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Kirk Minihane's Achievements Are Unquestionable

The Kirk Minihane Show

1:56:31 hr | 1 year ago

Kirk Minihane's Achievements Are Unquestionable

"<hes> let's get into it. I am in the mood. I'm in a goddamn motherfucking mood today. Man i post shut up shut up. I really love moron and i've taken a shit from enough people last couple of days for no fucking reason we're gonna go down the list of fuck us today on ing but nobody cares what you're dumb mini-fever mike he knows even though some funding arguments fuck up just wanna prove on the list as well fuck no. Why would i do what i do what's going on. Why are you sorry lamey. Emme wasn't benefits. Shut the fuck up. Everyone shut the fuck up. Jesus christ on fucking unfunny believable. I don't even know where to start work our way down. I don't even alphabet quick because i don't even know where we'll do it. In order what pisses me off the most for the most most of the least of what at least to most work your way up yeah yeah okay pissed off most we'll just see roman first and then we'll let my missing anything else anything else going on your world guys everything good. Yeah yeah always go for good good ready for the trip tomorrow. Oh yeah interesting should be weird for you know strange so you know troll socks jumps on board and they go what sixty six thousand percent the first day they advertise with us men and what was the tweet i saw yesterday from golfer prostate crash their website say the minute fans crashed their website. Okay so you know we have. Our brain wasn't affected by that right. Our brand is still okay. I have not done concern about the kirkman show brand because that's not dushi. All the brand is good right. I haven't been feeling any calls from advertisers about rand. I just worry about the brand. I wanna make sure that brand is good so even though oh uncle chaps wait in and tried to hurt our brand. It didn't affect people trying to raise money for cancer right now. Okay good i just want. I don't want to affect anybody's brand. I just wanna make sure right. <hes> we're good. 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Let's stay out of as much trouble as we can be as boring as part you know. Can we talk a rod today. Be as you know as crazy as possible right now. Which one is it not pussies not pussy crazy but take it. It's okay good yeah and we don't want to but if we're pissed off at somebody else we immediately go to the boss right. Look we don't address witter. I twitter then we don't address the actual people but who we might have an issue with us trying to get my rules straight here i. I don't know what's going on here for a couple of months. You know everybody in what point do. I threatened to shove my dick down their mouth. I like where i'm trying to figure out how it works around here. Still we could have done that a month ago. I don't know if somebody threatens you. Didn't they okay because why because i made fun of him. Okay okay willie cologne. 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Oh it did good yes excellent so that's chaps kate and is that just the two of them co captain concsious curious captain. I believe he is oh yeah. We'll see yeah well dig into. I've heard he's a terrific guy. I'm li- like ketu seems very nice and whatever i._m._a._x. You chaps. I talked to him again yesterday. After i was off to be fair i haven't heard their virtue chap seems very sensitive and i talked to him after i was with k._f._c. yesterday and i said you know in retrospect aspect i guess we could have checked in with him during the process and said hey listen miserable be you're in the military. I don't know that came up. You should have done like you should have gone. According to him yeah capture kapchar and <hes> we could have i said that to him and he's like well and then he brought up the how he's getting tweets from the mini vans and i'm just like i don't win the fucking military really care for much of people tweet at you and this is the thing with willie everyone nobody can handle that part of it when it play these fucking idiots in dc later in the show the tubing's pussies ever heard my life if they can't handle the that's what it comes down to. We can handle it well. I think also get it also the difference barstools. I feel like maybe people think like your fans are going not a lot of people that they bring in have have their own legion of fans already. You know what i'm saying. None of their used to like the stool lease were all kinds of one group and then the fans are sort of a different group that have but who went okay but in this particular battle right the albright battle who went outside of the barstool world the coup attacked. You know what i'm saying like. Where did the traps dropped the crack. We didn't go to anything. I've only promoted their podcast. I don't even to the extent that i assume that's why. I asked if you've talk to him. I thought you guys were friendly. In some respects i always see between yeah. I don't know i just i mean you know. I don't listen to it but it seems like it's nice in the military and whatever some is an american american and frankly. I don't get into this much as veteran <hes>. I'm nobody can book my nobody's looking at my service gives a fuck. You stumped <hes>. When what do you mean. I'm just i was just curious. I was just freeze. Oh seven oh nine twelve. I'll show you the w sixteen dash eight form if you want seventy six kills okay fucking skins in my my house. I've got fucking. Kill people at crazy. You'll show me the forms though yeah. I mean like six to eight weeks. I'll show it to your belief the guys i talked to yesterday who we're gonna back me up. I'm going to tell you about that later. Okay later. I'm gonna tell you all about it. We're gonna now. It's fine. Fuck fuck jesus christ another piece of shrapnel now. It's not that snow football injury okay for would you would you play colorado cutler university in the state yeah pretty good yup not say at the university of played in the state the folk play football there yeah like in high school i mean i'm on the phone number lawyer like i got three thousand but i mean yeah. I played football lot oil oil. You would sue me if i is that right. Yeah who knows what did. I played football. I was just asking after my dad's not played like five twenty six tackles and the game like right right during the funeral yeah so i only get into that kind of a big star. That sounds fishing. But what do you mean. I what what what the fuck did. You say you know what i'm calling portnoy right now with the fuck. Did you say thanks so. Does your blog thirty people weighed in so i talked with chaps in k._f._c. yesterday. I thought it was fine. K._f._c. good job moderating a discussion and you know like the the core. Thank you keep saying that we heard this. Your blog thirty brand which i don't even think is true. So whatever what would that look like. I don't even know hurt the brand. They're going to sell fewer t shirts occurring. There will be like if i said they're fucking podcast sucks. You know don't listen to them which i'm not doing. I've done quite the opposite since i got here as a matter in fact listen to them download into the one today where they dump on us. It sounds like i haven't heard of yet. Go listen to it and i said to him yesterday. Why can't it just be and i think i said on this show yesterday. Why can't you be he goes in his podcast. He goes on case. He calls us out. Dave does the same thing if he disagrees with us and we do the same thing if we disagree with them and we all just disagree with each other and then it goes away and then we go on into our thing what am i what am i missing the. They should be able to dump on you but you shouldn't respond why because i was just because you haven't been here that long sir aw well okay. I mean definitely a little bit of seniority going on right yeah. Yeah cops brings that up in the podcast he was he was the twenty first person hired are really say so. He's well the other thing is. I don't want this to be a thing because it's almost bores me like but i like. Is that what we're doing because i don't give a fuck doc. I don't care i'm here. They're paying me. I'm guessing more than him. I'm here like i i'm gonna do my show not going to sit there and say oh yeah i got here. Whatever may of two thousand in one thousand nine hundred shops was here in nineteen. I don't think he was saying that. I think you're saying barstools a big company now. There's two hundred fifty employees. I was employee number twenty one so that's how much it's grown over the. That's different yeah by the way i have. I haven't heard this yet. You guys have because that's the minimum one in fucking linked honestly getting mad at this morning because i'm fucking crazy but like they can shit on us all day all night. Now we might fight back but that would never ever complain and be like hey they should on this like i did that that instinct and blaming the place i used to work at happened all the time where people on there we'd go and complain the a minute handed this he should do this. It's supposed to fighting back. We're having a conversation and reaching <music> out texting or calling i don't get i thought it was coming to a place. It's totally different realize. It's almost exactly the same except you can say fuck. You know what i mean that that that seems to be it so far so i don't say fucking radio dot com now to me. We have sounded out later. It's really something it must be enjoyed visually though as yesterday okay so all right so this is a uncle chaps kate and captain con- yeah okay. Let's hear from <hes> these three <hes> talented broadcasters. Please let me hear this but that being said kirkman hens show they do a little more investigative type stuff which is typically not what barstool really does unless there's a humorous undertone to it this. They have a an ongoing ongoing beef with an n._f._l. Writer and radio host named benjamin albright who works out of denver and has broken news stories and he's just like twitter dude well. Some some people don't like ben. Some people do like he is very much like a lynch pin. Kinda guy like where you or you hate them and that's just the kind of way send a lot of interesting. I mean interesting. It might be that we have already gone over. The interesting actually comes from kate. Kate actually accuses us of having blackmailed benjamin albright does she did she do it in a way that's gonna piss me off and i took it. I don't know you'll take it. I took it as she didn't really know certainly certainly didn't listen to our show before doing this or she didn't know the full store well. That's a good way to do but we'll okay good to just wild move to email him and be like it was almost like in a blackmail he kind of way the way that kirk show did it that i really just didn't like that's it. I can keep going on. I thought you want to react to that part. What can you i mean. She doesn't know she doesn't know the story clearly k. we were looking into your background and we looked into the army records and we don't think you served the way you said you did like don't ever do that to a veteran and if anybody ever does that to you as a veteran you. Don't anybody anything you know what you did you. She's right perhaps to prove yourself okay. Nobody knows nobody. Does anybody anything. No i mean the guy told me to fuck off. If that's blackmail then every single journalist journalists ever tried to confirm the details of the black man black mailing is if you don't meet five hundred thousand dollars in the shaking him down for us about blackman see those emails. I think pretty confused about blackmail by with were missing. This whole story is like. I'm ready to move on from albright himself. He's a fucking lunatic. Take i mean he just is that. It's retweeting brian ritchie. Oh this is what kind of guy you're dealing dealing with. Pornos ready to fire steve over a guy like that. I'll ah yesterday he's crazy. He's retreating saying. I don't know if this guy's racist not so. Where's the fence on that like. Where's the where's the defending defending steve for being called a racist just because steve told reach show that was at the somerville thing right. Yes were you know the the u._s. Lunatic work for obviously sarcastic. This fucking guy albright takes that was that was saying that sing sees a racist is okay asking questions about somebody's not like where what what do we do which is okay in which isn't i. I talked to my guys at headquarters and if steve didn't take that honeymoon he would have enough days that they would have defended them for that. Okay good yeah. I'm trying to figure out. I was number number two hundred forty seven so for me i can't i can't say a word yet like i can't. I can't hang out with the guys in new york. The fucking worst the worst thing in the world anyway now some people dream i like doing this. I don't care. I wanna be friends with any any of them. I don't give a shit about that. I don't want to be part of their crew. That doesn't matter to me but you know that there's sort of streak of that. I don't know i mean so they say anything else. That's semi interesting. Captain khan was kind of on our side. He saw that you know. He looked like he'd looked into the story a little bit more but i actually actually thankfully private i don't mean to the army hasn't got back yeah. I don't mean to be addicted. We've been doing some digging yeah. I don't mean to be an asshole but you know he kinda. I'll l. say this if he doesn't give me seventy five thousand dollars fucking to tell the truth today. That's a new one. Black male is asking questions and there's a whole new definition blackmail. Kay told me yeah black male is when you email some of the you're working on this subject about it and ask them questions in do it off the record and privately publicly seat beat in make no threat at all make no threat at all for money and in no way threaten them. That's black i'll have to this isn't the first time i've engaged in blackmail then yes every journalist america. No no no no. That's blackmail when you say to somebody. Give me a million dollars. Cut your fucking head off. Is that's blackmail. You're fine now. Don't worry about good so you can go to headquarters and try and do that for yourself. Make a living there you go by the way silence from from everybody barstool. I'd text erica two days ago. Evan heard a word not a word still. I guess that's a good thing there who knows the morning. Oh yeah no shit talk. Save your fucking job steve. I mean there's no question that yeah. There's doesn't people who texts but that's not that's not even like not even and by the way god bless you stella by the way <hes> portnoy in who knows me. Forty stores will come out today. Porno sent me on the phone. He's like this is gonna be much bigger than francis a story that was like well. I don't know and and albright's blocked everyone so i don't see his side. Am i missing the boy boy. Did he misjudge how irrelevant steve rahm never so then albright nice marriage if irrelevance. I would say i would say but you were before that. You said you were doing some digging. In the mccain you had found out that he wasn't a prisoner of war can't believe that's true steve. Let's see are more about this. Big expose expose yes. We're going to dig up his body and yell these. These accusations steve one after the laura hillenbrand the writer of the louisiana any book. I mean this guy in the military military his incredible but no blackmail no no no. Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Oh god these fucking people man and i honestly like i don't even i can't even get mad at them. They whatever like they don't. We do a different thing than they do. We actually do a different show. Everybody worked. We're actually looking at steve steve robinson's. I say this where too dangerous borstal like we we actually are so. We'll just continue to do our show until they say i don't know what else we can do anymore. I i don't you know want to have a fucking auntie from the fucking bachelor. You wanna have <hes> who some some fucking terrible actor. Wha what should we do well. We should do a week of things title. Please headquarters. Would that be talks. Talk some sports with a little. I don't think we can invest gambling that right right we can't we can't investigate the big papi situation because that's probably corrobos knowing than writing that might damage his brand. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be blackmailing them on that stuff. Absolutely not black male is of of course when you threaten to untie somebody sneaker fucking walk on the highway in either fucking sandwich. I guess because the definition of the word is totally changed so i don't even know anymore. The other thing that kind of bugs me is mike. Clancy and zebdine both investigations. This is something that the kirkman show does no actually actually see they don't though and i don't this is where i don't blame either one of them like they just nobody knew in bowie. It's like we're going to do this. We'll constantly do this. I've done it in the past like it's not we don't usually really do this shit but you know when it comes up do it but i don't know go ahead well. I'm just saying if we if we see a piece of journalism that looks suspicious. We'll look into it but they admit that we do investigations. It's kind of we're the only ones that barstool doing that and then they proceed to tell us in a misinformed way how we should have gone about the investigation in no not as much kevin but the people saying like oh oh. What did you just call up the army. You didn't even have a social security number. No i worked with a twenty-five your n._c._o. Who's in public affairs said this is how you have to go to get public records. They were misinformed formed on this to where they don't know about they did it. They think that he actually has a brother that served in the middle. Well did not do them right by the way so this is so there's these family until about one o'clock today when the bomb falls or no pun intended how all right how much money do i have to prevent that information now. I know ryan my checkbook out. Let's do this full cologne. Fucking open it up by that. I mean you know is ben. You reached out to ben this morning so get your affairs in order because the shit's helmand after now yeah it's not gonna be good. It's not going to be let me hear it. Let me hear this and one last thing about about that like saying. I reached out to army. This isn't mother. These are my friends. I reached out to army one p._e._o. Did you have the social security eddie number dude because that's how they file things away. That's wrong. All you need is a birth. Date in the full name doesn't matter who cares under saying misinformed about what we're doing and they're dunking on us us in laughingly these guys what they think they're doing. They say it's only almost can respond there and they just do different. I don't know let them do their thing. But that's my point. Let them do their thing. We do ours equipped the again you know. I don't like israel like you know. You should have thought of our brand like honestly no. We're doing our show. We're doing the best show we can and we're trying to help our show and we help our show help barstool. That's that's what you do so these should be doing. Another thing they said was like didn't didn't they think like they should come to like. If they were looking into some of the military they should come to us. How should we go about. I don't think that's an unreasonable point like i'm only unfair point. I said that to to chester. You know we did that again. Not unfair but it's also you guys don't know each other well. We all know him at all and i don't think of them like they don't think of me. We're doing our show every day and i never stopped at the g with uncle chapstick of this. I think we did talk at some point affair about bringing chapson but bring him in to help us do the investigation was more his perspective which we would have done you know if we might but you know i mean there's also is not the only person to serve in the military will yeah. He's made it pretty clear that you know like you'll be happy to dump on us when we're in when he thinks he's happy like he literally corresponded with with albright first albright went to him he then shit on us and went to port knowing complain about it like these are the things that happened. These are all facts important only got red ass about it and threatened threaten the fire steve and i don't know what changed after that steve pride poison. The fucking dog truck probably killed it. Which you know i mean he did say i gotta rundown anti i'll probably be back by the end of the year that but you know it's like i you know these things happened. These guys don't know what we i do and that's fine like they. Just we just do a different show than everybody else. There does and that's it. You know if we're going to continue obviously have issues like this is over. This story's fucking over but there'll be other stuff like this. We're not going to stop doing what we do. Talk investigation just what we do and it's gonna piss off. We pissed off cologne for some reason. We've pissed off these people people. We've pissed off for some reason you pissed off alone but it was a joke. Start is a fucking joke like he doesn't you know so in whoever else is we're going to piss off other people down. This is just what we do. I don't you know i said yesterday. I think with clancy is the only person i think the whole fucking place other than us. Fucking understands it who gets it is chemically yeah or maybe that's show casey ankara's. Probably they do as well right. I mean they're in filo bergen their world right they don't you know they understand <hes> <hes>. Oh you know i mean i don't. I don't really understand what you know why we continue to run into these problems. We're not really doing anything these people legitimate they think in their minds beef with us fine but like the cone stuff and the other stuff just like we're just doing our fucking show like what you can go. Come back in us. Being actually mad had is fucking crazy we got we got some more manorama to talk about. Yes thank you can go there. You go and what what a bombshell for me at the top for the interview yesterday. I can't believe i mentioned that to him. Oh that was oh how about that. I didn't love that manages sweater vest and <hes>. I got to tell you this. Fucking novel is going to be tree. Men deuce writing. Would you rather be. I think part of why some people like me because i met i it's embarrassing. I bring it up. What are you writing about eating. Hear me talk about it. I don't remember i mean. I think it'd be more embarrassing if you weren't working on a book. What what do you mean like isn't working on a book but i think i'm talented like my book will get published and sell kimberly coughing like yelped question. Oh okay yes no question no question it's specially the name. I have the non-defense kim rear it. No no not until the pub hotoke micon it is yeah well. The female perspective very talk inner. It should be my jimmy my content and main character. It is set in what set over time mike it's zet over sixteen year span from eighty two to ninety eight. It's said heavily in the world <hes> the music scene of the early eighties. That's all say it's wrong with that. That's cool man. It's actually not that kinda book. It's not it's not. It's actually not pretentious. Pipe that you smoke way to yeah. I mean i would read it a tweed jacket. It's very it's i am. I am proud of that. I'm working on it. It's a fine that's fine. I would read it because you have to actually. She is a hobby pretty much. You're kind of like stephen king where you've got like fucked up enough mind that whatever comes out of it but it's not but it's not yes thank you but it's not it's not hard though it's it's yeah i know but as well it'll be it'll be it'll be a sub-conscious. Peer in kirkman has a little bit. I'll say this it's a little bit of a love story about two people who could never really fall all of this a little bit of that to you like that all right. I win a little bit softer you writing. That story might be different than that. Though so i guess wish not right i mean what do you do all fucking dead and smoke your pot. Like what are you. Where did that come. What do you do all of your character served. Just get high bro. What's that have any of your character serve. No somebody like i said somebody who served like i find it disrespectful to then people who serve. I don't like too many brothers on the wall. I don't like to try that. I went down to the wall in d._c. With harry this summer i felt bad for him because he saw me breakdown with this name. My guys like i fucking. I collapsed that he was like seventies like but you weren't you were not lie might have been six months old at that point and i was so emotionally that i wasn't even answer. He said that's just a that's exactly yeah. I was like it goes <hes>. I'm gonna fucking sue. You know what you think boy but yeah i don't wanna i don't wanna talk about my service and i just i'm not i'm not there yet. Not there yet but i mean i had many many many kills medicare yeah as many as what our <hes> in what bore what do you mean the the the korean conflict oak yeah and then the one in <hes> nova scotia tell old you've been over scotia war from ninety seven hundred dollars well oh and then the one member remember the little mini civil war in oh six i was into the code is zero mares well. What was your what was your rank your highest rank third. I was ranked number four in the world and then i was six at one point then yeah it was top ten for like two years in a row. Okay not a big not a big deal but it's kinda true and i was the seventh guy on not six. I was the backup that was like there was a case of like broadway. One of the guys was hurt and i was. I was there that night like trump a lot like i don't yeah so rob o. News news like why he was he was i mean i like robin everything on he's one of my brothers but yeah well. We're not really ready to spill the investigation chirac. Here's the here's the thing like i was completely alone that night like it was just i flew the chopper. Yes pretty impressive. Is i mean i don't know i got to give a lot of credit to talk about. I give credit until people to put that together if there was other people but i kind of did the intel solo on that from the start i started working on it on september tenth tenth because iran so they made a movie about that yeah. I ju just as a friend of mine. She followed me around for like months playing you well. I don't want to be like a dick occurring but like i played like they sort of kathryn bigelow directed at them for good friends with her like i played her role totally and they sort of see her in oakland. I acted i wrote the script for that too okay. When did you say put a woman in <hes>. Did you have them. Put a woman and that's very progress yeah well. I mean again like catherine was like all wanna. Have you played this role at. You're one of the most natural actors ever seen in your really good writer like. I love your novels but i was like well. I think just give her a chance. Give her a break by played every character in that film. It's like when prince play instruments. I'm played every actor eddie murphy in the nutty professor yeah yeah pretty much yeah i kind of and i also i was also in another professor to like. I played the jacksonville bin laden's last words <hes> it was like you got me a yummy again brother like you got like we kind of always had a rivalry over the years ago. What what he called me again yeah 'cause i just sean no six. I clipped him. Yeah clip them over yeah. He was all you newry was leaves. It's zero zero. This family six now is traveling. I saw maoz. I got this is my chance and i was going to shoot him and then one of the one of the seals i was in the water hit me in my arm movement got him in the knee and chaman kneecaps but even then he was kind of like you gave me a sort of a tip of the the thing he had in his head and it was like you know we go the rivalry can sorta like heat but then you're chino which i which i wrote and like i'm friends with bobby now so that's sort of like a michael. It's sort of a whole wrote heat. Wrote yay wrote the red badger courage to why did the books about me right yeah okay yeah. I served in that war too. I was yeah service well eighteen twelve i was fourteen and so i was but i served in that to eighteen to gay yeah and i was in russell crowe that my character sort of gladiators based on to you just couldn't stop them from burn down the fucking white house and that was the fourth guy people don't know this <hes> apollo thirteen like they didn't show meal out my character but i was up there with those guys. It was pretty cool. I like space and everything so i mean like my military histories full and i have like forty hearts that are all the guy of a whole shitload of different colors dollars to oh yeah because i wanna rainbow heart to be like progressive and everything's requiem for choking bin laden death with your deck yeah well. That's the other thing is like bin. Laden's go wife and i had this whole thing going. He was kind of cool with it so it was we got very weird. We're doing like an eight part friendly with their families where you say i know you all qaeda spent some time with them but like to like infiltrate them kirk fucking in their deep for like two years donnie brasco eh yeah which is based on my life also by the way it seems like every we bring up well. Give me another movie. No way like i went to high school. I'll just give you an example one movie. It's like wow went to high school. Dancing was banned in my town yeah but then it wasn't so that happens to me but i'm not saying footloose is about me but it is about me. What the fuck you want me to say right like. What am i suppose to say. At that point town dancing winchester massachusetts banned totally yeah and all the nightclubs and winchester. Nobody can dance all those nightclubs there. I heard about that but i mean that's fine like whatever like i was in beverly hills for three years. I was a cop but like whatever what am i fucking. I supposed to do like okay fine like i was. I was on the desert and some wizard came by and was like your dad is his fucking like half robot figure in like you know i chopped his fucking arm off owns the fuck. George lucas comes around my house that you have any ideas for movies. The is that my fault and then like my alien buddy is hiding in my closet like great. What the what the fuck do you want me to do and saying. I guess that's all i mean what what the fuck fuck you you right. I mean what if she can do some digging on these. Is there any way tonight. Just i was on the military asshole yeah. So why would you dig then confused. We'll just some of the stories on unbelievable so she even but did you just hear what i just don't do that. That hurts my brand. You idiot all right. Well fuck. I just have a few questions that i wanna follow up on his that not not. I don't know why you do that. Why would the point that. I just like to make sure you weren't lying or anything. I mean again like i don't know like lying but what i have the fucking that hope diamond the my bedroom. Yeah i get like two hundred. That guy drew me that guidry me naked on the titanic would ever like my boyfriend was some asshole but like i started fucking this guy and he drew me in the picture and then i threw off a thing like so what okay and what's your point owners. How does that correlate. It doesn't really i could yeah missing something. I guess i'll just ignore ignore like i don't know what i'm gonna do. I'll personally think you're kind of liar for again but you won't pursue it. No i mean i don't wanna get in trouble trying to tom trying to do okay all right all right what else what sound fun but he didn't enjoy. I was impressed that you didn't go to the obvious. I was a janitor at harvard harvard and then we would you. Would you like to hear one more from zero. Blog caps kinda chops his last message wagging uh-huh finger a little bit got ear then i issue that i wanna really highlight is that i am wholly concerned about what been albright says or does right with her like that's not my concern at all. My concern is the only reason why i'm bringing it up on zee b._t. Is because does represent barstool. We are the military whistle sports anybody else getting in that realm. That's like jumping into my fucking pool. Don't okay whatever all right i mean. I've heard like enough. He had his moment he got to wag his finger for couple of days and now i understand that and then he he brought up the the kind of similar reference when i brought up yesterday he was. Obviously you know you can talk football. It's not jerry thornton's territory. You said that was awesome. Yeah it's kind of like why can't we talk about militant. I think we all the military's more important like it was. Who's questioning that like i don't and i think all of us would admit they would obviously know more more than us about it. They've all served. I presume look into it but i sure yeah whatever yeah i. I guess i don't even know yeah. They didn't really say anything particularly interesting. We hadn't heard yet. We'll they accuse us of blackmail. That was new kate. I don't know what she seems very nice nice. Do i'm not gonna win an argument with her but it's not blackmail. No no. It's not no but like. I don't think she really. I got the sense that she didn't really know the full. Just hearing matt she just saw a screen shot and out of context and said like why is this guy doing and that's my right. That's my other takeaways chessel. Thing is all the internet. This is how it works but then when he helped that happen oh no he's he's responsible for o- on that part completely portnoy and put it on. That's not even which is. Which is you know if if he wants to do that he can do it. You know then but then when you do that you then can't say cheese. Why are these people like you going after me like it doesn't work both ways like you know. It seems to me that'd be this happened. The people who like albright hate barcelona hated them before the people who hate albright eight him nothing changed. There's no differences there. It never changes which is let everyone go after whoever they want to go after. I don't even understand what yeah i don't even know what's left is particularly to say about. I mean i. I don't know i'm an album is just gonna continue screaming into the void veiled threats do something and then three days later won't happen knows a story will go way. We're going. We're moving on to other stuff often who continued to do his thing and people look get messages every day from people like he said this. This isn't true. He said this. This isn't true so that's the life he has to live. That's fine. I mean you know when you know unless i'm missing something and is there anything else not really. It was all pretty much what you talked about yesterday. The one thing i did find out is that like he's he invited you on his show but he wouldn't come on this show who shops yeah then. He went on k._f._c. right yeah because he because he didn't want to. I mean my feeling is probably gonna go one on one on my show. That's a harder harder situation than me going on his show. I guess he's with his people. I'm and i don't think he you know that's my guess or maybe just like fuck you either way. I sort of like i had an old old enough. This quite fits so i got capone in the thirties during got him got him like we brought him down me and my ban the untouchable so like okay my old buddy my jimmy malone now we'll direst cop and he is like you bring a knife he he brings knife. You bring a gun. That's the chicago way. That's kind of the way i've been more as a numbers guy. At ten on was more of a like an elliott elliott ness wasn't me i was sort of more of a law and order by the books guy okay yeah. My my buddy was attack skies well but we got capone so it's sort of like that right now. It's kind of like yeah. It's like my like. I'm sort of this guy in britain to who you sort of like a double o seven age. I've done a lot of that stuff too. How old are you a forty four okay but that's you wanna see my fucking social security my license. I'll prove that you're right now. Wow no that's not necessary. Just seems like you'd be much older if you got capone cut. What do you mean what what eight years ago seven years ago yes. I'm not the numbers uh-huh so what's your point like two weeks prove. Something have some information fucking stupid. I don't wanna fucking suit. Shut your fucking ass right now all right. I'm sorry i didn't realize crisis so so tedious geez all right. We're doing roman again. Yes can i hear pleas from our friend. <hes> gets roman gets roman here here all you little cock. Goblins have been digging around for some dirt on me. Get roman. Oh wait well. You can all go fuck <unk> yourself deployed on all seven continents helping men of boyd premature ejaculation with gets roman and you'll never drop your bombs uh-huh before the michigan yeah i knew that owner duty and good long fucking. It's the way human really works blue. I had to get get your man was going to be topical. I just feel the air and take three. That's the best part is imagining his wife in the other room. What honey no no no. I'm doing another record. This thing is yeah. You gotta pick cindy southbound at fifteen minutes. That's ago go-getter. Get your man dot com. Slash kirk detriment dot com slash kirk five dollars. Your first month of swipes choose a monthly plan. If you use link gets roman dot com slash kirk roman swipes a proven way to last longer in bed done so done so done so they do it right now. Help the show out <hes> in speaking. I know the top of the show. That's excellent away crash the site for the tournament which is in two days right so we're going down. <hes> yes michael do that in a second my son doing thank you especially when you whisper like that. It makes even more sultry gets. The people turned on <hes>. Was i gonna say oh so. How does it work tomorrow so we have a meeting. Yes we have meeting. We're gonna go down to fox. We'll check into our rooms. <hes> we're gonna go have a meeting. You bet this. I emailed you the powerpoint presentation. You're going to take a lead on it. Go walk them threw everything forward to that and after that i was thinking we have a little show <hes> early dinner we could also record a podcast in the evening to to avoid having one in the morning. If you just wanted to get up and go golf so we could do what we can do to own. <hes> i think the the stuff kind of starts earlier than than turf tough just like the the stuff of these events going out. We're not why we're playing golf. I thought you were going to go meet. Pete stuff that you said you said numerous times. You're gonna go meet three second. All the fans are run out of the way their stories seven for five and half hours of stuff like that yeah. I like some could be part of this meeting eating as well he was essential at the miltons meeting he wants who's a meeting with like a non specific names but who we need the director of promotions at oh ooh all steve tomorrow boy 'cause pissed. He's not going to be there for that. I will channeling enter in that room. He had the invite he he. He's fucking choosing to be there at the birth of his son or daughter. Shit is fucking her and no baby kelaniya. Oh i'll be right a plane flying over this fucking building crawling up north concealing calling listen listen to me you fucking asshole. You think you're a fucking gambler. The fucking foxwoods guy you walk in with the biggest fucking gambler in town town. I'm fucking dave colony. I suppose one response from yesterday. Maybe i missed the contacts. Maybe just joking around it but someone said i go as dave cohen about this david platt sorry. I'm not a bitch inch wafers literally like bursting. He's responding one second all right and what do you need. We'll get we'll get to the hospital. Shut up speaking of twitter wars. You're going at it with mike young. Mark matt morrow her yeah. Let's holy shit yeah like so mark madden i. I was talking to gerry yesterday about this. I have no idea where the genesis of this is with us. I kind of do a little digging. I mean i'm sure i say school. I'm still allowed to do that and i did a little digging so we know mark matt served in the military. There's a question about that. I mean this guy is just sounds. He this guy you have to keep in mind mike i couldn't. I believe i wanted you fucking insane like you're going back. This guy is scientists. Guy wants to be a professional wrestler. It's all the whole thing is an act like he doesn't know anything anything about anything. I enjoyed it. No it's fine but i mean as long as you're not actually serious now. He's a fucking fucking. Well well club. It's called time. They've clobbering. Tom clark time for that. Is that a segment evident so mark matt is a host in pittsburgh is probably it must be the sixties now. He's been doing it forever because fifty eight. He was a wrestling announcer. Writer wants to be a wrestler so act is like like going pro wrestler not an olympic wrestler brownies. He's again no greco roman no no. I don't think he's like whoever elegant you only gives like <hes>. You know whoever what's his wave schultz. He's overweight but we don't. We don't fat shame people here but but <hes> he's doing his whole like you know yeah. I never understood it used to be on the old show once in a while and then he stopped and i remember we had the thing with him. I don't remember the genesis of he's on the show or he used to make fun of money. We used to have him on because he would like do that. Act and we just kind of laugh bring him on in like he didn't remember him at all. He's not in john three. You and i don't have any memory of so. I think you said something to him. The put a hair crosses asked during an interview and he started attacking you on twitter as the third guy on the show so this is years years ago. Yes okay twenty fifteen okay. I don't i don't remember even newest thing yesterday was like you don't make any money out of a job. I'm just like how do you even respond to this like he's. This is the fuck it. I mean listen to him. Listen to this guy. Listen to the show. The gets like no ratings by the way of course but that's okay. It seems what you're saying about you if he just applied it to me. It would be accurate. That's true we should have done is a loser making money point. He did shame you for being blind though like the best is when he said that i'm just making up a nickname taming. I'm wearing sunglasses do look like they could try didn't realize that well good luck with no no. It was more than that he goes. Oh i always respect someone. Conquering jumped on the couch like kip leave you engage in able ism and then he's like but then you still loser though uh-huh nobody ever nobody ever complementary view doesn't have no good <hes> so this is a rant. He delivered this opening monologues. He delivered the other like this. <music> pants other kids. It could be anything you want no wrong absolutely not talent is what matters and don't listen. Your parents kids out there. You're listening to judge smales. Who famously said the world needs ditch diggers to if you work in a convenience store be the best at that that you can be like brad. Hamilton worked at slurpy handle shirt even no shoes no service whatever the fuck what is being carted off. I can't hear your kids turn off. I hate voices. Fucking hate voices like tim reading a script of course he does not that these fuckers should just be happy working at a gas station. I'm gonna tell him he's up but he didn't really think that he's just like. I'm gonna be outrageous like i'm going to be the guy who calls people out could help you in you know suzanne and nobody nobody yeah who who is. He like i don't i i it's okay. Monday calls me up but like who the fuck is he. He has a lot of folks yeah. He's been around forever. He's on the wrestling world. I think he's done that he. He was on the old the old not the one with the w._w._f. But the other one he was on that one isn't announcer way way way better you'd see right w._c._w. He was an announcer on that show. Oh for years i think i don't really know he does have some controversial. Sports takes though like what well well well antonio o'brien. Excuse me a little tummy there 'cause. I thought a lot way too much seasons through a._b. Showed up at work today. He's back raiders camp but he's being a baby about the helmet. Still the raiders are pissed the g._m. Made a statement. That's mike mayock. We'll get to the details. Almost almost over media apologized has been rocked with burger. It's about time it's about <hes> always said you know this guy has had a hard hard for for one of the answer actually the only walking that transparency. He's living on my side of the street. Hey you're right. Ben rothlisberger is a tough break apart. Antonio brown on is such a pain in the ass. No i presume swell. I as part of the media i'm sorry i feel i've always told the critical apologize to men who made hundreds of millions of dollars for throwing a ball enough. I am really really really sorry very contrite in n._f._l. Certainly ben rothlisberger. They have vetted investigated him and the people involved in the situations. Let him fully completely fully so i think he's been investigated invented. You know too much. I'm sorry good. Don't you think i i think so enough's enough talking. I'm sorry the guy the guy is paid his debt to society. You know i hate that. God i also hate when writers tres and this is an old jerry ism to and he's right when these writers are like begging for guys to make more money like these writers who make sixty grand like you know signed this red sox. Have this kid ever so so i guess having a great year i swear to god. I don't know i've watched one inning of a recipes having great year right mike i haven't really what are you reading. It's baseball immediate attention to so whatever he's having a big year right so they say you know. Winning is winning a pay. This guy like fuck. Do you care. I've never understood that like why do you care if they pay a._m. Or not right like you got to pay. Mookie betts four hundred million dollars. Why have you ever looked at another person doing a podcast podcast. What are they gonna start paying that. I understand dan you know. There's there's there's a reason people always go. Teachers should make more money in perfect well. No seventy thousand people don't watch teachers. Teach a fucking class like i get that but so i understand you know the red sox while the red sox might be incentivized to veterans and teachers in the same show. Why todd why. I didn't teach so much as it's no no no. I don't even know what that means. I taught i would as a therapist. I would bring in like kids. Individually that was doing some stuff at bunker. Hill in this kid came in in this kid with math u._p. Muluzi was a math genius. I didn't i reference something early. What do you mean it seems like reference to move the plot sure. I don't understand remember when i said why watch that movie when i was <hes> it's right for cup again. This is boring to the listener but i was stuck on mars for a couple of years really yeah and they built something you out of there so i watched that movie. Maybe i may have slipped in embellished my history but that's the only thing that i i that's all netflix on the way to mars. You're saying that invented flex. Is that like an inside joke. I didn't ever told us privately. Did i know you invented netflix. It's fine. It's been its way back. I was visit dealey plaza in dallas and sixty three but again. That's not that's where you invented. Yeah was sitting around the book deposits. I don't wanna get excited kennedy's. What do you mean john f. Kennedy was killed there. Yeah obviously i can't talk about that. You think he was killed. No i'm just saying i can't my role. I can't that i can't get into like i just can't legally get into that right now. I'd like to but i i just can't do that anyway. So bad hasn't settled on. What do you mean. I've talked about it. You know you might think that nope but you did. You serve mike missing something like why he is. How did your brand but your brand okay all right. If you'll component important throws something at my face the vet that's right. That's a good point yeah l. h. u. That's true or you're talking about before ellie what you were talking about. How teachers suck and shouldn't get paid more 'cause actually almost talking sports for a second but not really my point in is like so a writer who makes an obama says the average sports radio one hundred fifty thousand. That's not quite true. Let's say they make sixty thousand dollars imagine sitting there writing a thousand words and how they should pay somebody four hundred million dollars already making like fifteen million does suck must suck if you're a fan of the team i suppose but i i've never quite understood even the stuff with brady. They're like oh he's taking. Is he really taking this big this. I mean comparatively to the rest of i know but like he's fucking what else we'll get into the weeds. It is so if all your calls right close close the book on mark madden. He's got a really hot incendiary. Take on racism. Oh sure i mean you know. Obviously that was a freedom rider so i i have a different take on it but yeah and like so often happened already start you already know this is not in our country the way i like we may be veering off screen veering off script or now. He's veering off script. You're gonna have to be patient. There's a little bit of it'll sound like dead air but it's not that air. It's just pausing housing for effect. It's catching his breath. How about this mike. I'll i'll confess this. Sometimes when i'm writing i do listen to classical music in the background. We are going along with the bit me you. Put on your on your record planes. Do you have hot cocoa a little bit of pipe tobacco yesterday. Yesterday i had to wear a hat. No no ramana now no no no no no no no no no no no no no nope. I'm writing on the computer especial writing. I know a nice desk. I have a nice view. I enjoyed some. I'll go for a little walk and i'll think about you. Walk like nixon did on the b._b._c. normandy and my the hands like behind you know sort of stroll. Do you have a mole skin notebook. I do not no no no no. I keep all my notes right here. I have nothing in the phone so i if i'm thinking something i i've done on the two main characters full character biographies full carat. What do you mean by that not good. That's good and do you get a lot of beck's you find them. Interesting things like oh her mom. I'm did this or that. Now my about that sure yes mentioning harry's running into the scene and what are you doing and you go. Oh you'll see one. It gives an interesting detail about one of your characters. No no no no no no no no no work details autocare not giving anything away. We'll not do that. We'll will not let you on obviously. It's not fair to them. It's not fair to that god. What's not. It's not i would never betray them like that ever. I think if you give the name there's a parody account of that. I'm not doing more than we'll ever be published about this character insinuation there needs to be kirkman hands novel vol- parody. I do not alone my work alone. You're capable of of writing a good novel. I do a wii by bagging on it. Let let me know bagging on him. Shit had him on looking at you scriptwriting working so well good. I'm sure it was. I got paid as much exactly acquis much my script if you've got paid but i wasn't i wasn't uber back and forth right my scholarship head because my podcast yeah i mean that's so i i can ask. Hey fuck you breathe a sigh of relief. When the podcast went up at eleven yesterday i did absolutely that was my big. Steve by the way is is really speaking from cell phone. Yes yes 'support because more than anything. It wasn't gonna lose a job. I would say i ranked the the panic meter st was actually i by far on the list and by the wait yeah it's important to note in no point in the last forty hours element. Thanks a lot for threatening to quit like that takes a lot of balls like i. I respected back to you. Thank you for the boston with respect to you saying i'm saying my place for that. I think there's too much group think we'll get to those assholes in the second. There's not enough appraise from me wh- threatening i'm making real money. No i think it was a really honorable thing that you did so thank. You very much happened yeah. No i mean if you did if you made it threatened to quit. Yes awesome talking your subscription service and we talk almost when we wanted to get out of here that would be jesus christ to work. We'll cone. It'll take care of that thing. You texted me yesterday. You think that's a thing or no. I think that's the thing yeah <hes> i mean. There's another guy involved old. <hes> very suspicious. Do i make it doesn't about it doesn't involve you with all my oh. That's clear more. It's more of a culinary kind kind of thing. Michael go right back to blindside pots. It'll be fine. Don't you worry everything will be fine. Well willie safe. That's true we can we can we have the talent might have walked into the real issue mark madman race the why we're avoiding always scary topic. That's why i'm trying to kill time before my really ready to play mark madden. What's very nuanced perspective interesting. I'm sure completely original. No one's one's ever said that before. Take on race right. You've heard it so often happens in our country the way it is now hold on real quick imagine if he had the incredible like the new beautiful take on on racing change like like black and everything was over. Stop the show easy coats became. I start doing some good news like these song sweeping. Oh my god this is he's right like he becomes president. I guess and so often happens in our country the way it is now. We are racism about stuff. That ain't dilutes how we perceive. Legitimate racism franks hot sauce. We put that stuff on everything. You definitely heard did this yesterday before you went on k._a._b._c. radio for one-two-three deposits. That was his whole take. Race is the number to call second. Never i could never hold on sorry that with kevin yesterday was in madden's good at it now. It's insane. If you really think about it i said this yesterday 'cause i used to do on the weekends a little bit. I was terrible at it. I would do <music> abbott. You know the interesting thing about races. We still haven't solved yet in america. You purposely pause like that. He it was a master at it. We used to play it on the air. Was liz do like things in between the in between the pauses. When the c you know fifty different things and i don't know why obviously it's one of the things that people did for a long time so you think you're supposed to do it but if you think about it you are actually talking to yourself yeah like we're talking to each other. If you guys were gone today i'd be talking. I've monologue before i would do a lot on the podcast and i figured out how to do it. Then you just talk but i used to fall into the trap of you know in for the patriots to get going. Yes these establish the run you thinking of that the whole time. I was thinking of oh shit shit. What do i was thinking was. I would look at the clock and be like all right fourteen minutes so the break and one phone call from fucking in salem fucked. I need seven minutes worth of pause here and then you'd be trying to engage your producer. Who is a fucking. You know part time weekend guy who is terrified of anything going wrong you do by yourself. I don't know for a year or two. I did like occasional weekends. It's not what i would do that. Stuff like saturday. One two three once in a while in that i just didn't you know wasn't the rules. Were back then. I know i could say or couldn't say but i'd be like you know you. The what do you think matt. What do you think about that the producer yeah i don't. I don't really know much about that up. That's great. Thank you so much on the talkback. Yeah well thank you and you look and you'd be like well well. You know you have your tricks because all he cared about that point. We you're by yourself in the weekend is just getting call she. She gets a fucking show over now. It'd be like it'd be no calls and i got a trick. I think my mother taught me this and i would do all the time. Now i see these fucking calls right now. It'd be no calls like matt fucking knock them all off and let some real fucking collars right like you know the wins the good one yeah. It'd be call right now. Call right now. I dare you guys call right now. Please call right now and it all lined to you like oh thank god beside of desperation is when somebody's like i see the callers there hang on hang on matt hang on hang on charlie hang on that was my good friends four yard mackenzie or mckenzie because he'd be like yes i see you. I see you kevin. I see you matt. I see you allan and i know the people in the car driving around really care the names of these people i would. That's why i never got. He's like we'll get to tim stephen bob well. That's a host say host basically saying into them please. I'm begging you to stay on. Which is if you think about. The radio hosts now. You're trying to please three people instead of the entire audience which is not a great way to do but nobody ever tells. No pro doctor tells you that piece of information right there don't do that. It does suck. I two or four hours. I've done a podcast for an hour by myself and i suck at it. Martin heart now madden on the other hand had a good take on race that status an interesting take. I never heard it before. The word which means he's like he says is eight because he's just being folks like he's just talking. You know what i mean. Yeah i know educated man. It ain't ain't no thing i'm just bullshitting. We're let's sit down. Have a fucking sandwich. Talk franks hot sauce and talk race speaking of calls. Mark madden really knows how to handle callers shift from him who good i like. He's he's got a big dick and the oakland raiders are my second favorite team out of the entire n._f._l. Sean payton. Who's your favorite team steeler. Okay hold you collect cramp ramp. Both they one time when you were young and i know that's a long time ago. He probably have very fading memory but football. I know that i grew up playing leave lenient. You're not that passionate bliss narrow. My second dog sports radio sucks. She mentioned my second favorite team as part of a larger point. I thought hey wait a second. You're not gonna slide on. Who's your favorite. The producer was like ooh here. We go mad and ran <unk> use. This is a guy by the way that said obviously you're not making any money in podcasting and then when people pointed out he's making money but he left a job to pay more money said well then he's a fucking. Let's go cares about his show no money. None of us are working. I i'm glad he took time to get out of tweeting about the hulk hogan sex tape and strippers and booty call. Did you say the bbb jones. He wanted the gronkowski girlfriend who wanted to put a mask on dancing eight hundred saints fucking bizarre weird stuff. He's very strong weird stuff dig into that steve. Would you good movie tweets pow how do you how do you address this now. If you serve in the military all forget it and i think he's like i said i would guess i did send me an email and see if you wanted to come on the show i incline you did not get back so this is about to talk about the other day and we'll get to too many fans in the second. Is this idea that nobody wants to come. Come on we want him to get because nobody wants to come on here. Oh because friday we do. Yes john mcafee good good true nut he's. He's got to be the first presidential candidate to come on your show. That's true good. Maybe i watched a documentary on. Did you see that documentary mike what documentary i told i told you about this last week. I have looked into john mcafee though he's crazy yeah well in your own dick dick on during the interview. Do you think he's actually fucked away. Oh yes i do but that was the best. Was that <hes>. He said he would dictate. The girl. I saw interviewing says okay well. People called you out for this and you haven't done it and he said well. I said my one of my assistants could do what's right. I mean you can go in. It's like twenty twenty or twenty twenty twenty. One bitcoin is going to be one hundred thousand yeah and she goes well. That's not that's not the same as you eating your own dick news. It's called delegation. See i like this. It's gonna be good niche. Take a minute all right. Sorry good p. Refreshing or back on the we're back live now so you're you are you certainly not we go just bringing back in. I do like having a show where you what are you laughing just as he's trying to get you back into. What's just be thinking of where to go and steve. Leave my place for you michelle you guys. Are you looking forward having dinner tonight mike with us. Oh tremendously rejected go. I don't know i have to confess on the fox would seem that well. I don't know foxwoods. There've been foxwoods. I would never have never know pepys in there. I think i don't know what else are you going to show us. The wonders of foxwoods walks with the wonder of it all i. I've been there a few times. <hes> you guys took some some beating last week on twitter. You guys didn't know what the chateau was. That's bad did we yes estimate three three to wait harry on twitter three tweets but still. I can't believe you remember the foxwoods. That's strange. I've been to foxwoods as you still know mike. Mike's blind. I'm looking at you saying mike's in talking to him talking about i mean have you had to both of you guys ever think stuff yeah. Have you ever been to hollywood slots in bangor oxford casino little bit bigger than foxwood. That's true yeah you about. Bangor maine right might short bangor maine right. I'm saying i'm saying i'm saying saying yeah. I know what you're saying it all right. There's only so much i can agree disagree with me on go ahead and so we nothing to be a daily segment. We're mike disagrees. Grinds mike o. Abort take-off or no yes. I think it's good. I think there's a t shirt they take off on. Social media are now. They're three tweets yeah. As many as we're talking about the chef that's about the chateau one back massive outrage on enormous outrage <hes> what else do we have swings and misses yeah so the show on my old station radio the place i was going to be i was going to inbetween swing in the mrs and swings and misses swinging the mississippi's there mary the press release got it wrong that we read i now the official title is swings and misses but swinging the misses actually a better bad named aimed swings and misses much better. I mean it's bad that it's good you know what i mean like swings and misses. The decker is the wings in his wife. Is he played football though yes. I understand that doesn't want to take you to the logic of this shirley. That's a good pot uh-huh. That doesn't make any sense either. No it doesn't make any sense. I said that the day came. I was on the baseball now. I get very upset great you. He got he got just pointing out so they're on yesterday yes under four. I didn't get a lot of feedback on this on social. Media didn't feel like it was the big event but i think that's a mistake. What do you think they're streaming numbers. Were yesterday it keep in mind cheers. The first season was on was the lowest rated show on television. I joined on this show season. Three's a writer it when it was done it was the highest rated show intelligent sometimes <hes> i dunno trying to avoid to say these things take time sure that's what i would say enjoined season three season three. I was a writer and cast member yeah cast member yeah. I've watched a lot of episodes. Cheers was the mailman cliff. Clayton clayton played the character sort of a central us. They're all talk shows sometimes those they would change her sure so like the mom on fresh prints were l. One day a different right and i played her yeah right no yeah you're okay. I'm not going to get into obviously david chase's friend and i don't wanna get into the lawsuit suit whose idea it was and all that stuff but originally he was the sopranos he was gonna write. It was about a family that sings opera and i was like well. That doesn't really nobody's going to be into that. Dave i was like i. I think i'd do it more yeah. It really took a left. Turn yeah hobble more of a mafioso thing and i was going to therapist at the time in an emma therapist license therapist purpose okay so i said and i was treating a mafia person john gotti. I can say that now. I mean jonah friend so i said why don't you make more of a mafioso type thing and he said that's interesting he said why don't you just write. It and i said all right. You said i'll take all the credit for and so that's fine. I'm egos generous guy yeah so i didn't i was part of the cast is well. I played paulie walnuts. Really really i did yeah yeah yeah seems they must have done some good work and they'll seems a lot older. No-make-up was done in your community. I enjoy. I enjoy my time in that show. It's a good friend yeah and and jimmy was afraid to at the end yeah okay. I was there. You know mark again to that. You were in italy when he that with you. I mean if you want to believe it was shared with whatever whatever you want to believe whatever you read the paper so there's more to no reason no reason to get into that so we'll talk about that later but dave is a friend god we have so i'm gonna go ahead and just preface this with. It's very hard show to cut like distinct clips from well. It's like am i guess is. I don't know this but you know you're married. Mike is is going to be soon find out soon to hearing labor day. You told us before the show. Milton's is excited about that. Yes yeah that's true too. It's my guess is us. Walking in the middle of a of of the bicker sens right just a couple. I actually mike laughing a couple just kinda like just in the middle of a conversation right well well. They also have the third guy they have fifty. They have a comedian is he. Is funniest fizi not quite. He's thinking. He's a regular steve robinson. Is there today at the jimmy fund. I dipped in quick this morning and didn't hear him having those family suffered enough. I don't know i mean do we need need. We need fifties humor for these. I mean <hes> let me swing misses okay so this is their intro. I know you like intros. Yes i do like intros. Oh yeah i can't even so just keep sorry so if you're if you're so it's eric eric decker his brother right cody indecorous. I believe nothing important. I don't even know what he did. He play in the n._f._l. I don't know okay. I know jennifer's decorative sturge sturgeon. She was famous farve senator picture of his decorating okay and she was <hes>. She's a media figure right. Okay so they're married and now they're gonna bring that whacking with a comedian onto onto the <hes> onto the show this radio dot com sports original swings yet to pull your pants down to your knees and there's stoorikhel evidence of guys pitching on. I want your heart. I want to eat a children layoffs or something. I hope we can win a game. Are these notes say on just fired up to be here today. I'm a collector of toys. What's up everyone. Jen surger here with swings and misses right next to me is my husband former professional baseball player cody go. Ours is our buddy eddie pence by the way hi i'm cody. I'm her husband. That's that's about all i know but i just want to point out really said anything yet and quite frankly my biggest career accomplishments. According to everyone is marrying you. I don't agree with sir now. Oh my god five seconds. Can't you just stop you start to show first of all. Thank you for your arguments at home. The mike tyson an engine more cuts in the open from like forty years ago like why are you doing. I'll give you guys a menu of stuff to talk about and this is the first hour of swings and misses so we've got. We've got deckers reckers al davis impression okay this antonio brown talk. We've got richie. Incognito talk a little bit talk about football. We've got cory. Decker tells a story story or cody decker. Whatever fuck his name is tells the story about his ford explorer and we've got horse talk and tesla talk. I wanted guy. It's up to you. Mike the the two things i mean. I would like to hear the al davis impression but i'm curious what richie incognito talking is fresh cut but he's like stepford richie incognito right now because because you find out he's been institutionalized so whatever like there's a fight breaking out he's basically no no guys just count to ten. I learned chemically castrated the alan turing posts lobotomy. Last smile can't tell me that we might have been wrong about this. Show are they just bring up richie incognito and calling him insane uh-huh mental institution dunking mentally ill good i like is he in the mental solution. I don't know maybe i mean he's had had struggled with mental illness. Turing was cody. Decker is impressive roughly hold on here. This told me that he's on estrogen. Supplements boobs are much more impressive than looks pretty good well. We'll i'll try one more the al davis impressionism here yeah i mean every time i think of lane kiffin i mean a lot of people have different memories. I only remember over al davis firing him on live tv going lane kiffin. You didn't want jamarcus russell. Jamarcus russell is the great corby eight hundred laughing seventy five and that was the basis of his his entire firing of lane kiffin looking back on it. Probably what smart i hate you lane kiffin because i liked jamarcus russell so you feel good. I don't remember the light times for my raider. Why is that the comedian who is who i know jen is but i don't think the impression has to be the one who's a little bit louder. He's not the case. Even the impression was that he was doing the impression decker. Yes sure what's a comedian. He chimes in from time to time. Give me one what does he. At least they have some energy. I'll give you want decker telling a story about his. That's ford explorer a horse and tesla talk jon gruden talk or a football team surprise me when i was in right when i was going in college i drove my buddy. Who's going to san diego state. We drove down all the way to san diego and we made it there and an outrageous amount of time record amount of time. We made it there in about out to about an hour and forty five minutes. I didn't even know how we did this. In my ford explorer we've started to pull used yeah. We got a three week to hold me to san diego drove probably ninety five the the entire way and we pull off and all of a sudden felt like we have a flat tire turned out. No our car turned into a tripod tipped over by front. Passenger side wheel broke off the axle and then he wrote into a building. No it was not a reliable but i the thoughts on the show mike. I'm just imagining i'm not even above telling a story like that. I'm just above telling it in here. I'm just imagining if i came in here with that story. What's the time you were at cartridge. I'd slap. You would actually actually get it would if i didn't if i did it in the intro. It'd be the next hour and a half of your life. We'll probably reminds you would tell the then you have the live show right. Oh boy. I mean these travel stores. You're on the highway and you get a flat tire or something probably reminds you of that time. You're on the the oregon trail. Seward seward follies thing. It was incredible unbelievable elevator. You pretend like a novel writer like yourself doesn't know what seward's folly is the historical fiction i am. I'm a i'm a writer of the music scene which i can do going back to the eighties to do a story set in the eighties. Yes that's right. That's that take you try to write a novel. I know you haven't i could see you trying to fiction thing. Never now any books never never any books. You'd never written any books for everybody. Elite never written any words at all never for anybody else in never played it as i have never put words. I'm you swear to jesus christ. I used to work at a publishing company but you've never like say. Oh you worked for somebody else and they had booked the came. You didn't write the book. No you're looking at the line so if somebody started digging they wouldn't find out look pow. Why does the whole veteran thing extend to siblings not only served. Oh yeah i know that's that's. That's the that's the problem steve served so i can. I say swing and misses is terrible things but it may not be historically terror. I bet scallon scallon pows will be worse. Yes ignorant. I told you that swings and misses will be the best show you because it's your right baugh. It's it's terrible but there is some energy. This decker guy is like one of these athletes is probably good looking guy and nobody ever said to him. You're not funny at all like that story. I bet you people around him laugh because he's a good listening athens third-row right yeah terrible like just imagine reading that story. I'm nervous kansas third starting my third chapter. My this is my character so i'm driving cindy. They love the people like they had these terrible. It's happened to everybody. Everybody's driven fast. Everybody's had bad flat tire everybody but if you tell what the right energy then people say oh that's crazy i guess i mean i can't even imagine telling the only travel story i ever told guts eddie buzzing. I talked about masturbating in the back of which is a great story. I think right we've heard memorable. If decker told that story right there it's not as good as the time i masturbated in a tedeschi bathroom but it's kinda stole my masturbation stuff. I i believe that story anyway. Nobody does imagine if it was entirely. They were just ripping you off. They were talking about then they get serious for a few minutes and they're like my parents recently investigating this veteran right here. What do you have your show comedian guy. Maybe ready to come with me. Whatever that's murchison guys unbelievable just trashing him birthday shirley show some facts. Where's the transfers. That's a show that's free of any trouble in that world. Oh oh yeah i'm guessing but they're not gonna have any actual marital discord. I think the video feed is pretty good visit yeah. What are they just sit around. They sit around. It's like a three screen panel active. It gets back but i don't know if it's a conscious decision but jen is wearing a very low cut shirt always had and the camera angle is like oh and she's got boobs. Husbands hijab the boot for home. How about the <hes> how about i thought that was me too. Honestly she's christ voiced. What did you listen to the fan podcast or no. I heard the first coleman's of and then i was like i if it gets any worse i listened to with same and it kinda kinda sucked because it makes me in a hotel room or something and then you said hey listen to the next ten minutes the last minutes they veer into like first of all they do this thing where d._c.'s obsessed with me me like getting a bigger audience and again is saying. I should have k._f._c. on fitting in at barcelona. I'm just doing a show. I don't care about that but the last ten minutes in the two guys who are losing their mind and it all it seems. I talked about this last week but it seems like they're always trying to be like we like my mic nice guy but here's why mike have complete peace. They hate eight. You just same a piece of the same nice guy they totally hate. You thinly veiled hatred now. There's just come out and say we hate this hatred and jealousy. Uh i think bela day yeah. There's no reason to hate my keeps saying. I stabbed him in the back. I don't know what i did start playing. I'll tell you one the one that starts getting interesting for whatever reason today the goal along get along sounding like tony nazarov ripping based on yesterday's show where they accused us of being group <unk> first of all i i started the show by saying we should have konate here instead of steve bannon but i think we could make fun of steve. We can make fun of h._p. Right eight if steve moore was the three of us agreed on the the albright thing like well. We happen to agree on it. I don't know what you want mike to be like no. I i agree with champs actually yeah. You told me that i'm not sure where by the way the two of them agree with us on it so i'm not sure where i don't know the reason. I agree with you so much. I hear them bashing you all the time i mean i think like this guy is taking a beating. I got to give him some support. Who me i appreciate it. Thank you i mean. I don't think we got it wasn't group think as much as we all just understood that his value in exposing people who or from that but we didn't do anything we hadn't done the exact so and they kept saying that so i was. I supposed to disagree with you. We did find my. I'm literally one whatever you want. I don't care if they become you. Come saying from their perspective. You're supposed to step in and be like hey guys. There's not a lot of value in this that he's not a big enough fish focus on brian williams. That's that's a reasonable will not but the question that we didn't ask you taking a fish. That's how i can see. Why chevy thinks that but i don't really agree with mike he did fine. You did fine. Don't worry about it. He did find got. You'll hear you say anything. I know a shut the fuck you gotta. Show me the wrong way today. It's just there's sometimes in that room. It's everybody everybody is doing group think and if jerry was there wouldn't be the same. All i want is somebody on the phone porno circle the flagons day and it's like okay. Let's take a break in shit on m._h._p. Sorted out tell you what is a text to the thing yard man because i know he has some mm. Issues is acknowledged having some fun with mike but he wasn't he. He's i texted me in response at birth about he didn't respond to super set and he's worried about losing his job and he's worried about these super worried read about shit. I felt like saying to him. You fucking asshole like what about steve. I was actually part of the fire him. He was dealing with a lot more and we made fun of him and this is every day they might for the last couple of years every day. I deal with people who are trying to get me out of a job every day like you know you don't really matter to be a dick but nobody really listened to that podcast cast. I mean not really the numbers for but you know what i mean like awesome. Not if i feel like you know having gone on. Don't you feel like there's a part of him. That thinks the jeopardy jeopardy. The sense of danger is a thrill in it's his way well. He can't ball. He can't have both ways so he can't be like. I kept saying he kept doing in the pocket so i just cared about the harvard thing. I didn't care about anything anything else. Did you communicate with him. Do you think that's true. No no neither do i so you can't like you're either part of it. You're part of the show you're not. It's okay the guy. I don't oh my but you can't be my fault. Don't blame me like well now that the show you love and you were claim to be part of and you you like when they get in some trouble even though it's not really trouble like your then suddenly distancing yourself from that i that i don't like all candor. I don't like and just remember. We didn't do anything wrong. I've had journalists reach out to me and said you did everything by the book like don't worry you did this right now. We know that go ahead also. He said we're piling on h._p. We made a joey jokey. Obviously kidding and we make fun of the phone call and say this as you say. I say it's his fault tough shit. What's so what now you're piling on. Hey hey pal. I've got his back. He's doing this elective sense of humor that some people were they can say something like a joke or they can treat it very seriously and you can't be the guy who southern like oh i didn't. I didn't think should have dug into that. We'll get yes you do the text him yesterday and said i'll. I'll do the show if you want or you can distract me the way but like. I'm surprised you don't think we have your back and he just never response weird. Keep playing listen to these. Two psychopaths probably being overly sensitive about it but i think it you know i just don't appreciate the fact that people are saying that i somehow fucking like caused this shift to happen. Like how did i how those guys but both of you who who who is he talking about somebody on twitter people on twitter shits like that's life you your i albright might be reli point out so fuck him in any way albright dachshund okay. That's what he's so then go after albright fucking blaming us for a guy i mean albright's a psychopath go after him. Would he want me like what do you want me to do a guy i'm confused. I just get offended when people see you know oh. You said you said you would have quit for steve. You should quit for image b. He's not part of the show. According to him i mean portnoy wasn't gonna fire m._h._p. Hours already buried 'em. He's at the fire. I it's not like i'm h._p. And i liked that podcast listening to what i really don't they shouldn't are showing that you get mad at but obviously they can do that whenever they want but this is just weird image distancing basing himself from this like. Will you know we want to go with a lot of. I think a lot of evidence was jesse otherwise right yes. I'm not saying they did any work on it or anything but i'm just saying let's not be like we did. The harvard ended up. I wanna know anything else about just bullshit. Go ahead yeah yeah. Here's the thing here's the the thing that that i've i've come to understand in the last couple of days. If we go in and perret everything about this and say all the right things you and i we're gonna get shit on. If we go and say you know what i don't agree with this. I don't agree with that blind. Mike your being late tony as we're going to get shit on so you know what i'm just going to say. Whatever the hell i want to say and get shit on regardless. You should be doing so congratulations d._c. Learn what it's like to be a public figure. You're gonna shit on talk. Shows fuck fuck head to say what's on your mind have some balls sitting there and yapping away about how fucking great casey smith is fucking have an opinion geez. It's just that we didn't even do a podcast last night now to be fair i was. There's another thing i did tell you that if i do i get pissed off the dumbest things like this so they get into this thing where dc is in madison me talking about getting mad at h._p. Because they're saying that we d._c. Things that we told them don't do a podcast until way in on something did fucking do fifty podcast. I don't give a shit now. Do whatever you want told them. They can rejoin ask me. I prefer we way and i but it doesn't really matter. I mean they. They can do whatever the fuck they want. These guys have snapped. They fucking snapped. We finally broke them and i like them. I don't i i do too. I say nothing but nice things about him. I said they're loyal guys. I liked him. I think they do a good show america who promote a fucking looking podcasts more than i do. I can never ends. I'll tweet between them all the time. I don't get it. I don't i don't understand any shit a mike more at the end playing going to have your back but they're just gonna shit all over you and make you a topic of the conversation to kill fifteen minutes. That's fine low-hanging h._p. If i got to play the role you guys never make fun of me. Just fucking joke i think i'm glad that i've never made fun of on any podcasts. I imagine it would be very tough yeah. I mean like it's funny. They may be that's. They're really offended. If d._c.'s offended that we play the image be called the portnoy then these guys like their fans of mine. I don't even well let me get the i don't believe m._h._p. Would be offended by that. I find possible to believe and he said he was reacting to tweet about it where he's like well. If finally i don't have to feel bad about going after mike and how bad is podcast is and i was like gimme your shit all over your blinds. You get that part a couple minutes up. The website overreacted myself. I thought they were blaming me so i'm not even sure just come on here. Fucking roasted mike and mike fucking pitch trash talk. Maybe i do i do understand. I quit trash so you'll never go back to hosting trash solo because everybody loved. It loved it so much. I had to be an asshole. I can't be a great job. Thank you like nobody gives a fuck about that. I don't mean to be doing it and doing with you guys. You guys have good chemistry together. I think you should do the. I dunno whatever happened to the thing on you guys probably once a week with us. I like that yeah on the you should do that. You should do it. Tonight has pisses each other periscope. That's good you guys have good chemistry together but like image me joining that podcast not suddenly like electrify podcast world and i like him but that said that i've said i don't like doing it by myself. I thought it was boring and it was like we said earlier. It's like i'm talking to myself with him. It's better. I think i've never said otherwise. I don't get wear them a back step. What's your take on this steve. What's going on with this guy. I think that he did you ruin him but one thing is. I listened to the entire podcast. I will say that i freed m._h._p. And he's now he's now using bigger words like more of an academic. He's the whole harvard thing like this. Guy says he got into harvard. Did him a favor. I think he's a writer. I respect him. I'm just saying i don't i i liked them. Both and i know will a lot of people listening to this and saying why you spend time on these guys but i find it fascinating to see what happens to the human mind like these guys. I find this much bringing in like whatever some sitcom i'm star talk for thirty minutes. Maybe i'm wrong but if they're not if he's going to distance himself and he's not gonna defend us and what we did. What did they have to talk about like. Did you defend this or not because you agree with us. He kept saying you agree with us so if they have nothing to talk about to me scared us which i mean. He seems like a guy who gets nervous about stuff like this. We've we've talked about this. He's he'll always be. Do you get this call from this number. What's this number was he. He seems like he's nervous guy. Maybe that's part of his mental illness tonight. I would say there's only room for mental illness for one person this world meet so shut the fuck up and do your part well. He thinks the guy's going after his job and that's why he was freaking out about good fucking firemen after this with the club you if you think you imagine what it would be like to have people screaming for you to lose your job. You know i wouldn't know not for the last fucking i for members of my life never experienced it. Yeah i mean this is just i keep playing these assholes now. Did you go back and do that and see what success he doesn't matter about. Hold on hold on hold on hold on what's success. I hate to be in that. What's won't won't have any success now. We have the crazy. Advertisers are also say like. Don't you think mike's kinda got a higher priority right right now than to be digging around on the website kind of started doing more with that but <hes> yeah. I'm trying to get a job here so but i but i you know if you want to be a podcast is in once or twice a week. That'd be great. I i like doing. Have you ever said you don't do that. No never i don't care <laughter>. I've i say do more stuff. The fuck you want to be the bigger part of the twitter account county do the stuff with mike on the periscope and do i mean we could take his name off the accounts little safer form if danger anything. You know i don't want to lose. His job. Is poetry professor at the university of fucking head. You know i think needs to happen. Hey to mendes fence and beat to finally get that novel done. Is you to spend a long weekend on the woods you ooh i invite him to invite him to foxwoods. He'll fucking eat the buffet out to close the fucking casino. Where where did the fat jokes start with him. H he was fat he came in. He was a fatso. That's that's the other thing too. I think you get sensitive about that. I mean to break down the fourth wall that fateh guy okay. I'm i'm going to put up the fourth while jesus christ show is the fat. Mike is tremendously shitty paul kitty right. He's a arab fucking joke relax. I didn't think so no i didn't do it. Put it this way. I didn't do it to make him feel hugely uncomfortable from the start these on the air with kirkman and for the first time the way i would ever do that at all. I didn't think well we make him slightly uncomfortable to talk about how you can see his fat. Never i would never do that. Let me hear these two lunatics some month. Now i think we're on the hour on a bi monthly schedule <hes> for for trash talk which is fine you know hey i know he's. He's a busy guy. He's working. You're working sixteen hours a week. So which is he's by one of these restaurants there. I can only do at certain times because my producer in chile. We need a ah yeah video komen. There are times where i ask them to. Only it's fine but like he's away or whatever and you can't do it certain days and that's fine but like why is it my fault that we don't do it as i will also say. It is a lot of it. It is my phone. Thank you addressing that but it's just like they're blaming me for shit. That doesn't make any sense. I'll say in the mike is also sensitive so this is a really not you kind of are really really not a little bit a little bit first of all. I'm blind. Mullen make fun of my disability every day and out to be assessed jewel steve. I saw stephen say that steve's head went down. He started finally some production. Put some drops correct. Is it say i fucked my mother on the dropper. No it says blind mike hyphen fuck my sound effects. It's very easy to find what does it. What does it drop actually sound like though at fuck my mother cake you know but i think you get. I don't mean like sensitive like that. There are two kinds of sensitive yeah. I think you get when those guys start saying stuff like that. Your antenna goes up yeah. That's always the right word your revenues. Maybe a little little bit a little bit elizabeth. I would say in the last week. We know i disagree with that. In the last week. Mike is really stepped up. I think in terms of sharing stuff not not necessarily with view but the guy cooperating on ideas onto perfect yeah no. I mean we we try. We try and figure out what's the idea we could send good member book first podcast. Gonna wanna take this anymore. These two idiots literary agent by the way i do as a matter of fact nice good on site and put it on the minivan. You know he showed me. He showed me a mockup of a new a a new logo instead of the one that's <hes> freddie mercury's nineteen eighty two glasses that he used for the hot space store. He sees a new logo. He's always very consisting that was done on this angry everyone. He's very concerned about the very subtle why angry angry angry angry angry with his corporate job. Is he yeah of course not but he's not going. It'd be on the air. He's not good like he's a fine. In that world like was he he so echo some talk about our show and he likes to. I think he's the guy who was trapped in spokane cubicle and secretly wants to murder his boss cypris a._b._c.'s solich kirk to do this. Do that ends up. I'm like what are you so fucking just listening to the show every day like it's going to be. It's going to be bigger. It's gotta be bigger. It's got to be bigger rogan. Y fuck the sports writer talking about i make what does he care of big. My podcast gets mark madden thing too. You don't make kirkman not saying it's a place where people make mistakes be bigger than what it is. He has more talent to be bigger than what he is and i don't wanna see him. Limit himself hold on. It's kind of like a fatherly figure two months like what am i i saw the podcast numbers steve. You saw them i did are would you say pretty damn good. It's pretty impressive. Yeah we're in the millions since the show started. Millions of downloads already correct yes. Yes millions like i don't know what else i don't know. I don't know what we did today. Appeals to i i think a loyal but limited audience that's okay now. We'll get bigger and bigger but it's never gonna be as big as other. I don't i mean you've been doing. You've been doing the thing that you're doing for a little while in the audience has grown right and we also started as a middle of the summer. It's not like you picked up a a microphone and immediately. There were hundreds of thousands of people who are tuning in right now. I disagree with that. I will say i don't agree that you couldn't be as big as part of my taker rogan so mike disagrees disagree with mike disagree. It's just to tell me that could be greater than i than i thank you. I think you're gonna be better than stephen king you the best joe rogan. Oh i see this trend book more current events more politics at your favorite book already. My book mike o. Absolute good. I can't read anyway so we just got steve. Leave saying what you really want to say guide steve. I think we can talk more current events and politics. That's been steve's steve weeks. I guess we could i can tell right now not in the mood to do that. I could tell i won't be but there's this thing where i know you do have an appetite for that and you want a little bit but nothing lately. That's been interesting to me okay. I mean that's fair. I'm what something pops up. We'll do it. That's fair like you said the warren thing to me. She finally took. I feel like that's something that would have worked. We used to be well. We have the theme name of the show is frauds. Were lying about their back but like i feel like elizabeth warren talking about native america. We've been there three zillion. I'd ra- i find honestly i find the moore compelling right now because i i like when the people are losing their minds this these are two guys in their little world arguing and just like they've snapped now to play devil's advocate here. What are they supposed to do. The show is about the pod defend us and this situation. They said they agree with us if they disagree with us and i agree with you there steve though if they were like like you know what they fucking totally fucked do that but don't be like well. I don't know she might not the nine hundred eighty two logo image blindside podcast nothing no talk about shit the people on the listen to i will say in in h._p.'s defense. He did have some very salty words for chaps and portnoy earlier on in the podcast did he criticized him but yes he did and in dc didn't say anything so i mean that's true h._p. Was critically. It's very critical portnoy right now and so am my aim down on portnoy right now i have you know this is kind of yeah. He's having some fucking. Leave him out here okay. What do you mean he's reading. He's in mourning. His dog serve serve. The military is that she of officer wilson dogs do let me she was a military dog than that's different. Muck criticize her maka step up on her brand. I'm sure it's fucked not gonna do that. I've had you know stella. Yeah yeah the snacks. What is it people tweeting at the dog. I'm like all right can can we move on from this place. I mean i feel bad for the die. Feel bad for my thoughts are with the portnoy's today as they grieve stella. How's that is that good good. That's gonna be the most controversial controversial thing that you've said on the show today. My thoughts are with stella but the tone that you thought was stella. I i feel bad that the dog is no longer live. I think i'll be able to play golf on thursday. Take the day off from buffalo wings. Were not doing the live show now. We'll talk about offer. That's not how it works. You realize you did talk about it off air and he brought it up on. Is that my concern about this or what's going on. I know we just we. There's a musical event that we want to have but we can't have local city ordinances. It's fucking big government putting its foot on us well. We're gonna we're gonna fix that. We will get. We'll get to fix on that. We're going to go to war. We city hall. We haven't we already about to go the fucking lawsuit with some of the summer summer. That's my only that's my biggest. My biggest concern at the live show is the fucking radio factor you know that's can he can fuck and sabbath because you know he's going to sabotage that fucking gave him a boehner just talking about you know he's already thought of it he and albright their best friends now. We'll be security there <hes> yes. I'm sure there will let me let me a little more from these two idiots as we wrap this well. We'll see for rapid. Well listen. I mean hey. Mike's gonna shit on us. We're gonna shit on my back so so you can. You can handle it same way a with mike. It looks like on you know how you don't have nickelodeon the nineties. It was all a green green slime everywhere. Hasn't mike has an android phone so i just checked you know like my my message and it's all green text bubbles over and over and over again from i heard it's like an l._g. Phone to not even like a samsung heard yeah heard it. Was it no it's. It's a samsung galaxy. Let's be honest if it wasn't for safety for the guys who made fun of all the time like you know central great when he was on with monique. I think he was very good. I would never i like about it so great guys. They're wonderful. Sometimes you were you were in the middle of a segment and you start to tell a story and it starts with like a movie or a novel or something and i'm like where the fuck is kirk going with this and then by the end of it. It's like oh yeah. That's actually funny. That's a good point right there. I'm just like we did not really not not play. The landing on delivery jokes that have galaxy he was struggling with the with the punch line was the joke that you texted him a lot. I text. I texted him. Hey like if you're really mad we can do a podcast about got it or you can just trash me whichever you feel more. Real hatred is toward mike. I'm defending mike hearing away and maybe i shouldn't but they're really hate you. I think there's a theme of you sticking up for your employees employees and defending. I guess which i've got credit for. I think you're just trying to not have us unionize. What the fuck would you do if blind mike and steve unionized trouble. I just love to the big conclusion. Was you know if mike should honest that's fine. What did i say see. I told you sensitive stage. Play played on. Mike and mike pissed more time yeah yeah final thoughts. Are i am surprised that kirk is still there. I am very surprised he was able to talk portnoy out of firing steve steve dunn point. I think the stories over my one take away that listen to k._f._i. Is at yeah. I thought it was more mike ship but that's their big. They hate do they. Hey mike because he's in the room jess. I one hundred percent but they're very nice to me like you can't say d._c. Texts me about like kind of like. He's always very nice to me so i don't i don't know okay. I dunno surprise. There's this real anger though with them yeah toward you yeah yeah so. When did you shit on them yesterday did i did. I joined in making fun of the call which i made fun of news on my podcast. Sir are puck damage. Be okay sounds good good radio at the supper now. I don't they have to play the m._h._p. Bill parcells phone no no no. There's nothing funny about it. I mean don't laugh at this twenty. There's nothing funny. I agree. Listen listen. I gotta tell you this is some of the displays of commentary about you and kirk manhattan your bill parcells right and you've got bella. Check coming in here. That's really put it in terms that you can understand no dumb everything down and make it a sports analogy for your day but that's really what you have here. I'm sorry you're not ourselves. You're not brady you just sit. There was more awesome. You literally just said party say and then two seconds later. You're not parcel started. Do you want me to replay what you just said. You just say war on foot. Stop it. Just hang up on this. I'm laughing. It's not funny. Oh no no no no. No i get this feeling that one hundred years now kirk soon be on his deathbed any final requests kirk. I'm hoping i'll live to be one hundred forty. Five steve's amy h._p. Bill parcells. I said you're not you're not. You're not parcels parcel according to the show today you're already like what two hundred sixty five the good best drop is. You're a moron that is funny. You're more on these things up. That's funny though no nothing funny no anti d._c.'s pissed that we i'm sorry for pretending yesterday. I was pretending something funny about. It and i'm very sorry right. I mean you're the one who told us in the first place but you were like listening unfunny. Call don't play it. Yes we wrap up with some bad radio. I think we can it's just where i was going. I've got ninety seven nine out of maine. They do a man on the street interview thing. Oh called mess with mainers. That'd be careful. Be careful you. You don't want to use a maine accent on this program because they have an accent draw. Be slip into your maine accent. You get to put a dollar coin or something in the long running this long running game of the way to people who hate the bad radio thing we're doing. I've got a lot that i've sent steve and i've got that. I haven't even sent him yet. I don't think it's dying. These people are sending it to us from all around the city until you hear. Some people really like it. Some people hate it. It's never going no. I you know why because i like it <hes> gizmo. His boat was following us on twitter now fan morning show with lori jeff in lieu maters. Thank you lou. How are you going out in the world and messa when mainers this week. I'm glad you asked laurie. I'm going around. What are you saying or she on the street a little jesus christ again. I didn't quite get back would did you like that from the top. Let's just keep them talking loom. How are you going out in the world and mess oh and mainers this week. I'm glad you asked gloria. I'm going out and we have a bunch of microbrews around portland. Oregon thought it'd be fun to just put together a little bogus questionnaire for people questioning see. She just use the main accent so she had to drop a call. Is that true yeah. Did you hear the accent had he has a wonderful segment here this fun to just put together a little bogus questionnaire for people quarter for people. It's not really they're the they determine. What's <hes>. What's an exit the they put the quarter in the jar eight yeah. I you just have one of those for us like every time you know mike defense sexual predator shows pictures of his guys guys. It isn't true so stop talking about the whole thing where you know mike oh my god last night and my mom went so she was super limber. It is true. Knock it off. You're saying untrue. It's about we get a quarter drop we do that. We need that the future 'cause i like that i like messing with me. Messing messing with mike is what we do going forward good yeah. I don't think she recorded herself doing accent doing like a questionnaire with people on the street so <hes>. How many beers do you consume on average every week. Probably probably like eleven or twelve different is okay. Oh different ones yeah and how small ashamed franken berry was. What was the the question is how small is too small for microbial. <hes> play on micro small 'cause like years they put out. Is it like the size of is robert bert jesus christ. They laughing at this or no well yeah. It's funny. It's it's messing with mainers. I like it honestly. The needs to be enough room for media comfortably get drunk their phone booth size. Yes okay and would you rather have <hes> coffee mixed with beer. Bear mixed with coffee. You motherfucker that that is funny that is good. I'll give like that's the same drink though isn't it yeah. That's the joke. No no one's coffee beer the gano more beer more coffee. What's your f- one of these. People are like why are you. Would you poison customer you suck. Why are you doing stupid. Fucking bit can't you just talk like regular people and your stupid fucking show. That's the odd thing about like these men on the street. I don't know admitted is this fake but it's like the people find are just as excited to be on abc. Drink eleven twelve beers. We well like she has no. We'd be like if he says okay and here's the next question you like talk to make fun of them. Really mainers simple earnest people. We're just answer the questions about beer sure they're like okay the guy the guy's probably like how many beers drink this week. I don't know like ninety nine eleven twelve years back to you like he doesn't feel duped. All like nothing happened. That would be embarrassing. There's nothing funny. They just had a conversation about nothing like michael jeffrey dinner last night. I had a little buffalo chicken kills alexa all right steve back to you. There's no there's no i mean there's more to hear you're not gonna call you wait. You guys would call me fat or i'm fucking my mom or the bit gets better. Oh yes oh good all right. I'm sorry i don't think i'd want to put those things together separated on separate time so you wouldn't and prefer to have one mixed with the other rather the other mixed with the one okay and then on a scale of one to ten. How old were you when you had your first beer. The judgment i haven't i could probably like ten twelve. It must be like so stupid. There's nothing i don't even get. I mean i get it. I get it but it's not it's like bragging rights for mainers. How how how long were you when i was at five feednc to me in a bottle i mean jesus christ anything else like three or four. Thank you so much. She hit twelve scale of one to ten. There's about three or four really fair. Is that how many beers he had this morning and what was going to break the god. It's not really fair to make fun of the day we do kind of messing with mainers where we say steve's brother didn't serve in the military true. That'd be a funny messing the main segment they did that. They had like the competition stephen. I did you with us. You're with us at that point right when stephen i've yes day. He was the rob for the first one of one of his most comfortable experience. Did you say i said a little bit but i do think ever michael. That was the same day i did. I had to do stand up after that. The same show also creepy was there. Yes pete kingman beat. Yes yes even lately. I have what's on a volunteer to let us use his truck to to help with the studio. Oh great you know. Kingpin pete has been active behind the scenes goods good dude yeah. I haven't heard from him lately. I haven't i'm saying which is i'll. I'll give him your phone number. I'll give them your phone number. I'll let them know hey. Hey screen even to a minimum kirkman. Myskina wants to losses. We are so weird israeli joe cya on pete. That's not even close to his real name going to text me after joking but if it was my phone number so i've got morning magic one of six point seven another very familiar with them what they're debating in age old question russian something something. You probably ponder a few times a day <hes> mike. What do you think this is. What are these questions that everyone really has to answer if it's ritual actual good if it's what percentage of men don't change no. It's more serious than that so it's a spiritual question that hits everybody only here. I i am definitely into this. No guesses i happen but the magic cap you a cat person or a dog provoke madan person what kind of dog i have a puddle total and black pug hold on no that say i reacted to lick it was cute then they asked what kind of dog it was as part part bulldog part great. Dane punk writes a puddle then they say it's cute and they say what what kind of dog is it well. It's it's obviously not this wasn't prepared or prerecorded or anything because they say all they said is. Are you a cat person or a dog person and she said dog person and they said well. Obviously you have a aw that's a wholesome. It just take calls from people did you. Have you ever owned a cat or you. Just don't care for cats. Oh there's a fall. We have a cat too. Just prefer the dog over the cat well. I could take the dog in the car with me. I can take the block with me. He helps me round the chickens up to get them back to think about. Is this all i thought i was doing my show. Is i really did think of a person getting in their car and driving to work for twenty twenty five minutes and can we keep them entertained. That was it now. I understand that got me in trouble sometimes and i was fine with that these people to their credit or like you know what i just. I want to keep my job. Fuck it dog or cat doesn't get any simpler than that. There's no conversation. I don't think simpler simpler than that unless i'm missing it a cat person or a dog person just play. I like that. I i hi to do a lot of magic one zero six point seven events so i meet a lot of their listeners young and not particularly male no. You're almost never right but the conversations -tations would sound a lot like this. Where would be some women go now. You know i got a cat and the dog. I can take the dog with me and i never occurred to me. I should be recording. This magic. Edged literally mentioned. That woman sounds like she's got an oxygen tank. Yes dog person or a cat person. I'm a cat person. Mcpherson believe a cat though all hold on one make. It seem like you just sit phone hunt like literally. There's no. I'm trying to think of a debate. That's more basic than that goes back to the ancient egyptians does i was i was there i the first dog or cat debate with moses. Yes moses like i'm fucking cap purse. It was like fine. Fuck you in this guy yeah. I was there the whole thing juice a friend of mine paper plastic. Where do you stand. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's what i'm saying you did. They take more calls on this two calls for no no. I talk walpole. Well i mean. I guess we have a long morning. Shows you tell them apart today. Mostly look alike. Oh this is still talking about that with that woman. It turns out has chickens so they get an oh. That's wacky so that's when the two of each other like oh my god. We've tap some real fucking magic right. We've got the gold. She has chickens. He says no this one's penelope runs florence and this one's nuno off. You might do me a favor. The big like real fake laugh like a big fake. Laugh doesn't actually hurt a little bit. It does it takes work actually hurts ah exertion to do that now now when you were taking calls from like the likes of steve from providence having having from bristol we love being very funny. <hes> did you ever think like this is funny but i'd like what are your dogs names but yes but i should have been thinking you know. Hey you wanna keep this job. Maybe you should do more than that but then again. I wanna make the money i made because the ratings were so high so i mean they're making no like the people mark manner talking about these right the people that the morning show a magic yes. It's morning magic very nice again. I'm done like giving sucking myself off for being number one like i beat the much coveted beat carson and kennedy. I beat them eddie beat anybody like i'm done. I'm done with the praise. It's over you consider toucher enrich competition. I mean i don't know i guess could we can we play some of your <hes> your new who <hes> competition the podcast world who's that i found a podcast from radio dot com and i think he might oh yes well. Well well first of all yes in the second second but i'm a dog person dog person you know what the cats. They can't give a shit about you. When you come home from work they'd eat you. Here's the thing dogs can take shit. Get near you and oh. Is that an issue right danielle. Now i feel there's been a little too much group think going on. I'm just saying from a cat person and we know that pussy and we don't know greg kills. Does a pussy isn't it. What do you mean it's only can talk about talks about off the mike pushing all the time off the air mike von ahn and i tell you i'm gonna tell me you tell me what obvious but. What are you telling you know but you're but you're telling me something. A new study study out says that sixty percent of guys who have dogs. Yes have bigger penises widely to see how you got those numbers. Let me let me hear this. Did you make any progress on your uh on their thing. We find out stuff about getting day. We've made some progress. We're gonna get okay. You seem nervous about this. You don't want to get an email to someone. I you gotta get a phone reach out to my sources at the pentagon yesterday about it. You're not going to believe the store. I'm gonna get into later in south dakota unbelievable leave of oh. You're not gonna believe it read about what's going on their incredible. You've got a baby is running for mayor. Get a baby is running for may. Are we doing the lead at the end a small town in south dakota. It's unbelieva mean. There's no age limit. Shouldn't there be i think so yeah i trust taking over the politicians we have now. The first in the the first beating is going to be like hey you know the new statue should be of is dora the explorer. What are they gonna make mandatory nap times. Ooh ooh diaper change. That's funny right. Yes that's why i found the story's unusual guy when the bathroom in florida in found founders toilet giants snake now you like to give a giant snake when you go near the toilet right but there was one in the toilet. What are you gonna do that. It's like the guy who walked in and there was a bear in his kitchen chin. I can't imagine start like starting a conversation with a florida man this week never know greg hill they. They have a whole segment on florida and they have salary f._x. Lord lord a stranger than most <hes> all right so this red thirteen studios read thirteen studios dot dot com. We're wrapping things up here thirteen right yes month and a half to go some time with month and we are. We still full steam ahead with a studio because i was making phone calls yesterday yesterday and i was kind of like i think we are. We're now. I haven't heard any now the two full show steve. I feel like you can now. We can now move on. That'd be hilarious. They fired thursday great. Three three shows the eleven fairway foxwoods. I guess i'm going home. Now could happen read thirteen studios dot com make sure look there today. If you podcast or music whatever you wanna do golf four prostate f. o. r. e. prostate dot org dot com dot org dot org dot org we crashed into the fence crashed the website yesterday yesterday <hes> and thanks for that fifty percent of use the code kirk kirk k. I r. k. Fifty percents off golf for prostate to play in the tournament <hes> thursday at the lake of isles right twelve thirty time we'll be there. I'll be there michael. Be there steve will be there. What are you wearing. What what are you wearing. Davey davey maushire nice barstool golf shirt shirt on. I'm bob. It'd be part of the team by mike. When you milton's aguirre there you go so. I asked the questions here okay wondering if the dress code wait. What are you wearing at that event but nuts shorts good yes. We're out my milton shorts. I can guarantee 'em milton saks underwear. We love the people at milton's chestnut. It's not hill <hes> chest and the braintree mall right. Yes there you go we go. The chestnut hill won. The won in braintree is awesome as well right in the middle of a mall. A millns z. Store for men were proud of their the clothing living sponsor of the kirkman hand show. We love millions. We love the people there go there. They show you support admirals. Make sure you do that trying to think. I felt like i had one of the things i wanted to get to you but i'm forgetting long one. Today isn't covered a lot of ground over two hours now we are. We did take a break. We'll be shorter if i cut out your p. Break in the soup joke yes who stumped on. It's a classic classic. You wanna mess with that. Wellesz going on your world. My giving you wanna promote me. No not really. I don't know traffic is done. Why don't you guys do something tonight so the problem is we're doing a livestream. He couldn't do a livestream because my producer is not around. Oh you can't do it today. No why not while there's a certain telephone going on oh that's true yeah. That's a good point producer where to the well annika. Who's that i don't want to say i don't want to spoil. His network of sources sources all the good information. He's smuggling never end unbelievable so i mean i yeah we'll see what happens a mike. Mike's in the middle of a war right now old show so i think i don't know i feel like we've we've now. We're now moving on our show. We were good that we did not receive taking right now. I mean well in eight weeks from now al hill post his d._d. Two fourteen url show that he served for deployment including afghanistan should in. I'll look like an asshole. I'll post public apology perfect grant and get sued so we're back tomorrow and then we're on the road. We taking the show on the road which should be interesting. I think that's gonna be the gamble mike. Are you gambler. I don't know if i'm in my room alone. Yeah sounds the thought you wanted to play blackjack sharing. Oh is that right exit slit twins. We could push them together. Do we have the rooms all set to anything we can just walk in. I didn't make a reservation. No did not make my reservation. Ooh passenger producers handled that kind of shift where wreck so yes take your room. It's not that all right back tomorrow. This was pretty reprehensible. I don't know how it can be anybody's idea humor.

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Week 7 Preview, Tua Starting for Dolphins, Jerry Jones is Dallas Problem

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Week 7 Preview, Tua Starting for Dolphins, Jerry Jones is Dallas Problem

"The GM shuffle is presented by draftkings the leader in daily fantasy sports. Champions League is back with every match streaming on CBS all access go to CBS DOT COM slash. UCLA. To Start Your free trial today. Walk me always the GM shuffled please support US apple podcast because subscribe rate and review. So a break in the world series last night. So Kelly give my wife a break as well for four kids. Let's go out for dinner had nice little meal in Jersey City French place called Madame bs I mean it was fantast little live jazz outside really good and I said, okay. When I get home I'm going to watch obviously the rest of the Giants Eagles Game I'm dvr airing it. I. Get home Mike Lombardi and it's midway through the third poor fourteen. Okay. Let's. Festival. Fargo. The DVR. Watch it and then I see this thrilling eagles comeback and they're able to win this game the down by eleven under five minutes ago went to the great past Boston. Scott. But I'M GONNA. Tell you. You know my first thought was eagles almost lost this game with these two point converts which I know has been a real sore spot for you were talking about previously on the GM shuffle old for three with two point converts I mean they almost lost this game Mike because there were down twenty one sixteen wherever the two point convert missed it. Then if they'd made that would have been down by. Three easily had a field goal but instead in winning it bottom line this yes. You want whence as a warrior at the whole office of is in shambles the giants should be embarrassed themselves will make fun of Daniel Jones falling in a second but these two point convert bikes are you kidding me I mean you know it's just goes on and on I mean the two point play was just you know what are we doing like seriously and then how about the you know they got the ball down on the goal line or their fourth and their fourth down of course, he goes for like I can't figure out anymore. Like if you set up like I'm going to set up a like the CIA has the department where they just analyze Putin in every movie makes you know in the movie Pat and we're had they had that guy that studied patent and he said patent wouldn't do this. So if you had a guy that studied Doug Peterson, you would be all screwed up because you can't predict what he's GonNa do. Like one year he's going on fourth down now he's kicking fifty seven yard field goals. Then he's not going forward then he's putting like I. There's no rhyme or reason. So you know it's like he's got all the people who was ever doing the analysis of him is like I'm confused right like I give up. So I mean. So here we are. Let's go back before the two point play he goes. In there and he calls, he's got his quarterback who has gotten a living dog shit kicked out of the entire game. Right and the kids said that Troy Aikman Andy said to buck. He said I'm still sore from Sunday of course naturally Doug doesn't think that's an issue they just run them. nope. Just keep running it so good just keep getting the shit beat out you know and when you're done we'll. Put We'll put somebody else in then. So on the third down play, they run quarterback drawl from the eight yard line like that's a hard call from the like that's not a call you. WanNa make from the YOU WANNA might WanNa, make it from the five in but you know you're not going to part the Red Sea Moses, ain't on the field you're not parting the Red Sea to get eight yards right? Like that's a hard call with a quarterback draw these guys react to. So he calls the quarterback draw he course he gets the shit knocked out of him. You know and I'm like are you kidding me and then the fourth down call just so let's just put this in perspective. He gets in there. It's the it's the game that we've got a win the game on this call he puts it a rookie. He puts it a second year player Hockey Butler from Iowa state who was a wide receiver with bad hands Iowa state who got drafted by the cardinals because he had. Great size he goes out there. He can't make their team. He can't really do anything he can't went on the outside everybody's says, let's make them a tight end. So they try to Matata and the eagles take them off their practice squad. He's never played in an NFL game before or made a catch in an NFL game. So here's what I'm GonNa do I'm GonNa go and I'm gonNA line him up outside and I'm GONNA throw in Alleyoop to him one of the one of the worst calls of all of football throwing alleyoop like it's fifty fifty it's a fifty fifty proposition, right? And now I'm throwing it to a guy who has important. NFL passes entire life who was at the beginning of the season I really don't know this guy just met him. You know like, how does that happen like? How does a billion dollar industry come down to that level of decision making I mean somebody's gotTa answer that for me like seriously we this is what we thought of on Wednesday on Tuesday afternoon. Hey if we get down the red area, let's put a Kim Butler in the game and we'll thrown out of the hoop to him in that a great idea. Yeah. That's a great idea. Let's do that. That's tremendous. Why do we think of? It was just your bull, your hair watching that game you if football is a chess match, we are still searching for bobby. Fischer because Doug Peterson and Joe. Judge. Of those guys are just masters in that game last tightly. Let's go specific player and we've the strategy like God cursor went to these draw plays in two point commerce enough place how about Evan Ingram and the drops have a Danny Jones running eighty yards falling like an imaginary sniper. Got Him like these are meme worthy moments like the low right now New York sports fans must feel it's embarrassing I it really is and I feel bad for Joe. I do I feel bad because I think what Joe has been able to do with the. Football giants is Joe's been able to do what he knows. He's been able to bring discipline to the team accountability to the team. He's done that but the problem is the head coaching position is the chief figure out officer. He's got no the game so well that he can walk down there and tell Patrick Graham Patrick with thirty I in an opponent's defensive third down conversion look I would like to do this this and this I know we're not great, but I want to do this. And then go down to the clapper. Walk into his office and say Jason Here's what I WANNA do I wanna be able to Joe can't do any of that he? He can't figure out And this is this is just not a knock like like the Great Justice Scalia once said I'm not attacking people I'm attacking ideas right I'm not attacking Joe attacking his foundation he's thirty eight years old he's a young coach he's never really coast on either side of the ball he's been a special teams coach so he can't walk down the door and he can't figure out what he could tell Garrett what he can tell. Patrick Graham, this is what we need to do like I don't WanNa do this I wanna be able to get good at this. He's at the mercy he's at the mercy of what they tell him. And that's really a hard thing and you know it's it's it's a it's a challenge because you know you wanna be able to say, what can what can he fix? You know like there their team ranks. They are the thirty, th the thirty first team in thirty second team in Russia's incompletions I mean there's so bad in so many do miracles stats the offensively it's embarrassing. You know and Andre Thomas over left tackle he's getting exposed out there I mean Daniel Jones is a nice supplier but he you're you're right he's Never GonNa win with him but Joe can't solve any of these issues like he can't say this is what we're going to do. So they look they look bad another sound ridiculous they look bad but they they actually they look good but they're bad is that make sense? I, mean they're poorly coached the sense they don't know how to strategically attack. You know but they were, but they have the discipline, the uniform all that looks good. But at the moment, the chess game starts using your Bobby Fisher analogy they can't play chess and they can only get to a certain level of chess. They're never going to beat a grandmaster. They're never gonNA go up level and and that's the problem that John Mara have when you decided to hire a guy with really no, you're getting. His program, but you're not getting any answers for the program. That's all said, the giants one in six. Now, the dregs of society here when it comes to NFC Eagles improbably two four and one lead the NFC east. The offense had looked better than ferris last couple of weeks. The fact that scored twenty eight against the Ravens I was still shocked by a week ago. But when Boston Scott is stepping up the touchstones minutes. Well. It is what it is. Eagles have to win the east right I mean don't the eagles have to win the east as bad as the cowboys look coaching wise and as bad as the cowboys are in terms of execution and everybody thinks to eagles are GonNa make some big trade, right? So the reality of the situation is and I think this is really important for fans to learn and understand is is that a lot of these teams are making moves Now. They're create like the everybody's making a big deal. The Eagles redid Fletcher Cox's contract. Okay. Well, the eagles redid Fletcher Cox's contract to basically allow them to have more flexibility in twenty twenty one because right now based on over the CAP, their sixty eight million. There sixty eight, million in the hole. If the CAP stays exactly the same if it goes down, you know they're in deep deep trouble. Now they'll Redo Fletcher Cox number again next year because he's got a huge paragraph five though by more room and they'll dump a bunch of these older guys but if they take on any captain and. I think this is what Minnesota decided to do with their trade. If they take on any capped at this year, it affects them for next year. So the cowboys redid a bunch of deals this summer, not because they wanted to add more talent to their team. This year is they wanna be able to take the excess of room. They have this year and dump it into next year. So the jets, for example, they have ninety two million dollars worth of cap space this year ninety, two, million. I mean you know even Paulie Walnuts would love the look that in his in his refrigerator wouldn't it? You know how many seriously I mean could you imagine if all nuts had ninety, two, million ad I mean think about that God imagine imagine the sweatsuits he would buy what? Ninety two million I'm sorry eighty, two, million. So they've got eighty two right. So what they're gonNA do with the eighty two million is is they're going to take the eighty two million they're going to roll it into next year. So instead of the instead of they're capping at, let's say one ninety, the capital go up for them eighty, two, million they'll just book all that the role that money in the next. Year. So every team is trying to get their cap in order to roll money into next year, and that's why teams are reluctant to take on players this year now that the ravens no problem they have cap room going into next year I mean the ravens are a really well run their caps excellent they they have they have thirty nine players on the roster next year they got forty, three, million dollars they trade for undock way, but they know that they're going. To get a compensatory pick for him anyway. So if they don't sign them for the twenty, twenty, one season hill eventually get signed by somebody the jets, the colts somebody and they'll get a reward for it back on the dollar. So that's what's going on and the Eagles who WANNA Trade Kurtz can't because he's hurt now, who wants them who's going to trade for Zach Ertz, take on a salary, and then have them stand next to me and watch the game. Yeah terrible timing for to get hurt because you're right. You just put Dallas Goddard and they are urged has been really good player. He wants to get paid as a top headline George killing right now, as you pointed out with their salary cap situation, they can't do that. I'll one on the frugality paulie walnuts no seen ever epitomised better than when he finds out his mother is not his real mother aunt and he takes back the TV that he'd give her like. All the things polly like this is a scumbag you are taking the TV back because this woman looked after your whole life you know what I love. I love what they're out to dinner when he's out to lunch with all those old ladies and he I love when he would snap his fingers. Now he's snap his fingers like that it was a great sound right and he told the way to get all the roles and put them in a bag of take him home like that is such an old Italian thing like if I ever went out to dinner with my lunch with my grandmother and my mother God rest or soul. She like. Leftover bread. Put it. In the thing we'll take it at home. We'll have it for breakfast tomorrow morning. seriously. Here's this hard fucking role and I'm going to have with breakfast I go down to down the street and get Benny to get me a fresh row. You know I mean Mr Benny, Mr Benny was the this old Italian Baker and ocean city. He made his own bread it's the greatest bread. You'll ever have your life. It only lasts one day one day as all the bread the you you see we can play baseball with the bread on the next day that clearly. So. So you go to Betty's and you walk in there and Betty look like a pharmacist. He had those you know those glasses that didn't have any over cover their ears they'd just put them on your nose and he had a white coat at every morning. My fat ass would ride my bike there and I'd get it like a cup I go byles. Witch school to take it the high school and I walk in there and I'd say, Hey, Mr Benny was called Mr. Benny. Hello young men and he didn't know my Nigga yellow young man and I'd say Mr Belly could I have a Salami and cheese with roasted peppers and well, you should young man and he would make his sandwich and I go to school. As well, you should young men with that Miami coach Brian Flores is stirring tongue of Isla is what's best for the team? That's right. It is now at time in south Florida couple parts of this one I think this was always the plan Mike. Let's just get to a little bit of time to watch Ryan. Fitzpatrick we got a by then we'll get him in there because clearly it didn't do a lot in garbage time he completed two throws for nine yards and November first is marking three hundred and fifty one days since that career-threatening hip injury and he's going to make his first nfl start versus the rams. So making this move now for. The dolphins like I said, they clearly must have had this all along. Let's just give me a few games to rest and just watch have a plug in there. But how about the comments from Ryan? Fitzpatrick. You don't often hear this kind of candor from a veteran player. He said I was shocked by it definitely caught me off guard. It was a hard thing for me to hear yesterday just kind of digesting the news my heart just her all day it was heartbreaking for me. He's thinking this could be the last football game we ever played Ryan Fitzpatrick I mean I don't know why he was. So surprised I mean I'm watching the game Monday And I'm thinking I'm watching the game. Sunday. Live and I recommend it on on on the the for I. Did it on my part I. Think I did it on twitter. The take the dolphins and lay the points and I'm watching and I'm up the lines I think it was nine or nine and a half, and you're up twenty four to nothing and I, and he's making fucking nervous. He's making me actually nervous that I did the wrong thing that I did the wrong thing it's like these these these betty recommendations are like they drive me insane if they don't go well, you know like last night I my my power rankings head the giants to take the giants of the four. And because it was a pick game I had this is a pickup game actually in my power rankings I had the giants as slightly better than the Eagles and and I'm not sure that's wrong. Right? I'm not sure that's wrong. But Anyway, the point is here is so fits he's making me nervous in the game. and. Then he throws a red zone interception. He throws another one. You just know he's waiting to become Fizi you know he's waiting and it's so fucking inept. They can't even get out of their own way to get a goal in right so you like God and then now he's shocked he got benched seriously like, Fizi come on know your role like you're never a leading actor. It would be like me going in there and say, you know I want Brad Pitt's role. You know like seriously like that ain't GonNa happen you know. I'm the guy on happy days. I'm our over there cooking in the kitchen like going to be Brad Pitt's roll like seriously like know your role it's like it's it's it's the biggest problem in most sports is players don't understand their role they have it over aflaid opinion of what their role actually is you as a coach you as an executive, you have to kind of constantly in a polite way without insulting them remind them of what they really what their. Role is yeah. The Rock says, no, your role it's what's gotTa be, and as far as to is concerned listen I don't know how he's an affair against the rams. You know the rams have some good playmaker on Defense Obviously Arendal on. But as you said, this was always the plan fifty seventh and Qbr seven nine point six. Hey, hopefully gonNA chance at another point in time the other major storyline from this week is about the Dallas cowboys and it's okay. To get criticized publicly by the media maybe a couple of players went to while sound off. But how about anonymous sources going off when it comes Dallas cowboys, NFL media's Jane Slater talked to at least two players who both took some time to anonymous be anonymously excuse me a voice, their frustrations with coach Mike. McCarthy, one of the most notable complaints came from one player who claim that the team had been totally unprepared for games. McCarthy then said the anonymous is. Something we don't WanNa recognize, but it's important to recognize anything and everything for teachable moment. The cowboys have one of the biggest disappointments in football this year there are two and four right now Mike McCarthy won a super bowl ten years ago Mike You on one hundred, twenty, five games of the packers. You can critic criticized some things about it, and you could say that he had a disconnected air rogers which led to his job, but if you call a coach unprepared. Fight words I mean this has got to be a really frustrating source verba carthy to have this kind of infighting this early in the game. Yeah. You know I mean I I wrote the column and the. And they took out the line? This is this is hurtful. They got the line and I said you and the line that I wrote. And I'm not saying I'm some great writer but the line I thought was applicable they took it out. I said that you know when I thought when they hired Mike. McCarthy. In Dallas, they were getting a really good beat cop. They were getting Jimmy. Malone and what turned out they got Barney Fife. And the head my editor said nobody knows who Barney fife is. seriously. Am I that old that nobody knows who barney fife is seriously everybody. Barney fife is one of the classic you know. I don't even know if Barney was a beat cop I mean, could you imagine the two of them sat in the office all day they were supposed to be policing I mean like seriously. But Anyway, I mean McCarthy. I'm disappointed a in that. He spent his whole off season that in that cabin up there it is home in Green Bay. and. He came away with Mike and Mike Nolan as defensive coordinator and some of the comments directed by the player and they know who the player is I know who the players I'm not gonNa say it but they know who the player is that said it the players well respected and lock roomy smart player. The other directed at two was Tomasulo who really was a good coach at? I'm CA-. I was counting on Tomasulo to make their D. Line play at a higher level and it clearly hasn't been the case and I think that if you're McCarthy again, the chief figure out officer if you're a McCarthy and you're watching the defense for six weeks, just blow coverages not play with fundamentals not play with techniques. Don't you come have a meeting and say Look Mike? Here's what we're GONNA. Do we're going to simplify the shit? We're going to practice what we call in the game. We're going to simplify it. We're going to work on our fundamentals where we're going to work on our technique. We're going to tackle better we're GONNA strip the ball. We're not going to run all this crazy as Lou Holtz seat Lou Holtz used to walk. The. Walk up the coaches. Hey, are you a schemer? Are you are you a teacher? You know in that list that he used to have Gamer Gamer Gamer he walked around the off a Gamer he's a fucking Schemer 'cause the coaches would wanna do five thousand things that that dumb players could do you know and Lou would just go crazy and say he's Gamer Gamer A and and beserk, and then the next thing would be Louis Lou being the head coach Lou was would say we're not doing that know no more scheming, just get the players to execute better and I think that's what's going on in Dallas and I think that's what the players are complaining about. They keep overloading more volume more volume more volume that looks wonderful on a blackboard. It looks great on the Greaseboard. It just doesn't come through when it when it needs to play. So I mean you know look I, wrote about it Jerry. AD, it's unbelievable Jerry Jones has since one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, twenty, five years. He's only been to the playoffs ten times. He's never been to a conference championship game since since two thousand, since one, thousand, nine, hundred, five never. In that twenty five years he got himself into the hall of fame. Like I really think that's the book I need to Right I. Really Think I need to write the book of football like just break down the hall and like us film video whatever and really. Separate. The hall of fame and the Wings, the PR wing these guys got in for pr these guys got in for their ability to play these guys. Because they played the game at the perfect time that maybe they wouldn't be as good today as they were. Then there's nothing wrong with it that just the game right and then you know these are the guys are probably are overrated. These are the guys that should be in the hall of fame you know and stuff like I. think There's a book out there like that Yeah I mean listen from your column. Like the fact you sit McCarthy is not Jimmy Malone. The boys are still doing exactly what Jones wants to do. McCarthy's not involved in the flow is essentially deciding wendy kicker when to punt why would McCarthy agree to coach the cowboys coach and the cowboys? Yes he gets paid handsomely. Yes. The cowboys market team, but this makes no sense and this was a key part of your article in the athletic garage everyone to read it. Jones's what people referred to in the business world is having the dunning Kruger effective management, their lack of self awareness greats avoid in evaluating their performance leading to poor results over an extended period of time, you would think Mike. With their brand equity with their money with that stadium with the amount of people who love the cowboys when play the cowboys keep prince money like as a businessman nobody's tonight Jerry Jones is incredibly successful when it comes to winning nineteen ninety-five. That's incredible. He's had such a such a dry spell. Do you think he just do you think he ever when he's on that helicopter rod from highland to to Frisco from his home in highland to Frisco that he thinks you know maybe I'm just not really good at this as he ever do. You think he thinks that you think he thinks like you know it's been twenty five years I haven't kissed the trophy. Got All these toys I mean you know like what? What did they say Batman? Where does he get those incredible toys? It's like, does he get all these toys like but you know he's got all the toys but he doesn't have any trophies I mean. If Jerry would just just. Just, get out of his way you know an enemy, the twenty five years, and no one talks about the greatness of how Jimmy Johnson really built. The team parcells had the greatest line of already he said he said, you know when he left the cowboys he said in ten years they won't even remember I was here. And what he meant by that was that I wish, I, Rem- I remember that somebody told me that line after I wrote the column and I wish I would have put it in there because I remembered it is basically what he's saying is all the work that I've done to lay the culture in the foundation and a change. The methodology within this building will in ten years nobody know that I tried to do that because it'll go revert right back to it it'll go right. Back to the substitute teacher, there's no discipline. Everybody reports to Jerry the Davis model which really you know Jerry claims he got the model from Al. Davis but the re the difference is Davis. watched. Watch video everyday Davis worked on football every day Al Davis could could put up a you know you could. You could not challenge XS and Os without Davis I mean he knew it he knew it. You know now he baby the players and he got love with scholarship guys I mean. We all have our own faults but Jerry's football acumen and like I wrote the column seen in the hall for his football accurate. I mean seriously he's in there because he's a great pr man and he's and this ability to convince us that his teams really good in the last twenty, five years they they haven't been is remarkable I mean you blow Tony Romo's career, right? You get you get nothing out of that. You have one of the greatest coaches of all time and parcells, and you still don't get to the final four, the dunning Kruger effect, and like you said, he learned this as You know I will work for Al Davis A guy who's GonNa be involved in everything and micromanaging only works to a certain extent. Eventually, you gotTA delegate the edit bringing different voices especially when you haven't had success for a long time. DOIN' tackle more trade deadline or you're mentioning briefly the ravens getting in Gakugei anymore trade deadline conversation on a dive into you know. I. Think we'RE GONNA see. Are, they called Rudolph they. They're going to try to dump him as mistake can I I wouldn't be surprised last night Evan Ingram I know teams have called on Evan Ingram the the giants say no even though the giants have cap issues, the team that I'm waiting to do something as Atlanta like I keep waiting for land a wake up and put some cold water on their face and say, you know what we we got some real issues I mean we're twenty, five million over the CAP. Next year, we only have thirty two players. Thirty five thirty, twenty, five, million over the CAP. If the CAP stays the same, we only have thirty two players. And you know. I mean I would hold a liquidation sale. You know I mean why? Like where are we going like seriously like where? I'm going GONNA go like Trade Julio. Crate. Trade Gary Jarrett you trade Alec Math if somebody will take them, you know trae trade these guys if if you can get something for them, you know. What are you doing I mean really what are we doing celebrated the wind up now you know they're not going to do that because remorse wants to win. He wants that job and get God, give them credit for it. But in the short term, he may win and he may give a and they may keep that job in the long term they're hurting their team. Yeah. At this point, you could say. Hey come on divest herself of your assets i. mean that's clearly what the Vikings did. In this case passer Yanagawa going to the Ravens Ball leads the NFL fewest points allowed per game seventeen point three. Now they've got a great pass rusher. Do you think the Falcons should just start selling the farm? You can always tweet us at 'em. Lombardi on twitter myself Adnan virk you can also follow shows instagram page at. The Gym Shuffled, you mentioned those moves being made Mike One more move, and then we'll get into some picks. The seahawks are one of the teams looking at Antonio Brown stop me if you've heard this before both the Seattle's quarterback Russell Wilson and Joe Smith our friends of Abe worked out them during the off season they remained in touch them organization intrigued by the idea of matching brown the MVP candidate like. Wilson in that offense, the NFL suspended Brown for AAC Games without pay for multiple violations of the League's personal conduct policy. The League. Announced in July. What do you think if you're Pete Carroll you WANNA bring the volatile the impetuous but also very talented Antonio Brown to Seattle I do if he promises me, he hasn't been on twitter or instagram lately like he hasn't done any of that right? He's actually been behaving. Who's ever representing them now he's actually doing a good job of cut down his you know he's not making noise. He's whether he's taken his medicine I don't know what he's doing but at least he looks like he's trying to behave. So for me. Yeah I mean I think Seattle Seattle is. A team that they really are more about they need to be able to. outscore people they're never gone out stop people they need to be able to outscore people and I think that ultimately that's going to be the key is they've got to be able to keep scoring and given Antonio Brown in their with their offense is they're never going to get to me Seattle in Tennessee are similar teams in the sense that they both are not good on defense and they just staffed be able to win with their offense Seattle as done it. They're undefeated. Tennessee, has done it. I mean Tennessee scored eighty two points in the first half so far this year you know you would think they would be the number one team in first half point. Differential they're not because their defense is very good. Their defense has kind of gotten away with it. They've gotten away from it because they've been able to hide it. 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What I'm GonNa do is is because of Cova I I like picking Games here I want people listen to the pod but also going to tweet out you know games where I see Sunday morning because I think what's really happened as I mentioned last week the lime movements on Sunday are fascinating. You know and we're seeing that I mean like last night the eagles that line opened up the eagles at six it. moved to it moved to closed at four and a half. It went down to four. The Lai Movement tells you a lot and I think Sunday follow twitter you know look up and I'll post all the pixel reposted picks his well perfect. Let's kick it off I of the steelers and the titans five zero for both of these teams. The Titans had sixteen days between games after their Kobe, nineteen outbreak and. Still Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry I've been getting it done Henry last week numbers were gigantic. Now he's going to face a great defense and the Pittsburgh steelers are particularly good against the pass of could make tough times tough at least for Ryan Tannehill and Ben Rothlisberger. Mike how about this thirty years of age is the best completion percentage rate. Now of his career is passing yards have been great touchdowns as well. I what do you think steelers at the titans to five and teams? Something's GonNa give something's gotta give something's gotTa give I mean you know and the reality here is which is really kind of interesting is there's been four times in the NFL where two undefeated teams this late in the season have played and the winner has gone onto the Super Bowl. So in nineteen seventy-three, the rams travel to Minnesota. Remember. That old twin stadium that they used to play to in Bloomington were now the mall of America sits the rams went in there. The Vikings one in that game ten nine wonder who had the under in that game and then two thousand and four the undefeated jets. Yes. That's right. The undefeated jets they went to They traveled to New England at five in the Patriots won thirteen to seven then owes seventy. Eight note Patriots traveled Indianapolis to face to seven and a colts. The Patriots won that Game Twenty, four twenty, and then in fifteen the six zero packers face to six zero broncos at Mile High in the broncos won twenty, nine to ten. So they don't those games don't happen very often but when they do the winter comes out and usually goes to the super bowl will that happen I don't know. Kovic going to throw everything up in the air but I think when you break down this game, I think the steelers offensively have been really have gotten better over the last couple of weeks are they. You saw what they've scored thirty eight points two weeks in a row against Philadelphia and Cleveland and Tennessee defensively is not good. You know I know he's the greatest football player of all time and I know that. When they signed Jadeveon clowney that most of the national media just said, it's the greatest football player. He's amazing. You know what he can do. It's remarkable. You know and I was you know and I kept saying at some point somebody's gotta look at the never had double digit sacks doesn't play in all the games and of course, he doesn't have a sack at all that the titans defensively are not good. They just not You know they're they're not able to really ever get control the game Buffalo was their best game by far defensively this year on the season they come back last week Houston scored thirty, six, Minnesota sort thirty, I mean Jacksonville scored thirty on him. So this is a game where what side of the ball, the weakness of the team we know the steelers defense is really good. We know the titans offense is really good I. Mean I think Arthur Smith should be on every head coaching list mean because the guy he Replaced who got a head coaching job in Green Bay? He's made this team better Arthur Smith is better than Matt Leflore just just just compare them right now, Arthur Smith doesn't have the CACHET that Matt, the Florida because he worked for Sean McVeigh of Course Arthur Smith got his Dad Fred Smith which could go a long way. But anyway, the reality of this guy's done an incredible incredible job there almost fifty percent on third down. But how about this? The titans defense gives up almost sixty percent third down conversions in the game. It's really remarkable how bad they are defense they give up over five point yards a carry you know they've allowed thirteen touchdown passes already this year and they've scored thirteen. So it's really really a bad defense. I like Pittsburgh here the line has moved all away Pittsburgh opened up as a favourite the line went now Tennessee. Now you're getting Pittsburgh in the points when I look at my numbers I have Pittsburgh should be the favorite. I. Don't Trust Gus Ski if you take if you take the titans in a close game. You're saying Gostkowski is GONNA. Make some tough kicks I. Don't know if that's going to be the case I. had this game as a three point favorite. I had Pittsburgh as a three point favor. Now, you're going to give me a point. I'll take Pittsburgh. Right next up seahawks take on the Arizona cardinals on Sunday night football. How about this matchup Seattle's five hundred Arizona's foreign to Russell Wilson versus Cuyler Murray. You've also got to premier wide receivers Josh. Hopkins currently leading all receivers receiving urge decay metcalf was first before the Seattle has the by now eighth but God just offenses alone like I feel like take the over. This is going to be awfully fun to watch seahawks are Arizona who do you got well I. Mean I'm not GonNa, pick this one because I'm never going against Russell, Wilson I mean that's just A. Rule I'm not doing it. But when you break this game down, they moved it into the Sunday night window. You know everybody's going to be on Seattle on this game and my power rankings I literally have Arizona ranked higher than than Seattle I mean I have Arizona's the six best team that's based on numbers, and that's based on who you've played. Arizona's strength of schedule is twenty nine so far this season. They really haven't beat. They haven't played anybody tough, right? You know and know they've lost to Detroit and they've lost a Carolina not the Carolinas an improving team Detroit's got some things that goes well for them. But the reality for me here is I'm not going against Russell Wilson but my numbers say take Arizona and the points I think that I have as Arizona should be slightly more than a three point favorite. Arizona getting any action on them whatsoever. I would I lean towards Arizona here I'm not recommending it. I'm scared of it. I I go to Ross I'm not going. I'm not watching a Russell Wilson destroy me again I'm just not doing it. You guys want to do go ahead feel free about to say get alerted lessons whatever happens to the past. The Chicago bears at five and one taken the La Rams foreign to this game I I'm really GonNa Watch closely might because I've seen enough of the bear so far this year and go hang on a second you really five and one like now with Nick foles and charge like their defense you playing out their minds, unallocated testing, Jared Goff, and obviously those two great receivers and Cooper Coppin Robert Woods bears on the road. I feel like rams of the pick what do you think five hundred embarrassed foreign to rams You know. This one's a hard one. Again, I'm not gonNA play it that the the. When you watch jared Goff every game, he's played against Chicago in that Defensive Front. It's been a real problem. It's been a huge problem and and he hasn't played well, and that bothers him I thought the rams played poorly last week up in San Francisco you know I can't imagine they're going to play as badly this week as they did. But when you break this game down I, mean you've gotta go with Chicago in this game I mean you you almost have to a lot of people. CHICAGO, hasn't beaten anybody Yada Yada Yada. But I think when you look at this, it's kind of interesting. The line has moved it open up at five and a half. Now you're getting six and the rams. That's a lot of points to get when I break down the game. A mind numbers I had the line should be four and a half. Now you're GonNa give me six I think you almost have to take the bears in a six point game I'm not again I'm not recommending it because I don't trust Nick Foles I. Don't trust the bears offense I have it as a six but but what my numbers say last week just for reference last week my numbers were ten and four the week before that my numbers were ten and four the week before that I was eleven and five. So the numbers usually are pretty good I just never have enough guts adidas state to stay with them. I talked myself out of them I mean it's it's really should be a psychological study like I just don't have the guts doing. Well, the numbers never lie. As long as you've numbers are burying the truth. That's good news like you said, eleven and five one more game discuss and once again. If you want Mike speaks 'EM LOMBARDI NFL Sunday morning post those for all your gambling advice and of course, by the way draftkings we love draftking. So that's the easiest way to make your picks. Ossie we can encourage you to check out those up to the betty lines by using the draftking sportsbook APP one more game to discuss the panthers are three and three. The New Orleans Saints are three and two Michael. Thomas is listed as questionable obviously wide receiver there for New Orleans how do you handicap match appear to teams the saints? Could be five hundred with a loss was carolina could be making some noise with Arrow training up. You know this is I mean Arizona's I mean excuse me Carolina has just been beat up. I mean they've got so many injuries that you know but they played last week they had a chance last week I mean they're driving down the field they got a wide open on fourth down they got a wide open seven cut to Dj more and bridgewater just made a bad throw in it. I mean I like Carolina's team you know. I, love. Matt Rule I like everything about Matt Rule. I, think this is a close game I. Think Carolina's going to be a popular pick come Sunday. I, think I have it as a two point three, seven game you know and you're getting seven and a half in this game Carolina I don't play because my sons there I can't play Carolina I think it'll be a great game Carolina's defensive front starting to play really well burns the kid they drafted in the first round last year Derek Brown they're going to be. Able to put some pressure I. Think you know Pete Teams that watch the saints now Michael Thomas. Pulls. His hamstring earlier in the week. Can he come back and play I? Don't know you know they say he's a fast healer we shall see but you know I lean towards Carolina. Once again on Sunday morning I have all I'll have at least four picks foia Sunday morning. So pay attention right I. LOOK FORWARD TO THAT COMING UP NEXT O. OPRAH THE GM shuffle mailbag answer question at Sam Darnold and the jets that's next. Hey football fans are you an Amazon prime member? Did you know that you can watch Thursday football live on prime video? That's right. 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Mean Huge steelers Fan I'd love for them to grab him for the Post Ben Era. Love the pod stay safe I don't think Ben's ready to go just yet but yes, he is in his late thirties right now. I. Think the jets from the driver's seat Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes. So I think they'll draftsman donald we'll go somewhere haven't looked at Mike where he could go but Pittsburgh got if SAM darnold goes to Pittsburgh if greater but his life yeah I mean look they're gonna you know there's going to be a lot of teams interested I. Think Could Sam Darnold because I feel like the Ryan Tannehill like so Ryan Tannehill coach by Adam. Gays you know and I was I was not a big believer in Ryan Tannehill I thought when the game played when a game got fast on third down especially in the numbers verified it that he couldn't play fast. But in this offense, you know with a lot of play action and the way Arthur Smith is set it up Tannahill has proven to be a better player for Arthur Smith, he ever was for Adam Gates. And so. You know there's going to be a moment of that. That's going on with Sam Darnold. You know he's a good kid. You know my son Mick coach Dome is he works hard. There's a lot to like about Sam. darnold. You gotta straightened some things out. You gotta get the turnovers but I don't think he's been in the systems enough had systems change on them quite a bit. I think he's GonNa. Get a lot of action. I think Indianapolis will be a team that certainly looks at them. You have to believe that you know you have to believe Pittsburgh will look at you know giving away an asset. I think that's going to be the case. I think the jets will get a lot. Not a lot you know but I think they'll be supply-demand. So you only get a lot when teams when there's Competition. You know you know not all the teams picking in the first fifteen picks of the draft. Give a one I doubt that will the teams picking on the bottom half the draft give up a one. I probably think. So we'll some teams in the top of the second give up to if they wanted them maybe so I think a lot of it's going to be pretended but I don't think. You can predict that now everybody saying, well, the jets won't get much for Darnold. You can't say that right now because you don't know the supply and demand, it's really based on the economics of the situation. No question because some team will listen. This guy is a good quarterback in our system. He can be a great quarterback and quarterbacks always at a premium even of Donald hasn't shown that as of yet. Closing thoughts or you mentioned Jerry Jones and his house is still think draft night yacht, which was incredible to think about where he he's thinking about what he's there and he's sopranos question on who wants to be a millionaire. My brother texted me last night. Here is the question I know Mike is going to get it because I got it right away. But for all of you playing along for one hundred, twenty, five, thousand dollars in the infamous cut to black final scene of the Sopranos Tony and his family are sitting in a booth at a restaurant snacking on what a shrimp. Cocktail be onion rings C- Chicken, Fingers de Nachos the answer Mike of course is onion ranks the best of the best scenario halston ranks who wouldn't love pulse of Tiffany Haddish by the way got the answer. Wrong. She said shrimp cocktail McRae kidding do you think do you think Tony and his family to sit down for shrimp cocktail? No, they're having first of all I mean if you just if you just analyze the questions, shrimp cocktail is in something you share shrimp cocktails something that comes to you and you might give somebody something, but it's not a the plate that you share. You might pass it along. But when the question is asked, are you sharing something? It's gotta be like, Nachos you share. Onion rings you share French fries you share so you know that's it. Tiffany. Haddish thumbs-down shrimp cocktail she said she didn't even didn't even parse the question incorrectly. As always we appreciate your support, you could follow at 'em Lombardi NFL. Once again, if you want his picks betting vice us draftking sportsbook APPs same as his twitter handle between those picks on Sunday, you can follow me in s fork and of course, our show page at the GM shuffle we get some great games coming up. Makes you join some Monday stay safe? We'll talk to everybody.

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CBS Sunday Morning September 23, 2018

CBS Sunday Morning with Jane Pauley

45:23 min | 2 years ago

CBS Sunday Morning September 23, 2018

"Uh-huh. Good morning. I'm Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning the first Sunday morning fall. The change of season reminds us that we're approaching the six anniversary this December of the sandy hook. Elementary school shooting the emotional wounds of that massacre are far from healed and made all the worse by a bizarre and ongoing battle. Between fact and fiction, Tony dokoupil reports cover story. Trendy hook is a synthetic completely fake with actors. In my view, manufactured for years. Alex Jones America's premiere peddler of conspiracy. Theories has adjusted that the shooting at sandy hook. Elementary never actually happened officials. Story of sandy hook has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. It can take a big chunk out of your faith in humanity. If you let it. Ahead on Sunday morning, how some families of the victims are fighting back. One of the true legends of American music is being honored with a year long celebration. He's Leonard Bernstein born one hundred years ago and the long gone still very much in the hearts of his fans, our Morocco among them. From the concert hall, its own JR Rodway stage done block onto the television screen. Leonard Bernstein was the ultimate crossover artist. There was something about my dad that just connected with everybody, people call them, Lennie people call them. Lennie didn't think twice about it. The life and legacy of Leonard Bernstein ahead on Sunday morning. On a different note Murphy's back Murphy Brown. That is a TV news spoof from the past rebooted. For our times as Lee Cowan will show us. He was a show that found itself at the center of the culture wars of the nine prime time. TV has Murphy Brown mocking the importance of fathers. Now, twenty years later, the show's called Murphy in the morning. They're not firing me. Let me Brown in the gang are ready to do it all over again today names Matt Lauer, Charlie rose and Bill o'riley ring any bells part of you that just couldn't wait to get back out this. Yeah, I couldn't wait Murphy in the morning on Sunday morning later. Martha Tosh ner looks behind the headlines in the bread cavenaugh supreme court confirmation fight. Rita braver talks with legendary Hollywood, super agent, Michael Ovitz and more coming up. When are Sunday morning podcast continues. Business editor at axios right now. You can download subscribe and here pro rata. The first podcast from axios we talk about the collision of politics, business technology, things like election hacking or the battle over three d. printed guns or the Washington DC blowback against big tech platforms like Facebook and Google listening subscribe to axios pro rata. Now it's free on apple podcast, radio dot com wherever you get your shows to get smarter faster. We begin this morning with the battle of fact versus fiction a battle pitting parents mourning the shooting deaths of their children at sandy hook, elementary school against purveyors of the most mean spirited outlandish of myths. Our cover story is from Tony dokoupil. Event your show. A bit of a cold that morning. He woke up with sniffles. What was he looking forward to in that month? We'll Christmas every holiday was a special at for Jesse. It was December twenty twelve when a twenty year old man walked into sandy hook, elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, and opened fire. They were just little babies. They were no more than maybe. They had no shelf defense or new self defense was Neil Heslin son Jesse, and David Wheeler's son, Benny. We're both just six years old. Those are the facts of the story. In every day sense. The people of Newtown, especially all twenty six families who lost a child or a loved one have slowly tried to move forward. But Neil Heslin David Wheeler are part of a small band of sandy hook families that feel they have no choice, but to look back to stare down in outlandish myth and the people who spread it sandy hook is a synthetic completely fake with actors. In my view manufactured for years, the online provocateur Alex Jones and others like him have argued that the shootings at sandy hook, elementary never actually happened. The official story of sandy hook has more holes in it than Swiss cheese that they were staged with paid actors, including Neil Heslin and David Wheeler themselves along with dozens of others, residents, law enforcement, even journalists, all. All actors, but it took me about a year shanty hooked to come to grips with the fact that the whole thing was fake. And as for the children who died well, the fiction argues, they never lived in the first place for me personally. It has in my more vulnerable moments, felt like. Complete denial of my life in my more vulnerable moments has felt like salt in the wounds. And it can take a big chunk out of your faith in humanity. If you let it which is why earlier this year both fathers along with other sandy hook, families filed suit against Alex Jones, who may feel is mainly responsible for spreading these bogus stories. Then Patrick Moynihan said thirty years ago, many times repeatedly you're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. He was kind of joking, but then and we've come to this place where many, many, many millions of people feel absolutely entitled to their own facts. Kurt Andersen is the author of a history of delusional thinking in America. When you create a story like sandy hook, he says, all sorts of wild ideas to cold after the free willing sixties. You know, I can think what I want. You know what you say is true, isn't my truth and then exploded with the rise of the internet. Net. There's a good reason to question this whole suddenly those hundreds and then thousands and then tens of thousands, then hundreds of thousands people could find each other recruit more people set up websites to put out legitimate looking arguments for these things. But Anderson says the sandy hook deniers as they're called are a special breed motivated. He thinks by fears that Amash shooting of young children might spur stricter gun laws. If you had to point to a single reason why sandy hook in particular has become a focus of conspiracy theorist, what's the reason it's guns if twenty six people had been killed by a guy, running them down with a car, it wouldn't have taken off the way. This one did David Wheeler suspects Anderson may be right. I don't remember exactly when this particular piece of mail came, but it was simple below with a piece of ruled notebook paper in it. All they had on this piece of paper was to transcribe the text of the second amendment. That's all they did. Still at first both fathers say, they tried to laugh off the fake claims, even once adjusting Wheeler had not one, but two roles in the massacre playing both a grieving father and agent. Have you seen the picture of you split screen with the FBI. Congratulations. You found two middle-aged, jolly white guys in Fairfield county, Connecticut. Remarkable drop them off at school. Then last year, Neil Heslin went on television to directly dress the sandy hook deniers. I wash my Sean. I buried my Sean. I held my shown what a bullet hole through head that is not possible after which the harassment only got worse. We've looked at all sides, but I mean it's phone three dollar Bill to hear Hessler Intel. That's because Alex Jones is falsehoods shared with an audience in the millions, got even more personal and that became dangerous. I've had many death threats. You know, people say you should be the ones with the bullet hole in your head as you picked this location. Just she's mom actually picked. It. Heslin says the lawsuit emphasize is interest in putting an end to what's now become ears of despair, made worse by the deniers, labeling him a liar in his son of fake. Do you regret giving the interview that led to the most reason round of denials? You regret saying you held your son with a bullet hole in truth. You know, part of my storage part of jesse's legacy or his story or his string and. It's fact David Wheeler says, his lawsuit was prompted by his belief that Alex Jones profiting from the lies and fabrications, that's when I thought this can't I have to. We have to do something as a society collectively, we have to do something. What about people like him? There's always another. Well, if there's another like him that tries to do the same thing using the same tactics, then he'll have to go away to. We need to make sure that everyone understands that this is not, okay. There are limits. This is a very tough case for Alex Jones too, because the claims he has been making are so particularly because what he has said. Is so. Appalling Floyd Abrams is a respected first amendment lawyer famed for defending publication of the Pentagon papers. During the Vietnam era. Abram says, Alex Jones may have gone well beyond the protections of free speech. Anything's the consequences could be severe. This is the sort of case in which a jury could could say we have to award vast amounts of money to punish him and to tell other people that saying such things as simply unacceptable. Do you think the outcome of these cases could put Alex Jones info wars out of business, whatever money they have and whatever the level of insurance they have. This is a deeply threatening caged to persisting in their business. We asked, Alex Jones is legal team to comment on this story. We got no response children died, but since he's. Lawsuits were filed Jones seems to have changed his views on Saito world shootings happen. I think Santa happen still his rhetoric has gotten him kicked off every major social media platform. Apple has stopped offering his show. And most recently pay pal which handles transactions for Jones is online store has said no more. As for the sandy hook families, they're still trying to heal to go forward guided by the memory of those they lost and something else says David Wheeler. The lasting lesson in all of this is that we are really only here for one reason. We are here to take care of each other, and that is the legacy of this time. Before there were podcasts there was television. Remember, see what's new under the sun every Sunday morning. And now a page from our Sunday morning almanac September twenty. Third eighteen sixty nine one hundred forty nine years ago today the day that saw the birth in rural Ireland of Mary Mallon remembered today as typhoid Mary. She emigrated to New York in the eighteen eighties where she built a career as a cook to the wealthy in one thousand nine hundred six families. She cooked four on long, island's posh Gold Coast, contracted typhoid, fever disease more commonly found in crowded slums. An investigation determined that Malan was a healthy carrier of the disease able to pass it onto others by handling food while exhibiting no symptoms herself. Sensationally labeled by the press as typhoid. Mary Mallon was quarantined released and quarantine again living out her days at an island hospital where she died in nineteen thirty eight at the age of sixty nine gone for eighty years typhoid Mary is hardly forgotten a reputation as a pariah forever. Invoked in our popular culture as in this exchange on the big bang theory. I don't want to sit by myself typhoid Mary set and clearly her friends buckled. Public health experts still debate the ethics of how their profession treated Mary now, and but there's no doubting the long shadow. She continues to cast as typhoid Mary. As we've told you, Christine blase, Ford has agreed to testify this week about her allegation of salt by supreme court. Nominee Brett Kavanagh Martha Tosh. No takes us behind the headlines. In focus right now is doing everything that we can to make Dr Ford comfortable with Senate Judiciary committee, chairman, Republican, Charles Grassley. This past week has been all about optics how stage-manage Brett Kavanagh's confirmation vote fast before November's midterm elections. But at the same time to look like the embodiment of sensitivity toward Christine, Blasi Ford call it Grassley is I know the entire judiciary committee's Anita hill problem. People are asking how we could have let your statements slip past us. How could we have had the committee vote without airing this matter? Grassley is one of three senators still on the committee who were there in nineteen ninety one for the spectacle. Four. Eighteen white men confronting law professor need a hill over allegations of sexual harassment against then supreme court nominee. Now, Justice Clarence Thomas professor hill. You said that you took it to me that judge Thomas one of the half sex with you. But in fact, he never did ask you to have sex. Correct. Now, he did not ask me to have sex. He did continually pressure me to go out with him, continually millions of women voters with long memories were offended. Are you a scorned woman. They had no idea how to handle this. And I have to say, I don't think they took it very seriously. Nina totenberg Legal Affairs correspondent for NPR, broke the Anita hill story and is covering the replay. This is an election year after all, neither the Republicans nor the Democrats wanna look insensitive. But it is a very political preceding a great deal of what we see on camera will be and has been role playing in the New York Times. Last week he'll wrote that the Senate Judiciary committee appears to have learned little from the Thomas hearing much less the more recent metoo movement. So can this week's hearing buffet there do either Blasi Ford or judge Cavanaugh confirmation hearings are never fair. It's the nature of the beast. It's pretty raw politics. Jake. Man like this and besmirch. What is this White House afraid of? What is this president afraid of? We don't want us to be a three ring circus and I just want to say to the men of this country just shut up and step up, do the right thing. You've watched the fight. You watch the tactics, but here's what I want to tell you in the very near future. Judge Cavanaugh will be on the United States. Supreme court has always been a political body, but it hasn't always been a weapon in the wars of polarization. And that's what we're seeing. Jon Meacham is a Pulitzer prize winning biographer and author of the soul of America. Essential thing to remember here is that ever since nineteen sixty two, which was the school prayer decision. The supreme court has been at the center of the conservative agenda for power. This was clearly advanced as well by Roe versus Wade, but you didn't have these kind of confirmation battles. You have them now because every seat is seen as a chess piece in the struggle for power Republicans. Remember the defeat of Reagan nominee, Robert Bork in nineteen eighty-seven a campaign so agree that work became a verb meaning to kill someone. Politically, it is a presence constitutional right to know. Dominator supreme court Justice, and it is the senate's constitutional right act as a check on a president and withhold its consent. Democrats were apoplectic when Senator Mitch McConnell refused for nearly ten months even to hold hearings on nominee Merrick, garland, running out the clock on the Obama presidency. You know, I dearly the Senate should be unpire American life. The constitutional structure was set up so that they would be the the saucer in which the milk cooled right now the Senate isn't doing that. So where does that leave this week's? He said she said, and the vote on judge Kavanagh's nomination that will surely follow all these interests with of an investment in the outcome are more interested in pressing ahead to Russia vote than they are in finding out the truth. And I think that that's one of the reasons a moment like this is going to create even more division in a country that a lot of thought couldn't be much more divided. Hey remains one of music's indisputable legends Leonard Bernstein, this year marks the centennial of his birth, and among those celebrating, you can find our Morocco. It's hard to believe that Leonard Bernstein was just one person in the concert hall. He was the classical music world's first American-born superstar conductor. Down on Broadway. He wrote the music for legendary shows, including west side story. Nine. And on television, but makes American music on America. He played pied hike for millions of future music. But he was even bigger than the world of music Bernstein seemed to know everyone and be everywhere when try a little Bernstein math who plus who, plus who equals Leonard Bernstein. Oh, I don't know. What's your idea? I'm going to go with Lin Manuel Miranda plus Gustavo doodo Mao plus beyond say. My dad would have loved that, but he's probably would have liked it if you'd put in Elvis and Michael Jackson, Jamie Bernstein is the first of Leonard Bernstein's. Three children Samuel Bernstein was fully expecting his son Leonard to take over the hair and beauty supply business. She took me through the Grammy museum exhibit. Now touring the country in honor of her father's one hundredth birthday. Or a worldwide celebration of his life and work. The exhibiting Kluge the piano. His aunt Clara gave the family when Lenny Bernstein was just a boy living in Brookline, Massachusetts. The story my father used to tell is that he wandered over to end Clara's piano and touched the keys. And, oh no, the shaft of light came down from the heavens and he just knew in that instant that he had to be musician burns done now, conduct Schumann's men, Fred, over your. Even in the midst of World War Two Bernstein's debut conducting the New York Philharmonic made front page news and how old was twenty five twenty with a kid passionate that he brought through his music making was contagious clarinettist. Stanley Drucker played with Bernstein for forty years, going around the world with philharmonic with Bernstein as a conductor might. You were treated differently. Oh, it was a big stir everywhere we went. He was big news, earn Stein was named musical director or the philharmonic in nineteen fifty seven a time of stunning productivity for him in September of that year. West side story opened on Broadway. The movie soundtrack would top billboard for a record fifty four weeks when you're get your debt all the way from your first cigarette to your last dyin day. Then in nineteen fifty, eight Bernstein's young people's concerts premiered on CBS the going up to get an answer the dealt with get and when did he sleep did not see. He really didn't much. He was a terrible insomniac and the only upside of that is that he got a lot done. The young people's concerts starred Lenny the educator, even feted. Here was a man on a mission to open the ears and hearts of kids to music. Jamais tobin. To the Beatles. If you can. I'm feeling. If it seems like Leonard Bernstein was trying to do it all. That's because he was as he told Edward r Murrow in nineteen fifty-five, whether it's writing it or playing it or conducting it or studying or teaching it as long as it's music. I like it and I do. Do you have any trouble keeping up with Lenny's activities. Hot and my mother was such an amazing woman. She was so devoted to my dad, Felicia Monteiro. Allegra Chilean-born actress was married to Bernstein for twenty seven years. Then you know, their relationship was complicated. It was not a simple business. She knew that he was by sexual and they went into their marriage with eyes wide open. They knew it was going to be a challenge. She knew that going in, she knew going in and they did it for a really long time. It got a little complicated there in the last years before my mother died the couple separated for year during which time Bernstein pursuit of relationship with a man. Eventually, he just came back. I think it was hard for him to live as an openly gay men. It was only the seventies and it was still kind of hard to do that. And the truth of the matter was I think he really missed his family. After his wife's death in anguished Bernstein began having. Serious doubts about his accomplishments as he told Mike Wallace on sixty minutes in one thousand nine hundred eighty writing music is. This may sound strange to you? The most important thing I can do. The main disatisfaction is there for that I have written so little music. I mean, when you add it up, it's not a very long list. Do you think he ever worried that by crossing so many lines? There was a danger of of not being a dilettante, but of maybe not being as great in one thing as he could be. He did worry about spending not enough time with each thing that he wanted to do. He never felt he had enough time to compose, but that's because he spent so much time conducting it Celso so good to conduct orchestras all of the world and have these audiences to come apart at the scenes with excitement and Abdellatif. Nineteen eighty nine Bernstein who've spent decades breaking down barriers in music went to Berlin when it's wall came crashing. Now. Was the most moving concerts I've ever been in. Stanley Drucker plane. What came to be known as the ode to freedom. I don't know how. That performance, the emotion stretching out those melodies that extent like he wanted never to end. In less than a year. Leonard Bernstein would be dead at seventy two could even be Leonard Bernstein today. I don't know. It's a different world. There was something about my dad that just connected with everybody. It's just a thing. You can have its steriods. He just had that. Coming soon. Mobutu Aries apart, cast on matters of death and life from more Raka. For money years. The biggest and often most feared power player in Hollywood was Michael Ovitz who changed the way the business of show business is done. He has many a story to tell and he's telling them to redo braver. I had a goal from day one which was to win, and I wanted us to win at all costs. Neat seventy one year old. Michael bits as leader of creative, are this agency known as CA he was once the most powerful talent agent in Hollywood. Give me a sample of the roster when you were running CA. Paul Newman Robert Redford Dustin Hoffman. Bob de Niro, Barbara Streisand Meryl Streep. We handle directors like Steven Spielberg, Ron Howard Sanley cubic Morty Scorsese Panova it signed Sean Connery. The actor was in a career slump and it's worn off the role of JAMES BOND. But Ovid's convinced him to do the aptly named never Saint never. Again, I major what. Still dry. Got yes gun, but Ovitz is Crowder of coaxing Connery into playing police officer, Jimmy Malone in the nineteen eighty seven film the untouchables people's a knife. One of us to hospital and you wanna history, knock. The. As he didn't want to be the guy, he didn't want to be the old guy had a play without a to pay, and he had a play it as an older, more imminence grays type of character. And he was needless to say, brilliant in the role Connery won an Oscar. As its details in his new memoir. He was raised in the San Fernando Valley, the son of a liquor salesman in nineteen sixty eight. He graduated from UCLA married his college sweetheart and applied for a job at William Morris, a prominent Hollywood talent agency said, you're hired ov-. It started in the mail room and soon got his first promotions. I got to be the assistant to the president and was put in a position that gave me an amazing overview of the company in nineteen seventy five Ovitz decamped with a few other agents to found their own firm CA they were broke, but wanted to make a splash and you actually at one time took l. alone and bought five Jaguars or the five principal partners perception in Hollywood. In those days was ninety nine percent of the law and people not. That Lear driving Jagger's of what those guys must be doing. Really good Ovid soon became the leader of CAA also developing a reputation as a tough guy driving hard bargains and poaching clients like fame director, Sydney Pollack directly from other agents. You had almost a military mentality in how you push these deals forward and also how you were willing to destroy anything and everyone in your path. Rosenthal may be a bit of an overstatement. I don't think that we are willing to destroy anything. Everybody. I do think that we were willing to take on a lot of casualties, and we did leave a lot of bodies in our path. It was over two spearheaded. David Letterman's move from NBC to CBS Mike Ovitz. These come in. It's wonderful. The story told in HBO's film, but late shift with treat Williams laying Ovitz frankly. We have worked out a career plan for David, and it includes securing everything for Dave that he wants. Everything obits and his partners at CA would also revolutionize the movie industry by frequently demanding that studios use their clients. Writers directors, actors as a package deal in a particular film. Take Raisman released in nineteen eighty eight. It's studded with CA clients. Barry Levinson directed and Dustin Hoffman stores as an autistic man, you're going to have to get on a point yet get on a plane who is discovered in an asylum by his younger brother played by Tom Cruise, all their lines have crashed at one time or another. That doesn't mean that they are not safe. Qantas sponsors. Number crashed. All the people in the industry thought that was a bad idea. You're was one of the many articles that were written about us saying that we were idiots and stupid, and the Tom Cruise couldn't be doesn't often brother. It would never work Rainman. Mark John Wayne men would win four Academy Awards, including best picture best director and best actor. I think my agent Mike Ovitz. Harassing see a would have a hand in a snow of films that are now considered classics. But after twenty years, Michael Ovitz his cutthroat ways swing clients, intimidating executives, even riding roughshod over his own partners had taken him as he writes from being the most powerful man in Hollywood to the most feared to the most hated in nineteen ninety five. He decided to quit being an agent and become number two at Disney to Michael Eisner, a close friend who also had a ruthless reputation. It didn't work from day one. I tried and failed. It was one of the biggest failures of my life Ovitz and then started a new business to manage talent and develop digital content. But when that too failed, you made headlines because you told Vanity, Fair reporter. That you'd been done in by Hollywood's game off the game via real. Still a debate today, whether I said not, but I'll own up to it. And I guess I said it. I think that I filled an enormous pressure coming from a lot of people in the business. It was a giant mistake and something that never should have been said. And as you get older, you live and learn. Today over a new gig, advising, Silicon Valley companies and in new life. With three children grown. He and his wife gone their separate ways anti now, lives with tomorrow Mellon who co-founded Jimmy Choo shoes today. When Michael Ovitz looks MAC. It is with both pride and regret. I felt that we were very kind of the people that were on our team and on our side. I feel we weren't kind to people that were on the other side of the line that we drew are in your way or in our way this we pushed them out of the way, and we did it. We did it with a lot of skill. The venom, you scared the hell out of me. Its Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Jane Pauley Candice, Bergen in the late Robert pastorale in the very first episode of Murphy Brown from nineteen eighty eight. Now, thirty years later Murphy's back a new version of the hit comedy premieres Thursday night here on CBS. Lee Cowan takes a look back. I don't look forward. Thirty million people tune in to see me every week. It's been twenty years since Candace Bergen took her final bow as Murphy Brown. Sorry, Jim, this bay can't be fictional newswoman many real life journalists secretly wished they could be really like you to do the interview, but if not, he's going to give it to Jane calling the big j. Sure. We'll have a good long run Tennessee's the cast and crew earning their fake news room. A slew very real EMMY. Did finally ended in nineteen ninety eight. Most thought it would go where most sitcoms go. Maybe a DVD box set or reruns on Cape, but then came election night twenty sixteen with untold. The Hillary Clinton has called Donald Trump to concede to say, didn't exactly go her way. It was just grief frankly, for. Till. Into now Murphy's back on the air hosting Murphy in the morning just in time for the mid cold and flu season is approaching. So get your shots pull out, you're having winter coats and Ruth Bader Ginsburg stay away from brats, please. This some level, and we're clear activism in a sitcom. Well. Yes. We haven't really articulate it that we consider ourselves resistance, but I think that's a subtext. Certainly at Bergen side is the woman who created Murphy Brown show runner and writer Hanning's. So if Hillary had won because probably wouldn't be here. I don't think so. I don't think so. We didn't feel like we should go back and revisit it unless there was a real reason to do it. This was the reason. Well, it got us pretty close, you know. But when you look at what's going on on the front page of the newspaper, every day, that's what us over the top really wouldn't work. Of course, unless the rest of Murphy's gang felt the same way, what a perfect time for Murphy Brown, a reporter, and Frank and quirky reporters to come back and start covering some of the madness. Never meet a woman work. These crazy hours. Joe wriggle Bhutto faith. Ford and grandchild were anxious to return two years on the view will kill me. Was it a strange thing to kinda Rian habit character you hadn't really dealt with in twenty years. I was like, sort of concerned about that because my character was based on being young and in over his head. And I thought, you know, if I'm sort of freaking out at my age now, is that going to be awkward old? Now I'm just old Garad and it works the two babies talking about being. Fills bar sitting in Murphy's, Washington, watering hole. It looks just like the original. I really miss Phil. He always gave the best advice difference now though, is tiny TV better. Serving the worst coffee into here we go, you wanna talk and I thought cleaning the men's room was going to be the worst part of this job. Why can't they hit a target that big movies. Georgetown townhouse had to be recreated too. So when you saw this the first time, what was that? Like? What tears came to my eyes because it's almost identical to the set that we had when we started thirty years ago, I walked in with faith and Candace was already crying on the set. I was a hate. I was just a heap. I wasn't expecting it. We're home again and you don't go home again, but we came home again. What does it mean to be home again in such different time? Tough issues in the nineties and the show dealt with them everything from alcoholism to cancer lumpectomy mastectomy. I mean, I like my breasts fine, but they're not worth dying. Diane English hopes, the numerous he Brown will be even more topical. Journalists are the only real firewall between power-hungry politicians and the people they were elected to serve. Someone told me that once who storylines already include gun control immigration and that Clinton sexual harassed. Hello. The show's called Murphy in the morning. They're not firing. Do the names Matt Lauer, Charlie, rose and Bill o'riley ring. Any bells we have thirteen were here to make some noise were expecting certain amount of backlash, yeah, but we to get it in the old days to most notably MAC in nineteen Ninety-two when Murphy became a single mom. Which brought this famous rebuke bearing babies responsibly is simply wrong from then vice president, Dan Quayle prime time. TV has Murphy Brown mocking the importance of fathers by bearing a child alone in calling just another lifestyle choice. Some of the new cast members aren't even old enough to remember that backlash guess he's back from America's heartland, including Jake McDormand who plays Murphy son. Now, all grown up actually hadn't seen any of the original series hadn't seen anything. No, I knew about it, but I hadn't seen any of it. So did you go back and look at older until after the first episode which really smart move? Because it's intimidating good. What maybe most intimidating, however, is the idea of the current White House reacting, I'm terrified. I'm terrified. The done Roca's character is especially timely. Can I get some more ice please with that. With that. He plays an immigrant in constant fear of being deported. Kind of known as the tweet raider, Nick Donnie plays the newsroom's social media Guber real-life. However, he thinks he's better off not knowing what the White House might say. Deactivated my Twitter. I deleted my Twitter and it's my message to America's delete your Twitter. Just days to go before the premiere. You might expect nerves to be a little all the all line. Imagine because the expectations are so high, maybe impossibly you had to bring that. Three episodes aren't even written yet by design. So the show can be flexible enough to respond to news of the day. He invited me to his house afterward and I soon that there will be other people, but there weren't and something happened. That's did you tell anybody every show night? I start getting all weepy and faith comes in. She's now can-do. You can do this, you know what? It is much. It's a one you get weepy. This show was so important to so many of us when we were doing it and you really connect on a level that's deeper. Perhaps more polarized than was when Murphy was last on the air Candice Bergen. And the rest of the cast are counting on the fact that somewhere in the middle of the left and run a little root for human Murphy would cut down to size just like she did with Jeff Sessions. He used to be six feet. Now sneaks Nathan. I'm Jane Pauley. Thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday morning.

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