatively reliable right handed arm in the nets bullpen And I I hesitate to use that sentence without saying there were two very reliable right-handers in the nonstop and they were reliable in their stink attuned. Swear Oh and southern thunder stricklin. They were terrible. Strickland is still on the team. I don't Barrow but I don't. I'd have no understanding of that late in the game very late. In the Game Sean doolittle a lefty became reliable reliable again. The Nets have signed recently. I was pleasantly surprised but totally blindsided on the starling. Castro signing had absolutely absolutely no idea they re sign as Jubal Cabrera Grech they have startline Castro. They just signed Eric themes From Milwaukee which means the end of the home runs at CNN. UNIMAT Adams correct because he's left handed first baseman. Now I think they have to and maybe even ought to God help me saying this sign Zayn Ryan Zimmerman and it's fine and put him out. They will put him out there again in a platoon Situation they are minus a third baseman. Their the defensive infield not counting first base because Zimmerman is a good first basement. Yes they're second and third. Well we don't even know who they are. But if it's if Kendrick is out there Castro I is a pretty good field Cabrera third too much this says to me. They're not going after Donaldson. They don't have the money. I don't know if it's as it says that they're ready to start the season if he doesn't sign and they don't have to make another corresponding move if doesn't sign. It appears that if they signed Donaldson they have to go into the luxury tax wrecks which they've said publicly. I think publicly they. I don't WanNa do. Yeah Right which I think is absurd for Tim noticed. Won The world series. You know It if you're here's if if you're not going to resign random because its cost too much. You didn't sign Harper because it cost too much. Now you're saying he won't sign Donaldson 'cause you go into the tax and I liked the moves. They they may talk like all the moves they've made but at some point you gotta sign you have to actually pay. Real money to Donaldson is a little bit harder. When he's on the record saying all things being equal I I would like to go back to the braves so there could just be a sense of we can give him an abide? We'll give him acts. You're not going to do X.. Plus one which is fine. It's a position. He has said that. He said he wants the braves fan. Would say all right. We've we're still in this with Minnesota Nets if you've said that why haven't you already waiting for somebody to do. Which I I? The last year people have spent money this right public public people spending money. Yeah so I you know look I wish they would sign Donaldson or at least make bring in a third baseman. Somehow whether it's easier when in these other guys which is any of them would be fine with me but I do like is it themes or teams I never know? I think it's I don't know it's not a river. He's not a very good first baseman but not a river and its is bombs hit. It went on for Shire's wild card. Yup Yup nothing. Yeah so You know good pickup Castro. Good pickup. So you know. He's a Rizzo under the radar. So Castro and I'd no idea Castro was available and he's pretty good on loved him and he's on the cups right we'll say is not that good. Look it looks more and more likely that he will sign Zimmerman on a short deal as sort of a friendly. Let's have you leave on your terms. Lets you be part of the goodbye tour tour for two thousand nineteen and frankly would be a good pairing with Ames because seems has a big hole against lefty pitching and you could see a split like sixty five thirty five percent and you do have of an Infield that will work that serviceable. You can have Kendrick You could have Cabrera playing third unum Castro playing third but the danger is what happens when you can't really established publishing everyday rhythm. It obviously helps. When you have a lot of these guys in Kendra can't play every day but what happens when you're playing three or four positions over to period does that lead to an increase in errors? Here's in Wingfield. How does that hitching? I agree with everything you're saying. I think that the formula for the nats is a little different than other teams. The nats have had the oldest roster last year. They're probably going to have the oldest roster this year and so- managerial you make accommodations to people. It's sort of like glowed management. And also they. They're not really defensive. Players you move everybody around not in the outfield but in the Infield and you live with it You live with it. The problem is with no bat like renaissance in front of Soto people. Just come pitch around Soto. Well maybe you hope that robe lace is becomes in his second big year a big hitter. Her I don't I don't I agree with that. Yeah it's it's weird it's a weird alchemy because you're trying to fill the sort of the the winds above yet you lose with condone and you have to do this edition by looking at the small pieces. They're making in the infield which hopefully they'll work out together but also the additions in the bullpen. And what was what. It was a glaring weakness now as a relative strength and you have to be impressed by adding Harris to that mix as well and just think when you compare that with the top three that they have. What does that mean for those three or four game series against the braves which they got basically skunked and you look at if you look at their record against the division they were terrible against the braves? Raves and the mets and the mets the mets late in the season was because you had relievers giving up home runs in the back end of the game and frankly the philly record is only because they were able to below five games in a four day period when basically lineup. So that's that's where you see those winds trickling back on their side. But it's it's a best is case. Everything works as it's supposed to and you don't have sort of injuries or people missing their numbers. Big Nats talk today I I long so I'm with you. Though I miss them I miss the Camaraderie of walking down the street and seen people with their nets gear. We opened up our nets commemorative wine over the high was by the way it was pretty good. That's still have mine in a very heavy added on sealed by Biol- Staying local there is The normal panic About snow first measurable Snow Coming to Washington. DC What's the boombox today while I'm GonNa. Is Nigel about all of this. I don't want to know what was reported yesterday. I WANNA know up to date. I've never understood. I mean we live in a big city. This notion of go. The supermarket can get milk. It went on limiting the Arctic is going to be a couple of inches at morals. And you don't need. You don't really need milk. You don't honestly Oh need milk number one. I went to the safe with the Social Safeway. And just before a rather large storm and that some bloke was running running around like mad with a shopping cart big hot seat a big Pumpkin and unlike a little bottle of mountain dew. That's it this. How is the latest capital weather gang? Say or what is what is yes. I'M GONNA look for today. We don't I mean he's not here he I don't think he had this hardtop for snow. I believe it was topper And that's that's pretty much we're GONNA get la- There's GonNa be some rain later on today that's going to change into wet snow and then we'll change over to adjusts. No they say it's GONNA end between probably seven eight nine tonight. Yeah I was Gonna say eight inches Pantai. Timing is the devastating back from Connecticut into sales. From where you are in the city it's going to be mostly to the north and the West. It looks like it's going to be in there saying we're from trace amounts to two inches but that prediction was earlier and I think when they've updated it. Seems like it's GonNa be even less than that as might be some on grass areas what we would call conversational snow. which is a significant? I'm not saying view. I think if you see an accumulation it will be on yards not on streets. I think north and west of the city you could see some slick areas develop you you know. Probably around like six and seven. I would think you know I'm telling you the coming back on. Connecticut Avenue at six o'clock in the middle of snow. What is normally twenty five minutes becomes fifty minutes back up from the Maryland border? I have gas in my car and I'll be okay just three ends. Go meet a friend for a glass Lhasa wine and had an early dinner and then in floor drive home. At Eight fifteen. There will be a nobody on the road. Well let's be the first snow outing for the new car. Yes yes Yeah concerned about your ability in this new car. No To hang out with Wilbon after the German Wilpon In town will ban has dinners and lunches. Che's every day this yourself to dinner with them and says what will bond us. He's always out. No he is he's always out with. Nobody loves being wilpon waist. Okay the bowls are finally over the ESPN. Now that's right. All the balls. We put on four four hundred Bolton. They're finally done last night. There was something called the learning tree bowl learning tree belonging and they spell the names right in the end zone. I Guess Louisiana beat Miami of Ohio and now it's over now. We wait till next Monday for the college championship ship. I I don't know why they delay like this. I mean I really don't because it gives them their own sage there it's all the cells will. ESPN owns. They could've gone last night right. They could have your little. I don't know I don't you guys talking when the show's last week you're you're bemoaning Tony. That the the big bowl games the rose bowl. The cotton don't have as much meaning Roosevelt. Who the mother child who recently drove through the night? Go to the Michigan Game. It might have been the dental floss ball for all. I know for those people and in the fans who go to the smaller schools in squirrels. Of course I don't I don't hate it I hate when we're bumped. ESPN two. But I accept that more people WanNa Watch live live football game than watch. You know a studio show. I I understand all that you get in at six and six. You win six. You get in if you don't get in to real real bad year you can't win. Six Games and Maryland terrapins at a real. You've had a mediocre year gives you something to be happy about at the end of the year and be hopeful for the next year. And someday we're going to have the Tony Kornheiser bowls small. The one thing that that is hoping is not the right word but it is amusing to me. Some of these stands hands are not even half full now. Well not even half your small school. You may not travel. Nobody really do. And you got so drunk. You missed the game This is directly to Nigel so I watched about an hour last night of once upon a time in Hollywood and I will resume watching that tonight right and I. I liked what I saw I. I will say this that almost every time. I see Leonardo di Caprio in a movie. He's a better actor than I ever thought he wants me. And I don't think he ever gets credit. It's SORTA like Robert Redford where nobody ever thought he was a good actor. Leonardo di Caprio is a really good actor. So I'm watching some of this and and I don't really know what it's about. It's sort of a love story to Hollywood by Quentin Tarantino. I don't really I know what it's about but I'm watching to Capri on watching Brad Pitt. And I understand that it's the tate labianca murders in its Charlie Manson and all of that stuff but in one scene Margot Robbie who in in the first hour anyway says almost nothing just dances she just cont. Did you see the movie. Yes just constantly dancing At one point she's dancing to a particular album. She's dancing too. Paul Revere and the raiders called spirit of sixty seven not seventy-six spirit of sixty seven and she's dancing to this song. Good thing. I have that album. I had that album great. I played it in College College. Ten Thousand Times Old Guy Tomorrow or soon as we can has to be good thing absolutely. Paul Revere. And the raiders. I know this movie is GonNa end badly. It's going to end badly but at least for an hour. I'm completely I'm intrigued. I mean same way with Brad Pitt. Better action when you think he is like these guys are good. They know what they're doing out there. So it's the Pacino part. I go what what do. Oh you do like that that. I didn't really understand Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt started out. Pretty Boys Right when they're certainly pretty poice was I was thumbing. Louise Yeah Yeah Yeah and I think it took some time for people to overcome that the capital was a child when he started and and I think it's easy to say you know to make fun of him when he first burst on the scene. One of John McCain's daughter Megan McCain shown had a big crush on him and I don't know how it came up publicly publicly but it did and McCain goes just send Raj this little whim seizing him. You really shouldn't say that public. He's got chops they really don't you love the I saw the movie sometime ago. The just kind of golden glaze over every way. It's filmed as beautiful you know you. I don't even know where they got all all the old cars from you know. It's it's the movie is set in nineteen sixty nine. The cars are legitimate. Brad Pitt. Like look a stuntman or something like that. He's he's and he's he's allowed lay. He's essentially Leonardo DiCaprio's valet and when you see where he lives when he goes to literally trailer in the middle of a dump go. Wow there's this one small wonderful scene where he takes the canned dog food out to give to his dog. And it's just a big blob Bob of junk that you would never feed your state of the Gambia. Yeah and it just. It's it's pretty good so far is more fun for me. So far than bombshell and I told you the other day about Joe Joe Rabbits just too weird for words run. I'm on saying some really good. Now koper Sasha Baron Earn Cohen's joke about About Rabbit he was time at the fearless guy as ricky surveys. He was talking about. What did you say it goes? And and now we're GONNA see the clip from the movie about the Nazi loving. You Know Young Guy who's got no friends. The whatever Nicos a social network. The story marks Acrobat. That's funny I thought Ricky travails great. He was great the guy in the post to rip them. Is it dope. All the critics ripped him. Oh they shouldn't rip them. I got a note from Phil Who's monitored show for us. What do we do babe? The lending trouble not the learning tree of the lending Who knows yeah again? The only bowl name I love is the cheese is it both. We'll take a break. We'll do we mail in jingle when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser. Show income's bag spags your blue fabulous fabulous song that goes to the birds and the Beatles by lerone new Meyer and Tom lofgren. Yes Tom lofgren before we get to the mail bag. 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But that's not how we do it here on wakened take on ESPN radio. You have to get the information of me you have to ask the right questions. And if you do perhaps, I will give you the information the opinion. That you covet seven eight six four five six or eight three seven put it on the poll. Does anyone covet my opinion? Another poll. Does anyone covet? My thoughts. But first we interview, Greg, Cody. How about that? Hey. It's. Greg. I'm good, man. How about you? Good. I'm Gary Nike good. I'm good good. Good good. I'm good Alson. You get out in the house. Listen. Belly good? Billy. Actually. Well, no, he's not no, no dilly ill. Oh, man. It's always fun when the teachers out, and we're not on television. Isn't it? Great is really relaxing, though, isn't it? Yeah. Like a spot. Oh my gosh. There's a minor league baseball team. That's having a great Cody debt. Hard to believe, isn't it? Now, it's not now nothing up. And this is Greg Cody debt, I would like days when you're in here. And Dan is not because Lord knows you take an unholy beating. When Dan is here. I wanted to be Greg Cody that so it's Greg Cody day you can live fearlessly today. Thank you give your opinions. Oh. We may or may not try to get you on the hard network out though Sam fair game. But the audience loves that port, and they love you. Greg Cody day, minor league baseball now, listen Sioux, Falls, South Dakota's, but trying to have a stugatz day for three years, and they don't listen. Well, no, they do they do they've given you everything that you've asked for including a private jet, and yet you still bail on them through private jet a private jet, and they set me up for a round of golf on a great course, by the way, essentially with John Daly. No, it was with John Daly, no, potentially. It was confirmed. It was me. John Daly in the pro-am Heke asking for nicer weather. Wow. At it, not be in South Dakota. Love you Sioux Falls anyway. Greg Cody day. So it's the same minor league affiliate that is trying to have a Greg Cody. Yeah, it's the it would be out if it was a major league baseball team. Then that would be strange, right? It's the Minnesota Twins farm team. I believe it's class eighteen minor league. Then you know, I was wasn't official score for the Fort Lauderdale Yankees in the seventies. So I have sort of an affinity for low level, minor league Manatt low level, but very minor league baseball because you know, you never know somewhere on that field as a kid who could make the hall of fame someday. And it sort of neat to watch these guys when they're like nineteen and twenty. Are you excited for this? Yes. You know what? It's a it's so ridiculous that it's fun. You know what? I mean. I mean, the idea that somebody would have Greg Cote. You kidding? He's thrilled about this involves him. He loves it. He's going to downplay it all he's thinking about is this day. Well, frankly won't shut up about it. I love the guy who is a couple of days removed from rallying against being cruises being perfectly fine with a theme. Baseball day named after him. Exactly. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's perfect. It's got too strong. And you know, I got a great delineation between theme cruises. And Greg Cody dates, do you know that Steve Spurrier's having a fem- crews? I heard that that rate the old ball coach. They promoted it. Yes. And that's how they promoted. It talk football on a cruise with the old ball coach. That sounds like a complete disaster. It really does. I'm picturing him up on a stage behind a microphone just feeling questions. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what coach would you imagine? Which coach would if ADA. Theme cruise which coach would you be most inclined to end least inclined to to attend the cruise like a theme. Like Rex Ryan thing crews seems like it when you first said Steve Spurrier for some reason I thought of Steve Kerr, and I'm like that sounds like a boring on he's not boring at all. Well, he'd mix it up with people if people it'd be great. Hey, it'd be interesting. I'd go Jerry Glanville. Oh, landfills the guy. You would go Glenville also the coach most likely to just bump into you at a normal non themed cruise, right? That's true on the Lido deck, right? Jerry, glanville. Yeah. I'm here got tickets for wearing a big tomboy hat. So the Jerry Glanville theme cruise is one that Mike would go on. I would be tempted to go into Jerry Glanville theme cruise. I think the Ryan brothers would be good. Who would be the guy that you would least like a coach with least if they had seen cruise. You would least wanted to attend that cruise rather think Nick savings cutter Dirk cutter turtle. Cutter cutter when I was on a cruise recently to Mexico, I spotted Ron dougans the Florida state. I think he's the received. Once you pick up any just drought and muggy. But that's an example of a guy who was just a passenger. You know, what I mean, he's like not important enough to actually have a cruise named after love your on Mike that is funny. It's a funny topic. Roy you have a coach off the top of your head you go on a hockey coaches, Spurs, right? Yeah. Would probably bear Millrose man bat. See that's what I'm talking about. That's the kind of cruise I want it needs to be hosted by. I don't want to talk politics with Steve Kerr. If you don't want gyms on your cruise, right, right? Oh, a politics on my grill fun of Mike bonds and the Ryan brothers. I think would they would be Jerry Glanville would be fenced asked. Yeah. I feel like any any coach who's now a talking head could sell out a cruise Jimmy Johnson. Could do a clue you wouldn't want to go on Ken Hitchcock theme. Cruise roy. Oh, yeah. That'd be great shock. Martin's crews sorts different relatives. I agree with you s toward a rela. I oh, yes. It does. It sounds like a battleship should there. Be a boat. Put it on the poll called the US Twitter. Would you call it US, Terrell USS Parrella? I don't know why it is. Are you gotta get the the interview I did without golick and wingo tonight, just get the first sentence from it because I trip over word. I don't know why tried to go to award that I can't say, but I tried to go to awards that against that. Dirk cutter, though, read did would not want to go to theme cruise. But he does look like a guy who would be visit the what do they call that big sailing race every like four or five year because America's got he looks like he could captain the America's Cup shift. Now, they're cutter just based on looks alone the ship. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Ship. Seven eight six four five six four eight three seven. So versus good Roy's. Good mikes. Good. Greg is good Allison's. Good. Billy L is good. I have no time for calls. 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We put it on the poll at lebatardshow on Twitter do frogs ever. Look you in the eye. I'm in the amount of tax. We got saying that has to be a poll question. It's it's there right now. Go vote on it. Okay. And I'm telling you, a frog never looked in. The I ever you might think it's looking you in the eye. But it never looked in the porn frog. Shoot blood out of there. Is it ad here. It's terrifying proposition. Are you serious? They should blood out of there is well, did you know that I did not know that amazing would rather have gone through life. Not knowing that. Did you guys see the the rockets warriors game last night? Anyone watch that? I saw the final score a little late for you a little late night. Thirty start at ESPN last night. It was a great gain Golden State one. Just so I'm very clear, I don't want to give the same take that I've given on Kevin Durant because I've given it five thousand two hundred seventy two times. But this is all I'm saying, I'm a basketball fan. I don't care what. Kevin Durant goes next season as long as it's not Golden State has I prefer I'm going to the Knicks. Here's the problem with what? Kevin Durant did. And by the way, DeMarcus cousins was outstanding. Yeah. Yeah. Twenty seven points. I saw that. It's seven points by get a bunch of rebounds and assist as well. Here's the problem. I don't care about the box the raptors I don't care about any team at west Oklahoma City. The warriors are waiting to championship. I am a basketball fan and what Kevin Durant is done. He has ruined the competitive balance in the NBA because I think the only team that can beat the Golden State Warriors is a team that has Kevin Durant on it. As you saw it last night that was a Golden State team that went into Houston and it Houston team, by the way that push Golden State to a seventh game last year Western Conference finals, I think most people would say the biggest threat to Golden State. The warriors go into Houston last night with no Kevin Durant. And they still beat the rockets who had everyone they had. No, Kevin Durant at. So. I would ask you this, Greg. If you took Kevin Durant off the warriors everything else stays the same. It's cousins it's Thompson, it's dream on. And it Steph curry you put the rant on the rockets. And now, it's Durant. Harding, and Chris Paul the rockets might win a best of seven, but I'm not certain so even Kevin Durant being on another team doesn't guarantee, but at least it's closer right at least, it's more competitive. Yeah. If you put Durant on the rockets there immediately the best team in the league. And I don't think there's any. I I I don't know why you have so much doubt about it. Because the team before. Kevin durant? Got there had the greatest season in the history of the NBA. That's why and they lost two, man. They lost Cleveland in the finals. Right. That team didn't win the championship. But I wanted to my point is they wanna title just with Steph clay, Draymond green. I know. But you're probably should've won a second Nutting. Now, I'm adding DeMarcus cousins taking Durant off you're having Kevin Durant to a team that I think this year's edition of the rockets arguably is worse than last. Year's addition, even though Horton is totally out of his mind. But many people would make the case that the rockets would won that series. Add Chris Paul knock got hurt. And that's with Kevin Durant on the warriors. Right. So I think it I'm with Gregg, it's easy that the rockets probably beat the words, even though that worse team is still great. I would say though, Kevin Durant with Russell Westbrook. Could not get past the Golden State Warriors. I also want to walk back easy. I don't think anything's easy when you amass at much talent and in lying on a seven game sample. That's all. I'm saying the talent is so overwhelming now that it's impossible. I can't fathom any team beating them in a best of seven series. I just can't. And because you say that and I agree with you. I'm already loving what I think is going to be the NBA finals matchup. First of all it's going to be a breath of fresh air and not having LeBron in it and second the whole country outside of Golden State is going to be rooting for the Milwaukee Bucks to shock the world. Because even though they're going to have the best record in the league by like quite a bit. They're going to be an enormous underdog against Golden State or Houston. I would say in Genesis a well like superstar hers until you die. He always says the right thing in public. Always take some sort of direct and indirect shots. At other superstars at hold their small market franchises hostage. You saying all the right thing. He is. And Milwaukee hasn't been relevant in the NBA since cream Abdul Jabbar was Lou L sender. I mean, this is going back decades. I well Ray Allen team. They did go to seventy conference finals fair. And I don't even know if the box of the biggest challenge in the east, I think it's I still think it might be Boston really or Philadelphia. If they're healthy ignoring Toronto iambic door in Toronto. I don't know what I'm doing. Then he says the I have scarred from years of the Rosen and lower. What's happening? I know but derozen gone and we've replaced him with Kawhi Leonard. I'm excited actually watch Eastern Conference playoff games. Yes this season. So am I I'm excited? But no one's beating Golden State. And that's why that's why. Kevin durant? I don't care where he goes. I prefer he go to the Knicks. I think it'd be a great move for him. I have no idea if he's going to go there, obviously, no one does. I think it'd be great for basketball, certainly NBA is Rudy for Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving to go to go to New York. I'm certain I understand your point on competitive balance. But this year appears to be the most competitive season in recent NBA history. There's so many good teams that took that next step up in the Eastern Conference. So good that even if LeBron stayed out east. I don't think he makes it to the NBA finals. I think that's three comes to an end regardless of bronze on even making the NBA playoffs or fishery eliminated. Give so many good teams. Now compared to what this was a couple of seasons ago where you knew it's just LeBron versus the warriors LeBron versus the warriors who is just a two-horse race. And it wasn't even that in certain moments. So this is I'm excited about this postseason fall for it again because yes, there are a lot of teams there are more competitors than ever. But Golden State's winning an NBA chance. You think you're going to resign yourself to that fact because my daughter cells I care about you. Okay. Wehr enough. It's enough. But they look like they're getting sick and tired of each other. Hell not he didn't put his voice to it. But he put his lips to it Seve Kerr did. So do you think the bucks are Mirage? You think fifty one and seventeen is is just although I think the bucks a really good basketball team. I just think if they get to the NBA finals, and they take on the Golden State Warriors. They're going to lose that series and five or six games. I do. I mean, listen, you're talking about a starting five of Durant. Thompson curry Draymond green and DeMarcus cousins, and by the way cousins last night, not only the twenty seven points. It was it was eight rebounds, seven assists, two steals. He was fantastic. I need a three he took over the. I mean, he essentially was Kevin Durant output. Right. Why you did the bucks whatever chance against the warriors? I mean because Greg Greg, but we were when I was growing up. Okay. You were growing up many generations before that when I was growing up. It was Michael Jordan and the bulls, and they were always the next team. You know, it was Malone and Stockton. They're gonna they're gonna get. Jordan. It was Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton, they're gonna get Jordan. It was the New York Knicks. They're going to get Jordan. It was the heat a couple of years to get him that you no one ever got him. Why? Because they have the best team. They had the best player and Golden State has the two best players it Steph curry and Kevin Durant. So no, I just can't I can't see it happening. I don't know if Milwaukee's ready to declare itself, the next Golden State their record suggests that I don't know whether it's going to happen. But it's going to be damn interesting to find out. There's going to be sort of a fresh air quality for me here to these playoffs that haven't been around in a while. Mike, do you think he's good enough genus? Yes. No to attract to attract free agents to Milwaukee. Yes. Really? Yeah. I didn't Kevin Durant Saint himself. Maybe I'll go to Milwaukee you're acting like Anthony Davis. There wasn't the reports that Milwaukee was on this list before he walked everything back and said everybody's on my lesson. He had a very short list, and Milwaukee was on it people act like Milwaukee is this barren wasteland y- you can live equal distance from Chicago. Ago and Milwaukee smack dab in the middle of two cities walk as a nice town. You're right next to one of the biggest cities in America in Chicago. I don't think it's this small market that everybody makes it out to be. I think they are sick and tired of each other for the most part. I think there is some friction in that locker room Draymond Kerr. Kevin durant? I don't know what's going on. With clay rip the fans at apologize to the fans, and he was great last as the best player on the floor last night. Klay thompson. I don't care if they're sick and tired of each other. They don't have to get along with a championship. That's the most talented team in the NBA. That's the best starting five of ever seen. And I have zero doubt that they are going to win the championship this year cash. More of the donlevatar show with stugatz. Ten to one eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN news. Let me tell you without Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let them stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in its hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven peak realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then he heard how Geico proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So we switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out donlevatar. I think when I was young I actually called Chris Berman at ESPN and left him a message. Dave winfield. Viral still stugatz. You want into we've wanted Nick day. Dave Winfield was playing then. And I left him. I left him a message. You really did that. Because if I did that all I know well got you would do that. Now, I did it when I was twelve these libertas show with his two guys on ESPN radio. Here we go. Come on, Greg. Caroline. Scour the Georgia arm, Martin photos everywhere of him wearing a jet had got a bit your of in with Mike McKenna that. That. Cents a prize that you were lying. That's all means. The magic rated content. We have to open it. We have to stop over doing pictures everywhere. And that's the jet had. He was wearing on the beach with me Mexico, by the way that I mean, Google George are Martin giants cap. There's also result. He claims that he's been a giants fan since nineteen fifty eight. Okay. Listen, I am not going to call him a phony not gonna do it because I just made a request to get him on the show that. Yeah. And he seems pretty distraught. Over the Odell Beckham junior trade again the entry is called kill me now. Okay. Here's the quote. I'm having a big blue nightmare. Okay. But I mean, he's a jets fan. He's put himself out there publicly in a blog entry as a giants fan. I'm going to see if there's a blog entry about the jets. Maybe he's randomly a fan of both which that shouldn't exist. Right. You can't be fan of both be bad about them. Put it on the poll. Can you be a fan of both the jets and the giant? You can't do that. I mean, you just can't I mean, a York's kind of divided along these lines. It's jets Mets islanders and it is giants Rangers Yankees. And we're all saddled with the next. That's just kinda how it works. Unfortunately, here's the question from our creative content. Greg. We'll go to you. I who's your best friend. You know, I have several. I have a few. You got to respect the question to be no one has more friends than you do says about me itself to pick one person. Isn't it pick one big what I guess my buddy? Kris Benson known him longest. Dan's going to be upset. We hasn't there. Stands up there. Okay. Todd. Then probably. Likely depends on. It's a constantly changing Britain lately, who's your best friend. Let's go to Chris my wife. That's not fair. Oh, you did that take your wife out of the equation, your best take the wife out of the equation? Who's your best friend? We all understand the significant others are best friend breath. Okay. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. So pretty in my friend, Alex Benson. Kris Benson, son like my dad's? Yeah. The Benson's of the Golden's though, this friend ROY have several and I will not choose. Just one person. Not. Everyone's that honored the game. You gotta pick one time. We already Salish lovely wife in the or your baby Claire or you don't have to say me you can pick. Come on, Tom. Tom is great. Thanks. You have to respect right pick. Pick one one. We've been through a thick and thin. You know what I'm saying? So I can't really pick pick one. Sorry. All right. Name the best man at your wedding. There are three best minimal. That can make a decision was decision. So if you only if you could only asked one of them to be your best man who would would that person. But I can't do that. Are they all this right now? Hurting anybody listening. Him or her? People's names were sorry. He's doing that. To you, Tom. It's Tom I'll answer the question. It's Tom Tom is Royce best promissory his best friend believe a a graduation. Mike your best. My best friend is cowboy coral. Coral. Yeah. Cowboy Carl do we know him? No. But in cowboy Carl is my best friend. Okay. Kane is second second. Yeah. Well, cowboy Cain. He's made a a rapid climb up. You're listening friends there man went over for like a month. I went over to his house is wife made Cornelius. I need. Mine is George are Martin. About that. You want to become best friends with someone stand on a beach three feet from the ocean? With Lord knows what in your system and watch the deadandcompany for three nights. I'm not saying George Arjun any they have no idea. Okay. And I'm not saying I did anything. I'm just saying you never know. What's in your system? Can't wait to find out of Georgia and Martin hates the Grateful Dead. Then he wasn't actually air. Just visualize them. They're insanely jealous of the seats that I get great seats. I eat you're on the beach. Oh, no. They take me side stage. I'm gonna VIP area that walked right up to the side stage. I am I mean, I'm talking ten feet away from from mayor, Bob, we're Bill. Mickey it's amazing at Georgia sitting on the stage on a chair on me. I can only imagine the stuff you went through to get that up. Oh, man. Well, Allison donlevatar, I've a friend. He was very early as great as a great awful story. It's early in the dating process she has to go to the bathroom bathroom overflows with debris who stugatz cheese quietly trying to clean it up. He walks up the stairs. And sees her on her hands and knees, they meet is and she immediately begin sobbing Gore's. He's going to begin sobbing. I would've been I would've looked up and been like what? Libertas show with his two guys on ESPN radio the request for George or our Martin has been made. Are there forced to potty or for this radio show? I'll take them whenever I can get. And if I can't get them then back to playing in the sand that Mexico next year. I will bring some microphones and record conversations there with with my friend alleged fan private jets fan public giants fan. George are Martin. He's a big sports fan. Yeah. According to his blog entry, he's really passionate about the New York football giants. I still wanna get to this lorry. Laughlin story impact. I do want to discuss the baseball rules. I'm reading a text here. Tweet here. Excuse me from Shams that dukes I on Williamson the potential number. One MBA pig has been cleared to return from a spray knee tonight against Syracuse. Would you return if you were have, no? You know, that's sorta shut it down. I mean, come on. I can't believe he's liking this take. No, no. I just I just I just can't believe that. He's probably you wouldn't play Mike. You would not let I wanna play. Yeah. I play for you guys. I play her all the time. I've had a sinus headache from hell Magas entire week on playing her right now. The only one is playing hurt. He's not here today because there's a feel good as Billy ill man these competitive. There's nothing that can happen on that court outside of something historically tragic that we've only seen a handful at times they could really affect his draft stock. Joel embiid. He was a number three overall pick after sustaining an injury as he was training for the draft. If you're that kind of talent you're going to be taken high several people have been drafted high with the presumption that they're not going to be available that year. It's not uncommon. So go out there with your boys and try to win a championship. But that's the problem. Okay. Because he feels some sort of obligation to his boys. That's what the NCWA does does. Right. So because he's ever. But he's not that sports. It's what we all believe in like, he's not there for any sort of education. He's only gonna come back to play for his boys. Okay. And let me tell you something he tears end of the play in the NBA see how quickly those boys aren't as boys in the NBA even saying all season that this all ever said is if his name was I chef ski coach K would not allow them to come back and play last night in my softball championship game that nobody gets paid for I slid and I got a cut on my knee. You can look at it right here. Right here, the cut and right here, I stopped because I wasn't going to get paid. Or I was worried about next week. No, I stayed in the game. Because my boys were there. And I was like we're winning this thing. I don't care if I go home bleeding, so so so help me out here if you had a fifty million dollar lottery ticket and the requirements where you can't leave on the play softball, and you can cash it in two months. Would you play softball boys? I would go play because I knew even if I had that catastrophic injury my insurance policies still gives me eight million dollars a worst case scenario, if the most catastrophic thing in the world happens, I still get eight million. Okay. That any fifty and then. This happened at three max deals after that. I mean I've been in similar situations when I play soccer mid week. And I know man, I gotta music festival coming up this weekend injury would really hamper things. I still go out there. You know, why for the love of the game? And my boys boys boys, put it on the pole. You slide and softball. I am media regretted it it was honestly, it was one of those things I made a bad decision ago. I was like, oh, this guy is never good arm and heading the second, and he had a shoot. And I'm like, wow, this has to be a perfect throw own. It was and I had to slide. Luckily, the second baseman dropped it. So. You've spent all season long saying that this guy's in athletic freak. You've never seen. Anybody put together at this age quite legs. I on Williamson them stepping on the court. I mean, even look what it took for him to get hurt something that we've never seen before really in college athletics shoe exploding. You have them out there being like Mr. glass, it's not gonna happen. And if it does he still gonna be taken within the first three picks? I mean, I don't think you could say that with one hundred percent certainty. I understand what you're saying. Even if he got hurt because people were saying that right after he actually did get hurt in the Carolina game at Cameron indoor that, hey, even if it was a bad injury. He'd still be the number one. I I know that there's some good players in the strap maybe RJ Barrett is taken ahead of injured Zayn willing cams better than both. How about that? That's one of the hotter takes I think that maybe there are some GM's in the NBA that look at Zion. Williamson that's going to be out for his first season in the NBA. But knowing that gets I on Williamson, and they get all. Those bird rights, and they have them on that rookie deal. I still think they take Zion. Williamson over ready to go Cam reddish. I think Zion. Williamson should make a statement. And when he comes back on the court and begins playing again, he should do so barefoot with that violate any rules is he allowed to play barefoot. Right. I mean, what what what way to make a great statement? Right. And you're here saying all he's risking is that NBA contract and potentially shoe deal. He's also standing to gain so many millions in his shoe deal say's ion Williamson. Yeah. Well, or a I think there's a there's another Adidas there's an Dita's relationship. I believe there is an his dad coach Rene UT. No sponsored by Dita's. If he has a Carmelo Anthony type March madness tournament he is going to be the hottest free agent. What areas shoe deal air? It is just, but it could go, but might be only could always go more. Forget about the the decision the player. Not play the frustrating part about this is this is the AA trick, right? The only one right? He feels some sort of obligation to come back for his boys to come back for Duke because he chose to go to college. Choose to go to college at to go to college to be had to go to college for a year to get himself to the NBA fixed. The only ones who who's gonna profit off this of him coming back and playing against Syracuse is coach K is Duke, and the NC double light, not Zion zions already getting into shoe deal. He's already going to be the number one overall pick, regardless of what he does the rest of the way here. I think it's I think that he doesn't stand to gain millions and endorsements by showing out in a in a tournament. We knows I on and but we're in this industry, right? We see college basketball games on television. Every most casual sports fans, they're not paying attention weakened. Weak out to college basketball. They're going to be paying attention to the tournament. That's when you shine everyone stops for March madness work production goes like, we lose billions of dollars billions of dollars lawsuit of lack of work productivity because everyone's wow. Ching made upset. No, no shrewd, Dan. It's like one of the in terms of work productivity. It's the worst day on the year outside of like days right up against holidays. You know, what makes them sense? And I'm serious here. Sit Zion Williamson until you reach a point in the NCWA tournament where you think you could lose without him that could be the the quarter PHI that could be elite there in the elite eight in the league with with four minutes to go. Then he makes his dramatic. I'll tell you what that would be more entertaining way to Greg is onto something. You don't you don't pull out design on court until you absolutely need on. And maybe you never need them. Maybe you don't right. Maybe you need them in the championship game, literally. But Mike you saying, I guess you got to be there for your boys. And if you're gonna championship you wanna be a big part as a big reason as to why that team wins the championship. But he's doing it for no one else other than you're making this about the NBA cares making this about the NBA Zion thirty years when I was going to one his four months at Duke. I mean, serious national chain. But what I'm saying is March madness six next level. If you have an iconic tournament, you're making this about an MBA and shoe deal. I understand that. But I'm telling you this could be yo play. This could be LaCroix water to be Gatorade. There's so many more millions at stake by showing out on this, by the way, CNBC had an article of March of last year say in six point three billion dollars was lost. By corporations due to productivity loss during the men's tournament. He could also come back play as well as he was before the injury. I mean, maybe that affects not hurting his Stockman. I if he gets hurt maybe goes number two, okay? Such a straw, man. I don't think it's a straw, man. I really don't it's more. It's not about Zion. And that decisions we're about the NC double A and what a scam. It is the fact that they they're forcing kids to go there for a year. Understood. But that's getting college and go to three year making education, you want the NBA to fix it immediately. It's already been addressed done is gone yet. Fix it. I'm sorry that that Israel to fix it. No. That injuries. Put it on the poll. Did it takes ions injury to fix one and done? I'm telling you it was fixed before then, but it picked up steam afterwards telling you. Cent five cent then sent though. They've been debating for a half hour on I take whether or not you would rather have a Tokyo, Brad or more Cooper a half hour. Thirty minutes. Really? Would you rather? Have we got we got to play this question that somebody asked Sean Gruden at the press, right? He was technically question, but it was just a direct shot. Jon gruden. Oh, man. And he was like, I don't really get your question Cooper around the Antonio Brown. Donlevatar? What would you say to feel like you misrepresent me all the time? You've been doing this show with me for a long time. What is my viewpoint about coaches because I feel like even don't matter at all. Misrepresentation. Stugatz. I don't even know why bothered asking you what if these live at our show with this to God's on ESPN radio wanna get to these new baseball rules. Still wanna get the Laurie Laughlin greenie gonna join us at twelve thirty. I got a text from greenie, Chris you'll love this. I ask them about the jets. Offseason. If you liked it. He wrote back absolutely onto levels. Not one. To level. I asked him to expand. He said I will tomorrow. This was yesterday. Of course. Levels with that appetite to find out that he touts giants fan. Georgia or Martin you fraud. This is one of the greater lies you've ever told. Because I actually believe this one. I mean, listen, we're jet had three nights on the beach. I mean. What can I tell you should be clear George are? You are not the fraud, sir. And it was odd. When I woke up and rolled over, and he was still wearing the jet. I mean. Stugatz is indeed the fraud for telling this lie. Once again, if you're just catching up to the show guys it's been carrying on this alive that he spoke jets football with your Dr Martin at a dead show. Two years running now for several shows. And now turns out that Georgia or Morton is a public passionate New York Giants fan with a blog entry saying kill me now and claiming that he's been a fan of big blue since nineteen fifty eight we'll all be forgiven when when he comes on this show or stupidity because it appears that's about to happen, it you could come look at Email yourself, if you'd like I mean, it appears it's about to have that's big suit. I would say I don't want to say in the next couple of days. I would say the next couple of weeks. Yeah. I've been hearing this tale for I haven't I haven't listened. Now. I'm gonna tell the truth. I know you guys have asked me to ask them. I don't wanna ruin this rosy relationship that have George because it is nice. I'm telling you, it's nice. We talk about the dad. I don't believe a word that you say I haven't asked them until just now just go ahead released liked you. Why did you lie? Reliable. Now, I Greg I'm good. How are you? Good and get raiders. So my so this is this is this is disguised as a question yet direct shot at Jon Gruden. It makes me wanna play that. Michigan sports beat reporter who really like change the game when it came to insulting questions. This is at the Tonio brand Prescott is at the end Tonio Brown introductory press conference. A member of the press has a question for Jon Gruden and it's a bit of an insult. I think in kinda takes it that way. Right. Chris I like the way when you hear Jon Gruden respond to the first question. He's going to ask him. A question return is he really unsure or is. He just really angry John when the raiders drafted Amari Cooper, you on television and said he was vertical threat team needed. When you traded him, Mark Davidson, he didn't fit your system. My question is how do you plan to address your system to accommodate in Tonio skill? And getting the ball downfield is frequently steal your what? The point of your question is regarding. Mario cooper. You are television. And you said he was the vertical threat that raiders needed. And then when you traded him Mark Davis said he didn't fit your system. And my question is do you need to adjust your system to accommodate Antonio Brown? Skill in getting the ball down. The field is frequently. We we'll have to just anything with this guy, and we didn't have to adjust much with Amari. But this is not about comparing receivers today we want to continue to improve this football game. We don't wanna have a good receiving core. I wanna have the best receiving core in football. And I think they have the best. You got have the best. And in my opinion, we acquire the best wide receiver in football and get to work. My God sound today's brought to you by my computer career dot EDU training for a better life. That was so good. I might want wanna hear the second time. That is amazing. The best part is the Gruden is. He in that video you see him staring at quarter. I'm he gives that that look, man. I didn't not like that question, man. Yep. Yep. The death stare. The stair he gave when when we took him seriously as the bucks coach. That's still not top the mountain terms of insulting questions from the press leaf blight. Coach Crowley Sola Spartans water became Indian Arbor with perhaps the most hype of any coach in the history of the big ten maybe an all college football few years later. You're got a third place. Third place and fourth place, finish your one in five against Michigan state and Ohio State. What do you have to do this year to demonstrate to the Michigan community that you are on the path to achieving what they hired you to achieve? Well, the improvement will lead to successful eat to championships. Is that the best non-answer to question of all? Of all the greatest question of all time. No doubt. It really is. I wish you just kept going with no question. Did you cut it off where he actually asked the question? Can we do that? Because he was on a roll just kept going. So we just cut that off where just listing what he hasn't done. And there is no question, it would've it would've been better. Coach Crowley Sullivan. Spartans wonder became Indian Arbor with perhaps the most type of any coach in the history of the big ten maybe an all college football few years later got a third place. Third place and fourth place finish eating your one in five against Michigan state and Ohio State. Perfect. That's my time just passes the Mike. I think horrible to give the same answer though. Yeah. I love how perplexed Greg, Greg. Greg is having an all-time coughing. Federally is the waters, helping you Greg. Greg focus on something focus on something on the wall. I feel they're almost always helps it coughing to the point that I fear. You might blackout. I'm I'm to list right now of the top twenty best selling. Where'd you get this less from just somewhere on the what is it or web and Cleveland, Dan that Greg Cody on the ESPN radio donlevatar? Are you not alarmed by how much to God's eight last night. Stugatz. Had no idea he ate a lot. He was pretty gross when I left I had no idea that he went on this grazing. Here's the weird thing about to God's too though wants to guts eats here. He never finishes anything. I know because I'm always cleaning it up after his legs one wing. No wants it. I mean, just eat the wing. I thought ROY always ate leftover wing. Roy always throws it away items. Slob these live with our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. New episode of stupidity coming out today should be out might not be at which it on it right now. But it will be out at some point. If it's not. Greg giants expected they are getting mocked relentlessly. They traded Odell Beckham junior Gettleman said we'll here I'll read from Twitter. This giant tweets not too long ago from the New York Giants official Twitter handle Gettleman. We didn't sign Odell to trade him Noah Syndergaard reach weeded that with comments saying well that didn't age will. And again a lot of that. And I also find it interesting that Levy on bell became the biggest star in that town the second Odell left and he decided to go to the jets, and I I don't know if the factored into Levy on. But well, it probably did it on the money. But he is now the biggest store in that town right now, it's okay. Iran comes there in July. But do you think the giants the notion of the giants don't have a plan to me seems ludicrous? They have to have a plan, Greg. So do you. I don't know what it is. But you would agree with that. Right. It's ludicrous that think to suggest that Gettleman and the giants who have been very successful organization. Don't have some sort of plan in mind. They were tired of Odell Beckham junior. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird though. They got rid of Beckham and kept ally. Manning, you would have thought it might have been the opposite. It's weird to see a team peppers and a I in a second for for you. Value. Certainly a lot of people thought he had more value than what he Fettes, right? They weren't waiting with it with him. Right. So I mean, and this still got a great running back and in a number six traffic. I mean, I think their position pretty well. But it's obvious. They're taking and a lot of teams like Miami down here. The the question is are they thinking or are they not you really not sure with the giants you pretty sure man. I don't think. So in reading quotes from Gettleman. He's like a run I guy he wants to build this Rosser through the draft in the shape of the image of football as he sees it. He's already got his running back with saquon Barkley. He builds it from the inside out. That's what he does. I mean, he said that the first time he took over the team. He said I Bill the offense defensive line. And we'll go from there. There's a lot of quotes that if you're if you're fan of the modern game, you're just sort of putting your hand to your forehead, right and time will tell what David get them. And maybe he'll prove to be a genius. But this is obviously something that's worthy of initial criticism. Right. Well, when they draft Wayne Haskins sixth overall, I suspect that maybe they're offensive allows. Maybe they thought they had to move up. I don't know if they want Haskins. I don't know if they weren't Mary. There's reports I was listening to me and as podcast, Diana receive, a mention that the talk out of there is that they're not really in on Haskins, or at least that's what it could be a smokescreen. But that they're not exactly in on the Haskins conversation, which is really surprising centering the glaring need of the cardinals at the side of they wanted to call the Murray, then this is a moot point. But if they're not a hundred percent certain you did the six pick overall combined with what what was the Browns pick seventeen seventeen six and seventeen to the cardinals. You think that'd be for number one overall the Garriga potentially if they're committed Josh Rosen, then I would say so right or maybe the seventeenth pick four. Josh rosen. Something like that. Yeah. Perhaps it has to be a plan here. You don't just trade that kind of talent in his prime after giving him twenty plus million dollars guaranteed money, right? Without some sort of plan like to me. It's just hey where the giants, and we don't know. We don't know any of these guys the internal workings. So we don't know. Maybe he's a great player. But we don't know what he's like off the field round of us. Do they do? Yeah. They didn't want them around there anymore. They do for their set culture. It seems like a very straight laced sort of perhaps antiquated old school way. Let's say old school way of doing things and Oto Beckham junior is a hard worker when he's at practice. He's very competitive. No one questions the winds. Great. But as I n receive he said on me Kansas podcast came out yesterday. There's a bit of a circus. That's around L beckons union didn't mesh I think it's actually a great fit in Cleveland, especially with Freddie kitchens. Now a lot not a lot of people don't know much about pretty kitchens, but the locker room really rallied around him. And he's got one of these Bruce area type of attitudes. That's where he comes from. He's from that tree where he lets guys be themselves in the really gravitate towards him. You think, Freddie? Likes the the expectations ratcheted up this quickly because they have been ratcheted up Mike you I mean people are talking about them in the Super Bowl. And this is a first year head coach like I I think the expectations prop there, obviously a lot higher now with the acquisition of Odell Beckham junior. But there would have been expectations for next season to improve upon seven eight and one record especially considering the drastic improvements say made under Greg Williams as a head coach. But pretty kitchens really designing the offense catered towards the talent that they finally had. And now we are here. We are talking about eight and a half wins as being a low over under something to jump on. Because it's going to go up right crazy when we talk about coaches being under coaches like a coaching tree like the Bill Parcells tree the bell. Check tree. How do you guys? Imagine that isn't an actual just regular Trie, and the coaches are sitting on the branches or is like a tree house, and they're all living in a great question. I think I picture a tree and the tree bears fruit and the fruit is like a face of a coach, right? But there's. Like a little bit of green imagined. The hair. But it's like, right. I imagine like a trunk right? And it goes up, and then the it's hired of the tree. I'm with Mike. It's it's it's like Bill Parcells face, right? And then from that drops little pieces of of fruit. You know? Yeah. That's the way. I imagine. It's a living tree like they hit in. It wasn't at the Keebler cookie commercial that had a living tree. That's the way I picked into a ticket tree or something. Like that. Like Winnie, the Pooh style with a little door at the mar I think so. Yeah. Pleasant pleasant visual. Yeah. I am from the Mike Greenberg. School broadcasting his trick. I part of the greenie tree. No, I'm not. I'm not even close. I may own tree. It's for people who who can't pronounce words and have little opinions or thoughts. Anything? Anyway, Mike Greenberg get to join us why because Dan's out, and I wanna talk jets with greeny. And he said he likes what the jets did not on one level, but two levels. We'll find out those levels together next donlevatar book, go stugatz. I do like that idea. Go the Goldie, greedy. I like the idea of a friend named the Gajah Goldie libertas show with this Stu gods on ESPN radio. Greg Cody infra labrador today. Mike Greenberg to join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Right now, check him out every morning. Get up on ESPN. Does a great job. And everyone knows I love greening. I know if gritty loves me, but I love greenie it might I would say the greenie open for stupidity. I don't know if you could pull that or not new episode jobs today, I would maintain that. That's the best part of my podcast. It's all downhill after the greenie open. Do you agree? I was so pleasantly surprised that helped us out with that. Yeah. It still hasn't gotten old the overly dramatic open. And he was kind enough to help us out that make sure to check out potty one at hits. We'll let you know. It's dropping today. Greenie gotten comments on that open because you absolutely nailed it. I mean. Many comments. I can't tell you how many people loved it. So I'm thrilled. I was delighted to do it. I'm always happy to be any part of the idiocy that you bring American public on a weekly basis. I love you you. Greedy. Put me put. He put me where you were. Okay. When you found out the news. I'll put you where I was. Okay. Okay. Was around four fifteen in the morning. I got an alert on my phone several. But this one I actually woke up to add realized the jets at side Levy on bell. So what did I do? I started walking around my house. No joke. My wife gave on the show yesterday to verify this, greedy. I have a tiny little liberty bell that I just started ringing around the house. Waking up my kids, waking up my wife. Everyone was furious with me what was the reaction in. The greenie household. Mine was much quieter. I to woke to the news. Well, I went to sleep as we all did the night before to the news. The giants had become the jets, and then I woke up the following morning to the news. The jets became good. So I was delighted and I think it is an abso. That's where I was I woke up and and check by phone as I do as everyone. I guess does. Now first thing every morning, and it was the first thing that I saw. And I I wasn't you know, it's funny because it was something that we expected it was it certainly didn't come as a shock and get was still stunned. I mean, maybe that's the way to put it. I wasn't surprised, but I was stunned. I'm gonna I'm gonna put some numbers to this guy. I know, you know, them already Levy on bell averages. More rushing yards per game than Emmett Smith or J Simpson he ever does more catches per game than Chris Carter, Terrel Owens or Michael Irvin. He is both a hall of fame runner and hall of fame receiver, and he's on the jets around the country who are not fans of the jets. There's really no way to describe how how. Unimaginable. That is because levian Beller guys who play on other teams, they don't play on the jets. The jets have guys like Clark gains. The jets have guys like Bruce Harper. The jets have guys like Emerson boozer. Now, the jets guys it only we know and love our little community of jet fans. Love these people, and no one outside of us has ever even heard their name, the notice that we now have the idea that we have levian belts is unfathomable to me. It really is. And that was so well put by you. And listen, I think we all knew or thought we knew that it was going to happen. But I will tell you that I had you know, pause for second. When the jets went back to being the jets because Anthony Barr who signed with the jets became physically ill upon signing with jets and then decided to go back to Minnesota. Yes. I mean that was disappointing. Because obviously, he's someone that the jets wanted to have. And I think that no building a dominant defense is not a bad idea. But I think the jets have a lot of good defensive players. And I think the jets need there's really only one thing that they need. Now. Jamison Crowder, by the way, they sneaky great signing the most important thing. The jets can do over the next two years is develop a quarterback. Anyway, the most important thing they now need to do is build that offensive line you, and I will remember a year that they had two first round picks used one of them under British Ferguson and the other Nick Mangold, and they had a good offensive line for a decade. That's what I would like to see the jets. Do. I'd like to see them turn the third pick in the draft into some way somehow turn that into two really good offensive lineman. They already got the guard from Oakland if they remake the offensive line. Then I think they have they give themselves the best chance to turn darnold into a genuinely great quarterback. And if they do then the jets are going to be good for ten to twelve years. Who who should be more dumbfounded with unexpected joy right now jets fans or Browns fans while no Brown. Look what the Browns have done, Greg. I I enjoy your your historical perspective on things. I if the even regardless of what they do this year if they win the Super Bowl, then this becomes extraordinarily relevant. But even so what is the greatest turnaround from being the worst team in sport and not only in a giving year. But the worst team in the history of the sport. They went Owen sixteen. They went one in thirty one over a two year period. There were the worst team in the history of the sport to this quickly being a legitimate Super Bowl contender. I think if you look in the history of American sports, I'm not sure how many turnarounds would be comparable to this. Now at all to come together on paper. It looks great. And they do seem to have some combustible personalities and they have a first year head coach. So I suppose it could all go sideways on them. But I don't expect it to. I think they're going to be really good. And I think it is one of the greatest turnarounds that we have ever seen in the history of sports, see, Greg. Here's the difference. Like, Mike Ryan's not old enough to remember Bernie Kosar. He knows of those teams. He wasn't watching them lose to Denver in the AFC championship game. Every so they had some success greeting. The jets have had recent success. They've been the back to back as each each against the Browns have been a disaster. Greenie forever forever, right? Always said about the jets. The jets aren't the worst franchise. They're far there were franchises that have been far worse. But what the jets specialize in that particular way of losing that particular thing that happens to you that they have they have it unique ability to reach into your chest. Pull out your heart it on the ground step on fire to it. And then step on it again until the fire goes out, very unique thing that the jets have. That's it's worse than its own way than just being bad. Like, you could become numb bad. The Browns have been you could never become numb to the jets. Meanwhile, what do you make this? Because while every team the Browns are doing what they're doing. And the giants are becoming the jets and the jets have become the giants. Bill Belichick is in the bar beta, swimming, and having a couple of Dockery's, I wouldn't you do it. Bill ballot. Check. He can go. Do anything you on anywhere. You want? Listen. Here's someone asked me yesterday. What what I think the jet ceiling is. And I think the ceiling for for the jets the bills and the dolphins. They are all sort of vying to be the team that is ready to step into the void that will at some point be left behind by Tom Brady. And I don't know when that is I expected it to be about two or three years ago. So whenever it is that he gets done with whatever it is. He's doing I mean at this point. There's no I don't know when the hell it's gonna happen. But whatever point it is that the patriots stop just completely owning that division someone steps in. And I think right now the jets are nicely positioned to be that someone I don't expect him to be a Super Bowl team this year. But except in I think there's a chance they could be pretty good. And I don't think it's inconceivable that if the quarterback develops at the rate that he might that they could be a top level SuperBowl caliber team year from now I love it. You said about the defense because for the first time in a long time the jet. Have when you look at the d line. It's Williams when you look at linebacker Moseley when you'll get safety Jamal Adams. So at each level of that defense greenie they have a great player. Yeah. The one thing that should be pointed out, and it wouldn't it wouldn't be a conversation about the jets. Have you didn't find something negative to say the the acquisition of Moseley and the attempted acquisition of bar only? Go to underline that the jets in two thousand sixteen may have had the worst after NFL history. The person who is in charge of it is still there. But their first round pick was Darren Lee, whom they clearly have now spent a fortune of money to overcome and the second round they traded up to draft Christian hackenberg who can't play in the developmental league. Whatever it is. That is now I don't even remember the name of the league. But whatever the name of the league that isn't the NFL is he's not good enough for that. That's the name of the league league that isn't the NFL in the second round that should be the name of that league the league that isn't the NFL. Right. And but it's too good for Christian. That. I mean, it's just unbelievable. It's listened to me. There are there's there's one St. on this show. Like, Stephen a Smith is on a rant on I eight we will stop whatever it is. Will do we're doing air that read the other thing was as a close second. But I'm telling you, Chris and Billy when you are doing top fives on get up. They will stop the show sometimes that we could pay attention. So with that in mind at check Rini every morning get up on ESPN. We thought it'd be fun to ask you. We were talking about the dead and company today, me-meeting, Georgia or Martin and his budding friendship. He and I have we were wondering the top five concerts. Mike Greenberg would want to attend to be living axe now Grigny, okay? They have to be a lot. So top-five will start might you have some sand or anything. Well, my machine just broke ROY. We'll have the fanfare Roy's Roy's gonna he's going to have the the crappy fanfare you've come accustomed to on the one hundred show. All right. So let's go let's go with number five number five. Try to be creative for you as I possibly could. Whoa. An act that I never got a chance to see. Then I would give anything to see I would love to see the police or one of my favorite bands of my youth reunite and play. I know they did tour together a couple of years ago. They didn't I didn't see it. I've seen sting. He plays a couple of police on's, and then a bunch of other really boring stuff. I would like to see the police get together and tour as the police circa like Atlantis more nineteen Eighty-three that would be number five. Number four number four. I saw this band play. But no one has seen them play all together outside of I think they got together for one one of the like the philanthropic concerts a few years ago, but I would like to see the original members of Pink Floyd play together. Again, I saw Pink Floyd in at the Nassau Coliseum. God's to to be near and dear to your heart in about nineteen eighty six or seven, but that was after Roger waters would gone I would like to see the original members of Pink Floyd together playing all their old stuff. Great. What I would like to say. All right, number three might number three. I wanna see Simon and Garfunkel one more time, I've never seen them together. I've seen Paul Simon many times when he did his what he described as his last tour in his last show, which he did in his hometown of queens. I was positive that Garfunkel would come out, and he didn't the two of them have a bad relationship at one more time before we lose one of them. I'd like to see them play together again. And I would like to be there when they do. Number two, the single greatest Super Bowl acts without question or Bruno Mars and beyond Fe. I think if the two of them played together, it would set the internet and everything else on fire. I'd like to see the two of them play a concert together. We took my family went to see Bruno Mars last year at Barclays he was phenomenal beyond say, obviously is a performance. I think she's almost universally considered to be the greatest performer of the current time. I'd like to see the two of them together. The number one. I got to tell you the one that shocked everyone in the studio is Simon and Garfunkel. Okay. Number one might go ahead. All right, number one. For me would be I I've seen Paul McCartney and I've seen Elvis Costello. And I would describe the two of them as as probably my two favorite individual musical artists who are still alive. They did an album together and sometime I wanna say in the mid nineteen eighties. And it's great. They have to my knowledge never played a concert together. If Paul McCartney and Elvis Costello played a show together where they played a bunch of Beatles stuff. And then if you have ever discussed low, I think that would be the for me personally in my musical taste the single best show. I could go see. So I will take Paul McCartney Elvis Costello live in concert together. Fantastic. We appreciate the time. No, you're busy. And I can't wait for you. And I to go to the Super Bowl together. I mean, we are there. It'll be phenomenal. I'm not sure who will see. But at some point in our lifetime. Maybe it'll be the jet. We apprec every morning get up ESPN check about Mike. Thank you. Thanks, guys.

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"Previously on the Tony Kornheiser show so now I have nothing to do. It's going to rain all day Friday man. I have nothing to do. Tony Delaware one of the few states remaining in the country cases a virus. So maybe maybe they're out there. I don't know what to do now. Is that that ice breaker tournament. Saturday fifty son. We are playing that. Can you signed me up while we can take this off their shirt morte Friday. This is General George Washington. And you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser. So I called up about the ice breaker tournament as a waiting list. I mean so. Many people signed up that. There's a waiting list to get outside we go. Let's cases go up. Maybe that waiting. Let's get shorter and shorter but I. I got US another place to play on Saturday so I mean I knew that it should be pointed out. Delaware no longer corona free. No no no places corona virus free and they won't be within the next twenty four hours and that's that's what we're going to talk about today main West Virginia Alabama here and I would get off the she literally the only story including in the sports world. Yeah we'll talk about it Chris Cillizza that was his voice. Gary Bronze Voice. You heard Michael Kornheiser's voice. You heard we are live to some degree. Nigel will produce the show. Do the news what news there is and Run the board. I will give you the time line last night for me. And maybe you'll think this is interesting I don't know we were preparing for the PTI show And we usually depending on when it gets onto the set. We usually start between four forty five and four fifty. So it's it's it's right in there really is and we are able to finish the show. We're able to finish taping by five twenty five in the show airs at five thirty Occasionally it's not rare. It's occasionally we have to go back into the show and do something live. We didn't have to do that yesterday. I'm just giving you the timeline to explain. We had no particular show yesterday until yesterday happened. And at some point yesterday Probably four o'clock. We were going to lead with things like the. Ivy League has suspended its tournament not GonNa have it. A variety of governors have said that there will be no crowds above a certain size which will affect sports venues. Obviously me my guess is when they get to two hundred or two fifty what they're talking about and they don't want to say it is. We'd rather you didn't go to church. We'd rather not be a crowd like that. I think that's the religious component and that's very off putting for people if you do that but what you WANNA do. Is You. Want TO SORT OF DRAW. A circle around gatherings that you think would foment The passage of the corona virus which by the way. Nobody knows they have for years. You don't you don't get it last night and say I think I got it. I get it in the morning. No develops for some long time. I'm I am doctor of not that kind of doctor but I'm just going to explain this to you at about four Fifteen Matt. Kelleher says okay. We're dumping the first story or were changing the first story. The big point of the first story was going to be that the San Francisco The Golden State Warriors. We're going to have to play a game. Their next game without fans because the governor of California had drawn that ring in California as the governor Washington asset the governor of Ohio. And we were going to talk about that. Mike had been somewhat reluctant to talk about the corona virus but had accepted that. This is the reality of the day. Well around four o'clock or four fifteen mark amored comes out with a statement the NCAA is not GonNa have any fans at all on it. So that gives us something to talk about because now march madness is a real big deal and so we are able to talk about that. We're able to lament that. I sent to Mike turned to Mike. What is your feeling? And he said sadness because he likes completely legitimate feeling. We all have feelings of sadness. What I didn't get to in that particular story and the point I the only point I ever make on. This thing is yes. This may be overreaction. But you don't WanNa be under react. No you're going to have to stress to you. Have TO CHOOSE. Overreact looking thing you can do if you If you need an example of underreaction in its consequences I give you Italy Yeah they didn't move quickly enough and now it is getting to the point where you have doctors literally saying we may not be able to save elderly people that we need to focus on. I was an elderly person this is particularly and I would argue with no disrespect but but people who know people who are paid to know. Do not suggest. That is an overreaction. They suggest is okay. But I'm saying that if you're going to take a position here the position is that public safety is most important and if if it feels like an overreaction so can you live with it because you live. Understood feels like the argument. They should have had with the Mayor of Amity and should have listened summer so we do. We do that story in the thing. I don't get to in the thing that I wonder about and I find out this morning that other people wondered about it too was well. If you're going to have no fans at all the NCAA Games. What are you doing with fans at all these other games? That are being played in front of me right now like last night. I am watching the Colgate Boston University game and they are fans there and and they're the ACC. I had fan. So you're big east vans that they were their fans. Okay so now. I'm getting to the heart of what happened to me last night in the real time that had happened. I'm going around the dial and I land. You know I'm watching the colgate game and I go back there's an NBA game on ESPN. It's Dallas and Denver. Now I like to watch Dallas and Denver. I don't think they're great teams. They pass the ball. Well shoot it gets there there good teams to watch it somewhere in the second quarter. I'm not really paying a whole lot of attention to it. 'cause who who really cares. I don't but you know it's on somewhere in the second quarter. They cut the Scott Van Pelt at a set in Bristol. And he's talking to some guy in Oklahoma City whose face I recognize his name. I don't know and I go. What's this and there is a crawl. The guys explaining what's going on and they're on the crawl it says. Tonight's Utah who they plank. Ac Okay See. Game has been cancelled and the quote is due to unforeseen circumstances. Okay here are unforeseen circumstances one. Somebody shot somebody but there's no police presence. They are in Utah. Known that media four two media apocalypse meteoric hand thousand is someone has the virus. Someone has a player or coach a staff member. Somebody has this and as it turns out it's rudy go bear who has tested positive for this and with stunning swiftness all NBA game. Yes our postpone. The season has been postponed. The season has not been canceled and as we learned the other day there are a lot of people not a lot of people in the NBA. But there's a couple of people the NBA will say with their season has the wrong arc to it anyway. Let's just finish it in August. Let's start it in January and finish it in August so the NBA has already thought about that and and they're not again. They're not canceling but they are still. We're in a work. Stoppage makes all the sense in the world. I see that I go. Wow then I get. I don't I don't do twitter. I don't know any of that stuff. I see that everybody else is the Hulu. I don't do it but I did get a message from somebody fairly high up. Espn within the next ten minutes. I had written this person a number of texts Saying well what do you think this is it can only be one thing? What do you think the response and so on and so forth and then I get this one line thing. Nba season postponed. And this is and again. I'M GONNA use this phrase again stunning swiftness. As which means they? Which means they had planned. Yep Yeah they had a plan but this was their worst case plan. You don't run just shut. Somebody gets it and they had said well we're going to show made that determines it happened Because I am a person on twitter so I'm watching. I'm we can see that mark. Cuban was getting his react in the front row in Dallas. Bay Somebody works for what this over? He went won't Three things were happening. Almost simultaneously on trump. This is around nine PM. Eastern trump is speaking right. Which I'm sure we'll get to Sarah. Palin is revealed on the mass singer. Singing baby got back which was a whole other thing but these are all signs on twitter on social and then and I was GonNa say you're not actually gone there. It is revealed to be positive and within seconds literally within a minute and a half Hank. Tom Hanks Rita Wilson. Well I think the time extra first and then within seconds of that. Nba season can't really like an oral history of that fifteen minute. In America I think the most surreal twenty minute period of my life. It was like what's going on is just the most random and at the same time a nerve ing and scary and understanding and comedic and just oh I thought so weird one other thing right around that same twenty minutes a tweet. I get an email from Maria Cantwell. Us Senator from Washington. State's office. It says we haven't at staffer who is just tested. Positive literally in that same twenty minutes done by the way if you extend it to thirty minutes then you had the White House walking back three of the policy announcements that trump had announced. So what's going on here so we are There are five of US sitting here and five people convene in the studio whenever we do this show to our knowledge. None of us has this right now but we are one degree of separation. We HAVE TO BE. We have to be it will. It will be revealed that somebody we work with somebody. We know somebody. We've seen has tested positive. And so then we have to do what we have to do. you know of disappear and recede into the weeds for while at my age as it for me. That's not necessarily from me. They they keep making the point that you know eighty and up and with medical complications but when you get past all of them you get to me you know you get to me number. Two with a bullet. I I'm am I frighten I. Of course I'm frightened by it. It's on paralyzing. Fear I have other things. In my life for paralyzing fear airplanes paralyzing fear there but ferries anything on water. Yeah but but I mean you have to be cognizant it within the last two weeks. The public pronouncements have gone to. We got this to a hundred million people are actually going to get it in the United States of America. It's not what they meant when they said we got a hundred million people now most people and I'm sure this is true. I'm sure there are people walking around with it. And they are relatively unaffected. They're young. They're strong and they don't really know that they have it. There's other there's other complications if you live where we live in Washington. Dc in the last week the blossoms are out everywhere. I mean spring. It may snow in May smell. But it's this. Is it time seasonal allergies pollen is is just around the corner and your your eyes get watery and you start. You have a dry cough all of these that you have from seasonal allergies in as it corona viruses. It's seasonal allergies but when and to keep this in a sports context and we'll get later in the show we'll get to all the other things. Mary not be cancelled. But when there are things you depend on in your life. I'm sorry one of them is the schedule of sports What do you mean that's it? We're stopping will end the schedule of sports around this time of year where it is yeah. The spring turns attornal. Yeah Yup oh you mean. I not cancelled postponed. Everybody wait everybody like that game over there. Also well. I'm sure we'll about this later in the show but NCAA. Let's talk about it. I want to have to have some pace on the show but yeah there are things we're going to talk about that. Include what happens to the? Ncaa's does it simply go away. What happens to the masters what happens to opening day in baseball? The Olympics is. That's out of our control you know. That's in different country which probably has a different arc with this virus in China now is bringing back American players to the Chinese basketball league. Basically saying we're good now. It's on the down side now. I don't know that I believe that. Renting them with lifetime banishments return. Okay so let's make one recommendation for us as a crew here. Better be funny funny. It's very serious topic. I know on Fridays. We generally gathered. The golden corral would flow say just. Gm HOTELS VEGAS ASK a relevant question. Are we still doing stonehenge? So we'll come back. It's Steve Sands go. Join US send yes will join us from Pony Vedra Florida the site of the TPC which networks like to claim is the fifth major. It isn't it's just it's a gimmicky tournament with a gimmicky whole. That's fun to play. You've played it right. I have Nailed it and you know Jack. Hit the three jacket part. The played with jaws and bought it and he played a furic right. Yes played with Jeff York. 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Satchels Pizza in Gainesville Florida from six to nine wonderful wonderful much when I die alone. It'd be torn apart by wild dogs here. You Go back and make that happen. Yeah Steve Sands joins US now. There's a million questions about golf that I have having watched intently for the last few weeks but the most important question starts with this. Will there be spectators at the T. P. C? And indeed the. Tpc is it going to be played is has it started already. Yes the They're gonNA play today and there will be fans today. I would not be I would. If I was a betting man I would say they're going to play the event but they will not have fans all four days but today everything goes as normal. Okay so let me get to the overriding question here in golf. And that is always the masters what we have seen. The people at the masters do before is protect their sponsors against Martha. Burk and say you guys are good. Don't worry about it. We won't have any sponsors this year. They have the money and the prestige and the foresight to do whatever they want will indeed be a master's in will it be a common masters or will there be an extraordinary circumstance of fans there. Yeah it's GonNa be a tough one I I. I don't see how the NBA suspends. Its regular season. The NHL has already restricted Locker room access the NCAA. Tournament has taken fans away That final four weekend is let's say final four Monday championship. Monday is the Monday of Masters Week. I don't see how golf puts his head in the sand and tone deaf and doesn't do something that's different than what is normal and the masters always takes the lead in that regard the PGA toward doesn't necessarily do that all right and they usually not following his bad but after nine eleven they waited for Major League baseball and the NFL to decide what to do before deciding what to do with the event that particular week. So I I don't see how fans will be allowed because this is going to get worse for a couple of weeks before it gets better right. Absolutely that's what every doctor says. Yes far will I. I don't see how the masters allows fans to come in. I don't see how after this week. The PGA tour allows fans to go next week to Tampa or to Austin in two weeks for the matchplay. So that's that's what I want to get to and I want to make sure that people understand this. The master's is its own governing entity. The masters exists independently of everything else. It's not governed by the tour but the tower itself is the backbone of golf in the United States. How prepared are they for this? Who is the president of the tour? What have they said publicly or or have they said nothing? Jay Monahan is the commissioner of the PGA tour. Very Good Guy. Very smart You know he just took over the reins In the last eighteen months or so two years from Tim. Finchem Julio Long-time Commissioner the PGA tour. They're prepared there was a statement. Put out late last. I was going to bed last night just after midnight. They put out a statement And that was about two two and a half hours after the NBA had called off. Its regular season were suspended. Its regular season there. Prepare for Tony but you know they also might need to be prepared for some backlash from the public. If they just choose to do nothing now there's no reason I guess to suspend play today or not allow fans in today. He will not be aggressive. Roughly would have done it so you know there's there's two sides to the story but I I still see how other sports you know. Take drastic measures and you know with the mariners playing in Seattle. That's totally understandable the MLS I guess in Seattle not going on to Seattle obviously is the hardest of all the US. But as far as this goes I'll tell you what's going to be interesting. So south by South West is a huge festival you know see in Austin Texas. It's a massive economic boon for that city and a city shows to cancel it. If the city of Austin says you know what we can't have you. Pga Tour then the PGA tour is going to have to do something obviously Next week is in Tampa right outside. Tampa Palm Harbor Florida if the city decides you know what we're not taking a chance then the PGA tour is not going to be allowed similar to what's going on next week in Dayton Ohio With the first round of the NCAA tournament where the governor said that you can have the games but you can't have people there so the PGA tour might you know have its decision made Ford by local governments. It'll be it'll be fascinating to see how this all plays out but it's it's moving so quickly and so rapidly changes every hour I just don't see how the PGA tour doesn't react at all with its biggest event here this week at the players since does does the travel ban affect the international. That's what I was. GonNa ask you. There are so many foreign players foreign nationals. Now there's you can't come from Europe. How does that they go home in between the stuff or you you if you are a PGA to a player? Gary you are flying anywhere around the world where there's an issue there's no way that the PGA tour can allow that. I mean look what happened last night. So Rudy go there Gets it test positive for and the League decided. That's it that's no more. It's not like anybody else has tested positive Ford and good for the NBA for deciding that And be proactive in that regard so the UK is allowed Allowed to travel back and forth the UK. Most of the players will be traveling internationally. But they happen to be in time of year guys where because the masters is in four weeks. I think that there's not a lot of travel back and forth already here. They're already here in the. Us players is here whether they played Tampa or the mashed player layout Texas open or not. Normally this time of year. Josh's will play one or two events this deep into the season before getting into the master's and they stay here in the US so yes it will affect things no question about it But I think these guys are smart enough to know whether or not they can come and go as they please so we weren't here if they're not here. Now they're not providing can come from England right but if if Jon Rahm for instance was was but if he comes from England well via England yes right but if this is your Garcia and Jon. Rahm decide to go to and from Spain. They can't go see their mom. For instance hypothetically they can't do that We were talking last night There's a Chinese player. You may or may not have heard of the museum is how tongue lease a very good player He has been in the mix it certain big events if he were to be eligible to play in the batch play two weeks if he has been in China in the last. I don't know four or five weeks with the PGA TOUR. Allow that or would they have to allow it That kind of thing. So it's a great question it Jon Rahm. Sergio Garcia Chose to go to and from Spain where they're from On a private jet. Sergio for flies privately I I think the PGA tour would absolutely have to step in there When you have a federal decision that's made that you can't travel to and from a country And and if somebody decides to do that on their own because they're not like commercial you have the means to do it. You would think that the tour would say this or you can't do that so let me let me you know it sounds to me like you're saying that the PGA tour may well allow local entities to form their plan. They may not have a long term plan. I mean I have absolutely no idea but if if gatherings are not allowed past number X and number axes in the hundreds it's not in the thousands it's in the hundreds. What do what do you do? I'll tell you one thing I'll tell you one thing the PGA championship is being played in. May number moved from. That's right earlier in the season not to conflict with the NFL the PGA championship is being played at TPC. Harding Park in San Francisco San Francisco. Which has if if I was a betting man again. I would say that that is not going to take place in San Francisco that it either takes place somewhere else or doesn't take place. I don't think San Francisco is going to allow that. I don't think the PG ever America is going to have it there now. I wouldn't know certain local certain local places. Certain places are having an issue certain places or not so the PGA towards a different spot than say the NBA where the NCAA tournament. Because those are enclosed quarters just like festivals and concerts or cancelling is outdoor sport. Do you notice baseball. Hasn't done anything I know the mariners but I'm talking about it is to talented not yet. This wasn't I think. My father went through the net spring training. Game last night You know I mean there's I they haven't done anything. That's an outdoor sport as well so very tricky spot when you're dealing with an outdoor game compared to indoor sport the NHL so far hasn't said anything right. I think I think within twenty four hours. Everybody's going to have a policy. I really do I think. Because of the suddenness with what the NBA did your damn players in the NHL as well. Yeah so exactly I. I think that I think the shells almost kind of have to follow suit with what the NBA s because not only do they share arenas but they also. It's the same type of sports gathering for them just like the NCAA. Tournament is but baseball and golf are different. They're outside so maybe they follow different rules but they absolutely have a play a plan in place the PGA towards on top of it. I just think they`re. They're trying to buy their time and see if they continue to keep playing. I WOULD I. Can I ask one like strict golf question About your about your favorite guy who is probably my favorite guy to rory mcilroy. Who's gagging like a dog? On the weekend I mean you can. You can finish top five three thousand times but if on Sunday you're within a shot or two with elite and you fall back every single week. It's not people aren't shooting. Sixty one to win the tournaments. He's not doing well on the weekends. Why is that yeah? I don't know it's weird last week. He opens with a sixty six And went backwards the next three days. Yes not very rory like I think it's a little bit of a blip on the radar Tony. I don't think it's that deal I I think that just certain circumstances and certain conditions Did you know so up with his game At the time maybe the sixty six was a bit of an aberration as opposed to the next three days But the pattern of Rory Riviere play. Well getting contention. Don't win Mexico City play. Well getting detention. Don't win last week. Bay Hill same exact thing. That's three tournaments in a row Not supposed to win every single week. But if you if you're the number one player in the world in your rory mcilroy and you get off to a good start at your on the first page leaderboard. You've got to win one of those. Yeah that's I wouldn't be worried about it just yet He's the defending champion here. This week He should play very well here this week. By the way no one is ever successfully defended a title here at the Players Championship. So that's kind of an oddity I don't know I wouldn't be worried about him Just yet when it comes to a playing poorly. When he's in contention I I think it's just kind of a a weird thing that's happened. Last three TRAUMAS but with the master's coming up. Do you think that affects his mindset going into that the last remaining major first Grand Slam so that he can just dunk it on number twelve. He was frustrated. He was as frustrated as I've ever seen him like alarmed. Sunday at Bay Hill He knew he had a chance to win. A four under was the winning number by Cyril Hatton and and there's no reason that Roy didn't get four under better And went on Sunday at Bay Hill. I don't think it will mess with his You know mentality going into the masters but there is no question that when the masters is the last of the four majors you haven't won and you've been trying to get this done since two thousand fourteen. I told you guys this every single year. We'll talk about it in a few weeks of the master's again the longer it goes the more pressure Is GOING TO BE PUT ON HIM? Not just externally but internally You know you just hope. For his sake he gets out of the way You know this year next year because man it'll just continue to build and build and build. That's such a hard place to win. There's less oxygen there than there is anywhere else in Golf But I don't think that what's taking place over the last three or four starts on the. Pga Tour is going to affect the way. He goes about his business at Augusta three weeks. Four ten Sanchuan chase younger draft picks on what with that off I saw on number one? You won't chase young or draft picks when we got a couple of seconds. Stop chasing the game record could be. Lawrence Taylor J. Please thank you Steve. Talk to you soon appreciate it. I just take your Steve. Sands of the golf channel did I did. I read correctly now that we've lost him. I should've asked this that. I read correctly that the golf channel is moving to Connecticut. Yes yes moving Connecticut with Good Steve. That quite I I let him go. I I screwed that up. Moving to Connecticut is leaving. He'll text us later. Yeah all right all right. We'll take a break. We'll have news new kind of news. We'll just talk for a while when we return. I am Tony Kornheiser Lewis. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. I don't know about you but the show has been pretty depressing for the last few days. 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It is now eight twenty in the morning on Thursday eastern time eastern daylight time by the time you hear this. It'll be eleven twenty in the morning or or noon or something like that and by then the NCAA may well just say you know what we're done we're done. We got college kids here and just taken away. The fans were still sending them all around the country into environments. That are different for them and in college one gets all get you know. Well I don't know what's going to happen. I just think it's a very. It's a very hard thing for Ohio State. For example to say all right we're doing distance learning everyone's going home for spring break except you athletes. You'll be you'll be traveling around the country hotel on each side with the Ivy League. I just I tumble Br. I hesitate to make predictions because I thought Hillary Clinton would be president but a ribbon on. Well no I nailed that one. That's still there's still time for that but I I don't see how you keep. I don't see how this this doesn't end up getting him as We we sing reports this morning albeit on on twitter. I don't know if they're confirmed or not not confirmed yet okay but of potentially other another NBA player on the same team. We're as ready go bare ten positive. I mean there's going to be and that's going to put more pressure on the NC. Look if you saw Anthony Bouchier yesterday. He testified in front of Congress and he basically said it's GonNa get significantly worse and the thing that's really important is the for most of us in this room. The key here is not if we get it in that probably includes Utah but if we get at that's probably going to get over it but the key is we can be carriers for people who can't get over. It will overwhelm the hospital. I mean this idea like just like a cold. Well maybe for. If you're under seventy five now I think if you're under fifty right I mean although some of those people did you say fifty one bad best did not say fifty one. Everything is in play. Baseball is in play the masters in play as you heard sandy say the Olympics are in play the NHL may have to follow the lead of the NBA. All Day. Say No. We're not going to follow that lead. We're going to continue to play which is not going to have any fans The owner of the two winter sports teams in Washington. Dc that matter Ted Leonsis. He was gonna just keep going to bring. In order from chestnut he was going to keep going Not GonNa it's not gonna get to one piece about the masters sure so notoriously. This is the hardest ticket to get in sports nine this year and it goes to the secondary markets. If you don't practice round ticket they are less than half of what they're normally going for. So it's already under five hundred dollars for Monday or Tuesday if you want to go to the tournament proper. It's about a third of the actual price and I don't know what goes on with the with the fine print. So I if you're if you're the original ticket holder I think you'd get your money back. Which is a fraction of that. But if you're getting the secondary market I'm not sure how that works but then you have to ask yourself. Would you take the nobody? Does nobody buying a ticket on the secondary market is GonNa be guaranteed any refunds actually. I'm not sure I think places like seatgeek might in the event that an event is canceled because they they know exactly who you purchased it from. I think they might be able to well. Most of these tickets in the masters are sold privately. Excellent yes they're private Is there an NFL draft in a different city than there will be a draft was televised? But will it be like the last few years why crowds of fifty to one hundred thousand people? When is that April Twenty eight? I do? You're looking at a potential of a month. Two months of basically every major gathering being canceled. I just I the N. Even when people kind of try to stand against it south by south west of Austin like on a Monday he was like well. We've talked to the the health officials and we're going to go forward and like thirsty was like and it's canceled the the P. R. Legal pressures in addition to the health concerns are just this winter snowball rolling. Only way to really to defend against this is to avoid gossip. Do It's do it. South Korea and China did which is essentially decided you you. You can't go any where it's what Italy is doing Miami store Italy's supermarket. There's something Farsi yet. Pharmacy and supermarket. But other than that. Italy's saying you you count while restaurant. You cannot go out other than now. It's it's a democracy it it's it's a lot easier to do that in China candidly Democrat here. Just going to say well. What are you gonNA shoot me? Go so NFL draft for Vegas this the NABC caller is called is GonNa take a big DNA be cancelled which is a huge deal. I mean the National Association takeouts giant giant giant invention. That's already Killed It for Vegas. But there's the this thing needs to be contained before you can truly mitigate the effects of it and you've seen it contained a reportedly in China here is close to contain. I mean there are thousands of people with it. Who Don't know they have. Who are not there. There are many people in our country who think they might have it who were not able to get tested. And that's I mean if you follow. There's a not an infinite but a large number of twitter threats to Gary's point in which people are essentially. Look I have a fever and a cough I went I. I got tested. I don't have the flu. I asked for the corona virus test and I was told I mean know favor the prescription is yeah L. Nortel walking always has it right right. I never think about just swerving my car on a personal level. I was going to go Michael. We'RE GONNA go to Florida next week. We're going to play a little bit of golf planning to Michael's going alone and dutiful there and upon talking to a bunch of people who like and respect to our peers Some said just go. Because you're gonNA stay private home and you're going to play golf and it's going to be fine and my sense was if this if I get this virus in my own grid in the place where I'm comfortable. Okay so be it. But why am I going to put myself in a new place where I could or could not? I don't I don't have any idea so I've decided I'm not. I'm not going to go to that And maybe that's the wrong decision. I think a lot of people are deciding. Similarly they're saying let's stay close to where we are and let's wait for this to pass if and when it passes an schools by the way my son my kids schools are closed tomorrow and then and then they have spring break for two weeks. I'd be interested to see what they did. If they didn't have for springs on the planet they come back after spring break. Yeah I mean everything is I think most public rules. Some time in the relatively near future will do the same. I think years county already today. You're seeing teachers do. They're having like teacher days. Where teachers are kind of being schooled on distance learning emanates. Everything suggests we are going into a full societal shut down but if I can't as our resident alarmist if if I can just say that I was there is there is like in air of of Hubris about this thing that I perceive from us like my. My kids are in public school in Montgomery County in Montgomery County is still going on. And there's a handful of cases. Michael mccown even know what it is maybe six or eight and multilateral from that Nile cruise but but Like it wouldn't be hard to say like Montgomery County public schools every two hours. We're GONNA take a five minute break. So kids could go wash their hands. You know it's like I. I think there should be a little bit more austere measures. I think them are currently so I think we we're a little bit A little bit. More sensitized to this thing that we get the bear thing last night where the video emerge of him a couple days ago. Touching all the microphones at the presser. Oh the humanity you know well first of all. He's a kid. I mean it seems to me like something a kid would do. Who kind of feels like. Yeah this things going on but come on. It's not really that serious. And why would he think that because there are a lot of voices out there? I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS. But there are a lot of voices out there who until very recently been saying. It's not that serious and it's been anyone who's been paying attention I've been particularly dialed in. Because of some personal interest has realized this thing is is nuts and there are by most expert reports. They're five to ten times more cases currently in our country than are being reported and they tell to friends and so on and so on and so so things close and restaurants close. I think Broadway's going to have to close. You are one hundred percent when you say. Maybe it's the wrong decision Florida's not going anywhere anywhere. I mean he might not WanNa play with you in a few. Miami's going somewhere but that's another story so no I. I think you're doing completely the right thing. Thank you I thank you. I don't need your approval but thank you i. I'm not offering approval. Just my opinion expert. What you what? You're doing. Great what you wonder about what you wonder how long you know how long until there is a sense that not that it's completely under control but that we've seen the worst of it and it's going the other way. I have no doubt that scientists will be able to come up with some sort of vaccine. But they're not it's not available tomorrow. It doesn't work that way. You have to tested because if you give it to the general public and it's not good. It's far worse than if you don't do it at all so I mean you play the long game on Sept in my age we don't along that is or Cindy bornes eight seven but apparently reports are just one thing. It's not about the vaccine But Cleveland Clinic apparently in this is just according to initial reports in nine days has developed a corona virus tests. That is a couple hours. You'll know the result as opposed to a couple of days. Which would I mean people worrying? They're smart people working on this. Is that the people that they hire just for these things and there are people like that are working and they've been working for a couple of months they are the best and they are. They are and just on another note. You Know When you're surfing the internet or watching TV whatever and somebody's pitching some sort of ball molecule drink. This this'll kill you keep you safe. Don't it's all rubbish and lies but I do want to point out in this. Very brief. Newscasts Somebody from my countrymen of over my country from Leeds. Young student was sent home from school. Because he was selling little squirts of hand. Sanitizer at fifty pence apiece. Atta boy We sent homemade nine pounds. On that said he was gonNA buy a Kebab for his mum Cave his mum said well. It's Kinda hard to punish him because when I talked to his father he said this kid's a bleeping here up that's apparently with the rest of his money. He also bought some Doritos. It's great to read a sets. The weight charging five pounds of sport. Doritos all right. We'll take a break. We'll have old guy radio when we returned. Just more talk. It's just babble which is babbling and one of the things we'll talk about is what are not. We bothered to continue the show. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. This is a read. That'll make very little sense. Unless your name is Tony or Nigel. 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This was the first release on the Apple Record label produced by Peter. Asha at that point. Jimmy Taylor Young Jimmy Carter. Training caused him Jimmy. He's great he's great and we are playing this in honor of his seventy second birthday. That's right so he along with I am in that group of Cronin virus targets the on Deck Circle. That's pretty much it He wrote this song swinging with a donut hole. Sir Yeah Yeah This was written off the son of his older brother. Alex who is also named James in the title track from the album as you said Alex there was kate. So it's essentially it was living's Taylor that was the family lawrence not lawrence different different fields. Sweet Baby James is Great. I'm really is okay so I have a couple of things to talk about that I wanted to talk about and one is the Do you know that cricket ad on TV where they go he by? I hate this ad so my kids love. I would never. I'm not getting your own. Yes I am. Because I lo- the angers me it's effective. It's it's it's a repel sticks nails into my head. It's like that one. Eight hundred kids are is caused for kids. Seven seven cars. Michael Please Guard today seen the KFC ads for the doughnuts and Fried Chicken. You can get doughnuts chicken sandwich. Why would why would I wouldn shoe doughnuts bisected? Oh and then why not make just two chicken? Nutter melt the Donut who cares. I don't know chicken and wife -als Guy I'm not an and guy I eat the. Why Georgia browns guy like that food? In general the southern cuisine sort of I've gone. I went there once. I wondered when it was two blocks from the post. I went there once. I thought it was fine but it wasn't my style appraise a salad pork chop side. Yeah Scuba Challah. Dressing on the side So so walkers turn t where he eats items one by one last any starts with the starts with the cold it's just goes through. Sliced have tomatoes. No seasoning love and no nothing that loved the kid that scrape classic The United States Soccer Federation. This is a very interesting story. It's an actual sports store. It's also legal story. The United States Sports Federations being sued by a group of Women on the very successful world champion World Cup soccer team United States Team Megan repeal most prominent of them and so they had to do filings the other day they want. The women want equal pay. Diming I get this. They want equal pay and the position that the United States Soccer Federation took in their filings. Was We don't give you equal pay because you're not as strong not as fast not as good as the men and the quality of Competition you play his inferior to the quality of competition. That men plight are missing one key ingredient in that composition. They don't play against men. All I was going to say they win. They win at amendment. They win and they get really good ratings. Now it is true. There international icons. What is true? Is that the man when the men make the World Cup. Their ratings in their games win or lose are higher than the women's ratings but they don't always make the World Cup and they don't go as far so the cumulative rating of the women is much higher nine after time after time after time now if I were representing the United States Soccer Federation. I would have stuck to this one particular point which goes like this you the women and we the federation negotiated a contract in good faith. We reached a collective bargaining agreement that runs through twenty twenty one. So why don't you take this into the hallway and come back to us in twenty twenty one from a legal standpoint? That's GONNA win. This other stuff is really stupid really stupid to insult these athletes and insult them on the basis. That they are women they are women so the president of the Soccer Federation today. The a little bit late said I sincerely apologize. He actually apologized while they were playing last night. And they've had a protest before the game where they wore. Their shirts believes cup yet. What it's called leaves copying. What are you doing idiotic? What are you doing? It's so dumb how do you? How did the lawyers? I guess the lawyers didn't present this in any way or thought. Maybe it wouldn't be publicized. It's an idiotic argument. Nobody is saying that physiologically women are the same as men. Nobody says this in any sport. Nobody says this. What does it mean? Women don't play against Men Day. Play against what what are you? Did you take from the US Women's National Team Spokesperson Molly Eleven Center said this ridiculous argument in air. Quotes belongs in the Paleolithic. Erat sounds as if it has been made by a caveman literally. Everyone in the world understands that an argument that male players have more responsibility is just plain. Simple sexism and illustrates the very gender discrimination. That caused us to file this lawsuit to begin with I mean when I saw the soccer federation president. He's eight -ment. I the thing that I often do on twitter. I was like make sure. This is a parody genuinely thought because like who? How did you get this job? Bro? Like no way that there is. There's one sport stuff. There's one sport where you would say I don't know about equal pay. I'm not sure in tennis. Men play three to five and majors and women played two out of three. So what you do. If you WANNA make that argument is you look. When they have different days you'll ratings. He looked to see to the women. Get the same ratings. As immense Serena Williams gets fantastic ratings Maria Sharapova used to get tremendous ratings. I don't know if they're equal to veteran adopt but I suspect they are but I mean your that's your secondary look is that because you are honestly can say well. It's not exactly equal work. When soccer the length of the game is the same size of the field. Is the his the same? What what are you talking point? It has nothing to do with whether the men's team could beat the women. Of course they could. What immaterial now. The debate or not saying pay us. Because we're better than you write it. Just we do need on Eric to you and not only do we will work. We go further and tournaments and we get better numbers right. So what are you doing so and I I am? I don't know how I can see the federation winning the narrow aspect of this lawsuit and saying okay. We're not going to overturn your agreement. You know but the next one the court will say do you. Don't WanNa go here negotiation right. You don't WanNa go if that dude is still the president of the. Us Soccer Federation in a week. He can have corona virus. Thank for because only because if this were in a vacuum if there isn't this massive Global Piwnik that story we talked again typically idiotic thing to say so let's get to Let's get to me and my concerns on on this whole Cronin boxing. I'm not not being infected or anything like that. You know how feel about that. I worked for a sports television network Wolf. They're no sports. What what we do. What do we do? I mean my can I. Now we can see. We can do this podcast. This podcast is sports based but presumably you like it. Because you've come to like us you've come to like the meanderings that we do on the air you've come to like just just listening to us on a variety of things sports included. Maybe you don't I don't know I just don't know but ESPN which named as the entertainment and sports Network it. It's it's not entertainment and sports. That's what it is. It's sports if there are no sports. What are we doing man? Come on man come out here. It's a lot of doing a lot of eastport potential dudes playing like Zelda at home and watching what? I can't do that while you could even know what that is. These conversations are going on at Bristol. Right. Yeah sure class. What happens if the building in which you guys tape? Abc News host shuts down to not what they deemed non-essential which might be everything other than their own sort of one than it right. I mean CNN CNN your yesterday your Kazan in New York. There's at Hudson yards which is where CNN is. There was a Kanye west side All the way on the west side There was a case You know Hudson yards gigantic building. But they said basically non essential that nonessential. They didn't use that phrase but it was if you can work from home. We recommend it. And I'd like your sense. I think that's coming for almost everywhere. Sec has done it already because they were worried about a potential positive case skews Exchange Commission. You're going to see more of that. I have a good idea. That could be ratings. Bonanza any of those. Espn people are listening. Brackets just all brackets all the time. I still love brackets. We we accommodated bracket mentality and there may not be an NCAA tournament. I still think if solicit dunking booth just live or people would watch the face punching hundred dollars punch me in the face. Don't you I mean does this? It's called this afternoon will be sidelined so I don't know yes now. We're off today and we're off tomorrow for the tournament. I assume they'll play the ACC tournament. Maybe without any fe announced last night they announced finish yet because in the absence of a national champion. You want to have a conference champion if you can do it but as I sit here now I think to myself really. I don't think there's going to be an NCAA. Tony the speech. I mean. Think of where. You're three days ago on this stuff. Think of where you were twenty four hours doing the show if I told you the NBA is going suspense talked about it that all flights from Europe are effectively now cancelled because of what trump said not to look too far ahead. Two weeks from today is opening day. What's going to happen? So let's let's go back to the beginning of the show. It's this is what I do for living. I talk about sports if you tell me that the NCAA tournament is going to be played without any fans. There's no story bigger than that that I can imagine except three hours later that the NBA postponed indefinitely. Its season he go. Whoa I mean honestly that is a wide. What they didn't they didn't do that capriciously. They had that on. The table is not about the repeatedy. They had which go player was diagnosed and then they immediately it was. It was pushed the button press. Send the press release. They're at it. Yeah so I mean I don't know what do I have a job? I mean I have a job. Eventually sports will come back eventually. But but what is ESPN? Listen to this film. Listens to this. You know and I think that everybody in Bristol everybody in Los Angeles everybody wherever. Espn has to be saying. Well what do we do now? Tony this is two days of this but you can't do three weeks of well what's going to happen now. Conversation is happening all over the country. I mean some people's job is to pour beer at the NCAA tournament that's and the NBA. Games yep reason we I mean. We haven't even talked about the economic stuff but I mean we're we're now in South America. We're now in. The market is dropping the crazy. If if you again on twitter to the future's now it doesn't the market one open till nine. Thirty futures got so bad after trump's address that they suspended by selling a features which remember earlier this week they. I didn't even know this was a thing. But if the market dropped seven percent in a certain period of time breakers in your corner different about what? You did exactly. Why don't you stop doing crazy stuff? I mean if a couple of lines of coke before you continue selling off all your assets that could happen again you like. I mean trillions of dollars. Drake area in lost. Yeah just over seven days. We're reasonable people here. Well Rudy Go. Bare cannot possibly be the only athlete who is walking around with. Of course it's not possible baseball players yes kids. Did you hockey players come on? And it is not see. I think the mentality here is is very problematic. Gary mentioned this earlier. Did you see Fred Hoiberg? Last night he had a cold and he's got ripped for it because he was the assumed he had the Corozzo. So he goes he goes and he's like I'm not feeling well but I'm the coach which again probably we can't do it now. I get the tough thing can't do it. That's all they accomplish through and he had to leave at halftime. He has the flu now. He has the blue. It's in. I mean in its way Rowlett but like that mentality is hugely problematic again not to most of us because most of us if we get it you know you don't feel great you get better but it is you know. My Dad is seventy six years old he has. Copd he's in and out of the hospital like if my dad gets it. That's a real major issue. And so you have to trader restrict that stuff and so the whole like I mean. I'm I'm sick but I'm tough. I'm going to work repeal at work. That's a very reasonable feeling. This is not. This is not the time for that now. So so that's it. I have nothing else to say. No we'll have email in jingle when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. These are very special. Show wait the gun that people get attached to looking so spirits your weeper. They won't accept defeat they like dunk. Here profiles bomb but say that. She's creek down. She never fails to please read me. People began. How can I ask a practical question here? We do in that glide show no oh Jamie Julian not the incomparable Robert. Berg and Steve Lifted. I roll a spike. Just a fantastic song fantastic so appreciate that. I gotta read something from Nigel here. I'll I'll do today but before we get to the mail bag let me say face it. Can you throw up on Dean warm? Let me say thank you to Steve. Sanso the golf channel for coming on. Thanks today today to today's sponsors me undies blink list and go and see podcast hosted by Malcolm Gladwin and remember you can listen to us on. Apple podcast spotify. Google play radio DOT COM. If you have to show you I tunes please leave us a review from jol in Ashland Kentucky. So the kids didn't see the full moon outside for Uranus Hashtag. Never not from Sam Angel. Who IS TEMPORARILY MCLEAN VIRGINIA? Does this mean Lebron is the MVP? Yes yes Lebron is the MVP from Mike. In Burke. Virginia Sean Hannity is a very skilled broadcaster. I don't have a joke for that. I'm just astonished that those words left your mouth i. You're you're saying he is good at the art of what he is. You're not agreeing with him. I think what I can lead throughout. He's going as it relates the viruses deeply responsible. But you're saying he is someone who knows how to get ratings on television that's it. It's not a value judgment. What he says Austin in Portland Maine Dear Dr Ron. I asked this as a proud university of Maine alone with the NCAA announcing that March madness games will be played without a crowd. Should we ask the main and Binghamton? Men's basketball team what that was like when they play each other. Yes they show. We did this yesterday on. Pti Not on the actual broadcast to get an idea of what it was like to look at a game from viewing standpoint with nobody in the stands. We just looked at a minute of the G. League game now. There was no reason people couldn't go to the G. League gave his jaw chose not to go to the G. League game. You look terrible. Wash your hair Willie you e- You were spot on with your analysis of deer. Coming out of hibernation on the PODCAST. I used to work as a hunting guide and one of the craziest things is to watch an engorged stuffed with grass for a long winter sleep digging and scraping with its tiny hooks at soft spots on the hillside as they carved out little caves to bed down. There extended rem cycles. Sometimes they would take over an old bears Dan. Instead of digging up a brand new one of life's natural miracles they really dug during a full moon. However because the paternal head of the deer family would always force the children dear to stop all tasks and stare at the moon for hours before resuming spelunker activity. Ps Let the brackets showed. Die Hashtag with Michael Wonderful Nancy from North Potomac. Did you eat the orbit of Donald Patent? Ninety eight in Wednesday's Washington Post. Mr Patten was a member of the legendary basketball team which won its tournament. Despite posting a foreign eleven regular season record the team was called the five ironman because all five players played every minute of every postseason game the Binghamton should have been allowed to play. It's my position John Carroll in Washington. Dc Hail Man. If you and Michael would stop arguing over whether or not to go outside and look at the moon and instead pay attention to your own podcast. You wouldn't force us to listen to the Josh Norman Story twice. I'm losing my mind. Dale silty in Cedar Falls Iowa. A loyal listener has concerns about attending a rolling stones concert in Minneapolis of Charlie Watts. Seventy eight Mick Jagger Keith. Richards seventy five or not concerned. I suspect the rest of us should be just fine. I think I would roll the dice. Although Keith may be immune to Kobe nineteen any other subsequent numbers that make a law. Yes especially Mike Sorrento in Atlantic city. Owns your GRANDPA Ron? You continue to make the case that the coaches and athletic directors of the America East conference should be fired for voting to not give their players chance to play in the postseason tournament. Not Given a chance. How about not finishing? Dfl Are they not given a chance to do that? Perhaps a team of your youth New York Knicks deserve a play in game to the NBA playoffs for the chance of getting crushed by onto COMPO company. Do you feel sorry for James. Dolan that his team isn't even given a chance. I'LL HANG UP AND LISTEN. Thanks for years of entertainment. It's different proser different pros at different. Ps They always say there's sixteen teams the you know that before. Anyway maybe You mentioned that you take route forty rather than the Atlantic city expressway. Because you're not going all the way to Atlantic City. You're going east of it. Correct me if I'm wrong but east of Atlantic city is something like I like to call the Atlantic Ocean yet. You'd rather trust your keen sense of direction. No nailed it well southeast. Don't understand this other very funny bill. Nicholas Hey Dr Hoff couple. Quick thoughts said yes carol when telling the Pool Exit Story. Do I amuse you like spider? You know of course that all you work about having all nine America East teams include in the conference tournament which emphatically agree with will be put into effect. The BINGHAMTON is the eighth seed and Stony Brook is the nine. That's the only re- we'll win over your Alma. Modern then make the historic first-ever nine seed run to the America. East automatic bid the Cinderella journey will be called the Kornheiser on. Cbs Stony. Brook is a giant killer in the dance bring back bracket week. Thank you as always for a great show. We're off tomorrow. We're back Monday. I think because we can do this. Show if you're out of new bike type. Everyone always to wear white later. He gets the rebound. I meant the ready to say what happened. Tell myself slow grown so fond of you know when I return course will thank goodness. I do five through seeing that way or promised so only Ester last went down sing law said Dr Betty Ford Back. I smile in your finally came back. What T- say you never saw again? President's made skinhead notified you based on your sad. Well the cops are coming in. I got Canseco Round Up to debut. Is Tom Nurse Them? Bob This Marion go. Oh well you know bad head on down so come down to well. Why why? Why Gum Down Bread down here. Business Dean Boo and the Big Sky and win. So you know I gotta move well being gone from is saw at you to go as you come down to Mexico. Well you got quiz. So don't you come down to Mexico and to knock them out front flashing lots dance Iran anymore so Backed by a headed out the back door. I can't stay on. This will be the end or shaw well down. This is a and food.

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Jimmy Tatro, Josh Allen & Tre'Davious White, Plus Bigger Than Ben Part 2

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We got a little bit of chill in the air football's coming back. It feels great guys and James Harden stinks in a game seven. All is right in the world thinks in game seven. But what we saw was the emergence of James Harden as an elite perimeter defender last night he's all of it is one of. These things where if that shot had gone another way if one or two things have broken differently, we would be hammering James Harden absolutely hammering them. I, mean we still can't still only shot the ball three times in the fourth quarter and he is the Houston Rockets offense. So I think I think I can still out some James Harden slim we can slander them a little bit and he does look fat he does look at shape but he did hustle on that one play the counted Gal got a hand on the ball. The big story from last night's games was the end of both games and the bizarre bizarre officiating that came out of it, but it's to be expected really strange play calls. Yes. From the from the thunder wait the biggest stories Luder Max deal not just like saying Lou door it's a great name Lou door is such a great name in lieu door If you had a player who is just like you gave him all the athleticism. And talent to play in the. NBA. But he had no real feel for like pace or anything really. That's Lou door and it's so fun to watch because he would just drive as hard as he could have been the just chuck the balls hard as he could to like an unsuspecting teammate just wet from three, and then he would he had thirty and he would hit a three and then the next possession, he would miss the rim. And he's just and he is also the James Harden stop her and the only problem with thunder losing is we couldn't watch. Lou dort. FUCKING COUGH UP BRA for seven game series. He's like the kid in your in your class and like sixth and seventh grade that super athletic and really good at football never played basketball but he's just like so good because he set an athlete, right? Right? Yeah. No Hank hit the nail on the head. He is like if you're ever in your universities Jim and the football team comes into place and pick up basketball. That's how. Lou Door. Plays and I love the fact that his name is Lou Dort and he plays exactly like somebody that you would expect somebody like Luder to plunge the sink dort door to door is in session also broke into Dort Center I retreated the guy he I think he's had this account for a while now but it's just the report. Yeah, and I just love it and he's just like during the game like how how we feel about Lou Waller feeling. Great. It was also Jimmy Butler night Jimmy Butler home won't be I. To Chris Paul. The flop that one sequence where there's like six flops and basically both teams were saying like trying like we can flop our way to victory that game was built for Chris, Paul and Chris Paul noticeably. Absent towards the end there when he's like, hey, why not try to get to the ball and get a shot he was built for this though they set him up. So good for that. What he was coming is like Chris Paul is telling us like these are the situations he's been practicing for nearly just passed away and like it never was close to him getting shot. Also when they were talking about. Like Mark Jackson was trying to call he was trying his little heart out to complement short, but it's compliments kept coming out like this lewd dort understands that he stinks and that he's going to be left open for some shots because he is Lou Dort and he doesn't have a problem filling that role of being the guy who sucks. But that's why Lou door is a great player I was like wait wait a second March marceca's also the king of saying like. You're gonNa tell me that these guys aren't trying their hardest Michael Scott what could keep going keep going to tell you tell me that these guys don't want to win this playoff game like he gets into arguments with little Jackson's on his shoulder and he convinced narratives that don't exist. But I just love. Asked himself questions constantly going to sit here and tell me that these guys don't want to win this playoff game? It's like you know who who, who said that to you Mark Jackson all UK they all do. All right. So Jimmy not as best night, but the heat look good and I am actually ready we now. Richard. Jefferson has launched us. Prematurely. I might add because I was saving my honest slander for lease game three or green. Four. But Richard Jefferson launched the Internet into that by calling him a pippen and he needs a Jordan and we're off like two time MVP. I, assume he's GonNa win this year we're fucking ready to go no clutch gene stinks in the playoffs he's a bomb. It's hot take season. We have that debate earlier this year about Lebron James being more of a Michael Jordan. I think I think Lebron got so punked by the by the Michael Jordan documented that somebody I forget who it was but they throughout the take like Michael Jordan is more like a Scottie Pippen and now is like his Michael. Jordan. So now we're we've gone to comparing people, Scottie Pippen who by all rights? Five player player of all time I would say but yet he was on that list of the NBA's all time writes his a very good player. But if you compare an MVP to Scottie Pippen, you might as well be saying that their dog shit right and so now we're onto arguing about that they are down to nothing but it's like a bad to nothing. There's nothing about the bucks team that makes me think that they can beat the heat in seven games are the Celtics and some games yeah. I mean it's just It was someone made the analogy I think it's kind of it's not a spot on, but it's it's a little little APP that like the Yoenis right now regular season. Late ninety shack who puts up a ton of big numbers but the problem is you need a really good wing guy in the play offs like it's a lot harder the games get called differently teams can adjust and Y-. Honest. Just barreling to the hoop isn't gonNA work all the time and you don't really respect his three point shot and he's not a passer like as good of passers Lebron or even like a hardened so. Teams can can do stuff with him, and now he needs his wing guy he needs his Jordan or Kobe needs to find Michael Jordan or Kobe, Bryant? Poor. Chris, Middleton like Oh yeah. His about me. Well, Chris Middleton take when when you hear all the analysis there it's like John. He excuse me gone us. He is unable to drive to the hoop because like he's not like a great ball handler right in terms of creating his own shot that way he doesn't have a step back I. Guess he can shoot a jumper or you can jam on somebody. So He needs somebody that can get their own shot when John Attracting the defense and. You're right Chris. Middleton is that that's the role that he plays and he's not bad at it. Put every shot at John is saying that he needs a Jordan is a direct shot at Khris Middleton by the way I he didn't have a bad game. We're we're talking like You know it's it's obviously we're poking fun of the fact that we sports fans and sports media always have to immediately go to the hottest take of Yoenis now socks and he's a pippin which doesn't suck but like you said that's now become a slur he didn't. Pippen anymore on kind of like the James Harden thing where you in the playoffs guys who are that high level of players if they aren't able to keep that like if they just go down ten percent. It's totally different and it changes everything in the complexity of their team I do think the bucks are GonNa. Make a little bit of a series I wouldn't count them out fully, but it's it's not looking good in, and of course, trigger warning for Bucks fans any bucks fan listening right now you can skip thirty seconds ahead. Got Ask yourself. John. Astounded. Elite Milwaukee 'cause they don't have the team around him Well, they've got they've got Dante my buddy Dante very bad. They missed Deli. They Deli was the heart and soul. That's you're. You're right like the bucks were when they would overperform the playoffs then everybody was happy but they've set the expectation. So John himself he fucking. Crowned himself member when he crowned himself, he put a king's crown like a fake king's crown on his head after a big dunk and he's like I'm here I'm the king. So you can get criticized after that and and it sucks that it happens but it's sports world works I say it sucks has happened I actually loved that it happened because this is. The best part about being sports fan is saying Dome Shit, about guys who are incredible and winning MVP and being like bomb looking back at the end of that rockets thunder game you saw Chris Paul Chris Paul was he was the official on that last play they we're going to give them their. We're going to give them just another inbounds pass off the time out Chris Paul like win over argued with the refs for awhile convinced them that there was call he did a verbal flop. Like no, you call this against me I that gave me a drunk idea wasn't drunk but this is a drunk idea. A team or teams should just hire former referees that no the rule books really like back in front to be like the last guy on the bench said, they know all the loopholes they know what's going on in the court it's almost like like in Congress when. Oil Company will hire an ex congressman to be like their lobbyists there should be a lobbyist position at the end of the I think is smart coaches. Chris Paul would take a place like Chris Paul but like that's his role on the team to just communicate with the officials back and forth. Yeah I like that All right. So we're recording this early because we're gonNA head out for Labor Day, by the way we're going have a show on Tuesday and Friday next week Tuesday and Friday. So, get ready for that no-show Wednesday. We're GONNA Tuesday instead we have. So the Celtics Raptors are about to play. Solitaire GonNA sweep. Just settlements sweep four one. K. One. The they'll go home you know home advantage they'll probably will take one. I'd get that home cooking and Boston and. Oh you mean Toronto's going to go home. Just one room. and. Then clippers are going to kill the nuggets agreed yes. Yeah. Lakers are gonNA. I the Lakers are GonNa destroy the rockets, but there will be one game where the rockets just shoot the lights out from three and everything. Could it happen who knows and it's also I'm very excited. That's just because it's the Frankenstein series like I was saying. The rockets are going to just put out a bunch of guys that are six seven and below and the Lakers. I think can actually put out a full team that's seven and above. So who who, what will happen James Harden tired the whole time I just hope you'll have a game where he goes for forty-five though it'd be great if we got a game seven just to see him fail again. Yes that'd be wonderful. It's just it's just fun. It's fun. It's like that's the speaking of fun is a good segue bashing James Harden on twitter is something we can all bond Together, with I thought the same for Kirk cousins put apparently that is now off limits because Kirk cousins said if I die I die when talking about the coronavirus with Kyle Brandt and I I made a joke. You made a joke than people were like dude looked there's first of all. There's obviously the the Vikings stands which I understand like whatever everyone has fan bases or people in the fan base is like no kirk actually good. But then it obviously became political and people at Kirklands didn't do anything wrong listen I'm just making her cousins jokes I've been. Making her cousins jokes for very long time I'm gonNA keep making Kirk. I'm the King of stop hating her cousin. Yeah, I will. I will go to my grave I if I die I die making fun of Kirk. Cousins making fun of Kirk cousins is my personal big ten became. You know how you get really upset whenever somebody says, okay the big ten comeback no, it's not. Coming back like that will flip flops. You get sad I get sad envisioning a world where I'm not allowed to make fun of Kirk, cousins, it brings me such such choice to do and thing is like you can. Definitely, you can bend any stat and the Kirk cousins cinematic universe fit your narrative about him and be like you know you can cherry pick he's the most accurate. Passer, in the history of the NFL, he's the new Sam Bradford. When it comes to that he is he is just so fun to debate about because the people that will disagree with you. That love ones they they're ninety nine percent vikings fans, and then one percent just deluge people that are so much fun. Guys are just love her because I still I said it to will cain. tweeted like nothing kirk cousins said was wrong. He's getting criticized for this and I just want him dude if we can't make fun of Kirk. Cousins, I also don't care if I die. Yes. Like that same exact thing. I do not. If you're now saying, we have to respect kirk cousins. That's it deals. That's. Is Not part of the contract road always the world doesn't want need to exist anymore fucking toss twitter in a garbage bin and kill us all. We all just bite a cyanide capsule because I want to make fun of Kirkcaldy. Yes. If Kirk cousins says like I, believe that the Red Quarterback Jersey protects me from covid I want to be able to comment on that right and I don't WanNa feel ashamed about that. That is that's who I am I also I always get and I'm sure you get it to. where he will be like Dude, you root for Mr Bisky and I'm like listen man I I have a long list of years where I understand what bad quarterback play looks like. Yeah. I was speaking from a place I make fun of Mitch Trubisky and bears quarterbacks just as much. They make fun of Kirk cousins relax watched kirk cousins for five years I. Know I know more about kirk cousins and the people who are his fans right now know about kirk cousins God it's just it's all falling apart, right so I do have to I have to say. As much fun as it is to hate on kirk cousins another part of that interview where he was talking about creed and his love of creed I have to take my hat off and just absolutely respect the hell out of because he was saying that he wanted he actually had his representatives reach out to creeds representatives to see if they would play an acoustic show in his own house just for his own enjoyment and listen if you reach that point in life where you can like get your favorite band of all time to come over and play a private concert for you in your house just because you're. Bored you one you you have one life. So me sitting back and be like you look like billy football. If he caught botulism that should not offend you day it's also that's apportion of the podcasts were kirk cousins was doing a parody of kirk cousins. Yes. He's like what is the most kirk cousins thing? I can say I got a I tried to hire creed for personal concert I have Rick Rally Joke about okay. if Scott staps arms were so wide open, it's no wonder Kirk failed to connect with them. Good. That's good. That's really good. Our resident guy who looks like her cousins any defense? You Your Kotulek them. You look like her disease sport it's like when you catch. When Doctor when old people inject that stuff into talks into their face to make it not move anymore. That's the botulism toxin. Okay. Kirk cousins Kirk Cousins Aussie I'm also creed fan they've really uplifting they can also former quarterback. I think kirk cousins actually fuse on the team you definitely want he is this is the. you say of Kirk cousins was on the right team ended up in this contract. This team that he's currently on right now is the team that you would make an argument about of if kirk cousins was on a good enough. Of Line isn't good enough kirk cousins on. Jay Cutler playbook. Okay. Listen. If he had an offensive line, it would be fine what? Kirk cousins on the niners will win the super bowl yet. He's better than Garoppolo I think he's Listening to this show what's up George Greg kittle now I? Okay. savell that comment but do that. No. Absolute. So that's there you go. She's the best argument you make. Is that he came back. He went to a twenty one to nothing deficit against Shitty bucks team in the first half and then came back and barely won that game yelled at p Yeah and then yelled at people in the most passive. Incomplete of aggressive fashion possible. I'm just saying, I'm not worried about cousins in the spread because. And not worry about anything anybody catching anything from him. Okay and the spread. Of the spread of the disease audit, no one's going to catch a disease. I feel like read that can just misremembered reading it. Pat She wrote her feels like a word or two that you miss. I did anyway. Okay and then the other news was Leonard Fournette is now a buck. On had I really wanted him on the bears just so that I could say, how could you beat the two thousand, seventeen second and fourth pick. But WHO's like why? Why are people saying this is like a Big Game Dream, team dreams him yeah at some point in the last twenty, four hours, Leonard Fournette went from being trashed to being the missing piece that's going to put Tom. Brady and into the it's it's essentially my Kevin White Joe put in real life. Everyone's being serious learning for that was the fourth pick in the draft. How could he be bad? Yes he can be bad because we've seen be bad. Yeah, he is. He's definitely the issue he he can help solve red zone woes because he'll always if he was on the Falcons, for example, Dan, Quinn would never have kicked field goal. because. He would just hand the ball in perpetuity. For Net at the two yard line and he gets tackled at the one. Yes. Yes. I think Leonard Fournette might be the most frustrating goal line back in the history of the NFL's. Proportion to his body type. Trent Richardson No but Trent Richardson and find the whole. He would score at the goal line, remember his his rookie, ten touchdowns in Cleveland and I think all of them came from like two yards Leonard. Fournette he. Just if you put a goal line in front of him he it's GonNa be very frustrating to watch Leonard Fournette trying to extend the ball into the goal line that says end racism and falling six inches short every single time we need now we're GonNa get to Leonard Fournette fans mad at US Leonard One of one come out. Are the bucks a super team. Yes. Their Dream Team. You think there's box of entered into dream? Team Status Right now yeah. I think I. Think someone has to say it though Xuemei Bucks No. No. On the box. some John has to be like were kind of were kind of dreamy. We're kind of a Dream Team. Who is the most likely on that team crock? Will Super Teams in the NFL if Grenell. But he's wrong. Yeah. He's been training know handlebar training. Yeah. If you could get gronk maybe like in in six weeks when Gronk when he when he flushes more guys right to get him to say, right Dream Team nobody he'd be like if you like this team super like thinking like like. Sweet I liked. GRONK because you're doing yourself I know. He was a big eye. Cream team. Let's bring back cream skulls. All right. Let's get you fire fest the week, and then we got our interviews pf t you got a quick at yes. I want to talk to you guys about our great friends over three. 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Promo Code PMT at checkout five percent off you have to be eighteen to purchase to the number three. Hi Dot Com. All right. Let's go fire fest the week. Hank, my fire fest you apparent. I'm sure you guys have dealt with this, but my my my puppy got Kennel cough for the first time. No disrespect to families No disrespect to families. I don't know how it'd be destructible. The family you said you're talking about like you've dealt with your children. This. Is your child. Correct he got Kennel cough he was supposed to go staying with. reas parents this weekend while we went on a mandatory work absence. Whether, they're not cases it goes a mandatory. Mandatory. Work Long weekend of not working. Yeah but it's not my choice. But he has Kennel. Cough is parents have dogs. So he can't go there and stay with them because he's contagious in the place we're GONNA. Stay doesn't allow dogs. So now we can't go. Did, you not give him a shots wherever you like A. So Sad Kennel Cau- Rob Schneider type very simple. Even vaccinations hang. Shots. I actually think it might have been from they have an old dog it's kind of. Your shaming no, you'd get it from other dogs and we're trying to coffees which dog had it. Do you think you had Kennel cough? No. I don't think humans can get it. They can absolutely one hundred percent can still ahead. Kennel. Cough when we adopted her because we adopted her from a shelter 'cause. Save. FUCKING HEART Do. You top it nor me, right. In a way. Okay. His Hey, fire fest last vacation in summer not a vacation navigating toward. The mandatory workouts. Medication. Yeah we went took it took him to the vet. He's also got antibiotics. He just can't be around dogs for two weeks. Okay. Does he does he eat the medicine or do you have to hide and peanut butter hide it in Yeah Cada entrance that's one thing we rose really good at. You can hide it in anything like they sell these little pocket pills or these Combo type things. You can put the pill in for a dog and Leroy will eat somehow in his mouth to elect no around all the edges and then spit the pill out. Yeah. Yep. Still does that to the cheese giving him she's figures it out is that it heck? Firefighter Festival week hang just one of them. Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean no disrespect families for me, but this is my first mandatory work absence of the summer and really since March and it's kind of Shane Mosley against some some stuffed on this weekend me too I I'm leaving Leroy alone and the new apartment for the first time. Himself there's going to be a dog sitter that comes over check in I'm going to be worried worried sick about them. I'M WANNA set up like a nanny cam or something. So I can check in on them. See if he's walking into walls I did smear extra layer peanut butter on the walls just just for safety while I'm gone I'll be around. Thanks. Be Able to swing it to you. Dogs that are listening to this show I. Actually do have an entity bear and you can see it. I can see every single room. So just so you know I'm watching up. And then my other firefighters of the week is I can't wear any different pairs of shoes ever again anymore. nope. So I've been walking on air literally with these shoes five ten and a half feeling great. They're not lifts. They're perfectly normal shoes. So find a new slant already So I put on a different pair of shoes to go running to brag the other day and I felt just I felt tiny looking inward and Last night I was on my couch and ordered three different color ways of this exact same type of shoe. Now. I guess I'm strictly the cat special seven twenty for life. Do know why Yeah I've done it for shoes I'd do it for socks have to wear hats like you if you just take genes. That works for you. No, it's the ultimate. Liberation when you find a product that you love and you're like I'm just going to buy all and never have to make a decision again in my life. Yeah and xfl combines coming up soon, I officially list myself as five ten. Five eleven although they'd probably want shorter kicker why I don't know I feel like you're grounded. Yeah. They just like shorter kickers she'd be like this guy doesn't have any delusions of grandeur. What five ten and a half five half is not exactly like dunking. Off the Chicago that's sure. So. Then what would be five eight? Five eight normal. Okay. Five, eight, hundred nine will have is short five ten. Yeah it's it's actually pretty simple if you've ever saw him saying, there's no one's. Happy that guy's tall, right? Yeah. If you've seen a meam on twitter, guys who are five nine and a half to five eleven and a half or basically the size of an aunt guys who are like five, eight, two, five, nine, that's just normal short right? I'm not pretending I'm six feet I'm saying the fact and with thirty that I'm five eleven I've feel you're gonna find shoes maybe you even more. Somebody suggested maybe I put some lift in the shoes and then I'd be. I don't want to trick anybody I. Am who I wear my the. Comfortable shoes I just like the shoes All right. My Fire Fest is get two of them. These twitter these twitter moments where they're just showing what big college football games coming up is just driving me insane and I saw last weekend and I was like Kay maybe maybe it's just a malfunction. But now they just have like Illinois verse, Ohio State, tonight I just can't stop stop. It's like when we were going through the schedule imagining what weeks we're going. To be like Lsu at Alabama all that stuff like it was like October second week in October was going to be all these great matchups just thinking about what could have been. I don't need. You don't need to rub my face on twitter. Yeah Right. Exactly and then my other fire fest is although. College football is technically back this week and there are some games. my other fire fest is it was it's mad and code seat season and. I don't know. I think I've lost? Luster. I don't feel the same was that I don't I don't know I just don't feel any new. Orleans same power is it just because nobody wants these men coach? No people want to believe me my mentions are all asking for? But yeah. I'm put a couple in this show and then once you just got a couple of he has four three. J, Q for T. G., n., B., M., K. for D.. xbox Y. P. P. R. J. Three T. R. Six Q R K J three k. six P. seven seven J. C. Seven F- Seven Z has I feel no doesn't what if you hired like a plane like a sky raiders that had the banner with the Madden Code Behind it and then had hired that person like fly around? I don't know it can be fun I. Just don't feel the same way so i. I'm not saying it's over but whatever would just take those whoever wants those take those All right, billy your fire fest is to five weeks I won was run through the woods with my dog speaking in dog ailments and these rolling around and horse chestnuts and he had an allergic reaction turns out there. Are you are you the worst dog owner? No. She we we're. We're exercising a horse chestnuts feels like one of those euphemisms balls. Anyway Horse Chestnut it's a like a regular chestnut, but it's a certain variety that you can't eat but horses and deer love. Actually Bait for hunting. You Hunt Horses. Deer. Hunt deer, but anyway so had to give them some. Benadryl. Anyway. My Second Fire Festival Week I had this on Monday. There's no way you gave them the correct dosage. I I called my my my fat. Friend wait so. You're giving the same examination that you gave the heck. Kind of okay anyway. So dude wipes, great product I've been using them. We were talking about the other day. Great for the penultimate wipe. 'cause you don't have the dryness in your the cleanest. So that my buddy's house he sometimes as dude wipes his lightbulb was out in his bathroom. So is all dark so I was like look hey. I hope this package is either dude wife's or if I'm unlucky, he uses cocoa butter wipes a lot. So hopefully, one of them I can use to wipe my white coca waterways hurting my brain. Anyway. So use cocoa butter wise for for their skin. Hydrate Anyway I wiped using it I get up leave. my asshole started burning like I put alcohol on a cut turns out disinfecting wipe This the farthest story. Yeah. Okay. Did actually being good. It sucked right whereas. Buffalo. So how'd you get rid of it? Did he have to wipe it out now you have to use a Roman swipe next and just numbs it right up. It's your friend also live in a barn. No just makes will power. Sure yet OSCE in my area we lose power lot. It make sure that when you're wiping that what your way, it's just barn, he's. Running through the woods. You live in a bar. Yeah. Your friend doesn't have power anyway just make sure what you're wiping with is only dude wipes. Good though. It hasn't recovered me on. Just got you All. In a puddle soup and pudding sitting in a gross sponsor back end you got it. That's my fire. Especially and that was a good story for Monday and. Not, the horse chest that you feel good about it. You feel like you don't feel good about what I just need to get into this weekend. Everybody tweet. emojis of peaches over September though this weekend. Yeah, you don't have to worry about if. Your Life is just stressing you out right. Let's get to our interviews I up. We have Jimmy Tae Tro- before we do that a word from our friends at Nitsa everyone knows about the risks of driving drunk you could get in a crash people get hurt or killed but let's take a moment to look at some surprising statistics almost twenty nine people in the United States die every day and alcohol impaired. 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Do not get in a car behind the wheels in-car someone who's been drinking don't even risk it not even a drink. So do it make sure you're safe make sure that you are having fun but being safe it is not worth it and thank you to Nitsa for spreading that message. Okay. Here is our friend Jimmy tetreault. ooh Okay we now welcome on recurring guests friend of the program. It is Jimmy tetreault. in-person. Good to see dude good to see you I love I love getting that recurring guest title. Your recurring guests. The first time you do an interview, we just tell people that sort of accepts them into be like now have to come on. Okay invited but now you're like legit recurring. Getting dangerously close friend of the program. I think you're full-frontal. Yes. And I was just thinking I was coming in for my my dogs callback. Brought it up. It's it's things are cooking. Yeah. Every we interviewed Sandler after a few months after we interviewed you and he's in. Oh, that's then. So it's it's a green light. There's a bidding roth. Forrest Gump is writing Boehner dogs. Yes. He actually sent a script. He's got one page so far the title page and it has his name. He wrote it. Yeah. So yeah, he's at least like a CO writer. So thank you cook it. Yeah. I. Mean congratulations you're an early adopter you now the more stars that we get involved. You. Pew by the. Demoted, well, you're falling you're falling back in the pack. Yeah. That's only because like the people that we have on more recently, we tend to over promise things. So since you're here now like I'm probably GonNa, be willing to be like, yeah you're going to be the piss hole you're going to be both balls. Boehner. Okay but yeah, guys I've been loosely attached for what is it like a year now? Yeah. Over here I've been loosely attached for over a year. You know you can't. You can't push me too far back in the path. That's true. You had people come up to you and ask you about underdogs I actually have I'm not surprised. I got so many people that came up to me after the first time we did the podcast like y'all her who's part of my take man that was awesome. Realize you guys were. Allie to yeah I mean Boehner dogs is going to happen I if I were to put money on, I would say that within five years the actual movie will be I don't know if it's GonNa be like full length or what but I would imagine i. don't doubt that the only question with Boehner dogs this point it's not a if it's a win and it's not a win it's how much money they're going. To give us up front because if they give too much, we're just gonNA blow it all. Yeah. Like they need to dangle it. They need to dangle something for us because otherwise like someone the dumbest thing someone could do is someone could just give us a big check at and be like, Hey, here you go. Do Boehner dogs would be cool and then like ten you know ten months later we just have. A flip book. Big Jimmy. Tables. Dude that's. GonNa give a shit load of money. We'll cut this is some but I I do think though that. It does happen you're on the shortlist to play one of the main characters. Okay. This is good. Yes. This really good. Also it's it's it's a great time to do animated stuff. Yeah. All you can all you can really do that's what I would say like have you have you been able to work it all over the summer like how does that I'd imagine doing zoom related comedy kind of loses its it's like flare after about a week. Did you you didn't go to my zoom comedy show Bertram comedy show. You did. Didn't get to fight. Thirteen you have a real bro Seamy valley coming out. Whenever, we air this coming out on. September fourth to timber fourth and you had to cut it short. Yeah. Are Alternate Yeah I yes. So to enjoy on his bachelor party, that's the cliff Zander is about two thousand party I have been the only work I've really been doing during this time is animated stuff because you can do that like over. So like doing animated, show an animated movie and they would send me like. You know sound recording equipment and like I would set up like a little mini studio in my closet and then get on a zoom call with director and actually get like. One of needed actual like final productions, quality sound, and the other one was just kind of like you know we're gonNA later but I've been doing some voice over stuff and we did have to pause Real Bros. I did get coded. Oh. Shit. Oh. I did. Yeah and. I was like, Hey, guys I. Don't think I can come into the edit I have covid. How was this great excuse? Yeah and you know they were like sure you have it on my guys we gotTA. There's no really getting around this I didn't have it that bad. I had super super minor symptoms like I was on a trip we went to Miami and like everyone in my group got it and like four or five people like super bad fevers and we're like the sickest they've ever been. I didn't get that bad. I had pretty minor symptoms, but I just lost my taste and smell for like a month and a half. This was very early on I had it like way before it was cool. Now. It's like it's actually become not cool. Anyway it's just like so mainstream, right? Right. Everyone's talking about it. You like covert named through their albums. And airplay they're playing like all the all the NBA Arenas now. Yeah. Like when I was. So early on like my symptoms weren't even really on Internet yet 'cause I got it like March eighth was when I found down. The lockdown hasn't even happened yet. So like I was telling my production company like you. GotTa pause like I can't go in finish the edit right now. Wait so you were wearing a mask when you came in or you are you of like the mindset that you can get it again because I feel like if I had it, I would just like fuck this. That's how I was it I like it I was like I had it I'm invincible like A coffin, my mouth I'm good. Not Actually but I don't know now I just like the more we find out the more we realized we know nothing and I don't want to be. A carrier like I don't know I'm I've always been like kind of a GERMOPHOBIC. I just washed my hands a lot and now I just feeling like everything I'm touching her like infecting and I got to like hand sanitizers. So I've just been like staying out of cities and Welcome to New York City. Movie General. You you were I. Something about your instagram and your vibe is just like I think we talked about this last time the California teen vibe. But you just cooler than I'll ever be and you did a road trip that was like essentially a Volkswagen commercial. Just in like all the the Parks living. Out of an RV. You see those people on. INSTAGRAM. Being out of an RV look cool and romantic and then I. If I were in that RV, it smells like farts and like my clothes would be everywhere. Yes. Shit. Some reason in all those influencers post that they put up. There's never any like wrinkle Taco Bell. and. I would smell horizon between every single seat. Like should you look like it was actually quite nice. I was living in. It was like a fucking pinterest board the whole thing. Yes. I'm like I'm like in this van like. Eloquent I'M GONNA fucking. Yes. Interests Commercial Race Geyser, and then the next day you went on a hike and it's like Oh and then we cooked over this little bunsen burner out. The whole thing down fucking. I can't I can't take credit for for the planning of the trip or or the aesthetic. But I. Definitely. Reap the benefits of the VIBE. It does sound like a Subaru commercial. Like one of those like knob creek whiskey ones that they drink advocating glass around a campfire the it's the growth. Version of seeing a shirt on a mannequin and being like, Oh, I want that shirt and putting on and be like Oh. Yeah I forgot I have breasts. Yeah. I watched Jimmy do it and I was like, Oh, I want that and then like wait I'm a fat slob that would like burn everything and Fart everywhere get attacked by their. Yeah, right. Yeah. I actually it. was actually like it was definitely intense to travel like you know we went to like up the California coast over to Montana and then stay there for like a week and then came down through like Jackson, hole yellowstone and did all that stuff but it went very smoothly like it's definitely intense to do it. There's a lot of like upkeep you're going around in a van. but like we we chatted a little bit like we stayed at some hotel. Okay. I wasn't like we weren't roughing it the whole time that's like when we do you have to call ahead to like certain campsites, right? Yes. Take a be like, Hey, nature can I am I allowed to sleep there on the thirtieth of August? Set for Shit. Yeah. There's like an APP that we've found that like let you know cool campsites. In the area so you can like it's almost like airbnb campsites are not worried about the super volcano, a allstone. Now. Really very worried. Are you? Well, that's like twenty twenty has been the year of like all the fear porn online where they. They keep playing the hits where they're like okay. There's murder Hornets centre-back. There's like all the bees are dying global warming is hitting again. Pretty soon, they're going to break out the old summer of the shark increase in shark attacks and The super volcanoes still there. was actually a shark attack at the beach. I, was at like two weeks ago. saw this dolphin super close to shore. And we're looking at it like Dan? That dolphins really close, and then all of a sudden we get like an hour later like that dolphin that you saw got eaten by a shark in front of a bunch of kids. There was blood everywhere. They. Have you. Probably in Dolphin. Hard knocks life bees though I don't know if you saw my my instincts post. Yes. But for a while for almost all of two thousand, nineteen, I, housed probably the largest depopulation of the Mississippi was that intentional or were you were you harvesting honey I wanted to that was the goal. I found out about this thing. Chris. Hemsworth actually posted a photo this flow high thing that can like. He had like honey on tap. Boring. What's the most board? A rich person can be? Low Chart what does it call. Flow high so high, you put your booze in this box and then the honey filters down into jars and that was the goal and. So, everyone's like you've got to get rid of this behind. It was at the time it was like this big and everyone's like that's so fucking big. You have to get rid of this and I was like we the be we need the bees. We're doing a good thing, right I'm not getting rid of the beehive. And then like a huge chunk fell and everyone's like now, you have to get rid of it. But like you know I was I was just went out there with a spoon and was like scraping the honey off. Sara fuse to get rid of it. They built it back. It ended up being like this big. Like no joke. It got so big. The whole thing fell off the branch and it was probably like. Eighty pounds of high on the ground that's like a metaphor. So you know the bees there were great, but they got too big for their own good destroyed themselves. So sweet. So the I thought fall and then what about it? What did you wouldn't end up happening? So it was like the the day fell was the day I started my camper van trip so Called me like dude fell do. Off a frantic, I can't even understand a word you saying like on my couch parked in the man what's going on? This piece everywhere. I couldn't understand what you're saying my camping. So I didn't even get back for like two weeks and he hadn't touched it. Obviously, it was stolen the ground. And it was just this heap of of beehive and there's still like you know there's still a sizable high up there in the tree like that big I don't think the Queen. So life goes on life goes on Nice but I called like you know my local hype. Beekeepers or whatever, and I was like. How do I translate this thing I can I can get on. TAP. And she's like, oh, you shouldn't eat. African is. The bees are like you don't know their mating across meeting and you don't want to know what you did was did it was delicious Asked you for the address and now she's GonNa. Show up harvest. I don't think that there's a profession America that gets more related free advice calls than beekeepers. Billy legacy either your backyard you just. I'm going to call a beekeeper. You, you WanNa tell Jimmy about African. is how I mean you just looks. Africa's night is honeybees are actually real problem because they're invasive and they sting more in way more aggressive and they've actually been a huge problem for B. Expert. You guys had a local. Talk. He's GonNa farm. He's got. He's got like every animal out there show. Last time. Disregard. Everything I say, no, he actually reads just wikipedia and then makes up half the facts. So what he just said very well could be false like actually most likely is false I would actually think that there would be tastier though because they're so aggressive about defending. The actually escaped from a lab in Brazil they're trying to. Swear he's made no this. This is actually true. They escaped from a labs. Yeah it's a problem they spread. God huge issue. Backyard. Line of man and the wasp. Brazilian honeybee they've got big ashes ski, prima? Lab. Oh man see the best part about bill is you just have someone around who you just ask questions to. He says it with enough confidence it doesn't really matter what he says, right? Like Okay That makes sense that's really just a secret to life in general. Last time we saw you on the big screen was actually not on a big screen because it was on a home release of King of Staten Island, right within Kennedy it was yeah which I really enjoy it I thought it was really good movie very we had bill Burr on here. There's a lot of Oscar buzz around bill Burr's performance in that movie actually. Yeah. I. Mean I thought Hilden. Yes. From us from us but I thought it was really good at it. So I'll start off by asking you same question. I asked him did you get a kiss Mercer Tomi? I. Did Not That would have been probably pretty weird. For one of the random firefighters yeah firehouse Yup. But Bill Burr was is just the coolest. Z. coolest guy ever. Does not need to be that cool like he could still be as cool as years by being much less cool. You know what I mean. There's an accent I agree like he's like one of those you stand up comics at like he could be a day and still be super cool. I Love People I. Love You. You're the man right but he Actually, like Super Super. Super Nice and like just just to bet did you get did you get as much screen time and you thought you were going to get you I know you have to like you want to be an agenda appetite movie again? It was actually good that they cut you. You should say that. Yeah. I thought it might be a little a little I didn't really know what I work though we'll still I'm like good buddies with Pete. And So I kind of I don't usually sign up for something without really knowing what I'm getting into. But Pete was like Yo you got to be in my movie and I was like Yeah hundred percent your movie Jet Apostolic Thousand Percent I'm doing it. So I didn't even really like read a script or anything we just Kinda. showed up and. You know. Like they had a script, I think. But I I, didn't really get a script just like like handed you the mop. Go the background of the shot right right yeah. But Yeah I came out here for like firefighter training. And like we did like a full day of like fire drills and staff like we're in the gear, like you know crawling on the floor with one foot on the wall like putting out fires and stuff. And Yeah I saw a movie I was like, did we need to do? Now did you do you? How does it work? Do you get paid? You get paid beforehand? It doesn't matter how much you're in it. You WanNa be in it more but stopped like ultimately it's if they play, you're kinda getting paid for your time right right long as your week by week or like there's I mean there's a locked in rate before you can get out there but I was just happy to be just like shut up towns like, yeah joy all. Right. Here's here's a good way to think about it. So you were in that movie with a lot of like superstar legends of the game, Comedians and actors right and like the cast. Like a WHO's who right now you are very much like up and coming actor who's next in line to be in that WHO's who select in the in the movie you played a firefighter that was an up and comer coming onto the forest learning from the big dogs and you're next up it was just allegory for your career. Yeah. So it's really deep if you think about it that way and. That was very nice of you. Yeah. I'll do it either way how much longer can you be considered up and coming before? We're just like this guy's never coming. I don't know I. Think I don't think I have that much longer. You more. Years. Coming just you know. That's it. No I think you're up. You're what? Twenty eight, twenty, eight you have until at least thirty three and then it's like, okay. What are your coming out your wash? Yes. Five years you've got I think you're you think you'll ever be like like a big time movie maybe not. Like the main role but like the awesome sidekick that everyone really loves yeah, I think it will i. mean everything everything is just taking a long time right now and nothing has happened in my career overnight everything has been like such A. Such a process like every time I've thought. Would really. Be Big even if it has been big Mike's Propel me super far. It's like it just Kinda like just us just been a slow process and I'm just kind of accepted that everything's GonNa take time. And just try not to get discouraged with the process just enjoy the process as much as possible and when you do get frustrated just nice. Turnaround look and see how far you've come. Put your head down and just keep going does get frustrating at all and I would imagine it does but like real roses seamy valley is So fucking funny like it's one of the funniest things I've watched and I've watched them like, why isn't this a TV show like who's making the decisions where they're not like this is fucking genius. Does that give frustrating? You're like, Hey, guys like I mean you can't say, Hey, guys, this is genius but I can. It's genius while thank you. I mean the way that all happened is like it's funny real growth never like a big priority of mine at the time we sold it. It was just Kinda like I was trying to sell something else and we just like. You know I I had already like financed it and we made it for my youtube channel. So it was like it was done and all we needed to do to sell it with like just show facebook and they're like, yeah, we want that right? So like I didn't really put too much. Time intellect deciding where it was gonna live and everything it was just like Oh facebook wants to make this. Awesome. Let's make it. So I mean like. I'm happy that we have a place to just make it in and put it up and it's free I watched something like that and I'm like how is this not a hit across the board when you see other things you're like this is not that funny I watched real rose I laugh the entire time. Yeah. So it would be on TV though it doesn't have to be a huge like I think the way that turned out ended up being like a massive. Massive success and the reality is like network executives for the most part are going to look to these other places like facebook or youtube until they have kids that reached the age where their kids can tell them what to watch and what's right, and at that point they'll reach out and then do I really want to be on TV like we had a TV show for a day we left because we didn't feel like that was are seen so we decided if You just said. Nothing else a middle fingers in the air coming back to the PODCAST. But I think like with the different platforms you've been on, you don't need like you don't need to be on NBC. Yeah I don't really want like to your point like I don't really want be. It's not like I don't measure the success of the show by like be like where it lives. Yeah. You Know I. The show is successful. It lives on facebook people. Love it. You know it's a hit rate is But. Yeah, it's like these people associate like legitimacy so much with like where it is and like it being on a network platform I, don't think it would belong on network plan and right now, I, just want to be on like many platforms as possible. I, just want more people to see it. It's that funny that's my thing and I'm sure there's a lot of people who do see it on facebook, but it's like Danny frustrating part where it's like you see other shows less funny shows get promotion and you're like wing. This show is is way funnier why aren't more you know? Yeah I mean it's it's no red table talks but it's pretty good. I like the memes. I like the Bro Strap not having good time. He just applies to every my favorite one. You've probably seen this Jason I'm not having a good time. Bro, and the caption of it is Poland during World War Two. You are selling like that is you are becoming a cult classic in the world. There's a Lotta Lotta means I also appreciate I've been seeing a lot of sports programs like tweeting out like straight up not having a good time means. And like also, the thing I like the most is I've been seeing I've been getting tweeted a lot of videos like. Like a college baseball player like slide into second and then pop up and do the. Move and I love that yeah. I want that to NFL celebration get that going sure I'm sure. George. Kill would do something like, Oh, you seem like a real big Simi Valley Fan. He is a fan of the real gross. Yeah. Yeah. Saw that coming we love her too. Yeah. Yeah. Bortles our opinion he could do that. Yeah. Last time we had on, you did you broke it down really nice for us the difference between like it was a kickback. Party hardy. was, that one of you forget what all the different ones were. Can you just break down the difference between various types of rose in southern California because as far as in be concerned there's like there's one type of Bro we're very myopic and how we how we're just afraid of all of them but I'm sure there like different. There's nuances right from like Simi Valley Huntington Beach to Redondo beach or whatever yeah I mean there's there's Tons of different the roads and railroads seeing valley are kind of like the deep valley browse like they're the ones with the the Oakley Sunglasses and the tank tops and they all have. Boats, they all have they all have boats and jet skis that are attached to their trucks. So. That's like one specific kind of today ever get mad at you like has anyone ever been like dude that's fucked up honestly I thought that would happen but it Kinda hasn't. Yeah No I. Haven't gotten any any hate from those. Those Bro. Even like To have representation. Your zander showing there. Like, look look that can be you on TV you this. Right. Okay. So that's the that's the valley Bros., and then you know you got like the the surfer Bros. like Malibu Boroughs they're like you know the More can. skinnier soft lawn hair soft I. I'M NOT GONNA say. Less. Might say saw. More more. Pretty. Okay. Okay what else nor cal? Nor cow is another type Bro nor cow there's some crossover between the northbound Seib I. Think. Cal Star is that like Bakersfield now Bakersfield is pretty so yeah. Okay. Where where would be the cutoff line? maybe like San Jose. Okay. All right. Okay. What about what about like inland Bros. like? Seaney Bros. are kind of in Lebron are. Yeah. Because I'm thinking of like, how would you classify basically desert right like Simi Valley is very try place. Yeah it is I mean it just like deep valley. So it's not that far from the beach. Yeah. But there's also a lake out there. So I, was just I remember driving through there and was like this looks like every suburb that I've ever lived in my entire life. Right there what about like the Diaz brothers? Where are they from two Oh nine? Where's that? who were the they're Nate Diaz the UFC fighters. Okay. Dallas Brayden is from two nine. Where's the where they from? Tunein, area code that would be I can't remember where there's doctrines modesto. Stockton. That's up. That's up north without circle back to the name. Brayden. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That's an all through game once well, no hitter but yeah, who is he? He works with us he used to pitch for the as flamed out but did throw a perfect game. Wow. Dallas braided a solid name. He's he's a Calabro. He's got the CALABRO. He's like he's got I. Don't know where Stockton is but he's that's the not as like they're intimidated intimidating their own Reich I? Love a good full name like a good. You know just a name that you and you're like, wow, that's just flow. Nicely. It you a picture before you even meet them and you probably get exact pitcher correctly. Absolutely. Absolutely. I was. I was looking through your filmography before you came here and I saw. You last time you did this you pulled up my stats from like high we talk. And you know. What was at one point six? Games yeah. Those little less than skip. Bayless. Bad. That one tournament that you went off. I appreciate you remembering. Yes. bawled out that tournament. Yeah. I. Mean you know as I said last time you know I. Don't think all the games were recorded. One point seven points per game I'm sorry point one assists per game and then one point two about. But if you look, you may notice only like two games recorded it or maybe three. Yeah ten. I don't even think there's a mean thing to say, but you also seem like the kid who was way taller than everyone when he was twelve and stop growing no. Okay all short the hot on. Yeah. Yeah. So you like Alpha energy where you're like, Oh that kid was a boss when he was like twelve. Offer grew at ever get no five. I had a big gap in my teeth and In Sophomore year, I had like the Bieber swoosh embraces. So I, don't know if it was Alpha energy coming out of me Oh. There's some good pictures of here. So they've got you on Max preps somehow somebody uploaded yourself to Max perhaps. You've got some fucking chemicals back in high school kangols. Yeah. At least one picture look. There's no ankle there I mean. Those just the cavs. Yeah. You'll get off the veterans because you're. You're an La guy who went to Arizona, which I figure like Holy Shit that guy has had assured off for like half his life and I take my shirt off never. Looking Pretty Jack. I'm wearing a black shirt today. So thank you. Well, it takes. Yeah. But you also learn go to Arizona. You just basically pop your shirt off right when you get off the plane you're like all right let's party for the next four you. Ask Not wrong you're wrong you're not wrong about I Know Sandler does that too right Sandler's always taking shirt off because he's low key Jessica what he wears like all the big around his friends because that way when he takes his shirt off around like Holy Fuck Sandler's. So like it's a good like undersell over deliver technology, you don't WanNa be to Jack like. To Jack like there's some people that take their shirt off and I'm like dude, if I was that Jack would be uncomfortable. It's a problem making my shirt off I would people would be like, okay, calm the fuck down it was soccer guy hot. It tells you guys have like the per like the body that every every chick wants now soccer guys they love to take their shirts right? Because they're not jacked but they're like have a six pack. You know what? I don't like when soccer guys rip their shirts off like they score a goal right? They ripped their shirt off sure you're happy ripped off whatever but when they adjust their like their waistline and pull it down a little bit. Different show. It's like come on. Yeah, the well I think they shave before the games to their like their hairless or maybe just from playing soccer, you just develop a lack of hair on your body. But I was GonNa say I saw that you were in a movie called how to have sex on a plane. Was that about that my IMDB, there's some of my youtube videos have been. HAVE BEEN UPLOADED TO. Either like someone that was in, it wanted to put it on IMDB or. That's just a youtube sketch that I did actually. On your. Okay Yeah. Yeah. Your Characters League. Guy. Yeah I didn't do that I actually tried to get it taken off because. Are, we can get that figured out for you. It's harder than you think really. I am DB's forever, but that would be. My most viewed Youtube video how? Do you know how many it has. My guess is a last I checked it was like fifty million or something. So it'd be bad if someone put like lead Scrotum Boehner Docks, twenty twenty, two on your in production it isn't production right I'll be out that lead scrotum you. Work with that character name a little bit fucks yeah. You have like sixty million views on this. Video was actually a real idea that I had have sex on the plane. Yeah. I. Pitched to my ex girlfriend. Pichit. A meeting with. A half joking pitch. But I was like you know talking about joining the Mile High Club and I'm like the move is like everyone thinks like you sneak to the bathroom and you like sneak but it's like it's so obvious you both walk into the bathroom everyone knows it's going right so I'm like you gotTa Facon argument. You start screaming at each other, but you're embarrassed you want to have a screaming argument front of everyone is playing. So you're like, let's go finish the screaming argument in the bathroom. So You keep screaming in the bathroom pretending you're arguing but little do they know you're actually having sex, but you just need to keep screaming at each other the whole time And then you finally finished argument and you walk out, but it's very smart. Sorry about that everybody. Had to work that out. So. Anytime. It's occurred to me like maybe you could join the mile high. Club. I've always just thought like going back to seat everyone will stare at you and then like what happens in the sky a flight attendant like arrest you can they come up like you need come with me because I would crack like that I think any guy would but it wouldn't be from the flight attendants saying like I think you're having sex in the bathroom tell me if all they would have to say it would be like. Leading the bathroom is awesome and I'd be like, yeah, it was Gotcha. That's that's the easiest way. Yes. All right. So Jimmy you are diehard Laker fan yeah. If, the Lakers win this year where you agree that doesn't count right. Okay, WHOA WHOA Whoa, Whoa I mean. We all agree. Counts No. Only of Lebron loses what doesn't count about? It's a bubble. It's like a Mickey Mouse situation and there's no way fans. Yeah. So you're saying because there's no fans doesn't actually counselor and what the NFL is not going to count. Those different. WII NFL. Baseball. Depends on who World Series Game. Neutral location. Anchorage Point. Also they're gonNA be playing in the real stadiums they're not playing like Walt, Disneyworld. So the NBA they're playing like in front of me characters basically. I don't know I. Think it definitely still count is Lebron favorite Laker of all time. Absolutely not I mean, oh, Kobe's my favorite Laker of all time. He will never that will never change What if Lebron wins seven titles in a row? I will be very thankful of Lebron for doing that for. Eight titles in a row Caruso. I. I hope he does and I would I would really appreciate them doing that for Kobe's program it becomes crusoe city colleagues Caruso. To White Howard wins ten in a row. Man I. You know. You have the same. Dwight I have mixed feelings about Dwight Howard. I'm happy he's on the team doing well in his role, but it's hard to forgive him for. His complete dud of a season right back when back when we COULDA GOT Chris Paul and Dwight Howard and just you know the whole thing brings up some bad memories which are you're obviously rams not chargers, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But I mean, the clippers are obviously I know when and WHO's actually from La possibly could care about the clippers. Are you worried if you are a clippers fan you're clearly not from La Ooh, do I liked that what they should move San Diego what about my love for them to move to San Diego? So you hate the clippers I am out I never cared about the clippers like it was always just like sure you guys can. You guys can be here? It's fine it's like We can you know you can share whatever right and then the second they get a little bit good. It's just from all these clippers fans coming out of the woodwork just they just WanNa yet. They WanNA talk about how they're the team of La an like up. We let you be here just just be grateful right go to San Diego. Take the chargers with you to. Just get out of here. So if the beat the Lakers this year, are you then saying it doesn't count. I wouldn't say doesn't count I would be I would just. Pretend it doesn't count. That would be a tough one. I would make Lebron like the biggest disappointment of all Lakers of all time women. If he doesn't win any titles and he loses against your. Air. Arrival if that would be, that would be tough. Yeah. Takeaways purple and gold. Lebron you know he needs. He needs to bring the title home this year would you say it's been a disappointment thus far? Now. I wouldn't title yet. Second to make the playoffs, I didn't even. Share trails teammates. Yeah. Lonzo ball was going to be a Laker for light on bald we got. We were the best team in the league this year we're going to. Hopefully knock on wood. When that championship really count it counts though it does now like you won't put up a banner. A banner. What do you mean abandoning won't put a banner up we won the Blah Blah. Who Cares I mean? Lebron, unless. He. Lose. The competition is still good out there. It's not like these players are like playing like they're in a bubble. Some of them are yeah I would say like to the buck stink. The sons have played like they're in a bubble because they don't play well outside we just wanted to discredit Lebron in anyway. Possible. So there's Guys. Hate, Lebron. Yeah. I just. The thing I hated Lebron Yeah I hated him in when he went to the heat and he did the whole not one not two not three and claimed he was GonNa win like nine championships when you fuck you Lebron, I'm taking my talents to my I was like fuck that. I didn't like them at all and then he went back to Cleveland. And I I found it too hard to hate on him. Just for what he did when he was like twenty six. So I, forgive him for his now that. Now, you're like I like the whole time he was on the on the cavs when he went back to Cleveland and I was like I, respect you for doing that he brought a championship home to his hometown I was like very respectable. I can't I can't hate on you anymore. You're Miami days are behind you and now he's on the late. Bell Lake. We'll we welcome. You were seeing into the future and you're like wait he's going to be a free agent two years. He's probably GONNA come to la I will pre forgive him so that when he comes to La I won't have to change mind all of a sudden I completely. I got to a point where it wasn't everyone was saying like Lebron might calm and I was just like I don't want to expect anything every this happens like there's just so many rumors of people coming and he's just it never happened. So when it did happen I was just you know. I'm of the Mindset Lebron. James is the best basketball player of all time, but he's all show. So fun to watch like watching fuck up all the time like fuck up the small little things like when for example, he's always reading a book and he's always on the first page of the book like meaning he probably doesn't actually sit down and read. Through all these things he just likes being photographed holding a book in his hands all the things we're like he's showing up to the game holding a glass of wine like walking underneath the tunnel. So it's cameras on all that stuff is fucking hilarious to make fun for, and he gives people a lot of material but I think he the best all. I do night who do you think is the best Jordan it's not even close ninety. Four four, Jordan one shack to Anthony Davis Story. WHOA coming with. This is I mean the Laker dancing thing. I. Actually when when win, Kobe passed away and I had the night before had been talking about Lebron was my number one liquor full-time. I remember I. Texted you like a week later and that was the first I was like Oh shit you like that's not funny. I mean dude. Honestly, it sounds kind of crazy but like. I mean luckily enough I haven't had a close family member pass away. So like Kobe's death was the hardest death has ever hit me by far and like. I cried for weeks like like I just was I've never been so sad I just didn't think it was I was capable of being outside and. There's you know that song? Stay Scheming. When it's like bitchy wasn't women shooting in the gym Yup. The drops Kobe's name and not in that part and I I was just like this was like a month after and I'm like in my car just like. VIBE and I was like having a great day and pants into the song and I said online and I just kind of sat there for a second. And then just came over me start crying. In the car by myself I went from just like, yeah and just crying, and then I just started cracking up at how ridiculous that must've. Look. Cry Sports. Sedan is sixty seconds. They would have been funny losing. LOSING DANCED CRIED Thirty seconds. That's a hell of a day though as Jimmy V. would say, right you can dance. And Laugh and the same day that's a hell of a day. How did you know I came I came right after I mean I could tell you're up and coming that's. Just. Describe your body being so confused, it was just like expelling liquids from. Every. Nut Shit. Oh. All right. So Jimmy Got September fourth real Bros. of Seamy valley out Yeah I had my last question. It is beyond question me and he's dot com slash pm t to get fifteen percent off your first purchase. My question is actually not a question is just billy just take the MIC and start talking to Jimmy. He's your easier idol. I'm a budding a up and coming as being myself I impress be right off the bat this this crash and burn bill he's going to try to sound very smart, but he instead does. Not. Say. Pianist. Anyway huge fan of the show I was actually me and my buddies were real rose Simi Valley for Halloween. That was. Semi face. Way. Yeah, it was actually hilarious. Actually. So Dunkin out actually look like a good. Dunkin but my buddy looked really good as Zale picture. Picture. Let's go black tank top. This is the guy. You know he's your he's your idol I. Bro. I think I'd be a great rancho. Bro If you ever extra or different valleys, you'll. All the Rancho. You know I don't want give too much away but the Rancho Bros. have kind of expanded and. Yeah. Some of them went to del Vista. Yes some of the Rancho. Rain Delve into now repping delving pretty hard. To grow. Okay. Billy's real voice. No this. I was going to put on a fake voice to pretend no no. Okay. Okay. I'm putting on a fake voice I always thought it'd be funny if I like I already fucked this up but like if I had Just gotten really good at a British accent. Yeah, and then. And then when I did like talk shows and stuff like podcasts that came on British guy and everyone black he's British fucks me like when you see Adele talk and it's like she's got the most powerful voice in the world. Thank you very much. Thank you. For not being album after watching the wire and then you're like what he's British. Always these people and they all have British accents all the best actors. Wow. Who's He got from Wales? Sean Connery now. Wait Billy go back to what you're saying you you WANNA be a extra I. Think I could fit I. Think what you squat and bench I, bench, three, hundred pounds and squat like. Hundred. Three hundred. Four fifteen or five times. By okay. Tell them about the car that you wanted to buy on. I. I found this like super souped up Humvee like, but it's Kinda humby book. I really think I. could play a role here. It's Team. Also. Also had a truck and it call it. Kemoko. Legal. Really. Definitely wants. Like this reality show in actual reality. Path on the season four. Surf I mean season three has already been. Already. Been Shot Icing. Billy could be a real bro of Silicon Valley and he can be like I don't know like a cousin. He's trying to pitch the pitcher up, tell them about your happily. Oh, this this APP idea where it's like ways for going out. So you know how ways is like crowd. You crowd source information on. I had a similarity. Everybody's been in a crowded bar. 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Yeah So experts at fat is like a family man with kids and stuff billy gave us six questions and they're all along the lines of here's number five American vandal was sick. That was his question and then Blue Mountain state was like Blue Mountain states cast he tried to. Write US US lofty language to write. The exact same question Blue Mountain states casts has been notoriously close in Titan throughout how did you work into this dynamic as an outside in the filming also an extremely fitting addition any stories from the set? That's just phillies way of saying it was blue mountain state was sick, right so Question Mark. I definitely have some stories from the set. Yeah. I don't know I. Don't know if now's a good time but Yeah I mean it was it was very eventful North Carolina the whole time like I said it was it was probably pretty similar to what you'd expect. Yeah from Thad but mostly from the in detail explained to billy how sick it was so Go FREAKING sector. Quick, question. Twenty two jump street or blue. Mountain state set. Man. Win You say. I would say I mean I I was more I had more fun. I learned a lot more on the twenty two jump street that and I got to work with like. You know. Phil Lord and Chris Miller who just you know? Are like the biggest. Jonah Hill and like you know people that are like. On I've really looked up to for a long time Blue Monster Fun, but jumps she was just like A. I mean, I was just an amazing experience. I think you mazing role as rooster. Was Awesome. Okay Thank you, Billy. Does wonderful I don't even know if I can if I can anything stronger than just. Sitting behind every time you say something. You're sick. I JUST WANNA. Say it was Kinda fucked up that you didn't do that. Gal. Gadoe thing where you did the the montage of. Everybody was getting sick with coronavirus. Dude I saw you know it's just like Oh. Man This is bad. Really bad dishes back really. Yeah. It was almost so bad I thought they were joking like this is funny, right? But they weren't way but that didn't that didn't cure well for a little bit I think none of them. Got It. Yeah. That's probably why you got it because you. Offer. Post a video did you post anything on instagram about like my heart's my thoughts go out to all the victims I I don't think I. Don't know if I did no, but I did have it. So all the people that think it's fake it is it is real hair mask. You tweet that every day on twitter I have to yeah. Was it a? Was it sick to take shots vodka and Tequila afterwards not having any taste whatsoever can just rip everything that was. It was it sucked not having smell smelling taste. It's just it was just annoying like it was just like. It's really just a bomber. You know like I could taste stuff, but it was like couldn't. Really. Get the intricacies. Of taste and smell. Yeah. They'll slim jims just didn't snap the same way didn't faulk All right. Well, Jimmy this has been awesome man. Thank you for coming by coarsely what Oh you got the picture. Let's see. Let's see bill. He's got a picture of him is real. For Halloween of that starstruck, he's ever been and we've had you know. Eras Yo. Like two days ago Jim Florentines coming tomorrow. He's pretty pumped about that. Yeah we're we're coming back hot with the the Bachelor Party I'm plump for the batch. Capo. Is supposed to be one episode it ended up being so long got split into two. So how many episodes we got left for four episodes supposed to be three episodes we got to Kabo episodes and wedding I soon, and then we got actually two and a half episodes Kabo like a lot of episode ten is still in Kabul and they get back. They got the rehearsal dinner. Nice Shit goes down and then you know episode Eleven Mimea not be the wedding. Okay. September fourth get excited fourth Jimmy thank you so much. Appreciate man thanks for having me dance. 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He just throws bombs down the field. I mean I just we worked hard in the off-season we. GotTa. Guys at throats you now. So it's it's always a good thing to get the ball in their hands. You realize though like when when teams post these videos on twitter of their quarterback song spirals and slow motion how sweet it looks are you thinking about that when you're practicing I know how sweet it looks but it's not a thing I think about you know. I'm not thinking you know Shit Ellen wasn't spiraling too great. So. I know that they're not gonNA put it on social media though it's GonNa be it's GonNa be the good throws, right? That's true. Yeah. The rate that no, we choose to believe that that's what all your passes look like crack perfect spiral I'm with you there seventy, five K. Is Hard to intercept and practice. Hail. Yeah if you WANNA broke finger dislocated Bangor Yeah you want. But I'm just GONNA KNOCK OUT I'M NOT GONNA I'm, not, wasting my time. I did not gonNA miss a game trying to intercept the ball practice I saw the other day he threw bomb over you. They called you out like all the reporters that were watching their like yet josh. To, make a bomb to John. Brown. Office. Is. So you know how to Time to tell you down. Doesn't matter a false. So yeah, they did not include the fact that it was a false start on that. Did you all start? Yeah, I did. Know you lying now. TRAE so you were we're good friends I'M GONNA. Say We're good friends with coach. Oh. You played for him for half a season. Are you guys saying in the same room? No, you're not. This. Yeah. So coach, Oh what was it like to play for him and do you have any great stories because we love him so so much? It. Was Great man and he bought we needed we needed to change ain't. Deputy Molly. A team got stagnant 'cause 'cause miles had been therefore. Twelve thirteen years and it was the same message and we had now we have young team and those guys needed some revamp and he brought the energy and this guy's loved to pay for. May's compete coach miles of west coast to because. Is the complete players coach I mean he's takes his players. He takes what what they say to heart in a he. He plays man even though if you tell them, you saw something like that. He just give you give you the reason to to to walk from. So I mean he changed check authors and stuff like that. So he was a drill playful of man I really enjoyed for this eight weeks I had well, I, learned I I have to mention I went to the University of Wisconsin and We don't get a lot of big time winds, but Wisconsin actually was part of the reason why coach I got the job because you got Bart Houston in Lambo can you believe that you Austin Bart Houston? No. Actually Wisconsin was very good at their year there I. Think they got him to light number three in conscious of very good. But we were expecting to to to win and We did not speak to go up there and lose but. It was a tough game really good and we they really shocked beyond they doctors they were able to run with us in their defense was really good. For a athletes on the field they had great. Great Great Group that you I'm going to just take what you just said and just say big ten speed maybe there you're speaking of Wisconsin Yeah I mean. Coach Doug is GonNa turn it down I'm still confused by the whole ordeal. No I'M GONNA I'm GONNA come back. So Josh I appreciate because you always been your day one writer Daikai with coach Dogs I've always felt bad. When you and and Jared Goff would be like How how see anything out there like Are you really this bad at the game but you guys stuck with me he is GonNa come back eventually at some point when everyone expects it. Trays like what the Hell's going on coach it's made up made a video game coach did I started playing ncw fourteen when the pandemic was going on and there were no sports on. So I would just go online every night and play in a boundary to watch in Josh washing be like dude. Like I'm trusting you. You're not very good at this game and I figured it out eventually he did yeah and you did win a title with Lsu right wanted. National. Yes trae where you down in New Orleans for the national team. That's that's how I got over the playoff loss. there. You IOS Dolly how I got it was such such a fun time. Now that did you cry when they won No I did, but I celebrated light light like I want because those guys got for for all of the guys that came before bit no special twenty eleven eighteen loss last time the national championship was in new. Orleans. So all those aspects we had a great great celebration lockable. I notice you didn't hand out any money like Odell. So are you are even a real tiger? Time. But I don't have the money to pass. You give money from Josh. No Yo. No. True enough here. Come come here soon enough. There we go. There we go. So we talk we can put it to bed though that Lsu is now officially DB right not Texas. Hold up elephant debut. Got A lot of DVD's came up with if you just look as of late man and how how it's not just your, we're putting them out in the pros where actually have guys that perform well in pro. So that's the thing. Yeah. Yeah Josh. I want to talk to you real quick about a kind of back and forth that's been brewing. It's been bubbling for the last year and a half almost two years and that's the impending throw off between yourself and Patrick Mahomes to see who can who can care the ball but further in the air. I noticed on the schedule that Kansas City is coming up to buffalo on October fifteenth. Thursday. Night game. I was thinking maybe that week we travel up there. Maybe host to throw off I don't know what your schedule's like that week and then the winner gets Patrick Mahomes Contract That I was talking to the guys you know. Winner gets to. Switch. Like winner no matter who wins we switch. Found okay. With that as long as he won the competition but I'd be be okay losing that Wa-. So you'd be okay losing let's say he went out there. He throws the ball seventy, six yards you would tank you would throw sixty five yards and you'd have to suffer the wrath of that for the rest of your career as being the Beta to his Alpha and you're only consolation prize would be five, hundred, million dollars you could sleep with that maybe I don't know. Off To ponder over that that I have here pretty soon. So Keep thinking about it. Okay. Football. Trae how far do you think is your Lisa slightly unbiased Josh obviously can tell us how far how far do you think Josh can actually throw football? Warmed up from the one yard line. Yell. He can go he can go aid. Over over eight I think he can cost a gonNA. Give Him between seventy five is certainly not I think he thought I was. Going to back I, think I think explicit five. What do you think Josh? It's right around eighty mark I. Go with I think the other day was Down Travel Pretty Far Andrei are you thinking? Yeah there you go. Are. You. thinking. ENDED UP? Again. What he did, he did he take the top off the defensive thrown over you guys. That's the play was talking about when child guys earlier I thought that I had session as I was looking at, it s the ball traveling get farther down the field I just notice it was like going over my head so But I'm running at top speed. I feel like my game up on the plano because it was a false. I was trying to catch hours trying to catch back up backtracked checked on that one trip. Strange trying to catch the ball. Don't get hurt. Don't know soft tissue injuries early in the season Josh, she thinks that this is the year that you're going to be able to throw it out of New Era Stadium or new airfield because. What is it now name a name. The name TV. Barstool. Ball barstool stadium. Anyway go the academy. So, how'd that get started trait I know that you always talk about trae? White Goalie Academy that's how you introduce yourself on Sunday night football, right? What is that? Yeah. I mean, it's A. kind of joke joked around we was at a actually sabres game and had a camp from the team. They were feminism and I think that disable go to something and I was like whoever to go us. To do bear he, he should come down to Trade Wide Goldie Academy and Louisiana for some lessons he'll. HE'LL BE A. Hell of a golden. Stuck with economist stuck around in the pool is. In the team wanted to do some some Piero. It's hats and stuff like that. So in it actually was sampling actually sevens theater so I'm pretty. Healthy this student on on his on a normal day. I love it I. So I'm happy we have both you here because we'll start with you josh. Then we'll go to trade but no, if there are no fans at all in the NFL season. I would have to think it helps the offense more than the defense right? Like have you thought about how it's GonNa work when you have no fans and you're trying to run an offense Josh. Yeah I mean when you when you go away, you go into a hostile environment it kinda changes everything The verb is this your able to use it the line of scrimmage downs of so much tougher because you get screaming in play clocks running down, you can't make adjustment super late you gotta go in on the silent count but now no fans are gonna be able to say everything at the line Kinda take your time. So it's definite vantage for the offense but even at home now our defense can talk they can hear what the offense. Hussein. They make their as they go along the game because the defense at home kind of deal with the same thing that we deal with on the road. Interesting. So trae, are you are you noticing or will you do you think it's going to you guys in the long long term this year being able to talk more or is it just another thing that's going to hurt defenses in the NFL where you guys are I feel like I cry has a has a huge factory. For the Home Games. And disrupting the opposing quarterback so I feel like. No matter what is already tough enough guard these guys open space in the League, and then you take out the fact that those can they. They could be able to communicate much more on third house, which is the most important down on A. Doing, doing drive things don't be definitely it's a tough deal for us to deal with this year as far as Hong Games to what about what about adrenaline are you worried about that at all trae like getting pumped up for a game Nah not running out of the kind of I get pumped up just to go compete man. I. My whole thing is I don't want to be embarrassed on the future. So a I'm a be pumped up pretty much every every every Sunday I operated go you had Josh. I'll tell you this is not going to see really love the game when it comes in not having the cameras around and the fans around and see who really going to be out there really play hard for serious stem. Yeah. Could be like going to be a lot easier to just quit at halftime and drive home in a season where. You. Go see that's why I want to come. True I saw I saw your instagram video that you did shady where he did an impression of Von. Impersonation. I want here. It's so funny. So it's what you want to hear about. I just do like which part. The whole thing started at halftime starting. So I mean, he had just made a Acoustic third-down stop by thirty four on. Thank you. Stop these Jovi hit the received Fisa you know in the crowd pumped up. So no fans going on all and then he just sit down next to me like he's like third down the office on the field. 'cause usually had his take cook all the way up here like he taped his wrist auditors able so he gets to take on. Yeah, you're I think Nah. Is My. Mouth go room. So I looked at Mike. What you mean like this show is lay unnoticed last year. But you know this is my last day. No more man. He said Yeah Man Y'all got I'm doing coach I I can't I'm not going. So you just. Take. Marriage. I. Come halftime he went up to he went up to the. To the address locker room become in he was he was gone. He was gone I caught respected it over your way. Called Him And he picked up the fall like he just didn't make history like you on the first person retire halftime. Even I was like he picked up. By what's up now what? Good. She'll say eight yet we need a quick forty-eight house. We paint this. You know you're come back and say now. I. Julio. I kind of in a weird way respected though because like obviously going leaving at halftime might put a bad. Taste in everyone's mouth being like you just left US Ohio. Halftime. Being like, yeah. I don't have it anymore and I can't help you guys when I'm done. That's all. Respect. Yeah I'd rather have gotten. Dave is out there. This Day was like he's GonNa be respected. No matter what. We were saying yeah. Leave us a hand. He opted out. That's all he did. He just said you know what I'm doing if he had stuck around in his heart wasn't in it, then that would end up being like a drag on the rest the teams so it was crazy. Game. We had unaddressed three columns. The other corner that we had had got hurt special team. So he was the only cornered. It was loud. Okay. That somebody in maybe maybe wait till after the game but still I kind of like I do respect because nobody else has done it before. So like Hat's, he's a trendsetter that's able to do that fandango commercial. Right that's Making the money. Just walk away. Walk Waiter Josh I. Hope One thing that you guys keep in the playbook for this year. I know you got a Lotta Shit for it but the go route to fullback and I think that you should try it again because now now's the last time anyone is gonna be expecting it because they saw what happened in the last the last time. It was like, okay that's a pretty obvious mistake that he made it on that but now nobody's going to look to defend it. Yeah I mean, we like our full becky impact Marco. He's got you guys been given enough. Assists I. Know You guys made your own fullback assist? Yeah. If you go back and watch them these quarterback sneaks that I had. He was right there pushing me and so I'm Anita recount on those we'll get jake to look into that Jake Ski. We can readjust but this year we're going to be keeping a very close watch on those perfect trae are you have you buried the hatchet with it's on you but with Gronk after the famous gronk slim. Nominee. Never talked to him. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's pretty much. Over. No, I don't think well, people still talk about this judy's daylight. talked about it was crazy I mean gronk losses five Aba Y'all got wet when gainst defensively. Yeah now imagine if that was me though got mad that I didn't get a sack Tom Brady now did that Tom Brady Hi, how they like? What would have been? From my for doing it to Tom Brady more than one week I'd say. Down value my life man. Probably now. My life back then as rookie man assault. Yeah. It was. It was. Definitely assault So, Pai one more thing. I'm saying out big giant Fan. I. A DRAFT DOT COM, which I did. Yeah. In Retrospect Josh Osas like ten percent of the signing bonus. Want you don't want to be on the hook for money Josh literally over. A million dollars. Got Kids I can't give up, right? Yeah. Okay. So It's good that you got drafted on your own merit and you didn't need a website to help you. Guys that's. For sure Joshua's like maybe. Shall be a rancher in fucking California right now if it wasn't for us. I think I think seventeen is the put pretty bad boy. Eight we that was the best part. It's pretty much the sweet spot for every joke we make where we just make people think that we have more influence than we actually do, and then we all kind of know deep down like we didn't do anything may talked. About recycling. Take. Deputy. RESIGNED TRAE white. TRAE WHITE DOT com. Okay. So ten percent is what you've agreed to. Get you to. Hard Bark Boom Dour show really got us Okay. All Right Josh you there's no I mean you we joke. But you know that didn't going to get drafted high no matter what I mean. Yeah. It's funny though to be like, yeah it was all just draft Josh Allen. So we were in contention to draft the other Josh shown US last year. Yeah. It's. Potentially could happen again and our team had bought. Bought the URL we draft Josh Allen Again, Dot Com. In Croatia. Josh. Allen. Yeah. So. Josh since we do love you and since we've been such an integral part of your career, I, feel like we also have to show you a little bit tough love every now and again. This comes from US or comes to us from Billy football. He broke down some your film and specifically that throw that was put online today we're through the deep ball. He compared to your arm angle and college at the combine, and he's saying you need to get your elbow higher than your shoulder. Your throwing motion is starting to give off. Philip. Rivers, vibes, and billy says. Got Drafted, keep your elbow high and don't get lazy. Don't be spoiled with rocket arm and have lazy mechanics. So is that something that you've been looking at I one now I will you know I I one hundred percent agree with them. You can't argue against him. You know he But on the Plus Side Philip Rivers Hall of Fame Guy and I mean I don't think it's a terrible thing. Good Point. So I, guess I, guess we're on the right path build. You aren't defend your take I just WanNa make sure that you don't get lazy near mechanics in your third year because. Now, there's no excuse sophomore slope, but I'm a big fan really wants you. Man Barely. There we go. Train is one last question for you. You have there's trae in Louisiana. Yeah everyday is. Pretty that's a pretty sick thing to have a name a day named after you and have it be day in Shreveport Louisiana. Yeah, it's pretty. Is It march third? April is like A. Martial Shit you you've marsters what? Trick tree dates. Three Yes. That is good. April. Around the same time I got drafted. So we you don't. You don't know trae you don't know what they. Every every twenty, seven years straight and so forth. So we'll just fit that to you though. Got drafty. Four Twenty six twenty seven okay twenty seven on the twenty, seventh day eight, Josh, where did you get for the last day? I send sent him a good luck with trading. Fun. That's nice. What a gift trade a water fucking awesome to have. Did you get a key to the city or anything or a key to stay? Yeah. Yeah. What does that open? Seattle I'll try to become in my hometown. Jon Is the Buffalo. You see what I'm saying Yeah. I got I'm over three cities to the ED keystone city though over four really we gotta get you. You should get one of Buffalo Yeah if you win a playoff game, then I think. That'd be big that. Super Bowl, I got a key to Toledo's. Can. Come with us when we do that. So that's like Portland on there. Yeah. That'd be sick. I'm a place I'm there. All right. So last question I had was Miandi dot com slash pm go to me and dot com slash pm t get fifteen percent off your first purchase. I think we've asked you this josh but maybe not. But I know, we obviously have an issue trae. What is your favorite Buffalo Wings in Buffalo Train? I like I like dopes man they got these. No actually. You know as dumps. Really good. But I like to go to this place called martyrs 'cause they have real. No No. No. Not Barbie markers a moulders more. Hey, look in Buffalo. Please go. Get some of the trae white spicy barbecue wings. On the blood. We buy use the code trade. A. Percents goes. To. My Foundation guys. Okay. What is it? What was your answer? I? Think it might have we might have asked you too soon to you're moving to. Buffalo. Josh. But what's your favorite? It'd be. It'd be a place bar bill a little the to two stores now bar bill. Yeah, we know that. Butter Cajun honey buttered Barbecue Cajun style. Fantastic their high is extremely hot but I'm all in on the tray white wings too. I like Barbados beef on Weck to yell and they you guys went. Yeah. With rich and Eric would in Richie. Incognito. You gotta get his name. Off. Do. You have your own Mug Josh Oh yeah. Oh. Yeah. Hell. Yes. That's all. That's better than the city. Yes. Absolutely. Basically, the key to the city absolutely is I have one last last question. This is kind of an analytics type deal I. saw that bleacher report predicts that you guys might have to deal with some adversity in the next couple seasons because the bills are getting so good that you guys no longer can bank on drafting in like the top five top ten. And they predict downturn to the bills because you're going to be so good that you won't be able to get good players anymore in the first round Israel real high level of analytical stuff is that something that you guys have talked about hey, should start sucking again and then we can get good draft picks and that's really the key to building towards the future now too long before we got here. We look I'm far of the first year of the new coach. Stab the new turnaround slapped take him real real serious. Yeah. We try to turn it around. We've been to the playoffs now to last year's. AM in seventeen was the first time. We made an eighteen years. So we take dead very seriously. So No, we have a young team young accord nucleus feel like this on. keep us going in right direction years to come so. We'll we'll take draft and thirty second overdrafted fifth and he did we. Listeners say that's not good. Like mediocre all the time. Thank you guys we appreciate it. Hopefully there are fans in the stadium this year because we definitely will come to a bills game but like I so you take it. Yeah. Yep. We're bills, mafia honoree bills, mafia and I I'm excited to see you guys on more prime time games to. How many we got for? You got four of them. Yeah. Josh. ACID is time we had not one right. Right. Yeah. Great. Have you been up for Primetime game yet. have either when you guys been miked up for a primetime game. Now. I. Feel like that would suck. I would just be constantly thinking about what? I'm saying hoping they don't Sam Darnold and put out a saying limps. Words if you guys. Do, get miked up for a primetime. Game. We'll will bump point five percent off of your fee that you owe us two percent trae ten percent. Josh if you just throw in a couple of just say part of my take throughout the entire game What we're GONNA play we'll we'll name it. Perfect I. Love Talk He'll Mary. Yes. Mary I. Love It. Yes. I will thank you guys really appreciate. 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Let's finish up the show reminder we have a show on Tuesday we actually have Blake Anderson workaholics, fame and warned sharp run talk some NFL preview. On Tuesday. Then on Friday, we will have our show as schedules, no-show, Wednesday but a show on Tuesday whoever enjoys labor? Day weekend Okay. Bigger Than Ben part two. Oh my God it was so good. This. It's just a it's just following ben into doctor visits. Yeah. Fall in been around to to various hospitals to his doctor to the team facility and it's Inter spliced with Ben just blogging just walking around his house talking into his iphone. If if there's one person that the front facing iphone camera was not meant to photograph, it's definitely Big Ben like is he holds it right at his chin. It looks like the reverse of the pictures that you take Joe Buck because he's gone from his Gullet I've done those regretting yeah up on Big Ben but Maybe, this is just my brain is broken by porn, but there's something about someone taking a video and asking questions behind the camera in like a like they were in a hotel room there in a car I just the whole time of Mike. About fuck like I I when they were in the car and she was like, how's your arm feeling I'm like? You're about to fuck. What say you got on their anywhere. I. Really. ITCHY itchy. Make It feel better. My brain is so fucked up and I think that's a common thing that most people probably watch something like that. Maybe I'm wrong. But you're have that vibe. You're like WHOA WHOA is this. This is going to be a porn and I think I had the vibe but I didn't think about it just like subliminally. I was wondering why was getting aroused during it? I think I figured out why Big Ben my theory on on this documentary is that Ben sat down when he got injured and he was like I'm going to take this time away from football to write a book I'm going to write my story I'm going to talk about all the ups and downs that have been through and sat down as his computer and he typed like chapter one. Yeah. I'm sitting here right now with a hurt elbow and then he looked at and he was like I don't I don't know what else why you know what I should just I should take all my thoughts just make a video. I like that that's actually a spot on probably would happen. I also love the editing of this outside of the cell phone videos. It's happening I think three or four times now where it's almost like we won't believe Ben. So we're just going to he'll say something and then the editing will cut to his doctor saying the exact same thing it'd be like it opened the this part to open with him saying they had never seen an injury like that, and then it goes right to his doctor being like we've never seen an injury like that. It's almost like a pair. You can almost tell though that the question that was asked to the doctor was leading him to say it a certain way because big ben does say like, no one's ever seen. The amount that I had torn off the bone was just never before seen in any quarterback and the doctor was like, yeah, you know you don't see that a lot It's it's certainly not something I don't I. Don't think I've ever operated on producer literally asked, Hey, have you ever seen anything like this Hawk about that talked about how little you've seen things like this all the things you've seen have you seen anything like this? So we also the doctor, the doctors great character in this because he has been brought in just you reaffirm how tough big Ben is when he gets his stitches out the stitches scene was like. Like maybe three seconds of taking the stitches out and five minutes about talking about how much it was going to hurt, and then after it'd be like told, you is going to hurt but he also dropped his gem when he said I don't think people realize what it takes to get big out there to entertain them. He's had two, hundred, twenty, two, hundred, twenty visits. The. What does that? So when Ben Gets re-taped is that visit? Yeah. Visits visit. If you're a HYPOCHONDRIAC, you can have like three. You can rack up three hundred doctors visits almost instantaneous God he did this. He just made this for us I really think that he made this like the to. Joke about how like a dog who fakes injuries all the time let me make a documentary that just talking about my inland. Then there were injuries within the injuries to there was one scene that was in there were Ben was sitting I think. I don't know maybe a soccer field watching his kids play and he turned the camera and he was so So I've got a cold. Yes. I'm dealing with a cold right now. In addition to the elbow. So update your little glowing figuring silhouette that you put on Fox and fell. Sunday we talk about all the injuries I have with also a sinus infection sinus long spin. He should've done side documentary like to play within the play. Just him getting over that cold while he's dealing with the elbow injury. How much time do you think big Ben is said like Corona. Oh my God. He's kind of million tests. So the only other things I had, it's essentially the passion of the Christ. Passion of the Christ for himself. Yes. Shroud of Turin is just a terrible time. It's incredible. So He Had from it was he was cleaning his dog poop in his backyard barefoot. Yup Psycho like just want. You gotTa feel the Ground Yeah and then at the end he had like the producer director whoever's fucking making this is probably just big Ben's like cousin. They had like a moment where they did the soft music and Big Ben's running around in a in a sun soaked football field. And I'm sitting there like. Big Ben is making like a Tom Rinaldi piece where they were they were they talked to a guy who's like whole family died in a fire and then he got cancer beat it and got the NFL. Pick benches fucking tore a couple of ligaments in his elbow and now he's And this was his first hang session with the browns. Since he tours elbow, it was like the greatest redemption ending to this beautiful scene and soft light. It was my wish draw draw you know jogging around it's like we're letting the dog free again after all all the things gone through it's like wait hold on, he missed a year. Like Alex. Smith had an injury that was ten billion times more horrific than big bet how upset you think big Ben was when he saw that Alex Smith Video Hall and you'll say how come I don't have any footage mike welcome me home hospitals string me down with mountain doing the graven Walking into my house for the first time. It was it was like Remember that video cecil, the lion lying reintroduced the. Their old friends for the first time. They let big big Ben out of the car and he's like that's The dismount sets Mason Rudolph Yeah. Oh Shit. Pounds up to it's I mean it's incredible. I don't know how many more it would be. So we have four more would soon be so ben Rothlisberger to release to a two part documentary each being seventeen minutes long it'd be like could've just put it in one. Yeah. I would love that so much. That's it. You have to wonder how much big porn addiction played into the never before seen elbow injury on. His Jacket too harsh rue, and as I mentioned before, there's just a feeling of a porn vibe. Big Ben Probably had a lot to do with the story boarding of this documentary. Yeah. This is why it's why wife figures. So prominently and it because I think she's probably been she knows his secret he just threw on like a couple of casting couch videos went out himself with to too high viscosity Lube threw his elbow out and he had to make it up for her by putting her into his documentary. Unbelievable. All right. That is her show. We got a big week next. Football, back, football is back on ball is back next week. I don't know what it's. GonNa look like it's going to be weird but football is back have a great Labor Day weekend billy do you have something planned because I'm going to give I'm gonNA give it another Man Goat See who doesn't know. We'll finish. I'll do I'll give it after going to pick up a ping pong ball, but you can talk. Love you guys. Billy TD. Four to R, N K.. The, an RT that's playstation for red pandas are not actually pandas stroke. Or bears matter what are. The raccoons right. Red Pandas are basically read raccoons. Red Trash. Point Eight, twenty eight. Twenty eight, you're like when when you meet like a five year old, you know what did you learn in school today and he just starts fucking shouting out all these stupid facts about your the. Jerry Maguire past what you are you're you're grown fun fun. It is fun weekend. Dude. You did a great job today. As. We. Are. You GonNa Watch. T. Jimmy. If he actually said I was that's like no, no no you said sweet as in like he's he's no you. Crow saying that you've reached like. Exactly. Love. Yes. Happy. Labor Day weekend. Coming. beat. added. called. Outcome. Long.

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2424 - Matt Donaher

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2424 - Matt Donaher

"This is Tony Oscar. God knows and we are Spanish Aki presents. We have a brand new podcast here on ear wool and we'll be bringing you the best of the heart of ladder next comedy join us for new episodes every Tuesday God. I'm out of this presents his out now listen in stitcher apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast Chico hey everybody Jimmy never not funny honey with our guest met Donna her right around the corner but first. Let's talk about whatever you're wearing because I got news for you. Whatever it is Mac Weldon is better mack well than is a premium men's essentials brand that believes in smart design premium fabrics and simple shopping <hes>? I wear their pants ransomware their underpants are where they're t t shirt on stage last night and boy. I felt good felt very very good and here's the deal they got for you. If you order at a pair of underpants and you don't like your first pair guess what you can keep it and they're still going to refund you. 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That's our buddies keefer southern the GATT twenty four father should've showed up at Sam's GonNa say Donald also let other ever show the ever did not that would have been with them wouldn't debase himself television as he never done television donald this other than southern with him the other day gays in something new right <hes> <hes> I saw I saw his face on something. Oh Gosh he's at in that that Michael Douglas Show Izzy Kaminsky method exa. I don't know they think it's great reviews and yet I've not watched. I couldn't tell you where to watch it annette flex. Oh is I think they marketed it wrong. Because when I I thought it was like Oh too old guy sitting on a bench fuck off but then I realized it's about Hollywood and I I will watch anything about Hollywood. I love that stuff so I probably would like it. You ever see going in style style. That's a it's fun movie about guys all the gentleman robbing a bank. I think that's got Mike complaining different things. I saw tough guy so I'm also T._v.. Actual Yeah of course he has Donald Sutherland. I have a feeling that maybe donald the key for her. Maybe not <hes> don't get along. Maybe that's something I read back in nineteen eighty seven when when lost moist game outrage hearthrow the eighty-eight wonder lost boys come on that's eight hundred eighty seven bullseye. That's what I want to say that maybe that was or or maybe I was privy to it because I knew some people in that set that maybe I heard that maybe Kiefer and his dad don't click interesting that would come up on the set of lost boys even keep the star Yeah but was he sit around talking. Uh How my fucking Dad. Maybe you know you're on a set for. I guess twenty hour days. Somebody's GonNa Act is you're gonNA visit. No Mason get rock. Is that his name Jason Detrick Patrick. Thank you lose. Jason Kidd Right. There's a Jason Dedrick. I think there isn't there but I'm thinking of Patrick J J rettig everything. He's a basketball no not chasing iron eagle so there was someone right but isn't he also lost boys. No that's that's Jason Patric Patrick. Jason Patric Patrick's like the star along with Kiefer Sutherland yeah keepers like the bad guys are head of the loss boys and he's been bachelor's those to be the good guy and right Corey Hamish his brother who tries to save them who loves Roblo blow. I knew all this because of my associate with Corey Hayme at that time <hes> friends of mine were friends with with the Hames as you know that that's on the show prior it has but that's not I did not remember that some of their connection the lost boys correlated okay but yes. There's another one but I don I the hairstyle. I guess I've said it before. The hairstylist Dino Gone Zeon right. I was friends with his son right right right again. I I might be making this these rumors up. I don't I just knew a corey was on the set and he would tell us some stories and what is your connection to the band Hayme <hes> I saw them once <hes> sit in with no I I saw them in the audience at Fleetwood Mac show when Stevie Nicks told us that's the future of rock and roll okay. That's my that's one connector. That's my one conviction. Where do they even pronounce it that or do they say hi might say hyme? I don't Heim Lehem Keefer Donald work together and Western culture forsaken okay. How are they get alliance accordingly according to Keefer okay well of course it was the niners for years? They didn't get along expecting how powerful it was going to be when I looked into my father's is there was something about my dad. Being that was a real trigger for me so suggesting sixteen he up until then no dad is yeah. That's that's how I read into. That probably worked a lot when he was growing up didn't seem machines. I would imagine the Sheen's same situation. I feel like Donald Sutherland was in a million movies and he's still doing name when he was bad in by the way he's a little over the top but I still think he does that. He's really good at it. I can only think of things I like <hes> like without limits the Steve Prefontaine story great in that so the thing that I was trying to remember that I'd seen him in is there's a movie called Ad Astra where the Brad Pitt is the lead. I think it's IT'S A it's a space movie how they never heard of this. It's coming out so I just thought I was not out yet. Oh I see that's all yeah yeah. I saw the trailer for that did I is that true. It's coming out like September. Maybe like that looks. It looks interesting. It looks like a like a hard sci-fi potential legal type movie. I think it looks pretty good. Donald Sutherland shows up with <hes> with his his acting style. He's got to be in his eighties now. Don't you think I'm GonNa Guess Eighty Four. That's what do you think that feels all right that would mean. He was born in Nineteen thirty five well. When when did he was in the mash movie right I remember that right and so that was seventy seventy three maybe yeah and he wasn't the age of the people he was playing? He was older than that. I would think so. He's probably twenty five thirty at that time. I'M GONNA eighty four guys. He's always looked kind of old haggard so it's interesting Walter Matthau type. Ah just turned eighty four glad July seventeenth just look at that so we nail a week ago Donald Sutherland Center meet bullseyes. I told You I knew the Hames I knew the hairstylist. I know how old the Sutherland's are shocking twenty four. That wasn't a bet. I thought you were GONNA put some puts them. Now I wish I would've I bet I would've wanted the history of the show I I was looking at the button. Dammit Danny for not winning money so it's really is Israeli Elliott's fault if he he could have a dollar Elliott. I agree not kidding you. Owe me a dollar because throw it out yeah. Well yeah come on bringing in quarters over here quarters. Where chips chips? Yes you know. The way that we bet on this is program. It's all monopoly money worried about the S._E._C.. S It wasn't a bad throw. It wasn't a fantastic throw it wasn't but it wasn't gonNA hit your face and that that was my biggest concern. You can see my well. No I wasn't on camera but you could see my eyes. They were I looked into it was very emotional. It was like looking into Donald's is very similar. Can you believe that you may be true. Father and his album looking into Donald's is well. Maybe develope will. He's a tiny guy to keefer. I believe he he's. He's not that much taller than I am really. I believe he might be maybe a five eight I feel like did I see him or did. I just hear the story of someone on seeing him N._F._l.. Valley I don't know maybe it was mean. Did a lease see him says five nine so you could probably knock off it enter to yeah. I truly five eight to be. I think it's like five six five seven which again push back on any asshole L. casting person or whatever you all you young wannabe actors out there. If you hear anybody tell you you can't make because you're short fuck them. The camera takes care of that. Yes it does the cemetery for so many cassie. I heard it so much when I started out I can have a tough time because you're short yeah I could see Michael. J. Fox is really tough. Tom Cruise is really struggling isn't he. Then here's this guy there's so many more to it's like you just gotTa. You've got really want to do it and keep doing donald. Sutherland is six four yes. He's <hes> we know whether beefing for so long look into his is yeah yeah right well seculars apple boxes a couple of apple bucks for Knox yet the glasses on this really far away. It's all right listen to that. I line yeah. We gotTa have you about building twelve paces away. WE'RE GONNA fever Houston separate rooms stick your seventy five steps and get paces away if you could well it wasn't western so yeah. They must have been taking at least ten. Go back to back. That's so you do all your blocking on then I like I like you. I WANNA as an actor too. I think he doesn't shop. I don't feel strongly about him either way. I'm not mad at him. I'm not a fan and I see I mean there hasn't been much to be. I didn't watch twenty four that was really the only thing thing he has a squint actor though he is actor that what else in the eighties other than lost boys which I liked but I you know he was the bad guy and there's a lot of problems with that movie The problem of the movie when's the last time you saw it. A couple of years probably yeah we did a gays movie of movies of all time list on the website used to work for that made the list. Isn't that funny I just I said that when the movie came out and I didn't I didn't see it that way I just saw as well I mean you've got that sweaty shirtless shirtless saxophone player at the beginning Corey Haim singing about Rob Lowe and the top rob lowe poster but then singing that once on the tub very very good point who's as shoemakers who gave nipples rules to the bat suit yeah. That's right like you want it right you all. I wonder if I would feel differently about those movie about his Batman Movies now because I feel like in retrospect I've started to feel Batman is inherently ridiculous as a character and so the Cambier like the the T._v.. Show is can't be an fun works and the the Lego Batman movie is silly and doesn't take itself seriously. Maybe I would actually like those movies because of that but I think they've unfortunately had the misfortune of. He was trying to have fun with it but they still there. Were still an overriding sense of the studio wanting to be taken seriously like this is just I think the Batman Fan also like they were like Oh finally Batmans being done the right way. It's not can't be he's a dark character right and then you know we're we get to erase sixty six yeah and so. I think that hurt it but I think you're probably right matt. I think Tim Burton had it nailed it because he had that weird mix right camping campus yeah that was it. That was the bulls. I hate it. Now on Batman and you get a thousand times. If you call that movie at the joker I think I would have come out of it going. Hey that was is a great movie <hes> but when it's Batman and it's the first year huge Batman moving you're waiting your your tire life to see a Batman movie yeah. I didn't think there was not Batman but all the they did a really good job with all of the toys and the car and get those wonderful wonderful toys Elliott but I I got a message on here but it's fine okay. Is it a message regarding this program <hes> or the equipment of this program or you. Just get your message about some pipes over now. That would be over here. This is this is the program related. That's why that's why I had the freak out face I see I like the weird thing about Tim. Burton's Batman is at the time it looked super impressive and cool and when I see like a scene now I'm like man that looks crappy. Just looks looks very cheap and does it by modern standards. It looks like like you can see how it was all filmed in like one square block of the Warner Brothers lot modern standards every Wednesday over there A._B._C.. Ed O'Neill Yeah Yeah. That's the that's the show where Ed O'Neill plays <hes> the head of standards and practices for network. He's constantly saying hey. You can't say that that's his catchphrase but he's terrific. It's weird is that they never actually show the scenes that he makes commentary about. It's just him and his office. It's very mad. Oh yeah that's not a bad idea for show also not a good part but the other stuff. That's Clinton Santa that because we're good people who said any gold appreciated that you laugh though we're very strong strong I I look honestly action and you couldn't stop it. You're right about that. I don't disagree with that. <hes> what <hes> on the the weekend <hes>. Let's talk about our weekends <hes> right with anything anything go <hes> my wife. We went to see Queen over the weekend. Oh Yeah how was I <hes> my son. In way it was it was Oliver's Christmas gift from two thousand eighteen right we finally we're able to go see queen. We had terrific seats closest but the wonderful seats forum <hes> at the form the <music> <hes> and it was <hes> it was terrific. <hes> guest that Adam Lambert is a heck of an entertainer agree performer great voice I did I will say this and I don't WanNa insult any Queen Fan. <hes> I think Brian May is one of the greatest racketeers of all time I did witness what I will now. We'll take bumble out of the top spot. I witnessed the worst Guitar Solo in the history of Rockin. WHOA it was it was I self indulgent? Laborious was endlessly was noise in as we in fact as we're walking out Daniels like you go to more than I do she was that this show is falling accepted. I Went Guitar Solo Guitar Solo. Wow now it was I mean he's also seventy something year old man now right. He's doing the Solos in the songs beautifully it was it. was you know it's when they just come out on their own. It's just them at Electric Guitar and they just get they're just doing yeah. It was Jimmy he's okay. I know you just you're not on his level. You don't you can't fathom the equations that are going into that Solo I of all of them. He's like beautiful mind. There's like a quick spinning around. Go ahead and you and you saw all all of them. I saw everything it was <hes> but the rest of the show was it was a ten <hes> I get the show nine point nine because of that solo the rest of it was <hes> and the also didn't do and this is my the only played about the last time I saw them. They didn't do my best friend which <hes> is a bummer because that's great saw <hes> but you know you've got a catalog like that but if they play everything else that's that's if that's the one to me. There's going to be one. You're missing. I'd rather that'd be that one. There's like a lot of other song. What would you give me some others? <hes> you know we will rocky. We're the champions wraps. Show must go on they did do show must go on sure absolutely right in the middle of the show. Oh which I <hes> fat bottomed girls yeah. <hes> bicycle fat bottomed girls. You got it clean. Keep yourself alive. Oh that's good for someone gave you look at me. The I hate my dad. I'm they play another one the dust of course it's great. Yeah it's great. They did four off of the works which I that's my favorite queen album so that was good that machines they did. <hes> want to break free. They did <hes> Radio Gaga that okay. That's another and then another. I WANNA break free. I feel kind of song that you could see them not doing see them. That's confusing to me they did. I WANNA break free but they didn't do my best friend which I think I want to break free. I love it because that's my favorite Quiapo but I think if you drop that and replace it with your my best friend. The place goes bananas. What are they came out like at the very end just Adam Lambert and Brian May with an acoustic guitar too? That's why don't they do that. There's only so many songs to show. We'll have one more argument so many hours a day. What are you asking? It was twenty four but it's three Tong here. I will tell you that the do a little acoustic thing in the middle of the show Garin that where they brian may comes South Acoustic and does <hes> love my life where then Freddy shows up as a Hologram oh and that is <hes> phenomenal <hes> and then they start the I'd I apologize if you're going to see Queen <hes> but I think it's out there in the world they <hes> the encore starts with that the famous no and him getting the crowd and he's basically getting to do it yeah and then they go into. We will rock you nice but it gives you chills. It really gives you chills because he he does it that he got fuck. You walks away yeah. It's it's moving. It's great. It was a great show one thing about your my best friend and I'm probably unique in this at least for my age I did. I don't think I was really familiar with that song until it was in like a an A._t.. And T. commercial it was in some. I'm commercial and so to me. It always sounds like a jingle and I'm like I take the other ones. I sounds like a jingle the <hes> <hes> don't stop me now so very much me go yeah that I think that also was cordial. Actually my currently being one but yeah that one is very in Libya right and a lot of their songs are have permeated the culture so deeply that you can't really hear them fresh. You're just like there. It is yeah I mean rhapsodies as an example of a really interesting song. That's doesn't isn't interesting anymore because we've all heard it a billion times yeah bicycle bicycle that goes right into the fat bottomed girls <hes> <hes> and as we know from that's all they make the around but a great show any I wanNA say five costume changes for Edinburgh. I get a kick out of came out. He goes. I'm wearing a pink skirt and he was they are but <hes> rented a fan of never not a woman named. Susan Nice was very kind of say hello as we were about to get in line for some food <hes> and then she was very area surprised to see our hero there and <hes> and then she <hes> very she goes I. I guess you're Oliver and the usual she goes. I know everything about you guys. You don't have a clue. I am Nice to meet you then yeah but she was a very very nice yeah <hes> pity and it makes my kid which is really all. I care about yeah sure yeah. I've brought Oliver to the Improv last week that I tell you this already on the show. I don't think he's mentioned on the show told me because it was nice Thursday. It wasn't it yes <hes> yeah I brought Oliver to who had a set of the Improv last week and abroad Oliver and <hes> <hes> in the hallway. I'm one of the quote unquote famous Comedians in the hallway of famous comedian photographs and listen. I you want to be proud of your kids but it made me full. Just full Rodney's here for me to see how excited was that his dad was on. The Wall was like that's I quit. I'm done gets it go the head they then so I took a picture of him underneath appointing at it and and then just just this morning because dad that your picture at the wall that's the coolest thing ever wow and it was like it is pretty cool. It is pretty cool rare. It is yours what twenty thirty pictures on along the hallway yeah and it feels good. Yeah I see where they bury todd glasses. I got a nice prominent spot in it and I don't know if somebody the Improv the keeps it up. They're gonNA against other PARO has actually been here. That'd be depressing you go in there. One day I picture we'll tell you this. I did not expect Sebastian. Men's scalps goals. Go Up there forty nine times <hes>. It's been a year since I've done a set of Improv so I would not have been that surprise. They replaced me. They did move it. It was in a it was right. It used to be run as you walked out the showroom. It was right there. You see it immediately. It's now it's down the hall a little bit and I'm just still very flattered in grateful to be up there in Oliver got to see it and he got to see dad be funny well. There's a lot of people who've come along since you started and since you came to l. a. and started doing comedy how many here but so there's a generation of people who will never have the experience you had which is that Bud Friedman himself like saw you and it was like this guy's got it yeah like supported you. She did promoted. You like put. put You out there. That's a that's an incredible thing to have in your you know whether people know it or not. They don't need to know like you carry that with you whereas you know that's that's part of comedy history well. I appreciate you because I had heard for year like famous comedians quote unquote that I would open for which say you know the second bud sees you know you're gonNA get bud gets you but you're GonNa get you and sure enough. They were right like bud saw me and and luckily through support and speaking of Bud Bud is a guest on and I'm going to be a guest next couple of weeks Eddie. The bartender at the Improv has started a podcast because <hes> he was the last human being alive not to have one and it's called Eddie's bar the Improv and Eddie has been the bartender at the Improv since one thousand nine hundred seventy eight whoa and Eddie's also an actor and he's done some work work <hes> in fact he and I were on the army show <hes> both were guest stars on the show at the same same episode <hes> but Eddie has seen it all since seventy eight well and he asked me if I would be a guest on his podcast and certainly didn't I listened to the Kevin Nealon episode and the Crystal Alonzo Alonzo episode and if you are a fan of comedy and I know you are you will love this podcast. It is because you said that you like things about Hollywood and stuff. Kevin Nealon Kevin was the bartender there for year. I didn't know that and it is if you if you are a fan of Hollywood and show business and specifically stand up comedy the what they should have done five years ago smart podcast this <hes> and that he does a great job and he gets out of the way and lets people tell their stories and <hes> but he also he's seen at all he seen he seed everybody rise and fall or rise to the moon or the guys that are like this guy is going to be a star then never were like he seen it seventy eight I mean that's like so he saw the entire hi or boom of the eighty s and the bust and then another boom that's really cool. It's really so <hes> I've been enjoying listening to that and <hes> <hes> and like I said I'm very grateful that I that he's asked me to be a guest on that and I'll be on that like a couple of weeks. Mhm I'm also it'd be a guest on one Brennan Smith who I just had the pleasure meeting recently although he claims that we met back in the days of Largo which I don't remember but in <hes> he was involved with that spelling bee show that I did and he's got a podcast called the Bra the Brando cast where he takes a lot like this premise to he takes a band that you may or may not know anything about <hes> and just uses that as a skeleton to then you talk about Your Life <hes> and I ended up doing any surprises you with the band when you get their today's band will be in mind was sticks yeah and just coincidentally. I've got a lot of stories <hes> but it's basically you talk about your life and how it relates to that particular band and like he had some people on that too young ladies and the band was deep purple they had never heard of deep purple <hes> and so then the conversation comes from that and <hes> and that's also really fun podcast at a great time with the was as random that he that was sticks in your did he research and go this one hundred percent random <hes> he did say. I knew you being from Chicago. You probably would have some touchstone to this yeah <hes> but <hes> you know quite frankly. I'm grateful that didn't pull Chicago or although I do talk Chicago quite a bit the band yeah <hes> and it's great then they record it right at the at the ZAPPA offices O- <hes> so that was neat to be Frank Zappa's <hes> Zappa family offices this cool and see all of that memorabilia yeah sure how they record the show with all the screaming. That's going on against that family the Sutherland's Yeah I did not get into that Garin. I just <hes> I was a guest in in their office. I did not <hes> ask how what the dynamics are in the family currently because actually referring to the the infighting that's going on with. Yes Abbas this this is I should just let it pass but I was gonna say this at the time and then I I've I've forgot when you're talking about Guitar Solos a recently was looking. I went looking for thing that I couldn't find actually but I was listening to an interview with quest love from the roots and he was talking about when they <hes> when ah the interviewer asked him what was a great musical experience on the tonight show like playing with somebody that was like incredible and he was saying that when Bruce Springsteen came on tonight show and they played because the night it was like insane and so great so I went looking for that and I couldn't bovine but then I found another version of Bruce springsteen on the eastern band playing that song with Michael Stipe and I was very surprised that Bruce Springsteen did a guitar Solo. I was afraid that he did it at all and then I was also surprised at how good it was yeah. He's you've seen him right. He's usually has two guitarists on stage. The handle the lead right it would ease and he's just yeah he he got in he went in on it and I was like wow okay. I thought he was just more of like a cords guy. You know just backing up. I would've gone to my grave thinking that Matt. I'm a fan of the boss I bring up every show. I know you've you've made the pilgrimage to Asbury Park on the just go there so I want. I wanted to be in the spots that inspired his surname music. I know you excited for that movie. That's coming out. Yes I didn't see yesterday. which I feel like is <hes> now yesterday? <hes> what's the other one. That's like <hes> or maybe it is sort of similar is not the same premise exactly but I feel like you know it's like it's basically a movie about a British nobody but then it's also so about a musical artist or a ban in the case of yesterday. I'm all in on any of those things. Although I haven't gotten out to the theater I wanna I wanna see both of them. Well yesterday's really good yeah and the planet but it looks terrific. I'm <music>. I'm not even a big I can't I'm not a fan of at all really I don't have never gotten into dude. You got us. Eli The second you see him live. It's life changing. We'll the funny thing is is that trailer makes me want to go. Listen to the music so I can't imagine how I'm going to be what after I watched the yeah I will tell you this when I saw Bruce springsteen live <hes> to this day my friend Chris Bar who's a friend of mine from Chicago that I went with <hes> he laughs that I was so bored I had to ice cream cones. I <hes> and it might have all been during the same same song because he did <hes> lineup day just around the corner from the other day and he does a long version Jammie version of that because he doesn't you know it does a three and a half hour show and I want to say that I started going. I went out and get another one during that exact same song and I and by the way that's one of the phones of his. I like the thing is if if I saw them I would know probably thirty percent of the song. No you know more than that you think I really do. I don't know I these especially because I've paid attention to any of his output. Since the the ninety percent you're right about that and so there's and I get the sense that I mean he puts like a thousand percent energy into every single song and that's great if you're into it and you know it but if you don't it's kind of like what what the hell like. This is a twenty minute jam a thing that I don't know icon. That's how you look and you know I I like jams. I liked you see Meridian Boise prog rock nonsense <hes> I got that I was uh-huh seeing Bruce springsteen and and and put it just it didn't move me the way that everybody else claims that it will run and maybe because there is a lot of I want to say. I see the Tom Joe tour so I saw like yeah a lot too much Tom Jody right and <hes> now now somebody will cut to that set list and go really didn't like the settlers asshole and there's one jobs all the rest of the Greenwich but the more time passes the more. There's going to be stuff. I don't know I also don't know a lot of the early stuff so I really I know the hits the pull up if pull up the most recent Bruce Bruce springsteen show now grant we only have limited amount of time. You have this hours but I'm curious as to what he is doing these days me to set wise. I feel like I should see him. I liked him growing up. Although he you know he hates the staple center percents right he is pretty committed to the forum so I think he's a guy that would rather do four nights at the forum than do one of the Rosebowl yeah so it's funny because the truth is I bring this up because he truly should just go to and but but that's not a gazillion dollars that's not it's not the worst but it's certainly logistically getting in and out as really annoying and horrible so that's no fun I guarantee you. What'd you find trying to find one? That's not springsteen on Broadway because eh here's something infant. Finland doesn't have a new album so he must be doing another cover band yeah. He does have a new album. He does apparently is getting very good. I liked it. I listened to and all they all get good reviews Jimmy. They're all really great apparently I do. I have an interesting listening to them now. I don't I you know I bought born to run. <hes> what's that what's what's born to run for one of his most favorite. You're kidding. You're doing already said wait a minute. That can't be wanting to know. I apologize that you're acting. It was good I and then I got born in the U._S._A.. Those are those were the two and then I wasn't all in but you wait for the third album starts with the word Bourne Bourne born identity misspelled yeah but I still liked it <hes> but I like to Lucky town in human touch those and I love which I don't really necessarily like that whole album. I think that song is phenomenal. At the time I wasn't interested in that stuff but then when the greatest hits came out and those were on the Milwaukee actually these are good good songs <hes> like I get lucky towns good <hes> tells me listen to Nebraska Yeah Dude I look I I'm not GonNa put it down because it didn't it was it didn't grabbed me by others will say it's in the top five albums of all tolerate. I never know what's on what is is the river on Nebraska now. That's the river. That's albums called the river. Okay what's on Nebraska. I know you're looking at something else right now. But you look up that I'll find out what's on the river. See if any of these songs and I'll just to sit here with my Dick in my hand supposed to carry the show as I go to wake you up Elliott. That's what makes you laugh at medical all right. Here's The river twenty sixteen sixteen way. This is the the this he did the whole river show. This isn't going to be Oh my God. Why is it so hard to find a settlers hungry heart is on the river? Yes it is and obviously you asked about Nebraska. Oh Nebraska River. Oh Yeah that's right the rivers on the river. Okay the river hungry heart is maybe the only song you know when I know the river you do yeah it was because it was on the greatest hits. I know I know all got Nebraska Nebraska. Oh Atlantic city. I like Atlantic. That's Great Song Yep up on the hill johnny nine highway patrolman vaguely familiar with state trooper used cars open all night my father's house and reason to believe now it looks to Bruce Springsteen faneuil how tense on I truly I know one Atlantic City and I've seen them live. I mean so I get it. I I know none they call them the boss Elliott Garin. I just accidentally in yeah but you don't WanNA listen to the boss wrote bosses. You have to go because it's the boss he's weekend. I this is my time to not listen to the boss <hes> penalty more <hes>. There's more anniversary and we'll talk about a debt. Maybe one or Thursday but more anniversary like I mentioned it's twenty years of sobriety this past week <hes> it was also thirty years ago that I quit my day job. Oh years ago this week that I quit my day job <hes> at M._C._i.. Records <hes> I actually want to say it was the right around this thing like the nineteenth and then also it was thirty five years ago this weaker last week that I got hired at J._R.'s music shop. What does that bullshit? What's this dog? Bullshit is a dog next next door areas. Hello Matt Look we'll get Donald Donnie walks in looking good looking nice smile on his face right the hair. Maybe the wind got in a little bit could need a maybe a trim. I'll say this about Matt on her when met and I were on that road and we worked Atlantic city <hes> to bring it back to the boss meet at night I we'll see the great thing about Matt. Donahue is just responded to as he walked in even when we say hey let's meet at noon for lunch. You walk down the stairs. There's a guy with a smile on his face. I mean that's here excited. I love it or are you always like that are just you're excited to see Jimmy. You're excited to be in the room to see Jimmy. I'm I'm afraid if I don't smile. He'll get mad yeah more my eh took a darker term met Donahue. Luckily texted him and said we're starting late. Can you come at noon and seven forty five and he said well your texts at twelve forty five yeah so I'll leave right away so thank you. I Apologize For that Typo my personality. Now he's this morning I because even Natalie was like you guys. Do you do that time and I was like no other emails eleven forty five but I I could easily just text him and be like hated me and this time instead. I'm like no. I don't WanNA bother anyone not bothering we're friends. It's actually not bother eh but like I turned into that because he had we started on time I would have been at eleven forty five hundred million our guest and it would have been one hundred percent. Daddy's false another where I had a weird detects thing with the over the weekend that I'm just going to bring up now because it's relevant it wasn't a big deal <hes> but we were our families got together to celebrate our respective birthdays over the weekend yes and <hes> use. You suddenly realize Oh. I have to do a set tonight. So can we have can we eat early like four thirty right and I was like yeah sure man better yet. Let's make it four twenty Bro. Put a little leaf yeah and then you were like great then I was like no I was kidding especially for thirty years I said four twenty it is thanks right. Here's what happened I because I was so panicked about leaving and getting to that show on time because here's the thing I made a big deal out of. I have to go first on the show so I get home because because the truth was at that time I did not know Danielle and Oliver would be with me and I would need to get home so they were kind of to put me. I the last thing I wanted to do with show up late so when you gave me an extra ten minutes it was like I'm GonNa take that extra ten minutes but then it put me in the did he not get my job responded to the joke. You don't give them a little wow. That's why I was like so. Does he really expect me there at four twenty or so you got their four twenty five split to dip. I'd sure did because I was like I don't I don't think the four twenty it was a real thing to me. It was a joke. It is a joke and it's a great joke one hundred percent. It's a joke but I also was taking the ten minutes but you couldn't have given anything to college. You didn't acknowledge the joke. Jokes always acknowledged. I assume if if one person in here wouldn't acknowledge one of your jobs they'd all be fired you also you not only did not dog knowledge it. You responded to it as if it wasn't a that's through me so then I was like. I don't want to get into a thing more than I have to write you back again the weight so are we really doing for twenty or are we both on in on this job. Jimmy has been sending a lot of emoticons lately and frankly. I don't think they're appropriate. Show me one on their Matt Jokes the thing when you scroll because I was being pleasant nine to you now when you say a MoD cons. Are you talking about emojis or are you talking about like actual pornography more pornography. He likes sending me images. I'm going to point out the last time that I used one for you. Sir and it was <hes> January thirty first at nine. PM in your face well. Let's <hes> partly standing by possible tornadoes Pardo Donnie back at it again we could always punch hundred up etc says Matt and I said Always Punch up never punched down and then he wrote Jesus Christ this fucking snowflake of we needed that the <hes> I put the hand up. I have to be honest. I don't understand my own joke high five high fiving give him the high for the Snow I've met I wish I wish I understood it stop. I need you to knock Akhadov emoticons. You don't even know what you're doing. emojis motor cons are just like Colin. Semi Colon the originators near the grandparents emojis old school or you're just like an old man. He's let's go back to this real quickly. Quickly Matt. We were trying to decide Garin has been spending. I'll say it way too long time trying to find settlers. Bruce springsteen problem is is that everything recently is that show that broad run for hundreds of those and then the river tour which you said is just the River River with hits but we don't want that either. We want the last time he did like a regular still looking yeah because everything's the river they give me the river. Let's just do the river and be done with this and see that would enjoy the show and I've talked about this may already know that I am on board with hungry heart and the river so all right but if I have to hear the whole album in a live setting that's going to be I'm going to be a little bit loss but the Fans GonNa love it sure the fan thirty five song here we go starting out kicks kicks off with meet me in the city there you go right out of the box me and the see the box. You don't know what songs plan. I'm like what this is the kickoff okay all right. This is the boss Bruce springsteen right. You paid three hundred dollars. You're not you're at the forum only one Boston my life and who's that Jesus Christ. Thank you know I'm sorry I misunderstood all right go and then the river the ties the bind Sherry Darling Jackson cage to hearts to have you know two hearts to two two hearts that be of hearts. I need you a need stacey q cover which is bizarre he wrote a lot of hits didn't realize one of them Independence Day. I keep going hungry heart. There's everybody's got now. Matt goes seven songs in out in the street out in the street crush on you jets Russia Sean. I want that to be that so badly insane is you can look but you better not touch <hes> it might be good. I WanNa Marr- you seems like a weird thing to do a train song but all right <hes> the river I do know that one he's back in get sad point blank <hes> Cadillac ranch. You know that I know pink Cadillac Communal Cadillac ranch do though you you've heard that where he got the pink Cadillac ranch radio the ranch ranch got that same time a rocker fadeaway <hes> stolen car <hes>. That's a good Song Ramrod the price price you pay drive all night okay. That's the third song I know you've listed. You might be taking city loppers because I was still no. I'm sitting onto reckon the highway <hes> Mhm I think that's the end of the river okay all right now. They take a break and now get ready to do for some dogs you that people that don't know my band might enjoyed here we oh I hear you prove it on night. Oh that's good. That's good song but there's no reason you would know it. My Love will not let you down. Oh my God this guy's going on his way to mad mad badlands. No no love. What do you have to three? I'm up to three. How does it say? Is there a number next each song twenty twenty four twenty four in three yeah. That's a long trip to the four GonNa work for me but then here we go there now. Now it's GonNa kick in third. Yes I can show up. Late is what we're learning yeah tougher than the rest because the night goes to those loans to by the way look up that version him and Michael Stipe bids phenomenal. I believe it. That's a great soldier. That's one of those. That's all the watchtower. You can't screw that song. It's really good you know what is a great version of pedal opponent. It really does a great version of that and go on Garin. Jungle uncle is great song. I don't know Okay Thunder Road and now we're in the encore. Okay so you know four four songs in thirty. He does wrecking ball actually does he's swing on wrecking ball for that. That'd be great his his record balls good song. I vaguely vaguely like a newer song right yeah yeah kind of that game or Iran still no all right. Arena jeans strong rejected out over the town the booms from your bag. It's death trap should was on rap. You gotta get 'cause drams skipped a couple of lines but I could be wrong. Quick quick injection who you're making fun of me last year when Jackson for not knowing lyrics to songs that I know so Chicago's I don't WanNa live without your love came on eighty eight <hes> where the song starts with thought would matt who if we didn't stay together that's how it is <hes> in the car me Danielle Oliver and I went should've known and then he's singing and Oliver deal. You didn't get one word right not what and I had tears years in my eyes because I I missed not one not done and it's your favorite band an my favorite song from that Abbott. You've heard that song probably a thousand times yes yes shouldn't a better is a Kenny loggins buddy <hes> Richard Marc such a mark full disclosure not buddy. I love him. I'd welcome it. I love musically and I love him on twitter. Love got new album. Coming out of here does too great. You mentioned that last week we a lot of the show is in the players club. Wasn't it okay well then shut up all right so he just born to run which year at our version which was strong dancing the dark courtney cox girl gets up there go ahead Rosalita oh great song great song. I should know that you might not you might know it is the title that version sucks Meatloaf yeah well again. That's my inability ability to sing properly. <hes> never mind. It's not working by the way still not one song from probably as big as album born the attention to the Dirk arocca tenth avenue freeze out grates on. She's out the classic new shout. That's a cover causes it out with Foreign Bobby Gene Pool this guy he wants to make that he hayseeds his main thing is like fuck Mitchell imagine if somebody he said you'll get an extra tickets springsteen you want to my favorite you go. You know I've never seen I'M GONNA go and it's that you're getting to imagining how hard I'd be trying to hang in with it. When when it's completely foreign to me is is giving me like stomach actually check that after like song eighteen? Probably I mean the first seven I'm struggling with that. You've just got in there and you're like well. There's GonNa come. Obviously this is for the fans. If I got a free ticket I would go but if I if I were choosing to go see Bruce Springsteen I would look at that go. I shouldn't go to the show. That's called the river remained since what year that I went. I wish I guarantee that list up in four hours. Even as music lovers do you you WanNa go and his concert because you love music and not even really like live music live music lovers. Do you WANNA see us show. That's that many tracks that many songs is that appeal to you or if it's the band that I like yeah. This is your favorite band. Absolutely I don't know if I can is still going. I love live shows. I can't be there. I don't think especially if it's standing I can't I don't really understanding shows them an old man. I'm sitting comfortably in a seat on the island in front of you. Stand up. Nobody Matt. I sit on the aisle so I could look down the aisle. That's interest. That's my that's my the trick. Although now that I'm bringing Oliver more shows I put him on the also he can do that so that I'm stuck behind that herbon still here the songs buddies you don't have to see every second you can just close your eyes seated venue. I get real. I'm very very very very upset about him so that you like so that would appeal that many songs would not necessarily tertia I would. I don't think I would have been happy at that show. No No springsteen van probably that show it was for the fans and him and good for them to sit in fact that guy that's exactly what behind you don't want to be in front of him. I think three sixty degrees. I'm back that bubble. That's Great Donna her is here. We're thrilled that he's taken time out of his life. He's a Tory comedian. He goes all over the country making making me believe we are the pleasure Atlantic city together as well as the upper northwest pretty onyx city Jamaica <hes> pretty tunnel they you and I right now but a set list together of the songs he didn't do go how this show was there. Even there might not have been. I don't know well enough but there might not even been any song from a solo album on that. Let's let's all east band. Wrecking ball might be from Solo like I don't know anything about the Guy Kinda damned if you do have you done that situation where it's like you just play the hits the fan the real fans are like he just played the heads and then you guys have guys like matter August fairweather fans and Chicago is they fall into that they the second they do an album track they see the entire audience got up and go to the bathroom and whereas the thirty longtime fans are they can you do this and then they they say the payoff is not worth it and so they so then the fans bitch other on the same settlers they've been doing for the last ten years well if they don't they stirred at but when I talked to Tommy Shaw sticks that time at the Greek which was nice enough to say Oh <hes> they opened with the new song so that the energy is is there people because if they go here's a new one I said well what have you did it in the middle of show you that it and then say oh by the way that was new and he goes it's death. It doesn't matter where we put it in the set. It's death <hes> it took me way too long to realize growing up when I go to concerts concerts a lot and then leave him to like my friends and I would complain like they only played new stuff and it's like yeah dipped shit their touring that new album like they're mostly. They're gonNA play that and it's way too long to realize there's so many bands. Don't do that sticks. They're they're doing three from the new album on the which about a euro but Chicago does not I mean it is well. Doesn't it depends partly on how how long the band is because that's the thing you if you love a ban. You have to see them. In the maybe second third album tours the perfect perfect window time because then they have to play old stuff because they don't have enough others to play but they're going to get the news and if you like them the new stuff is probably also good but if you if you see them twelve albums in the new stuff probably isn't GonNa be the best stuff enough and there's GonNa be a rehash which might be alright. You might like you might like warmed over version of the idea. They had twenty years ago right now. If I really like an album because I stream everything sometimes if I like the end of the year I liked I look at all the albums I really really liked and I'll you try to buy those on vinyl but more importantly even that is if I really liked an album that year I will try to go see that person because I know that they're gonNA probably play much of that stuff so it's like well. You probably only have that one chance to see that whole Amado that's why yeah I understand what's interesting about. Bruce springsteen apparently said his set list isn't stat. It's it's not the same right like it changed because he some of these things are listed as a sign request sounds to me like some of the audience is holding up a sign that he does do that when he performs like in Australia. He'll do staying alive by the B._G.'s like he'll do cover songs like he that's right he played Lord in and he played <hes> royal line. I don't know if it was off a sign. I think it was because he was in Australia and he was like share and this is like when that album had come out it was it was knew it was on the charts and everything and to me. The funniest is that that's on goes. We could be royals. You can call me Queen Bee. That's the lyric he changes into King. Be Why so afraid that he does that adequately. He's the boss you can take you. Take the boy out of Jersey where you can take the Jersey out of the probably. Did it change it to be then yeah. Measure the Shitty. I would get on the Internet all right. I have another Elliott something in in this outlets. Do you want to hear it really fast from Sir. This is from two thousand seventeen are going seventeen all right really fast Darlington County working on the highway glory days days don't like it actually don't like Johnny Ninety nine <hes> prove it all night my level not let you down out in the street hungry heart. You know that one sit my city. Everyone's wrecking ball the river youngstown American skin forty-one shots promised land candies room because the night again the rising. That's a good one bad Rosalita that Santa Show on court backstreets born to run dancing that ARC tenth avenue freeze out shout how Bobby Gene Thunder Road Solo Acoustic final saw. That's a good thing that's seventeen songs that I knew so that set and I knew the last one five yeah you gotta go and roll the dice yeah well. It would have been happy although I don't know if I want to hear Acoustic Thunder road but I like that song. That's a at least ending on a song I know for sure you take this request. Please bring the band backup does read the <music>. Garin says he would go see an acoustic good well. It wasn't that that was on Broadway was him acoustic. was I have no idea with that. That's what it is. I'm buying that minal here so Netflix. He's still don't let someone who listen to see it. You gotta look at his face as he tells the stories yeah. I don't know if that was all coup stick. I never occurred to me. I think it's just a stool telling stories and signifant God that does sound like it should be the best way too at the end of the day singer songwriter point. That's good point. Jimmy's buying a ticket you'RE GONNA go. Oh no no I want to go the Broadway shows over to just as well listen if that do if he came to the Amish and he could do three months that show here just like he did on Broadway it would be a huge success would be if now if he did that show in L._A.. I would yes I would go see that for sure but Matt I think I know I love theater. I think I know what sign and you need to bring if you go to a regular Bruce springsteen concert I don't know the song and he'll skip. Here's your sign. I'M GONNA go bill angle up on his draw. The little like two triangles like go. It's all right track button rectangle slow and you could be mad if he would have to tip is gap to that ingenuity. I want to hug. 'cause you want me to extract all right. Let's take a break Donner's. Here looks like you came in empty-handed. I guess a baby backpack which on something like that just like one of those water pouches camel now there is a water bottle inside and their sunscreen stay protected the snack. 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There's no unnecessary graphics theatrics yeah it's kind of quaint kind of like what television used to be or got like hyper capitalistic and competitive hundred hundred degree so but I've seen stuff on there where it's like just a panel discussion on some stage at like Paly fast labs and it's like the production value isn't really much but it's interesting people talking which is why I feel like we could probably we would fit like even Elliott's current setup could fit right into their the. Let's go. They don't WanNA swearing on their clean it up for some some beeps on there certainly bring playing games over there some loops we can go on after that Gabriel Union program. They got that yeah that's weird. They have all this like local programming and then they have one T._v.. Show that looks like a high budget. Cop Procedures Spin off yeah. It's based on the movie bad boys but it's two women yeah. She was in the movie right gave her same character. 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Enroll Classic Bill Clinton Path Arthritis went to Harvard and they went to Yell Law School. I think boy and he was also wasn't he. An Oxford or whatever is of yeah like he did a year at Oxford or something I see Rob Lowe had the extra blues I I actually it was weird. It fell to me to cheer them. Up is really down the dumps. Can you talk to him. I was like I'll do my best. I don't know what I what I can say but did it worked out. I told him I really liked him in youngblood. You've never heard anyone say of course has this show with him and his kids cancelled. They do that again. What the show with problem his kid? You're the only kidding version of the room that I thought you want. I know that ever watched were they travel around looking at ghosts and shit. Wow the real they it's not it's not scripted right. Well Reality Reality Show. We're him and his kids drive investigate haunting U._F._O.'s and stuff. That sounds like a youtube channel really entertaining show. I really liked it. Rob Lowe show with the guy from Wendy years got cancelled. The grinder grinder was great one of the best one season and done game show an hour or something and so as Fred Savage talking about Oh rob Lowe Isu- that's right the guy from one years and I thought because I have not seen an entire trailer for that game for its avid show yet. I've always seen that like the tail end of it. I thought it was a show about a game show hosted by this guy which is a great idea. It's a IT'S A it's basically talking dead about a fake show. It's not a real game job with Fred Savage's. Which Games are you talking about? Whatever the show that Fritz evidence do well? He does the one with Ricky surveys which is a game show the kids thing the kids thing and then he's got this new thing on Fox which is basically a talk show that they've they packaged as as a fake. We're going to speak louder so after okay that's that's and then they had like they had rob lowe on to talk about that week's episode and it really it's not a bad idea where it's just a launching pad for them to then. Having Real Interview About Rob Lowe's career yeah but then it's like. Did you see this week but when they do that then it's really just bad acting going. Oh my God. What are you walk through the door? It's fast yeah that that seems like a to me. That just makes me want to turn it off because I'm like I don't get. I don't know what you're talking about like. You're not talking about anything you're talking about. Fake literally not talking about and I know that's ironic for the CO host of funny to complain but I still think that's turn off your new shows should be which game show you're talking about because you have so much gameshow knowledge do but there's people people that have more than I do <hes>. There's there's that game my buddy. John Richie can not all of them. Have the daily Blues. Thank you Donnie gets it. All guest you come in with the attitude on her. Maybe should do a seminar Matt Coach people on how to be a guest on Saturday mornings at the learning center. Just come on down the learning. Here's another task Saturday you expect these hardworking working people to somehow carve out today in the middle of the week and obviously Sundays the Lord's what's left Saturday. We're not doing nights okay. After a long day you WanNa go home and is relaxing for the BOOB tube if they need it then. I'll do it that had you could you could host a how to guest on any podcast because that that class would be very very nobody would take because everything's great gust. That's a good point boy. There's a you listen podcast. People don't know how to interact with human beings at all either by the way I blame the guest one hundred percent of the time I also think you got to put it on the show in the formatting of the show in this format you really don't have the guest doesn't really have to do anything you guys drive. You know if you try to much then it'll be bad so other shows. I think it's important the format of that. Show the host like I know you're putting a lot on the guest but I think it's also on the host laying in bed. I think if you're a guest near interrupting the host all the time. Would you say you're not a good example man donahue series from <hes>. He's done stand stand up all right. Let's go around the horn. Let's talk about what's happening in the room. Garin Cockrel is over there the reason but that's about that Matt we alluded this off. The Air Garin sent a text message to the group text message over the weekend of a an <hes> an action figure from some movie that I what movie was <hes> Slumber Party massacre converted massacres finally getting into the action figure and COMECON exclusive by the way no. It's from cream factory so I so one could buy that the theoretically we should have that in studio well it will be available for purchase <hes>. I'll just show it <hes> Donnie on my phone so close to find okay calm down a lot of pressure on collapse time there. We go yeah that that look like that. I think it looks like Mr Party hairline. I don't know if it's not a spitting image of me but anyone who knows you would go. That's Jimmy part the blood on the face. I like that there is a power tool involved as well. That's why God like a handyman think about that part. Only only there was like a little Elliott shaped head. I'm sure sure fringe over there never not photoshop or whatever it's called figure swap that tool out for for one you've mentioned in the past belt sanders always a band saw right Mansa but you would not this is the kind of thing you would have said you used on someone's head like a big. I don't know what that that's an Auger. I WANNA say inaugur Okay and put it in a suit swap the clothing showing you can that stuff you buy those Michael's. There's there's a whole a whole world of <hes> of folks who customize action figures and so you could probably just by a suit Hemmitt. I don't think it's Kendall him anything. No one saying you're doing or maybe we just wanted to go to him. Why don't you just start wearing denim? Jackets in jeans. Carry Run inaugur with the red t-shirts makes more sense a lot easier. That's why did you think of you thought that Matt. I'm saying stuff for entertainment value. We're having to really need to take this class that you're supposed to teach. I don't know if I respect you as a teacher anymore. Well you know those who can do. You can't Dan do you can do. He's he's trying to get into the teaching mode the horrors of the respect all teachers and we love them completely necessary. Ask US her all right. Let's go back to Garin Cockerel Gary what whatever over the weekend with Garin Cockerel Chris with me on twitter Gary Cockrel Christian with re tweeted his review from pop culture beast and said thank you for such a lovely review. Oh wow very nice follow pop culture beasts and then I'm like why I get on this action so I made a comment like Oh Chris read my review for clamped or something and then she followed me. It's exciting. They're nice awesome good when that happens. I guess that's how many people just you follow. It's to Oh that's a good question. Three million bummed me out when somebody that I like. It's like this is somebody that she following me. It's like well maybe they don't follow anybody and they follow you know twelve thousand people. You're not twenty six hundred. That's not a lot. It's not a lot of one point two eighty million followers at all no not twenty six hundred I mean I wanted supportive to me. That sounds like a lot. It's a lot for for some other famous people but even so is she still choosing. It's more. Can you can look at I mean I guess we assume that most celebrities aren't reading their own time line but number more people than follow him. Remember that whole thing that happened to where he's he was the guy that's right yeah yeah where he just followed like forty thousand people in one weekend or something and it was like what's going on they do that like I don't even know if that's physically possible on his whoever team that's gotta be automated. It's also it's awesome power. Do you get to US reading digs at any time point six degrees of <hes> all right so that happened Garin some excitement with that yeah I saw the Farewell Beautiful Ni- loved it I was I'm not going to even there. Were some tears evolved so great amazing. The premise of this. It's <hes> Aquafina grandmother is there. She's dying and no one is telling her the grandmother so she doesn't know she's dying and in this family all get together for of wedding so we can see her but she doesn't know it and it's about struggling with that which I guess is a custom in China to bring show Mike Show. It's a beautiful movie scene is amazing played grandmothers amazing. It's yeah I I can't speak to anyone else. WHO's GonNa like it but I I would have watched again immediately really didn't you? We'll have to go. I see your life was late at night. GotTa go check twitter Geno showed up what other lady abroad which following me wonder if a Dina's picked up. Maybe they had a conversation this new guy he's a beast. They give me a great review one of those he didn't go see <hes> Lion King No. Are you going to yeah eventually led. I just don't well. I'm excited it. Wait for it. If somebody in this room sought who thought match saw the Lion King Matt Congratulations Matic there was a lot of talk that I had no interest in it but only Scott tickets to a screening so that's a bullseye for me zero question Garin. Maybe anybody knows. Are these movies coming out at a faster clip than when they originally came out the distance in between them. You know what I'm trying to say like. Did you know because because is Lincoln came out two months after Aladdin this year but in nineteen ninety two I think it was a year who is like two years between Aladdin and lion king was the lead between them. No I think it went Aladdin then Lion King like ninety to ninety dollars came out this year to right wow yeah so this was a real dagger. Those movies a little bit how many years releasing the original Aladdin Lion King and beauty and the beast beauty the beasts came out in ninety or eighty nine Aladdin came out in ninety two and then and then line came up ninety. They're getting spoiled too. Much fantastic also run out in like two years to only directed V._H._S.. Last time maybe this time it gets remain the return of Jaffar I like. I like the idea there turnage if they did they did it better that would be really kind of cool to see a live action version of that because Jaffar like an evil evil genius but there's an interesting article. That's floating around or now about how all a lot of Disney villains are queer coded yeah which means they're technically can be seen as l._G._B._T.. And their stripping that from the movie versions which makes the characters less fun like Jaffar people were mad that they thought that they you know they cast Melissa McCarthy as Ursula <hes> in in Little Mermaid and they thought that should have been like a drag queens should have been cast because the apparently the original or slow was sort of inspired by drag queens or drag queen culture. It's hard it's hard to win that because there are also people who because the villain is it's clear coded say gay people are bad. You have to in order to counter that. You'd have to have somebody who isn't bad who was coding as well. You wouldn't have to but yes there. You're opening yourself up to a criticism but also Melissa. McCarthy is an actress who can play that. Why is that not a good thing right that that would be a lot Scarlett Johansson? Playing an Asian woman is something that she purple tree so possibly animated right well because it's going to be it's going to be she technicals Philadelphia. She'll be partly C._G.. I should people lost their mind when they cast a black Ariel. So who knows what's going to happen for this. Well some people that's the thing with everything some people lost their mind and then some people lost their mind with excitement and so it's always they know that now and it's stories and they can make anything they want right. It's not care lives on the side historical historical documentary yeah but <hes> so the lion king two thousand nineteen. I don't particularly the original I hate the idea of live-action remakes. I don't like <hes> Elton John Tim Rice music and I think the concept concept of photo real animals talking and singing is absurd and you know what I really liked. It's actually pretty good like I buy expectations. Were very low but I I actually think it Kinda worked. It was it was it was it should have been my big thing was like how is this gonNa make any sense. I just don't think I'm going to buy it from the get-go but right right out yet. It was like yeah I buy it. I'm good I'm in the kids liked it. Well Charlie didn't like it but he's like anything. Give me please give me travelers review. You would listen for the video fans. I saw that with my own. Is your thumbs down two thumbs down Charlie. That's Charlie BELKNAP students down system. Yeah Wow yeah he didn't want to go. You know he's sect himself out of liking it because he was like I don't WanNa go. I'm like well. We're going so and we need in like yeah but he wasn't GonNa like it and I talked to him a lot. About how the it's you have to have the right attitude in life especially in new food trying new that worked the other way with me with breaking away when I because I didn't WanNa go and my parents my momma stepped over like that's what we're doing. It's it's raining so we can't go to great America Org. We're going to go to a movie today on our vacation. I was like I don't WanNa go to a child and then went and it is now my favorite movie so did the exact opposite but I've also I've been that guy. I'm not gonNA enjoy. This happened to me as well as an adult. We went to see ragtime and I'm like I. I don't want this is before I was gonNA musicals like no. I don't want to do this. I don't WanNa go to this is going to be stupid. What am I doing wasting my night doing this? When I'd be sitting on my couch loved it loved it to the point where I went with Jason? He's like well. I'M GONNA WE'RE GONNA. We're going to go now. It's intermission with. Let's go what I want to go in then we was so he didn't like it. I don't know if I don't remember if you like it or not but he wanted to relieve pissed off because I didn't want to go so bad well if you like it. We're Outta here now. Bush doesn't relationship well. Luckily that really dramatic lasted twenty years the good thing that passengers now I'm all in to that and we got a text where you over the weekend as well that you saw Miss Saigon Yeah and high praise. I loved it but I haven't seen a lot but you know I loved it. It was it was great now. The main lead the girl she plays Kim yeah incredible great all right. I made the statement that she might have the best performance. I've seen period in a show what she's like a you've saw Hamilton. She was that good she's I could. You saw doozy Hedwig I I did have you saw. How do we saw Durham and Hanson <hes> I did not you're not cry handsome? Now what I think you owe you loved it before you saw it the cast recording but because the play the musical itself makes all of those songs irrelevant <hes> like their meaningless because everything's ally spoiler sorry <hes> so kind of takes it away. I don't add I don't agree that. The plot makes the songs lungs ally. They're still actual emotions yeah but it's not nothing as real spoiler as a first boy. I don't know if spoil that don't I disagree with you. He saying you shouldn't spoil oil that. I'm saying you're wrong. That's right now. I ruined something you give away plotline but he you know that right off the bat. Okay I take my anger at the weather. That's kind of reveal. Yes that's like if there were a movie trailer for that. Would they would be listening to the Castro Gordon because none of that right dialogue is there which drives me crazy. That's crazy. Garin set up for himself and shutdown Jimmy historically noisy guaranteed. When does it happen? Blackstone even faced what what are we talking about the last five minutes that happened. I'm not aware of it. Man Matt Donner Series Targets on episode of my paycheck spoiler you're done. That's how it's GonNa Happen. Yeah Good Point Guard show up next week. Why won't the BUZZER in the door? What's going on? Here is blocked so I agree with them. I there's been shows that I can't think of one of where I enjoyed the cast recording so much that when I finally saw the show it let me down so and I didn't have the emotional because when you're doing that you're it's almost like a book where you're visiting your way and so you were hearing those songs a certain way and then when you put it together with what you saw. It didn't click for you yeah I didn't. I didn't dislike it. It didn't have the emotional resonance it's all right yeah. You may be still have the songs yeah yeah I I. I've been saying for years now that I think that all cast recordings should come with the script so that you can read the story along with the music and understand what the songs mean because it's very frustrating to not know the the story and you're just kidding snippets and like other than things like Hamilton which are sung through the you. You really don't understand what's happening in most likely you're supposed to buy it after you see the show you originally enjoy it and the out and get the in the old days I understand that but like now we live in a world where something opens on Broadway like the rest of the world can listen to the cast recording the day it comes out. I guess it's always been that way my apologies Jimmy taken on both sides no but I agree with you that like most people wouldn't buy a cast recording of a thing they didn't see in the old days but now it's like you go on apple music or spotify and use the listen to whatever's out and like it would be helpful to know what's going on. I know they don't want people. They don't want to spoil it per se but or they don't want you to not go to the show because you have experienced but that's not the same thing you're not gonna go see the show just because you read the script I on the other side. I don'