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SLU Billikens Update  Scott Highmark  December 4, 2020

Scoops with Danny Mac

14:18 min | 8 months ago

SLU Billikens Update Scott Highmark December 4, 2020

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Let the doctors at blue tail medical group show you. How schedule and appointment today. The number six three six seven seven eight twenty nine hundred six three six seven seven eight twenty nine hundred stem cell regenerative blue tail medical group blue tail medical group dotcom. Let's jump right into it with scott. Hi mark. I'll be on the call with scotty tomorrow as the billikens will be on fox sports midwest and they'll take on arkansas pine bluff. The bills are to and it was just last weekend. They had a big win over. Lsu at shea fits and let's bring in the hall of famer. Scotty high mark scott great to be with you. How are things going. Things are great. Dan good to be with you. It's a basketball seasons rocking and rolling. So it's a great time here. It is your impressions of watching these games without crowds like cameron. Indoor the other day to me wasn't cameron. It was weird. It was different games without fans. It's the first time it's really caught my attention without fans. How about for you. it's totally odd. Yeah watching that duke game the other the other night even my my wife notices like does that do those cutouts. And and so. Even you know watching some of the maui. Classic that was played in asheville. North carolina was weird. I mean there's been a lot of weird optics with college basketball you. I thought the nba and obviously the college basketball doesn't have the budget to do this. But i thought they did a really good job with television optically with those graphic the boards the video boards in it kind of looked good on television. It looked like there was some atmosphere. But when you get these empty arenas with seats in seats in rows and not leaders and no bands and neutral sites. It's it's definitely a different Experience watching on television. For sure. I was thinking of you the other night. You are a great shooter of preeminent shooter in the country. Now when you're practicing on your own you're shooting in an empty building does would that affect your shooting at all in a game and not having fans or is that a dumb question no no. It's a good question. I my my theory on that shooters want a dark background with that. Is that has good depth perception. So you never nobody ever shoots well in a dome because you have no depth perception right. So let's space behind the basket. So you want is is dark background in his close. Ah background as you can to the basket in my view. In so yeah. I think whether whether whether you have fans. I think having some sort of canvas to shoot against that you're is used to is helpful. I always thought hearns hearns. Arena was was hard place to shoot because they had yellow in. If it wasn't full always felt like that was hard. I'd rather shoot. He gets a black dark background. That's right up against the backwards. So i do think it could affect the players from shooting standpoint and certainly just from an atmosphere standpoint i was also thinking about defense like switch him and hearing a guy like switch. Or pick to your left to your right. Whatever screen left screenwriter i. I wonder if there are guys picking that up easier now than in years past because you can hear everything. There's no question about that and that's a great point. I mean you could. You could hear it on television. You guys talk. You hear the coaches barking. At the referee's i think the home court advantage which in college basketball is probably as important any other sport because momentum. You mentioned playing duke with that atmosphere. You take that away ill. Richmond beats kentucky at rep arena. That doesn't happen now. Richmond actually is a better team than kentucky right now and much more experienced but but you know instead of having twenty five thousand rena. There's nobody there it kind of feels like a glorified inter squad scrimmage. That's i think you're going to see more upset. Because of the lack of atmosphere of the lack of momentum that the home team is usually you know has the advantage in that area. I gotta wonder if slough and i was talking. And i know you were on this too and The zoom that we had as kind of the the tip off Zoom call that we had with Lisa stone and travis ford and chris may and and many billick fans were on this. I got to wonder on the men's side. Especially if slough and other programs that have depth. The senior leadership is at an advantage and this across the board as opposed to one in. Duns if they're at an advantage this year more than ever because of their experiences opposed to these great athletes that come in that just have not had the practice that normally would be available in a quote unquote normal season as a great point. And i've been thinking that same thing. And you re the richmond. Kentucky was a great example that you haven't experienced richmond team that have three and four year. Juniors and seniors kentucky. I mean that was a beatdown. That was even. I mean it was close for a while but that was not watched the game that was not like. Oh that's a big upset and they got magic in a bottle for a second. I was like they're the better team and you go back to the summer. These these freshmen. That were coming in. They didn't have a normal summer. they didn't get reps. they didn't get individual workouts. Some of them couldn't travel They certainly couldn't work out. They they didn't have a normal fall. So there's no question your you know the the lack of homecourt advantage because a lot of these mid major teams are going to have to play on the road any way against these power five schools and then you take away their home crowd and you take away the preparation for the five star one and done type schools. I think you're going to a lot. More upsets in college. Basketball a lot more parody in terms of slough. What is the lsu. Game is a really good win Sl is. it's a nice win. I mean that's one that you expect to win. But what is what stood out for you in the first couple of games in watching slough. Just you mentioned earlier. I just. I'm just really really impressed with the quality of their death. Not people say hey. We can play ten well. Yeah but you're seven eight nine ten or not nearly as good as your five but when you go to the bench with slough and you bring in a guy like demaria's jacobs and fred thatches. When he's healthy. Jimmy bell started game last year in. He may not play as much this year as he did last year. He's been a little bit under the weather. But you know they've got martin who's come in and take over that center position while hassan french's been out so just the quality of the depth and you can bring a damaris jacobs you can bring hargrove. Whose gotten a lot better. You can bring jimmy bell who of experience when you can go legitimate thatch. You bring a legitimate nine ten to the table. I just think that and you don't lose much and you bring get some energy off the bench. Think that's going to be really hard. But the way that travis ford teams always placed so hard they rebound. They defend their so physical. And when you can do that with forty or forty minutes with ten guys it is going to wear out teams. I don't think i've not seen a lot of teams in the little college basketball that season we've had so far that had the quality depth that that the billikens half scott. Hi mark the hall of famer is my guest linchpins. Kind of an interesting guy is an e. We're just finding out about him. The sound french is now off the Concussion protocol. He's in full contact rails. We expect him to play. Tomorrow against arkansas. Pine bluff again. You can see that game on fox sports midwest will have the call but he's with his third team and he's kind of just fit right in not a big deal for him to go with his third team third university. And it's just fit right in with travis ford yet. He looks like an experience guy. Who's been playing college basketball for a while. He only played thirty eight minutes a game so far again. French has not been playing but he's a reliable guide. You can throw the ball to the post in. He'll make good decisions and he has it. He is an interesting neck. He's not crazy athletic but he has a way to get to the free throw line. He's gotten to the line. Twelve times in two games shoots eighty percent from the line is a good passer out of the post. He's been a nice surprise in is just. He's a nice compliment to what you have with jimmy bell and john french when you got an experienced guy like l'instant really understands the game in can impact it. Yeah i'd say that's probably the one thing that's jumped off at me watching these first. Two games jordan. Goodwin scotty your guy that that could've gone pro and and done some more things with your career. So you understand what it means to be a pro jordan goodwin to take his game to another level this year. He's been a double double machine already. Two doubles Double double so what you have to do to take his game to another level. Yeah i think he said even when he went through that pre-draft process to get some feedback from nba teams. And and. i heard him say. They told him he needs to have more reliable. Jump shot from the perimeter and he needs to improve his ball handling I mean he's outstanding right. I mean he's a triple double for every day in college But the tighter he can become with his ball handling because he's probably going to be a combo one two if he gets if and when he gets to play at the next level whereas others in the nba overseas but if he could just be a reliable three point shooter or even sixteen to eighteen. I mean the whole game opens up because he he will drive us a junkyard dog. He will get offense rebounds you'll finish in transition. He's got everything else if he can just added a reliable even a mid range game and occasionally a three point shooter. I mean the sky's the limit. Everybody kinda compare them to marcus. Smart and i see a lot app but if you watch markets learning in the nba now. Marcus is in a very very reliable three point shooter so again. He's got some growth. But jordan goodman got things that you can't teach like motor and hands and i just instincts to hunt and find the basketball. So he's an outstanding outstanding colleague. Dodgeball player. i'm sure you would agree with this more than ever Conferences need the non conference. Wins in two thousand twenty because we don't know when games are going to get cancelled so you got to build up resume now more than ever. The ten holy smokes. They're piling up. Non conference wins. There been some huge ones here in that is just beneficial for everybody in the conference right now. Honestly it's been about perfect. So far for the ted what what needs to happen. What needed to happen for the eight cents particularly in this kind of pandemic with lottery scheduling is the needed to pick up some really not quality non conference. They needed the game to be played and be. They needed to win. Some so that. When you get into conferences in you're playing each other your arp. Rpi your net ranking doesn't go down in you know. We talked about richmond beating kentucky. Vcu beaten up this slew be lsu davidson. Had to quell like to two point. Losses the techs in providence and beat. Unlv last night rhode island. Beat seton hall. Some you've got four. Five quality wins That are really going to raise the league up. And so depending upon how the schedules workout the rest of the non conference way. You're gonna have a league. Rpi or league ranking. That's high enough. Dan that when they play each other. You don't drop and you have an opportunity to you. Know you beat or richmond. You beat a vcu you beat a davidson and you actually have an opportunity to increase so the honestly. I haven't talked to travis. Transfer directly about it but i. I can't imagine that this has worked out any better. Couldn't have scripted. it any better for the league. Now you've got to win your games. It take your business but at least you have an opportunity to get into the league. Play in in probably get three or four teams in the tournament. Yeah there's no doubt a wrap it up with this. What you expect to see Tomorrow night as we do that game on fox sports midwest excited to see hassan french back in the lineup and and just see how he adds a how he linson. Jimmy bell play together. Fund excited to see i would imagine trump's forward in his staff really trying to play faster. You're seeing a lot more full court pressure. So i would expect them to come out and try to really rattle time bluff early with their pressure defense and just see if they can continue you. Starting to see things you know you're going to get from perkins and goodwin and and for the most part french but just confront get back into the flow. Emerson have a big game can diminish jacobs be reliable like that six seven energy guy off the bench. Ios hargrove gonna take a step. I think the games like tomorrow or tomorrow night. What you'll see is is one of those. What are those next five guys going to do. What role they play. Great stuff scotty appreciate your time. Good luck over at mosaic You know you're you're you're making financial dreams for everybody here in saint louis so keep that going. Okay we're we're trying our best you got you got that scott. Hi mark and scotty is always with us. On scoops who danny mac and He'll be with us tomorrow on fox sports midwest.

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Jimmy Bell Interview - December 19th 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

12:50 min | 8 months ago

Jimmy Bell Interview - December 19th 2020

"He's so good and so talented that he is a perfect three for three and a grade one winner as the two year old and today he looks to get back on track and proved he is still the real deal in the tenacious stakes at the fairgrounds. And that would be welcome news to jimmy bell. Who is the president of godolphin's. Us operations he is with me now here on the equine form jimmy. Good morning my friend always great to catch up. good morning. You enjoyed here that race call. It feels like we're we're back in action. You're back in action in a big way today. You know i went through earlier in the show. And i just kind of recap that very quickly there but this has been such an up and down career for max 'field and i can imagine this has to be one of the more frustrating scenarios that you've ever been involved with well frustrating. Yes but on the other hand It there's a sense of confidence because not too often nor around horse. it obviously shows that talented maximums. Had you know yourself breaking your first time out going right from there into a great one race And obviously another time out coming back and off the off the bench and in the runner race like that met win. So i mean he's in three races shown so much that Even though it's been a long time between races know which you always hope for. I don't think one thing. We don't question his talent and For that reason we're really optimistic and excited the same back in action and and more importantly as you earlier alluded The patients that everybody has shown this especially brendan and bringing him back and Hopefully we're we're looking for you know very productive for your season with a full body of work did can maybe show The talents of this this time and time again. So very very you know. We're very excited to be back in here. We are ready ready ready to run in the afternoon. You know jimmy. I come at this from the outside looking in. But you are obviously intimately involved with every move. That takes place with max field and i talked about earlier in the program. I talked about that training. Job that brenda did getting him. Back to the races after being scrapped from the breeders cup in two thousand nineteen the breeders cup juvenile. Getting him back for the matt win but not just back to the races getting him back and ready to fire his best shot after all that time. Off and overcoming that that initial injury. How good of a training job was that by brennan. Well i think i think he I think you hit on the head. I think his his whole card is tremendous patience. I think he reads his horses very well. He's the consummate horseman himself. So you know he. He's been both on their backs. And on the ground. And i think he's got an extra sense of of Communicating with horses. That he himself know get on him and he's got that feeling nose and He he really lets the horse sort of talk to him and tell him win and wear and We're on the phone just the other day and he said you know we're going to have to run. He's figured it out he's ready We know they're still probably few cobwebs a little bit rust on wheel but that was the case. Obviously in the win as well and You know it just takes. Probably a very very counted individual to be able to Not only physically be ready to run but mentally be ready to run and that's something we probably don't talk about all the time. It's the mental aspect as well and One of the one of mexico's greatest at tributes is mental toughness and just how he is so professional and how he goes about his daily routine. And i think it makes a little easier for brennan to read him because he's very genuine. He tells you right where he is and You know you you you've got to be able to be picking up on all those signs and and brennan does a phenomenal job at that. Take me through the past seven months. Since that win in the matt win at churchill jimmy what of these past seven months been like from ashville. Well again you know the good news is that neither neither one of the neither one of the timeouts were really you know truly significant. We just we did the right thing by the horse gave him ample time to completely He'll come back get back into his own rhythm. And i think that You know this this game is built on hope and and you know that if you just get the opportunity to get him back you'll take care of the rest of certainly that's are feeling and listen. Today's no easy. It's never an easy spot coming back You know you're in there with with a tough for us from Steve esme you gotta hours respect that. Then there's always the hard knocking older horses ourselves. Got a tougher locally owned So this is a great spot to come back in. But it's not easy spot but there's also no easy spots when you're out of conditions so you can't just exactly dip your toe in the shallow when you gotta jump in and see where you're at and you know we. This is the beginning this. Is you know this is. This is just what it is. This is hopefully beginning of an important Year racing for him. You were kind enough. Jimmy by the way talking with jimmy bell the president of godolphin's. Us operations you were kind enough to join me on this show. The morning of the matt win on may twenty third and one thing that you spoke about was his pedigree and he is a son of street. Sense out of a bernardini maher now. I know that that's a pedigree this near and dear to darley godolphin's heart but that pedigree bernardini has come an outstanding broodmare sire. What he's accomplished at his age is you know really puts him at the top of the chart of a broodmare hours. You know a long time to come. And i mean it's just amazing. You speak casually reading steak entries or the pp's on horse a much as another daughter bernardini. That's another daughter bernardini and You know what. What he's accomplished is is really a phenomenal. And you know how great it is to have a horse. It's going to pass them on. We always talk about sour sons of sizes hours in the mail on but To be able to carry on and make no mistake. His impact is brute mercer. We'll be significant for really really generations to come in and foundation for a lot of operations. Have those young bernardini mayors jimmy. The news came out this past week by the way. Good luck with max 'field later today. I'll shift gears on us here. The news came out earlier this week. That you were elected once again as president of the thoroughbred after care alliance and that's an organization that i know from day one has been near and dear to your heart Talk about the importance of after karen. This sports i. I don't know sometimes. I think that might get overlooked a little bit when we start talking about all the racing so tell me about the importance of aftercare. Well you know it. That's exactly you hit it right on the head you know initially for i think we started in two thousand and twelve Initially it was about just awareness. Awareness awareness making people aware of the after racing. And what goes on or just stop that day and so initially that the just trying to make people aware and then we moved into educating people and now under you know understanding more after you become aware more the educational process and today you know some eight years into it. It's it's now talking about in terms of the obligation. You know this is. This is not this is this is part of owning a horse. This part of Having the blacksmith combat. I mean these these are all taking care of. The horse is an obligation as well so this whole thing has been awareness education obligation. And it's it's not an easy thing. You keep drilling on. But i think it's become a part of sort of a plank in the platform of our industry that i think the industry everyone involved in industry collectively understands and recognizes. How you know. This is a major component of owning a horse in in. What the industry's doing and have made tremendous you a tremendous move forward in that regard. I mean if you look at the day we now have i think. Eighty one accredited organizations over a hundred and seventy facilities We've we've generated over twenty million dollars and probably assisted. I think that eleven thousand thoroughbreds so yes. Very very significant and You know. I think that one of the great things about the third right after caroline's is is that It's it's sort of gotten the good housekeeping seal when you're raising that kind of money people really want to know where it's going what is doing. And i've jokingly said many times that i'm not sure how well we do when they come to inspect and accredit your operation to be able to become a credit by the ta. I mean there's a education component. There's go through facilities people literally go to these places and look at them. Talk to them about their adoption policies You know they have to be an operations three or four years before you can even apply to this thing so we've got the confidence of everybody knowing that this money is going where it needs to be which is always a question mark when you're when you're making these kind of contributions but you know the ta has come a tremendous long way but gee whiz we got you know this is. This is a big big problem in. It's something that we can't just sorta take lightly but it's you gotta you gotta keep gotta keep out for everybody's perspective. What are some of the things moving forward jimmy that you would like to see accomplished by the t. a. And on the after care front. In general well i think funding you know funding has to be and we've got we've got to continue to find. Waste be sustainable. I mean we get we get some great spikes and some great Ha moments were gosh. That was great. Somebody stepped up or somebody this but you know this is an industry obligation. Initially when we set this thing up. We tried to make as many small touch points as possible. You know at the sales at the racetrack here. There and yonder just a little bit but It it's difficult. It takes a lot of You know a lot of bookkeeping a lot of communication coordination. And you know one thing that i'm excited about is a look at the board of directors and the people that are involved from you know from officials in racing offense to sales companies to people in the jockey club to everybody's got some areas of expertise and skill sets that have made this you know very very Significant operation in the dance. Your question. you know we've just got we've got to find that magic way to get this thing sustainably-funded it's it's it's It's very hard going back. Every time and trying to reinvent the wheel we can. Just get some overall by into where people understand. It's one for all all for one That's rush sustainability. Comes from and it's all about know. Continue to to fund this. It's you can tell with one hundred seventy facilities and i think this year. We we handed awarded or granted over three million dollars. That's a lot to do every year in. You know it doesn't stop you've got every year so it's not like it's one time off and we got that done. Continue and now get to work alongside my man. Jeff bloom to absolutely and you know again. that's glad you brought that up. I mean john phillips with the past president everybody's had a real skill set that it's been at the helm of thing and brought a unique perspective of what they can do. Well you know. Get jack wolf. Initially you know did a fantastic job. It was not easy to get off the ground. And then i came in for a brief stint and followed up with john phillips back again as i said you you can step aside. You can step away and now jeff is gonna going to take over next year after after my my year and you know again. There's a guy that's very committed. He understands that he's been on the ground East compassionate about it and and he's got spheres of influence that others of us don't and You know again. Everybody brings a little something to the table and and very excited jeff onside and he's been a big supporter of all the way through. Well you can go to thoroughbred after care dot org if you wanna learn more about the thoroughbred after care alliance again. Jimmy bell with the president of godolphin's us operations and the thoroughbred after caroline's jimmy. You would be hard pressed to find somebody. That's better ambassador for our sport than you. My friend and i've known you long time in greatly. Appreciate all your efforts and everything you do for the sport and greatly appreciate you taking the time this morning. Happy holidays my friend same to you and what a great job you do kind of getting a good message out this other and listen. It's it's It's an honor to be a part of this and whatever little things we can do hopefully make a little difference but Just pleased and privileged to be a part of it. Yeah thanks for the time jimmy. Merry christmas fame you enjoy. thanks again. appreciate me anaheim.

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Part1:Andy Beyer, Jimmy Bell

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:10:19 hr | 5 months ago

Part1:Andy Beyer, Jimmy Bell

"Sirius xm raises with. Steve was becoming interviews. This asteroid who was stupid a very good monday race bans serious to nineteen exempt to a one sports night. Sixty four listening to siriusxm online and had our websites dot com. What a fun weekend weather could not dissuade us hope. It didn't dissuade you. Obviously oaklawn in particular. If they had gone any longer yesterday and saturday night. I have to send the jockeys out with with minors helmets. It was well the fog role. Did i know on saturday. And that made it. You know that made it possible fixed. Offer doing the best. He good but Even know watching after talamante boy girl had come back and successfully. It was a weekend of mixed results for returning champions. We'll talk about that But yeah it was. It was dark dank and damp and didn't stop anything though good good weekend of racing and there's a lot to absorb obviously we'll Will wade into it. It and that. I just answering cloud ray who's got fishing shug tomorrow. He's out fishing. Today he reeled in is third fountain of youth though on saturday with greatest honor and we will talk greatest honor and we will talk the intricacies as we often do after it controversial figure making from the buyer tube andy viral join us. I and i reached out the in fact even before i reached out to him the calls were coming on social media. Are you having the on monday. Yes yes yes absolutely. Now let me explain it. it's funny. How greatest honor is been a flashpoint. A discussion point on figures because the holy bowl was was questionable to start with. And you know there was a school of thought on most scales that the holy bull effort was faster than you know then. It came back from buyer and then came saturday where the two main track three year old races late on the card. The big upset which big upset but the there were there. Were a couple of clues. There were in fact clues and that that philly whole boaty meister there's an interesting story behind there including the new york bred stakes mayor. The tom bush trained whole lot of shaken. The those owners those owner breeders. They spent two hundred thousand on a whole lot of shaking. And they've bred her to really nice mayors are tonight stallions including There's an aggregate wean ling right now and there's a union rags two year old she either slipped or or was reset the year before But this voting meister philly for those of you that have already signed on and downloaded form to win she. She was second essentially behind on form to win on. Yeah i in fact. The trifecta was there to be add. The trifecta was second third and fourth on formed to win behind v. Quist pretty interesting so anyway but boaty meister and greatest honor. Their efforts at a glance seemed like the racist. Weren't gonna come back fast and right away you know the the raw number a preliminary figure for greatest. Honor was eighty-three and visually. Obviously it was super impressive. And you know this explosive. Turn of foot that he's got on the turns well that that's going to play well at. Let's face it at churchill Swimming everything goes well that that's derby move. Nobody watches that you know will miss judge what what kind of a punch. This horse is packing the question. Is you know he's going to have to get faster. And there's reason to believe that under a mile and an eighth a mile and a quarter that he will certainly shook feels that way and if you heard him after the race keisha courtney it shook said you just happy to get the mile and a sixteenth out of the way. So we'll talk to shrug tomorrow about greatest honor and you know his thoughts on the development One thing i i'm sure alison mcgahey was was was happy for for greatest honor to win because there was a point in the race where you thought he even if he rallies he's not going to. He's not going to catch. He's not going to catch a drain at this point. He he's you know gave them the slip and certainly a really nice effort. We talked we had such a fun conversation about draining. The clock with with nick casado. They're happy with that. Effort don't know of mile and an eighth is in his scope but certainly a placement off the swail in a race like the fountain of youth. The yeah we'll see we'll see what What their thoughts are about going forward and trying a mile and an eighth. You know certainly a racetrack that plays too. You know that kind of speed. And that's one of the reasons you thought well greatest honors in trouble here. And he's not he's not to get there and then in literally. I mean what three hundred yards comes loping. He's he's a big lumpy thing and and he ends up winning ease up. I mean did once he passed drain. The clock ortiz coasted home. So we'll talk to andy in about twelve minutes. We'll get andy buyer to explain the intricacies of figure making process and why greatest honor has become so problematic Speaking of the three year old results essential quality of course on the southwest front little difficult. That'll be a little difficult to digest the performances over the wet track both days but things were obviously pretty fourfold. I mean everybody. That was kinda countered on from a a expectations. Standpoint either met or exceeded. And certainly. I would say that. Certainly the to godolphin's springs exceeded Mr guide mike will join us in our to after mig. We'll talk to them and we're actually going to have a couple of godolphin conversations because it was a very. It's very close between the you know owner of the weekend between godolphin and eclipse eclipse had a magical day on saturday at gulfstream. They sent six horses out. They won four races. They were only eligible to win five because they had the entry mate. The entry mates going in the here comes the bride and when spanish love affair got taken down con lima got put up so eclipse was in position with the very questionable and somewhat bizarre decision to put spanish love affair behind I get it. I get it. I don't think anybody got it. I know some people said no. It wasn't obvious. I it it. To use the seth merrin centrum on inquiries that was like an eighty twenty out of one hundred times. Maybe even an eighty eight twelve and i. I thought that was just a preposterous decision. And i think. I i know i mean for gary barber and for marquess. It was stomach churning. So we'll talk to mark asi. We'll let golden cassie tell you exactly how annoyed years a it was. Part of a largely frustrating day to get back to the owner front. I suppose the three owners from saturday w- prominent owners that were eligible for for owner of the week. Did we we have owner of the week. We do this week. Was gaddafi and eclipse and gary barber. And gary had a very frustrating. I imagine not a not not the kind of saturday he was hoping for between the disqualification of spanish love affair and his olympic runner olympic runner got nailed by that tremendous right. What a what a ride that. Junior alvarado Put on holy cow. That was In that in the was that the canadian. Yeah the canadian. Then as well and hug for guardian junior alvarado made all the difference in nailed olympic runner and then of course The quests the return did not go well. doesn't seem to be anything amiss and Betrayed and team Will keep an eye honor but A distressing return for so is not a great afternoon at gulfstream For the pink. And black i did. I did say to gary barber. They say that got stormy one but it can't be her because she wasn't wearing the pink jacket so no it got stormy comes back and we'll talk to cassie about that performance in the canadian the fox and actually we can use the visit from cassie as an opportunity to check in on soup and sandwich to from the other day at tampa Gase had quite a bit going on. So we'll get mark in here Our three eleven o'clock look forward to a cassie visit but anyway back to the ownership Sequence amazing weekend for godolphin winning three graded stakes and mystic guide. Really announces himself as if he didn't already have you know qualifications. And you know some some bonafides bonafides was the was the watchword of the weekend although he's a suitor did not run great At the sam. Houston on saturday night. Mystic guide is clearly going to be a major force Going forward this year and a welcome confirmation in fact from him There was a couple like this saturday between missed it guides effort and that fearless. The question is with fearless. How you know how how sounded is he. I mean he's really had share of of career. As interruptus as it were so anyway. Visted guide essential quality antoinette. Godolphin with three great at stake winds jimmy bell invited. Jimmy ballet said come take a victory lap. So jimmy bell this hour after andy buyer. So here's the quick rundown and then we'll go back to. I mean there's so much that it's one of those really fun saturdays to digest. Eddie buyer Jimmy belt rich mcgladdery will get mixed perspective on the weekend racing mike instead of as mentioned the i suppose with both jimmy and mike stem visiting. Maybe we get a little bit more about the decision making process for him. The speculation one of the speculation points was may. Dan can understand given given ownership so world possibilities. See what What jimmy bell. And then i'll have off to text might settlement and i don't want him. I don't want him countermanding. Jimmy take a and whatever. The smoke signals are regarding mystic guide. But yeah this guy to central quality and antoinette and She wins the very one. The very what kind of blew it there I thought that i thought she. In tuned and california queen the first time north america. And then when. I wrote the race's up and i bet i left her off i was i was kicking myself. It was over for multi-race wagers anyway at that point because of what happened with the devoted dale winter. That whole body. Meister shocker fifty two to one but in addition to belen instead of cassie papa. Morales will be by. We'll do a recap of the form to win results and there were there. Were a bunch of boy as the using form to win as a compass. Some very nice numbers. Some really nice returns The race the race with sayaff as well at gulfstream at gulfstream tenth form to win all over it and at at turf way friday night. I will talk to james scully in our three speaking victory. Doors james with a terrific weekend. James put you on hush of a storm and gave out the try for the battaglia and you know very nice resulted was didn't haven't had a chance to reach out to ville maury yet but we will probably get bill morrie tomorrow because certainly wanna talk to him about kostrzewa. Storm was very good in here. Got a respectable fig high mid eighties eighty six and probably just you know points right ahead for the jeff ruby and this was one that performance on that the pita leading into this by storm the the race to back the maiden win then allowance when as well but that was the fastest race. Anybody in run in in this group and the worst goes off at seven to one so great job by almost seven to one. Great job by james and We'll get some thoughts from him in our three on all three preps the southwest result and on the fountain of youth as well. Since i mentioned turf way i'll Mentioned the the ray hernandez winners well of the cincinnati trophy. Fifteen two one on her this car. Dm philly bred by half in hartwell farm. Wait for nairobi. And she was put up. This was a philly that had not crossed the wire first but she was put up on a on a d. Q and renna of a big race there and in fact just looking at buyers. I think it was the second. Yeah tied for the second highest buyer coming into this and goes off at fifteen. Two one has done nothing but improve. Virtually with every start. It took her it granted. It took her six tries and yes she did get put up but she shouldn't have been fifteen two one in this race so we'll talk Actually we probably will bring up this the turf way results with cassie because Gretzky great came back and set the pace tired. Got tired copied length. Change ended up settling for third but was beaten at even money. So we'll get an update on on him as well. Not a terrible comeback. But as i mentioned part of part of what was a frustrating undoubtedly a frustrating weekend for For gary barber and some of his partners i mentioned eclipse to as part of the you know the weekend four winds for them and then i think they added another one yesterday though not mistaken andy buyers gonna join us here momentarily and we'll talk about the fact we'll talk right now because andy buyer standing by anti-god morning are good morning. Actually i'm sitting by but Steve i'm good i'm good First conversation of the new year. And really i think we probably could have reached out after the holy bull because it's really a similar discussion and greatest honor again the The lynch pin to this I don't want to call it a controversy but certainly the figure was Up for discussion. Let's say that well the we can We can t find to The discussion a little about whether The figure should be two or three points higher or whatever but this you know there's no discussion about whether this was like a really good figure that makes you a kentucky derby figure kentucky derby contender in in neither case What was it a fast race. Maybe maybe we should. We should start with with the. I have it here. The holy bull because that was a that that was up for discussion and essentially when the when it got an eighty nine pretty much every other every other team figure wise had the race faster. And i know you had it on the watchlist. You talk about you talk about the the original figure for the bowl and then you know what what went into saturday with well in both cases were very similar in in one respect the they were there. Were running a mile and a sixteenth and in each case it was the The the only mile sixteen threes on the card. I mean for some reason. Our gulfstream has Just not been running many to turn races at at all this season. I just looked up this morning and four months. There have been you know. Fourteen dirt races at a mile and a sixteenth. I so when you know we have you know on years decades of evidence you know we we stab. We have established the relationship of times at different distances and in the in the holy bull The you know the the the The you know the figure we normally would have made based on those calculations. I came up a bit low and Mark hopkins who was My partner who does the gulfstream figures. You know po possibly there was just you know some idiosyncrasy at the mile and a sixteenth and we would on this or on the side of of generosity and And and bumped the figure up a little bit. I was still So you know. I an eighty nine was You know as high as route reasonably could go. And i i frankly didn't understand you know when i saw some comments over. How could this be so low. The horse had run. Four times is figures. Were seventy two seventy seven seventy nine eighty three He'd just wanted maiden race by a length of a half. I mean the horse he'd he'd beaten was Was a turf worse. Who'd who's Who's who's best figure on grass had been a seventy five. I mean how. How was the supposed to be a great figure. I would say eighty nine You know you know hit Hit it right on the head. The on on saturday we had a similar situation You know the the day looked pretty straightforward and then using our our normal calculations the You know the the fountain of youth Came up slow again and now and now we're wondering if something has kind of fundamentally changed at gulfstream that our You know that are mile and a sixteenth adjustment You know needs to be changed and and sometimes zeal racetrax for reasons. We usually don't understand. Just you know just Just may change and and the relationships that have stood the test of time suddenly don't anymore so once again we You know we increase the figure You know from originally came up. Eighty three and i mean that was just obviously much too low and so an eighty nine again Seem to make sense but There's you know if there if we have We have an issue with the mile sixteenth. Times it's small it's a couple points And there there. There's no there's just no way that That either of these races You know could have earned a good figure. I thought greatest honor did a nice job in the You know drain the clock those speed horse on the rail you know got a clear lead. And and greatest honors you know kicked it in pretty well to run him down. So he's i mean it was his pedigree and running style you know he's clearly got the you know this the style for the derby but he he just wasn't fast and and at this stage of the season You know i couldn't annoy any horses. Running an eighty nine does his best race as a real derby contender and part of this. That for people to help you understand why why figure like this works is to go down the chart to drain the clock package to tarintino and and even that giraffe elise. Everybody making fun of this horse. And he's he's now picked up the the last check the last significant check in stakes twice Even his figure you know a forty nine breaking his maiden as two year old that he the holy bull is sixty two and fair to assume that he improved again. Seventy-three buyer you look at tarantino. He paired up eighty from the holy bolt of the fountain rafi to he had regressed in the holy bull off the big effort in the muccio macho man and he came back for his his career high and eighty three. I mean these figures all sense. And this is something i you. You've i appreciate your explaining to listeners. I mean you don't look you know when you're when you're looking at speed figures into just want to make sure that they make sense you look at the race in its entirety. Not just one horse and you know if you know if if if most of the horses in the race are you get a figure. That's much higher than they normally run or much lower than they normally run You know there. There may be something wrong but You know you want him to the numbers to fit together like the pieces of a puzzle drained the clock who you know forementioned pacesetter the new view. He'd run back to back. Eighty five at gulfstream. Now stretching out to a mile sixteenth you know he fades at the end you know he gets bigger of eighty six. So he's right and in the You know the in the ballpark re supposed to well and even even if you go down to an interesting horse coming into the race. I certainly didn't. Nobody would have questioned the wyckoff and mike maker Taking a shot on the dirt with fire at will but it fire it will even with a fifty six twenty lengths. Even that makes sense. Because you know you see us is sixty something On the dirt on and off the turf race at seven eighths at saratoga in an allowance so it from every from every vantage point this this makes makes good sense and know. We'll we'll obviously. You'll obviously keep tracking as the season continues at gulfstream. How do you you know how do you make a determination. At what point do you do. You would just the you know the beaten scale. Well we're going to know we're we're going to undertake a of all the amount of sixteenth raises and see if something has changed You know since Since last year. And you know. But i can't imagine that if even if we make a change it would be more than like two or three points It it's it's not going to You know it's not going to grow dramatically affect you know the the races we've been talking about from from a three year old standpoint to let's Since we're together let's also talk about dealing with the the wet track at oaklawn and these were these. Were too sloppy days. And i haven't even mentioned The girl returned she. She ran a typical monoploy girl race as she got a ninety six but on on those were big efforts mystic guide particularly mike stood him is going to join us Later this morning and We'll probably get brad cox tomorrow but Some thoughts about You know the the wet track and and how how trustworthy i mean. How do you look at those efforts on on on such a wet track to value seekers for the day made sense. I mean sometimes you know you know. Sometimes when you're with tracks will be We'll we'll just be nutsy and and and you know you're You're you're tearing your hair out you're trying to make sense of it but but the day was really pretty consistent from start to finish and You know the no no question about the number. I mean central quality as it did very well. I mean ran a figure of ninety six. I mean it wasn't a blockbuster but it's his first race back Unfamiliar surface. i mean. He certainly did well. I was disappointed in jackie's warrior who has a two year old run the best figure of the year. And i thought was you're going to be the lone speed In the In the southwest field. I mean he's he he was a disappointment. And i guess you gotta really question his you know his distance going ability but essential quality. This stage can't knock him no an oppressive way to come back in and then It nice to see nice to see. Ores like mystic guided. Start to knock on the door of the one ten level That's what that's what a handicap horses are supposed to run yup You know when we were you know. As the day was progressing i You know it's a loved one randy. Moss desert oakland figures. But i follow. So i was following along as well. This track released changed. 'cause mystic guide brands so fast but You know i guess. I mean with the benefit of hindsight. He got good at the end of three year. Old season You know and now you know it frequently will will make a big step forward reno when they turn for So the one way to certainly not out of the question and he no he beat horses who Who who went up running kind of their usual numbers so he he's going to be a i. Think a real Force against the older horses that we're gonna have to see what We'll find out actually just a few minutes after the break because is to join us from godolphin. Who was last year's the clips winning owner and is off to a another I wonder if they're going to go to the defy won't take him to the dubai world cup or if he's if he's been nominated because he would I make a future book better if there were available. Well we're going to say well we'll find out. We'll find out Literally in minutes from of jimmy bell and how close they are to a decision Also of course sitting on max field and speaking of which max b o committing to going out to the big cap so That that was an interesting development over the weekend. So yeah Well i will be watching mystic guide real interest. It's always nice to see horses. Kennedy surprise you and and and really get good Like this so. I mean i think he's he's gonna be a star this year. Well it's march first and feels like the march toward the. The serious racing really picked up a lot of steam this weekend. Andy as always appreciate the opportunity to flesh this kind of thing out. Good to talk to you. Steve always buyer everybody and buyer associates. Wanted to make sure he understood what went into that figure because the the raw number the preliminary came back You know very low but then You know with with adjustment and you know adding in the variant makes makes perfect sense and yeah. That was a question. Andy mentioned it certainly makes it easier for figure. Makers if there's more than one race on a card at the configuration at the distance i mean another mile and a sixteenth race might have been nice would have helped. I mean there was mostly one turn everything else. Was you know one. Turn dirt racing including the allowances and the the other stake maiden race and you know the maiden phillies that started the day. that nice george. Weaver had a nice winter to start the day that passed the champagne. This randy hill and black type and rock ridge racing and black ridge racing a flatter philly and with johnny one at four to five and came back with a with a ninety with an eighty five buyer There was the maiden winner of saffy. Joseph's that's headed to the florida derby That was also pretty impressive. And that one was collaborate. This is another into mischief. Yet and collaborate was the fifth yet fifth race and breaks the maiden off by. Doesn't if you didn't see it out of the nice quiet temper Which i'm not mistaken. Was dale almost positive. That was dale. Romans and so collaborate second start for three chimneys and bob edwards the rest. Yeah there was the attachment rate and allowance win that that was another hit for a terrific by By scully that was another of scully's hits for the weekend. Yeah everything else. There was the gulfstream mile that was fearless in the so there was nothing else to compare. You know the mile is sixteen racist to makes it a little the not not. That racing offices need to schedule their their cards based on the needs of figure makers but it it helps. Let's do this. Let's take the break and come back and visit with jimmy bell. Talk about all the success. Godolphin had on saturday. Three graded stakes wins. They've already got four on the year in the first sixty days max field as well we talk about mexico going to the big cap. We'll see we'll see if jimmy got any decisions yet about listening guide whether he's going to go to me dan back after this at the races just getting going. Stay with us. A three races. With steve vic on sirius. Xm radio why in the past decade has declined become the premier equine supplement company in the industry because we spend millions in research and development before we ever put out a product because we only fda supervise facilities to manufacture for us because what we say is in them is in them because they work. 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I mean we have to look back off the far to have anything to come remotely close to that one. That was It's hard to hit the bullseye once much less three times well. And you know there's certain there's really certain elements to the day that were i'd say you know had added significance. You know you bring back the two year old champion and that adds to the the butterfly factor. We have plenty of butterflies. they didn't they. Were going the whole weekend and truly anticipation as well. Well documented how that race got moved three times. So that that'll that'll get the store in a lot of emotions just early on Just grateful and thankful that we got to run You know certainly wasn't over a racetrack. Anybody looking forward to the same time they all got around there safe and came back in good order and would move forward so You know getting. I've got to be careful what i say. I remember kind of telling everybody. In each one of those three cases with antoinette and mr guided essential qualities that. I'm sure there's plenty of rest on them and you know it's good just to get going but To same comeback and really perform the way all three did was The really hard to imagine and one of the one of the sidebars to the way things unfolded with the three wins three different outfits That you guys use which which i think is kind of fun. Yeah that that really is. That's that's something that I think internally we're we're very excited about We're very very very pleased with you. Know with brad and was with with brennan walls even with with max of course doing nothing needs to be said there and mike stadium suspend a phenomenal addition to the team in each. And every one of these people Trainers have made a tremendous contribution in more ways than one. And we're just so so excited and it's also nice to see it spread around and to be able. That was one of our objectives was to try to have a little different geographic reach with with the overall racing program and hence the addition to those guys and boy. They all been great additions to the team. The let's talk essential quality and you brought in a couple of the factors that Have you have to come to bear on this Wins the breeders cup and Ends the two year old season undefeated. Then you've got this moving target and this obviously wasn't a spot that you know. He absolutely has to win. It's nice to be undefeated but that's You know that's not Anybody's priority talk just about the mentality. And and the interplay from from the organization jimmy and and the trainers essential quality. You know as the as the focal point because clearly a derby win has been a goal of godolphin you know since the started racing in the united states. There's no no question in sore star with that point One of the great things about being a part of this organization and and being led by design to shape. Mohamed is that you know. Say that so often he's so philosophical and and while certainly he would love to win the kentucky derby You know he's he's so philosophical about if it's emeals meant to be it will be we're not he doesn't really have to force it to make it happen and He let's let's it sort of unfold organically naturally. In that i think that sort of matriculation entire operation on a pressure factor that. It's you know it's great. It works and if all we're doing is is you know. Continue to try and and hope these are the type of racist. We can continue point two so really That's a great great feeling in a great testament to the operation. That really that pressure does not come from the top down whatsoever so I think that that permeates throughout the whole organization and everybody's doing their best and heat and being horsemen that he is recognized that so that's that's good getting back to central quality. I don't know about anybody. I certainly had trepidation about Coming off the layoff you know shipping up there and not having really trained over that racetrack and then seeing the race. Track that you're going to run over. And i think you know tell myself that hopefully will certainly learn one thing today at best if he can handle the slop so try not to make the beginning of the end all this is. This is the beginning journey. Not the end of the journey and You know. I think when you have very talented horses. Very towns horses. They have a tendency of overcoming things. That would you know your average wars or certain a lesser degree finds to be troubling and eat certainly doesn't need to take his right. He doesn't need to have his race track of the race track anywhere. So that's Another testament to his overall build is that. I think he handles pretty much any situation. That's been thrown natty and one thing to You know a horse that wins on introduction going three quarters that was at churchill. So you got the you know the fast track And at churchill as as a as a back pocket kind of thing and then immediately stretch it out successfully in the breeders and and then of course the juvenile so starts the three year old season really with a stylish effort and took even a modest step forward from a figure standpoint. He's by tap it out of an elusive quality mayor. And it just seems like you know he's got style and and And substance so the next the next Plan i suppose is the you know the avenue towards derby and with the rebel coming up so quick now. Of course arkansas. Derby is they stay there or or do you think about even something like the bluegrass and going back to keelan. Well i think all you know as as we've all observed have learned Flexibility is the key to any of these things as a mother. nature seems to get the final call and most of these situations I think it was brad plan from day. One that he said early on. I want have to preps before the derby and He most definitely wanted to come back in the mouth. Sixteenth nylon eight. So i think that's where the southwest really came to the forefront and You know from there. Obviously the next racist will most likely be a mile in. That's fine You know one thing you alerted to alluded to earlier was was that is right. Going three quarters. It's it really shows the versatility. And i think that gives everybody a certainly a great degree of comfort and confidence that he's you know shown speed going spring distances and obviously the longer the better he seems to perform so I would say the bluegrass would certainly be in in the works of things but you know having had some success there and You know he's good news is he's had races it keenum the churchill so We've certainly taken that first. Big step and I'm glad to see there was very little if any rust on them and is a joke. League sander didn't seem to be allowed to rust but certain plenty of mud but we. We had a great day and it's just a testament to how he is probably well. And then i suppose when it comes to the decision making process for brad and and and you three weeks between arkansas and kentucky or four weeks between bluegrass and derby so it it you know it's a matter of you wanna come back you know out of out of the you know the penultimate start toward derby the three weeks or do you want four weeks. That's that'll be the. I'm sure a big part. He's already a dual great one winter. So you know the great to status of the bluegrass Versus the great one of the arkansas. A little less of a factor. I think you know pretty pretty clear where where he probably will stand after after his career. So you're not worried about the you know knocking off. Great ones as much you know. Is that part of the decision making process at all for you. Absolutely steve. it's all about. How best can you get him to at first outing. May you know you're not duck in the idea of that's not the objective because it certainly is and I think in fairness to brad. He has been speaking to him to out. He said this horse just always seems to be a little ahead of him as far as where he thought he would be or could be or should be fitness wise and he's just one of those types of things to keep himself in pretty good shape no matter if it's downtime or trying to get ready for these big races so The timing the the time between the races is is probably paramount and I i believe that is as you rightly pointed out. This is Think he's he can rest on his laurels of what he's accomplished as far as grade one status so i think that the the pure pure objective is how can we get to that personality make essential quality who surprisingly i just noticing this on on a earnings leaderboard thunder snow all time leader in terms of the way equa base keeps track of of earnings which includes dubai and and north america. But he was a you know he's a world traveler reserved. Fourteen million essential qualities are at one point. Seven eight five million and for a horse. That's only run in north america. he's godolphin's essentially you know the leading earner that Godolphin has had the north america. When you knock off a couple of great ones in the breeders cup your for time in the short short order so there's no question about that and You know it's not often that you have one that's already into three year old year and has yet to taste defeat. So he's he's He's in some rare company for dolphin. Worldwide and certainly in america. Well let's talk about mystic guide. And we'll fold max field into the conversation to jimmy because he was in the news over the weekend with The decision to go out west and they're very very cool. Actually that max deal though contest The the big gap Talk about mystic guide And i'll let stood among them in a little bit but Really feels like this fairly lightly raced for your old There's a lot Ed for him off of this four year old. Well you know. A lot of credit goes to mike and hillary and then. I'm sure you'll get into that. A little later. The patients and horsemanship that they've shown with him throughout his just now being you know. They're reaping the benefits of that You know he. He didn't really make his first start until february of last year. And you know showed a lot of promise but he was just sort of gawky kid. A little bit of just wasn't a finished product and and we sort of Certainly took a more conservative route. You get tempted a little bit as you. Well know when they move the derby around now. Maybe we can make some lost time. Little later that year but Certainly to mike. Scranton hillary A different path and kind of needed to have that breakthrough. Racy had that jim dandy. Was you know and then came back in the jockey club and a all but a winning race just just beaten there and you know. He had run since october of last year. So that's that's a long time almost four months and You know mike was just saying for this razorback race. How he couldn't be any better any have greater feel for him then. Having a big performance been wildly. He he really really know. Took it and had a heck of a run there. It took the overland route overland route. And doing it so He was he truly was much the best in that race in and showed that the patients in the maturity and now i think we're probably ready to really take on as you know the top in handicapped competition and he sees rightfully at that point now and the i'll go over some of the development stuff with with michael but Immediately the you know the question was asked About you know. The potential to to go to may dan versus planning you know continuation of of the domestic campaign It's only it's only been forty eight hours but what inside can you provide their i. Would i would say all options are on the table You know. I think that Regardless if he were to stay here and work out a pretty good campaign and gets a little more interesting later in the year With with those racists these early early months or not so much the focus As we we're you know. Taking maximum out to california. For the grade one santa anita handicap But you know we'll we'll kind of play the dubai or versus staying here with this kind of further future discussion truthfully. I think this was so important to see where we're at a as you. Well know making that transition from three and four as is sometimes as much as it is from two three so a little bit was. Let's see where we're at. Let's see what we have. And certainly i think the horse answered any questions. As far as what kind of competition he can perhaps entertain and the distance thinks. We can do it so i. I think he's horses. It's concern for the mouth eight around quarterback very very effective and they kind of leaves all those races in conversation. You know one thing that a i'll mention just looking at him and you know with this step forward and running this kind of a race his damn For those that you know that are somewhat you know recent The game but you go back. You know you go back. Ten twelve years music note Was about as as versatile and as terrific of a philly as you know you. You had matt era and you know what. What's notable about her. Is that you know she was able to win a race. Like the ballerina at seven eighths well as things like the coaching club and And the mother goose and the belle dame and so forth. I mean she she had a sprint speed when she needed it and she could stretch out and you know then you fold in whatever go. Sapper brings to this party and very exciting and and he reminds me of as much of a music note as he does go. Sapper i would've. I would've hundred percent agree with that. And what might add as well. Maybe i should have thought about it more before the race on on saturday is that she won a couple of grade ones in the slop in the mud as well so she was true what she was one of those that can handle all courses all distances as you said and questing was ended up being a champion three-year-old silly and rightfully so you know she wanted to the three zero races. That sort of made may have somewhat of an easier decision. But i would contest perhaps Music notes probably in my mind. Probably the best. Filly mayor that we we've run over here she was as hickory and his genuine is any really any more so that we've we've had a godolphin over here so i would. I would put her nearly at the if not the very top of of our female performers and It's so gratifying to kind of see that. Come through one of our spring. It's not not easy as you will know They don't often replicate themselves but I think mr guide is certainly doing doing great honor to to his mom did did site been so we're trained her throughout. Yes sir yes. He did I couldn't remember if if he had if he had a right. You know right from the get go but this is this is a pretty nice Pretty nice way to start the the four year old season. We'll talk more about mystic guide with mike stadium in our to that brings us around Jimmy bell with us from godolphin and jimmy antoinette talk about seasonal seasonal comebacker. That was Just about perfect. Well it truly. And you know the credit to billy ma you know which need little Being all famer he was at the he. He's been doing this quite awhile in to bring you know all three of these cases and in fairness to you know mike into brad and all these winds were coming up. Pretty good you know three or four months layoffs and Just you know people might not realize how how difficult that is of getting back to that race in shape without squeezing too much in trying to anticipate long racing season and but yet to have them be able to perform on the day. First time off the bench and going a mile and three sixteenths as as well so She's been she's been an interesting philly force and really has shown a lot of not a dimension as well as you know you've seen her she run on the turf war on the dirt. Run some grade. One racism on both surfaces Ben she you know. She looks like she's ready for a good campaign this year so very very excited to hear so fresh and so Sharp Coming off a bit of a bit of a long winter. This this performance notable to be you know that she has one mostly Mostly on the lead that that's where she's been at her best and you know here a not only not only does she take control under jose ortiz. But she was you know she was powering away and left Left doubt This was this was a great way to start the four year old campaign. She ended the season. You know kind of kind of meekly in that valley view but otherwise It was it was a really a complete the pretty complete season as a three year old and notably with her. The you get a sense jimmy. The what her best distance might ultimately be how far or how short. She's going to be at best. Well i tell you. I think what's You touched on it. Briefly is that what was what was impressive about not only winning. It's it's always impressive but The matter what she went about it was impressive from the standpoint in a couple of are racist earlier. I remember john alaska's telling billy that she she wanted to add a little bit. Wait on some horses a time or two when you get on the leader. You're usually target on your back and and You know she kind of was waiting on horses and in in this race the saturday. It looks like she actually went ahead. Drew off which you noted and hopefully that's the maturity and more and more professionalism and going on in kinda finishing the deal In establish yourself though the her her cocard's cards. It seems as that she does have some good speed and she can carry a very long distance and so usually that combination doesn't always go together for for horses that run over a real distance of ground but You know she's been able like you said she's been able to when she's able to dictate the pace and dictate the front end a little bit. She's very dangerous and You know a lot of horses that that wasn't a real distance of ground mile and a corner mounted three sixteenths They don't usually have that early foot. They usually wanted to kind of come with the russian finish. Well but she's got a running style that's can be troublesome for others in those racist one. Ask to About the the three year old Sister because that nica that ran against the boys in the el camino is the is the baby sister the three year old. Yeah yeah that's a little bit of the same same thing i mean. She's she's That was a very tenacious. Determined efforts she did up in the commuter rail derby up there and as shown some flashes earlier in a career as well as being quite town. So that's those are two pretty hickory. Phillies right there. What what's next for her Would hardy Actually worked just noticing. She worked half a mile on saturday. She looking at The santa anita oaks there. There is a There is the oaks. And i think there's a turf race as well and i think it'd be game time decision but he certainly looking to run on the day and you know at some point would really feels like he trained quite well obviously works well over the derp in seasonal reason why she wouldn't perform so Yeah that's that's That's kind of short-term project right there and know it may well be. She does run oaks or may be there. She goes back to the grass on all lesser turf. Course race there well How the nika. The three year. Old sister of antoinette and is actually a two year old coming up behind have nica a full sister by medallion doro. And now there's also a young yearling bio-chemo a colt and she hasn't delivered yet. It's early of course What what she caring. Jimmy do you know now. If i were i'd be guessing probably take a look. I'm trying to focus more on the ones that are over there in the afternoons. Well i think it might be time to go back to hard spun with her. And get a yeah. That's been pretty good. Yeah why not the way you guys you guys got a decent roster to work from which out that is very true. Very very active officer and the good news is is I think last year In being leading owner stuff that the one of the most gratifying parts of that is i think of seventeen or nineteen stakes performers every one of them were home brits which was really gratifying for the entire operation both externally and internally says i'm looking at Looking at produce record music note doesn't show anything She she can no. She cheese I i don't. I don't think we have anything yet. You're right well and there wasn't anything listed for for For twenty twenty. That's why there's a there's a two year old by maclean's music who's been named gina To watch for this year later in the year. And and i i just thought yeah. I just thought i thought i'd ask and and see what What the status as well you know. In addition jimmy to the the winds you had A couple of Placements yesterday in the the maiden races there was some nice maiden races to follow up the big saturday. So you got You got some three year olds yet. That are are knocking on the door. What's left kicking around the operation. Either unraced three year olds or anything to be watching for. Well you know. I think that Working proxy a work in progress with a horse called proxy which Oh yeah mike's has is run very well. Fairgrounds is had had You know had a good race in the competent was the second plant timeout It looks like he's gonna run louisiana derby he's tap it out of amir panty raid and i think he's He is a progressive. Really kind of a little bit below the radar rapidly improving three year old. And i'm sure you well know the nice race that Prevalence another three year old in his paid went down at gulfstream. Pedalo hiccup got a little. I got a little fever. Missing missing work so we kind of have to redirected a little bit for his next start will be But he's he's both those two. I think are probably very exciting. Free coming along as well. Anybody though that You know that you guys are kind of waiting on Say we we're. We're what you're seeing is. What we're we're getting right now. I think that's a pretty strong group of three year olds a really strong. No no doubt no doubt And we talked to. We talked to Brendon walsh about prevalence last week or the week. Maybe the week be been the week before. Well there's there's no shortage of of other stake performers of varying degrees And the also got a maiden winner gershwin That Is is a sibling as well. The music note Three year old. That just broke the maiden that yeah but curling yeah he he's Y- very very excited. I think a little little more maturity and trying to figure out Hopefully he wants to go further with. Mike's done some interesting things with him. Sort of shorten him up a little bit and look into back out but You know he's he's he's always gotta world potential. It's just see if he can fulfill love it. Well there's no. There's certainly no shortage of excitement. I imagined throughout the team. And you know that goes from the from the breeding operation and the development side Through to you know so many of these operations I'll bring up some horses later with the with mike stadium to picks late Who's been kind of a personal favorite as well. So lots of good things that had off of a magical saturday three graded stakes winds and Plenty in reserve including next week. Max field and the big cap Jimmy bowel really. Appreciate the opportunity to congratulate you and muhammad steam on the eclipse last year as well as all the early success in twenty twenty one while you're very very account and then certainly it's just nice to be part of an operation of what godolphin is so we're all we're all happy to be on board and Excited to see what might be around the next corner jimmy bell everybody godolphin and of course You know one of them and jimmy himself. The part of one of the great families involved in the in the game in in so many different areas. Well we'll turn bring rich. Mig laurean and look ahead to mike steadham in.

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Equine Forum - January 30th 2021

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Equine Forum - January 30th 2021

"Welcome to the equine forum presented by health metrics. Cbd lady pets getty oppressed lady. Apple gets up naked lady apple to get the win last year. Ladies classic was probably lady apples. Best run of her career and obviously we're trying to recreate that against sunday Extremely happy with how send training and how she looked Going into sunday's race greatest power path inconvenienced around the first. Turn a win anyway. Greatest honor impressive winner. He wins a length and a half. You know they came back here and they will horses awfully getting knocked grandson going into the first turn and i thought he really finished up well and i do think it's a little bit of a process with him and but you know he's all run that far as national to turn round horse and you know whether mile sixteen it to get a little help and front but You'll you'll see see from there. It is both fall side in the final furlong leaks by three inc. Moten has one. What a wonderful opportunity. Spendthrift given us with this philly. He's absolutely beautiful. Black trains extremely well. She is training exceptionally well and she does have races to go back on. That could put her in the winner's circle on sunday as well cries that klingon as spielberg pros down by gauntlet. Spielberg comes up that great. One photo heads bobbing beneath the great spielberg. Now here's mike pence. Whatever the open to your show include soundbites from hall of famers. Steve asks listen and should mcgahey. You know something big is going on in the sport of thoroughbred racing. Certainly is this weekend. Good morning once again. Everyone and welcome to the first ever three hour edition of the equine forum. Here on the horse racing radio network mike pence berna the backstretch ushering in an exciting it. New era with our flagship program better known as the show that launched a network the show that started it all and this morning and every saturday morning from here on out i will take you right up until eleven. am eastern. And i have to tell you. I couldn't sleep last night. I tossed i turned i. I just i couldn't get comfortable in. It had nothing to do with the sleeping conditions. The pillow the bed. Anything like that. I think it had something to do with the theme song from gilligan's island. I know dating myself a little bit there. That three hour tour swimming in my head couldn't get it out of my head didn't work out all that great for the crew from gilligan's island hoping things work out a little bit better over the next three hours here this morning and because of this additional hour by the way you will be able to experience the sport of thoroughbred racing like never before so many of you have already sent me messages telling me how much you've enjoyed. The addition of our newest segment unsung heroes presented by clayborn which debuted a few weeks ago. That is just the beginning of a multitude of new ways. I will take you inside our sport in the weeks the months and years to come consider this new three hour equine forum your backstage pass to go behind the scenes. That's the way. I want you to look at it because i am going to take you inside. The sport like nobody has ever done before. And today i will bring you to brand new never before heard weekly segments which quite frankly. I would've never had time to do. And include them in a two hour. Show i'm also now going to give you the chance to be part of the show. Each week with a brand new collins segment which today by the way comes your way in the newly added third hour at ten twenty eastern so mark that down. If you want to be part of the show you want to call in and talk racing weigh in on some of the big prep races for the kentucky. Derby some of the ones that we've already seen you wanna talk about any industry issues. Ten twenty eastern is when i will open up the phone lines for a fifteen minute segment. It will take as many calls as we can and let you be part of the show. It truly is a new era on the horse racing radio network and it begins right now to help celebrate this historic show. I'm also going to be joined by stellar guest lineup. That will not change. You have become accustomed to hearing from the big names in racing every week on the equine form. Continue that we'll just enhance the show a little bit with some new segments and take things to a new level. I'm gonna kick things off right after our first break in just about five or six minutes with jimmy bell the president of godolphin us the newly crowned leading owners in twenty twenty. That happened thursday night at the eclipse awards and it was a huge night for godolphin. It wasn't only about being leading owners that leading owner title included essential quality who was crowned champion two year old male after an undefeated juvenile campaign of course racing in the royal blue colors of godolphin really special night for them. Jimmy bell gonna join me in a few minutes. Jackie corollary is going to be with me at eight thirty five eastern to look back and and talk about. I should say look ahead. Talk about his mounts in today's graded stakes at gulfstream. Including the del. Romans trained sitting on go in the grade. Three holy bull. The big day for corey. He has mounts in four of the five grade. Threes at gulfstream today. Sam houston announcer. Chris griffin previews tomorrow's houston racing festival which includes the grade three houston ladies classic. Where steve asmussen trained lady apple is going to look to defend her title. You heard steve talking about her in the open to the program and that card also includes the great three john connally turf cup and chris will join me. Nine o'clock eastern this morning trainer. Mike mccarthy will be with me at nine forty from california. He'll talk about the return of his talented three-year-old bauer. Who makes his three year. Old debut later today in the grade. Three robert b lewis at santa anita and the trainer. They may all have to be in that race. Doug o'neill will be with me toward the end of the show in our three at ten forty. Doug has two horses entered in the robert. B lewis. Hot rod charlie and wipe the slate. And i know much like every big race in california. It comes down to bob baffert. He's in there too. He's won the race. Something ridiculous like eight times now. Doug's wanted a couple of times too. And his chances with hot rod charlie and wipe the slater pretty good. That's a good field and that leads me to today's poll question. You can go to h. r. on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook which of today's three-year-old stakes races. Most likely to produce the kentucky derby winner and that's assuming the derby winners in one of those which of today's year stakes races most likely to produce the kentucky derby winner. You can choose the swail. The holy bull the kitten's joy. I know it's on turf but a three year old steak or the robert. B lewis the swail the holy bowl kitten's joy or the robert. B lewis which of today's three-year-old stakes races is most likely to produce the kentucky derby winner and a quick follow up. By the way on my interview. I talked about dale romans. Sending out sitting on go in today's holy bull a quick follow up to my with dale talking about historical horse racing. On last week's show. Senator john schickel whose district includes turf way park by the way is introducing a bill on tuesday to protect historical horse racing and keep the kentucky equine education project now has a petition on its horses. Work dot com website. Where people who live outside of kentucky but also contribute to the kentucky horse industry in any number ways can sign a petition that will be part of testimony at next week's hearing and they're hoping to get thousands of signatures so if you live out of state but you participate in racing here and benefit for being part of the sport in the commonwealth of kentucky. Go to horses. Work dot com and help them by signing that petition. It's easy to do. Horses work dot com and Much much appreciated for all of that support. And i know the kentucky industry appreciates it as well. We'll get a really busy show three hours this morning. All the way up until eleven am eastern kicks off jimi bell from godolphin. 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Charlie boobs up to challenge jackie's field moves off the turn. Central quality is still third can still moving at the leader from the outside final for long of the juvenile says joke quality coming forward for the lead late run from me and bite hot rod to the inside sexual quality and louis site. Yes has won the tv g breeders cup juvenile one minute forty two point. Oh nine seconds. Welcome back to declined. Forum presented health metrics cbd on this saturday morning. Mike paneth of the backstretch expanding the show on the saturday morning. This is an historic show. The first ever three hour equine form. This would be the format going forward now adding that extra hour with you. All the way up until eleven. am eastern. that was kurt. Becker with the call of this year's breeder's cup juvenile at qinglin. And what a moment. It was for jimmy bell for the godolphin team for darley. Usa for fans of essential quality. It was a special day. This past thursday. Good dolphin was honored with a third eclipse award. Leading owner of twenty twenty and your did include the fact that they campaign the undefeated juvenile champion essential quality. He was named two year old champion and as an added bonus v quest. A daughter of darlie. America stallion nyquist was named champion. Two year. old. Filly joined now by jimmy bell. The the president of godolphin. Us jimmy congratulations. My friend. what year. We'll thank you very much. Well just thinking if you're gonna add that extra hour on your show. Let's let's replay that stretch calling Yeah we'll make it the essential qualities you know. He's gonna come back. What february fifteenth in the southwest is that when he's looking to make his three year old debut it is. You know. I think brad you're sort of was primarily wanting to make sure that The distance wasn't too much the first time obviously down been doubt the fairgrounds and In the mount sixteenth seem to be a little more What he felt was the right proper first step with for the for the new year. Let me ask you this question jimmy. Since you brought up the fact that i should just play that race call for the entire third hour of the program. Is it okay with you. If on this day i mix in a holy bull stretch collartoo while you know it's funny I dunno where there's some throwback wednesday or something or other and I got to see about three or four those races. I'll tell you absolutely still gives me goosebumps. You know the travers and a few of those great racing team and it's just a really really was still pretty high in rate times in the game with with being around on holy bull. I know he's a favorite years as well. But i think he was people's favors to he was so fun. So what what. A great great great resource. Yeah i mentioned the top of the show that as part of this new three hour format. It's going to allow me to incorporate several new segments on a weekly basis in one of those debuts around nine twenty eastern this morning it is kurt bekker's stroll through racing history and today his subject of the piece is holy bull and he looks back on his career and it. It's he did a fantastic job with it. So i'm really excited to bring that to our listeners. At nine twenty. Of course the holy bull stakes at gulfstream. Today's a day to celebrate the bull. And you're right some of those performances you know. Look i mean. Other horses like cigar for example who came along and had the big winning streak. they'll be recognized as as one of the greatest horses that generation but holy bull In my opinion doesn't take a back seat to many. You're right about that but anyway. That's that's You you've got another listener for the non twenty sigmund all right perfect well. Let's talk about what happened. On thursday night that honor being bestowed upon godolphin for the third time the eclipse award for leading owner and twenty twenty. It was a year in which godolphin enjoyed three grade. One victory several other greatest stakes performers Jimmy when you think back on last year what are some of the things that immediately. Come to mind well. It was You know listen. It's the game is filled with a lot of ups and downs and and To be able to see maximal come back was was really special in the back again. Now you know that voted welfare four year old season Ole miss the guy jumped up. One been had a lot of hope for him and got his dane us on the jim dandy ran a great race in the jockey club Of course obviously essential central quality was had everybody kitchen When i look back on i i feel like made race might have been as exciting as impressive as anything. I know it got a little. The g. ones came along but It was a phenomenal effort to show what you know. Just what talent colty was a member. Brad you're saying gee whiz it was like september fifth when he started and he said you know we gotta get this cult gone. He's just so full of himself. And a baby huey but you know. He's going to be really really difficult to beat when he go to turn. So we've gotta get going and he got all kinds of trouble that day and just said no they very very fast you know and ended up. I think on three quarters and nine and change and here he is winning the sprint race. When when brad is really just trying to get him going and hoping to look to turn right so you know that was. That was a That i kind of got everybody excited and You know it was nice to see Fair maiden jump up win the la brea. she'd been a little unlucky in two or three races. Nobody wants to hear about the could as and showed us and got shut off here. Had this bad racing log but you know it was fun to see. see her. Get her dana son. In knowing hardy to that was so nice that we've we've got a great ripple performers with some great trainers and You know we're able have had some success gear there in yonder. You know brad cox was on the show with me a few weeks back in. He told me he has three items on his racing. Bucket lists that he wanted to accomplish. Number one was to win the kentucky derby number two to win an eclipse award for leading trainer which he has now done by virtue of that title coming his way on thursday and then the third one is to eventually find himself in the hall of fame. He's on that path now. And how great was it to see him. Honored with the eclipse award. After that year that he had well phenomenal. I mean you you just you just take a snapshot one day. Just go to the breeders cup and it was just these. It's so hard You know we all tend to forget but you know to to It it's a tribute to his management schools and his team that he's got around him and he was i point that out but You know one thing. I'll say we we've not been Brad's been sort of a recent edition. And and i would say this guy's got phenomenal Focus almost photographic memory attention to detail. very upbeat very positive. And obviously it's know. He lives eats and breezy sources. And it's It was on full display veers. How great jimmy would it be if he were to check off that second box and win the kentucky derby with a horse races in those godolphin colors well. I think it'd be a few others excited. Check that box to dream shared by many. It certainly is talking with jimmy bell. The president of dolphins us operations the leading owners of twenty third time that they have received that honor. Jimmy one thing you mentioned when you accepted the award. Virtually of course with the virtual program you said godolphin's racing program both benefits and supports are breeding program and you went on to say that all nineteen of your stakes performers. That raced in twenty twenty. Were home breads. That is very very special. Well if you're asking me what To your previous question that probably would have been in as well. I think it's It's such a testament to shape muhammed to his Commitment to racing in america to the building up this broodmare band and he's put together and in a very very dynamic stallion roster. I mean this is you know who's breeding top and bottom and I think to to see the home-bred program. I think that's everybody's You just you just you just share the the excitement together when it's when it's spread around so many people that have so much to do with this as we all know this from the inside you know from the guys that sit down here and suggest the mating plans to really get in these mares foal to to the bar and getting them raised up getting them off the farm and again a lot of carrying hands go through this and and i think that's probably As good a film as anything no one. That's it's such a big team effort with so many people contributing so many different ways. You caught me off guard with your next statement when you said that this year will mark the beginning of the fifth decade that shaykh mohammed has been racing in the united states. That one took me back. I i didn't think it had been five decades. That's incredible you. Just starting his fifth forty something years just starting into the fifth decade and and You know it's it's He's he's testing the time he he doesn't seem to age. It's just you know everybody likes the same same shape. Muhammed you know that same. Same figure. same enthusiasm And and he's You know what a patron of the turf what what a. I don't think you can say enough positive to what he does. Both on and off the off the track for sure yeah. There's no doubt about that. How would you jimmy some up. Shake mohammad's approach his philosophy to the sport of thoroughbred racing both breeding and racing. Well that's a great question. Because it's something i admire about. Him is his kalosevici. Heat as you know is a point is a philosophy aries as many many things and obviously that would say a lot of thoughts of things. And i think he's. He's got a wonderful attitude. I think is he doesn't try push. Issue doesn't try to put too much on anything a little bit. More of what will be will be and he's He's happy to accept the goodness and the unfortunate that come from those things and you know certainly no. He's experienced every high and low low so You know he is a a consummate horseman in his own. Right and a very philosophical. And i think that's what makes everybody in the organization not only try but respect so much that he understands and He appreciates and You know he. He's been there so it's not something that didn't work that also and everybody hangs her head. He really Encourages and picks everybody up and keep that good attitude. So i think philosophy helps everybody just relax and do their part and understand that some days it works better than other days but That would be. That would be one of his i think. Great characteristic is just his overall philosophy. And that's you know with horses in life. In general he's very very philosophical. You now i mentioned in the beginning of our interview as the yeah as i was introducing jamie echinacea say that That v quist a daughter of darley. American stallion nyquist was named the champion two year old filly and and rightfully so what are your she had. How special was that to have a daughter of nyquist be named a champion. Well it's just You know that's the that's the that's the top prize. You know i think. When all these young great racehorses retarded shed race record there's last only so long and then very quickly it goes to what kind of producing and then very quickly goes to. What are your results and When you when you are able to secure a champion and your first crop You know. I think that's that's the ultimate goal for everybody and we're very very very grateful for having croissant board and Both in prostitute. Great great young additions to the roster and both have hit the mark and founder success. So you know at the end of the day comes down to performance on the track for your offspring to be the leading freshman sire and to have a champion eclipse two year old. Filly your first crop send you a long way down the road and continues to give brief great copy an nyquist and you know he certainly was not a one horse wonder. So he's he's had. Probably the best news is such a broad base of of very very high level performers. Let's look ahead to twenty twenty one. What do you do for an encore jimmy Try to stay in the buggy. You know just just be appreciative and be grateful for the good things. Come our way and it's It's a you know recognizing the Enormity of such a team effort knows on the track and at the farms and and the involvement of so many people to make this to make these things happen. It's it's It's it's a lot of a lot of working hands on the scenes trying to trying to do the best. We can to put force and competitive race horses and quite frankly. We're you know as well know things change very abruptly in this game But at the same time this is this is a pretty strong group for for golf and perfect it off and Going into a racist things with a couple of very nice older horses. Obviously some very exciting. Three year olds and We can still hope. There's another not in the batch coming along you know with misty god and build. Were very excited to see them back in action. And then you know we've got obviously essential quality but prevalence was awhile performance down gulfstream and a very very gutsy little horse proxy. that's mike steadham. It's done nothing wrong and continues to climb the ladder so a lot to be excited about an awful lot to be grateful for. Yeah this game can be like a roller coaster at times. You experience. that with max 'field last year with some of the things that he went through even going back to the year before with some of his injuries. He's overcome all of that to see him. Back on. top of his game is certainly pretty awesome. And then you flip the script around and you go through an undefeated campaign. Almost no strong is path with a central quality. And let's hope that continues here in twenty twenty one as he gets ready to debut in the south west at oakland on february fifteenth but Jimmy it was quite a year. And i know twenty. Twenty one is in great hands with yourself and with darley dan and would shake mohammed the entire team godolphin and darlie very special and all the best my friend. Keep it rolling. Well thank you so much. It's always a pleasure. You're doing great job and we're always honored to be a part of your programme. Jimmy appreciate it jimmy. Bell dolphin president here on the horse racing radio network. Yeah i mean what a year and you think about what they went through. A mcafee wasn't easy with max field with all of those injuries. They'd get them close. They'd point them toward the breeders cup juvenile remember and then he got hurt before that race then he was pointing for the kentucky derby then he was off the derby trail then. Oh look maybe he'll get back on the derby trail and then no not quite. I mean brendon walsh. What a job he has done with. Max fueled in getting him back to top form after everything he had to overcome. And then here comes. The central quality undefeated click click. Click breeders cup juvenile championship highest highs and lowest lows. This game will test you but nobody has stood the test of time as well. The shaykh muhammad five decades really. Yeah that's still blows my mind. I didn't realize it had been that long. But kudos to everybody with godolphin and with dr might thanks to jimmy bell that interview brought to you by embrace the race. The apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race dot com. 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It had originally drawn two hundred and thirty eight nominees but that number was cut down to one hundred and thirty-three eligible 's prior to race a reason that a short field of seven one post road was that three of the seven race as a single betting interest or trainer. John gave her the manhasset stable. Amphitheater the sir galahad the third colt who had won the saratoga special and commanding style. The green tree colors were by shutout yucca. Poised coltart coltrane second and the special and won the grand union hotel stakes and double divers. The other half of their entry. Double diver was a saint. Germans coulthard one second to shutout in both the grand union and the sanford. Mrs payne whitney own green tea and her daughter. Mrs payson owned manhasset stable as an aside. A horse named buster was in the field and he was owned by. Mrs payne whitney son. John hay whitney they had in those days come to be known as quote unquote the royal family of the american turf to most observers. They're three-horse entry of devil. Diver shut out. An amphitheater looked to be unbeatable. All three had been racing against better company than there was in this field and scored impressive wins shortly after the start. Double diver glided to the lead and his stablemate shutout with right there prompting to pace under the venerable. Hetty eddie arcaro. Those two are on the lead onto and around the far turn with the rest of the small feel well bunched and not far back around that far turn. There was considerable jockeying for position which resulted in some bumping. The primary offender was shutout under our our carol jostled chow jing remedies a good bit amongst others. Devil diver clung to the down on an even know tiring a bit in the final furlong and wanted by it. Open length shutout was second by a length amphitheater third so the three horse century nail down the top three spots. In fact buster finished fourth so the entire amount of the stakes went to the whitney family. The rest of the story and the result of a very roughly run race was that an ask no quarter and give non eddie arcaro who just resumed writing the previous week after a thirty day suspension for rough riding an empire city was once again suspended for his cowboy tactic so to speak and this running of the hopeful pending a hearing of course at that hearing the stewards of the jockey club suspended him for the rest of the year. Many thought of suspension should have been for life since the fall of the hopewell was so blatantly flagrant. You think the young aggressive and precocious arcaro would have learned his lesson from that. But not eddie early. The next year in the cowden stakes are carolina's. Mount got bumped just after the start while he was aboard occupation the offending writer. Was vince node. Arse aboard breezing home are carol occupation eventually caught up to breezing home and no darshan. The late stages of that race are carol then brought his up outside of note arson breezing home and literally tried to put nobody over the inside rail the stewards called daddy and after the race and asked him just exactly what he was trying to do. Said any. I was trying to kill that cuban that eddie got suspended for one year a hopeful of nineteen forty one in august and the victory of double diver and our caros rough ride in it plus the aftermath and at er caros career a truly memorable if not great moment as part of one of the legends of thoroughbred racing visionary design performance and imaginary technology. That's lexus when every detail. Every moment and every emotion is crafted by lexus. It leads to amazing experience. 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This is showed mcgahey and relentless in horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network presented by health networks. Cbd at the quarter pole the right of a lifetime turning for home in front midnight. Bourbon to the attack notary gibbs way down the side of the track sitting on kgo continues to close. There's one furlong left midnight. Bourbon comes away with the lead satan. Ongo ken continues to close your sitting on kgo. Who's up for the lead at the sixteenth paul sitting on go up over midnight bourbon and superstock sitting on go twenty four over midnight. Bourbon superstock in the right of a lifetime. Welcome back to the forum presented by health networks. Cbd on this saturday morning. Mike ten baron of the backstretch with you that was travis stone with the call of the great three iroquois at times downs on september fifth of last year. A win by sitting on. Go for trainer. Del romans under jockey corey landry. Who will be back aboard sitting on go for his three year. Old debut later this afternoon in the holy bull stakes at gulfstream. Gonna be joined by corey coming up in just a minute but first it is time now for another new weekly segment. We brought it through the past few weeks. Actually here on the equine forum. It is brought to you by our friends. At i bet and now today's i bent today's first. Baton comes from ray seven at gulfstream park. Which is a maiden special weight race on the turf and should go right around. Two forty four eastern number two action jackson ninety two on the morning line has a thirty percent. I that win projection rates sixteen points higher than the next poses win contender and is a top two ranked contender in five of the ten. Most important i bet factors in this race trainer. Happy joseph junior changes jockeys to the meets leading writer rod ortiz. Junior and action. Jackson is well drawn in post to in a capacity field on turf. 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Don't forget promo code sport of kings when you sign up and if you already have express medi-cal you're way ahead of the game simply log into i met using your username and password on your authorizes. During twenty one years old kids do better presenting the states legal integrated national eight hundred five to two forty seven hundred. See now that i bet segment you just heard is one of the reasons why i never made it as a track announcer grew up wanting to be a track announcer. Idolizing tom durkin. I wanted to be the next tom durkin. But you hear a name like action jackson right and you see how slow i had to go to pronounce it now. It took me like three takes to get that right and the piece you just heard. That is why. I couldn't do it like you. Put ten twelve horses in the gate. You got action. Jackson going to the front and then all these other horses mixing it up with other names forget it. That was one of the reasons the other reason was. I just couldn't remember the horses names. If you're going to be a track announcer that's kind of important. One name. i could remember is sitting on the winner of the iroquois at churchill last year. He's back with his three year. Old debut in the holy bull stakes this afternoon and reunited with his good friend. Jockey corey landry. Who let me tell you. One of the more underrated writers in the sport of thoroughbred racing corey has ridden was closing in on five thousand wins his total today. Four thousand seven hundred. Eighty one wins. He has mounts in four of the five greatest stakes. Coming up at gulfstream. Today and corey is nice not to spend a few minutes with me this morning. Appreciate it brother how you doing. I'm doing good man. everything's going. Well yeah it is going well for you. You've been on a roll and you have been for a long time but You come back with the mountain for the greatest stakes three of those or for trainer dale romans. How cool is that corey to be in a bar like dale as they say into the barn as a writer and writing for a guy like dale. Romans who you know is gonna put you on live horses. Yeah he's always good. You know and you go in confident you know. 'cause dell dell wins a lot of races and shows up in the big races also you know and so you always go in there and you have a chance. And he's got. He's got a lot of good horses. Let's talk about the big horse sitting ongo and we'll walk back through the other stakes too. But i i wanna start with sitting on go and then we'll kind of go backwards but this is a horse that now makes his three year old debut you one With him in the gray three iroquois at churchill last year look back on that performance. What do you remember about that race. That race was outstanding. You know he He broke he was ranked kind of mid pack litter towards the back and we got him outside and got him clear. Finished really really fast and really good and i was very impressive. And then after that he's back and he's running he ran a bad race and then he came back and he run a okay race and Hopefully spirit talking about with him and got him back to where he was air force because I think he's a really nice. Are you mentioned the way he finished in the iroquois and he did he came from almost last he was nine of ten and then stormed home and drew off in one by two and a half lengths. How how rare is it corey to have a a young horse a two two-year-old and have them be able to sit and relax like that it seems to me like most of these young horses just wanna run off on the front end yell you know Just aren't fast enough to get to the end. I think that they would just kind of output it and But but he just run raking he said he said confident back there and like i said once i got him out. He just came home fast but he. He's a harsh. He doesn't have a whole lot of speed. So he's gonna be towards the bet you know. I'm always amazed when i see jockeys on these horses. That are closers. Come from off the pace and they they time their moves perfectly. It's almost you know. They talked about having a clock in your head. How do you do that corey. What's the key to making your move at the right time with a horse like sitting on go who comes from off the pace You know it's hard to explain. I don't think there is a it's just do it. You just go out there and you react and Just kinda ride. I guess if you were racing another human you know if you're far back you're gonna kinda start to move up if you can catch them and try to catch them right on the wire but It's hard to put a finger on exactly what it is that makes it happened. I know you'll spend a lot of time looking through the past performances and watching replays before you go into any race really but certainly a big race like the holy bowl later today. What exactly is your preparation coming up to a race like this corey looking raising farm. You know and kind of see where where the pace is gonna be See how where. I'm going to be laying it Now we can. We watch the replays replacing my horse and the other horses you know and just kinda learn learn. What would they do in a race where they gonna be In kinda draw plan in your mind you know and But then we all know the gates open and anything can happen and all of that can go right out the window. You're very familiar with another horse in the holy bull and that's number two willie boy who rode in each of his first two starts both of those being wins at gulfstream park. The end up going with sitting on go your greatest stakes winner but tell me a little bit more about willie boy and what we might expect from him in this race yeah. He's a nice archie. No he's done anything wrong It was It was tough decision To figure out who to ride and 'cause you know. He stepped up both times and and run racist He'll be stretching a little further. This this time you know so business could be a question and And he's he's facing some a little bit better horses so You know he's got a step up and move forward but Like i said he's he's done nothing wrong so far corey. There's so many people listening that we'll just pick up the racing form or the the past performances and they'll see your name on a different horse in this race like it is going from willie boy to to sit on go and they don't understand what goes in to a decision when the jockey has to make that call it's is you said it wasn't an easy decision. What are some of the factors that that play into making a call like that well. One of the big factories was one of my decisions to come back to florida. Was dale said. I come back here and and ride all of his horses. You know go So kind of was my law. He was there for that and You know. I wanna wanna grady race on sitting on goes so it's hard to take a harsh hadn't faced kind of company yet and Over over sitting on go you know. He's got to prove himself and And show that he belongs talking jockey. Corey lanteri here on the horse. Racing radio network corey. Let's go backwards here and we'll go to your first greatest steak mount today. It's also for dale romans. That is kings ovation now. This is a horse that you'll be aboard for dale for the very first time another horse making three year old debut. What do you know about him. You know i actually didn't watch replay now. But the racing form and he he won a churchill. He was another one kind of like sitting on goal. Came from the back and And random down So but i hadn't been on my Replays and read the racing form. But i actually saw him school in the paddock yesterday and he looked really really good. He looks like reading is i. I was talking to you in baltimore. And he said he grownups and he's got really a lot bigger than than he's doing really good veteran claiborne. Farm's swail stakes later today. that is race number six in race number nine. Which is the forward gal. You come back dale. we'll give you a leg up again this time on a horse name lady traveller this three year old daughter equality road. Who you did ride wants. You wrote her last time in the gray to goldenrod. Tell me a little. Bit more about lady traveller. Yeah that racing. The goldenrod was a disappointment. Because i know they were pretty high on her Going into the race and she some reason or another she didn't run a race so hopefully she's back to herself and Has a good chance in there. But he was real promising. I think she won her first or second time out. And then after that went to the state but She's she's really nice and hopefully she's turned around and ray run a big one today. You know she's four to one on the morning light so she certainly one of the contenders from that respect And then the next race the great three sweetest chant. Queen of the green is the horse. You're aboard for trainer. John arnett What do you know about queen of the green. Not too much you know. I've read the forum and Just doing that. And i'm gonna watch replays but not much information on that one yet yeah. He's corey landry and get one of the more underrated riders in the sport. He'll be prepping for these races throughout the morning and four the five greatest stakes. He'll be active and later today. Corey listen man. It's always a delight to catch up the appreciate you spending a little bit of time all the best safe trip every time you get a leg up and good luck later today i man. Thanks very much all right. Thanks corey landry yet. you know. that's the interesting thing you know. You hear him talk about queen. The green and very honest would you know about her. Well not a whole lot yet. And that's one thing that's always intriguing to me right. He's never been aboard. Queen of the green and john are net is not del. Romans in terms of the number of horses that in the number of mounts. He's gonna give to corey landry so he's going to have to do some homework here and he's going to have to do as much as he can. Learn about queen of the green reading through the past performances watching the replays. He'll do all that and you heard him say he's just looked at the form. But i can tell you in the jocks room in in every jack across the country but at gulfstream for sure there are replay machines. And when you go in there. And i've been in there countless times to interview so many of these riders. So many of the. They're just not sitting around playing pool or cards. A lot of them are spending time watching replace in i. I've had many times where i've had to wait for jockey to come downstairs to meet me for an interview and i'll spend ten fifteen minutes sitting in there at the counter. We're they'll do breakfast and lunch. And all that kind of stuff for the riders. And i'll just watch the way that many of the writers prepare to go about their day and you see that a lot those replay machines are they get wore out. They really do it. And that's one thing. The cory will be doing later today when he gets in there. He'll probably pull ups some replays before he goes to the track. But i'm sure he'll be watching when he gets there too and Again big day for corey landry. Coming up that interview brought to you by embrace the race. The apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race dot com right in the next segment. Our industry star the week presented by stuart morris. Then get your set for our to our two of a three hour. Show here this morning. The first three hour equine forum in the history of the horse racing radio network in this show by the way predates me. I started in two thousand and three when the show is one hour. 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It's still tracy's girls catch tracy's girls in front. You're killing me beth. I wanted to take a crack at her. But it's still wide open here highs in it with a chance then comes dom lady in between runners. You're killing me beth's in front you're killing me. Beth is going to give trainer. David walters his fifteen hundred enough tribute to a fantastic horsemen. You're killing me. Beth wins it by three dom lady been towards the outside was hurricane. Director in fifty four and three policy knows who the call of that maiden win for. You're killing me beth. At charlestown january thirteenth was the eighth race of the evening. You're killing me. Bath trained by david. Walters who spent an hour with me this past week on our trainer talk show presented by phasing tipton and it was such a delight to hear his story. He's a great family man. His wife has been by his side for roughly three decades. Maybe longer than that. And he finally gets that fifteen hundred milestone win back on january thirteenth and i thought it was appropriate that i honored david again here. This morning is your industry star of the week. This segment brought you every saturday. By stuart morris who offers a boutique full-service bloodstock operation. He's all over the map. He was down in ocala this week. One of the hardest working guys racing and he wants to is owners as clients and his team. He knows his success is because of you it would multiple stakes sources over the past several years that include henley's joy our brain. Trust mela ghazi. In south bend stewart morris is your source for success at the highest levels. Visit the stewart. Moore's consignment at all the major sales. Well david david. Walters started the conversation this morning by looking back on that milestone win with. You're killing me beth. It was special. It was certainly special. Share it with my family. Who kept coming over and company for that that one special win and they finally put their time in and got it done. How long were you sitting on fourteen ninety nine before you finally reached it. I believe it was a couple of weeks Maybe mid december And at that point When fourteen ninety nine came about. I i didn't know where i was at until paul announced it When that particular horse wants i had no clue what number i was at 'cause i gave it no thought i did want to think about it. There's more pressure you put on yourself the longer it takes. Did you feel more pressure knowing that you were just one one win away when you found out after fourteen ninety nine i did. Yeah sure did. Yeah how'd you deal with the pressure. it really wasn't what you call pressure. It was just a matter of getting it over with. And and what horse you would do it with whether it would be Your big clients or one of your own that you bread you know it was it certainly Good whoever owned the horse but It's just a question which one it would be. Well this particular philly. You're killing me breath. Which as i mentioned. I i love that name that just such a a cool name when you think about it because that that expression you oh you're killing me you're killing me. Her second career start her first and sixteen months. So maybe a more unlikely winner for you to to reach fifteen hundred. Tell me her story well. She was She ran wants at gulfstream and had some ten in this us after that race and the owners decided To give her some proper amount of time which turned into be over a year and Of course you know. It was a slow climb back for and at the race. I pointed or to It was only four. And a half furlongs and i thought the philly was plenty enough but was the race long enough. That was the only thing in doubt for me Which as it turned out She was forwardly placed and Wasn't too far out of it. And when they turn own she was close enough to kick it gear and get the job done when she finally crossed the finish line. And she's in front. And you realize okay. We did this. We just hit fifteen hundred. The pressure is off. I'd imagine it was a big celebration. You mentioned your family and we'll talk more about them. But how would you put into words what that moment was like david. It was a lot of things going around in my mind. The people that helped me get here. the good owner that i have of the employees that i have and have had in the past. They make it all possible. Because you're only as good as the people around you and the people he trained for And through the years I've had a lot of good clients and to this day i still do. I have people that are trained for Since nineteen seventy nine and They're the ones that that pay you to train. And and you know they believe in what you tell them and Everything seems to work out when when you have clients like that. What else do you think you might be doing it. If if you weren't training horses right now. What you be doing for a living. Oh gosh that's hard to say. That's a great question. And and unfortunately i can answer. I really have no clue what i'd be doing in life if it wasn't for horses now like so many trainers who've had success in the sports singularly focused the key to everything they've accomplished. It is true for david. Walters our industry star of the week for the saturday morning. Presented by stuart morris. I'll be back with our number two right after i pause ten seconds for station identification. Is the horse racing radio network. Hi this is the big amp needs to be on with this week's hr rn racing update kentucky derby and breeders cup classic winner authentic and his horse of the year and champion three year old honors out the eclipse awards. This past thursday mom. What girl won her. Second of the frenetic brad cox's first and jockey around. Rt's junior made it three in a row. There are two road to the kentucky. Derby points races today at gulfstream trainer. Todd pletcher looks the pine nick zito and care mclaughlin for most wins in the holy bowl with one of his two interest accent. Anita trainers vowed. Bathroom and doug. O'neill will send out a pair of runners in the robert. Louis post time at the great race plays has been changed at twelve thirty pacific for both saturday and sunday at sam houston on sunday trainer. Mike maker sends out three runners. He looks for his record. Eighth win in the john connally turf cup. While the the apple looks to win back to back runnings of the houston ladies flashing host time for the special sunday card is one forty-five central. That's your hr and racing update. Now let's go back to host. Mike penner for our two of the equa- forum think rise and shine. Hr a nation if you haven't already. Let's do this hour two of a three hour equine forum. Show this morning. Mike pence baron of the backstretch. Happy to have you back with me and this really is a special show ushering in an exciting era with our flagship program. This show is known as the show that launched network in today we expanded with all new content and this will happen each and every week. Now you'll be able to join me from eight to eleven and you'll be able to participate in the show with a special call in segment. That segment today comes up right around ten twenty eastern. When i opened up the phone lines and let you weigh in on all things racing. Let me know who you think will win the holy bowl. If you've got gotta pick in the robert b lewis or if you want to share your thoughts on our poll question today which so many of you are already doing at. Hr on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook and the poll. Question is pretty simple. Which of today's three-year-old stakes races is most likely to produce the kentucky derby winner and you have four choices. the swail the holy bull the kitten's joy or the robert b lewis and no surprise that the holy bull in the kitchen or the robert louis. The two points races are far and away. The leaders in the voting process right now the holy bowl forty seven percent of the vote. The robert b lewis. Thirty eight percents. That's a little surprising to me. And i'll talk more about this later. When i visit with other special guests including trainers mike mccarthy and doug o'neill i think the robert b lewis is the stronger of the two prep races but apparently hr a nation doesn't forty seven percent saying the kentucky derby winner if it comes one of those four greatest sakes today. It's coming from the holy bull interesting stuff all right again. You have new segments coming up including bekker's stroll through racing history which debuts at nine twenty eastern and in the room sean clancy at ten o'clock eastern that's a one on one jockey to jockey conversation that you won't want to miss. He sits down virtually with kendrick car. Moosh some of the things coming out of that conversation or just spectacular. Sean tremendous drying things out of writers. Since he's played the game he's been there. He knows what writers are going through. Stay with me for that segment coming up at ten o'clock eastern time this morning big day down in texas tomorrow. The houston racing festival which is a program that is near and dear to so many people's hearts and i know it is for chris griffin. Who is the track announcer there. It's ten race program with a special. I post of one. Forty-five central to forty five eastern six stakes races to with those threes the houston ladies classic. And the john b connally turf cup and again that all happens. Tomorrow and chris griffin is with me now from south texas. Chris good morning my friend morning. Good morning mike. It's great to be back with you and Yeah we're ready to roll. It's going to be a fun afternoon tomorrow. And we're really looking forward to it. No shortage of storylines. I talked about it at the top of the show. You had defending champion lady apple for steve acid one of two horses he has entered into the houston ladies classic. The john b connally turf cup. Well typically it's all about. Mike maker may be again this year too. Yeah he's got plenty of horses that he is bringing over For the the big day here that he's been racing festival and when he's on the turkish turf. Obviously you've gotta take notice. He's got three in there You die also is entered in the houston ladies classic and. Yeah you talk about those two great three events. It seems like he's he's got some real live shots actually like him in texas turf mile a little bit as well so You follow him and and kind of way around some of those horses. I think you can have a nice day if they get to the winner's circle but There's a lot of grey bars a lot of nice horses and we're looking forward to some great racing. I've been very spoiled in the last two renditions of the houston ladies classic midnight. Be sue and then a great finish last year lady apple and defending champions back but The truth does come to play motion emotion down towards the inside and ken mcpeek. Scott one and Mike makers you mentioned and then the local horse and she's fastest so it's a it's a real nice group that's a real nice card and we're looking forward to it for people that have never been to sam. Houston chris Tell me a little bit more about the race track. And i know that you know certainly fans will there be first of all tomorrow. Yeah so there will do limited attendance as far as fans. There's there's very strict protocols As far as your temperature taking when you do enter You gotta wear a mask. And i wa- remind people throughout the day to make sure that they do wear their masks and We we are doing the best we can hear at the s. Hrp and there will be some fans in attendance absolutely well. It's good to hear so for people who've never been to sam houston. But how would you describe to somebody who's asking you about. Yeah so this is houston texas. They're very passionate the horsemen a very passionate fans are very passionate. And the better are are really into the product and for us That's what percent take horizontal wages. The great thing but as far as the race track it's very it's a great facility. the track surfaces of have been raised about five horsemen about many people. And you hear about some of the connections that have come over to run on the economy of course They have talked about the condition of the turf course and how horses liked to run over at how nice it is and so i've heard that from multiple horsemen that they've brought horses here because of what they've heard about the track surfaces and and they're looking forward to it This region is continuing to grow you know with with the raisin purses and and state of texas really getting involved to to push force racing and started put it on a national landscape This just continues that and for us to offer these good stakes races and The couple great threes and the houston ladies classic who knows where that racing go the texas turf miles then a very well received event Going to turns on the grass and For strictly for three three year olds. And it's a it's a really positive atmosphere and things are going well and we're we're growing in this region and you could sell that A lot of folks are a really excited about it here in the houston area but this is the twenty seventh year that and he's been around and It's everything is good. And i'm i'm lucky to be in the booth and be able to call some racist that'll be fun. I'm glad you brought up the texas turf mile. Because in addition to the two grade threes there are four other stakes races. The texas turf mile the pulse power turf sprint. You have the jersey lilly turf and then the stone inside sprint. So what other storylines. And we'll talk more about the to grade threes in a minute. But what other storylines. Are you going to be keeping an eye on. Throughout the day chris. Yeah storyline wise. I mean i think that The donor sites sprint looks a little bit more wide open than than folks might think i mean. I think it's i think it's interesting to see some of these connections that they're gonna take a shot you know nitrous has been running against very tough horses but he does draw the rail and i think that Some folks have had a question mark whether whether the eight to five is going to be a little too short on the morning. Line there to take that proposition for a six furlong race to seventy five thousand dollars stakes race. I think the the five per along the pulse power sprint on turf Is another one. That looks looks like a tough race. steve asmussen is is well known in this region and he could also win quite a few races multiple stakes races on the program and he morning line wise He has the potential to do just that The texas turf mile is a race that you just see is now as as we've we've brought now in its second year and it's it's just been so well received to have a restricted three-year-old race on the turf I think the biggest storyline out of there is that who knows where this her force can go. You know we're we're seeing some real rising stars in this race in a big full field and we've got a couple also eligible so if there are any scratches and they'll get in I think that that's a. That's a real Testament to what we've done here and management. And everybody. And i think a lot of people are looking forward to that texas mile. I think i think that that one has a lot of excitement. And you're seeing todd. Pletcher has got a couple entered in there. And you see mike maker and you see Peter earn one from the west coast than and we'll see and then texas bad boy is again a local horse that kevin scholla's is two for two and the horse is going to be fifteen two one going to be double digit odds and He likes the horse and if that horse can get up. I think that would be a very special win because he stabled right here. Texas bad boy so lots of nice story lines. And there's some great ones in the great threes as well because We've got some nice story. There with big favorites in texas bad boy could prove the hometown hero in that texas turf mile. Two hundred thousand dollar purse. It's race seven post time. Six o'clock eastern. That is five o'clock local time central time at sam houston for the houston racing festival. Which comes your way tomorrow. Visiting with chris griffin. Who is the announcer at sam. Houston you heard him talk about the names that he's had the privilege to call the past couple of years like midnight. Be sued the champion. Who made her stop there in the the houston ladies classic and then you had a lady apple last year. She's back to defend her title. Here in twenty twenty one but she faces a tough task. You know you look at that field. The houston ladies classic. Great three of three hundred thousand. It's a mile and a sixteenth on the main track. Lady apple is four to one but the favourite's role is going to go to the horse on the outside number seven lotrowska. You said earlier. She comes to play. She usually does chris. Yeah she really does and i. I've said a couple of times that There's no gray area here are completely all in the trista or they are. They are playing against him. The spot She likes the distance. He's been to the distance. She is here and trainer. Fausto gutierrez has been schooling her and she's been going out some morning gallops and whatnot and she's she looks the part i think she's she's got speed. She's got an outside post. I think that's gonna help her a lot. I guess from a handicap standpoint. It just depends on if anyone goes with her. You know motion. Emotion looks to have some speed the rail and does draw the rail. So i think One that could challenge for the early lead but if literacy gets out there by herself she could be tough. and it's You're seeing hedges cats on board. You know i was looking through it. I i was taking a look at Quite a few of the runners in this race. And i don't believe as i look through Some of these running lines that i that the writers are all first time on the horse And every horse in the race the it looks like each the new writer so I felt like that was kind of an interesting tangled. Take a look at his well as that These writers are gonna get accustomed to these really nice phillies mayors for the first time in this great three. You mentioned motion emotion to breaks from the inside post and these are the connections that brought us horse of the year. Authentic with my racehorse dot com and spendthrift farm. This is a five year old daughter of take charge. Indy and she has a little bit early zip. Don't know she's quick enough to go with the truce gush. She may find herself in the stalking position. Which from the rail could bode pretty well for her right. Yeah i think. I think there's gonna be an early decision. Made that. I turn you know when they when they had to that i turn. You're gonna see pretty quickly. I think how this race shape is going to go If most in emotion can hold position. And i'm not sure she can against the truce guy into that i turn then that opens it up. I think it makes it wide open. Because you know every everyone else doesn't seem to be able to be able to run with the truce cut early. She did she. Fastest has shown a little bit early zip and even figure it out has has shown a little bit of speed. But can they really. I'm not sure if they can quite up there with with the truce commotion emotion. I think can Early on and you know if we feel really quick upfront. With it went pretty quick last year. It does set up lady apple. I mean her four might not be quite the same as it was last year coming into the race but She's had that some back race. You finished behind wool nelly at fairgrounds and she likes the distance. Five of nine and she likes the racetrack. And you're going to get to one On the mr elliot. So leader writer leading trainer at the meat so far. So it's a it's a. It's an interesting little handicapping kinda puzzle to put together. Because i think that you can. You can really make the case you say if true to get the breeder down the backside. She's probably gone But if she's got pressure could open it up for somebody at a little bit. Surprised yeah ladies. Classic is race eight the race following it is the other three john connally turf cup and another big field set to go. We mentioned the success that mike maker has had in this race over the years. He's won seven of the past nine. He has three chances to make it eight of the last ten. None of his three horses though are favorite in this race. That honor goes to spooky channel under julian peru. Who is the five to two morning line favorite. Yeah i mean and look at His last running. Line there in that great to the fort lauderdale He finished behind largest. And i think that jumped off the page. I think people are gonna take notice that That the horses run in the grade one to starts back at belmont the manhattan and then ran pretty decent there in the great to the horse wanted to distance deserves to be the favorite. I think in this spot Has been keeping some very tough company and ships in and obviously brian lynch. Has this one ready to roll. Going the mile and a half You take a look at my makers runners. Yeah you can't ignore them in this spot you gotta either play all three on a ticket or you got to choose which one you really want to side with. I know some folks have talked about. They like the journey to freedom quite a bit coming off the break. Since november twenty seventh condition trade was an interesting one is cutting back in distance. Actually from two miles and I don't know where mars is gonna be spotted. That's kind of an interesting one for me because the horse has been running long and distance had shown speed there saratoga but Cuts revenge looks to be alone on the front. I don't quite see who's going to run with the seven And that's one you know clinton stored stabled here A lot of people are kind of talking about this horse that he likes to be on the front end. He gets pretty brave out there. This is a for him in this great three but he hasn't done anything wrong. I mean he's been very very impressive when he gets to the front and he just keeps going Six hundred twelve and twenty twenty and just been really really game and impressive so it. It looks like it's pretty wide open but then again. Mike makers won seven of these. So you know. It's it's hard to just say i missed. Throw out some of his his runners in here because they all probably have a very very big shot a huge day tomorrow at sam houston the houston racing festival. Ten races six stakes races the to grade threes and of course that low takeout a twelve percent on the horizontal wagers. Let's not gloss over that. Chris because that is something that sam houston has done a fantastic job with with those low takeout Wager so keep up. The wonderful work really appreciate the visit here this morning and can't wait to hear tomorrow at sam. Houston look at portrait. Thanks mike and enjoy the day right. That interview like all of our interviews brought to you by embrace the race. The apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race dot com. Those races have had really good horses over the past several years in this year. 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That's gulfstream park dot com. I'll three-time derby winning jockey. Gary stevens sean bridgman hi. My name is losing to cooperation radio. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network presented by health networks. Cbd comes roaring up the turn bracing for challenge air from cherokee run cherokee run confronts holly holy is digging down and his responding shrubs up challenge. Character run kenya. Rapid neville is but it's holy ran threatened by mike smith and you'll go on to a magnificent mile holy paul by five. Welcome back to the forum presented by health medic. Cbd that one of the signature victories in the career of the great holy bowl. the met mile. Tom durkin with the call. Welcome back mike pence. Berna back with you on this saturday morning. It's no secret for those of you who listen to the show every week. That holy bull is my all time favorite horse and that was one of my all time. Favorite holy bull moments. 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For a horse whose three-year-old season included a twenty five link walk the mountain of youth and eighteen like loss of the kentucky derby he never raced the preakness belmont or the breeders cup classic yet. He was named champion three year. Old male and force of the year in nineteen ninety-four. It might make more sense if we tell you that the horse was holding bowl. Second one holly ball horses and planning owner and trainer. Warren arthur curl jr. better known as jimmy described holy bull as quote big strong well-balanced and athletic in twelve. So horse stood better than sixteen hands had a girth of seventy two inches and weighed nearly twelve hundred pounds but early in his three year old campaign. Holy bowl suffered a twenty five lake the feet in the fountain of youth stakes at gulfstream park a race in which he had suffered a loss of oxygen to his lungs. Because of the throat impairment known as a flip talent so role changed the bit at holy. All responded by winning the kirby and then shipping to keelan to win the bluegrass dates. But on the first saturday in may as the two to one favorite in the one hundred twentieth running of the kentucky derby holy bowl finish twelve to fourteen horses beaten some eighteen lengths by go for gin. The ball has been slow from gate that day and squeeze back entering the first turn on a sloppy track but his trainer never fully accepted those factors as reasons for the defeat poll who died in two thousand eight one said quote. Holy bull had no pat or vigor in the mornings that week he was finding the stall but he was not himself on the track. I never really have figured out exactly what happened. In quote troll decided to give his voice arrest skipping the final two legs of the triple crown. The focus on the summer campaign old bowl responded well to the game plan. Winning five consecutive graded stakes cordray ones culminating with a triumph over older horses in the woodward at belmont part he also counted the metropolitan the wires the haskell and a memorable hard-fought win in the travers stakes among his credits. All that was left was the breeders cup classic but holy ball had been in continuous training for eighteen months. He had already made ten starts on the year and he was not nominated to the breeders cup which meant a three hundred sixty thousand dollars. Supplemental payment was on the horizon. Kroll assess the situation and decided the horse had earned arrest. Holy bowl would not participate in the breeders cup and instead would take a well-earned break to prepare for his four year old campaign. The conventional wisdom was that holy bowl had already done enough to earn a flip. Saunders as champion three year old male and horse of the year the following january those honors made official at be eclipsed ceremony. Holy bowl became the fifth floor. The bread every named horse of the year joining a list which included such great as dr vaguer and affirmed following a one hundred thirty eight day. Layoff holy bull return to the races with a victory in the olympic handicap at gulfstream. Park in january of nineteen ninety-five but on february eleven. He injured a ligament in the dawn handicap and was retired to stallion duty soon. Thereafter four weeks later on march. Eleven nineteen ninety. Five gulfstream. park unveiled its first edition of the holy bull stakes pay tribute to a horse. Who had finished his career with thirteen. Wins from sixteen starts and nearly two and a half million dollars. In earnings holy bowl was a horse. Who's captured the imagination of the public. He was held in such high regard. That someone once remarked that his rare losses were the equivalent of michelangelo smudging to canvas following a successful stallion career in kentucky. He died in two thousand seventeen but the legacy of holy bowl lives on in artan the race at gulfstream part which is named in his honor. Please join me again next week as i stroll for racing history with the inspirational story of another voice to whom we should all be paying a debt of gratitude. Thanks to kurt. Becker for that stroll through racing history again a segment. You'll hear every week here on the program as we look back on a horse on an owner breeder whatever it might be kurt Just so brilliant and putting those pieces together. And i hope you enjoyed it. And i hope you enjoy the pieces coming up in the future as well the holy bull stakes today you know. Obviously we played that clip because in that feature because of the fact that we're celebrating holy ball on this saturday down at gulfstream with the grade. Three holy bull stakes nine horses have been entered into the holy bolt. The favourite at five to two is greatest. Honor for should mcgehee. This is a three year old son of tap it who broke his maiden last time at last time out at gulfstream that was on december twentieth. So this will be his three year old debut but that last effort as a two year old was really really good and you look at what he had done in his racist previous now. He got beat three times before breaking his maiden but came through in a big way last time out. It wasn't like he was embarrassed. He's a horse that comes from off the pace and he was finishing very very well. And if you know should mcgahey. He's a trainer that is going to bring them along and let the horse develop. We'll that's what he's done with greatest honor and he seems to be moving in the right direction. Every race has been better than the previous. And if you're a fan of the late pace numbers in the brisk past performances. Which by the way is all. I used a handicapped. You'll know the greatest honor has decided edge over his rivals in the holy bowl today when it comes to finishing and finishing with vigor with those late pays numbers here earned a one ten late pace number in that made win last time out the race before when he finished second got beat ahead. Here earned a one zero six late pace number. His speed figures have increased every single race. Eighty four eighty eight ninety two ninety seven. Jose ortiz is back aboard greatest honor today and he is the deserved five to two favorite but he has to prove that he can take the next step all of these horses. Do you heard corey landry. In the first half of the program talking about sitting on go for dell romans. He's a grade three winner so that presents a new challenge for greatest honor. Todd pletcher has two horses entered. He has amount and he has prime factor. Todd pletcher has won the holy bull on two different occasions. A win today would put him even with hall of fame trainer. Nick zito and his good friend carey mclaughlin at the top of the list with three wins in the holy bull stakes. Todd wanted in two thousand twelve with algorithms came back in two thousand eighteen with audible and wanted again that year. So if you looking for a little bit of swami angle here all right. I told you he has two horses amount and prime factor. We'll his previous winners. I told you were algorithms an audible. What are those horses have in common. Each of their names begins with the letter a. So it makes sense that todd. If he's going to win with one of his horses today is going to win. The holy bull would number four amount that the farm on that one. And that's the kind of insight you're going to get an expanded three hour equine form show. How about that. There's your swamy angle watches source jump up and win too but No seriously great race. Strong field nine horses and post time for the holy bull as race. Eleven twelve race card is four fifty eastern time time now to shift gears and put some ice in a glass in get the bottle of four roses off the bar and visit with my good friend. Brent elliott who is the master distiller master distiller of the year at four roses. This is your monthly. Visit with brenton brent. First of all good morning my friend. Hey mike how are you. I'm doing well you know it's interesting typically when you join me we'll have kind of an idea of what we want to talk about. You know whether it's the four roses small batch selector or whatever product. We want to talk about brennan. I'm gonna tell you. I have no agenda for this interview this morning. I just one debt. Have you join me and talk about bourbon as the master. Distiller of four roses that's That should be pretty easy to do. Shouldn't it oh absolutely. Yeah i can just tell you that our our product lineup. Maybe there you go. We've got You mentioned small. That was a new addition to our permanent lineup. that was two thousand and nineteen came out fat. I wouldn't did that. It'd been almost Fourteen years since we We actually added something for a lot of the one prior to that. Was small batch the regular small batch bourbon and are single barrel we also have a single private selection and we do limited releases occasionally but They're really four primary purpose and our lineup and each one of those bourbons is different from the other one. Because of the way we do things we do things very differently for us as we create ten different recipes so any given day. If you come to the we're creating one recipe bourbon. And by that i made were using different mash bills. And different east affirmative. We have to mash bills five strains we put those in combination with each other. That's how we arrive at ten recipes and then we can take these ten recipes and mingle them or blended together in different combinations or different proportions to come up with the The different profiles that Make up those different departments. That i just mentioned so. It's really a fun process It makes mingling and stilling. You know a very big part of what i do and What sports unique think. So do you have a chance to try any of those bourbons interesting trump side by side because if you look at any of those compared to each other you're going to see those differences and the differences. You know their ages and proof. But i think more fundamental. You're gonna see a difference because of the different recipes on each one of those brett. How much time would you say you spend on a weekly basis. Let's say experimenting with different combinations of recipes and flavor combinations. Is that something that that you're constantly focusing on out. Not really at. That is something. I love to but For almost as if i'm doing some blending wrangling. It's to select the right batches the right recipes to maintain the flavor profile whatever product we're gonna bottle now for the limited additions or for a new product. Then it's exactly that it's it's experimentation is trying to combat just seeing how different recipes work with each other and and that's a lot of fun. I enjoy doing that you know. I have a four roses front and center on my bar here at the house and I really truly enjoy it. And i'm not saying that because you're doing the interview with me this morning. It is really a wonderful product and I remember when you and i sat down together a few years ago for the first time. When i came out four roses and i had told you that you know i. I wasn't really a bourbon drinker. But i wanted to learn and you gave me some advice. You said you know start with maybe putting a few cubes of ice in there and just let it mellow out a little bit and in that direction and brennan was the best advice i've ever received. And now you know heck give me four roses without any ice in. it's just tremendous. I'm happy to hear that everybody bourbon. I wonder how everyone or anyone that doesn't i. I'm just so confused by it. So i think that you know if someone doesn't like bermuda's found ways to enjoy it yet. What's your go to. I know you love all the products. But what if you had to have one glass of four roses. What's your go to Here recently it's been the select. Yeah yeah that's a great product. What's different about the select in that than the other. Four roses it's It's not chill filtered so that is different. It's a higher proof. Hundred four proof and really. The biggest difference goes back to the combination of the recipes. Just says a real unique flavor profile. It's it is one of our used drains it creates sort of meant the and herbal flavors and so throw that mix and combined with the spicy east rain at the free. Really chrissy unique Type of fruit with the mint and has a lot of mouth feel and funk finish so yeah good to be said about. He's one of the that one. That's the one. I've been drinking more more frequently recently. Yes it's delicious. And i know that was kind of your baby. You put a lot of time and effort into the for roses. Small batch select was there brett an aha moment when you did a taste test or something like that and he said that's it that that's what i'm looking for. I think the whole process was gradual. Loud test plans probably the it was bring that one e-strain with The string together. And once i served experience or unlock that really unique combination of those two. That was kind of what it was all built around. So in a sense that would be a hot unlocking that combination. We'll brent listen and It's always a delight to catch up for a few minutes every month and really appreciate you taking time here this morning keep up. The wonderful work will encourage people to go to To the four roses website and check out the different product lines. And when they're in town stop out to distillery and say hello because you guys just do a fantastic job in really appreciate all of your support of what we do here on the network all. I appreciate mike and hopefully again soon. So coming out whenever you can. You will cheers brent. Brent elliott who is the master distiller master distiller of the year at four roses. Just a remarkable job in it. It's a cool tour when you head out there that the history at four roses which is by the way right down in lawrenceburg kentucky is is spectacular so make sure you check them next time you're in town or if you are local head out there and say hello they. They just do a remarkable job with their products. 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He is over three cents. He was second in the american pharaoh. Beaten three quarters of a length and coming up in just a few moments. I'm going to visit with his trainer. Mike mccarthy about rumba hours three year old debut coming up later today in the robert. B lewis at santa anita but first a reminder that You wanna head down. If you are in town this weekend you want head down to white tail. Heaven outfitters their elite outdoor superstore. If you're a fan of hunting or fishing or the outdoors go see them because if somebody who has grown up hunting their entire life i can tell you firsthand that this is a place that you need to check out and if you do enjoy a deer hunting turkey. Hunting duck hunting fishing archery. The store is owned by former horse. Trainer tavist macauley and they're having a huge sale this weekend forty percent off all of the camouflage products they have and then i believe twenty percent off store-wide so head down to the whiteout have outfitters elite outdoor superstore on nicholasville road. Just about three miles south fayette mall and even have an indoor archery range show. You can go down there and test out your new. It's all pretty cool white tail. Heaven outfitters elite superstar. Just three miles south of the fayette mall in nicholasville kentucky. Well i mentioned mike. Mccarthy is gonna join me from california momentarily but first it's time for your weekly segment presented by spendthrift it is calling all three-year-olds and they're all spendthrift farm presents calling all three year olds with bobby newman. Last week. oaklawn park kicked off their twenty twenty one season with the smarty jones stakes. The brad cox training camp river was coming off an impressive maiden when at churchill downs and he was sent off the prohibitive three to five choice in his first try against winners he broke alertly from the outside post went straight to the lead and powered away from his competition around the far turn and down the lane to win by over ten lengths while covering the mile in one thirty eight over a track that was labeled fast but playing slow. It was very impressive and ten kentucky. Derby points with the wind. Look for him in the great to rebel at oakland on march thirteenth for his next start. Speaking of impressive wins. Brendon walsh unveiled the godolphin-owned prevalence at gulfstream park last weekend. He debuted at the tough distance of seven furlongs but crush the field by almost nine lengths. While in hand late he'll probably stay in south florida for either an allowance. Race or the great to fountain of youth on february twenty seven two big derby preps this weekend each were ten points to the winners gulfstream host. The great three holy bull bullet a mile and a sixteenth todd pletcher prime factor beat maidens very easily in his debut with six furlongs and. He's bread to be even better around two turns he's had five published works since his maiden win including two bullets. He could be any kind. His main rivals include sitting on go. Who won the grade. Three iroquois a two year old impressive maiden winner greatest honor and both poppy to an awesome jerry who finished second and third respectively in the mutual macho man stakes out at santa anita. Three year olds go a mile and a sixteenth in the great three robert. B lewis trainer. Bob baffert has won the race. A record eight times and it looks like this year's renewal goes through his barn. Once again he sends out both medina spirit and spielberg the former was gaining ground. Late in the great three sham stakes behind life is good while the latter comes off a hard-fought win in the low salvatore. I'll be back with this week's top five list right after this word from spendthrift malibu moon the sire of seventeen. Great one winners on dirt. Second in the world. only to tap it. Among active sires malibu moons progeny have won as many or more of america's most celebrated dirt races as any active sire especially for three year old colts including the kentucky. Derby florida derby santa. Anita derby and arkansas derby among others a living legend malibu moon. ap indies best sire standing at spendthrift farm. this week's top five list of derby contenders looks like this number one. The two year old champ essential quality undefeated won the breeders cup juvenile as a two year. Old he is pointing to the great three southwest stakes at oaklawn park on february fifteenth for his three year. Old debut number two is. Life is good and undefeated son of intimacy. If great to san felipe a on march sixth that santa anita or the great to rebel on march thirteenth at oaklawn. His next targets three is senior. Boosts cadore also undefeated in two starts coming off an eye-catching win and remington springboard mile. Look for him. In the gray to risen star at fairgrounds on february thirteenth number four is prime factor and impressive maiden winner at gulfstream december. Runs later today in the holy bowl and number five concert tour very impressive. Getting his maiden win sprinting. At santa anita from trainer. Bob baffert undecided. Where he'll show up next. That's you're calling. All three year olds segment presented by spendthrift the breeders farm. All right thanks to bobby newman for that segment to the folks at spendthrift for their sponsorship of calling all three year olds. I'm gonna call on a trainer who is going to saddle a pretty good three year. Old in as roma's be lewis at santa. Anita that is trainer. Mike mccarthy who joins me live from california. This morning. Mike good morning. Appreciate the visit Doing well my friend and looking forward to seeing ram bauer get back into action later today. Yeah me too unfortunately. My owner called up last night. Said he liked to scratch and opt to go up north. Suzy el camino real derby Oh okay all right so We'll have to wait another day to see wrong bar Courses doing very well. It's a shame he's not running today. He has a salty race. Though isn't it. I mean you look up. And you see to bob baffert a couple of doug o'neill horses in and it is just it is salty. Yeah wouldn't be too worried about that So we'll see we'll run first time out on a mile and based on a synthetic surface Let's see what happens. Yeah he's a very talented horse. I mean you look back at. What he did is a two year old breaks his maiden on the turf at del mar. I asking His second race. I guess you were probably a little bit disappointed in that. But he had a rough trip in his second race and then second in the american pharaoh beaten the half length and then he comes back and he was. He was fifth in the breeders cup. Juvenile how to use some his two year old campaign. Thought it was solid His first race out was very good. He won Kinda like not not even knowing what he was doing second race bunch of traffic racist better than looked on. Paper galloped out strong is american thorough. I thought we could've made it a little lot tighter. Finish you know. I don't think. Mike thought he was going to be able to get to the winner. Only end up getting beaten. Basically a length for everything. Breeders cup race. Short stretches keeneland unattractive was playing against him was very good horses. How little bit of a break. Since then come back in his trained wealth. Yeah what's his winter. Been like mike. You mentioned training. Well what are you seeing from him. He's carrying good weight acting well. Eating up training with vigor here This race track here at san can be a little tricky to handicapped. Sometimes in the morning His works have been decent but he is getting a lot out of them. What is it that leads mike. Mccurry look you've been around so many good horses. Mike and the city of light you got rags to riches Rolling to i mean there have been some really good horses. You've been around. What is it about rum. Bauer that gives you the confidence that he might be. Kentucky derby caliber Don't know what caliber he is yet. You know Obviously you've running his british cup races very respectable. I don't think didn't distance going to be an issue with him. He's not a very big horse. he's got some good mechanics. He's got a foot On him that tells me he would like an off. Surface a muddy racetrack We don't see many of those out here in california but i thought You know the he was a horse. It's tailor made for racetrack. Like we have out here today as far as going forward where he goes from here. I don't know but You know it's course continues to improve in stay healthy. who knows. Maybe he could end up Wanting something substance. Here later in the spring talking trainer. Mike mccarthy here on the horse racing radio network ron bauer was originally supposed to go in the robert louis. Today instead will scratch head up north to the el camino real derby Mike listen i know you got a lot of things going on and You've got a lot of work to do. But i really appreciate taking a few minutes. Be with me here this morning. All the best round bauer and your other horses moving forward. Thanks all right. Thanks so much. Mike mccarthy it yeah i and you could hear. It is voiced disappointment that he didn't get the opportunity to go today. I think mike feels like he had him sitting on go. And it still doesn't know that was a very honest answer. He still doesn't know. If ron bauer is kentucky. Derby caliber doesn't know what caliber this horse is. And i think you could say that about you. Know i talked about the holy bull stakes earlier too. I think you can say that about all these horses right. Do we really know what caliber any of these forces are. When you look ahead to the kentucky derby. That's a look. We're sitting here on january thirtieth right. That's what we're doing it. You have to prove that you belong every single race now from here on out you have to prove you belong but i think mike you heard him say that he's going to scratch. It had up north. I think he's disappointed. They get round. Bauer started today to at least get a sense of where you are. And here's a horse. That is versatile right. Broke his maiden one mile on the turf at del. Mar you heard the call from larry cole. Miss a short time ago. He comes back and he second beaten just a half length in the great one american pharaoh on dirt at santa anita and then not embarrassed in the breeders cup juvenile. And you heard mike say track. That didn't play to his strengths. We've talked about this. Gosh i guess about seven or eight shows ago now all the different track records that were set at the breeders cup this year and the fact that speed seem to be the way to go ron. Bauer doesn't have a ton of early lick. He was eleventh fourteen early in the breeders cup juvenile. he closed. It was beaten six and a quarter lengths but finished fifth respectable. Mike mccarthy of disappointed. He doesn't get him started today in the robert. B lewis going to visit with. Doug o'neill coming up in the third hour of the program. That's right if you are just tuning in and you missed the news. This show expanded to three hours beginning today. So i'm with you all the way up until eleven. Am eastern and that third hour is loaded. 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And let me know the story of that person who i think. They should be recognized as racing's unsung hero. Mike horse racing radio dot net. Well it's going to do it for the first two hours of the equa- forum. But i am a long way from being done here this morning. The first ever three hour. Equine form show continues all the way up to eleven am eastern. I'm gonna kick off the third hour with another brand new weekly segment that i think you're absolutely going to love. It is in the room with sean clancy. A conversation with journeyman jockey kendrick karmashe. I'm also going to give you the chance to be part of the show. Is i opened up the phone. Lines in a brand new weekly call in segment coming up at ten twenty eastern time and if your local station is indeed leaving us at this time you can continue listening to the third hour of the show. Nationwide on sirius. Xm two oh one in the louisville kentucky market on espn six eighty or on your computer phone or tablet with our live streaming continuing horse racing radio dot net. It's a big big show. As i break new ground and barrel full steam ahead into an entirely new frontier for the first time in the twenty plus year history of the show. I say our three of the equine form is coming up next right after. I pause ten seconds for station identification. This is the horse racing radio network. Welcome to the equine forum presented by health networks. Cbd lady pets. Getty oppressed lady apple. Get up let is at that. Good lady apple to get the win. Last year's lady classic probably lady apples best run of her career. And obviously we're trying to recreate that against sunday Extremely happy with housing training and how she looks Going into sunday's race greatest powered past inconvenienced around the first turn. The greatest honor impressive winner wins links and a half you know that he came down here and you know they will be horses. Awfully get stock grants into i turn. I thought he really finished up. Well and i do think it's a little bit of a process with him and but you know he's also going to run that far national turn round horse and you know whether a mile feet to get a little help and front but You'll you'll see. I see from there and ball side in the final furlong t leaves by three mocking has one. What an wonderful opportunity given us with this philly. She's absolutely beautiful. Trains extremely well. She is training exceptionally well and she does have races to go back on that with could put her in the winter circle on sunday as well that great prize the klingon spielberg pros down by god. Spill comes up that right. One photo heads bobbing finish hittite. The great spielberg now. Here's mike well. Welcome back for the first time in the history of the show i say. Welcome to our three of the equine forum presented by health. Cbd here on the horse. Racing radio network. Mike pinup barron of the back bridge officially and exciting new era with our flagship program. This is the show that launched a network and today we watch a whole new our with special features a call and be part of the show. Yes here is mike pence. I am here with you today and happy to bring you this third hour of the program. This has been a a concept that we've had in mind for a while now and to be able to do this is is really special and a appre. Everybody staying with me here on the the third hour of the program and looking forward to taking your phone calls coming up in just about twenty minutes or so when i opened up the phone lines for that special listener call in segment. If you missed any portion of this show or any of our shows all you have to back to our website horse racing radio dot net and check out the podcast at your leisure horse racing. Radio dot net and horse racing radio network on apple podcasts. And other way that you can access the programs poll question today and so many of you have taken time to weigh in at. Hr twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. Which of today's three-year-old stakes races is most likely to produce the kentucky. Derby winner and i gotta be honest. I'm a little a little surprised by the results. Gave you four choices. The swail the holy bull the kitten's joy or the robert b lewis at santa anita course the first three rowlett gulfstream today. No surprise that. The holy bowl in robert louis would be the two that would be getting most of the attention but there are seven percent of. You said you think it's the swail five percent said okay. It's the kitten's joy which is a turf race. But you could see a horse go to the kentucky derby from there you could but forty seven percent of you thinking it's the holy bull whereas forty one percent or saying it's the robert. Louis i think the robert b lewis is the more difficult of the to derby preps today if i was voting had to vote for the robert b lewis. I'm gonna talk trainer. Doug o'neill who sends out a pair of horses in that race. He'll be with me at ten forty eastern time this morning looking forward to that visit hill. Settle hot rod charlie and wipe the slate of course when you talk about the robert b lewis. It's all about bob baffert. He has a couple of horses in there today. To bob has won the holy bowl or the holy robert lewis a record eight times including each of the past two years when it last year with thousand words in the year before with mutual gustavo. So he's gonna be a tough out. But so is doug o'neill and if you were listening to my interview with mike mccarthy in the previous hour ram bauer is going to scratch from the robert. B lewis had up north and point for the el camino real derby at golden gate. So keep that in. Mind as you're handicapping the race all right so a lot of things to get to here this morning in the third hour of the program including another brand new segment which i am extremely excited about this is the debut of a segment. You will hear every week as part of our expanded equine form. Show former champion jockey sean. Clancy steps into our virtual jocks room to bring you a unique one on one jockey jockey. Conversation exploring the life and careers of writers both past and present. It's a really fun conversation this morning. So without further ado. Let's go in the room. Which sean clancy presented by this is horse racing dot com same with whatever carbos looking for career number thousand and he has done it. God saves got it by free. That's twenty thousand career winters per jockeyed covering this is in the room with sean clancy. Sean clancy. and i'm in the room with jackie. Kendrick car moves sh- kendrick winner of three thousand three hundred and fifty six races leading jacket. Acqueduct fall meet and atop the standings at academic winner meet Kendrick your role. And how does that feel food. A wonderful you know to just be running round and good horses in riding at the top of my game right now. You know like i always have. I just always need the horses. Just feel so good. Just you know to do what i was born in doing. The show off matala. Yeah for sure. Yeah mean out of all the jockeys you were definitely born to do. It can't your dad was the jockey and Take me back to being a kid growing up in louisiana and was there any other options for you. I mean you you really just sit out to be a jockey from day one always set out to be judging from day one you know just i it just living the country live just me and my brothers and my sisters had a couple of showers and opponents my dad route horses and you know i always just I love that horse. I love the animal you know i was. I was brought to the horse at a young age. And i fell in love with pretty much. Any animal you know. Just gotta have that feeling for them and you know my dad pretty much. Just let me follow him around. He never taught me too much. You just told me. Pay attention and listening to learn more. You gotta question at you know at this point right now. This is where i'm at right now. This is where it got me describe your i. I mean we riding. And i guess it was in the louisiana bush tracks me. What was that like for a kid. I mean that's where you kind of started really riding thoroughbreds. I guess right. I'd say well you know my maybe thoroughbreds. Now day you know my dad brokers for my dad broke down breath in quarter horses When i was younger. And i started that way because he he taught us how to just get along with the animal and learn how to rain. And you know you gotta go step by step when you coming up in the country and you know you don't have everything that you should have to get on the horse but you gotta get on him to make sure you learn how to ride one. I and you know. I always was a little skittish about letting horses go faster when i was younger. So my dad never did push me as much you know so a bit more advanced than me than egypt's galloping row for a while and i just was like at one point i told my dad take me to the bush track. I wanna try You know. I never went fast before letting deaths one where i wanna learn how to go fast and i tell you. He put me in gate. I know broke out the gate before he was sitting in a date with me. And my in one of my Best friends like family. Getting like you do this. You do this do this. And you're gonna be is getting the heart center. Take you the gate and ever since then. I was addicted boycotting tech. I love it. How are you that your little old man. I was i was fourteen years old and when i when i heard on i wrote one hundred and bush track. I've never done it. I just wanted to spare is because my dad doesn't it all his you know later in his career so you know i want to have something that that put me with him and his heart and and made him feel good seed me do it. You know sure. Yeah and i race the my look back at delta downs april seventh two thousand and you broke next to your dad that day. I mean that had to be. That was nervous man. I know forget the nervous have been in the gate ever in my life. I was like wow. I knew how to do everything. Because i was writing for like three three years before before i even started when i was sixteen. But it's just if you don't have nerves you never gonna overcome you situation and Maybe even my license the same night the stores walk downstairs and having my license you good to go and what was your dad like. Was he giving he coaching you. I mean going through the no. No no one thing about my dad. My dad silent teacher. What that is. Very surly teaser. He paired watching for a little while. If you keep making the same mistake. Danny gonna correct you. Well i was lucky enough to meet your data saratoga few years back and you could tell me the pride that he has. And you've seen you do what you're doing. I that's got gotta be a good feeling for some I mean you know. This is what You supposed to wanna do in life or your parents and for you for your cell phone for your family in all your loved one when You know hey. This is what we was born to do. Most people most people just want to come and just take life the way. No you gotta go get life and your big move. I mean early on. You didn't stay in louisiana long. You're philadelphia park shortly. Thereafter described that movement. That nervous nerve wracking or calm to go there. What was that like was just my mom and dad always told me never pass up on opportunities so you know i felt like you know every opportunity closer and closer to Bigger races than bigger places. i should go and you know my dad and my mom knew a newer trainer name randy allen and lisa allen and from texas and they got in touch they was in philadelphia inject service. Call me john. Service arm uncle and After that jack service name servers the game he took me from from from louisiana. And that's all she wrote from there and you just doing my hard working. Save your money. And that's all it ever been from from there and just keep your head down work or right for sure and seven titles at philadelphia in that was you're obviously dominant ride around mid atlantic and then then the move to new york. I mean describe that again. Another step up. The ladder fell ready to do that. I mean get nerve racking or what was that like You know for the for the first. The first year i had to get rid of get used to a they because they always are different than smaller track over. And you know it didn't take me long Just because you got to learn how to pace the hearst better than what you usually moving on a mile on a on a smaller mile track You know. I made a lot of mistakes the first year. I wish i can take it back. I'm sure most jockeys wish they can take a lotta racist back but you know you gotta learn from them and you know sit a little longer run a little bit better horses that like what you see on getting now and Just smart that's that's the that's the whole point of it. You know it was. It was tough but you know. I stayed in the fight like a fight. I'm a fighter. Two things to me. Stand out with your ride and one. is your positive attitude and you're always upbeat. Always smiling and two in a race. I think you consistently try to find a position but go forward your aggressive defined a position or to get a get a stalking position or or nearly than take him back and get in that position. Describe taught me through those two things. I mean the positive attitude is that always your style or is that something you learnt yes. That's straight off my dad. I mean my dad always positive. Always happy you know you know. I saw how he dealt with people and how much people love him in People came around because it's positively and he always gave kind words and you know. I just figured that was the right way to do it. If you see people coming around and good person like that. And i took it. I ran with it. My mom the same way. She she she. She has the same vibe you know is just you know being positive just can only make situation stay steady and good for as long as you keep it good. That's what always starting my mind because you know not always is going to be good but if you strong enough mentally you can overcome whenever you don't win it is good. It's gonna be much better the you ever get down. I've never seen you dan. Oh i mean i don i don't i don't get down man i i don't understand it i go on. I don't believe in it. You know it's not the way of life you know you supposed to be happy enjoy for you know so you know. I want to bring that energy all around to people my family. My kids everybody in horses hearses feel whenever you feel some type of so you always gotta be positive energy on your horse because they negativities is no different in a cat a dog they know when something is not right with the would they owner. You make sure non understand Get and then your style of riding them and is that something you learned over the years or is that just a natural to me. It's your very much. Get a position but go forward. Oh no i look at it like this. If you're a good gate writer use it to your advantage. Stick to your position. One two three lot of horses win from way off the pace they wayne from off the pace a lot. But you never gonna see a harsh makeup that much ground coming from behind when one two three eight nine times out of ten data lots to horses finishing in the race to win it right. Sure you know you can let horses drop back. You feel like you've got the best horse and you sit in fifth or six but You know i feel like If i can get my horse breed the first quarter of a mile. And i'm already relaxing. I'm already in my position wide. Take it away from and this winter. I mean yeah obviously win in the fall acqueduct title and that had to be good feeling when you're first grade one on timber and take what's the what's it like to get on that kind of role that kind of momentum i mean It's gotta be a good feeling for jackie and then it kind of builds upon itself. I guess yes. It's it's all about the opportunity you know to help you know they gave me. It gave me the horses to to shine. And i feel like you know. I've been working up to this moment. So i know what i have to do whenever i get the opportunity. You know true timber. When in that race winning agree one twenty years later in my career. I mean you've probably. I probably never could get it early in my career. 'cause i was at smaller trikes building momentum to get to this point but man guys they feel so good to get it at this point like i don't know if i was going to feel that good earlier in my career to get it and wait this much longer to get it again. You know it just i. It feels so good man. I really do and to come back and win the title. I mean i went seven thousand parks. That's really important to me. And i lay down year. Round racing is really hard to maintain seven titles in one place because they got different writers. Different bug routers. Come in and they get hyphen. You gotta maintain the whole situation. But to get a title in your. I mean wow guys. I mean i'm old cajun barred from the weekend. I mean i'm a mud bug man. I'm dead before shufu. I represent my louise in a people to the fullest in just a scratch my head. I don't think it happened before. I'm holding it down. Man don dubuc Really this year. With the social unrest. With george floyd and the racial divide. I mean you came out and spoke about that. What what was that like for you when you want to black riders in the room and i mean is that something but i you know i think that was obviously upsetting to you and you kinda wanted to talk about. Yeah i feel. I feel Situation that happened with that guy was really. I opened into me and not just george is a lot of them before him after him. You know it's. I don't understand how people can still have hatred in their heart and win a new millennium. Two thousand twenty one. I mean we have. It blows my mind because you know. I never was raised that way. I didn't see color as anything. Besides the color in you know we all ate together. We all cook together. We all together in the end. You know we family. I don't see. I don't see how people just you know i. I can understand the grows but it has the we can't just keep feeding generations this over and over and they're gonna live it past we did. You can't keep doing that and it just bothered me you know. It just made me fight a little bit harder in my situation. You know and Just try to break my kid's future just because you know i have mixed kids and you know. Let them don't let that stop. You get in the way that you got two different color than other people you know and do you talk to your talk to your kids about that. I mean libya's your daughter yourself eleven. They they mama sit him down. We sat down. We explain it. I mean they love going to louisiana seeing they cajun cousins. they love it. They love it. Do they stand out out the province. Fifteen twenty. London nieces and nephews. Yes they got a different color but you know what when you look at them. They all plan together. They all enjoy each other. They know what it is. They don't let it like their lives. Don't let it affect they love. That's what i call them. That's a good message. And that's that's your he kinda take that as a role. I'm in your role model to them and role model to others that you know. Go go out there and play your tray with a positive attitude and Trying to make a positive difference. I guess we all have the same chance in life. People don't sit down to understand that in life. We all have a chance. If you wanna take that chance gender car moosh making Making the most of this chance. kendrick thanks. Thanks for the time This morning and For rooting for a year grade Great role model for everybody in the sport. Thank you my brother. In and one more thing before i leave peace love patient love. That's kendrick moosh peace and love. What a visit with kendrick car. Moosh my thanks. To sean clancy anti kendrick for making that segment possible. You'll hear it every week in the room. Would sean clancy a visit a one on one conversation with a writer in our sport in some really interesting stuff from the self described mud bug from louisiana kendrick karma fund guy and congrats. Him all the success. Right when i come back another brand new segment. This time you get the chance to be part of the show opening up the phone lines. The phone number to call is eight. Eight eight nine six six four seven seven six. That's eight eight eight nine six six. H r r n. I'll open up the phone lines. You weigh in anything you wanna talk about. If you want to talk about. Today's holy bull stakes. Wanna talk about the robert b lewis you on to talk about the eclipse awards from the other night. How about our question. Which three stakes races most likely to produce the kentucky derby winner today is at the robbi. Lewis is at the holy bull. Well if you want to weigh in on that you can do that too. It is all next. Eight eight eight nine six six. Four seven seven six lineup. Now i'm back in about two minutes. This is equal form on. Hr n. presented by health networks. Cbd for amazing relief of everyday aches and pains try health networks premium brand. Cbd justify a four time grade. One winner eclipse champion three-year-old horse of the year. And the only undefeated triple crown winner by sire of sires scat daddy justifies first bowls sold for up to six hundred thousand dollars at the recent november sales well his info mares were led by the three-time great one winning daughter of uncle bo fast for four point. Two million to spend through a farm justify has covered over eighty grade one winners or dams grade one winners in his first. Two years at ashford called the team had asked for today. Book your mayor while there are still seasons available. Adena springs stallion macho macho man. 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Here's the one survey hanging tough enough. Finding firm on just two and a half legs can probable global campaigns test. Be high the authentic who strides away in the keeneland sunset. John velazquez authentic has one too long. Readers got plastic highlights of those three grade ones for newly crowned authentic. Who's stances spendthrift. What a year he had last year. Of course champion three-year-old as well and Well-deserved portion of the year title. If you wanna call in right now and you wanna talk about the eclipse awards and you wanna talk about The robert louis. You wanna talk about the holy bowl. Let me know who you like in those races. All you have to do is dial eight. Eight eight nine six six four seven seven six. this is a brand new segment. I'm going to have every week on the show. So i understand some of you are thinking or wait a minute. We actually get to call into the equine forum. I thought i had to wait. 'til thursday nights in the brits net dot com colin show. Yeah you can do that too. But every week. I'm gonna give you the chance now to be part of the equine forum so eight eight eight nine six six four seven seven six. Give me a call. They say nobody likes to be i. Well somebody has to be i. I'll tell you what i'll do for the first three callers in the next fifteen minutes here. I'm going to send you an h. r. n. ball cap. So how about that. So just give producer. Lee your information when you call in and we'll make sure we get that out to you and basically your email address will work. And i can email you and get your address and we'll go from there. Eight eight nine six six four seven seven six. The first three callers get a officially licensed. Hr n. ball cap and we can talk about the robert. B lewis can talk about eclipse. we can talk about the sam houston racing festival. If you want coming up tomorrow or we can talk about The holy bull and by the way an update to that poll question which three-year-old stakes race today is most likely to produce kentucky derby winner The majority of us still leaning in the direction of the holy bowl forty nine percent of the vote coming in for the holy bull forty percent coming in for the robert. B lewis six percent for the sale and five percent for the kitten's joy which is not out of the ordinary. I kind of thought that might be the case. But i i still think the robert. B lewis is stronger. The two when you take a look at the to bob baffert horses number one speaker number one number eight spielberg who won. The los alemi does futurity last time. Got up by a nose to defeat the great one who knows a really good horse and then medina spirit. Who was second in the grade. Three sham last time out. That is he's got the one horse and he's got the outside horse in spielberg. That is a pretty good set of bookends. For bob baffert. Who has won the robert. B lewis on eight different occasions. And then hot rod charlie from the barnard doug o'neill who was second it odds of ninety four to one in the grade. One breeders cup. Juvenile hot rod charlie for trainer. Doug neil one of two horses that he has. He surprised everybody with that effort. In the breeders cup juvenile but today. He's a much shorter price. He's three to one on the morning line. It just seems to me. He also has wipe the slate by the way has doug o'neill and he's going to be with me at ten forty eastern time this morning. It just seems to me like the horses that are in the robert. B lewis at this point in their careers just appear to be more accomplished. They have proven more than the horses. And the holy bull. Now the question is which of the stakes races is most likely produce a kentucky derby winner. Will you may feel more upside for the horses that are in the holy bull obviously forty-nine percent of you do you feel there's more upside for those horses and it's it's hard to argue that there are some talented runners in there. We talked about sitting on go from the barnard trainer. Dale romans the favourite greatest honor for shooting. Mcgahey certainly seems to be going in the right direction and appears a horse that could make an impact prime factor. Who debuted with a monster win for todd. Pletcher one by nearly nine lancs. He's three to one on the morning line in their. Todd's other horse about look good winning by more than five lengths in his debut on december. Twenty six so give me a call. Eight eight eight nine six six four seven seven six. I three callers in the next twelve minutes or so. We're gonna come fast and furious an h. r. n. ball cap. And somebody who wants one is my good friend stuart morris who is on the line right. Now stu what's up brother. Hey man how you doing today. Good you getting back from ocala. I'm in south georgia right now. Driving home good man. What's on your mind brother. Well personally i want tell you. I think the new formats great and i'm really excited you guys. I think it's a really exciting future for this year. And i'm looking forward to this three hour show every saturday. Thank you man. Well i was gonna talk about the race in california the The one horse of Doug o'neill's was actually by some good friends of mine. Thoughts held and sean felt good people. half brother matola right. Yeah is that Is that the horse of a second. The breeders cup juvenile exactly right. Yeah and john have been bought a lot of good horses for a long time and that or a real pedigree and i think most excited to see if he can show about covering what skill form into that so you the last year and certainly a big performance from him today would make i think or clips award winner the clubhouse the division after that right. Yeah how does that make essential quality. Look if hot rod. Charlie comes back and wins this race. Today that yeah. That's what i'm saying. And i agree with you hundred. The west coast race looks like just produce a legitimate derby contender winter today. Just because there's more form there and it took a tough field with some guys who stroking some big deep water. Yeah yeah based on potential. I think a lot of people are thinking. Maybe the holy bull stakes of course. Don't you think stewart through always this bit of an east coast bias in our sport to where we're those horses seem to get a little more attention than the west coast horses others no doubt about it. I mean i think there. I just probably due to every there's more or less like east coast and the west coast but Yeah there is very much an east coast bias that believe that fair and Arabic thing is co sources. Keep showing up year after year and and raising the bar. So i think we probably should take more work than more important in these races on the west coast to me do but i just probably a fair statement just about human nature right. Yeah i think so too. I think you're right. Listen man. I appreciate the phone call and drive carefully on the way home and hopefully i'll catch up with you next week brother. We'll see actually take care. All right stuart morris sponsors segment in the first half of the program. Bright our industry star the week. That i've bring you for the past few years now And that's a a an incredible segment. Where i get to recognize an individual in the sport. That is doing some great things that maybe maybe you're not even familiar with that person. You know this week's guest That i got a chance to honor. David walters who picked up his fifteen hundred win at charlestown back on january thirteenth. He's a great story and there are so many great stories in our sport. Give me a call. Eight eight eight nine. Six four seven seven six Still plenty of time for you to get in. Got about ten minutes a yeah somewhere in there. Eight minutes left in this segment before we get to a commercial break again you give me a call will send you an hr and ball cap. But he's right about the california race. I i really believe that. If you're if you're voting in the poll question that's the race most likely to produce a kentucky derby winner just comparing them side by side right and i think because of the fact that so many of those horses have already proven to be greatest states caliber whereas in the holy bull outside of sitting on go who is a great three winner. Horses still have to prove that they belong at that level but it seems like most of our nation disagrees with me and they think the holy bull stakes is is the way to go in terms of the race most likely to produce a kentucky derby winner. Eight eight eight nine six six four seven seven six again this brand new segment. I get it. I get that it's going to be a little slow the kick things off and that's all well and good but you're going to be able to do this every single week with this new three hour format now and Right around this ten twenty eastern mark. You'll get a chance to share your thoughts on anything related to the sport of thoroughbred racing. It can be the stakes races. That are coming up on saturday afternoons or the weekend. It can be looking back on something that happened the previous week. You'll want one question that got a lot of play on our social media earlier. This week was quite simple. Do you have your derby horse picked out yet. Do you have your derby horse picked out if you want to call and let me know that gopher eight eight eight nine six six four seven seven six. Let's go back to the phone lines. Ralph in nashville is with me here on the equipment forum. Ralph good morning good morning Congrats on the new format. And already a great show Great interview with kendra there I just had a question about the The triple crown. You're talking about the races I was just curious to make sure is the triple crown format back to the traditional format Including the weeks between the races and Just thought on the What your thoughts on the future pools and That i think they only do one cy. Or future wager If they thought maybe they would increase that Congratulations and we'll keep listening. Yeah ralph appreciate the phone call and we'll make sure we get you one of the ball caps here. Yeah you know from every. And i was just talking about this this past week actually from everything that we're hearing it sounds like things will be back to normal. We know the derby is back to the first saturday in may Still waiting on pimlico to announce what they're going to do with the preakness stakes and of course belmont was adamant about keeping it in june last year. So can't see them moving off of their their june date so i would assume and haven't heard officially yet but i would assume that we're gonna see everything kind of back to normal. The question will be. Will there be fans allowed by the first saturday in may. I'm sure there will in some capacity. I know that the masters announced that they're going to welcome fans back to augusta this year for for that prestigious golf tournament. Beit a limited number of fans so that. That's one question that i have is. How racing is going to handle that. Obviously churchill downs is plenty big enough in pimlico and almost certainly big enough to welcome fans back if the states allow them to do so and hopefully we can get back to normal schedule so yes to answer your question. I do believe we're going to be back to the traditional derby preakness belmont scheduled that we've seen over the years. Yeah and in terms of the future wagers. Wouldn't it be neat to see another future wager on the sires added That's yields a different way to handicap. It a different way to handle you can handicap the horses but then you have to kind of look and say okay which sires are represented by the most runners number one and the most quality runners number two. So it's a it's a neat way to to handicap the kentucky derby from the breeding side of it and really do appreciate the call there and we'll move on to the next caller. That is aaron in kentucky aaron. Good morning mike miami. I got your brother. What's up. How welcome back. Maybe your show and you got a great format now. Thanks i'll be back in more often. Yeah appreciate it. It's the first time i've been able to catch this new year but or want to treat so anyway. Congratulations my keep up. The good work longtime listener. Just been away for a while. And i'm having i'm heading home dr bluegrass state from texas myself on the road Tell your poll question. Well be honest with you. Might not be contrary. But i don't think the derby winner is eating rice unless it has the bay shows horse and he's going to pass daylight or was but now unless my would be the holiday bowl just for the strength of the rice It's kinda toss out. About what s going on lane joe. O.'neil but that's just contrary editor okay. Yeah it's a great point erin. Do you have your derby horse picked out yet. I'm sorry i'll tell you again. Do you have a derby horse picked out yet. A horse that you have your eye on got eight to one on a center wildly and that's the only thing i'm leaning toward yet although it's a little early brad cox lowered with two of them right now seeing caddo river last week. Dan kinda like asked me that question again. I the march or something. But i enjoy the central quality. He's got it all and right cox just get into darby for his first time after the clips award and then as it was fan. Right now he'd be the favorite Despite whatever fabric so my opinion yep yep yeah. We'll aaron listen to appreciate the phone call. Thank you for coming back. Happy to have you back on board with the equine forum and call me every week really appreciate being on board this morning then just locked into them but like i say again two dollars for your new format and the three hours. It's great mike. Thanks man seeing. How careful Yeah aaron in kentucky. Look you're going to get a chance. This is going to become a segment where we're going to be coming fast and furious. Maybe even expanded a little bit if the volkov's continued to commend But this was the first go round. Thank you to stewart and to ralph into aaron for the giving me a phone call. We'll get caps out to each of those individuals and tune in next week. Same time right around this ten twenty ten twenty five mark. 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Just heard trevor denman with the call of the rubber be lewis when doug o'neill earned his very first win in that race with great hunter. That was back in two thousand seven. He came back again in two thousand twelve with. I'll have another. Who was we know when undo some pretty cool things including being of two kentucky derby winners for doug o'neill doug as women. Now he has. Two horses entered in the robert b. Lewis as he begins a quest for a third derby title today. Doug first of all good morning. My friend mike how you doing. Yeah everything's good brother Really happy to hear your voice and excited to talk about this. Robert b lewis and talk about some three year olds first of all. Let's start with the call. We just heard great hunter is. You're listening to that call and you hear the in great hunter. Some of the things that pop into your head. God how grateful. I am for on villaret him. I mean wouldn't be here without them and Great hunter was one of our early Horses of of talent and those are great memories and He was a great horse. Yeah he was pretty special. I know you're you're fond of the other horse. That won the robert b lewis to in two thousand twelve. A little horse by the name of. I'll have another. Yeah he That was really a shocker. He'd been training grade but he he was coming off a pretty long layoff and other pretty ambitious fox of bring him back in but man it really started the the role that the next Five and a half months or so brought us. It was what a cohorts and now. I'll have another back. Football unveils laughter. Their place in california. So it's cool. We got him back so very exciting. Yeah it's a special thing in. He of course gave you that first. Kentucky derby win back in two thousand twelve. What what's different being a two time. Derby winner now doug. What's different when you start down the road to the kentucky derby with these prep races as opposed. E- what's different now as opposed to win you but before you won that i won with. I'll have another and you were starting to go down this road. That's a good Good question i haven't really thought about it but You know probably You know prior to the. I'll have another year you know. Just we're just getting to be on the derby road and So didn't really know what to expect. Now having been down that road and getting lucky enough to to win a couple of times. I think now we know what to expect which is a bonus and And you know it's just Just try to Every day realize how blessed yard to be around the horse. That's good enough to compete at that level on good enough to talk about the you know making churchill downs and the first saturday in may so it just really exciting and You know it's fun with Like hot rod charlie. Today it's all a bunch of guys who've never been down that journey before the it'd be so cool if he stayed injury-free it can take us all there. It'd be a lotta fun. Yeah just stewart morris Called in in the previous collins segment our new colin segment that we launched this week and he mentioned that hot rod. Charlie was a pin hook. A- by bob and sean feld Who are of course. Very close friends of you in the family and You know pretty. Cool stuff with hot rod. Charlie some ties to to hr end into the history of doug. O'neill there. I know god be flipping burgers at one for june fell brother. Bob here it is guy and it wouldn't be good me but You know and then jude the one who gave me my first Shank to start walk in and then When i went on my own bob was kind enough to find me. Some owners early on so the felt family is Like my second family. And i completely forgot they had. They were very instrumental in in The pin hooking rod charlie so Makes even that much more special. He surprised a lot of people. In the breeders cup juvenile when he was second behind eventual juvenile champion essential quality at ninety four to one. Did he surprise you. You know honestly Yes but you know we brought them there because we always thought he had talent and actually the first three races he was odds on favourite and and ran sub par and we're scratching our head like what is going on and Lander immoral my main man might the brains of the outfit Mentioned putting blinkers on them and us. Twenty one the that they either going to turns on the dirt with the blinkers on like That was the missing link so That kinda led us thinking of the breeders cup and then we're outside looking in until the day before entries and i think dale romans had one Get sick or drop out. And that got us in the body of the field so Yeah we had a lot of things go away to get in there. And then he ran a heck of a race. That was pretty awesome. What did the past few months been like for hot rod charlie. Well you know it's a great group of guys Bill strauss and craig home and my nephew patrick. And his voice from browns football team and You know after that race was we celebrated as if we had one felt like winters and We hold up and said you know. Let's give them a couple of weeks of a whole lot of nothing which we did and so he Had a good little vacation and then we started picking up. The training and joel worked in two or three times. And he's like us and love lament so he he's coming in fresh and ready and hopefully we can pick up where we left off their phelan. Have you noticed anything different about him. As he gets ready for his three year old debut as opposed to what you saw during his juvenile campaign. You know Sometimes you to close that picture to really see the development but You know he's He's mature dude. I i think the It's a very talented talented curious cole. And the blinkers really made them. Focus in competition so You know. I think we're just we're just maturity in front of rice but again you everyday so it's hard to really see the big difference but just a classy dude. He's got that perfect combination of common relaxing. The stall and Very competitive on the race track. And that's that's generally good horses. Have that character those characteristics. The other horse. You'll saddle later today in the robert. B lewis is number seven. Wipe the slate who has a son of your two thousand sixteen kentucky. Derby winner nyquist. He broke his maiden impressively last time out on december twenty six now steps up the waters get a bit deeper. Tell me more about wipe the slate. Well yeah being by nyquist. Obviously family you know we. We've we've been Excited about each and every one of the nyquist that we've been lucky enough to have here. And he's no exception He's trained like a first round draft pick since day one He's a chestnut so he actually looks more like i'll have another and he does Nyquist but He's extremely talented. Colt you know he he. We liked him a lot going into his debut and he ran into life of good of baffert. Who kind of freaked that day but You know we came back. We added blinkers to him and he got a perfect track and attack kinda trip so if he can translate that Like you say going to turns winters in a lot of stuff going on for the first time today but He's got a lot of talent. Things goes way he could do some good stuff. I noticed by the way visiting with doug o'neill here on the horse racing radio network. I noticed that you've given wipe the slate to sprint races before you stretch them out. Today's mile and a sixteenth distance. You did the same thing with hot rod. Charlie giving him to sprints before he stretched out eventually Is that kind of a a philosophy and approach that you use with these young horses. You're getting them started. I mean you you. You'd like to but sometimes it's just timing and it's the communication you have with the the owner of the horse Just trying to get everyone on the same page You know once the horses signalling you. That he's ready to run. And you're at the mercy of of the conditioned book. What are they offer. What race are out there so A couple of sprints is a i think a good thing to go by You know 'cause once you go to turns forces have to relax. They've got a really breathe comfortably annette. I turn so they're going to be out of here by the second turn. So you know you want him to be a little bit mature and the paddock and oppose sprayed and see the gate a couple of times before you try to see turn rates because it does require some mature breathing and it It'll be interesting today. i think. Wipe the slate The the air underneath them and see how lax the to turn race. I think he's got the ability. One thing's for sure you're going to find out what you have with these two horses today because this is a salty group in the robert b lewis. It really is. I mean anytime you you're talking baffert. Who has unbelievable barn and he's so successful and You know try to get one ready for the big races so Yeah what medina spirit. There's no talent how good he is. Supposedly he's been working spielberg a little bit south charity winter. So those two looks lights out. you got the john sheriff's Parnelli i think you know. He's going to rebound from that last race. Where he kinda broke out a little bit lost a lot of chance to just start so it's not a huge field but very competitive field and anybody that runs a good race. Today you know has every right to thank you know. We're we're on the road. 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Part 2:Michael  Stidham, Richard Migliore

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Part 2:Michael Stidham, Richard Migliore

"The mayor about a half an hour. Marquette is gonna join us our three and scully and pop morale's so lots to do this morning and i'll keep slipping in little news did bits between visits For instance We won't be able to do it today but we'll certainly Probably start with. Probably start with dr all day tomorrow and i imagine shogo contribute tomorrow as well to pay tribute To doctor levin gary lavon at eighty three passed on saturday and one of the real one of the real big names in his generation of veterinary service if you haven't seen the tributes that You know started to pour in saturday evening and into yesterday young. You're you're going to see just the everybody lining up to pay tribute to doctor levin. And we'll do it appropriately tomorrow. And i think sugar is quoted in one of the the obits that i that i saw and For mass going to mention passing a scenario as well where word came from that scenario at nineteen and there isn't anybody that watched that inaugural american oaks. There wasn't blown away it. It's it was one of the more remarkable. Not just north american debuts or however you want to characterize that it watching anybody that watched that broadcast from hollywood. That day watched her warm up and basically run off. She's like she basically ran a race before they ever put her in the in the gate and then she proceeded to just want just amazing. And i. we'll find. I've got to find the vic. Staufer call I i'm sure it It did justice to that performance by scenario but she is produced. She's been a not just a wonderful race philly and mayor. She has been a tremendous producer in japan. And i'll let sit on wednesday. We'll let sid talk about her son's Because she's produced couple of stallions at least a couple of stallions so those were two passes. I wanted to mention and the rest of the news will slip in between visitors and rich. Migliori is standing by good morning. Good morning i completely forgot even though we texted last night and i'm just finishing the stalls in the morning. I'm gonna bring dogs up to the house. I talk to you come on let's go i'm got Had a busy already a busy morning. With andy buyer and jimmy bell just now From godolphin and know they were they were certainly owners of the weekend with the three stake wins and there was so much going on over the weekend. You doing america's day at the races and between the oakland coverage and everything in new york No shortage of significant performances fold in the gulfstream action. The big weekend. I really was great to see my girl back Mystic guidry's man. You want to talk about the worst three year old but really cool up. What a great performance from him Central quality he delivered greatest honors. The same was really tremendous weekend racing Really fortunate to be covering it and hold on one. Second steve of getting these dogs in house okay. We're good it's raining out to. yeah here too. Yeah but not really even listen at the heart of it. We're saying. I mean that's how we all gotten involved with the sport being fans and then blessed to be able to make a living a life out of it so Yeah it was fun covers races this weekend and we can. We can actually Let's step in new york Portion for a minute and mr baath just You just you just kinda smile when you watch him. Run he you know. He's like a throwback kind. Of course. I think he was so appropriately. One this time 'cause he's like in some respects. The modern era type of siamese shows off brings his lunch pail goes to work every single time. And you know the long relationship. I had with the test. Remarry brahmin and john kimmel And knowing the whole family having ridden the grandfather friendly can you know just incredible actually the the great grandmother anti spend right so I it's fun to get a big kick out of it and John had a good weekend. The first time i went to on yup and well and also there was he had a he had the maiden the maiden that one was mid card but then in the nightcap thought maybe i thought maybe that horse had a a a look. Electric youth the eleven. I thought you had been you know. Showed some hints. Some sibling sibling strength And ran okay. Ran a an even v. got an education Going three quarters but I in fact the should mention that was That was Bob valeri with The laura can disco bellamy road philly. Laura's bellamy that one wire to wire with manny. Yeah yeah man how. 'bout any like super aggressive all weekend. He was you know. Put everything either on the lead or right in the game out of the gate. Even mr you're on the best tours take-no-prisoners You know. I like handicapping and looking at things and figuring you're talking points how you're gonna present races You know john had made such a point of talking about mr broth. Not taking him out of his rhythm and i was thinking they might like. Let the horse inside of him. named escaping me. The one that dylan davis roads for brought actress go. Because john was going i just i like him to get his rhythm. We don't you know when we rush him. It seems like he he stops and then they blasted off right out of the gate so Before the race. I actually was thinking they let that horse alone. Because i well chasing the entire way But they didn't they didn't take any president. That's with the best horse. Don't mess around just kind of pull everybody into the race and bottom out you know. It focused on manny for a second and Because i i. I saw some people dumping all over him over the weekend That that somehow he he's You know he. He saw somebody suggests that You know when when everybody comes. Back from florida You know that Switching away from him somehow going to be a big powerful angle. I i. I don't i don't understand why you know what what he's doing that. would would raise ire of players. I i don't. I don't understand that either. I don't see that at all. I see a young kid. Who's riding hard aggressive. But i you know listen. All riders go through periods. You have times you just not riding as well as times. You know your your your confidence wane a little bit you. You tend to second guess and as a writer. You can't second guess because things happen so quickly you have to be decisive and the reason guys become indecisive is because you know. They've made a mistake and they feel like they're getting criticized. And like i go back to people say oh that guy's afraid to come through on the inside he's not afraid from a physical perspective to come through on the insides and i'm just talking in general terms here but that if he gets stopped or he has to check or he gets trapped that you know the the connections are gonna be down on him and years ago. It was even worse when you had all the you know metropolitan area papers writing synopsis of the races every day and you know john season and those guys would say oh you know me already got trapped on the inside and was the best person you get your coffee in the morning and the guy in the coffee shop would say what happened in the fourth racists. They let you go. Get your racing form at the candy store and the guy with what happened in the fourth racist. Are you hearing it from everybody. You know So it's win guys are worried about the repercussions of the decision. They make and the greatest gift the trainer can give a writer is. Hey you know like the sources have it. He may be you know outside a little more than inside. He may wait on horses when he hits the may in a little and then let the guy do his job you. You can't micromanage to the point where you're in a writer's head. He's going to make mistakes. Then but i don't see that man i think he's writing great You know i. I think there are several guys riding tremendous year this winter. I think that Trevor mccarthy and and hor vargas coming from maryland have been writing terrific trevor. You know he reminds me so much of his father and in some respects myself. Taller rider work hard at work work to keep his weight down but that kid wants it. I mean he. He's got the attitude the mindset of a champion. You know and when. I say that we touched on it last week with tony black when i call somebody a race driver. That's the for jackie. that's the best compliment. I can pay your a race writer because you're you're doing the extra you're going the extra mile. You're you're you're you know leaving no stone unturned to be the best you can be. You're not just out there. You know riding around in a circle. You're really honing your craft. And i see that with that kid. He's got the mindset of a champion and being a champion in striving to be leading. Rider is a very hard thing again. It's one thing to be a jockey. It's another thing to be race rider and because every single race you're putting more than one hundred percent into it and it's it's debilitating physically debilitating mentally and it's a lonely place because you're so focused on one thing that it's just not an easy lifestyle And i don't know if i'm even doing it justice what i'm saying but if you want to be great you've got to work harder than everybody else and i see a kid. That's willing to do that. I get a kick out of watching him And since you mentioned trevor And we should fold in For those that haven't seen Trevor and katy davis trying to garner support and signatures for having the the gaming commission Do something on an emergency basis or at least Initiate whatever it's going to take to Get that that nonsensical rule what am senseless. What a senseless rule and and ridiculous And you know. I like our reach stuff. Sometimes when people say you know nyerere's gotta change. It's not an ira rule state gaming commission rule. So it's has nothing to do with their hands are tied. But i'm it seems to me that that should be fixed and you know quickly not not something that they drag their feet on. You know people make a lot about You know. Brothers riding. Jose iran together and stuff I if you watch I read ride on fearless and he went after performer aggressively around the turn. It kinda kinda got. I run on him. Caught him I won't say napping but he performer had no momentum and put himself his brother in a difficult situation and a constable position Unless you have to watch that and go you know how hard they're trying to beat each other but that being said there's some as they live together in saratoga. Their brothers you would think then the rule would have to apply in a similar situation that way so you either just do away with it and because it's ridiculous i mean they take pleasure in beating each other And it has to hurt them because no matter what if you're coupled even if one is legitimately twenty two one and the other legitimately five to one. They're going to take more money than they should. And there are people that don't want the horses couple. Because maybe no no. I mean it. It's a it penalizes. You know penalizes players and it's just and it actually penalizes naira too because it reduces the betting interests i mean that part of it is you know the exactly no but the is going to be that you know you've got you've got a regulatory I think that their their hands are tied that they've got to do the normal process. Where a rule change introduction is offered and then there's a a a commentary period ninety days or whatever and you know there's a whole the whole procedural Element that's a. That's an editing this. It's ridiculous it's silly and listen. I'm not familiar with who's on the gaming commission You know. I know for years in new york state. Boxing commission You know had Floyd patterson and a former boxer on you know basically the commissioner I was used to be neighbors. With arthur marchetti senior One of the great referees fights refs of all time He did ali-frazier like he told me. The story about They had three referees on hold And he had to stay in. The city worked for chock full of nuts at the other carbon workout and Took a shower and then he got the call like you know an hour before that night fighting started at the garden like. Hey you got the tab for ali frazier and then hustled over to the garden. 'cause i guess back then they really keep it in the dark. They i guess not wanting to try to get to a raft for something but And he you know he would show me fight films. And i would he come to my house and i'd show him racing films and we talk about it and what gentleman they really class individual and he was amazed. He asked me how many times a year to the gaming or racing. Commissioner time convenient to look at You know raise tapes and stewards decisions. And and i said as far as i know i. I don't think they have formal meetings on. You know on any regular basis about that kind of stuff. And he was amazed at that he said four times a year. The state boxing commission gets together and there was. You know the judges scoring card was they thought atalaya. They would have a in question it if they thought ref didn't you know Adjudicate fight fairly or you know. Let things go on. That shouldn't went on. He was on the carpet and and ask. Why did you let this happen. Why did that happen. Why japan is this guy for that but not that guy and he said you know the amount of money that boxing brings. the state. New york is miniscule compared to the amount of money that racing brings into the state of new york and he couldn't believe that there was more oversight seemingly on boxing than racing. Now this this is. This is a blind switch for me. So i will. I will bypass much much conversation and again this my knowledge. I'm not doing all all. I just the the way in which the way in which these things are interpreted. And i've you know. I've i've brought ed martin on for this To discuss The the way in which You know the whether it's accreditation ever stewards whether it's the you know the way in which the rci the organization know we it. It's there's a lot of convoluted Elements in fact. I had on. I had that on about this before the right win. The came to a head when when it was first discovered and ed explained a procedural aspect. That's since i like kind of in a similar vein but something that's always kind of bothered me You know appeals years ago. Were you didn't appeal. you got you days. You took him. And you go back to ron turcotte. Not riding secretary up in canada in his last start I it just didn't happen. You didn't undermine the stewards it was very respectful thing And then it became fashionable to start appealing. A lot of guys you know work the system You know it's an idea that. When i wrote you work the system you you put them off to. It's more a more convenient for you. I to actually like to get suspended around christmas time. Because guys didn't get mad he not. I can't write a time. I mean you. Do you work the system and and as much as you get. You're going you're going to take it and i just think that you know even that in writers now by get mad at me but i don't care i'll say it. If a guy goes to appeal it should be dismissed out of hand. No we're not allowing your appeal and then you have to hire an attorney so it's gonna cost you money to put an injunction in to get the appeal and then here that appeal quickly within two weeks within a okay. You wanna appeal two thousand to get the attorney to file the appeal that was dismissed by the Not not three months. That's six months not not not a year later and believe me. Geisel stop appeal unless they absolutely believe. They were wrongly Suspending and most of the time guys deserve their suspensions And and on that vein. How does the guy right. You're your head and head for the lead at the eighth pole or sixteen. Paul and you switch your your stick to the left hand and you come out and you brush the source. You beat them in those they take you down and they give you three days. Another guy is four five wide going into the far turn. Everybody's still in hand. And he starts squeezing the field down so he's not four or five wide. He makes two or three guys check and get out of there. He gets three days. It's the same sentence for jaywalking as it is for assault and battery. You got one. Where guy is is in control of the situation and he makes the decision to squeeze guys in another way competitive in the moment brush foul. It's not dangerous one dangerous one time. I never understood that. It doesn't seem like they really fit the crime and the punishment i. I've never understood that. I i was going to save Conversation about the the state. D q the marquess. He's actually on our three. But i was going to have tony Talk about it on thursday. I don't know if you saw. Did you see the backstretch really i saw. I wouldn't wanna comment 'cause close when you get a chance when you get a chance. Go go watch it. I mean it's preposterous. And it's just you know incidental. You know situation that that absolutely had i mean if you're i can't even say if a foul fouls a foul we'll we'll let cassie frame and when you get a chance. I'm curious your thoughts. I'll definitely watch it. I you know like as a writer as a trainer and owner a somebody wagering the races. It just gets frustrating. When you see things happen. And i'll speak from rioters point of view like you know the years ago when i pulled rip the phone out of the wall in saratoga. Famous incident That was actually going to wednesday. And on monday i was on a philly fulfil leaves. I was in front about sixteen seventy yards. Iran and another study was running by me. And you'll see sometimes especially two year olds if they're more out towards the middle of the track rallying if they hit the front i never been able to figure out what it is and i've gone out there and i've walked and i've looked it's almost like they their vision their line of vision catches something and they'll tend to jump back to the lead and take a step in almost like they spotted something near the winner's circle in that direction and and again. I've never been able to figure out what it is. But marquee was on a and she was running by me. I was beat. I was going to be second and she did. She shakes her head. Kinda came up or years went up jump back there. Leslie ducked in and and broadsided me and then beat me length and a half so they put up the inquiry. I didn't claim south. And you know. I said yeah judge she. She bothered me as she was running by me. And they left it official. That was the right call. It was the best source one. I was going to be second. Then one of the stewarts came down to the jackson. After sydney we couldn't take that down the best source one. It didn't affect the outcome. That's judge that's the right. Call well on wednesday. I one on silver squire for john. Kimmel came from last brush. The horse is going by him because he was awkward changing to his right leap pulled off. That horse won by five lengths. That horse was second and they took me down. So you know. And that's when. I lost my mind. And i ripped the phone out of the wall and got a heavy. Fine for cursing out the stewards. And you know it wasn't one of my finer moments but it's the inconsistency that gets people if you know on a daily basis this will come down then believe me. Riders will rise for that long and not gruesome. But if you don't know and it's a gray area it actually creates a more dangerous environment varieties. Because i'm never quite sure how far this guy go. I'm never quite sure how far i can go. And you can't really trust with those boundaries are and that creates a more dangerous situation for riders and believe me the stuff with that of the gate. Oh well it was out of the gate. Yes sometimes i will just make a hard left or right that you can't avoid but you can still make an effort and it would be a lot cleaner if guys knew. They were definitely more responsible for what happened. In the guys are definitely more capable of keeping them straighter than they do. If i get shut off three or four times leaving the gate because guy who's out of the gate 'cause everybody leans on that now and it's not says a former writer. I know you can control it. Well when next time. I makes the left or or you know takes a step way go ahead. I'm the one getting bothered tom. Now i'm gonna bother everybody else and created a much more dangerous situation than should be. That's a that's appropriate added context ad. It's always difficult you know when when it's when it's occurring in places that That they don't typically look at and you know where there isn't. There isn't obvious issues on the pan. Shot then then you start getting into you and you're going to see what this you've also got a fairly obscure view you don't have a complete clearview when it comes to the head on so there there were there. Were some moving parts. We'll let we'll let cassie sound off. I think i think this day and age to. There's no reason not to have mammoth concise. Yeah i it's come on you know you can see The lunar rover on mars is clear as you could pitcher your right hand. That's funny that's funny. You say that. I saw this word. I got twitter. Somebody put up a picture Th there was a cut of a picture from mars and then there was a picture of a bank robbery and and the the the whoever it was put it up made that exact same point says the we can we can see we can see rock formations on mars. And then. here's your typical bank surveillance camera. You you it looks like pixels. You can barely looks like somebody with a hoodie. That's all you can tell this the twitter. I'll i'll find it. I'll fight for you. It's pretty funny. Came across a just like literally hours ago couple of. Let's talk a couple before. We wrap i mike. Sims going to join us and You guys were watching everything at At oaklawn and you know the what track obviously skews things slightly but it sure felt like you know considering that all the stake winners You know were fairly formed full kamari. I haven't mentioned her yet. She was terrific in that spring fever and she rosero had her out pretty much in the five path. all the way around and larry jones's philly as well. The dixie bell was good Yeah got earnings good. I'm definitely listen. Needed a great job for the whether they've had down there to have the truth in as good shape as they did Fairly remarkable and whether that they normally have to deal with as far as the snow and all that but the You know definitely had an outside for you. Wanted to be out towards the middle of the track and guys caught onto that pretty quick but I mean some sensational rations. You gotta be really you excited about what you saw. From central quality know jackie's warrior. You know. I think a little bit disappointing but i think maybe You know around one. Turn more sprinter type. We're going to see the best of him you know. We'll we'll make him the early book favorite for the allen. Jerkins in saratoga right. I thought that too. That was kind of my By feeling i said that. Yesterday was seth marrow. I get the wet track. i mean. there's no reason why There's no reason why it's one thing. If you're it's one thing if you're sitting behind horses and entertain mouthfuls of mud getting you know clubs hitting in the in the forehead but it's it's different you know when you're out there wing and He he this was. This was not a great Not a great return Well now but to be fair. Maybe he didn't handle the going. You just you kinda just get that feeling though that maybe As brilliant as he was a two year old flaunting that speed that you know maybe that's really what he and if anybody can figure out steve asmussen. The guy wins races He's going to be the all time leading trainer. Probably by the end of this year. You would think and You know it's done at the highest level too so and You know. I know we're gonna have to wrap up quick on a personal note. I i don't know if you saw much joseph Opened his own bloodstock agency. And yeah. he's down in florida right now because they have a bunch of two year olds that he bought for people over Last year watching them train actually as one of his own down there that he sent me the video that i honest him. Very excited about We were at ammonium The phasing sale last fall and he really liked this call pedigrees escaping me at the moment And he said that. I'm going to buy the source. And he goes. And i'm you know i'll i'll keep a good portion of them but i have you know guys. I went to school with college and stuff that you want a piece of a horse. And i'll you know so my friends a piece and i think he kept twenty five percent and i told him that. If you don't get that done i'll take half of them but he got it done then. It's a bunch of his buddies. That are all you know. They're all like thirty years old now and they're doing well And he sent me video this call. He'll like three year old and this is a young two year old and galloped on his own his head bowed focused. I mean i'm really really excited about that for him. But he flew in west palm beach and Watched fire train who He recommended rob mafia low. Buying and then he's won three in a row And some other horses they had palmettos to gabrielle out to dinner. Because she's down in west palm working with sources then he drove up till cala work there and then he was at gulfstream saturday. But i think he's back in ocala now so he's young. He had a a a wonderful experience. Working for west point You know he and terry finley. They parted on the of terms Joey you know some ambition wants to get his own thing going and he's got a nice client roster a lot of nice people that He'll be buying horses for at all. These two training sales excellent. And you know it's funny. I'm glad you flush this out. Because i did notice i thought i did notice that That his moniker on twitter changed mig bloodstock. And i i it. It sort of caught my eye for second. I didn't think a whole lot of it at the moment. But now i see that it's yeah then officially make bloodstock. So they're good for him. I didn't and i didn't. I didn't know that I didn't know that joey was a new year's new year's day baby. Yeah he He turns a year older with the reds every year it. Yeah it was really funny too because that was the one year in new york. You know since the advent of winter racing that if on tuesday new year's day and they just left it a dark day which is very unusual always race on new year's day. That year was a schedule dark day. They left it as dark day. So i woke up at like six in the morning and carmelo wasn't in bed and i. I went to the bathroom and she was there dressed ready shower. She'd been in labor since two in the morning. Didn't want to wake me up. And i'm like you know first time like you're panicking. We gotta go like and she's like no no i don't want to be you know one of these women that go to the hospital there for you know twenty four hours before you have your baby and finally about nine o'clock in the morning that the contractions are coming five minutes apart and i'm freaking out and we call. The doctor needs okay head over to the hospital nobis on the road. Nears morning we went down stewart avenue winthrop hospital. She had eleven fifteen in the morning seriously was like i was panicking and she was like coolest cucumber. I it was great. I love it joe. Even all the pedigrees with the 'cause that's carmella shrunk so you know my wife probably bets three times a year and she never loses and she has this pedigree line. that's become a bit more obscure but she follows it and anytime she finds a horse that has this In i'm not gonna do it justice but it is some sort of a a nick that she follows. She'll bet on that horse and and they win when you're in saratoga. There was a horse. Came in from suffolk conceit. This horse had that henry run running a maiden race shipped in from suffolk. He calls me. Hey go see that guy keeping it on their horse. And it's like charlie. Got jockey from suffolk named i don't know the guy on the go asteroid over some stuff down. She bet on the west got one hundred twenty five dollars off. That's great that's great. That's great so you know any of his pedigree queries you go through carmelo. So they're He's got a good assistant. I love it well. Best of luck To the joe. And i'm sure we'll catch up with them at a at a sale. I might Go down in a couple of weeks to ocalan. Broadcast the monday tuesday wednesday Considering that and i keep kind of wavering back and forth and we'll get them on. We'll we'll we'll talk about his approach and he's going to. I can just see from what he what he's written already that whether it's picking out horses or racing management As well an option being good hands with which. Oh very cool. Richie i appreciate it Always so much going on. but we'll We gotta gotham coming up on on saturday. And it's shaping up well in fact. I exchanged notes with andrew. Burns this morning To get a couple of confirmations but capital kane freedom fighter highly motivated wipe the slate Looks like sappy josephus sending one iron or awesome jerry smiley subotica. And there's a chance that car callahan throws in romans torian and then there's a couple of others That i i'm really looking for a couple of came back one turn mile. I think it really suits nice. It's going to be good. It's going to be a good Good field and and nice day to there's Should be nice card looking at the looking at the. Weather's gonna be cooperating. Nice the rest the week sweep. That'd be great. Well the we're certainly looking forward to glenn kozak peeling the the tarp off the grass. And then i look at Turf season can't come soon enough after after this winter kid. Chocolate agrees with you. We stole we stole it. We stole a main track win and that was fine. You know you're right when you're force winds over the winter the main count your blessings and you wait for you. Look forward to the grass coming back good deal and i look forward to seeing yahweh might even see donald ocala. Nice nice there you go. Richard mickley ori. Everybody follow rich. And america's day at the races back in regular rotation will stay here because mike stem is standing by and talk to jimmy bell earlier so so mike. I got jimmy on and So he cleared the deck On i don't have to add or if they ask tough questions about mystic guide. Okay all right. i'm curious i'm curious. What did you say. i haven't smoked today. Well he said that all all options are open. Yeah so yesterday. I didn't know if anything changed well and we'll get we'll get your thoughts obviously on it and you know what you might. You know what you think going to may. Dan is I a unique challenges. Or you know if it's just appropriate given what we saw from him on saturday and first and foremost in another twenty four hours forty eight hours since the race in a wet track not an ideal scenario and and really a loose track to came back. Fine. he came back grade He's actually traveling back. day To the fairgrounds. Nice but as of yesterday. He was dragging me around the shed road. Well we kind of talked about What a what a good story this is. You know especially for people that that are frustrated. Michael When it comes to the three year olds leaving the scene you know and and not staying on to become handicapped division horses and he was late starting. I mean we talked about him. After the jim dandy win He's pretty much never run a a bad race. Essentially the talk about his development from from your standpoint starting with You know the the early work back Last winter well this horse you. He came in to us a little bit lately. from godolphin Nothing major but just little immaturity issues that slowed down and then when we got him He obviously he came out running you because we ran him three quarters as i started his wife and he ran well there and then came right back to win by five but then you know as the year progressed and kobe started and then there were all these question marks about you know. Where do you go You now because the kentucky derby was going to be run in september you know now. Do we have a chance to make the derby. And you know all those options and temptations out there but so we were watching this horse and we just felt like you know he was maybe a step behind the horses that we're getting ready for the derby and we just felt like pressing on in detroit of make the derby in in derby perhaps was not necessarily think. Do so you know we were patient. Jimmy and dan fried. We're all onboard with just slowing down taking our time and letting the horse develop through the year and that's what we did and that that plan seems to obviously way came out as employer all that plan seems to have paid off very well. You know i. I mentioned i brought up music note with jimmy because as as wonderful as good gazette go sapper is as a stallion and what he brings to the party and in a lot of ways. He's not he's actually not dissimilar from a music note but you know music note was was pretty magical from seven eighths to a mile and an eighth and and even i think i think she i think she was. Second in a great was a music note in that terrific alabama against a proud spell as it happens pretty sure she was so up to a mile and a quarter and and he reminds me of her as much as as much as he does. Go sapper interesting. But we were stabled. In larry jones's barn at Oaklawn this week and larry was reminiscent on music. No and proud spell running against each other and and and bringing up music was a little bit of a sore subject. Larry because you know she was the one she was the one that he you know he was running against and i think music no did beat. You're on on occasion and But it was. It was interesting that we were larry. Warren he he was talking about there really was and i saw her a bunch of times. And it's funny Tina tina spent a good part of yesterday. Going through stacks and stacks of photographs. He was loading one of those frames. A pig star frame With with photographs and she was kept handing me some to go through and there happens to be We spent a good part of derby day that year. I'm gonna guess two thousand eight maybe was two thousand and eight and there's a couple of great pictures. Somebody took With our camera of tina and antena and me with Proud spell and she was. She was terrific. Gosh for brady jones. what what what. Were your thoughts. Going into saturday coming back and your jimmy said that you you were reporting to him that he was just doing everything. Perfect on the come back Preparing for the season debut. He he really was. And you know we never did After his Jockey club gold cup race. We never turned out. We just kind of down on and gave him a couple of weeks just walking and you know just slowly starting back with him but he never did leave the race track and that plan also worked out well because it wasn't like we were letting them down and having to bringing back so he just got a little freshening from from the weekly breezes and then once we started working again You know he just kept getting bigger and stronger and more mature and looking and we just you know it was like it was all coming together at the right time and we really really confident of the way he was going in and i even made the comment jimmy. This is probably better now than he's ever been since i've had So it was great way you go into the race. Then you know we all the rain and attract. Was you know a sloppy mess. To the point where they had to keep the attractors on track just kind of float drac and get as much water often again. I must say that. Oakland fantastic job to have a track in his good. You know the best shape it could be in considering the rain. we had And i did. I did go back on music. Nodes records see. I saw where she had handled You know wet tracks very well in her career. Gave me a little a little. Bit of confidence That mr guide would hopefully handle it too and the obviously did well and the way in which he dispatched and that was that was a group of solid Credentialed older horses and so a great way to kick off the four year old season and then to have that figure come back the way it did. one eight buyer so a new career high obviously and he starts to flirt. Michael with with rarified. Air these days You you start getting one ten buyers. I mean that's that's what you want From you know from your handicap horses. Yeah well through. Through my years of training you know over forty years. I've kind of watched this big horses. Put up those numbers and you know was always in awe of those kind of horses now. Have one that you know is doing similar to that in my arm is really a. It's just unbelievable. Says engine juxtapose the -tunities in your mind and i'm sure you've thought about it here. The last forty eight hours The chance to. Maybe you know win. A something like the dubai world cup which could present itself Or you know staying the course and focusing on a domestic campaign this year That that wouldn't involve a international travel. And some of the things that you know that the perils that includes some gut reactions. You know certainly The dubai world cup. Is you know an amazing race. And the best source. That i've ever run have gone over there and run in that race in and want it so to to even be considered to go over there is is flattering We you know it's gonna be a decision that's going to be made as group. You know jimmy bell. Dan pride you know Shaykh muhammad. i'm sure it will be involved in the decision so It's just something that we're going to really talk about. We're going to discuss our options if we don't go and then if we do go and And and like. I say all be decided in the next couple of days and then and it is a it is a really good problem i i guess i either way either way. I mean coming off of a performance like this. It does have to give you confidence about you. Know the potential to go over and be successful so and not just be successful but I mean he'd be ov that effort he's he's one of the. He's one of the favorites. Yeah now it's Like i say it's an amazing position to be in and will say we'll decide in the next few days which direction we're going to go well We'll wait for that and we'll we'll see we'll way way those options And in the meantime max field For the barn itself for you know in the care. brendon walsh. he's gonna go try In california at The big cap but mr guide super impressive. Lewis sayas with a big day and coming out. we'll see whatever whatever happens next It was a great day overall for godolphin. that's why we call jimmy because central quality and antoinette. As well and you know we talked a lot quite a quite a bit of the barn Sort of A little bit of a barn with jimmy michael and you've actually got The music note three year old is well back in new orleans. Talk about gershwin off the maiden win. Yeah well gershwin. He's another one that we had some little setbacks with him slowed us down but now he's he's in deer and You know i start. He kind of caught us off guard. We spread it in because we we really didn't have a good feel for what his best surface in distance. Who's going to be so. We could sprinted him to get a race into him. Let him learn a little something he he broke out of the gate. And you know actually shocked best by being on the lead. We didn't think he was quick enough to be burning and he and he showed that first time out and then it was a little bit lost out on the league got caught way and only got. I don't know and a half something like that. And so often that show and that kind of speed rather than going long. I supported him back. And you know he set Talking spot and then closed and and finished up really well so the plan with him is to run them in a one x allowance at fairgrounds going mile sixteenths on the dirt his next start and And see what you were kind of puts in around. Germs interested very very talented cold. Nice well. I suppose You know another got a seventy s seventy nine buyer breaking the maiden and If i if he takes a step forward. I i suppose you'd have to consider taking the swing somewhere right with the blue or something A yes he if he handles the to germs. Well i think he will and You know runs kind of numbers that makes him competitive. In in one of the you know derby perhaps will be looking at a few different options absolutely excellent. Well speaking of which you've got one lined up for the louisiana derby just a few weeks away now and talk about proxy coming out of the out of the risen star. I'll tell you what proxy is each one that has always been a little bit immature mentally You know we could see in his. Two allowance wins Where it broke his maiden in one the one he was kind of a horses doing the little drifting through the stretching out I didn't wanna put blinkers on him. after bathing win off of a win so i felt like you know what. Let's let's let him learn on his own. Let's not closing up yet. Let's see if you'll bill to straighten himself and when we ran in back in the in the in the lacob and he was second In the in the You i still felt like you know with. Let this horse develop. Give him a chance to develop granted star and again Johnny velazquez who was riding in for the first time. You came back nieces. Mike he goes. I can't explain what happened. Passing half harmful. He said third in a beautiful position and the or she dropped a bit like like he was not interested in and i had to kind of give reminders. Get after a little bit and he said when i did that. He kicked back into gear and he was closing all the way through stretch. Be second in that race so based on that based on the drifting in the allowance races. We felt like okay. Now we've got to take a step forward within as far as putting the blinkers on him and see. If we can't get in to run a little more consistent say you know you know in contention through the whole race and run straighter and we working in blinkers the other morning. And it was very impressive. He worked half and forty seven sat off another horse and came came to the horse through stretching out that trump. So i felt like i work with playmakers was very positive and we'll beat them to run them in louisiana derby with microsoft excellent. Well take what things Haven't even gotten to a couple of other personal favorites and can tell things are going awfully nice for team steadham Let's ask about Couple pixel tried them in the pegasus. And i see that he worked yesterday. What's next for him. Well we're looking at the mervyn nunez that runs on march twentieth at fairgrounds. It's a mile and an eight on the turf degrade to and you know. We just you given him a little breather since the pegasus training really well and i think he'll fit beautifully in that race on a mile and eight so the planned march twenty nine pixel late for them you knees and one that Sure i don't even know where things stand is. Princess grace She she okay. Great is back in training. We just gave her a little freshening. We gave her Sixty days in ocala. She's back at champa with my assistant. There ben been traffic and She actually worked Latte over the weekend and she's getting her ready for spring and summer campaign And we're excited about getting her back. You know good all right Because i wasn't sure if she you know she had her what her status was nice. Mike why gotcha. I gonna ask a more More vexing question You spend plenty of time in chicago and your thoughts on on what it looks like a very difficult situation ahead Regarding arlington that. That situation is one of the disappointing. And things. Sad situations that i've been involved in in my entire career You know it's it's just. It's a shame that churchill downs And i don't want to you know be saying too many things out of line but the shame the churchill downs has that little respect for racing To be arlington park is like what would be considered a national monument for racing and for them to tear it. Down is like caring down. You know mount rushmore. You know for us in racing. It's it's not right It's not right for the horse in illinois is not right for the tradition that Arlington has four. I i don't know how many years eighty years or more the top forces that race there and for it to just be you know that beautiful structure that mr dodger wa bill there to be just ripped down and I i just can't say enough about how disappointed i am in churchill down so i knew having a visit with you i had to bring up chicago You know it's a big part of your your life the family's life and and your career and i knew you'd wanna address it. Yeah we had many many summers there. One many many of the big races and You know it's always. It was always just a a place that we look forward to going to. In summer the surface the turf course was state of the art You know multiple lanes of of turf racing they could you always were running on a on a beautifully manicured turf course and and then you know even the synthetic track another were. A lot of people didn't like it synthetic but we love training our young horses on the etiquette it was a safer surface to keep them sound and get them to the races so again just more disappointment Than it will be any more mike everybody. You can follow mike on twitter stadium racing and a very nice. I didn't even probably another four five horses. I could bring up but Between mystic guides splashy and flashy return to action proxy coming up gershwin. Princess grace pixel eight and a lot more michael evacuees so much and good luck no matter what the decision is and we'll see you potentially in new orleans but Along the way so that was great. Thanks so much for having me on always enjoyed being on your show. Always love avenue mike. Everybody and mystic. I'd really announced himself For the handicap side of things. Let's take the break here. 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Equine Forum - June 26th 2021

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Equine Forum - June 26th 2021

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse racing radio network and those consult look for the purpose must have been checking out closing. Does rachel she. Billy us squad. Welcome to the equine forum. The second full. They've opened up a five six lead with one furlong to run. They've let the field really. American freedom then gone runner or incur. Now here's mike peta. Hello again everyone. Good morning and welcome to the show. That launched this network the equine form right here on the horse racing radio network mike pence baron. The backstretch happy to have you in the saddle with me for the next three hours. Right up until eleven. Am eastern never too early for a derby countdown. Is it and i know. I haven't done one a very long time. While since the first saturday in may so here we go three hundred sixteen days nine hours forty three minutes and twenty seconds until the twenty twenty to run for the roses. But that certainly isn't stopping the folks at churchill downs from rolling out the red carpet one more time on this final day of their spring. Meet race here in the commonwealth will to ellis park tomorrow but churchill is going out with a bang later today seven stakes races including two breeders cup winning. You're in events. The grade one floor lee for the distaff division. And the great to stephen foster for the breeders cup classic. Now you go ahead and throw in some promising youngsters in the debutante and the great three bashford manor along with a mile and a sixteenth turf race named for hall of famer wise. Dan and you really do have the makings for one. Heck of a day of thoroughbred racing not to mention the fact by the way that the floor lee and the stephen foster have attracted the potential leaders in their respective divisions in that could be argued but they've attracted to good ones with lotrowska showing up on the floor. Lee in mansfield. Returning in the stephen foster godolphin president and racing manager. Jimmy bell is going to kick off today's show with me at eight fifteen eastern. He's gonna talk about max field and he'll provide an update on their belmont stakes winner. Essential quality looking forward to that visit at eight fifteen churchill downs director communications darren rogers at eight thirty five to time. Stephen foster winning trainer dallas stewart will be with me in the third hour of the program. Ten twenty five eastern and at ten forty. I'll take you down the road to the breeders cup with the truce kaz trainer fausto gutierrez the native of mexico opened his us operation in two thousand nineteen and now has one of the top mayors in training. Pretty cool story. He'll be here final segment of the show road to the breeders cup ten forty eastern time. This is also by the way at unsung heroes week. And i think you are really really going to enjoy this week. Segment coming up in the second hour of the program right around nine twenty. I'm gonna welcome in churchill. Downs keeneland clerk scales heavier torres. He has had that job for many many years and much like every unsung hero. I've had on the show. He does a job that is critical to the success of our sport. And it's the job you may not even know exists. I'm even going to ask him to share some stories about the jockeys who are the biggest pranksters jackson room so it should be a really fun segment again. That's coming up right around nine twenty eastern time poll question for this morning if your goal is to win a breeders cup race in november. Which horse would you rather have right now. The true ska. Or max 'field both horses are going to be heavy favorites for today's races at churchill in in their respective races the floor daily. And of course. The stephen foster. They're both four to five on the morning line. So if your goal is to win a breeders cup race in november which horse would you rather have right now. Go to at h. R. twitter horse racing radio network on facebook to let me know your thoughts if you don't do social media email me. Mike horse racing radio dot net. And i'll try to pass on the results as we move throughout the program this morning. Kind of tough call really. When you compare the two side by side in lotrowska you get a five year old mare. Who appears to who appear. Certainly to be getting better with age right. She comes into today's florida lee. Having won back to grade one races and she's a head away from being undefeated this year. Her only loss coming at the hands of last year's kentucky oaks winner. She dares the devil in the grade two area back in march. Her consistency is really nothing new. When you look at a record though she's won. Fourteen of nineteen career starts and she has the kind of early speed and staying power which makes her a very very dangerous horse. Max field on the other hand well first of all. He no longer has to deal with the expectations of equalling cigar ores in yada in terms of a consecutive win streak. He was a long way from realistically throwing his hat into that ring but he did begin his career. Perfect five for five before finally tasting defeat in the grade santa anita handicap back in march. Max field is now six or seven lifetime and rebounded beautifully with a very professional win. The grey to alysheba on the kentucky oaks undercard. He's not a speedster like lotrowska but he's very adaptable. He's proven he can win. From stocking position or coming from further back so from a talent and a consistency comparison. I think it's kind of a push. What about the trainers loose trainer. This is where it of starts to separate a little bit lotrowska trainer. Fausto gutierrez has handled a total of fifty two winners since moving to the united states from mexico and twenty nine nineteen overall. He's winning at a twelve point. One percent clip brendon walsh. The trainer amax field has won three hundred eighty three races and wins with about fifteen point six percent of his starters. Lotrowska is the only greatest stakes winner. Gutierrez has trained. If you don't count epifanio who won the grade. One eight grade one in mexico in two thousand twelve walsh's settled twenty five greatest stakes winners advantage. Brennan walsh on the ownership side. Max field is owned by shaykh muhammed's godolphin winners of countless top level. races around the globe. Lotrowska is owned by herman. Laura's saint george stable who is owned a total of from what i could see one graded stakes winner here in the united states. The aforementioned lotrowska but saint george stable can crow about one thing. The shake mohammad cannot lereah campaign a triple crown winner in mexico but still the triple crown winner who can pull off the feat. But even with that i think you have to say advantage godolphin on the ownership side when you're comparing the two. So where does that leave us in regards to. Today's poll question. If your goal is to win the breeders cup race in november which horse would you rather have right now. The true ska or max field. I think you lean a little more toward max field and this might be the deciding factor. Take a look at the leaders. In their respective divisions in the older dirt male division. Max deal will have to deal with another godolphin owned horse and mystic guide winner the dubai world cup. We may see him coming up in the suburban next week at belmont. He'll have to deal with silver state. Impressive winner of the met mile. He's currently on what a six race win. Streak is silver state but other than mystic guidance. Happy savers out. There charlatans out there by my standards is out there. Knicks go certainly formidable but other than mystic guide. If you're talking about a race like the breeders cup classic. Let's say they both go to the breeders cup classic mex- field stacks up with everybody else and who knows could stack up a mystic guide. Pretty well so that. That's the sticking point for him. How about the older well. And then don't forget about essential quality by the way who's gonna you know. These three year olds essential quality. Manda loon the horses. We became familiar with throughout the triple crown. I think essential quality is probably the best of the bunch all due respect a man but he'll have to deal with him too. But i think max fields sitting in a pretty good spot right now in terms of the older dirt females. Well lotrowska would have to deal with monoploy girl. She's currently on the sidelines. Let's say she comes back and we know that she can come back in a big way. Let's say monoploy girl does come back. Lotrowska has to deal with her. If she doesn't come back. Loose path is a bit easier. She'll have swiss skydiver to deal with. Who missed the tips with the fever. She'll have demean. Who knows good. Sprinting is she. Can't you remove the truce could going longer distances and race. Like the breeders cup distaff. And then you're down to the horse that beat lotrowska this year. She dares the devil as time goes by bonnie south all horses. That i think the truce go on her day can handle so again when you start looking at the the difference in the competition i think the edge there has to go to lotrowska. I don't know it depends. It depends on if monoploy girl gets healthy and gets back on top of her game then. The edge goes squarely field because bottom girls the beast. She's just that good. And and i think she beats lotrowska on the square as good as the truth. Is i think if it was a race like the breeders cup distaff. I think i have to give the edge to monoploy girl just because she really is that and we know that she can bounce back from adversity like she is done in the past so it's an interesting poll question this morning very interesting. Poll question if you're trying to win a breeders cup race in november which works with you rather have lotrowska or max 'field. I don't know which way the votes are going to go on this one. This could go either way. I think there's going to be people on both sides of the fence here. My guess is at mac fields. Probably going to get the edge but going to be interesting you know i talk about monoploy girl being able to beat the true san the square while she couldn't do it in the apple blossom starts back the truce gutter by a knows that day. It was one hell of a horse race. But i think i still give the edge tomato girl in a rematch. All right again very busy. Show going to talk with jimmy bell. The president and racing manager we could dolphin. 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My name is shawn benjamin garcia to ovation radio listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. Top makes your wallet back to the site. The central trump do exist. Welcome back to equine forum on h. r. n. mike pence. Burn the back. Stretch with you on this saturday morning. Very very busy program. Three hours Still two hours. In what forty five minutes or so left to go. Take you all the way up until eleven. Am eastern and a lot of things to get to including a look back at that huge win by essential quality in the belmont stakes gonna be joined shortly by jimmy. Bell who is the president and racing manager of godolphin the owners of essential quality. They also are the owners of max. 'field who is the four to five morning line favorite in the afternoons stephen foster at churchill downs and oh by the way they are the owners of dubai world cup winner mystic guide. You don't the year that godolphin had last year was well. It was brilliant. It was so brilliant. Were voted the eclipse award. Winning outstanding owners of twenty twenty to see the position that they're in sitting here on june twenty-sixth of twenty twenty one. I mean come on think. Think about this. We get to the breeders cup classic in november at del mar and by the way we'll be there. Is your exclusive radio home again. This year the only place. You'll hear the breeders. Cup is with us here on the horse racing radio network coast to coast. Worldwide shameless plug. But you get to the breeders cup classic in november. Is it possible. I know it's possible but is it likely if all three of those horses mystic guide max 'field essential quality. They all stay healthy. The all come into the classic in good fashion. Let's say they'll go to the classic and not a race like the dirt mile. Let's say they'll go to classic. Could we be looking at a good dolphin. Trifecta in the breeders cup classic. It's certainly plausible. When you take a look at those three horses music to the ears of jimmy bell he would love nothing. More than to be able to tell sheikh mohammed. Hey we just had the tri factor. One two three in the breeders cup classic with me now here on the horse racing radio network jimmy. Good morning good morning. How are you doing good. Did that sound to you. Godolphin trifecta in the breeders cup classic. Wow did you did you Did you figure out first. Second third. But i don't know if i'm gonna touch that one i you know. I'm a huge essential quality fan right. I love a central quality. I love max fields story and you can't fault. Missed a guide for anything that he's done so i don't know how you separate the three well. They're probably going to have to figure out how to do it themselves. Because i don't think we're smart enough to figure it out from handicapping but the good news is that's a. That's one of the greatest problems you'll ever have to deal with the have Free talented cults. More excitingly in in three different barnes with three different opportunities so Very grateful for for all. That's kinda come that way. We haven't had a chance to talk on air sense that belmont stakes victory by central quality. You know here's a horse jimmy. He ends up the beaten favourite in the kentucky derby. I thought he was a cinch to win that race. He had a bit of a troubled trip if you will then he comes back five weeks later and proves that he is legit and improves. How good he is winning the belmont. Take me back to that that saturday afternoon. And just share your thoughts you think about it. Well you know fairness to quality. He's never had a bad race. He's had some unfortunate Trips but he's he's shown up every single one of them so as you well know is certainly in the derby of all races where it is at mile and a quarter where it is at twenty horsfield not only do you have to have the best horse but you gotta have some luck involved too. You know would you've seen a different trip worked out probably so but that's racing and that's the way it goes you take that and you move on and i think that really you know our feeling was going into belmont was just another opportunity. And that's really way we've viewed it. And i think he showed up on the right day and and showed His ability not only in class but his stamina as well and Take my hat off. I mean that was neat eater and you can tell by the way they drew off from the field that that was really throwdown. Just a link to the stretch. Very exciting to very very nice colts and You know just essential central qualities seems to have that will to win and You know louis fifteen so well and has that confidence in him and it was a race to the wire and you know we. We got lucky. We've got to turn the tables as far as Finding their way to wear circle. I know that you and my man darlie. Dan pride were ultra pumped up the whole team at darling. Godolphin was fired up for that win and rightfully so. What was the conversation like with shaykh. Muhammad after the race. Well i think it was really. I didn't get to speak to him personally. Just just you know just got got the thumbs up in the excitement of it all in as you well know that was probably a big day for godolphin near nationally as you can imagine. They ran won three and english. Darby that day charlie appleby sent over to phillies to run the just a game a great one For phillies on the grass ran one to there. And then you know just finish it off with essential qualities Exciting win in the belmont. That's really just very very reflective of of Shape mahama's breeding program and his enthusiasm for the international stage. And it. just sort of encapsulates all that all the good things that go on from the breeding to the way these horse race or the way their campaigned and also to shake mohammed. His his True excitement and as i said passion for a competing on the international stages and every now and then it goes right. Which certainly was that sarah. What's the plan with essential quality for the second half of the season. Second half truthfully the major objective is. I think you might. Well agree as the travers is a as a signature race for three year olds at midsummer derby and it's rightfully so back at the mouth and a quarter. It gives these Three year old colts our chance to recover that they've been on a pretty Tiring and difficult Derby trail if you will and You know that's that's probably the circle on the on the counter for essential quality. And i had easy work last week in churchill. Work again this weekend. And then i think. Brad's plans shipping. Sara togo with an idea. Probably the jim dandy and with the main focus being the traversed visiting with godolphin president and racing manager jimmy bell here on the horse racing radio network. Excuse me jimmy. Let's talk about before. We get to max field in today's stephen foster. Let's talk about mystic guide for a minute. Ultra impressive winner. The dubai world cup. Will we see him. What next week in. The suburban is that where he's going to that yes. That's exactly right. You know looking forward to it. He's we wanted to give them a longer vacation. Then he wanted to take which is usually not not the case for people or horses but he was ready to get back to work a lot sooner than mike wanting to after his trip to dubai back and Looking very forward to this opportunity and in the suburban to get back on the racing trail if you will and You know his his race out and oaklawn You know really sort of served notice that that transition from three to four was pretty dramatic and then obviously that was underscored his again. In fatty win over with the new world cup And you know trying to get that time. That's not an easy trip over or back to get back in racing Condition so. Mike feels very confident as far as his time off in tom. Back on to be ready for the suburban. You certain it'd be a big test and ghost see if we can can't start the second year off Starting there and then he tried to punch your ticket to the breeders cup a couple of contenders on the saturday program at churchill downs. Max 'field as i mentioned going in the stephen foster you have antoinette in the floor delete both of those winning your ends for the respected divisions. Let's start with antoinette for a minute. Gimme the update on her well. The update is four. Lee came up a lot tougher than we. Were hoping that that would be the update as you can see a little bit of a small extremely competitive sealed. The truce go you know coming. Run back quickly. But obviously showing she's grade one class and quality The interesting thing about anthony. Aetna billy feels and rightfully so is that she's probably equally effective on the dirt. She is on the grass and so we were unfortunately had to scratch out of the stake up on belmont data turf got a little too soggy for her and most she and michelin had to scratch out of that. And it kind of makes you sorta redirecting looking around differently and so Leo looking back to a billy said listen. You know there's still. He's been as effective On the dirt and no we we sort of looked at the florida lee and and unfortunately there are some other pretty strong start looking at the same way. so i think we're in deep there and You know let's just hope for the best but there's some obviously small but very very quality feel there. The rest of the horses and the competition are in deep in the stephen foster. And that's because of the godolphin color. Max 'field What this horse. Six seven lifetime. He's overcome all kinds of adversity. Jimmy we've talked about him in the show many many times. He's as tough as they come and now he tries to put it all together. One more time in the stephen foster. What are you seeing from him. Since that big win in the alley sheba. Well i think. I think really what we what we've seen is the turnaround in him mentally toughness wise or his trip out to california and the sandy the handicapped. Where he you know he got a length and a half and was third but more importantly you'll brennan came back jimmy. I think this you know. Nobody wants to lose. Especially your unbeaten streak. But i think there's probably Made him grow up quite a bit. He says i've absolutely seen a change in mentally Not an aggressive manner but in toughness mannarino in sort of a race fight ready manner and i you probably saw that in the alysheba that you know he really was ready to Pounce when asked andrew off very impressively and quite honestly he's he's trained very very well. Since theology of looking very forward to the stephen foster. Because you know a little unfortunate in wasn't feminist thing it just it happens to these cults. He had a little chip here. He that'll this any other. You've got to start and stop a two year old and three year old campaign and the whole hoping idea was to see if we couldn't get a full body worked for him to show you know that he is a very sound very talented very versatile cult. In you know here we are into our forth or so racist season in in looking like he's going to have a solid summer and fall to come so this is a big race to add onto what he's been able to put together and Looking forward to but but Brennan could not be any more excited running in Holding on for tomorrow or today. That's really interesting that the mental aspect of of max field and and almost refocus. It's almost like an athlete or a team. Jimmy that's on a big win streak and they get upset and they lose a game they get beaten an event and it kinda refocusing. I didn't know that the horses were like that too. That could give me focused again. I think so. And i think it was a great analogy. You know He certainly wasn't look past that race. It was amount of quarter of the first time shipping across country. You know all those elements that if you're going to be at that. Top f sean. You've gotta be able you know that's part of performing at that level And and i think that It showed brennan that you know there were some improvement to come from him physically. He's always continued to impress. But what he said he saw. I really see a different looking. His outweighs going about it and he felt like he saw the first glimpse of that in the alley sheba. So you know. We're we're looking in hoping to see that that that element doesn't continue but You know the feeling in the camp going in is that that it is. Yeah maybe the horses in california. Just kinda. Poke the bear Woke up the sleeping giant. If you will. We'll see if max continues that momentum later today in the stephen foster jimmy bell can't thank you enough for spending a little time. Thanks for the updates. All the best going forward and keep up the wonderful work godolphin. We're very very grateful. I'm very pleased and You know let's hope it continue. Keep it rolling my friend. Okay thank you so much appreciate chatting with you all the time you know that. Good luck jimmy. Jimmy bell here on the horse racing radio network. Just fantastic insight. I mean he has done such an amazing job and not just. Jimmy has a team surrounding him but Really he's the man steering the ship there for godolphin and has really done a tremendous job and they are loaded. You could really make case that they're staying there. With a breeder's cup classic tribeca in their back pocket right now but everybody has to get there. And jimmy's question. Back to me was great. Can you separate them. Who wins it. Can you put them in order. One two three. I don't know if i can not right now. I mean. I guess mystic guide probably the most accomplished. But i don't know max field pretty good too and and now you've got a classic winner in central quality so wonderful stuff. My thanks to jimmy. For taking the time here this morning when i come back after your lexus legends of the turf. All talk about the entire stephen foster program with churchill director of communications darren. Rogers still come. You're going to hear from two time. Stephen foster winning trainer dallas stewart and faust gutierrez who will settle the true scott in today's ford elite. That's all ahead right after your lexus. Legends of the turf. Brought to you every saturday at this time by the wonderful folks at of lexington there have been performances by horses on the racetrack that bear more than considerable note and there have been horses of the same milk over a period of time. 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There's one for a long to go feel the fully extended on the front end visitors running hard but it's still second roadster trying to hang onto third trustee scene but nobody catches mex field. Cook lied under the wire. The three winner over visitin second chess chief solomon or roadster. Welcome back to the boreham. Mike pinup baron and the back stretch with you on this saturday morning. That call you just heard courtesy of churchill announcer travis stone the alysheba max 'field cruising to an easy victory on the kentucky oaks undercard. He's back in action. Later today in the stephen foster. Which of course is a wind in your end for the breeders cup classic division. He is the fortified morning. line favorite. You heard my interview with godolphin president and racing manager jimmy bell in the previous segment. They say that. Mac 'field has turned the corner mentally since his first career and only career defeat in the santa anita handicap back in march. And if that is the case that is bad news for the competition later today joined now by darren. Rogers who is the director of communications at churchill. Darren good morning. Good morning mike Doing very well. You know. I said this at the top of the show that churchill is going out with a bang with this closing day car. This is fantastic man. What a program. Yeah we really are. It's been a wonderful spring meet. You know it was so refreshing to welcome back the fans after you know the past year that we've all endured and that you know they're the heartbeat of the game and it was. It was just great to see him back in and they came out in droves. They sought responded to our product throughout the spring. Meet and You know to to finish it with a twelve race program. Today that features you know seven stakes cap by the stephen foster It's the perfect way to go out. Go out on top. Yeah go out on top indeed We'll talk about today's program but let's start by looking back on the meat. That was if you will. I think they say the masters is a tradition unlike any other. I think you could say that. This year's kentucky derby is one that is unlike any other at least to this point anyway. Yeah absolutely you know at the time you know well. First of all it was it was it was strange. Capping The crowd but it beat having no fans you know like we did in twenty twenty five september There there was an event like any up but You know they have the fifty one thousand fans on hand We had good weather. It was such a great positive by and really it was an overall tremendous week and you know obviously but dina spirit cross the wire. I about a week later The game was kind of turned upside down with when word leaked out from the camp that the or tested positive And so you know. We fully expect that You know from a legal standpoint. This is probably gonna continue on for for a while now and I don't think it will reach any true resolution. But know the i can't i can't Express you know enough about what a great job. Then hoffman and his his team of individuals in the churchill. Downs racing office. What a great job. They did Putting on a great product throughout this This entire stand. We had a couple of great night racing events the the twilight thursdays by continue to grow You know the last two of for example. Thursday we had ninety seven hundred people out here on a thursday Going dollar beers food trucks music and eight live races. And it's just a great great if if if if anybody in the area hasn't taken part of the twilight thursdays when we opened back up in september. Check it out because it's really growing in recent years and it's been a lot of fun one thing that was different and i thought was really cool when it came to this year's kentucky derby is that when you came in you received a free program. They were free for the taking and all of the food and beverages including alcohol was complimentary. Price of admission is that was that kind of an experiment. This year. darren and something we might see more of in the future. We're going to talk about it. That was more dependent situation from a from a covert point with protocols but it was very well received in fact i know i know a number of different people That said hey. We'll pay twice as if you can cap the crowd at fifty thousand this year. So yeah i the one unrealistic parts of that is you know. I think it's very important for us to offer. We've always said it. Want to offer different experiences for every different customer base. And you know this past year we had limited you know capacity of about twenty five thirty percent in the in the churchill downs infield which worked out to be about fifteen to eighteen thousand people. They couldn't come over to the front side I missed people around the paddock area this year. And if you have that general admission experience which has to be at a lower point it's tough to role in an all inclusive food and beverage. And then you know how do you. How do you separate those folks. So we're we're we're gonna talk through those things Maybe be able to offer that type of experience in different segments of our vast facility but It went over very popular with the folks that were on hand at this year's derby. Yeah you know the logistics far. Better than i do and i know you mentioned that you're going to talk about it internally but i think that idea that concept not just churchill but maybe i'm big race days even like breeders cup where there's a a premium package that includes complimentary hospitality throughout the day. You know an all inclusive package if you will. I think that's a really interesting concept. And i think he may have struck something here. Yeah it was like you know. I wasn't you know going into it when you do something for the first time you plan you plan you plan and then you hope it works right and i i was. I was impressed. How very little lives there. Were that was the whole idea. Going in Was to reduce traffic At windows and that that was exactly the case so that was a home. Run on the on the operations team and levy restaurants are are concession there. Yeah and the food was fantastic. I i couldn't take advantage of the Complimentary alcoholic beverages. Because i was working by did hit the beef brisket stand a couple of times and that was outstanding. Yeah tremendous beef brisket sliders. What could be better than that And the kentucky derby. Ama's just perfect all right. Let's talk about what's happening on this closing day program. I mentioned the great to florida. Li got the stephen foster as well. taught me about the program in some of the highlights. The highlights you know. Obviously we have a twelve race program and and because what's russkoe is going to be A heavy favourite in the florida lee. You know that that race sits outside the sequence of the derby city six the late pick five in the late pick four you know to all stakes derby city six Pick five of the pick for and i. I just think it's very competitive We've got the kicking it off the seventh race is like flip through my program which of course mike is sticking. Together you can do at times One hundred fifty thousand dollar war tent for three year olds in on turf There's an interesting race where we see helium getting back to You know Off the dirt of course came from woodbine. was You know racing on the synthetic now a lot of people believe that the synthetics act more like the turf i think. Helium is very well spotted in here. Starting my dreams is also a little interesting For me it's not a move that has always been successful for trainer dallas stewart going from dirt to grass. But i think this isn't a good spot The horse will be forwardly. You know Position ready to pounce. And i think he's fast enough to compete in that race. The two year old races are very interesting with the the eighth racist. The wtop for the two year old phillies We've had some really nice performances for trainer norm. Cassie with some two year olds this me. One of which is on the ones and twos the eight horse Was a very nice winter. And its debut under flora giroux. It's six to one and normal was telling us recently that you know. He's changed his training a little bit with some of the two year olds where you know. Maybe he trained him real hard year ago and they might have been over the top now. He's kind of letting them I'm not gonna say race into shape but he's not training them as hard going into their first couple of starts and when you look at that perspective and you see a horse like on the ones and twos debut and win by liked to three quarters at six to one. that's impressive. there's room to move forward and i I i'm looking forward to seeing how that horse runs. The ninth race is the great three bashford manor going six furlongs for the two year olds and A majority of the worst is here. The colts geldings. I do find it interesting. That a twenty to one shot on the outlaw on the outside she's got attitude Could've of run in the debutante but chose to run here so that's an interesting move for trainer john. Ns i however going to be looking elsewhere. you know. I think i spread in this race. You know using maybe a a horse like a Norm kassy's glacial the four The nine red. Run for steve asmussen and very interesting horse for todd pletcher double thunder Debut winner at the a mama park Very interesting now. I'm gonna give you a bomb. I would not leave off your tick. The ten horse rising outlaw for for Jim chapin Debut at the maiden claiming level at indiana grand. But it was fast. That was fast enough. That works These young horses sometimes jump up and surprising. I'm going to include that horse underneath the my ticket. And of course. We have the wise dan on the card Really a showdown between setpiece and i'm like hot Brown some like an round probably has the tactical edge. This is a race With not a lot of pace but set piece for brad. Cox and judd mont. I mean they just loved her too downs. Winning three or four starts I remember the his debut was well mentioned in the us. Churchill and I think the sources a has a very very bright future and they show in it and then the last race on the program. The twelfth race on the card is the tappan for the three year old phillies I go a mile on the turf. And i just brian lynch. And and and toby's heart eight horse four to one on the line hobby air castellanos up You know if you look at that race to back at keeneland albeit it was sprinting and five and a half furlongs i just i think the source says in a bright future ship the belmont for the soaring softly yeah. I think this is going to be a little softer competition. I'm willing to forgive that. Takes the blinkers off and if we can get around four to one they. Toby's heart is a interesting and at that point you just go cash your ticket and head to the bar. Enjoy the rest of the the evening after What is going to be a fantastic stephen foster program the stephen foster again the favourite and their max 'field Darren is it is it mcafee and everybody else or dc and upset or in this race. No i really do. Think it's max field at all others. I mean i do appreciate the other. Get into their to You know to to to give it a try You know. And i wouldn't use a stone cold you know exactly but you know like like You know max field to me. He's just faster than these others. But you know a wide opinion of the second choice might be silver dust. And i just don't think the source as fast as he was a year ago now. That might be good enough to run second against this group But i i'm just not convinced he's good as he was during his six year old year so i may be looking elsewhere Underneath where i end up just yet. I don't know i got i got a. I got a few more hours to figure it out. Well listen man you. You've done a tremendous job once again with the meat and again. Ben hoffman the entire team at churchill. Just really really a great job with this spring meet and we'll look forward to the doors open again but enjoy stephen foster night and really appreciate you taking some time to to Walk through the program with me today. Absolutely don't forget it's an afternoon program know you said night but you know it's it's because we've we've we've used to run the stephen foster from two thousand twelve to twenty nineteen. In the evening we moved into the enemy. And it's an afternoon program. I post to twelve forty five and you can watch the racing all throughout the day on f s to america's day at the races perfect. Yeah twelve forty five eastern. I post and twelve races to take in including all those greatest stakes should be one. Heck of a day of thoroughbred racing really appreciated darren. Thanks so much and we'll talk again. Soon darren rogers director communications at churchill. Down good stuff really really good program. time now to get you set to bet the races and to do that we turn our attention to today's i bet. Now today's i bet today's i bet comes in rate five at pimlico with the post of to forty one eastern. It is number six hour nikki. L. who is two one on the morning. 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Show at your leisure. You can also check out yesterday's weekend. Stakes preview presented by nyerere bats. That's up there with the selections for all the big races and things to be. Bobby newman and the brits net dot com call in show as well as therefore you on our website horse racing radio dot net. I told you this second hour of the program. Well first of all before. I introduce my guest here to kick off the second hour of the program. I did want to update you on the poll question. Today's poll question. I think this is going to be really interesting to see how it all shakes out if your goal is to win a breeders cup race in november. Which horse would you rather have right now. Lotrowska or max 'field both horses gonna be four to five at least. They're both can be heavy favorites today. In their respective divisions. The florida early and the stephen foster but if your goal is to win breeders cup race in november. Which horse would you rather have. Right now june twenty-sixth true scott or mcafee. You can go to at h. r. n. on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook to weigh in or you can email the show. Mike horse racing radio dot net. If you don't do social media simply send me an email and let me know which worse you would prefer to have this point. Well i do get a chance now to welcome in dallas baker who is with bet makers technology group told you as i was getting ready for the second hour of the program just moments ago that there is a new wagering format a platform coming to new jersey and quite potentially to the rest of the united states. It is not new in other countries. But it is new here. In the united states i think is going to revolutionize the sport. I'll tell you about as soon as i introduced. Dallas who is indeed this week's industry star of the week. This segment presented by stuart morris who offers a boutique full-service bloodstock operation. He wants to his owners his clients and his team. His success he knows is because of you it would multiple stakes horses over the past several years including henley's joy our brain trust ghazi south bend and recent twenty twenty one stakes winners pacific. Gail and nick divest stewart. Morris is your source for success at the highest levels. You can visit the moore's consignment at all of the upcoming major sales without further ado dallas baker from that makers technology group is with me here on the horse racing radio network dallas appreciate the visit. Thanks smoke and I was listening to you. Thank you very well. I appreciate sitting through that. But yeah i thought who better to make this week's industry star of the week then you in the team at bet makers because i truly believe in what you're doing and i really think that what you and the team have worked tirelessly to put together. And it's going to be coming to fruition. I don't want to steal your thunder but you have worked tirelessly for more than a year now. I think this is going to be so good for the sport of thoroughbred racing. So take it away film in thanks. I mean we do too and that's a it has been great for our business but it's also a library because everyone at bit mike is as we've seiken before and as i'm sure everybody who's listening. Can i can tell where pretty good australian accent wearing valley vice company and being passionate rising followers for all of our laws lucky enough to work in this industry and also now lucky enough. Is you say the hopefully of Done something that can be Significant change and significant benefit for the industry. I believe we thought we fixed betting coming into play in a whole new. A whole new source of wagering revenue to the industry which with wrought modeling than Filters back down to All the participants the horsemen and everybody. Who's involved in this game of Of racing Based on a similar model that was introduced into australia public. Ten to twelve years ago when On wagering was deregulated and again same thing. That's the document up su All the Older loss watching varieties sports spitting writers. Whatever you want to define it and in that in that time in australia we've saying adopting the handle on racing Obviously this is a subject to inflationary seager but in general non visit a doubling of of doubling handle racing into intern a double a doubling the laws money which is you know obviously one of the guards to Bid to the health of the whole industry side. Hopefully this is With the legislation getting through the senate and now on the governor's desk to be sawn This is the starting point of that. that price happening in the us. Yeah it's great that this has advanced to the governor's desk and hopefully governor phil murphy will put his signature on there before too long. I know you're expecting that signature sometime in the next week to ten days. Is that fair to say well. Fingers crossed yes Oh yeah budget way here in new jersey. I've got the politicians one. Not more things on there are the but we've We've we've been getting through now where we sort of like fingers crossed that we can be full steam ahead for governor murphy to be taking the first base Leading into the hostile hype play on the fraud. I before that before haskell weekend and hassle obviously the feature is moments park and that thing on july seventeen these the next month. So that's that's the plan. That's the fingers crossed We've with the With with the legislation dropping. We've also got to put his things to get to filter through with the The the regulatory bodies save the dj and the racing commission but all things being equal and smoothly that sarah hopeful Hopefully we can have the first ceremony obey by governor murphy. Just as he did win the past the laws were repealed may have three or there. Thereabouts and with the whole thing is crossed. It's six dollars. Rising can have some of the success that sports betting don if we can have a more honest for that. It's been a huge success. Obviously we've with the phenomenon that is sports betting on the us for people dallas that are hearing the term fixed odds wagering for the very first time it is indeed exactly what it sounds like fixed. I- wagering will allow betters to basically make a bet and retain the odds at the time of their ba. It's different than parimutuel. Wagering were the fluctuate and it's not final until the actual race goes off. This is very much akin to betting a a future wager. Let's say right where you you get price eight to one ten to one and that's the price you get. If the horse goes down to two to one it doesn't matter you're locked in at that. Eight or ten to one Which is kind of a one of the things that really appeals to me about fixed odds wagering so walk me through the process. You get the approval. Everything's up and running. How are people going to be able to participate. And how does it actually work when somebody goes to make all guys of the what would happen from the lost soccer. The way he candidate morning values moments disease. Ample 'cause moments has been the track. We've they need partnership with. Dennis rises fantastic leadership and as he's been a shawnee in the ladyship pricing and rice the administrators in the united states of america. Naturally i went through boneless mating decide. These saturday Two weeks on isn't the right timing and it's high school die Three weeks so much. Say school die. the fields that have come out on weight inside or there abouts. We've had mach up today and probably wednesday afternoon. Worst case bush guys thursday lunchtime so from that song does markets directive and you have the marketplace so Just is the fiber so that the has still at the moment sotoudeh wa or whatever it is that would be you know. That could have gone up to two to one on the side. I was prices fluctuate around. It's a liquid marketplace. The it's always moving and these play becomes one of the salt is the saudi starts betting it's not just drawn back to the wind but it's also trying to assess the market's moving and whether the horse has gotta show or lengthened way you can then try to get the best price i like you as you say your whole smart ended up going off at even money. But if you've got three to one you put a holistic. Actually you think you've got extra facilities chances to increase the potential so you you the wing and of course then you still comparisons the will to the As an extra segment of the market. It adds an extra Potential for people to bet so. That's great for the customer. The customer thing. The ponta in anything. That's better for a bit better for the consumer is usually better for the Better for the beneficiary of that consumer and these guys is the rising industry side by szekely from the feature eyesight at least for the moment from pretty much not long after the fields. Come out fading out up and wrote that guys all the whites routes until the rice starts and it'd be basically then you just workout plus you want one that showed and zine which is great. That's something this Oh visual for short children's in the other the other dinesh during the rice you blows out so you can end up backing by them and vices them. Going around is a good win for you. If you can play the Getting that raw trust. So it's it's a lot like its stock exchange. Play where you're trying to Boy bought the lowest frost and still at the hospital. So it becomes a lot like that. But obviously you your back you. You're you back in your holes to win and yeah so you can bet all the way up into the rice and Hopefully in the senate is coming forward. I'm i'm on the on the on the horn way. Assigning all massey betting plans you know huge bidding cybele is really really looked into. They flew starting in two year old or something along those lawns He's like you know you you get atmosphere of trading for that. Let's all the way in the late up into the rices. And that's thinking itself creates a lot of and then it creates a great avenue for Full meteorite list like yourself to be talking about the actual movement of money on on horse racing. Which today is what i. What a lot of sizes moya number one type of it so it. It creates a rights marketplace and the grinding sought exciting starting life a whole supply reactor. Because as you say obviously with the type we should type needs to exist in great In in the bidding. Hi system product creates that extra extra level of it so you actually getting across rather than just waiting for the rights to jump. And it's united that they can be great variations in that site to fight it off against each other is a great way of getting to and you know anything you can see from the the ponta mike. It better for the monthly makes a bit of the industry. Where will people be able to make their fixed odds wager willoughby a separate website dallas or it will it be tied into the monmouth website. How does that work well. Well the legislation and idols basically wagering operators and rice strikes to So hold licenses for us. I know using new jersey. As the example i think is sitting on available licenses or something like that for a mom. So amounts in sports betting losses authorizes can can Choose to Of bidding wants to once the lowest approves and older rice strikes themselves have boston's as well. So the right strikes seamless of what's happened with the With the sports fitting schemes. That have gone out there. So that enables them to do that But the good thing is to about the legislation. One thing that we wanted to make. Sure the industry's protected. So you just can't have both mike and the and just betting on everyone's sane when they comment on They copied on civil qazvin us or other content without actually having emotional agreement in place with a track where that's important is to make sure that any revenue every revenues will bidding handled steichen on a on a specific meeting that some of that does go back to the track and they fool the holiest man. And you're not depending on what that sizemore the leaves that feels as an into similar by The revenues collected from from from tight money goes back to the back to the industry and the similar sort of rice yard outright depending on depending on what the site regulations all the way that the rice commissions in the tracks they decided to distribute. That's one of the most important things that happens with this that The boot mike. Just kind of go willy. Nilly bit on consent unless they have a pre existing agreement with the tracks. But yes i basically from new jersey point of view They'll be Whatever wise up right about the jump on board with it and The tracks themselves. If i have to do that To be able to offer that as well too and that's what the the legislation the night league legislation that allows that to happen but the good thing about it is it's an teen opting legislation that If you don't wanna play you don't have to play. So we've just grinding up to takes Particularly industry very well. Yeah it's brilliant. It's an exciting time for racing in new jersey. And i think it's gonna be exciting for other states across the country as well when this is introduced to those other states to have about one minute left dallas before after. Wrap things up. But i will ask you that question about other states. Is that the plan now to start looking at Bringing fixed odds wagering to other other states definitely. Yeah so we've had we've had discussions with lots of the other sites The general position was to watch and see what happened in new jersey Naturally i think that's probably nelson in the next stage is for for us to get it up and running fully functioning But in the meantime we'll be discussing that a lot of the other sites and we say the ag again referring back to the hospital after pasha works at saipan the sites that have been bryce sports betting we'll probably be the most likely site so embrace feed stones bidding hopefully standardized sites only required regulatory interpretation. Which would make the price just a lot. Quicker body fits require legislation high. We really hyped it the model that we've created spain three editing new jersey would be because i think that's fair adviser and operators and more importantly fares for the industry that and make sure that make sure that all the All the boxes of take tonight. Show that All the funding does the right spots. Fantastic dallas baker with bet makers technology group here on the horse racing radio network dallas. Congratulations on getting it to this point. I know it's been a long journey and can't wait to see what the future holds for. Fixed is wagering here in the united states should be exciting nor conway martin. Thanks very much shawn and Yeah look forward to look forward to talking in the coming weeks with people progression. Keep it rolling my friend. Thanks bye dallas baker. Here this week's industry star of the week that is. It is truly something that i think is going to be such a benefit to the sport of thoroughbred racing not just in new jersey but as it rolls out across the country. I think you're going to hear a lot more about six wagering and congrats to the team at bet makers for making it all to come together and dentistry the ceo and chairman up at monmouth park to a really good job. Everybody's part putting that together. When i come back. 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This is steve. kauthen winner. The triple crown nineteen seventy aboard affirmed. And you're listening to the horse racing radio network. Heroes in the world of sports are not uncommon. Often times thrusting themselves into the limelight through unimaginable. Feats that bible woods tiger tiger is back woods. The two thousand nineteen masters jab and breathtaking performances. Here's how you count the a three to one. Eight ta college basketball's championship trophy. It's coming home to kentucky. But behind every great hero there are others individuals who play a crucial role in the achievements of those we read about in the headline the ultimate team players content to stand behind the curtain embracing their place as a vital part of a sports success in horse racing. These are the unsung heroes once again. This morning i do have the privilege of welcoming a true unsung hero. In the sport of thoroughbred racing. He does a job. That many of you may not even know exists but it is vital to the success of our sport and vital to the success of those individuals who do indeed find themselves in the spotlight day in and day out. Please join me in welcoming javier torres. Who has served as the clerk of scales at keeneland and churchill downs for the past several years. It is vital job. And he is with me now. Harvey our first of all. Congratulations on being this. Week's unsung hero. A thank you for having me. And i appreciate you guys thinking about me in in In that manner well. I know you don't look at yourself in that fashion and you were destined to be in horse racing. You come from a racing family but the way that you fell into becoming a clerk of scales that that's been a journey for you. Take me back to the beginning. Tell me the story well like you said you said earlier i i mean i was kind of born into the race. The racing game My dad road races in mexico As you know my older brother retired. jackie A younger brother wrote road races. Horses for you know twenty three twenty four years and You know working in the back there in the morning it's more mostly you know in the morning morning time so i had the afternoons off so i was looking for something to do in the afternoons and i started working at arlington park in the paddock. The panic and i did that for a couple of years and then finally A job in the jackson came. Open the scales and at the time frank. Gaberone junior was the racing secretary in any approach. Me about you know. If i was interested in the position and i said of course so so i applied for it and turn off. I got the job. And i was assistant for a number of years And in my travels you know South for the winter to new orleans. I would stop here in kentucky and i feel a few times for the gentleman who's assistant carcass. Scales here dot church on keelan and And and Eventually the position of scales became available here at kentucky and once again The racing secretary been huffman asked me if i was interested. I said yeah. Of course he said well you know to five hundred and i did and sure enough. I got the job. And that's how. I became the corker scales. Here at church on keeneland and kentucky downs also so It just progress you know. I mean i paid my dues. I you know i work long enough. Where eventually whoever was clerk retired or or move to a higher position. So so that's got to be the scales here at at the kentucky trek so And it's i mean i think. Been the corker skills here. Church on cumin. I i wanna see maybe seventeen seventeen years. Maybe something like that has been here long. Wow i didn't know what had been that long. Yeah yeah. I started no not started counting in for keelan. I started in two thousand and three. So it's been it's been it's been it's been about that many years. So did i read somewhere. Havi era that even before you went down that path in and started working in the racing office and then of course eventually leading to being the clerk scales that you actually spent a little bit of time as a cook in the jocks room to i did. This was when i was i was i was in high school and i was riding horses during the summer at arlington for richard hazleton. Scott hazelton of anchor on tv. I worked for his dad in the morning and I would run during their break. Run up to the jack kitching because every everybody knows the best food any racetrack. Is the jackson kitchen. So i would run up there and get something for breakfast and it happened so when morning The the the young lady who was running the kitchen and gabriel. She was by herself in. She surely had someone in there helping her work and she said she sick. I said well do you need help. And she said gave you. Don't mind that we'll will soon as i get done at the barn. I'll come back and help you man. That'd be great so sure enough. I finished you know my horses doing them up. And i would come came to the kitchen and i put everything i started washing dishes. And and you know cooking burgers or whatever. It was funny. It was fun working in the kitchen. have to be about sixteen years old. Yeah you're not wrong about the best food at any rate track being in the room it. It's amazing you know. And people know there's another thing that people listening to the program right now may not even realize that you know in every jocks from across the country. You're going to have a kitchen where the jockeys can grab some food between the races. Usually it's not a lot because they're trying to keep their weight down but that food is simply outstanding. Exactly exactly yeah. I mean i mean every and everybody you know. All the race packers trainers and owners. They know The best the best food is in action kitchen A little story here and tetra. Thomas and owner He he always always called me. Goes making up there and get a burger. I said yeah come on. I mean they have burgers in the grandstand. But he always wants to get one in jackson. Because i guess he thinks they're better there. I can vouch for them personally. They're pretty good Especially here at keeneland. By the way where jill. Babe does a fantastic job with all of her food. She's incredible What does a clerk of scales. What does the job entail well Everyone thinks right off the bat. Kirk scales that basically that my job is to you know to way the riders before they ride and then the top four finishers act of the race after the race. They think that that's i mean. That's basically all the job entitles and so much more. I mean I'm basically charge of all the jockeys the mature they. They show up on time which is anywhere from thirty to forty dollars on on a daily basis. And then i got. I have thirteen ballots in the ballots. Are the guys that south horses. Primary job is the horses and their secondary jobs to take care of the equipment. Their helmets goggles boots. Make sure everything's clean and everything you know safe and up to par. So i mean you're talking about i mean in the in the room on any given day you know i'm responsible for fifty people you know and There there's a coordinator he he's in charge of maintaining the silks. Make sure they're playing. Make the right still go on the right track for every race so all that falls under my previous so i have to make sure that everything's basically running like a well oiled machine Another another thing that that my job entitles any change scratches ownership corrections. You know equipment changes everything goes through me The stores give me the change. And then i finally it through two different Outlets the press box The press box of the bookkeeper the announcer the tv department Like i said everything that you know you're at the track or if you even if you're not at the track and the little Scrolling thing on the bottom of every race that said you know gives you changes Scratched horses equipment changes. You know overweight at all that goes through gets channel through the through the kirk scales at the end of every race. We have to take down a rundown. Basically we have to put down the order of finish on a on a on a sheet Patient so the bookkeeper knows you know who gets paid what you know as far as jockeys You know who won the race. Who second who served so on and so forth so she can pay them according cloud. Wow there is a lot to it. it's not just weighing jockeys in and making sure that they're that they're the same way that they are after the race that they were before but that that is part of it too. That's an important part of the job. Yeah yeah i. I mean And and everyone always asks you know especially you know people who are new to the game or whatever and they'll see me out by the winner's circle and they'll see me wayne the like the top four finishers and they'll see who you know. Why are you waiting. And why are you in them and and claimed to them that in the program They'll carry different ways for different races depending on the condition of the race. So on and so forth the horses age blah blah blah. so what what. basically what. We're checking for the race is to make sure that they don't come back under that way. That's an a program for example if they're carrying one hundred eighteen pounds. That's the jockey with his saddle so we're making sure that he's not under one eighteen now. They're always going to be over that number because there are certain certain equipment that they don't check with. They don't check with their helmet. They don't check with their safety vests. They don't check with their over earth. That safety it's considered safety equipment. So that doesn't that doesn't count into the way so they're always going to be. You know three two three or four pounds over always and sometimes more when on monday. Where when it's raining they're gonna 'cause they're gonna be soaking wet so what we're basically checking for more than anything is that they don't come back underneath that way. Yeah that they haven't somehow gotten later during the running of the race. Exactly that's that's considered cheating basically and and knock on wood. That's never ever happened. Why was a corporate sales. I hope it never does the last the last time. Something like that occurred I wanted to say was it was in the belmont stakes Maybe ten twelve years ago. Maybe maybe for the back. It was a horse trained by kieran. Mcglasson i believe and i think we're jeep mirage. Where the horse and to make way for the race he had to had a four pound pad which the rubber pad that goes underneath the saddle to make the weight and during the running of the race the had slipped out from underneath. The saddle. Came out so when when we came back to scale he was he was under the weight so he i mean he didn't carry the weight during the running of the race so he got this and i wanna say finished third and got disqualified to last so i mean that's a big deal because you know that's that's that's a good amount of money for the owner you know and he and for the jockey to and caused carrying too but they went back and reviewed the film the pad accidentally slipped out so The jockey you know nobody got in trouble for. It was just a mess up. So that's the last time. I can recall something like that happened. Just incredible talking with a man who is indeed true unsung hero in our sport. that is happier torres. The longtime clerk of scales here in kentucky he works at keeneland he works at churchill. Downs and you heard him say he works at kentucky downs and talk about all the different jockeys that you're responsible for in the different ballots. That are all kind of underneath your watch if you will if you wanna look at it in that fashion one thing that's very unique about thoroughbred racing is that when for example the nfl both teams at halftime. We'll go back to a separate locker room. That doesn't happen. In horse racing. All of the competing jockeys are in the same room together. You ever have to be a a referee when the competition that he did. Yeah yeah yeah. You know what. I'm not gonna i'm not gonna sugar coat it. Yeah i mean like you said In any other sports teams both to their own locker room separately. You know i. I mean in our sport you know the competing jockeys you know after races. They come back to the same locker room so you know if someone feels like they they got. Maybe you know squeezed a little or you know. Put it in a tight spot. You know i mean you know. Yeah they they come back and and sometimes you know the the argument gets heated. And you know. I personally i. I don't condone any you know fighting in the room. I mean sometimes. I you know i'm i'm walking back to the room and i come back in. You know they tell me all you know the little scraps. I never saw it or whatever but in my presence i don't allow it. I don't like it to happen. You know i mean act can happen. And you know i mean they. It can get get serious. So i don't condone it to say that it doesn't happen. I'm not gonna lie it. It does because you know. I mean they're out there competing on on these horses going thirty five forty miles an hour. I mean you can easily get hurt or killed. I mean you know it's it's not. It's not something where you could take very lightly you know and i i can imagine being in a race getting put in a tight spot and you know i mean almost going down or something i mean you've got to be on needles needles and it's gotta shake you up you know so yeah i do i mean sometimes you know they just basically words or you know you know. Why did you do this back. And forth. And you know and and like i said in my presence i don't i don't i don't allow them to fight because you know they're like oh yeah let them do it no i i just i don't believe in it i don't like it. I don't like to see that you know but to say that it happens in like i said if it happened before i get back to the room or after is not my presence you know. I don't know i didn't see it. But you know i i don't know but you gotta you gotta understand like i said they're out there competing in it mean they can be down in hurt and and it's dangerous. You know so. I mean you could understand how how high the you know the the the level of their adrenaline. And it's gotta be you know. And i mean to turn it on and off. You know it's not. It's not easy. I can't i can't believe it's easy. So yeah i mean i am a referee. I mean one occasion during the breeders puppy churchill and i mean it was on national television. Have your salon cowan burrell. I mean they had you know there was situation there and i mean they started swinging at each other and i was caught in the middle and i think they hit me more than they hit each other but Yeah on occasion i. I got to be a referee. So yeah and i've seen you do your job. I've been fortunate enough to sit in the jocks room We do a lot of interviews with jockeys leading up to big races. And you're always a tremendous help to us. That is another one of your jobs. You work with the media. Horse racing radio network. Nbc tv g. Whoever it might be. That's looking to coordinate some type of interview with jockeys. You're the one who oftentimes goes back into the room gets. Jackie brings them out gets them to the area. They need to be handles a lot of those timings to. Yeah yeah yeah. I mean that is part of the job to and and i think i think i think it's good and i think and i tried to tell these young jocks in or even jockeys these jockey that come from you know South american countries that you know their english isn't that great. I i tell them. Listen you need to work on your on. You know speaking english learning english. You know so those those opportunities that you get to be interviewed. I mean you're well-spoken in people's understand what you're saying you know i mean it's it's it's only going to benefit them and it's gonna benefit all of you know in the in the industry you know what i mean. I mean basically the rock stars of of of of the game you know. They're the stars so any positive light that we can you know promote and and get out there. I think it's a plus. Plus you know and you guys i mean. Of course i mean you guys are putting you know our our industry. You know you're putting it out there to to the masses. So i mean and you guys are all effective or with you michelle. Everybody you know like you said. Nbc you know so. It's a pleasure to work with you guys because you guys are trying to make us look good. Make the industry look good and you know and and show you know. Show the betting public. You know the fans you know what we're about you know. Yeah i appreciate you saying that. And likewise to it's always a delight to work with harvey torres who is this week's unsung hero. Presented by clayborn era. Cut more questions before we wrap up this segment here. This morning After would you say seventeen years or so of being the clerk scales at at keeneland in the kentucky tracks here do you view yourself as more of a a father figure to some of the younger riders that come in there and you're teaching them You know about the way that they're gonna to handle themselves or is it more a brother figure where. You're you're almost Brother to brother when you're talking to them you know. I guess it depends. I mean because it's such a vast group of guys in their jockeys You know they're their ages ranged. From i i gotta jock as i think yesterday an apprenticeship just wanna raise things like sixteen seventeen years old and then i got the older doxa john court who i mean you know you know. He's a few years older than me. But you know. He's he's a veteran rock. And i mean the ultimate professional so i mean what can i teach john that he you know that he doesn't already know but yeah i mean to the older guys. Yeah they're more. Like you know. Like brothers like a coronary or rob alvarado those guys. 'cause we're we're closer in age but these young writers. You know the tyler. Gaffney owns Door tease boys. You know it's guys like that. You know if if i can if i see that they need to you know hold on something or tapping into something. Yeah i you know. I'll tell me if i see this. You know you know you should try. This is my you might help you or whatever you know as far as and not not not necessarily a writing point of view or whatever because i never road races but anything since like like i said English you know the better your english. It's only gonna help you. You know there's some of these jock did Like i said they that they don't put that extra effort to learn how to speak. Better english you know and you know it's only gonna help them. It's gonna help their business you know and so they do get interviewed there. Well-spoken people are understanding. And you know they're making that extra effort so stuff like that you know you know always be courteous you know say thank you and stuff like that you know just stuff that that might seem like a small thing but you know it's it's it goes a long way when they do it you know so we've started this segment talking about the fact that there are plenty of people that are tuned in that. Don't even know that there is a clerk of scales at a race track. And i think now they do. If somebody comes to you how the asked you about being a clerk of scales. What what are you going to tell them that. The the number one greatest thing is about being the clerk scales man. there's there's there's so many You know what honestly the my dad always said he said if you do what you love is not work. And and he's right. I mean because i i love. I love being at the race. The horses of course is our number one. I mean i think we're all in this industry for the love of the horse. I mean you you got and you take the none of us are there. Jockeys myself racing officials. I mean you guys have nothing to cover. So i mean we're there for the horse and and just being around the horses into being at the track is the best now my job. Personally i mean i get i get the hang out with these with these. You know. unbelievable. I mean they are. I mean tom. Per pound the best athletes. I you know. And they're great guys great people. I mean they're family. You know. I mean we're we're a family we really are. I mean i started thinking about it. I mean i probably spend more time in in the jackson with the jackson valid. And the guys. I work with then. I do my own family. I mean it you know. And so how could they not be considered family. When i spend time with you know so and we are we. Are you know they're closed. Yeah it gets heated but trust me at the end of the day they have respect for each other you know. Everybody congratulates everybody. Everybody you know. It's it's it's fun to be in a room you know and yes it's it's serious business work with. We have fun in there. We have you know we got some practical jokers in there and you know they played jokes and it's fun it's fun you know what it said. Brotherly come commodity that that you know that unites everybody in the end. It's fun you know. I mean who who look. We get paid to go and have fun. Who has they love. They love writing. You know biggest if you ask ninety five ninety seven percents of them if they do it for nothing they say yep we they'd 'cause they love riding horses you know yeah. Yeah who's the biggest prankster in the jacksonville. Ooh the biggest prankster. Let me think let me think At at it right now Kalomo pretty tunnel like he likes to. He likes to play Coronary and this is pretty good now. He can't take it very good but he likes dish it out And trust me. Everybody likes to get corey. Because he's so easy so easy to get so There's a couple of pretty good. I mean yeah. Fantastic stuff javier torres. This week's unsung hero presented by clayborn. Havi are listen man. Congratulations on this. Honor here. this morning and Keep up the wonderful work This sport cannot function without your job and without your dedication and efforts and everything you do. So congratulations and keep it rolling my friend man. Thank you so much. thank you so much for. I mean to say unsung hero. And i mean it sounds good in you know. I'm just. I'm just a small part in in a big brother and you know we all have the game and you got to do and keep it real. You're the best heavier torres here. Unsung heroes presented by clayborn. I'll be right back after this word from claiborne. Farm demarchelier offers readers rare opportunity. His pedigree includes nine breed one winners under the first three dance including classic winner. Galileo crow. A tv and rising star at two. He went on to capture. Victories at kema med belmont including the green three point nine ridge stakes by sire of sires new bowie whose top sons include the sensational sired night of thunder. The only stallion by do volley in kentucky marcia gay standing at claiborne farm. A what a fun segment. That was if you missed it. You can go back and check out the podcast later after the show on our website horse racing radio dot net and again my thanks to claiborne and to heavier torres for making that one possible here this morning if you know someone you feel should be an unsung hero. You can nominate them by sending me an email. Mike at horse racing radio dot net. Somebody you feel needs to be recognized as doing great work behind the scenes. Send them to me. I will do my best to have them on this unsung heroes segment in the weeks and the months ahead. I'm back to take you on a stroll through racing history with kurt becker. When i return. This is the equine forum. 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Perfect drift there that opens up quickly by three buzzards bay brass hat per charge from bob. Seek big shot perfect drift. Seek out of the outside of perfect drift. Hit to close on knows. A part of the stephen foster into one forty nine in one a late charge from the bomb. Luke crash late luke. Cry with the call of that race. Was the two thousand. Six running of the stephen foster seek gold golden kevin barral coming from far back at odds of ninety one to one to upset perfect drift brass hat and all the other contenders buzzards bay was actually the favorite in that race. Remember buzzards bay. I remember seek goal. We were sitting out backed by the paddock area. Doing the broadcast of that race. It was one of the first. Ever times we had broadcast race from churchill downs in the infancy of hr n. And to see seek gold. Who is trained. Then by ron mo- come flying at the end. What a thrilling finish that was. And it's a day. I will never forget the dollar win. Pay out one hundred eighty five dollars and forty cents on seek gold. Not bad for two dollar win. Bet seat gold. Calvin barral ramo quit. They're all part of racing history. Considering that upset in the stephen foster and that leads me into this week's edition of kurt bekker's stroll through racing history on kurt becker. Thanks for joining me as i take. Another stroll racing history presented by lanes end and she feet twenty eight rivals to win the richest race of the year. And one of the biggest fields ever assembled for a stakes race in the united states. Her name was mother deuce and later today. The new york racing association will remember her with the sixty third running of the mother. Goose stakes belmont park a brown filly who was described as blocking not particularly big athletic mother. Goose was folded in nineteen twenty two her owner and breeder was harry payne whitney a member of america's aristocracy whose father had served as secretary of the navy during the first grover cleveland administration whitney known for his integrity and described by damon. Runyon as the first american sportsman had already enjoyed considerable success with home breads in nineteen fifteen. His filly regret a daughter. A broomstick had become the first staffer ever to win the kentucky derby and now in nineteen twenty four his billy mother. Goose was emerging as one of the top juvenile fillies on the east coast. Mother goose broken track record on debut and have grace in maryland. In april of her two year old season she would prove that effort was not a fluke when she won the fashion stakes later that spring at belmont park followed by a runner up. Finish at belmont in the astoria on july fourth as the late summer campaign unfolded. All eyes turned to belmont in september. For the running of the futurity stays with a purse of seventy five thousand dollars. It was the richest race of the year in north america and it would pay sixty five thousand dollars to the winner. A total of twenty nine juvenile's entered the event to be contested. Six furlongs whitney had won the futurity on four prior occasions but never with a philly and a home bred. Filly at that mother. Goose would be part of a three four century. Trained by james. Row for whitney that day at odds of six to one the philly broke sharply state in the first light of traffic throughout the sprint and won by a head over longshot stimulus before a crowd of twenty five thousand still. There were critics mother. Goose had only one hundred fourteen pounds while others had carried as much as one twenty-seven she had barely held off a fifty to one outsider in the vinyl strives the winners of the whole the saratoga special the sanford the spent away and the adirondack had not even been in the lineup result of injuries in some cases and ineligibility and others yet history has proved that mother goose's win in the nineteen twenty four belmont futurity over twenty eight rivals was truly remarkable in a race which dates to eighteen. Eighty eight is still held annually. To this day she remains one of only thirteen phillies ever to win the belmont maturity and her impact on the freed as evidenced by her status as direct maternal ancestor of leading sire halo and superstar. Not dancer today. The sixty third running of the mother goose stakes go to the post at belmont contested as a great to abet for a purse of three hundred thousand dollars. Some of the greatest. Billy's in the sports history have won the race name such as ruffians. Gopher one serena's song and in two thousand nine in her first start winning the preakness rachel. Alexandra won the mother. Goose tom durkin gives us the call. I'll grueling pace from album prayer and flashing. They're still head to head for the aid. To links behind them looms preakness winner. Rachel adds actually goes there. She goes between horses and without sites of trust. It's rate cho- alexandra can now. They're turning it on kelvin. Barral cuts those and she's pouring it on in a dazzling display here. Nothing left for the other. Two coming down to the final sixteenth of a mile. Her march greatness continues rachel. Alexandra wins margin. Was almost twenty second. Time was one forty six and one five seconds. And that's a new record in a race which at the time was still contested at a mile. Innovate rachel alexandra. One by nineteen and a quarter lengths it stakes record of one minute. Forty six point three three seconds. Ask for mother. Goose herself she was nominated to the preakness the kentucky derby and the kentucky oaks as the three year old in nineteen twenty five. Yep she never returned to the races after her sensational campaign still. She owns one of the most memorable victories ever recorded by north american juvenile. The new york racing association remembers today. And we join them in saluting legacy. Please join me again next week as i take another stroll through racing history presented by lanes in and keenly for hr. I'm hurt becker Great stuff and we remember mother goose on this day as kurt alluded to the mother goose stakes taking place at belmont park always highlight of the summer racing season. At least for me as somebody who grew up watching the racing in new york and seeing the triple t era remember that was what the acorn the mother goose and the coaching club. American oaks the triple crown for fillies in new york. It was Really an unbelievable series. Not like that anymore. Unfortunately but the mother goose still tremendous racing. Wonderful stuff by kurt becker. If you want to hear all kurtz stroll through racing history segments through available via podcast on our website horse racing radio dot net. Just click on the shows tab at the top of the homepage and you can go back and listen to all of them at your leisure. I'm back with more this equine forum on the horse racing radio network your home for racing's biggest events the national. Hp is continuously working to protect the health and welfare of horses by advocating and funding research to help reduce see quite injuries. 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And indeed conversations with the biggest names in racing jockeys trainers owners more plus h. r. n. is committed to helping disabled riders through their support of the pd so climb aboard a winner today by visiting horse racing radio dot net dorado. An i listened to. Hr are and you're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. Welcome back mike. Berna the backdraft. Happy to have you with me getting ready to wrap up our number two huge third hour program coming up though. Plenty more conversation about the stephen foster program and so much more. I will tell you about that momentarily. But as i like to do in the segment every week it's time now to take a look at some notable dates in racing history on this june twenty six than it was thirty five years ago. That jockey. Sandy hawley won his five thousandth career race aboard mighty massa at canterbury downs that came on june twenty-sixth nineteen eighty-six june twenty-sixth nineteen ninety-two jockey. David gaul became the eighth rider in history to ride six thousand winners when road. Nana's nice boy to victory at fairmount park in one thousand nine hundred four on this very day jockey. Chris mccarron road career winner. Number six thousand win and disdain one the milady handicap at halloween. Hollywood park he was the eleventh rider to reach six thousand and the thirty youngest behind. Bill shoemaker and laffit pincay junior and one more -fornia june twenty-sixth two thousand hall of fame. Trainer lucien laurin conditioner of nineteen seventy-three triple crown winner. Secretariat died at the age of eighty eight. That's going to do it for the first two hours of today's show. Plenty more to come our three kicks off with this edition of in the room with sean clancy. His unique one. On one jockey to jackie conversation this week with jockey. Jose for rare at ten twenty five. I welcome in two times. Stephen foster winning trainer dallas stewart looking to complete the hat-trick later today and in the final segment of today's show. We go down the road to the breeders cup with trainer fausto gutierrez he prepares the saddle the ultra talented lotrowska later today in the florida league. If your station is leaving us at this time you can continue listening at horse. Racing radio dot net and in the louisville kentucky market on. Espn six eighty or on your computer or mobile device. Our three the forms next ten second pause for facial identification. This is h. r. n. From the rail to your radio fierce is the horse racing radio network ticket. Second quarter into the final furlong. There will be a fourth jewel in the crown. He's a credit to the american. Pharaoh has belted a grand slam in the breeders cup classic. Welcome to the equine forum other. It's wondering he'll go to work. He's the horse of the year was forgettable performance in the is world cup. 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From what eight nine ten years ago. It's out there for you head back and listen to them whenever you get some time. If you're driving around pot them up bluetooth him in your car. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Follow us on social media to hr twitter horse racing radio network on facebook and on instagram. Here's the poll question today. If your goal is to win a breeders cup race in november which horse would you rather have right now. Lotrowska or max 'field now. Both of those horses are heavy. Fortify morning line favorites for the rest of races later today. Lotrowska in the floor. Max field in the stephen foster. It's an interesting question i'm really. I'm curious as he. This all plays out in the very end because you lotrowska could very well. Now be the leader in that distaff. Division she already has the winning. You're in by winning. The phipps innermost most recent. Start monoploy girl would be a handful for the truce guy. At least you would think although the already beat her wants this year. But i think in a rematch. You give the edge to the altar tough alter talented monoploy girl but true ska just continues to get better and better and better so it's interesting if modern white girl doesn't come back lotrowska very well could be the horse to beat and if you're trying to win breeders cup race that's always a good thing max yield on the other hand as good as he is now. Six for seven. Lifetime is only loss coming in march in the grade one santa anita handicap. We'll have to contend with a couple of very talented stablemates of his lead. So much stablemates. Because they're not with the same trainer but the same owners anyway. Godolphin mystic guide. What are the dubai world cup. Who was probably at the top of this older horse division right now. I think you'd have to say that. That's legit in the central equality. Who won the ballon steaks. And by the way. Don't forget about hot rod. Charlie who will also be pointed out assume. Twitter run in the breeders cup classic. So mac field has in my opinion a tougher path to being a breeders cup winner. And of course that's all based on my girl not making it back for the breeders cup november. She is currently on the sidelines. But we know she can bounce back. She's done before and she can bounce bounce back very quickly. Interesting question h. r. n. on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. If he don't social media you can email me your answers to the to the poll question. Mike a horse racing radio dot net all right coming up here hour. Three begins within the room with sean clancy. He sits down with. Monmouth park's leading writer. Jose ferrer then. I welcome in trainer. Dallas stewart to talk about going for a third stephen foster leaders later today and the road to the breeders cup with fausto gutierrez joining me to talk about lotrowska. That is all ahead. But it begins with this week's edition of in the room with sean clancy presented by this is horse. Racing dot com. This is in the room with sean. Clancy sean plant. And i'm in the room. Jackie jose ferrer in a career that began in nineteen eighty-two zafer are still going strong winning fifty two races so far in two thousand twenty one standing atop the mama parche standings and climbing ever closer to five thousand career wins at fifty seven day. Living proof that age is just a number. Welcome to the show. Hey how you doing guys guys this to me. I mean the movie star also with the movies here. Hey you know nice to meet you guys. Thank you so much to get me. She'll appreciate how it's great to have you back to the beginning growing up in puerto. Rico how did you become a jockey. Was that something you always wanna do or your family was involved. They're having that all come back. Your phone was call collins up a senior. My cousin killed sixty lopez A couple of more. Eric lumper's stadium up as we like five six riders and a family. I'm pretty much again involved through my uncle. He's open the door for all of. Wow we know those names. I mean those are i. Comic means in our sports so following them along when you were a kid just growing up wanting to be a jockey. Is that how that you just like found them here. Believe you wanna be a baseball player. I mean we all did we all man who at it. now i don't have the hikes at all to be You know baseball players. I become riding pharma steps. That was on. Because i always wanted you baseball player. Jackie for eleven. So five feet tall. So i might as well stick it on. Were please below. You know because my and so we've got a good king for sure. Did you ride in puerto rico or did you come to american. I start reading here. No i can't even more part ninety two. I was in puerto rico for a little bit not too much so here took them all. He got me here. jersey to we're going say on. That's i phrase right and Here making to come apart and they come easy it was. It was a tough getting started. Or was that you have doors kind of open for what was that like. That was tough kind of if you know you know you gotta be big time i you have you know pretty much foundation or you know lay the ground from there will really hot and hopefully you know people open to go for you but you know you gotta work and hot any anything you wanna do more. You know you gotta hot it. Yeah of course. And you've worked hard to get where you're and take us through those years. You've been very consistent staying mostly new jersey and Tampa bay downs. I guess for the most part no place. But even i'm i. I'm jersey in jersey to philadelphia for we used to be a well role. Start beginning beginning eighty to kissing racetrack and they tend to name to part. I know spark regime. But i wrote a couple of years here. I roll fires in cargo. You know these calls. I went to a call used to be called her better miami. I was there for another five years so more. All these goals are always calls me way when i was in power a out track so they knew me ways Open minnesota. wow you know what. I mean Yeah All these tracks you know be you know i used to be. You know you know kind one Once a week i was doing. I was running and In the bridge in islands to so place on ily england. Yeah you followed the circus right. That's what i tell me about it as little as great spirits you got to me you know different culture different states being people you know what i mean Yappier until different full environment is it you know. I think he's great experience. You know to meet You know be via part of you know people culturism stuff is really great and you're still going strong and fifty seven. Is that something you always expect it or do you just kinda take day by day. What's that like a journey. I put a time or year a moment. You know. I wanna be riding tire. No i just go to do myself you know. I've got two children beautiful wife you wife. She's beautiful and got two beautiful kids. I got fire all. Joey i gotta say real derek There's pretty much fuming. I always call my you know any funny my kids and my wife. Give me me the excitement and now see my kids enemy. I get really fired up. Ryan my to drink now. Seaman dance given how he's a gaming this individual. I'm just You know got middle stairs. Human strength on on all the community voice. Fill me fluids That's gonna keep me going. I love like. I don't know why retires. Wanna keep going. You know there by dame joined myself working hard. 'cause i work at heart a work out. I twice a day every single day. You know got me. Jim house like tom mon jim here. We're going to junction. I work in your mom's university. My follow is Is acquitted money there so outfits. Jim here so i was always trying to work out every day. And what what i am. I was trying to do something you know. Wait rum right bites. I like to live a lot. do you know. don't wait. that's what i love to how you keep up with these young kids. I guess right well try to keep all these days. You know like the the like puts out with the kids. Hey you gotta were heart you work law but you know a lot of kids you know instagram's in a facebook go out you know what time for that so You wanna work out actually do you. You're your heart you body later on when you're my age. You real awry. You compete. so that's what i'm doing. have to work. the heart is completely you younger them. The you know twenty four year and then myself. That's why i gotta do harder to work. But you know i. I love to compete. You know what i mean. Tom brady tom coyne. He's you know quarterback ready scored by forty two years old computer guys. You know twenty years. You only him so You know focus. Now you know what i mean so That's my goal. you know. Keep working hard. And take pity and joy. I love what are you doing what i'm doing myself do my family around me so pretty much. Just my foundation right now. You can hear it in your voice that enthusiasm. You're off to a great start momma and and this year mammoth. They've instituted basically whipless racing where you can only use it as a safety device. How has that affected. Your ryan is that is that changed. How you riders. That is that actually been a benefit to the way you're right. I think benefit to me. Because i came. Come back in eighties when you know when i start riding you know people are. You know riders They used to write you. Don't see barely heated with. They pretty much wasn't a beta position. I'm ri- you mean. Held the hoarder. The rains you know like five day or talkable part but then you can do all the great writer. You'll see them then. Never hit cpap a lame horse and right the man he's gonna he knows you're gonna be going sixty miles to handwrite it. Bam bam maybe smart you know it was it was to be of was like to you know last minute you wanna be waking waking up harder than hoses. So that was you know we. You know the is bugging as much to days to Use the you know. Let lives asham. I would say sure enough not enough. We've go through stink bomb in a response and they give you only get so basically. I was brought up that way now when they're being used rule year. It'll hurt me much because i know it was a a you know whippings writer whenever lecture. Yeah you know. I wanna fuck december. I used to be a final. You all gonna hit your head so you know. Believe him up and you believe in doing because you know he's like i was out with you know. Have a by them. If you hit a two three times response you hit a twenty times even more than what he did you know but you know some of the different but you know eighty five percent of the horses respond like two three time full bang. Don't wanna even more been an animal for you know you know so. I can't do that school now when they stopped the with. And i'm pretty much. What i'm doing kim us down. I'm thinking an my eighty you know. But i'm a that's what i'm doing just hammering. You know my style now. I know enough to do that after sure. Have you seen any difference in the racing. Horses thing straight or is there is the affiliates any safer. What's it been like minister. Bizzare made any difference. I'll be honest that'd be honest A little safety day be because wayne you he goes. You tend to lose your race a little bit. And when they host react to the game out you don't see that too much now you know host. Yeah you know what. I mean about the way thing when they hit something somebody punch you want something you move that way when the impact coming from so i don't see all see less moving around you know host ducking real heart outside inside from the whip. You don't feel pretty bad. I mean The only thing you hobbies up I mean you know you trust to pay people like you know. We hear the basketball game. You got thirty seven you coach. You guys thirty six. You know last quarter in the nfl. You go guys. I want all out you know You see a boxing match last wrong. Of course can't you say frazier on it'd be gay once. I wanted everything that's why at thinking. That's how we not. How not every horse. You know as much as you re yet with way. 'cause i was believed know the the we have that tool to all come in occasionally horse people Always got the whole thing of we. Real all you'd be the always doorman you'd be the horse way to communicate you. Send them because this is not a horse. So he's not like a dog you say fit said gonna still your animal when you're Raanan thirty five miles an hour. You know why they're so. We use to communicate with animals. Hey it's time to go and then you have the race who hold go back and the other thing to communicate signal you all right. So who is your yet so you don't so that's hobby meet until you've always. Is somebody gonna win. Somebody rose me so Yes that's about online. I wish we have a he. Looks like like top by six. Six six you can. You can post your horse. Me should've to something that you know it went for you. Know fifteen twenty times evil completely Out so you know this like you know. I mean a avenue between you know you can push me twenty dollars now. You can push me hockey play hockey. You monkey chatterbox the. Let's play hockey. Nobody does each other. Okay guys even all the puck nobody no contact all full both know that no play five foot flat football. You truly too much too much right. It was my personal opinion. I would agree with that. It was a bit of an extreme this going from open open policy to nothing and probably there was a happy medium between but it has been interesting to watch the races. I hear you think the horses do seem like they're running a little bit straight or you don't seem weaving around as much as maybe some tracks. I think it's been interesting Thinking about it really quite twice one clean fowl putting a gate that bubbling turns. 'cause right of the you know the whole the rings because you know they can way so people make better decisions. I think you know my freshman. You know aggressive where you've been stick to to the field. You've been more aggressive more fan. You hit rains lose because no matter what you were you are where you put your up. You push your host to a week to go the race going to get what i'll say your. How many talented. Your you rent is going to be updated lose. 'cause he called him. Prince william the twins so little different so you hit one. Rain is probably tango. It'd be so now hosts yet and so like going out. So you'll you'll see that i don't i don't see you probably see them a lot. We don't have the ship length. Lot right yeah. I i would agree with that. It's finishing to watch. What are they when you look back at your career or almost. Five thousand wins. Four thousand five hundred seventy two races. Which an unbelievable number your forty fifth all-time one behind the great don brumfield when you look back at your career. How much do you account to lock. And how much of it is. Hard work Libby both you know seen between both you know you always go to pay. But they used to. They used to have us as better. Be lucky than good. You know be like he's you know it's between you have to but you have to work hard to you. Have to These how the foundation to To get some kind of goals in life you know. I wouldn't be the best. I want to win a bunch of races but yet it will hard. You have to be lucky to. But he's he's better. Be looking good so you have no luck and work hard. You know a little bit of both. I guess right. It'd be both may be more. I'll be leaving. You know a few years. You know my favorite still showing. You know me How many how many. Oh you can't do another when we got our city that he's great he's great to be. You know part of this raising doing now to say you know. Hey he's that's amazing because they are still going strong and fifty seven. Thanks for being on the show. Thanks so much always great. When sean gets a chance to sit down one on one with a fellow jockey that brethren connection is is so cool because sean has played the game and understands the intricacies and the things that go into riding races. Things that go on behind the scenes that most of us don't even know my thanks to jose. Ferrer and to sean for providing us with that in the room segment each week. A portion of the proceeds from in the room are given back to the pd j. f. the permanently disabled jockeys fund if you would like to help support in the room and the pd j. f. simply send me an email. Mike horse racing radio dot net and we can get you taken care of there and support a great cause and boy what a fund segment that was by the way all of those segments if you missed any of them some great visits ramon dominguez Comes to mind. That was one of my favorite ones Florencia ru is there you can go back and listen horse. Racing radio dot net. They're all podcast for you on our website to listen to whenever you get some time when i come back. I'll turn our attention back to the stephen foster. I'll talk to the two times. Stephen foster winter dallas stuart as he goes in search of the hat trick later. Today this is the equal form h. r. n. Championship racing is now at the legendary pimlico. Race course pimlico. Meet offers library thing friday through sunday with a post. Time at twelve forty pm wager on pimlico rainbow pick. A carryover has crushed the maryland state records and tax the million dollar mark. Don't miss your chance to win. 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Tiptoe down yet fox sports and for describing the final count onto with seeking seeking that saw posture. Welcome back to the forum here on h. r. n. That is a pair of stephen foster. Victories for trainer dallas stewart. He looks for number three later today with chest. Chief who is One of the main players against max field in that mile and an eighth test will see if he can pull it off. He is with me now. Here on the horse racing radio network. We'll see what he thinks. Dallas welcome my friend. Hey mike how's long but it's good pal. How're you excellent. Would you think number. Three in the cards would chess chief. Or what i hope. So he's He's proven he's proven warrior. So we're hoping that the mylan and be a little better for them than it was about sixteen and the al. She'll yeah he's been beaten a couple of times this year. By max 'field he'll have to turn the tables on that rival and several others. But you know it's not like he's been embarrassed. He's finished third behind him both times. And in the mine shaft and the fairgrounds whose only beaten three and three quarter length is the distance enough to make up that ground on a horse like knoxville. Hopefully hopefully johnny video shake him up a little bit. So i'm going to try. He's very good horse. So we'll see when you come into a race like this dallas and you have pulled off a lot of upsets you've saddled a lotta horses that have run big when it didn't seem like they were going to Chess chief certainly looks like a contender in here. But when you approach a race like this where there's a heavy favourite what's your mindset going into the race. Well you hope that you've made a step forward like we said. We hope that the distance is a little more beneficial for you. Know then if You know maybe max villa be offer staff you know you just don't know you hope match up good some way somehow but it's comes down to a horse race. Maybe we'll have a better trip than maybe you know a few things. Maybe we're going to get better. Just you know flat out beating so it could go all kinds of ways. That's why that's why we run them. I mean it's a big person. Six hundred thousand interest even foster so sure worked to try. Yeah winning. you're in for the breeders cup classic. He's gonna from the rail but he has a guy on his back. That knows that racetrack and certainly knows how to work out. A good trip from the rail. Tell me more about Going johnny here. Well we're we're glad to have him and just worked out like that. Science has been rodney. But he's at the ohio. Derby and johnny was available and we jumped right on. Glad glad to have him hoping that matchup good inform. What things are you seeing from chess chief since the alysheba that makes you think. He's sitting on a big effort. You know he's just a a strong consistent. Horse trains hard eats good. Looks good all the time so He's just a constant constant racehorse. Yeah he is all racehorse in. He's in the hands of the very capable dallas stewart. Who is You know just continues to click along dallas. I don't know what the secret is man but year in and year out you send them out and they just run well we show up show up and train them. We got a great staff. Have some guys. It's been a long time twenty years thirty years seventeen years. You know a lot of the same people that say they're in it out you know. It's a big big help chess. Chief is not the only horse. You're going to have on the saturday program. We also send out Lansdowne in the bashford manor. Tell me a little bit. More about lansdowne. Well we weren't that surprised when he want. He's very fast horse. He worked really well ran. Good and you can look at his work habits. Been working well since His made for and he should show up and run hard a good two year old race but he's a very professional type cold so that's going to help him out also. How long did it take you to know that he could run a little bit when you first got him into your barn. He was just solid in his like he came in prepared very well With the group. And i he he. He continued to be the other colts in the morning and he showed up nice with strong works. Passwords was extremely fast leaving the gates. So that's what it takes to your racist. We're kind of working backwards here. But you have star in my dreams in the seventh race. Which is the war chance stakes. Jose ortiz has the call. Tell me about star in my dreams. Well we were just hoping that it would rain. Come off if it if it doesn't look like it's gonna rain We'll take that horse to the indiana derby. So he probably won't run just hoping for rain. we're happy. I don't think going to get that. And i should say starring in my dreams. There are two. I ns in the middle there starring in my dreams Pointing to the indiana derby. You know dallas when you think about your two wins in the stephen foster and we just heard those clips coming out of the commercial break but macho again seeking the soul. I mean these were two horses that proved to be really really good. Did you know all along when i got him into your barn that you were sitting out some good horses with those two. Well actually macho again was a little bit tricky. He was kind of lazy horse. Wouldn't work that fast but he he I started running right from the get go. First time we ran him. I think he ran. Second maybe You know he was just very you know right spot on not in the morning but more so in the afternoon so Hey the almost be rachel. Alexandra don't forget about that. Great race motives rain which took down the rafters grad saratoga. That day on more jumping. It might happen but Anyhow that's right he was a real. Nice horse yeah. He was almost ad in the. I think it was was it the where the woodward woodward and he was a good horse and Thinking us all. I mean he was second in the pegasus. He came in though he was really fast He was the two year on training sale and didn't really get no no bids on so chuck capping and the guys liked him and send me meant to train and You know. I think he ran. Second the first time He didn't start. I don't know if you started at three or he started late too but You know he clicked it off right off the bat to also. Isn't that incredible. How many times did we hear that story. Dallas that horse goes to the auction ring doesn't attract a lot of attention and all of a sudden. They're a top class race for some units. That's an incredible story. Well he was one that He was a heavy breather. You know and the people that the to on training sales they all know any kind of believes in town and it may also scare. you know. it wasn't really a you know a choking sound but he made like He was just really just kind of it was kind of a really aggressive force and i guess he was just really into his breathing. Remind me a styling. I used to gallup styling. When i was working for wayne back in the day and he was like that and he never had a breathing problem but he would make some kind of noise a little bit when he was galloping but back to seeking the soul he was at the sale. And that's probably what scared everybody off so they did all kinds of diagnostic scopes and everything on it but it all proves negative. But you know the people just didn't want so he kept him and it turned out great for chuck in florida. Fantastic and joost island and other one. You mentioned that name. There's another horse that you know if you can look past the the the sounds that he's making when breezes and gallops then you know you get a pretty good racehorse yeah yeah listen we as trainers we don't wanna hear make any kind of cars. That was good stores. There's a hundred on horses. Believe do you ever go back and you ever go back and watch some of your your big wins and you know kind of pull them up on the internet and take a look at her absolutely. Yes that's what's your favorite little macho. Even though he got that was pretty excited. You know i it's Still kinda full my shoulders back a little bit thanking man. You almost might get there you know. It was pretty fun. Because she was a champion and You know limits. Wherever's just incredible to watch where she came from casts every horse and stay on and get that beat Get that win. Beat them all and You know the breeders coupling with her daughter you know that was pretty terrific You know there's been a few you know it's just enjoyable to kick back and watch from time to time when you think about the horse you know. Talking trainer dallas stewart here on the horse racing radio network dallas. Give me an update on one of your other. Greatest stakes winner some earlier this year. That's will secret what's going on. We'll we'll secret well. She's done pretty well. And she was third in the kentucky oaks. And we're looking at the indiana oaks for her. That's on july seven right plenty of action going over the dallas camp. Yeah yeah yeah. I like to see it. Brother glad that things are going well and good luck with that chess chief with all the contenders later. Today let's see if we can't punch our ticket to the breeders cup freising. Mike appreciate it. Appreciate it buddy. Dallas stuart here on the horse racing radio network and If i didn't let them go so quickly. I like to hit him up. Go steelers right before. I let him go. Big new orleans saints fan. is dallas in a rightfully so from new orleans should be in t- is really you know you talk about the consistency of a guy like dallas stuart in. Sometimes he flies under the radar. I don't think that you know he's not in the spotlight necessarily day in day out like a lot of trainers. But you look at his consistency. Every single year with his number of wins in the numbers stakes races. That he wins. It's it's consistent year in in your out. And i think that that's the feather in his cap that he can continue on being consistent like that. It's fantastic and my thanks to dallas and don't be surprised he has that tendency to pull a rabbit out of a hat just like his mentor. D wayne lukas. Don't be surprised if chess chief runs a big race. Under johnny v coming up later today time now for your ta spotlight segment. This monthly segment brought to you by the kt kt ob. 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Impressive i out maiden winner mainstay. A tbn rising star debut winners from a stern's first northern hemisphere crop. Second crop your links sell next month at basic tipton. Learn more about a stern in all the darlie stallions by visiting leeann america dot com. It's true and you are listening to h you're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network is love true scarring fraud. Does they turn into the stretch. Giresse recorded wanted one as an asset yet. Now he shakes up the reigns as they pass the three sixteenths. Paul a truce leading air by four. Then she daredevil body south. It's a truce go with the lead. Bonnie south moving up or the outside at the second truce ga hasn't won a tour of four airport. True scott one by three a mile and a sixteenth one minute forty one and one fifth seconds john embryo with a call that was the ogden phipps at belmont back on june fifth and it was a tour de force for your winter lotrowska. She really put on a show that day. Bunny south and she dares the devil. She handled all of them getting some revenge on she dares the devil who handed lotrowska her only loss here in twenty twenty one that coming in the very three starts back. It oakland park. Fausto gutierrez is the trainer of lotrowska and he joins me to go down the road to the breeders cup case. Time to go down the road to the breeders cup off. Well the truth go already qualified for a spot in the starting gate of the breeders cup distaff virtue of that by virtue of that big win at belmont park and fausto was with me now fausto appreciate the visit my friend always great to talk to you can do. The pressure is for me to be with you. man what a race she Ran last time out belmont Yes really she one nice fast. Think she's improve each race and now when we spoke before about she is. She's a horse with potential to to show that interest in things but do now. she's a a reality. no she's a horse. Two different tracks it jockeys conditions and all the time she improved on viva a nice show on a good for nothing seems to bother this mare. You point out the fact that she runs on any surface she has now one. Let's see is. I'm looking at it at gulfstream at saratoga at sam houston at oaklawn and she has now want at belmont to this rick she i raised she's poured. We got all the time with various patient corrective. Finally she's She's course to like to run is not important where these commentary go. Go be nice. And i hope to continue like this to try to have a great deal for she and now she's in the top one of the top of the division so now guys not cinderella joshi's Really hard to to now. He's got figures horses from the racism. I think she is the leader in this division. Fausto you had monoploy girl to contend with but she is now on the sidelines if she doesn't come back for the breeders cup then larussa all things being equal. She has to be the horse to be in that race. But i know there's a lot of ground to cover before we get to the breeders cup in november. How how beneficial is it for you to already have that. Winning your in breeders cup challenge race under your belt seem important because i understand who these racist to janine anina out of the the most off the dp shawna and how about benefits to win these racists an important and how she's improve improve each race do can t the times the speed numbers morton sheron me into a horse's to a big quality. No i think too in that moment is when the times are important. But he's not the most important the sunnis. How how the horses run here to do so nice. So hit at auckland in front of the memorial and the sweetest guy on how she five and how she she out the race. I understand to the. They're the real now or the really spatial forceful. She's she's very very special. Fausto gutierrez going down the road to the breeders cup with me here on the horse racing radio network lotrowska four to five on the morning line in today's floor. Delay that also a win in your end for the breeders cup distaff but as you just heard fausto talk about. He doesn't need the win in your in. He already has it but he would love to win the floor delay. She comes back on somewhat short rest. Fausto having won that race at belmont back in the beginning of june now here she is on the twenty sixth she hasn't worked at all. No published works sense that effort at belmont tell me about the strategy bringing her back in the spot. Okay yes race to. It's not already now not exactly program it but he's not not one of the how i explained you after she wants to build a good forum to she's right now. I nominate two weeks ago for this race. Even i wasn't arlington. Because they want a horror. And i remember today's the nomination for florida the list and they call to nominate with the idea to check the competence. And how does the race and to be present in debut when i in nominate i. So hush how she come back to the belmont and how she strain and how she's at the rate. Some issues complicate even to rain. In the mornings i decide tweets a moment to take a risk to twenty one days. Time with the horses inform. Maybe one week layoff of sixty days or the but when in my opinion when the horse ask you for garon it's time to run and these situations we'd see. Finally i got up to in one of the best tracks on the so. Why not eight seconds for six four. She's the morning line favorite. She asked to run. I understand to finally are racist and whatever it is supposed to happen. But i'm a hundred percent shoot to. She's reading on recovered after the bell. Look for these race. What do you think the key has been here in two thousand and twenty one cause she just continues to get better and better and better what. What's the secret for her to the secret to. She's more horse racing the in the real moment that when when she have five years is Some of the competence are have fought. you know. sometimes it's russian to the three to four bit complicated for someone. So i think she's. She's big she feel also happen. She her horns with better. We spoke about a when we remove the blinkers this another positive point because now she got more chance to relax in a real explosive. Not steve but now she had the chance to go around the other horses before the blinkered sheron absolutely in front time she because normally scenario the horses back to she now she got more control for the racists and she liked to fight and this is one of the important points combination with the real class is qualities to auto l. a. Truce very very tough. She has that speech. He has the tenacity. you hear. Fausto mentioned the fact that she loves a fight and She will not shy away from the competition if it gets tight down the stretch. There's no doubt about that looking forward to seeing her strut her stuff later today in the floor early. Fausto when you and i talked on my trainer talk program. We spent some time talking about the truce owner. Herman lereah who is He races under saint george stable but he has been a longtime partner of yours and this has to be special to do this with him kissing a normal like the horses and he's not happy with with these feely with today s. She's up. I onto the business for the races and buy some how breathe a lot of politics in mexico some well. Here's at kentucky and when you have these gain of very something someday from the chance to have these courses you know. I said earlier that he pulled off a feat that not many owners can say that they have done. He won a triple crown in mexico. Jeff's okay he's the of nerve. I'm breeded at mexico. We spoke talk about In mexico activity is smoking competition with the united states in mexico. Born to the hundred fifty courses. So it's one percent of the horses to burn here. Y- lose the quality for horses so so it's interesting. I think for the races when when have these courses likely to scarf she. She's second tokyo breath but finally she has started their career at mexico. And after come here it on all the the the biggest star to she finally she used to take the attention for the orders because he's showing finally when she run. Yeah definitely show. And and hopefully she puts on a show for fausto gutierrez and the connections later today you know when you move back to the united states and twenty nineteen fausto Could you ever imagine you'd be competing at this level so quickly. Really no even i. I'm a fan for the monem. Only for the skydiver because even mexico. I watched that is a nineteen december of nineteen. I go to the clips. Monday with fran and when more win three years champion really. I never imagined we run together to win her. I understand to. She's a real champion and she's a horse. We'd ib speak about one of the best in the history. It's a lot of things are she. Is that day. We defeat. Chee and i i i hope to do. We run a game together. More important to win or who i tell you. This is part of the racist. No that day we wind by knows like we lost by not sending these small mall these cells. How big difference. Magnum just knows difference between the truce gun amount of my girl in the apple blossom at oakland back on april seventeenth and if monoploy girl does come back and we know that she can bounce back quickly from any issues that she's had in the past and that would be one heck of a showdown in one heck of a rematch. I know that it would be great for racing. And that is something that Fausto i know first and foremost you want the truth. Go to win. But but you love the sport so much that that it would be great for the sport to see that rematch. Wouldn't it correctly you. Finally i repeat this def- ray. This is part for the racist. He's this is to make defense law because sometimes they are very nice. People tell to our just horses run around and run more win. But the person's to we like and we understand these we mow the sean and all the all the secrets and all the work and all the great history strut around racecourses. And we'll fausto listen. I'm so happy for you. And for the team and good luck with lotrowska in the floor. Delete and and moving on toward the breeders cup as well all the best my friend. Thank you for being here. Thank you thank you for everything again. All right fausto gutierrez going down the road to the breeders cup. Here on the horse racing radio network. Don't forget h. r. n. Your exclusive radio home for the breeders cup once again here in twenty twenty one. The only place. 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Without Remorse, Michael B. Jordan, And What's Making Us Happy

Pop Culture Happy Hour

25:09 min | 3 months ago

Without Remorse, Michael B. Jordan, And What's Making Us Happy

"Michael jordan's played a lot of different types of for the years. Sympathetic figures like wallace on the wire and oscar grant fruitvale station an underdog in the creed movies a swaggering antagonists in black panther. But this marks a new era in the makings of 'em. bj action star. The movie without remorse is the john t clark. Origin story follows the soon to retire. Navy seal character as kicks spot and takes names in order to avenge the murder of his pregnant wife. I'm stephen thompson. And i asia harris and today. We're talking about tom. Clancy's without remorse on pop culture. Happy hour at npr here with me and steven from his home in washington. Dc is writer. Chris clinic welcome back. chris. I thank you. I amazed to find selima completed. So i wanna wish everyone a happy day of the soul. Dotto wearing your mask and we'll celebrate together next year. lovely. I'm so glad we both do for this and joining us from her home in brooklyn. Is daisy rosario. She's an executive producer at stitcher with the show. Celebrity book club with chelsea devante. It's in its first season right now. Welcome back to you to daisy. Hey thanks for having me shop. So without remorse based on tom clancy's bestselling nineteen ninety-three novel of the same name and searches the origin story for john clarke an ex navy seal. Turn cia operative. It's directed by italian filmmaker. Stefanos selima and stars. Michael b jordan as john. Jimmy bell plays robert ritter. Jody turner smith is caring career. John's lieutenant commander and guy pearce. Is thomas. clay the secretary of defense the movie story make some notable departures from the book while clancy's novel was set in one thousand nine hundred ninety against the backdrop of vietnam conflict. This version is set. In the present day in cuss russians as the adversaries and jordan is the first non white actor to play john. Onscreen clancy originally the character as an irish catholic and was previously portrayed by willem dafoe and lee schreiber. I don't think it's a spoiler or a surprise to note that by the end of without remorse. It's clear that the filmmakers have every intent of telling more john clark stories in the future so it seems will likely be seen jordan in this role again steven. What are your initial thoughts on his action hero chops. Well i guess. I want to preface this by saying tom. Hardy has a very nice face. And yet tom hardy in movie after movie after movie insisted uncovering his very nice face with masks. He was bane in a batman movie. He was in the mad. Max movie with a grill over his mouth. He was in dunkirk with a fighter. Pilot mask on and you ask after awhile. Why is tom hardy covering his beautiful beautiful face. And i felt that way a little bit watching michael jordan in this but instead of the face. It's his charm. Michael jordan has an enormous electric reserve of charm that slips out in little tiny doses early in this movie and then is completely muted as he turns into a completely generic action star in a completely generic action movie. I had several moments in the somewhere. I felt a deep sense of deja vu. I feel like. I've watched this exact seen before. And then i realized i'd seen every seen before endless fight scenes that seem to be taking place behind a dust storm. You can't tell what's going on. I was frustrated by it. Because this is a film with a very very very good cast given a completely generic script shot in a completely generic way. I wonder how much of that is. Just tom clancy that. World has already been done so many times on film. So it's like you know we're we're rebuilding the story. That is already almost thirty years old and granted. It's a very different story from the original. But i can. I can understand your frustration with the lack of 'em. bj charm. Tom hardy i think actually was originally supposed to be in. This role. Wanted were a mask and they wouldn't let him at least. At least that was one of the reports. I saw like way back like years ago when it was announced so interesting. That you mentioned tom hardy. Daisy how do you feel about without and the michael jordan of it all. Yeah well. I mean before i fully get into that. I just need to acknowledge that it's amazing to have somebody else reference. Tom hardy when glenn's not here. So thank you for that steven. One of my favorite tangents that gone and i've been able to go on but i mean i would agree with that. My overall reaction to the movie was just kept going. I literally was saying this out loud just to my cat. It's clancy just is right like it just like you said it's like there. Are these very common plot. Points is like a conspiracy that leads to a conspiracy. I mean with the michael b jordan thing. I agree with your point about his charm. stephen. I think he's got this charm and i think that's part of what really really works in the creed movies. He's playing this action person in the sense that boxing and sports is action in its own way. And there's all this going on but you still get to see his charm whereas in this movie. He is a traditional clancy character. I think if you're hoping for something more because it is michael jordan and because it is this cast. You're not going to get that but not i. Don't see that as really a detriment of those people. I think they all showed up and they did the work. I think it's just. The combination is like not the most compelling combination. But if you are in the mood for tom clancy movie you will also have that it's scratched. Yeah trademark that. It's clancy chris chris how about you a boy. Nothing is more boring than consensus but this is a. This is a thoroughly middling entry in genre that i like very much when it's done well i'm going to say if you're in the mood for a clancy go back and watch the hunt for red october. Nineteen ninety because i mean that was the start of all of these. You know endless adaptations. It's still the one that stands out as the most distinct. Because the jack ryan character has played in that movie only by alec. Baldwin is not invulnerable. You know he is a bookish. Cia analyst who is not used to being in the field. The environment of submarines distinguishes it somewhat. It's one of sean connery's last great movies star performances. The only thing that distinguishes this without remorse. And i don't minimize this is the casting of michael jordan and jody turner smith. I mean having to black leads in you know long-established action franchise like this. That's very important and significant. I mean i wish the rest of the movie around it were better. you know. This is michael jordan's absolute coronation as a star. You know you reach the point that he has in his career and you get put up for everything. Whether it's you know batman or whoever and you understand why a movie star would want to have a reliable thing like this in their back pocket because they can make four ten more of these but As as you all set. I mean he does not get to show us even a tenth of what he can do in this movie. He certainly has the physicality of the athleticism. He's very impressive. In the fight scenes but consider something like john wick. Right where Ken reeves is playing a very similar character. A widower who kills one hundred people. We still get to see a little bit of kino's quirky in those movies. You know there's still. Some playfulness flattened out here. My favorite piece of casting though jody turner smith. I love her. This is a bit of a departure from reality because we we have not had any women navy seals yet. I look this up before we started taping. But it's going to happen. I am perfectly fine with that depart from reality. She is awesome. I love her. I love the dynamic between them. That's really the only thing that is at all distinctive about this movie for me. Is that that relationship between those two. I'm so glad you mentioned her because to me she was also the standout. She just has this way about her she. She's just a very striking figure to begin with an her hair cut very very short. So it's not like the fem but tough thing it's very like taking off the helmet to reveal mane of hair. There's none of that. She she is just very like she has very striking features and she has a way of starting her. Is that just like cuts three. You and i think really works well for this and also just hurt delivery. Her voices just like it's calling budda ben lake. She's also your commander and so she's telling you what to do and it's great. I do think that there are flashes of the michael jordan action star hero that i would want in this film even though i agree with you all that it is generic. I think there's a moment where he kinda gets to be a little bit more playful where he starts just like. He goes rogue modest whether to say that he starts going frigging rogue and he at one he pretends to be like a bum on the street with a brown paper bag to like some intel on this guy. He's trying to track. And i loved that scene in part because it showed him kind of playing along. Not being quite the you know straight on action hero but being able to sort of like go under disguise and maybe i'm reading a lot into this very short moment but i was like oh like i wonder if a white actor would be able to do something like that. Like would they do that in the first place it's playing into. I think all these stereotypes about black men and black men on the street but we might see but they probably we weren't trying to go that deep because the rest of the movie like his race has nothing to do with it. He's just like oh my. My wife was murdered. No not even just as wife his pregnant wife was murdered and now he needs revenge for both her and their daughter their unborn child. And i'm so tired of these narratives at least with like john wick. He's really avenging his dog's death. I could die as if like an illness. That's different yes right. Now i would say so michael b jordan. I've had many conversations with people who think he's hot because he is but that he's not a good actor I think kill monger really. Put that up as a discussion at least among circles that i roll in where people are like. He's not kill monger. He's not convincing. And i still believe he was good in that role. I also think that he is at his best when he is playing some a little bit more vulnerable and less of like going rube liam neeson type character. I want see him be charming but also see him like trying to overcome something insurmountable and here. It's like we know he's going to be fine. Because there will be five movies about this. You know there are moments here where we see that but overall it's not it's not happening for me. i think. Also part of his charm is not just that he's charming and good looking. It's that he's hot in the boy next door way. That's the lane that he plays in. But i think because we don't often say that as much about non white actors like we forget that that's kind of like the type of handsome that he is. It's more approachable like the sweetest guy on your street did real well after puberty. And you're just like you know what i mean like. Oh good god. How did these genes come together. I don't understand. I am blinded by hot. What okay who. Who is unapproachable handsome to you. Then daisy i don't understand you have set the bar kind of impossibly high for handsomeness. He's definitely boy next door. I will i will. Where do you both live say. What house do occupy who. They're not the same age but he does not give off what dress elba gives off for a. They're both charming a very different way. Like you know. That is interesting. Because i would have thought they were like just equally your comes to a point where it's like the temperature at which steel melts versus the temperature at okay. He takes off his shirt which he does a couple of times thankfully yes. That's true. But i do think that like the eaters. Alba comparison is good. And i also think that part of the issue is also that we've grown up with him. Yes the first time. Most of assault him was where he is like. Fourteen and scraggly and sad heartbreaking and heartbreaking and then he was a child actor and so that makes it. I think even harder to sort of make that transition from that to being this dude who has who has a kid who has a hit on the way and it is like. I'm gonna to my family and i think like when you're more accessible in that way i think that kind of that lack of personality in this movie and again this seems more like it wasn't necessarily written with the character having a lot of personality but otherwise like yes like he's buff and all that stuff but it's not the kind of place that really i think plays to those charms place to that whereas jody turner smith also to go back to. Chris was saying like i did love her. I loved looking at her. I loved that she was there. I mean i was just really into it. I was seeing her and not being questioned as a woman in the setting like it was just cool and she is she striking. I've i've seen her at like opening night of shakespeare in the park. And i was like i just couldn't stop looking at her from one hundred feet away because she is that striking. I agree that. She's very very striking in this movie. But really one of my big takeaways from this film was that a good cast is not enough and a lot of ways. I really watched this movie a little bit. As a thought experiment of like you take a completely generic movie directed generically written generically but put in a great cast. Can that cast make it something more than it is. And i just didn't feel like they did. I mean you have brett gelman awful dirtbag brother-in-law from from fleabag and he's onscreen for like forty five seconds you have colman domingo you got colman domingo to show for your movie and then you give them like two scenes and guy pearce who has played this part for hundred times very good but he has done well. I think if you're gonna say that without remorse is probably like a fine saturday afternoon. Watch because it's clancy it'd be airing on tbs or something like three o'clock in the afternoon on saturday so tell us what you think about without remorse find us on facebook at facebook dot com slash p. c. h. h or tweet us at p. c. h. h. When we come back it will be time to talk about making us happy this week. So come right back. This message comes from. Npr sponsor tele. Doc tele doc is here for you with twenty four seven access to board certified doctors who can diagnose and treat emergency conditions like sinus infections allergies rashes and more and tell the docs doctors can wear authorized call in a prescription to be filled at the pharmacy of your choice. Download the app today or visit. Hello doc dot com slash. Npr welcome back to pop culture. Happy hour it's time for our favorite segment of this week and every week. What's making us. happy daisy. let's start with you. okay. I mentioned on an episode of this show Weeks ago that. I was underwhelmed with rupaul's drag race season thirteen so much so that i stopped watching the season about halfway through because i genuinely found myself in a worse mood after watching episodes than i was when i started but i'm a complete east and i need to know things so what i have been enjoying. In the meantime has been watching. Recap i should say watching and listening recaps from bob the drag queen and monet exchange so they are both former contestants on the show. Bob the drag queen one season eight monet exchange was the co winner of stars four and they have a show that is just something they do all the time. It's called sibling rivalry. They have just such a funny great friendship. That really feels like they are siblings with the way that they tease and harass each other. It's really really fun. They talk about all types of topics and then once a week. They also do an episode called sibling. Lottery where they recap the season so even though i haven't been watching the episodes i've been listening to the recaps and they've been great. They're really fun and funny. 'cause it's so great to listen to to people who have been on the show who can tell you what it's like to prep for being on that show what the shooting schedule is actually like when they're doing those confessionals and things like that and they know how much money it costs to like creek colorado for the show and they just have the best best report so but if you want to know kind of what happened on season thirteen without putting yourself through the process of watching and overwrought and too many episodes season with poor editing Then you can just listen to sibling lottery with the drag queen and monet change. Thank you so much for that recommendation. Daisy chris what is making you. Happy was a bit of a double dip. Because my podcast in partner glenn has already plugged our show a degree absolute here but you all know how quickly things can change the doggy. Doug thunderdome of podcasting. So i have some exciting guest announcements we have already had alex cox the diy filmmaking legend the writer director of re bowman and many other films on our show to talk about the book he wrote about the prisoner. This is the exceptionally weird nine hundred. Sixty s cult tv show. That is the subject of our podcast. If you like stuff like twin peaks or lost you. You might find the prisoner up your alley in the coming weeks. We're going to have podcasting luminaries. Ben blacker from the thrilling adventure hour jesse thorn from bullseye. And the the whole extended maximum fund. Verse matt gourley from i was there to in superego and conan. O'brien needs a friend so But great guests are not enough. I think you need a song. You need a theme song. With incredibly specific lyrics that disposes with any kind of literary devices and just tells you very clearly what the show's about and who's on it an earworm fashion so with the assistance of my friend. Casey aaron clark. We made this happen there. Frequently done sometimes sued. There are always inadequate degree apps. They're bringing the right down. Tv so degree well collections. From patrick person it's no degree the to bre- that is my friend. Casey clark and a chorus of other. Casey errands clark and her brother. Jonathan clark performing a song that i wrote for our podcast a degree. Absolute check out our upcoming episodes with all those guests. Please thank you chris i. I don't know if that's the first time anyone's played their end theme song on here. But i love shameless. self-promotion the thunderdome tough world. Thank you steven. What is making you happy. Well for years. My favorite sports website was deadspin. A site that managed to mix sports and many many many other things that aren't sports into a kind of cocktail of just insight and weirdness and snark and great great humor and late in two thousand. Nineteen deadspin collapsed in on itself due in large part to a management mandate that the writers quote unquote stick to sports. Which is something that virtually no readers of deadspin wanted them to do and the site finally fell apart while in september. Twenty twenty most of the main staff of that's been started a new site called defector it is subscription based so you pay for it and just being reintroduced to some of my favorite writers people like david roth and drew mcgarry kind of expounding on not only sports but everything else in the world Has been just a true true joy. These are some of my favorite writers. They go on a great Circuitous length any number of topics especially partial to of gary's fun bag where he just answers. Random questions from readers. has become appointment reading which is good because we're paying for it but it is so to me. It is really really worth the money. Also drew carey and david roth host a defector. Podcast called the distraction. And i have to say. I was so distracted by hearing their voices. I'm struggling to get into it But just more content from these wonderful wonderful minds has been a great joy to mason. That is the website defector guys. I i have to mention this because it will be weird to not mention it. But i executive produced the distraction. And that's one of my did daisy. We do not permit self promotion. See it and i think that we were pretending no and drew and roth are just as funny and kind as you would hope they would be in real life. They're exactly those guys and as a huge sports fan myself. I was bummed when we lost deadspin because it was one of the only great sports sites that also talked to you like an intelligent person. And i think especially like if you are woman or a fan of some kind of other kind of not as treated well background for lack of a better way to say it like just good guys there on the thoughtful side of things so but yeah all this energy phrase imaginary friends well. My happy is a song. It's it's a couple few weeks old at this point. But i have been obsessed with it as of late. It is kiss me more by doja. Cat and says cat is has been problematic. But i don't care. I think she makes she makes bops and i bop to them and i just love. It's kind of a slightly happier and brighter song than says a usually does but she's still got that sort of stained her lyrics and her her singing style which i love and the video. Oh my god. It's like this candy coated confection in like sci fi realm with a really hot model named alex who apparently played nico kim in grey's anatomy and to me. I just love being able to see like two black women and then also in asian man. 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Equine Forum - December 19th 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

1:59:18 hr | 8 months ago

Equine Forum - December 19th 2020

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse. Racing radio network half thanked him. Don stake up. That's one by contacting gumede. The final furlong out the sixteenth bowl. Gumming john velazquez rolling on home to win the breeders cup. Filly and bear sprints all gonna mean welcome to the equine forum divert dixon outside the to the derby switched third thirty. Here's whitmore striding forward for the lead him. The final pumped up breeders sprints. What a day in the career abyss seven year old whip four a-rod ortiz. Junior pep won the breeders cup sprint. Now here's mike penna. Good morning once again. Everyone and welcome to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. This is the show that quite frankly started at all the show. That launched a network has to say mike baron on the backstretch with you for the next couple of hours right up until ten. Am eastern you of course are listening. Throughout north america on sirius. Xm to oh one on our affiliates in lexington louisville and across the country or digitally with our live streaming or podcasts of the show on our hr website horse racing radio dot net. Happy to have you along for the next couple of hours. One hundred thirty three days nine hours forty three minutes and wait for it. Five seconds until the run for the roses saturday i churchill downs in louisville kentucky. And did you know there have already been fourteen kentucky. Derby prep races run in twenty twenty fourteen. You might miss that eight in the united states six internationally. The most recent was yesterday afternoon in. You may not have been paying attention because it was a friday and it was at remington park in oklahoma but there was derby points race. Run yesterday and send your boost cadore which by the way means sir seeker was seeking remained perfect in his young career and he did just that in winning the springboard mile. Earning ten points toward a spot in the starting gate on the first saturday in. May he'll need a lot more than that and the waters will get much deeper for. Send your boost couture but the send a mine. Shaft is now a perfect to for to begin this young career. No horse that is running. The springboard mile has ever gone on to win the kentucky derby that certainly not the case for the los alameda futurity which is set to be run later today in california six kentucky derby winners have run in the low sale futurity and then on the next year to where the roses three of those finished. Second one finished third and was unplaced in the future already. Only one horse has won. Both the los alameda futurity and the kentucky derby can you name him. That's our trivia question for today show. Usually i do a poll question today. I thought it would be a fun trivia question. Who is the only horse to win. Both the los alamitos futurity and the kentucky derby. Let's see how many people in our nation get it right. I can take it a step further and say name. The horse that was unplaced. The only horse. Let's do it that way to all right. Let's let's have a little fun. Who is the only horse to win both below saleh meet charity and the kentucky derby and named the only horse to be unplaced in the future already and come back and win the kentucky derby the next year. Yeah that's fun to part question. They're the only horse to win. Both the los alameda sturdy and the kentucky derby and then name the horse the only horse to be unplaced futurity and win the kentucky derby following spring. Cianci's gonna love me for that one you can go to. Hr in twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. And let me know your thoughts. I'll pass those along later in the program. See how many people get that right. Today's field in the futurity is relatively small. Just six horses. And if history is any indication you would be very wise and we can say this about a lot of races including the kentucky derby by the way you would be very wise to keep an eye on any horses trained by hall of famer bob baffert and this year that arrow points straight at spielberg. Who was second choice at odds. Five to to. Bob has won the futurity a record twelve times there are there are trainers who work their tail off in this sport every single day and they would give their right arm to win twelve stakes races. Let alone graded stakes. Bob has won this particular race twelve times including each of the past six years. Now that streak that streak. It's not a chip shot this year for bob. That street could be in jeopardy because of the morning line favorite red flag who comes from barnard trainer. John sheriff's he throttled spielberg earlier this year. And they'll get a rematch in the grade to loselle futurity later today. That's race four on the card in southern california four twenty eight pacific time seven twenty eight eastern is when you can catch los alamitos. Futurity should be a good one. How about our old friend mack. Field remember him boy. what a career. It's been for max 'field already. The undefeated street cents returns again at the fairgrounds today in the stakes. He broke his maiden first out in september. Two thousand nineteen. He comes right back in the second. Start and wins the grade. One breeders futurity at keeneland. Everything is coming up roses from ashfield and that's exactly what his connections were. Thinking goes to the breeders cup juvenile in two thousand nineteen at santa. Anita get scratched right. Before the race with a bone chip he returns on may twenty third of this year to win the matt win at churchill. Downs great training job by walsh. And he would have missed the derby on the first saturday in may but with being moved to september because of the pandemic was one of the likely favorites will in june. Max 'field suffers yet another injury. This time a counselor fracture that required surgery. He's off the derby trail for the second time. Brutal absolutely this is a tough game. You better have your big boy pants on. If you're gonna play in this game off the trail for a second time. He returns today. We'll see him in action later today at the fairgrounds. And i'm going to talk with jimmy bell. Who is the president of us godolphin. Operation's he's going to be women coming up at eight thirty five eastern time to talk about the return of max field. Yesterday tim wilkin wrapped up a brilliant thirty five year career writing about horse racing for the albany times union. I believe it was nineteen eighty five the first year that tim started covering horse racing at other sports too in the albany region but he was so good it covering horse racing he worked as he worked tirelessly and he's been a a regular guest on this program the past several years. He typically joins us every travers morning and coming up at nine eastern. I'm going to spend some time with tim. Yesterday was his final day at the albany times union. I'll spent some time looking back on his career and listening to him share some stories some of his top moments. There have been several and really looking forward to that visit with tim. One of the classiest guys you're going to meet in thoroughbred racing too so that comes up at nine eastern at nine twenty. Eric camelback will be with me. Eric is the ceo of the national. Hp steve asmussen wrote an op. Ed piece that appeared in the december first edition of td and it involves racetrack safety. Not in the afternoons necessarily but during morning training. And eric's going to be with me from the hp to talk about steve's peace and share his thoughts from the horsemen perspective. And why this is such an issue so that comes up at nine twenty my first guest on the show kind of doing this in reverse my first guest at eight fifteen and just a few minutes is the husband. Wife team of ryan and andrew aggressive. They have started. Horsing julep racing club. And it's a fun fun venture. I'll tell you more about that. At eight fifteen or they will. It's it's really neat looking forward to that. Visit coming up in just a couple of minutes o. Rien and andrea aggressive coming up at eight fifteen eight thirty five jimmy bell from godolphin or industry star of the week comes around right right about eight fifty nine o'clock tim wilkin from the albany times. Union eric camelback from the bpa at nine twenty four roses bourbon segment in the second. Half of the program as well and special holiday. Treat for all of you looking ahead to Christmas which is coming up very shortly as we know. I don't back with more on the forum on h. R. airdrie stud cairo prince the leading third crop sire by number of stakes winners stakes horses graded stakes winners and graded stakes horses. He's also a top five general sire by the number of two-year-old winners so far in two thousand twenty and current crop of yearlings is his first conceived at a twenty five thousand dollars stud fee yearlings from cairo. Prince's fourth props sold for up to four hundred thousand dollars this year underlining his incredible commercial appeal at fifteen thousand dollar stands and nurses for twenty twenty one cairo prince's value in the extreme standing at airdrie stud think about it pie. This is joe. Nicholson during these difficult times. The team nicholson insurance agency. Since best wishes to all for good health we all look forward to better times ahead when this pandemic is behind us. But in the meantime we need to stay safe although the staffing nicholson insurance is working from home. Phone calls into the office or forwarded so that service remains intact. Customer service professionals. Continue to be ready willing and able to help you with your insurance needs whether it'd be equine farm home auto business or life. Several of nicholson insurance agencies. Companies are returning portions of auto premiums because of reduced travel during the isolation period. Which i think is the right thing to do. Please call eight five nine. Two two four seven zero eight zero. Nicholson insurance agency. Thank you the national. Hp is continuously working near protect the health and welfare of horses by advocating and funding research to help reduce quite injuries. Lobbying for national testing lab to oversee and establish absolute uniform laboratory protocols advocating for every track to undergo an annual independent surface assessment passionately. Supporting off the track thoroughbred retirement facilities and adoption groups and so much more see additional. Hp initiatives at national hp dot com racing fans. Don't miss opening day next saturday. December twenty six the day after christmas spectacular santa anita although there were still no public. Admittance you can watch every santa anita race free of charge at santa anita dot com slash live. And you can watch and wager it. I bet that's i dot com slash beck. Santa anita will present a total of sixty. Six on opening day highlighted by the great one. Run happy malibu. And two other great ones the la brea seven furlongs and for the first time ever on opening day. The american oaks milem one quarter on her tune in early on opening day special. I post time a tremendous eleven race. Card is eddie eleven. Am and don't miss track announcer. Frank mir ahmadi ahmadian. Tom quigley as a handicap. The opening day racist beginning ten twenty a m next saturday. For additional information please visit santa. Anita dot com. The steve asmussen. You're listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network and they are coming with a flurry of the quarter pole. Favorite trick has yet to start. His run. capetown is gearing up. he's five lengths away top for this threat and real quiet gets delayed on the outside and the entirely is under the weapons. Second kate town. We'll have to do more victory gallop at nine but real quiet about the poll. He's got bullied by to india. Charlie victory gallop still coming real worried. Victory gallopers toiling played. Wins the one hundred. Twenty fourth running of the kentucky derby welcome back to the forum on h. r. n. Kirk becker bringing them home in the nineteen ninety. Eight run for the roses. I play that clip because that was the same event the same year that i became engaged to my wife. Shelf got engaged with the kentucky. Derby a ninety eight real quiet went on to win. It was a spectacular day. A very memorable day for a lot of different reasons and i know that we could say the same for the husband. Wife duo of ryan andrea aggressive. Who are with me now. From horse racing club in south carolina ryan first of all a welcome you to the program will welcome andrea there with two. Let's start with ryan for a second. good morning. my friend thanks for taking the time. Good morning mike. Thank you so much. For having us on it's It's really surreal to be on his To be on the other side of the radio of after being a fan for so long and listening to all your shows. It's quite something well. I'm excited for this visit in andrea. Welcome to the program as well. i don't know did you guys get engaged at erasing event or was it a totally separate thing. I'll let andrea answer that it was a totally separate thing. But the special thing about our stories out ryan really pursued in horse country i think ever and when we were dating i think that was the first trip we took together. I knew taken. yeah fantastic. Aken is one of those places. That's on my bucket list. I've never been This past week. I had a chance to visit trainer ron stevens. Who trained in for more than thirty years in a train for dogwood and we'll talk more about him. I'm sure during this interview but Ron was just a fantastic guest on trainer. Talk this past week and ryan you were instrumental in helping me set. I can't thank you enough. It was my pleasure. I think I think the world iran. I think he's just phenomenal and love is stories. I love his You know just his personality and His craft you know and success with horses is has really been phenomenal and I was really glad to be able to connect you guys all right. So tell me more. And i'll just throw it to each of you and you can take it and run with but tell me more about horse and julep racing club. What is it. How does it work. How did the concept come about. Yeah i'll start Mike i I've been i've been a horse enthusiasts longtime celebrate enthusiasts almost twenty years now. I was one of those guys Mike that Spent more time studying. Pedigrees and racing forms in in my college classes than than textbooks however My background is primarily in in broodmares and matings and foaling and The racing element came along kind of developed a little later on and as andrew and i got married She came from a non racing background at also. I had my work cut out for me to to bring her along with With me and this. And so. I started taking her to some of these. You know places that. I felt like we're so special. I just wanted to introduce her to and so. Obviously lexington is at the center of that you would go and see You know mayors and foles that we had and and go see stallions and go to keeneland that we went to to saratoga race track. I mean sir. Togas just amazing Had a lot of fun in that community and go to places like ache in and Quaint little town even even places like gulfstream car in south florida. A lot of fun to offer. So i basically Tried to bring her along in in in in the they find experience element of all this and then from there Got her blessing to Take involved in some groups Some racing groups and we've done that and we had a little success But i will say the some of the things that we really wanted from that were Community and more that experience and we felt like that was an area that We we really felt like we could could offer more My background in our background together. We we love hospitality. We love getting people together whether that's here on trips Just r d in our dna and our life-blood so When we kinda had this crazy idea about a year ago and i reached out to fill haggar He's an agent kentucky. And i bounce this off of them a year ago last january and i said hey what what do you think about starting a group and and you know really want to build it around experiential and community and people meet each other and and have a lot of fun maybe even before the race the get to the races and thinking about how you could do that. I've always thought that You know a lot of the the best of the partnerships They they leave a lot on the table when they when they buy in in september and take them right to you. Know training center like ocala. 'cause you miss out in kentucky you miss out on lexington the bluegrass which is so and so We're going to back up and we're going to buy here in in january More the club this month We hope to have all the spots reserved by the end of the month here. And we're gonna form healthy and llc will go and buy january Feel is going to select those horses for us. And he is just phenomenal up and coming star He's just had great success. Worked under some phenomenal people like bill. Motte and you know other top. Agent's like Forgetting the names right now. But he's kind of worked at the success so we wanted to partner with just really successful people to give us the are group the best chance of success so the horses go from there to darby dan farm. I've got a relationship with them and you just wonderful see this vision in sierra passionate and said hey you know let your horses grow up here for the next you know for that. Six eight months before they go to the training facility in our partners will be able to go meet up there at some point Pending all this virus stuff. But we're we're planning to do that To get the partners together there and then from there they'll go down to south carolina to train We're hoping to get the partners. They're together as well. Wait this fall and do the same exact thing and have a great weekend out of it and we. We really excited to to put on some great for The the members before the horses even get to the races and then we've got obviously great aspirations for success there and diagnose great trainers defied that we to work with So mike that's really the the spirit of what we're trying to get through here andrea ryan mentioned that you were not into horse racing when he met you and i i read on your website. That your first intro into racing came about a decade ago with the queen's cup which is a steeplechase event held every year in south carolina Tell me a little bit more about about your involvement and what this rights been like for you. Sharon steeplechase the queen's cup in charlotte definitely and ryan and i are mutual friends. We'd gather there every year and every year. The girls hats are has got a little bit. Bigger each year We really put a lot into it. Just coordinating making it a fun time. and ryan would always take the lead and hosting and seeing his hospitality side. Come out One of the things that i was really drawn to him When we first started dating And i would make sweet tea. Mint juleps You know we just have a good time. Is it in by the way. I want to correct myself. I think i said south carolina that's held in is used at charlotte north carolina's where the queen's cup is But isn't that what at its core racing is all about andrea. We say that about the kentucky derby all the time that the fact that you can go and get dressed up and put on the big hats and guys can put on the finest coats and ties or you can go into the infield. Just hang out with a short not shorts and tee shirt. Whatever it is that. That's i mean to hear the way that you've gotten involved in what's captured you That's what the sports all about. Isn't it that's correct absolutely. Yeah and then. Addition you know to those races just the experiencing different cultures that these towns have offer where you know. I love to travel. I love experiencing different cultures and communities. And you know when ryan i were dating and his exposing me to these different communities. I learned that. I really don't have to go far. You don't have to go abroad to get An elegant experience you know and and try new foods and different people and see beautiful scenery. Yeah and it's going to be great. That people can experience this through the new horse in julep racing club. Which by the way if you wanna learn more You can go to horse and julep dot club that's horse and julep dot club and Check out the website. One thing ryan that. I told you that that really stood out to me when i looked at. Your website was the family aspect and i think that's going to draw a lot of people in Because of the fact that taken experience the sport on a bit of a a a different level they can do it together as a family they can do it as an individual and and they can be around your family and and go down this road with you guys. And i think that's fantastic ryan mike that is Something that we we definitely pride ourselves and we we just love. We love people. We let them of all all different Walks of life and that we actually have young. Kids yourself mike. We've got a four year old and a seven year old. And they love you know going to kentucky and they love seeing the horses and feeding some carrots and We you know we just launched this thing two weeks ago And we have been talking to a lot of people who this is resonating with and Some of the spots who that have already been taken Our our families with young kids and then got on the other spectrum. We've got grandparents with grandchildren. That are excited. Exposed them to this Sport and you know retirees that want to do this with with their retirement and then everything between You know people in careers professionals. So it's gonna be all walks of life and that's what we're excited about. People that have never owned horses before are signing up to do this which is really You know amazing that they're entrusting us with their first experience and then there's people who have actually been very successful in the game and if owned a lot of courses on their own and wanna do this because they want camaraderie and experience with people and community and we welcome all those people. It's it's going to be a lot of fun. And they are in good hands with your trainer. Phil hager to or bloodstock agent phil hager. Who is going to be over suing seeing things and picking out those babies and again partnerships. Yeah right now. Horse and julep dot club is where you can learn more or you can give ryan and andrea call. And i'm sure they'll be more than happy to answer any of your questions ryan andrea. Listen really appreciate the visit This interview like oliver interviews brought to our listeners by embrace the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle folks can wear what they love at embraced the race dot com and appreciate the visit this morning. Happy holidays and all the best horse and julep club mike. Thanks so much. And we're looking forward to that. I call for the interview after the first graded stakes adventure. Don't forget her number. That's exactly right. i'll be all over it. You got it ryan andrew. Thank you so much. Happy holidays mike. All right happy holidays guys. Yeah fantastic course and julep dot club a cool idea and we'll see how that plays out but it it seems certainly like this is going to be a big hit and i think you'll enjoy being involved with them. They're they're great people Speaking of great people it is time for your lexus. Legends of the turf segment. Brought to you every single saturday at this time by the lex historic lexington when i come back visit with jimmy bell. The president of godolphin's us operations and the president of the after care alliance. I'll talk to him about max field and about thoroughbred after care right after your lexus legends of the turf this lady had a wealth of character. A marvelous vibrant personality and she was indeed an inspiration to others. She was a lady through and through and the roaring nineteen twenties while still under twenty. She entered the world of racing as the owner of a steeplechaser. A racing stable brooke mead came into existence. A few years later she was at burst upon positi and great delight in needling and openly deflating and obvious inflated ego or infectious sense of humor provided her the tool for doing so especially in times of stress perhaps equally as synonymous with brooke meets stable and success. Where the names of precedent elliott burch. Who trained her horses. Preston began training for our lady of the moment in nineteen forty four and on october. Twenty first of that year he saddled her dear me for her in the maryland handicap at laurel. Dear me whip the redoubtable twilight here by seven lengths in that affair and that was virtuous first of a long long list of sakes winners. He saddled for brooke made birch was very patient with young horses and he and are subject. Probably receive more thrills from a horse named sailor than any other racing in her colors that was in the decade of the fifties while others racing in her colors included sword. Dancer bowl of flowers oligarchy. Her superb flower bowl won the delaware handicap in nineteen fifty. Six and on may second nineteen fifty. Nine sword dancer won the derby for her while on the very same day. Big effort won the better roses at the old jamaica racetrack on long island in one thousand nine hundred thirty-four our lady of the day as it were became the very first woman and american turf history to lead the winning owners list. Her bowl. flowers was voted philly. Champion of nineteen sixty and sixty one and sword. Dancer was voted horse of the year in nineteen fifty-nine. This marvellous lady dearly loved the thoroughbreds and among the many greats carrying her silks to the winter circle she considered her best to have been cavalcade sailor. Sword dancer and bolo flowers but she had a very soft spot for others including okapi songo and high quest and nineteen thirty four and sixteen years later in nineteen fifty brooke. Mead was the leading money winning stable in america from nineteen twenty five until her demise in nineteen sixty two horses one one thousand one hundred forty four races as previously indicated or trademark was love four and the ability to just with her trainers the virtues before big races she would often break the tension in the paddock by saying for example quote. Do you think i should put on the blinkers today or quote. Now you haven't put that saddle on right on. Her jockey would appear. She could be heard to say quote now. Preston you step back. I'm going to give the order on how to ride this horse today with a twinkle in awry of course and she would go on solemnly to say quote. You just go on out and win this race today. If it was muddy she would be quite apt to say now. Don't you dare get my colors dirty today. Yes this grand lady and that she was in every sense of the word through and through hell to the sporting ideals with best characterized racing to. It's very best. 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Nineteen seventy eight aboard affirmed and you are listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network bracing for the top of the stretch new york traffic. An pneumatic pneumatic tries to cut the corner off to turn. Traffic comes a little bit lied keys to hook up with free sixteen to go. Traffics in front max. Field is making progress here comes next field rallying boldly of the track near traffic wanders outside pneumatic digs and medfield continues to close traffic and max field pneumatic down inside. Max field is thinking derby win by a length. Running new york traffic pneumatic and attachment rate. Well that's the way it sounded. The last time. We saw max 'field on the race track travis stone. Have the call of the matt winn stakes at churchill downs. He was a winner that day after having the scratch from the breeders cup juvenile the previous year month before brendon. Walsh did a great job bringing him back getting him. Ready to fire his best shot he would have missed the kentucky derby had it been held on the first saturday may keep in mind. That race was may twenty third of this year. He would miss the derby if it was on. The first saturday may but would have being moved to september. Max field was among the favorites for this year's kentucky derby when a second injury forced him off the derby trail for a second time that's brutal. It has been a tough tough career so far for max fuel but with that said he so good and so talented that he is a perfect three for three and a grade one winner as a two year old and today he looks to get back on track and proved that he is still the real deal in the stakes at the fairgrounds. And that would be welcome news to jimmy. Bell who is the president of godolphin's us operations. He is with me now. Here on the equine form. Jimmy good morning. My friend always great to catch up. Good morning to you enjoyed here in that race car. That feels like we're back in action. You're back in action in a big way today. And you know i went through earlier in the show and i just kind of recap that very quickly there but this has been such an up and down career for max 'field and i can imagine this has to be one of the more frustrating scenarios that you've ever been involved with well frustrating. Yes but on the other hand It there's a sense of confidence because not too often or year round horse. It obviously shows the talents. Max fields had from you. Know yourself Breaking your first time out going right from there into a great one race And obviously have another time out coming back and off the off the bench in run a race like that in the met win. So i mean he's in three racist he shown so much that Even though it's been a long time between races know what you always hope for. I don't think once we don't question. Is this talent and for that reason. We're really optimistic and excited the same back in action and and more importantly as you earlier alluded The patients that everybody has shown especially brendan and bringing him back and Hopefully we're we're looking for you know very productive for your season with a full body of work that can maybe show The talents of this this cult time and time again. So very very you know. We're very excited to be back in here. We are ready ready ready to run in the afternoon. You know jimmy. I come at this from the outside looking in but you are obviously intimately involved with every move. That takes place with mac 'field and i talked about earlier in the program. I talked about that training. Job that brendan did getting him. Back to the races after being scrapped from the breeders cup in two thousand nineteen the breeders cup juvenile. Getting him back for the matt win but not just back to the races getting him back and ready to fire his best shot after all that time. Off and overcoming that that initial injury. How good of a training job was that by brennan. Well i think i think he I think you hit on the head. I think is his hole. Card is tremendous patience. I think he region horses very well. These the consummate horseman himself. So you know. He's been both on their backs. And on the ground. And i think he's got that that extra sense of of Communicating with horses. That he himself you know we'll get on them and he's got that feeling nose and He he really lets the horse sort of talk to him and tell him when and where and we were on the phone just the other day and he said you know we're gonna have to run. He he's figured it out he's ready We know there's still probably few cobwebs and a little bit rust on the wheel. But that was the case. Obviously in the matt win as well and You know it just takes probably very very counted individual to be able to Only physically be ready to run but mentally. Be ready to run. And that's something. We probably don't talk about all the time. It's the mental aspect as well and One of the one of mexico's greatest attributes is mental toughness and just how he is so professional in how he goes about his daily routine and i think it makes a little easier for brennan to re him because he's he's very genuine. He tells you right where he is. And you know you. You've got to be able to be picking up on. All the signs and and brendan does a phenomenal job at that. Take me through the past seven months. Since that win in the matt win at churchill jimmy one of these past seven months but like from ashville well again. You know the good news. Is that neither neither one of the new. One of the time outs were were really. You know truly significant and we just we did the right thing about the horse gave him ample time to completely He'll come back get back into his own rhythm. And i think that You know this this game is built on hope and and you know that if you just get the opportunity to get him back you'll take care of the rest or certainly that's our feelings and listen. Today's no easy. It's never an easy spot coming back You know you're in there with with a tough force from Steve asked me. You gotta always respect that. Then there's always the hard knocking old horses alcohol's dolls got a tougher locally owned So this is a great spot to come back in. But it's not an easy spot but there's also no easy spots when you're out of condition so you can't just exactly dip your toe in the shallow when you gotta jump in and see where you're at and You know we. This is the beginning. This is this is. This is just what it is. This is hopefully the beginning of an important Year racing for him. You were kind enough. Jimmy by the way talking with jimmy bell the president of dolphins. Us operations you were kind enough to join me on this show. The morning of the matt win on may twenty third and one thing that you spoke about was his pedigree and he is a son of street. Sense out of bernardini mayor. Now i know that that's a pedigree this near and dear to to darley godolphin's heart but that pedigree bernardini has become an outstanding broodmare sire. What he's accomplished at his age is is really puts him at the top of the chart of a broodmare sires. You know you're a long time to come. And i mean it's just amazing. You just be casual reading steak entries. Or the pee pees on horse a much as another daughter burned any. That's another daughter bernardini and You know what he's accomplished is is really phenomenal and You know how great it is to have. of course. it's going to pass them on. We always talk about sour sons of cyrus sars in the in the mail on but To be able to carry on and make no mistake. His impact. is a broodmare sire. We'll be significant for really really generations to come and and a foundation for a lot of operations of having those young bernardine mayors jimmy. The news came out this past week by the way. Good luck with max 'field later today. I'll shift gears on us here. The news came out earlier this week. That you were elected once again as president of the third red after care alliance and that's an organization that i know from day one has been near and dear to your heart Talk about the importance of after karen this sports. I know sometimes. I think that might get overlooked a little bit when we start talking about all the racing so tell me about the importance of aftercare. Well you know it does exactly you hit it right on the head you know initially for i think we started in two thousand twelve Initially it was about just awareness. Awareness awareness making people aware of the after racing. And what goes on or just stop that day and so initially that just trying to make people aware and then we moved into educating people and now under you know understanding more after you become aware of the educational process and today some eight years into it. It's it's now talking about in terms of the obligation. You know this is. This is not a this this part of owning a horse. This is part of Having the blacksmith come by me these are all taking care of. The horse is an obligation as well so this whole thing has been awareness education obligation. And it's it's not an easy thing. Keep drilling on. But but i think it's become a part of the Sort of a plank in the platform of our industry that i think the industry involved in industry collectively understands and recognizes you know the this is a major component of owning a horse in and what the industry is doing and have made tremendous a tremendous move forward in that regard. I mean if you look at the day we have i think. Eighty one accredited organizations in over a hundred and seventy facilities We've we've generated over twenty million dollars and probably assisted. I think that eleven thousand thurber so yes very very significant and You know. I think that that one of the great things about the third reich after care alliance is is that it's it's sort of gotten the good housekeeping seal when you're raising that kind of money people really wanna worse going. What is doing. And i've jokingly said many times i'm not sure how well we would do when they come to Inspect and accredit your operation to be able to become accredited by the ta. I mean there's an education component. There's go through the facilities. People literally go to these places and look at them and talk to him about adoption policies You know they have to be an operation three or four years before you can even apply to this thing so we've got the confidence of everybody knowing that this money is going where it needs to be which is always a question mark when you're when you're making these kinds of contributions but you know the ta has come a tremendous long way. We got this. This is this is a big big problem in something that we can't just sorta take lightly but it's you gotta you gotta keep gotta keep out for everybody's Perspective what are some of the things moving forward jimmy that you would like to see accomplished by the t. a. n. On the after care. Front in general. Well i think funding you know funding has to be and we've got to. We've got to continue to find ways to be sustainable. I mean we get we get some great spikes in some great Ha moments were gosh. That was great. Somebody stepped up or somebody this but you know this is an industry obligation. Initially when we set this thing up. We tried to make many small touch points as possible. You know at the sales at the racetrack here. There and yonder just a little bit but It it's it. It takes a lot of You know a lotta bookkeeping a lot of communication coordination and you know one thing that i'm excited about is a look at the board of directors and the people that are involved from You know from officials in racing offense to sales companies to people jockey club to know everybody's got some areas of expertise and skill sets. That have made this. you know. Very very Significant operation and to answer your question. You know we've just got we've got to find that magic way to to get this thing sustainably-funded it's it's it's it's very hard going back every time and trying to reinvent the wheel and we can just get some overall by end where people understand is one for all all for one That's where our sustainability comes from and it's all about you know continuing to to fund this. It's as you can tell with one hundred and seventy facilities. And i think this year we we handed rewarded or granted over three million dollars. That's a lot to do every year in. You know it doesn't stop. You've got it every year so it's not like it's one time off and we got that done it's continue. And now you get to work alongside my man. Jeff bloom to absolutely and you know and again. that's glad you brought that up. I mean john phillips was the past president. Everybody's had a real skill set that it's been at the helm of thing and and brought a unique perspective of what they can do. Well you know. Get jack wolf. Initially you know did a fantastic job. It was not easy to get this off the ground then knock came in for a brief stint and pulled up john phillips back again as i said you even step aside which king step away and now jeff is going to go to take over next year after after mass my year. And you know again. There's a guy that's very committed. He understands that he's been on the ground He's compassionate about it and he's got spheres of influence others of us don't and You know again. Everybody brings a little something to the table and very excited to have jeff onside and he's been a big supporter all the way through. Well you can go to thoroughbred after care dot org if you wanna learn more about the thoroughbred after karelian again. Jimmy bellwood made the president of godolphin's us operations and the thoroughbred after care alliance jimmy. You would be hard pressed to find somebody. That's a better ambassador for our sport than you. My friend and i've known you long time and greatly appreciate all your efforts and everything you do for the sport and greatly appreciate you taking the time this morning. Happy holidays my friend bo. Same to you and what a great job you do kinda get a good message out this the other and listed it's It's an honor to be a part of this and Whenever little things we can do hopefully make a little difference but you know just pleased and privileged to be a part of it. Yeah thanks for the time jimmy. Merry christmas maybe you enjoy thanksgiving. Appreciate me jimmy bell here on the horse racing radio network fantastic work both on the inside and the after care side but you you want somebody to be a spokesperson for this industry and jimmy bells a pretty good choice. Yeah you'd be hard pressed to find a better choice than jimmy bell. 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And i love listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse. Racing radio network at the of these days is almost four on friday. Don't take some of our employees. I god this. Welcome back to the client. Corum on h. r. n. Trevor denman have the call of the nineteen ninety preakness the dogwood stable color bearer summer squall getting the victory turning the tables on derby winner unbridled. It was a tremendous performance. One that meant so much to kat and the people that caught campbell was around with dogwood. it was a special special moment indeed. And because of that. I thought it would be appropriate to honor longtime dogwood stable trainer ron stevens as our industry started the week. The segment brought to you every week by my good friend. Stuart morris who offers boutique full-service bloodstock operation. He wants to thank his owners his clients and his team. He knows his success is because of you and with multiple stakes horses over the past several years that include henley's joy our brain trust malagasy and south bend stewart. Morris is your source for success at the highest levels and you can visit stuart and his consignments at all of the major sales which will be coming up shortly. No doubt about it Stewart does a fantastic job So ron stevens train for cot campbell and dogwood for thirty plus years and it was a wonderful relationship. Ron has done fantastic work. And he joined me for the full hour on trainer. Talk this past week and you can go back and listen to that show presented by phasing. Tipton you can listen to it on our website. But he's done such great work that i thought it would be cool to cut out some soundbites and a that interview and play it for you. Here ron stevens. Our industry star of the week he started looking back on that performance and that talented colt named summer squall. Well i'll tell you what just listening to that stretch again. Like i have a thousand times. Still gives me goosebumps That was that was pretty exciting and You know cut had done a fabulous job of getting started with syndication but that really put him on the map. That was a real summer. School was a stamp of you. Know really making his mark and of course. Ah just boil over and help me out too so Yeah great memories We were talking about getting day and when we came to summer squall came day. Could there'd be broke. We bought him out of the summer sale from will farish and He was handful. He was a kind of an ornery little cuss but he was an athlete. And i remember back on the catalog page. When we looked at him. I had written some things like little small steady Didn't have the head instead. Is we used to call them. I guess pig is but now we call them summer. Squall is but he's a very intelligent cope but he was a little anri side but I've had big letters on that page athlete. He was just so athletic so quick. So light on his feet that he really got your attention to get but he handful and We rent him in trials here. And i'm the only trainer that got beat the two year old. He was five for five ending up by winning the hopeful but Neil howard who trained him was very kind. He's told people rounded sent him a baked cake and all they do is take him out of the oven which was You know help me out a little bit too. So i appreciate that. Neil and i are very good friends that have been for a long time. He's a great guy. Great trainer the summer school kind of put us on the map. And as you said got redemption for the kentucky derby. I i was there. I thought he had one but i think the crowd and some other things got him but He came back in redeemed himself. And of course the jim beam the bluegrass hopeful. Toga special and i don't think he got enough credit to stay in a lot of people know that he produced some nice mayor's broodmare sire but He also produce charismatic. You know And everybody remembers him. And what happened. At the belmont with chris hanley but And of course he has runners to like of course storm song. We picked her out at a september yearling sale and she would be a champion and wanna breeders cup up in canada so yeah summer squall will always have a big suspect in my heart. Who's the toughest horse that you've ever been around. Probably american donna cokie One of the first people that go to england and get some horses like dominion. Who was a nice day course and everybody started doing this so he went to had a doctor. Veterinarian go to argentina we bought two phillies up here. Face on and donna cocky There's a dna people don't remember but she was a nice mayor. She won the chief. Kid bay But a funny story at the farm it was just before we came back and i had a policy that when the horses came in we wanted to get their temperature check him out and i also had a policy that i wouldn't ask my groups do anything i wouldn't do so when the groom came up and said I need your help getting the temperature of this there. I knew something was up. Especially when i saw the other grooms huddle around. They're probably waiting to see me. Get kicked real good. So i walked up through the saw. I put my hand on her head. I ran up ear. I said hundred degrees right on the money and i turned and walked away The next morning groom couldn't catch her in a stall. And i went in and she wheel and fired with both hind legs and i grabbed some bars and hung like a monkey and she kept firing and then she looked at me and adjusted a little bit fire some more when she got tired. I dropped down and got out but she was very very tough way. The veterinarian never got a cassock separation on her before she raced Very never got high shoes on her at the farm trimmed. Her myself And when the bed header tranquilized as much as he could with straw bales behind her and tried to catholic. She's kicked those bales around like they were to fix so and probably the funniest story i remember was when she was racing after she had won the sheep's head bay cotton i. We're up there and we were getting ready to leave. Even walk down the shed row saying goodbye. The horses and As we walked by she charged hit the webbing and our teeth snapped. Sound like a rifle going off. And i didn't even break stride. He just kinda looked at her. And said we'll good buddy you don and we just kept on walking now. I will say that we bred her a couple of times and as a broodmare. She met her that she was fine but she was one tough son of again all right. Let's flip that around a little bit. How about the horse. That you would say was probably the most perfect young lady. The most perfect gentleman that went on to maybe do some really good things on the race track. I'm gonna have to switch from dogwood horrid. I've had wonderful class fantastic lance over the years and and one of those was mr net evans springhill farm and we had the pleasure of Having a horse that actually got a reputation for not being gentle but he was falsely accused. Snow be quality. Road road With a fantastic racehorse made over two million dollars and should make way more than that. But mr evans had he usually sold most of his coal to catch his phillies and at the sales that commit they he was having me look at most of the yearlings. And kinda give him an appraisal. What i thought and i love. This cold is big strong. Nice looking coat with kind. I and i said you know. I really like him. I wouldn't give him away. And he did our na him in september and kept him. He came to me on the first in november and he said now. I want you to person his co. 'cause i'm going to i i really wanna get rid of the cold so i'm going to put him back in the keeneland two year old sale. I said okay. I looked at the big colts already november but we went to work and he broke like a just like a puppy dog. This never took a bad steph. Never anything wrong perfect in the gate and when we started galloping. I saw the move into this cold. I told mr evans I'm not sure you want to sell him. You might wanna hang onto him. Well he said. Oh no no i want to sell him. And i trained horses for mr evans for twenty years. And he was a man when he made up his mind about something that was always going to be. And you didn't change it too often but Chris baker became his manager back about that time. And i got him on my side. He's so i'm training love to ganged up on him. And said are we really think you ought to keep this cold and to his credit and we were probably partly lucky to he kept quality road and that was the last really nice horse that he had He wanted to florida. Derby was a favorite for the kentucky derby or co favorite and then got a quarter crack. His reputation came up as big. A handful was that the breeders cup where he was like co-favourite for the five million dollar race and just before the race the Tv helicopter came out taking pictures and he got a little bit rattled. And i promise you that. I swear that they give him thirty seconds to settle and just to walk them in the circle the headed and he would have been fine because after that race todd pletcher. Who had him and trained him School him he never did anything wrong in the gate again. He ran many more times. Never did anything wrong and again but they were in a hurry. I guess they grab even twisted it there and through a blindfold on him and they had twelve hundred pounds of muscle. That said no. You're not going to make this happen. So he got a reputation of being a bad gate horse which he was not he was one of the easiest. Nicest that i've worked with Just a couple of the fantastic stories. From ron stevens longtime trainer for dogwood and as you heard him say other clients as well in south carolina. Run our industry star of the week in that interview in that segment. Brought to you every saturday. By stuart morris gonna get to a break. When i come back hour number two. It kicks off with tim. Welcome from the albany times union. Eric camelback will be with me. From the hp a to talk about steve asmussen's op. Ed that appeared in the december first. Td end so a lot of things to get to in the second half of the show. That's all the head right after we pause ten seconds for station identification. 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If you any portion of the first half of the show you miss jimmy bell with a sensational interview. Talking about max 'field a thoroughbred after care. That's something you want to go back. And listen to the industry star of the week. You just heard ron stevens and ryan and andrea greg with of the horse and julep racing club talking about that new concept and launching those partnerships head back over to our website if you missed them horse racing radio dot net a podcast of this show will be available after we finish up at ten o'clock eastern Horse racing radio dot net and horse racing radio network on apple podcasts throughout eight trivia question for you today in honor of the los alamos futurity which would be run later today in southern california and six kentucky derby winners have run in the los l. futurity and then gone on of course where the roses the following spring. Only one horse has won both races. Can you name him. Can you name the only horse to win. Loselle futurity and the kentucky derby can go to hr n. Twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. And i'll pass along that answer and all the correct answers later in the show. Second part of that question of those six three finished second one finished third. Of course he had the one winner. One horse of the six was unplaced. Only one finished off the board in the los futurity and then came back. The following year to win the kentucky derby. Can you name that horse so to parts of that question and you can do it on our social media pages at h. r. n. on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook. Well i told you that the second half of the show was going to kick off with a very special interview tim. Wilkin has had an unbelievable career covering thoroughbred racing. Thirty five years with the albany times union. That career came to a close yesterday. But i thought it would be appropriate before he introduce you to tim to welcome him by looking back on. Well kind of where it all started their goes chief's crown gaining ground fast account with mccarron on the rail. She's the favorite now moves. In the second gaining garland the center they approached the topless wrench. It's cutlass reality. On the rail on the outside chief further out there goes creme maple on the rail with bin chi stephens out. See she's crown reality stephens honestly on the real honestly all rail pincay now gains the lead on the outside has sheaves crown and father out here comes cram past the eighth pole. His the entry of what he savings. Creme fresh maple seven with pin chi. She's crown third home. Fresh on the outside has a lead by steph impression from well that was the nineteen eighty five travers. Stakes and tim wilkin. That's where it all began for you. I know you've covered the travers every year since and it's been a magical ride really appreciate the visit my friend. Hey mike thanks it. Awful lot for that Yeah i don't know whether years though the only the good part is still cover racing for the paper. Yeah it's great to have you still involved. You're retiring from the times union. You'll be able to stay involved with thoroughbred racing which is great news. Yeah and And i'm not going to give the answer. But i think i know your question for trivia questions. Yeah you'll have a tweet to me. You ought to respond on the twitter and say yeah i. I'll do that. Yeah i don't know where the thirty five years have gone. I mean it's just Data like yesterday. I was Going up and just trying to find my way to the saratoga press box for the first time. And you know i i mean i. I seven years in the business. I was working for the sarah token newspaper. So i've actually had forty two years of of saratoga coverage in this seems it's my boggling to think that it's thought that law maybe it doesn't feel right doesn't feel like it's been that long but yeah so and here we are. Yeah you know the the call we just heard. I think i said chief's crown travers. That was your first travers eighty. Five that was creme fresh winning the belmont stakes and eighty five. But that was the year that you started tim. And when you started in eighty five did you ever imagine we'd be sitting here in twenty twenty and talking about you wrapping up this career at the times union. All these years later that back then. I was just hoping that if eighty five i was keep i never had any illusions that I'd still be doing this long. But i guess i'm like a river. I just keep moving when you think back on these thirty five years and there was a a piece that appeared. I think it was in the albany times union. I saw it on twitter That had you looking back on some of your top memories not just with horse racing but the other stories and people that you covered over the years. What are some of the things on the racing side that truly stand out to you lawyer. I could probably talk to you on that until opening day at saratoga There's just so so many obviously covering saratoga is just not only been a pleasure but it's been treat to be able to go up there every morning. Which is the best part of the day for me to to the in the mornings and you know watch workouts. Talk to trainers when i started. I'd be out there. Listening to woody stephen sitting on as poli telling every day that the end of conversations that wanna remind at one five months in a row and was always special talking to what he talked to the d wayne lukas in his office. wayne with tell me that He'll yet he had Not shutters but Yes you even have as windows shut. So no one could see in but he said that he could see out. He was always telling me when he saw me he would allow me to commend because he liked me. And that only you know resonated with me that you know i got the respective someone like him and just down the road from him it. Oklahoma traded trans nick. Zito always had plenty of great conversations with saint dick and You know and still do to this day and the list goes on and on with the trainers that i've talked to when you know i've gotten a relationship that bob baffert helped up my calls and so you'll talk about everything ranging from you. Know his horses to his His you know his critics and and also the people that With all the problems with the positive. He's very spend very frank with me about that and again and the horses to i mean Who would love to be able to do what i do. Be able to go out there and see these great animals Perform in the mornings before they look at the work in the afternoon. You know rachel. Alexandra a sheet or pops up as one of the most impressive ones ends yada during the breeders cup. Though when you're able to see her and listening to john sheriff's tell the great stories about yada You know i could name poor at this year with skydiver I got to get up close and personal with and she was. She's just inquisitive friendly animal. Who's just a beast on on the racetrack. So you know i. I just can't You know tell you. How grateful i am that i've been able to do all of that. Does the same with tim wilkin. Who as you heard me say wraps up a thirty five year career with the all many times union. He'll still continue to cover racing. Which is great news for all of his fans out there and there are plenty of those tim last year. You were honored with the walter. Hate award from the national turf writers. Broadcasters that's a prestigious award that Honors career excellence in writing on thoroughbred racing. What's the there have been several pieces that you've written that will resonate with people but how about for you. What's the one or two stories that you have written over the years that are going to be among your favorite stories boy. That's a loaded question right. There might Scrap answer that. I'm going to answer it in a different way. Maybe just chronicling different events Obviously the the Triple crown runs of Justifying especially american farrell. Because farrell is the first one that did it since a firm that was those are magical moments for everyone that follows thoroughbred racing and everyone that covers over racing. Because i've been to a you know a handful of a bunch of those Belmont stakes were the triple crown. The line and there was so much in patient saying this year filing be year and never was you know what the likes of funny cide. Kroll and I mean easy. Goer beat sunday sunday. silence In the belmont there was just so many of those moments that you know you would be. The people were waiting to explode. Elmont park to welcome the next triple crown winner when it finally did happen. Roar at belmont park with ferrell was bounding down the stretch. That day was something that i never. I never heard sound like that and it was a and that's an outdoor Place i mean. It was just a celebration of of finally getting triple crown winner. And i mean the the noise level at saratoga when rachel alexandra the voice of the woodwork in two thousand nine that was That was another home in Forever remained in my mind. I my is special. You know that You could be basically you really could hear the rafters shaking. When she won that race. You know those are the things that You don't forget and Now i hope i have a bunch more memories like that to to to Experience but no so far. I mean there's been so many of them. I remember doing stories leading up to triple crown rods and talking to people Failed you know. And how they what their emotions were like. I mean i did that before I did it before justifies crowd. Talbot wait. I think i did it before. Farrell's triple crown win. And then and i did that You know it seems like every year and another story to just recently is the exploits of Tis the laws goes up are parts. it's Because the local ownership with toga stable and the act older was a big story around here. You know covering barkley tag. A daily basis is to me a very very much an enjoyable experience in You know i. I hope he Obi rebounds from the breeders cup runs big pack of your. I referenced the piece. That and i believe it's in the albany times today. Tim was it yesterday Talking about some your top memories. i think it's online now. Okay final column supposed to here tomorrow. and but i guess basically. I'm i guess i'm still going to have i do year end stuff. That's going to appear next week so some people. I think i'm lying. When i say i'm leaving because my pick my my violent will be in the paper next week but rest assured after that you won't see me for a while until the horses the till the spring probably as excited to to do the interview with you but one of the pieces that is included in that online feature about your top moments is a chat that you had with your longtime friend. Mike jarboe who worked with you at the albany times. Union mike is no longer with us. He passed away but when he retired in. Two thousand fifteen. You sat down with him for a question and answer that had to be. I can imagine one of the more special things that you've done looking back on the fact now that that makes no longer with us it was. It was mike and i had a really good special relationship and We you know we did this thing. Every summer in the in the paper was just back and forth doing the bankroll beatdown every day and it became pretty popular people hated or loved it there though in between with mike was a good a good character who had no problem laughing at himself. But you know he He relished the idea of being able to be made fun. Of which i did on a daily basis and those queuing as that i that i did too i did with him. It's something i would do on a regular basis. And i did a lot of with racing people africa zito. D wayne lukas. Todd pletcher chad brown. I mean just about everybody jockeys to you know and i just decided. I think people were giving me their time. You know covering racing especially in the morning was not going to cover baseball or football or your window locker room and talk to the players after after their games after a practice. I mean you're out there in the mornings. They're working and you have to work around their schedule and that's one of the things i wanted right away. You talk to them when they're ready to talk to you unless you're jewish you just up and say i'm ready to talk to you. let's go that's That was the things she had to learn. And it's you have to have a lot of patients to cover horse racing. And i think i've learned that pretty well. Lemme there's gonna be a lot of people in the capital region who were going to miss your your articles your columns your insight into two different things but in horse racing were very blessed. You'll be able to continue covering it. I look forward to when we travel again getting back out. See you at the races and You know looking forward to seeing more great stuff from tim. Wilkin up over the next two years As we we continue to watch you cover racing but man. Congratulations on unbelievable career. Thirty five years in the albany times union is certainly very special and really appreciate appreciate the visit here this morning. Yeah i appreciate you. Give me the time to have this visit like. I've always enjoyed our time when our paths would cross especially when We would be on the air on travers. They always have fun doing that. That'll continue. Yeah you're spot is already reserved. It wouldn't be travers morning without tim. Wilkin why appreciate your saying that. But i think it probably would be. But i appreciate the sentiment timmy. Listen i appreciate it buddy. Have have a great holiday and Again thanks for being here this morning. Mike thank you and happy holiday to you yours. Tim wilkin that interview. Like oliver interviews brought to you by embrace the race. The apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race dot com so cool that he's going to be able to continue covering racing for the albany times union. That's part of his deal as he walks away after thirty five years and Yeah really does a fantastic job. He's dedicated and to his. Writing is just so much fun to read some great stories there from tim. 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You're listening to the equine on the horse racing radio network damning here and being put them put me in the hall of fame in this class is putting my parents in the hall of fame and everything. My father did was never a look at me. Never an award for it but is the definition of man and are we're standing up your means celebrated and honored for and i think this is definitely for you that thank you forever. You always done for me in your family. That's an emotional. Steve answer as he was inducted into horse racing hall of fame in two thousand sixteen. It was a very special day. We were there providing that coverage here on the horse racing radio network and Yeah that was. That was a special moment for steve for his family. And only dale baird has more victories in thoroughbred racing than steve asmussen and on december first steve wrote a piece in op ed to the thurber daily news and involved the issue of race track safety but not in the afternoons in the mornings when trainers are sending horses out for their morning works in their training sessions and to help me shed more light on that. Is eric camelback. The ceo of the national hp. A eric good morning appreciate the visit. My friend hey. Good morning mike. Yeah very glad as always to be invited to get on the show and You know just always appreciative of what you do for us. And and thanks for having me on. Well steve piece Focused as i said much more on the issues of tracks limiting are dictating when a track would close the surface for morning training and and basically take a day off and as we know from reading through this piece. In hearing steve's fahd's on it that's something that can be detrimental to the training schedules of horses and ultimately the health of horses. So tell me a little bit more about this This op ed. That steve rowe. Yes no i. I and i certainly don't want to speak for steve. But we were able to have conversations before he put this out there and getting my opinion or giving him my opinion. I just really am passionate about the same thing he is. And that overall picture of equine health and safety needs to incorporate professional horseman trainers that. Marion's that take care of these horses every day. And you know that got pinpointed into something very specific for him. And i've had a tremendous number of calls since his op. Ed from other trainers that really again. Seeing this this short-sighted cost cutting move that that's being portrayed by race track ownership some racetrack ownership groups. It's not healthy for the horse and it's certainly not allowing trainers to do what is in the best interest of their horse and i also had a numerous calls from owners that to be honest. Had no idea right. They were not aware that they had policies being dictated. And i think the one thing that i wanna make sure is clear. And i think steve would too. It's not about not giving a horse that a day off Imagine there's too many horses out there that don't have a scheduled walk day but at the end of the day that needs to be scheduled by the professionals taking care of the horse. I mean right. Now we're in a world of scrutiny and doing what's best for the horse so if you in essence handcuffed professional trainers and say we're gonna take this day off and it doesn't matter What your horses schedule. Is that presents a problem to horses. And you know being able to to then go in and have dr hawk talk about something that i that i had mentioned. to steve. You know in my day on the race track in louisiana growing up. When it's hot we always had issues with forces tying up. I mean it was a big. It's a it's a problem. I mean it is and that was something that i was glad. Dr hawk agreed with and certainly really drew down the veterinary aspect These horses need to get out and exercise and to have a mandated day that that oftentimes doesn't take into account weather You know if you have a horse. Scheduled to to breeze on sunday The weather's not good but you're you're mandated. Day off is monday Your your entire schedule for that horse gets thrown off So i think it's important that if you really look at the overlying picture of what steve's trying to convey it's not just about the day off that's being mandated it's about the fact that many of these ownership groups are continuing to dictate What they consider safety measures and ultimately not taking into account other opinions such as horsemen Such as veterinarians. And i i would i would venture to say there's several superintendents that are out there. That would also maybe not on the record but say you know a day off for the racetrack. Sitting idle is not good for the racetrack So having the ability to to work the racetrack is extremely important. I say many many times. I've said you know a racetrack as much like a plant it is completely Affected by the weather and ultimately if you're not there to take care of it something's going to go wrong and if something goes wrong with the track we've seen it. Horrific ways is something goes wrong with attract. Something goes wrong with the safety of our horses. Will you know. Here's a point that. I wanna make eric what what happens. And i want to ask you the second question here in a minute but in terms of a lot of times when we start seeing horses get ready for the kentucky derby trainers will base the final workout or final couple of workouts before the derby on the weather conditions and say for example. A track is closed on a tuesday. Let's just pick a random day. They're closed tuesday. That was a day that the trainer was going to have this horse. Work for any big race doesn't have to be the kentucky derby all of a sudden. They closed on tuesday so the horse can't go to the track that day wednesday. There's a deluge of rain. The track is a c- a slop. The trainer says okay. I can't train today either now. You've gone two days without getting your workout in and you have to come back the following day assuming that the track condition is good. Or you're forced to work over that sloppy racetrack. Which a lot of trainers don't like to do is that really. At the core a scenario that could play out they could be very very detrimental to horses themselves Well if you go one step further with your analogy or they skip the race. You know did that. That's get racing secretary involved in this and you talk about horses scratching because they can't do their scheduled workout What i see is the core of this being that the health and welfare of the animal is being able to train each day. But yes when you're scheduled to go into a particular race like you said it could be a great at stake. It could be a maiden special weight if you get thrown off schedule and you're not able to do what is in the best interest of the horse and the trainers opinion right. We're entrusting these trainers to take care of the horse. Get them to the races and get them back home in their stall safely. If they're not able to allow their protocols and regimes they may skip race. They may have to scratch from the race. They you know certainly don't want to necessarily work in the rain or or you know. Have a horse go over a track that they've determined you know you know before the break the track's not great. I'm not work after the break. You know oh. Yeah by the way using your analogy. Wait a minute attracts closed tomorrow. So that's not even an option. Do you force their hand to to make them work again. Not in the best interest of the horse so you know it is a core problem But also going one step past your example. Is they scratch. You know if if they can't get that work in if they can't follow their pro their their schedule they may have to scratch and the horse doesn't make the race and then we gotta go away. Who knows how long to wait for another one so young. That point is bad for the owner. It's bad for the betting public because it's a shorter field for the race track because shorter feels don't generate as much handle it it. It's a whole trickle down effect and this is you know kind of something that a lotta people didn't even know what's going on myself included. I didn't know so many actually. How many tracks are instituting. These policies are so. I'm not going to get in that political Corner right. Now we we're doing our best to investigate survey find out exactly the ownership groups that are putting this mandate together but there are quite a few And that's again. It's it's actually been a concern before steve Greatly put up his op. Ed it's been a concern but again when you have A hall of fame trainer. Speak out on something like this. Then you again. Using a trickle down terminology then you start to see. Wait a minute. I i agree with that. And you you get a lot more hands raised and you get a lot more heads that pop up and say as you did. I didn't realize that was going on and again i. I've had owners friends of mine that called and said i didn't realize that was even an issue and it is But they're not gonna pinpoint the tracks and steven. I actually talked about that he was. We don't want to name tracks the end of the day. It's a policy taking care of the horses and we want everybody to take care of the horses. I and that's a lot of different firms. Yeah without naming names. There are several tracks instituting policy. Such as this. Yes okay all right. We have about four minutes left by the way visiting with eric. Camelback the ceo of the national hp Eric there was a second op. Ed that i want to talk about and i didn't tell you i was gonna ask you about this so if you're not prepared to talk about it let me know but it was called. Where are we going from here. And it was from leroy guests men who has been a guest on this program many times. He is the president and chairman of the board of the national. Hp pa what is that piece about an what does that focus Well thanks for for asking Ultimately i think everybody knows the situation that we're in right now. The continued struggle With the horse racing integrity and safety act Is it the thing to do Is it not the right thing to do Should there be a federal oversight for horse racing and medication and testing program But ultimately this this piece from leroy drew down on the fact that what is it that americans hate most about politics The fact that things get pushed through things get prioritized by elite and money and ultimately don't have to go through proper procedural protocol And so when you really look at haifa the legislation. i think. It's pretty obvious that it's been delayed so long. There's a tremendous amount of opposition for it not opposition for uniformity not even necessarily opposition for federal oversight. There is opposition for the way. This current bill is structured. So what happens money and power. Get to sneak it in and so what what's going to happen. This bill has never gone through a senate committee. This bill has never been debated on the senate floor. This bill has never had a senate vote of voice vote Which there were senators. Promised that that would happen. And what's going to happen now. It gets stuffed into a omnibus funding. Bill that ultimately it's an embarrassment in my opinion of american politics and how things can work and not go through the proper procedure. We're all about having things debated organization out there that is duly elected board members. You know they're not they're not chosen. They're not appointed. They're not giving ten to wear on their lapel. They are elected by the members period. And we want fair democratic debate and this isn't happening and this is what americans dislike most about politics in america and it's happening right in our industry if the majority speaks that should be the end of it and if and if we're not in the majority we understand that we live it on the a rci level all the time we make cases we present our case we present what we think is the facts if it's voted down. That's it we move on. This bill is not even getting that opportunity money and power pushing it through on something. That's tied to covid relief when americans are needing the most. Nobody's gonna willfully and certainly vote no against something. And that's what is happening with this bill. Most likely i. Where are we going from here by leroy. Gasman you can read that op ed. You can read the steve asmussen pieces well on the national. Hp a website that's national e. h. b. a. dot com Eric man appreciate the visit. Appreciate spelling those things out and Happy holidays merry christmas to you and the family in. We'll look forward to catching up against soon. My friend thank you mike. Happy holidays to you michelle and all your listeners and you know i didn't want to quickly say i enjoy listening to tim. I actually still have that video on. My phone of americans say phero coming down the lane and his description of the roar at belmont Even listen to it every once in a while just to give them a pick me up. There was something special. So i'm glad you mentioned that. Yeah special moment. indeed. Eric appreciate it but take care hockey. Certain all right when i come back. It's our monthly visit with the folks at four roses. Bourbon you'll hear from master distiller brent elliott and then a special christmas tree for everybody getting ready for santa's visit in just a few days. This is the form on h. r. n. edina spring stallion. Move on macho man. 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The segment includes our monthly visit with the folks at four roses. Bourbon lawrenceburg kentucky. Brent elliott is the master distiller of the year for two thousand nineteen. And this morning you get to know. Brent elliott since eighteen eighty eight four. Roses has been made with the same passion and handcrafted as only they can end this interview. Much like the iconic. Bourbon handcrafted by four roses. Today i have the privilege of visiting once again with brent elliott to is the master distiller and quality director with four roses. What do you remember about that day in. Two thousand five when you first walked through the doors here at for roses. That's actually pretty funny. Because when i started the week i started was the week of bourbon festival. And i don't know if you've ever been involved in that but it's basically like the whole industry we're still producing the background but everyone can stop. They're doing in terms. It's like the The week where everybody comes to kentucky just to to learn to celebrate bourbon so ruin a lot of work gets done. It's all about showcasing. Two guests what we do so like here. We we host events on site were going to bardstown to participate in events is just a lot of celebration and in promotional type stuff. So that was that was. The week started while. Could you imagine at that time that you'd be sitting here thirteen years later which let's face it. That's really not that long of a time and sitting here is the master distiller of four roses. No yeah i had no idea. I almost didn't take this job. Actually it was. I was in tennessee. I just bought a house just gotten married and had a job had a job and we came up. We took a tour of woodford reserve. Words up here visit family. When weekend and i'd grown up kentucky. I went to school. Uk so this has always been home. But i've been living down there for about seven years. And i thought you know i bet. I bet. This industry needs chemists. At the something i could do. Which is my background. And actually that very weakened. I got home sunday night. Got online a found this job posted and went back and forth came up interviewed off the job and i couldn't decide whether to take it or not. This two thousand. Five this before the resurgence in the popularity of The only reason i was really interested in it was just because it was an industry. That being from kentucky was near and dear to my heart would it was interesting and just sounded like something. I could a job that i could enjoy on many levels. Not just a paycheck with some of that could really get passionate about. Were you a bourbon drinker. At that time yes you are. But i'd first time. I tried four. Roses was on my way. Or i came up for the interview the night before. And on the way you can only get in kentucky at the time. I bought a bottle on the way to the hotel. Four and try to that night the night before interview for the first time and that was probably as much a factor in my decision to take this job as anything just fell in love with the bourbon again this before the boom and bourbon. But i knew that there was a fantastic product and as a company that we do well. Because we're just now starting to come back to the united states and which we have but never imagined it would be like this and i certainly never imagined that i'd be the master distiller actually two thousand fifteen. When i took over so ten short years after that had no idea any took over for a gentleman by the name of jim rutledge. Who was the master. Distiller here for roses. Tell me about working with jim and learning from him. Yeah he's if you know anything about bourbon you know. Jim rutledge name an absolute on in industry. A probably more passion and dedication than anyone. I've met in the industry. It was just that was an honor to work with him for the ten years that i got to. I was probably the most important thing. I learned from him which i learned so much. It's hard to really pinpoint anything. But without getting technical and boring for the most important thing i learned was just how he kind of what i touched on earlier with. You're dealing with consumers and people are curious about the bourbon industry and he would take all the time the world to answer you know group to people he bumped into them. You know on the grounds maybe two guests walking around. It could spend hours just answering their questions. And i think it's part of the same thing. He had that passion that love still bound for the for the brand for the industry. And i can just see how important that was to guests from the outside looking sink him interact with with the consumer so it was just something to behold netease. I've always remembered that and always will give favorite flavor. I get asked that a lot. And you know. At times. I might think i do. And then it'll change the following week so it's hard to say it's i can't even tell you which of the are three center. Products is my favorite it. It's almost it could change by season by time of day. It it because they're all different. It's just different flavor for different occasions when you think about all the things. You've accomplished here in thirteen years you've been here in in working as the master distiller since two thousand fifteen. What are you most proud of him right now. Probably just because we're growing so quickly we're expanding your in the middle of our capacity. Just added a new bottling facility. We've just about anything. You look at anywhere in. Our process has changed dramatically in the last not just three years but last twelve years and probably the biggest challenge for me this entire time. They've been here in particular. My in my role of director of quality is maintained consistency. Making sure that what's coming out of the still or out of the barrel or big put into the bottle that it is always consistent and it has that same characteristic that has has gotten us to where we are. Today that has put four roses on the map. I think that's an. I kind of feel like stewart of that. That legacy maybe some people. I say you know what he you do. How do you wanna make your mark. I don't even consider that you know. Maybe someday i'm sure that you know. I want to experiment just as anyone would other people around here feel the same way you will branch out. Try something different some point but right now. I think what's most important what i'm most proud of is maintaining the brand that so many others have worked to build up to get us to where we are now. Well as you said earlier if you know bourbon you know the name. Jim rutledge and i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that someday when people talk about bourbon they're gonna know the name. Brent elliott is well so brent. I really appreciate it all of our listeners. Across the nation now no brent elliott and appreciate you spending a little time getting to know you here today. Thank you all right and again. The master destroy stiller of the year in two thousand nineteen. And you can Enjoy for roses bourbon. You can get just about anywhere. It's fantastic stuff and my thanks to brenton the folks at four roses for that visit every single month. Getting another break. When i come back a special christmas tree for everybody and We'll wrap up this show the results from the poll question as well. That's next on the equine forum on the horse racing radio network your home. For racing's biggest events stretch with spungen around one dot catch coming to the bold stunned around drifted out with leave shiver on the inside a second home on the beaches made his way up into third but spun. Fees spun to by three of the lakes. Gains way stallion spun to run in the great one. Breeders cup dirt mile. 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Twenty one horse calendar blood horse dot com slash winter special to take advantage of that promotion. Will i told you that. I would wrap up the show with special holiday. Treat a christmas treat for all of you out there Years ago my former partner and mentor the late pete. Coolest wrote a poem and He was exceptional at writing these things. He wrote a poem kind of in the holiday theme. If you will and so many of you enjoyed it. When i played this for you last year so i'm going to do it again here. It is my present to you on this christmas week. Edition of the equine form. The last race was coming. He now had to score two bucks in his pocket. he needed. no more. The odds board had flashed He had the right one. His horse was named info at forty two one. He glanced at his program. Could this horse get beat. Not a chance in the world. He had studied the sheet. He reached in his pocket and fingered ones two bucks to his name but he had the right one. He went to the window and waited in line. He looked at the racetrack. His look just fine. He called out his number. The man punched it out. That small piece of paper would give cause to shout. He walked to the rail clutching hope in his hand. The horses parading in front of the stand. The crowd was now milling. The start was now near. He fingered his ticket and trembled with fear. Now the money he lost he could not afford but impo would win it and then he scored. His hands had grown sweaty. The start was at hand. When post time was sounded his legs felt like sand. The field was in line in the green starting gate his ticket on info. No-one matter of fate. The gates now flew open. The field thundered out info on the inside was shuffled about the horses. Were flying to the half-mile pole info was seventh and looking for a whole. They went to the far turn. The favourite in front info lay seven ten far from the front at the top of the stretch was the favourite by five but info is moving for the long stretch. Drive they came to the eighth pole. The favourite had quit now. Info was fourth on the outside of it as they drove to the wire they were four horses wide info in the middle with a powerful stride. They flash past the wire apart. A photo was called for not good for the heart. The long wait was torture for nobody knew who really had it. But he felt he knew it had to be info his mind filled with fear. If impo lost it. What more could he fear. The numbers were posted. He stood there aghast for impo had lost it. The guy was now cast. He stood by the rail till all had gone home still clutching his ticket. He cared not to rome. A breeze had now risen as he stood there alone swirling bunches of tickets in the form of a comb. The ticket was crumpled. He clutched it so hard. Like a small piece of paper one would find in the art. He opened the ticket and shouted we glee with this winning ticket. He gained a reprieve for rather than info he had number. Three a winner for a whopping two hundred and three fun. Little thing there again My late Mentor my good friend pete. Coolest was a brilliant with a lot of those things and put that together. And i thought it would be appropriate to share it with you on this edition of the show our last addition before christmas and next week you'll hear a best of twenty twenty show In it it's Some of the best interviews. In my opinion that we've had on the show Throughout the year including bobby flay Gosh i can't remember who else. I had several people. But you're going to enjoy it next saturday and make sure you're tuned in for that eight to ten eastern our post christmas edition of the equine form. This morning i was joined by ryan and andrea aggressive of the horse racing club to kick off the show. My thanks to them. My thanks to jimmy bell from godolphin for joining me in the first half of the program. Our industry started the week ron stevens who you can hear a full one hour interview with on our trainer. Talk show that posted on our website at horse racing. Radio dot net Tim wilkin from the albany times union. Join me in the second half of the show. As did eric camelback the ceo of the national hp. My thanks to each of them for making this show. Possible poll question. Today it was actually a trivia question in honor of the los alamitos. Futurity asked you to of two parts of this question. Who is the only horse to win. Both the futurity and the kentucky derby a couple of got it right real quiet did that. When he won the futurity and ninety seven back in ninety eight and the only horse ever to finish unplaced in the low south. Futurity come back and win the kentucky derby the next year one right answer. it was gato. Del sole in nineteen eighty two. Who was off the board in the future and then came back toward the roses. Thanks to everybody who participated those questions. happy holidays. Merry christmas to everybody be safe. Enjoy this time with family. And my thanks to our hr and family here Lead lpn are lexington studios chauncey for handling all of our social media. Greatly appreciate that. I'm mike pen. And we're back with the next week on the equine forum. Thanks for listening and as always go steelers.

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Part 1: Andy Beyer, Richard Migliore,  Lee Einsidler, Kelly Breen

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

12:36 min | 2 months ago

Part 1: Andy Beyer, Richard Migliore, Lee Einsidler, Kelly Breen

"Sirius xm ports presents at the races. With steve raziq and accounting interviews. This is steve a very good post triple crown. Monday raise fans serious to nineteen exempt to a one sports. Own nine sixty four. You're listening to sirius. Xm online and on our website was the dot com. A terrific terrific belmont stakes weekend once we once we got the the wayward passing storm out of the way on friday. There was the missed it by just that much I did. I did tweet that there was going to be. You know potential for passing passing shower. I think i called it between three and five. It was a little bit more than a passing shower but overall it did not impact. I shouldn't say that because it definitely impacted that new york then new york steak it. We'll get we'll get to that that that's down. The that's down. The pecking order of things to absorb and enjoy and relish. A out of a particularly the saturday at that was just. You know absolutely near perfect. The the day he had talked about near perfect. How do you not start the day. Just and the coverage by talking about the day that godolphin had as as an organization Because the one two finish for charlie appleby in the just a game and aguilar winning the darby earlier in the day and then capping everything with essential qualities. I would say not retribution. That's that's that's that's a heavy handed word but certainly for those that that kind of rolled their eyes. When when brad cox said when i looked at this source the first time i said this is a belmont winner. Well he was right. So why what can you say was right. I it He was one of those. Oh yeah okay. Well pretty prophetic. Essential quality. And hot rod charlie who ran just an exceptional race just exceptional i in defeat and i thought for certainly certainly brad cox who will. Who's actually on a plane literally right now At nine o'clock so brad tomorrow 'cause he's traveling back to louisville and so we'll get him early in the show tomorrow to recap his weekend. I don't think there's any stakes that he can win today He didn't win the that australasia actually won the the jersey girl yesterday too so he started. He started the week the mid part of the week. Winning couple of steaks at at prairie meadows had a little little valmont stakes success and then capped it off yesterday with The jersey girl So we'll talk to brad tomorrow. Probably expect the hoping to have reached him yet but We expect to have a chance to talk to jimmy bell and let him reflect on the kind of day. It was for the boys in blue. The the fact that the derby winner comes back and wins the belmont. It does put a nice a nice cap on what has been a a difficult and testing five weeks. Let's let's be honest call at four weeks actually and in the wake of the situation out of derby but when you when you carve up the three races and racing history will have the opportunity soon enough to do that right now. We're still in the the immediate aftermath But long term i i. I think it's going to. It's going to be i think well received and it and it's interesting that it is interesting and anti buyers gonna join his first because in the wake of of eddie calling for the change in the triple crown last week. He was absolutely thrilled by the performances of the top pair On saturday he was really impressed. Me to the point reached out to me to talk about it and it is unusual that we get to belmont and it ends up being. At least you know. From a figs standpoint the best performances of the triple crown campaign of the season one. Oh nine buyer for essential quality. One away for hot rod. Charlie and and yes the when. Get a pair horses in fact Had this comment Came out yesterday on twitter. That i responded to affirmatively about two horses pressing each other and extending each other. And i think you got that from these two And yesterday all indications actually that they both you know popped out of it very well. The central quality and hot rod charlie so for these two to be a dozen lengths clear of the preakness winner and known agenda. It gives you gives you pause me that that is that is a i mean a sizeable gap and it's one of the reasons that you know fig is what it is because granted not everybody is going to take to twelve furlongs but let me for these two to be it was eleven and change actually Eleven and a half lengths out ahead and audio. He'll talk about the figure making part because of course there was the brooklyn earlier in the day. But you know nobody's gonna pretend that as well as lone rock ran that you know that his number based on on the clock was going to be what what these two ran and it kind of shows you what the racetrack was doing as the day went on. So and you'll explain that it's actually a very useful comparison between early in the day. I mean the brooklyn when off. I think the earlier than two o'clock one twenty one twenty two post time for the brooklyn so there was five hours plus almost five and a half hours between races. And it shows you how the racetrack in can change and an an all things. This is one thing. And i'm sure richmond or who's was going to join us today and andy old serving join us tomorrow. They can talk about this to the fact that we had the kind of weather that we had and as much water as the race track talk the track played fair made. I think it didn't hurt to be you know on or near. But that's always true at belmont but i the track was not completely there was no. I didn't i didn't hear a lot of grousing about it'll speed favoring and this and such usually when you when you're when you're squeegee ing that racetrack there's there's potential you know that you end up with a bias for a day or two but they were harrowing. I mean e- even on even friday. I mean obviously there was the extra rain but they were harrowing in early and it was obvious on on saturday morning that the track was gonna get too fast pretty quickly and it went from buddy too good too fast in fairly short order so we got a pretty fair racetrack on all Certainly i've mentioned that new york and we'll get back to friday's action you know as part of the mornings overviews And forensic fire for instance. We're going to visit with kelly green But know the track. He was probably lucky to some degree that the rain came when it did and not a little bit earlier because kelly was sweating a sloppy track for him and he got a a. You know a good track but then when the rain came it obviously shook things up to the point where you ended up in the ended up with scratches. The great steaks trainers can can scratch and so things change quite a bit and it. Undoubtedly benefited mean mary. Let's absolutely did The from pay scenario and also that race you know of course getting soft pretty quickly With that deluge and very tough very tough for horses the to rally. I mean we may not take away from mary's new york win but the certainly certainly aided by the the conditions and the changes that the weather wrought there the no no two ways about that so but she you know she followed it up. She followed up her gala. Rhett successfully back to the belmont for a minute. Lewis is Considering that mean. Mary piloted by louis as well. This is this is a great win for him and for kieran mclaughlin. I joked to karen on saturday. I said well one is a trainer. One is a jack agent. Now you got breed own one and you'll have the super factor of belmont wins happy for lewis iras. And it's kind of interesting that you know over these last three weeks you had flavian pratt. Who got put up in a derby led to get his first triple crown win while he gets a redemptive. Redemptive but saturday's firing. I suppose the better word more satisfying trip led to the winner's circle at baltimore. And here's lewis is of course was famously and dejectedly and anybody can appreciate that situation for for lewis is here. He is getting a classic win.

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Equine Forum - May 23rd 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

1:59:16 hr | 1 year ago

Equine Forum - May 23rd 2020

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse racing radio network by unfurling laid at six. Think outside second portable still regard plumbing. Please don't duck either way. Victory Cal Buddies Kobe. Real quiet give leg-weary victory of real ways to one hundred twenty the Kentucky Derby Welcome to the equine forum presented by foreign paint dot com for outside of run. Jack About Giacomo. Surging ALEX CLOSING ARGUMENT. All those finals dog to win. Derby won thirty-one traffic final time Terry. Now here's Mike. Hello everyone a very pleasant good morning and once again. Welcome to the show. That launched a network. This is the forum presented all month long farm paint DOT com here on the Horse Racing Radio Network. Mike Baron of the backstretch happy to have all of you tuning in across North America on Sirius to nineteen. Xm To a one on our affiliates in Lexington Louisville and across the country and all of you listening digitally. You're doing that on our website at horse racing radio DOT net. Will you know there's certainly no shortage of headlines in thoroughbred racing this past week the big one of course involving the Belmont stakes which for the first time in history will be contested as the first leg of the triple crown and will be run at eight significantly shorter distance of a mile and an eighth as opposed to the mile? And a half that we're used to seeing. I'll talk more about that in just a minute. In other news racing secretary Ben Huffman and his team at Churchill downs have put together just an unbelievably tremendous eleven race card this afternoon if features five stakes races including the grade. Three Matt Win where we're GONNA see undefeated grade one winner. Max `field make his highly anticipated three year. Old debut in the colors of Godolphin it. I'll visit with Jimmy Bell the president of Godolphin. Us operations coming up in just a little bit at eight fifteen eastern. We'll talk to him about Max `field and about all GMS who is going to take on sharing returns in the one hundred thousand dollar Tappin. Stakes sharing the winner of the breeders. Cup Juvenile fillies turf will be making her three year old debut later today to and that should be a lot of fun to watch Graham motion. Her trainer will be with me at nine o'clock eastern that card by the way at Churchill also offers a five hundred thousand dollar guaranteed all stakes pick five races seven through eleven so something for horse players to look forward to speaking pick FIS by the way and speaking of news of the Week. Charlestown announced this week that they will now be offering horse players. A fifty cent pick five on the last five races of the card with a ridiculously low twelve percent takeout. A Horse Players Delight. If you're a pick five player and if nobody selects all five winners seventy. Five percent of the pool is carried over to the next racing program so kudos to West Virginia to Charlestown for putting that together Our friends at Keeneland here in the bluegrass made some headlines This Week. Applying to run for a short five day summer meet. This is pretty cool. July eighth to the twelfth here in Lexington. That's going to allow them to schedule. Ten graded stakes which are traditionally run. During the April meet which of course had to be cancelled due to all of the concerns would covid nineteen the great to Bluegrass in the grade. One Ashland would be part of a unbelievable card on July eleventh and the Breeders Cup by the way still on schedule to be contested at keeneland November sixth and seventh in the first Breeders Cup challenge race in the US. Going to be held at Santa Anita coming up on Monday Memorial Day eleven horses have been entered into the grade. One shoemaker mile a win and you're in for the Breeders Cup Mile I'll be joined by Breeders Cup Executive Vice President of racing nomination store at Delgado at nine forty eastern time this morning toward the end of the program. She'll give you an update on where things stand with that challenge series now would tracks like. Belmont starting to at least announce their stake schedules. We've got a little bit of an idea of what we're looking at those racist she'll give you an update coming up. Nine forty eastern Ruidoso. Downs kicked off their meat yesterday and they run through Labor Day which is when they will host the most famous quarter horse race that you see in the sport the three million dollar grade one all American futurity and I'll be joined eight thirty five eastern time by General Manager. Jeff through to look ahead to what you can expect it. That rude Ruidoso downs meet Promises to be a blockbuster meet as always and this. Of course it's Memorial Day weekend a time to remember all of those who have made the ultimate sacrifice and service to our country and who better to reflect on the true meaning of Memorial Day than West Point graduate and founder of West Point thoroughbreds. Terry Finley I'll talk to him nine twenty eastern time so busy two hours coming up Jimmy Bell from Godolphin Eight fifteen eastern Jeff true from Ruidoso. Downs eight thirty five eastern time. Graham Ocean at Nine o'clock Terry Finley nine twenty two and Dora Delgado to wrap up program at nine forty. Of course our industry star of the week presented by Morris in between all of that so We're GONNA cover a lot of ground for you here this morning. That to the triple crown for a minute and the announcement from Belmont Park that the Belmont will be run June twentieth. Am I the only one disappointed that our sport couldn't come together to create a fall triple crown poker? Would that have been of course? It would required all three tracks working together. Which doesn't often happen in our sport and sadly it didn't happen here either. Churchill downs announced in March. They were the first ones they announced. In March that the Kentucky Derby would be Labor Day weekend Saturday September fifth the stronach group announced last Saturday that the preakness would be rescheduled for October. Third a month after the Kentucky Derby and then this past week naira the final domino to fall announce that their decision to run the Belmont stakes on Saturday June twentieth. And they would cut the distance mile and a half two mile an eighth in order to do that. So for the first time in history the will be run as the first race in the series of the triple crown. You know that doesn't bother me. And the reduced distance doesn't bother me as it did so many people who reacted out social media after the news came out this week. But if you're GONNA run the race four weeks from today then yet you have to cut the distance from a mile and a half because you you. You can't get a horse ready on short notice like this to go a mile and a half and do it safely and the Belmont by the way hasn't always been running a mile and a half. It was running a mile and an eighth in eighteen ninety three and eighteen ninety four. Now I know we're going back a ways that was at Morris Park. It was initially run in Eighteen. Sixty seven at a mile and five eight so the distance doesn't concern me and I think that the move to shorten the race considering it soon be run June twentieth. The right the right decision my issue with this whole thing is with the timing of the triple crown races and again. The only one disappointed that our sport couldn't come together to create a fall triple crown with a more traditional scheduling of the three races. The Belmont on June twentieth leaves US eleven weeks for the second of the triple crown the Derby on September eleven weeks and another four weeks to the last leg the preakness. I'm sorry but that is not a triple crown and if a horse. We've all three races this year. I don't see any way that you consider that horse a true triple crown winner and it's not because that the races are being run out of order but it's because of the timing of the three races and keep in mind the triple crown hasn't always been Derby preakness. Belmont thousand nine hundred thirty gallant Fox won the preakness eight days later. He took the Derby as the second leg and completed the triple crown three weeks after that in the Belmont stakes but he won the three races in about a one month span. Not Fifteen weeks like we're talking about here in two thousand twenty. That's ridiculous that is not a triple crown and you know looking at a fall triple crown and what might have been if all three entities have chosen to work together. Take a look at it now. You gotTA understand. Nbc dictates a lot of this because of their scheduling and when they can fit things in and they have been a wonderful partner for horseracing their TV schedule in the fall is largely revolving around their contract with Notre Dame football if you take a look at what that would look like in in best case scenario if you were to do it as a traditional fall triple crown traditional scheduling of the races. The Derby on September fifth is not an issue. There is no notre dame football. Obviously that's already locked in two weeks later September. Nineteen if you were to schedule. The preakness there as it normally would be two weeks after the Derby. Notre Dame plays Western Michigan. That's at two thirty eastern time so it does there might be a little finagling on the part of NBC. Wake this work but it does work you can still if the Derby the preakness doesn't run until almost seven o'clock at night that you give you plenty of time to get that out there on NBC and to make that work three weeks after that you run the Belmont stakes on October tenth. That's a no brainer. That's easy Notre Dame play Stanford at seven thirty now. This is all the swimming. There's even going to be college football this year but you have to go into it with the assumption that those games are going to happen when you schedule this and if you run the Belmont as the third and final leg a mile and a half on October tenth and you have a fall triple crown five weeks in between all three races. It leaves you one month between the end of the triple crown and the Breeders Cup at Keeneland November sixth and seventh. What's wrong with that Nella? I wasn't privy to those conversations that went on behind the scenes when Belmont and Nyra were talking about. Rescheduling the Belmont or win the stronach group was talking about rescheduling preakness but they moved it to the fall. So it certainly looks to me like Pimlico. Stronach group are willing to play ball. Doesn't look like Myra was. They were hell bent. I keeping that race in June for whatever reason doesn't look like they were team players here doesn't I don't know if you consider. Churchill a team player and again not being privy to those conversations how much churchill try to work with the stronach group and naira before they made their announcement of September fifth. Maybe a lot maybe not enough. Maybe not all just some to think about again. Disappointing to me. That somehow our sport and these three major entities couldn't come together for the good of sport to put together. What would have been an awesome thing? A fall triple crown and because of that fifteen weeks in between the three races come on. That's not a triple crown. And the Horse that wins. All three is not going to be considered a triple crown winner. And that's my poll question. Do you agree. Do you disagree with that? I want to hear from you you can go to. Hr on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook to let me know if a horse sweeps all three races in the triple crown this year. Is he a triple crown winner? Do you consider him a triple crown winner. That's probably a better way to say. Do you consider him a triple crown winner and you have to choices absolutely and no way. Let me know your thoughts. I say no way not even close not even now ridiculous. Very disappointing All right again very very busy program. We're going to cover a lot of ground We may touch on that subject again later in the program with one of our gas but when I come back I'm going to be joined by Jimmy Bell President of Godolphin's US operations. He'll talk about the talented Max deal making his three. They've you can't. 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Here's Max be old moving up on the outside to challenge Guvener Morris off the bar turn and Max field strides forward and takes the lead by a length and a half to lake. Look Final Furlong Guvener. Moore's second enforceable third. The rest are far back Max. Field Rep taking rod at the top of the stretch Hicks clear by six Max field to win the flavor and readers feature at a four Jose Ortiz. Welcome back to the equine form presented all month long by FAR PAINT DOT COM. Mike Penner with you from my home studio my producer. Lee Dela Pena is in our primary studio in the heart of the Bluegrass Lexington Kentucky and happy to have you back with me as Kurt. Becker brought him home with the call of the breeders futurity at Keeneland last October. And Max `field remaining perfect to for two and breathtaking was the word that Kurt used in the call and I think that's appropriate because this son of Darley Stallion Street sense has been nothing short of remarkable and everybody has been anxiously awaiting the return of maccesfield since he had to scratch prior to the Breeders Cup at Santa Anita this past fall. I know nobody anticipating this return more than Jimmy Bell. The president of Godolphin's US operations and he is with me now. Here on the Horse. Racing Radio Network Jimmy. Good morning my friend more and Mike. How're you doing? I'm doing well excited to see McAfee back in action later today value. I think quite a few others and I almost wanted to replay. That stretch called the of the flavoring beers dirty. Again that that It was breathtaking. And sort of. Get your juices flowing again anticipation. And that's certainly what we've been doing for quite a while but Days here we couldn't be more excited as I was listening to. Kurt's call coming out of the break I could. I could envision that move that Max `field made in that race and just sweeping by horses like they were tied to oppose Jimmy But impressed you most about field that day at keeneland well you know again In both the first two starts you know. He's a little tardy leaving the gate. And you Kinda your heart rate drops a little bit when you see him leave the gate. They go boy. You know in this grade one race like that. It's a little hard to make up all that kind of distance as you. Well know it's a short run to the finish line of Sixteenth poll. So a lot of times when you come out of that turned. You better better paid your spots. And the movie made beginning from the three eighths pole to the to the Top of the stretch and straightened away really was breathtaking. You don't see many horses that can truly circle field like that and just you know switch leads and draw the way did so Yeah it makes you makes you dream a little bit and and that was a legitimate grade. One performance yet. A Horse that Godolphin Brad. Obviously as I mentioned by street sense who stands at Darley here in in Lexington out of Bernardini mayor of Velvety. Tell me a little bit about the pedigree and the way this meeting came together from Max Field. Well as you know it really goes a little deeper than that it's you know. Velvety Miracle. Caress cat was a fantastic foundation. Mayor of the great harborview breeding and racing operation and You know as as you just mentioned Bernardini's got to be an unbelievable broodmare sire. And here you see at once again. You know his his Probably one of the youngest SARS that have soured as many grade. One winner says he's done so phenomenal breeding obviously on the bottom side and and straight senses certainly made his own noise as as a Siren. And we really really hopeful. That Max build is a type of horseshoe dream out that you always loved to see A young son of one of your stallions not only do well but nowhere. He's GonNa end up to yeah. We were all disappointed. We didn't get to see him strut his stuff in the Breeders Cup at Santa. Anita I told Brennan Walsh's trainer after the race that maybe that was a bit of a blessing in disguise. I in some respects because he could look forward to the first Saturday in May of course. Now it'll be the first Saturday in September but tell me about what these past few months have been like for Max `field sense scratching from Santa Anita Breeders Cup. Well you know you're exactly right. My you know you remember talking about it out the Breeders Cup and you know you always like to think. Perhaps there's there's there's the silver lining to this pretty dark cloud at the moment. And that's that sounds good philosophically speaking but Obviously a great disappointment At the time but it was never even a question mark as to what we're going to do and and Giving that time off and you know had that little ship removed it's given brandon all the time in the world to bring a horse along that that needed time you know. We always said he would does a two year old. Be a bonus because just he's a very much Is Our big tall or the likey immature looking but very balanced two year old? But you would envision what he might look like when he really hit that growing spurt until now is a three year old and and this time off You know to his advantage to the first four five months of the year. He's developed so much in filled out especially through his hand and got so much stronger and You know he's always had a phenomenal. Mental approach mental attitude. He's he's that's probably one of the greatest attribute mental toughness but the ability in time to really develop physically probably been the biggest key to where he is today and We really are. I don't know if you seem seeing on video. That was in the T and but he's certainly filled out the way we had hoped and He's a proper looking three-year-old. Obviously Jimmy you WANNA see him win today and you WanNa see him remain undefeated but I know. There's bigger goals up the road. So what are you going to be looking for when Max deal goes to the post later today? Well let's You know while while we're grateful to have all this time to sort of develop and catch up now. What he's done in the morning has been so pleasing every time. He's very willing very generous in the morning shuts off just like that when he comes off the track all the signs you WanNa see. He displays But let's be honest. He has run since Breeder Futurity at Cayman last October and He's stepping against very battle-tested horses that have all had at least three races this year. So that that's a question mark but you know. I think he's that type. Of course that doesn't need a lot of practice runs. Obviously you could tell his two year old career Surprisingly in his first race that he was able to get the job done there so I think that he's got the added benefit of a very good mind and I think that's probably going to be as big a factor as you come back and sort of not always stick your toe in the water. But you know you're probably get right to do some swimming here so I think he's physically ready. I think he's always had the mental capacity. And you know you just hope that The time off. There isn't too much rust. They're men and I just I. I have a feeling that he's ready to perform so again. You know it's rare that you're going to sit here and say you have no excuses but today we have. No excuses might have something later this afternoon but we're just very fortunate to be in a position where are both physically and mentally talking with Jimmy. Bell here on the Horse Racing Radio Network President of Godolphin's US operations. Jimmy let me go out on a limb here and say that if Max field doesn't win the grade three met wind today. You'd be okay with number one mystic. Get getting the victory the other one racing in royal blue. Well that's an interesting conversation. Actually Misty God missed a got. Is You know his his Got A lot of attention and breaking his maiden. I don't know if you're sheep follow or not but You know both have very very similar. Sheep numbers in their first starts. Their second starts In breaking his maintenance the second start going to turns misty guy got got an eight. I believe eight on the sheets and And and when Mexico won the breeders thirty guys seven three quarter. So you know they`re. They're both shown phenomenal ability. But what we really didn't WANNA do Is have to run each other run against each other again so early in the year as well. So the entry of Mr Guide into this race was an was a last resort Mike stem is a very conservative guy by nature not wanted to really just want to break your maintenance jump into deep in but you know we all had to. Kinda shuffle a deck here and and with racing on hold and so many places. They're just this was really the only opportunity to run at that time since then. Belmont came out with their book. There's a nice allowance race on June fourth going and sixteen amount eighth. I believe. And that's really what we prefer to do. Some misty guide now the race to point towards. We're running the allowance race. Belmont and and These won't see each other all right. Well there you go you're have mystic get and Max `field not going to match up here today but How about arms in the in stakes? Another godolphin runner been brilliant undefeated. Now she has to take on sharing he returns after winning the Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf. Tell me a little bit about arms. Well it's hard to improve off a four for four so she's one of those you know. We started sprinting. In the first two races and then stretched out to a mile and and Senator to California Jimmy around at del Mar and you know she won that very impressively When you go when you go three for three and want to give her every opportunity. Winter gave her a little rice down. Fairgrounds in anticipation of some big races. King them back up in New York so again like everybody Mike. You know we've had to kind of reshuffle the deck and You know again. There's so many top horses ready to run with nowhere to go. And now when you have some racing dope enough you you look up here and you say GonNa run against the Beers Cup. Beautiful winner here In your first start you know of this season. So a tall order. Graham's got a great philly and sharing Eddie Canal. He's got a nice feeling there as well as done nothing wrong. And unfortunately you know we're in the fourteen hole there but No this really has shown nothing but class and everything she's done so This is a jump in the deep end. But we're going to know what we have come out of this race today. As far as the quality of what she can do against the top phillies and quite honestly we. We thought she deserved the opportunity to be running spots. Like this Oh You know very very nice cities if Philly of an empire maker mayor that has really got a great turn of foot and Again I keep talking about this mental disposition. She too has a great great Mental Outlook Yeah. It's so important and often overlooked with these good horses arms. Has IT MAX field has it for sure You also have three horses scheduled to go to the post in the war chance stakes which would be race eleven as the final race on the program right after the Matt Win picks shared sense in Herodotus are all going to run in there all three or go to run their. Maybe maybe three different reasons. But they're all GONNA show up As you can tell actually shared sense was the possibility for the Matt. Win and speak with Brad Cox Jimmy You know again. We're not looking to run their own horses against each other. Not that we don't but in this particular case with Matt when we really wanted to The focus had always been with with Max build and and secondly misty God if there was no other place to run and share sense You know he's a very very competitive oarsmen. A very very tough allows race down. Oklahoma's last art and back Cox says I've always wanted to run this this little cold on the grass. I just have a feeling that he may really take the turf. Nothing we just discussed it a little bit further and said this might be a great time. 'cause you know really as we say we surely didn't want three in the win and trying to spread them around quarterly so he's he's a an unknown factor and with ability Of A nice mayor collective. Who's the daughter composure and Another street sense. And you know Brad Cox just said let's let's give this a world which so this is unchartered territory for him but think he's got the to to give a good account itself and You know pixelated cities colts. It's done nothing wrong You know has the closing ability in and of course Harare this was last week. Starts shows the ability to kind of control the pace and These turf races you know. Kinda Kinda gotta get the right trip to begin with so we've got some in the front some of the middle and some we don't know yeah well three horses in the royal blue in that war chant and again a very busy day you'll see a lot of royal blue on the race track at. Churchill later this afternoon Jimmy Bell. Nice not to spend some time with me here. This morning Jimmy. Listen Good luck this afternoon. The one thing I didn't get to and I have to get to a break is To ask you about that Godolphin philosophy because you have to be feeling so privileged to be part of that team because they just do things right From the top all the way down. And we'll do that at some point in the future but good luck here today. Go get it done and appreciate the visit here this morning. Thank you so much in order to be a part of the team and and thank you for everything that you do as well. It's great to show these stories. Thank you right Jimmy. Jimmy Bell here on the horse racing radio network like all of our guests appear on the program. We're GONNA send Jimmy a gift. Courtesy of embraced the race. The apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race dot com time now for your lexus? 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And what a great caller he was and we remember world champion win a lot of cash. Who won that race in one so many big races and looking forward to visiting with Jeff through the general manager of Riodosa downs? That comes up here in just a minute But want to remind you that if you are looking for live streaming and replays from nearly any race track out there. All you have to do is check out. Rt AND DOT TV. The race track television network are has the most HD content of any streaming service and is available on many devices including TV's PC's tablets smartphones coup and Amazon Fire TV. And how about this as a special treat for all of our listeners if you use the Promo Code Capital H. R. N. All capital Letters. You're going to get the first seven days of live streaming and replace absolutely free. Just go to Artesian DOT TV and sign up now wells. I mentioned Jeff. True is at Ruidoso downs. He is the general manager. They kicked off their me yesterday. They'll go through labor day when they will host the all American to three million dollar a grade one race and jeff boy. Congratulations on a successful start to the meat and looking forward to the next couple of months. Thank you my good morning. We're looking to looking forward to it. Also yeah it should be great. You know that all American when you think about what that race means not just to Ruidoso downs but what it means to the sport. As a whole it's it's equivalent to the Kentucky Derby Right. It's certainly our version of the derby biggest race of the year. It probably drives most of the the yearling purchases and a lot of the speculation throughout the year. Ken We breathe or buy a horse. That can you know go that quarter mile and September first. You're the first Monday in September and say it's You know it's the cap of our triple crown all three races which are run here though so and I believe Mike and I've looked around a bit. I believe it's the richest two year old horse race on the planet There's a big two year old race in Australia but at three million dollars there's not Not any that. I've found that topic. Yeah the money is great and you know the the races leading up to that day on Labor Day throughout the entire meet you have all the trials and the yet the Rideau so derby which is on June. Sixth there are several highlights drought the meat. So Jeff go ahead and fill people in what they can expect. When they tune in to the races at Route Elsa downs thereto sedans is You know tucked away in the mountains about seven thousand feet here in South Central New Mexico. We run those traditional dates memorial day to Labor Day every year and we start off the meat like we did yesterday with Radoslav futurity trials and what that means. Is You know the triple crown is made up of the Rideau so the rainbow and the all American. We have a two year old and a three year old division for each of those triple crown events. The two year olds obviously in. May Most of them are non starters when they enter the trials so we have. We had two hundred seventy seven two year old. Puerto Horses enter the trials a week ago. We split those time trials into two days so the five fastest from yesterday and the five fastest from the trials later. Today we'll come back on June seventh and run fridge. Million Dollar purse will run derby trials. Eleven of them on Sunday and ten of those horses will come back and run for about nine hundred and fifty thousand. So that's the first leg we'll come back while the fourth of July weekend we'll run the rainbow the same way. So the Rados is three hundred and fifty yards. The rainbow is four hundred yards and we get to the American. We'll run those time trials in the middle of August with the plans to come back to the finals. The futurity and the Derby On Labor Day weekend that's had a quarter mile and a horse that wins all three few charities. We'll get a two million dollar bonus. The horse that wins all three derbies will get a one million dollar bonus. And you know it's a pretty lucrative racing program business and you've got a triple crown futurity winner you're talking about nearly four and a half to five million dollars in total purses for the summer. That's a pretty big incentive and it's what drives our our horse sales is what drives our Quarterhorse Business Nationally. You WANNA say nationally-know. We're primarily a south western oriented business and it's one of the courses came from That's where they're they're dominantly. Bread predominantly Raised and bred here in the South West and and our program kind of anchors. The Business Talking Jeff through the general manager of Rita slowdowns here on the horse racing radio network again. They're meet began. Yesterday it runs all the way through Labor Day. Jeff you're like so many other race tracks or I guess every other race track you are operating in what we call a new normal doing it without fans in attendance which means that the product is made for TV in some respects and People can wager on it from all over the country. How does it work? How are you handling this new normal? And how can people access the the racing? And how can they wager on it? Re those sit downs has Has the good fortune albeit not this year but the good fortune of having very high on track. Attendance and handle about fifty percent of our total handle is done right here on the racetrack in typical years. So not having fans is pretty painful to us but to answer your question. I mean we have re purposed much of our marketing money. Much of our focus from it on track event oriented resort. You know weekend event To digital platform and we we put some money into our eighty w partners Promotional Ski Schedules We're talking to you today. We're talking about how you can get to read though so through twin spires. Tv G expressed bit naira bets and two dozen other eighty w partners. We've done some things internationally with fixed odds worse racing partners but you can go to the race RIODOSA DOT COM website. Run on the top banner. You can find the program the the link to the RT in live Live streaming and replay center. We've got tips and selections and we've got history and how to bet. We've Kinda repurpose our schedule. Our promotions to a digital presence changed our our pre game show to a studio show instead of one. That's live out in front of a the fans and the in the grandstand so it's You know Mike. I hope it's not the new normal. We recognize that You know there's an evolution to do this thing and to getting back to our regular normal which is a lot of fans in the grindstone. Because that's what makes radio so work. Yeah and you know like so many other tracks. You have to be adaptable in this environment. That we're operating in and it sounds like Jeff you've done just that you mentioned the wagering were folks income wager online now to help make up for the the wagering that you would lose. Would people typically onsite? But the thing I like to is that you're offering free programs on your website which I guess you kind of have to be hard to sell them but boy what a perk that is you can go there. Download the program and just watch and wager right there at the race. Riodosa DOT COM. And what more could you ask for? Well you know we're we're not teen and Saratoga and DEL Mar. We're not above the fold nationally. We have some. We have a lot of following regionally and we have about two hundred thousand people come to the racetrack every summer. About half of those folks come from Texas and primarily Lubbock Amarillo Midland Odessa. El Paso In Texas you can't even open an eighty w account unfortunately and further in New Mexico and Mexico resident while he may have a AWA account he cannot wager on New Mexico content. I mean that's a quirk in New Mexico law. It's a you know in my view. It's a travesty in Texas and I can say that because I am a Texan but you know. Our digital capability is somewhat limited. So we felt like we had to go over the line and and do what we can to promote Our product to a larger of broader audience and putting those programs out there for fans to download for free. It's an expense to us but we feel like it's worth it and it's an investment to get folks to take a look at Rideau sedans. I mean some of your third but players. That may not have seen quarterhorse racing. I would just tell you that there are. There are fewer variables. Handicapping quarterhorse racing partly. Because it's a short race and specifically because we've got a bunch of Non Starter. Two year olds that have only had schooling works which are on video and a couple of other works in preparation. So you know. Part of the thing with quarter or steel. Can I buy or breathe a better horse than you? And can we point to a race early in the summer without ever trying these horses and win a Big Pot? I mean that's the challenge for gamblers. It's following that mantra of connections breeding preparation conditions and And trying to decipher a winner. And we think we've got a good product and You know we've got a few high volume players that agree with us and there's a lot of guys like the Edberg Arts of the world that That have taught us how to best and it kept puerto racing and it's watching replays and and digging into the connections and the breeding will. I'm glad you bring that up Jeff. Because we earlier in the conversation we drew a parallel to the all American and the Kentucky Derby and if we were talking about being just over three months away from the Kentucky Derby we would have all kinds of rankings and we would have debate over which horses were true contenders which forces might be pretenders on the first Saturday in. May How about the all American is there. Are there some things there that people can grasp on to follow horses along the road to the all America or is it completely different where you have horses? Just kind of emerging. From Week to week you know even during the summer There are races around the country. The certainly the Rados if utility and the Rainbow futurity speak well to the horses that will compete in the all American but their horses come from California Oklahoma from Texas and Louisiana. That have competed well there and when you see them come to the mountain how they react to the mountain. The altitude the change in scenery the You know the thinner air the racing surface how they adapt this area in this. Climate will say a lot but typically if you look and I've done it over the last twenty to thirty years where the horses that win the All American come from it's primarily the rainbow futurity the rainbow trials or run the the fourth of July weekend typically and horses that compete. Well in the trials even if they don't qualify to the rainbow typically do well in the all American trials and and. I can't tell you why I can just tell you that. That's the case. And when they get to that quarter-mile trial that last hundred yards is a tough go. I mean the air is thin. These sources have been going summer You're looking for a horse. That has the breeding to go that distance while a quarter mile may not sound like a long distance. When you're giving it a hundred and ten percent that's about all I can. Do you know when he lucas told me one time he said look good. Horse can give you a sixteen. And he's talking about thoroughbreds can give sixteenth of a mile at one hundred percent a pretty good horse can give you a eighth of a mile but a really great horse can give you a quarter mile at one hundred percent with these quarter horses. It's one hundred percent all the time. So what you see at the wire is is what that horse is and you know a quarter mile for two year old first week of September. That's a tall order and when they do it in twenty one and a half seconds. It's It's something to see. Just a special special event in their. Ob several special moments throughout that me about it runs through Labor Day you can go to race riodosa DOT COM to learn more to get free. Pp's into place your wagers and we encourage you to do so. It's going to be a lot of fun and Jeff. True with me here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Jeff. Listen I really appreciate the support of everything we're doing here on the network and We'll talk with you later on the meat and we'll keep We'll keep people informed as to what's happening throughout the remainder of the meat to my friend. I invite all your favorite players to give us a shot. it's a fun thing to watch and if you ever get a chance to come up to the mountain we'll show you a good time. I'm all in Jeff. True here on the horse racing radio network enjoy the weekend. Jeff thank you all right then like all of our guests who appear on the program. We're going to send Jeff gift courtesy of embrace the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Don't forget that you can wear what you love and embrace your passion by going to embrace the race dot Com. I'll get through another break when I come back to your industry star of the week and I'll get you set for the second half of the program. This is the form on the Horse Racing Radio Network your home. 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And the segment presented by Stuart Morris who offers a Boutique full-service bloodstock operation. Remember Stewart. Wants to thank his owners his clients and his entire team. He knows his success is because of you and with multiple stakes horses over the past several years including Henley's joy our brain trust in Malagasy Stewart. Morris is your source for success at the highest levels and you can visit the at. Moore's consignment at all. The major sales are going to be coming up later this summer and into the fall. Well as I mentioned Kevin Tar. Your industry starved the week. And I mentioned those three stakes wins actually played the replay of all three of those four. Him and here was his reaction as I started this segment. Yeah I kind of get a little goosebumps actions. Yes listening to her. The race calls in the obviously the captivated by the EP. Taylor it was. I mean grade one. My first grade one win as a trainer so just brings back great memories and She she's just been a wonderful horse to be a part of. Why is she so special? What makes her so good. Yeah I just think she's so honest you know. She tries each and every time You know what I mean. Doesn't come up with excuses. She so tactical you know being could be on the lead comes off the pace and I mean she just has that will to win the desire and I mean just to see her and obviously we. She's a seven year old now and and she's three three and twenty twenty and it just it just seems to be getting better and better as time goes. What did you see in her? That led you to claimer in two thousand seventeen for just that sixteen thousand dollar tag you know claiming that Gulfstream's is is a tough you you go in for so many horses and and I mean we were just looking for a horse that we could bring back to woodbine maybe win a race or to have a little fun with obviously never anticipating anything that's happening now but you know when We got out for a Lotta horses prior to her and when she came along I liked their forum She had predominantly been sprinting and She had just kind of started running. I mean beyond five furlongs and and She just kept seeming like she want a little bit more ground. When I washed the replays and and I just thought you know what I may be. Stretching her out a bitchy might Might really kind of appreciate that and you might see a little bit better of a horse so we dropped our hat in the bucket and we won a three way shake for that day and the rest of the history if you hadn't gotten out shook for the horses that you tried to claim before her. Do you think you would have gotten her? How tough to say you know. Probably in all and all probably probably not got one and it might have been about bad one we would have been kind of scared to go back in again or Just kinda matter quota mean what what made the case be but I'm sure sure sure. Happy that We their shift on the other ones. That's for sure because we didn't want to take so the sovereign awards were supposed to be held in April but because of the situation would covid nineteen. They were postponed and the Jockey Club. Canada I thought did a phenomenal job putting together a virtual sovereign award presentation which was available online as you're watching the presentation and you see her name as one of the finalists for Champion Female Tur- force which I think she was probably the favorite in that category horse of the year. As you're watching that horse of the year announcement. Tell me about that moment. Where were you what was going through your mind there? Yeah so I'm in my living room Kind with my family and we're obviously watching that point so I'm kind of on the tip of my like rocking chair that I kinda got there and on the side. My wife got me kind of almost like isolated from the family because of Cova nineteen coming through the tracks. She's a little kind of a little. You know what I mean strict with some rules at the house. So he's got my own little corner set up so I'm on the edge of my seat at that moment. Waiting kind of Get Him in here. Who the winners it'd be and obviously you know what I mean. You're going up against the horse of Pink Floyd that's I mean six for six already horse of the year. So you know it's GonNa be a cold call and I it's not a shoo-in I mean. Obviously I was a little by and I thought you know she. She deserved to win her being a grade. One winner and and being a you know she traveled to. Saratoga ran a good race in the Boston. Spa so a soon as they kind of announced just prior to them announcing the name they flash up you can see the horses a picture of the Horse because the Philly come up and I could tell it was her and my son. He was sixteen Joshua Him and I just exploded. And then we were like yeah and Just embracing to be honestly. I think that's the first time I've hugged him since arriving from Florida In being quarantine in my own house where the two weeks mandatory isolation we have here in Canada when arriving from the US or out of province so it was just a thrilling moment and then my wife kind of goes through US afterward. How did you guys know she? It was her name going to be called right. It was just an unbelievable feeling and in the only thing that would have topped off honestly if I was able to kind of obviously share that moment with the owners because they've been really good to me. showed a lot of confidence by long-needed to kind of continue to train the Philly They could have given her. Anybody obviously North America But they chose to kind of keep her with me and and I appreciate that and It's I mean it's just it's been a great Great right yeah. Great Ride Indeed Kevin Itar now the trainer of Canadian horse of the year and starship jubilee. Congratulations to him and to that very special mayor into the owners as well our number two features Graham motion coming up in just a couple of minutes Terry Finley from West Point thoroughbreds with a Special Memorial Day tribute and then Dora Delgado from Breeders Cup toward the end of the show. Get to all of that when I come back right after we pause ten seconds for station identification. This is the horse racing radio network from the rail to your radio. This is the horse racing radio network. Talk Bigots Kentucky Derby big in the wrentham roses five welcome to the equine forum presented by Foreign Paint Dot Com animal kingdom. His town sing lights in the Tomas. Ascot animal kingdom on the outside. Who goes going? Ma'am I tell Nice. I'm running I'm all kingdom. When American firing line put third to the Finnish American? A fuck tugging now. Here's Mike Welcome back hour number two the equine form rolling on very busy morning getting ready to welcome in trainer Grand Motion Momentarily but WANNA remind you that if you missed any portion of the first half of the program or any of our shows you can go back to our website horse racing radio dot net. Listen at your leisure my interview with Jimmy Bell from Godolphin in the first half of the program along with Jeff true from Riodosa downs. Again those interviews available for you on our website after we finish up at ten. Am Eastern this morning? They'll be there horse racing radio dot net in horse racing radio network on Apple podcasts. A poll question of the day. The answers coming in quickly on twitter and on facebook by the way you can go to. Hr In on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook if a horse sweeps all three triple crown races this year. Do you consider them a triple crown winner. Gave you two choices. Absolutely and no way I fall on the side of no way. I don't think there's any chance that you consider them. A true triple crown winner even if they sweep while three considering the spacing in between the races But it looks like most of you disagree. Sixty three percent saying absolutely keep those votes coming in all update them later in the second half of the show. Well Graham motion is with me. Now he has saddled More than twenty hundred winners in his career. Four Breeders Cup winners and one of them returning to the races later this afternoon in the tappan that is the ultra talented. Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf winner Sharing Graham. Good morning my friend. Hey Morning Mike. Thanks for having me. Yeah thanks for spending a few minutes Look sharing was so so good last year. And let's start by looking back on that win the juvenile fillies turf. You join me afterwards. I know you were ecstatic with the performance. And you should be. Yeah I mean look. It was a thrill me especially to train to mum That was a big deal for me when shared account one churchill. So you know to come back with her daughter and essentially neater just. The Breeders Cup is so special to me anyway so I'm thrilled to be a part of it and when you win one it's extra special. No doubt all. She rattled off in a row. Capped it off with that win in the juvenile fillies turf and now she makes her three year old debut coming up this afternoon in that one hundred thousand dollar tap stakes at Churchill. Take me back through the past few months since that Breeders Cup win. What have they been like for sharing so originally would targeted the Tampa Oaks On the earth and the first time I breezed it down a Gulfstream. I thought she came back a little stiff. Not ghosting Palm Meadows. I'm sorry on the turf. And maybe she overdid it a little bit that day. I think she went a in forty eight and change The grand was quite firm so and then I put our heads together and just decided we'd get it back to the fair hill where she could train on the synthetic Which she's familiar with and kind of had the idea pointing for the hilltop pimlico on preakness we can so. We're really not behind schedule It was great when the tap and he showed up on the schedule at Churchill. So this is kind of been our targeted percents and really. We haven't had any hiccups She's pretty much pretty regularly every week and done things very pleasingly. I would say we always talk about that. Development Graham of a horse from two to three and how significant those months can be What were some of the things that you were looking forward sharing and hoping to see as she moved into her three year old season well possibly you could even say it was a bit of a surprise that she was so precocious at the two year. Old he's grown a lot over the winter. I mean even sort of before the Breeders Cup. She'd grown a lot from the summer but I think over the winter. She's really matured. I think the often you'll see sort of a much bigger mature mayor But have traits changed. Which is really encouraging. She's still very kind to be around Very level headed and I've just been pleased with her works. I've worked with rancor WHO's one of my better mares pretty regularly. It's not often that you breathe three roles with older horses at this time of year. So you know. I think that's a sign of confidence that I have in her and I think he's handled everything very well so I'm pleased. I'm excited to get US started. It is not an easy race. I mean fact that it's a hundred thousand listed race really it could be a group to In the middle of the summer. Yeah it came up really salty as they say and I had a chance to visit with Jimmy Bell from Godolphin earlier. He talked about arms who is undefeated. She takes on sharing in there But she's not the only one you have to worry about size up the competition for me. No look at the great race. It's a great betting race. I think the fact that you know Grad getting back to racing. It's tough for us as trainers and owners because the race is are so competitive but I think the flip side of that is that they make great betting races great spectator races. Very exciting to watch They're really deep field. And I think I'm sure I haven't looked at the other races closely today but I'm sure you can say that about all the races today certainly the allowance race that I mean might as well be a great three the the the boys allowance race on the graph. I think it's sufficient for tough. Yeah super tough you know. Look that's the thing I mean Ben Huffman Told me last week that you know it helps when you're the only show in town but these fields are so good and horses come from all over it it. I thought makes it difficult to get into these racists from a trainer in an owner perspective? But once you're in you better have your running shoes on. Yeah and I think we all kind of knew that going into it but I think that's good I mean I think that's It's not meant to be easy. These races and I think from from the betting public and the from spectator point watching on television. I think it's thrilling race. It I think it makes makes really deep exciting races and this is what you're going to see a bell on to. I mean this is really like Saratoga in in June oh man yeah. It's a good way to put it Graham motion with me on the horse racing radio network. Grammy Mentioned Training. Schering's mother shared account to one the fillion turf in two thousand ten I know you talked about this back around the Breeders Cup time. And you said that she really didn't resemble her mother a whole lot. How about now that? She has grown up in developed as you talked about earlier. Are you starting to see more? Shared account her at all yet. Definitely I mean he had account was kind of a big lanky mayor Very Athletic And I would say sharing kind of filling that frame Very similar type. They have very similar disposition. Very kind I mean. They were shared account with easily. One of my favorite Mez. Partly just because you had this very kind demeanor and shows that trait with her grand motion here on the Horse. Racing Radio Network is a busy morning. I won't keep him too much longer. grandma throughout that poll question on twitter. You're never wanted to be shy about throwing out opinions on twitter Looked away the triple. Crown is set up this year with those three races and the large spacing in between the Belmont and the Derby and then a month to the preakness which will be the final leg. I say that if a horse all three wonderful kudos great job. You're great three-year-old. You're not considered a triple crown winner. Obviously most people are disagreeing with me on twitter. How about you? What do you say well? I put on twitter earlier this week. that it's going to be triple crown with an asterix and I think that's true. I I I don't think you can deny the fact that if a horse is capable of doing it. It's still an amazing feat. I I still believe they'll go down the triple crown winner. But it'll have an asterisk next to his name. Yeah I think so too. I just think you know look. It's because of the order of the races. I pointed this out that in nineteen thirty gallant Fox won the preakness is the first leg then took the derby and the Belmont but he won all three races within like a month time span and now you're talking about what eleven week gotta be more than that it'd be Fifteen weeks I guess in between all three races and that to me just doesn't add up to a. I think you're I think you're disrespecting the other triple crown winners if you put him in the same category yeah. There's no doubt there's been debate over the years about whether the triple crown should be changed. I mean part of what makes the triple crown. So Great. Is that the time between the races. It's it's very tough to do it. And it's not supposed to be easy and we went to years and years. Everyone's saying we need to change it because it is so hard to win it but actually that's ultimately what makes it the typical crowd. But I I don't take you know if a horse is capable of doing it this year. I still feel that. They're going to be a triple crown winner. I don't get the criticism of what the race tracks have done. I think everyone's played the hand that held in. What's just an extraordinary year? And I think quite frankly we just be grateful that you know it's going to be able to compete in these races even though the timing is going to be odd Yeah I think my only disappointment came with not scheduling a fall triple crown with the more traditional scheduling of the racist. Which I think could have been done when you look at the NBC television schedule with with Notre Dame football. I think it all could have worked out if everybody wanted to jump into the same boat and play together At least all three racetracks and I don't think that was the case But that was my only disappointment. Naira did the right thing by making the Belmont shorter since they're going to run it one month from today you can't ask courses to go a mile and a half it maybe touch on that for a quick second grand before. I let you go because people have been complaining about their reduction in distance. But if you have a horse's pointing for the Belmont your one month away you can't get that Horsera- to go mile and a half. Can you know? I think they did the right thing. I mean the only thing you question is maybe perhaps it shouldn't have been called the Belmont this year. Perhaps it should have just been the Peter Pan and maybe we don't run the Belmont but look. I'm not questioning anybody's done. I think everyone's tried to do what? Just been excruciatingly difficult complicated year and I. I think we're so lucky to be back racing. I feel extremely fortunate running church so and really look forward to Belmont Opening. Up and I'm appreciative of all the you know the hoops people have had to jump through in order to get us back racing and hopefully we'll get back racing in Maryland next week. Said he's trainer. Graham motion here on the Horse Racing Radio Network by the way. Graham celebrated his twenty eighth birthday yesterday so Graham Happy Birthday. Thank you Michael. Graham Ocean here on. Hr Grandma appreciate the visit. My friend good luck with sharing and all your runners today and moving forward to appreciate it. Thank you enjoy the races today. Great Racing Yep you YouTube. My friend Yeah it is great racing. He's right about that eleven races at Churchill downs. They have that five hundred thousand dollar guaranteed all stakes pick five which is racist seven through eleven although stakes races and The return of sharing the return of Max `field Who was also undefeated. Sharing is gonNA tackle. The undefeated alms in that race I mean come. On what more could you ask for? And then you throw in As Graham said his allowance race earlier in the program and he's got two horses in allowance. Races he has English be just Howard You throw in by the way. They're both in the same race or in race five together. That races as Salty's is it comes in. He said that could be a greatest stakes race. Yeah really really good card at Churchill. Coming up later today Coming up next Terry. Finley from West. Point thoroughbreds is GonNa join me. A course terry a graduate of West Point He'll spend a little time talking about Memorial Day. And what this weekend. What this day means not just everybody in horse racing but all of us around the country here is we remember those who have made the ultimate sacrifice for our country Door Delgado from breeders complex. And be with me right around. Nine Forty Eastern. She will talk about Monday's grade. One shoemaker mile which is the first Breeders Cup challenge race of the year here in the United States The winner of that race punching their ticket to the Breeders Cup Mile. So we'll talk the door coming up at nine forty eastern. She'll give us an update as to how that challenge schedule is shaping up now as we make our way toward the Breeders Cup November sixth and seventh at Keeneland. I'm going to break. I'll come back with Terry Finley next on equine forum on H. R. R. N. Presented all month long by. Far PAINT DOT COM tend to equine and pet care products. Having keeping world-class equal athletes. Happy and healthy for generations. 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You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network presented by foreign paint dot com. That's always dreaming and always dreaming with Battle of midway like that. How by as they come into the vital for a long look at least making a on the side up at the second always dreaming two and a half later sixty go looking at Leah's second Benk of Battle of midway classic acquire the and the I was looking at least second battle plaza. Meyer time those two minutes leave. Five seconds welcome back to the equipment boerum presented by FARM PAINT DOT com here in the month of May Mike Pence Baron on the backstretch that was Larry Coleman with the call of the two thousand seventeen run for the roses and always dreaming getting the victory for among others Terry Finley in his West Point thoroughbreds. And we're GONNA talk to Terry coming up here in just a minute but I wanNA remind you that wagering with keeneland select is right now. 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Then Terry Finley of West Point thoroughbreds not only does he own west point thoroughbreds but he is a graduate of West Point in his served our country so terry first of all good morning and let me start by saying thank you for your service to our country. My friend so good morning. Thank you very much and Up Past that also long to all the veterans across the world And a lot of veterans in our business too so I say thank you to them. Yes so many you know Terry as somebody who is graduated from West Point in has i. I know you still do an awful lot with west point and you do everything you can to support them When when you think about Memorial Day what. What does this day mean to you? Well I tell you I was thinking about our talk today. You know. It's tough because there's so many things that we give. Thanks for and you know so. I think I think it runs the spectrum. What does does give us a chance. All of us to pause and to reflect to really give thanks to all those people in the past and that gave the ultimate sacrifice but now are serving. You know we we we think about it. And they're over two million people that are serving in the armed forces now today. You know that I mean. That's an astonishing number there. What three hundred sixty million people in America? So I think that over two million. They put the uniform on every day. It's I think a testament to our great country. You know I remember Terry Back when Uncle Cy was in the Kentucky Derby he was owned by wounded warrior. Stables chip. Mcewen I partnered with chip to host We at that time. Hris had a box it at Churchill box of six and I donated it to wounded warrior stable to host A group of Gold Star families and wounded veterans And it was rewarding things. Yeah one of the most rewarding things I've ever done and you know to to talk to those parents of the children that were lost into to talk with the veterans who had lost limbs and were just so positive and so thankful the be at the Kentucky Derby that was I forget about horse racing. That was one of the most rewarding things I have ever been part of in my entire life. Yeah so I definitely agree might get It it's tough when you try to put into words. The pain and suffering on one side but the real optimism for a great future All all those people that That are part of the other Gold Star family network. You know I I was thinking about it since the first world war there's been over six hundred and fifty thousand Americans that have given the ultimate sacrifice close. You know that that's an amazing number but so Y- of all the things you think about. You think what comes to mind. A lot for me is the fact that they've all those all those people that serving and to give the ACURA ultimate sacrifice right. They did it for us and our military now. We're going to do it for future generations and that's the beauty of America is is. We're we're constantly trying to get better I but the overriding factor overrunning thought is that freedom is not free and the great thing about Memorial Day's we have a shot to pause and to reflect and to to really give. Thanks and I do know that that means a lot to the people that Are are today wearing the uniform so I- I urge everybody you know To continue to pray and and to give thanks to the service members in our past our present and also a the kids who are are growing and are getting are going through their life that at one point in the future. They're gonNA join the military because really we need a strong military and there's no other organization. I mean bar none in the world. That's as strong and as as it is as effective as the military in America. So it's it you know we we do have our problems in our country But the one thing that every one of us can be proud of is our military and The all the service members that we have. So I You know those kind of things and thoughts really bring a smile to my face every time Every time I go into Memorial Day weekend and I'll be thinking about all those people over the next couple of days as I try to on a on a very regular basis but especially on Memorial Day. Yeah very well said and I can tell you this Everybody that Terry Finley Took the time to meet with some of those gold star families that I was privileged to be involved with it the Kentucky Derby back in two thousand fourteen and Terry I know that meant a lot to them and I don't meant a lot to you too. So thank you for taking the time to do that and You know look I mean. This is a as you said. A data reflected data to remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice. And we will do so over the next couple of days for sure And we thank each and every one of them for their sacrifices but Yeah look you are involved now with horse racing. And you have built West Point thoroughbreds into one of the premier ownership groups in the game Walk me back through how Terry Finley goes from being a west point graduate to now being one of the ownership titans in the sport of thoroughbred racing. How'd you get involved? Well I think I I spent eight years in the military but I always loved the Horse Business. I remember as a kid I worked at the race track and you know I worked on a race Horse Farm in New Jersey Colts Neck New Jersey and I always in back of my mind that if if I add a shot you know if there was some way and there was some how I could get into the business and I could in a sustainable way I was going to try to do it so I got out in nineteen ninety four And I I said you know if I'm ever GONNA I I've gotta do it now and I just remember I said. Let me give this until I was aged. Thirty five which was probably six or seven years after that And I'll I'll try to make it sustainable and You I'd say you take it back to the military you know one of the things that the military teaches you and I think is very beneficial to young kids the put the uniform today it teaches you to be persistent and it teaches you to to to push through and the and keep going and I I you obviously you have to have those traits to be successful in any line of work or any endeavor and I really think it's helped me with my outlook In the racing business especially the first of my career when things weren't as easy. I'm not saying they're easy now. But you know trying to get something started in the business where you didn't really have a background And any contacts in the business. That was a challenge. But that's the beauty of our business is everybody has a shot if you come and you work and you work hard every day you do the right things on a regular basis you know you have a shot to get In our business to a higher and higher level and for that I really appreciate the you know the business in the industry and you know what I've gotten a lot I've got a lot out of the business And I really endeavoured To give it give to get back to the industry and I see more and more people across the industry that are really intent on giving back to our great industry and for that you know that brings a smile to my face as well Mike. Yeah great words Terry and listening to you talk about the persistence aspect of it and getting started in the business and not having any contacts or knowing anybody and having to do it ronit it took me back to when my wife and I moved into the twenty years ago. Yeah and we didn't know anybody. I just wanted to get involved. I am not good around horses so I couldn't work around horses by remember sitting down with on. Never Forget Bennie. Belen Ruthie Bowen. And they took time to make a list of all of the different people. I could go talk with in in the business and they were. Gd Van Cleef and Nick. Nicholson and I'm thinking. There's no way on earth these people are going to WanNa take take an appointment with me and you know what they all did. And I'll never forget what what Benny and Ruthie did for me. I'll never forget all of the people that took the time to meet with me when I came to Kentucky and it sounds like you did things the same exact way. Well yes I would say and You know one actually. That conjures up a thought. We're not as nice to people who are new business as we probably should be an industry whether you know we're talking about people who are looking to get into ownership or or to make a career out of out of our business and I think that's probably wanted to areas of upside that that we have right we need new blood and and and news thinkers and new ways of doing things and the way you get there is as you bring people who who are new And they don't really have a feel for business and the inner workings I mean. We all know that when you look at this business from the outside the barriers to entry and the complexities are really substantial. And I I. I really do. I try to do that. I try not to downplay the fact that you know. I've been around the business for over forty years And I think one of my responsibilities and our responsibilities is to get people in to give them a good view about business and I'm not talking about just the good stuff I'm talking about the good the bad and the ugly and I think when we do that we have you a real good shot to get more and more people in our business but we gotta be nice to them up front and we can't look at them as just a new be. That doesn't really know anything about a business. That's the way we get people. I filter in. So I just bring it up as an aside talking Terry Finley from West Point thoroughbreds here on this Memorial Day weekend program Terry with that in mind is one thing. I hear from perspective new owners who are hesitant to get involved visit. Look you've gotTa have millions of dollars? It's the sport of kings and that perception is still there with thoroughbred racing. If you get involved with owning racehorses can you make money doing it and should that be your mindset going in or should you look at this as being a hobby and let's go have some fun and let's not lose a bunch of money? Well I I think the vast majority of Snow Mike. It's the ladder Very very difficult very difficult. But you know I I say to people look especially with the turbulence in our industry over the last fifteen months or so and And the turbulence in the world you know they'll be contraction of our industry. I you know to what extent obviously we'll we'll find out at some point in the future but but that's GonNa afford us some opportunities especially owners to run for bigger purses albeit Although albeit they'll be fewer racehorse book or Race tracks open so you're hoping that the economic model gets a little bit better but you know no doubt. It's a very difficult model and what I think most of the of the really good partnerships and there are quite a few of them out there or the people who get owners into the business. I think the right thing to do is is is to put in front of them the fact that this is a lifestyle investment and I think when people when they hear that and and they look at the numbers and and and they realized. Like it's it's the whole compendium outside of the financial aspect. I think they feel a lot more comfortable And they as they venture into our business and disgrace as owners. Well Terri. I'll end this interview the way I started it. Thank you for your service on this Memorial Day weekend and appreciate you spending some time with be here this morning. My friend all the best and you. Can you got like my best to you and and to the team and let's go win some races. Let's go do it Terry. Finley West Point thoroughbreds here on the horse racing radio network. Yeah some heartfelt words from Terry talking about Gold Star families in the military. And I know that that is something that is obviously near and dear to his heart as it is for so many of us out there and we remember the fallen in those who made the ultimate sacrifice on this Memorial Day. Weekend get to another break. I'll come back and talk some Breeders Cup with door. Delgado that's next on the line forum on H. R. N. Presented all month long by FARM PAINT DOT COM when it's time to paint the fences in barns thank farm paint at foreign bank. You get the industry's best. Coatings and paints factory direct at low prices. Barn pain is your source for quality paints coatings dustless arena footings and more you can purchase online or drop into a farm paint store near you with locations in heart of bluegrass country at seven hundred slain in Lexington Kentucky Columbus Ohio and Sandusky Ohio by factory direct and save at farm pain dot com. That's FAR PAINT DOT COM. 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The National HCA is a coalition of over thirty individual affiliates in the United States and Canada comprised of thousands of thoroughbred owners trainers and breeders committed to the positive future of thoroughbred racing while working to increase his popularity and uphold the highest standards of welfare and integrity stopped by the visit. Ceo Eric Camelback at the National HP headquarters in Lexington Kentucky and see what the HP? Pa is doing for you. This is Bob Baffert. You're listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network presented by farm paint com sweeping the top of the dockside following hip. Old Justin behind the leader saw what to get second there between as Tom. Durkin with the call of the Nineteen Ninety Nine Breeders Cup Mile. Silic getting the victory the only horse by the way to win both the shoemaker mile and the Breeders Cup Mile and we'll see the shoemaker mile later this weekend Monday as a matter of fact at Santa Anita it is a win in your end for the Breeders Cup Mile Division the first in the United States here in twenty twenty and kicks off the Breeders Cup Challenge series which is still in a bit of flux if you will because of race tracks altering their stake schedules with abbreviated meats and such but no doubt we will get many of those races if not all of those challenge races in as we make our way down the road to the Breeders Cup November six and seven at Keelan. Of course will be there. Is your exclusive radio home once again here on the racing radio network just one hundred sixty seven days away from the Breeders Cup and that will approach quickly Dora. Delgado was when the now she is the vice president of racing and nominations were Breeders Cup in Dora. One hundred sixty seven days is going to be here before we know it. Good Morning yes. It's coming up fast and you know we've all been like you said in a state of flux while we wait for racing to get started again You know even even though it may not have spectators attendance. Were I think everybody across the country? It's just breathing a sigh of relief that we're getting back to a somewhat state of normal. Yeah I think you're right about that talk about the challenges that you in the team. Breeders Cup have been facing trying to put together and keep this challenge series schedule intact with all the alterations and changes. You know. It's really been a complete work in progress. We've we've been very flexible with the tracks that they've tried to sort out which races they're going to have time to run which races they need to drop. Hopefully we're we're All indications seem to be that we're going to keep the majority of the challenge schedule intact That we planned out. But we're still waiting on a few tracks just You know keeneland just announced. They're having missed this small summer. Meet with all the triple crown races kind of moving around. We're we're trying to stay flexible in order to to get the most benefit out to our horsemen if we have to add a race or or drop away somewhere else where we're trying to hold off as long as possible before we had something set in stone. Yeah how important is it to get things finalized quickly so that horsemeat can make their plans. That's right yeah I mean that. That's that's we had twenty nine horses nominated for the shoemaker mile so you can see. There's a lot of interest in getting those forces into races finding that right spot and and getting those win and you're in The event at Keeneland in two thousand fifteen was An incredible very moving event. We had great participation. I think everybody would just really love to make sure that they're there at the end of the year because it's GonNa be a You know what we consider a shining beacon and the horseracing landscape but especially this year. Yeah we touched on it I guess about five or six weeks ago when you join me here on the program that the Breeders Cup is indeed still scheduled for November sixth and seventh here at Keeneland in Lexington. People can go buy tickets. If for some reason. It doesn't happen. Tickets would be refunded but All indications by what's happening here in the state of Kentucky Right now are that we're going to be good for November six and seven so raw keeping our fingers crossed and Again very much a moving target. But we're hoping that everything comes together as planned absolutely. We've been working with the state and local authorities working with a couple of doctors on on adapting. Qianlong's Kobe protocols to the Breeders Cup I was just out of keeneland yesterday. Very simple process. Go and get your temperature taken and get a wristband. These tracks have moved mountains. Getting getting the protocols in place in giving their government officials a sense of of Security knowing that you know everything's going to be done the right way to make sure we. We limit the spread of this disease. You mentioned the large number of nominations that were involved with the shoemaker mile. Coming up on Monday. Which by the way you can watch on. Nbc S N. Beginning at six o'clock eastern time You mentioned those nominations story. Do you think that's going to be the norm with many of these challenge? Races now As racetrack start to open up and start to alter these steak schedules will. We see an overflow of nominations too many of these races. I really think. Tell the the suspension of racing. Excuse me during this. Spring was A little bit of a tightening of the of the purse strings so to speak so a lot of these. These trucks are looking at you know. reducing the first values in some cases just to make sure that they've got enough to to have enough Money in the account to make sure all these states get to take place. The American graded stakes committee has lowered the minimums for graded races just this year. So in order to make sure that we keep the graded stakes schedule as intact as possible. So I think you know. They're they're definitely going to be an accelerated View of trying to get in these raises trying to make sure you've got a spot and getting them all run. You know this this race. The shoemaker mile we actually have four Breeders Cup alumni that race with us in two thousand nineteen Chad Brown sent out courses west sorted marquette. I mean I think that's GonNa be the case as we look over the summer is is really sending those horses. Where where those spots Come up for sure. Yeah taught degree emotional earlier in this hour and taught to him about Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf winner sharing returning to the races and the tap and stakes at Churchill today That card is tremendous. And you'll have many horses that are on that program looking toward Breeders Cup Challenge. Win And you're in races later this summer and into the early fall as well. How about the the situation with the international horses who may attempt to come here for the Breeders Cup or maybe even for some of these challenges Dora. What's the situation involving them so I talked with the USDA the Over the past week there's no restrictions on in any international horses coming into this country The issue comes into being with their handlers Right now there's international travel ban. We're hoping of course that's lifted fairly soon So it it depends on each track at they put in self quarantine rules. Those those handlers would have to come a couple of you know maybe a week early get clear get tested. Get all their their tests in order so in order to be here to receive the horses when they actually shipped in. I think that's a that's definitely a moving target And hopefully that. We won't have a resurgence So bad in the fall that that whatever Travel bans are in place. Now we'll be put back in as far as forces traveling within the country that seems to be a fairly simple Operation as well get your Kobe test before you get on the plane. Present those findings to the to the host track. When you get there. They'll do temperature checks and and and make sure that we're following all the social distancing and the bars not sharing equipment that sort of thing. These tracks have worked really really hard on their protocols. And it's shows yeah it does show and it's it's great to see all of that coming together and you know Breeders Cup in. My opinion is one of those major sporting events. It not just in horse racing. Obviously all of sports and you know every major sport is going through and trying to answer all of these questions now you look at baseball and college football and the NFL and all of these entities who are trying to put the pieces together. And you're it sounds like you guys are in the same boat but not only do you have to do it internally as an organization at Breeders Cup you have to get all the race tracks on board too so I can only imagine what you're going through. Yeah we've we've been in deep into contingency planning you know since this thing started. We're just trying to make sure we've we've accounted for every possible scenario going into the event And we WANNA make sure that that all of the horsemen. That are that want to send. Horses are simple comfort and and Understanding that you know not only their horses will will be taken care of it there. But they're essential stable staff will will not be in any danger. So it's IT'S. It's a lot of moving pieces but you know. I'm I'm a hundred percent confident we can get this done. Yeah how late in the game could you wait Dora to make a decision on Breeders Cup? If for example worst case scenario we had major spikes again around the country and things go back in the lockdown and just the the absolute worst case scenario. How late can you wait before you have to say? Hey you know what? We're not going to be able to do this. Yeah we've you know one of the contingency plans we of course work through. Is You know what if that should happen. What up the Derby has there on September Fifth? There is some sort of spike afterwards. Or there's some issue where the where the state says you know. We're just not comfortable having people together. You need to do at least social distancing or maybe you just have only participants attend so I think we can we can play that by ear through the Churchill downs. Meet the keeneland meet and still have time to to adjust on the fly. Pre entry is two weeks out from when horses Or started two weeks out from the event horses generally ship in the weekend before. So I think we've got time to to make those adjustments and get the word out to everybody Dora Doug Ottawa Breeders Cup here on the horse racing radio network door before I let you go. I'll just tell you that Our new puppy was sitting right here next to me at my home studio one of the benefits of doing the show from home. And he's not happy that you were Frankie. Haven't been out to see him I now. We're dying baby. He's so cute to stop out and see him. He's he's waiting for you in fact so we will definitely absolutely door. I appreciate the visit and keep things rolling in the right direction. I know you will I think for all you do. All right like all of our guests who appear on the program Doors interview brought to you by embraced the race dot com embrace your passion. Where would you love at embrace the race dot com time now for our monthly interview with the folks at four roses? Bourbon bring in Masters Distiller. Brent Elliott join me a few weeks ago to talk about what they are going through in light of Covid nineteen and he started by giving me an update. We're back up and running with steelers running the We're still bottling now. Our business centers course are still closed. Because we can't really control know social distancing of our guests and we don't WanNa put our employees SORTA guests at risk so we're just kind of playing it by ear there and that's doing our best to ride this out. Yeah it's it's been a trying situation for so many people and I know four roses certainly not immune to that. Let's talk suburban than than Brent. Now that you're bottling and everything's back up and running your job is the master. Distiller is to do what now at this point? It's about the same as ever. I've been focusing a lot. Last couple of weeks on Single barrel selections and every week is different. It's you know all the control whether it's bottling story mingling blending but last week up focusing a lot on Two weeks on sliding barrels for single barrel. So and that's that never stops whether this the celery shutdown or You know spring fall summer. Whatever it is. We're always on a lot of single barrel and we're selling more and more every year. So that's been consuming. A lot of my time here recently is going through hand selecting batches and looking individual barrels and giving those two bottling to go ahead and use for for balling single barrel. That's interesting what? What are you looking for. Brent when you start looking at those barrels part of the I guess the magic of a single barrel is that every barrel aged differently. Each one has its own flavor characteristics. So I know the consumer expects variation from barrel to barrel. But you don't want to have something that is so far different from the typical single barrel profile that you you're forcing consumer to buy something that will surprise them so you WanNa keep it within that sort of a range and that range. The flavors are always mellow smooth. That's true for all of our bourbons but we're looking for a Nice Ri- Backbone Nice. Why spice some delicate fruit of course A nice finish were caramel vanilla and oftentimes. You'll see some cinnamon nutmeg. And some baking spices come through. So I know it's hard to to taste when I'm just describing words but that's kind of the best way to describe the flavor profile of what you'd expect from a typical single barrel and what we look for in batches and barrels that we we select for for that product. Right you're the best brother. Keep up the great work and thanks for taking a few minutes. A few minutes with me here this morning on H. R. N. I thank you Mike. 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E177 Quick Responses

15 Minutes to Freedom: A Warrior’s Daily Focus on Journals and Meditations

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E177 Quick Responses

"I'm Ryan idell hosts a fifteen minutes of freedom. Your daily action guided to getting shit done. Does as episodes entitled quick responses, so sit back, relax, enjoy the content. In today's episode, I'm going to share with you how. My speed of response, altered another's perception of reality and how I actually find power in it. So as many of you may know, I get a couple of direct messages a day. When I say couple bare minimum is fifteen new direct messages with also ongoing conversations. Multiple different platforms to respond to people on ten or fifteen emails a day, a coaching business that I run a digital marketing business that I run people I care about in my life. And my family. That's not even including any personal time, creative tunnel one for myself. All that sounded way too fucking boisterous like this is not a chest pounding like, oh, I'm so great. This just stating facts. And in that there's a handful of messages that come in that I read and then don't respond to. And it's not that I don't respond to them because I don't care about them. It's because I have other stuff to do. Now it's crazy, right? Like in the moment, if you are one of the ones that are reaching out to me. Thank you for the podcast or maybe a message that I created or shared with you made some sort of impact in your life and you're sending me a message. You might assume that you are literally the only one. And I get it right, like you're extending yourself. You're going way out on a limb most likely based off of what you're used to doing here, you are getting to know me through, you know this medium called podcasting. You have some idea of what I stand for. Maybe you've consumed all hundred seventy some odd episodes. You think, you know exactly who I am, and so you get up the testicular fortitude, the courage from deep inside yourself to reach out and say something to me. Now, first and foremost, I want to say, I love you for that a dead serious. It means a world to me that you took the time energy and effort to listen to this. Pull up another app track me down on social media. Open up a direct messenger and then send me message like it's crazy to me to think that my spoken word can have an impact that great enough for you to reach out to me. I love every bit of that. But in loving every bit of that, there's two ways of these messages go. I guess to pass, they can go down. If you were connected on social media meeting, I follow you on Instagram. I see your message in my folder like you open your DM. It comes in there, but then a top right hand corner of my account inside my diem. There's this little number that keeps growing every day. Those are people that I don't connect with that. I'm not following on social media specifically, Instagram. And so on any given day, I look in there and there's hundred hundred and fifty two hundred messages. And you know, the best laid plans are always the toughest ones execute and every day I matched with I'm gonna have time to go through these hundred and fifty two hundred messages and I go through ten or fifteen and do my best and then they keep stacking up. So sometimes it takes a month for me to respond. Now that might piss you off, right? You're listening like man, this, this guy is so self consumed. He can't respond to me. 'cause you're in your mind, you're the only one. Now, because our perception is all of our realities you perceive that I sit, I'm going to assume, and I know that makes an asset of you and me. But I'm gonna assume you think that I literally sit in this office. I record podcasts. And then maybe I'd just hang out. And I just wait and just wait for something magic to happen. Maybe you haven't heard the intro to a podcast or the exit to applaud cast, but there's this thing I say on the front side and the backside that it's get shit's done. So when my day starts at four thirty in the morning and ends ultimately nine thirty minus last half hour of time I spend with Lindsay. I'm fucking going full speed. There is no off switch for me. This is seven days a week. And so the speed that I'm running does not allow me to necessarily sit in an office and just hang out. I wish it did tetris many of you fall my journey. I stacked about that last night and this morning how I need more time in my day to create and be the best version of myself that I'm too busy doing things for other people in not busy enough pouring into myself. I realized that's currently an issue and a and a bane of frustration for me. But here I post something on social media today. A picture of last October. How do I know it was last October because it's time stamped on my phone and it's the start of the hockey season here in Columbus and admittedly, love hockey back when I was in the custom clothing world actually had an opportunity to suit and become friends with many of the Columbus, blue jackets, hockey players are truly just cut from a different cloth, humble, generous funny, like just really good people and it's not only do I love to go support the blue jackets, but I have a, you know, kinder- bond or a relationship with some of them that extends outside of just watching them play. And so in this post here, I am. Standing with another gentleman that is a, I say, a local celebrity that him and I've been connected on social media for quite some time and hadn't ever met each other face to face. His name is Jimmy bell. And Jimmy played for a high, oh state. And then eventually, I believe, went to the NFL just big, massive mound of a man, incredibly gregarious, outgoing, funny, really great person. And so we meet and we can act in my wife. Lindy takes a picture and it's funny, you know, it's just like, I'm in this Columbus, blue jackets shirt, and it's memory that's, you know, commended. Idolized I whatever it is. Whatever the right term is. I'm flustered in this moment admittedly in August two white here in a second. And so let's post I post and talk about the fact of limiting beliefs and that I can't believe now is the viewpoint and vantage point that I have. I was three hundred pounds. Then it was just before on event too. I went on a vent, I went to in California for wake-up warrior. I decided no more anabolics. No more that story and very, um, three hundred pounds bloated puffy. But in the moment the picture was taken. I look at it and I don't feel that way. I'm like, man, I'm a big dude. I'm out angle in this NFL player like life is good. But here fast forward literally almost one year to the date. And I'm two hundred sixty pounds and have a whole different perception of what fitness and health and nutrition really mean at least for what serves me in this moment. And so in this post them sharing the, the recollection of what was going through my head in that time period that I was lying to myself about the fact that I was quote unquote balking because I was eating shit food at least one meal a day as lying to myself that massive amounts of antibiotics for making me healthy. I can get me closer. Some goal that I also didn't care about. I'm really just re recounting that time period of my life of that old vantage point versus my current vantage point which never really will change go forward. And then there's some people are tagging like you a little traction on the post. Great, right. And I mean, let's not kid ourselves. I use social media and market my brand my company to grow a following to get a loyal tribe. I mean, that's what Instagram is for me. And so in that the more if you don't know from the time, you post a picture on Instagram for the first twenty five minutes into Graham gives more weight any action that happens whether it's likes or comments or. Anything that can happen on that page. The more traction you get in that short period of time, the more people alternately get served your image and some I'm looking at my man is great. And young lady tags on another young man. On the post. And he responds back like, why are you tagging me in this post? This jerk didn't even respond back to me. Like I see this and man, I don't. I feel bad in the moment. Shit. Did I really happen? I really just blow somebody off. And so this fear and doubt creeps in my head like, oh, man, I'm going to be exposed. No, I don't know. Let me go check. So I slide over to my own DM. I typed on a screen name. There's nothing there. There's no message. So I messaged him right away like look, man, I'm sorry, I do the absolute best. I can and we sat story. I'm telling myself, I do a pretty good job of responding to people sometimes stuff slips through the cracks. But here let me screen shot what's going on. I don't see a message. And so I send it to them and I also hop in the main post and say the same thing essentially, he responds back almost instantaneously with you, read it. You waited almost a week and didn't respond. So I deleted it. And in the moment I'm reading this. I'm like. Get out of here. Like you self consumed dick. That my whole life should revolve around. If I responded to your message. That is literally what's racing through my mind in that moment. But I stop. I don't say anything. Take deep breaths. Put myself in the shoes of him. Think about man. If I, if I had the gumption to reach out to somebody and then I didn't hear back from how would that make me feel at military feel shitty. It made me feel bad. Now. I'm also in sales of some capacity in as a marketing growing my own personal brand. I am literally trying to connect with three, four, five, I'll say, quote, unquote influencers day where I know the likelihood of me getting a response from our social media is probably pretty low. So my fear of rejection over the years has consistently diminished. I just a numbers game to me. It's a matter how impactful I try to make my messages somewhere going get responded to in some arm. So I said, you know, admittedly, my friend, I'm sorry. What did the post say. And he shares the POS and share some pretty impactful things. I'll keep that between him and I this moment because I'm not gonna take down this post and some of you listening. We'll go to my page in view it. You'll see very clearly which one this is because I don't look the same as I look now. That's the when that he shares and I asked him a pointblank direct question. Were you upset that I didn't respond to in a week or however long it was. Or were you secretly afraid of the judgment and shame and guilt associated with what you sent me. And this man admittedly messages me. I'm afraid of the judgment. And in that moment, I'm reminded why all this really exists. This is all real time. Like I could pull my phone right now. I'll probably do it here in a moment and read what else is went on the conversation. I could feel my phone vibrating on my lap consistently is I'm recording this I, this is as real as it gets. There is no script here. But I'm reminded as he messages me this like admission of the fact that he became insecure about being judged. About why this podcast exists in the first place. It's the only reiterate the fact. I'm not too big for my britches. I hope there never comes a day that I can't figure out how to respond back to people. I truly hope that doesn't happen. Because I love connecting with you. And I love the fact that through my words that sometimes there's enough impact that you feel compelled to reach out and say something. It's the biggest rush for me in the world because here I am just sharing truthful, dumb ass things I've done in my life. And you're connecting with me telling me that you're not alone anymore. And for me for the first thirty, two plus years of my life. That was my biggest fear. My biggest thought was like, I'm alone all the time. Nobody gets me. Nobody understands what this really is. Nobody else abusing steroids, nobody else's failed businesses, nobody else's cheated. Nobody else has failed relationships. Nobody else has the insecurities. Nobody else has a family stuff I have. I got to be the only one. And through this podcast I've rise that's not true. And maybe you've realized the same. And so he shares with me that it's this judgment and I tell them right away that I'm proud of him. Because it's not easy to admit to anyone, let alone a stranger or maybe someone you hold on high regards the you're afraid of something. That there's part of your life that you're insecure about. There's part that you wish was different. Because it's not always going to be different. And as I'm looking at my phone now, I don't. I don't want to go through it all, but he sent me some some really long. I mean, it's now a couple pages. Of really impactful messages. And he's realizing the Air's in some of his ways and looking for more guidance and more help. And this becomes tricky situation from this show. And let me further explain why that is. I'm a fixer by nature. I'll even say over time the empathetic side of me or the m path in me has become more prevalent. When I connect with someone, I can actually see their pay not only see it. I feel it. It's something that is it becomes tangible to me. So my coaching business, they when there's weighty, things that go on, they get pools at me. I have to create systems around that part of my life to allow me not to carry that into my own household, my own business other aspects of my life. And so I'm compelled every time when there's somebody going through something to reach out and try to fix it to coach them through it. Because I know how many times in life I wanted someone to reach out and ask me for if I needed help. And there may have been people on the way that actually did that. I just don't recall if it happened or not. And so what happened is I kept feeling more isolated more loan in a kept, making me re reiterate and go through the same cyclical patterns of making bad decisions because I felt like I didn't have answers. So here I am with this amazing platform and you listening right now, you have made it this way. And maybe some of this, maybe you have felt the same way before in your life or you just can't. You can't get to everybody quickly enough. I don't know how you would have dealt with it, but here I am processing a real time with you that I feel badly that I didn't get to this gentleman's requests that he's going through some things and and now I want to hop on the phone and just fix it. Because admittedly I'm so fucking conference in the fact that I can help them work through it. It's not even funny. I, I say that from a point of having worked through my own issues having helped now plenty of other people work through their issues. And really making a pivot to dedicate my life to helping others. The part with this get unique as time as the limited resource. And if I hop on a phone call with every person all day long that seeks some sort of advice or input, I would have no time for anything else. No time for my paying clients, no time for my family, no time for the other businesses that I have no time for anything. I would simply be responding to or hopping on phone calls daily for ten fourteen who knows how many hours. And it wouldn't be healthy long-term. And that's the point of all all this. I disappointed this episode. Is your response speed to situations in life doesn't have to make sense. Other people. Like it's really your own. Or so caught up in a now society. We're like things have to happen right now. But you go to fucking concert like a music venue, and I was guilty this think kills me like I took my wife to Justin Timberlake concert for for her birthday. Admittedly was able to secure us some pretty decent seats. Like you look around the crowd, you look in this place and we're very close to the stage and everybody there has their frigging phone up the whole time and is just proven to the world how cool we all are by being so close to this person. Who can post on Instagram, who can get the most trashing. Oh my gosh, look where I'm at hashtag Justin. Timberlake. And we forget to just be in the moment. To just be here now. We forget that this moment in time. Sure. We can commemorate it. But there's something magic to be said to just being present with something. And not having to have the world realize your quote unquote great because you are somewhere that they are not. Let's not kid ourselves when we all hop on Instagram are insa stories, and we post that were at this cool events or. Doing this amazing thing. There's a certain part of us that wants to increase our social equity. We want to prove to the world that were so fantastic. And it's crazy. Because the man that's performing on stage. Put his pants on the same way that we did. And we're, let's one leg at a time or he sits down and wants to put them both on at the same time. I don't know how Justin Putin his pants. It's not really my point. Thing is wearing pants like you put them on and maybe to this chagrin of some of the ladies in the in the crowd, maybe some of the men you would have wished you didn't have Hanson. By say that only for some some brevity in this situation to lighten up a little bit. Because it's truly wild. Like what the expectations are that we have as a society of what's appropriate. And what are we sponsor to avenge should be. Like if someone text messages me in the first part of the day, and I get busier on calls or I leave my phone on the charger and I'm pacing around the office and it takes me eight hours to get back to them. They assume I'm now an asshole. Like that's the assumption. And I'm just as guilty on the other side. And like if a day or two passes from a phone call and I don't return it God, bro. You're right. Is everything good dot you down right now you get you upset about something. No motherfucker. I'm just busy. I'm doing my own thing. I'm living my own life. Sometimes I just don't return a phone call. It's not because I don't care what was on. The other end of the phone is not because you're not important to me, it's because I'm more important. And it's wild, like I'm bouncing all over the place. And I know this this episode is gonna be tough, one free to follow along with, but. I was travelling to a charity event in New York City. This past Monday. The sheriff events for a company I help out it's called facing addiction, and I truly ask you to go take a look at facing addiction on Facebook. It's fighting the opioid crisis, which of your longtime listener. You understand how important that is in my life is the passing of miles based off opioids and being prescribed from doctors and how that whole situation happened. Like this has massive impact on my life personally. And instead of playing on the sideline, like I jumped in and got involved. So we help them with marketing automation. Some of the things they do digitally says, charity event. And then that I'm sitting on this plane, right because the to New York City, and I'm certainly not going to drive to New York, don't have to. And I'm sitting on the plane and the stewardess starts to know go through a spiel right. FAA has requirements stewardess or steward has to say whatever they have to say every time and I don't have a front seat on this plane. I'm not in first class by any means more specific to rose from the back. Sober pretty good vantage point of everybody that's in front of me. And I'm sitting there and I see people on their phone, the see people leaning over talking to their their their spouse or whoever sitting next to them. I see people playing, you know, mess around with their kids. I see almost nobody making eye contact with the stewardess. She's going through the, you know, the things she has to say, and the requirements playing can't take off until she says them. And she gets to the point about the oxygen, massive in the unlikely event of loss of cabin, pressure, oxygen mask on a fall down from the ceiling, and you should reach up and put your own on first before you help those around. You. I like nobody's paying attention this. It's almost sad because women that's the stewardess realizes no one's paying attention. She's like going through the motions. I was not on south west, so it was not some big production was delta, and it was just back mundane. And in this moment, it jars into thinking like, and this is just such a great dichotomy for how the world works. Because society is telling us all, like reach out and help somebody else. Right. I see somebody give him a hand, extend your hand. Take care, take care of your neighbor. And were judged for being selfish. Right? Utah's a little kid like don't be selfish. But here we are on a plane. If the plane is going down, put on your oxygen mask, I because if you don't, essentially you're going to die and you can't help anybody anyways. But as a society, we refuse to put on our own fucking oxygen mask. We're so quick to Alpher helped everybody else to help everyone else around us that we don't take the time to get centered and selfish with who and what we are and what we need. Shit, just bounces around. Like it's no big deal. Oh, borough. Let me give you some. Let me give you some advice. Come on man. Like I know people that have coaching businesses. Man, I'm on one day like I own this. I'm this is tangent day. There's a little bit of like a rant day. But I people that have coaching businesses, personal velopment businesses things are doing in their life that I just can't understand. I don't wanna Tak anybody because we, we all are going. We're all in our own process of progress, right Wilbur on things, a valued at of the world. A judge or the people for what they're doing. But I'll I'll say it like this for me. I couldn't. I couldn't justify trying to help other people if I hadn't been helped myself. I, if I hadn't paid money, literally six figures now to be coached by elite coaches to offer a better for spectacle better mindset to help me fix some of my old issues, current issues. If I wasn't paying for ongoing coaching right now, I would feel like a fraud coaching other people. If I was lying cheating and manipulating on my wife, I would feel like a fraud coaching you on how to have a good relationship. If I wasn't going to the gym and wasn't feeling my body appropriately and sticking myself full steroids, I would feel like an asshole telling you how to work out. If I didn't spend the time energy and effort to figure out how to meditate up until this point, I would feel like a jackass saying, this is how you should meditate. And if I hadn't build a successful business loss all the money, Burt my life to the ground and then rebuild a successful business. I would feel like a fraud telling you how to run a business. But certainly you can fake it till you make it. You can present to the world that Chevy shit together. You can run what looks like a very successful coaching practice. You can live in a nice house and drive a nice car and have fancy friends and do all types of stuff and still be just completely broken shit on the inside. To not really have anything all figured out. And to refuse to do the deep work internally because it's too painful because he'd have to admit that you're a little bit of a fraud. It's really nuts to me. And all this stems in this moment from this post of this gentleman telling me that I wasn't asshole because I didn't respond to him and come to find out he deleted the message so I couldn't even go back and respond to it. Now, granted, there was a shift where he owned his position that makes it a lot different. But I didn't know all of that as upset into the studio to record this. So all this makes me beg the question. When your life is your response speed hindering you from growth. In order to focus on everybody else when it comes to your business, what everybody says about you, what they think about you, what's your co workers, what your family thinks about the business you either involved in or want to jump into? Are you too concerned about? It's a put on your own oxygen masks, I. I'm encouraged to stop for a second. I think about what's really important. There's gonna come a day where those people around you aren't there. Can be harsh. It's unfortunate to say this, but your parents, they're going to die one day. And hopefully it's more business sounds, you'll outlive them. Why you would want to spend years living for them? Instead of for yourself is beyond me. Same things that pertain to your relationship. Maybe maybe you're the one that's just afraid to own what you really want. Maybe you're admittedly a closet homosexual in this moment. I'm base off fear of judgement and ridicule, whatever that could possibly feel like maybe afraid to tell the world. I can't imagine the weight of that. No idea what that's like. By my urge you to put that oxygen mask on first and just jump. Life's too short to live in somebody else's shadow. Similar comes to your body. No mitt. Maybe you've created this story, this world where you're living, your body's. Image for those people around, you know, different that I used to do. I had created this quote unquote story that I was a bodybuilder. I didn't wanna be. I just want to be in shape dude, that was healthy that now could live long enough to play with some grandkids. And what I found his time and time again, when you put your own oxygen mask on first. You're able to get shit done.

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Kiaran McLaughlin Interview - August 23, 2019

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

10:52 min | 2 years ago

Kiaran McLaughlin Interview - August 23, 2019

"Nice enough to join us. Now is a good friend of the network. He'll have endorsed tomorrow. Busy day from medicare mclaughlin off all four entered on thirteen race card endorsed in the run. Happy travers caring anthony and jude here on xpress radio. Thanks for some time today. Thanks for having big big car tomorrow. Led by that run. Happy travers endorsed endorsed one. You had high hopes for from day when i remember when he broke his maiden here last year. The buzz was karen's run in his best one one against chad rams and his best one ahead of plan. You got the money that day kind of take us through colonel. What's happened happened since that day when he broke his maiden in the champagne a long lay-off just kind of take us through his career from that day that we were very happy with that race oppressing orange timeout. We usually don't have them ready remedy. I remember the first time out for r. rated stakes he got up and it was a great win as we went to the sample packs and he he was it was kind of in front of me to leave. Just kept going out by else was awkward. Behind up <hes> we've finished six beaten eleven seven lengths and had a kind of collusive and ended up sending him home and had sprawled chip taken out of ankle very small all one almost did beat surgery but then they went on and came back to us and <hes> trade berry buck up until his june twenty third six-furlong start it was you know along came from off the pace with joe allen with varying rates in advance events such amount to nine for five weeks weeks later and that was a big ask to go from suits the now great that is better than he could on weight great knowing supper and training very very well so no excuse to be good at but we'll talk about that karen <hes> <hes> the six furlongs race and it was his only race in close to nine months and it was a big effort rosario was aboard that day he rode roy eytan rotate and last time he's back aboard endorsed tomorrow but talk about that six furlongs to nine furlongs a move. We're accustomed to seeing from the mclaughlin born. No really it was about his pedigree. We've always said he wants to go along and sara to seven furlongs or mahalla eight mile sixth avenue alone hey so you aside and shot up on a and he around barriers on race check that day was wet and <hes> he ran very well. I just point to have race empty <music> out finished fourth or fifth and back out a beep tom but it was the opposite he will nowadays if we had to change them on the us as we walked three days he was on <hes> so he's really not very has he been up <hes> at saratoga okay most of the year yes. He has clean up here from the beginning he was in florida. I came up here and as duck here every day mainly dry. That's got to be nice to be able to bring a horse back up there where it's nice and quiet early on and <hes> <hes> you know do do whatever you want with him that that's gotta be cool you yes. It's our own private training center the back and it's great to get some miles al's out of unfair but you really started doing better when the track just really lost doing very well. It's just a great when you make that move from the six to nine. Furlongs catch up might be the wrong term but all you trying to play catch up with him to get him to the travers. Is that how highly you think not really. It was <hes> either one of six and a half. I guess the free go mom. Tom leap one eighth and that's the way we decided to go. Talk and jack good offense management. You know jimmy bell and i speak and look at sheets beats and look at the race and we decided that that let's actually out and see this child. Maybe a little catch up because we must somebody would have been nice and getting back running six or seven six valmont one tower but it did not we could be happy with him. Each did it worked last time. He went forty eight up enough. Good exchanged up in just a moment talking with training camp mclaughlin glenn he's gonna have endorsed in the one hundred fiftieth one happy trappers tomorrow afternoon here at saratoga karen. What's it raise like. This means you. You spend a a lot of time up here. Of course you have that greenstreet training facility now <hes> you like. I said you and your horses spend an awful lot of time. Appear what's the race the travers average mean to you well if endorsed who elected that he's he's got such great paddock me and his father getting pretty old but what's the moral twenty food so with how to dance cod argued changes the grade one winner got the best pedigree in the world views about the war and ownership and all all but it needs a lot to offer and we have great staff rob acsi gets on he's worked for me for a dozen years and the associates or you know me and my sister for twenty yes so now. We hope to get lucky can you. Can you believe it's been seven years since alpha dead heated now. I can't believe i feel like like two years ago. That amazing is i remember seeing i saw there was a golden ticket in the entries. I wanna see thursday and it took me a minute to remember who it was. I tried to block it out. I finished. I loved alpha. I finished one three thirty four that day for a zillion dollars. Oh yeah golden ticket that was the horse dead heated with alfred. I i hadn't thought about him in a long time but that was a that was a fantastic antastic day and alpha of course came back the very next year to win the to win the the woodward on a sloppy track so <hes> a lot of success zest for karnal appear at saratoga would like to be anymore one whenever it's a billion dollar person pays that was that was the day they they painted the canoe who <hes> in two two sets of silks that that was great. That was so cool yeah kind of trip you envision tomorrow. Reunited got it. Joel rose wrote them so well in that allowance wind down dompok. What kind of trip do you envision. You like the draw kind of trippy the gonna have <hes> ah you know i i think the draws is good for horse and rider and i think that <hes> tax clear us pretty quick might clear most of album and then joel find a spot y you know three or path. Hopefully we get over too much ground. Muccio goose don't might be you know press and lower taxes with blinkers on you never know he might be close. It stumbled terribly lifetime. He's listening to be a. I know they banned. It is good you know last. Two races were both out there and he's consistent nice horse. Lincoln lincoln thought he might self paced but it's a good race a lot of good work. Hopefully we have a nice clean face. In the three or four colorado the first turning it seems to be a good spot for p and not on the radio but if we if he takes us back to car the rob were closer to the room on the body but he's he has great instincts on pace rather be and how to finish because he finishes. It's so we'll leave it up to the again before we let you go donald destroyer try to grade the ballerina earlier on the card some thoughts on her. He not the place because you wanna stay <hes> earlier this the year and we want to try and get a grade one placing and it looks like a lot of pace in the race. She's doing really well doc johnny last time. I was gonna be last turner for home. She came on to finish third. He knows her now and hopefully <hes> <hes>. There's a ton of pace and again outside of maybe making runner the i. I can endorse tomorrow afternoon. The run happy travers one hundred fiftieth running see here and get his second travers. I used to win one all by yourself this time. Wouldn't it be great. We'd take that he threw because within a grade one winter could that we don't wanna be greedy. We'll take good for you again. Thanks best best of luck tomorrow. We'll see on travers day. Thank you guys job cruciate.

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Episode 32:  Online Reading Tools

Bubbly Bibbly

29:35 min | 2 months ago

Episode 32: Online Reading Tools

"I d- hello and welcome to bubbly. Ghibli the podcast about books and bubbles literature and libations authors and alcohol. We love books and bubbly. We are friends who offer curated book review section on our website in a hilarious podcast. We discuss books drinks in stories from our lives. I'm rachel and i am carmen. I was listening to npr program. Marketplace morning reports last week and the host was talking about the changes in the brick and mortar stores. In the last ten years he was lamenting of all the closings of the electronic superstore. Fry's electronics and that made me think of all the changes in the last ten years in the way that we read and by organized and keep track of our books rachel i listened to that story to and you are very right once again. I'm going to pay my respects to shelf. Ari chose my first experience with the online organizing of books but as the cigarette commercial used to say you've come a long way baby okay. Cigarette commercials being yet. Another casualty of the times. Exactly and this episode. We're going to talk about online reading tools. I just had my. I read in one sitting of the year. Wow yeah it was called the last flight by julie clark. And here's the tagline. Two women two flights one last chance to disappear eating any book that i read in one sitting is an automatic. Five looks from me so i de recommend it would. I sounds good so last week. I'm reading a couple of different bucks. But i finished a week and winter by maeve binchy and it's an irish a story set in ireland. Of course the baptist look lady that comes home by his older house and turns it into a bnb and it's ten chapters in talks about the ten people that come and stay for the opening week and it was really interesting and i loved it in. It was just so good. Now that's our. That's our sorority book. Club. book right. It's it's a little bit long. How long did it take you to read it really. It took me two days. Shut up okay. Now i kind of read it. Senator and sunday and didn't do anything else. It was so good. And now on the four wins by kristin hannah. And she wrote the nightingale. Yep so this is her new one. That just came out and right. now it's about. Oh my gosh is about the Bowl and this one. It's about this main character and it's just so interesting already. It's hard to explain but they end up going to california and it's just it's really good. It's hard to explain just like really quickly because it's already so complicated. Okay basically yeah. It's about this girl who gets pregnant and making the boy mary her. They're living in the dust bowl they literally have nothing. You know. it's really good. Though you know you. And i read a lot of historical fiction. I i really do. I love that abras. I noticed that on the bubbly biblically facebook and instagram. I asked this week i think. What is your favorite fiction book so I'm gonna be interested to see. What are our listeners. Think right now. In the past two years i think minus the nightingale really. I yeah just off the top of my head. Because i'm reading her again. Okay and i forgot how well she writes really does right. Good tonight drinking. I'm drinking a stella artois and the reason i'm drunk sorry. I was drinking because last night. John and our watching some other Something and kevin james is this. I don't know it's a new thing on that flex and he orders this stella any announces wrong. What he says our toes i. That's my irish. When i saw you when you held it up and you're drinking i was like oh my gosh sorry i just laugh at nothing will it. I'm drinking because of a very kevin. James reason i i found. I found some stella artois glasses at the thrift store that you see in the commercials and so as soon as i bought them. I bought them. Both I went immediately to the beer store. So that i could feel fancy by drinking the correct beer out of the correct glass. And i gotta tell you jeep are you fancy i feel fucking fancy g swipe it and everything now hell no brings. Are you ruining my moment. Rachel and next time. Oh my gosh yet over yourself. I have actually drinking tonight. A white seven savvy on plonk whitehaven two thousand and twenty or new zealand. And i love love lab new zealand wine. And it's really pretty. I love new zealand wine. Because i love linda olsen who lives in. That's another thing but they do have great wine and we need to grab some lower down there. Visiting her there are a lot of online reading resources. as i was researching this i was really educated on just how many sites there are that are dedicated to increasing literacy and for all ages so you and i both kind of grew up with reading is fundamental rift. It's one of the oldest and is the largest nonprofit in the united states for children's literacy and there are more free online resources. And you think for adult literacy whether you're a new reader or want to brush up on basic grammar principles. There's probably an online tool for you. How ever in this episode. We're going to be focused on those online tools. That help us bibliophiles organized their collections. Choose their books for their next. Tb are and to see what are thinking of certain books. Yes yes yes so first. Let's concentrate on what to do with that unwieldy physical library of yours so of course. Pinterest is one of my favorite online resources when it comes to getting ideas for how to arrange books on my bookshelves. All great idea yes. There are photos of books arranged by color size books by theme. You know it makes me feel so prosaic for arranging mine by author very good word by the way. Thank you wait. Let me just tell you rachel. The reason i use that word is because when i watched. You've got mail tom. Hanks use out. Yeah matt ryan uses that word prosaic and that is how i learned what that word means and i made it part of my vocabulary lava. Yes well as you know. I have a special bookcase for my cookbooks. And they're back here. They're in my studio right now. I have a lot of artwork on them. But i have them organized for me so i have like my big hardback ones. All together that i use and then i have Smaller went kinda have to size the hardback and then on the bottom shelf. I have the ones the personal ones. Like the delta zeta ones or the huntsville heritage cookbook and things like that hardback than i have a whole section for like soft covers and then i have a basket when my mom had a box and i have a basket of Written recipe cards to those are on the bottom and then my mom and my mother-in-law be Homemade cookbooks and they're in like their own little special section and i use them all the time so a little bit of everything color color size and importance. You know that that just makes me so happy. I found a huntsville heritage cookbook in my garage. When i was cleaning rollers are the tan. One shut up rachel. It's green one. No i gotta see you guys take pictures to me. I am totally going to. Oh my gosh the green. That's what one what about the green one. Tell me best a good one. I think it might be older than the one i have. Oh okay. I look at home on dan. Go look go look standby bubbly biblis listeners. Rachel is looking okay. Tamblyn naphtha one. Yeah not the green one. I've got the green. Where's your purple one. It's in there and it's it's a home acres wasn't heritage okay. This was given to my mom for my aunt julie and it was given christmas. Nineteen eighty Inscription i do. Yes okay and then look from the library of normal. What okay. i'm gonna. I'm gonna check our picture this week and include it I see a picture of the green one though. Mum's going gonna be so happy that you're excited about that. I know i'm sorry habit. Hold there is a man on instagram ages. Books to make pictures. And i'm sure there are more than just ham. But he's the one that i saw i but for example he uses books that are on their on their sides like spines on their backs and he arranges them to make like dragon wings and then he he'll lie down to be the body of the dragon but there's no he doesn't damage any of these books t think absolutely not. He is just using them to make a picture. I guy and So he also same store. Regularly changed the sword inc technique of his library. And it's just so cool to watch his process videos and on international woman's day. He took a picture in front of a little bit of his library with his mom. Oh my gosh. His name is james. Trevino and i'm going to link his instagram in the show notes. Because we're count. Yeah all of us need to blow up his account. He is fabulous. Oh that sounds like a lot of work but very entertaining and also talking about art. Gtc were jimmy bell. Oliver put something of that tower. That book tower. I mean i mean come on okay. So there's a mirror at the top and there's here at the bottom. It moves like it is absolutely unending right. Yeah that's very cole. I loved that. Now while i love to watch and see the amazing results i i gotta say. I no way no way motivated to do the same thing. So james trevino is doing is making. It is on a totally different level than then the one on which i exist. I have seen more. And more readers grouping their by series and then they'll put like their favorite action figure or funke pop character representing that series next to the books on eyecare hotter. I've seen him. Great harry potter like whole So good anyway. Yes now right now with my Library i had the old alpha by author. And so i. I put a few book and reading knickknacks and there along the way but i absolutely love all of the pictures of how readers sort and organiz their collection. If you're cleaning out your personal library. Many people donate their books or take them to the half price bookstore. Friends of the library are some of mean post them online to sell however book swapping is becoming very in right now but book. Exchanges are a great way to keep your but collection current many times. Just for the cost of shipping. Basically you list your titles. That you're willing to part with a book is requested firm. You use send it at when you receive it. You get a book credit once you find a book posted by someone that you like you requested from them and magically appears in the mail since you are shipping books. It qualifies for media mail at the us postal service and it's extremely affordable. Yes yes yes. I am a member of paperback swap and it operates exactly like this. There are three membership levels in. I'm in the cart level. Which means that. I pay about fifty cents for h. Swap after two initial free swaps. And you can get details on their website. They're called paperback but they also list hardcover as well as books on say day and my alicarte membership gives me a hundred books on a wish and those are books that i want that are not yet available but if i put it on the wish list once that tidal becomes available i get an automatic notice and then i have a certain number of days to say yes. I want that book And another. Good thing about paperback swab is that. I can put conditions on the books that i receive. For example i want books that are from non smoking homes. Me girl and i would rather have trade paperbacks rather than mass market so i put that in there to another side that operates like this is booked mooch dot com started by in the uk. By john butman at this site. You list your books you get credit towards ordering books that like. It's a little different in that book. Mitch is completely free except for the price of mailing your buck for every book you post you get a tenth of a point and for every book you send you get a whole point so if you don't use your points are you garner a lot of them. You can donate your points to a number of charities that the website works with which i love. So it's like the children's hospital an african literacy. I love that they get back. You also get a feedback score. So that encourage you to be a good book exchanger and have good etiquette. I looked at their blog and it was last updated like five years ago. So i searched on the title. Bel canto by ann patchett. One of our favorite authors to say what the website would return and it seems to be in order. It also showed one in canada and one in the united states washington to be exact. And i think it's a definite. Check it out for our listeners in europe. Yeah you know. it's it's tough to To keep a blog updated and the fact that it was oh is a little bit concerning but the fact fact that when you searched for a particular title it came up right With with immediate results. I like that Now books free swap dot com is a lot like this but the recipient pays for the postage instead of the person mailing it. How good idea. They have physical books and audiobooks and they also provide a wish. List like paperback swap. There are three sites that operate in much the same way so you could sign up for one or all of them One thing that all three of these and any others we discuss Is a huge impact. That that these have on the environment Don't often think about that. But the solvents printing collars everything used during printing all carry an impact and that is not there when an existing book is passed on one side that i found really interesting operates in a totally different way. It is but crossing dot com according to the homepage of their website. But crossing is the act of releasing your books into the wild for a stranger to find or via controlled release to another book crossing member and tracking it where they go via journal entries from around the world and they have a community of almost two million passionate generous book. Lovers is changing the world and touching lives. One traveling book at a time. That i love that. That is crazy i do too. I sent a buck i. You weren't goes. I mean you. Lisa book into the wild. I love the. I thought that too. So what you do basically. Is you register your book for free. You get a unique book crossing ide- and you print a label so they consider that label sort of a passport to track where your book has traveled so once your books labeled you can either do a controlled release where you give the book directly to another person or you can leave the book in an open and heavily traveled place like a train station a cafe or a park bench that is called a wild release. That is amazing. According to the website when another reader find your book they can enter the book crossing on book crossing dotcom report that it's been caught journal entries about your book allows you to see where your book is and who's reading it and follows where it goes next. Some books tend to stay in one region others. Really get on the move Your book mitch. Life of a reader. You've never thought you would even meet or it may just circulate among your friends. Oh my gosh. This sounds so cool as an you know i've got. I've got a kind of a list of books that i keep. That are my favorites. That i give away because i love them so much. I may just try this. I i now i'm not be All my goodness Yeah give it a try and see how it works okay. We can't forget the little free library Those are sites that are popping up all over my tiny hamlet in alabama has to that i know of so the little free library is a box. It's it's shaped like a house usually it's neighborhoods where you take one and leave one so there are always rotating books in the box and on their website. You can download plans to build a little free library they like. I said they look like cute. Little houses you can get information on how to officially register yours so it will appear on the map and you can see the map where all of the registered libraries are located. So it's really a great service for people who are too far to go to a lending library with all these options for getting books. The main question is what am i gonna read next well. I'm glad you asked. There's something for you for that. It's called wet. Should i'd read next dot com. It's promised on their homepage. That you'll discover books you love to do is type in a title or an author that you love into the search bar. Choose the books from a list of available titles and wait for it to return with books like that. I've course typed in harry potter and the sorcerer's stone. 'cause i just reading that is this your data and the website recommended. The dragon series by. Dj mchale doctor. Who feast of the drowned by stephen cole. And king henry the fifth by william shakespeare. and of course william shakespeare would come up. i let. That's another favorite of mine to henry the fifth. But you know it it sounds. I don't know it sounds kind of suspect because it went into feast of the drowned is the first of the doctor who books and king henry the fifth. I mean if you read harry potter. Do you really want to be recommended. william shakespeare. did you try anything else. Well i i did actually so i tried to but we both read recently and it really didn't like i mean i still gave it a thumbs up but it so so betrayed by emily hair henry so what i should read next does is categorized these little titles in a numbers of different ways so beach read is categorized as romance. It's a romcom so every other book in the litany with the same categories comes up. So i got this message. Sorry there are only a few results. This is probably because your search title doesn't appear with many users book lists it. Sounds like the categories and good raids know the more good rates members The the more that they place a book in a certain category the more often. That book comes up when that category is searched. That's exactly right. The website even says that. It's purely and simply debbie s i r in represents mass opinion about the books for technically minded this is collaborate collaborative filtering system using algorithms called incidents biased waiting an partly using association rules. So it's yeah yeah. Okay yeah if more people report reported as on their lesson is going to get reported more so but you know if we did you know how how read it. Just did that That the so if we got a ton of users to go in and say that harry potter was a great historical fiction. I mean that would totally throw off all of the algorithm and all of that. Yes 'cause i can't. I can see how something like that would exist based on an algorithm right. It's it's a simple algorithm for sure. So my question is what else do we have. And i've got a short answer for you. Nothing There are a lot of lists of books that people think you should read but very few if you loved this then you should read that sites but if you type in your loved harry potter then read as a search criteria. Because i tried this. You'll get piled by time magazine. Buzzfeed good rates penguin. Random house oprah and every who has ever baud right. Well i mean. At least there's that. And sometimes i even like book riot to they come out with good lists mom well. At least there's that and i may have discovered how we will make our millions. Carmen chiching rachel and the sound of our cheering fans means it's time for listener comments. We asked you. We asked you guys what you read in february. Amanda was very busy. These were her reeds. For the short month the unknown va pearson the time travelling tourists west with giraffes currently reading mysteries. Graham wilson a viking queens legacy mean. Good heavens band at you go girl. You're reading my goodness every three days. Amanda gosh kathy. Red rush by. Lisa patton betrayed by emily henry and that the estrogen veronica by linda olsen. These are some great titles ladies. Yes make an ami wanna go read more you guys let us know. Are you guys using any online reading tools. And which ones they are and they helped you of course check us out on facebook instagram and pinterest guys and visit us at. Www dot bubbly dot com. Where rachel and. I pour out our blood sweat and tears okay. Not really. but it's a super cool site and we want you to visit it and remember. Not all tools are useful. So don't be one.

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Unsung Heroes Presented by Claiborne Farm - June 12th 2021

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Unsung Heroes Presented by Claiborne Farm - June 12th 2021

"Heroes in the world of sports are not uncommon. Oftentimes thrusting themselves into the limelight through unimaginable. Feats backed by woods back. Tiger tiger woods the two thousand nineteen masters champion and breathtaking performances. Here's how you count the a three to one for the college basketball's championship trophy. It's coming home to kentucky. But behind every great hero there are others individuals who play a crucial role in the achievements of those we read about in the headline the ultimate team players content to stand behind the curtain embracing their place as a vital part of a sports success in horse racing. These are the unsung heroes. Welcome to this week's edition of unsung heroes in once again. I have the opportunity to visit with an individual in our sport who is vital to the success of one trainer in particular. And that's trainer. Brad cox i welcome in his longtime assistant trainer. Tessa boucher who is with me. Now as this week's unsung hero tessa. Congratulations thank you. how are you know. Brad's always the one in the spotlight. I've interviewed him on this program a million times. He was on the show with me last saturday as a matter of fact but every successful trainer will tell you that they cannot do what they do and they can't have the success that they have without really good people around them. And when i reached out to brad and asked him if there was anybody he had in mind who would be a great fit for an unsung hero segment he immediately sent me your information so That that i'm sure means a lot to you. Absolutely i've worked for brad for five years having respected paramount flatter than you thought that highly me. What's it like working for a guy that has all this success in recent years I don't really think about it much as far as the day to day goes because When i started for him he had you know less than half of what he has. Now as far as the number of the forces and even the quality so I don't really think about it on a day to day. But i definitely recognize. You know how far is common respect. All the hard work is put into it. Tell me more about your role with the team Well the main thing. I do which is just kind of how ended up when i Started as the two year program so every keenly Maybe a few in march but mostly during april and especially after the derby we get all of our two year old then and I start putting them through their paces and their little baby boot camp. I have over here so we do a lot of their initial works over there. Kate works All the practice that it takes to get to the point where they're ready for a gate work and starting to open mindedly judge them based on their ability and what we think they'll be good at and Whenever we have is start to stand out a little bit i've personally send goes over to churchill early on in that time of year As things go by you know coming into fall and whatnot. I'll usually end up keeping them a little longer. But the horses the scandal the muslim churchill around this time of year. Whatever you're doing it's working so don't change a thing how'd you. How'd you learn to work with young horses and and do it so successfully Well learn something new every day. So there's that i think a lot of it is you just have to be open minded. Let the horses teach you What what they need. And you can Sorry interaction So when i started out. I was Writing showjumpers and barrel horses and horses sale barn. When i was a kid and i wanted a lot about forces and kind of just how to listen to what they need. And that's really helped me in this john. Tell me about some of the big success stories that you've had. I know we see a lot of the brad cox runners and by the way. I think i've talked with you now for about four or five minutes. I haven't even congratulated you on essential qualities. Big win in the belmont last weekend. So congrats to you in the thank you. He just sent his flowers down From belmont today. They're sitting right here in the office until i send them over to churchill's pretty impressive was he. One of those horses you work with early on. Yep yeah we had him here at keeneland until we breathed. I think first or second half and He was kind of one of the chosen. Wants the very beginning as far as everybody's notes on and whether it was from like a his yearling trainer and All the guys godolphin jimmy bell and damn pride and everybody was really excited about this cold so when we got him and he never disappointed. He did exactly what everyone expected them to do. And has continued to beat that horse so He hasn't surpassed anyone's expectations. I don't think. I think we all kind of thought. There was greatness in there. What was it like for you watching him. Battle down the stretch. Last saturday well there's a lot of fulfillment on my end reasons. One is that you know knowing you helped put the foundation on a horse like that. You know. Make a big sense of pride but i think a lot of what we want. We want to be right. We wanna know what we're looking at so it feels really good to be right. Visiting with longtime brad cox assistant trainer. Tessa say she is. This week's unsung hero. This segment presented each week by our friends at clayborn tests. And tell me about some of the youngsters that you've worked with that. You are so proud of that. They've gone on to do great things. well well. there's a lot of I'm proud of all of them. If they can show that they wanna do it and get up there and win a race for us. It's it's huge. I love like a good underdog to a horse that we thought you know we like. But you know kinda normally for a while i would have to say are absolutely number one You know for my during that. We're the most proud of his monterey girl She was a horse. Who kind of flew under the radar. And we'll have we'll have a few of those every year to kind of do their business quietly. They don't get anybody excited. They never disappoint you. They're just there. And then they start running or you have a moment of brilliance of gate work where they really blast their competition away with absolutely no effort And really kind start to stick out to you and for her that that was definitely her she came in. She was just a big tall long chestnut thing with some opinions and And we just trained throughout the summer at ellis and then we actually ran her at indiana first time out. We didn't quite make the rates we had for her ls. We chose a mile on the grass because it was very difficult to get her to come out of the gate. She was very like didn't understand the purpose. Very lackadaisical about it until we chose to run along on the grass to make it a good easy. I experience and we chose indiana. 'cause we just didn't think that she had what it took to break remain at churchill. So i you raise his long on the grass and then you know. She became monoploy girl shortly after. But she's the number one like favorite of mine that we've had for sure anybody else you up. You said there was a bunch of anybody else that that's a great story about monoploy girl by the way Well by you was another one He came in and had Been through the two year old sale and was kinda underweight and just spend all the time laying down sleeping and very quiet and then as soon as you breathe him. He'd go and thirty six. No problem like when his initial work she did in hand did them really well And we chose to give them a break and that's something that we recognize. He needed even though there was really nothing wrong with And when he came back he went from a boy to being a man and he ended up putting a good series of wins together and becoming a ninth grade and stay course so i would say that's another that's another Kind of a horse that lay dormant for us that we trained quietly drought the summer and ended up being a really nice horse fantastic stories. How did the love of horse racing begin for tessa boucher My dad actually used to take me too long acres. When i was a kid and he took me several times for the morning works. And that's kinda where. I got hooked on racing. You can send us address and Yes and he ended up Being a you know he's a two dollar better and so you would take me around. We make all are two dollar beds. And when i went to the morning workouts i thought that was the most magical thing i'd ever seen These people getting paid to these like amazing creatures. And i've been in pony riding lessons for a little while. But i have to say like i think i was eight or nine when i first saw arrays on the track and i was smitten after that so i grew up writing all sorts of different types of horses green horses. Older horses jumpers hunters barrel horses. You know typical horse crazy girl. But i moved to delmar. When i was about twenty and i worked at a restaurant called the brigantine. Which probably many of these listeners know overlook the training. Track at del mar. And it's right on the corner of via della levine pacific coast highway and they're famous for their fish tacos. So i would sit there policy my silverware and watching these horses train from the windows and i told the manager the next trainer that walks in that door. I'm an asking for a job and it was actually bought has junior and pointed out in the of course i didn't know anybody was. I told him. I want to galbraith horses. And he was like well. I could use some help. And i think i made up. Maybe a little saber to about having ridden racehorses before you know hindsight probably did that opportunity come and job horses. And i got licensed and i worked for the entire meat and i mean it was a dream come true i mean i could not wait to get up. The track opened at four thirty every morning at dawn in del. mar at that time and I cannot wait to get up at three thirty in the morning and make my way over there to do it and then go work my other job an hammered with it. So i kind of progress from that to moving to the to Actually started going to cal. Poly pomona and started galloping santa anita and that was very difficult which for me and And i really had to learn. What was that. at that point. I went from jogging. Horses to galloping for wayne lucas. Who really helped me out You know he's the coach co teaches. Everybody and that's kind of how. I got hooked. How did you end up. Brad cox After graduating college in california and Trying a little bit of an office job and trying to get away from galloping. I moved to oklahoma to sail. Prep quarter horses. Actually your lungs and Eventually made my way over here. And i was actually galloping for procter and working in the clubhouse at keeneland and kind of doing sales on the side you know for four star and whatnot and And i I saw brad one day. And i'd met him at a sale and asked me you know. Oh you know you're going to go back to Or you can go to fair hill with procter and i was like. I don't know i'm just going to be here for you. Know for a while staying with my dad hanging out. He's like oh. Do you wanna freelance them. Horses and i told him sure. And i saw knocking. Ally saw the direction his business was going and i saw an opportunity for myself to get back into assistant work Which is what. I've been doing in california before i left and It turned out he was looking for somebody and was eating to start expanding. So that's how i started and that was About five years ago. Fantastic stuff from tessa boucher again. Five years as the assistant trainer for brad cox tessa. Before i let you go ask you one more question. What's the most rewarding part of your job That's a really tough one. I think a lot of people would say just winning the big races. And i think that that's Definitely one of the most exciting things. But i get a lot of personal joy from watching. These young horses developed into something so whether that's They break their maiden special weight when at one point we weren't even sure they'd make it to the races or whatever that means they went on a little stake when it's a horse who couldn't outrun your i as a two year old And they end up winning a stake of a four year old or something like that. it's all the victories. I guess it's the small victories in a way. That is the thing that keeps me going the most that i appreciate about the job the most well. I can tell you your enthusiasm for the sport and for the horse is contagious. And i can see why brad aunts me to have you as a guest and nominated you for this unsung heroes segment very deserving. Congratulations it congrats. On all your success. And and let's keep it rolling found. Great mike thank you so much. I appreciate it testify. Here on the horse racing radio network. She is indeed. This week's son hero presented by clayborn very very deserving. I'll be back with more right after this word from kleber eclipse champion blame among sires with less than ten crops. He has more grade one winners than any stallion standing under one hundred thousand dollars including grade one winners medal. Marley's freedom fault abscond and french classic winner singa plus these recent standout performers with success on the track and with yearlings bringing up to four hundred thousand dollars. Disproven son of arch is truly a gold value stallion glade standing at claiborne farm.

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SLU Basketballs Travis Ford  December 1, 2020

Scoops with Danny Mac

15:30 min | 8 months ago

SLU Basketballs Travis Ford December 1, 2020

"Welcome in to my podcast with the head coach of the saint louis university billikens. And that is travis ford. They're off to a great start. they are to know. And they'll take on arkansas pine bluff this weekend before you hear that visit with travis. Ford let me tell you about a brand new sponsor describes with danny mac dot com. And it's the doctors a blue tail medical group. They are some of the nation's top experts in the fields of sports medicine and stem cell regenerative therapies that when people hear about sports medicine they think disabled list or surgery to replace joints. So that you can't throw a football for six months well blue tail. Medical group can be a great alternative to orthopedic surgery. Doctors bays crane and wolf are experts in stem cell. Regenerative technology doctors from all over the country travel to the chesterfield valley. Just learn how they do it. They're right here in saint louis. 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You heard it here on this podcast or visit find out more online balu tail. Medical group dot com. That's blue tail. Medical group dot com. It is always great to catch up with the head coach of the saint. Louis university billikens off to a great start. They are two in ohio. Really impressive win. Over the weekend against lsu their next game will be saturday as they take on arkansas pine bluff and you can see that game on fox sports midwest and Coach ford. it's always great to catch up with you. Hopefully everybody with the billick and family and your immediate family is safe and healthy. And you're doing well. How are things going well. Things are great. Appreciate it Appreciate you have me on. Its you know we're we're doing as good as you can do. During these times it's You know you just try to the first priorities. Try to keep everybody healthy and right now That that we. We've done a pretty good job of doing that But yes my family team. Everybody right now seems to be doing pretty well. Appreciate your asking coach odium. How do you have practice. You know how are practices done. How explain to folks that are listening right now because you've only played two games. She'd been practicing a a whole bunch. So how are practices done right now at the division level with college basketball. Yeah you know no different than a lot of people. Things are different You know the things look different. They're done differently When you walk in practice you'll see kind of a makeshift locker room in the in the gym We're chairs set up about ten to fifteen to twenty feet apart or that's each player's kind of their own locker area That they they of get ready to practice their You'll see the coaches all the coaches and managers and everyone are in mask You know we're there is no locker room so you know. One of the biggest adjustments for us as we've always i've always taken A lot of pride and spending time with our team off the court in the locker room just token about life in general talking about our team doing the all those little things that i think has been able to give us an edge. Those things just aren't existed right now So you know there. There's a lot of a lot of differences you just as we tell our team every day you've got to be prepared to adapt you gotta be flexible You can't You can't get overly concerned about things that are out of your control and we try to win each day. We talk about that win today. That needs to be the best. You can't today because you just don't know exactly what tomorrow may look like didn't have the truth How about going through film you know i. I know that you breathe. Eat sleep watching basketball watching film so you. You're probably struggling with that In terms of going over film whether it be with your coaching staff or with your team in breaking down film. How do you try to do that with your guys. Yeah you know. It is different We're we're just not getting to spend as much time as we used to with our team away from the court it's not even close Film work You know we do get to go into lorne zanies which is a little bit larger area in shape it's arena. We do get watch film in their everybody. Social distance apart the individual field work is not quite I is available as it used to be. you know we like another thing you know middletown. Is you know this being part of a team and everything just getting to spend time and eat a meal with your team and things like that used to be a great time away from The competition part of it the stressful part of it. We haven't eaten a meal together And over six or seven months It's been a long time. Everything is boxed up you take it to go Or guys meals that just the the time away from the court is what i kinda miss again to spend with my team. I used to have them over to my house a lot. Then just to get away and spend time Those things are not there and we're we're anxious to get back to those days. How about What you've learned in the first couple of games about your team coach. What have you learned in the first couple of wins about your team on the floor. Well i think we've shown that You know we. We've had instances where we can really defend thought the first half the game. We defended as bad as well as we possibly could help. You know i you eighteen points and a half. that's stuff to do against any individual and team You know we. We've shown we can put the ball in the hole in different ways From from the three point line from getting to the rim Getting out on a fast break which is a strength of ours. we've show we can just score. I think different ways. I think once assan fringe does get back You know obviously are inside presence Be even more. They're even though. I think martin linson and jimmy bell done incredible job just an amazing job. The last couple of games have helping our offense flow helping our offensive continuity. Those guys have been terrific inside force. When i signed has been out And then hopefully debt we just gotta get you guys back healthy but i think depth. The is going to be a positive for us. I wanna ask you to about his john. He's been out with a concussion protocol. How has he been faring with that He's doing find now. He he was back doing some non contact drills yesterday. We are expecting back today for for for contact practice and hopefully pretty much a full practice. So he's doing much much better good One of the guys said that really stepped up. And we're anticipating really just a tremendous From him if you're billick and fanhi so smooth he can light it up. He's a score and that is devante perkins. He is the eight ten player of the week coach. This guy is a player What have you seen from him in the first couple of games. Well we've really challenged him for whatever reason early in practice. He wouldn't asserting himself offensively the way we wanted and needed and the last couple of weeks Really been challenging even really being on him about really You know you gotta you've gotta really aggressive offensively and he has done that in a couple of games You know ju- bundy doesn't such A quiet style. i'd say because he's so kinda unassuming. he's very quiet individual to begin with Very funny guy. Very very funny but Has a kind of a shy mentality to an extent and i think his game is like that. And that's why it comes across a little unassuming it times and kinda can sneak up on opponents which is great But he has the ability to score In just about every way our team understand that we need him to score. Everybody in our team has a job to do Whether it be rebound defendant. Whatever it may be. Everybody's got their role in their job to do. His job is to score the question about it. That is Number one on his resume for us is to go score buckets especially when things are breaking down. You know we can run sets and things but when you have a guy when things when the other team has scouted you or play has were whatever it is in the middle of play you have a guy that can just break somebody down and go get a bucket. We call it kind of the x That's a that's a real strength than he is. Definitely the x factor. When things aren't going well get him the ball and you know and Good things happen. What have you seen out of jordan. Goodwin he had two straight double doubles no surprise there kind of picking up where he left off in and what is he done with his game. Two to improve himself and his final year and ability in uniform. Yeah make no mistake. During goodwin is a heart and soul of our team. You know we kind of go. as jordan. Goodwin goes an essay that because of his incredible leadership and how much our team every player on our team follows him. And they feed off him and his energy and his passion and competitiveness. For the game So he you know he's the heart and soul of our team Just one of the. Maybe the best leader. I've ever coached because he does it every day. He does it by example of how hard he plays. He does it by talking and he's constantly talking he never he never lets up in that area of the most vocal guy on our team and he does it with. Great passion So he he's. I couldn't be more proud of jordan in how much he's developed especially in that leadership category But no question Our team comes and goes jordan. Goodwin does my guest is travis for the head coach of the billikens coach. What's it been like for you and your kids Playing with with no fans. Have you found it difficult. If you founded different. Heavy founded a tough with the motivation. Factors all those things. What's it been like with no fans. Yeah it's been a lot different. That's for sure we would love to have a pack shape. It's arena and i know we would. I think everybody would love to watch this team play And i it's it's strange. It's the most strange when you walk out before the game and you know two three minutes guys been a warming up. You're walking out That's the most drink once. The ball's tipped up for myself. You're so locked into the game. that that It doesn't seem quite as different. You know you always want that lift though you what that fan motivation that That we can't get right now a lot of times down or whatever it may be You know the fan give you that list. So hopefully we'll be able to get fans in shape it's arena arena sooner than later There's not obviously a timetable for that But we're hoping sometime in january. We can start getting fan. That's just my own hope Haven't heard anything but it is different. That's for sure now. Coach got to be honest here. Do you have to bite your tongue every once in a while would something may slip a little bit. Things can fly a little bit in the heat of the moment. Yeah quite there the mask covering up the language quite enough No i've had to catch myself a little bit at times You know Understanding that there's still a few people in there working and things like that they The I've got to watch it. I got you and in a final question for you. Coach is the is the schedule. Is it a state of flux. always. I know it's done for the most part. I think you have one game that you maybe could fill correct me if i'm wrong but is it. Is it always in a state of flux at this point or how does that work. I you know. I get asked about it all the time. So i'll ask you is it. Is it a state of flux. Are how does the schedule were still as we play and and look at early december it. One hundred percent is is in flux to an extent. You gotta be very flexible. We do have a game. We can play with right now And we've been trying to work on it every day. People would just be amazed at what were you know how this is all coming about Scheduling people are scheduling one day and play in the next It's just craziness right now and you know And and you gotta do things that make sense for your team You know you wanna do that unless you wanna play games. You wanna do things that makes sense for your team Obviously coming off the lsu win it gets a little more difficult. It seems like to get some games But you know we're still working on it. Things are going to change. You know not only do we have a game just if if percentages and everything stays the way they are. We're gonna lose a game at some point you know Somebody's wrote just yesterday the day before. About the average number of teams that are going into quarantine right now. That can happen to us as much as we're working on it every day tiller team we have about a fifteen minute talk everyday just about trying to stay safe and all the things you can do but always end up by saying guys we can be perfect in something then some and something could happen. So there's no guarantees but we we do predict games will be canceled a game that we have scheduled probably will be canceled for whether it be on our side or on their side. And then you gotta go out find. Hopefully something that can make up for that but it's just every day which is so different than ever before obviously about scheduling probably. I've been in the office since old. Seven o'clock this morning we probably talked about scheduling fifteen twenty times as a staff about different things and this happens every day. It's incredible coach. Hang in there. We appreciate your time. I know you're busy and stay safe. Stay healthy and Continue With the success that you've had in the early portion of the schedule and We'll see on saturday. Thank you so much always enjoy. Thanks for having me you got it. That's the head coach of the billikens travis ford.

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Part1:Brad Cox, Brian Lynch

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Part1:Brad Cox, Brian Lynch

"Sirius xm sports presents raises with steve. Big horse racing handicapping interviews. This is steve a very good wednesday race fans serious to nineteen exempt to a one sports zone. Nine sixty four if you're listening to siriusxm online and at our website dot com all viable options to the tune in and enjoy three hours of wacky hijinks When wednesday's you're funny because it's it's like a hybrid day it's what was what was the great For years to they still do on jeopardy the potpourri potpourri category odds and ends. You know it's a little. It's a little bit of weekend. Recapping is still going on. You know we didn't get to there's At this patient of this weekend which is going to be tremendous The saturday cards and they should be. They should be engaging. We've been talking hitting listened. Andy a little bit. We touched on the gotham. And what's going gonna go on in new york on saturday but Obviously big cap day. Santa anita is going to be by all previewing and hinting based on participation. well it should be spectacular. San felipe a big cap saint carlos Kill row where. There's worse as assembling for the mile and and of course tampa and i'm looking forward really looking forward to getting mardi back on. Finally martin mckee heading tampa. So we'll look forward to the weekend action tomorrow. And friday and today little bit of everything including including a very I expect a very good Pedigree and breeding our between ten and eleven. Of course it's sire watch pedigree focused brought to you by hillsdale. We'll talk to said. And i i mean i don't know how much more i don't i don't know how much more gilding of the tap it lily. We can do a central quality and greatest honor of course with their success on saturday. The to tap it sons and We'll look again maybe at the female families but There there there's some other some other aspects obviously of what went on and We can we can touch on a couple of others from the weekend. That kind of jumping in. But i i do have to say it. It's been there hasn't been as many eclectic parentage. Some very dominant lines right now that and individuals that are really by just you know topping the charts as as it were the second half of our to really looking forward to bet. I've been kind of hinting at this for for a month or more. Maybe a couple of months laura Visagie is going to join us from rock. Ridge stud down in hudson and Want to get some regional. Breeding programs represented and Some of the outfits and we happen to have volta rinne is at rock ridge. And she's carrying the motown baby. And i haven't even asked about a scan and and what you know what what's coming failure or colt. But laura has got her down there and she's actually she's going to be. He's going to be delivering here in the next few weeks. And we've also with the retirement of carlisle bell. She's there waiting for What we're gonna do coverage wise with her. And in fact she i think she may go to kentucky but that's not that's not written in stone yet But laura is gonna join us as well. As his stallion manager erin robinson and talk about the program at rock ridge and lorraine is one of the most respected managers owners purveyors of you know boarding and maintenance of of broodmares and then on the stallion side of things has really assembled a outstanding regional lineup. and in fact with doug o'neill just yesterday. I happen to mention frank. Conversation and frank conversation is there. Who's a dual really a dual purpose. You know the baby's irv are just getting are just going to get to the racetrack. This year. from his two year olds So you know it's it's early yet but You got to expect that he's going to get both turfan and dirt runners. He himself was adept at at both. Disco partner you know who just entered the start last year. And the anticipation is that he's going to be. You know an heir to the disco. Rico success i mean this go. Rico was unbelievably prolific in a given the opportunities that he had and Talked about him many times but I'll let i'll let erin and laurey now. Kind of dote on their lineup. Also includes micromanage the medallion doro son and giant surprise Who's one of those one of those really quiet useful stallions that just gets runners just gets nice runners and it has kind of a a. You know a breed to race type of a stallion choice. there's also the he's also got a couple of eclectic names that are not as probably well known to people including Asian forward and the forest wildcat son and leofric who's new last year and There's also slumber The cacique son and Anxious anxious for laret and erin to kind of fill in the blanks and and talk about their program at rock ridge and the beautiful. They've got a beautiful farm and grid tremendous facility so Breeding and some regional conversation. New york they start with an advantage. And that'll be the middle part of of the morning. Seth merrill later we're gonna talk to chris griffin and we've got a recap saturdays texas action with chris and will look at tonight at sam houston and speaking of some of our favorite regional tracks. Eric hallstrom is gonna stop in as well. I wanna get eric on if you saw the news yesterday but this kind of kind of a pre meet preview. it's amazing. Indiana is literally weeks away from starting. Just frankly that's that's that's good news that means Spring and summer are are nearly at hand But the the racing commission rubber-stamp Some of the requests by indiana grand. Yesterday and i'm gonna let We'll let eric kind of fill in those blanks because They've done so many things that in in response to their conversation with horse players and they are continuing to whittle away and lower takeout and They also adjusted some rules. That's the need to go over in terms of multi-race wagers and the turf conditions and Eric doing everything he can think of to support the players and respond to player needs and requests. So the looking forward to a visit with eric hallstrom. First our in here Between now and i don't know nine forty five give or take We'll get a quick hit. In with brad cox. I didn't want The winds by montemar girl and essential quality to completely. You know we. Obviously we talked to jimmy bell about essential quality but want to get brad's thoughts. And you know how they came out. And you know the perils of of bringing horses back on wet tracks there. There's no set of of connections. That wants to bring horses back over a loose racetrack. I mean you hold your breath every single time and you know that that goes through the race and then cooling out and then overnight and they're taking the bandages off in the morning. I mean you just There's there's no more perilous especially when you're talking about the horse's like this So we'll talk to brad and we'll get a snapshot and some postscript and by the way speaking of jimmy bell and the godolphin team The the other shoe did drop yesterday and To know great shock or surprise mystic gathered will go to may dan and contest the world cup completely. You know completely logical you you completely. You can understand this decision by The godolphin team. I mean to have to have it worse like this. And when you when you're having 'field and mystic guide a both you know seemingly inform and and and highly prepared for top assignments. Had you not send at least one of them so Mystic guide is going to go and it pretty irresistible for for their organization can understand and of course they've got max field running saturday in the big gap so Both of their handicap division horses with the big opportunities and historic kinds of races. So happen to see that yesterday. And i you know. We talked to both men and jimmy fallon i. I won't say that that that steadham was reticent about going. I think he i think he kind of knew that that that was in the in the offing brian lynch. I want to get in. Because i lynch has done it again That phantom currency. I've not talked all that much about the mcdiarmid. And you know. Here's a another older horse that that brian has fashioned graded stakes success. And and he's a gelding so he's not going anywhere phantom currency but it's a nice win for jim and susan hill and this is a horse. I'm anxious to one of the reasons. I want bryant to kind of walk through this sources career a little bit. He's he's had an interesting development curve. the starting a short dirt and then trying very distances and opportunities on the grass and then even a try in the clark where he was You know the leslie priced. I mean he was hundred fifty to one but You know they took a shot Of a performance at churchill in october and Off the turf and you know in terms of distance and you know and and style. He's a front runner. And you try different things and you. You know as i kind of discussed a little bit with with shook About scarlet sky Yesterday you try different distances and the it seems like at the age of five and he's only this was only fourteenth start. Phantom currency seems to have found a niche. And this you know this middle long distance mile and three eighths of this case the feels like She's got them figured out so And then it's gonna you know from a mile and an eighth to a mile and three eighths me you know. See about a mile and a half. I don't think he has. He got a mile and a half. Yeah that came with last fall. He tried a mile and a half So it just. It's fun i. It's always fun to hear. Trainers perspectives on finding a niche for their horses. So we'll get a little. Brian lynch in here as well this morning. I've got I got lots of little tidbits to weave through as well including some of the some of the weekend news including contest. Gotta get gotta get those in Five qualifiers will go through those and as we Case maybe reach for. Go ahead and reach for For brad cox. He's got a perfect opening right now and We'll get him in. But as we do that. I got to mention this was on the desk for For a couple of days. And i feel badly because know i was a fan Senior bus cadore. He is he's not going to have a derby try and feel bad for the peacock's And for todd adventure. So he's got he's got a strain ligament strain so no no next. Try though rebel or such for procedure. Cadore dorfman i can tear up my my digital future wager as well except for those that have got essential quality future wagers. They're still feeling good. Brad cox giant joins us here and Brad nice weekend when you bring back champions and the they run to expectation and i guess you can exhale after essential quality and monoploy girl comeback successfully. Thanks for having me on. Stevia kind of You know good to get some relief some pressure with getting through the weekend and the weather for sure well and explain that i kinda hinted at this. You know when you've got horses of this quality and you know you do have schedules. And you've got goals in mind you know. Certainly the ones. I central quality are are chiseled in stone. The ones for montgomery girl probably a little bit more fluid although the apple blossom there's a great one intermediate goal When when you're dealing with racetrack that are just inundated. Wet and loose and a mess it. It's distressing I mean you talk about you know getting through and then you know watching to make sure that you know nothing's gonna miss after their performances and there's obviously the weather hot springs was hit with more snow than they've ever seen or more slowly fina in one hundred years so if Was it was kind of you. Know tough to get through the. I'd say the middle of february through the indus february given the weather and the postponement of the races but And i i don't think it really affected either horse It certainly didn't seem to They both are in their races. you know and and came out of in good shape so like you said it was just kind of good to get the first step for for both horses. And they're twenty twenty one km pain Kind of out of the way. These are racist. We've been targeting for You know basically since Really probably december Essential quality probably right after the breeders. Actually since the first in november so you know this was our first step towards you know. our march for the triple crown in modern worst case short-term goals apple blossom regarding essential quality. And you you made it clear early on in fact. Jimmy bell said this on monday that you had expected and and were planning for two preps what before derby what goes into that decision. And how you know. How do you essentially gauge. Let's say in december that you know that the horse only is going to need to come back and run twice You know what goes into that why they're all different right. I mean i guess it just depends on what they have accomplished. But you know i think with a horse like essential quality. You know showed brilliant from early on as far as being able to win going through recorders and then stretching out at the great one level to mama sixteenth and then back quick and the breeders cup. So i mean we do a lot of this horse over very short period of time. He handled it all with flying colors and honestly got better the more we did with him so that they give me confidence moving forward. That like if this is our kentucky derby horse or you know if he's taken of course you know he got so much out of his two year old campaign in such a short period of time you know we would definitely want juice lemon and you know having the best he could be hopefully the first saturday in may and You know i just felt like you know to to racist race off of you. Know somewhat of a layoff not like not as if he was turned out For thirty days or anything he stayed in light training afla breeders cup and and continue to march forward and just thought it was the best game plan for him I like the idea of him being at the fairground shipping to oak lawn. And they'll back to the fairgrounds. I mean you know. It's it when these horses can handle things like that. It gives you confidence that they're going to be able to handle large crowds Hopefully large car large crowd derby day In and and can you know big fields. You know that they can handle everything thrown at them. that comes along with the trail. So That's just where i felt. He was competent. Jimmy was on board with it. The good often team was on board with with you know the to starts And i think it you know so far. It's worked out extremely offering. How has he grown changed. since november You know he he's really I think he's gross filled out a good bit He's you know he's he's always been a very Smart forward horse He's always a lot of confidence and just honestly just seeing more of the same He he's he's just he just never seems to get tired. You gives you a lot of confidence. Working gallup outs are always really good and i. It just comes easy to him. Really just a very gifted horse was he liked to be around the off hours. He pretty good. I mean he. He's he's a colt You know i mean he. He really likes peppermint. He's definitely spoiled but he definitely You know he's a cold. I mean he he's he'll he'll jump on you or or you know. Take a bite out of if you allow him to but he he's he's aggressive but he's a very smart horse we we just called him one period oaklawn. Sometimes we school. You know two days out day out of the race but you know he. He did well enough. And i felt like just watching him. Two days out schooling you know. He was sharp enough on his toes. Didn't really take that away from me and You know he was really good. Race day handled everything extremely well and just mentally You know couldn't ask for for You know him to be doing any better leading up to the south west and then after the southwest and and you know everything like louis just the way wrote him in the race. I mean he was able to. You know african to go get in a position than shut offs going out the back side and then range up and you know kick on down the lane without really being You know obviously ask but not really gotten after so You know he he he has that mentality. I think that you know. Hey i mean roderick can ask him to be involved and then shut off and then you know placing wherever. He needs to be to be effective in a race. Well he he's been effective of every time you've let him over that That's a nice. That's that's a nice situation. I'm sure you saw a lot of the handicapping and discussion going into the race. And including for me i. I kind of thought that jackie's warrior coming back in this spot and Potentially especially over the wet track having an opportunity to get a strategic edge. And maybe you know maybe have a an easy and loose lead Plus you know being you being down inside and potentially you know knowing that you know this is not the end goal but you know how. How much did you know. How much of that did you see and think about and how. How important was it to win this or or was it just a case of you know. Let's get this portion of the season kicked off. It was one of the things where i mean. Obviously ordering the form like a lot of people and thinking you know if obviously jackie's warriors a fantastic course and he's a bill greg on winter too and and You know favoring the breeders cup so deserve to be accomplished so much super short period of time and you know there was definitely a question as to there would be much pace up front if he could get loose Like you said sloppy track money. Track up but it worked out Horsa overcame it Once again lose able to put you know kinda maneuvering exactly where he needed to be. And and the horse responded. Well he's able to take care take mine. He's taken dirt before He's he's already source mentally. Seems like he's he's he's got what it takes to be You know hopefully Triple crown contender. Well certainly You know based on everything we've seen thus far and when you talk about the contender this is a good spot for me to mention that The next round of derby futures Is out and He is seventy-two and the The choice going into this weekend and of course There's there's quite a few that are are going to run Including life is good and Nina spirit and more this weekend But seven to to the lowest price the favorite in the future wager. We'll we'll talk about smokes candidates in a minute but let's slip in the sunday and You know kind of a kind of an interesting and different scenario with monoploy girl Given you know the the new ownership and talk a little bit about you know the dissipation and you know getting getting her race Out of the way. Yeah you know. I always a little nerve wracking Running monoploy girl for me anyway just because of her a great record and we're just trying to keep it intact and and yeah she's She's special really ran a big rate so it was a little concerned. Maybe at the quarter paul. She didn't come up to those horses quite as easy as thoughts You know she seemed to get over the tracks find But the way she was impressive late. I mean she really kicked away from those horses Really in the blink of an actually went from being head with them to being. Three in front You know so quick And then you know. She just did her usual. I don't wanna get too far away from the company So you know it was a positive to build off of. We got the one inner off the lay off and you know. I think that you know like we've set for a while now. The the apple blossoms are short term goal and She has one. We did shift back to fairgrounds and trainer there in preparation for the apple blossom. Very nice and the you know the the opportunity to have her back as a six year old with something of a you know of happy luxury. Yeah for sure. The happy luxury surpri a surprise for show well and of course The my race worse team At over gulfstream The the return of stormy as well so both of Both of those projects Successful Through the weekend a couple of other. Let's hit a couple of other names and and performances. I i don't know from betting standpoint. If you thought about it this way. But i i was a little surprised owen. Dale was as fancied As he was in the razorback i didn't. It didn't seem on paper that that he was supposed to be even money in there now. He didn't like he was even money either but he ran well. I think he had a little bit of You know down inside. Probably not the best place of the racetrack. We're gonna you know. Just obviously not his greatest performance but it wasn't bad he came out and good order. He's very sound hoarse and run. I think twenty one times now. So you know. We'll continue to press for him. Not sure where he'll land up ended up the handicap not necessarily On the agenda or locally. Yeah yeah it's a possibility. Yeah for sure it's definitely An option a couple of other efforts from the weekend and one that might have a couple of actually that might have gone a little bit under the radar given you know some of the bigger. The bigger stakes. I thought that you have to be pretty happy with going good. I ran a very courageous race. The dixie valet seems like there's some nice things in the offing with her. She ran a really big race kind of Hopped into start and somewhat missed the break and in our plan was to kind of maneuver to the outside and then i think that's everybody else was playing with the middle of the tracks floor. I just had to take what was given to him. You know You know stay on the inside but she really finished up. well does surface horse and things she. She met matched figures From her last start in the allowance to her. Start here on This weekend on sunday. That i'm sorry. Yeah sunday That you know shoulder sheets. She can run on both services so that gives us a lot of confidence and options. Moving forward well. So on on sunday there was the arkansas bread group in the down the dusty road and vijay the defending winner made plenty of sense and and she took a lot of the money but the mary rose she figured and at seven to two I gotta be happy. Second time Under your care. And she's two for two with you. Yeah no she sees nice philly. This really Taking shape over the winter we picked up last fall and and the connie as well. Both of them Where we're in the race. And and the mary rose was able to. You know. I think maybe get the trip. That outside trip seemed to be the thing this weekend here at oaklawn And see she definitely got the trip and was able to get up to win You know she's a nice philly. Arkansas breads definitely fits like a glove down here in this program and hopefully we can get another star too and career before the end of the mate well and of course She kicked off a sequence that Resulted in the seventy two. Twenty brad cox pick three. Yeah i worked out. Well finished it off with Race or race. They philly joe. See that's You know a long long long time between wins. I guess you'd say with her but she was. She was able to to get the job done first. Time around two turns She was impressive. And you know opened up a different. You know avenue for her you know she can take that next step forward and maybe you know being a good horse around two turns. Well you know and it's funny. I didn't really notice this until until now but this is sort of a combination race. They have isn't the klein That's the clients everyday country. That's not race day. Yes yes yes yes. I was going to say kind of a hybrid You know maybe a hybrid uh pod. Scenario train race day. Except here at oaklawn i wanna say one the oaklawn handicap the razor backer essex or yeah also back to fairgrounds for a second. I haven't even mentioned The weekend the two saturday stakes The black gold and the dixie polka race but royal prince cairo prince One the black hole. Yeah he he was. He got a really good trip from brown hernandez To get a. I don't know if you've got. I think you got the bad bobby and having it wasn't a bad bob but I i didn't know if we got there or not. But he had his nose now when he counted It worked out while the source showed us some run last fall And then giving us enough. He gave us an confidence to put him on a plane and go to california with him. Ranch it's a little bit flat out there and then we brought him back and Seven and a half. I think the first level allowances a seven and a half and it just was not enough ground for him that day and and he rebound well. The other day it was it was a nice race off the way off. He's a half the british hit him and one that obviously honestly doesn't care much for the dirt when training on it but he does take to the grass much better. Well a couple of other Let's touch on a couple of other State performers and get some updates and of course A a a fairly loaded wagon. Brad cox with us Give us some updates on manned lunar and caddo river about both are doing really well man to learn how to i. Work since the risen star this past weekend He'll have another. He'll he'll have work this weekend leading up to the louisiana derby Caddo river His last works at his been fantastic. He's pointing for the rebel He'll have another work this weekend. Fairgrounds and then shipped to oaklawn but couldn't really be asking either horse to do any better Kc rivers last two works. Expend really off the charts. I mean just really training well and you know showing us exactly what you wanna see when you're going to do running in a a great steak rice so He he obviously has experienced. Oaklawn worship him up week of the race and You know he. He's really an inspiring very happy with the way training and cheroots with them. Well you know that that's a question at some point Flaw is is is going to have to and and decision with caddo and mandolin right. Yeah well i certainly hope they do certainly make a decision and i hope it's a really hard one for him to make because That's really what you you know how you want it to work out. And you know we'll see you know Both are very colts. I honestly can't split them I can't split any of the top three costa. We haven't are wondering other. They're all very very good Very fortunate to be in this position you know. Very thankful for the owners for the opportunity with the colts. And you know it's our job to try to get them in the first saturday in may and You know like. I said it all play out. I'm sure as far as the jock situation. But you know if if if he has a hard time decide. That's probably a good thing Brad how 'bout The philly side. Let's let's get update on the on the three year old fillies and get rid of what ails you. Start there. she's she's pointing her for the Very here at oaklawn she's the one off layoffs. He's had a decent work this past week and So i will more work before the race on the thirteenth excellent and Who am i missing We should ask about traveled. Bright travel column travel columns doing well. She's right now for the rachel alexander with her. I'm sorry no not the actual the excellence. The oaks the fairgrounds folks I see she had an easy work this past weekend. She'll do a little more this weekend and preparation for the fairgrounds oaks She's really moving. Well happy with how she. She's training and You know i. I'm hopeful that you know she's gonna move forward Second race off the layoff She ran a big race off left just kind of unlucky to not get there and hopefully you know she'll be good tyson this next one any other. I'm trying to think is there any of the three year old fillies on path and coach both run in this weekend. Yeah they're both doing well son path. I really can't say a whole lot. Better last start just hoping it's one where we're going to draw a line through She's trying to extremely well Sense so Hoping to get her back on track this weekend at oaklawn and then coach Was second in the martha washington and you know. Hopefully you know. Get a little bit Better trip this time as opposed to our last race in the honey bee and she should be affected. She's very consistent. Honest feeling gives you a big effort. Every time you know speaking of phillies I just i just looked What's the schedule for on pearl amp pearl harbor. I three eighths this weekend You know we'll we'll talk it over with the owners you know she's doing really well. She's back in the fairgrounds She's been trying to well. Paul patter for a freshening. this winter and she really has developed physically and and looks great. So we're on the right track. As far as race goes probably a little early to say too much about where we'll end up but she she really Had a really good winter and she's ready to do a little more work this weekend. am obliged to ask It go was fourth in his last. Start what What what are you looking at next right. now he's in quarantine in chicago. Hill shift keeneland In the next Neck early next week. And you know we're just gonna You know just kinda let him down a little bit. He deserves it. We do a lot at very short period of time. Obviously and he deserves a freshener. And then you know we'll bring him back. And you know. I i would say you know late spring early summer You know you could probably think show up somewhere. Obviously he'll show up on the work that before that but you know. I think as long as he's done well you know maybe Churchill late church fill spring. Summer meet you could awfully seem show up or you know maybe somewhere up in new york to this summer. Very nice and A couple of more offbeat names for those. That didn't see australasia in in the louisiana bread premier race That that's obviously a very nice louisiana bread what's next Right now looking at the crescent city oaks. it's on louisiana derby day. I think it's the race that makes the most sense for her right now. it'll be opportunity to get her beyond beyond a mile to turns and You know she she was at she went on my lifetime delta but You know a little bit more longer strikes you know. Continue to You know let her stretch you out and we'll we'll see You know and then it's probably not gonna probably it's going to be awfully. She passed. That test will be open company next and we'll see fits. There's obviously been a Big collection of run. Happy's that Since the clock guy vis struck midnight on january first The three year old run happy's there are a lot nicer than two year. Old nappies kinetic sky brad eh. How much here what What what are your thoughts going forward with well You know we were. Fortunately we He's run three decent numbers Know i don't know what to make last men and off the turf race I think we're gonna get you know definitely a little bit more of a test here at This week He looks really good. He moving great. I'm real happy with the way he's been working. So you know this. This'll be a step up and hopefully in the right direction and not. We'll see. How goes you had to other maiden winters At fairgrounds to last week ten days ago give or take warrant and adventuring. yeah Both both really nice horses three year. The one obviously warrants a colt Was able to get it done going short and second to second Race he really got a lot especially when he's a big strong heavy colt that mentally It's gonna take a while to really probably catch on each definitely. Not a polish horse mentally. But he he's getting better There's a lot upside with this horse. you know he. He's one that he came out of the rich great. Probably point for kingdom with him I level allowance. Not sure the distance yet but i think he's one. We can hear more from you know maybe mid summer something. He's he's a good colt Adventuring nice philly Dolphin that You know it it's amazing. She's she's run three times and they've all been off the turf receive big good figures out of each race I still kind of thought you know. She has kind of starts to grasp work. Well enough on the dirt to give you know enough belief runners. You never let us down so i don't know there's a trier on the turf or keep on the dirt for the time being. I mean she's obviously out of craig. One win ameriquest questioning. And you know she we. We all know what she was able to saratoga when she went to run So you know she's she's a nice philly that we're hoping that you know can can be played. The greatest stake level at some point And twenty twenty one always like ask you about maiden hopefuls and today at sam. Houston we're gonna talk to. Chris griffin in our three but vin kaya. This is a makmur hall Bread bernardini filly. That was five hundred and five thousand comes back for a second start. Reichel berry today At sam houston very fast away from the gas. If you go back and watch her debut you'll see that You know we're hoping that the you know she can get going five eight and Seeing a lot of speed hopefully chic. It'll it'll it'll work out for her today and same houston You got a turf way runner tomorrow night at nine ghost yeah he. He's quality to take us a little while to get to the races but He he's there he's there and he he's had some you know mishaps as far as whether not missing some training and stuff so but we finally got him there he he's been entered a few different times and and was excluded. And and it's kind of been a little bit of a difficult time vietnamese. He's there and you know. I think he's occulted. That should show up and run. Well i how. How about the three year old quality road. Making the second start. This is a klein. Home-bred and sean bridgman very familiar in that jacket Spare cash can start tomorrow at fairgrounds. I think she'll move forward off of our first. She's out of mayor that we had was able to win a few great stakes that she's one that should get better with time and some racing just experience She's another one that's Been rained off the time. Or two. And i think even in one. Maybe the race cancelled so You know it's You know it's been. She's another one that's over the last month or two. That's been ready just kind of had some setbacks with weather and stuff so you're looking forward to getting her started again. What about colonel bowman though failed at to two in that second start comes back again for godolphin. I'm sorry jimmy. What was i'm sorry. Role in broke. Colonel bowman oh colonel. Bowman yeah he. He's the one that second race was I i you know it's a little quicker early. I put blinkers on him. I really think it. It didn't really do what we were wanting it to do. And you know. I thought about stretching them out but I saw this race yet. A fantastic work last week and thought you know probably should just running and hopefully gets Similar trip to you got got first time out as opposed as last rates you just kind of doing too much too early so hopefully he can get a similar trip that frustration. It'll be effective. Well we already talked about Kinetic sky but You do have a first time starter. We should ask about a breezy bread. Constitution philly They viewing founders day. What what are we looking at here at oaklawn. This is Coming up on. Friday in the was It's good. it's actually a restricted race to horses. That i believe it was seventy five thousand or less of public auction. Shoes bought Wanna say for forty. Five thousand has a two year old so I see them. I feel like you know showed some speed from the gate. Hope hopefully she can be involved early and you know. I think it's a really good race for get set up a nice little. This british idiom started her career with an auction maiden race. I think it's a really good for for the horses for the owners and gives you know not everybody playing at the highest of the auction You know an opportunity to run horses and maiden special weights that Obviously restricted have some type of restriction on small. Lots going on. And i already. We already went ten minutes longer than That i promise. Brad cox well done this past weekend and Getting the two champions back successfully and We'll talk soon as the luck. Thank thank you. And i you know. He's got to got eight million horses. Ask you know you got to catch up on the ones that Enough that are notable. And we gotta catch up with with with lynch ea. Brian lynch joins us and he's done it again. He's made a stake winner out of Phantom in this case in the mcdonagh on saturday Brian congratulations to you in the hills. Great thanks thanks yeah. It wasn't pleasant you know. He's been a retriever. This go i. So it's it's nice to see him sort around off and things come together for him there on the weekends the great roman bug podcast so very tactical so i think that will come into play too. See you didn't you didn't you didn't have to you. Didn't have to take a swing at taco. When he came back lawsuit fights over the phone number taught from that one thing. I mentioned when i said you were gonna join us. What's interesting about his career. Is you know you've tried almost everything with him. You know surfaces short long turf the dirt off the turf elite company You've done a little bit of everything trying to figure him out very frustrating horse early. 'cause he's a very pretty awesome looked like he had all the mechanics and They're always bracewell surcharges. Pretty the once. I hit the quarter paul. You couldn't find ipe so took awhile. And i sprinted him on the tear funday and so it You know sorta. I thought he ran well but he just got up early and he just couldn't. But i can tell you on the gallup that something there then you know. Took a shot running for thirty two. Got away with it. And then he got this. Consequent got disqualified that day. But he you know i got lucky and he shot his what he wanted to do with being just continue to help him along through that off off the turf research. Churchill diane and run a good number going them mall the quarter.

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Graham Motion Interview - May 23, 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

09:45 min | 1 year ago

Graham Motion Interview - May 23, 2020

"Well Graham motion is with me. Now he is saddled More than twenty four hundred winners in his career for Breeders Cup winners and one of them returning to the races later this afternoon in the tap-in that is the ultra talented Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf winner sharing Graham Good morning my friend. Hey Good Morning Mike. Thanks for having me. Yeah thanks for spending a few minutes. look sharing was so so good last year and let's start by looking back on that win in the juvenile fillies turf. You join me afterwards. I know you were static with the performance and you should be. Yeah I mean look. It was a thrill for me especially to train to mom That was a big deal for me when share to count one a churchill. So you know to come back with her daughter and At Nita is just the greatest. Cup is so special to me anyways. So I'm thrilled to be a part of it and when you win one it's extra special and no doubt all. She rattled off three wins in a row. Capped it off with that win in the juvenile fillies turf. She makes her three year. Old debut coming up this afternoon. In that one hundred thousand dollars tappin stakes at Churchill. Take me back through the past few months since that Breeders Cup win. They've been like for sharing so originally would targeted the Tampa Oaks On the growth and the first time I breathed it down a Gulfstream. I thought she came back a little stiff not Gulfstream at palm meadows. I'm sorry on the turf. And maybe she overdid it a little bit that day. I think she went a in forty eight and change The Graham was quite firm so and then I put our heads together and decided we'd get back fair hill where she could train on the synthetic Which she's familiar with and kind of had the idea pointing for the hilltop pimlico on preakness weekend. So we're really not behind schedule It was great the and showed up on the schedule at Churchill. So this is Kinda. Been a our target ever since and really. We haven't had any hiccups She's pretty much breeze regularly every week and done things very pleasingly. I would say we always talk about that. Development Graham of horse from two to three and how significant those months can be What were some of the things that you were looking forward sharing and hoping to see as she moved into her three year old season for possibly you could even say it was a bit of a surprise that she was so precocious of the two year old He's grown a lot over the winter. I mean even sort of before the Breeders Cup. She'd she'd grown a lot from the summer but I think over the winter. She's really mature. I think this often you'll see sort of a much bigger more mature mayor But how traits haven't changed which is really encouraging. She's still very kind to be around Very level headed and I've just been pleased with works. You know I've worked with rancor WHO's one of my better older mares pretty regularly. It's not often that you breathe three with older horses at this time of year. So you know. I think that's a sign of confidence that I have in and I think she's handled everything very well so I'm pleased I'm excited to get started. It is not an easy race. I mean fact. It's a hundred thousand listed race really could be a group to In the middle of the summa it came up really salty as they say and I had a chance to visit with Jimmy Bell Godolphin earlier. He talked about all GMS who is undefeated. She takes on sharing in there But she's not the only one you have to worry about size up the competition for me. No look it's the great race. It's a great betting race. I think the fact that you know what grabs gradually getting back to racing. It's tough for us as trainers and owners because the races are so competitive but I think the flip side of that is they make great. Betting races great spectator racist very exciting to watch They're really deep fields. And I think I'm sure I haven't looked at the other races closely today but I'm sure you can say that about all the races today. Suddenly the allowance race that I'm in this might be a great three. The the boys allowance race on the graph. I think it's sufficient toss. Yeah super tough you know. Look that's the thing I mean Ben Huffman Told me last week that you know it helps when you're the only show in town but these fields are so good and horses come from all over it. It I saw makes it difficult to get into these races from a trainer in an owner perspective. But once you're in you better have your running shoes on. Yeah and I think we all kind of knew that going into it but I think that's good I mean I think that's It's not meant to be easy. These races and I think from from the betting public a from a spectator point watching on television. I think it's that's running race. It and I think it makes it makes really deep exciting races. And this is what you're gonNA see a bell on to. I mean he really like Saratoga in In June oh man. Yeah it's a good way to put it grand motion with me on the horse racing radio network. Grammy Mentioned Training. Schering's mother shared account to one the Philly turf in two thousand ten I know you talked about this back around the Breeders Cup time. And you said that she really didn't resemble her mother a whole lot. How about now that? She has grown up in developed. You talked about earlier. Are you starting to see more shared account her at all yet? Definitely I mean Jetta. A COP was kind of a big lanky mayor Very athletic and I would say sharing kind of filling. That frame very similar type. They have very similar disposition. Very kind I mean they were shared account was easily one of my favorite matters partly just because she had this very kind demeanor and and sharing showed that trait with her grand. Motion is here on the Horse. Racing Radio Network. He has a busy morning. I won't keep him too much longer. grandma throughout that poll question on twitter. You're never one to be shy about throwing out opinions on twitter Looked away that triple crown is set up this year with those three races and that large spacing in between the Belmont and the Derby and then a Mug to the preakness which will be the final leg. I say that if a horse sweeps all three wonderful kudos great job. You're a great three year old. You're not considered a triple crown winner. Obviously most people are disagreeing with me on twitter about you. What do you say well? I put on twitter earlier this week. that it's GonNa be triple crown with an asterix and I think that's true. I I I don't think you can deny the fact that if a horse is capable of doing it it's still an amazing feat and I. I still believe they'll go down to the triple crown winner. But it'll have an asterisk next to his name. Yeah I think so too. I just think you know look. It's aim because the order of the races it. I pointed this out that in nineteen thirty gallant Fox won the preakness is the first leg then took the derby and the Belmont but he won all three races within like a month time span. And now you're talking about what eleven week that will be more than that. It'd be Fifteen weeks I guess in between all three races and That to me just doesn't add up to. I think you're I think you're disrespecting the other triple crown winners if you put him in the same category yeah I mean. There's no doubt there's been debate over the years about whether the triple crown should be changed. I mean part of what makes the triple crown. So Great. Is that the time between the races. It's it's very tough to do it. And it's not supposed to be easy and we went to years and years. Everyone's saying we need to change it because it is so hard to win it but actually that's ultimately what makes it the triple crown. But I don't take you know if a horse is capable of doing it this year. I still feel that they're going to be a triple crown winner. I I don't get the criticism of what the race tracks and I think everyone's played the hand that In what's just an extraordinary year. I think quite frankly we just should all be grateful that is going to be able to compete in these races. Even though the timing is going to be odd. Yeah I I think my only disappointment came with not scheduling a fault triple crown with a more traditional scheduling of the racist. Which I think could have been done when you look at the NBC. Television scheduled with Notre Dame football. I think at all could have worked out if everybody wanted to jump into the same boat and play together At least all three racetracks and I think that was the case But that was my only disappointment. I think naira did the right thing by making the Belmont shorter since they're going to run it one month from today you can't ask courses the goal mile and a half it. Maybe touch on that for a quick second grand before I let you go because people have been complaining about their reduction in distance. But if you have a horse's pointing for the Belmont your one month away you can't get that horse race to go mile and a half. Can you know? I think they did the right thing. I mean the only thing you question is maybe perhaps it shouldn't have been cold the Belmont this year. Perhaps it should have just been the Peter Pan and maybe we don't run the Belmont but look. I'm not questioning what anybody's done. I think everyone's tried to do what? Just been an excruciatingly difficult complicated year. And I. I think we're so lucky to be back racing. I feel extremely fortunate to be running a church so and really look forward to Belmont opening up and I'm just appreciative of all. The you know the hoops people have had to jump through in order to get us back racing and hopefully we'll get back racing in Maryland next week. Yeah well said he's trainer Graham motion here on the horse racing radio network by the way. Graham celebrated his twentieth birthday yesterday. So Graham Happy Birthday. Thank you Michael. Graham Ocean here on. Hr Graham appreciate the visit. My friend good luck which sharing and all your runners today and moving forward to appreciate it. Thank you enjoy the races today great racing.

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454: Sens are Still Disorganized; What One Famous Game Would You Most Like to Re-Watch?

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

35:49 min | 6 months ago

454: Sens are Still Disorganized; What One Famous Game Would You Most Like to Re-Watch?

"The steve worn projects sports. And whatever okay welcome to the proceedings. It is stephen. Jimmy bell media reaches here on the steve martin project stores and whatever it is an everyday affair and we're glad you're here supporting the thing and if you're enjoying it please don't be shy. Subscribe and share with some of your powell's cohorts and And allies james when my allies here ladies and gentlemen james. How're things today. Stevie not bad well certainly sends an oilers. They played a hockey game last night. I don't know if it was very well played on either side. Edmonton comes away with an eight three victory. The games high fold. And i'm thinking to myself. We may have a daryl alert. I know garrels. Hitler had the ten point night against boston. Back in the seventies and it looks like a record. This gonna stand for a long time until last night's game when both dry seidel and mcdavid at five points by the midway point of hockey game we had a similar alert very briefly there and try to get another point. He got six. Yeah i was thinking the same thing you know you look at the minutes and the points going to games half over five points if the games half over five half is two times to ten points. But i'll tell you tell you what he did. Come very close to the gretzky record of seven. Of course one point away. What gretzky record of seven. Sorry i think. I think gretzky's record seven points in one game really that's it. I would've thought he had an eight or nine point game. We'll settlers ten dude for all time daniel alfredsson and a seven point nine. Oh maybe the only thing i can think is was no. It's got to be the total. I'm looking at right now. I'm looking it up right now. Look it up a single gretzky most points in a single game. Eight against the new jersey devils in nineteen eighty three. Well that's wrong. I think it's okay. No listed about fifteen places here. I'm looking at my screen. Okay yeah let's eight. I told you so sam. Gonyea has the same amount of points as far as his personal record. Goes wayne gretzky. Because nobody said nine it. Just settling hitler with ten and then a whole bunch of people had eight point games. Gretzky ed at least a couple I see mario has a couple in the. Nobody else has more than one. But tom blatant at eight. Points from the philadelphia flyers. Tom freaking bladen anyway. Jerry on don't what. What year is that back. Tom blade that'd be nineteen seventy seven philadelphia flyers and. He's a defenseman. Wow crazy a little bit a little bit crazy for sure. Anyway watching the game last night You and i had a bet. So i've got the oilers and you're watching that thing and it just blows up like you're doing a show and we said okay. Let's wrap this up. We want to go watch. The game flipped it on. It was five minutes to one. There was already like goals. You know and i went okay. This this'll be good. Gotta action here you know back and forth in the teams and then the other thing wide open for the first period and then at five one. But i don't know that the others played that. Well steve but the sand is just to me. Don't look very good at all. Don't don't let on the amount of shots. I don't know what they were. They were kind of tied in shots are close in shots. At our was at the end. I think it was like thirty. Eight thirty five ottawa. Yeah so and then you look at it. It was you know. They scored five goals on h. Shots or something. The the owners but but ottawa's just letting these quality shots in like you know they're letting them get by their leading guys walston they're they're breaking down with you know. I don't know how many tour ones there were. How many guys were wide open all the time. I'm watching the thing last night and The very first goal of the game is eight seconds in the score and granted. It was offer a nasty deflections and everything but it was just watching the way. They set up their face off set up in the zone. Everybody should know what their roles are in the face off in these faceoff scenario what are we all do. If we win the draw what are we all do. If we lose the draw right and the senate is very clearly lost the draw. It was a smooth little drawback to the guy who was at the top of the center. I think it was scored the goal and he whips at home Deflected enough josh norris. But if you look at the setup that the sends put out there. It was extremely unconventional and they didn't. None of them seem to know what they were supposed to do. Even before it's happening you see the two defencemen they're both is talking and pointing like you're supposed to go there you go there an and it was really discombobulated for a team. That's nine games in. Like i get it. It was a very short off season or a very short preseason and very long offseason all the excuses have been talking about. They're all in play but we're nine games in now. You should know what you do in the event of a defensive zone face loss and they looked absolutely lost. Yeah that's coaching to me. That's total coaching. Total total coaching for sure. And i just don't listen. But yeah i agree. I agree when you watch a game on tv. you know. Say say say you're in the offensive zone okay and and your wept cycling. The puck around you know cycling around side to side down in each corner across back and forth between the point. Guys know the two defensemen and you'll see him pass. You'll you'll see a defense and say the oilers okay. You'll see the their attack during the ottawa zone. And you'll see the right right defensemen to shoot it across in front of the blue into the left defensive and you always know that there's going to be another there okay. It's five on five right you know. What's the camera pans over. There's going to be an ottawa guy there but they never were. You know what i mean. I don't know if i'm sitting at sort of image up correctly. it's you know you. Are they right now. They look like dance troupe. With choreography sort of making it up. Oh well my last dance troupe. We jazz hands here or we did a high kick here and say well nobody else on the same page. It looks either. They haven't gotten around to doing some things yet or they're confused by what they've been taught but it's disorganization that's that's the word for this team right now. They're not on the same page. They're not organized if they don't change if they don't figure things out they're going to get further and further entrenched in the nhl basement right and it's what's murderous about that too. Steve is th then. Then the was the goaltending really that bad you well wasn't great for sure And i wouldn't put it all on on the goalies but simply not coming up with key saves key times in games in any event Yeah we'll see how the rest of the series goes sends got the oilers still for one more couple against the haves and two more against edmonton. So they're getting a steady dose of connor mcdavid and company changed gears for a minute. Here wanna talk about our poll question. And it's gone quite bonkers. You're banned from watching sports forever. What did you do jim. The what did you do to get banned tons. Things could be. It's all hypothetically steve. You're banned from watching sports forever. But with one exception for the rest of your life you can rewatch one famous game match or event from the past. What game are you choosing jim while that's great. That's a great question. Gone bananas on twitter right now breaking. I'm breaking social media right now and you could only pick one okay. This might surprise stevie. I'm i'm torn. i'm torn. You know we're going to discuss this figure which one this'll totally surprise. But that kawhi leonard last second basket was it was a pretty incredible game. You know buzzer beater to win the series. wasn't it. it was yeah. I would've thought he wanted to something in golf like the masters. It's like sam struggling right. I'm struggling with jack and eighty six. Well mike we're right my mic. Where i'm a canadian guy. I think my mike. Where if you watch. Watch mike how he gets into that playoff. He lost lend matisse he won he beat limitees in the playoffs and beat him with a bogey. If i remember yeah. Limited snap took his second shot left into the treason and couldn't couldn't get up in the green. I think that's strong. It's always international hockey for me candidate taken on the world. Seventy two summit series eighty-seven candidate cup. I remember the nineteen seventy five new year's eve game between the montreal canadians and at that time a little kid a massive halves fan and then the soviet union is coming for a game even though as an exhibition game it was like a stanley cup of that time. And so that new year's eve three three tie was an absolute beauty. And then the one for the sands would be daniel alfredsson scoring in overtime to launch the sins into the stanley cup final. That's as excited as i've ever been as a hockey fan. Yeah i was that. I went to one of those new year's games in montreal but i was probably eighteen or nineteen remember being university. I snap some tickets from somewhere in group went down. That was we sat in the glass. Right right on the glass in the form You know that would have been probably would have been like those. Rendezvous games is another sort of soviet touring thing in the early eighties. You would not have been in university. I don't think in seventy five yet. no. I wasn't no Rendezvous games wasn't there wasn't there a mall in auto called rendezvous. Read over on david or something like that. Well it's it's the reno center. But i know it was a marketing gimmick. They went on avon rendezvous rideau and they had the songs and stuff. It's really obnoxious camping. To be honest. I on rideau rendezvous. Rideau i can't pick a sports game. Steve but i can remember the rendezvous not the russia series tv. I don't know about that for rendezvous was street mall anyway. that's a. That's a great question. Because i've been to personally i've been i was at the joe. Carter game I was I was at the crosby golden goal. I think they called it in vancouver the game we watch together stevie Salt lake. There's so many there's so many of them john you're right. Jack nicklaus making a huge run in the final round of the masters in nineteen eighty six. And of course. Jacqueline forty six years old when he did that got. There's lots but Oh yeah y- blue jays You mentioned the the world series. But also the jose bautista. Backflip is getting a lot of love in my twitter. Poll at tsn. Steve read blacks winning the two thousand sixteen grey cup very regional but That was the end of a forty year drought. They hadn't won the grey cup in forty years and We're just isn't an aside. The red blacks in their their quarterback. They bring a quarterback last year. The name of nick arbuckle a supposed to be the future. I know calgary's backup comes in and Doesn't get get in a single game. Basically who's going to be over one hundred fifty thousand dollar bonus today and so. They released him. The argos picked him up the argos. Let matt nicholls go. And the red blacks picked him up so very interesting day for the red blacks as an aside but back to the games. golden goal. twenty ten with sidney crosby. You mentioned that's eighty nine. Grey cup was a dandy. That's one of my favorites of all time. If you like the cfl and you haven't seen the nineteen eighty-nine nine grey cup game with schedule and in hamilton absolutely throwing offensive haymakers at each other from. Start to finish really. That was yeah. That was an amazing game as a sketch win that year and broke a twenty three year. Grey cup drought near the one hundred meter. Glory at the olympics. Surest donovan daily. Or ben johnson. I relate to think. I'd like to think canadians are now letting ben johnson up off the mat in terms of the scandal right win basically literally everybody in that final eight has been connected to. Pd's so. i don't know that that was that was the reality of the situation. He deserves to absorb all of the abuse from that race. He was the winner granted. He paid his price and It's still was a pretty special moment to look back on. It was certainly a disappointing day. Day or two later but it was still a magical moment And as a sports fan. I'm not sure. I was ever more excited. The marching ben johnson. When the hundred meters. You know another sort of fun. One is big big canadian victories. But but sorta slipped under the radar. That would normally be a bit. That would normally be a pretty big story. You know right Won the master's that didn't slip under the radar course but no canadian golfer. Winning a pga event is is huge. Right right we all mackenzie hughes one. Nick taylor one so recently So there's there's a of those that slip under the radar One of them was ian. Leggatt was a canadian he wanted. Pga tour event. No one ever kind of knew it because it was the sunday of the salt lake city hockey game so yeah norm watch. I was just thinking of another one too that Got to them stevie but slipped under the radar. Oh even bigger. The canadian kid who won the high jumping won the goals at the olympics. Oh derek chambers. Yeah no. I don't think chambers y-yeah chambers is the runner. Sorry my bad. i've got mixed up good thing. I stopped this tv. He's the he's the reigning olympic champion. Yeah right who. Who would know that. Right who i mean. How big is area under the radar for sure. And i i still remember greg. Joy winning silver in seventy six in the high jump. How big a deal. That was and yeah for sure. Derek drew kind of went under the radar winning in the high jump. That's pretty It's a pretty marquee event of the olympics. Sure sure up with a good thing. I d- rescue would be another good one. I winning the us. open. I never thought that i thought for a long time. You know canadian woman was ever gonna breakthrough might yeah back to the eighties. Thinking about carling bassett subaru. So and Helen kelsey just seem like we're never going to get that. Female player breaks through or a male for that matter. A man has still not won a grand slam. Tennis but yeah. That was a special moment for canadian tennis fans for sure. Yeah you know what i'm changing. I want the rescue as my only watched one of it all right at tsn. 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The dan had thinking about tennis as it was so that pablo the other guy elite and of course ronin ronin time might be slipping by a little bit for him but he's been awfully close you know he's been to some semi's so i agree. I'd look golf. I might look at corey. Connors as the next major winner and corey connors by the way his caddie was carrying vj. Singh danny solids his name. He's and he's from his friend mine from edmonton is now counting for corey connors. He left he left. Vj's bagging and picked up. The canadian kid. Sounds like we're going to get corey connors on the show at some point. Maybe we will all right corey connors. Maybe next year next big thing cooling. Italy story i was reading today. Jimmy and the toronto star that i wanted to tackle here and the headline read in today star. They're lost is the quote. The pandemic is taking us island toll on athletes young old. So it's a toronto doctor. And i guess he was volunteering and sharing some stories with a group of young athletes and the guy's name is dr shoddy russia. He's the head of surgery at sunnybrook health. Sciences i'm one of the frontline workers who've been grinding through twelve hour days since corona virus arrived and the athletes are watching on zoom. And they're completely sidelined right now during the pandemic they junior hockey players in on the call. with no games on their upcoming schedule elite baseball players can't even find an indoor batting cage basically a cross section of those not lucky enough to be playing sports in high revenue operations like the nba nhl. And so asha mala who consults for the leafs said that it's not just pro athletes. we're talking about we're talking about kids to and the quote is this and i really feel like an get your take on it that the concern might be misdirected somewhat the quote is you take a triple a whole layer. That's eleven years old. These are kids that play hockey five times a week. It's who they are. They wear their jackets. It defines their personality. And then you take that away from them. You'd better have something to fill that gap because you've just made a huge hole and if we don't acknowledge that whole if we don't look at it it'll fill up it'll feel with depression it'll fill with anxiety it'll feel with childhood obesity. It'll feel with all kinds of stuff. That's negative and i looked at that and i said that's almost a cry for help. I know that he's looking at it from the perspective of okay. We gotta give these guys. They're sports back or have something to fill it with. My immediate thought was if they're that wrapped up in what they're doing at eleven years old that it's become their identity then. I think we're missing the bigger picture concern here. And that's that's not healthy. Yeah you don't we talk about this a lot a and we we had kirk mclean on there a couple a couple of weeks ago on this spend with you and i've talked about a lot about the sort of crazy parenting You know again that we see all the time right we we you know it kinda almost gives you an uncomfortable feeling when when you see a lot of facebook post for example. Here's my kid. He scored a goal here. He did this he did that. He's got looked at here. Each you know their team won this You know what i mean. Steve alex nicol demand. Is that a lot of pressure on a kid you know. And and what's the pressure from the parents. That's something that's controllable you could you. Could you could lay that back. You can lay off that. A documentary steve. The the other night on netflix about an elephant that was raised in captivity and they tried to save it. So it's called an elite. It's pretty good. It's called a baby. Elephants sale and in in africa and The the the elephant was orphaned. The mother died when it was born and they and so they had to raise. This elephant got really sick and all that stuff. And that's what. I think of these hockey players so the self in behind the fence looking out all the other elephants deep are having a great time. Excuse my language rolling around in the mud running up and down and you know this absolute freedom. And that's why. I look at a lot of these hockey kids that they're in. You've got them in captivity here. You know that there's no way there's nothing else there okay. This is what they're deal is going to be in. You're staying in this cage. Okay until until the dying day that you don't make it to the nhl or something in the meantime they look out there and there's a bunch other kids laughing their head off playing baseball or riding their bikes stevie or swimming or doing a bunch of other stuff. You know and it's that's that's i really believe it's not that much of a stretch for some them. You know what. I mean as dealing in some of them. I think that's an important caveat. Put into the conversation i mean. Some of the kids are the ones who directed they have this great passion for their sport and mom and dad is saying. Is that what you wanna do. Okay well i guess. I'll take you there then right on this course some apparent driven entirely in either case though it's just not healthy for a kid to be that immersed in a sport that you know that they're going to fall into this depression when it goes away because this just in if the example is an eleven year old in ninety nine point nine nine nine nine percent of the cases in you know what seven to ten years from. Now it's going to come to an end and so at granted there'll be a little older and able to deal with it better at that stage but it's still going to leave a massive hole and it's going to be a lot of eighteen. Nineteen twenty year olds. That are going to know what to do with themselves. The point is. I just don't think it's that healthy kid to be so immersed in a sport that it's full on their identity that's a lack of balance right there right if like you brought up stevie like international events right. We're talking about this poll question where you know you love the international story so your parents steve. And and so am i and we live in canada. If your kid if your kid out of choice choice to say you know. My kid wants to make a national team. Okay he can make you know the baseball team. Okay national baseball team or or or a hockey team. I'm going go for the baseball because you've got no chance okay. It's just way too competitive. It's way too competitive and so you know in fairness to some of these parents and stuff for these kids want to get into it into hockey because we're hockey centric. It's a competition to do. Well you know but if a kid comes forward goes. I'm i want to be an irish dancer and i want to be the best in canada. No problem okay. i think that's achievable. You know what i'm saying. I think absolutely absolutely. And i think the might take away from the story here. Is that these. Kids need to be prepared for life without hockey. Because it's coming if there's kids out there that are getting depressed because we had to take a year off of hockey that You know this huge hole in their life you know being a triple. A hockey player is who they are defines. Them that's that's a kid. That's not prepared for the real world and the real world in all likelihood is coming their way. Yeah ironically those steve. It may have a positive effect on some of these kids. Who are who have been plunged into the into the hockey world here with practices and all that stuff and maybe when this thing did hit nam games they might not admit it to their teammates of their parents. But maybe there's a sense of relief. Gone thank god. You know this is getting a little heavy. You know what i mean. Maybe you're now it's been. It's been a pretty long time right now but that would be a welcome thing i bet for some of those kids who are under the gun. you know to perform like i know my son does school very much. When when covert hit and they close the schools he was looking at me and going. I guess i can't go to school anymore. Dan young hockey does is. Don't get me wrong. I think is more well adjusted. Kids the not but boy. There's some real interesting characters who come out after guessing a lot of cases being pushed by the parents through their minor hockey years and then on into the ones who make it or they're certainly some cases we see we talked about one in our last episode in todi dangelo. This defenseman for the new york rangers was placed on waivers and he just cleared waivers as we record this. He's just cleared waivers. This is a twenty five year. Old kid jimmy. Get this stat. Fourth-best score among defensemen last season and not one team in the nhl thirty one teams or thirty other teams. They all said no. Thanks anyway. come on. Can you imagine that like that if that does not give you a kick in the pants and get you to think okay. I got to straighten up and fly right here. I don't know what else will right like the entire. Nhl rejected you after you were the fourth best score among defensemen last season largely because of your personality. Your behavior your choices. The there's something up there. Steve oh well you know. Is there a back story to that. Steve is what was that. What was that story broken. Someone asks what were we talking about. I don i was something along these lines. Just something about a guy acted the game right out of left field and no one knew what it was. it was a. Is there a backstory. What you brought up yesterday. So i don't know i'm gonna have to start to poke around stevie with some of my sources because what they had mentioned yesterday why the guy was released. We fought with a goalie. I'm i'm repeating myself zone. Goalie fought with his own goalie You know he's he. He ripped himself out of the arms of a raff. Which you can't do that. Okay okay that can happen He made some slurs on the ice racist homophobic slurs. That's happened before the guy's got to straighten out a little bit so so some of it to me was all second chance stuff And and to boot steve. Good hockey player really good hockey player. Really good. very good offense defenseman. There's no doubt about that. So something's there's something more to this to this story and is a typical iceberg stuff. There's enough there where you say. Okay i get why the rangers put him on waivers but maybe there's some stuff bubbling beneath the surface that we're not privy to publicly at the rest of the nhl is. I don't know he certainly was a vocal supporter of trump When trump's twitter account was suspended the angelo announced on instagram. He's leaving for the social media app. A parlor or parlour. I'm not sure. I am and in any way. There's like even that charity maturity issues. Though no question even even that right throw that on the heap. I'm so that's not enough right there. We're gonna bury the guy you know so These apparently got a burner account on twitter. And i guess he was responding to it and somebody mentioned the rangers He cleared waivers across the nhl. And he said the war is it blackballed. Yeah and i guess. He thinks that people don't know that this is his fake burner account but hackers have gotten in there and pretty much identified. Okay all this guy talks about. Is tony dangelo and reacting. Do tony de ngelo tweets so right kind of everybody's kind of onto him so yeah. It's it's obviously chemistry important personalities. Matter right This has gotta be gotta be more to it. I think this is. There's a lot there but for all those teams say. I'm not taking a chance. It might be more well. There's gotta be steve. There's gotta be right because if you're you know you're one of the other teams okay. You're you that that are out there you go. That's pick this guy up you know contracts okay and yet. Nobody does so. I think that's where the someone from the rangers front office gets on the blower and goes boys. Here's the issue at this guy. Here's the issue you you. I'm i'm doing you a favor all right. I'm doing a favor. And i'm just letting you know why why we did this. And i thought. I should let you know that he is whatever it is. You know too bad now and those conversations do happen like Even though there's no direct trade involved teams are always calling other teams to find out about other players shirt so yet it I'm sure that everybody in the league was calling the new york rangers and saying what's up with this guy. What do they do now see. They sent him to the minors or what what happens to them while they can send him to the minors. I'm not sure what their plan is. Sometimes you place a guy in waivers simply because you want to unload him up. Sometimes you put waivers for the purpose of sending him to the minors so they have that option now. Yeah there's no question about that. But i don't know what they're applying is. There's a suspension coming down because they can't imagine you want him around All your prospects. Once the american hockey league gets going finally later on this week indeed will take time out of the program. We're going to be back with final thoughts. After these words. My job is to get the best deal available to you with a company's at my disposal. I have the markets with our expertise and home and auto insurance will make it easy for you to put me in your lineup. And i'll give you an honest effort. I'm josh president of all insurance ontario. Texter call eight six zero six zero zero eight and i'll give you the best value all insurance ontario. Your modern broker ford is a full service commercial and fleet dealership. 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Oh okay it's it's a soft agar safa cheetos when you put it in your mouth and it. Just it goes to the size of a pinhead on hate those. But i like the hard ones like the jalapeno hardwoods. Actually the subway I used yeah that i think that's my go-to bake snacks. Not nachos notches standard. I don't know i'll have to think about that. See if you could only have one. That's a good place to it. Right there with dr next episode goodnight. Everybody we'll see it.

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Part1: Rick Hammerle, Bob Baffert

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Part1: Rick Hammerle, Bob Baffert

"Sirius Xm ports presents with Steve horseracing and been covering interviews. This is stupid From Tucson the University of Arizona Racetrack Industry program some posing on racing very. Hey Good morning. Wednesday serious to nineteen exempt to a one sports on sixty four still listen to Sirius. Xm Online and at our website to Steve Beck Dot com morning hammer. Good Morning Steve. Not Too bad for the third morning. No now at Brighton. And you EH. Yeah it's gorgeous a beautiful. You could tell forty five minutes ago. It was going to be an amazing sunrise. I mean this is what you get in the desert after maybe a day appeared to of light sprinkles and rain clouds. It's a pink oranges combination after the off to the east and it's going to be one of those glorious days Sir Crispin Cold Right now probably afford is better get up to the high sixties and typical desert life and in December. And that's what makes Tucson John Very appealing especially for conference when you talk to people that are coming from places where it's snowing and single degrees single digit numbers back east. And so yeah absolutely the this thing in Chicago right now this convention. I don't think would work too. Well that's perfect the perfect time of year in the perfect perfect location because most people show up with a smile and the first full day of activity yesterday and we really i. I thought that set the perfect tone with Dr Durnberger because she and an intern set the tone on the majority of the discussions yesterday specifically her social license to operate concept. And then a lot of the you know. A lot of the safety habit in practice this and The other the other topics like the one that that I moderated on surfaces. I WanNa talk a little bit about what went on the. They're we're both on the dirt side and the civic side today a little bit more of a wider array of of discussions and we'll we'll get A series of students to circle through. We always do on Wednesday. We always have a few of the of the students. And there's a couple of alumni on hand the end already and a couple of alumni that are on their way here yes and you know we sometimes forget an and I get reminded as as as is the people show up that it is about the students and You know they probably showed some of their projects that they did yesterday and they put a lot of work into into it so we'll get to talk to them a little bit. And interestingly enough I walked in on a few of the of the of the speakers yesterday in the one the one that caught my attention most that I wanted to make sure I saw was the one that on the press. Basically how to talk to the press by Gregory Gregory Peck Not not not atticus finch Gregory back but but yes and so. It was very fast. They it was in the room and it was about half full at that time. I looked around and see any track operators in there. I didn't see any of the people that that I was hoping hoping would be in there because he was very gave some very valuable information on how to confront confront not not necessarily confirmed I but but how to how to how to do an interview. You know even getting down to posture and facing the person that's interviewing you look in the eye and What to talk about? And and how to how to say things and you know and he was focusing on on on some of the issues that we've run into lately basically Horse Safety and state your state your case support it illustrated than restated that that was his four four messages of how to get a point across and I thought that was. You know I mean you're in the media. I am a a semi media person and talk to the press on many occasions throughout our our lives. And all you can do is say the wrong thing. I mean a good no comment sometimes is the best thing you can say if you don't have anything constructive to say. And it was very fascinating and he went through a couple of couple of drills. You could see if you took one of his daily seminars. How much deeper he would get into into that? He brought a few people out from the audience and interviewed them. And then critiqued how they answered the questions and it was it was very fascinating and You know a few things away from that because inevitably we end up having to talk to the media and if it's the most you can make a good experience and not a bad experience well and the biggest challenge on that on that front and we brought it up already the last couple of days to some degree as on a tangent but invariably when there is the opportunity it's been forced on. You mentioned the track operator but I it's invariably responding to a difficult scenario and that's the I mean I hate the I hate to use constantly use the crisis management Monica but that's you know that's the key time to have the right. Responses is and you know often often the only response you can come up with because there's so much research or so much investigation vacation that has to go into how things occurred you almost can never give satisfactory. The industry can almost never give an immediate satisfactory Addis factory answer. It's invariably whatever response we come up with. Even if it's a neutral one acknowledging circumstance it's criticized to the Nth the three because the prudent response is we'll we'll figure out what transpired and how to Ah do our best to prevent it from happening again. And that's invariably the scenario that we deal with in this in this arena absolutely and that's what. I thought that it was so important in part of the problem. Part of the major problem is getting the word out. I think not being able to handle the media earlier in the situation in California made it even worse and it's important he put the right message across but it can also import have the right person representing you to who the media and that was brought up to It was a it was a good little workshop that I enjoy it. He got a little book here. Meet the press with success with a few little tidbits in there and I actually talked to Mr Pack afterwards a little bit and and ask them about it but I'm fascinated as as it's You know we're talking to to the masses right now and I critique when I'm watching the news people are interviewed and what they say and how they said and As far as I'm concerned if you can learn a little bit along the way it is basically more informed to you and makes you sound a little bit better and I it. It should be a response that inspires confidence from the public and ideally from within the industry and stakeholders and and everybody that you know that has an interest in the game. I think and I think what we forget I. They're not going away. The media's not going away. I was taught that early on by Bob. I'm free and I noticed his how he dealt with the media and Dan joked around with them and and kind of did things his way and he told me he's he said they will. They will go way. Might as well you might as well get along with them. And I've used that and I have a lot of friends. Now that are in media and not that they do favors for you but you know you you exchange information back and forth and become sort of friendly with them and as human nature. We'll have it. They maybe go a little bit lighter than they than they could. If they didn't know you better ah I just seen that along the way and you know they have a job to do and we talk about this with the kids you know. I brought up some media situations where I've told them when you get in a situation when you talk to meet it you tell your story. They write it if they if they write something that that you didn't really want to get across. Well that's your fault because you didn't get your story across and I know that's happened to me. Sometimes when I think I'm I'm telling them yes we're going to paint the wall blew and they tell their their they say the story. We were painting it red and it's like I must've it's my fault he didn't. I didn't get my story across the sky. So when be Very Eric careful when you talk to them. When you're off the record tell them their offer record and they they will? They will respond to that but you know just be careful. Learn how to deal with the media and you can use them to your advantage as well as as a sidebar and to take a suppose a rip from today's headline a Story from yesterday that was coming to light and and hitting You know media outlets as we were basically the last half hour the last forty minutes of the show The statement that Peter Miller imagining that that that most of you listening got wind of this Yesterday it'll be it'll be you know it's probably twenty one hours old at this point but ah a rift between Gary -Tuni- and David Bernson The owners of Stormy liberal and my assumption is that they are they were fifty fifty partners in stormy liberal otherwise there one or the other would have had control before this circumstance arose but are tuning and and selling out to Bernson who wants to go on with stormy liberal. Peter Miller with a statement saying that it his opinion that stormy liberal and and he would have been his desire that stormy liberal retire and in this environment environment. I it's obvious. What what Peter and then later From harmonious sort of. He didn't modify per se. Peter Miller's statement and but he he did add some further context. And I and I hope for people confidence About what is transpiring being here and stormy liberal was sent to Ocala. Today's scanlon. And for those of you. Who Don't know Dave Scanlan as the horses in very good shape deep and very good hands for David Scanlan? And whoever the vet team is GonNa be that's GonNa look over and observe him and scanlon gambling's going to work with them here to see if he is going to continue to race. Dave scanlon is as capable as any horsemen that a horse could be sent to and You could have a lot of confidence. That scanlon will will take good care and make the right decisions about how to handle the horse from here with input from the vets but it does set up a very difficult scenario and then Peter Obviously The Peter Long time he was trying to he's trying to send a message out there and It's a it's a not awkward situation but it it it it puts it puts everybody in a sort sort of a precarious situation elevates tell you Peter Miller spent a lot of time with stormy liberal knows other than anyone Got A lot of joy out of him him in Rockingham ranch and David as well and when you know when when when when a trainers with a horse that at long and knows him that well and he decides to say hey you know what I think. It's time to to end the and the racing career I don't know like you said that's GonNa put everyone in a very nervous. Precarious situation of this source does make another appearance on the racetrack. Now I reached out the Peter to and Ed to see if he wants to. I'm sure he I'm sure. His statement speaks for itself breath. Heart I thought are tuning portion of it helped modify what what the situation would be and where things were going to go from from here and so we'll watch I I how things proceed. You know you told me about you being here sometimes. Sometimes you're in this urine. Everybody is saying don't have time to reach out and See what's going on in the real world you show me. That story. Yesterday was very. I was very surprised by Peter Sir. Peter does a good job with horses. He takes care of him. He's got great help and for him. To recommend the horse be retired and Basically be overruled is interesting interesting so anyway today we as we as we head into the last part of the of the of the seminar the last day as you mentioned that I think the the most attended session will be the one that's on earlier this morning with with the little. Basically a couch session with Bob Baffert and Todd pletcher. Just discussing their their their lives here at at the University of Arizona and then continued. you know onto the race track and the success. They've had Training and and WHO. They've worked for how they've gotten where they where they banned so I think that starts at eight o'clock and then I'll go on till nine thirty. I think that'll that'll get people out of bed early. And continue on with some of the other segments we have today. We're GONNA talk to TO PETE WE'RE GONNA get a hold of foreign ital- and of course Pete and and Marshall and JK. Jonathan Kinchen and Pat. Cummings the Pete not here but The three of them pat and Marshall and Jonathan going to be in your session later today right and we all had. We went out for dinner and drinks last night just discussed some topics and and and where I know. I Know Jonathan Pretty Well and Pat. I've known I I really got to know Marshal Graham. What what a what a nice guy? What a good guy that he he has got to know him last night? Not only a a player said the other day one of the only few people can get away with calling himself and economists listen actually meaning and he's a professor at Rhodes College in Memphis teaches a class on economics and and frozen a little horse racing into the class. He's majority the Partner in in a stable ten strike ten strike stable and he told me that I said so. Oh how many horses are are in your in your care. How many horses do you have? He says about eighty yeah. WHOA so he has he his group? We've had his best year. He's he's they've had this year. He's had five stake winners over three million dollars in earnings employs eleven different trainers Summit fairgrounds air ground. Some are going to be at Oakland Park parks all over the place. So you know another guy that's invested heavily into the game and we're going to enter into some discussions of of you know the Horse Player and you know the people that put food on everybody's table that's here at the here at the symposium and sometimes forgotten sometimes. Yeah sometimes sometimes you know. Just just don't have enough say in the game and hopefully come up with a few things that information will help all horse players across the country and hopefully some operators will be there and these guys need to be sitting at the board the the board tables of of racetracks when decisions are made the wagering and some tracks are better at this than others and some have a better feel for it then others It It's a the ebb and flow of how certain you know certain organizations are operating. And it's funny too because some That that are bad at at seemingly certain areas might might be might be much better at at that at being in touch with the player. And so you know it's A. It's it's an ebb and flow. We're going to flow into first grade. We'll come right back and I want to talk a little bit about the the session. I that that I moderated rated and a few things that it will see Michael Dickinson later wants to sit in. I A Dickinson. At this point it seems to meet his overselling. That was my that was my my point yesterday with him but I thought the dirt conversation that we had with the Peterson Peterson and Glenn Kozak. Donna Allan Kuhn were was really I thought edifying couple era. One area came up that that has never been discussed. We'll come back after this apple with Steve Vic on Sirius. XM Radio Yeah. Hey what's going on Mike and I'm going to tell you about an offer for my good friends at express bet. Let's be honest. We we know you love playing the racist but you can't always make it to the track. Sometimes life just gets in the way of a good bet. 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San Fratello go to P. A. DOT COM and see why Pennsylvania is the premier place to breed in race now back to the races with Steve on Sirius. XM Radio Yeah. Yeah it is. We're back at the races back at Lowe's Mentana and the racetrack industry program. Graham Symposium on racing and the first of the prominent alumni you consider yourself a prominent alumni. I am a super super prominent. I have honored. I'm part of the. I was inducted into the Hispanic Hall of fame here. How about that? That's an honor right there so remember for that so You're breathing my air right now. Steve That's throw that's through And of course So you know it's funny because there's I'm I'm sure by now. Most people know and remember the connection midnight lute with Lute Olson and so much of of The course Horsey your career Bob Baffert with by the way if you don't recognize the voice. I see such a terrific place and of course the program you were you were one of the you know the first third of of the programs alums and what even brought you here. How did you even know there was an opportunity and as opposed to just going going out onto a racetrack and starting out the way a lot of people do well? I grew up an hour from here. Nogales on the border and so All my siblings we all went to. Am because this is where you win. You didn't have a choice. We didn't have a choice to go anywhere. Nobody was going to tempe. No nobody but we don't like them as he. It was too far away anyway so we came here and so I just I. I promised my mother I was well. I wanted to be jockey that was my but I promised my mother that I would Graduated from college and so Because you know she was She was a teacher for many years. And the principal. So she's really you know. Education is very important and and you know in those days you know you you raise your child you make sure they graduate from college and then you a a kick him loose and let them on their way and So I I came. Here is the only school and when I came here they just. I was just going and get a bachelor's degree in something and is racing program came to live. I thought wow what a get some pretty easy courses. This is here. Have a shot of passing. You know so but it was really interesting and I met a lot of good friends. You know I'm I'm at Jimmy. Bell has John Bell Farm and we became really good friends and But it was my best ears. We're here in college. I had a blast. I wasn't a fraternity. I I did everything you know. We would vantage ev the whole thing and so And then my friends started graduate. I I've got to get serious here and And and then as soon as I graduated then I just still. I've gravitated back to the horses. My father had a couple. Of course we raised and so I was listen with them and then finally I just became a A jockey I wanted to go back to writing and so I was just too big and and when I went back home I took about a year off so it became a substitute teacher in Gallus. Isn't that right if you have a degree. You can get a substitute teacher. So I was making was making like forty bucks a day. They'd call me up at six in the morning and we need you. I mean they need substitute. There was many people as basically babysitting sitting for the first grade. Third High School. I did it all and then they stuck me in junior high because his teacher had had a nervous breakdown in sixth grade so I had to take over his history course for the rest this. We're talking about in November. So I did the whole year and about that so I had a really had I had to learn about history really quick and so I taught history and And I decided I do not want to be a teacher me patients and so I I want to get back out there in the you know you. No I was just gravitated right back to the horses and then I got a job at this guy. Gave me a job on a on a little training. Not a little farm in Prescott Arizona for the summer and he decided to get a horse and he's able to run a horse and and so I bought it from Los Alameda. Bought from Bobby Dare The jockey I called him up I want to buy a horse. We bought a horse for seventeen thousand run at Prescott downs for this. Pete Sam's that lives in Phoenix and he had a little five Acre farm with three Broodmare four-year lanes that I broke for them. And so I said Bobby I said I'll buy the horrors but you have to come right at Prescott down president down a little little tiny very dangerous race jags. He said he would and he came in and wrote the trials and we ran second in the fraternity and and then all of a sudden. I thought man this is pretty cool. Then we ran another race and there was some trainers that got in trouble. They had some drug positives. Some big trainers and a couple of trainers in so They had a lot of good horses. Nobody knew where to go. So one of the owners called me up and said This Guy Ray says hey bob I got twenty nine. They had nice horses he goes. Would you take these horses and I go. Oh how those are. You're in business. I'm business so I said I took those. And then that's when I started up nineteen eighty then I won my first stakes win in November of nineteen eighty and And it just it. Just it was like snowballed into that and then I got more owners and next thing you know I I went. I had start out with about and I remember when I started. I didn't really have a lot of cash on me so I went to my grandmother. I said I need borrow a thousand dollars from you. She says for what she says. I need to buy buckets and by Buck Equipment and sure you attacked for about eight horses sources. I was GONNA like ten horses whatever it was and she's in I'll pay you back. Forty five days he says none of you. Children have ever paid me back. I swear where do you I'm GonNa pay back and I'm going to give you interest sure enough. I paid her back. I'm the only one ever paid her back. And the favorite your favorite grandson interest my it. It was my dad's a mother and and so she got me. She got me going and She'd always ask me how much you GonNa make. I think I can make. She'd always say napped. And I said that was word then you know and so that's how I got going in pretty soon. I was started. I hit the ground running. started winning in And then all of a sudden we got all these good horses and only trade for my dad or a few horses just our home breads. He was holding. Let me back Steve. Once I got better horses then I started winning and I really got more confidence. And that's what you know and next thing you know. I had forty forty horses barn. We were rolling. I mean we weren't running for very much money New Mexico and Arizona Arizona era all winner her weekends all winter and then I would or the pots like three hundred dollars. But the Fraternities Were Ten fifteen twenty chore because Everybody's Paying In yes so if you win the fraternity make a thousand dollars ten thousand of the winter and and that's the excitement but you know in those days you know it wasn't you know we'd win a race or whatever but just the excitement site -ment you know and and so So we'd go here and then we hit the fares they'll fraternities on the fierce annoy where I grew up the Snyder for charity. And then we'd go to Prescott Prescott Arizona and then after Prescott we'd hit the Fares Kingman Arizona. We hit that place. And then we go to Holbrook Arizona so it was sort of fund that go to the jury weekends and we used to run a Douglas Arizona. It was weird tracked down there. The the surface was grinding from the minds. A compromise was weird like weird surface like almost like not gravel but it just a like a green colored Wow Yeah it was really really weird. Light Green Light from Verdigris that that from the aging if it was copper it must've ate it must've from elements it would turn green. He was something man. It was the weirdest distract. I remember in Douglas Douglas. I don't think they don't run their anymore but I'll never forget that surface. It was weird and it wasn't like crazy. He was just like they're they're grindings of something. You know I remember that really well and then Then we start back at relate. Oh Oh and Broke all the records air and everything but it was fun. It was a lot of fun and one thing about it never complained about the track too hard or too fast. I was just a couple of months sometime. Big Old dirt clods in it. We never complained about. Never we never complained about any track that we went to. You just went and you're the one we ran and we were happy to be there. When did when did the transition start to come and opportunities to go to Los Alan Alan and hit the the bigger quart circuit? Well that was against Moore's from Los Alamos because at the time that's when there was an overabundance of of horses at Los Alamitos he does and it was hard to get a three zero maintenance telling me that they had so many horse lower so a lot of trainers would send their horses to meet Relief Co to to break their main so they get a stall at Los Alameda so I was getting all these well-bred Dash for cash all these royal bred horses. That really weren't that good so they'd send them to me like blades. Fauna Velvet. Send me some eager owned by big time owners like the vast brothers from Houston and in you know really well bred horses and had easyjet's all these you know they weren't that great but but I did train for ruling Admin. I took over for him and he ran the track and he had a lot of good horses. What as as that is happening and we'll talk about you? Know moving the thoroughbreds as part of it. But what about training quarters and working with with quarters what did you learn. And what or is it. A commonality between between the breeds between quarters and thoroughbreds and even standard breads. I suppose that is is universal. But what kind of things did you take with you. And they still rely on that. You learn from your from early horsemanship experiences I I think a lot of it was my first start. I used to break all my own horses and You learn how to point horse for race because in quarter horses you you WANNA want to get him to run the trials and there's like you know we'll be you know fifty sixty horses trying to get an Arizona trying to get Eight spots eight horse gate. I think it's eight released over ten. I forget what it was. I think it was eight and so so Because the tractor so narrow and so you wanna run in the trials. You don't want him to qualify run fast enough but not really just completely. Just there's nothing left Simpson left and Solid trained that the really good ones the ones. I really knew that could really run. I just sort of getting through there. And they qualify. They qualify vice six seven eight. You know they could do it on your own on their own accord but the The ones that were like I have them ready for their. Could you have because they pay all the way down. You know you get something you get a thousand if you run last or whatever so But it was fun. It was annoyed a fraternity in Arizona. The near Nogales. That my my dad and my uncle the one that got it going and that was to me. That was running. The first Saturday of May that was the we can never win it. We tried you know I could never win that thing. You know so finally when I made my move to Los Alamos a finally Brad. McKenzie talked me into coming in Los. Amigos you gotta come. I am now they had to raise secretary. That was really tough there. His name was curly Smith. He was tough. Because I remember going there with one horse of my dad's and I had it there and he gave you you one stall and Iran and Iran in bucked in the race. It didn't Bucknell chocolate bucks. So you had to qualify the horses so he put me on the list so I had a qualified like in the mornings work at three hundred and fifty yards so I work at three hundred fifty. Arjun I go check the list. He selling the list. I have to do it again so I wanted to bring another horse in so I remember going into his office and he says Mr Smith everybody was terrified of this guy that was the year that the race took care of and so I said Mr Smith I noticed that my horses still an illicit. He worked today. He says. Don't come in in here and tell me what I need to do. He says you know Mr Bamford. How many stalls that I give you? This is one. And where did you come from are came from Arizona is usually when I give one stall to a guy from out of state that usually means. They're not gonNA come but you showed up. You know. That's why I gave you because I put him for two. You know and so but when other subject I do have a second one that I wanNA bring it and he said he said he stomped well. You just come in here and say Mr Smith. I need another stall any stomped. The tables goals so for some reason I stopped two tables. But you're Smith I need an stall says all right all right go ahead and bring it in. I'll find a deal. So I brought another horsing sourcing. There might ads and they never won. They weren't that good horses but I said I'm I'm not coming back to that guy I just you know I'm not. They're not good enough in. I'm going get beat up and take this guy. This guy was tough. He's a kind of guy that in the guy before him. One Guy Win trainer left. His tack is a attack room light on and the guy would drive through there and he called the guy says. Did you leave your room light on his mistake. And for a week the guy had unplugged unscrew the bulb and bring it to his office and incumbent it in the morning I mean. That's that's unbelievable I used to do. That's tremendous you know you can't get away with that now but wow so then. Finally he was gone and Brad called me pay. The bag is gone. You know the guys gone. We've got can you guys good guy. He'll help you out. Give you whatever you need and I had better horses but I had I tell you what Steve I had like. It was in the win me. I have forty horses so I picked my best eight horses and I took them out there for the winter. We just for for a couple of months to try it out if it worked then outstay. If not and I'll never forget the first night I had my three best horses in the first one runs for the second one ran four and my best filly. She's in the feature five o'clock rush. She's in the one home and I told Brad Brad. And he's like don't worry it. Just you know Brad was my cheerleaders. Don't worry come on. He said if this doesn't win I'm out of here I can't make I'm GONNA I'm GonNa pack my stuff and a I'm GONNA be. I'll just rather be the big fish little pond and dam. If that Philly didn't win she wins the race by a head and that was it. That's all I needed. I needed that. You know that little push and then I went back to California and I just told everybody a you know A. I'm sorry but you guys GonNa need other trainer for your other horses here. I'm getting out but what happens. He reliro had closed so so we didn't. We have a lot of racing so during the winter for a couple years ahead. A had a train at turf paradise outside I had to rent a barn and in walk my horses like about almost it was like a half a mile from the track to get them ready for press Kim for the fair. So that wasn't GonNa work out so I went to Los Alameda does and I I just picked up a bride. Mackenzie really helped me. He introduced me a lot of people and start picking up horses from other people. I didn't know and I mean he was really so instrumental in That's not only that he was just a good friend anyway but just so he was my biggest cheerleader. The phillies began five. o'clock five o'clock rush five o'clock Russia. It's good when I was when I tried to thoroughbreds the last horse we had. We had like a Breeders Cup type race at Los Alamos already and I just one champion of champions pins are no. It's it's like. They had this Breeders Cup. They had tried to breeders their own. Little Breeders Cup and so It was Calcutta. I'd won on four stakes and Calcutta Race Day in And I went down and I had a bunch in that night and the last race of the night was this little too euro stake race. It was eight o'clock rush was in. It was five o'clock Russia's baby and he won and I quit that night and that was the end of the started with five o'clock five o'clock rush went out and that was my last one. That's that's tremendous. I you know I think think really everything happens for a reason and So I was just I was done and walked away. I just left all my tax. There bought all new tack and give give to my friends. I had Laura Pinelli who was my sister. She got most of them Carlos Lopez. He's trainer down there. I gave him the horses and And Haney Gomez was just a bloodstock agent there and he took a lot of equipment. He started out so And that's you know who was the first who was the first owner to to express confidence in and give you a thoroughbred well hell Earnhardt I was training corridors for him. And you okay. It's been my longest reporter I've had him since. Nineteen eighty three and he He had bought a thoroughbred and then Then Mike pegues. They were friends with through his father techs and they bought a quarter of ours to get. And that's how I met Mike Okay for a year and then Mike says you know. Why don't you? Why don't you try thoroughbreds? He's I don't know let's you know I'd have to learn and so if you give me air let me claim a few. Then we'll good player around go ahead. They still had my quarter horses so it took me a couple of years just to get my footing and it was all trial in there and But they were really patient and and when you know Mike was a lot of fun married took me to my first super bowl. It was forty niners down in Miami Played Cincinnati. I was GONNA say the Bengals a good game to catch I was there was a good game here in this sitting in the end zone there and down and so it. Just you know really took me to places I've never been you know with my like I've never flown first class. Asser done anything like that. I mean it. Was You know with Mike just first class so we hit it off and and asked him one time. We're getting get an elevator Mike. Why did you pick me? Why would you he said? Let me tell you something this business you lose more than you win and you're a lot more more fun to be with when we lose. I'll never forget when he said that you know so well and that's a that's an insight that should be. That should be at somewhere. Because Tommy Kelly Tommy. Kelly said when you hire as an owner when you hire a trainer when you pick a trainer you're buying a friend and so make sure it's somebody that you want to the you're going to have a rapport with and that you have an energy with and you have fund with because as Graham says you lose more than than you win. I mean it's always been that way. I mean I've had really you know now I've got. I have really good chemistry. Certain people some guys I just need from the beginning. Now it's probably not this not gonNA jive. There's not my and a lot of people can be eh intimidated by me. And they shouldn't because I'm really sort of a laid back kind of guy you know. And so when they get to know me they go. You know what you're not at all like like people say you are and all that and so I really don't know once people get to know me. I'm like I used to like to joke around. A lot of people didn't like my humor but the reason we do that it's just you'll go crazy if you don't this this game if you let it will make you bitter so you have to you. We have to keep digging your way out of it. So there's going to be. I keep telling my wife that well put she'll get really down and everything I said you know honey. It's still the greatest sport. It's fun I meet. I've met the best made a lot of friends. You meet a really interesting people you you know I've met presidents of met you know all these Kings and shakes and all these people and and Few movie movie stars. And you know it's sort of like glamorous it's A. It's a very glamorous in the quarter horse you don't have that just don't have a lot of black belt buckles because a lot of hats l. l.. One of those things were back and wanted to win the the L. American for charity and I went back and I had a horse in it but I couldn't. I was just getting services business and his name was Ed grimly so I sent it to a trainer. They said we're going to split blitz and his name is sleepy gall breath you know and and in some really nice guy just laid back. That's why they call them sleepy sleep. He looks like sleepy from seven seven door. He's got that face on him. You Know Nice Guy and so we went over there and Mike Tigar and we've got a little jet. We flew over. There was about eight of US my brother Bill when we had a blast I you know and so and Mike pegues room. He's in the paddock. He says man he says I've never seen a paddock where whoever wins this race race is going to change their life because they're going to get a million dollars. It's just you know he's up. Because Yeah because the guy that I trained for ease of man if I win this phrase I'm GonNa buy. I'm a suffolk dairy down in Roseville New Mexico when you had a dairy in Phoenix and doing all these plans and we got beat ahead. We got caught right at the wire wire but you know what I. I didn't feel that excitement is already been into thoroughbred and had I was training in Charlie's mother at the time on one little steak with her. So I gotTa Dip Flavor of what they're being time what could happen. You know and so like wow this is you know you know. It's like and after that I. I can't believe I used to give the quarter horse jockeys instructions. I mean just held on. Don't fall off what you'd go back to the the the transition and starting to get your hands on thoroughbreds and what did you find that you ended up needing to learn and what surprised you about thoroughbreds that that you didn't expect well I mean they're you know they have to train basically every day or quarterhorse once you get fit. You don't have to do to keep them fed. Welcome you Gals Alpha. Maybe every other day little easy heathen sharp heating sound gotta keep them really. Sounds corridors. Is You have to keep them very very SAM. Because if they're not if they're if they're something's bugging them they won't break and if they don't break it's over it's over it's over so you have to really keep them really healthy in a thoroughbred you know you have to track them every day. And then there's the handicap you have to handicap your horse distances as you know that was the hardest part. Is You sprinter. Does he wanted to go along. Does he wanted to do this. And that so you know it took me. I'm I'm still learning. I'm still learning to this day and But one of these days I'm going to figure it out completely but I'm not there yet but seems like a pretty close one of those things where it was just traveling there. I never worked for anybody if I could have gone to work for. Somebody would've jumped jump. Start of my So I I just started on my own and it was just listening to people but it may have also so it. The the the flip side of that is you basically were a blank slate. As opposed to having somebody who's WHO's angle on on horses says colors your approach and stamps your approach you basically were a blank slate and you started to add the information. How long did it take you due to begin to understand the physical differences you know in terms of in terms of stride length of body the way a thoroughbred grows and changes as they age? Well I mean to me I think what brought into is I. I had a lot of good luck. Mind my own quarter horses and so I went to the sales. I remember the first time I thought. Wow Man I saw the beautiful ones and I I see a pretty one you know and follow them up there and I had the budget twenty thousand for how many for one okay for one. All right I'd go up there at thing would bring three or four hundred thousand. This is crazy. These these people are crazy thinking about you know something like back in for twenty thousand a great quarterhorse so this went on for three days. Just I was getting so book one book two but to finally I think we got to about book three. I see this big Grey Long Body Beautiful Stout Horse uh-huh and I remember this. There was a guy they used to be in the quarter horse. He was my engine Afar mayor and he looks at me. Says Hey baffert those. Those aren't the type you want. It's a dude I have. I'm sticking with what I like. And before that I went to I went to to Claiborne claiborne farms. And I want to look at all the stallions to see. Get an idea. I saw secretary at I wanted to see him and he uses big shoulder his neck big deep heart girth but he didn't have much of a hind really really and I really like. Wow you know. It's not really expect it. No I saw spectacular bid. He's a nice looking but light. Really light bone beautiful. It's confirmation long neck bone and then I liked the Jansky the second I don't like him at all. He was to therapy for me as I used to say to light and then I saw Mr Prospector. Look pretty good. But he's a little bit. You know upright shoulder little straight or something. I remember he was all right but the horse they brought out that I love is dancing handzic when they brought him out. That's me right there. So that's what I that I stuck to so so all of a sudden I see great horse and I and he's beautiful. I follow them up the head this guy with me this quarter horse owner and was sitting there and we start bidding. We'll get up to twenty and somebody hits them at twenty. Want to come on. Dude you gotta hit them known twenties. It's all I'll go. I said come on. Hit Him at twenty one he's at you'll hit twenty two and he says you know what I said if you love them so much you have a lot of big other owners want you buying for them so when he said that he sort of got me like uh mad. Yeah so I hit him right so I hit him again. Twenty five twenty six probably twenty nine so I was like Ah I hit him at thirty and hit thirty Steve. I said please somebody hit him please. I you didn't want it at that point. I don't know how many who am I going to sell this horse. I'm I'm I'm scared. Funny Thirty thirty thirty soul right there and all man they brought the pat over you got to fill it out. I feel that thing. Hang out. Put my address you know name with the firstborn everything I filled out the whole thing and I'm shaking my shaking. I write my name get up right away I gotta go get a better look at this horse more. I'm walking out. I'm going by there and I see that. Same guys back nieces BAFFERT. Don't tell Um you bought that horse. I said Yeah I got him he said so I go down there and I'm looking at him and there was a guy from. He was trainer from CORREDOR. Strange from Texas there was there waiting at the barn. I run into him. Hey what are you doing your odds waiting to see. They've bought this horseback and I'm going to see an offer him something so I go take it. Can I see the grey horse out here. Please just sold. He said Oh. You're looking at him too. I says I bought them. Wow he said it. Was Ben Walden that I bought them for him and he goes I. Oh he told me he's going to bring sixty thousand so I didn't bid on him. I've gone for thirty and I'll tell you what I don't have a buyer for him but if you give me a thousand dollars I'll give you the ticket. I told him and he says No. It's okay so so then I got now. And then all of a sudden I started getting paged Bob Baffert. Please come to the to the main office so I go up there and I go. Excuse me I've just got paid like Sir. You just bought a purchase a horse and you don't have credit here. Well I'm here. I'M A my name. Is Bob Baffert. I'M A victoires train. We don't care we need you need. We need to call they. Luckily I took a check with me always had carried a check with me all right all right. All right you check right now says we'll sir we have to call your bank. Make sure this check. I barely had enough money to cover it. It's like thirty two thousand. Oh that's great. They put they put a stop on that. They they grab that money right there so this is nice. And then I I call I. Call all Heller Nhar and I made a mistake. He was he didn't answer and I talked to his wife. I said I bought this. Fourth of thirty thousand even should have just waited so by the time I call them back. That's what the payphone had to get on the pay phone and so then I called back. You know he tells me later later finally I I call them back. You Know I. It's it's just too it's too much. I can't do it now this stuff if I wanted to talk to him. Yeah she she you know she already. The fix was at the fix. Should I made a mistake. And so So I'm coming back and arty already Hubbard. He'd give me a ride his plane from Los Alamos and he's going back so I says when I go back I'll go back with you. I was on. This is a profit if it deal for me. I was on a super low budget. So he's and he goes. He Goes Maverick. Did you buy anything thing. I said matter of fact I did have an owner. I said we're GONNA take half off half of it already. Paid for them. I had to pay for them right away. But I got you know might get a took all my savings out of that thing and so And he looks at the pedigree and bring the pedigree he's bice loopy Out of hatchet-man mayor in so. But you know it's funny. I told Jimmy bail after I bought them. I went to John Bell Farm. I hadn't seen Jimmy Bell in fifteen years since since since you've ain't yeah so I said you buy anything. Yes matter of fact I did and I opened up my wallet and I had the page folded up in my wallet. I bought this horse right here. He says wow while he says we stand sloop. He's right here really. I said and he wasn't doing that. Well you know no kidding. I told WOW and marries him. I didn't even. I didn't even notice the pedigree I didn't even look for pedigree didn't mean it was the body the physical. It's a hatchet man. I'll be when we were going to school. My we got radios member. Sure sure well I was. I was I was went to his house and he had a blood horse on his table and there was a horse. Called Hatchet man was on the cover. I said you know what that's going to be my CB handle hatchet man and into this day. Jimmy bill he calls match it a hatchet. What's going on? It's great so I go. He's out of the hatchet man mirror and sloop his. This horse force has to be a runner. I'm telling you I believe in that stuff and sure enough. It was thirty sloughs. British unbelievable got him. I'm home I I I I sent him right to Los Alameda then telling me and I cut him up with my quarter horse owners and I kept the peace and Mike take a piece and we win the Breeders Cup sprint with him. That's unbelievable unbelievable. What am I yelled at him immediately? You know so uh what horse but you know what he taught me a lot. I mean he was a really good horse and I wasn't really ready for a horse like that and I almost throwing them. He was trying to put them on the Derby trail there and all that stuff but he was a he was a really good sprinter. Big Beautiful Horse and and you say that you weren't ready quote unquote and there. There is a there from him. There is a little bit of a lag. Before you start to you start to you really sent out a sequence of top horses classic horses and every other kind of stay course Bob Louis in the year before that I went to the Breeders Cup. I took Soviets adjourned Charlie's Churchill. And she was she was she was tailing off on me. And I didn't know what I was. You know what I I look back. I'll never forget I went to to To the Churchill downs it must have been like it was so cold it was like forty degrees or whatever terrible terrible it was called. I'm walking up there and I have a of Oxford shirt on and so cold and I had a sport coat. Oh no overcoat. And that that wasn't and I'm walking up there and I'm freezing. I'm walking up. It was just me. And My my groom and I'm walking up there and MMA forget my nipples so hard and they're rubbing against the super hard starched shirt shirt and they were all I could think about. I kept grabbing myself. Like you were Raleigh. I got up there and got my ass kicked and it was just terrible but you know what I saw it was I saw a Roz was it. Is Area Razzie around Ozzy Ozzie. Rasi is racist. Believe it wasn't their forget that one of the most unforgettable classic performances I've ever seen and I learned a lot from and And I remember I was at Staying there and I was crossed and I saw woody Stevens. was that a little some across the table having dinner and he was he was getting pretty old then oxygen tank. You had it on his and I wanted to. I WANNA walk up and introduce myself to them. But I was too scared. I was too intimidated. Go up there and introduce myself. I am a new trainer and trying to get into business but I wish I would have gone up there and talk to because he was just you know I really enjoyed watching. He was you know he brought a lot to the sport. I love listening to all his little. One liners you know and and stuff but you know I was it. Just SORTA SHY and intimidated. Walk up to him and say I'm just wanted to meet you and and then do it. Well From there though the tables have turned a as you as you suggest you know some people th they see you and and they're intimidated and they shouldn't be either. Yeah and so when people had young trainers come up him trying to start out and so and I remember that I said well. Yeah Good luck to you and and just a any words of wisdom. I said Yeah you better be ready to work seven days a week and just live live. Live and breathe it. That's all if you want to be successful you gotta live and breathe because not only you're responsible for all those horses versus but you're responsible for a lot of employees families that count on you. That's a lot of pressure like this winter when we were having problems out there SANITA. Yeah that was one of the big things that you know. If this isn't workout I got a lot of families that are counting on me and you know they just can't pick up no go. Oh or whatever and they've been with me for you know twenty twenty years and seeing all the kids grow up so there's a lot of extra pressure that you know that that that people don't know about you but So but it's been very you know I. I'm so lucky that work down you know. I'm glad that my grandmother let me that thousand dollars. I don't know what would happen if she didn't give me the the money but but it was as you never things happen for a reason it's one of the you know it's one of the things about the game that you know. There's there's a certain degree of locked that That it just as is out there to be to be captured and I suppose some of it. Some of it is is just knowing just being relaxed and as you as you've discussed before I mean just Adjusting how you you always talk about making decisions with horses during the run-up On the classic trail and just making those decisions on feel I remember when I was when I was like sixteen this Wayne Look is comes into scenario with these shiny trailers. These fancy voices to run in the trials okay and we all went up to the fence ago. Everybody was saying that's Wayne Lukas. Man That's guy it's light light and I wanted to go up and introduce mice. I was scared to de. ooh I was like That's him and I got it close. Look I'm watching him man but this he's just he is like you not only is he. He's a great horse Horseman and Horse Trainer He's great horsemen but he was a good showman and he knew how to For for the better he knew how to promote the sport he really. And when he when he came into the corridors business. He changed the course. I mean he the Barnes all of a sudden he had had the most beautiful barnes and the flowers in there and stuff. Rake at the herringbone tendency a herringbone Rig that's Wayne Lucas and people that try what is gold toe to toe with and they went and broke. They couldn't they couldn't stay up because he kept winning. And then when he came thoroughbreds he changed at all and During the process he sort of rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and they you know and so you know the thing about Wayne he was never really when you come from the corridors and just jumped in there he it was really totally never accepted fully. When you come for the hard boots and because he didn't come up from you know they they think a lot of the you know the trainers are You know come in like you know the typical trainers supposed to look like Leroy Jolly lovely. I get get to know him last year and I just love what I totally right when I saw him. I said when I see you Leroy. I'm intimidated 'cause to me. Leroy was above me because I watched him. I think he was great trainer. And all these guys and I see 'em brea and those guys like I would never consider myself at their their level to me. They're still above me. Union means so when you see these guys when you're growing up on television you know like And last I used to pick your arraign these older guys. And that's what I did. I tell you it's helped me and I tell my kids. You gotta be very curious in life absolutely and you have solutions and we rented a long day. We they're calling for you. They're calling for me right. Steve but I got your worn out. Todd pletcher showed up. They told me he wouldn't show why. Why not Actually taught actually graduate in four years. It took me six. All right. Enjoy it you was fabulous. Thank you as always unbelievable Bob Baffert. Let's take a break. I'm digging it. I'm sorry I didn't dig into everybody's time with the kids and Let's let's take a break hammer's coming right back and we're going to get some kids on and we're GONNA get sick Fernando in for a visit and he's going to explain about the you know how how to get into the pedigree side of you know if you're young person and you want to work for a farm you WANNA work on the sales and you WanNa work and signer Sydell talk about that and how you know we we. We know how the horse side works and probably a lot of the business side track operators and so forth but that's an in area and and when we were here last year You know there was. I think I think it all the time we've been coming only been one Of the students students that had expressed bloodstock interest now. A now I've been introduced to two or three more and so we'll get sit in for that to a A lot of fun. 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Had there not been had had there not been a A specific assignment format at the top of the hour. But he tells me I don't know if he's perfected these stories. He's or if he just delivers them with a a certain aplomb but he told the historian of the first Dorsey bought a keeneland With thirty sloughs which was just wildly entertaining. Well Bob is when he gets it. Nobody's comfortable around you. He's got one hundred of those stories. Yeah and you know. He doesn't usually tell us. You know some guys have two stories. They tell the same two stories wherever they go. He's got one hundred stores and you might hear the same one twice and and it's It's pretty good. And and and when he come walking down the hall with his brother Bill who lives in Tucson here and I just Bob just told me that the other day and is man and I didn't know you live goes thank God. You didn't knocking on my door every day and I said yeah you're probably right but bills the same way. He's over the telling telling stories stories about those guys growing up and doing things so very gracious and they've said Todd came here a little bit ago. Ten fifteen minutes ago takes talking over there and I told some of the students earlier when as a you know Pop Africa. You Know Todd pletcher. Can you introduce us. I just show up in the morning I believe me. They're fine. They they used to be you they get it so group of seven eight nine kids are over here and when Bob got off and todd was here you know they chitchatted get chatting over there a little bit and You know some little starstruck but but you know. Hey these guys started in school just like you did and you know you can move right up the ladder but So gracious enough. Not just to be here to do the little interview with you. But now they're in on On stage they're doing a little Oprah couch session just chit chatting Just like they were with Yo so Like I say when you come to these things over to the public you could be sitting there in the audience and listen so a very very entertaining. It's not all business here so like to show some of the lighter side of the business. Show that that these guys. Yeah they go to work every day. They trade a Lotta horses. They deal with a lot of different people. But they're just regular guys and that's what you're gonNA see. That's what the people are going to see in the room in there. He told he told a racing secretary story from Los Owl that I've never heard curly Smith. He is to be from what I understand the toughest raising secretary on record bar. Non Anywhere knew every horse on the grounds and what everybody knew everything about everybody he he said he told the story. The Guy who the guy a left the shed left the light on in the Tack Room and apparently Smith would go around the barns every night he made he made the trainer unscrew the lightbulbs out of the tack room and bring it to his office every afternoon. And then come pick it up the next day for a week stores my good friend. Bruce Jackson who trained quarterback reverses over there before of any test name before he transferred over to read gave. He used to tell me stories about curly Smith and still does and I didn't believe him at first. And then I'd start getting a little few backup stories around the corner but I believe right in other words. You're not wasting electricity. Unless you need that ball you'd leave it with me and if I didn't know the background up the essence but oh my God made me laugh but their stories about this guy You know if you brought a horse in if you had nine stalls and you brought that tenth horse and he knew it any would literally put you on the Horse until you to ride it out the gate. I mean I've heard all kinds of they never met the guy quite a legend quarterhorse guests. Redoubt Alameda now. And you know every time everytime baffert brings up Brad McKenzie. Just he you know. He says he says he's tender As as as As anybody you know when their talks about his dad talks about the chief and reverential about you you know the icons of of the training game and absolutely did and as I was talking to Bill Phillips tells stories about you know not nicely growing up at but recently and the name Brad. McKenzie was sprinkled throughout stories about. Oh Brad did this when Brad was here so it. Ah The guys. Are you know just tight as tight as you can ever get. I know Bob is really really happy. That the they pick like the right horse they picked a good horse. True horse you know but champion Type A horse to name after after Brad and just go out and perform and do great so I mean mean he lost a good buddy. What else can you say exactly exactly well it it? It got very quiet here. Because everybody's in listening to Bob. Avin todd so the kids are in there so we can't do anything with the kids right this minute. We've got one over in the wings over here Matthew.

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Hour 1: A Depressing Day

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Hour 1: A Depressing Day

"The Stephen Smith show podcast is brought to you capital. One safercar earn four percent cashback on dining in detainment two percent of grocery stores in one percent of all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. This is this even a Smith show podcast. Dan music. Good afternoon. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the latest edition of the Stephen Smith show coming at you, as I love to do every weekday over the airwaves of ESPN radio and ESPN news. You know, I'm in two hundred and fifty plus markets across the United States of America. Check your AM FM listing nearest you almost siriusxm channel eighty as well for one to three PM eastern standard time, you also know that this show, simulcast live over the national television, airwaves, ESPN news. Which means that, if you listen to the show, you know, the number to call is always, triple eight say ESPN. It's inundate seven to nine three seven seven sixteen. They spent show on ESPN radio's presented by progressive home insurance. Get your quarter. Progressive dot com today. Tom straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts. The usually for the usually the usual fervor, the enthusiasm, the passion that I have that I bring today airwaves every time I'm on it as quite as far as I'm concerned. I'm a big compromise today. I'm a bit sad. Actually, I'm lying. I'm quite devastated. Because as much as I've been hearing. About how the New York Knicks could potentially end up empty handed. That reality has now resonated, more profoundly than it has in weeks. I'm pretty much hearing. It's done. Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving going to Brooklyn. My hope all of this time has been Cairo Kemper joining K, D M Madison Square Garden. And I'm hearing that. Stephen a. I know folks told you come to New York Knicks. Hell. They thought they will come into the New York Knicks. I know those same people said of the United five percent chance believe that five percent open because his K D, you never know. There's the dole in factor. There's the Brooklyn nets could foundation there. That's a factor. All of these things are true. And then as the weeks. Dissipated into days. And now days on verge of becoming a matter of hours with kyri urban have an opt out. Of his deal with the Boston Celtics, MBNA, arm restricted free agent, K, D opting out. It's thirty one point five million. He was all by Golden State. Opting out of that deal for next season. So he could be. A guy that. It was an unrestricted free agent. And both of them would be free to come to the New York Knicks. Now, we're hearing different news. News that we haven't that, that we've been hearing for weeks, by the way. But you just hold out hope that somehow some way, that it wouldn't be a strong level of truth to it that somehow some way, we would move beyond this, and then hearing that it's just not going to be the case. You still holding out hope if you're a Knicks fan, you still holding out, hope to somehow some way, the mind could be changed. K D has been a New York over the last few days, we have billeting in New York bat put on a walk in boot, and a little while give back to walk before, ultimately can someday in the near future give back to practicing and getting himself back in reminding us all wise, arguably the greatest player on the planet. But it appears as if whenever Katy comes back. It appears as if whenever K D starts playing basketball again. It'll be in a Brooklyn nets uniform. Not that of the New York Knicks the deadline is Sunday at six pm eastern time June thirtieth. And one could only hope that somehow someway K, D, kyri will change their minds kyri, re pretty much is done in everybody's eyes. It just hasn't been made official yet, but it's pretty much a done. Deal car is going to be a Brooklyn. Kimball. Walkers, not coming to New York either. My sources. Tell me cabinet. Kimball Walker has informed the Charlotte Hornets and Michael Jordan. He does not want to be there. He was offered a five year deal. It wasn't the supermax deal. He was qualified for it was somewhere in the ballpark of one hundred sixty plus million still about twenty million more than the Boston Celtics could offer him. But Kemba Walker is going to be a Boston. Celtic? That's what I'm hearing is not etched in stone, I guess, again, because you got until Sunday, these guys it always change their mind. But I can tell you that the Charlotte Hornets believe Kemba Walker is going to be a Boston. Celtic? They know that he's gone. He's let them know he's not coming back. He wants to win. He wants to find themselves in a winning situation and with kyri being gone, but Jason Tatum, and Jalen Brown and Gordon Haywood in Boston with Brad Stevens. The coach there's a better chance of winning in Boston. Then there is of staying in Charlotte in a winning. Either way you slice it Kim walking come into the New York Knicks. It appears Kyrie Irving is coming into New York. Knicks it appears that Kevin Durant isn't coming to the New York Knicks. We know that Klay Thompson, who is going to be offered. Five years. One hundred ninety one million dollar max deal at six pm of few seconds in it won't the clock. Won't even reach six zero. One sunday. We're in Klay Thompson, six eastern time three PM Pacific. It won't even reach six oh, one PM eastern time for Klay Thompson, nor for the five-year, max deal, by the Golden State Warriors. They lose ain't going nowhere. A New York next look at her bias, Harris. They look at Jimmy Butler. These are second tier guys looking for long-term deals. They ain't come in either. Go to New York Knicks. When all is said and done. At the end of the day. Once again, delivered us. Worst possible nightmare for free agency. They're going to end up empty-handed. And if indeed that is true because I still got three days three full days to pray to hit. Munnings and the privately-owned. Hope beyond hope that somehow, someway devoted kicks in. At a change will finally take place. That's advantageous for something associated with James Dolan. Still got three days to pry. Please for once. Basketball life. Grant me some good news about the New York Knicks even though James Dolan, is their owner. I'm trying. Still got three days to pray ladies jump. Still got three days to hope. But then look good. The good at all. Here we are. You know. I've got a pretty decent relationship with max Kellerman, and we'll K. Okay. Doesn't outstanding jobless right here on ESPN radio. Next Kelman's my partner in crime. I take. You know, we might but heads argue and bump heads and all that stuff debate show. This would you do. But the good guys, they really really are. But every now and then they could be coral. They can engage in a level of cruelty that I think should be alarming to us all. And they certainly made sure to do that to me today. Because knowing that the really has said it. Kate, did all likelihood is not coming. Mix and other is curry. Max and we'll K. Informed me of the news flash. That DaMarcus boogie cousins could end up being the New York knick on a one year. As if wasn't sick enough. No boogie cousins in New York. The hell is that gonna do for me? Better time patent gas Lauren my bloated belly rather than what to because Knicks uniform. The hell is that gonna do for me? Now, finish the boogie cousins. Couple of things and the interest of full disclosure. He and I don't like each other one bit. He don't like me at all. And feel as mutual. We ain't never spoken life, and we never will all likelihood. But I'm still not going disrespect this me when healthy he could play when healthy he averages twenty eight and twelve when healthy he's worth one hundred fifty million dollars, which is what he's practically been cost since he tore his ACL. Was achilles. I apologize. It's a miracle that he came back from it as soon as he did came back January. Eighteenth, everybody was telling me when we back for April. Boogie cousins can play. And this spike obvious distasteful, one another. Let me be fair. Because help a lot of teams. And if you are a championship contender, you should considerably boogie cousins. And you should pay him. Whatever you think he's worth, because if he were healthy, we talk and big Tom dollars, and the only reason why he might now warrant that right now because we don't know how healthy he's going to be. That's it. I'm not against boogie cousins being a New York knick because he's baffled room coach. That's a false report. I've never heard that about, and that wouldn't be fit him. I'm not going to tell you. I don't wanna be a New York because he can't play because that would be a damn law. I'm not gonna tell you that, you know what he was garbage throughout the NBA finals because that wasn't too. Yes. Some bad games as good games. He could pass. He was good defensively pick roles he was opposed presence. He puts the points on the board. Had about three good games out of the six in the NBA finals. One game for them as far as I was. He was the MVP today. My issue will boogie cousins being a New York knick. Is that what K D with kyri we're talking lottery, which need for? That don't do anything, and especially when you're looking forward to mega superstars come into New York City. I mean give us boogie cousins equivalent of giving us an injured Amari stutter my instead of the Brown. We know what it was supposed to be back in two thousand ten we all what it ended up, not being. I don't wanna hear about boogie cousins, because it brings ranked the wrong kind of memories. Amari instead of LeBron to hear that. I wanna see that experience it into a playoff team that will be different but they're not gonna be. Gonna happen gentleman, not the way of looking not the what I'm hearing. Just tough. Just a. And I know I tried to ward off layoff, you know, just thinking about. James Dolan is the owner. How detrimental he is. To the future this ranchos. Almost gets a point right now where I think that James Dolan lights being a pariah. He actually gets off of people talking about him and wishing he would go on makes them wanna stay more. Steve mills, Scott very I have no questions about their competence. I believe in their competence, I'm questioning one's ability to recruit, would a boss James Dolan. And I guess they can't be completely absolve either David physio came to New York. Got good relationships. Lebron Wade swear by him. Ends up. Not letting us one single free agent. How am I supposed to feel about that? I don't know how much Ables feel about that in all honesty. I really really don't. So I mean for me personally, I mean I just don't know. And I don't know where to go with all of this. I'm looking at the Knicks right now. And I'm depressed we spent so much time. We've talked about the Los Angeles Lakers. Rob lak-? Magic johnson. Jeanie buss. What are you doing there? Dysfunctional, blah, blah. They make one move. And they're my favorites to win the championship one move just like that. Same what we will about the Lakers, who missed the playoffs. All of the last six years. But the Los Angeles Lakers. They wanna title in the seventies. They won in the eighties. They struggled throughout the nineties, but still a quiet, Shaquille O'Neal, and draft. Kobe Bryant in nineteen ninety six. So even though they didn't win the title, they were relevant and they want everybody's radar. And after that, they three Peter with titles. Ninety nine two thousand two thousand two thousand one two thousand one two thousand two. Did their thing. Three painting. And then they went to little laugh because shack left. Kobe brought him back to prominence without chat three straight trips to the finals two titles. Over the last four decades. The Lakers have had titles. They've got sixteen championships on their resume. What are the Knicks to was the last one nineteen seventy three? Hi, was five. Five years old. I'm now more than a half ill. Over the last twenty years, the New York Knicks. Stewardship of James Dolan. Basketball, I said. Very. One could argue that really James Dolan's fall. He did high Thomas. He hired Larry Brown. He hired Phil Jackson. Guess intentions will. Right. Cut checks. Private jets everywhere takes care of his guys. But nothing seems to go right? With dismay when it comes to his basketball franchise, nothing. And then throws a free agency throw. Charles Oakley out of the arena. Ban. Some little kid because he wants you to sell team. End up in the news, and I'll to end up paying a fifty thousand dollar fine. Because you ban a reporter or a newspaper from an express conference, which is clearly against MBA rules. This level of pettiness petulance. While it may not be. The deciding factor clearly plays role. What would you say? What do we think? How do we feel? Say which one about genius bus in Los Angeles, Lakers. Even in the era of jimbo's. Even since daddy died him having missed the playoffs six times. They've always giving you a star. Tinseltown, purple and gold Laker tradition. Hollywood staple center, they've always giving you a star on the basketball court. You know who the Knicks star on accordance on a court? You know the Knicks star is. Spike Lee got courtside seats. And he stains, a lot of times during the games. So the at least you could see him watching the players run by. So you got. I haven't been the sad and longtime over basketball, personal matters. But over basketball haven't been sad and a long, long time. But I'm sad. Now. Hoping beyond hope. That can pray my way into a better situation. But realistically pragmatically doubting that will ever happen. I wish folks out there could cheer me up. But it was smart enough to know. You all. It. Eight say ESPN, it's seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening lob. Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio. ESPN new. Yes. I said it is true. Kyri K, D probably Brooklyn Kimball Walker. Probably in Boston. We don't know whether koala is going stand around or go to the clippers we don't know whether or not Jimmy bell is gonna end up in Philly or go to Houston. We don't know where to buys. Harris is going to end up as well. And the only thing relevant about the New York Knicks free agency. Is that they may give us. Bogey cousins. You can't make this up. You just give this up. 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Earn four percent cashback on dining into taint two percent at grocery stores in one percent on all the purchases. Hey, what's in your wallet? It eight say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. You are listening to the Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio ESPN news. This news about the Knicks and their situation is not the only thing going on. There are other things to take into consideration. The Philadelphia seventy Sixers are in news because Jimmy Butler, who I told you I report a couple of weeks ago. He had been talking James harden, and expressing strong interest in coming to Houston. James harden, expressed a strong interest in wanting Jimmy Butler, there, I have been on record saying. I think this would be disastrous. I don't believe that Chris Paul, Jimmy Butler, and James harden can. Coexist with Mike dantonio is the coach, I think, three of them can coexist. Without my dental is the coach. But with my dantonio coach, I only two of them would work together, the three of them. No way. Now, those personalities I don't think I don't think they're totally can handle it. I really really, really believe that. I think that's I think that is entirely entirely too much to expect. And I think that it's a disaster waiting to happen. That's my personal, personal belief. I'm backing up for that by one by one sec. Okay. So I think it's important to point that out. I think it's important to recognize that. All right. So that's point number one point, number two. Still not stop Jimmy Butler from expressing his interest. And if you look at Jimmy Butler, here's a reality situation. Ladies gentlemen, the Philadelphia seventy Sixers have as Burgas Jimmy Bulla has his birthright and Philadelphia seventy Sixers can offer him a five year deal for one eighty nine point seven million dollars. The most anyone else can offer him is one forty point six now understand something here. The second seventy six offer him five years, the Houston Rockets, or anybody else can offer him four years, even if the Houston Rockets, according to collect the boggling rules, what a workout a sign and trade deal for Jimmy Butler with the Philadelphia, seventy Sixers the most rockets are allowed to offer. Jimmy Butler is the four years at one, forty that's the most allowed to offer him the four years at one forty. Okay. They can't offer him more than that. They cannot do that. So because they can't do that. All right. All you could get four years, one forty. Jimmy bell. If he's willing to go to Houston is willing to lose fifty million dollars to be back in his hometown, Houston, or he was growing grew up near there. Okay. As opposed to the five years, one hundred eighty nine point seven million dollars. Now, this could all be leveraged. This could all be Jimmy Butler, try to ensure he gets five years from Philadelphia for the one eighty nine instead of four. Or it could be him saying, if the seventy Sixers are only willing to give me just four why not being why not be in Houston instead of Philadelphia. Here's an opposition of seventy Sixers. You can't go to Houston without hell. Because you don't have any cap space. So here's contract. We wanna keep here this town loves you. We love you, if you don't wanna be here, then leave on your own and get the money for elsewhere and go someplace else you don't really wanna go to. Because gonna be Houston because used to need help in order to work out a deal for Jimmy Butler. We ain't doing it all the Philadelphia seven you could say Clint cappella and every Gordon is worth Jimmy Butler. Is all up for grabs right now. If Philadelphia I keep Jimmy Butler, because it's not just about as game his personality who he is his willingness to hold everybody accountable, not by this tone. The work ethic he puts in excetera Jimmy Butler is made for Philadelphia that city. It's culture. He is made for Philadelphia. Made for it. Houston. So different ballgame. I got news for you. I Jimmy Boylan seventy Sixers have a better chance to go into the finals. Then Jimmy Boylan Houston Rockets. I really believe that. I don't think Houston, even with Jimmy James Auden and Chris Ball, beat LeBron AD. I don't think Houston with those three you can definitively say, we're beat the clippers koala and it was there. I don't believe that. I really don't. Because that's my reality. I think the Houston Rockets making colossoma say and I think there are more really needs to think about this. He's swing for the fences. That's what Darren more, we does. But of championships, our whole run. Down Moore's was striking. 'cause there's a whole speak up now. That's not entirely. I mean gin. Where's ball goes down game last year was to convert vinyls? Tour last five years, believe they're more in Iraq. It's been in the conference finals. I'm not trying to tell you that there are Maury isn't a damn good executive. And by the way, damn good, man. I'm not trying to say that would own sing is at think betting his stock on Dan, Tony to me if you're after championship Dan. Tony the way to go. Because he only coaches on one side of the ball. Now, if you talking about winning games being interesting if you're talking about all of those different things. If that's what you're talking about my attitude is this. Dantonio guy, you wanna win games. Get to the postseason. I'm all in dental ni you trying to win a championship. I so. Old. I'm just not so. That is not how I feel about my dental. I can't put it any simpler the net. Just can't do it. But that's me, by the way, our whole. Is expected to be pursued by the Dallas Mavericks, and ultimately people are suing that's gonna stop probably four years, one hundred million dollars. He's looking for more than one hundred ten I don't know if he's going to get that. But the likelihood is that he may end up in Dallas Kimball walk go end up in Boston. Kadian car. Ego end up in Brooklyn, the Knicks Endo we're close to nothing if not nothing literally. And the clippers we don't know what was going to do in terms of Toronto or the clippers. And I personally believe as an aside. That the ngelo Russell to the lake is would not be a bad deal for them at all. Did the ngelo Russell back in the Lakers uniform? Although he's still prone to stupidity from Tom. Tom. Trying to put them weed in a liquid bottle when airport the first thing they don't tell you to get rid of what they're going to check as liquid bottle. Bottom line is. LA after domino out swaggie p was. Vigeo Iggy azalea. Out his look at it, and I'm like, you know all of that's the past. Pursuing the championship with abroad, and ADA teammate. I think the ngelo Russell will be fun. If you can't get a Kimball walk all career oven, I don't mind going that route, if I'm the Los Angeles Lakers. That's basically everything going on right now. And we'll see what happens as this week in closes in on us. Let's go to Michael ally. Stephen, what's up? How you doing? All right. Speak up. Go ahead. Listen, man, the Knicks are making a great choice by just, you know, sitting impact and letting everything rock because I'll tell you the mixed got some talent that people don't know about Steve while no about, like what like Dennis Smith junior. He hasn't really gotten a chance to play last year. It was supposed to be his coming out party after injury. And what happens is Luca. Danni, comes and takes spot. But which is ballot you know, you know all star type of players, they cannot point guard, of course. Listen, Stephen gotta give these next chance. I think they're gonna put a product out there that is gonna make the playoffs. And I know that that's not good. I've been watching the Knicks. Did you did you just say that the New York Knicks the postseasons that would you even they Stephen? Listen. I'll make a deal what they make the playoffs. You give me a job. I don't want for free. I'm telling you, they're gonna make the playoffs. I have a great offer talent. Even I have I don't have a job to give them not an NBA team. But I, I. I'll put up put your name in the half or them job on a basketball team. If you make the next make the playoffs because that's the super something big if they don't get Kadian kyri. That's super stuff the real big. That's really step it out on a limb nam tell you that right now the important, I don't understand why people keep talking about curry, and they talk about Angelo Russell better than him. Head and shoulders on. Hold on hold it. You just said the Angelo Russell's better than Kyrie Irving, eighty one games. He plays. Holdover. Holdover. My man, this is when people get adult on. I'm wanting you before I do it. When I ask you a question answer, my question I. You just said the Angelo Russell's better than Kyrie Irving haddish shoulders. Have you call back. You call back another. You call back another day. I'll put you on ban. You from show banned from today show. Kobe later de ngelo Russell better than Kerry. And that's what this man, just hypocritically the ngelo Russell is better than Kyrie Irving. Okay. All right. And then, they'd say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening to even his show. ESPN radio ESPN is by the way, when you're hiring, you don't wanna waste time. So dozens of rela resumes. Do you want an efficient way to get to a short list of qualified candidates? That's why you need indeed dot com post a job. And it's set a screen of questions, based on your job requirements. The zero qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard this why three million businesses use indeed for hiring post job today. Indeed dot com slash Hiatt. Search for greatness, search indeed. Top of hour. Number two. Frank Sola will be on with yours truly right? Here was Stephen is radio is. Guess what? You're in the middle of Stephen swift show podcast. Dammit Smith show. The radio been news coming to you live from above the Hannigan river decade to your seventeen plus seats to a game. Download the vivid seats app into promo code champion. Check out to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just any seat. Get a vivid seat. Look equal I'm an equal opportunity. God. Personally speaking, I generally, like Steve mills. I, I love me some Scott Perry. He and I go back a very, very long ways and I have mad respect for David physio. Now that I think Dave physio should be the coach of the Knicks, no. But that was only had nothing to do a basketball. I thought more Jackson should have been the first selection because I thought the state of the New York Knicks was so bad that you needed a New York connection that could galvanize the fan base and convent's, folks. To support the New York Knicks because one of our very own was coaching the franchise and was going to be the face and a spokesman because we know that mills and Perry going to operate in the dock they can operate behind the scenes doing their thing. The person's gonna be front and center, talking on behalf of the New York Knicks every day is more Jackson. You see David phys Dale during the season pre and post game for the necks, whereas more Jackson, you see all year long because you're talking about a man of product of a park in queens started saying Jones, rookie of the year with the New York, Knicks Queens, New York native. That's what you talking about. But I got mad respect in love for David phys deal. I believe in this coaching ability. And if you wasn't gonna have more Jackson, he was my second choice. But when I think about this is not just about Dolan also about statements. What does this president amounts daughter, no president of the New York Knicks? He's been around now. Nobody gets absorbed for me by me when it comes to the Knicks, nobody. Steve mills. And I love Scott Perry. But in all fairness, we can't just be about talking about Dolan. Can't escape the fact that Dolan has critics. Nobody gets a pass. New York native. It's true and end up with nothing come this Sunday after trading. Kristaps. Porzingis. Nothing. Nothing nothing nothing. Brad, damon. You can't have the New York Knicks and nothing and Annette's ended told match superstars. The clippers the Lakers town. New York is concerned this ain't been the New York Mets the seventy. Which means that Brooklyn could be the team of the future in New York. Lord have mercy. Frank also up next.

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